Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: How to Dismantle the FBI
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Usually we save this time for a monologue, but it's far too important to talk to the person who called me last night about a bombshell story that broke, the likes of which we've never seen in America before.
I was sitting with my son, who's just had surgery.
We were enjoying a nice cigar, watching a Star Wars show on television, and I was interrupted by a true journalist, a man called John Solomon, who's worked at every serious news company that used to do journalism.
When he realized that they don't do journalism anymore, he decided to create his own news agency and platform.
It's called JustinNews.com, and I will read the title of the article that he sent me right after he called me.
It's at justinews.com, title, Bombshell revelation of $1 million offer to Christopher Steele shows FBI misled Congress on Russia probe.
Bombshell.
That is not an adequate description for the news of a million dollars of your taxpayer funding being used for a smear campaign against a president.
And I'm delighted that he can join us right now.
He is the host of Just The News, Not Noise, John Solomon.
Welcome to America First.
Good to be with you, Sam.
So, tell us what we learned yesterday in that court in Virginia, in Alexandria, as the trial of the Russian nationalist.
It's funny how the mainstream media says, America-based researcher.
They don't tell you where he's from, but the fact that he's actually a Russian is so telling.
So, tell us about this truly, truly historic bombshell.
Yeah, and let's keep in mind, he's not only a Russian, he's a Russian that the FBI had a counterintelligence probe open on because they thought he was trying to buy secrets from the Obama administration.
So, he's a Russian citizen who the FBI had deep suspicions might be tied to Russian intelligence.
And, uh, despite that, they bring Danchenko onto the payroll after they already had Christopher Steele on the payroll.
Two foreigners they're using to build a case against an American president, both of them feeding what turned out to be disinformation to them.
So the timetable is so important.
It's one month before the 2016 election, the end of the 2016 presidential election.
Christopher Steele's given the FBI the dossier, according to Brian Auten.
Let's just fill in a little bit of color.
Christopher Steele, former MI6 intelligence officer, who in a court of law in London under oath admitted to antipathy to President Trump.
So this is a Trump hater who is former intelligence and who is involved in this whole smear campaign.
Sorry, carry on John.
And on the payroll of Hillary Clinton.
He's being paid by Hillary Clinton's law firm to do this work.
Christopher Steele's given the dossier.
The FBI spent some time, according to Brian Autin, the chief analyst, and they can't corroborate anything in the Steele dossier.
They're about to go to the FISA court and want to use the Steele dossier to support their argument for a search warrant on Carter Page and the Trump campaign.
They can't authenticate everything.
They go overseas.
They visit with Christopher Steele and say, well, even though you're already our confidential human source, we'll give you a million dollars if you can show us the proof for this.
And he says, no, I'm not going to do it.
They then come back to the United States, they again go to the court, they take the information from Christopher Steele's dossier, they put it in to the FISA, and they argue that it's verified.
It's stamped verified on the top of the thing, even though they know it's unverified information.
They were so desperate to get Donald Trump, they were willing to dish a million dollars out to get Christopher Steele to lure the evidence.
He doesn't bite on it.
They still go to the court with his stuff and try to tell the judge that it is verified and good intelligence.
That's what happened a couple of weeks before the election was going on.
The FBI was not only putting its thumb on the scale trying to affect the election, they were trying to deceive a court about something they knew was unverified.
John, I'm going to ask an indelicate question.
When is the first time, what year did an article appear under your byline?
Give me a date.
March 2017 is the first time I started to unravel.
No, no, no.
The first article you ever wrote as a journalist.
Oh my gosh, I was 16 years old, so let me do the math on that.
It would have been 1985.
Okay, 1985, so almost 40 years ago, 37 years in the business.
I have to ask you, have you ever, in any type of case, heard of the FBI offering a million dollars against a political candidate for dirt?
In 37 years, have you ever heard that?
This total, this type of money only is reserved for people like on the most wanted list, like the most wanted terrorists.
They offer like between one and five millions if you get one of those guys.
You don't, I never heard it offered up against an American, never heard it offered up during an election, never heard it offered up against a sitting presidential candidate and eventual future president.
And more importantly, not only have I not heard it, I interviewed lots of FBI agents and experts and former assistant directors.
All of them said to the T, this is insane.
We would never do this.
This had to come from the seventh floor of the FBI.
Meaning the leadership?
Yeah, James Comey and Andrew McCabe.
Alright, so we had a little chat last night.
I'd like to share as much of it as you're comfortable to share on radio.
There's a couple of theories with regards to John Durham and I will give the most charitable and you tell you be my journalistic sanity check.
There are limitations.
He's got a good reputation.
He's put FBI corrupt cops in prison.
He worked the Whitey Bulger case in Boston, one of the hardest cities in America.
So he's a serious dude, John Durham.
However, he knows the limitations inside the FBI, how politicized it has become, how in DC, for example, there's no way he'd get a conviction.
against a crooked FBI senior leadership member.
As such, his plan was just to get out in the open, through the Danchenko case, through other cases, as much of the information as possible to allow others, like Congress, to dig deeper.
Am I being rose-tinted?
Am I being too charitable?
You followed the cases in great, great detail.
What is your suspicion when it comes to Durham's strategy?
Yeah, listen, only John Durham knows what he's really trying to do, and he's kept things very close to the vest.
He's not a leaker.
He's a very methodical investigator.
But let's first acknowledge something.
With multiple subpoena powers, the House and Senate never got this information on the million-dollar payment.
The Inspector General, which ran the most exhaustive investigation to date, didn't mention and therefore doesn't appear to have had the million-dollar payment.
That's an extraordinary thing.
John Durham has found things that nobody else has found.
There's a big question.
When you see this, people say, why not charge the FBI?
We now know they knew what they sent the court was wrong.
They were putting million-dollar bounties on to try to trip someone into proving it.
The theory that most people have is that after the Sussman trial, the Durham team, again, Not directly from John Durham, but from outsiders watching this.
When Sussman couldn't get convicted on the lie that they had proven he had made, and in fact, I think the jury forward said, yeah, he lied.
We just don't feel like punishing anyone.
They probably, the theory that a lot of people on the outside have is, he just decided, listen, I'm not gonna be able to prosecute these FBI agents in Washington and New York where it's 60, 70, 80% Democrat cities.
So I'm just gonna tell the story.
I'm gonna use my court motions and my trial testimony That's the theory people have.
No one knows until the end is over and John Durham raises his hand at a congressional hearing what really went on.
But there's no doubt yesterday, this revelation actually helps the defense side.
This revelation about the FBI offering a million dollars, it's clearly going to help the defense.
Danchenko's saying, you're accusing me of lying, but they're lying to the FISA court.
I think he put it out there because it had extraordinary value to the American people.
And we'll see how this trial now plays out as a result of this revelation.
Everyone in the FBI world I've talked to from line agents to whistleblowers to senior executives said they're shocked by this.
Yeah, this is really the biggest story in America right now and should be for months and years to come.
The only thing that we have to do And I do this on behalf of three million of our listeners is to thank you, John.
As I tweeted out last night, you never gave up.
Your commitment to the truth in the face of smears yourself was indefatigable and we owe you, John.
Please follow this man.
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God bless you, John.
All right.
Can we post that fast?
The FBI knew the Russia hoax was a lie.
How did all of us forget about Solomon?
The FBI knew the Russia hoax was a lie.
How did all of us forget about Solomon?
Forget?
Yeah, that he was coming on.
We didn't.
He was having problems with his computer.
Oh.
I meant to text you, but I texted his assistant.
Do you want to do ins and outs real quick?
Yes.
Stay with us here one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gawker, and Steve Moore.
We'll be back with Steve Moore after these messages.
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You want the mics off for Gill?
No, your mic's gonna be on.
Alrighty.
Switch screen.
Go ahead.
And mics are live.
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How we doing?
Good.
You're not gonna be on with Steve Moore anytime soon, are you?
He just left.
I know.
He just left.
I can hear that.
I can hear the sound bites.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright, so... Is there anything relevant?
Oh!
Can you come in with the... Muddy Oaks.
Actually, I'll tee up the pickup truck, and then we'll do Mighty Oaks, and then I'll come to Jonathan.
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No need for serious.
The pickup truck video.
Yes.
Alright, let me just see what I can read to Jonathan.
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Alright, I'm gonna read a sentence from the article from Justin News and then I'll get you to react to it, okay?
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If I could, I'd be talking about this one story all day.
I won't, because I know the world rotates.
But, um...
Never before.
Never before.
Since the founding of the FBI, has a million dollar bounty been given for smear attack lies against the President of the United States.
And I know, former FBI agent and SEAL and Federal Air Marshal, Jonathan Gillum has something to say about it.
Jonathan, welcome back to America First.
Good to be with you, my friend.
Yeah, this is our Good intro there because it shows the reality of what real law enforcement's all about and the teamwork that we have with veterans and Americans in general.
And then when you hear about this story with the FBI basically paying somebody for a smear campaign against the president, not just a smear campaign, but so they can go get warrants I swear out warrants from a judge and then go do surveillance on an American citizen.
It's just, it's very disheartening.
Can I just read a couple of lines from the piece from Justin News?
So here's the first one.
In the trial yesterday, this is day one of the trial of Danchenko, Durham is the prosecutor, he testified that in early, early 2006, October, the FBI offered Christopher Steele, the disgraced MI6 agent, up to a million dollars to provide corroborating evidence for his dossier.
He wasn't given the money because he was unable to prove the allegations in his own dossier.
So they wanted him to prove the allegations and he couldn't.
And then in the same month, Jonathan, the FBI Well that's correct.
It is.
to get a surveillance warrant against Carter Page in the Trump campaign with the same uncorroborated smear dossier.
Now, you know that you are not allowed to give a search warrant information that is unverified to a FISA court, correct?
Well, that's correct.
It is.
They have an entire unit that that's what they do.
They scrub information.
I've talked to several people that work, one of the people that was on that unit, and they're astounded that this stuff got through and that not only did that get through, but then it was put together with media hits on that information to use that as validation for the fake dossier.
Clearly, one of two things was happening there.
The people within the unit that verified that information either told the FISA court that, yes, this is true, which is a lie, which is against the law, or the FISA judge was involved and went right along with it.
So it's one of the two things.
I'm not sure which one it is.
Let me, another quote from a famous FBI whistleblower, Bassem Youssef, quote, never in my entire career have I heard of an offer to pay A source to corroborate their own information.
I mean, it's kind of surreal, isn't it?
Yeah, the FBI pays sources and then sources provide us information.
Some sources make a lot of money because they provide a lot of information.
These people are usually people who are in various predicaments where they could get killed or things could happen or the information is very serious for national security.
This is totally different.
This is information that they're trying to make up.
For, uh, because they don't like this, this, uh, person running for president.
And I can guarantee you, if we went back and we actually looked, uh, at what happened, I, from an investigative standpoint, look back at this and I can almost guarantee you that when they were going to pay him the million dollars, it was so that he could go out and come up with some kind of verification.
It didn't matter whether it was true or not.
They just wanted a verification.
Right.
They wanted him to verify.
It's great.
Give you a million dollars to verify your own lies.
I want you to sound off here.
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I know you wanted to react to what I put out on Twitter yesterday when it comes to Tarsie Gabbard.
I said, no, no, no, sorry.
I'm not supporting her.
She may have It called the Democrats out for being, you know, extremists, but this is a woman who pals around with murderers like Assad in Syria.
Give us your take on this big news of Tulsi Gabbard leaving the Democrats, Jonathan.
Chelsea Gabbard was born and raised by a leftist.
She politicked as a leftist.
And the only way I would ever trust her is if she found Jesus and publicly told us that she's committed her life to Him and that she is on the straight and narrow path.
And even then, I wouldn't want her in politics because we don't need people who've already been a part of the problem to repent and come and be a part of what's still a problem.
When I look at Tulsi Gabbard, I look at two things.
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That's just like saying, oh, well, this guy committed murder.
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Yeah, we gotta do due diligence, guys.
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Who said the seventh floor?
Was that Gilliam or was that Solomon?
It was Solomon.
Solomon.
Yeah, which is a pretty big deal.
Would he tell Casio to do clips of the A Block?
Yeah.
Including the Comey?
I still can't see you guys.
I need to see the room somewhere.
Can you see the call screen or two?
I can see the call screen.
I just can't see you guys.
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There you go.
Hello.
Hello.
Jeff hiding as usual.
I'm not hiding.
This is here.
I didn't put this here.
I need a cutout of Jeff that we can stick above the computer so I can actually see his face.
It'll cut out.
It's gotta be him smiling though.
He doesn't smile.
Geoff doesn't smile.
Have you ever seen Geoff... I think I've seen Geoff smile three times in four years.
Because I'm thinking.
That's why.
Did I give you one for more?
Not yet.
Okay.
Seven reasons.
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I haven't printed it yet.
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Do that.
The seven ways.
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and kill him?
Um...
What do you think?
I mean, the FBI thing is the big story of the day, but if you want some variety, you can briefly touch on the Tulsi thing.
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Okay, let's go to your cause.
But first, something strange happened.
With Jeff and a member of his family.
Someone who I have swum in the same swimming pool with.
Your young son, George.
What did he have to say about me, Jeff?
Yes, when you called yesterday, it was on in the car.
And he said, I know that guy.
He said, he's the guy we see on TV, we went swimming with.
And I said, yeah, do you know his name?
And he said, is it Joe Biden?
Yes, because I look exactly like Joe Biden.
This is what leads me to suspect.
Why would your son think that you know Joe Biden?
Has he seen Joe Biden around your house, Mr. G?
Nobody sees him on the news a lot.
News is in the background.
All right, well we'll have to remind little George that I am not Joe Biden and this is America First.
That did bring a smile to my face though.
Let's go to your calls first on the line.
Very patiently dialed in as soon as we went live across the nation.
Line one from South Carolina.
John, welcome back.
The quickest fingers in the southeast and possibly the nation.
You've got us on speed dial.
I know it, John.
Don't reveal any trade secrets.
Listen, we know that you're not Joe Biden, but you know, for Halloween, you might dress up like Ian Anderson, the frontman for Jethro Tull.
Oh my gosh, the guy with the long hair with the jazz flute?
Yeah, and just basically, you know, dressed up like who was the Mad Fagin, you know, basically was standing on one leg.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But why?
What have I got to do with Jethro Tull, John?
Yeah, listen, I memorized thick as a brick before I realized that it applied to the Democratic Party.
Man, you are taking me back.
I do like a bit of jazz flute, though.
But you're not that old.
How old are you, John?
155.
Oh, so you're younger than Biden.
Vitamins do wonders for the body.
You know that Biden is 80 next week?
80!
Impossible.
Incomprehensible.
Unbelievable.
But you didn't call up to discuss jazz flutes.
What's your question, John?
Yeah, but you really would make a good Ian Anderson.
I'm not sure that's a compliment, but let's move on.
You would need a wig and you need a flute.
Never mind.
Listen, I want to help us win the upcoming elections.
Yes.
And we need President Trump not talking about the past election and how wrong he was or the million dollar bounty that we just broke here.
He's basically the offended individual and we need him to get over his offense and to concentrate on why we need to get both the Senate and He understands building foundations, and that's what he's going to have to do.
He's going to have to set up this foundation before he can get reelected, and before anything can get done, and before any of these wrongs that have been done against him can be corrected.
He's going to need the House, and he's going to need the Senate.
Can I respond?
Please!
Sure, go!
Here's my take.
No, but, you know, you've been a supporter since the get-go and we love your calls, John.
You're one of the hardcore team.
So, here's my take.
So, half of me says yes.
I tuned into one of the two rallies last weekend and I caught him right in the middle of one of those, you know, recounting of what had been done to him.
Which, it's important that people understand he is the most Wrongly treated politician in American history who wasn't assassinated.
Let's just be factual, okay?
Short of, you know, JFK and Lincoln, this is a man who really has been through the wringer.
But you're right that at a certain point, enough is enough.
And you've got to look forward.
I would say that there's a nice caesura, there's a nice transition point when he declares.
When he declares, it's all forward looking.
But I'd say the following to you, John.
I disagree on the one million dollar bounty.
I think we have to ride that horse all the way into the White House.
Why?
Because that's The ultimate proof of the depth of the deep state.
That the FBI is giving a million dollars of your taxpayer money for lies and smears against a man who's running for the presidency.
Everyone has to know that.
We have to shout it from the rooftops.
But I kind of agree with you on the first point.
Stay on the line.
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Did we do a title for Moore?
Uh, yes.
The Seven Ways America's... Oh, good, good, good.
Uh, and you gave me Gillum, so yeah.
You all set?
Uh, for now, yes.
Alright.
Um... And then we'll do this video thing in a moment.
Um, yes.
Thank you.
Oh yeah, I have the script right here, printed out, larger font.
Two minutes.
I was asking Geoff, was this like, I thought they already had a verdict in this case, so apparently this is another one?
No, this is the damages.
Oh, this is... I thought, like, the judge already told him how much... Yeah, but there's actually a limit.
In Texas, you can't, you can't, you know, you can't... You can't do hundreds of millions of dollars.
Uh-huh.
There's actually a statute, so they had to go back and do it by the statute.
Oh.
Right, because he's from Texas, but this is in Connecticut, so I wasn't sure.
Oh, okay.
Makes sense.
Or actually, hang on, is this another case?
It's in Connecticut.
I'm pretty sure this is another case.
Oh, this must be another case.
From different parents, I think.
Wow, wow, wow.
That's right, yeah, it's like 30 different pairs of parents, I think, all sued him, yeah.
Yeah, Texas has a weird law that the jury can award whatever they want, a billion dollars, but then it says you can't award more than 1.2 million or something.
It's like a symbolic Whatever.
Alright, where are we?
We've got to do PhD, and we've got loads of cuts.
Yes.
Lots of Biden cuts.
Oh, we've got to do the CIA guy.
What's the second hour like?
Alright, I'm probably going to do the CIA guy.
That's... cut.
Oh, price.
Cut, six.
Yeah.
Your PhD here.
35 seconds.
Okay.
Thank you.
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John, Sherry, Judy, don't go anywhere.
But this clip from Fox yesterday is absolutely stunning, given the revelations that we heard about the million-dollar bounty for smear propaganda the FBI was willing to pay Christopher Steele.
This is David Preece Former CIA scumbag who is asked by Bret Baier, does he regret signing the letter with 50 other intelligence officers calling the Hunter Biden laptop most likely Russian disinformation?
Again, David Preece, former CIA cut six.
Do you regret signing on to the letter?
Oh, absolutely not.
Because those words are still true.
Do you think it changed the outcome of an election?
Oh, absolutely not.
No.
Even though it wasn't true?
It had the classic earmarks, but it wasn't true.
What is not true?
That it was Russian disinformation.
That's not what we said in the letter.
Read the actual letter and we said we do not know if this is Russian disinformation.
It has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.
Exactly.
The difference between an information campaign and a disinformation campaign and a misinformation campaign.
It's not my fault if people don't look up definitions.
I know, but the purpose of the letter is to have an effect.
And the nuance that you're talking about here never made it to candidate Biden because he said it plainly on a debate stage.
That obviously affected the dynamic, don't you think?
I would absolutely love for all news media to show nuance on all these issues instead of racing to soundbites.
And in this case, some news media raced to soundbites.
That's not helpful for the American people.
And I really wish that people It's helpful for the American people?
Well, instead of quoting one sentence from it, people actually read maybe an entire paragraph.
It shows that we don't know if it's Russian.
In retrospect, do you know if it affected anything?
I don't know if it affected anything.
We don't analyze American political environments.
What we're trying to do is point out that this has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information campaign.
Not to say it's Russian disinformation, but to say that the propagation through American media and international media has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information campaign because we've seen it Over and over and over again.
They love to sow these kind of divisions and exacerbate them.
That's not American.
That's Russian.
I got you.
Yeah, but it ended up being a Biden information campaign because he used it in the campaign and in that debate.
I encourage you to ask him about that.
What an arrogant... Sometimes I wish the FCC regulations could be like there could be a button that allows me to just have a little exemption for a few seconds.
Because David Priest is a heaping pile of dog excrement.
Did you listen to the arrogance?
Would be nice if some people looked up definitions of words.
You knew exactly what you were doing.
With 50 other intelligence officers you said, this looks like Russian disinformation!
You didn't do that to send a nuanced message of, well it might not be what it looks like.
You did it for Hillary.
You did it for Biden.
And they used it.
You're a scumbag.
Any oath you took.
To serve the nation, the constitution was shattered, was broached when you said, I'm putting my name to that letter.
That is the deep state in action.
Let's go to John in Tennessee.
Line two.
Welcome to America first.
Good afternoon, sir.
Thank you for taking my call.
I have an idea.
Uh, I, I, I think that we need to have these federal agents.
Let me shoot.
So, so what?
that's working inside of a government institution that is aware of corruption, they need to be able to come forward.
And now, I understand, yes, we would like for them to just simply come forward based on the courage of their soul, but many of them have a pension hanging over their head.
So what?
So what?
I mean, this is like the conversation I had with that nurse in New Hampshire at an event recently where we were talking about the transgender insanity of the left and the mutilation of children.
And she said, well, I work in a hospital where they're doing double mastectomies on young girls and removing the penises of boys who think that they're girls.
And I said, madam, Why?
Why?
And she says, well, I need the job.
Really?
You're going to have to stand in front of your creator after you die and account for your actions.
When somebody says, oh, I've got a pension.
Oh, so, so breaching the constitution is fine then, John, is it?
No, no, it's not.
However, my proposal though, is to give them something that it would be the financial, somebody setting up a fund that people could donate to saying, you know, the Whistleblower Protection Act.
So if you have a pension, and you... Well, it exists, John, it exists.
The Whistleblower Act exists, okay?
The trouble is, the Republicans don't do anything to make it a reality.
The Whistleblower Act states, no retribution may be taken against a U.S.
government employee for becoming a whistleblower.
Well, that's actually happening right now.
FBI whistleblowers are being punished.
We had one on the show.
Kyle Seraphim, who is being punished while he works for the FBI.
So the problem isn't the Act, John.
The problem is the lack of balls for the Congressional Republicans to actually fight according to the law.
Bingo!
You nailed it!
And we do that by making MAGA candidates win in the midterms, primering the rhinos out of existence.
We have to do it every single election and every single day.
Thank you, John.
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Yeah, he's going bankrupt.
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That's almost as bad as the Gawker lawsuit from Hulk Hogan.
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Ken, welcome to America First.
Oh, hi, Professor.
How are you?
Good, good.
What's up?
All right.
I'm still upset today about that jackass, David Priest, the former CIA.
Wasn't that shocking?
All right.
I can't begin to tell you the kind of anger that it gives people like me.
This is why the American public no longer has any trust in the American institutions, including the CIA.
It's not just the FBI or the AG's office.
The systems in Washington, D.C.
are so rancid.
I don't know what it will take to fix this, because this guy was lying two years ago when he signed that document, and then he was lying yesterday when he spoke to Brett Baier.
I only wish that Brett Baier would have been a little bit more stern in regards to the lack of his veracity.
Agreed.
Agreed.
I think that's an amazing word.
I'm going to use it.
I'm going to give you credit, Ken.
Rancid is the exact adjective we are missing when we discuss The Swamp.
Nicely done.
Let's go to our buddy, Judy in Brooklyn.
Welcome, Judy.
Hi, how are you?
Listen, I want to react to the first, John, who said that President Trump should go forward, not talk about things in the past, blah, blah.
And also Annabelle, who called like a week and a half ago, and she repeated some things that she's frustrated over, which we all know, whatever.
And I thought to myself, she's right.
Let me explain.
I saw a movie, an in movie, one of my Bollywood movies from Shrew Khan, I have to tell you.
There was something that was said, truth shall triumph.
And that jumped out at me.
Truth shall triumph.
We have to speak the truth.
I don't care how sick people are of hearing the truth, but it should be told, because that will triumph.
I don't care.
I want to tell you something.
If Nancy... I think we should repeatedly put the blame on Nancy Pelosi on the lack of security of Janice Schick's capital.
Not anywhere else.
She is responsible, let alone God knows what else she was doing there with all the people there.
But I want to get back to this.
You've got 10 seconds, quickly.
Okay, you need a balance.
Both should be spoken.
The past should be spoken about, you know, cheating and whatever.
And President Trump can actually say all the wonderful things and policies that he actually implemented in the four years that he was president to say that he did it before, he could do it again no matter what.
And truth should be spoken.
I love it.
I love it.
Yes, agreed, agreed, agreed.
The truth shall set you free.
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Uh, I think mine is all in one, but just make sure that yours applies there as well.
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Who asked?
Was it Russ?
I think Russ... Steve, or you stood for Steve Moore.
Hoagie or something?
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Alrighty.
I believe we have her.
Audio, at least.
Hello, hello?
Hello!
Hi!
How you doing?
I am good.
This city council stuff has been... We haven't touched it because I thought it was such a nothing burger, but you're going to explain to us.
No, it's gigantic actually.
It's pretty crazy.
All right, good.
Oh my goodness.
How are you guys?
Good, good, good.
Let me just see.
Yeah, Biden just said they have to resign.
Uh, let me see what else you sent us.
Oh, the other thing I didn't send to you.
Oh, plastic bags!
Yes, okay.
The plastic bags, but actually even better than that, Gavin Newsom is going to fix gas prices by taxing the gas companies in California.
Oh, because they won't pass that on at all.
Right, right.
So that's actually even better.
Crazy.
Is she up on Skype?
Can you call us on Skype?
Can we call on Skype, Mike?
Here comes the call.
I'm in the new position today, guys.
Oh, and look, they put AM 870 behind.
What do you know?
Minute 40.
All righty.
We have you, Jen, on video.
Hi.
Hello.
90 seconds.
Oh, boy.
Long day?
There's a bad word in front of me.
What?
Where did this come from?
I'm in a new position.
I'm at the news desk and it says, real news, period, no, and then BS spelled out.
That's rude!
How woot?
I know, I can't believe it.
It's so spicy.
To quote Jar Jar Binks, how woot?
How woot?
Alright, I got some fun cuts to play you as well.
Everybody's audio okay?
Huh?
My audio's good, yes.
Thank you, Mike.
It's the voice of God.
V-O-G.
40 seconds.
So many cuts we can play for Jen.
30 seconds.
No, but I'm going to tee up 10 immediately.
30 seconds.
The End Dr. G is in the house on America First.
Welcome back!
No, I don't want that thing.
It just screws me up.
I don't want that Seb Gawker thing coming.
My timing is shot.
I feel grumpy for the next hour.
And I've got a lovely guest that I'm going to be less than polite to.
No, I'd never do that!
But before we get to Jennifer Horne, let's show you how you shouldn't talk about the leader of your party.
This is Tim Ryan to CBS.
It's just 12 seconds long and it's delicious.
Cut 11.
You have choices to make in the coming weeks.
Do you want President Biden to come to Ohio and publicly campaign with you in this final lap?
No.
No, I won't be asking the president to come in.
I thought he was the Great Unifier!
Help me out!
She's the host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870.
What happened to the Great Unifier?
He can't even unify his own party, Jennifer Horne!
I don't even think he can spell unifier at this point.
They're like, nope, nothing.
Please send him away.
Cue cards.
They can put him on those little cue cards he dropped in front of Jake Tapper.
Right.
I thought it was actually kind of funny.
He's coming to California.
You know, I'm in California.
And he's coming today, actually.
Sleepy Creepy?
Sleepy Creepy is coming to California, and I thought exactly what you did.
Like, what is he doing here?
What could he possibly be doing?
Well, he's fundraising because the people in Hollywood will throw money at a stump if it's got a D by the last name, if it says Democrat.
But he's going to Oregon, and he's going to campaign with the woman running for governor, which I thought is kind of interesting because that race is really tight, and for the first time in 40 years... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Oregon?
I mean, that's crunchy hippie country, right?
For the first time in 40 years, the Republican is neck and neck with the Democrat in that state.
And there's this woman, and oh my gosh, I'm forgetting her.
Oh, her name is Betsy Johnson, like the clothing designer but much different, who is that independent candidate who has thrown everything kind of up in the air.
And she's caught on.
So I think she's done enough to actually pull votes away from the Democrat.
which is putting that seat in play for Republicans.
So she's actually desperate enough to take Joe Biden.
So he's going to be swinging, I guess, through Oregon at some point over the next few days.
All right.
So I have so many things I want to talk to you.
You've got an amazing story out of California that I thought was an absolute nothing burger.
You have told me it is the finest aged sirloin steak, so we will discuss that in a moment.
But this is a national event that I have to... So this is Mike Lee on Tucker Carlson.
Doing something a man should never do, okay?
Don't beg to Mitt Romney on live television.
Cut 10.
So maybe you don't want to say this, maybe you're not even aware of it, but I believe it is true that members of Mitt Romney's immediate family, his nuclear family, are actively helping McMullin against you.
So is it possible to just call Mitt Romney, whom I know you've known probably your whole life, and say, please?
Like, there's a lot at stake here.
Well, I've asked him, I'm asking him right here again tonight, right now.
Mitt, if you'd like to protect the Republican majority, give us any chance of seizing the Republican majority once again.
Getting it away from the Democrats who are facilitating this massive spending spree in a massive inflationary binge.
Please, get on board.
Help me win re-election.
Please Mittens, please Pierre Delicto.
As a woman, aren't you disgusted?
Where are the alpha males?
Have they all disappeared?
I don't understand.
This guy, Mike Lee has, and I saw this, and it was so creepy to watch him appeal in that way.
At least use a tone of voice saying, Mitt, I don't know what's wrong with you.
How could you possibly be supporting someone that isn't going to cut the spending?
You know, at least come from a place of strength, but literally to get on your hands and knees and beg to Mitt Romney?
Are you kidding?
How the mighty have fallen.
Mike Lee is a serious contender for the Supreme Court, for crying out loud.
Use your best to rationalize, to admit, not beg for his approval.
This seems to be what's happening, though, with a lot of, and I hate to put you men on the spot, but with a lot of men, they don't want to look like angry alpha males, so they're now kind of kowtowing down to the people that they're either looking for something from or their enemies.
It doesn't work.
Is he going to put on a skirt next?
Is that what might be?
Is he going to go trans on us?
I don't know.
Some high heel shoes?
I mean, I do have a pair right here.
I could lend him, I guess.
All right, follow her right now, at Jennifer Horne.
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All right.
I didn't even mention it on the show for the last two days, because I thought, just some racist, typical Democrat caught on a hot mic in Los Angeles.
Turns out this Democrat has already resigned because it's such a big scandal.
Will you walk us through why I was wrong to call this a nothing burger?
So, just a quick recap, and I'll give you a brief recap of what happened.
On the social media platform Reddit, there was an audio cut that came up, like an hour-long piece of audio.
Three members of the Los Angeles City Council, along with the president of the LA County Federation of Labor, so the Labor Union.
Ron Herrera is his name.
And they are caught for an hour talking not only a whole lot of smack about everybody that's not them on the city council, but using really racist terms, including calling one of the city council members' two-year-old son a monkey.
He's a monkey.
He's black.
He's adopted.
This is not okay.
I'm just curious.
Why would you attack the child?
I don't get it.
This is the problem.
And this is just another element of why this is such a gross story is that no one was off limits.
They weren't just talking about people on the city council.
They were talking about their family members.
They went after Armenians.
They went after Jewish people.
They went after Koreans.
They went after indigenous people.
They went after everybody in some of the most horrific ways, calling them like short, dark people, asking what village someone was from.
I mean, really horrific things.
And there's a lot of layers to this story because, of course, Democrats, including these three, Nury Martinez, who's the president of the city council, and all the others, Kevin de Leon, Gil Cedillo, and this labor union president, They're the ones that call Republicans, President Trump racist, right?
All the time.
They fly with that R word, racism.
Well, they're the ones who are truly the racist because guess what?
This is who they really were.
This is who they really are.
They were talking like this while they didn't realize they were being recorded.
So it turns out that the audio gets leaked on Reddit, the LA Times of all places picks it up, starts investigating, runs with the story.
Nuri Martinez, who is the next in line to be mayor, had Garcetti gone somewhere like to India as ambassador, she would have been the next mayor.
And she resigned not from the city council, but from the presidency of the city council.
So yesterday, now also Ron Herrera who is the head of the labor union resigned completely from his post as well, but yesterday was the first city council meeting and said people were outside of this woman's house, Nuria Martinez, they were outside of the city council.
Hundreds of people, people in passion saying enough is enough.
Swampy politics at play.
They didn't like it.
They didn't like the racist remarks.
They swarmed the city council meeting.
So instead of showing up Like the little sniveling rat she is, Nury Martinez, instead of resigning and owning it or showing up and facing the people who are upset with her, she took a leave of absence.
Now, Kevin DeLeon and Gil Cedillo showed up.
They were booed out of the room.
They had to leave the chamber.
And what's interesting is as part of this, so that's the racist piece of it.
But what they were talking about in whole, not just making comments and joking about people, they were actually talking about redistricting these city council districts away from black residents of Los Angeles into the power hand of the Latino branch.
They wanted more Latino heavy districts because they thought it would keep themselves in power.
The labor union guy is there saying, my goal is to keep you three in power.
So what this really shows is that the unions are so involved in the underbelly of Los Angeles politics that they're trying to keep each other and their friends in business and in power and they're trying to weaken everyone else.
And the female Latina victimhood class isn't protecting her?
Not protecting her at all.
In fact, everybody's turned on her and everybody from President Biden down to other members of the city council, Karen Bass, who's a Democrat running for mayor.
Everybody has told her to resign.
Now, she hasn't yet, but there was a really big opportunity last night and it was missed.
Rick Caruso and Karen Bass, who are running for mayor of Los Angeles, had a debate.
And the question that I have is, did Karen Bass collude with these union representatives to get her power?
Now, where was that question?
Rick Caruso said that there's swampy politics in Los Angeles, but he should have asked her point-blank if she's been colluding with these people, because what concerns me, Seb, is that they recorded this at the union president's office.
Now, if they're stupid enough to know that they were recorded, obviously they're not afraid to show who they are, these racist bigots who have no place in city government.
If not, could the union president be getting these people elected and then using tapes like that to blackmail individuals to get what they want done?
Filthy.
I think there's a lot of questions here.
Filthy, filthy business.
I thought it wasn't a big deal, but there you go, we get the ground truth.
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Yes.
One second here.
Show it.
You can unlock.
Take it.
Yeah, look at that.
Nice.
OK.
Yeah, I had to tweet out today that the Democrats' House of Cards is falling.
After that, and then the Majorca story today, I mean, That he knew about the horses, right?
Of course!
These people just gaslight to divide.
Ridiculous.
I forgot that De Leon went onto the city council after his Senate bid.
Yeah, he's a story about a falling star.
He was, remember, had the $50,000 party in L.A.
to celebrate being the first Hispanic president of the Senate, and then... Oh, yeah.
Here he is.
I remember I and every Republican I knew all voted for him in 2018 against Feinstein because, of course, that was right after the Kavanaugh thing.
And one thing I will tell you about him is that we invited him to the studio.
He's the only Democrat that's ever come on the show as a candidate like that.
Interesting.
So plastic bag, oh no, plastic packaging and what else?
The gas prices.
They're going to do windfall taxes.
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Good, good, good, good, good, good.
$6.99 for premium gasoline right now.
Delightful.
I know.
I'm going to play the Ignatius cut for Jen, all right?
Cut 13.
Cut 13, but you'll tee that up.
Yes, I will tee it up!
All right.
Tee it up!
Can you come in with the first cut of the... Survivor.
The Survivor.
And I need some... How long is the campaign, Jeff?
Oh, he is not here at the moment.
He ran away.
He ran away?
He's gone.
Where are we doing the event, physically?
No, I'm talking to Jen.
For Town Hall, you mean?
Possibly next week, Alex says.
Where are we doing the event physically?
On which day?
No, I'm talking to Jen.
Oh, for town hall, you mean?
It's going to be at the place it was last year, the Hyatt in Orange County.
Except this year we will not be waiting for Larry because he won't be running for governor, so that's good.
I don't know if you remember that, but he was like an owl.
Oh, I remember, I remember.
All I know is that I felt like I was making balloon animals with Grant on stage as we were waiting.
You were very good, you were very good.
Balloon animals are fun.
You know what?
They are.
They are a big hit.
They're a bit squeaky though.
Yep, a little squeaky.
And I always get, like, a little anxious that they're going to pop on me.
Yes.
Kind of like when you're cracking open, like, the Pillsbury Crescents and you're just afraid they're going to, like, explode.
Ooh, yes.
That is trepidatious when you're starting to open that tin and you just... And you know it's coming, but yet you're still holding your breath.
And you don't know exactly when it's going to pop.
I know.
I can't stand it.
Trepidatious.
One minute.
Coming in with the first Mighty Oaks cut, so serious music and no liner, Alex.
Yep.
All righty.
Over 1,600 people watching on Rumble.
Welcome, guys.
Interesting.
That's a high, at least for quite a while.
Uh-huh.
- Oh, and I gotta ask you about Tulsi Gabbard, okay?
Oh, yeah.
Hot Ross Pro.
Ah, man.
When I said that to Eric, he just burst out laughing.
He loved it.
That's great, Jen.
A-plus.
That was great.
Grant took my line and used it in one of his Instagram videos yesterday, and I was like, are you kidding me?
I need to get a lawyer.
I used credit, gave you credit on the show, gave you credit on another interview on Newsmax.
That's good.
See, at least you gave me credit.
I did it, Grant.
Look it, I thought of this line about Tulsi Gabbard. - In 2015, I tried to I tried to commit suicide.
I tried to take my own life.
I took a bunch of pills and tried to drive off a cliff.
By 2023, we will have more deaths by suicide than we will post 9-11 combat.
Babe is referring to a report out just this summer that estimates that since 9-11, we've lost more active duty personnel and veterans to suicide than those actually killed in combat.
Three times as many.
It's just wrong.
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Okay, we have to talk about a big news ad of the Democrat Party, but there is There is a cut I need your opinion on first.
There is a scumbag called David Ignatius.
He's a quote-unquote journalist, Jennifer.
The person who illegally revealed the name of Mike Flynn as being one of those unmasked by the Obama administration.
And talking about the war in Ukraine on MSNBC, he had something to say about Joe Biden.
And it just kind of illustrates The ironclad Kevlar encased bubble that the elite lives in.
Cut 13.
General Milley, who's the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who says, quoting a Chinese leader, we are crossing the river, stepping from stone to stone.
Meaning, it's that unstable.
I see.
Each step, we're not just sure what's there.
And I think it's a time when I'm glad that President Biden and people around him are trying to think very carefully.
So this guy's glad that Biden's in charge.
I mean, does anybody who's not mentally incompetent actually believe that?
He is right about one thing.
It is unstable, but he's wrong about the fact that Joe Biden is, oh, thank God he's there.
He's the reason that things are so unstable.
You know, I had Nikki Haley on our program yesterday on the show, a former ambassador to the UN, and she, just like everyone else with just a sense, just a small sense of sanity, says if President Trump were in office, this would have never happened.
The instability that we see around the world is happening Because Joe Biden is leading the strongest country on the planet, and he's running us into the ground.
And I hate saying that to you, Seb, because I want to be optimistic.
I don't care who's sitting in the White House.
I do, obviously.
We do this for a living.
But I root for our country above anything else.
And the fact that we are so incredibly weak right now, and that we've got this guy who sniffs girls' heads and mumbles around and shuffles all over the place.
and doesn't look like he knows if it's Wednesday or if it's, you know, last April.
The guy is all over the place, and it is creating real problems.
This is why Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.
This is why we are being forced to send so much money into Ukraine, because we know if we don't stop it there, he's going to keep going with Joe Biden in the White House.
He's headed to Poland next.
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Are there any tickets left?
Just a few.
This is like our Super Bowl.
And if you are in Southern California, you have to come.
They released a few more tickets, I think, this week.
So there's VIP tickets available and I think a few more general admission.
But you've got to get them.
Get them now because it will sell out.
And the VIP opportunities are incredible.
You know we always kind of get stationed next to each other, which I love.
I think they do it because they know we have fun together.
We like each other.
Yeah, and so you can come do selfies, you can get books signed.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
A lot of FaceTime and opportunity.
What is this Super Bowl thing you talk of?
Is that a sports thing?
That's called football.
American football.
You mean like fake rugby?
Like soccer with a real ball.
Fake rugby.
Okay.
What is the station website?
It's AM870TheAnswer.com.
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Nice.
Okay, I gotta ask you, because I kind of played her big announcement that she's leaving the Democrat Party.
I don't like Tulsi Gabbard, especially because of what she said when I was in the White House about Assad, Syria, and, no, those aren't chemical weapons, that's a false flag operation.
Is this a big deal?
I used you, I credited you on Monday, I said, On Tuesday, you said this could be the hot version of Ross Perot.
Anything more significant than that?
I really don't think so.
Look, I think there is room to have a discussion about a third party in politics in this country.
I just don't think it's going to happen right now overnight.
You've got Republicans who are either going to gather around Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis on our side of the aisle.
We have Democrats who won't touch Tulsi Gabbard because she now denounced the party and came out.
So you're talking about a really small audience that she's appealing to.
Now, I think she has more appeal than Liz Cheney at this point.
She has some... She has some sane...
Policy items that she talks about, but then she kind of goes off the proverbial reservation every once in a while.
So I think that's why I kind of equate her to a hot version of Ross Bros.
She'll have a dedicated following, but it won't be enough, I don't think, to make any real political waves.
More appeal than Liz Cheney.
I think a dead fish has more appeal than Liz Cheney.
Exactly right.
All right.
Latest insanity coming from Nancy's nephew, Gruesome Newsome, about oil and gas in California.
So we're paying, I want you to know, as I drove in today, $6.99 a gallon for premium, but $6.79 for regular gasoline right now in California.
It's ridiculous.
You need to mortgage your house.
And we all drive places, right?
Nobody lives close to where they work in Los Angeles.
So it's expensive.
So Gavin Newsom himself already acknowledged that environmental regulations are what is actually costing us money at the pump in California because he has now released the winter blend of gasoline.
Did you know we have two blends?
It's like tea in California.
There's the summer blend, which has to fit all of these environmental regulations, and then the winter blend that comes out.
He released it early to try to lower gas prices.
Alright, so that's going on.
Instead of putting a moratorium on the gas tax, he's sending refund checks to everybody regardless of whether or not they own a car or drive, just based on their income.
So that's coming, you guessed it, this week, the same week that mail-in ballots were released.
Checks from Gavin Newsom arriving in your mailbox.
But this may be the piece de resistance, and that is that in an effort to try to lower gas prices for California, he's calling a special session of the state legislature in December, and he is going to get these oil executives in, and he's going to announce a windfall tax.
This is how the Democrat Party thinks.
They think that they can punish oil companies and that that is somehow going to treat us favorably.
And the oil companies won't pass the tax on to the customers.
I mean, are these people just imbeciles, Jen?
Yes.
I'm no Stephen Moore.
I'm no economist here, but I can tell you if you raise the price of doing business on oil companies, that is going to come back to us.
They're not just going to accept it as a penalty.
They're going to pass it on to the rest of us.
It's unbelievable that they think instead of just drilling and lightening up restrictions, that would provide us with instant relief.
They will not do it.
So, so utterly stupid.
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They will be happy with that.
Is it looking good in terms of ticket numbers?
The ticket numbers are starting to pick up.
You know, it's been weird.
Ever since COVID, people wait to the last minute to buy tickets.
Because I think they're afraid everything's going to get cancelled.
So this week, I think, has been really good so far.
Yeah, it should be fun.
Let's talk it up on Tuesday.
Absolutely.
We'll mention it again.
Good.
All right, guys.
We'll have a great rest of the week.
Bye.
Thanks, Jen.
Bye.
Okay, title for that one.
Want to hang up the Skype, Jeff?
Thank you.
I think Mighty X is done this week.
It's not on the calendar for Monday.
OK.
Yeah, he was asking about that.
Yeah, so this Friday.
OK.
Uh, what shall we call it?
Oh, actually, I want to move this a little bit.
The city council thing was probably the big one, I guess.
Um... Um... Right, so how to title it?
Um... Democrat Racism Strikes Again in L.A.
or something like that.
Oh, um...
Um, running from her racism and then colon her name.
Nury Martinez.
Yeah.
Uh, will you book David Sokol, Jeff?
Yeah.
I've been getting that too.
I was going to ask you.
Okay.
Okay.
two minutes you've got to play me cut 15 again Cut 15.
Go ahead.
I was doing meet the press and lightning struck a little pond behind my house, came up through the ground into the air conditioning system, ended up generating thick black smoke, literally that of those proportions, and from the basement to the third floor, the attic,
Everything was ruined and the kitchen floor, we almost lost a couple firefighters they tell me, because the kitchen floor was the burning between beams in the house in addition to almost collapsed into the basement.
What is he babbling about?
Smoke of this proportion?
How can smoke have a proportion?
The report on it, it said a small kitchen fire.
Right, I remember.
Yeah, small kitchen fire, but two firefighters almost died.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, uh... No, he's next one.
He's next one.
This is C. C's off.
C's calls.
Uh, give me 14.
14.
Real quick, take it.
We did find that in small talk before the interview without captioning.
It seemed it was difficult for Fetterman to understand our conversation.
Gotta give it to Oz.
He's really...
They're all talking about it today, the media.
They're either setting up the expectation that debates are gonna be bad or he's gonna cancel it.
Will you ask Oz back on?
Yeah.
Oh, and ask President Trump.
Will you put in a request to Marty?
Yes.
Not coming in with anything?
Uh, what are we doing here?
This is C. C.
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How do you say that?
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Waiting very patiently in that Disneyland for grown-ups.
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Las Vegas!
Sherry, welcome!
Hey Dr. G, so glad that I waited.
I hope you guys are having a blessed day.
And first thing I wanted to know is, do you think when President Trump gets elected that he is going to clean house some of the top officials and like the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, so that America can have trust in federal law enforcement again?
Yes.
Yes, period.
Okay.
I mean, think about it.
I mean, think about it.
Think about the news we got last night.
The FBI offered a British disgraced spy a million dollars for smear lies for opposition research just before the election.
Of course he's gonna come in like a berserker.
I just hope he goes like a bull in a china shop and just like, like, you know, like, like the dog catchers with the little thing to get the dog.
You, you, you, you, you, you, out.
Out, out, out, out.
And also- Hey, that's insulting dogs.
Okay?
Do not call corrupt FBI agents dogs, okay?
No.
Well, you know.
Carry on.
I can't help it.
I'm a patriot, I'm an Air Force veteran, and I'm retired law enforcement.
So love you out here.
Where did you serve?
Where were you a Leo?
Las Vegas, Nevada.
Las Vegas Metro Police.
That must have been a pretty funky beat.
You know what?
It was a good time.
It was a good time.
I didn't see it all and do it all, but I saw some stuff and did some stuff.
All right, stay on the line.
We love hearing you, and thank you for your patience.
Let's give Sherry a signed copy of Why We Fight, because she's a Leo.
Law enforcement, prior service.
She's also very, very diligent, very patient, and I like her voice, too.
Let's get a mic in Detroit, line one.
Welcome, Mike.
Oh yeah, Dr. Corker.
Yeah, I just, you know, what you were talking about earlier was there's no coincidence that Putin made his moves on Crimea and Ukraine when there was a democratic administration.
I mean, he sees the weakness in our nation, which is incredible, incredible.
The Democratic Party is treasonous, seditious, criminally corrupt, politically corrupt, and personally corrupt.
The evidence is overwhelming.
And here they are poking the bear.
You know, you talk about climate change.
Putin could change the climate of this planet in a heartbeat, you know.
And this is just so irresponsible and so on.
He probably has a personal animus towards this country at this point because they demonized and dehumanized him so much.
The Democrats did to demonize and dehumanize President Trump.
And over half the country, you know, it's just the height of irresponsibility.
Well, it goes far.
I mean, yes, I'm sure he hates the Democrats for the way that they spoke about him, but it goes far, far further back than that.
He hates America in general.
Don't forget, Mike, that this is the KGB colonel, the third, fourth tier failed KGB colonel who was sent to East Germany during the Cold War, who publicly, after he became president of the Russian Federation, stated that the greatest geopolitical tragedy, and he used the stated that the greatest geopolitical tragedy, and he used the word tragedy, of the 20th century was the loss of the Soviet Union, the regime that killed literally millions of its own citizens, eight million Ukrainians alone.
That dictatorial regime's death was deemed by him to be the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century.
And we made it happen.
Ronald Reagan made it happen along with Margaret Thatcher and blessed Saint John Paul II.
So yeah, he hates America and that's why we have to take him seriously and not be afraid of him like Biden is.
Thank you for your call Mike.
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Professor Brat, this segment.
Two and a half minutes.
Alright, so here... Yeah, it's D. I'm gonna use cut one again.
We have him.
We can let him know the mics are live on a rumble this time.
Don't.
Thank you.
Professor Bratt, can you hear us?
I can hear you!
Wonderful.
We can hear you.
I'm going to cut one and then maybe cut nine in the second block.
All righty.
Hang on one minute, though, because I'm going to plug in a better earphones right now, and I want to make sure I can still hear you and you can hear me.
Here we go.
Yes, how are we now?
Same.
Good.
OK, good.
it's getting situated awesome all right a minute 20 seconds that's good okay Come back.
Good.
That's it.
That's it.
Don't move.
That's it.
What are we talking about?
We're going to talk about The Biden interview that we're not in a recession.
Do you have an opinion about Credit Suisse and the trouble they're in?
Not specifically, but I can guess.
Okay.
And then... Liquidity?
Is it just liquidity?
Yeah.
Well, they've lost like 50% of their market value and they're basically going to have to be bought out or collapse.
So this could be the Bear Stearns of Europe.
Right.
Yeah.
Good.
Standby.
You said come in with cut one or you'll tee it up?
I'll tee it up.
All righty.
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That's why we have to check in with the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, former Virginia Congressman Dave Brandt.
Welcome back to America First.
Thanks back, brother.
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Absolutely.
I'm glad you concur.
All right.
I'm going to ruin the mood instantly.
This very, very, very peculiar interview with Jake Tapper and Biden, where he's stumbling over his words, dropping his cue cards, Tapper's picking them up like an intern, and then a redefinition of what recession means.
Listen to Joe Biden.
Cut one.
There's no guarantee that there's going to be a recession.
I don't think there will be a recession.
If it is, it'll be a very slight recession.
That is, we'll move down slightly.
Look, think about what's happened.
We have done more, we're in a better position than any other major country in the world, economically and politically.
We are we still have real problems.
But look, look, look, look, look, we got done.
We passed so much legislation that significantly makes it makes a point about, you know, for example, the American Rescue Plan, the legislation to deal with inflation, the Inflation Act.
We moved along.
I mean, there's so much that's been accomplished that the idea that there is something, there's an automaticity to recession is just not is just not there.
They keep they've been predicting this off and on for the last.
But you just said that a slight recession is possible.
It is possible.
Look, it's possible.
I don't anticipate it.
I'm not a dean of any business school anywhere, but am I wrong, or is the fact that we've been in two quarters of negative growth, doesn't that mean, Professor Bratt, that we are in a recession?
Yeah, well, I think you qualify in the dean sphere.
I call Bannon the Don of Oxford, so I'll make you the honorary Don of Cambridge, you know, so you're on equivalent footing.
I'll be a visiting fellow.
How's that?
I love the visiting fellow.
Good, you're appointed.
Yeah, no, it's just, and I don't even call these, you know, partisan or political, anything anymore.
It's just the globalists implanted people on both sides of the aisle.
They've been winning.
They're now losing.
They've created just Armageddon almost literally.
That was his remarks last week.
Financially, economically, culturally, religiously, financially, spiritually, every which way.
It's not just economic.
The American people across the spectrum, I think, are going to revolt coming up in a month and have their say on it.
And so, yeah, the recession, Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan, these guys are always cheerleaders.
When you have the cheerleaders acknowledging you're past a recession, I didn't even get to play the cut yesterday.
It was on my cut sheet and I didn't get to it.
But Jamie Dimon said we could have a collapse that's even more than 20% imminently.
Yep, yep.
That was on MSNBC and they didn't even, not a follow-up question, took to maybe the most significant comment just because it represents from an elite reality that's gonna happen.
And if that reality does happen, right, it's like you were mentioning, right, the Bear Stearns moment, the Lehman moment.
That's what we're waiting for, right?
We had it a week ago in England, right, with the sovereign crisis.
Well, and then the Bank of England went in there and just saved the economy at the last second.
Yeah.
Yeah, so they saved it, right?
And we can save it again.
And this time the Fed's holding tough, though.
And I think they really are going to, right?
Because when you do the interest payment calculations on 5% on $31 trillion, it stops the spending agenda immediately dead in its tracks.
And so they all know that.
And so it's not like they're being saints, finally.
And then they gave Bernanke the Nobel Prize just to poke everyone.
In the universe in the I this week.
It's just staggering.
You know, the, the, the causal agent of the oh, 708 financial crisis.
And it's the globalist, elitist establishment rewards and says, if you go to this length to protect us, we will give you the Nobel Prize in economics.
If you're that courageous in the face of the creation of the 07-08 crisis and the everything bubble to still go on TV as a Princeton economist who does have a brain and his paper on the global savings flat was brilliant, it was good.
But, sorry, when it came to be show time and leadership time, AWOL.
Yeah, I remember, I'm sure you do, I think we're over the same vintage.
I remember when the Nobel Peace Prize was actually, or the Nobel Prize in any sector, was a big deal, Dave!
Yes, yes.
Yes, well, it's back when the Swedes were religious.
One-to-one correlation between the religious sentiment that originated all these august, serious prizes, which are prizes that symbolize real, meaningful things, versus now, it's as simple as the Kardashian show.
Yeah, no, it's worshiping the climate.
That's what will get you a Nobel Prize.
But, but with the recent success of the Christian Democrats, maybe things are turning the corner in Sweden as well.
We're going to continue our discussion with the Dean of the Business School at Liberty.
It's liberty.edu and brateconomics.com.
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Why aren't the Keynesians just dead?
Why are they like zombies?
Why does Keynesianism come back 40 years later, Dave?
Yeah, well, they've just structurally divided the economy into spending components.
And the spending fanatics from our own side of the House and Senate to the Uniparty on the Dem side love the spending components.
And so it makes perfect sense.
Insanity.
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Good.
I thought I was on.
Good.
No, you are on.
You're on in the breaks.
You're on in the breaks on Rumble, but I was just, I had to ask that question.
It's like, I ask that question every time for, you know, Stephen Moore, like, we killed these bastards.
We killed this vampire in 1980.
No, it's the accounting.
The C plus I plus G plus net export.
That's Keynesian.
I mean, once you're doing top-down accounting from the heights, they own the length.
The commanding heights, right?
Yeah, they own the length.
You gotta break the whole thing up.
But how do you?
Where do you begin?
Yeah, man, there was a good conversation.
I'll text it to you if I find it.
Between Yoron, you know the Randian Yoron.
What's his name?
Brooke.
Yoron Brooke.
Yeah, it was good.
It was good.
Stand by.
Send it to me.
Send it to me.
Yeah, it was good.
It was good.
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Cut nine.
Play cut.
Look what I've gotten done.
Name me a president in recent history that's gotten as much done as I have in the first two years.
Not a joke.
You may not like what I got done, but the vast majority of the American people do like what I got done.
And so I just, it's a matter of, can you do the job?
And I believe I can do the job.
I've been able to do the job.
I've gotten more done.
I got the inflation reduction.
I got all these pieces of legislation passed.
And I ran on that.
I said this is what I was going to do.
Most Americans think that what he's done is great.
What's the economic response to that, Dean Bratt?
The economic response is that we had real wages going up under the Trump administration for high school graduates for the first time in 40 years.
Wages have been going down for 40 years.
Productivity's been going down for 40 years.
We had an emphasis with Peter Navarro, the economist in the Trump administration, who focused finally, rightly, on readjusting the structure of our economy, bringing jobs back, building up manufacturing, redoing supply chains, penalizing China for their absolute corrupt totalitarian practices.
And that was the way forward, and it was beginning to work.
Now it's working again on steroids against the wishes of the globalists.
The global empire is done, by the way, right?
It's cooked.
So they're on their last gasps, if you want to end on some good news.
So these syrupy... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
We've got literally 20 seconds left.
The globalists are on their last breath.
Are you serious, Dave?
Oh yeah, yeah.
China doesn't have a consumer class to consume their stuff.
Wow.
And it's toast.
It's toast.
All right, all right.
We need to have an hour-long discussion with him.
That is a story I need to dissect with the Dean of the Business School.
Follow him, liberty.edu.
Also, brateconomics.com.
Next up, for a whole hour, we're going to have Joe DeGeneva, Victoria Taunsing, the FBI bounty.
unbelievable.
Thank you, Dave.
Hey, thank you, Brian.
That's good.
Get me on any time you want.
Have you written that up?
The death of globalism.
Have you written anything on that?
No, but I got it all.
Boom, boom, boom.
Good.
Let's do it.
That's very cool.
Let's do that.
Yep.
Z-Han.
Peter Z-Han.
Do you like him?
I think he's a bit of a snake oil.
Do you like him?
Yeah.
Well, no, but he's got Democrat propensity, so he's very helpful to our side.
It's not political.
And he hates Trump.
Yeah.
I don't, I know he's terrible on politics, but he says they're done this decade as a, as a, as a nation state.
They will not, the CCP will not be in existence just due to demographics and, uh, what's his other one and whatever.
Resources, no?
Yeah.
And that's, yeah, that's a huge, he does two pieces, but yeah, I think that's it.
And then all the other news coming in.
They're still powerful enough to be very dangerous.
They'll restructure.
Are you coming to DC anytime in the future?
Yeah, I will be.
Probably in a couple of weeks or so.
I'll make my way up there.
All right.
All right.
Good.
All right.
Talk to you soon, buddy.
Good.
All right.
See you, Zeb.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Oh, Eric.
Yes.
I didn't realize this is one of the stories that you wrote.
The State Department one.
You discuss that on air tomorrow, right?
I'm gone tomorrow.
Oh, tomorrow, of course.
I'll text you on the plane.
And you will Skype in from the plane.
It might be a little bit bumpy.
The reception may be a little bit questionable.
I don't care as long as I get to annoy the people sitting next to me.
Yes!
You can have him text me his answers and I can pretend to care.
John can pretend to be me.
Should we do Brett next week for Newsmax if he's on the death of globalism?
Because that's big.
Yeah, that is big.
Print a photograph of Eric and hold it on a stick in front of your face, John.
Yes, I'm Eric.
Yeah, that's really good.
Do that.
Do that.
Let's do that.
All right.
Welcome, dear friends.
You're listening to America First, one-on-one with, I think they're probably your favorite dynamic duo in-studio guests, Warriors for the Truth.
They know the intimate, dark corners of the swamp and where the swamp creatures are that need to be slain.
It is none other than Joe DeGenoa, former U.S.
Attorney for the District of Columbia, and his muse, Victoria Tansing, formerly of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Welcome both to America First.
Great to be here.
Really great to be here.
Quite a week.
I'm not sure if it's a good week in terms of the things that are leaking out into the press.
Let's talk first about the Danchenko trial that is being started in Virginia, Alexandria.
The reports from the Wall Street Journal this weekend are that John Durham is winding down the investigation.
If he is winding down, should we be satisfied with the indictments he's brought, Joe?
No.
No, if he is winding down, and I assume this is a strategic leak that he is, we should be disappointed.
Because what we end up with, with the Sussman case and the Danchenko case, Is an example of Durham being an institutionalist, not wanting to take on the FBI and the DOJ, making the cases where the FBI was quote-unquote lied to, when in fact the FBI knew it was being lied to, and used that fallacious information to continue illegal FISA search listing warrants.
So I think Well, I think Durham is a good man.
I think he is a failed institutionalist.
I feel very badly about this, because he would not take on the corruption of senior FBI and DOJ officials.
So I consider his mission a failure.
See, Seb, when Joe and I looked at these indictments, we said, why is the FBI a victim?
This is the point, that all the people who are being indicted are people who aren't part of the machinery.
Right.
Precisely.
Yeah.
I mean, they were part of the plot, for God's sake.
And so they're making them out to be the poor little, you know, pathetic victims.
But then there's another issue here, and the key words that you said in introing this subject was, the trial's going to take place in Virginia.
My God.
And what Durham should have done is had the other two trials.
Find a venue in Virginia.
Well, Virginia isn't that much better from D.C.
I mean, if you look at Democrat voting.
It's purple.
It used to be red.
It's purple now and probably blue in most areas.
But D.C.
94% vote for Biden in the last election.
How can any Republican have a fair trial?
I've had clients who have said that the FBI said to me, you better plead guilty or you're going to go to trial in D.C.
How do you think that's going to work?
Now, this individual, however, who was what?
He was the... Igor Danchenko?
No, no, no.
The John Durham.
He was the Connecticut... U.S.
Attorney.
U.S.
Attorney, Connecticut.
Right.
I mean, he has a reputation for putting crooked cops away.
I mean, even FBI agents.
He did Boston, which was a very corrupt office.
He did Boston, right.
They had one of the... That's the Whitey Bolger case.
Whitey Bolger case.
And I'm, again...
I'm not mad at John Durham.
He has a great career.
He's a decent guy.
But he failed because he was an institutionalist.
This was the quintessential case of high-level corruption in the FBI and the DOJ, and he didn't do it.
And I mean, I'm sure he has his reasons.
Maybe he'll write a book.
But to me, He's supposed to write a report, Joe.
He's supposed to write a report.
I don't know what the report's going to be like and what Merrick Garland is going to allow to be published, because just because John Durham writes a report doesn't mean Merrick Garland is going to allow it to be published.
Given Merrick Garland's track record, I think he'll suppress most of it.
Oh my goodness, do you remember when Bill Barr just redacted a few words in the report?
And the Democrats went... But what's... I'm curious, and maybe this is too intricate a question, if he's an independent counsel, Do the same regulations apply to him?
Doesn't he have a certain latitude of quasi-independence from the DOJ?
No.
What can the DOJ say?
I need to see the whole manuscript right now.
No, well, they have to.
He reports to the Attorney General.
And so, while he has independence for the investigation, the report is a different animal.
In the old days, like when I was an independent counsel, I wrote my report.
I published it.
I didn't ask anybody's permission, including the D.C.
Circuit.
I just published it.
And that's changed?
Yes, because that was a law.
And under the law, I was completely independent.
No supervision from the Department of Justice.
I issued my own report.
But hang on, hang on.
Doesn't the word independent mean that?
Yes, but unfortunately, it's only a regulation of the Department of Justice.
But this new one is a special counsel.
It's not an independent counsel.
The new one under the regulations, after the independent counsel law died, because Democrats had also been affected by it, became a special counsel.
I don't want to forget the thread, and I want to stay on the question of what happens if he really does close down the investigation.
But having been an independent counsel, I've got to ask you, because I have a certain attitude to this, but I'm not legally trained.
But, you know, I've worked in the White House.
Thank you.
But you say murder better than anybody I know.
I can do a Scottish murder!
He was murdered as well, if you want.
The whole office, or the instrument that is the special counsel or independent counsel Special counsel.
Special counsel.
Has become...
Dangerous.
It has become this, you know, if I look at the Mueller probe, if I look at prior probes, they didn't do what you did, which you did your job honestly, you sat down the report, and it was over.
These seem to be unguided missiles that are launched and nobody knows where they're going to land.
Well, you see, the Mueller Special Counsel investigation was a fraud.
Bob Mueller was a figurehead.
He had nothing to do with that investigation.
Andrew Weissman ran it.
It was a political hit job designed to try and destroy Donald Trump.
It was a cover-up.
It was never intended to find out the illegal activity of anybody.
In fact, they covered up the illegal activity of the FBI and senior DOJ officials because Weissman used to be the counsel to the FBI when Bob Mueller was the FBI director.
So any hope that the Mueller investigation was going to be fair and independent was ludicrous.
But they were also out to get Trump.
By the way, I mean, the bottom line for Jim Jordan and the Republicans who are going to take over the House is very simple.
Their job is to defund the FBI.
We'll get to the FBI and what has to happen to the FBI, but let's stay here on Jordan and the House.
So we are 28 days from an election.
Say the Republicans take the House and hopefully the Senate as well.
What happens next with the whole Russia hoax thing?
Can you spell subpoena?
Well, yes, but isn't there the statute of limitations when it comes to potential criminal charges?
Here's the English shorthand.
Oh, do we have to, here's the English shorthand.
Do we have to settle for just reports from committees?
That's unfortunately where we are, because when Donald Trump didn't get reelected, Bill Barr didn't get a chance to finish the job of cleaning a house at DOJ.
He wasn't serious about it.
Well, you may be right about that.
I don't know.
I haven't made up my mind about that yet.
But the most important thing is we lost valuable time because four years of Biden is four years gone from the statute of limitations.
It's going to be extremely difficult to prosecute anybody for the stuff that was in 2016 in 2024, which is eight years later, because the conspiracy was formed in 2016, right after that election.
But in conspiracy law, if there's a cover of an attempt later, like three years later, to cover it up, that Well, it reignites the statute of limitation.
It continues it.
It starts again.
It could be that you could investigate it, but it's going to be extremely difficult given the time frame.
But that doesn't mean, but first you got to win the presidency in 2024.
And then you have to get a tough Attorney General, which Donald Trump did not do.
You've worked on Capitol Hill.
You've worked for the Senate.
What is The weight of any of these potential investigations, can they be serious efforts at the truth, or will they be mired in what we've witnessed for the last six years?
Well, first of all, I have never really seen a Senate hearing or a House hearing where they've been very effective.
And here's one of the reasons.
Because they give each member five minutes, and then you've got a Republican five minutes, and then a Democrat five minutes, and the Republicans are really bad at this because they don't coordinate.
Now if you watch Democrats during the hearing, they will repeat the same word over and over again, Afghanistan, Afghanistan.
Each one will say the word.
But Republicans are not so organized.
And so you have one Republican start on a subject and then the one that comes after him or her doesn't follow up at all because he or she has their own agenda.
So it's really not, not great.
So what you're saying is if they were coordinated, it could be a serious endeavor.
Yes, of course.
Now, Joe and I did an investigation like that for the house of the Teamsters, way back.
And it was a very successful investigation.
Because guess what?
You are a brave couple investigating the Teamsters.
And it led to indictments of the then head of the Teamsters Union, Ron Carey.
So, these things can be successful.
But, we got to question.
I got, we got 10-15 minutes apiece.
Then the members got to do their thing, but we got You have to allow council questioning.
We'll talk about a potential special committee that could be created after the midterms.
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Let's start with you, Victoria.
Again, Wall Street Journal.
Prosecutors hold off Final Hunter Biden case decision amid talks with defense lawyers.
He could titter away in the background.
And he will.
Well, they're a day late and a dollar short.
They're a day late because... This has been investigated for what, four years?
Yeah, almost four years.
Four years!
2018.
And this is the low-hanging fruit.
A first-year prosecutor could have brought a false statement.
Did he lie on the ATF gun purchase form about being a prior drug user?
Yes.
That didn't take me four years!
Should I be working for the DOJ?
Even taxes!
Even taxes!
And not only that, the tax case is a no-brainer.
That's a one-year case.
Tops.
Tops.
That's 2019.
All of this should have been over.
Plus, they didn't touch that foreign agent's registration.
So tell me the inside.
Farrah and money laundering.
Hang on a second.
Before we get to Farrah.
What is the mechanics of this?
That you've got two slam dunks.
Does somebody at the DOJ say, Talk about Delaware, Joe.
Yes.
Where Joe grew up.
What would they do?
Here's what happened.
When David Weiss, who was a Trump U.S. attorney, was appointed in Delaware.
Which is controlled by the Bidens.
You have to remember, Delaware is a small southern state.
Where Joe grew up.
Tiniest state in the Union.
Oh, okay.
I was born and raised in Delaware, in Wilmington.
Joe Biden and I were high school guys together.
I knew him from the time he was a high school guy.
But here's the thing.
Everybody in that town knows everybody else's business.
David Weiss wants to have lunch in that town.
I heard you use this phrase.
If he wants to have lunch in that town again, there's no way he's going after Biden.
He most certainly is not going after Joe Biden.
Hunter Biden case is a way for them to say, look, we did everything we had to do.
It was done properly.
But what about the father?
What about the violation of the conflict of interest laws?
The kickbacks while he was vice president?
The use of Air Force 2?
The shakedown of foreign governments?
Ukraine?
Russia?
Uzbekistan?
Romania?
They're not going to do any of that?
Are you kidding me?
This is in the case of a cheap prize fighter who took 500 bucks and took a dive.
David Weiss is never going to bring anything else but the tax and gun case because he wants to be able to get a job in private practice when he leaves the U.S.
Attorney's Office.
And some commentators naively say, oh, well, this shows that the Justice Department can go after a Biden as well as a Trump.
And I say, let me see this.
Are they going to charge Biden, the president's brother?
At this balance scale where you've got all kinds of lawyers, Republican lawyers, being search warranted, including me, where you've got a member of Congress have a search warrant after him, where you have Peter Navarro being arrested for a misdemeanor.
I mean, there is no balance to that whatsoever.
Hunter Biden will be allowed to surrender peaceably.
He will not be arrested.
There will be no search warrant of his home.
He won't be leg shackled?
There will be no shackles, there will be no handcuffs, there will be no embarrassing arrests.
And he'll get a good plea deal.
And they will say in the plea deal, we promise not to prosecute you for anything else that happens up to this very day.
So, as a Delawarean who used to hang out on the basketball court with hairy-legged Biden... With a bunch of Puerto Ricans, with me.
Was Corn Pop there?
Was Corn Pop the bad dude there?
Never saw Corn Pop?
Never saw a single Puerto Rican in Delaware, let alone... Hang on!
You weren't surrounded by Puerto... But Joe said he grew up around... There were Puerto Ricans everywhere.
But I, for one, never met or saw one Puerto Rican my entire life in Delaware.
And he grew up in the Catholic Church, so there would have been Puerto Ricans at the Catholic Church.
So as a Delawarean who has had a thing or two to do with the Department of Justice, I'm just curious, and maybe it's a churlish question, what are the mechanics?
How do you slow roll?
Oh.
For four years?
What is the deal?
Hey guys, can you just make sure that paper stays on your desk for the next eight months?
A, a small office, so you have very little interest in the outside world.
You have a local, corrupt newspaper and media, which are all Democratic.
It's a democratically controlled state, run by the Bidens.
That's number one.
Number two, the U.S.
Attorney is the big dog.
He controls everything, so what he says is law.
And he's working with agents out of Baltimore, FBI agents out of Baltimore.
The Justice Department is happy to leave him alone because they know he's going to do their bidding and have this happen.
And so what you do is, with the national media giving you a pass, you basically bury this case.
This was easy to do when you have a complicit media and a corrupt Justice Department.
And if Merrick Garland had really been an honest Attorney General, he would have appointed a special counsel.
This is where a special counsel was needed, because the requirement is, if the Attorney General has a conflict, can you find a better, bigger conflict than the son of the President who appointed you?
Absolutely.
This is easy to do when you have the confluence of all of these events, and the most important being a corrupt DOJ and a corrupt mainstream media.
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A former 1811 Secret Service law enforcement officer, former NYPD, both said the FBI has to be dismantled.
Do you concur?
If so, what happens to its missions?
And what do we begin, in the lame duck two years of this senile old man in the White House, what can the good guys do on Capitol Hill?
They have to deny funding for various categories inside the FBI, and the Republicans have the power to do this, and they have to be strong, they have to resist, this is, oh you're against law enforcement, no.
Because they will immediately be called pro-crime.
Right, right.
And they have to be able to...
They fund the police, kind of thing.
And one of the easiest things they can do is stop the FBI from building a new headquarters.
The site selection is now underway.
The FBI is seeking advanced funding for site selection.
The Republicans should refuse to fund any FBI site selection for a new headquarters until the reforms are put in place.
That has to be done.
They must not be allowed to build any more facilities.
They have to stop funding.
But they can't dismantle the whole thing.
There are really good agents.
The agents who came to our house kept apologizing.
We don't want to be here.
We're so sorry.
So here's my response to that, and it's easy for me to talk, but I would hope that if I'm the agent who's been given the warrant to search Victoria Tunsing's house, I would have said to the ASAC, I would have said to the Senior Supervisory Special Agent, sorry sir, here's my badge and my gun, I'm not doing it.
I'm not becoming a political police officer for Joe Biden, which is what they were doing in your house!
Well, they don't know the background.
They didn't know that it was false.
They know who you are.
Why are they apologizing to you if they don't know who you are?
I don't know why they're apologizing, but I can tell you the agents that took down Papadopoulos at the airport when he landed and expected to fine $10,000 on him and didn't.
He was set up, but he was smart enough to leave it in Greece.
He was smart enough to leave it with his lawyer, right?
In Greece.
Those guys should have known immediately something was wrong because they're calling back to headquarters saying, well what can we charge him with now?
Those guys... What are we going to arrest him for?
Well that's Levante Beria, show me the man fighting the crime!
That is exactly what it is.
Very Soviet.
Should find out exactly who every one of those agents are, and every one of those should be called up.
I mean, those kinds of things have to be pointed out.
This is my issue with the Bureau.
If the organization you work for, you know, is corrupt, you don't keep working for the organization.
The fact that we've got, what, 33,000 agents, SOS and IA, intelligence analysts, and we've got 31 whistleblowers out of 30,000.
The math doesn't gel there for me, Joe.
No, I think the agency is really at a very, it's a grotesque situation.
They've lost all trust.
And here's the horrible situation where you have an FBI director who is so tone deaf and so worried about his future That he simply ignores the corruption, won't do anything about it, he goes up on Capitol Hill, he gives inane testimony.
He may be the brightest guy in the world but he sure looks stupid as hell when he testifies.
The next president has to fire him immediately if it is a Republican.
And again, the Republicans have to defund the Bureau in certain key functions.
They must not allow the construction of a new headquarters.
And they have to keep having the FBI director there under oath, under subpoena.
None of this you're invited to testify.
They need to issue subpoenas immediately to all key people at the FBI for testimony.
All right, we are talking to Georgia General Victoria Tunsig.
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So somebody you probably know, an individual, a troublemaker who goes by the name of Matt Gates, invited me to the members' dining room two weeks ago just to put the cat amongst the pigeons of the Democrats, asked for my advice on...
Well, I think special committees are fine.
I would keep them relatively small.
They don't have to be big.
subpoenas have to be issued the director ray has to be sworn in and testify where do you stand on this question of special commissions vice using judiciary to look into corruption i think special committees are fine i would keep them relatively small they don't have to be big keep them small Yes.
Give them subpoena power.
Make sure that the enabling resolution that passes the House gives them all the authority that they need.
Make sure that there are twice as many Republicans as Democrats on the committee, because that's what the Democrats did.
Yes.
They didn't play fair, so there's no reason to play fair with them.
And the speaker gets to choose every member of the House.
Like Pelosi did.
And the other thing is that they must, again I can't emphasize this, they have to issue subpoenas.
None of this request to testify stuff.
Subpoenas from day one.
Victoria, are you on the side of a special committee?
Of course.
I'm with my hubby here.
But the rules I was talking about earlier, they have to bring in counsel for this committee and give counsel the ability to do the questioning.
So staffers.
I mean, that's why Matt's... Well, not staffers, because you better get an outside lawyer who knows how to do this.
Bring them in.
There's tons of people that want to do this.
But change the rules and don't have this five-minute Yeah, they can't have that type of stupid question.
I mean, they can do that when it's all over, when the lawyers are through.
They must immediately remove people from certain committees, Democrats, like Adam Schiff and the other guy from California.
Kinzinger?
No, well, Kinzinger's gone.
Oh, oh, Jay Nadler, the Wadler.
No, no, the guy, I can't remember his name, that horrible congressman that's headed the affair with the Chinese spy.
Oh, oh, oh, Swalwell.
Swalwell, those should be, they should be eliminated from all committees that have national security information.
Defense, armed services, foreign affairs, and judiciary, and intelligence.
You mean people who can't deny that they've had sex with Chinese intelligence officers shouldn't be on the intelligence committee, Joe?
What a hater you are!
Speaker McCarthy should deny them access to any committee that has national security information.
But the test is, will they have the balls to do it?
Well, yeah, I'm not holding my breath on that one.
But when it comes to intelligence activities, Jim Jordan just floated this idea that the FISA, the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court that is allowed to surveil U.S.
citizens, that authorization should not be re-upped.
Your reaction?
I agree with that.
I'm sad to say that it has been abused so horribly by the DOJ and the people in the DOJ and most certainly by the FBI officials who lied to the FISA court.
And I must say the FISA court doesn't seem to have been terribly offended by the way that they were treated.
I've not read anything about this.
I find it very disturbing.
Because they were lied to by Feds, and they didn't seem to complain.
I disagree with Joel to this extent.
I think it should be renegotiated, because we have to have the FISA, and this used to be under me when I was Chief Counsel for the Senate Intelligence Committee, so I worked on this, and also DOJ later.
You have to be able to access the embassies, the foreign embassies.
But the issue here for me is, isn't there something fundamentally...
There have to be entirely new standards for America.
But just the concept of a star chamber, I mean, a secret court where the accused is not represented, where the identity of the judge is kept a secret, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
That's an individual, you're talking about an individual, and there should be different rules, but we've got to be able to access the Chinese embassy.
Yeah, I think we have to set... That's a different issue.
No, it isn't, because that's my thing.
No, but it's all under FISA.
We have to separate the functions of FISA.
In other words, anything involving foreign individuals, we can reauthorize.
Anything involving an American citizen, no matter how tangentially, has to be handled separately and may have to be reauthorized later.
And let me tell you something else to just show you how awful the D.C.
judicial system is regarding FISA.
Kleinsmith, that lawyer, who made a false statement about Carter Page and, you know, like incriminated him.
Well, he actually forged the CIA document.
Yeah, he changed it so that Carter was not working for the U.S.
government when in fact he had been working for the U.S.
government.
Coinsmith pleads guilty, and the judge that he pleads to is the former FISA chief judge, who gives him a handshake, a little pat on the hand.
And who is reinstated to the DC bar within nine months.
Reinstated to the DC bar.
So that's how bad, that's how corrupt it is.
I mean, this judge, the chief judge of FISA isn't even offended?
The FBI lawyer lied?
So a divesting of the function that separates U.S.
persons from foreign intelligence agents?
Or suspects?
A whole new process has to be made for when U.S.
citizens are targeted.
And that gets kind of iffy because some people have dual citizenship, so all that has to be worked out.
Because when FISA was first started, The Department of Justice had people in charge.
Mary... Lawton.
Mary Lawton was in charge.
God rest her soul.
She's one of the greatest lawyers in the history of the Department of Justice.
Mary Lawton ran the FISA court and she was a bulwark against FBI corruption and lying to that court.
She weeded out all the crap that agents wanted to bring before that court.
That's all been lost.
What was her title?
What was her position?
She was counsel to the Attorney General, but she was in charge of all the intelligence activities of the court.
She tried to get the FBI to give her the phone book so she could contact people that she had a question and they refused, so she FOIAed it and got it.
She had to FOIA the FBI phone book.
Oh my gosh, this is from the sublime.
But see, that's been lost in the department now.
See, we know our history here.
Now the department is compromised in its relation, and I'm afraid that the court itself has gotten too easy and lazy about its function.
When I was in the Trump administration, I came to the conclusion that FBI, CIA have all been corrupted, but the worst of the worst, the true viper's den was the DOJ, and that's going to be very hard to clean up.
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Last question.
So sad we are almost out of time.
I'll start with you again, Victoria.
It seems, does it not, as if the The whole narrative, the multiple narratives of Nuclear Secrets, Espionage Act and everything else is collapsing with regards to Mar-a-Lago.
Is it not?
What happened to the nuclear codes?
Does it not matter anymore?
You know, again, there never should have been a search warrant because all they had to do was go to the judge that had issued the subpoenas, have an immediate emergency hearing, demand access, bring in people for testimony, but they didn't do that.
They didn't do that.
They purposely waited It couldn't have been that serious, because they waited basically a month to get things.
Then they waited an entire weekend.
I mean, the bottom line is, this has always been a fraudulent investigation.
I don't know how the documents were handled.
I don't know whether they violated the law or not.
But I can tell you this, whatever happened in the transition, it did not warrant a search of a former president's residence.
And I can't get anyone to answer this question.
How did Donald Trump take care of the documents during the time that he was president?
Because he would go to Mar-a-Lago.
There had to be some kind of system there.
And if the system was there during that... In place already.
Yes.
Did the government come and take it out so he could no longer have them?
Very good question.
Or, if they were happy the way it was being done when he was president, what changed?
But what about this question?
Why would the DOJ object to having a special master review the documents?
Why would you do?
If your case is solid, if you know, you know, the world's greatest secrets of being abused by the president, then why would you prevent a special master?
You wouldn't object at all.
It was a dumb position for them to take.
Politically dumb.
But it was very, very stupid.
Politically dumb.
But Garland is so...
So lost and gone.
He's such a different person.
Well, he's a meat puppet, don't you think?
He's just a face.
I think he's being manhandled by that.
You said dumb.
It seems to me, I mean, these people are evil.
They're bad.
You look at the Brennans.
You look at the Strokes.
You look at the Cobies.
These are bad people.
Hayden.
Hayden.
One of the worst.
One of the worst.
But But they're not very smart, is my conclusion.
They don't have to be when the media makes excuses for them, no matter how they feel.
But the arrogance and the ignorance together is a deadly combination.
But these aren't very smart people to begin with.
They're arrogant.
Do you concur?
I do.
I do.
Yeah, I had it to do with Michael Hayden once over whether Valerie Plame was covert.
Because he tried to get me indicted for saying that she was... Hayden!
I drafted the law!
No, it wasn't Hayden, it was the chairman who tried to get you indicted.
No, but Hayden gave him a letter that said I was wrong.
And then what's-his-name from California, who tried to get me, Mark Waxman, referred me for a prosecution.
And I approached Hayden and said, how dare you do that?
She was not covert.
He says, oh, I'm not a lawyer.
I wouldn't know that.
Unbelievable.
He's such a phony.
He is.
I've had run-ins with that man and he is, he might actually be, if you look at Crossfire Hurricane, he might be patient zero of TDS because General, General Hayden, a disgrace to the Air Force uniform he once wore, has very, very severe trauma derangement syndrome.
Okay, that lasted about five minutes, not an hour.
I'm disappointed.
We'll have to just have them camp out in the studio every single day.
Catch them, Newsmax, every Monday.
What time?
11 o'clock, Newsmax, Eastern Time.
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