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Oct. 26, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Fetterman Crashes and Burns in Debate
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That, you outdid yourself.
I think that was a child's xylophone.
Can you tell us a little bit more about that wonderful, wonderful piece of music?
Oh, I just found it deep into the files that we have here saved.
Oh, all right, all right, well, well done, well done.
I only gave that task to him about 30 minutes ago and he did it just fine.
All right, let's talk about the thing that the mainstream lying legacy media does not want you to see.
Jeff, you dug deep for the Yesterday's debate between Dr. Oz and Federman in Pennsylvania.
This is a senatorial seat that could decide the Senate.
This could be the 51, the 52nd, massively important debate.
So it was everywhere on the internet, correct?
No, it was not at all.
It was even tough to find on YouTube, which has everything live.
What?
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I mean, this is Dr. Oz's race!
I mean, the left love Fetterman, so why was it hard to find?
Because they didn't want anybody to watch it, that's why.
Maybe because of this.
This is how it opens.
This is Fetterman at the... Let me just preface this.
At the beginning of the debate, this is the first thing that Fetterman says.
Cut six.
You're running for a seat that could decide the balance of power in Washington.
What qualifies you to be a U.S.
Senator?
You have 60 seconds.
Hi.
Good night, everybody.
Is it just me?
Eric, did Federman, as he's opening his first comment, say, good night, everybody?
Maybe in his mind he did a little time warp of one hour into the future.
I don't know.
But that was just the beginning of We all thought that maybe we were over-hyping it too much, that he might actually just be okay and debunk, oh I got no health problems.
It was better than any of us could have hoped how bad it was.
It was unreal.
That was the first thing he said.
Alex, did I hear incorrectly, did he say goodnight everybody?
He did say goodnight.
I mean, I was at least expecting maybe a good evening, but he said goodnight.
Guy, did he say goodnight?
Sir, he said goodnight.
My assumption is possibly he is very exhausted and he can't wait to just go back to his... He was exhausted at the beginning.
Jeff, what did he say?
Was he just having a joke there?
I think he was just starting his concession speech because the debate actually happened.
The race is over.
All right.
A little 13 days early by way of a concession speech.
But it didn't get much better.
Here are 35 seconds from Fetterman explaining to you, the people of Pennsylvania and America, why he is fit to serve as a senator.
Play cut, cut nine.
To me, for transparency, it's about showing up.
I'm here today to have a debate.
I have, you know, speeches in front of 3,000 people in Montgomery County, you know, all across Pennsylvania, big, big crowds.
You know, I believe if my doctor believes that I'm fit to serve, And that's what I believe is appropriate.
And now with two weeks before the election, you know, I have run a campaign and I've been very transparent about being very open about the fact we're in use captioning.
And I believe that again, my doctors, the real doctors that I believe in, they all believe that I'm ready to be served.
I don't speak Federman.
What did he say there Eric?
I use closed captioning therefore vote for me?
What was that?
To me it was at the very end where he says I'm ready to be served.
Like not I'm ready to serve, I'm ready to be served.
By the way, for those who couldn't find the video because it is being deep-sixed, I think the bleach-bit shredders are working overtime at YouTube.
They actually provided him seven-foot-wide closed-caption screens that the audience couldn't see, but he could see that he demanded that... Give him credit.
Give Dr. Oz credit.
Dr. Oz actually agreed to those terms to give him basically cue cards because his stroke has so affected him that he cannot process audio.
His ears do not process.
Forget about what comes out of his mouth.
He can't process audio.
And he actually brings it up in the debate.
And what do they do afterwards?
You know what he did afterwards?
This is delightful.
So you have a guy who's a medical doctor.
Yeah, albeit a reality TV star, who very graciously says, You want us to put in closed captioning?
You want us to pay to have extra technology?
Somebody typing in the questions so you can read them as they are being said by the hosts and the moderators?
And they do that and they agree.
And Fetterman crashes and burns.
And what does Fetterman do?
This is stunning.
Fetterman He blames the Close Captioning Company.
His campaign today said, oh, they didn't put the words on there correctly.
They didn't put on there the things that the moderators were saying, which is a lie.
They have already officially responded.
The Close Captioning Company has responded.
But that doesn't matter to the lying legacy media.
Who's Bob Casey, Jeff?
You say Senator Bob Casey.
Should I know who this person is?
He's the other senator from Pennsylvania.
Why haven't I heard of him?
He is not known very well at all.
That's never a good sign, is it?
No, the only time he was somewhat popular is when Trump made fun of him before Sleepy Joe.
He was the original.
He called him Sleepy Bob Casey.
Sleepy Bob!
The first Sleepy!
Okay, this is what a Democrat senator had to say about Good Night Fetterman's performance.
Cut to ten.
I think that message came through very clearly.
I think his answers were very direct.
I think there was some real question on the other side about a number of answers where there didn't seem to be a yes or no.
But I think John did very well.
Right.
The problem was Dr. Oz, the person who can actually speak.
He is the problem.
It's funny why they get a Democrat Senator to be the talking head about somebody who wants to be a Democrat Senator.
That's perfectly unbiased.
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Let's play it.
It really is.
Oz has no excuse at this point as far as I'm concerned.
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Alright, is Chris Comrex?
Phone?
What do you mean phone?
What do you mean phone?
Man, I'm sorry.
I just got off a plane.
So I'm literally here in the airport.
Oh, nobody believes you.
He's in his basement at home.
He can't be asked to plug in his comrades.
I mean, as soon as we hear his wife faking the announcement, and we are boarding on the plane to San Diego.
Yes, we know.
I do.
I had her practice the whole no liquid containers, no aerosol sprays riff.
Where are you going?
Where are you coming from?
I just came in from Chicago, actually.
I had a little family business to attend to yesterday, and so it was a quick up and down.
So I'm back, but just landing.
So I told Jeff, I was like, I think I landed three on the button.
So it worked out.
Nice.
All right.
Come in with Fetterman's Goodnight again, all right?
Look at that!
And I'm going to do PhD first, all right?
Yeah, come in with it and then I'll do PhD and then I'll go to Chris.
And I'm sending you an image you have to use for PhD, alright?
I'm putting a buffer and you should have received it now!
Because I give you 50 seconds to make buffers and that is a lot of time!
Right, Jeff?
50 seconds, a lot of time.
Plan time, plan time.
It's like when I say I need a cut 20 seconds out.
Yeah, get me that cut, will you?
Just, you know.
We have... No, that was Satchmo.
That was the last song he recorded.
We have all the time.
Oh, actually, I heard another one.
Oh, yeah.
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Great to talk to you again.
It's been so long.
It's been at least a week since I spoke to you.
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Okay, so you are Mr. Philly Politics.
You are the person the people of Philadelphia wake up to.
Just give us your analysis, please.
I knew going into this thing, what I said on the show yesterday, before this thing even happened was, I said, don't expect this to be a debate.
Don't expect this to be anything but a sympathy play.
And in fact, that's exactly what it was.
Going into it, for instance, I kept this tweet because I wanted to read it to you when I knew I was going to come on.
Charlotte Alter, the senior political correspondent for Time, tweeted this ahead of the debate last night.
Ahead of the Fetterman debate tonight, it's worth remembering a couple of things.
He's never been a good debater, even before the stroke.
Fetterman's vibe is that he talks like a normal person, and normal people don't normally speak in fluent, memorized paragraphs.
These people were talking about him, Seb, like they were his parents.
Hang on, hang on.
This woman from Time, I'm sure in your amazing collection of tweets, you have many, many tweets of her saying the same thing about Republicans, right?
I seem to have misplaced those.
This place offers kindness and genteel forgiveness for people like Herschel Walker, who maybe aren't as nimble on their feet at all.
In fact, wasn't it the New York Times that read the English language was the biggest loser of the debate between Walker and Warnock or something like that?
I think they took a shot at Herschel Walker's speech, if memory serves.
Yes, they did.
All right, so overall, here we have a photograph of me with the man last weekend in Philly, absolutely superb at the Fuge.
I want to talk about that event because that kind of opened my eyes to some of the things happening in Pennsylvania.
But let's continue with the debate, Chris.
So talk to us about, you know, it's easy to talk about Fetterman because it was an utter disaster.
The fact that they actually agreed to have him on stage surprises me.
Talk to us, however, talk to our three million listeners about Oz's performance.
I think Oz did very, very well.
I think, obviously, they wanted to talk almost exclusively, when it came to him, about abortion, which, as you know, moderators choose the questions, and so abortion got more questions than crime.
Philadelphia is awash in historic crime, and abortion is not a primetime issue for voters, and yet that's the media's favorite subject.
So they made him talk a lot about that.
They made him talk about, you know, pills and products he sold when he was a television show host.
You know, but other than those things, you know, they tried to tie him to Trump.
Those are sort of the big three, if I had to hold up three big issues that they hoped would make Oz look bad.
But on balance, I will be honest that I thought these moderators really pounded Fetterman substantively on things like fracking, saying, you have actually said the words, I am against all fracking.
And then he just stood there blathering last night and said, oh, no, I never said that.
I'm for fracking.
Yeah, we actually have that cut.
This is cut eight.
This is Fetterman lying to the people of Pennsylvania after being against fracking his whole career.
Cut eight.
You're saying tonight that you support fracking, that you've always supported fracking.
But there is that 2018 interview that you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all.
So how do you square the two?
I do support fracking and I don't.
I don't.
I support fracking and I stand and I do support fracking.
Wow, that's really convincing, Chris, right?
Do the people of Pennsylvania buy that?
No, just gibberish.
And I'm not even trying to be funny.
You know, there were numerous times that Fetterman was totally incoherent.
Oz made a very insightful observation, actually.
Oz reminded everyone Fetterman wants to end the filibuster, for instance.
Fetterman even interrupted Oz to say that he was right.
And that's when Oz astutely pointed out that an end to the filibuster opens the door for Democrats to pack the Supreme Court, for instance.
That was a great moment, I thought.
Setterman was basically scored last night on showing up.
That's how all the left is talking about him today is, look, he didn't even have to show up.
And his condition?
Why, he didn't have to go, and he went, and isn't that great?
Wow, congratulations.
He's breathing and he's got a pulse.
That qualifies you to be a Senator, I guess, if you're a Democrat.
We've only got a minute left.
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Please say hi to the gang, and he did give me a rather good cigar.
But tell us why that night... I'd been in four cities in four nights with our Battleground Talkers Tour.
Philly was electric, Chris.
I mean, it was the best.
And when you stood on stage, oh my gosh, that city loves you, Chris.
So there's hope for Philly.
There's hope for PA.
I know there's a great hope in this town.
Look, this state has been locked down.
It's been governed by the worst of the worst.
It's been governed by Democrats.
It's a Washington crime.
I feel very, very good about this.
I think that when we wake up the day after the election, I don't think it's going to be nearly as tight as they say.
That's my gut.
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No. uh Uh, titles?
Um... What should we do?
What should we do?
For the monologue, I mean, shoot.
There's just too many choices.
Yes, Federman actually said that.
America first, what's your name?
And then for Seagal?
Well, Fetterman is breathing.
Oh, man.
Thank you.
He makes Biden sound coherent, that's the thing.
Even Biden doesn't have moments that are that bad.
It's the long, awkward pause after every question.
And he didn't even realize that, that, that question was for him.
I think that might've been part of it.
Yeah.
But then his campaign put it on the same and like, Oh, it's the fault of the closed captioning.
It didn't work.
Like, I'm like, that's, that caused you to like babble incoherently.
Biden would have destroyed him in a debate last night.
Not even as a joke.
It's not a joke.
That's not a joke.
No, not a joke.
He would have said that a hundred times, but he was still beat him.
It means these polls are garbage, too, because they wouldn't have put him out there if he was up.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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It's, yes, it's to record.
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JJ, welcome back, JJ.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Great show.
I just wanted to say, I think that Fetterman has obvious trouble understanding the meaning of words.
Like, I think he meant, exchange the word always for never.
He wants to, he meant to say, I never wanted fracking.
I was never for fracking.
And he said the word always.
But I don't believe that, truly.
No.
But we have to quit using their lingo, the progressives, calling them progressive.
They're regressive.
AOC wants to do away with cows and airplanes, put us back on the Stone Ages.
They're anti-civilization and anti-life and family and God.
And cows shouldn't even exist because they're supposedly causing flagellants that's too high for a carbon footprint.
I don't know where the PETA people are when we need them, but it's ridiculous.
Yeah, they are.
They truly are against science.
You look at Fauci, they truly are against progress.
There's that joke, I don't know who cracked it first, but it's a classic one.
Have you heard this one, JJ?
What did Democrats use before they used candles?
I don't know.
What did they use?
Electricity.
Right, exactly.
Exactly.
They are anti-science, anti-progress and that's just who they are.
We've got to come up with a better name for them.
I know we had a while where we were getting you guys to You know, come in with your recommendations.
I think, what was it?
Was it Judy who came up with demon crats?
Because they're not liberals.
They're not just leftists.
They really want to destroy everything that is sacred, everything that is good, including real science, real technology, real advancement and energy.
Which is, of course, there's one thing that's the lifeblood of all industry.
It's the lifeblood of all economy.
If you don't have energy, You can't actually make anything unless your product is wooden flutes that you carve by hand.
You're not making anything without energy.
So you're absolutely right.
Let's go to Brooklyn, Alex, Line 2.
Happy Wednesday!
Oh yes, happy Wednesday to you too.
Thanks so much for taking the call.
You know, they didn't call Dr. Oz a doctor during the debate and I think the reason for that is because They kind of switched around what the word doctor means because Dr. Jill Biden is called a doctor when she isn't.
So if she's a doctor, then Dr. Oz isn't.
Don't forget, don't forget, of course, Ben Carson isn't a doctor either.
One of the most famous neuroscientists to perform the first separation of co-joined twins in America.
He's never, he's just Ben Carson.
He's never Dr. Carson either.
Right, because if you The bottom line is if you're on the right side of the political aisle, then you get to be called a doctor, just like the science only fits, you know, where it fits.
And if the vaccines don't work, it still works because they say it does whatever.
But here's the other thing about Fetterman.
I think the reason why he's ahead in the polls, even though he's like 1%, it could be it's not true, but Dr. Rao should be ahead like 100%, 100 points ahead.
I think the reason is because we're running against some of the wrong issues.
I don't think that Democrats care about the fact that he had a stroke or that He's doing terrible mentally.
I would do the same thing if I was a Democrat.
Say if Ron DeSantis or Trump ran for president against Bernie Sanders, and during the campaign Trump gets a stroke, I would still vote for Trump over Ron DeSantis because of the issues.
So what should they be running on instead, Alex?
Well, we're mentioning the disastrous policies and beliefs of Fetterman, but we should be pounding more on the I think that's what Oz is doing.
Oz is being very, very gracious.
I'm a radio show host.
I can talk about Fetterman's health.
Oz is being so helpful.
He's actually saying, OK, you want closed captions?
Here's closed captions.
But he's talking about crime.
He's talking about jobs.
He's talking about COVID.
So I think he gets it, Alex.
But thank you.
Thank you for your call.
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We don't have an economic cut, do we?
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16 and 17?
Go ahead.
We won't nominate Trump because we want to win.
That new swing voter in American politics is the suburban voter.
And it's really clear the suburban voter doesn't like Trump, but they like Republicans.
So I think anybody not named Trump, I think, is so much more likely to win the White House for us.
We're going to want to win the White House so badly and beat the Democrats.
And we know we're so much more likely to lose with Trump because of the fact that he's not popular with suburban voters.
that we're going to want to win.
And that's why I think we've got a great stable of candidates, any of whom are really capable of not just getting the nomination, but winning the general election.
And then here's 17.
Are you a DeSantis guy?
I like all of them.
Look, I'm not one of these things.
I like Ron, I like Glenn Youngkin, I like Mike Pompeo, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, you name it.
Any one of these candidates would make a fine president, and most importantly, will win the White House.
And why would we want to risk giving the nomination to somebody that we know?
We haven't lost, my party hasn't lost this much this fast than we have with Trump.
We lost the House, the Senate, and the White House in the span of two years.
Yeah.
You want the mics off, Seb?
A piece of scum.
Yes.
Yeah.
Mics off to the...
Thank you.
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We're in a mess now.
This isn't going to be fixed.
The economy is in a disastrous state.
The worst we've seen for decades and decades.
The stock market is in a mess.
401ks are plummeting.
So what do you do?
How do you transition out of the savings you may have?
And how do you secure yourself against being whacked by the tax authorities when you're Investing or reinvesting.
The people that I trust are the Cornerstone Real Estate team that have an amazing system that provides you with tax deferment and we are joined today by their Vice President David Kangas.
David, welcome back to America First!
Dr. Gorka, thank you for having me today.
All right, so there's so much concern and it's all reasonable, it's all justified out there.
You look at the market, you look at instability, you look at stocks and shares.
So explain to us why this system, whether it's the Delaware Statutory Trust or whether it is this special 1031 tax deferment system, why this is something people who understand the liabilities of the current market look at this and say, you know, I'm going to go with that.
Yeah, that's really a great question.
And the first response I would have is keep in mind that real estate is not directly correlated to the stock market.
So for those that have real estate, they are looking to exit that for a number of reasons.
You know, the world has just kind of gone sideways.
They are looking to kind of capture that exit value.
A 1031 exchange into a DST can be a great option.
But beyond that, those who have been invested in the stock market, they're looking to sell their business, they're very concerned about what's about to happen, and they are looking to, you know, take an exit.
If they have capital gains, Dr. Gorka, they can shelter that by investing into Opportunity Zone funds, which are literally helping to rebuild American communities across the country.
All right, so if somebody wants to exit and they want to sell something, there's this option, an opportunity zone, that I understand was made possible thanks to the Trump administration.
I'm not an investment guy, so talk to us.
What are these opportunity zones and what kind of things are you investing in, David?
Yeah, that's a great question.
So when we say an opportunity zone, you know, essentially these are communities around the country that the governors of each state have identified that they want to focus some redevelopment effort on.
And so when people come in and they're investing in a fund, These funds are building, in many cases, multifamily properties.
They are building life science buildings.
They are building things in these neighborhoods to help increase the value of those neighborhoods and therefore increase the economy there in the local area.
What kind of properties?
What kind of quality of properties are we talking about?
Well, when we're talking about building something new, we are talking about generally Class A multifamily properties, which is what a lot of these will be, but not exclusively.
Some of them, we're building student housing.
You know, Dr. Gorka, this is not the kind of student housing you and I went in when we went to school.
This is highly amenitized.
Our kids are a little spoiled.
These are beautiful properties right across from the universities where our kids are being educated to take care of the future of this country.
There are, you know, many industrial properties.
There's self-storage.
There's things like that that are going on.
But across the country, there's over 8,000 different opportunity zones or these communities.
And so there's a lot of different kind of funds that are building a lot of different kind of assets.
And how much money, if you want to do this, how much money are we talking about investing?
Well, the funds themselves are raising hundreds of millions and even billions of dollars each.
But investors can invest as low as $50,000 to be a part of these funds and also to help shelter their capital gains from the sale of their other equities.
Explain why you have this tax deferment.
How does that work?
Because I presume this is perhaps the most attractive thing about the 1031s.
Yeah, well, the Opportunity Zone, strictly speaking, is not 1031.
But going back, as you and I both know, historically when someone sold some kind of equity, other than real estate, there was no safe harbor.
They had to pay that capital gains tax.
So, you know, along with the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and as you rightly said, you know, Ivanka Trump championed this, There was an opportunity to incentivize investors to say, hey, I have these capital gains, and if I reinvest that money into these Opportunity Zone funds, I can defer the taxes due on that.
Now, it's not in perpetuity just until the end of the tax year 2026, but they get to defer those taxes due and help rebuild America.
Super exciting.
What is the market doing for you guys?
Are more and more people searching out to use your services?
Well, I would say absolutely.
On the 1031 side, you know, with all the inflation, with the interest rates, that's definitely having an impact on the market.
On Opportunity Zone funds, we're seeing a lot of people right now, especially here in the fourth quarter of the year before the tax year ends, they're looking to shelter their capital gains from this year, especially as we talked about with the uncertainty of what 2023 might bring.
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No. .
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You mentioned price going after price-gouging corporations.
How do you plan to do this?
while jacking up prices for all of us.
How do you plan to do this, sir?
You mentioned price going after price gouging corporations.
How do you plan to do this?
You have 30 seconds.
Exactly.
We have to keep pushing back on that.
And he would never make that choice to fight for families here in Pennsylvania.
He has never met an oil company that he doesn't swipe right about.
What on earth is he babbling about?
Is he trying to have sex with oil companies?
I mean, seriously, this man needs to be in rehab.
You know, sorry for the stroke.
Get medical attention.
Go to rehab.
See if you can fix yourself.
What are you doing?
Let's go back to your calls.
Let's go to Brooklyn.
Judy!
Happy Wednesday.
Hey, happy birthday, Dr. G. Thank you.
But I do not share the same birthday as Hillary.
My birthday was on Saturday.
Thank you very much.
I know.
And did you get a little bit more mature?
No, I deny that.
I have the mental age of a 14 year old and I always will.
Thank you very much, Judy.
That was last year.
Yes, I'm still 14 and I will always be 14 in my mind.
I may look like an old bastard, but I'm still 14 inside.
I want you to know, I feel the same way.
But anyways, I have a cold, so I don't sound like me.
It's me, but I'm under the weather.
You know, Alex is calling, so I said, oh boy, I've got to call and say this.
Something came in my mind.
Here's another pseudo-doctor, Dr. Fauci Frankenstein.
Yes!
You know, Dr. Fauci?
Could you imagine if he was your general practitioner, if that was your doctor?
He's a monster.
But you know, I'll tell you something.
This whole Fetterman thing, first of all, it belongs on a comedy skit at SNL better than in real life.
I can't believe it's happening.
Fetterman had a stroke.
And Biden, he had two brain surgeries.
He had two brain aneurysms.
Two brain aneurysms.
Yes, yes.
Yes, so Dr. Gorgolitsyn, so these two are useful idiots, as far as I'm concerned, for the party of insanity and destruction.
They're just a bunch of democratic dimwits.
What should I tell you?
They are, they are.
So you've got a bit of a cold today, Judy?
Yes, I do.
Jeff, Jeff, what does she have to do if she's got a little sniffle, Jeff?
What did you teach me?
Zinc.
Did you take your zinc today, Judy?
Um, I think I did.
Yeah, I did.
Thank you.
But I also take, I take echinacea, golden seal, I take vitamin C with cristatin.
I'm busy.
Hot tea, whatever.
I missed you.
It's your fault.
I missed you.
Oh, see?
What a sweetie pie.
Well, I'm back now, but take some zinc just in case.
I learned that from Jeff.
It's also really good for that thing that, whatever, you know, escaped from that lab in China.
The Wuhan zinc messes with its capacity to get into your cells.
So feel better, my friend.
A lot of hot tea, a little bit of honey, a little bit of lemon.
Mm, it's just right.
We'll be back with our West Coast warrior princess, Jennifer Horn, who did such an amazing job yesterday.
And lots, lots more, especially from you.
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Hello, hello.
Hello.
Anyone there?
Yes, we're here.
Okay, great.
Yeah, I'm trying to call in on Skype.
Hey, Jet, they're trying to call on Skype.
It's the Salem News Arlington one, right?
Yeah.
Uh, he said call again, please.
It's calling right now.
You know, this...
The man who sadly bears the title President of the United States...
It's okay.
He's got his fifth vaccination.
I thought the pandemic was over.
Didn't he tell us that?
Fauci's back in the news as well.
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Just 13 days for the election.
We'll have all that and more.
Stay tuned.
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I'd like to endorse Jennifer Horne as the next California State Governor.
I second that motion, James.
I second that motion.
America first.
MAGA-nificent.
So I'd like to endorse Jennifer Horn as the next California State Governor.
I second that motion, James.
I second that motion.
America first.
Mega-nificent.
Hello?
Hello?
Hi, can you hear me?
Yes.
Hello, Jen.
Yes, we can hear you.
Long time no talk, right?
I know, long time no chat.
What was that?
I said long time no chat.
Long time no chat, indeed.
Yep, Seb is back.
Good.
Ooh, and I talked to the video people, and so they said... Mic's are on, by the way.
That's okay.
They assured me that we could use the studio.
Oh, nice!
Next time.
So this isn't the studio that Prager uses.
What was the reason yesterday?
Because they had Julie doing a rehearsal in there.
Julie Hartman was doing some sort of rehearsal yesterday.
Oh, okay.
And you said this is a radio studio that has been, like, modified for video.
You said it's not the same set that Prager uses.
Okay, so this studio that I'm in...
Mm-hmm.
Is CRN.
This is my day job with my dad.
So it's a totally different location.
And then yesterday, Salem, that was Salem's, like, studio that had not been upgraded yet.
Uh-huh.
But then the one you're referring to is a third one?
The one that I'm in for the Morning Answer.
Yeah, that studio is really used for production.
So the Morning Answer studio we could have used, but they had a show in there yesterday too, so.
All right.
Look at that.
Okay.
Yeah, he's about to sit down.
But now at least we know.
All righty.
Kick the cameras back on.
Alrighty.
Eighty seconds.
There he is!
Favorite guest host!
Hello!
Hello!
Thank you.
How was your day?
My four days.
Good.
Yeah.
Tired.
Good.
But I'm good.
I bet.
Lots of teleprompter reading.
People in the Rubble chat saying, Jen Horn for governor.
I love it!
Yes!
Let's do it!
Let's do it.
I'm sure Grant would support that.
You know, because you mentioned the other day how Grant would... He has to be the Attorney General of California then.
Absolutely.
Alright, alright, alright.
Alright.
We'll do it.
Standby.
Forty seconds.
Dolly and Newsom.
Did you, Jen?
Oh, I'm sorry?
The debate between Dolly and Newsom.
Yeah, it was not great.
I never watched it.
I didn't catch it.
It was not good.
I felt bad.
He's a good guy, though.
Dolly.
Alright.
Not coming in with anything, Seb?
Mm-mm.
Alrighty.
20 seconds 20 seconds
.
So I'd like to endorse Jennifer Horne as the next California state governor.
I second that motion, James.
I second that motion.
America first.
Maga-nificent.
Motion carried, I do believe.
Let's have her as the governor.
We get that guy.
She's training up.
What's his name?
Grant something.
Yes, Stinchwell can be the AG.
It's that time of the week.
I think you may have heard of this lady before because she hosted all three hours of my show yesterday as I was in a film studio.
She is the one and only Jennifer Horne, CRN Talk Radio.
Welcome back.
It's been so long.
I know, long time no talk.
Well, for us it has been, but it was so nice to fill in for you yesterday.
We missed you, but we didn't burn the place down, I hope.
I heard you were in fine fettle.
You are refreshed from your trip to Hawaii and you had a lot of fun.
It was a great trip to Hawaii, and you know what's really funny?
This is not great, but for the people, I was on the island of Maui, and what was stunning is that when you think about Hawaii, you think, okay, they've got it all made over there.
The only problem is that they have to pay a lot of money for gas.
Do you know that California is paying a dollar more on average per gallon of gasoline than Hawaii?
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I've been to Hawaii.
So California is the biggest state, the biggest economy in America, and it's a rather large piece.
It is connected to the rest of America.
Hawaii's a little island, three and a half hours flight away, that has to have everything, everything, even the tins of spam have to be flown in or shipped in there.
If you know Hawaii, you understand that reference.
Did I just hear you right?
That the little island of Hawaii has cheaper gas than California?
Typically when we go to Hawaii, because I hadn't been in three years, every year I go with the job that I do with my dad, we have a radio business as well.
And so they're so kind, they send us for a week every, almost every year over the last 10 years or so.
And whenever I go to Hawaii, I always go, oh, those gas prices, I can't imagine.
Now they're a dollar cheaper than what I'm paying in California.
It's ridiculous.
They're paying over $5.
We're still paying over $6 in California.
Help me out, Jeff.
I have a job with Salem, and I get sent to Philly, to Ganja downtown.
She works for CRN Talk, and she gets to go to Hawaii.
How does that work, Jeff?
And don't we have an affiliate in Honolulu, I think?
Can you just fix that for me, Jeff?
Go and fix that for me.
We'll do a station event.
Yes, let's have a station event in Hawaii.
Let's make our own town hall.
We'll make our own talkers tour, and we'll all go to Hawaii.
That would be great.
All right, we've got so much to discuss.
You've sent me some crazy, crazy stories from California.
But I guess, you know, lots of debates out there.
Let's talk about some things that are extra Californian.
Did you know, did you try to find clips from the Fetterman debate?
Because Mr. G had a bit of a challenge, because for some reason, mm, They didn't want to post the video of the Fede Minol's debate, Jen.
It was horrific.
So we talked about it yesterday on your program.
We were previewing it.
We had Tony Bruno on to preview it.
And I thought, all right, I'm going to sit down and watch this.
I mean, it was hard to watch.
Are you surprised that his campaign agreed?
Because the only reason I can think is that Jeff pointed this out.
The polls must be completely lying to us.
And they're so desperate.
They said, OK, let's do the debate.
I, you know, already half the reason they pushed the debate so late is because already half of the ballots in Pennsylvania have already been turned in.
But I have to say, whether it is John Fetterman's wife, whether it is Jill Biden, whether it is Dianne Feinstein's husband, these people need to be questioned as to what is going on to let your family member, the person that you love most on the planet, I mean, to allow this to happen?
It's cruel.
It is abusive.
My grandmother went through a stroke.
It is awful.
I feel sorry for John Fetterman from a medical perspective.
He is a horrific candidate.
Always has been.
When it comes to his policies, he is as far left as you can get.
And he's awful already.
But you add in the medical limitations and the fact that the media has propped this guy up and the one reporter from NBC who blew the whistle and said, hey, this guy has problems communicating.
That person was called mean-spirited.
The mean one are the people around John Fetterman who are allowing him to continue in this race.
It was brutal to start the debate by saying good night, everybody.
I mean, it's just... All right, let's play that.
Cut six.
Play cut.
You're running for a seat that could decide the balance of power in Washington.
What qualifies you to be a U.S.
Senator?
You have 60 seconds.
Hi.
Good night, everybody.
Now, let's just be, you know, brutally honest here.
What they're doing, which is how they try to explain their way out of it, and this is the pre-Washington post-Puff piece, it's the post-pieces afterwards, they're trying to counter it in terms of We are empathetic.
We are promoting handicapped people.
No, no, no, no.
This has nothing to do with ableist people or pro-handicapped.
This is about one thing, Jen.
Power.
Am I wrong?
It's exactly what it's about.
It's about them thinking that they can limp this guy through to the end.
If he couldn't finish his term, once he gets there, they could appoint someone to take over for him.
They're using him as a pawn.
And to now come out and say that the teleprompter was bad, This shows the arrogance of not only Fetterman, but the people around him.
He's the one that needed the closed captioning, and apparently, according to Nextstar, he only showed up for one of the rehearsals.
He didn't even show up for both of the rehearsals, and now the campaign is saying he looked bad because there was a delay in the closed captioning.
The problem is, he is a flawed candidate.
He had bad policies to begin with.
He needs to focus on his healing and his recovery.
The time is for him to get out.
And I don't know, if this were my family member, I mean, God forbid this is one of your family members, would you say, don't do this on a national stage.
Don't do this in public.
Let's get you fixed up and ready to go again.
It's not about giving up.
It's just about knowing the timing.
And this is just, it is all wrong.
That's what I said just 20 minutes ago.
This guy should be doing his rehab, of course, if I had a family member.
Seriously, it's stressful enough for somebody to do a live TV debate, but then somebody who's got the problems he has.
All right, it wasn't just Pennsylvania, it was New York.
I've got to do this because he's a buddy of mine, and oh my gosh.
The good Lord may make this possible.
Lee Zeldin could become the next governor of New York and he crushed it in front of the appointed governor that is Kathy Hochul.
Cut Eleven, our good buddy Lee Zeldin.
Yeah, I mean, listen, I stated that the first day that I'm in office, I'm going to declare a crime emergency and suspend Castle's Bail and these other pro-criminal laws, because there is a crime emergency.
My opponent thinks that right now, there's a polio emergency going on, but there's not a crime emergency.
Different priorities that I'm hearing from people right now, they're not being represented, from this governor, who still, to this moment, we're halfway through the debate, she still hasn't talked about locking up anyone committing any crimes.
Okay.
Anyone who commits a crime under our laws, especially with the change we made to bail, has consequences.
I don't know why that's so important to you.
I don't know why locking people up if committed crimes is so important to you.
I bring this up because, you know, New York is like California.
I mean, we, you know, too many of us have just written it off as Dems control it forever.
However, now the tide could be turning and this is big.
This is really big and if you watched this you could see her actually swallow.
It looks like she has an Adam's apple actually.
I need to point that out because anything is possible these days.
But, I mean, you could see her swallow hard when he started talking about crime.
And what I think is really short-sighted by how Kathy Hochul presented herself, she spent the whole summer talking about Trump and trying to tie Trump to Lee Zeldin, which I don't even think is an albatross.
I don't know why the Democrats do, but they do for whatever reason.
And then, of course, going about the abortion stuff.
And they've totally ignored the fact that safety, whether it's economic safety, freedom, and then our own safety, physical safety in our communities, is what's at the forefront of this election.
And when she says, I don't know why this is so important, I don't know why you, you know, you can't understand.
The guy was almost, I mean, somebody tried to kill him.
They had a knife up on a stage trying to stab him.
Of course he cares.
There was a shooting on his front lawn when his daughters were home.
It matters to him.
It's personal.
Like it matters to all of us because we see our neighborhoods and our personal safety being threatened every day.
Yeah, we're going to talk about one of those stories that made me think of the story that you told about a certain lady camping out in your backyard.
We're talking to Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer and the Inland Empire Answer, AM 870, AM 590 The Answer.
And I'll be out there in, oh, how many days?
I'm counting them down.
Four days.
I can't believe it.
We've got to go trans across the continent again.
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Mike's is still hot on Rumble.
Oh.
Hot, hot, hot.
Are you coming early?
Am I going to get to see you while you're in town?
Or are you just coming in and out?
I'm going to go and see my daughter in San Francisco the day before.
Oh, good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what takes you to Hawaii, Jennifer Horn?
So my dad's show, the What's Cookin' Today show, goes on remote from the Hawaii Food and Wine Festival.
What?
And yeah, they paid for us to go.
It was very lovely that we stayed at the Westin.
They paid for you to go and they paid for you to eat good food, right?
Yeah, yep.
And so we were there broadcasting.
We did shows every day, which, you know, it's work, but you're in the most beautiful office on the planet.
We were right outside, right in the, like, right on the sand.
It was just, it was incredible.
And then The Weeknd brought the Hawaii Food and Wine Festival, so they have different events.
They have, like, a walk-around tasting, and then they have a sit-down dinner where they bring in, this year the theme was people who had won James Beard Awards, AAA-rated stars, and what was it, Beards?
What's a beard?
James Beard Award.
So like the top.
Oh, Michelin stars.
That was the other thing.
So if these chefs had Michelin stars, if they won a James Beard Award, or if they had the AAA rating, then they could provide a course.
And it was really good.
So what is the best thing you ate?
I would say, okay, so I loved, because I'm not a huge seafood fan for the texture reasons, like anything that's kind of soft.
You don't like lobster?
Oh no, lobster is okay.
As long as it's got a texture to it.
So what don't you like, like oysters?
Crab, oysters, I would say, but I'll try anything.
Okay.
And so I had this opah, not Oprah, don't be confused.
Opah's fish, right?
It's fish.
And it had this pineapple, mango, cilantro.
Oh my gosh.
It tasted like Hawaii.
It was just, it was absolutely delicious.
Even the scallops were really good.
Scallops can be really good.
They're easy to screw up, but a good scallop is a good scallop.
These were really good.
Here, I'll show you real quick.
They also had, as a meat eater, this roast that was fantastic at the dinner.
Does your dad cook as well, or just eat?
My dad, I am definitely the chef in the family, although he is the grill master.
So this was the opah, if you can see it.
Oh, isn't that pretty?
That's a big chunk of fish.
It was a lot.
And then this was the... I love mango.
I love cilantro.
Those were the scallops.
Pull it back, pull it back.
Yes.
And then this was the carpaccio.
That I probably didn't love so much.
But this was really good, too.
Look at this.
50 seconds.
What's that?
Is that beef?
What is that?
That's a roast, yeah.
So it was good.
It was fun.
I'm hungry now.
Sorry about that.
All right.
All protein, though.
Hey, at least you're doing that, you know.
It's very keto friendly, that's for sure.
All right, stand by.
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She is Jennifer Horne and Jennifer has a story that I think probably Kind of hit you close to home, given some of the things you've said about life in Los Angeles.
Tell us about pickaxes and women wielding them.
This is crazy.
So this woman, I'm not even sure she's homeless.
She looked like a vampire lady.
I mean, just dressed nicely.
Like, small, tiny thing, but she was wielding a pickaxe.
Did she have fangs?
She did not have any.
Did she look like Elvira?
Any fangs?
The mistress of the night.
She comes up to this house and it's all caught because, you know, everybody's got those ring doorbell cameras right now.
She comes up to the house swinging a pickaxe.
She knocks in a window.
Apparently inside, right in front of that window, is a six-week-old child, like almost just home from the hospital.
The mother-in-law of this man that spoke out about this story said that she saw her coming and she grabbed the baby once.
Within a split second, shards of glass bigger than the baby were actually sitting in the child's bassinet.
I mean, this could have been really, really bad.
So is this a crazy person?
Why are they pickaxing through a glass door?
So that's the big question.
This woman apparently owns many houses in the neighborhood.
The man says he thought maybe it was racially profiled.
It looks from the video like this is a black woman.
He is an Armenian man.
He doesn't know if it's racially motivated, if he was targeted for some reason, or what the story was behind it.
They're still trying to figure it out.
But this woman got arraigned today for a felony property destruction charge.
I mean, it's insane.
People have lost their mind around here.
Before we go to the next story, Jeff, do we have that cut we do from Monday?
Right, Hilary?
Yes.
All right, so I need to get your take on this because it's her birthday, so we need to celebrate the woman who will never be president.
She's back in the news, and I'm sure you discussed this on your show, but we haven't discussed it.
So will you play that cut, Eric?
I know we're all focused on the 2022 midterm elections, and they are incredibly important.
But we also have to look ahead.
Because you know what?
Our opponents certainly are.
Right-wing extremists already have a plan to literally steal the next presidential election.
And they're not making a secret of it.
The right-wing-controlled Supreme Court May be poised to rule on giving state legislatures, yes you heard me that correctly, state legislatures the power to overturn presidential elections.
So it's over two years away and she said that we are going to literally steal the election.
I'm glad it's not metaphorical theft because if it were metaphorical theft I mean what would you do?
I mean at least it's literal.
But I have to get your take.
I hope she's running but Why now?
Why is she doing this?
Why is it Hillary?
You're a communications expert.
I'm curious.
Why is she?
Why is she the biggest election denier in American history making video statements like that?
You know, and she never gets called out for it.
Ted Cruz was brilliant on The View this week, calling out all of the election deniers on the left.
And apparently, according to Whoopi Goldberg and the people at The View, they don't like to hear it.
Those aren't election deniers.
Those are actual people who have been victimized.
Hillary Clinton thinks she was victimized in 2016.
Look, the thing that's scaring me watching this, not only is she wild-eyed Hillary Clinton, But I never thought it would be possible that she would actually be considering another run, and I can't believe I'm going to tell you this, Seb, but how else can you explain the fact that she has been in front of cameras a lot lately talking about the next presidential election?
I think she's got an inflated sense of self.
She is a narcissist, clearly.
I think she is actually dipping her toe in the water.
I agree.
Because she thinks blood is in the water with Biden and she's ready to go in and take what she thinks is rightfully hers.
And I think the DNC probably doesn't want her to run.
No.
But can't stop her.
So it's going to be a political bloodbath on the left.
I told you this a few weeks ago.
We were talking about Gavin Newsom, the governor in my state, jumping into this race, even though just on Sunday when he was debating his opponent, Brian Dolly, for governor in the state, he said, oh, I guarantee you I am not leaving it before my term is over.
I will be here.
He's lying.
If you believe what he says, I have oceanfront property for you in Arizona that I'd love to sell you for a sweet deal.
He is absolutely running.
And he and Kamala Harris are frenemies.
They will tear each other apart.
You add Hillary Clinton into this mix.
Pop the popcorn now, because it's going to get wild, because the DNC will be all behind Gavin Newsom.
You watch this.
They'll be all behind him, but they will not be able to push away Kamala Harris, because she's a woman of color.
They will not be able to push away Hillary Clinton, because she's going to march in no matter what they say, and it's going to be wild.
I just can't wait.
All right, let's get back to the question of homeless people and insanity.
Washing machines, what does that got to do with homeless people, apart from them needing to go to the local laundromat?
So, California, if you've seen it, and a lot of other states, by the way.
Just in Hawaii, homeless people all over the place in Hawaii as well.
It's really, it's a problem, not just in our state anymore, in California.
But these tents have been popping up ever since the COVID pandemic.
Beautiful tents, tents that you would want to go camping in.
And people have now started to decorate them and a picture went viral out of Venice.
It's been all across the national news now where there is a 10-person tent set up.
They've created a little garden for themselves outside with potted plants and there's a washing machine like for clothes next to the tent which they are now siphoning power and they are siphoning water from somewhere that I can guarantee they're not paying for.
Yes.
And they are now washing their clothes, which, believe me, I appreciate because I've stood next to homeless people before and you're happy to know that they're washing their clothes.
But this is just exactly what leftist policies incentivize, Seb.
What they set up now is people who say, you know what?
Rent's really expensive in L.A.
You know, we don't need rent.
We can have a washing machine.
We can steal.
I have friends in the CHP who have said they've gone into encampments where they siphon power and they have big screen TVs, probably stolen, up in their tents.
So you've got a TV, you've got a washing machine, you've got a 10-person tent.
You know, yeah, it's a little inconvenient that you don't have a roof, but the weather's pretty nice in California and no one's telling you to move.
They're not enforcing the camping laws on the streets.
Why not set up shop?
It's free!
Sheer insanity owning California.
I'm going to look for that photograph in the break.
In the meantime, you know what you have to do.
Follow this lady at Jennifer Horn right now.
She's still training up that chappy Grant Stinchfield.
She has the show, The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590.
And I'm going to be with Jen this Sunday.
I can't wait.
And thank you for hosting America First.
Your call is next here on the Salem News Channel.
So who's going to have the TikTok for Sunday?
Bye.
The TikTok?
It'll be... Grant.
No.
What do you mean?
The timing?
The detailed agenda.
I will, it should come from Darla, but as soon as I get it, I will send you what I get, just in case, so that you have it.
And what's the location?
It's not in a car park again?
No, it's at the Hyatt Garden Grove again, so same place as last year.
Good, alright.
And if you get into town early, call me.
I'll be around.
We can grab a cup of coffee or something.
I'll check the flights and I'll text you.
No problem.
Alright, thank you, thank you guys.
See you soon.
Thanks again.
See you this weekend.
Bye.
Travel safely, bye.
Bye.
Alrighty, title for that one.
Yes, Hillary's running.
All right.
Hillary's running.
Do you want to do border battles here? - Sure.
That is the plan.
Trump just announced a rally in Pennsylvania the Saturday before the election.
It's weird that you would pick the guy that can't win to be the guy that tries to win the closest Senate seat.
Oh dear.
So what is that?
That's the 6th?
Saturday the 5th.
The 8th is Tuesday, yeah.
the 8th is Tuesday, yeah.
This is America First.
Countdown to the 2022 Oh, I remember that.
Oh, I remember that.
Two minutes.
Thirteen days.
Ninety seconds.
All right, so I'm gonna use the two Paul Ryan cuts and then go to calls.
All righty.
But opening with border battle.
Mm-hmm.
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Dr. G.
Thank you, Mark Lotta, Vice President Pence's Press Secretary.
Does have a good set of pipes.
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Calvin Ray Howard.
Oh, and our buddy from Ireland is gonna be joining us.
But first, Paul Ryan.
Paul Ryan.
Why is Paul Ryan even allowed to stand in front of a TV camera?
Really?
Stuart Varney, you had to give this Trump-hating loser minutes of time on your show?
Listen to the man who failed in his position on Capitol Hill.
Paul Ryan, cut 16.
Play cut.
We won't nominate Trump because we want to win that new swing voter in American politics is the suburban voter.
And it's really clear the suburban voter doesn't like Trump, but they like Republicans.
So I think anybody not named Trump I think is so much more likely to win the White House for us.
We're going to want to win the White House so badly and beat the Democrats.
And we know we're so much more likely to lose with Trump.
Because of the fact that he's not popular with suburban voters, that we're going to want to win.
And that's why I think we've got a great stable of candidates, any of whom are really capable of not just getting the nomination, but winning the general election.
Anybody, just not Trump, because I hate him!
Hey Jeff, can you help me out?
There's one president in history since 1776 who got more votes as an incumbent president than anybody else.
Who was that again?
Oh, that's the guy that can't win.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Ryan, you disgust Americans.
There's more to come, sadly.
Let's go to our buddy from Ireland by way of New York, Donatio.
Welcome back to America First.
All right, Dr. Gawker.
I'll pardon your Irish.
Donica like Monica.
Donica.
I can't... Donica.
Spell it with a K, please, Jeff.
I'm reading the... I'm reading the call screen.
Donica.
Are you here or are you in Ireland, Donica?
Don't think of Monica Lewinsky when you think of me.
In the Midlands.
In the Midlands.
County Offaly is where I'm from.
So what made you dial in today?
We love hearing your lovely Irish lilt, but it's been far too long, Donica.
Alright, now here's the concern.
Quite often, I'm back in the States on Michaelmas term, or whatever you call it, the first half of the year for the school kids, because of the coaching.
Alright.
Well, with election time, my cousins are showing me the ballot.
And the judges are so important, of course.
Because years ago, one judge, let's say he'd be on the Republican line and the Conservative line, and another one would be on the Democrat line and also on the Liberal line, you know, and cross-endorsed or whatever.
Right.
This year, and last year as well, my cousin said, this year, and I looked at the ballot online, let's say a sir named Dr. Jones, Mr. Jones.
Jones, he's listed Republican, he's listed Democrat, he's listed Liberal, he's listed He's on all four lines, and it goes across all four surnames are listed on every single party line.
Hang on, each candidate has got multiple affiliations?
Yes, doctor.
What?
That's what I mean.
Get in touch with your New York people, because my cousins are very conservative people in our whole circle.
They're saying, listen, they're not voting for any single judge, because if you look at it, every single judge is on every single line.
All right.
I need to look into this.
Stay on the line, Donaka.
We need to find out what the flip is going on in New York.
Thank you.
Let's go to Calvin, Arizona.
Thank you for waiting, Calvin.
Hey, Sebastian.
How are you today?
Good.
Hey, so I just wanted to comment on the pathetic Democratic platform.
It really is quite pathetic.
You mean having only abortion as your platform doesn't impress you, Calvin?
No, not really.
To show you how insane it is, I was having a bite with a friend of mine.
He's a bit left-leaning.
And here's what he told me that, like, it's so preposterous.
He told me that a bunch of people from Trump's inner circle, that they testified under oath that on January 6th, Trump sat around doing nothing but watching TV and sending out incendiary tweets Right.
I'm sure you said to them, Calvin, immediately, you mean the same Donald Trump who offered the Speaker of the House, who's responsible for the security of Congress, to have National Guard troops secure the Capitol, and she refused?
That same Donald Trump?
They're insane, Calvin.
Don't waste your breath.
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Welcome back.
Great to be on, Dr. Gorka.
All right, so can I try... I know you don't do politics.
You are purely an academic, but you did serve in Congress, so you may have the magic decoder ring.
You may be able to translate this for me.
Today, the man who sits in the White House, sadly, said that economy plus tickets on a plane are racist.
Not a joke.
To quote Joe Biden, play cut.
Some airlines, if you want six more inches between you and the seat in front, you pay more money.
But you don't know it until you purchase your ticket.
Look, folks, these are junk fees, they're unfair, and they hit marginalized Americans the hardest, especially low-income folks and people of color.
Now, you actually know economics.
Is the positioning of seats on a plane, does that have to do with Jim Crow?
I'm a little confused.
No, I don't think he quite gets any of it.
Innovation is usually led by entrepreneurs, which involves some wealth and some capital, and all that spills onto the rest of us, luckily, right?
I mean, I got two computers now, cell phones.
These all started as, you know, $100,000 pieces of equipment, and now everyone in America can have, you know, a phone and a computer access and the web.
And it's miraculous.
And so this is just, you know, the standard Marxist pitting Americans against Americans.
But this is the point.
This is the point that immediately came to me.
And you know the historic context.
The first thing that came to me is not senility or politics.
This is Marxism.
To bring class, to bring race into plane tickets, Dave, it's just, it's Marxism.
Yeah, well, they've run out of ideas, and it's kind of ironic.
They're running on a Marxist platform when Xi Jinping had the 20th Communist Party platform this week, and China's cracking up and falling apart.
And they basically, on paper, said they're going full-on Marxist.
They're not going to do any market reforms anymore using markets, right?
So buyer beware.
And they changed all of the peace and harmony language that used to be in that document.
They got rid of all of it, and they put in just outright blatant war language.
Let's stop there.
I'm so glad you raised this.
We didn't rehearse any of this.
We don't have agreed talking points, but Xi Jinping did all of these crazy things at the Party Congress.
The Chinese stock market just crashed the next day.
Explain to our three million listeners from New York to Texas to Washington DC why they should care.
What does it mean that China's got economic problems?
Is it good?
Is it bad?
Can you unpack it for us as the Dean of the Business School?
Yeah, well, they're cracking the number one thing.
Go Google, you know, Peter Zeehan.
I don't love on every other top, but on demographics, he's the best.
He says China's done, right?
They had their one baby policy, and it decimated them.
They got 300% debt to GDP, right?
The U.S.
is about 125%.
They got 300 percent debt to GDP.
The U.S. is about 125 percent.
China's at 300 percent.
They're collapsing.
And so I don't know.
What does that mean for us?
Can we live without them?
Do we need them?
What's the reality?
Oh, no.
We're going to take a hit, but it's about time we took a hit because we never should have been doing business with them to the extent we were, right?
And so I referred to Jamie Dimon the other day on one of the shows because I think that guy is actually intelligent and gets some of this.
Well, and the reason I'm referring to these guys is because there's this thing in American corporate culture called fiduciary responsibility.
So you might have been able to plead ignorance prior, but now the Chinese are on paper Going full-on Marxist economics on paper, declaring war against us.
They made it very clear.
They took out all the peace language.
It's all, get ready for the struggle sessions, in quotes, right, in the last document.
And so now all of our 500 that are woke, the woke stuff's not cute anymore.
The Chinese have declared their intentions.
And now under U.S.
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using your brain, something in short supply over the last decade.
And so it has major consequences for U.S. business right now going forward because shareholders can sue if these companies These giants of Harvard Law School and MBA School continue to mess this country up.
Talking of which, we've got 30 seconds left.
A judge has decreed that by Friday the Twitter deal with Musk has to go through or it goes to court.
What's your expectation?
Is this going to happen?
Are we going to have somebody who believes in freedom of speech in charge of Twitter?
I think so, and he's smart, and he wants to do a multi-platform thing with PayPal and shopping, and so, you know, he's going to get rid of a lot.
He brought a sink into the office and said today, let it sink in.
That's funny.
The guy's got a sense of humor.
I wish he'd do a little less with China.
He's getting me nervous.
Absolutely.
We've got some fascinating internal information, internal letter from Twitter we'll share with all of you.
In the meantime, follow this man.
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Title for Brat?
Something about China?
China's in big trouble.
Did you see they had that ex- President escorted out of it?
Yes.
What was that about?
Somebody who, if I had to guess, somebody he thought was going to challenge him, so he Got rid of him.
And yeah, that was true.
Elon Musk literally walked into Twitter headquarters carrying like a kitchen sink.
Oh my gosh.
He tweeted a video of it and said, let that sink in.
All right.
You've got to send that to me.
Love this man.
Yeah.
It seems like it's going to close.
He seems confident it's going to close.
I do not.
You don't think it's going to go through?
No.
Wow.
Why not?
What do you think is going to happen in the next, like, 48 hours?
What was that thing that came out last week about Biden has to sign off on it?
No, that's the National Security Review.
That doesn't prevent the deal from going through.
But they could use it.
Yeah.
Oh.
America first.
Can you believe it?
They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
How do you say that?
Magnificent.
You don't say it.
We have here the text of a letter from Twitter workers to Elon Musk saying, you can't sack us!
We're afraid you're going to sack us.
One line, we demand to be treated with dignity and not to be treated as mere pawns in a game played by billionaires.
I guess when it's left-wing billionaires, that's OK, right?
But when it's somebody who believes in freedom of speech, you think you get to run the company.
Not how that works.
Please let that deal go through.
Back to your calls, Ray in Livermore, line three.
Welcome, Ray.
First-time listener, long-time caller.
Oh, wait a minute.
That's not right.
Thanks for taking my call, Dr. G. Long-time listener, long-time caller.
How's that, buddy?
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And you opened with a question, why is Hillary popping her whack-a-mole gopher head out of the hole?
You could say it's Trump, but it's not Trump.
Here's a woman who will not let any woman get ahead of her.
as being the first woman president.
Ooh.
There's a movie called Waterboy, and the actress Kathy Bates in the final scene literally goes linebacker and tackles a guy.
Have your guys look for that scene.
You can use that.
That is Hillary Clinton.
That is Hillary?
Yeah, on any woman who tried to get ahead of her as being the first woman president, she is going full-on linebacker, whether it's Harris or Tulsi Gabbard.
You put a name up there, she will do the work.
You know, I think you might have something.
I think it's not, you know, Trump derangement syndrome or just avarice, greed and power.
I think it's just she has to be the first woman.
That's why you're right.
That's why you give us the reports from the tall grass.
Absolutely superb.
I think he's nailed it.
Let's squeeze in one more call before our special guest, Howard, Orange County, line two.
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We shall fight in France.
We shall fight on the seas and oceans.
We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air.
We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
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Absolutely immortal words from the one man who, I think it is fair to say, more than anyone else saved Western civilization.
A man who spent a decade in the wilderness, warning of the dire threat to that civilization from a small Austrian corporal with a peculiar moustache.
I'm talking, of course, of Winston Churchill, the man who helped defeat Adolf Hitler.
Is that spirit still alive?
What are the new existential threats to our civilization?
And what is the significance of what is happening today in Europe?
Breaching of the taboo settled apparently in 1945 that you must not use force to aggrandize your territory.
It's happened multiple times under the presidency of Vladimir Putin, and I'm delighted to have somebody on our show whose podcast, the podcast he co-hosts, is one of my favorites.
They've been guests in studio here in DC.
He's Konstantin Kisin of the Trigonometry Podcast.
Seb, thanks for having me.
I should say, by the way, on Winston Churchill, do you know that I think he's the only or one of very few prime ministers to have been removed from office and then make a return, which is rather relevant at the moment, as you know.
Yes, indeed.
Not only relevant where you are with trust exiting and Potentially Boris coming back.
It's a rather interesting analogue to what may be happening here in the United States.
We've had one president have two terms separated by a little caesura, or a gap, and I think my old boss will be back in the White House in a couple of years' time.
There is nothing new under the sun, but thank you for that reminder.
Also, Churchill was half American.
Most people don't know this.
Most people don't know that the descendant of the Duke of Marlborough's mother was American.
All right, so we have so much to discuss.
Let's put it up there straight away.
A superlative book, bestseller in the UK.
You can order it on Amazon.
Absolutely excellent.
It is Constantine's first book, An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
It was launched just a few months ago when both Constantine and his co-host Francis Foster were here.
In our studio for a chat.
But that's not the topic of this hour.
We will discuss its main arguments.
But the topic is this formidable exegesis that you posted as a tweet thread.
Then, as you often do with your best tweet threads, you turned it into an article on your Substack, which I presume is just constantinkissing.substack.com.
Is that right?
That's right.
Okay, so please guys, you've got to follow a constantinkissin.substack.com and it is your analysis with direct verbatim translations of a speech given by Putin recently to help us understand what in fact is going on.
I, as somebody who spent almost 20 years teaching the US military, You know, there's a very old sore I used to share with them.
If you want to understand your adversary, listen to what they are saying.
It's not rocket science.
Read what they are saying.
The idea that you will make pronouncements as so many do today, commentators with huge audiences, make pronouncements without listening to what either Russia or Ukraine is saying is rank irresponsibility.
So first things first, before we dive in, as you can see, I've highlighted your article quite extensively.
You are a former stand-up comic who has this incredibly successful podcast with Francis today, but you are uniquely, I think truly uniquely Credentialed to do this kind of analysis for familial reasons, for nationality reasons, and also for what you did for 10 years.
So before we dive into Putin's speech, tell us what puts you in this special position.
Well, my mom is Ukrainian.
My dad is Russian.
I was born in Russia.
My wife is Ukrainian.
I used to be, as you say, a professional translator.
And I actually, this isn't the first time I've translated Vladimir Putin's speeches in the noughties.
This was one of the things that I did while also translating things for big banks and legal firms and so on.
So I don't claim any great military expertise.
But as you say, Seb, it seems very odd to me that when we are discussing this conflict in the West, very few people seem to make any reference at all to what people are saying about it in Russia who are making decisions or in Ukraine.
They're sort of attempting to deduce the meaning of things from the ether and attempt to understand it sort of without any reference to what is actually being said, which happened, by the way, as Russia invaded in February.
Vladimir Putin made a 45-minute speech, which it seems to me almost nobody listened to in the West.
And likewise, this speech that I translated a couple of weeks ago when Vladimir Putin and Russia annexed two more regions of Ukraine Again, people didn't seem to really take any notice and it seems to me to be quite important that we should maybe have a look at that.
Well, all the more so because Vladimir Putin, what has he been in office for 21 years now, he's been making speeches about Ukraine.
For 20 years, he's been making speeches about Poland, the Baltic states, as all illegitimate states, which may give you a clue as to whether he's going to use force against them in the future.
So, first observation, and please unpack it.
I'm just going to raise the observation, then you unpack it.
Stunning thing about this speech, as he annexes two more breakaway republics, is the speech isn't about the republics.
It's not even about Ukraine, and it's not even about NATO, the military alliance.
Most of this speech is about what, Konstantin?
It's about the West, which seems to me, again, nobody has really paid any attention to, but it is very important because If you look at the speech, and by the way, he makes some very good points in the speech about the West.
It has to be acknowledged.
And he plays to the culture war discussions very well to both left and right.
He raises things like transgenderism and all sorts of other things.
But his main point about the West is that he is not a fan, as you can imagine, of American hegemony in the world.
He's not a fan of the West's dominance in the world.
His main thrust of that speech is that the West's hegemony and dominance must be overthrown.
He says that the end of the unipolar world, the world in which the United States dominates, is inevitable, and that is what he's seeking to bring about.
And as we discussed just now, what's fascinating to me is when I put this out, the number of Western journalists who covered this subject of the war and Russia and so on, who followed me clearly having never really read the speech, sort of makes me really worried about the way that this issue is being covered.
And it concerns me because We have things, certainly in the UK, I don't know if this is true in America, but it's sort of like pretty refugee runs away from bombs, as opposed to actually talking about what's going on and why, which seems to me quite important.
Yeah, I want to expand upon his discussion of what you translate as the hegemon's tax, how they are Using the West is using finance, technology, banking systems to invade or undermine the sovereignty of Russia.
But first, I'm curious.
You talk about those who read your thread or read your discussion of the piece.
What kind of response have you had in general?
Were you attacked for summarizing it?
Was it positive?
Were people shocked?
What kind of response did you get to your Twitter thread and your Substack article?
I would say the main response was people were blown away by these things that they'd never heard because the Western media had never told them that this is what he was saying.
And I would say that there were quite a few people who probably disagree with mine and your view of Russia and its behavior in the situation, who also felt that they had never heard this either.
So I just think we've been really badly served by our media when it comes to covering this conflict.
All right, we're going to put it up on our feed right now.
The article is, Putin, the end of Western hegemony is inevitable.
So much to uncover.
I find it interesting.
The themes in this, as somebody who spent 20 years looking at another threat group, Al-Qaeda and ISIS, so many of the themes he uses against the West are ones you can read in ISIS propaganda and Al-Qaeda magazines like Inspire.
This idea, and I'm quoting from your article, the West is greedy and seeks to enslave and colonize other nations.
Well, that could have been right out of the Bin Laden, Zawahiri, Al-Baghdadi propaganda machines.
So the comparisons are very, very telling.
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Let's continue your discussion of the peace.
So, give us a potted version, a precis, of what Putin says about the West, especially those things that, sadly, Konstantin, seem to resonate with many who call themselves conservatives and who Seem to have an unhealthy fascination and potential admiration for this former KGB colonel.
So talk to us about Vladimir Putin's description of our civilization.
Well, his argument is that the West takes advantage of its position of power.
And also he spends quite a bit of the speech talking about the what he would and quite a lot of people I think in the West would recognize this as a sort of What sociologist Frank Ferretti calls the West's moral disarmament, the collapse in confidence, the collapse in values, what some people I think on the right might describe as a sort of expanding degeneracy of our culture to some extent.
And Vladimir Putin leans very heavily into that.
As I mentioned, he brings up transgenderism.
He brings up all sorts of other cultural things while emphasizing that Russia is a country that's built on adherence to religious values and traditional cultural norms and so on and so forth.
So his argument is essentially that the West is eroding its own respectability, its own standards.
It no longer upholds the values that it claims to uphold.
And he's playing to both sides in some ways, both of the extremes of Western societies in terms of, you know, the so-called anti-war left and likewise people on the right.
There are segments on both, I think, that that really appeals to.
And I actually saw that in the response to the article in the tweet.
There were people who mistakenly thought that I was posting my translation of his speech in approval.
And it is very funny to me that, you know, particularly with people on the right, there is this sort of sense that, you know, Trad Christian Vladimir Putin is here to save Christendom when this is, of course, a former KGB colonel who has several children out of wedlock with his mistress who lives in Switzerland, who is 30 years his junior.
So this isn't exactly the bastion of family values, I wouldn't think.
Well, let's jump in right here because this is a fact of the last nine months since the war began that disturbs me the most beyond the human carnage and the suffering that we have people who You seem to have a triple digit IQ, who function in everyday life, who actually say this.
I mean, you see this on my social media feeds.
They say Vladimir Putin is fighting evil.
He's not only fighting Nazis, like the little diminutive Jewish comedian who's the president of Ukraine.
He's fighting anti-Christian satanic forces like the World Economic Forum, Karl Schwab, the Davos set.
He's fighting for family values and for Christianity.
How does this happen?
I mean, do people, is there like a black hole?
Have you come to an answer how people seem to forget in the West who this person was for most of his career and what he said after the fall of the Soviet Union, that that moment, quote, was the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century?
How can we be so ignorant just a few years later?
Do you have a hypothesis, Constantine?
Well, I have several.
I think one of them is that quite a lot of young people, you've got to remember, have absolutely no idea who Vladimir Putin is.
I think quite a lot of older people don't really know much about Russia or who he is.
And they are using him to project their own insecurities and concerns about the West, some of which you and I, I think, both share, frankly.
Perhaps not the Klaus Schwab and those extremes, but the loss of confidence and The thing that I've been thinking quite a lot about in recent weeks is if you think about this notion of white privilege and likewise the other side of it, which is white guilt, I've kind of worked out that I don't think it's really anything to do with skin color.
I think what it is about is Western privilege and Western guilt.
And a lot of people are starting to feel now that we've been too powerful, too prosperous, too quote-unquote colonial for too long and the time of atonement is upon us.
You see people are now raising, retweeting these clips from the summer of 2020 of white people kneeling to BLM and so on and so forth.
I think there are quite a lot of people on both left and right who are persuaded by this argument that sort of the West is the evil empire now and we must We must be saved from our own corruption and decadence.
I don't buy that argument.
I mean, if you think that Russia and China have better moral values to offer, you know, you've got another thing coming.
I think the other thing in the West and, you know, we shouldn't perhaps dismiss these people as lightly.
As ignorant as because I think that concerns are not entirely without merit.
There is a lot of people.
I think there are a lot of people who are concerned about nuclear escalation, and I think that's a really good thing for people to be concerned about.
I just think what the other thing that they're not thinking about as well.
If you allow nuclear states to bully and expand their territory with the threat of of you dropping a nuclear weapon, then where do you end up?
So these are things that have to be weighed in the balance.
And as you know, I'm in favor of this conflict being settled in a way that allows Ukraine to have long-term security.
But on the other hand, we must also weigh the risks of allowing Russia to get anything it wants because it threatens to use a nuclear weapon.
But to a lot of Westerners, they don't really think about it in that way.
They just want this problem, quote-unquote, to go away.
They want the threat to their lives to end immediately.
And they're not really thinking long-term or in any way strategically, as I hope more people would do, about the consequences of some of the things that they're advocating.
But as somebody born in Russia with Ukrainian family members, none of what we've witnessed in the last nine months has surprised you, has it?
This isn't, you know, he's crazy and he's irrational.
This is acting to his nature.
Yeah, well, and to advance what he perceives as Russia's national interest, which, of course, primarily is his own interest.
You've got to understand that Vladimir Putin is quite popular in Russia.
And the reason is that after the chaos of the 90s, which really was awful for a lot of Russians, Vladimir Putin is seen as the man who comes in and stabilizes and makes the country more prosperous and shares some of that oil revenue with everybody.
Well, not a lot of it, but enough for people to feel more prosperous and most importantly, stability.
Yeah.
The problem is with stability and prosperity, as you know, Seb, is people look around and go, well, we've got stability and prosperity.
And I've actually been to, you know, Western Europe and I've seen what democracy looks like.
Why?
Why don't we have that here?
And the right answer, if you're Vladimir Putin, is the West is evil, is threatening you.
I am the strong man who will protect you from them.
And so a lot of this this what's happening at the moment is actually about Russian domestic politics, which if you think about it makes perfect sense.
If you think about the conflicts, the United States has been involved in in recent years or in the last few decades.
That's always been actually about mostly domestic American politics and the same thing is happening in Russia.
But as we just discussed to a lot of Westerners, the message of It's NATO's fault.
It's our fault.
We've done this.
It's our responsibility.
Lands very well, because quite a lot of people feel that Western guilt now, and it makes them very susceptible to this message, which Vladimir Putin knows very well.
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Constantine, you spent quite a bit of time with your co-host, Francis, with me here in the US when you were visiting, and I find you, you know, avuncular, a man of good humor, with a well-hidden dark side.
That dark side, in recent months, has only read its head when I've seen it in relation to the war in Ukraine.
And there is a moment in the translation of Putin's speech where I caught that issue that most reveals your pessimism.
And I'll just read it from your translation.
The breaking of the West's hegemony is inevitable.
And the word inevitable is in capital letters and you note emphasis PUTINS.
That's his emphasis.
I've heard you say similar things.
Will you share with us how concerned you are of the West's future and perhaps the reason why you wrote An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West?
Well, as you know, in the foreword to the book, I basically, I mean, I don't predict that the war was about to erupt, but I make it very clear that if the West refuses to live up to its own ideals, and refuses to be strong and confident.
Bad times are coming because we have enemies.
This is something quite a lot of people have forgotten in the West, because we've been living comfortable, prosperous lives.
But we do have adversaries, and now we have enemies, and we've always had enemies.
And the fact that we, certainly in Europe, made ourselves dependent on Russian energy and Chinese manufacturing.
I don't know if you caught the speech by one of the leaders of the EU, who essentially conceded that for, he basically said, we used cheap Russian energy and cheap Chinese manufacturing, and we sold ourselves out to them.
And people, like your former boss, and you know I have many disagreements, and you and I have debated and argued about this over a drink and a cigar many a time.
But he was demonized, actually, for making this point.
And And many other people because he was getting in the way of beautiful globalization and wonderful prosperity.
Well, guess what?
That world is over and we are now starting to reckon in Europe with the consequences of the actions that we've taken.
Shutting down our nuclear power plants, refusing to produce our own energy.
This is why Vladimir Putin was able to invade with such confidence.
Even though, as it turns out, his military isn't quite what he thought it was.
This is because he knew that he could peel the Germans and the French off from the Western alliance.
He could make them weak in their response.
There wouldn't be a uniform front, as there ought to have been, because we've sold ourselves out.
And that loss of confidence, that moral disarmament, which was, in our case, unilateral.
And as I think you'd agree, unilateral disarmament of any kind is a very bad idea.
And what strikes me about it, Seb, is just we've sort of forgotten history.
And you and I are both interested in history.
And this is a thing that human beings have known for thousands of years.
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And I am not, I don't share Vladimir Putin's view that the collapse of the West is inevitable.
But I am concerned that if we don't shape up and start to take ourselves seriously again, then that is a real possibility, which is why I wrote the book in an attempt to give people a wake-up call.
Vladimir Putin has done my job for me and given, I think, everybody a much bigger wake-up call, and I really, really hope that people will heed it.
Yeah, it is definitely a wake-up call and of course that seminal little footage, that clip of my former boss at the United Nations giving a speech about Europe relying too much on Russian energy, specifically Germany.
And for some reason, the moment he said that, the camera panned to the German delegation and they were all laughing.
They were chortling at President Trump saying that.
The German delegation is not laughing any longer.
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He is the co-host of the Trigonometry podcast along with Francis Foster.
The book is An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
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Now, Konstantin, you were in the US on a whirlwind tour.
You filmed some amazing footage on your trip here and then you took time to interview some very big names.
You were even on the Joe Rogan podcast yourself.
Perhaps the one that caused the greatest disturbance in the force was one with Sam Harris.
You can see my monologue on it.
You can watch the original interview at TriggerPod.
As well but the stunning thing about this interview in which he said things that probably should not have been said out loud if you wish to maintain any credibility as a thinking man is that a few weeks later he doubled down on what he said and went even more Well, I'm gonna use polite language.
Crazy.
It was strange that he didn't even mention whose podcast he was on, but here's a little clip that I would love to have you react to.
Play cut.
I've said on several occasions that I think Donald Trump is a worse person than Osama Bin Laden.
The statement is obviously meant to get your attention.
I get that it's surprising, but it's not meant to be hyperbolic.
I can defend every word of a statement like that.
What I can't defend are people's misunderstandings and erroneous extrapolations of a statement like that.
Yeah, so a man who defeated ISIS when he unleashed the military against that evil, heinous, jihadi organization is worse than bin Laden, the actual architect of 9-11.
We don't have to talk about Sam, but let's try and thread the needle through everything we've discussed in the themes of your book, An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
That attitude that he demonstrated there I think it's one of the reasons that you can make the mistakes that are made, whether it's with regard to Putin, Russia, open borders are fine, everybody should have an electric car and the environment is the most important thing.
Do you have any optimism that now that the little man behind the curtain is fully visible, that there is no question of the arrogance that these self-proclaimed elites demonstrate, that there will be some comeuppance for them, that rationality and reason will prevail?
How disturbed are you that they're still saying things like that?
Well, as you know, I tend not to criticize former guests, even when I disagree with them.
And I think that's a really important thing for someone in my position.
But in terms of the broader picture, I think this is part of the approach and the worldview that concerns me, which is that I think Sam's argument is that Osama bin Laden was very principled and driven and motivated, and as a result, less personally offensive to him than President Trump.
I think that is too abstract a way of looking at the issue for me.
I think that we have to remember, you know, patriotism has become a kind of dirty word in the West.
I mean, I understand that an excess of patriotism can be a bit obnoxious sometimes and it can lead us down to certain paths that we don't want to go down as As countries, but we still got to remember which team we're on.
And I'm afraid the world geopolitical stage is a team sport.
You're kind of either on our team or you're not.
And it's a problem that so many people, particularly smart people like Sam and prominent people like Sam with big audiences, don't remember that part of it.
I am all for a healthy criticism of our leaders.
I think it's really important.
But I also think that we've got to remember that this endless attempt to denigrate everything about us and to destroy ourselves in order to make it easier for our enemies, which is, I think, what that sort of approach will do.
I think it's very dangerous and it's very counterproductive.
We've got to criticize our leaders and, you know, the current leadership of both my country and yours troubles me, given some of the challenges that we face.
But we've also got to remember, like, we are all on the same team after all.
We really, really are.
And I think your point about elites is very relevant here because I think most ordinary people in both the United Kingdom and in the United States We've seen it with China's influence in the United States.
They are on one team and the people in Washington and the people in Westminster are playing for a very different team.
And that really is a concern.
And we talked earlier about Germany.
There's even a word for it, the Schroderization of Germany.
And that is where the elite of a country sells itself wholesale to your enemies.
We've seen it with China's influence in the United States.
We've seen it with Russian money being laundered through the city of London here.
And that's a big problem.
We've got to get away.
People in the elites and ordinary people both have to remember we're on the same team and we should be playing for Team Britain, Team US, Team West and attempting to make our countries better and our societies better and pull together in that direction.
You're right.
I think there are quite a lot of people who haven't been pursuing our common interests and have been pursuing their very narrow interests even when it hurts the rest of our society and that's dangerous.
I might have to borrow that phrase.
I like that, that geopolitics is a team sport.
That is very well put.
Your podcast has been tremendously successful with Francis.
I see that as a good sign because you're left of center individuals who started because you've had enough with Wokeners.
Are you seeing other signs around yourself that there is a little bit of a momentum pushing back against those who are not on the team of their country?
I have seen that, Seb, and one of the things I've been thinking about most is actually how do we get beyond both of those ways of doing it.
I think wokeness is idiotic.
I also think that there are elements of anti-wokeness that are equally reactive and dangerous and idiotic too.
And what we have to start thinking about, and I invite everybody to do this, and I have many private conversations for now, and eventually this idea will take shape into more concrete things, We have to start to shape a positive vision of the future and a positive culture.
And I think this will be the new dad in me speaking, but I think part of that is not just opposing, but actively counteracting the antinatalist sentiment in the West.
We've got to start thinking of human beings as potential solutions to the world's problems, instead of yet another mouth to feed as the planet, you know, heads to hell in a handbasket.
I also think that, you know, Some of the stuff around the climate issue has been excessive and it has had an impact on the way we think about things.
This idea that we should stop producing our own energy as we do in Europe and ship it in from Russia doesn't seem to me very green.
I mean, if you're going to burn natural gas and oil, perhaps you should make your own instead of shipping it in from We've got to start offering people something that they can actually look to and go, this inspires me, this makes me want to be part of this, this is cool, this is maybe punk even.
Having a positive vision, and that also means culturally in my former world of comedy, we've got to start offering people something that they can actually look to and go, this inspires me.
This makes me want to be part of this.
This is cool.
This is maybe punk even.
That, I think, is the thing that we've got to think about.
And, yes, having children and the idea that having children is actually a good idea, I think, is part of that positive vision for the future that I'm really keen to start to shape.
It is rather ironic that conservatives are now the cool counterculture kids, as it were.
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He is the author of An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.
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Right, let us return to the beginning of our discussion, your article on Putin and the war in Ukraine.
You have visited recently.
You have family in Ukraine.
We pray for them.
I have said on my show every single day to the Cost of those who, you know, are neo-buchananite isolationists, I'm sorry guys, this is their 1776.
And if 1776 means something to you as an American, so should Ukraine fighting against an invader today.
What is your report from the field?
What is the morale of the Ukrainians?
As far as I'm concerned, as an outsider, any nation that suffered Stalin's attempted extermination of 8 million people who died in the Holomodor will probably, you know, fight to the last man or the last, you know, 15-year-old who can hold an AK.
Do you feel that Ukraine has maintained its fighting spirit in this, the ninth month of the war?
Well, actually, I think it's strengthened it and it's been very strengthened by the fact that they're making actual territorial gains.
So they're taking back territory in both north and near Kharkiv and in the south in Kherson.
We've seen from the horse's mouth, actually, from both Vladimir Putin and the general he appointed in charge of the operation.
They've both said there are difficult news about the southern units.
coming.
They're pulling out of that area of Ukraine.
So the Ukrainians are very much boosted by that.
The difficulty is that, of course, we're about to head into the autumn or the fall season when, you know, moving around becomes very difficult.
Everything is mud.
So I think you're going to see a slowdown.
But no, the Ukrainians have been galvanized.
And actually, Vladimir Putin's revenge attacks against civilian infrastructure and hitting playgrounds, as he did with missile strikes only a few days ago, I think have galvanized the Ukrainian spirit, even though I do think it will be a very difficult winter because electricity has become a problem.
Water is an issue, heating and so on.
But generally what we see, I think, and certainly as a student of history, is that, of course, that takes its toll.
But I think in terms of morale, certainly for Ukrainians, that isn't going to sap their morale at all, because it makes them all feel like they're part of one thing.
And the great irony, of course, is In the speech that Vladimir Putin made on the eve of the invasion in February, he talked about how Ukraine wasn't really a country.
And as someone who has family in Ukraine and has been there many, many dozens of times and travels there regularly, I actually would agree that to some extent that was true.
Ukraine was not a united society at all prior to the invasion.
Well, guess what?
Now it is.
Yeah.
Well done, Vladimir Putin.
And as you told me after you got back recently, you were speaking to ethnic Russians who've now had it with Vladimir Putin and want Ukraine to fight, correct?
Yeah, well, Vladimir Zelensky has a 90 odd percent approval rating and unlike in Russia, it's not gerrymandered or artificial.
So the people are behind the defensive effort and This was probably caused by the fact that in 2014, they saw their country give away territory, not stand up for itself, not fight.
And this time around, they had a very different opinion of it.
They were like, not again, not again.
You fooled us once, shame on us.
This time, we're gonna stand up and fight.
The eye of the immigrant.
I'm an immigrant.
He's an immigrant.
We see things sometimes a little bit more clearly than those breasts that live in our Western countries that we chose.
The article is Putin, the end of Western hegemony is inevitable.
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Give Nikolai a little kiss on the head.
I'm sure he is growing by leaps and bounds.
Keep doing what you do.
You are a courageous man and we appreciate both of you.
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