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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Pelosi refuses to condemn pregnancy center attacks

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	Thank you.
	Happy Friday, dear friends.
	Welcome to the Salem Network.
	I'm your host, Sebastian Gawker.
	Across the nation, more than 300 stations, 3 million listeners, it's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	It's celebrating the Second Amendment.
	But first off, I'm going to do something unusual.
	I'm not going to do a monologue, because I've got some amazing news I received earlier today on my phone.
	The text This photograph of the front cover of the New York Post, which is legendary for how they skewer the left, but today they were celebrating something big.
	A man I have campaigned for has received the endorsement of the New York Post.
	He is Lee Zeldin, God willing, the next governor of the state of New York, and we are opening the show with Congressman Zeldin.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey, I don't know.
	This might even be bigger than making the front page of The Post.
	I get to open the show with Seth Gorka before the monologue.
	I know people are going to say, where's my monologue?
	Who is this Zeldin chappie?
	Don't worry, guys.
	We've got three hours to go.
	We'll squeeze in a monologue or two by some amazing guests.
	But Lee, I am so excited for you.
	The idea that The Post endorsed you.
	It's such an amazing newspaper.
	It's pushing back on the crazies.
	Let's start by talking about the recent figures.
	You are crushing it in the polls.
	I'm going to ask the rude question.
	I didn't rehearse any of this.
	I didn't ask for clearance from your comms team.
	How on God's green earth is a Republican crushing it in the polls for the gubernatorial race in New York?
	You know, when people look at New York, they see that there's so many more Democrats than Republicans, and then they write off the state.
	But in New York, there's also millions of people who are registered voters who aren't Republicans or Democrats.
	And these people right now are polling as if they're Republicans in other years.
	It's fascinating.
	They're upset because—and it's not just independents, by the way, there's also disenfranchised Democrats who feel this.
	They're hitting their breaking point in this state.
	They feel like if they go to Florida or Texas or Tennessee or the Carolinas or elsewhere, that their money is going to go further.
	They'll feel safer.
	They'll live life freer.
	And in New York, you have one-party Democrat control, super majorities barely in the Assembly and Senate, people with outsized power who self-describe as socialists.
	And when you don't feel safe on your streets, Or at work or in your home, if you feel like the quality of your son or daughter's education is under attack, if you're missing out on economic opportunity, if you feel like government is being restrictive with your freedom, even if you are a loyal liberal Democrat, especially these independents, but even folks who have always voted Democrat in their life, now they're saying, I can't take any more of this.
	The direction of New York State, it's unsustainable.
	We have to turn it around.
	We have to restore balance and common sense, and that's why there's enough of them waking up to our campaign where you're starting to see general election polls coming out that basically have this around a dead heat.
	I mean, I saw one poll that had me up a point and a half over Kathy Hochul.
	One poll had me down four.
	There was a poll that wasn't released publicly.
	That had me down three.
	I heard Kathy Hochul's polling had me just over her.
	So, I mean, and these were all polls that were coming out around seven months before the election.
	Over the course of the last couple of months, it's been primary polling.
	The Republican primary is Tuesday, June 28th.
	Once that's behind us, we'll start seeing general election polling again.
	I actually think it's gotten better since all of those March polls.
	All right.
	Well, let's talk about the issue that you raise as the key triggering issues.
	So the cover of the New York Post has you on the bottom half with the official endorsement, and on the top, banner headline, No Justice, a photograph of the Manhattan D.A.
	Alvin Bragg and on the other side George Gascogne of LA, the DA for Los Angeles.
	And the message here is very clear that, you know, people are afraid.
	Crime is out of control on the East Coast, on the West Coast.
	And I don't want to be too Pollyannish about this but is the message that given the insanity of the left's soft on criminals policies that we we don't give up on places like New York and California and that every every part of the Republic can be clawed back from the people who let cop killers back onto the streets?
	Am I overthinking it?
	No, this is not just something that we can do, it's something that we have to and will do this November.
	In New York, we're going to elect a Republican governor again.
	We will have a balance of power, and we'll start turning things around.
	And I'm honored to have the endorsement of the New York Post.
	It was a great write-up.
	They have, every single day, been covering the news of the rising crime, the attacks on law enforcement, They've been really at the tip of the spear of reporting a lot.
	I mean, we saw it nationally with the Hunter Biden laptop stories, and then they get silenced by big tech.
	They really have been at the tip of the spear on many different fronts.
	So it's an endorsement that I'm proud of.
	The opportunity that's in front of us is one of a clear crossroads, and we know what to do to fix the state.
	They understand what needs to get done to fix the state.
	A lot of average, everyday New Yorkers get it, and one of the things that I would have in my power, and you and I have spoken about this particular power on air before, is that The New York state constitution gives the governor of the state of New York the authority to fire a district attorney who refuses to enforce the law.
	Soros funded liberal Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg from day one has said he's refusing to enforce the law across the board on all different kinds of laws and on other offenses he was going to treat as lesser offenses.
	So this is what I pledge.
	And you and I have spoken about this before.
	I'm going to take the oath, I'm going to get sworn in, and the very first thing I'm going to do in January as the Governor of the State of New York is I am going to fire Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
	Wow.
	That's the kind of change that can be effected without delay.
	Even if there's a balance where Democrats control any of the legislature, that's something that we can do on our own day one.
	Amazing.
	I wish we had that in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
	We see a standoff between the new Lieutenant Governor, the Attorney General, and the Governor with out-of-control DAs who just cannot be removed.
	But when it comes to the violence, it's not just locally, it's nationally.
	I have to get your reaction to what the Speaker of the House did when she was asked to do one simple thing, Congressman Zeldin, condemn the firebombing of pregnancy crisis centers across the nation, which is now finally being investigated by the FBI.
	Cut eight.
	As far as the abortion case is concerned, there has been a number of attacks on churches, on crisis pregnancy centers.
	Republicans are going after Democrats for not saying anything, and they're saying that your rhetoric is contributing to these attacks on these crisis pregnancy centers.
	Well, let me just say this.
	A woman has a right to choose.
	To live up to her responsibility It's up to her, her doctor, her family, her husband, her significant other, and her God.
	This talk of politicizing all of this, I think, is something uniquely American and not right.
	We only have 60 seconds left, Congressman.
	The website is zeldinforyouyork.com.
	But your reaction to Nancy Pelosi being asked, do you condemn the firebombing of crisis pregnancy centers?
	And she says, a woman has a right to choose.
	Rank hypocrisy, she has to go.
	Between Pelosi, Hoyer, and Clyburn, the top three in the House, they've been serving in the House of Representatives for over 106, 107 years by now.
	And this isn't an exaggeration.
	I'm not rounding up.
	So they need to go.
	We have to flip the House of Representatives, take the gavels out of the hands of Pelosi and Schiff and Nadler and Waters.
	If they don't want to lead, if they don't want to say the right thing, if they don't want to do the right thing, it's up to us as voters all throughout America to make sure that the power comes out of their hands because we should be sticking up for these people who are fighting for life.
	All right, New Yorkers, let's get this guy in the governor's mansion.
	Zeldin for NewYork.com.
	He's invited me to some campaign events.
	I can't wait to join him.
	He is the Congressman from New York at Rep.
	Lee Zeldin and at Lee Zeldin on Twitter.
	The website is Zeldin4NewYork.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Yeah, it's fine.
	Thank you.
	We are with you.
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	What a perfect liner for a Friday celebrating the Second Amendment.
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	What kind of guy or gal are you?
	For the longest time, I thought... I like books.
	I can't have too many books.
	But I'm really a gun guy.
	When the show finishes today, I'm gonna go over to the gun show, the biggest gun show in America, see all my buddies, maybe pick up a few items... before the liberals ban them.
	But now, I might be... I might be a... gun guy...
	And a car guy.
	I've always liked cars, but I haven't been crazy.
	But then it was my 50th birthday and my muse, who will be in studio on Monday, well, she allowed me to buy a 66 Mustang.
	And mea culpa, guys, I'm sorry I did it.
	It arrived in that awful color, the worst factory color they had at Ford.
	My wife Colt calls it your old auntie's pantyhose color, that kind of cat puke beige.
	And I don't want to sell it.
	I want it to be cool.
	It had 11,000 miles on it.
	It was cherry.
	So I painted it.
	Here it is.
	I'm sorry guys.
	Yes, I painted it.
	It is now so black.
	It looks like an oil slick.
	Ray's Auto, you did an amazing job.
	But now I need to kind of...
	Make a few modifications and I know who's gonna help me.
	She's connected because of the Stang.
	We are delighted to have her on the show.
	Lauren Fix of the Car Coach Fame and Car Coach Reports.
	Welcome to America First!
	Well, thank you.
	I am a huge fan of yours and I was really excited to connect with you because of Mustangs.
	That is pretty awesome.
	Yeah, I'm not even going to allow you.
	It will be banned in front of my millions of listeners to tell them what cars you own.
	I'm not even going to mention Shelby.
	The name Shelby shall not exit my lips.
	You can go and check her out on her website CarCoachReports.com.
	She can regale you there with the images because I will feel very insignificant with my 66 regular Mustang.
	No Shelby, no fastback, but I like it.
	I'm happy.
	Tell us your amazing story.
	So much to discuss on what's happening in the car sector, what's happening with the price of gas.
	You sent me an amazing video.
	This morning, but tell us your crazy story, how you got involved.
	I've got this long list of all the races you've won and all the things you've done.
	That's just far too intimidating for a guy.
	But in high school, what did you come up with, Lauren?
	Well, when I was in high school, my father owned a brake remanufacturing company.
	So I had said to him, hey, you know, why don't we, he only did Corvettes.
	And I said, why are we not doing anything for Mustangs, Mopars, everything else?
	He said, well, go figure it out.
	And I had learned about cars from my father, and I was into racing.
	I started racing at 16.
	So I went to a cruise night, spoke to someone, created these disc brakes that we could use for old Mustangs that didn't have disc brakes.
	But then...
	I took it to the Shelby convention, and people were saying, that'd be great, but I don't have a disc brake.
	So I came home to my dad.
	I said, we should put disc brakes on cars that don't have them.
	He goes, we'll make something, because there isn't anything like that.
	So between my junior and senior year, summer of high school, I developed the first drum to disc brake conversion kit.
	And I submitted those blueprints and everything to the Society of Automotive Engineers, who accepted me.
	I didn't even have a high school education, but they never asked.
	Excuse me, excuse me.
	How old were you when you invented this, Lauren? 17.
	Oh yeah, and let me just read one, I'll just do one item from her resume.
	Began racing at her first race at the SEC Solo 2 Series.
	She ended up third, third in her first race.
	Okay, that's enough about you.
	But I'm very excited that you, this is, we had this long, I stole so much of your time as I was driving home from the body shop with my Mustang looking amazing.
	But you're passionate.
	It's good.
	Come on!
	I drove a matte black Bondo colored 68 Camaro in England that I bought for 800 pounds, okay?
	That's how much I've been into muscle cars for so long.
	But I asked you, what do I do with this?
	Because I don't want to soup it up.
	I want to make it look like it's, you know, on the outside like it's from 66.
	And you said, safety.
	You can't put the over the shoulder belts in.
	But you've got to put disc brakes in.
	So the first discussion we had and I'm going to do it because I've got drums all around which in the wet is Not the best thing to have on a 66 Mustang.
	All right, enough of that.
	We'll return to the fun stuff.
	What the flip is going on in the automotive sector.
	Let's start first with gas.
	What's the truth about gas?
	How bad is it going to get?
	Because for most people who live by driving, this is a disaster.
	Right.
	And I'm going to be honest with you.
	I'm not going to candy coat it, but I'll tell you right now, President Biden is 100% wrong.
	It is not the fault of Putin.
	It is not the fault of the gasoline companies.
	This is a fault of regulation.
	I don't cover politics.
	I cover automotive and energy, and there is nothing more upsetting to me when I see that someone passes the blame.
	And the perfect example for all of us is our mothers would say, like, who broke the lamp?
	And if you go, it wasn't me, it was the cat, right?
	And you know your mom's going to look at you and say, really?
	You can either fess up to it now or pay the price for it later.
	And that's exactly what we have is someone passing the blame onto someone else instead of taking responsibility for the actions that are theirs.
	And in this case, The regulations have been put in place.
	There's 11 new regulations against these oil and gas companies.
	And what people don't realize is during COVID, companies like ExxonMobil had put money, $20 million into doing research, and then they realized they were behind another $20 million.
	So they took out a loan for $30 million.
	So you're already $50 million in the hole.
	And so it's going to take time to recoup those profits.
	So in the meantime, There's more regulations.
	You know for a fact when President Biden got in, day one, what's the first thing he did?
	Stopped that pipeline, stopped all the drilling, took away the leases.
	And he's saying, oh, there's 9,000 leases and permits out there.
	Well, a permit is only to look to see if there's fuel.
	That doesn't mean that there's fuel.
	Then this is the worst part of it.
	So a company like any of the gasoline and oil companies say, we're going to drill here.
	It looks like there's something here.
	They go to the bank and say, hey, listen, I need money for drilling rigs, people, insurance, equipment, regulations, so forth.
	And the banks are going to say no, because people like Elizabeth Warren are saying, oh, the banks shouldn't be giving them money.
	So you just keep putting them behind the eight ball every single time.
	So what do you think they're going to do?
	They're not going to drill.
	And right now, we're already at 94% capacity.
	How much more can we have when you already got the government demanding that they switch to biodiesel?
	And the idea that we are going to other countries, who in many cases hate us, like Venezuela, like Saudi Arabia, to say, please, please can we have some more oil, when in fact when we left, when the Trump administration left office, We were exporting oil and gas because we had too much of it.
	Sheer insanity.
	So much more to discuss.
	She is the car coach!
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	Her name is Lauren Fix.
	You can follow her on all, all the social media channels that matter.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Eric.
	Yes?
	I sent two more pictures for this segment of something that happened this morning.
	I'm gonna shock even Lauren.
	She will not know what hit her.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	Better get my picture back square here, then.
	I'm into guns, targets... Yeah, Mike's is still on the video stream, so don't say anything you don't want to give away.
	That's alright.
	I see the first one.
	all right so i'm gonna i'm gonna tee this up oh i actually um you you work on that buffer but i need to use cut 10 here of biden that i meant to use previously uh alexis john john steve on the on the phone lines don't go anywhere franco oh franco is that our truck driver is that franco maybe all right Hang on, so you mean today's content, right?
	Yes, Biden.
	Yeah.
	Give me a second here.
	The images are more important.
	Yeah.
	And I'm going to do merch.
	Thank you for joining us today.
	Thank you for having me.
	I was just talking to Michael Pelka earlier today.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, he said to say hello.
	Yeah, greetings to Mike.
	He's a wonderful guy.
	I think he was covering for Chris Plant today.
	Is that right, Jeff?
	Was that Mike?
	Was that Pelka?
	Yeah.
	It's a small world.
	It is.
	Well, you know, patriots know patriots, right?
	That's for sure.
	Yeah, it's amazing when I start talking to, like, Pete Hegseth and we realize that we have so many mutual friends.
	It's crazy.
	Oh, I bet.
	I bet.
	Wow, look at that.
	I assume you know David Bellavia as well.
	I know the name.
	Who's that?
	So do you have a podcast?
	yes to be buffalo based yes he has a radio show on on every week he's a great guy oh i didn't know he did he just brought a place in florida yeah here in odyssey network so do you have a podcast do you have like regular content you push out i do Every Friday I put out this segment.
	I do car reviews.
	I'll of course share this when I get a link for it.
	I also do a podcast.
	We'll send you the link tonight.
	What's the name of the podcast?
	Is it just The Car Coach?
	Total Car Score.
	There's three of us.
	Is it a review of vehicles?
	No, we talk about the industry and insiders.
	We actually interview some executives and CEOs that people can't access that we have access to.
	So it's cool.
	Okay, I have the... We love it.
	We're card junkies.
	Uh, yeah, I can tell.
	From that conversation I had with you, I can tell.
	Let me just let me know when you're ready.
	I'm ready when you are.
	Yeah, we're good.
	Yeah, the big news is I'm going to tell you what I did today in the next segment.
	And so I found a guy who's ready to do it all.
	So I just have to order the parts now.
	Yeah.
	Well, let me know whenever you're ready.
	I'm around.
	I'm going to be in Florida.
	Oh, I need your advice.
	That's what I was going to text you on.
	So because this is I need the womanly touch here.
	I love this massive wrapped steering wheel but it's so huge and so deep because I'm big and you know whatever so I want to get a slightly smaller one that's shallow but I don't want it to kind of not fit if you know what I mean Oh, I can guide you on that.
	I talked to my husband about that.
	The original steering wheels are basically plastic wrapped with, you know, that fake leather.
	Right.
	That's what I've got.
	That's what I've got.
	But I need something that's a little more shallow and slightly smaller diameter.
	All right.
	20 seconds.
	Stand by.
	All right.
	I'm going to try and shrink my picture down.
	I don't know why it's doing that.
	Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
	Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
	Welcome, Alan.
	A lot of people don't realize some of the most informed people in the world are truck drivers because that's what we do.
	Of course!
	Exactly.
	Sebastian Gorka comes from the inside.
	He knows what he's talking about.
	He's worked for the president.
	He's worked for all these organizations with the military.
	You can believe what he says.
	Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Love our truck drivers.
	Don't go anywhere.
	I will get to you, Alexis, John, John, Steve, Franco.
	But first, gotta show you this viral cut.
	When I saw this yesterday, I told my team, post it everywhere.
	This is the proof.
	If you doubted that the man in the White House has dementia, here you go.
	This is how Joe Biden gives condolences to the family of a man who just died.
	Cut 10.
	And by the way, my sympathies to the family of your CFO who dropped dead very unexpectedly.
	My best to the family.
	It's tough stuff.
	Yeah, condolences to your husband's, you know, your father who dropped dead.
	One of the things you get with dementia is you have no filter, right?
	Just talk to people whose parents have Alzheimer's or dementia.
	They have no filter.
	That man is clinically demented.
	He's not compostmentis, okay?
	And he's got the nuclear football within 30 feet of him every day.
	All right, guys, let's have some fun.
	Let's forget that for a second.
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	She wasn't sure.
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	All right, we're back with Lauren Fix.
	She is the car coach, Car Coach Reports.
	She's written books on cars.
	She's got a podcast, The Total Car Score.
	Follow her on all social media, Lauren Fix.
	Okay, I'm going to break news now.
	I'm going to break national, this might be global news, and I'm going to try and impress this lady who just tools around in Shelby's all day.
	So I went to my gunsmith today.
	I had to drop off some stuff.
	And my gunsmith is also a mechanic.
	Isn't that perfect?
	He just needs a cigar store next door.
	And I said to him, because he's always got some unusual stuff he's working on, and he said, oh, I asked him, can you fix my Mustang?
	Can you put disc brakes in and an AC system?
	He said, no problem.
	Get the parts.
	We'll put it in.
	So Lauren, we're going to talk after the show.
	Then, as I'm leaving, I say, Got anything really cool, anything sexy in the shop?
	And he goes, no.
	He goes, he shakes his head, no.
	And then as I'm getting back in my car, he says, oh, hang on.
	This just rolled in.
	Put the first photograph up, Eric.
	Oh, very nice Caddy.
	Yeah, it's a nice Cadillac in amazing condition, original body.
	But you need to look at the license plate.
	The license plate says M. Monroe.
	And this was her Cadillac.
	This he has oh yeah he has the documentation signed by DiMaggio and Marilyn and he actually showed me I gotta show you this as well the oh where is it the photograph of Marilyn that he found on Instagram where she's sitting in this vehicle okay so this was at a hard rock type cafe out in Seattle
	And the fire marshal said, Lauren, you can't have that in here because it's got gasoline in the tank.
	They had to get rid of it.
	A guy in Virginia bought it, shipped it here across the nation.
	They didn't cover it.
	It was covered in salt when it arrived here.
	And now he's rebuilding the engine.
	So are you impressed that I was in Marilyn Monroe's caddy this morning, just a few hours ago, Lauren?
	That's pretty cool, I have to say.
	That's pretty awesome.
	How often do you even see a vehicle like that?
	That's not a vehicle you would even see at a museum, typically.
	People that have those cars?
	Like the original bullet car, they keep them and they show their friends.
	This is the coolest thing.
	I asked my buddy Walt, the mechanic, what's he going to do with it?
	Is he going to put it in a museum?
	He said, no, no, he's going to drive it, Lauren.
	He's going to drive it.
	Isn't that what it should be?
	I mean, I drive my Mustang.
	It may have come back from the shop, you know, immaculate, but I'm going to drive it on the street.
	You should.
	You should.
	Carroll Shelby, who we were very good friends with when he was around, I would always say, I built these cars to be driven.
	I did not build these cars to sit and be trailer queens.
	Beautiful.
	We got 10 seconds left.
	I'm going to put you on the spot.
	Best Mustang.
	Oh, 1965 Mustang.
	My favorites are the carryovers, which are the 252 early 66s that didn't get sold in 65.
	They were sold in early 66.
	We have a couple of those.
	I'm just a big fan of the early 65, 66 Mustang.
	All right.
	I've teased my listeners enough.
	Next time, we've got to show some photographs of your collection.
	We're going to show photographs of her racing.
	But in the meantime, follow her everywhere.
	Lauren Fix.
	The Car Coach, Car Coach Reports, and also the podcast Total Car Score.
	God bless you, that was super fun.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
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	So how cool was that, Marilyn's caddy, Marilyn's caddy, this morning?
	That's really cool.
	And he said, he said, I asked, do you have anything sexy?
	He said, no.
	Oh, oh, hang on.
	That's not, Marilyn Monroe's not sexy?
	He just forgot he had so many cars.
	That's pretty cool.
	Yeah, when you're ready, we'll ship everything directly to him so you don't have to put it in your vehicle because it's heavy.
	It's about two 70-pound boxes for the brakes.
	Okay.
	So what we'll do is we'll put it all in a box, we'll ship it to him directly, and we'll figure it out.
	All right.
	We'll take care of you.
	All right.
	I'll email you, and then send me photographs or links of what kind of steering wheel you think works.
	So it's the original black interior and now a black outside.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, I'll talk to my husband.
	Yeah, there's a couple options.
	I just don't want you to go too small because, although with the steering, you don't have power steering most likely, I'm assuming, right?
	No, it does.
	It does have power steering.
	Oh, it does?
	It does.
	Then you don't want too small.
	The steering wheel is going to be like driving a go-kart.
	Right.
	And also, if it's too small, you block the binnacles.
	You block the odometers and stuff.
	Gauges.
	Yeah, gauges.
	The gauges.
	Well, binnacles.
	The gauges.
	Yeah.
	But I'm curious what kind of things you think would be, you know, aesthetically pleasing.
	Well, you can do a center council if you don't have one.
	I mean, that kind of stuff you can do, and you can buy literally anywhere.
	Virginia Mustang's really good guys.
	If you don't want to buy direct, I can talk to Brant, who's the owner.
	He's a friend of ours.
	Cool.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	We'll try to stick with the Patriots, because like you, I'm... By the way, I just bought a new Sig last night.
	Oh, nice.
	Everybody's got the 365.
	What did you buy?
	I bought a 9mm because I didn't want anything too... I have a little hand, so I wanted something that would fit into my hand, and something I could conceal carry, because I do have a conceal carry permit in, like, five states, so... Excellent.
	They've just issued a 10mm.
	I'm very excited about that.
	Oh!
	Well, yeah, I live in New York State.
	I live in the vampire state, so they got all these BS rules, and it's such a challenge to get a firearm.
	I got a long gun from my husband for Father's Day, so... Nice!
	A couple boxes of 5.56, why not?
	I'll send you the links tonight for the interview.
	Thanks, Lauren.
	Great.
	Thank you so much.
	Have a great day.
	God bless.
	And happy Father's Day.
	Thank you.
	you.
	Bye-bye.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	All right, 30 30 seconds.
	All right.
	Class is now in session.
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	It's Friday!
	Franco!
	Iowa!
	Dr. G!
	Franco!
	Happy Friday!
	Thank you, back at ya!
	Hey, I, uh, usually it's a couple of months in between, but, um, 28 months later, uh, my Henry came in.
	Oh, you got your Henry, uh, your Henry rifle?
	I've gotta, I'm gonna make payments, because I just got the Tabor, but, um, yeah, it's, uh, the first, the day I turned 21, I bought a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum, so I got the brass, uh, 10 rounder in 357, so I can walk around like a cowboy out.
	Love it.
	Okay, which caliber Tavor?
	The 5.56 or the 308?
	I need to know, Franco.
	5.56.
	All right.
	I have the 5.56.
	It's one of my favorite guns.
	Put a little suppressor on the front.
	It's neat and handy.
	But I have a hankering for the 308.
	I might have to look for that at the gun show today.
	Yeah, I know.
	All right.
	Hey, I got a Did you, um, I just to cover or tell you about it.
	I was at hockey camp when my mom bought a second car way, way, way back.
	And when I got back, she's got a Mustang in the driveway and it's that color that yours used to be.
	But it said, you know, it said Mustang on it.
	So I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah.
	And I popped the hood.
	And it's like... It was a straight six, and if you had enough room in the engine compartment, you could have put three of them in there.
	Yeah, you could have had a little party under the hood.
	I'm very happy I've got the V8 in mine.
	You need it, because those cars are heavy.
	Stay out there, Franco.
	Stay safe.
	I'm very, very happy you got your Henry.
	It's Friday.
	We celebrate the Second Amendment.
	Let's go to line two.
	John, Tennessee.
	Good afternoon, sir.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	Real quick, I do love the new studio.
	It looks fantastic.
	Well done with the design.
	Thank you.
	So, quick things.
	One, I think we should have a Republican Rhino Wall of Shame that you keep updated on the website because these rhinos keep on doing things that we keep... John, stop talking.
	That is bloody genius.
	Mr. G, isn't that genius to have a rhino list updated on our website?
	We might need a little more bandwidth.
	We might need an extra large screen out there.
	Double screen.
	That is a superb idea, John.
	Yes.
	And I think not just on the website.
	We should talk about them every week on the show.
	Right, John?
	Yes, sir.
	We've got to keep everybody, keep their memories fresh because people tend to forget the bad things they've done.
	Yeah.
	And we need to keep reminding people.
	Genius.
	God bless it.
	Stay on the line, John.
	We've got to give John, let's get, what should we give him?
	Let's give him an LGBT mug because that is a genius idea and we are going to do that.
	The let's get Biden to quit mug.
	Alexis, waiting patiently.
	California, line one.
	Hey, Biden, you need to quit!
	Casey's listening.
	At any rate, I'm sad.
	My favorite restaurant has gone woke.
	The new manager won't let me watch Newsmax anymore.
	Hang on, hang on.
	What has he got up on the screen?
	He'll have, well there's several TVs and I'm just occupying one when there's nobody in the sushi bar, but he has different ones.
	He's telling me, he saw it and he turned around and looked at me like I'm waving a neon American flag or something.
	He was just My dear Alexis, I think you may have to find another sushi restaurant, I'm afraid.
	No, it's my favorite.
	All the people that I love.
	Well, the other TV has a documentary on, you know, and I've been in there several times since then.
	My dear Alexis, I think you may have to find another sushi restaurant, I'm afraid.
	It's my favorite.
	All the people that I love.
	I call it the woke walk now.
	The woke walk.
	I think you're right.
	Yeah, because sport is so uncontroversial with people kneeling and everything else.
	Tell the guy to get a life.
	Don't get down.
	Just get out that phone book.
	Do you remember those things?
	Phone books?
	The interwebs?
	Find an un-woke sushi... Seriously?
	A woke sushi restaurant?
	That's just wrong.
	John Orlando, line three.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	Hey.
	Hey, yeah, I was listening to the previous, John.
	You know, you cross a rhino and an elephant.
	What do you get?
	Tell me, John.
	I was calling about the comment Nancy made.
	Tell me, what do you get when you cross an elephant and a rhino?
	Elephino.
	Oh, that's a dad joke.
	Elephino.
	Alright, what else do you want to share with us?
	I was calling about the comment with Nancy.
	They asked her if she supported the violence on the... The pregnancy crisis centers.
	The pregnancy counseling centers.
	And she commented, you know, she supports the woman's right to choose.
	Well, if they asked President Trump if he supported the violence on January 6th, and he said, well, people have a right to have secure elections, what would the press say about that?
	Yeah, no, that is an amazing point.
	That would be the new Charlottesville, you know, video clip that they would use again and again and again.
	But you're so right.
	If he had refused to condemn the violence, which he has, and just said, oh, well, it's your right to choose as a voter, for example, wow.
	Good for you.
	Great call, John.
	Great calls all around today.
	Steve, Mark, don't go anywhere.
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	All right.
	I think that's an extra job for Eric that he will actually be excited about.
	I knew it.
	I knew it.
	Yeah.
	Come on.
	You're going to be excited about keeping tabs on rhinos.
	Where do I cap the list off, though? 50?
	I think the way we look at it is evidence of Rhino.
	We've got to keep the... What was it called that said, remind people of the things they've done.
	I mean, a list like that though, I'd rather keep the Shadow Rhinos on there, because we all know Romney.
	That's good.
	No, that's good.
	Like Lindsey Graham.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, that's good.
	That's good.
	Brian Kemp.
	We'll brainstorm it.
	Oh, that's right.
	On Tuesday we have the runoff with Vernon Jones versus another guy for that seat in Congress.
	How's it looking?
	The other guy did win the primary.
	He got more.
	Kemp just backed him.
	So, it's going to be tough.
	It's going to be a tough race, but we'll see how Jones does there.
	And we also have Alabama.
	Mo Brooks vs. Katie Britt.
	Because Trump re-endorsed Britt in that runoff.
	And we have a bit of a dry spell in primaries in July.
	Nothing exciting.
	Not until August again, I don't think.
	Alright, 40 seconds.
	No, I'm gonna do my pillow here.
	Yep.
	Pillow.
	How's it going, Rumblers?
	It's Friday, get excited!
	Almost 600 of you.
	Welcome, welcome, welcome.
	I love how these like Fauci versus Rand Paul things just happen and I just find out about them.
	Well, we need to play that one, yeah.
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	Steve, Arizona.
	Line 4.
	Greetings.
	This is Steve from Prescott Valley, Arizona.
	The fellow who sent you the Budapest mug.
	The embassy mug.
	Oh yes!
	It's in my green room.
	We love that.
	Wonderful.
	I'm so glad.
	As my people say, use it in good health.
	I appreciate it.
	What's your question?
	We've got callers lined up.
	What's your question, Steve?
	I am ready.
	So today is Firearms Friday.
	And I'm a firearms enthusiast, and I like a lot of com-block guns, and I wanted to know what is your favorite, if at all?
	Oh, that's too difficult.
	As an owner of multiple AKs, I love my CZ-75s.
	I think my PA-63 is perhaps one of my favorite, the Polish submachine gun.
	I like the Scorpion, the VZ-61 as well.
	Hard to choose.
	If I had to choose one, Steve, it's gonna have to be a classic AK-47, but customized by Krebs or Fuller.
	Stay, that is a fabulous question, perfect for Friday.
	Let's go to Mark, New Jersey.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, and a privilege to talk to you.
	Given the fact that over 120,000 Americans, well over that figure, have died from fentanyl poisoning, I'd like to know if Mr. Biden and Ms.
	Harris, given the fact that they are knowingly And, uh, deliberately letting this poison come through our open border, uh, could they be held legally liable because they refuse to close our borders?
	That is a fabulous question.
	We need to get Ken Kuklowski, our constitutional law expert, former Trump lawyer, administration lawyer, back on the show.
	Let's do that next week, Mr. G. I've been thinking about this for a while, Mark.
	It's the president, it's Kamala, who's the czarina of the border, but most of all it's Alejandro Mayorkas.
	When you're keeping the border open, and we have, as you said, more than 110,000 people die from fentanyl that's being smuggled in, Yeah, we should be able to keep them, to make them legally liable for those deaths.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	America First
	We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	Tonk Let me say it again.
	The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
	Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
	Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
	I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
	I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
	If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
	Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
	We have been working on something big.
	Show me the money.
	Can we meet?
	I've been working with Greg Phillips.
	He has a deep background in election intelligence.
	True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
	No one has more data than we do.
	We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
	But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
	What is a mule?
	A person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.
	This is not grandma out walking her dog.
	Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
	They are interested in one thing, that's money.
	And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
	This is organized crime.
	Do you have video evidence?
	Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
	What you're about to see is disturbing.
	So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
	Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
	One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
	I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
	Because they work like that.
	This is jaw-dropping.
	What you showed is frightening.
	It's just sickening to me.
	Now we come to the most important question of all.
	Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
	It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
	They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
	That's provable.
	And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
	Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
	We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
	2,000 mules.
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	Alright.
	Where's the Baron?
	The Baron is here!
	Hello, Baron.
	Hello!
	Have you had your Friday Cigar yet?
	Not yet, not yet, not just yet.
	Alright, 30 seconds.
	Why is it, is it doing that for you going in and out?
	Boris?
	I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.
	Alright, I think it's my earpiece.
	All right.
	All right.
	News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	Was that Brian Stelter's voice?
	Was it really?
	Was it possible?
	And is it possible that we have some breaking news reported by Breitbart?
	Perhaps it is.
	Let's go to Mr. G. Mr. G, what did you just whisper in my ear?
	Well, Brian Stelter might be looking for a talk radio job because Breitbart says there's reports that he could be fired within days.
	Oh, Stelty!
	But wasn't it meant to be him and who's the other guy who's going to be fired?
	Acosta.
	Jim Acosta.
	Abilio!
	Do you think we should give them a podcast on Salem?
	What do you think?
	I would love it.
	You know I like watching that.
	I love listening.
	Hey, don't we have a spot here for like engineer or board op?
	Should we ask Stelty?
	Should we offer Stelty the board op job?
	He could play his own liner every break.
	Ah, it's gotta be Friday.
	Having too much fun.
	Oh dear.
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	It's Friday.
	I've already had a cigar.
	Big one in the morning as I was running errands.
	So we've got to check in with my cigar buddy.
	Are you there, Baron?
	I'm right here and I haven't smoked yet, but I'm hoping to be smoking very, very, very soon.
	You have been catching up with me in the last week, Baron.
	The photographs you send me of your stogie intake has been impressive.
	I will tell you, last weekend I did have three in a day.
	That's as many as I've had in memory.
	And it was definitely a long day, and then maybe a long day after.
	All right, I will declare that we are currently neck and neck.
	Is that fair?
	That's fair.
	I will take that 1,000%.
	All right.
	I'm proud to be neck and neck with you.
	All right, the race is on for the weekend.
	Father's Day weekend, the race is on.
	All right, let's get down to business.
	Do you want to do serious or fun first?
	Should we do fun?
	She's honestly useless.
	I don't know why she's in that position.
	She hasn't been here in South Texas to see what their policies are creating.
	the border Zarina Kamala Harris cut to.
	She's honestly useless.
	I don't know why she's in that position.
	She hasn't been here in South Texas to see what their policies are creating, the mess that they're creating in our country, and that their policies are hurting real people.
	God bless that victor in Texas, born in Mexico, for speaking the truth as it is.
	You are the political operator par excellence.
	How significant is her victory in Texas, Barron?
	Extremely significant.
	What's been happening in the Rio Grande, what's been happening in Florida, in Arizona, The unbelievable rise in Hispanic American backing for President Trump, for MAGA, for MAGA Republicanism, is unbelievable.
	And it's caused by the fact that Hispanic Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Jewish Americans, want to put America first.
	They want to make America great again.
	They hate what's happening to our country.
	They can't stand the weakness down at the border.
	They want strength, and that's what they're getting from MAGA.
	All right, let's talk serious.
	The J6 committee continues its dog and pony show.
	George Conway on the failing CNN had this quote-unquote expert analysis to make.
	Cut five.
	I wonder, George, if you think that former President Trump is in more legal trouble today than he was 24 hours ago.
	Yes, absolutely, without a doubt.
	I mean, this all reeks of criminality.
	And Bob Woodward put his nose right on it.
	I mean, he talked about Section 371 of the Criminal Code, which forbids frauds against the United States.
	And this was—it showed deceit.
	It showed an intent to deceive—to use deceit to impair a function of the—lawful function of the United States government.
	I'm not sure I'm going to ever get that image out of my mind of Bob Woodward putting his nose on something.
	But Boris Epstein, you are a former Strategic Advisor to the Trump campaign.
	You've worked in the White House with me.
	It's despicable what they're doing to Ginny Thomas now, attacking a wife of a Supreme Court Associate Justice.
	What is your expectation as this continues, as the ratings continue to plummet?
	We've seen, fascinatingly, a massive disagreement between the Democrat chairman and the fake Republican deputy from Wyoming, Liz Cheney.
	One says there will be criminal referrals, the other one says there isn't.
	Is this just going to collapse out of its own weight?
	It's already done so.
	These things are jokes.
	American people are not paying attention.
	The Americans don't care about the fact that inflation is sky high, that the stock market is exploding, that we're close to the southern border, the disaster in Afghanistan, the gas prices.
	You know, it's costing over $100 for people to fill up their gas tanks.
	They're running out of money just to go to work.
	That's what they care about, not this nonsense, complete charade.
	By the way, the charades uncover nothing.
	Every reporter, every time they tweet about it, or post about it, they say, as we reported a year ago, yeah, because there's no news.
	This is a no-news story.
	Nobody cares.
	Nothing was done wrong.
	And hey, hear me loud and hear me clear, George Codway, Shifty Shiver, the 2020 election was rigged and stolen.
	The 2000 Mules movie proved it one more time, and President Trump has been consistent in standing with the truth.
	You don't like it?
	That's not our problem, Liz Cheney, Kinzinger, Benny Thompson, whoever else that is over there.
	That is your problem.
	This charade, this absolute Moscow communist show trial is an utter failure.
	It's only making MAGA stronger.
	Only making MAGA stronger.
	Follow him on all social media platforms.
	Boris Epstein, Boris EP and borisep.com.
	I have to play this cut again because we posted it as soon as we saw it last night.
	It has gone absolutely viral.
	This is at a White House event.
	This is the man who could launch a nuclear war talking to a family that have just lost one of their loved ones.
	This is Joe Biden just yesterday.
	Cut 10.
	And by the way, my sympathies to the family of your CFO, who dropped dead very unexpectedly.
	My best to the family.
	It's tough stuff.
	My best to the family of the guy who just dropped dead.
	I'm sorry, that is all the evidence anyone needs that this man has dementia, Barron.
	He's just not there.
	He's gone.
	He's completely fallen apart.
	And that's who's supposed to be leading our country out of this historic inflation?
	No, that's who got us into it.
	The fact that the Democrats continue to prop up with Joe Biden tells you just how much they do not care about the American people, how much they don't care about the state of this country, This is exactly the question I wanted to ask you.
	It is truly pathetic.
	But, you know, now you've got long articles in New York Magazine and in Atlanta talking about Joe Biden not running in 2024.
	Well, this is the question I wanted to ask you.
	This is exactly the question I wanted to ask you.
	What we're seeing with Don Lemon, with Van Jones questioning his, you know, kind of beating around the bush, but questioning his cognitive capacity live on CNN – Are they going to throw him under the bus even before the election?
	I think they're trying to.
	That's why you have so much talk about it.
	But here's the issue, right?
	They've got to have someone to take place.
	And it sounds to me like there's only one person in the bullpen, and it's your favorite.
	Crooked Hillary Clinton.
	So if Crooked could push him, then maybe they do throw him under the bus.
	All right, let's listen to the person who is a heartbeat away from the president.
	They may have got rid of the government disinformation board, but it sounds like Kamala Harris is now on the case.
	Cut three.
	Well, the internet is an essential part of life in the 21st century.
	Can't get around it.
	Can't get around without it.
	Wow, big, big strategic analysis from Kamala.
	Oh, man, she's really insensitive.
	Just like, you know, you have the big country.
	Now you've got the little country.
	And then there are two countries, and they're fighting.
	Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
	With a cackle.
	She has no idea about anything.
	Another embarrassing person put on us by the Democrats, who don't care about America.
	You and I have talked about that for years.
	The Democrats do not care about America.
	All they care about is woke liberalism and making money.
	They're power-hungry cynics.
	All right.
	I don't think we got through that many cuts ever before in one segment with the Baron.
	That's why he is an operator par excellence.
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	By the way, if that stelter stuff is right. if that stelter stuff is right.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Hey, happy Father's Day.
	Have a great weekend.
	You too.
	Best to Solomon.
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	Bye-bye.
	That's why Don Lemon's doing that.
	Why?
	Because they're... Oh, because he's afraid.
	Yeah, because he kept saying how he's a journalist and I can look in my eyes and see what's going on.
	Yes, that makes sense.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	I think I actually am gonna miss Stelter more.
	He's more meme-worthy.
	Oh, I'd be mad if he really gets fired.
	Like, Lemon's just boring.
	Stelter's funny.
	They might attack you.
	The mics might attack you.
	All right, I'm going to play a cut from Congressman Waltz about China.
	What else should we discuss?
	Which, oh hang on.
	We can talk about the Ukraine thing again.
	You know, you know what, I think, I think people are upset not about supporting Ukraine.
	Really they're upset about Biden as Commander-in-Chief and what he's doing.
	And I think people are conflating that.
	We should un-conflate that.
	We shall do some un-conflation.
	De-conflation.
	I don't even know if that's a word.
	De-conflict is de-conflate.
	De-conflate.
	Is that a word?
	It's a thing.
	We used to de-conflate all the time.
	We just made it.
	De-conflating.
	De-conflated.
	We're going to de-conflate.
	We must de-conflate.
	De-conflate.
	That's a very Washington thing to do.
	It's very synergistic.
	In an interagency way.
	Can't we just have a show about movies?
	Yes!
	We could talk about Top Gun.
	We could talk about Top Gun for two segments.
	I'd love that.
	That would be so good.
	It really angered me.
	It's like, where's the F-35?
	Well, we couldn't use it because... So you've seen all the articles about how, you know, what's the thing at the beginning called?
	What's the plane he's flying at the beginning?
	Oh, yeah, that's not even a real play.
	No, but all these things are about-- it could be.
	Could be.
	It could be Skunkworks, because Skunkworks help them.
	And maybe they're getting ready to-- like the F-17.
	Yeah, well, first, yeah, well, hey, it's not a real play.
	And then the other thing is he would have survived that crash, really.
	That was real.
	So that was real.
	It was another plane.
	It was an F-14 or whatever.
	great, you just blew up a billion dollar plane.
	I think-- You know the story of that scene where he flies over the guard shack?
	Yeah.
	That was real.
	So that was real.
	It was another plane.
	It was an F-14 or whatever.
	And if you stop it, if you freeze frame it, the whole cement roof of the guard shack was blown off.
	They didn't plan that.
	It was sucked off the building.
	And 71-year-old Ed Harris actually took the full force of that.
	Oh yeah?
	Harris was standing there?
	That was him.
	That was no stuntman.
	Oh, interesting.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, oh, oh.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, for real?
	Oh, my God.
	That must have been like, hey, Ed.
	If anyone could do it, it'd be him.
	Oh, he's so woke, though, Derek.
	Ed Harris is?
	Utterly woke.
	Really?
	He's such a good actor, though.
	Oh, no, that's horrible.
	Oh, yeah.
	I thought... I saw him in a restaurant in L.A.
	once with guys.
	John Glenn is... Oh, no.
	No, no, no.
	Harris, Ed Harris.
	Not John Glenn.
	No, but he played John Glenn in... The Right Stuff.
	The Right Stuff.
	Oh, all right, yeah.
	Yeah, that's depressing.
	And so many other movies.
	30 seconds.
	And he was great in The Rock.
	Oh, he was awesome.
	That was actually excellent.
	We saw that on our honeymoon in Portugal.
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	He's in studio, the gallivanting vice president of the Heritage Foundation.
	Jim Carrafano, Dr. Carrafano, Colonel Carrafano, great to have you back.
	I don't even know what a gallivant looks like, but I have a picture of me on a horse.
	That'll do, that'll do.
	Shall we talk about Top Gun for two segments, or shall we talk about China invading the rest of the world?
	Or Ukraine?
	Boy, I'd love to.
	Well, first of all, I'm not sure everybody's seen it, so if we talk about Top Gun, there are some spoilers.
	No spoilers.
	Well, we'd have to do some, though.
	Like what?
	Well, the number one thing, the single most important thing... You mean that plane doesn't exist?
	Well, nah, in the beginning of the movie.
	But, you know, the whole thing is about they have to do this impossible mission, right?
	And it's like, well, why don't they just use an F-35?
	And so they have, and I won't, they got the GPS, they blanked out the GPS.
	So they come up with this ridiculous excuse of why they can't use an F-35, as if they blanked out the, they jammed the GPS, as if you can't fly an F-35 without this GPS, right?
	Because the reality is, is if an F-35 had done this impossible mission that only the world's finest Navy pilots could, F-18 pilots could do, It would have taken like 10 minutes.
	They would have killed everything.
	Are you saying that this is a fictional film?
	I thought it was a documentary, Jim Carapano!
	So anybody who loves flying, because you know one of our guys is actually the former The captain of the Thunder, the Air Force... Demo?
	Demo!
	He was the... At Heritage?
	Yeah, he was the squadron leader at that, which is one of the most premier jobs you can get in the Air Force, I mean, to captain the elite of the elite flyers, right?
	And so the flying scenes are incredible.
	The flying scenes are crazy.
	The fact that Tom Cruise had all of the actors not only learn how to fly, of course they're in two-seater planes.
	They're faking the fact that they're flying them.
	But the fact that they had six IMAX cameras on the dash, and because the director's on the ground, you know, 200 miles away, the actors who are pulling the G's had to be taught how to operate the cameras.
	So they were cameramen and actors, As they're pulling 7Gs.
	Pretty cool.
	So the flying's incredible.
	It's worth it for that.
	And it does tie in, if we're going to talk about China, which is the US aircraft carrier is an unbelievable combat instrument.
	If you think about the hundreds of thousands of people that fought and died in the South Pacific in World War II over pieces of coral where people wouldn't even vacation, the reason for that is An island essentially is a permanent aircraft carrier.
	It's an airfield.
	It's a landing pad, refueling base.
	And that means within the range of the aircraft, whether there are hundreds of them, you extend your influence and control.
	So with an aircraft carrier, you could show up anywhere in the South Pacific and essentially have a strategic launch point, right?
	So for that moment in time, when that aircraft carrier was there, it was the most powerful thing on the face of the planet Earth.
	Well, let's listen.
	Let's bring it up to date.
	Let's get out of Hollywood.
	This is crazy.
	Whenever I say this, it kind of boggles my mind.
	I campaigned for him when he was a lowly former Green Beret.
	He is now still the only Green Beret in Congress.
	This is Congressman Mike Waltz, who's reading the tea leaves when it comes to China.
	Cutthroat.
	This is our intelligence community's opinion.
	is heading towards some type of conflict.
	Chairman Xi of China is telling his country to prepare for war.
	He is telling his military to be ready to defeat the United States military by 2027.
	And they are putting the place pieces in place, namely outbuilding us in shifts five to one, while the Biden administration retires more ships.
	than its building.
	And as long as Xi is determined, he sees it as a key part of his legacy.
	And his defense minister just said this week that China will fight to the bitter end.
	It will never stop until it takes Taiwan.
	So that's Mike Walts' assessment of what Xi is doing now.
	Then we had, two days ago, one of the party newspapers use this ominous phrase, the same phrase that Putin used with regards to Ukraine, that the PLA, the People's Liberation Army, is now preparing for non-military operations.
	Right.
	Which is what Putin described the invasion as.
	So it really got my attention, that was the news the other day, of the launch of this new Chinese aircraft carrier.
	And if you want to know why that's a big deal, go look at Top Cut.
	What makes the American aircraft carrier so incredible is one is its nuclear power, which means it can sail out there forever, dude.
	And the other is it has these catapult systems, which allows you to launch these advanced planes, and the arrest system, which allows you to catch them when they land.
	So the Chinese just deployed their first carrier with these kind of capabilities.
	So they have the catapult and they have the catch?
	Well, so we don't know.
	Once they figure it all out, which they will, they're going to have an aircraft carrier that's sailing the seas, which is the equivalent of the American carrier.
	But it's not just about hardware, and I think this is the important part of the film.
	It's about who flies that stuff.
	You can have the best hardware in the world, but if you don't have unbelievably talented crews, it's just a piece of metal in the ocean.
	We have some of the finest sailors on the planet Earth with operational combat experience and everything else.
	One of the challenges we have is not just China racing to catch up, but a Pentagon which is trying to dumb down this force.
	I mean, every day we get another story.
	The other day we got one about, well, we're going to let HA be positive people in the military because they're going to be deployable.
	And it's really important to have transgender people in the military.
	They can't be deployable.
	It's important to have woke month.
	You know, it's important to have everybody...
	Hang on, what about the CNO?
	I remember last year the CNO, Admiral Gilday, does this 8-minute video on racism in the Navy.
	They had Abraham Kendi's book, Anti-Racism, which is on a reading list.
	Now, look, I'm all for reading the book.
	I read the book.
	It's complete and utter nonsense.
	But that's not why it was on the list, Jim.
	That's right.
	I mean, I read, when I was at West Point, I read the Communist Manifesto.
	Because as a bad thing!
	Right!
	As a thing to understand, right?
	So I understand, but on a professional reading list of books that are going to help you become a better naval officer.
	And look, I'm all for people understanding what's, for military people understanding what's going on in America today.
	But that's not what's going on here.
	It's just like, you know, they're trying to bring back the Draft Your Daughters bill last year.
	And we can go into chapter and verse about why this is stupid, but people think, well, it's equity and fairness.
	It's none of those things.
	It's exactly what they always do.
	It's the camel nose under the tent.
	They do something and then it just winds up being the first step.
	And before you know it, it's all, you know, rainbow flags.
	And look, okay, I don't have a problem with rainbow flags, but that has nothing to do with military barriers.
	The purpose we have in the military is to fight and defend the country.
	And when we get it wrong, people die.
	And a lot of people can die.
	And so they play politics with the military just like it's something else.
	But look what they do with immigration and border security.
	Are we really shocked that they go after the most important national security instrument in the United States and try to play politics with it?
	I'm not surprised.
	It's because, we saw this under Obama, the military is deemed to be that perfect petri dish for social engineering.
	Let's try these things here.
	They have to obey it because it's a hierarchical structure and then we can do it elsewhere.
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	Eric, do you have, was it yesterday or the day before the cut of Biden, talking about the transgender admirals?
	Ah, yes.
	Let me see, I think it was yesterday.
	Oh yeah, I think it's this one.
	Yeah, I'm gonna tee that up.
	Let's test real quick and see if this is the one, John, because we had two Biden cuts.
	Take it real quick.
	Yeah, this draft for women's... No, that's Buttigieg.
	It's the one before that.
	Yeah.
	You were saying?
	The draft for women's... Yeah, that's good, that's good.
	Why would you push that?
	I don't get that.
	What is the logic of draft for women?
	Well, it's... Why vote for the left?
	It's just another woke thing, but... But who wants that?
	Nobody.
	And what constituents are going to say, yeah, I want my daughter drafted?
	Well, this is why they don't talk about it, right?
	And then there's Republicans on this, right?
	Who say, well, it's equity and fairness and, and it, but it doesn't, it doesn't promote equity for women or fair treatment for women or advanced women in the military because nobody's ever going to get drafted.
	It's a select service thing.
	Yeah.
	So, so it has nothing to do with affecting women's ability to advance in military service or making them equals or anything else.
	I don't know.
	But the other thing is that they always try to kind of slip it in quietly.
	Right.
	Which just tells you that they know it's a loser issue.
	That it's bogus.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to record this thing, Jeff?
	Yeah.
	Hey, Matt, give me two seconds.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	For Boris, what cards did we use?
	We used Maia.
	Convict.
	Why the Maia Flores victory worries the Dems?
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Are we coming in with anything?
	No, just cards.
	Is it cards?
	No.
	Yeah, the coffee tea.
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	I don't know, I should have asked you already, Eric, the evergreen cuts.
	There's a cut from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Cut 7.
	Has that been prepped?
	All right, given what we just discussed with Jim, let's just play that Cut 7.
	It's not ready?
	All right, we'll play it later.
	Jim, it's weird with the fact that we have a war in Europe.
	That attention to it in the news feed really ebbs and flows.
	It's as if for a couple of weeks there is no war, but of course there is.
	So what do we need to keep our eye on still in Europe?
	Right.
	That's a great question because we're in this chronic phase of the war where the line's not going to be moving.
	The attrition phase.
	Yeah, and neither one of them has the combat power really to bring this anywhere decisive.
	So the work could continue for a while, and of course, so it doesn't get the news coverage.
	But it's because if you actually look at the polling, though, the president, support for the president has gone down.
	And I think that's important to parse that, because I think there's two pieces to this.
	There's a difference between American support for the self-defense of Ukraine and how Biden is conducting the war.
	Look, I mean...
	Right.
	One is a matter of principle.
	Well, it's not a matter of principle.
	One is policy.
	One's a matter of self-interest.
	We have a vested interest in seeing Ukraine defend itself because Putin's war against Ukraine is not about Ukraine.
	This is the first stop.
	It's about reabsorbing the post-Soviet states, dictatorial control over central Europe, seeing NATO dissolve, seeing the United States pushed into the sea, which is, by the way, exactly what the Chinese want.
	Everybody wants Europe to be weakened and disorganized, so they're not a good partner for the United States.
	It's not in our interest to see Ukraine fail.
	And to do prudent, responsible things to do that does make sense.
	There are conservatives against the war.
	I get that.
	We have disagreements.
	That's fine.
	But I think the majority of concern that's being raised now has much less to do with does the United States have an interest in helping Ukraine defend itself.
	But how it's doing it.
	And the leadership of this president.
	I think that explains the plumbing.
	So people at home can't see this if they're on the radio, right?
	But Seb Corker has a red phone on his desk.
	It's connected to nothing.
	The red phone.
	The red phone.
	And it's connected to absolutely nothing, which is a perfect metaphor for the Biden administration.
	I mean, the guy's been an appalling leader.
	He's done a horrible job explaining what we're doing.
	He's done a horrible job leading.
	He's done a terrible job managing these physical responsibilities.
	Of course people are upset when you say, I'm going to spend $40 billion There's a good chance that $10 billion of that is going to be wasted.
	I told you, I have the most experienced, smart guy on foreign assistance in the world that works for me.
	He has run multi-million dollar programs, tens of hundreds of billions of dollars in combat zones, and he took one look at the bill, the $40 billion supplement, and he said, there's no way you can spend this amount of money this fast and not have fraud, waste, and abuse.
	The Ukrainians don't even want that.
	The Ukrainian government doesn't want corruption in its country.
	And if you flood the country with more money, you're going to get corruption.
	And you know exactly what's going to happen, because you've seen this before.
	Somebody, some Yahoo political appointee in the State Department is going to write four checks to four big Pizzo buddies.
	They're going to spend all that money with no visibility.
	I think that's what people are upset about.
	They're obviously upset that you're not dealing with inflation, you're not dealing with energy, you're not dealing with the border, and you're haphazardly dealing with war.
	I think that's, when you look at the little poll numbers, I think that's what they're talking about.
	Let's play that cut because we talked about workness in the military.
	I think we've got it now.
	This is still currently, sadly, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	Cut seven.
	On the issue of critical race theory, etc., I'll obviously have to get much smarter on whatever the theory is.
	But I do think it's important, actually, for those of us in uniform to be open-minded and be widely read.
	And the United States Military Academy is a university.
	And it is important that we train and we understand.
	And I want to understand white rage.
	And I'm white.
	And I want to understand it.
	We've only got a couple of seconds left.
	You went to West Point.
	I did.
	Tell us about him wanting to understand white rage.
	What he just said is that's not what this is about.
	This is not about understanding things.
	This is about a political agenda to transform the American military into a political instrument that serves the left-woke establishment.
	It's not about understanding white rage.
	It's not about understanding racism or history or communism or anything else.
	It's about this is how we build a program of political indoctrination to take over and hold this country forever.
	And if a four-star general With decades of military experience as a West Point graduate, has advanced degrees and has been in the Pentagon all these years, cannot figure that out, then we have to ask ourselves, why is this guy wearing a uniform and still working for us?
	You know, I have an idea.
	We should find a big conservative think tank that could do a study on that question.
	Jim, what do you think?
	No, I think... We're out of time, but I think... I probably know one.
	The indoctrination of the military JPME system, the academies, is something heritage could look into and I think I might know somebody.
	Let's talk about that in the break.
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	Sebastian, so great to be with you.
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	So much to discuss this.
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	I'm going to ask you... All right, let me ask you this question first, then I'm going to read to you some statistics about gun-free zones.
	every democrat administration we have to stand on the wall we have to get ready to protect our first civil right that protects all the others and it's easy or it's It's a temptation of gun owners, Second Amendment advocates, hunters and others, sports shooters, to say that this is just a cyclical thing.
	We get used to it.
	When we're in control, it's better.
	When the Dems come, we have to get used to it.
	My contention is that this, what is happening right now, what's happening at the ATF, what they've recommended after Uvalde, McConaughey taking the, you know, the pulpit at the White House, This is qualitatively different and we are under a serious threat environment to our civil rights.
	Am I looking through a glass darkly or do you agree?
	No, I agree.
	When you saw the Senate agreement come down with 10 Republicans that have already signed on, before there's even really clarity.
	As to what that agreement is to they disagree.
	Yeah, we'll vote for it, which puts him puts the Democrats over the filibuster threshold and then you throw in McConnell two days ago.
	I covered it Breitbart.
	He said I'm a yes vote to so now there are 11.
	So when you look at that to your point.
	This is not actually from a Democrat administration.
	The threat we face right now is from 11 Republicans who are willing to drop everything we voted for them, everything we believed in.
	They're willing to drop it and side with the Democrats.
	That's a problem.
	Yeah.
	So, what do we do?
	I don't want to put you in a corner.
	I didn't clear any of these questions with you because we never do that with our guests, but the NRA under Wayne LaPierre is like a zombie.
	They're not active.
	They're outsourcing their political action, to my sources, to consulting firms.
	They're not mobilizing voters like they have for decades prior.
	Do we have to turn to new organizations like Gun Owners of America or the Firearms Policy Coalition?
	You've got millions of people listening to you right now, AWR.
	What should they be doing to ensure that we don't become subjects and we remain armed citizens?
	Right, well my answer is a not an either or but a both and.
	I believe we maintain our membership at the NRA because The ultimate strength of the NRA is the people.
	I agree with you in the sluggishness now, and it seems to be a shadow of its own self, but 5 million members speaks loudly to politicians.
	If they're organized.
	If the organization represents them properly and isn't hiding.
	I agree 100% everything you're saying.
	Everything you're saying.
	And I believe beyond that, You mentioned the Firearm Policy Coalition.
	What a great group.
	That's the kind of group to rally behind.
	I love the Second Amendment Foundation.
	I believe Allen Gottlieb has done great things there.
	And if you look at a lot of these court victories we've got through the years, Sebastian, Second Amendment Foundation's name has been on the majority of them.
	Nowadays, the Firearm Policy Coalition's name is there as well.
	So if you look at those two together, they're like a right hook and a left hook.
	Two great organizations to be part of.
	All right, good.
	Perfect, perfect answer.
	That's why we don't rehearse these things, because we want the real answers from the hip.
	Okay, I have an amazing article here.
	We're going to reach out to this guy as well.
	It's from the Epoch Times, Joseph Mercola.
	Long article, and the most important thing is the headline.
	97.8% of mass shootings are linked to this.
	And you wonder, what are they linked to?
	What kind of a teaser headline is that?
	It's got a lot of analysis on drugs that are being given to young men and everything else.
	But the 97% of all mass shootings, if you read the article page 2, occur in gun-free zones, AWR.
	Talk to us about that shocking statistic.
	Right.
	You know, I think I wrote a piece at Breitbart a few years ago, uh, equating gun-free zones with killing fields.
	And, uh, if you look at the, uh, Crime Prevention Research Center's running data on it, if you look, there's plenty of running data on it.
	Now, the establishment media suppresses it.
	But if you look at it, and if you think right now, you think about these schools where these attacks happen, they're horrible attacks.
	But those schools are gun-free zones.
	If you think about the churches, if you think about, you think about that gunman in 2012, Sebastian, that opened fire in the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado.
	What did we find out a couple of weeks afterward?
	Going through his diaries and things, they found out that he had literally driven around his neighborhood and went to a theater that was further away than a couple of other theaters, but he chose that theater because it prohibited He had actually, amongst the forensic evidence they found, he had mapped out the gun-free zones to target those theaters AWR.
	Right.
	Well, it's like President Trump said.
	I believe it was November 15th or November 2015.
	They interviewed him after the shooting in France where people were shot in the theater.
	And he said, you know, you've got to have concealed carry permit holders.
	He said, bad guys have to figure out that bullets fly both ways.
	And that is a very simple statement, and so the media laughed at him.
	But sometimes brilliance can be simplistic, and he put it in language everyone could understand, and he's right.
	And that's what these criminals are scared of, Sebastian.
	They do not want to open fire At a Texas gas station.
	They do not want to open fire at an Arizona restaurant because if they do, they will get full of holes and they know that.
	Yeah, what a great way of putting it.
	You're right.
	The common sense observation sometimes is all you need.
	Bad guys need to know that bullets fly both ways.
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	And full credit, he's right of course.
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	One of the MTGs.
	I can't hear.
	The one that she talks about, the conditions, is interesting.
	It's the same exact thing that Gus said yesterday.
	Can you play me also cut 9?
	Let me hear that.
	Go ahead.
	I think it's essential to have a free speech and to be able to communicate freely if there are multiple opinions and just make sure that we're not sort of driving a narrative.
	In order for people to have trust in Twitter, I think it's extremely important that there be transparency.
	I think Twitter, in terms of like serious issues, can be a lot better in informing people about serious issues.
	How many times have the media gotten it right?
	I would say almost never.
	Not never, but almost never.
	Thank you.
	Great, come in with that, that's great.
	Come in with cut 9, no liner.
	And then I'll tee up cut 7.
	Yes, come in with that and then we'll tee up cut 7.
	Got seven.
	Forty seconds.
	I think it's essential to have free speech and be able to communicate freely if there are multiple opinions, and just make sure that we're not sort of driving narrative.
	In order for people to have trust in Twitter, I think it's extremely important that there be transparency.
	I think Twitter, in terms of serious issues, can be a lot better than informing people about serious issues.
	How many times have the media gotten it right?
	I would say almost never.
	Not never, but almost never.
	Another exclusive from Project Veritas.
	Congratulations to James O'Keefe.
	That is the internal all-hands meetings for Twitter with Elon Musk.
	It looks like he's not giving up.
	He's not giving up in his deal to buy Twitter.
	And what did he say there?
	Yeah, you gotta have freedom of speech on Twitter.
	And then at the end, the media!
	How often did it get it right?
	Never!
	I think he's woken up.
	Somebody's red-pilled him.
	Yes, I know he still has those dealings with China.
	But he's starting to make all the right enemies here at home.
	So hopefully he'll be able to fix that cesspit that is Twitter.
	Yesterday we had that shocking, shocking information from our guest from the Patriot Freedom Fund.
	That is supporting the families of the J6 imprisoned.
	She shared with us the details of the shocking conditions that the more than a hundred people still in custody after more than a year in solitary in DC have to live in.
	We have a fresh cut from Marjorie Taylor Greene who sadly has reinforced that information.
	Cut seven.
	This is a serious condition.
	These people, when I saw them, and this was months ago, they weren't shaven.
	They weren't allowed to shave.
	They weren't allowed to get haircuts.
	They weren't receiving medical treatments.
	They weren't even receiving proper nutrition.
	And they weren't allowed to see their attorneys.
	They had to choose between going outside or calling their family.
	And this is real human rights abuse, Laura.
	It's a process.
	Um, that is being completely violated.
	Their due process rights are violated.
	And it shouldn't be happening in our country.
	It shouldn't be happening, but it is.
	Those are political prisoners.
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	That's why we do these America First one-on-one interviews with the real experts.
	And we get to drill down on the big issues of the day.
	Not just the experts, but sometimes the experts that are news makers themselves.
	And today is one of those cases.
	Let's tee our guest up with none other than my former Fox colleague, Tucker Carlson.
	Until recently, Ilya Shapiro was a lecturer at Georgetown Law, one of the most prominent.
	Then he criticized Joe Biden's decision to nominate a Supreme Court justice on the basis of race.
	Because race is irrelevant to judicial temperament, knowledge, experience, wisdom, etc.
	For saying that, Georgetown Law put Shapiro on leave.
	They announced a months-long investigation.
	Now, the probe ultimately cleared Shapiro on a technicality, but he says he's leaving the school anyway.
	And he is with us today, Elia Shapiro.
	Welcome in studio, one-on-one.
	Good to be with you, Seb.
	You joined us for a couple of segments last week.
	Now we're going to get to go a little bit deeper on your expertise on the Constitution, the Supreme Court.
	You've written a book called Supreme Disorder, which in itself is quite telling.
	But let's start at the beginning.
	How did you get to be where you are today?
	Where did you hail from and what have you done for the last few years?
	I was born in Moscow, Russia.
	Moscow, USSR, actually, back then, of course.
	We left when I was four, came to Canada, and sort of took a wrong turn at the St.
	Lawrence Seaway.
	I've always wanted to be American, and so I had to immigrate again, and finally naturalized seven years ago.
	I went to college and law school in the U.S. and did various things along the way.
	I became a lawyer.
	I didn't last too long in big law because I wanted to be in the world of ideas and policy.
	And so I went to the Cato Institute for nearly 15 years.
	You ended up as vice president.
	Vice President and Director of Constitutional Studies there, yep.
	And I figured, you know, after the book came out, several promotions, I thought, you know, let's try a new challenge.
	And an opportunity presented itself at Georgetown Law School to become the Executive Director of their Center for the Constitution.
	Of course, most of the rest of the law school is the Center against the Constitution, but I thought that this place would be good for me to have a different kind of impact on public affairs Well, we'll talk about that tweet in a second, what transpired and what decision you took just a few days ago.
	days before I was due to assume that job is when I tweeted and the whole firestorm began.
	We'll talk about that tweet in a second, what transpired and what decision you took just a few days ago.
	But first things first, I need to know, why you said that you took a wrong turn and you're wanting to come to America, but why do you want to come to this racist nation that's full of homophobes, Islamophobes, and racists?
	well maybe back in eighty one it wasn't quite the case but uh... no i mean all my parents who were you know uh... soviet jews as as during the first wave most people were who who left the USSR they were ceramic engineers and all they taught me about politics was uh... communism's bad And I sort of took it from there, and read history, and then got to high school, began reading about the Enlightenment, and John Locke, and the Founding Fathers, and... In Canada.
	In Canada.
	In Canada.
	In fact, I was... It was good that I was into sports and big for my age, because I probably would have gotten beaten up.
	I had... In my locker in middle school, I had... We had a subscription to Time magazine, and I cut out pictures of Ronald Reagan and George Bush and put them in my locker, and actually pledged allegiance to the flag every morning.
	So it was a Baywatch pin-up.
	No, no.
	It was the Gipper.
	That's right.
	In my locker in Ontario, in Canada.
	Wow.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Wow, that's incredible.
	Okay, so let's talk about the story.
	It was the period when they were choosing a Supreme Court nominee for this administration and you said the following.
	Objectively, best pick for Biden is Sri Sreenivasan, who is a solid progressive and very smart.
	Even has identity politics benefit of being first Asian
	parentheses Indian American but alas doesn't fit into latest intersectionality hierarchy so we'll get lesser black woman thank heaven for small favors now you know their abbreviations here it's done in the limitations of microblog like like Twitter so let's expand on it what was do you stand by that tweet and if so what were you saying in a fuller explication
	I would have phrased it differently.
	It was a failure in communication that, in part due to Twitter's limitations, in part because Twitter kind of provokes you and I was upset about Biden limiting his pool of candidates by race and sex.
	And so as I was doom-scrolling late at night in my hotel room, not a good practice, I thought, you know, I'm going to fire this off.
	Anyway, that's when...
	What was the logic?
	Yeah, so the point was, I was in Austin, Texas, and in fact, news of Justice Breyer's retirement leaked that day while I was on the plane.
	I landed, my phone was blowing up because I'm a Supreme Court expert, and so media wanted comment, and I issued a statement, did some radio during the day, and was still thinking about, you know, what line I was going to take on the confirmation battle to come.
	Thinking about who the contenders were.
	I mean, I, you know, I study these people.
	I know who the federal judiciary is, who the possible people that Biden would be thinking about.
	And I thought, you know, if I were a Democratic president, I would go with the chief judge of the D.C.
	Circuit, Sree Srinivasan, who was a finalist for the nomination that Obama eventually gave to Merrick Garland.
	So, female, ethnically Indian?
	A male.
	He's a man.
	A male.
	But he is, yeah, and an immigrant.
	He was born in India, as it happened.
	But, I said, look, even someone like that, who would be a pathbreaker of that kind, will not be considered.
	Because they want a female, and he already said a black female.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And when you say lesser black, you're not saying lesser ethnically, but lesser qualified.
	Yes.
	If I were writing an op-ed or a blog post, or as I said in statements during that day, if you're limiting yourself to that particular category, that disqualifies everyone else.
	Likewise, if I'm saying that this person I think is the best, and legal experts can debate who the best person would be, but if I'm saying that person is the best, then everybody else in the country, you, me, and everybody else in the world, is less qualified, is lesser.
	And given Biden's further limitations, that would leave us with a less qualified or lesser black woman.
	And really, I think if it weren't for those three words, I wouldn't be in this trouble.
	It would otherwise just have been kind of a snarky, provocative tweet that wouldn't have launched, wouldn't have given this toehold for my ideological political enemies to seize on that, screen capture it, what's called snitch tag Georgetown, and try to get me fired.
	Snitch tag.
	I spent hours every day on social media.
	I didn't even know the phrase snitch tag.
	Thank you, Professor.
	So you were about to take this position in constitutional law at Georgetown.
	Full disclosure, I have been an adjunct faculty member.
	I've taught post-grad courses at Georgetown.
	And then... I'm surprised they haven't hauled you before the Star Chamber.
	Yeah, well that was a few years ago.
	It was before I joined the Trump administration.
	What happened then?
	So you're on this track to take a position, but you tweeted, and then?
	Then I went to bed, and when I woke up, everything had erupted online.
	And I took a look at this, and I'm like, oh, this is not good.
	Not because, oh shoot, the veil has slipped, and I've shown everyone I'm a racist, as some have made it out to be.
	This Russian Jewish immigrant racist.
	Absolutely.
	It's because this is distracting and confusing, and I better take this down.
	And I basically said, sorry if it offended.
	I didn't mean to say it.
	It was inartful.
	So you deleted it?
	I deleted it.
	And then what did Georgetown do?
	A couple hours later, around lunchtime, the Dean, Bill Treanor, put out a statement saying that my comments were appalling and antithetical to everything that we're trying to do at Georgetown to build an inclusive community, and we're evaluating what to do.
	And that day, let me tell you, was the second worst day of my life.
	My mom's passing, and then that day.
	Because I thought I had destroyed my life.
	I thought I'd blown up my career.
	I'd harmed my family.
	You know, all the hard work that I had done to vindicate my parents' sacrifices to immigrate and everything from day one, gone in a tweet moment.
	Uh, and so I, I instantly tried to start working with, uh, a great organization called FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights.
	Now, in expression, they've expanded.
	Used to be in education.
	Now they've expanded their remit.
	Uh, and others... Say the name, say the name again?
	Uh, the Foundation for Individual Rights in Expression.
	I told Greg Lukianoff, their president, I want to be one of their biggest fundraisers now because they were indispensable, not just for me, but whenever professors or students have gotten in trouble on either side.
	They are not a conservative organization.
	They're a speech organization.
	And, you know, they helped me with crisis management, with public relations, eventually provided a lawyer as well.
	And they, and good friends that I'm fortunate to have who work in PR and politics and media, defended me and started a pushback.
	So at least in those initial days, I was not fired.
	And what happened was the dean said that I would be onboarded, I would assume my position, but immediately would be suspended with pay pending investigation into whether my comments violated the agreement.
	So a few days ago, you resigned.
	You decided, I'm not going to take this position.
	And now you've gone to Manhattan Institute.
	That is the denouement, as it were.
	But there were four months in between.
	We'll talk about that in a second.
	He's using fancy French words here.
	He's Elio Shapiro, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
	He is the author of Supreme Disorder.
	Let's get that up on the Chiron, that organization fire.
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	Ilya, you told us there was an interstitial, there was a period of what, three or four months between the quote-unquote suspension and investigation.
	Then that ends with a kind of Pyrrhic victory for you.
	What does Georgetown say?
	Right.
	So it was four days of hell followed by four months of purgatory.
	And then two weeks ago, as we're recording this, was when the dean told me that the diversity office, the Orwellian-named Office of Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, and Affirmative Action, had finished their report, and they found, because some lawyer looked at a calendar, that since I had not been an employee when I tweeted, these policies that they were investigating me under didn't apply in the first place.
	So a technicality.
	Technicality.
	And I celebrated that.
	I took that technical victory.
	It didn't feel quite right, but I'll take it.
	I get to do my job, all right.
	But then when I dived into this report that they sent me later on, it dropped in my email inbox a few hours later, along with my lawyer and my wife, who's a better lawyer than all of us, it became clear that it wasn't just a technical victory, but they were setting me up for a fall.
	They basically said that if I ever said anything similar where anyone claimed offense or discomfort, then that would constitute a hostile educational environment and I'd be subject to discipline.
	And I said I can't work under those conditions.
	I wrote a detailed four-page resignation letter explaining exactly how Georgetown's standard was illiberal and not protective of speech.
	Is this separate from the op-ed you did?
	It's about twice as long as the Wall Street Journal op-ed.
	As the Wall Street Journal op-ed, but the The op-ed was about a summary of my piece.
	The key points being that it's a subjective standard.
	If anyone's offended, it's a heckler's veto.
	They shut me down.
	Because it's totally subjective.
	Offense is subjective.
	Yep.
	So you would be in an untenable position where you'd be walking a tightrope that could be yanked at any point by anybody.
	And indeed, inevitably would have been.
	It's not just foreseeable, but clearly what happened is I gave four very realistic hypotheticals like I'm commenting on Supreme Court opinions and laud their decision to protect gun rights or say that when they take up affirmative action this fall that I think racial preferences are antithetical to the Constitution.
	That, somebody could complain about that.
	Pull out the old tweet and say, "Oh, look, it's a racist." That's right.
	That's right.
	Now you have moved on.
	Oh, first things first, you were very outspoken in my first interview with you, and we love that.
	How many years were you at Cato?
	Almost 15.
	And these are supposed to be the champions of freedom of speech and libertarianism.
	How did they help you in the last four months?
	They were completely silent.
	Nothing.
	I mean, friends of mine, personal friends... No, no, but as Cato.
	But as Cato and public statements, there was nothing.
	So the champions of freedom did nothing to support their former vice president?
	That's unfortunately the case.
	All right, just wanted to get that on the record.
	And now you have moved your senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
	Yes, and director of their Constitutional Studies program.
	We love it, we love it, we love it.
	Okay, let's move on from the personal story.
	Let's talk about your area of expertise.
	You've written the book Supreme Disorder.
	And you should get Manhattan on the thing so they can support, your viewers can support that too, because it's a wonderful organization.
	No, first we put thefire.org, it's right up there in the corner, you can see it right now, thefire.org.
	They have a whole page about my case.
	All the writings, professor's letters, etc.
	Support Professor Shapiro.
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	You should subscribe to their journal as well.
	We'll put that up as well.
	Eric is feverishly writing chyrons in the background.
	But let's have a little grad school session for a few minutes.
	I'm not a lawyer.
	I took an international law course for my MA in international relations.
	Well, you know, it's your accent that makes me use these fancy words.
	Oh, I like it!
	I mean, just drop them in any time.
	The more Latin, the better.
	But I took an international law course, which I enjoyed immensely.
	But let's look at the American unique case, the oldest constitution of its kind in America.
	Let me start with 101.
	What is the purpose, what is the mission of the Supreme Court in America?
	It's pretty clear, or shouldn't it be?
	The mission of the Supreme Court is to decide cases or controversies that are properly before it.
	And what does that mean?
	Well, sometimes it's a private party against another private party, and the courts below are all mixed on how to decide these sorts of legal issues, because typically, the lower courts, the federal circuit courts, will decide issues, and if there's no split, then the Supreme Court won't take up that kind of issue.
	But sometimes, even in private contract cases or business cases, the Supreme Court takes those cases.
	But the yardstick is whether or not there's a constitutionality issue, right?
	Well, it's not just constitutional issues.
	But it's not any kind of law.
	In this country, it's pretty much any kind of law.
	If there's a federal component, the Supreme Court will not decide state law issues.
	Right, exactly.
	So, why do you title your book, The Supreme Disorder?
	My book is about the politics of judicial nominations and confirmations.
	Going back to George Washington.
	I mean, George Washington had a Chief Justice nominee rejected for political reasons.
	It did not start with Robert Bork that all of a sudden politics entered the question of how we pick judges.
	And so I wanted to learn about and tell that story of, you know, how we got to where we are, where seemingly most people agree that we have kabuki theater with these hearings, and it's a toxic battle, and it's kind of a net negative, and Supreme Court's in the muck with the rest of our politics.
	So how did that come about?
	And that's what this, uh, that's what my book is.
	All right, you've got to get the book Supreme Disorder.
	It's about the nomination process.
	It didn't start with Bork, of course, but it is getting rather absurd.
	I have to ask one... And, Seb, it's coming out in paperback July 5th.
	Oh, excellent.
	So, updated for... it originally came out two years ago... For the recent.
	For the most recent confirmation.
	Let me ask you your reaction, just very briefly, to the idea that a Supreme Court Associate Justice nominee cannot define what a woman is whilst being a woman.
	That was probably the weakest part of her testimony.
	I thought she did pretty well overall in her testimony, because again, the job of someone, of a nominee, in that hearing isn't to prove how smart they are, like Bob Bork, and treat it like an academic seminar.
	It's to seem nice and gracious and kind of, you know, decent level of smarts.
	She could have avoided the politics, obviously she was playing politics with the answer, but she could have said an adult human female.
	Yes.
	That's what she could have said.
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	Alright, let's talk about news items that we have to address.
	It's not about nominee process.
	It's not about the politics of trying to look nice during a nomination hearing, but the leak of this Roe and Casey document.
	I've read it.
	I actually was amazed by how It's not a legal document per se.
	It's a historic tour de force.
	I actually read parts of it onto video so people who hadn't read it could understand why it was such an amazing document.
	Can you put it in the context of the Supreme Court, just the leak of a 70-page pre-decisional memo?
	It's never happened before.
	We have had certain kind of leaks.
	Roe v. Wade itself, the result was leaked.
	I believe it was to Time Magazine two or three days before the decision came down.
	But nothing like this.
	A draft, you know, from months earlier that was nowhere near being final being leaked.
	That really disrupts the operation of the court because it prevents the justices from being able to trust each other.
	Toxic environment among the clerks.
	has caused chaos in our streets and in our political system as people assail the court and even an assassination attempt ultimately against the justice.
	So this has been, cannot be understated how damaging this has been.
	And, you know, just because we, it's six weeks later now, and we don't know who the leaker is, The investigation is ongoing.
	Doesn't mean we won't find out.
	I mean, I think actually what'll happen is once the term is over and the clerks are all gone from the court, the leaker, which is presumably a clerk on the left for one of the more progressive justices, will announce him or herself in the pages of the New York Times.
	So they can take the accolades.
	So they can become a hero and... Like Anonymous did.
	Like Miles Taylor, the DHS appointee.
	Get a position at Yale Law School or MSNBC.
	Yes.
	What about more seriously the concept that is being spoken whilst Supreme Court justices' lives are in danger?
	Is this a real threat?
	I know we have history of this being attempted before.
	Is it feasible?
	And what would happen as a consequence to the probity of the court?
	Well, the court size has been changed for political reasons in our history, and it's not just FDR's failed attempt to do that in 37.
	as the court grew from originally six people up to 10, then back down to nine.
	Each of the change, some of it had to do with the country growing, but all of it had a political component as well.
	But we've been fixed at nine since 1869.
	By law, this is not in the Constitution, so all it would take would be a law.
	And that means, for practical purposes, you have to overcome the filibuster in the Senate.
	But I don't think it's simply Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema that are preventing this.
	I don't think there's even 30 votes in the Democratic caucus.
	Really?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	Why?
	I think there's 15 to 18 or 20 Democratic senators who are thankful for Manchin and Sinema saying we're against removing the... because it's such a radical change.
	Explain why.
	Explain the downside of packing the court.
	It would politicize the court.
	So if the charge is that the court is illegitimate because it's politicized, changing its size for blatantly political reasons would discredit it.
	It would make it into the super legislature that everyone entails it to be.
	Don't we already look at the court?
	I mean, everybody has the scorecard.
	He's a conservative nominee.
	She's a Democrat nominee.
	It's already a quasi-political beast, is it not?
	for some people and some elites who like to have food fights but in general the court is the most respected federal institution we have other than the military uh... and uh... uh... blowing it up and making it completely political and you know with explicit d's attached to their name rather than just figurative ones uh... it's it's not that it's not going to legitimate the court somehow and i think a lot of senators uh... recognize that and they're just not ready you know to the extent that
	Anyone is going to be convinced to blow up the legislative filibuster.
	I don't think they're going to do court packing as their number one issue.
	I want to drive down on this a little bit further.
	Why, given what we've witnessed in the last 17 months, open border, the shutting down of the energy sector, the seeming radicalization of the Democrat Party, why do you think it's such a minority It's a hyper norm, I guess you could say.
	And why do you think they're afraid of doing it?
	I'm curious.
	It's a hyper norm, I guess you could say.
	It's such a big barrier that, you know, it would pretty much be the last thing to fall before we became a purely might-makes-right sort of majoritarian governing system.
	Of all the checks and balances that we have, the court being an independent institution and, yes, people from time immemorial have complained about conservatives and liberals or Republicans and Democrats on the court, but this would make it so blatant that it would be...
	Again, I'm a simple constitutional lawyer, not a political analyst, but everything I've read, everything that, you know, people who follow this very closely, like I said, I don't think there's more than 30 votes to pack the court right now.
	I think that's an oxymoron.
	A simple constitutional lawyer.
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	Now you had a limited or even a stillborn academic career.
	academic career.
	So, this question may seem to come out of left field, but given you are a constitutional expert, and it is the First Amendment, I'd like to spend a few minutes on freedom of speech.
	Not just academic freedom, but freedom of speech.
	If you look at the history of freedom of expression, academic freedom, freedom in the media, Do you see the current situation with censorious attitudes on social media, with cancel culture seemingly resulting in people losing their jobs?
	Are we in a qualitatively different place right now?
	Does it disturb you, the state of the First Amendment?
	Well, the First Amendment refers to government censorship, and I think we're doing pretty well there.
	The Supreme Court is the most speech-protective court I think we've ever had right now.
	There's not really government trying to censor people.
	Can I just jump in there for a second?
	Because I heard this argument, and I want to run it past you, that when we see Two months ago, less than, seven weeks ago, a former president gave a speech at Stanford saying, you know what, it would be good, given all the disinformation out there, if government created a body To manage information.
	And literally six days later after Obama's speech, the Department of Homeland Security, which is a law enforcement agency with employees that carry badges and guns, launches the Disinformation Governance Board.
	Aren't we in an age where the line between non-government and government suppression of information is getting very blurred?
	If you look at Palo Alto, Twitter, the overlap of Democrat wants and social media censorious action.
	Is it a bright line still?
	Uh, brighter than most, I'd say.
	I mean, certainly that disinformation, uh, thankfully, which was stillborn, talk about a stillborn thing.
	So far.
	Yeah.
	So far.
	That's, that, that would be dangerous.
	Um, but most of the threats, you know, where I was going with this was that we do have threats to our, you know, civil discourse and, and cancel culture, the, the Overton window of permissible policy views that one can express.
	Uh, that's, that's a problem for sure.
	Now, in society more broadly, I'm seeing some green shoots.
	I'm seeing pushback, the pendulum swinging in part after Governor DeSantis went after Disney.
	You see corporate America in the wake of the leak of the Dobbs draft opinion.
	They didn't start all of a sudden defending Roe v. Wade.
	They knew that that was controversial.
	So Netflix as well, saying if you don't like something that we're putting out, Dave Chappelle or otherwise, maybe this isn't the right place to work for you.
	So maybe there is starting to build, people are paying attention.
	The average person who otherwise wouldn't be concerned with these sorts of things is saying, no, that's not right.
	Maybe there's going to be a pushback, but we're still in the early stages of that.
	In academia, I'm very pessimistic.
	Expand.
	expand?
	It's not the age-old complaint that academia is left-wing.
	It's not the age-old complaint that academia is left-wing.
	When I graduated college nearly 25 years ago, law school nearly 20 years ago, the ratio of liberals to moderates to conservatives then as now is probably about the same, whether on the faculty or in the student body.
	What's changed is that you have radical activists enforcing a rigid orthodoxy and administrators going along with that, placating them.
	Language codes.
	Not in explicit terms, FIRE has been good in getting rid of language codes across the country.
	In fact, most academic institutions, including Georgetown, have great free speech and expression policies on paper.
	But the problem is, administrators are weak.
	They're spineless.
	Bureaucrats, their incentive is to rise by not making waves, by giving the grease to the squeaky, you know, radical left-wing wheel, as it were.
	And you have the growth of bureaucratic bloat, such that in a lot of places, there are more administrators than faculty.
	Again, this is not the age-old complaint about left-wing faculty members that I'm talking about here.
	This bureaucratic bloat and largely in the area of DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, which is another Orwellian name because what these types of bureaucrats do is subvert intellectual diversity, prevent equal opportunity, and exclude those who would have a dissenting view.
	So that's academia.
	You know, again, in society writ large, there are, you know, People are geographically sorting themselves and seeing this cold civil war that people talk about, I think is overstating things.
	But we do have problems in our discourse that I think the pendulum is going to swing back.
	In academia, I don't know, we might be past the point of no return.
	If we look at government, if we look at the First Amendment again in its original mandate or restrictions, what about the FBI and the DOJ using counter-terrorism legislation to monitor and surveil parents who weren't building pipe bombs but who were going to school board meetings and saying, no, I want my children to go back to school, Critical race theory is bigotry.
	I don't want it taught.
	And I want my children, who less than 1% die of anything to do with COVID, I want them not wearing a mask.
	Having federal agencies target people saying those things, isn't that crossing a line?
	As someone who ran for school board last fall, I feel this acutely.
	I was successful in that in Falls Church, Virginia, and that now I do not have to serve on the school board.
	But I've been gratified to see the backlash against that kind of activity by the FBI, by the So you don't think they're going to do it again?
	in cahoots with the teachers unions.
	And so that's obviously a troubling turn, but once it was exposed, it quickly became a scandal.
	And I think Biden took some political hit.
	Glenn Youngkin was elected because of parents upset about what they learned, about what their kids were learning during COVID.
	So-- - So you don't think they're gonna do it again?
	You don't think they're doing it now, Ilya? - Well, school board members are being voted out.
	You had, in San Francisco, you had a prosecutor voted out, right?
	Uh, recalled.
	So, when people are, when things get so bad, uh, you know, as Winston Churchill said, Americans can be counted on to do the right thing when they've exhausted all of their options.
	Yes, indeed.
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	Now, we don't give out talking points.
	We don't rehearse our interviews with our guests.
	I haven't told you what I'm going to ask you as my last question.
	Hopefully, you won't mind.
	We are both immigrants to this country.
	Your parents chose Canada, then you came here and naturalized to the United States.
	I married an American.
	We moved here.
	I naturalized.
	Well, you know, like most immigrants, I, I guess we, do a job that most native-born Americans won't, and that's defending the Constitution.
	Well, you know, this is what I wanted to ask you about.
	Can you just address in a couple of minutes what you are witnessing, at least in popular culture?
	I won't say it's most Americans, but in popular culture where The young generation look at America with these labels of seemingly mindless propaganda that it's white fragility, colonialism, entitlement and the oppression of minorities.
	Is that the America you live in, Ilya?
	It's not, but I'm not so pessimistic overall with Brett Kavanaugh.
	I live on the sunny side of the mountain.
	And, you know, people have been complaining about the kids these days going back to ancient Greece.
	So the jury's still out.
	I mean, I am concerned that their history books are written by Howard Zinn, for example.
	Yes.
	But we've had those same complaints about public schools going back decades.
	But we didn't have elites that had issues with America.
	When you have an elite, when you have a president like Obama, whose first international mission is to go on a literal apology tour for America, what civilization survives having an elite that has a problem with its own nation?
	Yeah.
	That's novel, is it not?
	I think so.
	I think it is.
	Other countries are having trouble as well.
	It's not like...
	They can point to, you know, even when you look at, you know, a lot of socialists look at Denmark.
	Well, the Denmark model is very different than the Bernie Sanders model.
	Yes.
	Or, you know, wherever.
	It's a complicated story.
	I tend to believe that as long as the economy is growing faster than the government, we'll be all right.
	I think we've been underwater in that department for a little while.
	But as we recover from COVID, of course, COVID broke the country and many institutions and our culture in various ways.
	Hopefully we can heal from that as quickly as the country after the Spanish flu epidemic a hundred years ago did.
	You know, you read a few years later, it's like, you know, that was the past.
	Let's forget it.
	Let's not talk about it.
	And we had the Roaring Twenties.
	So we're still living in it, of course.
	And we'll see whether we can, whether we can bounce back.
	Because the heart of America is Americans.
	It's not the politicians.
	It's not the elites.
	It's everybody figuring out how to lead their own little platoon in the pursuit of their own happiness.
	Wise words, perfectly put.

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