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Aug. 26, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Kurt Schlichter LIVE: Fight the power!

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	This is Kurt Schlichter sitting in for the great Dr. Sebastian Gorka here on America First.
	I am honored to be holding down the command post here in beautiful Southern California, where I reside, in the belly of the beast, as it were.
	Communist Cali.
	You know, when I got here, it was the Golden State.
	Ronald Reagan was governor.
	Palm trees were swaying.
	The sun was shining.
	Opportunity was all ahead of us.
	I knew I could make my dreams come true.
	I had a chance to make my dreams come true.
	I went to school.
	I took out student loans and became a lawyer after I served in the United States Army.
	I'm a retired Army colonel, by the way.
	I got my law degree.
	I am a noted Los Angeles trial lawyer.
	I became a stand-up comic for a short time, wrote a lot of jokes, started writing for Andrew Breitbart.
	I am now senior columnist at townhall.com.
	I write novels, the Kelly Turnbull conservative action novels, number seven.
	Inferno is coming out in October.
	Make a note of it.
	I've got a new nonfiction book from our own Regnery Publishing out, We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
	What am I saying here, folks?
	Am I just running down my resume because I think I'm awesome?
	Well, I do think I'm awesome.
	I'm a Los Angeles trial lawyer.
	Do you want a trial lawyer who doesn't think he's awesome?
	You don't.
	Modesty?
	You never want a modest lawyer, folks.
	He might know something you don't.
	But the point I'm trying to make is that the American dream was alive for me, but I am older than dirt.
	This is about the young people.
	This is about the future of America, and the future of America is in danger.
	It's red alert, folks.
	The red light is flashing.
	Student loans!
	Well, Kurt, don't you want to help people who took out student loans?
	No!
	No, I don't.
	I mean, I want to help future potential borrowers by ending the student loan program completely.
	Now, I took out $70,000 in student loans.
	I paid back every cent.
	Also paid for law school with GI Bill and working.
	And my life experiences led me to understand the solution to the student loan problem, which is pay back your own loans.
	Okay, if you win Guy Gender Studies degrees, that's great.
	It's going to take you a while working at Starbucks, but you need to pay back every single penny.
	The idea of putting off $10,000 or $20,000 of money that you benefited from for your personal use On to somebody who chose not to go to college.
	Chose to be like the guys who fixed my air conditioning.
	Brilliantly, by the way!
	In my palatial estate by the beach, here in Blue, California, my air conditioning was not functional.
	I had hot rooms upstairs, cold rooms down.
	It was chaos.
	It was temperature chaos.
	And these two guys came in and they did not get gender studies degrees.
	They did a lot of work.
	They fixed up my HVAC system.
	And last night I felt for the first time a cool breeze upon me.
	First time in years.
	It was delightful.
	And the point I'm making is that other people made choices.
	Why should these guys, who Got paid really well!
	It cost a pretty penny.
	Worth every penny.
	I begrudge them nothing.
	Because it is the fruit of their efforts.
	The fruit of their labors.
	They didn't take out loans.
	I don't understand why they have to work hard.
	And they did work hard!
	HVAC is a dirty, tough job.
	A job I don't do.
	Now, keep in mind, remember, I started off as a private first class.
	I was, you know, I didn't start off as a colonel.
	And my first job was mopping out toilets at a Carl's Jr.
	restaurant in Foster City, California, which is Hardee's for you guys east of Mississippi.
	So I've been there, I've done that, and I don't understand why people who made different life choices have to subsidize a bunch of spoiled rich kids who decided they wanted to study, you know, Aborigine Marxist performance art.
	Okay, if you want to do that, it's cool.
	There's a way to do that.
	Take out your wallet and pay for it yourself.
	Don't ask us to pay for it.
	So that's more burden on the dreams of other people.
	People say, what about my dreams of being a diversity consultant at a giant Fortune 500 company and imposing policies that restrict you racist, sexist, imperialist, transphobe, Islamophobes?
	I don't care about your dreams.
	Your dreams are stupid and bad.
	And if you want to pursue them, you should do that in an unsubsidized manner.
	Unsubsidized by people who build this country, who feed this country, who fuel this country, and who defend this country.
	They are the people who ought to get benefit.
	If benefits were to be given.
	But you know what?
	They're not asking for anything.
	They're not asking to be subsidized.
	And let me bring something else up.
	Because it's starting to tick me off.
	PPP loans.
	Designed to be forgiven.
	They tell an employer, we're shutting down your company.
	Your ability to do business because of this glorified cold.
	But we're going to give you a loan, and if you spend that money, this is part of the program, if you spend that money on payroll and keeping your people employed, keeping your company going, and you demonstrate that, we will forgive the loan.
	So these are loans designed to be forgiven.
	They're not really loans.
	They only become loans if you don't use them to keep your workers employed.
	Okay?
	And millions of us business owners took those PPPs, and we kept people going.
	And I'll tell you, I'm very proud.
	My law firm employed and kept employed every single employee.
	Not one of my employees lost a dime during COVID.
	Me, because I'm the employer, you know, hey, if somebody's got to pay, it's about to be me.
	I'm going to bear the burden.
	If we're really successful, I'm going to get rich.
	But when times are tough, you know, when you're the commander, you know, you eat last.
	Right?
	When I was a battalion commander, last two people got food on their plates.
	Command Sergeant Major and me, and we were jostling to be last.
	Okay?
	That's how it should be.
	But the idea of equating a student loan, which is something that you know you've got to pay back, and is solely for your own personal benefit, With, hey, we are the government, we are taking your ability to work, so we're going to offer you cash to pass through to your employees to keep them working, instead of paying them unemployment.
	So, on the other end of this nightmare, you know, you'll still have a company and you'll still be able to go, which we and millions of our businesses did.
	That is one of those things where I say, if you equate them, are you stupid, or do you think we are stupid?
	And the answer may be a little of both.
	I want to hear what you have to say.
	833-33-GORKA, G-O-R-K-A.
	That is 833-334-6752.
	Call me about student loans.
	G-O-R-K-A.
	That is 833-334-6752.
	Call me about student loans.
	Let's talk about the raid.
	Let's talk about the raid on the present.
	We finally saw the affidavit.
	What is it, 34, 38 pages?
	As Dr. Gorka tweeted out, black lines matter.
	They redacted all the good stuff.
	But what you got left is, hey, when Donald Trump's people packed up his papers, they swooped in some classified stuff.
	Not a great thing.
	But a thing that happens, and he'd been giving stuff back.
	And they decide they're going to send people with guns to his house.
	They send people from the government to their political opponent's house with guns!
	Again, is this the world we're going to leave to little kids?
	A world where this kind of abuse takes place?
	Didn't seem to happen with Hillary.
	Now, of course, Donald Trump did not put this on a server in a toilet that could be reached in by the FSB and by the Ministry of State Security for the Chinese.
	No, no, no.
	Stuff wrapped up in boxes.
	Donald Trump took this stuff.
	He took classified material, which is bad.
	A, nice to see a classified material being outside normal controls is bad again.
	That hadn't been true in a long time, thanks to felonium Milhouse von Pantsuit.
	Uh, but, uh... What a freaking joke.
	But I'm not joking, I'm dead serious.
	833-33-G-O-R-K-A.
	833-334-6752, I'm Kurt Schlichter, guest hosting for the great Dr. Sebastian Gorka on America First.
	Give me a call and stick around.
	So what do you think?
	Thank you.
	That was that last bit there about the raid.
	My goodness, that was some hot fire we needed.
	Did you enjoy that?
	Oh yeah.
	How about the student loan thing?
	That ain't good?
	The rumble chat definitely liked your impersonations.
	Your impersonation of lefty art majors.
	Lefty femboys.
	You were almost doing the Biden thing, whispering into the mic, but it was done for comedic effect.
	Are we live?
	Mic's open?
	Yeah, mic's live on Rumble.
	How's it going, all 500 viewers thus far?
	Welcome!
	Hey, pump it up, people!
	Hey, pump it up!
	Keep it pumping!
	Pump, pump, pump!
	Pumpity, pump!
	Pump, pump, pump!
	I don't remember how that song goes, but there's a lot of pumping in it.
	Rumble user Yawn Wayne says they'll need 2,000 more mules to pull this off.
	Nice!
	Nice reference, nice reference.
	Nice!
	2,000 mules for the Bulwark guys sounds like a party.
	Anyway, it's because they're perverts.
	I like to explain exactly why stuff happens.
	Let's see.
	So we got a couple minutes.
	Oh man, we got a long time.
	Oh, yeah.
	Nice long break between segments one and two.
	Commercial long time.
	Liz.
	Oh, yeah.
	Liz Schell.
	That'll be amazing.
	Is she calling us or are we dialing her?
	You're dialing her.
	There's a 703 number.
	Oh, yeah.
	We got it.
	Yeah.
	Jeff's got it.
	My little spreadsheets are, like, very useful to me.
	I don't know if they're useful to you guys.
	No, they make sense.
	I get it.
	We have our own clocks here, like, on the walls, you know, the round, like, The only issue is that those clocks, they list the segments as segments 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, but for our purposes we say A, B, C, D, E, because if you say Hour 1, Segment 1, that's a little confusing, so we just say 1A, 2B, stuff like that, so, yeah.
	I think, oh, we have her on the line?
	Alright, we have Liz going to patch her through, Alex, and mics are live.
	Liz, we are live on the Rumble Chat.
	We haven't gotten into the actual things.
	How are you doing?
	All right.
	I'm here.
	I'm ready.
	90 seconds.
	Are you excited?
	I am.
	I'm rested.
	I'm ready.
	I'm excited.
	Rested, ready, and redacted.
	And redacted.
	That's my new... I just changed my Twitter handle to be RedactedLizzie.
	In honor of the disclosure of the affidavit, which is black paper, basically.
	But we all knew that's what it was going to be.
	Yeah, I mean, I was not particularly hopeful there'd be anything interesting.
	And what there was does not appear to be particularly interesting.
	No, but I will say what's really awesome are the memes.
	I am not disappointed in all the memes that people are making.
	Wow, we got a lot of calls.
	We'll get to those later.
	Make sure everybody knows that... Oh, here's Frank in LA.
	PPP loans are the same as student loans.
	Love to hear that discussion.
	Frank, we're going to have a chat.
	Because you are misguided.
	40 seconds.
	So do you like subsidizing Marxist dance majors?
	Because I know I do.
	Alright.
	Let's do this thang. Let's do this
	thang. Let's do this thang.
	Kurt Schlichter here, guest hosting for the great Dr. Sebastian Gorka on America First.
	I am honored, honored I tell you, to welcome one of my friends, the editor over at American Greatness, Liz Schild.
	Hi Liz!
	Are you in a high dungeon today?
	Of course I am.
	Of course I am.
	Where else could I be?
	I see that you have changed your Twitter handle to incorporate Redacted, which is apparently the word of the day.
	Yeah.
	As if we expected anything less from our Justice Department.
	Well look, when it comes to our Justice Department, expecting less is probably your best course of action.
	That's the name of the game.
	Well, look, I'm very excited because, you know, being an Army officer for 27-some years approximately, it's nice to see that having confidential classified materials outside of a classified environment is wrong again.
	So, that's good?
	I guess.
	I mean, it's like, I have whiplash.
	I can't keep up with it.
	He wears that guy on the submarine.
	Remember the submarine guy that took a selfie and then they threw him in jail for I don't know how long?
	Yeah, he needs to be on the pardon list.
	I think our next president, it may be Donald Trump, it may be Ron DeSantis, it's not going to be Nikki Haley.
	It can't be Nikki Haley.
	No.
	Immediately no.
	We need a couple lists.
	First list is the pardon list.
	That guy needs to be pardoned.
	along with all the J6 political prisoners.
	And when they get pardoned on day one, the president needs to say, I'm pardoning him because we can't have two systems of justice.
	Hillary didn't get busted.
	This guy did.
	Unfair.
	We're going to have nobody get busted.
	This is a reset.
	We're going to go now back into equal justice, but I am going to make it equal.
	The other thing is we need the relief for cause.
	Did you see the admiral who puts his pronouns on his military, his U.S.
	Navy signature block?
	It's a he-him, by the way.
	That's just gross.
	That's just gross.
	I know.
	This is a Navy... Do you think that somebody would look at this person and be like, I'm not sure?
	Like, what are his pronouns?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, would you look at this guy and not know that he was a man?
	Well, look, simply because... I don't know.
	Look, Liz, simply because you wield a penis does not make you a man.
	Maybe he identifies as something else.
	Maybe he's another... Obviously, if he's still in the military, he obviously does.
	Well, I think he's identifying as a loser.
	This is the United States Navy that can't keep its ships from ramming into other ships.
	Which I would think is like the, you know, kind of like the baseline of the Navy to run into other ships.
	Don't sink.
	You're right.
	By the way, this is a tough anniversary.
	This is the anniversary of the killing of 13 American service members over in Afghanistan by a bomber who should not have been anywhere near them.
	And because of bad planning at the higher levels, got very close to them.
	I represented the family of one of the Marines killed.
	I received the tactical briefing so I know what happened at the battalion level.
	Our Marines performed superbly at the tactical level.
	It was the higher-ups whose utter incompetence got them killed.
	Do you see any lasting fallout from this that might affect the election?
	No, I mean, to be fair, I haven't looked at the front page of the Washington Post, but is this on the front page of the Washington Post?
	Yeah, I'm sure it is!
	Right there with Russiagate!
	Giant hoax!
	Here's our poll and we're back!
	Is it on the front page of the New York Times?
	I think the White House did put out a statement, but it's certainly not in the media.
	Or, this is another example of Trump's semi-fascism?
	Right, yeah.
	Do people write his speeches, or does he just do like a jazz odyssey?
	What's his Spinal Tap reference?
	Maybe he is the puppet show that opens for Spinal Tap.
	Seriously, it's the same thing with Kamala.
	When you hear her, and it's such a nightmare, you really want to ask.
	Do they have speechwriters?
	Now in Kamala's case, I don't think she does because the speechwriter quit a couple weeks ago, but somebody needs to control You know, I mean, I assume Biden can still read a teleprompter, so I don't know where he comes up with this stuff.
	It's really stupid, but it's also very consistent with the Democrats' positioning now, right?
	Because we heard a couple days ago, Charlie Crist came out after he won his primary and said, I don't want, if you voted for Ron DeSantis, I don't want you to vote for me.
	Like, okay, so you're just like right out of the gate.
	You're just going to cut off, what, at 55% of the voter?
	Not as deplorable, the whole thing.
	It's like, okay.
	Did you see what that goon Kathy Holschul, the unelected nimrod in New York said?
	If you're a Republican, you should leave New York.
	A lot of Republicans are like, way ahead of you!
	I know.
	It's like, too late.
	Too late.
	I mean, look.
	Tens of millions of people voted for the other guy.
	And Biden's calling them essentially semi-fascists.
	I'm not sure what a semi-fascist is.
	Is fascist light?
	I don't know either.
	Is it, uh, tastes great, less oppressive?
	I don't know.
	Maybe it has less calories or something?
	Is it a low-carb version of fascism?
	Low-sodium, low-calorie fascism?
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	Well, I mean, putting aside that he's a stupid man who's become senile, he's also an evil man.
	I don't think these guys understand the damage they are doing to our country, and I don't think it's going to go the way they think it is.
	Because I am convinced that the rules are there to protect the weak, which is them, against the strong, which is the rest of us.
	And it seems like a really bad idea.
	I'm old enough to remember during the campaign season, when Joe Biden was campaigning for president, that he promised that he was going to bring us all together.
	Well, he did for a giant fist fight.
	And apparently we just have a different understanding of what it means to bring everyone together, because the Democrats are taking increasingly hostile, overtly hostile positions against their political adversaries.
	It used to be, you know, a little soto-vocae.
	It used to be kind of quieter.
	It wasn't explicit.
	Now they're just full on.
	I mean, they consider us like subhuman.
	And that's the way there are semi-fascists?
	I mean, these are terrible things to call people who, you know, again, you're trying to get them to vote for you.
	In one format or another.
	I mean, I assume whoever the Democrat that runs for president in 2024, it's probably not going to be Joe Biden, but, you know, they're going to want to have more than just simply hardcore Democrats vote for them.
	Are they?
	They won't.
	Well, are they going to?
	Can you win with that?
	Well, look, I think they're betting on that.
	I don't know.
	I mean, you don't give up, you know, you don't give $10,000, $20,000 to every gender studies major in the Starbucks across the Fruited Plain.
	Because you're reaching out.
	That is a reinforce the base move.
	Because normal people are like, I paid my debts.
	Why am I subsidizing this nitwit?
	Well, it's also an unusual cohort to cater to because it's not a lot of people.
	These are people that are already Biden supporters, probably.
	I mean, just demographically speaking, people who go to college are more likely to support Democrats than people who don't go to college.
	We must crush academia as it's currently constituted.
	Right.
	So, you know, is this a winning move?
	I mean, what does he, doesn't gain politically really from it?
	Because again, these are people already inclined to vote for him.
	So, and it's not a lot of money to be honest.
	I mean, these are not people that have $10,000 in debt.
	They have $200,000 in debt or, or $150,000 in debt.
	And really to be honest, there's no reason to do this unless you're going to reform the entire student loan apparatus, which is very broken.
	Well, Liz Sheld of American Greatness, thank you very much for your insights.
	Keep redacting!
	Keep it redacting.
	Keep the radio dial right here.
	I am Kurt Schlichter, sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Stick around, we got And then You can't tame her!
	She's like the wind!
	Nobody put Sheld in the corner!
	She's gone like a dream.
	You can't tame her.
	She's like the wind.
	Three and a half.
	Nobody put Sheldon in the corner.
	Always fun to have Liz.
	There was one comment I saw in the Rumble chat.
	I gotta go back and find it.
	It was too good.
	Oh, hang on.
	Culper777 in the chat says, I now believe Colonel K can do his own live bumper music.
	You got some fans here today.
	Over 700 watching now.
	Welcome everyone.
	Wait, what do you like me to do?
	Some human beatbox?
	Word!
	There we go.
	Kurt Schlicker, Human Beatbox.
	Add that to my CV.
	Who needs to be a lawyer?
	You can be a rap artist, and you'll make more money.
	I have an incredible amount of street credibility.
	Now you gotta come up with your rap name.
	K-Dawg with a W and an A.
	Just think of what Seb calls you, Colonel K.
	It should be K-E-R-N-L.
	Ooh, okay.
	You like that?
	That's pretty good.
	That's pretty good.
	We're making that happen. - Yeah.
	It is old school or some other school.
	Let's see who we got on the phones.
	I got all these screens here.
	Did Frank go away?
	I hope Frank didn't.
	Frank went away!
	But... Wait, was he a liberal or was he just like a... Well, it's true.
	I don't know.
	Maybe because I mocked him.
	Because he was a derwood.
	Oh, Herschel Walker's on Fox News right now.
	I like Herschel.
	Yeah.
	I like it when they said those horrible things about him.
	Using words that are intolerable around us.
	But perfectly okay among liberals.
	He's like, you know, these guys need some Jesus.
	I'll be praying for them.
	I was like, damn!
	These guys need some Jesus.
	90 seconds.
	I love that.
	He was on with Hugh Hewitt.
	He was great.
	I mean, he just sounded so good.
	You know, I like to think I know how to speak in public because I ask people to give me money all the time.
	And, you know.
	One minute.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, I got to tell my client I got him some money.
	Text him.
	Between breaks.
	Hey, man.
	Throwing some cash K's way.
	Pow.
	I've got to do that more.
	Pow.
	Okay.
	Rock the woke.
	I'm going to do the phone numbers.
	I'll do rock the woke.
	I'll do food.
	And then I will take some calls.
	And I think I will go to.
	Mm-hmm.
	How can you defend all the Republicans in Congress with their PPE loans?
	Oh, easily.
	Okay.
	Dave?
	Dave in Arizona?
	You have a date with a K. K.
	America First.
	Can you believe it?
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	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	We are back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka, except today you're with Kurt Schlichter, senior comms town hall, author of the new book, We'll Be Back, Fall and Rise of America, and I'm a retired colonel and lawyer and other stuff.
	833-33-Gorka, G-O-R-K-A.
	833-334-6752 is the number to talk to me, Dave, in Arizona.
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	Okay, Dave in Arizona, you equate PPP loans with student loans, am I correct?
	No, not really.
	But let me, first of all, thank you for your service.
	I'm calling from outside Luke Air Force Base here.
	Oh, I was a Carl.
	I didn't do anything.
	I just showed up and drank coffee.
	But go ahead, tell us how you feel about student loans versus PPP loans.
	Well, I think it's a bigger imprint on the economy when we look at PPP and the student loans.
	It seems like the establishment class, and I'm going to roll lots of Republicans into it, they don't seem to be fighting for we the people, and I think that that's the problem.
	There's this never-ending line of people at the trough.
	And again, I think it's the establishment class, GOP and DNC, and all the people in the media, and all the members of Big Tech and the military-industrial complex, that just keeps soaking we the people, the taxpayers.
	Well, Dave, let me ask you something.
	I want to defend the PPP program.
	And partly from personal experience.
	Isn't it true that PPP was designed to give money to businesses that would otherwise have to shut down, essentially, because of the COVID nonsense, and that the quote-unquote forgiveness is directly linked to payroll payments?
	In other words, you have to show you took that money and gave it to your employees to keep them employed during the crisis.
	Do you agree with that?
	I do, and I work for a company where I process multiple loans on that, and it did.
	It helped us keep afloat.
	But as you know, it's a government program, so... It is.
	The abuse is not... I'm not going to say it's rampant, but it is systemic.
	Of course it is.
	No, I think you're right, and thank you very much, Dave, from Arizona.
	No, look, I don't like government programs.
	I don't like programs that shut down the entire economy because some people got the sniffles, and I don't wanna... I understand.
	COVID's a dangerous disease.
	I get it.
	We should have dealt with it in other ways.
	PPP is not student loans.
	It's different.
	We can distinguish things, and we'll keep doing that here on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter.
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	We're back, back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter and I am proud to welcome one of the true fighters for America First in the United States Congress, Representative Jim Banks.
	Representative Banks, welcome back to America First!
	Hey Kurt, good to be with you.
	Thanks for having me back.
	Wow, kind of a busy day.
	Just wanted to get your initial thoughts on the redaction.
	And I would call it the affidavit, but it's mostly redaction.
	It's like they ran out of Sharpies over there at the DOJ.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I mean, somebody asked me a little bit ago if I had a chance to read it.
	There's not much to read.
	I mean, it's laughable.
	So they don't even have footnotes at the bottom that explain why they redacted what they did.
	But it just goes to show that They don't want to admit that what they did at Mar-a-Lago was highly politically motivated.
	They have egg on their face once again.
	At this point, we should never give these guys at the DOJ and the FBI the benefit of the doubt because they have a long pattern of political activities like this one that justify our suspicion of the political activities at the highest level of the Biden DOJ.
	Well, Representative Bax, you served your country in the United States Navy, which is not the decisive branch of the military as the Army is, but it's a proud branch that my family has served for many years.
	Isn't it nice, though?
	I mean, let's look on the bright side.
	Now, apparently, it's wrong to have classified information outside of a secure area.
	So I guess we got that going for us, right?
	Again?
	That's one way to look at it.
	One way to look at it.
	The leaked media reports have told us more about what might be in these documents, like handwritten notes from President Trump with other world leaders that now they want to justify as classified or related to national security.
	I mean, at the end of the day, the more that we learn about this, the more that it should rattle and startle every American about how How the top levels of these agencies have turned into political actors seeking political retribution against the greatest president of our lifetime and Donald Trump, who they do not want his name to appear on the ballot.
	That's why they're attacking him and doing everything they can to go after him and prosecute him for crimes that he didn't commit.
	So the more that we learn, the less faith that we should have in those who are going after him.
	Well, Representative Banks, I do believe that we're going to take back the House and the Senate in November, and we're going to touch on that in a moment.
	But once we do, Yeah, at the very least.
	we the base are expecting some action and one of the actions that I'd like to see is the removal of Adam Schiff and Eric you know toots Swalwell from any position of responsibility in any committee membership you know as as a lesson after they refused to seat you on the J6 committee what do you think of that and will we have the guts to do it yeah at the very least I mean this is my expectation to I mean they they refused and
	Nancy Pelosi refused to allow me and Jim Jordan to serve on the sham January 6th committee because they knew that we were immediately, even at that point, asking questions that she didn't want to be answered that deviated from her narrative.
	So to think that Eric Swalwell, a guy who with one of the most dishonest records in Congress and Lion Adam Schiff, Even have a seat on the Intelligence Committee handling classified information related to our national security to begin with should be concerning, but this is an area where I agree, Kurt.
	There's good justification here for the tit for tat with those two at the very least.
	There are lots of other ways that we can give these Democrats a dose of their own medicine, but at the very least, preventing those two from serving on the House Intelligence Committee when we get the majority back is the bare minimum.
	Well, there's some other stuff that the American people are looking for.
	We just saw 87,000 IRS agents to be unleashed on middle Americans.
	Is the Republican Congress ready to refuse to fund that, even if it means shutting down the government?
	Yes, we will have leverage points.
	I've been talking about this a lot with my colleagues lately.
	When we get the majority back, we'll have opportunities and leverage points.
	And one of the biggest leverage points that we have in the majority is the spending bill.
	And I don't know what's going to happen in the Senate.
	I still believe we're going to win back the Senate majority.
	So if we have Republicans in charge of the House and the Senate, we still have a Democrat in the White House.
	And the first leverage point that we have will be funding the government with the threat of a government shutdown.
	And if Joe Biden wants to shut the government down over Republicans defunding the 87,000 IRS agents, then that would be a decision that the president of the United States will have to make.
	We'll have leverage points on bills like the Farm Bill and the defense, the NDAA, the annual defense bill.
	And we'll have to raise the...
	Debt limit at some point next year.
	That's a leverage point.
	That's an opportunity for us to get things done that Joe Biden doesn't want to get done, that we send to his desk and dare him to veto and send the government into default or closing down the government.
	Those are leverage points that Republicans have to be willing to use.
	And this is the new Republican Party.
	I'm telling you, the Republican Party five, six, seven years ago, the weak-kneed Republican Party of the past is not the Republican Party that Donald Trump formed and molded.
	That we have today.
	And in the House, you have a lot of fighters like myself who are trying to lead the way to see these leverage points that we're going to have when we get the majority of opportunities to do the right thing, get the country back on track.
	But we have to be willing to fight.
	Well, Representative Banks, our listeners here on America First love hearing that because, you know, they've seen 20 years of conservatives failing to conserve anything.
	And they are demanding accountability and they are demanding an aggressive Republican caucus in the House and the Senate.
	Now, you are out there, you're running for re-election.
	As is every member of the House of Representatives.
	You're talking to normal people.
	But what do you see, and do you see what the media is telling us?
	Which is, oh, the Republicans are in trouble.
	Oh, the red wave is subsiding!
	Oh my gosh!
	Maybe it's a blue wave!
	Are you seeing anything like that?
	Well, not at all.
	My voters, where I come from in Northeast Indiana, are fired up, and they're looking forward to going to the ballot box in November to vote against These Democrats, and a big part of it is because of the sky-high gas prices and the Democrats laughably telling them that it's dipped and it's lower than it was a couple of months ago, but my voters are smart enough to know that $4 a gallon gas is still a lot more than $2.50 a gallon for a gallon gas.
	They get it.
	They know that it's the policies of these Democrats that have sent gas prices sky-high, inflation sky-high.
	The drug epidemic that's drastically affecting communities and families.
	Well, Representative Banks, we are coming to a hard break.
	Thank you very much.
	Good luck in your re-election.
	This is Kurt Schlichter, sitting in for the great Seb Gorka.
	Please stick around.
	Oh, Representative Banks, you still there? - Hang on.
	He's gone, he's gone.
	Okay, that's okay.
	He's always good to go.
	Okay, I got more calls.
	This is the final segment of the hour here.
	Alright, I've read everything I need to read.
	For this hour, yes.
	Right, for this hour.
	Two and a half minutes.
	All right, we still got...
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Oh, here's the calls.
	All right, let's see who we got.
	Roma.
	Semi-fascism has become ultra-MAGA didn't work.
	Two minutes.
	All right.
	Okay, we got a couple calls.
	I get a call or two.
	And then we'll be done with an hour.
	How was that last segment?
	I thought it was okay.
	I felt a little rushed.
	Well, yeah, I mean, a member of Congress usually has a lot that they want to say, but they can only say so much in a seven-minute segment.
	I know.
	Eight-minute segment, give or take, yeah.
	Or 24 bulwark wedding nights.
	Yeah, I have no doubt Republicans will retake the House.
	I'm just kind of nervous about the Senate, honestly.
	And I think it's more a matter of, like, the individual candidates are fine, but when Mitch is openly virtue-singling that he's not going to support some candidates, then that could make all the difference.
	I think at the end of the day, he'll do what he takes to win.
	I don't believe the, I want to be second.
	I just don't see that from him.
	I don't think that's realistic.
	I had a chat with Mehmet Oz last night.
	Oh yeah?
	Yeah.
	Through mutual friends, he gave me a call.
	He liked my town hall column.
	I found him a very intelligent guy, as you might think from a cardiac surgeon.
	Sure.
	I don't think he's as conservative as I am, but then again, Who on earth is as conservative as I am?
	I mean, literally.
	I remember friends in Pennsylvania saying that Oz is really doing on-the-ground stuff.
	He's done like over 200 campaign events.
	He is!
	Selena Zito says he's all in.
	And I, you know, I appreciated a chance to chat with him a little.
	I thought he was a very intelligent guy, not a politician.
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	I am your Vitamin K Injection, Kurt Schlichter, guest hosting for Dr. Seb Gorka here on America First, as we wrap up our number one.
	Time to get to some calls.
	David in Ohio, you've got student loans, but you're taking the rebate, the forgiveness, the whatever the hell it is, the giveaway.
	Yeah, I mean, how's it going, Kirk?
	Well, it's going better for you because you just made $10,000, buddy.
	$20,000, actually, because I got a Pell Grant.
	Playa!
	Beer's on you.
	Pretty well.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	I mean, OK, so I had $30,000 and I paid down $10,000.
	And I'm a conservative, so it just seems like a moral gray area.
	And I feel just like, I just feel like my mom kissed me in front of my friends.
	Like, I just don't know how to feel about this.
	With tongue?
	What's that?
	Yeah, no.
	I'm not from the South.
	Wow.
	I was just in Nashville, not my experience.
	Now I'm going to have all these Southerners call up, you damn Yankees!
	I'm sorry, I was born in Ohio, folks, but I moved to California, so you can hate me for that.
	Look, I understand.
	You don't get a choice about whether your loan is forgiven.
	They're just going to do it.
	So, I'm one of those people, just because you disagree with a government program, It doesn't necessarily mean you don't participate in it because you are part of the system.
	For instance, I would rather have my own savings account than do Social Security, but I didn't get that option.
	So when time comes for Social Security, I'm going to take that and use it to buy an even nicer car, even though I hope I won't need it.
	So yeah, I kind of get your vibe about it.
	What do you think of them comparing it to PPP loans, which were designed to keep people employed, keep people actually working and not to refund them for something that they were given or that they bought?
	I actually didn't know about PPP.
	I had no idea about it.
	And I saw, I read the Daily Wire quite a bit, and I saw the comparison And it was just like apples to oranges.
	I don't even get the comparison.
	I saw one comment.
	It was like, so you're going to shut down my business, and then I'm going to take a benefit that you give me, and then you're going to put me on a government watch list to call me out on it.
	Yeah.
	No, that's entirely it.
	Thank you, Dave from Ohio.
	I think that's a very savvy view.
	First of all, we should not have shut down the government.
	We shouldn't have needed PPP loans.
	But if the government is going to take from you a taking, Fifth Amendment, you can't take without compensation, the government needs to pony up and compensate you for what you do.
	If you are called upon to shut down your business for the greater good, You shouldn't bear that loss.
	It should be borne collectively.
	That's what PPP did.
	PPP kept people working.
	And in that, it was a good idea to solve a problem that should have never existed.
	This is Kurt Schlichter.
	I'm singing for Dr. Sebastian Gorka here on America First.
	We have two more hours of insanity.
	Don't go anywhere.
	The intelligence community had learned to use against our enemies.
	Now it was being deployed against the American people and our president.
	This is the biggest political scandal in modern history, which makes Watergate look like a tiff.
	The FBI director has no credibility.
	The left used to not trust the FBI, and now they love them.
	This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn.
	Imagine what they do to anybody who has a single strike against them.
	35 Russian diplomats in the U.S.
	expelled.
	The prosecution of General Flynn wasn't a pursuit of criminal activity.
	It was a setup.
	Flynn actually had details.
	So he was talking about going after people's budgets.
	They were terrified.
	Media didn't start as neutral.
	Media hasn't been neutral all its life.
	The two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out.
	In fact, through WikiLeaks, that she says one thing and...
	Oh, no.
	They worked hand-in-glove with Comey to try to delegitimize Trump.
	They were not there to tell the truth.
	A political dirty trick is being carried out by our intelligence community.
	Honestly, none of us really know, sort of holistically, what to think about this dossier.
	They went into Congress.
	They said, nothing here.
	Doesn't matter.
	We'll keep going with FISA.
	We'll keep going with the investigation.
	And more importantly, we will go on TV, day in and day out, and lie to the American people to their face.
	And nothing's going to happen to us.
	The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread.
	And the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to scum!
	Russian scum!
	We had not one person claim that they had or had seen evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians.
	Devin Nunes was the hero in the forest.
	He was alone.
	He was mocked.
	He was attacked.
	Devin Nunes was subject to such scorn for saying the conclusions that we brought forth in that report, which all proved to be true.
	Russiagate was a false story.
	To target their political opposition.
	To carry out their insurance policies.
	I believe that this is a conspiracy.
	These guys have perpetrated the greatest crime against the American people ever seen.
	It was a coup d'etat.
	This is how sick and twisted these people are.
	First, I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S.
	citizens involved in the Trump transition.
	It was shocking to see some of the over-classification that was done to hide either corruption or abuse of authority and just to make sure certain agencies didn't look bad.
	We have a peaceful transition of power process.
	That's not what happened.
	There were more meetings.
	There were more leaks.
	There were more attacks.
	The thing that they were investigating the Trump campaign for is what they themselves were doing.
	Not just the Democratic Party and their operatives, but also the FBI.
	If I were writing about the time frame that we lived in and that we're living in now, I would say it wasn't supposed to happen.
	They weren't supposed to know.
	The entire time this was going on, they thought this was going to be what sunk the Donald Trump presidency.
	and they were just looking for the golden goose and they still haven't found it because it doesn't exist.
	The mic's back on, Alex.
	Yes.
	Alright.
	Alex, bring up Skype 2.
	Oh, Reboy's Skype, okay, very good.
	Oh, you want to let them know the mic's are live on video as well, uh, Colonel K?
	Um, mics, yeah, you can kick the mics on, Alex.
	Okay, we have them on the line now.
	Hey!
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	Skype to Alex.
	It's up.
	There's no signal.
	Hang on a second, we're working this out.
	We got two and a half minutes.
	There might be something on his end, yeah.
	Sir, can you hear us?
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	we're not seeing any signal coming from your end hmm there's something plugged into the auxiliary Oh, there we go.
	We hear you now.
	All right.
	Two minutes, and the mics are live on our Rumble video stream at this time.
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	Sir, can we get you to talk to say a couple lines for us, please?
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	Valente.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Kurt, did you ever get an answer on Adam Laxalt?
	Yeah, he's coming.
	Oh, he is?
	All right.
	Yeah, he's in.
	It's all in.
	Hey, man.
	How's it going?
	Pretty good.
	How are you?
	I'm okay.
	Just doing my thing.
	What do you want to talk about today?
	Oh, shit.
	I thought you knew.
	I'd leave it up to you.
	Look, this is Hungarians' Choice.
	Hungarians' Choice?
	I didn't know.
	No, I didn't know Friday was Hungarian's choice.
	Seb Gorka's show, it's always Hungarian choice.
	Oh, my God, that's right.
	That's right.
	40 seconds.
	I think I'm sure we'll talk redaction, we'll talk PPP.
	Let's just talk about the need to destroy liberalism in all its myriad evil forms.
	I I know.
	Everybody's like, ugh.
	I know.
	I know.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
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	I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter, Senior Columnist at TownHall.com.
	Noted Los Angeles trial lawyer, retired army colonel, author of the new book, We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America, and of course, the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative action novels, which you should go get over at Amazon.
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	In the meantime, I've got my pal Dave Reboy here.
	Hey, buddy.
	Dave, it is great to see you again.
	And we hung out at CPAC.
	No, was it CPAC or was it Florida?
	It was Florida.
	No, it was the Sunshine Summit.
	Sunshine Summit.
	It was the Florida version of CPAC.
	Yeah.
	It was great.
	And it was a mob of conservatives down there.
	You guys have established an enclave, many of them having escaped from New York, to quote Snake Plissken.
	Did you see what Kathy Holschuhl had to say about Republicans in New York?
	Yeah, that was pretty wild.
	Yeah, she said all 5.4 million Republicans in New York should leave the state because apparently they don't meet her exacting standards.
	Look, frankly, I think that's eminently reasonable.
	You're not arguing with her.
	Everyone is so horrified at the level of discourse, but that's where we are in America.
	Has anyone noticed?
	Look, if these 5.4 million Republicans in the state of New York want to have their point of view represented by their politicians at all, You know, if they don't want to be governed by maniacs who despise them, I mean, very clearly at this point, then pick up and go.
	I mean, we still have that right.
	I think one of the most important phenomenon of our time right now is what people have called the big sort, which is people moving into areas that are more ideologically aligned.
	Because let's face it, it sucks to be surrounded by people who hate you.
	And even going to the grocery store or walking down the street, you know, it's it's it feels oppressive.
	I know I spent most of my life in blue cities.
	I'm in Florida now.
	And I will tell you, it's taken, you know, digits off my blood pressure.
	It just feels great.
	It feels great to run into people and, you know, and be pretty certain that I'm not going to run into a lib, or at least a crazy psychopathic lib.
	Well, Dave Reboy, whose podcast, Late Republic Nonsense, I highly recommend, and you should go seek that out, Late Republic Nonsense.
	Look, I live in California, and I've done a lot of traveling for the new book, We'll Be Back, Fall and Rise of America.
	I was also on Late Republic Nonsense.
	You can go check out that podcast.
	I went to much of America, as well as Washington D.C.
	and New York, during my little book tour of six weeks.
	And I gotta tell ya, there's a different feel when you get to a place like Nashville, or Florida especially, everyone's greeting you, welcome to the free state of Florida!
	And they're not doing it ironically.
	I mean, you guys were all over me and Arena going, when are you moving here?
	When are you moving here?
	We know a place, it's relatively alligator free.
	Well, it can't be too alligator-free, because then the property values go up a little too much.
	Well, I do love the idea of a land where dinosaurs still walk the earth, and I don't mean Congress.
	You talk about the Great Sort, and I talk about national divorce, and we'll be back on Rise of America.
	I don't think there'll be a formal one, because I think there's problems with splitting up a country.
	We saw what happened with former Yugoslavia, that ought to be a lesson.
	But I do think you're right.
	Everybody's saying, all the Californians are all moving into our blue states.
	Yeah, they're all my conservative friends.
	I'm literally losing... I mean, I've lost a significant number of my friends are gone.
	And they really are... And they're much happier.
	I mean... Yes!
	They won't shut up about it.
	But they're much happier.
	And look, I mean, in the old days, Um, Texas is a really good example because in the old days, Texas ran this kind of PR campaign for, um, kind of throughout the country, especially in California.
	And they said, you know what?
	Come to Texas.
	If you're, if you've got a big tech company, come to Texas because Texas is cool.
	It's great.
	It's low taxes, et cetera.
	And they really stress the economic freedom of Texas.
	I mean, sure, that's true and everything, but, um, The catch is that even libs, even crazy, psychopathic, lunatic libs are attracted to some economic freedom.
	And what they did was they ended up bringing in huge companies.
	They ended up really flipping the suburbs of the major cities and the major cities themselves blue.
	And they're kind of in a pickle because rather than, you know, you can't just have economic freedom without real conservatism across a whole host of issues.
	And that's one thing that I love Ron DeSantis for, is because he understands that.
	He understands that having a place that's just low taxes is going to attract a whole bunch of people who only care about low taxes.
	And his offensive against Disney And the groomer stuff in schools, and just on and on, and election integrity, and abortion.
	I mean, on all of these issues, he's great.
	And he's setting up a situation where Florida now has a reputation as being a hardcore right-wing state that libs don't want to relocate to, even if they get to save money in taxes.
	So that's the scenario we want.
	I think you're actually, I mean, you're pointing out something very important, which is Ron DeSantis is selling freedom.
	Greg Abbott was selling economic prosperity, which is something to sell.
	It's not bad.
	But, I mean, DeSantis is kind of selling both.
	And I think DeSantis' example is putting a lot of pressure on these governors to move towards a freedom agenda, because otherwise they're going to get left completely left in the dust by the Sunshine State.
	Yeah, look, I don't understand why more Republican governors are not doing it.
	I mean, I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering what we have in Congress, especially in the Senate.
	These guys don't want to do anything.
	At this point, they won't even talk about the things that their voters care about, much less do anything about them.
	So I'm not really surprised that there aren't that many Republican governors who are stepping up and trying to emulate DeSantis.
	But obviously, I wish there would be, because frankly, all these 5.4 million New Yorkers who, if they ever did leave, I don't want them to come here.
	I mean, it would be great to see them once in a while, and we do see them when they're on vacation, but I think this place is almost full.
	Well, it looks to me like Ron DeSantis is actually, you know, doing kind of the welcome wagon approach.
	New immigrants, you know, are invited to join the freedom.
	And I think that's one of the mistakes in Texas.
	You know, they get new immigrants in and then, you know, there should be a strong party apparatus that within a month, somebody in the neighborhood, knock, knock, knock.
	Hi, I'm from the local Republican Party and I want to invite you to join with us.
	And this is what we're doing to preserve what you came to Texas for.
	Right.
	And some people are going, I'm still going to be a damn communist.
	But other people are going to go, huh, I'm intrigued because I saw what happened where I left.
	I don't want that to happen here.
	Right.
	Well, look, to be fair, Texas has traditionally done a pretty good job of that when it comes to immigration from Mexico and Latin America, either illegal or legal.
	because at the end of the day, Texas is a strong identity.
	The folks who show up in Texas are voting Republican within two generations.
	The folks who show up in California, where there is no identity or a very weak one, they still fly Mexican flags.
	The ones who come to Texas very often, they want To wear cowboy boots and listen to country music and to become American.
	So really, I mean, all these things are basically the same.
	And what pulls them together is you cannot defeat anything with nothing.
	You need to have a strong identity.
	You need to have a sense of purpose.
	And if you are bringing people here to a place, to a new state or a country or whatever, you have to be assertive and say, this is who we are, and we're not going to change because you decide to show up in whatever numbers.
	Well, Dave Reboy of LateRepublicNonsense, how do people find you?
	How do they find LateRepublicNonsense?
	Well, they find me on Twitter, or they do a Google search.
	They can go to my website, daverboy.com.
	There are just many ways, but put it into the Google.
	Well, look, I'd like to do a whole other segment with you.
	I can't.
	I got Adam Laxall coming up, but we'll just have to put off our discussion of jazz till the next time.
	Thank you, Dave Reboy, Late Republic Nonsense, highly recommended here on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	We'll be right back.
	I told him.
	I told him, Booker.
	Alright.
	You want the mics off for Laxalt?
	Yeah, please.
	I told him.
	I told him.
	All right.
	You want the mics off for Laxol?
	Yeah, please.
	Okay, yeah.
	All right.
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	I am Kurt Schlichter.
	The day after the 2020 election, I got a call from Rick Grinnell, and he asked me to come out and lawyer in Las Vegas to fight for election integrity.
	And when I got there, I saw a Tasmanian devil.
	He was moving in all directions.
	He never stopped.
	He never quit.
	This guy was the Energizer Bunny.
	This guy was Adam Laxalt, and Adam Laxalt is now running for the Senate in Nevada.
	A recent poll has him up four points over that non-entity.
	I don't even remember her name, but I'm glad to have him here.
	My friend, Adam Laxalt.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thanks for having me.
	It's great to see you.
	The last time I saw you was about two weeks ago at the Basque Fry in Nevada, and they eat a part of the sheep that you're not used to eating.
	But I gotta tell ya, I went and ate it, and I have now checked the Basque Fry box.
	So I hope that lets me in the club.
	You have to see it to believe it.
	I mean, it is, you know, we started that in 2015.
	Since Nevada is one of the first four presidentials, there was no kind of marquee event.
	And we had seven presidentials come that first year.
	And this has just been annually a landmark event to have national conservatives come in.
	And we get a couple thousand conservatives from all over the state that drive in.
	It's the oldest, one of the oldest working ranches in our state.
	And As you saw, Kurt, right there with the mountains as a backdrop, big beautiful Nevada skies.
	It's just, there's nothing like it.
	It was beautiful and I, look, I admire the way that you get top shelf folks out there.
	Ted Cruz was speaking on the same bill.
	I know that Ron DeSantis, who does not typically help people, came out and helped you because you're Navy buddies.
	You actually served in our military together.
	That's pretty incredible.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And Ron's showing a lot of folks how to get it done, that's for sure.
	Now, look, I think you are our number one pickup in America.
	Nevada is the state that if we don't win in Nevada, we're just not going to win anywhere.
	And I know how hard you work.
	I remember, gosh, during the election fight, you were up before me, which is rare, and you went to bed after me, which is also rare.
	And you just never quit, and your focus was really remarkable.
	I mean, I know a lot of politicians.
	I'm not friends with a lot of them.
	I'm friends with you, and you're, you know, you're a guy I want to see in the Senate.
	How, when you are a senator from the great state of Nevada, what, what, what is your intent?
	How do you expect to do that job that's going to distinguish you from some of the guys who just kind of want to be there and be senator?
	Yeah, well, look, we just mentioned Ron DeSantis.
	We need a whole lot more guys on our team that understand that we need to go on offense.
	And, you know, we cannot do business as usual.
	We have to find ways to not just, you know, hold the line, but actually take back territory that we all know we've been losing over the last few decades.
	And so, you know, finding ways that we can go on offense, hopefully creating a group within the Senate that is willing to do that.
	You know, push for things like a parental bill of rights, for example.
	You know, that's not something we were talking about necessarily nationally a few years ago.
	But it's the kind of new thinking that we need to embrace.
	Because if we allow critical race theory and all this indoctrination to infect all our schools, then it's all lost, right?
	And so our big tech, I mean, what we're seeing out of big tech, and everybody knows Hunter Biden and all the Political censorship, but even the campaign world right now, Kurt, they are censoring our emails.
	Over 90% of our fundraising emails are being sent to junk.
	The Democrats, none of their emails get sent to junk, right?
	And so it doesn't take a genius to know why our fundraising on the small dollars is slower and theirs is bigger.
	They're literally not allowing us to communicate in the way the Democrats are commuting.
	This is an important issue and we need to have a number of solutions that go after big tech.
	And it's just that kind of thinking.
	Waking up every single day, how can we save our country?
	How can we go on offense?
	What does that look like?
	We just need more energy and a lot more can-do attitude.
	Well, you know, Adam, that's the kind of aggressive, take-the-offense attitude I expect from a United States Navy officer.
	You, of course, served overseas for our country, and we're very glad.
	You've helped our country.
	How can our people help you?
	Where can we go to donate to get you in the Senate?
	Yeah, look, adamlaxell.com is our site, and I hope nobody now doesn't know that the Democrats are raising unlimited amounts of cash They will spend whatever it takes to fool voters.
	And in my state, they're just trying to buy this seat.
	They've given her so much money.
	She's the most vulnerable senator up for election.
	She's been sitting at 43% or below.
	But they are just dominating with the money.
	And so we need to respond with small-dollar grassroots all across the country.
	And we need to know which races do matter.
	This one is the 51st seat.
	And then pick a handful of other people that you think are going to fight for this country.
	They're going to take the right attitude and support them as well.
	But it's time to get off the sidelines.
	It's time to find ways to engage in this conflict and help take back our country.
	Well, look, Adam Laxalt, I've gone out to two campaign events for you, and you are always moving, always working, which impresses the heck out of me.
	Because, you know, there are a lot of folks who are lazy, who just take things for granted.
	You don't.
	You are fighting for Nevada, and you have deep, deep Nevada roots.
	What is your strategy for winning?
	How are you going to win against this overwhelming tsunami of California and New York money?
	Yeah, look, I think one of the main areas that I've been pushing at since February is to push for the largest turnout and largest support from the Latino community that we've ever had on the ballot here.
	And so we've planted that flag.
	We've been doing events the entire year.
	I mean, you cannot believe the energy that we're able to garner.
	And new voters, people that never come to these events before, Democrats that have converted in the last few years.
	And, you know, I just did a big national interview on this.
	This is the hot topic they're trying to cover.
	And they said, well, why is this happening?
	And I said, well, for every single reason possible.
	You know, our schools were shut down.
	So single moms couldn't make it trying to work and having to deal with school.
	At the same time, they got to listen to the education their kids were getting and realize that that their children are being poisoned with with hateful rhetoric.
	And they also know that a lot of jobs were shut down small businesses at all time highs across our state.
	And then on top of that, right, you've got inflation.
	Nevada's 15%.
	We're one of the highest in the country.
	We have the second highest gas in America.
	And so, Las Vegas Valley is ground zero for failed Democrat leadership.
	And they have no one to blame now.
	They can't point to Donald Trump.
	They can't point to Republicans in Washington.
	They can't point to Republicans in Nevada.
	Because they're in charge of everything.
	And so, this is our time to flip the Senate.
	Well, how do we help you, Adam Laxalt, as we head into a break here on America First?
	AdamLaxalt.com.
	Everybody, you need to help Adam Laxalt.
	He's the real deal.
	I know him.
	I respect him.
	And I want him as at least number 51.
	And let's get to 54.
	But 51 is Adam Laxalt.
	Go help him out.
	out.
	This is Kurt Schlichter, America First.
	Thank you.
	It's not what I wanted.
	Okay, mics are back on on Rumble.
	Okay, who we got next?
	Um, this is a C segment for Reeds, I believe.
	Okay, so yeah, I will get, uh, I gotta do, uh, oh man, I gotta do two more cars.
	Don't let me forget my cars.
	I do cars at the beginning of each one.
	Yeah.
	The big, the big car is this segment, right?
	I'll do the big car.
	Okay, and then you also got food, and we already did JCN, so that's done.
	So yeah, food, big car.
	And after this, you have Crowley, and then the E segment, where it probably would be best to do the second segment.
	No, after this, you have Parnell.
	Oh, that's right.
	Sorry.
	No, Parnell's gone.
	It's Crowley.
	Oh, it is Crowley, this segment.
	It is Crowley.
	Do I have the updated one?
	It's Crowley, this one, and then... Crowley, and then Keira Davis at the beginning of A3.
	John Gabriel at 4.
	And I'll have a monologue for B Block next hour.
	Alrighty, I'll update the show script once more.
	I always put a, uh, uh, uh, as of time up in my corner of my little thing.
	Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
	Fun!
	Driving liberals insane every single day.
	It's just a sport for him.
	He's Colonel Kirchlichter.
	Two minutes.
	Alright.
	Yeah, I thought, I thought Laxalt was good to go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Again, he is the strongest candidate they can run in Nevada.
	If he can't pull it off, then nobody could have won that seat.
	Because I know, like, Dean Heller was running for governor, and I'm like, well, didn't you just lose a Senate election, buddy?
	Trafalgar also had that guy Lombardo winning governor, too.
	Yeah, Lombardo.
	Yeah, we need to get him in, too.
	Yeah, I really like Adam.
	I think he's a genuinely good guy.
	Some of these guys are stiffs.
	I like him.
	I mean, just the hardest working guy you ever met.
	I didn't even know he served at the same time as DeSantis.
	He was DeSantis' roommate in Navy school.
	Oh my god, that's awesome.
	Such a great batch of Senate candidates all across the country.
	Again, you got Vance.
	You got Masters.
	I like Vance.
	I like Masters.
	Everyone's like, Vance is a weak candidate.
	Vance is not a weak candidate.
	Have you never been to Ohio?
	I was born in Ohio.
	Don't tell me about Ohio.
	I was sick and tired of the conservatives.
	Oh, he's not really pro-Trump.
	Like, get out of here.
	Like, then why Trump endorse him?
	Well, you know... As long as he's not a never-Trump sissy.
	He's running for Senate in Ohio.
	He should be pro-Ohio.
	Yeah, which he is.
	That's his job!
	His book is one of the best books I've read in a very long time.
	Yeah.
	Very cheery.
	It's just a sport for him.
	He's Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
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	You're mad the government's defending Fauci because DeSantis called Fauci an elf.
	What's up with that?
	Well, welcome back, Colonel Slichter.
	Thank you!
	Well, I wanted you to ask if you had heard of how California's grotesque Nazi Newsome had some sick, pathetic need to shield his tiny, mass-murdering, evil elf, Dr. Fauci, from America's truly great... Well, hold on.
	Hold on, Brent.
	Look, if you're looking kind of the Tolkien thing, elves are tall and lithe and beautiful creatures.
	Wouldn't he be more like a gnome?
	Or like a little goblin?
	Well, actually... Maybe an evil hobbit?
	I don't know.
	He's tiny.
	I didn't really like that DeSantis was calling him an elf either, when in fact he's a mass-murdering Dr. Mengele and a blood-drenched Democrat demon.
	Look, we've heard a lot about elf-chucking.
	I've heard, you know, about dwarf-tossing.
	Elf-chucking.
	As I understand it, David French would call elf-chucking a blessing of liberty.
	Is that a thing?
	Well, whatever it is with elves, I just take this this killer very seriously.
	And Gavin's health care, like Fauci's genocide jabs, they're designed to destroy the lives of as many children as they can get their demonic hands onto.
	And Newsom's love just shouts to all America, come to California, we'll kill your kids for you for free.
	Then you can go off to Disney land to party with cartel-imported fentanyl from our CCP friends.
	Man, I thought I was cynical, and then I met Brent.
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	And Monica Nets.
	Oh, I thought you were talking about the great elf goblin debate.
	No, Brent was great.
	Maybe he's a gnome.
	Are there gnomes in Middle Earth?
	I don't know.
	I don't want to know.
	You want the mics off for Monica or on?
	Let's keep them on.
	Alrighty.
	Jeff's dialing her up now.
	All right.
	Just let her know we're on or I'll do that.
	Yeah.
	Okay, now I can get some calls at the top of the hour.
	And then we got Kira.
	Alright, three minutes.
	And if we patch her through, Alex.
	Alright, we got it.
	Only Colonel K. Kurt Schlichter.
	All right.
	We got it.
	Hi, Monica.
	You here?
	Hey, Kurt.
	Yes, I am.
	How are you?
	Oh, I'm terrific.
	I figured perhaps you could offer some insight into the collection of documents in a post-presidential residence.
	Actually, I do have some experience with that, given my work with President Nixon, so I'm happy to talk about it.
	Yes, you certainly do.
	Nobody ever sent guys with guns to take back some over-classified napkin sketch.
	It's so unbelievable, and it's easy to laugh at what they're doing, but it's so incredibly dangerous.
	It is.
	You know, I just – I'm always stunned by the deep, deeply stupid nature of these people.
	They think that, you know, America is like a Jenga tower, and they keep pulling out blocks, and they think it's all going to stay up no matter what they do because they can't imagine anything else because of the efforts of better men and women than them.
	who built it.
	Yes, like you.
	Oh gosh, I was a girl.
	I didn't do nothing.
	Oh, yes, you did, Coach Lichter.
	I actually think it's worse than that.
	I think they are actively working on the implosion of the country.
	I think they want the collapse so they can rebuild it in this neo-Marxist image.
	That's what I think is going on.
	Absolutely.
	We will certainly cover that when we go.
	And by the way, the Rumble people can hear us, so we've got to make sure we're on.
	Yes, I know.
	I know.
	We're leaving all the great stuff on the cutting room floor.
	I know, right?
	Let's bring in the locker room.
	Hey, Rumble guys, we're giving you gold here.
	It's true.
	But how's the podcast doing?
	Fantastic.
	Thank you for asking.
	It's going great and I appreciate the plug.
	I will ask on air as well.
	And yeah, I mean, I get to come in and be a guest host and I don't, you know, my preparation is talking to producers for 10 minutes and then I get a bunch of guests and we chat.
	It's easy for me, but you actually have to, like, prepare.
	I actually do work, Kurt.
	I know, I'm against that.
	I actually do do show prep, yes.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
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	Hey, I am so excited to, on this day, the big day of redactions, to welcome somebody who may know a little bit about managing presidential papers.
	She's got her own podcast, the Monica Crowley podcast.
	Monica, welcome to America First!
	Hey Kurt, so good to be here with you.
	Thank you so much.
	Well, look, first of all, you just started this podcast a couple months ago.
	How's it going?
	Oh, thank you for asking.
	It is going fantastic.
	It's called the Monica Crowley Podcast.
	You can get it wherever you get your podcasts.
	Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, wherever.
	And I do it three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
	And I gotta tell you, today's show is pure fire.
	Like all of my shows are pure fire.
	I've been on your show.
	I was pure fire.
	I was a fire demon.
	Yeah, you absolutely were, and I can't wait to have you back.
	But yeah, please go check out my podcast, because really, we are in an existential fight for the country, and every show I do is geared towards saving America.
	Well, Monica Crowley, we were talking off-air, which you can hear if you're on Rumble.
	You should go to Rumble and watch so you get the little interstitial stuff.
	You work very closely with President Nixon following his departure from the White House.
	You understand about how presidents obtain and maintain their papers.
	What do you think of Redaction Fest 2022?
	Yeah, you know, I've been very blessed, Kurt, in that I have worked for two American presidents.
	President Nixon during the last years of his life, and President Trump when I went into his administration working at the Treasury Department.
	Now, I often say, Nixon and Trump, man, do I know how to pick them, or what?
	Only the most controversial presidents for Monica.
	No Warren G. Harding's for me.
	One of the things that Nixon and I used to talk about was presidential papers because, you know, the Nixon case is very interesting, Kurt, and you will appreciate this as an attorney.
	So when Watergate happened, the government came in and impounded a bunch of presidential papers as part of the criminal investigation into Watergate.
	And then when Nixon resigned, it all sort of became moot after Gerald Ford's pardon of him.
	But there were all kinds of papers that remained in question and remained in limbo because the government controlled some and Nixon controlled some.
	So it's a very interesting question that really hasn't been litigated the way I think Donald Trump is now going to take this, I think, all the way to the Supreme Court, which is why we saw last week When he moved to file a motion on Fourth Amendment grounds That this was a violation of his Fourth Amendment rights against illegal search and seizure, and this widespread warrant, this general warrant, which the Fourth Amendment bans.
	So I think you're actually going to see a case, and I hope this is the case, so that we can litigate this and have it cleared up all the way at the top, which is, what right to precedent do presidents have to declassify, to hold on to certain papers, Going forward, because it's never really been litigated.
	I will say, you know, President Nixon after Watergate, I mean, that was one hell of a controversy.
	Nobody raided Richard Nixon's home.
	Nobody showed up guns-a-blazin' very early in the morning to try to gather top-secret documents or claim any kind of sense that Nixon absconded with anything.
	So you never solved with anybody and all presidents have under the Presidential Records Act.
	They've got about 12 years to manage their papers, work with the National Archives as they develop presidential libraries.
	They got about 12 years to do this.
	So, my understanding, and I'm not a lawyer, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that under the Presidential Records Act, Donald Trump would certainly, within his right, be working with the archives as he was to manage these documents.
	Well, Monica Crowley, you know, if we want to pretend this was done in good faith, you would scratch your head and say, Is it the way that you solve these things?
	You know, a couple lawyers pick up the phone and talk about, oh, you know, we need these documents.
	Oh, OK.
	You can have these documents.
	They have classification markings.
	We'll give you these.
	And you work it out.
	But the idea, I mean, the giveaway that this is not a good faith thing is you send basically the FBI HRT team in to rummage through Melania's underwear drawer looking for the, you know, Mission Impossible knock list which of course Trump being, you know, the noted voracious reader that he is no doubt took and was highlighting and putting notes on as if he packed it himself.
	I mean the whole thing, I think the whole thing's extremely dangerous because you have now elevated The power of law enforcement against a political opponent, and I don't know if there's any going back from that new status quo.
	Yeah, and look, this has been going on a long time, the weaponization of all of our institutions, but the most dangerous ones being the DOJ, FBI, and IRS.
	And now, Kurt, it looks like the leftist, the neocommunist takeover of those institutions is nearly complete.
	In the case of the IRS, it's literally weaponized.
	We are having tens of thousands of new agents that are going to be packing heat.
	What do they need?
	Do they have pencil pushes?
	What do the IRS agents need guns for?
	So we are in a very, very dangerous moment here for the country.
	And the point about Trump is, yes, of course this is about Donald Trump.
	He is an existential threat to the entire ruling class.
	And a major obstacle to their Great Reset program, their Great Reset agenda here at home, which is moving the United States away from a country that's based on individual liberty and economic freedom, you know, the things that made us great to begin with, and toward a neo-Marxist model under the rubric of what the World Economic Forum wants.
	Which is this international Great Reset.
	Remember, he was not supposed to be elected in 2016.
	It was supposed to be 8 years of Obama, 8 years of Hillary Clinton to lock it all in.
	Yep, and that didn't happen.
	Now, Maka Crowley, we're up against a hard break.
	Where can we find you and your podcast?
	Oh, thank you.
	So the podcast is available wherever you get your podcasts.
	It's called the Monica Crowley Podcast.
	Please check it out.
	And on Twitter and social at Monica Crowley, Instagram at Monica Crowley underscore.
	Thank you very much, Monica Crowley.
	We'll be taking some calls when Dr. Seb Gorka comes back on America First.
	I thought that was fun, Monica.
	That was so much fun.
	Yeah, sorry about the end.
	I didn't realize you had a hard break.
	That's okay.
	They're all hard breaks, so I suddenly... I hate... That's the one thing I hate about this.
	I gotta talk over people and crush them down so I can close it out.
	I feel so rude.
	Bottom line, we were pushed down by you.
	That was really fun.
	Well, yeah, it was good.
	I hope it alerted some people about the podcast.
	Thank you.
	Yes, I really appreciate that, Kurt.
	Not a problem.
	Well, boy, I sure hope we... Step one, I hope we win in November, which I think we will.
	But step two, I hope people are woke enough, conservative woke enough, to understand what we have to do to fight these people.
	Yeah, I mean, we're in a war, and I hope people are starting to understand that.
	This is all completely outrageous, everything that's going on, but this isn't a war for the country, and the left is at war against the Constitution and pre-market capitalism, and they're not going to stop until they crush both.
	So our side better understand that and be ready, willing, and able to wage this war.
	Yeah, there are way too many people who still think it's 2003.
	Oh, yeah.
	I like to use the analogy of, like, 1987.
	Like, Reagan and Tip O'Neill, and they're going out for drinks, and they just, you know, they disagree, but just on the margins.
	No, this is a completely different ball of wax.
	Well, look, I still think we're gonna win.
	Anyway, thanks a lot, Monica.
	Thank you, Kurt.
	I will get you back on, you know, in the future.
	Anytime.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Alright, who sounds good?
	E-Segment.
	Alright, I gotta do the liner.
	Yes.
	And that should be it for reads for this hour.
	Alright.
	Ah, there we are.
	Okay, we got four calls.
	I've got a couple in.
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	Well, so am I!
	Thank you very much.
	Ray!
	Can I make another comment?
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	Um, another thing is I think we are putting too much faith in our coming up elections that once we take over the House, all these wonderful things are going to happen.
	If the leadership does not change, nothing is going to happen.
	I think we're giving too much faith in McCarthy.
	I doubt anything is going to be done.
	You know, they're all talking no, no, no work.
	It's all BS.
	Well, thank you, Roma, in North Carolina.
	I have a column on that coming out on Monday on Town Hall.
	I am assuming your column is at Town Hall, Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
	You can find the Curt stuff.
	Ray in Livermore, here in California.
	Your business didn't qualify for PPP.
	No, no it didn't, Colonel.
	And like you, my sleep number is 45.
	I keep it really close.
	Nice.
	Yeah, I didn't qualify.
	You started by talking about a couple of air conditioning guys who didn't go to college who ended up paying for this.
	There's people who paid their own way and people who paid off their loans.
	The left loves spending other people's money and I couldn't get any of this government money for my business.
	We basically mortgaged our house.
	And uh had to borrow about 80 grand to keep our little business going and we did but about one-third or one-fourth of businesses across this state the nation are gone they are gone and so if anybody needs relief you can send relief to businesses that paid their own way to keep themselves alive but again the left loves spending other people's money the reason the federal government It's evil.
	Thank you, Ray in Livermore, California.
	is so they could finance Obamacare.
	No.
	So they're using one group of people to pay for something else, and now they're going to do it even a third time, use another group of people to pay off the second group of people to pay off the first group of people.
	It's nuts.
	And it's evil.
	It's evil.
	Thank you, Ray in Livermore, California.
	No.
	Look, when the Democrats run things, it's always a lie.
	It's always a scam.
	You can rely on that.
	You set your clock by it.
	Water's wet.
	The sky is blue.
	Democrats are corrupt and stupid.
	It's... These are... It is written, folks.
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	you.
	Mic's on, and I'll kick the camera on a guy.
	Hi, Kira.
	Hi, Kurt.
	Thank you so much for having me on today.
	Well, I want to talk about what you're doing and running for.
	And that guy, I'm going to make a phone call to him on the way home.
	So we'll set that up for next week.
	And I want to find a date I can bring Reno along, too.
	OK.
	And if you guys are open on the 24th, I've got a big fundraiser with Nick.
	If you want to come out for that.
	Oh, really?
	24th of September?
	Yeah.
	Out here in Orange County.
	Okay.
	We'll talk offline about that.
	Unless you want to bring it up, you can bring up anything.
	Remember, everybody on Rumble can hear us.
	Okay, great.
	So, I think we've got to talk a lot about California.
	I won't say anything bad.
	Okay.
	We've got to talk about California in general, but I want to talk about your experience in particular, because you're a conservative activist who's actually Running!
	Yeah, putting my money where my mouth is.
	So yeah, let's definitely talk about that because this is definitely an unexpected journey for me, but you know what's been happening.
	You know, we've been talking for two years about what's been going on.
	Oh yeah.
	What's your exact title at Red State?
	Deputy Managing Editor.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Welcome to America First with the one and only special guest host, Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you so much, Dr. Gorka!
	Listeners to America First, I need your calls because I've got two segments coming up after this next guest who is terrific.
	I've got two segments I want to fill with you.
	833-333-GORKA.
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	Give me a call.
	What do you want to talk about?
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	What do you want to talk about?
	Redactions, student loans, the damn communists.
	Anything you want.
	I am so excited about my next guest.
	She's a Red State's deputy managing editor.
	She's a personal friend.
	She's been to my house.
	She's had spaghetti with me.
	I go to New Wave concerts like New Order and The Damned with her husband.
	She is the incredible Kira Davis.
	Hi, Kira!
	Hi, Kurt.
	How are you doing?
	I'm not doing as well as you because you are putting your money where your mouth is as a mom, as a patriot, as a conservative.
	You are running for school board in Orange County, California.
	Can you believe it?
	Can you believe it?
	Like, we've spent our entire careers on the other side of this fence, like, criticizing politicians, and now I'm running to be a politician.
	Like, I can't even wrap my mind around it.
	But that's what citizens need to do.
	Sometimes you've got to step up, and you've done that.
	Let's get this, and we'll bring it up later, but I want to get out of the way.
	How can our people help you run for the school board in Orange County, which is a Very important position, influence-wise, in California.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Thank you so much.
	Absolutely.
	Well, just to start, I'm going to tell everybody what I'm all about.
	You already have probably guessed, but you can go to KiraForSchoolBoard.org.
	KiraForSchoolBoard.org.
	Hit that donate button.
	I've got the union machine against me, and they are really revving up, let me tell you.
	Our election is in November, and they are revving up.
	But I got into the race, Kurt, because My kids have been denied the education that we've been paying for here in our public school systems over the last two years.
	All of the mandates.
	My son was a 2020 graduate and he didn't really get to graduate.
	His whole senior year of high school ripped away from him over a complete overreaction from our local authorities.
	And we talk a lot about The president and Congress and what's going on inside the beltway.
	And of course that's important, but I think what parents like me and you found out during COVID is that the real authority in your life is at your local level.
	It wasn't Joe Biden that closed your schools.
	He suggested it, but it wasn't.
	He didn't have the power to do it.
	It wasn't Joe Biden that shut down his business, but he didn't have the power to do it.
	It was your local authorities.
	It's not Joe Biden.
	That's writing the curriculum in our schools that is promoting things like gender ideology and CRT segregation and discrimination.
	That's your local authorities doing that.
	And I'm in Orange County, which a lot of people feel is a conservative bastion in California.
	But let me tell you what, COVID has driven a lot of liberals out of San Francisco and L.A.
	into our area.
	And our board is liberal.
	I am running for the second largest school district in California.
	Our board is skewed liberal.
	We have a 5-2 liberal majority right now on our board, and I'm running to flip it with a couple of other people to make it a 4-3 majority.
	Well, Kira Davis of Red State, but also running for school board in Orange County.
	First of all, a couple things.
	First of all, positions like school board, that's important for citizens.
	It's also a great farm team for conservatives, because that is where you You learn some of the game and then maybe you go to the state assembly, maybe you go to Congress, maybe you go back to business and doing what you've normally done.
	I think that's one important reason that we should support conservative candidates.
	But the other, I think you're absolutely right.
	It's where the rubber meets the road.
	What have you learned from this experience?
	Oh, man.
	One thing I've learned is that it's one thing to be a conservative pundit and be criticized by trolls on Twitter and Facebook, you know, social media.
	We get that all the time.
	And you can brush that off.
	You develop a thick skin and people like you even have fun with it on Twitter.
	But it is totally different being criticized and hated by the people that you live with.
	By the people that your kids go to school with their kids.
	Like, I have learned that being a local, being involved in local politics is way different than being involved on a national level, and it requires more of an intimacy with your community.
	And I've learned that, you know, the establishment is never going to want you to come in there and change things.
	I've not only had to fight, again, Democrats, but even to get into this race, I had to fight people in my own party who felt like I was an outsider.
	Other Republicans, yes, who felt like I was too much of an outsider, too much of a firebrand.
	I'll tell you what, Kurt, it really makes people nervous that I'm a member of the media and I'm running for school board.
	Now, all these people, they're not nervous about all the members of the media that occupy the administration in Washington, D.C.
	Oh, that's a natural transition, but they cannot tolerate the idea of a member of the media Being on a school board and being privy to a lot of the information that most community members don't know.
	And that's making people nervous.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's interesting.
	You know, California has a notoriously, how do I say it, crummy Republican Party.
	You know, every time I go to a Republican event, I'm always the youngest and most ethnic.
	And it's just, it doesn't... You know, I look at it, it's a bunch of people who've failed for decades, and they're proud.
	I've been the head of the Republican Party in Maxine Waters' district for 30 years, and she's been...
	Congresswoman for 30 years!
	This is not a good thing.
	This is a track record of failure.
	Have you found a particular difficulty with people who are just kind of more interested in maintaining their crummy position in a broken organization than taking the organization to the next level and actually winning something once in a while?
	My personal experience at this very local level has been that there are two factions inside of the Republican Party.
	There are people who understand that the next wave of conservatism is really riding on this parent movement, and they really want to get involved, and they really want to shift the way they do business.
	That's why I got the endorsement of the Orange County That's why I have the endorsement of the Lincoln Club, which is a huge conservative pack here in Orange County because they recognize that we need to.
	We can't be doing business as usual, but there is another underground element of our local GOP people who I wouldn't say that they want business as usual.
	What they want is power and you know how you get power.
	We're seeing this play out on the national stage right now.
	If you can pick the winners, You become a kingmaker.
	You get some power.
	So there are some people who are like, well, I just don't want Kira.
	I didn't pick her.
	I want to pick the winner.
	And so the person that I pick, that's the person that I need to win.
	They want to be the kingmakers.
	And it's time for people, the business as usual people, to realize that era of local politics is over.
	You know who the kingmakers are?
	Parents, citizens, regular people.
	We're the people who are going to push us forward.
	Now, Kira, how can we help you again?
	Thank you, Kurt.
	You can go to my website.
	What I can use from you, from wherever you're listening, across the country, there's no caps on donations.
	What I can use for you is donations for my campaign.
	I am up against a union machine that's going to put in more than $100,000 against me for this little school board seat.
	So that's what I'm up against.
	You can donate at CuraForSchoolBoard.org.
	I'm running for the parents in my area, but I'm running for you, too, because this is a national movement.
	This is going to change everything in our country if we get our way.
	And we're doing it not on the backs of a presidential election, but your local election.
	That's powerful, and I do believe that the Democrats and the progressive left They don't know what to do.
	They're totally confused by this.
	So let's keep that going.
	Please come support me.
	KiraForSchoolBoard.org.
	That's K-I-R-A.
	Or follow me on Twitter at RealKiraDavid.
	Now, Kira, there are lots of moms, lots of dads out there who are very concerned, very disgusted about what they're seeing.
	And some of them are going, gosh, maybe I should run.
	What do you think?
	I think that there is a place for everybody.
	And running is a serious endeavor.
	So I would say definitely take it into consideration.
	But look, if you want to run, I think you should.
	Now is the time.
	I don't think there's going to be a better time for a citizen candidate.
	That being said, there are other ways to support the change that's going on.
	Maybe you don't have time to run.
	Don't feel like that's the only thing you can do.
	You can do things like volunteer.
	My volunteers are invaluable to me.
	The people who get out there and pass out the flyers, And share the information.
	They're invaluable.
	Volunteer for our campaign.
	Volunteer 5, 10, 15 hours.
	You know, just until November.
	Get out of your comfort zone.
	Sacrifice some of your time.
	If you have extra dollars to spare, I know it's distasteful to spend money on politics, but this is real politics right here that we're talking about.
	Kira, one more time, where can they go to help you?
	KiraForSchoolBoard.org.
	That's Kira, K-I-R-A, ForSchoolBoard.org.
	Please and thank you.
	Thank you so much, Kurt.
	Thank you, Kira Davis, for getting out there and doing what citizens do.
	Citizenship, it's not a spectator sport.
	You've got to be a citizen.
	You've got to act.
	You've got to participate.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	Be right back.
	Oh, OK.
	I thought that went well, period.
	I'm gonna call Tom today, period.
	fun.
	I thought that was a good hit.
	Yeah, that was good.
	Again, the scoreboard stuff is...
	It ties back to what I was saying that the cultural stuff is still super important I mean you look what happened in Florida with the Miami school board and all the others Like that's that's proof that that parent movement is I still think the key Three minutes.
	All right.
	Goodness.
	We don't have any calls at all barely All right, I'm going to do a little shake-up here.
	I'm going to do the call, I'm going to do the number, I'm going to do food for the poor, then I'm going to do the number again, then I'll take the calls, and hopefully that'll give us time to get some calls in.
	Number, food, number, calls.
	You got it.
	All right.
	So far, so good.
	It's gone fast!
	Yeah, it always does, especially on a Friday.
	What exactly is on the 24?
	Oh, boy.
	Oh.
	Somebody's like, do you know Dave Portnoy of Barstool Sports?
	Mr. Abortion Guy.
	that That's right, I know he Freaked out at the Dobbs decision.
	Well, it does kind of cut into his action.
	I didn't want to say it, but yeah.
	It was funny yesterday, Jim did a thing that he's done twice now when he gets to host the show.
	He lets the Rumble Chat suggest a topic for him to rant on, and then we take the top three and put them in a poll on Seb's Twitter and let the Twitter users vote.
	One of the three that made it to yesterday's poll came in last, but an interesting one is Barstool Sports and the Cowardice Therein.
	Barstool Conservatism, specifically.
	Which really is...
	Hey, you know what?
	If I don't get enough calls, I will, uh... I will throw to you guys... What do the Rumble Chat folks say?
	Uh, good point.
	Toss out some topics, and you can, like, grab one for me.
	Oh yeah, you got it.
	That'll be fun.
	Participating.
	The Rumble Chat is here, and they do, they are very active.
	Well, you guys can hear me, right?
	Right!
	Yes, they can hear you.
	Suggest some topics!
	Get some topics running!
	I'm gonna get a ton of calls, though.
	Gosh.
	Your board lights up.
	I can't believe I'm down to two.
	Neither of them seems insane.
	I like the guy who's like, I want to talk about fiat money.
	That makes you of us.
	That makes you of us.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	I am guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	Retired United States Army Colonel.
	Noted Los Angeles trial lawyer.
	Author of the new non-fiction book, We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
	You should go get it.
	I am also the author of the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative action novels.
	Number six is The Split.
	It's available now.
	Number seven is Inferno.
	Look for that in October.
	If you like gunplay and making fun of communists, the Kelly Turnbull series of People's Republic novels.
	Wow!
	You're gonna love them.
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	We got open segments.
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	But we got great guests.
	But we got open segment.
	And I want your input.
	833-33-GORKA.
	Hey, we're entering into the final weekend of our summertime campaign for Food for the Poor.
	We officially wrap up this amazing effort to help refugee children next Wednesday, August 31st.
	When our campaign concludes, the kids and families displaced by the war in Ukraine are still going to need food and emergency supplies.
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	Michael in California.
	How does the president have power to cancel student debt?
	That's 833-334-6752. Michael in California.
	How does the president have power to cancel student debt?
	Is that your question? - What a treat to speak with you, Colonel Kay.
	It is a great honor, and I'm glad that you recognize that, said the guy with absolutely no ego.
	I'm a little confused.
	How does Biden have the authority to cancel a contract between an individual citizen and a bank?
	Well, look, frankly, that question is transphobic and expresses hatred towards, I don't know, Latinx people or something.
	I don't know!
	He's just making it up as he goes along!
	This guy is so far gone.
	This desiccated old weirdo is... I mean, you know, I think we fall into a trap trying to find a reason to do this stuff other than I kind of want to and I think it'll help me.
	You know, of course there's no There's no power to do this.
	It's ridiculous.
	By the way, I'm a food fluid male.
	My pronouns are short rib and leave the gun, take the cannoli.
	Nice!
	Nice godfather reference.
	May I offer my prayers to the 13 heroes that we lost a year ago today?
	Look, you certainly may.
	I represented one of the families for a short time, and I was part of the briefing that the families received about the tactical situation, what actually happened.
	And I can report to you that the Marines, the Navy Corpsmen, the soldier who were killed, and all the wounded performed Remarkably, they were tactically proficient, they were brave, they were courageous, they were put in a position that they never should have been put in.
	It was a disgrace from the brass and their commander-in-chief.
	And those young patriots, you know, all America should be unbelievably honored by what they did on this anniversary.
	And sadly, you know, The mainstream media is going to ignore them and instead, you know, hey, look, Joe Biden's back.
	He's got his aviator glasses and the families of the people his incompetence killed are going through another day of hell.
	So just just keep that in mind when somebody says the media is not that bad.
	That's what the media is doing.
	Thank you very much.
	I'd like to go to Eric in San Jose.
	What do you think of student loans, Eric?
	Hi, how you doing?
	I'm doing great.
	Uh, great.
	I too am a military, former military officer and have the same sentiment that you do also, so thank you for your service.
	Well, look, I was a colonel, so you know I didn't do anything except stand there with a cup of coffee.
	I got out as a major real quick, so... Okay, you were a field-grade lieutenant.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	So what I'm trying to say is, This example of repayment of debt is just another example of perversion of justice.
	And as we know, if you look back, and you may know, I'm probably perhaps reminding you about the book, The Republic, wherein Socrates reminds an old man that if he does not repay a sword that is deposited in his name, he may be doing justice to the old man if the old man is not in his right mind.
	And so really what you can take away from that is that Social justice, that is non-monetary repayment, would be really not repaying someone to save their lives.
	Now, when you look at social justice, how is it saving the lives of anyone by not repaying it?
	It's only saving their lifestyle.
	And that's the left.
	Where in social justice, the history of it, And I happen to be a social worker.
	I was in the military.
	Is historically to save the lives of people who are not in their right mind.
	In other words, if you have a sword, I'm not going to repay it to you if you're not in your right mind.
	You might hurt yourself.
	I think, you know, it's such an insult.
	To have people make a personal choice and then expect other people who made different and many times harder choices.
	They didn't get a four-year vacation at the University of College.
	And to expect that they labor for someone else's benefit.
	And thank you very much for the call.
	It's not about justice.
	It's about power.
	Stephen, in Los Angeles, you don't want DeSantis to run for president.
	Why not?
	Well, first of all, thanks for taking the call, and congratulations on all your impressive accomplishments.
	That's really something.
	It's all perfect attendance.
	Hey, if I could just ask a tongue-in-cheek question.
	How'd you ever make Colonel with such a high-pitched voice?
	Because I backed it up with being awesome.
	That's the answer.
	Look, if you guys want somebody modest, find somebody who's not a trial lawyer.
	Here's a hint.
	If a trial lawyer is modest, don't hire him because he may know something you don't.
	This is the high-pitched Kurt Schlichter sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorka.
	We'll be back!
	We'll be back soon.
	Time for that.
	Four minutes, yeah.
	All right, mics are on.
	Just like that, we're three segments left.
	Gabriel's D, right?
	Yeah, he's D. Oh, there it is.
	Okay, we got a six-minute segment.
	Looks like I got two calls.
	You've done all the reads, right, I think?
	Yeah, reads are done.
	I'll do the two calls, we'll knock those out, and it'll be great.
	All righty.
	Maybe Steven can call up and try and do his Howard Stern thing again.
	Three minutes. .
	I'm pretty sure we still have some liners left there, Alex.
	Yeah, we got it.
	Do we have any?
	I did all the Oh, we're talking the the sub liners of you is what I was referring to.
	Oh, yeah, cuz I know we've got quite a few of those We've only used a couple I think so far You're doing Gabriel for one segment or two segments because you could have them for two if you wanted Well, we got the last segment.
	I might keep them over a bit, or I might just rant.
	I'll see.
	That's your call.
	I'll see how it feels.
	I'll do the phone numbers at the beginning.
	I'll go to Eric, and then I'll go to Chris.
	Not too many suggestions.
	From the Rumble chat, though, you did ask Rumblers to throw out a couple of those suggestions.
	They have no suggestions.
	There's a few, there's a few.
	One regular user, BuckFightin, a regular in our chat, says, Dems now demonizing the vaccines and blaming Trump.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	And then user StarkFreeOrDie says, we want to hear the Lewandowski Nevada story you teased yesterday.
	I'm not going to tell.
	That's OK.
	I had a feeling.
	Quite a few people in the rumble chat, not necessarily suggesting a topic, but I'm seeing a lot of mentions of Breitbart's going to do that Hunter Biden movie with like Robert Davi and like a bunch of people, so they're excited for that, I guess.
	Well, that's good.
	I'm glad they got some funding.
	Well, we had a while back, we had Paul Kangor on, Seb did, and he mentioned they're making a movie next year based on his book about Reagan.
	And it's got like every conservative actor in Hollywood.
	It's got Robert Davi, Jon Voight, Nick Searcy, Randy Quaid plays Reagan.
	Randy Quaid plays Reagan?
	Yes.
	Or one of the Quaids.
	It can't be Randy Quaid.
	I'm sorry, which Quaid is it?
	I get the Quaids mixed up.
	Dennis Quaid, I'm sorry.
	See, I get them all mixed up.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dennis Quaid.
	See, the thing is, the problem with a conservative movie thing, as I know, because people keep going, Kurt, we should make your movie.
	Make your books into a movie.
	I can get funding, okay?
	Can you get distribution?
	What?
	If you can't get distribution, first of all, you can't get money.
	Right.
	If you can get Amazon to buy it ahead of time, it'll get made.
	Bud.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	We're back with Colonel Kurt Schlechter.
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	We are back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	This is Kurt Schlichter, as the good doctor said.
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	I want to go right to Eric in San Jose, California on student loans.
	Yeah, 334-6752 is the number to chat with me.
	I want to go right to Eric in San Jose, California on student loans.
	Hi, Eric.
	Oh, no, Eric.
	We are Eric Free here at America First.
	How about Chris in Idaho?
	Land of the potato.
	Yep, best food.
	Oh, well, how's it feel to grove Brian Stelter?
	Well, that's one thing we try to get rid of.
	That's kind of like the eye on it or the ear.
	I have a friend who moved from California up to Idaho.
	He swears by it.
	Tells me you gotta come to Idaho.
	There's a lot of people from California moving up here.
	Yeah, but he's not a communist.
	That's good.
	There's a few up here, though.
	So, Chris, what do you think of student loans?
	Well, in my opinion, I was listening to Matt Gaetz, and he brought up a good suggestion.
	The easiest way to get rid of the student loan apparatus is if you're sold a bag of false goods, then why not be allowed to put that on your bankruptcy?
	You know, and if you have so many people bankrupt them, then they're not going to be able to put out those student loans to indoctrinate people at major universities.
	They'd have to figure out a different way.
	And plus, on top of that, every year they keep raising tuition prices to put, you know, students further and further in debt.
	Well, of course.
	If you're offered $10,000 of free money, The guys are going to sell you whatever it is for $9,999.
	Yeah, I mean, it's so obvious.
	Now, the thing about bankruptcy is these loans are guaranteed by the federal government, so there's no risk to the actual lender.
	Unless the lender is, of course, the federal government itself.
	In which case, it just becomes another giveaway.
	You know, look, academia as is currently constituted, and I want to thank you, Chris, for your call.
	Academia as currently constituted needs to be destroyed.
	We need to stop pretending that these four-year colleges are these islands of intellectual debate and discovery where people go and become better people.
	No, a lot of people go there and become idiots.
	And not only idiots, but idiots with $200,000 in debt that they expect you and me and the guy who fixed my HVAC to pay off for them.
	And I gotta tell you, I'm not down with that.
	Charlie in Cleveland, are you down with that?
	Absolutely not.
	But first, I just want to thank you for introducing me to evil Christmas music a while back.
	Thank you.
	I always try to make a difference.
	Unfortunately, it's usually for the worst.
	I love it.
	Regarding the student loan forgiveness, the definition of student loan forgiveness, in my view, is penalizing success and rewarding failure.
	Yes.
	And this is going to get challenged in the courts.
	It's going to be overturned, maybe a year or two from now, but at the end of all that, it'll all be worthless because the effects will already have taken place and the bribes will already have been returned in the form of Democrat votes.
	I think a lot of normal people, people who paid their bills, like me, I paid off 70 grand in student debts, and I paid for the rest of law school either with money I worked for or money I got through GI Bill from being in the Army.
	I'm mad.
	Now, I was always going to vote Republican, but I think there are other people out there who are going, you know, I've gotten shafted here.
	This isn't right.
	Do you think this will be a net positive for the Democrats or for the Republicans?
	I think they're going to get something out of it.
	It's probably, hopefully, not going to be enough to make that much of a difference.
	But, you know, there's those stupid people that... I think Kellyanne Conway's kids posted something on Twitter the other day about, hey, Republicans, I'll take $10 million.
	They gave me $10,000 for my vote.
	Republicans, I'll take $10 million and I'll vote for you.
	Well, I'm going to leave the Conway kids aside.
	They're burdened with a father who's kind of an idiot, so I'm not going to think about them very much.
	But I do think that this sets a terrible example, and I think it's an insult.
	And it is an insult especially to folks who got the GI Bill, some of whom got wounded in the service in this country.
	that just existing is enough.
	Now, here's the thing where I disagree with you a little, Charlie.
	I think the evidence is showing me that this is going to be a net negative for the Democrats, and my evidence is that a Democrat Senate candidate in Nevada whose name escapes me because she doesn't do anything, she's running against Damn Laxalt, and Tim Ryan are both running away from this.
	So they're saying, well, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	So, if they're doing that, that means they think this is going to hurt them, and they're out talking to people.
	This is the message that they have, and that's a good message for us.
	Here at America First, with Dr. Seb Gorka, I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	We've got John Gabriel coming up.
	stick around Gabriel's the segment He's by phone, right Jeff?
	Yeah, he's by phone.
	Okay.
	Mic's... Yeah, there we go.
	- There we go, mics are on. - We're back with Colonel. - That's what we just used, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay. - Do you want the mics on for the skirt or off?
	Oh sure, they can be on.
	It can be on already.
	All right, mics are live.
	And Alex, patch them on through. - Yeah.
	And we have them.
	2 minutes 45 seconds.
	Excellent.
	You there, John?
	I am here, sir.
	How you doing, playa?
	How's it going?
	Doing great.
	I have my ginormous cup of coffee here, so I am revved up.
	I'm fueled up for Kurt.
	Ready for a little vitamin K injection?
	Yeah.
	Excellent.
	Two minutes.
	So how you been, man?
	Doing really well.
	Yeah, keeping busy, traveling quite a bit, and the youngest just started school in the Midwest, so kind of empty nesting it, which is weird, but yeah, things are going well.
	Nice.
	Is that thing that we talked about, I hope you followed up on it.
	Um, not yet, actually.
	I need to do that.
	It's been a pretty chaotic week, but I will do that.
	Do you need me to text you the phone number?
	Oh, that'd be great, because I do not have it.
	I will do that as we speak.
	There is no time like the President.
	Yes, this is true.
	Wait, did I, uh... And the time is 1842!
	That is, that is our president.
	One minute.
	This guy, I love his aviator glasses.
	It makes him look so young.
	At least I don't have to see his glassy eyes.
	Half glass, like half glassy, half cloudy eyes.
	Okay, I'm not sure I sent that.
	I'm not sure it went to the right place.
	Got it.
	You got it?
	40 seconds.
	Got it.
	Thank you, sir.
	All right.
	There you are.
	Doing business!
	Here on America First.
	Here on America First.
	Here on America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	This is America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I am, guess who's Kurt Schlichter.
	I am super excited to have the guy you know as the Coffee Cup with Eyes from Twitter.
	You know him as xjohn on Twitter.
	He also writes Arizona Republic.
	Is that right, John Gabriel?
	Yeah, and getting stupider, as we've seen with the student loan madness.
	So, that was my last piece writing about that.
	You have good taste in music.
	You are amusing.
	And you find everything as stupid as I do.
	Yeah, and getting stupider, as we've seen with the student loan madness.
	So that was my last piece writing about that.
	I think it's curious timing that Biden hires 87,000 new IRS agents.
	And the next week he says, oh, by the way, America, I'm going to send them after you.
	You can pay for Biff G. Wellington's Harvard grad school degree because he needs to fly to Aruba for a destination wedding.
	So I'm very glad, like you, I was in the military, so That day for part of my school, then I worked the whole time I was going to school, then the student loans I took out, I did this crazy thing and paid them off.
	And now apparently I'm going to be paying a stranger's student loans off too, so I have that to look forward to.
	Well, I'm super excited about the opportunity to take money that I've earned for my family after paying off my own student loans and giving it to somebody whose Peruvian Marxist interpretive dance masters has led them to life in their parents' basements and making the Italian latte.
	So, that's super Well, they did get a minor in that Andean pan flute playing, so that will come in helpful.
	Yes, John Gabriel, master of the pan flute.
	You are the Zamphere of conservatism.
	Zamphere.
	Yeah, so we're going to be getting visited by IRS agents, I'm sure, and in the meanwhile, as we mentioned during the break, my youngest A few daughters and the youngest just started college, following her older sister.
	And, uh, so yeah, while mom and dad are scrambling to figure out, okay, how do we, she got a great scholarship, but how do we pay the rest of this?
	It's like, I really don't want to pay for other people's kids, but especially to since everybody on the left thinks, well, if you want to be worth anything, you need to go to college.
	And my whole perspective is if you want to clear out kind of an upper middle class dinner party, Start recommending to any sons and daughters high school age that they join the military or learn a trade instead, because they can actually make serious money there, but the education cartel doesn't get to dip their hands in the mom and dad's wallet.
	And a lot of people looked around and said, you know what?
	I can make a heck of a lot more money welding and I won't have student debt.
	Well, that guy or that woman should not have to pay for Somebody who didn't make the best choice of their grad school degree.
	Well, look, John Gabriel, I am told by all the smart people of smartness that, you know, this is going to help the Democrats.
	But then I see that non-entity running for Senate in Nevada, running from it.
	Tim Ryan, the everyman, burly, working man in Ohio, running from this.
	How do you think this is going to play out during the election?
	I don't think it's going to go well for Democrats.
	Like you say, it's the people, and I know in the last segment too you were talking about it, these people in more purple areas, and I can't recall his name either, a Democrat representative in New Hampshire, he's also just condemning this, making sure everybody hears how much he opposes this.
	This is not right, and it's just, Americans have this innate sense of fair play, even now.
	You know, when our media and the academy and world corporations are all kind of captured by the left, regular folks across the country, blue states, red states, purple states, they look at this and go, well, that doesn't sound right.
	Why am I paying for this?
	Um, why am I expecting other people to pay for my bills?
	I paid my own dang bills, darn it.
	And, uh, that's just this kind of innate sense of fair play.
	You can get it all into the legalisms and these are emergency powers.
	And of course, this is unconstitutional, what Biden's doing, even trying to do this scam.
	But I think most people, it's really going to turn them off because you already get a sense.
	Um, if you play by the rules, you're going to get punished by our government and society in general.
	And this is just more evidence of it.
	I think most people, you know, when I have student loans to pay off, it would have been great if I had some rich, long-lost relative to pay it off for me.
	But I'd feel kind of guilty for it, and I especially would feel guilty if a bunch of taxpayers who are struggling to make it in this high-inflation economy, I'd feel lousy if they were supposed to pay my bills, too, if they were supposed to pay my bills, too.
	It's like, no, I'm an adult.
	I'll pay this myself.
	That's my responsibility.
	It's what I'm going to do.
	And, you know, I can give charity one-on-one to people, whether I know them or not, people in my neighborhood, not to someone living across the country who got a degree that just didn't work out.
	Well, you know, John Gabriel, I wrote my last student loan check while deployed.
	In 2005.
	I graduated in 94.
	I wrote my last one in 95.
	And I'm grateful I had the chance to get a student loan.
	I paid it back.
	It never occurred to me that somebody else should pick up the tab.
	I just find the whole thing very frustrating.
	Yeah, and I can only imagine, uh, were he here, what my dad would be saying right now, and what he would have said to me if I, uh, cheated out of my own debt.
	It would have not gone well.
	No!
	And, you know, Dad was hardly a wealthy man, but, you know, he would, uh, I don't know.
	But he had dignity.
	He had bought that thing that I owed about a thousand bucks on a credit card in my twenties, and he was just like, what?
	You gotta pay that back?
	I'm like, no, Dad, I'm going, trust me, the bank's gonna make me pay it back.
	But you know, he was about dollars and cents and honoring your commitments and honoring your promises.
	It's just kind of basic intuitive human knowledge that this is not good.
	This is not going to go well.
	It wasn't a great idea during the housing bubble.
	I knew a lot of coworkers who would, you know, be almost making fun of me around the office.
	Why aren't you getting, you know, a 50-year balloon mortgage?
	You could move out to the Ex-Yards and get your McPherson.
	Hey, John, we have a break.
	Can you hold over for a minute?
	Because I want to ask you about Arizona, because you have the finger on the pulse of the Grand Canyon State.
	Can you hold over?
	You got it.
	All right.
	Stick around here on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	We'll be back with John Gabriel to close out this Friday.
	Open.
	Hey, John, I'm going to ask you about the election there and what you think.
	Sounds good.
	I hope it's more optimistic than some people are.
	Yeah, I am more optimistic.
	These national people don't know what they're talking about.
	The thing is, Arizona is like, you know, it really is a maverick state.
	It just kind of is going to do exactly what it wants to do, and to hell with all you outsiders.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, and I don't, I don't think it'll be, you know, I think it'll be a close-run thing, but these Democratic candidates are not impressive at all.
	Mark Kelly was an astronaut!
	Yeah, it's like the local press and the national press just say, these Republicans are crazy.
	It's like, it's curious you're not talking about the Democrats.
	You're just, you're just... Yeah, the Republicans are crazy, and they know that girls have no penis.
	Okay, it's not... I mean... Yeah, I mean... Did you know he thinks that men don't menstruate?
	Whatever!
	I just... the whole thing's so... The thing is, you have to... I get mad, except the whole thing is so transparently nonsense and just bad faith idiocy that I don't want to grapple with what they say On the basis of, this is ridiculous, because they know it's ridiculous, and they don't care because it gives them power.
	Right, right.
	And that's why you've always been good on Twitter, is you do not accept the insane assumptions they try to place on you.
	It's like, no, this is stupid.
	Yeah, I think about 20% of my responses are, oh, shut up, you idiot.
	Because I have nothing else to say.
	I mean, what am I going to do?
	No!
	A girl has a vagina and a uterus.
	And a boy has testicles and a penis.
	And it's like, I'm not explaining something they don't know.
	Yeah.
	They do know it.
	They're just lying.
	Or they're insanely stupid.
	I can't work with either of those things.
	See, we kept the gold for the Rumble chat.
	You are welcome, Rumble viewer.
	All right.
	All right.
	Can't handle the truth?
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Little, uh, gentle guitar noodlings.
	as we go to the end of the hour here on America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	My guest, you know him as Ex-John on Twitter.
	He's John Gabriel, writes for the Arizona Republic.
	Are you still at the Goldwater Institute?
	Nope, not there anymore.
	I used to be at the Goldwater Institute, a state-based think tank, working on school choice and limited government.
	Editor-in-Chief at Ricochet now, though.
	Podcasting and creating all sorts of goodness over there.
	Well look, nobody knows Arizona like you do, and certainly the mainstream media doesn't.
	Arizona is truly a maverick state, and sometimes that can be very annoying, other times it can be very useful.
	But we were talking offline with the Rumble Chat, you're not seeing the Arizona governor and senate race the way a lot of the mainstream media is at least pretending to see it.
	How do you see it breaking out for Carrie Lake and Blake Masters?
	Yeah, we'll see how it goes and anything happens in politics as you know, but the polling doesn't look good for Republicans.
	The polling has been absolutely atrocious in the state.
	They got the primaries all wrong for the most part.
	They said races were close when there were blowouts.
	They said, you know, I don't know, one guy was in the lead and he ended up coming in third, so it's just been a mess with that.
	The Democrats, I think it's very curious that the Democrats are not being mentioned at all in the national or even the local press because they're trainwrecks.
	You got, for the governor, you have Katie Hobbs.
	She's a Democrat.
	She's currently Secretary of State.
	And she's got scandals up the wazoo.
	She has a whole bunch of the Latino community mad at her because apparently she, when she got into office, was firing minorities left and right.
	She is a white-thinking, woke white woman.
	Basically, Governor Karen is what she wants to be.
	So voters are not enthused about her, especially in the Democratic base, which in the past couple election cycles, the Latino voting groups have been really active.
	And get out and vote for Democratic candidates.
	Well, they've been fighting her all through the primary.
	They are not thrilled with her at all.
	Then you got Mark, where the hell even is he, Kelly.
	He's an astronaut!
	That's all he talks about.
	I'm an astronaut.
	I'm tough.
	I'm an American hero.
	Meanwhile, he won't talk to the public.
	He won't meet with anyone.
	Anything that Biden burps out of his head, Mark Kelly votes for.
	Mark Kelly is responsible for our inflation.
	He's responsible for all the crap that we're in.
	And he will never, ever vote against his president, who doesn't know what he's doing.
	And he is just a go-along guy.
	He's also a hardcore gun grabber.
	That doesn't play in Arizona.
	Well, I'm glad to hear it, John Gabriel of Ricochet.
	and the Arizona Republic.
	And thank you guys all.
	Thank the crew here at America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	Thank you, the listeners, especially you Rumble viewers.
	It's always fun for me, Kurt Schlichter, to come in and guest host.
	I'm glad we could share this special time.

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