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Dec. 1, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Jim Hanson LIVE: Elon makes Apple blink.

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	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Yeah.
	Hey folks, I am delighted to be sitting in Seb's chair today because I gotta tell you, if we were watching a dystopian movie, I don't think anybody even in Hollywood would have the stones to make such a deranged set of cultural references as we have unfolding in real time in front of us right now.
	I'm not going to open with Kanye in a gimp mask, although I know you are dying to talk about Kanye in a gimp mask on InfoWars with Alex Jones talking about Hitler.
	Now we got better things going on.
	We'll get to him.
	We'll get to him because he's crazy and crazy sells these days and that's what we're going to talk about is how craziness has taken over America because there is no normal anymore.
	But I want to talk about somebody who is doing positive disruption right now.
	I want to talk about my man Elon Musk.
	All right, and I'm not a fanboy in the pathetic, oh, anything Elon does is brilliant, and I thoughtfully will do whatever it is.
	Because you're not putting a chip in my head, brother, OK?
	That ain't happening.
	But the rest of the stuff he's been doing over the past couple of months has been a master class on disruptive change.
	There's a thing in the military, fighter pilots, called the OODA loop.
	Observe, Orient, Decide, Act.
	O-O-D-A.
	And what it means is if you're doing the Top Gun thing and you're flying behind the guy, and you can observe, orient your plane, decide what to do and act faster than the other guy, you can kill him.
	And Elon has been slaying people!
	He's been Snoopy killing the Red Dragon, or the Red Baron.
	Bottom line, everything he's done that people have immediately gone, oh my God, Elon's going to destroy Twitter.
	He bought it to destroy it because he's just a crazy billionaire.
	He's going to fire everyone and there'll be no one left at Twitter to work.
	Well, guess what?
	Every time they say he's going to destroy Twitter and he's going to break it, what happens?
	About a week later, everybody's going, wow, that went kind of well.
	Huh?
	Twitter.
	How many people did they need to go ahead and operate the bird app?
	Apparently not 7,500 woke losers like they had.
	It seems like they maybe needed a couple thousand.
	So the 5,000 people that Elon chased out of that building, what were they doing?
	I think we all know what they were doing.
	They were shutting us down.
	And guess what?
	Good riddance to woke rubbish.
	They're gone.
	The bird app still works.
	They're making it better.
	Right?
	Every day, he's coming out with new things that are going to happen.
	And every day, the usual suspects are like, oh my god!
	They took the ban off saying crazy things about COVID.
	Yeah, you know why?
	Because the government propaganda on COVID was the actual disinformation and all the people that the woke tools banned for telling the truth have now been proven right.
	So of course that ban is coming off on COVID misinformation because it's not coming from the Twitter users.
	People have a right to question authority, to question What you guys in the deep state and the woke world call the facts, the science.
	Well, guess what?
	None of that is definitive.
	None of that gets to stand with us just, oh, we're meek, mild little sheep.
	We'll go and accept it.
	Of course, Dr. Fauci, we'll wear our masks and we'll take your unproven vaccine.
	Don't worry about it.
	No, that's not the way this country works.
	We were founded on individual liberty.
	Freedom of speech.
	All of those things.
	And guess what?
	They're making a comeback.
	We're making a comeback.
	And that's the nice thing.
	Elon is giving us the first place online in the past 10 years where our ideas are going to be allowed to compete on a level playing field.
	And God bless him for that because that's why we're getting killed.
	The kids are getting indoctrinated in schools.
	All the major media outlets tell the same lies in unison just as they come down from the ministry of truth.
	They spew their garbage and most people don't have the time to look through all that and find the truth.
	So there have to be places where ideas can fairly be tested.
	And people can say, okay, here, we got two competing ideas.
	One is, we've got a pandemic.
	So we'll blindly follow the government idea, ram a quick vaccine through without testing it on much of anything, and then force everyone to get jabbed.
	We've got the other side that says, I heard of this thing called herd immunity, which has been the way, in combination mostly with vaccines, that almost every major illness on earth has been conquered.
	So some people don't take the vaccine, some people do, and God weeds out the weak, they die, and the rest of us make people who can survive whatever the pandemic was.
	It's been going on since time immemorial.
	But oh no no no, we can't do that now.
	Natural immunity all of a sudden went right out the window.
	Well all of those things, questioning how elections are run and why horrible things seem to be happening in our elections these days, that's legal.
	It's always been legal.
	We're just going to not punish people for it.
	And basically calling people out for saying that all white people are racist.
	You can do that.
	Saying that men can't get pregnant.
	You can do that because they can't.
	All of those things need to be in play.
	And now we've at least got one place where they're going to be.
	Now, the fight's not over.
	All right.
	They're going to take shots at him and they're going to try and beat us at this every step of the way.
	They're demonizing the idea of advertising on Twitter as if somehow, you know, that, oh, you can't advertise because somebody might say something mean to a transsexual.
	Well guess what?
	The people who do things like that and the people who see that still buy products.
	We are at least Half of the customer base for every major corporation in this country.
	And we need to remind them of that.
	We need to tell them that, hey, if you want to go ahead and play those games like Disney did and like Governor DeSantis shut them down, we will make you pay.
	So it's time.
	Rise up.
	All right, we got a little momentum.
	Midterms weren't what we wanted.
	I get it.
	I was pretty chafed about that.
	And we're going to kick the GOP, the RNC, all the losers who failed to win in the butts for that.
	We're going to make it better.
	But we got to take the advantage we have right now, which is finally getting a chance to speak freely And take advantage of it.
	So it's not just Twitter.
	We have to do it everywhere.
	The idea that you're going to be cowed by the woke mob and cave to them and pander and worry about what people will say about you or think needs to end.
	All right?
	They cannot shut all of us down.
	And it's James Lindsay said it in his woke, excuse me, his manifesto for the based.
	He said the more of us who stand up and go ahead and, you know, don't cave to the mob, The less risk there is for everybody.
	If it's just one dude, then you're going to get shot down.
	You're going to get culled.
	If it's all of us, they can't shut us down.
	Well, right now, Elon is leading the way.
	And kudos!
	So I want to hear what you guys think about this.
	So I'm going to throw up the phone number.
	It's 833-33-GORKA.
	833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	I want to talk to you.
	I want to talk and I want to talk to you about what you're going to talk about because this is a this is the game.
	It's it's an information war and we've been losing it for decades.
	They've got control of too many of the organs of indoctrination, you know, and in both the elementary and higher education.
	They own the media minus a few places like this, you know, Fox News still, you know, there's places where you get a different version, but not enough.
	It's up to us.
	The no longer gonna be silent majority to go ahead and bring this to the streets.
	So get rowdy, get riled up, talk smack because you're allowed to.
	That's the game.
	Get based as my book will tell you to do.
	It's a thing.
	It means you will not, do not tread on me or I will kick back at you.
	That's the attitude we got to take into this.
	And I'm telling you, I am happy as a clam that Elon is leading the way and the rest of us can go ahead and get in the game and at least have a chance.
	Not a chance.
	We're going to defeat the woke mob.
	That's the game we got.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	Like I said, 833-33-GORKA.
	Give us a call.
	We'll talk next segment.
	I want to hear what you're saying because America comes first.
	I didn't have your book cover available right away.
	Ah, don't worry about it.
	We'll get to it.
	Rumble Chat!
	Rumblers!
	Alright, Rumble Chat, we need some craziness.
	A thousand of you watching, welcome, one and all.
	I think we gotta have Kanye and What's Crazy Pants doing about that as one of the topics.
	By the way, I just went on the livestream that's still going.
	It's been like three hours.
	Oh, he goes for like four hours.
	No, with Kanye.
	They're still there, though.
	I'm not surprised.
	I mean... What?
	I remember thinking, like, that's gotta be a clash of two people who have to be talking at all times.
	Like, how is that gonna work out?
	But apparently... I mean, I guess if that Nazis were thugs thing is any indication, Jones is completely kowtowing to everything Kanye's doing.
	He let Kanye just basically bitch-slap him on his own show.
	Hey, you know, at this point Alex Jones needs to keep the ratings up because he's got bills to pay.
	Bills you can't pay.
	I don't even know how that works out.
	He's not going to be able to pay that, no.
	Isn't he going to try to appeal that to like pay less or something?
	Well, they can't.
	I mean, it's absurd.
	You know?
	Yeah.
	But when even Alex Jones has to be like, uh, the Nazis were kind of bad, let's be honest here.
	And he's just like, no, stop dissing the Nazis, bro.
	Stop dissing the Nazis.
	Like, bro.
	I think we can all ought to be able to agree that the Nazis were bad.
	And if you don't agree with that, then you're a bad person.
	That seems like baseline, but we're not.
	In Crazy Town, there are no rules.
	And that's just it.
	I think in a true free speech environment, I'm not 100% libertarian because I don't believe in anarchy, and I don't trust the rest of the world.
	I'm fine.
	100% libertarian for me, it's the rest of you people I worry about.
	Exactly, yeah.
	But you gotta let people talk about craziness, and then you can point at him and say, okay, that over there, that's a crazy dude.
	Yes.
	Alright, stay away from him.
	You know, don't get too close, he might bite your hand, you know?
	Do y'all know why that Idaho story's getting so much publicity?
	Which story?
	The four students in the...
	The cops just walked some of it back.
	Like, they were saying they knew it was targeted and now they don't know what it was.
	But why is there so much publicity?
	Because they're white people.
	I mean, Fox always finds these- It was two cute blonde girls hugging.
	In all the pictures.
	That goes a long way.
	Fox every now and then just finds this random missing person story to latch onto and then they talk about it endlessly for like a week for no real reason.
	I mean, the Gabby Petito thing, like, just all this stuff.
	Ugh.
	God, I love that stuff.
	I miss, like, doesn't it feel like we never have, like, show trials anymore?
	Like, I remember there was a time we had, like, so many crazy show trials, like K.C.
	Anthony and Zimmerman, and now we don't have those anymore.
	Where's O.J., man?
	O.J.
	was the greatest of them all.
	You know why we didn't?
	Because Trump replaced that.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's a good point.
	Can you see this screen, or do you want me to send you, like, a screenshot?
	Um, I can see part of it.
	The camera's actually in the way.
	The slidey camera.
	Oh, the slidey camera.
	You want to, yeah.
	Guy can move that.
	45 seconds.
	But I see Alex from Brooklyn.
	Okay, now you have to go to one end or the other.
	Yeah, he's working on that now.
	It usually goes faster than that.
	I think we're being hacked.
	You're going to tee up Angel Tree here, right?
	Yes.
	Angel Tree Audio, yes.
	We'll have the B-roll ready for that guy.
	How long is this segment?
	This is a nine minute segment.
	Okay, cool.
	Then I've got time for this.
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	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jeff.
	special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
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	Okay, I asked for calls and I love talking to the people.
	We got Alex, looks like from Brooklyn.
	What you got, brother?
	Yeah, hey Jim, thanks for taking the call.
	How you doing?
	So good to have you on.
	Yeah, life is a Shangri-La.
	Okay, I just, I wanted to say about Apple, um, that they took away this eardrop program from the Chinese and now the Chinese can't communicate and have solace or test to fight their dictatorship government.
	I think that if the Biden administration was in touch with all the big tech companies when it came to Hunter Biden and told them to censor the Hunter Biden story, and they also told them to censor any information that says that the vaccine is a problem, then why aren't they out there putting pressure on Apple to put that back in China so that the Chinese can communicate using the eardrop
	technology and they should be telling the Apple company that if they don't do that then they're going to strip Apple of all the special benefits they get for being that size of a company and all the special benefits that the government is giving Apple.
	Here's the thing.
	You hit on something I think is important.
	All right.
	One of the things when Elon went after Apple, there were two things going on.
	One is exactly what you mentioned.
	Apple shut down the ability of the protesters.
	They were using AirDrop to pass messages around so they could bypass the censorship of the Chinese government.
	Chinese government went to Apple and said, Hey, shut it down.
	Apple shut it down.
	So Apple is on the side of oppressive communist tyrants.
	And Elon went and said, Okay, hey, I'm hearing you guys are threatening my app.
	Be ashamed if we had to put a lot of public pressure on you about that.
	So I think and it's not like Elon's clean on China too.
	Tesla's got problems with batteries and other things and they use Chinese suppliers and a lot of things there.
	So they're both dirty.
	And I think he went when he went to Apple yesterday and he told Tim Cook, I don't think you want to have this fight in public right now.
	And Tim Cook caved and they're not going to kick Twitter out of the app store.
	But I think you're right.
	The Biden administration should be telling Apple to let the protesters use that.
	The problem is they're compromised by the Chinese, not just Joe and Hunter and all the money they took.
	But overall, the Biden regime is far too sympathetic to the Chinese communists.
	So that's a that's a bad thing all the way around.
	And we may dig in that a little bit more later.
	How about Rick and Phoenix?
	Good afternoon, or wherever folks are.
	They need to know that I hear a lot of cheerleading about Elon Musk.
	And last night, there was a special report on what he's doing over in the Netherlands, presenting a program to the EU, where they put stimulus probes into monkeys' brains, and they have a monkey now who can play video games and type with his mind.
	Well, you know, they said we've developed this for paraplegics and people with Parkinson's and other things, so they'll be able to communicate.
	Well, that's one of those things that sounds real good, but eventually they'll be able to put things into your brain through that, through this transhuman activity that they're pushing.
	So I want people to be very aware of that and be wary of it because it's, they always make things sound good.
	And once they institute them, we pay the price. - No, and that's a fair point.
	All right, two things I wanna say about that.
	I think you're making a valid point.
	On the upside, I think it's a great idea to build something that lets paralyzed people or people who can't in any other way use their mind to control things in the modern world.
	I think that's a fantastic idea.
	I also think making sure that that doesn't turn into that transhuman concept you're mentioning and that somehow we have an avenue for a statist organization of some kind to get into our minds literally is a horror show.
	And I think we need to do everything we can to ensure that that's not even legal.
	All right, we need to have our elected representatives and the next time we get control, we should probably pass a no transhumanism act and forbid it.
	Make that illegal and make anybody who wants to even think about that fight uphill.
	You know, and I think overall, you know, the idea that Musk has a company doing that is good.
	The belief that the globalists and the rest of them would love nothing more than a way to inject stuff into our minds?
	Of course they would!
	You know, they don't trust us anyhow.
	The reason they were trying to shut down speech is so that we can't make decisions for ourselves, that we have to, you know, take the information they give us and make decisions that they agree with, or they shut us down and push us out of the public square.
	So I think there's two things going on there.
	And again, I don't think that Musk should be blamed for that, for doing the Neuralink thing, as long as we maintain control, we the people, through our elected representatives, of the idea that no outside entity, I mean, there can be no greater violation of the concept of individual liberty than having some sort of electronic device in your body that the government can control.
	The other piece of that is that's why they want a cashless world.
	You know, they want a cashless world so that they can have currency that they can pull back from you, that they can stop you from using somehow.
	And those are two things that the Republican Congress should be starting to work on and saying.
	We're not going to have a place where the thought police, you know, and Big Brother can tell us what to do with our money.
	And even worse, Even consider for a second the idea that we're going to let those disgraceful leftist tools inside our brains.
	My brain's too beautiful a place to have stupid, woke idiots wandering around and messing with the brilliant ideas I come up with every day.
	So I'm with you.
	I see the danger, but we can stop it.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're rocking and rolling today.
	It's going to be a crazy culture war kind of day.
	We will be back after the break with more America First Radio.
	Ran and didn't get to because I was a little animated.
	That means you got your finger on the pulse of the people, man.
	See?
	You know, I poke.
	I've got implants in people's minds, and all I do is I sit here and I go, wow.
	Can I just say, Jim, you've got the most beautiful brain.
	You've got the best brain.
	Other than mine, maybe.
	Yeah, Trump's brain.
	I heard a term I hadn't heard before, I don't know why, was smooth brain.
	Oh, that is, yeah, that's a negative term.
	Smooth brain's one of the new things.
	I have an extremely, my brain is as wrinkled as my forehead.
	I think that's a good thing, isn't that like a... Yeah, Wrinkly is good, Smoothbrain is a dumb... It's bad.
	It's bad.
	It's bad.
	It's like Craterhead.
	Not a beautiful brain.
	Apparently live on the Alex Jones show, Kanye, er, Jones used Kanye's Twitter account to tweet at Elon.
	Like, from his phone, he's like, well if I'm banned from Twitter, he's gone, he's gone.
	We can't.
	Who's running things?
	If this is a simulation, the guy running it is smoking meth right now.
	He's doing every drug in the book, man.
	Literally, he's on hallucinogens.
	I love this timeline, man.
	If this is how America goes down, then you know what?
	Yeah, I don't think we go down.
	I think it just gets crazier.
	We can learn to operate in this crazy world.
	That's the thing.
	Kanye's definitely not done yet.
	It's gonna get worse.
	It's just everybody adapting to social media.
	You know, that's kind of it.
	It's short attention span theater.
	We've shortened the OODA loop for Earth to the point where everything now happens in 280 characters and in a meme.
	And it's memetic culture.
	I'm not 100% against that because I'm funny and pithy and fast.
	You know, I can live like this and dominate.
	He said he didn't know who DeSantis was on the InfoWars show.
	Kanye didn't?
	Yeah.
	He said it's Trump and me only.
	He said something like DeSantis is a short, fat loser or something like that?
	Whatever.
	Oh, Jim, of course!
	Don't forget to remind the chat of their obligation.
	Yep, yep.
	So, Kanye in a gimp mask is gonna be one of the three potential topics.
	By default.
	Kanye, yeah, just Kanye going crazy.
	By default.
	In public, by default.
	But Rumble chat, people, we need a couple good, solid Can be good, crazy, bad, whatever.
	You know, you guys are in charge.
	Pop culture.
	Yeah.
	They can be pop culture, they could be serious quantum physics.
	I will discuss quantum physics if that is the will of the people.
	But let's get them so we can get the Twitter poll up second hour.
	Yep.
	And then I will dominate a rant on that topic.
	Whatever the topic is.
	I kind of want to do quantum physics.
	Test me on this.
	I can do it.
	I just never forget the first time.
	My big wrinkly brain can do that.
	The first time you did this and the winner of the poll was Alien vs. Predator.
	Right?
	It feels so great.
	Yeah, that was a fun one, too.
	Yeah, it was.
	Well, because, you know, Seb's doing a Movies Hour now with Mr. Reagan, the YouTuber, and the one they're doing tomorrow is Die Hard.
	Because it's Christmas season.
	Of course!
	It's the greatest Christmas movie ever!
	That's right, sorry, yeah, next week.
	So my daughter's fiancé, first time he showed up for Christmas, brought me Die Hard as a Christmas present.
	I'm like, dude, you can stay.
	Yeah, perfect, perfect.
	He actually did that and they brought like a pop-up, like a book of it, like a holiday, Die Hard holiday book with pop-ups.
	Yes.
	I'm like, alright.
	Yes, you can marry.
	With the Reagan liner.
	We've been using Reagan liners recently.
	Oh yeah, I love Reagan.
	I used to work for him.
	Nice!
	I was in the United States Army when he was commander in chief.
	Oh, of course.
	Yet any time
	you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, were denounced as being against their humanitarian goals.
	They say we're always against things, we're never for anything.
	Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant.
	It's just that they know so much that isn't so.
	What happened to the timeline when Reagan was alive and things were real and normal and smart?
	God, we could use that.
	We could use another Ronald Reagan.
	I used to work for him, as I mentioned to the crew during the break.
	I was a member of the United States Army and he was commander in chief.
	But during that time, people loved to talk smack about Reagan.
	And so when people asked me what I did, I would say I worked for Reagan.
	And they would go, really?
	All right, well, hey, I want to take one more call.
	Let's talk to Bill in Hotlanta.
	What's up?
	Well, one of the reasons the red wave did not occur, and I'm a Goldwater conservative, is that we had a war against sex and women.
	And I'll give you an example.
	A few months ago, I was at our neighborhood Walgreens store down here.
	And this movie star handsome guy comes into the pharmacy, and he's looking around.
	He says, he asked the clerk, where are the condoms?
	And the lady says, are you 18 years of age?
	He says, no, ma'am.
	I'm 16.
	Said, we can't sell condoms to underage people.
	What?
	Huh?
	And said here in Georgia, they have misdemeanor felonies for people, underage people, people below the age of 18 to have sex.
	And she said that their lawyers at Walgreens said that they would be considered contributing to a delinquency of a minor.
	Therefore, you can't have Alright, well that is a dumb idea.
	I mean, if we're going to pretend that kids aren't having sex, we're not fooling anybody, especially the kids who are having sex.
	So if the idea is we don't want them getting each other pregnant, the boys then getting the girls pregnant, since boys can't get pregnant, I don't care what you purple haired freaks say.
	then we need to act accordingly.
	And that means allowing them to buy condoms.
	And I guess the idea is, you know, a lot of people took the overturning of Roe v. Wade as an attack on women.
	What it was, was it stopping an attack on unborn children.
	But a lot of women take that personally.
	And I understand.
	And I think smart move for our team is rather than going ahead and just saying, OK, no, we're going to take an absolutist view.
	I can understand that morally.
	A life is a life.
	But we live in a country where if we lose power, they may just legalize abortion up to the moment of birth or shortly thereafter.
	So if we want to keep this going the right direction and staying in a positive way and fewer babies being killed, then we probably need to pick a viability date and make a deal.
	whatever it is, 16 weeks, something like that, where if the kid has a chance of living outside the mother's body, the kid should have a chance of living.
	You no longer get to intervene, period.
	And the number of people who can agree on that is massive.
	You can get 75, 80% agreement on something like that.
	So let's go ahead and get back in the center of the bell curve where most of the people have an agreement.
	And it's nice to say, in a perfect world, no one would ever abort a baby.
	Nothing like that would happen.
	And all babies would have happy homes and I would have a thick, luxurious head of hair and be emperor of the known world.
	That's not the planet we live on.
	Consequently, we need to do things that fall within the art of the possible.
	And the art of the possible right now is codifying that killing babies who could live outside the mother's body is murder.
	And let's get that done.
	You know, we won a massive win, massive decades in the making win to overturning Roe v. Wade.
	So let's not say, well, now the smart thing to do is let's alienate so many voters that we put the Democrats in power and they pass a law and have some Democrat president sign it that says, oh, no, no, no, you can kill all the babies you want because the Republicans pissed too many people off.
	So let's be smart.
	We want to move this in the right direction.
	Take what we can get now and get it in writing.
	That's the smart play.
	And I will understand people who think that is morally reprehensible.
	I believe it is morally wrong.
	But morally wrong does not mean we should do something dumb that causes a greater harm.
	And I think that is a decision that can be morally justified.
	It would be a greater moral wrong to lose control and let the Democrats legalize abortion.
	So let's be smart.
	We can be smart.
	We can win.
	We're going to get sick of winning.
	I'm sure I've heard that somewhere.
	Anyhow, this is Jim Hanson.
	We'll be back after the break with John Schweppe, and we're going to talk about Elon and the game, because I'm liking the game.
	Back after the break.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo!
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, we're back and glad to be joined by John Schweppe of the American Principles Project, who I love to talk to when we're talking about anything online and speech related.
	And John, I gotta tell you, man, I'm having a lot of fun with Elon kicking over all the conference tables, you know, wrecking people's rice bowls, just basically playing the disruptor that he likes to, but I think in a very effective way.
	What's your take?
	Yeah, no, we've been talking about this for months.
	You know, once he finally took over, was he actually going to follow through on this?
	And, you know, there's some worrying things early when he was talking about, you know, conversations with the ADL and all these other groups.
	But he's been wonderful.
	And, you know, I think obviously he has his limits.
	He's not truly a free speech absolutist.
	He doesn't want Alex Jones on the platform.
	You know, there's things like that.
	But really, you know, he sees that Twitter interfered in the 2020 election.
	He's said as much.
	and he wants to make sure that that doesn't happen again.
	And I think it's great.
	And so conservatives should be pretty happy with this.
	The hope is that this will actually affect some of the other platforms and really strengthen free speech online without any government involvement, which would be pretty cool. - And that's the whole point.
	We are conservatives.
	We don't want to have to use the government, but we had monopolies and we had a use of those monopolies to advance a partisan political agenda in a way that was fundamentally damaging our constitutional republic.
	And now there's a there's a crack in the dam.
	And I think you're right.
	The idea he went to Apple and, you know, he had a showdown with Tim Cook and Timmy backed down.
	You know, I think the same thing's in play right now with Google.
	You know, because Elon's saying, and I think, here's what I think he's doing with this, will I release the Hunter Biden and the election interference stuff?
	I think he's pressuring the Biden administration on two fronts.
	One, and the other tech companies.
	One, he knows he's got dirt on them because all his guys were talking to them too.
	It was coordinated, so there was collusion.
	And second, he wants the Biden administration to help him out with Europe.
	Because the Euros are wanting to use their hate speech garbage and censorship game on him, and he wants the Americans to stand up to the Euros on that in both cases.
	Yeah, I think he's, you know, very similar to Trump in that respect.
	He's a shrewd negotiator, right?
	And I think he made a very calculated play to appeal to the right to kind of get his, you know, fans that'll stand him and defend him.
	But he's also negotiating with these other guys, and I think he's very smart about that.
	So I think the key thing will be, look, number one, this is good for free speech.
	We should applaud it and continue to encourage Elon to go down the road he is.
	But number two, we also have to recognize, like, this happened before.
	It can happen again.
	We shouldn't say, OK, we're done.
	We don't need to pass Section 230 or do any of these things.
	We still need to prepare as if it's going to happen again.
	But, you know, hopefully pressure these companies and get them to do the right thing for free speech and fair elections.
	So my view on that is if you run a business that provides a service that you offer freely to all Americans, with no discriminating factors, at some size level you become some version of a common carrier.
	And we can argue about what the size is, a million customers, I don't care.
	You know, thumb wrestle the details over, that's what we hire people to do.
	But basically the idea is we can't have giant corporations deciding they will or will not provide a service based on whether they like what you say or think if it's not illegal.
	Right.
	And we have plenty of precedent for that.
	Lots of industries are common carriers right now.
	It would make sense that a communications media would be that as well.
	And that's, look, ultimately, one of the things I stress to my liberal friends who are really worried about misinformation, you know, we talk about it.
	Some of this, like, really extreme racist stuff, whatever, when it's out in the light and it gets debunked and people push back on it, the racists don't look very good.
	That's what we should want.
	We should want a free public square where we can debunk the bad ideas and promote the best ones, and I think that's what we're going to get on Twitter, hopefully.
	And the idea being, okay, if you shut down the evil speech, no one sees it.
	They don't stop talking.
	They just form smaller little cells and they hatch their plots in private with themselves and their friends, the feds, who are in almost every one of these circles.
	But if they're in public, you made the point that matters.
	They can be ridiculed.
	They can be mocked.
	They can be debunked.
	They can be exposed for the mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, troglodyte tools that they are.
	And that's better!
	Every time there's a Nazi rally anywhere in America, there's 10 Nazis and 10,000 counter-protesters.
	And that's good.
	That's healthy.
	You know, it's not that anyone is promoting or allowing that.
	It's not like they're going to gain traction with their crazy ideas.
	They're going to look like idiots.
	No, without going down this road.
	I mean, you look at Kanye right now, who's losing it online, losing it on these shows, went on Tim Pool, went on Alex Jones Today.
	He's doing anti-Semitism a big disfavor here, right?
	Because ultimately, it's showing that it's skin deep.
	It's very stupid.
	And most Americans who see this stuff are going to think that.
	And so, again, you put this stuff out in the public when it's dumb, when it's not true, when it's laughable, people make fun of it.
	And then it gets suppressed by, you know, through the free market of ideas.
	So in the free market of advertising, what's Elon going to do now here?
	He's got a challenge and it's somewhat self-inflicted and properly that advertisers are looking at going, but I don't want to be next to that.
	And that's fair.
	Look at Balenciaga.
	You don't want your advertising to be killing your brand.
	So you need to be able to now make a pitch to advertisers that says, we're going to keep enough of an eye on this, but not going to throttle free speech.
	Can Elon walk that walk?
	It's going to be tough.
	I mean, obviously, especially since these advertisers are being pressured by woke leftists, you know, attracting attention to this stuff.
	But I think what Elon really has to focus on is illegal content.
	And he's been doing that, right?
	So a lot of these advertisers are out there saying, well, now we're going to pull our stuff from Twitter.
	Well, Twitter actually had a pre-existing problem, not just with pornography, but with child pornography.
	And so, you know, now Elon's really trying to rid the platform of that.
	He should use the bully pulpit and expose them for that.
	Oh, you're going to complain about speech, but you didn't care you were advertising happily here when there's child pornography.
	That's pretty messed up.
	Well, and that's, that's, I think, part of the game he plays is he's always got cards in his hand because he's got all the receipts.
	Right.
	He is the ownership.
	I mean, Jack Vesobic said it yesterday.
	He said Elon bought a crime scene.
	All right.
	And he's got everything.
	Yeah.
	And he can use that.
	And I think to your point, if he wants to go ahead and say, okay, I'll have, if I, he said he, he would shame the advertisers and he should, you know, and, and I think having those kinds of things and saying, you're, this is a picture of your content next to some pretty heinous stuff when Jack Dorsey was running things and you didn't seem to care.
	All right, we're talking with John Schweppe, Director of Policy for the American Principles Project.
	After the break, we're going to dig into the larger issues of our tech economy and how we can work all that together.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	Because otherwise this thing flops down and it looks like I got a hearing aid. - Thank you.
	I'm old, but I'm not that old.
	Not that old.
	Nah.
	I'm waiting.
	I'm figuring we're, we're not far from organ regeneration and all that.
	So I figured I'm easy past a hundred.
	You know what I mean?
	I'll just replace the stuff I've worn out.
	That's what Elon's all about, right?
	We just gotta be besties with him and we'll live forever.
	I'm working on it.
	Um, I don't know.
	Keep talking, John.
	Testing one, two, three.
	Yeah, I can.
	Great.
	Fantastic.
	Yeah, dude, I'm just really enjoying, because I'm an inside the OODA loop kind of guy.
	So I believe in disrupt, watch them flail, react, reorient, hit them again, right?
	And the left's so not used to it.
	It works on anybody, right?
	Not always, depending on how good they are at the game.
	But people who aren't used to getting kicked in the mouth, Suck at Oodaloop games, and Elon's winning so many of them.
	Have you seen, I think this morning, some Media Matters guy got suspended from Twitter?
	And they were just freaking out about it, and it's like, dude, that happens to us every... It still happens, you know?
	Like, he's fixing it now.
	Really?
	You got suspended and you don't know why?
	Weird, man!
	I've never heard of that.
	I think they got him for what, having bot accounts to promote his... Yeah, something like that.
	Whatever.
	Sock puppets, who knew?
	Yeah, I'm shocked by the bots.
	Wow.
	So, you got something fun next?
	Yeah, we actually partnered with Pedro Gonzalez and we did this Transgender Leviathan Report and he goes into all the big money behind trying to sex change kids.
	It's fascinating stuff.
	I started reading that.
	I saw that he dropped it, and I read the tweet thread, and I haven't read the report.
	It's long, so I mean, it's a little hard to read, but he did amazing research, and so we're gonna push that.
	I mean, dude, it's Big Pharma.
	They're behind this.
	They're asking, is Pritzker's sister part of that?
	I don't have that, but I think... She probably.
	They're in all the worst things.
	Oh yeah, dude.
	AbbVie is the company that's big behind it.
	They're the Lupron or whatever that stuff is?
	That's heinous, man.
	Just the idea, all we have to say is this is used to castrate sex offenders, pedophiles, and for your child.
	For your unhappy child.
	Shut up.
	People are evil.
	The double mastectomies on girls is the thing that just gets me absolutely crazy.
	Because, you know, girls always, I mean, it's not shocking, girls struggle with body.
	So, you know, girls always, I mean, it's not shocking, girls struggle with body.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	I am Jim Hansen, and we are talking to John Schweppe from American Principles Project, and we're trying to figure out what the landscape is for our online and tech world coming up.
	And I guess I'm curious, the idea now that both You know, Apple and Google have been involved in censorship to help the Chinese government oppress their people.
	I think is an area that Elon exploited to get Tim Cook to back down.
	You know, I think, I think that was one of those weak spots.
	He's like, I've got a cards, you know, and it's not like Elon's hands are clean.
	Tesla's dirty with China ties too.
	Right.
	All right.
	So he's got that, but I think he, I can picture him sitting across from Cook and saying, do you really want to go down this path, my brother?
	You know, do you want me to point out the stuff I know from the Chinese about what you're doing with them?
	And I think there's a there's a game to be played now, given the Chinese protests and given our need to build a new American economy and talk about bringing stuff back offshore.
	Can we pressure companies to do things in America that they're now doing with China and leave China as a marketplace, not our primary manufacturing facility?
	Well, we should do that.
	It'd be tremendously popular.
	And if Biden was smart, he'd make that a part of his agenda.
	So he won't.
	So he won't, because obviously they love China.
	But, you know, this is really important.
	I mean, again, you hinted at it, but what Apple did, you know, there was this airdrop feature that was really benefiting the protesters over there.
	And Apple acted on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party to suppress that and prevent people from using it.
	I mean, that's really nasty stuff, right?
	Right.
	They should be called before Congress and really have to answer for that.
	And so I think Congress, you listening?
	Yeah, yeah, that'd be really good.
	So I think, you know, we need to have an anti-China.
	The Republicans need to have a pretty aggressive anti-China policy.
	But we have to recognize our tech companies are in bed with China, and we have to push against them for that as well.
	And Apple's the worst actor, actually, on that.
	100%.
	And okay, so does that mean incentives?
	I mean, there are obviously ways we can both punish Chinese tech companies and benefit U.S.
	companies if they bring it home.
	We need jobs.
	We need a new tech economy where we're not just the ones moving information around, we're actually moving hardware around and building it.
	The Internet of Things, all of these things that are coming together, I don't see why we can't suck it up a little bit, pay a little bit more in the short term and build stuff here.
	It's probably got to be a mix of carrots and sticks, but I got to be honest, we've been treating our tech companies very nicely for a long time.
	So I'm pretty fond of sticks.
	And I think, you know, when it comes to Apple and Google, especially, you know, given what they do domestically with the app store and how they really rig the game against small businesses and app developers, I think we need to pass legislation to really come down hard on them on it.
	Let's.
	Well, that's the solution.
	We've offered you guys a lot of friendliness, but maybe a few tax breaks if you bring some manufacturing home.
	But stop playing nice with the Chai-coms.
	They're bad guys.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We've been talking with John Schweppe, Director of Policy, American Principles Project.
	They do great work.
	Check them out.
	We'll be back after the break with some good news for people damaged by January 6th, a great group that's raising money for them.
	Back after the break.
	Give me one.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, welcome back.
	And I am thrilled right now to be joined by someone who is doing the work that too few people have taken on in a time where we have people in need.
	Her name is Cynthia Hughes.
	She runs the Patriot Freedom Project, and they are raising money to help the people in the Gulag and all of those who have been attacked by the abuse of power by our deep state.
	And I want to welcome you to the show, Cynthia.
	Thank you for having me, Jim.
	It's nice to see you.
	And I greatly appreciate the fact you've got a fundraiser tonight that I'm going to, and I can't wait to see you there.
	But you're taking time out of that to talk to us, and I wanted to make sure that everybody who listens to America First Radio can hear the need And also, hopefully, reach in their pockets and donate some money to help.
	My wife, Samantha, says this all the time.
	Where is the money to take care of our side like the left has for their team?
	You get a bunch of rioters and looters.
	You got the vice president, future vice president of the United States, begging for money for them.
	Where's the people doing that on our side?
	And she's sitting right there on the other side of this conversation.
	So tell us about what you need to help these people.
	So, you know, I've had the honor of meeting a ton of the families that are affected by, you know, January 6th.
	I've met, you know, mothers, I've met wives.
	This week, I have several of the families here in D.C.
	that are coming to the fundraiser tonight.
	And I was just with them yesterday with all of their babies.
	And let me tell you, Jim, it's very, very, it gives you a lot of perspective.
	Um, makes you realize that, uh, whatever problems you think you have, they're small in comparison.
	When you hear a three-year-old daughter on the phone with her daddy asking him, when is he coming home?
	Um, the community that I've created here for these families and seeing the interaction with these women is so humbling.
	Um, it just brings joy to my heart.
	Uh, it's amazing.
	You're going to see it for yourself tonight.
	Um, the way they help each other, the way they comfort each other, who's helping, uh, you know, with what child, who's changing a diaper, who's, you know, making a bottle.
	Um, they were cooking dinner together, hugging each other.
	Um, but listening to the children of these men that are behind bars is heartbreaking.
	It's absolutely heartbreaking.
	And the country needs to know what is going on besides Uh, you know, the talk about what's going on at the D.C.
	jail.
	It is so much bigger than the 18 men that are left in the D.C.
	jail.
	We have multiple J6 detainees spread around this country in different jails, and we have a lot of collateral damage, and that is the wife and the children.
	Well, God bless you for taking this on.
	I wish this wasn't a problem.
	I wish the word gulag to be used in the United States of America is a disgrace, but to call it anything less is unfair.
	But as you point out, The people in the gulag are suffering, and not to diminish that, but all of them have, as you mentioned, families, friends, and issues trying to keep their lives together as the government uses its jackboot to kind of crush their spirit.
	And I think in this case, we can say it's great for the families to help each other and change diapers and do all that, but we need people to step up and actually give some money.
	So tell them how they can do that because let's let's not even pussyfoot around this.
	That's important.
	It is important.
	It's very important.
	You have a lot of women who, you know, have had to step up in the absence of their husband who've lost income that are working, you know, two jobs or they're working overtime, you know, so these children haven't lost just You know, one parent, they've kind of lost two because, you know, mom is filling in for the gap.
	You know, you have teenage boys that are also working to help mom pay some bills.
	There's a lot of collateral damage and we need to raise money and we need to continue to help these, you know, these families keep their heads above water.
	You know, paying mortgage, paying rent, paying a utility bill.
	We have Christmas coming up in a few weeks.
	You know, I met with one of the boys yesterday.
	He's a teenage boy.
	of a man that was just recently sentenced to eight years in prison.
	This young boy you could see is, you know, he's struggling.
	He's struggling without his father.
	And I asked him, what is it that would help you right now in this struggle?
	And he said, well, I love playing the guitar.
	I would love to take guitar lessons.
	We have to make sure that happens.
	Because without a man in the home with these kids, you know, There could be more fallout and more collateral damage.
	So the more money we raise, the more we can do to help these kids and their families.
	And of course, we have to continue to help the guys that are in jail.
	We have to support our lawyers.
	We have great lawyers on these cases, and we need to continue to build that.
	So if you visit the PatriotFreedomProject.com, that's PatriotFreedomProject.com, you could see all the ways that you can assist our efforts.
	OK, so now I we both know Julie Kelly.
	She is one of my she was a great American.
	She is probably the greatest investigative journalist in this country right now.
	And and the work she's done to illuminate what has been done to these defendants and the people who have been charged and overcharged and re-overcharged and pushed and scared into taking plea deals for crimes they didn't commit.
	A lot of them had to take those plea deals because they didn't think they could afford.
	They couldn't risk taking a chance on a trial or anything, and they didn't have the money to pay the lawyers they'd need any house.
	So that's one of the things we can help with as well, right?
	They can help pay for lawyers so the people who didn't commit the crimes they're charged with don't have to take a plea deal because they're scared and don't have any other alternative.
	Yeah, we have a great legal defense fund here with Patriot Freedom Project.
	Several of the lawyers that we work with will be present tonight here at the fundraiser.
	You know, coming out to support our efforts.
	I have a great relationship with a lot of these lawyers.
	We have financially helped many of the lawyers on many cases.
	And I'm not trying to take away from the heartache and the pain that we have seen in the D.C.
	Jail.
	Lord knows I know.
	My nephew was there for 22 months.
	He lived in solitary confinement.
	I know what he went through.
	I know what all of these men have gone through there.
	But it's bigger than the D.C.
	Jail.
	I mean, you have over 100 people that are behind bars.
	And you have a thousand people at this point, you know, arrested, charged and indicted in this.
	And, you know, there are some good public defenders, but not many.
	And we need to assemble more lawyers and we need to put more of our own lawyers on these cases.
	And to do that, we need to raise money.
	You know, a lot of these lawyers are taking on these cases at reduced rates as it is, but these cases are very involved.
	I mean, you're talking You know, researchers and, uh, you know, um, you know, expert witnesses and, you know, more, you know, a lawyer is going to need, you know, multiple paralegals.
	We really need to raise funds to help these great lawyers continue to help the families and, uh, and to keep going with this.
	This DOJ is far from done, um, you know, arresting people and obliterating people's lives.
	And just to note on, um, what your comments were.
	I want you to know I just got off the phone with the great Jewel.
	I call her the Jewel.
	She gave me a call.
	Unfortunately, she can't be here tonight with all of us, but she is a fearless warrior.
	She is the best journalist on this case.
	She has been on this case when nobody else was.
	She has been writing incredibly in-depth articles and doing massive research.
	She is an incredible Incredible human being.
	I absolutely adore this woman.
	So many of us do.
	She's good to so many of us.
	I love this woman.
	So many could say good things about her.
	She's so ridiculously nice, too.
	That's the other thing.
	You know, as good as she is, as great an attack dog journalist as she is, she is just sweet.
	And I love her, too.
	My wife's got a girl crush on her.
	They talk fashion and all that.
	Well, and I think the thing you mentioned that scares me the most is they're not done.
	So I think, remind everybody again where to go and what to do to help.
	And I'm going to ask you, I'm going to look right in the camera right now and tell everybody, it's good for you this Christmas to help these people out because they're being abused by the very system that we need to stop.
	So where can they go?
	What can they do?
	You can visit thepatriotfreedomproject.com.
	You can see all the ways that you can, you know, support our efforts.
	You know, we're trying to assemble a, you know, a large mental health community.
	We have a great mental health community going.
	A lot of people are getting free counseling, you know, through Patriot Freedom Project.
	You know, you could see the ways you can help the families and also you could see the ways that you can help our lawyers.
	Please do.
	I'm just going to make it that direct.
	Please do, because we owe it to them.
	It's not that any of us believe that people who commit crimes should get away with them, but most of these people did not commit the crimes they are charged with, and that's a travesty.
	They and their families need your help.
	Cynthia Hughes, patriotfreedomproject.com.
	Please go.
	Thank you so much for what you're doing.
	I know this takes up tons of your time.
	God bless you.
	Thank you.
	See you soon.
	Right on.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're going to be doing some more America First Radio after the break.
	First Radio.
	Razor to run tonight.
	Of course, no.
	God's work right there.
	Dude, I hate organizing fundraisers.
	But that's a worthy cause.
	They raise funds, yeah.
	It really is enraging.
	Again, just the other day, earlier this week, Seb had Jerry Perna on the show, the aunt of Matt Perna.
	It was just like, yeah.
	Nope.
	Whoever Republican gets in office next needs to pardon everybody and pay reparations.
	All of them.
	Oh, 100%.
	Everyone.
	The QAnon shaman.
	Everybody.
	That poor guy.
	I might let him fry.
	They literally admitted in the sentencing they gave him four years because he became a symbol of J6.
	Isn't that sick?
	And he was just a poor, demented guy who was enjoying the attention.
	He was enjoying it.
	He was having fun.
	He was larping.
	So far in the poll, by the way, Kanye Alex Jones is in the lead with a majority of votes right now.
	As to be expected.
	I'll be surprised if that one loses.
	I'll be surprised and sad.
	Yeah, and we make game in this system.
	I got bots I haven't deployed yet.
	Me and Elon have a deal.
	My bot army gets to stay alive.
	But on the whole AOC thing, that's the thing I find so fascinating between her and Ilhan Omar and others.
	They talk about how much they hate white people.
	They hate white people and they both go home to white boyfriends now.
	Weird.
	Is the poll up yet?
	Oh yeah, it's up.
	Which one's leading?
	Kanye, Alex Jones.
	Yeah, I thought the AOC won, Mike.
	I could see that one.
	It's in second right now.
	Yeah, the ether quantum field thing is last.
	How about should Jim send AOC's boyfriend a copy of Baste?
	So here's the funny thing.
	My – My niece, my sister's daughter, and her husband are very, very liberal.
	Oh boy.
	And so we've always been going at it.
	I actually used to get told, don't make them cry when we come to family events, right?
	Because I cause trauma, shockingly.
	But we're all getting together for Christmas, right?
	And here's my cunning plan.
	There will be no presents given among the adults, but they've got a new baby.
	And so we're just supposed to bring books for the baby.
	Oh boy.
	So I'm gonna bring all three of my books, signed.
	But I'll also include in the package a big Best of Calvin and Hobbes.
	Because I think that's the ultimate.
	My daughter learned to read.
	After she graduated from Dr. Seuss directly to Calvin and Hobbes and that was what she learned to read on.
	When I came back from Thanksgiving I brought back a bunch of my books with me including I have like every Calvin Hobbes book ever I read that stuff as a kid and I have the three massive treasuries and they're all like the covers are flayed from like constant page turning when I read them as a kid, but I brought them back and I'm just like, God, I miss this so much.
	So when I was probably 35, 38, somewhere in there, my mom for Christmas gave me the box set, hardcover, full color, beautiful three volume Calvin and Hobbes complete.
	Yes.
	It's one of my prized possessions.
	It's so great, like, it perfectly captures what, like, little kids' imaginations are so like, and yet at the same time... What do you mean, little kids?
	It's got nothing... There are no kids in that.
	This is a commentary on the human existence.
	The human condition.
	The human condition.
	And I have been Calvin since before Calvin was Calvin.
	And it's just fun.
	Such a national treasure.
	And the author just, like, vanished after he finished the strip.
	And didn't copyright it.
	No.
	No merchandise.
	Nothing.
	No.
	I mean... I get it.
	Yeah.
	Alright, this is the B-segment, so Angel Tree.
	Gotcha.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Yes, I am.
	Well, today is December 1st, which means that Christmas is only 25 days away.
	Dr. Gorka has been asking each of you to support his annual Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign so that America's 1.5 million children with a parent in prison aren't forgotten on the holiest day of the year.
	All over America, including where you live, Angel Tree volunteers are racing the calendar to use your donations and connect incarcerated parents with Angel Tree staff, who help arrange for the delivery of a Christmas gift, a Bible, and a personalized message from their parent in prison to bless children on December 25th.
	And it all starts when you go to SebGorka.com and click on the Angel Tree banner to make your tax-deductible donation.
	Listen to Angel Tree volunteer Denise tell you what happens next.
	It was such a blessing to assist these men and women sign up their children for Angel Tree.
	Many of the inmates thanked us for being there.
	One man handed me his Angel Tree form for review and said when he gets out of prison he'd be supporting Angel Tree because it's been a blessing to his child for three years.
	But the blessings can only happen if you step up and support Dr. Gorka's campaign with your donation of $25 to support one prisoner's child or $50 to bless two kids.
	You do the math and see how many kids you can help.
	But please act today.
	There are only 25 days left until Christmas.
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	$125 will bless five children.
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	Please call right now to phone in a gift.
	888-206-2794.
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	With only 25 days until Christmas is here, please don't wait.
	Okay, I want to jump back into January 6th and follow up on the conversation. I want to jump back into January 6th and follow If you missed the last segment, Cynthia Hughes of Patriot Freedom Project was talking about the work they're doing to raise money to take care of both
	The prisoners in the gulag and also their families and try to make this travesty better in some way.
	But let's talk about the current state of the travesty because there was some pretty ridiculously sad news for the Republic this week.
	They got guilty verdicts back for seditious conspiracy against two of the Oath Keepers.
	And I don't know that everything the Oath Keepers did was above board.
	I'm sure There were some things that were wrong and there are probably some punishments that were deserved somewhere inside of there.
	They were a little bit over the line in a number of ways.
	What they did not do in any way, shape or form was conspire to overthrow our government or use violence to stop it from functioning.
	The government had to release most of their evidence in the affidavits supporting these indictments and throughout the trial, and the one thing they did not have was any evidence of a conspiracy to do seditious behavior, and certainly none of a planned insurrection.
	Almost everything they used to show that there was prior planning or a conspiracy was related to the possibility that Antifa might crash the protest, might crash the rally.
	So they had had a number of times previously Antifa had showed up at places where there were election rallies or other conservative things.
	These guys knew that.
	So what they did is they did some You know, paramilitary style training.
	And they did some planning for what would happen is if Antifa tried to commit violence against the peaceful protest happening at the Capitol.
	So they brought guns and they brought a bunch of other stuff.
	And they also had the one thing that even vaguely falls into the area that the government used against them was that they brought weapons, left them in Virginia, which is not what you do if you're going to have an insurrection.
	They left them in Virginia for the possibility that President Trump, if things got out of hand, would.
	would invoke the Insurrection Act and ask for help from the militia being able-bodied citizens with weapons.
	That's a legal contingency.
	That could happen.
	It didn't.
	And guess what?
	Their weapons stayed in Virginia.
	There was no armed insurrection.
	So the whole idea that either one of those things, the planning, for the potential of violence from Antifa and the bringing of weapons for the unlikely occurrence, whether or not the Oath Keepers and other people wanted it to happen, it didn't happen and they didn't act on it.
	What did happen was the rally at the Capitol got out of hand and turned into a riot.
	Riots are not insurrections.
	Riots that aren't planned are not part of a seditious conspiracy.
	Neither the riot, or entering the Capitol, or any form of seditious activity was planned by any of those people.
	And yet.
	In a company town of D.C.
	with a company judge and deep state prosecutors and a state security apparatus that lied, cheated, steal, and infiltrated those organizations, they got a conviction.
	Now, I think the most telling thing about what a garbage put up this whole thing was, they had informants in these organizations who didn't testify at trial.
	Now, huh, that's weird.
	Alright, the FBI, the feds, had feds and paid informants inside these groups, but they didn't testify to any seditious conspiring or other activity at all.
	Why is that?
	I know why that is, and so do you!
	Because there wasn't any.
	But they did this anyhow.
	It is a grotesque miscarriage of justice.
	It is a heinous abuse of power and is one of the most disgraceful things that has happened to Americans in my adult life.
	I think whoever the next Republican executive and commander-in-chief is needs to pardon all of these people and pay them all.
	You can't get the time back.
	But you can at least right the wrong of them being, in this case, convicted for a horrendous crime that didn't occur.
	And for all the other people who they've used the power of the state and abused their authority to threaten them with incredible amounts of jail time for what was essentially trespassing in Trump gear.
	That's not a felony.
	And yet, we have all kinds of people who did not have the resources to fight this, or had to fear a D.C.
	jury in a company town that would convict them as they did the Oath Keepers for this garbage charge of seditious conspiracy.
	I'm sickened and disgusted.
	I'll remind you again, patriotfreedomproject.com is a place you can go help their families and them.
	You know, the ones who are still in the gulag.
	She said there's 18 still in the gulag and we need to do something about it and whatever you can do, do.
	We will continue to make noise.
	We need to elect better officials and we need to right these wrongs because I guarantee The left didn't do this when their side rioted.
	It's only our team that ends up in a federal prison.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	We'll be back after the break.
	Let's take it a couple more calls.
	833-33-GORKA.
	833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	833-334-6752.
	Back after the break.
	Mic's up.
	All right. All right. All right.
	oh boy so was there anything beyond the gimp mask and just the absolute chaos of the kanye that happened The Gimp mask, I mean, within the interview?
	They went into detail about the dinner, Hal.
	Trump had no idea who Fuentes was.
	Yeah, whatever.
	They're just, at this point, they're trying to mend fences because they know they screwed up.
	Like, did you watch any more, like, the bit with Laura Loomer, Geoff?
	Or any of that?
	I stopped at that point.
	Like, Laura Loomer called it, because she's going after Milo.
	She's claiming that Milo is fleecing Kanye for what's left of his money.
	He posted- You think?
	What does, like, Laura Loomer do now?
	Like, how does she have a job?
	She fleeces people for their money!
	I mean, whatever!
	Well, because she was previously the big candidate of the Fuentes movement.
	Like, they supported her candidacy.
	But, I mean, she's gotta be unhirable now, anywhere, like... Pretty much, yeah.
	Except, like, InfoWars, man.
	Well, no, actually, she's probably not even allowed in InfoWars anymore, I don't think.
	I'm not sure.
	I don't get how these people make- Like, what has Milo been doing for the last three years?
	That's a good question.
	Yeah.
	I mean, apparently, he's backing Fuentes now.
	I just- Oh, I don't know, man.
	It's so weird.
	If they don't have monetizable platforms, I mean, I guess that's what I'm getting at.
	It's not like there's a big empire.
	And Fuente's platform isn't big enough.
	No.
	It's like 30 or 40,000 people.
	Not even that.
	No, they use view multipliers on his platform.
	So, like, they always have, like, twice as many views.
	It shows twice as many views as they actually have.
	This has been confirmed by people who used to be, like, so many of his top guys have left him, and have ditched it, or, like, oh yeah, Cozy uses, like, view multipliers, so, like, if you open multiple tabs, it counts as multiple views.
	So how can you make money at $20,000 a night?
	You can't.
	Barely even, yeah, yeah, like, less than $10,000, but, like, yeah, no, it's, it's... He gets superchats, I think, through, like, crypto, maybe?
	Um... But how much are you even getting out of that?
	Yeah, but it was all SBF and FTX, so he's... Dogecoin, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's weird.
	It's like you said, Jeff.
	Someone's got to be funding him.
	Like a single big backer.
	It's probably the same people who fund Bulwark and them.
	Why wouldn't you fund these idiots?
	I think someone on the left is funding Fuentes.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Pierre Omidar funded Bulwark.
	Right, you know?
	That's why I love their new thing.
	Soros.
	Resolute Square.
	We will form Resolute Square.
	Oh yeah, they're all over that.
	Come on.
	I love that when the Dispatch, I think it was the Dispatch, when they launched, their slogan was literally, Conserving Conservatism.
	And I'm like, literally admitting that you're just conserving yourselves and your degrees and ivory towers and nothing else.
	They didn't think that one through, folks.
	Conserving conservatives named Goldberg.
	Oh no!
	I hope Kanye didn't hear that.
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah, again, I'm so curious as to why.
	I mean, clearly he's got an emotional breakdown after divorcing Kim.
	Why the Jews, though?
	Why of all the things he could target, why the Jews?
	It's deep in the black community.
	It's funny how bad the anti-Semitism is.
	I mean, the most racist community in America is black America, by far.
	They hate Asians, they hate Latinos, they hate white people.
	And Jews, top of the list.
	You know, that's who's doing all the beatings in New York.
	You know, and so there's always backchatter, and there has been, and it's the idea that black communities are poor because the Jews are pulling the money out.
	Wait, doesn't Sharpton also say stuff like that?
	Or he's a little more covert about it?
	Yeah, no, he used to.
	Now he comes on and criticizes Flint. 15 seconds. 15 seconds.
	15 seconds.
	Ronnie Reagan, always bringing the truth.
	And guess what?
	That was 25, 35, how many years ago?
	I don't want to do the math because I was young.
	But the bottom line is it's not getting better.
	It has not gotten better.
	The deep state has gotten deeper and they're using that power to push their agenda and to control dissent.
	Now we are dissent.
	And I think one of the interesting things is we are the ones now who are the counterculture.
	We are the ones who are the resistance.
	You know, we're the ones fighting back against the man.
	The man is the left.
	Which is funny because, I mean, in my youth, the man was, you know, stuffy conservatives who read National Review.
	I think it's funny.
	One of my buddies came over to my house when I was 20-something, and he saw on my coffee table a copy of National Review, which at that point in time was a well-respected conservative magazine.
	And he says, ah, it shouldn't surprise me that you read uptight white guy magazine.
	And I was like, I could dig that.
	You know, I mean, that kind of makes sense to me.
	But look, it's something that we now have to get used to and push back on and fight until we're no longer controlled by the government and at this point by corporations.
	And one of the things that's been coming up is, and I saw this, this is the way they slip things in on you.
	You know, they're like, oh, we want to stop mass shootings.
	So what we're going to do is we're going to create a way to track credit card purchases that will alert us to when potentially someone's going to shoot people.
	Okay.
	Um, I can, I can think of a million problems with that, but let's start with the simple ones.
	Stop watching what I buy!
	You're not allowed to do that.
	That's a warrantless search.
	So, no, you should not be able to do that.
	If credit card companies for some reason want to have that information, great.
	The second they pass that on to law enforcement, we have lost our rights under the Fourth Amendment.
	So they need to stop that.
	But their little game they play is, no, we're just going to watch and see.
	And if there's strange amounts, we already do it for fraud.
	Yeah, that's fraud to protect me from people stealing my credit card information and using it to buy stuff.
	All right.
	I don't want you watching what I legally buy, especially the only product mentioned in the Constitution, a weapon.
	And you deciding, oh well maybe this is sketchy.
	I'm sorry, I buy enough guns and ammo that if they start this program I'm gonna have somebody knocking on my door and I'm gonna be extremely agitated at that point in time if they ask me why I just bought 10,000 rounds of ammo and two guns.
	That is none of your damn business.
	And the second that happens, we have a problem.
	Well, they're trying to do it.
	So this is another one of those places where we need to look at this.
	And we're going to end up talking about Kanye and his craziness in the next hour.
	But one of the things that happened to him is they shut his banking down.
	Okay, Kanye made some stupid statements about the Jews, because he's a crazy guy, and they shut his banking down.
	His bank called him and said, nah, get your money out.
	And I'm sorry, that is garbage.
	A man can run his mouth and say stupid things, and if the financial institutions, which are essentially a commodity now, You know, they're part of the whole idea.
	If you run a giant organization and you serve everyone, you can't discriminate because you don't like the legal things that person does.
	That's where, again, we talked with John Schweppe about it.
	We need Congress to step in.
	And one of the few things government can do is say, no, you can't discriminate if you're talking about legal behavior.
	And I think we need to spread that a little farther.
	Banks shouldn't be allowed to do it.
	Credit card companies shouldn't be allowed to spy on us because all of a sudden they're worried about what we're going to do.
	I don't care if you're worried about what we're going to do.
	If it's legal, piss off!
	You're not allowed to hassle me about that.
	So I think there's a whole array of things they're trying to collude together with Deep state power and corporate power, you know, and the indoctrination of the kids.
	They want to make everybody believe that the things they're doing are so important and so necessary that they can violate our most basic rights.
	And that ain't the way this works.
	That's not how this country is designed to operate.
	Alright, if you've got any thoughts on this or anything else, I will still open up the phone lines 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	We've got time.
	We're going to have my buddy, you know if I'm guest hosting, that my man Kurt Schlichter is going to be on the show.
	So he'll be on top of the hour, but we got a couple segments before then, so we'll keep chatting about the rest of this stuff.
	And I am a little chafed about government overreach, and I got a feeling I'm not the only one.
	So if you got thoughts on that, give a call 833-33-GORKA.
	This is Jim Hansen, and we'll be back after the break.
	Standing there, huh?
	- Almost, yeah.
	Oh. - All right.
	This is the C segment for coming into.
	or no, this is going to be the D segment we're entering here.
	Dun dun dun.
	I can't believe the Congress has the authority to like...
	Force the rail workers to accept a deal.
	I didn't know that was a thing.
	What's that based on?
	Is that some old union deal we made?
	Allegedly they did it once before in 92 to avoid a rail strike.
	Like they passed another law back then to force the unions to agree.
	So it's like some eminent domain-y type thing they made up?
	Maybe?
	Because it's like public lands?
	I don't know.
	Well, the funny thing I noticed is it mentioned in the article I read Back in 92, when that previous bill came up, one of the six Democratic senators who voted against it was the guy from Delaware.
	Yeah.
	Weird.
	How could that happen?
	And I'm not surprised that AOC was one of the eight Democrats who voted against this one.
	And I'm like, yeah, that's a real working class stance right there.
	No, working class has their demands.
	Let them make their demands.
	Don't force them to agree to a bad deal.
	No, no, no.
	You'll take the deal you're given like everybody else.
	It's not like they actually like the workers.
	They're just, you know, that's another cudgel to use against all of us.
	But they just, I mean, because obviously a real strike would have just destroyed this country, like for even for a couple of weeks, it would be No doubt.
	No doubt.
	All right.
	Kanye, Alex Jones still winning the poll by a decisive margin.
	All right.
	Oh, good.
	He's probably going to win.
	Oh, yeah.
	Someone else in the chat pointed out it's like what Reagan did with the air traffic controllers.
	I mean, that wasn't even forcing him to accept the deal.
	He fired them.
	That was kind of fun.
	That was one of my favorite moves ever.
	He's like, oh really?
	Bye!
	No, that was in the Reagan documentary.
	They show the union.
	They're all there and they're watching the TV.
	And he comes out and he's like, they just announced they're on strike and they're all like, yeah!
	And he's like, you've all been fired.
	And it's like, dead silence in the room.
	It's the best clip I've ever seen.
	It's like Trump announcing when he fires people via Twitter.
	That's so great.
	And then a buddy of mine told me that, of course, when eventually they renamed the airport after Reagan, like, old, like, left-wing boomers got, you know, still to this day are salty about that.
	Because, like, he fired the air traffic controllers that named the damn airport after him.
	Like, it's just...
	Oh, I love... I have a cousin who was also a very Reagan-hating person, and so I used to... I mean, he's from D.C., and he had moved away, and when they renamed it, I used to ride the Metro and then videotape when they would announce, Reagan National Airport.
	Yeah.
	And I would film and videotape it, and then I'd send it to him.
	Go ahead and be chafed.
	Yeah.
	Just wait until they rename Dulles to whatever they're gonna name it.
	What would it be?
	I don't know, I mean... Ruth Bader Ginsburg International.
	On Arlington, if you go to Arlington Cemetery now and you do the tram tour, they now always make sure to point out her grave.
	Oh, if you take the tram tour at Arlington, it is a woke fiesta.
	It was disgraceful.
	We did it, I can't remember when it was, but I was pissed by the end of it.
	That they mention constantly.
	Everything was slavery, everything was civil rights leaders.
	I'm like, dude, this is a military cemetery.
	If you don't talk about somebody and mention to me their race one more time, you're going to be in a grave.
	No.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo!
	It's Jim Hansen.
	It is Uncle Jimbo, Jim Hansen.
	And as a man of the people, we are going to talk to the people.
	So, I'm going to take a call right now.
	My man Anthony in New Jersey.
	What exit, brother?
	Exit 5 on the New Jersey Turnpike.
	Yeah!
	Isn't that how you tell where you're from in Jersey?
	Not really.
	You know, yes.
	Well, if I could tell you, well, you know what?
	I just got a little kickback for you.
	You keep talking about day.
	You know, they want to know what you're buying when you purchase an automatic or AR 15.
	And it seems to me with your conversation that you're They want to know everything about you, when all we simply want to know is if you're buying an AR-15, which there's no use for.
	In any state.
	Right.
	What if I want to shoot somebody with it?
	What if I want to shoot a criminal with it?
	It's exceptionally good at shooting.
	And if there's multiple criminals, like say I got five criminals and I want to put two rounds in each of them, I need at least 10 rounds.
	And I would prefer a rifle and maybe some good optics and maybe a chance at a magazine change.
	So I would have to 100% disagree with that because here's the thing.
	The Second Amendment, as interpreted twice now by the Supreme Court, says that the government is expecting citizens to have the right to own a weapon in common use and suitable for service in the militia.
	Now that may have been a musket in 1776, but if you look at the most commonly used weapon that is suitable for use in the militia, that's an AR-15 or some other variant.
	So they wanted that not because, oh maybe I want to go squirrel hunting or maybe I want to defend my house.
	The literal number one most important reason That the Second Amendment was put in the Constitution was just in case things got a little too oppressive.
	Maybe the government ran a gulag and started throwing people in jail.
	Maybe we had some bad Supreme Court justices from Hillary and they started, you know, revoking the First Amendment and other things and we had to overthrow the government.
	That's why it's in there.
	It's not in there for sport shooting, it's in there for self-defense, but it's also in there for self-defense of the republic as defended by we the people, members of the well-regulated, meaning well-trained, militia.
	Able-bodied citizens with a legal right to own any weapon that meets those criteria Hey Jim.
	I'm doing good.
	Hey, I heard you talking about Ronald Reagan.
	I have to 100% disagree with that.
	Next slide.
	Let's go to Bill from San Francisco.
	Hey, Jim.
	How are you doing, brother?
	I'm doing good.
	Hey, I heard you talking about Ronald Reagan.
	And I got to tell you, I was alive back then, and I voted for him.
	And we're fighting a much worse enemy today because it's not just the Democrats on the left.
	They're full-blown communists.
	But we're fighting the administrative state which is a hundred times bigger.
	87,000 more IRS agents just hired.
	The enemy is much more Much bigger, much greater than what it was when Reagan was fighting it.
	100%.
	And, you know, he always said, you know, the government was the enemy and we needed to make sure we never empowered it.
	You know, the only thing I can recall liking coming out of the mouth of Kevin McCarthy in recent history, and that may be a little unfair to him.
	He's going to probably be the speaker.
	We'll see.
	But he said that one of the first things they're going to do is defund those 87,000 IRS agents because I'm sorry, that is a travesty right there.
	You know, I mean, that's nothing but a way for the government to have a way to harass citizens and go ahead and stifle dissent by attacking their political opponents.
	So I couldn't agree more.
	We have a situation now where the permanent bureaucracy is actually a larger force than the elected political officials that we are supposed to be having respond to what we, the people, tell them to do.
	And that's something we're going to have to work on because it's a major problem and we are behind.
	Let's hear from Tim in Cali.
	Hi, good afternoon.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	I wanted to ask you, is this, is it a bill?
	Or anyway, the MCC, you know, the Merchant Categorization, has that passed or is it, you know, on the table?
	What is the status of I think right now it's not an act of the government.
	What it is, is it's the organizations that run the banking and credit card clearing systems.
	And there's probably collusion behind the scenes with that deep state we're just talking about, you know, who wants nothing more than to have their fingers in our pies.
	But what they're doing is they're trying to say, OK, we're going to create a new code for purchases at gun stores.
	And then we will track those and then we will report those and they're trying to figure out who they're going to report it to and how and what the triggers are.
	But triggers, I like that.
	I'm punning.
	But the bottom line is they don't need to be doing that at all.
	They should not be doing that.
	They do not have a right now.
	We can't stop the credit card companies if they want to do that.
	You know, that's something we have to use consumer pressure.
	But the second they start colluding with the government to go ahead and use that as a way to do a warrantless search.
	on our legal activities, then we've got a problem.
	And I think that's probably something worthy of being taken up by our new Republican House of Representatives and decide that whatever agencies that take any kind of federal money that we're thinking about getting involved in some kind of scheme like this, find yourself another way to play gun grabber.
	I'm not against trying to stop mass shootings from happening, but I'm 100% against using the Constitution to blind us and stop giving our rights the top billing that they deserve because we're going to pretend that a tragedy trumps the Constitution.
	It doesn't.
	We can have both.
	We can have tragedies and we can do whatever is legally and constitutionally permissible, but we cannot decide that just because something makes our hearts ache, we're going to give away the rights we need desperately If we're going to remain the greatest country that this planet has ever seen.
	So yeah, we'll keep an eye on them.
	I don't think Congress is taking action, but I think they need to be ready and defund anybody who thinks they're getting federal funds to do any of this garbage.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We will be back after the break and we'll keep taking some more calls.
	It's 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	Give us a call, and let's talk about how the government is driving us all crazy.
	I actually texted me with a fairly interesting question.
	I'm actually curious for your take on this, Jim.
	She says, is Elon Musk slowly becoming the George Soros of the right?
	God willing.
	If he did, I mean, he just, obviously he'd blow Soros out of the water in terms of total wealth, so we'd be solid, but... Because it's gonna take more than someone like Teal, unfortunately.
	Teal's a great guy, but he's just one guy.
	Twitter's more important than money.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I don't know.
	You got to start with Twitter or we can't be heard.
	But then you have to build the same kind of infrastructure that they have.
	You know, we've been talking about we need Organizing for America for America, instead of for the socialist crap hole they're trying to build with Organizing for America.
	Because that comes down to whether or not you think, like, the culture, you know, culture organizing versus running candidates.
	Like, obviously Source's big thing is funding AG candidates everywhere.
	Like, which is important, but it's only one aspect of the whole thing.
	No, we have, they have a farm team.
	system that takes people from their indoctrination, you know, through their academia, into their first interning jobs, into the administration, out of the administration, into a, you know, a 501 type organization, some kind of activist group.
	And they just keep doing it, you know, and they've got an ecosystem that supports that.
	And they've got all the journalism that's supported, you know, not by actual readership, but by money.
	And we gotta start competing against that.
	Well, that's one thing really slimy about the Biden student loan plan is that they said, oh, one thing you can do to work off your student loans is work for a non-profit.
	Well, if something is pro-illegal alien, that's a non-profit now.
	But they're good at that, and we need to be too.
	It's like the idea, well, we shouldn't vote harvest because it's a bad thing.
	No, we should absolutely vote harvest the hell out of the votes.
	Ballots for all my friends.
	You know, I don't care.
	Dead, alive, I don't care.
	And I agree with, again, Colonel K, you know, when he tweeted that poll of, like, University of Arizona students, like, 96% Katie Hobbs, 4% Lake.
	He's like, when is the GOP finally going to understand that universities are our enemies?
	Yeah, but you know what?
	That number is so much bigger than 96%.
	It's the turnout, too, that they got because of that.
	There's so many more people voted to it.
	You got 96% of a bigger number.
	Yeah.
	We got our work cut out for us.
	We'll take them down.
	God willing.
	30 seconds.
	Again, this is the final segment of this hour.
	Thank you.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	All right.
	Well, we're still getting some great calls, so I want to keep this rolling.
	Let's take David from California.
	Yes, sir.
	Hi.
	Howdy.
	What you got, brother?
	Yeah, I was gonna say, with all that mentioned, I don't know if I got to the program too late or not.
	What about all this ammunition that they have ordered and all the guns and stuff that they got for fighting people who are not paying their taxes?
	I guess that's what that is for, right?
	Yeah, you gotta wonder.
	You know, one of the lowlights of my career in the military was I helped train the IRS SWAT team.
	That was Special Forces, right?
	We train a lot of people.
	We train our allies.
	We train, you know, all kinds of people.
	But the IRS has a SWAT team.
	And I'm sorry, I find that fundamentally a bad idea.
	So I think we need to keep an eye on the over militarization of all of our federal agencies and its use against the citizens because they're way over the line.
	Let's take Matt from Columbus.
	Hello?
	Hey, Matt.
	Hey.
	I was just thinking, like, the Second Amendment is a right granted by the Constitution, and that's something that is discriminated against by the credit card companies, isn't it?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And I think I would even go a step farther.
	I would say the Second Amendment codifies a right granted by God for people to have self-defense.
	You can defend yourself with anything reasonable.
	And in this case, when we formed this constitutional republic, we wanted to make sure that it would always be the people supreme granting certain powers to the government.
	So, I think with that in mind, when a credit card company or anyone else wants to say, we're going to use private corporate power to infringe on that right, then you've got a situation where governmental intervention may be necessary.
	I am a small government guy.
	I am a conservative.
	I don't want the government doing anything more than it absolutely has to.
	You step over the line, you start doing things like using your monopoly power to shut down my speech or using your banking systems to stop credit cards from being processed for gun companies, which they've done.
	Those are places.
	And if you want to spy on what I'm buying, Because you're trying to stop a school shooting.
	Okay, find another way.
	That's not how we're going to do that because that is a violation of not just the second but the fourth amendment against unwarranted or warrantless search and seizure.
	So yeah, let's keep an eye on these guys.
	I'm not going to let the deep state permanent bureaucracy run my life.
	Neither are you, because we're not that kind of people.
	We are America first.
	We are the free living, don't tread on me, join or die type people.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We're going to get some news, get everybody all informed.
	And then it's going to be me and the man, Colonel K, Colonel Kurt Schlichter, after the break.
	The End
	He's Skype one.
	Oh yeah, and the mics are on now, Jim.
	Hey players, you got me?
	Yes, we have you now.
	Can you hear us, Kurt?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I can hear you.
	And the mics are on on Rumble now.
	We got two minutes left to go.
	And, uh... Yeah, this is gonna be cool.
	This is gonna be fun.
	Oh, it's gonna be exceptional.
	Oh, and... Uh, yeah, the poll's just about done, Jim, and the result is what we expected it to be.
	Okey-doke.
	Yep.
	Two minutes.
	So, Kurt...
	Looking good.
	What up?
	How you doing?
	I am well.
	How about yourself, man?
	Did you like the column?
	I love the fact that you got Robbie now creating the style.
	He should be like a style critic for you.
	Yeah, dude, it was mean.
	I know.
	You've been soft recently.
	I think, I don't know...
	What?!
	I've been worried about you.
	I like the case against DeSantis column.
	I still need to read that.
	Yeah, it was, uh... Yeah, I really took him to task.
	The first two paragraphs of the 12 you did.
	That was about it.
	I think, secretly, Kurt's got a crush on him.
	Really?
	It's a little bromance.
	Ah, come on.
	Anybody who kicked Disney in the nads?
	That was great.
	That was the best thing he's done.
	And he won!
	I still can't believe he won that battle.
	Right?
	That was impressive.
	Yeah.
	What do you want to talk about, man?
	You got anything front of mind?
	I mean, there's a- My article!
	Alright, let's do that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Alright.
	The article.
	Forty seconds.
	I'm still billing as we go.
	Alright, good, good, good.
	Cause we gotta sell some books, man.
	Kurt's gotta buy a helicopter.
	I gotta buy a helicopter.
	Another conservative client.
	There we got a whole little subgenre of clients who are conservative.
	It's nice.
	Never really expected that to happen, but it just sort of did.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	And I'm happy to be here.
	And we've got bumper music.
	We've got Two Tribes Go to War.
	That's pretty timely, considering our guest is Colonel Kurt Schlichter, the West Coast warlord to my East Coast warlord, and the author of the Kelly Turnbull series, of which Inferno is the latest.
	You don't have to pull the book out.
	We got the cover up, brother.
	We believe you have a couple copies.
	Everyone else should have copies, too, because they're great books.
	They're fun.
	He shoots everybody.
	You gotta love a main character who shoots everybody.
	I know.
	Some people are like, you should get your characters without problems by thinking.
	It's like, no.
	It's so much easier to shoot people.
	Yes.
	I mean, seriously, you can talk to them and maybe you convince them and then they get their own ideas or you shoot them and you move on.
	Exactly, that's the essence of fiction.
	And then pour encourager l'autre, right?
	It encourages the others to act the way you want them to.
	Shoot an admiral or two, which of course is always me.
	I think we gotta chuck them off the... we gotta walk the plank.
	That's what we need.
	You'll note I never tried to become a flag officer.
	Yeah, that was probably smart.
	If I hadn't done conservatism, this is my 35th anniversary of going off to basic training today.
	Congratulations!
	The country thanks you.
	A grateful nation thanks you for your service.
	I would probably be put out to pasture as a three-star.
	I don't know if I could get to a three-star.
	You'd have angered someone, I think, along the way and caused a problem.
	Yeah, well, it was this whole conservative thing.
	Before the conservative thing, I was a superstar.
	Hey, here's a battalion.
	Hey, here's the War College.
	Well, I'm going to write about conservative stuff.
	Yeah.
	And then they started getting woke.
	All right.
	Well, now let's talk about, you had a, you had a great column today that we were enjoying in one of our back channel chats with the kids that was about all the useless political tools who are going to grift for a year or two by running a campaign because they can't get real jobs.
	And I just think this was a beautiful thing to point out before we get too far into it so we can embarrass them early.
	Look, there's two candidates.
	There's President Trump and Ron DeSantis.
	There are some guys who could be legitimate in another year.
	You're talking to your Tim Ryan or Tim Scott or Mike Pompeo or whatever, and I don't think they have a huge chance, but I don't burst into laughter.
	Asa Hutchinson?
	He sounds like a grizzled prospector.
	And he should probably stick to moonshining or something like that.
	He could be that guy too, right?
	Good old Mountain Dew.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Is it just as simple as that?
	Is it because you can raise money and pay yourself and pay your friends and run your mouth and build your brand and maybe sell a few books and not have to work?
	They know they can't win, but that's what they're doing.
	I hope they know they can't win, because if they do think they can't win, they're troubled, troubled people.
	Right.
	I mean, who's the guy?
	I mean, does Chris Sununu sit down and go, well, I've added it up, and why, yes, I can sweep Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania with the Sununu power.
	Who's telling you this?
	Did you hit your head?
	You know, that's just it, though.
	The thing about political tools is they always have that little coterie of losers around them who are like, oh, man, you could win.
	You could win.
	Chris Rock used to do a thing where he was talking when Jesse Jackson ran for mayor of Chicago.
	He's like, you could win, Jesse.
	You could beat Hale Washington.
	You know, there's somebody telling these people that they may be that dumb, but I think it's closer to the fact that, you know, you you get a TV contract out of it.
	You get your other things out of it and you get to get on the debate stage.
	You know, there's a lot of just narcissism.
	Well, the grift is super heavy with them.
	And I just, you know, I'm just done with hacks.
	And if you read the column, which you should, I'm very mean to people like Christy Noem and.
	Why were you mean to Kristi Noem?
	I like Kristi Noem.
	I met Kristi Noem.
	I like her.
	I think she should be our VP.
	No.
	Why not?
	No!
	I didn't read the column.
	You suck!
	I do suck.
	You should have read the column.
	Why would I have you on?
	I don't have to read the column.
	I have you.
	You got me.
	Look, Kristi Noem is a giant cliche factory who does whatever the Chamber of Commerce says, you know?
	What's wrong with that?
	And God, you know, I just can't.
	I can't.
	And I won't.
	I demand more.
	I want quality.
	I want someone who can articulate an idea, who can get up on a stage and say something that's not like 20 minutes of regurgitated pap.
	No, that's fair.
	We can want that.
	The problem is, politicians are by and large people who are simply repackaged, you know, marketing for their donors.
	And occasionally we get a Trump, you know, who was, he was his own machine.
	I feel a special role in the conservative world.
	I'm the guy who doesn't give a damn.
	And I'm just mean.
	I want to ask you, is there anybody else you want to dump on?
	Because, I mean, there was some good dumping.
	I read the excerpts.
	Robbie Starbuck was giving the excerpts of your greatest hits on this column is why I didn't read it.
	I know, because it's amazing.
	Look, I feel a special role in the conservative world.
	I'm the guy who doesn't give a damn.
	That's true.
	And I'm just mean.
	And I'm mean for a purpose because I want to force these people off the stage so they don't screw up 20-20-4.
	2024 needs to be about the Republicans' ideas for success.
	Not about, you know, Chris Sununu getting some more MSNBC hits.
	Alright, hold on.
	Since I have the comments from Robbie in my chat here, I can read them.
	This is from Kurt's Column.
	You may wonder why sexy bohunk Larry Hogan feels the need to throw his fat into the ring, or why Chris Christie feels he must literally weigh in, or what deep-seated psychotic urges compel Liz Cheney to bark on another epic fail, or why any of these other total losers want to run.
	That's hashtag caring.
	That's it.
	That's what you bring.
	That's your brand, brother.
	Yes.
	I'm particularly mean to Liz Cheney.
	She is a horrible person.
	And I mean, you couldn't possibly be as mean to her as she deserves.
	No, it's impossible.
	And I'm, God, if I hear a person who, you know, telling me I should put a country above party when she's never served a day in uniform, nor any Cheney that I'm aware of.
	I may projectile vomit.
	They are awful good.
	I'm not like the chicken hawk guy, but lady, if you want to step to me about patriotism, you better have a DD-214 or I'm gonna smack ya.
	Figuratively.
	And I'm prone to fighting against the chicken hawk argument that you have to serve to do that, but between her and her dad, they, I mean, big dick chain but you do have to serve if you want to tell me i'm not a patriot there you go or pay the price and then you get the uh you get the abuse in the column that she deserves as opposed to the horse whipping she'd get if she actually came at us so i think that's fair um yeah she's she's gonna do it too
	you think she's gonna run and think she's gonna peel people off That very narrow, I hate Republican, Republican lane.
	That was like Evan McMuffin's lane, right?
	Last time around was he was the, I hate Trump so much and I kind of hate America, but at least McMuffin deployed overseas.
	And the best thing about him, and I'm sure you saw the picture, under the two big Saddam swords in Baghdad, he posed.
	with his battle rattle on and a rifle and a vest and magazine stuffed and everything over his purple dress shirt.
	And I'm sorry, dude, you just said everything I need to know about you.
	Dude, can I borrow your gear?
	Because I need to take a hero picture because I might someday run for president and I need something that makes me look like a warrior.
	Well, you and I both worked with people from some of those organizations overseas.
	And let's just call me distinctly unimpressed.
	Distinctly.
	Disgustingly unimpressed, because I'm more often than not, every once in a while, we ran into somebody who knew what they were doing.
	But more often than not, they were the McMuffins.
	Yeah, the McMuffins of the world dominated that as well.
	So all right, so is that, are we going to have all these Muppets on the debate stage for a while in the primary?
	Look, we have to make sure that we don't have any kamikaze candidates.
	And the Republican National Committee, which I hope is not led by Rona McDaniel, because I think somebody's got to be fired for failing, and I think it's got to be her.
	Whoever's in charge of the RNC needs to say no.
	We're going to have, you must be this tall to ride this ride.
	Okay?
	So Kinziger's out.
	15% support.
	You must be this tall to ride on the debate stage.
	Definitely Trump should be on.
	DeSantis, they got the numbers.
	You know, Pompeo and the other ones.
	If Nikki Haley manages to get it, I think she should be up there.
	She's not my favorite, obviously, but I think she's, you know, within the range of pseudo-serious.
	Although, I'd like to see her and Christy Noem fight it out in the cliche octagon.
	Nice.
	To see who's more hack.
	Yeah, we could do that.
	You know, I've never looked at her book covers, but there's a 100% chance there's a flag on it.
	I guarantee.
	Alright, well hey, we are talking with Kurt Schlichter, author of Inferno and the rest of the Kelly Turnbull series, which, great Christmas presents.
	I'm pretty sure you can get Kurt to sign them or something else.
	You can stick around after the break because I want to talk some more stuff if you've got time.
	All right, we will be back after the break with Colonel Kaye.
	We're going to fix the Republican Party and America and maybe even planet Earth.
	Never go.
	We're back.
	We're back on rumble.
	Yeah, this is where the fun happens.
	Okay, this is where it gets edgy.
	Harmeet, have you seen this election review they're doing?
	Good!
	The RNC is commissioning an election review.
	I want to jump in with this.
	I just want to give you a heads up.
	And it's coming out of the RNC.
	And now, Rona's not elected yet, but she's looking pretty good.
	She's in a tough place.
	But Harmeet running this review, Blake Masters is on it.
	I don't think that the people who might be held accountable, and if you lost, you're potentially accountable.
	I like Blake.
	I actually spoke for him at a fundraiser, and I'm sorry he lost, but we need to be unsentimental.
	If you're a losing candidate, you don't need to be part of the A corpse doesn't get to autopsy, it's selling.
	Nice, I like that.
	They got, uh, whatever, there's a barber on there, like a son or a nephew of Barber.
	That's G-O-P-E.
	Oh, Haley Barber?
	No, it's not him.
	No, it's his nephew.
	He's a total scumbag.
	Yeah, I mean, he's Ace of Hutchinson realm of people with funny names should not be invited to these parties anymore.
	Hutchinson's just salty as can be.
	I agree.
	Look, I don't think there's anybody better than her and me.
	No, I know.
	She's the one.
	And she is based.
	She is actually under consideration.
	She's one of the... It's her and Zeldin are the main competitors for the job.
	She keeps trying to turn... I know people are asking her.
	I would be happy with either.
	I know.
	She's being asked and... But it's... You know how it goes.
	It's politics.
	It's politics.
	We can try and influence that.
	Politics.
	Yeah, man.
	Got a K sound.
	So when's our next fiesta?
	When's our next get-together?
	I'm coming to Washington for CPAC.
	First week of March.
	First week of March.
	That's going to be great.
	There's the RNC.
	Yeah, the RNC winter meeting is end of January or early February.
	I'm not invited.
	Well, of course you're not invited, but we may have a shadow GOP party for that.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, we're.
	I got a trial going on in there, but maybe I can just win it.
	There you go.
	Crush them early.
	Force them to their knees.
	Hear the lamentations of the women.
	Mm hmm.
	I love lamentations.
	All right.
	What else we need to talk about?
	I love to lamentate.
	Yeah, this is a nine minute segment.
	OK.
	Wow.
	We could stretch out.
	That's actually a that's actually 36 bulwark wedding nights.
	There it is.
	It's not a Schlichter segment, unless... A lot of people aren't aware.
	We should crap all over the Lincoln Project's new thing, too.
	The Resolute Square.
	Have you seen it?
	What the hell is that?
	Oh, dude!
	What's his name?
	It's called Anti-MAGA Media.
	That's what they say.
	All the Anti-MAGA... Rick Wilson is begging for money for their new project, which is media to save democracy from the undemocratic... You wanna hear something controversial?
	I've always gotten along with Rick Wilson, and we've never attacked each other.
	Wow.
	He has a challenge to fight, IRL.
	He's never attacked me directly.
	Interesting.
	- I'll tell you, it's like the Turks and the Greeks over Cyprus. - Welcome back to America it's like the Turks and the Greeks over Cyprus. - First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Hey folks, welcome back.
	We are going to do some more with my good buddy Kurt Schlichter, Senior Columnist for Town Hall, whose column I read during the break.
	No, I didn't.
	I don't have to read it.
	You tell me, Bob.
	I feel bad about that.
	Dude, you actually hung your head a little bit, like I disappointed you.
	That's fair.
	But I have read Inferno.
	I was sadder than a bulwark bride on her wedding night.
	There it is!
	The obligatory bulwark wedding reference.
	But I have read Inferno because I got a mention in it and you sent me an early copy and it was awesome and lots of people got shot.
	So if you don't own enough Kelly Turnbull books or all of them or have them to give to friends, buy them because Kurt's going to spend the money on an attack helicopter and he and I are going to ride around and shoot seals off of, not the Navy seal type.
	We might, we might strafe them a little bit.
	We don't shoot them, but actual seal seals and then we'll eat the meat.
	But hey, I want to, I don't know where that went.
	I want to talk about the GOP because we heard this week that they're doing kind of an election post-mortem.
	And since it's coming from inside the GOP, you know, the RNC, I would be concerned that they're just going to be lip-sticking the pig heavily, you know, and telling us, oh, look how beautiful the pig is this time around.
	It'll win!
	You know, and Rona McDaniel, she's the one who can do it.
	But I heard something that gave me a little hope.
	Harmeet Dhillon is going to run the review.
	And they added Blake Masters, who is a guy who at least shares our base values, and I know you're not sure he's... He's a based guy!
	Yeah, but I know you're not sure that you can have that big an effect from the losing side.
	Well, like we said in the amazing Rumble Chat, I don't see how a corpse can autopsy himself.
	I mean, look, he didn't win.
	Right.
	And we're trying to figure out why we didn't win, and I think he might be able to add some input, but I want—the whole purpose of this action is to figure out not to screw up again, because we did screw up.
	Our expectations were up here.
	Our performance was down here.
	Again, full work wedding night.
	And it was fair to have expectations that high because it was almost a perfect storm of events for us.
	You know, we're coming off an election.
	Nobody voted for Joe Biden.
	They voted against Donald Trump, however many actually did.
	And Joe Biden drove the country, like Thelma and Louise, right off the cliff.
	And so you had inflation, you had COVID lockdowns, you had everything bad that could happen happened.
	And we couldn't manage to seal the Senate.
	And we barely scooted by in the house.
	We got a little bit of it done, but we didn't run up the score.
	And we do need to know why.
	And I think there are lots of reasons.
	I think we need to look at voter ballot gathering versus influence operations.
	I think that mindset needs to change in certain venues.
	I think we need to look at the effect of Donald Trump.
	That's an issue.
	I think we need to look at the effect of a lot of candidates.
	I think we need to look at the effect of pundits.
	You know, I got wrong.
	I thought it was going to be a red wave.
	Why did I get wrong?
	I need to do better.
	Pollsters need to look at their stuff.
	Everybody needs to look at their stuff, and we need to be harsh and unrelenting, like an AAR following an exercise, which you and I did in the military.
	Those are brutal.
	I think it's fair to say that we missed the calls of everyone who thought it was going to be better.
	But that's not why voters didn't come out.
	Voters didn't come out because we said we're going to win.
	I voted as a victory lap.
	Can we raise expectations too high and keep people from coming out?
	I don't know the answer.
	I mean, that's a plausible possibility.
	How do we do with independence?
	Do we turn off independence by being smug?
	I don't know what the answer is and that's what we got to find out because it's really important that we win in 2024 so we need to do the things consistent with winning which means figure out what not to do.
	OK, well, let's talk about the 800-pound gorilla and the mid-sized male who's trying to unseat him, Trump and DeSantis.
	Now, one of the things that I heard a couple times this week that bugs me every time they say it is that DeSantis Doesn't have Trump's baggage, and that's why he's good, but they'll go ahead and as soon as he's running and as soon as he's in the lead, they'll start making up stuff and they'll start smearing him.
	And that makes him just as dangerous as Trump to driving voters away.
	And I don't buy that because the difference is Trump's got a track record and people have a decision already made about him.
	You know, they know, love him or hate him, no one's going to change their mind about Trump.
	So with DeSantis, you have to create that, and you're not going to be as successful when Trump's already there.
	So I don't think that's a good reason to not have DeSantis be a viable candidate.
	No, I think the argument that you're referring to is essentially, might as well do Trump because they're going to be mean to everybody.
	Right.
	Oh, OK.
	What happens when Trump doesn't run anymore?
	Do we stop?
	And there's other upsides.
	That's part of the battlefield.
	I don't think that's not a good argument.
	Look, Trump does have certain baggage.
	Trump also has certain positive attributes.
	He has a fanatically loyal following.
	He has a good record, especially in light, generally good, in light of the forces he was facing.
	I mean, no one is No one was more successful with more stuff being thrown at him.
	But that being said, he's got a ceiling.
	There's just a huge number of people who will never vote for him, and he needs to give us a plan where he wins Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
	Now, he did in 2016, but you know what?
	That was eight years ago, or will be by the time of the election.
	Is that still a thing?
	And he had Hillary.
	I need a primary.
	Maybe what we need then is if Trump's going to be the guy, we need to make sure Hillary is the candidate, because she was just enough of a, you know, I mean, enough people hate her.
	I've been hating Hillary since before it was cool, you know, and there are plenty of people there.
	I am second to none in my contempt for that shrill herodon.
	Nice.
	You like that?
	That was a good one.
	Look, he's going to be running against Biden.
	I don't see Biden getting pushed out of the way.
	I thought Biden was, but after this election, now Biden's got delusions of mediocrity.
	He thinks this was a big win for him.
	He doesn't understand what I believe we're going to find, which is this was the Republicans losing.
	Yeah, I think that's fair.
	And the thing is, I mean, I'm not sure he's going to be up to it.
	You know, we got a couple years and he's not running on full speed.
	Hasn't been for a couple years, but... Oh, certainly he could pull out.
	I just don't think there's any way he's going to pull out unless something dramatically changes.
	You know, maybe he gets an invisible friend.
	His invisible friend would be a young girl with fantastic smelling hair, wouldn't it?
	That treachery is no good.
	What is it with these Never Trump guys and the young'uns?
	You know, it's a perverted thing.
	Well, dude, we're running low and I want to pimp the book one more time.
	Do you want to sell your nonfiction book?
	Sure!
	Go get We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
	It's great.
	Also get your Get Base.
	We got your picture up.
	We'll get my picture up next segment.
	But yeah, this is Kurt Schlichter.
	We'll Be Back was The Fall and Rise of America and that's a great book, too.
	That's my finger, by the way.
	He's pointing at you and he smells something.
	It's a great picture, but I think either that or the Kelly Turnbull series.
	Get some Schlichter books.
	They are all outstanding, as is Kurt's devastating columnary at Town Hall.
	Always a pleasure, brother.
	All right.
	Thanks, man.
	Rock and roll.
	Right on.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	I am sitting in for Seb Gorka, and we've got a pretty lively show.
	I think we might talk to a few more of the people.
	So if you want to, if you got something you want to say, give me a call at 833-33-GORKA.
	833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
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	Back after the break.
	Single-handedly brought back the codpiece.
	There I am.
	Back.
	I want a codpiece, man.
	I need one.
	Just for when Word Up comes on.
	You remember that?
	Remember that video?
	He had that big red codpiece?
	Yeah.
	And he had the kid and play hair thing going on?
	I love the kid in play.
	I wonder what happened to them.
	Probably cocaine.
	Now they're like old and gray.
	All right, well, appreciate it, man.
	Speaking thereof.
	Yeah, that's us.
	Oh, we're so sad.
	Dude, look, I have so got to get a haircut.
	This is like, look at this.
	Come on, man.
	I know.
	I gotta get a hat.
	We're going to an event after this, so I couldn't wear my usual driver's cap and look like a thug in an English gang.
	I look like somebody who has etchings back at his condo.
	You do drink wine, man.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I'm cut, man.
	Oh, you're done?
	I'm doing the thing with CPAC as the goal.
	I want to get back to fight weight and I'm lifting all the way.
	You're lifting, not drinking wine?
	Oh, I've been lifting for a couple of years, man.
	I'm increasing dramatically.
	Yeah, I'm butch.
	You got a set of plum smugglers like Reboy you can put on for CPAC?
	That would be the funnest of all time.
	We don't need that.
	By the way, I had to go to the dermatologist today.
	That's always a pleasure.
	No, because you live in California?
	No.
	What's this?
	No, I don't like it.
	That's just nothing.
	Nobody found nothing.
	Good.
	That's the way it should be.
	Because if they find something, that's just more work for them, dude.
	- Oh, yeah, we're just gonna cut that off. - All right, well, I will-- - I need that stuff in my lifestyle.
	I will let you know if the late January thing turns into a thing, because it could just be a scheming session.
	But we've got some interest.
	Maybe I can jam out there, in and out.
	Much like.
	If not, let's plan whatever the pre-CPAC thing is.
	That's a definite.
	So we may... I don't think it... I don't think we can count on everybody being in Wednesday, so we may go for Thursday night.
	All right.
	Let's see what's up.
	All right, brother.
	Get our boys out there and make a thang.
	It'll be a thang.
	All right, man.
	Sue somebody.
	Adios.
	Bye-bye.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Yes it is.
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	All right, I want to follow up to the conversation I was having with Kurt. - Sure.
	We've got a problem.
	Our political machine sucks.
	And that's the politest word I could use for it.
	It's not good.
	We should have won much more than we did, and we didn't do the things that a winning team does, and no one's been held accountable.
	Unless something changes, and it could, but unless something changes, we're going to have Kevin McCarthy running the House, Mitch McConnell running the Senate, and Rona McDaniel running the RNC.
	That's the same three people who failed us this election cycle, the one before, and probably one or two before that for all of them.
	We're not doing anything different.
	And I'm sorry, that's the definition of insanity.
	Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome.
	So let's not be crazy.
	Why don't we change things up?
	And there's a lot we can do.
	But the first thing we have to do is figure out that just looking at the American people and not having a compelling message is not good enough.
	Now, it's easy to say the system's against us.
	Arizona was a horrible example of how to run an election.
	But that's not the only reason we lost there.
	We need to go ahead and push better ideas through a better mechanism.
	And that's the only way we're going to engage the American people.
	So I think right now, all of us need to look at everyone involved with our political process, starting with every voter, Who's listening now and everyone you can get to vote.
	We're going to have to start from the very most basic thing.
	And what do you say when you tell someone why they should vote for a Republican candidate?
	If you don't have a compelling message that's more than the Democrats suck worse.
	Then we have failed.
	And that's where we're at.
	And for far too many of us, you know, it's easy to say, oh, well, inflation, you know, and, oh, all the other horrible things, the gas prices and everything, Biden's energy policy, almost getting us in World War III, you know, all the things he's doing.
	Those are great.
	But those are why Biden sucks, why the Democrats suck.
	They're not why are Republicans a good idea.
	And I think one thing we need to do is find some messaging and candidates capable of bringing it to the people that actually makes them look at us as the solution, not just a less bad alternative.
	And I think that's what we got on our team this time.
	And it's OK to say, OK, if we put Trump on the ticket, he can run on his record because things were better.
	And anybody who says they weren't is lying.
	But that's not going to cut it either, because as Kurt mentioned, Trump's got a built-in ceiling.
	So if we're going to run with him, we have to have a message of why it's going to be better this time.
	And I think that's something I have not heard well articulated, nor do I have faith that our political machine is functioning any better than, you know, a 1974 Ford Pinto.
	And last time I checked, those blow up when you crash into them.
	Anyhow, we're going to be back after the break.
	I now owe the Rumble and Twitter rant, and it's going to be on Kanye's crash and burn.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We'll be back after the break with America First.
	We'll be back after the break.
	We'll be back after the break.
	All right.
	Oof.
	Oof.
	Sorry, Jim.
	My day is ruined.
	What happened?
	They just revealed the first official trailer for Indiana Jones 5.
	I somehow missed that.
	Is it awful?
	Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.
	It involves Nazis and time travel.
	Didn't they already do that?
	I mean, it wasn't time travel, but Nazis?
	That's the best they could do?
	The whole idea is like, oh, these are Nazis who are Operation Paperclipped into NASA.
	So that's the excuse for it still being Nazis instead of Russians again.
	That's just lazy.
	And he's like 80.
	How's he gonna?
	Oh, it's Hitler?
	No, no, no, no.
	I mean, Indy is like 80 years old.
	But yeah, but he can be Sean Connery now.
	Do they have somebody to play at least an interesting lead?
	He needs Ryan Reynolds or somebody like that to be funny with him like he used to, you know?
	He's mildly entertaining.
	They're bringing Sala back with John Rhys-Davies playing him again, so that's kind of cool.
	Yeah, okay.
	You say it's about Nazis?
	It's about Nazis, like Operation Paperclip Nazis.
	Black Nazis, yeah.
	I'm actually a lot more excited about Cocaine Bear to be perfectly fair.
	I watched the trailer for that.
	The fact that that was a true story is almost amazing.
	I know they've embellished it, but... Wait, Cocaine Bear?
	That's a thing?
	I thought it was like one of those things where people are just making something up, but no, there's literally a movie about cocaine that fell out of a plane in Tennessee and a bear ate it and went crazy.
	And it's awesome.
	Oh, Ray Liotta's in it?
	Yeah, it was his last one.
	And before he's only in it for like five minutes and he's like the first victim or something like that.
	It doesn't matter.
	Oh god, I can't believe he's gone, man.
	Cocaine bear.
	That's like the first time since Bill Paxton, where a celebrity dies, and I'm like, God, that was way too soon, man.
	That was way too soon.
	Yeah.
	It was fun.
	One of the best movie narrations in history, I think.
	What, Goodfellas?
	Oh, yeah.
	Everything was for the taking, and now it's all over.
	God, such a legend.
	In, out, hello, goodbye.
	All right, hey, have my book cover ready, because I'm going to pimp it after I'm done pimping Patriot Mobile.
	Book cover ready for pimping.
	One minute.
	I I mean, that's actually, I guess that's only the second worst trailer reveal I've seen, the first worst most recently being the Mario movie official trailer.
	That looked a little sad.
	They just got A-listers because they're famous.
	Like that woman with the eyes that are way too far apart to play Peach.
	She's in everything right now, so we gotta get her.
	Woman with eyes that are too far apart.
	That's all that she's known for, man, is she has alien-like eyes.
	You can land a plane between them.
	It's like a Roars arc test, right?
	Half of the people think she's hot, and the other half are like, dude, she looks like an alien.
	What's her name?
	Anya Taylor-Joy.
	I don't know.
	All right, I'll look her up later.
	All right, I'll look her I'll look her up later.
	America first with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
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	Hey, folks, glad to be here.
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	Okay, so when I guest host, we do a rumble chat suggestions for a rant in this segment, and then we do a Twitter poll, and the winning topic was Kanye, who today, after having dinner at Mar-a-Lago and causing a little trouble for President Trump with Idiot Nick Fuentes and Milo along with him.
	Then went on Tim Pool's show and managed to last 30 minutes or so before he walked off because Tim wouldn't agree with him that it's the Jews who are behind everything.
	Well, he found a more willing audience with Alex Jones and Infowars, but he couldn't just take that.
	Kanye had to go full bat guano, and he literally put on a gimp mask during the show.
	So he's sitting on the show live with Alex Jones, ranting about how the Jews are behind everything bad that's happened to him and the world while wearing a gimp mask.
	Now, I don't feel sorry for him.
	He's a guy who was elevated because he had the ability to create something vaguely resembling music, often using other people's music repurposed, and got paid a ton of money to do it.
	He built a massive brand.
	He did some amazing things to take himself to the top of the celebrity racket.
	The problem with the celebrity racket is it's just a popularity contest.
	It's not based on anything.
	It's not like they say, Oh, well, you are a very skillful and intelligent person who's creating good things for the planet.
	And we're going to have you pay billions of dollars for this.
	It's not how it works.
	Otherwise we wouldn't have people like his ex Kim Kardashian and the rest of those skanks Racking up billions of dollars for ridiculous things they do.
	We don't.
	Celebrity is garbage.
	That's the problem with our culture right now is we treat these people like they have something important to say.
	They most assuredly do not.
	And Kanye is giving a master class on the truth of that right now as he tries to find every venue he can to show his Anti-Semitic, racist, stupid ideas and basically embarrass himself.
	You know, Eric here, one of the staff was saying he thinks that potentially Kanye is a danger to himself and he's trying, he's doing all this trying to get his ex-wife back.
	You know, and if that's the case, hopefully he's got someone who's not just a pure grifter, a parasite attached to his carcass who can tell him that.
	But I'm not, I'm not real sure he does.
	You know, people with that much money have had so many people telling them, you're the greatest for so long that I'm not convinced there's anybody who's going to pull him back off the ledge.
	So I, I don't wish bad on him at all, but it won't surprise me if Kanye is not around for all that much longer.
	And I do.
	I can, as a human, I can hope that he changes, but I think our cult of celebrity is damaging to the celebrities, it's damaging to our culture, it's damaging to our country.
	There is no reason just because someone is entertaining to treat them like they're anything more, okay?
	They're essentially the court jesters of our Caligula-like enterprise that is, you know, masquerading as the United States these days.
	We can do better than this.
	So let's try to figure out that maybe Kanye is an object lesson in why the cult of celebrity is a bad way to run influencing our children and our country and the entire way we look at what is good, bad, or indifferent.
	Um, he's bad.
	He is a nutcase and right now I just hope that somehow they can shunt him off to a sidetrack somewhere before he does something stupid on live TV.
	Stupid-er on live TV.
	So, there we go.
	That's the Freeform rant.
	As requested by the audience.
	We got one more segment left, and if anybody's got any questions, I will take at least one more caller if we can.
	Next segment, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	This is Jim Hanson.
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	This is Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First.
	Industrial-ish.
	That's all.
	One of my friends said this, I think, well, that realistically, we should stop recruiting celebrities to run for office and recruit just more TV personalities.
	You know, like Carrie Lakes, like, you know, better, Dr. Oz's, I guess, you know, the guy who ran for governor in New Mexico, who was pretty solid.
	Well, if one thing, they'll at least be capable of making coherent points.
	If they're given, you know, they may be able to do it themselves, but at least be able to articulate them.
	That's why I love, I wish Matthew McConaughey had run for governor.
	Kerry Lake does a great job presenting.
	That's why I love, I wish Matthew McConaughey had run for governor.
	I would have loved to see that disaster.
	Oh, my God.
	Because I like him as an actor, but there's no way he's coherent on policy or anything like that.
	It would've been fun.
	It would've been great.
	He would've won as a Dem.
	He would've taken Dem votes.
	Movie actors would be the wrong ones.
	Because they take themselves too seriously and they do long form stuff.
	It has to be somebody who's in TV news style.
	Where you've got 45 seconds.
	Meteorologists, newscasters.
	What can you give me in 45 seconds?
	And that's what you're judged on.
	Exactly.
	Minute 45 to go.
	Jeff always sounds so mean to call it.
	America First, screw you!
	What the hell are you calling me for?
	Jim's the one who put that stupid number up.
	Why don't you call him?
	Because you were mean to him.
	This audience is probably sensitive.
	They've got to be ready to go.
	If you can't go with me, you're not going to be able to ready to go.
	That's true.
	They'll ramble around for five minutes telling me, oh, Jim, thank you today.
	Let's go to so-and-so in California.
	Long pause.
	Hello?
	Oh, are you talking to me now?
	It's like, how do you not hear that radio click?
	You know, when you call in?
	When they put you on the phone, there's a click.
	They say your name.
	Well, not everybody's done this before.
	First time caller.
	Long time listener.
	First time caller.
	Oh, yeah.
	30 seconds.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	I'm glad to be back.
	Last segment, this has been a fun show, a little lively, a lot going on.
	But I want to get to one or two more callers if we can.
	So let's jump to Craig in Lancaster, PA.
	What's up?
	Yeah, hey, long time listener, first time caller.
	Are you listening to the Rumble Chat?
	Yeah, I was listening to the Rumble Chat.
	Good on you.
	Actually called one time before.
	So, but, um, yeah, I'm here in Pennsylvania and I just want to caution everybody about, you know, listening to a GOP autopsy on the election because, um, at least here in Pennsylvania, I am convinced that there was some GOP sabotage that went in, at least in the Mastriano campaign, um, where they basically starved him out.
	And I wonder, you know, if there, if there's other, um, Trump Yeah, no, that's a fair point because they definitely did it to your guy there in PA and they didn't like him, you know, and he was a wild man and they don't want that, you know, they don't want more Trump-like characters in power.
	They starved out Blake Masters, you know, sent money up to Lisa Murkowski to make sure Mitch McConnell maintained control.
	So I think that's a fair point and I don't trust The RNC.
	I think they are a broken machine run by the same collection of political tools for far too long and not responsive to the current electorate that we have being, in large part, the listeners of this radio show.
	So I think we need to give them very little slack.
	And I'm with you on that.
	Let's see if we can get one more.
	Thanks, brother.
	How about Ty from San Antonio?
	Hey, Jim, thanks for taking my call.
	I want to get your opinion on this dinner or this lunch that Trump had with Kanye and this Nick Fuentes kid.
	It seems to me when you talk about celebrity and its impact on our country, it seems that Donald Trump's ultimate undoing will be his own celebrity and his mind.
	I think that he's much more interested in being talked about than he is about being strategic in the way that he goes about winning the election.
	If he didn't know who this Nick Fuentes kid was, is he not vetting the people that are actually coming to Mar-a-Lago and sitting down with him as if he is not being looked at under a microscope that is projected 100 times over?
	It just seems like an unforced error.
	It seems nonsensical.
	And it just, I think that Trump will be the reason why we don't take 2024, and I know he's not going to step aside and let DeSantis do his thing.
	Well, you know, that's a fair point, and Trump does love some celebrity, and it's just one of his flaws.
	You know, we accept his flaws because he kicks ass and take names.
	But at some point, he's got to stop doing stuff like that because it's costing.
	It's costing all of us.
	And I think that's a fair thing.
	And let's hope he learns from that because he's still quite likely to be the nominee.
	Hey, this is Jim Hansen.
	I appreciate always a chance to bend your ears for a couple hours.

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