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Aug. 1, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Jim Hanson LIVE: World War III again?

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	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Amen.
	Hey, it is always a pleasure to sit in for Dr. G, especially on a day like today when he has taken it upon himself to serve as a personal bodyguard for Nancy Pelosi on her infiltration of Taiwan.
	That's the kind of guy Seb is.
	He doesn't agree with Pelosi, but he's willing to put his body on the line to make sure the Chi-Coms can't take her down.
	No.
	But that's kind of the theme of the show today, because the Biden and Democrat left are such a flaming mess that we're literally looking at our second potential iteration of World War Three Yes, Putin's evil.
	Yes, Putin's wrong.
	They not only managed to attack Putin in the Ukraine away, that in a situation where, yes, Putin's evil.
	Yes, Putin's wrong.
	Yes, the world should want him to stop.
	But should the U.S.
	push the rest of the West in a way that leads us to the brink of World War III over a couple of border provinces that are mostly Russian-speaking and Putin's gonna keep anyhow?
	I don't think so.
	I think that was horrible, badly managed, badly thought out, and like everything Biden's done in foreign policy, a mistake.
	Now, Not that I am always correct and I'm not even a hundred percent correct in this clip, but back in February while we were down at CPAC, Seb and I sat down to talk about this and I laid out what's going to be the end game of this almost six months ago.
	Kick clip number two and let's hear this.
	Let me give you what I think the endgame is.
	We saw Putin take advantage of the perfect opportunity, which he cleared with Xi when they met in the Olympics.
	Yeah, just before the Olympics.
	Really weird.
	And then they waited until after China's big game.
	Weird again.
	Shocking.
	Here's what I think Putin's game is.
	He wants recognition of Crimea, he wants them off their port in Sebastopol, and he wants the two Russian provinces.
	But he knew if he just took those, he was going to get sanctions anyway.
	So take more now, hit the capital, hit a bunch of stuff, break it, show you can take Ukraine, even though he doesn't want to keep it because he doesn't want an insurgency, and then you've got a bargaining chip to get rid of.
	I'm for the 80% so I get the 60.
	Bingo!
	And they're going to give him the two Russian provinces, he's going to get recognition for Crimea, and everybody else is going to be the loser.
	Now, you know, I could have cut that short from the beginning, where I just said, take Donbass, take Crimea, and get them off the Sebastopol port.
	But I wanted to go ahead and show that I wasn't 100% right, because Russia actually screwed the pooch immensely by overestimating what they thought, and a lot of other people, myself included, thought was going to be a cakewalk taking over Ukraine.
	You know, everybody assumed that they'd just roll tanks in there, you know, and maybe there'd be street fighting in Kiev and some other things.
	As it turned out, the mighty Russian bear was more of a cub, and we saw to the world's advantage that they were not Going to take over all of Europe.
	This was not the first round of Putin potentially reconstituting the Soviet Union, rolling tanks through all their former provinces and parts of the Soviet Union and taking them back.
	Now he's proven he can barely keep a claw hold on the two provinces that he borders in Ukraine.
	Literally, it's a 10-minute drive from Russia to the cities they're fighting in now, and he's barely holding those.
	But he's gonna hold those.
	So now we're in a situation where, what are the Biden crew doing?
	They're saying, no, we have to keep going, we have to fight to the last Ukrainian, fight to the last US Javelin or Stinger, whatever else we're gonna give them, instead of accepting the obvious point, which is that Russia's gonna keep those two provinces and the Crescent down to Crimea.
	We could have done this six months ago, but Biden's team's incompetent.
	And that's what we're looking at.
	They made Afghanistan, which was a loss for us and a sad loss, they turned that from a loss which we'd have had to chalk up into a complete debacle that embarrassed the United States and showed the world that we're not all we're cracked up to be.
	Well, great!
	Thanks, guys!
	You know, we couldn't even lose gracefully.
	So I don't trust these people at all.
	And now we've got a situation where we've got Nancy Pelosi heading to Taiwan.
	And just to be clear, Seb's not on her plane.
	Why is she going?
	Can anyone articulate a single reason why the House Harridan needs to go to Taiwan, especially now?
	First of all, she's a member of Congress.
	She may be the leader of the House, and trade and other issues are a concern of the House, but she does not do foreign policy.
	And it sure looked like to me and everybody else that this was not coordinated with the Biden White House.
	They really didn't know what was going on or why.
	So why do we have this haggard old inside trading drunk woman heading to Taiwan and potentially causing World War III again?
	When it's not even a foreign policy initiative of the Biden administration who's responsible for that.
	It's incompetence.
	It's a lack of coordination.
	And it's showing the world that we don't know what the hell we're doing.
	And we don't need that right now.
	So I don't know if they thought they need some kind of foreign policy win, since they don't have any.
	This sure isn't it.
	Because it sounds like she's going.
	From all we hear, she's going to be there tomorrow night.
	But we've got the Chinese literally threatening to shoot down U.S.
	planes if they accompany her into Taiwanese airspace.
	Do we need that?
	What are we gaining from that?
	And here's the thing.
	I'm not against a show of force.
	I'm a huge fan of shows of force by people who can credibly back those threats up.
	Does anybody think the Biden mob can do that?
	Does anybody think that if they make a threat of any kind that all it is is a likelihood to crash and burn and cause more trouble?
	I surely don't.
	I wish that, you know, if we had a president, Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, even one of the Bushes, Sending an aircraft carrier through the Straits of Formosa, whatever you want to do to go ahead and show the flag, that's a legitimate thing to do.
	And we should remind the CHICOMs that there is a price to be paid, that we have obligations, not treaty obligations, but we've made promises to Taiwan, and we sure have an interest in all of their semiconductor industries that are vital to keeping our high-tech Pumping along.
	So all of those things in play.
	And instead of doing anything vaguely coordinated, smart, or useful, we've got the Biden mob and Pelosi and the rest of them looking like the Keystone Cops, showing the world that America doesn't have a clue.
	And now we're stuck with it.
	We gotta back her play.
	I mean, I don't like Nancy Pelosi, but she's an American.
	She's the Speaker of the House of Representatives.
	And if they try anything with her, of course we have to play payback as a medevac.
	This time, a legitimate medevac.
	Should we be doing that?
	I don't think so.
	Not with these people.
	Like I said, if you had competent leadership and this was a planned way to go ahead and show the Chinese government that we are not going to let them do anything as far as taking down Taiwan, that's one thing.
	It sure doesn't look like that.
	And now they're making us look like morons.
	again and i don't i don't know how we recover from this you know even i worst case scenario what are we actually gonna do if they scramble fighters so now what we got top gun three you know where we got i don't know where's tom cruise maybe tom cruise is on the plane and i just don't know i'd feel better if tom cruise was out there but he's not and that's no lick on our guys i'm I know our fighter pilots could take down the Chinese.
	But what we've got here is another manufactured debacle by the Biden and Democrat ruling parties.
	And I'm sorry, I don't want this country to be put in a position Where we somehow have to go ahead and consider a shooting war with the Chinese because the House of Representatives and the White House can't get their ducks in a line.
	Anyhow, this is Jim Hanson.
	It is Contemplating World War III Day here on America First Radio, and we've got David Goldman, Spangler from the Asia Times, to talk about that stuff with Nancy Pelosi a little later in the show.
	For now, let's take a break, and I'll be back with Julio Rosas from townhall.com after the break.
	All right, mics are on.
	All right.
	All right.
	The chat's already engaging, Jim.
	Some of them want to know, what style of camo is that?
	Some said World War II, and some said Aussie.
	Hey, brother.
	Good to see you.
	Yeah, you could tell him it's designer fake.
	Designer fake camo.
	John Varvatos is what you could tell him.
	Gotcha.
	There you go, Rumble Chat.
	Three and a half minutes.
	Yeah, you can cut to him.
	And the mics are live.
	You can let Julio know the mics are live as well.
	Yeah, their mics are live.
	That's nice.
	I recognize that one.
	He's a, I've never met him, but he's like a big fan of mine.
	It's a, they make like, take off on the use of sock patch, which is interesting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, well, this one's cause his normal one is just, is just that, but this is radio signals.
	Okay.
	You know, you can't stop the signal.
	You can't stop the signal.
	Dude, all Firefly references are plus 100.
	There we go.
	Every single time.
	And so, he's like a big fan of mine, and so literally every time I try to buy something off his store, he's like, no, he refunds me the money, and he just sends it to me.
	And it's like, cool, because I have an actual shooting belt from him, and that costs like $8.
	I like people like that.
	So I recently got something else from the store and I saw again he like refunded it and I just told him like next time like if I ever see you in person I'm doing a reverse mugging I'm gonna force you to take like you're gonna take my money and you're gonna like it.
	We're talking about crime.
	Urban cities, yes.
	Dude, it's lawlessness to me.
	That kind of seems like it's your beat.
	Oh, definitely.
	Lawlessness from the violent offender side and then lawlessness from failure to enforce our laws.
	It's a double-edged sword because it feeds on itself.
	It's yeah I mean there's a direct line from 2020 from the riots to that's that's where I want to go and the border too I can say that it's the same it's the same concept just a different yeah it's a different you doing two segments all right cool Minute 45.
	Oh, dude!
	So how's life?
	It hasn't been that long since I saw you.
	No, I mean, I'm going to CPAC on... I'm flying there Thursday because I have a border crisis panel with Kerry Lake and Mayra Flores and Tom Holman.
	I'm moderating.
	How good is that?
	I'm moderating that.
	I'm really hoping she wins, just so it can make the conversation more interesting.
	Doesn't it look like she's gonna?
	It's like neck and neck.
	Nobody knows.
	At this point, you can't tell.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And nobody knows polling, you know.
	There's just no way.
	I stopped trying to figure that out.
	I know.
	I want to because I want someone to... I want to feel like I can relax.
	You know, like something's going well and we're gonna win this or something, but it never goes that way.
	We go craziness to craziness.
	I was trying to look and see, I figured Seb had a copy of your book, but I couldn't find one.
	It's always fun to wave them around.
	Yeah, honestly, that's my fault.
	I just, I won't, because I forget how the new set up, new studio set up is.
	I should have... Late night TV, man.
	You know?
	We've got a picture we can show when you mention it.
	Alright, yeah, well I'm gonna, when I intro him, I'll read the book title, and if it's long enough, you've got time to get it up there for a while.
	I'll speak slow, so it stays up longer.
	No worries, 30 seconds.
	Alright, kill mics.
	I used to do that when people would put my book up, like on one of the TV segments.
	Mm-hmm.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	It is Jim Hanson sitting in for Dr. G doing America First Radio, and I am tickled pink to be talking to Julio Rosas, a former U.S.
	Marine, a town hall senior writer, but author of the book that I think sums up some of our problems here, Fiery but Mostly Peaceful, the 2020 Riots and the Gaslighting of America.
	Welcome to the show, brother.
	Thanks, Jim.
	But you said former U.S.
	Marine, there's no such thing.
	Yeah, I thought it was ex.
	What are you guys, you guys are so testy about that, man.
	Marines, man.
	I used to always say when I was, because I was on Okinawa, first Special Forces groups on Okinawa, and so we had Marines.
	You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a Marine.
	But I always said everyone should have a squad of them just when you need something broken.
	So we tried almost every deployment.
	We would bring Marines with us just because.
	Yeah, why not?
	Yeah, I'm sure they're happy.
	Exactly.
	Army Rangers and U.S.
	Marines are equally good at breaking things, I think.
	Oh yeah, definitely.
	But hey, look, your book.
	Your book and what I kind of see as your beat is what I would describe as the lawlessness beat.
	Lawless from the side of the rioters and the violent protests and the fiery but mostly peaceful garbage.
	Lawless from the people who try to pretend no laws are being broken.
	They're fiery but mostly peaceful.
	And then lawless from the side of law enforcement not enforcing the laws.
	If we don't have that, the country literally, that feeds on itself and we get what we have today.
	No, it's definitely a ripple effect, and that's part of the reason why I wrote the book, because it's not only about my experience covering all these different riots in 2020 and the experiences of others who were impacted by it, but you look at the crime rates that we're seeing right now, and it's egregious because oftentimes it's being perpetrated by people who should be locked up but aren't, and because they
	Because of 2020 and because of what happened our whole criminal justice system has been turned in on itself where to now you know people uh who multiple convictions or multiple you know warrants out they get let out because well that's the equitable thing to do that's the you know the You said the word.
	You said equitable.
	Equity is garbage.
	Equity is equality of outcome.
	It has nothing to do with equality of opportunity or anything.
	Equality of outcome is gaming the system so that all the results are the same regardless of what people did to deserve them or not.
	And that's kind of what you're talking about there, is how do you take the fact that there is disparity in the amount of arrests and the amount of people in prison based on color and other factors?
	Is it because of that or is it because of the crime?
	And when you throw equity in there, they're trying to fix it after the fact rather than at the root cause.
	If there's more crime being committed by a particular segment of the population, then guess what?
	We should have more people from that segment of the population in jail.
	And then we should look at why that crime is happening.
	And I'll go along with, we need to do a lot of work in the inner cities because they suck.
	They're under Democrat rule is why they suck.
	But let's start there rather than trying to gain the outcome.
	Right and that's the issue because now what we're seeing is uh you know just like with the riots and like who that impacted the most it was minority communities the people are being most impacted by this crime wave right now is is also minorities and you know more specifically black people and hispanics and so when you know when we look at what happened in 2020 to where we are today I mean we've we've completely lost the plot and and it's just it's very disheartening because I mean I'm very recently uh Was covering shootings in Chicago over the Fourth of July weekend.
	And it was, you know, I grew up from the Chicagoland area.
	I'm not from the city itself, but from the surrounding suburbs.
	And it's something I always heard about, but you know, now it's like the worst it's ever been in a very long time.
	And guess what?
	A lot of the people that I was talking to, you know, a lot of people I was talking to, or the people who were impacted, it was black people and brown people.
	And then and then it just just so happened I was in Chicago when then the Highland Park shooting happened and of course that got all the coverage and all the people back in Chicago on the south and west side were thinking like that's just a weekend for yeah I mean they're like where's that we want attention like like that too and so you know obviously you know they deserve equal coverage but that's the thing that's so twisted about where we were in 2020 to where we are today is that more minorities are dying as a result of these you know equitable social justice type policies
	Defunding the police doesn't hurt rich white women drinking wine in the suburbs.
	And I think one of the things I've noticed that I find heartening is the change in Hispanic sentiment towards Republicans.
	You know, I mean there's been a long-standing quality campaign by the left and the Democrats to demonize the right as if because we oppose illegal immigration we somehow hate brown people.
	And nothing could be further from the truth for most of the people I know.
	It's that we don't like illegal immigration.
	We like people who share our values, who are here legally.
	And you get a situation like that, and then that gets misconstrued.
	Then you take the riots, you take all the stuff that you covered, and as you said, who got affected?
	Whose businesses?
	Right?
	Law-abiding, Family-oriented, religious Hispanics who had quality businesses burned down by the dozens and hundreds and thousands in all of those cities.
	They lost everything.
	And those people looking at it like, okay Democrats, what are you doing for me?
	You're killing me!
	Yeah, and that's why, I mean, best part of the book, I went back to places like Minneapolis and Kenosha, and it was really kind of just heartbreaking to see just how, you know, months later, they're still struggling.
	A lot of them still have, for lack of a better term, you know, post-traumatic stress.
	From everything, because now not only did they realize that it already, you know, they have to deal with the stress of it happening once already, but at the back of their mind, they're thinking, well, it could just as easily happen again.
	And that's why Kenosha was on edge during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, because, you know, they were worried that if he was found innocent, as he should have been, as someone who was there, shot in self-defense, they were worried that, you know, leftists were going to burn the town again, because, you know, now, thankfully, it was a cold night, so the leftists were...
	I mean it was Wisconsin right before Thanksgiving so I mean yeah it was it was to be expected so thankfully you know the cold weather spared them but that that's why it's so maddening when I mean Paul Krugman just just this past weekend again he was saying he was downplaying the riots say like oh it's one of the you know these the biggest myths United States that, you know, whole cities were burned down or, you know, he was saying that was overhyped.
	And it's just, you know, Paul Krugman over here, he didn't have to deal with any of that.
	He didn't have to clean up the mess that was left behind.
	So that myth on the left is still pervasive today.
	And, you know, I just wanted to have... And they use it.
	And I think that's where, you know, talking about the idea of lawlessness, they said, OK, let's defund the police.
	Let's stop cash bail.
	You know, let's let out all these people who Definitely belong in jail.
	Now, I don't want people in prison, but I don't want criminals on the streets a lot more.
	And I think between the two, the people have a right to say, keep the criminals away, you know, from, from the rest of us, and then let's deal with the underlying problems.
	Yeah, and I think because, you know, for especially for people on the left, especially in the aftermath of 2020, they view it as we can only do one.
	You know, we have to defund the police so that therefore we can fund all these services.
	And, you know, I think, you know, maybe when it comes to like having mental health professionals also be on calls, I think, you know, that could also be in tandem with - Exactly. - Because unfortunately, some people, yeah, they might be having a mental health crisis.
	There was a recent case in Minneapolis not too long ago where this guy appeared to be having a mental health crisis, but he was shooting through the apartment walls.
	He terrorized this mother and her kids.
	And so police, unfortunately, had to take him out after a six hour standoff because he was getting ready to shoot again. - That's what we pay him for.
	Well, we're going to take a break.
	We're talking with Julio Rosas, and his book, Fiery but Mostly Peaceful, The 2020 Riots and the Gaslighting of America, is just spot on with the problem we have right now.
	So after the break, we will talk some more about lawlessness in America.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First.
	All right, mics are on.
	Mics are back on.
	They've only had a deal with... Well, New York City had a deal with 4,000.
	I don't know how many have been... It's always in the thousands, but it's just... That's such a great move.
	Yeah, and actually Abbott... I'm writing this up after I'm done with this.
	Abbott invited Bowser and Adams to visit the border in Texas.
	And it wasn't even, I mean, obviously it's a little condescending.
	It's a little like, you know, pithy, but it's like, look, we're both dealing with this.
	So like, let's work together.
	Seriously.
	I mean, if you want to whine about it and you're sitting in the place, cause the nice thing about it for Bowser is she owns the capital.
	She owns the people who are causing this.
	She owns the capital and the white house, right?
	That's the people who are causing this problem.
	Walk down the street and talk to them.
	Yeah.
	You know, they could change those policies tomorrow and we wouldn't have to deal with that.
	How's the book doing?
	Is it rocking?
	Oh, yeah.
	Good, good.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Who's your publisher?
	Daily Wire.
	Was it?
	Yeah, it was one of the first, because they launched their publishing house last year, and I was one of the first people that they signed and published.
	Those guys are smart.
	They do a lot of things right.
	I'm impressed by that operation.
	I mean, just seeing how they're just expanding is crazy.
	Well, they're doing other smart things too.
	They're getting in the culture war.
	That school shooter movie, that Run Hyde Fight?
	It was actually pretty good.
	That was actually a good movie.
	Not a good movie by conservatives or anything else.
	That was a good movie.
	Yeah, it was pretty good.
	Although I didn't like that chick on that Western show.
	Did you see her?
	That 1883?
	The same chick from the Run Hyde fight was this... She was on the wagon train show, 1883, going on the Oregon Trail.
	And at some point they turn her into this, like, Indian princess goddess thing.
	I swear to God, it was the dumbest storyline in the world.
	And she's all dressed up in these, you know, vests with the beads and everything, riding the horse.
	Isn't that cultural appropriation?
	Totally!
	But she married the guy, you know, so kinda.
	Oh, so colonizer.
	Exactly, it was everything.
	Colonizer by marriage, there you go.
	And it was so stupid, you know, because I mean, okay, I'm a huge fan of cultural appropriation because I consider it appreciation.
	I mean, I've been all over the world and when I find something cool, I borrow it and tell other people about it.
	You know, it might be food, it might be music, it might be clothes, I don't care.
	It might be slang.
	What was your favorite Filipino slang?
	That's like, air appropriate.
	Yeah, I was just thinking about that.
	Most of the stuff I know.
	We'll do it off the air.
	I had a buddy who taught me a nice long phrase that is totally inappropriate, but I'm sure I can still remember it.
	He was a pretty fluent speaker.
	I was a craptastic speaker.
	I could deal with balut and food.
	You did balut, right?
	The rotten duck egg?
	Fermented duck egg?
	Holy crap, dude.
	We gotta talk about that.
	You missed out.
	You were cheating.
	I never deployed.
	I was a reservist.
	Yeah, all right.
	And then the vaccine mandate, the COVID vaccine mandate was coming.
	I'm like, all right, I'm out.
	Yeah, that's smart.
	I literally had three different recruiters have called me since, and they're like, hey, you want to come in?
	I'm like, Matt.
	I'm like, Matt. Matt.
	I'm like, Matt.
	Sweaty Uncle Teddy said it best.
	working hard, playing hard.
	American families in the asset column, thank you for driving home truth, logic, and common sense every day.
	We are with you.
	America first.
	Magnificent.
	Sweaty Uncle Teddy said it best.
	Hey, it's Jim Hansen sitting in for Dr. G, and we're going to continue our conversation with Julio Rosas.
	Former not ex, still essentially a U.S.
	Marine or something, because whatever, they're testy about that.
	And senior writer for townhall.com, but it's his book, Fiery but Mostly Peaceful, The 2000 Riots and the Gaslighting of America, that I think illuminates perfectly the problem we have.
	Now you also, in addition to being a riot connoisseur and aficionado, like to go down to our very peaceful and only occasionally fiery border and look at the issues down there.
	And I gotta admit, I think one of my favorite things recently was Mayor Bowser of D.C.
	whining that she needs the National Guard, who she wouldn't call out to protect the Capitol.
	But she needs them because now Governor Abbott and Governor Ducey from Arizona are shipping her some of their aliens.
	And I think that is one of the most comical things.
	And all she's got to do is walk down and knock on the White House door and say, hey Joe, why don't you fix this?
	I mean, that is such a good example.
	Because, I mean, they love to talk about, I mean, Mary Bowser herself has said many times, especially during the Trump administration, they were sanctuary city, everyone's welcome, all this, you know, nice things.
	But then when reality hits, it's like, whoa, hey, I didn't mean it like that.
	Not in my city.
	So yeah, I mean, that is a prime example.
	And of course, it's a tiny fraction of what these border towns that I've been to many times, from Yuma, Arizona, all the way down to McAllen, Texas, that have had to deal with it.
	My favorite example of just how ridiculous the situation had gotten was during the Delta wave of COVID last year.
	So in the Rio Grande Valley, one of the hardest hit sectors, Uh, the city of McAllen and a bunch of other smaller localities, they had to ban their resources together in the county because they had to set up their own city, you know, county level, uh, COVID positive shelter, which was outside in a park, by the way, it wasn't inside because there was, there was no place to put them.
	These migrants that were testing, I mean, that's how many were testing positive because border patrol couldn't keep them.
	Their, their places were constantly overwhelmed and the local, you know, Catholic charities, which is the main one down there, they didn't have any room for them either.
	So literally, if it wasn't for the cities, pulling their resources together, there'd be COVID-positive migrants just all over the place.
	And I mean, even still with that, there's still a lot of COVID-positive migrants traveling throughout the country.
	And this was happening at the same time when they were debating like, oh, do we want a vaccine mandate for air flights? - Yeah, they'll shut down, lockdown, destroy American business, ruin several years of childhood education.
	Destroy how many small businesses for people all over the country.
	And force people out of the military for not taking the vaccine.
	But I don't care!
	As long as you're coming illegally across the border, bring it on!
	What an absurd concept!
	Yeah, and it's just typical of the Biden administration, where it's just like, look, we either are in a pandemic or we're not.
	And you can't have it both ways, where you're going to want to treat American citizens, your own people that pay taxes, differently than the people who the very first act is to break the law.
	So yeah, the border is, the border's been an issue for a very long time, right?
	That's nothing new.
	Our lawless border, our open border.
	But the Biden administration just seems to be, you know, their typical response to anything, I mean, take any issue is just, well, we're going to make it 10 times worse on purpose.
	I mean, seriously, but then the joke that I kind of like to say is like, well, maybe Biden's trying to solve the border crisis by making America so worse that people stop coming.
	Can you imagine that?
	I wish you weren't joking.
	The idea that everyone on earth really does want to come here and they turn it so bad, oh, we fixed immigration because America now is a crap hole.
	Right.
	But we're not in a recession, keep that in mind.
	Yeah.
	So it's the same exact thing with what I saw during the riots, where it was an abdication of authority.
	And that's basically kind of what we're seeing now at the border.
	Same problem with big cities in terms of law enforcement retention.
	Border patrols, same problem.
	They have super low morale, they're having fewer people sign up.
	So then, therefore, a lot of these agents, they're overstressed, they're overtaxed.
	There's been, you know, just from anecdotes that I've been hearing from my sources within Border Patrol, there's been an increase in suicides, which is something that hasn't really been covered a whole lot.
	And even when I was in Chicago during the Fourth of July, there was a suicide and there was an officer shot, just in literally a two-day period.
	And in July alone, in the Chicago Police Department, there was at least three suicides.
	And that's the result of having policies where we no longer enforce our own laws because we don't like the outcome.
	And I'm sorry, the citizens and taxpayers of America deserve to have our laws enforced by the people who do it, and those people need our support, not our derision for doing their jobs when the vast majority of them are quality people doing the hardest things there are.
	We have been talking with Julio Rosas.
	U.S.
	Marine, senior writer for townhall.com, author of Fiery but Mostly Peaceful, The 2020 Riots and the Gaslighting of America.
	Check it out because he's far too correct and that's a lot of stuff we gotta fix.
	This is Jim Hanson sitting in for Seb doing America First Radio.
	We'll be back after the break.
	All right, mics are on.
	They're talking a lot about how so-called Catholic charities are playing a big part in the border crisis.
	It's a moneymaker forum.
	All right.
	What's the rumble chat?
	Nothing.
	We haven't.
	Oh, we haven't done that yet.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	But the rumble chat is commenting on immigration.
	They're talking a lot about how so-called Catholic charities are playing a big part in the border crisis.
	It's a moneymaker for them.
	I mean, it's their grift.
	You're really seeing the Catholic Church and stuff like that doing too.
	As a non-Catholic, speaking like an outsider, it really does confirm for me that at this point, most organized religion is going to inherently become political at some point.
	Like, it's just, it's kind of inevitable, unfortunately.
	No doubt.
	No doubt.
	Alright, I got reads I should do.
	I should do a read.
	How long is this next segment?
	This is D, so this is 8 or 7, right?
	No, it's 8.
	It's 8, that's right.
	Okay.
	Alright, then.
	You wanna do, let's do the Ukraine one then.
	Okay.
	With the food?
	Yep.
	So, let me see.
	Oh, is this, uh, food for the poor, Geoff?
	Yes.
	Starting today, food for the poor, and then it cut, okay.
	I see where it is.
	Cool.
	So it's just, uh, remember this cut we did.
	Alright, and then I will announce, okay, so, Rumble Chat, if you're listening.
	Listen up, Rumble.
	I'mma, I'mma talk to you people in, on the air.
	Hold on, you want the phones open now, or after the segment?
	Um... Yeah, why not?
	Alright.
	So here's what I want from the Rumble Chat.
	I am offering the five-minute rant challenge.
	Any topic you people can come up with.
	And Eric will be the moderator of what you come up with.
	We're going to pick the top three that you guys come up with in the next couple segments.
	And then we'll put those out on Seb's Twitter and have a poll.
	And whatever the top topic that you guys come up with, and it can be anything, I will open it up to anything, in the third hour, I will do at least a five minute rant on that topic, regardless of what it is, based on the results of the Twitter poll.
	So Rumble gets to generate.
	The ideas, and you can be crazy.
	You can be wild, because why not?
	I mean, put me on the spot.
	I think I can do it.
	So, come up with the ideas.
	I mean, it might be nice if maybe one of the three was related to what's going on, but it doesn't have to be.
	So, knock yourselves out, come up with crazy ideas, and then we'll tweet it out second hour, and then third hour, I will deliver the pure heat.
	We're giving full reign to the rumble chat.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	Yeah, I just, I think it's a great idea.
	Oh, we already have suggestions rolling in.
	Do you want to hear them over the course of the show, Jim, or do you want to save them for one big time?
	Yeah, man, just bring them on.
	I mean, because I'll leave it to you to pick the three, but... Just so everyone knows you're being heard.
	BATNF19NEWCHATTLE, I still don't know how to pronounce your name, buddy.
	In all caps, he says, REPARATIONS, question mark.
	Oh, that's lively.
	I can see that's easy, but yeah.
	And that's just it.
	It can be fun or it can be tough for me.
	I mean, it's a low bar, but if anyone can get down on their knees and get underneath it, right?
	topic yeah I'm jotting all these down a little notepad as I see them yeah that's this comms will Kamala really be a worse president than Biden oh good one DC 42 yeah I say yes as a former Californian I say I mean it's a low bar but if anyone can get down on her knees and get underneath it right none of them are different yeah ask Willie Brown my friends ask Willie Brown Alright, 30 seconds.
	Alright.
	I gotta keep up with the chat, there's so many topics coming in.
	in i had a feeling you're welcome
	can't handle the truth Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Hey folks, it's Jim Hanson sitting in for Dr. G. We're going to start off with once again asking for your help on behalf of a Christian non-profit relief organization, Food for the Poor.
	There's a banner up right now at sebgorka.com.
	But with inflation, gas prices, and primary elections commanding so many headlines this month, it would be easy to forget that the war in Ukraine is still raging.
	And that means hundreds of thousands of children and families remain displaced.
	They have not been able to return home and these refugees remain in desperate need of food and water.
	Listen to just one woman who is in desperate need of support after being displaced by the war.
	There is no gas, no electricity, no heating, no cell phone service.
	We melt snow to have at least something to drink.
	We cook on open fires under shelling and bombs just because if you don't you will have nothing to eat.
	That's horrifying to hear.
	But with help from men and women just like you, Food for the Poor has partnered with other relief organizations and ministry partners.
	And already they've either delivered or have en route over 11 million meals for starving children and families in Ukraine.
	But that still leaves another 5 million meals they need to deliver to children who desperately need food in war-torn Ukraine.
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	Okay, we're getting mildly crazy today.
	The world's crazy, so we're trying to join it.
	I have opened up a challenge to the people in the streaming rumble chat to come up with any topics they can And we'll end up picking one of them for me to deliver a five-minute rant on.
	Unprepared.
	I don't know what it's going to be.
	It can be anything.
	All right?
	I don't get a vote.
	Eric's going to moderate and pick the three most interesting ones out of the rumble chat.
	Then in the second hour of the show, we'll tweet that out on Twitter and have a poll.
	And then whatever the top vote getter is, regardless of what topic it is, I will deliver an unprepared rant on that in the third hour, the five o'clock eastern hour.
	Why?
	Because I felt like it, and it sounds like fun, and I'm hoping it's something absurd.
	Probably going to be gay orgies, knowing this crowd.
	That's just what I'll end up having to do, five minutes on gay orgies, but whatever.
	But hey, when we were talking with Julio last segment about lawlessness, it leads me to what I want to mention.
	There's a response to lawlessness, and it literally is in the Second Amendment, the well-regulated militia.
	It's the well-regulated militia is there in case the Canadians come roaring across the border, you know, on snowmobiles all hopped up on Tim Hortons and, you know, the bats.
	Or if there is chaos and law enforcement is not able to deal with it.
	Now if you think about that, during the riots many of those cities called off and stood down their police forces and left those business people and the citizens of their locales unprotected.
	There was no one protecting, no one serving.
	Not because the cops chose to do that, because the civilian leadership didn't want to get crosswise with Black Lives Matter.
	Well, guess what?
	That's not fair.
	That's not why we pay our taxes.
	But we do have a recourse.
	You, as a law-abiding citizen of the United States, can rise up and protect your community.
	People probably remember, if you're old enough, the LA riots and the Korean rooftop, you know, the rooftop Koreans.
	They were on top of their own buildings with shotguns saying, you're not going to loot my business.
	You know, and if you want another example, I'm sure everyone remembers, Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha, where Julio actually was, was a member of the militia protecting that community in the absence of law enforcement and fire department resources, which were called off by the city.
	That is one of the expected uses of the well-regulated militia.
	Now, there's a downside to that, and Kyle Rittenhouse saw it.
	You do not gain police power when you assume a role, self-initiated, as a member of the militia protecting your community.
	You are still subject to all the normal laws of the state, and you get no, you know, discretion based on the fact that you're doing it for good reason, what you get is the opportunity to, if for some reason you are wrongly charged, if you didn't commit a crime and you're wrongly charged, you will be tried by a jury of your peers.
	That's what happened to Kyle Rittenhouse.
	He should never have been charged.
	That was prosecutorial abuse by that weasel in the DA's office there, the one who liked to wear the Star Trek pins and his little goofy hairdo.
	They should have never put a charge on Kyle.
	But fortunately, the good people of Kenosha understood that he wasn't out there trying to go attack people or do anything.
	He went out to protect the community, to stop people from destroying, you know, the car lots, to help people with his medical bag.
	And he was attacked by known criminals, pedophiles, sexual abusers, all of whom got what they deserved.
	And when Kyle went on trial, he was rightly acquitted.
	Now that's a risk you take.
	But when you talk about the lawlessness going on in this country now, where the criminals are empowered, the police have less freedom, they're less likely to take action because they're being told, don't do anything that's going to cause the next George Floyd incident.
	Well, guess what?
	That's not what we pay for when we pay taxes.
	When I pay a dime in taxes, one of the few things I want past Rhodes is police taking care of criminals.
	Because I don't want to do it myself.
	I shouldn't have to do it myself.
	But if they don't, I will do it myself.
	And that's going to be a lot worse for the criminals, I'll tell you right now.
	Because I will trust in that jury of my peers.
	And if I'm the guy they've got to face, it's not going to go well for the bad guys.
	And every one of us has that God-given right, guaranteed by the Second Amendment of the Constitution.
	We just should be able to count on our law enforcement and our government to take care of us.
	Let's get back to that.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio, and we will be back after the break.
	All right, Mike, you're on. you're on.
	I forgot to talk about the phone lines, but that's alright.
	This is a short one, right?
	Yeah, 3 minutes 50 seconds.
	Want to take a moment to read a super chat here.
	A $2 donation from GasStationSushi26.
	Love that name.
	God bless the 38 souls of Extortion17.
	August 6, 2011.
	11th anniversary coming up.
	Wow.
	Thank you very much, GasStationSushi26.
	Yeah, that was a hellish day.
	Still a lot of questions about that.
	I don't know.
	There's people who have a lot, some fairly well-developed theories about what happened.
	I don't know, but I do know that a lot of good people died, and that's horrible.
	Did we ever end up getting who did it?
	Because didn't they kill the wrong people?
	It was believed to be in retaliation for Bin Laden, right?
	Like, that was kind of the working story?
	But how do you know?
	That's the problem with that area.
	Nobody there tells the truth, so.
	Yeah.
	Nobody knows whose name is who.
	You know, it's all garbage.
	Oh, and another one from Gas Station Sushi26 for another $2.
	God bless the souls of Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Ty Woods, Glenn Doherty.
	Never forget the Benghazi 4.
	The 2nd, September 11th.
	Alright, 100 seconds to go.
	Lots of good suggestions rolling in here.
	I'll weed out a few that are kind of basic or I know you've already talked about before.
	We need at least one outrageous one.
	Pick whatever the most outrageous topic that could be.
	I'll just throw in a few here just so you know them because these are too good.
	They have to be mentioned.
	Sunny G2 topic.
	Add landmines at the border like they do in North Korea.
	Why should that be a problem?
	Oh my goodness.
	I'm in.
	in.
	Good ideas.
	Alright, one minute.
	What am I talking about?
	45 seconds.
	Alright, Kilmix. Kilmix. Kilmix. Kilmix. Kilmix. Kilmix. Kilmix. Kilmix.
	The End
	News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
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	So I was spending my daily productive time on Twitter making liberals cry and everyone sad.
	But I also noticed that Reuters was doing fact checks.
	And OK, you know, at some level I wish that was a useful thing.
	You know, I wish that somehow we had Somebody who you could trust to go ahead and look at a situation, a contentious issue, you know, and go ahead and weigh the facts and drop the important information, you know, in a way that everyone could then use that to make an informed decision.
	Yeah, well that ain't what we got.
	We got nothing of the sort.
	What we've got is Reuters, the largest news organization in the world, fact-checking memes.
	They are literally now doing things, and we have a fact check today that says, the Atlantic did not publish a headline on the quiet courage of Biden's economy.
	Now seriously, Reuters took the time to look at a photoshopped version of an Atlantic, you know, a screenshot of what appeared to be an Atlantic newsletter.
	And it said, the quiet courage of Biden's negative growth economy.
	In an era of unchecked economic prosperity, one man had the moxie to pump the brakes to save us from ourselves.
	That's a joke!
	That is an obvious joke.
	But no, no, no.
	The problem we have is the mighty, powerful news organizations like Reuters think that people can't tell the difference between a joke and reality.
	Now, I'll give them one thing.
	People are stupid, and I'm not talking about just the other side.
	Both sides have enough people who are morons.
	But in this world, if we're going to not be able to joke without news organizations taking time from lying to us themselves to point out that other people are cracking jokes, I don't even know what to say.
	And that wasn't the only one.
	There were one or two more where they fact-checked memes.
	Keep up the good work, Reuters.
	We need you.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	That is our first hour of America First Radio.
	There's a lot more.
	It's going to be a great show.
	We're going to rock our way into this week.
	We'll be back after the break.
	Yeah.
	Judge Thomas, you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you guys.
	I do.
	Please be seated.
	When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
	You were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat.
	Someplace in my life, the road split off.
	I'd gone to the seminary.
	I'd gone to all white schools.
	I was never gonna be a part of that world.
	I was never gonna be white.
	The problem is I can never go back completely to the world I came from.
	We're supposed to be revolutionaries.
	We work for anybody who's kind of in your face.
	I saw what I had become, lashing out at every single thing.
	And then I asked God that if you take anger out of my heart, I'll never hate again.
	And that was the beginning of the slow return to where I started.
	I want my candidacy to unify our country.
	I was under constant attack.
	You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do.
	I will nominate Judge Clarence Thomas to serve as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
	That's when all heck broke loose.
	Judge Thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex.
	We know exactly what's going on here.
	This is the wrong black guy.
	He has to be destroyed.
	You really didn't matter.
	What mattered was what they wanted.
	So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
	I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
	I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my oath and did my best.
	Obama taught his country down!
	No one stood up to him!
	Nobody!
	Because he was black!
	You need to wake up!
	My parents didn't teach me that I was a victim.
	They can turn back voting rights.
	Didn't nobody donate to us the right to vote.
	Uncle Tom is somebody who has sold out by embracing the white man.
	Uncle Tom.
	Bedwines.
	Bootlicker.
	Black white supremacist.
	Chucking and jiving.
	House negro.
	Coon.
	Uncle Tom.
	Coon.
	Coon.
	I have a Coon award over there.
	Racism.
	of the year war most black people don't believe that other blacks can be independent free thinkers i believe the legacy and the ancestry of black americans is being insulted every single day i will not pretend to be a victim in this country i know that that makes many people on the left uncomfortable racist racist racial racist racism a thousand cuts of racism the liberal will try to control a black person through the concept of racism because they know that we are very proud
	I never felt that because I was black or I was poor or a woman that I couldn't do something.
	I grew up being told of my disadvantages, that this country is unfair to black people.
	The ideology is implanted into you subconsciously to believe these things.
	It's like a cancerous plague in the mind of black Americans.
	We're brainwashed to think, well, is it because I'm black?
	America's not ours, so we got shipped here.
	No, our blood is on this soil.
	We own this, too.
	There should be a pride that we have in the fact that this country was built by many great black men and women.
	Are you trying to say that this country does not specialize in racism and bigotry?
	So long as black people continue to have their psyche filled by that nonsense, we won't have an awakening.
	All right, we have two minutes here.
	Oh, he's putting his headphones back in.
	Alright, two minutes and I'm gonna go ahead and tweet out that poll now.
	We don't have any, like, restrictions on talking about trans issues, do we?
	Uh, not to my knowledge.
	That'd be a tough question.
	Because I talk on Twitter so much.
	And I censor myself.
	You know?
	And it pisses me off.
	So I'm gonna open with a, uh... Well, this is Rumble, after all.
	I mean, as far as, you know, like, big tech is concerned, yeah, Rumble, you can talk about whatever you want.
	And, I mean, Salem, it's radio, right?
	Right, yeah.
	So as long as it's FCC compliant, you're good.
	Hell, we did eight gay orgies.
	That still is one of my favorite things ever.
	The fact that it ended up being a total 3v1 and Ned still came out on top is just, in the testament, just how easy it is.
	Alright, the poll is up.
	I will be keeping an eye on it.
	Alright.
	You can feel free to check it out and cast your vote, Jim, if you want.
	I think I should let this one ride.
	Although I'll retweet it.
	Yeah, it should be at the top of his Twitter feed.
	Uh, 30 seconds. . 30 seconds. .
	.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, good to be back.
	And always a pleasure to sit in for Dr. G. We now have up on Twitter a poll with three options for a five-ish minute rant from me.
	Unplanned, unknown, solicited, I guess, from the Rumble Chat folks.
	And so that's now up if you want to vote on Twitter.
	and decide what I will be talking about for at least part of the show in the third hour, do it!
	And I will talk about it.
	Right now I want to talk about Uncle Tom 2, which unveils the Marxist strategy of creating false racial tension between Americans, its ultimate goals obtaining power, destroying capitalism, and replacing God with government.
	Pre-order Uncle Tom 2 today on SalemNow.com.
	Go to SalemNow.com today and do it because it's a good show and it's an important topic.
	And I think it's indicative of the entire woke agenda that we are now under assault from.
	They started during the Obama administration with their fundamental transformation of this country attempting to turn it into a socialist craphole.
	And, you know, why don't we go ahead.
	Let's let's open up the phone lines because there's been a lot of interesting stuff going on.
	833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	But I want to know what your most offensive woke piece of the woke agenda is, because I think I would have said I wrote a book called The Myth of White Facility about how the entire anti-racism grift is racist because I think I would have said I wrote a book called The Myth And I would normally say that that would be my biggest offense.
	But I have changed my mind.
	And I think the insanity around the trans non-binary...
	I guess removal of the natural, scientific sexuality from reality is what I think is the most offensive part of the woke agenda.
	I mean, to some extent, you know, the CRT-based things at least have some sort of legitimate beef to start with, because slavery was an egregious stain on this country, the biggest one we will ever face.
	But nobody did anything to deserve the destruction of human sexuality currently underway.
	The idea that now children are being taught from the age that they can contemplate something, you know, at the level of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, that they should be thinking about what their gender is.
	What is your sexuality, young Billy?
	You know, here's a juice box.
	Here's a couple Legos.
	Do you want to be a boy or a girl?
	Or do you want to be a non-binary forest elf?
	You know, I don't even understand what it is.
	Because the number of people who legitimately were affected by this...
	And there are some.
	You know, there are people who are in some way under the impression that they are not the gender that their sex is.
	Because you can't change the sex.
	I don't care what they do.
	There is nothing they can do or say that makes a male a female.
	Now what they've done is to torture the words man and woman completely out of any recognizable form to the point where now they can't even tell you what a woman is.
	Matt Walsh with the perfect movie, what is a woman?
	That's Supreme Court Justice Katonji Brown.
	She refused to answer the question because she knew she'd be offending some part of her leftist constituency.
	If they can't even say what a woman is, there is no core reason we have to care.
	If they don't know what it is, we know what it is.
	I know what a woman is.
	It's an adult female human.
	Same as a male.
	Or a man is an adult female man.
	Or adult male human.
	But the problem is, they have stretched that now to where it doesn't have a meaning that matters.
	You know, the idea of womanhood is undefined.
	They took any reality from it.
	So now, if you say you're a woman, what does that mean?
	Do I like to wear dresses?
	No, because men wear dresses.
	I have babies?
	No, no, no, because men and non-binary can be birthing people too.
	So what is a woman if the idea is that that word is worth using?
	I mean, they've essentially made it useless, and consequently we don't have any reason to listen to them about it anymore.
	Now, the problem is, I can have this little rant I'm having right now on radio and on Rumble, but I can't do this on Twitter.
	Because if I did this on my Twitter feed, I'd get a little notice from some saying, Naughty Uncle Jimbo!
	You're not allowed to talk about that.
	You have to play along with the woke agenda.
	Because the tech tyrants are prime progenitors and propagators of this garbage non-science.
	So we now have to pretend, along with them, That anyone who wants to be a woman is a woman.
	That's all it takes.
	All it requires is the force of will.
	I mean, I can't get my mind around doing it, but I guess technically if I wanted to become a woman during this show, I could do that.
	Because there's nothing to it.
	There is no requirement.
	I don't have to have surgery.
	I don't have to have any kind of therapy.
	I don't have to have anything other than the will to call myself a woman Which is now meaningless.
	And at some level, if adults want to play these games and do this and, you know, and go ahead and indulge their fantasies, this is America.
	You're allowed to do that.
	What you should not be allowed to do in our public schools is expose our kids to this garbage as if it's something that should be taken seriously.
	It most assuredly should not.
	But they're doing it.
	Every second of every day they are going ahead and telling kids that, no, there is actually, no, you're You're not a boy because you are a male child with the appropriate sexual organs.
	No, you should not go to the boys' bathroom.
	As a matter of fact, we're only going to have one bathroom.
	And everyone will share it and no one will be concerned about this.
	I'm sorry, that is a sick way to destroy the very fabric of our culture.
	There is nothing wrong with there being differences between men and women.
	There are.
	It's indistinguishable.
	It's unmistakable.
	So I refuse to play along at the level of anything beyond politeness to an individual, but at a social and cultural level, we need to let this go.
	We got caller.
	We got somebody on line one.
	Paula from Columbus.
	What you got in mind?
	Just thinking, you know, with all of this gender, transgender and the, you know, boys playing in girls' sports, that maybe they need to start having the XX sports and the XY sports.
	And just do a little chromosome test, and a person can have their card saying, I'm eligible to play in the XX games, I'm eligible to play in the XY games, because girls are XX, boys are XY.
	That's way too common sense, Paula.
	That actually makes perfect sense because there are physiological differences between the sexes.
	And I think the people who honestly should be the maddest about this are the feminists who fought to get women's sports funded and in play and to give women a chance when they had been sidelined.
	Oh no, go ahead to Helmeck and learn how to bake pies, sweetie.
	Well no, I'm a jock girl.
	I want to compete against other jock girls and compete in sports.
	And we've taken that away from them.
	We've destroyed the idea that that difference between the sexes is okay.
	It doesn't mean it's not good or bad, it just is.
	And pretending it isn't is unhealthy.
	It's bad for the culture, it's bad for everyone.
	And it's fortunate, I think, that we've had these transsexual People trying to go ahead and crash those boundaries because it showed the absurdity of the left's whole agenda.
	And it boils down to one thing.
	You know, they want to break down normality.
	They do not want there to be anything that people can call normal.
	Because if you call it normal, that means there are people who are abnormal or outside the norm.
	And to be honest, that's not an insult.
	Almost all traits of humanity are on some kind of bell curve.
	You've got the most common things at the top of the bell curve and you've got the tail ends of the bell curve where things that are less common, in some cases much less common, are.
	That's not bad.
	That's just the way it is.
	And everybody can't be equal.
	Equity doesn't work because people have different abilities and there are going to be different outcomes.
	So gaming the outcomes doesn't help.
	Pretending that people aren't different doesn't help.
	Telling people that you should be tolerant of people who are different is one thing.
	Telling people that everything is the same and none of the biological and factual differences that we can see and we can experience in our own lives aren't real is not helpful.
	And that's really where we need to draw the line and start pushing back.
	So let's do that.
	Let's do that, everybody.
	And I know you are.
	This is the kind of audience that started that long before.
	But let's dig in a little bit and stop playing their stupid games, because I've had enough.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	I am sitting in for Dr. G. This is America First Radio.
	And we'll be back with more after the break.
	Mic's on.
	Jim, you're going to love this.
	The rumble chat.
	So I told them, of course, about the poll and one of the choices is alien versus predator.
	Right.
	And someone in the chat, Buck Fiden says, aliens versus predators.
	Give a green card to illegals in exchange for killing a child molester.
	Holy crap.
	I would throw in also drag queens would count.
	Drag queens would count.
	Transgenders.
	That's a bad idea.
	That might be a bridge too far.
	I'm not sure we can do that.
	It took me a moment to realize, and I'm like, oh, that's good.
	That goes along with the landmines at the border thing.
	So to get your green card, you have to kill a child.
	Oh my god.
	That's one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.
	Seriously.
	Yeah, like the borders.
	Either that or dig a moat along the border and put sharks with frickin' laser beams on their frickin' heads in the moat.
	Austin Powers style.
	Was that where the sharks with laser beams came from?
	Yes, that's from Austin Powers.
	Oh, yeah, okay.
	All right.
	Three minutes, and I think we're about to have Miss Divine on Skype here.
	Do we have one segment or two with David Goldman?
	Oh, this is Goldman?
	I'm sorry.
	This is Goldman.
	Two segments.
	Two segments.
	This is Goldman.
	Sorry, I thought.
	Okay, never mind then.
	Goldman, I'm next.
	But yes, we have his book, and yeah, he is David P. Goldman on Twitter.
	Okay.
	Let me make sure I get that Two and a half minutes.
	Yeah.
	All right, mic's back on.
	Mic's are on.
	Damn.
	Hi, it's Jim Golden.
	David, it's Jim Hanson.
	How are you?
	We have your video.
	Can you, uh, can you see me okay?
	We do not see you yet, but we hear you clearly.
	Hang on one second.
	Let me see if there's somewhere to turn on this video.
	Uh, well, that should do it.
	Okay.
	You can see me now.
	All right.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	Well, pleasure.
	Jim, you're looking like you're about to shoot ducks or somebody.
	Yeah, that's kind of it.
	You know, I'm going for that country squire kind of something similar to that.
	Excellent.
	I gotta get me a hat like that.
	You know, I do it because when I do that, it just shines too much and I don't think it adds to the effect.
	Well, I've been gluing this stuff back on every morning for the last 10 years.
	Maybe that's what I forgot to do.
	I should have thought of that.
	Well, my buddy David Reboy is going to be envious.
	He is one of your hugest fans.
	I'm one of his hugest fans.
	I just wish I had biceps like his.
	Those are huge.
	He's now officially a monster.
	He was always big, but he just, when he moved down to Miami, he got serious about it.
	Incredible Hulk.
	Yeah.
	Somebody's got to do it.
	I'm not gonna, I'm not, I'm not going to work that hard.
	Jinx monkey paw in the chat says Irish duck hunter.
	Irish duck hunter.
	I'm a peaky blinders in the duck blind, right?
	35 seconds.
	I'm gonna tee us up with Nancy Pelosi and we can go all over from there.
	Sure.
	Alright.
	All right, kill them, Mike.
	All right, kill kill them.
	All right, kill them.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, good to be back.
	And unfortunately, as the title of this show today implies, we are once again brinking our way toward World War III, and I'm not sure why.
	So because of that, I wanted to bring on someone who may be able to shed some light on this.
	David Goldman is the Spangler columnist for Asia Times and PJ Media, and the president of MacroStrategy LLC, and an all-around expert on the Pacific Rim and related Locales now I was a first group guy.
	So this is my area of operations as well.
	And I'm obviously I am a hundred percent believer that we cannot allow Taiwan to be pushed around and we can't allow the Chinese to tell us where Americans can and cannot go but I am at a loss to figure out why right now Nancy Pelosi seemed to have a unilateral need to conduct foreign policy into Taiwan.
	Do you have any idea what she's actually up to?
	Well, the charitable view is that Pelosi wants to show the flag and tell voters that the Democrats really aren't soft on Taiwan and on China, which, of course, the Republicans will attack the Biden administration for.
	The less charitable view is she's doing freelance diplomacy with the idea that we're going to show the flag and intimidate the Chinese and tell them that we're going to stand by Taiwan in a situation where we are not prepared militarily to defend it.
	Provocation from weakness is the opposite of peace through strength, which is what I believe in.
	And what she's doing, I think, is exceptionally dangerous and stupid.
	And the Biden administration owns that completely, because she's going to be flying in on an American military aircraft.
	So, and she essentially, by all appearances, undercuts Biden.
	Okay, she's Speaker of the House of Representatives.
	That's an important role.
	Trade and other things.
	And speakers do this.
	They do, you know, conduct delegations, congressional delegations, go on shopping trips all around the world, you know, to go ahead and buy stuff.
	But why isn't she doing it now and not letting Biden run our foreign policy?
	Well, it's totally possible that Biden thought he could Test Chinese resolve by doing this indirectly.
	From the standpoint of diplomatic protocol, and the Chinese are very legalistic, constitutionally, Pelosi is second in line to the president.
	Now, we have a one-China policy.
	That's the foundation of U.S.-China diplomatic relations going back to 72.
	When Nixon went there, it says that Taiwan, the mainland of Taiwan, will work out what their status is, but it's still one Now, if the president went to Taiwan, that would be the equivalent of diplomatic recognition.
	If the vice president went to Taiwan, it would be recognition.
	So sending the speaker who's next in line to the vice president in succession, according to the Constitution, is that close to playing with diplomatic recognition of a sovereign Taiwan, and that would be cause for war with China.
	Chinese will go to war over Taiwanese sovereignty.
	It's not because they hate democracy or they want to show how tough they are.
	It's a matter of the territorial integrity of a China, which has been chopped apart numerous times in the last couple of hundred years.
	We Americans have short memories.
	Chinese have vivid and long ones.
	And they play a long game, and we play a 24-hour news cycle of strategy.
	I guess I have a strong belief that we should do everything we can to convince the Chinese that they shouldn't do anything aggressive towards Taiwan and that our policy can include aggressive deterrence.
	I just don't think they've managed to pull that off with the inability of the White House to articulate this position.
	But what if, all right, now it appears she's going.
	It sounds like that she'll be there Tuesday night.
	And the Chinese have literally threatened that if we fly military aircraft into there, they're going to do something about it.
	Are they blowing smoke or could this actually blow up?
	Well, I don't think they're going to shoot down an American military aircraft.
	But when Xi Jinping tells President Biden, as he did, if you play with fire, you will get burned.
	That is language stronger than the Chinese have used at any time since we established diplomatic relations, not since the Korean War have they said things like that.
	Remember, Xi Jinping is facing a tough contest for his third term as premier.
	He's got the 20th Congress of the Communist Party coming up in November.
	And after he's put his credibility on the line, there's no way he can back down and do nothing.
	So what I would expect is not a kinetic action on China's part.
	I think more likely would be a blockade, and they dare the United States to try to break the blockade.
	That's not too easy when Taiwan's 90 miles off the Chinese coast, and they have the home court advantage.
	As the Chinese keep saying, they've got, what, about 1,400 surface-to-ship missiles, and most experts, certainly the Rand people, The Air Force believed that the Chinese could sink pretty much any American ship within 500 miles or more of their coast.
	So that home court advantage is a massive thing.
	And whether we have the kinetics to face them down in a real crunch is really questionable.
	I wish it wasn't, but unfortunately, you're right about that.
	Now, I think another lever they have is the ports and their ability to slow down, you know, stuff coming out of Taiwan that we desperately need, like semiconductors.
	Is that another area that they could just put the screws to us, you know, and just stop shipping containers and stop, you know, ships from being able to trans-ship through the ports they control, which is most of them?
	Semiconductors as such, the chips are small and light enough that you could move them through air freight.
	You don't need to put them on an ocean carriage.
	But they could interrupt a great deal, and they could also bring Taiwan to its knees.
	Remember, Taiwan has no domestic energy sources, and if the Chinese stop oil tankers from getting there at some fairly short time interval, their economy is going to shut down.
	So there are a lot of things they can do to put pressure on that.
	Chinese are inventive and nasty about things like that, so don't expect me to do their work for them and figure out what they're going to do.
	But I think they will do something that will hurt, and it will bring us that much closer to war, and a war that we have done a very poor job of preparing for.
	And it's not like we didn't just, you know, semi-dodge a bullet with the Ukraine situation.
	It doesn't look like that's going to blow up unless Putin seems to be in a losing position and backed into a corner.
	But do we really need to test the waters on that right now?
	Oh, Jim, as I said, I'm a peace through strength guy.
	The Chinese have hypervelocity glide vehicles.
	Which are completely against which we have no defense at all.
	They have a massive amount of missiles on their coast.
	They have a thousand interceptors.
	They have a home court advantage.
	We've done nothing in terms of ballistic missile defense, nothing to harden our satellites, nothing to try to stop these new weapons, which the Chinese are ahead of us in developing.
	So we're weak.
	And it's yet another pattern.
	of weakness in the part of the Biden administration.
	They pushed Ukraine into a scrap with Putin, which we're not prepared to win.
	One more war that turns into a quagmire from both sides.
	The Russians aren't going to give up.
	And we're stuck with it.
	It's just terrible planning.
	Yeah, they seem to manage to make any of their bad decisions worse.
	We're talking with David Goldman and after the break we'll get a little broader view of how we can compete more effectively against the Chinese.
	This is Jim Hansen doing America First.
	All right, mics are on.
	That's good.
	All right, mics are back on.
	Yeah, I honestly, I don't like to feel weak as an American, you know, and to be telling us not to project strength.
	I just don't feel like they've got the ability to do it competently, and that's what worries me.
	Well, the single biggest area of corruption that we should complain about is the military industrial complex selling us the same garbage Systems for the last 20 or 30 years and letting the Chinese and Russians get ahead of us in hypervelocity weapons and other strategic weapons.
	How did the United States fall behind the Chinese in things like this?
	You really think at this point?
	Because it always, you know, historically to me had seemed like they had, you know, the facade of a lot of weaponry, but it wasn't really, you know, their aircraft carriers weren't fully functional and things like that.
	But you think they've actually gotten to that point now where they're not just competitive, they're better?
	Well, it depends what you're talking about.
	In terms of missiles from their coast with a home court advantage, if you look at the Ukrainians taking the Moskva in the Black Sea, Ukrainians can do that.
	The Chinese can probably sink American ships.
	And we've got the Aegis and other anti-missile defense systems.
	But if you have hundreds of missiles, you can swamp those.
	So I think it's a pretty fair bet.
	God forbid we find out, but it's a pretty fair bet.
	All right.
	Well, let's dig into that a little bit, because I don't think it's something that has been well explored.
	It was shocking to people, I think, how poorly the Russians performed in Ukraine.
	And the question then becomes, are the Chinese a similar kind of paper tiger?
	Or if we poke that one, are we actually going to have the danger of being overwhelmed?
	Well, it depends on what.
	PLA is probably the world's worst land army.
	They're just terrible.
	But from everything I've seen for the Pentagon, I did some work for the Pentagon years ago.
	Andy Marshall, the head of Office of Net Assessment, told me without question They could sink American ships five or six years ago.
	There are studies by Rand and other people working with the Pentagon who insist that the missiles are pretty good.
	Now, we don't know that until we, God forbid, go to war.
	Right.
	But the question is, what's the probability that we're willing to start with that we're going to lose 8,000 sailors with a carrier being hit by a dozen, you know, DF-21s?
	And the prestige of that.
	I think part of the deterrent factor is you can't sink a U.S.
	carrier.
	You know, you shouldn't even be able to consider that.
	And once we lose that, I think that's almost more dangerous.
	You know, I don't want to minimize loss of life, but you know what I mean?
	That to me would be a loss to the ability to have that 90,000 tons of diplomacy, you know, that a USS Ronald Reagan represents.
	It would be catastrophic.
	Uh, the other, uh, hypervelocity glide missiles, uh, that's new.
	We don't know how good they are in combat.
	They've only been tested.
	But they move so fast that by the time an Aegis anti-missile missile picks up the signal, the HGV will have moved so far... Alright, I gotta kill Mike.
	Okay, he's going to kill Mike, so we'll be right back.
	Thank you.
	America first.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Hey folks, Jim Hansen, and we are back doing America First, but the question that we're having to contemplate is, is America First on the global stage anymore?
	We're talking with David Goldman, Spengler columnist for the Asia Times.
	And David, I just want to contemplate the idea, since we have the Pelosi and Biden-inspired You know, kerfuffle with the Chinese now that God, hopefully, you know, we don't have turned into more than a kerfuffle.
	But if it does, are we still preeminent as far as projection of military power?
	In this case, you know, mostly aircraft carriers, fighter jets, missiles.
	It's not gonna be a land war with the Chinese.
	But we're talking, you know, that's always been the inconceivable notion was that someone could sink a U.S.
	aircraft carrier.
	And isn't it horrendously dangerous if the Chinese were somehow to do that in our ability to project force and be a deterrent around the world, peace through strength?
	Jim, that's exactly the problem.
	We are by far the most powerful country in the world in military terms, without any doubt.
	But with a home court advantage off China's coast, China has put massive resources into anti-ship missiles, interceptors, and submarines precisely in order to be able to kill an American fleet in proximity to their coast.
	Their land army is terrible.
	People's Liberation Army is maybe the worst land army in the world.
	But their missile corps is excellent, and the studies from the Air Force and the RAND Corporation and the Office of Net Assessment, which I used to do some work for at Pentagon, say that Those missiles are extremely good.
	Now, you can argue about whether you can track a moving ship 800 miles off the coast, if it's maneuvering, can you really hit it?
	Well, the Ukrainians managed to sink the Russian flagship, the Moskva, 100 kilometers off their coast.
	And if the Ukrainians can do it, the Chinese, who after all did put a space landing craft on the dark side of the moon, probably could be able to do it.
	So the risk of a kinetic engagement against Chinese missiles and the possible loss of a carrier with 8,000 American sailors and all of our prestige, as you say, is not a risk that we want to take.
	The disgrace, in my view, is that we've done hardly anything to defend our military assets against Chinese missiles.
	We've been pretty much using the same systems we've had for years, and we're woefully undefended And that's exactly how that type of a fight would go.
	I mean, the problem we have is we would be as far away from our main bases as we could.
	They would have, as you said, the home court advantage.
	But is it more an idea that They would be emboldened to try to push us in the hopes that we wouldn't retaliate?
	Could they actually consider the idea that the Biden administration would not, you know, would try to stop if they conduct some kind of military propagation, you know, shoot down one aircraft, fire one missile, do something to make a military attack on the U.S.?
	Can they actually think the Biden administration might not retaliate?
	Well, I don't think the Chinese are going to start the kinetics.
	A lot of things can happen by accident.
	The Navy guys will give you all kinds of scenarios, and my favorite one is from Admiral James Stavridis, who's a great sailor and patriot.
	Last year, he published a book called 2034.
	It's a thriller, but it's a very realistic one about how a war could start between the United States and China.
	It starts with a kinetic incident, Chinese sink a carrier, we nuke a Chinese city, They nuke some of our cities.
	We nuke some more.
	Finally, with tens of millions of dead, we've got a stalemate and we negotiate.
	That's the real danger, that we stumble into this without intending to.
	There are many ways that could happen.
	I don't think either Biden or Xi Jinping wants a war or will start one intentionally, but there are plenty of ways it can happen without people wanting it to.
	And we kind of stumbled, we watched a stumbling into a larger conflict in Ukraine.
	You know, I mean, I think a lot of people thought that Putin would just roll into Kiev and conduct some puppet operations, but that's now turned into a grinding thing.
	So is there, if we can avoid that, at least in China, then we're in a better position, right?
	Well, absolutely.
	I think we should, I'm an America firster.
	I think we should be spending hundreds of billions of dollars on Missile defense, directed energy weapons, which can shoot down, at least theoretically, these ultra-fast new missiles, protect the American homeland, protect our military assets.
	But our federal development budget, relative to the size of our economy, is a third of what it was under Ronald Reagan.
	We've let our development capacity for new military technologies atrophy.
	And that's the disgrace.
	And that is something we're going to have to turn around if we're going to remain the preeminent military power and deterrent and keeper of peace around the globe.
	David Goldman, Spengler columnist for the Asia Times and all-around smart guy on Asia.
	you thanks for joining us Mike appreciate appreciate your insights You know, I think I'm still not sleeping good because I don't know why this one bothers me.
	This just seems like an unforced error and kind of an own goal from our team.
	Oh, I agree.
	I mean, I'm very worried about it.
	You know, I told a hedge fund I advise go out and buy put options and shiny stocks.
	Wow.
	That's interesting.
	I wish that wasn't a smart move.
	Well, thanks, David.
	I greatly appreciate your time.
	Jim, I appreciate the air, and it's a pleasure to meet you.
	I hope we have a chance to meet in person soon.
	Let's do that.
	That sounds like a great idea.
	Have a good one.
	Thanks very much.
	Bye now.
	All righty.
	Just like that, we have one guest left today.
	All right.
	We got about 23 minutes left in the poll.
	OK.
	How's it?
	What's it looking?
	You wanna know what's in first?
	Yeah.
	Alien vs. Predator.
	Of course.
	I knew it.
	I'm gonna go.
	We're gonna go all the way with it then.
	There's many ways you can interpret it.
	It's like, potentially, do you side with the alien or the predator, or it could be asking which of the movies do you prefer.
	I don't.
	The nice thing is it's up to me.
	Oh yeah.
	I personally say Predator's gotta be the best of the four.
	If we're counting the first two aliens and the first two predators, I would say Predator, aliens, alien, Predator 2.
	Wow, that was too complicated for me to track, but I'm trying to think my way through it.
	I think Alien is really underrated.
	We just watched it recently because it came out in UHD Atmos, and so I've got Atmos in the house, and it was stunningly good.
	It stood up.
	Not all the effects were great, but most of the effects were great.
	And the plot and the whole thing was just brilliant.
	Now, Aliens is fun.
	It's fun.
	They're two completely different movies.
	Alien is basically a slasher movie with an alien, and Aliens is just an action movie with aliens.
	Whereas Predator and Predator 2 are very much kind of the same movie, just different settings.
	And Predator is, I mean, come on, that's the classic, how many lines, I eat green berets for breakfast, you know?
	Speak around.
	Yeah, you know.
	That's a perfect Arnold 80s movie.
	Yeah, I think Seb agreed that's the best Arnold movie.
	Like, all around quintessential, all the tropes of an old movie.
	Nah, Conan is the best.
	I mean, come on.
	Conan is the greatest casting of any actor in any role in movie history.
	You can't even get close.
	There's not even a second.
	That's three movies I have not seen.
	That's a movie.
	Geoff, there's something wrong with you.
	Why?
	I'm not watching those garbage movies.
	Made in the 80s, the technology's terrible then.
	Wow.
	Some movies in the 80s still hold up to this day, like Escape from New York, The Effects.
	Never saw it, never even heard of it until I met you.
	What are the other ones?
	You're way younger than me, I can't believe you watched all those.
	I mean, I know you don't like Blade Runner, you don't like Star Wars.
	I would hate Star Wars.
	You would hate Star Wars.
	You should actually watch the Jar Jar Binks one.
	Just to hate everything on Earth.
	Liam Neeson, just watching Liam Neeson's soul die in that movie.
	Liam Neeson's soul should die, I don't like him.
	Those prequels were awful.
	I have a soft spot for the prequels in their own way in that like I mean compared to the sequels Hey, I'm gonna open up with that Martian Blackburn.
	Yes, you want to come in with it?
	Yeah, yeah, and then we'll come in with I'll talk we can open the phone line.
	Thank you so much.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	She should go.
	We should never allow the Chinese Communist Party to dictate our foreign policy.
	And we know that they try to use their propaganda arm to spread their influence.
	We have seen this.
	They continue to do it, whether it's great power competition and dealing with the military, dealing with the Belt and Road Initiative.
	They're trying to force other countries to recognize them as the globe's Superpower.
	We cannot give in to them.
	Marsha Blackburn from the great state of Tennessee is absolutely right.
	We cannot let the Chinese dictate U.S.
	foreign policy.
	We've got a caller on line one.
	Robert is going to give us some thoughts on Nancy Pelosi.
	Hello, are you there?
	Yes, we are.
	How you doing today?
	I'm doing great.
	What about you?
	I'm doing alright.
	I'm having a hard time because I'll be 72 in a couple months and I'm on social security.
	I'm happy, but then I'm pissed off because I live in the land of Lincoln, Illinois.
	That's tough.
	Tough?
	Yeah, so what's your thought on Nancy's trip to China?
	Why is Nancy Pelosi Getting free rides all over the place.
	And us veterans get treated like you know what.
	That makes us mad.
	This is one that's old, not real old, but I'm not weak.
	We need to take these people out.
	We need to get him out.
	I couldn't agree more in that we have an election coming up and hopefully if we can't get her out we can at least take the gavel away from her.
	And I think you make a good point.
	One of the things that anybody who's been in the military and deployed overseas hates more than anything is a congressional delegation because often it's just a bunch of congresspeople taking advantage of a free ride to go shopping and buying presents for their spouses.
	I don't think Nancy Pelosi has any business whatsoever heading to Taiwan right now, especially in the way this has been mismanaged by her and the Biden administration.
	Between the two of them, they have made us look like we do not have a clue.
	And it is.
	It's unlikely that the Chinese are crazy enough to launch a missile and or shoot down an American or try to shoot down an American plane or shoot at an aircraft carrier or whatever.
	I don't think they're crazy enough to actually take that step.
	But why are we testing it right now?
	Don't we have enough other problems?
	Hasn't Biden, his crew, Nancy, her crew, haven't they screwed enough of the rest of the world up?
	You know, not just foreign policy.
	Here at home, they have destroyed this country.
	You know, their ideas on COVID, their lockdowns, the vax mandates, kicking people out of the military for not getting vaccinated.
	Every chance they've had, to do something that would make things worse, they've made things worse.
	And I hear a lot of people say they're doing it on purpose.
	And I don't want to think they are, but it's hard to argue that they're not.
	How can you look at what they're doing?
	You either have to assume that they are so grossly incompetent that they're incapable of even executing their own policies.
	But then you hear them, okay, oh, well, gas prices are high, but that's gonna mean that we'll just have to hasten the transition to the wonderful electric vehicles that are powered by unicorn farts and Skittles, you know?
	No, that's not how it works, all right?
	All of those electric vehicles are powered by coal, so they don't even have a coherent mess.
	You know, they don't even have a logical way to move through the mess they're making to the bad ideas they want implemented on the other end.
	You know, because at some level they want state control, they want some flavor of socialism, they want to tell us how to live our lives, they want to, you know, kill our cars, kill the cows, we'll eat bugs, we won't own anything and we'll like it, we'll be subservient.
	You know, that was a Klaus Schwab, the you won't own anything, World Economic Forum guy.
	They want us to be Submissive, subservient, and second-rate to all of the globalist organizations.
	And they want to enforce that in the U.S.
	So at some level, if screwing things up so badly that the only way they can save us is to give American sovereignty away, to a bunch of globalist organizations that do not have our best interests at heart.
	I guess then maybe they're not incompetent.
	Maybe they're just evil and stupid.
	And I'm fine with that.
	That makes as much sense as anything else because I cannot find a way to look at what they're doing and say they're actually honestly trying to make America a better place as it's currently constituted.
	Given what they're doing and how they're doing it.
	There's just no logical way to that.
	It's not like, oh, we want to make things better.
	We want to just get gas prices down.
	We want to make sure babies have formula.
	All of those things lead to a need for state control and, in their case, our state as subservient to the globalist organizations, the UN, World Economic Forum, and all of that.
	And it's not that I am against the US being a member of the global community.
	We are.
	You know, everything, trade, everything we do is related in some way to our place on planet Earth and our status as a nation in a globe of nations.
	But they forget one thing.
	We are the preeminent nation.
	We're number one.
	I'm sorry, the Chinese are not.
	Their economy is not all it's cracked up to be.
	Even though their military is better than it was, we'd still beat them in a fight.
	And all of those things that they want to use to pretend that we are not the exceptional nation among globalists And an exceptional nation founded on the idea of individual liberty that serves as a beacon, a shining city on a hill.
	All of those things, that still exists.
	And I don't find a way, and I don't think anyone in the Democratic Party could articulate a way that their policies, their actions, their goals, their Entire, you know, array of political activities are anything but destructive to the American way of life we here in America first understand.
	And that's why there's two tribes.
	There's our tribe, and there's the woke tribe.
	And we, the based tribe, will prevail.
	That much I can tell you.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We are rocking the week in doing America First Radio and we're going to keep it up because I'm not going to kowtow to any of these people and neither are you.
	We'll be back after the break.
	All right, we should do Ukraine food again, too.
	Food for the poor, Ukraine.
	On that subject, some in the Rumble chat earlier were asking a little bit of a challenge, actually, because you mentioned Russia barely holding on.
	They said, Jim, what are your metrics for your statement that Russia is losing at this point, like territorial hold, force of strength, et cetera, et cetera, because they're trying to claim it's the opposite and that Ukraine is the one that's losing.
	I don't think Russia is losing.
	I think it's a war of attrition.
	And at this point, Russia has used more of their total ability to project force than Ukraine has given that they've got us.
	So as long as we're willing to continue to pour massive amounts of money and military capability into that theater, then the Russians can't maintain that as long as Ukraine can, if we push it.
	So I don't think Russia's losing.
	And I think they're a long way from getting pushed out of Donbass and Crimea.
	That's what they're there for.
	They're there to sit in those two places.
	They want that crescent down that portion of their border.
	Access to the ocean.
	Yeah.
	And I don't think they're giving that up.
	And I think we would be looking at a year plus more if we really think we're going to do that, and I'm not sure Zelinsky is solid.
	So if I gave the impression that I think the Russians are losing, I do not.
	But I think they are in a weaker position if we continue to be the warmongers.
	And I don't think we should.
	I've been calling for peace since February.
	I mean, we could have had it in March.
	In March, they could have just given up that.
	They're not going to get it.
	And what do you want?
	Let's say they push Russia back across the border.
	Then they've got an insurgency there.
	And Ukraine's got an active insurgency at that point, in a place with a destroyed economy.
	Who's that good for?
	And how are they going to maintain it?
	So, I think Russia is going to get what they set out to get, which is that part of the land, and we're stupid to fight it.
	Yep, that crescent.
	I can't wait to see it.
	I can't believe it's been, it was only February when it happened.
	Did you say you're doing the Ukraine thing?
	Yep, I'll do the food thing that's opened up.
	The Help Ukraine banner.
	What's Daniel want to talk about?
	30 seconds.
	The woke BS and what he finds egregious.
	Okay.
	Hey,
	Twitter, suspend this. - Yes.
	Don't give him any ideas.
	Twitter is constantly looking for reasons to suspend me.
	I like being on Twitter because it's a great place to talk smack.
	Listen, starting today, Dr. Gorka is once again asking for your help on behalf of the Christian non-profit relief organization Food for the Poor.
	There's a banner up right now at SebGorka.com.
	With inflation, gas prices, and primary elections commanding so many headlines this month, it would be easy to forget that the war in Ukraine is still raging.
	That means hundreds of thousands of children and families remain displaced.
	They may not have been able to return home, and these refugees remain in desperate need of food and water.
	Listen to just one woman who is in desperate need of support after being displaced by the war.
	There is no gas, no electricity, no heating, no cell phone service.
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	And already they've either delivered or have en route over 11 million meals for starving children and families in Ukraine.
	But that still leaves another 5 million meals they need to deliver to children who desperately need food in war-torn Ukraine.
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	And thank you.
	Now I was talking in the break as we listened to the folks in the rumble chat.
	I think at this point the time for the war in Ukraine to end has been long past, is unfortunately not going to turn out the way the Ukrainians would like, but I don't think the alternative Of a never ending land war in Europe to take back border sections of that country that are largely Russian speaking is a smart move.
	And even if somehow they push the Russians back across the border.
	Then you're going to have nothing but a hellish insurgency as they continue to send little green men back across the border and destabilize it and eventually go back to get it again.
	It's a done deed, in my mind.
	It is.
	I wish it was different.
	I wish Putin wasn't a tyrant.
	He is.
	And the sooner we accept the fact that he showed he's not the giant bear who can take back all of Europe and reclaim the Soviet Union, that's a good thing.
	But it's not going to turn out that he gets nothing for this adventure in Ukraine.
	I think it's time to make peace based on those terms.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We'll be back after the news at the top of the hour, and we will jump into the final hour of today's America First Radio.
	We'll be back after the news at the top of the hour.
	We have put together, I think, We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	Let me say it again.
	The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
	Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
	Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
	I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
	I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
	If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
	Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
	We have been working on something big.
	Show me the money.
	Can we meet?
	I've been working with Greg Phillips.
	He has a deep background in election intelligence.
	True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
	No one has more data than we do.
	We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
	But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
	What is a mule?
	This is not grandma out walking her dog.
	Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
	They are interested in one thing, that's money.
	This is organized crime.
	In no way, in no time, is that legal.
	This is organized crime.
	Do you have video evidence?
	Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
	What you're about to see is disturbing.
	So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
	Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
	One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
	I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
	Because they work like that.
	This is jaw-dropping.
	What you showed is frightening.
	It's just sickening to me.
	Now we come to the most important question of all.
	Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
	It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
	They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
	That's provable.
	And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
	Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
	We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
	Two Thousand Mules.
	In select theaters May 2nd and 4th.
	Virtual premiere, May 7th. Stream, May 8th at Salem Now or Locals.
	Stream,
	May May 8th. Stream,
	May 8th. Stream,
	May 8th. Stream, May 8th. Stream, May 8th. Stream, May 8th. Stream, May 8th. Stream, May 8th. Stream, May 8th.
	So how long is the second segment?
	The second segment is nine minutes.
	And the first segment's how long?
	Eleven.
	Okay, alright, well... I guess the second segment I gotta do my Alien vs. Predator.
	Yep.
	That's right, because she's C and D, that's right, the third and fourth segments.
	All right.
	Yep.
	It's if the poll is over and yeah, alien versus predator is the winner.
	You bastards.
	It wouldn't be any fun if it wasn't something ridiculous, Right, yeah.
	Talk about the economy, Jim.
	Tell us about inflation.
	There's no challenge in that.
	Seb used to do with Jim Carrafano on Fridays, they would talk about old movies, like old school war movies and stuff like that.
	They used to do that.
	That's a fun thing.
	I think I'm going to take this collar on woke just to have something to riff on.
	Because I'm not done with the wokesters.
	This jacket is ridiculous, man.
	Look how many buttons it's got.
	See that?
	That's buttons all the way up.
	I feel like you can button through that.
	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen. - Yeah.
	Hey folks, I am Jim Hansen, and America First Radio today is, as always, part of counter-wokeness and anti-wokeness.
	And I had opened up the phone lines previously to anybody who had a beef about wokeness, and I want to hear, Daniel from Texas, what is your least favorite or most aggravating part of wokeness?
	Hey Jim, thanks for taking my call.
	The most egregious thing I find just being a normal citizen here is the woke commercials that are showing now on TV channels.
	I pretty much leave my TV off and listen to the radio because of them.
	I don't care what people do in their own homes and on their own time.
	You know, that's part of being American.
	But when you start putting it into my home, then that's a different situation.
	And, you know, I know a lot of people don't want to talk about boycotting certain stores or certain products, but I won't have anything to do with them.
	I don't want to see two guys kissing on a commercial.
	I'm sorry.
	That's just not for me.
	Real quick, I would like to go ahead and also You know, since I can't define what a woman is, they need to take that, uh, what's-your-sex off of job applications, because that no longer counts.
	You know, they need to repeal all those equal amendment things that they put into the Constitution, because if I wear a t-shirt that says, I am woman, hear me roar, from that point on, they're discriminating against me.
	And one final little quick thing.
	I think the UN should base their operations in a country like, say, Serbia or Kuwait or Ukraine, you know.
	I bet you the first time that they have to dodge a missile to get to work, They might face things a little bit differently.
	Let's get them out of the U.S.
	Let's go put them where they need to be.
	You know, first of all, I want to compliment you on your impressive agenda.
	I didn't disagree with a thing you had to say and I think it was an indicator of the fact that we have an engaged audience and we really have a collective agenda now.
	You know, there was a long time where we kind of, on the right, thought that we had the Constitution, you know, America was a long-established country, we had norms, things were going great, and we didn't have to worry about the weirdos and, you know, the freaks and the occasional craziness that they would do because, you know, come on, Americans have common sense.
	We're not going to let that stuff infect us and destroy the country.
	And we were wrong.
	I mean, I think we can all at this point admit that they got the best of us.
	We were busy living our lives.
	We were working.
	We were raising families.
	We were taking the kids to soccer practice.
	We were living normal American lives, assuming that there was no way The craziness that we occasionally saw little flashes of could bubble through to the point that it has now where, to be perfectly honest, our culture is run by the freaks.
	It is not run by even the normal-ish people on the left.
	There are people on the left who I don't have any problems with.
	I can have a neighborhood barbecue with them.
	I'm related to some of them.
	They're decent people.
	But what happened was the woke agenda grew out of—the progression was, go back to the 50s, 60s, 70s, and you're talking about Democrats.
	Then Democrats became liberals.
	Then liberals became progressives.
	And now progressives have become woke.
	And who knows if they'll change it again.
	But each one of those steps was incrementally more leftist.
	It was more extreme.
	It was more on that path, that slippery slope to socialism.
	And that's what they want.
	You know, there's no reason.
	And we can even go farther and say most of them wouldn't even be that sad if it was communism.
	You know, they truly believe that in our current situation, too many people don't get enough.
	They want that mythical concept of equity.
	And the problem with equity is people aren't equitable.
	Alright?
	People exist on a bell curve.
	They do not go where everyone puts the same effort out because some people are lazy, some people are shiftless.
	You know, some people just don't care.
	They don't go on an equal amount of talent.
	Some people have more talent, have more skills, are smarter.
	And in the end, there are disparate outcomes in every way, shape, or form.
	But that's not what they want.
	They want to fix that.
	The most fundamental thing about humanity, that we're different and that there will be different outcomes, they have the audacity to think they can socially engineer things so that from each, according to their ability, Two each, according to their needs, actually works.
	And guess what?
	That is so fundamentally flawed an idea that every socialist who has ever tried it has failed miserably because humans are flawed creatures.
	We're not good enough.
	to do that.
	You know, in some perfect world you could say that maybe there were humans who were unselfish enough and willing to sacrifice and all will pull for the cause and none will do less but take more.
	But those humans have not been born yet.
	And they're certainly not the enlightened solons of the left who want to tell all the rest of us how to live.
	Because they're the biggest hypocrites at all.
	Oh, they want us to sacrifice for their Green New Energy deal garbage while they fly around on jets and Leonardo Caprio is the UN climate guy on his 200-foot yacht.
	You know, we can't expect people like that to present a coherent worldview for themselves, but they think they can present one they will impose on us.
	And I'm sorry, that's not going to fly.
	Now, fortunately, we still live in America.
	Fortunately, we have an awful lot of freedoms.
	And we have a federal constitutional republic as opposed to a pure democracy.
	Now, I'm not even giving up the idea that given the way, you know, Latinos, Hispanics, Latinxs, are moving towards us because they've figured out that the Democrats can't deliver for them.
	I'm not saying we can't have an actual majority in this country because we can show that our ideas work and they've shown that their ideas don't.
	But in the meantime, we have to gather together in our tribes, in our Floridas, in our Tennessees, in our Texases, and go ahead and show everybody this is what life is like when you don't have lockdowns, when your kids don't wear masks at schools, when they go to school instead of staying home and being taught via Zoom, which doesn't work.
	All of those things, all of the ideas, these brilliant cunning plans the left wants to impose on us, they don't work.
	And that's what we've seen.
	That's the great advantage of the suffering we're currently undergoing, is it is just pure object lessons in why socialism, Wokeism, progressivism, liberalism all fail.
	They simply don't work.
	They're emotionally based, not pragmatically, rationally, fact-based.
	We on the right are often called heartless because we want to make policies not based on how they make people feel, but on whether or not they actually work or not.
	Whereas on the left, they make policies based on how it makes them feel.
	And I'm sorry, that just doesn't work.
	And that's, again, that's the advantage we have.
	They've been doing that.
	They've been telling everybody, well, you have to do this or we'll shun you, you know, or you're evil.
	You're a knuckle-dragging right-wing troglodyte who hates brown people and is trans, homophobic, misogynistic.
	But the bottom line is, we do more things that benefit Americans of all flavors.
	every single flavor of their fruity flag which if that's not the most perfect example of of what is wrong with the left the trans additional i don't even know what they call their flag now but you know the one the one that's got the chocolate on it it had the rainbow and then they added the the little Delta thing and then they've got the chocolate thing running through it and it's just it's a freaking mess!
	You can't even decipher what it is and if anything perfectly represents the incoherent mess of policies that is wokeism.
	It's that flag and I greatly appreciate the fact that they decided to bless us with something that atrocious.
	We're coming up.
	I offered in the first hour the rumble chat to come up with some ideas for an unscripted rant that I'm not prepared to give.
	Not that I'm prepared for any of these.
	And then we put that into a Twitter poll.
	The poll is over and next segment you will be blessed with me expounding on a topic I had no idea I was going to talk about when I came in here today.
	And you'll find out what that is when we continue with the Monday America First Radio with Jim Hansen sitting in for Dr. G riffing like a bebop jazz musician.
	Mic's on.
	Alright.
	Better pull up some Predator quotes.
	There's so many of them.
	I know.
	That was one of the greatest ones.
	I mean, it had Jesse the body.
	Jesse Ventura.
	I ain't got time to bleed.
	Exactly!
	Do it to me now!
	I am here!
	Kill me now!
	And of course, one of the most iconic evil laughs of all time.
	Yeah, I mean that... Alright, there we go.
	Anytime!
	That movie is so good!
	I think it's like Seb said, it's like, you're part typical Arnold action flick where they blow up the gorilla base, it's part slasher-stalker movie, and then it's just a one-on-one fight at the end.
	Like, it's got a little bit of pretty much everything you could want from the 80s.
	I'm with ya.
	I just, you're not gonna get me off Conan.
	Sure.
	I still think it's Terminator 2, if you ask me, the best Arnold movie.
	And that's not, like, best movie because of Arnold, it's just the best overall finest piece of quality filmmaking that happens to have Arnold in it.
	Get to the chopper.
	That's in my top ten.
	I mean, Terminator 2 is just... Oh, that's right.
	Get to the choppers from Predator.
	Ah, so good.
	Oh, so you hadn't seen the first one.
	I saw the first one later.
	Oh, interesting.
	A five, six-year-old watching Terminator 2.
	Nice.
	You have good parents.
	You have a guy here saying that the first movie he saw from Hollywood was Terminator 2 as a kid.
	Wow.
	Well, and that's another one, too.
	And again, like the first two Alien movies and first two Predator movies, all those special effects still hold up so well to this day.
	Yeah.
	It's just incredible.
	No CGI, nothing.
	They were at the height of their skills in real-world special effects at that point in time.
	Yeah.
	The master, Stan Winston, Worked on the Predator.
	The Monster Man.
	Jeff's gonna love this segment.
	Movie talk.
	It's a spoiler alert!
	Only the Rumble Chat can hear it.
	When were those?
	Were they... I might be able to watch those.
	Were they after 82?
	Aliens... Aliens was 86, I believe.
	So... Yeah, that qualifies.
	I think the first Alien was 79.
	And then... Well, Predator was 87.
	And then Predator 2 was 1990, I think.
	I wouldn't... I hope you're looking that up.
	I wouldn't have been able to...
	I, I know that off the top of my head.
	I cannot believe how much he knows about movies like that type of stuff.
	He's, he's a little scary.
	He's got that savant thing.
	He knows the directors, everything.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I know Terminator 2 was the highest grossing movie of 1991.
	No, there's no reason to know that.
	None of that.
	That's only in a break.
	It's in my top 10.
	I, I like to know like as much about that movie as possible.
	Cause it's just such a good movie.
	No, no, no, no.
	We're still in the commercial break.
	See?
	Remember we got to...
	Da-da-da!
	God, it's so good.
	You can take a tracking shot if you want, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	The tracking shot thing reminds me of the trolley on Mr. Roger for some reason.
	It's on the little stands and the thing goes... Actually, you should get a little train thing to put on the top of it.
	All right, kill mics.
	All right, kill kill mics.
	All right, kill mics.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	It is Jim Hansen, and I decided to take a little risk and have a little fun and get some audience participation because this is not my show.
	It's Seb's show, and it's certainly not just his show.
	It's got all of you in the audience.
	So I asked at the beginning of the show for the Rumble Chat folks, folks watching the live stream who are a lively bunch, to come up with some ideas for a topic for a rant that I have no idea what it was going to be.
	And so we took the most interesting-ish three of those and then tweeted out during the second hour on Twitter a poll to see, of those three, which one would be the one that during this hour I would give at least a five-minute exposition unplanned and unprepared for.
	But like I said, that's not really much of a stretch.
	I don't prepare.
	Seb probably does show prep.
	I don't.
	But the three choices were Best Allies in Asia, which came in third.
	Second choice was Likeliest Dem 2024 Ticket, and that's Newsome Booty Gig, just so you know.
	I'm just gonna, that's simple.
	We're done with that one.
	But the winner was the vitally important topic, Alien vs. Predator.
	Now, the nice thing about this is because I have the microphone, I get to decide what that means.
	So are we talking about the movies?
	Are we talking, as in which one's better?
	Are we talking about who would win in a fight alien versus predator?
	Or, and Eric's going to tell me in my ear who came up with the great idea in the uh in the rumble chat for this or do we decide that alien versus predator is how you get a green card if you are an illegal alien in this country and you kill a sexual predator should that get you a green card if you kill a child molester and i gotta say that's a policy i could back
	So I think whoever that was will give credit when I get a chance.
	Oh, that was Buck Fyden.
	True to the name with the controversial take.
	I think that's beautiful.
	That's the kind of creativity that makes America great.
	So I'm going to expound a little bit.
	I like that starting point because that starts us with something controversial and involves, you know, vigilante action and all the things we all love because those make great movies.
	But I want to talk about the movies.
	I recently watched Alien, the first one, Sigourney Weaver, you know, the little mini alien busting out of the chest, Jonesy the cat, all of that.
	Because I managed to finally, over my years of buying enough speakers, I got enough speakers in my listening room now that I've got Dolby Atmos sound.
	And my wife and I watched the first alien in 4k UHD Dolby Atmos and they did a magnificent job with the sound.
	The picture was good.
	Picture was great.
	But the sound, if you think about it, picture it in the spaceship, you know, with all the things going on, you're always trying to figure out where, where is the alien going to come from?
	where this extensor jaw going to come flying from, all the dripping water, all the clanks.
	They did just a magnificent job because if you think about it, those weren't digital effects back then.
	That's all fully real effects.
	So they've got someone clanking a pipe, you know, and they've got dripping water and all those things.
	And they had all those discrete elements to put into the Atmos mix.
	And so they were overhead and they were behind you and things would skitter past you over your head.
	It was just phenomenal.
	And I got to say the storyline in Alien and the execution of that as a film was brilliant.
	It was just a great story.
	You know, old school horror movie done in a, you know, it's kind of the Cowboys and Aliens concept where you're doing that in a in a spaceship as opposed to elsewhere.
	But that added so much.
	And then you had all of the H.R.
	Giger and you old school comic book type nerds just all, you know, nodded your heads.
	H.R.
	Giger did such magnificent designs for the Alien and for the sets and all the rest of the stuff that that was just brilliant.
	So Alien was a world-class film.
	Stands up to this day.
	Watched it a month ago.
	And if it came out today, I would go watch it in the theater.
	No question about it.
	But if you want to talk about a perfect period piece for the 80s when it came out, Arnold, Jesse the body, all those guys in Predator was brilliant.
	And come on, if you want all the tacky kitschy stick around, you know, I don't have time to bleed.
	This stuff will make your dog nab sexual tyrant sores just like me.
	There were so many great lines in that movie.
	You know, you got Jesse the body walking around carrying a minigun for God's sakes.
	You know, everything about that movie was absurd, over-the-top, and just perfectly evocative.
	I was a kid of the 80s.
	I mean, I was in my 20s then.
	That was the time.
	I was full of everything.
	And the 80s were excess.
	It was all the crazed music.
	Everyone still partied like rock stars back in the day.
	It was a time for Complete and utter overkill.
	And Predator was complete and utter overkill.
	I, you know, and they didn't even kill it.
	You know, that's the best part is the Predator won.
	And then they get to go on and have Predator 2 and then eventually you end up with Alien versus Predator.
	So I think if you look at the two, they are completely different concepts.
	You know, the, okay, yeah, they both had nearly indestructible critters, but Ripley kind of killed the first one and then they had to go back for the Queen.
	In Predator, they didn't manage that.
	So, which one was a better movie?
	I think, and I guess I have to weigh in on this, I'm gonna go with Alien.
	And I know that's hard because everything about Predator makes me want to call that the number one perfect 80s movie, 80s action movie.
	And it might be the perfect 80s action movie.
	But Alien was just a higher level of filmmaking and film, and I think I'm going to give it to it for that.
	And I think we were talking, Seb says The Predator is his favorite Arnold movie, and I can understand that.
	You know, it's a role Arnold was born to play.
	But there is another role Arnold was born to play that he played and no one else could have, and it was the most perfect example of the meeting of a man, a manly, giant, bodybuilding Austrian oak of a man.
	and a movie and that's Conan the Barbarian.
	No one else could have played that and you want to talk about another one that's got the perfect writing you know and Amanda Milius good friend that's her dad's movie you know that's got the all the great lines you know what what is best in life Conan you know it's got so many pithy lines but what it's got more than anything else it's got a guy who's believable
	Wearing that garb, being Conan the Cimmerian, running around with a giant sword, chopping heads, killing snakes, saving scantily clad maidens, drinking, feasting, and eating.
	So Predator may be the perfect 80s action movie.
	And I can go with Seb on that, but the best Arnold movie and the most perfect casting ever.
	There's not even a second place.
	That is Conan the Barbarian.
	All right, this is Jim Hansen.
	When we get back after the break, we will have Miranda Devine, author of The Laptop from Hell, and we're going to dig into next steps and how we make the Biden crime family pay For what they've done and everyone who censored and did disinformation.
	We're going to shut them all down.
	Join us after the break.
	And.
	Okay, I think the mics are back up.
	There we go.
	All right.
	Nicely done.
	That was fun.
	That was great.
	You know, it was, I thought about it last night.
	I'm like, because I always want, like I said, I'm always a fan of the fans, you know, the people, because it's a, it's an interactive experience.
	Like, what other radio show has that, like, you can interact and help pick the topic?
	You know, like, I don't think Rush even did something.
	I mean, of course, we always have callers calling in.
	Like, that's a thing.
	Which is an element of that, but this was just a goofier way to do it.
	Yeah, that was great.
	Great idea.
	Yeah, actually, it's similar.
	I bet somebody one time that I could write a thousand words in 15 minutes or 20 minutes on any topic.
	Anything.
	Yeah, and I did it.
	And it was, oh, what was it?
	Why cloning was immoral.
	Ooh, that's getting some serious religious philosophy.
	Yeah, and that made it easy.
	Yeah, I mean, there were so many places you could go with that.
	I was just like, oh, that's easy.
	Right down the line.
	But, yeah, it's one of those things.
	If you're only, if you're writing an op-ed style piece, you're not going more than surface deep.
	You know, so there's always a high-level take on anything that I feel comfortable.
	Like, you know, give me a topic, I'll give you a high-level take and a certain amount of time on it.
	Alright, let me make sure I got Miranda's stuff.
	Yep, Miranda's new.
	She's on the phone.
	All right, two minutes, and the mics are live.
	Thank you.
	Hang on, he's going to bring her up in just a moment.
	I think NG's doing pretty good with the sound.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Minute 45.
	Hey Miranda, can you hear me?
	Hello, hello, can you hear me?
	Yes, I can.
	How you doing?
	Been a long time since we talked.
	Couple hours, huh?
	How's Bannon doing?
	Oh, he just went on his show.
	Good.
	He's full of beans.
	You know, for him, I think the whole idea of getting thrown in the DC Gulag is exactly what he wants.
	Because it's a chance to be a martyr.
	I think he'll do his show from there.
	I think it's just a 100% chance to just be Bannon the abused.
	Yeah, yeah, maybe.
	I don't know, the DC gulag sounds like it's a pretty awful place.
	I feel very sorry for the January 16th tiddling.
	I know, I wish that wasn't true, but maybe get Bannon in and he'll lead an Escape from New York breakout.
	Now that would be good.
	That's the movie we need!
	That would be a story, exactly.
	How good would that be?
	Such a good movie.
	Alright, I'll send him a note.
	My suggestion.
	We could be his outside team, because he's got to have somebody come pick him up, and I've actually got a sprinter van that we use for stuff like that.
	Hey, you know, the FBI is probably listening to our phone call, so...
	All right, call on mics.
	Thank you.
	America first.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent!
	I don't know how you say not America first, but people do it.
	Well, listen, we have gotten to the part of this show I was waiting for because I've told you guys before I'm working on an AI project to find out who was behind the censorship and disinformation of the Hunter Biden laptop story.
	And guess what?
	We have now on the show the woman who wrote the definitive tale of this laptop from hell, Miranda Devine.
	Good to be with you.
	Hey, great to be with you too, Jim.
	I love your project, the sound of your project.
	Very important.
	Well, it's one of the most horrendous things I think has been done as far as interfering in an election in this country.
	And I want to expose it, and I think everyone needs it exposed.
	But you did a lot of the hard work in digging into the story as a whole.
	And it seems to be, you know, there's a lot there.
	And I think there was always evidence of Biden family corruption.
	Given that we've now got some whistleblowers talking about what's going on in the FBI, do you think there will be any adverse action for anybody named Biden?
	Well, look, I think that's all up in the air.
	Certainly, you know, if, as polls show, the Republicans take back at least the House, if not the Senate, I think next year they are all systems go.
	They are locked and loaded.
	They're doing a lot of work now, preliminary work, to get on top of all the issues.
	And the whistleblowers are starting to knock on their doors.
	That's what's really the latest kind of turn in this story, which has had a lot of twists and turns since we first started working on it back in late 2020, just before the election.
	So I think that's good news, and I think it really will depend on Patriot, particularly within the intelligence community and particularly the FBI, because What Senator Chuck Grassley has already managed to uncover, thanks to these whistleblowers, is what we were suspecting.
	But he's named names of an FBI agent and analyst, Tim Tebolt and Brian Orton, who he says basically buried the Hunter Biden laptop information, or he didn't say laptop Hunter Biden derogatory information, but that was October 2020.
	That was it.
	Also in August 2020, when Chuck Graslie and Senator Ron Johnson, two Republicans, of course, were investigating, they did a fantastic report in September of 2020 into Hunter Biden corruption and Burisma, that Ukrainian energy company.
	And they also uncovered Quite a bit of financial shenanigans and basically the money trail via Treasury Department reports from China, Russia, Kazakhstan and other places into the coffers of the Biden family and their associates in America.
	So I think that information, they were getting very close to something that somebody in power didn't want them to have.
	And therefore, we had the FBI basically stage a phony FBI sort of defensive briefing for them.
	Now, whether the FBI, these agents were tricked by the Democrats, by Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff and co, who were at that stage screaming Russian disinformation and trying to disrupt the work that Johnson and Grasley were doing.
	Either way, they were given a defensive briefing and Ron Johnson knew immediately that that briefing started and his staff knew that this was bogus, that the person that they were defensively briefing again wasn't even a part of their investigation.
	And they said to the FBI guys, if this leaks, we will know that something dirty is up.
	And sure enough, next day, it's in the papers.
	So that was an attempt to dirty up Um, their inquiry into Hunter Biden, and that was with the assistance of the FBI.
	And then we find out that they didn't even just do that, but they're also burying information, you know, about the laptop, presumably information from Tony Bobulinski, because he went to the FBI, had hours of being interviewed in October of 2020, and handed over all his documents, all the contents of his devices,
	And a lot of that material just overlaps and corroborates and duplicates a lot that's on the laptop that's incriminating, particularly about China.
	So why they didn't do anything about those two bombshell pieces of information is a really open question.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's not a complicated question, but it does remain open.
	And after the break, we're going to dig into the reasons that they were hiding the Biden family corruption, which I think are a little obvious, but also what lengths they went to to hide the story so that the corruption wouldn't sink Biden's campaign.
	We're talking with Miranda Devine.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio back after the break.
	I hear Eric.
	Yep.
	Just a moment, I think we'll have her up in just a bit.
	That sounds like Miranda Coffin.
	Sorry.
	We're in the break, you can do whatever you want.
	But it is, just a reminder, it's always live in the Rumble chat and they love to listen.
	Yeah, all the secret things like drinking a swig of water after coughing.
	All that stuff, and I'm eating Skittles.
	Hey, I'm just looking at the website with your book on it.
	I've heard of this.
	Yeah, it looks really good.
	Winning the Second Civil War without firing a shot.
	I figured that was provocative enough, right?
	Yeah.
	Gotta rile them up a little bit.
	Yeah.
	That's fun.
	I think it's it's easy to talk about stuff like the militia and other things that are legitimate parts of the Constitution that people don't like to remember.
	You know, it's it's entertaining.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So this comes out.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah.
	No.
	My book was last year.
	So.
	Right.
	OK.
	Yeah.
	I'm just looking at this.
	May 2021.
	Yeah.
	OK.
	No, it's just telling me I can get it delivered on Wednesday.
	I'm going to get it on Kindle.
	I think we talked before, but I think with your book as kind of that definitive look at that concept, I can't wait now as I think dominoes are starting to fall.
	I think the FBI whistleblower is on top of the rest of it, and I don't see how they can avoid some sort of repercussion.
	It's just a question of wit, you know, what they do.
	I think they're gonna go with IRS.
	I think they'll give Hunter some kind of IRS charge.
	Yeah.
	You know, and then either suspend his sentence or let him serve six months.
	Yeah, what I've heard is suspended sentence and a big fine.
	Yeah, well, he already got that one guy, his junkie buddy out in California to pay his taxes off.
	Yeah, that's a very interesting relationship there.
	I'm not really...
	Yeah, well, I mean, at some level, you can look at it as the guy's a rich, you know, Hollywood junkie.
	He met Hunter, who's a not rich anymore.
	Is he a junkie?
	Oh, yeah, the other guy was, yeah, the other guy was a junkie, too.
	He was, I mean, he's very rich, and he's done a bunch of big shows.
	You know, he's a big Hollywood guy, and I don't remember the shows, but they're significant.
	And he happened to be in, I think, in rehab, or he lives a block from where Hunter was in rehab.
	And so they met at that point in time, and he's like, well, I got enough money to pay you off if I own your story.
	Right.
	And I think that's where they are.
	Really is borderline incestuous at that point.
	And it's kind of twisted.
	But, hey, I mean, it wouldn't be Hollywood and the left if it wasn't incestuous and gay orgies and everything else, right?
	That joke is never gonna get old.
	No, the gay orgies.
	Poor Ned Ryan.
	I told him, his Google search is ruined forever because gay orgies will be his top search for the rest of his life.
	Alright.
	Alright, we got 30.
	Killing mics. Killing mics.
	Killing mics.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	America first for sure with some good cultural appropriation.
	Rage against the machine bumper music.
	Gotta love that.
	We're back talking to Miranda Devine, author of Laptop from Hell, which is now going to become a bigger and bigger problem.
	For Joe Biden and for the left overall, because not just the problem they have with the Biden family business of selling out America so that Hunter can buy crack and hookers, but the problem they have now, Miranda, I think, is this is indicative of what the left has as a mode of operation to go ahead and influence a U.S.
	election.
	Because that information was coming out.
	You were working on it.
	Obviously, you mentioned the Chuck Grassley and Senator Johnson report.
	But all of that got stifled before the election.
	They tried to make sure that the American people wouldn't know just how bad Joe and Hunter and his brother and the rest of them were.
	And I think that is going to backfire for them almost as much as the corruption, because people understand corruption's a normal part of business, and okay, you know, you're riding your dad's coattails.
	But when all of that got shut down and it influenced the US election, that's a different thing.
	Yes, and look, I mean, I don't think you can just say, oh, corruption's nothing and people don't care about it.
	I think they care deeply, but they've just become so Um, battered and bruised and cynical and, uh, you know, resigned to the fact that it's endemic in Washington.
	But, um, I don't think that means that any of us should give up.
	Um, it's a big problem and, but it's a really corrosive problem.
	And, uh, you know, it's, it's across the Western world, but it's, I think particularly bad in Washington and it's on both sides.
	So, um, I think that there's no point just sitting back and resigning yourself to it.
	You have to fight against it and remember how bad it is.
	and how destructive it is to our national security, apart from, you know, trust in institutions, et cetera.
	But, yeah, the media, the interference, the suppression of the story, the blackout by the media, the intervention by the intelligence services, by also former intelligence operatives like John Brennan, James Clapper, Leon Panetta, Michael by also former intelligence operatives like John Brennan, James Clapper, Leon Panetta, Michael Hayden, who wrote that letter with, you know, there were 51 in total former intelligence officials, some of them very high ranking, wrote that letter
	some of them very high ranking, wrote that letter that Joe Biden used very successfully to get himself off the hook.
	When our story came out, pretending that it was Russian disinformation or, as they said in their letter, information.
	But they, obviously, they want us to read that as Russian disinformation.
	That was how the letter was portrayed in the media, as they knew it would be.
	And their whole purpose for writing that letter was to get Joe Biden off the hook.
	The whole purpose of the FBI, as Chuck Graslie's whistleblowers are saying, was to suppress this story that was damaging to the candidate who was running against Donald Trump.
	And, you know, it was because basically the establishment, the swamp, whatever you call them, were determined that Donald Trump would not serve another term.
	So they didn't care.
	Joe Biden was going to win by hook or by crook.
	Yeah, and they abused their power, the ones who were in government, obviously, and now at least we're seeing examples of malfeasance and potential criminal activity by FBI agents to do that.
	And then if you look at the disinformation campaign that was run against the American public by the media, by the tech tyrants who run the social media companies, and by Democrat operatives in collaboration, we believe, and I think our AI project is going to show some places where there was direct coordination.
	They were working together to influence the course of a U.S.
	election by conducting disinformation operations against the American people.
	And that's almost unprecedented.
	You know, that large a conspiracy to do that is, I'm unable to find another example of.
	And we hope to be able to help the Grassley's and the Senator Johnson's and the other folks who will be holding hearings with that.
	And I'm trying to enlist you in that cause as well.
	So hopefully all your knowledge can be brought to bear on that as well.
	Yeah, look, Jim, you're right.
	You can't overstate how important it was, the suppression of this story, the interference, really election interference there, and people have to be brought to account.
	We know from polls that were taken after the election that something like 17% of Biden voters in seven swing states would have switched their votes, would have not voted for Biden if they'd known about the scandal of the laptop, and that would have been enough to swing the election.
	And, you know, now that the story, what, 19 months later, the New York Times and the Washington Post and so on acknowledged that, you know, our story was correct and that the laptop is real and they've authenticated a lot of the emails on it. our story was correct and that the laptop is real
	Once they did that, they were obviously trying to get out in front of the Delaware Grand jury, which at some point has to come to a conclusion, and either indict Hunter or have some sort of cozy plea deal with him.
	But in that now, we're talking about more Americans know that the Hunter Biden laptop story is real, is important.
	And, you know, polls are just showing how bad it is for Joe Biden that this story lingers on.
	And it's inexplicable why the White House keeps on stonewalling.
	You know, we have our reporter, Stephen Nelson, who's terrific.
	We have a couple of other reporters who are in that, you know, in the White House press corps.
	Who are occasionally allowed to ask questions.
	And whenever they ask about this, they just get the same old story.
	Yes, Joe Biden stands by his comment that he knew nothing about his son Hunter's overseas business dealings.
	It is impossible to maintain that fiction and yet they still try it.
	Well, I think they're going to find that not just increasingly difficult, but impossible, because too much information is coming out and the whistleblowers are going to blow the lid off it.
	And I think come this fall and going forward, it's going to stop being a liability and it's going to be a death sentence for Joe Biden's presidency.
	Miranda Devine, tremendous work to actually put together the definitive tome on this, Laptop from Hell.
	And if you haven't read it, do, because it's got everything you need to know.
	And hopefully, Miranda, we'll be hearing more and new things out of the whistleblower hearings and the rest of it.
	But thanks so much for joining us.
	Thanks so much.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're going to be back with the final segment after the break and wrap up the Monday version of America First Radio.
	Okay, and Mike's back up.
	Is she still on the line?
	I think she hung up.
	No, she's off.
	Okay, all right.
	It's just us then.
	Here we go.
	It's the final segment.
	Right, it took me a moment to remember this is a C&D.
	Jim, you got Ukraine and you got to do that 15, the other 15 second Uncle Tom.
	Oh, the long Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I guess we'll be, I don't have to worry about what I'm talking about then.
	Ah, well, it happens as such sometimes.
	So that's the Ukraine, where did I, did I lose that?
	Oh, here it is.
	Alright, now, when he goes in the Ukraine, you're gonna have, I'll bring it up for you, but, you're at the space bar to play that.
	Alright.
	That's a doll.
	Everything, everything here is doll.
	One.
	And G looks really calm for a guy who's, who's live and on the spot now, man.
	You on meds or something, man?
	I would be freaking out a lot more.
	They would give it to rock stars when they need to perform on stage.
	Is that what it is?
	There was always speed to get them woken up because they were drunk or something.
	Yeah, like Roger Waters.
	Keith Moon was famous for, he had, him and John Bonham, those drummers were the worst.
	I was talking to my wife last night, because she was never a party animal or anything like that.
	Me, if it was there to be done, I did it.
	And I grew up in those times.
	Come on, man.
	Why not?
	When in Rome.
	I told her when you would go to a concert, you always had to wonder.
	Go to a Van Halen concert.
	Are they going to be too drunk to perform?
	Because if they'd be out there, they'd be swigging from a half gallon of Jack Daniels on stage.
	Oh yeah.
	Okay, is he going to be able to sing?
	Does he remember the words this concert?
	Go to a Mick Jagger concert and wonder if you're going to get beat up by the Hells Angels.
	I saw a great meme, and it was the Sistine Chapel one or whatever, where God's pointing down.
	Maybe not that one, but the one where God's pointing down and says, Adam, this is your woman and, you know, treat her well and do this.
	And Adam points down and there's a guy in the corner and he says, who's that?
	And God says, that's Keith Richards.
	He was here when I got here.
	So much.
	That is such a great piece of classic art with meme potential.
	Unlimited.
	It's just so great.
	All righty, 30 seconds to the final segment.
	Here we go, gentlemen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
	Welcome back.
	to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
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	And thank you.
	Thank you for putting up with me sitting in Seb's chair.
	And again, I'm sitting on a booster because I have to do that to be able to get above the desk because he's such a giant.
	But I also enjoyed the fact you indulged me in, not that you had a choice, but indulged me in playing the What's Jim Gonna Rant About in the Third Hour game.
	So thanks to the Rumble Chat for coming up with a large array of absurd ideas.
	Thanks to the folks on Twitter for voting for them.
	And thanks to Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sigourney Weaver for being awesome in Alien and in Predator.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	Dr. G will be back tomorrow, and he'll be giving you the Real Deal America First Radio, but I appreciate your spending some time with me on this Monday.
	I will see you again, hopefully sometime soon.

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