Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Tulsi Gabbard leaves the Democrats; what next?
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I can no longer remain
in today's Democratic Party that's under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoking anti-white racism.
Who actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms that are enshrined in our Constitution.
Who are hostile to people of faith and spirituality.
Who demonize the police but protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans.
Who believe in open borders.
Who weaponize the national security state to go after their political opponents.
And above all, who are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.
No, I believe in a government that's of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Unfortunately, today's Democratic Party does not.
Well, well, well.
Tulsi Gabbard, no longer a Democrat.
She's left the Democrat Party.
Not sure why that didn't happen three years ago.
What is she going to do?
Well, she has presidential aspirations.
Let's have a little chat before I hear from you, dear friends.
I want to talk to my team, but the number here is 833-33-GORKA.
That's 833-33-GORKA.
334-6752.
What is your reaction?
I'll just give full credit.
I was on my friend Jennifer Horne's show this morning where she said, what does this mean for the future of American politics that Tulsi Gabbard has left the Democrat Party and attacked it as being a cabal of anti-American elitists?
She said, it means Tulsi Gabbard is going to be the hot Ross Perot.
Do you remember Ross Perot?
You have a certain vintage.
Ross Perot, the conservative who went up against George Bush and so split the vote on the right, which gave us Bubba, which gave us Clinton.
Yes, Ross Perot is a good guy, God rest his soul, but because he split the conservative vote.
Bush didn't win, and we got Bill Clinton.
Is Tulsi Gabbard going to do the same for the left?
We can only hope.
I'll give you my take, but let's walk through all of this.
Let's start with one of our newest members.
Alex, are you there?
I'm here.
All right.
I don't know if she likes industrial rap, if she's a fan of yay.
Can't he just call himself by his name?
But does this mean anything to you?
Do you think this has any significance that this pretty Democrat says the Democrats are insane?
I mean, I like what she's saying, but I'm questionable.
Like, where has she been for the past seven years?
Ooh, yes, very good.
Why hasn't she been more vociferous?
Because the Democrats were crazy two years ago, three years ago, four years ago, five years ago.
Why is she saying it now?
So very good.
Just raising a little Roger Moore eyebrow over there, asking a little question.
Where has she been?
Let's go to, I think, Eric fist bumping the sky as he was listening to that cut there.
Was very excited.
What does this mean to you, Eric?
I think this is a great development.
Realistically, I think Tulsi has been carving out this path for her as this, you know, not-crazy Democrat pretty much since 2016 when she resigned from the DNC, and certainly 2020 in her famous takedown of Kamala Harris during the primary debates.
I think she represents one of the very few left, sensible Dems.
You know, kind of like a Jim Webb when he ran for President in 2016.
It's like, you can call them Blue Dog Democrats, what have you.
I think whatever her presidential aspirations should be is a win-win for us.
You know, best case scenario, miracle scenario, she wins the nomination somehow.
and forces the party off of the cliff and back to a somewhat sensible direction.
Not-so-ideal scenario is she is a spoiler and, you know, like Ross Perot in the case of the Republicans, she spoils enough for the Democrats and that's good for us.
All right.
You said she's not the insane Democrat.
I would beg to differ.
I'll tell you why in a moment.
But let's go to Jeff.
Is this a big deal or is this a little bit dollar short and a day late?
I think there's no way that she's going to be a Ross Perot-like because it's not going to split the Democrat Party.
The entire Democrat Party basically now is a cult.
Anybody that's not voting for Democrats now they're just going to vote for Republicans.
She has no chance at running for president as an independent or some spoiler roll.
You don't think, for example, that the Bernie Bros, who are anti-war, will like at least one Democrat being against war?
No, because as she's made this turn, she's not bashing Republicans.
And that's what they want.
Oh, interesting.
Interesting.
Alright, I'll give you my take, Dr. G's take.
There's something...
There's something wrong with this picture.
There's something broken with the clock, if you will.
Why?
Because she hasn't apologized.
Maybe Eric can dig up a couple of headlines we can put on the screen while I'm talking about this.
She hasn't apologized for what she did in Syria.
So let me wind back the clock a little bit.
When I was in the White House, something bad was happening in Syria.
There was the use of chemical weapons.
And after the first use of chemical weapons against unarmed civilians, against women and children, Tulsi Gabbard decided to talk out publicly about it.
Not only that, she traveled to Syria.
Not only that, she didn't go on a fact-finding mission to, you know, the site of the attack or to speak with survivors.
Instead, she had tea with Bashar al-Assad.
Yeah, she sat down, had a nice cup of tea with the dictator of Syria.
When she came home, so number one, this isn't the President of the United States walking up to the DMZ in North Korea for some summit on nuclear weapons.
This is a member of Congress who, by the way, was still A major in the U.S.
Army Reserves sitting down for tea with a dictator who has used violence against his own citizens to stay in power.
Not as, you know, bloodthirsty as his father, but a bad guy, a killer.
And when we decided, thank you Eric, perfect, nicely done, there's the headline, Tulsi Gabbard reveals she met Assad in Syria without informing top Democrats.
When she comes back, we see the reports.
I can't give you all the details, but we saw the intercepts.
That the Assad regime from a specific airbase in Syria was going to use chemical weapons again, again against civilian targets.
So what did President Trump decide to do?
He didn't deploy the 82nd Airborne.
He's not interested in invading other countries.
But he did drop 52 cruise missiles on that airbase to send a very clear message to Assad, to North Korea, to Russia, to the Chinese.
No, no, no.
You're not using chemical weapons against civilian targets.
You're not using them at all, but you're not using them against chemical weapons.
Tarsy Gabbard, who has, Eric reminds me, guest-hosted Tucker Carlson's show, made public statements about Assad's not a bad guy and the chemical weapons weren't used by him.
It was a false flag operation By Al-Qaeda.
Let me tell you, as a strategist in the White House, the technical term for that is Bravo Sierra.
Yeah, absolute garbage.
That is not a woman, I need in the White House as President.
I don't need in a poli... You may be an isolationist, and I get it.
There's a Neo-Buchananite isolationist.
It's a, you know, long-held tradition in a certain part of conservative politics.
But that's one thing.
You can be an isolationist.
But to be an apologist for murderous dictators in the Middle East?
And then just to make stuff up about chemical weapon strikes?
No, she's a loon.
She's pretty, and that little silver thing in her hair?
Very fetching.
But Tulsi Gabbard is a nutcase.
It's gonna divide the left a little bit at least, and that's cool.
But she's not the answer.
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Can you put it on one of the screens in here?
Sorry, yeah, let me do that.
Let's do the monitor PC.
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Is this new?
This looks like the old Battle Borders stuff.
Yeah.
They added something at the bottom, your promo code.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Alright.
You can see now, right, Seb?
Yeah, gotcha guys.
That was fun.
It was.
Like, let me put it this way.
I feel like the most important thing for American politics right now is getting the GOP firmly in this America First stance.
You know, dragging it to the right like Trump is doing.
The second best thing for American politics is dragging the Democrats away from as far left as they are.
Like, it's... That's not our job.
No, you're right.
It's not our job.
It's not.
It's not.
But I wouldn't mind encouraging it.
We need to do ins and outs for Joe and Victoria.
Oh yeah, ins and outs.
Stay with us for more one-on-one with Joe and Victoria after this break.
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Where are you, troublemaker?
I happen to be in my daughter's flat in Knightsbridge, my good friend.
Ooh, Knightsbridge, of course.
You gonna go to Harrods for a little bit of afternoon tea?
I love to buy things from the Qataris, so yes, I will be going to Harrods.
You could buy some British sausages.
You don't have to buy Qatari crap.
I mean, seriously.
I have been to Harrods multiple times on this trip already.
Good.
All right, so we're not going to play the video, because it doesn't work on radio.
But we could, can you play it as B-roll in the background, Eric?
Yeah, let me.
Well, when I'm talking to him, play it in the background as B-roll, because I think you put subtitles on it, so there's text that we can read.
And then I'm just going to ask you to describe it.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's kind of fun.
Good.
And it's just a tease, right, for the amazing things you're going to do?
Yeah.
The report comes out Saturday, the public-facing portion, and then the rest of it will go into some of the people who can use it for good things after that.
Good.
All right.
I'm going to tease up Extortion 17.
We're going to use that video, and then we'll tune it down quickly, and then we'll go to Jim.
Yes.
You'll tease up Extortion 17?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then...
Oh, real quick, titles?
Jeff, do you know, does Justin Hart ring a bell?
I think so, yeah.
Can you look him up?
Because he wants to come on the show and I have no recollection.
I think we had, is he from Florida?
No idea.
He's just got a new book out.
out um 25 seconds tulsi gabbard um maybe leaving the dems but she's still like she's still she's still a wacko
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Thank you.
Do you remember extortion 17?
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Where to start?
Okay, my life was short, but a great one.
If I died doing something with the teams, then I died doing the greatest job in working with the most talented, hardworking, and the greatest group of warriors ever to walk this earth.
I've made more memories and had greater experiences than ten normal people.
That is a letter that shouldn't have to have been read by his family members.
It's the price so many pay to be our defenders and to stand on the wall for us.
But what of those who survive their deployments and come back not necessarily scarred and mutilated, but psychologically damaged?
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One man who has worn the cloth of the Republic and a very natty green beret as well is a good friend of the show and guest host as well and he is zooming into us from an undisclosed location somewhere close to Harrods.
He is Jim Hansen.
Welcome Jim back to America First.
Pip pip cheerio, Seb.
Oh, pip pip!
Oh, chap, how is it going?
Hope you're having some nice high tea and some scones with clotted cream.
You have been teasing something on my show for about six months.
You dropped a little video to me that is teasing it even more, but we're getting closer to the report that's going to be published on Saturday.
Let's play the video in the background.
It's on my Twitter, it's on my social media, on my Facebook.
Tell those who are not familiar, what have you and your colleagues been up to, Jim?
Well, Seb, I'm sure you recall the October surprise in the 2020 election was the New York Post story on Hunter Biden's laptop.
Chock full of felonies and corruption by the Biden family.
But even worse, I think, was the conspiracy to censor that story and stop the American people from seeing it.
And then in addition, a disinformation campaign run by the media, the tech tyrants, the deep state and Democrat operatives, including Biden campaign members, to lie about that and claim that the laptop was Russian disinformation.
We're exposing it.
We used AI software and a lot of other things.
So let's go back.
So you have the contents of the hard drives, you're using artificial intelligence, and you're what?
Connecting the dots, Jim?
Absolutely.
And it's less about the contents of the laptop and more about what the people who didn't want those contents seen did to stop that and to lie to the American people to influence the 2020 election.
And sadly, Seb, they were really successful.
80% of the people who now know what happened when Biden was vice president and Hunter was a degenerate crackhead selling the country now think that they might have changed their vote.
They would have swayed the election.
If they had known what was on the laptop instead of these people successfully hiding it and lying about it to the American public.
So we're playing the video.
It's very impressive.
It's like something out of the Matrix.
Very nicely done.
I can't wait for the report on Saturday.
So can you give us a sense of What it is that your AI mapping is telling you.
Are you mapping the conspiracy to suppress?
Or is it leading you to make new connections?
Or is it both of those?
Tell us what you're finding.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think what it is, more and more information is coming out about just how brazen members of the Biden campaign and now the Biden administration have been in using the tech tyrants of Silicon Valley to outsource censorship to.
And they literally have been sending messages to them telling them, this is information we don't want the public to have.
Please kill it.
They did that in 2020 to hide from the American people how bad Biden's corruption was, and it continued along the way.
So now it's grown from just the, this is one example of what they've been doing.
Now we find they did it on COVID.
They did it on the election results.
They've done it on any number of things they don't want the public seeing information about, and we have to stop it.
So this is designed to go now to the oversight committees in Congress, And hopefully through other legal means to stop them from being able to ever do this again.
Alright, the account is Jim Hansen DC on Twitter.
Where can they read the report?
Where can they see more of this Jim on Saturday?
On Saturday, there will be an exposé coming out as the Long Read on American Greatness, and it's about 9,000 words, and it's most of the public-facing information.
And then we're also providing privately to both the oversight committees and to some folks who are conducting lawfare against the Biden administration and the tech tyrants, some of the places where they probably crossed the line and violated the law.
So you said we have to stop them.
You've mapped the battlefield.
You've given us the intsum, the SIT report.
You've dumped it on us.
Do we have the wherewithal?
Do we have an organic entity?
Are we really going to rely upon Capitol Hill, Jim?
You and I both know we can't.
So that's why we're trying to work with private entities that have the best interests of our Republican heart.
And we don't want censorship on either side.
We just want a level playing field where all ideas can fight and let the best ones win.
But that's not what the left wants.
That's not what the deep state is allowing us to have.
So, we're going to use all the tools we have.
We're going to use our conservative media.
We're going to force the mainstream media to cover this by making it too big a thing and by winning some court cases.
And we're also going to use Congress to the extent that they can do this by asking them to hold up funding to the agencies like the FBI and the larger DOJ, who were part of this conspiracy to lie to and censor information that the American public had a right to.
All right, he has to go off right now and have some fish and chips, but he's doing the Lord's work, even if he is in the UK.
I can't wait for the day to dump 9,000 words at our buddy, he was on the show yesterday, Chris Buskirk's website, AmericanGreatnessAmGreatness.com, and then I want to see all the rest of it.
Somebody had to do this!
Well of course, it's Jim Hansen.
Executive Director of American Matters, Jim Hansen DC on Twitter.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, your call's next.
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Sound off on Tulsi or the laptop or anything else.
All right, Michael.
All right, that was fun.
That was great, dude.
That was super.
Yeah, it's fun.
I'll let you know, I might actually have a chance to film a little bit with my relatives in Sweden who support the far-right party that won the last election.
You mean the Christian Democrats?
The crazy Christian Democrats?
Who knew?
How dare they have a Christian party in Sweden?
I know, isn't it awesome?
So, can I see an advance copy?
Can I read the...
It should be done editing tomorrow, so I'll shoot it to you as soon as I've got it.
All right.
Thanks so much.
Super excited that you actually brought it to fruition, Jim.
You got it.
Talk to you soon, Seb.
Be safe.
It had to be American Greatness.
That makes perfect sense.
Of course.
That's fantastic.
Three minutes.
Still need titles for, well, that and also Grandmaster and J&V.
Two things that make a man.
John Durham has failed us.
It's official.
John Durham has failed us.
It's official?
Yeah.
Okay.
John Durham has failed us.
Stop.
It's official.
Stop.
Okay.
And Hanson.
We did the deep dive on Hunter's laptops.
That video is really well made.
It is.
It's nicely done.
That would look really good as b-roll.
Thank you.
Two minutes.
Alrighty.
How's it going, Rumblers?
Almost 1,400 of you already.
What?
Welcome one and all.
Oh, I can't see the call board.
It's not up.
That's... We got two minutes.
Take your time, Guy.
Yeah, Guy's gonna try to fix that now.
Can we remember to always do that after Larry's here?
Yes.
Can you play cut 10?
Cut 10.
I got a guy.
All right.
Cut 10.
Yes.
Well, you know, we've tried over the years, but I, let me just start with saying this.
I strongly believe in the, and the majority of Americans agree.
Nobody should.
There we go.
Okay.
Yeah.
Thanks guy.
All right.
Uh, we'll go to some calls, but come in.
Oh, what am I doing here?
This is C. C. Um, come in with Kamala.
Then I'll do border battle and then I'll go to calls.
Coming in with cut 10, then border battle, then calls.
Okie dokes, one minute.
Come in with 10, which is a 16 second cut.
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Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Well, you know, we've tried over the years, but let me just start with saying this.
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Line one, Las Vegas.
Andy, welcome.
Oh, it's a pleasure to talk to you, Gorka.
You're breaking up, Andy.
Are you driving a car or what's going on?
No, sir.
I'm standing still.
It's a pleasure to talk to you.
I just want to know why the media is not paying much attention, especially the voices on the air about the The revolution and the election that's been taking place in Iraq, and it affects the United States tremendously, Middle East, and those who say, stand with Israel, it will help them.
Someone who lived there in 1978 saw the revolution, left right before I shot it.
It's gone for four weeks, and it's not coming back.
This toothpaste is already out of the tube.
It's not coming back, and those Mullahs are gone.
I don't hear any religious... But seriously, I hope it's a rhetorical question.
I mean, why are people not talking about it?
Because they're on the side of the Mullers.
They're on the side of the IRGC.
This administration is on the side of the murderers, Andy.
You know that.
You're absolutely right, because, Dr. Gorka, if, if, if not, not if, when it happens, when this revolution takes place and they topple the regime, there will be a vacuum, there'll be a hole, a big hole, and the one who's standing by is China.
And you're right, Joe Biden, being in pocket of China, doesn't want United States to be taking place over there.
So I just want them to pay more attention to it.
Like I said, this is happening.
If you asked me two months ago, because for somebody who traveled there back and forth for a visit, I said, no way, they're not leaving.
A week, no, three weeks ago, I said, eh, not a chance, eh.
But as of now, there's no question about it.
Everybody's standing up, young.
They're killing as young as two.
People as old as 80 waving, and they're not chanting anything religious.
It's all down with Khamenei, down with Islamic Republic, and all they want is liberty.
Yeah, well, we are on the side of the Persian people, but nothing significant, nothing's going to happen from this administration.
We have to wait for President Trump.
This administration actually wants to give money to the murderous Mullahs.
Thank you.
Stay on the line, Andy.
Let's give Andy a signed copy of my first book, Defeating Jihad.
Let's go to Phil in Philadelphia, line two.
Welcome, buddy.
Thank you, Dr. G. As the chief strategist to the greatest president that this country has ever had... Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
I don't want to get in trouble with my old boss, but I would say Washington and Lincoln probably come first and second.
But my question is, when our national reserves are depleted down to zero, and China and or Russia make a move into Alaska, How are we possibly going to handle that if we have no way for our citizen soldiers to reinforce them up there?
How are we going to do it?
Well, hang on.
Who told you that Russia's going to invade Alaska or China's going to invade?
It's an obvious entry point into our country.
Yeah, but you need to have expeditionary forces.
Russia can't even take Ukraine that's next door.
How are they going to invade America?
China hasn't even taken Taiwan yet.
How are they going to travel 8,000 miles to Alaska?
I think that this is the golden goose.
If they come into Alaska, they have all the oil and all the food they need to feed a war machine to try to come down the coast.
Yeah, but they may want it, but it's not physically possible.
They can't actually capture it.
You can't take territory thousands of miles away from your country unless you have expeditionary forces.
They don't.
Now, look, look, you know, I'm not saying that they're not a threat, but they're not going to invade Alaska.
I guarantee you that right now.
Russia is tied down in Ukraine.
China doesn't even know what to do with Taiwan.
So for the time being, Alaska is safe.
Not because of Biden and not because they've wasted our strategic reserves, but at least on this one thing, do me a favor.
Allow me to reassure you, my good friend, Phil, that Alaska is safe for the time being from China and Russia.
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Hold on, let me replay it.
Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Let's pitch that.
Hey guys, how are you?
Good, good, good, good.
We're just gonna talk about the last two pieces you sent me, alright?
coming in sebastian gawker and then it's actually you know kamala harris or whatever so let's just get rid of it all right he is on the line all right hey guys how are you good good good good we're just going to talk about the last two pieces you sent me all right unless there's something else that you're working on i think those are great Yeah, the stuff about Robbie Mook and the real story that Durham is told.
Yes, outside of the people outside the court.
Good, good, good.
Alright, let's start with Mook and then we'll move to Durham.
Sounds great, thank you.
Good.
Uh, no cuts?
Uh, no cuts.
Alrighty.
Are you gonna do a MyPillow at the top?
Yes.
You don't have access to the audio of MyPillow from, from John, John Solomon?
Oh, that, yeah, what Solomon talks about.
Starts with, I had a neck problem.
We've, I think we've played it before.
Yeah, I have it right here.
Yeah, come in with that, that's cool.
I had a neck problem.
Yes.
There it is.
That's my I had a dream.
That's 30 seconds long.
That one day every state in the nation will have MyPillow products.
Not every state!
Every American!
You gotta dream big, Eric!
Come on!
Oh, that's funny.
45 seconds. 45 seconds.
45 seconds.
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They said, you might have a little arthritis.
I saw one of Mike's ads.
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Two stories we've got to squeeze into the next six minutes with you, John.
Perhaps the person with the most unfortunate names in the Democrat politics, Robbie Mook.
You've got a story about... He's not so independent of the government, is he?
No, listen, in 2016, he's the guy that Hillary Clinton gives the order to to spread the fake Russia collusion story, the Alfa Bank secret communication channel, the Kremlin, which never existed, by the way.
He testifies that the Sussman trial, it turns out four years later, he creates a center at Harvard University called the Belfer Center Digital Democracy Project.
And they're actually working with the Homeland Security Department to create that censorship machine that we talked about in the show a couple weeks ago.
How big was that censorship machine?
Well, it affected 4,800 URLs, 22 million social media posts, 20 news organizations, and two dozen influencers, conservative influencers, all impacted, designed to restrain their free speech.
He's actually advising, his senator is advising the Homeland Security Department on how to do this.
We're going to put a video out the next day or so where you can actually see their presentation.
You know what the presentation said?
focus on those people who have large audiences and reach If you cut them off, they can't get the message out.
So let's just translate this into non-Washington speak.
Yeah.
A man who is running the campaign for a presidential nominee is working with the federal government to censor political individuals who could be damaging for his campaign or his future campaigns.
That's what we're saying.
Yeah, the difference is he created the thing after he left Hillary Clinton's campaign.
So he creates it in 17, but he's still a Democrat who's significantly involved with Democratic politics.
Well, and who could be running a campaign again.
Without a doubt.
He's one of the most important players in the democratic political world.
So he has future ambitions.
But the idea that a Democrat is sitting there telling the Trump Homeland Security Department, these are the people you should say, here's how you censor.
And then they become part of the system that censors almost predominantly conservatives.
I think that's what concerns people so much.
It's silencing your critics.
It's not consistent with the First Amendment.
It's not consistent with the way we practice politics up until the 2020 election.
Has Mook or any of his representatives commented on your story or said anything in response?
They have not yet.
We do have a video that they prepared for 2020, a training video, which we're going to make public in the next 24-48 hours.
You'll get to hear exactly what they were telling Homeland Security and state election officials on how to go about with this censorship.
Wow.
All right, I can't wait for that.
Please text it to me as usual and we will spread it along.
Our followers as well.
It may not cheer Robby Mook, but at least 4.2 million people on our social media platforms will see them alone.
Jay Solomon reports, founder, editor-in-chief at justinews.com.
All right, second story.
Allegedly, according to the Wall Street Journal, the John Durham investigation of the Russia hoax is winding down as the Danchenko case starts this week in Alexandria in Virginia.
Your latest piece, and we're going to repost it right now, I posted it this morning, talks about the ramifications of the investigation outside of that Alexandria courtroom.
Could you explain why they may be more important than whatever happens to Danchenko?
Yeah, that's a great point.
So Danchenko's charged with five lies.
The FBI is going to be a very technical trial about were these actual statements true or not.
Outside the trial, when you take the sum total of the court documents that Durham has filed in the Danchenko case, you get an unmistakable portrait that the FBI had every reason to doubt, dismiss, drop the Russia collusion investigation two, three years before Robert Mueller finally concluded there was no collusion.
You see a bevy of lies that are easily detectable.
You see that Steele and Danchenko are not consistent.
You see Danchenko's own story wasn't consistent while he was sitting on the FBI's payroll.
He's being paid by the FBI.
And time and time again, there are red flags that what he just said couldn't be true.
I'll give you one example.
He said that he got the information about the famous pee tape, the Trump tryst that never occurred at the Moscow Hotel.
From a person in July, but he actually reported to steal in June.
The FBI clearly would have known that wasn't true.
He had already told stealing June.
He's claiming the guy gave it to him in July major inconsistencies throughout the investigation, but they never raise a red flag and there's a great line in one of the last filings.
He just did same.
You know what?
In a counterintelligence investigation like that, the FBI should have been very sensitive to the fact that this could have been Russian disinformation.
Very calculated line by John Durham, not playing to the jury or the judge in the case, but to the American people.
The FBI had every red flag that this was not a real allegation, and they didn't stop it.
Do you expect, as somebody who's uncovered so much of this story in your book, Fallout, and at JustTheNews.com, that there will be Many on Capitol Hill, many Republicans who are less than satisfied with the fact that none of Durham's indictments actually go against senior members of the FBI or the DOJ and rather they were treated as victims rather than perpetrators.
Is that going to cause political issues after the midterms?
Oh, the Republicans are not happy with the way this investigation has played out.
But then, they don't have access to all the facts that John Durham has.
I think we need to see what those facts are.
I think if he finishes the report, next year there will be multiple detailed hearings that will expose a lot more of the Russian collusion story.
And that's important because it's the predicate, it's the foundation for a lot of the other political investigations the FBI has done since then.
There's a pattern emerging, and if you understand the first case, you'll understand the rest of the pattern.
Patterns of life.
Legal fact patterns.
We can't wait to see all of the analysis.
Justthenews.com.
Also, the book is Fallout.
Thank you, John.
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Hillary's campaign manager censors his opponents or something like that.
The Democrats are censoring again or something like that.
Robbie Mook colludes with government on censorship.
Mm-hmm.
Want to use any cuts here?
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Dr. G is in the house on America First.
Alright, everybody wants to sound off.
The call board is absolutely full.
Let's go to Ray in Livermore, line two.
Dr. G!
Hey!
Good to talk to you again.
You too.
Your suspicions of Tulsi Gabbard are, and your questions are valid, but I think she has value in that the way you played, I think you played the clip when she went after Harris at the debate.
And we need Dems to take down Dems.
Yes.
Because we've got our own problem with McCain, Romney, Kissinger, Cheney.
You know, the left loves to use them as examples of how the right has gone in the wrong direction.
And we need people like Gabbard.
We've got to prop her up to whatever degree we can.
It doesn't mean, like you said, that we have to trust her.
She's wrong on a lot of things.
But, you know, she's right on some of these things.
And she's right in that the Democrat Party is going in the wrong direction.
No, she is, she is.
The only issue is that you're assisting somebody who's a conspiracy theorist.
But don't get me wrong, you know, if she is a tool of sowing discontent and fracturing an insane party that has to come back to some level of normalcy, I'm absolutely for it.
Don't get me wrong.
But the idea that this person should be anywhere near power is very, very dangerous.
Thank you, my buddy.
Let's stay on the topic of Tulsi Gabbard.
Bill in Georgia.
Bill, welcome.
Yes, Sebastian.
I would strongly disagree with your assessment of Gabbard and Assad.
We, in the United States, could choose between Assad or ISIS.
You see what ISIS did?
Why do we have to choose between two evil bastards?
Why do I have to side on one evil bastard?
Why?
Why can't they both be evil?
Ah, see I stumped you there, Bill, right?
I don't have to be on the side of evil bastards.
Neither one views themselves as evil.
Neither did Hitler.
What the hell are you talking about?
ISIS isn't evil?
Are you on crack, Bill?
The United States over 50 years ago pretty much declared war against the Muslims.
Oh, who are... Bill, why are you listening to Radio America?
You're a stupid leftist who hates... Why are you living in America?
If you think we declared war on Islam, ask those people who were murdered by Al-Qaeda on 9-11.
Why the hell do you live here, Bill?
Go and live in an ISIS camp in the Middle East, you cretin.
Get out of our country, you murderer-hating, anti-American cretin.
Goodbye.
Wow, that was fun.
Thank you, Jeff.
That was very, very enjoyable.
Did you know that's what he was going to say, that ISIS are good guys?
Uh, I knew he was getting towards that, and I figured it'd be better to have it just come up to you not knowing that.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, because we declared war on Islam.
Yeah.
Really.
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If the election denier is on the right, win in 2020.
Conrad.
Yes, sir.
Greetings.
How are we doing?
Fine, thank you.
How are you?
Good, good, good, good.
Going to play you some entertaining clips.
I have your latest piece for the New York Sun.
We'll discuss Ukraine probably in the second segment.
Okay.
My impression is it's getting better in the polls all the time.
Is that European?
Yes, it is.
But just listen to these two clips and we will see a pattern in the ploy of the Democrats that I need you to react to.
30 seconds.
Yeah.
Cut five, Nicole Wallace.
But come in with Hassan.
Let's go.
This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. - If the election deniers on the right win in 2022, in November next month, to me, democracy looks like it's over in America.
Fascism is here to stay.
And if they lose, we get maybe another insurrection, domestic terrorism, a civil war, God forbid.
Mehdi Hassan, MSNBC, with a strange definition of fascism.
If the Republicans win the election, then fascism has arrived.
I guess the majority picking who should be in Congress is Mehdi Hassan's definition of fascism.
I know somebody who will have a very different one.
Presidential historian, former media mogul, financier, judicial reform advocate, and just an all-around good friend of the show, Lord Conrad Black.
Welcome back to America First.
Thanks, Sebastian.
I'm delighted to come back and listen to such rubbish.
I mean, what that man said.
I mean, this is a representative of one of the leading networks.
Yes!
Democracy is fascism.
Now, in fact, fascism, as those of your listeners who are interested are aware, was in fact a bunch of street bullies wearing black shirts, bearing symbolically the fascist symbol of the authority of the Roman Republic, the Caesars, and, I mean, Julius Caesar, anyway, and marching upon Rome and installing an authoritarian government.
And apart from that, Mussolini was essentially just one of History is more spectacular scoundrel, so an able man in many ways made it up as he went along, but he fell under the spell of Hitler and ended up being shot by communists and hung upside down in a gas station.
That's fascism.
With his girlfriend, hung upside down with his girlfriend.
With his lady friend, yeah.
And how you equate that to the Republicans winning an election, which happened when Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan, for example, were elected, how you equate that to the Republicans winning an election, I think that's something how you equate that to the Republicans winning an election, I think that's something that psychiatrists and people who deal with severely deranged people would have
But let's stay on this topic, because as the former chairman of the Hollinger Group, which published some of the newspapers of world renown across the English-speaking lands, the sheer
The fact that this host on MSNBC isn't challenged, let alone by his guests, but by his superiors in this definition that the will of the people would be fascism, what does that say about the status of legacy journalism in America, Lord Black?
It confirms what you and I have lamented all the time.
We've had these very, as far as I'm concerned, pleasant exchanges, and other people of a wide range of political views have stated with a growing sense of lamentation that the free press Uh, is incompetent and dishonest.
And that is why only approximately 15% of Americans believe what they see in the media or hear in the media.
And it is a terribly dangerous situation.
Democracy cannot ultimately, and I mean democracy not fascism, cannot ultimately flourish Without a free press.
We have to have a free press.
But when the public no longer values a free press, there will be no pressure for it to be free.
It will be completely disregarded, as is now almost the case.
And the whole standard of public discourse deteriorates, and you are apt to get charlatans and ridiculous and completely unacceptable people gaining access to elective office.
But the problem is not the public voting Republican.
The problem is that journalists are dishonest and incompetent.
And by the way, most of them are illiterate also.
This is true if you listen to the copy that they read off the teleprompters.
Let's stay on this issue and just go one level deeper in our analysis.
Lord Black is the co-host of the podcast Scholars and Sense with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett and the author most recently of the book Donald J. Trump, A President Like No Other.
You can follow him at ConradMBlack on Twitter and ConradMBlack.com is the website.
So staying with another show host who shockingly actually was a political appointee in the Bush administration.
That's Nicole Wallace, who is clearly one of the leading patients of Trump derangement syndrome today.
This isn't just ranking competence and dishonesty, this is a very dangerous idea she floats with regards to how we should run elections in America.
Cut five, play cut.
Because if you have kids, your kids wake up if you have anything to do with an election, if you're an election worker or a news anchor, and they want to know what happened.
And I think we have to have a conversation as a country.
About how we might not know the next morning what happened.
We might not know the day after that.
And that is their point.
That is their point.
They're not all running to win.
Some of them will, unfortunately.
They are running to sow discord in America.
And it will change everything.
We will wake up the morning after election day.
We might not even call it that anymore in two years.
We might not call it election day.
We might call it election week.
So, you've been very bold and outspoken with regards to your analysis of the 2020 elections, but to have this mirror-imaged, perverse, complete reversal of the interpretation of those events to say it will be the Republicans, Lord Black, who will deliberately delay the announcement of who won the elections so they can game the system, it reminds me of what
My Salem colleague, the great Dennis Prager says, whatever the modern left is accusing you of doing, it's what they themselves are actually committing.
Well, this is one of the principles of Saul Alinsky, whom we all now salute as a kind of demon whose influence was despicable, but is undeniable, and he's to be credited as... I mean, Satan himself is that formidable foe.
And Saul Alinsky said, accuse the other side of what you yourself are doing.
Now, I don't think that Ms.
Wallace has what background or intellect to actually pluck that out of her knowledge and use it as a tactic.
I think she's just, in that wonderful phrase from McCarthy era, a dupe and a stooge.
You know, she's just an unknowing, useful idiot.
I'm now quoting Lennon.
for the side she supports, but she does it by reflex, not by analysis.
But maybe I'm underestimating her, but I suspect not.
But that's where we are.
I mean, we literally have people so locked into the idea that a rejection of what they are trying to do in destroying Trump, that a rejection of that and the survival and flourishing of Trump and his followers and his policies, which that a rejection of that and the survival and flourishing of Trump and his followers and his policies, which are generally supported, is an evil so great is an evil so great that any traditional or textual notion of the orderly,
rules-based conduct of elections and the democratic selection of office holders through free rules-based conduct of elections and the democratic selection of office holders through free elections with scrupulously Anything like that is itself a totalitarian service and must be stamped out.
I mean, this is the perversity we've reached, but in fairness, Sebastian, I don't think 5% of the American public buys into that.
I just think that unfortunately our media and the entertainment community and certain other prominent figures in Wall Street and the Silicon Valley and academia are uniquely vulnerable to this virus of malignant idiocy that is afflicting American politics.
And how dangerous is this seemingly increasing trend We saw the recent election in New York, where it took more than six weeks for the result to be posted, of having elections that last for not a day or a week, but last for months, Conrad.
Exactly.
As you said, election day.
Even Ms.
Wallace implied.
It is now a sort of ludicrous trip into the past.
We're not going to have an election day.
We'll run the elections for months until we get the result we want, you know, with great wads of unverified pseudo ballots put in drop boxes at four o'clock in the morning.
I mean, the answer, I think, to your question is, it's not going to go on because ultimately one must have faith in the people, and I do.
I mean, it is a sophisticated population.
It is prone to all sorts of malignant influences.
The right to free speech enables a great many undesirable people to get anything they want off their chests and mislead a lot of people.
But ultimately, in a democracy, you have to trust the people or it's not going to work.
And I'm not a well-qualified person to use a sports metaphor, but in the United States, it's between the 30-yard lines.
There are extremes, but they don't call the tune.
In the end, the solid, radical center of America will decide, and it will do what is prudent and in the best interest, and it won't be distracted by these doctrines of self-hate and outright subversion.
A Canadian British member of the House of Lords using American sports analogies on our show.
I think we've made it, gentlemen.
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And then I'd be curious what your reaction is to this video statement of Tulsi Gabbards, of her leaving the Democrat Party, whether that has an impact on Democratic politics.
Well, is she?
I just saw a reference she was leaving.
Did she say where she was going?
Is she a Republican or an Independent?
Let's play the official statement for Conrad.
Let's play it now.
I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that's under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoking anti-white racism, who actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms that are enshrined in our Constitution, who are hostile to people of faith and spirituality,
Who demonize the police but protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans.
Who believe in open borders.
Who weaponize the national security state to go after their political opponents.
And above all, who are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.
Now, I believe in a government that's of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Unfortunately, today's Democratic Party does not.
All right, two and a half minutes.
So that's the gist of her statement.
I see, okay.
But look, can you tell me, because I may want to write about this, the name of that lunatic who you ran in your first tape there?
Oh, Mehdi Hassan.
I'll send, I will email you the clip.
Mehdi Hassan, British MSNBC host.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, we play football in Britain and Canada, too, as you know.
It's a different football.
Right.
Similar field.
Jeff, can you tell Jeff to email a link to Lord Black of the Mehdi Hassan clip?
Will do.
Thank you.
What's the cut you want to use in this segment for Lord Black?
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And then I'll fade it down, and then... Which one is it?
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It's the... Ari Berman, Cut 4.
Cut 4, okay.
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Lord Black, I'm going to ask you about the significance of Tulsi Gabbard's announcement but first just one more insane clip if you will indulge me also from MSNBC one of their talking heads a guest with again not a redefinition of fascism but a redefinition of what a coup is cut for On the one hand, we have violence becoming normalized in insurrectionist circles.
Then we also have the threat of the insurrection broadening, that they're actually trying to institutionalize the insurrection.
And that's what all of the election denialism is about.
It's about the fact that the coup failed in 2020.
So they're trying to do whatever they can to make sure the coup succeeds in 2024.
And instead of trying to illegally overthrow an election.
They're trying to do it legally by controlling who are the secretaries of state, who the state AGs are, who the governors are.
That is Ari Berman, Lord Black, saying that the Republicans are going to try and affect a legal coup.
Yes, by actually getting their candidates elected to positions such as state attorney general in fair elections by public approbation, this is a coup.
I mean, we might as well say that for George Washington to consent to be drafted without opposition as president in 1788 constituted a coup d'etat.
That is precisely what it was.
I think they're arguing for the cancellation of elections.
Doesn't that sound like to you?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, we can't have elections because they, if they go against what we want, it's a coup d'etat.
The people, Lord Black, the people will choose the wrong candidate.
You can't have that.
I know, but you see this, I mean, at some point, We may not live to see it, but at some point a serious psychiatric and sociological analysis is going to be made to give some indication for why this absolute hysteria about Donald Trump, who isn't on the ballot, is relatively quiet.
He's going around on a tour speaking to candidates, groups of Republican candidates ask him to do it.
But he's not getting a huge amount of publicity or seeking it.
He's not sending out controversial tweets or he can't tweet anymore, controversial messages.
He's just going about his business in a relatively discreet way, not a controversial way.
And even now, you know, despite that, we have this constant background that if Trump isn't completely destroyed politically, we're in danger of the overthrow of the American Republic and the imposition of a totalitarian we're in danger of the overthrow of the American Republic and I mean, These people who utter such things are not sane, and at least they're not sane when they say that.
So we should ultimately know what lunacy it is that, as if it was planted in their breakfast cereal or something, as people used to say about fluoridated water, is leading a large number of otherwise, for the most part, intelligent, or at least sensible, people to utter such absolute, deranged nonsense.
You, I think every other interview you always add the caveat that neither of us are licensed psychiatrists but somebody needs to do a mass psychiatric analysis of what has happened to American politics.
It's hard to explain.
Look, I understand why that A bipartisan post-Reagan establishment, the O'Bushentons I call them, a sort of look-alike group of Republicans and Democrats.
Some of them good people, that's not the issue, but it's really just one party rule and a gradual drift to the left.
And Washington itself, the federal government, is entirely run by the Democrats, and you can see it in the vote totals that always give the Democrats over 90% of the vote in District of Columbia.
This is really an extraordinary turn we've arrived at, where these people, in defense of what they think to be their absolute right to continue with this monopoly, represent anyone outside the system, outside their approval, or indeed represent one person who has got anywhere in that role,
As not just an opponent, someone they don't like, a person they don't disagree with, that's all fine, that's fair comment, but as some satanic maniac determined and hell-bent to overthrow democracy in America.
I mean, you look all fair up to a point in love, war, and politics, but in a rational, democratic, small-b democratic country, You don't have otherwise serious people resorting to that kind of hysterical, defamatory nonsense.
We only have a few seconds left.
I'd like your reaction to Tulsi Gabbard's rather full-throated rejection of the Democrats.
She's left the party, hasn't said who she's joining.
As one commentator said to me this morning, could she be the attractive version of Ross Perot that divides the Democrats this time, not the Republicans?
On her declaration, I certainly identified with most of it.
I respect her as a member of the Armed Forces Reserve and someone who has been in combat zones in the Armed Forces.
But I don't agree with her implicit imputation to this administration.
And goodness knows anyone who listens to us, Sebastian, knows that there are not a lot of people more vociferous in their criticism of the administration than I am.
But I do not agree that they are warmongers.
I think they are making some mistakes, but they are trying to do the right thing in Ukraine.
And I would want to segregate that part of what she said.
That's her opinion, I respect it, but I don't agree with it.
But her general statement...
That the Democrats are absolutely not a party for patriotic, serious people who want straight talk.
I can identify with that.
Well, you can read Lord Black's latest analysis on Ukraine.
It is upcoming in the New York Sun.
In the meantime, Lord Conrad Black can be found at ConradMBlack.com and ConradMBlack on Twitter.
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For somebody who's served in uniform, she does have some very peculiar ideas.
Look, she was a Sanders supporter.
Look, I sort of like her, you know.
She's an up-front, plain-spoken, fearless, in a non-chauvinistic way, attractive woman, you know.
She's an attractive candidate, irrespective of what sex she is.
You know, she's a bit left-wing for me, and she's got some of these slightly wingy Hawaiian ideas.
And, look, as I said, I respect her as a member of the armed forces and the one who served with distinction.
But I just don't think – I think they're making mistakes.
The administration is right, and they were right to have wanted to make sure that Russia did not just stamp out the freedom and independence of Ukraine.
We had to do what we've done, I think.
But do you think that she could play that divisive role that Perot played on the right in 1991?
I think Perot could only do it because George Bush Sr., was more vulnerable.
Well, I guess he's not more vulnerable than Biden.
Yeah, I think she might.
I was going to say Ross Perot was an extremely wealthy man who financed himself.
She needs some backers, but she may get some backers.
I wouldn't know that.
Yeah.
Look, I have the impression that there is actually a sort of a wave coming up here.
THEIR OWNERS.
No, no, no, not at all.
If you allow me, I'll send you the link.
So the best pollster right now after What's-His-Name Rasmussen sold his company is Robert Cahilly of Trafalgar.
Oh, he's terrific.
And we had him on the show.
Trafalgar and Rasmussen are the best, too, I think.
Oh, yeah.
We had him on the show, and he explained why it could be very, very You know, bad for the Democrats.
He uses the phrase, submerged voters, that I'll allow him to explain for you.
But I can send you the video link.
These polls are attached to left-wing media or left-wing universities.
You can't trust them anyway.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll send it to you and it's definitely worth seven minutes of your time.
Good.
Good.
All right.
Yeah.
Thanks, Sebastian.
Thanks, Goran.
Bye-bye.
Great.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
titles for that one?
The Ramifications of Tulsi's Decision.
Yeah, there's this one really garbage pollster called the, uh, the Center Street Pack.
Their whole statement is like, we oppose extremists and support centrist candidates, which basically means they hate all Republicans.
Like, their whole thing is, they do polls for like the Pennsylvania race.
They have a poll in Ohio where Ryan is head by like 12 points over Judy Vance.
I'm like, get into the trash you can.
But why are you mentioning them?
Well, just because, like he said, garbage polls that are tied.
Oh, oh, okay.
And they even put an annotation saying, oh, this poll is sponsored by a group that opposes Vance.
But it still shows that he loses by 12 points.
Of course they're going to show that.
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Helen, Ohio, line one.
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yes.
I was very angered to hear that Biden is using the FBI as his private Gestapo to arrest eight Christians who staged a sit-in at an abortion clinic.
Yep.
They were singing hymns and that was all they did, but they are being charged with threatening some of the employees and for
Yeah, this is the use of the Federal Face Act that if you are in any way can be represented as impeding access to an abortion clinic, the Feds can climb down on you and can use their tactics like they did against Mark Hauk at his home.
So yeah, it is the abuse of power to stop the pro-life movement, Helen.
Yes it is, and it's just the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
This entire administration is just so out of control.
I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime, and I was shocked to find out that this is happening in America.
No, absolutely.
And we need more people like Antoinette, our dear, dear listener, who calls in every Thursday as a voice for the voiceless, who stands outside those abortion clinics in California, most recently outside the orange FBI headquarters to protest exactly these tactics.
So thank you, Helen.
Don't just get angry!
Do something about it!
Go out, have a vigil, be the person who gathers with others to be a voice for the voiceless.
Let's go to George in Columbus, Ohio.
Welcome, George.
Hey, Dr. G. How are you doing?
Not too shabby.
I say don't trust her.
You mean Tarsie Gabbard?
Yeah, absolutely not.
Why?
Explain why you don't trust her, George.
I'm from Brooklyn originally.
I could smell a skim.
She is saying everything that we want to hear today.
For the first time ever.
There is a bit of, you know, it sounds like she's trying to please a certain audience.
It's almost sarcastic.
Like, I love the way you sing in the shower, Dr. G. It's almost sarcastic how she sings.
How do you know I sing in the shower, George?
I don't know, I just figured you did.
Can I just mention, have you ever seen The Man in the High Castle?
I watched the first two seasons and I kind of lost energy.
Watch more because I think it's highly amusing that J. Edgar Hoover is the director of the Gestapo in New York City.
They squeeze him in there as Director Hoover.
Interesting.
Alright, I'll give it another try.
On your say-so, I will give it another try.
Thank you, George.
Let's go to line three.
Mark in New Jersey.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Last week, there was an illegal immigrant convicted of violent crimes in California.
Of course, released by California.
And he went on to stab eight people in Las Vegas, Nevada, killing two.
And the media has tried to ignore this doctor.
It's like a terrorist incident.
At any rate, just like they try to ignore the deaths of 300 Americans killed each day from fentanyl and other drugs that Biden and the Democrats are knowingly and deliberately allowing across our open border.
No, it's as one of our guests recently said, Mark, this administration should be arrested because they are colluding, they are complicit, they are accomplices with the cartels that have caused the deaths in the last twelve months of more than a hundred and ten thousand Americans.
That's the enormity of the situation.
More deaths, significantly more deaths Then in 10 years of the Vietnam War, in one year, and as a result of what?
As a result of the open borders.
So if you cared about human beings of any skin color, if you cared about Americans in America who are dying in their thousands, you would seal the border.
These people should be prosecuted.
They should be charged.
Starting with Alejandro Mayorkas, the Secretary of Homeland Security.
Thank you, Mark.
We'll continue your calls.
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So shake somebody's chain.
Okay.
Alright, I don't want to talk about it without images.
There have got to be great images available.
How did you get those images, Jeff, of the t-shirt?
He emailed.
Someone emailed us.
Okay.
I'm gonna send it to Eric and we can use it.
The first one's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just gonna edit it a little bit.
I wore that shirt to dinner last Sunday.
My wife was thrilled.
Did you go out in public?
Yeah.
Did you get any stares?
That's the best part about it, because you do, and they think that it's a prank.
They think you're woke, right?
Until it's up close, yeah.
Nice.
Hang on.
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We have a Ph.D.
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Ph.D.?
Yeah, pretty centered.
Okay.
That's what I would have done the first thing.
What?
The trailer you can get, but... Where is that?
Is that on YouTube, guy?
Then just let me get it.
Okay, so let's have a look at this Fody graph.
Foodie growth.
Do you have a name for the guy?
Was it in the email?
It was something weird.
Okay.
We'll just use his first name.
I'm pretty sure it was that Dave in Arizona from last week.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, he's driving a soft top as well.
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I'm sending you an image to turn into a buffer.
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Tom, welcome to America First.
Hey, Sebastian.
Hope you're doing great.
We just had a couple conversations about the abortion protesters or hymn singers or however you want to call them, and it made me think of what we need to do as a country with our moral decay.
And it came from the movie, based on the book, Eat, Pray, Love.
Let's change those three words to repent, Repent, pray, vote.
Repent, pray, vote.
I love it.
But somebody has to lead the way.
Who's going to lead the way?
Because most of our pastors and priests are afraid, Tom.
I know.
Well, we got Eric Metaxas and we got a few others.
Pastor Deffries.
We do, we do.
But it has to be a revival of the nation.
I like it.
I'm relying on people like you and me and your audience and other like-thinkers that we can spread the word to, because I am not relying on the Church.
They failed in World War II with Hitler, and human nature has not changed.
Cain killed his brother Abel.
Things have not improved.
No, human nature never changes.
That's what the left fails to understand.
Thank you, Tom.
Let's go to Long Beach, California.
Joanne.
Hey, Dr. Gorka.
Hello.
Hi, how are you?
Good.
I think the open board is about the 2030 census.
We learned in 2020 that non-citizens are counted in the census.
And blue states lost representatives and electoral college votes.
And I think this is a way to get all these people back into those sanctuary cities and states.
No, that's just part of it.
I mean, who cares about a census?
That's a one-time event.
It's not just the census.
Of course they want to distort the census and use illegals to get more seats in Congress.
It's about buying voters.
They think they can amnesty more than 30 million people and they think because they're brown or black they'll become Democrats.
It's far more cynical than just the census, Joanne.
Well, yes, but I think that regardless of how they vote, and if they never vote, they still get the representation.
Yeah, that's not, no, no, no.
The idea that the Democrats would ever use that phrase, regardless of how they vote.
Joanne, you know who these people are!
It's all about how they vote!
But thank you!
Mike, California, welcome.
Line 5.
Hello, Dr. Gorka.
I want to strongly urge everyone to get out and vote, and to vote the right way, and get their family members and friends to get out and vote, because genocide is on the ballot this November in at least three different ways.
The first way, especially in California, is Proposition 1, that the Democrats put in the ballot to amend the state constitution to allow abortion, a perfectly healthy
Preborn babies right up until birth for any reason or no reason, and that will dovetail with the Democrat program created by the Democrat supermajority in the legislature and Governor Gavin Newsom to create a program to assist women from all over the country to come to California to have their abortions and to even subsidize their travel and lodging expenses at all this taxpayer expense, at least certainly the abortion expense.
Correct.
Correct.
Yes.
The genocide's on the ballot because the Democrat Party and the Biden administration, when he was vice president under Obama, they support the Iran nuclear deal, which allows Iran to legally acquire nuclear weapons and the missiles to send them to Israel and the U.S.
And that will result in a nuclear holocaust of six million Jews in Israel, all as a result of the Democrat Party in America facilitating that and helping it happen.
What's the third one, Mike?
The third reason genocide is on the ballot is because the Democrat Party has adopted and is implementing Hitler's...
Okay.
Three-step gun control program that he used to disarm the Jews in order to facilitate sending them to the Holocaust, to the death camps.
And that is step one, to first register the guns.
Step two, enact laws, gun control laws to ban the guns.
And step three, to use the registration list to confiscate You got it.
Stay on the line.
That is a very succinct summary.
Let's give our friend Mike a signed copy of Why We Fight.
Very well put.
Multiple ways to genocide.
Genocide of those that the left disagree with.
Let's go to Mike in Detroit, line two.
Welcome, Mike.
Oh yeah, Dr. Gorka.
Yeah, I was wondering, one of your guests was talking about mental health issues, and to my mind, when I listen to these people, a lot of these people in the Democratic Party, I think they already had some serious mental health issues, and it's like the Democratic Party is like an umbrella for these people.
They reinforce each other's bad behavior, and so on.
And if you look at projection or transference or delusional, magical thinking, I mean, this just sums up their entire ideology, in a sense, you know, and you think...
Well, look, Mike, we closed down all the mental institutions in the 1970s, so maybe the DNC is the new global national mental institution.
You've got a point there.
I think it is, you know, when you listen to what's coming out there...
Think of the idea they're trying to transfer the guilt and responsibility of the Democratic Party for their evil empire slavery onto the Republicans who took 800,000 casualties, killed or seriously wounded, disabled, disfigured.
It's mind-boggling.
That is an article I think the likes of Lord Black or VDH should write, that this is actually psychological transference.
The DNC, the Democrat party, has such guilt because of slavery.
Because of the KKK, because of what they did to black Americans, that they have to project it onto Republicans, innocent Republicans today.
Remember, the first Republican president, the great emancipator, that is, of course, Lincoln.
That is your daily PSA here on America First.
Nicely done, Mike.
More of your calls in a moment.
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Dave sent a photograph of one of our products that he was wearing to an event.
Look at that.
LGBTQ.
Let's get Biden to quit.
That t-shirt looks rather good on you, Dave.
And is it true, Mr. G, that you wore your LGBTQ t-shirt in public?
Yeah, I wore it to dinner last Sunday night.
And what did your wife think?
Oh, she was thrilled.
She didn't realize I was gonna be wearing it because I was just sitting around watching football and I was meeting them for dinner so I just showed up with it.
So I know you live in a rather un-Republican area where lots of people not looking closely at your t-shirt and they thought, wow that says LGBTQ you must be so woke Mr. G. That's the best part about it until they get close up and then they get very angry.
Oh my dear, I would love to have been a fly in the... We need a Project Veritas video of people reacting to Mr. G's t-shirt.
All right, let's go to your calls.
Jeff waiting patiently.
Somewhere it says in the United States, line one.
That's a bit too specific.
Welcome, Jeff.
Afternoon, Sebastian.
I have a Mark Leonard reference for you from the old Hawaii Five-0.
It was season five.
The episode ran on February 6, 73.
It was kind of a dumb title.
It was called the...
Real Mr. Winkler, please die, deals with espionage and defected Eastern Bloc spies trying to kill each other.
I remember that episode.
Give me the quote.
Which one?
It was from Hirschhoff and Mark Lennon were facing off.
There's lots of stuff in that.
All right, but I thought you were going to give me a quote from the show.
Oh no, I can call you back and do that another time.
All right, do that, because we love it.
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Love Hawaii Five-0.
OK, before we get to our third hour, one-on-one, the truth about what's happening in Russia, what's happening in Ukraine.
Did you see the debate?
Oh my gosh, the Ohio debate with JD Vance.
The issue of pro-life and abortion.
A young girl who was raped came up, and JD Vance, the Marine, he crushed it.
Cut one!
I absolutely think the 10-year-old girl, the case that we've of course heard a lot about, an incredibly tragic situation.
I mean, look, I've got a 9-year-old baby girl at home.
I cannot imagine what that's like for the girl, for her family.
God forbid something like that would happen.
I've said repeatedly on the record that I think that that girl should be able to get an abortion if she and her family so choose to do so.
But let's talk about that case.
Because why was a 10-year-old girl You voted so many times against border wall funding, so many times for amnesty, Tim.
If you had done your job, she would have never been raped in the first place.
Do your job on border security.
The thing they never mentioned is that poor girl was raped by an illegal alien, somebody that should have never been in this state in the first place.
You voted so many times against border wall funding, so many times for amnesty, Tim.
If you had done your job, she would have never been raped in the first place.
Do your job on border security.
Don't lecture me about opinions I don't actually have.
I don't know why they were wearing exactly the same suit and exactly the same color tie That's a little bit creepy.
But Tim Ryan's face!
Guys, if you haven't seen the video, he was like, I'm sure if he'd been wearing a diaper, he would have needed to have it changed after that.
Nicely done, J.D.
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Mobilization for the first time since 1945 for Russian conscripts.
Threats of nuclear war from the Kremlin and the explosion of the Kerch Bridge linking Crimea to the Russian Federation.
What does it all mean?
Well, we've got just the guest in studio to unpack it all for us from the DIA, former intelligence officer for Russia, Rebecca Koffler.
Welcome in studio.
Thank you very much, Dr. G. Happy to be here.
I have to ask personally, when you wrote your book, Putin's Playbook, not too long ago, did you expect that you would be the center of attention almost every day because of events happening in Russia and Ukraine?
I expected the war to happen, but I did not expect myself to be the center of attention.
All right, well, we have the whole hour to discuss what's happened.
The... How shall I say this?
Less than delicate.
drumming up of nuclear threats.
The president used the phrase Armageddon at a fundraising event just a few days ago.
But let's start with the event that people still scratch their heads over, the Nord Stream 2 pipeline explosion.
We have your recent article, the five reasons why it is most likely that Russia was behind the sabotage.
First question one always has to ask, We don't have the requisite evidence from 300 feet under the Baltic Sea, but we have the question, qui bono, so who benefits from this event?
Give us a couple of your reasons as a former intelligence analyst on Russia, why it's most likely a false flag operation by Moscow.
It's my professional intelligence assessments with 99% confidence that Russia is behind this.
Putin has the capability, the doctrine, the motivation, he has demonstrated intent, and then finally he has no use in the short term of Nord Stream.
And I can go through every single one of Right, because practically it was shut down, so it's just a white elephant, it's not making him money.
On top of that, because of what I mentioned earlier, the mobilization of conscripts, massively unpopular.
The fact that he's losing territory now in Ukraine also doesn't look good.
Authoritarian regimes always find it useful to do what?
Point to the bad people outside, and now he can say, oh look, they're blowing up our pipeline.
So for me, this is the most obvious benefit, for him to say to the Russian people, look, our infrastructure is under attack.
Does that make sense to you?
Absolutely, and in fact, now that he has all but lost a conventional war in Ukraine, he is switching to a different strategy.
The Russians call it new generation warfare, where it's not necessarily kinetic, it can be, but they're not targeting to destroy specific targets.
But rather, they want to disrupt the kill chain by disabling the command and control and by targeting civilian infrastructure to put psychological pressure on the population to make their life very uncomfortable so that the people, once they had enough, They tell their government to just withdraw support from Ukraine.
So there's a specific operation based on that doctrine that was developed called Strategic Operation to Defeat Critical Infrastructure of the Adversary.
And I describe it in my book on page 14, I believe.
So we're not targeting military assets on the ground like tank columns.
We are targeting the infrastructure that makes the functioning of the state possible.
Exactly.
You nailed it.
There's transportation, communication...
Power grid, hospitals even, you name it.
And so, but guess who helped them in this to enable, to operationalize this doctrine?
Remember, a few years back, the Department of Homeland Security, in their infinite wisdom, posted on their unclassified website a list of 16 industries and facilities that fall under critical infrastructure.
Not only that, last year, remember, Joe Biden himself handed a list of targets to Putin.
Say, please don't hit these.
Exactly.
I mean, it's incomprehensible to say.
Here are our crown jewels.
Will you please not target these crown jewels?
I mean, it's the opposite of strategy.
It's like, this is the coat to my safe.
Please don't empty my safe of my treasure.
Exactly.
It may be hard for people who aren't national security wonks like Rebecca and I. If you don't believe us, I fully understand you don't believe us.
In the break, look it up.
He did that.
Biden gave the list to Putin.
This is the really important stuff.
Please don't attack it.
You can't make this stuff up.
And so, not only that, so Seb, the Russians have run proof of concept, right?
This is another one that I describe in my piece on the Fox Digital, Fox News Digital website.
They paid attention, they being the Russian military strategists and planners, to an event that actually occurred in the United States in 2001 around Baltimore, where a train that carried hazardous materials had an accident.
And what happened, there was a spill and a flood, and it completely derailed the entire transportation corridor between Baltimore and New York for hours.
But because of that, it wasn't just the train.
It was telecommunications.
It had cascading effect.
And so they scratched their head and they said, wow, it doesn't take really much for the whole system to collapse.
So that's the intent to do something like that.
Well, it's declared.
If it's part of your doctrine, then it's not a secret.
And I remember, my gosh, must have been 15 years ago, maybe 12 years ago, I think it was Estonia, a former Soviet Republic that was taken by Stalin, was the first government in the world that went completely paperless.
So they had a cyber government.
There was no printing out of, you know, agenda meetings for the cabinet.
The prime minister was very Excited that it was the first, you know, IT paperless government.
And very soon after that happened, what happened?
The system was hacked.
Now, who do we think hacked the former Soviet Republic of Estonia that hates Russia, right?
So it's not just a concept, it's something that they've practiced outside Russia.
Yes, exactly.
It's an operationalized concept.
The concept of operation is what we do back in the Pentagon.
Or probably don't do at this point, because they're paying attention to the pronouns and teaching the critical race theory.
White rage.
Right, right.
White rage at West Point.
Don't forget.
Instead of, you know, teaching our officers to win battles and to raise their combat readiness, we're paying attention to all that nonsense.
And of course, Russia, China, around North Korea, they have taken note of it.
And that's why the whole thing is unraveling right now with Kim Jong-un, You know, ratcheting up the tempo of his missile launches, you know, Putin is threatening all available means in Russia's arsenals and warning us it's not a bluff.
And so President Biden himself just went out and said, at the fundraiser, no less, oh, we're on the brink.
He admitted that his policies brought us on the verge of a nuclear Armageddon.
At least he's honest now.
Well, behind closed doors with Democrat, big Democrat donors.
Not at a press conference at the White House, but with his friends who he wants money from.
That's a little bit different.
Yeah, he wants to profit from fear mongering.
Yes.
Yes.
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You said something very interesting before we started the show, Rebecca.
You talked about, well, a juxtaposition, let's say, between the current threat environment and what's happening in Europe and what the federal government and Congress have been doing for the next six years, the last six years.
Those two things don't really match.
Explain why.
What have we been doing that doesn't really help us today?
Well, instead of really paying attention to the Russian threat or, you know, China, North Korea, the corrupt intelligence officials within the Obama administration, when current president was actually vice president, they misdirected intelligence resources to these incredible, you know, multiple investigations, investigating the phony collusion
That they themselves concocted in order to evict former President Trump from the White House.
Right, so they were focusing for four years on an aspect of Russia that didn't exist, the Russian collusion hoax.
Exactly.
Instead of discussing or examining why did he invade Crimea in 2000, you know, under the Obama administration.
Right.
And what are his capabilities?
What are his intentions?
Yes.
You know, you worked in that environment, you know, you can focus there and you sit and tracking your, you know, intelligence targets.
You read your raw intelligence, which is very, very, you know, lengthy from multiple sources.
You get your satellite pictures, you get your communication intercepts.
And then your boss runs in and says, oops, you know, we need to know what the Russians have on Trump.
And you can tell them all you want that they got nothing on Trump, but you know... But a Russian asset at the Brookings Institution.
Exactly!
He'll make stuff up and give it to Christopher Steele, who gets money from the Clinton campaign, and then the FBI gives him cover as a confidential informant, and after what, 20 months?
And I think it was 30 million spent by Robert Mueller.
Nothing.
Zero.
That's a lot of money that could have been spent analyzing, I don't know, Russian intentions in Crimea.
Exactly.
Or developing, you know, a counter-strategy.
You know, the best way to counter a nuclear threat is to never ever even allow that country to use nuclear weapons, right?
Which is deterrence.
If they already did that, that's too late.
And we always, they talk about, how do we respond?
How do we, well, how about we deter and prevent?
And they never did that.
When we were in the White House and North Korea started making noises, President Trump, you know, this is part of the mean tweets criticism.
President Trump would get on his Twitter and say, yeah, well, I'm going to destroy you.
Right.
I'm going to turn Pyongyang into a sheet of glass.
I'm going to press my little red button and my buttons bigger than your button.
And funnily enough, No ballistic missile launches across Japan.
But to say, I don't see a strategy at this point.
I don't see a response.
I mean, if somebody has nuclear weapons and says, I am going to use them, you don't say, as this administration has, I hope you don't.
And they've actually said, that would be bad.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you, Kamala.
We know a thermonuclear war would be bad.
But the point is, You've gotta deter them from even threatening it!
Am I crazy?
Have I missed something?
Exactly.
Let me tell you why the Russians never dared to invade Ukraine or anyone else during President Trump.
Right?
They feared Trump.
Putin absolutely scrambled.
All the bad guys did.
Exactly.
Here's what President Trump did do to deter.
He actually did have a deterrence strategy.
He stood up the space forces that counter Russian's old space doctrine, right?
They developed their space doctrine and stood up their space force in 2001.
Within months of the Rumsfeld Commission, Issuing a report that said our satellites could be attacked.
So, what did the Russians do?
They started developing the counter-space capability to disable our command and control, our reconnaissance, intelligence targeting capability, okay?
No one until Trump bothered, you know, to stand up Space Force.
It's stunning to think the guy who'd never been in politics was the person who created Space Force.
But not only that, Trump actually, he exited from all those agreements, right?
The Open Skies Treaty, the INF Treaty, the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty, because he understood that the Russians are violating that, so there's no point in us He authorized offensive cyber operations against Russians and other adversaries.
He ruled to wipe out the Kaspersky antivirus software that the geniuses had deployed.
Kaspersky is being owned and run by the former Russian KGB officer.
Imagine that.
He authorized a missile strike on 300 Russian mercenaries.
And that's the shocking thing.
They weren't really mercenaries.
The Wagner Group works for the Kremlin.
When they were running around Syria, destabilizing Syria, President Trump ordered Lapdog Mattis to kill them and the Defense Department killed more than 200 Russian fighters in Syria.
And the Kremlin Didn't even have a press conference about it.
That's how much they respected or feared my former boss.
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Rebecca, the Kerch Bridge explosion linking Crimea, the invaded, annexed Crimea to Russia, how significant is that?
Look, I was surprised.
That is a ballsy move.
That is a symbolic move.
It's also a strategic move.
Of course, Russia bombed a civilian target and killed maybe by now a dozen civilians in the capital, Kiev.
But that's That's not, that doesn't look good for Putin that this, what is it, 12 mile long bridge is blown up by the Ukraine.
It's pretty impressive.
Like you said, the Ukrainians have the cojones to do this sort of stuff.
Yes, it's highly significant for two reasons.
Not only it's symbolic, like you said, because it was Putin's pet project.
He himself inaugurated this.
It also disrupted a major supply route that the Russians used to continue offensive operations on Ukraine.
And so, now that is gone, Putin definitely is scratching his head.
What does he do next?
As I said, he is likely going to shift strategy, because he has lost the conventional phase of this war.
About 80,000 Russian troops were either killed or wounded.
You know, he's lost, he's fired about 4,000 missiles right now.
His weapons supply is depleting.
He's reaching out to Iranians, you know, for drones.
He's reaching out to North Koreans for artillery shells. - Sorry, allegedly, Iranian technology was involved in the attack on Kiev, the response.
It's very military assistance.
as well, that Iran is, you know, it's not just quiet assistance, it's actual military assistance.
It's very military assistance.
But again, Joe Biden is pushing all of these dictators to form their coalition of dictatorship.
You know, they are all helping each other because, you know, the policies that he is pursuing, let's take those sanctions, right?
Okay, they make Joe Biden feel good about himself.
But sanctions have backfired at us.
Sanctions really have never changed Putin's behavior since 2014.
Because they don't touch him.
They don't touch him, but also it's two separate things, you know, security concerns and economic concerns.
But also, Putin has pre-calculated what the action will be, and he sanctioned proof his economy to the extent that he could.
Or he gets help from China.
Exactly.
Banking and everything else.
Yes, but Putin fights his fight on multiple domains, right?
He has a PhD in economics.
Not many people know that.
And he also surrounded himself by Western-trained, you know, PhDs such as Elvira Nabiullina, who's trained at MIT.
So, what they've done is they de-dollarized the Russian International Reserves Fund.
They've beefed up their National Sovereign Fund.
When they de-dollarized their international reserves, they chose to use the Chinese Yuan and the European Oh my God, help me out.
The euro, the euro.
The euro and gold, okay?
But also...
That erodes, that type of policy erodes the rest of the world, the global community, non-Western communities' confidence in the U.S.
dollar going forward because there are other, you know, dictators, right?
That's why Saudi Arabia is now kind of thumbing their finger at Joe Biden.
Would they want, you know, to hold their resources in the U.S.? ?
It's creating an alternative.
It's creating an alternative to the universal currency, reserve currency, which is the dollar.
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All right, so I'm giving away the behind-the-scenes chatter before we start it.
You said something else that was fascinating as well.
You used the phrase existential threat with regards to how Putin is looking at the situation.
I see him as cunning, as evil, as ruthless, as murderous.
I don't see him as crazy.
Unpack for us what it means existential because even if he I find it hard to imagine.
Even if Ukraine takes back all the regions that have declared autonomy after occupation, even if through some miracle they take back Crimea, Russia still exists.
It's not, you know, nuclear bombs exploding in Novosibirsk and Moscow.
So when you say existential, do you mean existential to the future of Putin and his family?
Or does he really think this is the end of the world for Russia?
Both.
Really?
Yes.
So the way that the Putin regime and his intelligence services and the general staff that does long-term strategic planning and threat assessment, the way that they defined Russia's security goals, right, means that they need Ukraine As a strategic security perimeter, on which they believe they have relied for centuries.
And a source of resources.
And a source of resources, obviously.
It's a basket, the breadbasket of Europe.
And so they have concluded that regardless of who is in charge in the White House, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat, we are still going to pursue our policy to try and democratize the post-Soviet states.
Right.
We have absorbed the Baltics into NATO.
And so the distance right now between NATO forces and the two major cities in Russia, Moscow and St.
Petersburg has reduced from 1,000 miles to 100 miles.
That is shorter than between Washington and New York.
But that's only an issue if you expect NATO tanks, M1 Abrams and Leopard tanks to be rolling into St.
Petersburg.
Right.
Do they really think this is Nazi Germany?
So the way that they do threat assessments, they don't look at intent, they look at the capability.
Which is pretty stupid.
That's how they do it.
So, basically, the way that they frame it is their version of the Monroe Doctrine.
And so, in addition to that, Putin views it as a threat to himself.
He just turned 70 years old last Friday, right?
And so he staked his entire presidency on the idea of the Russian world.
You know, remember Darya Dugina, the daughter of Dugin, who is the thought leader behind the whole Eurasianism philosophy and the Russian world.
Who was an influence on Putin, not so much today, but was an influence.
Was, like some people call them Putin's brain.
And so, Under that doctrine, all of the Russian people all over the post-Soviet space will integrate under a supranational alliance, not unlike the former USSR.
And Ukraine, obviously, is a big part of it.
Well, imagine Ukraine fully severs the ties with Russia and joins the West all the way to NATO.
not only that whole idea collapses, his whole legacy.
And he wants himself to be, he deems himself as a Catherine the Great, or Peter the Great, right?
He wants to leave his legacy as a modern Tsar. - But right now his legacy-- - Now that whole thing collapses. - But right now his legacy is, you know, he had $200,000, He's at the casino and he puts all his chips on the wrong roulette number and he spins it and he loses.
I mean, he put his whole reputation, as Mark Milley said, on capturing Kiev in 72 hours.
And we're what, nine months later and the Ukrainians are recapturing territory from Russian invaders.
So, his master plan is not going too well?
No, it's not.
But nevertheless, he's not going to give up.
Because when he is cornered, he just can't accept defeat.
Basically, his psychological profile is such.
Unlike, let's say, somebody like Saddam Hussein, who hid himself, curled up in a corner there.
Putin's psychological profile is that he fights back.
And so he decided that he's gonna risk, you know, intervention of NATO and the United States by brandishing his nuclear weapon and possibly even using a low-yield tactical, you know, in the theater, not in the United States.
It's very important to understand because Biden scared a lot of people.
This is the huge issue.
The tactical versus the strategic.
So when he says, use nukes, this isn't bombing Washington.
No.
Which is, like, I can't tell you, Dr. Gorga, how many people have asked me, Americans, you know, when we're gonna, like, have Russia bombing us, and when they can find iodine pills, and I have to constantly, like, undo Calm them down.
- They'll calm them down. - They'll calm them down.
- Right. - They'll calm them down, said, no, no, no, this is in the theater, this is not, not that it's a good thing, God bless Ukrainians, we'll pray for them, but it could also be in the Black Sea without any specific target as something that's called a demonstration strike-- - Of force, right. - To demonstrate that he is willing to climb that escalation ladder.
And the frightening thing about this, Seb, is that we did not develop a de-escalation strategy.
All those resources that were misused, as we just talked about, they did not... Biden does not really have a plan.
Well, this is the absurdity.
You've written the book You know Putin's game plan or you know Putin's playbook and as somebody who served in the administration of a president I see no game plan.
I see no playbook for his successor, the current incumbent.
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All right, so let's look at – I saw that recent – I mean, God bless him.
I mean, he's well-meaning with all his Starlink internet access for Ukrainians.
But Elon Musk's recent tweets about how, I like Ukraine, but I think nuclear war is worse.
Not very helpful, not very strategic analysis, Elon, but thank you.
What are the possible scenarios?
People talk of off-ramps.
I don't see obvious off-ramps for Putin.
I see off-ramps for Ukraine.
So, we have a trend in the region, Central and Eastern Europe, of frozen conflicts.
Transnistria, Moldova, south of Setia, Georgia.
What is the most likely scenario for you as somebody who's dealt with this for years inside the intelligence community?
Is it Ukraine and the breakaway occupied regions becoming just another frozen conflict or is it something else?
So right now, I don't really see any kind of compromise based on my analysis of the three of these key leaders' posture.
You know, President Biden basically told the American people that He has going to maintain that spigot open, providing billions of dollars, he said, for months and years, right?
And Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said, we're going to do it until we degrade Russian military and weaken its economy so that Putin never does it again.
Well, that's going to take a long time and it might, you know, lead us into a very dangerous catastrophic situation.
Zelensky, the way that he defined victory is that only when the entire Russian army will be expelled out of Ukraine.
Out of all of Ukraine.
Every single one, including Crimea, which Putin annexed back in 2014.
So that's not a viable concept of victory either.
And Putin, of course, we already talked about it.
He's caught in a checkmate here now that he's lost, that he drove himself into by attacking Ukraine.
And so there's no resolution that I see in the short term.
In the long term, if there's an adult in the room, the way that we had one back during the Cuban Missile Crisis, when the U.S. president, you know...
Right, but Biden's not gonna do a naval blockade like Kennedy did.
de-escalated the situation, got to the table, and made things happen.
Trump would do that, right?
Right, but Biden's not going to do a naval blockade like Kennedy did.
It's not happening.
So until then, I just don't see.
Maybe in the long term, I think what the Russians are looking for, my intelligence assessment is that they're looking to split Ukraine just in the same model as North Korea and South Korea, where they maintain those...
For annex territories that Russians don't even control at this point.
But the reason why he annexed them is he's clearing the requirement, the Triennale requirement to be able to have the option of using nuclear weapons.
I think the answer is obvious.
Nothing really good until A certain man I know gets back into the White House.
In the meantime, we have finished for the day.
That is far too short, but we've got to get her back in studio.