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Thank you.
Thank you.
If someone had told me a scant four years ago...
That I would be sitting in front of a microphone broadcasting across the greatest nation in the world every single day on a syndicated radio show.
I would have said, uh, where's the hidden camera?
And, uh, are you booked in to the funny farm?
Have you escaped from your rubber room?
I am doing that every single day now for the last three and a half years, and I love it.
Don't tell the people I work for I would pay to do this job.
I loved talk radio as a child.
I used to listen to a cheesy little plastic transistor under my pillow into the wee hours.
Eight-year-old, and I'm blessed to be where I am today.
Before I started broadcasting, I think I had just signed a contract with the great people at Salem, and I was at an event with a certain person you are about to hear from, and we were sitting at a cigar bar in California.
This man has an encyclopedic knowledge of all the best cigar bars, and he said, Sebastian, do you know what you and I do for a living?
We get to tell people what we think, and we get paid to do it.
Who was that sagacious man, and how long has he been doing it?
He's Dennis Prager, and it's 40 years.
Rabbi Prager, welcome to America First!
I appreciate everything you said, not to mention the fact that I can now say I have rabbinic ordination from Sebastian Gorka.
Look, I'm a cradle Catholic, but as far as I'm concerned, you are my rabbi.
I'm honored.
I just wanted the audience to know that it's not an official title, but rabbi means teacher, and if I have that role at all in your life, it's a great honor.
Well, you have written an amazing piece on your 40th anniversary of Talk Radio on the things you have learnt in those four decades.
Five big lessons.
I want to talk about a couple of them.
But first, it's not in the article, but you told me how it all started and this peculiar weekend show where you had guests from different denominations.
Will you tell us about that show at the beginning, Dennis?
Because I love the concept.
I began radio at 32, I think, 30, 30, 34 years of age.
And it was a blessing.
Changed my life, obviously.
There was an extremely popular show in Los Angeles on the ABC radio station, KABC there.
And, I mean, so popular that eventually it became the most popular show in Los Angeles, despite the fact that it was broadcast on a Sunday night, the least likely time for people to listen.
But it dominated radio.
It was called Religion on the Line, and it was dominant before I became the host.
I just increased it, but I acknowledge I knew about it, because everybody knew about it.
A priest, a minister, and a rabbi would appear, different ones each week, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, and the host.
The host that they were thinking of letting go was secular and anti-religious.
And they were looking for a new host.
I don't know if that was the reason, but they were.
And by sheer good luck, my name was brought to the general manager of the station.
And George Green, who is a legend in radio, and for whom I have only the deepest gratitude for my life's journey.
So, he told this woman, Roberta Weintraub, may she rest in peace, the head of education in Los Angeles.
He said, I need somebody who knows religion, knows how to speak, but is not a clergyman.
And she said, I can't believe you're asking that.
I just heard this kid at this Jewish institute here in Los Angeles.
I went for a weekend there.
I heard him lecture.
He's terrific.
Da-da-da-da-da.
And they said, oh good, let's try him out.
And in the middle of the show, the program director slipped me a note.
I wish I still had it.
It changed my life.
Tell them you'll be on next week.
And for ten years to the day, August 82 to August 92, I hosted that show.
It changed my life.
I know it changed many listeners' lives, and it changed my life, because this kid who grew up in an Orthodox Jewish world, which is pretty insular, Fell in love with America's Christians.
That was my introduction to America's Christians, with whom, of course, I now am so at home with, and work with, and align myself with.
And that show was the beginning.
They kept giving me my own show.
In addition to that show, I had five other hours of radio on weekend nights, and then I went national.
The article is Reflections on 40 Years, a talk show host at one of our favorite sites, American Greatness.
We're going to post it right now on my Twitter and Facebook pages.
There's five lessons learned.
I just want to highlight two.
You're going to be with us for a couple of segments.
Talk to us.
Expand upon your fourth observation.
Never underestimate people's intelligence, but never overestimate their knowledge, Dennis.
That was told to me.
It was not original to me.
It turned out to be brilliant.
And I have lived by it every speech and everything I write and in all of my talk radio career.
I never speak down to an audience.
I always assume they will understand even deep concepts.
It's my task to make them clear.
It's my task to explain.
If I say gulag, then on occasion I will have to explain what the gulag archipelago was.
I don't, unfortunately, I don't assume most Americans know what the gulag was.
So I will explain it.
That's the second part.
Don't overestimate how much they know.
But the first part is one of the most important insights I have in life.
I have almost never met a human being with a low intellectual capacity.
Almost everyone is given at birth a perfectly functioning brain.
The problem with people is not brain matter.
It is not IQ.
It is non-clarity, no common sense, and poor values.
But it is not low IQ.
Yeah.
He is the author of a library of works, all of which should be on your library shelf.
The Rational Bible series is one I heartily recommend, whether it's Deuteronomy or Genesis or The Great Good Thing, the book about the United States, and also the creator of Prager University, congratulations Dennis on your brand new deal just announced with Daily Wire for the Prager University videos.
Please support that organization.
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We're going to continue discussing reflections on his 40 years in radio.
But as you heard, his love affair with the Christian community in America, it is totally mutual.
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We will be back with Dennis in a moment.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First.
Do you want the mics on?
Yeah, mics on.
Mics are live on Rumble, gentlemen.
The mics are still hot on the video feed, Dennis.
I'm sorry, what was that?
The microphones are still live on the video feed on Rumble.
I just wanted to give you a heads up.
Oh, that's interesting.
Wait, but only if the camera's on me.
The camera is on you.
You may be reading a newspaper sideways, but we are broadcasting your image across Rumble right now, Dennis.
Hi, everybody.
So, congratulations, sincerely, on the Daily Wire deal.
How long was that in the works?
So, there are two deals.
Which do you mean?
The one with Jordan Peterson on the Bible, or me giving lectures?
No.
I wasn't familiar with the Jordan Peterson one.
Okay, so that's not announced yet.
Okay, yeah.
So, yes, it's a big deal that I will be giving these series of lectures, long lectures.
But you're also, your back catalogue of videos will now be on the Daily Wire, correct?
Yes.
We work together even more now, which is a very healthy thing.
So, uh, look, I've always believed the only competition is with the left, not with other conservatives.
Bingo!
So few people understand that.
I find it so... Well, it's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
I agree with you.
Salem will let me have any conservative on my show, and then when I hear them say, oh, but my company won't let me come on, it's like, how stupid are you?
I'm going to talk about your show.
I'm going to give your channel, you know, more exposure.
How do they think that is good for them to stay in their little silo?
That's right.
That's exactly right.
How are you, by the way?
Hey, did you ever get COVID?
Yeah, I got COVID December 20... whatever it was.
Oh, that's right.
You got hit, right?
You got hit hard.
Well, no, I mean, it wasn't hard.
It was... I mean, we had to cancel Christmas and visiting the in-laws, but I felt a bit flu-y for about three days.
That was it.
My doctor... That was it.
I've been taking hydroxy prophylactically.
I took ivermectin and I was back functioning in five days.
So I've had it twice.
The second time I got a positive test one hour before a lecture.
So you'll love this story.
Do you know about Chabad?
Yes.
Yeah.
So I love Chabad.
They're unique in Jewish life.
And I wanted to help a rabbi who started a brand new Chabad house in my city, La Kenyatta, where there's never been a synagogue or any Jewish organization in its history.
So I said i'll give me give you a free speech publicize it.
Let's raise a lot of money for you to start And he did And then an hour before I felt moral duty because I wasn't feeling well to test and then I called him And I was so sad If I had to cancel it, it would have truly hurt his ability.
I want to hear the end of the story.
Yeah, it's a great end.
After our segment.
Standby, 20 seconds.
20 seconds.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
Hi, this is President Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
He's a great guy.
He's been with me from the beginning.
Listen to him.
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Thank you Mr. President, very kind, very kind.
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We are back with Dennis Prager.
He is celebrating his first 40 years in radio.
The article is at American Greatness.
Follow him on all social media platforms.
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Latest one is the Rational Passover Haggadah.
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Dennis, you're returning to your article.
You talk about what makes for good radio, that it's got to be interesting, it's got to be authentic.
Then, one of the last things you discuss is these predictions for decades now, Dennis, that radio is dead, radio is dying, it is gone forever.
Podcasts may replace it.
However, you do say that what's unique about radio is that we get to hear The voices of our listeners and callers, how important is that and why does that make radio so different?
There is no other forum to hear your fellow American.
It cannot be overstated how important that is.
Now, I can tell you, after 40 years of talk radio, That it is, as my producer would say, people, Dennis, they tune in to your show and every other host show to hear you, not callers.
That is correct.
But it is important that when there are callers, and if they are good, and they are usually good, that that adds tremendously to the show.
To have a dialogue with a guy driving a truck in Arizona and what he thinks?
When else will you ever hear from Americans who are not in the media?
You don't.
It is extremely healthy for the society and, since my criterion, I'd like to happily talk about it because it's a big deal, the significance of being interesting.
And therefore, by the way, if the caller is not interesting, I get rid of that call very quickly.
This is not an insult.
It's a protection of my show.
The show must be interesting, and that includes the caller.
So if the caller just drones on, they're not used to doing this for a living, then I just thank them, and when they inhale, I let them go.
And I mean it.
I wait for an inhale.
On occasion, people don't inhale, which is a problem.
I never quite understand how long people can go without breathing.
But anyway, this is unique.
Talk radio.
You know, when I have conservatives, and this is true all of my career, when I've had conservatives from Europe on my show, I've said, you know what the great difference between Europe and America is, from our perspective, we have talk radio and you don't.
Every single one said that is correct.
Yeah.
Dennis, I want to thank you.
You haven't been on the show for a while.
I want to, in front of all of my audience, thank you for what you did in the last two years, standing up to the propaganda on COVID.
And I want to use you as a sounding board.
For me, as an immigrant who chose this country, the most salutary, the most depressing conclusion I draw after COVID is that Of all the virtues that are important, the one that we seem to have lacked the most recently is courage.
Do you have optimism that we will find that courage again and we will never allow the likes of Fauci or others to destroy livelihoods and to distort and pervert science in the name of power?
I don't know if I'm optimistic about it.
First of all, I'm not necessarily pessimistic, but I don't know if I'm optimistic.
First of all, courage has never been common.
It's the rarest of the good human traits.
There are far more kind people, honest people, loyal people than there are courageous people.
So that's number one.
The media, the despicable mainstream media, and they are despicable, they are on the moral level of Pravda, the Soviet communist newspaper, have suppressed serious discussion of the vaccinations and of the lockdowns.
Only Sweden, on the face of this earth, resisted the herd-like, sheep-like experience of the rest of the Western world, indeed the world, shutting down schools, hurting kids terribly, forcing kids to wear masks, not seeing other kids for almost two years.
This was not allowed to be discussed Therapeutics were not allowed to be discussed.
Doctors who prescribed one of the safest medications in the world, on the World Health Organization's list of the most important drugs ever made, hydroxychloroquine.
Their medical license was threatened.
This is unprecedented, all of this.
If there had been free discussion of the lockdowns, and you recall, I said in April 2020, it's out there, I tweeted this was the greatest mistake, worldwide mistake in history, and I was ridiculed for it, which doesn't mean a damn thing to me, it only means that I'm probably right, and I was right.
The damage done by the lockdowns.
COVID was not the damage.
The lockdowns were the damage.
So, the big problem is not just courage.
Will there be an allowance of free discussion?
If there isn't, then I'm pessimistic.
Well, I want to say thank you to you.
I'm going to make one modification to what you just said.
It's worse than Pravda.
As the child of a man who escaped a communist political prison, those who worked at Pravda had no choice.
Those in the mainstream media, they have a choice to tell the truth and they lie instead.
The books are The Rational Bible, Still the Best Hope, Prager University, Dennis Prager, all over the internet.
I am grateful to what you have taught me.
You are a role model for other broadcasters and other people who are just trying to be good men.
God bless you, Dennis Prager.
Here's to the next 40 years.
Thanks to Sue for making sure you got on the show today.
And do say hi.
Do scratch Otto's head, the most famous dog in radio.
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Tennis?
Yep.
Thank you.
It was an honor.
The delight.
You're looking great.
Have you lost weight?
Yeah.
Good for you.
Thank you.
It is good for me.
Is Sue there?
Is anybody I know there?
Sean is in the broadcast booth.
He's currently naked, however, so thank God the cameras are not on him.
That's standard operating procedure, isn't it?
Yes, unless it gets too cold.
Yeah.
Hi, Sean.
All right.
Can't wait to see you.
Can't wait to see you, Dennis.
Same here, Seth.
Thanks.
Be well.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
All righty.
Three minutes.
We need a promo at some point, Dennis.
Disconnect that Comrex there, so we don't hear the crosstalk.
Yeah.
Nice.
Thank you.
- If the Wiltshire Police would realize how ridiculous this is, What did it need to come to?
Tell us why you escalated it to this level.
Because I don't understand.
I'm close to someone.
45 seconds.
seconds.
Alright, kill them, Lex.
Yep.
Alright, kill kill them.
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Um, Jeff.
What do you think about these prognostications that radio is dead and that podcasts are going to take over?
I mean, we love radio.
That's why we're here.
I know you're a little bit biased because you've been working in radio for how long?
Well, I'm getting older now, so I don't even know, but at least maybe 15 years now, I guess.
Wow!
So, so, so, what do you think?
If you got rid of every radio today, everyone that's big on the radio now will be big on a podcast.
That's all it is.
Ah, see?
Very practical response.
I like it.
However, on podcasts, you don't get to do what I'm gonna do right now.
The call board is on fire.
It is absolutely full.
Let's walk down the numbers.
Al, California, line one.
Is this Sebastian Gorka, VC?
I don't know about VC unless it means very cool, but thank you for calling us, Al.
Alright, I've got two questions.
Did you see the store owner in Norco?
A guy came in to rob him.
He was 80 years old.
And he took a shotgun out and shot the guy.
Ran him off.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Let's tell the full story now.
Guy comes in to rob the convenience store with an AR-15.
The 80-year-old shop owner pulls a shotgun from behind the counter and shoots the guy in less than two seconds.
And he runs out screaming, he shot my arm off!
I was impressed.
And he went to the hospital and his three accomplices are in jail and he's still getting better.
And I'll bet there are people here in California that think the shop owner shouldn't have done that.
Of course!
I think he did just the right thing.
Now here's the second thing that makes me angry.
They showed a British soldier being arrested in England.
An Afghanistan and Iraq war veteran.
And he said, why am I being arrested?
And it showed it was a camera phone.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
We actually have the video.
This is from Lawrence Fox, who's been on the show.
Absolutely mind-blowing this happened in the UK.
So, Al's teed it up nicely.
A former veteran arrested for a social media post.
Let's show the video.
Eric, play cut.
which Hampshire police would realize how ridiculous this is.
- It is ridiculous.
- It is, of course, I'm glad to come to this. - What did it need to come to? - Tell us why he investigated it to this level, because I don't understand.
I posted something that he posted, You come to arrest me, you don't arrest him.
Why has it come to this?
Why am I in cuffs?
Because there's something he shared, then I shared.
Because someone has been caused, obviously, anxiety based upon your social media posts.
That's why you've been arrested.
That veteran is being arrested, quote, as the officer said, for reposting a social media posting that caused someone anxiety, Al.
Outrageous.
What about the first, well, what about Hyde Park Corner?
If you don't like what somebody's saying, just say something back.
Yes, Speaker's Corner, that place in London that has a tradition of allowing people to stand up and make speeches.
This is not the land of Churchill.
Thank you, Al, for reminding us about that story I wanted to cover.
Let's go to Alex in Brooklyn, line two.
Hey, Sebastian.
Thanks for taking the call.
Actually, I don't think talk radio is over.
I think it's far from over.
I think people sitting in their cars love, you know, using the radio when they drive.
I think the car thing is crucial, Alex.
I think as long as Americans drive, we will have talk radio.
Absolutely.
And I also think that, you know, technically you could have calls on a live, live stream on Rumble.
You don't have to, you don't have to necessarily only do it on radio.
You could have callers.
Calling in if you have a live stream, but I also, you know, first about what this guy mentioned about the 80 year old that shot off the arm of the robber.
Yes.
What he did, he didn't only, you know, save himself.
I think he saved a lot, a lot of other store owners that maybe had people that were planning on robbing them that said, Hey, I don't want to get my arm shot off or get hurt because there are people that are armed.
I think for every such a story of this 80 year old man, every time someone is able to defend himself with a gun, At least 10 other robberies are stopped because people that are bad are afraid to... No, I think you're absolutely right, Alex.
I think there is a deterrent effect, and not only is the knock-on deterrent effect.
It's like when, you know, you put that America First yard sign in your front yard or you wear that MAGA hat.
Other people say, oh, I'm not alone.
It strengthens the courage of others.
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I'm sending you an image I'd like you to put in a buffer.
Mm-hmm.
Excuse me, guy.
Alright.
Oh, by the way, speaking of images, we still have the Costner image you want to do it.
Oh, good, yeah.
I wanted to raise that with somebody today.
Aww.
Oh, I want to raise it with Jen Horne.
That's right, that's right.
He's sticking his little tongue out.
Alright, so there is a video of that shop owner on Twitter I might want to use.
Oh, great photograph of Dennis.
Nice.
Oh, Dennis.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Why courage is rare.
It's so rare.
Why courage is so rare.
Here we go.
Here's the guy.
There's a whole lot of people out there.
They've got no clue what it's like to try to run a small business.
And when they're letting these people out, then we've got bad people.
Let's face it, these bad people.
Bad people we don't need.
We need to get them locked up because it's a scary situation when that happens.
Everybody works hard.
They got bills to pay.
These guys are going to come in and take it away from you.
Not here.
There's a whole lot of people out there.
All right.
I have the dog picture.
Nice.
One minute.
Come in with count three, guys.
Come in with cut three, no liner.
and John, you-- 45 seconds.
All right, Colin, Lex. Lex.
All right, Colin.
All right, Colin.
We'll see you next time.
We'll be right back.
This is so interesting.
I have to say, War with China, as well as Russia, was not on my bingo card.
I mean, we need to look back at all those big, thick books written by all the important people from the Brookings Institution, or where's Francis Fukuyama?
Where are all the people that said this was going to be great?
And it's all falling apart.
I go back to 2017.
It was a terrible time.
Yeah, where is Francis Fukuyama?
because of all those Trump tweets, right?
The punishing, relentless, psychological torture that he caused.
Thank God that's gone.
Now we just have inflation, a cold war, a hot war, a raging crime wave.
North Korea's even back.
So thank God, no tweets.
Yeah, where is Francis Fukuyama?
Remember the guy who said, end of history and the last man, no more wars, we've won, back in 1991?
Yeah.
All the quote-unquote experts.
Of course, that is Greg Gutfeld.
I mentioned Otto.
I mentioned Dennis' most famous dog, who just sits there as Dennis does his fireside chats.
Do we have that image, Eric?
Look at that.
Just sent to me by Dennis' wife, Sue.
Aww, what a cuddly little number there.
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Arizona, Dave, line 3.
Welcome to America First!
Thanks so much for taking the call, Dr. Gorka.
I was so happy to see results finally get posted late last night, early this morning, from our corrupt Secretary of State, and can proudly state that Arizona is now ultra-MAGA again.
It's a clean sweep for MAGA, right, Dave?
It's a clean sweep in Arizona.
Top to bottom, yeah.
People in Congress, the Senate nomination, Terry Lake's going to be amazing for the state, get us back on the right track, secure our border, which unfortunately Brnovich and Lord Ducey refuse to do.
I don't know why.
What is going on with Brnovich?
We had him on the show about a year ago.
He talked a good talk, but disappointing, no?
He is a grandstander, my friend.
The only reason he ever talked about election security and securing the border was to position himself to take the next step.
He wanted to defeat Mark Kelly.
But he's just a show pony.
He's cut in the McCain mold.
All talk, no walk.
Just is what it is.
Is Kerry gonna win it?
Oh yeah, she'll clean the clock of Ms.
Katie Holmes.
Unless, of course, Katie Holmes cooks the books.
Because remember, she's currently Secretary of State.
She's the one that sent 63,000 extra ballots to the southern parts of the state after she refused or was complicit in reviewing ballots that didn't contain local races.
She's our main problem, though.
We have to get rid of her.
All right, stay on the line.
I think we need to get Dave one.
He said Ultramaga.
Let's get him one of those Ultramaga t-shirts with President Trump on the front looking like a superhero.
It says Ultramaga 2024.
You can get yours at SebGorkaStore.com, but he deserves one.
All right, let's go down the line.
We've got Sean in New York City.
We love our callers in New York City.
Dr. Gorka, we love you.
Thank you so much for the mug.
Let's get Biden to quit.
I would add, let's cancel the Democrat Party, which is the theme of my phone call today.
I like that.
I like that.
Let's cancel the Democrat Party.
Carry on.
I believe that they are a criminal party, very much like the Nazi Party.
The Nazi Party is outlawed in Germany, and I think we should explore that.
Obviously, it's not the Democrat Party of JFK.
It's the Communist Party.
JFK wouldn't be allowed in this party, Sean.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
He cut taxes and he presided over an economic boom.
Well, hang on, hang on.
Not only that, he hated communists.
These people are communists.
Indeed, indeed.
I was joking about Nancy Pelosi's flight and they were saying, You know, maybe the communists of China are going to shoot her plane down.
Well, it would be like the left canceling the left.
It would be the communists killing a fellow communist.
You know, God forbid.
But that having been said, I really do believe that we have to use the same strong-arm tactics that they use.
The only way that we can win is if we implement the policies of Grant during the Civil War.
Now, obviously, this is not a hot war.
Thank God it's not become a hot war.
But I think politically we have to take the gloves off because we constantly play nice-knife with these guys.
Here's what I've been saying.
We don't undermine our moral values, okay, because then we are no longer the patriots, but no more Marquis of Queensberry rules.
They want to play dirty, we'll play dirty, but we will not do anything that undermines the values we stand for.
But no more, Mr. Nice Guy.
Completely agree.
God bless you, Sean.
Paul in California, line five.
Hello, Sebastian Gorka!
Reflecting on talk radio, I would call AM870, the Salem Media Group, Radio Free America.
What Dennis is doing, what you are doing, what Mark Levin is doing, what our warrior princess here in Southern California, in Los Angeles, I have you folks on every single day from 6 a.m.
until Mark Levin is gone.
And, you know, just in honor of Vin Scully, I have a little personal radio, an AM radio, that I listen to, you know, Jen and Grant in the morning from 6 to 9, and then when I drive to work, I turn on Dennis and you folks are Serving this country and talk radio will never die.
You are, you know, talking straight to my heart.
The fact is, California, we get more listeners, more callers than any other part of the world from California.
And I think that's in part because we provide you a lifeline to information you need, Paul.
Yes, I agree and I love you all so much and happy birthday to Dennis and you know, just to say shout out to your audience.
As Dennis says, there's three types of people in the world and you're one of them, Sebastian.
There are people who fight, There are people who help the fighters, and there are people who do nothing.
It's time to stand up, America, and listen to these men and women on talk radio.
Talk radio will never die.
Couldn't have been a better call.
God bless you, Paul.
Stay on the line.
I don't know if you've got any of my books.
If you don't, let's give him a choice of which of my books he'd like signed.
More relevant than ever after the Zawahiri News is defeating Jihad, then there's a Why We Fight Defeating America's Enemies With No Apologies, and the most recent is, of course, the War for America's Soul.
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Any details on 2?
I haven't talked to him yet.
Okay.
I can't when we're doing the calls because I don't know when you're gonna drop and go to new people.
That's why I got it.
Right, right, right, right, right.
90. 90.
Oh, I'm going to tee up six here.
No, no, no.
I'll do that with Jen.
I'll use that with Jen.
Do you want to use three here?
I think so.
One minute.
Oh, actually, come in with 10.
That's really good.
Come in with 10.
10, no liner.
Oh, Jeff has to play a disclaimer.
Okay, so we'll wait for the disclaimer guy and then we'll play it.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll wait till you play it.
All right, come on, Max.
All right, come on, come on, Max.
All right, come on, Max.
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I have never in my entire career heard of somebody who thinks it's good public policy to raise taxes here as the nation is entering a recession.
And that's what this bill does.
And Joe Manchin, a moderate?
No.
He's a mini Green New Dealer.
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Let's go to your calls.
Let's go to Tom, Pennsylvania.
Yeah, I'd like to find out why the people that are transporting these illegal aliens on buses and planes all over the country are not also being arrested Because of the human trafficking that's going on.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
You can't arrest somebody because you're the bus driver.
Are you talking about the workers for DHS?
Who are you talking about, Tom?
You know, when these folks wake up in the morning and they find all these illegal aliens walking around and then they say where they come from.
Right.
And they were flown in in the middle of the night.
Well, yeah, but those flights are paid for by you.
Yeah.
Well, the people that are organizing it... Yeah, that's the federal government.
Who's going to arrest the federal government?
You think the Department of Justice is going to arrest the federal government?
Yeah, exactly.
That's where the problem is.
Bingo.
Thank you.
Randy, Knoxville, line one.
Hey, Dr. Gorka, thanks for the War for America's Soul book.
It's really great.
You sent it to me last week.
You know, as a guy, I'm a house painter.
I work outside.
Talk radio will never die, man.
I can't look at a screen.
I go from sunup to sundown.
I got my little earbud.
You guys at Salem are great.
I listen to you all day long.
It's the same.
When I'm walking the dog, when I'm cutting wood outside, gotta have my earbuds in.
You and me, Randy.
Same kind.
Hey, that's cool.
I wanted to ask you, you have a, you know, there's a lot of talk about Nancy Pelosi going into Taiwan.
Yes.
The Chinese guys were raising cane about it, even threatening her.
Yes.
Quick, quick, quick, we got 30 seconds.
Sure thing.
Is there targeting technology not able to pick up the small signature of a witch's broom?
You know, that's a good question.
I know a lot about Chinese military technology, but I haven't checked their capacity to track a witch's broomsticks in flight.
God bless you, Randy.
Enjoy the war for America soon.
We'll be back with our West Coast warrior princess, Jennifer Horn.
We're going to talk about the state of the economy with Steve Moore and then Dr. Ashley Lucas.
Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that dial.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Now it was being deployed against the American people and our president.
This is the biggest political scandal in modern history, which makes Watergate look like a tiff.
The FBI director has no credibility.
The left used to not trust the FBI, and now they love them.
This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn.
Imagine what they do to anybody who has a single strike against them.
35 Russian diplomats in the U.S.
expelled.
The prosecution of General Flynn wasn't a pursuit of criminal activity.
It was a setup.
Flynn actually had details.
So he was talking about going after people's budgets.
They were terrified.
Media didn't start as neutral.
Media hasn't been neutral all its life.
The two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out.
The fact, through WikiLeaks, that she says one thing and...
Oh, no.
They worked hand-in-glove with Comey to try to delegitimize Trump.
They were not there to tell the truth.
A political dirty trick is being carried out by our intelligence community.
Honestly, none of us really know, sort of holistically, what to think about this dossier.
They went into Congress.
They said, there's nothing here.
Doesn't matter.
We'll keep going with FISA.
We'll keep going with the investigation.
And more importantly, we will go on TV, day in and day out, and lie to the American people to their face.
And nothing's going to happen to us.
The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread.
And the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum!
We're beholden to scum!
Russian scum!
We had not one person claim that they had or had seen evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians.
Devin Nunes was the hero in the forest.
He was alone, he was mocked, he was attacked.
Devin Nunes was subject to such scorn for saying the conclusions that we brought forth in that report, which all proved to be true.
Russiagate was a false story.
To target their political opposition.
To carry out their insurance policies.
I believe that this is a conspiracy.
These guys have perpetrated the greatest crime against the American people ever seen.
It was a coup d'etat.
This is how sick and twisted these people are.
I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S.
citizens involved in the Trump transition.
It was shocking to see some of the over-classification that was done to hide either corruption or abuse of authority and just to make sure certain agencies didn't look bad.
We have a peaceful transition of power process.
That's not what happened.
There were more meetings, there were more leaks, there were more attacks.
The thing that they were investigating the Trump campaign for is what they themselves were doing.
Not just the Democratic Party and their operatives, but also the FBI.
I was writing about the time frame that we lived in.
...that we're living in now, I would say it wasn't supposed to happen.
They weren't supposed to know.
The entire time this was going on, they thought this was going to be what sunk the Donald Trump presidency.
and they were just looking for the golden goose and they still haven't found it because it doesn't exist. - That's what I'm trying to fix.
Hello, hello?
You there?
Oh, hey!
There you are.
Alright, so we got no answer when we tried the Skype.
You want to try again?
Yeah.
No one was there.
How was Cabo?
Oh, so great.
I could go back right now and be completely happy.
It's actually cleaner than Los Angeles.
I went right before the COVID shutdown.
It was like a week before.
Did you love it?
Yeah, it was very good.
Where'd you stay?
My wife's cousin had, like, they rented this ridiculous house.
It was like a gaming community.
Yeah, well, which one?
Esperanza.
We stayed in Esperanza.
I think that's where, is that where Jason Giambi had a house?
Oh, I don't know.
It's possible.
The big cliff that overlooks the water?
Yeah!
That's where we were.
We had a chef and it was the most amazing trip I've ever been on.
We had a chef, too!
Yeah, that's where all this was.
It was the best trip I've ever been on.
It was so awesome.
It was like, we had a chef, we had people come in.
Well, just one night.
We only did it one night, the first night.
I cooked most of the other time, but we had a massage and facial.
We had, did you have the beach club that you went to?
Was there like the beach club at the bottom of the hill?
Yes.
Yeah.
That's the same spot.
Oh, we stayed in the same place!
It was awesome.
It's ridiculous.
It's so great.
Yeah.
That was a, I'd love to go back there.
It was really, really fun.
And it was like I slept.
I mean, it was just it was like a whole new world.
Yeah, that was great.
That's the best trip I've ever been on.
It's pretty good.
And I love from L.A.
It's only two hours instead of... Yeah, not for us.
I know.
There's nothing straight through.
For Hawaii, though, it's, you know, it's a five or six hour flight from L.A., even longer for you.
So it's still closer.
But did you go to the office when you were there?
No.
Oh, that's my favorite.
We only went out to lunch once, but the office is like the best.
Audio back up, Jeff.
Or hey, pause that audio.
You got to turn it up.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hello.
How's your mom doing?
Thank you for asking.
She, um, they just switched to medication and she's actually feeling a little better.
So good.
Praise God.
Let's hope that that keeps up.
How are you?
Look at me all messed up with my hair.
I'm good.
Thank you.
I'm good.
I spent four days Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, in a film studio, filming our new TV show.
Okay, so Katie told me about it.
I love it.
I love the concept.
I was a little ragged on Tuesday, but we had fun.
Well, it sounds awesome.
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Did you miss our discussion?
We opened the show today with none other than my rabbi.
Yes, I'm Catholic, but I can say it.
Dennis Prager, a hero to those in radio, who is celebrating his 40th year.
I think he started when he was five.
In radio, he's written a piece on celebrating the lessons learned.
It's on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
Read it.
It's at the great website, American Greatness.
and um we've been talking about Dennis and about radio for the last hour with our great listeners and callers one of whom rang in to tell us he listens every day all day to Salem he listens to Dennis he listens to the great one Mark Levin he listens to me and then he mentioned somebody he didn't use her name But he said, my West Coast warrior princess.
And who did he mean?
The person tittering in the background!
She's Jennifer Horne.
Jennifer, you were just... You're the only person whose appellation was warrior when our callers celebrated Salem just a few minutes ago.
I take my duty, my title very seriously, Seb.
Thank you.
Gotta ask you, Dennis, he kind of ruminated on the issue of the future of radio.
Its death has been predicted for decades and decades and decades.
Gotta ask you, as somebody who does more radio than anybody else, how safe is our medium?
Oh, I don't buy that the end of radio is near at all.
In fact, I think it's just going to take a different shape.
You know, everyone has the cellular phones now.
Everybody walks around with those phones.
Those phones are now people's transistor radios.
Transistor radios that we used to walk around with.
So I don't think radio ever goes away.
Does it change shape?
I think absolutely.
Everything does.
But I don't think that the content goes away.
There are too many people who rely on radio for information and for a community.
And we've talked about this before, Seb.
I think it is the most vulnerable medium because you're in people's cars, you're in people's homes.
Vulnerable in terms of the connection, the intimacy, right?
Absolutely!
The intimacy of the medium and the fact that most great hosts are vulnerable with their audience and they will tell you what they think.
They will tell you what they feel.
They'll say things that maybe sometimes are a little unexpected and surprising and they'll have fun.
And the best radio show hosts are the ones who sound like they love what they're doing.
They're the ones who share their lives with you and certainly I think you do that.
Dennis absolutely does it and I try to do the same thing every single day.
Yeah, most of them are vulnerable.
Some hosts are invulnerable.
In the manly sense of the word, of course.
Let me share a little bit of my life today.
So, as usual, all my stories revolve around the post office, walking the dogs, and 7-Eleven.
I was driving on the way.
No, seriously, it's not a joke.
Ask my guys.
I was driving to the post office, and I'm coming up to a stop sign.
and this I don't know if it's a young mother or probably the au pair or the babysitter pulling a double pram with tiny tiny toddlers in it and she just she didn't even look if there was traffic and just didn't look and pushed the pram out into the theater I even rolled down my window and I said, really?
I mean, guys, please.
I just wanted... That's my share of vulnerability today.
All right, back to... Dem American wants to make sure that prom is a stroller, is that right?
Sorry, stroller.
Pram.
Prambulator.
A prambulator.
A prambulator?
Yes, that's the original.
It gets better.
That's where the pram comes from.
Sorry, a stroller.
I'm still working on my American, you know, citizenship qualifications, but a stroller, a double stroller with toddlers, and she didn't care what traffic was coming.
She's Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer, AM 870, The Answer, AM 590, The Answer.
So much to discuss with you.
Because we had Dennis on, didn't have time.
Gotta talk politics across the nation, not just California.
Let's dial in Eric.
Eric, give us a little update that Jennifer and I can discuss.
What happened in America yesterday?
Plain and simple, it was an absolute clean sweep for MAGA candidates in two major states, Arizona and Michigan.
We had, of course, the U.S.
Senate race in Arizona.
Trump's endorsed candidate Blake Masters and ally Peter Thiel won the nomination there over Mark Brnovich and several others, but all the other statewide offices as well.
State Representative Mark Fincham won the nomination for Secretary of State.
Abraham Hamada, one former Maricopa County prosecutor, won the nomination for Attorney General.
And this was great in Arizona.
The Speaker of the Arizona State House of Representatives, Russell Bowers, a man who opposed election integrity bills, you know, openly, you know, basically said he was fine with voter fraud and even bent the knee to the January 6th committee and testified before them.
He was obliterated in his primary by former State Senator Dave Farnsworth.
He is out.
And that was just, I didn't even see that one coming.
That last one was incredible.
And as well as Michigan, we had one of the 10 pro-impeachment Republicans Representative Peter Major was defeated in his primary by John Gibbs, a former official in the Trump administration's Housing and Urban Development Department.
And also, Trump's endorsed candidate for governor of Michigan, Tudor Dixon, won the nomination to take on Gretchen Whitmer in November.
Yeah, and your face was very, very happy when I came in this morning, Eric.
I realized we'd had a good day.
Jennifer, I know these are primaries, but these are presidentially endorsed MAGA candidates.
How much of a big deal is this, in your opinion?
I think it's a huge deal.
It's not a surprise to me.
I'm sure, Seb, it's not a surprise to you.
And Eric, I would guess we're happy today.
But we've known all along that President Trump is still the leader of the Republican Party.
And by and large, as many swampy Republicans want to come up and try to say that he is he's not the leader.
He is.
His endorsement, it matters.
I think one of the candidates in Arizona said that his endorsement was like rocket fuel when it came in.
So that Trump does, the Trump endorsement does still mean something to people and it carries weight and I think that's what puts him solidly in the position to decide if he is going to run, I think we think he will, in 2024 before everyone else seems to jump into this field.
Let's talk about the other side.
A lovely short little cut here from... I came up with this.
I gave permission for Chris Plant to call him the Penguin.
He is Jerry Nadler.
Jerry Nadler was on a stage with people he is fighting for the nomination, including Carolyn Maloney, and they were asked a very reasonable question.
Here are the answers.
Cut six.
Should President Biden run again in 2024?
Yes.
Mr. Nadler?
Too early to say it doesn't serve the purpose of the Democratic Party to deal with that until after the midterms.
Ms.
Maloney?
I don't believe he's running for re-election.
Ouch.
There's Jerry trying to peek over the podium.
He's trying to get his phone book to jump on top of.
He said, uh, uh, uh, doesn't serve the, uh, uh, uh, the Central Committee, uh, to make that statement.
And then his opponent says, uh, no, he shouldn't run.
Um, sounds like there's a little tension inside the DNC, Jennifer.
Well, absolutely.
There's tension inside the DNC.
I mean, this week alone, we had a couple of representatives from Michigan come out and say they don't want to see Biden run again in 2024.
You have splitting and cracks that have been happening in the Democrat Party for a long time with the more leftist socialist branch and then the shrinking, more moderate side of the Democrat Party.
I don't even like to call them moderates anymore, but but perhaps leftists, I guess, might be might be the way to go.
In any case, there has been a crack in the party for a long time.
And now you have to figure out what happens next.
And strategically, they got themselves into a pretty bad position.
They put in the empty suit, Joe Biden.
He's not performing.
Whoever's pulling his strings, not performing.
And now they have to deal with the fact that Kamala Harris did not win over the American people.
And that's probably the greatest failure of the Democrat Party.
They bet on her to win people over.
She is unlikable.
People in California, her home state, don't even like her.
So what do we do?
What do they do?
How are they going to fix this?
And I think they've got a real problem.
I think the best chance they have is hoping that Biden can hold out till the end of this term.
So that Kamala Harris can run against everybody else.
If she runs as the so-called incumbent, if he can't finish, Democrats are in real trouble.
Yeah.
I want to share something I didn't get to yesterday.
This is a tweet from... Who's it from?
I think it's from Liz Cheney, with an individual that I had respect for as an actor.
The Untouchables is a fabulous movie.
He's Kevin Costner.
Can we pull up that tweet, please, Eric?
Do we have that image?
All right.
So this is the photograph she reposted.
I'm for Liz Cheney.
Kevin Costner, dude, you don't even live in Wyoming.
However, I'm going to tie it into you.
It's fascinating.
Got a report here from Breitbart, Jen.
More than a million dollars of her campaign funds for Liz Cheney have come from California.
Isn't that interesting?
A lot of people with too much money to throw away, apparently, trying to help out Liz Cheney.
It's not surprising.
California, I think, was the state that single-handedly helped fund the Lincoln Project.
These are either Democrats or people like Kevin Costner, who I think used to consider himself to be a Republican.
He did!
who have now just realized that they really don't have the backbone to stand for the republic, of what is good and right in this country at this point.
And so, of course, they're going to throw their money behind these people who have zero chance.
Liz Cheney, another one who I think thinks that if she doesn't win re-election, which I believe she will not, if she doesn't win re-election, then what happens?
She thinks she's going to run for president, that she is somehow going to save the country.
I see it.
I'll have what she's having, please.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, the easiest way for her to commit suicide is for her to jump off her ego onto her IQ.
That's Liz Cheney.
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Play a cut from Bernie Carrick for you, Jen.
I love it.
I also, I don't know if you guys have talked about the guy who shot his would-be robbers?
No, a caller brought it up, but let's talk about that.
Where was that?
In Norco, in Riverside County.
Is he gonna get in trouble with the locals?
No!
Because it was in Riverside.
If it had happened in LA, all bets are off.
But the sheriff already came out and said this guy's a hero.
He was defending his business and himself.
Nice.
Jeff, do you have time to find that video on Twitter?
Which one?
The guy shooting the store owner.
That's on there?
Yeah.
It's great.
He shot my arm off!
And Grant thinks, when you see the video, Seb, tell me if you think, he thinks it's just an air pump gun.
He doesn't even think it was an AR-15, which is what it was described.
I'll send you, here's the guy, here's the guy, just use this, Jeff.
Yeah, I don't think, I'm sorry.
When does somebody use an AR-15 to hold up a convenience store?
I think it was a plastic one as well.
So, because Grant said when he got shot, it looked like it wasn't heavy enough, basically.
You know, it looked like it was just flopping around.
Yeah, bingo.
He shot my arm off!
He shot my arm off!
Oh no!
And the guy that did it, his name is, what is it?
I better look it up.
Craig Cope, something like that.
Anyway, he is... Hang on, I'm sending you the actual footage, Jeff.
I just sent you the actual footage.
Alright.
Do you want me to email it?
No.
Okay.
Alright, let's have a look at him dropping the... Oh, this is even better.
And the guy was such a quick reaction.
Oh my god, and he's 80 years old.
And he said, well, I used to hunt a little bit.
I want him to adopt me.
He's great, that guy.
And they've got a car they've stolen from a dealership because it's got the dealer's plates on it.
I know.
Well, you heard how they got caught, too, right?
No, no, no.
Tell me.
They had to go to the hospital because the guy got shot and the other three dopes sat in the parking lot waiting for their friend at the hospital.
The cops come by and pick them all up.
As Chris Plant says, every day is an IQ test.
Every day that no one passes.
Craig Cope.
Yeah, that's right.
That's his name.
Yep.
And he said, uh, he said, what people don't understand is that Norco is pretty conservative and we only have these problems because people in the state vote the wrong way.
All right.
Um, I'm going to play this cut.
Um, Oh, if Jeff has the cut ready, I'll do that.
Then I'll do the Bernie Kerik cut.
Um, and then we'll discuss.
One minute.
Let's see if it's ready.
Just tell me when it's ready.
I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll wait until it's ready.
We have enough to talk about.
We have plenty.
I feel like there's something new behind you.
What did you add?
Oh, from the filming.
From the filming.
Can you show her?
From the TV show.
The World Trade Center.
Well, the World Trade Center.
Was that always there?
Well, for a few months.
We have the Spear of Destiny.
The Lance of Longinus.
And then we have... Throw me the Idol.
I throw you the whip.
We have the Fertility Idol from Raiders.
Love that.
It's really coming along.
It's good.
Thank you.
News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
America first.
It's only mind-boggling if you're Brian Potato Head Stelty.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump, and it is that time of the week where we check in with our West Coast Warrior Princess, host of The Morning Answer, and the Inland Empire Answer, AM 870 and AM 590, The Answer.
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Jennifer, I've got to talk about this amazing, amazing instance of a... I don't know if it was a real AR-15 that was used, but some cretin walked into a convenience store in, what did you say, Riverside?
Norco, which is in Riverside County.
And the, what, 80, 81-year-old store owner, in something, I mean, I think there were sparks of lightning he was moving so fast, pulls out his 12-gauge, shoots the guy, and then he runs out of the building screaming.
If we get the video, we'll show you.
Just run it as a B-roll, Eric.
What happened to the store owner?
I know it's California.
Is it in trouble?
What's the story?
Well, this was a good one.
So this past Sunday, or it was actually late Saturday night, early Sunday morning, 2.45 in the morning, the store owner, his name is Craig Cope.
He runs like a little market and liquor store in Norco, which is in Riverside County.
And he said that he saw a black BMW pull up and he knew that it was trouble because they didn't pull into a parking spot.
They pulled up right upside the door and they backed in.
And so he was very quick thinking.
Apparently, he had a shotgun nearby.
He pulled it out.
The four men, four of them, on this 80-year-old guy who looks very thin, they walk in.
They scream at him to put his hands up.
He responds with the shotgun and shoots one of the would-be robbers in the arm.
That guy proceeds to cry like a little girl, and they all go running out to the car.
And you can hear the man who got shot saying, he shot my arm off.
Now, he didn't shoot his arm off, but he did get shot.
With a 12-gauge at about 20 feet, which is pretty good.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
And so they get in the car and they forget one of their little friends behind, so they have to pull the car back into the parking lot, pick up the fourth guy, they take off.
Now here's the problem.
This poor guy, he calls the cops.
He actually had a heart attack in recovery, but he's going to be fine.
What?
The shop owner did?
The shop owner, because he was so stressed by the whole situation.
But he's in recovery.
He's doing fine.
He's already talking to the news media.
And what's great is that, what do you do when you're a thief or a would-be thief who's got himself shot?
Well, you've got to go to the hospital.
So all police had to do, pull up to some of the local hospitals.
And these three dopes didn't just drop off their shot friend and left.
Instead, they sat in the parking lot waiting for him.
The cops came with a huge butterfly net, picked him up.
I guess they had stolen property and such in the car.
But this story is unbelievable.
And the shop owner is like the coolest guy on the planet.
He said, you know, I'm here to protect myself.
I used to hunt a little for food when I was younger.
And it came back to me.
And I guess I'm still a pretty good shot.
And then he said, the people of California vote in the wrong way and these problems exist because of it.
And he said, but you don't go to Norco because we're conservatives around here and everybody is armed.
Well, God bless him.
I didn't know he had a heart attack.
As to the three cretins waiting in the car park outside the hospital, as our buddy Chris Plant says, every day it's an IQ test.
Hopefully these people won't walk, but in many other jurisdictions, especially in California, it is a very, very different story.
Bernie Kerrick laid down the law, former commissioner of the NYPD, on Newsmax, on why it's happening.
This is Cut 5.
Play Cut.
I'm sure you read the Soros op-ed.
It was a big deal in the Wall Street Journal.
What was your reaction to it?
It's sickening.
You know, this is a guy that, personally, I think he should be under investigation by the FBI and DOJ, but you're not going to see that under a Biden administration.
He is intentionally doing everything physically in his power to destroy major cities in this country, from New York City You know, he funded the DA in Manhattan.
He's funded prosecutors in Minneapolis, Atlanta, St.
Louis, and a number of San Francisco, LA.
Every one of these cities have the most substantial increases in violent crime shootings and murder in the last 20 to 30 years.
The George Soros op-ed Bernie's talking about said we need black criminals to be let out without bail because that's social justice, Jennifer.
Yeah, I saw that op-ed and it's disgusting.
And the fact that this guy, there's no other way to describe it, but that he is evil.
I've seen the policies in the city that I love, the city that I was born in and raised in, in Los Angeles.
The city gets so bad under his rule.
I was on vacation last week and I was telling Producer Jeff, you know, you go to Mexico and you think, oh, I better be careful.
I felt safer in Cabo San Lucas than I do walking down the streets of my neighborhood in Los Angeles.
And truly, just to go back to this shop owner for a second, had he protected his business in LA County with George Gascon at the helm, he would have probably been charged just like we saw the guy who was protecting his market in New York get charged.
Now, eventually they dropped the charges under pressure, but this is no doubt that they would go after the guy who legally had his gun to protect himself, and they would let those criminals who had an illegal firearm get away with basically attempted murder and attempted robbery.
This is what L.A.
County is doing under George Gascon.
George Soros is responsible for that because he is the money train for people like this, and he's dangerous.
But thank God, when it happens in places like Riverside County, you have good DAs and good sheriffs who say, enough is enough.
This was someone who was doing the right thing and protected himself.
But had this happened in L.A., probably a different story.
Yeah, we know it would.
For the very reason Bernard Kerrick talked about.
He wants to destroy these cities.
Yeah.
Eric, do we have a version of that with the sound?
Can you play that with the sound?
All right.
Tell me when you have, because we've got to hear this little girly boy screaming about his arm being shot off.
Just to add to this story, because there's another thing that's been brewing in Los Angeles.
We actually have a very good sheriff in L.A.
County.
I know you've had him on your show before.
I think when I filled in for you, we've had him on.
Sheriff Villanueva is a Democrat, but he's doing good work in Los Angeles.
They voted with the L.A.
County Board of Supervisors, and this is where the George Soros money comes into play with these, even not just the DAs, but some of these supervisors.
They just voted to put on the ballot that even if Alex Villanueva wins re-election in November, the Board of Supervisors now just put on the ballot that they have the power to fire the sheriff, taking away the vote of the public.
Without a recall, without anything, that they can get rid of him if he gets out of line with, and I'll use air quotes, cause.
So they don't want to see law and order in Los Angeles.
Of course not.
Let's play the video.
Let's hear this little boy with his fake toy gun.
Ugh.
Oh, yeah. yeah.
Oh, yeah.
As we say in the UK, not the sharpest tools in the shed.
God bless that shop owner.
That's the American way.
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What's that?
The guy, the shop owner, he's done interviews.
Oh, yeah!
In fact, if you can get the audio of his interviews, I've got Katie trying to get them on our show, Producer Katie.
Good.
So if I can get them, I'll send it to you.
But in the meantime... If you get him on, send us the video and we'll use it.
I will.
But if you get a chance to see the interview he just did with Channel 2 with CBS, it's great.
He's great.
You just love him.
He's just a good old guy who is protecting himself and doing the right thing.
Great.
Say hi to your mom.
I will.
I will.
And I will talk to you guys later.
All right.
Thanks, Jen.
All right.
Bye.
Thanks, guys.
guys.
All right.
Did you see this story?
Do you remember that meme of the ice cream truck going past Biden?
And then somebody photoshopped in an ice cream truck behind them with the jingle, Reuters fact-checked it to say whether there was an ice cream truck.
Yeah, we're not allowed to have memes anymore, apparently.
Oh, Trump shared that meme of him putting the Medal of Honor on Conan the Dog, and they were like, this is fake, this is not real.
I'm like, of course it's not real.
That's the point.
Wow.
Uh, title for Jen.
Um, hang on a second.
California has a hero.
California has a hero.
All right.
Oh, my gosh.
Thanks.
Alright, I'm sorry, Jeff.
It's one of those days.
I'm gonna send you another one.
No hurry.
When we're done, we can do it in the... Karen Jean-Pierre just said that the Supreme Court decision on Roe v. Wade was unconstitutional.
Alright.
She said they took away constitutional rights.
Same thing.
Yeah.
We have Mr. Moore on the line.
We do.
Steve, welcome.
Hello, Sebastian.
So much to discuss.
I'm in the mountains of West Virginia.
Beautiful, beautiful.
Great picture, good sound.
We'll be back on air in 60 seconds.
Okay.
I'm going to use cut two, Eric.
Yes.
And cut eight.
Two and eight, you'll tee them up?
Yes.
All righty.
Okay.
Give me one second.
Cut back.
Okay.
All right, so you're back at Heritage, right, Steve?
Yeah, I spend one or two days a week there.
I'll mention that and I'll mention the book.
Okay, thanks.
All right,
20 seconds. 20 seconds. 20 seconds. 20 seconds.
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What about the state of America?
What is the state of the economy?
Well, if you can just play word games, everything is dandy.
Cut to this is the White House Press Secretary.
If things are going so great, though, then why is it the White House officials are trying to redefine recession?
No, we're not redefining recession.
If we all understand a recession to be two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth in a row, and then you have White House officials come up here to say, no, no, no, that's not what a recession is.
It's something else.
How is that not redefining recession?
Because that's not the definition.
That is not the definition.
Yeah, just say it again.
That is not the definition.
There is somebody we do trust when it comes to the economy.
He wrote the book Trumponomics, a distinguished fellow at the Conservative Mothership, the Heritage Foundation.
Stephen Moore, tell me, are we or are we not in a recession?
Well, Sebastian, it is absolutely true that the textbook definition is two quarters of negative growth.
Now, we've had, you know, mild contraction in the first quarter and a mild contraction in the second quarter.
And that means that we're in a mild recession.
I'm calling this a cost-of-living recession because the real damage that's been done by the Biden policies has been, by our estimates at Heritage Foundation, about $4,000 of lost income for the average American family.
And if a family is making, say, $75,000 a year, that's a big deal, Sebastian.
When you and I were working for Donald Trump, He increased in four years real family income by $6,000.
That was that was a nice, you know, substantial gain for the middle class.
In just 18 months, Biden has raised almost all of those gains.
And that's the real damage.
And I got to tell you, the worst thing we could do right now, in this current situation, is have this massive $500 billion Well, let's talk about it.
This thing that Manchin has caved on, Steve, is called the Inflation Reduction Act.
Is it going to reduce inflation?
This is a joke.
I mean, you know, they should be sued for false advertising and false labeling.
Nobody, well, I shouldn't say nobody, but no sane person believes that this is going to reduce inflation.
You're going to increase inflation because you're taxing companies, so that's going to reduce when you tax something, Sebastian.
You get less of it, so you're going to get less production out of companies if you tax them more.
And then you're also pushing $500 billion more spending into the economy.
We know that it was the Biden spending binge that caused the inflation in the first place.
I know I've said it many times on your show before, but it bears repeating.
When Donald Trump left office, Sebastian, do you remember what the inflation rate was?
One point something.
1.5.
1.5%.
I mean, how do you take the inflation rate from 1.5% to 9.1% in 18 months?
That's hard to do.
I don't know if we should congratulate Biden, but the point is, what caused all that inflation was these trillions and trillions of dollars of spending and borrowing and printing money, and now they want to add more to it.
In my opinion, that's, you know, dousing gasoline on a forest fire.
Yeah, we're going to talk about what happens if it passes.
I warned everybody, don't trust Mansion.
You're right.
We're talking to Stephen Moore.
Please check out his book Trumponomics.
Follow him on Twitter at StephenPH, Stephen Moore, and also at the Heritage Foundation.
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Yeah.
Mic's are still hot on the video stream.
I'm going to ask you about the labor market.
What happens if this thing passes?
And also, is there anybody in this administration who looks like they know what they're doing?
And I'm going to play a cut, so I'm going to play the Dollar General cut.
Cut eight.
Which one?
It's about Dollar General, how more and more people can't afford to go to proper grocery stores, so they're buying food at Dollar Generals.
Yeah, yeah.
Even the dollar store doesn't cost a dollar anymore.
Right.
So you're getting some time away?
Yeah, I'm just here in Deep Creek.
Have you ever been up here?
Deep Creek?
I don't think so.
It's where Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Maryland all meet.
Oh, right, right, right.
And the interesting thing about this is it's... Well, yeah, it's really nice, and it's in Maryland, and this county here, it's all, you know, it's very, very, very conservative.
And so this county in Maryland, because you feel like you're in West Virginia.
It's very in the tip of Maryland.
They want to secede from Maryland and join West Virginia.
No way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And when, when did that start?
Was that recent?
About three or four years ago.
And it's a real movement.
I'm going to write a book on this about there's all these counties around the United States that are contiguous with another state.
So there's like two areas in Colorado.
Two counties in northern Colorado that want to join Wyoming.
There's the eastern Oregon wants to join Idaho.
And you know, this is because these states are run like Oregon is actually get out of Portland, Oregon.
It's not crazy.
It's just Portland.
And same thing like, you know, Washington.
You get out of Seattle, the rest of the state's pretty normal.
So, but they're completely under the political control.
So, you know, here in, you feel like you're in West Virginia, and they're under the control of Baltimore.
And Baltimore's 300 miles away.
Right, right.
All right, so I'll tee up that cut, then we'll go back to Steven.
Yeah.
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Uh, not to my knowledge.
Okay.
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It's called Trumponomics, Stephen Moore, distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
Stephen, I want to play a little cut to you about, well, just kind of a reality check of what happens in America when inflation is out of control and the White House doesn't know what it's doing.
Cut it.
As gas prices strain budgets and groceries are 12% more expensive than last year, consumers are turning to dollar stores.
What I'm seeing is that families are going to dollar stores to buy their groceries and then being more cost conscious in general.
Phoenix Kamlo and his family of five have been relying on Family Dollar for more and more of their groceries.
It's convenient.
It's a lot cheaper than going to a regular grocery store.
Not all the food there is great, but it's definitely better than not having anything.
So I'm not really interested, Stephen, in what the White House says about what the latest perverted definition of recession is.
There's your metric.
People can't go to the normal grocery store.
They have to go to Dollar General to feed their kids.
I couldn't agree more.
You know, we have this debate about what's the definition of inflation.
And, you know, I say one thing and the Biden economists say another.
But, you know, ask the American people.
When you have 82% of Americans today, Sebastian, who say that the economy is headed in the wrong direction, those are worse numbers than under Jimmy Carter.
So Americans know that this is a recession.
And that clip that you just showed is very consistent with what studies are showing, that a lot of American families that are lower middle income and even middle income families are having to cut back not on discretionary spending, but on their necessities.
They're buying less groceries.
They're buying less gasoline.
They just don't have the money to cover these costs.
By the way, the dollar store doesn't cost a dollar anymore.
Now it's at the $1.25 store because the inflation's hit those stores too. - Yeah.
So here's, look, you're the expert.
I'm the national security guy.
You're the economics guy.
Here's my layman's prediction.
And I want you to kind of disprove me or just tell me I'm wrong.
When I see a certain trend line, with regards to anything, if I want to break out of that trend line, there has to be something that counters it.
And I look at the state of the economy, how we have been brought to this space, this place in a year and a half or less.
How does it get fixed?
Well, it only gets fixed if there are people who see the problem and have the skill sets to fix it.
You can't fix a car if you don't know how to fix a car.
My issue is, Stephen, tell me if I'm wrong, I don't see anybody in this White House, amongst these cabinet secretaries, amongst the Biden team, who knows what they are doing when it comes to the economy.
Therefore, my sad prediction is it will get worse before it gets better.
Well, you've nailed it, my friend.
I mean, my little group, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, did that study that got so much attention.
You mentioned it a few weeks ago that showed that the majority of the people in the Biden administration who work on the economy and commerce and transportation and energy issues, the majority of them have zero business experience.
And I'm not saying they don't have experience running a company, Sebastian.
I'm saying they don't even have experience working for a company.
They've never earned a You know, an honest paycheck.
They either work for government or universities or they're community activists or they're lifetime politicians.
And so, you're right.
There's no talent over there in this White House that can fix the problem.
I mean, do you think that somebody like the Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is going to solve the It's not just a problem of their lack of credentials.
I mean, he doesn't know anything.
He seems like a nice fellow, but he doesn't know anything about it.
Or do you think Jennifer Granholm is gonna solve the energy crisis?
She has zero knowledge of the energy industry.
I mean, I could go on and on, but look, it's not just a problem of their lack of credentials.
It's these people, tell me if you think I'm wrong, They're just hardcore left-wing big government socialists.
If they're not like Biden, they simply acquiesce to the hardcore left-wing socialists.
So what does that mean?
You've been in this swamp long enough, Stephen.
After the midterms, given what happened in the primaries yesterday, it seems as if there will be at least a 50-seat majority for the Republicans.
We won't have the executive until President Trump runs and wins, which is, God willing, what I predict.
What happens after the midterms?
Can anything be done?
Will this GOP reign in the crazies?
Because they have the power of the purse in the House, Stephen.
I wish I could say yes to that.
You know, Republicans voted for some of these spending bills, Sebastian.
They voted for this crazy corporate welfare bill.
Many of them voted for the Green New Deal bill, which they called an infrastructure bill.
So I hope so.
I mean, I hope Republicans will turn the tide.
But, I mean, my God.
I want to go back to that bill, that bill that's before Congress right now.
I mean, this is the height of absurdity to be voting for another massive... Do you know that Biden has already spent three and a half trillion dollars, and now he wants another trillion?
He's only been in office 18 months.
This is going to bankrupt our country.
This is not a fire alarm.
I mean, this is not a fire drill.
This is a five alarm fire.
We have to stop these people, Sebastian, any way we can.
All right, guys.
Call your representative.
I say this many times in a week, in a month, but it makes a difference.
Put pressure on your representative, on your congressman, on your senator.
Please, don't just sit at home and complain.
If they feel that they're getting the heat, it does make a difference.
Thank you, Stephen, for banging the drum.
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too if you want the the uh supreme court constitutional oh good all right so i'll call that cut 11 all right um oh well i called it cut 13 okay cut 30 what what is nine what is cut nine even is he trying to be funny there no i think he's an idiot i think he's serious yeah you think he's serious he's not a funny guy do you remember when he ran he sounded like he sounded like sylvester stallone on show He looks and sounds like the biggest stoner in the world.
But he's from Colorado, so... I don't know why you would make a joke about that, because that's like the thing they're trying to... Yeah, I know!
Alright, I might use that as well.
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Let's start with crazy.
This is Claire McCaskill.
You remember her?
This is her response to the decision from the Supreme Court.
They really are loonies.
Cutthroat.
Most Missourians, most Kansans, most Americans want rape victims to be able to terminate a pregnancy.
They don't want dog-sniffing women at airports to see if they're traveling to have an abortion.
Most people don't want dog-sniffing women at airports to stop people having abortions.
Jeff, I need a sanity check.
Which human being, let alone Republican, recommended we need dog-sniffers at airports to make sure you're not traveling for an abortion?
I missed that story.
Not only that, how do you do it?
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This is what she just said is from the podium of the White House about the same Supreme Court decision.
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From day one, when the Supreme Court made this extreme decision to take away a constitutional right, it was an unconstitutional action by them, a right that was around for almost 50 years, a right that women had to make a decision on their bodies and how they want to start their families.
Okay, so the Supreme Court of the United States that decides whether something is in accordance with the Constitution, their decision is unconstitutional.
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My wife has lost over 25.
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Dr. Lucas, welcome to America First!
Thank you.
Thanks, Dr. Gorka, for having me.
All right.
So this isn't an extended promo.
This is about you.
This is about your life story and just trying to talk some sense into this whole concept of, you know, being the right weight and how so many systems are stupid, starvation systems or calorie counting and all that guff.
So, I found your story originally, when we chatted, fascinating.
So, tell us how you got into the industry and originally your struggle with the whole question of healthy weight and the right weight.
Yeah, so I spent my first 25 years training as a classical ballet dancer and I was chronically met with injury.
I had stress fractures in my back and my feet.
I was always under eating and over exercising to achieve this aesthetic that is demanded by ballet.
Right, so you've got to be, you know, as light as a butterfly, but then able to dance around for hours on stage.
This is the dichotomy.
That's right.
It's so tough.
And I had a pretty successful career because I just constantly fought through it and danced through one injury after another.
And the accumulation of my career, I found myself performing up in New York City, which is every dancer's dream.
But instead of finding myself up there in the spotlight, I found myself in the ER.
I thought I was having a heart attack.
I didn't know what was going on.
But after a whole bunch of different tests, the physician said that I was simply underfed and over-exercised and I just couldn't do it anymore.
So then what happens?
What was your big life decision?
Tell us about the journey from there to where you are today.
Well, I was devastated.
Like any professional athlete, it was my identity.
Didn't have any idea what I wanted to do, but I knew the significant impact nutrition, or really lack thereof, had on my own sport performance.
So I went on and I studied exactly that.
I earned my PhD in sports nutrition and chronic disease, and studied what happens to our metabolism when we chronically undereat, when we diet all the time.
We know that it shuts down the metabolism.
That's why most of us when we drop weight, we regain it.
So I wanted to learn how do we drop this excess fat weight and maintain it and support a healthy metabolism.
And then we also understand that 80% of any kind of big change, which weight loss constitutes, comes from the mind.
And so I studied the behavioral aspect associated with making big changes in our lives and together created what is now the PhD Weight Loss Approach.
Right, so for me, and I'm just talking about it as the end user, but the thing that struck me at the beginning Is that and this isn't to lessen your success because I'm not joking I've taken 20 years to try and lose this weight and with your program I have and so has my wife and all the people who are coming to me saying how did you do it can you help us and of course I'm connecting them straight to you so Jamie get busy all right?
The system just seems to be so obvious.
Instead of locking yourself into a system that you can't maintain properly after you've lost the weight, which of course results in the spring back of all those pounds, as you explained it to me, as Rachel, as your team explained it to me, it's very simple.
It's about chemistry.
If you have weight you want to burn, You need to burn it.
And if you're eating stuff that your body will burn instead of burning the fat, you're never going to burn the fat.
So this is why cutting sugars, minimizing carbs in the beginning is how you, in my words, you reset the body chemistry.
It worked for me.
Tell me what I'm getting wrong, what I'm oversimplifying, but explain how the PhD system gets these incredible results.
It really is, Dr. Gorka, that simple.
We have to teach the body how to burn fat for fuel.
And nearly every cell in the body prefers to work this way metabolically, but we don't let it by the way that we've been told to eat.
And so what we need to do is find that unique place, that unique carbohydrate tolerance level where we can get the body into burning fat.
For the majority of us, I want you to think that this excess fat weight is locked away in a freezer store that you can't access.
So you're hungry all the time, you've got cravings, it doesn't feel good, there's inflammation as a result, and that can come out like knee pain, joint pain, poor sleep, poor mood.
But when we can unlock these freezer stores, when we can teach the body how to burn fat for fuel, then this is when you can see this much more effortless, painless type of weight loss and by finding your unique carbohydrate tolerance level it doesn't mean that you've got to be keto or very low carb or follow the atkins diet but it's going to be unique to you and that's what we do is
we create this customized meal plan to get each person in their unique state of fat burn explain that's a very fashionable word ketosis explain what that means and how it fits into what you've developed sure so ketosis is a metabolic state when your body is burning ketones for fuel and And that usually is required of the body to have us drop carbohydrates significantly.
Let's say less than 20 grams of carbohydrates a day.
So that's maybe just some green leafy vegetables in the diet and no other vegetables or fruits, for example.
It's not a bad place to be.
Many people really thrive in this area.
It's OK, but it is a little bit difficult, a bit more restrictive, and I want to make sure that we're creating something that is as least restrictive as possible and sustainable.
And so that's why we work with each individual uniquely to see what they tolerate and what we might need to look at during the weight loss phase.
And how did you, let's go back to the beginning, so you left ballet, you realized this was a challenge, you got all the qualifications, got your doctorate, got your registered dieticians qualifications.
How did you arrive at this system?
How did you build it?
Can you walk us through that?
Sure.
I mean, I understood in my research how we need to treat the metabolism during my doctoral work.
So I understood that the body's much more complicated than calories in and calories out, and that is not the answer to sustainably dropping weight.
And then when I was getting my registered dietician license and completing the internship, I learned all the same material.
They were telling us that we needed to instruct people to eat less and move more and eat everything in moderation.
And I just knew that I did that when I was dancing and it didn't allow for success.
So I flipped all of that upside down.
I did my own research.
and started to implement it first in my own life.
My husband dropped 40 pounds, were avid cyclists, really healthy people, but we were still struggling with excess weight.
I then started to work a lot with athletes, optimizing their body composition, enhancing performance.
And what I found had this significant impact on athletes, had a more profound impact on those of us struggling with excess weight, And right now, you know, 72% plus of Americans are struggling with being overweight and obese.
And that just allowed me to serve more people.
And we do what we say we do.
We add massive value into the lives of folks.
And it just caught fire.
And Now we've impacted thousands of people and are continuing to do so at a really speedy rate.
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Dr. Lucas, let's start with some of the The mistakes or the misunderstandings of what it means to eat healthily.
First things first, I want to put this up there because I just want to brag a bit.
This is the photograph of me in an XL t-shirt I posted on Instagram and Facebook which absolutely bloody exploded because I've been an XXL for 20-30 years.
I felt amazing.
Then I think I have the one of me This is a vest I had made, tailor-made for me as part of a three-piece suit three years ago.
It looks like a circus tent on me now.
I just picked it up from the tailors after having it taken in.
That's what losing 34 pounds looks like.
Thanks to you.
Thanks to PHD Nutrition and Weight Loss.
Let's just educate people.
Let's just get the confusion out of the way.
What are the greatest misconceptions that you identified when it comes to losing weight and keeping weight off?
And talk to us about starvation diets and calorie counting and things like that.
Yeah, you know, when you go to your doctor and you've got some weight to drop, they're likely going to tell you that you just need to exercise more and eat less.
But when you really dive into the literature behind that, we understand it's not as simple as that.
The body's much more complicated than just that simple equation.
Let me interrupt you here.
Eric, put that photograph of the vest up.
Let me just be explicit.
I did that with no extra exercise.
I mean none, okay?
I walk the dogs every day.
I swim now and again.
But that loss, 34 pounds, wasn't because I started running marathons every week.
It's because of her system.
Sorry, I just wanted people to understand.
I didn't become a triathlete to lose the weight.
I just went on your system.
So please, carry on doctor.
Yeah, I mean to burn 10 pounds of fat, you would have to cycle 1000 miles or ride your bike 1000 miles.
And we just know that from an exercise component, it's helpful walking your dog like you do is important.
It's good for your heart health and stress and mood and sleep.
But the body just when you exercise above a certain amount, it almost holds on to the fat a little bit more.
I have clients all the time coming in to see us saying that they're doing all of this different type of boot camp activity and they're still not dropping the weight.
They're actually increasing in the amount of fat that they're carrying.
So I don't want to say that exercise is not good, but there's just a certain amount that's not going to benefit.
And actually, genetics have a lot to do with it.
If you're going to respond to exercise with dropping weight, that's largely a genetic predisposition.
And a lot of people can increase exercise and not see the weight loss.
So moving is great, but it's not going to allow for you to see the big drops of 30, 50, 100 plus pounds.
Um, Calorie restriction, when you really dive into the research behind it, we see increased anxiety and depression, more hunger, and it's just truly unsustainable.
So if you've dropped weight in the past through restricting calories, just MyFitnessPal, counting things, we're just more complicated than that.
And everybody is unique, needs to understand that it's the way that we're eating, it's the way that we're thinking, that truly allows for sustainable weight loss.
Explain also the thing that surprised me, that the eating five times a day.
In the past, I can fast relatively easily.
I can eat nothing for a whole day or not eat anything till three o'clock.
But you have this system and your colleague Rachel, who's been our guide through all this, talks about stoking a fire, keeping a fire lit.
So talk to us about the meals and the snacks and why that's important, Doctor.
Yeah, so at the beginning, when we're dropping weight, we need to regulate our metabolism and our blood sugar.
Most clients, when they come in, their blood sugar is all over the place.
There's highs and lows, and that's, again, when you get the craving mid-afternoon for a candy bar or you need a latte, some kind of coffee to keep your energy up.
That's a blood sugar slump.
And so what we need to do is we do need to rev the metabolism and give it these meals and snacks throughout the day.
And then once you become fat adapted, the cool thing is, is that you don't have to eat all the time.
You can actually go longer periods of time and not be hungry.
Probably, Dr. Gorka, have you noticed that your hunger, that your cravings feel different or have subsided?
Yeah, it's crazy.
I used to eat and get really snack hungry late at night, in the middle of the night, before bed, all gone.
And I have to say, guys, if you do this thing, the sea salt caramel snack bars, the little thing I have in the afternoon, superb.
It's not like eating sawdust like some of these programs.
This stuff is actually good!
It's tasty!
Yeah, I know you texted me and I had to send you it.
Yes, I said, I'm out of the bars, I can't find them, I need them now!
And she got them to me.
I did.
Alright, I have so many more questions to ask with regards to not just the intake, so you're talking about the mechanics of it, resetting the body chemistry, keeping the fire stoked to burn the fat, and then we'll talk about how we get to the maintenance phase, but There's also the psychological aspect.
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This is the mental part of it.
You have some fascinating audio devices, tracks, that help us think attitudes or reactions to foods which really are problematic.
So you came to learn that this isn't just about body chemistry, it's about attitudes and behavior.
Explain the behavioral science part of your program.
Yeah, so I mentioned earlier that 80% of any kind of significant change comes from the And the problem with a lot of programs is they just tackle the food and they tackle the food in the antiquated methods we've discussed.
So what we need to do is not only get the body metabolically functioning the way that it's supposed to naturally, but we also need to tackle the mind and the neural pathways and the old habits and behaviors that we've ingrained within ourselves.
We've got to really look at establishing a new identity.
And I know that this might sound a little bit out there, but we really do have to look at what we are working toward and establish those new habits and behaviors.
And so what you mentioned, Dr. Gorka, are these behavior modification audio sessions that we utilize.
And our clients will sit and listen to these.
They're about 20 minutes long and they really work through retraining the neural pathways in the brain and you'll find that as you listen to them, you actually start to think and feel differently about your body, about your health.
About your mood and how you're eating.
I don't know.
Have you seen impact in using those, Dr. Gorka?
Yeah, I think one of the most useful ones, one of the early ones was, you know, if there's a food that you're susceptible to, whatever it is, you know, chips or ice cream.
I haven't had ice cream in months, which is weird because I don't really miss it.
It's not like, oh, I miss it it's just no think about these foods in black and white it's you think of it first thing that's weird how can I kind of program myself but it works these these simple devices that no I don't need a chocolate bar at 2 a.m.
when I woke up Think of it as black and white.
I think these things are very powerful.
Will you talk to us about some of your biggest successes?
Talk to us about some of the people who've tried for years and haven't managed and come on or people who've lost a lot of weight.
Tell us some stories.
Sure, I mean I was just with a client yesterday and she struggles with hypothyroid.
So she was just restricting her intake so much because she thought that that was the answer.
Struggling with about 45 pounds of excess fat weight and has got bloating issues, inflammatory issues since college and she's now 52 years old.
A great successful interior designer.
And she started with us eight pounds down in the first week.
Six pounds later, huge achievements.
Today, she's right where she needs to be.
Our maintenance program, which we haven't discussed, but maintenance with us is free.
It never ends.
We never abandon our clients.
That's when the work is to be done.
Let's talk about this for a second.
So depending on who it is, as you said, everybody gets a tailored plan.
It's really good to do it with your spouse.
That really, that's why it worked for me.
So you go through this together.
You speak with your counselor every week on a video.
God bless you, Rachel.
Thank you.
And then once you've hit that target, I'm like nine pounds away from my target, eight pounds away.
Once you've hit the target, you flip into the maintenance phase and you don't abandon us.
Right, Dr. Lucas?
That's right, and you can't abandon us either.
We're together in this as a family.
So talk to us about the maintenance phase.
Sure, you know, I don't love the phrase maintenance.
Whenever we're in a mindset of maintenance, it ends up going into destruction.
Like if it's your business, for example, and you want to maintain your business, you know you're not going to anticipate huge growth.
So I'd rather call this phase the creation phase, but we all know what maintenance means.
But in maintenance, we're doing the work.
We're keeping our foot on the gas pedal.
We're establishing new goals and pulling new levers and up-leveling ourselves together.
And so if you do put on a few pounds, it's okay, but we can error-correct together and get you back where you need to be so that you never regain this weight, never accumulate this belly fat again, which we know is this active fat mass, these The fat cells in the belly secrete all these hormones and just want to get you fatter.
So it's really important that once we drop the weight, we keep you there.
And that just requires a family and a support system.
And that's what we provide in maintenance.
And it's free.
Are you telling me that in the near future, if I do my work, Dr. Lucas, I will be able to eat spaghetti carbonara?
You'll be able to eat that, but not all the time.
No, no, that's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
But you know, I used to love pasta.
I even hope nobody's listening.
I used to like ramen noodles and spaghetti carbonara is rather good, especially when it is made by my wife.
So this isn't, this isn't Purgatory for the rest of your life, guys.
It's a system that works and just gets you to where you need to be and that puts you in that place where you are healthy again.
Please, guys, do it.
You won't regret it.
It's worked wonders for me.
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Let's show them what this program does.
First, the t-shirt post on Instagram that lit the internet on fire.
First time in decades that I've managed to go down a size to just plain... Look, I'm six foot three.
Okay, I'm 229 pounds right now, but I'm now only an XL.
Not a double XL.
And then show them, Eric, the vest.
Yes, the vest that was tailor-made for me.
Looks like it was made to fit the fattest man in the world.
Now it no longer fits me.
That's because of the PHD system.
It's amazing.
And if you just saw, if you're watching us, the Relief Factor ads, those were filmed like a year ago.
And you can see the difference between being 268 pounds and being 229 pounds.
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Who is the person who made it possible?
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Let's pull up a bit.
Let's get kind of holistic.
5,000, 10,000 feet.
This isn't just about losing weight, correct?
I mean, I'm doing stuff.
I'm hiking.
I'm doing stuff that I haven't done in ages, you know, to the extent, to the level of stress that was, you know, tough in the past.
This has all kinds of concomitant advantages after you lose the weight, but it also, we should look at it as not just standing on a scale every few days, but this is about improving your health in general, no?
Oh my gosh, it's going to improve every single aspect of your life from your relationships to your career, not just your health.
And I know it's easy for me to say that, but I I hear it from our clients every single day.
How they have the confidence to meet with new people to go out and and date to just really get deeper in their relationship with their spouse.
It really does impact our mood.
And just how we look at life in general.
So definitely will improve your lipid profile and probably reverse type 2 diabetes, which we do all the time for the majority of our clients who come in with type 2 diabetes, but also impact all of those other aspects of your life.
And what is the success rate of the program?
Yeah, so we looked at our success rate about a year and a half ago and we found that 95% of our clients achieve their optimal weight.
Of those who participate in maintenance, 85% maintain within 3 pounds.
And what is the key, do you think, to that success?
I know you could talk for that about hours.
Is it the fact that you have the coach that you talk to every week?
Is it the system?
Because you send us all the food except for dinner, and then you send us the guidelines.
My wife Katie is an amazing cook, so we know the guidelines of what we can cook, what we can't cook in terms of ingredients.
What makes it so different from the other systems, in your opinion?
Oh my gosh, just all of it.
All of the tools compiled into one massive, successful program.
But I mean, it is the support.
It's the accountability, the one-on-one real people, real live coaches who I train all of them and oversee everyone's program.
Really, if there's anything that the coaches can't tackle, which is very rare, I am here.
And so every day I'm talking to clients and serving them.
And then it's just that we are obsessed about what we do and we only do this one thing.
We don't do anything else, but gosh darn it, we are experts in the field of weight management.
And as a result, can reverse all of these chronic health conditions and just get people to experience the life that they really desire and that they deserve to have.
The book just came out two days ago.
It's called Reset the Scale.
All the information is at myphdweightloss.com.
You mentioned the status of the nation.
Talk to us about how big a problem in general.
Everybody talks about coronary heart disease, cancer, and everything else, but if we got a grip On obesity or just being overweight in America as a nation, that would see a huge change in general to just the standards of health.
Massive.
Huge.
Like I said earlier, 72% of us are struggling with obesity and one in two of us are pre-diabetic.
88% of us are metabolically unwell, and what I mean by that is high blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, gout, all of these inflammatory conditions.
Only 12% of us are truly metabolically well.
That's just such a huge deal.
Massive impact.
And losing the weight in so many instances, it helps with those conditions or pre-existing conditions without the need for You know, surgical intervention or medications, because if you take the weight off, especially if you look at insulin and you look at diabetes, you're already, you know, the body's in a better place to deal with all of these things, and you may have healed yourself in some cases.
Oh, most cases.
Last week I was chatting with a client who came in with massive type 2 diabetes, many units of insulin before each meal, and within four days had to drop the fast-acting insulin.
within two weeks no insulin at all and thought that this was this chronic progressive disease and so again for the majority of cases of type 2 diabetes we can put it into remission it's just amazing and how quickly the body wants to get back to to working the way it's supposed to is there any difference have you seen in general terms between how women do on the program and men and
Any specifics in terms of different results or problems they face?
Yeah, so both do really well.
Men, oh gosh, I'm not going to say that you have it easy, but you do drop way a little bit quicker.
And so we really do love working with our guys just because you're dropping three to five pounds a week on average.
And if you follow it precisely, if you bring your A game, it is a wild transformation.
Let me be clear.
She's not making stuff up.
This isn't the pitch from the person.
I'll tell you, when I stuck with the program, when I didn't have guests visiting or traveling, and, you know, the stuff is, you know, not easy when you're traveling or you're going out to entertain guests at a restaurant.
So when I was really following it by the book, It literally was two to three pounds off every week.
It's incredible.
It's truly stunning.
All right.
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All right, last couple of questions for you, Dr. Lucas.
You're talking out to three million people across the country, literally from Los Angeles to New York.
What is your message to those, and I know there are a lot out there who say, Not worth it.
Can't do it.
I've tried it.
Don't have the willpower.
I'm stuck with this extra 20, 50, whatever it is, pounds.
What do you say to those people after your experience serving thousands of clients?
I say that you're not stuck unless you want to be.
You can make this change.
There is hope.
You've just got to come in with a radically open mindset and know, have the faith, confidence and belief in yourself that we can help you get there.
And if you do that, and like I said, you bring your A game and you don't want to be stuck, we can help you experience a major transformation that is totally sustainable.
So nobody is condemned to be overweight for the rest of their lives?
No, only if they want to be.
Right.
What's the most somebody's lost on the program?
200 pounds.
Wow, absolutely stunning.
Alright guys, let's put the photographs up there.
That is your empirical data.
Dr. G in his XL t-shirt, not his double XL t-shirt.
That was me after maybe six weeks on the program.
Then me in my tailor-made vest from my three-piece suit that I had to get taken in because it fitted a walrus originally.
And then the book is Reset the Scale, just published right now.
It's a quick read.
It's got my endorsement on it.
Why?
Because it's real and it works.
I am indebted to you.
I'm very, very grateful for what you've done for me, for my wife and all the friends and relatives that I've connected to you.
So God bless you, Dr. Ashley Lucas.
Thank you.
Anything else we need to tell them?
I'm going to mention the website once more and the phone number.
Is that it?
That's it, but that it can feel good and that if you are just hungry and you've got cravings all the time and you feel chained to food, that there is a way to be liberated.
For a lot of people, this is an addiction recovery process and we understand that and it's okay.