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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Can President Trump win a second term?

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	Thank you.
	Right now, Donald Trump is the only Republican who is announced.
	He could be the nominee.
	He could be president again.
	You've been through the first presidency.
	You've been through January 6th.
	What would it mean if Donald Trump was re-elected president?
	I don't think it'll happen.
	The American people have gotten wise to him.
	Took a little while, but they did.
	I don't think that we should talk about him while we're eating.
	See?
	Really?
	Another Trump presidency?
	That might be one of the creepiest things I have seen in my 52 years on God's green earth.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	I didn't know what that cut was.
	I saw it listed in front of me.
	I said, Jeff, is that for real, that description?
	Schumer and Pelosi think they make Trump look bad as they're eating and her dentures are slipping in her mouth and he's chuckling.
	I'm trying to think, have I ever seen an interview Of that ilk.
	I know it's CNN and nobody watches it but my oh my was it creepy.
	The people have spoken.
	The people have spoken.
	Yeah, they spoke about you, Nancy Pelosi.
	Goodbye.
	It's Friday.
	Welcome to America First.
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	Welcome back in studio, my friends.
	Great to be here.
	I can't think of another couple that are like, so patriotic and freedom fighters like you.
	So will you just accept that description?
	Sure.
	No objection from the... Your Honour!
	No objection, Your Honour!
	Okay, let us proceed.
	We have so much to discuss.
	Let's talk about freedom of speech.
	Let's talk about the latest news from the man who bought Twitter, which isn't the most important social media platform out there, but when it comes to the quote-unquote media elite, They're a little bit annoyed that some of them are getting cancelled because they're revealing the real-time location of the new CEO of Twitter.
	This is somebody I've never heard of before called Donnie O'Sullivan on CNN.
	Cut three.
	If we want to quit Twitter, we're still going to be able to report and do our jobs.
	For a lot of independent freelance journalists around the world, you know, the reality is they have to be on Twitter because that is where editors and publishers will see their work and might hire them.
	I worry about the chilling effect that this might have on those reporters, particularly when you think that Musk also owns these other companies, Tesla and SpaceX.
	What if you're in Germany or elsewhere and you're reporting on maybe poor working conditions?
	Is he going to come and just stamp you down because he says, oh, that's against the rules?
	My good friend Chris Plant said in the morning, because I've seen a lot of coverage from CNN of the working conditions in the Nike factories in China.
	I mean, a lot, a lot of coverage.
	Let's hear from the man himself.
	He went on another Twitter Space is incredibly accessible.
	Elon Musk talking to thousands and thousands of people on his own platform, giving us the new rules for the platform that he now owns.
	Cut 13.
	Yeah.
	Well, as I'm sure everyone who's been doxing would agree, you know, showing real-time information about somebody's location is inappropriate.
	And I think everyone on this call would not like that to be done to them.
	And there's not going to be any distinction in the future between journalists, so-called journalists, and regular people.
	Everyone's going to be treated the same.
	They're not special because you're a journalist.
	You're just, you're a Twitter, you're just, you're a citizen.
	So, no special treatment.
	You doxed, you doxed, you get suspended.
	End of story.
	Docs being the release of somebody's location or their home address.
	Let's start with a very basic question before we get geopolitical and strategic.
	Are there really any legal, is there a legal aspect to this?
	Because I remember the good old days when we had phone books.
	And you could look up Sebastian Gorka and there would be his home address in the phone book.
	You could ask to be delisted, but is this just a private decision being made by an executive that if you release somebody's address I'm going to ban you off my platform?
	Or are there legal aspects?
	Well, this is geolocation.
	Actual, real-time geolocation.
	In this case, it's his plane, his car.
	You don't write your location in the phone book.
	Where he is physically at that moment.
	A hotel, a restaurant.
	So, this is entirely, this is doxing at its worst.
	And what's really amazing about this is, You never heard any of these journalists who have been suspended complaining about the suspension of conservatives when it was being done by the previous ownership.
	And there, it was being done in secret.
	And they weren't telling you they were doing it.
	They weren't announcing why they were doing it.
	They were lying about the fact that they were doing it.
	Here, he's saying, you guys are off because of what you did.
	I think that's pretty darn fair.
	He says journalists need access to Twitter?
	That's what John Sullivan said.
	Please don't take us off your private platform that you bought.
	We need it too much!
	The New York Post needed access, as I recall, and they didn't get it.
	Well, only after they published the Hunter Biden laptop story.
	And I will venture that the fellow you just saw complaining didn't say one word of objection about the New York Post being deplatformed.
	Let's go to the broader question of all the things we've seen occur.
	The so-called Twitter files drops in the last three weeks.
	Is there a legal standing for people when it comes to terms of service?
	Charlie Kirk has been on a complete tear on Twitter saying, I was told by Jack Dorsey face-to-face in a meeting I am not being censored.
	Now we see the pictures of the censor button on his account being pushed.
	Is there legal recourse in these cases?
	Well, for his testimony in front of Congress, but he wasn't under oath when he was talking to Charlie Kirk.
	But for Charlie Kirk, can he take action against the company?
	Well, it depends.
	Did the FBI come and tell him?
	Did the government interfere in any way and give a list of who should be outlawed?
	If Twitter was, if it was suggested to Twitter by the government, Then Twitter became what's called a state actor.
	When you become a state actor and you implement the government's orders, then you are liable for those actions.
	You are violating the First Amendment as a matter of law, even though you're a private company.
	Who gets sued, the FBI or the state actor?
	Both.
	In fact, Charlie Kirk does have a cause of action against Jack Dorsey.
	He even has an action against the current company with Elon Musk in charge because whoever takes over the company takes over the liabilities.
	So Elon Musk can then sue Jack Dorsey.
	In reverse, he can say, you did this, you've harmed Twitter, I'm going to sue you for all the damages we have to pay.
	What about, because it's pretty evident given the internal slack traffic we've seen, could the case be brought against the former safety chief, Yoel Roth?
	Would that be criminal or would that be civil?
	That'd be civil.
	They still are liable for what they did in their corporate, that's personal liability.
	He doesn't have immunity just because he had a job.
	Do you expect lots of cases like this or maybe a classed action suit?
	I hope so.
	Musk is really encouraging some of these cases as it's been reported.
	Plus, he's going to reveal more internal deliberations.
	Do you have faith that that's going to happen?
	Because this is a big discussion we're having with Steve Bannon yesterday, Kash Patel yesterday, that it's coming out, it's kind of piecemeal, it's kind of milquetoast.
	We want to see the email traffic from the Hoover building to Palo Alto saying, nix this account.
	Where is that email?
	Well, I think that's what James Baker was trying to swelch before he was exited from his job.
	I think there is email traffic and once there's a deposition start being taken, the Bureau and the government are going to fold because this is going to be so clear that they instructed Twitter what to do and that they interfered in the First Amendment.
	What we don't know is can those Between the FBI and Twitter, can they be destroyed?
	I'm not geeky enough to know.
	I don't think it's possible to do that.
	We're going to continue the discussion.
	It's so important.
	We've just scratched the surface.
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	go to sam gorka store.com that would be part of it but it could also be just tortious interference explain with business Well, people use Twitter for generating business.
	It's a commercial entity.
	If they were doxxed, if they were silenced, and were lied to about it, or even weren't lied to about it, All of the new theories of suing Twitter and the social media companies say that Section 230 doesn't protect them from commercial business violations, only from defamation.
	But when you say commercial business violations, does that mean violations of their terms of service with their customers?
	Yes.
	Or damage done to me commercially?
	Dan Bongino talks about how he lost a lot of money because his output was suppressed.
	But you have to demonstrate that, don't you?
	You have to show damages.
	And damages are measured in dollars.
	So if you can show loss, then you're entitled to those.
	But you can also get punitive damages, which are not measured by virtue of what you lost.
	They are measured by the damage that was done to you just because you were being punished.
	It's a jury.
	It's just a jury feel-good amount.
	I don't think it will because I think he has a plan and I think he's going to go forward with it.
	the amount of liability he puts his own company in?
	I don't think it will because I think he has a plan and I think he's going to go forward with it.
	I just don't see him being a guy who's frightened of this sort of thing.
	Besides, I don't think there's going to be that much litigation.
	I think what is important is the transparency and the disclosure and showing what a liar Jack Dorsey was and all of those doofuses who were running his company - Well, you lied under oath.
	When there's a purchase of a corporation, then they're supposed to list their liabilities.
	And if they haven't listed this liability, then he goes right after Dorsey.
	He doesn't take the heat.
	But I've been in where you want to get information out, and you don't want to do a dump, as they call it.
	You want to do it piecemeal.
	But here it still isn't working.
	I mean, ABC, CBS, NBC, none of them are talking about it.
	It's only conservative...
	I think it's pretty much out there.
	the issue comes up.
	But it's only conservative still media that's doing it at some point.
	I think it's pretty much out there.
	I think people know what's going on.
	And I think they sense, even though some of the polling shows that people are a little confused and rather be twixt in between about whether or not this is good or bad or indifferent, They're not quite sure what to make of it yet.
	It does tell us that we have a populace that is really, really out of touch in many ways with their brain power.
	Come in with the Alana video.
	Explain that.
	The American population is being dumbed down over years of misuse.
	Rush used to call them the low information voters.
	And boy, do we have a bunch.
	Yeah.
	It's really, it's frightening because you hear the person on the street interview and you hear what their reaction is to what's going on.
	Or, who's the Vice President of the United States?
	You know, so it really is frightening when you think about the low... But most of those videos are with kids.
	You know, they're like college-age kids.
	Yes, the next generation.
	That's even worse!
	The future.
	The interview is with the future.
	The interview is with the future.
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	I want to amuse you because it's Friday.
	We need to be in a in a good mood before we get back to the heavy discussion here about the swamp.
	This is well I don't know what it is allegedly he's the president United States and I think his brain fell out of his ear cut nine play cut.
	I made it real clear the United States Congress if they didn't pass this damn burn pit bill I was gonna go on holy war not a joke.
	Creepy it's just I'm gonna buy I just don't think he's going to be president again.
	How about something that's really funny?
	Somebody with the last name Sununu talking about somebody being in politics for four years being too long.
	Cut 12.
	Is he fit to be president again?
	I just don't think he's going to be president again.
	But do you think he should be president again?
	No, because he's done his time.
	He's done his service.
	We're moving on.
	We are, as a country, as a party.
	We want the next idea.
	We want the next generation.
	Whatever it is.
	So to say we're going to be a country where the best opportunity for our future leadership is the leadership of yesterday, that's frankly un-American.
	We're just taking the next step.
	We're moving on.
	Thank you for your service.
	I'm curious, does Governor Sununu know what his last name is?
	We're moving on.
	We need a new generation.
	Who is your dad, Governor Sununu?
	I mean, you might as well be a Clinton or a Bush.
	I mean, that is when you have no mirrors at home and you have no way.
	One man who ran for office once served four years.
	Oh, he's had his time.
	But you, you can create a dynasty that controls New Hampshire for decades.
	That's okay, right, Chris?
	Yes, all right.
	Let's get back to our discussion.
	You said something fascinating earlier about the Twitter revelations from Elon Musk, if there is disclosure, depositions.
	You said the FBI would fold?
	We haven't seen a lot of folding in the last few years.
	Why would that happen?
	Because the ultimate They don't have any choice.
	Their role in fomenting the blocking of information about American citizens by American citizens is so horrific and so horrendous.
	You'll notice the FBI director, Christopher Wray, hasn't said a word about this.
	He's desaparecido, as we say in South America.
	He's gone.
	And he can't say anything about it.
	First of all, he's a coward.
	He's the worst FBI director in history.
	He doesn't know how to lead.
	He's an empty suit.
	He has a great barber and a great tailor.
	Those are his qualifications to be FBI director.
	And so what you are seeing is he's lost control of his agency.
	There are enough people in there who will squeal and scream and be whistleblowers that this is going to get very ugly.
	And see, this is why Musk is so important.
	Because not only is he cleaning up Twitter, he's going to help clean up the FBI.
	Because Baker's going to have to testify.
	And Baker... I don't know whether Baker will tell the truth or not.
	I have no idea.
	But he knows a lot.
	And this is going to get much more interesting.
	This is a challenge for the Republicans, though, if I can just say.
	We'll talk about the Republicans in a second, but talk to us, Victoria, about Baker.
	So this is a person who's been at DOJ since 1990, who becomes Chief Counsel at the FBI, and then just magically transitions to Deputy Chief Counsel of Twitter.
	Can you talk to us about this person?
	And, you know, this happens to be the same person that Michael Sussman can just walk into at any time he wants as Clinton's lawyer.
	Well, he was responsible for Russia, Russia, Russia.
	And all of a sudden, Twitter is very interested in bringing him in.
	But we've learned something in the last week that I did not know, and that is that there were a lot of former CIA and FBI people working at Twitter.
	Why?
	Pray tell, why?
	What did they bring?
	As somebody who works on terrorism issues in the DOD, I can understand it if you're an SME.
	If you're a subject matter expert and you are hired to make sure Al-Shabaab isn't using Twitter, or if you've come from the child exploitation unit at FBI and you're helping make sure, because I know this is one of Elon's core issues, is protecting children from being exploited on Twitter. because I know this is one of Elon's core issues, Then you could hire somebody who's a GS-15 expert on child pornography.
	But these senior political individuals, why would they be in Palo Alto?
	Because they know other people in government and they can cooperate and they can serve as liaisons between the government and Twitter.
	And that's how government used them.
	Government used the formers who were sitting in Twitter to direct the activities of Twitter and to suppress speech.
	So this is the thing that for me was missed the most when Elon was in the world.
	Elon came on two weeks ago when I was in Israel.
	He came on Twitter Spaces for two and a half hours, and then he fired James Baker, the Deputy Chief Counsel.
	Everybody was missing the plot.
	They're saying, oh, look at these emails, look at this DNC collaborating with Twitter.
	For me, the only issue that mattered, does anybody think who's got two brain cells that James Baker was censoring the Twitter files without Elon's knowledge?
	On his own initiative?
	Does anybody believe that his buddies at DOJ, the White House, the FBI weren't telling him?
	That's not plausible, is it?
	As Musk said, when I interviewed him, I was dissatisfied with the answers that I got.
	And that meant that he thought that Baker was lying through his teeth to him.
	But why he didn't know at the very get-go and kept him on?
	Well, this is another issue.
	We're talking to Victoria Townsend, Jody Jenner.
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	Yeah, so the thing that was fascinating for me so the thing that was fascinating for me on that call that Elon jumped on is I asked him, where are the real smoking guns?
	We know that DNC collaborated with Twitter.
	We want to see government collusion with Twitter.
	And he said, I'm not handling the documents.
	I'm giving them to Matt and Bari, but I think there are smoking guns.
	So he hasn't even read the documents.
	He's just basically giving data dumps to these two left-wing journalists, and they're sifting it until Baker got in the way for a few weeks.
	You know, he's got a full plate.
	He's still got to run his car company and the rocket company.
	Yeah, we've got Tesla stock.
	We want him to be running that company well.
	But nobody could.
	They have to use computer programs to go through all of those emails.
	It's an impossible task.
	I just want to see one conservative journalist.
	I want to see a Julie Kelly.
	I want to see somebody, not just former New York Times writers, It's a good point.
	I think what you're seeing are the last remnants of his former member of the Democratic Party brain.
	That part of the brain hasn't cleared out yet, because what he should have done was... Matt Taibbi's fine, and so is Barry Weiss.
	They're okay.
	But he should have chosen somebody from the people that are doing all the work and have done all the work.
	- Or he broke the story, like Miranda Devine in the New York Post, or, you know, what's her name, Emma Jo Morris, somebody who, you know, was throttled because of the-- - Sure, the Real Clear Investigations people, all of those folks that have done this magnificent work. - Lee Smith, Lee Smith.
	Lee would be great.
	Also the format, using tweets instead of an article.
	Very difficult to digest.
	Very difficult to digest.
	Oh, maybe that's why ABC and CBS and NBC haven't covered it.
	Well, they have a lot of trouble reading over there now.
	Where's Jeff?
	Has he got his headset on?
	We need to get Lee Smith back.
	Just remind him.
	A really good guy.
	Yeah, he has been on for ages.
	Real smart guy.
	busy with the Epoch Times I think alright what cuts do we need come in with
	cut four cut
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	This is off the rails.
	And someone said recently, and it's apropos, that you could take almost any headline right now that has Musk's name in it and swap out Musk for Trump and it would still feel apropos.
	The chaos, the ego, the insults, and the fact that he is bringing down an institution.
	And the Twitter is not the Republican Party, but it certainly feels like we're in the dying days of this platform.
	Somebody needs to buy Jonathan Lemire a dictionary, because that's not the right use of apropos, by the way.
	It was strange that you didn't have issues when somebody else was running Twitter.
	Maybe because he was politically of the same ilk as you.
	We're back.
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	Special in-studio guests Joe DeGeneva and Victoria Tansing.
	So let's take what we're witnessing with the revelations from Palo Alto, from Musk, to the next level.
	We have a new Congress sworn in in just a couple of weeks' time.
	Is anything going to change?
	They haven't gotten their act together yet.
	They haven't decided who the speaker is going to be.
	And for the four or five people who are, and I really like most of them, who are fighting McCarthy, and I'm not a fan of McCarthy, but who are you going to replace him with?
	Where are you going to get your 218 votes that you need?
	I think it's pretty clear that it's going to be Kevin.
	Does that mean it's going to be the same old, same old subpoena here, a subpoena there, milquetoast investigations, fakers?
	There was never a subpoena here and a subpoena there.
	That was the whole problem.
	There were no subpoenas under Paul Ryan and his successors.
	I talked to Mark Meadows once and said, don't you guys know how to... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Lindsey Graham promised us one for six years.
	Yeah.
	I think that both Comer and Jim Jordan are very serious people and they do not want to embarrass themselves.
	gets to also decide, but I bet you the Democrats are going to change that.
	PAUL SOLMAN: So will there be any ramifications for what we're seeing?
	DAVID BROOKS: I think that both Comer and Jim Jordan are very serious people, and they do not want to embarrass themselves.
	They have talked about this for years.
	They have to produce, and they know it.
	I don't like this talk about we're inviting people in to testify.
	I don't know why they're not subpoenaing people right away.
	This is nonsense.
	They're wasting time.
	Two years is a moment in history.
	It takes long.
	There could be litigation.
	People may fight you.
	You don't wait to issue subpoenas.
	You issue them.
	Who do we begin with?
	Who should be subpoenaed?
	Here's what I like.
	I would demand the immediate testimony of Officer Byrd who killed Ashley Babbitt.
	I would start my hearings with Lieutenant Byrd, and if he takes the Fifth, All the better.
	I would then bring in the former chief of police of the Capitol Police, who said he was stymied.
	Because remember, Sebastian, the day on January 6th that Victoria and I were in your studio, this very studio, and we said after we saw it, this was a catastrophic security failure.
	Not one bit of testimony about the failure of security on that day.
	All by Pelosi.
	On the same issue, I would get Christopher Wray in and make him tell how many government undercovers, either an asset or actually working for the bureau, one or the other, were there.
	Yes.
	Trump paraphernalia.
	And we're on the scene.
	I mean, you've worked, you were in a position where you were responsible for helping secure the House.
	You were working with the Speaker.
	And I did major demonstrations when I was the U.S.
	Attorney for the District of Columbia.
	Naive question.
	Since Nancy Pelosi was responsible for the security of Congress as the Speaker.
	Yes, she is.
	But she's still going to be in Congress.
	She can't be subpoenaed.
	Oh, sure she can.
	Now, whether or not they want to subpoena her is another question.
	Remember, while the Democrats controlled the House of Representatives, they subpoenaed the phone records of Republican members of Congress, of Victoria Tunsing, of John Solomon, of all kinds of people.
	And leaked them to the New York Times.
	So, can they subpoena her?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Is there an example in recent history of serving congressmen or women being subpoenaed?
	No, not by the body itself.
	This is all new territory.
	But guess what?
	There's now no history ever of members of Congress subpoenaing phone records of people because I talked to several members.
	Adam Schiff has set a standard which the Republicans should copy.
	And that is, if there are members on the other side of the aisle who have information, they should be forced to provide it.
	The Democrats started this jihad.
	They started it in the most obnoxious way.
	They lied about what they were doing.
	They secretly got subpoenas for the phone records of American citizens and fellow lawmakers.
	And that's why all this stuff about, well, we're not sure how far we're going to go punishing them, They should be punished to the nth degree.
	Which takes me back to the Republicans in the House, whether they can really perform.
	That is the question.
	At least we have a title for this hour when we post it later today.
	The Democrats Started This Jihad.
	Write that down, Eric, because that is going to be the title for this hour.
	It's The Democrats Started This Jihad.
	I've got lots of questions.
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	Your phone records got cancelled.
	That's what I'm going to mention.
	And my attorneys didn't even tell me.
	I have to find out from... Your phone records got cancelled?
	Yeah, the request for his phone records.
	Who cancelled it?
	They did.
	When did they do it?
	It was news yesterday.
	But that shows you how long things can be drug out because this is what, six months, seven months old?
	It was Christmas.
	It was the week before Christmas.
	It was the January 6th committee.
	See, they're worried now.
	What you're seeing is they thought that this would never happen, that the Republicans would be able to get the House back.
	And now they're worried that the tactics that they used are going to be used against them.
	But they know the GOP won't do that.
	But you see, the GOP is going to have a real problem because the supporters of the party are in a very difficult position now.
	Whether it's Trump, what's going to happen with Trump, what are going to happen with Trump supporters, they cannot fail.
	If they punk out, they are going to destroy the Republican Party.
	They will never win the House again.
	But other people with balls care about punking out.
	If you don't have balls, you can punk out anyway.
	Well, look at what the Senators did who voted for this crazy legislation that's been going on in the Senate.
	And they may vote for that budget.
	I can't imagine that they're going to pass an omnibus bill with Republicans about to take over the House.
	Talk about giving up leverage.
	I mean, McConnell's got to be out of his mind.
	This is all about doing favors for members who are retiring.
	We have a PhD here?
	PhD, okay.
	So you really think they're going to be afraid of the base?
	They weren't afraid of the base for the last two years.
	I don't know.
	You know, I watch Jim Jordan sometimes, and I think he's an OK guy.
	And then I watch him, and he temporizes.
	He hasn't said word one about the January 6th prisoners.
	I know.
	None of them have.
	Very few of them have.
	Six of them have.
	We know who they are.
	I mean, it's just unbelievable.
	He's a ranking member of judiciary.
	doesn't say anything about solitary confinement for two years.
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	All right, I have to share with you the good news.
	I'm pretty miffed at my attorneys, expensive attorneys, who haven't even contacted me in the last 48 hours.
	I found out by accident online, let's put the headline up from the fake news outlet that is CNN, January 6th committee winds down and is abandoning its efforts to subpoena phone records.
	The week before Christmas, a year ago, I arrived home with a little FedEx envelope from Verizon saying, Uh, Nancy wants your phone records, and your wife's phone records, and your children's phone records, and we're going to give them.
	I filed an injunction, uh, twelve months later?
	They've dropped it?
	Nancy's given up?
	What's going on, guys?
	They are worried about the same tactics being used against them.
	They know that this is the beginning of the anti-Schiff, anti-Pelosi tactics.
	And I hope the Republicans have the cojones to do what the Democrats did.
	Because I go back to the independent counsel law.
	And everybody loved it when it was being used against Republicans.
	And then Bill Clinton took office and it was used against the Democrats.
	And you know what?
	It was just a miracle how up there on the Hill they decided not to renew it when it had run its course.
	Let me ask you, can you imagine the GOP after January putting in a subpoena for John Brennan's phone records?
	Or someone else, a former I think they should.
	But can you imagine it?
	I want to imagine it.
	I hope it will happen.
	And if they don't do it, they're going to disappoint a lot of people and they're going to show they don't have the strength of character necessary to do the job.
	This isn't about taking depositions and bringing people up.
	That's a part of the process.
	But before you do that, you need records to cross-examine people about.
	Phone records, emails.
	They need to do exactly what they did to the Republicans.
	- Just like the independent counsel law.
	They have to hurt the Democrats as much as the Democrats were willing to hurt Republicans.
	And until they feel it, it's never gonna stop. - All right, well, let me share with you a list that we've drafted here at America First.
	Given the discussions we had, especially with Kash Patel yesterday, If we want to get serious, if President Trump wants to get serious, if America First wants to get serious, these are the people who should either work in the next Trump administration or should be working for the 45th president right now, given what we witnessed in the last 48 hours, which was less than salubrious.
	So here are some names.
	Kash Patel, Stephen K. Bannon, Addie Sarabian, Devin Nunes, Amanda Milius, Johnny McAtee, Rudy Giuliani, Bernie Kerik, Tom Holman, Ken Cuccinelli, Mark Morgan, Carrie Lake, Newt Gingrich, Scott Pressler, Ben Carson, Ambassador Robert Lighthizer, and what is this strange foreign name?
	Joseph DeGeneva and Victoria Tansi.
	If we had serious people like that, we'd have a shot, wouldn't we?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Is it going to happen?
	I just sometimes, you know, I love Donald Trump, but this last 48 hours have been so silly and unnecessary.
	And he besmirches himself.
	It's just really nonsensical.
	It takes away the seriousness.
	Well, especially when it's happening on the same day, that you have that amazing seven-minute video on the First Amendment and what we're going to do and stop the DHS and the FBI colluding with Twitter.
	The juxtaposition is jarring.
	He steps on his own line.
	The juxtaposition is jarring.
	I immediately reached out to Mar-a-Lago and I said, guys, what is going on?
	Given a reply within seconds, say, oh, that's a business partner of the president's who dropped that.
	I don't care if it's, you know, Mother Teresa.
	You don't do that on the day that you're dropping a policy video.
	The first policy video since he announced five weeks ago.
	So I want serious people around President Trump.
	I just gave you a list of some serious people.
	I'm going to be putting this in an article on my substack.
	We'll be fleshing it out.
	The plans that I have hatched with Kash Patel for how we Actually start to drain the swamp on day one of the second Trump administration.
	But in the meantime, give us your percent.
	I mean, you've worked in the Senate.
	You've worked in the swamp.
	You've been the U.S.
	attorney for D.C.
	Percentage probability of the GOP showing a modicum of resilience after January?
	Well, this is all hope.
	You know, it's a wing and a prayer.
	But your experience, give us your gut sense.
	Not in the Senate.
	They are not killers in the Senate.
	Well, they don't have the power in the Senate.
	But even if they did... In the House, I am hopeful.
	I can't give it a percentage because... But after everything you've seen in the last six years...
	I mean, I have to be honest, you're a friend of mine.
	I'm surprised that you're coming on here in front of three million people and after what you've witnessed yourself, the attacks that you've gone under, that you're actually hopeful with these people?
	Yes, we have to be.
	I don't have any choice because I don't want to be depressed.
	Yes, exactly.
	And you are absolutely right.
	But as I said earlier, this is a test for them.
	And this, by the way, this is pass fail.
	I mean, there's only one grade.
	You either do this stuff or you're done.
	I mean, and then they're going to be abandoned by law.
	The donor pool will evaporate.
	The small donors will go away.
	The small donors will go away.
	Say it.
	You're hopeful because you have to be.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And you just and.
	And you look at them and you say, maybe they've learned, maybe they've got some new DNA in them, because they didn't have it in 17 and 18 when they controlled the house the last time.
	There's an interesting logic I've heard here, that with the narrow margin they'll have, six or eight seats, That it's all the more incumbent upon them to demonstrate fortitude.
	Do you think that could be the case?
	Yeah, they should learn from Nancy.
	Fill her high heels.
	Govern like you have a 50-vote majority.
	Because she did.
	She did.
	She allowed remote voting.
	She made people pass through machines to get metal detectors.
	She was a tyrant.
	She was an absolute tyrant.
	Here's a really important factor.
	Back when we both worked in the House, too, back in the Newt Gingrich days, and there was just about this much, you know, seven to eight votes, and so all of our committees were 7-6.
	8-7.
	It was tight.
	There was only one vote margin and Joe Scarborough was on our committee and we called him No Show Joe because at the last minute he wouldn't show up and so we wouldn't have the votes to put things through.
	No Show Joe.
	Oh, how embarrassing.
	No Show Joe.
	No Show Joe.
	But Nancy would have committees with 8-5.
	Of course.
	Follow her on Truth Social, right?
	Truth Social?
	No, Getter.
	Getter.
	You're on Getter.
	No, no, no, no.
	Twitter.
	Oh, she's on Twitter.
	I just got Vic Tunsing because I just got 8,000 more followers.
	Isn't she getting more followers?
	The age of Elon.
	Vic Tunsing.
	Follow her right now.
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	When Florida was more blue and maybe purple, but it was basically a blue state. - The fact that he was a congressman blows my mind.
	It blew our mind to have to deal with him on the committee, because we only had one vote margin, and he wouldn't show.
	So you worked at the House as well?
	Yes, we both.
	We conducted a series of hearings.
	We did the Teamsters investigation.
	And that's how we learned that in order to be productive in a hearing, you need to have your counsel question for 20 minutes, 30 minutes, and not 5 minutes, 5 minutes, 5 minutes, because they're not capable.
	I mean, all you had to do is watch a hearing with my orchestra.
	What, Eric?
	No, I did not.
	Oh, please, it better be not somebody I'm annoyed at.
	He's a friend.
	Oh my gosh, no way!
	Guess he's back on Twitter.
	Pillow Man.
	Oh, Mike?
	Good for him.
	All right, let's welcome him back.
	But call him about that issue.
	I will.
	All right.
	What did he say?
	Thank you, Elon Musk.
	And by the way, melt down the electronic voting machines and turn them into prison bars.
	Oh my gosh, let's find his river.
	Let's find him.
	Let's find him.
	On the side of the U.S. Constitutional Constitution, America first.
	He's back!
	Yes, indeed, the great Mike Lindell is back on Twitter.
	His first tweet, I'll put it at the top of my Twitter feed so you can find it.
	I'm back!
	Thank you, Elon Musk.
	And by the way, melt down the electronic voting machines and turn them into prison bars.
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	We're talking to our good buddies, Victoria Tunsing, Joe Degeneres.
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	I've got a plan for the next administration whereby Day one, we go to every department and we find people who've broken the law, whether it's malfeasance, theft, corruption, contravention of the Constitution.
	We find at least two in every department.
	I don't care whether it's agriculture or the CIA.
	We arrest them, we put them in shackles and we walk them out of the building and we change the culture of service in America before we move those departments to Nebraska and South Dakota.
	What do you think?
	I think it's a good start.
	I like that!
	What else would you add?
	Joe, what else would you add, Victoria?
	A better grand jury than the ones we have now.
	Better grand jury?
	Yes, so we can do those indictments in cases against corrupt government officials.
	How do you get a better grand jury?
	You take them out of D.C.
	Yeah, you've got to leave D.C.
	because there's no way a Republican can get any kind of fair procedure in Washington, D.C.
	What else would you do if you wanted to have government of the people, by the people, for the people, in addition to the Gorka plan?
	Well, I would get better personnel in government than Donald Trump had.
	I mean, it's just a given that he didn't get people in there who could kick ass.
	Anything else mechanical when it comes to, for example, DOJ, FBI?
	Because so many people are saying get rid of the FBI, give its missions to other agencies.
	No, no, no, no.
	If you get the right people leading.
	People are destiny.
	You have to have the right people running things.
	If you have the wrong people, it doesn't matter what the structure is.
	Bad people like James Baker are going to figure out a way to break the system and disobey the law.
	I mean, look at what happened.
	If Bill Barr, and he has his faults, he became very strange at the end, but in the beginning he was strong and there would never have been an independent council.
	Yeah, but he became a swamp creature by the end of it.
	That's the trouble.
	We don't need people who become swamp creatures by the end of it.
	No, but all I'm saying is Jeff Sessions, insured, was going to be.
	All right, she's back on Twitter, along with Mike Lindell, along with the Babylon Bee.
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	I'm just retweeting Mike Lindell.
	Welcome back, Mike!
	He's back.
	Who else?
	Who else is left in Twitter jail who needs to come back?
	Eric, can you think of anybody?
	Off the top of my head, no.
	I mean, the President's back.
	Mike Lindell's back.
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	I mean, of course, Elon brought back and then re-banned Kanye, but nobody really cares about him anymore.
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	What should, given our conversation with Joe and Victoria, what should the GOP investigate first in 2023 when they get the House?
	Should it be Hunter Biden, the Biden family corruption?
	Should it be big tech censorship?
	Or should it be the origins of COVID?
	That is a tough choice.
	Who came up with that question?
	That must have been a very smart person who came up with that question.
	Go to SebGorker.com and tell us what is your priority.
	What should the Republicans investigate first?
	Should it be Hunter Biden, the Biden family crime cartel, big tech censorship, or the origins of COVID?
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	But first, we have an unusual clip from the man with the name that President Trump thinks is funny, Glenn Youngkin, the governor of Virginia.
	Hey, Jeff, this is a bit weird.
	This is, what's her name?
	What's this woman, Marsha?
	Martha McCallum.
	Martha McCallum, who's throwing a curveball at Governor Youngkin on TV.
	Why do you think Fox did that?
	I don't know, but it was interesting that I've never heard these numbers before either.
	I know.
	They asked about not Trump's endorsements, But Glenn Yonkins, and I don't think he gives a very convincing answer.
	Cut 11, play cut!
	So you traveled the whole country, and there were five governors who you supported who won out of 15.
	It's not a great margin.
	Some said that you, including Larry Sabato at the University of Virginia here in your home state, said that this effort on your part was to generate buzz nationwide and to build momentum for you and for your future.
	So those losses, what do they say about the candidates, about your ability to help people across the finish line, and about your own future?
	Well, first of all, it's not the first time I disagree with Larry Sabato.
	So we went to work hard for governor's races.
	And what happened in my race was there was an outside candidate who everybody said couldn't win.
	And Republican governors from around the country came together and supported me.
	And I will never forget that.
	And so it was my turn to repay the favor.
	And we picked hard races, races where the states were set up a bit like Virginia, where Joe Biden had won by 10 points.
	And we went to work to try to flip those states.
	I think that the efforts we put forth showed that yes, the message carries, but it's hard to unseat an incumbent.
	I'm not really... Eric, was that answer convincing to you?
	I don't think so.
	I think, like you said, he was not expecting that.
	He thought this would be a, you know, puff piece interview and he just kind of was stuttering on the spot to come up with something.
	Yeah, you gotta try a little bit harder, Glenn.
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	Happy Friday, Al.
	Happy Friday, Sebastian.
	I've got two quick questions for you.
	One is about the Galil, I think you were just in Israel.
	Yes.
	The Israelis captured a lot of AK-47s, which is robust, but not accurate.
	So they all they did, and I'm surprised that this was all they did, they moved the rear sight back, and you had a robust, more accurate gun.
	And the second question is about an Oregon law.
	Now, I'm not sure I got all the details right.
	Maybe you have, or maybe somebody in your audience has.
	I was told that the politicians in Oregon Wanted all the citizens of Oregon to turn their guns into the police.
	And I heard a policeman saying, well, we don't want to do that.
	But had you heard anything like that?
	Yeah, I didn't hear anything of that, Ilk.
	There was something passed or something slated to pass that I think had to do with high-capacity magazines, but I'll have to look into it.
	On your first point, yes, I have several Galils.
	Actually, one is wending its way to me right now as we speak from one of the masters of the AK platform Jim Fuller has built for me.
	A 300 Blackout Galil.
	I am very excited.
	As soon as it arrives, I will share photographs with you.
	The Galil, it's a little bit more than that.
	They moved the rear sight to the back of the dust cover with a far more rigid dust cover, but they also created safety on the left-hand side.
	One of the issues with the AK is You know, the safety's on the right-hand side.
	It's a little bit cumbersome.
	So they did update it and made it perfect for use in the desert.
	However, it is a heavy weapon.
	For a 5.56 weapon, the Galil is a heavy weapon.
	But it is a battle-tested one.
	Thank you, Al.
	Let's go to John in Tennessee.
	John, happy Friday.
	Happy Friday, sir.
	Merry Christmas to you, and I wish you a blessed New Year, as we all wish.
	Thank you kindly.
	What brings you to our show today?
	So just a quick what-if from history, just to see what you think would have happened, how things would have turned out differently in the world.
	At the end of World War II, the American government allows American pilots and bomber crews to join up and fight for the Chinese Nationalists.
	These are like the American Volunteer Group did before we even joined World War II.
	For the sole purpose of defeating Chairman Mao and deleting him from the world.
	So we end up with no Chairman Mao and no Communist China.
	How do you think the world would have turned out now?
	My gosh, that's an interesting question.
	I mean, this is my problem with alternative histories.
	I know, you know, big brains like Neil Ferguson have, you know, built whole careers and written volumes on alternative history.
	They're fun, John, but they're kind of meaningless because it didn't happen.
	It's counterfactual.
	It's a little bit like who wrote those uh... kind of science fiction fantasy books about harris name was harris i think about uh... the third reich winning world war two it's it's it's an interesting concept but so what if we had if we had i'll say one thing for sure if the kwomintang if the nationalists had uh... maintain control in mainland china and mao never managed to
	Create the Red China that we know today.
	The story of the Cold War would have been completely different.
	Especially when it came to the power of the Soviet Union.
	Because they would have been surrounded on the East as well by allies of ours.
	And perhaps most important of all when it comes to the history of mankind.
	60 million people wouldn't have been murdered by Mao's regime.
	I mean, that is a figure that beggars belief by even the standards of the Third Reich and other genocides.
	The Chinese communists Killed 60 million of their fellow Chinese.
	The greatest genocide in human history.
	And it wouldn't have happened had the Kuomintang stayed in power and defeated Mao.
	Interesting questions.
	Don't think we have to spend too much time on them, but thank you kindly.
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	And this is Twitter drop 7, right?
	Uh, number six.
	Six?
	Yeah, and it's got the, uh, yeah.
	This is exactly what, um... Screenshots of emails, direct communication between FBI and Twitter.
	Wow.
	Do you see this?
	Did it drop yet?
	The latest drop.
	Yeah, like 13 minutes ago.
	Title, uh, from Matt Taibbi.
	Oh.
	Uh, part six.
	Twitter, the FBI subsidiary.
	Oh, wow.
	Want to come in with breaking news?
	Yes, come in with breaking news.
	Alright, let's talk about Twitter dumps.
	What else should we talk about?
	Border?
	Both.
	It just gets worse and worse.
	Have we been talking about that at all?
	Let's do it.
	I love what Taibbi changed his Twitter profile to.
	Yeah, I got some good stuff planned for him.
	Two and a half minutes.
	Alright, let me see if I can summarize a bit of this.
	The screenshots first start in, uh... What?
	The screenshots first start in, uh, number 13 on the list.
	On the Twitter thread.
	Screenshots.
	Oh, start on number 13.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Actual evidence.
	Hello, Twitter contacts.
	The master canine quality of the FBI's relationship to Twitter comes through this November email in which FBI San Francisco is notifying you it wants... Oh, wow.
	Who are these accounts?
	Jonathan M. Wade from MA?
	Wow.
	this is what we came for alright I'll read this one and then we'll go straight to Jim alrighty 90 seconds.
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	We've got Angel Tree, right?
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	Alrighty, will do.
	So, no liner.
	They just let Aubrey Huff back on Twitter.
	Who's Aubrey Huff?
	Sounds familiar.
	He's the baseball player that he was not invited to the Giants World Series reunion because he was supporting Trump on Twitter.
	So then after that, he just went ballistic for like three months, ripping everybody.
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	All right, breaking news.
	Matt Taibbi, one of the journalists being used as a conduit by Elon Musk has dropped Twitter files dump number six.
	And, And the title for this dump, this thread, is Twitter, the FBI subsidiary.
	If you go down to the first screenshot, it's from the FBI San Francisco offices.
	writing to Twitter headquarters FBI San Francisco is notifying you of the below accounts and then it lists these accounts and it is Deemed appropriate for Twitter policy actions.
	The accounts were suspended or deleted, and we have one of them, for example, very strange.
	I'm going to ask our guest, the next email from the FBI says, review, would you please review this account, it's called FromMA, for possible civic misinformation.
	Jim Carafano, Heritage Foundation.
	I'm not sure of any code violation or crime in America called civic misinformation.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Well, I've never heard of it either.
	So there's kind of three categories of things.
	One is it's illegal for the FBI to ask a private entity to do something illegal that the FBI can't do.
	So that's also illegal, right?
	It's like, well, I didn't do it.
	This guy did it for me.
	That's illegal, right?
	So that's one set of issues.
	The second set of issues is the Department of Justice and the FBI have investigatory guidelines about what's permissible and what's not.
	This is policy, right?
	Should you do this?
	For one time, the FBI was actually banned from looking up stuff on Google and websites, right?
	So that's the second set of questions.
	This is kind of like a third set of questions, which is, is this a behavior that's appropriate at all for any federal agency to be involved in?
	Why would a U.S.
	government agency be notifying a company that their policies are, on executing their policies, or on things which are actually outside the, you know, every federal agency has a code in USCC that says this is what it's created for.
	Like, so the Army, the military, it's Title 10.
	This is what the military is supposed to do.
	The FBI has one as well.
	And it doesn't include telling private companies how to enforce their regulations?
	I don't think so.
	And it also doesn't include them telling what appropriate censorship measures are.
	So, I mean, I was having... I've obviously not read the memos entirely.
	But not knowing all the context and everything else, because there may be emails before and after and everything, and it raises just tons and tons of questions about whether the behavior was appropriate or not.
	Where do you stand?
	No, and how this relationship even evolved.
	Like, what kind of relationship did the San Francisco FBI have?
	So here's my take.
	So we're both national security workers.
	And for me, when somebody says, oh my gosh, there are FBI people working at Twitter or former IC people, I say, Yeah, that's not a problem.
	If you're an SME, if you're a subject matter expert on terrorism or child pornography, you'd be hired to come in and help them make sure their platform isn't being exploited by criminals.
	But to have weekly meetings on who to censor or who to throttle down, that's not the job of law enforcement.
	Right, so I'll give you an example.
	So there are certain kinds of, it's deemed publicly available information, right?
	That a law enforcement agency might have a legitimate use to look at that, like some kinds of bank records and transactions.
	So I'll give you a good example, video feeds, right?
	So, video feeds, you go walk into the 7-Eleven, which you would never do, right?
	Because you're a high-class guy.
	But you walk into the 7-Eleven and you buy something, and then the FBI think, well, this may be your client.
	So they ask those guys, they go, hey, can I have this video feed?
	So first of all... But it has to be accredited.
	Well, that's CCT feed.
	There is no expectation of privacy, right?
	Because you're in a public space, people can photograph you if they want to, and the company can do whatever it wants to.
	And so, if the FBI has a legitimate reason to say, well, I think there's a crime there, would you share that for me?
	That's perfect.
	And that happens all the time.
	That's perfectly fine.
	I'm not sure that, that doesn't, this doesn't sound like that kind of activity.
	What do you think in the last, what has it been, three weeks of the evolving story of the Twitter files?
	So far, at the beginning, you know, I said, I'm not surprised that DNC was colluding with a company where 98% of the employees are Democrats.
	But it seems that there is a ratcheting up of seriousness.
	Well, here I would say this is a, and let's not talk about the government perspective because I just don't know, but from a corporate governance perspective, this is pretty abominable, right?
	When you say, well, what business are you in?
	And what's the purpose of that business?
	And are you being shared to your stockholders about what you're taking their money for?
	Is this appropriate or not?
	I mean, it's all kinds of...
	FTX is a good example, right?
	Criminal activity beside, this was an unbelievably, ludicrously run company, was moving billions of dollars around with literally no governance whatsoever.
	Now, we'll put aside the fact that they had a near perfect governance ESG score, right?
	So they were equitable and social and everything else.
	So they were leftist darlings, but it was just, by their own admission, an abysmally run company.
	I'd put Twitter in that category.
	This was a company that was moving billions of dollars of revenue around, and it did not seem that actually running the company for the purpose of the company being a social media platform was the primary function of the governance of the people running it, or many of the employees.
	It was a political actor.
	It had become a political machine or was being outsourced, was being used as a source for political machines.
	Look, I work at a think tank.
	If I decided to say, you know, I've got all these great connections between people all over the world.
	Let me use some of that to do some business development for myself, right?
	That would be wrong, right?
	Because that's not the purpose of the organization activity.
	It's not consistent with its bylaws, with its governance.
	Or what it says to its shareholders.
	I don't think the shareholders knew that there were weekly meetings with DNI, FBI and DHS.
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	They're acquiescing to the man, you know.
	Right.
	The left-wing rebels are sitting down with the man.
	Right.
	For weekly meetings.
	Just the absurdity.
	I know, it is pretty bizarre.
	And the complete, utter, I mean, the whole notion of diversity.
	Right.
	No, but just the whole idea that the G-Man is our welcome partner now.
	We're such rebels that we sit down with the G-Man.
	Well, this of course is the great irony of all of this, of what these things were.
	They've become the establishment.
	Right.
	Yeah, they're worse than the establishment.
	Worse than the establishment.
	What a Friday.
	What a Friday, indeed.
	What a Friday.
	Right, and before we have to record all those... Oh, let's do one of those now.
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	What's with the color of his shirt?
	It looks like he's wearing his dad's shirt and he's like a 12-year-old.
	What is it with Kinziger?
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	So you heard him there, you heard Kinzinger say, we used to, as conservatives, welcome the poor huddled masses.
	I've kind of given up on the whole border issue because having no border, no country can do that, and they're letting in millions and millions of people unaccountably.
	Do you see any resolution to this?
	Well, look, I mean, by the time of the end of Biden's term, the illegal population in the United States will be more than double what it was when he got here.
	And you would say, well, how do we fix this?
	Of course, there's the easy answer, which is we just, we know we can fix it because we've done it before, which is what President Trump did.
	You secure the border and you deport a lot of people.
	So here's the story that nobody's talking about, and which is going to really make How insidious these guys are and what's really going to make a problem for the next president.
	They're systematically dismantling all of the capacity that the U.S.
	government has to actually deport people.
	So ICE, which is the agency that does it, they've literally forced them to stop doing that.
	They're denuding the force.
	They are cancelling contracts for private detention facilities right and left.
	And this is the most important thing.
	Nobody gets deported from this country, virtually, unless they're detained.
	If you don't detain somebody, they're never going to show up to be deported.
	So I met an immigration judge at a reception recently.
	And I just, I've never met an immigration judge.
	And I said, so what's your day like?
	Are you very busy?
	No, no, no.
	I'm not allowed to do anything.
	They just shuffle them through the court.
	Exactly.
	Just shuffle them through the court.
	There's no point having an immigration court.
	So for example, a lot of the capacity for detention is private sector.
	facilities, those guys are all going to be out of business.
	So how are you going to detain people?
	So what happens to America, Jim?
	Let me ask the obvious question.
	What happens to the nation we love?
	Well, this is a...
	When does this stop?
	Yeah.
	I mean, when you get to 20 million people here illegally, that is a state, the population of a state that's bigger than every state in the United States with the exception of Now, and the burden of that is largely intolerable, because what you're doing is, you're not importing work, you're importing massive social costs.
	Crime, drugs, look, 9-11, about 3,000 people.
	How many people have died from opioids?
	107,000.
	Thank you.
	How many 9-11s?
	Math test.
	How many 9-11s is that?
	That's a lot.
	And they're all Joe Biden's fault.
	And there's no end in sight?
	Is this about votes?
	Are they that cynical?
	Well, I think ultimately it is.
	And look, we just saw this.
	I mean, literally, we saw Republicans In the 11th hour of a lame duck congressional session, let's cut a deal on amnesty if you promise to do X, right?
	Which never works.
	So yeah, in the end of the day, they think conservatives will just cave, give everybody amnesty, they'll all become voters, they'll become the new voting bloc of the left, and they'll win every election ever.
	And the opioid deaths don't matter?
	Not to them, because it's not their kids dying of opioids.
	So for the next two years, can the House do anything when it comes to the budget?
	Well, I think this is one of the real tragedies of the midterm elections because, and I'm not political, but this was a bellwether issue for so many voters.
	As a matter of fact, I think there were more Republican votes this year than ever.
	And so many people voted on this issue, but yet The president's party really didn't pay a major penalty for that.
	And the message the president took away from that, I can keep doing this.
	And in his mind, the bigger the problem gets, the more people that come, the more his side will win in the end.
	That's a level of cynicism that I find hard to internalize.
	Not really.
	We've seen it over and over.
	This is how democracy dies.
	Democracy dies when people so exploit the system itself to the point where the system self-destructs.
	Remember the justice that said democracy is not a suicide pact?
	It's not.
	But that doesn't mean that democracies don't commit suicide.
	And we are.
	I know it's Friday, but I just had to raise that because it's a serious issue.
	Maybe it will be the clarion call for some members of Congress to get serious and maybe let's start with the impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas because he is perhaps the most cynical person in this administration as a cabinet member.
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	But I've just gone to Kyle's Twitter account.
	And it's like only 882,000.
	Can we... We've got six more minutes with him.
	Can we just get him to a million by the end of this segment?
	Come on, guys!
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	Please support this brave young man.
	It's at the top of my feed.
	Do it now.
	All right, let's switch gears a little bit in that fun interview with Brandon, who's going to be with us in a moment.
	You talked guns.
	You talked AKs, ARs.
	You had fun at his expense, which is enjoyable.
	I have to say one thing now that I've got you on my show.
	Your control of your weapon during that incident in Kenosha was really impressive.
	I've been shooting since I was old enough to hold a gun.
	My dad taught me as a kid.
	I served in the British Army Reserves.
	I'm pretty good, but I'm not sure I could control myself under that level of duress.
	Tell us a little bit about firearms history in your family.
	Who taught you to shoot?
	How often did you shoot?
	Tell us a little bit about how controlled you were that day.
	Well, Sebastian, I don't have much shooting experience.
	I maybe put 100, 200 rounds through that AR.
	Wow.
	I knew the fundamentals of it.
	I knew how it worked and that's about it.
	I don't have much training.
	I was a police explorer where I learned the basics of firearm safety and a little bit about shotguns and rifles and pistols, but that's about it.
	So, what about high-stress situations?
	So, you went to a place that was being destroyed, shops being broken into.
	That takes a bit of guts.
	You said you were there to provide medical assistance if necessary.
	So, did you have kind of training in EMT, first aid?
	Is that where you maintain that coolness under those incredible conditions?
	Maybe.
	I was a firefighter EMT cadet, but I was also a lifeguard at two different pools in a swim instructor, which taught me how to handle stress pretty well, I think.
	So if you're now known for what happened at Kenosha, if you've got this new YouTube channel, you're going on, you know, Second Amendment channels as well, we have seen in the last three years, Karl, especially under COVID, this explosion of firearms ownership.
	We have at least 30, 35 million new firearms owners.
	As somebody who is now looked to as a result of your history, who's having this new YouTube channel deploying imminently, what do you say to people who've just bought a gun and haven't got lots of experience with it?
	What is your message to this massive new membership of the Second Amendment family?
	Well, I think you should take time to learn about your firearm.
	I'm no expert.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm just learning myself about More and more about firearm stuff, but educate yourself.
	If you want to own a gun, you should read up on it and figure out what type of weapon, if that's the right fit for you.
	And yeah, I think everybody should exercise their second amendment right to purchase firearms.
	And what are your plans?
	We've seen some photographs of you with the famous politicians here in Washington, D.C.
	You're a young man.
	You're a famous man.
	Can you divulge for us the kinds of things you might be doing in the future or what you would like to do in the future?
	Well, I'd really like to become a voice for the Second Amendment and just for advocating for people in general and be able to support people who've been in similar situations and Pray with them and just maybe testify upon the second amendment.
	We lost you there for a second on the Skype connection.
	You'd like to testify about what, Kyle?
	Well, about the second amendment to Congress, potentially one day, and just advocate for it.
	Advocate for why people deserve to own firearms and for pro-gun laws.
	Unlike the laws that they're trying to push now, I think we should advocate for 18- to 20-year-old constitutional carry.
	If you look at young college students, specifically young women, there's a rise in crimes against them.
	I have an 18-year-old girlfriend, and she should be allowed to carry and protect herself if the situation arises.
	Great point.
	We've got 60 seconds left.
	You went through purgatory.
	You went through hell and back.
	You're a free man.
	Give us the thing that kept you going in the darkest hours, Kyle.
	What was it?
	Praying to God.
	Really, really leaning to Him in the times that I needed Him most.
	And being able to pray and talk to Him and conversate.
	Just feeling the strength he gave me and feeling the prayers that everybody prayed.
	And yeah, God and prayers really helped in my darkest times.
	You are an impressive young man.
	We're honored to have you on the show.
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	I need to play the rest of these Schumer-Pelosi cuts, right?
	They're really, really that bad, aren't they?
	Yeah, seven's pretty good and the end of eight is good.
	All right, seven, eight.
	Let's do the funniest one first.
	Let's do five.
	Play cut five.
	Do you think President Biden should step aside for a younger generation?
	I think President Biden has done an excellent job as President of the United States.
	I hope that he does seek re-election.
	He's been a great president.
	Look at what he's accomplished.
	He should run again.
	Yeah, he's done an excellent, excellent job.
	And he runs.
	I'm going to support him all the way.
	She's stuffing her face with a sandwich.
	It's like one of these hostage videos, isn't it?
	President Biden has done an excellent job.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	Okay, let's go to cut seven.
	We sort of set him up instinctively.
	We didn't plan this.
	Everyone thought we planned it out.
	It was about the government shutdown.
	The first time.
	And Nancy said something to him about, he didn't understand, about women.
	Jeff was masterful.
	He was masterful.
	She set him up so I could go in for the kill.
	No, but he was masterful.
	He's talking to him about The government shutdown about immigrants and the rest.
	And he says, I'll take ownership of the shutdown.
	So Mr. President, will you own the shutdown?
	Yes, I will.
	And that was... Oh, thank you very much.
	Whose idea was it to film him in a Chinese restaurant?
	I mean, seriously.
	I'm not surprised they fight everybody at CNN.
	It's like the coffee boy, the producer now.
	Yeah, let's go to a Chinese restaurant and have Nancy stuffing her face.
	Yeah, we made Trump look really bad in the Oval.
	The image, the image of Chuck Schumer looking like Gollum on the edge of his chair will forever go down in history as The real Chuck Schumer.
	All right.
	And then, allegedly, Cut 9 is also funny at the end.
	This is Schumer Pelosi.
	Sorry, Cut 8, about January 6.
	And we were talking to the Secretary of the Army, the Attorney General.
	Secretary of the Army was supposed...
	It's really a tragedy that they did not send the National Guard earlier.
	They were sort of afraid to act.
	Trump had so intimidated everybody.
	You could never tell him the truth.
	You could never go contradict him.
	Have some Peking duck.
	It's good.
	I'm sorry.
	That's one of the best cuts, Jeff.
	Have some Peking duck.
	They were too scared of Trump.
	Sorry, play that again.
	Play that again.
	And we were talking to the Secretary of the Army, the Attorney General.
	Secretary of the Army was supposed... It's really a tragedy that they did not send the National Guard earlier.
	They were sort of afraid to act.
	Trump had so intimidated everybody.
	You could never tell him the truth.
	You could never go contradict him.
	Have some Peking duck.
	It's good.
	They actually said, I timed it, within eight seconds, It was a tragedy.
	Have some Peking duck!
	That's Chuck Schumer and that's Nancy.
	Next up, an amazing guest from across the Atlantic, Sargon of Akkad.
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	They're never recognized in their own land.
	Isn't that the case?
	Why is the best book, and I mean the very best book, on the greatest nation on God's green earth, America, Written by a Frenchman.
	Isn't that weird?
	Maybe it takes foreigners to understand what we have here in America.
	I want to play for you a cut from a rather smart chap who understands politics in America.
	And he doesn't have an American accent.
	In fact, his accent's a little bit like mine.
	Play cut.
	We've got no doubt that Rand Paul or Ron DeSantis could very competently implement a similar agenda.
	However, it has to be Trump, because Trump is the protagonist of an important moral story whose narrative arc has yet to resolve, and resolve it must.
	So what this reveals to us is the shape of the cartel that is currently occupying the seats of power in the United States.
	A gross, corrupted, degenerate, Machiavellian collection of villains who have decided that they cannot live in peace with their fellow countrymen and do not care about the established rules and customs of the republic in which they live.
	They will break any rule, tell any lie, and persecute any citizen as long as it helps them maintain their hold on power.
	He may go by the nom de plume and the nom de guerre of Sargon of Akkad, but he speaks proper English like what I does.
	His name is Carl Benjamin, and we're delighted to have you back on America First.
	Carl, welcome.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	It's always a pleasure.
	All right.
	Do you still hold what you said about the narrative arc of my former boss that it has to be him in 2024?
	Do you still hold by that?
	I do.
	I still would like it to be Trump.
	I have to say, though, Trump is not playing his cards right, in my opinion.
	We'll dissect all of that.
	I want to know what you mean by that.
	But first things first.
	So he is Carl Benjamin.
	He has a superb YouTube channel.
	He's back on Twitter.
	Elon Musk let him out of jail.
	You've got to follow him.
	Carl Benjamin, Sargon of Akkad.
	I think also you have another channel, The Lotus Eaters.
	Correct, Carl?
	Yeah, if you just look for the podcast of the Lotus Eaters on YouTube, then you'll find us.
	Okay, good.
	All right, I want to give you all those blurs because it's good stuff.
	You guys need to be subscribed, you need to be watching it.
	But first things first, for those who missed our last chat, which was a while ago, you're a bit of an unusual chap because I would say that you're a bit of an autodidact.
	You have very diverse interests politically, philosophically, so You're talking to three million people from California to Texas, from New York to Washington D.C.
	Tell us a little bit about your political journey and what it is you do today.
	So I was never very political.
	I wasn't really interested in politics.
	I was more someone who was enjoying my life and just getting on with things.
	And then woke politics decided to invade the cultural spaces I enjoyed.
	And it was one, then another, then another, then it was in the political system, and then it was just everywhere.
	And now you can't escape it because all of our societies have become politicized.
	And so this was about eight years ago now, something like that, that I first I started making YouTube videos just complaining, well hang on a second, I don't agree with the moral framework that's being presented to me here.
	And you weren't doing that as a conservative necessarily, right?
	No, no, I've become a conservative, but that's only because I've done the hard work and I've actually taken a look at the political landscape as it lies.
	I've spent a great deal of time reading leftist theory to understand what they think, and what they think is obvious nonsense.
	And then I spent a lot of time after that reading conservative theory to see what they thought, and actually I find that to be a much more accurate description of reality.
	You're very, very well read.
	This comes across with any of the podcasts, if you listen to your channel.
	Give me one or two of your favorite classic conservative philosophers, people who everyone should read.
	So I honestly think that Burke is the most essential starting block of any conservative journey intellectually, because it is in Burke's revulsion to the French Revolution that we see the, honestly, I think probably most eloquent explanation.
	And what I like most about it is he doesn't have any chapters.
	He's intending to write a letter back to a friend of his, but you can tell that he just goes off on a rant that ends up like 300 pages long and it's just you you can you can feel the passion where he's just like no and this and this and and so he lays out the what what is the conservative vision of what a civilization is it's not merely the here and now it's not merely a social contract where we talk about rights what we can have
	Actually, he brings a very rich perspective into what the past means for the people in the present and what the people in the present owe to the people in the future.
	And so you've got this deep and three-dimensional connection as to what the civilization you inhabit actually is.
	And most importantly, he grounds it in sentiments.
	And I think this is so much more important than we're prepared to give voice to normally.
	Explain what that means that he grounds them in sentiments, Carl.
	Sure.
	He grounds it in how we feel about these things.
	And it's very easy to fall into the bench period where facts don't care about your feelings.
	And that is true, but also... But it's also wrong politically.
	That's one of my biggest issues.
	Feelings matter.
	Facts don't care about your feelings, but feelings matter in politics!
	Exactly.
	I mean, look at John Fetterman, right?
	John Fetterman is not, um, it's easy to laugh.
	Do I have to look at him?
	I mean, do I have to look at him?
	No, carry on.
	No, but also he doesn't come across necessarily as a bad guy.
	He comes across as a guy Who's being puppeteered by others, right?
	And so he's not dislikable in the way Hillary Clinton is dislikable.
	You know, people aren't voting at John Fetterman because he's a bad person.
	He's actually someone maybe they feel a bit sorry for and end up getting positive feelings towards because of that.
	I mean, one of the reasons that Trump did so well is just because he's so likable and funny.
	And the left knew that him just making jokes was actually killing them.
	You know, Trump needs to be back in the public sphere making these jokes, frankly, because it's one of the most appealing parts about him.
	But the point is, the way that we feel about our civilizations is actually really important, because we're the ones who have to live in them.
	If our feelings aren't important, whose feelings are?
	And if someone else's feelings are important, why aren't ours?
	And if nobody's feelings are important, why are we doing any of this?
	It's funny what you say about Burke and his significance so I think I was like 14 or 15 years old and my father who was you know he escaped a communist prison uh very very you know politically well read he just threw something in randomly maybe we were watching a documentary or something and he said the French Revolution The bane of modern civilization.
	And I'm like, the French Revolution?
	I thought we're supposed to celebrate that.
	And I didn't realize until about 15 years later that he was coming out of that book and molding exactly what he meant.
	And if you want to understand the difference between the French Revolution and the antithesis, which is the American, you've got to watch Guy's hour-long interview with Os Guinness, the philosopher, because that's a core of his works lately.
	All right, let's have a little bit of fun first.
	Why were you in Twitter jail?
	What did you transgress?
	And are you happy to be back in that slime pit that is Twitter?
	Well, so five years ago I was I mean, I don't want to say under attack because it sounds more dramatic than really it is.
	But when you've got an online space, you have to make sure you patrol the boundaries of that space.
	What you feel is an appropriate form of politics and what you feel is not an appropriate form of politics.
	And I didn't feel that Nazism was an appropriate form of politics.
	And so I was being rude to Nazis on the internet to show them that, look, I'm not your man.
	I'm not interested in whatever you want to call yourselves.
	white identitarians, Nazis, whatever it is.
	I'm not a white identitarian.
	I never have been.
	And I'm not really interested in being either.
	And so they were very rude to me.
	And so I was being rude back.
	And Vijaya Gad disapproved of the way that I was being rude back to the Nazis.
	Hang on.
	You were being too rude to Nazis?
	Yes, which is also why I got banned from Patreon.
	This is not a joke, right?
	You're not pulling... This isn't April 1st.
	I'm not joking at all.
	I'm not joking.
	Don't get me wrong, I was very rude.
	Rude, rude, or inciting violence.
	What was the excuse they gave?
	Well, obviously I wasn't inciting violence.
	You know, I'm trying to internalise what too rude was.
	Too rude is...
	So I come from the sort of Ricky Gervais school of how things, how words work.
	Yes.
	And so, you know, I feel that the intent and the method of the use of the word is what is really what matters, not the word itself.
	Right.
	Because you can make very sweet sounding words sting like lashes, or you can make very harsh sounding words actually more soft.
	Depending on how they're used.
	But that's not how Twitter or Patreon view these things.
	And are you glad to be back?
	I am glad to be back.
	And I'm a nice tweeter now.
	Well, I didn't even know until I was prepping for the show, my associate producer said, and he's back on Twitter!
	Well, I'm going to check that out right after the show today.
	We talk to Carl Benjamin Sargon of ACAD, the Lotus Eaters podcast.
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	All right, Carl, let's stay on Twitter for a bit, then we'll talk about Trump, then we'll talk about what the status of our civilization is, the English-speaking peoples.
	So we are, what, week three?
	I guess week three into the hashtag Twitter Files Drops.
	At the beginning, I caused a little bit of a stir.
	The left put me in headlines along with Hunter Biden and Elon Musk because I said, Really, this is underwhelming when it comes to the first Twitter drop.
	You're telling me the Democrat Party worked with their kith and kin ideologically at Twitter?
	Oh, I'm shocked.
	I'm surprised.
	I want to see some pay dirt.
	Well, here is audio from a Twitter Spaces that I was invited on, where I asked Elon, where's the real, real deal?
	Where's the smoking gun?
	Let's play that audio.
	A lot of people are confused that it's a First Amendment issue, what was dumped by Matt Taibbi.
	The First Amendment concerns government suppression, so anything that happened before January the 20th isn't First Amendment, unless it was the Biden administration afterwards.
	So, for those who think that, you know, we've got the smoking gun and they don't need to wait for anything else, could you address that issue, Mr. Musk?
	Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, actually, there are issues if there's election interference before the government because, you know, That is, I think, an issue.
	Certainly, Twitter, it would appear that Twitter falsely claimed that there was not an election interference.
	Right, but that has to do with in-kind contributions.
	That's a very different kind of thing, and it is criminal.
	But can you tell us if there will be more smoking guns coming?
	Yeah, I think there will be more smoking guns, because the obvious next question is, well, what happened after the election?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, that's probably the right thing for episode two, is what happened after the election.
	And how long do we have to wait for episode two?
	I don't know.
	I'll check with Matt.
	So he says, I don't know.
	I'll check with Matt.
	Matt Taibbi.
	So it's clear that he hasn't read the documents.
	He's handing them over to these erstwhile left-wing conservatives.
	But he did say, I think there are smoking guns, plural.
	Give us your analysis to what we've witnessed in the last three weeks.
	Surprise, no surprise, expectations.
	Are you excited by what Elon Musk is doing?
	I think your analysis there that we just listened to is actually spot on, and it mirrors very much my analysis I gave on the podcast the other day when we covered this.
	It is obvious that the Silicon Valley tech giants have been colluding with the Democrats, and it is nice to have final confirmation of that, so they can no longer call us conspiracy theorists, obviously.
	However, like you said, Doesn't seem that we have any direct evidence of technical illegalities here.
	They are actually free to ask them to do this, and Twitter is actually free to say, yes, we'd love to do everything you ask us.
	So this really does confirm what we already knew, but doesn't tell us anything new, and I don't think provides us with a smoking gun.
	Now, I don't know what will happen with the potential Fauci files that he's teased.
	But overall, though, I have to say there is something useful and empowering about what's going on here, right?
	Because you can see that the left is very, very annoyed at Elon Musk for doing any of this.
	And Elon Musk, even if nothing of particular substance comes of this, has shown that actually he's willing to be just actually go out to try and level the playing field and say, well, listen, I'm not going to Show partisan favoritism here.
	He did say the Trump administration or campaign had requested certain things taken down as well.
	It's just there was an obvious disparity between The amount that was removed.
	So, I mean, we don't know, obviously, and fingers crossed, but I think that the spirit of what Elon is doing is in the right, in the trim, as it were.
	I think Elon is showing himself to actually be public spirited in this regard, because at the end of the day, there are going to be lots of people in the Democrat Party who actually despise the way the Democrat Party runs and wish that it wasn't such a hive of corruption.
	And the only way that they can clear out the corruption within their own party is by having it exposed as well.
	Because I think there are a lot of people in America these days who just, it's not that they like the Republican Party.
	And I have to say, I don't especially like the Republican Party either.
	I like Republicans, but the Republican Party you can see is kind of institutionally sick.
	Just the Democrat Party is so much sicker than the Republican Party.
	It's remarkable.
	There's never an admission that they've ever done anything wrong.
	And that is just the worst.
	Whenever you have someone who, like Joe Biden, should just be able to hold his hands up and say, yes, I did wrong on that, I did wrong on the other.
	But whenever you have a person who's taking a position in which there is zero fault on their part, A, you know that person's a liar, but B, you know they're covering something up.
	And, of course, I could go through the laundry list of things that the Democrat Party have done wrong, and I'll save your listeners the time, because they already know, I imagine.
	The real takeaway from this, in my opinion, is that at least one platform in Silicon Valley is now under the control of someone who isn't a rabid ideological partisan.
	Yeah, that's a big deal.
	And also, if you look, you know, there are more influential platforms in terms of penetration, such as Facebook or demographics like TikTok and, of course, Google search engine.
	But when it comes to the media and the news, Twitter is it.
	I mean, that's where the establishment journalists live.
	So that is significant in and of itself.
	We're talking to the host of the Lotus Eaters podcast.
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	So let's look at one aspect of the Twitter files.
	It plugs in, I think, to the broader analysis of The nature of the left today.
	And I see one thing that's very, very telling.
	Nobody's surprised that, you know, left in D.C.
	works with left in California.
	But when you see these screenshots being released of the internal dashboards of, you know, the Twitter, you know, sensorati, and they build tabs.
	They actually build tabs that say blacklist search or de-amplify.
	Smart people don't do that.
	That's like saying, oh here's my... I'm a murderer and I'm going to put my fingerprint on the gun and then take a photograph of the fingerprint with my phone and then put it up on my Twitter.
	These aren't very smart people, are they Carl?
	I wouldn't say that.
	I think a lot of them actually are very smart people.
	Really?
	Yes.
	And honestly, this is one of the things that the conservatives need to remember, is that a lot of leftists are actually very smart.
	They are also insanely arrogant, because not in their wildest dreams did they think that the richest man in the world was going to come along and simply buy their platform.
	But for me, that's a semantic debate, OK?
	Because I agree they're arrogant.
	But if your arrogance is so high, That you do tactically dumb things.
	You're not smart because how could you not imagine that somebody could buy your company?
	That means you're not really smart.
	You may be book learned, you may have a nice piece of paper from Harvard, but for me that's not smart.
	And that is very fair.
	You could definitely sort of zoom out and take a broader perspective on that and then assess that actually this was short-sighted of them.
	But I suppose, you know, they are Intellectually intelligent people, however, like I said, and like you said, they are ignorant in many ways, and I just think this was beyond the scope of what they thought could happen.
	I don't think they thought that this was ever going to come to light.
	And then there was one particular quote from Joel Roth, where he was asked by Jack Dorsey to write the report in simpler language, So he put a little note underneath it saying, you know, God forbid, it sounds like he's going to release this to the public.
	I was like, right, there we go.
	That's everything you need to know written in one sentence about the entire culture within Twitter.
	Any kind of sunlight being the best disinfectant was going to kill these parasites.
	And look what's happened.
	Elon Musk has fired almost all of them.
	The platform was working just as well as it's ever worked.
	And almost all of the people who were the problem with the entire company are gone.
	And your wrath, I guess, was right to be concerned.
	Now, you follow American politics very closely on your show, Gavis.
	Given what you've said about the establishment GOP, what, you know, Bannon has called the Uniparty, do you have any expectation that there will be political ramifications?
	There may be individuals who bring, you know, court cases, class action suits, but really, will there actually be concrete consequences for what we're finding out, or is the swamp too far gone?
	The swamp is definitely too far gone.
	But that, I think, is secondary to whether this is a primary concern for voters.
	So I think that one thing that we in this sort of commentary act have to remember is that this is very important to us, because Twitter is a major tool for information dissemination.
	However, if you're not invested in the same way that we are, this may seem like a sideshow to you.
	And I mean, maybe the average American's like, well, duh, look, it's in California, who cares?
	You know, get on with your lives.
	And so it could well be that we have an amplified view of the importance of this in politics more broadly.
	So where I do think the Conservatives are obviously totally justified in pointing out that this was a partisan Democrat organ that has been taken from the Democrat Party, and so this level of corruption we all knew was happening, it may be that outside of Particular political commentary circles.
	This is not very important.
	So really, I think that people like Trump should stick to the core message, which is Biden's destroying America.
	We don't want to see America destroyed.
	Biden's actually letting the American world order collapse around us, which I actually think is very unwise.
	So maybe we should do something about it.
	You know, sticking to that core message is what I think really resonates with the average American.
	And I do think what you mentioned previously that, you know, the next tranche of, you know, the COVID files, the Fauci files, that is an issue that affects everybody who lost a grandmother, lost a business, so that there will be a political blowback that may be unavoidable if we get some pay dirt in those disclosures.
	We're talking to The host of the Lotus Seeders podcast, Sargon of Akkad.
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	We have a limited amount of time left, and there's two big issues I want to hit with you guys.
	Got to talk about what President Trump has done in the last few days, what he's done in the last year.
	Get your take because I think it's going to be an interesting one.
	But before we get to that, I've been trying to connect dots on my radio show and my TV show and it's got a lot of resonance clearly with viewers and listeners.
	The whole transgender extremism and connecting the dots between Balenciaga, between Sam Brinton, the Louis Vuitton transgender thief, what's happening in the hospitals, in the schools.
	I think That this is the catalytic issue.
	For most people who are apolitical, if there is hope to bring back Western civilization from the brink, when you hear the targeting of children, Pubescent children, by surgeons, by hospitals.
	Enough people are going to say, even if they're not Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives or whatever, this is wrong.
	Am I putting too much faith in this issue or do you think the average person's response to the transgender extremists is going to be the wake-up moment?
	I do actually agree with you completely.
	I think this has been a massive wake-up moment for many, and this is the important part, parents across the country, and across my country, across your country, just the English-speaking world where this ideology is taking root, because this is invading the home.
	They are giving young people, very young people, teenagers, a set of instructions on how to essentially attempt to morally upbraid their parents.
	In order to overthrow the sort of, you know, natural familial hierarchy of a household, in order to try and force the parents to deny reality.
	And that is insane.
	That's actually a crazy gambit that they are playing.
	But it's also classically Maoist.
	I mean, to drive the wedge between the child and the parent.
	We've seen this before, Carl.
	Absolutely.
	You are right.
	Nothing new under the sun.
	It's also, I think, probably the most evil thing the left is capable of doing.
	Any healthy worldview would seek to reinforce family bonds and make parents and children love each other more, not less.
	And so when you have this kind of virulent venom That is pumped into the minds of children and causes them to try and overthrow the moral authority of their own parents.
	You know that didn't come from themselves.
	That's not what children try to do.
	And it also is not to their own benefit.
	I mean, how is it good to put children at odds with their own parents for children?
	It's of course awful.
	But like I was saying, it's also The most audacious thing the left can do, because it is to force people to deny the reality that they see in front of their own eyes.
	The peak position of the party in 1984, as Orwell puts it.
	The most important thing, because if they can get you to deny that a man is a man and a woman is a woman, well, what is off the table from that point onwards?
	That's it.
	They've got everything.
	A few weeks ago at Mar-a-Lago, we were there, we heard the President announce his campaign for re-election and he talked about this issue, the targeting of the most vulnerable in our society, how we've got to stop the mutilation, the sterilization of children.
	Yesterday on my show, I took to task his communications team for dropping that.
	Crazy NFT thing on the same day that he actually dropped a very serious policy video, a substantive and good policy video that was drowned out by this commercial venture.
	I want to get your take on where he's at right now.
	Two years is a lifetime in politics, so he can win if he's got the right team.
	But talk to us about, from the other side of the pond, how you're seeing a 45 and his chances of being 47.
	I didn't know he dropped a policy video.
	What was the policy?
	That's the problem.
	He did a, what was it, three, what was it Eric?
	Like a three minute long policy video on the freedom of speech.
	And it was, you know, it was nicely produced and it dropped the same morning as the trading card thing.
	And I texted Mar-a-Lago, I texted his head of comms saying, dude, what the hell are you doing?
	Dropping it on the same day?
	Nobody's talking about the policy video!
	Yeah, I didn't even know it existed.
	That's actually staggering mismanagement, actually.
	This leads into the problem I think Trump is having at the moment.
	It's actually one of relevance, right?
	Because at the moment, nothing much is happening, and he's not in a position to make things happen.
	I do respect the fact that he made his own social media now.
	This is the same thing.
	The TruthSocial platform.
	Exactly.
	This is the same thing we've done with Notices.com.
	It's good to have something that you're in control of.
	So the tyrants at Silicon Valley, if they choose to simply go, right, that's you done, you have a backup and you can continue to exist.
	However, the situation has changed.
	Now I realize that he may be in some way legally obligated to use TruthSocial, maybe exclusively, but he really needs to, I think, Speak to whoever his backers are, whoever has this contract with him, and say, look, we actually lose a lot of impact by this being the case.
	I mean, maybe some sort of privileged access to his statements.
	So if he has to post on Truth Social and then it can be automatically posted on Twitter or something like this.
	But while he's in this silo, he is controllable because what the left can do is they can take anything they want from his feed and then post it on Twitter or in their news articles and then that's that.
	But as far as they're concerned, and I realize there's probably a few million people using Truth Social, but he had like 100 million people on Twitter.
	Right.
	And so they understand that that's a silo, but that's of course supporters who already are going to vote for him anyway.
	That's not persuading new people.
	Whereas if he has his message on the giant megaphone, which and everyone knows that Trump's Twitter account was like his flaming sword when he would go after someone.
	And it was it was beautiful.
	And I loved it.
	And I really want him to come back because it was that the fact that it was in their space that he was swinging the sword.
	That's what made it powerful.
	And that's what drove them crazy.
	And that's why there was literally an insane cult inside of Twitter who admitted that he had broken the rules but needed to get rid of him because they saw him as a terrorist.
	I mean, they literally call him a Nazi in their own trust and safety documents.
	So he needs to find a way to come back to impact the public dialogue, not just the MAGA dialogue, because obviously he commands that on Truth Social.
	No, he does.
	He does.
	And, you know, I only post now and again just segments from my show on Truth Social.
	And organically, without bots, it's already like 600,000 followers, but it's the MAGA universe.
	So you're absolutely right.
	Very wise words.
	Being the, you know, the sword of justice on somebody else's platform is why he had 93, 94 million followers.
	So here's my recommendation, Mar-a-Lago, and I'll send this to you guys formally.
	Have somebody else post on his account.
	If he's got non-compete stuff with his financiers at Truth Social, then have his press people post on his account.
	Of course, telling them what to post, but then you get around the legal obstructions.
	We're talking To the host of the Lotus Eaters podcast, Carl Benjamin, Sargon of Akkad, back on Twitter.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	All right, that's absurd.
	We're at the end of our discussion.
	That literally flew by.
	We have to do this more often.
	Last question.
	Let's squeeze in two more questions.
	Your place is unusual.
	You're like my buddies at the Trigonometry podcast, Francis Foster and Konstantin Kissin, that you're a Brit, but you're looking 80% of the time at America.
	Is that a weird position to be in?
	Yes and no.
	The importance of America to the English-speaking world can't really be overstated.
	And so what happens there echoes over here very, very loudly.
	And so Really, there's no point waiting for the echo to arrive when you could just pay attention to the loudspeaker at the beginning.
	When you're following the events here and you're seeing, you know, you're translating them in terms of the prism that is Brexit and the death of conservatism or the Conservative Party in the UK, where do you stand?
	Yeah, where do you stand in terms of being an optimist about, you know, Burkean principles in the civilization?
	Are you an optimist or are you a pessimist?
	I actually, sorry, I've got a bit of a throat thing going around here.
	I am actually a natural optimist.
	I actually have a lot of faith in human agency and in our collective agency.
	I think that actually, if we work together, we can do whatever we want, actually, practically within reason.
	So I am naturally optimistic, but there's no denying we are in quite a dark period at the moment.
	Things I think are not going well on the world stage, and things are also not going well internally to our own civilizations.
	There's a different, not necessarily a different kind of rock, but it's expressing itself in different ways in America and in the United Kingdom and in Canada, which is practically gone, I would say.
	Yeah, New Zealand as well, you know, the Anglosphere is is suffering under a weight of its own lack of self-conviction.
	Is there a hankering at least in the UK for a classic conservative party?
	Without a doubt.
	One of the interesting things you find in the United Kingdom is the support for each party is always given in percentiles, but actually this isn't representative of people Switching sides.
	What happens in the United Kingdom when the Conservative Party is phenomenally low in the polls is because people simply refuse to assent to supporting them.
	It isn't that they go to the other side.
	It's they say, no, I'm just going to let you get crushed at the next election.
	They're just disgusted with their party.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Because you don't represent me.
	And in no way does the Conservative Party represent Conservatives over here.
	And so it is bad.
	And the Reform Party has been on the upswing recently.
	As a protest movement.
	This is Nigel Farage's retooled Brexit party, which for anyone watching who happens to be in the United Kingdom, go and support.
	Do not support the Conservative Party.
	They are a captured party and by the World Economic Forum.
	So do not support them.
	Support the Brexit party, support Nigel Farage.
	Let's see if we can get some motion over here, which would be good.
	But I'm actually not terribly optimistic because I think come the next election, we're going to end up with Keir Starmer, who has recently put out a manifesto that essentially wants to reenact the French Revolution over here.
	It seeks to essentially break apart the United Kingdom into a series of Samuel Thomas provinces, which sounds like it could end up like the American Republic, but of course it won't.
	It'll end up like the French Republic.
	But also Britain isn't a social contract society.
	We actually don't have the same long tradition that the United States has.
	And the reason I think that the United States works so well is because, actually, if you think about the social contract the United States has, it's very limited, actually.
	It speaks mainly about the government and the people.
	It has nothing to say about how the people deal with one another.
	So it rests on deeply conservative and religious foundations.
	And so, yeah, that works great, actually, as long as you have Americans and people who believe in Americanism running it.
	But we're not like that.
	We haven't got that tradition.
	And Keir Starmer is obviously very influenced by continental ideas.
	So he's going to try and bring over a French-style Republican view and impose that on this ancient constitutional monarchy.
	It's going to go badly.
	I think it's going to be horrendous, to be honest.
	Well, hopefully there won't be a guillotine outside 10 at Downing Street.
	We've been talking to a modern-day de Tocqueville.
	Follow him at the Lotus Eaters podcast.
	He's back on Twitter.
	Sargon of a card.
	I'm wishing you and your kin a very, very Merry Christmas.
	You've been listening to America First one-on-one with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.

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