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Nov. 17, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Pelosi's Finally on her Way Out

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	All of the detractors that we're listening, that we see right now this morning, are the same detractors that we heard seven years ago when he announced the last time.
	And they were wrong then, and they're wrong now.
	And the reason they talk about all of the things that they want to talk about with Donald Trump is because they're still terrified of addressing the issues that Donald Trump wants to talk about.
	And these are issues that 60, 70, 80 percent of the American population cares about.
	And politicians in Washington, they don't have an answer for it.
	That's a very significant soundbite from our buddy Charlie Hurt.
	Welcome, friends.
	You're listening to America First.
	I'm your host, Sebastian Gorka.
	That's a man who, you know, there are some people who don't have the requisite recognition.
	I don't mean, you know, the Washington Swamp or being a star, but just recognition for the quality of their work and their analysis.
	And Charlie Hurt, I don't know, guys, are you out there somebody who's got a TV platform or a radio platform, a podcast platform.
	Charlie Hert would be an excellent, excellent catch.
	He's absolutely right.
	The reason they hated Donald Trump seven years ago is the reason they hate him today.
	Just listen to one more hit.
	That was what?
	Cut 9, Eric?
	Was that Cut 9?
	Let's go to Cut 10.
	And, you know, my biggest problem with these people in Washington, like Mitch McConnell, is that they are always trying to blame Donald Trump for all of their failures.
	Their failures go back way before Donald Trump.
	How did they get through the day before Donald Trump came along for them to blame him for everything?
	It's ridiculous.
	And so when they try to shift blame on Donald Trump for all of their failures in this last election, it's just, it's kind of ridiculous.
	And it's a reminder that these people never pay a price.
	Have they ever paid a price?
	Has Richard Connell ever paid a price for not winning a Senate election since he became the leader in 2008?
	What about Kevin McCarthy?
	What about Rona McDaniel?
	It is Rona McDaniel's job to make sure the RNC runs elections properly, has lawyers in place to challenge when things are suspicious.
	She celebrated the results of the midterm.
	It's sheer insanity.
	Now, two things I'm going to just do right now is, first, Jeff made a really interesting comment in our pre-production show that kind of hits the nail on the head, this whole debate on candidates and who won and who lost and who's to blame.
	What did you say about the candidates issue in the midterms?
	What was your observation that I want everybody to hear?
	Yeah, we've been done with politicians forever now.
	And look at the guys that they're talking about.
	Herschel Walker in Georgia, Dr. Oz, Blake Masters, Kerry Lake.
	None of them are politicians.
	That's what we wanted.
	I would rather lose with them than get some swamp creature in there.
	Because their argument is, it's the amateurs that lost.
	But the whole point is, we don't want professional politicians.
	Exactly, because if you win with them, you are actually winning something.
	It's not going to be the same Mitch McConnell do nothing.
	Okay.
	Jeff, as usual, nailed it.
	Again, a little bit random here because it's the beginning of the show and I was very remiss yesterday.
	We did three hours of radio and I forgot to mention one news item that I tweeted out instantly when I heard it in the morning and we just didn't get to it.
	It is now 22.
	22 sheriff's cadets from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Academy who were hit by a driver yesterday in the morning as they were on their PT run.
	Five of them are in critical condition.
	The driver has been arrested.
	You don't hit 22 people by accident, I don't think.
	So there is a political motivation or terrorist motivation very likely behind it.
	We will get to that as soon as we have more information.
	But I want everybody, all 3 million of you right now, who are listening, I want you to keep these people in your prayers.
	22 cadets!
	They hadn't even been sworn in as officers, as deputies.
	Five are in critical condition because of a man who plowed his vehicle into them as they were doing their morning PT.
	There is a war on the police.
	And the question is, will the Democrats, the defund-the-police Democrats, distance themselves from any of this?
	Okay.
	There's one issue I've been cogitating on, whether I broach with you.
	And if you don't like what I'm about to say, if you think it's soft or it's unrealistic, I don't care.
	Because I want to open up a little bit.
	I want to give you a peek behind the curtain of Sebastian Walker.
	There's an issue with my former boss.
	That may not be hard-bitten, cynical, or political, but it matters to me.
	And it's the question of loyalty.
	Loyalty matters.
	Think of all the people who served with me, at my rank, or even above my rank, who came in, who agreed to work for a man elected by 64 million Americans, Took a paycheck from you because, yeah, that's who pays your salary if you're a deputy assistant or an assistant to the president.
	You pay for us.
	You're a federal employee.
	And then behind his back, cast him out, made fun of him, were fired or left under various circumstances, and then just dissed, made stuff up.
	Whatever happened to those tapes, Omarosa?
	Do you remember Omarosa?
	I've got tapes!
	Trump's a racist!
	I'm gonna release them!
	Hey Jeff, how long ago was it that Omarosa made that thread about she's got the evidence about Trump being a racist?
	It's at least five years.
	Yeah, you'd think that she would have published them by now, no?
	Maybe she's just waiting.
	Or Scaramucci!
	The man who spent nine... Was it nine days he was in the office, Jeff?
	Eric says it was ten.
	Ten days.
	Right, we'll say nine and a half.
	We'll split the difference.
	And Scaramucci who said, Trump is the greatest thing ever!
	And then when he was fired he said, he's a threat to democracy and I'm gonna bet against him.
	I'm not talking about a personality cult.
	I'm not talking about blind loyalty.
	I'm talking about honor.
	There's a big thing, there's a big document on my wall in my kitchen at home.
	Jeff's seen it.
	It's on thick kind of parchment.
	It came in a roll after I left the White House.
	And it's written in very fine calligraphy.
	And it says, Sebastian Gorka of Virginia.
	And it's signed by the Secretary of State and by the President of the United States.
	And it's got a big embossed gold seal on it.
	And that's my commissioning document.
	Because when I became a deputy to the president, I became a politically commissioned officer of the White House.
	Call me old-fashioned, guys.
	That means something to me.
	Why does it mean something to me?
	Because of what that man did for me, and you, and all Americans, irrespective of whether they voted for him.
	What he has put up with.
	The attacks on him, his family, his home being raided.
	He deserves a modicum of support just because of that.
	So I want to have a primary.
	Everybody wants to run, run.
	You won't believe what H.R.
	Hutchinson said.
	But one man who's got my support is a man who didn't have to be president, didn't have to run again.
	But he's proved himself already.
	And for me, loyalty matters.
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	I'm just going to be chair dancing for two hours.
	All right. - Do do do do.
	Doot doot.
	So, oh, as a congressman now?
	Uh, yeah.
	Yeah, alright, so I'll have the mics off when you show up.
	And you got the photograph?
	of the three of you, yes.
	Showing a preview for me, Guy, please.
	Expression 2.
	Fodegraaf, Fodegraaf.
	You can show it on the screen for him.
	There it is.
	Yes, look at that.
	How is it you're the one without a cigar?
	I know, because I bloody forgot!
	And Nels only had two cigars.
	I was gutted.
	And then Madison, as we're getting into the car, and he smoked less than half of it, and he throws it in the bushes at Mar-a-Lago.
	And then when Troy found out, he said, dude, that's a $14 stick!
	Oh my goodness gracious.
	Play cut six.
	Cut six, playback one, go ahead guy.
	Another thing that I'd like to address is that the same folks who tell us and told us that COVID's just a flu, that climate change isn't real, that January 6th was nothing but a tourist visit, are the same, are now trying to tell us that transgender people are not real.
	Those things are true, though!
	Geoff, Geoff.
	Cassio has to post that now.
	Alright, Cassio has to post that crap now.
	That's too funny.
	Alright, um... Then... Cut five.
	Cassio, do you trust and do you believe McCarthy?
	And then, AOC, what's with AOC's new glasses?
	Hello, America First.
	I think we're about to have him on the line.
	You can kill the mics of the video feed.
	Thank you.
	That's play cut one, I believe.
	I haven't done any of the reads.
	Um, um,
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	We are back from our trip to Mar-a-Lago.
	It was quite stupendous.
	Almost a thousand people in the ballroom.
	And as I'm flying down there, you know, no private jets for me.
	I'm not Nancy Pelosi.
	Who do I see at the airport, busily working away?
	None other than Congressman Troy Nells.
	And then up rolls our buddy, Madison Cawthorn.
	We spent the whole night together.
	There we are.
	They had cigars.
	I didn't have a cigar.
	I forgot my cigars.
	And it was quite an evening and we are delighted to have with us Sheriff Troy Nels!
	Sam, it's good to be with you folks.
	You got to understand, 2007 and I, we were at the back of the bus.
	We were at the back of the plane.
	We aren't up front enjoying all the luxuries up there.
	We're in the back of the plane with everybody else.
	But I tell you, what a fantastic time it was, wasn't it?
	It was an amazing time.
	And just to see you in action, because I had a little mess up with my travel arrangements.
	I thought I had a hotel.
	in West Palm Beach.
	I didn't.
	And then you had a room and I said, hey, hey, does your hotel have any rooms?
	And you helped me out.
	And then all the restaurants were closed.
	And I saw you in action because you didn't go to some fancy steakhouse.
	You didn't go to Morton's.
	You ordered some chicken wings to your hotel room.
	I gotta ask you, because I had to leave.
	How were the chicken wings, Congressman?
	The chicken wings are excellent.
	The french fries are cold.
	I asked for a Sprite and she brought me a Coke.
	But she still got one hell of a tip.
	It was midnight.
	Remember Seb?
	It was midnight.
	It was!
	You had dinner at midnight.
	Just a little warning for anybody out there in the service industry.
	Anybody who has a restaurant.
	Just put this down.
	If this guy's in your neck of the woods, if Texas's 22nd Congressional District Congressman Sheriff Troy Nels, you gotta know, dude, he's a big tipper.
	So look after Congressman Nels.
	All right, let's get serious.
	Had a lot of fun.
	What's happening back here?
	You're on your phone, you're getting updates.
	36 people refuse to support Kevin McCarthy.
	Is he going to be the Speaker of the House?
	And why?
	Are so few people standing up for the man who got 74 million votes, my former boss, President Trump, out of the Republican caucus?
	Well, there's two questions.
	Number one, the 36 against McCarthy is going to be the speaker.
	I just, I believe that McCarthy is going to be the speaker.
	The American people are going to give us the gavel.
	McCarthy is going to be the speaker, but then we must hold him accountable.
	We must hold the leadership team accountable.
	But that's going to happen.
	As it relates to President Trump, I know you're a big supporter of Trump.
	I've always been on the Trump team.
	I was immediately endorsed him, and I'm excited about it because I believe that he is the leader of our party.
	When you look at his policies, what he did in his four years, incredible work.
	And his speech!
	You got the left out there saying his speech, he was somewhat boring.
	The left hated his speech because he stayed on script, right?
	He stayed on script.
	He didn't get too emotional.
	There were very few name calling and he was presidential.
	I thought it was fabulous.
	And if he delivers this type of message for the next two years, he's going to be the 47th president and the left hates it.
	I'm confused.
	Can you help me out, Sheriff?
	I'm confused because I thought we were told that this guy is like, you know, Beelzebub.
	He's a Nazi.
	He's Hitler reincarnated.
	But then they said his speech was low energy.
	Which is he?
	Is he boring or is he the devil?
	I'm confused.
	Yeah, Sam, you were there, I was there, 500 people were there.
	It was electric in that room.
	Low energy?
	No, that's what they're going to try to say to get him all spun up and pumped up.
	But we know, we were there, buddy.
	He was so presidential.
	He had that beautiful...
	The family was there.
	Everybody was smiling.
	Everybody was excited.
	Oh my gosh, guys.
	It was fantastic.
	If you haven't seen this, as soon as we're off with the congressman, I'm going to repost it on all my social media.
	Melania's face, when she got up on stage, I have never seen.
	She was beaming.
	She was so happy.
	All the love in the room, the standing ovation, President Trump running again.
	You gotta check out how Melania was looking.
	I promise you, in literally 4 minutes and 18 seconds, I will post that photograph.
	But let's get back to business.
	Congressman, please follow this man, Rep Troy Nells, N-E-H-L-S, on Twitter.
	That's Rep Troy Nells, N-E-H-L-S.
	Congressman, A lot of good guys, myself included, are worried.
	It's a handful of people who've endorsed the President.
	It's the usual suspects, the good guys, you, Elise Stefanik.
	Matt Gaetz is going to be on my Newsmax show on Sunday.
	We don't have high hopes for the House.
	Are they going to get serious?
	Are they going to get rid of the Marquis of Queensbury rulebook?
	Are we going to have serious investigation subpoenas?
	Or is it just going to be milquetoast garbage as usual?
	Well, I think Kevin McCarthy, I've said it, others have said it, and we've let him know that, listen, every decision we make now here, starting in January, when we have the gavel of the House, obviously the Speaker and all these committees and subcommittees, Every decision we make should be in the best interest of 2024.
	We gotta get the White House back.
	We see how dangerous and how ruthless this president is, and how weak he is.
	We see crisis on every corner, not only in our country but across the globe, because he demonstrates weakness and he's very forgetful.
	So we need to make decisions that give the American people confidence in our leadership, Alright, good stuff.
	leadership so we can get the White House back in 2024.
	And that's what I would recommend to the leader.
	All right.
	Good stuff.
	Sir, can we get you in studio next time for a longer chat?
	We can, but I'm going to go home.
	I can't wait.
	Next week I'm going to have some great Thanksgiving.
	My turkey's going to taste better because Nancy's going to get on a plane.
	She's going to have to go to Italy, buddy.
	She's going to go be the ambassador over there in Italy.
	I'll pay for her first class ticket.
	Let's get her out of here.
	Hey, you pay for the first class ticket.
	I'll pay for the chicken wings.
	Got a deal?
	There you go, Seb.
	God bless you.
	God bless all your listeners.
	All right.
	Thank you, sir.
	At Rep Troy Nels, I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	The call board is absolutely full.
	Let's squeeze in one call.
	Let's go to our good buddy Judy in Brooklyn, line two.
	Hey, how much time do I have?
	More than usual.
	So have fun.
	Oh, good.
	Oh, thank you so much.
	First of all, I saw you.
	I saw you.
	You were great.
	Listen.
	Unfortunately, when I heard this woman yesterday, she was the aunt of this poor young man who hung himself.
	I was beside myself.
	I was so upset.
	And then they wanted to call him a terrorist.
	Well, let me tell you, Dr. Gorka, the real terrorists out there are the DOJ.
	They are the political DOJ, the FBI, the 87,000.
	These are the real terrorists.
	We have real terrorists in our midst.
	And this is from the Biden administration that we have here.
	So moving on, I want to tell you something else.
	There's a formula or a theorem in geometry, whatever.
	And this is the formula that I want to tell you.
	Success and experience trumps experiments.
	What I mean is... Yes, I get it.
	Say it again.
	Say it again.
	Okay.
	Success and experience trumps experiments, which means Trump was successful for four years.
	There's no arguing about that.
	Why in the world?
	And he has the experience.
	He's got his-- he knows that.
	He's got all the connections.
	Why would we risk on all the newbies, even what's his name, the Santos, who have never been a president, never proved himself to do the kind of job, complex job, that Trump has proven himself?
	But let me move on real quick.
	When they say, Oh, Trump has horrible tweets and whatever, let me tell you something.
	He was the most successful president and action speaks louder than words.
	That's very important.
	Okay.
	And one more thing.
	I call this Trumpism versus Marxism and Communism.
	That's what it's all about.
	It's beyond Trump.
	This is Trumpism.
	We're out of time, but I love this.
	Success and experience.
	Trump's experiments.
	That's Judy.
	She's great.
	Back after these messages.
	Mic's on.
	There we go.
	Mic's on.
	Okay.
	And, uh, 11 and 12, please.
	11 and 12.
	Go ahead.
	One thing I did not expect was the universal review of his speech.
	Boring!
	And it's true, he seems disinterested, low energy, and frankly spent.
	That mob's gonna have to change their chant to, Wake him up!
	Wake him up!
	Wait.
	Maybe iron him.
	Are you potentially one of those alternatives?
	Absolutely.
	I'm looking at it, looking at it very seriously.
	After the midterm elections, it's more intense and it's an accelerated review.
	And after going to Iowa, I'm encouraged that a governor who's actually solved problems, who has a conservative, common-sense approach, can draw support and can be a good alternative.
	So I'm encouraged by it.
	Probably looking at January for a decision point.
	What problems has he actually solved?
	Just being serious.
	I just don't believe these people.
	I just... I know.
	Does he just make a lot of money out of it?
	I just... I don't know.
	Play me cut three.
	Cut three...
	Now more than ever, we're short of workers.
	We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to.
	The only way we're going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the dreamers, and all of them.
	Because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers, but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or however many undocumented there are here.
	Wow.
	Again, I don't understand this argument, like, oh, we have to have a maximum population at all times.
	I don't get it.
	Cut, cut, come in with that.
	Oil's on the line.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Matt!
	What's up, Dodger G?
	How we doing?
	Doing great, how are you?
	Good, good.
	You were very spick and span, very smart on Tuesday night.
	Oh yeah, it was a great night, I thought, so.
	Did you have fun?
	I had a blast.
	Good.
	Alright, we're gonna come in with a cut from Schumer, and then I'm gonna come to you.
	Okay, sounds great.
	The Press: -- titles.
	Okay.
	President Trump and loyalty.
	And the question of loyalty.
	Alright.
	Nels?
	Maybe something funny, like chicken wings?
	Yeah.
	The biggest tipper in Congress, from Troynells.
	Sheriff Troynells.
	Uh-huh.
	And Colonel Kay?
	Um... He had a phrase... What did I write there?
	Soft fascism?
	Uh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	It was, um... Gosh, where did I put it?
	it.
	35.
	I'll find it.
	Alright, coming in with cut three, no liner Alex.
	All right.
	Now more than ever, we're short of workers.
	We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to.
	The only way we're going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the dreamers, and all of them.
	Because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers, but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or however many undocumented there are here.
	I'm confused.
	Hey, is Jeff there?
	Jeff, when Tucker Carlson says that on his show, doesn't the left go insane and that's a racist replacement theory?
	Yeah, white supremacists, all that.
	So is Chuck Schumer a white supremacist now?
	It's at least misinformation.
	I'm confused.
	Chuck Schumer said the choir bit out loud.
	We're going to amnesty.
	What is it?
	Did you hear that?
	Whatever it is.
	11 million, 20 million, 30 million.
	Is he going to pay a penalty for that?
	We'll ask our next guest.
	But first things first, please, please, please, please tell me.
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	So much more to discuss.
	He is the Washington Bureau Chief for the most influential conservative news site on the planet.
	It's brightbutt.com.
	And he's Matt Boyle.
	Matt, welcome back.
	Dr. G, always a pleasure.
	Thanks for having me.
	So I bumped into you almost as soon as I walked into the ballroom on Tuesday night at Mar-a-Lago.
	How fun was that?
	I mean, it was a historic night, right?
	How often do you get to see a former president of the United States announce that he's running again?
	This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
	Most people, they run their two terms or they run twice or whatever.
	The circumstances of this are just really incredible.
	I think he's obviously the frontrunner starting this whole race.
	I don't know if he's going to face a real challenge from anybody or not, however it shakes out, but it was a historic night to be there and to see this all begin.
	It was really incredible.
	By the way, as for the Schumer thing that you were playing there, Yeah, so on the Schumer thing, I thought the biggest thing in that is that he's admitting now that it's not just 11 million.
	They've been saying for 30 years that it's 11 million.
	He's now admitting that, oh, however many it is, right?
	Like we've been saying for 15 years.
	I remember Ann Coulter did a book 10 years ago when they were doing the Gang of Eight amnesty plan.
	And she came out with this book and she laid out how it's 30 million, maybe 40, at least in America, for illegal aliens.
	This is when they were using the 11 million number, which they had been using for 15 years before that.
	Finally, Chuck Schumer admits that it's way more than 11 million.
	Now does a soundbite like that actually matter?
	Because really, you know, that's what they've been denying for so long.
	That's what they, you know, say Tucker Carlson is a conspiracy theorist for when he says that on his show.
	Does this have negative consequences?
	Does it have positive consequences with the base?
	How does this shake out?
	Does that statement from Schumer matter politically?
	I think it matters a great deal because, look, at the end of the day we're journalists and what we want to do is we want to show people what they really think, what these leaders really think, and I think that this was a window into what Chuck Schumer, who is the Senate majority leader right now and will be again next year because of the way the midterms shook out, what he really thinks about this policy, right?
	So the fact of the matter is that When you start to see them, I'm a fan of them talking more.
	I want to hear more about what they have to say and what it is that they believe, because I think that the more that you can see, the more people can see just how crazy and insane they are and just how right we are, right?
	Like, so, you know, when President Trump is warning about the migration policies and the radical left and their open borders vision, You know, sometimes the left will just shout back, oh, that's a conspiracy theory.
	Or, you know, you mentioned when Tucker talks about it, you know, that's a conspiracy theory.
	No, we now know because we can hear them directly talking about it.
	So the more they talk about it, the better, in my opinion.
	Yeah, absolutely.
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	Well, let's talk about Nancy at the break.
	Oh, you want to keep me on?
	Do you mind?
	Yeah, yeah, no, I can do it, so no worries.
	All right.
	I'm going to send you a photograph.
	All right.
	- Yeah, Rick.
	From Mar-a-Lago.
	Mar-a-Lago.
	222, where is it?
	Here we go, here we go, here we go.
	We're gonna find it.
	We're gonna find it.
	Okay.
	Alright, if you can make a buffer from that for this segment, I would be most grateful.
	Working on it.
	That was kind of cool that Ned Ryan was right there with us too, right?
	Because it was kind of like a reunion of our pre-election Newsmax panel.
	Yeah, I'm going to show exactly that photograph right now.
	You sound like you got a bit of a cold.
	I do, I do.
	I'm gonna take some zinc.
	A couple more days.
	That's the plan.
	My mom keeps telling me to take zinc.
	All right, we've got Ray on the line.
	Ray, Greg and David.
	All right, I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions and I'll go to calls.
	Okay.
	We'll be quick.
	Cool.
	Oh, do we have?
	Yes.
	T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T.
	Come in with cut one.
	Cut.
	Today's cut one.
	Oh yeah, Pelosi.
	Okay.
	Um, and yeah, I have the, oh yeah, I have the picture of you and, well, yep.
	All right.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's crazy.
	My little old tweet that I sent out today.
	Yeah.
	What about a Trump presidency with Carrie Lakers' Veep and Ron DeSantis' AG?
	Uh huh.
	17,000 likes.
	That's pretty good.
	Guess you touched a nerve there.
	Whoa, that's cray-cray.
	You said come in with cut one?
	Yeah, please.
	All righty.
	Coming in with Nancy.
	The line that should have gotten the most applause of the whole speech.
	Yeah.
	All righty.
	No liner, Alex.
	All righty.
	40 seconds. 30. 30
	seconds.
	30 seconds.
	There is no greater official honor for me than to stand on this floor and to speak for the people of San Francisco.
	This I will continue to do as a member of the House, speaking for the people of San Francisco, serving the great state of California, and defending our Constitution.
	And with great confidence in our caucus, I will not seek re-election to Democratic leadership in the next Congress.
	It's because we fired you, Nancy.
	I thought she didn't believe the polls.
	Didn't she say to Andrew Mitchell, I don't believe the polls we're going to win.
	That is a statement that should have received a solid round of applause.
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	He is the Washington Bureau Chief of Breitbart.
	Matt, what's going on?
	What's the latest you're hearing?
	Because I thought she was going to go off to be ambassador to Italy.
	Now I've heard they're going to give that to some big liberal donor.
	Is Nancy really going to stay in the swamp?
	Yeah, look, she said so herself on the floor of the House today.
	She fully intends to stick around as a member of Congress from San Francisco, at least to begin the new Congress.
	And one would assume from the back bench, try to help Hakeem Jeffries, who they are seemingly anointing as the heir apparent and future Democrat leader.
	It's worth noting that the Democrat leader in the next Congress will be the minority leader, not the speaker of the House, not the majority leader.
	The Democrats are in the minority.
	They lost the majority in November's midterm elections.
	Now, it was also extremely close.
	It should not have been this close, and that's because a lot of establishment Republicans phoned it in in the final weeks of this election.
	As you can tell, I have a cold right now.
	I worked my, you know what, off all the way through Election Day, as did many of us out here, and were kind of disappointed in the Republican establishment for, yet again, another disappointing election.
	The Senate was within reach, but Mitch McConnell was, you know, screwing around in Alaska, rather than putting ads on the air in Arizona and New Hampshire.
	Frankly, the Republicans in the House were not working as hard as they should have been, and there's a bunch of districts that were very close that probably could have went either way, and that Republicans could have fought just a little bit harder for.
	However, the Republicans do have the majority, so that's a big step in the right direction.
	All right, so here's the question, and then we're going to let you go off and take some zinc, because we need you fine and fit as a fiddle.
	Thirty-six Republicans refused to vote for Kevin McCarthy.
	Is he a lock-in?
	Is he going to be the Speaker?
	I think he's gonna get there.
	We'll see how it shakes out.
	He's gonna get 218 votes on the floor.
	I think most of those ones are gonna vote for him.
	They were voting because there was another Republican running against him.
	When the vote comes down on the floor, it's a Republican nominee.
	versus a Democrat nominee.
	And then if McCarthy doesn't get to the 218, then things get a little bit hanky.
	And that's when, and this is going on right now, the establishment Republicans, Congressman Don Bacon, who's one of them, is public about this.
	They're open to negotiating a deal right now with Democrats to nominate what they would call a Republican alternative to McCarthy, in which the Republican alternative would have Democrat votes come in and push them over the top.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Give me that name again.
	Who is that Republican scumbag?
	Don Bacon.
	Don Bacon from Nebraska.
	He's a very establishment guy.
	Now here's the problem.
	If that happens, then what the Democrats would exchange to do that, what they would get in exchange is these establishment Republicans would hand over the authority, a veto basically, to the Democrat minority on subpoenas being issued.
	So it's very important.
	I get it that people have their differences with Kevin McCarthy.
	But here's the deal.
	If you want those subpoenas going into the Biden administration, you just heard today, James Comer, the oversight chairman coming in announcing that about the investigations of the Biden family.
	McCarthy's got to be the guy because if he if he goes down, then that scenario opens itself up.
	And that's very dangerous.
	Absolutely outrageous.
	We're going to look into this person.
	Incredible.
	Incredible.
	Don Bacon, Nebraska, 2nd District.
	Thank you, Matt Boyle.
	Follow him on Truth Social at RealMattBoyle.
	Put the photograph up for Mar-a-Lago.
	So much fun.
	There I am with Matt, with Ned Ryan, and with a certain person called Carpe Dongtum.
	What a great night it was.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Let's go to your calls.
	We missed him last time.
	Line 5 from Liverpool.
	Ray!
	Thank you for taking the call.
	Sure.
	Hey, you opened up with a segment talking about loyalty, but like other callers on the show, we get distracted fast with all the topics.
	I have to chime in about Nancy.
	Isn't it ironic?
	Isn't the juxtaposition of Paul Pelosi grasping for a hammer At the same time, Nancy is losing her hammer.
	Oh, that is good.
	The hammer to gavel transition.
	Dude, you are on fire today.
	All right.
	We've got a minute before we have to hit one of our commercials.
	What is the reaction to the loyalty monologue?
	You were talking about loyalty.
	Mitch McConnell was just reappointed as the leader of the Senate.
	What happened there is not the same as what you were talking about.
	That was by threat and intimidation.
	What you're talking about is loyalty to someone who's genuine, someone who's authentic, a leader.
	Leaders don't have to order people to follow them.
	People willingly, men want to follow strong leadership.
	You want to rally behind a man who shows leadership characteristics.
	Mitch McConnell does not have any leadership characteristics.
	Joe Biden has no leadership characteristics.
	Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, none of them are leaders.
	They're all petty tyrants.
	And by threat and intimidation, they get people to line up behind them.
	So I just wanted to, you said that I believe That Trump is authentic.
	I think he's genuine.
	I think you're authentic, Dr. G. We've met in person before, but I only know you through the radio, and I think you're the real deal, my friend.
	You are authentic.
	You're genuine, you're brave, and you're a leader, and I appreciate what you're doing.
	That's too kind.
	Could you imagine having to go into battle following Mitch McConnell?
	No, thank you.
	You're such a good guy.
	Stay on the line.
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	title for Boyle.
	The Republicans who want a Democrat speaker.
	Mm-hmm.
	Did you see what the caller picked up on Pelosi?
	No.
	She said she served under three presidents, and it's really important.
	She did, yeah.
	I watched her speech.
	Oh my gosh.
	She left out Trump's name.
	Wow.
	She also quoted scripture and, uh, invoked, like, the patron saint of San Francisco, Saint Francis.
	I was like, yeah, good Catholic who likes abortions.
	She also took time to mention her family and, like, name her, like, her children and grandchildren.
	When she got to the grandchildren, I'm like, oh, including the grandson that you hate?
	Right.
	All right.
	All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Oh, there he is.
	There's my guy.
	Good job.
	How's your new show going?
	Good?
	Very well, thank you.
	I heard.
	Good.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	It's unbelievable.
	Here it is.
	I just retweeted it.
	Scoop.
	Don Bacon, Nebraska Republican, tells NBC News he's willing to work with the Dems to elect a moderate speaker if Republicans can't agree on a candidate.
	That's incredible.
	That's betraying the will of the American people.
	Absolutely bloody stunning.
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	That's got Randy in Knoxville, line three.
	Hey, Dr. Borkin.
	Hey.
	I appreciate last week you played that horrific thing that NPR did.
	The abortion happening, yeah.
	The actual program of an abortion happening.
	It was so disgusting.
	I wonder if now that we've taken over, they've been talking this for 30 years about defunding NPR.
	They get like half a billion dollars from us every year.
	They've got plenty of stations.
	They could pay their own way.
	Instead, they melt guys like me.
	You know, I'm a house painter, man.
	I'm out there working, and I've got to take some of my tax money and give it to those wretched people.
	What do you think?
	You think they're going to have enough testicle fortitude to take that money away from those scumbags.
	Randy, I don't think you want the honest answer.
	I hope they do, but I don't think they have the testicular fortitude.
	Listen to this show.
	Get it on the app.
	Let's go to Les in Sacramento, line two.
	Thank you, Randy.
	Dr. G, I don't know if America picked up on this, but the drinker of the house just said that she had the pleasure of serving under three presidents.
	She's actually served under four.
	So I guess she denied and ripped up the election results of 2016.
	Hang on, hang on, Les.
	Is Nancy an election denier?
	Exactly.
	Right?
	Is she an election?
	Is Nancy an election denier?
	Exactly.
	Wow.
	No, you are a smart dude.
	I didn't pick up on that, but you're absolutely right.
	It's like they said, for how many years?
	For four years?
	He's an illegitimate president.
	That's what they said.
	Because guess who the real election deniers are?
	Whether it's Hillary, whether it's Pelosi, whether it's the Russia, Russia collusion crowd!
	It is, of course, the Democrats.
	Great callers, guys.
	God bless.
	You are in top form.
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	36 Republicans voted against Kevin McCarthy.
	What does it mean?
	And Schumer said the quiet bit out loud.
	The real reason for open borders, amnesty for millions and millions of illegals.
	Is there anything we can do about it after the midterms?
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	Come in with cut... Hello?
	Can you hear me, guys?
	Hello?
	I'm plugged in, right?
	You can't hear me?
	Oh, no.
	I plugged my phone in.
	Come in with the judge.
	Come in with cut 13, please.
	That's good quality, right, Jeff?
	Good sound?
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	On counts one through six, this court is imposing a life sentence without the possibility or eligibility for extended supervision consecutive to one another.
	One life sentence for Virginia Sorenson.
	One life sentence for Leanna Owen.
	One life sentence for Tamara Durand.
	One life sentence for Jane Kulik.
	One life sentence for Bill Hospel.
	And one life sentence for Jackson Sparks.
	That is Judge Jennifer Darrow.
	Right.
	Who just read out the six consecutive life sentences for the man, Daryl Brooks, who mowed down innocent grandmothers and a young boy at that Christmas parade.
	It's finally a story that disappeared from the news utterly.
	Why?
	Because the killer is black?
	And because the victims are white?
	Should that be a reason for a story not to be covered?
	Surely that's racism, that's bigotry.
	I am saddened that there is no death penalty in the state where that guilty plea, or that guilty verdict was found.
	But he will fill out those six life sentences consecutively.
	And since you can only die once, he will never, ever breathe
	It's a little glimpse into what we have descended to as a nation that there is such perversion and distortion of the truth that a January 6th victim on a misdemeanor charge can be imprisoned
	And kept behind bars still for a year and a half or two years without even being arraigned before a judge for a trespassing offense.
	Not a story.
	A man can murder six, including a child.
	Not a story.
	An individual can travel the country, all the way from California to Northern Virginia, with a gun, with a knife, with zip ties, to assassinate a Supreme Court Associate Justice with his family.
	Not a story.
	But it's the conservatives that are the problem.
	Conservatives who are probably right now, and you may be one of them, who are being monitored by federal law enforcement.
	It's a remarkable clip right now from brand new testimony, the director of the FBI, Christopher Wray, being asked by Rand Paul about whether you, listening to this show, are having your Facebook messages illegally surveilled without a warrant by the federal government.
	The response It's not a reassuring one.
	Cut to.
	Director Wray, is Facebook or any other social media company supplying private messages or data on American users that is not compelled by the government or the FBI?
	Not compelled.
	In other words, not in response to the legal process.
	No warrant, no subpoena.
	They're just supplying you information on their users.
	I don't believe so, but I can't sit here and be sure of that as I sit here.
	Can you give us a yes or no by going back to your team and asking, because it's a very specific question, because if they are, it's against the law.
	The law, the Stored Communications Act, the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 prohibits providers from sharing electronic communications with any person or entity.
	Unless it's compelled.
	This was done to protect the privacy of people so we could feel like we can send an email or direct message to people without having that information given over.
	It's a very specific question.
	Will you get with your team of lawyers and give us a specific answer?
	Because this is the law.
	If you're doing it, then we need to go to court to prevent you from receiving this information.
	Well, I can tell you that I'm quite confident we're following the law, but what I will also do is follow up.
	Well, that's not the answer.
	That's not the answer.
	But I will also follow up with you to make sure that we get you more information, more detailed information.
	The director of the most powerful law enforcement agency in the world just said, I'm quite confident that our 30,000 agents are following the law.
	That's the wrong answer.
	And the fact that he can't, I mean, yeah, God bless Rand Paul for asking the question, but really, where's the follow up?
	He's not, he's not sure.
	The director of the FBI is not sure.
	If private communications are being illegally tapped, downloaded, without a warrant, he should know.
	Because then it's not the FBI.
	Then it's the Gestapo.
	Then it's a political police force.
	Do you think anybody, anybody, is going to fix that?
	Apart from President Trump.
	Here's the big problem, and I'm going to explore all of this and so much more tonight.
	I'm delighted, honored to be asked to guest host the most popular show on Newsmax tonight.
	It's Rob Schmidt.
	Jeff and the Newsmax team have been helping me out.
	It's going to be an amazing show.
	It's 7 p.m.
	Eastern.
	Do not miss it.
	It's the number one show on Newsmax, and I'll be covering for Rob.
	But here's some very simple math.
	President Trump has been a victim.
	him.
	He's had his home raided by the FBI.
	We just found out yesterday, the Washington Post admitted, uh, sorry, there weren't any nuclear secrets.
	President Trump wasn't selling classified information to our enemies.
	There's a problem now because what were we told for the last five months?
	Quote-unquote for weeks.
	Unnamed intelligence sources confirmed.
	To the Post, to the Times, to CNN, to MSNBC.
	Nuclear codes, nuclear secrets, Espionage Act violations.
	Now there's two scenarios for a sentence like that to be published.
	Number one, the organ and the journalist fabricated it.
	There was no unnamed source in the intelligence community and the Hoover building and they just lied.
	They said there is an unnamed source and there wasn't one.
	The other is even worse because we know that newspapers lie.
	The other one is that members of the intelligence community lied.
	They said President Trump had secrets, had nuclear codes, had contravened the Espionage Act.
	That's the definition of the deep state.
	And whether or not you're like Ron DeSantis or live in Florida, ask yourself one question.
	Would Ron DeSantis clean up a corrupt FBI and DOJ?
	If he wanted to be re-elected to a second term?
	He could be president in 2028, that's fine.
	Who's the only politician who's alive today who's been president once and has nothing to lose by cutting corruption out of the putrid heart of this nation?
	The man who was the 45th president.
	President Trump is the only quote-unquote politician who because he can't be reelected could come in and fix it all.
	There is no other politician who would come in and say I'm gonna do it for just four years and I don't want to be reelected.
	Just on that logic alone I think you know who it has to be in 2024.
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	Okay.
	Three minutes, 45.
	He's phone, right, Jeff?
	Or is he gonna be Skype?
	Skype.
	Skype, okay.
	Did you get his Skype data?
	Uh, Jeff says he can't find it.
	That's what I'm waiting for.
	He told me to search for his number, but it's not working that way.
	Yeah, that can be kinda dodgy.
	Phone number's tied to it.
	Can you kill the mics and dictate to me?
	There we go.
	Fuck.
	I'm just... Yeah.
	He said it's his name with a space in the middle.
	That doesn't make sense because you can't have spaces on Skype.
	Yeah, you can.
	I think he just sent... Let me see if I can find it.
	He just sent me that too.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	Okay, I had a really weird experience a week ago.
	I was on a British TV show And there was a, you know, I was as a guest by Skype, and there was a panel of people in studio on the other end, and I recognized the name.
	I didn't recognize the person because he's aged much worse than I have, but the last time I'd seen him was in 1993, I think, when he was running for some student council gig when I was living back in London.
	And then he said, Hey, it's me!
	And then I realized, Oh yeah, it is you.
	And we have connected because he's a warrior for freedom, Lembit Okpik.
	Welcome to America First.
	Delightful to see you, but the difference is I didn't have to cover my face with hair to disguise my age, but I'm just putting that out there.
	It's a little harsh.
	It's British humour.
	You've got to take the Mickey out of the other if you really like him.
	But I've had that go- You've started it.
	What?
	Yeah, but I'm the host of the show and you're the guest.
	I'm allowed to be rude.
	I think the last time I met you, were you running for some student position?
	Is that right?
	In the 90s?
	That's right.
	I was running for the absolutely right, completely impressive memory from 30 years ago.
	I was standing for President of the NUS, the National Union of Students.
	I think I actually have the leaflet.
	My wife will spare when I say this, but I think I actually have one of your campaign leaflets still in a cardboard box somewhere here in America, which is embarrassing.
	Anyway.
	You've been a very successful politician.
	Lib Dems.
	You're a libertarian today.
	You look like a politician.
	He's actually got a blue shirt on with the white stripes.
	That's mandatory in Westminster.
	You've got to have one of those.
	But you reached out to me because of some really politically incorrect things you're saying about the environment and CO2.
	So tell us, what is your new mission, Lembit?
	My mission, my friend, is to stop the insanity of the climate crisis cult.
	There is no climate emergency.
	Does climate change?
	Yes!
	Are human beings destroying the climate?
	No!
	We make tiny, tiny differences to the climate.
	It's so arrogant for so many people to think that we're actually controlling, for the better or the worse, the climate.
	We need to adapt, not to destroy.
	And I'll tell you this one thing, Seb.
	This is not about climate.
	This is not about science, because you can absolutely smash the claim that we are destroying the climate to pieces.
	It's about redistribution of wealth and redistribution of power.
	from the west to the east and elsewhere.
	Now, I got to ask you this because I don't know you very well.
	We kind of just passed across each other, you know, 30 years ago.
	But is your conviction, is it similar to mine?
	So I'm a conservative, I'm a Thatcherite, I'm a firefighter, I worked for President Trump because my dad was given a life sentence in a communist prison in 1950.
	My parents escaped communism.
	They know what redistribution of wealth really ends up in.
	And you are of Estonian heritage.
	So is that part and parcel of your clarity of vision?
	Seb, that is true.
	I won't make a joke about this.
	A large portion of my family did not make it out of the Soviet Union.
	I know that your East European roots means that you've had the same thing.
	And you know That the non-free market, the authoritarian agenda, favors individuals.
	It doesn't favor everybody.
	There's a small cabal who can then use that for their own advantage.
	Now, I think that's what's happening with the Green Agenda.
	I really am concerned about that.
	And bigger than that, Seb, my mission now, you asked me what that was, is to stop this insanity, to celebrate the free market, and to de-escalate what seems to me to be a war against wealth.
	Now let me ask you one thing, because I'm not a scientist, I'm a political science PhD, but I've learned a lot from the likes of Mark Murano and others who wrote the book, The Impolitically Correct Guide to Climate Change.
	I think the biggest achievement they've had You know, in addition to creating a watermelon, this thin green rind around this deeply red socialist construct.
	I mean, this is Goebbels-level propaganda that they've convinced the world, the likes of Greta and everybody else, that the fuel for life, CO2, which is what plants need to grow and to create oxygen for us, they've convinced Millions, hundreds of millions of people, that the fuel for life is actually a pollutant.
	Do we have to doff our caps and kind of salute and say, that level of propaganda is pretty impressive, Lambert?
	I am absolutely in awe of the Green movement for having done this, to be honest with you, Seb.
	I would actually regard Greta Thunberg as a victim.
	She's clearly highly autistic, not well educated.
	And they use her because it's very, very uncomfortable for people to criticize her.
	I don't criticize her.
	I criticize the puppet masters who put her into the front line to go across the Atlantic in some stale boat.
	Doesn't make any sense.
	Fundamentally, what we're dealing with... And then to fly back on a jet.
	Well, and also on the way out, you actually had to have more people flying there to bring the boat back.
	Then if she'd flown in the first place, economy, which I don't know if she does that or not, then have you got lots of celebrities flying business or first class to save the world?
	Go figure.
	When it comes down to it, there is no reason to be afraid of CO2.
	You said CO2 is our friend.
	That's the phrase I'd use.
	Because at the end of the day, what feeds our planet is food, is plants, and plants eat CO2 and if you go below 150 parts per million, which is a bit of a technical thing, then everything dies.
	We're not far above that now.
	We should be pumping it up rather than knocking it down.
	I want to continue this discussion for one more segment.
	Don't go anywhere.
	The callers, please stay where you are.
	We will make time for you.
	David, John, Dave and Greg in Arizona will get to you.
	This is crucial stuff and I will be less forgiving with Miss Thunberg because she let the cat out of the bag.
	We got a Peaked behind the curtain last week.
	She said the problem is capitalism.
	It's not about the environment.
	She actually said the problem is capitalism.
	We have the proof that this is a watermelon.
	This is very, very thin amount of green and deep, deep, deep red communism on the inside.
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	Just when you thought the green thing wasn't insane enough.
	San Francisco launches guaranteed income program for transgender community.
	I guess the heterosexual normal people don't count?
	Isn't that bigotry?
	Do I have to cut my...
	Do I have to do something to me to get money from San Francisco?
	It ain't happening!
	Wishful thinking for the left.
	We are back with former Member of Parliament Lembit Opek.
	He is a warrior for the truth when it comes to the climate.
	So, let's stop talking about how effective the propagandists have been.
	What are we going to do about it, Lembit?
	How do we deprogram millions and millions of people?
	Go back to the science.
	Al Gore said the science is settled.
	He's right.
	The science proves there is no climate crisis.
	Ask Al Gore this.
	Why do you think that CO2 can even drive the climate whenever it tends to follow the climate?
	Second question to Al Gore would be, how can something which is 0.04% of the atmosphere be more influential than, for example, water vapor, which is 90 times more influential at the equator?
	And thirdly, What do you think is going to happen if we spend the 3 to 5 trillion dollars to do this?
	That's like 1.4 trillion dollars a year in the United States.
	Nothing's going to happen.
	Nothing's going to change.
	And this is the problem that Democrats particularly are destroying any prospect of economic viability when China and India and Russia are rubbing their hands waiting for us to Don't totally emaciate yourselves by being stupid about the climate.
	CO2 is our friend, like you said before.
	Is there some good news in what that murderous KGB former colonel is doing in the East with the gas prices, the very tough winter?
	I heard that the Brits are finally going to start fracking again.
	Is this going to be the reality check that we all need for people to realise that this is all garbage and it's a cult?
	Yes and no.
	The Brits are too scared to go for fracking at this point, but they'll have to do it.
	Germany has decided to pretty much junk its environmental agenda.
	And if there's one thing that Putin has done, he's caused people to wake up and smell the coffee.
	Power cuts in First World countries?
	That's what we were promised by Rishi Sunak over the summer.
	What should we do about it?
	You know what we should do?
	And I'm very happy to do this with you, Seb.
	Sit on a platform in Washington, D.C.
	with any two, three, five, ten Greens on the other side who can explain why we have to get to net zero, an idiotic policy which will destroy Western economies.
	If, of course, you want to redistribute wealth to the less wealthy countries who actually are increasing their oil usage at the same time as wanting reparations from the West, then go right ahead.
	I'm not playing that game.
	And the fact I don't need votes maybe Enables me to be a bit more honest in the UK than most of the others.
	All right Well, we'll talk about what we can do here But here's my issue with it with an event and we you need to come over the pond Pick the most polluting plane like get a DC-10 or something and fly here on the most polluting plane possible But the problem is they're all cowards.
	They know it's you know, a tissue of lies.
	Nobody's gonna debate you So what's the point?
	The point is that if you do it often enough and you point out to the general public the implications of not being able to drive a petrol or diesel car, not being able to turn your lights on unless you've got solar panels.
	I've got solar panels.
	They're completely useless.
	Not being able to give your kids the standard of living that you had yourself.
	In other words, for the first time in generations, if we go backwards, then maybe people will start to listen.
	The Greens won't show up, but that, you know what, would be quite interesting as well.
	Imagine you have two empty chairs, instead of two chairs of people who might just try to defend it.
	Do you know why they don't turn up?
	Because they know it's a busted flush, that somebody's got to smell the coffee, and somebody's got to actually call them out.
	That's my feeling.
	I don't enjoy doing this, but I just have to do it, because otherwise my kids will have a wrecked future.
	Yeah, we will continue the discussion.
	We'll get you back.
	We'll get you over the pond.
	But here's the metric for when we take them serious.
	I'll give them a modicum of recognition when the Extinction Rebellion, the Greta Thunbergs of the world, they go and protest on the streets of Beijing.
	When they go to China and glue themselves to the pavement in front of Xi Jinping's palace, then I'll take them seriously.
	In the meantime, follow this man.
	Yes, go ahead, quickly, quickly.
	I'll certainly say.
	And when And all the things that we've exported to China to buy back.
	Stop pretending.
	The emissions still belong to us.
	Either do it or don't do it.
	Bingo.
	Wear the hair shoes, Jared, or don't.
	Bingo.
	Bingo.
	Follow this man, Lembit Opic.
	He's a warrior for sanity.
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	And then I wrote something down for Kurt, but I don't know where I wrote it.
	He said something really good at the beginning.
	Maybe something about the Brotherhood theme?
	What was it?
	Towards the very end, you really liked what he had to say.
	Yeah, about, um... Oh, what was it?
	Oh, like the masculine people will eventually take over one or the other.
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	Masculinity is inevitable.
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	That is so weird.
	What's weird?
	Well, that I, you know, I last met him in 1993.
	So funky.
	Still have all those student campaign posters, I'll bet.
	I still have stuff from, like, my student campaigns when I was in, like, high school and college.
	Yeah.
	45 seconds.
	Want to come in with anything?
	Um... AOC.
	We haven't played AOC yet, I don't think, on the show.
	Yeah, come in with that.
	That's too good.
	Come in with cut six.
	No liners, Alex.
	No liners.
	All right, this is the D segment.
	Oh, weren't you going to do a PhD here as well?
	I am.
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	transgender people are not real.
	They're not!
	They don't exist!
	Sorry!
	Hey, can you just put her up in the background or just do a b-roll or whatever?
	What is with her glasses?
	She's got like these, they're like the size of dishes.
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	They're as big as her flipping cranium.
	What is that?
	And by the way, help me out.
	Look at that.
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	She looks like a cartoon character from, you know, what is that thing about the The boy with the lab and the sister.
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	She looks like the sister from that cartoon.
	You're hilarious.
	Jeff, who called January 6 a tourist visit?
	I don't know.
	I know that the only politician that threatened violence on video stepped out today, though, from leadership.
	Who's that?
	That would be Nancy Pelosi.
	She's the only one that actually threatened violence that I know of on January 6th.
	But I do know that there were actual tourist visits by people in Congress that the Democrats said were, what were they, they were like, they were, they were casing the joint for insurrection.
	Do you remember that?
	Yeah, there were surveillance visits.
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	Let's go to David Orlando, line one.
	Well, good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey!
	Everyone in Italy over David Chappelle comments regarding Jews running Hollywood on the heels of Kanye being cancelled.
	Kanye did not get canceled because of his comments against Jews.
	He got canceled because he was not with the program, the Democratic Party program, and wanted off the plantation.
	The comments were used as an excuse to cancel him.
	As for Chappelle, yes, Kyrie Irving was not a Nazi during the Holocaust, but neither were Jews in the KKK.
	But during the Civil War, blacks did fight for the Confederacy, and guess what?
	They were even slave owners as well.
	The Nazis were socialists, and so did the Democrats that owned slaves.
	They lynched blacks and passed Jim Crow laws.
	Now they're bringing illegal aliens to grow the population of this country while they're wanting every black child aborted.
	Chappelle, the joke is on him.
	During his rant, he conveniently stayed in the left lane, so hopefully he will get that sneaker contract.
	In addition, you know, everyone asks, why did the Democrats win New York?
	Well, the reality is the following.
	New York is a cesspool, and being a New Yorker, people vote to keep their ghetto lifestyle over their personal safety.
	They have their scams, and they want to keep it going.
	One last comment.
	In 1955, faced with illegal Mexican immigration, Eisenhower enacted the wetback program to kick out illegals.
	In honor of Nancy, let's get off the Paulie's back program.
	Let's get off the what?
	Paulie's back.
	Paul Pelosi's back.
	What do you mean by that?
	Okay, wetback.
	I understand what a wetback is.
	Why is anybody on Paul's back?
	That was an illegal alien that came into its house, and they seemed to be having a little bit more fun with it.
	Oh, I see.
	All right, because the attacker was an illegal alien from Canada.
	I get it.
	Look, the bottom line is it's very simple.
	You've got to know your history.
	The Democrats are the racists.
	They are the slaveholders.
	They are the creators of the KKK, and they're the people who assassinated the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln.
	Let's go to John in San Diego, line two.
	Sebastian, your guest was fantastic.
	We need to go one more step and call the communist bluff.
	Automobile engines themselves do not produce carbon dioxide.
	They produce carbon monoxide.
	The catalytic converters turn that into carbon dioxide.
	Simply recall all the catalytic converters out of a billion, out of what, about 2 billion cars in this world?
	There's $1,500 worth of precious metals in each one of them.
	That's $3 trillion.
	With $3 trillion of precious metals, you can make $12 trillion of melt value in coinage.
	And it will cost you a trillion.
	So you end up paying down $11 trillion worth of national debt, and you end the crybaby garbage of them whining about gasoline engines.
	Liberate America from the catalytic converters.
	I love it.
	Stay on the line, John.
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	Dave in Arizona, welcome.
	Ultra mega dittos from another happy reward, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Yeah, as we've discussed many times, not only do we have a problem with the lamestream media, we have a problem with the establishment class because their partners in the two groups use hypocrisy lies and projection to control the people.
	I mean, we see it time and time again, right?
	Everything that they've accused President Trump of during the first impeachment.
	We knew that Biden and Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry and Mitch McChina were doing.
	It's all documented, right?
	Yep.
	Mitch McChina.
	Did you come up with that?
	Check, check that, sir.
	Yeah, I've been posting that in the Twitterverse since May of 2020.
	I love it.
	Stay on the line.
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	That is nicely done.
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	Hello, Dr. Rorikak.
	Hey.
	I'm a hacked off warrior after this recent election, and I would like to make a comment about the House, and I would like to make a comment about the Senate.
	Yep.
	Why I'm hacked off.
	I was listening to your first hour about the Republicans are now negotiating with the Democrats to have an establishment speaker.
	No, no, no.
	Not the Republicans.
	One Republican, Congressman Bacon, has threatened to do so.
	Well, I didn't vote for the establishment.
	No.
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	I want a Donald Trump who makes a promise and gets things done.
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	Line 5.
	Sam, you're up.
	Hey, Dr. Gorkas.
	Can you hear me?
	Yes, go ahead.
	You've got a minute.
	Sure, some quick comments on the 2020 and 2022 election.
	I do agree that the election was rigged.
	I do agree that there was a fair amount of cheating involved.
	When it comes to balloting, I think the Republicans need to up their game.
	You're cutting out, you're cutting out.
	So Republicans need to up their game?
	What does that mean?
	Well, what's happening is there's really no infrastructure for harvesting, more importantly, getting people at home to submit ballots.
	Number two, the chain of custody is very suspect.
	I'm very concerned about people just mail-in balloting.
	Where do those ballots go?
	What happens to them?
	People in the Postal Service, most of them who vote Democrat, do they just take some of them in Republican districts and toss them into the trash?
	We don't know.
	The chain of custody, a suspect, Those mail-in balloting needs to go.
	Until that happens, things are going to be very tenuous, I think.
	Yeah, but it's not going to go in those Democrat strongholds where they control the statehouse, so we have to adapt.
	We have to adapt and survive.
	We have to out-organize the Democrats.
	We can do it, but it's going to take some backbone of the local GOP and you, my dear friend, Sam, and everybody else getting engaged.
	If my wife can do it as a senior election officer, so can you.
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	Joe and Victoria next!
	Thank you.
	There were several moments like that yesterday.
	Cheers from the thousand people at the Mar-a-Lago Ballroom for the President's announcement.
	Also, when he talked about how we should run our elections.
	No machines.
	Hard copy ballots.
	And then, recognition for his son, Eric Trump.
	He said, more subpoenas than any other man in history.
	Eric got a standing ovation.
	And then at the end, Melania, who looked fabulous as usual, smiling from the stage, also got a standing ovation.
	I wish I could have talked about it more yesterday, but too much moving news.
	And now we have our very special in-studio guests, your favorites, Joe DeGeneva, Victoria Tunting.
	Welcome back to America First One-on-One.
	Oh, it's always great to be back here.
	Good to be with you.
	Why was anybody surprised that President Trump made that announcement the day before yesterday?
	Who was surprised?
	I mean, people were asking me, is he going to?
	Yeah, he's going to.
	Yeah, of course.
	You guys weren't surprised, right?
	No, no, not at all.
	All right, let's start with some very, very good news that we managed to preview yesterday before you arrived.
	You got some very good... Well, you didn't receive good news.
	Indirectly, you found out about some good news concerning you and America's Mayor, so please share.
	My lawyers got a letter that the case was over.
	It was kaput.
	So tell us what happened to you and how it all fell apart for Biden's DOJ.
	Yeah, let me give you a quick background.
	In 2019, Rudy Giuliani called me and said, I would like you to represent the prosecutor general, which is like the equivalent of the attorney general.
	of Ukraine because he's coming to me for representation.
	I have a conflict.
	I represent Trump.
	But would you please do it?
	Because he wants to provide evidence of Biden family corruption in Ukraine and also Viktor Shokin, who Biden got fired because he was investigating Burisma and Hunter Biden.
	That absolutely infamous moment, that video where Biden says, Zelensky, I'm going to hold back this billion dollar credit loan from America unless you fire Viktor Shrokin And then Biden says, son of a gun!
	He fired him.
	So clever.
	So they were coming to say, Biden's corrupt.
	And at that time, Rudy and I didn't think Biden would run because of all this stuff that we had.
	And then the representation never came through because there were threats and we were going to go to Ukraine to talk with them.
	And the U.S.
	ambassador, Yovanovitch, said she wouldn't protect us if we came and so forth.
	The U.S.
	ambassador said you're on your own.
	if you come to Ukraine.
	Right.
	And there's threats against you.
	The same U.S. ambassador, by the way, I'm sorry, we're going down rabbit warrens already, but the same U.S. ambassador who we found out illegally tasked the State Department to monitor the Social Media Council.
	Including my account, John Solomon.
	Yeah, your account, John Solomon, mine, Donald Trump Jr.'s, because I guess that's what the State Department does, monitor U.S.
	citizens.
	So what did that all develop into?
	So I didn't think anything more of it.
	The representation never came through and I continued with my life.
	And so you can imagine my surprise in April of 2021 when Merrick Garland and Chris Wray sent the FBI to my house, our house, but it was just for me, a search warrant for guess when?
	The very time period that I was talking to... Hang on a second, you're an attorney, correct?
	I am an attorney, yes.
	So you have all kinds of sensitive information, client-attorney privilege... My clients, all my clients, yes.
	They're not... it's against the rules.
	And usually if there's an... unless an attorney has committed, I don't know, murder or mass murder... We're the target, it's called... if they're the target, if they're the one being investigated, but... Usually you should have just... somebody from DOJ should have said, we've got a question, can you come in and chat, right?
	Subpoena me, subpoena me.
	And then instead they came to your home?
	Yes, search warrant.
	Took all my client's information.
	Accusing you of what, Victoria?
	Having evidence.
	Not having committed a crime.
	Having evidence of a crime.
	But of a FARA violation.
	They were trying to get Rudy.
	Again, I know we're going in the weeds, but you need to know what the deep state is.
	You need to know what the swamp is.
	So FARA is the Foreign Agents Registration.
	So if you want to lobby on behalf of Guatemala or Belgium, you have to tell the DOJ, I am now an American citizen and I am representing another government.
	Yes, and we've done that before.
	I've registered before.
	And in the past, what has happened to people who failed to register and were found?
	What usually happens?
	You mean like Hunter Biden?
	If somebody failed to do the paperwork, what did the U.S.
	Marshals roll up on their door?
	This used to be under me when I was Deputy Assistant Attorney General.
	You knock on the door and you say, I think you got a register.
	And they say, would you mind filling out this form?
	Maybe you're fine.
	Maybe you're fine.
	Slap on the wrist.
	But you had your devices taken.
	I had my device, yes, I had taken.
	So they had access to all my client information.
	And around which period were they interested in?
	What were you doing at the time?
	Oh, 2019!
	Just 2019, it said, for evidence regarding 2019.
	But, even worse, what I found out.
	They covertly went to a court in 2019 and accessed, had Apple and iCloud access All my material.
	Your information that's on the iCloud.
	And they gave them specific instructions to get information about clients of mine.
	Again, this is so impossible to internalize.
	They accessed your data on an alleged FARA violation?
	But they had to do it because I was either going to leave the country Or intimidate a witness or destroy evidence.
	That well-known mafia don, Victoria Townsend, known as a flight risk across America.
	And so what's the good news that both you and Rudy Giuliani have received?
	Well, after 18 months for me, and I have over half a million dollars, they said, oh, never mind.
	And throughout the whole time, they would never, they refused to tell, my lawyers would say, well, do you have a document that you have a question about?
	Oh, we'll talk to you later.
	Well, can you just tell us who was the foreign client that she's got the evidence about?
	Well, you figure it out.
	I mean, it was awful, it was wretched, it was illegal and corrupt.
	So, Joe, yesterday there was a moment in the speech, and I'm glad the president didn't Well, the Democrats don't care now because it's their guys that are weaponizing it, so they're just happy as clams to see Republicans encumbered with this.
	But this is a very dangerous period, and it's really fascinating.
	having their electronic devices taken by the FBI. - Well, the Democrats don't care now because it's their guys that are weaponizing it.
	So they're just happy as clams to see Republicans encumbered with this.
	But this is a very dangerous period.
	And it's really fascinating.
	That letter that was sent to the court ending the investigation of Rudy and then the search warrant for Victoria was sent just a few days after the election.
	Now isn't it fascinating that Republicans got subpoena power in the House and they decided to drop that investigation.
	I mean this is so sleazy what they did in the Southern District of New York against Rudy and Victoria.
	They knew that there was never anything wrong.
	Let's be clear here that You don't need to do what they did to Steve Bannon or others.
	You don't necessarily have to arrest them and put them in leg irons like my colleague Peter.
	Navarro, even if they do this to you for a year or half a year and you rack up half a million dollars worth, if you never stand in a dock or you never actually get charged with something formally, it has that chilling effect, does it not?
	Here's what they say in the department amongst themselves, the DOJ, Democrat Department, the process is the punishment.
	Is the punishment.
	And that's exactly what they're doing.
	The FBI whistleblowers have told that to They know you're going to have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	That's the punishment.
	That's the punishment.
	That is such a disgraceful standard.
	And the fact that Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray sit there atop this monster and allow it to happen, they should both be removed from office.
	No, they don't just allow it.
	They had to authorize Rudy's and my.
	Well, not only that, we now know that even Mar-a-Lago, the raid, was signed off by the Attorney General.
	So whether he's a puppet or not, and whether Lisa Monaco or others are running it, he has to put his signature to these documents.
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	Let's talk about the last two weeks, please.
	I just dropped a rather long 2,000-3,000-word article on my ruminations of what happened on Tuesday before last.
	I wrote it while I was going down to Mar-a-Lago.
	So here's... It's a sad realization, but tell me if I'm wrong or if I'm being unduly cynical.
	I look at the post-COVID environment and I see this.
	I don't know if it was Mark Levin or somebody else came up with this.
	I think Jesse Waters uses the phrase.
	He might have borrowed it from Mark.
	Let's play this little clip from our buddy, one of the few good people left at Fox, Jesse Waters.
	So what's going on here?
	Elections used to be decided on election night.
	American Idol can handle millions of votes in a commercial break, but it takes Arizona and Nevada a week?
	None of it makes sense because they don't want the system to make sense.
	The longer some of these races drag out for, the better it is for Democrats.
	Because they've created a system centered around ballots, not votes.
	It's not about winning your vote anymore.
	It's not about persuading you.
	It's about flooding the state with as many ballots as possible and getting them filled out Democrat.
	So here's my thesis and the title of the article was the 2022 anti-election because it wasn't an election.
	We didn't go to the polls and then choose the candidate we thought was best.
	Basically one side mobilized Ballot collection for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks.
	And if you look at Pennsylvania, 50 days of voting, half of the votes were cast before Federman debates Dr. Oz.
	So that's not an election.
	It's simply the mechanics of collecting lots of pieces of paper, having them filled out.
	So my contention is, and I don't know if it's Bad of me to say this, whether it's undemocratic of me or against Republican values.
	Our job is to out-organize the Democrats.
	If they have gone for 50 days of voting and mail-out ballots, well, we just have to be better at that game.
	Is that defeatist?
	No, but let me point something out to you.
	What political party was the governor of Arizona for the last four years?
	Don't get me started.
	Well, I know, because when Joe and I worked after the 2020 election... When I had Harmeet Dhillon on the show on Wednesday after the election, and she's in Arizona in the RNC War Room, and she's trying to explain to me how the GOP ran out of printer cartridges on election day.
	And I assure you something, The DNC wouldn't run out of cartridges to print ballots for their voters on Election Day, right, Joe?
	No question about it.
	We were out-organized, out-spent, out-harvested, out-ballot-collecting.
	I mean, the GOP has to completely redo its model because of mail-out balloting.
	Which is something we probably can't fix, right?
	We can't return to one-day voting.
	Once it's the law, it's the law.
	And the fact is, no matter how we feel about we'd love everybody to vote on Election Day, it's not going to happen anymore.
	And so what we have to do is, we have to start gathering ballots and getting votes in early, and we have to just organize and organize and organize.
	And we didn't this time.
	And no matter what Ronna McDaniel says, it's her fault, it's Rick Scott's fault, All those people who had responsibility for candidates and organizing, they didn't do it.
	At the very least, though, when there's Republican legislatures, they should be changing the law.
	Absolutely.
	And if they're not going to do it, we have to meet the Democrats on the battlefield that they have created.
	Let's talk about the fact that we have, what, maybe two weeks left for Georgia for the runoff.
	You said something quite chilling in the green room before we came on.
	Right now, the Democrats have 50 seats.
	We have 49, with Georgia to play out.
	need the Senate if they don't actually need Kamala to drive from the White House to cast a tie-breaking ballot for big legislation.
	What scenario did you have painted for us?
	Right now, the Democrats have 50 seats.
	We have 49 with Georgia to play out.
	If we don't win Georgia, the Democrats have 51, which means the committees in the Senate will no longer be 50-50.
	They will be whatever amount the Democrats want to determine is a fair amount for the Democrats, which will be at least 51%, 52%.
	They can choose whatever number they want.
	No, the Senate doesn't have that kind of mentality.
	They really are a different body, but theoretically they can do whatever they want.
	It still won't be equal.
	But once they have the extra vote on each committee, they have the power to subpoena without the consent of any Republican.
	And then what do you predict for two years?
	They are going to investigate Republicans out the wazoo, and then the question for the Republicans who control the House is, are you going to do the same thing?
	Are you, Kevin McCarthy, going to investigate to a fare-thee-well?
	Because if you don't, Your lifespan as a leader in the party is over and we will lose the house.
	But then we still have to get some people smart enough to know how to get it into the media.
	What?
	You mean what the Democrats are doing?
	Our messaging for the 2022 election sucked.
	It was awful.
	It's not that it sucked.
	The Republicans.
	The 2022 election sucked.
	It was awful.
	So it's not it's not that it sucked.
	There wasn't any.
	I mean, pick a pick a topic.
	And I talked about pro-life because clearly the left had a message on on killing babies and Roe v. Wade.
	I couldn't tell you, Joe, and I do politics every day, I couldn't tell you what was the Republican message on abortion.
	Here's what it should have been.
	Here's what it should have been from the Senate and the House.
	This is now a state issue.
	We are not going to discuss it.
	So this thing about, oh, we're going to do a ban, total ban on abortion, and Lindsey coming in to say it's going to be 15 weeks.
	Lindsey's sabotage of the election.
	Well, but otherwise the message was there's going to be a total ban if you elect a Republican.
	So that was bad.
	Yeah, because there was a vacuum that they filled.
	There was no message on our side.
	Do you concur that they will ride the subpoena wagon if they get 51 votes in the Senate?
	Is Joe right?
	Oh, sure.
	Oh, sure.
	Unlike the Republicans, when Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy were in charge of subpoenas, I would be saying to people like Mark Meadows, why don't you all subpoena?
	Because it was the Russia hoax.
	And we all knew that it was a Russia hoax.
	Is there a significant difference between Senate and House when it comes to using the power of the subpoena?
	Does the DOJ pay more attention to a Senate committee or a House committee?
	No, the House is a different animal.
	It's a very different animal.
	And all you have to do is have one vote more than the other side, and you get to do just about everything.
	Now, talk about -- Joe was talking about ratios in the Senate.
	Usually the Senate, they're kind of nicer to each other.
	But in the House, Nancy, her ratio -- How many seats did the Republicans fail at?
	Five, maybe, for the last two years?
	She would have committees with eight Democrats, five Republicans.
	On January 6th, she had two.
	She had two Republicans on the January 6th committee.
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	Where's the talent on our side?
	The big, big brains.
	And I don't want to just... I'm looking!
	It's not just the last four years of Trump.
	I would say from the aughts onwards, we didn't have the Gingrichs, the Bakers, we didn't have the people who were, you know, the good Machiavellis of the right inside the building.
	Did we not cultivate them?
	Did they all go off into the private sector?
	Give us explanations.
	Well, the Bush people don't cultivate new talent.
	They're not interested in it.
	They don't care about it because it's all about them.
	It's a network.
	That's why when Jeb Bush ran in 2016 in that famous, OK, you can applaud now, you know, that's because that was a sense of entitlement.
	And they surrounded themselves with the same players, the same tired old people who didn't understand what's changing in American politics.
	There are great, talented people out there.
	We just haven't done a very good job of cultivating them.
	And I blame, again, I blame Ronna McDaniel.
	I blame Rick Scott.
	There's all kinds of wonderful, talented people.
	The guy from Wisconsin who was the first Chief of Staff for President Trump.
	Reince Priebus.
	Reince Priebus.
	What did they do to bring in great new brains?
	What they did, they went and got the old people from the Republican National Committee.
	To quote, to quote on exactly this issue, just to give it a little bit of flavor, a little bit of color, I think it was some rag, Vanity Fair or something, Bannon gave an interview about the first four weeks in the White House, and he actually used this phrase, when we needed 4,000 positions filled, presidential appointments.
	He said, "I sat down with Reince and we, quote, made a drug deal with the RNC to fill those positions." And it's really quite remarkable that we achieved what we did, given the fact that the old schlep of the, you know, skull and crossbones and, you know, all the good old boys filled those positions.
	They went and found every rhino they could.
	And President Trump had a rhino in charge.
	Well, worse than that, worse than that.
	By the time it was General Kelly, it was actually a seditionist.
	It was somebody who said, this is my house.
	My house.
	Nobody elected General Kelly.
	And he said, I'm there to protect America from the President.
	Which is weird, because I don't think anybody elected General Kelly.
	It was a very difficult time for President Trump who made terrible personnel decisions.
	I think his judgment about people was pretty bad.
	But he had disloyal people around him.
	Not you, not when you were there.
	But the bottom line is that that failure led to a catastrophic failure later.
	We would have had an opportunity to develop a great bench had there been a second term, and had there been a good use of personnel in the first term.
	But that wasn't done.
	And there are a lot of people to blame for that, but we were in a dangerous position of no bench.
	But I have a question, and where is the Republican George Soros?
	Where is the deep wallet for Republicans?
	All we know is in that really silly thing, whoever that guy was that cheated on crypto coin, which I don't even understand.
	He was the second and he's giving them hundreds of millions of dollars.
	Where are our people?
	And not only that, I mean, because there are a lot of rich conservatives out there who don't seem to be investing in the right things.
	We don't even have our own Mark Elias.
	So the other side has the architect of stealing elections.
	We don't want to steal elections, but we need somebody who's actually going to plan how we mobilize the base, how we get the ballots out if we have to mail them out in advance.
	Do we even have a putative Mark Elias on our side?
	Well, Harvey Dillon is very good on that, and Cleta Mitchell.
	Two broads, by the way.
	Well, that's what Mark Elias is.
	He's a lawyer.
	But I'm talking about not just the legal aspect.
	I'm talking about the organic, organizational enterprise aspect.
	We don't have one, do we, Jo?
	Well, we don't have enough of one, and the 22 election proved it, and we need to make a massive investment in that, and we need to fight back against these various groups that are trying to get lawyers frightened to be involved with the Republican Party, because they want to disbar them, they want to discredit them, they want to ruin their practices.
	I have to say thank you to Armie Dillon.
	Getting me lawyers for when Nancy Pelosi's Witch Hunt January 6th Committee subpoenaed my phone records.
	Very few brave lawyers out there.
	We've got two of them in the studio right now.
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	So let's get a little bit theoretical, if I may.
	Let's just indulge our fantasies for a moment, if we can.
	Where would you begin?
	And what would that organism look like if we encouraged and built a bench?
	If we need experts, people who know how to run things, not just campaigns, but government, what should a Republican personnel building apparatus look like?
	Well, that's what the Republican National Committee is for.
	That's exactly what they should be doing.
	They should be developing an infrastructure, having That's fine.
	They can do that.
	have schools for this.
	They should have training organizations.
	But Victoria hit the nail on the head.
	That's fine.
	They can do that.
	But we need some gigantic donors to come forward like George Soros with hundreds of millions of dollars to underwrite this.
	This just doesn't happen.
	I mean there's certainly talented people out there and organically some of that will occur.
	But there has to be a way to pay for it and to get it organized in a way.
	And that takes money.
	And it's just so sad that I don't see it.
	I know people that have gone out and said to -- and I know the specific people, aren't you interested in helping on this?
	No, not at this time.
	Very, very wealthy people.
	And it's -- Is there any commonality as to why they are uninterested?
	They're frightened by having their reputations destroyed, their businesses hurt, even if they have foundations, having their foundations smeared.
	The Democrats have done a very good job with the complicity of the media in helping to destroy the reputations of very good people and keeping people out of politics.
	That's why we need a counterweight to George Soros so that there can be money to back these people up, help them, fund them, Lawyer them up when necessary and provide all the impetus for a renaissance of Republican thinking and organizing.
	Nicely put.
	A renaissance.
	A renaissance.
	I like that.
	He speaks French very well.
	Yeah, we need a big sugar daddy.
	I don't think that's a French word, but I'm buying into it.
	I think, for example, you must know Morton Blackwell, right?
	Of course.
	Very, very smart.
	Morton has been doing this with young kids for, I don't know, 30 years.
	Yes, he's terrific.
	Encouraging them, training them, helping them to become experts in policy.
	And God bless him.
	I mean, I saw Morton came to our house for dinner a couple of months ago.
	And I don't see any organic connection between what he has invested himself in time and sweat equity for decades.
	I don't see this being picked up and utilized by the establishment.
	Yes, I would like to see George Soros get behind a Morton Blackwell and others and just pound tens of millions of dollars into this effort and get out there so that when the democratic organizations and left-wing organizations are approaching government agencies and saying, "We'd like to help you run the election." Why aren't our people out there doing that?
	But this is what Trump should be doing.
	I mean, he has access to all kinds of money.
	He should be pulling in some really good people to do just this renaissance.
	But again, that would require somebody around him who is that 80-pound brain, right?
	And I just don't see it right now.
	I see a lot of people around him of varying, I'll just be polite here since I was in Mar-a-Lago yesterday, of varying qualities.
	And I don't see anybody who's what I would term a strategic brain.
	I know he talks quite regularly at length and he said it on my show so I think I'm allowed to mention it.
	He talks for two hours at a time to Victor Davis Hanson.
	He needs a Victor Davis Hanson of politics sitting right next to him in Mar-a-Lago, correct?
	Yes.
	Well, Victor Davis Hanson is a long-term strategic thinker.
	And you have to have that.
	And we all have Victor Davis Hanson around.
	We read his stuff.
	We know what he's saying.
	What you need is someone around, either Trump or whoever, who has a strategic sense and can organize it and get it going.
	But that requires a sugar daddy.
	I think of James Baker.
	Are you fans of Baker?
	Oh God, yes.
	Because James Baker was a killer.
	He knew how to.
	He was a killer in diplomatic clothing.
	And you wouldn't even know he was there.
	And he knew how the swamp worked.
	Nobody was better than Baker.
	But Baker, you knew you were dead when you were standing there and your funeral cortege was going by you.
	What is that phrase about British diplomacy?
	A diplomat is somebody who can send you to hell in so many ways you look forward to going there.
	Describe more what it is about the Baker-esque that we need and is missing.
	So you have to know how the swamp works.
	You have to be lethal when required.
	You have to be smart.
	What else is there about Baker?
	- You have to be a killer. - Killer, right.
	- Yeah, but you see, James Baker, there are few and far between, but we need to find one.
	I mean, he was the stellar brain.
	I mean, he understood power.
	He understood the wielding of power.
	The media is no longer fair.
	He had relationships with people all over the country.
	But also this.
	At the time he was a power broker, the media was fair.
	The media is no longer fair.
	And what we have against us now, which is really a powerful, powerful thing to overcome, is we have a corrupt, totally corrupt media that is now nothing more than an arm of the Democratic Party.
	And we have to figure out a way to beat that, and that is not an easy challenge.
	That's part of what happened in 2022.
	Just a reminder for people who might not have been born when James Baker was in power, that he was in the Reagan White House, and he's the one that did the deal of bringing Bush in to be vice president, because they were two really different factions.
	They were the Texas people.
	They were two different factions.
	Because he was a Texas guy.
	Yeah, Baker's a Texas guy.
	But, yeah, I mean, that was brilliant to bring that in.
	Explain why.
	Why would a Californian nominee and a president, he wanted to have that?
	Well, with political philosophy, Bush was very different.
	But also foreign policy experience.
	Herbert Walker Bush was a former diplomat, CIA director, you name it.
	I mean, he had that experience that Reagan didn't.
	But Reagan was a much far superior politician than George Herbert Walker.
	And I'm remembering, Joe, when we were driving around Washington, all of a sudden the Washington Post was talking about, now there's homeless people.
	You know, there wasn't before Reagan was brought into office.
	So the press wasn't always kind in any way to Republicans.
	But now, they are corrupt.
	Yeah, because I was a little bit shocked you said they were fair.
	I'm not sure they were fair.
	They had a glimmer.
	They had an appearance of fairness.
	They weren't just propagandists.
	They at least thought they had the duty to do certain things.
	They don't feel that way anymore.
	Now they're just rank propagandists.
	Now they're just taxed for the Democratic Party.
	All right, you've got to follow this lady.
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	Yes.
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	We got our great stars under Ronald Reagan, who understood America as no other president has.
	And we were so thrilled to have an opportunity to serve Reagan.
	And when you've had an opportunity like that, and you see the success that a president can have, and what he can do for a country, you can't help but be committed To the future of the country and being involved in politics.
	Is that America still alive?
	Yes, but it's barely.
	And it's on life support.
	The 2022 election didn't turn out the way it should have.
	We should have had control of the Senate because now we're going to have to fight even harder over judges and legislation in the Senate.
	I went to law school because I believed in justice.
	And when I was a prosecutor, I said, I do as well when I say I'm not going to take this case.
	That's fair.
	As when I'm going to prosecute a bad guy.
	They were equal to me.
	That was way back when.
	Why are you doing what you do now, given what's happened to this city?
	Because I must fight them.
	I mean, I have to fight them.
	I have never seen the Justice Department so corrupt.
	It used to be, if the Republicans came in, well, we went harder after pornography.
	Democrats come in, you go harder after antitrust.
	I have never seen a Justice Department that's been allowed to go after, not just me and Rudy, but Rudy's lawyer, Bob Costello, the pillow man.
	Mike Lindell or a pro-life activist like Mark Houck.
	Yes, it's brazen political influence in the Justice Department.
	Rick Perry, I think it's Rick Perry, the Republican congressman who's had his, when a corrupt, was it William Jeffers?
	What is the corrupt?
	Congressman.
	Congressman, but I think his name is William Jefferson or something, it doesn't matter, he was a Democrat.
	And the FBI went in and searched his office, which is the equivalent of taking the cell phone.
	And Dennis Hastert and Nancy Pelosi both came out and protested.
	Wow.
	And it got overturned by the Court of Appeals.
	The courts eventually struck down the search of his office as a violation of the Speech and Debate Clause.
	Where was Kevin McCarthy, let alone Nancy Pelosi, when Rick Perry got his phone taken?
	And let me just say something.
	This is important for people to understand.
	Oh, John Solomon, the journalist.
	Absolutely.
	This is important for people to understand.
	The Republican bench is not that strong.
	And one of the reasons we like Ron DeSantis, and there are a lot of Trump people that don't like DeSantis, we love the guy because we live in Florida, we've watched him work, we see what he's done for the state.
	DeSantis is smart.
	He knows how to beat the Democrats at their game.
	He knows how to fight.
	He doesn't waste any time.
	He goes for the juggler.
	And he has people around him who are smart as hell.
	And that's the model.
	For the Republican Party.
	It's Ron DeSantis.
	People may not like him because he and Trump are having this diff.
	To hell with both of them.
	The bottom line is the future of the country.
	And we need people like DeSantis and Trump on our side working together.
	And I want Trump and DeSantis to work together for the good of the country.
	Especially in Georgia.
	And I'd like to see DeSantis in a Trump cabinet, but I warn you right now, Ron.
	I'm talking to you.
	Put on camera three, Ron.
	I'm serious.
	We already have indications that the establishment wants to use you as a weapon against President Trump.
	Don't let them, Ron.
	All right.
	Thank you, guys.
	God bless both of you.
	Keep doing what you do.
	DeSantis for Attorney General under the Trump administration.
	Now you're cooking with gas.
	I like that.
	I'm Sebastian Gorky.
	You've been listening to America First one-on-one wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
	Keep your head in a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.

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