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Welcome, dear friends.
Yes, indeed.
America First across the nation on the Salem Media Network with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist, former deputy assistant to the 45th and, God willing, the 47th President of the United States.
We have a very special first hour.
Sorry, guys, no monologue.
You'll have to wait a little later for that one.
But we've got some in-studio guests who are visiting the malodorous swamp that is Washington, D.C.
With a very special mission in mind.
You know they say truth is stranger than fiction.
Well when it comes to the first family, the current one, it couldn't be more true than that.
Hunter Biden!
Prostitutes!
Crack!
Chinese chief spies!
That's a perfect idea for a movie, is it not?
A movie that has now been made.
And in studio we have the director, the most scary Bond villain ever, Robert Darvey, and the man distributing the movie from that conservative powerhouse, It is Alex Marlowe of Breitbart.
Gentlemen, welcome in studio.
Great to be here with you.
Unbelievable intro.
You are something.
Invoice is in the mail.
It's in your inbox right now.
So I'm going to start with this, dude.
I mean, did you just have serious FOMO that you were being left out of the conservative movie making business that now Breitbart is distributing Robert's new movie?
How did that happen?
The short answer is yes.
The more interesting answer is this was always something we've wanted to do and we just needed to get that initial product, that first film that just hit us in all the sweet spots.
And this one did because Robert, first of all, has been writing for Breitbart since 2009.
He was friends with Andrew Brighton.
Sending me his articles on Twitter and texting them every week.
But then we saw the movie, and the movie did two things that were truly special, I thought.
First of all, it is uproariously funny.
It's one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time.
But it also layers in fact after fact after fact about the Biden family.
The things we know to be true from the laptop and everything else.
Absolutely.
So it's got this incredible energy to it.
It's essentially a dark comedy, but maybe it's a lighter drama.
I mean, you can't categorize it.
But what it is, is it's Hollywood.
It's got that aesthetic.
It's entertaining first and conservative second.
It's a conservative movie, yeah, sure.
But if you show it- But it's a good story first, which is what Hollywood has forgotten, right, Robert?
You've got to make a good story.
And if you've got a message, that's okay, but you don't bang people over the head.
So give us the story.
Where did this movie come from?
How did you get involved?
Who's in it?
All right.
Well, first off, I got a call from my manager, and he said, they want you to direct a film called My Son Hunter.
I go, hmm.
Now, don't forget, this is back in April of a year ago.
OK.
And it hadn't come out by The New York Times, you know, but I've been watching and listening to you and hearing about My Son Hunter and other people that have reported about it, Giuliani and John and so many different people.
And it was frustrating to me to see That the American people saw an insurrection with President Trump for how many years?
A real coup.
A real coup with Pelosi and Schiff and Schumer and nothing there and now this is something and everyone's ignoring it.
So this anger or this frustration was brewing in me that no one was telling the story.
Unreported Story Society sent me the script.
I read it.
I thought about it and I was frustrated with a lot of filmmaking from conservatives.
They were all well-meaning, but as Andrew Breitbart and I, and everyone knows about Breitbart, talked about, politics is downstream from culture.
So, what does that mean?
It's meaning you've got to put a message in the ravioli.
You don't make the message the ravioli.
The message is in the ravioli.
And the ravioli's got to taste good!
And it's got to taste delicious and made by the right people.
The sauce has to be good.
All those elements, all the ingredients.
So this is where I said, okay, I can do this.
I saw a way into it.
I worked on the script with the producers and the writer.
And then we went to Serbia and cast the film.
We had Lawrence Fox.
I would talk about who got attached because you got some great, great names.
Yes.
Lawrence Fox, great English actor.
From the legendary Fox family.
James Fox, Ed Fox, David Jackal.
James Fox did David Lean movies, you know?
I mean, come on.
And then you have... Gina.
Gina Guarana, who plays a Secret Service agent.
She's been cancelled because of Mandalorian and everything else, but she's... I call her the modern-day Lauren Bacall in her way.
I love her movies.
Absolutely great.
And then we have John James, who plays Joe Biden.
And John plays a terrific part.
I didn't want to play Joe Biden.
See, I think part of his addleness is an act.
I think part of it is to gather sympathy.
And part of it is real, Robert.
Part of it is very genuine.
It's part real and part something manipulation.
I think it's part manipulation because what happens is people say that you can't attack it.
Right.
Meanwhile, that message comes out.
He's a nice old man.
Exactly.
Well, if you play the doddering old man, it's hard to see.
Well, actually, he's a fascist who's raiding President Trump's home.
Why Serbia?
Well, Serbia, first off, we needed some place.
Well, there's two other cast members.
Go ahead.
There's a young girl who's 25 years old.
The story is told through her eyes.
She's Emma Goyovic, who I found in Serbia.
She's English and Serbian.
Beautiful young actress, like a Michelle Pfeiffer.
And she plays a stripper who's really a left-wing activist and is stripping to make her college education payment.
And she has a relationship with Hunter, and through that, The bouncer of the piece is played by Franklin Ayodele, who is a soccer player, a big soccer player from Nigeria.
And he basically says, yeah, Kitty, I'm the black face of white supremacy, as she starts to show him How to find information when she finds out that Hunter is related to Joe Biden.
And now you unfold the story through these elements.
And what is it in terms of genre?
Because we have Alex saying it's hilarious.
So if we had to put it in a box... The Wolf of Wall Street and American Hustle.
The David O. Russell film, American Hustle.
Those two films, I said to the British, I'll do this if we can make it like this.
And this is kind of the style of the piece.
American Hustle, which was the FBI sting on App Scam.
So what's the plan now?
Yeah, Serbia.
Why Serbia?
But and the Wolf of Wall Street.
So what's the plan?
Serbia, you said Serbia.
Yeah, Serbia.
Yeah, why Serbia?
Because we needed Ukraine, Bucharest.
You needed the dealings with the Chinese.
All the shady dealings.
Exotic, all the shading dealings, yes.
You need, and scope, the picture, scope with the picture.
And this is all dramatized in the film.
So what's the plan now?
Bright Bats distributing September 7th for the launch.
What's the mechanics?
How do people get to see it?
It's super easy.
MySunHunter.com.
That's the one-stop shop.
That's how you get it.
It comes out September the 7th.
And then beyond that, just recommending it to people, sharing content about it, and trying to make a conversation about it.
Because this is the whole point here, Dr. Gorka, is that we want to make this, we want to be part of the culture.
We're not just commenting on the culture.
And Breitbart's always done a good job, relative to other conservative outlets, of being in the culture itself.
But this is a real big step, and we do want people's support.
They're gonna love this movie.
This movie is wildly entertaining.
But regardless, you gotta take a bet on this, because we need to keep creating this ecosystem of conservative content.
So this is going to be the first of many for Breitbart?
That's the plan.
But that is largely in the hands of the audience.
If the audience is there and they show up, as we highly anticipate they will, then these things will become faster and more furious the way we put them out.
So mysonhunter.com, that's all you have to do to go and show support and you'll get really entertained.
Were you trepidatious about putting your name to this or are you enough of a rebel already?
No, come on!
I played a Bond villain, darling.
Do you think I'm frightened of a little heat?
I've been getting it for decades.
You know, look, and I say this to people, and again, the people from Unreported Story and McInerney and the film McAleer and Magda, they...
The idea of culture, telling stories, bringing stories to the audience, as yourself, your book here, The War for America's Soul.
I mean, this is what we're battling.
We need cultural warriors.
We need people that are not afraid, like myself, to say, wait a minute, I'm not doing anything illegal.
I'm telling a story that should be told in a way that is artistic, is nuanced, and important.
So it's imperative that we We're gonna lose the country.
We're losing it now.
We've gotten the media.
We've got education.
You've got Hollywood.
We're gonna talk about all of that.
My Son Hunter, the movie.
Guys, you've got to watch it.
September 7th is the release.
MySonHunter.com.
We're here with the director, Robert Darvey, and the man who is the editor-in-chief, employee number one, at brightbart.com, Alex Marlow.
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No, no, that's good.
I'm fully prepared for the world to hear this statement.
I do think... No, I'm just sending you an image of Mr. Dalvey I wanted to make a bumper out of.
There is a bit of the...
Embrace toxic masculinity culture that's out there that is a little bit... it feels a little exploitive and manipulative.
Yeah, I agree.
We've got to get it back on the right track.
Yeah, exactly.
I appreciate it as a counter, as a ballast to the feminization of everything.
But there's a bit of it that feels like they're just exploiting young men who need some guidance.
And so if you can do it in an earnest way... For me, the big thing is...
You know, you look at the amazing things that Jordan Peterson has done, but we need to take it to the next level.
And it's not going to be a psychiatry professor who does that.
We've got to move it up a notch to help all those men that need assistance.
You know what somebody hasn't talked about yet?
What?
What you said about Serbia.
Now, when I was in Serbia, when Trump won, there were banners all over the city.
Really?
Did you know that?
No.
No, they came to me.
And Hunter was at the hotel.
A month before.
The other thing is this tennis player, Novak Dvorak, he said in 2020, I'm backing Trump.
This is what this is about.
This is what nobody's reporting on it, Sebastian.
This is, to me, what this is about, partly.
All right, I'm going to keep talking about the movie, going to talk about conservative culture.
Beyond the movie, anything crucial you guys need to hit in the hour?
No, just keep plugging the movie, I think it's good.
I mean, it obviously fits very well with the... And is it going to be a book as well?
Is that going to be next as well?
Somebody asked... A publisher, I have to tell the... A publisher asked for... on the making of a book.
We'll see.
Right now, that's not into the works, but... Okay.
I think just a documentary about Davi is next.
Did you get the image?
Right.
Oh.
Just talk in my ear when it's ready.
We could.
- We could, we could.
- Um, okay. - The Goonies.
- Um, I mean, shorten this down just a little.
It's a cultural phenomenon.
Yeah, it totally is.
I'm lucky to have a couple of them.
Bond, Die Hard, Goonies, Showgirls, Profiler.
What were you guys in Die Hard?
Johnson and Johnson.
Special Agent Johnson.
He's Special Agent Johnson.
I'm Special Agent Johnson.
He's Agent Johnson.
No relation.
They said, who's in charge?
It's like back in Nob!
I was in high school.
I was such a dickhead.
I'm in charge here.
Not anymore.
I was in Skyhold.
Dickhead is what he says.
So good.
So good.
We just had a screening of that in London.
Really?
I gave a concert.
Listen to this.
I gave a concert.
They just re-released the Bond film in England.
License to Kill.
So the week I was there, it was like crazy.
And then we had a screening of it.
That's it.
That's it.
They're not bad folks, folks.
I love my dad, and I just want to make him proud.
I am the one who brings in all the deals.
I am the one.
Good boy.
That's the insane thing.
It's not fiction.
It's a real story.
My Son Hunter, the movie.
We are here with the director and the distributor, Robert Dalvey, and we have from Breitbart, Alex Marlowe.
Gentlemen, let's talk about the state of the conservative culture produces.
I presume, I don't want to put anybody into a difficult position, you were part of Friends of Abe.
Perhaps.
Perhaps.
Okay, good.
Cannot confirm or deny.
What happened to that?
Why did we have to have a secret conservative group of actors and directors in Hollywood?
What happened to it?
And is that why, this is the real question, is that why it seems as if the right doesn't know how to make culture anymore?
Give us your take.
And it's a bit winded, but follow me.
Hollywood in the 1940s and 30s and 50s were infiltrated by the communists.
The Useful Idiots, you know this.
Especially the Screenwriters Guild.
The Screenwriters Guild, the agents, the readers on the studios, what projects were going to get put forward and not.
Ronald Reagan at Ida Lupino's house crashed that party because William Holden said, there's a meeting of the Communist Party at Ida Lupino's house.
She's like the Meryl Streep of the day.
They were shouting him down, and one actor, John Garfield, said he should speak.
Let's hear him speak, okay?
He did.
And years later, Sterling Hayden said Ronald Reagan was a one-man wrecking crew of the Communist Party in Hollywood.
A former Democrat.
Former Democrat.
Because he was from a bleeding-heart liberal, he saw the infiltration and what their main goal was, and it disturbed him.
He was early 40s, he was a bleeding-heart liberal, and he saw what was happening.
Now, That was communists in our government and in our culture.
Today, the patriots have to go underground.
Figure that out.
People that care about America first, how it's flip-flopped, how they're calling patriots fascists.
Well, today the president is going to give a speech allegedly calling 74 million Americans fascists.
So, you wonder why in Hollywood people have to go underground, why there's an organization like what you had said about, and you said what happened to it.
Well, it transformed itself because it was a, it wasn't a, it was so like-minded individuals in Hollywood could probably meet each other, but not use itself as a lobbying force or a unified voice.
Like the left does.
Like the left does.
See, we should have had a unified voice, but for whatever reasons they wanted to keep it under the radar, and I understand for Korea.
Korea, and it became something else, which is a great organization today, but the right does not understand how to use culture.
They don't know how to message, even on the political scene.
Well, let me ask you, because you're in the political scene, and you worked, you're employee number one for the man who gave us the phrase, politics is downstream from culture.
Why are we so bad at it?
Well, why does conservative content, you know, bang you over the head with, you know, it's the Bible, it's God, or don't you know that America's great?
Do you have an answer, Alex?
Yeah, there's a few things that come to top of mind, and this will not be a comprehensive list.
But the first thing is we're individualists, so we tend to be very competitive.
We tend to eat our own.
We don't tend to support people who are doing similar things.
This is why I'm saying that we want to create an ecosystem.
We want to create a place where other filmmakers can dive in, where other distributors can dive in.
It doesn't have to just be us.
I think we need to create a rising tide here that will raise all cultural boats.
We've never really tried to do that.
We're starting to get the picture, but this is where the other parts of my equation come into play.
First of all, I don't think there's been a lot of investment in it.
We waste all of our money on candidates, like mediocre candidates, too, for the most part, in politics.
We're not heavily invested in the culture.
We're not heavily invested in media.
And we're not really necessarily spending the best money politically when we spend it there, too.
We're kind of foolish with our money.
The left is much more directed and they're much sharper with where they're putting their R&D.
I think those are two really crucial points to start off.
And then beyond that, I do think that we just sometimes have not comprehended the idea that you have to be entertaining first.
You have to be aesthetically and stylistically talented and competent first.
And then you layer in the politics.
We've always gone the other way around.
We've always been facts first and culture second.
No, it has to be, has to look slick, look good, bring people in, compel them to watch it regardless, and then you get in your factual details and arguments.
Robert, were you always a conservative or did you have that kind of Reagan-esque transition?
Well, my family growing up, there was William Buckley Conservatives and John F. Kennedy Democrats.
Interesting.
And when I was a little kid, probably 9 and 11 years old, when JFK ran, my godfather was the head of the Democratic Party for Long Island.
And me and my friends would put in Kennedy things in the mailboxes.
And at the same time, we had relatives that were conservative, the other side.
But we always discussed these issues.
My dad was a Knight of Columbus.
He gave me two books at that age.
None Dare Call It Treason by John Storma and Masters of Deceit.
Now I can take the people that are in the middle or on the left through a sequence where I thought one of my uncles was a demonizing person because he was a conservative.
And as you get older, and as I read those books, and as I saw what was happening, I have six kids in education, in culture, taking prayer out of school, the absolute dissipation of our whole system, that frightened me.
I saw this incrementally.
And by the time Reagan came across, of course, we were, it was Reagan.
But I mean, I didn't, I didn't vote for Jimmy Carter.
It was, I always had a more conservative understanding, or let's just say a free understanding, America first understanding, which is what's hurting us today.
And was there a point at which your views started to really tangibly affect you professionally?
Can you point to a time?
Yes.
When I was invited to Al Gore, I was doing a TV series called Profiler for NBC.
Yeah.
Which was a successful show.
It was on a Saturday night.
It was a groundbreaking show.
It had ratings nobody's seen.
As a matter of fact, Les Moonves, who was the head of CBS at the time, said, we should do shows like Profiler.
Well, Profiler got canceled after four years prematurely.
But I was invited to an Al Gore fundraiser by NBC and the producers, which I said, I'm sorry, I'm for Bush.
And I think- That was it?
In some strange way, that could have been the beginning of the silent... because you're on a TV show that's getting... and I was... not to say I'm not... I was voted...
You know, I have not done an NBC show since.
Oh, there you go.
No, I don't know what that is.
There you go.
All right, but that's very strange.
Very strange.
And other projects.
I know my people say, hey, they're calling for your availability, and they're excited, and then the next thing I know it goes up the flag and somebody probably says, You know, so it's in reverse of what we said in the 50s.
Exactly.
It's a blacklist for conservatives.
You know what gets me is why do we continue to point to McCarthy?
When McCarthy was fighting traitors, communists, seditious people.
And let's be clear, HUAC didn't start by targeting communists.
If you actually know the history, HUAC was actually created to target fascist infiltration of America.
But then after World War II, the problem wasn't fascists, it was communists.
The book is my, the film, the future book maybe.
It's My Son Hunter, September 7th, mysonhunter.com.
We're here with the director, with the distributor from Breitbart, Alex Marlow, and Robert Darvey.
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Yeah.
Did it for decades, I'm telling you.
I says, until the film is done about McCarthy and the true... What happened?
Nixon, Nixon's role.
Nixon too, yeah.
But McCarthy is the biggest one because even the right... How he was the right-hand man.
Oh, in the H... Yeah.
UAC.
Yeah, he was UAC and McCarthy was his thing and the Kennedys both worked with him.
But the 99% of that, the Venona Project, you know this.
Right?
Nobody knows about that.
You talk to people about the Venona Project, they go, what?
No, 99% of the people that he fingered were communists were.
Right.
But today... Hundreds of people!
Hundreds of people!
In the State Department.
Yeah.
They're saying, and McCarthy's the bad guy.
Now there's thousands.
Well... Don't you think so?
We should push it into the Potomac.
Right?
Don't you think so?
You've been on the inside.
Because they're all communists.
The problem is they don't believe in America, and that's enough.
Yeah.
If you think America's the problem, then that's enough.
Yeah, they keep tearing us apart, and it's, uh, it's shocking to me.
And you talk to people, and that's where the GOP does not know how to message.
Because this, if they've had the time, you know, and they stabbed, you know, I mean, they treated Trump like he was the, on the Roman Senate, like Julius Caesar.
He was getting stabbed from the front, from the back, from all sides.
You know, how was this guy supposed to respond?
You know, I said, let it, let it, you know, anyway, it's crazy.
I'm going to do a PhD here.
I'm going to flip it and do the, the, the vest and then the Mustang.
Vest and the Mustang.
You got it.
Your mind's always going Alex.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
The wizard chief is always working.
Magnum is always going.
He's always thinking.
Yeah.
He's always thinking that.
But it's a, it's following around Robert's really interesting.
You get to learn a lot.
He knows a lot of cool people.
I bet.
From, I mean, from the, the, from the American canon.
I took, when I worked for the Defense Department, we took our officers to a visit to PACOM on Hawaii.
I'd never been.
And we had half a day left.
Which island is that on?
Sorry?
Which island is that?
Maine Island.
Okay.
And before we had to fly back after about a week there, I said, I'm on Hawaii.
I've got to go see Thomas Magnum's house.
So I googled it.
I rented a scooter.
And in Hawaii the law is you can't have a private beach.
So the beach has to be public access even if the home is there.
So I found it.
I drove the other side of the island.
Got there.
And you know at the beginning when he's holding the woman and they're swimming in the little bay?
I was swimming.
I took selfies of myself in Magnum's Bay.
Before that bastard Obama bought the house and bulldozed it.
Is that true?
Last year.
He bought Magnum's house.
Bulldozed it.
You know what no one talks about?
I didn't know that!
He just torments us.
I know!
You know what he did?
The renaming of Mount Denali.
Of Mount McKinley.
When he did that, I wrote an article.
I said, this is the beginning of something.
Pay attention.
Mount McKinley.
McKinley was an abolitionist.
He was against slavery.
He did the gold, what he did for Africa.
And now Obama stripped the name of Mount McKinley.
ISIS next is going to be Jefferson, Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln.
President Trump won't.
30 seconds.
President Trump won't.
President Trump won't.
He's a great guy.
He's been with me from the beginning.
Listen to him.
We all learn.
That's very kind, Mr. Trump, President Trump.
And Alex, I see what you did there with that Bond intro music.
Very sneaky, very apropos.
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We're here to talk about the movie, My Son Hunter.
MySonHunter.com.
But with your permission, will you indulge me, Mr. Editor-in-Chief?
Can I geek out with Robert for a second?
Oh, my pleasure.
Because we have a legendary character here from Tinseltown, as was the good Tinseltown.
So whether it's Die Hard, whether it's the Goonies, or whether it's perhaps the most believable and creepy Bond villain ever.
Let's just put Sanchez and his little pet up on the screen.
Here we have Robert Darby from License to Kill.
Let me just ask you, Why do you think he's the scariest one of the Bond villains?
The most seductive.
The most believable.
The sexiest!
Well, he did have a little bit of... Him and the iguana had a wonderful affair.
No, actually, when we were doing the film, Timothy and I and the director, and Cubby Brockley also... Well, Timothy and I discussed Casino Royale.
And Ian Fleming's initial conversation about Bond and the villain being mirror images of each other.
So much so that I said, this is going to be very interesting, I'm going to play him.
So that's how you played him, mirroring Double Seven.
And he played him mirroring the villain.
Fascinating.
That's because Bond had some, he did some vicious things in that film, the most believable.
I called Timothy the father of Daniel Craig.
Can I ask you, Timothy didn't look like he had fun.
He looked a bit stressed in his movies, like he was out of his skin, because he was a classical Shakespearean actor.
What was he like on set?
Tim is a great guy, great actor.
You know, he had the bristling energy of someone that was under that kind of pressure.
That was what he may not have had or embraced initially, because there was conversations, because this was at a time when They were discussing Bond being a misogynist.
And there was a resistance to that fun and the joie de vivre of the Bond.
Well, they made him monogamous in his first movie, right?
The Living Daylights.
They tried to rewrite Bond.
Did you have fun?
Because I think that movie...
The truck explosion, the truck stunts were like nothing we'd ever seen before.
Was it fun?
Oh yeah, and that's all real.
Yes!
No CGI!
When they screen that now, audiences gasp because there's no CGI.
The Julian Brothers, the French driving team, did this.
We shot that in Mexicali.
And when one of the things went up, there was an actual image.
The National Enquirer ran it like a ghost image or a devil image.
Yes, in the flames.
In the flames.
But we had a blast.
We had a lot of fun.
We shot in Palanco, Mexico City, Cuernavaca.
Well, that temple was a real place, right?
Yes, that was a real place.
They did put a CGI lid on the thing that made it come like that, but that was where Wayne Newton had his foundation, and you could call in and fuck you how many kilos you wanted.
I have to ask also, for you, who's your favorite Bond outside of Timothy?
Oh, Sean.
Oh, good.
You mean this guy up here?
That guy there.
Yeah, Sean.
Come on.
He was everyone's bond.
And he had it all.
He had the danger.
He had the charm.
He had the sexuality.
He had the masculinity.
You know, I was asked, when we were casting the girl, they wanted me to pick my girlfriend in the film, Lupe.
Yeah.
And I thought this would be a story I'd tell my kids.
And everybody goes, yeah, he's full of baloney.
And, uh, so they asked me to be Bond.
And I had 17 actresses and models around the world that I... Bond.
James Bond.
And I was thinner, as you could see, and I had the tuxedo.
And at the end of the tests, Cubby and John are looking at all these tests, and they go, you know, Robert would make a very interesting Bond.
So for the readings, you... For the tests, for those girls, I played Bond.
While you were testing the girls?
For my girlfriend, to see the chemistry.
So it could have been you.
You could have been the next Daniel Craig.
No, no, no, no.
And Cubby said, many true things are said and judged, but I thought this would be like something I say and people go, he's fooling.
But John Glenn, on the DVD, tells this story.
I love the makings of.
It's my favorite.
Who should be the next one?
Idris Elba.
I think Idris Elba would be a superb.
My vote is for our man Idris.
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I wasn't really interested because I'm a sweet tooth and I like a lazy buster.
And then Katie, my wife, said... And you're sweet-toothing like what?
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Lazy bastard.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Well, I see myself as... My wife thinks it's paranoid.
You're so high-energy.
Well, I don't know.
He's talking about going to the gym five times a week.
Right, that kind of thing.
That's what he means.
Maybe it's not lazy syndrome.
I don't know.
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For two people?
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And then you cook dinner.
Lucky son of a...
And you've got to keep within the guidelines.
Oh, you cook dinner.
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I even did it.
One minute.
In the 80s, you would, 500, whatever it was at that time, 500 a month maybe.
And it was just like Atkins?
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And the meals would come and they would eat this portion a few times a day.
And it was low carb, like the Atkins.
Like the keto.
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Let's stay on that movie theme that we've been talking about for 45 minutes.
It's a classic.
I can watch this movie again and again and again.
Not just that Christmas.
This, I believe, is Cut 11.
Play Cut.
How you doing, man?
I'm Agent Johnson, Mr. Special Agent Johnson.
Oh, how you doing?
No relation.
I'm, uh... I'm Dwayne Robinson, LAPD.
I'm in charge here.
Not anymore.
Oh, what a perfect delivery.
A special agent Johnson & Johnson, no relation at all from Die Hard.
I think I'm going to have to go home and watch it tonight because I don't have that screener yet for my son Hunter.
Yeah, see I did it!
Good, good.
I'll check my inbox.
I gotta tell you a funny story about this.
About that?
About Die Hard.
Well, I have a question, but go ahead.
What's a funny story about Die Hard?
The first time I saw it, I was good friends with Schwarzenegger at the time.
We had done Raw Deal together, and we used to work out.
I used to help coach him on the new films.
And coach him on working out.
What?
And you coached him on working out a little bit.
Just a little bit.
No, no.
He did that with me.
I did it with the acting.
Now, all right, there's going to be a screening.
Come on, we're going to go see Die Hard here.
It's going to be fantastic.
You know, I don't know.
So we're watching the first screening of Die Hard.
I haven't seen it yet.
And we're watching the film, and we're sitting like this.
Arnold's sitting here.
I'm over here.
And he's looking at the film.
I come on.
Not anymore.
He goes, this is fantastic.
You look great.
This is great.
This is wonderful.
Look at this.
This is fantastic.
And I'm doing this.
And he goes, yeah.
And then all of a sudden, there's the character.
Goes crazy.
goes back to Vietnam.
Yeah, it goes back to...
So Arnold is watching like this, his face is like this.
What's wrong with you, you idiot?
What are you doing?
What happened here?
What did you do, you idiot?
And I says, Arnold, it's not me.
It's the script.
What do you expect?
I'm acting, Arnie.
I'm acting.
It was like he took it personally.
You wanted to get a sniper mode.
He thought I was going to, like, take care of the day, you know?
All right.
Fabulous story.
OK.
You were playing FBI agents there back when the FBI was to be respected when it meant something.
Today, it doesn't.
Imminently, the president is going to use this new talking point of fascism as the enemy inside America, meaning 74 million Americans voted in the greatest numbers for any incumbent president.
Alex, how does that play into the popular culture war?
Into your movie?
Into my son Hunter?
I think, look, I'm in the, you're in the trenches every day but you're actually running a massive empire.
I just do this radio and I have a lot of fun.
So maybe I'm seeing it wrongly.
I think this is the biggest own goal of the left to label 74 million with the same word for the people who ran the death camps Are they that stupid?
Yeah, first of all, Dr. G, I have to say that when Robert was getting into character to play an FBI agent, he had to call Mark Zuckerberg, just as practice, and say, hey, there's some true stuff coming out, and we're gonna suppress it.
Are you with us?
And then Sam Harris to say that the left-wing conspiracy is warranted.
Yes, that's right.
So no, but just the absurdity of it, and we used to revere the FBI, we used to revere federal law enforcement.
It was something we all agreed was a great thing, and now we learned two weeks ago that what they're actually doing with their time is suppressing real news stories, and we suspected that was true.
But then we get Mark Zuckerberg to actually say it on camera with Joe Rogan.
And then suppress coverage of it on his platform, which is the biggest social media platform when it comes to news distribution in the world.
All of that happened, and then we're, unless aside from me and you keeping the story alive, it's gone away, which is very frightening.
But it is, where we are at with the culture right now is, we couldn't have timed this any better.
And I don't know if Robert's got a sixth sense or something, but this film wrapped up and is ready for distribution right as this is coming out with Facebook and the FBI.
Right as we come into the election.
Joe Biden, who is apparently going to suggest that half the country or a third of the country, whatever it is, what is in his mind, are fascists.
If that's what he's going to do, I don't see how it could possibly work.
If Hillary Clinton hadn't called all of us a basket of deplorables and irredeemables, or okay, I'm sorry, half of us, deplorables and irredeemables.
But that's ultramagor on top from Biden.
So, but the one thing that I always try to do, and this is my counterculture sense kicks in and my anti-tribal sense kicks in, I'm wondering what he knows and what his handlers know that we don't.
Is he getting polling that his base is going to stay home in November and he needs to get them out?
And if he comes out and says, and he's lost all of us.
He's never tried for unity.
He can't pass a single piece of legislation with a single Republican vote in it.
Maybe he's been told that if he comes out and demonizes the normal people, that some of the far-left people, the type of people who want to do genital mutilation and chemical castration of children, maybe those people who might not be satisfied with him, they might think he's not sufficiently left-wing enough, maybe he thinks he can get more of them to come out to the polls in November with this messaging.
Do you think he's overplaying his hand?
Because I don't think he's in touch with the reality.
I think these people are in a Kevlar-clad stainless steel echo chamber.
Hollywood is a strange cultural influence.
And I'm sure the best and brightest of the left of Hollywood are involved with, as we know, that President Obama made a deal with Netflix.
Yeah.
We know that the Hollywood contingency of these creative people do the ads and do this.
Very smart.
The agitprop that they learned from the Marxist cultural revolution, they're applying and they know and they can stick because what they're doing is they apply to the emotion.
See, the conservatives, They don't understand how to really apply, how to, how to, how do you do that?
Jiu-Jitsu the moment.
So now we have an abortion bill that comes out like that.
Andrew did.
Yes.
Sure did.
Andrew did.
Better than anyone.
Andrew did.
And President Trump.
Yes.
And President Trump.
Fake news, right?
Yes, absolutely.
Jiu-Jitsu.
The Jiu-Jitsu.
And we're not doing that.
You don't have anybody, yourself excluded and some other great people and Breitbart, but it's not, it doesn't break through to the Well, and also it's disparate actors, right?
It's one guy here, it's a web page over there, so it's not like, you know, when I was in the White House, one hit piece, you know, lands against me at 6 a.m.
and then by the end of the day that one hit piece has been, you know, topped and tailed into four hit pieces.
That's right.
They have the ecosystem.
Matt, I could do this for hours.
Don't go anywhere.
I'm going to hold you over for one more segment.
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The left is saying that.
Why don't we have an earth force?
Why don't we take the three?
Here's how we triangulate.
Here's how conservatives are stupid.
And I've talked to them.
I says, guys, here's the solution.
Instead of Greta screaming all day long, instead of kids lying in the street, Right?
Getting ready to be, you know, run over for, you know, their belief.
Right.
Let's make a draft.
Four to six years, 18 to 21.
Let's make an earth force that learned reforestation, toxic mishaps, building the inner cities, homeless camps, new green technologies, learning new green technologies.
Then they get their education and then they get their health care.
Have you written that?
Yes, I have it.
I have it.
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I will send it to you.
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I love it.
More importantly.
Because I didn't see it as a kid growing up.
Why is Goonies such a big deal?
You want to know?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, Goonies touches...
There's a bunch of kids that are like today that are getting their homes taken away from them by big corporations.
It's the Dr. Zhivago for children.
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Let's start with you, Alex.
Why do you do what you do, and are you an optimist that we're going to win?
Yeah, you can't do what we do and not be optimistic.
I would be in the hills somewhere.
This is a very beautiful country.
I would find a nice place.
I'd figure out a way to make enough money and I'd be fine.
Why do you do what you do every single day for the American people?
I believe that this is the greatest experiment that God and man have ever collaborated to make.
Director Darvey, are you an optimist?
in the history of the world, America.
And if we lose it, there's only one way we could go.
It's down.
It's not to say that we couldn't have an okay country, but if we lose America as envisioned by our founding fathers, by the framers of the Constitution, we're going backwards.
And I've got three young kids.
Maybe I'll have more.
I want them to be able to feel the same passion for this country as I do.
And right now, if we leave it to the left, they're not going to feel that.
Yeah.
Director Darvey, are you an optimist?
Why do you do what you do?
I'm a realist.
with an idealistic I mean, this country is, as Alex said, as you believe, it's the greatest experiment.
It's a great country.
My grandparents came from Sicily and Naples, okay, as many immigrants has.
I am fearful.
I knew in 2016 that Trump was going to win.
The day he announced, I said he will win because I had a smell in the country.
I understood this.
There is something now that's happening in this nation that I'm concerned about.
And because the media, because they've had so many decades of now, and years, since probably even under Bush 2, preparing under the ground with all the bureaucrats, I'm concerned, and the media infiltration, and the youth infiltration, I'm concerned that our country, that our politicians, on the right, are also selling us out.
They are not getting a message to... We need a George Washington today!
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That was like... That was too enjoyable!
Did I get paid for that last hour?
That was... Have Robert Darvey even forgotten he was in Die Hard?
And then the new movie, My Son Hunter.
I've got to talk about the news of the day, but let's get a little bit of polling from our team that are working in the salt mines just outside of my studio.
So, Mr. G, what, like 8pm, we're going to have this speech from the senile old man in the White House?
Yeah, it's prime time, so I guess it's 8 o'clock.
And then they're going to call people who support President Trump fascists.
That's what the scuttlebutt is, right?
And a threat to democracy, which is their favorite term in the last six months.
Right.
Because we're the ones who are rioting across the nation for two years after the George Floyd killing.
So this is what I'm going to ask everybody on the team.
I want your yes or no, or whether you think it doesn't make a difference.
If President Biden... I can't say that.
If Joe Biden calls half of the American vote is fascists, what are the consequences?
Is that good for MAGA and America First?
Let's go in reverse order.
Guy, what do you think the consequence is?
Good for Republicans, good for conservatives, if they go to this extreme, or bad for us?
Yes, sir.
Currently, actually, I need to think about this question, actually.
Look at that sensible chap.
He's such a sensible chap that he's not prepared to make a... You should be a politician.
That is a very, very diplomatic answer.
We will return to you momentarily, Guy.
Let's go to the newest member of the team, Alex.
Yes or no, good or bad, labelling half of your fellow Americans as the great unifier-in-chief fascists?
Absolutely bad.
Are they trying to incite another insurrection?
Ooh!
That's a good... Wow!
Yes!
Are you trying to... Joe Biden, are you trying to incite another insurrection?
That's a very good point!
Let's go to Eric, the in-house optimist.
Eric, yes or no?
Who is this good for?
Who is this bad for?
I think this will honestly accelerate both sides.
It will definitely fire up the MAGA crowd, because of course you have their so-called commander-in-chief now calling them all fascists.
But this is definitely going to light a fire under the hard left base that wants Trump and all of his voters to be locked up.
They're going to see, oh, Biden really is fighting this evil of fascism rising today.
And Biden knows he'll get those hardcore progressives out who, up to this point, were saying, oh, he's a moderate, he's not good enough.
And I think that is his intention here, personally.
John, can I tease a reaction out of you?
I kind of agree with Eric.
I mean, that's a pretty good assessment right there.
I mean, I would say that it would be good for MAGA people because it would fire up the base.
But yeah, he's...
You know, getting those leftists fired up, that's what he's all about.
Alright, let's go to Mr. G. You've had time to think about it.
Where do you stand on the primetime speech from the senile man-in-chief?
Uh, it gets you absolutely nowhere.
You're not going to win anybody over on our side, because I don't think being called a fascist is going to make you vote for Democrats.
And out of the, well, it wasn't really 81 million, but whatever that voted for Biden, not everyone is that wild lunatic base that just hates our side and wants to see us in jail.
So you're not going to win over anybody.
Did you just question the results of the election?
Yeah, we're not on YouTube anymore, so yeah.
But those little pajama boys at NewsGuard, I'm sure they're listening, aren't they?
Oh, I forgot about NewsGuard.
They'll have another article they can add.
I broke my promise!
I said I was going to mention that little saddle putz every single day after he emailed you.
What's his name?
Samuel Howard.
Samuel Howard.
Yes, we questioned the results of the election.
You know why?
Because we're Americans and we're allowed to.
It's called freedom of speech.
Write that up.
Oh, it's weird.
Hey, Mr. G, he never responded.
I sent him two emails.
I asked him, who authorizes you to decide whether or not a news provider is unbiased?
And who do you report to?
And he refused to answer my emails.
He did email back one.
To who?
Did you not get it?
No!
He said the First Amendment is who authorizes them.
Oh!
I missed that clause in the First Amendment that says I am allowed to certify somebody else's news content.
I know I'm only an immigrant, but I missed it.
He's using the First Amendment to say that you shouldn't be able to say what you're saying.
And who are the real fascists?
Thank you, gentlemen.
Who are the real fascists?
We know who they are.
The News Guard!
And all the people that they work for at Alphabet, at Google, at Meta, at Facebook.
Yes, Samuel Howard, you are the real fascists.
All right, let's talk about the big news.
I think there's going to be a decision This afternoon I'm watching the Fox News scroll, the scrolling of the breaking news.
The magistrate has to make a decision on the special master the DOJ wants to block.
Why would the DOJ want to block an independent special master looking at the documents they raided from President Trump's home to see whether or not they actually are a big deal?
It's weird.
If you've got nothing to hide, then why would you do that?
And why should we trust you?
Because in the last six years, You've not gone after a Democrat once.
Show me one case.
Hey, let's ask NewsGuard.
Let's email NewsGuard.
Can they show us one case where the FBI went after a prominent Democrat like they did with Mike Flynn, with Steve Bannon.
I'll be on Steve Bannon's show this afternoon.
You don't want to miss the war room.
Or Peter Navarro.
Or Carter Page.
Or Paul Manafort.
Of course you can't.
Here is Lara Trump, the President's daughter-in-law, on that egregious leak from the DOJ, that stunt, that trophy photograph of the unclassified document covers spread over the floor to make it look like President Trump is this crazy man spilling secrets around his clubhouse.
Here's Lara Trump's response.
And anyone that knows my father-in-law knows he's a very neat individual.
He would never scatter documents around on a floor like that.
It looks like they knew that maybe they got a little heavy-handed with this approach.
Let's take a photo, and then let's conveniently leak it out.
Now, I think their goal was, of course, to say, look, all of these are labeled as classified documents.
Well, just because something has that label on it, Doesn't mean that's something that wasn't declassified by my father-in-law while he was still president, which he says everything he took from the Oval Office was declassified.
I can tell you.
I think I've said it on the show before.
He's, you know, such a tidy individual that even the documents, if you look at my desk, I've got papers on the studio desk here that I use during the show.
And President Trump, when he was working in the Oval Office, he'd have, you know, piles of papers neatly stacked that he'd be reading.
And when he wanted to take a photograph with a guest, we were told, hey guys, can you just move the papers just out of shot so we can have a nice photograph?
And we're supposed to believe he's got top-secret documents strewn around Mar-a-Lago on the floor on the carpet.
It's a lie.
It's a stitch-up.
It's a frame job.
But for deep staters like Mick Mulvaney, who I am ashamed.
Ashamed!
They've called a former colleague of mine, former acting chief of staff in the White House, who... Oh, Mr. G, why does a MAGA guy, why does a patriot... There's one good reason to go on CNN.
It's the reason I went on CNN when I was a deputy to the president.
What's the only good reason to go on CNN or MSNBC?
To hijack it and crush them.
The way he puts that.
Yeah, it's to hijack the show and crush them as, you know, I did with Cuomo, with Cooper and everybody else.
It's not to do what Mick Mulvaney does here and to actually be a cuckolded eunuch for that fake news company Cut5.
In the Oval Office, there were people whose specific job it was, it's called the Office of the Staff Secretary, was to make sure that documents were accounted for, that documents were cleaned up after one meeting before another, that documents would be tracked down.
There was an institutional sort of layer of protection for the President.
I have no idea if that same level of protection applied at Mar-a-Lago.
My gut instinct is that it wasn't, and there wasn't somebody who was paid.
To follow around the President, making sure all the documents were where they were supposed to be.
So, again, an educated guess.
My guess is the level of protection for documents at Mar-a-Lago didn't approach what they did in the Oval Office.
So you think you can get to attack your former employee?
Mick Mulvaney, you have no honor.
How does it feel?
I presume you have testicles between your legs, so I presume you are a male of the human species.
But how does it feel now To not be a man.
Because you're not a man.
What you did to serve a president as one of his most trusted appointees, his chief of staff in the White House, a man who did nothing but help Americans to be safe, to prosper, destroying ISIS, creating the biggest economy ever, making us a net exporter of energy.
And now?
I don't even think you get a contributorship with CNN.
So you're just dissing Your former boss, the president?
What, to get invitations to the Christmas party at CNN?
You're not a man.
You are pond scum.
You're that little scale left around the edge of the bath.
That's what you are, Mick Mulvaney.
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Or just dive in rather than put your toes in the water.
Alright, 90 seconds.
There's no incrementalism here.
That's what the left does.
No incrementalism amongst patriots.
Certainly no incrementalism in what Biden's about to say tonight, that's for sure.
Nope.
Again, they're going all in on it.
Like, I mean, we should have known that back when Biden in his first State of the Union slash the first address in 2021.
He literally said January 6th is the worst thing to happen since the Civil War.
With him, there's a 20-25% chance he says Democrats are the biggest threat.
Yes!
He could screw it up.
Yes.
At least not deliver the line correctly.
It could definitely happen.
The fact he keeps doing all these speeches in Pennsylvania, too.
Like, I'm trying to figure out what that is.
Trying to push Federman over the line, even though he doesn't come to any of the events.
Oh, show me the, um, cut.
Cut eight.
Eight.
Go ahead.
Oh, goodness.
What is wrong with demanding for an easy, safe kind of their... Wow.
I'll fix that.
But he has Sarabian on the phone now.
30 seconds.
Hey, Andy.
He's patching him through.
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Hey Seb, how are you man?
Good, good.
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Here is the White House disaster of a press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre.
Cut 10.
Play cut.
For example, the New York Times headline from this month, as right-wing rhetoric escalates, so do threats and violence.
And so these are things that we have to call out.
Again, I was talking, I can't remember who just asked me the question, I was talking about Soul of the Nation, something the president has talked about since 2017, when he wrote that article in The Atlantic.
And he's called it out then.
He called it out January 6.
He called it out Inauguration Day.
He called it out last week.
He called it out yesterday.
So there has been a consistent call out from the president about what he's seeing from an extreme part of this party, of the Republican Party.
Well, he is consistent in dividing the nation despite the fact that he promised peace and unity.
Is it going to be a massive own goal?
Let's ask one of the smartest guys I know when it comes to politics in America.
We were office mates in the White House.
He was just across from me.
He's Andy Sarabian.
Andy, welcome back to America First.
Hey, Seth, thanks so much for having me today.
Alright, so I did a little poll of our massive team here, all five of us, at the beginning of the hour, on what they expect the consequences will be for a serving president to label a large chunk of the nation with the same word that was used for the people we killed in World War II.
You are a canny, canny guy.
Is this just another instance of Utter, complete isolation from reality in a suicidal move by the DNC and the White House?
Or is there some kind of very deep, 4D Machiavellian chess that I'm missing?
Well, the first thing that I would call it is grotesque, because that's what it is.
It's grotesque.
It's divisive.
He is trying to divide people in a way that I don't think I've ever seen an American president attempt to divide people like in my lifetime.
I am almost at a loss.
To hear the press secretary defend it by saying, oh, well, the defense is, he has used this device of rhetoric and labeled half the country radical, extremist, fascist, you know, multiple times.
That's their defense.
Now, to the politics of it, look, I think two things are going on here, Seb.
One, I think you have desperation from a Democrat party that knows That with the economy tanking in the way it is, with the border wide open, with crime spiking across the country, that every major thing is working against them come November.
And this is very much a bank shot, in their estimation, to try to rally their base.
That's what this is.
This isn't about bringing people together.
This isn't even about reaching out to moderate independents Who may not love Donald Trump, but are skeptical of Joe Biden.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't kid yourselves.
What this is about is it's about energizing their, their radical left-wing anti-Far supporters on the left to make sure they're energized to turn out because we all know there's nothing the hard left likes more than calling their political, basically dehumanizing their political opponents As the scum of the earth, as fascists, as Nazis.
It's completely ridiculous.
It's disgusting.
The other thing that's going on here, Seb, is strip the election out of it.
This is clearly what the entire institutional left has been attempting to do for years now.
They want to castigate half this country.
as potential domestic terrorists, as not just people they disagree with on policy, not just people they think are wrong on policy, but dangerous people.
Because you know what?
We don't buy their left-wing agenda.
It is totally grotesque.
It takes a lot to shock me, Seb.
You know that.
I'm used to this stuff.
But I've been pretty shocked watching what's coming out of the White House lately.
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I've got to ask you this because it's a problem I try and grasp with every single day, Andy.
And maybe you can give me the answer.
Because half of America aren't fascists.
Half of America, the people they're talking about, would probably die to protect America from real fascists.
And as a result, every day, I don't know, are these people just stupid?
This is so disconnected from reality.
Are liberals just, have they just brainwashed themselves, Andy?
Well, we've got to separate two things.
Look, don't kid yourself.
The people surrounding Joe Biden are not stupid people, okay?
These are very smart political tacticians.
Who are playing a dangerous game here.
They are attempting to basically divide the country in flame tension.
It's the great irony that the guy who ran as the person who was gonna bring everyone together is going out of his way to divide people in flame tension.
That's what this is about.
And so the people around Joe Biden are not dumb.
Now, many of the people who watch Rachel Maddow every night or watch MSABC and CNN every night and lap this stuff up and believe it just because Democrat propagandists say it, they may not be the brightest bulbs, but don't kid yourself.
These are people who know what they're doing.
They know this isn't a popular issue with the majority of the country.
They know the majority of the country has somebody in their family who they disagree with politically.
Most liberals have someone in their family, someone they love, someone they care about, a friend, a mom, a dad, an uncle, an aunt, who voted for Donald Trump.
They know that just because you vote for Donald Trump or you support MAGA, that doesn't make you a bad person.
That doesn't make you a fascist.
It certainly doesn't make you a Nazi.
They know that's insane, but they're not speaking to those people.
They are speaking to the hard left activist base.
This is about energizing their base.
They're trying to create fear.
They're trying to create division.
And it's about the election coming up in two months.
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Mike's alive, Andy, on video.
Thank you, sir.
I'm going to push back, because I look at people like Granholm, I look at people like Jean-Pierre, I look at people like Buttigieg, and they're as thick as pig dung.
I mean, they're really stupid.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Some of those aren't the people making the decision.
Okay, Ron Klain looks like a fat pudding boy to me.
I mean, what evidence do you have that he's smart?
He's no Axelrod.
I agree that he's no Axelrod.
But I think we underestimate The left at our own peril.
And these are deeply cynical people.
No, I get that.
I get that.
Cynical, you know, diabolical.
But at the end of the day, when you think keeping the border open isn't going to have massive blowback for not just the nation, but for your party, you really are stupid, aren't you, Andy?
Yeah, but see, you're right about that.
But what you're missing with that comment is They don't care.
They know that.
But what they really care about is bringing millions of illegal immigrants into the country to one day legalize them.
The left does not think in the short term.
OK?
They think in the long term.
They're thinking 10 years down the road.
So they're not thinking about the immediate political consequences of this.
They're not thinking about the immediate political consequences of giving $80 billion to the IRS.
They're thinking about the long-term benefits to their own political power when it comes to doing those things.
But really, it's a short-term benefit, because even with an open border, at the end of the day, more Americans are going to get pissed than the votes they think they're going to buy from Hispanics.
I mean, really.
They're not strategists.
They're not strategic thinkers.
They're cynical political actors.
I'm comfortable with that.
I don't think I'd push back on cynical political actors, but they don't stink in the short term.
They do stink in the long term.
Maybe they don't stink it all the way through.
But not like a Bannon does.
Well, no.
They're not thinking in a 360 degree way, 100 yards down the field like Bannon, but they are thinking 50 yards down the field.
Whereas a lot of us engaged in a day-to-day political battle have no choice but to just focus on what's right in front of our face.
So Oz is going to play nice with MAGA people now, is that right?
I mean, look, John Fetterman is a disaster.
Yeah, but is Oz going to come on my show?
I think so.
Good.
I think so.
I hope so.
He should.
Tell his guys to stop playing, you know, cutesy, all right?
They got a, they got a, I think they got a new, some new folks over there.
So.
How are you doing?
I'm doing well, man.
I'm doing well.
We're just, We're fighting in Ohio.
We're feeling good.
We're fighting in a few other places.
I'm not buying this whole counter-narrative that we're not going to have a good November.
I think our people are going to turn out.
We'll talk about that next.
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They say you shouldn't talk about this on national radio.
I disagree, because every single one of these is fascinating.
This is the latest brain fart from Mr. Aneurysm.
This is John Fetterman.
I mean, this guy, his brain, it's fried.
Cut eight.
Play cut.
What is wrong with demanding for An easy, safe kind of their income.
A path to a safe place for them to win.
Excuse me, to work.
I mean, sorry, that guy should be in an institution somewhere being helped by medical professionals.
Talk to us about the latest talking point, Andy, that, oh no, the tide is turning, it's not going to be a Republican wave.
This is just classic Democrat talking points that just demobilize our side, correct?
You just nailed it.
They do this every cycle where it looks like Republicans are going to have a good year.
They did it in 2014.
They did it in 2016.
Whenever it looks like Republicans are going to have a good electoral year, you'll start seeing in the summer a bunch of polls that don't look so good.
You start seeing the media harping on, oh, Republicans are going to lose because they don't want our side energized.
They don't want us turning out.
And look, you just played that clip of John Fetterman.
And let me be clear, this isn't about being mean.
This isn't anyone picking on him for his health issues.
I think everyone can feel bad for someone who went through a stroke.
At the same time, he's running for US Senator, and he's not being honest with the voters about his condition.
And that's the problem.
If he is not up to debate, Then he should at least man up and tell the voters that he's not physically up to it.
And look, we've now gone through two years of having a president of the United States who isn't physically or mentally up for the job, and we've seen the consequences of that.
We can't let that happen in Pennsylvania in the Senate.
And my Lord, even Joe Biden wasn't ducking debates.
Even Joe Biden was with it enough to debate.
So my lord, if this man, if this man can't debate, then he certainly can't represent the people of Pennsylvania.
Alright, last question, most important one that vexes me every single day.
You know me, I'm MAGA, you are totally MAGA, you were Tea Party before there was a Tea Party.
We've got so many candidates out there crushing it.
President Trump's record is, you know, 190 to three or something stupid.
But it doesn't change the leadership.
Even if we have a massive victory, the leadership still isn't MAGA.
Can we put enough pressure on the Kevin McCarthy's of this world to actually act in America's interests if we win?
I mean, look, I think in much of the leadership, particularly on the House side, things have gotten a lot better than they were when I first started getting involved in politics.
When Paul Ryan and John Boehner have been running things.
I gotta say, Kevin McCarthy, unlike maybe some others on the Senate side, Does work very closely with President Trump, doesn't run away from him, and I think that's a good thing.
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Is the tide really turning or something like that?
No, no.
Biden's fascism tactic.
Fascism in quotes?
Yeah.
Will it work?
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Will it work?
Tactic.
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Will it work?
Keep forgetting we're already in the month of September now.
Mm-hmm.
We have a couple more weeks before voters really start paying attention, and that's when polls, you know, hopefully should be more on our side.
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But who's going to fund this?
And by the way, according to the New York Federal Reserve, it'll be approximately $321 billion that it will take to fund this effort.
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You're going to have increased inflation.
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Yeah, this is one of those days that definitely feels like it went a lot faster.
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It's like two different days.
Like yesterday, it was just jam-packed with guests, like different guests.
And then today, of course, because one hour is dedicated entirely to two guests in particular, it feels like it went by faster with a little less of the zaniness.
Um, and then... Oh yeah, 5.15.
Yes, for Bannon.
They don't send topics, right?
Uh, no.
Although I can take a wild guess as to what tonight's topic will be about.
Yeah.
Just a hunch.
Uh, yes, out of this studio again, John.
Yep.
That's pretty much the plan for every Thursday now.
Oh, can you play me the other Fetterman thing?
The, um... Oh, him complaining?
Yeah, this one.
Go ahead, guy.
Can you even imagine that if you had a doctor that was mocking your illness?
Or ridiculing that?
Well here we are!
Here we are right now.
I would like to think that Dr. Oz may have really lost his way if you're going to make fun of somebody that had a stroke.
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Governor Abbott, he's not just sending illegal immigrants to New York, he's now sending them to Chicago.
This is going to be rather entertaining.
I'd love to be, somebody needs to go, let's get Newsmax or Breitbart has to go to Texas, and I'm curious how, what's the genesis of these trips by bus?
Do they say, where do they go?
Do they go to outside the DHS centers that are giving them their Obama phones, as was, and their plane tickets, and say, Would you like to go to Manhattan?
Would you like to go to the Windy City, Chicago?
We'll give you a free bus ride!
I'd love to see that footage.
Something less edifying.
Do you shop at Kroger's?
Are you in a state that has Kroger's?
Kroger's, this is from Breitbart.com, has gone uber woke.
Super woke.
The Kroger company, the supermarket giant, has published an allyship guide that tells employees to, quote, use inclusive language.
Celebrate transgender holidays.
What is a transgender holiday?
I mean, sorry?
And even support an organization that bails violent criminals out of prison.
This is in a Kroger employee handbook.
The allyship guide intended for employees was published last year and split into different sections entitled LGBTQ+.
What the hell has that got to do with groceries?
What has that got to do with groceries?
What you do with your sexual organs?
Second part, Asian-American Pacific Islander, African-American chapter, and Hispanic heritage.
Man, if we don't boycott Kroger into the ground.
The guide says that allies should, quote, lead by example and prove to be fierce advocates and defines the term as anyone who publicly declares support for and advocates on behalf of LGBT rights.
Hey, Mr. G, shouldn't we start a heterosexual white guy's allyship movement?
Wait, what's the holidays?
You have to come up with holidays?
No holidays, because we work for a stinking living!
What do you think?
Why not?
These guys are out of control.
Please, please guys, if you live near a Kroger's, send them a little note.
You're done.
You're toast.
I've had it with you.
I'm gonna get my food, my groceries elsewhere.
It's all part of the transgender extremism.
Our next guest is a warrior in that fight.
Chris Elston.
Billboard Chris.
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Welcome back to the Manhood Hour on America First, our first ever episode with the author of The Terminal List, former SEAL, Jack Carr.
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If you knew anything about the trans movement, you would understand that they don't sterilize people.
Oh, really?
You are an idiot.
And until you go and educate yourself, you have absolutely no reason to be here right now.
Is it fun to bully children?
Am I bullying children?
Yes!
You are literally here to bully children right now.
You don't think words on a sign is bullying children?
Yes!
It is!
Look at this pathetic man that's wasting his life doing this.
Changing the biological gender of a child...
Is impossible.
But what they do to them physically and with chemicals, that doesn't make them sterile at all.
And words on a billboard are bullying.
Welcome to the wonderful world of the left.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First one-on-one with a very special guest in studio.
We're delighted to have him with us.
He's known as the billboard Chris.
He is Chris Elston.
And I need to ask you, Chris, Are you a bully?
If standing up for children and speaking out against the sterilization and maiming of children makes me a bully, I'll gladly accept the label.
So that video was people engaging you in what you do and I just want to say from the outset God bless you for doing what you do.
You go into the lion's den with a billboard with statements of truth of immutable undeniable truth And you take the slings and arrows.
Let's start by finding out where was that?
Who are those people saying that removing a child's breasts, a pubescent girl's breasts, and giving Lupron, the chemical castrating drug, to a young boy doesn't make them sterile?
Who were those people?
So that was in Burnaby, British Columbia, which is a suburb of Vancouver.
That was at their Pride Festival.
And I've been going to some of these because these aren't celebrations of gay rights and loving who you want to love anymore.
These are essentially celebrations of mutilating and sterilizing children.
And so we need to be able to have conversations and a lot of the gay community backs me on this.
A lot of the gays and lesbians are not even welcome at these festivals anymore.
This is the latest development.
We'll talk about that because that's absolutely fascinating that the, what we call it, the first wave of homosexual rights activists are being pilloried by the transgender extremists and there's this fracture growing between them which is a fascinating development.
But first things first, Give me some examples of what's on the billboards that you are carrying to these events.
Sure.
My main message is children cannot consent to puberty blockers.
These are drugs that stop their bodies from going into puberty.
With the logic that if you're a 14-year-old young girl, if you're a 15-year-old young boy, raging hormones, that time of life we've all been through, consent just simply does not apply to somebody who hasn't reached majority age.
And as a result, the idea that a child can knowingly say, yes, I understand the consequences of having my breast cut off or being castrated as a boy, is impossible.
Yes, and never mind the 14 and 15 year olds.
They're giving these to 9 and 10 year olds.
Tanner Stage 2 is the beginning phase of puberty, and that's when the Endocrine Society and the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends this.
So these children literally believe that a big fat man travels at lightning speed across the sky, like Matt Walsh said, comes down their chimney and leaves a presence.
In his movie, What is a Woman?
So here's the analogy he made, that in front of a doctor who performs these transgender operations, which are nothing, they are mutilation, they're nothing to do with transitioning, This is being done to children who are knowingly deciding at the same time that they believe in Santa Claus.
Yes, blocking puberty at 9 or 10 years old, cutting off the breasts of girls as young as 12 years old has happened.
It happened at a Kaiser Permanente in Oakland, California.
We have Kellen Lackhart on video admitting to it.
We'll talk about what's going on in California.
So tell your story.
I'm getting really angry right now.
I couldn't do what you do.
You know, within 60 seconds, I'd be arrested for assault with these people who are Promoting the mutilation of children.
So, again, I commend you for what you do, Chris.
Why are you doing it?
Who is Chris Elston?
What did you do in a past life?
And why did you make this choice?
So, I'm literally nobody.
I'm just a dad living out in the suburbs.
In Canada?
Yeah.
Dad of two girls.
When I started this, my girls were 8 and 10 years old.
10 and 12 now.
And I learned about this child abuse going on.
Is it something that you learned about from America or Canada?
What was the trigger for you?
When did you begin to understand the enormity of what's happening?
Just from some people I followed on Twitter, they started talking about this and I said, what's going on?
And I think the first time I saw the term puberty blockers was 2019.
And I said, puberty blockers?
What the heck are those?
So I looked them up and they're exactly what they sound like.
And as a dad of girls entering into that age of life and learning that this is A social contagion affecting tens of thousands of girls especially.
It's increasing boys as well.
But this is really hitting the girls.
I wanted to learn all about it so I could protect my own kids.
And the more I learned, the worse this gets.
And I cannot believe we live in a society like this.
And I refuse to live in a society like this.
So I'm just doing what I can.
All I could do as a man with no platform or anything was to go outside and start talking to people.
And traditionally, people in a sandwich board maybe aren't the most dependable folks in the world.
But it's all I could do.
And I knew if I kept going day after day, hour after hour, that this would grow into something.
And here I am getting to talk to you today.
So it's working.
The phrase you use, social contagion, I've heard before.
I had Dr. Miriam Grossman on the show, who is one of the brave doctors.
Talking out against this absolute child abuse.
She was interviewed on Matt Walsh's film as well, and I asked her when I was a kid, so I'm 52 years old, but when I was a kid in the 80s, in the 70s and 80s, bulimia was the thing for young girls.
The anorexia, the bulimia, and you saw it happen in group Little groups together would become captured by this problem, this psychological problem.
And I said, this sounds a lot to me like bulimia.
And this medical professional said, yes, absolutely.
This psychological contagion is the new version of bulimia.
This isn't people, this isn't children knowingly deciding.
This is a group function.
It is egged on by the social media, by the legacy media.
and it has grown to proportions that are out of control.
I have to ask you, do you have a reputation for being bloody-minded?
Because it seems to me that this decision to go from working in, what, the finance sector to leaving it all behind, putting on a billboard, and then going to pride marches or celebrations of transgenderism, that takes a certain level of bloody-mindedness.
Is this...
Where did this come from?
Just as a human being, I'm curious.
I've never been to a protest in my life before this.
My main job in life is as a dad.
And when I learned about what's happening and that parents cannot stop it.
In Washington State, for example, a 13-year-old girl can go get her breasts cut off, get puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, using her parents' insurance without their knowledge or consent.
The parents will get the bill for the co-pay, but the procedure and drugs are redacted.
In Wisconsin, the regulations have been changed for school teachers, public school teachers, that if a child is deemed by them to be wanting to transition, they are supposed to affirm, assist, but not tell the parents.
That's a minor.
That's in Virginia as well, right where we are right now.
This is all over the place.
They're hiding the social transition of children.
Social transition is when you change their name and pronouns at school.
That's the first step.
I go from being Fred to being Frida, and my pronoun changes, and that prepares the way for the rest of the indoctrination.
Yes, and they're hiding this from parents.
We have unqualified 23-year-old teachers with blue and purple hair engaging in psychological interventions with a child and hiding it from the parents.
And half these kids are on the autism spectrum.
At the Tavistock, which is the only gender clinic in England, 35% of the kids from a sample size of more than 1,000, 35% had moderate to severe autism.
If you include the mild cases, it goes above 50%.
We have the Children's Hospital in D.C.
here, literally advertising on their website that they have a gender autism program, and it states, we do not yet know why so many autistic children are struggling with this.
But guess what?
They don't know, but it's not going to stop them from sterilizing a generation of autistic children.
Same thing with all these children's hospitals.
Seattle Children's Hospital is working with these autism groups.
It's a pipeline for them.
It's a pipeline and it makes money and we played the videos last week from Boston Children's Hospital where they were celebrating this saying that from the womb from birth children know that they've been born into the wrong sex which is a cult a cultic statement in and of itself and these are quote-unquote medical professionals The man is Billboard Chris.
He has been censored on Twitter.
We'll talk about that momentarily.
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You should be talking to your students about pronouns.
Everyone has a pronoun and you shouldn't be assuming what they are.
Just like you shouldn't assume what someone's name is, right?
Like if I went up to you and I was like, hey, George, and you're like, no, my name's Kyle.
And I said, no, it's George.
And you were like, no, it's Kyle.
And then I responded by saying, no, I can tell by the way that you look that you're a George.
That would be ridiculous.
And that's how ridiculous you sound when you assume people's pronouns.
But I figure that anyone following my page already knows that and is already talking about pronouns with their students.
Another unbelievable video from Libs of TikTok, who again has been suspended by Twitter.
God bless Libs of TikTok.
I have a request in to get her on the show.
That is from a kindergarten teacher.
That is a post from TikTok from kindergarten with Kalina.
Kindergarten with Kalina.
We're talking to Chris Elston.
He is Billboard Chris.
Man, I have so many questions for you.
I couldn't do what you're doing.
Tell us what it's like to do what you do.
Are you abused every time you go to these events?
What kind of events do you go to with your billboard saying puberty blockers cannot be consented to by children?
Tell us the worst of the worst and tell us if you've had any success stories.
Sure.
Most of what I do, I just go to wherever it's busy.
So I go to downtown centers and I just hang out and I talk to people and they come up to me within 30 seconds and start asking questions.
Usually, is it neutral?
Is it curious?
Or is it aggressive?
What is it?
Because you've had your arm broken, right?
I have.
This is what's fascinating.
More than 90% of the population from all over the political spectrum agree.
Because guess what?
It's not that controversial to say we shouldn't be sterilizing kids.
And parents who are Democrats don't want that to happen to their kids either.
All sorts of Democrats are leaving the party on this one issue alone.
But I've been assaulted, for sure, more than 20 times.
That includes people spitting at me.
I've been punched numerous times.
I had my arm broken in Montreal.
I got attacked by Antifa.
Tell us that story, Chris.
Sure.
It was 7pm in March of last year.
And it was a premeditated attack.
Five or six people, one woman as well.
Five or six men, one woman.
So you were standing there with your billboard?
Yes, I was just standing on St.
Catherine Street, which is the busiest pedestrian street in Montreal.
Next thing I knew, I was getting punched in the face, punched in the back of the head, had my signs ripped off me.
One guy walked into the middle of the street, stomped on my body cam, which was attached to my sign.
And I didn't know what the heck was going on because all of a sudden I'm getting attacked from all sides.
I never said a word.
I know I can't fight back because then I get arrested.
That's happened to me twice.
After I've been assaulted, I've been arrested twice.
For defending yourself?
One time I pushed a man to stop him from running away after he sucker punched me from behind.
I pushed them.
I walked away to de-escalate.
I waited for police to arrive.
They arrested me.
And then almost three months later... Hang on.
Somebody punched you first.
Correct.
Unprovoked.
From behind.
And you were arrested.
Yes.
By which police force?
Vancouver Police Force.
I was at a big event once in Vancouver with 1,500 people.
I'd just gotten there and all these Antifa folks surrounded me and wouldn't let me move.
Police said I was instigating.
I literally had walked 10 feet and not said a word.
You being surrounded in silence.
Was instigation for the police?
Me having a sign was instigating these violent people to try to stop me.
My phone was then knocked out of my hand and then I was hit by a union rep and as soon as I was hit I was grabbed from behind by police, arrested, charged with causing a disturbance and taken to jail.
What does this do to you?
When these events occur to you, when you are punished by the state, As an innocent man, when you are injured, wounded by radicals, who walk-offs got free, but you paid the price, what does that do to Chris Elston?
They're doing me a favor.
Antifa can come and break any bone any day of the week, because all it does is help me reach millions more.
Bones heal.
What's happening to these kids every single day is far worse.
I've had lots of injuries.
Broken bones, no big deal.
Why are you in the swamp?
What brings you to DC, Chris?
I'm going on Tim Poole's show tonight, but I also have been meeting with political representatives, staff of senators, staff of congressmen and women, and meeting other people who are involved in this fight.
This is where it all goes down in this country, so this is where I need to come quite often to talk to these people.
These politicians need to understand that this is a winning issue.
There's no way to embrace this and not actually convince people that you're a good guy.
If you just speak with compassion and truth, then you don't sensationalize anything.
Sensationalize it.
Because there's no need.
The truth is already stranger than fiction.
Well, it's shocking.
Just speak with compassion and truth.
You won't lose a single Republican and you'll do nothing but win Democrats over to your side.
But they need to understand this issue.
They need to understand how to message it.
So I'm trying to help them with that.
All right, you showed me a text that you received from a Democrat.
Let's put it up on the screen.
This is something you literally showed me 25 minutes ago in the green room.
I'll read it out for our listeners.
I'm a lifelong Democrat, nearly 40 years.
This issue, along with one other, curious what that is, has made me leave the Democrat Party.
Please tell them I am ready to vote R for Republican for the first time in my life.
Please get vocal about this issue and make it clear they will hold hearings and stop this abuse of children and this education in schools.
I wouldn't call it education.
And the last line is, I am not alone.
How unusual is that sentiment from the messages you've received?
I get that every day.
Really?
I can't keep up with messages.
I can't even respond to everyone anymore.
But this is every day.
All these, they call themselves radical feminists.
They're all leftists, but they are, they're all speaking out against this.
But tons of Democrats are leaving the party because of this issue.
You've got the far left, these crazy people who are holding essentially the Democratic Party hostage.
Do you think Nancy Pelosi doesn't know what a woman is?
Of course she does, but they're not allowed to say no, because the worst thing in the world for a Democrat is to be called a bigot.
It's like instant death.
Yeah.
And they're just cowards.
Absolutely.
I think, and maybe you're the wrong person to ask, but I think this is the issue.
I think this is the issue that will red pill tens of millions of people who otherwise don't see themselves as political, may see themselves as left of center, and who just say, you're doing what to children?
I think this is the Damascene moment.
This is when the scales fall from the eyes for tens if not hundreds of millions of people across the globe.
Potentially exaggerating it, Chris?
A hundred percent.
This is one of the most insane things humans have ever done, and we have a long history of insanity.
But trying to change the sex of a child is right up there if it's not the number one craziest thing that's ever been done.
This whole ideology hinges on stereotypes.
These Boston Children's Hospital videos that I tweeted out and Thank you so much to Lives of TikTok, Matt Walsh, helping this to go viral.
But this really woke up a lot of people because instead of me saying it, this is coming from the mouths of the top experts in the world who are literally saying that if a little girl as a toddler tries to pee standing up, that's a sign she's a boy.
Or wants to get their hair cut.
If a little boy doesn't want to get his hair cut, that's a sign he's a girl.
Yeah.
They literally state that toys are one of the determining factors in our gender.
Yes, something which by the way is genetically determined and there's nothing you can do to an adult's body or child's body that changes whether you are an XY male or an XX chromosome individual.
We're talking to Billboard Chris, Chris Elston.
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So, let's talk about what happened to you on social media.
What is the status of your Twitter account, Chris?
In early March of this year, my account was made 18+.
I didn't even know that there were 18-plus accounts on Twitter.
Yeah, if you're posting violence and gratuitous gore and nudity, I guess you're supposed to be 18+.
But tons of accounts do that and they're not locked down like this.
And then you have this filter put on you.
Let's put the image up on the screen as if you're some provider of hardcore porn or snuff videos.
It says right there, Billboard Chris, at Billboard Chris.
Caution!
This profile may include potentially sensitive content, such as, children cannot consent to puberty blockers.
Yeah, such as a picture of me standing on the street.
That offensive?
Super offensive.
Any tweet with a picture gets this warning.
They also put a search ban on my account, so for people listening right now trying to follow me, if you enter Billboard Chris into the search bar, you won't find me.
If you go to Twitter and put the actual name of your account, your account will not come up.
Correct.
You can find it on my website, or you can click on the exact name once you've typed it, and it will take you there.
But people end up seeing billboards for Christ.
Billboard Chris does not show up.
It dramatically reduced my engagement when they started this.
It dropped about 80%.
And some people don't even know how to follow me because they haven't entered their birth date and you have to enter your birth date now to follow me.
Because your page is age restricted, you can't get to see it until you've entered your birth date.
And a lot of people, of course, don't want to put personal information out there anyway.
Yeah.
So the actual people who need to see my account may be some children on Twitter who are stuck in this cult.
They can't even view my stuff if they've entered their proper birth date.
Tell us about the reaction to your discussions here in D.C.
I presume you've met with some politicians in Canada, although it looks pretty bad there as well.
No.
They won't meet with me in Canada.
So you can have discussions with Senate staffers here and Congressional staffers in D.C., this racist, bigoted land, but the uber-liberal, Trudeau-run Canada?
Nobody will talk to you, Chris?
Not one Conservative politician in Canada.
What?
The Conservatives won't talk to you?
None.
they're all okay explain that explain that the land of the the trucker convoy can you explain how the land of the trucker convoy has putative conservatives who Who won't take a meeting with you?
The Trucker Convoy had nothing to do with the Conservative Party.
It gave them some... Problems, right?
Some leeway to finally talk about this issue.
Because they made it a little safer for them to talk about this issue because they realised how many people were against all these ridiculous mandates.
But no, the Conservative Party is full of cowards.
They're not conservative at all.
I don't know what they're conservating.
They're not conserving anything except for Trudeau's latest policy.
We call them the Uniparty.
All our members of Parliament voted unanimously to pass a conversion therapy bill, which states that we shouldn't convert people's sexual orientation, which most people agree with.
But the real purpose of this bill, it states it's now a crime to help a girl to feel comfortable as a girl.
Hang on, hang on.
No, I don't believe you.
Bill C-4.
Go look it up.
Bill C-4 says... It is a crime to try to convert a child's gender identity from transgender to cisgender, is the made-up term they use.
To bring them back?
To say, no, no, no, sorry, Julia, you're not Fred, you're Julia.
Can I help you live the life that God and biology has actually deemed you to be?
That is now prohibited in Canada?
I mean, excuse my ignorance.
I tweet out the exact wording all the time.
It's a crime.
It's totally fine to indoctrinate a child, a girl, to believe she's a boy.
That's okay.
But if you want to help her to feel comfortable as a girl so that she's not a lifelong medical patient, that's now a crime punishable by up to a two million dollar fine and five years in prison.
This is for parents, for therapists, faith leaders, anybody.
So what this does is it puts a chill on the entire psychotherapeutic profession because these counselors are too afraid to help these kids because some crazy activist will come along and say they're trying to convert their child's gender identity.
These bills have already passed in the United States as well.
California, Washington State.
Let's put that headline up, Eric.
This is the latest from California, a state that used to be a paradise.
This is from Blaze Media.
California advances bill to become a sanctuary state for transgender minors.
So they want to be the place that if you want to perform, A double mastectomy on a twelve-year-old girl, or a chemical castration, or a physical castration.
I'm sorry I'm talking about this on radio in the afternoon, but we have a choice to make.
Either we stand up for the truth like Chris, or we lose our civilization.
I've said it many times on this show.
A civilization is firstly measured by the metric of how it treats the most vulnerable.
How a civilization treats the unborn, its children, and the elderly.
is the mark of the quality of that civilization.
I'm going to say it many, many times still, billboardchris.com, donate, support this man now.
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You are not, and I put, you know, a big caveat here, because neither of us are medical professionals.
I'm a PhD in political science.
But you must be so immersed in the data of this issue, because this is your life now.
This is your profession.
Let's talk about the consequence.
Beyond just the I'm sorry, any doctor who does this should be arrested and put in prison.
They should be struck off, have their medical license taken away from them forever, and they should be put in prison for child mutilation.
This is torturing a child.
You're not just mutilating them, you're also making them sterile.
So that's my first statement on the record.
These doctors should all be arrested.
They should be arrested, tried, and put in prison.
But let's talk about the effect on the children.
We know, they don't want to talk about it, but Walsh covers it in his movie, the people who go through the quote-unquote transition, which isn't a transition, end up with the highest level, I can think of no other sector of society that is a taxonomous group, you know, like lumberjacks or whatever, coal miners,
There is no group of humankind that has as high a suicide ideational rate as those who've undergone these mutilations.
Because they get to a point where, you know, they realize, I may have a fake penis, but I can't really have sex.
I am now sterile.
I may be able to adopt a child, but will the child look at me as a woman when my voice is a baritone?
So we have 40 to 50% suicide ideation rates.
Just the sheer psychological damage on these children as adults should be reason enough to stop this, should it not, Chris?
Yeah, there's a really good website people can go to.
It's statsforgender.org.
And if they search suicide, they'll get the truth about this.
One of the best studies we have shows that 10 years after transition, because it does take a while, Right, because you've got to do the social, the chemical, the physical.
And sometimes there's a bit of a honeymoon period, because they've obsessed over this, and it takes time for all these medical complications to kick in.
But the suicide rate ten years after the fact is 19 times higher than their peers.
19 times.
So if somebody who hasn't transitioned is 19 times less likely to consider suicide.
Right.
To actually commit it.
To commit it, not just think of it.
Now suicidal ideation Look, this is happening.
This is happening with these kids.
We need to acknowledge that.
This happens with anorexic girls.
It's higher for autistic kids and kids with personality disorders.
But with an autistic girl, we don't, or sorry, with an anorexic girl, we don't say, yes, sweetheart.
You are overweight.
Let's get you liposuction.
Right.
When a girl comes, you know, weighs 60 pounds, you can see her ribcage.
Yeah.
You don't affirm her.
So this is one of the things that came to me like a flash out of the blue.
I saw Jordan Peterson say this, who is, I think, a clinical psychiatrist.
Yeah.
Who said, there is no mental condition where we, the phrase that you say, I'm sorry, Chris, that I, you know, this is more of a conversation than an interview, but Because this drives me, this issue.
There's no other condition that's psychiatric or psychological where we affirm the condition.
Because they talk about gender affirmation.
The Biden administration talks about affirming gender in the military if you're transitioning.
When somebody who has multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia comes to a psychiatrist, they don't affirm.
Yes, you have 24 identities or you think you are Napoleon.
Yes, you are Napoleon!
Or your dead grandfather is trying to kill you every night because you have schizophrenia.
We don't say yes to any of these.
This is the only condition.
Where the medical professional surrenders to the sick person.
These endocrinologists have 12 years of post-secondary education, and they are listening to a 10-year-old who walks into their office, a 10-year-old girl who says, I'm a boy, and they say, wonderful.
We are so glad you found your true self.
And many times on their first appointment, they're getting these puberty-blocking drugs, or the opposite sex's hormones.
So that's what an endocrinologist does.
It's the specialist in hormones.
Now, the side effects of these include, for girls, testosterone usage after four or five years causes vaginal and uterine atrophy.
They have to get their uterus removed.
A woman here in DC just texted me a couple days ago.
She went on testosterone and she was rushed to the ER three times because her kidneys were failing.
We don't even know the effects these hormones have on our developing brains.
These kids are young, they're babies.
We don't have the data.
This is all new.
We do have some studies into gender dysphoria going way back.
But this is when it affected one out of 30 or 40,000 kids, mostly boys.
And all of those studies, by the way, show that 80 to 90% of the time, these kids outgrew the gender dysphoria.
It was a transitory thing.
And the majority going back in time, of these really effeminate boys, the majority grew up to be gay. - So this is the other thing that's splitting the community on the LGBTQ whatever community, is that the homosexual, the classic homosexual community is saying, you're trying to erase male homosexuality.
By turning somebody who would grow up to be a gay man into a fake woman.
This is the argument.
Gender ideology is the biggest homophobic movement there is.
That's it.
It teaches that it is your personality, your jobs, your hobbies, your likes, dislikes, your roles, and your expectations that determine your mystical gender identity.
And I'm out here saying, look, if a girl wants to climb trees, throw around a football, hates wearing dresses and wants to have short hair, guess what?
She's 100% girl.
Yeah.
And everybody knows the tomboy who grew up to be, you know, beautiful, you know, ball gown wearing, uber feminine woman.
We know them.
Have you identified in this crusade of yours, Chris?
Because it's demonic.
But is there a nexus of what's driving it?
Because in the exposé, what is a woman used for?
The money, the figures.
These transitioning processes make millions of dollars for the hospitals.
Then, of course, there's the gender ideology, the critical theory, the queer theory.
Is it just a concatenation of the two, of the ideology and business?
Or have you identified another locus that's driving the insanity?
Yeah, this does go back to academia.
It goes back to the 50s with a doctor named John Money, who experimented on a couple twin boys, one of whom lost his penis in a circumcision gone wrong.
And he tried to raise this boy as a girl, castrated him completely.
And didn't they both commit suicide?
They did.
Both boys?
As adults.
But, you know, queer theory, whatever you want to call this, gender ideology, This has been floating around in academic circles for a long time, but now it's emerged and it's permeated all of society.
And it's just this crazy theory that stereotypes determine what sex you are, essentially.
We've had some billionaires, like Martine Rothblatt of XM Series Radio, Jennifer Pritzker of the Hyatt Fortune.
Who have been funding this stuff?
Funding gender clinics, Lurie Children's Hospital in Chicago, one of the main sources of this, that was started by Pritzker.
All right.
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So I want Chris Elston to be the marshal, not just the general.
I want him to be the marshal of an army of people that are going to save our children and the generations of children to come.
If people want to be part of your battle to save, I think this is Western civilization, this is the front line, where do they begin?
How do they educate themselves?
How do they get organized?
You are there, you've been in the trenches for four years now, five years now.
Just two.
Where does it begin?
What do you say to them?
It begins with getting yourself educated.
We have to have conversations about this.
This is going to spread through word of mouth because we all know the media isn't helping us.
Conservative media is doing a great job now.
But you have to get up to speed, and you've got to use whatever gifts you have and influence you have to make noise about this.
You've got to speak to your child's teacher.
You've got to speak to the principal.
You've got to go to the school board meetings.
So soon on my website, I'm going to have three different speeches people can give at their school boards.
A one-minute speech, two-minute, and three-minute speech.
Genius.
They can make it their own, but I'll give them all the basics that they need to talk about, because we need to go on the offense.
Conservatives are not good at this.
We play defense too much.
We've got to go on the offense, and we've got to kick this ideology out of our schools, because that's one of the places this is happening.
Social media is another huge issue.
You've got to keep kids off of that.
But we can't do much about that.
What we can do is get this out of our schools.
And TikTok is the worst, correct?
TikTok, Tumblr, all sorts of places on the web are just terrible.
If your kid's into anime, that's a huge red flag.
Anime, the Japanese cartoons?
Yes, the anime community is huge into this.
Art websites like DeviantArt are another recruiting ground for this.
And even video games.
There's a young girl I know in Seattle.
She got her breast cut off at 16.
She was playing video games.
And on video games, of course, you're talking to people around the world now.
Oh, when they're playing live with other children.
That's right.
And she started talking to these slightly older young adults who identified as trans, and she was having a tough time in life.
And they bombed her with love, which is what happens in a cult, this love bombing.
And she got indoctrinated, and she came to believe that she was really a boy trapped in a girl's body.
And after next to no time with therapists, they cut her breasts off, put her on testosterone for three years, and at 19 she detransitioned or came off the testosterone, but she suffered permanent harm.
She has a deep voice, grew hair everywhere, lost her breasts, and the state of Washington won't let her sue because the statute of limitations has expired.
My God.
My God.
Chris Alston, thank you for what you do.
How long are you going to fight?
Until this is done with.
We've done away with this child abuse all around the world.
This is what I'm here for.
Thank you for doing what you do.
My pleasure.
Billboardchris.com I'm going to support him.
You need to support him.
And you need to talk.
You need to speak out.
You need to cleave to the truth.
Every single one of you.
All three million listening and the four million following on social media and everybody else.
You have a responsibility.
Yes, you have a responsibility in this fight.
These are children.
What did our Lord and Savior tell us?
Better that a millstone be hung around their neck and they be thrown into the sea than to harm one of these children.
Well, that's what they're doing and we need to stop them.
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