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He falls off bicycles.
Even at the White House Easter celebration, the Easter Bunny had to guide him back into his safe place.
Cue cards that say, sit here, or end of speech, which he actually states, that is, if he stays awake.
So my question for you is, sir, have you spoken with any other cabinet members about implementing the 25th Amendment on President Biden?
First of all, I'm glad to have a president who can ride a bicycle.
And I will look beyond the insulting nature of that question and make clear to you that the President of the United States... Of course not.
Any other cabinet members about implementing the 25th Amendment on President Biden?
Of course not.
But he can't ride a bicycle.
Come on, Pete!
Was that supposed to be a joke?
Not too funny!
Welcome, dear friends.
This is America First.
It's great to be back in the saddle.
I spent the last four days on a movie stage filming a little something that I'm going to tell you about.
But first things first.
It's America First.
Thank you to Jim Hansen, former Green Beret, for standing into the gap and covering for me on Friday and Monday.
Did a sterling job.
No monologue today because we have too much to cover.
We'll be talking about what Nancy's doing starting World War III in Asia with former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie in studio.
We'll have Lord Conrad Black in the second hour and then the man who is taking the fight to the corrupt FBI Congressman Dan Bishop and then the former Director of the Counterterrorism Center of the CIA, a LEGEND in the community, Rick Prado for one-on-one in the third hour, so you don't want to miss a millisecond.
But first, in studio, because that's how seriously he takes you, three million America Firsters out there.
We have from Texas, I don't know what to call him.
Congressman?
Major?
Or Sheriff?
Troy Nels, welcome to America First.
Sab, it's good to be with you on America First.
It's an honor to be here.
Well, we're delighted to have you in studio, not just to celebrate your brand new book, The Big Fraud, what Democrats don't want you to know about January 6th, the 2020 election, and a whole lot else, but to talk about everything that's happening in the news.
You must have started, because it says here on the back of your book, 21 years in the U.S.
Army Reserves, then you've got 30 years in law enforcement.
You must have started at the age of 5.
Did you put on the Sam Brown at the age of 5?
Absolutely.
I actually started law enforcement and military at the same time as a National Guard Reservist.
And it's been an honor to serve.
I've always had a servant's heart, serving my community and my nation.
And two bronze stars, correct?
Yes, sir.
God bless you.
All right, well, we can talk about your history, your credentials, speak for themselves.
All I do, all I know is that when you send me something to retweet, I retweet it.
So you need to follow this guy, Rep Troy Nells, N-E-H-L-S.
First things first, gotta talk about it.
January 6th, you have been digging into the documents for over a year now.
It is the subject of your book.
What are the things that the people in power Don't want the American people to know about those four hours.
Well, what you're seeing from this January 6th sham committee on televisions across America.
Now, I know they're not getting the ratings they would like.
Benny Thompson is the puppet, and Nancy's the puppet master.
You've got Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger in there.
But this book really talks about all the things that they're not talking about.
They don't want to talk about the intelligence that the leadership of the Capitol Police had.
Before the event.
Before the event.
Weeks leading up to the event.
They're telling them that they need to prepare.
That's right.
The Capitol Police leadership team, specifically the intelligence section, they produced three reports, intelligence reports, dating back to December 15th, December 30th, and then January 3rd.
And I highlight all this in the book.
And if you would have read that 14-page report, that intelligence summary, on January 3rd, you'd have read a paragraph, you would have said, as an entry-level law enforcement officer would have said, we need to have the National Guard here the following day.
So explain to us, since Nancy is in charge of the security...
Why didn't they secure it, Congressman?
Because I truly believe they had the intelligence.
They knew that there were going to be Trump supporters coming up here.
They knew that the Capitol was the target.
They knew extremist groups, white supremacist groups were going to be here.
They had all the intelligence, but they didn't share it.
They didn't share it with anybody.
They almost like they took the intelligence and they sat on it, like they wanted this to happen.
Did they want people to get in trouble who had MAGA hats on?
That's what you're saying?
I think there are a lot of people up there that they knew that there were going to be counter-protesters up there, that there was going to be conflict.
In the report it says, propensity for violence.
They knew there was going to be conflict.
They knew that the House of Representatives were there to be certifying the electors, right?
They knew, the Democrats knew that there were going to be many members of Congress challenging several of these states.
And a peaceful protest turned into a riot.
And what happened?
We had an opportunity while we were going through Arizona, right?
We objected to Arizona.
The riot happens.
And then all of a sudden now we can't get to other meaningful states other than Pennsylvania.
So there's this shocking photograph on the cover of the book.
Please, guys, it's, you know, they talk about the big lie.
This is called the big fraud.
Whoever came up with the title, it's a good title, sir.
This photograph of a police officer holding a weapon through a broken window.
You were there.
You were in the building.
Talk to us about this woman who got shot.
Talk to us about Ashley Babbitt.
What do we need to know about that, Congressman?
And Ashley Babbitt is a later chapter in the book, and I've been very, very vocal critic of Lieutenant Byrd.
He was the Capitol Police officer that shot and killed and murdered Ashley Babbitt.
Whose name was kept quote-unquote secret for six months, Congressman.
It was a very quick investigation.
Listen, I was in law enforcement for 30 years.
I was a county sheriff of a large county, Fort Bend County, Texas, for 8 years.
That investigation was completed within 2 months.
That just doesn't happen that quickly.
And they cleared him.
That shooting...
Should have gone to a grand jury at a minimum.
But they didn't.
They pretty much swept it underneath the carpet.
And I looked and I've examined all that evidence.
I've seen the video.
I'm telling you right now, Lieutenant Byrd admitted to Lester Holt on World News that he couldn't see her hands.
He said, I couldn't see her.
Yes.
What happens to a cop on the street who discharges his weapon when he's not sure of the target?
Sheriff, what happens?
Yeah, well, number one, you better make sure that if you use deadly force on somebody, that that person poses a threat, a serious bodily injury, death to you or someone else.
And Ashley Babbitt did not do that.
If that would have taken place in 2020 in a summer riot, and one of those police officers in Seattle or anywhere, Washington D.C., would have shot an unarmed protester, hell, cities would still be burning today.
And this is an officer who we know in the past had several issues concerning his firearm.
In one instance, leaving his service sidearm in a toilet, correct?
That's right.
He left it in the bathroom.
And there's a picture in the book where I'm on the house floor, and that is me on the cover of the book in the blue shirt.
There's a picture on the house floor.
So, camera three, this is our guest right there on the cover.
And Lieutenant Byrd has his weapon pointed directly at my back.
That's in the book.
Wow.
What else do we need to know?
What other questions?
Why are there tens of thousands or at least thousands of hours of footage from inside the Capitol that nobody's allowed to see, Congressman?
I don't understand that.
If they want to have an investigation, release the footage.
Because Nancy Pelosi's in charge.
And remember what Benny Thompson, he's the chair of the sham committee, what did he say in the beginning?
Nancy Pelosi is off-limits.
This is going to take, once we take the majority in January, we will, We will have the majority.
The Republicans are going to clobber them.
We must make sure that our leadership, Kevin McCarthy's going to be the speaker.
We must look into this.
We must investigate not only January 6th.
We got to look at Hunter Biden's laptop.
We got to look at all the equipment left in Afghanistan.
We have to even look at COVID and Wahoon, Fauci, all of it.
There's going to be a lot of work that's going to need to be done and a lot of investigations.
Oh, I just forgot to mention the most important part.
Everybody else would have put this in massive letters.
The smallest font on the cover, the smallest font, I don't know who your publicist is, says, a must-read for all Americans, Donald J. Trump.
Alright guys, there you go.
The book is The Big Fraud, What Democrats Don't Want You To Know About January 6th, the 2020 election, and a whole lot else.
We're going to continue the discussion, especially about the elections and what happens After the midterms with our very special in-studio guest, I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Okay, great. - Do you want the mics on or on?
- So what happened to that thing about the police snooping about your office? - We've got a, so the original IG, his name was Michael Bolton.
He ended up retiring halfway through the investigation.
He retired, gone. - The Capitol Police IG. - The IG for the US Capitol Police.
His name was Michael Bolton, he left.
So now we have this acting IG.
His name is Ronald Gregory and he's weak.
I, you know, I...
I asked several questions.
They would give me answers, but the answers were not... So what's your gut telling you?
My gut is telling me that the only way I'm going to get to the truth is I'm going to have to file a lawsuit.
I'm going to have to sue them.
I'm going to have to have the ability to get my counsel to depose them, because I'll never get the truth otherwise.
And this acting IG...
he wants to be the IG obviously and you know Nancy's gonna play a role in that so he's not going to rule in my favor it's not objective it's not a independent independent body the IG of the Capitol Police as a former Leo as a former sheriff give me a letter grade for the Capitol Police in terms of professionalism when it comes to being a Leo Professionalism.
I think, I would probably say, I really don't want to fault the average, the men and women.
But as a service?
I would probably say a B. And in terms of being politicized?
Well, the leadership is an F.
The leadership, they've turned that place.
Nancy Pelosi has turned the Capitol Police into her own private security force.
An investigative agency is what she's done with it.
And it's shameful. - What are these guys doing pulling their weapons at a broken window?
- Well, when the glass broke very-- - Did they think they were being shot at?
Well, initially, the call came in, shots fired, shots fired, and that's what you saw all over the news immediately.
And I immediately determined, with Mark Wayne Mullen, he's the one in the white shirt, the Oklahoma, the guy from Oklahoma.
I said, Mark, those weren't shots fired.
Well, number one, Sab, I was right in front of the glass, so I probably wouldn't pay having a conversation with you.
So, but they just, it was a way to, I guess, keep those individuals on the other side.
It was my opportunity to take my law enforcement training and diffuse the situation.
And that's what I did.
I give the officers credit.
I'm glad they didn't get spooked or pull the trigger like Lieutenant Byrd did.
Well, one of them did.
Yeah, Lieutenant Byrd did.
And so, that shooting needs to be looked at.
That should have gone to a grand jury.
They're being criticized.
They should be criticized because that was a very fast investigation.
They killed, he murdered her.
Well, and that thing with Lester Holt where he said, I saved so many lives.
He murdered somebody but he saved... What lives did he save?
Whose lives were in danger?
I think he got spooked.
I think he got scared.
I think he doesn't have the right training.
He didn't have the discipline.
He probably had his finger on the trigger.
He got spooked and he pulled the trigger.
Right?
And, you know, you could sit and beat up on law enforcement.
I think law enforcement is getting beat up all the time, but the issue in Uvalde too, those guys not going in there, that just doesn't make law enforcement look very good.
I think they got a little nervous and a little scared.
I don't think so.
Oh, come in with the shortcut.
The other one cuts well.
All right.
All right.
Yep.
All right.
Well, just a few weeks ago, this is how President Biden described America in one word.
Thank you.
Could you please tell me what that word means?
It's this one right here.
Could you even say the word?
Garza, I'm not in the habit of trying to read transcriptions.
Yeah, because you wouldn't be able to even pronounce the word because you're courting a man who has, as far as I'm concerned, clinical issues.
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We are back with Congressman Troy Nels at Texas's 22nd Congressional District.
Brand new book, The Big Fraud.
That's him on the cover as we saw the events of January 6th unfold.
Endorsed by President Trump.
Get the book today.
One of the subtitles of your book is, What the Democrats Don't Want You to Know About the 2020 Election.
We are just ahead of a midterm.
We've had Matt Gaetz on the show who said, we're going to win on the midterms, we'll take control of all the committees, and then we're going to turn them into an investigative committee, all of them.
Great, OK.
But you know, to me, after the last six years, I'm really not interested in subpoenas.
I'm not interested in IG reports.
I want people arrested.
When Mallorca says the border is closed, and we have 53 people killed in Texas in the back of an 18-wheeler, Is it going to be enough to have congressional action?
You tell me, Congressman.
Well, Mayorkas, number one, he lies to the American people when he's on camera, and he needs to be fired, impeached, whatever you want to do.
He needs to go with several others in that administration.
I think General Milley has been an absolute failure, and I'm disappointed in the SecDef Austin as well.
But I agree with Matt that several investigations need to be conducted, but I don't think it's going to be up to Matt or I. It's going to be up to the leadership.
Is Kevin McCarthy strong enough?
Well, I believe that Kevin McCarthy, he is going to be our Speaker of the House.
There's no question about it.
And I think it's very important.
I've had opportunity with some other members to talk to Leader McCarthy about the future, when we get the House back, as we will, and talk about the budget and how we as Republicans, we must try to rein in some spending.
The American people are sick and tired.
I mean, it's $30 trillion now.
We just have to make sure it's not $33 trillion, you know, in 2024.
You mentioned an idea before we came on air, what we should do as conservatives after the midterms.
What was your suggestion?
My suggestion is that we have to make a big splash in the first two years.
The American people are going to give us the gavel in the House.
We are going to have the Speaker.
So we must take care of that gavel.
Years previous, you know, we've had the gavel, we had both chambers, we had Donald Trump, and what did Paul Ryan do?
Yes, we got the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, but we did nothing to secure the southern border.
Now the American people are paying for it.
So I think it's incumbent upon Leader McCarthy to make sure that we can rein in this out-of-control spending, take care of the gavel, and make sure that we focus on 2024.
This is about 2024 right now.
Have we done enough to clean up what happened in 2020 to make sure that 2024 isn't stolen?
Well, I think that a lot more attention, the states are giving a lot more attention to this, specifically the state of Texas.
I think that the Democrats aren't going to have COVID and don't bring me this monkey pox story to all of a sudden declare another national emergency where you can see then these liberal mayors and governors and county clerks and stuff all of a sudden change the rules to the voting.
And that's what you saw in 2020, all in the name of COVID.
So I'm hoping that these individual states have tightened up the rules and made sure that we have voter integrity.
Because without it, we don't have a country.
My take is that Kevin can be guided, given the right advice, and brought to the correct place to do the right thing as Speaker.
Do you concur?
I think Kevin has an opportunity to do right by the American people.
We see a crisis at every corner.
We have to stop the bleeding.
I don't know if we get the Senate back.
I hope we do.
But we know we don't have the White House.
So I hope that the decisions that Leader McCarthy makes as the Speaker of the House in 2022 will all be about 2024.
We need Donald Trump back so bad.
Our country needs him.
There's no one else that can do it.
It's gotta be Donald Trump.
And he's gonna come back, he's gonna be the Republican nominee, and he's gonna be our 47th president.
The book is endorsed by President Trump.
He says it's a must-read for all Americans.
It's The Big Fraud.
What Democrats don't want to know, want you to know about the January 6th events, the 2020 election, and a whole lot else by Congressman Troy Nells of Texas.
I ask this of every congressman, every congresswoman who comes on the show.
Is the GOP, have we dealt with the rhinos?
Is the GOP now a MAGA, America First Party, Congressman?
Well, I hope to see more and more people joining the mega-movement, the House Freedom Caucus, which I am a member of.
It's an honor to be part of that Freedom Caucus, because I'm an America First patriot.
I truly am.
And I think we ought to be putting the American people first.
I support the idea of trying to help people across the country, across the world, that need that help.
But I think we've been abused for decades, and it's about time we put the American people first.
And Donald Trump did that.
And when it comes to who's going to be in the White House, can this man last another two and a half years?
What's your prediction?
Well, me personally, I hope he lasts another two years and I'm going to send Joe Biden 25 bucks because I want him to be the nominee.
I do.
I want Joe Biden.
I want Biden to be the nominee because I think Trump will have fun with him in 2024.
Do you think that's possible?
Do you think he can last physically last that long?
They don't have another candidate.
Well, Kamala, wouldn't that be even better?
Wouldn't it be better to have a woman like her who got less than 2% in the primaries?
Less than 2%!
That woman's dangerous, but I wouldn't mind seeing Mayor Pete right in there, too, because I think Donald would have fun with him.
He wants it.
You know he wants it.
All right.
Last question to you, Congressman.
What is your message to those who say, after 2016, that's it.
We're done.
I'm not voting.
They stole it.
They're going to steal it again.
I'm getting out of politics.
What's your message?
I think the message is very important and very clear.
We saw what we had under Donald Trump.
Four years of just great leadership, holding our adversaries in check with China and Putin.
And now we have nothing but a spineless president.
And look at inflation, gas prices.
We have a crisis at every corner.
Donald Trump, I thought, did a very good job handling COVID.
So we need to get back to that Donald Trump leadership.
And he can save this country.
He truly can.
And you need to get out there and vote in November of 2024.
You need to get behind the party.
The party needs to get united behind one individual, and the only individual right now that can save this country, in my opinion, is Donald J. Trump.
I tend to agree because he's still not a politician.
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We could spend the next three hours, the next six hours just discussing national security and geopolitics.
Two big stories we have to hit and we have none.
The perfect guest in studio, former cabinet member in the Trump administration, now with the America First Policy Institute, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
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So, I think a lot of people are missing the real buried lead of the big story that Zawahiri was killed by a drone strike.
By the way, by a drone, the ninja drone that actually cuts the target into pieces, which is, I think, a perfect way to kill the head of Al-Qaeda.
That's right.
The big story here is where he was killed, surely, and what happened there last August.
Certainly there.
And this points to the incompetence.
of the Biden national security team.
This is actually a failure of Biden, but a plus for the CIA that they were able to do this.
The notion that the world's leading terrorists are hiding in plain sight in Kabul.
In a very, I mean, I've been to Kabul, There are not many fancy places.
But this is the one neighborhood... This is the boulevard.
This is the center.
That's exactly right.
That he was hiding in front of the world.
And this is coming from an administration that condemned Donald Trump for killing Soleimani.
This is a president who went after his own boss, Barack Obama, for issuing the order to kill bin Laden.
He said last night that this was a triumph and vindicates his August debacle.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
It does point to American weakness.
It also points back to why we hit Afghanistan in the first place.
uh... to make sure that it was no longer a haven for al-qaeda and its associates well uh... they're back and afghanistan is is ripe for the taking we were told let's just remind everybody so first things first what the secretary said uh... biden was the only person in the obama cabinet who said don't kill bin laden And Obama actually took a vote of the principals, which blows my mind.
I don't think Eisenhower or Truman took votes as to whether... Let me give you a quick story about that kind of situation.
Go ahead.
It's one of my favorite Abraham Lincoln stories.
The cabinet consisted of six members in 1862.
Rivals.
Rivals.
And he decided for the first time he would have a vote.
He said, well, I don't even remember what the issue was.
He said, let's go around the table.
Six votes no, one vote aye, the ayes have it.
Because there's one president!
That's right, and this is not Joe Biden.
So what do we have here?
We have a continuation of failure.
And from what I've gathered from my friends at the Pentagon, up until the last moment, Before the strike took place, Biden is wailing about the impact this will have on our relations with the Taliban.
I mean, this is this is cloud cuckoo land, but it's not surprising for an indecisive and I'll just say incompetent commander in chief and an incompetent team.
But this is the quote unquote commander in chief who said in August In that precipitous withdrawal and surrender in Afghanistan to justify it afterwards, Secretary Wilkie, that we're leaving because Al-Qaeda has left Afghanistan.
That's right.
Did Zawahiri just suddenly move there?
Absolutely.
And let's take a look at this strike.
And you know this because this has been your world for many years.
We expended enormous resources looking for this man.
He was number one in the FBI's world.
Hit list.
The notion that we can do this again and again without a military presence in Afghanistan is nonsensical.
And you see the sleight of hand tricks that the president and his team were pulling last night with that speech.
If anything, this is more of an indication to the bad guys that we have weak, ineffectual leadership.
One subject down, a couple a dozen to go.
We'll squeeze them in.
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So he was in good form, the President.
Very good form.
Probably the best speech he's given in a long time.
To the point.
He knows... I find it so funny that people ask the question as to whether he's running.
It's like, what planet are you living on for the last year?
That's right.
He's ready.
But very good.
And I'll say this, Linda McMahon and Brooke Rollins have created a juggernaut.
Brooke runs it, right?
What's Linda's role?
Linda is the CEO.
She's the president, I should say, and Brooke runs it.
It's just taken off.
You know, a few months ago they had five employees and now they have 250.
My gosh.
Who else is doing national security there?
Lighthizer.
Oh, good.
Yeah, Lighthizer is there.
General Kellogg is there.
Uh-huh.
So that's... Would you connect me when you next see him to the ambassador?
Absolutely.
I'd like to get him on.
Absolutely.
Yeah, Bannon made me an observer on the Trade Policy Council, so I would sit in the back and just watch him, and he impressed me.
Oh, absolutely.
But you just hit on something about the difference between what we were doing, and I say we when I was at the Pentagon, and what happens in an administration like this.
Trade was not divorced from military and diplomatic avenues and policy.
It was one.
It was one of the many lines of effort.
Yeah, it wasn't a one-off.
I mean, this fiasco with Pelosi's trip and the State Department saying one thing, the Pentagon saying don't go, and the President of the United States telling the world that the Pentagon said don't do it.
I'm going to tee-up cut three Kobe here.
Tee-up cut three, yep.
So we'll use that to react to.
And then our friends on Fox at night saying that we're walking into World War III.
Yeah, you'll have to read that story.
I just opened it.
I'll read you in the break.
Yeah.
Thank you.
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They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
How do you say that?
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She went to Asia.
She is not the Commander-in-Chief.
What was the real reason?
Let's listen to the man who's trying to save the White House in terms of communications, but failing badly.
Cut 3, John Kirby.
Why did the president bother with this drama from the beginning?
I mean, why not, rather than saying the military doesn't think it's a good idea to go, why not call the Chinese bluff or tell them to pound sand when they started bellyaching about the possibility of this trip, given, as you pointed out, there's no change in policy and there's precedent for Pelosi to visit Taiwan?
So what's the drama?
What?
Have you watched the Braves the last couple of weeks?
I mean, there's been this question of whether or not... Yeah, I've been here the last couple of weeks.
I haven't seen any drama.
I think you're manufacturing it with your question.
What's the drama?
I would say having the Foreign Ministry of China saying to America, if you dare come to China, you play with fire, you will get burnt.
And then having the Commander-in-Chief send confusing messages from the White House.
Help me out here.
I've spoken to many of my contacts as Secretary Wilkie.
I do not see the geopolitical logic.
We support Taiwan.
But why is it Nancy?
Who's in charge?
And then the flip-flops from the White House.
Do you know why she's going?
Well, it's simple.
All politics is local.
What they won't report is that she comes from a constituency that I believe is 40% ethnic Chinese.
The one issue that Nancy Pelosi has been right on in her entire career has been China in terms of Our national security posture, the threat that they pose, because it's an electoral necessity for her.
So she's doing this for the voters back home in her district.
It's a domestic issue.
And that's something the Chinese don't understand.
They still haven't understood why Nixon resigned.
Mao went to his grave thinking, how can the most powerful man on the planet leave office like that?
But this is a domestic issue for San Francisco, but the great tragedy is that we have a president signaling to the entire world that he doesn't know who's on first base.
He's called out his Pentagon for saying they oppose this.
The State Department is saying something else.
What I do think we'll see though, other than the saber-rattling, and I saw that in the propaganda film the Chinese put out, they announced to the world that they were lining tanks up.
On the beach, which is interesting, unless they have invented trans-oceanic tanks.
You know, they can't invade Taiwan.
They don't have the capability.
So we'll see.
They're worried about showing the world that they might be a paper dragon when it comes to this moment in history.
But to have the Commander-in-Chief last week say it's not a good idea for her to go and then reverse on that.
How does that look in, I don't know, Moscow, Beijing, Texas?
It looks the way the Afghanistan withdrawal looks.
It looks the way his past opposition to the killing of Bin Laden.
It looks to his vacillation on Ukraine.
It's all part of a pattern showing American weakness and indecisiveness to the world.
And the fact that this is a president, and I hate to say this using the simple vernacular, who can be had on the world stage.
You mentioned Ukraine.
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On Ukraine, it seems as if this is a story that is already forgotten by the mainstream media.
We have a problem on the right.
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On Ukraine, it seems as if this is a story that is already forgotten by the mainstream media.
We have a problem on the right.
We have a lot of isolationists to say, "Well, it's a corrupt country, so we shouldn't help them," and seem to miss the fact that Russia invaded.
What's the latest?
What's the truth about what we should be doing in Ukraine?
Give us your take.
Well, we should continue and actually ramp up the flow of munitions to the Ukraine.
Yeah, not money, but weapons.
Weapons.
They don't need tents.
They don't need refugee camps.
They need weapons to kill Russians.
They've been doing a very good job.
The Russians have stopped.
They have suffered tremendous casualties.
Some sources in the UK say upwards of 50,000 are dead.
Absolutely.
They are dead in the water.
And the limited number of high-performance artillery tubes that we've given high marks...
It's actually devastated any plans that they had for making a huge push into the east.
They've destroyed bridges.
They've destroyed energy plants deep into Mother Russia itself.
They have turned the tables.
Putin is trying to reconstitute his forces, but they're shattered.
Not only shattered in terms of the number of privates and sergeants and lieutenants who have been killed, but shattered in terms of leadership.
But we have to allow our friends in Ukraine time for them to reconstitute, resupply, so they can continue the fight.
But as long as the person in the White House is not somebody that the Kremlin is afraid of, this may have to just simmer and boil at a level of inhumanity until our old boss is back in the White House, maybe.
I think that's exactly right.
Remember, Putin was a choir boy for four years.
The Chinese did nothing for four years.
There was no saber rattling on Taiwan for four years.
But the dogs of war have been let loose by, again, someone who has been wrong about America, about America's place in the world, and has been wrong since the Vietnam War.
Well, to quote his former boss, Barack Obama, never underestimate Joe's ability, and I clean it up here a little bit, to F things up.
And the former Secretary of Defense that worked for Obama, Robert Gates, a quintessential Washington survivor said, That man has been wrong about every significant foreign policy issue for 37 years.
I think now we have to make it 47.
He is a Senior Fellow.
He has the National Security Portfolio at the American First Policy Institute.
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Which one's more fun, the Barbasol ad or the TikTok guy?
Uh, the TikTok guy.
The TikTok guy.
OK, this is great.
Found this on social media.
I think somebody sent this to me, actually.
I think it's Joel.
You know who you are.
This is somebody, just, you know, average guy watching CNN and doing a little video.
Cut 10.
Play cut.
All the stuff going on in the world right now.
This is all they can do is talk about Trump and a golf tournament.
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
They're obsessed with Trump.
That's all they can talk about.
Trump, Trump, Trump.
Trump.
Everything going on.
This is all they've got to talk about.
What a great laugh.
And it's true, I mean, I was locked in a movie studio all weekend, but they did, didn't they, Jeff?
They spoke, they were obsessed with Trump golfing.
I thought, didn't they know that he golfs?
I know, all they want to do, they're trying to link him up with that Live Golf and the Saudi Arabia thing.
Oh, of course.
Right, right, right.
Of course.
Because there's nothing else important going on in the world.
Well, there was in my world.
Let me tell you a little bit about what I was doing.
If you can see over here, a couple of artifacts that I brought back from our experience.
Thanks to my amazing wife, we are filming a new TV show about certain things to do with, oh, maybe Fertility Idols, The Spear of Destiny, Myths and Legends Through the Ages.
I want to say thank you to Debra and Jonathan, our producers, and to everybody who was there.
I filmed two whole episodes Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
I'm sorry Lord, I worked on Sunday.
And yesterday, Monday, but it is so exciting.
We have 12 episodes to film, and then we're going to announce the name of the show, and you will enjoy it.
It has to do with my personal hobbies, my proclivities, and just having a bit of fun, another side of Dr. G.
All right, let's squeeze in a call.
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Let's show this ad.
This is... I don't know how I found this.
Everything is so woke now.
This came from about six years ago.
I use Barbasol, but not because of this ad, but it's great.
cut seven oh hey buddy It's your great-granddad here!
In case you haven't noticed, I'm kinda busy fighting for your freedom in this little thing called the Second World War.
But now, you're using that freedom to hurl insults at celebrities on... Twitter?
Listen, hashtag, you're not gonna fight like a man.
At least shave like a man.
Excuse me.
Stop LOLing everything! - Great.
Stop LOLing everything!
That looks like something our buddy Chris Coles would have made on the Mr. Reagan channel.
I love that.
I'm gonna show that on my Newsmax show this Sunday.
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I'm Sebastian Gorka.
We'll be back with Lord Conrad Black and Congressman Dan Bishop who ripped the FBI a new orifice.
Stay with us.
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There was an illusion being created using the most awesome tools and the greatest tricks that the American intelligence community had learned to use against our enemies.
Now it was being deployed against the American people and our president.
This is the biggest political scandal in modern history, which makes Watergate look like a tiff.
The FBI director has no credibility.
The left used to not trust the FBI, and now they love them.
This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn.
Imagine what they do to anybody who has a single strike against them.
35 Russian diplomats in the U.S.
expelled.
The prosecution of General Flynn wasn't a pursuit of criminal activity.
It was a setup.
Flynn actually had details.
He was talking about going after people's budgets.
They were terrified.
Media didn't start as neutral.
Media hasn't been neutral all its life.
The two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out.
In fact, through WikiLeaks, that she says one thing and...
Oh, no.
They worked hand-in-glove with Comey to try to delegitimize Trump.
They were not there to tell the truth.
A political dirty trick is being carried out by our intelligence community.
Honestly, none of us really know, sort of holistically, what to think about this dossier.
They went into Congress.
They said, nothing here.
Doesn't matter.
We'll keep going with FISA.
We'll keep going with the investigation.
And more importantly, we will go on TV, day in and day out, and lie to the American people to their face.
And nothing's going to happen to us.
The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread, and the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to scum!
Russian scum!
We had not one person claim that they had or had seen evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians.
Devin Nunes was the hero in the forest.
He was alone, he was mocked, he was attacked.
Devin Nunes was subject to such scorn for saying the conclusions that we brought forth in that report, which all proved to be true.
Russiagate was a false story.
To target their political opposition.
To carry out their insurance policies.
I believe that this is a conspiracy.
These guys have perpetrated the greatest crime against the American people ever seen.
It was a coup d'etat.
This is how sick and twisted these people are.
I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S.
citizens involved in the Trump transition.
It was shocking to see some of the over-classification that was done to hide either corruption or abuse of authority and just to make sure certain agencies didn't look bad.
We have a peaceful transition of power process.
That's not what happened.
There were more meetings.
There were more leaks.
There were more attacks.
The thing that they were investigating the Trump campaign for is what they themselves were doing.
Not just the Democratic Party and their operatives, but also the FBI.
If I were writing about the time frame that we lived in, and that we're living in now, I would say it wasn't supposed to happen.
They weren't supposed to know.
The entire time this was going on, they thought this was going to be what sunk the Donald Trump presidency.
and they were just looking for the golden goose and they still haven't found it because it doesn't exist.
Public education
has gone off the rails. - Now it's about power and money and politics and somehow the kids are getting lost in all of that.
It doesn't matter whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you're a mom and a dad first.
Critical race theory is dividing our children in ways that are unacceptable.
You cannot use racism to eradicate racism.
Our teachers are bullied.
Parents are shut out.
Less than one-third of America's school children are proficient in anything.
They're teaching these kids X-rated sex acts.
When we look at this radical agenda, the way our children are being exploited and the way parents are getting shut out, it comes down to one fundamental question.
Whose children are they?
Yes.
Yes.
Conrad!
Yes, sir?
Welcome back.
Thank you.
So much to discuss.
How are you doing?
Good, good, good, good.
I want to get your take on the news of Zawahiri, and then we'll move to more political things.
Right.
All right.
Well, that one's pretty political, too.
Indeed, indeed.
I was thinking, just as I said that, maybe I should have rephrased it.
Traditional politics, maybe.
Alright, 60 seconds.
Guys, you can lock the lines off.
No.
Do you have the image of Kostner?
Did we find that?
Can you show me?
And that's real.
All right.
Does he have a Twitter account?
Okay.
Alright, I might use that with Conrad.
All right, stand by. All right, stand stand by. All right, stand
All right, stand stand by. All right, stand by.
No, not me.
Dr. G. It's close, dear friend.
You have some rather good pipes there, but you have to smoke more cigars.
That's my trick.
When I went to the studio this weekend to film my new TV show, a couple of cigars the night before just brings you down a couple of octaves, I find.
Dear friends, welcome back to America First.
We'll be joined by Congressman Dan Bishop later this hour, and then CIA legend, former director of the Canada Terrorism Centre, Rick Prado, will be with us, which is perfect given the news of the last 24 hours and the death of Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Let's start with that topic with our regular guest, a good friend of the show, the author of Donald J. Trump, A President Like No Other, and many, many other superb works, Lord Conrad Black.
Welcome back to America First.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
We were saying in the break that I want to start with something that's not overtly political, but of course you made the good point that it is.
Everything seems to be political nowadays, so the ramifications, the broader context, given that it is a midterm election year of Zawahiri being killed by the CIA in, let us be clear here, the nation that U.S.
Forces pulled out of under the orders of President Biden, who at this time, Lord Black said, we're leaving Afghanistan because, quote, Al Qaeda has left Afghanistan.
What is it you want me to comment on exactly?
Well, the political... Is there any potential blowback from saying back then we're leaving, quote-unquote, mission accomplished, because Al-Qaeda is no longer in Afghanistan, and then we find out a year later that the head of Al-Qaeda is living large in Kabul?
Yeah, I think the answer is yes, but not right away.
I think the immediate effect, to be fair here, is it does make Biden look good.
He will, with justification or not, and that remains to be seen, but I have my doubts about it, he will represent this as showing that his comments at the time of the fiasco of the departure from Afghanistan, that
We would have an over-the-horizon presence that those comments were not just the vapor and hot air that was generally how they were described, but that they actually contained some truth.
And this is an illustration of that.
And the fact is, let's be fair, it was his decision.
The buck stopped with him.
Unlike, fortunately, the pusillanimous opinion he came up with when he was the vice president on the issue of killing bin Laden, at this time he said, yes, let's do it.
He was right.
It was done.
I mean, apparently we want a little more confirmation.
But as far as we know, it was a good, clean, professional operation and removed a horrible criminal international terrorist.
So it makes him look good, and he's entitled to that.
But I think over time, it is.
You're quite right in what you implied, that it indicates that with the Taliban back in control in Afghanistan, or most of it anyway, that the terrorist groups, including al-Qaeda, see it as a place for them to set up these training centers, nurseries, for their terrorist activities.
That, over time, and it's only been a few months, but over time, that will be a very serious and dangerous development.
Thank you for putting your historian's eye on all of this.
Yes, let's remind everybody that, according to his own autobiography, Obama took a vote of the then-principals when they located bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan, as to whether or not he should be killed.
Incredible that a vote was taken and it was the Vice President, it was Biden, who said no, he shouldn't be killed.
Let's switch to... He's the only one.
The whole National Security Council said, by all means, let's do it.
And of course, the other historic point is, when 9-11 occurred, it was again the Taliban that was giving aid and succor to Bin Laden, to Al-Qaeda, and that was allowing them to live large in Afghanistan.
Let's return to the economic situation.
I had to ask you, given the word game that was being played by the White House last week, the idea that You are allowed unilaterally to redefine words such as recession if they are inconvenient to you.
You are a man of the business world, a very successful businessman.
Does that have any traction with the likes of the Wall Street banker, the investor, the successful businessman?
Or do they just look at that with a wry smile?
I'm not so sure they're smiling at it.
I think they may be scowling at it.
But no, I don't think anyone buys that at all.
I mean, if you have a longstanding definition of a recession, you meet the criteria, you don't suddenly say, terribly sorry, but we're changing the criteria.
I mean, that won't fly.
And that sort of sophistry in whatever field and by whomever invoked is not credible.
Now, with that said, I think they're within their rights to say, well, all right, we have a recession.
But as of now, it's a shallow recession.
We don't have high unemployment.
And there are some, you know, and then they can start to put in a bit of advocacy for themselves, but taking their stance that, well, you know, that definition doesn't work anymore, so we don't have a recession.
It's just indicative of the intellectual laziness and presumption of this administration.
So you think that it's more arrogance as opposed to desperation that they did that, or a bit of both?
I go a little bit of both, you know.
I mean, look, they can read the polls as well as you and I can, and all of your listeners, and they know they're headed for the last roundup.
They're going to get absolutely hammered in three months unless a miracle occurs.
Now, in fairness to them, I have to say, I think Biden has raised his game.
I mean, I don't know how Schumer did it.
I'm very disappointed in Manchin.
I don't know what Senator Sinema is going to do, but as of now, it looks like this monstrous misnomer of a deficit reduction.
I think it's slightly different, but that's effectively what it's titled.
This is a disaster, but it does give the President the aura of being able to get something done.
I mean, he was just stalled this whole time in office up until last week, and he looks now for the first time like The person he was sold as two years ago was somebody who had been in Congress for decades and knew how to make the system work.
And so, I mean, I think for the Republicans, it's actually a good thing because if they enact this insane act, Inflation Reduction Act, that's what it is now, I'm sorry, Inflation Reduction Act, IRA by another name, and if they actually get it enacted,
The impact will be negative, and the country will get a very good look at what this woke, far-left, so-called progressive democratic movement can do, and just how much of a wrecking ball they are.
And so, at the moment, the Democrats, assuming it is enacted, can celebrate that they've got their program passed.
So, you know, the good news is they got their program passed, and the bad news for them is the program will be a disaster, and that will be clear by the date of the presidential election.
So therefore, what is their logic?
If this is suicidal in terms of the politics of the next 90 days, is this just pork for pork's sake, or do you divine some kind of rationale?
A bit of a rationale, but it's the rationale of rank opportunism and the inability to wrench oneself loose from an unsatisfactory tide of events.
And then develop a plan of action to reverse the tide.
Instead of it being carried on the tide, they're going to say, assuming this bill is enacted, they're going to say, look here, we've done much of what we said we'd do.
We would have done more, but we were obstructed in all the usual crybaby nonsense.
But, you know, they've got control of both houses of Congress, however they obstruct it.
But they'll say, we did what we said we'd do.
And that's fine, up to a point, that is true, and they deserve to be respected for doing that, for doing what they said they would do, and then enacting it.
It will be an unmitigated disaster.
Do you think this recession we have now, and the high gas prices, and all the other evidences of the failure of this administration, skyrocketing crime and a porous southern border, people pouring in in unimaginable numbers, many of them undesirables,
If you think that's bad, pile on top of it, once we actually have a recession in place, a bill that will not reduce inflation, will aggravate inflation and discourage investment and employment, and a year, a full year's operation of that coming up to the next presidential election,
And the country will go in uncharacteristic, near unanimity, as far as you can ever get in a two-party system, to evict these people.
They're hanging themselves.
I think the answer to your question is the so-called progressive Sandersite group has all the energy in that party.
There are sensible Democrats.
We just saw Manchin fold like a $3 suitcase running up Arthur Back.
They're being led by the nose.
We're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
Follow him, Conrad M. Black, co-host of the podcast Scholars and Sense.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
We will continue in a moment.
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Can you play me cut six, please, Eric, and cut eight?
Okay.
If you're in an indoor congregate setting and you go to the computer and click on the CDC map and you see that the county that you're in is an orange or a red zone, then when you're in a congregate indoor setting, wear a mask.
Well, first of all, there's the specific issue of the whole Black Lives Matter demonstrations, which a large part of the country, certainly a lot of the mail I get, people think that, you know, lots of Manhattan was burned to the ground.
They think that this was an enormously destructive thing when, in fact, yes, there was some arson and looting, but actually really not very much in a country the size of the United States and for demonstrations that size.
Can I clarify, Paul?
That's because whenever we're talking about the January 6 hearings, the likes of Sean Hannity always say, well, why aren't you investigating the summer of 2020 riots?
That's what they say basically every day.
Yeah, and you're in Manhattan, right?
I mean, you know that there is not a burned-out shell.
This just never happened, but they're told it did.
Look, there were windows shattered in my building.
It was awful.
And we cleaned it up the next day.
And that's what people do.
Funny they don't have that attitude to January 6th.
There were windows shattered.
We just cleaned it up the next day.
Funny that.
And then let's have...
$2 million of damage.
Yep, yep, yep.
And 40 people killed.
2,000 people injured.
Yep, and 40 killed.
Play Jean-Pierre, Cup 5, please, Eric.
As of this morning, gas prices have dropped 81 cents per gallon since their peak in June, as you'll see from the chart to my left here.
That means American families who with two cars are saving $80 a month.
Drivers can now find gas for $3.99 or less at around half of all gas stations across the country.
And average gasoline prices have come below $3.99 in 19 states.
Why is it so difficult for her to read those sentences?
Those are not grammatically complex sentences.
So strange.
Because she doesn't get to call anyone a racist.
That's when she's good.
That's the only time.
Wow.
Sad thing is that, though, if the gas prices do continue dropping at those rates, then they could very well be back to quote-unquote normal levels by November, which... Well, they weren't if there's still war in Europe.
Conrad, are you on a cell phone?
No, I'm on a landline.
Okay, good.
All right, there's a little bit of crackling earlier, but I think it's better now.
All right, I'm going to share a poll with you from CBS on Hispanic voting attitudes, but let's... Oh, and then I'll play that Fauci... I'll tee up that Fauci cut, Eric, all right?
Cut six.
Cut six.
All right, you got a title in mind for Wilkie and or... For Wilkie... Something about Ukraine or more about Zoho here?
Yeah, obviously.
He'll tee it up, guys.
Al-Qaeda's Zawahiri is dead.
What now?
What did you say, Eric?
No, I was talking to the guy.
Ready?
Clips one or a guy.
What did you say, Eric?
No, I was talking to a guy.
Al-Qaeda Zawahiri is dead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What did you say, Eric?
What did you say, Eric?
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Thank you, Mr. Nugent.
Very, very kind.
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We are back with Lord Conrad Beck, the author of numerous works.
Most recently, Donald J. Trump, a president like no other.
He's the co-host of The Scholars and Sense.
Jeff, I'm hearing you in my ear, so you need to kill that.
Scholars and Sense podcast.
His website is Conrad M. Black, a regular contributor to Epoch Times amongst other publications.
Now Lord Black, we just had Congressman Troy Nells from Texas in studio and he was talking about the midterm elections in the 2024 elections and he had a statement to make concerning whether or not there will be A ruse, some kind of public health scare used to maintain or reintroduce the peculiar voting regulations we had two years ago.
Let's just listen to what Fauci had to say about the use of masks in America.
This is cut six.
If you're in an indoor congregate setting and you go to the computer and click on the CDC map and you see that the county that you're in is an orange or a red zone, then when you're in a congregate indoor setting, wear a mask.
So that is a brand new cut, calling for masks to be worn again.
We have, of course, the monkey pox threat that has been raised in the last few weeks.
Congressman Nell said we cannot allow them to use this to override existing election regulations.
I know you're very, very cautious and say you're not a psychiatrist, you're not a psychoanalyst.
I'm going to ask you to pretend to be Nostradamus now.
To prognosticate.
Do you think the Democrats would try again this year or in 2024 what they did in 2020 and say, you know, governors, Democrat governors decide let's mail out millions of mail-out ballots or do you think the American people will smell a rat?
I think the latter, Sebastian.
I think if they tried that again, they would absolutely sink themselves on this ongoing argument about what happened in 2020.
If they try it again, this time, the whole Republican Party, whether they're pro-Trump or not, it'll be directed against all of them.
I mean, Trump's not running, so it would be against the Republican candidates throughout the country.
And the uproar would be such that not only would it force them to retreat tactically in the various states where they were trying to do that, but it would really turn the argument decisively in favor of those who are claiming, as you and I do, that there was something seriously wrong with the last presidential election.
And that mighty, as I've described it, almost totalitarian effort to suppress Trump's complaint by saying, oh, well, all Giuliani's actions failed, as if that was the main issue, and simply ignoring the constitutionality or otherwise of, as you said a minute ago, having Governors do what under the Constitution the state legislatures have to do, or in some cases courts do it rather than the legislatures.
That argument would be decisively lost by the Democrats.
And their whole mythology about January 6 being an insurrection, just out of sour grapes because Trump lost fair and square and wouldn't admit it, all of that nonsense, that rubbish, would go down the drain.
So I don't think they'll try it again.
I don't think they would try it in a non-presidential year.
And incidentally, the idea of putting poor, you know, wobbly at the knees, battered and scarred Fauci up there one more time to try it is an insane tactic.
I don't think 20% of the country believe a word that man says.
Let's drill down on not just the question of Fauci, CDC and the next virus.
So this is a CBS poll of all On the generic ballot 2022 looking by demographic which has You've written books on FDR on Nixon on President Trump.
So how significant is it that we have found that the Democrats are now neck and neck with the GOP when it comes to the Hispanic vote.
And not only that, Biden, according to this poll, Conrad, is less popular amongst Hispanics than any other demographic including age and gender.
How could that play into the next two elections?
Very significantly.
The Hispanics, I believe, are a total of rather more than 20 percent of the entire electorate.
And obviously that is a very big block, and it's been pretty reliable for the Democrats.
But this gets – I don't want to be glib about this, but this gets into sectarian matters as well.
I mean, you mentioned FDR.
He personally didn't particularly like Franco in the Spanish Civil War, but because the Republicans committed many outrages against the Catholic Church, the Roman Catholic population of America, which was a quarter of the total, but over 80% of them were pro-Roosevelt, they favored Franco over the other side.
So he studiously steered around the whole issue when all of his, you know, the left-wing part of his advisors were urging him to be more liberal about the whole thing.
And, of course, he was right.
He had to protect his bloc, and he did it.
The Democrats, even though Biden claims to be a follower of Roosevelt, I mean, he doesn't have 5 percent of Roosevelt's tactical skill, let alone his intelligence or his allure as a leader.
But he made a terrible mistake here.
I mean, these people, the Hispanic community, are basically quite religiously conservative.
You know, they think throwing Roe v. Wade at it was a good idea.
And the Democrats are just spitting in their face all the time.
They don't like an open border.
That's not how they got there.
They don't like abortion.
And they don't like the whole wokeness thing.
I mean, they're intelligent traditionalists, and they're going to become a rock-solid pillar of the Republicans if the Democrats don't come to their senses.
Yeah, and it is something I don't think the Democrat Party is ready for.
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Yep.
Almost have the Democrats worried.
Did that go okay?
Yes, excellent.
I was just saying that CBS poll must have the Democrats very concerned.
They've got to be quaking in their shoes unless they've lost their mind.
Look, have you got any read on what Sinema's doing, as she said?
No, no, I can't.
I have no visibility on that.
It's incredible.
I didn't trust Mansion.
I always thought he was wobbly, so I'm not surprised that he finally came.
She's pretty flaky, too.
I mean, she's a bisexual.
I mean, it's none of my business.
I don't care what anyone's sex is, but you get the impression that she's a bit unpredictable.
To say the least.
That's the diplomatic way of putting it.
Well, look, I meant what I said.
It sounds like whistling past the graveyard, but if they actually enact this stuff, you know, it's the old thing.
Be careful what you wish for.
I mean, it will be a disaster.
But I just don't understand how there can't be anybody with a sense of just normalcy in that body politic.
Why?
I don't think there is.
I mean, I think that they must have some good Governors.
I mean, frankly, I can't stand the Democratic governors I see.
I can't stand Murphy.
I can't stand that jackass in Pennsylvania.
God protect me from this woman in New York.
And Pritzker.
He's a disgrace.
He's so terrible.
But outside of governors, I mean, I'm talking about the DNC.
There just doesn't seem to be anybody with any sense.
I think the party in Washington It's completely rotted away.
I don't see... That Hispanic congressman from the border... Myra Flores.
I had her on my TV show.
No, no, no.
She's a Republican.
There's a Democrat who's... Oh, yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
I know who you mean.
Gonzalez or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he's alright.
I mean, he would be fine.
Right, but he's not in a position of influence.
No, no, but I mean, apart from a few stragglers like that, the Washington party's going to pieces.
There must be some Democrats out in the country somewhere that are alright.
I mean, I can't stand the governor of Michigan, but she is a Mount Rushmore figure compared to these guys.
Yeah, I think they have to have a complete collapse before they rebuild themselves.
Well, that's what happens.
I mean, that's what happened to them in 72.
Now, unfortunate that they were saved by that Watergate nonsense, but you're right.
I mean, these parties come back, you know.
They lose badly.
Yes.
They suck.
Right.
Thank you, Conrad.
Okay, Sebastian.
God bless.
See you next week.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
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Mr. G, that cut I played of Fauci talking about how you've got to check the CDC website every day, and then if you see that you're in a danger zone, you've got to put your mask on indoors.
I just don't get it.
I mean, why doesn't this guy just shut up and disappear?
Do you have any idea what's going on in that little man's mind?
Who is really going to check that anyway?
Nobody!
I know.
To see if you're in a red zone or an orange zone, it's ridiculous.
So do you have any idea what he's thinking or why he's saying what he's saying?
Is he just trying to be, I don't know, an attention getter?
You know, at this point, I can't still believe that he's still pounding the mask thing.
I mean, they got rid of it on airplanes.
Nobody wants to do the masks anymore.
Right.
So you don't have any guess why he's doing what he's doing?
I'm not always right.
I usually have at least a guess.
I have no idea with this one.
I can't even figure it out.
All right.
Thank you, buddy.
Let's go to Derek, Arizona.
Welcome to America First.
Well, thank you.
Thank you for taking my call.
This is actually the first time that I listened to you the first day, and I thought that you sounded highly intelligent, so I thought I'd call in.
That's always a bad thing, isn't it, Jeff?
When they compliment you up front, then that's always a bad sign.
Go ahead.
I moved to Arizona from Seattle in 2011, and I brought politics with me.
And as you know, we have two Democratic senators in Arizona.
Well, I voted for Trump the first time.
I did not vote for him the second time.
And ABC 15, the local ABC station here, did a study.
And they said that in Maricopa County, the wealthier areas, the educated Republicans, which I think I'm educated, I spent nine years in college, did not vote for Trump the second time.
I did not vote for Trump.
We've got a lot of people on the line, Derek.
Can you get to your point?
Yeah, Trump and Trump candidate will not win Arizona.
Biden, if he runs, will beat Trump in Arizona, and a Republican cannot beat Trump in Arizona.
So answer me this question.
I'm curious.
You voted for him in 2016, which was a brave thing to do, but you didn't vote for him after four years.
I don't get it.
So was the most powerful economy the world's ever seen, the destruction of ISIS, the securing of the border, the stock market at its record?
Why didn't you vote for him a second time?
I'm curious, Derek.
Can you explain that to me?
Yes.
It's because I have a daughter who's five and I... You're breaking up.
You're breaking up.
Say it again.
Why did you not vote for him after four years of success?
Because of the way he treats women.
I have a daughter who's five... The way he treats women?
What are you talking about?
What did he do in office to women?
Please let me finish.
Please let me finish.
No, I don't have time for you to finish and bloviate.
What did he do in the four years in office that you didn't know about when you voted for him the first time?
I did not lie.
You're a provocateur.
Goodbye, Derek.
Brent, line two.
Hellfire Jinsu Gorka!
I like that.
That's very kind.
What do you bring to us today, Brent?
Well, I want to talk about the Democrats' big brain tough guy, Biden, who is greenlighting and guaranteeing Iran's acquiring nuclear weapons and delivery systems, which they are now threatening to nuke New York and turn New York into a hellish ruin, as tweeted by Carolyn Glick yesterday and reported by David Mark in Israel Unwired.
If Biden wants to prove he gives a damn about America, instead of snuffing al-Zuhairi, it is time he sends a Jinsu Hellfire missile to slice and dice the Ayatollah Khomeini.
You mean we shouldn't send pallets of cash like Obama, his boss did?
Negative.
Negative.
Yeah, look, we love Carolyn Glick.
She's a superstar.
We need to get her back on the show.
But yes, Iran has threatened to turn New York into a sheet of glass.
It's just bravado.
It's just saber-rattling.
But yes, they wish to destroy America.
At the end of the day, we need leadership back in the White House.
They were the mullahs, the IRGC.
We're afraid of my former boss, President Trump.
It's very simple.
When we were in the White House, when America first prevailed, our enemies, doesn't matter who it is, Russia, North Korea, Iran, doesn't matter, they were afraid of us.
And our friends were treated like friends.
All of that has been reversed.
Thank you, Brent.
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You weren't, Mike wasn't on yet, I just heard Uncle Tom.
Yeah, who sent you the copy for that?
Phil.
Phil, okay.
Yeah, I have trouble understanding what that caller was getting at.
Well, it was just garbage.
His treatment of women?
What, in office?
What, by making his daughter Special Advisor to the President?
I was willing to almost concede at some point, like with what he said, that like, oh, Arizona's a swing state, so like, so-called radicals won't win, but I mean, I don't think that's... He didn't vote from the first time, he was lying.
Of course he didn't.
I know.
Alright, we've got him on the line.
Alright.
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So you've heard me say, you know, We want to win in the midterms, I get it, and we'll crush them and then we'll take over the committees, we'll have investigations.
I don't have much faith in those because another committee, another subpoena, I want people arrested, I want people thrown in jail like Alejandro Mayorkas.
But if you're going to have a hearing in Congress with organizations like the FBI that have been corrupted, this is how you do it.
A dozen FBI informants involved in the process, undercover FBI agent, several of them, one of whom taught, purported to teach how to make a bomb and used a bomb video produced by the FBI.
At one point, according to the New York Times, there was a nighttime surveillance at Governor Whitman's vacation cabin and four of the participants were informants, including Big Dan, or undercover agents.
At one point when the group was sort of falling apart in August 2020, the FBI handler congratulated Big Dan, said, quote, look at you bringing people together.
He congratulated him for breathing new life into the plot.
Not as well known, the same FBI agent, Jason Chambers, coached Big Dan in a parallel scheme to recruit folks into a contrived plot against former Virginia Governor Northam.
The person who refused to answer questions was Assistant Attorney General Matt Olson, and the man asking the questions was our current guest.
We are delighted to have him with us, representing the 9th Congressional District of North Carolina, Congressman Dan Bishop.
Welcome to America First.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Really great to be with you.
Appreciate the chance.
All right, so I want everybody to watch the full back and forth where this person refuses to answer questions as the person who's in charge of these operations.
Let me ask the question that I posited in the introduction.
Beyond showing these people up for who they are as corrupt, what is the difference that you can make with these testimonies?
Do we have to wait for the midterms?
And what's going to change then, Congressman Bishop?
Well, it's a very fair question, Dr. Gorka.
And I've gotten, you know, some people said, really great job.
You just gave me kudos in your intro.
I really didn't do that great of a job, to be honest with you.
You did your job, which is more than most.
Well, but it's a start.
That's the thing, is it's only a start.
I think the enthusiastic response to this is because people are so fed up and so anxious for something to change.
And yet, you know, Hey, all he had to say was, well, that case is still active.
Therefore, I can't answer a single thing.
And he said it over and over again.
But it putting those questions out there, at least gets it on the table.
And they know that the American people are paying attention to it and are aware of it.
You know, I haven't been in the majority.
Dr. Gorka's been there three years.
And we'll see.
I'm told, you know, I'm digging into what the oversight process allows us to do.
I think we can haul people like that into depositions, and we can actually spend enough time to get actual answers, and we can force them to answer us.
But it's a slow process.
I don't know that I've got the full answer there.
You probably know more than I do, given your experiences.
All I know is you've got to have You've got to be fighting mad about it.
You've got to be ready to go.
And so I'm ready to go.
All right.
Follow this man, Rep Dan Bishop on Twitter, danbishop.house.gov.
So let's talk about what happens after the midterms.
I ask this of everybody who is clearly, you are clearly America first.
You're more of a citizen than you are a politician, which is a good thing.
Exactly.
What is the power relationship?
I ask everybody who comes on this show who's America first, but what is the power relationship between MAGA and the establishment Rhino class?
President Trump changed everything in 2015-2016.
Are the good guys winning?
Where is it at?
How much work is there still to go, Congressman?
And again, I think your insights, you're sort of giving me a leading question there because you know how far we have to go within the Republican conference.
I'm going to be on the team among Republicans, but I'm also going to push the team.
There's a lot in Washington that is obstacle after obstacle to accountability.
But I will tell you this, the reason I'm on the Judiciary Committee is because that's where I wanted to be.
Jim Jordan is the ranking member.
I've gotten to know Jim very well.
He's a fighter.
He's a humble guy.
When we have, when he's got the gavel, we're going to have power to do that.
We, you know, in the minority, you have no power whatsoever.
You don't have any power of law to require the government bureaucrats to give you anything.
Once you're in the majority, you do.
And so I've had, it's yet to see, you know, whether or not we'll face obstacles.
from elsewhere within the Republican conference.
But I know Jim wants to get at it.
And they did before.
You know, there were things that they discovered.
If you look back to what all happened surrounding, you know, Devin Nunes and some of the efforts he made and accomplished and stuff around the impeachment time and deposition.
So I think we just got to be very active about it.
And I'm hopeful and I'm optimistic that we can get the information and then with the information, make a case for real reform and get a White House and then get after that.
You raised some very, very serious questions about the Whitmer case, January 6th, the payment of informants and individuals that were part of a clear provocation by certain agencies.
Give us a number, Congressman.
How much do we know of the facts of what led up to January 6th and what happened on January 6th?
Is it 50%?
10%?
How much is still hidden and needs to be investigated?
I think the only stuff that has come out through the sham of a committee that Liz Cheney serves as the chief cheerleader for is just stuff that they wanted to try to concoct or to shake to destroy Donald Trump as a political factor.
Nothing.
We don't know.
There's tens of thousands of hours of video that we haven't seen.
They're keeping it secret.
We don't know why Nancy Pelosi and sergeants at arms offices didn't prepare the Capitol.
We don't know why Muriel Bowser turned down the National Guard that was offered in advance by President Trump.
We don't know any of the material points, nothing.
And I think we have to find those out, too.
We don't know what happened with Ray Epps.
We don't know what happened with the scaffolding commander.
I got lots of questions there as well.
Well, we like the cut of your jib, sir.
You are asking those questions very forcefully.
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How did you do that, Jeff?
Did you know that we were going to hit Zawahiri?
Is that why you booked the former head of the CIA Counterterrorism Center for today's one-on-one?
How did you know that?
You always got to be looking in the future.
Absolutely.
I'm impressed.
He's got a crystal ball or two.
Let's go to your calls at George Phoenix, line one.
Yes, my name is George Payton.
No, you do not give a last name on radio.
You didn't say that.
George, please don't do that.
Why are you calling this show?
I voted a little while ago, I was given a paper ballot, I filled it out, I took it to turn it in, and instead of putting it in a box to be counted, they put it in a Moderna machine.
Sorry, sorry, Moderna makes medicine.
Say that again?
Whatever the name of the machine is that is accused of cheating from Canada.
You mean Dominion?
Dominion machine.
I'm sorry, I apologize.
They put it in a Dominion machine to be counted.
The guy said, don't worry about it.
I do worry about it.
As long as they use those machines, we will never win the Republican election.
Well, that's not true because we won in Virginia, but we do have to be on our game.
John, Tennessee, line four.
Yes, sir.
Real quick, Dr. G. I came to a conclusion this past week with all the murdering of the English language as done by the Democrats, the most recent offense being the renaming or redefinition of recession.
Yes.
It all started back with Bill Clinton and what is the meaning of the word is.
Right.
And he faced no consequences for it.
Everybody was like, oh, ha, ha, ha, that's just Bill Clinton.
Therefore the seeds were planted for the destruction of the English language.
Lay it at his feet.
Yeah, I think it started a little bit before Bill Clinton.
I think it started with George Orwell's understanding of what the Soviets were doing to language in his book 1984, even Animal Farm.
But yeah, Bill Clinton is the highest political individual to redefine language to mean whatever the Democrat Party needs it to mean, which is Well, you know, the negation of truth.
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We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. - the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the Let me say it again.
The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
We have been working on something big.
Show me the money.
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True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
No one has more data than we do.
We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
What is a mule?
A person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.
This is not grandma out walking her dog.
Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
This is organized crime.
Do you have video evidence?
Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
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Well, last weekend we had guests at the Gawker household from the UK, the land of my birth, the hosts of the best podcast outside the United States.
It's called Trigonometry, a great name.
It's Constantin Kissin and Francis Foster.
And they're here for a couple of weeks.
They were on Joe Rogan's show just yesterday.
But I decided to do something fun with them.
I took them to the gun show, the nation's biggest gun show.
Annette, thank you for being such an amazing hostess.
And for them to come from a country where basically guns are illegal, you can't even buy a handgun, it was quite the culture shock.
And then after that, I said, well, looking at guns, that's not enough.
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So we went to a private range where a SEAL who had formerly run the BUDS selection course for the SEALs, you know who you are, Force Chief Steve, took these young gentlemen through
a basic handgun course and they acquitted themselves handsomely and then afterwards while we're chatting a chief says to me you know there's somebody you should contact you should connect with and i'm happy to help you and get him on your show he's a legend in the national security community of course i'd heard of him but we are delighted to have enrique rick prado on one-on-one here on america first welcome mr prado
Thank you very much, Doctor.
Thank you for having me on, and Steve may be exaggerating a little bit because he happens to be my best friend, so...
That's all right.
We trust SEALs.
A little bit of embellishment is fine, but anybody who runs the BUDS course is a serious individual.
So you have a fascinating background.
We'll talk about how you came to America.
You've got a book out called Black Ops.
Everybody has to check out this book, Black Ops, The Life of a CIA Shadow Warrior, former head of CTC.
That's the Counterterrorism Center at the CIA.
But first, Just for those who aren't familiar, who haven't read your book, will you tell us a little bit about your national security career in the shadows?
Yes, sir.
I did 24 years at CIA.
I started out as a paramilitary officer.
I'm a former para-rescueman.
So I came in through the paramilitary side, special activities division, which is, for lack of a better word, is the special operations forces for CIA.
Everybody that's drafted is from what is now called SOCOM.
I have six overseas tours.
I've been a chief of station.
I've been a deputy chief of station twice.
I am a plank owner of the Bin Laden Task Force, which I started with Mike Sawyer in 1996, January of 1996.
And when 9-11 happened, I was chief of operations of the Counter-Terrorist Center.
Colford Black was my boss.
After those 24 years, I spent another nine years doing exactly the same thing, mostly for the military side as an SME, but actually doing the work, not just teaching, but actually operating with the team.
I have your detailed curriculum vitae, your resume in front of me, and I just want to read a couple of things on the record when it comes to your military training, because for a PM, for a former paramilitary of the CIA, it is rather something else.
Qualifications for Rick include Airborne, SCUBA, Advanced Combat Medical Rescue, SEER, Jungle Survival, U.S.
Air Force Elite Pararescue, on and on and on.
An incredible record.
Rick, if I may call you Rick, will you give us a Agreed.
You were there.
You're a plank holder.
You were there chasing terrorists, finding terrorists.
How would you rate America today in terms of its intelligence capabilities?
I served for five and a half years in the DoD as a counterterrorism, as a professor of irregular warfare in CT.
And my conclusion after 20 years of the GWAT, and you can rip it apart if you're prepared to because you have the qualifications, is the following.
As a nation, as practitioners, whether it's JSOC, SOCOM, whoever it is, America has become preeminent in the find-and-fix-and-finish.
When it comes to direct action, if you get sex, death, or POTUS presidential sign-off, if we know where you are, we can kill you anywhere in the world within 72 hours.
That is how good we are.
Other nations dream of our capabilities, although Mossad's pretty good.
However, however, there is a... So we are AA++++ when it comes to the kinetic part of national security and counter-terrorism especially.
However...
I cannot be that generous when it comes to understanding the enemy.
And I don't just mean the jihadis, but even there I saw massive weaknesses inside the IC, the intelligence community, in terms of understanding the ideology of the enemy.
And today we don't spend requisite amounts of time on understanding the strategy and the worldview of things like the Iranian Republican Guard or how the Chinese military thinks.
So in terms of You know, steel on target, A+.
In terms of getting inside the mind of our enemy, not so hot.
Could you give us your grades for how we are as an international national security performer?
Well, you hit it on the spot when it comes to the kinetic aspect of our business.
We are second to none.
And when I say that, I also include our Special Operations Forces because, again, they've been fighting the GWAT for over 20 years, which people tend to forget.
I think that what you are describing, most likely on the knowledge base on our enemy's culture, it's not that we don't understand it, it's that our leaders do not Listen to it.
I know the analysts, the quality of the analysts we have in the agency are scary smart.
Guys like Mike Sawyer, who was the one that really discovered who Bin Laden was and what he was up to, and he was right until he was proven right.
So, unfortunately, when you have organizations like the agency Or even the FBI not being run by people who are internal, political appointees.
In my opinion, one of the problems we have is those political appointees that we have at the head of our agency are people that owe their allegiance to whoever put them there.
And they will always look through the optic of that politics.
And you cannot do operations, especially special operations, through the optic of politics.
So, I will defend my analysts to the end.
I think that they're incredibly well-rounded and in-depth.
But the flow up is not always what it should be.
Yeah.
What about the, and you can leave this at the political level or the seventh floor or whatever you want to do, what I saw again and again and again, and I even saw this at lower down levels, is this propensity in the intelligence community for mirror imaging.
An expectation that, well, if that's how society works in New Jersey, that's how it's going to work in the Hazara regions of Afghanistan.
This expectation that if You know, an Afghan leader or a Syrian leader says, hey, I want to be your buddy.
They actually mean they want to be your buddy, because here in America, that's what it means.
Do you not see a certain weakness in terms of expectations that are unrealistic and based upon American culture?
I see the political decisions made on that almost constantly.
And, you know, unfortunately, I think that that's one of the American traits.
Yeah.
We actually believe that everybody is like us.
And those of us like yourself and myself who have traveled widely and dealt with many, many cultures, we know that what works in one place doesn't work on the other.
The way that I recruited somebody for North Korea operations is very different than the terrorists that I recruited in Latin America.
One was through, you know, one way and the other.
So I think our men and women on the ground understand the culture.
But there's been changes in the agency that dilute that.
For example, we were always a geographically based organization.
That meant that if you came into the EUR division or Africa division or Latin American division, you did 90% of your career in that area, the operational area.
And that gives you the depth not only in language and the depth in culture, but it also gives you the depth in connectivity to people that you have met throughout the years.
So when you become a chief of station, you have that capability.
But again, I think that it is an American trait that we tend to see everybody the same.
And sometimes we tend to see our enemies as Inferior.
And that's a deadly sin.
The thought that terrorists are camel jockeys, like I've heard people say, is the most asinine thing that you could say.
They did fly planes into our buildings.
It's dangerous to mirror image, and it's very, very dangerous to underestimate.
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Mr. Prado, I deliberately – I don't rehearse my interviews.
I don't clear comments or talking points with our guests because that's just not authentic.
I did say one thing with with you, I said I want to talk about your professional background first and then I want to talk about your family because That's the really interesting thing for me, how you got to be where you are as a station chief, as a man who's a plank holder, you know, of the organizational elements, tracking down bin Laden, hunting the jihadis.
But Mr. Prado, you weren't born here, were you?
No, as a matter of fact, Doctor, I am a firm believer that God put my life on the path that he wanted me to follow.
And, but like most things that God gives you, he never gives you something that you cannot handle.
And I think that my beginning in Cuba, I was born in Cuba, 1951.
I was there when the Castro revolution was going on.
I saw at the age of seven, firefights and bodies getting shot two feet in front of my face.
So I think that throughout my life, God started stealing me to that end, you know, forging my metal to that end.
As impactful as seeing violence, revolutionary violence, in front of a seven, eight-year-old, I think what opened my eyes even more was when my father decided to leave Cuba because Everything had gone to, you know, persecution of any opposition parties, liquidations of any former enemies.
It was a very brutal, repressive regime, which immediately confiscated every single business in Cuba and made it a national asset, including my dad's small coffee roasting company.
And I will tell you, the first time that we went to Havana with the intent of leaving, because we've been there before, I was probably eight or nine years old when I saw three men hanging from a tree with signs across their chest that said, counter-revolutionaries.
That was the level of oppression.
So that also marked a particular disdain for communism in my part, because I know that it is a monster hiding behind socialism half the time.
But the single most important thing in my life, as far as lessons go, was my father.
My father had a seventh grade education, but he was extremely smart, incredible craftsman, and he had a faith that is incomparable with any of us.
And imagine, I am an only child.
I find that all the best people are.
I happen to be an only child as well.
Well, yeah, but the point here is that my dad was willing to put me on an airplane to a country that he had never been to.
At what age?
How old were you, Rick?
I was 10 years old when I got on that plane.
And what year is this?
This is 1962, April of 1962.
So this is one of the Peter Pan flights?
That is correct.
I am a Peter Pan.
So, a country your father's never been to before, so why does he put you on that plane, Rick?
Freedom.
My dad knew, he had never read Marx or Lenin, but he had definitely had the heart of a lion, and he knew what freedom was.
He knew what we needed to fight for.
And of course that fight was won already to the enemy, but that decision opened up my eyes to the value and the sacrifices made for freedom.
And talk to us about what happened when you arrived here as one of the children on the Peter Pan flights from the 1960s.
What was it like to arrive in this country from communist Cuba?
Well, you know, it's amazing because now that I've had the time, you know, usually as we're going through our careers, introspection is not something we have a lot of luxury to do to entertain.
But now that I've had a little bit of time, I start seeing the different trends there.
And I remember so clearly getting into that airport.
My last picture of my mom and dad on the other side of the glass of what they call the fishbowl.
My mom Crying her eyes out and my dad biting his lip not to cry because I told him if you guys cry I ain't leaving.
Or so my dad tells me I told him.
I don't remember that.
But you know the funny thing is once I saw them and I turned around to walk on that plane I do not recall a single episode.
I don't remember walking to the plane.
I don't remember where I sat on the plane.
I don't remember landing in Miami.
My cognitive Memory comes in when I come out of the gate and there's a priest there Waiting for for me and there was three other three other kids two girls and another guy another kid To take us to a local camp in our case was Florida City I was there for less than two weeks and I was sent to Pueblo, Colorado a sacred heart orphanage in Pueblo, Colorado and And that was, again, another culture shock.
I'm again traveling by myself at the age of 10.
I turned 11 at the orphanage.
And, you know, life in an orphanage is not a picnic, especially in a blue-collar town like Pueblo, where you had four or five different cultures and ethnicities.
So it was a pretty quick way of making me grow up.
I want to ask you next what America means to you.
We are talking to Rick Prado, the author of Black Ops, a true legend in the international, in the national security world.
Allegedly his nickname is Dragon.
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Rick, is it true?
I was reading the reviews of your book on Amazon, and I need to know, is your nickname really Dragon?
Yes, it is.
That was actually more my handle.
By the way, Steve was Frog.
Well, of course he's Frog.
He's a seal.
They're all frogs.
Yeah, but mine has been Dragon since the very beginning.
Was that because of your temper?
I need to know why you call sign Dragon, Rick.
Well, if you ask my wife, she would say it's my temper.
But I think it was mostly, I've been in the martial arts since I was a young kid.
And I guess they associated that, you know, the dragon with the martial arts kind of stuff.
I actually don't know.
Where it even started, but it started fairly early on.
All right, I could talk to you for hours.
I want everybody to get the book.
Seriously, guys, you've got to get the book, Black Ops.
But let me ask you this, because I'm an immigrant to this country.
I chose this country.
For me, it truly is the greatest nation on God's green earth.
After what you've done, after what you've put yourself through, what your body's been through, after government service, It means my life.
It means the life of my family.
I'm gonna ask you, Enrique Rick Prado, what does this nation, what does America mean to you? - It means my life, it means the life of my family.
Most importantly, I honestly believe that it means the life of the rest of the world.
I've often prayed that God not forsake the United States because the day that God forsakes the United States, he's forsaken the world.
We're the only guys out there, in spite of our wars, in spite of our shortcomings, who wear the white hat.
And for us, I will tell you, the agency has a huge advantage in recruiting over the Russians and the Soviets—I'm sorry, the Russians and the Chinese, because most people overseas see the U.S.
as their only hope.
And for me, being a small part of that, paying back for this country, I haven't had a job that wasn't civil service for 51 years.
I'm 71, and I went into the military at the age of 20.
So, for me, this country means everything.
I have given it 51 years of effort, including the book Adventure.
But if I am called on to fight tomorrow, I will be there.
My family follows suit.
Both my boys are military.
My daughter is a school principal.
So, we have a family of service, and we still haven't done enough.
As far as I'm concerned.
The dragon is always ready.
Mr. Prado, let me get a little bit political, if I may.
So, in that case, given your passion for this nation that you clearly love and are prepared to fight for and die for, how do you react to things such as a recent president, a recent commander-in-chief in his first international trip going on a, quote, apology tour, as Obama did, How do you react to what is pretty clearly the woke-ification, the politicization of not just the military in our schools but also the intelligence community?
For example, we have the recruiting advertisements from the US Army about a A female corporal who has two mothers, we've got the CIA recruiting videos about a gay man who talks about pride in his pronouns and his homosexuality, never mentioned service to the nation, and then of course we've got everything else that's happening in our schools when it comes to Yeah, I actually think it's even bigger than just our country, but let's put our country always first.
How worried are you in terms of this distorted, perverted vision of America creeping into not just our schools, but even the national security establishment?
You know, I actually think it's even bigger than just our country.
But let's put our country always first.
It scares the hell out of me.
Because I, as a child in Cuba, subsequently being kind of a street kid that knew the hard sides of life, I learned very early on that the first thing that you have to be is respected.
Not liked, but respected.
And when the United States suffers from weak leadership, and I will bring to point Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter was a much more benign president than some.
But he was also a very naive man.
And look what happened.
Immediately, immediately, Afghanistan was invaded by Russia.
We lost the Panama Canal.
And, you know, the hostages that Iran took were released the day that Reagan came to power.
What does that tell you?
It is our posture.
When we go overseas And we show that we are who we are, and we are proud of what we are.
We've got nothing to be ashamed of.
We have fought three wars, including the 20-some years of GWAT, for not only the United States, but the sake of the world.
Yeah, we have nothing to be ashamed of.
And as a listener, as a caller called into this show, and it's one of our favorite liners that we use again and again and again, an immigrant who said, who's also served this nation in uniform said, This nation, America, owes me nothing.
I owe it everything.
And that's why America is unique.
The website is rickprado.com.
That's R-I-C-P-R-A-D-O, rickprado.com.
And the book is Black Ops.
Let's put it back up on the screen.
National bestseller, The Life of a CIA Shadow Warrior by CIA Counterterrorist Chief of Operations, Rick Prado.
Let's play the cut.
I don't expect Mr. Putin to acknowledge it.
He's, you know, he's going to deny, deny, deny.
But for the President of the United States to continue to prevaricate on this issue, I think does a great injustice and a disservice to the men and women of the intelligence law enforcement community, and does a great disservice to the citizens of the United States.
And that's why I said it was nothing short of treasonous.
That is a clip that will go down in infamy as far as I am concerned.
That is a former CIA director not long after leaving office with all of his clearances intact on national television calling the newly elected president chosen by 64 million Americans Treasonous, calling President Trump a traitor.
That is, of course, John Brennan, who just before he was hired by the CIA in the 1980s, admitted in a polygraph that he had voted for the Communist Party presidential candidate in America.
How he was allowed into the CIA beggars belief, but I play that clip because I have a very tough question to ask you, Mr. Prado.
I want to ask you, what keeps you As a former practitioner of decades, you said 51 years of service to the nation.
What keeps you most awake at night?
Is it, and I'll give you two choices, and if they're not good enough, you can add another one.
Is it gentlemen like that, and I use that word very loosely, who are undermining the national interest of the United States from the position of being a former DCI, former Director of Central Intelligence.
Is it the internal rot?
Is it the internal anti-Americanism that is most bothersome to you?
Or is it China?
Or Iran?
Or North Korea?
Or the global jihadi movement?
What should we focus on?
In the military you're fully aware we have, you know, the five meter target and we have the target that's, you know, 20 clicks away over the horizon.
What for you is the immediate action five meter target that most concerns you?
I will tell you that the politics side of it scares me.
Like I just said a few minutes ago, when you have weak leadership, you have weak organizations, you have no allies in the world, And under President Trump, whether people like his character or not, aside of the economics side, the benefits of his tenure, we were again being respected.
You know, and for our agency, being respected overseas as a government is very important, because when we do liaison with our counterparts out there, they're trying to find a common evil.
And you get an administration like the current one that pulled out of Afghanistan the way that it did, that message resonates through the whole world that the United States cannot be trusted as a partner fighting evil.
So, for me, the politics will always reign because, look, this country will never have a shortage of warriors.
Never.
I worked for seven years at Fort Bragg teaching after my second retirement.
And I'm in awe of the warriors that we have in our country.
But leadership is what we lack.
We lack leadership.
And for me, as far as focus, unfortunately, we have to focus on everything.
You know, the Cubans only have one enemy, the United States.
The United States has multiple enemies.
A lot of people think that we took our eyes off of the Russian and the Chinese phenomena or the Iranian phenomena to fight terrorism.
That's not exactly true.
The focus, the primary focus, was counterterrorism because our operational directives were, first, you have to save people's lives.
You know, communism is like a cancer.
You know, if you're unlucky to get it, you may be able to beat it, but you have years to do that in treatment.
Terrorism is like getting shot.
You have to react now or you're not going to make it.
So, yes, the focus on terrorism was primary, but we still kept very strong programs against the Russians and against the Chinese.
However, all this can be so quickly undermined—and you're seeing it right here—from the strength that we were projecting worldwide to the weakness that we're projecting now, and the fact that how long after this election did Putin decide to attack Ukraine?
Just a few months.
It was in February.
Yes, sir.
And that was my analogy with Carter.
Look, we are surrounded by predators.
And if they see our leaders as food, they're going to eat us.
And to make a side comment on Mr. Brennan, Mr. Brennan was not our best DCI by a long shot, because he began that polarization of the agency.
And he completely restructured it with these centers inside the agency.
Because he was a failed operations guy, he tried to turn analysts into dual-headed operators as well.
From talking to my buddies inside the IC, it was a disaster for the CIA.
Yeah, he never made it to the Ops chain.
He always resented that.
He was an analyst.
He got his senior grade as a coffee boy up there on the seventh floor.
I know him personally, but I judge him by his post-agency profession, not as a leader or anything like that, using the term loosely.
But again, we have to have strong leadership because that flows downhill.
And our warriors deserve that kind of leadership.
We all admire individuals that stand up for us, you know, that don't defund the police and demoralize our police, that does this woke pushes that kind of mentality to our military, which is our only line of defense outside our borders.
You've made it clear that the political threat is what really, really disturbs you.
If we put that to the side for a second, externally, which one is the biggest threat for you of all of our international enemies?
China.
China has an advantage that few other countries have.
First of all, they've been an imperial power for Thousand years, if not more.
That's all they understand.
That is their goal.
They have literally hundred-year plans.
Literally, 100-year plans, whereas we in the United States can only afford three-year plans, because on the fourth year, you have to politic for your election and winning in Congress and winning in the Senate.
They don't have that.
They don't have a congressional oversight.
Their intelligence services have absolutely no restrictions about anything that they can do or will do.
And here, as soon as we win an election, we're worried about winning the next election the very next day.
And if we're in the private sector, you're thinking about the next quarter.
Maybe that's the longest range planning you do.
Nations like Iran, like China, plan in centuries.
It's a very different way of doing business, and it shows.
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Mr Prado, last question to those who...
Are immigrants who want to come here legally to live the American dream as you have lived it, or to those here in America who are concerned about the politicization of everything and think that America's on the downslope and you can't serve it in government, you can't serve it in uniform, given your 50 years, what do you say to those people who are disenchanted and have lost heart?
Well, I honestly believe that all you have to do is look at what the immigration in to the United States compared to the immigration out to other countries.
So if people are so unhappy here, there's a lot of other choices.
There's Mexico, there's Venezuela, there's all kinds of great socialist countries that will welcome individuals that don't have a value for what this country really represents.
You know, the problem, the single problem, the biggest problem we have in this country is we do not know how good we have it.
Because the average American does not travel to what our past president called shitholes.
They don't understand the contrast between living in even Italy, which is a first world country, to living in the United States.
Yeah, it's the perspective when you live in a nation that is the size of a continent.
I think the conventional wisdom or the urban legend, I haven't checked it, but I think it's true.
George W. Bush hadn't applied for a passport before he became the Commander-in-Chief.
And, you know, if your country is the size of America, maybe you don't need to.
But if you've traveled the world like Rick has, like I have, you understand.
And if you're an immigrant, You understand it even better.
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