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	post-presidential life.
	The questions remain whether or not he has intentionally also lied and deceived the government in terms of what was being held at Mar-a-Lago.
	So when I hear from these legal experts and others about the potential for indictments, Whether it be for Trump or Giuliani, whatever.
	I'm not a lawyer, but without getting too technical, I think both Rudy and Trump are screwed.
	No, you're not a lawyer, John Brennan, but you are, in fact, the former director of the CIA who, before he was hired by the CIA, in a polygraph for the CIA, admitted to voting for the Communist Party candidate for president of the United States.
	Yes, Gus Hall.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	We are going to continue to cover the biggest story of the day, of the week, of the month, of the year.
	In probably the decade, if not the century, a president, a man who was in the Oval Office less than 24 months ago, had his private residence raided by the FBI.
	The FBI who illegally took his passports that were not part of the search warrant.
	He has demanded that everything pertaining to that warrant be released by the Department of Justice.
	But they refuse to do so.
	Why?
	Are they hiding something?
	We have so much to discuss on that and national security writ large, given that this is the first anniversary of the disgraceful surrender in Afghanistan.
	No better guest to have in studio, if not for the President, but we're going to get the President back on the show very, very soon, than his former Secretary of Veterans Affairs, now Distinguished Fellow at the America First Policy Institute, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
	Welcome in studio.
	Doctor, it is good to be here on a sad day.
	On a sad day, usually we only have a couple of segments with you to talk exclusively national security.
	I demanded to get you in studio for the whole hour.
	No monologue.
	Sorry, guys.
	If you need monologues, you can check out the ones we've already had this week.
	But let's start with Let's start with that.
	Let's start with the idea.
	You said something very interesting before the mics went live with regards to the raid on the president's home.
	Give us just your reaction.
	As a person with the highest level of clearances, who's worked in intelligence for the military in two different services, been a cabinet member, we haven't spoken since the raid.
	Your initial reaction.
	Let me start with the observation of someone who knows how the left works.
	And that is the current president of El Salvador, Bukele.
	He issued a statement after he heard about the raid and said that if he had done that to the communist opposition, the New York Times would have been on his doorstep and the State Department would have been demanding his resignation.
	And he would have had his nation called a banana republic.
	His ambassador to DC would have been called onto the carpet.
	Absolutely.
	That's what we are witnessing, and it's fascinating listening to Mr. Brennan.
	And I don't even think Mrs. Gus Hall voted for Gus Hall, but he did.
	No one did more to damage the reputation of the Central Intelligence Agency.
	in its history than Mr. Brennan.
	With really just one statement that he made that he accused the president of treasonous actions.
	He accused the president of treasonous actions, but he was part and parcel of the promotion of the Russian collusion hoax.
	And, you know, they always roll back to Richard Nixon and the Watergate affair and the tension between Hoover's FBI and the CIA.
	This is Probably the most egregious abuse of power in our history, and that man was one of the conductors of that.
	And nothing, he says, can be taken seriously.
	The other thing that you had played earlier today about one of the the pundits on MSDNC talking about seizing the president's passport.
	Let's play that.
	You heard that.
	Our listeners haven't heard that.
	This is somebody who
	never never ceases to amaze me in his rabid rapid reportage as a former senior I think he was deputy director for CT for counterterrorism of the FBI Frank Figliuzzi who commented on the FBI stealing because they did it wasn't on the warrant stealing the president's active diplomatic and two prior expired passports during the raid this is cut five
	Usually in investigations, you seize a passport when you're about to charge somebody and you're concerned they're a flight risk, or you seize a passport because it contains evidence of the crimes you're looking at.
	The warrant says agents can seize evidence of crimes they're looking at.
	What are the crimes you're looking at?
	Espionage?
	Great!
	So what would that mean?
	Well, his travel record is in his passport.
	Could it be possible they're looking at espionage committed while traveling?
	I don't know.
	I'm leaning toward the simpler answer.
	Your passport is not yours, by the way.
	It's the U.S.
	government's privilege to have it.
	They can take it back.
	So now President Trump was committing espionage as he was flying on Air Force One, Secretary Wilkie.
	So let's look at this.
	Donald Trump is arguably the most famous man on the planet.
	The only person who comes close is the Queen of England, and that's because of her longevity.
	The notion that this man could move anywhere, could go to Miami, without the world knowing about it, is just nonsensical.
	You mean the idea that the President couldn't go to a dead letter drop box for his Cuban handlers in Miami?
	Absolutely.
	He's surrounded by people who are there to protect him.
	And people who might recognize him.
	Who might recognize him.
	And this is where this derangement syndrome has gotten us.
	So let's talk about what you asked at the beginning.
	I worked at the National Security Council.
	I've been a cabinet member.
	So you're right.
	I had access, also at the Pentagon, to the nation's highest secrets.
	You're in charge of readiness for the U.S.
	military at the Pentagon.
	Plans for contingencies across the globe.
	The kinds of things that these people are talking about That's right.
	are not in the Oval Office.
	They're cataloged every time they move from a safe, the National Security Council. - They're actually carried in a bag that is secured by a CIA or NSC handler for the documents. - That's exactly right.
	The other thing that these folks are talking about is the use of the record statute.
	It is not a criminal statute.
	There's nothing in that statute that says... So this is massively important.
	So can I just... The Presidential Records Act that was brought after the Nixon-Farago has nothing to do with crime.
	Absolutely.
	It has to do with... Archiving materials.
	That's right.
	Archiving documents.
	And this president, our president, Mr. Trump, I spent the last six or seven months cooperating with the Department of Justice and the National Archives.
	I've been through this process.
	There's a box that has my name, two boxes, that have my name on it at the George W. Bush Library in Dallas.
	I sat with the archivist for my time at the National Security Council.
	It just in passing we talked about the tension that exists between a president as he goes out of office into the private sector and what he wants to take with him and there's always that.
	Which is a function of negotiation.
	Absolutely.
	And that's what this is.
	But I think Mr. McCarthy Andrew McCarthy of National Review, that this had other nefarious purposes.
	I mean, I have no doubt about that, that they went in and they grabbed everything that they could on the signature of an Obama-Biden contributor who's a magistrate down in South Florida.
	Who represented Jeffrey Epstein's pilots.
	That's what this world is.
	All right.
	We have all of those clips.
	You are a mind reader.
	He's doing a Vulcan mind meld.
	We're going to show you the clips from Andy McCarthy.
	You will not believe what Obama's CIA director said.
	We have Leon Panetta as well.
	We're talking to former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to President Trump.
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	Mics are on.
	Come in with the Andy McCarthy cut.
	Yep, that's cut.
	That was 54 seconds long.
	The President had scarfed, use a good British word, submarine positions.
	Somebody said that?
	Yeah, somebody said that and I'm thinking, well, submarines move.
	They're in a different place today than they were yesterday.
	And the notion that President would even think at that tactical level.
	It is a derangement.
	It is.
	And I agree with Gutfeld.
	I think it has strengthened him.
	It has strengthened him in the eyes of even some questioning Republicans.
	Andrew Cuomo is tweeting out the DOJ better have some crime underlying this or it looks like political persecution.
	That's Cuomo.
	That's right.
	By the way, the one governor who never returned my phone calls during the emergency.
	Really?
	He was too big a personality.
	Wow.
	And of course they had the disaster.
	What I was trying to do was help him with his nursing home problem because we had a set of procedures He wouldn't return the call of the Veterans Secretary.
	No, I wasn't sufficiently.
	That's incredible.
	I think he'd probably return it now.
	He probably will, but Phil Murphy did, Ned Lamont did, all of these fell.
	They were welcoming the administration's help.
	In fact, for Mr. Murphy, Governor Murphy in New Jersey, we were able to help him stave off disaster at three of his state veterans homes.
	But you see what the disaster was in New York with those nursing homes.
	And VA had very few deaths in our 132 nursing homes.
	That's a story that hasn't been told.
	No, and they're not going to tell it.
	I'm breaking news here.
	Judge Reinhart to hold hearing to unseal the affidavit.
	Yeah.
	Have you seen the photograph of this guy?
	Yes, I have.
	With the bag of chips?
	Yes.
	Ninety.
	So that's not as earth-shattering as my first meeting with Boris in his office.
	What was your favorite flavor of crisps?
	Oh, it was salt and vinegar.
	Really?
	That's my daughter's.
	Mine?
	Marmite.
	Oh, Marmite.
	Okay.
	Where did you find it?
	My children with cheese and onion.
	Cheese and onion is a classic.
	Salt vinegar, cheese and onion.
	Can't go wrong.
	Cheese and onion.
	And he was very, he was so funny because he knew where I'd gone to school.
	I see you're an educated man.
	And he started speaking to me in Latin.
	Really?
	Not Greek?
	Not Greek.
	When was that?
	During the Olympics when he was mayor.
	And he was a big help.
	Really?
	Yeah, he was a big help with the unions.
	Don't push these people because the Olympics were modular.
	You could break them down in a day, the facilities.
	put them on a ship and send them to Brazil.
	Brazil.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Breaking news.
	Thank you, Mr. G. He always keeps me on top of the latest.
	The judge who signed off, the magistrate who signed off on the illegal Mar-a-Lago raid, we should actually call it a state-sanctioned burglary.
	Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention, you know that idiot in the last segment, the former FBI guy who said, well, they took his passports because he's a flight risk and he, you know, espionage act?
	The FBI has already given back the passports to President Trump, okay?
	That's how much of a complete farce this is.
	The judge who signed off originally on the warrant is now going to have a hearing with the FBI and with President Trump's attorneys to find out if they can unseal the affidavit.
	That should be up to you, Judge.
	You should be able to do that by yourself, shouldn't you?
	I'm Sebastian Gawke.
	This is America First.
	We have us in studio, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
	We're going to talk national security writ large, but I just want to note right now, the war continues.
	Six months.
	Six months.
	Of Russian invasion.
	Of civilians being targeted.
	Since World War II, the people who suffer the most in war are not the combatants.
	By far, it is always the civilians.
	That's the same in Ukraine.
	Millions of displaced women and children.
	Just listen to this report from the front lines in Ukraine.
	So roughly more than 2 million children have been displaced because of the war that is happening in Ukraine.
	There is a very conscious effort from all of the organizations that are working on this project to make sure that they make it as easy as possible for the families.
	They are very concerned about what this will look like weeks, months down the road when obviously AIDS starts to wane a bit.
	Well, let's make sure that we can at least help.
	If it's out of the news, that doesn't matter.
	As our Lord and Savior told us, one of the most important things we can do is to help those in distress, especially children.
	Food for the Poor has already shipped 11 million meals.
	With local pastors in Ukraine, they're getting them.
	To the mothers and to the children who need them desperately.
	Whatever you think about the causes of the war, these people don't deserve to suffer.
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	I want to talk about the anniversary of Afghanistan.
	We can talk about Ukraine as well, Secretary, but let's continue for a second on the question of what happened at Mar-a-Lago.
	I know he probably ranks as one of the least intellectual people in the mainstream media.
	Don Lemon of CNN had this to say about the raid, Cut7.
	For the record, For the record, let's just be very clear about this, so that people don't get it twisted.
	That no one's going after anyone.
	No one's treating anyone in the Trump administration, especially Trump, any differently than they treated other presidents.
	And no other president has had as egregious behavior as that, okay?
	So, what Rudy Giuliani says, no matter what he says, this is not a fascist state.
	This is the United States of America.
	Being treated exactly the same as every other president.
	I'm trying to remember when Jimmy Carter, George Bush was raided in their private home.
	I'm thinking of somebody who ran for president.
	She never made it, but... That's the key.
	The key is the 18 top-secret SCI SAP documents.
	that were on Hillary Clinton's private unsecured server to which the then director of the FBI Jim Comey said he finds no intent therefore they will not prosecute.
	That's the Comey standard.
	That's the Comey standard.
	Explain why there's no such application of intent and also why a director of the FBI doesn't make those decisions.
	Well the FBI director does not make judicial decisions.
	Those are either made by a court or told what to do by the Attorney General, who is the next to the President, the chief law enforcement officer in the country.
	Mrs. Clinton was able to not only keep those records, she destroyed government property, did so with abandon, and that's at the same time she and her husband walked out with about $40,000 worth of White House furniture, which the Washington Post did not Presumed to cover.
	But no, there are different standards.
	And I think this is why you have seen, and you and I talked about this a few minutes ago, a rally around the flag effect on the part of many Republicans, some of them in the mainstream of the party who are looking for alternatives.
	Because they do see this and they do understand that there is a basic revulsion in the rank and file and amongst most independents that there are two standards of justice.
	An attorney general who goes after, and you just had Tiffany here a few minutes ago for your other show, the person who runs the Moms organization.
	Yeah, Tiffany Justice.
	This attorney general goes after those moms.
	This Attorney General dismantled President- and you were involved in the formation of this- President Trump's task force designed to get at communist-run organizations trying to destroy not only American industry, but steal our most sensitive secrets.
	This Attorney General dismantled it the day you walked in.
	So people see that there are two standards and that is not the American way.
	But not just two standards.
	There is just an absolute perversion of the truth and what the system is.
	So here we have another CIA director who worked for a Democrat.
	He's Leon Panetta.
	He is, of course, Cavuto's favorite guest on Fox.
	This time he's talking to Jake Tapper and he just lies blatantly about the classification system.
	Cut six.
	So you're obviously very well-versed in dealing with classified material.
	Former Trump aides are now trying to claim that there was a standing order by the President, Donald Trump, to declassify any document that left the West Wing for Trump's resident.
	Is that how declassification works, even with some of the nation's most guarded secrets?
	You know, that's nonsense, and he knows it.
	There is nothing that I'm aware of That indicates that a formal step was taken by this President to, in fact, declassify anything.
	Right now, this is pretty much BS.
	Nothing?
	How about a Supreme Court decision?
	This is from the Supreme Court decision, Department of Navy vs. Egan, that states the President, as the Commander-in-Chief, It says, additionally, that this has nothing to do with Congress.
	This comes exclusively from his position as Commander-in-Chief.
	Last sentence of this decision from the Supreme Court.
	The authority to protect such information falls on the president as the head of the executive branch and as commander-in-chief.
	I would say that's pretty explicit.
	That's pretty clear.
	And Panetta, of all people, former CIA director, former Secretary of Defense, actually got his start in the Nixon administration.
	Right.
	He should know!
	He knows that.
	He knows that.
	He's just playing to the peanut crowd.
	All right, dear friends, I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	We're going to keep the secretary in the studio for the whole hour.
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	You and I know that the Deep State uses classification... And clearances as a weapon.
	The Mics are on.
	It's 100 years before.
	World War I.
	World War I.
	You and I know that the deep state uses classification.
	And clearances as a weapon.
	As a weapon.
	Absolutely. - All right, we've got to talk Afghanistan.
	And I will use declassification in an example that President Trump used it to send a warning to Mr. Putin.
	And that was the Syria operation, which he declassified.
	And I want to talk a minute, if you don't mind, about the contrast between Biden and Trump and what some people have called the madman theory of international affairs.
	And you've said this before, you haven't used the madman, but unpredictability is as potent a weapon.
	It's a huge asset.
	And the fear.
	If your enemy knows what you're going to do... Absolutely.
	Now that theory doesn't hold water at the Wilson Center or the Council on Foreign Relations or Chatham House.
	But there was a reason the Taliban didn't kill any American soldiers.
	Or that Putin did nothing when we killed the three other Quagmire guys.
	And China did not want to cross this president because he took him on.
	Trade, military.
	I want somebody to tell me what the Biden Doctrine is.
	I don't think he knows.
	Raiding Mar-a-Lago.
	That's the Biden Doctrine.
	But peace through strength.
	That the United States would not be trifled with.
	And Russians and people who did cross this president would die.
	Yes.
	The beautiful people don't want to talk in terms like that.
	Because you can negotiate with the Taliban and with the IRGC.
	By the way, one thing that's happening in Ukraine, they are devastating the Russians right now.
	Still?
	Oh, still.
	They are attacking their home soil.
	Meaning Ukrainian soil.
	They're taking out Russian assets in Crimea.
	The Russians lost the largest number of aircraft since the first day of Barbarossa.
	Wow.
	They wiped out this massive airbase.
	Special Forces.
	Ukrainian Special Forces.
	In what?
	In Donetsk?
	Yeah, it was in Crimea.
	I believe it was in Crimea.
	They've cut off bridges.
	They've destroyed bridges to cut off Russians in eastern Ukraine.
	So they are taking the fight.
	They're taking the fight into Russia proper with their missiles.
	And of course, this is now off of the Western radar screen.
	And the Israelis decapitated Islamic Jihad in Gaza.
	You want to mention Afghanistan at some point, Seth?
	I will, yeah, I'm gonna mention it now.
	Alright.
	I'm gonna mention it now.
	Okay, 35 seconds.
	35 seconds. All right, 30 seconds.
	All right, 30 30 seconds.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	Hi, this is President Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
	He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
	We all learn.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	It was very remiss of me yesterday.
	I read out the names of all the 13 marines, one corpsman, one army sergeant who were murdered in Kabul by ISIS during the precipitous, disastrous surrender of our air base there to the Taliban.
	I neglected to mention the way we remember them here at America First.
	If you walk through the corridor into the studio, there's a giant flag that we had made at the suggestion of one of our listeners.
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	They are made in America.
	And they send a message to those in power in the administration on this, the anniversary of that nation's fall.
	Secretary Wilkie, we were talking in the break, if you're on Rumble you can hear our discussion, different styles of leadership.
	I'd like you to expand upon that, but first your reminiscences of this anniversary.
	Well, sadly it brought back memories of the 1970s.
	I was old enough.
	to take in what was happening.
	But it was a very different level of disappointment.
	My father was a senior officer in the 82nd Airborne Division back at Fort Bragg when Saigon fell.
	And the countenance of the senior leaders in our neighborhood, after all of the blood and treasure spent in South Vietnam, Sadness.
	The evacuation showed that the United States was not omnipotent.
	Although we had basically pulled out.
	It was very different from what was happening in Afghanistan.
	We just had a few people at the embassy.
	Yeah, it wasn't thousands of people tearing down the fences of the airport.
	No, we didn't leave soldiers behind.
	Although some would say that we left POWs behind.
	But a very different dynamic then.
	This showed the world that at the very best the national security leadership of the United States was incompetent.
	There's a reason why the Taliban did not kill American soldiers on Donald Trump's watch.
	Because they feared what the retaliation might be.
	This president not only abandoned American equipment.
	He abandoned American allies.
	Did not have the common decency to tell Boris Johnson or Macron or Merkel that we were leaving.
	Her Majesty's government lost almost 500 soldiers during the Afghan conflict.
	They had several thousand troops on the ground, we're not told, and then they looked around and America was gone.
	We looked like a toothless, scared tiger.
	And it's from that action that the cascade began with Putin, with Xi Jinping.
	I would also argue with the Iranians.
	And we have a, in fact, I would argue probably a more dangerous and volatile world situation than we had, even in the early 1960s when Berlin and Cuba were festering, because now there are more heads to the hydra.
	Well, and they're more powerful today.
	Much more powerful.
	Link us back to the question of declassification.
	You mentioned something very interesting in the break about how President Trump used declassification.
	It was stunningly tactical and marvelously strategic.
	Just to refresh people's memory, the United States had special operators and air forces, air power in Syria.
	We were working with Israelis.
	The Russians were there to prop up the diabolical Assad regime.
	And the Wagner Group and its friends, led by the man they call Putin's chef, who we think the Ukrainians killed a few days ago, one of the most violent, evil forces on the planet, got too close to American and Israeli troops The defense department said, move.
	Trump sent the order after the warning, annihilate them.
	And General Mattis did.
	He had them execute the order and 200 of them vaporized.
	To send a stronger message, President Trump said, this is what we did.
	He declassified it on the spot.
	And that shook.
	The Kremlin.
	And the Kremlin, the important point to this story is not just the exquisite exploitation of declassification to send a message to an adversary.
	It's that the adversary did nothing.
	They didn't invade Ukraine again.
	They didn't try and take out any of our forces.
	They did nothing because the KGB colonel was afraid.
	That's what real American leadership looks like.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	it's almost impossible to keep up with each instance of of lunacy and the correlating damage that is being done well look here's the real Thank you.
	Your diabolical aspect of everything.
	When you're dealing with a professional enemy, it's good, right?
	As a former MI guy, you study the Soviets.
	They have a system.
	You do the recognition of the vehicles.
	You follow their tactics.
	You read their doctrine.
	That allows you to prepare.
	When you are dealing with a domestic threat that has an ideology, but is just incompetent, It's an amoeba.
	I look at the economy and I say, you know, if you've got a 401k, if you're investing, here's my message to you as a non-economist, but just as a guy who likes to think strategically.
	The economy will continue to disastrously deteriorate.
	Why?
	Look at who's in the building.
	60% of the people in economic policy positions have never worked in a private sector.
	You can't fix something if you don't know what you're doing.
	So what you have is a rabid ideology, whether it's CRT, open borders, let's have another JCPOA, with a bunch of people who are rank amateurs.
	Jake Sullivan is the national... We go from a guy who's had 32 years in MI Ryan gets to be director of D.I.A.
	And now we have Jake Sullivan?
	Mind-boggling!
	It's arrogance with incompetence.
	That's the deadliest mixture.
	But he has the right pedigree.
	Yeah, he has the right Gucci loafers.
	Absolutely.
	Went to the right schools.
	And promoted the Russian collusion.
	Yeah, he was the bank carrier for the Russian collusion.
	Any other cuts?
	Cuts you might want to play?
	Uh, no more cuts.
	I just want to talk to the secretary.
	Okay.
	35.
	Yeah, the, um... Because of the incompetence, the world is more dangerous.
	Yeah.
	Far modern. Far modern.
	Far modern.
	Making sense out of today's news.
	Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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	Secretary Wilkie, I'd like to continue our discussion of the sad anniversary this week.
	However, I'd like to just wind the clock back for a moment.
	We had President Trump on the show the week of the Afghan withdrawal, and I'd like to play that for all of our listeners across the country.
	Let's play that cut.
	When I took over, ISIS was all over the Middle East.
	We knocked out 100% of the ISIS caliphate.
	I notice now they call it ISIS-K, so you'll explain that.
	But we knocked out 100% of the ISIS caliphate.
	We took out al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, and you know what else and who else we took out.
	We took out plenty, and we were in total control in terms of Kabul and in terms of Afghanistan.
	They weren't even close to us.
	We were going to get people, because I believe in getting out.
	21 years is enough.
	And we were like a police force over there, and they've got to take care of themselves.
	And as you know better than anybody, I predicted as soon as we leave, they would stop fighting.
	And they were fighting for a lot of money.
	They were among the highest-paid soldiers in the world, paid for by the American taxpayer.
	So that's exactly what happened.
	What we were going to do is get our citizens out, take out other people who deserve to be taken out.
	Then we're going to knock the hell out of the bases.
	But before we did that, we were going to take out all of our military equipment.
	I said, down to the nails and the screws and the bolts.
	everything out nice and easily.
	And then we take out the soldiers and probably blow up the bases because why should we give them to somebody else to use?
	So that was it.
	And Bagram, we were going to keep because Bagram is near China, near Iran, and also in Afghanistan.
	So it covered a lot of territory.
	So I would have kept that.
	And it's a great area for exactly what it represents.
	So, you know, they spent billions and billions of dollars building it.
	That's the big Air Force base.
	So I think the biggest in the world, actually.
	So we would have kept that.
	Instead, we fled like there was no reason for it.
	The soldiers come out last and the army, the military comes out last after the people and after all of the $83 billion worth of the most highly sophisticated military equipment Anywhere in the world, it is a disgrace what's taking place here and an embarrassment to our country.
	This is the greatest embarrassment in the history of our country.
	And the tragedy doesn't end, Secretary Wilkie.
	Just a few days ago, the brother of one of the Marines who was killed in that bombing committed suicide at the shrine of his lost brother, Dakota Halverson, 28, from Norco, California.
	His brother was a Lance Corporal, one of the 13 murdered by ISIS during the withdrawal from Kabul.
	On Facebook on Friday, his mother, Shauna Chappell, wrote, Dakota's death was part of the ripple effect of President Joe Biden's decision to pull troops out of the country and let the Taliban take over.
	Your response?
	I can't add anything to the emotional power of a mother who's lost more than anyone can bear.
	I will say that President Trump hit it on the head.
	The Taliban feared him.
	The Russians feared him.
	The communists in China feared him.
	They don't like to talk about this at the Council on Foreign Relations or the Wilson Center or Chatham House in London, but the unpredictability of a man who said his greatest goal was to give the world a strong America, an America that does not back down.
	That's exactly what he gave us.
	Putin was quiet, and the one time he got out of hands he lost 200 people.
	China was reeling from the blowback on trade, on the bolstering of relations in the Pacific, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, India.
	The Justice Department created an anti-Chinese task force to go after Chinese spies and Chinese industry to cripple their influence in this country, which, by the way, this Attorney General Garland dismantled.
	And I think Afghanistan was the bellwether that has created this unstable world.
	And a world that continues to destabilize each day that this national security team is in charge.
	It's not simply that he was unpredictable, which is good if you keep your enemy on their toes.
	It was unpredictable and loved America.
	That's the magic combination.
	Absolutely.
	America was first.
	Yes.
	America's interests were first.
	And it was an America that was not to be trifled with.
	Yeah.
	We're talking to Secretary Robert Wilkie of Veterans Affairs for the Trump administration.
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	Well, we recover from it.
	It's going to be a long slog because my view is the rot starts in elementary school and junior high school and high school.
	And this is nonsense saying that people aren't joining the military.
	because it's good economic times.
	I mean, six of the best recruiting years since the all-volunteer force was created in '73 were during Reagan boom years.
	Right when the economy was gangbusters.
	So you have that.
	What about the health issues?
	Health issues, but that goes-- there are two ways.
	There's the elimination of physical fitness in schools.
	And then there's this administration admitting people with HIV.
	It's nonsense.
	The other thing that has happened in my part of the country Which is the deep south.
	Let's say from Virginia to Texas and up to Oklahoma where the majority of officers come.
	Families are saying we're not going to.
	Not with this administration.
	This administration that really believes America is an irredeemable project.
	It's frightening.
	Worst year since the all-volunteer force was created.
	And it's on this guy's watch.
	Thank you.
	America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Um, I don't know how I forgot.
	Kind of fouled it in the horrendous category of my mind.
	The caskets.
	The caskets.
	Arriving back from Afghanistan.
	What did the incumbent president do?
	Looked at his watch three, four, five times.
	Yeah, Biden looked at his watch.
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	You had one of the most important jobs in the administration on the planet, which was to make sure our armed forces were ready to win war.
	What is the status of our armed forces today?
	We're being devastated.
	We had the worst recruiting year in the 49-year history of the all-volunteer force.
	The areas of America where the military has successfully mined to fill the ranks are now drying up.
	That means red states, North Carolina down to Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, the Great Plains, because families are not sending their young people to the military of an administration that believes that we are an irredeemable project.
	That is interesting, in a white rage, in identifying the extremists.
	It divides the military along racial and sexual lines.
	There's now a mandate from the United States Navy that the sailors have to witness a three-hour video on the use of pronouns.
	We've got 90 seconds left.
	President Trump is running.
	God willing, the election isn't stolen.
	He's back in the White House.
	Can this be fixed?
	How long does it take?
	It can be fixed in the short term by the restoration of a Pride in America administration.
	The long term, though, we have to change our basic education system.
	Not only for the physical fitness because we've eliminated in the name of equity and fairness physical fitness because somebody may get hurt or it's not fair, but also the restoration of civics.
	An appreciation for this nation, its founding, its unique place.
	Why do people want to fight when you've got an administration that says that we are a country for whom most of the world's problems have been created by us?
	We are the problem.
	Here's the more perverse question.
	This applies to Biden and Obama.
	Why would you want to be president of a country that you detest?
	It flew by far too quickly.
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	Yes, sir.
	Greetings.
	Greetings to you.
	Well, I think the whole thing looks like a farce, you know?
	I don't think there's no there there.
	They're sort of admitting it, aren't they?
	We will dissect it.
	Gentlemen, can you come in with Cutful, Greg Gutfeld, and then I'll go straight to Conrad.
	Yep.
	All right.
	30 seconds, Conrad.
	Rats, stand by. Rats,
	stand stand by.
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	Constitution, America first.
	There's truth to what he's saying.
	No matter how you feel about Trump and Bill Maher can't stand him, he's a larger in life figure and you just create more folk hero status the more you target him.
	He understands that.
	He's like a black hole that swallows all negative energy.
	And the angrier you get, the better it works.
	How stupid was this?
	It's like found money for him, right?
	This raid is found money.
	He doesn't have to do anything.
	He could just pull back and just let this play out.
	He already looks like he was the victim here.
	Will he be the next Commander-in-Chief because they've martyred him?
	Let's talk to one of our regular guests who is your favorite when it comes to history of presidents in America and the current domestic political scene.
	He is the author of Donald J. Trump, A President Like No Other, as well as works on Nixon, FDR, and so many other amazing titles.
	Lord Conrad Black, welcome back to America First.
	Thanks very much, Sebastian.
	Always a pleasure.
	So let me summarize, and as a former media mogul, I dread to do this in front of you, but let me attempt to summarize the ever-girating narrative of the last eight days in America.
	First, we were told by the government and by their lapdogs in the legacy media That the raid on the private residence of a president, a man who had been commander-in-chief less than 24 months ago, was because of the need to retrieve government documents for the National Archives in accordance with the Presidential Records Act.
	Then, after just a few hours, we were told, no, no, no, no, no, this has to do with nuclear secrets.
	When that was deemed laughable, we were told it has to do with the Espionage Act.
	The gyrations are mind-boggling.
	Your reaction to the whole circus?
	Well, what you've just said is accurate.
	Don't forget that we also had the The same house organs of the regime, especially the Washington Post, the New York Times, letting it be known that it was also quite possibly an ancillary motivation.
	It's a fishing expedition on behalf of this spurious attempt to pin some sort of insurrection charge on the president over former president over the January 6th, 2021.
	Incidents at the Capitol.
	They went through all of that and sort of dwindled down.
	And finally, after about five days, towards the very end of last week, the administration had left, as you put it, their lapdogs in the media, the Trump-hating media.
	Nothing whatsoever to stand on or to continually put their faces in front of us on the screen.
	and utter with serious inflection that there was any conceivable legal problem here that deserved to be treated seriously.
	And so with that, they then said the Republicans have overreacted.
	They're inciting disrespect for the police.
	They are responsible for these threats against the safety of individual members of the FBI.
	The Republicans are overreacting and creating a terrible incident.
	That's what they were reduced to.
	It was comical.
	It is unfortunate.
	We only have a Presidential Records Act because of Nixon and Nixon's resignation.
	You've written the book A Life in Full on Nixon.
	Even that incredibly, what shall we say, that The polite word, the controversial presidency, or the way it ended at least, even that led to years if not decades of negotiations between the Nixon estate and the US government on who gets to keep which records, which are personal mementos and so forth.
	So would you put just the act of using federal agents To raid a president's home into the context of the last 50 years.
	You said the last 50 years?
	Well, yes.
	Let's say from Nixon.
	Yeah, well, of course it hasn't happened.
	It has never happened.
	And there's no excuse for it happening here.
	Now, in Nixon's case, it can be distinguished.
	Obviously, he left the office under different circumstances, and he had made an agreement, as all recent presidents had, and have since, Uh, about the tax treatment of their papers, that they will give them to the National Archives and get a tax credit for that.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	You know, they all do it.
	But there's sometimes discussion, but because of the controversial manner in which Nixon left office, the agreement he'd made, the U.S.
	government then reneged on it and said, no, we're not giving you a tax treatment on that.
	Those are our papers.
	So he sued them, and the lawsuits continued for over 20 years.
	In the meantime, his supporters, with their own money, not a cent from the government, built their own presidential library.
	And finally, when Nixon's literary executors were victorious, The federal government had to pay for in addition to the library and send all those papers to it.
	But you're absolutely right.
	I mean, even in all of that, and even with the, as you say, highly controversial manner in which Nixon left office, There was never any recourse to a warrant to search anything.
	These things are always resolved civilly and discreetly.
	Let's listen to the legal analysis of somebody who knows of what he speaks, former assistant U.S.
	attorney Andy McCarthy.
	This is Cut Ten, specifically on the Mar-a-Lago raid.
	So, up until Watergate, presidential records were pretty much deemed to be the property of the President.
	And then we had the Watergate scandal, and a lot of that had to do with the disposition of Nixon's property, in particular the tapes.
	But in the aftermath of that, Congress said, we're going to change the presumption.
	So now presidential records are deemed to be the property of the United States, not the personal property of the President.
	But because they were breaking new ground, and back in the 70s, Larry, I don't think that it was like a knee-jerk reaction that we had to have a criminal statute for everything.
	It wasn't enough to have a statute, it has to be a criminal statute.
	So in the 70s, they didn't put, when they did the Presidential Records Act, they didn't put any criminal law provisions in it.
	And the importance of that is, you only get a search warrant for crime.
	So to get a federal search warrant, you have to have probable cause of a crime.
	Right.
	So what are we to infer, Conrad, if the original Presidential Records Act imputes no crime, there is no criminal aspect to not complying with it, yet his house is raided with a warrant that necessitates some crime having been committed or imminently to be committed.
	President Trump has said, release the whole affidavit appended to the warrant, but the administration refuses to do so.
	What should we infer?
	I think we infer that they I agree with what he said, and I like Andy.
	He's a friend of mine.
	themselves, and they did something that they're not going to be able to justify.
	And Andy, I agree with what he said, and I like Andy.
	He's a friend of mine.
	He's an authentic legal scholar.
	But he's a bit of a prosecutor at heart, having worked with Giuliani in that role.
	And he is no admirer of Trump.
	No.
	And he left out of his summary the fact that the federal government, it's not just that they said, all right, henceforth these papers belong to the government.
	They'd made an agreement with Mr. Nixon about the tax treatment of his donation of the papers.
	And they reneged on the agreement and said, no, the hell with you, Mr. President, you can pay your million dollars in tax.
	Well, that's not what they agreed to.
	And he held them, and his executors held them.
	to the contract, and they won, as they deserve to.
	But that's quite a different issue than what we've got here.
	Here, there is no believable excuse to raise these fatuous points.
	19 months after Mr. Trump left the office of president, 19 months go by, and suddenly they think he may have violated the Espionage Act?
	They get a warrant to rummage through, you know, Melania Trump's lingerie and underwear and dresses and all around that house, excluding Trump's counsel from being physically present.
	They have to stand outside in 95-degree heat.
	They couldn't even come into an air-conditioned, non-sensitive part of their client's home.
	And all in the spurious name of these will-o'-the-wisp ideas that the That the huge of leaks that is customary from this Justice Department through the conduits of the rabidly anti-Trump media in vain.
	As you detailed at the outset of our exchange here, changing every day and sometimes more than once a day.
	And you know, they're dodging from pillar to post and I think the country can see You know, I, for example, last weekend, the Washington, the Wall Street Journal, I should say, which is normally, you know, pretty even-handed in the way it handles these things, said, well, if Mr. Trump opposes the publication of the actual text of the warrant, that, you know, that'll raise suspicions.
	And he was already at that point saying, by all means, let's release it.
	And as you said, he, with possibly some things redacted out for legitimate national security or privilege reasons.
	He wants the affidavit released, too.
	So, I mean, I think the country can see he's not concealing anything.
	He's cooperated.
	He's done everything they wanted.
	19 months have gone by, and they've cooked up this idea.
	It had been borne in mind that even the New York Times, and a thing like this must be considered authoritative, has published the fact that Biden has been badgering the Attorney General Garland, We are up against a hard break.
	We will be back with Lord Black after these messages.
	Did it shock you?
	I mean, given everything you've been through, Conrad, did it shock you?
	Yes.
	I was sitting here with my wife watching television and it came through as a bulletin.
	As you recall, it just literally came through as a bulletin.
	And it certainly did.
	I mean, I was absolutely incredulous that such a thing would happen.
	I mean, goodness knows, I have no confidence in this Justice Department, or frankly, I don't have much confidence in the American justice system in any respect.
	I mean, it frankly grates on me to hear otherwise sensible people like Sean Hannity saying it's the envy of the world.
	It isn't.
	The entire civilized world thinks the U.S.
	justice system is a shambles and subject to terrible abuse, all of which is true.
	But even at that, It shocked me.
	I mean, the goal of them, to imagine that they had any kind of a charge of a national security nature to make against Donald Trump just completely shocked me.
	I mean I, but in the sense that I couldn't believe they could be so stupid.
	I could believe they'd be so venal and dishonest to think of it.
	But this is the thing, they actually, this is where channeling somebody else is so difficult because I cannot imagine That anybody related to this operation didn't for just a moment think the ramifications for them and for President Trump in terms of how it makes them look and how it redounds to his favor.
	Well, are we on the air now?
	We are, but I can kill the mics.
	No, no, there's no need for that.
	It's just that I would like to make a point about it.
	Yeah, we're on the air for our video viewers.
	We are, yes.
	Well, I was just going to say that all I can think of is that they wanted to change the conversation.
	They're trying to save the Senate.
	They know the House has gone into midterms, but it's conceivable to me that they think that
	If they can change the conversation from this administration is hopeless and incompetent to the old chaos about Trump and what's Trump doing and so forth, they can remind all those people who found the kind of Trump controversial factor, the sort of constant in-your-face aspect of Trump annoying and unpleasant, that they can get more of them to come out and vote against Trump-backed senatorial
	There may be a bit of tactics under it.
	But that's even worse.
	If it's not about him, but it's about other candidates and the election, that's even more cynical.
	There's no doubt about it, Sebastian.
	The entire motivation for the management of the Justice Department, in any area that has anything to do with politics at all is totally cynically and frankly the kind of thing it can be disbarred for in most jurisdictions.
	It is completely cynically unjust and has nothing to do with what they're supposedly there to be doing.
	I mean, let's be in no doubts about how corrupt that operation within the Justice Department is.
	And, you know, I must say I was one of those who sympathized.
	So,
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	You can follow him at Conrad M. Black on Twitter.
	Lord Black, when I asked you on the show for the first segment, I played a little clip from Greg Gutfeld.
	He may be a comedian, but he is a rather good political observer.
	So is the president of the Ukrainian community.
	He's a pretty good president.
	He is, he is.
	His prediction, that Greg said, he doesn't have to do anything.
	President Trump can just sit back and he has everything to win, given the behavior of this administration.
	Do you share his analysis?
	Basically, I do.
	Basically, I wasn't sure that that's who it was, but yeah, I do.
	I'll tell you why.
	You see, and I think you can see it.
	I mean, Trump yesterday in his statement said, let's de-escalate this.
	Yes.
	I mean, I think as we said in the, you know, in the intermission we just had when we were talking,
	It seems to me the only rationality I can find in this for what the government is doing, what the administration is doing, is, of course, nothing to do with the law, but a straight political calculation that if they can get the old sort of Trump chaos going, they can change the conversation from the incompetence of the administration to the, here's Trump trying to come back, he's a frontrunner for the Republican nomination.
	The Democrats have it in their mind that the country fundamentally has an aversion to Trump.
	Now, in my opinion, they greatly exaggerated.
	I think the country now is quite an aversion to the Democrats, after they got a good look at them.
	But that's, I think, how they think.
	And I think they think that probably those representatives is irretrievable, but they may have a chance of salvaging the Senate.
	If they can just get Trump as the story in the run-up to the election, and constant controversy and contestation and ill-tempered utterances on all sides and so on, and say, that's it, that's what you get with Trump.
	Never mind, they're the cause of it, not Trump.
	That's what you get with him.
	And that they might be able to defeat some of these Trump-backed senators, or senatorial candidates like J.D.
	Vance and Ohio and Memedos and Pennsylvania.
	And those would be pickups from the Republicans so they could probably hang on to the Senate.
	And that's the only thing I can think of that makes any sense for why the Democrats are doing this, because they've all but confessed that they have absolutely nothing more serious than jaywalking to claim against the ex-president, you know, as the excuse for storming into his house and occupying it for nine hours.
	But if that is the incredibly uber-cynical play, it's...
	It's, I think it's already backfiring.
	So as we were talking, Conrad, the current incumbent of the White House has signed into law the ironically named Inflation Reduction Act, which is, you know, put another $739 billion into an already It's an economy that already has enough spending from the state and I guarantee you that that story will not be the lead story even in the legacy media.
	The legacy media tonight, tomorrow, for Thursday, for Friday will be continuing coverage of the Mar-a-Lago raid and won't be what they wish it to be which is Biden signing that act.
	So are we dealing with incompetence even when it comes to communication?
	Probably, though, you know, I wonder if what you say is right.
	For this reason, it seems to me that the Trump-hating media, the national political media that are, as you say, just really house organs of the administration, they're already, they've kind of flipped it.
	Now their line is, well, the Republicans have overreacted to this.
	This was just a routine matter.
	There is a disagreement about archives and documents and so forth, and the government is just going about straightening this out in a normal rational way, which it isn't, of course.
	It's an unprecedented thing.
	But that's how they're trying to now.
	Now that they see there's really nothing, no smoking gun anywhere, they're trying to soften it up for the administration.
	And so I think they may try and, you know, go back to More traditional reporting, but because the Trump-hating media have sort of got the message that there's no there there, there's no smoking gun, there isn't anything.
	And Trump is saying, let's settle all this down.
	But I think what the administration wants is huge controversy about Trump so that people will think about that and not what a terrible administration it is.
	But how will they look even to reasonable people who are independents as long as they refuse to unseal the affidavits?
	Surely... I think Trump's boxing them.
	I agree with Greg Gutfeld and I guess some others have said that, including the anti-Trump Republican governor of Maryland, Oregon, who said, you know, Trump's going to gain from this.
	I mean, the knowledgeable people see that there isn't any real complaint.
	I mean, you know, the rabidly anti-Trump media can't go through the charade they gave us over Over the Russian fraud of saying, the walls are closing in.
	They can't go through all that nonsense again.
	But here's Trump saying, let's make it public.
	By all means, let's be as transparent as possible here.
	I mean, it's got no legs.
	It's not going anywhere.
	So I think the Democrats gambled tactically.
	I mean, dear Biden was bullying Garland into doing something against Trump because, you know, persecuting Trump is the only thing and the only argument for their own salability politically that the Democrats have had in the last six years.
	They haven't had anything else.
	And now that they've actually had to govern for nearly two years and the country and the world can see how completely incompetent they are, they're more desperate to hang on to the anti-Trump argument than ever.
	But, you know, Trump's saying, let's cool up, bring it all out, wash it all out in public.
	Let's have a look at it.
	I think I think they played the last card they had.
	And it's a two of clubs and a ground down with an adversary that may have four aces in his.
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	They are just so vicious.
	So vicious.
	They're so horribly dishonest.
	But look, Sebastian, did you agree with me?
	I mean, I think Trump's looking good on this one.
	No, I do, but again, I felt like saying they have no cards to play, and I caught myself saying No, they don't, because they have no moral obstruction to just making stuff up.
	I mean, if you look at what happened, you know, originally they found somebody in the DOJ who didn't initiate it himself.
	Somebody told that DOJ lawyer to forge the CIA classified document about Carter Page.
	So, if push comes to shove, they will just make stuff up.
	Of course they will.
	No, we're dealing with completely dishonest people.
	Yeah.
	But look at this little jerk of a judge they got.
	He isn't even a judge.
	He's like a county commissioner, you know, the magistrate.
	No, the man who represented Jeffrey Epstein's pilots.
	Well, look, he was on both sides of the Epstein.
	Yes!
	Remember?
	Yes!
	I mean, that's fine.
	You know, your client's your client.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	But, you know, despite his fervent agitations as a democrat he couldn't even get himself onto a real bench i mean he checked in his practice to become what amounts to a county commissioner have you seen have you seen the only candid photograph of him on the internet no i've only seen that one picture of me just a very ordinary looking person but why is it a funny picture oh he It's him on a couch with a big bag, a massive bag of Oreos on his gut.
	It is the least edifying photograph of a judge or magistrate I think I've ever seen.
	You see, you and I are from a British background where a magistrate is a person of some standing.
	Substance, yes.
	And he actually judges things.
	I mean, they're rinky-dink things like speeding tickets and stuff, but he has some authority.
	But in the U.S.
	system, you're really just a county commissioner.
	You're just like a notary in Quebec or something.
	You put a seal on something.
	No, at a local level, you do not want to be up against the magistrate in England.
	No, hell no.
	I mean, you know, my late friend, the former Duke of Marlborough, Sonny Marlborough, was the magistrate around Blenheim Palace, and when he caught people poaching, he had them hauled up in front of himself.
	It's a good title.
	In the UK, it's a good title.
	Alright, lots of fun, Conrad.
	Gotta jump.
	God bless.
	See you next week.
	70 seconds, title for that one.
	What shall we call it?
	The Democrats have played their last card.
	The Democrats have played their last card.
	Their last anti-Trump card.
	There's a request coming in for Newsmax tonight.
	I saw that, yeah.
	They want to switch what you were going to do Friday to tonight.
	Can you do that?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, alright.
	All right, I'll let them know.
	All right.
	All right.
	He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
	We all learn.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
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	Okay, a very strange thing I heard about Laura Ingraham.
	I haven't heard this clip yet.
	This is from a podcast.
	One of the most popular hosts, I guess, on Fox.
	Is she fed up of President Trump already?
	Cut 15.
	Play the audio.
	Donald Trump's been a friend of mine for 25 years, and I'm always very open about this on my show.
	But, you know, we'll see whether that's what the country wants.
	I mean, the country, I think, is so exhausted.
	They're exhausted by the battle, the constant battle, that they may believe that, well, maybe it's time to turn the page if we can get someone who has all Trump's policies who's not Trump.
	Laura, Laura, Laura, I am shocked.
	Is she jumping ship?
	Is she no longer a Trump supporter?
	Let's hear your comments on anything to do with the news of the day.
	Line one, Jeff Houston.
	Welcome aboard, Jeff.
	Thank you, sir.
	What's going on with China?
	They're never going to have a better opportunity to take us on.
	Continued weakness in the region.
	Edward Markey and idiots showing up to try to reassure them.
	What are our allies in the Far East doing?
	Are they just kind of fed up with us, or confused, or disillusioned, or what?
	I don't understand.
	Fed up with China?
	No, no, no.
	Fed up with our lack of leadership.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, of course they are.
	But what are they going to do about it?
	You can't fill a vacuum with your own leadership.
	They need America.
	They need President Trump back.
	Well, they don't think in terms of our election cycles.
	They think in terms of their own survival.
	They're going to go on their own or cut a deal with China or something else.
	I'm thinking geopolitically rather than domestically.
	Yeah, they know that if they cut a deal with China, they are actually cutting their own throats on the long term.
	I think the wise ones, like Taiwan, are biding their time until we take the House, we take the Senate, we can gain some control over the military in terms of purse strings.
	Oh, hello, Dr. Gorka.
	It's always a pleasure.
	Can I just do a quick shout-out?
	I'll be really, really fast before I get to my point.
	You may.
	be back in the White House.
	They know as well as you do that for the next two years, nothing good is going to come out of this administration.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Let's go to Annabelle, waiting patiently in California, line two.
	Oh, hello, Dr. Gork.
	It's always a pleasure.
	Can I just do a quick shout-out?
	I'll be really, really fast before I get to my point.
	You may.
	I've been meaning to do it.
	I am so proud.
	There are only two sexes, and I'm proud that I'm the same sex as your wife.
	She's not only inspirational, she's aspirational.
	If women behave the way she does when the elections happen, we'll be in good shape.
	So I've been wanting to say that.
	Most kind.
	You can always give a shout-out to my wife.
	What question, what comment did you want to make today, Annabelle?
	Alright, well I'm gonna try to stay calm.
	Let me go down memory lane for two seconds.
	When President Trump, when Donald Trump became President, after he wasn't, DOJ asked him, you know this, look, but I'm making my point, I mean, they asked him, is the DOJ going to go after Hillary?
	What was his answer?
	His answer was, no.
	She's been through too much, and losing the election was hard on her.
	You know why?
	Because he's a decent man, he's known her for years, and it's loyal.
	Okay, what did he get for that?
	He got her Russia collusion, and we know that.
	Three years of hell, and it's been going on since.
	So that's a snapshot and a red flag for me for all of us to remember.
	That is so actually gracious of you to remember because this is one of the things the left will never believe and that is how gracious a man he is for all the bluster on the campaign stage.
	This is a man who understands the responsibility of being president.
	The awesome, literal awesome power he has.
	And he didn't destabilize America.
	He didn't take revenge on his opponents.
	He rebuilt America.
	That's what we need now.
	God bless you Annabelle.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give her one of our FBI Gestapo mugs.
	She deserves it.
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	Alrighty.
	You're still missing a title, right?
	Um...
	No, you've given me everything.
	Black, Wilkie, and Justice.
	And I have the title for Kangor as well.
	I gave you Justice?
	Okay.
	Yes, you did.
	Something actually did cross my mind.
	If I ever got the chance to ask Lord Black, I would be so curious for his thoughts on the, uh, the Nixon biopic with Anthony Hopkins.
	Oh, yes.
	I love it.
	I know, I know it's by Oliver Stone.
	I know you don't like him, but I think I've never seen it.
	It's, it's three hours long.
	So prepare yourself for that if you ever see it, but I think it's, it's decent.
	We're a movie made in the nineties by a guy like Stone.
	It doesn't go out of its way to demonize Nixon.
	Like it shows he did stuff wrong, but at the same time, it's like, yeah, he just wanted to help America and like do great things.
	So it's like, and of course Hopkins is fantastic.
	The music is great.
	John Williams does the music.
	Oh wow.
	I need, Jeff, I need Lord Black's email.
	I can't find it.
	What sucks too about the primaries tonight is that Wyoming and Alaska are both in like Yes!
	What's the latest poll?
	Yeah, so I mean why I hear their polls close at 8 p.m.
	Their time which is 10 p.m.
	Our time and then Alaska.
	I mean forget about it.
	They're basically on a Russian time as far as I'm concerned.
	So we're probably not going to just go to bed and then wake up tomorrow to see what happened in Alaska.
	What's the latest poll the latest poll out of Alaska or Wyoming or Alaska.
	Alaska has baggage most likely winning when all the ranked choice voting is done against Palin and then in the Senate race.
	Looks like Murkowski probably narrowly pulls it off.
	They love their dynasties over there in Alaska.
	Remember, Murkowski's father was governor and he wanted her to the seat.
	Considering the state of all the political dynasties in America, though, I'd say it's pretty good that all they have left is Alaska.
	Right.
	45 seconds.
	I want to use an eclipse this segment.
	I got a lot of calls.
	What have I not played that's important?
	We didn't play Price, if you want to hammer Afghanistan again.
	Yeah, that's not a big deal.
	Berenson?
	Berenson?
	I might want to play that.
	How long?
	That's 43.
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	That strange thing with Laura Ingraham going against President Trump.
	What was it?
	Hey, Mr. G, what did she say way back when?
	She did something weird about the squad.
	What did she do way back when?
	AOC and the squad on a lot of issues.
	Oh my gosh.
	Do you have that clip?
	Are you that fast?
	Are you that good?
	Yes, I have it.
	Play it!
	This raises the question.
	Will AOC and the Squad stand mute while American workers are crushed under this agenda?
	Or will they work with American populists to resist anti-worker policies?
	Here are a few examples of where she could work with Republicans to block corporatist Dems.
	This is all, come on Laura, this is just all a pipe dream.
	But I'm not sure.
	AOC has already shown a willingness on some issues to work with conservatives.
	She and Ted Cruz signed a letter, they kind of snipe on Twitter sometimes, but they signed a letter criticizing Apple for removing a pro-Hong Kong app, also slammed the NBA for putting its profits from China over free speech rights.
	They also want to work together to rein in lobbyists.
	So first, Laura Ingraham wants to work with AOC, who's an anti-Semite who hates America, proud supporter of the BDS movement.
	And now she gives an interview in a podcast saying it might be time to move on from Trump.
	What do you guys think?
	Let's ask Linda in Philadelphia, line one.
	Welcome, Linda.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you so much for all you do.
	Don't mention it.
	So, when I just heard that driving home, I was so disappointed.
	Who's more exhausted than President Trump?
	He's been dealing with this for six years.
	We have to support him.
	The biggest thing about supporting President Trump is he's the only one who's going to stop them doing this again.
	He has been the target of the FBI.
	He has been the target of the CIA, the NSA.
	Nobody else is going to clean it up.
	So yes, we are very disappointed in Laura Ingraham for saying it's time to move on because I guess she what?
	She likes AOC to be president or she just wants another rhino.
	God bless you, Linda.
	Stay safe out there.
	Let's go to David in California, line three.
	Welcome, David.
	Oh, thank you, Dr. Spassion.
	Listen, I watched your program Sunday night on Newsmax.
	I loved it.
	Every guest that you had was right on the money.
	The one that intrigued me the most or the one that scared me the most was the FBI agent who was handed the little black slips of cloth to put over his badge for telling the truth.
	And then on another network the other night, I saw another FBI agent retired who was telling everybody, or whatever you do, be peaceful.
	Don't resist.
	You mean like the lady who got shot in the Capitol building?
	Right.
	Or was it all... When they come to your house, they tell us, relax, no violence.
	They come armed.
	They never come knocking on the door with a... They come armed.
	Right, right.
	They come with fully automatic M4s.
	Steve Gray, the former FBI agent, he didn't just get handed one of those black mourning patches for his badge.
	He was mailed dozens of them.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was mailed to him from the local FBI field office.
	A clear, clear threat of death for that FBI agent because he was prepared to call out the corruption.
	Thank you, David.
	You don't want to miss the next one.
	This Sunday we are continuing our takedown of the Deep State.
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	Let's go to California, line 4, Mary Ann.
	Welcome Mary Ann to America First.
	Now is the time to talk, Marianne.
	Are you there?
	Is your phone in your purse?
	Let's go to Michael Dayton, line five.
	Welcome, Michael.
	Yes, Dr. Gorka.
	Yes.
	I'm a Vietnam era veteran and a conservative.
	And please correct my perception of history if I'm incorrect here.
	But it seems like after the 1994 contract with America, The Republicans eventually, I don't know, corrupted themselves or whatever and went off the rails and started acting like Democrats.
	And so the electorate said, well, if you're going to act like Democrats, we'll vote for Democrats.
	So my question is, what's going to keep them in line and keep them from doing the same thing that they did back then?
	Leadership, leadership, leadership.
	Why did they behave the right way?
	Why were they patriots?
	Because of Newt Gingrich.
	Because he corralled them to do the right thing.
	We need enough MAGA candidates that they exert pressure on Kevin McCarthy to do the right thing.
	He's not a bad guy in my estimation, but he is a weak man.
	So we need to have all the America First candidates who win.
	All the people who are MAGA to put pressure on the leadership so that they actually represent the American people.
	Great question.
	Thank you for your service, Michael.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give Michael a signed copy of Why We Fight, Defeating America's Enemies With No Apologies.
	Thank you, Michael, for your service.
	Let's go to Michael.
	Let's go to Greg in Pittsburgh, line one.
	Welcome, Greg.
	Okay, I had Laura Ingraham on in the background last night.
	I was in the garage working.
	Are you in a disco, Michael?
	Nope.
	Are you in a discotheque?
	I am not.
	I'm in my car driving home from my naval defense job.
	It's a little noisy.
	Do you have the windows open?
	Okay.
	I just put them up.
	I had one down slightly.
	Okay, all right.
	Carry on about Laura Ingraham.
	Carry on.
	Yeah, well, last night I overheard what she said, and she was questioning one of Trump's lawyers, and I don't know what's up with her, but if she really thinks that Trump's policy, somebody with Trump's policies, but not Trump, so she thinks it's just Trump's personality they don't like?
	I mean, I don't know how dumb.
	Oh, that is so good.
	That is genius.
	Greg, you nailed it.
	It's not his personality that's the issue.
	It's what he gets done for Americans.
	It's how he weakens the extremist right.
	Wow.
	God bless.
	So, are you a civilian working for the Defense Department?
	No, I'm an engineer.
	I've been working for defense industry for like 30 years.
	I wanted to tell you was we have to keep an eye on the machines.
	Oh yeah.
	Listen, you're breaking up.
	You're clearly a smart guy.
	Don't be a stranger.
	Call back.
	But let's get Greg a signed copy of The War for America Sold because he nailed it.
	It's not about the character.
	It's the policies.
	The character is just the, you know, excuse for what they're doing or why they're doing what they're doing.
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	Hey, Eric.
	Yes?
	When I said about putting that behind Secretary Wilkie's name, I meant behind it.
	What do you mean behind it?
	On the same line as his name.
	Oh, shoot.
	I'm sorry, what would you want on the second line, then?
	What you had on the second line.
	Oh, so two titles on the same chyron?
	Right, because one's a former title, one's his active title.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry, I did not understand that.
	90 seconds.
	Okay, got it.
	You want to do that with other guests?
	Yeah, if they're guests of his rank, absolutely.
	Sure, sure.
	Gotcha.
	Like Ben Carson.
	Right.
	Maybe title right after the name and then Twitter handle or whatever.
	Twitter handle or current affiliation.
	Jeff, will you reach out to Mar-a-Lago to get the president on?
	Is Jeff there?
	Yeah, he's here.
	He said yes.
	Oh, and before I have to jump tonight, let's plan the guests for Newsmax.
	So that's instead of Friday.
	Okay, good.
	The calendar now for you on Rob Schmidt's show tonight, 7.15.
	So that's instead of Friday.
	That's instead of the Friday 7.15.
	Okay, good.
	Yes.
	So you have all of Friday for the Greg Kelly.
	Okay.
	40 seconds. 40 seconds. 40 seconds.
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	Dr.
	G is in the house on America First.
	You know why Mr. G gets the big bucks?
	Mr. G gets the big bucks because he watches CNN and MSNBC for me so I don't have to.
	The same with my colleague who will go unmentioned, unnamed, just sent me this from the Washington Post comment section.
	Article praising Liz Cheney.
	I thought I should read this comment to you because it's rather good.
	Yes, yes, orange man bad.
	Trump is evil, blah blah blah.
	Check your Rorschach tests.
	Most people are not obsessed with our 45th president, soon to be 47th, except Liz Cheney.
	In columns like these, she is deified.
	But in the real world, Cheney is like that dead mouse in the kitchen mousetrap.
	All that remains is to wait until tonight when the wise voters of Wyoming will walk over to the mousetrap, pick her up, and flush her down the toilet.
	She is the female Beto O'Rourke.
	Now that, that is a good comment on the Washington Post website.
	Let's squeeze in one more call before our special guest, Sally Cleveland.
	Welcome, Sally.
	Yes, hello.
	Regarding the one caller's comment about the Need to watch the voting machines at the elections.
	I'm concerned about watching everything.
	Yes.
	Staying on top of our state legislatures.
	They need to tighten things up more.
	They need to do their job, Sally.
	They need to do their job.
	Well, I have an idea for a t-shirt.
	All right, quickly.
	A bald eagle with wings outstretched, tail is extended, and underneath it'll say, Conservatives on guard for election integrity.
	Oh, I like that.
	Conservatives on guard for election integrity.
	I like that.
	Let me ruminate on that.
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	Let me address recent unfounded attacks on the professionalism of the FBI and Justice Department agents and prosecutors.
	I will not stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked.
	The men and women of the FBI and the Justice Department are dedicated, patriotic public servants.
	Every day, they protect the American people from violent crime, terrorism, and other threats to their safety, while safeguarding our civil rights.
	They do so at great personal sacrifice and risk to themselves.
	I am honored to work alongside them.
	But what has that got to do with the price of bread, Attorney General Garland?
	That was the very peculiar...
	Very un-American press conference on Thursday, where the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the DOJ spoke for less than five minutes, and like some little tin-pot dictator refused to take questions and walked off the stage.
	And instead of addressing the issue everyone wanted to know about, what was the justification for raiding the home of a man who just less than 24 months ago was President of the United States,
	He attempted to cover himself in the glory of FBI agents, the same glory of those agents who falsified FISA warrants, who entrapped General Flynn, and who actually lied about their involvement in spying on the Trump campaign.
	There's this smack of other regimes we've seen before in the 20th century.
	Let's ask a man who knows more about them than anybody else.
	He is the director of the Institute for Faith and Freedom at Grove City College.
	Any book with his name on it is worth your time.
	Paul Kengor.
	Professor Kengor, welcome to America First One-on-One.
	Seb, you're too kind and it's always good to be with you.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	I'm going to throw everyone for a loop right now because I'm talking about the story of the day, the story of the year, probably the story of the decade.
	But before we analyze that and some potential connections to less democratic systems around the world, you sent me a piece just a few moments ago that a little bit out of Your wheelhouse when I looked originally at the subject, but then I realized why it's important.
	So why did you send me something about Olivia Newton-John, Professor Kengor?
	Yeah, so I wrote a tribute to Olivia Newton-John for American Spectator.
	And I know we're talking about Merrick Garland today and Salman Rushdie and Olivia Newton-John, but only one of the three did I have a crush on when I was a 12-year-old boy.
	And I assure you it wasn't Merrick Garland or Salman Rushdie.
	And I think that I was representative of a lot of young boys in America, around the world.
	She's Australian, of course, but she was really a remarkable personality.
	Of course, she did the movie Grease in 1978, which I saw at the Pioneer Drive-In in Butler, Pennsylvania, when I was a 12-year-old.
	But she was really a remarkable lady, a remarkable voice.
	A very charming and happy, contented person.
	In fact, interesting, Seb, I got an email today.
	I won't out the guy, but he's an executive director of a prominent foundation, and he told me, he said, you know, I read your piece on Olivia Newton-John.
	She was the kind of girl that every young boy It's so strange.
	I mean, everyone had that crush.
	I had that crush.
	We're of the same vintage.
	A very fine vintage.
	But she wasn't even American!
	How weird is that, Paul?
	Yeah, she wasn't even American.
	And in my article, I included a number of photos with her and Ronald Reagan and with Nancy Reagan, George H.W. Bush.
	Bush.
	And I mean, so being an Australian, I don't think she was registered with any political party in the United States.
	And somebody asked me, they said, well, what do you think she was, Republican or Democrat?
	And I said, well, she had to choose and would have registered.
	I think she was probably a Republican.
	And at the very least, in the 1980s and in the 1990s, There's some stuff online saying that, well, she was pro-gay rights, environmental issues, and everything toward the end of her life.
	Well, that's fine.
	But I think in the 1980s and so forth, my understanding was that she identified with the Republicans, And I'll say this, and this adds to one of the reasons why I wrote about her.
	She was classy, and she wasn't somebody who was obnoxious about politics.
	And as one of my Hollywood conservative friends always says, well, if you don't know his or her politics of someone in Hollywood, it usually means that he or she is a conservative.
	Because the liberals are obnoxious.
	They can't shut up.
	The Republicans and conservatives are more discreet.
	They're more quiet.
	And they have to be because the liberals are so nasty and vicious in Hollywood that they would attack them.
	But she was very classy.
	She never went the way in the 80s of somebody like a Madonna.
	And she died at age 73 after about 30 years of cancer, lived quite a life.
	But a lot of people of my generation, I think they were sorry to see her go.
	She was a very impressive woman.
	And the funny thing about Hollywood, not that I'm an insider by any means, but you know, I've met a few people and I've been on a couple of sets.
	That analogy or that observation that if you don't know their politics, they're probably a conservative because they want to survive.
	The one thing you do find out, especially when you go out, you know, have a meal with them or have a drink with them, is the guys that actually work for a living, I mean the ones that don't, you know, dress up and put on makeup and pretend to be somebody else, you know, the gaffers, the best grips, the cameraman.
	I haven't met a left-wing cameraman in my life, you know, the guys that You know, hump around these massive pieces of equipment.
	They're all conservative, Paul.
	I wonder why that is.
	I know, they always are.
	And in fact, not only in Hollywood, but you've seen this with a lot of the people, you know, MSNBC, CNN, right?
	A lot of the news media people that are following whatever kind of infamous left-wing journalists.
	Yeah, the camera guys are always conservative.
	And they'll always pull you aside, right?
	And start talking your ear off and say, hey, listen, I voted for Trump too, right?
	Or I voted for Reagan, or I voted for Bush, or I can't stand that guy Biden.
	Yeah, they're always completely different from the people actually in front of the camera that they're filming.
	Very true.
	Yeah, I'm reminded of not too long ago, Mike Pompeo went on a much-heralded visit to Italy, to Rome, to the Vatican.
	I was invited to fly on the Secretary's jet to accompany him as a, I don't know what I am now, a media person.
	What a tough gig, by the way.
	It was.
	Although I have to say, the Secretary's plane, a little bit of inside baseball, the Secretary of State's plane is garbage by comparison to Air Force One.
	I mean, it doesn't even have the same, it's got different hodgepodge of seats in the back.
	You have to fly with the hoi polloi and the media.
	It's a little bit worn, ragged around the edges.
	Air Force One is even better than the movies, and I've been on both.
	And I remember hanging out with the cameraman from a certain cable channel, going to Trastevere, having a meal with him.
	Salt of the Earth.
	Great guys.
	You know who you are, gentlemen.
	Anytime you want to break bread, I'm there.
	Paul, before we switch to the more strategic things, although this is strategic as well, whilst we're talking about Hollywood, I don't know if you've seen it, but I'd like to ask everybody in the last month or so about it.
	Given the fact that Top Gun has now, as of this weekend, become the seventh highest grossing movie in history, It just outstripped Titanic and it made a billion dollars in the first six weeks.
	Do you think that's a sign of something?
	Because there's nothing politically correct.
	It's just a celebration of America.
	Do you feel optimistic that perhaps the left's grip on popular culture is waning to a certain degree?
	No, I'm not optimistic.
	I still think we're going to hell in a handbasket, to be totally frank with you.
	But that is a positive sign, and that's something that ought to speak to people, and ought to speak to Hollywood.
	But you know, Seb, it's been like that for decades.
	Yeah, Michael Medved was, I think, right, who in the 80s or 90s did a book titled, was it Hollywood vs. America?
	Something like that, about how movies that are patriotic, that are conservative, always outperform these woke movies and these left-wing movies.
	And you would think Hollywood would learn more of a lesson from it, but they don't.
	In fact, I can tell you that the movie that I mean, here it is, 2023.
	The movie rights for that book were purchased back in around 2006.
	the crusader which is coming out in 2023 it stars it stars dennis quaid as ronald reagan i mean here it is 2023 the movie rights for that book were purchased back in around 2006 so it took that long to get a movie made uh i knew that film was coming but i wasn't aware it was based upon your That is incredibly exciting.
	All right, another topic to squeeze into our hour.
	Okay, the books you need to know about.
	We're going to discuss The Devil and Karl Marx.
	Dupes is my favorite.
	The inside story of the useful idiots in America.
	And then we have The Pope.
	And the President, also by Paul, but anything with his name on the spine is worth your read.
	We're talking to the Executive Director of Grove City College's Institute for Faith and Freedom, a true expert on the threat to America.
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	Paul, You wrote, let's talk about something very topical in the news before we talk about the broader issues of Mar-a-Lago, security state, Stasi tactics.
	Salman Rushdie, as far as most of us were concerned, this was an old story.
	This was from the 1990s.
	This was a fatwa from Tehran from a man who is now dead against an author who wrote a fictional piece That was deemed to be heretical or blasphemous by the fundamentalist regime.
	It looks as if it wasn't such a piece of ancient history, correct?
	Correct, yeah, in fact...
	That follow was issued against him in 1989, so 33 years now.
	And the man has been in hiding for so long.
	In fact, early on, it was really intense hiding.
	And the one of the biographers of Margaret Thatcher, Charlie Moore, talks about how in those initial weeks and months, Rushdie, who was a man of the left, right?
	This is not a right winger.
	Man of the left, very critical of the Thatcher government, which I think he referred to as the Thatcher regime, and used words like colonizers to refer to armies and security guards and so forth.
	Despite the fact that it was, of course, the British police that defended him and protected him for more than a decade.
	That's exactly right.
	And in fact, Charlie Moore says that the Thatcher people said that within the first five months of the FOTWA that was issued against him, Thatcher's government, conservative government, the Tories, moved him to 57 different residences with a changed name.
	So they were protecting him all the time.
	And frankly, he was safe then.
	And he was safe throughout the 1990s.
	And again, those were largely conservative governments, right?
	John Major, then Tony Blair comes in.
	So he was protected for a long time.
	And I think maybe, look, and I don't know the guy, I haven't talked to him or anything like that, but looking at everything that's gone on, it seems like he probably let his guard down a bit, Seb.
	And what happened last Friday?
	Well, he was at the Chautauqua Institution in New York, where I was.
	I was speaking there four or five weeks ago in early July.
	And so I know that place.
	It's just over the border of Pennsylvania.
	It's in Lower Southern New York.
	It's about a 40-minute drive from Erie, Pennsylvania.
	And there's a giant outdoor amphitheater, and it's an interfaith community.
	They've never been big on security.
	And, you know, in their defense, they've never really had a big need for security.
	But Rushdie was there in the main amphitheater, and I talked to somebody on Saturday morning.
	The next day, I called him and said, Hey, did you know anything about this?
	Did you see it?
	Were you there?
	I said, yeah, it was right up front.
	I saw the whole thing.
	Rushdie came out.
	Rushdie was on the stage.
	He was with his interlocutor.
	It was going to be a Q&A.
	And the person said, welcome everybody to the 1045 discussion.
	And all of a sudden, this man runs up on stage.
	And my witness told me, he said, I thought it was just somebody running up to adjust the microphone.
	And then he starts punching He said, I saw him punch Rushdie four times.
	And later on, he figured out that Rushdie, or the attacker's name is Hadi Mater, is his name, a New Jersey man, must have been holding a knife in his palm, probably with the blade sticking up through his knuckles.
	and was actually punching and stabbing Rushdie.
	He stabbed him in the neck.
	He apparently got him in the eye.
	It looks like Rushdie's probably going to lose an eye, or at least eyesight in one of his eyes.
	He got him in the liver, one of his organs.
	So the next day, Rushdie was on a ventilator in bad condition.
	It looks like apparently he's going to live, fortunately.
	But there was no security at the place.
	I was told no metal detectors or anything like that.
	I'm sure there will be in the future.
	So Rushdie had this bounty on him for 33 years, and it's finally caught up to him.
	It was a radical Islamist who got him, stabbed him multiple times, and nearly killed him last Friday.
	Well, based upon latest reports, I think it was Sunday, he's off the ventilator, he's joking, cracking jokes, so he's compass mantis, let's all pray for Salman Rushdie for a speedy, speedy recovery.
	But it just underlines one thing, does it not, as a survivor of the Holocaust, I think it was Simon Wiesenthal said, what is the great lesson of the Holocaust?
	When a group of individuals repeatedly says they want to destroy you and kill you, you should probably pay attention to them sooner or later.
	So ideology matters, does it not, Paul?
	It does.
	In fact, Rushdie's 75 years old, and this guy's an Islamist, and in fact, you know, in the Quran 47, section 47-4, it says, find the unbelievers and strike them in the neck.
	And this guy went for the neck.
	And what we understand about him, he's from New Jersey, he's 24 years old, and his parents divorced in 2004.
	So he was just a young boy at that time.
	He was about six years old.
	His father went back home to Lebanon at that point, southern Lebanon.
	And the mother has since talked to a number of different news organizations in the United States.
	And she said the son went back to visit the father in 2018.
	And she said he came back.
	It was just terrible.
	He wasn't talking to me anymore.
	He hid in the basement.
	He didn't want anything to do with anybody.
	He started cooking his own food.
	He's disassociated himself with us.
	And somehow he became radicalized, apparently, during that 28-30 days, that one month that he went back home to Lebanon.
	And I don't know what it was or when it happened, but at some point in the last few years, he committed to coming out all the way to Chautauqua, Lake Chautauqua, in southern New York, looking to kill Salman Rushdie, and he almost pulled it off.
	Yeah, and it was carrying apparently a fake driver's license with the name of two Iranian IRGC commanders on that fake license.
	So quite a level of communicative commitment there.
	We're talking to Paul Kengor, Professor Kengor.
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	All right, so let's return to the little clip I opened the show with Paul.
	Merrick Garland not explaining anything about what the FBI had in terms of justification for raiding the home of a former president, trying to distract us by talking about how great the FBI is Will you put the events of the last 10 days into perspective, given your understanding of authoritarian regimes?
	As someone born here, my background is, you know, parents who escaped a communist regime.
	As an American born here, did you ever think that we would be in a place where somebody who less than two years ago was the president was having his private residence raided by federal law enforcement carrying guns, Paul?
	Well, it's most definitely unprecedented.
	And here's what really bothers me about it, Seb, is that, you know, you need to present your reasons for why this happened.
	And what bothers me about Merrick Garland's press conference there is the minute that there's any pushback or questioning, you know, do you have evidence for this?
	Was this justified?
	They start playing the victim.
	You know, they start accusing others of attack, of hatred, of inciting violence.
	You know, it's only natural to respond to something like this by saying, in fact, it was a couple of different people We lost you there for a second.
	Start that again.
	A couple of guys did what?
	Yeah.
	I saw a discussion between Piers Morgan and Bill Maher, who are both men of the left, and they were even both saying, you've got to have good justification for this.
	Andrew Cuomo even said that.
	And there are people on the left that are worried that just when it looks like the Democrats may have caught the Republicans in the polls going up to the midterms in November 2020, this might now energize Republicans, especially if it turns out that this isn't justified.
	So, it really bothers me that Merrick Garland and others get so upset when somebody simply says, OK, why did you guys do this?
	Give us the reason.
	Show us the evidence for why you did it.
	Then they want to cry foul.
	You can't do that.
	This is the same kind of group who, from 2016 to 2020, for four years, told us that the 2016 election was a fraud.
	That Vladimir Putin had worked with Donald Trump to rob Hillary of the election.
	And then in November 2020, when people on Trump's side wonder if there was any fraud in the 2020 election, the same people on the left go nuts and say, you can't have that kind of discussion.
	I was going back a few weeks ago, just by happenstance, Through my files for a book that I did on George W. Bush in 2004.
	And I had a folder in there, Seb, because I had a chapter on this in the book, on liberals going bananas in December 2000, questioning whether or not that election was valid.
	Bushwhacked by the Supremes, right?
	There was a book called something like that.
	Liberals have done this forever.
	There are questions about the 1960 election.
	There's just been a major book done on that.
	And then all of a sudden, when Trump supporters in 2020 have questions about that election, they're not allowed to.
	And so I don't like this about the left.
	Do you believe in democracy or not?
	Do you believe in dialogue?
	And the point that isn't stressed enough, in my opinion, Paul, is that it's bad enough that this is a man who has the top secret, the highest level of clearance till the day he dies.
	That's what we do with presidents.
	Even Jimmy Carter has a TSSCI.
	So the idea that you need to raid his home is outrageous to begin with.
	But he's not just a former president, Paul.
	He is, and I guarantee you this, going to announce, which means he's a future presidential candidate.
	So you're using federal law enforcement against somebody who will be running against the current president, which makes it even more egregious.
	Yeah, and that's when the question of politicization comes into this.
	And unless you have something to the level of Trump pulling a Sandy Berger, shoving classified documents from the National Archives literally into his socks and underwear.
	Right?
	I mean, we know that Sandy Berger did that, and we have a pretty good idea what we think it related to, right?
	What we think it might have related to Osama bin Laden.
	In fact, to be fair, we'll never know, because Sandy Berger took those documents.
	He took those documents, he destroyed them, wasn't put in prison as the statute requires, was temporarily suspended from his security clearance, and was temporarily disbarred from being a lawyer.
	This is what happens to somebody who actually It steals secret documents that are embarrassing to the Clinton administration and destroys them as a former National Security Advisor.
	We're talking to Paul Kengor.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	When I've got a brand new guest, never been on the show before, got to do a little bit of extra prep, got to find out who they are, what they've said.
	If it's an old buddy, super easy because I know what they know, what their expertise is.
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	is when you're flying to a wedding in North Carolina and as you're getting comfortably into your seat about to put some headphones on do some writing your wife pulls out the latest book from your guest and starts reading it in front of you And I go, how are you enjoying that book by Paul Kengor?
	And she says, it's amazing.
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	I'm flattered.
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	All right, so put the book up on the screen, Eric.
	This is the latest one from the Maestro.
	It is The Devil and Karl Marx.
	Okay, you've got to get it.
	Just shocking.
	I mean, literally shocking.
	It's not exactly inspiring reading, I'll tell you that.
	Well, disturbing.
	Truly disturbing.
	So number one, it's not...
	Marx was a bad dude!
	I mean, forget the ideas.
	She forced me to read this passage from a letter from Karl Marx's father to his son, where he says, there's something dark in your soul, son.
	He's actually talking about the evil inside this man's soul.
	So, Paul, this wasn't just a political scientist or a theoretician, correct?
	Right.
	In fact, off the top of my head, that's a March 1837 letter from Heinrich Marx, the father, wondering if what's possessing Karl in his mind, if it's a demon, right?
	If it's Faustian.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	He uses the phrase Faustian.
	Can you imagine what kind of person we're talking about when the father has to raise the adjective Faustian?
	With his son, which means an individual who made a bargain with the devil, Paul.
	Well, and in fact, Marx had a favorite phrase, and his daughters talked about this, friends and associates did.
	If you were to ask, you know, myself or Sebastian Gorka, hey, do you have a favorite quote or phrase, right?
	We might name a scripture verse, maybe a quote from a famous general or president or leader, a quote from a saint.
	Everybody said, oh, yeah, that's easy.
	I know what Marx's was.
	Marx had a favorite from Goethe's Faust, from the Mephistopheles character.
	Now, the Mephistopheles character was the devil, the demon character.
	And that quote was, everything that exists deserves to perish.
	That was Marx's favorite quote.
	Everything that exists deserves to perish.
	His daughter said he would actually chant that quote.
	So, I mean, right then and there, that tells you that you're dealing with somebody... Which of the daughters, because I learned from the book that he had two daughters who committed suicide in a death pact.
	These are Marx's children, Paul.
	Yeah, he had two daughters—this is the only figure I know of.
	You're a historian as well.
	I mean, do you know anybody else that applies to?
	I don't.
	Two daughters who committed suicide in suicide packs with their husbands, by the way, ingesting poison, which is one of the things that Marx wrote about in some of his demonic poems, one of them called The Pale Maiden, about this maiden who ingests poison and dies.
	You know, really a sick, depraved man who had taught his daughters this kind of hopeless existence, this faithless existence, and they end up taking their own lives.
	By the way, of the suicide packs, one of the husbands followed through with it.
	The other husband backed out of the suicide pack after he gave Marx's daughter the poison.
	Wow.
	And some people felt that he should have been charged with homicide.
	But both girls took their own lives in suicide packs with their husbands.
	And the one husband who did go through with it, Marx called him Negrillo, or the gorilla, because he was partly Cuban.
	And in Marx's views, that meant that he was partly Negro.
	Although Marx didn't use the word Negro, Marx used the actual N-word, the American English racial epithet for Negro.
	You could look in Marx's writings in German between him and Engels, And instead of using the word, the German translation for black or negro, he actually uses the N-I-G-G word.
	Wow.
	And so this is somebody who, if we found anything like this in the writings of Donald Trump or Ronald Reagan or anybody on the right, he would be cancelled.
	And instead, you've got professors with busts of Marx in every university in America.
	So let's extrapolate beyond that.
	It's not just that he wasn't just a philosopher.
	There was something satanic about him.
	Let's go one step beyond.
	This is the second question from Katie.
	By dint of that, or in absolute concordance with that, Marxism isn't just a failed idea for state planning.
	It's actually something evil.
	It's exactly right.
	And you'll often hear people say, well, Marxism doesn't work because the economics aren't right.
	You know, Marx wasn't really an economist.
	No, it's not just that.
	I mean, Marxism fails not just economically, right, but politically, religiously, philosophically, anthropologically.
	Yeah, Pope Benedict XVI said, you know, what Marx got wrong, it was a failure of anthropology.
	He fails to understand human nature.
	He had everything wrong across the board.
	And then when you add on to that, this diabolical element to it, everything that exists deserves to perish.
	The things that the man wrote about the devil.
	Ronald Reagan said it was in a speech to the Irish Parliament in 1984.
	He said the battle that we're in here is not just a material battle about politics and international relations.
	This is a spiritual battle.
	And it really was.
	And I think one of the only explanations for how it's even survived this long There's no real rational explanation to it.
	I think it's more of a spiritual explanation, and I do think it's evil.
	This is an ideology with pernicious, diabolical roots.
	And of course he was lambasted, he was lampooned when he used the phrase, an evil empire.
	How does something this evil, Paul, get so inveigled into our institutions in America?
	What's the short answer to that?
	Well, it's a good question.
	I guess the short answer would be education, education, education, right?
	It's something that Raymond Aaron called it the opium of the intellectuals.
	Marx called religion the opium of the masses.
	Marxism is the opium of the intellectuals.
	So for whatever reason, so many intellectuals have fallen for this claptrap.
	You know, Augustine said there's a God-shaped vacuum in all of us, which implies that it's a vacuum that only God can fill.
	But if you remove from intellectuals God, that religious vacuum, then some unclean spirit is going to fill that vacuum.
	And for a lot of people on the hard secular left, it became Marxism.
	And for a lot of them, it's Marxism still.
	At the very least, it's some form of socialism.
	And as Marx and Engels and Lenin said, socialism is the final transitionary step to communism.
	It is a religion.
	It does fill that Augustinian God-shaped hole in the soul, but it is a diabolical religion.
	The book is The Devil and Karl Marx by our very special guest Paul Gengor.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	All right.
	I want to mention it again because I'm so excited at the news.
	Tell us what the news about this upcoming movie.
	Who's in it?
	What's it about?
	And which of your books is it based upon, Paul?
	Well, I've got to be careful because I'm probably not authorized to talk about it too much right now, but I'll just say basically what's known so far about my role in it is that it's Reagan the movie, and it's based on my book, The Crusader, Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, of which, if you're watching on video, I have a shameless plug right behind me right there.
	That's my poster board for the book.
	And Mark Joseph is the director.
	In fact, if you just Google Reagan the movie, there's a Facebook page.
	It's been up for a while.
	Dennis Quaid plays Ronald Reagan.
	Young Ronald Reagan is played by David Henry, who's fabulous in it.
	And the whole group is just terrific.
	It's really, really well done.
	And when can we expect that?
	Will it be in theatres?
	Will it stream?
	Do we know?
	I think the plan is early 2023, but I don't know if that's been announced yet.
	And it's definitely going to have a major theatrical release.
	But getting back to our original point on, Ronald Reagan died in 2004.
	That book came out in 2006.
	And it's going to take at least 16, 17 years for that to become a motion picture.
	And this is something, you know, Hollywood is just not good at doing.
	The movie on Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I think there were three scripts on Ruth Bader Ginsburg within a year of her death.
	Probably before she died, they were working on the scripts.
	Probably true.
	Probably true.
	And yet, you know, here you have it.
	You know, liberals talk about rich conservatives.
	You conservative Republicans have all the money.
	You know, look how hard it is for them to get a movie made about their icon, right?
	You know, the greatest Republican since Lincoln of all things.
	So, yeah.
	All right, let's put these books up there one by one, Eric.
	These are just three of the titles that should be on your shelves.
	Let's put up, there you go, Dupes.
	It's one of my personal favorites, How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century, really the story of the useful idiots and the fellow travelers.
	Then we have A Pope and a President, St.
	John Paul II, Ronald Reagan, And the extraordinary untold story of the 20th century.
	Two people who, along with Margaret Thatcher, did more than anybody else.
	Sorry, Gorby.
	It wasn't you.
	You were a commie.
	You're still a commie.
	It was those three together that brought down the Iron Curtain and won the Cold War for us.
	And the most recent.
	If you want to see the dark underbelly, The truly satanic, black, wizened heart of communism and who Karl Marx really was.
	The Devil and Karl Marx by Paul Kengor.
	God bless you, Paul.
	Keep doing what you do.
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