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Well, first things first, the truth is finally out with regards to the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Yes, we have the evidence, thanks to John Solomon of Just The News reports of the White House being behind the whole Illegal raid on President Trump's house before we get to that evidence I have to walk everybody through this because I've been doing media hits for other channels every single day I was on British TV twice today, and they still they still around the world are Believing a false narrative, so I'm gonna give you the ammunition you need to
To make sure that the truth gets out there.
But first, the latest announcements from President Trump and from the office of the former president.
This is from foxnews.com.
Brooke Singman, who for some reason seems to get exclusives because of who she Who knows?
Former President Trump and his legal team filed a motion Monday evening seeking an independent review of the records seized by the FBI during the unprecedented and unnecessary raid of Mar-a-Lago.
According to the motion filed in the evening with the U.S.
District Court for the Southern District of Florida, Trump and his lawyers are seeking an order to appoint a special master, that is a specific term,
...of use to review the records obtained during the search, requests a block on the further review of seized materials by the government until a special master is appointed, and requires the Justice Department to provide a detailed receipt of the property that they seized, and requires the government to return any item seized that was not within the scope of the search warrant.
According to the President's statements, quote, all documents had previously been declassified.
We are demanding the appointment of a special master to oversee the handling of the materials taken in the raid.
We are further demanding that the DOJ be forced to turn over a real inventory of my property without plants.
Yes, he used the word plants.
And disclose where the property is now located.
The wrongful overboard warrant was signed by a magistrate judge who recused himself just two months ago from a major civil suit that I filed because of his bias and animus toward me.
Now just think about that for one second.
Justice Brian Reinhardt who is, sorry, the magistrate who signed off on the initial warrant had just previously recused himself from another case That involved President Trump because of his own bias and because of the conflict of interest.
But two months later, he can sign a search warrant?
This Mar-a-Lago break-in, search and seizure was illegal and unconstitutional, and we are taking all actions necessary to get the documents back.
Okay, so that's the strategy of the President.
He needs to do some more media.
If you're listening, guys, we have our request in with Mar-a-Lago.
President Trump needs to get out there in terms of more than just truth social statements and legal actions.
He needs to be back on the media circuit.
So we are ready, ladies and gentlemen.
But let's look at the real blockbuster information.
You have been told that the White House knew nothing about this.
President Biden wasn't informed.
And this was solely done by the Attorney General and the FBI.
That is a lie.
Thanks to John Solomon, who has released information that is official, that is documented.
We now know the White House was behind it all.
This is by John.
Long before it professed no prior knowledge of the raid on Donald Trump's estate, the Biden White House worked directly with the Justice Department and National Archives to instigate the criminal probe into alleged mishandling of documents Allowed the FBI to review evidence previously retrieved from Mar-a-Lago this spring, and eliminated the 45th president's claims to executive privilege.
This is the most stunning part of all, and you'll have all the details, just bear with me.
This is all according to contemporaneous government documents reviewed by justthenews.com.
The official memos show that the then White House Deputy Counsel Jonathan Sue was engaged in conversations... This is the White House lawyer!
Was engaged in conversations with the FBI, the DOJ, and the National Archives as early as April before 15 boxes of classified and other materials were voluntarily returned to the Federal Historical Agency from Trump's Florida home.
Are you tracking?
President Trump is cooperating with the archives.
He's sending the materials back that they wanted.
But before that even happened, the White House is colluding with the archives, the FBI, and the GOJ on this issue.
By May, Sue conveyed to the archives that President Joe Biden would not object to the waiving of his predecessor, President Trump's claims to executive privilege, a decision that opened the door for the DOJ to get a grand jury to issue a subpoena compelling Trump to turn over any remaining materials.
Now, what does that mean in English?
A president traditionally has had executive privilege.
There are things that you cannot get out of a White House because they are sensitive.
Private discussions between confidants, relatives and so forth that are protected by executive privilege.
Biden said, no, after the fact, retroactively, I am deleting my predecessor, President Trump's executive privilege.
How on earth is that possible?
Can he delete?
Can he expunge other things done by the present?
Can he say his pardons of Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort or Steve Bannon are no longer pardons and they need to be arrested and put back in prison?
The most complete summary was contained in a lengthy letter dated May 8th that acting National Archivist Deborah Steidel Wall sent to Trump's lawyers summarizing the White House, the Biden White House's involvement.
Quote, On April 11th, 2022, the White House Counsel's Office, affirming a request from the Department of Justice supported by a FBI memorandum, formally transmitted a request to the archives that the FBI be provided access to the 15 boxes for its review.
The 15 boxes President Trump had returned The FBI said, the White House told the FBI to go through those boxes.
The letter revealed that Biden empowered the National Archives to waive any claims to executive privilege that Trump might assert.
Quote, the counsel to the president has informed me In light of the particular circumstances presented here, that President Biden defers to my determination in consultation with the DOJ, and I should not uphold the former president's purported protective assertion of executive privilege.
Last sentence is the money shot.
I have therefore decided not to honor the former president's protected claim of privilege.
You want to play that game?
Let's play that game.
When President Trump is back in the White House, whose executive privilege is he going to remove?
Let's start with Biden, Obama, Clinton.
Because I'm ready.
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Title for that one?
Biden, Mar-a-Lago, colon, Biden was behind it all.
Mm-hmm.
Now, the only other question...
Just stop!
We have him.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you want the mics off?
Off, yeah.
Sorry, Eric.
Thank you.
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All right, breaking news.
We have breaking news.
Shocking.
Sometimes there is justice in this country.
Paul Pelosi, the 82-year-old husband of the Speaker of the House, is going to do time.
Yes!
He's going to have a rap sheet.
He's going to have a record for that egregious DUI recently.
He has been sentenced to five days in jail And three years of probation.
I am surprised.
Hey, Mr. G, are you surprised?
Do we have Mr. G?
Yes, I am here.
I'm shocked that he's going to get five days.
I know!
I mean, God bless that sheriff or that police officer who said, I don't care who you are!
You're drunk!
And you're going to go to jail.
All right.
Somebody else who does his job properly and takes it very seriously, who's just visited my old boss, President Trump, is the representative for the 22nd Congressional District of the Lone Star State, Congressman Troy Nels.
Welcome back to America First.
Seb, it's good to be with you.
Yeah, Pelosi, why don't you send them up to the DC Gulag for five days and see how you like it.
What those prisoners from J6 have been dealing with for the past 18 months.
Yeah.
I tell you, horrific stories.
Seb, count me in for a hundred bucks.
Once I get done with this phone call, I'll send a hundred bucks to try to help those children from Ukraine.
And I'd like to look at that young man and say, you know what?
If we didn't have such a weak president, Putin would have never gone in and invaded your country.
So true.
I keep getting asked way back when, what would President Trump have done if Ukraine had invaded under his watch?
And I say, what do you mean?
It never would have happened under his watch.
You understand the man.
Put the photograph up.
This is something you posted recently with another buddy of ours, Congresswoman Tenney, Claudia Tenney.
So tell us about your recent visit with President Trump and what kind of mood was he in?
You know, that photo was the day after the illegal raid in Mar-a-Lago.
Wow.
And I tell you, you didn't see Trump sweating.
He met with us for over three hours.
It was a dinner meeting.
There were about 11 of us from the Republican Study Committee up there, up in Bedminster.
What a beautiful, beautiful place.
Beautiful golf course.
And he is such a great host.
I mean, he asked questions.
He answered questions.
He was signing hats and all sorts of things till his hand hurt.
But you didn't see any stress on his face.
You didn't.
I think truly that he is disappointed to see what this administration, what Joe Biden has done to the country in the last 18 months.
Donald Trump did so much to make America great again.
And now he has seen this president destroy what he's built.
You know, in four years, he destroyed it in 18 months.
So I think deep down, some of that concerns him and bothers him a little bit.
But he's encouraged, I believe.
I know, I believe he's coming back.
We need to clear the field, Seb.
Nobody needs to challenge him in a primary.
He's going to clobber them all, and then he's going to win the general election, and he's going to come back and make America great again.
Again.
I love that.
We need to get those hats a little bit expanded so it can be MAGA-R.
You have served this nation honorably as a sheriff, as a major in the reserves, also now representing Texas is a 22nd district.
I gotta ask you, you understand leadership.
You've been a leader.
The issue we have here are millions of listeners are worried that we can have a slate of MAGA candidates, all those ones endorsed by President Trump, win their races, come into Congress.
What about leadership?
Are we gonna see the requisite leadership?
Mitch in the Senate clearly doesn't like President Trump.
Can Kevin McCarthy be a MAGA leader?
Or are we just going to see business being the same old, same old kind of, you know, handshakes under the table with the Democrats?
What's going to happen after November?
You're right there.
Tell us.
Give us some hope.
Well, Kevin McCarthy's going to be the Speaker of the House.
There's no question about it.
It's a done deal.
It's done.
Now, what we have to do is just make sure that we hold him accountable.
And I believe that Kevin McCarthy's been around a while.
He understands.
If the American people are going to give the Republican Party the gavel back, That he must take care of it.
It's in his hands.
And I think he's going to do whatever he can to reach out to members like me and many of the others in the Freedom Caucus that are America's first patriots.
We have to get spending under control.
We have to get back to our Constitution and respect the Constitution and what it says.
And go after, quite honestly, these rhinos that we have.
I mean, we have a problem.
Because if he's a rhino, he might as well just be part of the Democrats.
He might as well be with the Democrats.
I mean, it's just not all the Democrats that have caused all the spending, either, and the silliness.
We have Liz Cheney, a good example.
Adam Kinzinger.
I mean, they're out there destroying the greatest president we've had in my lifetime.
And they're supposed to be Republicans.
So we got to focus on some of those and get them out of office.
We have to make the rhinos an extinct species and I think we can do that with a leadership like yours.
It's reptroynelsnels.house.gov that is n-e-h-l-s n-e-h-l-s.house.gov Last thing, you sent me a tweet concerning Mayor Bowser, the Swamp's Mayor, who has issues with illegal immigrants being bused to D.C.
I guess they're alright if they're in Texas or Arizona, but you can't have them in the swamp, right Troy?
What a crazy loon she is, and if you look at the guy up in New York, and they're complaining about a few busloads.
We're having thousands cross our southern border here in this great state of Texas every day.
7,000, 8,000, 10,000, and they're going to complain about a few busloads?
I applaud the governor here in Texas and Arizona sending buses up there, but they're not sending enough.
Matter of fact, I think, Seb, you and I should sponsor a bus, right?
Oh!
Let's sponsor a bus and get more buses up to these cities.
Let's send these buses to all these mayors with these sanctuary cities.
We're a welcoming city.
Well, good enough.
Let's send them right up the runway.
Congressman, you make a donation to the Help Ukraine Fund and I will split a bus sponsorship to bring some of those illegals to D.C.
Do we have a deal?
That's right.
And as a matter of fact, you and I should get on that bus and convince them that they really need to.
The Democrats don't like them.
They're going to destroy their lives.
I love it.
And vote Republican, right?
I love it.
Let's do it.
All right.
Meantime, got to mention the book is The Big Fraud.
The Big Fraud.
Get it right now.
We need more men who are citizen politicians, not politician citizens.
Congressman Troy Nels, God bless.
Keep doing what you do.
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We should definitely do something.
We should definitely do something.
Okay.
Oh good, can you play it for me?
Alright, so just save that in an evergreen where you can access it.
Mar-a-Lago didn't faze President Trump at all.
So that he can have it available all the time, John.
Okay.
Oh, good.
all right
okay
I can't believe he's going to prison.
That's nuts.
He must have been so over the limit.
I don't remember where he was busted.
Oh.
Oh my gosh!
Wow.
Preferences, Jeff?
Okay.
How about if we started a movement to sponsor buses?
Wouldn't that be funny?
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
Thank you.
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First up, Eager, eager on the keyboard was Don in Los Angeles.
It's been far too long, my friend.
Dr. G, you're a hard guy to get through to.
The rolling thunder of Radio Free America.
How's it been?
How are you doing, my friend?
I'm doing great.
I'm sorry to hear you're going under the knife, but pish-tush, it'll be nothing.
We'll be back in action in no time.
Feel sorry for the scalpel, all right?
Feel sorry for the scalpel.
Although it's freaky.
I'm having a procedure.
I met the surgeon.
I'm impressed with the guy.
It's just a minor elective surgery.
I'll be under for about two hours.
And he's using a robot.
It's keyhole robot surgery.
I feel like I'm in an episode of Star Trek, Don.
No, yeah, it's more like Minority Report or Blade Runner.
No pun intended.
All right, what's your topic?
What's your question or comment?
Well, real quick.
Uh, before I get to it, I just mentioned you had Rick Prado on the other day.
Yes!
Great interview.
Dr. G, he's the guy you should, you should check out with, get in touch with him and have him set you up with a real hardcore, no nonsense, no BS martial arts school.
You know, the thought of you going doing taekwondo is kind of just garden variety, you know.
I have, you know, I've been toying, we've discussed this.
I haven't settled because I enjoy judo.
When I recover from this surgery, which will take a while, I think I might have to make a commitment.
What would your preference be?
Because I'm open to all of them, but I love grappling, I love groundwork.
If it were your suggestion, which martial art should it be, Don?
Well, what I'd like to see you do is kind of like, that's kind of why I sent you those Don Draeger books.
Yes.
You need like what I would call a Budokan style school where you have many arts under one roof.
Right.
Like Judo, Karate, Jiu Jitsu, Kendo especially.
That opens your door to the weapon style.
Yes.
Where do you stand on the Brazilian arts?
Oh, it's great, it's just it's very specialized.
It's basically made for one-on-one in a ring with no weapons on one opponent.
In a real fight, the commonality in a lot of different arts around the world that are really serious, it's like in a real fight you have to assume you're going to be fighting more than one opponent, assume minimum of three, and assume some kind of weapons are going to be present.
And that changes your whole mentality.
The Brazilian stuff is great, but they're like very specialized So if there's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, they're kind of like 4 and 5.
You want to get like 1, 2, 3 to get you there.
But it's great stuff.
I mean, but yeah, I would have him, because again, with a man of your intellectual background, you also need something that's going to involve your mind.
And you can go as dive, because again, Don Drager was, he created an academic discipline, hoplology.
Yes.
You know, he was an ex-marine.
mean this guy is just hell on wheels and something like that needs to like engage your mind plus the Japanese I mean I come from like Filipino Indonesian Jeet Kune Do stuff like that but the Japanese I got to give it to them they're organized the gear that's like it's a complete philosophy I I mean, it's, you know, the art of Bushido is such a full philosophy.
God bless you, Don.
Let me ruminate and then get back to you as soon as I'm recovered.
I love the idea, though I think you may have convinced me.
Phil in Philly, line two.
Welcome, Phil.
Hey, Dr. G. Always good to talk to you.
I just want to let you know, I mean, you know, not everybody has the silver tongue or the ways and means to run for office, but what we're doing in Philly, everybody can do something.
We're doing what we call Pop Pop Squad, and it's just a few of us grandpops that are going to do like a little foot patrol around our grandkids and kids' school in the morning, noon.
I mean, if we see something, we're going to say something.
It's not political.
It's not about the Second Amendment.
It's just about making sure our kids are safe where they should be the safest during the day.
The Pop Pop Squad?
Is that what you're calling it, Phil?
Well, I mean, we even have like a little website we made.
And like I said, it's not political.
It's just like, hey, we can inspire people around the country just to see something, say something.
But, you know, our motto is like, if there's no time to say something, it's better one pop pop than any one child.
See what I'm saying?
Absolutely.
I couldn't agree more.
I love it.
Everybody, every man needs to take responsibility and give back to the community and be the first line of defence.
It's been far too long, Phil.
God bless you.
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And to explain what they're doing in Times Square with a rather provocative but factual billboard is none other than the Chief Communications Officer for the JCN.
It is Elaine Parker.
Elaine, welcome back to America First.
Hey Sebastian, thanks for having me.
Alright, so I'm old school.
I like the idea of going to Times Square and just putting it in people's faces.
Let's pull that billboard up there.
Let's show the images that you're using.
Pinocchio Joe is the label and it lists...
Very simply, four big lies and demands that he stop lying to small businesses.
Number one, no new taxes.
Number two, no IRS audit.
Number three, no recession.
And number four, no inflation.
Let's start with the first one.
We have been told that, oh don't worry, don't worry Elaine, no new taxes.
We're just going to print money and spend it like there's no tomorrow.
But no new taxes!
Can you explain how the Inflation Reduction Act really isn't what it says it is.
Yeah, it really is an inflation reduction in name only because it is by far not going to reduce inflation.
And it's also going to raise taxes on the very people that President Biden continues or impact people on the very people that President Biden continues to say are not going to be impacted by anything.
And it breaks the cardinal rule of never raising taxes during a recession, but it also breaks his promises to not raise taxes on anyone making under $400,000 and any small business owners.
And the way that it raises taxes on people who make under $400,000 is that 15% corporate tax.
Now, Sebastian, I don't have to tell you this, but corporations don't pay taxes.
They collect taxes.
And they pass any taxes on to consumers.
So I go back to the cardinal rule.
Can I just break that down?
Because people need to be very clear on this.
If you increase the cost of a business doing business, well, they just pass it on.
Then they say, okay, the product I'm selling is going to be divided by what the government wants from me.
And there's going to be an incremental increase.
So the idea that you're leveling the playing field, it's just Utterly fallacious!
Absolutely.
And the Joint Committee on Taxation, the JCT report that came out two weeks ago, actually concluded that of the $54 billion that they anticipate collecting that first year on that 15% minimum tax, half of that revenue will impact people who make under $400,000.
And that's in the first year.
will impact people who make under $400,000.
And that's in the first year.
By year 10, that percentage grows to two thirds.
So it does impact people who make under $400,000.
Those taxes roll downhill, and they roll downhill to the little guy, the consumer.
You and me and all of your listeners are going to end up paying more.
And that's why the cardinal rule is, don't raise taxes during a recession, because we're already hurting right now.
All right, the second one, the one that really is so indicative of just the authoritarian manner of these people, not just an increase in IRS agents, a more than doubling of the IRS agents.
We're supposed to believe that this is some kind of apolitical measure.
And we're told by people like Jeff Manchin that, oh, don't worry about it.
If you're earning less than, you know, 400,000, they're not coming after you.
Do you believe any of that, Elaine?
Well, I don't have to believe it.
I mean, Joe Manchin and every Democratic senator voted no against an amendment that was put forth that absolutely would have codified the IRS will not audit anyone who makes under $400,000.
So all you have to do is believe what all the Democratic senators voted for, and that was not to protect that group of people.
Yeah, it's absolutely outrageous.
All right, the last two lies.
Let's put the billboard up again.
This is what you can see if you're in Times Square today.
We've got recession and inflation.
Talk to us about how we're going to beat, we're going to beat a recession and we're going to beat an inflation by printing and spending more money.
When has that ever happened, Elaine?
It just isn't going to happen.
And even Joe Manchin believes it's not going to happen.
The Penn Wharton business model that came out as well also said that this would have a zero effect on inflation.
And the reality is, the more money that we recklessly spend and print, the higher inflation is going to go.
We know that.
And people are hurting right now.
Groceries are more expensive.
Gas is more expensive.
We've got supply chain issues.
We've got wage inflation.
As a matter of fact, people are actually taking a pay cut right now because they're taking home less than their paycheck because they have to pay so much for the products that they're buying.
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Actually, it makes sense to send them to New York City, these illegal immigrants, being that people are fleeing from here.
So we have a lot of open houses, whereas the people that are leaving New York City are going to Texas.
Shall we just take it down to Fifth Avenue and they can pick out an apartment on Fifth Avenue?
Yeah, I guess.
They're open.
They're not being used anyways.
But I wanted to ask you, why is the Biden administration Yeah.
giving these people, these illegal immigrants money, and putting them in hotels, and giving them phones, et cetera, et cetera, before taking care of the thousands of, hundreds of homeless veterans that are in this country on the streets.
Why are they being treated and taken care of better than the homeless veterans? - No, it's a question that's been asked many, many times before.
It's such a just question.
Why are there camp, you know, encampments, tents in Washington, D.C., but illegal aliens who haven't been tested for COVID, who lie about their age, lie about being families, integral families, being put up in hotels on your dime?
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Conrad?
Yes, sir.
Welcome.
Did you enjoy our TV chat last week?
Yeah, was I alright?
Oh, fabulous.
Yeah, perfect, perfect, perfect.
It's always fun to get you on TV as well.
Did you see my piece in Real Clear today?
It led Real Clear from the conservative mind.
No, I have the one in front of you about Mark Milley.
What was the Real Clear one about?
Well, I just really blasted the shit out of this Uh, yeah, out of this whole, uh, Palm Beach raid thing.
Oh, good.
All right.
We'll start, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll get back to that second.
and stand by.
Making sense
out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka. - Uh.
Maybe some shenanigans are going on.
You know, I don't think that's... I assume that that's not the case.
Senator, what are you talking about?
It's not the case.
My financial disclosures are public knowledge and have been so.
You are getting amazingly wrong information.
So, I cannot find them.
Our office cannot find them.
Where would they be at their public knowledge?
Where?
It is totally accessible to you if you want it.
For the public?
Is it accessible to the public?
To the public.
Great.
We look forward to reviewing it.
You are totally incorrect.
We look forward to reviewing it.
Dr. Fauci has answered you.
It is public information and he's happy to give it to you if you would ask.
Senator Moran.
What a moron.
That was with a hot mic.
Fauci using the Lord's name in vain and calling a serving Senator Roger Marshall from Kansas a moron when he was asked, why haven't you disclosed the portfolio of your financial investments?
Well, the news yesterday was that he's retiring after 38 years as the director of the National Institutes.
He is leaving government service.
Not only is he taking a $350,000 pension paid for by you and me, he's finally admitted These are Fauci's words.
Maybe the senator has a point.
My financial investments should be much easier to see.
Why did that happen?
Because he admitted on Friday that he has a portfolio of 10.4 million dollars that was not easily accessible to the American electorate or to the people who pay for his...
Salary.
We have this and so much more to discuss with one of your favourite guests, Lord Conrad Black, the author of Donald Trump, A President Like No Other.
Does it look to you that we have... Is Fauci going to disappear quietly into the night after the last three years?
I'm just curious given what we've just found out about the lack of transparency when it comes to his financials, Lord Black.
I have no problem with a man having $10 million.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Good for him.
No, I don't think he's going to disappear so quietly, but not because he himself will be making the noise.
But he does have a lot to answer for.
Now, I'm opposed to an unfair killery of this man.
But with that said, I was one of those, as you know, Sebastian, as we often talked about it on your program, your listeners, your habitual listeners would remember, who was extremely critical of the excessive COVID shutdown.
And, you know, I think Dr. Fauci has to answer very legitimate questions on how such a terribly important public health crisis was seriously mismanaged.
Uh, and if, in fact, as has been suggested, and I absolutely, given the benefit of the doubt, as you do any accused or suspected person, unless there's proof to, you know, to, against, you know, his contentions, That he didn't have anything to do with subsidizing the enhancement of function, viral experiments in Wuhan and so forth, and he had nothing to do with that.
I mean, that's what he says, but there is a real question about that, and I think we have to get to the bottom of it.
And he can't just suddenly, after 38 years, say, well, you know, the heat's up, I don't like the sound of the music, I'm leaving, and you won't hear a word from me again.
That's not going to happen.
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens after November, but let's get to the big story that you've just written a piece on at the American Mind.
The regime has its man.
All it needs now is the crime.
Lord Black, I opened the show an hour ago with the stunning news from John Solomon.
He accessed documents from the archives that the Biden White House back in April worked with the DOJ, with the FBI, to use the documents President Trump had already surrendered as a pretext for a grand jury investigation that would lead to the raid on his home.
And we now know that back then, I find this mind boggling.
But we have on record Biden saying he retracts his predecessors' executive privilege defense for any of those documents.
The mind boggles.
This is banana republic territory, is it not?
No, this is dictatorship.
I mean, this is just, this is dictatorship.
It's totalitarian, or at least autocratic rule, completely outside the Constitution.
It's lawless, illegal behavior, and it is indicative, I'm afraid, of just how frenzied and hysterical the anti-Trump establishment in both parties, unfortunately there's some Republicans in that group, are now that they realize that That he hasn't been banished to what our ancestors used to call the Oubliette.
It's just, you know, in the memory hole.
The memory hole.
Yes, exactly.
A nether region in the past and, you know, a dreadful meteor that has passed by.
And he is, in fact, undoubtedly the favored candidate to be elected at the next presidential election.
And this so horrifies them that whatever restraints, and I didn't recognize very many of them, that they might have had about illegally manipulating the prosecutorial apparatus, the investigative apparatus, and even the senior ranks of the intelligence agencies to persecute and derail
Trump and the Trump phenomenon, which clearly is supported by at least 40% of the people, whatever restraints they may have had have been thrown to the proverbial winds, and they're now down to just an outright perversion of the legal apparatus in order to try and stop Trump from getting successfully to the next presidential election day.
See, for me, and I'm not a lawyer, and I admit that up front, but the idea that you retroactively, ex post facto, just strip a president of his right to do something he did in office... It's completely illegal.
I mean, I am a lawyer.
God help anyone who acts on the basis of my legal advice, but technically I am a lawyer.
But I haven't practiced for 50 years, and I did win the cases I had.
I only had two, and I won them both.
But the fact is, it is completely illegal.
He has no right to do anything of the kind.
I mean, because what next?
As somebody... I mean, this would affect you.
The only example I could come up with extemporaneously at the top of the hour was, what, is he going to suddenly rescind the pardons President Trump authorized as Commander-in-Chief, as the Chief Executive?
I mean... Well, and then why not rescind the 2016 election?
Right!
He was the President.
You know, like Stalin did.
All of a sudden, people vanished from the photograph.
Is this not a cosmic-level scandal?
In comparison to Watergate, for example, they lied.
Watergate was a lot of nonsense.
It wasn't even a burglary.
No one was hurt.
Nothing was stolen.
There was no property damage.
They picked a lot.
I mean, for God's sakes, it wasn't anything.
But for 13 days we have been told the White House knew nothing of it, and now we have the... No sane person believed a word of that.
The idea that the FBI would replicate the invasion of D-Day at the former president's house, and the incumbent president wouldn't be consulted beforehand?
No person with an IQ above double figures could believe that.
But it seems as if there are nary any repercussions for this administration.
I mean, John Solomon's written the piece.
We've covered it.
Hannity had John on last night.
But the idea that it was the President of the United States retroactively rescinding the executive privilege of his predecessor... Shouldn't normal people in the press be up in arms?
They should, and it is again a critique of the rabid partisanship and unprofessionalism and dishonesty of the morally bankrupt national political media, about 90% of it.
But with that said, I think it's starting.
I think where they've really misjudged this one is.
Trump has the natural advantage.
They can't go on with their nonsense of the walls are closing in on us.
You know, we got heard by, say, by television commentators who are now unemployed.
But they can't do that.
Trump is the one saying, let's open it up.
Let's get this affidavit out there.
Let's bring it out.
He is actually on the same side as the media against the government, against the Democrats.
And you're getting these Law professors who are halfway fair-minded, like Jonathan Turley, for example, seems like a very nice gentleman, a learned lawyer.
I don't always agree with him, and he's, I think, politically now admired Trump's, but he's clearly a capable legal accommodator, and a civilized person.
And he says he has real misgivings about this, and you're starting to get that in a way that will Develop and build up an independent body of potential voters, citizens, just viewers, people who aren't polarized between Trump and Trump 8, and are sort of in the middle saying, well, wait a minute here, this doesn't seem right to us.
And the Democrats haven't had to deal with that before.
They polarized everything, and they held at least half and maybe slightly more than half of the voters doing that, but I don't think that they can't do it on this issue.
We're posting the article right now, FBI goes rogue.
Stay with us for much more from Lord Conrad Black.
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How long have you been riding for Claremont? - What?
Well, intermittently for years.
I did a review of a recent book about President Truman a couple of months ago.
They ask me from time to time, and I'm always happy to.
I like Claremont.
I think they do a fabulous job.
Oh, fabulous.
I love the Claremont Review of Books.
It was the antidote to the New York Review of Books, which had its moments, but politically it was utterly hopeless.
All right, I'm posting the piece right now.
And then let's continue on that vein for a little bit.
And then let's transition to the Mark Milley piece.
Sure.
Yes, send it to Casio.
And then CC Randy, Randy.
Andy, yeah.
I just, I know I live in a world of reason, but, and I know the left doesn't, but I just do not see how this doesn't boomerang back on them, Conrad.
I think it does.
I think it does.
I think it's starting to now.
You don't get that welling up where they generate this hostility like they did in the Russia-Trump thing, where you had, for a year and a half, you had a majority of the people believing there was something dead under the floorboards.
They just didn't get it.
They didn't see what... I mean, the idea of a president of the U.S.
being an intelligence asset of another country... I mean, that's another planet!
I mean, it's insane!
But nobody has retracted it and nobody's apologized.
Of course not, but I think the country recognizes that it was all bunk for me to Z.
Here, they came out of the starting gate, and they didn't have opinion behind them.
The Trump-hating media started out trying to stir it up, that there was clearly where there's smoke, there's fire, and no one's above the law, and trying to get the whole thing going, that he was up to some frightful skullduggery.
But that collapsed after two days, and I think now the majority would say, well, you know, I'm not taking against Trump on this one.
He may have done something or not, but it's up to them to prove it, and so far they haven't proved anything, and it doesn't look good.
I think that's where they are.
And the fact that they're hiding the affidavit.
The fact that they're hiding the affidavit is incredible.
Well, the fact that the media and Trump are on the same side saying, release it, and the government's saying no, and all you get is the feeble little twerp of an attorney general, and that smug slacker of an FBI director.
He's saying, well, it's an investigation in progress.
We can't comment.
I mean, that's it.
We just smear the hell out of somebody.
Re-enact D-Day at his house.
You know, 19 months have gone by since he left the White House, but all of a sudden we're terribly concerned about some documents he took, even though he had a perfect right to declassify them.
But it's under investigation, so we can't compromise.
Did you see the piece by John Solomon last night?
I did, I did.
I mean, I don't know him at all personally, but I think he's a first class.
Solid.
He's a weekly guest like you are.
He's a real man.
He carried water on both shoulders during the Russian collusion.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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I have to share with you, this is Peter Stroke, formerly at the top of the FBI.
Now he is a CNN contributor who has a certain take on the Mar-a-Lago raid, which I am calling a state-sanctioned burglary.
Cut five, play cut.
So I don't want to hear that this is some sort of one-sided Department of Justice or FBI who only investigates Republicans.
That's nonsense.
As to a statement that there's no indication that former President Trump had been asked, that's complete baloney.
We know that attorneys and agents of the former president, going back into last year, were trying to recover the boxes of documents that he stole from the White House, saying, these are records, you are not allowed to have them, we need them back.
President Trump stole the records and the FBI is not partisan.
As a historian, let's talk about current history, Lord Black.
I'm trying to think in the last five years, has any prominent Democrat been treated like Paul Manafort, Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro or General Mike Flynn?
I'm trying to think of one.
Of course not.
I mean, of course not.
I mean, the fact is, I believe there's quite enough evidence now to satisfy any reasonable person.
But what is going on is a straight manipulation of the prosecutorial and investigative apparatus of the country to persecute and politically destroy Donald Trump.
Because he ran against the political establishment, as we all know he ran as vigorously against the Bushes as he did against the Obamas and the Clintons.
And because he said that he thought the leadership of both parties had failed the country, which is the right of any person to say if that's what they think.
And he put it out there and ran and was elected.
So the answer to him has not come in the conventional sportsmanlike way of fighting out fair elections and putting out country ideas and allowing the people to decide what we do.
You've had an avalanche of money from Wall Street and Silicon Valley and Hollywood and so forth.
A tremendous tidal wave of biased and misleading political coverage in the national political media.
Uh, the manipulation of the FBI, parts of the Justice Department, and parts of the senior intelligence agencies to, illegally, to persecute this man.
And Strzok, who you just put on the recording of, was part of it.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, he was the one who told us, you know, we have an insurance policy, we can almost bring up this Russian nonsense and sandbag him with that.
I mean, how dare he become so self-righteous in the recording you just put on about how it was absolute nonsense that there was any possible complaint of partisanship in the FBI?
Horowitz himself said that Comey had committed 17 distinct illegalities.
For all the bunk that he's thrown at J. Edgar Hoover, who was the head of the agency and its predecessor for 47 years, from President Harding to President Nixon, he never intervened in a presidential election.
He never did anything like this.
Do you think, given what we've witnessed in the last five years, do you think there is an invidious, covert tactic that they will be able to use to stop President Trump from running?
Well, there certainly is the tactic, and they are using it now, but I don't think it's going to work.
I think this time it was such an amateur night.
It was so implausible.
It was so heavy-handed, and they did it in a way, as we were talking about earlier, where this time Trump is allied with the media, and they're all saying the same thing.
On this one, he's saying the same thing that Wolf Blitzer is, if you can imagine.
Release it, put it out there.
We want to see the affidavit.
Let's look at it.
Total transparency.
They're not going to be able to snow the public when they and Trump are saying the same thing.
Let's let it all hang out here.
Your latest piece for the Epoch Times talks about what has to happen after a Trump victory and a second term begins.
Will we be able to remove political correctness from inside the Department of Defense?
Give a little praise to our listeners.
Yeah, well, I believe certainly, as you know, the Commander-in-Chief can do what he wants in that area.
And I think President Trump has, in effect, given notice that that he feels he was poor and the country were poorly served by the senior military officers for some time in the past under administrations of both parties.
I mean, he deluged them with money to bring the armed forces up to date, and they didn't do anything about hypersonic weapons.
We're playing catch-up now with the Russians and the Chinese, and then the chairman of the Joint Office of Staff, Mark Milley, the general who has more ribbons on his tunic than Yeah.
five-star generals George Marshall, Dwight Eisenhower, and Douglas MacArthur combined, all of whom did some real fighting and led us to the unconditional surrender of our enemies.
He had the opportunity to do that, and his only comment after the fact is it's a Sputnik moment.
Well, where the hell was he?
And, you know, we don't have, at this point, an adequate defense for the Nimitz-class carriers, which are the core of projecting Americans for us.
Now, it's being developed, but meanwhile, we're behind, and those ships would be vulnerable.
I mean, what are these generals and admirals doing with all these scores of billions of dollars Yeah, I very much enjoy your military analysis on the podcast you co-hosted, Scholars and Sense, with Victor Davis Hanson and also Bill Bennett.
Also the books you have to check out.
The most recent one is A President Like No Other.
Donald J Trump and the restoring of America and then more presidential histories FDR champion of freedom and then of course there is the one about Nixon a life in full Richard M Nixon we have to write the current the history of the present right now because every single day Seems to bring new, historic, shocking events.
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Heard of him, yeah, but I don't know anything about him.
Did you see the news?
It kind of came out of the blue.
Leonard Leo, who actually attends the church I attend... I know who he is, Leonard Leo, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He runs something called the Marble Freedom Trust, a conservative not-for-profit.
Well, he helps the judges, the candidates for the bench.
But this other foundation he has, this is separate from the Federalist Society, has just had $1.6 billion donated by Barry Seide for the midterm elections.
That's quite a bit of change.
$1.6 billion?
Good grief!
Well, is this basically all going to help re-elect Trump?
Just the details, I'm reading from Fox News, the details are just connected to the midterm elections and beyond.
But that is a record donation of 1.6 billion.
I haven't seen anything of the like.
But that's all going to support Republicans, isn't it?
Yes, yes.
I'm just wondering if you knew of this person.
Can you imagine?
This is what Karl Marx warned us about, you know, people buying elections.
He was scandalized when Benjamin Harrison received a donation of $5,000 from J.P.
Morgan.
What do you think of him?
Right, right.
I have to find out more about this Barry side.
I've heard of him, but I wouldn't have been able to tell you much about him.
Must be a rather successful chap.
Well, he's one of us.
Yeah, there you go.
That's the reason.
All right, that was superb.
Thank you so much.
These are trying times, trying times.
Yeah, well, we'll get through them.
As General De Gaulle said, we're crossing the desert.
We need statesmen like him and Churchill and Maggie back.
That's what we really need.
Indeed we do.
I mean, you know what drives me nuts is this little twit, Meechum, comparing Biden to FDR.
I mean, I probably have more enthusiasm for FDR than you do, but he was a great leader.
Or you have that other presidential historian, what's his name, saying President Trump is working for the Russians.
Beschloss.
Beschloss!
A whole, what, 40 years of work just thrown in the garbage can because you're an idiot now and you hate Trump?
Yeah, I agree.
Absurd.
Anyway, look, we shall overcome.
We march on.
We march on.
God bless.
Thank you, Conrad.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
What's a good title for that?
that.
Come up with some suggestions.
Thank you.
How Mar-a-Lago boomerangs back.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah.
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Line 1, Art in Colorado.
Welcome, Art.
Hello, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
I've been thinking and I've got an idea about, you know, how after the Republicans and their hubris raided the Watergate, everything after that's been called something gate.
Yes.
Like spy gate.
I'm thinking Because the Democrats have overstepped their bounds greatly, we should start calling things a lago.
Russia lago.
I like it.
We'd have to have somebody big propagate that, or maybe President Trump himself.
But I like the way you think.
That's a very, very nice way of repackaging and throwing it back on them, like they tried with fake news as an insult to conservative media, and President Trump just I think this whole idea of woke-ism is really socialism.
That's genius.
Stay on the line, Art.
Let's get Art a signed copy of Why We Fight, Defeating America's Enemies with No Apologies.
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It's got a line to Marshall in Orlando.
Marshall, welcome to America First.
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Appreciate your show a lot.
I think this whole idea of wokeism is really socialism.
Yeah.
They got a name for it.
They call it woke, but it's a made-up term that it was a big mystery for a long time.
And Newsmax even had to do a show on it to basically say that it was activist.
No, I completely agree.
I mean, all of this is from the left, it's just a repackaging.
Absolutely right, Marshall.
Yeah, they're, you know, slipping us to Greenweenie.
It's like dumping steel on the market.
When these big spending programs go through, it undermines the free enterprise system.
Of course, and it propagates inflation!
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
This is the very simple question somebody asked many, many moons ago.
What would you do differently if you're running the country, if your explicit goal was to destroy America?
Is there anything you would do differently?
And the answer to that is no.
Open the borders.
Spend like there's no consequences to your spending.
Absolutely.
Destroy the industries that are the lifeblood of America, such as energy.
We've seen, what is it, Ford have decided that they're going to fire 3,000 workers because they're shifting to electric vehicles.
That's how you destroy America.
You're absolutely right.
Thank you, Marshall.
Let's go to line four.
Let's go to Mike in Detroit.
Mike, welcome to America First.
Oh yeah, Dr. Cork, I wonder if you had been following the Whitmer trial?
Yes.
Well, you know, they just convicted.
They shopped for a judge, which, you know, tells you a lot about what's happening to our judicial system, to convict two people that had already been let off, essentially by a jury, because of the incredible entrapment conspiracy of the FBI, where the informants and FBI agents outnumbered the targets, and the informants where the informants and FBI agents outnumbered the targets, and the informants had criminal histories that were They were ten times worse than the targets, and the FBI behaved even worse.
But, you know, all in all, and, you know, Harris and Biden used this against Trump, and there's no doubt Whitmer was involved in the conspiracy and played the victim and so on.
Well, I don't know if there's any evidence of that yet, but there's this amazing piece by somebody called Eric who I think works for us.
Here's the latest thing.
Stephen DiAntonio, who ran, ran the Michigan investigation of the fake FBI plot against Whitmer, Guess where he's now, Mike?
He runs the Washington field office.
He was promoted up after that disaster.
And next, what?
Probably director of the FBI for Biden.
That's the way they like their police.
They like them as political attack dogs.
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Yeah.
Okay, good, because I texted him.
Yeah, cool.
All right, so can I talk to her offline?
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Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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So, do you remember Just, what, 10 months ago we had a caller, I think it was Phil from Philly, who said we need to recognize the treachery that occurred in Afghanistan.
How we surrendered and how 13 marines, a corpsman and an army sergeant were murdered on Biden's watch because of what we did when we ran out of that country and then we designed a flag that you can buy.
It's still available at our store to remember those who were killed because of the decisions of this president.
It says Americans Abandoned in Afghanistan You Are Not A Forgotten.
It has 13 stars for the 13 servicemen and women who were killed.
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But just a few days ago, a friend of mine, Terry, you know who you are, sent me news of an amazing initiative.
I'm just going to put up a photograph of a picture she took yesterday that's related to this initiative of some men and women on horseback.
And we have the person who is driving the initiative, Cammie Irwin, right now, who's on the road, who's going to join us.
Cammie, what is U.S.
13, Honor the Fallen?
Will you tell us what this idea is and how you're going to honor the 13?
Yes, thanks for having me.
That picture came to life so quickly.
It was just very impressive.
But U.S.
13 stands for United I held it as a tribute here in Austin, Texas last year.
We had 13 votes, 13 flags at 1300.
The community here in Austin came together to support my dream of doing this, that hopefully one day any one of those families would see that people care, that people are so disheartened by what happened to our troops and From there, it just started to spread on social media and it started getting back to those families and I had no idea that would happen that soon.
I had some of the families sending me thank you cards, which was totally unnecessary.
I did that because I wanted them to know how much we care.
And it's now, I've traveled over the last few months, met some of the families, we have social media relationships, and we are now holding another tribute to honor the sacrifice that those 13 gave up for this country.
And it has been one of the saddest, emotional, humbling journeys I've ever began in my life.
So let's put that picture up.
That photograph was taken by my friend Terry, who's a professional photographer, and it is being delivered.
Thirteen copies of that photograph with the American flag and those cowboys and cowgirls is being given to each of the families that lost a service member.
Man, this is hard.
Let's just put up the announcement of your event.
Saturday, this Saturday, this is Vincent's on the lake in Austin, Texas.
Show the support for the 13 American heroes who were tragically lost in Afghanistan on August 26.
There will be 13 boats with 13 flags at 1300.
There will be 13 boats with 13 flags at 1300.
There will be a viewing to pay tribute of those who fell.
There will be live music, food raffle, veteran booths.
Why are you doing this?
Who are you?
What is your connection to these people?
What made you do this, Cami?
You know, I just, I always think my parents, I have really great parents.
They've always taught me that the reason you have your freedom is because of the brave men and women that choose to serve this country.
It's, it was something I just woke up and decided we needed to do.
We need to be better as a country.
We need to appreciate what is done for this country because they never want credit for it.
And these families getting to know them, you know, it has just been the most devastating year.
This has all been so covered up.
My US 13 logo.
is something that people always ask me about and I love that because a lot of people don't know what happened and our media won't acknowledge that and so I think well I have one of the hats here the US 13 logo now I sell it off my head because once I can tell people about it they're like oh my gosh I had no idea and it just keeps happening and We will have four of the Gold Star families coming into Austin.
Some of the other ones are going to Arlington, some are staying in California, but this month especially has been one of the roughest months leading up to that special day.
All right, so stay on the line.
I want to talk to you in the break, but in the meantime, I want to recognize you for what you are doing.
It's us13.org, us13.org, and I need you to connect us with any of the family members who are prepared to come on our show and talk about the people they lost and why we have to remember them.
In the meantime, Put up the photograph of the horses.
The 13.
Eric, put up the photograph.
Remove the Chiron.
Lose the Chiron.
And then let's put up the announcement for the event.
This Saturday at 1300 at 1 p.m.
If you're in Austin, Texas, go to Vincent's on the Lake.
Let's just remember those who we didn't have to lose.
God bless you, Cammie.
Stay on the line.
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Jeff, I don't know if I'm having a senior moment, a Biden moment.
What is Eric Swalwell most famous for?
It's not here.
Oh, Eric, thank you, yes.
Having an affair with a Chinese intelligence officer.
So he probably shouldn't be lecturing us on classified information, but that's who the left are.
This is MSNBC and Eric Fangfang Swalwell Cutfor.
The reason that they're marked top secret means that it often relates to force protection for our troops.
So information about where our troops are that we would not want anyone to know because it could put them in harm's way.
It could relate to our nuclear posture or the nuclear posture of our adversaries.
It could relate to the technical means that we use to collect information to protect our troops and to protect Americans or the work that we're doing to combat terrorism.
And so 300 pages, you know, just, you know, a basement stairway away in an open beach house is not where you would want that information, especially in the hands of somebody who President Biden deemed should not even be able to receive classified information.
Open beach house. - Yes.
Open beach?
You mean Mar-a-Lago that's guarded by the Secret Service?
I wonder why you know so much about secret information.
Is that the briefing you gave to Fang Fang?
Unbelievable!
Oh, and he still can't deny he had sex with a Chinese intelligence officer.
Let's go to line five.
Annabelle, California.
Welcome to America First.
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
I just quickly want to say that I assure I speak for everybody listening.
I pray for your successful surgery and complete the quick recovery.
I'm a little worked up after Kami.
That was hard to listen to.
It was hard for me.
I mean, it was hard for me.
God bless that we have Americans like Kami out there.
That's very kind.
Your prayers are appreciated.
I go under the knife at 7.30 Eastern Time in the morning, Thursday, for about two hours.
I hate general anesthetic.
It's the only thing that gives me the heebie-jeebies, but your prayers are appreciated, so thank you very much, Annabelle.
Anything else you'd like to share with us?
Oh, yes.
That's why I called.
If you'd be kind enough to let me.
I have an idea for a t-shirt, but it's much more than that.
Go ahead.
I'm going to talk fast.
I don't mean to be rude.
It's for time.
I used to cry.
Because it was easier to tap into than tapping into my anger every time President Obama, and it was constant, apologized for America.
You know, President Trump heard, felt that anguish.
That's why I voted for him.
Democrats literally, you know this, believe America is so despicable from its onset.
We got 30 seconds.
Alright, what I want to have the t-shirt, and it really has to be, I want to have America across the top, and I want to underneath it say, no apology needed.
Oh, oh my gosh.
God bless you, Annabelle.
Yes, yes.
That is happening.
I'm going to commit to that right now.
America with the stars and stripes, in the colors of the stars and stripes.
Stay on the line, Annabelle.
We have to send you something.
What a genius.
What a lovely person.
What a princess.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Let me say it again.
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Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
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What is a mule?
This is not grandma out walking her dog.
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They are interested in one thing, that's money.
And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
This is organized crime.
Do you have video evidence?
Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
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Senator McConnell is weighing in on who he thinks should be FBI Director.
Take a listen to this.
Yeah, actually I have spoken with the president about it.
I recommended Merrick Garland.
Might surprise some people.
Yeah, it may surprise people, but he has a deep background in criminal law.
He was the prosecutor in the Oklahoma City bombing case.
And I think it would make it clear that President Trump will continue the tradition at the FBI of having an apolitical professional.
How did that work out?
Yes indeed, that's Mitch McConnell saying, that guy Merrick Garland we didn't want to have in Supreme Court, who's now the Attorney General, he should be the Director of the FBI because he's so neutral, so unbiased.
I bet our next guest here on America First 101 has a...
A certain reaction to that expectation from a man who allegedly leads the Senate for the GOP.
I don't know how to introduce him.
There's so many things to say about him.
He's a patriot.
But, Mr. G, what did you say about this individual?
Oh, yes.
That he is our most energetic guest host.
How is that possible?
Out of the amazing choices we have?
Well, Doug Collins, former Congressman, you are allegedly the most energetic guest host of America First!
Hey, when you get in that chair, you gotta be energetic.
That's what it is.
That is it.
Hey, you know, that last comment from Mitch McConnell reminds me of growing up on my granddaddy's dairy farm, and we saw a lot of that out in the pasture, and typically you avoided it because that's all that was, is what he just gave.
That's a bunch of bull.
Alright, so we have an hour with you.
We're gonna go through all the big topics of the day.
Gotta start with Mar-a-Lago, but...
Well, let me start there, and then we can talk about the establishment GOP's response to it.
You are one of our newest members here at Salem.
You've got to follow this man, Doug Collins' podcast.
He is a former military chaplain, an Iraq veteran, U.S.
congressman, and just an all-around good guy.
There's a reason.
There's a reason that I invite him to guest host this show, because he gets it.
He gets America first.
But let's start with the GOP reaction.
Yesterday, on Monday, I asked my producer, Mr. G, best radio producer on the planet, find me all the things that the leader of the Republicans in the Senate have said about Mar-a-Lago.
Do you know what he found, Doug?
Probably not much.
Nothing.
There was one press conference when he was in his home state and somebody asked him about his reaction.
He said, I'm here to talk about the flood.
I'm not here to talk about Mar-a-Lago.
This is the first time in history that the FBI has been used against a former president, not only to raid his home, but to accuse him of all kinds of egregious things.
Where's the GOP?
You're not in Congress anymore, so tell us what you think.
Well, it's frustrating, because again, no matter what side you fall on this, I mean, this is just so many questions, and none of the questions get better, none of the reasoning gets better, none of the logic gets better, none of the You know, they'll throw in when they get pressed too much, they'll say, well, we saw something on video.
Well, it was all still there.
They were still negotiating.
There was, I mean, there's just so much wrong with this.
I mean, optically, politically.
But I will say this, if they were intending to strengthen Donald Trump, that's exactly what they did.
Because for now, for all of the people who may have doubted Donald Trump, for whatever reason, you may have doubted what you, I, or others have said about what happened in the last five or six years at DOJ.
There is now the veil has been turned down.
The veil has been torn.
And they see that, wait, this doesn't add up.
You know, these papers have been gone for coming up on a year and a half, 18 to 20 months here.
I mean, and now you're having to go in with 30 agents who, I guess, had nothing better to do to find, you know, 12 or 15 boxes, whatever the box number is, on things that you knew were there, had been negotiating with.
This is just, again, it's frustrating from the perspective of, at least from the leader, maybe have said, look, this is concerning.
This is an election year issue.
Why are we doing this?
Nothing.
I think that presents more of a problem.
The American people get it.
The American people have responded saying, hey, this don't add up.
And, you know, again, I think when Andrew Cuomo, again, going back to a Democrat, Andrew Cuomo said when it first happened, if this is only about pieces of paper, Then there'll be a big problem.
Well, guess what?
It seems to be at this point still about pieces of paper.
Yeah, so here's why it gets really important, and it's not just about, you know, one man who has the title of, you know, minority leader.
He just said, he literally just said two days ago, that he doesn't know if his party that he leads in the Senate is going to take back the upper house.
He doesn't know because, quote, of the quality of the candidates.
Now there's a couple of ways to interpret that.
Number one is, He's done a crappy job, because as the head of the Senate for the GOP, he's responsible for the quality of the candidates, or he's sending a very backhanded, you know, kind of slap in the face to the candidates that we have chosen, that the American people have chosen, like J.D.
Vance, who are unavowedly America first, and who every single one of them has got the endorsement of his former president.
Which is it?
Is he incompetent because we're told, oh my gosh, this is the master of Supreme Court nominations and we must prostrate ourselves in front of the man who stopped Merrick Garland becoming a U.S.
Supreme Court justice?
Or is he just saying, screw America first?
Which is it, Doug?
At this point, it's an interesting statement.
I'm not sure if he's trying to push himself further away from Donald Trump.
I'm not sure what he's trying to say there.
Again, maybe he's looking at long-term strategists and saying, I want to stay majority leader in the Senate, and if you have a lot of these new ideas and new people come in, I can't do what I used to do.
That may be a little bit of it, Dr. Gordon, as you look ahead.
You're calling me Dr. Gawker, or I'm going to call you Congressman Collins.
Okay, we won't do it.
But I think he may be saying, look, I've got to work with these people.
And these that are coming in are not going to be the easily go along, get along kind of folks.
That may be a projection out of him.
But I think the real problem... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
How is he going to work along with them if he's already insulted them?
Oh, I agree.
The other option is, and what you said was pretty well right, I think him and Rick Scott, if you've noticed, Rick Scott was head of the NRSC this time.
They've not been on the same page as we've seen in the past.
I had to deal with an NRSC that was...
Dominated by Mitch McConnell.
I get what that looks like.
They've not been on the same page.
And so it's been interesting to see how they have went about these candidates.
The problem I have with now is, is this a poorly attempted way to motivate these candidates who may be struggling a little bit in finance or maybe a few points behind in the polls?
Is this his awkward way of saying, hey, you got to work harder to do this?
Or is he just so tone deaf to it that he's saying, realizing he's got to be the one to put money in this.
These are the actual candidates.
This is what you, this is the team you're going to have to go to, to, to the election with.
You better get in there and start helping, or you're going to be the minority leader again.
And Joe Biden will get two years of uninterrupted judges and uninterrupted, uh, you know, legislation coming through that, uh, that he just got rolled on in the last one.
Yeah, I think you're being a little bit too polite because you served in the military and you know, what if you say to your unit, your platoon, hey guys, you know, I don't think we're going to win this battle because I'm just not impressed with the quality of the team.
I mean, does that work for a coach?
Does that work for a platoon leader?
No, you get rid of the platoon leader.
And I think that's the problem right now.
I think this is the problem that Mitch McConnell, for him to say that this late, was completely tone deaf, and I think completely off-putting to those who have elected these representatives to represent the Republican Party going forward.
And I think that's the part that Mitch McConnell, as he has seemingly lost more and more of his will to fight these political battles, that's why I think that there's a change coming.
You may have just saw the first, you know, real I think thought of this process coming forward of getting Mitch McConnell maybe not having the grip on that caucus that he may think he has.
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Doug, I'm going to try one more time, then we're going to move on.
Let's drill down specifically.
I know you're a congressman.
You didn't serve in the Senate.
However, the president's residence was raided by federal police officers with guns.
They demanded from his attorneys, who they forced to stand outside of the building, to switch off the security cameras.
After the raid, the Attorney General said nothing for three days.
And we still don't know why it happened.
We have been given multiple examples of why it happened.
Excuses leaked from the DOJ.
Number one, presidential classified records had to be put back in the archive.
Number two, nuclear secrets were in Mar-a-Lago.
Number three, it's a breach of the Espionage Act.
President Trump is, I don't know, working for the North Koreans or something.
And then we find out From Kash Patel, who is the President's representative to the National Archives, former Deputy Director of National Intelligence, that some of the documents that were seized pertain to the Russia collusion hoax.
So it looks like this is an attempt to cover up the culpability of the FBI and other agencies.
And so I ask you, How does the Senate Minority Leader have nothing to say about this?
Just as a voter, let's forget about your past in the military, in the House.
As an American, how does that happen?
No, Seb, I think it's unacceptable.
But I think it's Mitch McConnell.
I mean, again, you're trying to apply someone outside of his own realm.
Mitch does not get outside his own realm.
He's frustrated Republicans on many occasions.
He's not taken up things.
When I was in Congress, we would send over when we had a Republican majority in the House and the Senate and a Republican president.
This is Mitch McConnell.
Mitch McConnell has shown an animosity toward the former president.
He is actually, you know, in looking at what has happened.
It does not surprise me here.
Mitch McConnell is of a school of thought that if I ignore Donald Trump, he'll go away.
Guess what, Mitch McConnell?
He's not going away.
In fact, he will be back.
He's going to be, at this point, will be the nominee for president in 2024.
If you want to be majority leader of the Senate, it's time for you to acknowledge the fact that the Republicans have elected people that you need to get behind.
And when they want to hear, again, Mitch McConnell may think that Donald Trump did something wrong.
That's fine.
But the way they went about this, the minority leader in the Senate, and he's going to stay minority leader if he keeps this crap up, he's got to actually say, look, Merrick Garland, y'all made a mistake here.
Merrick Garland, by the way, remember Seth, actually said, I didn't know anything about this at first.
And then we find out three days later, he actually approved it.
Okay, which is it?
Did you know it or didn't approve it?
Which one is it?
And I think this is the part people are frustrated with Mitch McConnell.
So look, he should be saying something.
He should have said something then.
He doesn't have to live on it, but he should be saying something.
And finally asking Merrick Garland to come to him and say, okay, look, I want to know why y'all did this.
I want Chris Ray in here, who, by the way, I've called for Chris Ray's resignation for four years, okay?
Chris, before almost he got put in office, Chris, he's never implemented anything that needed to be implemented that should have been, and he's just been a problem ever since.
Good guy, wrong position.
And he needs to be gone.
But why has he not called him in and said, I want to know about this?
It tells me that he believes that this is a separation between him and Donald Trump, that he's going to let Donald Trump fight this battle, let all the other folks fight this battle, and he's going to stay out of it.
And it will come back and bite him in the rear.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you for clarifying that.
Let me just ask you a very simple question.
How does it work?
How does it work?
Because I think you're right.
President Trump is going to run.
That's clear.
If they can't stop him, then he will be the president.
How does a President Trump work with Mitch McConnell?
I think that's what we experienced for four years, the unfortunate part.
I think if Mitch McConnell believes that Donald Trump coming back as president and him being able to do the same old, same old in the Senate, I think those days are over.
Especially if he becomes majority leader.
Now this is the big key here, Seb.
He's got to become majority leader first.
Minority leader in the Senate is basically, I put up a roadblock and can stumble through things, but I can't do anything.
Unlike in the House, it's completely irrelevant.
So if he is a minority leader, he has no position to help anyway.
So he needs to be out, in my opinion right now, actually trying to get the majority.
And he's feeding the mainstream narrative that the candidates are not going to win, the candidates are bad, the candidates are too Trumpian, whatever he wants to say.
If he's feeding that narrative, then I have no sympathy for him.
He must enjoy the minority leader's office because that's exactly where he's going to stay.
Yeah, well I think he might.
I think he's absolutely comfortable with it and that's why he's behaving the way he is.
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Alright, I have vexed him enough.
We are going to talk about other issues, not just the Senate.
Let's talk about a place you used to work, which is the House, Doug Collins.
Yes.
Here's my worry.
I'm super excited, you know, all these MAGA candidates, America's First candidates, the president is 183 for like five now or something insane in terms of his endorsements.
However, you know the mechanics.
You've served inside the building.
It's not enough to flood the zone with new representatives from across the nation.
The question is the leadership, and my conviction is that Kevin McCarthy, not a bad man, but not a strong man, if we crush the Democrats in 76 days, will the leadership of the House reflect America first, or will it be same old, same old, with just a lot of grumbly guys down below in the Freedom Caucus?
That's going to depend on, you know, again, I think a lot of, you know, who gets elected and what these districts, especially from, you know, whether you say the Freedom Caucus or conservatives, there's a lot of frustration among non-Freedom Caucus and Freedom Caucus members about the lack of doing something.
And I think this is where Kevin, Kevin, who I know very well, Kevin is a good guy, as you said, but he's going to have to change leadership styles.
Kevin is a, I think, in a new Congress, especially one that has been so polarized over the last few years, watching Nancy Pelosi wield the gavel of speakership to get exactly what she wants, when she wants it, how she wants it.
I railed against this while I was in Congress for the two years she was Speaker, is that they just break the rules, do whatever they want to do, and just be damned with everything.
Kevin is going to have to come forward as a stronger leader that's willing to put the Democrats in their place, at the same time allowing different rule structures, different things to come forward so that movement of conservatives can get things passed and then let Mitch McConnell deal with them and then show the real problem that we saw so many times different things to come forward so that movement of conservatives can get things passed and He cannot just simply come in and say, okay, we're going to be, and I've heard this before, and it became a joke among the Congress.
Well, we're going to do things differently.
We're going to be the adults.
We've got to do – the American people want to see us act differently.
No, the American people want to see you fight.
The American people want to see you do something, and then if you can't get it done, they know you've done all you can do, then you back up to your secondary position – You don't start at your third position.
And that's the problem that Kevin is gonna have to face.
Kevin likes to make deals, Kevin likes to get along with everybody, which is all good things.
But if he's gonna lead as speaker, if he makes it to the speakership, Then he's going to have a different conference to deal with, and he's going to have to show that leadership.
And that means that he's going to have to go to war with the Democrats in many different ways and use some of the same tactics.
I'm tired of watching Republicans, even while I was there, that didn't use the tactics we were given.
The House can never complain.
Listen to this, Sep.
I don't want to ever hear A majority party in the House of Representatives say they can't get anything done.
Because what that means is, is that they're the ones who can't get it done.
But I've never heard Nancy Pelosi complain about that.
She doesn't complain about it.
She gets everybody in line.
And Republicans, listen up.
You may be the most conservative one there, you may be the most moderate one there, but at the end of the day, you all should be five times better than the worst Democrat on policy, and you better come together and not just sit there and say, we're not going to push conservative issues because that's what America's looking for.
All right, you're an attorney, correct, by training, Doug?
I have been an attorney, yes I have.
All right.
I'm going to be Devil's advocate right now.
Okay.
How old are you, Doug?
56, as of last Tuesday.
Okay, well, happy birthday.
Kevin McCarthy is 57.
Yep.
How many 57-year-olds do you know who change their style of leadership dramatically?
They do to an extent.
Kevin's going to have a hard time doing it.
All right, all right, good, all right.
I'll move on.
But he also wants to be speaker very badly.
Yeah, clearly, clearly.
That's the gear.
But you're right, he has to lead differently and I'm just, you know, not sure a 57 year old changes their spots.
All right, this is the question I have to ask people who come on here, you know, the fighters.
Usually they're in Congress.
You're not, so maybe I'll get a more candid answer.
Are there any normal Democrats left in Washington, D.C.?
Because I look at this party, and they look like they're either all insane, like the squad, or they've all surrendered to the squad, like AOC and Chuck Schumer.
In your time on Capitol Hill, did you meet anybody who wasn't insane and had the testicular fortitude to stand up to the crazies in their party?
There were a few.
Cuellar out of Texas is probably about your only one right now that will go head-to-head.
Jared Golden up in Maine tries.
But again, the bottom line is they do stuff that we don't tolerate.
Nancy Pelosi has made it very clear that you either stick with me and give me the votes I need or I will get rid of you.
And we talk about this.
I'm going to turn this around a little bit.
We talk about Kevin McCarthy being a strong leader.
What would happen if Kevin McCarthy went to a member and said, you're going to be here.
I know you don't want to vote this way, but I got to have 218 votes.
If you don't, I'll make sure you lose next time.
Republicans would lose their crap.
And I've seen it so many times.
It's time for Republicans to tighten up the belt a little bit.
Get a little bit of alligator skin, and yes, you may be the most conservative, or yes, you may be the most moderate.
We'll find votes.
If we have more than 218, we'll decide who can vote no if they want to, and the rest of you, suck it up, baby.
It's time to vote.
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You look at what's happened in the last six years.
You said he's going to be in the White House.
I concur.
But let's look at what they've done.
The Billy Bush tapes, Russia collusion, Mueller probe, Impeachment 1, Impeachment 2, quid pro quo, January 6th Committee, Southern District of New York cases against him and his company and his children.
I know, I knew before the Mar-a-Lago raid, Doug, that they were going to forward criminal referrals, spurious ones, from the January 6th Committee to the Department of Justice.
Now I am 110% sure they will after Mar-a-Lago.
It'll be some BS about, you know, obstruction of an official proceedings or mishandling of classified information or whatever it is.
Do they, they are so demented.
Is there any way they can stop him at this point?
What's your prediction?
I don't think they can within the Republican Party.
Again, they're not focused on the Trump voter.
They're not talking about Omega.
They're not talking about America First.
What they're trying to do is to get to the folks that they think they can influence to say, we don't want to do this again.
And I think that's what they're trying to do.
So everywhere you turn, no matter what is coming up, they're going to continue just the ram page of saying he was not you know what we needed he's not there and again now supposedly these adults that are in the White House now yeah they've done a great job they gave away Afghanistan they've had inflation they've killed our oil and energy people are starting to see that and they're saying wait I'm gonna tell you a quick story I was just out of the country my wife and I took our first vacation in ages ages I was in a No, not Obama.
going back to the airport in Jamaica.
Somebody, the gentleman who was driving said something about the, we said something about the election.
He said, yes, economy's terrible.
He said, he said, the guy you got now, terrible.
He said, I want to go back a couple.
And so I thought he was saying Obama.
Yeah.
He's, I said, so you want to go back to president Obama?
He said, no, not Obama.
I like the other one, Trump.
This is a Jamaican citizen said, I want Trump.
And here, listen to his reason, Seb.
He said, when he was in office, economy was good.
Everybody came here.
Now, terrible.
Biden's awful.
I want Trump.
That is what, I mean, it is amazing what this person, Donald Trump, has around the world to common people.
That's what the elites, the blue checks, whatever you want to call them, they don't like.
They can't stand.
And so they'll keep trying this.
The real fight will become is if he when he runs and he shows every indication he's going to run, he'll get through the Republican primary.
That won't be an issue.
And the real fight will become between September and November of 2024.
And that will be when they try everything they possibly can to keep him from beating.
I personally don't think it's going to be Joe Biden.
But even if it is, you know, we'll see.
But that that's what they're going to really pull out the stops.
But my question is, as a legal professional and a politician, do you think the Democrats have the legal strategy to prevent him from running somehow, from disbarring or disqualifying him?
Not yet.
I don't think... That's not a good answer!
That is not... No, I don't, but again, but when you've got them doing it every day, I mean, it's almost like when we say, no, they don't, but then if they're doing it every day, okay, I can say to this day they don't have it.
But if they continue some kind of, you know, construction and legal structure, they're going to... I've always been a believer of this.
And when I practiced law regularly a while back now, I always said this.
I always told a client that if they believe they've got you, they've got you.
They're not going to wait.
They're not going to hold out.
They're not going to wait.
So this is what I've said.
If you see people who are under investigation for long periods of time, typically what it means is they don't have it.
Right.
And so that's all I'm saying is they right now, they don't have it.
Could they believe that they could get it later?
Because here's their worst fear.
Their worst fear is to bring some charges and get beat in court.
That's their worst fear.
And this Mar-a-Lago issue, there's such, I mean, to me, that is just so poorly drawn up and drawn out that, again, they don't want to lose.
And if they had it, I mean, Seb, think about this.
If they had it, They'd have had it.
They're the ones.
This is the same idiots who told you that, you know, he colluded with the Russians.
The same one, Adam Schiff.
You know, I mean, I don't think the man can breathe without lying.
And, you know, I mean, he still thinks that Russian collusion happened in plain sight.
He sees it.
And then he's concerned about all this other.
So these are the same people are going to try every time.
But somewhere deep in the bowels of Southern District of New York and the other places, undoubtedly they don't have it, or they're not making their case, or they're waiting for something to fall.
If I had a thought they'd have had it, it would have been before now.
The longer this drags out, I think they think they can do it to make people think that he's guilty, and that's the best that they can do right now.
And some people will buy it, most people won't, and they'll just pass on.
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
The fact that it's more than two weeks since the raid, and they still haven't justified the raid, and they're trying to hide the subpoena, the actual affidavit that supports the warrant tells you that they're desperate.
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You needn't have run for public office.
You've proudly, honorably served this nation in uniform.
You're a combat veteran.
Will you explain, because my argument here is, don't just listen to my show three hours a day.
Don't just listen to Doug's podcast.
It's great.
I mean, I love talk radio.
I dearly miss Rush.
I love all my conservative colleagues here at Salem.
But you've got to get engaged.
My argument is run for local office, like my wife did, who hates politics.
Why did you decide, after having served America already, that it was time for you to run for office?
What made you do that, Doug?
Tell us your reason.
It was always felt, I wanted to, twofold reason.
Number one, I felt I had been given so much.
I'm a son of a state trooper in Georgia.
My family was dairy farmers.
This country had given me a lot.
I wanted to serve.
And number two, I was tired of hearing about everything and wondering about everything.
I'm the type of person that says, I'm not going to sit back and gripe about something that I'm not willing to fix.
You know, it's been almost 16 years ago for the Georgia House, then went into the, only spent three terms there, and then went into Congress.
Because I believe, and I still do, Seb, and if a conservative doesn't believe this, I know all the problems.
I know all the crap that's went on.
But this country was given to us as a gift by the Founding Fathers to have the light of this world.
If we're not shining, if we're not people who want to go and serve, then our country falls apart.
But it's not just our country, it's the world.
For me, it was just simply, I want to serve.
And I also like having my hand on the steering wheel.
I like being, you know, in a position to do something for me and that's how I got there.
Yeah, I think a gift from God handed to us via the Founding Fathers.
It's absolutely right.
Are you an optimist?
Yes.
Are we going to save the Republic?
I am a realistic optimist, which means two things.
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I believe the best days are ahead.
But number two, I'm a realist that believes that you have to get out there and you have to participate.
Seb, my biggest concern this election cycle is not candidates.
It's not anything else.
It's Republicans who will not get out and vote or take part.
And also people who only believe that they can serve in Congress or others.
You're like your wife.
Local officials, our county commissions, our school boards, those are where the real change is made.
We've got to have active conservatives.
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