Kurt Schlichter LIVE: Resolved - We must disband the FBI
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Thank you.
Can he strip and reassemble an M60 blindfold?
Maybe.
He'll tell you himself.
Our special guest host today, none other than the crazy Colonel K. Kurt Schlichter.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka!
Do I have an M1 in my backyard?
Do I have nuclear papers in my garage that require the FBI to invade?
Just in case I happen to be reading up on that sort of thing.
No, I don't have any of that stuff.
I am Kurt Schlichter, retired United States Army colonel, noted Los Angeles trial lawyer, the author of We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
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You can hear my stream of courteousness video, which is not FCC compliant, but I will be FCC compliant here to the best of my ability.
But that ability, folks, that ability...
To maintain my decorum.
To maintain the level.
To keep the buzz like this is going to be sorely tested today because we have a theme today, folks.
We have a theme.
A debate theme.
And I'm going to want you to weigh in.
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I want you to weigh in on the question.
833-GORCA, that is 833-334-6752.
I want you to weigh in on the question resolved.
The disgraced FBI must be defunded and disbanded.
Where do you stand?
Let me tell you where I stand.
But first, let's hear Merrick Garland video cut number four.
There are, however, certain points I want you to know.
First, I personally approve the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter.
Second, the department does not take such a decision lightly.
Where possible, it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search and to narrowly scope any search that is undertaken.
You lying piece of garbage.
See, this is my challenge for my FCC compliance.
Not saying the seven forbidden words that cannot be said over the air.
Because I have rarely heard such unmitigated baloney, and I'm a trial lawyer in Los Angeles.
Let's listen to cut number three, just to take it up a notch.
Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy.
Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly, without fear or favor.
Under my watch, that is precisely what the Justice Department is doing.
All Americans are entitled to the even-handed application of the law Okay.
Merrick Garland, you're trash.
and to the presumption of innocence.
Okay.
Merrick Garland, you're trash.
You're a lying cog in a regime machine designed to stamp out opposition.
Let's talk about your rule of law, shall we?
Let's talk about the rule of law being fairly applied.
Let's talk about the rule of law being evenly applied.
Let's talk about the rule of law with your FBI that applies the law in a fair and open manner and it lies on warrants.
Oh, how do I know that?
Because it was convicted in a D.C.
jury.
You can get convicted.
For helping the regime in a D.C.
courtroom?
You are guilty as hell!
Look, do not tell me there is an equivalent rule of law.
Do not tell me the J6 defendants are being treated like the BLM guys.
Don't tell me that, and we're going to have Julie Kelly in a few minutes here to tell us in more detail about that.
Do not tell me that the FBI, whose crime lab gave false results that got people convicted, of very serious crimes and sent away to prison.
Don't tell me that's okay.
Don't tell me it's okay to send your SWAT teams out to roust old guys at their house after warning CNN to show up.
Tell me more about the even-handed rule of law when Hillary Clinton had her toilet server going with thousands and thousands of emails, which she shredded, which you guys said, oh, okay, Oh, okay, that sounds fine.
That sounds good.
Well, they busted Peter Navarro at Dulles Airport.
Handcuffed the guy instead of saying, hey, turn yourself in.
Which they would do for any Democrat any time.
Don't tell me there's even justice.
Don't tell me this Federal Bureau of Investigation and our Justice Department are not fatally compromised.
Don't tell me that.
Okay, I'm not as stupid As the viewers of MMSNBCNN.
Okay?
The guys who say, oh look!
We had 0% inflation in July!
I mean, they believe that stuff.
Because they are stupid.
And it's unbelievably cynical.
How people like you, Merrick Garland, rely on that.
You can say a lot of bad things about Mitch McConnell.
And I have.
But at least he kept you off the Supreme Court, and for that we deserve his eternal gratitude.
Because let me tell you something, Merrick.
If I can call you by your first name, because we're pals.
You need to be impeached by the incoming Republican House.
You need to be impeached because you have not done your duty.
You have failed to do your duty.
You tell us there's the rule of law, and two million illegal aliens come into the country.
You tell me there's the rule of law, Nancy Pelosi's husband, Gets hammered, swerving all over the place, runs into somebody, he's scot-free.
Then you got somebody who took a selfie in the rotunda of the Capitol, which all of us own, by the way.
Don't belong to you people in Washington, belongs to us.
And you want to send him to jail for like three or four years?
Don't tell me there's even justice, because there isn't.
And I take this personally, because I served this country for over 26 years in the military.
And there are a lot of other veterans who feel that way.
And there are a lot of regular Americans.
I'm not talking about based Americans like me and, you know, you guys out here on America First, because you guys know what time it is.
I'm talking about normal Americans who are into barbecues and Little League and don't want to deal with politics.
But politics is dealing with them and they turn on the news and they see the guy who's likely to run for president next time and a bunch of armed dudes with guns show up at his house at the behest of the guy he's going to run against.
Well, Joe Biden didn't know about it.
Well, look, I can believe that because Joe Biden doesn't know much about anything except when Matlock's on and his favorite flavor of gruel.
But he's allegedly responsible.
He's allegedly president.
And he's sending guys with guns to terrorize his political opponents.
You know, I mean, look at the track record of FBI victories.
This ain't Inspector Erskine of the FBI's FBI anymore, folks.
Okay?
Let me ask a few questions here.
I'm just gonna throw these out here.
I'm just gonna stir the pot a little.
What the hell happened in Las Vegas?
You guys figured it out yet?
Do we got any answers about these school shooters who you knew about and didn't do anything about?
Do we got any answers on them?
What's the deal with, like, 20 FBI agents going to investigate the big news scandal at NASCAR?
Turns out to be a garage pool, you clowns.
Listen.
The FBI has two functions.
One, investigating federal crimes.
Two, counterintelligence.
These are legitimate functions, though there should be a lot fewer federal crimes to investigate.
They should never be in the same organization.
And from the beginning, Hoover, who began the FBI, led it for 50-some years.
Hoover used it as his own personal tool of oppression.
Nice to see some things haven't changed!
Hey, you cruise ship conservatives!
You should be happy at least something's been conserved!
Tradition stands strong!
Break it up.
We need a counterintelligence agency.
We need a smaller law enforcement agency.
The FBI is a disgrace.
It must be disbanded and defunded.
This is Kurt Schlichter singing for the great Dr. Seth Gorpka.
I've got Julie Kelly coming up next.
Stick around.
Stick around.
Oh, there we go.
That was great.
Yeah, fantastic.
The Rumble Chats.
You like that?
The Rumble Chats loving it.
Rumble Chats loving it?
Yeah.
How you guys doing at Rumble?
Well, the Rumble Chats loving it.
I'm validated.
600 plus of you guys.
Welcome.
Welcome.
All right.
You want me to call Julie now or wait for a bit?
Yeah, call her.
Oh, all righty.
Oh, yeah.
Set that up, guy.
Okay.
Let's get some Julie in the house.
Hey, Rumble Chat guys.
Tell all your friends.
I want to set a Rumble record.
I think the record is like 2,400 or something.
Is that the record?
I'm trying to remember, because it was pretty big last year, and then we hit some records recently.
The day after the raid, we hit some records for obvious reasons.
I want to set a record.
I want some rumble action.
Hot rumble action.
You know, there's some FBI agents out there listening to this, going, you know he's right.
You know he's absolutely right.
God, I didn't.
When I swore in, I thought I was going to be chasing communists and bank robbers.
Now I'm executing a SWAT raid on Roger Stone and his PJs.
We now have Miss Kelly on the line.
Julie Kelly, Kurt Schlichter here.
Hello, how are you?
I don't know if you heard my brilliant, I'll say it myself, monologue about the FBI.
Today's theme, resolved.
The disgraced FBI must be defunded and disbanded.
I did see that in a tweet, and I'm here for you.
I'm here to support your brilliance, as always.
My gosh.
When you think you can't get any lower, they proceed to dig.
It's really embarrassing.
Well now, I'm sure you've seen the reporting that Trump is under investigation for violating the Espionage Act.
Oh yeah!
Yeah, cause he's a spy!
Again!
Didn't we go through that?
Everything turns, turns, turns.
We're back.
I mean, who do they think they're kidding?
I mean, look, there are people that stupid.
Michael Beschloss is that stupid.
Yeah, exactly.
The guy who they executed the Rosenbergs for less.
Exactly.
You.
I mean, you look at something like that and you're like, is this performance art?
Are you really that stupid?
And then I realized he came out of some America's most prestigious university.
So the answer is yes, he is that stupid.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
I just.
70 seconds.
What about George Conway?
He said Garland has handled this raid quote, perfectly.
George Conway.
The only thing I want to hear from George Conway is the, you know, the top buffets in town.
I want to see him in a hot dog eating contest with Anna Navarro.
Bet he can't chokeslam a protester like the winner of the last hot dog contest did.
Oh, that was awesome!
Well, he does have weight on the protester, so I'll give him that.
Oh my god.
45 seconds.
I mean, you look at Kellyanne Conway and you're thinking, how'd this ever happen?
I don't know.
God.
Alright, 35 seconds.
calms off.
This is the the beast.
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the the beast.
This is the the beast.
This is the Back in red, white, and blue, folks!
I am Kurt Schlichter singing for the great Dr. Seth Gorka here on on America First.
Today's theme, resolved!
The FBI, the disgraced FBI, must be defunded and disbanded.
My guest from America Greatness, Julie Kelly.
Hello.
Hi, Julie.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Am I going nuts?
Well, yes, but that's a separate matter.
That doesn't mean that you're not wrong.
It doesn't mean that you are wrong because, of course, you are right.
And they just keep proving it more and more every single day.
Now, of course, nobody anywhere has been doing the work that you've been doing on the political prosecutions against the J6 defendants.
And there is no other way to put it.
That these are political prosecutions.
They are in a venue that's demonstrated bias.
These defendants are not being treated like everybody else, like comparable defendants in the BLM riots, for example.
And the FBI is all over this.
Here's my question, Julie Kelly.
Where are the good apples I keep hearing about?
I keep hearing it's a bunch of bad apples at the top.
Where are the good apples?
Where are they hiding?
You know, that's what we need to hear more from or some of, and this would be whistleblowers within the agency who are willing to step forward and explain who's calling the shots, what is going on in this agency, what's going on in the 56 field offices.
Because this is not just a crisis of leadership at the FBI.
Look, I've been following the second trial of the Whitmer fed-napping case.
The remaining two defendants.
What came out today, even more details, of how FBI informants run out of the Detroit field office violated FBI policy.
One female informant slept in the same hotel bed As one of the defendants, you had informants getting high, getting stoned with their targets, getting them stoned, riled up, and then recording them and using that as evidence.
You have one of the top informants is a longtime convicted felon who committed at least two other crimes while he was working this caper.
So this is not just a Chris Wray problem.
This is top down.
And how this is, it's not salvageable, so to your point, needs to be disbanded.
The bigger question is who's going to do it?
Because I know you and I have no trust in this Republican leadership to do anything aside from write really mean letters and post some meaningless stuff on social media.
Well, Julie Kelly, and you are the author of January 6, how the Democrats used the Capitol protests to launch a war on terror against the political right.
And I think the Whitmer fiasco is right in that alley.
And during my 10-minute monologue, I didn't even get to that.
Framing a bunch of these, you know, ne'er-do-wells who live in basements for the crime of the century!
Do you think these guys wake up and ask, you know, How did I get here?
How did it become this?
I thought it was good to serve my country, protect the citizenry, and I'm out busting Fred and Elmer for some Budweiser-fueled fantasy about grabbing the Stepford governor, and I'm proud of that?
Do you think someone would wake up weeping?
Well, you would hope so.
They set up a homeless man, basically, who lived in the basement of a vacuum repair shop in a Grand Rapids strip mall.
Are you telling me he didn't have a volcano lair with hundreds of jumpsuit-clad minions and a cat on his thing, planning world domination?
He's below some radio shack?
The guy doesn't even have a toilet.
He had to go next door to the Mexican restaurant when he had to go to the bathroom.
You mean he literally was next to a Taco Bell?
But I mean, you know, two of these guys, well, they tried four of them and two of them were laughed at at court.
The other two juries hung.
What are they doing different this time?
And I do want to circle back to the question about the Republicans and what they're going to do because that's important.
But what's going to happen with these guys?
What are the Feds trying to do this time?
Well, they're trying to convict them because, as you said, their other two descendants were acquitted.
These two men, Barry Croft and Adam Fox, had a hung jury.
The government very stupidly, I think, went forward with a retrial in western Michigan, deep Trump country, and jury selection started the day after the Mar-a-Lago FBI raid.
And you had prospective jurors telling the judge they didn't think they could be impartial because they have such deep distrust of this government.
So, the consequences of the FBI being wholly corrupt and a partisan weapon on behalf of the Democratic Party has serious safety consequences, because you are going to have so many Americans who don't trust a word the government has to say in criminal proceedings.
That's dangerous territory.
And this is why more FBI agents and prosecutors, quite frankly, Kurt, need to step forward and denounce what is happening in these agencies.
Well, that's absolutely true.
And here's the funny thing.
Honest citizens who are disgusted by the abuses of this FBI.
During voir dire, when you are selecting a jury, they'll be asking you bias again, and any smart prosecutor will ask, do you have any feelings about the FBI?
Honest citizens are going to go, yeah, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.
If they had told me the sky was blue, I'd lean out the window and check.
And then they're going to get dinged off the jury.
And then you have the people who don't know nothing, or who are, you know, leftists, who aren't going to admit to their bias against patriotic Americans.
Yeah, that's right.
And so you can see there was a little bit of difficulty setting this jury, which they did in the first day.
But, you know, this is the contrast.
This is the backdrop to what Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray are saying, demanding that we all heal, that there is no criticism of either agency, that they are above reproach.
And that criticizing what's happening in the FBI is some sort of trattorious act.
In the meantime, you have this ongoing trial revealing one example after another of how corrupt and dangerous and, quite frankly, really seedy these people are attached to this agency.
So it's just a very interesting, you know, not collusion, collision of narratives.
Well, look, Julie Kelly of American Greatness and author of the book, and I'm trying to get this up here, January 6th, How Democrats Used the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
I I love how they're trying to tie patriotism to blind support for an organization that is frankly treating the Constitution like Eric Swallow treats his boxer shorts.
Okay?
This is... This is not... No!
No!
They work... Garland!
Ray!
You work for us!
Let me explain the chain of command.
God!
American citizen!
Freaking bureaucrats!
Okay?
They work for us.
You don't tell me what I can and can't say.
You don't even suggest it.
Go find a bank robber, you hack!
Julie Kelly of American Greatness.
I could go all day with you, but we've got a lot of other stuff to get to.
Thank you very much.
Go get her book, January 6th.
Go read everything she writes in American Greatness.
Follow her, at JulieKelly2.
On Twitter, she's the best.
And Dr. Gorka's the best.
I am Kurt Schlichter.
I am the second best here on America First.
Stick around.
Ah!
All right, Andy, put us open.
We can feed the rumble fish.
800 viewers now, doing very well for a first hour.
Someone in the chat actually has a question for you, Kurt.
Oh, wow.
batnf19nuchatl, I probably mispronounce that every time, but he's a regular.
Question for Kurt.
SCOTUS ruled in 1988, U.S.
Navy v. Egger, that the president has the authority to declassify, declassify anything.
How does that weigh here?
I don't know.
And I don't care.
And I'll tell you why.
I refuse to treat this as if it is a legal problem that requires legal analysis.
Because facts, law, and evidence are not at play here.
This is a pure power move.
So if somebody goes, well, you know, statute 42, United States... No, no, no, no, no.
I don't care about that.
At all.
It's all a lie.
They're trying to frame the President.
They tried it with the Russiagate thing.
They tried it with the Ukraine thing.
They tried it with the January 6th thing.
I'm not going to pretend that this is something that requires a serious response.
It simply requires, and this is difficult, Republicans to show a little steel in their spine instead of being limper than a bulwark staffer on his wedding night.
Boom!
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah.
Damn straight.
Two and a half minutes.
Okay.
I'm gonna come in and, uh... You're gonna do the reads.
...car, food for the poor, and Uncle Tom.
You got it.
I know.
Listeners out there are going, what the hell?
Is that a law firm?
And we've got a, again, still have a few more Garland clips as well as the Pelosi clip.
If you want to use those.
I don't know.
I'm just going to rage against the machine.
Uh, a little bit.
Um, was that a good segment?
That was good.
Yeah, that was good.
Cause I can't see the rumble people.
Rumble chat likes it.
They say you guys made a great team.
Um, anytime you want us to unlock the phones for callers, just let me know.
Yeah, unlock it now, and let's see if we can put some more in.
I will do collars at the top, and then I'll do my reeds, and then maybe take a collar too.
But no lunatics.
I don't want... Hi, I have a lot of problems with fiat money.
I don't need that.
Alright, and we have Liz in the segment after this one.
Liz is going to be good.
Liz is going to be good there.
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I want to hear whether you think the FBI can be salvaged.
So far, I've weighed in.
My answer is no.
Julie Kelly's weighed in, her answer is FCC non-compliant word, no.
What is your answer?
Because I, look...
The FBI should not exist in its present form regardless.
We need a separate law enforcement agency for many fewer federal laws, and we need a counterintelligence agency like they have in Great Britain.
In Great Britain, they have MI5.
That does counterintelligence.
It deals with spies and terrorists.
And then they have, you know, Scotland Yard, and they deal with criminals.
When you put the two together, it becomes almost irresistible.
And in fact, in the FBI, it's never been resisted to become a tool of political oppression.
Okay?
Herbert Hoover... Herbert Hoover.
J. Edgar Hoover.
Excuse me.
Wrong Hoover!
J. Edgar Hoover had huge files on people like Dr. Martin Luther King.
Why the heck?
What legit purpose would he have with files on Dr. Martin Luther King?
Well, there aren't any.
Okay?
And there aren't any reasons for them to be, oh, I don't know, going to Missouri and trying to audit concealed weapon carrier permits.
Where's the legitimate purpose?
There is none.
It shouldn't be doing any of this stuff.
They've got too much time, too much money, and too little leadership.
Speaking of leadership, one of the leaders of American greatness, Liz Scheld, will be coming up next.
I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
This is America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Stick around.
Holy cow.
Are we already 40 minutes in?
Yeah, don't take it yet, guy.
Yeah, Mike's live.
Yes, we're already 40 minutes in.
I sent you a picture of the first couple calls we have on the line.
There's a few more here I'm trying to vet at the moment.
You want me to dial Liz up now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All righty.
Grab that number.
There we go.
Okay, yeah, full call board at the moment.
I'll finish vetting them shortly.
All right, sit here, answer some law questions while people are.
All right, have not seen your thing.
Are you saying it to my.
I texted you.
Yeah.
Oh, you texted me.
Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's okay, that's okay.
Alright, let these folks... Annabella, Nick, if you're listening, just keep holding on.
Annabella, Nick, we will probably get to you at the top of the hour.
I've got to talk to Nick.
Ninth Circuit.
I've argued in front of the Ninth Circuit.
I got in a giant screaming match with Judge Kaczynski.
It did not go great!
It went poorly!
Alright, and we have Liz on the line.
Hello, Liz.
You are live on the air.
Well, this is going out to the Rumble, folks.
We're not on the Rumble.
Okay, so I can use profanity, but I won't because I'm a lady.
Oh my gosh, when I think of lady, I think of my special cherry bomb friend.
Our theme today is Resolved.
The disgraced FBI must be defunded and disbanded.
Wow, this is just getting worse.
I mean, we should expect it to get worse because that's how it traditionally goes, but I feel like...
The GOP is a snake eating its tail.
It's like, this keeps happening over and over.
We're constantly trying to catch up, right?
We're like, it takes us like six months to a year to figure out what the game that we just got played, right?
I think, well, I mean, we'll obviously hit it on the air.
It seems like some people, who aren't Tim Scott or Mitch McConnell, woke up to this stuff real quick and kind of said, wait a minute, what?
And I'm getting anecdotal evidence that the norms out there are kind of going, wait a minute, I don't think this sounds right.
It looks really bad.
The optics are so bad that I think the voters are getting You know, it's going to move the needle, I think.
Before it wasn't as obvious.
My favorite part, I don't remember if it was Ray or Garland, which other Toadies said it, but, well, if Donald Trump hadn't told anybody about this, no one would ever know.
Until you leaked it at the time of your choosing, you piece of garbage.
You've got to be kidding.
It's like, right, nobody would have known.
It was never leaked.
I mean, neither of the members of the FBI called CNN, right?
CNN is.
And then, like, five minutes later, You know, Trump has the plans to the A-bomb.
Yeah, I'm sure Trump, who's notably a voracious reader, has got a big, thick, you know, WAR PLAN!
And he's just kind of thumbing through it.
Then he goes and hides it under Melania's shoes.
No, but just think about the image of Donald Trump sitting there, like, going through, packing his papers.
Do you think Donald Trump packs his papers?
Yeah, Donald Trump's the detail guy.
Bye.
We are back.
back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
I'm guest host Kurt Schlechter and I am joined by the cherry bomb of conservatism, senior editor over at American Greatness, my friend Liz Scheldt.
Liz, let me give you to the theme today and you can weigh in.
Resolved, the disgraced FBI should be defunded and disbanded.
Where do you stand?
I'm there.
I'm with you.
Alright, would you say, nuke it till it glows?
Because you're in a nuclear age now apparently.
It needs to be, it needs, something needs to change.
Seriously needs to change.
Because I don't think that we can reform it.
It seems like it's just infected beyond healing at this point.
Well, let me ask you a question I asked your running buddy, Julie Kelly, when she was here in an earlier segment.
I keep hearing about how there are just a few bad apples.
Where are the good apples?
Yeah, that's the thing.
Some of them are apple-shaped.
I mean, there were some apple-kneeling FBI agents out there.
They were hefty.
But no, I mean really, good apples, where are they?
I think you can say, talk about good apples the first time something like this happens, but the fourth time, you can't say that people don't know what's going on and they're just quiet.
Now we do know there's some whistleblowers, right, that have gone to Senator Grassley.
So there are a couple, there are maybe a few good apples there in Grassley, but It doesn't seem like there's many of them.
I mean, the whole upper management of the FBI seems to be just broken, really.
I think Trump broke them mentally.
They're just broken.
Well, look, I mean, the FBI has a long and storied history of abusing its power.
And and and what gee, why would they stop now?
Except now it's they've rarely been such toadies of the regime as they are currently.
And I look here's the question.
I think you and I agree.
The FBI in its present form cannot exist.
I agree.
I think to the extent we need federal law enforcement, it needs to enforce fewer laws, but we also need counterintelligence and they need to be separate functions.
Is the Republican Party, because of this, and we've seen some reaction and some lack of reaction, which is also telling, do you think the Republican Party, which is probably going to take power at least in the Congress in November, are they ready to act?
Are they ready to cross the Rubicon and say, you know, the FBI just doesn't work anymore?
These guys couldn't even defund NPR.
Yeah, I don't think so.
You didn't even need to finish your sentence.
You just said, will the Republican Congress be ready to act?
And I was like, no.
And you don't need to even fill in the blank about what.
Because I don't think I don't see anything happening.
I just don't.
I certainly don't think so with Kevin McCarthy as the speaker.
You know, I think that we're election time, so we're seeing a lot of talk.
You know, a lot of claptrap right now, because it's before the election.
You know, it's coming in November.
Everybody's going to talk big.
And the minute that they get the majority in Congress, we're going to need to move on.
We'll have some failure theater hearings.
We tried, but we couldn't do anything because we don't have executive branch.
You know it all.
You've already heard it.
We've already heard it.
I don't think.
I do not think the Republican Congress will act.
I don't.
No, and it's pretty clear some Republicans hadn't learned.
You had Mitch McConnell, who I have defended because he kept Garland off the Supreme Court, then of course voted for him for Attorney General.
And he's been played by Schumer lately.
He's really losing a step, you know, this gun control thing.
He's behind that.
He's at this flood thing in Kentucky, and someone asks him about the rain, and he goes, I'm here to talk about floods, not the total abuse of power by a fascist regime.
And the next day, he's like, oh, that was wrong.
Tough guy statement.
And of course, Tim Scott goes on CBS Morning News and says, we have to wait until we see all the facts.
I like Tim Scott.
Tim Scott's all over the place with that book.
I mean, he's on all the podcasts, on the media.
He's a nice guy.
I wouldn't mind him as a neighbor, right?
He'd lend me charcoal or whatever, but I don't want... He doesn't have a killer instinct for defeating his opponents.
We need to have elected officials who realize how serious this is.
It's very serious when a large chunk of the public, at least half I would say, really don't trust our federal law enforcement apparatus anymore.
And that's a problem because I know I was raised to To have a lot of respect for these people.
But what I've been seeing is very unfortunate.
But just to go back to your point on McConnell, I think a lot of these people that have been in office for so long, I mean, they kind of don't care if they're in the minority or the majority.
Because you know what?
They're still a senator.
They get the pin.
They get a nice office.
You know, they're still a senator.
People still grovel to them.
People buy them off, whether you're in the minority or the majority.
So really, things don't change a lot.
for them.
They don't really lose a lot when they're just in the minority.
They're still, they still have that, you know, blue, yellow or, you know, first place ribbon, you know, I'm a senator.
So I don't think they care.
Ah, that's, uh, that's a little sad, but I'm not sure how long they can keep it up because, you know, anecdotally, I have seen normal people, people not like us, who don't dabble in politics, who want to do other things with their lives, thinking, you know, send a bunch of guys with guns to your political opponent's house.
I didn't study a lot in civics, you know, but I think that's a bad thing.
Oh, absolutely.
The optics are horrible.
And here's the thing.
Trump's gone.
He lost.
He's not the president.
He's in Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster.
He's doing his stuff.
He's giving his speeches.
He's probably going to run in 2024.
But he's gone.
It's like overkill to do this.
And it's like they're turning Trump into a victim, which is a role that he exploited very well in 2016 when he was talking about the deep state and the fake news.
And they're just piling on that even more.
And they're pushing people, I think, who were like, well, let's see if we can do someone else other than Trump this time.
people who are Republicans, even people who are on the America First MAGA agenda.
Those people, all they're doing is pushing those people back with Trump again because they're grossly victimizing him.
I don't think this is a really smart strategy for them, but maybe they think they're going to indict him on the Espionage Act and put him on a firing line like Hayden was saying on Twitter yesterday.
Oh, Hayden.
You know, I get really tired of generals who've never won a war speaking.
They should be silent and doing penitence in their disgrace.
Kurt, he's not there to win wars.
No, no, they're not.
Which is a whole different show.
Resolved the military needs cleaned out with a fire hose.
Liz Sheld, you are the conservative cherry bomb.
You are Senior Editor at America Greatness, and you are my friend.
Thank you very much for joining us today on America First.
You are welcome.
This is Kurt Schlichter.
We will be right back with your phone calls.
So stick around.
Okay, and she is still on the line.
Liz!
That was fantastic, as always.
And she dropped off.
And she is gone!
I texted you.
The call board is full.
All five lines are taken.
Wow!
Did you send me more?
I sent you a screenshot, yes.
You should be, or a picture.
I got a text message.
Let me text that thing.
Oh wow, look at that.
We got Annabelle, Wesley, Wesley from Georgia.
Nick, Matt, Bill.
Oh, Bill's in Glendale!
Fight the power, Bill.
Okay.
Yeah, again, this is a short segment, 315.
Well, I'm glad, because I've had a coffee and a water, and I'm going to... Of course.
I'm going to go and download my Schumer.
Pull a Jeffrey Toobin, but in private.
What was it Seb said?
Tube out?
Or who came up with that?
Someone said tube out.
Tube out.
Someone came up with that after that.
If you Jeffrey Toobin too much, you go blind.
I can't believe he's back on CNN.
Like, they just let him back like no big deal.
No, I can't.
Because, you know, that kind of sums up the CNN experience.
It lacks dignity.
It's embarrassing.
But Fredo crossed the line.
Fredo was the one who crossed the line.
At least there was a chick involved!
I just keep thinking it's the funniest thing ever that Andrew Cuomo single-handedly brought down his entire family.
Like, he took his brother down with him, like, they all... And he's the only one out that only liberals, like, you know, maybe this ain't a great idea.
Well, he's the one they wanted for president.
You know they want him to run for president before, you know, things happen.
Yeah.
I think I'm gonna go Wesley first.
I know everybody else is waiting, but Wesley's got... Wesley has intrigued me.
So we will do that.
Alright, so I got three and a half minutes.
Yes.
That's seven bulwarks.
Forty-five seconds.
That's one and a half bulwarks.
I keep forgetting that's a thing.
And where's the Lincoln Project?
Has anyone even heard from them anymore?
Well, school's out, so.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I am guest host Kurt Schlichter and today's theme, Resolved!
The disgraced FBI must be defunded and disbanded.
Where do you stand?
Wesley in Georgia, where do you stand?
I stand with defund the FBI.
They need to be eliminated as an organization.
Nobody believes them anymore.
They've shot themselves in the foot.
They're the Barney Fives of federal law enforcement training, and they need to go as an entity.
They need to be defunded, disbanded, and it needs to be a dim memory in American culture.
No equivocation there.
Now, Wesley, you live near a federal law enforcement training center.
What's the word on the street there?
Well, the word on the street here is that these people that the current crop of recruiting is bringing to our community are not here to serve and protect.
They're here to overlord and rule.
And that's not a good combo for people that work for We The People.
No, it certainly is not.
Thank you very much, Wesley.
Matt, in North Carolina, you seem to want to disband the FBI as well.
Yes, sir, Colonel Kirk, and it's great that you filled in for the Commander of Conservative Radio.
I gave him the title.
And on top of that, as I told Eric, the ridiculous thing, the FBI, that raid on Mar-a-Lago, I mean, that was so corrupt!
What's your opinion?
I think it's a disgrace, and I'm not sure if It was stupid or intentional?
You know, I, look, I can't, I can't, well, anyway, well, thank you, Matt, but I can't tell whether this stuff is intentional or it's actively stupid.
I mean, it's stupid and it's, I don't know.
Annabelle, here in California, you're worried about the IRS.
I think a lot of us are.
Yeah, I'm sorry to go off topic, and thank you for your service.
It's all in the same lane.
Absolutely.
That's what I'm afraid of.
Anyway, thank you for your service.
I was a colonel.
I didn't do anything.
Well, I picture you making your opponent laugh so much, and after he's bowled over laughing, you stick him in the gut and kill him.
That's how I think you take people out.
Very graphic.
What about the IRS and this stuff about you have to be willing to kill in the line of duty?
Yeah, this just came out.
This just came out.
I'll be really fast.
Um, you know, a couple, a month ago, they bought a whole bunch of ammunition.
I thought, that's weird.
But in their new, they literally didn't even wait two seconds.
They put out jobs requirements just yesterday.
And it says, be, you know, whatever else is required.
And they said, be literally prepared to be armed at all times and use deadly force when needed.
This is for their IRS agents.
So my question to you is, Is this a system going on?
Do they have a division?
Or is this new?
Thank you, Annabelle.
I think it's crazy talk, but whatever.
America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
We're gonna be back.
We got a very special guest coming up.
Not gonna say who it is out loud, but you're gonna love it.
I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
Got two more hours of this.
Keep it right here.
When you look at these pictures, you get a sense of what black life was like.
Some of them look pretty prosperous.
Divine providence was clearly operating in the lives of black Americans.
Throughout history, black folks were honorable.
They had integrity.
That's what black people were.
We were never taught that America was bad and that we were not Americans.
We were raised to love America.
Protesters topple a statue of Christopher Columbus and hundreds of statues have been vandalized.
We see people trying to rewrite history.
The American people know these names have to go.
Why is that?
Whenever you have something to be proud of, People have less of a chance of controlling you.
This country is racist from top to bottom, from right to left.
Right!
And for black people to become a part of that is for them to become, in fact, anti-black, and to hate themselves.
Y'all better, my friend!
There is no country in this world that a black person would rather be.
Unless, of course, they grow up in this country.
You broke the contract!
We've been playing this game for 400 years!
Then they're fed a lie that is so deceptive The reason that that lie exists is power.
There are certain people who are using the Negro in order to establish that power in Washington.
And the Negro is just merely a pawn in a game that's bigger than he is.
I'm so close, right?
I'm so close.
to help you guys.
I do.
Please be seated.
When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
When I was six, I wandered streets by myself.
You were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat.
Someplace in my life, the roads split off.
I'd gone to the seminary.
I'd gone to all-white schools.
I was never gonna be a part of that world.
I was never gonna be white.
The problem is, I could never go back completely to the world I came from.
We're supposed to be revolutionaries.
We work for anybody who's kind of in your face.
I saw what I had become, lashing out at every single thing.
And then I asked God, if you take anger out of my heart, I'll never hate again.
And that was the beginning of the slow return to where I started.
I want my candidacy to unify our country.
I was under constant attack.
You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do.
I will nominate Judge Clarence Thomas to serve as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
That's when all heck broke loose.
Judge Thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex.
We know exactly what's going on here.
This is the wrong black guy.
He has to be destroyed.
You really didn't matter.
What mattered was what they wanted.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my oath and did my best.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my father.
Wait for a second.
His audio is potted up.
Okay.
Ned, can you hear us?
Yeah, I got you.
Wonderful.
All right.
Turn... Oh, hang on.
We need Kurt's mic up as well, Alex.
Okay.
Sorry.
There we go.
Yes, it's going out to millions of people.
The disgraced FBI must be disbanded and defunded.
Or defunded and disbanded, in that order.
100%.
Okay.
I have yet to have anybody go, no, they're doing fine work.
They've completely ended the plague of noose-like garage pools that's been plaguing America's racing world.
They need to go to jail.
No, people need to go to jail for what they've done over the last six years, and until they do, we're going to have more abuse of power.
power.
Well, I'm, I'm confident the Republicans will get right on this.
Oh yeah.
Those profiles and courage.
Did you see Tim Scott?
Who is a very nice guy.
You know, I'd love him as a next-door neighbor, because if my car didn't start, he'd come down in his boxers and jump in for me.
Nice guy!
Not a wartime consulate, Gary.
No.
I'd like to... Well, we need to see what they found.
No, we don't.
At all.
This is what I can't... I can't understand how people still accept the premise that the DOJ and the FBI are still operating under... We need legitimate reasons to do what we're doing.
Yeah, it's adorable.
Yeah.
... ... ... ... ... ... Driving liberals insane every single day.
It's just a sport for him.
He's Colonel Kirchlichter.
We are back, back on America First, usually starring Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Today it is Kirchlichter, senior colonist at townhall.com, retired army colonel, noted Los Angeles trial lawyer, author of the book We'll be back, The Fall and Rise of America.
And I've got another author on.
You know him.
You see him on Talker all the time.
He's Ned Ryan.
He is the author of a book I highly, highly recommend on the Battle of Bunker Hill, The Adversaries.
You can see it subtly placed over his left shoulder.
There you go.
Ned, you know everything and everyone about politics.
You are deep, deep, deep in it.
I want to get your perspective on today's theme resolved.
The disgraced FBI must be defunded and disbanded.
What do you think?
100%.
I don't think that goes far enough, though.
I think that it is time... You think that's the moderate position?
That is the moderate position.
I think that they have shown themselves to absolutely not care about the rule of law.
We have six years of empirical evidence of that, which, let's just start, for example, they used a fake Steele dossier, which they knew was bogus.
That's the stunning part to me, to secure four FISA warrants to spy on the President of the United States in the hopes to undermine and take out the duly elected President of the United States.
And then we can keep on adding to that.
I mean, I don't think people are talking enough about This very crazy Gretchen Whitmer Fednapping, FBI informant, planting evidence kind of story that's really starting to play out.
But it has to go above and beyond defund and shut down.
People need to go to jail.
People actually have to have real consequences for what they've done, because this isn't like, oh, oh, I'm so sorry we screwed up and abused power.
This was deeply intentional every step of the way, in which they weaponized these deeply powerful institutions to target political opponents, and there were no consequences for the Russian collusion, conspiracy theory, spy gate.
So, if there's no consequences for that, why would they stop doing what they're doing?
In fact, even go next level, which I think this Monday Night Raid on Mar-a-Lago is kind of next level.
Well, you know, Ned Ryan, of American majority.
Luckily, we have the testosterone-fueled Republican Party that will come down like avenging angels and trample out its wrath on the grapes, so to speak.
You're laughing!
Wait, are you saying that the reactions of Mitch McConnell, which is, I'm here to talk about floods, and Tim Scott, which is, I'd like to build some bridges to my new friends, And I love Tim Scott!
I think he's a nice guy, but he's not a wartime concierge!
No, they're not.
Tom Hagen, get out of the room!
Because we're taking out Natalia.
This is the thing that's concerning to me is that you have Republicans, a lot of Republicans, too many Republicans in D.C.
that are still operating under a very dangerously naive idea That the DOJ and the FBI care about the rule of law.
No, you have to change your perspective and view them more as the Praetorian Guard of the administrative state.
But Merrick Garland said there's nothing more important than the rule of law.
Are you saying that a major Democrat figure might not be telling the truth?
Kurt, let me – you mentioned my book, The Adversaries, and obviously it's about the last 10 months before Bunker Hill.
And part of my research, I came across a quote, and again it's a little bit of a paraphrase, but George – King George III essentially told his ministers, the rule of law is what I say it is, and those who disagree with me are dangerous insurrectionist traitors.
I mean, that kind of feels like we're kind of in the same situation where the rule of law is whatever we say it is, and if you disagree with us, well, we're going to use all our power against you to force you to submit and comply because we decide what the rule of law is.
Well, they basically said that yesterday.
Reyes, I'm not going to stand here and allow you to criticize my band of cogs in the regime machinery.
And in fact, That's exactly what he should be doing.
He should be standing aside while people criticize his minions and his garbage organization.
That's literally exactly what he should be doing.
Is he threatening us?
Is he saying, we will turn on you and use the force of people with guns if you dare criticize us for being garbage toadies shrimping the toes of the regime as if we're a bunch of little Dick Morrises.
Well, there's a reason there's 87,000 new IRS agents and their bill, as we saw, that was quickly pulled down.
No, they're not intent on having a conversation with the American people.
The American people, in their mind, are the dirty little peasants who better figure out what's best for them.
And if they don't, we will use, they will use the full weight of the government to actually get them to submit and comply to what they want.
I mean, no, we're in a very dangerous situation.
And Kurt, I'm working on a new book.
But the entire premise is obviously administrative state versus Constitutional Republic and two very different governing philosophies.
But I think what we're seeing play out right now here in D.C.
2022 is really a battle between regime change in which administrative state philosophy has finally had enough.
Doesn't think progress is moving fast enough.
We're not going to settle for this anymore.
All those nice antiquated ideas of constitutional republic, duly elected representatives of the people, that's a farce, that's an illusion.
And so I think you're really seeing kind of regime change politics take place.
They don't want to be honest about it, but I think people need to start thinking about there's two very different governing philosophies at work here.
And administrative state people are not interested in constitutional republic, a government of, by, and for the people.
Well, Ned, Ryan, I would argue that a lot of, look, guys like you and me, we're based, right?
We get it.
We know what time it is.
We've been saying this.
In fact, my town hall column on Monday is going to say, stop telling me about the hypocrisy of the media, that the Democrats have two systems of justice.
They'll tell me about it.
I know that.
I am in the what to do about it, but normal people.
The BBQ, Little League, PTA, I don't like politics people.
I think they're waking up, and I'm feeling that anecdotally, but I think I'm seeing it in the elections.
You got Blake Masters, who's based.
You got J.D.
Vance, who's based.
You got Eric Schmidt, who's based.
You got a lot of based guys out there getting elected.
Joe Kent?
Holy cow!
That's right.
But I want to say this really quick.
We've got to seal the deal.
It's one thing to win a primary, which is awesome, because that's how you start to fundamentally change the Republican Party.
But you've got to seal the deal by actually winning the general election.
And we've got work to do over the next 12 weeks.
But if you want to seal the deal and actually have real fighters in D.C., We've got to fight as hard as we can until November 8th to make sure we actually have people that are in D.C.
who aren't going to go, oh, we're just going to sit back and let's see how this process worked out, or not say anything for 24 to 48 hours after the Republican president had his home raided by the FBI, and they're like, ah, we're going to talk about state fares in Ukraine.
Seriously?
Yeah, your flood damage.
Boy, we have so much to talk about.
And I want to get to that.
Mitch McConnell.
He kept Garland off the Supreme Court.
That's good.
Good for him.
Good for him.
He voted for him for Attorney General.
What the hell?
He said a flood thing and says, I'm here to talk about floods, not the most massive abuse of power since, I don't know, the Palmer raids?
Yeah, decades.
Yeah, and he's losing a step.
He supports gun control.
Not a single Republican senator was sent to Washington to help Democrats pass any gun control.
And now that mindless Gebo in the White House is walking around with a sign going, Things are looking up!
I got a gun control bill passed!
Nobody's afraid of him.
Schumer made a fool out of him.
I mean, he just looked ridiculous.
He looked like a clown.
with this getting played by Manchin.
And then this, is McConnell losing a step or two or three?
Because people used to be afraid of him.
I've been making this argument for some time.
The only thing I've really ever agreed with Mitch McConnell on is judges, and I appreciate what he's done on that.
I mean, I give him credit for keeping Merrick Garland off the Supreme Court.
I give him credit for pushing these Trump nominations through.
Good for you.
Awesome.
It's time for Mitch McConnell to step down and resign and get out.
Who needs to step up?
But here's the thing that worries me.
This is what I was going to say.
The thing that worries me is after Mitch McConnell, you've got John Cornyn who pushed the ridiculous gun control bill.
You've got John Thune.
Who voted against it?
Was it because he was smart and wanted to position himself against Cornyn?
I don't know.
Look, I know a guy like Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz, who may or may not be on the show today, is based Uh, is Thune?
I don't know.
The only way you're going to get real leadership that actually advocates for the American people, it's not necessarily about Republican majorities in the House or Senate.
It's about America first majorities within those majorities, and we are not even close to that.
So I tell people as much as I loathe and despise Mitch McConnell, and I do, as much as I have my questions about Kevin McCarthy, I think we need to be realistic.
The way that you change the caucuses inside the majorities is you win primaries, and then they win the generals.
And we are winning both.
We've got a couple of election cycles.
We are, but I think we've got a couple of election cycles before I think we can take a legitimate shot at what I would consider America First leadership in the House and the Senate.
Well, let me ask you something.
And I may ask you to stay over the break, because there is a lot to talk about here.
Do you think that any of the former soft Republicans had a wake-up call when this happened?
That they said, wait a minute, hold on.
I now know what time it is.
Now, obviously, Tim Scott's going to be Tim Scott, and Mitch McConnell's going to be... You don't think any of them said, wait a minute, holy cow, the game rules have changed?
Do you think it's going to take a... Do you think it's going to take a senator gang busted?
Well, I do.
I think until it actually gets to them.
They somehow think the crocodile eat them last, right?
So I think that's where they're at right now.
Ned Ryan, will you hold over because I've got to ask you about President Trump and the effect of this on his future and I think you probably have a pretty good insight.
I'm Kurt Schlichter.
This is America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I'm going to have more with Ned Ryan.
You do not want to miss it.
Stick around.
All right.
Mike's alive, gentlemen.
Three and a half minutes to the next segment.
Yeah, let's talk about it.
I sent you an update, Kurt.
We now have three callers left on the line.
Well, I don't know if I'm going to get to them, but that's OK.
Sure.
Because I think Ned's more interesting.
Oh, 100%.
No, I'm just kidding.
I think Ned's more interesting.
Callers, I love you guys.
Love you guys.
I'm kind of sad primary season's almost over.
It's like only a few big ones left.
Yeah, I mean obviously you've got Cheney's next this Tuesday.
The one I'm kind of intrigued by is the New Hampshire Republican primary in September to see who's going to challenge Hassan.
If we get a legitimate candidate, I think she's vulnerable, but I really kind of want to see what happens.
Who do you think stood there?
I haven't done enough research to be able to give you a definitive answer.
I don't know.
But it's a late primary.
I want to say it's like September 16th?
Well, you know, Sununu's turned into a big steaming wad of Nadler.
Yeah.
Listen, though, I wish he would have run.
If nothing else, we could have taken her out and we probably would have gotten, what, 60% of what we wanted?
Look, I'll take a Susan Collins in Maine every year, and I don't get mad at her because she's...
She is me.
She doesn't pretend to be anything else.
She just is what she is, and you just got to deal with it like, you know, you deal with, you know, a pothole in the road.
There it is.
Yeah, I tell people all the time, when Dad was in the house, there was a guy named Chris Chayes out of Connecticut.
Chris Chayes was a wonderful guy.
You could have a lovely time over dinner or lunch.
Great gentleman.
Yeah, I'm not offended by her.
I'm offended by that 180 pounds of Miracle Whip wedged into a $5,000 suit named Mitt Romney.
weren't going to get somebody more conservative than chris shays in that district in connecticut so it's like hey you know what i'll take the 60 70 percent yeah i'm not a realize i'm not gonna i'm offended by uh uh that uh 180 pounds of miracle whip wedged into a five thousand dollar suit named mit romney because he lied to oh susan collins don't lie to me don't lie to her constituency She just is who she is.
Roger, they got a right to elect who they want.
But Mitt Romney lied to us, and he disrespects us.
Because of our contempt for him.
90 seconds.
That's right.
And I think there's going to be some upgrades in the 2024 primary season.
And he's one of them.
Well, you know, if you can work with me to get Robert O'Brien to run... Yeah.
That would be... That'd be fantastic.
I have... I'm gonna... I'm gonna give him a call.
We need to start thinking about this and putting pieces in place because it's going to be on us very quickly.
And we need to start lining up primary.
The thing about the Republicans is we're very decentralized, which allows us to survive in an environment where they're all after us.
But you can't coordinate stuff.
I mean, if we were a centralized party, we'd have a sharp candidate in New Hampshire.
We don't know who he is.
We'd all be behind him.
We'd be doing it.
And there's always that balance.
I mean, it's just political science 101.
You know, there are cost benefits for decentralization, centralization, and sometimes they bite you in the rear.
But I think it's also a lack of focus.
Thanks.
I mean, it's a lack of focus on going out.
Well, I mean, that's what we do with the American majority, right?
You've got to go do candidate development.
That is true.
Thank you.
We are back on America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I am guest host Kurt Schlichter.
I have held over, and he has graciously agreed to be held over, the author of The Adversaries, a book on Bunker Hill that I highly recommend.
He's also chief executive officer of American Majority.
He is Ned Ryan.
You know him and love him from Tucker Carlson.
And he's got so much political knowledge, it's like drinking from a fire hose.
So let me get right to the question everybody's asking.
You maybe talk to our former president every once in a while.
He consults you, maybe.
Never say, because you and I, we're confidential around our clients and stuff.
But you may have some insights.
How has, if at all, this raid changed President Trump's calculus for 2024?
You know, I can't give you a clear, definitive answer on that.
I have been advocating for him announcing the Tuesday after Labor Day, but I told him today, I think he should announce next week.
Wow.
Why is that?
What's the thought process?
Well, there are a couple of thought processes.
First of all, I think you should ask before the midterms to control the narrative.
I think Republicans, despite their desire to somehow snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, I think they will take the House.
I'm pretty sure they'll take the Senate.
I think they'll have significant gains at the state level.
I think he needs to announce beforehand because if Republicans have all these gains and he announces after the midterms, they'll say, well, you had all these great gains and now you're saddled with Trump.
So he needs to control the narrative.
But I think he's an asset.
I really do think he's an asset on the campaign trail, especially when you look at the mealy-mouthed McTurtle and Republicans pushing gun control, pushing 50, 60%.
I've lost track of how many billions we've sent to a corrupt Eastern European nation.
Not really a strong selling point.
Donald Trump is a strong selling point when he reminds people, hey, did you like the 1.7 inflation when I was in office?
Did you like the cheap gas?
Did you like all of these things?
Yeah, that's what life was under me, and we can get back to it.
And I'm running again, and I'm going to get Republicans who are actually going to help me push through.
Uh, these policies that actually are good for the American people.
I think he needs to push it up earlier, though, because I told him today, and I've been saying this, I think these crazy, deranged, deluded people are fully intent on getting him in front of a rigged D.C.
jury, indicting him on the thinnest of pretenses, and I think they're crazy enough, Kurt, I think they think that somehow they're going to have some crazy October surprise, third or fourth week of October, In which they're going to get to indict Donald Trump right before the midterms, and they think that somehow that's going to be a winning proposition for them.
I think it'll actually spectacularly backfire on them.
But I made it very clear to them, these people are intent on destroying you because they view you as an existential threat.
To the administrative state, to their goals, to their policies, to their governing philosophy.
And whatever you think they are going to do, you have to think even further.
This is the one thing, Kurt, that I realized during the crazy Russian collusion conspiracy.
I wasn't thinking crazy enough.
in responding to all of the msnbc and cnn hosts that i was doing tv with i had to put myself in the left's thinking and go what is the craziest thing i can think of that they would do and that's actually true and i finally got to the point they probably used the steel dossier to secure these fisa warrants but it took me a few months to get there because i'm like that's absolutely insane and crazy no rational person inside the doj the fbi would ever allow that to happen well there's your problem your premise
um this leads me to my next question which is what do you think the effect on normal people Guys like us, we're based.
We know what's going on.
Yeah.
Normal people, though.
What do you think the effect of seeing a bunch of armed guys show up at the likely opponent of the current president at his house with guns?
Anecdotally, I'm seeing people go, you know, and that's just not right.
I don't think that's a good thing.
Yeah, no.
I mean, again, I would say anecdotally, I've seen people going, are you serious?
You're using the DOJ and the FBI against the former president of the United States over the thinnest of pretenses.
We're getting news even today, Kurt, like literally before I opened the show about what Merrick is.
Literally, they're looking for anything and everything between January of 2017 and January of 2021.
It's total fishing expedition.
And I suspect they're looking for anything they think they can pin on Trump, whether it's January 6th.
I also think kind of it's a cleanup operation.
I think when you have DOJ lawyers and FBI agents from the D.C.
office going down there, potentially looking for anything they might think is incriminating them on Spygate, Russiagate.
I think a lot of the American people are going, wait, what's the justification for this?
And how on earth does this make us look?
In regards not only to the rule of law, which again, I would make the argument to the president I did, and to the rest of the people, they don't care about the rule of law.
They are intent on destroying political opponents by any means necessary.
I think the American people are starting to wake up over the last six years and now realize, oh my gosh, people like me, like you, we weren't crazy for saying this about the DOJ and the FBI six years ago, because now it's becoming very apparent.
No, I wrote books on this.
It looked like a prophecy.
Right.
To the normies, oh my gosh, this is not a good place that we are in as a country.
I have to tell you, though, I don't think it's going to get... it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Do you think it's going to help us electorally?
I think it will, actually.
If they are crazy and deranged enough to go as far as I think they might, I think it will absolutely help us.
But again, they are constantly trying to rig and manipulate elections.
I don't know if they're going to be able to rig and manipulate enough to prevent Majorities for Republicans in the House and the Senate in 2022.
But, you know, they're doing their best to hold on to power because that's their pressure.
I mean, the thing that you have to understand about the un-American left is they are deranged in their pursuit.
They're precious of political power, and they will do anything that they can to achieve it and hold on to it.
So I think anything and everything is on the table, and the American people need to understand that.
They are not interested in promoting and protecting the interests of the American people.
They are interested in power and will do whatever it takes to hold it.
Well, that leads to the conclusion that our next president needs to be a Republican, needs to be a based Republican who knows what's going on.
And look, I have been open in my praise and criticism of the ex-president.
I think his personnel decisions were a disaster, and I think at some level he still maintained a respect for the establishment.
He's very impressed by Harvard credentials, or Maggie Haberman works for the New York Times, how could she be evil?
He's a general!
How could he be terrible?
Has Trump learned his lesson?
Does he know what time it is?
I think he knows what time it is.
You're never going to see a Trump 2.0.
You're just not.
You'll see a Trump 1.5.
No, I think that's baked in.
But maybe a 1.02 Trump?
1.5.
We've had conversations about who's in charge of personnel.
They won.
Is he going to walk in with a list?
Uh, there are lists already being compiled.
Okay, because he came in with no Rolodex.
If you had Jem, that giant pop ball, he would have had a Rolodex.
Trump really didn't, which I'm not holding against it, but when you get an outsider, the problem is he's an outsider.
He's got advantages and disadvantages.
Well, he's an outsider.
Now he's not.
But don't forget, people were threatening, if you ever work for this guy's campaign, if you ever work inside of his presidency, you'll never work in D.C.
again.
That didn't work out.
There were a lot of people... Right, yeah, no, but...
I think there have been people that have finally figured out he knows what he wants.
I think the first six months could be completely epic.
He'll do PPO, Office of Presidential Personnel, right from day one.
And I think that it will be a declaration of war against the administrative state the day he's inaugurated.
And I couldn't be happier.
Look, I think that's what we need.
I think we need to figuratively loot and pillage.
I want to say, but the one thing that I've said to him and I want to make clear, he always talks about draining the swamp.
He has to understand that the foundation of the swamp is the administrative state.
Yes.
You break the state, you drain the swamp.
Yes.
And you break the state by... That's the dam.
That's the dam.
Yeah.
And if he can go and be aggressive and set the goals in place that devolve it, I think we could have real success.
Oh, I love hearing it.
Makes me want to have a cigarette and a cuddle.
Ned Ryan, author of The Adversaries, which I highly recommend, CEO of American Majority.
Nobody knows more about inside politics than he does.
Nobody's talked to the president this morning, so that was a special surprise.
I'm Kurt Schlichter singing for Dr. Seb Gorka here on American First.
Ted Cruz is supposed to call in, so let's see if that happens.
I hope he does, and enjoy Peter Dick.
That's going to be awesome.
What do I ask her?
I mean, what's really interesting?
My son, by the way.
Oh, I know.
You know her very well.
I do.
I think it's a phenomenal story.
This house mom who's from the steel industry decides that she's gonna run for office.
What state does she live in?
She's Michigan.
No, no, city.
Oh, city.
I was... I know what state she's in.
Norton Shores, Grand Haven.
Is it like a suburb?
Okay, it's like a suburb.
It's like 45 minutes west of Grand Rapids.
But it's a phenomenal story in which somebody that was 1% in the polls ends up winning the primary by 20 points.
And she's been out there making the argument, I'm here for the Michigan families.
We were abused by these lockdowns.
Our children were abused.
She's been involved.
Her dad owned a steel manufacturing business.
She knows very much about how the regulations have crushed business in Michigan.
And so, you know, the lockdowns, the regulations.
She's just awesome.
It's a great story.
All right.
I'm looking forward to it.
Huge fan.
All right.
All right.
Thanks, man.
Okay.
So we're going to take some calls.
So we're going to take some calls in.
Yes.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
.
Thank you. - Yeah.
You know him.
You love him.
He is Senator Ted Cruz, and he's joining us here on America First.
Good afternoon, Senator Cruz!
Kirk, good afternoon.
Good to be with you.
Thank you.
Tomorrow, you and I are both going out to Nevada to speak for our mutual friend, Adam Laxalt, who will make a great, great Senator out there.
How do you know Adam Laxalt?
Oh, I've known Adam for years, north of a decade.
He was Attorney General here in Nevada.
He's a strong, principled conservative.
He's running a fantastic campaign for Senate.
And I think he's going to defeat the incumbent Democrat.
I think Nevada's going to turn red.
And I think Adam Laxalt's race here in Nevada could easily be the tipping point that retires Chuck Schumer as Majority Leader.
I think it's a hugely important race here in Nevada.
Well, let's hope we can do what we can for Adam.
He became a personal friend with me when I was working with him on election integrity in Las Vegas in 2020.
We have a very short segment, so I want to get right to it.
Our theme today is resolved.
The disgraced FBI must be defunded and disbanded.
What do you think?
I think it needs a serious reorganization.
It is disgraceful what has happened to the FBI and to the Department of Justice, and I think this really started under Barack Obama.
We saw the deep politicization of the Department of Justice and FBI under Obama, and it metastasized when Trump was president and all of those Obama-hard partisans had burrowed into senior career positions, and from those positions, from the deep state, They waged war on President Trump, and now under Joe Biden it's gotten even worse.
And I think the crowning disgrace for DOJ and the FBI was 40 FBI agents sent in to raid President Trump's home in Mar-a-Lago.
It was nakedly partisan and political.
And I gotta say, you know, you think back to what Richard Nixon tried to do to the Department of Justice and the federal government Barack Obama and Joe Biden have succeeded in doing, which is turning them into political and partisan weapons to target their enemies.
Well, you know, Senator Cruz, I have not heard anybody in your body put it better than you just did.
I've heard several of your folks not be as outraged as I think they should be.
But words are words and actions are actions.
I think we're going to take back the Senate with Adam Laxalt leading the way.
What can we do as a majority in the Senate, but not a supermajority, with the executive branch held by the Democrats for the next two years so we can elect another Republican?
Well, there's several things we can do.
One of the first things we can do with the Republican Congress is engage in oversight.
And I think we need vigorous oversight.
We need hearings.
We need subpoenas.
We need oversight in the Senate Judiciary Committee of Merrick Garland's decision to send in the FBI to raid President Trump.
We need oversight of every agency under Biden that has been politicized.
I hope and expect that we will see vigorous oversight in both the House and Senate.
Secondly, if and when we take the Senate, that gives us the power to stop nominees.
And I think many of the nominees Joe Biden has put forward have been radical and extreme.
Judicial nominees and executive nominees.
If we have a Republican majority, I hope and expect that majority will refuse to confirm any radicals put forth by Joe Biden.
Additionally, I think we ought to use the power of the purse in particular.
To go after this latest bill the Democrats ran through that creates 87,000 new IRS agents designed to descend like locusts and harass small businesses and families and conservatives across this country.
And I think Republicans, when we have the majority, should say, we will not fund even one penny that goes to these 87,000 new IRS agents designed to attack and harass American citizens.
Well, Senator Cruz, that's what I call leadership.
Now, I have a little suggestion I want to throw out there, see what you think, because oversight is very important.
But you are also in Washington, D.C., which is 95% Democrat, and seems to have a little problem with the judiciary in that Republicans get convicted, Democrats, in the rare case they're charged, don't.
Maybe take your oversight show on the road.
So I think it's a terrific idea.
I think we'd have to examine the legality in terms of issuing subpoenas.
have testimony, including deposition testimony, in other venues where if they're going to, well, fail to produce documents or commit perjury, you might actually be able to get a conviction.
What do you think of that, Senator Cruz?
So I think it's a terrific idea.
I think we'd have to examine the legality in terms of issuing subpoenas.
I have not examined that procedural question.
But in terms of field hearings on the road, I think that makes a lot of sense.
And a natural place to start is hearings on our southern border about the absolute chaos created by Joe Biden.
And I believe, Kurt, one of the very first priorities of a Republican Congress is the Secretary of Homeland Security.
And if and when that happens, and I think it'll happen, The Senate ought to conduct a long, careful trial... Oh, and I'm sorry, Senator Cruz, we have a heartbreak.
I will see you tomorrow.
That's Senator Ted Cruz, great American.
This is America First with Kurt Schley.
Before he called in, Banks, as people called to say, the vote schedule not changed.
We will not be able to make it alive.
Oh, that's a moment.
But we sure have Hanson and Dixon, so plenty of people to fill up the third hour with.
I'll get Bates on, whatchamacallit, Hewitt.
Okay, can you send me the... Oh.
I think I just did, yeah.
It's down to two callers now, I believe was the last one I sent you.
Alright, I will do the calls, and then I will do my three reads, including the long car.
Yeah.
Or do you want to start with the reads, or do you want to start with the calls?
No, I'm going to start with the reads, and ask for calls.
I do the reads, calls come in, and then I can update those.
I'll unblock the lines then.
Alrighty.
That was good.
I really like that.
Just so you're aware, there's a specific intro for this segment.
Yes, the car firearms intro.
That's right.
Yeah.
Just a heads up.
And then once that's done, we'll kick it over to you.
So, yeah.
So probably start with the car read for the consistency.
I'll do the car read and I'll just go through all three.
Awesome.
Wonderful.
All right.
Two and a half minutes.
Almost 900 people watching on Rumble Live.
Those are good numbers.
You guys like Ted Cruz.
That was good.
Are they liking Ted?
Yeah.
Also another question from chat for you from another regular.
His name is Buck Fiden.
He says, Kurt, local panhandler slash drug dealer slash scumbag says he's a retired lieutenant colonel after six years in the Marines.
Obviously lying.
What is the fastest anyone has become lieutenant colonel?
Wait, who?
He's just saying some local panhandler in his area.
Yeah, probably.
It's about if you're under 13 or 14 years, it's usually more.
You're probably Not.
Alright.
Okay, that's somebody else's.
All right.
Send me a little.
He did a fantastic job and the audience loved him.
Period.
We got one more caller on the line sending it to you now.
He's a regular.
Uh-huh.
One minute.
One minute.
Yeah, I was pretty happy with Cruz.
I thought he was really good.
Oh yeah.
Are we, uh, going out?
Uh, yeah, we are on humble right now.
Okay, well, you guys are hearing behind the scenes.
We talk about you guests.
I mean, if you're a stiff, I'm going to say turn off the mic.
Uh, no, I thought he was great.
He was sharp.
Um, and I threw, I threw a couple at him that, uh, he was like, I likely admitted, well, I haven't looked at that idea yet.
Okay, great.
I mean, he's done... I mean,
he's done... he's done...
I mean, he's done...
he's done...
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The disgraced FBI must be disbanded or defunded.
Thank you.
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And I am all over that.
Brent, in Los Angeles, what say you about the FBI?
Disband it or celebrate it?
Well, Commander Kurt, today you have earned a promotion.
Whoa!
And before disbanding... Actually, if I was a commander, that would be a demotion, because that's a no-five.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And I'm not in the Navy.
Well, General Kurt, you have to be, Kurt.
No, no, no!
We don't want that.
Okay, but I was thinking, before disbanding, defunding, bulldozing, and sowing the earth of the FBI with salt, I want to provide one week of reflection and repentance to the possibly still-righteous patriotic agents in the once-noble and honorable Bureau of My Youth.
And those agents who still desire to stand allegiance to God and America's Constitution must come forth immediately as patriots to purge every apple of anarchy and predation from within their polluted, putrid cesspool.
Wow!
That was very extensive, Brent in Los Angeles.
Thank you very much.
I don't know how to disagree.
Hey, Nick from New Jersey has been waiting forever, and I want to get to him.
Nick, welcome to America First.
Hey sir, I was wondering if you saw the decision on Wednesday from the panel in San Francisco.
Roll back the Ferris Doctrine.
Allow a female service member to sue her boss for sexual assault.
What say you?
Wow!
Wow!
I have to put on my lawyer hat and read that.
The Ferris Doctrine essentially says military people can't sue the military or certain kind of military contractors.
And that's a very old rule.
This would be revolutionary if it comes out as you say so.
When I'm flying out to see Adam Laxalt tomorrow, I'll be speaking for him and his—tomorrow at the Basque Fry near Reno.
The headliner is Ted Cruz.
See, he's kind of like the Rolling—if this was like the Monsters of Conservatism, he'd be like the Rolling Stones, and I would be Foghat.
But I will read it on the airplane.
Thank you, Nick in New Jersey.
That's important news.
Phil S.
Are you in Philly?
Yes, good afternoon, sir.
Thanks for taking my call.
Well, thanks for having me.
First of all, how's Dr. Oz doing in your neighborhood?
Well, we haven't heard a peep out of Dr. Oz.
Really?
Are you there, Phil in Philly?
Phil in Philly has vanished.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You're back.
Go ahead, Phil in Philly.
Go ahead.
Okay.
We haven't heard a peep out of Dr. Oz at all, and he's taken all the Trump endorsements off his website, just so everybody knows that.
I mean, it's just – oh, God.
We've got a mess going on.
I have been in touch with Selena Zito, who knows Pennsylvania pretty well, tells me Dr. Oz is actually out on the ground meeting people.
He's not on the air.
Apparently he's going up back on the air early October.
But she swears up and down and she's been traveling with him.
He's going there trying to rebuild things.
And thank you Phil and Philly.
I know that Carla Sands and Dave McCormick, who were both running against him, I spoke to Carla Sanchez the other day.
I've talked to Dave McCormick.
They both say they're going to be out there stumping for him.
So you guys in Philadelphia, you know, stay strong.
Vote for Dr. Oz.
Let's get that in there.
Let's get him in the Senate.
We need him.
I'm Kurt Schlichter.
This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
Stick around.
We got more to come.
Mike's live.
Hey, have I burned through all my calls?
You burn through calls, and several more take their place, like cutting off the heads of Hydra.
It's a full call board again.
Hey, can you guys give Jim Hansen a call, see if he wants to come on early, and then maybe I hold him over?
Yeah, I'll do that right now.
Yeah, he's gonna say yes, because he's Jim Hansen.
Alright, so I've got two more reads to do, end of next hour, and this hour I just got...
This is just his last segment, 3.50.
Yeah, I got about three minutes.
Do we have any calls back yet?
Yeah, we do.
I haven't vetted some of them, but I have vetted a couple.
So I'll send you this, because it's moving wild.
OK, so we've got Bill in Glendale and Brian in Sacramento.
Yes, those are still on the line.
I haven't fielded the rest.
And Jim says yes, he can come on at 5.
OK.
Awesome.
All right.
You mean two?
California time's the only correct time.
Yes, that's right, California.
Yes, that's right.
Sorry, we're on the East Coast.
Yes, 2 p.m., 2 p.m.
I still have family in California, so I have to keep thinking about the West Coast time zone every now and then.
Oh my gosh, during the book tour, and I literally did 100 media hits.
I'm trying constantly to balance, is this Eastern?
You know, and I get double booked, and people are getting angry.
Especially when I'm booking, like, Seb for interviews.
Most of them are on Eastern Time, but every now and then I just always throw an EST just to make sure people know what I'm talking about.
Always gotta do.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
My poor Google Calendar.
That throws me off!
When I book something, like, on the West Coast, like, for Seb.
It'll automatically put it Pacific Time.
I know.
Ugh.
Yeah, that bothers me.
Yeah, I've gotta double-check all the time.
I should set up a little file for all my emails, and then it's easier to search them.
Mm-hmm.
45 seconds.
I'm gonna pimp my book, I think.
By all means.
Your friend will be back, right?
Yeah.
All righty.
We'll have that picture ready to show on screen when you talk about it.
35 seconds.
All right.
And the splitto.
Come on, Bob.
Come on, Bob.
Come on, Bob. Bob.
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And you'll hear, during the break, you'll hear me and Jim Hansen talking behind the scenes.
That's going to be epic!
You know, you can see the picture, the cover, and I'm pointing at you, and I look very, very stern.
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I'd like to take Bill in Glendale, California.
Bill, you have issues with the FBI.
Yes, Colonel Slicker, I surely do.
Thank you for... Well... What do you think we ought to do about it?
Defund and disband, or give them a participation trophy?
I think we ought to just get rid of the whole thing.
Was that J. Edgar Hoover's little baby?
That was J. Edgar Hoover's little baby.
Look, I liked them when they were at least open enough to have the cocktail dress pool parties over at Clyde Tolson's house.
Well, it's very interesting about a lot of these things now.
You know, look, I'm not judging who they are, and I don't want to misgender anyone who's involved in the FBI.
All I have to say is I haven't seen any of the good apples lately.
Where are the good apples?
Well, it's very interesting about a lot of these things now.
They're going to gear up the IRS now with a whole bunch of new members.
You heard Ted Cruz right here on America First say, you know, if I am my way, we're not giving them a dime to do that.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Ted Cruz is based, huh?
U.S.
Constitution, Article 169, clause 4, said there's no capitation or other tax to be laid.
And there's several places about that tax.
Well, look, thank you very much for the call, Bill.
Well, um...
We are heading to the end of another hour, but man, you've got to stick around and watch us on Rumble, because I'm having Jim Hansen on.
We're going to open the mics.
It's going to be insane, because he's a Special Forces guy.
He's kooky.
He's wacky.
Here on America First, I'm Kurt Schlichter.
Stick around.
Stick around.
Okay, Kurt, you there?
I know.
I am here.
Oh my gosh.
Awesome.
Alright, so we want to wait for a bit before calling Hanson?
No, I'm calling Hanson.
Alright, dialed up on channel 2 there, John.
Man, I just saw Jeffrey Toobin has announced that after 20 years he's leaving CNN.
Oh, he gets to leave voluntarily.
Man, what clown world.
I'm so over it.
Set up a split-screen guy of Skype if you wanted to.
Oh, he's got a tweet.
Uh-oh.
He has a tweet.
I'm going to talk about that with Hanson.
Oh, goodness gracious.
Jeffrey Toobin.
Alright.
We're dialing him up now.
Still ringing.
Mr. Do-It-Yourselfer.
We got a man.
Hey, is that me?
Hey!
Let's do this.
Hey, man, we gotta talk about Jeffrey Toobin's big announcement.
Oh, dude, I knew you were gonna go.
I did gay orgies with Ned, and now Toobin zooming with you.
Hey.
Scoobin zoobin.
We did not get to orgies with Ned.
Hold on, man, I'm getting my ears in.
Hey, I might hold you over this segment just because we want to.
All right.
You're so professional.
Putting these headphones.
I've started using my headphones again just at home.
These are nice in-ear monitors, man.
That's what you need to get.
I have that.
I look like a Secret Service agent, except I'm not drunk with a Columbian hooker.
Hillary said that was a lie, man.
Come on.
She wasn't Colombian.
She's from Suriname.
Same thing.
I like saying Suriname.
Vienna.
Vienna.
Suriname.
Dude, have you done the warrant yet?
What do you want to talk about?
We can do two.
Hang on a second.
Jim, can you move a bit to your right?
Is the warrant out?
Yeah, I'm trying to find my, uh, hold on.
Oh, you can break the news.
I haven't seen that.
I've been, I've been in the cubicle.
It's espionage act.
They got espionage act in there.
All right.
So for the two shot, where do I need to be?
I need to be where?
Like here?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's weird.
Hold on.
I'm glad you dressed up for it, by the way.
Shut up.
You guys are going to like this.
Someone in chat says, can you keep Jim on for the whole hour?
That would be fun.
It would be a lot because I got Tudor Dixon coming.
That's right.
We do have Tudor Dixon.
Tudor Dixon needs to win in Michigan, so we can we can let her have some fun.
All right.
She comes highly recommended by the the Ned.
Mm hmm.
All right.
I'm going.
That's good enough for me.
Now, how's that?
Otherwise, that's good for the two shot.
I think.
Oh, there we go.
Awesome.
There we are.
Four minutes.
Four minutes?
That is, uh, eight Bulwark Wedding Nights.
That's my new, uh, my new unit of time.
Temporal units.
Hey man, I'm off to, um, off to Nevada.
I'm gonna speak at this, uh, rally for, uh, oh, I like the Disney hat.
Is that your way of saying DeSantis 2024?
Because everything's a dog whistle.
Everything's a dog whistle.
No, I'm going out there.
Cruz is speaking.
He's the headliner.
I'm just a liner.
We're going to start with Toobin, though, before we get anywhere else.
Then we'll get to the Warrant.
The big news is Toobin.
And then I'm going to say something along the lines of, speaking of self-pleasuring, tell me about the warrant.
Jeffrey Toobin without the dignity.
I mean, it doesn't actually say anything, but it shows that they wanted a charge that they could actually make criminal. - And it comes out to you have possession of documents?
It's under the Espionage Act.
It's the intentionally Taking, uh, defense information is what it's, what they're saying.
Oh, interesting.
So how are they going to establish intent?
Are they, are they, are they saying a D well, I mean, a detailed oriented guy like Donald Trump probably packed his own stuff.
Well, I mean, it would be a Washington jury though, even though isn't he possessing it in Florida?
Yeah.
And I think the trial would have to be down there.
There won't be a trial in the next two years, though.
I will gladly vote for him while he's under indictment, and then he pardons himself.
Oh, my God.
Dude, there's so much to this.
How do you even keep track of all the craziness?
You know, I just go with it.
This is gonna be great.
Well, I'm stunned.
It's such an own goal.
The thing is, they're hoping they can lie about what they found.
I thought it was nuclear secrets!
They've got the single integrated operational plan dog-eared.
It's got lots of notes in it.
Because, like I said, Trump's a detail-oriented, voracious reader guy.
And, of course, he keeps it under Melania's panties in the undies drawer.
I mean, come on, this is a guy who wouldn't even read a presidential daily brief.
This is a guy who literally, when he read my town hall column explaining why he shouldn't run, as opposed to the one that said why he should, had it printed out for him.
Right.
But he signed it and sent it to me.
I'm going to put it up in the House.
Dude, that's a win.
I mean, that's a win for sure right there.
Well, I'm still the guy who gave them the line about the Kurds at Normandy.
So, that was my other... Things that you'll go down in history for?
Yeah.
I'm just doing this to make them freak out that I'm gonna lose a shot.
Yeah, and then... My favorite was the dumb people who go, you know, the Kurds were very far away from Normandy.
Relatively speaking.
It's stunning, dude.
I mean, I can't keep up.
Every day, I think there's no way it could be dumber than yesterday.
everything's so insanely stupid with these people it's stunning dude i mean i can't keep up i every day i think there's no way it could be dumber than yesterday and then every day welcome to america first with the one and
only special guest host Colonel Kurt Schlechter. .
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
I am Kurt Schlichter, Senior Columnist at TownHall.com, author of the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative action novels, and the new non-fiction bestseller, We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
I am a nude Los Angeles trial lawyer.
I am a retired Army colonel.
Please don't hold that against me.
I am here with a very close personal friend, Special Forces Weapon Non-Commissioned Officer, and all-around conservative bad rear end, because I want to make sure I'm FCC compliant.
Jim Hanson.
Jim, you're there!
Yeah, and you better watch out, because if we drop one of the seven words you can't say, I'm sure the black helicopters will be here any second.
Well, look, I pride myself on the FCC compliance.
I noticed the Disney sign on your hat.
Is that a subtle signal to own the libs?
I am just pointing out that there's a guy in Florida and another guy in Florida, and either one of them would be a better president than the clown we have right now.
Well, before we get to that, and we are going to get to that, because I already know I'm keeping you over a segment because we have so much to talk about.
News alert from Jeffrey Toobin.
I'm going to read the tweet.
Friends, I've decided after 20 years I'm leaving CNN after my vacation.
It was great to spend my last day on air with pals Wolf, Anderson, and Dawn.
Love all my former colleagues.
Watch for my next book on some nonsense.
And I think he's probably getting our job as the spokesman for the Do It Yourself Coalition.
I just wanted to get that out there.
Do you have a reaction to Han Solo going off to his own personal Tatooine?
I would just like to point out that I am actually wearing pants in this shot.
Well, that puts you ahead of Jeffrey Toobin.
I will continue to use his name as a verb.
Okay, now we've got, you've got a news flash for us, because I have been cooped up in here in this command post in Glendale, California, guest hosting for the great Dr. Sebastian Gorka, and I didn't hear about it, apparently the warrant has dropped!
What is the word?
Oh my god, and you know what?
It turns out that they were actually investigating him for copyright infringement of all of the Disney characters.
So that's what it was actually about.
That's why I'm wearing the hat.
I hear Disney's hell on intellectual property.
They caught him selling counterfeit mouse gear.
Yeah.
He was having it produced in the Soviet Union, or in Russia.
You know what, he's Putin's pet!
No, as it turns out, they had three particular pieces of U.S.
code they cited.
The only one that actually matters, two of them were garbage.
The one that they're going to actually use to try and stick it to him, and I'm going to read it, is gathering, transmitting, or losing defense information.
Now, the interesting thing is that's part of the Espionage Act.
So this is literally one of the old... So they get to say, Espionage Act!
Trump loses!
Exactly, that was the whole point.
No, and it doesn't matter whether it's actually applicable or any of that.
This whole thing is designed to be a series of headlines, and they've been getting exactly the ones they wanted, and they got to throw nukes in there, you know, when it looked like classified wasn't good.
I think they got mocked, and of course, I knew this, you know, you had told me this during the break, which is why I opened with a very appropriate reference to Jeffrey Toobin.
Because I think there's a lot of similarities between his hobbies and what's going on with this FBI search.
In fact, what they're saying is that Donald Trump intentionally somehow took defense information, nuclear information, because he's got the single integrated operational plan, you know, in the undies drawer in Melania's room.
It's dog-eared.
He's highlighted it because he's a voracious reader.
Oh, you know what else they had?
They found that he had a copy of the Anarchist Cookbook.
And I think he was actually making backyard nukes down there at Mar-a-Lago.
That's what they were really after.
And then he was going to use Saudi money to fund that so he could have a weapons program and share those with Russia.
And the saucer people.
You know, I love the idea that Mar-a-Lago is like a volcano lair, and he's down there and there's a bunch of technicians in their jumpsuits with, uh, you know, little, uh, schmeisers, uh, as, uh, you know, he sits on his, uh, throne stroking his cat, saying, uh, No, Mr. Bond, I want you to- No, Mr. Bodden, I want you to resign.
Um- You know what's funny?
I actually have a picture of Seb.
I've got a picture of Seb in my house with my wife's white cat sitting on his lap while he's wearing a white suit.
So literally, it's that exact picture.
You know, Seb Gorka, it could be that famous James Edward Olmos shot in Miami Vice, where he's like all white on the beach and he's kind of, well, God, I'm dating myself, much like Jeffrey Toobin.
Anyway, look, the idea that Trump intentionally kept some... If you go to D.C.
and you get a D.C.
jury, which is 95% Democrat, that's like a guaranteed conviction.
If it's possessing this stuff, well, doesn't he possess it in southern Florida, which would mean venue there?
I'm thinking that's going to be something that drags this out for two or three years.
I think what they want, though, I think, is to get an indictment prior to the midterms, because they think that's actually going to make, you know, advantageous for the Democrat candidates.
I don't think that.
Ken Ryan certainly doesn't think it is.
I am unconvinced, because I think normal people are going to go, are you telling me Donald Trump knows what was packed?
Because he doesn't seem like a packing kind of guy.
Well, and the whole point is, is it actually a classified document if he says he declassified it?
And the law seems to say no.
So they don't actually have a crime.
They don't have a good plan to use this supposed non-crime to attack him.
And I think this ends up being one of the greatest own goals in recent political history.
And I hope they keep going.
It's making them look like fools.
I think they, you know, look, right now I only have anecdotal evidence, but what I'm seeing is normal people, who don't pay attention to this stuff, and they want to do the PTA and go to their church and bowling and whatever, people who aren't obsessed with politics like you and I and the audience are, do.
But they remember enough from high school civics where they're thinking, This doesn't sound right.
This doesn't sound right.
Sending guys with guns to your political opponent's house to try and find something?
I mean, you know, he's the president.
If he's got something that says, hey, you know, America has 20 infantry divisions, you know, okay.
It's not like he has it on a server in the toilet that can be downloaded by Chinese intelligence.
Well, and Obama hauled off how many millions of documents that nobody looked at because they weren't going to be something that could be used against him politically by our team.
And that's the real difference here, is that the left has created now a precedent that they're not going to like.
You know, now that the precedent is anything is politically attackable, then it's up to our team to go ahead and make them pay.
I've been discussing this a lot lately.
The new rule that changed is not... Well, we're going to frame them too.
We are not going to frame anybody.
The new rule is we are not going to be reticent about using the full power of law enforcement without discretion against our political enemies.
Because we always hear about prosecutorial discretion.
That's why two million people can come across the border and we prosecutionally discret them not being prosecuted.
No, normally you would go, OK, yeah, maybe he ran a stoplight, but he's also a major politician in your party.
And it kind of looks a little chicken scratch to to go bust him for that.
Or I don't know, the husband gets hammered and rams into another car.
Maybe we're not going to treat him like everyone else.
And it ain't right, but in the cosmic sense, but in the practical sense, you don't want to be prosecuting the other side unless you come across them.
They're standing over an altar with like a dripping dagger and a sacrificed body, okay?
And that's the difference.
Our guys have always said, oh, we want to Maintain the moral high ground.
We want to be the good ones.
The problem is, while we're doing that, they're doing exactly what you said.
They're going after anybody and everything.
Even before they didn't really do that, because they've never done it before, but they've crossed a bunch of lines.
And I gotta say, if I'm a Democrat, I'm thinking, you know, can I stand that kind of scrutiny?
Because all us conservatives, most of us are kind of like, yeah, they're going to come after us, so I want to be perfect.
You know?
I mean, I want to be absolutely perfect.
No, my wife and I went through a look at our personal finances and everything else because of what we do to make sure that we're bulletproof because we know they're coming.
Oh yeah!
But they've never had to feel that.
Like you said, they've never had that fear that the power of the state would be used against them because they are the state.
You know, l'etat c'est moi.
Well, the deep state is the political left and we need to go ahead and empty enough seats.
Yeah, I just did French.
That's pretty bad.
It was awful.
We need to use it against them so that the The fear is in their side, because we don't want this.
You know, our team doesn't want to play this way, but they're not going to stop until we make them feel the pain.
Yeah, look, if you don't like this, then the answer is not to just take it like the prettiest boy on the cell block.
The answer is to find the biggest guy in the prison cafeteria and smash him across the face with the hard edge of the metal meal tray.
It's prison rules, baby.
Prison rules here on America First.
Personal experience?
Yes.
It's America First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I'm holding Jim Hansen, Executive Director of America Matters, over.
And he's got a book, too.
We're going to talk about that.
Stick around.
All right, Mike's live, gentlemen.
What was that bumper music, dude?
You know what you got to do?
If you don't tell them, they're going to give you like this 80s soft rock.
I don't get any options.
On Hewitt, I pick it all.
Serious?
I pick all the.
Well, that's what Jim is when he gets those.
He always has requests for like, you know, specific songs.
I give him a list.
Oh, you want me to give you a list next time?
You should just tell him to use my list.
It's better.
Next time.
I'll curate my own there, Jim.
They asked me my musical choice for when I come out on stage tomorrow in Reno at this thing.
And I said, I want the Motorhead cover of David Bowie's Heroes.
.
Ooh.
To walk out on, right?
That's a nicely obscure one.
That's... but loud.
Three minutes.
Yeah.
Right on.
All the little donor women?
They're gonna be... They're gonna be intrigued.
That's gonna get them all hot and bothered?
That's why Irina's here.
They're all Lemmy fans?
Lemmy.
I'm the Lemmy of conservatism.
Lemmy Kurt Meister.
Dude, you gotta get that big thing on the side of your face.
Well, I got the Cavs, Stetson.
What the hell, dude?
I have the Cavalry, Stetson, already.
Yeah, well, there you go.
Ah, that's true.
See?
A little message for the two of you from a Super Chat.
Someone donated $5 on Rumble.
GasStationSushi26.
He says, Colonel Schlichter, you are a hilarious comedian.
Colonel Hanson, you sing and play the guitar magnificently.
You shouldn't insult Jim like that.
Yeah, that's a big mistake there, Mr. Schlichter.
I'm a colonel in my own militia, though.
I look forward to seeing... I'm not sure what rank I'm gonna have when I'm a Warlord.
That's what I need.
Well, you get the East Coast, I get the West Coast.
Right, but I mean, am I gonna be, uh, is Warlord your title?
Is that your rank?
No, I want Warlord.
Warrior of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla.
Exactly.
I am greatly disappointed.
Nobody leaves alive.
I just want that thing from... You wanted to take that rich tank of gas.
I want the Mad Max Thunder Road guitar drop.
What's a puny plan?
Thank you.
I'm doing, uh, the Kurt Mungus.
Sushi's comment finished up.
I want the guitar van thing.
You want that guitar thing?
From the fourth one, yeah.
Yeah, I just want to say, uh, I just say, if it's all the same to you, I'll draw that tanka.
Can never get enough of Mad Max references.
That's just too good.
And I know you're deep in the cut, because for you it was Mad Max 2 instead of Road Warrior.
So I knew that you were deep inside.
Hey, if your references aren't obscure, I like the ones where there's only one person, even in the Rumble chat, that knows what the hell we're talking about.
One of the greatest moments of my life was when I stumped Dennis Miller.
I said that something was shorter than the track list of greatest hits of Terry Jacks.
Seasons in the Sun!
Yeah!
You got it!
He was like, what, is that Wanted Soldier?
I go, no!
Seasons in the Sun!
He goes, you got me.
All right, kid.
You're sparky.
30 seconds.
Shorter than the track list of greatest hits.
Shorter than the track list of greatest hits.
Shorter than the track list of greatest hits.
Word up!
This is Kurt Schlichter, guest host on America First.
Sitting in for Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I'm here with my pal, Jim Hanson of America Matters, and he is an author.
He is the author of Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
Look at that.
If you're on Rumble, you can see who's that crazy kid who gave it a blurb at the top.
It's me, the K-Dawg.
I have an incredible amount of street credibility.
Jim, welcome back to America First.
Hey, dude.
You know, I actually had to tweet out yesterday to all the feds that they need to read not just the title, but the subtitle, which says, without firing a shot, before they send the black helicopters to my house, pick me up as one of the conservative extremists.
You know, I've been hearing rumors that there's messages going out to FBI offices where they're supposed to, like, keep an eye on us conservative activists, say we're insurrectionists!
I hate to play into their hands, but literally they're trying to provoke a reaction.
Part of the reason they're doing this is to get somebody to do something stupid, to get people to say things that justify the continued abuse of power that they're doing under their domestic terror stuff.
So they want us to say something.
And I like how everybody was like, nah, I'm going with Cold Fury.
And anybody on the web, right, who was like, God, we gotta get us a pitchfork!
It's always like an anonymous account that like started two weeks ago.
It's got like 45 people.
Come on!
Do an insurrection, you conservative patriot people!
And it's like, everyone's like, fad!
Fad!
It's like when Ray Epps was going on January 5th in the crowd.
Ray Epps is like, hey, we should storm the Capitol!
And everybody's like, Fed!
Fed!
Shut up, jerk!
Dude, I'm going to do so much worse to them than fighting on their turf.
The idea of some sort of battle against the armed forces.
No.
I'm going to hit you where it hurts.
I'm going to hit you at the ballot box.
Right in the Joneses, if you know what I'm saying.
And the pocketbook.
And the law, you know.
And the law, man.
Hit him in the court.
Man, you guys don't know what's coming in November.
Now, I had Ted Cruz on here on America First a few minutes ago, and he talked about the power of the purse.
We're not funding 87,000 IRS guys.
She's not getting any money for it.
And I don't think they're going to work for free.
I think you'll like this idea, and I want to throw it out for you.
Oversight is very important, but you don't want to do it in D.C.
because you have a jury pool in D.C.
that will never convict Democrats.
They always convict Republicans.
That's assuming it ever gets brought.
But, you know, statute of limitations!
The next Republican administration can handle it.
But you go and you do the testimony out in the hinterland.
You take the show on the road.
You do your subpoenas from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
You have production in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
And they have testimony in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Kinda, I guess that's where the law's broken.
That's where you gotta have your trial.
Doesn't that, wouldn't that send a cold, icy chill down their, you know, little yellow spines?
They would argue that they can't face a jury of their peers there because there are no swap creatures in those locations.
So I wonder if they'd actually get some judge to move the venue on that.
That's a beautiful idea, and I think it's part of the overall play we have to make.
We have to use every piece of power they've used against us, right back at them.
So shut off their funding, sue them every place that's got a docket, and make them pay.
Yeah, but the limit is, we are not going to do one thing that they have shown they are willing to do.
We're not going to frame anybody.
Of course, we don't have to, because they're actually committing crimes, and our guys aren't!
Yeah, it seems kind of funny.
Six years of chasing Trump around with the same pile of accusations in a different flavor and they've got a grand total.
How many convictions on him in six years?
I think it's somewhere around zero.
And they can't stop.
They're addicted to it.
They're addicted to failure.
What's the potential, what percentage chance do you give of them indicting the president?
Keeping in mind it's obviously going to be nonsense.
I think they're going to do it.
I don't know, I don't know why 95%.
Yeah, I don't know why you take this, because you've already taken the political hit for running a raid with armed agents on a former president's private residence.
Once you've done that, the indictment piece, and it's not like it slowed him down, Well, look, I think it's bad.
I think some Republicans kind of went, eh.
Now, of course, you had McConnell go, well, I'm here to talk about the flood.
And, of course, Tim Scott is a very nice cat.
Nice guy.
Wouldn't mind him as a neighbor.
You know, hey, I need you to jumpstart my BMW.
You know, he'd come over in his boxers and do it.
Nice guy.
Like him.
Not a wartime concierge.
He starts off on CBS Morning News going, well, we have to see what the facts are.
No, no, no, you don't.
There are no facts.
It's a lie.
They spent six years trying to frame him.
What's the chance that this time they got it?
Such as you have to give them the benefit of the doubt rather than saying the hell with these...
Yeah, the odds of that are zero.
It's the dumbest thing you could do at this point.
But I think that, look, they're going, OK, the hit's here.
We can kind of relax.
All right, maybe relax.
If they indict him, I think it forces a lot of these soft Republicans to radicalize.
And I think a lot of normal people are like, what the hell are you talking about?
The president's not allowed to have, you know, whatever, and it's going to be, you know what gets classified, right?
You know, the kind of thing that gets classified, and it's like nonsense, and you're like, I've read more detailed intelligence analyses in time.
I think normal people are going to go, you know, I'm no political scientist, and I kind of vaguely remember civics, and this wasn't in it.
It's not a good idea.
And the idea – well, the problem they have is now having done it, I think they're stuck because if they don't – they've got to come up with something.
And it's not hard.
The pretext of saying we found classified information that he shouldn't have had.
You don't have to convict.
And why would they do it if they're not going to indict?
They're not going to go to that next step.
They didn't need the information back.
They didn't actually think he's got nuke information that the Saudis paid him to give to Putin, all right?
Which is the theory the left is trying to advance.
Is that the new one?
Yeah, and that's just absolute garbage.
Jared Kushner got money for his hedge fund from the Saudis, but it was really a payoff, and they literally think it happened at Trump's golf tournament up in New Jersey last week.
Yeah, I once again referenced Jeffrey Toobin.
Right.
They either indict him or they look like fools.
Well, they already look like fools, but I think they will further radicalize Republicans.
And the way they win is frog boiling.
Slow, incremental change.
But we've got to understand that our enemies are dumb.
These are not smart people.
These are people who inherited their power and position.
They're trying to hold on to it because they can't build anything on their own.
It's not like they're cunning criminal masterminds.
They're dumb people.
They're also not used to being opposed.
That's just it.
Because they've been running the levers of power and they are the deep state permanent bureaucracy, they're not used to our team being able to use that against them.
So as soon as we get back in any kind of power and start with power of the purse and investigations after the midterms, But when we get a Republican president in there, he's got to go ahead and use that power and go ahead and show them that this is no longer... Because they did part of this was to freeze our team and to put fear on our team.
And we got to put it back in there.
Yeah, I don't see anybody afraid.
I see a lot of people who are very, very angry.
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Okay.
Mike's live.
First thing, Kurt, we have Miss Dixon on the line.
Great.
And also I texted Kevin to let him know, and he said he could get someone in the studio in the building to check it out.
Uh, there might be... Your audio's peaking a little bit, so they might... That's because I'm shouting.
...send someone to possibly turn the gain down on the mic.
That might help a little bit.
Oh, but she's on the line right now, so... I don't know what a gain is.
I'm gonna jump, brother.
You talk to the tutor.
Audio's playing.
I'll give you a call next week.
We'll wrap.
Alrighty.
And you want the mics off for Ms.
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These guys brought them on themselves.
Look, here at America First, we love America First candidates, and that's why I'm so excited to bring you the candidate for the governor of the great state of Michigan, an America First candidate who is going to liberate it from the Stepford governor, Tudor Dixon.
Tudor, welcome to America First!
Thank you for having me.
Well, look, I have a bone to pick with you because offline we were talking and you insist that Governor Whitmer is the worst governor in the United States, but I'm a resident of California.
I think my governor hairstyle is the worst.
How bad is Governor Gretchen Whitmer?
You know, your governor breaks the rules and goes to the French Laundry.
Our governor breaks the rules and goes to the Landshark.
You know, this is a little bit different.
That's Michigan-style breaking the rules.
But we had... I mean, that was one time.
She broke the rules over and over again.
Even her husband tried to break her rules.
I shouldn't say the rules.
Her rules.
Make random, bizarre, horrible rules for the people to live under, and then don't live under them yourself.
Well, isn't that kind of typical of our garbage ruling class?
They create all these rules and then ignore them.
You know, we're all supposed to eat bugs and ride on smelly buses while they take flights over to Davos.
You know, you're running for as a state governor.
Do you feel that you're still part of the resistance to this kind of ruling class nonsense?
Absolutely.
So we have a situation here in Michigan where the ruling class, Gretchen Whitmer, she has never been a part of the private sector and she has destroyed the state because of that.
So I come from the manufacturing world.
We had a steel foundry.
I spent much of my career on the shop floor.
I understand what our people in the state go through every single day and small business owners go through.
It was tough under Granholm.
But now with Whitmer, she has created this bureaucracy that is attacking the people of the state.
Going after businesses, shutting them down, fining them, over-regulating them.
And you might think that I sound like I'm talking about COVID.
No!
This is happening every single day.
Every business I go to says we are being crushed under her rule.
You've probably noticed that the automotive industry is building a lot of new plants.
And they're not in the state of Michigan.
And when I talk to them, they say, it's too hard to do business there.
It's too challenging for our legacy industry, for our largest industry, to come back to the state and build new factories because we make it, our state government, Gretchen Whitmer, makes it too hard for them to do so.
That's devastating.
The future effect of that happening, of automotive leaving Michigan, is catastrophic.
But she goes beyond that.
She's even more radical than Justin Trudeau because she's trying to shut down a pipeline in the state of Michigan.
And Justin Trudeau is telling her, you can't shut down this pipeline.
Think about that.
Not only are we killing our businesses, but she's willing to go even further and kill our energy industry and kill our businesses by not allowing us to have energy.
Increase the cost of our flights and cause the people of Michigan to either not be able to heat their homes or have to pay, what, four times the cost to heat their homes when we're already suffering from inflation?
This is the moment when people like me who come out of the private sector, who've spent most of my life in manufacturing, and then communications say, you know what?
We are not going to allow these people who have been politicians and just reaching for more power every single day to continue their reign.
She's headed to Washington, D.C.
if I don't stop her, so I'm going to stop her.
Well, Tudor Dixon, that's good to hear.
Here's the thing.
You've got two things to do to win this.
First of all, you have to unite the Republican Party, because you had a tough primary, which you went from who's she to winner.
That's amazing.
But you have to reunite the Republican Party, then you've got to take down the Democrat machine.
How are you going to do these two things?
Well, we've had a lot of help uniting the party because we've had some of the folks that have been working in the Republican circles for years come out and support us, and we've had Donald Trump come out and support our campaign.
And that's done a lot to bring the entire party together in Michigan in a way.
That I don't think other states really have that right now.
So we have this great group.
I mean, we were at one of our county conventions last night.
Everyone is jazzed.
Oh, we're breaking... Real quick, how can we help you, Tudor?
I hear the music.
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Oh, thank you very much, Tudor Dixon.
On to victory in Michigan.
I'm Kurt Schlichter.
This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I don't know.
I thought she was going to be in the other segment.
Well, okay!
Well, she's a delightful lady, and I hope she wins.
I will do my two reads.
Do we have any calls?
All right.
Okay, I will... All right.
All right, I'm gonna... What I'll do is I'll do my two reads, I'll do that, and then I'm not sure we're gonna have any more...
And then I'll just kind of close out with something crazy at the end.
Yeah, but that's like a three minute.
That's only six bulwark wedding nights.
It's actually a measure.
I have a guy in a scientist outfit.
I have an atomic clock.
The vibrations of a helium atom's nucleus is roughly equivalent to a flux capacitor.
Alright.
Oh boy.
Oh man, we're getting close to the point where I gotta start putting stuff away.
Oh man.
Yeah, I gotta take a plane.
And it's like a little plane, too.
It's like an hour.
I was going to get up at like 3 a.m.
and my wife was like, I'm not getting up at 3 a.m.
We're going the night before.
So I've got to spend the night in Reno.
Yeah, that doesn't work for me because I'm in L.A.
If I want to get back east at 4, I've got to be at the airport like 3 a.m.
It's insane.
What, are you in Paso or something?
No.
No, I mean Paso Robles or something.
I love Paso.
I spent a lot of time at Camp Roberts.
So.
Oh my gosh.
It was outstanding.
I got a trial there in about two weeks.
Yeah, that'll be interesting.
See how that goes.
All right.
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Okay.
Here's the deal.
We've been talking a lot about the FBI.
A lot about the FBI.
And it hasn't been a particularly pleasant conversation, because it's not doing too good.
But I want to hear from you guys.
Sally in Cleveland, Ohio, what say you?
Hi.
I think it should be disbanded because of their abuses and unconstitutional overreach.
And also, I have a humorous take on their search of Melania's closet.
They must think that the Trumps took notes from Sandy Berger.
Nice!
Stuffed documents in Melania's socks and underwear.
Well, look, I have, I could just see some guy, and he grew up, he's watching repeats of that from Zimbalist Jr., you know, stopping communists and bank robbers, and he gets the mission.
Okay, you're the guy who goes through Melania's sock drawer, looking for the secret nuclear papers, and the guy's like, how did it come to this?
Well, thank you, Sally.
Thank you.
I could just say, where are the good apples?
I need some good apples, folks.
We are good apple free.
Thank you very much, Sally.
Joe in Illinois.
Yeah, hey.
I'm sure that the big guy signed off on this.
Mr. 10%?
Warrant.
It was a search for Melania's panties in Mar-a-Lago and her New York City apartment because we all know how much she loves the Smiths.
Wow.
Wow, Joe.
You took that to a whole new level.
I mean, can you imagine that?
And thank you very much, Joe.
Can you imagine that?
You've gone through Quantico, right?
You went, I want to be part of the FBI.
I want to protect America.
You go through training at Quantico, right?
You're drug tested, you know, probed, tested, whatever.
You've done all the work.
You're thinking, I'm going to go, I'm going to be hunting Hannibal Lecter.
I'm going to be knocking off Dillinger.
You know, you Al-Qaeda guys, you're not getting anywhere in the United States because I'm on the job!
And then you get put on Panty Patrol.
That's your...
That's what you gotta explain.
You go home for Thanksgiving, and everybody's like, wow, you're part of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Yes, I am.
And what exciting thing did you do?
Did you take down one of the top ten fugitives in America?
The most wanted.
Did you get one of those?
Well, no.
I rifled through Melania Trump's shoe closet, looking for the secret nuclear papers.
And this is a funny thing, right?
And I mean, you know, we're laughing as our Constitution is being shredded.
But the idea that, you know, they're going to indict Trump on something.
They're going to try and do it in Washington, D.C.
Whether that works or not, we'll see.
The crime they're talking about, you know, taking these things knowingly, who believes that Trump, who's not exactly a detail-oriented cat, because he's got people to do that for him, he's sitting there going through papers going, yeah, I want this on nukes, da-da-da-da-da, yeah, this thing, yeah, that, I'm going to keep that, and that Trump intentionally picks up all these papers, right?
Then he's going, I want that one, that one, and that one.
But, sir, they're all stamped, top secret, SCI.
No, no, no, I want them!
Because this is important to me.
No, he's not playing golf.
He's not at a rally.
He's in some dark basement, you know, going through papers, going, yeah, I want this one.
What do you want it for?
Reasons.
Reasons.
Okay?
I'm unconvinced.
I'm unconvinced they're going to be able to show the intent element necessary to prove the crime.
But of course, their goal isn't to prove the crime.
I mean, they'd like to.
That's just why they'll try and do it in Washington, D.C.
Because they know the jury pool's 90% Democrat.
And Republicans always get convicted and Democrats never do.
They just want to have the intent.
But you'd at least Want to be able to do it with a straight face.
But if there's no one holding you accountable, because we don't have an actual media.
We don't have, you know, these neutral truth tellers afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted.
No, we have regime toe suckers.
We have a bunch of, uh, little Renfields.
You know, I keep hearing that gas has gone down.
get my tucking planes for today zero percent inflation okay now i must go fill up my prius on seven dollar gas you know i keep hearing that gas has gone down um i don't know why i'm thinking of eric swalwell now but i am i'm I keep hearing that gas has gone down.
Gas is exactly the same price it was.
I paid like $6.30 a gallon to fill up my fine German touring sedan the other day.
Is this an improvement?
In what sense is this an improvement?
And if we had a real media, which we most definitely do not, we would be hearing about, you know, all this stuff.
We'd be having them ask tough questions like, Merrick Garland.
You think it's really a good idea to send people with guns to your boss's house?
Or the house of the guy your boss is running against in the next election?
Does that seem like a good idea to you?
I will say this.
Thank you Mitch McConnell for not letting this creep on the Supreme Court.
This is Kurt Schlichter guest hosting on America First for Dr. Seb Gorka.
Got one more segment left!
Stick around.
Mic's on, please.
Okay, Kurt, just remember we gotta do food for the poor and car one last time.
Oh my gosh, I knew there was something that we had to do.
No worries, this last segment is for.
So just start off right off the bat with food and car.
I was like, there's something I have to do, and I don't know what the hell it is.
But I have it right here, thank you.
Food and car.
Food and car.
I'm gonna do the food, I'm gonna do the car.
Why am I gonna do the food first?
See, remember I said, hey, okay guys, keep track of that for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I was like going, what am I missing?
Well, you mentioned it in the break after C because we were thrown off by Dick, uh, Dixon showing up early because she was supposed to be D and, but then we mentioned it in the break and then yeah, but it's all right.
It's yeah.
No worries.
We're going to knock it out.
I will, I will kill it.
Two minutes.
It's a food for the poor and car.
Do car, and then food for the poor.
Car's super short, and food's a little bit longer.
I'll do food.
Food'll be... Food'll be good.
How's the show been?
It's been great!
You know, it's... Again, over this last week especially, no shortage of things to talk about, and Cib's had a lot of people on to give their thoughts about it.
The day after the raid, actually, the lineup was insane.
We had, like, Lord Black, John Solomon, Marjorie Taylor Greene... Who else?
Oh, we had Joe DiGenova and Victoria Tunsting for the third hour, the whole third hour.
Nice.
So, yeah, it was a jam-packed show.
And, yeah, we were breaking records on that Rumble stream that day.
Are we getting some good Rumble stream today?
Yeah, we peaked at just over 900.
Just shy of 1,000, actually.
Sometime in the second hour.
I think it was right around when Cruz was on.
So, yeah.
Did quite nicely.
See, I could have pumped Cruz more, but I, you know, just in case he couldn't make it.
I'm hedging your bets.
I get it, because if he ends up not showing, then, yeah, no, I totally get it.
I don't want to look like a schmuck.
One minute to go.
Food for the poor and car firearms.
Let's get that, and then I'll close it out.
Yep.
This is gonna be a fast food for the poor.
Yeah.
Do I gotta do the guy who talks?
I don't think we have to do the audio.
I mean, we've already played it twice.
That's the thing, so... Well, I'll do it because... Just to be safe?
I'll do it.
Sure.
Okay.
I don't want to get creative.
All righty.
All righty.
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Okay, at the beginning of the hour, we set a theme.
Resolved!
The disgraced FBI must be defunded and disbanded.
Well, we talked to a lot of folks.
We talked to Liz Schell, Julie Kelly, Ted Cruz, Ned Ryan, Jim Hansen, and it's unanimous.
Something must be done about the FBI.
Defund and disband it.
Look, there is a rule for federal law enforcement.
It should be a much smaller rule, because we should have a much smaller set of federal laws to enforce.
And counterintelligence is important.
Chinese spies, terrorists, whatever.
But when you put those two together, folks, when you combine counterintelligence activity with law enforcement activity, it's almost inevitable that what happens will happen.
Okay, we saw it under Herbert Hoover.
He was abusing the FBI for his own political ends.
Now the regime is abusing the FBI and the power it has for its own political ends.
We have to understand, as the Founders did, that human beings are fallible.
They cannot be perfected.
Their vices and their bad characteristics must be balanced out by structural guardrails.
Checks and balances.
And we need to check and balance.
What was the FBI?
And make it into something.
A law enforcement agency that does law enforcement.
A counterintelligence agency that does counterintelligence.
And not a political arm of a political party.
I am Kurt Schlichter.
Thank you for allowing me to guest host here on America First.