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Like, there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Yeah, we had this too.
Yeah, so you guys censored that as well?
So we took a different path than Twitter.
I mean, basically the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert.
We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election.
We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that.
So just be vigilant.
Well there you have it.
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So much more to discuss in terms of what has transpired since we last spoke.
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The affidavit portion of the illegal search warrant against President Trump has been released.
Well, 50% of it.
The other 50% is blacked out.
portion of the illegal search warrant against President Trump has been released.
Well, 50% of it, the other 50% is blacked out.
Why?
Because there was no reason for what occurred.
It was a state-sanctioned burglary.
And there you heard Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook, say, yeah, the FBI told us to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story.
So whether it's raiding the home of a man who has all the clearances You could possibly have.
Or suppressing a story that is bad for the person running against him for the presidency.
The FBI is done.
It's over.
It's finished.
Put a fork in it.
When it comes to raiding a president's home, let's be clear.
Well, let me ask, let me ask Eric.
This is not a trick question.
It's not rhetorical.
If there is one person in the United States who can give anybody a clearance, who can strip anybody of a clearance, who can read any classified document and has the highest classification till the day he dies, and likewise can declassify any document, if that person is the President of the United States, who is it impossible
to prosecute for mishandling classified information.
There's one person in America, not a trick question, who is the one person you cannot criminally prosecute for mishandling classified information.
Eric?
The commander-in-chief, obviously.
The president.
Bingo!
You got it!
Thank you!
Irrespective of the fact that he's guarded by the Secret Service 24 hours of every single day, the fact that he had an archive in his home that was secured, that had had its security upgraded at the request of the FBI when they came to his home two months ago when he was cooperating and his attorneys were cooperating with him and the National Archives, It doesn't matter.
He could be keeping those classified documents strung together on a washing line at the beach, should he wish to.
He doesn't smoke, but he could be using them as cigar lighters for his guests at Mar-a-Lago.
Why?
Because he's the president.
He could wallpaper the exterior of that beautiful building if he so wished to do so.
Let me be clear.
The Supreme Court has decided on this.
A federal judge has decided on this exactly ten years ago in a case involving Bill Clinton and documents pertaining to his presidency.
The president cannot be criminally prosecuted for anything relating to classified information.
In fact, that federal court decision dictates the following.
It is in the president's unique authority to decide which documents from his presidency Oh, they?
As if by magic!
Thank you, Eric.
There's the decision.
Department of Navy vs. Egan.
This is a Supreme Court decision that states the following.
The President is the Commander-in-Chief.
His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the executive branch that gives them access to that kind of information flows from this constitutional investment of power in the president.
And here's the important part.
Exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.
There is nothing the Congress can do, no bill they can pass, no investigation they can hold that has anything to do with the president's unique powers.
In fact, the Presidential Records Act that was brought in consequence of President Nixon's resignation from the highest position in the land is explicit.
That's it.
No criminal sanctions may pertain to any issue regarding classified documents and a former president.
So what's going on?
We have an incredible lineup of guests for you today.
One of them is the President's official representative to the National Archives.
Yes, you heard correctly.
The point person legally for these issues.
Former Chief of Staff of the Pentagon.
Former Deputy Director of National Intelligence and Kash Patel will be with us.
Likewise, two individuals who have done sterling, sterling work.
Documenting the topic that is really at the heart of this issue, which is the Russia hoax.
President Trump openly on Truth Social in a public statement when he was president stated, the Russia collusion related classified documents are declassified.
I have ordered them in the past tense.
Nobody can stop him.
Sadly, the then Director of National Intelligence...
Ratcliffe sent those documents back to the deep state that wanted to review them, which is of course absurd, because those who work for the president cannot gainsay what the president has ordered.
That's not how it works in a republic.
But the two individuals who've written so much on this issue will likewise be with us.
Greg Jarrett of Fox News, and also John Solomon, who has been pilloried for saying the truth.
about the Russia collusion hoax and the witch hunt that was the Mueller probe.
It's going to be a busy Monday.
It's crazy for a Monday.
And then a very, very special guest, a man who has been attacked by the mainstream media and voices on the right as well.
A man who served in the White House at the highest levels for President Trump, his son-in-law, Jared Kushner will be with us for the whole third hour of the show to tell us the truth about what was going on inside the Trump administration.
Not just me as a source, but the President's son-in-law.
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Why they can't prosecute President Trump?
Why they can't prosecute President Trump?
Hey, Seth.
How are you?
Good.
It's never a dull moment lately.
Always something going on.
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
How's things?
Yeah, everything's okay.
You know, I've got a couple of books that I just finished writing that come out next year.
I'm going to look to you to help me with that, buddy.
A couple?
Yeah, one book's called Trial of the Century, the great Scopes trial, Clarence Darrow, you know, it was about a hundred years ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the other one is, I'm the editor of the other on the Constitution and great patriotic documents in America over the last 10 or 15 years.
Fabulous.
Who are you publishing them with?
The Scopes trial book, Trial of the Century, is Simon & Schuster, and then the Constitution book is HarperCollins.
Congratulations.
Yeah, well thanks, but listen, I'll want to come on your program to chat it up a little bit.
Yeah.
You never come to D.C., right?
I do.
I was just there about two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
Oh, well give us a...
Heads up and we'll get you in studio.
Yeah, whether we do that or not, I'll send you the books because I'd like you to read them.
No, I'm delighted.
I was literally just about to ask you if you're working on a new book and you beat me to the punch.
You'll like them, I think.
Good.
What are the dates?
What are the launches?
The Trial of the Century comes out in May.
I think the date is May 30th.
And the Constitution book, we're still trying to figure out a date for that so that it doesn't compete.
Right.
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It's been an Believably dense week for legal events, for the shockwaves after the raid on the private residence of President Trump.
We have none better to analyze it than the political and legal analyst for Fox News, Greg Jarrett, the author of Witch Hunt and the Russia Hoax.
Greg, before I get your take on the latest pronouncements, here is Newt on Fox with his I think that you've been watching political theater disguised as law enforcement.
We've seen that now for four or five years.
We've seen case after case where they are overreacting, where they're deliberately humiliating people.
I recently did a podcast with Paul Manafort about his experience in prison.
He's kept in solitary confinement for eight months.
You're watching a corrupt department that is out of control.
It's right.
It's a cesspool of corruption.
money to Hillary Clinton in 2016 of the people who were donating, who worked at that department.
The senior justice, the senior FBI is clearly corrupt and clearly dishonest.
Greg, is the FBI out of control?
And why is half of the affidavit supporting the warrant still unreadable?
That's right.
It's a cesspool of corruption.
And you know, when Merrick Garland says, "Oh, trust us, we should not." He has not earned our trust.
His actions, you know, in protecting, running a protection racket for Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, together with his Wallace raid into Trump's home, grabbing everything in sight, are just two examples of why, you know, we shouldn't trust them.
And today in a court filing down at Florida, Garland, who is opposing the appointment of a special master to examine the seized documents for privileged material, said, well, we already looked at them all.
We have our own filter team or taint team.
To ensure that these documents are properly protected and that executive privilege and attorney-client privilege are segregated.
Yeah, right.
And tomorrow's Christmas.
These so-called taint teams that Garland has are themselves tainted.
They're a charade.
They pretend to be objective.
They're not.
Because they're all on the same team as the government prosecutors, like letting cops investigate cops.
It's fair in name only.
You know, Merrick Garland has an ugly, shameful track record of weaponizing the Department of Justice and the FBI for political purposes.
So let's just track what's happened in the last two and a half weeks.
We have We have the raid.
We have the press conference where nothing was revealed.
He didn't even take questions.
It lasted four minutes.
We have constant leaks to the legacy media that start off by saying it's an archival issue, classified information.
Then it has to do with nuclear weapons.
And then it has to do with the Espionage Act.
We get to the redacted release of the affidavit No mention of any of the Espionage Act nuclear accusations.
You have read, I don't know how many affidavits you've read in your life.
Why, if the president has said, I have nothing to hide, release it all, what is the real reason for us not knowing three weeks later why a president's private residence was raided, Greg?
What is the possible explanation?
Well, there's no good explanation for it.
Garland, when he sought his lawless warrant, relied on three general criminal statutes.
They're inapplicable.
The controlling statute is very specific.
That's the Presidential Records Act of 1978.
And the act does grant former presidents a right of access to presidential papers, as well as possession.
And that's a specific statute, so it takes precedence over general statutes, those cited by the Attorney General.
The proper remedy, if Garland thought that Trump had records he shouldn't have, is to go to court and seek a civil enforcement to allow a neutral judge to resolve the dispute over papers by evaluating the competing interests consistent with the law.
Garland didn't do that.
Why?
Because he wanted to get in there and ransack the joint and grab everything in sight in hopes of finding something, anything, that he could use to bring charges against Trump.
Maybe something related to an imagined conspiracy associated with the January 6th Capitol riot.
So, you know, whenever Garland says, trust me, don't.
And you say an impartial judge, but this magistrate had already recused himself from a previous case because it involved President Trump, and he said, I'm conflicted.
So how the hell is he giving the write-off the go-ahead for this raid?
How does that happen?
Well, he should have recused himself.
He obviously has a bias that's political in nature, because he previously recused himself.
There's no explanation for his failure to recuse himself yet again.
And, you know, he was either snookered by Garland and the FBI when he signed off on the warrant, or he just didn't care.
Take a look at the warrant.
It's a general warrant, which is strictly forbidden by the Fourth Amendment.
Uh, which says general warrants are unlawful.
You have to have specific warrants.
And the crime that has been committed, or is about to be committed, as well.
We're talking to Greg Jarrett.
The webpage is thegregjarrett.com.
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Okay, got it.
Um, what did I want to ask you?
Oh, what are you hearing about the 13 whistleblowers?
Is it Russia hoax related?
Or is it just Hunter Biden?
What's what's the what's the scuttlebutt?
Well, most of what we've heard that's been, you know, reported is that it's related to protecting Hunter Biden and putting out a you know, false story about Russian disinformation.
When they knew it wasn't.
But I think there may also be stuff related to FBI wrongdoing related to the Russia hoax.
So, you know, we'll have to stay tuned.
It'll all be buried if Democrats maintain control of Congress.
And the accusation or the inference That they wanted to take back and reclassify documents pertaining to the Russia hoax that fell under the president's blanket declassification.
Do you think that's the possible motivation for the raid?
Could be, yeah.
I mean, you know, that's a line of opinion that's gaining currency.
It does make sense.
But, you know, we just don't know because there's been so much concealment.
Yeah, it's stunning.
Did you ever think we'd be here with the president's home being raided by the FBI?
I was pretty shocked by that.
I mean, there's always a tug of war over presidential papers.
Yeah, but it lasts for years and years and years, and usually it's lawyers.
Right.
That's typically what happens.
Right.
And, you know, look, a president doesn't pack up his own presidential papers by law.
That's done by the GSA, a government agency.
Right.
It's their job.
So if documents, errant documents, ended up in the wrong place, it's not unusual and, you know, it's the GSA's fault.
Right.
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We now have whistleblowers at the FBI telling Senator Grassley that they were told to slow down and back off Hunter Biden.
And I'll say this, if there's a prosecution of Donald Trump for mishandling classified information after the Clinton debacle which you presided over and did a hell of a good job, there'll be riots in the streets.
That is Lindsey Graham talking to Fox News about the consequences of, well, what could happen if the whistleblowers confirm what we suspect about the FBI becoming a political actor during the last elections.
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We're back with Greg Jarrett, who has two hats, two very natty hats he wears at the same time at Fox News.
Of course, he is the preeminent legal analyst, but also political analyst.
So if I can ask you, Greg, to doff your political analyst's hat.
What are the ramifications?
First, what do you think is the overall consequence politically for the Democrats in a midterm year, given not only the Mar-a-Lago raid, but the way the January 6 show trial was handled?
And if in the next month or two, because we're only 70 days away, We get some concrete accusations buttressed by the 13 or 14 FBI whistleblowers that yes, political actions were taken by the FBI to squelch the Hunter Biden laptop story and to assist his father winning the election.
How dangerous could things become politically in the United States?
Well, the show trial hasn't moved the needle according to polling data.
But polling data has indicated that it had Americans, I think the number was 78%, that said that if they knew the truth about the laptop, it would have influenced their vote.
78%.
I mean, so, you know, that gives you an indication that Americans, you know, are convinced that the fix was in.
That they were, you know, our deep state bureaucracy, led by Merrick Garland's DOJ and the corrupt FBI, put their heavy feet on the scales of justice and also tried to influence the presidential election by burying and incriminating information
About Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, while at the same time propagating a phony story that it was all Russian disinformation when they knew it wasn't.
And I think, you know, if more of this comes out through the whistleblowers, it's a wake-up call to Americans just ahead of the election.
What is your expectation for criminal referrals coming out of either the January 6th show trial or the Mar-a-Lago raid?
Do you really think that this DOJ is prepared to cross that Rubicon and try and prosecute a former president who will be running for the presidency again, Greg?
Well, you'd have to be an idiot and a fool to bring charges based on this dispute over records.
Again, because the controlling authority is the Presidential Record Act, you know, which gives the president, the former president, some right of access and possession of the documents.
I mean, it would be foolish to do that.
As for January 6th, you know, they've tried mightily and promised they would implicate Donald Trump in a criminal conspiracy so far in their ridiculous show trial.
Not a scintilla of evidence of such a conspiracy.
But you're being logical, Greg.
Is everything we've seen from the Democrats in the last six years been logical?
No, logic is in short supply in the f***ed up progressive wing that has commandeered and hijacked the Democratic Party.
Logic is an alien concept to them.
Uh, and you know, we see it in in Joe Biden's lawless cancellation of You're using a statute referring to military personnel after September the 11th.
We're going to discuss that as well.
You've written a piece on it.
It is on your website.
It is on your Twitter feed.
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Hey, John, John, can we talk about the piece you wrote on Kevin Brock? - Thank you.
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Can we talk about the piece you wrote about Kevin Brock?
Absolutely.
Okay, cool.
And then ask me about these review teams that the FBI has.
Oh, the taint teams?
Yeah, right, the taint teams or the review teams.
There is a significant recent history and the Supreme Court is considering taking a case about their legality.
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Welcome back to America First.
Great to be with you, Seth.
Happy Monday.
Happy Monday.
Not a slow news Monday.
Not a slow news Monday at all.
Not at all.
You've been sending me stuff every day that I've been pushing out on Truth Social, on Twitter, on Facebook.
Tell us first, the piece that we're going to post right now again on our feeds is about a former assistant director of the FBI, Kevin Brock.
You wrote the piece.
Why is this person's opinion so important right now, John?
Well, first off, he was the intelligence chief, the very first intelligence chief of the FBI, so these sort of issues about classified documents fell under him.
Secondly, he worked for Bob Mueller.
Third, he's respected on both sides of the political aisle.
Democrats and Republicans have always looked at him as an honest broker.
And about a couple weeks ago, I had him on when we got the first inkling of the search.
He said he had real concerns about the search, but he wants to see the documents come out.
Then the search warrant gets released and the affidavit gets released and he comes on the show Friday night and he says there is no basis to have searched the president's home.
It does not articulate a lawful basis to have searched the president's home.
I don't think they have a criminal case.
I think they've criminalized a civil documents dispute.
This from the man who used to have responsibility for things like this, like classified documents and risks.
Kevin Brock is really respected and I think his voice, though you wouldn't find it in the mainstream media today, It really rings large on a story like this.
So I think it was Dan Bongino spoke a lot about your article this morning that the issue the significance of the article for somebody who was at the top of the FBI is a the affidavit there's no crime that we know of in the affidavit so you have to have a crime have occurred or about to imminently occur to have a search warrant.
So it's a fishing trip, a search warrant.
And then secondly, I think that the phrase that best sums it off, and this is something I put in my monologue, if there's anybody in America who cannot be criminally charged with anything related to classified information, it's the president, especially if that president has had a blanket public especially if that president has had a blanket public statement on the declassification of the documents in the case, which are the Russia collusion documents that you've covered.
So So whichever way you slice it, the warrant or the person, the FBI has nothing to stand on, John.
Yeah, that's the concern.
And it isn't just the concern of Kevin Brock.
It's the concern of people like Alan Dershowitz, who voted for Joe Biden.
It's the concern of Jonathan Turley at the George Washington University.
There are very sound, smart people, some of them Democrats, some of them career FBI people, who say this case isn't right.
And this idea of doing something without a predicate goes back to Russia, right?
Russia collusion.
It turns out they didn't have a real predicate to investigate the president.
There is a recent whistleblower who said that they opened up a case on President Trump in 2020, not this case, not the Russia case, where they didn't have a proper predicate.
The idea that the FBI could keep opening up on a sitting and former president without meeting the basic rules of their manual of their of their guide for Correct investigations should be troubling to all of us.
If the rules can't be followed for the most powerful man in the world, what does it say about all of us less powerful people being targeted without a basis?
And I think that's why so many people are concerned about the FBI.
We don't hate FBI agents.
We want to make sure they follow the law.
Let's just add a little bit of color to that prior statement.
So one of the buried leads in the story about Michael Sussman, who we know lied to the FBI when he texted the General Counsel and said, I'm not representing a client.
I just want to bring these Alfa Bank documents to the FBI to show you that President Trump, his company had relations with the Russian bank.
Well, back then, it wasn't illegal to have relations with a Russian bank in America.
as a business entity.
And the shocking thing is, the day after they met, the FBI opened an investigation on President Trump with, again, zero predicate of any crime being committed.
All right, let's go back to the Mar-a-Lago raid.
John, the Taint team, allegedly the documents, they don't want to have a special master, an independent ombudsman review the documents that have been taken.
Why would the GOJ not want that?
The Attorney General has said, no, no, no, no, no.
Our guys will look at it.
Our taint teams will decide whether these documents are relevant or not.
What is the problem with these taint teams, John?
Well listen, over the last two or three years there have been significant cases, significant admissions by the government that tank teams didn't do the job properly.
They cheated.
They didn't follow the process right.
They didn't consider the privileges and other legal rights of Americans whose records had been done.
The Fourth Circuit raised some serious concern in 2019 about a case Right now, the United States Supreme Court is considering a case, right now, of a guy named Mordecai Korf.
A bunch of subpoenas, or excuse me, search warrants, where privileged materials were taken up.
Supreme Court's actually thinking of taking on and reviewing the legality.
And then, in April of this year, the Securities and Exchange Commission, which worked with the FBI and the Justice Department on a case, They admitted that their taint teams had done bad things, that they had not followed the rules and the laws, egregious oversights.
This idea that the Justice Department could walk in and say, you can trust us, we do this all the time, with a very recent history of problems.
It's not being honest to the court.
I'm pretty sure this judge already knows the history.
And I think tonight we're going to have a big story about all the historical, recent, recent historical problems about the FBI's use of taint teams.
He never comes on the show without dangling something for us at the end of the interview.
You've got to follow him.
Jay Solomon reports on Twitter.
You've got to bookmark justthenews.com.
His show is Just the News and Not Noise.
And the book is, of course, Fallout, Nuclear Bribes, Russian Spies and the Washington Lies that Enriched the Clinton and Biden Dynasties.
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Stop recording and give me that guy.
Okay.
Title for that one?
Um, the FBI's Taint, capital T, Teams, capital T. FBI's Taint Teams, alright.
No, the problem with the FBI is taint teams.
Mm-hmm.
Taint.
Teams.
Uh-huh.
One minute.
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Let's go to your calls.
The call board is absolutely full.
If I don't get to you in this segment, I'll talk to you at the opening of the second hour, so don't go anywhere.
Let's go to Victor, who's been waiting very patiently in Silver Spring.
Victor, happy Monday.
And happy Monday to you, sir.
I have a very important question that I would like you to ask Donald Trump for me.
Yep.
When he has his rally in Pennsylvania this Saturday, will he show the raid, the video of the raid, so everybody can see it on the big screens at the rally?
That's a very good idea, Victor.
You are a smart, smart man.
Let me suggest that idea to, um... Jerry Cushman, maybe?
Sorry?
Jerry Cushman?
Um, not Jared.
Somebody else.
I'm thinking of somebody else who, um...
Oh, bless you.
It's so good to hear you again.
Stay on the line.
We need to reward you with one of our FBI is Biden's Gestapo mugs because that is very, very good.
So I like that idea.
And we should send that idea to Mar-a-Lago.
They might be tied up in red tape, but that is a very, very good idea.
Walter, California, line five.
Walter, welcome to America First.
Oh, bless you.
It's so good to hear you again.
It's odd because I'm calling because I was so upset with one of your replacements.
Not replacements!
Guest hosts!
Please, do you think I can be replaced, Walter?
No, no, no.
OK, listen, I got it.
But the thing is, I've talked to you before about this, and I can't get across the idea that we have a tremendous responsibility And a cause in this war.
All right, so who are you angry at?
And what did they say?
Because we got 50 seconds left, Walter.
Okay.
I call them the Tucker and the sickos, the sycophants.
Yes, I want to hear from them.
Yes, I know the promise of 94 to Ukraine from the US under Clinton, Russia and Britain.
Yes, I know the promise of Obama to Putin in 2012.
Yes, I know the Russian Broke their promise in 2014, attacking, invading... You're out of time, Walter.
You're out of time.
Who was it who you had issues with?
Jim... Jim Hansen, yeah.
We don't see eye to eye on Ukraine, but that's okay, because this is America, and I'm back.
God bless you, Walter.
More of your calls here on America First.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I do.
Please be seated.
When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
You were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat.
Someplace in my life, the road split off.
I had gone to the seminary.
I had gone to all white schools.
I was never gonna be a part of that world.
I was never gonna be white.
The problem is I could never go back completely to the world I came from.
We're supposed to be revolutionaries.
We work for anybody who's kind of in your face.
I saw what I had become, lashing out at every single thing.
And then I asked God, if you take anger out of my heart, I'll never hate again.
And that was the beginning of the slow return to where I started.
I want my candidacy to unify our country.
I was under constant attack.
You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do.
I will nominate Judge Clarence Thomas to serve as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
That's when all heck broke loose.
Judge Thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex.
We know exactly what's going on here.
This is the wrong black guy.
He has to be destroyed.
You really didn't matter.
What mattered was what they wanted.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my oath and did my best.
When you look at these pictures, you get a sense of what black life was like.
Some of them look pretty prosperous.
Divine Providence was clearly operating in the lives of black Americans.
Throughout history, black folks were honorable.
They had integrity.
That's what black people were.
We were never taught that America was bad and that we were not Americans.
We were raised to love America.
Protesters topple a statue of Christopher Columbus and hundreds of statues have been vandalized.
You see people trying to rewrite history.
The American people know these names have to go.
Why is that?
Whenever you have something to be proud of, People have less of a chance of controlling you.
This country is racist from top to bottom, from right to left.
And for black people to become a part of that is for them to become, in fact, anti-black.
And to hate themselves.
Y'all better, my friend!
There is no country in this world that a black person would rather be.
Unless, of course, they grow up in this country.
You broke the contract with me for 400 years!
We played that game!
Then they're fed a lie that is so deceptive.
The reason that that lie exists is power.
There are certain people who are using the Negro in order to establish that power in Washington.
And the Negro is just merely a pawn in a game that's bigger than he is.
Hey, that's the point!
Right!
Thank you.
Hey, Mr. G, didn't we just have somebody called John Solomon on the show?
Yes we did, about 20 minutes ago.
Oh my gosh!
I just got on my Twitter feed!
Breaking news!
What a great headline!
FBI agent who opened the Trump investigation has reportedly been escorted out of the bureau headquarters.
John!
You could have told us!
Let me just read this because this is juicy.
Former Washington field office special agent in charge Tim Tebolt was reportedly escorted out of the FBI's headquarters on Friday amid whistleblower allegations that he showed political bias in his handling of politically sensitive investigations.
Oh!
God bless him!
This is the Washington Times!
Washington Times has reported eyewitness accounts that, quote, Mr. Tebold was seen exiting the Bureau's elevator on Friday, escorted by two or three headquarters-looking types.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Will you reach out to Jim, Jordan, Jeff?
We need to get the skinny on those 13 whistleblowers and find out when we're going to actually hear from them, because Something's happening.
Jeff, John Carl, is he like a thing?
I mean, does anybody in the left take him seriously as a journalist?
He thinks he is.
He had that book where he supposedly, I forget what it was, they made a big deal about, but I don't think anyone really likes him.
Because whenever I see his face and you make a cunt of him, I don't even recognize the guy.
I mean, at least a bilio, you can recognize his ugly mug.
But this is John Carl at ABC with something I think we've heard for the last six years.
Cut threes.
We saw the affidavit this week.
I know you've been in touch with the Trump world.
They are worried about this.
Yeah, look, publicly what they're saying is this is rallying Republicans to Trump's defense.
This makes it more likely that he will run for president, more likely that he will win the Republican nomination, campaigning against this political action by the FBI and the DOJ.
Privately, they are really concerned.
And one of the big concerns here is that Trump has nobody defending him.
Haven't we heard this for the last, Eric, the last six years?
The walls are closing in, and there's chaos inside the Trump machine.
The walls are closing in, they say, for the 6,972nd time.
It's too hilarious.
John Carl, you are pathetic.
All right, I know it's the A Block, I know it's time for a monologue, but I'm still a little bit sore from that surgery.
Thank you for all your well wishes and your prayers.
Let's take some course, because The call board is absolutely full.
Waiting a super long time in California.
God bless you, Al.
Line one.
Welcome, Al.
Thank you, Sebastian.
Listen, if you're going to see the President this weekend, and I say this with all good wishes, try and give him your diet program because if he loses weight, that means the media won't be able to make fun of him.
Yeah, because they'll definitely stop making fun of him then, Al, right?
Well, I mean, that would be one less arrow in their quiver.
Alright, now here's my question.
Bill Hare said something that floored me.
I hadn't connected the two.
He said that we've spent millions to prevent terrorism and illegal entry at our airports, and then Joe Biden comes along and tears down our border defenses.
Now isn't that ridiculous, A, and B, I've said this before, nobody gave Joe Biden carte blanche to tear down our border defenses.
No, what he's doing is actually illegal.
It is the job of the Department of Homeland Security to secure our borders, and they've done absolutely the opposite.
They have opened them, and your obvious point is a very powerful one, that you and I, going through an airport, have to clear security But if you cross the border illegally, you don't even have to have a COVID test.
So yes, this shows you what they think about America and how general disregard they have for the nation.
Thank you, Al.
Let's go to our friend Judy in Brooklyn, line two.
Welcome, Judy.
Hi, Dr. G. I am so happy to hear your voice today.
In fact, you started the show with a different voice.
I said, oh my God, where is Dr. Stork?
I was so nervous.
Thursday, 7.30 a.m.
I was praying for you.
I want you to know that.
God bless you, Judy.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It meant a lot.
I was under the anesthetic by 7.30, but I dearly, dearly appreciate it.
Thank you very much, Judy.
I was very concerned.
Very, very, very worried.
I'm so glad to hear Dr. Gorkin.
It's quite freaky.
I'm not going to do too much TMI, but when they wheel you into this massive operating theatre, strapped down your arms, you've got the IV in, everything's white, and then, you know, half a dozen people come in in gowns and masks.
It's a little bit freaky.
A little bit freaky, I have to say, Judy.
Of course, of course.
Absolutely.
But thank God you're there behind the mic.
And just, like, forget about it.
You'll be fine.
Thank God.
So, yeah, I'm serious.
I was very, very scared for you.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Oh, you can't imagine.
Anyway, thank you.
So, yeah.
So, listen.
Nine hours of these FBI with their charade taking anything and everything for nine hours.
No transparency.
No oversight.
Didn't allow the lawyers to see anything.
How do we know that they won't add or subtract, fabricate, create something to blame him for something else like the January 6th riots?
So let me just remind you.
Mike Flynn.
It was Sidney Powell who caught this agent who actually, I think, added or subtracted something.
Yes.
It could be three letter word makes all the difference.
Let me show you.
I say I did do or I did not do.
There's a big deal difference.
The N.O.T.
You have no idea what they can do.
I do not trust them.
You know that.
Or just the 302s, when you couldn't find the 302s, the requirement, the statutory requirement for the interrogation or interview notes by the FBI, and then the 302s with Mike Flynn are filled out six months after they spoke to him?
I mean, the whole thing's a stitch-up!
Well, so how do we know that they're not doing something to frame him, create, fabricate, and just lie?
Because these people are diabolical.
I call the party now the Democratic Party.
To me, it's a new name.
Diabolical Party.
That's who they are.
Yeah.
One of our early callers, I think, called them the Demoncrats.
There is something utterly diabolical because they have fallen... Well, that's my... Right.
I call them Demoncrats.
Right.
Well, there you go.
So there you have it.
They're basically doing devil's work.
That's what they're doing.
I'm serious.
And you know what?
A vote for President Trump is a vote for God.
You vote for him, you vote for God.
And these Democrats, they are so godless.
Diabolical.
That's what they are.
They have fallen under.
It's like we heard last week from that Doyen, that champion of the left, Sam Harris, who said, I don't care if there were dead children's bodies in Hunter Biden's basement.
We had to suppress the laptop.
That's the ends justifies the means.
And that way leads the death camps and the gulags.
Communism, fascism, justified by the ends-ways-means approach.
God bless you, Judy.
Thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers.
Let's go to Sean, also in New York, Line 4.
Welcome, Sean.
Dr. Gorka, you remember I called in, it was a couple of weeks ago, it was before Mar-a-Lago, and I said we have to use the same tactics that the Democrats use.
Let me give a little specificity.
Firstly, what we have to do is we have to prosecute the mayors and governors and officials who are aiding and abetting in the evasion.
This is an invasion.
This is a violation of their constitutional oath, and they are obstructing federal law.
It is solely federal law that dictates with respect to immigration.
They are violating federal law, and they are conspiring to violate federal law.
You go after Mayorkas, you go after the president, you go after the vice president, the mayors, and the governors.
You charge them, and it will stop.
That's the first thing you have to do.
The second thing you have to do is you have to have a dragnet, just like on New Year's Eve, where they have, you know, you're checking to see if somebody's drunk driving.
You have random checkpoints.
I want to see your papers.
I know it sounds harsh.
I want to see them.
We're going to run it through a computer.
You missed your court date.
Sorry.
You're out of the country.
That's it.
Oh, you mean a dragnet for illegal aliens.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know what?
One of the things that would help, but of course the Chamber of Commerce is not on our side, Sean, is you've got to have a system where if you hire illegal aliens, your business is shut down.
It is simply that simple.
Having dragnets, having Checkpoints across America, I think.
I'm not sure most Americans would appreciate that because we are the land of the free.
And also there's a manpower issue.
So who's going to do that?
That is a requirement of federal statute.
The feds don't even have enough manpower to do that in one city, let alone all cities.
But if you make it a statutory requirement that you, you the employer, I don't care if you're Walmart.
I don't care if you're Amazon.
If you're hiring illegal aliens, you get shut down if you are hiring illegal aliens.
That would be a great beginning.
But Sean, I'm on your side.
We've got to get serious.
No more Marquis of Queensbury rules, because guess what?
The other side is in to win it, and they are utterly, utterly evil.
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Um, when did we last try Jim Jordan?
I got him on the list for this week.
He's been, he was on vacation for like 10 days.
Okay.
Okay.
Hm?
Three and a half minutes.
minutes.
He's-- yeah, he's Skype.
Hello, Rumblers, all 1,100 of you Welcome, welcome back.
Glad to see Seb back, of course, as we all are.
All right, what did we have?
We had Zuckerberg, but we haven't had the other Rogan cut.
Yeah.
All right.
Oh, I didn't do food for the poor in this hour anywhere.
I'll have to do it here instead of Uncle Tom, I guess.
And then I'll do Uncle Tom in C. Are we dining, Cash?
Jeff's calling him now.
Do you want me to come in with another Ukraine video then?
Uh, yeah.
Alright.
And then I'm going to use Cut 5, Frigloozy.
Cut 5, Frigloozy.
Alrighty.
I think we have him.
All right, let me know the mics are live.
We have him.
Two minutes.
Skype one, Alex.
All right.
Hey, Cash.
How's it going?
Good, good.
So you never come across this guy, Frank Figliuzzi, at the Bureau?
I didn't personally know, but they've all been calling for my, you know, jailing.
It's good.
You're over the target.
Yeah, well, they're coming after me.
Can we get you on the Newsmax show this Thursday?
For like 7 minutes.
Wait, is it a pre-tape?
Yes, it's like 1.40, 1pm.
Yeah, I can just do Skype?
Yes.
For your show, right?
Yeah, for my Newsmax TV show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
Just tell them to work it out with Erica, we'll figure that out.
Yeah.
All right, 70 seconds.
All right, coming in with a Ukraine cut.
Liner, Alex, or no liner?
No liner?
All right.
You can come back down through, you guy.
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All right, I feel like we should have him on permanent rotation every single day here on the show, on my Newsmax show.
Get him on a retainer.
Why?
Because he's the man who knows!
He's at the epicenter of it all.
The left wants to take him down almost as much as they want to take down our former boss, President Trump.
Why?
Because he's going to take them down first.
He is former Deputy Director of National Intelligence, former Chief of Staff of the Pentagon, and so many other things.
Kash Patel!
Welcome back to America First.
Seb, thanks so much for having me on, and I like that new intro.
It's classy.
It's sharp.
Yeah, and we had the James Bond music as well for this segment, so, you know, you gotta get the tuxedo on next time, and you gotta have a cigarette case that has a bomb in it or something, but we'll work out on the styling.
Let's have some fun now, because you are clearly, dude, over the target.
There's a former Assistant Director for Counterintelligence at the FBI, who now gets paid by The Swamp to talk on TV shows nobody watches, called Frank Figliussi, who had this to say on a radio program about somebody called Cash.
Cash Patel better get an attorney soon, because Cash Patel is the guy saying, I knew all about this standing declassification order.
I know all about it.
Oh, good.
You'll be telling a grand jury about that process, Cash.
Are you afraid, Cash, of this individual?
No, since he seems to have the same approach to everything else as the fake news mafia and the corrupt FBI agents has, which is to lie and put on a disinformation campaign.
As I said publicly, it's been reported that there was a standing order.
And so I believe that to be accurate, because it was made by journalists who, you know, report accurately.
But this joker is in the same boat as the other crooks that were terminated from government service as a result of my Russiagate investigation that I led with Chairman Nunes.
The same people calling for me to get a lawyer, let's just put it on display.
Peter Strzok, Andy McCabe, Andrew Weissman, and whoever this no net nobody is with a fancy title in government are all people whose glorified FBI I destroyed because I put out the truth.
And I will never stop doing that.
And most of these guys got fired because of my investigation.
So it's amazing that some guy in a t shirt given some podcast at the JV puff powder parade is online telling me to get a lawyer.
If it comes to that for me to tell the American people the truth, I did it for the Jan 6 subpoena and it cost $200,000, there's no amount of money in the world that is worth more than the truth and I will fight for it every single day.
God bless you.
That's an amazing statement.
We've got the title for our segment, I think.
I mentioned this in the last segment, breaking news from The Washington Times.
On Friday, out of the WFO, the Washington Field Office, Special Agent in Charge Tim Tebolt was escorted out of the building after...
Oh yeah, escorted out of the building after whistleblower allegations that he showed political bias in the handling of politically sensitive cases.
Is something finally happening or after six years should we still be very very cynical Cash?
Maybe both.
So look, Thibault is one of the guys I put on, and I've been the one saying, listen, there are certain people you can put on blast in the FBI if their actions are corrupt and they're violating their oaths of office and duty to the American people.
Thibault is a perfect example of a guy who repeatedly got promoted for running and working on corrupt prosecutions and investigations.
Russiagate, Hillarygate, Hunter Biden laptop, Whitmer.
This guy was promoted into superior positions for failing to do his job, but worse, Probably intentionally lying and breaking the law.
And that's why all these whistleblowers have been coming out.
And if you remember, Chris Wray was asked about, you know, all of these promotions, and he basically blew off Congress under oath to catch a private jet so he can have a taxpayer-funded airplane ride to his Adirondack vacation home, then answer questions before the United States Senate on whistleblower protection.
And now it's no coincidence this guy that we named was escorted out.
So what should be the subsequent action?
I think there's 13, 14 whistleblowers that Jim Jordan has at the Judiciary Committee.
Is this the beginning of a snowball?
How should the whole whistleblower phenomena be handled to have the requisite effect on the Bureau?
So it's pretty, it's put simply, you do it the opposite of what the Democrats and the radical left did when they conjured up Charmella and the fake whistleblower campaign to falsely impeach President Trump and then got caught by, partly by our investigations and the declassification that President Trump wanted out so the American public could see.
So what you do is you take the majority back, you encourage more whistleblowers to come in, you protect them, and you get the information that they are telling I need to get your comment on this in the next segment.
We've played it already, but it's massively important.
This is the CEO of Facebook on the biggest podcast in the world, Joe Rogan with Mark Zuckerberg.
does as well, but they only redact selectively, as you and I know, Seb, and mask and unmask when they want.
I need to get your comment on this in the next segment.
We've played it already, but it's massively important.
This is the CEO of Facebook on the biggest podcast in the world, Joe Rogan with Mark Zuckerberg.
Cut 12.
Play cut.
How do you guys handle things when they're a big news item that's controversial?
Like, there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story, the New York Post.
Yeah, so you guys censored that as well?
So we took a different path than Twitter.
I mean, basically the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert.
We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election.
We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that.
So just be vigilant.
Yeah, just be vigilant by suppressing the story wherever possible, making sure that the original reporting from the oldest newspaper in America, the New York Post, is suppressed.
And as we now know, more than 70% of American voters would have said they would have voted differently.
They would not have voted for Joe Biden if they had known about the original laptop from hell story.
Just how corrupt is the FBI?
What can we do about it?
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So you hadn't heard that about Tebalt? - Yes.
No, that's, you know, good news.
I did not know that.
I was too busy getting shelled in the world's most infamous search warrant in U.S.
history.
I missed that one.
Yeah, I love the way they shelled you.
They quoted you in a Breitbart article.
I mean, that's really some heavy-duty FBI, you know, legwork.
That's like, that's real investigation.
Taking an article, quoting Cash Battalion Breitbart dot com.
It's kind of like, you know, taking an article from the Steele dossier and David Isikoff and Michael Cornyn and putting it into a FISA application, which was total bullshit.
But, you know.
These guys are just... This is the thing that so gets me, that they're evil bastards, but they're also so incompetent, Cash.
They're just arrogant.
But the tradecraft is so crap.
Well, yeah, because they're like, no one's ever gonna catch us, and if they do, we'll just lie.
Right.
Incredible.
Can you play cut six and cut seven again?
- No.
My top level expert legal analysis of the affidavit is, why ain't this dude in jail?
Like, what does this man have to do to go to jail?
I think one of the things that's gotten kind of like messed or missed in the media narrative for the last 24 hours is that these 15 boxes that we're focused on, that's what they already found on the man.
The man, President Sticky Fingers already stole classified documents, top secret documents.
Dude had the knock list from Mission Impossible sitting in his basement, right?
What's so important about Zuckerberg admitting to colluding with the federal government is that this once again proves Facebook's censorship isn't just a private entity acting alone, but this is Facebook, a state actor, and therefore the full First Amendment protections apply.
Never again do I want to hear another member of Congress say, oh, but Facebook is a private company.
No, they're a state actor silencing, suppressing, and reducing the distribution of How's Fight with Cash doing?
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Wow.
Yep.
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Fabulous.
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We are back with former Deputy Director of National Intelligence, Chief of Staff of the Pentagon, Kash Patel.
You can follow him at FightWithKash.com or Kash with a K on Truth Social.
Cash, I need to get the...
Skinny, I need to get the bottom line on why Mar-a-Lago happened.
When you were on this show last and elsewhere afterwards, you've kind of inferred the following and tell me if I'm reading too much into it or whether you'd like to elucidate and expand on it.
President Trump gave out a standing order on the declassification of information regarding the Russia hoax.
The raid on Mar-a-Lago was unjustified because a president can access any classified information until the day he dies and the question is what were they looking for?
Were they on a fishing trip or did they want to take back and reclassify documents embarrassing to the FBI, the CIA and the NSA pertaining to Crossfire Hurricane and the targeting of the Trump campaign in the Trump White House.
Is that really why Mar-a-Lago happened?
Help us out.
Help us understand, Cash.
I've always said that all roads lead back to Russiagate and Crossfire Hurricane.
And now we know why.
The president, that is President Trump, issued multiple declassification orders while he was still president of the United States.
And as you know, with the Unilateral Classification Authority resting in the President when he says it, it's done.
Now, fast forward to this year and this whole Mar-a-Lago raid.
Look who is working in the FBI and DOJ.
The same national security officials at DOJ that I used to work for as a terrorism prosecutor that authorized the Russiagate hoax are now back in charge running DOJ.
Peter Strzok's mentees, the same counterintelligence crew, guys like the Bolton Company, are back at the FBI running the Mar-a-Lago raid.
These are the individuals that authorized the biggest criminal conspiracy in U.S.
history, know the corruption, know what Devin and I exposed, but more importantly, know that Devin and I only got 60% out, we've always said that, and President Trump declassified the remaining 40%.
Why don't they want you to see this?
It's the same thing.
It's a cover-up of their unlawful activities.
And Devin and I know what's in there, but we've never said it because we don't want to get into their political trap.
We know it's declassified.
President Trump ordered it.
Now they go raid his home and say what?
FBI counterintelligence ongoing investigation.
It doesn't matter if it was declassified or not.
We can't show you the records ever.
So have they painted President Trump and his allies, like yourself, like Devin, into a corner if they say this is part of an active investigation with national security aspects?
They've won, though.
No.
So they said they tried to pull that during Russiagate, our oversight of Russiagate, of the crossfire hurricane investigation.
And the likes of Rod Rosenstein and Chris Wray would come in and say, we have an ongoing investigation.
We said, hey, We don't want to interfere with your ongoing investigation, but Congress has a constitutional oversight responsibility as a separate co-equal branch of government.
You must provide documents pursuant to a congressional subpoena.
And they, of course, stonewalled because they knew that once we found the documents, that they showed their corruption, their agents and their lawyers lying, who've been caught lying and breaking the law and going to a federal court and lying to get a false surveillance warrant on a president and his campaign.
But what they did was delay and obstruct.
And what we can't do right now, since we're in the minority in Congress, is fence their money.
And that's what's going to happen come November when the gavels switch.
You'll be amazed, Seb, at how many documents you get when you withhold money from the FBI and DOJ pursuant to a congressional subpoena.
We did it once.
We should have done it 15 times so we could have gotten all this stuff out.
But if you think I'm wrong, just go back and look at the thousands of text messages it took me two years to declassify until I was at DNI after I'd left the Russiagate investigation about the Lovebirds and everything else and their corrupt conduct.
They were making headlines noon to zen.
Because it was corruption at its highest.
And the stuff that remains to be shown to the American public is just as bad.
Yeah, I remember those texts and how they actually turned into a play.
And I think they will be appearing most likely in the new movie about Hunter Biden as well.
Last question.
10 seconds.
Is there any danger that any of these documents that the American people need to see will be destroyed?
Oh, You know, the one thing I was not able to find in Russiagate was anyone actually destroying documents because of their arrogance.
They just thought we would never find them and see them.
So I'm not sure that there's much danger in it, but there's danger if we falter and don't do the mission.
All right.
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One corrupt FBI agent has fallen.
One corrupt FBI agent has fallen.
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They're the fascists, but as ever, There's an alternate universe in which they live.
This is Corinne Jean-Pierre, the White House resident idiot who has a different label for the people that she thinks are the real fascists.
Only semi-fascism coming.
Yeah.
Is this something we're going to hear more of, that phrase?
Is this something the president's going to kind of embrace?
Or is there any sense that it was, you know, a little impromptu and it's going to turn into a kind of basket of deplorables thing that he regrets and tries to be quiet about?
Look, I was very clear when laying out and defining what MAGA Republicans have done, and you look at the definition of fascism, and you think about what they're doing in attacking our democracy, what they're doing in taking away our freedoms, and you think about what they're doing in attacking our democracy, what they're doing in taking away our freedoms, I mean, that is what that is, is...
It is very clear.
And that's why he made that powerful speech that you heard from him last night.
And he has not shied away from saying that.
Last week I asked on my Twitter, and I have, what, 1.2 million followers on Twitter alone, I asked just one Democrat, Anyone, I don't care where you live, what state you're in, give me proof of one American, just one American who has the right to vote legally, whose vote has been suppressed by the Republicans.
It's funny.
I didn't get a response.
But this is clearly the new speaking point.
This is a new narrative talking point because even the senile old man in the White House is talking about the semi-fascism of you, the MAGA voters.
Cut 14.
What do you mean by semi-fascism, sir?
You know what I mean.
No, we're asking you.
Were you funny if Biden, in fact, tried to define fascism?
Maybe raiding a former president's home who's running for the presidency imminently.
Maybe that's a better definition of fascism than labeling 74 million Americans who love America as fascists.
That's the left.
That's what they think of you.
Let's go to your calls.
Joe Sacramento, Line 5.
Welcome, Joe.
Hey, thanks, Seb.
Thanks.
Yeah, I've enjoyed listening to Cash.
He pretty much laid it on the line, and we've got to cut to the chase.
The FBI, many of these people, probably the senior most officials, they're guilty of treason.
And if you really look up what treason is, it's the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state, in other words, the nation.
To which the offender owes allegiance.
These guys swore to defend the Constitution of the United States.
And I don't know if it began with Comey before that, but all these people struck and all these other officials.
They've been committing treason all along.
I think sadly it begins, it was less obvious with him, but it begins with the former director Louis Freeh who became, subtly, but became a political animal and then it just became out of control with the likes of Mueller and the likes of Comey, Stroke and everybody else.
So yeah, it is treason.
It is the overt or covert attempt to overthrow a regime.
You're absolutely right.
Thank you, Joe, for your clarity.
That's why we're here.
Let's go to Craig Lancaster, Pennsylvania, line one.
Yeah, hey, Sebastian.
I was just going to get this out of the way.
Can I call you Seabass also?
You may.
I don't get it.
But if Devin Nunes likes to call me Seabass, go ahead.
Either that or Sally Bats.
Yeah, that's the best one ever.
So anyway, we're going to just kind of go over the law a little bit.
I keep hearing these Republicans saying, You know, it's against the law, this illegal raid, and all this stuff.
And I just want to remind people that law is only what can be enforced.
Like, there is a paper out there that says it's illegal, but it really doesn't matter what the paper says if it's not being enforced.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I was just going to say, too, that force is from the most powerful set of people.
That's who enforces the law.
I mean, that's the way civilization has always been.
So, you gotta ask yourself, who is the most powerful set of people here?
And normally, it's the American citizen.
But, the American citizen has sat on their hands for too long, and they are no longer holding the power.
It's obvious.
Well, you're getting into some very deep philosophical stuff, but they have, so in the Westphalian system we say there is a monopoly of power that the state exercises, we give up, we provide them a mandate when we elect The chief executive and our representatives to practice that monopoly on the use of force.
But in the American case, Craig, and this is why we are also incredibly blessed.
And this is why I don't fear ultimately for the United States.
We have that guarantee.
We have that circuit breaker.
We have that civil right that makes all the other civil rights possible.
The fact that we have 32 million new gun owners in America in just the last three years means that we are stronger than ever.
If this regime doesn't just persecute President Trump and those who worked for him and his family members, but begins to persecute Americans in sizable numbers beyond the 800 who were hunted down after January 6th, I'm sorry, American people are going to take back their country.
They should do it politically, at local elections, at statewide elections, at federal elections.
But ultimately, we are the guarantors of our own freedom.
The Second Amendment is the ultimate guarantee and it's in our hands because our Founding Fathers were clear.
When there are usurpations of our rights, sometimes the Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants.
It's why the Commonwealth of Virginia has the flag that it has, Six Semper Tyrannis.
That's what makes America unique, the only nation in the world.
It is founded on the principle of individual liberty based upon the fact that we are made in the image of our Creator.
Thank you, Craig, for our little philosophical sidebar there.
So incredibly important.
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It's not a very good campaign thing, is it, to say, empty out the state and go to Florida.
I think they already lost, what was it, two seats in the census?
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Tom, welcome to America First.
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You're not a hundred percent hunky?
No, but in spirit I might be at this point with Viktor Orban and you.
Anyway, Herr Biden and et al have called Trump supporters mega fascists.
Now Karl Marx, as we all know, the architect of the system, Resulting in more global deaths than anybody else in history instructed his followers like this.
Accuse your enemies of exactly what you yourselves are doing while you're doing it!
Now, Tyra Biden and his cadre of criminals continue to project their crimes and evil onto Trump and his supporters.
And there are very few Republicans who have the cojones to call them out.
When we can have a daily rebuttal and it could be it could be ridiculing them at the same time as nailing them to the cross, which they so richly deserve.
Yeah, there's nothing.
Yeah, there's nothing Christ-like about them, but yes, they deserve ridicule every single day.
That's why we're here, Tom.
Next up, a very special guest, President Trump's son-in-law, to tell us the truth about what went on in the White House for the first four years of the first Trump administration.
Stay on this channel.
Thank you.
Okay.
Okay.
You ready, Alex?
Okay.
We have put together a new framework for the government.
We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. - Let me say it again.
The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
We have been working on something big.
Show me the money.
Can we meet?
I've been working with Greg Phillips.
He has a deep background in election intelligence.
True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
No one has more data than we do.
We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
What is a mule?
This is not grandma out walking her dog.
Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
This is organized crime.
In no way, in no time, is that legal.
This is organized crime.
Do you have video evidence?
Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
That's provable.
And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
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Welcome dear friends, this is America First One on One with me, your host Sebastian Gorka, former strategist and deputy assistant to the 45th President of the United States, and God willing, former strategist and deputy assistant to the 45th President of the United States, and God willing, if we do
As I travel the country and give speeches on any topic to any community, sooner or later I get the same question, wherever I am, and the question is, What's he really like?
And I tell people, what you see is what you get.
He's not a Washington politician behind closed doors in the Oval.
He's exactly the same if there's just two of you, as if he is in front of 60,000 people in a stadium.
However, I will say, in my time in the White House, There was only one time I ever saw my erstwhile boss really, really angry.
He is a man of good humor, but one day it was tested, and it was the day of this press conference and the related calumny against him and his family.
Play cut.
Let me be very clear.
I did not collude with Russia, nor do I know of anyone else in the campaign who did so.
I had no improper contacts.
I have not relied on Russian funds for my businesses.
And I have been fully transparent in providing all requested information.
Donald Trump had a better message and ran a smarter campaign.
And that is why he won.
Yes, it is indeed why he won.
Why was President Trump very angry?
Because his son-in-law had to make that statement in front.
I was in the oval as that was being made.
And it was all part and parcel of the smear tactics of not just the four years of his presidency, but continuing to this very day.
And we are delighted.
We're honored to have a Former colleague of mine from the White House.
There are no photographs of me and him for some reason, because he stayed in the background.
He shunned the limelight.
There are photographs, of course, with me and his beautiful wife.
Let's just pop that up on the screen.
Of course, the lovely Ivanka Trump.
He is, of course, Jared Kushner.
Jared, welcome to America First.
Thank you.
It's an honor to be with you.
And it was really fun working together.
And thank you for all your amazing contributions to us during the campaign and in the White House.
And then even when you went to the show, we were all very appreciative of what you were doing.
Well, that's too kind.
That's too kind.
We're not here to talk about me.
We're here to talk about you.
Your book launched last week.
It is already within 24 hours.
Best bestseller.
It is called Breaking History.
A White House memoir.
You need to order it right now.
Let's first, we have perhaps the most MAGA show in America, we have an America First base across the nation, 3 million viewers, some of whom may take umbrage at this interview, and I'm going to say to them, tough, listen and learn, because I want to dispel the illusions and the fake news from in the White House.
We didn't work directly, however, I was placed on the Trade Policy Council as an observer, and I watched you co-chair it with Gary Cohen.
What was it, every Tuesday morning?
Is that right, Jared?
Am I remembering right?
And I saw, I watched you there, I didn't throw my money in, my voice in too often, except when it was about China.
But what I saw was a young, very intelligent man trying to make his father-in-law's administration and the America First vision a success.
From the outside, you'd hear all these stories about, oh my gosh, there are subversives and camps and it's Steve versus Jared.
Will you tell us the truth about what it was like inside the White House and how the misconceptions last to this very day?
So first of all, it was one of the most wild experiences you could ever have, especially in those early days.
I think that when President Trump ran for office in 2016, there was an article in the New York Times, which I've now come to understand what that actually is worth, but it basically talked about how his trade policies were upending 100 years of orthodoxy in terms of trade thinking.
And when we got into power, it was one thing to say what President Trump said on the campaign, which is we need to stop our manufacturing jobs from going overseas.
I want to see car plants starting to be built here in America and not in Mexico.
I don't want to be, you know, hostage to China for all the different things that we are.
And he had us a people with different sets of experiences.
So we had on one end, you know, Peter Navarro and on one end, Gary Cohn.
And then we had in the middle, we had Wilbur Ross, we had Bob Lighthizer, we had myself and Steve Bannon.
We were more trying to get the agreements, get people to come together to figure out what is a cohesive trade policy for an America First agenda looks like.
And ultimately, Bob Lighthizer ended up emerging as the tip of the spear.
Took him a while to get Get confirmed.
I think Congress was very nervous that he actually was going to be able to do the things that Trump wanted to do.
But once he took leadership of that, he really became a mentor of mine and somebody who really taught me a lot about not only why Trump's trade policy and instincts were correct, but also how do you implement them.
And I really talk about that journey in the book.
I go through Bob Lighthizer, who really is a hero and one of the most unbelievable characters.
Eight billion people on this planet, but I don't think Trump could have found a better person to implement his trade policy.
But it goes through our negotiations with Mexico, our negotiations with China, our negotiations with Canada, Japan, South Korea, and how President Trump was able to make those deals.
And I also learned through those processes why politicians don't take on trade deals.
Trade deals are zero-sum.
He was putting tariffs on.
He was using a lot of threats.
And it was disrupting industry, but it was short-term pain, which most politicians think about, versus long-term gain for the country.
And again, just through the USMCA trade deal alone, which is the largest trade deal in the history of the world between US, Mexico and Canada, it's $1.3 trillion a year in trade.
About 500,000 manufacturing jobs are going to come back to America.
It's helping the auto sector here.
It's helping our farmers like crazy.
And it's been a very, very big success.
So like you, Sebastian, I was really just trying to figure out, how do we give the president real options?
I understood his intent, but especially in those early days, there was a lot of disagreements on how to get there.
And sometimes people leaked that to the press, and they tried to make different camps of nationalists versus globalists.
I view it that we were all just staff and that we had one president.
He had a vision.
Our job was to try to give him options.
And then once he would make a decision, we had to vigorously execute.
And if you look at the body of the work that occurred, I think that it was really a very brilliant trade policy, very revolutionary from especially the Republican orthodoxy, but something that really changed the Republican Party.
And I think the way a lot of people think about trade.
Yeah, I have to say I'm so glad you concentrate so much on Ambassador Lighthouse.
It was a delight to watch him to operate a true professional, a guy who knows how DC works, but also understood what the America First policy platform meant.
Jared, you come from the same world as President Trump.
Very successful businessman, founder of Affinity Partners, named one of 40 Under 40 by Fortune magazine.
When it comes to taking on those entrenched values in D.C., but also in the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce and elsewhere, Was it a rude awakening?
How much of a shock to your system was it when you realized just how entrenched the usual way of business was and that they didn't want anybody to disturb it?
So maybe that's why it took outsiders to do it because people who are more experienced in Washington would have known the pain that they were in for to try to deal with it.
I give an example of how one of the gentlemen from the Bush administration came to see me.
I guess they saw me maybe because of these media reports that you were referring to earlier as maybe a more sympathetic person to talk to.
And he said, look, I agree with your aims on China, but I really would like you guys not to use tariffs.
And I said, well, you guys had eight years to do this.
So you're basically saying, what should you recommend?
I don't know.
I said, well, so you want us to get a different result than you got by doing it the same way you did it.
I said, you have to trust Mr. Trump, President Trump to do it the way he wants.
And again, the results spoke for themselves.
And, you know, even back to your saying before, like what I came to see about the trade debate is just to simplify it is that, you know, you have people who basically talk about globalization and distributing our supply chain.
But what I learned is that the benefits of it are distributed, right?
So if you make your T-shirts in Vietnam or China, everyone pays 50 cents less for a T-shirt, which the benefits distributed.
But what they don't cover is that the costs of it are very concentrated.
And we went through this period in America for 30, 40 years with the horrible NAFTA trade year, allowing China to get into the World Trade Organization, where they didn't even follow the rules and were able to keep their developing country status for a long time, which gave them many unfair advantages.
And what happened was, is you had a lot of factories and industry hollowed out from America.
And so you take a city like Baltimore, where a steel pan will close, the jobs are shipped overseas, you have 1,000 people lose their jobs, some of them will find new jobs, but some of them will go to crime, some of them will go on in government benefits, some will get addicted to drugs, and that really hollowed out communities and had a big drop down. and that really hollowed out communities and had a big So what it did to our country without a transition plan was really awful.
And we saw firsthand traveling the country that a lot of people felt very forgotten and unrepresented by the political class, people who were either from the Bush clan or the Clinton clan, who'd been in power in Washington for the 30 years before.
So Trump was really an outsider politician.
Absolutely stunning success.
And his trade policy was one of the most, I think, refreshing and satisfactory things that he did and really most successful as well.
Absolutely.
Without a doubt.
Absolutely stunning success.
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So Jared, you know, after I left the administration, the amazing work continued.
One of the most incredible successes are the, I can't keep track of them, five, six, seven peace deals that were part of the Abraham Accords.
At the beginning, well, let me show a little clip.
This is my greatest regret.
of recent years.
I'd left the administration but you guys reached out to me and invited me to the official opening of our new embassy in Jerusalem.
I couldn't go!
I had a prior familial engagement, a historic day.
So sad I wasn't there, but here's a little reminder of that glorious moment.
When we stand together for the principles and the values we share, we shine a light of justice unto the world.
Israel proves every day the boundless power of freedom.
This land is the only land in the Middle East in which Jews, Muslims, and Christians, and people of all faiths, participate and worship freely according to their beliefs.
Israel protects women's rights, freedom of speech, and the right of every individual to reach their God-given potential.
These are the same values that the United States cherishes.
These are the values that bind us together.
I wish I had been there, but let me share with our listeners a little story you may not recall.
You were a point person, along with Jason Greenblatt, for the Abraham Accords, for trying to bring peace and stability to the region.
And as somebody who's been working in national security for, what, 25, 30 years by then, I came to you and I said, hey, if you need, I know I've got a different portfolio, but I'm happy to try and help you and give you a couple of pointers.
And you said, sure, okay, go and talk to Jason.
And I went and spoke to Jason.
And Jason said the following, who I think, was he a lawyer by training?
What's Jason's background?
Yeah, he's a lawyer.
And I sat down with him and I said, look, I'm here if you need me.
And he said the following, said, thanks, Seb.
But we are newbies.
We need to go there and see for ourselves the ground truth and make our own judgment.
And I thought, hmm, pretty impressive.
I didn't want to say, you will find out very rapidly there's one party in these negotiations that isn't acting in good faith and it's not the Israelis.
But you did the due diligence.
You brought it to a fruition that is stunning because 23 years of Republican and Democrat presidents breaking that promise to Israel.
I want people to get the book.
You've got to get the book Breaking History.
But talk to us about your experience in bringing those incredible deals to the table, Jared.
And again, we appreciated the help at the time, but we were at a place at that point where we were doing a lot more listening than implementing.
Our first year—and again, I write about this a lot in the book—was President Trump asked me to work on this file, and I didn't know if he was hazing me at the time.
He just felt like it couldn't get any worse, right?
If you remember in 2016, ISIS had a caliphate the size of Ohio.
They were beheading journalists.
They were murdering Christians.
You had Islamic extremism rampant on the Internet.
You had the Pulse nightclub shooting, the San Bernardino shooting from people who were radicalized on the Internet.
Syria had a civil war where there was 500,000 people dead.
It was a nightmare.
Iran was flush with cash on a glide path to a nuclear weapon, and all of our allies felt very betrayed.
So President Trump really sent me and Jason out there and Avi to really just start listening and to try to understand.
And actually I write about a lot of my early interactions with the leaders in these countries where my number one question for them was, America has a lot of power.
If you were us, what would you do?
And then what I tried to do is I tried to focus on what's an end state that could be sustainable, right?
So when I was starting to study political deals and I was realizing that they're different from business deals and that in business deals you have a conclusion of a transaction and then there's an exchange of some kind of consideration, right?
In a political deal you basically have one paradigm.
You create a new transaction and that creates conditions for a new paradigm and that paradigm will, you know, will evolve based on the conditions that are set.
So I was asking those questions and trying to figure out what's an end state that could be achievable.
And, you know, I originally bought into John Kerry's conventional wisdom that he—the conventional wisdom that exists that he espoused, which was that you will never have peace between Israel and the Arab countries until you have peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
But the more I started asking questions—and again, I go through this extensively in the book—the more I realized that maybe that wasn't the case, and I tried things differently.
I go through the book the different things I tried over and over.
I say we succeeded on plan C, but only because we went through the alphabet three times with failures beforehand.
Ultimately, we were trying to align people around joint interests, get them to Try to do things defensively against joint threats.
But peace is really about the future and getting people to figure out how to create a better paradigm and environment for their people to achieve better lives.
And that's what the enlightened leaders were doing.
And then you had the leadership in Iran and the Palestinians who were basically using conflicts or hatred of Israel in order to justify their grip on power and maintain their kleptocracies that they've been able to run for a while.
And so we really just did it a different way.
But we were criticized very heavily for three years for not doing it the way that the experts had been doing it.
But my view was, since I have a high likelihood of failing, let me at least fail, number one, in a logical way, doing something that I thought made sense and also in an original way.
But luckily, we broke through.
We made six peace deals at the end in the last six months.
I think that had we had more time, we would have done at least six more.
But there was tremendous momentum, and it's been unfortunate that the current administration has not—again, they're coming around more and more every day because of gravity and because what they're doing isn't working.
But I wish they would have followed the plan that we laid out for them when we left for—had it, quite frankly, finished the job.
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Very quickly, Jared, are you shocked by how quickly things have deteriorated?
So I've been surprised, and maybe I shouldn't be surprised, right?
Again, I've dealt with enough government negotiators that the way that they ran to Iran, basically on their knees, begging them to do a deal has just been really pathetic.
And quite frankly, it's led to a much worse outcome than we would have achieved otherwise.
When we left office, Iran was really on their last leg.
We'd taken their oil down from about 2.6 million barrels a day to about 100,000 barrels a day.
They were out of foreign reserves.
Their economy was cratering.
And the advice we gave was just, you know, just ignore them.
Tell them, you know, doing a deal is not that popular.
You know, just we've got to focus on climate change and China and COVID and, you know, call us if you want to make a good deal.
Instead, they did the opposite.
They ran there with weakness.
And the Iranians are phenomenal negotiators.
You know, they figured out Trump used to say that the Iranians have never won a war, but they've never lost a negotiation.
And unfortunately, the way that they've been negotiating them has just been from a position of weakness.
But I will say that, you know, the strength of the Abraham Accords has been so, so impressive to me, maybe even beyond what I expected, because it was such a young agreement that that nexus of strength that it's created is almost a counter to even the somewhat negligent or awful policy that the U.S. has brought to that region.
And they have tried to reverse course, right?
They are now—they wouldn't call it the Abraham Accords for a year.
Now they're calling it the Abraham Accords because that was happening anyway.
They first said they weren't going to work with Saudi Arabia.
Now they went to Saudi Arabia for a trip, and they're begging them for oil and different things, but that they should be working with them on.
Our vision for what we thought the right end state was was to figure out how from Haifa in Israel to Muscat in Oman, how you can create an arc of stability in the region— You need economic security.
You need physical security.
And if you can get those countries working together, over time, Iraq, which is more stable than what we inherited, will go into the fold.
And then Iran will have no choice but to really join and try to be a productive nation where they see everyone else's citizens having opportunity and doing better.
Then their citizens are going to demand the same.
I have to say, it's truly absolutely stunning.
I want to just officially doff my cap and salute what you, Jared, and Avi did.
Things that we were told were absolutely impossible.
God bless all of you for your success.
Jared, we've talked about the Middle East, the promise.
I remember when President Trump said to the cabinet, I'm doing this because I promised to move the embassy and recognize Jerusalem to the American people.
I promised our friends in Israel, and by the way, it's the right thing to do.
Given his love of Israel, I think probably the most philo-semitic president since FDR, I want to ask, I want to get your input, because I talk about this on the show frequently, and I want you to just message to all of our listeners and viewers, how is it for you
As a practicing Jew, whose wife converted, whose children are Jewish, to live through four years of having your father-in-law, his administration, people who worked for him like me, being called anti-Semites, racists and bigots.
How did, humanly, as a human being, how did you deal with that, Jared?
So the first time it happened, I was bothered by it because it was very different than the experience that I had.
But ultimately, I just came to see that it told me more about the people who are making these accusations than about him, right?
I know what's in his heart.
I know what he's practiced.
I know how he lived his life.
Look, this is somebody who's had friends in the black community for a long time.
He was in rap songs.
He was involved with a lot of different And then all of a sudden they're calling him racist because he's a Republican.
Same thing with the Jewish community.
He had Jewish grandchildren.
He'd been a big supporter of the state of Israel for a long time.
When I told him Ivanka was thinking of converting, first he asked me, he says, well, why don't you convert?
I said, well, that's actually a great question, but that's not what we're going to do.
And he says, you know, I'm in New York real estate.
Everyone I know is Jewish.
Everyone thinks I'm Jewish too.
And he's been very respectful.
But look, I think that with Trump, there's just something about him.
Maybe it's because he tells the truth and maybe it's because, you know, he goes right to the core of issues and, you know, he wasn't looking to play the game of Washington.
He was a true outsider.
He said what he felt.
And he really, you know, looked to solve issues, not to just manage issues.
And that drove people crazy.
And they would try to, you know, call them all kinds of names, but never with a basis.
So, like I said, it just showed me who wasn't thinking clearly.
And I just, you know, again, it's not acceptable to make accusations where you don't have basis and to use such horrible terms in areas where the actual, you know, accusation is not warranted.
How difficult was it?
What coping mechanisms did you use?
I mean, I have to say I was used to being attacked.
I saw myself as a proxy for the president.
First weekend I was the person thrown out to explain the The travel ban from terrorist countries, and then it all started.
But when they started attacking my wife, I had one journalist write 52 hit pieces on me in six weeks.
Then they attacked my 18-year-old son in a hit piece.
How did the family Kushner deal with that?
Were you shocked by the vituperation of people who I imagine, prior to your political activities, would hang out with you at fancy cocktail parties in Manhattan?
Yeah, so we kind of sensed that things were going to be different.
Look, I think that we had, you know, I write about my experiences in life with my father and how he was persecuted for, you know, politically by Chris Christie and ultimately spent a year in prison and how that taught me that in life things can get taken from you and you have to appreciate what's real and know the difference between real people and not real people.
So I think that I had a lot of friends who were real friends and I didn't lose any of them Uh, because of my experience, but I had a lot of acquaintances who I guess I knew from New York, who I just quite frankly, yeah, I was in Washington now.
We were too busy to spend time with them and we moved in a different direction.
The media, look, I mean, they, they, they wrote really nice things about Ivanka and myself when we were, uh, kind of center left New Yorkers.
And then they started writing, you know, the same people, you know, awful things about it.
Uh, but it just, like I said, it tells you more about them than you.
What was really hard for me was seeing some of my work colleagues, uh, who, who maybe had, you know, less, thin-skinned, then you or I also get attacked in such a vicious way.
And just seeing the hatred and the nastiness with which they pursued people in our administration.
But they were trying to load them up with legal bills or make them intimidated from serving.
And again, I'm so proud of—again, you read about different people in the administration who are more high profile, but if you see in the book, there's so many amazing people who served President Trump, did an incredible job.
I always would say the people who I tried to hire fit in the quadrant of, you know, high competency and low ego.
And these were people who went to Washington trying to get things done, often gave up jobs.
I always say how our founding fathers designed our system, where you're supposed to leave your farm, go serve, and then go back to your farm.
They don't want a career political class.
People are going to be there for 20, 30 years.
You know, we're going to rely on that power.
And so there was a lot of amazing people.
And I was very, very proud to see them all come together and accomplish so many things.
And that, again, another reason why I wrote this book is that the media did not cover our administration fairly or accurately.
There are so many things that happened in terms of how Trump got so much done under the Russia investigation, the fake impeachment, and how he withstood all those attacks, but also was able to lower taxes.
Get our economy rolling.
The wealth gap was shrinking for the first time in history.
Wages were rising.
Inflation was low.
Gas prices were low.
We had no war in Europe.
China was respecting us and fearing us.
And so it was just a very different paradigm.
And President Trump did an amazing job.
And I want people to understand, A, what it's like being in Washington during that time, and B, how he did it.
Yeah, that's the essence of the book, really.
The bird's eye view from inside the administration, from somebody right at the top, who, as far as I was concerned, was making sure that his father's mission, provided the mandate of 64 million Americans who chose him, was a success.
And my, it was a success, despite those who tried to undermine the administration and the vision.
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We've talked about the incessant assaults.
Sadly, Jared, they haven't stopped.
They haven't been vitiated by the fact that your father-in-law has left office.
I have to ask you about Mar-a-Lago.
As far as I'm concerned, as a person with a keen interest in history, the idea that somebody who is a former president less than two years ago Who in all likelihood will be the opposition candidate against the incumbent in two years time.
Has federal armed agents raid his private property, request the security cameras be switched off and we still don't know why they went in there.
As a child of those who escaped fascism and communism, I'm very worried for this country.
Do you share that concern?
Yeah, so I think there's two different things here.
One is, I look at our country, and they've been trying to get Donald Trump now for six years, right?
And the amount of investigations that they've had in him, starting with accusing him of Russia collusion, and then, you know, trying to impeach him for investigating corruption in Ukraine, and then they had Now they're saying that his values and his financial statements were too high or too low, even though nobody lost money.
And they're looking at all kinds of rinky-dink things.
And just it never really stops.
And so I think that for him, simply for giving up his life and his business to go and try to serve the American people, but because he was an outsider, he didn't go adapt to their rules.
He continued to fight for the things he promised his voters.
I think they've been punishing him, and they've been punishing him for a long time.
And, you know, I did think that two things were true.
One is I thought that our institutions would be a lot more pristine.
Again, I saw my father be a victim of what I thought was a political persecution.
But then we saw the same thing with the Russia investigation, where they basically falsified affidavits and FISA warrants in order to spy on our campaign and to entrap General Flynn and all the different things that they did, which really were We're more like a KGB than an FBI.
And then you have a situation now where they're raiding the home, not of a former president, that's bad, but of the leading political opponent for the people in power.
That's the type of thing I saw Bukele from El Salvador say that if he would have done that to his political opponent, the U.S.
government and the U.S.
media would be going crazy, calling him a dictator.
It's very disturbing how it's been done.
I also think, you know, then you have the Attorney General get up there and say, say, oh, we're not going to release, we're going to let our filing speak.
And then you have leak, leak, leak, leak, leak from people from the Justice Department.
That's the exact same thing that happened to us with the Russia investigation.
I write about in my book how I had a very innocent meeting with General Flynn, with the Russian ambassador, trying to start synchronizing strategy to work on Syria and ISIS together.
And then, you know, lo and behold, I get a call from The Washington Post saying I'm being investigated for trying to create a secret back channel with the Russians for a secure line.
And I was like, this is crazy.
And literally for three days, I'm watching CNN, you know, analysts hyperventilating, saying that I committed treason, you know, based on a leak from a source in the intel agency that turned out to be fully not true.
And so I think it's very scary, you know, what you have out there.
And, you know, my hope is that they just don't do anything that really is breaking the rules and crossing the line too much.
I think the country, the damage they would do to our institutions and people's faith in institutions would just be catastrophic.
Well, they've tried so many times in the last six years, from the Billy Bush tapes to Impeachment 1, Impeachment 2, Crossfire, Hurricane, the attacks against Manafort, Flynn, Bannon, Navarro, Southern District of New York, and now the January 6th Committee and the Raid on Mar-a-Lago.
Every time they fail, Because your father-in-law is a unique individual.
I know he's going to announce, God willing, if we do our part, he will be the President of the United States.
What happens then?
As somebody who worked inside the White House, my greatest concern, Jared, and I'm sure you share it, because you detail all the problems with even cabinet members like Tillerson, like Mattis, and then working with Bureaucrats who think they are in full control, like Fauci, is personnel.
Does President Trump have a plan to do things differently when it comes to personnel?
I know Johnny McEntee did a great job when, you know, we could get rid of Kelly and get Johnny back in, but things have to be different for a second Trump administration.
Is somebody working on that?
Will you reassure at least me and my listeners?
Well, first of all, it's always going to be Trump's decision what he does, whether he runs, and if he does and he's president again.
I think that for him, you have to remember that the first night he ever slept in Washington, he spent sleeping in the White House.
So he was never a mayor, never a governor.
A lot of the picks look good on paper.
He made some bad picks, but he made a lot of great picks, too.
And again, I go through in my book how he got so much done.
He couldn't have done it if he just had bad picks.
By the end of the administration, he had a lot of Uh, the right people in the right places, and we really were making great progress.
The economy was roaring, the world was peaceful, and so I think that he had a lot of great people, and he knows the good ones from the bad ones.
He also brought a whole new crop of people to Washington, people from the private sector like myself, who are outsiders, who came to serve the country, who were inspired by what he did, and that also was a very refreshing thing.
So there's actually an amazing organization called America First Policy Organization run by a woman, Brooke Rollins, who ran the domestic policy in the White House.
And I think now there are about 150 people.
It was some of the best and brightest from our administration who wanted to stay in the fight.
And they've been working very actively on cataloging all the disastrous things the Biden administration is doing, how they would then undo it if there's a Republican president that comes.
And really trying to identify the people who would be great to serve in government.
So they built a phenomenal organization.
It's very action-oriented.
And I think that they've identified a lot of things that could occur to fix it very quickly.
And I think that would be the biggest change, is that Trump understands that.
The levers of the government.
He understands who the right people are.
And our country has so much incredible potential.
But what they're doing with raising taxes, putting regulations back on, being provocative with China, getting us into a war in Europe, all these things are very avoidable.
And again, I think Trump or somebody who's following Trump's policies, I think can reverse a lot of these things very, very quickly.
And would Jared Kushner consider joining a second Trump administration?
I gotta ask the question!
Thank you.
It's hard to obviously say no definitive, but right now I'm loving my life in the private sector.
I'm enjoying it.
I get to spend time with my kids.
And, you know, again, I think as you've seen in the book, you know, my time in the White House was very grueling.
It's a 24-7 job.
I always say that the best work you do is actually preventing a really big problem from becoming a fatal problem.
You don't get credit for that.
That's like paying your mortgage.
You're supposed to do it.
But you never get a chance to rest.
And so it was a very intense action-packed four years.
I think the average duration somebody serves for is 18 months in the White House.
I did it with my spouse doing it as well, Ivanka, you know, for four years.
And it took a real toll on our family.
But we're very glad we did it.
We got a lot done and very, very proud of our service.
Just find out how much he got done in the name of America First and MAGA.
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Okay, Jared, we've only got a few minutes left.
Let's have some fun here.
We've talked about some We've spoken about some very, very serious issues.
What is it for those who haven't worked with the President, who haven't hung out with him one-on-one in the Oval Office like you or I have, or who aren't related to him, what would our listeners be surprised at when it comes to President Trump?
Not how many Diet Cokes he drinks, but give them a little glimpse behind the scenes about how this man operates and who he is.
Sure.
Well, number one is he's always having fun, and he's always laughing.
You know, the press always tries to depict him as angry, but he's got a wicked sense of humor, and he's also somebody who's soliciting input from everybody.
And sometimes he'll ask placebo questions to kind of see, you know, size you up to see how much you should take your opinion or not.
But one of my favorite stories from the book was when President Trump first got to the White House, he asked a gentleman named David who'd worked in the White House for a couple decades to help him move things around.
And he started walking around saying, let's take this picture off that wall.
Let's take this here, move those flags from there, move them into my office.
So he was rearranging everything.
And they had the whole team from the GSA moving pictures around, changing tables, putting in chandeliers.
And he was really trying to make the space into his own.
And at the end of kind of a couple-hour session, he says to David, he says, these guys were phenomenal.
He says, can I give him a couple hundred bucks as a tip to thank him?
And he says, no, they're federal government employees.
They can't get a tip from you.
But he was used to obviously doing it that way.
And then David said to me, he says, look, I've been here with this man for two days and I spent eight years.
I've talked to him more in two days than I did with President Obama in eight years.
And so I think that just shows who he is.
He'll talk to anyone.
He's very friendly.
And like I said with him, it's what you see is what you get.
And it's always fun.
I mean, Ivanka and I were playing golf with him this past weekend.
And he spent the whole time fixing my swing, telling me I got to go inside out instead of the other way.
And by the end, I was golfing much better.
And so he loves being a teacher.
He loves learning about different things.
And he's somebody who's just endlessly interested.
And he could change his mind, too.
And I always saw that as a strength.
I felt like one of my jobs as both a family member and as an advisor was to make sure he was hearing all kinds, all points of view.
And that frustrated some people sometimes because they wanted to ramrod him into making policy decisions by giving him just some facts.
But I always felt like he deserves to know all sides and that he was the one who was elected.
Let him make whatever decision he chooses.
And I had a lot of faith he would make the right decision.
And again, I go into the book a lot of the decisions he made and how we made them.
But time and time again, I think he made a lot of very wise decisions.
I have to second all of that, especially the humor.
As I said, in all my time in the White House, I only saw him angry once.
That was the day you had to give that press conference saying there was no Russia collusion.
And he said to me inside the Oval, he said, I was there for some completely different issue like Iran or something.
He looked up from his papers, he was sitting sideways at the Resolute desk, and he said to me, out of the blue, he said, And he was angry.
He said, they're never going to find anything because there is nothing.
That was as you were speaking about, you know, 20 meters outside the building on the on the north lawn.
All right.
Last thing I want to say is congratulations for everything you achieved as a part of the team.
I last spoke to him at Mar-a-Lago when we premiered 2000 Mules.
Can you confirm for us that his mood is still the old fighting spirit?
Nothing's changed.
He's a very consistent person.
If anything, they've been trying to get him for six years, and he's used to it.
His poll numbers are up, so he's happy with that.
He's feeling very strong.
I think that the time out of government, he's lost a little weight.
So I say his weight's down, his handicap's down, and his approval rating's up.
So if you look by those three metrics, he's very happy.
Well, he already had a very, very good golf game already.
The book is Breaking History, a White House Memoir by our guest, Jared Kushner.
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