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have won.
But the point of endless wars is absolutely right.
And especially if you're a quote unquote democratic socialist, which she was, how come she's not standing up for the working class?
How come she's voting for bundles of cash for Ukraine?
Very, very strange.
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So they did it right.
They voted to subpoena him.
Yeah, the subpoena, though, will expire at the end of this term.
Oh, the end of this Congress term?
Yeah.
Interesting.
This is all for when the Republicans shut it down, so they can just throw a fit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what they do good.
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People want to talk about the Alex Jones storyline.
Let's go to Cleveland.
Derek, welcome to America First.
Hey, thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Yes.
So it seems the issue with the lawsuit against Alex Jones is, you know, how far can the First Amendment free speech be taken?
And with that, I mean, if he can be sued for that much, can't Donald Trump sue CNN and the fake media for more?
I mean, he's only going for half the amount they're getting Alex Jones for.
Yeah, I have to be honest.
You had a Vulcan mind meld with one of our guests, the great Marina Medvin, who said the following to me, texted me just a moment ago.
To all those who are criticizing me for my comments about Alex Jones getting what he deserved, did you ask any of your haters how they felt about the Nick Sandeman case?
Where he received massive compensation from CNN defaming him.
If you supported Sandman winning his case against CNN, well then you can't be angry about the book being thrown at Alex Jones.
This isn't about freedom of speech, ladies and gentlemen.
This is about defamation.
This is about libel in written word and in broadcasting.
This man said things that were untrue.
He lied.
He said, he didn't say, I have an opinion about Sandy Hook.
Or the school shootings of the last 10 years.
He said it didn't happen.
He said it didn't happen.
The children didn't lie.
The parents are not parents.
They are crisis actors.
That's not an opinion.
That's a statement of fact that he made money off.
That's the issue here.
But your point is well taken.
Very nicely put, Derek.
If Alex Jones can lose 900 million because of defaming the children who were murdered, I got two things.
then maybe Mr. Trump, maybe President Trump should up his claim on CNN.
Nicely done, Derek.
Let's go to our good buddy in Silver Spring, Victor.
Welcome back to America First.
I got two things.
Number one, about Alex Jones, he's got to be some kind of a nut because every time I listen to him for a couple of minutes before I got to turn him off on shortwave, He always says we're in a big crisis.
Everything is falling apart.
He's a crisis whore.
He's a crisis whore.
Right.
Right.
It's always the Armageddon is happening.
The Armageddon has been happening for 16 years now or however long he's been broadcasting.
Yeah.
And then he follows it up by saying, and our sale on vitamin C is going to be ending next week.
You better get your order in now.
And don't forget.
Don't forget the gay frogs, the homosexual frogs.
OK, Victor.
Oh, yeah.
Second thing.
I got into another argument with the same neighbor.
This time, she believes me now that the vaccine, it turned out to hurt one of her relatives, but she's blaming Trump for Warp.
Hang on, hang on.
What happened to one of her relatives, Victor?
What happened with regards to the vaccine?
Heart attack.
Okay, and now she's blaming Trump?
Yes, for Operation Warp Speed, and I'm trying to explain to her that it was Fauci that lied to Donald Trump all along.
Hang on, hang on.
If she's angry at Donald Trump as president because of Operation Warp Speed, does she still worship Fauci though?
Yes!
I think that's how you know she has TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Nothing you can do at this point.
You've tried hard, far too hard, Victor.
There's nothing you can do with people who are brainwashed.
Just ignore that silly, silly neighbor.
Thank you, Victor.
Let's go to David in Orlando, line 4.
Welcome, David.
Good afternoon, Doctor.
Some quick points.
Notice how everyone is blaming the Russians for killing civilians.
with their drones.
Let's not forget that the drone technology that the Iranians obtained was from one of our downed drones that the Iranians hacked in 2013.
David, nobody has made that connection in the mainstream media.
I was thinking about it.
Nobody made the connection of the stealth drone that was captured by the Iranians when Obama was the president.
Do we really believe that the drones they used in Kiev, the Russians used, that they got from Iran, are not based upon our technology, David?
Well, I believe so, and Obama, who was the king of killing people with drones, if you're going to send drones over Iran, you better have a plan B. And the plan B is to protect a downed drone from getting into the Iranians' hands.
He should have had planes in the air to take that drone out on the ground the second it landed.
But he was A-OK with the Iranians getting their hands on that drone.
Have you served in the military, David?
The civilians are paying the price for it now.
Yeah, the Ukrainian civilians are paying the price for our drone being stolen and copied by Iran and then given to Russia.
Have you served in the military, David?
No, I haven't.
You are an astute military analyst.
I commend you on your alacrity and precision of analysis.
Let us reward our friend David.
Stay on the line.
Let's give him a copy of Defeating Jihad because, yes, we should have destroyed that drone as soon as it crash-landed, either with some internal mechanism that would have fried it or actually sent in something to make it explode after it had crash-landed.
Perfectly put.
Nobody's made that connection.
They're using Iranian.
Iranian drones in Ukraine that were given to Russia.
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I'll tell him.
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He's on the phone.
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Just tell him to talk to me.
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Let's go to the West Coast.
Our good buddy, Los Angeles.
Line 5.
Happy Thursday, Don.
And to you, Dr. Gorka, the rolling thunder of conservative talk radio.
What is your topic for the day, Don?
Well, you know, I was telling Mr. Xi that here we have, you know, we have the Iranian people rising up again in the streets against the mullahs.
We have Russian legislatures, actually openly in the legislature, calling for Putin to step down.
That takes guts.
We know China has economic problems looming.
They have all they can handle.
I was just reading a book, it's called A Covert Action, about the Reagan administration, how they helped solidarity behind the scenes covertly, you know, to keep the Russians from moving in.
It seems we have so many opportunities, Dr. G, to make trouble for these SOBs in their backyard, the way they're making trouble trying to subvert our society.
If they're going to export tyranny and terror to us, why can't we export a little freedom to them?
In their own grassroots.
We used to when we had testicular fortitude under a different caliber of leader, but not anymore.
And I know that book.
It's a very good book.
But right now, this man, this senile old man, is afraid of our enemies.
Thank you, Don.
Let's go to Jonathan, Arizona, line one.
Hey, Dr. G. Such an honor to chat with you.
Real quick, that last caller almost sounded like James Earl Jones.
Doesn't he?
Don's got the best voice in any caller.
It's just so cool.
Well, mine would sound a lot better if I did have a nose surgery.
But anyway, I digress.
Talking about Alex Jones and the lawsuit.
Yeah.
I actually love that he got sued.
He's such a blowhard.
I'm so tired of him being famous.
I don't know how he is.
But I have a question for you.
You got 20 seconds.
You gotta be quick.
You gotta be quick.
Have any Holocaust deniers ever been sued for stating that?
Absolutely.
Not in America, but in Austria.
Look up the case of David Irving.
Absolutely.
It is illegal in some countries to deny the Holocaust, and people have been sued.
I don't know about here.
I'd have to check, but yes, people have been sued and lost a lot of money.
Great question.
Great questions.
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We have a regime in the White House that is empowering the cartels to the tune of billions of dollars and they have militarized that border.
It is free for all for crime and it is thanks to this administration.
We'll be talking to somebody involved with the latest documentary from our buddy Charlie Kirk.
Join us on the Salem News Channel. . . . . . . . . .
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Thank you.
Do you want to ask them if, uh, anything else?
Oh yeah.
Mr. Eddy?
Yes.
What would you like in your chyron?
We've only got 20 seconds.
Uh, border battle and, uh, host Liberty station podcast.
Yeah.
But border battle.
What are you a producer director?
What, what's your title?
Um, I was in the, I'm, I'm in the film.
Oh, you're in the film.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
Just put border battle then comma host.
Did you get that, John?
Liberty Station.
Liberty Station podcast.
Great.
Thank you.
Out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Oh my gosh, I think I've upset somebody just checking my tweets and my DMs.
There's somebody out there called Kelly McCreary.
This is his Twitter feed.
He's got a, I don't know if that's really him, but he's got a very pretentious handlebar mustache.
He must wax the end of his mustache.
And he DMed me.
He said, slander Alex Jones once more and you're next.
My response?
Bring it, cut boy!
Seriously!
Come on, bring it!
You're gonna DM me?
That's how tough you are?
Give your mum her phone back, you pathetic little excuse for a moustache twirling fake man.
All right, I've got a special guest in a moment we're going to connect with.
It's part of an amazing project connected to Charlie Kirk and Salem.
But it is Thursday, so we have to check in.
And she's number one.
The call board line is absolutely full, but I need a quick sit rep from Antoinette.
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I don't know what the hell I did.
Anyway, Dr. G, tomorrow, what does Jen call him?
The Prime Minister?
Biden's going to be in town tomorrow in Irvine.
We found out the Irvine City College.
So we're going to, like we did the beginning of the year when he was at Long Beach City College, he's going to be here in Irvine tomorrow.
We're trying to know on Proposition 1, but this is what we finally figured out.
Katie Porter But here's the question, here's the question.
Scott Baugh, who a lot of Hispanics are voting for him.
He's running.
They redistrict our districts and everything.
That's why Biden is coming to Irvine tomorrow, because he's trying to help her, because Scott Baugh is beating her in the polls.
So we need to...
But here's the question.
Here's the question.
If you were a Democrat in trouble, would you want sleepy, creepy Beijing Biden campaigning for you?
No, this is what sounds great.
This is what's so great that he's coming to see her, because it's really going to help Scott, who's running against her.
So this is heaven on earth.
Heaven on earth.
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All right, back to business.
It's called The Border Battle.
It's the latest six-part documentary at SalemNow.com.
It is by my buddy, Charlie Clerk, the founder of Turning Point USA, one of the stars of this new documentary, a security expert.
He is the host of his own podcast with us.
It's Bryce Eddy.
Mr. Eddy, welcome to America First.
Thank you for having me, Dr. Gorka.
Yeah, this was an incredible project.
Just to start out, Charlie Kirk and TPUSA did amazing work.
I mean, it is as good as anything that's ever been produced out there.
So tell us, what was your role in Border Battle, this documentary about the war on the border?
Tell us how you fit into this great project from Charlie and TPUSA.
Yeah, so we provided security for the film crew and we also did operations embedded with the sheriff's department down there.
So we were tracing around the desert, working to catch some human traffickers and smugglers.
Through the middle of the night for several operations while we were there.
We went on ride-alongs with the Sheriff's Departments as well.
We witnessed them having to let go smugglers because the Border Patrol could not respond or would not respond.
Alright, tell us about your background.
How did you get involved in working with the local authorities and helping Charlie out on this project?
Yeah.
So, uh, our company is a, uh, vocational training school for military veterans and we specialize in, uh, private public partnerships.
And so we've been going down to the border to work on, um, what the model would look like if you did a combination of government and private resources to secure it.
Um, there's people like Terry Lake who have the will to do things like this.
Whereas, uh, others across the country, um, won't.
And I think if you just secured Arizona.
You would have a ripple effect across the rest of the border and we're working on a model to do this.
All right, so give us an update.
Give us a sitrep on the situation.
So I went down there with Mr. G over a year ago.
We were invited by Sheriff Mark Lamb.
We said if the mainstream media aren't going to cover it, long before Charlie Kirk thought about it, we went down to the border and we took a camera and we saw just, I mean, literally anywhere we stopped, Got out of the patrol car.
Within 20-30 feet, it was just debris of the traffickers.
Just the carpet, shoes, the water bottles, the suntan lotion, you know, the tubes that they used to protect their skin in the desert.
I mean, just everywhere littered.
I presume a year or more later it's even worse.
So give us a snapshot of why Charlie and you guys in the movie are calling this actually a battle, actually a war zone.
Well, I'll give you one example.
There are forward operating bases that the cartel has on U.S.
soil, where they have rifles, they are wearing body armor, and we were able to witness that directly.
So they put OPs, they put like we had in Afghanistan.
The cartels come in, we actually saw some of these with Sheriff Lamb, they come in to America, they pick a tactically operationally advantageous high point, the guy camps out, he's camouflaged, he's got weaponry, he's got comms, he's got walkie-talkies, and he is helping to direct the flow of the human beings being smuggled, correct?
Yeah, you have that.
You have those overlook positions, but you actually also have real, like, military cartel operatives on our side of the border there, again, in forward operating bases.
I mean, this is where they hang out and rest and, you know, wait for the next wave of people, and also are kind of defending their own territory.
The border is controlled by the cartel.
In fact, here in California, where I operate from, we have cartels that are actually in charge of our desert cities.
So it is worse than anybody can imagine.
And we were able to go very deep, kind of into no man's land.
And I witnessed personally, Rape trees where they hang, you know, women's panties from the tree as trophies and they have shackles of the trees and condoms littering the ground, including little children's panties.
It's the most disgusting thing you've ever seen.
Unbelievable.
And when it comes to the federal response, the people who have sworn to serve the nation, to protect it, they're just, their hands are tied and basically they're a welcome committee for the illegals, correct?
Yeah, they're demoralized too.
I mean, we talked to a lot of these guys.
There's a number that are on the video anonymously, but, you know, we got to talk to them off camera and these guys are defeated, demoralized, just, you know, beat up because they're not doing their job.
I mean, you probably saw the Project Veritas video where the guy was asking, what are you guys doing?
He said, we're just the shuttle service now.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, the movie is Border Battle, six-part documentary.
It's out now at SalemNow.com.
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Last question to you, Bryce, and don't forget he's the host of the Liberty Station podcast.
What do you say to those who say, hey, I live in the North Country.
I don't live in California.
I don't live in Arizona.
I don't live in Texas.
It doesn't matter to me.
That's their problem.
Well, you have fentanyl everywhere.
And that's the one word I have for everyone.
And we're seeing ODs in schools all over the country because there is no recreational drugs anymore because fentanyl is in everything.
And it's so powerful.
That it is wiping people out.
I think there's been more than a hundred thousand deaths already this year just due to fentanyl.
No, it is.
It's more than a hundred.
It's more than a hundred and ten thousand in twelve months, which is almost double.
Almost double the number of Americans who were killed in Vietnam over ten years.
Ten years of death.
In America, in 12 months, as a deliberate result of Chinese fentanyl being smuggled openly across the border, thanks to the policies of this administration.
If we take the House, if we take the Senate, day one, Alejandro Mayorkas subpoenaed.
Not enough.
Not enough.
I want him charged.
Because he is aiding and abetting the cartels.
And he is an accomplice in those more than 110,000 murders.
Thank you, Bryce, Eddie, for keeping our team safe.
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Yep.
We're getting Brandon on, right?
He's on.
Okay.
Sorry, you said we're not going to use a cut for my notes?
No cut.
Hey, Brandon.
it.
Yep.
you Hey there, how's it going?
Good.
Have you had your event yet or is it still to come?
It's this Saturday.
OK, this Saturday.
What is it called?
The Walk Away Black Americans Culture War.
Left versus right.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
It's like, dude, seriously?
The walk away what?
Black American culture war.
Yep.
Left versus right.
Uh huh.
Live debate.
Okay.
Is there a link for it?
Yeah, walkawaycampaign.com slash events.
Okay, can you put walkawaycampaign.com slash events in the second line, John?
And the reason why I look crazy right now, it's actually kind of great, is that I'm at Howard University in DC, the historically black college, university, talking with all the college kids about why they should come to the event, and it's I've been talking to hundreds of black college kids and they're so excited.
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Right now he is on a mission to get debate going between left and right.
I believe he's on the campus of a university not too far away.
He is a brave individual.
He's the founder of the Walk Away Movement.
And they're having their next big event this Saturday.
Brandon Stracker, welcome back to America First.
It's great to be here.
Thank you.
So where are you right now, Brandon?
What are you doing?
Sorry, I'm trying to find myself.
So I'm actually just off of the campus of Howard University near D.C., historically black college.
And I'm talking to the college kids about the event that WalkAway is doing this Saturday.
It is the WalkAway Black Americans Left versus Black Americans Right.
Culture War live debate.
Put that little poster up again.
Let's look at all the people you've got to raid left and right.
So you're going to have left and right debating each other, black Americans.
I love the idea.
You can find out more at walkawaycampaign.com slash events.
We don't do this at all.
Why did you decide to have a debate and how hard was it to find?
Because lefties don't want to debate.
So tell us about why you're doing it and how you found people to debate with.
Well, I wanted to do it for the very reason you just said, because it doesn't happen very often.
I'm a member of a minority community in America myself.
I'm a gay man, and I ended up walking away from the left, and I'm now a Republican.
I went from being a Hillary Clinton voter in 2016 to a Trump voter in 2020.
The reason why I did that is because I did my own homework, I did my own research, and I started thinking for myself.
But you know, it's really disappointing because if more minorities in this country understood what it really means to be a Republican, what it really means to be a conservative, a lot more people would be making exactly the same choice that I made.
Unfortunately, the Republican Party is really not doing its job doing outreach for these communities.
Enter Brandon Strzok and walk away.
So that's why I want to get out there and talk to as many black and Hispanic and LGBT and women and religious minorities as I can.
To tell them that there's a better choice, there's a better path, and that people should be thinking differently.
Is this an online event or will there be some where people can go as well?
Oh yeah, so we want to encourage people to come and be a part of our live audience if possible.
But if it's not possible, yes, the event is going to be live streamed.
People can go to walkawaycampaign.com slash events and get the link to the live stream.
We'll be live streaming this to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Getter, probably Rumble as well.
And so yeah, there's gonna be lots of ways to watch it.
But um, I want to encourage anybody who's in the DC area to come and get a $10 ticket.
Where is it going to be?
What time?
So it's this Saturday at around 5pm, the doors are going to open.
Unfortunately, we're not releasing the name of the venue until people get a ticket and we'll give that out on Friday.
People have a habit of trying to sabotage our events by harassing the venues.
So they'll find out it's a DC-based venue and it's very near Freedom Plaza.
So that's the area.
We'll give the exact location on Friday.
I love it.
I love it.
Okay.
It is walkawaycampaign.com slash events.
We are hearing from posters and others, Brandon, maybe you can back it up, that in the last 18 months, because of certain things that are happening in the White House, minorities, black Americans are just saying, yeah, this doesn't make any sense.
And I need to walk away from the Democrat party.
Is that, is that wishful thinking or are you seeing that as well in your movement?
No, I'm absolutely seeing that in the movement, and I don't think it's wishful thinking.
And as it pertains specifically to the Black community, I think that they're realizing more than ever, particularly with this president, that they're being used and they're being taken for granted.
Joe Biden doesn't even try to hide it.
He comes right out and says it.
He says, if you're not supporting me, you ain't Black.
Well, that's the kind of thing you tell people if you're not even trying to win them over, if you're not even trying to put forward policies that are going to make their lives, their communities better.
We're coming off an incredibly horrible economy that was created by a pandemic.
It's time to get money back in people's pockets, get affordable groceries, affordable gas, get people back to work.
They're not even trying to do that.
They're just saying, we own you because you're black.
Yes, people are starting to get it and they're willing to vote differently and think differently.
We've only got a minute left, but I have to ask you, because I know you've been a victim of the January 6 witch hunt.
How are you faring, my friend?
You know, it's been really tough.
I'm very aware that it's going to be an uphill battle, probably for a few more years.
But, you know, I'm strong.
I'm tough.
They picked the wrong guy to come after because I think they thought they'd take me down and take me out, but that's never going to happen.
I'm going to keep fighting until my last breath.
So, I'm good.
I'm good.
All right, Brandon Stracker, the founder of the WalkAway movement.
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Not the best music for images of arson and looting.
- Oh, yeah.
Um, but that's not heard on there.
What do you mean?
That's not heard on TV.
Oh, it's not?
There's no music on Rumble?
It's a different music.
It's the TV generic.
Oh, what music is it?
Um, we'll play it for you.
It's just the generic Salem.
Every, every, every outro is the same piece of music?
Yeah, but it doesn't start until after you stop talking.
Interesting.
I've got three things to B-roll.
There's two of the protests that I ran, and then there's another one of the funeral.
Okay, good.
Just play.
Are we dialing her?
She's not in this segment.
She's next one.
Oh, good.
Okay.
What does it say on her Twitter?
What's her title?
She has a podcast or something.
Yeah, let me see.
something report.
So, let's go. let's go.
So, let's go.
So, let's go. let's go.
So, let's go. let's go.
50 seconds. 30 seconds.
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on America First.
Do you remember that cut we played of that former CIA guy on the Bret Baier show where he was saying, oh yeah, I signed that letter with 50 other spooks that the Hunter Biden laptops were Russian disinformation.
Oh, well, we didn't mean it.
We just kind of, well, we said it kind of looks like Russian disinformation.
Greg Gutfeld was not very, very amused.
I think they had to beep his own show.
Cut eight!
My buddy, Greg Gutfeld.
He said it plainly on a debate stage that obviously affected the dynamic.
Don't you think?
I would absolutely love for all news media to show nuance on all these issues instead of racing to soundbites.
Dude, there were no soundbites.
The facts were taken from the letter you co-wrote, which again, you a**hole, was the plan all along!
No one writes a letter to be ignored like the ones I get from Kilmeade's lawyer all the time.
So this is just a glimpse of who was involved in this fraud.
Now multiply this dimwit by 50.
The ends justify the means.
You can lie to the American people and there's no consequences.
But that's 50 reasons why you gotta go vote and take control of the House.
Because every single signer of that letter needs to be questioned just like that.
Like who asked them to do this?
Were they paid?
A little bit more aggressively than he was questioned right there.
But yes, everyone, all 51 of those deep state spooks need to be subpoenaed.
What's with the skinny ties, Greg?
I know you're a small individual, but skinny ties?
That is so 1990s.
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Phil's usually in Philly.
This Phil's in California.
Line five.
Welcome, Phil.
How you doing, Sebastian?
Good.
I don't see the benefit in bashing Alex Jones.
When I think of that kind of thing, I think of like in the Bible, where those people borrowing Jesus' name to heal people, and the apostles objected, and Jesus said, whoever's not against this is for us.
I've gotten a lot of good information.
I don't believe 90%.
I mean, I don't believe 10%.
What I hear on that show that I've gotten a lot of useful information.
Six months, maybe a year.
before the mainstream media ever released it or admitted to it.
Right, well, first things first, I'm not here to bash Alex Jones.
I have to comment.
I am a talk show host on a national platform and when he is, when the people that he slandered are awarded nine hundred million dollars it's news, my friend, and I have to comment on it.
Secondly, please don't quote Jesus and the Bible in the same sentence as Alex Jones.
Because he's scum.
I don't care how much you profited from him personally.
The greatest crime you can ever commit is to kill a child.
That is the greatest crime.
Second, sexually abuse a child.
Those are the two most evil things a human being can do.
And if you do them, you should be killed.
If you abuse a child, if you murder a child, you should receive the death penalty and be killed.
Only very, very Slightly beneath that is to lie about murdered children, to libel their parents, and to profit from your lies.
And that is why I think it is filthy and disgusting That you would come on my show to use quotes from the Bible in the same sentence as a man who lied about children who were murdered.
Why do you think that's defensible?
Tell me in three million people why you think it's okay to defend a man who made money out of the death of children.
Go ahead.
I'll tell you this.
No, no, no, no.
I don't want nothing.
I don't want a sidebar, different discussion.
Tell me why you think you have the right to waste my time to defend an individual who profited, who profited literally on his show from the death of children and lying about it and saying it never happened and calling the parents, the parents liars.
You're not in Britain anymore.
Goodbye, goodbye, you sad little cuckaboy.
Goodbye.
See, that's all they've got.
That's all they've got.
The ad hominem.
The ad hominem.
You're a pathetic oxygen thief.
You are not a man.
You are the antithesis of a man, and if you dare defend a man who profits from the death of children, you will be shown short shrift and kicked off my show.
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These people are just perverse.
He still didn't say what, give any examples of the stuff that he broke six months before the mainstream media.
Oh, they always say that.
They always say that.
All right.
Do we have a title for Lisa?
Yeah, it's the, um, I was just on it.
Why does he always roll out Joseph Lieberman?
He looks like the Crip Master.
Honestly.
ForeignDesk.News.
Oh, that's it.
at foreign desk.
Can you play cut 10?
Can you play cut 10?
We've got an election in the month.
Voters have to decide.
Democrats are working to bring down the cost of things that talk about around the kitchen table.
From prescription drugs to health insurance to energy bills and so much more.
We're standing up for working people and the right to get a raise and get a better job.
We're publishing a campaign every day.
On an agenda to raise your cost.
Wow.
Where is he at?
Some junkyard.
Hey, Lisa!
Hi, how are you?
Good, good, good, good.
So, foreigndesk.news, anything else we should mention or put in the chyron?
Foreigndesknews.com.
Yeah, foreigndesknews.com.
Anything else?
I do a daily top 10 email that if you could plug, you could subscribe for it on the Foreign Desk News Okay, good.
Why is there an echo?
I don't know.
Okay, all right.
We'll just have to work around it.
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I hope you're listening out there, Roger.
You know who you are.
The man who, every month, I think, sends us a box of cigars.
It's always different.
And this time, it was... I thought somebody had sent me... I don't know what it was.
Like a massive smoked salmon from Kamchatka.
This big, long, thin box.
I haven't even showed Mr. G. He'll be so jealous.
Do you know what an advent calendar is?
Jeff, do you know what an advent calendar is?
Yes, of course.
Of course you do, because you've got little kids.
It's, you know, every day you open the little door and you take out a chocolate, you know, Christmas.
I got an advent calendar this big, and each day is a different Oliva cigar.
How big is it?
It's like this wide, and there's one cigar for each day.
That's an awesome idea.
Isn't it fabulous?
I've got a photograph on my phone, I'll show you later.
But Roger, you are a scholar and a gentleman.
Alright, let's get somebody on the show who's going to help us out with a big question.
Strangely, the mainstream media isn't too excited about... I've known her for many... Well, that'd be indiscreet.
She's a woman.
I've known her for a while.
Lisa Daftari of the Foreign News Desk.
Welcome to America First.
Thank you for having me.
All right, so you are an expert, outspoken expert on Persia and what's happening in the Middle East.
Give us an update.
Is this just another iteration of rumblings in the street of Iran that happens every few years?
Or is this different qualitatively?
Yeah, it's a great question, and I think perhaps that's why the mainstream media might be ignoring this.
We'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they think, well, this happens every so often.
We see people running out onto the streets saying death to the dictator like they are right now, but they're in their fourth week.
It's been a month that the Iranian people are out on the streets, and there are some differences this time around.
Namely, number one, it is not just contained to Tehran, it is all throughout the country.
You're seeing protests in clerical cities, you're seeing protests among young people, old people, men and women, although this is obviously a women's movement because of the catalyst, but this is the most courageous, the most violent The most brutal we've seen.
The protesters are turning over cop cars and they're setting fire to Basiji headquarters, and they've even managed to kill some of the regime forces that have come after them.
So this is the best chance we've ever seen the Iranian people have for a revolution.
Now, when you have a revolution, there has to be that crescendo moment, that crystallization where either the resistance, the dissidents, whoever they are, have done enough of their homework, have organized, like Solidarnosc in Poland during the 1980s,
The trade union movement or in Hungary, although that was crushed, but there was that moment for 10 days where the Hungarian people were free because elements of the regime said, I'm not shooting on my fellow citizens.
Here's my machine gun.
Here's my armored personnel carrier, whatever it is.
How does that look like in Iran right now?
Is the opposition organized or is there a chance that there will be splinters within the murderous regime?
Right, so a few things that are against or challenging the Iranian opposition, and number one is that they don't have a leader.
They are not organized in the sense that there is hierarchy, there is a leader, they know what to do.
Let's say this regime were to fall, what are they going to do the next day?
So we don't have that aspect.
Secondly, we see a regime that will not back down.
They will do anything.
There will be blood flowing through the streets of Iran before they back down.
And that's the opposite of what we saw in 1979, despite what you may hear from liberal talking points.
But the Shah of Iran refused to kill Iranians.
He did not want there to be a bloodbath, and that's why he left.
And he left easily relative to his reign and his power over the people and over the country.
In this case, you have a murderous regime that is not afraid of not only killing Iranians, they will bring in besieged forces from other places like Pakistan, like Palestinian fighters, like fighters from other Arab nations to fight the Iranian people.
But they will kill, they will murder.
And let's remember what the catalyst of all of this was.
The murder of a 22-year-old girl solely for showing a little bit of her hair.
And that was Massa Amini, who has become the face of this movement, the hashtag for this movement.
And that's why we're seeing women all over the streets of Iran burning their hijabs, saying enough is enough.
Their male counterparts are joining them and supporting them in this fight.
And as I said, the best chance that they have had over 43 years of saying enough is enough, we want more.
Can you stay with us for one more segment?
Absolutely.
So here's a question to you that is personal to me because I spoke out on behalf of the Persians on BBC, the Farsi service, and the host was a complete, you know, anti-American, anti-Trump and he insulted our White House and said, You empowered the Iranian regime.
And I spoke truth to the BBC and my phone blew up.
I was getting DMs from Iranians in Iran saying thank you for standing with us.
And it's hard because I don't know what to say.
How do we respond?
People are asking me for donations.
I don't know who they are.
What is the role that Americans can play to help the people of Persia against the murderous Mullahs?
Well, our Iran envoy, Rob Malley, came out last week, we have this story at the Foreign Desk, came out and said, although we are verbally supporting the protesters, we are not supporting a policy of regime change.
Wow.
And I got thousands of comments underneath the post and underneath the story to say, we don't care, we don't need you, just stay out of our business.
Why would the United States come out and say we don't support regime change?
What you're basically saying is that we support the regime.
It's an equal statement, right?
So why come out and ruin the chances that the people have?
Why wouldn't we listen to 84 million, the majority of whom are saying that this regime doesn't fit our lifestyle, doesn't fit who we are, enough is enough.
You know, if you're gonna get killed as a 22-year-old for showing some of your hair, I mean, where are the Me Too people?
Where are the BLM people?
Where are all the people who are so quick to run out onto the streets for women's rights in this country, but yet are not supporting the Iranian people?
The Iranian people are asking for exactly what you gave them on BBC.
Such an incredible point.
Where are the fourth wave feminists?
Where is BLM?
Where is the women's movement right now when women are being murdered for showing a little bit of hair in Tehran?
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So it's really, it blows my mind, Lisa. it blows my mind, Lisa.
So I did this thing out of the blue for the BBC through an interpreter.
And the host was some scumbag, you know, leftist, you know, pro-regime, whatever.
And as soon as I gave the interview, because my DMs are open on Twitter, it just exploded with people saying thank you, thank you, thank you.
It's as if I'm the only American who said something nice about the Iranian people.
But I'll tell you, this is the first time around where I'm not seeing comments like, you're on Fox News, we're not going to listen to you.
You're on Newsmax, we're not going to listen to you.
You're talking to Sebastian Gorka, we're not going to listen to you.
There is such a, we'll take anything.
If you're going to support us, we're thankful kind of sentiment among the protesters.
It's amazing the amount of gratitude that they're expressing, like yourself.
I mean, I went on Fox on Saturday with Eric Sean.
I've done a lot of Newsmax.
Having me on, I'm sure it'll be fantastic.
You'll get a lot more messages.
They just want this covered, and the mainstream media is truly failing at that.
Yeah.
Is it mostly a young thing right now?
Is it a new demographic, or do you think it's all over?
It's all over.
Good.
All right.
Superb.
I got one question to ask you.
It's just a three-minute segment, and then I'll let you go.
Sure.
All right.
Stand by.
30 seconds. 30 seconds.
First place in your hearts.
We'll be right back.
The witch hunters voted to subpoena President Trump.
Mr. G did point out, however, the subpoena only lasts until the end of this term, which is, what, 27 days to go?
So I think we can slow roll that one.
But they're insane.
Utterly insane.
When the good guys win, we have to subpoena everyone and we have to impeach The cabinet starting with Alejandro Mayorkas and President Biden himself.
Ooh, I still can't say that phrase.
The guy who is called the President in the White House.
We're back with Lisa Daftari telling the truth about what's happening in Iran.
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I've known this lady for quite some time and she is the real deal.
All right.
Say the good guys win in the midterms.
Say we take the House, we take the Senate.
President Trump I know is running.
God willing he'll be back in the White House.
Hopefully the Persian people can survive long enough.
What is the first thing that has to be done in a second Trump administration when it comes to the murderous regime of the Mullahs, Lisa?
Great question.
If it doesn't happen tomorrow, it has to happen in the next administration, and that's to walk away from or rip up whatever is a nuclear deal between Iran and the West.
Right now, it's been many years that we've been fighting the Iran regime.
43 years they've been in power.
I mean, I've been doing this for many years and I've always called for, you know, there to be sanctions against the proper sectors of the Iranian government, for there to be no Iran nuclear deal.
And previously I would get pushback from people, like you said, Who are either apologists or people who support the regime that are here and are lobbying the White House.
We have many of them right now lobbying the Biden White House.
And they're getting through.
Their message is getting through.
We need to push through the nuclear deal.
We need the nuclear deal.
And now a lot of Iranians and those who support them are coming to terms with the fact that we need to push for sanctions and we need to walk away from the Iran nuclear deal if we are to diminish the terrorist regime that is in Tehran.
And for that reason, whoever comes into office, if it's not done tomorrow, if we're not walking away from the Iran deal as a bipartisan policy move vis-a-vis Iran, then it needs to be done in the next administration.
That's exactly what Donald Trump did in May of 2018.
He ripped up the Iran nuclear deal and said, this is just a waste of paper.
And the Biden administration, he campaigned on it.
That was his number one, you know, it was just like Obama.
Obama, that was his crown jewel of foreign policy is to get into that Iran nuclear deal.
And Biden wanted to replicate that.
It was one of my proudest moments in my time in the White House, when I was told, the boss wants to see you now!
You and Steve get into the Oval!
And the rest of the cabinet were there, all the rhinos, all the scumbags, and the president said, Oy, you!
He called us his heavies.
You too, Steve and Seb.
You tell everybody else in the cabinet why I have to rip up the JCPOA Iran deal.
And we did.
And the president kept his promise.
Follow her, Lisa Daftari, ForeignDeskNews.com.
And God bless every single one of the Persians in Iran who are fighting for their freedom just like we did here in 1776.
Next up, Steve Moore on the seven ways Biden is destroying America.
All right.
So 3.50 on the clock.
Can we do an E block for tomorrow?
So, 3.50 on the clock.
Let's see if there's a good...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll tee it up though.
Matthew Cook.
Yeah.
Tell me when you're ready, guys.
Guys, I've got my clock ready.
They really are truly insane.
I have to thank Robert Darvey for sending me this clip.
It's actually, I think it's like 10 minutes long and I just took the last 30-40 seconds, asked Mr. G to get a clip for us.
This is a Hollywood, you know, Holly Weird director, kind of mouthpiece politically for the crazies in Los Angeles.
And it gives you a glimpse behind the curtain of what the left is really planning for America.
His name is Matthew Cook and this is from his social media account.
Play cut.
Go ahead.
Keep using the old slave laws to false multiply your votes.
Keep tricking all your scared, angry, ignorant old white people into supplication before your orange golden calf.
But we're gonna beat you.
We're gonna replace you.
And we're gonna change the culture.
Not this election, but out in the streets.
Because you cannot have this land.
You cannot have this country.
It was never yours in the first place.
What, and it was yours?
Just that language.
Listen to that language.
We're going to replace you.
I thought replacement theory was a conspiracy conjured up by Tucker Carlson.
We're going to quote-unquote beat you?
We're going to beat you on the streets?
That's kind of Ray Epps language, isn't it?
Isn't that the language of insurrection, Matthew Cook?
You'll beat us.
You'll fight us on the streets.
You'll replace us.
You'll take back the country from us because we never had it.
And what you did?
Hollywood owned America.
This is why we actually fight.
This is the real reason.
Because this isn't the Democrat Party.
Yes, we know the history of the Democrat Party.
The racism, the bigotry, the KKK, the Jim Crow laws, the slave traders of the South.
That is the legacy of the Democrat Party.
There was no such thing as a Southern strategy.
That's garbage.
In the 20th century, it kind of ameliorated to a certain extent.
Some sane people got involved in Democrat politics, and some patriots, like JFK.
Yeah, okay, he was personally a problematic individual, but he loved America, and he was an ardent anti-communist.
These people are communists.
They hate America.
And that's the difference between us and them.
It is the one dividing line.
It's not political parties.
It's not skin color.
It's not sexual proclivity.
It is whether you love America or whether you hate America.
That is the only thing that divides us today.
And those are the stakes of the next election in just over three weeks time.
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They plot, they plan, they deceive.
Do you know what the word gaslighting refers to?
It comes from an old movie with Ingmar Bergman about a woman who is convinced that her senses aren't telling her the truth.
She must be insane!
Do you feel like you're being gaslit by this administration?
Because, allegedly, we're not in a recession.
Welcome to America First one-on-one with a very special in-studio guest who I'm going to ask to comment on this fresh clip from the man who sadly bears the title President of the United States.
There's no guarantee that there's going to be a recession.
I don't think there will be a recession.
If it is, it'll be a very slight recession.
That is, we'll move down slightly.
Look, think about what's happened.
We have done more.
We're in a better position than any other major country in the world, economically and politically.
We are we still have real problems.
But look, look, look, look, look, we got done.
We passed so much legislation that significantly makes a makes a point about, you know, for example, the American Rescue Plan, the legislation to deal with inflation, the Inflation Act.
We moved along.
I mean, there's so much has been accomplished that the idea that there is something there's an automaticity to recession is just not is just not there.
They keep they've been predicting this off and on for the last.
But you just said that a slight recession is possible.
It is possible.
Look, it's possible.
I don't anticipate it.
You mean we don't have one right now?
We haven't been in two quarters of negative growth?
And by the way, for those of you who are just listening, God bless you all.
We love our radio listeners.
That was Jake Tapper, who in the middle of that question, that rambling question, as Biden dropped his note cards, because he needs note cards to ramble inanely, Tapper Tapper bends over to pick them up and give them back to his buddy.
So let's ask a real expert.
He is former advisor to President Trump, senior fellow at the Conservative Mothership Heritage Foundation.
He wrote the book, literally the book, on how President Trump did it.
It's called Trumponomics and he's in studio.
Stephen Moore, great to have you in studio.
Good to be with you, Sebastian.
I listened to that interview and, boy, he lost a beat when he dropped his talking cards, didn't he?
Let me just, a simple question.
You're the economist.
Have we just suddenly had a reversal of the definition of recession?
Of course.
Because we're being told we're not in one, Stephen.
The left has redefined everything in the American economy.
They've redefined what mostly peaceful means.
They've redefined recession.
Look, I'm extraordinarily frustrated when I hear this president talk about all the problems that he inherited.
No.
We had a booming economy under Donald Trump.
We were coming out of COVID.
We were ready for a full-throttled recovery and an accelerating economy.
And instead, Biden comes in, spends and borrows $4 trillion, and he throws us into a recession that could turn into, I don't want to scare people, but I think we're on the verge of a financial crisis in this country when you look at what's happening with rising interest rates, with rising inflation, with the stock market in a state of collapse.
I mean, this is a ferocious bear market.
It didn't have to be like this.
If Trump were president today, I guarantee you, the economy would be flourishing.
We'd be talking about prosperity.
We wouldn't be talking about a recession.
We'd be talking about a booming market.
The way that my buddy Larry Kudlow puts it is, Trump left a low inflation boom economy for Biden, and he's turned it into a high inflation bust economy.
And let's be very clear here.
This isn't a function of exogenous factors that are out of the control of the government.
We've had COVID.
I get it.
We've had a war in Russia, but we're talking about conscious policy decisions that are actually damaging Americans lives.
Well, that's exactly right.
So it's so important for people to understand what's going on, not just in the United States, Sebastian, but it's happening around the world.
So since COVID hit, Governments around the world, especially the advanced countries, spent an estimated $22 trillion.
I didn't say billion.
$22 trillion.
That's three times the cost of the war in Afghanistan in 20 years.
It's actually four times the cost of fighting and winning World War II, for goodness sakes.
So this massive amount of spending, and by the way, they all call it stimulus.
But this didn't stimulate anything except government.
And so the reason that the whole world is facing a financial collapse right now is you have just deluged the world economy with massive amounts of government debt, never conjured up before in history.
And Biden comes in, he added $4 trillion to that.
The solution to this is to take a chainsaw at our government spending and bring it down so we can get to balanced budgets, we can bring inflation down, and of course the other component of this that you and I have talked about in the past is, you know, we should be producing every single teaspoon of oil and gas that we have in this country to make a... I mean, oh my god, I get so frustrated.
So I hear these Democrats saying, oh, we've got to punish Saudi Arabia.
We've got to punish them because they're reducing their output.
Well, OPEC and Saudi Arabia were toothless tigers when Trump was president.
Because we were exporting.
Exactly!
We were the number one producer.
We didn't need to buy their oil.
Not only that, but you can't have a cartel when the number one producer isn't part of your cartel.
So if I sound a little angry, I am, because this is causing real pain and suffering to the American people.
And it ain't getting better, it's getting worse.
Every time I turn around, there's some new spending proposal.
And I guarantee you, when this recession gets worse, because I am worried about a crash landing now, what are they going to do?
Spend another trillion dollars?
We'll talk about it, because the people I respect the most, the guy I listen to for my financial advice, all of them are saying it's going to be bad.
And it might be as bad as 2008, and it is coming.
So here's the naive question I ask you.
You are the economist.
I just read these books from Hayek, von Mises, and I thought this argument was done and dusted.
I thought by, you know, 89, the Keynesian spend, spend, spend interventionist government was seen for what it was, a generator of inflation, of debt, and the good guys won, who said, get the government out of the market, allow the freedom of the individual, the small businesses.
How are we 40 years, 30 years later, Seemingly, back at where we were in 1945, when, you know, the serfdom of nations had to be written to educate people after World War II.
It's something that keeps me up at night, wondering how we got off of the path of freedom and free enterprise, and we have circled back.
You talk about the, you know, policies, you know, pre-1945, but, you know, just go back to the 1970s, when you had, you know, You have Nixon, Ford, and Carter, and you had high inflation and high massive government spending.
And Reagan comes in.
He cuts taxes.
He reduced regulation.
He gets the government out of the way.
By the way, we have in our newsletter today a great clip from Reagan from his farewell speech that he gave when he left.
And he said, always remember, the government works for us.
We don't work for them.
That message is as prescient today as it was then.
So we've allowed government, this idea that government is a stimulus, no.
The only way, Sebastian, the government can give me a dollar is to take a dollar away from you.
It's a zero-sum game.
It's a negative-sum game.
Again, this might be, you know, debating the number of, you know, angels that can dance on the head of a pin, but I'm curious, because you follow these things.
You know the Chicago school.
Yes.
What happened?
Were the ideas of the Chicago school suddenly forgotten in the 1990s?
What happened?
I think what happened was that the left, you know, we had the freedom revolution that really began in 1980 with Reagan and Thatcher.
And it spread around the world.
And that was, by the way, the greatest period of prosperity for the 80s, 90s, up until about 2010 or 12.
But during this time when freedom and living standards around the world were growing, the left did something that we weren't paying attention to.
We should have been, Sebastian.
What did they do?
They infiltrated every single cultural institution in our country.
The universities, the media, the churches, the press.
All of the, you know, everything that people was learning was exactly the opposite of what the truth is.
It got so bad that about this time last year, there were 14 Nobel Prize economists who won Nobel Prizes in economics who said in a pre-sign in the New York Times, Biden's agenda will not cause inflation.
Whoops.
Wow.
That's my number.
It is.
That's utterly mine.
Okay, follow this man for somehow he's got the Stephen Moore, I think there's more than one person in the world with that name, but he's got the Twitter account!
Stephen Moore with a PH.
You can follow his work at heritage.org, the conservative mothership, and also the book, literally.
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All right, I have to play a clip to you to put your work in context, Stephen, for President Trump.
It is the current incumbent of the White House, again, trying to gaslight the nation.
Cut to, play cut.
Applicants for new small businesses up 30% compared to before the pandemic.
And the fastest economic growth in nearly 40 years.
There's more as well.
Today, America is the only leading economy in the world where household incomes and the economy as a whole are stronger than they were before the pandemic, even accounting for price increases.
The economy I inherited nearly a year ago wasn't just in crisis.
It wasn't working for working people.
I told you that's the reason I ran.
It's about time the middle class and working class people got a shot.
The economy he inherited was the economy that was facilitated by my old boss, President Trump.
He described it as an economy in crisis.
You helped to shape it.
You advised.
Are you responsible for an economy in crisis, Stephen Moore?
Well, look, I mean, the economy, we had the best economy ever.
Can you walk us through that?
Can you walk us through before COVID?
Because it's a throwaway line, but it's true.
It's the strongest economy.
In world history, correct?
Practically.
I mean, you asked the question before we went to break, you know, how, when Larry Kudlow and I would meet with Trump and, and talked about economic policy starting in about late 2015 when he was just started running for president.
The thing that was amazing is like every time Larry and I would walk out of the room, we'd go, he gets it.
He just gets it.
As a businessman should.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, this is one of the things that really, you know, like, I don't always agree with Donald Trump.
Sometimes he does things I disagree with him, but he was the CEO.
And I don't always like his antics, but he had this instinct about how to make things grow, how to build things.
I mean, you look at people like, you know, Barack Obama or Joe Biden or any of the people in his cabinet, they've never done anything.
Well, that figure, that recent figure by one of the media outlets on the right, 62% of everyone in the White House who has a... Yeah, that was our study.
Sorry, your study.
That none of them have... By the way, we didn't just find 62% didn't have... Hey, let's finish the sentence.
Didn't have private sector experience who are writing economic policy.
And I just wanted to clarify that because people get confused.
I don't mean they didn't run a business.
No.
I mean, they didn't even work for a business.
Right.
These people couldn't run around a lemonade stand.
Trump instinctively knew how to make things work.
And they did work.
And we put the plan together.
He knew what he wanted to do.
And it worked.
We had the lowest poverty rate, the lowest unemployment rate, huge wage gains for American workers.
We were, I know you heard this a thousand times, folks, but it bears repeating, for the first time in our lifetime, we were energy independent.
I've told you this, by the way, Sebastian.
He'd always get mad at me when I said we could be energy independent.
He said, "I wanna be energy dominant." And we were!
I mean, can you imagine how things have changed in 22 months?
Now we have a president that has to go lay prostrate in front of the Saudis?
And Venezuela.
And a socialist in Venezuela.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.
And it's also unpatriotic.
It's doing real damage to our economy.
And it's, as you know, it's a real danger to our national security as well.
So when you went in there to advise, when we were new, because I wasn't doing economics, they made me an observer on the National Economics Council, but I sat in the back row.
But when you went in there to advise, give us a sense of what were the first things that had to be done in 2016 to create that growth?
Well, first of all, he knew we had to get the government out of the way because our great private entrepreneurs in this country will build great businesses and they will hire people.
And we did that.
We just removed so many obstacles.
Another thing that Trump doesn't get enough credit for, that I think we all now appreciate, is he was the first president in modern times, where were the Clintons, where were the Bushes, where was Obama, that recognized China Yeah.
As the existential threat that it has become.
Let me jump in here very quickly.
Where do you stand on the use of tariffs and protectionism when you're facing nations such as China that devalue their currency?
Are you a free marketer?
Or what were you saying to President Trump?
Well, I'm a free trade guy.
I'm in free markets.
But when you're dealing with an enemy like China, That is a military threat, a national security threat, that is involved in predatory economic practices.
I mean, I don't know about you, I believe that China is Germany circa 1937.
It's our number one strategic threat.
So I would be in favor of placing a tariff on Chinese goods.
Why don't we tax the stuff that's coming in from China and take off the taxes on things we produce here?
What an idea!
Nice.
You know, I think that's what Trump wanted to do.
Is there any other area of the world or any other trading partner that we should treat differently?
You would know that better than I do.
Oh, you mean from a threat assessment perspective?
Yeah, I mean, I know China is an extraordinary danger to our country.
I don't know.
Well, obviously, Russia would at this point probably fall into that.
But I saw the other day, you know, Biden said, How dare the Saudis reduce their oil output when we're just playing in the hands of Russia?
Really?
That's exactly what you're doing!
That's what he did.
Look in the mirror, Joe Biden!
Yeah.
Right?
Absolutely stunning.
Dear friends, the book is Trumponomics.
Get it right now, because I do think it might be very, very irrelevant for the 47th President of the United States, who, God willing, will also have been the 45th President of the United States.
If you want to know how he did it, And how we can get there again, you've got to read the plan.
It is inside the America First plan to revive our economy.
You can follow him at Stephen with a PH Stephen Moore at Twitter and also the Heritage Foundation.
All right, I've got like a list of 12 things I want to ask you.
I keep adding to them as you keep talking.
Let's talk about the people who are in the building.
The other thing that Trump does not get enough credit for, and he's criticized for when he deserves praise, is the way he dealt with COVID.
We have to do our homework.
Everybody was very confused at the beginning.
We didn't know what we were dealing with.
We hadn't had a virus like this in '67. - We had to do our homework. - Yeah, so we were all confused.
And, you know, Trump, we remember at the beginning we closed down the economy.
And I remember Trump wanted to get the economy opened as quickly as he could. - He did. - And all his health advisors, Fauci and people, "Oh, you can't do that." All the Democrats, no, no, no, no.
And he did.
And then he made a big decision that was incredibly important.
He basically said, you know what, we'll let the states decide what they want to do, which is our system of federalism.
Which is America.
And I guarantee you, Sebastian, If Biden had been president, or Obama had been president at that time, they would have shut down the whole damn economy.
It would have been a federal.
It would have been.
You wouldn't have had Texas and Florida and Iowa and all these other states that were open.
The red states stayed open.
The blue states closed down.
And the red states almost literally carried the country on its shoulders.
My point is, we would have had a Great Depression if someone else had been president.
If you hadn't followed that federal system of states' rights.
Yeah, and then, you know, then the blue state said, hey, maybe we better open up our economies.
Look what's happening in Florida and Texas and Tennessee.
So he does not get the credit.
The left still, and they still want to lock down things by the way, Sebastian.
No, I know.
I mean, these people are nuts.
Every time there's going to be a flu virus, they're going to want to shut down our economy.
Fauci will be here at 120.
He'll be stelling us, you know, put six masks on this time and a body condom.
I mean, that's what Fauci will be doing.
Stephen, let's go back to the fact that I reminded all of our listeners we've got two more years.
Two more years of this federal executive.
My argument is the following.
Tell me if this is crazy.
It's a simplistic analysis.
But if you've got a problem, the current state of the economy, you can only fix any problem based upon two provisos.
Number one, those who have to fix it have to admit there's a problem.
If an alcoholic doesn't admit they're an alcoholic, they keep on drinking, right?
Number one.
Number two, once you say, yes, I have a problem, whatever it is, an illness, a broken car, what have you, you have to have the skill set to fix it.
In this current environment for the next two years, both of those prerequisites are missing.
The administration says no problem, no recession, everything's hunky-dory.
And secondly, as your study shows, they don't have the skill, they don't even know how to fix it!
Which means it can only get worse, and the only mild break on the system is if the Republicans have the House and can, with purse strings, somehow restrict.
Hopefully.
Is that the only thing?
They can stop the bad things.
They can stop the bad things, but they can't, we need to take action in a positive way to get the economy, get taxes down, stop these regulations.
I guarantee you, when the republics are going to take the house for certain, and I think there's a good chance they're going to win the senate, the one thing that they need to do is rein in these regulatory agencies that are just strangling our businesses.
This latest one, that nobody will be allowed to be an independent contractor, this latest thing coming out of labor, that everybody must be a, quote, employee.
I mean, that's going to kill tens of millions of jobs.
And small businesses, too.
I mean, the big businesses are in favor of this, because they're already unionized.
So we've got to do these things.
I think we need...
We need to take on this cult of climate change.
I read these documents that they put out, these big 1,200-page... They're hyper-obsessed with three things on the left.
Race, income inequality, and climate change.
You read these things, you know, what Trump and Reagan and Thatcher talked about is growth, prosperity, free enterprise.
Those words, and security, those words are never even to be found in these documents.
So how can you get across the goal line Well, you're not even headed towards the goal line!
So, is my depiction accurate?
That incompetence, arrogance, worshipping the environment, transgenderism and everything else, for two years, a mild, a mild break on the worst of it, via the purse strings in Congress, and then some hope in a Trumponomics You've got to have the White House.
You can't grow the economy when you've got a nincompoop in the White House.
And that's unfortunately what we have.
You can stop a lot of the, you know, we're not going to hopefully do $4 trillion more excess spending.
And then, you know, whether it's going to be Donald Trump or a Ron DeSantis or, you know, we have so many superstars actually in our governor's offices, really good people, but I mean, my God, they've dug us into a deep hole.
That's the other thing I hope people realize.
Even, let's say, Trump takes back, he's going to have to spend the first two years just filling the hole.
Undo the damage.
And that damage could last, I mean, when you borrow $4 trillion, it's not your kids, it's your grandkids.
It's generations and generations.
Exactly.
We're talking to Stephen Moore, distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation, former advisor to President Trump.
I can't tell you the number of times I've been talking to him and he says, sorry I have to go, got to talk to President Trump, got to talk to Mike Pence because that's how much his views are respected.
Let me ask you perhaps an indelicate question, although recent statements coming from Speaker McCarthy or putative Speaker McCarthy, Are perhaps positive indications.
Where is the Chamber of Commerce in all of this?
Are they just, you know, open borders, illegal immigrants working in our restaurants?
I mean, have we lost the Chamber of Commerce to the left?
Look, some issues the chamber is with us and some issues they're not.
They supported this big chips bill, which I was against.
You know, we're going to subsidize our semiconductor industry.
But I've always believed that what Trump did, he really engineered a political realignment.
It used to be the Republicans were sort of the party of the rich and the Democrats were the party of the poor.
Donald Trump made the Republican Party the party of the middle class, the working class.
And the Democrats are the rich white people of the big cities.
Exactly.
I mean, it's stunning.
The very poor and the elite.
Look, if you're a millionaire or a billionaire, you don't care if you have 8, 9, 10 percent inflation.
It doesn't affect you.
I've always found when I'm walking down the street and stuff, people might recognize me.
You probably experience this all the time.
It's just working class regular folks who thank you for what you did for President Trump.
Thank you.
Tell Donald Trump we're behind him.
It's not the Hollywood executives who say thank you.
It's not Bezos.
It's the electrician.
It's the people who are working hard, who do real work.
I mean, you found that, isn't it true?
I have to say, I'm not going to give any names away, but I spent September the 11th, I spent the whole weekend in New York, in Brooklyn, with firefighters.
I was doing a documentary, and I was in the firehouse.
Every single one of them said to me, everyone said, he's running, right?
He's running.
I mean, these are guys that are running into burning buildings, aren't exactly earning a lot of money.
I met 60-year-old firemen.
They're still working, 60 years old, and they understood what it means to have a thriving economy.
OK, let's ask about...
Inflation, spending.
What is the cause of inflation?
What's the simplest cause?
In this instance, it's massive out-of-control government spending.
We flooded the zone with all these cheap dollars, and it's as clear as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, you're going to have inflation.
You've got to get the spending down.
It's not just the United States.
All these countries have let their governments run wild.
My latest column is called, Government Spending is the New Virus.
Oh, and let's put up the other thing that went viral, not the spending that went viral, but this speech that you gave recently for FreedomWorks.
FreedomWorks, yeah.
It was recorded on Zero Hedge, the, you know, the eponymously named Tyler Durden column.
Here's the seven ways America is being destroyed.
Went utterly, utterly viral.
Eric, print me a hard copy because I need to read it.
Give us a couple of things that just demonstrate that there is no question that this administration is dismantling America.
Yeah, so I wrote this speech because I've always asked, you probably too, are they doing this intentionally?
Are they trying to destroy our country?
What else would you do differently if you wanted to destroy America?
So that was the point of my talk.
It's like, I don't know if it's intentional because I don't get to people's motivations, but I said, if you did want to destroy the country, you would do almost exactly the same.
I think I can recite all this.
Number one, you would get rid of the border.
Right.
Number two, you'd destroy the country's energy supply.
Number three, you would degrade its currency.
They've done a good job.
That's what inflation is.
Number four, you'd destroy the financial system when you borrow $4 trillion.
Number five, you would use governmental power to go after your enemies.
And that's one of the scariest things of all.
I mean, literally, I don't know about you, Sebastian.
You probably should.
I worry that there's going to be a knock at the door and the FBI is going to Well after what we heard the day after yesterday in terms of a million dollar bounty for dirt on President Trump from the FBI.
Not a political smear company, the FBI offering a million dollars.
And this is what happens in third world countries when you have tyrants.
They use the power of government to go after the political enemies and then of course you would let crime run rampant and finally you would divide the country.
And that's what the left does.
You give that speech at Independence Hall, right, about the extreme thread of the MAGA hat-wearing Republicans.
And then it's black versus white, it's rich versus poor, it's straight versus gay.
They see everyone in their little silos rather than e pluribus unum, you know, out of many one.
Trump loved it.
He, you know, he did really well with Hispanic voters, by the way.
Hispanics love Trump.
Ten million more minority voters after four years of being called a racist and a bigot.
That's quite impressive.
And do you know why he did so well with them?
Tell me.
Because they did so well economically.
They had jobs, they had higher incomes, they felt safe in their homes.
I mean, the minorities are the ones who are the victims of most of these crimes.
Yes.
I have to ask this question because you've been fighting against this issue so valiantly for years.
It feels as if, you know, it's a Greek tragedy, this Sisyphean task, rolling a boulder uphill that always gets rolled down at the end of the day.
Is debt just going to grow forever?
Are we just going to just print money forever?
Because I look at two parties.
If people keep buying these bonds, Then you can keep the music playing.
I think what keeps me up at night as an economist, what happens when there's a revolt?
I'm not buying those bonds anymore.
And that day could come sooner.
Look at what's happening in Britain right now.
We're not buying your bonds anymore.
The Bank of England almost collapsed.
Yes.
So, this is extraordinary.
When I came to Washington in 1985, the national debt was about $1.5 trillion.
Now it's $31.5 trillion.
So is there any realistic solution, Stephen?
Grow.
Grow the economy.
Prosperity.
Put more people to work.
We've got to stop paying people not to work.
We're missing 4 million people who were working under Trump that are not working under Biden.
You know why they're not?
Because we're paying them not to work!
I mean, we're taxing people who are successful, and we're giving the money out to people who are staying at home.
We've got to rebuild our defenses.
We have to secure our borders.
Look, I'm pro-immigration.
I think immigrants are great for our country, but you've got to have an orderly process where we know we're not letting in criminals and drug runners and that kind of thing.
We've spent, by my calculations, over a trillion dollars on climate change.
We've spent 50 billion dollars on a problem that has killed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Americans, which is fentanyl and all of the drugs.
Think if we just took one-tenth of that money.
In many cities, the leading cause of death of young people right now is drug overdoses.
Is Biden doing anything about that?
Almost twice the number in one year that died in 10 years of the Vietnam War.
110,000 in the last 12 months, vise... What's Biden doing on that?
Allowing more in.
Allowing more in.
We're talking to Stephen Moore.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First, one-on-one, coming to you from just outside the insalubrious, fetid, malodorous swamp that is Washington, D.C., from the reliefactor.com studio.
All right, so let's do a little bit of future planning, a little bit of rather realistic role playing.
President Trump runs.
He crushes those who run against him.
He defeats either Kamala Harris, gruesome Newsom from California, or please, Lord, please let it be Hillary.
Please let her run again so he can defeat her again.
He defeats the Democrat candidate, and he comes in to be, for the second time only, I think, in our history, a president who serves two terms that are not consecutive – Day one, you're there.
You get the phone call from President Trump in the Oval and he says, Steve, I need you right here.
Given, you said, such a deep ditch has been dug already by the Bidens, What does he have to do in addition to the Trumponomics of the first four years?
He has to issue executive orders overturning almost all of Biden's, you know, all of his regulations.
And that means get the pipelines built, get the refineries built, get the LNG terminals, get American energy going.
I would call for an immediate across-the-board cut in government spending of about 10 percent.
I mean, my God, these agencies have grown by 40, 50, 60 percent.
And then you've got to Really looking at a budget that is oriented towards re-energizing, restocking our military, but the social programs, paying people not to work is catastrophic.
You can make $80,000, $90,000 in this country as a couple and not work a single hour.
I talk to small businessmen like the guy who just painted my deck.
They can't find, whether it's in Virginia, whether it's in West Virginia, whether it's in New Hampshire, they can't find people who want to work.
We can't get a plumber.
We can't get an electrician.
We can't try to get a rental car.
If you want to get a new car these days, you wait nine months.
If you want to get the new car right now, you have to pay a $10,000 or $15,000 bribe.
Do you recall under Trump us talking about supply chain problems?
50 years I haven't heard it!
I know where that term comes from.
How many times did we talk about OPEC when Trump was president?
That's a superb thing.
Let's just play one quick cut before we finish.
This is a cut for President Trump recently at one of his rallies.
Play cut.
One of the most important lessons of the past two years is that to be a strong nation, America must also be a manufacturing nation.
We have to bring back our manufacturing.
We cannot count on China or any other country.
To give us our critical products.
And we cannot have our vital supply chains.
Whoever heard of this, you can't get anything.
The stores are half empty.
We have a supply chain.
Nobody ever even talked about this.
And this all came out of the stench of the Biden administration.
All came out of the stench of the Biden administration.
Nobody ever heard of supply chain before, unless you were, you know, a general of logistics in the army.
Got 10 seconds left.
I need some good... I mean, we've had a cold shower with Stephen now on economics.
Need some good news.
The cavalry is coming.
People are going to turn out.
You're going to see one of the biggest wipeouts of Democrats in this midterm election.
Okay, that's political.
That's political cavalry.
When it comes to your special bailiwick, it's fixable, right, Stephen Moore?
Oh, yeah.
Look, this is America.
We fix things.
The future is still bright.
We've got to get past this president.
We've got to put people who love our country back.
And who put America first?
What's wrong with that?
I'm a MAGA Republican.
You know?
Sue me.
I love it.
Come after us.
We are MAGA Republicans.
There's my hat.
There's my MAGA hat right behind me.
Did you hear what Stephen Moore said?
Of course we can fix it.
We're Americans.
God bless you all.
What fun.
Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, keep your head on a swivel.
Watch your six.
Hold the line.
Never give up.
Never give in.
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