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Dec. 28, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Jim Hanson LIVE: Fixing the Party for the New Year

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	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, I am tickled pink to be sitting in Dr. G's chair for some America First radio while he gets a well-earned sabbatical.
	So, Merry Post-Christmas, Merry Pre-Happy New Year, ho ho ho, whatever.
	All right, everybody's all disjointed right now, and I think that's helping with the feeling that the whole country is falling apart.
	I don't think it's the case that we're going to crash and burn, but it's hard not to wonder.
	And I think one of the funniest things I saw recently was Medvedev.
	Putin's little puppet, hand puppet, who says whatever he tells him to say, put out a Twitter thread of predictions for what's going to happen, one of which was the U.S.
	falling into a civil war and our currency being taken over and all kinds of other stuff.
	And I just think it's comical at this point that someone who at one point was The head of Russia is making jokes about that on Twitter.
	So don't take anything too seriously, might be my real advice, because as bad as things are, we have recovered from worse.
	So, let's get to the recovering from worse part.
	We have a problem.
	And I think for the country, the problem is the woke left and their fundamental transformation of our great republic into a communist craphole.
	They're succeeding.
	They've been at it for a long time.
	Decades.
	It's a generational game for them.
	And they've been doing exceptionally well.
	We have not.
	Our team has sucked like a turbo Dyson.
	And I think that's something that we need to change.
	So I want to talk about one of the few changes we can make.
	Because like many of you, I had high hopes for the election last November.
	And those were dashed.
	You know, part of it, I think, was I guess we got hyped into believing that things were different than they are.
	I don't think you can poll the American public in any meaningful way now.
	And overall, even though we got a lot of votes in some places, we didn't get them where we needed them.
	And that's called losing.
	And normally, when you lose, there are consequences.
	Normally, the losing team, especially if they've been losing for a long time, will change their leadership because who's in charge?
	Who's leading the lose?
	And in our case, we being the political right, I don't like to be a Republican, but I am definitely an anti-Democrat, so I am by lack of another option forced to interact with the Republican Party, the GOP.
	And I don't like them.
	I don't think they've done a good job.
	I think that's demonstrably true.
	They're awful.
	And yet, what do we have?
	We have crushing losses again, and we have Mitch McConnell in charge in the Senate.
	We're quite likely to have Kevin McCarthy back as Speaker of the House, and whether that—if by some strange Hail Mary pass, Scalise or Biggs or somebody else gets the nod, I'll be happy.
	But McCarthy is quite likely to be the guy, and we've got to accept that and do what we can with it.
	But we've got one place where I think we can actually move a complete loser out of a position of power, and that is Ronald McDaniel as head of the Republican National Committee.
	She's awful.
	She's done nothing right.
	She's won nothing that was her responsibility.
	The things that were her responsibility have been awful.
	And yet, as of a couple weeks ago, she was bragging that out of the 168 Republican chair people who vote on that, she had 100 votes to stay.
	Now you can ask yourself why, if she sucks that bad and is such a complete unmitigated loser, she's got those votes.
	And it's a simple answer.
	It's money.
	It's money.
	She runs a billion dollar plus enterprise and distributing those spoils, a lot of which come from you and people like you.
	Although at this point, until change comes, I hope you're not donating to the GOP.
	But she controls the money and all those people are bought in the same way Mitch McConnell bought the 18 rhinos who voted him back into power and who voted for that omnibus.
	The omnibus was the payoff.
	They were the recipients.
	Same thing's happening.
	I'm not saying there's direct quid pro quo, so don't sue me, you pathetic excuse for a leader.
	But what I'm saying is the people in those positions know that she's been paying them.
	And if Harmeet Dhillon, who is the alternative, comes in, they may lose their payday.
	So I want to encourage all of you to do one thing.
	Go to the website, hireharmeet.com.
	Find out where the contact information is for your state reps who go ahead and do the voting for GOP chair.
	And tell him you want Harmeet.
	Tell him you want someone who is dedicated to winning, not whose brand is losing.
	Ronna McDaniel must go for us to have a chance.
	So go to hire Harmeet.
	Find out who that is and send them a nice message.
	Don't threaten them.
	Don't call them names.
	You can say that to yourself as you're typing a nice email and say, here's the deal.
	We believe in winning, not losing.
	Please do not put the loser who has helped Put us in this position of subservience to the Democrats and the woke left back in charge to lose potentially one of the most important presidential elections that we've had in a long time.
	Trump gave us a reprieve by winning and appointing three Supreme Court justices or we'd probably have lost the republic already.
	Now, we can't afford four more years of Democrats printing and spending money like it's going out of style.
	We can't afford the judges, the diversity operations they're running to go ahead and put people in positions who do not believe that everyone should be hired based on merit.
	All the things they're doing, four more years of that is intolerable.
	Harmeet's done a lot.
	Now, one thing people say about her, and I've seen a lot of people doing this, and it's one of the left's attacks on her, is that she's been paid by the GOP.
	Good!
	One of the few people who's actually done some good things as far as working to get our elections fixed, to get the things that the left has done to hamstring us unhamstrung, has been her law firm, Dillon Law.
	She's got some good people working for her.
	They know what they're doing.
	So the fact that she has gotten some contracts from the RNC is not a bad thing.
	She should be the one in charge of all of them so that more money gets spent on things that actually work rather than just rewarding the idiot cousins of country club Republicans who are the usual consultant class.
	They've done nothing but fail.
	And if we're going to win, if we're going to take this country back, if we're going to stop that fundamental transformation, we have to do something now.
	So I'm asking you to do that.
	Just do that one thing.
	And it won't take long.
	Be nice.
	You can be forceful.
	I mean, come on.
	We have a right to be righteously indignant.
	But in order for the right to become ascendant, we have to have competent leadership.
	I believe she is the one to do it.
	She certainly, Ronna McDaniel, is not the one.
	Of that we can have no doubt.
	So let's replace her.
	Let's put someone in.
	And the nice thing about Harmeet is she will sweep in a bunch of people who actually have the fighting spirit that our party, our team, needs.
	And we have been sorely lacking that.
	The people in charge have been way too comfortable with losing with dignity.
	And there is no dignity in losing.
	Show me the first loser and I'll show you a loser.
	So there can be no acceptance of that.
	Has to go.
	Rana out.
	Hire Harmeet.
	And let's at least have a chance.
	Let's make sure that that money, and regardless of how we can say don't contribute, still the bulk of the money that's going to be spent in a Hopefully coherent way will be done by the RNC.
	So let's get someone in who shares our fighting spirit, wants to win, wants America first.
	That would be Harmey Dillon.
	Hire Harmey.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	That is my spiel for the person I want as GOP chair.
	We got a lot of fun.
	We got Julie Kelly coming up next.
	We'll have Darren Beatty, John Schweppe.
	It's going to be a great show.
	We'll be back after the break.
	All right.
	I'm in now.
	I'm in.
	There we go.
	Alright, and hello Rumblers, all 900 of you.
	Welcome.
	Do you want me to hold off on the phones?
	Um, yeah.
	Remind me, though, at the end of Julie's segment to tee it up.
	Alright, are you doing her for one or two?
	Um, if she can do two.
	She can do two, yeah.
	Yeah, let's do two.
	Is it time for the Rumble Chat Contribution PSA?
	Yeah, okay, it's called Rumble Chat Rock and Roll Fans, or whatever you are.
	Let's have some ideas.
	I like to get some ideas in the Rumble Chat for a segment during the third hour, the 5 o'clock Eastern hour.
	You guys can pick anything.
	Throw it out there in the Rumble Chat.
	Eric will go ahead and, you know, roll through those, and we'll pick the three most entertaining ones, put them on a Twitter poll, our two, and whatever wins, wins, and I will do a freeform rant on that for you guys.
	And I think it's fair, because we got our own thing.
	You know, the radio thing is cool.
	We love the radio, but the rumble chat's real.
	You know, we're right here.
	It's us.
	See?
	We're right here.
	I see you.
	Like Avatar 2.
	All right.
	Hey, hey.
	Mics are on.
	Julie Kelly.
	EJ, I'm sorry, I'm trying to get my dogs outside.
	Constant battle.
	That seems wise.
	I don't think anybody can claim their dogs are that well behaved.
	Hey Julie, I am well.
	How about you?
	Good holidays?
	Very good.
	How about you guys?
	Yeah, did you stay home?
	We were in Florida.
	Florida!
	See, I went down to St.
	Pete to see my parents, which was nice.
	And then they actually got aced out of coming up because of the weather.
	Crazy.
	We got out of town luckily before the storms hit.
	So we're still here, which is great.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So now, do you have a new book?
	I do not.
	So I have my January 6th book, but I'm considering writing another one.
	Well, it's not like there hasn't been a bunch more.
	So we have that coverage, Asics.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm never going to... It's the long subtitle that kills me.
	January 6th and then a bunch of words that Jim can't remember by Julie Kelly.
	But the nice thing is... Don't worry, it's too long.
	Oh, right on.
	Well, I'd love to jump in with, obviously, your piece on Pelosi, because she can't be trusted, and let's throw a little shade her way.
	Okay.
	Which segment is longer of the next two?
	too.
	All right.
	But the super spread of just once, All right.
	I'm not going to do anything.
	We're going to talk to Julie the whole time because she's too important to waste on... Yeah, so remind me the segment after her, though, for sure.
	All right.
	All right.
	Rumblers, be creative. Rumblers, be
	creative. Rumblers, be creative. be creative.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo!
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Ah, right on, a little dancing to get us fired up.
	Well, hey, we're back doing America First Radio.
	I'm sitting in for Sebastian, and I am happy to be joined now by the greatest investigative journalist of our time, Julie Kelly, who writes for American Greatness.
	Did you just chuckle?
	You're humble enough that you probably don't believe that, but the rest of us do.
	So you just go ahead and smile and accept it.
	The first time someone called me an investigative journalist, I was like, wait, who are they talking about?
	Me?
	Well, that's just it, you know, and I'm not going to cut the so-called media any slack.
	They don't do that anymore.
	The only thing they're interested in is smearing people on our team.
	And you go ahead and dig in, look at the actual facts, and then go ahead and tell people what it's about.
	So I want to talk about some of the things you have dug up in your investigative journalisming.
	One of which was Nancy Pelosi seems to have a lot of things that she may have known and should have known and the other agencies were knowing and all of a sudden January 6th happens and it's oh my god Trump incited a riot or an insurrection they invented.
	Tell us a little bit about what Nancy may or may not have known.
	So this is in my latest article and it's based on two things.
	Number one, are the transcripts that are being gradually released by the January 6th Committee.
	Not so much what is contained in the report, because of course the bulk of the report targets Donald Trump.
	The only coverage of security quote-unquote failures, Jim, is buried in an appendix to the 845-page report.
	But at the same time, House Republicans Jim Jordan, Jim Banks, and a few others conducted their own investigation into security failures.
	And what that report reveals is that contrary to the narrative, contrary to what the American people have been told, there were in-depth, extensive communications between Nancy Pelosi's chief aides, including her chief of staff, Carrie McCullough, and her security chief, Paul Irving, who is the House Sergeant-at-Arms.
	Now, the House Sergeant-at-Arms and the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms are the security chiefs for Pelosi and then, at the time, Mitch McConnell.
	They were primarily responsible and are responsible for protecting the Capitol, the adjacent buildings, and the grounds.
	So, contrary to us being told that everyone was caught off guard at Donald Trump's speech and cited this insurrection, and they were unprepared, That simply is not supported by the evidence that we're getting out of these transcripts and out of this new House report.
	Now, I got a question for you.
	You're gleaning stuff from this extra report that the Republicans did, but the January 6th committee's investigation was a publicly funded operation by our Congress.
	Now, it was designed to be a smear operation, but is the end result that we will not have access to all of the stuff that they got?
	Are they able to actually hide some of that and the new Republican Congress can't put it out?
	They absolutely can.
	I believe that they can bury all of their investigative materials at Nancy Pelosi's office or adjacent committee under Democrat control, which of course it will be until next Wednesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday, the 3rd, whatever the 3rd, Tuesday.
	So, so look, they're obviously trying to withhold a lot of the materials that they have collected.
	What's interesting, Jim, is the material they did not collect.
	The name Christopher Wray, the FBI director in charge of the most powerful law enforcement agency, not just in the country, but seeded in Washington, D.C., name does not appear one time in this 845 page report.
	It is clear committee investigators did not sit down with Christopher Wray.
	Now they talked to Bill Barr, the attorney general, They talked to Jeffrey Rosen, the acting Attorney General, who is in that office on January 6th.
	But you don't talk to Chris Wray?
	Why is that?
	And so these transcripts are being kind of dribbled out.
	Benny Thompson, the chairman, said initially that all 1,000 plus transcripts would be released at the same time as the report.
	That's not the case.
	So there's a very good chance we won't see a lot of these transcripts that would be of interest to the American people, especially Jay Epps, who we know is interviewed by the committee, who is defended by the committee, and his transcript, contrary to promises, still has not been released as of today.
	That's weird.
	I mean, that really is shocking that a guy who is on video multiple times inciting an insurrection, literally the only person you can find who is publicly there telling people to storm the Capitol, and we're not going to hear what he has to say.
	I don't know what I would call this, but it sounds like something other people might call a cover-up.
	It's exactly a cover-up.
	What's really telling, and I have to give a shout out to Kyle Cheney at Politica, he posted this last night, is a transcript of Jamie Fleet.
	Jamie Fleet is not only on Nancy Pelosi's staff, but he's a shared staffer with the House Administrative Committee, and he told House Committee investigators that planning for January 6th started in the summer of 2020.
	And whoever was questioning Jamie Sleet said, well, wait a second.
	Why were you planning things in the summer of 2020?
	And he said, oh, because we saw what Trump was doing and we figured he would try to pull something if he lost the election.
	So what all of these transcripts, all of the reports are showing is constant communications between Pelosi's top staffers, U.S.
	Capitol Police, the Sergeant at Arms Who by the way, Kit Miss Jim, led three walkthroughs of the joint session on January 5th without one Republican present.
	Paul Irving, the House Sergeant at Arms, also did a walkthrough of the House evacuation plan.
	Now, why would you do that if you weren't planning for anything to happen?
	And 24 hours after Paul Irving leads this secret walkthrough of the evacuation plan with no Republicans present, Congress is evacuated because of the quote-unquote insurrection.
	All of this stinks as a cover-up.
	And that's why Republicans need to get records.
	They need to release the videos.
	They need to interrogate these people, including Nancy Pelosi and Christopher Wray, about exactly what went down on January 6th.
	Now she had her daughter in filming a documentary and they're not going to release that either.
	I mean, I can't imagine that there's not something interesting that was said in all the time her daughter's following her around during this most important event in the history of the Republic.
	But can the Republicans potentially subpoena that?
	Well, I mean, they could, because look, Nancy Pelosi's daughter, Alexander, just happened to be there that day on what no one was expecting to be anything special, right?
	Just this kind of pro forma ceremony of the county and the electoral college votes.
	So why was Alexander Pelosi a filmmaker?
	Why were so many filmmakers inside and outside the Capitol that day?
	If no one's expecting anything to happen, why did you have filmmakers from around the world there?
	Furthermore, she accompanied Congress, congressional leaders when they were evacuated to Fort Dix.
	Why is Alexandra Pelosi, does she have security clearance?
	Was she able to go to this secure location with top political leaders of the country?
	They need to ask her, too.
	Well, let's get her under oath and let's ask her those questions.
	We're talking with Julie Kelly, who writes at American Greatness and whose book, January 6th, and a very long subtitle, you can find at Amazon that gives this in depth.
	We'll be back with Julie because there's just more and more abuse of power by the feds we need to talk about.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	This is America First.
	Back after the break.
	All right.
	But I just didn't...
	It's stunning, I think, to just know that they're doing this in plain sight.
	And okay, we're asking questions, but that's, you know, there's not nearly enough people saying WTF world.
	Right.
	And I mean, I think that this House report is a really good start.
	But what they found out from Paul Irving's records is all of this communication, all of these secret meetings, that the committee certainly never presented in their televised performances and really gave short trips to in their overall report.
	But when you have Jamie Flood telling investigators, "Oh yeah, we started planning the summer of 2020." And not only that, Jim, you have testimony from Jeff Rosen, who is the acting attorney general.
	His public testimony during one of the hearings was all about how Donald Trump was trying to steal the election and install Jeffrey Clark as the Attorney General in the last few weeks.
	They did not grill him publicly about what he talked about in his transcript.
	And that is extensive communications between DOJ, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense.
	Days and almost a few weeks before January 6th about what the security, what the intelligence looked like, who was going to be the lead agency, which ended up being the Justice Department.
	Why Jeff Rosen called for about 500 elite FBI forces to Quantico the weekend before January 6th, including the hostage rescue team.
	Right.
	And when he was asked, well, what prompted you to do that?
	Oh, I was reading media reports.
	So I wanted to talk to, you know, I wanted to have people on the ready.
	It's crazy for them to pretend like this.
	And I guess, you know, we can make noise.
	And fortunately, there'll be some hearings.
	But unless we put somebody, you know, under subpoena, I don't think we're going to hear anything vaguely resembling the truth.
	And the nice thing is you have teed up.
	You know, the incoming Congress with all the right questions to ask.
	It's just a question now of getting the right people in the dock and then getting the media to cover that, because they're going to try and ignore that, too.
	Oh, the Republicans are holding sham hearings.
	I don't think so.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Well, that, as bad as it is, I want to, when we get back after the commercial ends, I want to jump to your Fednapping, because they're throwing those guys, you know, I mean, they're adding to the list of pardons that are going to have to be granted by the next Republican president with those absurd sentences they're giving these guys.
	Right, yeah.
	If I got sentenced for all of the crazy plots I've hatched while drinking beer around the fire with my friends, you know, I would be in a deep dark hole.
	Most of them were crimes though, you know, they weren't politically motivated.
	They were, you know, giant jewel heists we were going to do and stuff like that.
	It was not the Federal Reserve.
	I would like to note for all the federal agencies that are listening on Rumble, it was that we were gonna rob private individuals, and we didn't do it, as far as you know, because we didn't get caught.
	Well, do we know this?
	Yeah, it's like that scene in Stripes.
	Have you ever been convicted of a felony?
	Convicted?
	No.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, that's the same.
	Yeah, that's the same.
	All right.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, happy to be sitting in for Seb, and again, happy to have Julie Kelly back for another segment.
	She writes brilliantly at American Greatness, covering the events of January 6th, which happens to be the title of her book, which I recommend you get because there is no better reference for what happened.
	And how the Democrats turned that into the invented insurrection that, unfortunately, it is now branded as.
	Julie, bad as January 6th was, predating that was almost, I guess, I think you've called it the trial run for what they did, the Fednapping in Michigan, where overzealous FBI agents and informants and paid hacks, talked a bunch of drunken idiots into saying and doing some things that got them busted for a kidnapping plot of the governor that never happened.
	And now they're getting sentenced to 16 and 20 years.
	Is there something I'm missing here?
	No, it's just really another example of how far removed we are from any apolitical, objective system of justice in this country.
	And just for a quick backstory, there was no kidnapping plan.
	There was no domestic terror group.
	This was a plot that was concocted and engineered completely by the FBI using at least a dozen informants, at least three undercover agents, Numerous handling agencies working on multiple FBI field offices to put this plot together to bolster Christopher Wray's bogus claims that domestic violent extremists, especially those on the right, which none of these were right-wingers, were the biggest threat to the country.
	Now, of course, keep in mind this is at the same time we know the FBI was running informants into two militia groups tied to January 6th, the Oath Keepers, And the proud boys.
	This is what the FBI was doing in the year 2020 as, you know, huge cities and areas of this country were being burned to the ground by legitimate terrorists.
	At any rate, finally, this goes to trial in April of 2022.
	Four men facing federal conspiracy to kidnap charges.
	Two men had pleaded guilty.
	Stunning verdict.
	The jury comes back not a single conviction against any of the four men.
	Two men are acquitted outright in the April trial.
	The two men who got a mistrial of hung jury, Adam Fox and Barry Croft, were retried by the government thanks to the help of Judge Robert Juncker in Grand Rapids, who heavily tilted the scales in favor of the government during the second trial.
	Jury came back, convicted both of them.
	They were sentenced this week, Adam Fox, to 16 years in prison, Barry Cross sentenced to date to 19 and a half years in prison for a kidnapping plot that was put together by the government that never happened and never could have happened unless the FBI put it together.
	And there we have it.
	You know, not only during the same time period are they censoring their political enemies on all of the social media outlets, but they're inventing plots.
	They're trying to turn anyone who was even vaguely a Trump supporter into a domestic terrorist.
	And the whole thing ends up being the use of federal police power to attack political enemies.
	And I don't even know how something like that can happen in America.
	But we've seen it both in the Fed napping and in January 6, where incidentally, those informants who the FBI had in the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, did they testify at these trials?
	Did they offer evidence of any plans for an insurrection?
	No, well, the only trial that's happened so far is the Oath Keepers trial, and they had one of the main informants, who was the vice president of the Oath Keepers, who had been an informant for months.
	He suffered some cardiac event on the plane before he got to DC, so he was not able to testify.
	Didn't learn a lot about informants in the Oath Keepers trial, unfortunately.
	My sense is that the Proud Boys trial, which is now under the jury selection process, is underway right now.
	Since there were so many more informants, and I believe these defense attorneys are a little more aggressive than the ones in the Oath Keepers case, I believe that they are going to force, compel more testimony from the informants.
	And hopefully disclose to the public exactly what those informants were doing.
	Were they acting like they were in Whitmer?
	As provocateurs?
	As stitching groups together?
	Now that's something I want to hear, because I think the funny part is if those federal informants end up being defense witnesses, we're going to see and hear a lot more.
	Julie Kelly, author of January 6th, a book you should have.
	Read everything she does at American Greatness.
	She is putting out the information the mainstream media does not want you to see.
	I want to talk to America, all of the listeners out there.
	Call us at 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752, and let's talk about what it's like to live in a police state.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	This is America First, and we'll be back after the break.
	Hey, Julie, brilliant as always.
	Thank you so much and keep rocking.
	Thank you.
	Thanks so much.
	Have a great week.
	Happy New Year.
	Appreciate it.
	Thanks.
	You got this, Jim.
	In response to the Federal Reserve joke, SimplexQ responded, The Federal Reserve thing didn't work out so well for Fresno Bob.
	This is obscure.
	Oh, this hurts.
	It's, I think, you know, you have an idea, right?
	Like it's on the tip of your mind.
	It's tickling the back of my brain, but I got nothing.
	I got nothing.
	Escape from New York.
	Kurt Russell confirms Harry Dean Stanton.
	Kansas City, four years ago.
	You ran out on me.
	You, me, and Fresno Bob.
	Those are worth watching again.
	I love that one.
	That would be a good back-to-back.
	That, oh my goodness.
	You like Escape from L.A., right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Those are both hilarious.
	I take issue, well yeah, the thing is, I take issue with the horrible special effects in L.A.
	Like the CGI when he's underwater.
	It just, ugh.
	Sometimes you just gotta let that go.
	I suppose.
	Not everything can be Avatar 2.
	Him surfing alongside Peter Fonda and Steve Buscemi riding a sports car like all at once.
	That is pretty legendary.
	Alright, I'm going to be smart and I'm going to do my read this next time.
	I think we're going to do the super spreader.
	We've got a few interesting suggestions in chat.
	Some fun ones and some political ones.
	Alright.
	Want to hear them now or later?
	Yeah, hit me.
	Alrighty, we've got AR-15.
	Is it America's rifle?
	Ditching Mitch and McCarthy.
	Potentially, like, getting rid of them.
	Best pairings to make for a good steak.
	Oh, alright.
	Best Christmas movie and best sitcom of the 70s.
	Wow.
	Alright, those are all fun.
	Yeah, more on the fun side.
	I like it.
	It's nice when it's not a big, hectic news day.
	And people can stretch their legs.
	Alright, let's throw in some more.
	Alright.
	Dig deep, Rumble.
	Keep them coming, chat.
	But, yeah, that's a good start.
	I talked to my American Wagyu people today.
	I'm heading out Friday to pick up the big roast.
	It's painful, though.
	Stuff's not cheap.
	Oh, I'm bad.
	But is it worth it?
	We're gonna find out.
	I have not had American Wagyu, so... It is a thing.
	Now if I can just convince my wife to let me have my ranch, I'll raise my own.
	The other thing is I always figured I could take up cattle hunting.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	I like steak.
	Cows are, in my mind, probably one of the easier prey animals.
	You know, they're standing there by the side of the road.
	Yeah.
	Having a ranch, man, isn't that like the American dream right there?
	Kinda, and it's not, this predates Yellowstone, because my family actually had cattle when I was growing up.
	My grandfather was a John Deere dealer in Nebraska, and we had a couple farms that they had tenant farmers on, and one ranch where we had polled Hereford cattle.
	So that was a thing.
	I'm not some Kevin Costner fanboy who's like, oh, Yellowstone, I want a ranch.
	Yeah, no, not anymore.
	I liked ranches before it was cool.
	Exactly.
	When it was just painful, cold, hard work.
	And it's not like I'm going to do the actual work.
	I just want to own it.
	And kill anybody who tries to take it from you.
	Because you got a reason, right?
	You get to ride a horse.
	You get to shoot people.
	It's all good.
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	It's Jim Hansen.
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	I want to kind of expand on the two segments we did with Julie Kelly showed what is in my mind an intolerable stretch of police powers to be used as political tools.
	You know, and we've been talking about the deep state, about what is the permanent bureaucracy, the 95% plus of the permanent positions in our government that are filled by, if not all Democrat activists,
	Almost all Democrat supporters, and a large number of them in some very influential and dangerously powerful positions, are people who believe that America First, that you and I and Seb and Kurt Schlichter are dangerous menaces to this country who need to be shut down.
	And they are using every ounce of power that they have gathered to go ahead and take the very tools we give them to fight crime and terrorism and start reclassifying political disagreements into terror.
	It started early and it started long before the Biden administration.
	But when Biden's team came into office, they had a document ready to go talking about their plan for countering domestic extremism.
	And to them, domestic extremism is ideas they dislike.
	And as Julie mentioned, back in 2020, before they were elected, the deep state operatives were fanning the fires of calling all of us terrorists by the Fednapping invented plot.
	And then they got the invented insurrection out of a three-hour riot.
	And even in all 800, 900 pages of the report they have, there are no crimes.
	even anywhere close to sedition or insurrection or inciting violence in any way.
	What they've got is a bunch of people whose only conspiracy was talking to each other about things they believe were being done to steal an election from the voting populace, which is our right.
	They can't take that away from us.
	And yet, Now we've got people going to jail.
	I'm not excusing the violence on the day of January 6th, but that violence was not planned.
	That violence was not part of a conspiracy to commit a violent insurrection and overthrow the government.
	At the very worst, you could say it was a result of a riot that broke out when the security measures were vastly inadequate to the number of people that they knew were coming.
	Huh, I wonder why.
	We talked about that with Julie.
	They knew, all the federal agencies knew, that there was the possibility of a large gathering of angry people on January 6th.
	They knew it since before the election, since the summer of 2020.
	And what did they do with that information?
	Nothing to prepare.
	And I think at some level it seems obvious that they were happy with any kind of violence because that allowed them to invent the insurrection that they now have branded that to be.
	So they held their show trials in their kangaroo court All last year, you know, all this over the past six months with the January 6th Commission and their report claims all kinds of people were involved in something that no one was actually involved in.
	There was no plot to overthrow the government.
	There was zero conspiracy.
	There was zero sedition.
	There was just a lot of people who saw an election that was operated In fundamentally un-American ways, they used the COVID lockdowns and everything to put through a bunch of emergency measures that allowed them to send ballots all over the country with zero control.
	And when we started asking questions about that, legitimately, no one would answer them.
	None of the courts would answer them.
	Nobody wanted to touch that.
	And consequently, people felt disenfranchised.
	And I think at some level, it is legitimate for all those questions to have been asked.
	And it would have been better had no violence at all had January 6 just gone down, you know, as a regular political protest.
	But that doesn't always happen because when you've got people who believe they have been cheated, that's going to boil over.
	And no one was listening.
	No one was taking action.
	And consequently, you got the frustration caused the violence.
	But there has not been one shred of evidence absent even all of the efforts the feds have put into generating an insurrection or a conspiracy to commit one.
	No one has shown one ounce of evidence that there was prior planning to violently overthrow the government.
	And don't let any of the plea deals anyone's taken in this or any of the other stories you read change your mind about that because the evidence doesn't exist.
	So it's not like it's been hidden.
	What's been hidden is the exonerating evidence that they don't want you to see.
	And that's something that we're going to have to change.
	We have to rein in these out-of-control federal police powers and security apparatus and deep state operatives.
	We can't let them take away our legitimate constitutional right to dissent.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	We'll be back with more America first radio after the break.
	All right.
	We have to do that angel tree here.
	I have it in my hand.
	But thank you for the reminder because I am prone to forgetting my job here.
	Get busy flapping my gums over all the stuff I'm mad about.
	There's no shortage of stuff to be mad about these days.
	You know, the outrage meter is in permanently 11 status.
	When I saw that 16 years for the guy, like, come on, these guys were literally innocent.
	Like, give me a break.
	Yeah, I mean, bad enough that they're convicted, but then you're gonna throw the book at them.
	And I don't doubt that they talked a lot of smack.
	Sure.
	You know, I mean, because like I said, you get a bunch of guys, and this is northern Michigan, you know, it's cold, you're sitting around the fire, you're talking, you're drinking beer, and You know, words will be used out of context.
	And especially if you've got provocateurs in the midst, you know, sitting there telling you, hey man, we should be, I can't believe we're gonna let them take away our freedoms.
	And then boom, all of a sudden they're like, what if we did this?
	It's classic entrapment.
	It really is.
	A hundred percent.
	And I think, I guess it's going to be, you know, the next Republican president is going to have a busy pardon pen.
	That really should be.
	There needs to be a big list, and you gotta just walk in and do it first day.
	Just take the bite, and say, everyone in all of these Fed-induced situations is going to be released.
	Shoot, I would fully support having a whole bunch of the J6ers at the White House.
	Like, for formal ceremony, apologizing, reparations.
	Get them all in there, the guy who put his feet- And you gotta call it reparations, too.
	Oh, totally, yeah.
	The guy who put his feet on Pelosi's desk.
	I would even- I, if I was in charge of such- The shaman?
	I would bring the shaman in.
	You gotta bring the shaman in.
	I'd bring them all in.
	Yeah, I don't even know what I'm doing.
	He's just a crazy dude.
	They literally gave him a harsher sentence because he became a symbol of what happened, which, okay, what crime did he commit?
	Bad face paint.
	You know?
	Sanity.
	Cultural appropriation of a bison headdress.
	I did think it was funny people were accusing Avatar 2 of being cultural appropriation because they've got dreads.
	Right?
	Gotta love it.
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	Well, we were talking most of this hour about abuse of power, about the bad things the deep state and the security apparatus have been doing to their political enemies.
	And I think we just talked about the sentences that were given out to two of the Fed-napping guys who were caught for a crime they didn't commit, who were going to prison for 16 and 19 and a half years.
	I think, and I mentioned this during the break, I think the next Republican president needs to open day one with a pardon pen and a stack of pardons the size of that bill that Joe Biden was signing, that lobstrosity, and take all of the people who have been unfairly abused by our government
	and free them, and I think even going a step farther and in a way that will chafe the cones of a lot of the left-wing activists, call it reparations and pay them for the damage you've done to their lives and to their families.
	These people, too many of them, are in jail right now and more will be going to jail because of their political beliefs and the fact that that's something the woke left will not tolerate.
	Well, I call on the next Republican president to be prepared for anyone who did not commit violence against a law enforcement officer directly.
	All of those people should be freed, pardoned, and paid reparations.
	And that includes the shaman.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	You guys are going to get some news right now, then we will be back after the break with John Schweppe to talk about Twitter.
	Is it a news source?
	Two minutes.
	John, you there, buddy?
	I am, Jim.
	How you doing?
	I am well.
	Where are you visiting?
	I am at home with my parents in Illinois.
	Enjoying the zero degree temperatures over here.
	Nice!
	That is, I'm glad.
	It's like 56 here or something.
	It's nice.
	Oh good.
	I'm glad.
	Dude, I hate winter for that reason.
	Actually, that was like a big thing about moving to Virginia for me was like, oh nice, I get like one snow a year.
	Yeah, and which is enough.
	You know, you build your snowman, you play your game, you throw snowballs at the neighborhood kids.
	I'm from Green Bay, dude, so I did my time.
	Are you a Packers fan?
	I don't do much sports ball at all, but if I have to have a football team, I'm part owner of the Packers, so I'm contractually obligated.
	Yeah, it's cold up there.
	Oh dude, it's just brutal.
	I wanted to tee off a little bit about Elon calling Twitter the ultimate news source now and just get your thoughts on how he's disrupting, you know, the information space and I think in a good way, but let's find out.
	Yeah.
	Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool.
	The End
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, I am delighted to be sitting in Seb's chair.
	And I am also happy now to be joined by John Schweppe, who is the policy director for the American Priorities Project.
	Now, John, I want to pick your brains because—excuse me, the American Principles Project.
	I'm a little slow.
	But what I want to talk to you about that I hope will get correct is Elon has been calling Twitter now the ultimate news source.
	Obviously, he's a hype master.
	He's good at this.
	He's a Barnum and Bailey-esque kind of promoter.
	But I think he's got a point in saying that Twitter has always kind of been the journalist's playground.
	That's where they talk to each other.
	You know, it grew out of them talking to each other about their stories.
	And they always steal stuff from each other and ideas that percolate up on Twitter and then become pieces on the various news platforms.
	Is he in the midst of making that the actual place where people go to find the news?
	Well, I think he's taking it to a new level.
	Certainly, you know, those of us who were very involved in the 2016 campaign, you know, social media played a huge role in Trump overcoming all of this, you know, media bias and the institutional pressure against them.
	And that was because of the ability of people like me to communicate, to, you know, debunk media myths, to, you know, really be out there and get the word out about this stuff.
	And I think what's happened is that, you know, the left understood that they can't let that happen anymore because it was a huge boon for us.
	And so that's where this censorship push came from the last few years.
	And what Elon's doing now, I find it really interesting.
	Not only is he promoting free speech on Twitter, but he's also kind of democratizing Twitter and really putting everyone on a level playing field where, you know, if you want a blue check, You can buy one.
	Right.
	And the journalists hate this because they felt that they were in this esteemed special class where they had this checkmark and whatever they said was more important because they had that.
	And I think he's ultimately, you know, creating this digital public square where everyone's going to have the same say and it's going to be really interesting.
	You know, and I think that's back in 2015, 2016 was really when I first started doing anything on Twitter.
	And the amazing thing was you could speak truth to power.
	You could, if there was a New York Times article that came out and it was inaccurate, I could go ahead and take that article, link to it, tag the journalist in a tweet, And tell them what was wrong, and in a very large number of the times, shockingly, I'd get a response from them because they're very narcissistic.
	And I think that, like you said, was something that was used to our advantage at that point in time because they didn't know we could do that.
	They hadn't figured out that because it was a relatively democratic, meritocratic system, Yeah.
	And, you know, the other thing, and I think this has been kind of, I think, a cell phone of these guys.
	he was, they shut that down over the next four years.
	And by the time 2020 came around, we were no longer in the mix in the way we were.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, the other thing, and I think this has been kind of, I think, a cell phone of these guys they've owned themselves, is, you know, they really think that we care about their personal opinions about things.
	And one of the things, you know, I think journalists had more power when, you know, it was just somebody who, you know, Cronkite, somebody who you only knew when they were on the TV and that was it, or, you know, somebody who is writing, you know, Bernstein, all these guys.
	And now what's happened is you see the flaws of these people.
	You see their biases.
	You see how they feel the need to virtue signal on every other issue.
	And it really does kind of weaken their credibility and it puts them on the exact same level as everyone else.
	And they have a bad habit because they have such thin skin.
	You know, they don't like people picking at them.
	And that's how they ended up.
	Oh, how dare you say I'm wrong and provide evidence of my wrongness that people could see?
	Whereas before, if I put this out in the New York Times, you know, it is the unequivocal gospel truth and all will kowtow to it.
	And I think you're right.
	They hated both Having people question them, and they got the opportunity to show what bucket heads they really are, to their detriment.
	So now we've got a situation where, okay, Elon says, no, we're not going to play that anymore.
	The censorship that they put in between 2016 and 2020 has to go, and he's got most of it out.
	There's still visibility filters and some other things shutting down people who say things they don't like.
	But more or less, it's open season on ideas.
	Is this something that he can maintain?
	Is he going to get advertisers to come back if he's actually the place to be?
	Well, the business model is something we should still be really concerned about.
	And that's why, like, I, for example, subscribed to Twitter Blue.
	I really wanted to support what he was doing.
	I mean, I was happy to get the blue check, but really, I think he's doing something important.
	So, you know, I was comfortable doing that.
	But, you know, look, we know that the pressure is not going to stop.
	Right now we're kind of in a down period.
	There's not an election for a little while yet.
	And so I don't think that the pressure campaign is anywhere where it will be.
	Once Donald Trump rejoins the platform, and he will, once we're in the midst of a general election campaign season and everyone's pressuring for this, that's when you're going to see the BlackRocks and all these powerful actors really putting the pressure on.
	And he's going to have a tough time.
	I mean, taking it private hopefully will help with that.
	But, you know, the advertisers, all that stuff, we know it's going to be a lot of work.
	And so this is where I think it's really important for, you know, those of us who maybe don't think Elon is perfect to appreciate what he is trying to do and to continue to tout the importance of having free speech online.
	And at least now there is one place where that's happening.
	You know, because nothing's changed, to my knowledge, at Google or YouTube, you know, or Facebook or the rest of them.
	You know, they all still do what they want to do behind the scenes.
	And I think there is a level of fear, though, because the Twitter files, as a lot of people have pointed out, could just as easily be the Google files or the YouTube files or the Facebook files.
	They all did this.
	And the same people who they were censoring and colluding with in the government, and who they were colluding with amongst each other, all that's going to come out in investigations over the next year or so.
	So do you think this disease of free speech could spread a little bit to some of the other platforms?
	That's the hope.
	You know, I've talked to some insiders at Facebook and elsewhere.
	Um, and you know, I do know that there's going to be this pressure, right?
	Because if Twitter works, if the free speech platform works, um, you know, people are naturally going to gravitate there, right?
	And Facebook is already kind of a dying platform, but you're, you know, you're seeing people want to flock to Twitter because again, you can speak the truth, the power to there.
	Um, the other thing is that it's, it's a, just a different social network where Facebook's very insular Instagram, same thing.
	Um, but on Twitter, I really can't, like I could go right now.
	and quote tweet Maggie Haberman of the New York Times and say something kind of rude and mean.
	And there's like a decent chance she responds, right?
	Like that's not going to happen on these other platforms.
	And again, if you care about democracy, if you care about the free marketplace of ideas and being able to challenge bad ideas, that's great.
	And there's just nothing like it.
	Yeah, I was arguing with Jeffrey Wright, you know, who I loved in the Bond movies as the CIA guy.
	But he's an absolute screaming left-wing butthead.
	And I argue with him a lot.
	And I love the fact that that can happen, and I think it's healthy.
	You know, that's the thing that I think people forget is dissent and argument are important ways for ideas to be weighed.
	You know, you should have the best.
	I always want to find the most passionate and intelligent architect of ideas for the other side and take their ideas on and them personally, if possible.
	And I think having offered that opportunity back to us, I think Elon's got a chance of drawing people in.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, that's so good for the country.
	Just, you know, speaking to what you just said, I'm sure you've done this, but I know for me, I've quote tweeted, I think it was Michael Ian Black, who's kind of a, uh, you probably remember him, a comedian.
	And I remember I just dunked on him over something and he responded back in good faith.
	And then I was like, Oh, that was kind of mean.
	All right, well, let me like be friendly with him and actually have a conversation about this.
	And we did right.
	Like, and, and I think that's really important.
	And again, like, As we've really grown apart and where we can't even have these conversations with each other, if we have them and we realize, oh wait, this person is actually coming from a place of good faith, I think they're an idiot.
	But hey, at least I understand they're good people.
	I think that's how we get America back together.
	So Elon, I mean, ultimately when we look at his legacy, I know this is early, but we may end up looking at it and saying, wow, what Elon did actually helped heal this country and get us back in a sane direction.
	And here's the thing I worry about is we can't heal too quickly, you know, because we're still at a point now where we have such fundamental disagreements that we have to have the fights first, you know, and then we can make up later.
	So I want to hope that we don't end up in a situation where everyone wants to start singing kumbaya when we're not even going to the same church.
	We're not even in the same church.
	We're not even in the same universe of ideas with these people.
	So that's a concern I have.
	I was just going to say, wokeism became a thing in large part because it wasn't challenged in the public square.
	Almost all of these ideas are like sub-30%, sub-25%.
	It seems that sunlight is not good for it.
	It's like the vampire of political ideologies.
	who believe them and they weren't being challenged and there was no accountability, it was able to rise up.
	My hope is that if you have free speech, if you have accountability in elections, that movement's going to die.
	It seems that sunlight is not good for it.
	It's like the vampire of political ideologies.
	You got time for one more segment, dude?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, I want to ask you about Twitter products.
	We're talking with John Schweppe, director of Policy American Principles Project, and we'll be back after the break with more America First Radio.
	All right.
	Good stuff.
	Yeah, dude.
	Well, it's exciting to me because, I mean, dude, I actually had a sensitive filter over my account for almost a year.
	Mm-hmm.
	And I'd never posted anything that could legitimately be called sensitive, you know, but I made a lot of sensitive people very sad and Mass complaints and things like that, you know led to that Whatever decision was made obviously because I think 10,000 followers was the cutoff for elevation But it got elevated and they went ahead and literally grayed me out you know, and I just I couldn't believe it but
	I could believe it and now there's still the visibility filters and I'm hoping this appeals process comes out because I've been gaining followers and my reach is up probably 30-40% in the past couple of months.
	in the past couple of months, but not for, I've got what, 80,000, 80 some thousand, almost 80,000 followers.
	And the reach I get on that is not back to where it should be yet, so. - Right, right.
	And just a heads up, what I want to ask you about now is I want to figure out where he's going with Twitter as a business.
	Because I have an idea, and I think everything I've seen from him leans toward this, and obviously I think he's becoming a content platform.
	I think Twitter was the journalist's chat room, and then everybody else piled in, and the idea was this was where you had discussions about things that were elsewhere.
	And the problem with that is you don't get paid for content that's elsewhere.
	Right, right.
	So I want to talk a little bit about that and then about the rest of the idea that I couldn't be happier that at least things are disrupted.
	Because disruption and change, I'm a big fan of disruptive change.
	And so to me, this is nothing but opportunity.
	Yeah, no, I think it's good for tech, too, if you're like a VC.
	I mean, I know it's been an awful year, but I think having some of this broken up, yeah, it'll be really interesting.
	And you're right, he has really high ambitions here.
	Yeah, well, I mean, come on.
	Everybody's like, oh, you bought it to kill it.
	Dude, he didn't drop $44 billion on a whim, you know?
	Right.
	I mean, and everybody loves to play.
	He loves to play a caricature of himself.
	You know, I mean, he is Elon Musk on Twitter.
	is a provocateur who is baiting people, and everybody buys it on both sides, you know?
	I mean, he's not a savage fighter for free speech, and he's not a lunatic billionaire who's just willing to burn $44 billion to troll people.
	Although the fact that he keeps posting memes now is just frickin' hilarious, man.
	Spicy memes, too.
	Not just memes.
	He's on the spicy stuff, man.
	He's going for it.
	No, but I do think I think the open book thing is a act a little bit.
	I really do.
	I think there's a lot of things he is not telling us about his plan.
	I concur wholeheartedly.
	So I want to I want to front him out and see if we can get ahead of it and predict what I think he's going to do because it would be crazy not to do this.
	If you actually want to make money with Twitter.
	Yeah.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	I am happy to be sitting in for Dr. G, and I'm happy to have John Schweppe back, policy director for American Principles Project, because we're figuring out what Elon's doing with Twitter.
	And aside from the whole free speech game and all the rest of it, he is obviously having a lot of fun knocking over all the conference tables, stealing people's rice bowls, all the things you do when you're doing disruptive change.
	And I think people on both sides are taking him at face value.
	And he's a deeper player than that.
	You know, I think there is an element of it's fun to be the world's first or second richest man.
	I can do what I want.
	But he didn't spend $44 billion to be the greatest internet troll.
	And he's not going to destroy this company.
	And he's also not the world's greatest advocate of free speech.
	He's going to build a business.
	And I want to run by what I think he's doing.
	Twitter used to be a chat room.
	Twitter was where journalists and other people would talk about their pieces that were published at other places.
	Their pieces at the New York Times, Washington Post, you know, on their TV network or whatever.
	Well, Twitter doesn't get paid for that.
	Twitter gets paid for what people do at Twitter.
	And I believe that Elon is changing Twitter from that pure discussion format into a content platform.
	He's already said they're going to increase the size of video.
	He's already talked about people moving their YouTube catalogs over to Twitter.
	I think it's going to be a place.
	He's talked about increasing to like 4,000 characters, the size of things you can post.
	So I think he's going to turn it into a place where Twitter is where you stay, not where you talk about things you're doing elsewhere.
	Does that make sense?
	Yeah, I actually think, you know, he's kind of telegraphed this subtly.
	But you've seen it with, you know, during the World Cup, Elon was constantly talking about how Twitter was outperforming its previous metrics on this, that everyone was coming there.
	He's been teasing, he had an interaction with a well-known YouTuber, MrBeast, And was talking about how we want you YouTubers to be on our platform and to be creating content here.
	You know, even something like Substack, you know, Substack has been wildly successful, but Twitter could easily recreate that and do the exact same thing on their platform.
	So this is a guy, again, you look at his previous businesses, you know, SpaceX, Tesla, he's been wildly successful, but he thinks enormously big.
	He is not interested in like, let's have a nice, nice little business.
	Twitter for the longest time was kind of the dumb tech company.
	I mean, there are all these huge big tech companies, and Twitter was the worst run, probably with least taking advantage of the opportunity in front of it.
	And I think he's going to come in and build this into, frankly, the size of Google, the size of Amazon, one of these companies.
	And what he did, he came in and he looked around and he saw 7,800 employees, 5,000 of which were doing woke activism, and 2,500 of which were running a tech company.
	And what he did is he said, okay, all of the things we talked about, you know, changing it to video, adding a substack function, monetizing content, all of the things you can do there.
	You know, he needs to take Twitter spaces, which is a video conferencing thing, and make that fully, or audio conferencing, make that fully video interactive.
	Those are not complex technical issues.
	That's known art.
	You know, those are things other people have done there In a lot of cases, there's open source software that they can just adapt and brand as Twitter's game.
	And now they've got the one thing everybody wants.
	They've got all the influential people talking smack in the same place.
	If the content and the people are there talking about it, who's making money?
	Elon Musk!
	Right.
	Well, and the thing is Twitter already has built in the fact that everyone thinks that Twitter is where you go for instant reactions, instant news.
	That's long been the case, but, you know, God forbid.
	But if there was a shooting and you heard about it and you're like, OK, I want to find out the details of this, you go to Twitter.
	You don't go to Google because that's delayed, right?
	It's a couple hours back.
	You certainly don't go to Facebook anymore.
	And so that's what it is.
	And so if he can build this into a constant, you know, where there's all this content, where you're getting live streams or you're getting this, I think it could be wildly successful.
	And something that literally everyone uses, where right now Twitter is still something that, you know, disproportionately is used by, you know, laptop class elite types.
	But I think there could be a point in time where Twitter is used regularly by ordinary people who might not even have that much of an interest in news or politics.
	But you hit on it.
	It's that instant availability of information that you can weigh and...
	And have some idea of the accuracy of.
	And I think that's where, like you said, you mentioned a shooting incident.
	I go immediately to Twitter, I put up the hashtags of whatever we know, and then I look at the local people who are putting stuff out.
	It's just essentially running a large-scale local news operation that's crowdsourced.
	And I think that's where you're always going to be able to beat because the big news organizations are going to wait until they've got five pieces of confirming evidence before they put anything out.
	People on Twitter can just throw it up there and then you can evaluate it for yourself.
	And I think that's going to enable the kind of thing you talked about, whether it's weather, whether it's disasters, whether it's current events, sports, all those things happen in real time.
	And once regular people figure out that all they got to do is click the button, put in a hashtag, and you've got a news feed that you can tailor, I think that will actually take off.
	And the hype man thing you brought up earlier.
	This is the thing.
	Jack Dorsey couldn't do it, right?
	Like, I mean, he was just far too interested in, you know, going on nature walks and things like that.
	Hallucinogens.
	That's a nicer way to put it.
	You know, Elon is, this is what he's made for.
	And, you know, ultimately, if he can find ways to combine this with his other businesses, you know, maybe, you know, it can be wildly successful.
	So that's where, you know, all of the people who are bearish on it, you're probably seeing it on Twitter right now.
	People say, oh, Tesla's stock is dropped dramatically, like Elon's in trouble.
	This guy is smarter than all of us put together.
	So, like, you know, I think he's probably got a plan.
	Yeah, I think he does an awful lot.
	And Trump's another, you know, promoter, another Barnum & Bailey, P.T.
	Barnum kind of guy, where if you are listening to the words coming out of the megaphone, you are one of the rubes.
	So figure out what he's standing in front of and what's behind what he's standing in front of, and then look at what he's trying to get you to do.
	And right now, Elon wants to be underestimated, By the left and overestimated by the right.
	And then he's still his his big challenge is still coming back to advertisers because this is not going to be subscription only.
	He's going to need to have advertisers on there.
	And I think that's the last big challenge.
	And that's where ultimately I think if he can successfully get what I would say are more like the populist influencers people that ordinary people like but aren't corporate.
	So Mr. Beast is a good example of the most successful YouTuber of all time.
	If people like that are coming to Twitter, if all the content is being pushed to Twitter, the corporations are going to have to come if they want to sell their products.
	That's ultimately where it's going to be.
	Once he has the leverage, which I think he'll end up getting, these guys aren't going to be able to do their woke stuff because they have to advertise.
	They have to reach people to have their own profit.
	And there's too many of them.
	You can say right now the ones who get pushed off the other platforms have to go to Twitter because it's the only free speech place.
	But as we discussed earlier, I think that pressure is going to push to the other platforms.
	And if Elon's the first adapter and he pays those people, well, guess what?
	He'll have them and the others will have to fight for him.
	Well, hey, John Schweppe, Director of Policy for the American Principles Project.
	Keep an eye on this because I like your view on how all of this is shaping out because we may end up with an information space.
	Thanks for being on.
	Thanks so much.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	Dr. G's getting some rest and relaxation, but we're not.
	We're going to be back after the break.
	If you want to opine on any of this, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	333-33-GORCA. 833-334-6752.
	More after the commercials.
	Nice back on.
	Amen.
	Well, the poll's not done yet, but I think it's pretty clear which one's going to win here.
	What are we doing?
	Ditching Mitch and McCarthy with 74%.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The other two are way... I was kind of hoping to hear the stakes.
	You know, but okay, I'll throw some stake in.
	Just for sauce.
	Yeah, just for the sauce.
	There, I see what you did there.
	Yeah, we need to talk about that anyhow.
	Oh yeah.
	Can't leave the argument from yesterday unresolved.
	What was the argument yesterday?
	Well, the Kirchlichter thing.
	It was hinted at, and now it's kind of a no.
	Consider this a spiritual successor, then.
	Okay.
	I can live with that.
	Callers are not wanting to play, huh?
	If you give them a topic or two, they'll call.
	Is that what I need to do?
	- Yeah. - Make this complicated.
	I gotta come up with ideas.
	Again, the lying congressman-elect is pretty funny, but I guess there's a reluctance to talk about that.
	How did that not come out in the race?
	I don't know what district he's in, but did they run?
	New York 3.
	New York, so they had to run somebody.
	I mean, they're machine.
	They make stuff up, usually.
	They didn't have to make anything up about him.
	You Google his name, and it would have said, this guy is an inveterate liar.
	What the heck?
	It's actually a D plus two C. Okay, that's interesting.
	Oh, that's bad for a special election.
	Yeah.
	I still, yeah, I never heard of this guy before until suddenly, oh, this guy lied about literally every detail, every possible detail.
	My name's not even Santa.
	I made that up.
	His high school, his college, his race, his grandparents.
	Did he really?
	He claimed he was Jewish, and it turns out, no, his grandparents were Brazilian.
	What do you mean Jewish?
	It's kind of sketchy.
	There's rules about that.
	But his explanation on Tulsi Gabbard, he's like, oh, I didn't say I'm a Jew, I'm Jew-ish.
	Like, using the I-S-H.
	That's so stupid.
	That's horrible.
	One of my best friends from high school is Jewish, and you become Jewish through your mother, right?
	Well, his mom converted to Evangelical Christianity.
	So I was asking, do you lose your card?
	Does the tribe pull your card if your mom becomes a Christian?
	I don't know, man.
	It's questions we should have answers for.
	There must be answers.
	Or not.
	Or it was just something fun to jerk his chain about.
	Yeah.
	But literally everything, Goldman Sachs, like, ugh.
	I just can't.
	And yeah, I'm curious to see where this goes, like if anyone, if like the GOP is gonna deal with him or censure him or whatever, or if they're just gonna let it slide.
	I think McCarthy is going to need him to be sworn in and vote for him.
	And then after that, who knows?
	You know, we're going to find out the wheels of American political justice.
	Examples like Elizabeth Warren or Dick Blumenthal, like they all lied about one thing.
	They didn't lie about like a million things.
	Right.
	I mean.
	I mean. I mean. I mean. I mean. I mean. I mean. I mean. I mean. I mean. I mean.
	It's Jim Hansen.
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	Okay, I want to ask one more time, if anybody wants to answer the question, is Elon a con man or the free speech savior we need, give me a call, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	I have mixed thoughts on it.
	Gorka, 833-334-6752.
	I have mixed thoughts on it.
	I think he's doing something that needed desperately to be done and that pretty much no one else could do.
	Who else had $44 billion that he could go ahead and chuck into a wild-eyed venture for a failing tech company?
	And at the time, it was really the only failing tech company.
	Now, they were limping along.
	They had some revenue.
	They had a few things going.
	But overall, their headcount was too big.
	Their business model was a mess.
	And as we mentioned before, 7,800 employees, over two-thirds of which weren't doing tech company work, they were doing woke evangelical work.
	And that was something that was obviously, you know, well thought of in the previous regime, but wasn't going to be useful to Twitter as a business.
	So I think when Elon came in, he said, I'm buying this because I believe free speech is important.
	I think he also bought it and mostly bought it because it is the platform, it is the place for the most important discussions we're having right now.
	There's no place else that is interactive where people can discuss things, where the most powerful people of the world opine.
	You know, they could do an interview on a TV show, but that's always canned, you know, and there's rarely does anyone ever give anyone else a hard time, although it was awful fun watching Tulsi Gabbard go ahead and jab that lying moron Santos, the New York Republican who lied about, I guess, as far as we know, everything.
	But rarely do you get that kind of confrontational interview.
	So Twitter was a perfect platform for that.
	Elon at some level saw that, but he saw that it had been hijacked by the woke left and that they couldn't do, you know, no one could actually have the conversations they had when it first started.
	And I think that's something that we're now returning to.
	The opportunity to speak truth to power, to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted, and to harass and mock people.
	You know, as John Schweppe mentioned, one of the reasons wokeness was able to propagate itself was because no one was challenging it publicly.
	You know, it was accepted by all of the people in the mainstream media and in influential positions in public policy.
	So now that it can actually be shown to be the absurd, insane, leftist, communist, perverted.
	I mean, it's just it's a it's a deranged ideology that if you want to look at it the surface level, OK, there's there's something there.
	Oh, we should we should be nice.
	We should be careful.
	We should be trying not to hurt people's feelings.
	OK, at some level, of course, that's being a decent human being.
	But you can't build a society and culture on the idea that no one should ever be offended.
	Everything's equal and nothing is wrong.
	All right, that's just never going to fly.
	So we'll be back after the break.
	We got some calls.
	I think we'll be able to talk to some folks after that.
	Again, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	And we can talk about whatever you want.
	But I'd like to talk about Elon, crazy Congress people, firing the Republican leadership, whatever you want.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	This is America First Radio.
	And we'll be back with some spicy talk after the break.
	Isn't that a perfect pocket square I got?
	it's very good yeah It's totally fake.
	It matches the shirt.
	I know it does, I looked at that, but I've actually got a tie that's almost that exact thing, but I'm sick of wearing ties.
	No, it's just, it's sewn in there.
	Trying to figure out how to do like an actual pocket square like I was at my sister's wedding was the most difficult thing ever.
	Just go to YouTube!
	We did that!
	We were watching a YouTube tutorial and it's so complicated because they're doing it like they're showing it to you from the front but you're technically doing it with it facing you so you gotta like in your mind like reverse their movements.
	You gotta put a laptop in front of a mirror and stand in front of the mirror and then you're doing it with them.
	That's how I did when I first was tying bow ties.
	Oh, okay.
	I did that.
	I actually set the laptop and then looked in a mirror and then did it along with them.
	I guess Jeff's done this whole talk radio thing.
	You just tell people what to talk about and they call.
	Weird.
	Anytime I was listening to something like that, I was always just waiting till the first time someone would shut up so I could ask a question.
	That's probably why I'm sitting in this chair now, because I wouldn't shut up.
	Huh.
	Genuine Florida oranges.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	We, uh, when we drove down to St.
	Pete, he got a cut across the middle of the state through orange country.
	You drove from Virginia to St.
	Pete?
	Yeah, we do quite a bit.
	It's like 14 hours.
	Oh my goodness.
	About to say.
	Well, we, uh, we got a Sprinter van, you know, that's the game.
	Oh, okay.
	So we bought it, uh, we did two laps of the country last year.
	Like 8,000 miles one time and 7,000 the other and just Baja around.
	It's fun.
	The nice thing about being in a van on the road is you can't feel like you're supposed to be doing something else because you can't.
	You know, so all my entire chore list of things I'm supposed to be doing and I'm not doing fades into insignificance because, oh, my job is to not crash.
	You know, and scheme global domination as I'm riding down the road, rockin' hard.
	Put on like epic music as you plan world domination.
	Oh yeah, trust me, it's windshield time.
	My best friend's buddy, he ran a landscaping business, and he said the greatest time of day was in North Carolina, when it was stupid hot.
	The best time of the day was always windshield time, driving between jobs.
	Because you can't do anything else.
	You're not working, busting your butt, sweating.
	The air conditioning's on.
	And you just look out the windshield and enjoy the world.
	So yeah, I do my best scheming.
	What's your go-to road trip album?
	I would have to say my scheming global domination album is Undertow by Tool.
	Okay.
	So yeah, if I ever actually launch and run the black flag up... Hold on, can you see the call board or do you want me to send you a screenshot?
	I can, it's... Wow!
	Okay.
	Rock and roll, we got everybody.
	Lit up!
	I can see the call in board and we're gonna have some fun now.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	All right.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Yes it is, Jim Hansen, and now it is time for the American First audience to tell us what they think.
	We're going to go first to Mike, Mikey Mike, in Detroit, Rock City.
	What you got for me, brother?
	Oh yeah, you know, I just, you know, years ago I read an article that Facebook was going to hire 25,000 fact-checkers, and it just, you know, blew my mind.
	I thought, what is a fact-checker, you know?
	And then you think, what's hate speech?
	What's politically incorrect?
	It's whatever they say it is, you know, and it's Orwellian.
	You know, there's a quote from Orwell that is like, don't you see that the whole aim of newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?
	In the end, we shall make thought crime literally impossible because there will be no words in which to express it.
	And, you know, they're defining what the meaning of words and what language is.
	It's absolutely Orwellian, you know, what they're trying to do.
	You know, and people say that that gets overused, but they're wrong.
	They're using it as a handbook.
	It's worth everybody, if you haven't read it, everyone thinks they know what the story's about, read it again.
	Read it again.
	Read some of Atlas Shrugged.
	Read the things that are about when the left decides to take control, how they do it.
	Because, I mean, obviously it's happening.
	But let's read what people thought it was going to be and how close it is, and then let's tailor our responses.
	And I think the idea that we would let our information space be taken over by a bunch of woke activists and their idiotic ideas was a failure that we are just now starting to unscrew.
	Thanks for that question.
	Let's go to Fred in Cleveland.
	Hi there.
	Hello there.
	Can you hear me?
	I gotcha.
	Okay, so I need education here.
	I have been on Twitter.
	I've had that little blue bird on my phone since Christ was an angel, and it's because our IT person at that time, our marketing person, really said, well, we have to be on Twitter and on Facebook and all kinds of other platforms.
	But I didn't know what it was.
	I was mistrustful of all of them.
	I still am mistrustful.
	I had to look up how to find a search engine other than Google because I don't trust those bastards.
	But I'm very ignorant.
	I'm pushing 80 years old, so I need help understanding when you say that Elon is going to make some sort of a cash cow out of Twitter, I don't understand how Twitter gets revenue. - Well, they previously had advertising as their main revenue source, and that meant that about one out of every, I don't know, five to 10 tweets would be a promoted tweet in your feed that would be a person, a company, whatever, doing what they want to do.
	You know, "Hey, go watch our show, go buy our product, go do whatever." That's been disrupted and now Elon has gone to kind of a subscription model, at least in the short term, saying that if you want access to the wide audience that we have captured and that he now owns, Then you pay for the right to have your ideas propagated to them.
	And that's what the Twitter blue subscription service is about.
	He's going to have to go back to add an advertising model to make it a fully viable business.
	But in the short term, he got a lot of people to subscribe.
	And I think it's a good thing.
	So I think one of the things you can do is just find the same names that you trust for your ideas anywhere.
	And Twitter lets you make lists.
	And those lists, you just make a list, name it, add the accounts of people, and you can just search for them by name.
	Dan Bongino, Kurt Schlichter, Seb Gorka, Jim Hansen.
	And add them to a list, give that list a name, and then you have a way to go to that and see just what they're saying.
	So you don't have to go through the entire giant confluence of Twitter firehose.
	Pick the people you know and start with them, and then you can branch out from there.
	But good for trying.
	Give it a shot.
	I think it is a better news source than any other one we have right now that is not purely conservative in nature.
	Let's talk to Patrick in Orlando.
	Hey Patrick, how's the mouse doing down there?
	Hey Jim, thank you for taking my call.
	Yeah.
	I don't think—you know, at first when he bumped Twitter, it almost seemed like it was a game to him.
	Yeah, I think Elon woke up.
	He's been around the industry, dated actresses and everything else.
	And I think he's been pretty To all this absurd news media and everything else.
	I hate to use the word woke, but I think he woke up.
	Yeah, and I think the opposite, as per my book, Get Based.
	I think Elon is now based, and he understands that wokeness is a menace, and getting based means you look for the reality, you're responsible for what you know and what you learn and what you do.
	And you don't put up with the garbage ideas people are throwing at you, you throw them right back at them.
	So I think at some level, I think he's making it look like it's a game to him, and I think that's kind of a savvy move he's making.
	I don't think it's just pure play.
	He's too good a businessman to be doing that, and so it throws some of his opponents off guard, and they take him for less than he is.
	Now, of course, he is the billionaire playboy, and he does some of that.
	But I also think at some level he is using that as a misdirection while he makes major changes right under our noses.
	Okay, hey, next.
	Great name.
	We got Hodge in Las Vegas.
	Hey, how's it going?
	Outstanding.
	What you got?
	Hey, I just want to make a comment.
	You know, I think Elon Musk is on to something.
	Hopefully it, you know, turns out to help us all out in the end.
	But what I'd really like to make a quick comment about is I'm a bit of a historian.
	And I've been really paying attention to everything that has happened in the United States.
	You know, all these major events, if you really write it down and you look at it, they all seem to keep circling back to the FBI.
	Now, I believe in 1993, they were caught putting a bomb in the World Trade Center.
	In 9-11, they told us they never found the black boxes, which we know was a lie.
	Then they told us we can't listen to them because it's national security.
	I have a funny feeling that what was on those boxes was the pilot saying that they have no control over the aircraft, and oh my god, they're taking us into the towers.
	Still, we've had nothing done with the mortgage fraud and everybody lost so much money and there's so many homeless people out there.
	And the COVID-19, I believe COVID-19 was used to rig the 2020 election.
	And I believe Joe Biden can put his name up there with Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin is murdering his own people for power.
	Well, I'm going to say that I have a lot of distrust of the FBI, maybe not as much as you do, but I do think they have been caught red-handed too many times now to be trusted anymore.
	And I think we need some sort of church committee or other thing to shake them and the intelligence community out because they are no longer serving the best interests of the American people.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio, and we will be back with more Spicy Takes after the break.
	He was right there.
	If he had gone for the melting steel thing, I would have had to jump on, but... You know, the black boxes.
	I don't remember anyone ever actually admitting they had those.
	Did the FBI admit that they had those?
	Black boxes from... 9-11?
	No, they did in the Shanksville one, because remember they let the family listen to it?
	That's right, yeah.
	At least that one, yeah.
	They never did find any from, you know...
	The FBI flew planes in the 9-11s a little much.
	I'm pretty sure that was the bad guys.
	Not that the FBI all aren't trying to do that, but they're not terrorists.
	I'm baffled by the ones who are like, oh, the video from the Pentagon clearly shows it was a missile, not a plane.
	I'm like, are these people actually mentally unstable?
	Yeah, 9-11 truthing is tough.
	Yeah.
	Didn't some of the conspiracy theories come from French intelligence?
	You know, French intelligence.
	They're actually... That's kind of an oxymoron.
	But it's not an oxymoron.
	They're actually painfully good at that kind of false flag misdirection stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	Because they're French.
	You know, it's kind of their game.
	Seriously.
	Fake surrender, yeah.
	Yeah, it's the whole thing.
	They're devious that way.
	Going off the subject of the best road albums for long trips, Someone in the chat here, Roundhammer117 says, when I drove to New York from Western Pennsylvania for Thanksgiving, I listened to Pink Floyd.
	After 30 minutes, I went to the second song.
	Alright, hold on.
	30 minutes.
	The only one that would be that is Echoes.
	Oh, I was thinking Shine On You, Crazy Diamond.
	Yeah, but that's broken up.
	It's not one continuous.
	So if you listen to it on a thing, Echoes, I think, is the only song that's like 27 minutes, which is actually my favorite Floyd song.
	And for whoever that, what's it?
	Roundhammer 117.
	Roundhammer 117.
	My favorite version of Echoes is Live at Pompeii, where they're playing in the dust.
	That is such a great thing.
	I got that now in Surround, and it sounds so good.
	With that setup you have.
	Yeah, the system of the gods.
	35 seconds. 35 seconds.
	35 seconds.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	All right.
	Well, we're back.
	We're going to take another call because I want to make sure we got to everybody who is there.
	And Donna was patiently waiting from Texas.
	What you got for me?
	We need to keep Title 42 in place for more reasons than just COVID.
	Those people are coming from countries where they don't get vaccinated.
	They bring us things that have been eradicated in our country, like polio and measles and tuberculosis.
	And they eventually will overwhelm our medical system.
	We could turn back 90% of them if we just did a medical check on them at the border.
	Free up CBP to do their job and just put a bunch of doctors down there.
	Now that sounds way too common sense to me.
	So that must be why we're not doing it because they don't want to stop people coming in.
	I am stunned and overwhelmed by the actual insanity at our border right now.
	And I think the idea that we don't have open borders is a joke.
	The idea that the government is doing anything other than just waving their hands and pushing people through is crazy.
	I read today they're giving them cell phones.
	You know, and these people are no longer in any way, shape or form refugees or asylum seekers or anyhow, the vast overwhelming majority are economic migrants.
	And one of the features of a nation state is that you decide who you're going to allow to come into your country for purely economic reasons.
	Now we have, okay, asylum, if you're claiming that, there's a law that says that.
	But the problem is the leftist activist organizations have now so popularized the idea that all you have to do is make one of the asylum claims and you're basically going to get past the first wave of screening and then you're in.
	And so these people come in, they're like, yeah, I was attacked because my brother's gay, or I was attacked because I have the wrong political beliefs, I'm from the wrong tribe.
	And most of these people left because they live in a crap hole country, and they're coming here because I guess they heard that the Democrats promised to turn America into a crap hole country.
	Like they have all of the major cities where Democrat rule has turned them into places that would be recognizable to anybody who's been to the third world.
	So I feel for you if you're in Texas, but the problem now is for all of us in America.
	The border is open.
	Everyone's coming.
	We don't know if they have.
	As Donna mentioned, you know, any of these diseases are not being checked.
	They're not being stopped.
	They're not asylum seekers.
	They're economic migrants.
	And it's a wave we either stop Or we give up our status as an actual nation state because that requires that you treat your borders like something other than a pit stop for people who are coming here to enjoy all of the pleasures of life in this country.
	I don't hold it against them, but everybody can't come.
	We need to decide how many.
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	Hey folks, this is more America First Radio.
	Coming up next segment, we're going to be talking to Darren Beattie of Revolver News, and they've got some interesting stuff on their website I think you will enjoy.
	He had a chat with President Trump, and we're going to see what he gleaned from that.
	I wanted to go down the path we've been on, talking about how the information space, Which, okay, and it's funny.
	You can sit here and say, I'm sitting in front of a radio microphone for a syndicated national talk show, and there's an audience of several million who can hear what I'm saying.
	So the idea, and that's been the case for, you know, decades.
	Talk radio was the place where conservatives and Republicans could go ahead and make our voices heard.
	But that then became part of the actual landscape, our information landscape, as social media rose.
	And it's not that talk radio has become any less important.
	It is still the clearest path for us to be able to speak And get the correct information out in the midst of the waves of misinformation, disinformation, lies, and everything else that the left has managed to create with their disinformation sphere.
	So I think it's kind of a dichotomy.
	We do have voices.
	We have major, major voices and major platforms, but not when you compare it with what the left has and has had for a long time.
	So I think we need to, we can't afford not to win the fight for online At least, not equity, because that's what they play.
	All right, we'll earn our peace.
	We just don't want the playing field tilted against us.
	All right, so if you got more thoughts on this, we'll still keep the phone lines open.
	833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	If you want to talk about that or if you want to talk about other topics.
	But I think the fight right now is because they've done such a brilliant job at Taking control of all of the major avenues of information distribution.
	You know, you can start with education.
	Who teaches your kids?
	Leftists.
	They teach them from the time we put them in kindergarten all the way through.
	If you're not homeschooling, you are putting your kids into a machine that is designed to create woke copies, non-player character copies, out the other end.
	They go up through that.
	Academia, obviously, higher education was where all of this came from.
	They hatched these ideas in academia, pushed them down through their ability to train people at colleges and then send them to teach our kids.
	But then there used to be news.
	There used to be actual news and journalism going on.
	That hasn't happened in the past 10, 15, maybe 20 years.
	No one who is in the media business does news.
	They all do opinion and activism, and it's called journalism.
	So they decide what they want to tell us, and then they go find information that matches their narrative, and they put that out, and then they hide information that doesn't.
	And they've been brilliantly successful about it.
	The other place, as Andrew Breitbart, who is sorely, sorely missed, Pointed out to us politics is downstream of culture.
	And if you think for a second that the vast majority of minds are changed by anything other than our culture, you're wrong.
	All right.
	What we do here and what happens in news and opinion and all the rest of that is about people who engage in things like that.
	But so many more people are passively indoctrinated because the culture they are served up is so woke.
	and so full of crazed leftist ideas that you can't watch a show now without knowing that inside of the first five minutes there will be at least one lesbian kissing scene.
	You know, all of a sudden a trans person's gonna walk up.
	Half the cast will be characters, you know, they had a show where the Queen of England was black.
	I mean, come on, man!
	And this wasn't even now!
	Not that she wasn't black or whatever, but it's garbage.
	So keep an eye on all of that.
	Let's keep fighting it.
	We had a call.
	I want to talk to Angela in California, where a lot of this garbage came from.
	Hey, how you doing out there?
	Hey, Merry Christmas.
	Happy New Year.
	Same to you.
	I just want to talk about Elon a little because I haven't heard this very much.
	I heard it on this news station out here in the California area where I live about Elon.
	Some partners in his, when he bought Twitter, it was Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
	And then also, I thought it was interesting that China went to Saudi Arabia.
	And I was kind of wondering, what are they doing?
	Trading around for Twitter shares or something?
	Yeah, that's a legitimate concern.
	The guy, the main Saudi is Al-Waleed, who is one of the royal family.
	He's been involved in some questionable ventures, I think.
	He was an owner of Twitter before, though.
	He was a large, large shareholder.
	But that was under Dorsey days, you know.
	Now the idea that he would want control of that now or some input and control I think is a concern.
	I think the way it's set up, to the best of my knowledge, Elon is the sole board member, sole decider, and anybody who put capital in Uh, is subject to his whims right now.
	So he's under no requirement to allow people seats on the board to give them a voice or any of that.
	And so it's a private company again, you know, so there's a lot to it.
	It's worth watching.
	And I think the Saudis have A lot of investments going on.
	I think they're trying to find a way to get out of the oil business since that's going down.
	And I think we need to concern ourselves with what they're doing.
	But overall, they're not my biggest concern on that.
	I think domestically we have bigger enemies.
	I think the Saudis are more interested in making money.
	The other thing I want to discuss is now that Elon owns Twitter and we talked a little bit with John Schweppe about what the business model might be for him to take that back out.
	I think at some point he's going to want to take it back public and so he's going to have to be in a position where he's got a viable business model, he's got the eyeballs, he's got the one platform Where all the famous and, you know, pretty people want to be.
	And I think that's something, you know, Instagram is something, you know, and it's, it's a place where it's the pretty people who don't have political views go.
	But there's still, there's too much in the public policy and the realm of news and other things for Twitter to not be the best place for that.
	Now, nothing is guaranteed.
	You know, I've talked to the founders of MySpace.
	I think one of the funniest things I saw was when Elon was casting about and saying who would be crazy enough, you know, he'll, he'll step down when he finds someone crazy enough to take the job as Twitter's CEO.
	And, you know, there was a lot of talk about what happens when, when media and social media companies crash.
	The founder of MySpace popped up in Elon's feed.
	and offered to take the job as if he would be the crazy one.
	I hope that's not the answer, because that didn't work out so well for my space.
	But in the end, what we've got right now, I think, is a new opportunity for us.
	So on a talk radio channel, which I think is the safest place, has been, and will continue to be, the one place that we have dominated, and I think it is the one thing You know, thank Rush Limbaugh, thank Seb, Hugh Hewitt, you know, there's any number of major radio talkers who kept us alive when we had no place else to go.
	They were the only voices in the wilderness.
	And I think, you know, from the Reagan revolution on, none of that, none of the successes we've had could have happened absent talk radio.
	But we have to have a voice where everyone else is too, because there's not a lot of liberals listening right now, unless I am sorely mistaken by the demographics I read.
	And so if we're going to argue with them, and the reason to argue with them is we're not going to change their minds, but something else that Elon pointed out on Twitter is almost 90% of the people on Twitter are not saying anything or commenting or liking or retweeting.
	They're watching and listening.
	They're gaining their ideas.
	They're there to absorb information and we need to be there in strength Because here I'm talking to people who are already engaged in the fight.
	Now what we need to do is in the course of discussing these issues and getting smarter on them and finding out what the best takes are, then we need to take those takes to the street.
	And that's Twitter, that's Facebook, that's YouTube, that's the other places there.
	That's a backyard barbecue.
	You know, but all the places where we're going to engage with the ideas the leftists are using to destroy this country, we need to have the best ideas and we need to be fighting and winning.
	That's why I'm kind of, you could say I'm obsessed with it, because I think it is the place where we engage with the other team for the benefit of the lurkers.
	for the benefit of the people who are there to see what happens when ideas clash, when warriors of ideology fight and try to see whose ideas will prevail.
	The big advantage we have?
	Our ideas are so much better than theirs that in a fair fight we will win.
	We'll be back after the break with Darren Beatty from Revolver News.
	I'm Jim Hansen, and this is America First Radio.
	Yeah, people have joked about like, people have joked about like, oh, what other company should Elon buy next?
	Like, realistically, if there's one other social media platform that we have to get to really have a big impact, forgetting the others, I would say it'd be YouTube.
	You know, we can deal with Instagram and Facebook being the way they are, but YouTube being video sharing, video sharing is so important.
	Live streaming.
	Okay, but Google owns YouTube and they're never going to do it.
	Well, yeah, that's the amount of money that would cost.
	Yeah, they won't do it.
	So here's the thing.
	That's why I think Elon's play is, he said, someone, one of the, it wasn't that, uh, that Mr. Whatever that John Schweppe mentioned, but he talked to some YouTuber and told them, bring your whole catalog to us and you can have it there and you won't be throttled by the algorithms.
	So I think he's going to build that capability.
	That'd be pretty cool.
	He wasn't referencing PewDiePie, was he?
	Because Schweppe described him as the biggest YouTuber of all time, and I'm like, well, that's PewDiePie.
	Yeah, no, it was, uh, Mr. Something.
	Mr. Fantastic.
	Mr. Beast?
	Mr. Beast.
	He's not the number one YouTuber.
	He's got a weird brand.
	Are you fact-checking John Schweppe?
	No, I'm just saying, I mean, he's an interesting fella, for sure.
	Like, he kind of does this Oprah shtick of randomly giving $10,000 to, like, a random homeless person, but, like, just kind of for views, and people are like, oh, you're taking advantage of homeless people.
	He's kind of weird, but I think he does lean a little more our side politically, so that's probably his thing.
	Well, I think your point that we need video sharing, I think you should buy Rumble.
	Why not buy Rumble?
	And then you've got the platform, it's already set up, it works great.
	Right, RumbleChat?
	Exactly, yeah.
	Of all the alternative, conservative alternatives to tech, it's by far the most successful.
	Yeah, and Tim Poole on Twitter said, if you do video sharing, I'll bring TimCast over.
	He said that direct to Elon, you know, so I mean those are the kind of things you only need a few and if you can if you can monetize it and they know they're not because I did a Tim cast and literally he pulled the plug on the live feed because I said that Mark Zuckerberg shouldn't be deposed in a in a deposition he should be defenestrated.
	Right, okay.
	I just wanted to use the word because I think it's a funny word.
	It is a funny word.
	But it means throw someone out of a second story window.
	Yes.
	And so he said, YouTube's gonna give me a strike for making a threat.
	Even though it was 100% clearly a joke.
	So he pulled the plug on the live feed and we just did the rest of the show, you know, without the live feed.
	Yeah, which is absurd.
	But that's the kind of thing.
	I mean, he's dealing with that every day.
	And so are plenty of other people who could have more entertaining shows if they could talk about what they want.
	Yeah, and realistically, that's what it is, is, you know, make it Twitter have these features that kind of copy other sites, but do it better.
	Like, you remember Snapchat came out?
	Every single website ever, Facebook, Instagram, they all have this, the stories, 24 hours it's gone to just copy Snapchat, and they did it horribly.
	But like, If you can do it well so it's not just copying YouTube, then yeah, it's a system that works.
	And that's just it.
	Permanent platform for content that people stay there.
	They have a destination page.
	He's not answering.
	I'll keep trying.
	You have those video cuts, though, too, if you want to.
	Okay.
	Yes, we do have them.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	All right, we talked a little bit earlier about the border.
	We had Donna called in from Texas, where I think things are actually a crisis.
	But not everybody believed that for a long time.
	I want to play Cut 2, where we actually get someone at MSNBC to admit that.
	The Biden administration has asked Chief Justice Roberts to rule against the challenge issued by GOP-led states to keep Title 42 in place, arguing the public health rationale is no longer valid.
	Meanwhile, the developing situation at the border is being described by some as a crisis, with multiple border towns and cities overwhelmed by the influx of migrants.
	Described by some as a crisis, as if somehow having millions of people and we're breaking all records of any place as far as the number of people coming across our border in violation of what our border policies are.
	So, they kind of quibbled a little bit, you know, about whether or not—of course, some describe it as a crisis.
	Well, I'll tell you what, if this isn't a border crisis, I don't know what is.
	All right, we've got another caller from Texas.
	Let's talk to Daniel and see what he thinks is going on.
	Hey, thank you for taking my call.
	I wanted to call—y'all were speaking yesterday about John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell and all that.
	John Cornyn has remained in office because we have never truly had somebody run against him, somebody who's qualified or even not qualified.
	I would vote for somebody that wasn't, if it would just replace John Cornyn.
	I have disagreed with him every time he's been reelected for the first two years after the election and just right before.
	He's always done, oh look me, I'm doing all this good stuff, but Two years in, and he turns against the Republican Party every time.
	Now, I have told him that in 26, if there is no viable candidate, that I will run against him.
	Now, I'll be like that trucker I heard about on the East Coast who had that $1,000 war chest.
	I got $1,000.
	I got set aside.
	We have got to have somebody that can run against him and preferably somebody a little bit more qualified than me.
	I'm planning on running.
	Well, I appreciate you at least throwing your hat in the ring and I think you're making a fair point that unfortunately too many other people in this country could make.
	They have representatives who campaign as Republicans or conservatives even and then get into office and they're Democrat lite.
	There's just another version of the Uniparty and they're not doing what their constituents need.
	So I think any place that that is happening Everybody should be doing what you're doing there.
	Go ahead and say, if you will not serve us in the way that we deserve to be our elected representatives, to do what we send them to Washington to do, then we're going to replace you, or we're going to challenge you, and we're going to hold your feet to the fire.
	And no one should have to accept the kind of You know, lackadaisical, rhino, spineless jellyfish that keep showing up here in Washington and making things worse.
	All right, I want to, can we go ahead and cue up a video cut too?
	Because I think, I want to point out that this is what the left thinks about you and me.
	This is Matthew Dowd.
	All of us know on this panel, and you could probably interview 100 people and 99 would say the same thing about this, is the center of the Republican Party has moved towards the America first, white nationalism, towards authoritarianism.
	That now is the center of the Republican Party.
	Well, okay, you almost had it.
	The center of our party is moving towards America first.
	That's not white nationalism, you leftist toad.
	You know, the idea that somehow, because we don't want to allow, we don't want to be party to, When the left is taking every piece of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, flipping it on its head and saying, I know it says thou shalt not discriminate against anyone based on the color or other factors that are in the Civil Rights Act, but it's okay if we do it against white people because they're evil.
	And they literally have come to that conclusion that there is no protection, they believe, under the Civil Rights Act or common decency for anything that discriminates against white people because screw them.
	And I think that's something that they're going to find out is the Supreme Court is not a party to.
	And I think we've got the college admissions case that the Supreme Court heard a few months back is going to be a good representation of whether they're going to stand up for everyone's rights.
	I don't believe in white pride or black pride or gay pride or any of the rest of it as a specific thing.
	I don't think those are the important factors.
	Those are intangibles.
	Those are things that people aren't responsible for, that they shouldn't be held accountable for or discriminated against for, but should also not be the basis for your identity.
	If you identify primarily as a black person or a gay person or a white person, I think you're a failure as a person.
	And I think that's where we differ now, and we on the right are the tolerant ones.
	We're not white nationalists.
	We're nationalists who believe that everyone should just accept who they are, not hassle other people based on what they are.
	And more importantly, and more in tune with the founding documents and principles that make this country great, don't discriminate against people to fix discrimination that was fixed 50 years ago.
	And don't force people to believe what you believe or try to force people to believe what you believe because you think somehow you have the greatest ideas in the world.
	The left has been trying that.
	We're standing up and fighting it.
	And I think that's a fight we will win because the Constitution and at this point at least the Supreme Court still believe that that's how this country runs.
	I'm Jim Hansen sitting in for Sebastian Gorka.
	And we'll be back after the break with a little more America First Radio.
	Alright.
	And you can do the next two.
	If you want, yeah.
	And then I can do Mitch as the close.
	The closing rant in the final segment, yeah, because we're done with the reads.
	Okay.
	Couldn't, don't want to cheat anybody.
	Don't want false advertising here.
	Have a rumble revolution.
	So back to your point of radio can be ad hoc.
	We can do whatever we want.
	Exactly.
	As Seb always says, Semper Gumby.
	Seb, always flexible.
	I remember that, yep.
	God, I loved that when I was a kid.
	Oh, Gumby?
	Yeah, I watched Gumby as a kid.
	I had the VHS.
	Oh, he's on now.
	Three minutes.
	All right.
	Hey, Darren, how you doing?
	I am doing great.
	Right on.
	Hey, listen, you got a tease or at least a breaking red thing up on your website about Trump and the church committee.
	Yes.
	I would love to chat with you about that and see what he says and you think, because we've got to have something.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	It's not that I lay awake at night waiting for that knock on the door.
	You know, it's just that I assume I'm on all the right lists.
	We all are.
	Right.
	I'd just as soon throttle that back before I actually have to pay a lawyer.
	Really?
	Yes, it's very true.
	So we'll see what happens, but a lot of people are starting to say church, church committee.
	Well, I mean, we need something, you know, and that actually, then it becomes, you know, we could do Republican House and Democrat Senate, right?
	And do both houses and let the cards fall where they may.
	And I don't think they'll like that, you know?
	Right.
	They don't want this, but how are you going to say no to a bipartisan look at that?
	We'll see, they'll try.
	And if not, we can just do it in the house.
	I mean, I upped, we actually were redoing business insurance, and my agent's like, how much liability coverage do you want?
	And I'm like, how much do you have?
	You know, because lawyers are expensive, and if I end up in the dock, I don't want to be there.
	And I don't think I was one of the guys that, remember Clockboy?
	Yeah.
	Ahmed, he sued me and we won.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	It was me.
	They sued Ben Shapiro and Kurt Schlichter was actually Shapiro's lawyer.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	But they kept appealing our verdict and we took them all the way to the Texas Supreme Court and won.
	And the little bugger's father owes me a quarter mil, which I don't think I'm going to see.
	Yeah.
	Just not expecting that to be part of my retirement package.
	One minute.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I remember Clock Boy.
	That's a blast from the past.
	Oh, dude, that was so much fun.
	I mean, my wife disliked it a little more.
	I thought it was hilarious to get sued by him for saying that he brought, because I said he brought half a bomb to school.
	And then you can sue me about the, except for the fact that I can say, I literally built a bomb using a Radio Shack digital clock as the detonator.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, come on.
	I think I can claim expert on that.
	30 seconds.
	Right.
	Yeah, I was in high school when that happened.
	Goodness gracious, that was forever ago.
	Yeah, it was... 2015, maybe?
	16?
	Oh.
	Oh, okay.
	2015 maybe?
	16?
	Oh, okay.
	20 seconds. 20 seconds. 20 seconds.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, welcome back.
	A little more America First Radio and now we're going to talk with Darren Beatty, proprietor of the always excellent Revolver News, one of the many outlets now, not even many, one of the few outlets on our team who actually is breaking news stories.
	I want to talk to you.
	You've got a great piece up on your website because you talked to President Donald J. Trump about something that we've been discussing today, the abuse of power and Well, first of all, thanks for having me.
	I'm really happy to be here.
	And you mentioned, yeah, I had the honor of having a pretty extensive conversation with President Trump.
	Well, first of all, thanks for having me.
	I'm really happy to be here.
	And as you mentioned, yeah, I had the honor of having a pretty extensive conversation with President Trump.
	I would say probably the most extensive conversation he's had on the topic of the national security abuses that we've learned about.
	And it's really a common thread running through the Russiagate hoax to the Twitter files, which essentially tells the story that the big tech censorship problem is a government censorship problem, that various agencies within the intelligence community are leaning on big tech to censor certain critical stories.
	And then You know, there's a thing that revolver.news is probably most famous for, which is the story of the Fed's erection, which is also the story of the government and national security state.
	And so the thread running through all these things is that the national security state has become the chief bottleneck to progress in our country, to the extent that, you know, I've been saying in less than until we bring the national security state to heel, Politics will basically be fake and performative.
	And so this is where the church committee idea comes in.
	And this was a kind of congressional hearing investigation, very broad scope expose into the malfeasance of the intelligence community, FBI, CIA, into domestic civilian affairs.
	And I think we can all agree that it's time for something like that right now that can encompass in its scope
	The disinformation industry that's been responsible for its new wave of censorship, various election integrity issues, to censorship, to things like the Fed's erection, where we see very troubling signs of federal involvement in protest movements and things like that.
	And so I had the opportunity to talk about this with Trump, and I don't want to give the whole thing away, but suffice it to say that he is very receptive, very positive to these ideas, and positive about a new church style committee specifically.
	And I don't think anybody in public life who's not in prison right now has suffered more from the abuse of state power against political enemies than he has.
	He was in their crosshairs from the time he declared as a candidate To today, you know, and ongoing.
	Yeah.
	So do you think we can get with a, you know, Republican-controlled House barely and a Democrat-controlled Senate barely, is there any chance we can get both of them to jointly hold hearings on this?
	I mean, I think that's, it's very difficult.
	You know, there's the ideal and there's the reality.
	I think it's an achievement in and of itself just to get people talking about it.
	Sure, South Committee, you know, The idea of it had remained dormant for a long time, and a lot of people, probably a lot of younger people, hadn't even heard that reference, which is a useful thing to look up.
	But it's very hard to do, and so I don't want to sort of pretend like this is something that's sort of ready-made.
	We have to think about it seriously in order to do it well, but even looking back to the church committee hearings themselves, there's a different situation in the sense that It was covering a lot of abuses perpetrated against the political left.
	And so the political left had power then as they do now, and they could make something with teeth.
	Where versus now, the situation is very asymmetrical.
	All the power seems to be on one side.
	Another issue is a lot of the national security architecture that you see today, has come about as a result of the Church Committee.
	In fact, this whole new landscape in which there are these civil society NGO cutouts basically doing the dirty work for the national security state, that in large part exists as a response to the Church Committee hearings.
	The national security community said, okay, well, we can't get away with a lot of this stuff in-house anymore, so we're going to create this sort of civil society cutout architecture where we effectively outsource the dirty work, but it's really happening from the government's side in essence but it's really happening from the government's side in essence anyway.
	And so, the New Church Committee would have to encompass that as well.
	Yeah, and we caught him at it, and the nice thing is now there's at least evidence.
	So it will be an uphill battle, and we can talk some more about this after the break with Darren Beatty of Revolver News, where you're going to find out a lot of things that the left doesn't want you to.
	Back with more America First.
	All right.
	All right.
	We have a caller on the line from Alaska.
	Really?
	Homer, Alaska.
	Isn't Homer where Sarah Palin's from?
	I can't remember.
	That's a new one for me.
	He's still on the line.
	Three and a half minutes.
	Hey Darren, is there anything else you want to jump to?
	I'm slightly obsessed with this, as I think we all should be.
	We can keep with this.
	Really, any direction you want to go.
	I just want to plug this new J6 committee report that's out that I wrote the introduction for, the Skyhorse thing.
	I can just plug it really quickly, but other than that, we'll go wherever you want to go.
	I think that's entirely relevant to what we're talking about, so I'll open with that, and we'll freelance from there.
	What do you think the odds are of getting the rest of the J6 committee information out?
	Are the Democrats going to be able to bury that?
	I talked to Julie Kelly before, and she seemed to think they might get away with that.
	Yeah, I suspect they will.
	You know, the big question, I think, is whether we can preserve some of that apparatus in order to actually ask the right question.
	You know, that'll be a question as to whether the committee itself will be preserved in any fashion when we have the new Congress.
	So if they shut it down and they get to set the rules then about the historic—because it just feels to me like FOIA and the Public Records Act and all the rest of this stuff should somehow apply to them being able to hide a bunch of exculpatory information like they are.
	Right.
	I mean, I think they can probably hide a lot of it.
	I think a lot of the exculpatory information is just public domain.
	You know, there's a lot of, you know, anyone who's studied the issue to any degree can see where the blind spots are as far as the committee's approach, you know, in terms of their quote-unquote high-profile investigations and in terms of the witnesses they had.
	Like, one of the guys they had as a witness was actually just facing sentencing and had a deal.
	And it's basically he gets up there to stand, very Orwellian.
	They're like, are you sure that you no longer believe the 2020 election was stolen?
	I assure you, I was led astray by Donald Trump.
	I was led astray by... The guy has a deal and he's about to be sentenced.
	He's scared to death.
	Of course he's going to say that.
	And there's no cross-examination procedure.
	So there's these basic questions that anyone paying attention can ask.
	You don't need secret information or privileged information.
	that it was totally blocked out of the proceeding itself.
	And there are, you know, many cases like that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, is it Kafka?
	Is it Orwell?
	There's so many people writing dystopian things that are actually now breaking news, you know?
	Right.
	I wish, I wish they weren't using those playbooks.
	All right.
	Well, I'm going to open up with your, uh, your report.
	What was it called?
	Skyhorse?
	Yep.
	Skyhorse.
	Okay.
	We'll be right back.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Welcome back.
	A little more America First for you.
	We're still talking to Darren Beatty, proprietor of revolver.news.
	And Darren, you've got a forward you wrote for a report Skyhorse coming out about January 6th.
	What can you tell us about that that is going to shine a little bit more light on that debacle?
	Absolutely.
	This is the definitive, comprehensive takedown of the January 6th Committee's report.
	But it's more than just a takedown, because about the first half of it just goes into great detail about just how the Committee itself is set up as a corrupt and partisan institution.
	It was never going to be an objective fact-finding institution to get to the bottom of J6.
	Just as one example of this, Benny Thompson, two things about Benny Thompson, who is the chair of that committee.
	First of all, Benny Thompson, in his personal capacity, did a lawsuit against Trump and the Proud Boys and some others about January 6th, in which he outlined the specific theory of what happened on January 6th.
	And this person goes on to chair a committee of this fact-finding committee.
	I'm sure he'll be open-minded.
	That's a little conflict of interest there.
	Another interesting thing is we've learned from the Twitter files and other things the role of the Department of Homeland Security in this domestic war on terror.
	And it just so happens to be that Benny Thompson is the Department of Homeland Security's stooge in Congress.
	In fact, He's been the chair of the Homeland Security Committee seven times, and he is the current chair of the Homeland Security Committee right now.
	So we go into great detail about that.
	If you've heard about the Color Revolution operative Norm Eisen, I suppose how his fingerprints are all over this committee and so forth.
	But I would say the really interesting and the really dark stuff Actually pertains to the questions that the committee does not explore.
	And I would say the committee was set up specifically to obfuscate and deflect from.
	And those are the questions that Revolver News is very well known for, which explore the federal role in this.
	And just for sake of brevity, because I don't have Three hours to go on about it.
	I would say that the two smoking guns of the Fed's direction, one is an individual who is now close to a household name, an individual called Ray Epps, and the other smoking gun is the January 6th pipe bomb.
	So I go into great detail exposing so many things about those two issues and more issues that really, I think, paint a very dark picture Of the kind of country that this has become.
	Well, now here's the thing.
	You said the questions they didn't ask, and I think that's fair.
	But the questions they did ask, I am at this point still blissfully unaware of any evidence of an actual crime being committed outlined anywhere in the 900 pages of that report.
	And certainly nothing showing a sadistic conspiracy or any incitement of an insurrection.
	Did I miss something?
	No, you didn't miss something.
	You know, certainly by, you know, it was so Trump focused.
	And that's the thing is that this is really like an attempted third impeachment of Trump.
	This is all this prolonged effort in order to cripple Trump politically, and to more broadly suppress the energies associated with the Trump movement.
	And so Yeah, even though like the actual January 6th, the whole issue at the Capitol has virtually nothing to do with Trump.
	If you have to actually want to understand why did they have such poor security, like Trump requested security, they denied it.
	They don't ask like, why did they deny it?
	In fact, there's little details again, like this stuff that really blows your mind.
	So there's a DHS veteran Um, who is in charge of writing a threat assessment report for J6.
	This is standard stuff that's typically done.
	For some reason, they don't write any threat assessment report.
	The guy responsible for that decision, not only not castigated, not challenged, not questioned, um, in the course of the committee, but he is actually a committee staffer.
	Liz Cheney hired the guy.
	You know, that's kind of a great way to do it.
	You just got to pay the people you don't want.
	Yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	Well, okay.
	Now, so you've got the idea.
	They didn't find any crimes.
	They have their and they've referred crimes now to the Justice Department.
	What do you think the odds are they're going to actually pin one on Trump and try this?
	You know, that's difficult to say.
	That's difficult to say.
	I would be slightly I wouldn't be shocked, but I would be surprised if they actually attempt to do that.
	I mean, there is this whole game.
	Again, this is about crippling Trump politically.
	And I think there's this sense that, oh, if we hang the possibility, the threat of prosecution over his head, this can kind of produce a more restrained version of Trump that, you know, is less threatening to the establishment.
	I think there's Thinking sort of that sort of strategy.
	I don't think it'll work.
	I think they do.
	He's not very restrainable.
	That does not seem to be one of his traits.
	I mean, if anything, it'll make him go harder, which I mean, when people listen to the interview I did with him, they'll see what I mean by going harder is completely unleashed.
	And especially when it comes to national security state, because I talked to him about this.
	I said, look, you know, there's a lot of talk about the 2020 election being stolen, but in a way, The real stolen election was 2016, or at least it was half stolen, because Trump won, he went into the White House, he did a lot of great things, but he was crippled and impeded at every turn by very bureaucracy that was nominally under his control.
	It should have been under his authority in the executive branch, but it was totally rogue, working for totally competing interests.
	This is that national security state problem that we've been talking about.
	And so in certain critical ways, the full potential of what 2016 could have meant and what people wanted when they voted for Trump was robbed from the American people.
	And the robbers in this case were the so-called protectors of democracy.
	But in fact, they're anything but.
	And that's the corrupt and illegitimate national security state.
	So when and where can people find your report?
	So, again, go to Skyhorse.
	This is the thing, is that all of these different publishing houses are putting out versions of the report with their own introductions, and the media is freaking out that Skyhorse asked me to do an introduction, because, you know, if you dare to get a Republican, you better get someone like Ben Sasse.
	They're like, oh my god, Darren, media revolver news, this is unconscionable.
	So this is the Skyhorse version.
	It's the version they don't want you to buy.
	We'll find it there.
	And thank you, Darren Beatty, for doing the work no one else will do.
	Revolver.News.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	and we'll be back with more America First Radio.
	All right.
	That was down to the wire.
	Yeah, well.
	Yeah, I don't know what happens when you Google Skyhorse.
	I didn't see a link.
	That's why I was asking.
	Skyhorse Publishing.
	New releases.
	I don't know well January 6th report by Darren Beattie Okay, it's available.
	So yeah, so for Rumble Chat, Skyhorse Publishing, January 6th report, Darren Beattie.
	Slightly bummed we didn't get to see today's hairstyle, but we'll go and assume it was too wild and that's why we couldn't do Skype.
	Yeah, now it blew up or something, melted.
	All right.
	Well, we will deliver the rant on McCarthy McConnell.
	It'll be short, fast, swift, ugly.
	There probably won't be time for additional steak recipes.
	I know.
	How sad.
	Well, I'll be back.
	We can do that.
	But if the steak thing got crushed today, I can't imagine it's going to do much better tomorrow.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	That's true.
	And I can just do it whenever I want.
	Haha.
	What's up?
	I had comms down.
	Oh, okay.
	Alright.
	One minute.
	Alright.
	Very bummed about the hair.
	Me too!
	I mean, you gotta look at my hair and we don't get Darren's hair.
	I even wore no hat today, so you can see the full extent of my gorgeous... See, I gotta get the little tiny little peak there with what's left.
	Little bitty.
	Yeah, you gotta do what you can do.
	do and like so you you you you you you you you you you you you you
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Well, hey folks, we are at the last segment of today's America First Radio.
	As some of you may know, when I guest host, we asked the Rumble Chat in the first hour to give us some ideas for topics for a free-form rant.
	We have a Twitter poll in the second hour, and the winner of that today was, how do we get rid of McConnell and McCarthy?
	And the answer to that is, I think the answer to that was first described by William F. Buckley Jr., proprietor of National Review, back when that was actually a conservative magazine and not the cuckshed as it currently is.
	But what he had, there was a, I believe it was a senator named Drew Pearson.
	And Buckley formed, and actually incorporated in whatever way you do that with an official committee, the Committee to Horse Whip Drew Pearson.
	And he actually was planning on, and I don't know how much planning, and for whatever federal agencies are in charge of cuffing and stuffing conservatives who say crazy things, I'm joking!
	And so was Buckley at some level.
	But I think right now, I don't think we can actually get them out of power for at least the next year.
	We're going to have to do what we can with it.
	We're going to have to let some things happen and be prepared.
	So our team in the house, which I think will have Kevin McCarthy in charge, is going to have a very nervous Kevin McCarthy in charge as speaker because he's barely got a majority.
	And if this Santos lunatic gets bounced, we may have what?
	Three seats of a majority.
	Now, that's that's all you need if you can keep it together.
	But that also means you can take that apart as the Freedom Caucus or the America First Caucus, whatever any of the the powers from our side.
	now have a lot more clout.
	So as people like Jim Jordan and Steve Scalise and Biggs and those guys are looking at challenging McCarthy, he needs to be wary of what he does and not set off an internal palace coup.
	Now, it's harder in the Senate because we have, sadly, a large collection of gutless weasels who are part of our minority there.
	And you've got the 18 turncoats who sold out the country for a payoff in the omnibus bill.
	So I think McCarthy is a little nervous.
	McConnell, not so much.
	But that doesn't stop us from starting the National Committee to horsewhip McConnell and McCarthy.
	Figuratively, and go ahead and put the fear in them that their positions are not anywhere near as strong as they would like them to be.
	So I would like to think that Kevin McCarthy is enough of a political tool that he will blow with the wind and the ascendance of the America first.
	crowd within the caucus in the house and turn them loose.
	Give them some peanut power.
	Let the committee heads do some stuff and put some of our people in charge.
	Put MTG someplace she can do some damage because she's fun.
	I don't care what what the left thinks about her.
	She's a fighter and we'll take it.
	So thanks for a chance to entertain you guys today, I hope.
	I'll be back tomorrow and we will do another couple hours of America First Radio.
	Seb Gorka will be back sometime soon, which I should know, but I don't.

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