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June 30, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Jim Hanson LIVE: SCOTUS is on the Constitution's side

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	�� I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Thank you.
	Hey folks, I am glad to be back for a second day while Dr. Gorka takes a well-deserved sojourn back to real America, freedom from the swamp.
	But hey, we have a lot going on.
	There are important things to talk about, like every day, you know, the dire state of our republic, the horrifying things the woke left is doing.
	But I want to get to something much more important to that right off the bat.
	This is a second day for me hosting for Dr. G.
	And yesterday I had on a very spiffy camouflage shirt.
	Not this one.
	The other one was a different color.
	And if we can get Eric to throw that up on the screen for those of you on Rumble.
	It was a very lovely urban camouflage.
	And the one thing we all enjoy about this show streaming live on Rumble is we have a lively chat.
	There are people in there who pay attention, they correct me and even Dr. G when he's wrong, and they give us commentary about what's going on.
	And I think that's important.
	This is not just, you know, some supposed smarty pants up here telling the rest of the world what they need to think.
	We're doing this together.
	So together, we're going to discuss my expertise in the field of camouflage.
	Now yesterday, Jabari308, I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing the Jabari part right, but commented that I was wearing arctic or winter camouflage and that was out of season, kind of like wearing white pants after Labor Day.
	And I'm going to point out that I was wearing urban camouflage, not arctic or winter camouflage as you would see on the screen, which has a white component.
	My designer shirt at that point, has no white component.
	It has urban camouflage with none.
	So when I'm sneaking around D.C.
	or some other, you know, Democrat-ruled crap hole, I can lurk in the shadows and they can't see me.
	Now, I can make these kind of claims because I am also a world-renowned expert on military camouflage.
	And I can prove that because I went ahead and tweeted my Twitter account is at Jim Hansen DC and it's also the the tweet that Seb put out for the show.
	I replied to that with a link to my appearance on an important American iconic show that used to be on a network called Spike TV.
	The show was Mancers.
	And this show was a ridiculous, sophomoric, frat boy humor show that I think was where Jimmy Kimmel might have gotten his start.
	But they used to have people who would ask questions.
	How do you most effectively win at beer pong?
	I did that.
	And I concluded for them that it was an artillery angle of the dangle and things like that.
	But I also was on a show they did about what is the most effective military camouflage.
	And I actually put a short clip of that up on my Twitter account to prove my bona fides in this matter.
	So Jabari, I appreciate the fact that you're keeping an eye on me, and I would not want to, you know, go ahead and make a fashion faux pas like that, but I did not.
	And I just want to, you know, thank you for at least checking in on me and helping me if I had been wrong.
	We also had Robbity Robb, who was calling it and asking if the camouflage pattern yesterday was truffle.
	That's kind of highbrow for a camouflage pattern.
	I don't think it was truffle.
	I'm going with pure urban camouflage.
	So for those of you who want to take a look, check my Twitter account at jimhansondc.
	You will see the short clip from Mancers and the pictures of my shirt yesterday and the Arctic camouflage.
	And if you want to see the full show of Mancers on the military camouflage, which to be fair, it's worth watching if you happen to like women In camouflage body paint.
	Instead of bikinis.
	I'm not joking.
	That's how they did it.
	I am honored to have been a part of such a highbrow important thing like that.
	But I just wanted to clarify that and to go ahead and thank the folks in the rumble chat for playing the game.
	This is an interactive thing.
	I told Eric before who generally monitors that for us.
	I grew up in the comments when the internet was first being invented.
	I started on message boards and everything else.
	So the game is important.
	We're all a part of it.
	Now on to the moderately important decisions from the Supreme Court that came down.
	Can we just take a moment and be...
	Thrilled, I think is fair, about what we've gotten out of this Supreme Court term.
	I mean, Roe v. Wade is dead.
	No more babies will be dead.
	Less babies.
	We're still working on that.
	We also got a brilliant addition to Heller v. D.C.
	with the Clarence Thomas written Second Amendment decision.
	And now we got a couple more today.
	It was a good election one, too, that says states are allowed to write their own districts and everybody else should probably shut up a little bit about that.
	But the ones today bring up an important point about what the Supreme Court's job is.
	And they are ruling that the EPA had gone too far with regulations and they were not allowed to just decide that they were the deciders of everything about pollution and everything just because climate change is such a horrible thing.
	And then we also had The Supreme Court's job is not to referee policy decisions and choose the one that they think is best.
	I just air-quoted, win.
	But we did win.
	The Constitution won.
	The Supreme Court's job is not to referee policy decisions and choose the one that they think is best.
	That's not their job at all.
	They're supposed to ignore that and look at what the Constitution says about how the organs of government, in this case, Congress and the executive branch, exercise their power.
	And in this case, the West Virginia EPA case, they came to the correct conclusion that the EPA had gone way beyond what the law said they were allowed to.
	And they called it major questions.
	When Congress writes a law, they can empower an executive agency to do certain things, but they have to be specific about which of their powers, the legislative powers, they're delegating to that executive agency, in this case the EPA.
	The Supreme Court looked at it and rightly said what was in the law delegated to the EPA was much less than the EPA had taken and was just running wild with to go ahead and say instead of regulating how much a coal plant can emit, they were saying coal plants have to go!
	And we're putting a timetable on that.
	And so they said, no, not your job.
	And that's a win.
	We didn't, you know, that's exactly what they're supposed to do.
	So there are people who are happy about that, but be happy for the right reason.
	The right reason is that the Constitution won in that case.
	It also won in the other decision, which I don't personally enjoy the policy implications of, which was the Texas remain in Mexico case.
	They said that when a president wants to change the executive actions taken in regard to a law within the bounds of that law, They get to do that.
	And in this case, Biden was doing something I didn't want and you probably didn't want.
	I don't want illegal aliens or fake asylum seekers running across the U.S.
	free to do whatever they want, including not show up for their hearings or get jobs and create crime and all the other things that are a problem because of that.
	But we have to have a law that says that they must remain in Mexico or the president's executive authority, according to the laws we have, allowed Biden to stop that policy, which Trump implemented.
	OK, so if we want it fixed, guess what?
	We're having an election.
	So our job is to elect people who will then change the law to make remain in Mexico or get the heck out or just don't come in at all the law.
	And then we need the president to sign it.
	That can go up to the Supreme Court.
	And guess what?
	Remain in Mexico is a perfectly constitutional law.
	We just have to pass it through the legislature and get it signed by the president.
	So that's on us.
	So even though it wasn't the policy we wanted in the case of the Texas Remain-in-Mexico ruling, it was a win for the Constitution.
	And we need to keep in mind that our job is to be happy when the Constitution wins and then beat the other policies we don't like with the correct sticks.
	In this case, we need to beat them with the Congress stick and then we need to beat it with the executive signing stick.
	So let's do that.
	All right, so all in all, I think this was the greatest Supreme Court term in my entire adult life, and I'm tickled pink.
	This is Jim Hanson sitting in for Dr. G. We're going to have an awesome America First radio show today, because why not?
	We'll be back after the break.
	Be there.
	All right.
	Mike's on.
	It occurred to me too.
	Spike TV, what I remember it from.
	When I was a kid, at some point, I'm pretty sure it was Spike TV that started this.
	Every New Year's Eve, they would have a 24 hour Three Stooges marathon.
	And I loved those guys as a kid.
	That's beautiful.
	That was the first time in my life I ever stayed up to midnight was New Year's Eve, X year, I don't remember when.
	And all my parents, my parents had a party at our house, so they had all their friends out in the living room.
	So I just went down to their bedroom at the far end of the house, and I just watched Three Stooges until midnight, and it was glorious.
	Now, there was the show with Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla that had girls on trampolines.
	That was the man show, though.
	The man show.
	I think that was Spike TV, too.
	No, that was Comedy Central.
	Was it?
	Okay.
	What happened to Spike TV?
	Spike TV's gone now, right?
	I know.
	I don't know what happened.
	It was a cultural treasure.
	It really was.
	How could you not?
	It was like a better MTV.
	It was entertaining.
	I mean, for me, the idea of getting to be the military expert on beer pong... How did that happen, anyway?
	I'm curious.
	What's the origin story?
	Yeah, I had a friend out in Cali who actually had a producer who he knew on that show, and so they did that.
	Hey, it looks like I see Cory DeAngelis.
	Yes, and the mics are live on the road.
	Right on.
	How you doing, brother?
	Hey, doing well.
	How about you?
	Oh, life is a Shangri-La.
	We're winning.
	I'm not sick of winning.
	Never gonna get sick of winning, but we're winning.
	And that's why I'm happy to have you on, man.
	You're part of the winning team.
	Yeah, totally.
	Arizona's gonna lead the way in school choice and get other states to go all in.
	I'm in.
	Dude, we're like the yin and yang.
	Can you see my... I'm all dark and camouflaged and black and you're all bright and shiny and all that.
	It's kind of fun.
	It's good.
	The yin and yang is an important thing.
	The give and take.
	The ebb and flow.
	I love the symbolism of the painting in the background, too.
	There's just so much to draw from that picture.
	Cory's a gamer.
	Yeah, I'm on the road, too, so it's not my painting, but... Makes for a perfect backdrop.
	It is a good painting.
	You got great light.
	You got everything, man.
	You're set up.
	You're a pro at this.
	Thanks.
	Yeah, I'm on the road with the Yeti and, um...
	The webcam and... Yeti's a good mic, man.
	That's a good mic.
	Oh yeah.
	I like that one.
	90 seconds.
	So we got the Arizona win.
	Is there anything else on the horizon you want me to ask you about?
	I mean, there's the Supreme Court win from last week on School Choice.
	We have the Arizona win.
	God, there's so many wins at the Supreme Court I can't keep track, man.
	Alright, well we'll get both of those.
	Little victory lap.
	All right, 70 seconds.
	Someone in chat, Jim, robbity-bob again.
	He says, Spike TV got spiked.
	Oh, of course it did.
	That's rough.
	You missed the very highbrow opening of the show.
	Do you remember Spike TV?
	No.
	Oh, good.
	Then you're probably... I won't even bother.
	It's very, very lowbrow, but I had the thrill of being part of some of their more suggestive shows, I guess would be the polite term for it.
	The sad thing was those girls in the bikinis weren't right where I was either.
	You were in the studio and they're down on location.
	Yeah, it was b-roll of them.
	I got gypped.
	By the way, real quick from the Rumble chat, Warpathy, like Warpath with a Y at the end, says, Navy blue camo was ridiculous.
	Glad they replaced it.
	Yeah, that was... I mean, what are they trying to do, hide them if they fall overboard?
	Hi, Collings.
	America first.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Who are these people Trump keeps telling us in the break that do not believe in America first?
	I want them flogged on the National Mall.
	But hey, we are joined now by a member of the winning coalition, and we're winning so much I even forgot about a Supreme Court case we're going to talk about.
	Cori DeAngelis is with the American Federation for Children.
	And he has been just a leader in the fight for school choice.
	And we got two wins.
	First, the Supreme Court decision, I forgot.
	And then also the Arizona decision to have the entire state be run with the money following the children.
	Congratulations, because you were a part of both of those.
	Maybe not the Supreme Court case as much.
	But tell us the implications of the SCOTUS decision first.
	Yeah, totally.
	This is the Carson v. Macon case coming out of Maine.
	It was a 6-3 decision in favor of parental rights and education.
	And the basic takeaway is if you're going to have a school choice program, you can't discriminate against religious families and religious schools by excluding them.
	That's what was happening in Maine.
	And it pretty much reaffirmed what we already found in the Espinoza v. Montana decision in 2020, which was a 5-4 decision on the part of parents.
	And it also reaffirmed that school choice has no issue with the separation of church and state, which is not itself in the Constitution, for the same reasons that Pell Grants don't violate the Establishment Clause.
	with a Pell Grant for low-income kids, you can take the money, you can go to a public or private university, a religious or non-religious university, and you have a choice in the matter.
	Same thing with pre-K programs, same thing with Medicaid.
	You can take your Medicaid dollars to a private religious hospital if you want, and there's no separation of church and state issue because the primary beneficiary of that funding is the individual student and their families, and they can pick among religious and non-religious providers.
	So this deals a massive blow to these discriminatory Blaine amendments that exist in dozens of states across the nation, which were really rooted in anti-Catholic bigotry.
	And now this really helps propel the push for educational freedom anymore.
	No longer can you make the argument that school choice is somehow unconstitutional.
	We have tons of precedent now over several decades.
	Winning, winning.
	And it was not, you know, a separation of church and state.
	It was discrimination against individual families based on their choice of how to educate their kids.
	I mean, they acted as if they had, again, it's the Hillary, it takes a village concept, or the Terry McAuliffe, you know, who parents shouldn't have any say in their kids' education.
	They believe that the state owns the kids, and they'll decide what it is, regardless of what the parents think.
	And I just think this is another brilliant example of that going out the window.
	They've shown their true colors.
	They want to indoctrinate our kids, and they're doing it.
	They are indoctrinating our kids.
	We're just starting to claw back a little bit of that at a time.
	Now let's talk about the other big win.
	State of Arizona.
	The money follows the kids.
	Lay it out for us, Cory.
	Yeah, so the victory in Arizona is the biggest school choice victory in U.S.
	history.
	Every single family, regardless of income, regardless of background, will be able to take their kids' state-funded education dollars to the education provider of their choosing.
	That could be a public school, a private school, a charter school, or a home-based education option.
	With this victory, Arizona cements itself as the number one state for school choice, and when Governor Ducey of Arizona signs this bill into law, which he is expected to do soon, he'll essentially be walking up to Governor DeSantis of Florida and snatching out of his hands the school choice championship belt of the U.S.
	Look, Ducey's been a leader in school choice.
	We all know this.
	This is friendly competition, and more Republican state governors should follow the lead of Ducey and DeSantis and go all in on school choice.
	Now's the time to do it.
	Support for educational freedom is at an all-time high, and defenders of the status quo are on defense.
	We saw this with Terry McAuliffe.
	We saw this with the National School Boards Association, who tried to label parents as domestic terrorists for pushing back at school board meetings about curriculum.
	Well, since then, over the past half a year, 26 states have already left the National School Boards Association.
	We might as well call them the Regional School Boards Association.
	And look, this whole it-takes-a-village approach, this idea that your kids and their money meant for educating them belong to the government, it's just absolutely unpopular.
	And if more Republicans were smart, they would lean into this pro-parent, pro-educational-freedom stance because it's a political winner, but more importantly, it's the right thing to do.
	Well, there you go.
	He threw the gauntlet down.
	All right, Governor DeSantis, come on.
	You're the man.
	You've been leading on so many of these.
	Go ahead and jump past Doocy, Abbott, come on.
	Everybody in a Republican state who can do anything like this, do it.
	Because I don't care what else we do to push back against the woke, commie indoctrination agenda.
	We either win education or we lose the country.
	Because they're training our kids to hate the country and to hate the ideas that made this country great and to hate the ideas that keep it afloat.
	And to hate each other!
	So unless we get control back and remind kids, no, that stuff you were hearing from the drag queens is probably not what you want to take to heart.
	Listen to your parents and listen to the smart people.
	All right, so is there anything else?
	I mean, it just seems like that should be enough and everyone can go out and we can do it.
	What's the biggest problem we're not dealing with as far as choice?
	Where should we aim next?
	Well, the biggest thing is that in some deep red states, you have teachers unions playing in the Republican primaries.
	And essentially putting fake Republicans into office to block school choice bills.
	So, for example, in Texas in 2017, they passed in their Senate a school choice bill, an education savings account, which is the gold standard of educational freedom and school choice.
	But the House didn't have the votes, even though the Texas House is overwhelmingly Republican.
	Whereas in Arizona, they have a one-seat majority in the House and in the Senate.
	It's the slimmest of margins, but every single Republican in that state got it done.
	They showed up, but they didn't just show up.
	They voted for the policy to support parental rights in education.
	But the good news is, going forward, this isn't 2017 anymore.
	The past two years have opened the eyes of so many parents, which have become this new special interest group in K-12 education, who are holding politicians accountable.
	And the American Federation for Children Action Fund and its affiliates Their candidates have won about 97, 79% of the races this year, and we saw what happened in Iowa as well.
	Governor Reynolds tried to pass an education savings account bill passed through the Senate, but then it got blocked in the House despite having 60% of the members of the House having an R next to their name while coming out against parental rights.
	She endorsed nine candidates, mostly on with the dividing line of school choice.
	Eight of those nine candidates won their primaries.
	And she helped unseat four or five incumbents who came out against her bill to fund students as opposed to systems.
	So get on the train and support parental rights or parents are going to hold you accountable at the ballot box.
	I see that this is a positive movement going forward.
	I'm optimistic.
	It's a winner!
	It's a winner for us, it's a winner for the kids, it's a winner for the country.
	Cory DeAngelis, American Federation for Children, keep up the good work.
	If you see these fake Republicans in your areas and you need some light shined on them, Tell me, tell Seb, he's obviously much more powerful and we'll shine a light on them so they scurry back under the floorboards where they belong.
	We're going to come back after this and open up the phone lines 833-33-GORKA.
	I want to talk to the people and we're going to find out what everybody's thinking.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio, and we're winning.
	Back on?
	Yep.
	Cory, thanks brother.
	That was beautiful.
	You make me happy, man.
	I am so thrilled that this is working.
	It's been so long in my entire adult life watching the left be well organized and smart and run these campaigns and kick the crap out of our team on issues that we should own.
	We should own education.
	How the heck we now have these crazy fruitcake teachers, which is helping again.
	I'm so glad they went as crazy as they did because now all we have to do is point and say, who do you want teaching your kids?
	That thing that can't even identify itself that wants to use bunny pronouns.
	I saw one today where the chick was using bird pronouns.
	She's like, I'm a Cardinal and my partner is a Robin, you know, and we use a air like shut up, you know, just shut up.
	So thanks man.
	I am a hundred percent in favor of everything you're doing.
	And if I can ever help, let me know.
	Yeah, totally.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	All right.
	All right, good luck on your trip.
	All right.
	Oh, I get it.
	I get it.
	Did I get the number right?
	833-33-GORKA.
	Alright.
	Yeah, 833-334-6752.
	I'll read.
	It's right there in front of me and I'm like, but there's a bunch of other numbers next to it and I'm like... Yeah, yeah, the ads and whatnot, so sorry.
	Yeah, just 833-33-GORKA.
	Alright, it's the biggest one, too, so... Yeah.
	I figured that might be something.
	Two minutes, yeah.
	Yeah, I'm pleased to see that out of Arizona especially, because obviously, you know, Ducey and some of the Republicans in Arizona have not been stellar on some issues, but on that one, that's a big one that's important.
	Where are we?
	What segments are guests again?
	Because I'm lost now.
	Alright, 2A is your next guest.
	So I got half an hour of... Yeah.
	Good, good, good.
	That'll be... That's what I thought.
	Alright, yeah, well let's see if we can... Hopefully somebody will call in.
	Just give out the number if you want to give a topic, too.
	That's what people... That gets people ringing in like crazy.
	Alright, we'll do Supreme Court.
	A lot of times people won't call because they just think you have a lot of guests.
	Because we have usually more guests than calls and stuff too.
	Well, I need the voice Vox Populi or whatever it is.
	Love it.
	I do.
	Cory's such a nice guy, isn't he?
	Oh yeah, he's great.
	If I was gonna pick the guy I want to front that movement, I'd be like, I want him involved, you know?
	I don't care what he's selling, I'm buying it.
	That's just what I love about that movement, of like, the fighting back against education.
	Like, all the parents being at the school board meetings, and all the ones who go viral and now are suddenly like, the guy who started it all, that Brandon Michon guy here in Virginia, who Said, you know, like, figure it out!
	Raise the friggin' bar!
	Like, he just said.
	I just love that.
	And now we have these parents all over the place doing this stuff.
	It's great.
	It's the one thing, like, you know, we can win every congressional and Supreme Court decision and all that, but if we let them educate our kids, we're screwed.
	I mean, we're already screwed for a couple generations, you know?
	I mean... Was it Hitler or Stalin who said, uh, give me their children and I'll take control of their futures?
	I know it was one of those two who said that.
	Well, they're bad guys.
	Exactly.
	Yep.
	All right, Kellenlikes.
	Yep.
	All right.
	.
	Thank you.
	With more journalism in his little finger than CNN has on its entire network, Sebastian Gorka.
	Well, I'm not Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	But we're having a whole lot of America First action.
	We're having a winning day today.
	And I want to hear from everybody out there, so I'm going to give out the number again.
	It's 833-334-675 to 833-33-GORCA.
	It's 833-334-6752.
	And let's talk about any of the Supreme Court decisions and what that actually means, what any of them specifically mean, or what the fact that we now have a Supreme Court who believes in the Constitution means for the rest of the country.
	Because I think it's been painful.
	You know, even though we haven't been subjected to a big time, you know, leftist Supreme Court, activist court recently, it's a danger.
	If you look at what happened, as soon as Joe Biden was in office and the new Congress was seated, the first thing they wanted to do was pack the court.
	They wanted to add a couple states so they get some free senators.
	They wanted to kill the filibuster and all those kind of things.
	And I think that's dangerous.
	They're willing, in their pursuit of raw power, the left is willing to basically throw out the federal republic that the founders set up for us.
	And the Constitution that protects that and the separation of powers, you know, the balance of powers and all the things that stop anyone from running a kind of a mob rule situation.
	So I think that is the danger.
	And they're not going to stop, you know, as we look right now.
	Jeff, do we have the clip of Biden?
	The one, yeah, will you play the clip of Biden talking about how he is ready to go ahead, how Roe v. Wade is the menace to the world, and he's ready to do whatever.
	The one thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States on overruling not only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy.
	We've been a leader in the world in terms of personal rights and privacy rights.
	And it is a mistake, in my view, for the Supreme Court to do what it did.
	That is the President of the United States Not speaking to Americans.
	He's speaking to foreigners.
	He's at the G7 summit.
	He's talking to the NATO leaders and he is in a position where he's telling them that a co-equal branch of government, the United States Supreme Court, is the problem.
	They're the ones who are destabilizing the world.
	Excuse me, now we all know Joe's a muttonhead, you know, that there's nothing in his brain more active than butterscotch pudding.
	But he's saying this, and I'm curious, that sounded to me like a scripted moment.
	That sounds to me like something his staff said, you know what we need you to do?
	We need you to go ahead and get on the line and tell the world how bad this was because we're embarrassed.
	We don't want the rest of the world to think we're a bunch of backwards knuckle-draggers who don't believe in abortion on demand and who don't kill as many babies as we could.
	Ignoring the fact that not only do most other countries have regulations and laws that are at least as strict as the ones that just got upheld in Missouri, but they have a situation where now he is calling into question The patriotism and the ability of the Supreme Court to operate and function.
	The U.S.
	President did that.
	And I think, I'm sorry, that to me, if that's not an impeachable offense, that is sure as heck a run him out of a majority and let's make sure That come the next Congress, he can't do any of that because the next thing he said and his partners are saying is let's get back to this idea of killing the filibuster in order to codify Roe v. Wade into law.
	And if they do that, who knows?
	I mean, I'd like to think there's a chance if they put Roe v. Wade into law and it went back up to the Supreme Court that we might get a 5-4 decision saying, nope, still not interested in killing babies, because that wasn't the question.
	You know, we talked about how the Constitution is the question in a lot of these rulings that SCOTUS has put down.
	But if they put up a policy and say, no, we want to codify abortion on demand up to, you know, as the left wants, up to as far as they can go, the day of birth, I wonder if that would make it through.
	But they want to try.
	So they're thinking about nuking the filibuster and going ahead and doing that.
	And they still want to pack the court.
	They want to do all the rest of this.
	So I just can't emphasize enough how important it is that we oppose this and that we shut them down.
	We have to win Congress.
	And between now and then they can do some damage, but not as much as they want.
	All right, let's see if we can get some callers for the next segment.
	833-33-GORKA.
	833-334-6752.
	I want to talk about any of the Supreme Court decisions.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	We're winning, but we want to keep on winning, and that takes your help.
	We'll be back after the break.
	All right, mic's on.
	Mic's on.
	We got Sam the Liberal who wants to talk.
	Oh boy.
	Is that a regular?
	Well, I think he's called in a couple times, but then like dropped off or something.
	I can't even get to him.
	So if you can get to him, that'll be interesting.
	I just want to call in because I want to say that, but I don't want to be actually on the air.
	Scary.
	Oh, man.
	I mean, if you were Sam's, or Seb's more likely to rip somebody a new one.
	You know, he's that guy.
	I don't normally shred callers, but you never know.
	You could push my buttons.
	I mean, I can't even recall the last time we had a prank caller in a while.
	Like, we had some leftists.
	We did, last week, get a leftist to criticize Seb over voter fraud in 2020.
	But, like, you know, we haven't had a prankster in, like, a very long time.
	That would be fun.
	Yeah, he called him an asshole on the air.
	That's right, yeah.
	It was very quick, like it was kinda hard to hear, but you kinda knew what he said, and we all just kinda rolled with it, but yeah.
	I should call in sometime and ask him why he still has his accent, if he's become an American citizen.
	I was gonna say, Schlichter was hoping, he was thinking of a cover story for why his jacket vis got messed up, he should just use that story and say, oh, we got to write dust up with some Groikas.
	Another fight like we do, because we're a bunch of brawlin', beer swillin'.
	Now, Schlichter drinks wine, man.
	I always question people whose main drink- I mean, I don't drink at all, but it was wine drinkers- Wine just makes you tired.
	It gives you a headache.
	You can't have more than- No, no, no.
	I never understood.
	I mean, no, he's like- and he's unapologetic about it.
	I don't know.
	That's interesting.
	I never would have guessed that.
	I drink wine when I can't sleep.
	Interesting.
	I put it with ice in a red solo cup and just chug it.
	I'm serious, and it works.
	Chugging wine?
	Because I just take it to go to sleep.
	I haven't done that since college when it was the wine bag.
	About 20 minutes later, I'll fall asleep.
	I think the only time I ever drank wine was Boone's Tickle Pink when I was in high school trying to get girls drunk.
	Not that I was doing that for a bad reason.
	It was their idea.
	Now I'm a misogynist.
	Everybody did that back then!
	The chicks did it too.
	I hope you don't get nominated for the Supreme Court, man.
	I think that's highly unlikely.
	I bet you just offended the caller.
	Yeah, good.
	I think that's kind of the goal.
	No, I think it's a safe bet that any position of any kind that requires a thorough vetting of my background will end up revealing something.
	Although I did, I did a great background check on myself using some AI software that we have.
	Yeah, we've got some pretty cool software we're using to investigate the censorship of the Hunter Biden computer, that whole story and how they influenced the election.
	And I turned it on myself because I'm like, I wonder what I did.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	And the nice thing is I was much, much less – I got caught never almost is basically what I'm saying.
	The things I know I did, you know, the felonies I committed, the international treaties I violated, it's extensive.
	It's, I mean, it's impressive.
	The mob deals.
	I mean, I'd violate, I used to do it on purpose.
	It was like, I didn't want to miss out on my chance to break all these rules and see if I could get away with it.
	And apparently I did.
	Just imagine you at a confirmation hearing of some kind and someone just plays that clip of you on Mansur's, and it's like, you'll see he's a misogynist!
	And I'd be like, I stand by everything I said there, because, I mean... That's the best thing.
	I don't care what they've got on me.
	I would stand by it.
	I would stand by it.
	He's Jim Hansen, former Green Beret.
	A man who knows how to win civil wars without firing a shot.
	Or if you have to, that as well.
	Hey folks, I like that.
	I like when Seb introduces me.
	It always sounds cooler.
	I asked for some callers and now we got a bunch of folks.
	I think... Why don't we go... Do we have Matt from North Carolina?
	Jeff?
	Jeff's giving me a hand and arm signal and it's not the middle finger, so just throw somebody on there and they can tell me who they are and we'll talk about it.
	Yes, sir, Mr. Hanson.
	It's Matt from North Carolina.
	Hey, I love North Carolina.
	I've been there quite a few times.
	Well, Matt, what's on your mind?
	I know Sebastian quite well only by radio, sir, and I just found out you were a Green Beret.
	That's excellent.
	Yeah, I had one of those cool hats.
	So here's my statement.
	If you remember in the past when Biden's stupid, one of his stupid blurbs about this man cannot remain in power, Putin?
	Right?
	Well who, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
	He's destroying our country!
	Who's he to say?
	I'm mad, man!
	That's a fair point.
	I mean, between the two, I think obviously Putin is a much worse guy than Biden.
	I'm not even going to ever compare any American president to a tyrant like Putin.
	But I will say, in my life, I thought Jimmy Carter was going to be the worst president in history.
	You know, the worst president who actually redeemed himself as a human in his post-presidency by building houses for poor people.
	But Biden has so crushed the damage that Carter did to our country in a much shorter period of time that Biden is, I think at this point, the most damaging, least effective, and I would love to see him moved out of power president in my lifetime.
	So I'm with you.
	Let's get rid of him.
	You are correct, sir.
	All right.
	Well, hey, I want to grab one more.
	How about can we get to Michelle in Minneapolis?
	I love this.
	I can see Jeff scrambling.
	Hello?
	Michelle!
	Hey, it's Jim Hanson.
	What you got for us?
	What's on your mind?
	I have a question for you.
	I'm just curious about why so many people want abortion.
	And I'm just wondering what they do with all the product that comes out of abortions.
	Are they using it for what?
	Hearts?
	Livers?
	Yeah, no, I think you're asking two very important questions.
	I think it has unfortunately been shown that the abortion industry sells baby parts.
	You know, they sell them for research, and that is disgraceful and subhuman at so many levels, I don't even know what to say.
	And when they got caught, they went after Project Veritas and the Life People, and actually punished them For exposing that horrific, ghoulish industry.
	So I think that's a fact that they are doing that.
	And I think the thing about abortion that became so disgraceful was it became birth control.
	You know, it became the way to make sex consequence free for a couple generations of men and women.
	And the hookup culture and everything that came out of that cheapened the value of life because you were busy enjoying yourself and, oh, let's drink and let's hook up and there's no consequences.
	You know, if we forget birth control or if we just don't care, then if the woman gets pregnant, boom, we'll just cut that little clump of cells right out and sell it for parts.
	And that coarsened our culture in a way that I just don't think is acceptable.
	Now, obviously, the Supreme Court ruling wasn't about whether or not abortion can happen or is a good thing, but it did refocus everyone and force people to take sides and say, hey, are you for or against killing babies for your own convenience?
	And I think we have a larger number of people now who have come to the conclusion that maybe we should be a little more responsible on the front end before we decide that the solution to a potential, you know, new life in our life is killing a baby.
	So I think that is a good thing.
	Hey, let's see if we can do this.
	Is Sam the liberal available?
	Hello?
	Sam, is that you?
	You got something for me, buddy?
	I was going to ask you something, but I decided I'm going to ask something else.
	Considering how devastating the January 6th commission is making Trump look, do you think that Trump should testify in front of the committee, or if that's something that He could get away with somehow, or what are your thoughts?
	Do you think that's something... I mean, if all of these allegations were coming out against me, I would do everything I could to clear my name, but... I think that's a great question, and I can tell you one thing.
	I'll guarantee you he wants to.
	You know, I will tell you right now that he is raring.
	I've heard from too many people in his orbit that he is angry about the things they're saying, because the bottom line, you may believe... So you're calling...
	You're calling for Trump to actually go out there and testify.
	No, I said he wants to.
	I would love to see it.
	If you want to talk about a great pay-per-view event and you wanted to raise money, you could do a pay-per-view event of Trump testifying and ripping the January 6th commission.
	Him versus Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger would be the cage match of the century because... You don't think that they would have any sort of evidence They don't have any evidence.
	That's the whole thing.
	No, they don't have any evidence because they've tried.
	And the only problem would be, given our current situation, if he misstates something to the point that they could use it as perjury, that would be the reason for him to not testify.
	If he just went ahead and said, I didn't do something that he actually did for whatever reason, whether he meant to or not, Then they'd have him for perjury.
	That's the reason his lawyers won't let him do it.
	But I tell you right now, I can't think of a more entertaining thought than Adam Kinzinger, that puny little booster seat needin' weasel, and Liz Cheney, another Republican without a seat to sit on come the next Congress.
	I can't imagine the damage he would do to them Just sitting across spitting fire as they threw lame and lamer charges against him.
	Because I've seen all the evidence they have against him.
	They're 0-for-2 trying to impeach him.
	They're going to be 0-for-3 with this hearing of this witch hunt, this kangaroo court, this show trial, this garbage waste of time.
	So, Mr. President, I know you want to do it.
	I'm sure your lawyers won't let you.
	But maybe after the next Congress, when Kinziger and Cheney are private citizens, maybe we organize that for pay-per-view.
	And we just donate the money to charity, you know?
	Just take them on as a private citizen.
	Nobody's under oath.
	There's no garbage perjury charges.
	And you squash them like the bugs that they are.
	Ha ha!
	Now I've got an idea.
	We'll figure out which charity next time.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We are having a winning, rockin' America First kind of day.
	Stick with us after the break.
	I have no idea what's coming up next, but it's going to kick butt.
	On the stream.
	Can you even imagine?
	Just like, setting up a pay-per-view event.
	You gotta buy tickets, pay for tickets to go.
	Have it in Madison Square Garden for that matter.
	Just like, get a Vince McMahon to be the referee.
	Ted Nugent and Kid Rock can play to open up the show, you know?
	Donald Trump versus the J6 committee, dude!
	You got Buffer doing the announcements, right?
	Let me tell you something.
	They're talking about insurrections.
	They're talking about coup d'etats.
	It wasn't an insurrection.
	It wasn't even a riot!
	It was a peaceful protest!
	Mostly peaceful.
	Oh, God, that would be money.
	Alright, wait, are we... I think he should just show up to the Capitol and do a press conference.
	Yeah, don't testify, just... Just go out on the steps.
	All the press, just leave the committee room immediately and go watch Trump's event.
	Because you know that's where they want to be if Trump shows up.
	All right, so top of the hour, what have I got?
	I've got... This is the short segment.
	You've got this three-minute segment here, there's one call, and then you've got the two guests in A and B. Okay, so I've got Lucia first?
	Yes, and then Dave Bratz the second.
	Okay.
	Robbity Bob in the Rumble chat says, Octagon meets Octopussy.
	That's why you have a chat.
	All right.
	That's why you have a chat.
	I need that.
	I jotted this comment down during the whole other conversation on like the caller talked about selling baby parts.
	Buck Fiden, who is a regular, says NRA does not sell arms.
	Planned Parenthood does.
	Oh my god.
	It's not wrong!
	It's not incorrect, you see.
	No!
	We gotta understand, offense is proper.
	If you're not offended by something like that, and you can't joke about it, then you're doing it wrong.
	Unless they get shots at both sides there, you're taking shots at Planned Parenthood and the NRA.
	You're saying the NRA should sell arms?
	God.
	What?
	Commie arms.
	We'd either toss them out of helicopters, or chop them up and sell them for parts.
	I don't care.
	Time up to like big like freaky alters like in a Texas Chainsaw Movie or something.
	There you go, there you go.
	Alright, we got one caller left?
	30 seconds.
	Jeff says yes, one caller left.
	Dean in Ohio.
	All right, we'll do Dean, and then that'll take us to the top of the hour.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	I most definitely am, Jim Hansen.
	That was Dr. Sebastian Gorka, who is traveling across the U.S.
	because he can and you need to get away from this cesspool from time to time.
	We've been having fun with our callers so far.
	I think we can take at least one more for the top of the hour.
	Let's talk to Dean in Ohio.
	Dean, what's up, buddy?
	Say, it just needs to be pointed out that the Democrats won't accept the rulings and opinions of the Supreme Court on abortion.
	Well, the Supreme Court's one of the three federal branches of government, and it's interesting because they're saying that Donald Trump should go to jail because he didn't want to accept the opinions of the branch of Congress about the election.
	It's just kind of interesting, you know?
	I think if there's one thing we could always count on the left for, it's the hypocrisy of their positions.
	Because they don't actually have an ideology beyond they want to be in charge and tell everybody else what to do.
	And anything they do in the pursuit of that, they're perfectly willing to do.
	And I think we've seen that.
	I think the January 6 Commission Is a perfect example and it's it's the culmination I think of the push they've been making and we talked about this some yesterday to criminalize dissent.
	They don't believe and part of it is because leftism.
	Kami socialism, wokeism, any progressivism, liberalism, they're all flavors of a secular religion.
	And they believe with the same fervor that believers in other religions do, that if you don't agree with them, you're going to burn in hell.
	Right?
	And in their view, you know, they are perfectly willing to create one here on earth, like most of the cities they govern, and throw the rest of us into it.
	But if they can't have that, you know, they'll take the gulag or take what they can.
	So it's always a pure, naked pursuit of power with the left.
	And don't ever expect for a second a coherent position on any issue if it relates to Whether or not they get their way.
	That's all they want.
	If they get their way, then it was the right decision.
	Like we just talked about at the beginning of the show, I believe that one of the Supreme Court decisions was a good thing, even though it stopped a policy that I want.
	Huh, that's weird.
	I mean, that's like intellectually and morally and ethically coherent, as opposed to just purely seeking power, in which case I would say, no, I don't care about what the actual law said.
	I don't care what the Constitution said.
	I want my policy.
	I want them to use the Constitution and use their power to get what I want.
	That's what the left believes.
	We don't believe that.
	We actually want to take the Constitution, and sometimes we get what we want, sometimes we don't, and if we don't, we come back and fight again another day.
	That's the way principled people act.
	We have principles, they have totalitarian ideology.
	That makes us better.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're heading to the top of the hour.
	We have great guest Lucia Navarro from Americano Media is going to tell us why Latinos are coming our way.
	We'll be back after the break.
	All right.
	Mic's on.
	We are in this.
	Oh, we got seven minutes.
	Seven minutes.
	Seven minutes to...
	Relax.
	Talk to Rumble Chat.
	The chat's loving.
	They're having a blast.
	The chat is rock and roll.
	The chat are my people.
	I swear.
	I'm not joking.
	I started out in the comments on a website called Madison.com in Madison, Wisconsin.
	Nice.
	And they had bulletin boards.
	You know, kind of like what became Reddit and stuff like that.
	Oh yeah.
	They had the early form of the bulletin boards up.
	This was like 2004, 2005.
	Oh, extreme close-up.
	Yeah, he's testing the focus feature.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They had that night.
	I was on there as Uncle Jimbo.
	I was anonymous because I had a real job selling stuff to the government at that point in time.
	And Obama was the government.
	Oh boy.
	It was the end of the Bush administration.
	Bush and then it went into, by 2008 it was.
	But it was the situation where I would go on and argue with the angry left.
	And they loved to hate Uncle Jimbo.
	And it became such a thing that Madison.com was the website of the two newspapers in Madison.
	They had a liberal newspaper and a slightly, mildly right-of-center newspaper.
	They shared a website, they shared a printing plant, and they eventually decided that I was getting so much action arguing with the rabid leftists of Madison That they asked me if I wanted a blog on Madison.com.
	And so back before blogs were even really much of a thing, they had just started, and I don't think anybody had had one on a major newspaper website except for reporters.
	But they gave me one and I started writing and it just kind of blew up from there because it got to the point, it was funny, because the editorial page and all their big opinion writers and everything like this, my blog drew more traffic than their whole editorial page section.
	And they hated that.
	Oh my God, they hated that.
	And it was just because, you know, I mean, okay, it's not, I'm not gonna say I was the most brilliant writer in the world.
	I read some of the stuff I wrote then and I'm a little embarrassed.
	But it got the argument started.
	And then I would just have every leftist and all their friends pile on and, you know, the comment threads would go on for days and days and days and days.
	It was a blast.
	It's a simpler time, message boards, comment sections, and all knowing you could say that stuff without worrying, oh, am I going to get banned?
	Am I going to get shadow banned?
	Am I going to get deleted?
	Exactly.
	It really was the Wild West of the internet in the early, mid-2000s, late 2000s.
	Yeah, it was fun.
	And we went from there.
	And then I was writing for a military website called Black5.
	And Black5 had, they were probably Between five and ten of us, depending on when it was, some of them were still in the military, active duty.
	And what happened was they started feeding us information from in theater and we were using it to debunk the lies that CNN and the rest of the MSM were telling about the war.
	So they would say, oh, there was a massacre at this market and all these people were killed and U.S.
	troops just slaughtered them with no regard for humanity.
	And then my buddies would say, you know, I was there.
	I'm sorry.
	Here's some pictures.
	And we would literally then debunk the New York Times and CNN and all the rest of them.
	And it was a blast.
	And it got to the point where then we became part of the Pentagon early bird brief every day.
	They would put our stories up and, you know, we kind of were part of bringing new media into existence.
	And I'm pretty proud of that.
	That really is incredible, yeah, and especially the backdrop of the war, because of course they mainstreamed so many lies about the war.
	I mean, again, we can look back on it now, especially in the era of Trump, and be like, yeah, it was...
	The war's longevity justified?
	No.
	But like, you know, the lies they went so far to say like, oh, Bush and Cheney are literal war criminals.
	And it's just like, they just.
	There was a time my first, it was either my first or second time ever on TV.
	It was like 2005, you know, and, and things were going badly.
	You know, we weren't, we weren't winning in Iraq and they, uh, they had me on CNN to talk about the fact that Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda in Iraq at the time had put up video of one of their snipers.
	Taking out American troops, right?
	And they wanted to have me on because they were saying, CNN's point was the insurgents are winning the information war.
	And they wanted me to comment on that.
	And so they had me on and they got their two people in studio and I'm in Madison.
	And they asked me the question, so why do you think, you know, the insurgents, the bad guys, or they didn't say the bad guys because they didn't believe that.
	Of course.
	The insurgents are winning the information war.
	And you can see halfway through the question when I figure out, I decide, do I really want to ever be on CNN again?
	And I decide no, and I chuckle before I answer.
	And my answer was, well, you forced me to point out that you guys took video off of an Al Qaeda website of their snipers killing a US troop and put it on CNN's website.
	Then Al-Qaeda took it off CNN's website with your chyron on it and put it back on their website.
	So who's the one helping them win the information war?
	That's right, yeah.
	And you should see their guy, his name is Jamie McIntyre.
	His eyebrow went all the way up over his forehead.
	And I was like, okay, thanks.
	You know, it was great being on your stupid network and I haven't been on CNN since.
	That's great.
	It's like with Seb's early days of the White House, like talking to CNN and telling Anderson Cooper like, "You are aware Cartoon Network gets more views than your show, right?" Yeah, we got one minute. we got one minute.
	Shit, shit, shit.
	Show me preview 2 real quick, expression 2.
	Yeah, that's good, thank you.
	Just in case.
	40 seconds.
	404?
	Hold on a second, hold on a second.
	Yeah, mics are loud.
	I have her number just saying, do you want to try it from you?
	because maybe it's because she doesn't know my number.
	You just want to try a text on her from your...
	Yeah, I'm trying.
	Hold on.
	All right, I'll keep trying her.
	All right.
	All right.
	Hey, it is a pleasure to be on and glad Dr. G is getting out of town and enjoying life.
	We are missing Lucia right now, so we're trying to coordinate with her to get her on the show because she's got important stuff to say.
	But we're going to jump on and actually talk about another thing that I think is at least as important as
	Our newly found Latino army is, we've got a number of people who I think have decided that all of the issues that currently face us, whether they are good, bad, or indifferent, we have to be in 100% agreement on, or we have to cast people out.
	Now, and I get it.
	I understand that when we watch the rhinos and we watch the people who are supposedly on our team fail us miserably, that it is a natural instinct to throw them out of the boat.
	And we should do that.
	You know, I think that's a fair thing.
	But throwing them out of the boat permanently?
	Or maybe pushing them out and dunking them a little bit, you know?
	I mean, I'm not saying waterboarding or anything like that, but we have to figure out how and where the dividing lines are.
	You know, what is too much?
	What is too weak?
	What is people who are too soft to actually be useful members of our coalition?
	Are we going to be a 100% with me or you're the enemy?
	Or are we going to be a big tent?
	And if we're in a situation, you know, where we're taking people who are going to vote with us 85% of the time and saying we no longer want them.
	You know, I had someone say to me at a Republican event the other day that they would rather have a leftist in a seat than a rhino Because then we could go ahead later and fight to get an actual maybe America First candidate in there going against a leftist as opposed to, you know, a rhino in there who can use incumbency to keep their seat.
	That's possible.
	You know, it's a technique.
	It's a dangerous technique.
	And I think, you know, we need to be careful about wishing ourselves things that are going to lead to unintended consequences.
	You know, I don't know whether there's a way we can go ahead and agree to disagree with our own team.
	We've already agreed there is no grounds for disagreement with the left.
	And I think at some level now we have to find a way to agree to miss some issues.
	If the major ones we can agree on, and I think that's necessary so we don't get ourselves in a position where we're going to leave an opening for probably not Biden, because he's not going to get much done, but an actual competent leftist leader to go ahead and take control.
	And if they get again, the president and both houses of Congress, What is going to happen if they have a competent leader who's willing to take us out?
	We need to have at least the kind of ability and consistency to say, our team may not agree with us on everything, but we at least have to have a way to embiggen the tent To be a majority party because at this point, you know, you can look we I don't want to talk about the popular vote because that's that's that's messy.
	I don't think anybody knows how many people voted for.
	I know nobody knows how many voted for Biden.
	How many voted for Trump?
	All right, but I do know that for the past however many elections.
	There are more people in leftist states voting than there are in ours.
	So we're at a disadvantage.
	And I think we need to act smartly about that in a situation where we're not going to miss out on opportunities.
	Unfortunately, I think we're still missing Lucia.
	That's unfortunate.
	I may have screwed this up, Jeff, and given you the wrong number.
	I don't know.
	But I'm willing to take the hit on it because I can't get to anything to hit her right now without just shutting up and babbling here.
	So I'm going to jump in.
	Can you give me the MTG clip?
	If we can't do anything else?
	As far as pardons are concerned, I think we should pardon Julian Assange.
	I think we should pardon Edward Snowden.
	Did you ask for a pardon?
	You know what, you're a member of the press.
	You should care about what I just said.
	It really matters.
	Okay, now for those of you who didn't see it, that was Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who I love.
	She is one of my favorite new team members.
	She is an America first.
	She is a hardcore fighter for our team.
	She is someone who I respect, who I think is going to be in Congress for a while, and has already done good things just by being able to stand up and willing to take the punches that come in return.
	She's that kind of a person, and I think it's wonderful.
	I disagree with her on what she said, and let me repeat it for you because it was a little tough to hear.
	She said we need to pardon Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.
	And I understand there are a number of people out in the audience right now who agree with her on that point.
	And I disagree with her on that point.
	And I'll explain why.
	But before I do that, I made a point of that this morning on Twitter.
	I answered to her and said, nope, we should not.
	And I explained why.
	And Seb texted me from the road.
	And he said, thanks for doing that.
	I agree as well.
	And I think I want to get to his quote on that.
	Because he said something that I told him I wanted to quote.
	He said Snowden is scum and Assange is a psychotic narcissist.
	And I happen to agree with both of those things.
	And regardless of their personal failings as human beings, here's why we should not pardon them.
	And Marjorie Taylor Greene brought it up in the context of the First Amendment.
	You know, as in, you know, the press has a right to do that.
	You know, they were acting in accordance with journalism, who somehow seem to have taken the fact that the freedom of the press shall not be abridged to mean they can steal government secrets and publish them with absolutely no consequences.
	Now, whatever the laws say about that, and we haven't tested them very well, you know, there are treason statutes and there are other things that could come into play if you do that and give them to an enemy during wartime.
	But as far as just taking secrets, you know, having someone or collaborating with someone as Assange did with Snowden, to take secrets from the U.S.
	government and then without doing a bit of due diligence to find out what they had because they put a petabyte of data on the internet.
	There's no way two people who didn't have the expertise could ever determine whether there was information that was going to damage U.S.
	national security and be able to remove those things or not.
	They just decided that they were going to do it.
	And that is not something that any of us should be comfortable with a muppet like Snowden and a narcissist like Assange making the decision to be the deciders of.
	There's a reason things are classified.
	And yes, I'm well aware, I held a clearance for decades, that the government over classifies everything.
	I know that.
	They do it in some cases to hide things.
	I know that too.
	But there are also legitimate reasons that the government should be able to keep secrets.
	That's why we have accountability through representative government.
	If they do things that are wrong, we can vote them out of office.
	But the idea that anyone who decides, I don't like what the government is doing, therefore I'm going to use my supposed First Amendment right to put classified information out in public It's crazy town.
	You can't have that.
	So pardoning Snowden for doing that and causing this damage is an absurdity.
	Assange was colluding with and pushing him to do that, so he's in the same boat.
	I don't want either one of them pardoned.
	And I want to point out something in the course of this.
	Not one single crime was exposed by any of the information those two Muppets put out there.
	They gave it to China.
	They gave it to Russia.
	They exposed tons of our legitimate operations, damaged U.S.
	national security, but not a single thing they put out there showed an ounce of illegal activity by anyone.
	So what are we giving them a break for?
	Why shouldn't we throw the key away and leave them?
	Snowden can stay in Russia forever and I actually don't care what happens to Assange.
	But I don't think we should be pardoning people who took it upon themselves to go ahead and do that kind of damage to our national security without an ounce of care for the legitimate clandestine and covert operations and other operations that we conduct properly all around the world.
	If you don't like the things that are being done, you can't just go ahead and say, I'm going to tell the world I'm a whistleblower and not even have a whistle to blow on a single actual crime.
	That's garbage.
	Take it to Congress.
	Take it someplace else.
	Do it the right way.
	All right, this is Jim Hansen.
	We will see if we can catch up with Lucie and if she can maybe join us on another segment.
	I'm going to take the blame for that, so if she can hear me, we'll fix this.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	soon we're doing America First Radio and we'll be back after the break.
	We'll be right back.
	All right, mics are back on.
	All right.
	I'm gonna try and catch my buddy who works for them.
	What number should somebody call?
	Oh, hang on a second.
	Hang on.
	For the studio?
	Yeah, just to get her in touch with you so we can work this out.
	Yeah, we got to meet the mics real quick to give you that number.
	So, John, go ahead.
	Thank you.
	Hey Dave, Jim Hanson, how you doing?
	Hey Jim, good!
	All right, well I'm hoping you're going to tell us that I can once again reopen my financial apps without wanting to cry.
	But I don't think you're going to tell me that.
	No such reassurance, man.
	I'm looking way too preppy with that tough camo gear on there.
	Yeah, I do this because Seb wears a suit every time, so it's a change of pace.
	I've got to be the knuckle-dragger.
	Well yeah, let's take a good troll through the damage done to all of us and then I'll just keep buying unset diamonds and gold.
	It's making my wife happy, she likes that stuff.
	She's now trying to convince me that designer jewelry is the thing to invest in and I'm not convinced she's wrong.
	No, I don't trust anything right now.
	Oh, that's gonna make me cry.
	You know what we're actually doing?
	We're putting an addition on our house because you can't go wrong adding square footage.
	I think that, that I think is the way to go.
	Yep.
	Alright, we'll see.
	Plus you're happy in the meantime.
	Exactly!
	Yeah, and we'll have a bigger party room, so.
	Yep.
	Alright, cool.
	Well, they're going to cut the mics, and we'll take it away in just a few minutes.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	You know, if America first had a tote bag, it would have ammo in it.
	I think that's what we need to do.
	Hey, look, we got a lot of bad things happening in the country right now, almost too many to count.
	But the one that's hitting all of us is the damage they've done to the economy.
	So we're going to have someone on to talk now about what the damage is and what we can expect.
	Former Congressman Dave Brat, now economics professor.
	Dave, it's bad.
	It's ugly.
	I cry when I open my financial apps.
	And you're not going to tell me it's getting better, huh?
	No, there's no good news out on that horizon.
	We're not only destroying inflation and the price system and the interest rate, which is the price of money.
	It's the main price that we use to make all our other calculations.
	But we've been in a 50-year decline on the major variables that affect the real economy.
	Too much attention is paid to the stock market.
	Which is the financialization of all this stuff, right?
	And that's fine.
	You know, that affects your retirement and all that.
	But the real economy is what makes that possible.
	And if you just think through, you know, the main components that drive growth are capital investment, business investment, small business is getting clobbered.
	Human capital is one third of growth.
	That's education.
	And just compare our high school graduates with the Chinese and Indian competitors, and we're getting clobbered.
	And then the main driver that causes economic growth, I did my PhD in economic growth.
	And you know, if you add capital, you get diminishing returns, you remember in your horrified freshman macro class there.
	But there's only one variable that causes long run economic growth, and that's called total factor productivity.
	That's the creativity and the ideas and the entrepreneurship that's made America great.
	And if you neglect that one, that one, if you have it, it makes the whole curve go way higher.
	Just off the charts.
	Made us rich.
	Richest country in the world.
	Now total factor productivity is at zero.
	So the real economy's shot.
	We got inflation.
	We got unemployment.
	We got stagnation.
	There's more on that coming.
	Consumption and the consumer are devastated.
	The University of Michigan index is way down.
	The next shoe to drop that will bring immediate recession and loss of confidence on the business side are the earnings reports coming up any day, right, over the next week in July.
	Second quarter GDP growth is going to come out.
	First quarter was negative 1.6.
	And they're talking about zero or trying to fudge up 0.1.
	The government might fake that one.
	So it looks good, but it'll be negative after they correct it four times.
	And it'll probably be worse than the first quarter.
	And so, yeah, I got no good news to report other than I trust the American people.
	And any time, they better wake up and start changing things.
	Well, I think the one thing you said, though, that may have a long-term solution is when you talk about that total productivity, we've taught people to be dependent.
	America used to be the individual, the entrepreneur.
	You made your own world.
	You made your world a better place.
	You didn't rely on the government.
	You didn't rely on somebody else to take care of you.
	And we've killed that.
	It's culture, right?
	Politics is downstream from culture.
	Culture, in my view, is downstream from God, the first principle, the church.
	And we're getting weak, right?
	The old Protestant ethic.
	If you want to run some fun regressions, you know, look at where economic growth started.
	Look at where the rule of law started.
	Western Europe, bunch of Christian countries.
	And if you let that one go, right, the ethos, the leadership, the respect your elders, the work hard.
	Why should I do any of that?
	Well, you just ought to.
	That doesn't quite cut it.
	The modern ethics is pretty thin and pretty weak.
	And parents, time to get back to the basics.
	And everyone's worried about the secular left.
	If the press ever bugs you on ethics or philosophy or religion, ask them one simple question, which interested Leibniz way back a few hundred years ago.
	And then even the atheists recognize the most important question.
	Why is there something instead of nothing?
	And watch them squirm and dance, and they'll say, oh, that's not a sophisticated question.
	No, it's just the central question in modern philosophy for the last 2,400 years.
	Why is there something instead of nothing?
	I watched Stephen Hawking one time.
	And then you get the economy, right?
	No, exactly.
	You got it.
	He failed.
	Actually, he got asked that question.
	He said, what caused the Big Bang?
	Right.
	And he said, first, there was nothing.
	Then there was something.
	Which is essentially a math equation that says zero plus zero equals one.
	Right.
	No, you can't do that.
	Well, all right.
	The reason I'm going to go ahead and I'll play the optimist because you just ruined everybody's day.
	And I appreciate that because if we don't, if the people don't feel the pain, they won't ever get it fixed.
	But we had Corey DeAngelo's on.
	We're taking school choice back.
	We're winning on school choice.
	We're changing it so that the money can follow the kids.
	We can re-indoctrinate them into the things that made this country great.
	We can remind them that those are all gifts from God, and that all of these things spring from that.
	And I think if enough of them get it, we either pull everybody along with us, Or that things get bad enough in the Democrat-run areas that everybody moves to Florida and Texas and places like that.
	And those become economic prosperity zones.
	Yeah, I'm hopeful with you on that one.
	But boy, I was working on that 20 years ago in the Virginia Senate.
	And it's amazing the ideologues.
	You need the House and the Senate and a bulletproof Senate and the governor to go along with it.
	And so yeah, hopefully we got some big waves like in Virginia this time.
	But it's amazing how many of the weaker Republicans even when the school union people start marching and you can hear the footsteps coming and the emails come in and the screaming at you and everybody gets weak on our side.
	It's usually on our side that we get the weakness.
	And so maybe things are changing.
	The moms now are on fire, right, with this grooming stuff.
	And they ought to be.
	And then the Hispanics and our African American brothers and sisters.
	I think we're all, I think everyone, the Catholics, the Protestants, all the different groups are going back and looking upstairs because things are so dire.
	That's where you look when you need some hope.
	And if we return, God can turn things around remarkably.
	Has done so in history.
	And that's what it takes.
	My wife was famous all through the Trump times of saying, things haven't gotten bad.
	We're doing some wins here and there, but it hadn't gotten bad enough.
	I'm going to thank Biden.
	You know, for going ahead and driving the bus off the cliff.
	And then when we hit the bottom, you know, we can go ahead and try to move it back up.
	And maybe that's the best we can hope for.
	I hope not.
	But thanks so much.
	I want to thank you as well, because a dose of reality It's very easy for everyone to go ahead and think, you know, things have been great for so long and we're America and it's always going to turn out great.
	And that's just not the case unless we pull our weight.
	And that's right.
	You're one of the guys who's been doing that and now you're teaching the next one.
	So thanks, Dave Bratt, former Congressman, now Dean of the Business School at Liberty University.
	Keep churning out quality individuals.
	We appreciate it.
	Bring your students.
	I'm on the third floor of the business school.
	I have an open-door policy.
	Come on up and say hi.
	Tell them this summer to read Closing of the American Mind by Alan Bloom, a classic on education, after they're done reading the Bible.
	Tell them to read that one.
	Done.
	And come on up and visit me.
	All right.
	Thanks, Dave.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We are going to rebound from that dose of reality, take it to heart and make it into a better thing with more America first after the break.
	Hey, Jeff.
	Oh, hang on a second.
	Go ahead, Storm.
	All right, somehow, hold on.
	That was good news.
	Yeah, no.
	What guest network am I supposed to be on?
	Guest net?
	Oh, um... See on Wi-Fi.
	Because I tried to send a text to my buddy and it didn't go through.
	Well, no, that's not the one I've been on.
	I've been on one of the guest ones.
	Guest services?
	Yeah, but that's the other studio.
	It doesn't work very well over here.
	Oh, alright.
	Yeah, it's a bit, uh, dodgy.
	I mean, I'm using it here in this studio, and granted, I'm over here, but... Why don't you just hit on my player?
	So you still can't get Lucia?
	No, no.
	Let me give you my buddy's number, then.
	Hang on a second, let's turn those mics off.
	Yeah, kill the mics. - kill the mics. -
	Mics are back on.
	So I'm going back to, you know, it's not, I'm not even joking when my wife wants to buy diamonds, unset diamonds and gold.
	I bought gold coins last year.
	Not even like futures.
	I love gold.
	I just wanted to do like the super villain thing where you've got the jewels and the coins in a dish and you're kind of dropping them with your fingers.
	Scrooge McDuck just have a room full of gold swimming in it.
	You know, something like that.
	So good.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure if ammo counts as an investment, but it's the best way to make sure that if none of the other investments work, I can at least get what I need.
	If it really hits the fan, it's the best investment you're ever gonna make.
	Hey, and we are well invested.
	My wife, former paratrooper that she is, she started back when Trump and Hillary were running.
	She's like, if she wins, ammo is going to go through the roof.
	Buy bullets.
	And I'm like, I love you.
	And so I did.
	And I bought a bunch, like I bought thousands of rounds.
	And she's like, how many did you buy?
	And I said, I bought like three, four thousand rounds.
	She says that's not enough.
	No!
	And she said buy more.
	And she did that like three times.
	We ended up in the 2016 run-up to the election with like 20,000 rounds.
	That is... Yeah, we've been shooting off that since, and then started replenishing it again when the ammo, we had the shortage, and everyone else was out of ammo, and I'm like, I'm not out of ammo, right?
	And then when that kind of went past, I started buying again, and so it's the one thing I refuse to let go below, you know, zombie apocalypse prep level.
	How many rounds do you need, you think?
	Oh god, to get through a conflict.
	You can never have enough.
	But you gotta, if you got a thousand, you know, you have enough.
	Because if by the time you've spent a thousand rounds, you haven't used it to gather more, you know, you've already lost.
	You know, so the whole idea for me, I mean, I like having a lot because we're kind of a rallying point.
	I have a deal with Schlichter.
	All right, if the excrement hits the rotary oscillator, I will be the East Coast warlord and he will be the West Coast warlord.
	And then we'll eventually push through the center, you know, and reunite.
	You got to use ammo to like, you know, reload off of dead guards like NPCs in video games.
	All of it.
	You know, there's a million ways.
	When I watch TV shows, I'm always like, I can't believe that guy didn't pick up that magazine.
	Oh my god.
	You know, he went past it.
	Why didn't she grab that gun?
	You're done.
	You're picking up off the ground.
	All right, Joe, Mike.
	News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	I love the intros on this show.
	This is Jim Hanson sitting in for Dr. G, who is traversing real America as we speak.
	And speaking of real America or semi-real America, I want to take another call because it looks like we got some callers from California, which is part of America still, I believe.
	We'll have to see how long that lasts, but let's see if Nancy from California wants to talk.
	Hey, Nancy.
	Hi.
	How you doing?
	What you got?
	Good afternoon.
	I'm good.
	Two questions.
	The first one is, why are the Republicans not going to the January 6th commission, which they should call it the January 6th comedy hour?
	Why are they not going and insisting on participating and asking questions?
	And the other one is, what are the men's rights regarding women who want an abortion once the baby is four or five months?
	Okay, those are—I like both of those.
	I think the January 6 Commission, when they first did it, you know, obviously the Republicans proposed a good slate of America First-style members for that commission, and Nancy Pelosi said no.
	And I think at that point they had the option of going along and putting some acceptable RINO-style Republicans on the commission that Nancy would let through, or making a principled stand, which it was principled-ish and a thing.
	That McCarthy did, and he said, no, if you as the majority or the speaker can tell me who my members are to put on a joint commission, then it's not a joint commission and I won't, you know, dignify it by acceding to you getting to choose for me.
	So it was a kind of a tactical and strategic move to make a stand there.
	How it worked out, though, was to allow the left to have hearsay evidence and no adversarial cross-examination and basically turn it into, like you said, the comedy hour, clown show, witch trial, kangaroo court garbage show that it is.
	So did it work?
	Nah, not really, but they didn't really have much they could do.
	Now, on your second question, that gets into a pretty deep moral quandary, because we want to say that a woman's right to choose, the left would tell you, is absolute.
	But then they also want to say that if they want child support, then the man's responsible for that.
	Well, what if the woman wants to kill the baby and the man doesn't?
	You know, so I think there is a very deep moral and ethical issue right there around a simple fact that, first of all, why are we talking about killing babies as the solution to this situation?
	And if we take that out of play, then I think both parents, from the point of conception or viability, wherever we decide to make it, have an equal stake And have an equal responsibility.
	And I think if you do that, I think men have to pull their weight, but they also can't be frozen out of the ability to have decision-making authority on that.
	Yes, they aren't even told many times when the woman is pregnant or she's going to have an abortion.
	I have two sons.
	I would hate for this to happen to them and not know.
	But if the woman carries it full term and she doesn't want the baby, give it to the father.
	And that's, you know, the way things are, it's actually interesting.
	And you know, the second we did anything like that, they'd be running around in their handmade costumes saying, Aha!
	We knew!
	You know, we had these red choir robes for a reason.
	I don't know what the right answer to that is, you know?
	I mean, because it really is a difficult question.
	If you make a very, very red line and say, you cannot conduct abortions.
	That is no longer necessary.
	And then you've got to decide whether the morning after pill is an abortion.
	But if you do that, then I think you're in a position where you can say, if the woman doesn't want the baby, great!
	Then the father has first rights to it.
	You know, and I think that's fair.
	And I think even if the woman doesn't want the father to have rights to it, then that's for a court to decide.
	You know, that's the kind of situation where you're having a essentially, you know, a custody battle over a child.
	And while that may be ugly and difficult, Is it not better than killing the baby?
	Is it not better than not giving that child a chance at life and snuffing out a human life?
	I don't think so.
	So I think those are wonderfully important things to think about.
	And I think as we look at who has both responsibility and authority and rights in those cases, we can't forget men because they helped, they made half that baby.
	And I think that means you're responsible for it and you have a say in the life of that child before and once they're born.
	So thanks!
	That was wonderful, Nancy.
	Good luck in California.
	I think you're doing a good job just living well in enemy territory.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio, and we'll be back after the break with more winning and more fun.
	All right.
	All right.
	Did you have any left, Jeff?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What do we got?
	We got five o'clock, right?
	We got John Schweppe.
	And he'll be here.
	so yeah bingo
	bingo And I don't want the government spying on us.
	I don't.
	But I think at some level we have to accept that there is a level of surveillance that is Acceptable, given a reasonable threat.
	Now, their idea was always, we will scarf up all the information, but we won't look at it unless we have a really good reason.
	Come on!
	I don't trust them.
	I mean, nobody should trust the government.
	They are the least trustworthy organization that I'm aware of.
	But we do need the ability to, because if you don't collect it and then you can't get it, what happens if we've got a major threat to the country?
	Right.
	The default now is that they will spy on us and we just have to trust that they won't do things that we don't really want them to do.
	And I don't really like that.
	I think that's a bad one.
	All right.
	Yeah, but then they don't know what you were saying.
	I'm just agreeing with random things.
	Give a shout out to the guy who had the chaos guy.
	Read his things again, because I agree with both those comments.
	He's trying to get our guest.
	Somebody's got to be a producer.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	There we go, comms are up.
	Alright.
	Now, does it look like we're gonna get Lucia for this next segment?
	Jeff says if we can't, we'll just get her on phone.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm trying to do Skype, but if it's about 30 seconds, I'm just gonna call.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to find ChaosProdigy's original comment.
	I think I got the second one, but yeah.
	Very good points.
	That's a very nuanced take there.
	Down to the wire.
	Will we get to guest?
	She's probably going to be phone, just when it gets down to the wire like this we just get them on phone instead of Skype because Skype is a bit of a hassle sometimes.
	Skype's run by evil people too.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's Jim Hansen, former Green Beret A man who knows how to win civil wars without firing a shot.
	Or if you have to, that as well.
	Hey folks, I am Jim Hanson, and I did write a book called Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot, and I've talked with Seb about it at length, and if you haven't read it or bought it, it is a pretty good book.
	I think it's not the worst thing I've ever done.
	It has a lot of information about where we were, how we got here, and how we can get out of this mess.
	So keep that in mind as you're looking for paths to the power of a republic returned.
	Well, hey, I want to talk now.
	I'm not seeing smiles from Jeff yet.
	He's still messing with the phones.
	But I want to tell you one of the things that I think has been refreshing for me recently has been the return of Latinos to the Republican side.
	And I say return because there have always been a strong segment of the Latino population who believe in God and responsibility and hard work and all of the things that we on the right have always believed in.
	And they've been there.
	They haven't always been the loudest.
	They haven't always been, you know, a vocal segment of the community that we could rely on, you know, when it came to that.
	But one thing that has been happening over the past couple of years is in the elections we've seen, guess what numbers are going up?
	Latino voters, not Latinx voters or however you say that.
	Not any of the silly things that the left wants to do and to use them, you know, as an identity politics group that they can play with.
	Those people share our values.
	They're part of our country and they're voting with us now.
	So we have a member of a new organization that I am very I'm thrilled to introduce you, if you haven't heard of them, called Americano Media, that is speaking from a conservative viewpoint to the Latino community.
	And joining us now is Lucia Navarro, an award-winning journalist from Americano.
	And Lucia, I'm glad we finally got you on.
	It was my fault, but good to hear from you.
	Oh, it is a pleasure.
	Thank you, Jim, for the invitation.
	We're very happy to be with you and very happy to share the news of Who Americano is and what is our purpose with all the Latino community and the whole community in the United States.
	Well, and that's just it.
	You guys are speaking in Spanish, which we have historically been bad at.
	You know, I mean, most Americans know exactly none languages.
	We're marginally competent in English.
	But now we've got people in their own language hearing the views that Mirror their beliefs.
	Mirror their beliefs in God and country and entrepreneurship and all that.
	So tell us how it's going at Americano Media.
	I know it's going well.
	I want to hear how well.
	Well, it is very well, let me tell you, because as you just said, we explain Latinos the real views of the politics in the U.S.
	We do not believe that all Latinos are Democrats because they think that they are the party that are going to really fight for them.
	We do not believe that.
	And we're sure that many Latinos are just blind.
	I mean, they don't understand that the values that we share as Latinos, those that we were raised with, are Republican values.
	I mean, family, God, law, order.
	I mean, those are our values everywhere.
	And this is what Americano wants to do, just tell Latinos where things are really, uh, the Republican side.
	I mean, there's a lot of things that we're doing.
	We are doing right now, um, podcasts, broadcasts in Channel 153.
	Very soon we're going to have video.
	And we're going to speak the news in Espanol.
	We are not reporting the news from a government press release.
	We are not.
	all the offers that they're putting on the table, and we're gonna let them decide what is best for them.
	We are not reporting the news from a government press release.
	We are not, as a lot of the media, the majority of the media in this country.
	We like digging for the news.
	We like asking questions because we know our people, Latinos, want answers.
	And this is what we're looking for.
	Answers for them.
	And you said that you guys are broadcasting SiriusXM, it's channel 153, you said, right?
	Correct.
	And I know you guys are building a super cool studio because I have friends down there who are part of your organization.
	And you guys are putting together essentially a TV competitor that's going to take on Univision, right?
	That is correct.
	So we have all the elements to give a very, very good fight to any other media that is out there.
	We have a beautiful studio coming up, and that's going to be ready in a couple of weeks.
	So stay tuned, because we're going to share the news with you guys.
	And people, it's not going to miss anything from the other networks.
	Because we have everything state-of-the-art, you know, the cream of the crop.
	You've got a lot of quality journalists like yourself and others who have come from the other Hispanic and Latino networks, but who now see the fact that you guys have built the one thing that was missing, A non-leftist filtered channel, and I think that's phenomenal.
	So I appreciate what you're doing, and we will do everything we can.
	I know we've had Ivan on the show before, Ivan Garcia Hidalgo, who is a stud.
	He was a Trump fighter.
	We love most of the people involved with your organization.
	So make sure that when you guys have the launch, we can be part of that.
	And God bless you guys for bringing the message and taking it to the streets to see it.
	It's fantastic.
	And thanks for being on the show.
	Thank you very much for the invitation.
	And yes, we will let you know about everything that we're doing, all the progress we're doing, because we need the Anglo community in this country to understand what we are trying to do and the Latino community to understand what we are doing for them.
	This is an effort that at the end of the line is going to improve people's lives.
	It's going to give them a better, better quality lifestyle.
	And it's going to be it's going to be great.
	That's something that I can tell you.
	We're not racist knuckle-dragging troglodytes.
	We're Americans who love liberty-loving Americans.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	Thanks for being here, Lucy.
	You fill me with hope.
	So I appreciate it.
	That's why we're winning, folks, because our message resonates with everybody.
	We're not racist knuckle dragging troglodytes.
	We're Americans who love liberty loving Americans.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	We'll be back after the break.
	All right, Mike's on.
	So I got a short segment then for Top of the Hour, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, what should we talk about?
	Well, let's see.
	Like Jeff said, it's a little bit slow these days, news-wise.
	We got the California AG gun owner thing.
	That was pretty heinous.
	Did they respond to what happened with their excuse yet?
	Somebody was saying it literally was an accident.
	I don't believe that for a second.
	Of all the things that leak, think about that database.
	Yeah, that was definitely on purpose.
	But here's the thing, if you think about it, it's a database of a lot of concealed carry holders.
	Who is that in California?
	That's their friends!
	You know, if you've got a carry permit from those guys, you're one of the bad guys.
	Yeah, there's a ridiculous number of judges on there, I saw.
	Right, which, okay, I'm fine.
	Yeah, I think all judges.
	I don't understand why a judge even has to ask, you know?
	Doesn't that come with the robe?
	Should come with, like, a little holster.
	But then again, some judges definitely should have no business carrying a weapon like, you know, an Emmett Sullivan-type judge.
	Right, well, some judges have no business being judges.
	Yeah, but they somehow end up there.
	Adam Kinzinger.
	Oh, I need to do a, uh... I should knock out this Salem read.
	Yes.
	So this is, what, like, three and a half minutes?
	Yes.
	Yeah, three and a half minutes.
	Shout out again to ChaosProdigy.
	My mic was off during that last break.
	Your nuanced take about how Snowden basically leaked the blueprints of the government when he could have just said, like, hey, they're spying on you, without being specific about it.
	I was agreeing with you when I was agreeing with an empty voice when we were doing this in the previous break.
	Yeah, that happens sometimes.
	Gotta, I gotta say this one, Jim.
	This is from Jabari, the same user who commented on your camo.
	Digging my camo.
	A running joke is that when Seb gets a call he doesn't like, he uses the word cretin.
	So, apparently it's a drinking game in our chat, and Jabari says, I want to hear Jim Hansen say the word cretin.
	I haven't had any cretins on yet, though.
	Not yet.
	I think Seb's got a much lower bar for cretin than I do.
	He likes to get outraged.
	I mean, you know what I mean?
	It's a hobby for him.
	Alright.
	What am I going to talk about?
	I think I'm going to do the California.
	Yep.
	Because we've got to talk about gun ownership.
	Gun ownership in America in 2022.
	I have a quota.
	Although the NRA's never paid me a dime.
	I paid them.
	I'm a life member, you know?
	You'd think all the good I've done for them, they would toss me as you.
	Thank you.
	On behalf of the Nugent family and all working hard, playing hard, American families in the asset column, thank you for driving home truth, logic, and common sense every day.
	We are with you.
	America first.
	Magnificent.
	Hearing Ted Nugent talking makes me want to get out my longbow and shoot squirrels in my backyard, which I'm not saying I do that Arlington County.
	Anyhow, this is Jim Hanson, and I want to talk now, let's get serious for a moment, because the fight for the unborn is raging in our country.
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	Yeah, I was gonna do guns, but I think this is kind of important.
	We had a talk with our caller from California who brought up a good point.
	What is the responsibility of men when you get down to the situation of abortion or not abortion?
	Do they get a say?
	Are they responsible for 18 years of child support?
	And one of the things I find Normally, horrifyingly apt for the left is one of the first arguments they made as soon as Roe v. Wade was overturned was, okay, now all you guys are responsible for 18 years of child support.
	And my answer to that was, good!
	You know, what kind of a man would not want to support a child they brought into this world?
	That's not a man.
	All right, that may be a man in the left, you know, and there may be a problem on the left with the belief that, oh, they don't have a responsibility if the woman just takes the child out.
	And to be honest, one of the biggest problems in the black community has been the lack of responsibility fathers for the children that they bring into this world fatherlessness is a crime in my opinion
	so I don't I don't have any issue at all with the idea that if you help conceive a baby then you are responsible for both the cost and and the the lifestyle and the rearing and everything to to make that child's life a positive thing and And if you don't believe that, then I think you are reducing your humanity.
	I don't think you're living up to the responsibility of being a decent human being.
	So be better.
	And yeah, the left will pay the child support because that's the right thing to do.
	This is Jim Hansen.
	This is still America First Radio.
	We are still winning.
	And we're going to talk next segment with John Schweppe about how we're going to win against the tech tyrants.
	Back after the break.
	All right.
	- Right.
	Mics are on.
	He's gonna be here at like five after so it'll be... Wrap the wire.
	It's not any fun unless it's a tightrope act, right?
	That is the nature of live radio.
	I like it.
	And this is live TV.
	Come on.
	I'm doing this for the Rumble crowd, man.
	The radio listeners can't hear us right now, so we can talk smack about them, right?
	The cool kids are on Rumble.
	And you know what I hate?
	Every time the music's playing, the bumper music, they're not hearing that.
	I know, that's the worst.
	Well, because that's what screwed us over on YouTube previously, is copyrighted songs that we were playing.
	That's one of the great perks of working at radios.
	You have the licensing fees paid to use basically any music ever.
	I thought YouTube had deals with all the stations so you could do that, but you can't use it because I used to make videos and I could use it for, you know, intro music or whatever.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I don't know.
	It all started with, um, well, cause how it all got started.
	If I don't know if you remember this, but, um, one of the two intros, we have that historical intro, which is, if you can hear it, that's the Apollo 11 soundtrack in the background.
	But then we had another intro recorded that was basically a dramatic reading of Seb's life story, played over Imagine Dragons Radioactive.
	And that was our theme song for like the first year.
	And then finally, Dan Reynolds, the singer of Imagine Dragons, found out Seb was using the song and he threw a bitch fit because he's a lefty.
	It was like, he's a neo-Nazi using my song!
	So he tagged Universal like a little bitch and then like basically cried to YouTube about it.
	And then YouTube just started taking down our videos left and right.
	And we were like scrambling to like delete Whatever.
	usage of the song but it was too late they were dinging us for videos before he found out about it so yeah it was so stupid we had like 100 000 subscribers well we uh i i think twitter needs to Why wouldn't they want to get paid?
	Quit being whiners.
	Your job is to sell your music.
	Wasn't that a big controversy with Rush using the Pretenders song that he always used?
	The Pretenders didn't like him using that song, but then he eventually settled legally and kept doing it.
	Losers.
	When I first started making videos, I used to always use the Clash and Rage Against the Machine because it would make the lefty heads explode.
	And I like the music.
	I mean, that's just the thing.
	I always said if I didn't have gay people, dead junkies, and leftists, I would have no music.
	I mean, who is there?
	I'm not dogging the conservative artists.
	But, and the nice thing is, now you talk about Rush, I thought you were talking about Rush the band.
	That's one of my favorite things.
	Neil Peart was a libertarian.
	He literally gave credit on 2112 to Ayn Rand.
	for inspiring the temples of Syrinx-like priests who are taking care of everything, the words you read, the songs you sing, the pictures that give pleasure to your eye.
	I mean, that's a purely anti-statist song, and I love that about him.
	I definitely love the idea of just using the Luffy's music just to piss him off.
	Like now, we gotta start using Green Day songs now, because that one guy, their singer, he's like- He better go.
	I see him back in the United States, I'm checking his visa.
	I just remember, even as a kid, I was in, like, middle school, I think, when, uh, American Idiot came out, and that was, like, such a huge pop culture moment, and I remember there was even the parody song by Weird Al, uh, Canadian Idiot.
	Like, it was just such a huge deal.
	Because, obviously, that's an anti-Bush song.
	That was kind of, like, the national anthem of the anti-Bush, anti-war crowd at the time.
	I think when you have a song called American Idiot you're talking about yourself at some level you know all songs are self-referential and any good honest songwriter will say that so Billy Joe Scumbag whatever his name is I don't know what his name is And they got that other one where they're in a mental hospital.
	Their big song, wasn't it?
	Their video shows them in a mental hospital.
	I'm like, dude, self-referential again.
	Well, my favorite album of all time is Pink Floyd's The Wall, and Roger Waters absolutely based a lot of elements of that on his own life story.
	Everything from being so sick at an overseas concert that he had to shoot himself up full of drugs in order to perform.
	Yeah, well, it's a thing.
	All the best music and art comes from pain.
	Oh, that's an interesting take.
	Yeah, it hurts me, because I look at all of the artists that I like the most, and then I do, I look at the dead junkies.
	How many of them are dead junkies?
	Why were they junkies?
	You know, they were junkies because they had pain, and it's hard to look at.
	Sid Barrett, yeah, so true.
	Alright, he's going, he should be here in like a minute or two.
	I can riff.
	I'm going to play that PhD weight loss thing as well.
	Ah, there you go, buy us an extra minute.
	Yeah, I've got to do that anyway.
	If all music comes from pain, then Mozart must have been one of the most tortured people in history.
	He was.
	I mean, he was.
	And Beethoven, you know, all of them.
	It's there.
	Well, that's upbeat, huh?
	Hey!
	That's one of the dilemmas, I think.
	If I knew I was going to have a horrible disability for the rest of my life between blindness and being deaf, I would probably choose blind because the idea of me not being able to listen to music anymore would just drive me insane.
	Yeah, but if I was deaf, I'd never have to listen to a liberal again.
	You don't have to listen.
	That's what headphones are for.
	I'd hate to be blind, would suck.
	That would suck, that would suck, yeah.
	No, they're both terrible, but like, I gotta, I gotta have my music, man.
	I gotta have my music.
	Yeah, I'd be hard pressed.
	I have a I have a music room that has what I call the system of the gods in it.
	That is a stereo.
	It's a surround listening system.
	Now it's actually a Dolby Atmos listening system.
	And it's it's one of the most absurd setups in the world.
	But it sounds so good that I bring people over to my house to make them hate their own systems.
	Because it's just it's just that good.
	Once you've experienced that, like, system, yeah, you'll never go back.
	You might as well not even go to movie theater anymore after that.
	I like, because I'm at home, you know, literally, it's the sound is as good or better because I've got it tuned for the sweet spot where I sit.
	And in the theater, you know, you've not only got other people and you can't pause the movie, but you're not in the sweet spot.
	So, no, I, uh, I dig it.
	Batnf, uh, this is a username I can never pronounce in Rumble Chat.
	Batnf19Nuchatl says, Jim Hansen's shirt is Swedish M90 camo for those interested.
	Is that true?
	Is that correct?
	You know, now as I've put myself up as the camouflage expert, I can't say for sure but I can find out.
	I will tell you, it's the most expensive shirt I own because my wife bought it and it's a Tom Ford designer shirt.
	So I can look it up.
	Ooh, okay.
	It's stupid expensive.
	Is that the guy who used to be the mayor of Toronto?
	Not that guy.
	Aw, I miss that guy.
	I miss him so much.
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	Hey folks, Jim Hansen.
	I am glad that Seb is happy with the PhD weight loss program.
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	I want to start this segment by, I guess, setting the groundwork for what I want to do to take back our information space.
	We right now, and I can say this, I'm talking on a radio station right now, reaching millions of people.
	So it seems almost unfair to complain that we on the right suffer from a lack of ability to get our message out.
	But I don't think anybody listening here has not been affected in some way by the ability of the left to censor our information space.
	They control The information that reaches the American people at a level that is un-American and unacceptable.
	Okay, the fact that people are listening right now means you have to self-select and you have to find the conservative voices and get to them.
	And the people who do that are wonderful people and they're team members.
	They're active.
	They're part of the game.
	But the vast majority of Americans are passive consumers of information.
	So all they see is a newspaper headline.
	All they see is a chyron when they walk past the television.
	Or they've got the news on in the background.
	And even if it's Fox News, that's no longer legitimately conservative.
	So there's no mass messaging going out to anyone in America that is not put through a leftist filter.
	And that's especially egregious when you look at all of the online information.
	If you look at what Google and Facebook control as far as the amount of advertising and the ability to control what messages go out, you cannot ask a question on the internet anywhere and get a message back that has not been put through their leftist filter.
	And that's unacceptable.
	Like I said, how is America supposed to make decisions in a political campaign?
	How are we supposed to learn what's actually happening in our country and in the world if the information we have is so slanted in one direction that it doesn't even vaguely resemble reality?
	And I know the people I'm talking to right now took the time to find an outlet that would tell them the truth.
	And Seb is a truth teller.
	He is the giant booming baritone with a British accent who will tell you the truth.
	But he's one of the few.
	You know, there are very few.
	And now we've got situations, if you look back to the last election, there was a story that came out about Hunter Biden's laptop.
	Okay, this is the perfect example of what the left can do to influence an election successfully.
	That story came out on October 14th, 2020.
	And all of a sudden, everyone's, oh my god, it's an October surprise.
	You know, it's not true.
	Immediately when the New York Post dropped that story, the propaganda machines and the power of the left went on full display.
	The immediate reaction was it was hacked.
	That this was not real information.
	It was hacked.
	It was stolen.
	It was unverified.
	They put all those stories out immediately.
	Now, the information that was coming out came from Hunter Biden's laptop.
	That he took to a repair shop.
	That he gave to a gentleman named John Paul Mac Isaac to fix.
	And when he fixed it, he saw that there was all kinds of heinous Drugs and pornography on it, and things that Hunter could go to jail for, but also that there were suspect conversations with foreign nations.
	And he tried to turn it over to the FBI and the authorities.
	When they didn't take it, he gave it to Rudy Giuliani, who gave it to the New York Post.
	Well, once that happened and the New York Post started reporting the illegal activity by Hunter Biden and Joe Biden that is on that laptop and unmistakable, the left shut it down.
	They got it.
	They got the story crushed.
	They shut down the New York Post on Twitter and Facebook.
	Shut down and suspended their account because they reported the truth about Biden and the left couldn't have the chance of Trump winning to be a possibility.
	If that story had been covered the way it was supposed to be covered, it would have been a deal breaker for far too many Americans.
	They would have reacted to that and said, OK, wait, you know, I may have problems with Trump.
	I may not like him.
	You know, I may have mean tweet issues.
	But this is a guy who was literally helping his son sell out the United States of America to foreigners.
	They were, they were literally, Joe was taking Hunter along on trips, Hunter was making the sale, and then Joe was taking meetings with Hunter's clients from Ukraine and Russia and China and other places.
	And all of this was available for people to see and when it came out they started First of all, calling it hacked and stolen and unverified.
	And then next, they went with a disinformation campaign.
	The left did, calling it Russian disinformation.
	How egregious is that?
	They literally invented a lie that the laptop contained Russian disinformation so that they didn't have to accept the fact that it was actually going to shut down their candidate.
	So a disinformation campaign calling it Russian disinformation on top of a censorship that was across all of the social media companies.
	All of the tech tyrants were involved with it.
	The Biden campaign was involved.
	The deep state bureaucracy was involved by ignoring this and not letting it come out.
	And all of them colluded to influence an election in the United States of America.
	Did it change the outcome of the election?
	I have a hard time believing it didn't.
	Because if that information had come out and not been suppressed, and Americans had had the opportunity to weigh Joe Biden as a corrupt America-selling loser who let his family profit from his position as Vice President, I'm not sure a lot of them would have come out no matter how much they disliked Donald Trump.
	And I think a lot more people who had to say, well, maybe Trump didn't do what I like, but at least he's not selling our country out.
	Because every time they tried to pin that on Trump, he managed to show that he was not doing that and got acquitted.
	So I don't think the situation where the tech companies and the major corporate regime lapdog palace scribe media can go ahead and decide what information is fit for consumption by Americans is a situation we can tolerate any longer.
	Now, what can we do about it?
	That's a different question because these are private companies in most cases.
	In the case of the Biden story, I think there was some collusion with government officials and Biden campaign officials that we're going to hear about.
	And I'll just tease a little bit the fact that we are working on a project right now that is going to expose some of that collusion.
	But what can we do about the other companies?
	What can we do about the fact that Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and YouTube and Google decide that conservative stories and conservative voices can be shut down and they will be the deciders of that?
	Well, that's something we have to find a way that's acceptable both to our free enterprise, capitalistic nature, our Constitution, and the laws we have in place.
	And I'm not sure what the answer is.
	I don't like government intervention.
	But if anyone who tells me they don't have a monopoly, I would have to disagree with.
	So we're going to have to find a way to deal with all those issues.
	And we need to break that information monopoly.
	We need to level the playing field.
	And we need to make sure that our ideas don't just go out the few conservative outlets that we have.
	America has a right to make their decisions based on the full array of information available.
	And I think now is the time to figure out how to do that.
	Well, we're going to bring on a guest right after this, John Schweppe, who works on this issue, and we're going to talk with him and see what we actually have as the art of the possible, and how do we break the grip of the tech tyrants on our information space, level the playing field, and let conservative voices be heard.
	And I think that's a vital issue.
	That's what we're going to do.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We'll be back with the America First plan to bust the tech tyrants.
	Did you say your iPod?
	My iPad.
	Okay.
	Dude, I was like, if you still got an iPod, I don't think you can talk about the Internet.
	It's a historical artifact.
	You know, Ken Bucko is actually a total, uh, doesn't use any of the tech stuff, and he's like the big anti-tech guy in the house.
	He's a Luddite.
	Hey, Jim, let them know the mic's live on Rumble.
	Yeah, and mics are live on Rumble, so the streamers can hear us, but they love this.
	We tell all the good stories during the break.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because that's why.
	Dude, I'm glad you're here because I want to fix this.
	Any good ideas?
	And we'll just run through all of it.
	I want to talk a little bit about Elon and Twitter.
	That's a hope for us.
	All of the monopoly in Section 230, I don't smell the answer there.
	And I want to explore some new avenues.
	You look good, man.
	You got the suit on.
	Thanks.
	I had Hill meetings all day.
	Good, good.
	Dude, if you're on the Hill... No, it's busy.
	Well, actually, on that front.
	We're really trying to get the Republicans to...
	Okay, what are you actually going to do next year?
	Yeah, because you do something, and I don't care.
	At this point, kind of what I want is, I don't care if it ends up being legal.
	Make them fight back.
	I don't care what it is.
	Do something as painful as you can make it for them.
	Damage them unless you're going to make them fight back.
	That's how they do it to us.
	Well, I'll talk about this, but I mean, that's a big part of the theory here, right?
	Is like what Ron DeSantis did with Disney in Florida, right?
	Like, you got to show these guys you mean business.
	And then all of a sudden, they're going to start reacting to you.
	They're going to be like, oh no, like, did we censor too much?
	We're so sorry.
	And that's what they do to Democrats right now.
	Scare their investors.
	Right.
	That's not the same thing with Disney.
	Right.
	Part of the reaction from Disney is the big money was like, whoa, hold on a second there, big shooter.
	You know, we can't have you killing the bottom line for wokeness.
	So, I mean, it's a fine line, and these guys... You saw that with their new movie, right?
	The Lightyear movie didn't do well at all?
	No, it crashed and burned.
	It's because people don't want that.
	They don't want that.
	You know, and the amount of people who do, they're a small segment of that audience, you know?
	Disney movies are... They've always been slightly more conservative, you know?
	So, I don't know.
	I think... I'm the eternal optimist, because I don't see how we lose, even though we're losing.
	Your book is, what is it, The Second Civil War?
	Winning the Second Civil War.
	But without firing a shot.
	I mean, I think that's the goal here, right?
	And you've got to hurt them, but in order to avoid that, we have to use everything at our disposal.
	And I don't care.
	Make them fight back in court.
	Sue them.
	Sue them, make them defend it.
	And if you get enough lawsuits in enough states, you know, then they're like, is it worth it?
	You know, go places where we've got the power and use the power there.
	And I think we've been too hesitant.
	There's always that, oh, we must have the moral high ground.
	What will I tell my friends at the country club?
	They'll be poo-pooing me.
	And with the tech, there's too much waiting for Musta to buy Twitter, and I don't think he's buying it.
	So really, he's not going to do it?
	Don't blaspheme.
	I just look at the stock right now.
	I mean, the markets don't think.
	It's at $37, where everything's tanking.
	No, but it's been there since the thing.
	What he's gonna do is he's gonna break on it for the bots.
	That's what he's been doing, and that's why he's silent.
	At this point, if Elon doesn't do it, it'll be a blow to his ego.
	Yeah, he's gotta win.
	He's too arrogant.
	He's too arrogant.
	our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	I I am welcomed as the special guest host, Jim Hansen, and I am joined by John Schweppe from the American Principals Project, someone who is fighting the good fight, who comes in his suit with his tennis shoes.
	Did you wear those tennis shoes on the hill?
	I did.
	Oh, yes!
	That's the kind of guy we need fighting for our rights on the internet, is a guy who will wear a suit and tennis shoes.
	Because it's D.C.
	in the summer, right?
	It's hot.
	It's hot.
	Your feet could melt otherwise.
	Alright, I want to talk with you about what we can do to break the monopoly of the tech tyrants on America's information space.
	And there's been, you know, too much weasely crying about, oh, we can't do anything, and we don't want to break monopolies, and, oh, Section 230 won't really change anything if we repeal it.
	I'm done with that.
	I want to start, if you could do one thing today, you could walk up and wave your magic John Schweppe wand to break that logjam, what would you do?
	Ooh, that's a good question.
	Well, I will tell you, I think the concentrated power is the real problem here, right?
	The fact that these companies are so dominant, the fact that, you know, we look at Parler.
	Parler was a competitor.
	It was succeeding.
	And the fact that Amazon and Apple and Google were all able to collude to shut it down, I think that's the problem here.
	And if we had 10 Googles and 10 Facebooks, I don't think the censorship regime would be as much of a problem.
	It's tough because I, you know, Section 230, I know it's something everyone goes to, but in an ideal world, I do think a Section 230 that basically said, you know, look, we're not going to give you guys any sort of special benefit unless you respect free speech online, I think that would be really powerful and effective.
	But just to be honest with your listeners, I mean, we need 60 votes in the Senate to get there, and Democrats obviously hate free speech, so that's going to be pretty challenging.
	They despise free speech, and that's part of the problem.
	So, all right.
	So let's go with the assumption that now we're going to go back to trying to work within the rules, within the lanes that we have.
	I want to think about ways to make their influence on the elections is, I think, an area where we can use the FEC, the FTC, and the FCC in conjunction if we ever get executive control and the FCC in conjunction if we ever get executive control Is there a way to say, during elections, which is continual now, You have to have some sort of fairness doctrine.
	You can't simply do what they did with Hunter's laptop, as I was talking about, and crush the story because it might hurt your guy.
	Is that a way we may be able to weasel free speech in because all ideas like that are related to elections?
	So we do have campaign finance rules in this country, and our organization actually filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission after the election in 2020, you know, making the argument, look, when Facebook takes down our Super PACs ads, but they leave them up for Democrats, or they leave them up for the Democratic candidate, that's an in-kind contribution.
	Absolutely.
	That should be prosecutable.
	And so I think really we need to look at that.
	The FEC is not interested in that interpretation of the law right now.
	So I think we might need an act of Congress.
	But certainly that makes sense.
	We don't want corporations putting their thumb on the dial and really determining which candidate is going to win or which is going to lose illegitimately.
	I mean, if they're going to fund it through PACs or whatever, that's one thing, that's speech.
	But when they're going to suppress others, when they're going to try to cheat the rules, which is what we saw in a major way in 2020, that's no good.
	And they've got control.
	Right now, you cannot get an idea that they disagree with into play if they decide not to.
	Now, you said a word I liked.
	And Seb and I have talked about this a bunch.
	I'm sick of hearings.
	I'm sick of any of it.
	We're all sick of it.
	I want prosecutions.
	I want indictments.
	You said prosecutable.
	Is an illegal in-kind contribution prosecutable?
	And is that against a corporation?
	How do we do that?
	Yeah, so the FEC has the power to levy huge fines and they can go after these corporations.
	So, you know, that's something if you're a Republican candidate, especially in the past, you got to be really careful with your FEC filings.
	You can't screw this up.
	Or if you're a business owner, you want to make sure that you're doing everything legitimate because they can come after you.
	And so, you know, this is just another organ of the administrative state that's been used historically against Republicans more than Democrats.
	But I think we need to use it.
	I think we need to recognize we do have this campaign finance law.
	All the corporations seem to be against us on this, so let's go after them if they're going to interfere.
	And they seem to want to.
	They've been getting away with it.
	That's part of it.
	They have had nobody pushing back, and that's part of it on us.
	We had a Trump administration that owned all the executive agencies and had Congress for long enough to do something.
	So is that the next time we get there?
	And let's start.
	You know, people say we can't do anything until we get the executive.
	Well, they got the money, all right, that those executive agencies spend.
	So let's put into the budget congressional staffers like the ones John Schweppe was talking to today.
	Let's put in provisions that say you can't spend money or you have to spend money looking into these violations and you can't spend it on this before we get the executive to prep the battlefield.
	That's how we start, right?
	We absolutely could do that.
	Congress has the power of the purse.
	They could do that easily.
	I mean, it's always challenging, but I think that's something we needed to do.
	Something else he touched on is the Trump administration.
	I always liken President Trump to, you know, he outperformed.
	Nobody expected him to do as much as he possibly could.
	He's kind of like a sports team.
	I'll take the NBA.
	I know nobody watches the NBA anymore.
	You know, if you have a team that outperforms and makes the playoffs, but it's their first time there, they don't tend to win very many series.
	They don't win the championship very often.
	But the next year or the year after that, they get back there, then they have that experience, that playoff experience where they can go win the championship.
	And that's what we need for 2024, right?
	So whether it's Trump, whether it's DeSantis or someone, you know, we've seen what happened Where the administrative state fought against Trump's appointees and did everything they could to obstruct them, these people are ready.
	And some of the people I talked to today, we were talking exactly about that.
	There are people in waiting right now who are in Trump's administration who are plotting, okay, how can we go in there day one and really mess these guys up?
	And it's pretty exciting stuff.
	That makes me feel good because I can tell you when the transition was going on for the Trump administration, I helped.
	We had a list, and I don't care if people want to play McCarthyist games.
	Of course we had a list.
	We had a list of people who were deep state plants, who were bad, and this was specifically in national security and foreign policy, and who should be removed.
	On day one.
	And then we had a list of people who were good to replace them.
	And the problem was, we didn't have that exercise.
	We had not had those levers of power before.
	And our team failed miserably in removing the bad people and putting in good ones.
	And even if you don't have someone to replace them, an empty chair is better than an enemy.
	You know, there's way too many people in government already.
	So it's good to hear that you've got people who are doing that.
	Is there anything you're looking at in the next immediate term?
	You know, legislation or anything?
	So I think, you know, first and foremost, we have to recognize Biden is the president, so we're not going to pass anything.
	But I do think it's important for us to play the game and go through the motions and pass legislation.
	A lot of times McConnell especially doesn't even like to take votes on bills when it's politically good for us.
	And so I think right away we should have a Section 230 bill that we all can agree on that we think is good, pass it through the House when we take back the House, and then try to push for a vote in the Senate.
	Even if the Democrats vote it down, that's a win because then we can go into the 2024 cycle and say, vote for Trump, vote for DeSantis if you care about free speech, right?
	- Put 'em on the record. - Right, exactly, exactly.
	So I think that's step number one.
	The other thing, you know, there's been a lot of hubbub about all these antitrust bills.
	And my group has supported them.
	I know some groups on the right don't support them because they've been led by some Democrats, and I understand that.
	But we have seen Republicans like Mike Lee, like Marsha Blackburn and others, come out with their own versions of antitrust bills.
	And I think that's where we've got to get as Republicans now.
	Okay, we agree we want to break them up.
	We're just maybe not sure what the enforcement mechanism should be.
	We've got to take a break and do the commercials thing.
	But let's talk about the next one.
	And I want to talk about my boy Elon because he's buying Twitter and I don't want to hear anything about it.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	We'll be back with John Schweppe after the break.
	Both bet and invested.
	So he's got to.
	Or he cost me money.
	Yeah, Twitter's at like 38 or 37 a share.
	But it's been there since.
	No, no, that's the thing.
	But think about it.
	Nobody really thinks he's buying it.
	- He's gonna get a deal. - But think about it.
	Nobody really thinks he's buying it.
	You'd make a 40% return right now. - You know, the reason it's a good deal, first of all, he'll get a break because he's right about the bots and that was a play.
	And once they do that, the strike price will go down into the high 40s probably somewhere in there.
	And he'll probably gouge some more controls.
	He'll reign the board in, he'll do a bunch of stuff like that immediately that I think will make it worthwhile to him.
	So I don't think both from an ego perspective and from a he actually believes in that, he's going to let it go.
	And I think that's why he's silent.
	He hasn't tweeted in like a week plus.
	Oh, wow.
	I guess I haven't noticed that.
	No.
	And I mean, he's got a he loves it's not like he's worried about the SEC because it's like, what are you going to find me?
	Yeah, here you go.
	I had that in the ashtray of my Tesla.
	So he's not worried about that.
	But he's been silent for more than a week.
	Either they're doing something fancy at SpaceX, or there's good news coming.
	I don't care which it is.
	Both would be cool.
	We just gotta have one.
	You know what I mean?
	We need one place to have as a way to fight back.
	Plus, I don't do any other social media than Twitter.
	And I miss it.
	There was a point in time where I was getting 30 million impressions a month.
	And now I get 4 or 5.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you've been shadowbanned.
	Oh, big time.
	They actually had, there was a considerable period of time where they had a filter over my profile.
	Oh, yeah.
	So literally all my tweets came with the warning that this may contain sensitive content.
	And then if you didn't already follow me and you went to my Twitter page, you know, you just typed in my handle, it popped up a warning.
	Wow.
	Warning, this account is known for posting sensitive content.
	Do you, are you sure you want to visit it?
	That's incredible.
	I know, and that was for a year and a half.
	Wow.
	They've just done horrendous things.
	That's why he has to win, because otherwise my long slog through the swamps— Yeah, it'll be vindication for you.
	I know, I know.
	It'll be good.
	And the reason I like Twitter and nothing else works for me is I want to argue with the left.
	They will never join.
	It's the public square.
	Right.
	No, no other social media platform is like that.
	Facebook is essentially a walled garden, right?
	Exactly.
	Facebook is friends and family, but Twitter is where you can, you know, and they still, now that Elon came back, they actually pulled some of the algorithms, they put them on and off, I think.
	But I want to be able to confront the other side and force them to speak back to it.
	And it worked for a long while.
	It worked where all the journalists, they can't stand to have someone talk smack about them and not pipe up.
	And now they've managed to hide content from them.
	And I don't think that's right.
	So I'm hopeful.
	And I'm going to remain that way until he backs out and says, eh, I got rockets to build.
	I don't think he's going to back out.
	I don't think so either.
	He knows why it's important.
	And again, I think the arrogance, he's not going to lose to those guys because the money isn't the problem.
	You know, he can gouge them on price.
	He'll get something and we'll do it.
	All right.
	Well, we'll do.
	What do we got?
	How long is this next segment?
	Uh, six minutes.
	Six minutes.
	All right.
	All right, we got time to get...
	America First...
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	I think they're done saying that.
	Hey, it's Jim Hansen.
	We are back doing the America First thing here, joined in studio with John Schweppe from American Principles Project, who is a tireless fighter for freedom on the internet, and as am I.
	And I want to talk about the only good news in as long as I can remember for a potential win for our team on that was the wild man of SpaceX and Tesla Elon Musk buying Twitter.
	Now the offers in SEC approved.
	The board approved.
	And then we hear this stuff about, but there's too many bots.
	Well, of course there are.
	Of course, Twitter was lying about that.
	And he knew that going in.
	I think he's gouging them for price.
	We talked in the break.
	You think he's going to go through with this?
	I do.
	I do.
	I think, you know, he's the richest man in the world.
	Money's no object.
	I think he recognizes what's happened with the left and how crazy they're getting and how this is dangerous.
	Frankly, it's dangerous for his business.
	You know, the White House was inviting every electric car company except for Tesla.
	- Right, the only real one. - Which is insane, like Tesla's the only one that works. - Right. - You know, so I think he recognizes the threat that poses.
	But you know, this is humanitarian, I suppose, and I think he's gonna be successful.
	But you are right, I mean, the bots on Twitter are insane, the valuation was insane, and I think he's a brilliant strategist, And so I think he knows exactly what he was going to do.
	And the Twitter board right now, they just took, you know, they got soaked by this stock market crash.
	They got to make something happen.
	They're toast.
	And I think people should pay attention.
	He hasn't tweeted in almost a week or so.
	So I think, you know, Elon's not scared of the SEC because it's not like they can find him.
	In any way that matters to him.
	But I think he went silent because they're doing the final negotiations and sink the deal.
	Sink the deal, Elon.
	And just in case you needed to push it over the edge, I'm getting solar on my house and we're getting a Tesla battery.
	Literally, I had to choose between two.
	And they're like, the other one's like 1% better.
	I'm like, no way.
	Just keep the Clintons away from him.
	Right now, we got to keep him safe.
	Security 24-7.
	I mean, this is too important.
	Okay, but what else though?
	We've got Twitter.
	Let's say we win Twitter and we've got one place to talk.
	Google and Facebook are much more egregiously in control of large swaths.
	Twitter's influential because it influences influencers.
	Google and Facebook influence the rest of the country normals.
	What do we do to free up their ability to get information that is not run through that leftist filter?
	So I will say, I think if Twitter does become a free speech platform, it will have a downstream effect on Facebook and Google because, you know, their users will notice.
	They'll notice that, oh, all of a sudden I'm seeing this news is happening on Twitter and you guys are preventing me from seeing it.
	So I do think you'll see that.
	But you're right.
	I mean, Facebook and Instagram, I mean, these are huge networks.
	Obviously, that's very important.
	Google is even more complicated because it's search, and so that's information being distilled to you, and they do all sorts of things to hide.
	So this is where I think you do need some legislation.
	You do need Congress to act.
	But one thing, and, you know, I talked with you about this in one of the breaks, you know, I think Republicans have to show a willingness to act.
	It's actually more important than acting, I think.
	And we saw that with Governor DeSantis in Florida with Disney, and all of a sudden, all these corporations were a little bit less willing to be woke.
	You're starting to see that, right?
	And so, I think that's what you've got to do and show them that, look, Google, Amazon, we're kind of looking at your business model.
	We think maybe you've been engaging in some anti-competitive stuff that's illegal.
	Maybe you should be nicer to us.
	Like, nicer on the speech side.
	Ryan Anderson's book about gender, it's pretty good.
	Like, Amazon, maybe leave it in your bookstore, right?
	And so, I think that's kind of what you gotta do, and this is what the Democrats are so good at.
	The reason why the censorship is happening so prevalently in Silicon Valley, I believe, is in part because Democrats have shown a willingness to crack down on those companies.
	And so, we gotta do the same thing.
	And they've gotten away with it.
	That's the sad thing.
	So you just act.
	Do something.
	Even if it doesn't work.
	Because then people see it.
	And you start a momentum.
	And you put the other side on defense.
	I mean, you look at the antitrust thing right now.
	Now, I'm hoping that a couple of these bills get passed, but we're in July tomorrow.
	We're running out of time.
	The Democrats have been running out the clock on this.
	The whole thing has been an op to force these companies to think that there's actually going to be something bad that happens to them, and it forces them to censor.
	And I really think that's been a big part of this.
	Well, I think I couldn't agree more that action of any kind is necessary.
	And it's not futile.
	And it's not just spinning wheels.
	And it's not just, you know, a show.
	Because every time you do it, you force the other side to react.
	And if you're not acting, they are.
	Like you said, they've been very successful with this all the way through.
	John Schweppe, American Principles Project, you guys are doing the yeoman's work.
	I thank you.
	I thank you for wearing Are those Chuck Taylors?
	Yeah.
	Thank you for wearing Chuck Taylors with your suit to talk to our Congress.
	That's what I want, man.
	So, appreciate it.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We got a couple more segments left to wrap up another day of winning, which we will never get sick of.
	We're doing America first radio and we will be back after the break.
	And then he started wearing tennis shoes and I'm like, all right, I'm going to do this.
	See, I bought some, my wife's a fashionista, that's why.
	They were joking, this is literally, I tell people, this is the most expensive shirt I own.
	But not because it's a camouflage shirt, it's literally a Tom Ford designer shirt that my wife bought.
	I don't know what it retails for, but it's a stupid number.
	But she makes me wear fancy clothes, and I find ways to do this.
	I'm like, okay, if we're going to do that, so now I got tennis shoes that go with suits and things like that, and I slide it in wherever I can.
	And I'm almost done.
	I think I'm done with ties.
	I've decided there's very few places that warrant a tie.
	Now, I understand you go to Congress and places like that, and I'm trying to decide who still warrants a tie, but it's very few.
	It's actually, even on the Hill, I don't see people wearing ties as much anymore.
	COVID, actually, that was kind of a thing that happened for me.
	People are a little more casual now.
	I'm not wearing a mask, I'm not wearing a tie.
	You're going to choke me out on my face, I'm not choking myself out around my neck.
	Well, cool, man.
	Thanks so much.
	I appreciate it.
	Let's do it again.
	I want to catch up with you though and tell you about this Hunter Biden project.
	Let's do it.
	We sicked some pretty high-speed military AI on it and so we've got all the connections of everybody who was doing the censorship and putting it out will be a great way to show just how egregious the control they have is and what they're using it for.
	I'm in Sherlington.
	I'm available whenever you want.
	Congress to roll around.
	Okay.
	So just DM me or text me.
	I live on Arlington Ridge.
	There you go.
	Hang on.
	All right, man.
	I will ping you.
	Let's do it.
	Thanks, brother.
	See you, Jim.
	Yep.
	All right.
	All right.
	Yeah, I noticed on Outnumber the other day.
	Oh, hang on a second.
	Oh, sorry.
	I'm walking.
	No, it's okay.
	Thanks, boss.
	Thank you.
	Don't forget your iPad.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Thanks, guys.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Now, where do I head?
	Where are you going to?
	What is the address?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	You're calling that.
	Yeah, I noticed on Outnumber the other day on Fox News, Pete Hegseth was wearing, like, tennis shoes with his suit.
	Yeah.
	With, like, blue socks.
	Like, light blue socks.
	And he was wearing – it was, like, a light gray suit, blue socks, tennis shoes.
	And all his tattoos.
	Where are you going to?
	He also was slightly unshaven.
	He had like a five o'clock shadow going.
	And it actually looked, I'm not going to lie, it looked good on him.
	I thought it actually looked better than the clean shaven look.
	That was just me personally.
	He's such a pretty boy.
	Because he's a veteran or something, right?
	He's a veteran or something.
	No, he's a good guy.
	I think he's still in.
	I think he's still a reservist.
	Oh, okay.
	But that's why I thought the kind of scruffy look was more fitting, honestly.
	It just kind of had this like hardened warrior look to it.
	We used to give him a hard time when he was running Vets for Freedom before he started with Fox.
	We used to give him a hard time about his hair gel.
	Because he uses, I mean, he uses enough hair gel for the rest of the country.
	You know, like if Pete ever stopped using hair gel, there would be a glut on the market.
	I thought that was Jesse Waters.
	Well, they made between the two of them, but Hegseth has a lot of, and it was a game we used to steal it from him.
	We went on this thing.
	It was the National Heroes Tour.
	It was a bus trip across the country.
	And we had, you know, a bunch of Medal of Honor winners and people like that.
	And we would steal Pete's hair gel.
	And then he'd start freaking out when he'd have a TV hit to do.
	He's like, how am I going to fix my hair?
	Yeah.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	I am most definitely very special, and I am Uncle Jimbo.
	I am Jim Hansen.
	You can check me out.
	You should actually, if you're not following my Twitter feed, you're cheating yourself.
	It's on the screen now, but it's at Jim Hansen DC.
	Just throw Jim Hansen in the thing.
	You can actually find it on the search now, because for some reason now that Twitter is potentially an acquisition by Elon Musk, They've pulled some of the shackles off my account and a lot of my friends' accounts, maybe even Seb's account.
	They've been shadowbanning and throttling.
	And many of you who have social media accounts, you know what I'm talking about.
	They hide us because they don't want our ideas to percolate through.
	Now, I think that's a double-edged sword because, number one, it's damaging.
	You know, I was telling John Schweppe in one of the breaks that they actually had a filter on my account for a year and a half where all of my tweets came with a sensitive content warning.
	Even though I don't post sensitive content, I post content that hurts liberal ideas and liberal, you know, their feelings, but I don't post actually sensitive things, you know, not nudity or violence or anything like that.
	I just say things that hurt their feelings because their ideas are stupid and I make fun of them.
	So they had, for a year and a half, all of my tweets came with a sensitive content warning that you had to click through to even get to them.
	And if you weren't already following me on Twitter, they had my profile grayed out and you would go there if you typed in my full username, And then you would go to the page and it was grayed out and it would say this, you know, knuckle-dragging right-wing troglodyte posts stuff that will make you cry if you're a leftist.
	If you still want to click through, go ahead, but be prepared, more or less.
	And that only got removed after I found, you know, someone at Twitter who actually had a conscience.
	And they went and looked and said, you don't actually post sensitive content, you just post content that makes us cry.
	I was like, I know!
	And they removed that.
	So now that Elon's in the play, you can actually get to my tweets.
	And you should, because A, I'm hilarious.
	B, I make sure that we have the correct answers.
	Because one of the things I think our team needs, and I think I'm kind of good at it.
	It's something I've been doing most of my life, is I run a company that does information warfare for our team.
	And that's something that I think we sometimes think we're better at than we are.
	You know, there are a lot of arguments that go out, I see, from our side that are not grounded in reality, that don't have the facts, and that aren't making an argument that will pass muster.
	And so I want our team to do a better job of making sure that we're not just putting out the funniest meme or the pithiest... No, not... If it's memes, who cares?
	Memes are fun.
	All right?
	That's just... We kick the left's butt on memes.
	No doubt the left can't meme.
	But I'm saying when you start going beyond that and you start getting into what's the best argument against Roe v. Wade?
	What's the best argument in favor of constitutional carry?
	You know, what's the best argument in favor of free speech versus the First Amendment versus companies' rights to censor people because they're private organizations?
	How do you make those arguments in ways that are not going to change the mind of the left?
	We're not going to change the woke You know, blue-haired, pierced-faced, patchouli-smelling, dirty, nasty, non-binary forest elf.
	Fairies.
	I guess I can say that.
	I can say whatever I want.
	We're not going to change their minds.
	What I want to do is help all of us get better at arguing in front of them in public to influence the people who are lurking and watching.
	Because if you look at Twitter, 10% of the people put out 90% of the content and the rest of the people are consumers of that content.
	So what are you putting out?
	Okay, and I'm not against just, you know, putting out the funniest, most wicked, pithy takedowns of everything because I do it and we all should do it because it's fun and part of this should be fun.
	But what are you doing when you actually want to change minds?
	What are the arguments that are going to change the minds of those people who, when I'm arguing, you know, with John Fuglesang or I'm arguing with Patton Oswalt, You know, or any of these, you know, leftists who think they're, those two think they're comics.
	Or what's it got?
	Christopher Titus, loser scumbag.
	When I'm arguing with one of them, I'm not arguing with them because I'm going to change their mind.
	I'm trying to bait them into saying something stupid so that I can come back with the right answer.
	And so I kind of want to charge all of you to the extent you care and want to be part of that.
	Find the good answers.
	Don't just find the pithiest, funniest, snarkiest comment.
	Find something good, too.
	And then tag team.
	Use one, and then go the next time with a solid argument that says, well, here's the reason that in the Constitution, this is not about wanting to kill people.
	I carry a gun, so I never have to shoot someone.
	I hope to never, and I carry almost everywhere I go, And hopefully soon in the District of Columbia, now that we've got at least a right to be that, I think we need reciprocity, and that's the next big fight, for concealed carry permits everywhere.
	Because if you're in DC, you want me carrying.
	because the bad guys are carrying and I'm a better shot than they are because they turn their guns sideways because they watch the stupid gangster rap videos and because they turn sideways that's why if you ever noticed that in the gang shootings a lot of people get shot but not as many people get killed haha wonder why turn your gun upright so you can see the sights you idiot That was a nice little segue.
	Bottom line, I want us to argue the good arguments so that when we're arguing about why I and you should be allowed to carry a gun anywhere in the country, we're using the best argument.
	And that argument is contained in the Bruin ruling, and that argument is that the expectation of the founders was that you would be able to keep and bear arms and not have that infringed.
	And there's better ways to make that argument without just saying, I have a right to have a gun and you don't have a right to care.
	So I'm asking for a little bit of deeper dig by all of us.
	Read the arguments.
	Read the rulings.
	Read the smartest people on our side.
	Read the smartest people on their side.
	Find the best arguments that are being made against our ideas and then find the best antidote to that venom.
	And if you do that, you will be a more powerful member of our team, and our ideas, since they're better, will propagate.
	You know, we're winning in the Supreme Court, we're gonna win in Congress, but this is a long war.
	So be prepared for that.
	Have the right ideas for the information war we're fighting, and our team will prevail.
	Because we're the good guys!
	I may have a green hat on, but we wear the white hats.
	So this is Jim Hanson.
	I've had a tremendous time spending two days with you guys.
	Seb will be back Tuesday.
	Enjoy the 4th of July.
	Be a patriotic American.
	Put America first.
	I forgot we have one more segment.
	No worries.
	No worries.
	That didn't even come across to me as a show close.
	That was just like a really feel-good.
	That was a segment close?
	I think, yeah, we still do a proper show close.
	Sure, okay.
	We're going to pretend that was a total show close.
	I'm trying.
	Man, you guys are cynics.
	I'm trying to be nice to the guest host.
	Don't.
	I don't mind being wrong.
	I'm wrong all the time.
	I have a wife.
	Breaking news.
	Catalog, yeah.
	Breaking news.
	Jim Hansen offers free advice for how gangbangers can kill people more effectively.
	Ha ha ha!
	Wow.
	They're not going to change because of me.
	It's because I'm pretty sure they're not watching.
	No, they're definitely not.
	That is funny, though.
	And see, there you go.
	Our team is funnier than theirs.
	Their team's not funny.
	They're angry and testy and stupid.
	In the Rumble chat, Roundhammer117 says, memes are counter-psyops against the establishment, and that's why they want more censorship.
	Bingo!
	They know.
	Mockery is the most powerful tool when you're fighting an information war.
	Aside from access.
	You know, you have to have distribution.
	But once you've got distribution, mockery is deadly.
	And that's why our memes crush theirs.
	The left can't meme.
	That's why the absolute pinnacle of the meme wars, of memes in political messaging and in the real world, was when they literally got the SPLC and the ADL to call Pepe the Frog a hate symbol.
	Right?
	Oh my god.
	Absolute.
	I'll never forget that.
	Yeah.
	Well, those guys.
	I actually made the SPLC hate list at one point.
	Nice.
	And then we got them to take it off because it was actually a garbage charge, and they did.
	But, I mean, isn't it all garbage charges?
	They just call everybody Nazis now?
	Yeah, I mean, well, at some level, there are people.
	There are Nazis and there are scumbags.
	Yeah, there are real Nazis, but like... But that's one-tenth of the people that they... What they do is, you walk next to a Nazi.
	I have a picture of you at a march, and there's a Nazi in the frame of the picture.
	Therefore, you're now on our hate map.
	Shut up.
	They're the absolute worst.
	They are a pond scum.
	Alright, so we got, what, another three-minute one?
	Uh, yeah.
	Three and a half minutes.
	What are we gonna do?
	Should we do the gun thing?
	I keep wanting to do that gun thing.
	Why don't I just do it?
	There's a call if you want it.
	Oh.
	Alright.
	It's from California.
	We'll do that.
	Why not?
	Cause then I gotta react.
	I like to react.
	Could be about anything.
	30 seconds.
	Wonder where that whole sideways gun holding thing came from in the first place.
	Was it like a Tupac thing?
	That's interesting.
	I mean, it's bad rap videos, but... I tried it.
	We actually tested it.
	And you can't shoot... Yeah, do you know how many people have probably survived because of that?
	Exactly!
	So I gotta shut up now.
	I'm sorry.
	I apologize.
	Sorry. Sorry.
	. .
	. . .
	America first.
	I'm down with impeaching and convicting fake news.
	This is Jim Hansen enjoying my final segment because I fake ended the show last segment because I'm just not paying attention.
	But I want to take one more call because we can do that and we got Dan from California who wants to talk.
	You want to talk about Biden in Saudi Arabia?
	Yeah, Jim.
	Hey, great show, brother.
	Thanks, man.
	Appreciate it.
	If I'm the Saudis, I want to speak directly to them.
	If Joe Biden shows up, I want to tell the Saudis to tell Joe Biden, we will not discuss any kind of reduction or increase in our production.
	We'll actually decrease our production if you continue this silly negotiation with the Iranians And the Russians.
	You break off that negotiation, or we're going to cut production 20%.
	That's a nicely powerful leveraged position there.
	I'm in.
	I'm in.
	I think they should do that.
	I hate to be in the position of arguing against the U.S.
	President, but I will tell you right now, in the same way when Obama and Biden and John Kerry and the rest of those idiots were negotiating the first Iran deal, they cannot be trusted with our national security or foreign policy because they're going to do the wrong thing.
	They always have.
	They always will.
	And they're trying to do it again.
	You know, they failed the first time with the worst deal in history.
	Trump was absolutely right about that.
	And we worked against that and worked to help the Trump administration get out of that deal.
	Now they're back doing the same thing.
	We need the Saudis help.
	The Saudis are an ally.
	They're not an ally on everything, but they are 100% our ally in the fight against Iranian terrorism and the Iranian, you know, need to be and want to be a nuclear state.
	So, I think if they do that, it would be helpful in some ways, even if it in the short term causes us issues with the cost of gas.
	I will say this, and if any of our Saudi friends are listening, I'm open to a secret side deal that gets me cheap gas.
	Because I paid $6 a gallon when I filled up my wife's car yesterday and that was one of the most painful things I've ever done in my life.
	So I want our Saudi allies to be on board.
	I want us to be on board with the idea that the Iranians are the bad guys and that the Russians are the bad guys and that this deal that Biden's trying to do that actually helps the Russians get paid, helps Iran not stop their nuke, Ambitions and all the rest of it.
	It's a bad idea.
	So, um, thanks for that call, buddy I think that was a that was a good idea and I got to get my throw out I'll let everybody know if I do get my secret side deal on gas Because I think that would be awesome if they sell me enough.
	I will start offering Separate secret diet side deals to all of you as well So thanks for sharing the airwaves with me, MAGA, America First Nation, Rumble Chat, all of you on the Salem Network.
	It was a blast.
	I'm glad Seb's getting some well-deserved fresh air away from the swamp.
	And when he gets back, I'm sure he will be fired up because he can't take the lack of ability to give you all the wonderful ideas flowing from him.
	So this is Jim Hansen.
	Follow me on Twitter.
	You'll enjoy it.
	You enjoy your Fourth of July weekend, and America First.
	I'm out.

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