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Dec. 15, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The Truth about the Swamp and Mike Pompeo

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	You must know you inject Trump into everything.
	No, it's not true.
	I mean, Trump's just down there playing God.
	I'm not even covering his stuff tonight that's all over the news.
	It's not true.
	I'm not one of those guys.
	I don't have Trump derangement syndrome.
	What, the superhero stuff?
	The superhero stuff?
	Hey, look, he's smart.
	If you build it, they will come.
	There's something weird, isn't there, about seeing Fredo Cuomo and Bill O'Reilly on the same thing?
	Jeff, isn't that a bit weird?
	I mean, I don't want to call anybody a has-been, but isn't that like two has-beens?
	Yeah, that both got thrown off primetime for the same thing of real networks.
	I know, and then what does Fredo have now?
	What is that thing?
	Is that like in his basement, he's recording on his iPhone, or what is that?
	It's NewsNation, I think.
	They take phone calls, though.
	I've been meaning to call in.
	Oh, please!
	Please, just make sure the DVR is running and you need to call in to Fredo's show.
	I love it.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	We've got to have a laugh to open the show.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First coming to you from just outside the insalubrious, fetid, rank, malodorous swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	We have some amazing guests for you today.
	Kash Patel, former Deputy Director of National Intelligence.
	Natalie Winters from Bannon's War Room.
	I will be on Steve's show later today.
	And That troublemaker extraordinaire for the third hour, Amanda Milius, John Milius's daughter, talking about some swamp creatures who are allegedly on our side of the aisle.
	And then the smartest political mind I've ever worked with, my former White House colleague Andy Sarabian, on what the aftermath of the midterms really means for you and your family as the new Congress is sworn in in January.
	But first things first, Let's talk about what's happening at Mar-a-Lago.
	So there was, what, yesterday?
	The president said, big announcement coming today!
	Big, big announcement.
	And then we wake up this morning and there's some weird thing about... Eric, what is an NFT?
	You said you don't even understand it.
	I don't understand it.
	What is it?
	I'm a millennial and I don't even know what it is.
	From what I know, it's like a crypto adjacent thing where you can make like a custom image and like Sell it.
	All I know is it peaked for a brief while like Dogecoin and then it tanked and now it's just a meme and people make jokes about it.
	Is Alex younger than you?
	I don't think so, Alex.
	You're a kid as well, right Alex?
	Yeah, I'm a millennial.
	What is NFT?
	Do you know what NFT is?
	No, I can't.
	I mean, I have purchased NFTs, but I could not explain.
	That's not a good way to start.
	I don't know what it is, but I bought them.
	That is not a good way to start the explanation.
	All right.
	But the president's announcement was what?
	Some pictures of him, some artwork that you can buy as some kind of trading card, like baseball cards, investments or whatever.
	And everybody thought, hang on.
	Is this the big, big announcement?
	Trading cards?
	NFTs?
	Really?
	After the announcement to run for the Presidents again?
	And then what do we find out?
	Drowned out by all of this whatever-it-is crypto NFT stuff.
	The President drops an amazing video, a six, seven minute video, just him, very presidential, talking to the camera.
	It's his policy platform for his next administration when it comes to freedom of speech and the First Amendment, including amazing things like, you know, the protection of children who are being exploited on platforms like Twitter, like TikTok, until, you know, Elon Musk comes along.
	So an amazingly important artifact Of a former president who wants to be president again.
	And I was just on a call with one of the best analysts and observers of American politics in the UK.
	You'll hear him on the show tomorrow.
	And while we're chatting we discussed this.
	And he said, what video?
	I didn't even know that the president dropped a video.
	Right!
	You didn't!
	Because of the confusion around President Trump.
	So I'm not going to just sit here and avoid the issue because we need him back in Washington DC.
	I don't trust anybody else who's a career politician.
	I really, no literally, do not trust anyone else who's a career politician who is being discussed as an alternative.
	Because they are career politicians.
	But the president needs some good advisors.
	So I texted Mar-a-Lago and asked somebody on his team who worked with me in the White House the following, and excuse my language, I was a little bit miffed this morning.
	Who the hell came up with the NFT?
	And I got a response from my buddy.
	It was separate from the campaign.
	It was done with one of the president's business friends.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	But my response was, with one, two, three, four, five, six, seven!
	Exclamation marks.
	TIMING!
	Just because somebody's got an idea, You know, a fun idea, a wacky idea, a money-making idea.
	Okay.
	I don't care.
	You coordinate that with the office, with the front office of the man who just, what was it?
	When were we at Mar-a-Lago, Jeff?
	Was that five weeks ago?
	Seems like yesterday.
	How long ago was that?
	It was the election night and then the week after the election.
	Right.
	So it was November 15th or something.
	Okay.
	A month ago.
	A month ago!
	He declares his candidacy with an amazing speech, a speech in which he declares war on the swamp more than he has even done the first time, where he says, I'm going to initiate a constitutional amendment.
	To have term limits so we don't have swamp creatures in Congress for 40 years!
	I'm going to initiate a lifetime ban for members of Congress from lobbying so they can't just, you know, transition from being politicians to making billions and millions of dollars like Bill Barr from the buddies they were formerly regulating in government.
	That's ballsy!
	That's a declaration of war!
	And then the first policy announcement five weeks later.
	That work went into it.
	Serious work.
	It's great.
	Perfectly timed.
	With Elon's acquisition of Twitter.
	With the fifth drop of the Twitter files exposing government collusion, the FBI, DHS, ODNI, with Twitter.
	To focus on the First Amendment?
	And the other issue that's likewise driving what Elon's doing at Twitter?
	The protection of children from exploitation on social media platforms?
	And some cretin says, oh yeah, today's a good day to drop the NFT advert.
	So here's my plea to those listening, and I will communicate this as well to those who need to know privately.
	We need a team around the president who are serious.
	Who've worked in that business before, of campaigns and politics, who know what they're doing, who know when to say something, when not to say something, when one issue must not be clouded by another or drowned out by the noise of something unrelated to winning back the White House.
	So let's have some serious men and women around the man who this nation needs back in that office.
	That's my take.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, the latest on FTX, the biggest crypto con so far.
	As far as I'm concerned, it's all a con, but Bankman Freed is just an exemplar.
	That's next here on America First, coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios.
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	Yeah, chat's definitely got things to say.
	Chime in on that one.
	Mostly agreeing with you, we got people saying... Was that alright, Geoff?
	It was good.
	Yeah, needed to be said.
	So basically the big announcement was the campaign video?
	Yes!
	Of course!
	Yeah, that is oof.
	I don't think it was though.
	You really think it was?
	Because yesterday he said the big announcement, he said everyone needs a superhero.
	That's right, he did show the same arc that was featured.
	Oh he did?
	He did that where?
	On Truth Social?
	On Truth, yeah that's a good point.
	No comment.
	Alright, Superspreader.
	Yes.
	Interview.
	Jeff.
	Legar's bugging me again.
	He told me he was setting it up.
	Let me ask him.
	We got winters here.
	Oh, title for that one as well.
	President Trump needs a serious team.
	Yeah, I gave him time yesterday.
	I'll tell them again.
	All right, angel tree.
	We'll use the children's audio, Alex, here.
	Got it.
	I'm on on continue.
	You want to tee it up or come in with it?
	Oh, I'll tee it up.
	I will tee it up.
	Natalie?
	Hello, how are you?
	Want the mics on or off?
	On.
	On.
	All right.
	And she's up.
	Natalie.
	Hello.
	How are you?
	Good.
	We don't have you on Skype today.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I know, just via phone.
	I'm running around doing a bunch of stuff.
	It's a very, very bad connection.
	You don't have a landline where you are?
	Wait, this might be better.
	Is this better?
	Keep talking.
	Testing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
	It's pretty bad.
	Can we dial her back?
	Okay.
	One minute.
	We've got her title on the Chiron as it shows up on our Twitter account.
	Okay, good.
	One minute.
	OK.
	Dropped.
	up to 50 seconds.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Well that's interesting.
	I've got a Google Alerts thing set up so whenever my name is mentioned in the media I get an email.
	According to the Google Alerts today, I didn't even know this.
	What are my lawyers doing?
	Honestly.
	Overpaid?
	According to CNN, the January 6th committee... Listen to this, Jeff.
	Listen to this, guys.
	The January 6th committee have withdrawn their phone records subpoenas related to Trump adviser Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller, and Cleta Mitchell.
	Isn't it nice of Nancy not to tell me, Jeff?
	Interesting timing, too.
	Yeah!
	I wonder why they stood down.
	What do you think?
	I gotta think about that, but that is interesting.
	Very interesting.
	I'm going to have words with my lawyers afterwards.
	I don't need to find out about this stuff through Google.
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	Okay, we talked a little bit about whatever NFTs are in the opening.
	Still don't know.
	I still think crypto is a con, but somebody who's been looking into the FTX bankman-freed fiasco is our good friend who is now, what is her title?
	Put the chyron up there.
	It's something very fancy.
	It's Steve Bannon's War Room.
	She's the co-host and executive editor, newly minted, Natalie Winters.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	Steve is very into titles, so I have him to thank for my cool title.
	No, it isn't a cool title.
	When I worked for Steve, I was a strategist to the president.
	So yeah, he's definitely into cool titles.
	As a former naval officer, that is understandable.
	So tell us, neophytes and luddites, what is it that we should know about this man who Allegedly donated $40 million to the Democrat Party in the last election.
	According to Elon Musk, it's probably closer to a billion.
	And why he's going to sit in a Bahamian jail for the next six weeks, it all sounds very strange, Natalie.
	Well, you are correct.
	It is very strange.
	But before I think we get to the strangest part of the story, which is the timing of his arrest in the Bahamas, just to kind of contextualize who exactly SBF is, not only was he obviously the founder, the chairman, everything of FTX, the cryptocurrency exchange platform, but this is someone who was the second largest donor to Democrats in the most recent election cycle.
	But beyond that, he also plowed hundreds of thousands, millions, as Elon Musk has alluded to, potentially we're talking billions of dollars, to fund other, I would say, politically adjacent initiatives, whether it was supporting Joe Biden's pandemic preparedness initiatives with media campaigns and ad buys, plowing a bunch of money into various media outlets.
	But, of course, donating primarily to Democratic candidates.
	There was also just some interesting, I would say, conflicts of interest with some of the people he had running his PACs, the Protect Our Future PACs.
	They were headquartered out in Arizona.
	They were some far-left Democratic consultants who seem to be very much in the pro-Katie Hobbs campaign.
	And there was some exchange of money from the Hobbs campaign into the accounts of these consultants who are also working on behalf of SBF.
	So basically, every race, I think it's fair to say, That went, I would say, in the direction that Republicans didn't think was going to go.
	There was some level of SBF involvement there, and part of it could have been nefarious.
	We don't know yet.
	Who knows?
	It's a flower note because it doesn't seem that these investigations, at least from the U.S.
	congressional side, are going to materialize.
	But nonetheless, even if all of the foul play was above board, which I highly doubt it was, Still, nonetheless, in a lot of these races, the money that SBF donated really helped tip the scale, especially when you had so many elements within the Republican Party, you know, stripping a lot of candidates, MAGA candidates, of their funds and funding their opponents.
	There's a lot of, I think, interest and valid interest in who exactly this SBF individual was.
	His family and his business partners, they all have ties to some people who are the current chairman of the SEC.
	The parents also run Another left-wing pact that's tied in with big tech, supporting Democrats.
	And I think just the latest example, not only really of how the rule of law is dead in the United States, which I think is something that you and I both know as someone who works for Steve, I've known that for a while.
	But it's a perfect example that SBF, when he was just hours before he was supposed to testify in front of Congress and be asked, I'm sure, very intense questions by House Republicans without his involvement, not just with Democratic candidates, but even with the Ministry of Digital Transformation in Ukraine.
	He was arrested by authorities in the Bahamas and then, of course, rendered unable to answer any of these questions specifically.
	So there's a lot of, I would say, anger and rightful anger amassed to the timing of this arrest.
	I'm going to ask you what you expect is going to come out of all of this.
	But first things first, this was a photograph I found, I believe, on your Instagram account that you need to explain to us.
	You're looking rather stunning in a pink sparkly dress, and you've got people behind you with signs saying, Bannon is a fascist!
	The global fascist!
	Where was this taken?
	So, I get it.
	Now this is why you had me on, because you wanted me to talk about this picture.
	No, it just came to me as I was talking to you, but tell us, where was this?
	So this was outside of the New York Young Republican Club annual gala that they have on the Upper East Side every year, which is a wonderful event, and the leadership over there by Gavin Wax and Bish Bura is just fantastic.
	The country would be a better place if there were more NYRCs in every state.
	But they have their annual gala, and as we were walking in, I was with some other War Room members, and there were a bunch of protesters.
	And I love a good fight as anyone who's solid by reporting.
	I'm not scared of the Chinese This is deep deep hyperbolic understatement.
	She likes a good fight for those of you who are just listening She's standing there in this, you know cocktail dress Grinning a massive grin with a thumbs up Surrounded the police are separating her with a barricade by these I don't know.
	Foul-mouthed, just hateful leftists, and she's just smiling at them.
	This is what we have to do, guys.
	So, you know, it's not just Bannon who's the honey badger.
	You have to be a honey badger like this lady.
	Follow her right now.
	Nathalie G. Winters.
	We've got 10 seconds left.
	Is Bankman Freed going to be in America, in a court, live in the next two months?
	I don't think so.
	Ooh!
	You heard it here first.
	I don't think so.
	Thank you, Natalie, for joining us today.
	Merry Christmas to you.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	That's a lot of good things about Gavin Wax and what he's doing over there. - Sorry.
	So who is that?
	He's the head of the New York YRs and he's really big on social media.
	What's his name?
	Gavin Wax.
	Gavin Wax.
	I just love the expression on her face.
	She just doesn't give a crap.
	I have the Trump cut.
	Oh, good.
	Play it.
	a trump cut oh good let me grab it it's like a minute 11.
	got it play it i gotta get it right quick here interesting So you like this guy?
	Yeah, from what I've seen.
	He's pretty solid.
	America first, pro-Trump, all the right moves.
	Okay, here...
	Play it.
	Play it.
	In recent weeks, bombshell reports have confirmed that a sinister group of deep state bureaucrats, Silicon Valley tyrants, left-wing activists... Okay, good.
	I'll use that in D. No way Bankman Freed makes it out alive.
	Makes it back to the U.S.
	Makes it back to the U.S., just put that.
	Yeah.
	Again, I think she's right.
	It's gonna be so frustrating too, because it's not like he was ready to start naming names.
	You think?
	His lawyer's really telling him, no, don't testify, don't testify, and he's like, no, I'm gonna go testify.
	I think maybe he saw the writing on the wall that they weren't going to pardon him.
	So he's like, all right, fine.
	I give you $40 million and you ain't going to do anything for me.
	I'll rat you all out, kind of thing.
	Like, petty.
	Like, I could totally see him wanting to do that.
	What a great, great thing Phil Kirpins found.
	You know how he says he's a vegan now and he can't be in prison?
	Phil Kirpins just posted this.
	Emails and text messages reveal the 30-year-old entrepreneur may have May have accidentally eaten as many as 3,000 shrimp in a menu mix-up blamed on outside food procurement.
	Because I've always eaten 3,000 shrimp by accident.
	Haven't you?
	In prison, no less.
	No, no, no!
	Before prison, because it's BS that he's vegan.
	Right?
	He's trying to cover his tracks because he wants to get out of prison.
	Pretty sure you would know from the texture, the taste.
	Yeah, accidental shrimp.
	Oh, this, this, this.
	Vegans aren't that fat.
	Exactly.
	veganism.
	Why are people obsessed that Biden has a body double?
	Oh, what's the chat saying?
	So earlier about the NFT stuff, one person was just saying, What's going on with Trump's team?
	It makes him look unserious.
	The poor decision makes people doubt Trump's ability to discern.
	Someone trusted really needs to start filtering the friends list.
	First Kanye, now NFT launch on the day of policy announcement.
	DeSantis should launch one, see who sells the most.
	that's good 30 seconds
	uh so the
	antidote to fake news a America First.
	I'm so curious.
	It's so weird to be a subject of the news.
	Why did Nancy cave?
	That's so funny.
	Why did she give up on the subpoena of my phone records and Stephen Miller's?
	Oh!
	Nancy!
	Um... Got a great cut from her, by the way.
	Cut one.
	This is hilarious.
	This is, um... Showing the inner Nance, I guess.
	Cut one.
	What is this?
	Don't bother me with a question like that.
	Really.
	Really.
	Okay?
	Is that what I'm going to do?
	bother me with a question like that.
	Really?
	Really?
	Okay?
	Is that what I'm going to do?
	Those kind of questions are such a waste of my time.
	Well, that was putting down a bit at the front.
	Let's play that again because you get to see Nancy, the real Nancy.
	How dare you?
	I'm the Queen!
	How dare you ask me a question like that?
	Don't waste my time!
	Don't you know who I am?
	Play it again.
	Will you commit to serving your full two-year term for the people of San Francisco?
	What is this?
	What is this?
	Don't bother me with a question like that.
	Really.
	Really.
	Okay?
	It doesn't matter what I'm going to do.
	Yeah.
	Those kind of questions are such a waste of my time.
	And of course, what's the pin she's wearing?
	Did you catch the pin, guys, what she's wearing?
	American flag and Ukrainian flag.
	Yeah, that's the former Speaker of the House.
	All right, we're going to go to your calls momentarily.
	The number is 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
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	That jacket looked a little bit unsculpted to me.
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	Let's go to Klaus in California.
	Hey, Sebastian Gorka.
	I got your book, The War for America's Soul, and I'm going to crack it open and start reading.
	OK, I'm a little PO'd at Trump and his team for releasing this NFT announcement prior to something that's truly seismic and important to this country.
	Yeah.
	And also with, you know, previously it was Kanye bringing Nick Fuentes over.
	He's just surrounded by people that are going to take advantage of him and therefore take advantage of us, because he likes being pumped up.
	It's who Trump is, and that's fine.
	But if he's surrounded by people that are going to take advantage of him, we're all screwed.
	And I think people who want to trust Trump and want him for a third time, let's be real, are going to look at this and be like, I can't afford a 99% Yeah, but he's not saying everybody has to buy one.
	That's for people who believe in NFTs and want to invest in them.
	So let's not confuse things.
	Let's talk about the brass tacks.
	Let's talk about the real issues.
	Two years is an absolute lifetime in politics.
	So he can win.
	That's absolutely indisputable.
	As the man who got the most votes, more votes than any other incumbent president, this is eminently doable.
	But he has to have a team of serious people.
	Now the left have been incredibly successful.
	I mean, one of the most successful things the left have ever done in the last hundred years is to make sure decent people do not even consider for a second working for a Republican administration that actually represents the American people.
	I don't mean RINOs.
	I don't mean a McCain or Romney administration.
	I mean a real America First administration.
	So people are disincentivized.
	But there are a handful of people.
	Just imagine if, you know, the bridges could be rebuilt between Steve Bannon and President Trump.
	That we could actually see him, remember, Steve brought the President back from 16 points down off the Billy Bush tapes And he won that election, so it can be done.
	But I want to see, right now, two years is a long time, I get it, but I want to see serious people around him.
	I want to see a chief of staff who we've heard of, like a Joe DiGenova, like Mayor Giuliani.
	Serious, hardcore people who are political killers, who know how the swamp works, who know how he will be undermined every single step of the way.
	We need to see signs of that now.
	Right now.
	People like, oh, is he going to be on the show today?
	Yeah.
	Kash Patel.
	That would be interesting.
	Imagine if Kash Patel were the President's Chief of Staff.
	I may have to float that with him later today.
	Thank you, Klaus, for your call.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Yeah, chat agreeing on the cash thing.
	That's just a great way to start.
	It's just like, name the people who absolutely could do it.
	I think cash would be good.
	Cash would be good.
	Maybe a certain radio host.
	There's people, it's just...
	Bodgino should be like his, uh, what should he be like?
	Secretary of DHS.
	That'd be fun.
	That'd be fun.
	I would put Tom Holman back in ice or give him something else immigration-related.
	Hmm.
	What about Nunes?
	You give Nunes a spot.
	Yeah, if he's prepared to.
	Assuming, yeah.
	Assuming he doesn't stay with truth.
	We have Patriot Mobile here.
	Yes.
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	Are we missing any guests for tonight, Newsmax?
	Thanks.
	No, we're good.
	I do love it when people announce that they won't do a panel, don't you, Geoff?
	Yeah, I was a little surprised by that.
	It's like, yeah, really?
	What are you, like the Queen of England?
	Really?
	Well, if you look at what they spent, she's basically running to be that.
	On private jets and the meals and stuff and private boxes.
	Who?
	The RNC.
	Oh, yes.
	I thought it wasn't a big deal, because I'm like, this must be fundraisers and stuff, whatever you're doing it.
	But a lot of it was retreats, like for themselves.
	Retreats.
	Like the box at the Las Vegas Raiders game, which is ridiculous.
	It was a retreat.
	First class tickets for all of them.
	Unbelievable.
	And again, it's terrifying to think that she could still win.
	Harmeet's got a good shot, but... Yeah, she does.
	It's an uphill battle there.
	Uphill battle.
	Such an insider's game.
	Realistically, if Rona wins again, then... We know the RNC won't pick up ballot harvesting.
	At that point, we basically kiss 2024 goodbye.
	Unless the campaign starts the ballot harvesting.
	I do love your optimism.
	It always cheers me up.
	Ah.
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	Puts me in a good mood.
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	All right, what should we be talking about instead of stupid NFTs and stuff like that?
	The President, President Trump's announcement on the First Amendment, which is his first policy platform for his second administration.
	The video dropped this morning.
	You can see the whole seven minutes On my Twitter, Instagram, Truth Social pages, please.
	After the show, and after I've been on Steve Bannon's show, you can watch the whole seven minutes.
	But here's a little clip just to tell you what we should be focusing on today.
	Here's part of the big announcement.
	In recent weeks, bombshell reports have confirmed that a sinister group of deep state bureaucrats, Silicon Valley tyrants, left-wing activists, and depraved corporate news media have been conspiring to manipulate and silence the American people.
	They have collaborated to suppress vital information on everything from elections to public health.
	The censorship cartel must be dismantled and destroyed, and it must happen immediately.
	And here is my plan.
	First, within hours of my inauguration, I will sign an executive order banning any federal department or agency from colluding with any organization, business, or person to censor, limit, categorize, or impede the lawful speech of American citizens.
	I will then ban federal money from being used to label domestic speech as mis- or dis-information.
	And I will begin the process of identifying and firing every federal bureaucrat who has engaged in domestic censorship, directly or indirectly, whether they are the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Health, Human Services, the FBI, the DOJ, no matter who they are.
	That's the Donald Trump I know.
	That's the 45th President of the United States, and it's up to us to try and get him back in the swamp, to make those things happen, to make sure our government isn't colluding to control information with big tech, and that there are consequences for those who use social media to incite violence against the duly elected, nominated and confirmed members of, for example, the Supreme Court.
	If you didn't see it, This is a viral video.
	It's from a woman who doesn't like President Trump.
	That's okay.
	Nancy Mace of South Carolina showed how you deal with the left-wing extremists who exploit social media.
	There is a man who pretends to be a woman called Alejandro Caraballo who's a trans activist who was invited by the Democrats to a session on Extremism on the Internet.
	Nancy Mace, Congresswoman from South Carolina.
	Well, let's just say it was delicious to behold.
	Cut nine.
	This is how you do it.
	That rhetoric targeting officials with violence for carrying out their constitutional duties is a threat to democracy.
	Mr. Ward.
	Mr. Siegel.
	Yes.
	All right, thank you very much.
	Only a few weeks after the attempted attack on a Supreme Court justice on June 25th, one of the witnesses, Alejandra Caraballo, tweeted out the following in response to a decision on abortion overturning Roe v. Wade, and I'll quote directly from the tweet, the six justices who overturned Roe should never know peace again.
	It is our civic duty to accost them every time they're in public.
	They are pariahs.
	Since women don't have their rights, these justices should never have a peaceful moment in public again.
	I know something about being accosted the night of January 5th.
	I was physically accosted on the streets of DC in Navy Yard by a constituent of mine.
	I fervently blamed rhetoric, rhetoric on social media, rhetoric at public events, for being physically accosted.
	I carry a gun everywhere I go when I am in my district and I'm at home because I know personally That rhetoric has consequences.
	I've had my car keyed.
	I've had my house spray-painted.
	I had someone trespass in my house as recently as August.
	I've been doxed on social media about where I live.
	And I've had to add to security everywhere I go.
	Often, because I can't afford it, I have to carry my own firearm wherever I go.
	And Alejandra Caraballo also recently tweeted on November 19th, not even a month ago, that the Supreme Court vested with the judicial power of the United States by our Constitution stated they are not a legitimate court issuing decisions.
	And also the Supreme Court is an organ of the far right.
	So my last question today of Ms.
	Caraballo, do you stand by these comments, this kind of rhetoric on social media, and do you believe it's a threat to democracy?
	Thank you, Representative, for the opportunity to clarify and provide context to my tweets.
	I have a question, is it yes or no?
	Do you believe your rhetoric is a threat to democracy when you're calling to accost a branch of government, the Supreme Court?
	I don't believe that's a correct characterization of my statements.
	Did you not tweet that?
	That you thought that the Supreme Court justices should be accosted?
	That's how you do it.
	Because you force them to take responsibility for their own words or lie in public on camera.
	That's not the context.
	What is the context of a cost Supreme Court justices?
	I may not agree with you on impeachment or President Trump, but nicely done, Nancy Mace.
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	another interesting suggestion in chat for someone who should be on president trump's team second term carrie lake oh Oh totally, I've said that already.
	I think she'd be a great press secretary.
	Forget about the team, it's the campaign.
	What do you mean?
	You need a few solid people now, before you're putting together a team.
	You know what I mean?
	To run his campaign.
	Like, what, half a dozen at most?
	Well, to run the whole operation.
	Yeah, these are good.
	Alright, so we've got Carrie, we've got Cash, who else did we say?
	Bannon.
	Bannon and Joe, and Jennifer.
	Alright, I need the chat to keep sending me names.
	Alright, chat?
	Please, chat.
	Names.
	I'll tell you who they need.
	Who?
	What's the guy that we had in here that was registering all those people?
	Oh, Pressler.
	He's got a Pressler.
	Scott Pressler?
	Yeah.
	Did you see what he wrote in October?
	No.
	Oh boy.
	He wrote... He called in.
	The red wave is not coming.
	He says it is in Florida, in Ohio, in Texas.
	He says, I'm out registering everywhere.
	The RNC's not doing enough in all the other states.
	Let's get him back.
	And he's got a plan he said he's come up with for mail-in ballots.
	Let's get him back.
	Definitely.
	He's had some health issues, but let's get him back by Skype.
	Alright.
	Block the lines.
	Block the lines.
	35 seconds. 35 seconds.
	35 seconds.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	You don't say, not on this show.
	Um, Jeff, who is Jerome Powell?
	Isn't he like somebody important?
	Yeah, he's pretty important with the Fed.
	Right, he's either what, does he like make the coffee there or what?
	He's supposed to be the head of it.
	You mean the chairman?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	How do you tank a market if you're the chairman of the Fed and you say this?
	Yes, Jerome Powell just said this.
	Cut seven.
	I don't think anyone knows whether we're going to have a recession or not.
	And if we do, whether it's going to be a deep one or not.
	It's just, it's not knowable.
	Not knowable?
	What do you mean it's not knowable?
	When you shut down energy production in America, when you say no more leases for drilling on federal land, when you open the border to illegal immigrants to the tune of millions and millions, when you print money like it's going out of style, you're seriously telling me you can't know if a recession is coming if you have 9.1% inflation?
	Where do they find these people?
	Stunning.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
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	Dr. G, happy Thursday.
	Happy Thursday.
	Merry Christmas.
	Merry Christmas to you too.
	Hey, I have a great idea for a t-shirt.
	And it's basically the Department of Justice logo.
	Yep.
	And in the center is a circle with the eagle and a shield.
	Remove that and overlay the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
	And the circle will say Department of Judas.
	And there's an image of Merrick Garland putting a dagger into those two documents.
	And they're bleeding from the center.
	That's pretty heavy duty.
	The Department of Judas.
	Hmm.
	The trouble is with that is that In reality, Merrick Garland's just a meat puppet.
	He's a nobody.
	He's a pathetic little fake man.
	The people who are really running it are, for example, the deputy AG like Lisa Monaco.
	So it's putting the blame not exactly where it should go.
	But I like your vivid imagery.
	Thank you, Paul.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's get Paul a signed copy of Defeating Jihad if you want.
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	We'll be back with Cash Patel.
	Cash Patel
	Is there gambling in this casino?
	I'm shocked.
	What does it all mean?
	Can we stop them?
	Are our First Amendment rights under assault yet?
	Today, we'll talk to former Deputy Director of National Intelligence, none other than Kash Patel, Hour 2, America First.
	Thank you.
	Is he up?
	Alright, Eric, I'm going to ask you to talk about people who are listed on the thing.
	Don't mention Cash's name.
	name.
	He's not able to hear us.
	Don't mention Cash's name.
	Just pull this of people from the local track.
	See ya.
	No, I'm trying to back.
	10 seconds.
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump. - Okay.
	I really thought we could forget about that dipsomaniac John Boehner.
	Didn't he, like, disappear?
	John Boehner's doing... What's he doing now, Eric?
	He's doing, like... He's a dope salesman, isn't he?
	He's a lobbyist for hash growers, isn't he?
	I thought maybe he was just a cigarette spokesman.
	Jeff, isn't that what he's doing?
	Isn't he like a cannabis guy now?
	He's big into that.
	It's been for a long time now he's doing that.
	Well, maybe the cannabis is getting him a little bit too emotional.
	This is John Boehner.
	What was this, Jeff?
	This was the unveiling of Nancy's portrait or something?
	Oh, yeah.
	It was a big historic day yesterday.
	Oh my God.
	Is that going to be put in the same closet with all the Democrat Confederate generals they took out of Congress?
	Maybe.
	We should get it removed.
	Let's get it removed the day after it's been put up.
	Alright, this is John Boehner, who I think was a Republican for a couple of minutes, crying, crying at the unveiling of Nancy Pelosi's portrait.
	It's unreal.
	Cut to.
	And the fact of the matter is, no other Speaker of the House in the modern era, Republican or Democrat, has wielded the gavel with such authority or with such consistent results.
	Let me just say, you're one tough cookie.
	Oh my God, I'm so emotional.
	Unbelievable.
	Is he a grown man?
	That's Nancy Pelosi.
	One of the most wicked, cynical politicians in modern American history.
	And you're a Republican?
	And you're crying at the unveiling of her portrait?
	All right, let's get back down to serious business.
	We are choosing members of the Trump team because things are a little bit skew-whiff, as they say at Mar-a-Lago, declaring that NFT thing on the same day as his amazing video on the First Amendment.
	We need to get a grip on that team.
	We need a serious chief of staff.
	Let's talk about all of these things and Elon Musk with our buddy.
	He's Kash Patel, former deputy Director of National Intelligence, former Chief Investigator on the Hill for Intelligence.
	We're going to talk about Musk on Twitter and everything you're doing.
	Fight with Cash.
	He's got his cool hoodie on.
	He's got a Cash hat.
	Look at that.
	Merry Christmas to you, Cash.
	But we're going through our viewers on Rumble, all the people that we need to build around President Trump as a team, because he's lacking some of the heavyweights.
	So we've got Banner Needs to Come Back, Joe DiGenoa, Carrie Lake, maybe Scott Pressler to do kind of grassroots stuff.
	What else on Rumble, Eric?
	Give me some names.
	The Rumble chat really came through.
	Some people suggested our buddy Dan Bongino for DHS.
	Dan Bongino, I love it.
	Rudy Giuliani for Attorney General.
	Rudy for AG.
	And then names without positions attached to them.
	Sheriff Mark Lamb.
	We do love Sheriff Lamb.
	All right, the only problem we have, I'm going to start working on this kind of campaign future cabinet list.
	The only issue is he needs a really heavy hitter chief of staff right now.
	And I was thinking, um, Kash Vettel would be great.
	What do you think, Kash?
	Are you up for it?
	Oh, oh, oh, what's going on?
	He's taking some of that helium from a balloon.
	He's speaking rather, rather high-pitched.
	I do believe that is the Skype connection.
	Let's dial him back.
	Oh, get him on a phone.
	Get him on a cell phone.
	Call him right now, because I need to know if Kash Patel is going to be the President's Chief of Staff.
	He was Chief of Staff Of all the names!
	You forgot one!
	I believe they actually created that position for him.
	It was newly created.
	So if he can run the Pentagon, I think he could probably run President Trump's campaign.
	Cash, are you up for it?
	I'm upset.
	I said of all the names, you forgot one.
	What?
	Seb Gorka.
	Nah.
	There's only one job that I would do in the Trump administration, and that would be, and maybe you can tell the boss, I would love to be ambassador to the UN so I could dismantle it.
	All Oh my god, that's the best idea I've heard all month next to this free speech thing.
	Wouldn't that be fun?
	Could you imagine their faces when I stepped into the headquarters in New York?
	It would be like, you know, Beelzebub stepping into a church.
	It would like catch on flames.
	No, I'm not kidding.
	That's going in the book.
	We're doing that.
	Oh dear, I'm in trouble now.
	He says it's going in the book.
	Alright Cash, we'll talk offline about the team the President needs.
	Let's have a little bit of fun.
	We're going to talk Twitter files, collusion between the IC and Palo Alto.
	This is a delicious clip from CNN with Don Lemon and Oliver Darcy and they're crying that they didn't get the Twitter files.
	Cut eight, play cut.
	I think a lot of the Twitter files, I mean, more transparency is great.
	I think Dhoni and I would have loved to receive a cache of files exposing or revealing our emails.
	I think the problem here though is that Elon Musk is effectively serving as a gatekeeper for this information.
	He is not giving it to newsrooms.
	He is giving it to hand-picked journalists who are then agreeing to the condition, at least one condition, of tweeting out the files instead of posting the news stories.
	So I think that's... That's not the spirit of free speech.
	No, it's not.
	Cash, how dare he not give these files to CNN?
	You know, Seb, you and I are probably never going to agree with any of the wranglers that CNN has and the fake news hucksters.
	But I've been saying from day one, I think you and Steve Bannon have been also saying it.
	Look, it's great that he's given all this stuff, Elon, that is, but I've always said all roads lead to Russiagate, and him not giving us the documents we know exist.
	The critical ones.
	The communications between the FBI and these clowns at Twitter.
	These un-American, actually, criminals, as I call them.
	The Roths, the Vijay Gads and company.
	We know for a fact they were having weekly meetings.
	We know FBI told them That type of practice is illegal.
	Why is he not releasing those communications we know exist in email memorandum?
	I got into some, I got into a little bit of, who was it?
	The Daily Mail.
	The Daily Mail put me in a headline with Elon Musk and Hunter Biden two weeks ago because I said on the first drop of Twitter files, I said, big whoop, you know, the DNC is colluding with Twitter.
	This ain't news.
	I want to see some smoking guns.
	So it sounds like you agree with me.
	A hundred percent.
	I said, look, you were in government long enough.
	You know that this is a sort of drip, drip release for someone who wants to craft a narrative.
	That's what Adam Schiff does.
	That's what the Washington Post does.
	Elon has this platform and opportunity.
	I said, you know this better than anyone in media.
	He's got a small window before everyone stops caring anymore.
	And for whatever reason, after I called him out on James Baker personally, and he fired him two later, then I called him out personally on Perkins Coon, he said they're not a lawyer.
	Then I gave him the receipt showing them they're still the lawyers.
	He's either completely misinformed with the guys around him, Yes!
	like we're talking about putting around great people around Donald Trump, Elon Musk.
	And also remember, Elon Musk in October said he had full faith in Yoel Rock.
	Yes.
	The guy who's running around basically being a pedophile and bucking us on censorship.
	So he needs to put out the FBI files immediately.
	Otherwise, this is just another mirage in terms of transparency and his attempt to have a free speech platform.
	I got so many questions.
	I want to keep you over in the break on Rumble just to ask you a couple of questions, but one we need to do is we're broadcasting on radio.
	Here, I was on that Twitter Spaces with Elon last weekend, and I said the only question that matters right now after drop three, does anybody, Cash, believe That James Baker, former chief counsel to the FBI, who was scrubbing the Twitter files before they were given to Matt Taibbi.
	Does anybody really believe he wasn't doing it under the orders of the FBI?
	Or in collusion with them!
	Yes!
	They'll say, oh, no one orders me.
	But this is the guy.
	And let's just... I need 30 seconds here.
	Yeah.
	The chief Russiagate architect.
	I was at DOJ with this guy.
	He's known as the FISA guru.
	He wrote and authorized the Russiagate warrant wiretap on Donald Trump and his crew.
	This guy received the information from his pal, Michael Sussman.
	This is the guy that Sussman went to at the DOJ and the FBI.
	And where to believe this guy's not talking to his pals at the FBI while calling the balls and strikes at Twitter?
	Elon, where are those emails?
	Where are those letters?
	Where are those files?
	Why won't you put those out?
	I know they exist, Seth, and so do you.
	And the extent of collusion This is the important discussion.
	is about why Donald Trump...
	We know you censored Donald Trump.
	Everyone knows that.
	I didn't need proof.
	And I don't need the algorithm.
	I need the government.
	Thanks for his son on black.
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	Yeah.
	Alright, we've got three minutes in the break and then I'll let you go.
	Look, what you just said was the most important thing.
	I don't get it why other people aren't saying it.
	Have you been blowing this trumpet on Steve's show?
	Oh, every other day.
	Okay.
	And I go deep on it, but here's the thing.
	You and his show are the only people where it tracks Because everybody's just like, wow, Elon's the best.
	Look at what he's doing.
	He's not doing anything.
	So what do you think this is doing?
	Is this like a kind of look over here, shiny object distraction, and then he'll just drop it?
	Exactly.
	He'll be like, no, I released all of this stuff.
	And the mainstream media is going to be like, oh, wow, look at the amount of files he released.
	And then we're going to have these guys on Capitol Hill.
	And listen, The other thing I've been saying, and I'll say this when we come back.
	No, we've got to go to another guest.
	So you're live on Rumble now.
	That's why I kept you over.
	So we've only got three minutes with you left.
	Say it now.
	Look, if Elon doesn't do this, then remember, we won the House of Representatives.
	And everyone in a position on a committee must send subpoenas.
	Not just for the Roths and the Jay Gads of the world, but for all the documents that FBI is holding.
	That is a congressional subpoena.
	They taught us the power of those.
	Here's my take, but you are the guy who was at DNI, so it's far more credible coming from you.
	up in FOIAs yesterday.
	All of these communications between James Baker and company and FBI, they're not classified.
	There's no national security exemption.
	Let's get the FOIA machine going.
	If they're not going to get them for us, then we're going to get them ourselves.
	Here's my take, but you are the guy who was at DNI, so it's far more credible coming from you.
	Weekly meetings with CIA, FBI, DHS, DNI, you only do that if you have concrete criminal activity and subject matter experts who are helping you uncover criminal activity or terrorist activity.
	I Am I crazy?
	No.
	You know how the law works.
	That's what you're supposed to do.
	Okay.
	So the idea that they're just having regular meetings on information policy, that all of that should be FOIAed?
	Exactly.
	And the letters.
	Not just the schedules, but the letters and the memos.
	Those are not classified.
	There are two national security exceptions to FOIA.
	Neither apply here.
	And why isn't the machine going, I'm going to call Tom Fitton a judicial watch to get this thing cranked up.
	I already talked to John Solomon about it at Just the News.
	These are some of the best foyer games we have in the country, but we gotta crank.
	That's a 30-day lift minimum.
	Alright, this is so important.
	Do you have time, do you have any time tomorrow for a longer chat?
	Oh yeah, just sort it out.
	I'm basically, during the day, I'm available.
	Okay, Jeff, we need to continue this discussion.
	This is so important.
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	Stuff your stockings in your Christmas tree, Seb Gorka.
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	Go there right now and follow him.
	He's got a very, very difficult truth social account.
	It's called Cash.
	Cash with a K. God bless you, buddy.
	Talk to you tomorrow.
	Thank you.
	That was superb.
	Thanks so much.
	Thanks.
	Bye.
	See?
	I'm not crazy!
	Right?
	You're supposed to say, no, Sebastian, you're not crazy.
	And D. Oh, Dr. Good.
	How are you, buddy?
	Good.
	Wow, you've got a hard act to follow.
	10 seconds then.
	10 seconds then.
	Constitution, America first.
	What do you think of that, Eric?
	That segment and then the chat in the break, wasn't that like, that was paid to...
	That was absolutely, those are the kind of conversations that we need to have every single day on this show, all the way up until 2024.
	And it's like one guy, it's Kash Patel saying it.
	Where's the real smoking gun, Elon?
	We want to see it.
	Alright, next up, somebody who is the best political mind I have ever worked with.
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	He was my office buddy.
	I could just bang on the wall next door and we'd have a chat.
	He is a GOP strategist extraordinaire.
	Andy Sarabian.
	Welcome back to America First.
	It's been too long.
	Thanks so much for having me today, Seb.
	Alright, we're going to exploit you mercilessly for two segments.
	We're going to talk about Elon, social media, what the heck happened at Mar-a-Lago today.
	But first things first, I've been bugging you since the midterms to get you on the show.
	You went on some, I don't know, honeymoon or something irrelevant like that.
	Andy, what really happened?
	You were in the SIG with me, with Steve Bannon.
	You understood the jigsaw puzzle of American politics.
	Was the red wave expectation crazy?
	Was it the fact that we were out-organized in terms of ballot harvesting?
	I want Andes.
	You said at the time, it's too early to say, give me your best analysis of what happened.
	I think Republicans need to open their eyes and understand two fundamental things.
	And until we do these two things, I fear we're going to have more results like the results we saw in November.
	Number one, I do think that we have to grapple with the fact that the left has built a ballot harvesting operation that we simply cannot compete with.
	And we need... Look, my belief is very simple.
	Fight ballot harvesting.
	Unlimited mail-in balloting in any state where we can fight it.
	But in states where we lose that fight, we have to do our best to compete.
	Now, look, we will still be at a fundamental disadvantage.
	And this is one thing that I think a lot of people lose sight of, unfortunately.
	The reason we'll still be at a fundamental disadvantage, even if we do triple down on ballot harvesting, is because, look, Democrat voters are mainly in the city.
	They're heavily compacted.
	They can go apartment complex to apartment complex.
	It's geography, right?
	It's geography.
	Yeah.
	Our voters are in the suburbs and rural areas.
	So even if we do get better at ballot harvesting, even if we do double down, we're still going to be at a fundamental disadvantage.
	But we do have to do something on that end.
	We can't just say, let the other side ballot harvest, let the other side bank early voting and just hope for good weather.
	I mean, look at Nevada.
	I mean, that was a state where most polls had Adam Laxalt leading throughout the cycle, right?
	What happened on Election Day?
	There was a gigantic storm.
	I got pictures sent to me that day.
	Gigantic storm in the rural part of the state, where, by the way, Adam Laxalt needed to overperform to win.
	And I think that's one of the reasons he ended up falling short, is because there were bad weather conditions.
	And Mastow's voters, the Democrats' voters, are already voting for her.
	So that's one ask.
	But let me just, as a footnote to that one, there's also a lack of infrastructure.
	So we don't have the infrastructure that the Zuckerbucks and the Democrats in Philly and Atlanta have built for the last 50 years.
	We'd have to build it, wouldn't we?
	This is such a good point, Seb.
	We do not have right-leaning NGOs.
	Funneling billions of dollars into Republican areas of the country, which is a game the other side plays.
	It's all supposedly nonpartisan because they can write it off as charity work, but we all know they focus on Democrat areas and that's how, you know, they're registering voters.
	Look, there was, I think, tied to this is, and I know this was an issue in Nevada and I think was an issue in other places, I think Republican Republican strategists, the strategist class, a lot of them made a decision that all we have to do is motivate our people to turn out and we can win.
	There wasn't enough effort put to persuasion.
	And look, motivation, turning voters out is the most important part.
	But we can't just say we're not going to try to persuade anyone to.
	Well, this is the point.
	It's like if you asked me before the midterms, you know, a week before the midterms, what is the GOP policy on abortion?
	Me, as a conservative radio show host, I couldn't tell you.
	Look, look, you can't run a national election without having a message.
	You can't just say the other side is bad.
	Vote for us.
	You have to give these people a reason to vote for us.
	Okay?
	Vote for us, because if you vote for us, we're going to seal up the border.
	Give me a message, and I think our side relied too much on two things.
	Biden is bad, because they were looking at his favorability numbers, and they were in the tank.
	Right?
	Biden is bad, and inflation is hurting people.
	Oh.
	What happened there?
	We lost him.
	He got a little bit excited.
	That's why he is the brightest mind when it comes to campaigns in the United States.
	I'm going to ask him, is the RNC capable of even building that infrastructure?
	We're going to have Harmeet Dhillon.
	Yeah, you know who's running against Rona tonight because I'm guest hosting.
	I always forget to do this.
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	The number one show on Newsmax.
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	You've got to catch it tonight because we're going to be asking somebody who could potentially fix these things if she becomes the new chairperson of the RNC because we need to build that infrastructure.
	Who's gonna Who's going to do the ballot harvesting in those states where we can't stop it and where it's legal?
	Somebody's going to have to build that machinery.
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	Um... Meantime, real quick.
	Titles.
	Um... Cash.
	For the cash, we wanted to include the break as well.
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	So for cash and... He's back on the line.
	What Elon Musk... Is Elon Musk hiding these emails?
	Is Elon Musk hiding these emails?
	Okay, um... Give me Andy.
	Andy?
	Hey, that's... Sorry.
	Hey, um... Do you think that Halmeet has a shot?
	Um, are we live right now?
	Oh, we are.
	Look, I think it's I think it's a uphill battle.
	I think it's tough.
	I and look, I'm a fan of her me I like her a lot.
	I do just think it's tough.
	Remember, we aren't dealing Look, if it was a vote, a public vote.
	Yeah.
	A different story.
	We're talking about a private vote with So if Rona's there, is there any way that the RNC is going to build that machinery we need for harvesting?
	Look, I think if the donors want it to happen, which I do think they do at this point, I think we can.
	I also think that people have a habit of overstating the importance of the RNC or the DNC.
	They're really not as important as I think a lot of activists assume they might be.
	And what's really important was kind of what we were talking about before I got dropped, is look, we need Republican donors, the Republican donor class, to start investing Yeah.
	and voter registration and ballot harvesting.
	That's what we need.
	We need outside entities to come in.
	That is the difference.
	It's not the RNC. - But name me one organization that even has the capacity to build that. - Well, I think there were a lot of talented people on the right, even if the current organization doesn't exist today, that would have the capacity The problem is always funding.
	And I think donors would get more bang for their buck by supporting entities that are doing that early on versus entities that are just going to spend on TV.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Eric, do you have the poll buffer?
	Yes.
	Can you just show it to me?
	30 seconds and then we'll be back for about 6 minutes and I'll let you go.
	Cool.
	On screen now.
	Or it was a moment ago.
	Show team guy, expression two, please.
	Thank you.
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	With none other than my former White House colleague in the Strategic Initiatives Group.
	He's Andy Sarabian.
	You can follow him at Sarabies.
	That's on Twitter.
	S-U-R-A-B-E-E-S.
	That's S-U-R-A-B-E-S.
	Andy, I opened the show today saying...
	There need to be some serious people around the president, and I say this as completely America First and MAGA, that on the day he launches his most important policy statement since declaring his candidacy on the First Amendment, a seven minute video that most people have not even heard of because it was drowned out by the NFT announcement.
	Are you concerned when it comes to personnel that we're not building the right team for MAGA 2024?
	Look, I think personnel, and you and I both lived through this early on in the White House, has always been an Achilles heel.
	I do think it has gotten better.
	I do think it's always getting better.
	You also have to remember that he's still in the initial stages of the campaign, so he's just starting to build out his team.
	So I expect some of this stuff to come into a lot clearer focus as we get into the New Year.
	him to be a lot more.
	I mean, we are over, you know, we're two years out here.
	But he needs a kind of Bannon level heavy hitter.
	He needs a kind of Cash Patel to be running things right now, doesn't he?
	I mean, look, he actually has some impressive people involved.
	I mean, one, Cash Patel, Rick Ronell are very close to him and always talking with him.
	And Chris Lasavita is a heavyweight strategist who he brought on.
	He has a good, he has some good people around him.
	I think once we get into the new year, you'll see him very, very laser focused on the issues.
	And look, that free speech video, You put out today, I agree with you.
	It was probably the single best policy video I have seen from President Trump in a long, long time.
	And we need more of that.
	That's what America First wants to be seeing.
	It was a simply understood, a clearly laid out, practical policy agenda.
	It wasn't just saying Big Tech is bad, we need free speech.
	No, it was concrete.
	It was saying what we need to do.
	He laid out a concrete policy plan in a way that I haven't seen a single other.
	Right.
	But it needn't have been drowned out by some idea that a business partner of his came up with for trading cards.
	So that's what I'm worried about.
	Somebody should have said, no, you don't get to do that today.
	We've got something much more important coming up.
	We always know there's the duality between Trump, the candidate, Trump's a politician and Trump's a businessman and there's always going to be the businessman side.
	Alright, that's absolutely fair.
	30 seconds left.
	We had a very iconoclastic take from Cash Patel on where's the real meat, where's the beef from Elon Musk just a few minutes ago.
	Are you excited about what you've seen in the last three weeks coming out of Palo Alto and Elon Musk's office?
	30 seconds.
	I mean, look, look, I'm excited.
	I agree with Cash that there's certainly more.
	I'm excited to see anything.
	We were getting nothing.
	They were denying.
	They were calling it a conspiracy theory that they were engaged in censorship.
	They were calling it a conspiracy theory that the government was directing any of the censorship.
	Look, we need investigations, and I believe we're going to get investigations like this from the House Republicans, looking into Yes.
	particularly any government-directed censorship.
	That is an affront to the First Amendment.
	It was clearly happening.
	And they need to subpoena that Roth guy who is running the censorship program.
	Mr. Safety.
	And I think it's going to get very, very hot under the collar for all of those people when the COVID files are dropped, the Fowtree files.
	All right, welcome back, dear friend.
	It's been far too long.
	You deserve that little vacay with your lovely lady, but we need you on this show with some more regularity.
	He's Andy Sarabian, a good guy, a guy that really should be working.
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	Okay.
	I don't know if you can put them in one buffer or just four buffers.
	It would have to be four different ones.
	All right.
	I'm going to send them to you now and they're for the next guest.
	Yes.
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	Yep.
	And... I want the simple one first, and the one with the actual hand second.
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	Yes, hello, how are you?
	Good, good.
	We're gonna talk braces, okay?
	Okay, alright, I'm good for that.
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	All right, it's not Friday when we usually talk Second Amendment, but there's so much happening.
	The ATF has allegedly sent documentation to the White House to turn millions of Americans into felons overnight.
	Is it going to happen?
	Let's talk to one of the organizations that's fighting back.
	He is a regular guest here, Aidan Johnston.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much for having me on.
	All right.
	So you are the Director of Federal Affairs for the Gun Owners of America, gunowners.org.
	And there is a product tens of millions of Americans own, me included.
	It's called a pistol brace.
	Let's put an image up on the screen.
	It is a piece of plastic.
	That's what it looks like.
	A piece of plastic or plastic and rubber that you put on the end of a pistol like an AR-15 pistol to do what?
	Let's show our viewers who are watching to brace that weapon against your forearm to make it more stable.
	It was designed for Veterans who were injured in service to help them shoot safely on the range.
	Is it true, Aiden, that the Biden administration wants to ban these or put them on the ATF registry?
	Absolutely.
	So unfortunately, without the passage of a new law, the Biden administration is weaponizing existing regulations to say that the owners of up to 40 million of these pistols with braces equipped are illegal.
	You're going to have to turn them in, or destroy them, or register them with the federal government, or else you'll become a felon subject to 10 years in a federal prison and a $250,000 fine per gun that you own.
	This is a total infringement on the Second Amendment.
	This is something that people have been buying for about the last decade because the ATF approved it almost 10 years ago.
	So imagine 10 years of this being sold at your local gun store, Biden comes along, gets elected to the White House, And all of a sudden, this is illegal and you are a felon.
	So we've heard different things because, of course, there's no transparency in the administration that promised us to be the most transparent administration ever.
	Originally, the ATF recommended some kind of point system, an absurd point system.
	You counted up the points that your weapon had, which basically would have banned any weapon with a brace on it.
	Then we heard it's just going to be an outright banning or amnesty or you're going to have to register them.
	What's the latest?
	What are gun owners of America hearing?
	What is the latest unconstitutional recommendation from the ATF?
	So this has been a process, and the ATF has proposed numerous different unconstitutional ways of handling it.
	Right now, we don't know what the final rule will be.
	The latest admission from insider sources at the ATF is that the final draft has been sent to the White House, but no one has seen it yet.
	You're right that the last thing they came up with was a point system based on up to almost 50 different criteria.
	I'll tell you there's only two things in the federal statute that says how long, what's the overall length of your gun, and how long is the barrel, and your gun either has to be registered or not registered, depending on if it's too short.
	That's unconstitutional to begin with, but there's certainly no point system with 50 different criteria in the federal law.
	So everything that the ATF is doing at every step in this process is unconstitutional and that's why we're going to take them to court as soon as we get that final draft.
	So what happens now?
	So should our listeners, you're talking to millions of people, gun owners across America right now, allegedly one of the biggest factories for these braces is in Kentucky in the home state of Mitch McConnell.
	Is there anything our listeners and viewers should do now or do we have to wait until you and other brave Americans challenge this in the courts?
	Well, I think if you're not calling your representative, if you're not actively talking to your representatives or joining a group that's actually going to fight for your rights like Gun Owners of America, then you're not really standing up for your constitutional rights.
	You shouldn't be sitting at home doing nothing while Biden says your guns are illegal.
	Turn them in or register them.
	But if you're talking about exactly what needs to be done, if you have one of these firearms, well, the best thing to do right now is to wait and see what the final rule is.
	It's going to depend state by state.
	Some states don't let you have a registered short-barreled rifle.
	So the choices between getting rid of it or becoming a felon, there is no ability to comply with the rule because your state has already said short-barreled rifles are banned.
	And that's what Biden's saying.
	Your pistol is actually an illegal short-barreled rifle that needs registering.
	So for the time being, we have to wait and see what's going on.
	But if you want to be active, then go ahead and pick up the phone, call your congressman, call your senator, and, you know, be the change you want to see.
	I'm not a lawyer, but it seems pretty obvious to me that the government banning, making something illegal that they said explicitly was legal for 10 years, surely that should be a pretty easy case to win, Aidan?
	You would think so, and I think that it's absolutely outrageous that the ATF has that kind of authority, especially when they can flip-flop and it has criminal penalties, like a decade in prison.
	Unfortunately, we've seen this pattern of behavior before.
	Years ago, President Trump decided to ban bump stocks, and everyone thought, well, bump stocks, I don't own one of those, they're kind of stupid, just a range toy.
	And there were only 500,000 of them that were owned, and they became illegal, and we filed a lawsuit, and we took it all the way up to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court refused to hear our case.
	Now, the Biden administration took that precedent and said, we're going to apply it to up to 40 million pistols.
	These are AR-15s that we don't like anyway, and they're banning them, so we're going to take them to court.
	But the deck is stacked against gun owners, unfortunately, and we need to see some change in Congress.
	Alright, well thank you for what you're doing.
	Aiden Johnson, pleased today.
	The NRA is kind of AWOL.
	They've been AWOL for at least the last five years.
	So join a real organization like Gun Owners of America.
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	And you heard what he said.
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	What did we call Cash's one?
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	I have been advocating for more than 20 years now that we ought to get rid of this.
	No other country like ours, or anything akin to it, has got anything called a debt limit.
	That's Jim Clyburn.
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	America should have no debt limit.
	And he's been fighting for decades.
	This is not your father's, your grandfather's Democrat Party, whether it's being utterly, utterly irresponsible, reckless with your money, with your children's money, with the future of this nation, or whether it's the insane targeting of children now.
	This is Jesse Pocock, and she is a, oh no, this is Michael Cloud and Jesse Pocock, He is asking this trans activist about keeping gender transition quiet and secret from parents.
	And what does this person say?
	This is why we have a war, not just for America, but for our civilization.
	Gender trans activist Jesse Pocock and representative Michael Cloud.
	Cut 4!
	Do parents have a right?
	Should they be informed about what's going on?
	Do they have a right to know what's going on in their kids' lives?
	Those of us who are protecting and supporting young people are there and trusted with the information of the things that they are dealing with.
	In terms of parents' rights to know at schools, I mean, here in Colorado, parents don't have the right.
	If a young person is questioning their gender or their sexuality, there are laws in place that say that they have the right to process that with their trusted counselor and so forth.
	So you do a significant amount of your work with kids even starting at age 13?
	Yeah.
	What would be the age of consent then in your mind?
	In our community, the age of consent to mental health therapy is 12 years old.
	So we have laws that enable young people to connect with trusted adults who can support them.
	That is just so important.
	It prevents suicide.
	No, in fact it creates suicide.
	Those who have transitioned have a more than forty percent suicidal ideation rate.
	We are trusted?
	Who are you?
	Who authorized you?
	The parents don't have the right?
	Says who?
	You?
	You step in because you're trusted?
	Trusted by who?
	To manipulate twelve-year-olds?
	To give them puberty blockers?
	To propose surgery for them?
	This is the extent of the insanity.
	Everybody has a role to play, guys.
	All right, next up we have a very special guest, one-on-one, Amanda Milius, my colleague from the Trump administration, a troublemaker extraordinaire.
	You don't want to miss this one-on-one, the truth about what it's like working under somebody like Mike Pompeo.
	Thank you.
	But what is best in life?
	The open steppe, the fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
	Wrong!
	Conan, what is best in life?
	To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
	That is good.
	That is good.
	Relax, friends, it's not Monday, it's not Making Movies Great Again with our buddy Chris Coles, but I just have to play.
	I feel so bad.
	No, I don't feel bad, because every time she comes on the show, I play that cut, and this time I have a current reason to do so, because we have to teach Elon Musk the names of his favorite movies.
	She is a legend in her own lifetime, the son, the daughter of somebody who Well, I wish I could get him on the show.
	The great John Milius.
	Amanda Milius, Scourge of the Swamp!
	Welcome in studio.
	Thank you very much.
	Do you get really annoyed when I always use the same cut of Conan the Barbarian that your father made?
	No, but what I ask myself is why am I surprised each time?
	Because I hear it.
	Because you actually laugh!
	Every single time I hear it and I'm like, oh!
	It's like I don't expect it.
	And then you say, it's Corker, he's got to play it.
	We have to talk about so many political things, what's happening in the news, what's happening with the swamp, President Trump running again.
	But first things first, as we were in the green room you said, We have to help that Elon chap out.
	Why do we have to help him out, Amanda?
	What's the issue?
	Because he keeps dropping what?
	He keeps dropping John Milius quotes.
	And does he know where they're from?
	I don't think so.
	So maybe we should offer a little bit of pop culture training for Mr. Musk.
	I don't know why I think that, but he's had like three or something.
	Because you know what my dad does, he's the king of the one-liners, right?
	Go ahead, make my day, I love the smell of napalm in the morning, what is best in life, etc, etc.
	And so he's dropped like three or four of these, and it's like a joke amongst my followers, where I'm like, he did it again!
	But he's one of these guys, and he's exactly the right generation of these guys that grew up with my dad's movies.
	Thank God because I think it might have made him a masculine red-pilled guy because that tends to happen when guys growing up watch my dad's movies or fellows like yourself.
	I think it has an influence.
	I think he's about the same age as me.
	You keep talking while I check his age.
	But the thing is, I think he's one of those guys, and I run into them all the time, where they're like, wait, so you're telling me the guy that wrote that my favorite movie, and that my favorite movie, and that one, and that one, and the Hunt for Red October, and everything else.
	Yeah, Red John, Conan the Ripper, and Hunt for Red October.
	They have no idea it's the same guy who wrote all their favorite movie lines and all their favorite movies.
	Next time I'm on, I was two nights ago, I was on a Twitter Spaces with him again.
	I got to ask him a question.
	Next time, I promise, Amanda, I'm going to give him a little edumacation on who is the author behind all those quotes.
	Let's talk about this phenomena.
	I was given a little bit of a cold shower by my buddy, the editor-in-chief of Breitbart, Alex Marlow, a few months ago.
	And it was a justifiable one.
	He said, hey, you do know this guy's got lots of business interests in China?
	And we shouldn't expect any single individual, except the Son of God, but any man to save us, let alone a billionaire.
	So where do you stand?
	Because I said one thing after the last Twitter Spaces.
	Take it as you will.
	He's the most open billionaire... I think I wrote, I haven't met a politician, a billionaire, a CEO who is as accessible as this man because he goes on with a bunch of strangers for two hours taking questions.
	Talk to us about the phenomena of Musk and hashtag Twitterphiles.
	I mean, I think it's incredible.
	The one that I was on most recently, I missed the most, the one that you were on last night or the night before, but the one before that, I just... That was the one with people who cancelled.
	Right, but either way, I listened to the replay of his long one that he did, and I think you're totally right.
	The transparency is there, and I actually am fine with that.
	I don't need Everyone to agree with my exact political worldview, but the fact that they have that this man who has an incredible amount of power as any CEO of Twitter or any of these giant megacorporations would would be that transparent and he has been consistent and he is not Uh, uh, ignorant of what has transpired in the last few years.
	Um, what he said in response to my inquiry about Perkins Cooey still representing Twitter was very convincing.
	Let's just, for those who aren't familiar, so Perkins Cooey is The slickest, most diabolical law firm in D.C.
	Actually, if you want to know all about them... Oh!
	Look at that!
	Let's zoom in on her.
	Camera one.
	There we go.
	The most easy way to understand the entire Russiagate phenomenon and the blueprint of the deep state operations is right here as my gift to Mr. Gorka.
	All right, she has put a little Christmas bow on a DVD copy of the plot against the president.
	I think what I will do is we're going to have some kind of raffle.
	We're going to work out some kind of email thing.
	Because I've given you so many that you've got to start giving away.
	No, I've got a poster, the signed poster at home from Amanda.
	I've got You know, all the goodies.
	But I think we need to, you know, in the spirit of the season, give back to our listeners.
	So we will devise something, I think through our website, probably, or maybe one of our social media platforms.
	But I think we have to pay it forward, as they say.
	So Perkins Coie, slimebag lawyers who, of course, were the middlemen or the representatives for the Hillary Clinton campaign.
	The whole DNC.
	The whole DNC.
	He got that.
	And the Russia hoax thing.
	And he nailed it.
	So explain your interaction with him.
	I've tweeted at the guy a little much.
	I mean, sometimes I do these things because I'm a little bit nutty on Twitter and I don't ever expect a response back where I'm like, hey, did you know X?
	But on this one, I said—I did a thread where I was like, no, this is actually a problem.
	Here are the filings that Cash has been—and various others have said, no, Perkins Coie is still representing Twitter.
	And do you know who they are?
	Do you know who they represent?
	You cannot—just getting rid of Jim Baker is not enough.
	And all of that list of all of the former CIA and FBI officials that work at Twitter, and his response was just directly to me, and he said, Perkins Coie should never be hired by anyone until they- Nice.
	I know, I was like, oh my god, this guy!
	Until they repent for the damage that they've done, especially via Sussman and his criminal attempt to overturn a presidential election.
	And I was like, I don't think I could have written that response better myself.
	I mean, not that I'm like the Russiagate expert.
	There are many that know far more than I am.
	No, you made the movie.
	Come on.
	No false honesty.
	But I'm good at making movies about complex issues and simplifying them.
	And so I included the clip where we explain Here's Perkins-Cooey.
	Here's the DNC.
	Here's how it links back into the Russiagate op.
	Here's the blueprint.
	And it was the most simple graphic we could possibly do.
	And his response, even bringing in Sussman, shows me that he is not unaware of this.
	I'd be willing to guess, I think he's seen the movie, but I don't want to be, you know, he's also a smart individual.
	He could have just read the, you know, kept the dots together, but he would be one of very few people who could do so without watching the 90-minute, here's how it all ties together, you know?
	So I was really impressed by that.
	I was really impressed by his transparency.
	I mean, everything that he has been pushing out has been the things that I wanted to know.
	So, I'm pretty impressed.
	Is he enough catalytically to create a significant change in The Swamp and Palo Alto?
	I absolutely agree.
	In fact, one of the questions during the time period that I was on The Spaces with y'all was this, having him do what he's doing at Twitter might be more important and have more of an effect than the red wave that we had wanted.
	People are raising this.
	This was an argument, and I think I fall on the side of, Twitter is so massive, the public square of free speech is so massive, that if I had to trade one for the other, I would not trade having him at the head of Twitter.
	Because, I mean, I've been in politics for what, less than you all have, but for four or five years since I got...
	Tricked into coming and working in this terrible place and I'm still here.
	But we've seen what the Republicans will do when they're... We'll talk about that.
	We'll talk about how you were tricked to come to the swamp and work in the Trump administration.
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	All right, Amanda, tell us your story.
	How were you... Because you are an artsy-fartsy person.
	You graduated from a school on how to make movies.
	You are the progeny of one of the greatest filmic legends in America.
	When did you get bitten by the politics bug, and how did you get dragged into the Trump administration?
	You're gonna think I'm crazy, but I've come to... No, I know you're crazy.
	Well, we know... Oh, yeah, right.
	Right.
	Duh.
	But I do think it was a God thing, because I had, like, the strongest... And I've been trying to think about these things recently.
	I've been a little bit more in touch with this sort of thing, and I really feel like it was one of those gut moments where I could do nothing else.
	It made absolutely no sense to have toward I spent money and I mean a lot of money going to that film school and then learning everything I did and then touring a very successful student film that won over 45 different awards.
	I went to at 45 different film festivals but then to just hop in my car and drive across the desert like Many have done before, let's just say, and join the effort to elect Donald J. Trump.
	So you started by working on the campaign?
	As a volunteer, as a door knocker, as a fixer of the app, that's how I kind of got elevated is I could always fix the app for people like, you know, the door knocking app.
	I'd be like, well, you reset it for this neighborhood and that's it.
	And I'd go out with these people.
	And the coolest thing about it was is that I was nobody.
	I was a worker amongst workers.
	I was stapling signs to pieces of wood.
	I was hanging out with veterans, moms, dads, kids, just normal people.
	Nobody cared who anybody was.
	It was the opposite of L.A.
	It wasn't this constant, like, I'm cooler than you, I'm better than you.
	It was this wonderfully refreshing, extremely... These people just wanted to talk to each other.
	You know, it was like Americans who had not been able to communicate to each other.
	And you'd go to people's homes and the person there would be like, yes, I'm voting for Trump.
	And can I talk to you?
	As a, you know, a young single mom would open the door and they'd be like, what do you think about this?
	And I can't believe this.
	And they just wanted to talk.
	And it was this incredible moment of community, and I realized when I look back on it, it's taken this many years, you know, looking back on 2016, that the reason that I was the happiest I've ever been in my life when I was working on the Trump campaign, at the lowest possible levels as a volunteer only, was because I was working towards a common goal with other people.
	It doesn't sound like politics. - No, and I caution, you know, don't make politics your religion, right?
	You gotta watch out for that. - But it doesn't sound like politics.
	- No, but it, right.
	- It sounds like community.
	- Right, and that's what it was. - I don't wanna sound, you know, kind of-- - Right, I'm trying to avoid saying, "Okay, join your favorite campaign and that will," you know, but there was something magic to that period of time, and there was this camaraderie and friendship, and it was really beautiful, And to see the sacrifices that these people were making, I mean, that's what really stuck with me through my time in the administration.
	How did you transition?
	How did you go from campaign to administration?
	Well, eventually all the lawyers moved in, right?
	Because Las Vegas was the West Coast outpost of the fraud hotline and as it continues to be, you know, Arizona, Nevada.
	And they kind of quickly figured out that I knew a little bit more about, you know, Just certain things.
	Like, A, I brought a blazer.
	That was like a big deal.
	It was like, oh, you're wearing a blazer.
	You're coming to court with me tomorrow.
	Don't say anything, but just stand there.
	And I'm like...
	Just look intimidating.
	Looks like a Milius.
	Yeah, and then, you know, I got the job of picking up a lot of the VIPs when they would come for the events, and so I got to know a lot of the folks like Newt Gingrich, who became a mentor to me based on just being an actual big dad fan.
	Wind in the Lion, his favorite movie.
	The way Gingrich likes Wind in the Lion?
	Yeah, it's his favorite movie and he knew the whole thing.
	So I got him a signed script eventually once I started working at State.
	And I got to meet all these folks and then the lawyers came in and they were like, okay, you're coming with us.
	You're on spreadsheet duty from now on.
	And I was like, no problem, I got it.
	It was like they kind of plucked me into their world.
	And then a lot of those people are the people who ended up deciding who was working at what agency once we won.
	So why the State Department?
	Because I was convinced by one person and I said, oh, I could never work in the government.
	I've lived my life specifically with the phrase, I will never work in the government, thus I can do X.
	And he was like, no, no, no, that's not how it works.
	That's who we want.
	We want people like you.
	And I said, he's like, what do you hate the most about the government?
	And I was like, the financial waste on foreign affairs and the foreign affairs mistakes that are made.
	And he's like, all right, go to state.
	And I was like, oh, I get it.
	Okay, yes, yes, I will go to state.
	I will go to state and I will fight every single day.
	This is why the only job I would, well, within reason, the most fun job I would accept in the Second Trump administration would be ambassador to the UN.
	So I could just step in the building and it would just burst into flames.
	Okay, alright.
	If you do that... What are you going to do?
	I'll be your assistant.
	Whatever you want.
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	I haven't cleared anything with Amanda.
	We haven't rehearsed any of this because she's a good friend and we don't need to.
	We're having far too much fun.
	But I'm going to get you in hot water right now.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's fun.
	I've told this story on the show before.
	Have I showed it?
	No, I don't think I have.
	Maybe with my friends.
	So I was in the White House.
	Pompeo, CIA director, wanted to brainstorm with me over breakfast.
	I'm sorry.
	Don't interrupt my story.
	And so he invited me to breakfast, or I invited him to breakfast in the Navy mass.
	And this was when it was being floated that he'll be Secretary of State.
	Did you get any food?
	Did I get any food?
	Or did he just, like, consume it?
	Behave, woman!
	Behave.
	And he said to me, and I bought it.
	I was convinced.
	He said, Seb, I don't know if I'm gonna get this nomination for the State Department, but if I do, I'm going to turn that building around.
	If I die on that hill, I'm prepared.
	He actually said, I'm prepared to die on that hill.
	And I was so excited.
	Mike, you do it.
	You do it.
	He gets nominated.
	He gets approved.
	He goes to the State Department.
	About six months later, it's Christmas time, and a big, big envelope arrives at our home, and it's the Secretary of State's Christmas card.
	At least you got one.
	I worked for the guy.
	I never got one of those.
	He had your number.
	He knew who you were.
	And the card had nothing on the outside.
	It just says, you know, didn't even say Christmas.
	Didn't say seasons.
	It says, you know, whatever.
	Greetings from the Secretary of State.
	Open the card.
	And it doesn't say Jesus, doesn't say Christmas, doesn't say Season's Greetings.
	It has a photograph of like a kid with a crayon has just vomited on a piece of paper.
	It's a photograph of him and his wife in the lobby of the State Department and underneath this vomit it says, Celebrating Abstract Art at the State Department at this time of year.
	And then I thought, that's it, Mike, You have been captured.
	The Deep State owns your backside.
	Am I being unfair?
	No, you aren't going far enough.
	And now I will go ahead and get you into hot water and say, isn't it amazing that he had that breakfast with you to get your support and he knew exactly what to say to exactly what humans.
	And then when it came time to do certain hiring, It was he himself and the deputy that blocked...
	Oh, his buddy from West Point!
	Yeah, his entire crew from West Point, which I had to inform my dad.
	I was like, Dad, I know you've looked, you know, up, you've thought West Point was the most wonderful place for the longest time, but I've just come back from four years of, three and a half years of working with these people, and I've never met less impressive people in my entire life.
	Hopefully they don't stand for all of West Point, but if Mike Pompeo and his So tell us what it was like as somebody who understood why 64 million Americans voted for President Trump, somebody who understood MAGA being in there as a presidential appointee inside the State Department.
	What was it like working under Pompeo in his West Point take?
	They tried to fire me every Friday and what my boss and I would do is get the resume that they sent to hopefully replace me and we would read it together every Friday and laugh at it and then go like this.
	And then anything that we tried to do to accomplish the president's agenda or just that wasn't diametrically opposed to the president's agenda would get shot down.
	People were terrified of being fired for not allowing You know, never-Trumpers like Mary Kissel and the deputy Sullivan.
	Kissel who became Pompeo's speechwriter, correct?
	Right.
	So to edit any of these speeches, which when a Secretary of Speech for the United States of America makes a speech on the world stage, it actually does, in a way, set some policy.
	So when he's running around saying things like, The rules-based order and the new world order and... The globalist verbiage.
	The globalist this and that, and then absolutely killing any hope of supporting Brexit, not going far enough on Iran, hiring someone who had absolutely no experience in it to be ahead of it.
	You know, just the idea, just hearing this phrase now, could you imagine what it would have been like, dear friends, if an America first, MAGRA administration state department had supported the UK's goal of greater sovereignty under Brexit.
	For sovereignty in general?
	Just sovereignty in general.
	It just blows the mind.
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	All right, Amanda, this is literally flying by at the speed of Trump.
	I'm going to do a very quick switch to another track.
	You are an expert.
	You really have crushed it with Plot Against the President and so many other things.
	Elon Musk is exciting.
	I don't know if he can bring tectonic change, because without free and fair social media, we simply do not have free and fair elections.
	People don't read newspapers anymore.
	It is social media that is crucial.
	However, talk to me about, are you seeing any positive signs that conservatives are starting to understand and focus on the skill sets Of communication, of what you do, that it's touching the heartstrings with the truth that we know to be eternal, or are we still in the initial stages?
	I look at your work, I look at Dinesh's 2000 Mules, I look at Matt Walsh's What Is A Woman, and I see great products, but I see three films out of three thousand How much of an uphill battle will this be, and does the right even begin to understand what you are doing?
	Well, yeah, and I mean, especially since two of the ones you mentioned are more like homework assignments, you know, where it's like, we have some news.
	They can't get out of the idea that there's some news or a political argument that they want to make, and so they just put it on video, ignoring all the craft of cinema and of Controlling and manipulating emotions through the visual arts.
	And then they just, really they're more like videos.
	Very expensive videos.
	So, and I say this not because, you know, I don't believe in competitiveness amongst the conservative filmmakers.
	I believe in more voices, not less.
	And I believe we need an industry.
	So there must be more companies than just mine.
	But I don't see, so I've heard this, I've heard this for five years now from the likes of Andrew Clayton.
	We have to build.
	We have to build our eco-structure.
	Andrew Klavan has never been to an art school or maybe even an art museum in his life and has never been to a film school and has no idea what a good film... Don't bash Andrew here.
	The problem is these people... The point I want to make is who's...
	A. Do we want to build an alternative universe?
	And B. We have to.
	But who's going to fund it?
	I don't see that billionaire.
	I agree.
	And that's the issue.
	And I've had a very surprising interaction with a handful of funders.
	Surprising good or surprising bad?
	Surprising not so good because they're more fearful of the culture war than they are of the political war, which is crazy.
	But yeah, so I think that's been a little bit disappointing.
	So what does that mean?
	Well, it means that they're like, you know, a little bit more skittish about... But what does that mean for us?
	For the nation?
	It's not good.
	That is the one area that I've gotten a little bit darker on because I thought with some of the
	Rise in new filmmakers that things were going to Continue to grow and get more expert not necessarily experimental, but at least a little bit more tasteful And that's not really been what's happening, and so I'm hyper focusing my company on that Whereas I think there's room for focusing well style and using the crafts of cinema to change hearts and minds a storytelling
	Yes, actual storytelling, not homework assignments on film.
	Why did we forget that?
	Because none of them ever went to film school.
	But it's the most human thing.
	If you have children, you tell your children stories at night.
	They don't see this.
	It's a hubris.
	Same thing as going to the dentist and then thinking that you can go fix someone's teeth after you go.
	They go to the movies and they're like, "I have opinions about movies, thus I am capable of making them." With absolutely zero craft whatsoever.
	I mean, Dinesh D'Souza might be the worst filmmaker of all time.
	Oh, come on.
	No, I mean, really, I'll break it down on my film podcast, but the point is that we can't...
	And I understand I'm happy for his success because it's not like we have much to choose from.
	Well, come on, it's the most successful thing of its ilk.
	I mean, outside of PAPT.
	Yeah, but there's a reason for that line to cost this much.
	But we're not going to build No, but I'm saying, I'm encouraging, I mean, they didn't hide the how to make film books.
	You can buy one, they're quite cheap.
	Right, so tell us what the biggest thing is.
	They have no visual structure, they have no visual, you have to understand, like, there's certain things that the eyes are the closest thing to the mind.
	What you see has a massive effect on what you think and what you feel.
	Even something as silly as this, straight lines make you feel comfortable, slanted lines make you feel uncomfortable.
	That's just one of the most basic things I can think of.
	None of these tools, none of these... You could even just go back to like Hitchcock or... Every single director in America that's gone to film school uses these tools quite successfully.
	And are those schools still good?
	I don't know.
	It's hard to say because it's a craft school and when I went there, which wasn't that long ago, I might have been in the last class that wasn't.
	There was already woke stuff going on.
	But it was still craft.
	I just didn't take those classes.
	But they were still teaching craft.
	But they have to teach the craft or their kids aren't going to be hired by these companies.
	And that's what they make their bread and butter on, is USC planted XYZ alumni at these massive companies.
	And again, the film industry is falling apart because some of this is happening, where they're just like, these kids are graduating with no craft.
	But we can't make that mistake.
	Let's pick up what's left on the table, which is everything.
	Literature, art, film, let's take it all.
	That's a good name for a movie school, the Musk Movie School.
	What do you think of that, Elon?
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