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if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. .
Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate.
Mr. Gorbachev, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
I'm not being nostalgic, dear friends, playing that, although I could play that every single hour of every single day of this show because of its significance.
Standing there at the Brandenburg Gate in front of the Berlin Wall that separated families, actually separated German families that cleaved through the heart of Europe, a symbol of freedom on one side and captive nations on the other.
I play that for you because of its relevance today.
Seventeen months after that speech was given by a president who had had those lines, tear down this wall, removed six times by his own State Department.
Yes, the Deep State is older than President Trump's administration.
Lines that he had to manually re-insert by hand into the hard copy of the speech as he was driving in the beast to the Brandenburg Gate.
Seventeen months after those words were uttered, tear down this wall, the wall was torn down.
But not by Gorbachev, not by the apparatchiks of East Germany.
But by the prisoners of East Germany, by the citizens who manually, with their hands, with ropes, with chains, with pickaxes, took down the wall that inhumanly separated people from people, that was a symbol of a slave nation and a slave ideology.
Today that ideology is alive and well.
It's alive and well on the campuses of America.
It's alive and well inside Palo Alto.
It's alive and well in Hollywood.
But in its most deadly form it is alive and well.
In the nations of North Korea, of Cuba, and of China.
A nation that has labor camps, a nation that has utter total surveillance over its citizens, that welds them into their homes as part of their zero COVID policy.
A nation where right now, just as in 1956 on the streets of Budapest, the students are going out to protest the regime.
The regime which is built on power and brute force alone.
A regime with one political party, the Communist Party of China.
A regime where if you say the wrong thing, if you make a joke about Xi Jinping, if you try to download the wrong app, You will have the secret police on your doorstep.
You may disappear.
You may even be killed if you resist the writ of the new emperor clothed in red.
The students of China may be ostensibly protesting the new round of lockdown measures for zero COVID, but it's not about zero COVID.
It's about the inner yearning for freedom.
It is about students holding up blank pieces of paper and chanting, she must go because this is what we're allowed to say.
Nothing!
We're allowed to say nothing unless it comports with the regime.
And what is the response from this?
The freest nation Until recently, on God's green earth, the nation that was born, founded, gestated as a response to tyranny, that was founded by men who risked everything, who swore, who committed their treasure, their lives, and their sacred honor
For liberty in the face of the tyranny that was King George?
What is the response from America, the shining city on the hill?
The nation that every single year thousands and thousands and now millions of people risk their lives and their children's lives to come here?
What is the response?
Well, let's listen to that response from Admiral John Kirby of the White House.
I'm wondering, what is the president's reaction when he hears protesters in China chant freedom or Xi Jinping step down?
The president's not going to speak for protesters around the world.
They're speaking for themselves.
That statement makes you Kirby, Kabul Kirby, makes you Joe Beijing Biden, an accomplice of the murderers, an accomplice of the oppressors in Beijing.
We're not going to talk for them.
What do you mean we're not going?
Nobody asked you to talk for them!
They're risking their lives right now!
We're asking you to stand with them, to say, yes, it is glorious that they are doing what every free people in the earth wants to do.
To have government that represents them.
A government of the people, by the people, for the people.
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So there's no reaction?
These protesters are speaking for themselves.
What we are doing is making it clear that we support the right of peaceful protest.
They're being beaten.
They're being swept off the street into unmarked vans.
They're being arrested.
Do you support that as well, Admiral Kirby?
Joe Biden?
You have no soul.
I don't care if it's the 1.4 billion dollars your son got from the National Bank of Communist China, Joe.
I don't care!
I don't care whether it's the slimy business dealings or what Tim Cook is telling you.
Oh, don't be mean to China.
I don't give a damn what the reason is.
Whether you're being blackmailed or making money.
It's wrong and it is un-American.
Let me remind you of the America we believe in as patriots.
1947, President Truman's declaration of the Truman Doctrine and what oppression in other countries means for all Americans.
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One of the primary objectives of the foreign policy of the United States is the creation of conditions in which we and other nations will be able to work out a way of life free from coercion.
This is no more than a frank recognition that totalitarian regimes imposed upon free peoples by direct or indirect aggression undermine the foundations of international peace And hence the security of the United States.
Coercion of free peoples everywhere is an assault on America's national security.
Because sooner or later, the dictator comes after us.
You are spineless filth.
You are corrupt and you are un-American.
And we must remove you from office by 2024.
What are you doing to be part of that?
I'm asking you right now, dear listener, dear viewer.
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I'm very sorry, Dr. G. I thought it was the end.
Yeah, you dropped the gun.
gun, that's okay.
Can you play cut first?
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Can you give me, you say we like them, we want them to produce, give me a number on how long.
Do you want them to do it for five more years?
For ten more years?
How long will we need these major oil producers to keep drilling?
What does he mean, we're going to end drilling?
When?
Well, eventually we are going to be phasing out the use of oil.
What is eventually?
What's eventually?
Because you're not going to want to invest any money in doing this.
Or even five years, almost.
So, I don't think we're talking about two, three years.
We're talking about longer than that.
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It's funny, I kind of compartmentalize I don't talk about my TV show a lot on the radio show.
I don't talk about the radio show a lot on my Newsmax TV show.
But sometimes you have to, because you have a guest on that produces such inordinate feedback.
Positive feedback, that you say, we touched something there, something resonated.
And recently, and it's kind of made me recommit myself to the plight of political prisoners in America.
We had an individual on the show called Jerry Perner, who was the aunt of Matt Perner.
Who killed himself because of Biden's Department of Justice and FBI.
And I just want to play a short clip and then welcome a very special guest.
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Matt hung himself in his garage and our family was crushed and still is crushed.
They pushed him to this.
I want people to understand what she just said.
A young man, a good young man, was pushed to death to commit suicide because of this administration and this Department of Justice.
I want every viewer to be clear that that man died because of the Biden administration.
And I want everybody who's watching To remember this man, and to never give up in the name of America, because he is a martyr to this nation.
I meant that sincerely, and I still mean it today.
Matt Perna is a martyr to this nation, killed by this administration.
We have Geri Perna in studio with us.
Geri, welcome to America First.
Thank you very much.
Before we went live in the break, you said that you'd also received some feedback to the interview.
Tell me, because people just reached out and said thank you and some people had no idea, no idea what was happening in America.
What kind of things happened after your interview?
I received well over 100 emails on the website.
Beautiful emails.
I did receive a few hate ones, but that's to be expected.
But people are completely unaware about what is going on with the J6ers, and most of them didn't know about my nephew.
What brings you to DC today?
I'm here today because I have a fundraiser to go to tomorrow night that Patriot Freedom Project is hosting.
They are raising money for the families of J6 for their Christmases, and so I came in to help with that.
And when you hear these messages or you read the emails, What response, because now you're talking to three million people across America, when you realize that colleagues of mine have no idea what's happening to the 900 people who are arrested, the more than a hundred are still in jail, what do you want to tell them?
Beyond Matt's story, what is it that Americans need to know, Jerry?
People need to know what's happening.
Our rights are being taken away from us.
Our freedoms of speech are being completely dismantled in this country.
And I don't think people realize that you don't have to walk through the Capitol and be called an insurrectionist to be targeted by our government.
You can just speak out at a school board meeting, or maybe at an airport where you are being harassed for some reason or whatever.
You can be in the same shoes as Matthew Perna was.
It's not unfathomable.
I mean, my nephew walked into the Capitol building armed with a cell phone.
He took pictures.
He made videos.
He stayed within the velvet ropes, only to find out that that was the biggest mistake of his life.
And it could happen to anybody, and people need to wake up and realize what is happening in our country today.
For those that missed the interview, let's just sketch very briefly what happened.
You're going to stay with us for one more segment, but he was first charged with a misdemeanor.
He was charged with misdemeanors, four of them.
And then they raised the ante, and he would have received A terrorist enhancement that would have taken the potential prison term from six months to six years.
And then the hearing for that enhancement was planned for what day?
It was planned on the day, the anniversary of his mother's death.
And then they postponed that date, like they did all the others, to April Fool's Day.
No one's going to tell me these are coincidences.
These are all very well-planned attacks.
And you are convinced that it is the political exploitation of the judicial system.
Absolutely.
Going from a misdemeanor to a terrorism charge for walking through the velvet ropes in a congressional building that led to his taking his own life.
And it's called the People's House, first of all.
And second of all, you plead guilty to A, B, and C. They should not be allowed to add D on at the end.
And that's precisely what they were doing with my nephew.
His name is Matthew Poehner.
The website is RememberingMattPoehner.
Please, if you care about America, if you believe in justice, go to that website right now in the break.
That's RememberingMattPoehner.com.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
We're talking to Matt's aunt, Geri Poehner.
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We're back with Gerry Purner.
Please write down remembering Matt Perner dot com.
We're talking about at least one person that we know of who died because of political persecution after January 6th by the Biden administration.
And I wanted you to talk a little bit about Matthew, but first, I was preparing for today's show, and I wasn't thinking about Matthew, but I was thinking about January 6th, and I was trying to work out how many real fighters there are out there, how many people who have a political responsibility, are congressmen, are senators, who are prepared to fight for their fellow Americans and to stop persecution.
And in the break we went through the numbers, it's like, Six people.
Seven people.
I mean, tomorrow it'll be Marjorie Taylor Greene speaking.
The people who actually visited the prison were, what, Paul Gosar, Louis Gohmert, Matt Gaetz, Andy Biggs, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
And we kind of exhausted, you know, there's hundreds of people with the letter R behind their name.
Where are they?
What did you say?
Before he committed suicide, You asked for help from how many people in Congress?
So many.
Probably a dozen we reached out to either through email or phone calls to their offices, including our congressman in Western Pennsylvania, Mike Kelly.
We didn't receive one phone call back or an email response or anything.
You were just asking for help?
Help.
A direction.
What direction should we go in this?
We were just dumbfounded.
And not one politician responded?
Not even one.
Not even one.
Let's talk about Matthew.
What kind of a man was Matthew?
Matt was so loved by so many people.
He had dozens of friends, just dozens, from all over the world because he traveled the world.
He lit up a room when he walked in.
He had this energy about him, this positive energy.
If you were feeling down, Matt was the one that would raise you up.
He was so smart.
His house was filled with books.
Matt did not like a Kindle or anything like that.
He liked to have a hardback book in his hand.
He liked the smell of a book when he cracked it open.
He read constantly and he was always like that from the time he was little.
And he was traveling.
He was somewhere in the globe.
When he heard about his mother being diagnosed with cancer.
Exactly.
So he comes back to minister to his mother.
He did.
He was working in South Korea for two years teaching English and when his mom was diagnosed with leukemia, it was a bad prognosis.
And so I texted Matt and I said, Matt, I really think you need to come home.
And he immediately canceled his contract and he was on the first flight out of there and he came back to be there with his mom.
And do you know, did you talk to him why he came to Washington on January the 6th?
What was he hoping would happen?
Did he just want some answers?
Matt felt that it was going to be a day of celebration.
He thought it was going to be a historical moment, and he wanted to be a part of it.
And he was certain in his heart that Mike Pence was not going to certify the election, and there was going to be this huge celebration in the street, and he just wanted to be here for it.
Never did he expect it to go the way that it did.
What is your message to those who say, can't happen to me, can't happen to my nephew, can't happen to my son?
of Matthew Perna.
The website is Remembering Matt Perna.
He is a martyr to America who died because of Biden's DOJ and FBI.
What is your message to those, Gerry, who say, "Can't happen to me, can't happen to my nephew, can't happen to my son"?
I'd say you're sadly mistaken, because it happened to my nephew, who never had even a parking ticket in his life.
Never had any altercations whatsoever with the law.
He was a patriot.
He was a tax-paying, successful businessman.
Never hurt anyone.
And to find himself in the position that he was in, and for us as his family to watch him deteriorate, Over that 13 months since January 6 took place, and we watched him go from this vibrant, energetic man to someone who was afraid to leave his home because he was so embarrassed.
I know firsthand it could happen to anybody, and if you don't believe it, then I feel sorry for you.
Wake up, America!
Wake up, America!
I will have another victim of January the 6th on my show this Sunday on Newsmax.
Please pray for Matt and pray for his family.
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All right, so what did you do on Sunday?
I hope you went to church.
What did you do after church?
Did you laze around?
Did you have some projects at home?
I went to an amazing establishment.
It's called the Museum of the Bible.
It is a world, it is like the biggest secret in DC.
It is the most amazing museum that you've never heard of.
And they invited me to come and read the Christmas A part of the Christmas gospel stories.
And it was quite intimidating because I had to sit on a very comfortable couch they put up in one of the staircases.
They gave me a little microphone and it was broadcast through this huge building as I read from Luke and from Matthew the story of our Lord's birth.
And as I'm leaving, what happens?
One of our good buddies is right there at the entrance, and he says, hello, Dr. G. And we are delighted to have him on the show.
John Harvey, what were you doing at the Museum of the Bible on Sunday?
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
It was so amazing to see you there at the lobby of the Museum of the Bible.
I was there to take in the Watchman E!
exhibit.
Yeah, we checked out, we spent time before and after my little performance checking out the latest exhibits at the museum, which is amazing.
Guys, you've got to go if you're in D.C., Museum of the Bible.
It's the most incredible museum ever.
They spent over $500 million on that museum.
It's the most technological advanced, I think, museum in the country, if not the world.
It's incredibly accurate as far as the Bible and the history of the Bible.
Yeah, it's world-class.
It's truly world-class.
All right, we didn't come to discuss our reminiscing of what happened on Sunday.
We came to discuss your latest project.
You're working on a book, which should be out soon.
You're going to tell us about money supply, inflation, what we have to prepare for, which isn't very positive.
But let me just be a little anecdotal first.
We've been talking about the state of the economy with my wife, who runs the finances.
She's the smart one.
She runs the accounts at home.
And she is not excited about investing in shares and stocks right now.
So what is she doing?
She's investing in our home right now.
All kinds of projects.
We ripped up the little barbecue area outside the home right now.
Diggers and concrete everywhere, even though it's, you know, December.
Because she says, I don't trust the market.
I'd rather invest in my home in real estate.
I think she's quite wise, don't you, John?
You may be a smart one there, Dr. Skorka.
In a way, I mentioned I've been doing the research for a new book they were coming out with called Alternative Real Estate Investing in a Voluntary Market.
And, oh my gosh, the research I've been doing I can't believe what I'm researching.
You know, the M2 money supply.
Explain M2 money supply.
Yes, the M2 money supply is basically all savings, including certificates of deposits and other financial accounts.
And the M2 money supply increased, you're not going to believe this, 24.8% year over year in 2020.
And in the winter of 2021, it increased 13.1% year over year.
Now, just to understand how extraordinary this is, the last similar increase in the money supply was way back in 1976.
When it was just 13.4% and previous to that was 1971 when it was just 13.4%.
Hang on, hang on.
So we're talking about the disastrous 70s and we're talking about a doubling of the rate that it was in the 70s.
Exactly.
I don't know why people aren't talking about this.
I mean, why do you have inflation?
It's because the government prints too much money.
And not only that, Dr. Gorka, but we are so far behind on the differential between the consumer price index, which is inflation, and the Fed rate.
The Fed is currently 7.1% behind inflation.
We have not been that far behind inflation since 1974, when we were 3.6% behind.
So what does that mean?
Because you're from Cornerstone Financial, you specialize in these tax-deferred investment options.
If you agree with my wife that the stock market is in trouble, the Fed is always Historically, the markets have always come back, right?
What is the smart thing to do, informationally?
You know, historically, the markets have always come back, right?
It always goes up.
But if you look at the data, you're absolutely right, Dr. Gorka, Back in the inflation-filled 1970s, when we had this much inflation and we had this high of interest rates, the markets kept going.
There were peaks and valleys, of course, small recoveries, but the overall trend was down, down, down.
It actually lost half its value, and the base of the trough was in 1980 when our friend Ronald Reagan was elected.
Unbelievable.
So it starts coming back, but it doesn't gain the pre-inflationary values till the mid-1990s.
That's a 15-year difference.
So what does that mean right now?
When could things stabilize for us?
Is it a decade, five years, seven years?
How bad could it be?
You know, I believe we should learn from history.
It may be that we'd have nothing to learn from history and the market will keep, you know, going up.
But I think It is very probable that we'll see a continued downward trend in the markets with some increases and some decreases.
And that it is really, really now is when you need to adopt a new strategy to reallocate your stock portfolio to maybe say 20, not everything, but of course, maybe 20, 30% of your portfolio over to alternative real estates like DST Real Estate Investments that have greater diversification, All right.
They're a hard asset.
They have intrinsic value, a hedge against inflation.
They're not correlated with the stock market.
They provide monthly cash flow, and they're tax sheltered.
All right.
So when can we expect the new book?
Sometime in the first quarter?
Yes, first quarter of 2021.
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Oh, turn that down, please, guy.
Thank you.
Biden's DOJ killed Matthew Perna.
Monologue?
Monologue.
Give me something good.
In the meantime, Harvey DiFimio, I assume?
Yes.
Alrighty.
Oh, and Prado as well.
Yeah.
The castration culture in America.
What time is the, um... Spicer?
Spicer.
Uh, 5.30.
5.30.
Still gonna do it from here, I assume.
Okay... 45 seconds.
seconds.
This is the E segment already.
Um...
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Thank you.
That was a pretty heavy hour, right, Eric?
Talk about a whirlwind of emotions there.
Guy, pretty heavy, pretty tough hour?
Yes, sir, it is.
Jeff, shall we have some fun now?
Why not?
Katie Porter's always good for a laugh, right?
Yes.
Right, this is Katie Porter, whose daughter thinks the world is a fireball and it's going to end imminently because she believes AOC.
If she doesn't succeed in Congress, if she wants to, you know, hang up her shingle in another profession, I think stand-up comedian would be a good choice.
This is what she has to say about Biden and the economy.
I have been saying for a year plus that inflation is a real problem for families.
It affects their everyday decisions they make in the grocery store, with their kids, with their planning.
It's a real problem.
Democrats have taken steps and we need to continue to push forward on that.
We are the party that delivers a strong and stable economy for the working people of America.
We are the party that delivers a strong and stable economy for the working people of America.
You know, I think 90% of them, they know they're lying.
They know it.
Some of them They're just as dumb as rocks.
Jeff, Katie Porter, she probably believes that crap, doesn't she?
No, she's lying.
Really?
Yes, there's no way you can be that stupid.
But if you live in a bubble, if you get, you know, driven to work every day, if there's free cappuccinos at the congressional, you know, dining room, do you think she couldn't just be utterly isolated from reality?
No, because she hasn't been there long enough.
It's only her second term.
Good point.
Good point.
Eric, stupid or cynical?
I'm gonna actually disagree with Mr. G on that one.
I think stupid, and the reason why is because whenever Katie Porter's name is mentioned, the first and only thing that comes to my mind, I will never unsee until my dying days, is her showing up to Capitol Hill dressed as Batwoman.
Oh my gosh.
Halloween.
Alright, in the break I need to see that because I need another laugh.
Alex, cynical or stupid?
What's your vote?
You're stupid and could use a little PT.
I looked at that image and I thought, who's that dude dressed as a woman?
Who's that Admiral in Health and Human Services?
Richard Levine.
I thought it was like another Richard Levine.
It's like, why?
What's going on here?
Are the Democrats being taken over by the gender confused?
We have to discuss that guy who stole that $3,000 handbag.
What's his name?
Brinton?
Sam Brinton.
Sam Brinton.
You know what's really interesting about that story?
He was busted in September.
How come we just found out about it two days ago?
I think it's like December already, isn't it?
And it's a crime that was committed in September.
A felony.
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Whatever the Democrats call their legislation, just reverse it.
The Defense of Marriage Act is an assault on marriage.
The first vote that has passed it to the next stage has just been taken.
What does it mean for America, for our culture, and for the civilization?
Plus, a very special guest.
We're talking to Lee Zeldin, who may be challenging Rona McDaniel for the chair position at the RNC.
Thank you.
Late this afternoon, the United States Senate will vote on the final passage of the Radical Respect for Marriage Act after voting on three religious freedom amendments.
That legislation establishes a national policy on same-sex marriage that will be used to target people and institutions of faith, as well as schools, according to the Heritage Foundation.
It will be used to deny them tax-exempt status, government contracts, scholarships, and grants, as well as licenses including for adoption, foster care, and counseling services.
Senators will vote on amendments from Republicans Mike Lee, James Lankford, and Marco Rubio.
Crucial amendments aimed at protecting Americans' religious freedoms.
Now, Senator Lee has urged the Senators to have the courage to protect religious liberty in a letter directed at the 12 Republicans who voted for the radical legislation.
The free exercise of religion is absolutely essential to the health of our Republic, wrote Lee.
we must have the courage to protect it.
Thank you.
Republicans say that Democrats are picking on Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is doing just fine.
But do you think that users have a right to freedom of speech, even if what they're saying is wrong or offensive?
I think that one human being should not decide how millions of people communicate with each other.
One human being should not be able to go into a dark room by himself and decide, oh, that person gets heard from, that person doesn't.
That's not how it should work.
Thank you.
That legislation establishes a national policy on same-sex marriage that will be used to target people and institutions of faith, as well as schools, according to the Heritage Foundation.
It will be used to deny them tax-exempt status, government contracts, scholarships, and grants, as well as licenses including for adoption, foster care, and counseling services.
Senators will vote on amendments from Republicans Mike Lee, James Lankford, and Marco Rubio.
Crucial amendments aimed at protecting Americans' religious freedoms.
Now, Senator Lee has urged the Senators to have the courage to protect religious liberty in a letter directed at the 12 Republicans who voted for the radical legislation.
The free exercise of religion is absolutely essential to the health of our Republic, wrote Lee.
We must have the courage to protect it.
That's Mary Margaret O'Lehan of the Daily Signal at Heritage, and sadly that vote has occurred.
More than a dozen Republicans voted for it, including Amit Romney.
What do we do with a Republican party that isn't on the side of the founding principles of this nation?
Let's ask a man who never gives up fighting.
He represents the 1st Congressional District of New York.
He got so close to being the Governor of New York, but I see a bright, bright future for him.
He's an Army veteran.
He's a great patriot.
Congressman Lee Zeldin, welcome back to America First!
Always good to be with you, Sev.
Now, I think it's because we couldn't organize our calendars to get me out to campaign for you that meant Hoke will beat you.
So next time, we've got to make sure that Gorka gets out to campaign for you.
We've got to do that, okay?
Yeah, listen, it was a close race.
We're sending 11 Republicans in the New York House delegation down to D.C.
if it was a That is quo election in New York.
No red wave coming to the state.
There would have been six.
Uh so, you know, we did our part in New York to make sure that we were taking that gavel out of Nancy Pelosi's hand as far as the top of the ticket goes.
Joe Biden was 23 ran 23 points ahead in the final tally in New York in 2020.
We took the race about 17 18 points to the right.
It really is something that I would want the Republican Party to look at in New York, because a lot of the strategy can be replicated nationwide.
It's about the way that we message, not just what we are against, but also what we are for.
It's about the way that we get into cities and the earned media and how that reaches out into the suburbs.
Starting early, working hard, running as a team.
There's a lot that we did in New York that we're proud of, even though we came up a little bit short.
And yeah, next time around, Seb.
I look forward to getting you out there.
I want to salute you because you were the tip of the spear for all those incredible successes in New York.
So God bless you for everything you've made possible in the recent election.
In a state, what is it?
There's like, what, 35% of the state are only registered Republicans?
Is that right?
That's actually less.
It's in the low 20s.
Oh my God.
So there are millions, many millions more Democrats than Republicans in the state, yet we were able to get within just a few points.
And there's a lot to build off of, too.
I'll tell you this.
There are Democrats out there who are Asians in the city.
There are Hispanic voters in the city.
There are black voters in the city.
And they, when I was showing up, it was like they haven't seen a Republican in a really long time.
Like showing up was important, but I would also say when you do show up, you don't just show up and say, you know, vote for me.
I love black people, or I love Asian people, or I love Hispanic people.
What you do is you show up and you talk to them about the issues that matter most to them.
Hey, these streets are not safe.
This is how we make them safe.
You know, the kids, the quality of education inside of your kid's school needs to vastly improve.
Here's how.
And it gets them really starting to think that what they have been buying all these years by loyally supporting Democrats, that there may be a better way.
Remember President Trump years ago said to the black community, what do you have to lose?
Well, there are a lot of people who have given up hope.
And it's a pretty cool thing to experience as a candidate or somebody working on a campaign when your message is successfully resonating and you can see that outpouring of hope, of faith.
And for anybody who is going to be running for office in the future, it is not just about saying Joe Biden is bad, the Democratic Party is bad, which, by the way, this is stuff that has to get pointed out.
I mean, you can't just not talk about it.
But don't get so obsessed over that aspect of the messaging that you forgot to tell people what you stand for.
Because that's how you create a movement.
Last thing, if I could say real quick, Seb, is in 2016 on Long Island, the Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton aspect, the people who were voting for Hillary Clinton on Long Island despised Donald Trump.
That's why they were voting for Hillary Clinton.
The people who were voting for Donald Trump, they despised Hillary Clinton.
But it wasn't just that.
People who weren't active in politics, They weren't active voters.
They were citing for me, make America great again, drain the swamp, build a wall, repeal ObamaCare.
All right, so this is, I wanted to ask you about this, Lee.
I asked you on the show to talk about this incredibly exciting news that you're considering running for the challenging chairperson for the RNC, which is huge, and you have my full support.
But let's deal with this.
You brought it up right now, because I don't buy the contention That the midterms were the less than ideal result they were because people were voting against President Trump.
I think it's two things.
I think the first thing is what you said that we didn't know the narrative.
I mean, except for people like you and others, we didn't know the narrative of the GOP.
What's their narrative on abortion?
What's their narrative on the economy?
It was kind of a black box and we didn't know what was in it.
And then secondly, more significant, in those states like Pennsylvania, Or Virginia, where there's 50 or 45 days of voting, where there's ballot harvesting.
The GOP weren't prepared to play that game.
We said to our people, don't forget to vote on election day!
But it doesn't matter in states like Pennsylvania, where 50% of the state have voted even before the first debate.
So where do you stand on this was an indictment of America First and Trump versus what I'm saying that we were out-organized and out-narratived?
I mean, it's without a doubt, on both points that you just raised, they're indisputably spot on.
As far as the narrative goes, in 1994, Newt Gingrich had a contract with America, and the candidates all knew what was in it, the media was talking about what was in it, the voters knew what they were buying.
And unfortunately, that just wasn't the case this time around, where Where if you're running in some state or local race, the national Wind should not be blowing in your face when there's one-party Democrat rule on the opposite side.
And what you need to be doing is, and it's very simple, I mean, you're doing everything in your power to save this country while you're running against Democrats who seem to be doing everything in their power to save themselves.
If you care about the attacks on your wallets, your safety, your freedom, the quality of your kids' education in this country, we have to do everything in our power to reverse that.
And here's how, and you're coming out with your plan on those individual topics, and you can, by the way, you could be running for a governor's race, you could be running for a congressional race, a state legislative race, and everybody could be talking about that.
But you need leadership united, and you need an entire ticket team, top-down, bottom-up.
Now, the other point, the second point you said, I oppose ballot harvesting, okay?
I do not agree with it.
It should not be legal.
However, if A state goes ahead and legalizes it, my position is that I want to do it better than you.
Bingo.
I want to make the Democrats regret Ever legalizing it in the first place.
All right, that's superb.
We've got one minute left.
I gotta ask you the question because we're worried if the GOP has, you know, an eight-seat majority in the House, they're not going to do what needs to be done.
So are you serious about running for the RNC?
When are we going to have the final decision?
Because we need some change.
So I am seriously considering getting into this race for RNC chair.
And this isn't a vote.
It should be.
This isn't a vote of every person who's a registered Republican.
If it was, it wouldn't even be close.
It would be a landslide.
However, it's actually a vote of 168 RNC members, and you need a majority of those 168.
Now, I've been through a lot of these whip operations as a member of the House.
We got 20 seconds.
What can our listeners do to help you in that race?
Well, listen, it's going to be important, if we get into this race, for everybody to be reaching out to their state Republican Party chairman, the national committee man, the national committee woman, to let them know what they want.
Good.
I love it.
I can't wait.
Please, please announce soon, and then we can start mobilizing everyone across the country to reach out to their local chairs.
He's Congressman Lee Zeldin.
And we need him as the chair of the RNC.
God bless you, Lee!
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When it comes from marines, it's even better.
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Cordy, welcome back to America First.
Thanks for having me, Seb.
See, I said beautiful man forever, and here you are losing all this weight, getting all buff on me, man.
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So, why are you sending me, last night, pornographic cartoons on my phone?
What the hell is going on?
Give us the story.
Well, my good friend Lindsay Jones, she's a mama bear of five, she's a teacher, an educator, really brought this to light.
And there's a book, 2006, called A Fun Home, a Family Tragic Comic, by a lady named Allison Betchell.
She puts it out in 2006.
Long story short, it's this book that has her very just awful, horrible childhood filled with her dad being a pedophile and just, I mean, it's disgusting.
So let's just be clear here.
This is a comic.
I'm looking at the images right now.
I can't show you on the TV screen.
It's sexually explicit comic book.
It's a graphic novel about her story, I guess, as an abused girl, abused young woman.
And why is this an issue?
Where did your friend find this comic book?
Well, so in the Fallbrook High School, they have an online library where you can go and search for pretty much anything you want.
And there were two books in particular that came out that are both by a publisher called Huffton & Mifflin.
Huffton & Mifflin is out of New York.
They've been doing stuff for years.
It's a big, big publisher.
Big publisher.
But what they're trying to do is push now from a cultural perspective.
They're calling this what the kids culturally need.
That's how these books enter either into a school system curriculum, which thank God they're not in Fallbrook yet, but they're in the library.
And there was another book called Beyond Magenta that was also out there.
Let me just get it clear because we haven't even spoken since you did the data dump last night.
So it's in the catalog.
It's in this electronic access for the high school.
Can the kids see the images or can they order the book through the system?
What's the level of exposure to the children?
Anybody has access to the book either online or in person.
So your kid could end up with this book in their backpack tomorrow.
And to your point, I mean, Literally, we're talking about graphic images, images that kids 7th, 8th, 9th grade don't need exposure to.
And here's my big thing.
Why should our taxpayer dollars pay for it?
And then why should the school determine what our kids need to know sexually?
And, you know, they're teaching stuff that is made for a parent to teach.
I was, you know, noodling on this issue this morning.
We're always doing show prep, you know, as long as we're awake.
And it's just very simple.
If you as an adult are talking about sex, in any way, shape, or form, in terms of your sexual proclivities, sex amongst adults, with children, you are a groomer.
It's that simple, Cordy.
Yeah, I agree and you know the problem here too is literally this lady is telling this story of her life and her father and her father to say the least is a disgusting, sick, satanic, demonic puppy.
And then he's passing her books on how to become a lesbian.
Early on in her childhood, she's saying, and this is going out to your kids.
Your kids are reading this in comic book form.
And she's saying, oh, my dad was abusive.
He was this and that.
And then by the end of the book, she's hailing him as a hero and why she understands why he did all the things he did.
It's disgusting, man.
It's normalizing pedophilia and normalizing kids getting pornography in their head at an early age.
It's normalizing the perverse.
I did a whole monologue on it yesterday, guys.
If you missed it, I got rather emotional.
You've got to listen to it.
Cordy, what is this mama bear doing?
What is your recommendation?
Where's this school?
What should our listeners do?
Well, I think the first thing you need to do, and this is something Lindsey and I talked about, and my associate Kelly Hanson, is you need to go and check the card catalogs for your libraries.
You need to go online and search.
What books do your high schools or your middle school even, God forbid, what do they have out there?
And you can't just take the word of your principal or your board of education people.
You need to go investigate on your own.
For Fallbrook High School, at least they have a form that you can fill out, and actually there's a bunch of parents on December 12th that are going to be congregating before the board there and saying, hey, we don't want these books in our schools anymore, because there's local high schools, Seb, they're doing plays on this stuff.
Like, some of these plays have gone Broadway, and now they're putting some of them in high school, and it's all about sexual perversion and teaching our kids stuff they shouldn't know.
Alright guys, first thing you need to do, listen to this man.
I did this myself when my kids came home from a Catholic school one day and I was just looking at their history because you know I love history and I was just flicking through the book and it said in a Catholic school's history book The Prophet Muhammad was known for being a great father and husband.
And I'm thinking, what, when he's having sex with Aisha age 10?
I mean, you need to know what your children aren't simply being taught, because that's how you can't be in the classroom, but what they have access to and what the school board is saying is permissible and is not impermissible.
All right, dear friend.
Thank you for raising that issue.
Maybe we should have your friend on next time.
In the meantime, you've got to follow Dr. Cordie Williams.
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You know what the protesters are saying.
They're saying, hey, Xi Jinping's got to go.
Or loosen the COVID restrictions that are keeping people stuck in their houses for months.
So between he's got to go or loosen restrictions, which side is the White House on when it comes to supporting the protesters?
We're, Steve, we're on the side of peaceful protest.
We're on the side of individuals being able to freely assemble and to express their views, whatever those views are.
We're not taking a side in terms of what these protesters are about.
Scumbag, scumbag, scumbag, scumbag.
All right.
Yes, yes, Lee Zeldin for RNC chair.
and exclamation mark um uh block the lines more pedo porn in our schools.
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You know what the protesters are saying.
They're saying, hey, Xi Jinping's got to go.
Or loosen the COVID restrictions that are keeping people stuck in their houses for months.
So between he's got to go or loosen restrictions, which side is the White House on when it comes to supporting the protesters?
Steve, we're on the side of peaceful protest.
We're on the side of individuals being able to freely assemble and to express their views.
Whatever those views are, we're not taking a side in terms of what these protesters are about.
Really, Kabul Kirby?
You're on the side of peaceful protesters, whatever they want?
What if they were protesting against the vaccines?
What if they were protesting against the abortion policies of Communist China?
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You're a coward.
You won't even tell the truth.
Were you on the side of the peaceful protesters of the Freedom Convoy in Canada?
Or was your senile boss encouraging Trudeau to use war power authorities to freeze people's bank accounts?
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Hey, Dr. G. Hey, you sound a little low.
Are you in an OP?
Have you got to be quiet?
Yes, yes.
Deep behind enemy lines.
I'll make this quick.
Speaking strictly in code.
OK.
Great monologue.
A little tough.
Boy, you give it to us, Dr. G. You really do.
But these are tough times.
But I wanted to do some t-shirts.
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OK.
The first one, inspired by your first guest.
Political prisoners are un-American until the Biden regime.
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Work that.
You can, you know, massage it and work it, but I think there's a working idea there.
I think we need some product that's for the prisoners.
I absolutely do that.
On top of the bracelet that was mentioned last week by one of our great listeners.
All right, next one.
Never before in America.
There you go.
Political prisoners.
Never before.
Liberty, an existential threat to Democrats.
Oh, hang on, hang on.
This is good.
Liberty, an existential threat to Democrats.
That's good.
That's philosophical, but it's also to the point.
What else?
There you go.
A black t-shirt with white letters on it.
Basic liberty matters.
Basic.
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I see what you did there.
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I like that.
How about Baby's Lives Matter?
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Alright, so I posted something on Twitter.
This morning, I think it was, or yesterday.
It's a blur.
And it was a very simple definition.
If you're talking about sex to somebody else's child and your sexual proclivities, you are a groomer!
We'll see if Elon deletes it.
I doubt it because he's on a rampage for the First Amendment.
And I think there's somebody else who's very happy about the new ownership at Twitter.
Her name is Jamie Mitchell and she is from the organization Gays Against Groomers.
Jamie, welcome to America First.
Thanks for having me on.
Can I play identity politics with you?
Please.
Are you gay?
Are you gay?
Yes, I am a lesbian.
An America First lesbian.
She's an America First lesbian.
So why would a gay person create an organization with the title that yours has?
Give us the genesis.
Tell us why you exist.
Perfect.
Yeah, so you know, like everybody else in the world, we've been seeing what's been happening coming from our community.
You know, the attack on children to sexualize them.
To indoctrinate them in schools and most terrifically to mutilate their bodies and chemically castrate them under, you know, all happening under the guise of tolerance and LGBTQIA++, ABC, I don't know.
Hang on, hang on.
You're not allowed to make fun of the alphabet soup.
You're going to get deleted by all the people who are so politically correct.
That's okay.
We've been banned.
Gays Against the Force has been banned from like eight or nine platforms now.
We got banned from PayPal, Venmo, Twitter.
We're back on Twitter, but I mean, the list, it goes on.
So I saw that happening, and I've been online under the name The Gay Who Strayed for like five or six years, and I have a big following there.
And it got to the point where I just was like, I can't just sit by here anymore and not use my platform to try and stop it from inside the community.
Because there are millions of us.
We are the majority of people in the community that just want to live our lives.
All we wanted was...
a short space of time let me run past you what I've heard from other people because I'm not part of the community but I listen to psychiatrists I listen to amazing people like Miriam Grossman and and there's this hypothesis or there's this you know scenario that regular gay people who just want to live their lives
look at this transgender agenda and they look at this uh what do they call it explaining away gay or transitioning away gay and they they look at young boys who are being chemically castrated who are having mutilation done to them via surgery
And they see that these are probably young boys who, for whatever reason, will probably grow up to be homosexual men, but the transgender ideology is trying to magic that away by turning them into fake girls.
Is this a dynamic?
Are the old-school homosexual Americans saying, hang on, hang on, what is this insanity?
Oh, a thousand percent.
Yeah, we say stop transing the gay away.
I mean, it's like the new conversion therapy, except like a thousand times worse because they're actually mutilating people's bodies, you know, and castrating them.
Children, not just people, children.
I'm so curious.
I want to have a longer discussion.
I want to get you on for an hour.
I'll get you on my TV show on Newsmax.
I gotta ask, I'm just curious.
What has it been like for you?
To take this stand.
I mean, I know you've been pilloried by the extremists and everybody else and they've cancelled your, you know, your payment platforms, but from your community, from the left, what has it been like for you as a human being, Jamie?
Well, you know, the reactions are very mixed.
There are much, there's much more positive reaction than negative.
But you know, from from our opposition, which, you know, there's no reason to oppose our organization unless you are a groomer or you're in favor of all this stuff, which makes you a groomer in my book.
But they've labeled me the latest terrorist on the block and anti-trans hate group, anti-LGBTQ hate group, which is insane because our whole organization is comprised of only those people.
But people see through that, and the majority of people stand with us.
It's actually crazy.
It's been the most uniting cause, I think, on earth.
I mean, we have people from all walks of life standing next to us and fighting this together.
And, you know, we're happy to be a voice for straight people and parents because they get written off so easily as hateful and bigots and all the phobics.
And we know that's not true, but they do that to silence people, but they can't do that to us.
Alright, I'm just going to put it out there.
I'm a cradle Catholic, you know, born and bred.
I say hate the sin, love the sinner.
But I've got to say, I commend you because I'm not homosexual, but I know that you must be going through some very, very
bad attacks from people who think that they're being virtuous so please check out this lady's website because they're on the side of protecting children and that's what matters protecting the innocent god bless you jamie mitchell it's gays against groomers.com gays against groomers.com and the twitter feed she's got a very scary Profile picture.
She's got the laser eyes like a Cylon.
The gay who strayed.
No E in strayed.
The gay who strayed.
Thank you, Jamie.
I hope you'll come back.
Thank you.
I'd love to.
Have a good one.
All right.
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Well, that was interesting.
Yeah.
Kill the mics.
Kill the mics.
Alright, where are we now?
This is, uh, E. That's not E!
Oh, gotta do Tim Cook.
Gotta do the Tim Cook.
Which one?
Um, probably both.
Okay.
Such a scumbag.
I'll probably reverse the order.
I'll do four, then three.
Start with four, then three.
You got it.
You got a title for, uh, Jamie?
Um...
America First Lesbian.
What did she say?
I'm an America First Lesbian?
That's what she said.
You do it.
Alright.
I'm an America First Lesbian, in quotation marks.
Alright.
Forty seconds.
And you'll tee up those Tim Cook cuts.
I'm an America First Lesbian, colon, Jamie Mit... Gays Against Groomers, Jamie Mitchell.
Alright.
30 seconds. 30 seconds.
30 seconds.
The only man standing between the radical left and your cheeseburgers, it's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Oh, I could do it with a cheeseburger right now.
Hey, Mr. G, what do you think of that?
That was unusual for America First.
What did she call herself?
An America First lesbian?
Yes, it was good.
I liked it.
Yeah, we should get her back.
Let's do a one-on-one.
Let's get her back for a longer chat.
Somebody who is part of the problem, not the solution, is Tim Cook.
Isn't he the CEO of Apple?
I guess that makes him clever?
I don't know, because he sounds sure dumb to me.
This is what Tim Cook says about China and the climate challenge cut for.
There are in the environmental leadership today is very clear and it aligns completely with Apple's values.
The Chinese environmental government.
Yes, yes.
I mean they're very fixated on doing the right things to avert climate change and this is something that means a lot to us as well.
Yeah, because they're only building, what is it, three coal-fired power plants every single day.
And when it comes to the system they have and how great it is, here's Tim Cook again.
China's done an unbelievable job of lifting people out of poverty.
They've done an incredible job, I mean, far beyond what any country has done.
We were talking about mid-90s to today.
The biggest change is the number of people that have been pulled out of poverty.
By far.
And we should all applaud that.
You know, Hitler did that too.
Yeah, oh man, after Weimar Republic, World War I, the reparations, Hitler pulled a lot of Germans out of poverty.
Yeah, with the labor camps and the death camps as well, just like China.
I guess Tim Cook's a fan of Hitler too.
Did I go there?
I went there.
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Line two, Derek!
Can we connect with Derek, line two?
Hello.
Okay, thank you Dr. G. Yes.
So I heard now the Oath Keeper organization, the Oath Keepers, were, I guess some of the leaders were charged with seditious conspiracy by the January 6th committee, a 20-year sentence.
It seems like they're stepping it up now.
Not by the committee, by the DOJ.
The committee can't charge anybody with anything.
You mean the Department of Justice.
Right, but through the, you know, the investigation committee.
Yeah, so what's your question?
What's your point?
I just wanted to know what your thoughts are on that, what you had to say.
It's a lot more, a 20 year sentence is a lot more than the trespassing charges that everyone else has.
No, I mean, I would point everyone to that historic event that occurred yesterday, the The Oath Keeper's chief being charged with seditious conspiracy with one other person.
As Judy Kelly pointed out, first time in American history anyone, anyone has gone to jail convicted of seditious conspiracy.
So you're right, my friend.
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See, like, hearing that, I have chills.
Socialism is the road to slavery.
They sold these people into labor camps.
They sentenced them to maybe 10 or 18 years.
But if you do something against the state, the consequences are even worse.
Socialism is toxic and it's dehumanizing.
And if you did not pledge allegiance to communism, you were beaten and thrown in jail.
What was it like though to get to America and now over the last few decades to see the direction that we're going?
The last thing I imagined was that at some point I will have to fight in the U.S.
for my kids not to have to go through socialism and communism like I did and God is getting closer.
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That's an amazing series of interviews.
It's called The Freedom Records, and it's hosted by our very special guest now from America First one-on-one.
Welcome, dear friends.
I'm your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the President of the United States, and we have with us a very brave lady, a lady who loves America and everything it stands for.
She's the host of The Morgan Seggers Show.
Morgan Seggers, welcome back to America First.
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Thank you for having me.
I warned you last time, Morgan.
I warned you last time.
You call me Dr. Gawker, and this will be the shortest interview you have ever done in your very brief career.
Are we crystal?
Yes, I'm sorry.
It's been a while.
Doesn't matter.
Sebastian.
Alright, mooseggers?
Okay, okay.
Okay, good.
All right, as I was listening to that trailer, and I want to do a little bit about your... I know I do it every time, but for those who haven't heard you before, the backstory of how you got to be what you're doing today is such a fascinating one, an encapsulation of the challenges we face in America.
Before we get to that backstory, and please, you know, you've got to listen to this lady.
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She is an entrepreneur.
She's a patriot.
But the thing that shocked me when I was listening, and I've heard so many of your interviews with survivors, you know, victims of communism, you're the only kid, the only young person I know, Who's doing that?
You can go to the Victims of Communism Museum in D.C.
that opened last year.
You can see, you know, footage and interviews.
You can watch documentaries.
But there's nobody, nobody under the age of 40, 50, 30, you know, except for you, that's doing this.
So, first I want to commend you for doing what you're doing.
Let's start with why.
Why did you think it was important To get on film the experiences and the interviews of people from China, from Cuba, from North Korea, from Venezuela.
What was the initial impetus for you?
Yeah, well, for me, I think it's because I had a personal experience when I went to college.
Now, I had no idea that the situation with our public school system and with how we educate young people on the history of the 20th century and socialism and communism specifically was so bad until I went to school myself and I had a communist roommate.
Now, I've told your listeners about this before, but she basically had a poster on her wall on day one of Mao Zedong, Lenin, Stalin... Now, let's be clear here.
This isn't somebody who came here from North Korea or Vietnam.
This is an American girl at an American college with a poster of mass murderers on her wall who wasn't hiding it, but self-professed her identity as a communist, correct?
Exactly.
And so I ended up in a problem because I'm talking to this self-identifying communist with mass murderers and dictators on her wall, and she's giving me the classic talking points that her ideas are going to lift up the American working class, they're going to work this time because America's a democracy and it's going to be different than the dictatorships of the past, and so on.
Basically that it's progressive and compassionate, and that I was the cruel one for not supporting this, And for me, the really big light bulb moment for myself was the fact that I'm a colonel's daughter.
He served in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
He was at the site of 9-11 in the cleanup.
My dad taught me to love history and respect history.
But when it came to me finally being face to face with a communist young person, I had no idea what to say.
And so I figured a lot of my peers are probably going to be put in my shoes one day.
Where they're in this conversation, they have no idea how to defend their values because they weren't given a proper education.
And that inspired me to figure out how can I open my peers' eyes to the harsh truths of history?
And by that, the solution really is first-hand testimony, interviewing people who actually experienced it.
And what is the organization that you founded as a result of that experience with your roommate?
Yeah, so originally I started a non-profit called Young Americans Against Socialism, and we do a bunch from social educational content on apps like Facebook and Instagram and all the young people stuff, but now we're moving into these longer form interviews where we can truly document someone's entire life story of escaping communism, and of course then what it's like to live in America now versus their communist home country, and then are they seeing any similarities, and now actually I'm pretty excited.
We've been transitioning into also providing educational resources and booklets because we want to help out parents who are highly concerned about what's going on in the school system.
So we're trying to hit all the marks that we can.
Where will people be able to get hold of those educational resources?
So right now they're just online downloadable PDF forms that if you want to print out you can, but you can look at them on your screens.
And we actually released our first book last week and we had over 700 People between the ages of 20 and 50 download them, so we're pretty excited about it, and it was just our first one, so we're going to hopefully do many more.
But hopefully, maybe we can do some physical ones in the future.
Is this morganzeggers.com, or where do they go?
Oh, that's fightsocialism.org.
That's our nonprofit website.
All right, fightsocialism.org, let's put that up on her chyron as well, fightsocialism.org.
And tell us a little bit about your personal journey.
So somebody who is a patriot, whose father served this nation in uniform.
What was that journey like for you at the beginning to educate yourself?
What kinds of things did you learn that you were surprised at, that you hadn't been taught?
Tell us a little bit about that preparatory phase for you.
Well, so for me, the most shocking has been looking back at how I was taught about a lot of really radical and pretty recent changes that have happened in our country.
All things that have been normalized.
So what I mean by that is, for example, think of the Department of Education.
When I was in high school, we were taught that that's a very normal and fair concept.
But in reality, it's unconstitutional, and the federal government should not be having their heavy hand, their boot, over the necks of parents and schoolchildren and the actual local school districts.
That's what we're seeing now.
So if you think about these little things that are happening on a day-to-day basis, normalizing them, Now, what I always think about, too, is I graduated college in 2018.
My first year, though, was 2015.
That's not a time when this radical gender stuff was going on.
But nowadays, everybody has pronouns in their bio.
When I went to orientation and had my first semester of college, they actually taught us that, oh, what do you know?
The science has changed, and it turns out we need to let you guys know.
Sex and gender are actually completely different things, and it's important that you know this new finding that we have.
And I remember sitting there in my classroom like, well, this is really different, and that's not what I thought.
I mean, I thought they were interchangeable, basically.
And so they really re-educated us over the last 10 years or so to a lot of this new woke ideology, and they are normalizing it.
That's the concerning thing to me.
Alright guys, educate yourself.
If you've got children, if you're just exploring for the truth, if you're looking for those points of argumentation, the data points to help you.
For example, if you wind up with a roommate who's also a communist and thinks Mao Zedong, the person responsible for the death of at least 50 million of his fellow countrymen.
It's cool!
He's a good guy.
Well, educate yourself, avail yourselves of the useful tools this woman has put together.
Her website is morganzeggers.com.
You've got to listen to her show, The Morgan Zeggers Show.
You can follow her on Twitter, at Morgan Zeggers.
That's Z-E-G-E-R-S.
And if you want the documents that you can print off for yourself with this educational material, it's fightsocialism.org.
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We are back with my friend, my colleague, Morgan Zegers, who has started a video, audio history, a chronicle of those who are really warning America of what they lived through under socialism, under communism.
It's called the Freedom Records.
Everybody needs to see it, share it, and use what they learned there To help us prevent that occurring here.
Can you share with us that the top one or two, which of the interviews, who was it, where were they from, that kind of just, you know, you've been studying this for years now, but which of these interviews just hit you so hard that made you think, oh my gosh, this is so serious?
Yeah.
I mean, it's actually really difficult because for me, to be honest, I've never really had an interview job before.
It's never really been something that I've done.
And so to be in a situation where I'm interviewing people about some of the most traumatic moments of their life, it's a very humbling experience.
And so we've done about 20 total so far, and they're still getting released every month.
What really has struck me, we interviewed a couple women from communist China.
One of them was Jennifer Zhang.
I'm not sure if you are familiar with her, but she's very active on social media.
If you guys want to find her accounts, I can send you the links.
And her experiences, telling them to me on the interview, for example, are very somber.
There's a lot of crying.
There's a lot of sniffles and tissue breaks.
And so from the production standpoint, our team, I mean, the camera crew, They aren't even familiar with a lot of these topics.
We just hired a camera crew.
And so at the end of filming, they come to me and they're like, Morgan, we had no idea that any of this was going on.
And that's because most Americans have no idea that this is going on because our education system, our mainstream media, the institutions in our country, help Communist China perpetuate certain narratives.
So interviewing her about the breakup of her family, about her faith that she had that eventually led her to be put into a re-education camp where she is tortured.
And then if she's not tortured that day, sent to a slave labor camp that is built right next to the re-education camp, Well, I mean, it's really, really a tough situation to hear about.
That being said, here's my frustrating part, okay?
We interview her.
It's a first-hand testimony.
She eventually escapes the camp and makes it to America with the one goal of telling her story, like we're doing right now.
I put it on social media, but of course, big tech, they look at that kind of information where she's explaining how she's forced to do labor for American companies To sell American goods to American citizens.
And what do you know?
I get flagged for sharing false information by Big Tech.
And I'm told, your page is going to be shut down.
So that's another reason why we're looking for opportunities to not just be posting these things on social.
We're trying to do more stuff on our site and provide these actual booklets because it's a way to have direct communication with the students and the parents out there that want to hear this information, but we're being blocked.
And what they do is they cite these sources I kid you not, that say, well, China said they don't have slave labor camps.
So you can't be saying that on social media.
You're sharing misinformation.
It's just so troubling to me.
I try not to get frustrated, but it really does show who we're up against.
These are our dark forces.
Which platform censored that interview?
This was Facebook.
And their issue was the concept that communist China has slave labor camps.
They said that's disinformation.
Yes.
That's absolutely stunning.
Time and time again.
That's absolutely stunning.
Yeah.
And so I try and document it.
I screenshot it as much as possible.
But we are basically operating under the threat of being deleted just for interviewing people who can say with their own words, I escaped this camp.
Here is what I experienced.
No, no, no.
They have to cite sources.
That instead go by the word of Communist China.
So just in case anybody isn't aware, for example, my grandpa, he didn't realize how bad big tech censorship is.
He just figured it's another political talking point or whatever it was, until it happened to me, his granddaughter.
And he said, wait a second, why would Morgan be blocked for just doing interviews with survivors from communism?
So once people experience it firsthand, they can see how outrageous this really is.
I know these are faceless organizations where there's not even a phone number and a human being, but was there any recourse?
Did you take any action?
Was there any response to any action that you took based upon the censorship of your first-hand witness testimony from the regime?
Well, this is, you know, the ugly face of bureaucracy, of faceless people that can operate with a little too much power, right?
What we do is we get the warning, we get told that we shared misinformation, and we get the threat of having our page eliminated, or our reach, which is our ability to see, or for people to see this content, we get told that it's gonna be restricted.
And then it says, to learn more about this, or to challenge this, you can click this link here.
So we click the link, and guess what?
It brings you to a dead page.
Just a blank page that says error.
So it's very, very frustrating, but at the same time, it's good inspiration for us to remember who we're up against, what we're dealing with here.
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Okay, Morgan, let's go to the so what, the response, the how do we deal with the indoctrination that is occurring everywhere across America, not just in the colleges, but in the high schools.
Let's start with this.
I did a monologue yesterday on On the arrest of Sam Brinton, the Biden, the first transgender government official appointed by a president who was arrested for felony theft.
The Department of Energy's very peculiar head of spent atomic waste.
Then I combine that with the Balenciaga story, the pedophilic advertising, the drag queen story hours and everything else.
And my contention is the following.
All of these things are connected.
They're all connected because they're coming from the left.
These aren't random things.
You know, Sam Brinton being hired, left-wing school boards having pornographic pedophilic materials in the schools, the drag queen story hours, the Balenciaga campaign, ad campaign.
These aren't accidents because they're all coming from the left.
And the fact is, if you look at communist states, if you look at socialist states, the number one target isn't freedom and liberty of the individual.
The thing they have to destroy first is the family, because the family is not only the building block of civilization, the family is the last fortress.
It's the last keep against the ideology of Karl Marx and of communism.
So what do you think of my observation that none of these things are happening by accident, and it's because the family is the greatest threat to socialists?
Yeah.
I mean, in my opinion, in my evaluation of it, looking at all of history, the left operates and works generationally, and they are succeeding because they are winning by generation in terms of indoctrinating America's youth and separating America's youth from their parents. and they are succeeding because they are winning by generation Now,
Now, I would say the most frequent misconception that conservative, or even just, you know, in the middle of the road parents that love their kids, love this country—maybe they vote Democrat or Republican, whatever it may be—they just kind of like it here, and they don't have much to complain about, and they want to see this continue for future generations.
Very basic thing, right?
It's crazy to say these days.
So they think that perhaps the colleges have just gone crazy, and so they send their child to school, and maybe after a semester they get indoctrinated.
I go offstage after my speeches, especially to younger crowds and to crowds of parents, and I will have so many parents that say, Morgan, what do I do?
I sent my kid to college for a semester and they're already a Marxist.
How can I change this?
But in my view of it, this is not a situation where we should be blaming the higher institutions.
Instead, we need to look at the fact that from elementary school at least, we should be teaching children to understand free will.
Choice versus force and the role of government.
We need to develop a healthy distrust of institutions and government.
And then, instead of trusting government schools, public schools, to teach our kids about important things like history and philosophy and human nature and government, civics, finance, economics, all the important stuff, we should be probably talking to our own kids about that and creating a foundation.
Because the public school system is not doing that.
So what happens is you have these kids that graduate high school with no real world understanding.
They go to college where they meet crazy Marxist professors and that's when really bad stuff starts to happen and they come home with pink hair, right?
So we need to consider this to be a longer timeline of how to actually raise up our kids.
And that's why I think we're also seeing the connection to children that you mentioned.
They are attacking a very important thing in society.
Children's innocence.
That's with the sexualization of kids.
That's with Bringing them to drag story hours or whatever they're called.
That's with bringing in race-based curriculum into elementary schools.
That's with asking them to bring their pronouns into the conversation when they're in still through K through 5 grades.
When you look at this, it's adults trying to bring inappropriate content into the minds of young children and they have no respect for childhood innocence.
I think we need to start having more of these conversations because It's not just us screaming, pedophiles, pedophiles, there's pedophiles everywhere in Hollywood and big tech everywhere.
No, I think that this is happening from all angles because it's a complete abandonment of respecting childhood innocence.
And if we come to an agreement on that, perhaps we can move forward in a healthier way.
Why do you put the focus on that word?
Why is it important that children have that innocence?
I'm just being the, you know, asking the rhetorical question.
Well, I think it's really basic.
If you think about it, what is the point of raising up a child?
When you have adults and kids and you're raising up babies to become members of society, it's because they don't know anything.
Adults are supposed to teach children how the world works, what the world even is, what their role in this society is going to be, what it is right now, and what roles they'll take on in the future.
So you can look at this from so many different angles.
I see it too as like, you don't talk to young boys and girls these days and say, Hey kids, one day you're going to get the amazing experience of getting to get a job for men.
I specifically believe that we need to get a little more traditional with this, but you're going to be able to grow a life one day, find a husband or a wife, have children, parent those children, and it's going to be a wonderful experience.
Instead, they look at kids and they say, Hey, live it up while you can, because once it's time to settle down, your life is basically over.
So we need to talk more about human experiences and why we should champion responsibility and roles in society.
And with that, respecting roles is respecting innocence and childhood, where adults with expertise, with experience, maturity, they give that.
They give that ability and that learning experience to younger minds that just don't have it yet.
Very basic concept that these weird lefties on the Absolutely.
I think it's also deeper than that.
I think it's if you can normalize the abnormal with a child, then you justify your own lifestyle if you have a perverted lifestyle.
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Alright, let's go to the so what.
Let's go to the response.
You've been doing this for four years now.
Look, I'm biased, of course.
I have my baggage.
My parents escaped communism.
My father was a political prisoner who was actually liberated by freedom fighters from a political prison.
He'd worked in a prison coal mine, so my take's a little bit obvious, I guess.
I mean, my dad taught me how to shoot as soon as I could pick up a gun, so I could protect my liberty and my family's liberty.
What has worked for you?
Because to me, dealing with the indoctrinated should be obvious.
It should be just a statement of common sense.
Hey, can you name me one nation that actually has equality, where socialism worked, where you didn't end up with death camps?
I'll wait, because I know there's been 40 nations that tried it, and 100 million people were killed.
I'm not trying to be facetious, but the level of indoctrination Yeah, of course.
Well, that's the really frustrating thing, right?
the trade or tell us just how hard it's been for you in the last few years.
Yeah, of course.
Well, that's the really frustrating thing, right?
For a very long time, conservatives had we've had facts, logic, statistics, history, common All the really important stuff on our side, but the left is able to make a very emotional case.
Now, what they always like to fall for is this claim that it's actually the people owning and controlling the economy instead of the evil businesses, the evil corporations, the evil, greedy CEOs, etc.
And so what we're doing, and this is going to be an available book on our site soon, but we're providing a walkthrough of here are some basic concepts that You need to talk to your child about first before they're going to be able to understand socialism, free market economics, etc.
And some of those things include something as simple as choice versus force when it comes to a relationship between people and the government.
And so breaking down certain things like, hey, did you know that this is just wordplay?
When socialism is implemented, it means the government is in charge of the economy and all the businesses, all the industries, they just say they're running it in the name of the people.
That alone, I kid you not, because the indoctrination is so surface level in these young people, blows their mind.
They had no idea.
They truly thought maybe all the people just came together and got to own everything and work together in this kumbaya utopia.
Another really important thing in this choice versus force conversation is the fact that socialism isn't just bad.
Because, oh, you know, it's high taxes and it's really expensive and the options are limited at the supermarket aisle.
No.
What's happening here is you're giving the government full control over very important necessities, very important basic goods and services in society that a human needs to live.
So when the government becomes the only provider of these things, kids, what do you think will happen?
Oh, history shows us they then hold these things over the heads of the people and say you're not going to receive them, whether it's groceries, an automobile, the ability to travel in the country, your health care, your retirement, an employment, a job, pension after you're done, or even housing.
You're not going to get these things unless you comply with what the government asks you to do.
It's not an ask.
They're just making it seem like a choice.
So walking them through what happens beyond those initial economic conversations, where you see the actual freedom of individuals be removed from them, that is really a game changer.
I promise you guys, the school system is keeping it very surface level with emotional language.
I believe that American kids, American millennials, Gen Z, the generation after that, they are capable of bringing common sense to this if somebody will just take the time to walk them through it in an honest way.
There's no need to make fun of them.
In fact, they would actually probably be on our side if they weren't falling victim to the left's narrative.
So please bring that compassion to the conversation and understand that they've just been lied to for a very long time, okay?
I think that we can really have a path forward with this, with conversation.
What is your response to those kids who say, oh, but it works in Europe because Denmark and Sweden and Norway, which are hyper capitalist nations that just have built welfare nets based upon, you know, the money they made with North Sea oil and with former colonial holdings.
What do you say to them when they say, hey, look, communism or socialism works?
Yeah, I mean, that's a really simple one.
And I get this a lot when I speak on college campuses.
You basically ask them, listen, do you want the government to seize the means of production?
Do you want to implement economic socialism?
Or do you want to end up like Nordic Europe?
Because you can't have both.
What countries like Venezuela did, what actual socialist countries do, is the government takes over the industries and an economy.
What they do in Nordic Europe, they have market economies, and then the government has just created huge welfare programs.
And you can walk them through as well why welfare programs in social democracies like Nordic Europe are just as dangerous in many ways, because it creates that dependency on the government that over time will become more dangerous, just like socialism is.
But you can walk them through easily how those are very different things.
Now, part of this is the fact that, listen, a lot of American parents don't even know what to say, right?
They don't even know this stuff.
It's all so confusing at this point.
So, we have to keep in mind, we're not just trying to message to young people.
We're trying to reach all the people out there, educators, parents, and then, of course, those younger generations that rely on adults to explain how the world works.
All right, you can get the materials at fightsocialism.org.
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Also, where can they listen, where can they watch the Freedom Records, the interviews of the survivors?
So that'll be at fightsocialism.org, or you can type in thefreedomrecords.com and it'll go right to the show.
But thank you.
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All right, Morgan, I'm going to ask the big question.
I know you're young, so there should be only one answer to this question, but given all the things you've documented in your interviews, I don't know if I'm going to get the right answer.
When you look at the level of indoctrination, When you look at the polling that more than 60% of young Americans would prefer to live in a socialist or communist America, are you an optimist about your fight against socialism?
Do you think we can win?
Can we deprogram at least a one, if not two generations of Americans from believing that Karl Marx isn't a mass murderer, but is actually going to bring equality to the world?
I'm going to be honest with you.
This is quite a daunting task that everybody is currently facing.
And I personally believe that this is going to take multiple generations.
This isn't going to be fixed with one election cycle.
This is going to take quite an effort.
I hope people understand how serious the threat that we are facing is.
I will say, though, what I'm optimistic about is that our founders looked at every instance of human history, where humans tried representative government, where it failed, why it failed, and they gave us a decentralized constitutional republic for a reason.
So, that really gives us a fighting chance compared to any other situation where this has been attempted in human history.
So, I feel good about that.
I will say, though, I am concerned at how—I don't want to say lazy, but how complacent so many Americans are today with the way the world currently works here in our country.
So, I encourage people to take control over their own lives, be self-reliant, and never trust the government to educate your children about the government.
We need to be raising them with a healthy distrust of these institutions.
And if we take control from the government in this way, when it comes to educating our babies, I think we'll be in a solid generational path to victory. - Are you encouraged by the bravery of young Chinese students on the streets of communist China today? - Of course I am, I think we'll be in a solid generational path to victory. - Are you encouraged by the Of course I am, but I'm also highly worried about them.
Let's be honest.
We are living with unprecedented levels of surveillance and tech, and so I'm highly concerned for them.
And we know what happened with Tiananmen Square massacre.
We saw what happened with the Hong Kong protesters.
Actually, the Freedom Records, our next episode is going to be with the first woman to get asylum in America who escaped Hong Kong.
So if she ever went there, she would probably not get out of that situation.
She is going to be in America for her life.
I'm highly concerned because I know how humans usually behave.
I know how communists act and I pray for them for sure.
I'm very thankful for the example that they're setting.
Well, God bless you, Morgan, for doing what you do.
You've done more in a few years than most have done in a lifetime to fight the scourge of communism.
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