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This is America First.
And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen. - Yeah.
Hey folks, I am glad to be sitting in Seb's chair again because he is in Israel with 350 smart listeners who decided to see that wonderful land with him.
They were at the Temple Wall.
They're seeing all the sights.
It's amazing, and I wish I was there, but somebody has to be here, and I'm gonna enjoy that, and so will you, I hope.
I want to talk about a couple things today, but I gotta tell you, Christmas is coming, and my book, the audio version, just came out yesterday, and you can listen to me telling you what I wrote about how to get paced.
And I think it's entertaining.
I think the one thing I like when authors read their own books, because I know what I meant, And I can't trust someone else to do that, so that's why I did it myself.
It takes about 12 hours to record all of it.
So I hope you enjoy it because it's got some good ideas on how to stand up for yourself against the woke mob and how to live a positive life.
And all of us can use those things.
So check it out.
It's available at Amazon.
But what I want to talk about today is we got a major problem with the GOP, the Grand Old Party, the Republican Party, the Republican National Committee in particular.
It has been a mess for as long as I can remember.
It's always been the moneybags of the G.O.P.E.
The establishment, the rhinos, the moderates, the spineless weaklings who don't want to fight.
Well, fortunately, we had Donald Trump come in and shake things up and teach people that you can fight and win.
And he basically saved the republic by winning that election in spite of the RNC and everyone else and getting us the Supreme Court justices we need to keep this republic functioning.
But if we don't change leadership at the RNC, we are not going to manage to take that opportunity and capitalize on it.
And we're going to let the left consolidate their institutional power, their deep state control, and they will administrate us out of existence.
So we need change, and fortunately we have someone who can bring us that.
Harmeet Dhillon, who is a stalwart lawyer, a brilliant woman, a fighter for our team, has thrown her hat in the ring for the position of RNC chair to replace Ronna McDaniel, who has failed to do a decent job the past three elections.
So I want anybody who's out there, and I understand Lee Zeldin is also someone who's under consideration for this.
Lee's a great guy.
He would be great too.
But I think Harmeet is also already on the inside at the RNC.
She's been doing the RNC election work, trying to fight as much as they would let her.
We need to give her the reins because she understands the rules of the game we're fighting and she will empower the people within both the RNC and outside to do the things necessary to let our team win.
So I 100% back her.
for the position of RNC chair.
And I hope any of you, here's what you can do is figure out who are the RNC or the state chairs of the GOP, the party, the Republican Party in your state.
That's who votes.
All right, they nominate people to represent them at the RNC.
And this end of January, they're going to vote on a chair.
Tell your state party you want Harmeet Let me tell you a little story about how broken.
In 2019, as you recall, Donald Trump was president.
Life was good.
Gas was cheap.
The economy was rolling.
But we had a reelection coming up, and a lot of us were concerned because we had seen some evidence of pre-shenanigans by the Democrats.
They've been doing bad things for a long time.
Obviously, the dead vote in Chicago.
But in this case, there was specific information about shenanigans in Orange County, California.
Now, Orange County is one of the few truly red places in Southern California.
Right there in the midst of all of that blue craziness and woke nuts is Orange County and all of the people there who understand what this country needs.
They also had representatives who were of the same mind.
And in 2018, a bunch of those people lost elections in what should have been very safe seats.
And some smart local activists decided to figure out why.
And they dug into the voter rolls, and they saw that the Democrats had been registering people under basically fake addresses.
They had found dozens of people registered at a dog park, at a Starbucks, at government buildings as their home addresses listed.
Then the interesting thing, they had a mailing address in common that was in Sacramento.
And guess who owned that mailbox?
Gray Davis, California foreigner governor, Democrat, his wife.
So if you don't see a problem there, you're not paying attention.
And we did.
They gave us this information and it was well evidenced.
It was ready to go into a follow-on investigation and probably have lawsuits filed.
And you know what we did with it?
We, myself and my wife who I work with, took it to the RNC.
And we said, look what we have.
We have a bunch of information that says the Democrats are doing shenanigans in Orange County.
And this was before 2020.
Remember, one year, November 2019.
And we told them, this is something they did there.
It looks like a test of a system to see if they can do this.
It looks like they tested to see if they could register enough people, harvest enough ballots, and then change the outcomes of elections.
And guess what they did?
They bounced Republicans from seats in Orange County.
So we told them this, and you know what they said?
Well, yeah, that's really interesting.
We're not going to do anything about it, but maybe you should call Harmeet Dhillon, who's a private attorney at that point, did work with the RNC, and talk to her about it.
So we did.
And she told us that the RNC would not fund this investigation.
Before 2020, when we could have potentially stopped the cheating and fraud and everything that they did to send out ballots and harvest and all the things they did in that election, they knew about a year before and did not one single thing to stop it.
They ignored it and refused to fund it and instead they spent the money like they always do by feathering the beds of their friends at the country club You know, their idiot cousin at the country club who has a political consulting firm and who likes to burn hundred dollar bills, you know, for the purposes of buying himself a new boat, as opposed to doing anything that's going to win elections.
The RNC is broken.
Our political machine is broken.
We need to fix it.
I vote for Harmeet, I'm not a delegate, but I vote for her and I will campaign for her and I'm asking you, find out who your state chairs of the Republican Party are, tell your friends, deluge them with information that says if you re-elect Ronna McDaniel, you will not have our support.
We will give our money to other organizations that are willing to actually fight for us.
We're not going to continue to let idiots burn money making scary 30-second attack ads that they get a big kickback and a commission on.
We need actual reform.
We need ballot harvesting.
We need early voting.
We need new voters.
We need better messaging.
We need better candidates.
We need a political machine invested in winning, not enriching themselves.
So let's do it.
Right?
We're in charge of this.
They work for us.
And every time you get a message from them, send back a message that says, get us a leader who will fight.
And that sure as heck ain't Ronna McDaniel.
All right, we got a lot going on.
There's a ton of fun stuff today.
We'll dig into the Twitter files.
We're going to talk a little bit about some journalism bills.
We're going to actually talk about the rest of the ways that we can start winning elections.
So I hope you're going to enjoy the show.
It's all think good thoughts to Seb and the lucky listeners who are there in Israel enjoying an amazing trip.
Next time, I suggest, listen to Seb.
Go on the trip.
Israel's amazing.
This is Jim Hanson.
I am sitting in the America First chair.
We're going to make some plans to take control of our team.
Back after the break.
Mike's back on.
Right on.
Yeah.
There must be a hostile takeover of the Republican Party at this point.
You damn Skippy.
I love that.
Go talk to Harmeet.
Well, we won't fund it though.
That's just, that's perfect.
That's the RNC in a nutshell.
Come on, November of 2019.
We could have changed everything.
Oh yeah.
By the way, you have almost 1,200 people watching on a Rumble right now, Jim.
Rumble on!
Rumble rock.
Remember, Rumblers, your duty today.
Give us a good topic.
Let us know.
All right, so Rumble chat, you've got the ball.
Make up some crazy stuff you want me to talk about in the third hour.
And I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't have a dog in the fight today.
Yeah.
So you guys, it's on you.
Pick whatever you want.
Pop culture.
Politics.
Freddy vs. Jason.
We don't have to do the bad TV or movie things, do we?
Hey, I see Will!
You got a thing going on, I like that!
Yeah, I got a little bit of a beard.
Wanna keep the mics on?
We'll see if I keep it.
Yeah, let's do it.
We're live with Rumble, just so you know.
I like it, dude!
Have I ever seen you with a full one?
No, not really.
Yeah, but it's on the whole face.
Yeah.
Looks good.
Looks good.
Two and a half minutes.
All right.
So how's life, man?
Life's good.
Same old, same old.
I'm reading Beebe's autobiography, which I recommend.
That's interesting.
I've got a good buddy who was on his kitchen cabinet, and he's a former Israeli Intel guy, and I've heard some stories that are just so much fun.
I wonder how many of those made it into the autobiography, so I'll check it out.
He's just an amazing dude.
He's brilliant.
He reminds me of a Lee Kuan Yew type, just one of these super smart people who runs a country and just keeps running it.
Every time they say, oh no, we're done, we've gotten rid of you, he's like, I don't think so.
I'll step over here for a minute.
I think I'm the most confident person here, so I think I'm going to come back.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, you can dislike him, and I understand why people do, but those people don't like the policies that keep Israel alive.
They're the ones who live in that delusional world where the Palestinians want peace, and that's not Earth.
You know, it's not planet Earth and the Palestinians don't want this.
The Palestinians are going to need to be bullied into peace and nobody's been willing to do that.
The only time they will do it is when they have been beaten and forced to surrender.
The interesting thing was during the Trump administration, the Abraham Accords, the first thing that had to happen was the Saudis had to tell the Palestinians and everybody else, screw you guys.
You know?
Iran's a bigger threat.
And we're done with you guys being the first thing that has to happen for us to do anything else in the region.
And it was a sea change.
You know, people freaked out because they were like, wait a minute, you can't do that.
And they were like, we kind of just did, you know?
Pretty sure that's what we told them.
Right.
Yeah, that was fun.
it's fast all right um um i think we'll do two with like second to last second There you go.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
Welcome back, folks.
Again, glad to be sitting in for Seb, who is in Israel with 350 lucky listeners.
Great trip.
But what we want to do now is I want to bring in Will Chamberlain, who is senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project.
And Will, welcome to the show, first of all.
Obviously great to be with you, Jim.
Yeah, man.
I want to talk a little bit about the new online information space that is unfolding before our very eyes.
I mean, obviously, we've got we've got Elon, who is causing a tremendously disruptive ruckus that I am enjoying every second of.
You know, and so there's change there.
And I think there are other things going on.
And I don't know that I've heard articulated.
And so I want to kind of mull over with you what any of this should look like.
So one of the things that's happening right now is what they call the Journalism Competition and Preservation Act, which immediately made me feel skeptical, you know, because, first of all, it sounds like a bailout for journalists.
And it is.
But what they did is when it first started, it was a bailout for journalists, including like the New York Times and Fox and everyone else.
So it was a way for them to kind of get paid.
And the rationale for it is Google and Facebook put, you know, the lead and a link to the story on their site and siphon away traffic from these people.
And so now they're saying that Google and Facebook and others should have to pay them for that.
Okay, and at some level, I understand there should be a commercial relationship there.
But it really sounded like a rent-seeking way to tax Google and those guys.
Not that I'm in support of Google or any of those guys.
But I want to get your thoughts on, as we look at online content, who owns it and who should get paid?
You know, that's really the question.
Yeah.
And I mean, there's, I think there's a number of things to consider.
First off, I mean, you know, Salem's on conservative media.
I've used to run a conservative media outlet.
I can tell you, it's a very, very challenging thing to do just from a business perspective.
And it's much more challenging now than it would have been say 20 years ago when the internet was less dominant in terms of how people got their news.
And so there's a real case to be made that, you know, there's a reason a lot of conservative outlets, places like the Daily Caller and the Washington Examiner and the Washington Times are all in support.
Of this bill is because I think they see it as a very key lifeblood to keep their operations going.
And as someone who ran human events, I understand where they're coming from.
It's really hard to make money advertising.
The way to think about it is it's collective bargaining for smaller media outlets and smaller journalistic enterprises.
It gives them the ability to bargain collectively with Google and Facebook for the right to display and link to their content.
Um, and I think, you know, if I have to choose between a collection of media outlets, some of which are a good chunk of which are liberal, but a number of which are also conservative and would, and really need something like this versus Google and Facebook, I think it's a pretty clear choice.
Google and Facebook have been, you know, deeply adversarial to our interests for a long time and they're, they're massive monopolies themselves.
So I don't, I think that if anything, you know, this is, this is a way to sort of balance the playing field a little bit.
Yeah, and okay, at some point we as conservatives have to overcome our natural and proper instinct to hate governmental interference when the other team has already won the game and broken a system.
So in this case, this is a kind of a cabal, you know, a collective bargaining, you know, to do it, but whatever.
It's a way to create a collective to bargain against them in a non, you know, way that I would choose, but to break a monopoly.
You know, and to stop monopolistic predatory business practices by Google and Facebook that, as you said, are damaging our cause.
And I think there's a there's a lesson to be learned, at least in the short term, that we're at war.
You know, this is a cultural war and a war for the republic against the statist left.
And even if we have to use some statist techniques in the short term, it beats losing Right.
I mean, and this is a, you know, there's sort of the traditional idea about monopoly power was, you know, oh, well, the key thing to realize is that the only problem with monopoly powers is if it's bad for consumers, right?
If monopolies are essentially using their power to charge exorbitant prices, and because there's no competition, consumers are hurt.
That's the only problem with monopoly power.
What Google and Facebook have demonstrated is that there's other problems with monopoly power, too, and the big one being what happens when they start using their monopoly power to instantiate their political beliefs and to put their thumb on the scale on domestic politics.
And the amount of power that they have is pretty dramatic.
And so, you know, for a long time, I look at the monopoly power possessed by Google and Facebook.
If it's going to be used politically against conservatives, then conservatives shouldn't be simply oblivious to the idea of using government power to weaken it.
And here's something I think we need to consider in this, because let's do that.
We have to.
It would be dumb not to.
Don't use weapons you have in a fight.
But here's what I worry about.
When I look at anyone who does a search for anything online, Google pretty much decides what you're going to find.
You know, they dominate search in a way that's intolerable to me, but it's a fact right now.
Now, I wonder what's going to happen when they have to pay for conservative content.
You know, are they simply going to game the algorithms then?
And okay, well, it just won't show up in searches at all, you know, because that's the way they play it.
We'll have to pay for everybody's content, including conservatives.
I think that's the underlying logic here.
Conservatives aren't getting their own unique cartel and collective bargaining arrangement for themselves.
They'll be part of a broader collective bargaining arrangement, including progressives.
And one of the concerns that arose out of that was the idea that progressives would use that power to sort of impose different content restrictions on the conservatives.
But there's been amendments.
I think Ted Cruz had the specific amendment that basically said, no, this is collective bargaining in terms of monetary compensation only.
Like you guys can bargain for more payment from the companies, but you can't bargain about side issues.
From my perspective, that's a good thing.
But my concern is that everyone would, so you get set a rate.
Okay, you're going to link my story, you set a rate, you have to pay this amount per click or whatever it is or view, you know, however they set that up.
But again, no one's going to see that view Unless Google allows it to be seen in search, because we're talking about the way Google and Facebook import links and the lead of a story, and then create a scroll of those stories when you search for content.
And they already game that system.
You know, so conservative ideas generally are not on even page one of a Google search.
You know, that's the fun thing to do is do a Google search against, say, DuckDuckGo.
You know, and you're going to see two completely different worlds as far as what it is.
So I'm not sure that this is going to fully solve the problem.
I think it solves the monetization thing.
And I think it's good for there to be a cartel that's breaking a monopoly.
Good.
Let's do that.
But then I think there's a follow on that we're going to have to deal with about the algorithms they use, which I am 100% certain are very ideologically oriented.
Yeah, I mean, this bill solves one very discreet problem that is not maybe at the core of the problem of big tech at all.
It doesn't mean it's not a good thing.
You don't want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
But yeah, it doesn't do anything about algorithmic manipulation.
It doesn't do anything about the broader censorship of conservatives or deplatforming conservatives.
It doesn't do anything about their broad monopoly power in a sense.
It gives one particular group of of companies the ability to negotiate collectively and get better rates.
And, you know, so those companies include some companies that should be very important to conservatives like conservative media companies.
So, you know, I think it's a good thing.
It's a start.
I don't think it's necessarily, you know, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, then let's let's.
Let's take a break here and afterwards I want to talk about what we should do about the rest of it because that's where I see the opportunity now is Elon opened the door.
He kind of put, you know, shape charges on it and blew it to smithereens and now there's an opportunity to change things.
So we'll be back with Will Chamberlain, Senior Counsel for the Internet Accountability Project, with more America First Radio after the break.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Portugal's putting it on Switzerland.
Five goals.
Oof.
Ouch.
Are you watching soccer?
No, I just checked the Twitter feed.
I'm not watching it right now.
But I've been watching a lot of World Cup.
Really?
Of course I have.
I'm a soccer fan.
I like soccer.
You know, I wish I liked... I played soccer.
It's more fun to play than to watch because there aren't enough goals.
My thing I say would fix both soccer and hockey for a lot of people is make the goals 25% bigger.
And then you're talking about, you know what I mean?
9-6 is a much more entertaining 90 minutes than 1-0.
Yeah, I could see a good argument for making the goals bigger.
See?
What does it hurt?
I mean, you're playing the same game, nothing else changes.
Tweak the offside rules, that's another good one.
Offsides is a little fruity, but it's not that hard a rule.
You know, I also ref side.
It's not.
It's just you want to, you want to, essentially you want to give, basically it's like if any part of the attacker's body is beyond any part of the defender's body, it's offside.
And you want to shift that to maybe, if you shift that to the entire body of the attacker head.
Right.
Yeah, he's a step past.
Little tweaks like that, you'll get a lot more goals.
See?
Okay.
I'm fine.
Yeah, that's all I want.
I want a few more goals, because I don't, and it stops the incentive to always kick the ball backwards.
You know, there's nothing to me more infuriating than watching a defensive-minded team kick the ball backwards, and I'm like, wow, that's impressive.
What, you're scared?
You know what I mean?
It's fear-based football.
One of those impactful changes to soccer rules was when they stopped goalies from being able to pick up the ball when it was passed back to them.
It's a small rule change, you think, but it dramatically changed how the game was played.
I got thrown out of a game one time for wiping out a goalie.
Because it's one of those things, they treat the goalie like he's not one of the 11 players on the field.
And so there was a ball coming in, and I was running on it, and he was running on it, and he bent down to pick it up, and I kicked it and blew through him.
I like soccer.
It keeps going.
You know, I kicked it in my leg.
A goal is like a beating.
Yeah, and he did a flippy flip, and they were like, oh, it was a fight.
It was actually a legitimate brawl.
It was kind of fun.
Yeah, I know, and there's soccer.
Soccer becomes a little more like hockey.
You know, everybody enjoys it.
Soccer can be entertaining, huh?
Yeah, it's just you got to be willing to get thrown out.
I don't know.
I like soccer.
It keeps going.
You can kind of – it's on in the mornings, so it's like great on a weekend morning.
There you go.
You know, you're eating breakfast, drink coffee, reading the newspaper, and when the goals come, like the voices go up at the TV.
So you don't have to, like, actively watch.
There you go.
It was a great exercise.
Playing it was good.
I think the coolest thing, dude, I played soccer in the Nuremberg Stadium in Germany.
Like where Hitler did the big rally and the platform was still there.
And that was a little freakish.
I mean, seriously, because most of the stadium was gone, but that piece was still there.
And you could picture it from the Lenny Riefenstahl from Triumph of the Will.
You could see all of that.
And we're playing ball right where all the troops were masked.
Yeah, that was a little freakish.
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Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey, glad to be back.
Okay, Will Chamberlain and I, senior counsel of the Internet Accountability Project, are about to fix online content and all of it.
So, Will, we got like five minutes.
Here we go.
I think that there's an opportunity now to break the monopoly the left has had on our information space, because not just the Twitter files, which were anti-climactic, I think, on purpose.
I think Elon held a lot back, but there's plenty of evidence and more will come out that the government has been colluding with tech and the left and the media to shut down ideas they want.
So I think we're going to have an opportunity to fix that and to change that.
So I'm just curious, aside from now having a free zone in Twitter, what else can we do to try and force the leveling of the playing field?
So I think the big change to how you want to approach regulation is that before Elon bought Twitter, you kind of wanted to use every single tool at your disposal.
And whether or not they hurt the companies really badly or didn't or didn't provide as much benefit as they could have, you know, didn't matter.
You just a hammer was an appropriate tool to deal with the fact that the entirety of big tech was arrayed against the conservative movement.
And just take a, you know, like Section 230 reform, for example, it's kind of a blunt instrument to use against big tech.
But now, We're in a unique situation where all of a sudden we have one of the big tech companies and not just a big one, maybe perhaps the most societally consequential one in Twitter.
You can argue, in my view compellingly, that everything that appears on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, it's usually derivative of what happens on Twitter because that's where the sort of public debate is had and resolved before people generate content on those other platforms.
We need to kind of look at regulation a little differently with more of a scalpel than a hammer.
And so you're trying to find ways to, you know, still go after companies like Facebook and Google and Instagram and TikTok and companies like that while making sure that Twitter isn't, you know, you're not opening up Twitter to severe litigation, which obviously the left would want to do now because Twitter is no longer in their hands.
So they want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg, even if, you know, it kills their own friends too.
Okay, so now looking forward, then I think we want to kind of scare the other companies into opening up a little bit more freedom of speech now that they've seen, first of all, we caught them colluding.
You know, and that information to come out.
I know we personally have information we've given and will be giving more of to the House Oversight Committee and Senate and other people who will be holding hearings that is going to show direct collusion between Biden administration officials and, you know, people at the big tech companies telling them what and who to censor.
That's bad.
All right.
And their boards are not going to like that.
So is that now the lever we use?
Do we go like the ESG?
You know, stock things and put the influence on the boards to change corporate behavior?
I think we do that.
I also think you try and craft regulations in a way that, you know, affects the other companies more than it does, say, Twitter.
So.
For example, Elon's, you know, rewriting, I assume his, uh, the terms and sort of, you know, the terms and services of Twitter, uh, and already just in terms of what he's been doing in terms of bringing people back onto the platform, changing the enforcement of like COVID-19 rules and misgendering rules.
You see that he's, you know, narrowing the scope of content moderation.
You could easily find a way to, you know, create, you know, go back to the idea that I've talked about for a long time, the idea of talking about how platform access is a civil right.
And then sort of make Elon's rules the standard that everybody else has to follow and that if they don't follow them and if they're more restrictive on citizen speech, we argue that that would constitute a civil rights violation.
That would be one example of trying to take what used to be a blunt object saying that everybody needed to have access to a platform for any reason and then tailoring it so we aren't messing too much with Elon's Twitter.
But we're messing with the other companies.
That's, that's kind of the idea I'm getting at.
Yeah.
I like that.
What about common carrier status?
You know, is that too blunt at this point?
You know, I've always liked it because if you serve more than a million people, you should serve them all.
Can we use that?
I think we could.
I think again, it would need to be, you want to have, again, the changes you want carve outs to make sure that it's not restricting Twitter's operations too heavily or giving the existing regime the opportunity to go after Twitter.
And so there's a lot more care that has to be done.
I mean, it's really interesting.
Section 230 for reform, I think, now is very challenging, because if you change Section 230, you definitely give people the ability to sue Twitter, and you give over content that appears on Twitter.
And that's not something I don't think the conservative movement wants to enable now, because Twitter is now a friendly place.
And it's one of the few places where we're now allowed to have our voices shouted.
And we never were the ones who wanted to regulate.
We were only, like you said, we'll use the tools we have to, to do what we have to do.
Well, those are great ideas and let's keep it going.
I want to continue this conversation with the audience.
An open phone lines up 833-33-GORKA 833-334-6752.
Give us a call and let us know what you think about free speech.
Will, Will Chamberlain, thanks for being on the show.
Senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project and one of the smart guys I like to bring on because he's always got a good idea.
This is Jim Hanson sitting in for Seb.
We'll be back after the break.
We'll be back after the break.
Everything else is derivative.
You know, it's either derivative of mainstream media content, but there is only one place where you go head to head.
And that's always was that was the reason I like Twitter was because I could speak truth to power.
You know, I could take a New York Times columnist, tag them, tell them why their story was demonstrably false, and they hate that.
And they would respond.
And then, you know, I'd get to argue with them.
And, you know, more of them hide now, but there's still enough of them who can't, you know, because journalists are so narcissistic.
They are self-obsessed.
Yeah.
So if you're talking about them, they absolutely have to be listening and they check their mentions constantly.
And I get, I get, you know, that's to me, that's the joy is the fact that we can have that direct comms with, with them, with politicians, you know, with, with anybody.
Not over time at once, but gradually in favor of TikTok, which is definitely on the rise.
The problem with TikTok is it's just what are you going to do?
Most people don't want to do videos.
You know, I think TikTok is going to get banned.
I do too.
Kristi Noem banned it in North Dakota.
Trump, that was one of his biggest failures.
He should have.
There was no reason.
No, but here's what I think.
All the other like Silicon Valley, it's a competitor to them.
So they'll buy into it.
You know what I mean?
To try and get it ticked off.
Because it's going to help them out.
And they're all doing YouTube Shorts now.
Facebook has it too.
Instagram, yeah.
Everyone always says, oh, video's the next new thing.
They've been saying it for 10 years.
And it is.
It's important.
But it's never been a replacement for text.
And it never will be.
There's just too many people who don't want to put their face out there.
But I mean, video content.
I mean, long for video content.
Yeah, YouTube will always be the one.
I don't think anything's ever going to take YouTube down.
But TikTok is just a whole new, like the level, like young people, especially Zoomers, they are obsessed with it.
They're more addicted to it than they are to Twitter.
Well, and Twitter is, Elon's adding long form video.
He already said they're going to 40 gig file limit on video and they're going to have a hosting page.
So if they set it up so that you can have a destination page, your profile is now not just a profile, it's a destination page where your content can live.
I'll put everything I do there.
And I'll make a video every morning.
I'll wake up.
I'll drink my coffee.
I will get outraged.
I will turn on the camera.
Pay your eight bucks.
Drop your eight bucks in the tip jar, and I will tell you the truth.
I still cannot get over Elon tweeting at AOC, cool, now pay me eight bucks.
Dude, that is so good.
We needed him.
I mean, he's a breath of fresh air.
We needed it.
People were sharing that picture of him and Trump meeting at the White House, and it would just be like, if we ever manage to save Western civilization, the list is very short of who to thank.
I agree.
I mean, well, you go back to Reagan and Maggie Thatcher and Pope John Paul II, but that's a different era.
Saved it from a different thing.
That was the last time, and we had to save ourselves from the Soviets and commies.
Now it's a different flavor of socialism and communism.
Wokeness is just adding on climate hysteria, gender, and racist BS to the old school socialist garbage.
They replaced that with, you know, the class warfare with Woke Warfare.
Someone in the chat says, Jim is wearing Golf Links camo.
Ooh, kinda.
I like that.
that it's the black and tan is the is the flavor 15 seconds golf you welcome
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All right.
Well, that was a good conversation with Will Chamberlain.
I love talking to Will.
He just never fails to have smart ideas.
And what I want to do, though, is now I want to talk to America, because so do you guys.
And that's part of the game is this is an ongoing conversation about how we can win this republic back.
So let's go to the Republic of Texas and talk to Kent.
What do you got for me, brother?
Hello, yes, I'm sorry I missed Mr. Chamberlain, because I wanted to talk about Section 230.
I'm not a lawyer, but I am a software engineer.
I was on the internet back when it was still called the ARPANET.
And I remember when Section 230 was first introduced, if I recall correctly, A phrase that you heard a lot was, oh, the Internet is just like the post office or the phone company.
It's not a publisher.
These companies are just passing information from one person to another, and therefore we don't need to have a lot of control over it.
And that's true, like, for the Internet service that brings it into my house or into your office.
But when companies like social media start to edit and censor and control what they're putting out, Then they're not just a service anymore.
They've become more like a newspaper or a magazine that gets submissions from lots of people, but they decide which ones to publish.
And so I think that there is room to modify Section 230 to make that distinction.
And as long as Twitter remains a free source where everybody can talk, then they won't be liable to get sued.
But the ones who are doing the editing and the censoring would be liable to get sued or punished for their malicious actions.
You know, Ken, I 100% agree with you.
I think that is exactly the way to approach this.
We want to reform Section 230 because we need those protections.
If you're going to allow the public to talk, the public is going to say some crazy stuff.
Let's just be clear.
It happens.
You know, I say some crazy stuff from time to time.
So I can understand why we want to have those protections in place for these companies so that they aren't at constant jeopardy of being sued for something someone said.
But I think then the challenge becomes how do you do that and maintain a viewpoint discrimination-free Moderation process.
And that's what we don't have.
What they do now is they use their content moderation process as a way to add viewpoint discrimination as a filter.
And I think that if it would be, if you're going to reform section 230, that's what you should be looking at.
You look at the stuff that should be removed, should be removed because it's illegal or inciting violence or doxing people's private information.
There's a whole number of things.
Well, we do have, you know, mail fraud is a crime, and I imagine there's something similar for the phone companies.
There is some legal ability to go after people if they use the service maliciously.
There you go.
And whether it's being banned from the service or whether it's...
You know, as some sort of actual legal consequences.
Great.
Whatever it is, that's one thing.
But they have abused that protection the tech companies have to put their viewpoint discrimination in play.
And that's what we need to change.
And it looks like now we've got that change at Twitter.
So, Kent, that was beautiful.
I think I think that is one direction we definitely need to go.
All right.
Let's jump to Flyover Country and talk to Brian in Ohio.
Hello there.
How are you?
I'm doing great.
What about you?
Okay, great.
This is what I'm really kind of confused about.
Or I'm just not understanding where we... Twitter is still a privately held company.
There's no legal or constitutional right for them to allow you or me or anyone else to... They're not bound by any constitutional right for us to say what we want to say is what I'm saying.
Correct.
Donald Trump, of course, opened his own platform for the good or for the bad.
But however, if we don't like Twitter, if we don't like these types of things, well, I don't know why there's people, why we can't open your own type of Twitter account.
And if you want to say what you want to say without being, if we want to say certain things without being harassed or being canceled, then we can, then that can be done.
And also I want to say is that I have been on a number of talk shows and certain things where I thought I was being canceled because I was conservative, but it doesn't bother me as much because If I don't like to go on Twitter, I can go on Facebook.
If Facebook doesn't like me, I've been on my local TV news.
I've been interviewed by a number of reporters who ask me my opinion.
I get your point here, and here's my answer to that.
First of all, when people say there are other platforms, all of the platforms prior to Elon buying Twitter were left-leaning.
So you could go on one, but if you were saying something that was verboten, On Twitter, it was also verboten.
On, you know, Facebook and YouTube and every place else.
So there really wasn't a differentiation.
There were just different names for different regimes of viewpoint discrimination.
So I don't think that was fair.
And when people did start a social media platform, Amazon and Apple and Google conspired to shut it down.
You know, so I don't think it's fair to say that is.
And I think the thing to look at when we do this is there is, of course, we want to support the right of a private company to operate its own business.
But there is a common carrier concept that says if you serve, and it's the same as a public accommodation concept, if you serve the public, You must serve all of the public if you are basically the only game in town.
So you can't allow then viewpoint discrimination or racial discrimination or sexual discrimination or anything else to keep people from having the ability to use what is essentially the only place to speak.
If you want to talk to politicians and media people and celebrities and whatnot, you do that on Twitter.
If you want to talk to all of your family and other things, you do that on Facebook.
So being excluded from those places because your viewpoint is not something that the left-wing buttheads who run those organizations agree with, that is something that we should not tolerate as a country.
That is not free speech.
They're not bound to do it, but we are allowed to make rules in the same way that the phone company can't refuse you service and the electric company can't refuse you service because they don't like your politics.
Well, at some point these have become commodities and they need to act like it or, as a last resort, we will use the government hammer to go ahead and beat them into submission.
And that's just the way it is.
We cannot have an information landscape that is controlled by only one side of the political spectrum.
All right, I'm enjoying this.
I think it's a vital topic.
One of the most important is our ability to communicate.
I'm glad to have this platform right here to communicate with all of you and scheme together.
This is Jim Hansen sitting in for Dr. G.
We'll be back with more America First Radio after the break.
Totally Nazis now.
Oh, my God.
They played Rammstein.
Whoa.
Oh.
I'll be completely honest.
I never knew about the Nazi origins of VW.
I did not know that at all until I heard the movie about it.
See, that's the best part.
The best cell phones just come right out of the blue because history is as hard as math for far too many people.
Who was that, Alyssa Milano who did that?
Yeah, it was.
She's the worst.
She's such a buckethead.
She was like a D-list actress and now she's like, I'm a feminist icon.
Yeah, well, we need them.
You know, I think they're vital to the full functioning of our government is you have to have idiots to make fun of to make your point.
Oh, yeah.
And so if you don't have that, hey, you know, we're operating without comedy and that makes things more difficult.
Did y'all do Angel Tree yet?
No, I will do Angel Tree.
This is a short segment.
Yeah, short segment.
So I will do Angel Tree in one call.
Yep.
All righty.
Do I have... I don't have anybody top of the hour either, so we can do more callers.
Yeah, that is correct.
All right.
420 is... 420.
Okay, good, because I got time to do Twitter files before.
This is fun.
I'm having fun today.
I always have fun.
Oh, of course you do.
This is a great thing.
So do the viewers.
Hey, is the rumble chat taking care of business?
We got topics?
Yeah, let's see.
We've got a few here now.
New Black Panthers in Georgia, apparently.
Will there be consequences for voter fraud?
I like this one.
Do we need a new party?
That's interesting.
That's a really good one.
That one goes in for sure.
What's going on with the J6 committee?
Are we in a constitutional crisis?
This one, admittedly, yeah.
What's up with the ceremony earlier today where they were giving medals to Capitol Police for J6?
Didn't they already do that a dozen times?
They did it again.
McConnell, McCarthy, they were all there.
It was pretty bad.
And then a little fun one here.
What's your knowledge of the World Cup?
I have significant knowledge of the World Cup.
More than I want.
I think what I was talking about before, I played.
Okay, those are good.
Alright, well Rumble Chatters, you've got six more minutes.
If you've got anything else, feel free.
But yeah, we've got enough fodder there.
There's a lot there, yeah.
Some fun stuff.
Well done.
I love the Rumble Chatter.
To me, this is a streaming TV show that we put out on the radio.
I know Salem doesn't want to hear that.
Woo!
And Jim just got cut off.
No, oops.
Oh no, you still got...
Oh no, you still got... you still got...
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Little alien ant farm there on the intro.
I like it.
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Okay.
Well, I want to grab one more call before the top of the hour.
So let's go to Bob in San Diego.
How's the weather, Bob?
Perfect, right?
Perfect.
As always.
Yep.
So, uh, I'm a retired lawyer and one of the things about this, this, this discussion is that nobody talks about the fact that these social media platforms lured us on with false pretenses.
They, um, they, They made it seem like it would be an open forum.
Now I have 1,400 friends on Facebook.
How am I going to move them all over to another platform?
And I think there's probably grounds for a class action lawsuit for unjust enrichment or some sort of fraud, but that's not for me to look into.
No, but let's do look into that because one of the things I've heard from the smart lawyerly types who I talked to about this, guys like Ron Coleman and Will Chamberlain and other people, Is the idea that maybe your social media account is your property because you're the one generating that content, even though it's hosted by those other people.
So if you get an ownership interest in that as a requirement of some sort, then you would have a right to, to some sort of tort, you know, against them if they take it away from you.
So I think that's a great thing to bring up and let's put it in the mix.
Hopefully we can get them to fix it there by themselves, but if they don't, we'll make them.
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I I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
Hey, glad to be back.
I hope nothing bad happened in the news during the break.
I always wonder about that.
We live in such crazy times.
I want to talk now, because we've got Miranda Devine coming on at next segment.
And if you're not sure, she's a New York Post journalist.
She wrote The Laptop from Hell.
She is one of the most well-informed and kind of the definitive voice on Hunter's laptop and that whole thing and the larger problem.
Which I want to delve into, which is the fact that there is a conspiracy and there has been ongoing collusion between the tech tyrants, the media, the deep state, and Democrat operatives to censor and disinform the American public.
And I think this is something that we've known about at some level because you can just see it happening.
If you're paying attention at all and you're not, you know, a zombie of the left, you can tell that our entire information space is slanted to the left.
But over the past five to 10 years, it has become so grotesquely out of shape that I don't think at this point, you know, there's a way for America to continue to function as a constitutional republic.
when the vast majority of our people do not get accurate information and cannot get accurate information.
For a long time I would have said the problem is people are just too busy.
You know, they're taking the kids to soccer, they're living their lives, they've got better things to do than track the news and the politics and all the stuff.
So they would watch the local news and get a version of it, but at least something vaguely resembling reality from your local news broadcast.
Well, those days are gone.
There is no outlet now that allows the average person to just, without thinking about it, click or watch or see or read anything that is going to give you an unbiased, accurate, you know, what would have in the old days been called journalistic view of events.
Everything's partisan.
Everything's political.
And at this point, everything's woke.
And that means the American public can't make accurate decisions about anything in their life because they don't know what's going on.
You know, I know I don't know what's going on, and I spend a considerable amount of time, my professional life is involved in information warfare.
So we track what everybody's doing.
We track what the left's doing.
We track what the right's doing.
And for a long time, before we started focusing on domestic issues, we tracked what the world was doing.
Worldstrat is my company.
And you don't know us because we do this behind the scenes.
But what we did is we would look at what enemies of the United States were doing and saying.
We would look at what allies of the United States were doing and saying, and we would attempt to influence them by stopping bad things and pushing good things.
Well, that's what's happening to us domestically because the U.S.
government, the media, the tech tyrants, and the deep state are doing that to us.
And now they've been caught.
So the Hunter Biden's laptop, hiding Hunter's laptop, which if you go to worldstrat.com, click on our portfolio, there's a white paper there that will explain it.
There's also a super cool video that walks you through who did what, but they worked together to both censor the information and then create a disinformation story that ironically said that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
Pretty bold to go ahead and do disinformation and call it Russian disinformation.
So all of that's there.
And I think it's important now that this is coming out, you know, in the Twitter files, as Elon showed, that the people at Twitter knew it was a lie.
They knew all of this was BS, but they did it anyway, as that scumbag weasel Yoel Roth admitted, because they didn't want a replay of 2016 where Hillary's emails took her out.
Her own emails, the facts in her emails, took her out.
It's not like it was hacked, although it was.
That didn't matter.
What mattered was the information in her emails was so heinous that the American people looked at it and said, she's a horrible person, we can't vote for her.
They didn't want that to happen again and have the public find out that Joe and Hunter and the rest of his family were completely corrupt, taking foreign money and selling our country out so that Hooker could buy crack and blow and hookers and everything else.
Did I say Hooker could say it?
So that Hunter could do it.
Bottom line, all of that now is in play.
We know they're doing it.
We've seen it.
But that's the tip of the iceberg.
This has been going on before Hunter's Laptop, and it's still going on today.
That cabal is still in operation.
And what happens, and we now have evidence of, which is coming out in lawsuits like the one the Missouri and Louisiana attorneys general have sued the Biden administration for censoring people about the Hunter Laptop story, about COVID, and about election integrity.
Because the government was telling the tech companies who to censor and what to shut down.
And that's a violation of the Constitution.
There's a Supreme Court ruling that says the government cannot outsource to private companies things that itself is forbidden to do.
But they've been doing it.
So they're caught.
And this is brilliant.
And this is great.
Because now, instead of just knowing that the playing field's tilted and everything is to the advantage of the left, we've got proof that they're doing it purposely, and that they're conspiring, and that they have basically created a way to invalidate the American people's ability to make informed decisions.
And that's intolerable.
And consequently, we now can act.
But I think the question is, first of all, how can we fully expose this?
Because it's got to be laid out there.
We have to know everything they were doing.
And that's coming.
There are hearings coming.
And there are, like I said, the lawsuits.
And they can't hide from it.
But they're trying.
Even now, as the Hunter laptop story came out, the reaction from all the usual suspects was, oh, that was just the Biden administration saying, take down the pictures of Hunter's junk.
You know, as if that was the only thing this was about.
It was not.
That was incidental.
It was about the conspiracy to misinform the American people.
So that is their reaction, again, to being caught censoring and doing disinformation, was to do more disinformation.
And we can't let them get away with it.
So I think it's going to be interesting.
We're doing everything we can.
My company is digging into this.
We're using some pretty powerful AI software to look at the connections between all of the names involved and find their connections and all of that.
So we're connecting tons of dots because there are dots to connect because there's an active conspiracy.
So this is literally, I think Jack Posobiec said it, Elon bought a crime scene.
So that was a crime scene.
The nice thing about it is, as he puts out what happened at Twitter, we know the same or worse things happened at Google, Facebook, YouTube, all of the rest of those people.
They did the exact same stuff.
So what we're doing now is now we're taking the information from Twitter and saying, okay, this government person talked to this person, they probably talked to this person, and now all those dots start to connect themselves.
All of that information's going to the committees in the House who will be going ahead and doing those kind of hearings and putting that out, and then making policy, like we talked with Will Chamberlain and with all of you, the callers, about what can we do to make this better.
We don't want government intervention.
We want them to change their evil ways.
And now that they've been caught, we may be able to shame them.
We may be able to pressure their boards.
And if not, then we will use, we will drop the hammer.
We will put a boot on their neck and force them to do it.
But at least now, We've got the opportunity to show the American people that this was not just conservatives whining because no one likes their content.
No, it's conservatives noticing that our content was hidden and leftist content was promoted.
And that's unfair.
Now, again, private companies can do that until they become a monopoly and until they abuse that power in collusion with the government.
So that's not allowed.
So we've got them.
I mean, we got them.
And they're not going to like it.
They're going to squeal and they're going to lie.
They're going to do more censorship and more disinformation.
And we're going to catch them at that, too.
So expect all this.
It's all going to come out.
It's going to be Watergate-ish.
Pick your political scandal.
There hasn't been a really good one.
None of the scandals with Trump were even real.
You got to go back to probably Watergate, but whatever.
It's going to be a political scandal and we're going to show it.
And I think the result We'll be not just Twitter becoming more of a platform with free speech, but the rest of the tech tyrants are going to have to go ahead and open up a little bit themselves and let us be heard and seen.
We've got Miranda Devine coming up, as I mentioned, New York Post.
journalist and and author of laptop from hell and we're gonna dig into some more of the specifics and and some more of the stuff that's coming out that proves and shows just exactly how deep this rot goes and we're gonna use that We're going to use that to rile up the American people, to rile up their elected representatives, and to scare the hell out of the boards of all these tech companies, because they need us.
We're half this country, and we're going to use our power.
This is Jim Hanson sitting in for Dr. G, who's in Israel.
Think about going on that trip next year.
We'll be back after the break.
It just feels so surreal to realize Seb's finally on the Israel trip now, because it Right.
But, you know, COVID, obviously, and then... Yeah, we've been promoting that for like two years, yeah.
Forever, and it's finally happening.
It's like, oh my god.
He's got pictures.
It's real.
Has he live-streamed yet?
He's got a live-stream.
I don't think he's... No, he has a live-stream.
He's posted a lot of pictures, though.
He needs to send back a video.
Just have him do a selfie video with iconic Israel in the background.
Maybe his knee on a dead Palestinian terrorist or something.
Nice!
That's my kind of picture.
I know he and Katie were doing an interview with her Trinity on a scenic hill overlooking the Temple Mound.
That's so cool.
So great, yeah.
Well good, I'm glad he's there.
350 people too!
Yeah.
Wow!
I mean, I know he's got a big audience.
You know what the best thing is, even though I was talking smack about Salem in the break?
They don't listen to the Rumble chat.
You know?
Why would they?
They're watching Salem News Channel.
They're watching their own ads.
Can you hear me?
Salem executives.
I love you guys.
And I am well aware that the radio audience is massive compared to the Rumble audience.
I know that.
I was joking.
I love the Rebel audience though.
Hey Jim.
Yeah man.
So back to cyber stuff.
Let's say the Russians and the Chinese knock off our power grid.
What's the contingency plan for something like that?
To be perfectly honest, we don't have one.
Depending on how they did it, there are ways to do it that we couldn't fix in less than 12 months to 18 months if they went after the physical infrastructure.
If they did it through a cyber attack, that's less of a problem because, you know, at some level you can reboot everything, right?
And you're not going to be down for a while.
The real danger would be if you took out the physical power plant Not power plant, but I mean parts of the infrastructure, and I won't name exactly which ones where, but it's not a large number that then you cause the cascading problems with the grid overall.
And again, the problem they have is, okay, first of all, if you do it well, and you're the bad guys, how do we know who it was?
Cyberforensics is difficult and takes a long time.
And so if you go ahead and set up a rogue computer in a hotel room, you know, in some European country, and then, boom, it goes from there, you know, they try to say we'll do it by recognizing the characteristics of the hacked, you know, the hacking code, the virus, whatever worm-type thing they use.
But not necessarily.
And then you can't prove who actually did that.
So who do you retaliate against?
So we've got to use human intelligence of some sort to figure out who to retaliate against.
And then, how do you retaliate?
Cyber warfare really is something that nobody wants any part of.
We'd rather have a tanks-in-Europe war again before we do a cyber war, because we're all screwed.
Tanks-in-Europe everybody understands.
Someone in the rumble chat says, um, Jimbo, Salem is on line three.
I keep waiting the hook.
Yeah, the hook.
Bugs Bunny style.
Yep.
Yeah.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, welcome back.
Look, we were talking a little bit before the break about the overall cabal that controls our information space and the fact that it is now being exposed for everyone to see, and I think that's a fantastic thing.
Let's talk a little bit about the specifics of what happened with the Twitter files.
So what Elon Musk did was he took the Communications between the executives there at Twitter when the Hunter Biden laptop story broke, and he showed them to the world.
And what happened was, it was October 2020, right before the election, October 14th, the New York Post story detailing Hunter's laptop and some of the information that showed corruption to the world, and instantly Twitter blocked that.
They shut down links, they suspended the New York Post's account, and they did all those things.
And the communications between the Twitter executives showed one thing perfectly clear.
It showed that they knew that what they were doing wasn't true.
So we got Miranda Devine joining us now, New York Post, author of The Laptop from Hell, which is the definitive tome on this.
But Miranda, the Twitter files, the initial thing, not groundbreaking, not anything most people didn't already know, but there's a lot more coming and there's some good things that have come out that you had a column about as far as what they were told, what Yoel Roth told the Federal Election Commission, and some other things.
Catch us up on the Since the Twitter Files.
Hi Jim, yes.
What we know that's come out in the last few days since Elon Musk allowed some information to trickle out about the censorship of the New York Post story on the Hunter Biden laptop, what we know now is that from the deposition of the FBI agent Elvis Chan that there was conversations about Hunter Biden in those weekly FBI meetings with social media companies.
He denies that those conversations were part of warnings that the FBI...
Oh, he doesn't deny it, because you can't recall if the FBI warned, yeah, these social media companies before the election to look out for these Hunter Biden hack and leak material.
But we do know that Joel Roth, who was the top guy at Twitter, executive for site integrity, he gave a sworn statement back in December of 2020 as part of a lawsuit against Twitter before the or not lawsuit, but a complaint to the FEC against Twitter.
He actually stated that during those weekly meetings with the FBI, the FBI told Twitter in his presence to expect likely in October, a dump of hacked material that would include material about Hunter Biden.
And they called it a hack and leak operation by state actors, meaning Russia.
So that was exactly the same lie that was told after the election.
In that letter, that infamous letter written by 51 former intelligence officials who said that the Hunter Biden laptop story had all the earmarks of a Russian information operation.
And of course, that letter, those lies that were being spread by people like Adam Schiff, the Democrat who is still chair of the House Intelligence Committee, and others they send across the media to tell the big lie That Hunter Biden laptop and our stories, therefore, were Russian disinformation, a smear from the Kremlin organized by Donald Trump.
And that worked.
Half the country just didn't believe it, didn't hear about it, because there was a complete silence by the sort of left-wing Democrat-leaning media like New York Times, Washington Post.
And, you know, polls show that if Biden voters had known the full extent of the corruption that was revealed in our stories, that they would have changed their vote, and that may have been enough to swing the election.
Now, here's the worst thing, OK?
It's bad enough that they went ahead and gave that warning, because if there actually was something like that going to happen, we'd want them to do that.
But we know that they knew that there was no state actor involved because Ratcliffe, who was DNI at the time, said that they already had the information.
They had already looked at the laptop and there was not one shred of evidence of any state actors or hacking involved.
The FBI had had the laptop for a year.
And so they went and sent these information, and they did to Zuckerberg too, because Zuckerberg said on Joe Rogan's show that the FBI gave him basically the same warning.
So they're lying, trying to tempt these social media companies into doing what they wanted anyhow, which was to censor it and do disinformation.
Exactly, exactly.
That is a really crucial point.
The FBI knew that what they were telling the social media companies was not true.
They'd had the laptop now since December 2019.
They were given it by the computer repair shop owner where Hunter had dropped it off and abandoned it.
His name is John Paul MacIsaac.
He had tried to contact them all through the fall of 2019, had great difficulty.
Finally, two agents came and picked up the laptop with the subpoena, gave him a sort of a sinister, strange warning.
He took it as a warning.
They said to him, one of them, as he left, we find that people who don't talk don't get into trouble.
Wow!
Yeah, and they also picked up a copy of the laptop, a hard drive copy of the laptop.
They may have thought that that was all there was, because we know from FBI whistleblowers that they then buried that laptop, did not allow any other, you know, good FBI people, if there are, to investigate it.
They made it off limits for any investigations.
And as John Paul MacIsaac says, He just assumed after several months that they'd just thrown in the Potomac.
And that's what prompted him in the summer of 2020 to try and contact Republican congressmen.
He had no luck there.
Finally, he managed to get an email through to Rudy Giuliani and told him chapter and verse about what he'd seen on the laptop, what he'd been concerned about.
He was very savvy, John Paul MacIsaac.
He went right to the heart of the problem.
which was the money that was coming into the Biden family from Ukraine and from China and through to Joe Biden that potentially had compromised one of the two candidates for president in the 2020 election.
And he knew also that Donald Trump was impeached over the Ukraine nonsense, and he knew it was nonsense because he had the laptop and he saw the document.
So he tried to get the FBI interested.
They weren't.
He didn't go to the media.
He was trying to get this into the right hand so that it could be dealt with on a national security level.
And Rudy Giuliani got that email with screenshots and a very forensic explanation of the national security problems that John Paul MacIsaac had seen on the laptop.
And guess what?
The FBI was spying on Rudy Giuliani at that time.
They had access to that email.
So they knew by then that even though they buried the laptop, that, uh-oh, John Paul MacIsaac had kept a copy, and he was now disseminating it to Donald Trump's personal lawyer.
They knew in August of 2020 that that story was going to come out before the election.
But they didn't care.
And then they also— But they didn't care.
Well, they did care.
They did care, and that's why they went to the social media companies to debunk it.
To deliberately tell them, be on the lookout for this story about Hunter Biden, and make sure you censor it.
And that's exactly what Facebook and Twitter did.
Well, Miranda, thank you for staying on this.
And people, follow everything she writes at the New York Post, because she gets it right.
Miranda Devine, author of Laptop from Hell.
We'll be back after the break with more America First.
...book she sold in the past week.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, the last week alone.
Yeah, I mean, just good.
The more, the better.
All right.
We've got a couple callers, right?
Yeah, we've got two.
And we're bottom of the hour, and we've got Kurt top of the hour.
Okay, yeah.
Yep.
Joe and Dave.
I'll go ahead.
Why don't I read the angel tree before I forget that?
Hey, I remembered by my onesies, like a big Jimmy.
All right.
Hey, I can vote in the poll on Twitter.
That is true.
The only person who can never vote in a Twitter poll is the Twitter user themselves.
Right.
That's something Elon needs to do.
He needs to fix.
He needs to add more character space for Twitter options.
Like, I had to really stretch it with putting constitutional crisis in there.
Because it's 25 max vote per answer.
I'm like, give me a break, Elon.
Well, that wasn't him.
Come on.
I know that wasn't him.
I'm saying he needs to add that to the list.
Blame that on Parag.
The customer support guy, yeah.
I can't wait till we start jamming up Vijaya Gadde and Yol Roth.
That Yol Roth is just a dung beetle.
Isn't he with the ADL or something?
He was at one point with the ADL and he's a freakish queer advocate.
I hadn't heard him talk and I watched a video and he's got that classic mincing tone.
He's got vocal fry.
He sounds like a 13 year old girl.
You know, which is just awful.
Yeah, I think I hate everything about him.
I hope he broke a law.
I really do.
I don't want, you know, I'm not a fan of using the power of the state against people I disagree with except him.
I'll make an exception.
The list of exceptions can and should be longer, I think.
It's okay.
Come on, you gotta have a list.
What's life without a list?
I have in my hands a list.
That's the fun thing about that AI software we have.
Oh yeah?
First thing I did was I sicked it on myself.
Oh boy.
And I was impressed.
You know, it found a lot of stuff, but I was impressed at how well I've covered my tracks.
It dug up your Mancers segment.
Oh dude, it's found everything that's publicly available, but it didn't find a lot of stuff I knew I'd done, you know, that I didn't get caught at.
It didn't find where the bodies are buried.
No, no.
So I was like, OK, I'm feeling OK.
If that didn't find that stuff out, I'm probably clean.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I know, because I've got a great back trail.
I'd have to rat myself out, though, because my main partner in crime for most of the bad things I did that were international in nature died.
Oh, so he's dead.
He can't testify.
I'm pretty sure he didn't leave anything behind because it was, you know.
What do you know about Hillary?
Exactly, and I know nothing about Hillary.
Elon had to publicly say, like, if I commit suicide, it's fake.
Isn't that awesome?
The End
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, let's open the phone lines back up.
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Okay, we got a lot brewing.
We've been having a little fun so far.
But let's take another call.
I want to talk to Mike in Detroit Rock City.
Oh yeah, I was wondering, you know, our high-tech industry or high-tech industry where we provided the technology for China to create the first high-tech police state in the history of the world, I mean, the social credit system and all the rest of it.
And when you look at the emergence of our high-tech industry and this neo-Marxist Democratic Party and this corporate kind of alliance, are they trying to create the same kind of administrative surveillance state and so on in our country.
I mean, are they trying to bypass the Constitution and put us in that kind of situation here?
Absolutely.
I think you have nailed it.
That's exactly what they're trying to do.
And there's a couple things to do.
First of all, I think it's 100% accurate that China stole technology and we gave it to them and we outsourced it to them.
You know, to enable them to build that actual, you need an authoritarian government, a totalitarian government to be able to do it.
They do.
Now, you got to have a green QR code on your phone for COVID to even be able to ride a bus.
In China.
So they've got it going on and they're doing it.
And our leftists and our woke mob are looking at that going, that's beautiful.
And there's other ways they want to do it as well.
They want to take, and now if you go to a cashless digital currency, there is a way in England, they're already implementing a way that people who receive aid from the government can have strings attached to that, that if you violate certain rules, they can shut down your money.
It's digital money.
They can put controls on it.
They can take it away.
So I think all of that, including the idea of social credit scoring, you know, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Hanson, you can't get on that plane because we read your Twitter feed and we don't think you're the kind of person we want to fly around.
Banks shut down people because they don't like the business they're in or the things they say.
Kanye West may be an idiot and a racist anti-semitic moron.
But should he lose his bank because his bank doesn't like what Kanye says?
No, he should not.
There are things like that that are all now tied together because of the ubiquity of technology, because we're reliant on that technology.
And the people who think they know better than we how to live our lives would love nothing more than to use those controls to Put Orwell's 1984 into full effect.
They are Big Brother, they are the Thought Police, and they want their Ministry of Truth deciding what we know, what we believe, how we can act, and punishing us if we offend their delicate sensibilities.
So yeah, I think that is exactly where we're going, so let's stop them.
How about that?
There's at least as many of us as there are of them.
We just got to get our ducks in a line, get organized, and continue the counterattack that's been underway since Trump became president.
Now it's time to take that to fruition and put some controls on these clowns.
So let's do it.
This is Jim Hanson.
We will be back after the break.
break we'll take some more calls and uh find out what you guys think about that and the rest of the police and thought police action that was that was paranoid but that was not black sabbath Who was that?
That was a cover of Paranoid by Black Sabbath, and I want to know who played it.
Alex, where you at?
The plate cart wall says Black Sabbath.
That wasn't Black Sabbath.
I don't, I am pretty sure unless it was a live version.
It didn't sound like a live version.
That was not the version off Paranoid by Black Sabbath.
Let's see if I can find the answer.
Tag that because I, I know that record way too well.
I know all the good music way too well.
I feel the same with some of my favorite songs.
I'm like, yeah, I can tell a cover from like the real thing, like in an instant.
I'm an insane audiophile.
I mean, I have, literally, I have one of the nicest music systems on the planet.
You told us.
The system of the gods is the thing, and it's amazing.
Once you've heard everything, you know, I mean, even if you just listen to it with headphones and stuff like that, you still can pick out all the nuances and stuff.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
But with that, once it's been blasted into my brain housing group, I'd be very shocked.
That was definitely not the version off Paranoid.
You'll never just hear it the same way again, basically.
Any movie, any music.
Exactly.
Yeah, we got Amanda Milius is going to have a little get together and we're going to watch Apocalypse Now.
Oh, on that system?
On that system, because it's Dolby Atmos.
I got four speaker ceilings.
The Ride of the Valkyries scene.
All of it.
Dude, it's just so good.
Look at that scene, especially on that system.
I mean, it was the first time, in the opening of that movie, that was the first implementation of Dolby Surround sound.
Ever in a movie theater.
Anywhere.
I mean, any public place.
And it was the... There's the part where the helicopter flies overhead and all.
You just hear it.
You hear it, like, fly over you.
Yeah.
And this.
And now with the Atmos.
Because I got really nice Atmos speakers in the ceiling.
So it's just... It's awesome.
I would so want to be part of that.
Dolby's the best.
I love Dolby.
Yeah.
They do amazing stuff.
Now there's, I mean, almost all movies come with Atmos, you know, when they get released now.
So I've got all the Avengers and all the Star Wars and all the cool special effects movies are just stunning.
And oh, The Hobbit was great.
They did a great one, like when Smaug flies over.
That was just awesome.
And just, yeah, it's fun.
I'll admit, I'll keep an eye out.
Speaking of movies, I'll keep an eye on how Maverick does at the Oscars this year.
It's probably gonna get some nominations.
We'll see, man.
I don't know.
Why would they want to do a pro-America movie?
Just encourage us.
I could see it winning some of the technical awards.
You know, sound design, visual effects.
I could see it pulling some of those.
We'll see.
There's buzz that Cruz could get nominated for Best Actor.
For playing himself.
He wouldn't even have to win at that point.
Just being nominated, I think, would send enough of a... I'd be fine with that.
It's an honor just to be nominated.
It was good.
Still the movie of the year.
Although I was reminded recently that Avatar 2 is coming out this year at the end of December.
So my wife's pretty pumped about that because that's her favorite movie.
And so what we're going to do is we're going to watch the... Because we did this with Top Gun 2.
We watched the original in Atmos at home.
Right, which is actually almost better, except if you go to an IMAX theater.
So that's what we did.
We watched it at home with some friends, and then we went the next night and watched it on the IMAX for Top Gun.
We're gonna do the same with Avatar.
Watch the first one and then go watch the new one.
That does sound pretty cool.
Thank you.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, glad to be here today while Seb's in Israel, and we've been having a lot of fun talking about how the woke mob and the tech tyrants and everybody else has been shutting down free speech.
So we've been taking calls because part of free speech is talking to everybody, and let's hear what your ideas are.
So I'm going to talk now to Joe in Hotlanta.
What you got, brother?
Hey Jim, and you're doing a great job, and you have a polite way of really Drilling home to, you know, making it obvious for all of us.
So thank you for being a part of the part of Penn, the Patriot Education Network.
Let's all remember that Penn is mightier than the sword in the end.
I like that.
Okay, so what you want?
What do you want to talk about?
Okay, so Kataji Jackson-Brown.
She's a moron.
Yes, she is.
Out of All from the bench, hearing arguments for the case before them, starts to attack It's a Wonderful Life, saying it's racist and all this kind of nonsense.
You know what?
This woman is married to a white guy.
Weird.
So what the heck is she talking about?
I mean, and this, Jim, and everybody listening, this is about item 15 through 32 of the communist agenda for America, which was entered in the congressional record in either 1962 or 1963.
There were 45 items.
They've achieved most of them.
But this is about just destroying everything cultural, everything beloved, everything foundational, everything America is built on, everybody who built it.
And that's what she's doing.
And she's doing it from the bench of the Supreme Court.
She is a disgrace.
She is a Marxist agitator and activist.
I think you're 100% right.
And absolutely, they have a war against the normal.
And the normal is what keeps this country running.
Cultural norms and mores are a vital way a society functions.
And as you said, the communists said it outright.
The woke mob says it basically as outright, and I said before, wokeness is just the newest flavor of socialism with a little bit of climate hysteria and race mongering and, you know, other things grafted onto it, the gender bending, all of that.
But all of those are still attacks on the norm.
And I think the idea that she has and will have for the rest of her life the right to go ahead and make those kind of racist diatribes as if she was being a judge interested in the truth or a justice serving the Constitution, it's a disgrace.
And you're absolutely right.
The only way we can fix that is we need to elect someone to replace more judges with judges like Trump did.
I mean, he saved the republic.
Imagine if Hillary Clinton had gotten to appoint the three justices that Donald Trump did.
We forever owe him a debt for that.
Okay, next I want to talk to John in Michigan.
Hi, Jim.
I had called in about a year ago to the Hugh Hewitt show and I kind of got in a pretty heated discussion with Hugh because I said that the media, social media, media in general and the news was the enemy of the people and he kind of took offense to that and I still feel that way because What they're doing is no different than propaganda in North Korea or China.
When they spoon-feed and suppress news, it's no different than what is happening in communist countries, and that's what I fear where we're going.
Oh, I don't think we're going there.
I think we are there.
And I think Hugh's a wonderful guy.
All right.
And I think he's his one flaw is he's nostalgic for an America that no longer exists.
And I think he was part of he grew up in a media industry where you could actually at some level be able to triangulate to the truth.
you know, from listening even just to one side.
Neither side was so extreme that they were no longer, you know, able to give you a full look at reality.
And that's no longer the case.
The leftist media does not include anything that does not completely jive with woke dogma.
And if you're outside of their secular religion, they will punish you as a heretic.
They will burn you at the virtual stake.
And I think Hugh, you know, I think he understands that at some level, but there's too many people who don't grasp the existential danger to our republic that that represents.
So, uh, I think you're right on that.
And hopefully Hugh will come around.
Um, let's, let's see what Dave in Arizona has got.
Hey, thanks for taking the call, Mr. Hanson.
Originally, I was going to warn about tying our trial balloons to the weak GOP, because I'm here from the belly of the beast, Maricopa County, and I doubt that the lawyers will effectively represent Carrie Lake in the core four.
But you've brought up so many good points, and it's stuff that I've shared with people in Salem for over a year.
The lamestream media, including Fox News, uses three methods of miscommunication.
Hypocrisy, lies, and projection.
But the most critical one they use, and effective, is intentional information suppression.
That's what we've got to be wary of.
They are the enemy of we the people.
I couldn't agree with you more.
And I think you made a great point there.
There's intentional information suppression comes in two flavors as well.
One is intentionally suppressing information like they hid Hunter's laptop, hiding Hunter's laptop.
Perfect example of that.
And there are many others.
But the other one is the stories they choose to cover.
are just as telling a way to suppress information.
Because what you talk about takes time away from what you don't talk about.
So you've got the figure and ground concept.
The things you put in front are focused on, the things you put in the back are never heard about.
And so they get to focus on their message, they get to push their agenda, and they ignore ours.
And I think that's the two sides of that.
And I think The other pieces of it were just as telling, because at this point, the masks have been ripped away.
You know, they're no longer able to claim with even a straw—although they do, they'll lie about it still—but they don't want to admit that they have been intentionally suppressing information, and we've caught them.
And that's what's gonna be fun about the rest of this year and next year is we're gonna hold their feet to the fire and we're gonna burn them at the virtual stake.
We're gonna flog them on the National Mall and basically show the country that they have been lied and cheated.
And we'll get back this country one digital bit, one piece of information, one more mouth with free speech at a time.
And we'll have a little bit more of that when we get back after the break.
This is Jim Hansen doing America First Radio.
Woo-hoo!
Last segment of the second hour.
Rock and roll.
Always flies by down there.
Yeah, you know, and it's fun.
I'm feeling good today.
Yeah.
It's rolling.
It's almost like there isn't even an election that we're about to lose today.
You know, I'm not going to mention it.
I'm with you on that one.
I don't even care.
Everything about that is so bad that I'm having a nice day and I'm not going to let it... And if somehow I wake up and something went right there, it could just be a little bonus.
Like when I come home and there's a package on my... I call them porch presents.
Right?
Come home and you see that little smiley face.
I do Walmart more.
I used to do Amazon.
But yeah, why pay Jeff Bezos?
I could pay the corrupt Walton family.
And they're only marginally better.
They do bad stuff too.
But everybody does.
It's all a matter of degrees.
Yeah, that's true.
For me, it's a matter of I gotta get a notification from my building, because of course I have an apartment, so I don't have a nice little porch where people can... Oh, dude.
Porch presence, man.
You'll get there.
That's the whole point of the American Dream.
You work, you accumulate wealth, you gain a house, you do good stuff.
You eventually get the system of the gods, and you can go home and listen to amazing sounds.
Bro.
The movies that I could watch on that system.
Like Terminator 2.
And all of them now have been upgraded to UHD and Dolby Atmos.
Almost any decent movie has.
So they all sound and look brilliant.
I'm digging it.
This kind of makes it funnier by the way.
I never even saw Avatar and I still haven't seen it to this day.
It's funny.
I like it.
There's a lot of people who like to rip on it because it's so sweet and all that, but it's a freaking great movie.
I mean, there's good guys and bad guys, and there's shoot-'em-ups, and okay, oh yeah, it's sweet, and the poor little Navi or whatever they call him.
There's so many things in that movie that I feel like he just ripped off from other properties.
Of course, when people say Avatar to me, I think of the TV show.
But of course, now we gotta talk about the James Cameron movie.
The Na'vi, like, Na'vi was the name of the fairy companion in the original Legend of Zelda games.
But like, now it's, oh, now it's the alien people in, you know, in that.
It's like, man, James Cameron, like, he, he's had some original inspiration.
Like, you know, he came up with Terminator from a dream he had.
Right.
But like, but, Avatar just feels like the most derivative thing of all time.
But hey, it made money.
It made lots of money.
And that's all that really matters.
Yeah.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, we've been getting some great calls and great questions and ideas, so I want to finish out this hour with at least one more call.
We're going to go to Joe from Illinois, or Illinois as I like to call it.
Joe, I'm from Green Bay.
Do you know what a fib is?
I don't, but I know what a cheese head is.
I have them in my own family.
The rest of you can look up Phib as it relates to Illinois because I can't say it on the air.
Oh, no, yeah.
Well, I can't say it on the radio.
There we go.
So what do you got?
So I'm a JFK Democrat that was born and raised one.
I voted for Donald Trump twice.
I think Trump is the closest thing to a JFK.
You know, and I'd like people to think twice about this now.
You know, we get all kinds of problems going on in this country, and I think Mr. Trump ran this country like a well-oiled machine.
Yeah.
Low energy prices.
The world runs on energy, people.
I'm watching the soccer games.
It's like, hello, look at their cities.
You bring up a good point, because I'll tell a quick story.
My grandfather was the chairman of the Nebraska Democrat Party.
When John Kennedy was running for office and when Kennedy and Jackie O campaigned in Nebraska, my grandfather drove them around the state in his car for three days and literally got a chance to shoot the breeze with, you know, John Kennedy, talk domestic policy, talk farm policy.
He taught him that you don't talk about, you know, hogs.
You talk about everything else.
It was funny.
So my dad, though, was chairman of the Outagamie County in Wisconsin Republican Party.
So in one generation they moved far enough left, the Democrats did, that they left my dad behind.
And he wrote an op-ed at one point for Fox News and did a segment with them talking about why he left the Democrat Party that his father had been such a stellar member.
I got a picture of my grandfather on the White House steps with JFK on the day of the inauguration.
So I take your point very strongly that there is a tieback.
There was a time when conservative Democrats and we, who are now America First Republicans, would probably have a very large amount of common ground.
And I think the difference is that the Democrat Party went left.
They went from Democrat to liberal to progressive to woke.
And they're one step, you know, in socialist already.
And I think we have stayed pretty much solid where we are, although we've been dragged.
Everyone has a little bit left, and now we're swinging back a little bit right.
But I think that's a worthwhile thing to consider, is the idea that within two generations from where I'm sitting right now, My own family changed Democrat to Republican.
And I think, let's see if we can get some of those other conservative Democrats on our team.
About to do some news, top of the hour, get you all caught up and informed.
And then we'll be back with, you knew he's coming, Colonel Kurt Schlichter for some Warlord talk.
Back after the break.
Thank you.
If we can get him back.
There we go!
There's my man!
My manest of main men.
How you doing, brother?
Oh, you can't see it.
You look up here.
You will see Second Civil War.
That's a book my friends wrote.
Dude, I got everything.
my friends oh man that is sweet i mean next time i'll bring in your boy but i never need to because you got everything back there man that is great i i really do love that hey dude i found a two farms that are only about an hour from here that sell american wagyu what yeah so i'm gonna buy a couple chunks of that So next time you come to town, I'm gonna serve you some American Wagyu dry-aged.
Oh, dear God.
Oh, it's stupid marbled.
Dude, it's like there's almost more fat than meat.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
No, man, I want like a total skin and shape pick.
I mean, today's my day off for the week.
I'm doing like an hour and a half exercise a day.
I drop seven pounds in a week.
No alcohol.
Dude, you need to make sure that you get a gig with the Ph.D.
protein people.
Right?
Because if you're losing weight, Seb lost all the weight.
He's getting paid for it at least.
Yeah, I get nothing.
You get nothing.
You get the thrill of being a slim trim, desert storm vintage, Kurt Schlichter.
Hey man, 20 seconds.
By the way, man, your wife was a little cutie.
Yeah, I know, wasn't she?
I was like, dang.
I know.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
I have no...
I know I should recognize that intro music because it's some fruity movie.
Lord of the Rings.
Okay, I knew you were going to do that to me.
But hey, welcome back.
And this segment, and the next one because he's going to stay, we have the greatest of West Coast warlords and a man who celebrated the 35th anniversary of his deployment to Desert Storm, Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
How you doing, man?
Does that make you the Frodo of the Gorka show?
I think he's Sauron.
that make you the Frodo of uh the Gorka show yeah is that I don't know we'd have to work that out I guess Seb gets to pick his characters I'm not sure there was I think he's Sauron he's got the eye he scares people but I just what what Lord of the Rings has a lot of tension in it between the Frodo Sam thing and I'm not judging it's not because it's a little bromance you There's nothing wrong with that.
We have a bromance.
We actually celebrated our bromance and then our wives have a little girl crush thing going on.
Yes, they did.
In fact, off air, you and I were talking about meat.
Exactly, and that set him off as well it should.
I want to remind people that Kurt is the author of the Kelly Turnbull series, and the latest book, Inferno, makes a great Christmas present.
Great cover.
I can tell you for certain that man meat is discussed in there, great steaks, and tons of people get shot in great ways, in compelling and informative ways.
So get that, because I think it's a great book everyone should read.
But here's what I want to talk about, brother.
I want to talk about fixing the GOP and turning it into a fighting machine, and I think we both have come out publicly in support of Harmeet Dhillon to be the next GOP chair.
Tell me why you think she's the one.
Well, look, there's two great arguments for Harmeet.
One is Harmeet's talent, experience, and skills as an election lawyer, as a media personality, as someone who I know as a fellow California lawyer, I actually refer cases to.
Uh, there are cases that will cross my transom.
I kind of handle conservative cases behind the scenes stuff, except for, you know, things like the Ben Shapiro case.
Uh, Harmeet does it publicly, and when there's a public case, I feed it to Harmeet Ron Coleman, who's also at her firm, because that's how much I respect her.
I think she is fantastic.
That's the argument for Harmeet.
The argument, uh, Uh, for Rona McDaniel is she's a five time loser.
Okay, I'm assuming that we're not going to pull it off in Georgia today.
If you're in Georgia, of course, go out there and vote.
But, you know, you know, if Rona's got a got her hands in it, you know, she's she's last for the last four.
I'm not sure what the U-turn would be in the last two weeks.
The fact is, this woman has an unbroken track record of failure, and I know she's a nice lady.
People who know her say she's a very nice lady.
I don't care if she's nice.
I don't want her for a neighbor.
I want to see results.
And the only results I see are Democrats doing a little happy dance!
Okay, and that's fair.
I mean, I don't understand.
But this is, we're talking about the GOPE where the only rule is don't rock the boat and don't stop the gravy train for our idiot cousins at the country club who are making all those $500 an hour consulting gigs sucking.
So I think at some level, we, the people who make up that party, need to say, we want a fighting team.
And I've heard people say, and I want your opinion on this, that Harmeet used to be a rhino, and she used to be this, and she's really, because she's been working with the RNC, she's somehow tainted.
Now, I know her enough to believe that's not true.
You know her better.
No, right?
No, absolutely not.
And let me bring up an important point.
Any consultant who gets $500 an hour is a lousy consultant.
Okay?
I won't pick up the phone for $500 an hour.
Because I actually get things done.
I actually get results.
And Harmeet gets results.
That's what I want.
And I'm unsentimental.
Harmeet is a friend.
But if she wasn't the right person, I'd say, Army, I'm sorry.
You're not the right person for this job.
Nothing personal.
Everybody's not right for every position.
You were in the military, just like I was.
Some guys need to be operations officers.
Some guys need to be first sergeants.
And some guys need to be handing out volleyballs down at MWR.
That's just how it is.
Rana, here's a silver Seiko, because gold watches are for closers.
You need to move on.
Yeah, you need to move on to a nice job at the think tank where you can't do any more damage.
And I suggest everybody read my town hall on Thursday, which is entitled, Is Senator Tom Tillis and the rest of the Republican establishment just stupid?
And it talks about this race as well as Tom Tillis' massive, massive idiocy about trying to push amnesty on the Republican Party.
Dumb or a traitor, I don't know which.
Well, now, all right, let's expand this a bit, because I think new leadership is vital.
A fighting mentality is vital.
But all of this comes down to one thing.
I think we need to find ourselves as the political right, something we all can agree on.
And that's everybody who is to the right of the never-Trumpers, who we don't need to talk to, and the bulwark staff who are busy not satisfying their wives, to go ahead and get that out of the way for you.
Absolutely.
I mean, for gosh sake, if Nikki Haley got the nomination, I would hold my nose and vote for her over a Democrat.
And I don't want to vote for Nikki Haley.
I will vote for whoever comes through whatever primary at whatever level who's not the Democrat on the ticket.
Absolutely.
I mean, for gosh sake, if Nikki Haley got the nomination, I would hold my nose and vote for her over a Democrat.
Yep.
And I don't want to vote for Nikki Haley.
Don't make me vote for Nikki Haley.
But that's where we're at.
And we've got to fight the battle that we're presented with on the battlefield where they dropped us.
We don't get to choose our own.
We don't get to change the facts.
These are the facts.
And the facts, you know, the facts don't change because we're sad.
Rona McDaniel is terrible and she needs to go.
A guy like Tom Tillis is terrible.
He needs to be primaried.
But in the meantime, no amnesty.
And you look at the House speaker fight.
I'm no fan of Kevin McCarthy.
He's not my first choice.
But there's nobody else.
And if we keep screwing around, a bunch of moderates are going to hook up with the Democrat, get a moderate speaker who's going to be a Democrat.
And don't think that can't happen.
It's happened in other legislatures.
And if you think it can't happen, you have a hell of a lot more faith in the brains of the Republican Party and I do.
Well, and the smart move at this point, and I think this is what's happening from what I've heard, is that the America First guys and gals are now ascendant, but not dominant.
And so, because they'll have to take a deal with McCarthy, they've got leverage.
So instead of going ahead and making a fight out of it, they're doing the back-channel thing, which they're in the non-cigar-filled rooms, but they're saying, give us the committee chairs, give us the high-ranking spots in places where we can have influence, and we'll vote for you, and you can continue to be the guy.
And then, our whole team advances.
Yes.
Yes, they've got to do a deal.
Now, you know, as you know, I'm a noted Los Angeles trial lawyer.
I spent all this morning on the phone making deals.
And I didn't get everything I wanted, but boy, I got pretty good deals.
I got a lot of what I wanted, and I got some happy clients, because that's how it works.
Guys, if you want to win and dictate terms, which I'm all for, you've got to win enough.
McCarthy didn't pull off enough.
He didn't pull off the red wave we wanted.
Also, thank you, Rona.
He got a very narrow majority, which means he's got to act like it.
So he needs to compromise.
Our Freedom Caucus guys, who you and I are much more comfortable with, here's a message.
Make a deal.
Make a deal.
Get it done.
Don't roll the dice, because your track record on success is mixed.
And okay, I'm fine with that.
You know, we want them to learn from their mistakes.
And we want them to hold the people we make deals with accountable for their mistakes.
Because the whole goal is to gain enough center of gravity to roll over the other side like a snowball coming down a hill.
Oh, when you talk like that, I want a cigarette and a cuddle.
Hey, you know, I think we've got some things coming up.
We got this in January.
End of January is when the RNC meeting is.
So again, I'm going to remind everybody to call your local state party, not your local party, your state Republican party, and let them know you want Harmeet, not Rona.
You want a fighting leader for our national team because they're the ones who Appoint the delegates who make the vote in January.
So tell them, in California, everywhere else, because at this point, this is inside game for us.
California actually matters in this.
It does.
And you know, this is a time when the base needs to engage.
I did a poll on my Twitter account, at Kurt Schlichter, go follow me.
5,992 people responded.
I asked who you wanted the RNC.
Number one was Rona McDaniel again.
99.6% out of 6,000.
99.4% of people voted for something else, Jim.
That's everybody.
99.4% of Americans couldn't agree that Nickelback is terrible.
Right.
Okay, well maintain that level of outrage because after the break we got a couple more things to dissect.
We're talking with Colonel Kurt Schlichter, author of Inferno.
I'm Jim Hanson.
More America First in a minute.
More America First in a minute.
I just like dogging him.
It's easy.
I hate him.
By the way, that bumper music sounded a lot like Joy Division.
For which... We've been having... Alex is testing us.
He's working me.
I think he played some oddball version of Paranoid by Black Sabbath to see if I'd notice.
But we've also, we've been getting some industrial, and then we had Alien Ant Farm playing the Michael Jackson song, Smooth Criminal, right?
That was pretty good.
That's always good.
That's just a great, that's a great cover.
Stop it.
You stop it.
Come on.
Kurt's old school.
The greatest cover ever is Hooster Dew's cover of Eight Miles High.
I would sit on the perm, look north at the flashes from the airstrikes, and listen to it.
It was amazing.
You know, you came, you must have hit that weird You know, indie punk part, that whole Minnesota-style scene where, yeah, I never... I don't know.
You know who I liked and I actually saw?
I saw Fear.
You remember them?
I saw Fear live with their gas masks on.
And they did their first three songs in their set with Gas Mask.
Oh, they were, they were so good.
Greatest song title ever.
New York's OK if you like saxophone.
Yeah, New York's alright if you like saxophones.
That's the greatest title ever.
I don't care about you, F you.
Great song.
You know, let's have a war.
Lee Ving, Durf Scratch, Philo Kramer, and I can't remember the other guy.
Yeah, I mean, great.
Durf Scratch.
Lee Ving was an actor.
He's been in some movies.
Lee Ving has been in some movies.
You know, I was watching Wednesday, which is produced by Drew Maddick, who has a role in that.
Good dude.
What a good dude.
Great guy.
And they had a cramp song.
woohoo muck wow at their uh at a party scene i was like the cramps this is the greatest show ever all right so my funniest thing when i was at first group right i was working at group headquarters because my team sergeant hated me at one point and the local 107.7 the edge had a fax request line That's how far back it was, late 90s, right?
So I faxed in a request for Gang of Four, who I dug.
I saw them in Madison, right?
And Gang of Four has a song called I Love a Man in a Uniform.
Right?
So I sent in a request and I sent it in on First Special Forces Group letterhead, you know, faxed header sheet.
And so they read it on the air.
They're like, Oh my God, we got a request for a Gang of Four, I Love a Man in a Uniform from Jim Hansen.
It's on Special Forces letterhead.
We better play this right away.
And I was like, Ooh, I got a thing now.
So I would do it every day.
And they would play whatever song I wanted.
Oh my God, that's a great abuse of power.
That's the greatest thing I've ever heard.
I know!
Because that's a great song, too.
I mean, that band, I saw them in Madison at a tiny club called Merlin's that holds, like, less than 200.
And they just, it was an awesome show.
I saw Bow Wow Wow there.
Yeah, just, who's the ones from Play the Garbage Can?
Anyhow.
45 seconds.
I think Bow Wow Wow played the garbage can.
She was hot.
Little Annabelle?
Oh, Annabella!
Yeah, she was a cutie.
Yeah, that was an Amazon right there.
Gang of four had these two Grace Jones looking black chicks singing back up.
They were smoking hot, too.
I saw Madison was a great town for new wave concerts.
San Diego is pretty good, too.
I've seen everything.
Fishbone, beat farmers.
Good stuff.
All right, we're at 15.
I think they're going to cut us.
We're amazing.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
All right, a little more Rammstein kicking us back in because industrial is the game.
I still need to hear ministry at some point before the end of the hour.
I want to do it with sympathy.
That's the one I want to hear, the synth pop.
We're back with Colonel Kurt Schlichter, author of Inferno, the latest book in the Kelly Turnbull series, full of bad guys getting shot, good guys dominating, great stakes, great stories.
And Kurt, since it's you and me, We need to talk about our plan for global domination, or at least North American domination.
And that requires a fighting wing for the GOP.
So we've already decided to replace Ronna McDaniel with Harmeet Dhillon.
But then what do we do?
Harmeet goes in day one.
What's the first thing you want her to do?
Well, the first thing I want her to do is clean house.
I want her to find the people who are just taking up oxygen.
and wasting it, a la Elon Musk.
And help them find something else to do.
You want a swim and trim and focused crew.
I go a lot younger.
I go more tech savvy.
They're different.
Look, you could look at it as a battle staff.
You could look at it as a little different, you know, operations, you know, some logistics, but you need communications.
Uh, that's a major, you need donor relations.
She's got a lot of silos that she's got to, uh, uh, fill.
And what she needs is a game plan.
What she needs is a really good operations officer.
Ah, what are you doing next year?
Well, that's, you know, I know, I know an army colonel who doesn't have a job right now named Lee Zeldin.
I think he'd do a tremendous job.
If we could get the two of them together and somehow work out the power sharing, that would be the best of both worlds.
Well, the thing is, you have to visualize the staff to support the synchronized operations.
God, now I'm talking like officers!
Do what you gotta do, because as the commander, she shouldn't be in there in the trenches.
She should be setting policy, relating to donors, relating to the base, and checking.
And I would like to see her roll up at You know, Georgia's GOP and say, hey, I'm coming in.
Let's all have coffee and let's talk.
And you tell me what you're seeing and what you need and what the ground truth is.
And I think one thing, the nice thing about her being a lawyer, I've had to adjust my worldview since we're buddies and you're a lawyer, but you need them because lawfare is the game.
And right now we got destroyed every election, 2020 and 2022, because we didn't know the rules and either get the rules changed that needed to be changed or play by them well, because we somehow didn't understand the game.
I know she knows the game.
So that's gonna be part of it, is getting a team of savage lawyers who aren't just busy, you know, putting dimples in their knot, who are actually making the other side cry.
Yeah, what you need is a game plan that takes into account identifying bad laws, changing those you can, challenging those you can't, and pursuing those challenges ahead of the election.
And going out there and, where necessary, getting injunctions.
So if suddenly none of the voting machines work, you can go, hey, I already got an injunction saying that you had to have the voting machines work.
Who's going to get held for contempt of court?
And put a little fear of God into these people.
I like that.
There is no accountability after.
It's all proactive.
And that's what happens is we end up failing to do what needs to be done, failing to plan and planning to fail.
We really are giving a staff briefing, aren't we now?
We sure are.
So let's jump out for one second.
I want for everybody who's totally old school, prior to PowerPoint there was Harvard Graphics.
Do you remember Harvard Graphics?
Yes!
And prior to Harvard Graphics was the overhead projector with a slide on it, right?
When I told you that time I got sent to staff because my team sergeant was mad at me and I had to work at group headquarters, I actually used to be the guy in the back saying next slide at the big conference table at group headquarters with Harvard graphics and overhead projectors.
I know that's important to me.
Someday I'll tell you about the time I had to brief the dumbest general officer I ever met, Ricardo Sanchez.
Oh, you're naming names.
OK, I will.
Let's have that conversation because I think that's a fun one.
I know some dumb ones, too.
Oh, gosh.
All right.
So we've got Harmeet's now kicking ass, taking names.
She's cleaned house like Elon Musk.
The next thing we got to do, and people want to skip over this, is we got to have better candidates and coherent messaging.
Exactly.
And a lot of them are nice people.
Look, Hershel Walker will be a great candidate if he pulls it off today, which I hope he does.
If you're in Georgia, go vote for him.
He's a good guy.
But if he doesn't pull it off, he's not a good candidate.
Okay?
A good candidate is defined as a candidate who wins.
We need to vote.
I don't want a candidate I like.
I want to vote in the Senate and in the House.
Yeah!
Look, this is about numbers.
Look, I don't know anything about baseball, but I really enjoyed the movie Moneyball.
Right.
Because it was an absolutely objective look at how do I get the most points to win the most games?
What do I have to do?
And it throws out all the received wisdom and just basically coldly makes choices based on what will benefit us right now.
And that's what we have to do in politics.
So we got to recruit Brad Pitt?
Jody Hill in California.
I think he'd do well here.
But no, I mean, look, we know what candidates win.
Mike DeWine, he's not as conservative as I am, but he was seen as competent.
Brian Kemp, also not as conservative as I am, seen as competent.
Glenn Youngkin's a winner.
You know, I'm drawn to Santas, of course.
These are guys who show competence and strength, and the voters responded.
Competence, normality.
That's what the voters are looking for this cycle.
In 2016, they were looking for novelty.
They were looking for a revolution.
Now they're looking to get back to normal.
We need to give the people what they're asking for.
And we did.
That was the start of the counterattack.
Because we were deep, deep in the eight years of Obama.
We were in the hinterlands.
We were up in the mountains planning.
You know, you and I were our warlords with the flag up in the mountains recruiting a team.
But with that counterattack, we gained some ground and then we lost it back, which is what happens in a guerrilla war.
But now we're at the point in the guerrilla war, we're near a breakout.
I think we should.
We should have dominated this one.
where I think the momentum is with us.
And if we do smart things, then we should dominate the next election cycle. - I think we should.
We should have dominated this one.
We made some mistakes, and we need to ruthlessly analyze what we did right and what we did wrong.
And we did a lot wrong.
Now, again, we didn't lose this election cycle.
We didn't meet the expectations that we set and that historical trends and other factors would indicate that we should have.
We didn't reach our potential.
That is a law.
But we are moving forward.
And if you look at the Senate, even despite, you know, quarter wits like Tom Tillis, the guy who never met a Democrat initiative he didn't think was a great idea.
There are a lot fewer of these halfwits in power now than there were.
Ten years ago, you know, there'd be 30 Republicans going, well, maybe Amnesty for Dreamers is a good idea because they're dreamers.
Now he's got to struggle to get 10.
Well, let's keep it to 10 and cut away at that number as we can.
Kurt Schlichter, author of Inferno, Kelly Turnbull's latest book.
Get that.
Give it away for Christmas because people will thank you for it.
Good to be with you, brother.
I want to open the phone lines again.
833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
We've got a half hour left.
I want to know what America thinks.
Back after the break with more America First.
We're going to kick the mics back on.
I can't hear.
What's that?
He's still on.
Yeah, it's okay.
I don't think Tom Tillis is going to be my friend.
I had to remind myself of what stupid thing he was doing, but then you dropped it.
He's not.
You can't do that.
It's just stupid.
What the hell?
I don't know.
Our team has so many people who... I don't know if it was you who said it, but somebody said the politics of their second or third wife.
Adopting the politics of their second or third wife.
That was you?
That was very insightful because at some level, maybe it's your daughter or your granddaughter or somebody, but there's a woman or a woman-man, you know, some sort of beta human, and not that women are beta, but some sort of beta male, telling you these soft things and you think that's the right way to go.
Well, I think your wife or my wife would frickin' stab us in the heart if we pulled that kind of nonsense.
Everybody thinks I'm the bad guy or the tough guy, and even after they meet Sam, she does such a good job.
She's got a great facade.
She is an assassin, man.
Oh, she's got it.
You know?
Oh, she's so nice, and she's so sweet.
I know better.
I know!
She would kill all of us.
Oh, Irina doesn't take any gun.
No, she scares me, which is the sign.
I like women who scare me a little.
It's a part of the game.
I want to challenge.
Yeah, you have to have that croissant of fear.
And it's not so much the hot crazy matrix.
I like the not crazy hot, but dangerous.
Hot dangerous is better than hot crazy.
Well, I told you how Irina once told me I don't own enough guns.
Dude, one of the first things my wife said is, I have a new gun.
Can we go on our first date?
Can we go to the range?
And I'm like, yeah, what kind?
She said, it's a Heckler or it's a SIG Sauer.
I'm like, ooh.
Nice.
So she's not just has a new gun and wants to go on a date to the range.
She bought a SIG?
I love this one.
There may or may not be a SIG within 10 feet of me right now.
Dude, at my house, there is a gun within range, no more than 10 feet, every room.
Well, you've been to my house several times.
You know where I'm sitting.
Yep, I know.
Well, that way you can at least... When do you get back here?
Back to back.
We'll be back in March at the latest.
Okay.
Her, uh, Sam's Hall of Fame induction ceremony is in March, so we'll be back for that.
And, uh, we'll see.
If not before.
I still want to get you out here.
I gotta get out there.
I have scheming plans.
Yeah.
Alright, brother.
Hopefully it'll be a lot less of me.
Dude, you're wasting away.
I love it.
It's a good thing.
Hey, I feel great!
And I'll help you maintain that caveman diet, man.
It's the key.
I love the caveman diet.
I'm going to have a giant pork chop and some salad tonight.
That's it!
Fresh veggies and salad and meat and you will be the apex predator you were always meant to be.
And I am going for a largely dry, because I'm going to have some wine on my birthday day before Christmas, largely dry.
Wow, it's good.
I was 30 pounds heavier when I drank.
There's a lot of empty calories in alcohol.
It is.
So why not?
If I'm going to do it, why not do the best and savor what I do do?
There you go.
There you go.
All right, man.
Well, hey, we're about to hit the break.
Thank you, as always, and I'll holler at you.
Rock and roll.
Adios.
Later.
With sympathy.
With sympathy.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo!
It's Jim Hansen.
All right.
Well, we've been having a lively show and because all the calls today have been great.
And I think there's a lot that we all need to collaborate on.
So it's not just the smarty pantses who get to punditize on TV and radio.
America has a very important role in all of this.
So I want to take a call now from Bill in Georgia.
Interesting.
Did you vote already, Bill?
Hello there.
In 1993, Newt Gingrich was my congressman.
I lived in South Atlanta in a place called Hatfield.
Nice.
And I said, we need to focus on issues, not political parties.
You focus on the issues and the votes will come.
And it was 10 items that I thought were important.
Well, surprise, surprise.
Uh, the next thing I know, they said, um, Contract with America, 1994.
And, uh, not one of my suggestions was used.
Some of the suggestions was... What?
Missed opportunity.
Uh, English as the official language.
Stop U.S.
Balkanization.
Um, get rid of the U.S.
Department of Education.
Stop voter fraud.
Anyway, they succeeded in 1994, and we got Congress for the first time in almost over 40 years.
In 1995, I again approached Mr. Gingrich and Bob Barr and RNC and said, let's do a contract with America.
You know what Gingrich told me personally?
He said, Mr. Bryan, There are a lot of negatives associated with the contract with America, and we're not going to do something like that anymore.
It's a shame.
Here's the thing, I want to jump in because it seems like you were prescient, you know, that many years ago, because abolish the Department of Education.
I think we get a lot of people behind that right now, you know, given the indoctrination of our kids and the craziness of all the things they're trying to teach them, the grooming, the rest of the stuff.
You know, and English as a national language, that's a maybe.
I think that's one thing.
The Balkanization, we are tribalizing right now.
We are sorting into our relative tribes.
So I think it's good.
Too bad they didn't take you up on some of that back then.
It might have stopped some of these problems.
All right, I want to jump now and let's talk to Mark in Cleveland.
Tyler, thank you for taking the call.
Hey, no problem.
I just want to make a comment.
It just feels like a real heavy No, it's just like, everybody is shocked about the elections.
And the ones who really know, you know, like, just the people that actually study these things, they realize that, you know, that actually there was a lot of cheating going on.
And of course, there's the whole thing with Carrie Lake.
So a lot of people are shell-shocked.
I mean, I just, it just feels like everybody's shell-shocked.
Nobody wants to talk about it.
And I don't know, I just want to get your take on it, but I just feel like, you know, we were, and there's a certain, and I even feel it myself.
No, I think you're hitting on something that is legitimate here, because after, especially after this election, I was at, Kurt Schlichter was just our guest, I was at his house, you know, the day of the election, and we were watching the results together, expecting a much different outcome.
And I think we were completely let down, completely deflated.
Shell-shocked is not a bad term for it because of the fact that we had expectations that our machine could not deliver on.
We can only do what we can do.
I run my mouth.
I write books.
I write op-eds.
I write white papers.
I try to move our team in the right direction, but I can only do so much.
I'm on the outside.
I am not part of the political machine.
And our political machine Failed to do its job, not just in this election, in 2020, in 2018 as well.
They just did not achieve what we needed of 2022.
You know, they had responsibilities that we trust them to do, and they let us down.
And that's why we've been talking.
That's why Harmeet Dhillon needs to be the next chair of the RNC and put a fighting spirit and a fighting team in place that will go ahead and do those things.
They won't worry about hurting people's feelings.
Oh, they won't like it if we do that.
Oh, we gotta pay the same consultants who sucked so many cycles in a row.
All that stuff has to go out the window.
Because like Kurt said, and like I will always say, there's only one thing that counts in the end.
Did you win or did you lose?
Because this is a fight for the Republic.
And if they win, We lose and we get pushed out of the public square.
And I'm not going to go willingly.
I would much rather do this inside the constitutional process.
So let's hire a winning team and let's go ahead and win.
This is Jim Hanson.
We're going to do some more America First Radio after the break.
My favorite song by Skinny Puppy.
Dig it.
Dig it, dig it.
I can't find that one you mentioned, With Sympathy.
Oh, you know, it's pretty obscure.
It's 80s synth pop, man.
There's an album called With Sympathy.
Oh, you know what?
The song's Work For Love.
Yeah, that's right.
The album's With Sympathy.
Gotta work, gotta work, work, work.
It's got a great, one of those, you know, 80s synth bass intros.
It's really a good song.
And it's funny, Al Jorgensen's unrepentant about the fact, yeah, that's what we used to do.
Now I have a horrible beard and I look like Rob Zombie's evil cousin.
He looks terrible.
Oh yeah, it was fun.
So in 2008 I was on what they call the National Heroes Tour with a bunch of guys who had won the big awards and we took a bus from San Diego all the way across the country speaking at all the VFWs and stuff along the way just riling people up in support of the surge for the Iraq War.
And we actually had Rob Zombie's tour bus.
So they had taken, you know, he was not touring, he was doing whatever, and they put this big wrap over it and put attack helicopters and all this stuff, and it was Vets for Freedom National Heroes Tour, right?
It was really badass, you know, because the whole bus had these giant Apaches on it looking at you, you know, with guns everywhere.
And the best part was we had Rob Zombie's bus driver.
And so he knew all the craziest places to go in every town we went to.
And to say that we partied like rock stars is an understatement.
Because we had, in the back of that bus, we had, you know, there was like a bedroom slash lounge.
And we just would, whatever town we rolled into, we'd park next to a bar, party at the bar, and then there would be an after-bar party in the back of the bus.
And it was awesome!
Sounds great.
Oh, and we had the right people for it.
I mean, I'm not going to name their names.
They know who they are.
But you know, you've heard of them.
You covered the tracks on that one.
I will name one name.
Pete Hegseth was in charge of the whole thing.
Oh my goodness.
Oh yeah, we had a lot of fun with Pete because he was not quite as wild as the rest of us.
Pete was a little more buttoned down and all of that.
He didn't have his tattoos yet or anything.
He was the designated driver of the group, basically.
He pretty much tried to stop us from doing things, and he eventually got banned from the back of the bus on his own tour.
Oh no!
Yeah, we said, no, you can't come back anymore because you're a buzzkill.
That was hilarious.
Oh, by the way, the winner of the poll, how could I mention this?
Are we in a constitutional crisis?
I knew it was going to be that.
Narrowly, actually, by 1.3%, barely beat the question of do we need a new party.
Okay, well, how about I'll do both of them?
That sounds about right, yeah.
Dead last with just over 7% is World Cup.
Because soccer sucks.
Soccer does suck.
I was telling Geoff, the one thing I unironically like about soccer is whenever those players take a spill, like they miss a kick or something, and they splay out on the ground and roll around like they broke a bone in their body.
And grab their hamstring.
Oh, he kicked me in the balls!
Shut up, you sissy.
They don't have any balls.
Yeah, they are girly men.
We need to do Angel Tree one more time.
Okay, I will do Angel Tree.
How long is this segment?
This is an eight minute segment.
All right, good.
I'll do Angel Tree to open and then I will do a double.
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All right, now, we do a thing when I guest host where the first hour, the rumble chat, rascals, rapscallions, come up with crazy ideas for potential topics for a rant in the third hour.
Second hour it goes on Twitter, the tweets, the tweets vote, and we come up with an answer.
This time the answer was, are we in a constitutional crisis?
Although a close second was, do we need a second party or a new party?
So I'm going to kind of riff on both and that way we get almost everybody gets happy except the people who thought there should be World Cup soccer rant and we're not going to do that because soccer sucks.
So are we in a constitutional crisis?
I think we have been in a constitutional crisis for a decade or so.
And the reason is similar to what we've been talking about this whole show in order for a constitutional republic to function properly and elections to be held and people to make informed decisions that are reflected by those elections.
We have to have a shared information space where something vaguely resembling reality is given to the American people to digest so they can make those informed decisions.
We don't have that.
And that leads to a lot of problems.
It leads to the fact that people vote now based on soundbites that are largely decided by the political and propaganda machine of the left.
Now, at some level, that becomes a constitutional crisis when it leads to people not believing that the things they see before their eyes, those of us who live in reality-based America, know what the problems are, know what's going on.
But there are so many people who are fooled that when we get to holding elections, we have a problem with people who vote based on ignorance and being fooled by the lies and disinformation they're told.
You add to that the fact that the other side has perfected the art of cheating and cheating the system in our elections, and we have a situation where confidence in our ability to choose our leadership is at one of the lowest points it's been in my adult life, and I think we need to deal with that.
I don't think it is something that is going to stop us.
I don't think we need a Second Civil War, which is a—winning the Second Civil War was a book I wrote.
I don't think we need a revolution.
I don't think we need a constitutional convention or any of these things.
But I think there is a crisis of confidence that the Constitution can be upheld if we can't hold elections that all of us can feel comfortable, represent the will of the people, and then have government that governs according to the will of that same we, the people.
So I think that is a huge danger.
Now, I'm not going to say which elections may or may not have been unfairly influenced or fraudulently, you know, or cheated, because the left does cheat.
And I think that's a problem.
But what we need to do now is focus on what are the rules that we want for those elections and make sure that our team in charge of doing that, as we've been discussing, the RNC, does their job to make sure that those rules are fair and that we're prepared to fight the battle according to the rules in place.
Those things need to be done.
And if that happens, I think we can overcome a lot of the gaming and cheating of the system, as I said, which was largely ballot harvesting and gaming the early vote system.
They get all those votes and ballots in play and they're largely uncontrolled.
Let's get a handle on that.
Let's get our team using every legal means to get ballots in play and votes harvested.
And let's get those votes counted.
And I think I share everyone's fear that there are shenanigans going on because there are shenanigans going on.
But the more we do to have fighters on our team stopping that before it happens, as Kurt Schlichter said in our segment with him, you can't do anything about it afterwards but scream and kick your feet.
It's over at that point.
You have to do it before the election.
We've got two years and we better fix it.
That means we need a fighting wing of the GOP at the RNC.
So let's get our people in there.
So I'm going to remind you again.
You have a state Republican Party in your state.
Contact them.
Tell them the status quo is no longer acceptable and they will not see a dime and we will all move our support to some other organization.
We'll all start a super PAC and call it the Screw the RNC.
Unless they put in people who are willing to do what we need.
So the constitutional crisis is in play.
And I, all right, I forgot to mention, I don't think another party will help.
So we stay with the Republican Party because it's, it's just won't work.
We'll split our vote.
So fix the GOP, fix the RNC, stick with it because that's all we can do.
I hear it!
I hear my request as bumper music.
The Band Ministry.
And we'll talk about that after the break, too.
This is Jim Hanson.
We're doing America First Radio.
The love.
It's like R&B, Motown, done by an 80s synth pop band, and it's ministry.
That is just, to me, that is one of the most hilarious things.
And I knew that.
I had that record before Ministry went industrial.
Because I'm old.
Alex should basically be a professional DJ at this point.
I'm working him, but he's pulling it off.
He threw in Skinny Puppy.
That was good.
That was a good one.
I'm going to have to download this one.
This is good.
Work for Love.
Work for Love is a great song.
It really is.
I dance to that.
Wearing parachute pants.
I swear to God, I'm not even making that up.
I wish I was making that up.
We're already on the final segment here, Jim.
This has been a great show.
I'm really digging it.
It's just been rolling, you know?
With a very clear overall theme, which I think helps the show flow better.
You know, I was feeling that too.
We didn't jump around.
It's all about winning.
Oh yeah.
And again, because this is the one and only realistic shot we have at getting rid of any of the GOP leaders is the RNC one.
Yep.
We were never going to bump off McConnell.
How old is he?
He's like a thousand, right?
He's almost like 80, I think.
I think he's up there.
What happens?
Is there some kind of cheesy drug they give senators and these people that makes them live to like 90?
Well, according to QAnon, it's baby blood.
You know what it is?
Yeah, he turns 81 in February.
It's like the Skeksis from Dark Crystal.
You know, have you seen Dark Crystal?
I have not.
Old, old.
But it's Jim Henson, which is me, and so I know this thing.
It was a Jim Henson Muppets movie, and the Skeksis were these vulture-like creatures that were the overlords, and they were the, they were literally, they were the Deep State and the Dem operatives, and they preyed on the other races and sucked the life out of them to extend their own lives.
And that's what it is.
They've got one of those Skeksi things in the basement of The Capitol.
Well, shoot.
Remember when those photos came out of McConnell's hands being all, like, purple and blotchy?
And people were like, what is going on here, man?
He's old.
Go home.
Go home.
Garden, dude.
You're supposed to be gardening at that age.
Yeah, even Harry Reid knew when to throw in the towel.
It's like, when I lost my eye falling down the treadmill, like, yeah, it's time to, it's time to... Treadmill my ass.
Treadmill.
Oh, you think it was like a hit drop?
Like a hit or something?
I don't know what it was.
It was something.
It was his brother.
Oh, was that it?
Yeah, beatin' his head.
There was reports his brother's a recovering alcoholic and he went... ...to meet...
Welcome back to America First.
with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, welcome back.
And I think we have had a very productive show.
I'm pretty pleased with this.
It's fun to jump around on topics sometimes, but I think we've got an important thing going on.
We have to figure out how to both keep the American public informed and win elections.
And those two are directly tied together.
Because part of the reason so many people vote Democrat is because they don't know any better.
You know, they've been indoctrinated.
Their team started early.
They started their fundamental transformation back in the 60s and 70s.
They've been at it since then.
They knew what they were doing.
They had a plan.
They're commies.
Of course they had a plan.
And they've been implementing it and expanding on it ever since.
We were busy living the good life, enjoying, you know, after World War II, the whole prosperity of the 50s and 60s.
And then, you know, you went through all the rest of that time.
We did our thing.
They had a plan.
Well, now our plan needs to be as good as theirs.
And our plan can be simply a return to the fundamental principles that make this country great, that it was founded upon of individual liberty and You know, a little bit of security from the government when we cede them control and prosperity because we're not allowing, you know, people to be destroyed by corporations that have gotten too big.
See how I flipped that one on you?
Normally, we would be the ones backing big business.
The problem is we lost big business to the woke left.
So we got to jerk a knot in their tail.
We got to start with the tech tyrants.
And make sure that they know that your giant corporation's stock price is dependent on the half of us you've been abusing not using our power to both cause you market issues and regulatory issues by our government officials.
All of those things need to be put into play by our side with the same vigor and the same mentality that the left's had against us.
They've been trying to destroy us.
They consider us evil.
Now, I don't care whether you consider the left evil or whether you want to hate them or how you want to do it, but if you don't understand that we are in a war for the heart and soul of this country, that we're still losing I can't help you.
All right?
I think if you're listening right now, you do.
So this is more a reminder that we need you to get in the game and get more people in the game.
Call your local reps.
Tell them we want Harmeet, not Rona.
Call your friends.
Tell everybody that this is something that the time is now and all of us have to get in the fight and do smart things.
So understand that We'll work here in DC.
I'll work on the people.
We'll get the things rolling here.
You at home have just as big a role.
Contact your local officials, state officials, your friends, your family, and tell them we want a free and open information space, and we want elections that we can trust, because if those two things happen, We will come out on top.