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May 19, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	One of the things that you all have done throughout this hearing is just use inflammatory language.
	No, it's a question.
	Ma'am, it's a simple question.
	Have you had human parts, baby parts, arms, legs, as a result of an abortion performed at the time you just acknowledged you performed an abortion?
	I am a physician and a proud abortion provider.
	There is nothing that you can say that makes it difficult for me to talk about the care that I provide.
	Just those words, I'm a physician and a proud abortion provider, tell you everything you need to know.
	That's Yashica Robinson testifying before the house, before Chip Roy yesterday, asking a very simple question.
	When you abort a child, When you actually have to dismember that unborn human child, what happens to the body parts?
	She refuses to answer, because if she did, then the people who support her would know what's really happening.
	What is involved in a late-term abortion?
	I'm Sebastian Walker.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Big news of the day as far as I'm concerned, and I tweeted it out as soon as I heard it, was the fact it's been leaked from the Department of Homeland Security.
	There is an active verified threat assessment.
	against the six associate justices and chief justices that were conservative nominees to the Supreme Court against their lives.
	Threats against the lives of those six justices and their clerks.
	Four clerks that work for each of those justices.
	As a result, the U.S.
	Marshal Service has been ordered to provide security at their homes as well.
	In the meantime, what do we have?
	We have putative, conservative governors that have justices living in their states, such as Glenn Youngkin, say this on live television.
	Play cut.
	Governor Hogan and I have absolutely demanded that Attorney General Garland enforce the federal statute, which is to put people in jail for parading and picketing in front of the justices' homes.
	I don't think he's going to do that, though.
	Do you think Garland's going to step up and do that?
	I will tell you I don't think he will and he absolutely should.
	It's clear in the statute that that's illegal and he should enforce it.
	So what are we going to do?
	We have substantial assets in our state police and we in fact are poised ready to make sure that there's no violence at our justices' homes.
	You're poised?
	What, you're poised with your state troopers at their headquarters?
	It's going to be a little bit late, Glenn, when that Molotov cocktail goes through Justice Alito's front window to his home, or when a shot is fired through the door of Clarence Thomas to have your state troopers poised for action.
	You have a duty, you have a solemn responsibility as the Governor of Virginia to protect the citizens of your state, especially when you just admitted that the Department of Justice and the Attorney General will not do their job.
	It is a federal crime to intimidate a member of the Supreme Court.
	It is also a crime in the Commonwealth to picket outside of private homes.
	Do your job, man!
	I went to speak at an event last night.
	It was combined with a dinner.
	I didn't arrive for the dinner.
	My wife and I had already eaten.
	We arrived half an hour before we had to speak.
	And I sat down at one of the tables in a lovely An older gentleman was sitting next to me, introduced himself, had worked in setting up the Department of Homeland Security under the Bush administration.
	And this was an association for conservatives.
	This was a meeting for Virginian conservatives.
	And he asked me about my show prep, how long I take to prepare for my show.
	I told him the truth.
	But then I said, I listen to a lot of radio to prepare for this show.
	I'm on social media.
	I get hours of talk radio and podcasts in throughout the day.
	So basically we're always preparing.
	Then I mentioned one of the hosts that I love to listen to.
	It's a name I've mentioned many times on this show.
	And this elderly conservative gentleman said, oh yeah, he's okay.
	Except sometimes he just, he's too extreme.
	Yeah, he just goes too far.
	And I, what?
	One of my favorite broadcasters is an extremist and goes too far.
	And I asked him to give me an example.
	What is it about him?
	What is it that he said that's too extreme for you?
	And he said, oh, I don't know.
	I can't recall.
	And then he said this.
	With regards to what we're discussing.
	I just wish this Supreme Court decision hadn't leaked now.
	It's just too much tension, too much division and I wish they'd brought the decision on Roe v. Wade after the midterms because this pro-life thing it's just too divisive.
	This pro-life thing is too divisive?
	I didn't use the gentleman's name, but when I stood up 20 minutes later to give my speech, I talked about what he said to me.
	That the pro-life issue is too divisive?
	What is each side saying?
	On our side we're saying, protect the innocent, protect the unborn.
	Allow the states to be the states.
	The federal government should have no role in this.
	We are a republic of states.
	Return the issue to the states where they can decide whether they want to be abortion or anti-abortion.
	Where representatives will have to argue in front of their constituents and pass laws.
	What does the other side say?
	The other side says this.
	Cut 12 again from Rashika Robinson.
	How about if a child is halfway out of the birth canal?
	Is an abortion permissible then?
	Can you repeat your question?
	If a child is halfway delivered out of the birth canal, is it permissible to have an abortion?
	Would you support the right for an abortion then?
	I can't even fathom that ever.
	I'm not asking you if you can fathom it.
	If it occurred, would you support that abortion or not?
	That's unrestricted abortion, right?
	I can't answer a question that I can't imagine.
	Just like you probably can't imagine what you would do if your daughter was raped.
	If it hasn't happened, it may be difficult for you.
	You're not going to answer this question, but how about this one?
	How does one qualify as fully human?
	What makes a human being?
	What makes a person a human being is them being born, number one.
	That's why we have birthdays.
	You're not human until your birthday.
	We're the ones who are being divisive.
	We're the extremists.
	We're the radical radio hosts.
	That gentleman heard what I had to say.
	If you're not prepared to protect this Republic and the unborn, you don't deserve to live in America.
	You don't deserve to use the appellation of patriot.
	There is nothing more important for a man or for a civilization to protect the innocent.
	Whether they're a product of rape, whether they're in an old people's home, or whether they're going shopping around their everyday chores, Our job is to protect the vulnerable.
	It's not extremism.
	It is our duty.
	And the other side is a cult.
	A culture of death.
	And we must stop them.
	What are you doing about it?
	Are you politically engaged?
	Are you running for office?
	Are you supporting somebody who is?
	Because if you're not, you are part of the problem.
	We have a republic to save.
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	Three and a half minutes.
	John is micing up Matt right now.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	He's coming in now.
	Hey dude!
	You're right there.
	You like it?
	You like it?
	So what brings you to the swamp?
	Oh!
	The bastard's in town and he didn't tell us?
	Alright.
	JL.
	Is this mic on?
	Is it cool?
	I know.
	It's because we're broadcasting on TV as well, so.
	Yeah, Roku, everything, Salem.
	Yeah, Salem News Channel.
	Yeah.
	Hey, John.
	I know, I know.
	Oh my gosh, Breitbart Trucking, that's so cool.
	I love that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I didn't even know.
	I love it, I love it.
	How's things?
	You've lost some weight, haven't you?
	Good, good.
	We're putting batteries in, relax.
	We're gonna swap it out.
	We've got two minutes.
	We're good.
	Thank you.
	You can cut back to sub.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Testing.
	One, two, three.
	Have you got it?
	Have you got it?
	Yeah, have him talk a little bit more.
	Talk a bit more.
	Okay, testing 1, 2, 3.
	Can you hear me?
	I'm not hearing you.
	No?
	Still nothing?
	Then it's a connection issue.
	Talk.
	Keep talking.
	Okay, we're here in Washington, D.C.
	Okay.
	We got him.
	He's just joshing with us.
	He's just making us think our new studio doesn't work.
	Alright, so we're going to talk about the primaries.
	What else are you working on?
	I mean, that's what I'm laser focused on right now.
	So we'll see what happens in Pennsylvania, but I think McCormick's going to win.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Interesting.
	How many votes do you think?
	That's going to be a good thing for Trump in the end, by the way.
	What's the margin now?
	It's around 1,200, so a little under that.
	I think it's 1,100 something.
	Less than 0.5, it's a recount, right?
	Yeah, it's going to head to a recount, but I think that whoever is in the lead going into the recount usually comes out of the recount in the win.
	But I don't think that this is going to be a bad thing for Trump.
	I think it's going to work out.
	All right, let's explain that.
	Good stuff.
	It's going to be tight though.
	It's going to be tight.
	Oh, is there something good we can come in?
	Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
	Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen.
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	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
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	He has been cited in the swamp.
	Not only that, he's decided to grace us with his presence in our brand-new studio, which he says is a little bit intimidating, but it's okay.
	He can manage it.
	He is the Washington Bureau Chief for Breitbart.com.
	My boy, welcome in new studio.
	Dr. G, I heard the word magnificent there a second ago.
	That comes to mind.
	I would imagine that on the other side of the river here up in Washington D.C.
	that the White House is trembling at the size of this studio.
	I would imagine that Joe Biden is afraid of you, Dr. Gorka.
	For two reasons.
	This is a nicer, bigger studio than his fake West Wing, right?
	The one that he built, remember?
	And then also, he still hasn't removed me from my second presidential appointment from President Trump.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, boss, if you're listening, at the Department of Defense or the National Security Education Board.
	I guess he must be afraid, but he's a senile old man.
	Let's talk about magnificent things.
	Your reaction to the primaries.
	This is from the Washington Post.
	This is a news alert from the Washington Post.
	The headline is, Trump's shaky kingmaker status.
	I disagree entirely.
	So first off, the Trump endorsement is stronger than ever.
	Talk about the numbers.
	It's what, 77 for 5 or something?
	I don't know the exact number off the top of my head.
	But it's incredible.
	There's never been an endorsement like President Trump's.
	There never will be again.
	This is historic.
	It's unprecedented.
	And it's extremely powerful.
	The places that we see the endorsement work really well are the places where he endorses ideological allies.
	He supercharges their campaigns.
	J.D.
	Vance is a really good example of that in Ohio.
	A real America first nationalist populist there.
	Ted Budd in North Carolina.
	Another good one.
	It was like Daffodil Vintage wasn't it for Ted?
	Amazing victory for him.
	Huge!
	I mean, it wasn't even 20 minutes after the polls closed before they called it, right?
	Because I was running our live wire for Breitbart on election night and tracking it all as the results were coming in.
	I mean, it was so fast.
	I've never seen an election called that fast in North Carolina.
	And then you've got a number of different House candidates around the country, congressmen, senators, governor candidates, etc.
	There have been a couple times where the president's endorsement has not worked out, right?
	So where is that?
	Nebraska, there was a guy that had all sorts of allegations against him, so it didn't work out there.
	It doesn't look like it's going to work out in Pennsylvania.
	But again, why is it not going to work out in the Pennsylvania Senate race?
	Oz is somebody who has dual citizenship with Turkey.
	He has served in the Turkish army to maintain that dual citizenship.
	voted in the Turkish pres-- do those things sound America first?
	I mean, you know, not necessarily.
	He was on the wrong side of a lot of different major issues, and I think that the other candidates actually ran even more America-first campaigns than those ones.
	Well look, let me say, as a triple citizen with British, Hungarian, and American citizenships, I haven't voted in another election since I moved to America 12 years ago.
	So that's weird.
	I have served in another army, in the British Army.
	But the issue here is, why didn't he come on this show?
	Because we had Kathy Barnett multiple times.
	Right.
	And Dr. Oz's campaign Played the runaround with our producer Jeff.
	Kept telling us he's very busy.
	If you've got three million MAGA listeners.
	It's the same with Dan Bongino.
	I heard Dan Bongino on his show say Oz refuses to come on my show.
	Isn't that a weird sign, man?
	Right.
	Well, and you already saw him trying to distance himself from President Trump in the final days leading up to the election.
	Now look, I don't know how it's gonna all shake out in the end, but it does.
	It's very tight.
	And so the margin as it stands when I walked in here was a little over 1,100 votes separating the two of them.
	But it does appear as though the military ballots that are coming in in the mail that are still being counted are going to swing hard towards McCormick.
	McCormick's campaign did a press call a couple hours ago where they laid it out for reporters.
	I was listening to the call and a senior advisor to the McCormick campaign is confident enough that they said that they are confident that Dave McCormick will be the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania when this is all said and done.
	Now it's going to be a long process as they finish the counting of the ballots and whatnot.
	And then also it will be inside of the half a percent automatic recount law.
	So that process will play itself out over the course of the next several days into next week and probably the next couple weeks.
	But it does look strong for McCormick.
	But either way.
	But let's talk about him for a second because we spent an hour analyzing Pennsylvania yesterday with our superb Salem colleague in Philadelphia, Christy Gall.
	So he's got a military track record, West Point, but also he's got this kind of rap that he's this rich dude from Connecticut, carpet-bagging hedge funder.
	Can he slough that off as a MAGA candidate if he wins?
	I think so.
	I've interviewed David McCormick many times and I think he's right on a lot of the issues.
	So he's endorsed by, of course, Senator Cruz.
	He's endorsed by Robert Lighthizer, President Trump's trade ambassador.
	Robert Lighthizer has endorsed two candidates this cycle, J.D.
	Vance and David McCormick.
	He has not endorsed anyone else.
	Let's stop there.
	When I was in the White House, I wasn't part of the trade council, the National Economic Council, but Steve Bannon put me on there as an observer.
	And we were dealing with, you know, the trade war with China.
	And it was Cohen, who was a disaster, and then Jared, who was very efficient, and Lighthizer, who were on those committees.
	Lighthizer is an ambassador, and I watched him, and he was really impressive, Matt.
	And I'm surprised he endorsed anybody.
	That's very, very interesting.
	Right.
	And then also the National Border Patrol Council stands with McCormick.
	They endorsed him early in the race when he went to the border and toured the border several months ago.
	So again, I think that in McCormick MAGA voters are going to be pleasantly surprised and they're going to get a really strong candidate.
	And I think that's why he did well in this race.
	So getting back to that broader point here of the Trump endorsement.
	So the media wants to try to write off President Trump.
	And look, Georgia, I don't know what's going to happen down there.
	You know, Senator Perdue's run a great campaign, but it looks like based off the polls that Governor Kemp is probably going to win.
	So we'll see.
	But it's still, you know, it's still elections on Tuesday coming up.
	But at the end of the day, the Trump endorsement is the most powerful.
	It does multiple things for actual ideological allies like Vance, Bud, et cetera.
	It supercharges their campaign and helps them power past the establishment.
	There was a time when Vance wasn't in the lead.
	I mean, really just until three weeks before the election.
	There was a time when Bud wasn't in the lead.
	Just a couple months ago, Pat McCrory, the former governor, establishment guy, was leading that race.
	So you've got that.
	And then when President Trump does endorse kind of establishment-y people, He can protect them from other people.
	So the Trump endorsement is the most powerful endorsement in Republican political history.
	He is the undisputed kingmaker, President Trump.
	But it's fascinating.
	A congressman with his own gun store and gun range.
	That's my kind of congressman.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	Jeff Budsman.
	Because I lost it.
	I can get you his guy's contact.
	Bud himself, I don't have his cell, but I can get you in the right direction.
	When it's all said and done too, I'll connect you with McCormick too.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I think he's going to be good.
	Feel good about that one.
	I have to say I'm impressed with Cathy.
	I've known her for 7, 8 years to get 23%, 24%.
	I agree.
	I think she has a bright future.
	I think she's got to clean up some of the stuff.
	And it's probably for the better for her.
	I grilled her on here.
	I grilled her the day before.
	Yeah, and Alex had her on the day before too, and she did the same thing, and she did okay with the questions, but she's got to clean this stuff up, and then I think take another shot at it down the road, and at something, and I think that she does that.
	By the way, I think many of the attacks were unfair.
	I think there were some things that were fair, and that she needed to answer for, and that her campaign didn't do the best job of in the beginning, but I do think that she'll have a bright future.
	Guys, I'm gonna tee up Cut 8 in here for Matt.
	It's also probably better, by the way, that she's not the nominee because she'll have time to get this stuff sorted out for her future.
	If she was, the Democrats and the media would come right at her and I don't know if she'd be ready for that.
	Right.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	Do you do the show on Newsmax too, right?
	Yeah, Sundays.
	Do you do that from in here?
	No, I do that from at home.
	Oh, at home.
	OK, cool.
	Are we coming in with anything?
	Yeah, my mom was watching this weekend.
	She said you had 10 on.
	Yeah, we had the first block.
	How many military ballots are still out in Pennsylvania?
	Because there's numbers all over the place with that.
	I heard there's only 1,000 total that you're seeing last night.
	Oh, there's gotta be more.
	There's gotta be more than 1,000 in Pennsylvania.
	There's gotta be more than 1,000 military ballots.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Got a title line for the Monarch?
	I mean, you've got Carl R. Barracks in Pennsylvania alone.
	Sorry?
	They're gonna break huge for McCormick.
	Oh yeah, because he's Airborne.
	West Point.
	Right, right, right.
	Or Ranger.
	Is he Ranger?
	I think he's a Ranger.
	Alright, 90 seconds.
	Okay, let's see.
	Um, title for the monologue and or DeAngelis.
	Hang on a second.
	Actually, come in with cut one.
	Come in with cut... Oh, Becerra again?
	Yeah.
	Alright, so we're gonna come in with this.
	Um, and then you still wanna tee up cut eight?
	Um, I probably won't get to cut eight.
	Just come in with... It might have been a comms I had up by mistake.
	Cause I did it a couple times the first day, I know.
	Remember I had the comms, you came in... Jeff, is there gonna be a liner then?
	Cause we're coming in with a cutter.
	Are you gonna use a liner or no?
	Are we playing a cut?
	We're coming in with a cut, yes.
	Yeah, then I won't bother.
	Okay, no liner?
	That's how we usually do it, right?
	However we usually do it, we do it.
	Okay, sure, no liner then.
	Thank you.
	We'll do what we can, but we don't produce the formula.
	We don't control the actual production plants.
	We don't produce the formula.
	We don't control the production plants.
	That's Javier Becerra, otherwise known as Baccaria, by his boss Joe Biden.
	That was two days ago, three days ago, sorry to be precise, which is weird because today, according to the New York Post, his boss Slow Joe has invoked the Defense Production Act for baby formula.
	So, do you make formula or don't you make formula?
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	We are back with the Washington bureau chief of the most influential conservative news site on the planet.
	It's BrightBart.com and he's Matt Boyle.
	Matt, I've got to ask you.
	With infants in the ICU literally being reported on NBC because of a lack of formula, this has to play into the midterms.
	Oh, absolutely.
	This is not the signs of a healthy first world nation.
	I mean, this is absolutely unbelievable.
	And frankly, the Secretary's comments there that you heard are an embarrassment.
	If we don't make it here, we should be making it here.
	Yes.
	And while I do think that it's a good thing that Joe Biden has finally invoked the Defense Production Act, what took them so long?
	They've been getting warnings about this for months and frankly years.
	Since March.
	Wow.
	As far back as October last year, there was reporting about this was going to become an issue in the media.
	So, I mean, this is this has been coming for a while.
	They're totally unprepared.
	Look, I call Biden the loser in chief all the time.
	Right.
	Like, but here's why.
	He's so reactive rather than proactive.
	And that's the that's a problem with the leadership style.
	Look, even Barack Obama, who is an awful president, was proactive on many of the things that he did.
	If he saw this coming, as everybody clearly did, Barack Obama wouldn't have let this happen.
	Donald Trump wouldn't have let this happen.
	I never thought Matt Foyle would be saying nice things about Barack Obama on my show.
	I'm not trying to say nice things about Barack Obama, I'm just saying that at least, I disagree with him entirely politically, but he was competent, right?
	Like Donald Trump, who I agree with 95% of the time, or more, on the policies and the politics, he, a competent president, wouldn't have allowed this to happen.
	Never.
	Joe Biden is wrong on the politics and the policy, and incompetent, and that's a deadly mix, and that's hurting people.
	Look, I think that it's absolutely going to factor into the midterms, getting back to your question there.
	I think the Republicans are going to take more seats.
	I think the Senate is much more leaning towards the Republicans now as a result of this.
	Okay, but what about the RINOs?
	I've got to get you to comment on this.
	This is from the Daily Wire.
	Tucker Carlson, most popular cable show in America, $5-6 million on a good night.
	talked about eyepatch McCain with regards to Crenshaw.
	And Crenshaw then gives an interview to The Hill where he calls Tucker a loathsome, gross human being.
	When you have the most popular conservative TV show in America, is that a wise thing for a member of the GOP Congress to do?
	Absolutely not.
	Look, by the way, I'm very good friends with Tucker.
	He was my first boss in politics.
	One of the most talented.
	At the Daily Caller?
	Right, at the Daily Caller.
	That's where I got my start.
	I've been in Breitbart now for 10 years.
	But attacking Tucker Carlson, not a wise move for any Republican, period.
	Not going to work out well for Crenshaw.
	So are the rhinos a dying breed, Matt Boyle?
	I think so.
	I think you're seeing that play out in the primaries right now.
	I think that the MAGA movement is clearly bringing new fresh blood to the Republican Party in House, Senate, and Governor primaries.
	You're going to see a wholly different Republican Party next year when this is all said and done.
	And all these establishment losers better watch out because I think the movement is coming for them.
	And I think the party's changing.
	You know, this movement This movement is stronger than ever.
	This movement is stronger than ever.
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	Thank you.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
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	Big news with regards to 2,000 mules, because the investors are very pleased with the return on their investment.
	and financially engaged in that as well because it's such an amazing amazing movie the evidence of how they stole the election Dinesh has managed to drop the price of the movie it is now only $19.95 audio DVD stream it right now more than a million downloads more than 10 1,000 DVDs mailed out.
	You were told it was a lie.
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	We have the proof.
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	More than 400,000 ballots illegally trafficked in just the cities that Dinesh and True The Vote looked at.
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	Oh, and in addition to that, let me find the news.
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	It is now being re-released.
	It is back in cinemas as of today.
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	But first, this continued to share with you this incredible footage.
	334-6752.
	But first, this continued to share with you this incredible footage, these sound bites from the testimony in the House on abortion.
	This is Dan Bishop talking to an abortion witness.
	Her name is Amy Arambide with regards to gender and pregnancy.
	Cut 14.
	What do you say a woman is?
	Yes.
	I believe that everyone can identify for themselves.
	Do you believe then that men can become pregnant and have abortions?
	Yes.
	That's a witness under sworn testimony.
	Saying that, yes, a man can become pregnant.
	Without a uterus, without a womb, with only XY chromosomes, not XX chromosomes, a man can become pregnant.
	Here we have a doctor, a physician, Yashica Robinson again, explaining why there's a crisis in abortion in America.
	Now, you may have some idea why there's a crisis.
	Maybe perhaps the idea that abortion is considered as a contraception, not the taking of an innocent life.
	No, no, no, no, that's not the answer.
	Dr. Robinson says this is the real answer.
	Systemic barriers, racism, and white supremacy are at the root of both our maternal health crisis and our abortion access crisis.
	White supremacy.
	White supremacy is at the core of the abortion crisis in America and access to abortion and blocking the access to abortion, which is strange because if you look at where Planned Parenthood, the genocidal organization of Margaret Sanger, is mostly locating their clinics, it is where?
	In poor black communities, resulting in the abortion of more than 40% of all black pregnancies.
	So it's actually the obverse.
	It is the reverse of what Dr. Robinson, a black doctor, is saying about white supremacy and lack of access to abortion.
	No, it's the opposite.
	It is the planned targeting of the black community.
	In ways that Margaret Sanger only dreamt about.
	A woman who thought that the mentally handicapped should be aborted.
	That the black population shouldn't have as many children as they do because it was a blight upon this nation.
	A woman who, by the way, as you can see, reenacted based upon original documentation from the 1930s.
	The leadership, the steering committee of the Nazi party was ordered by Adolf Hitler to send a letter of congratulations to Margaret Sanger for her eugenic policies.
	Yes, Adolf Hitler instructed the steering committee of the National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany to write a letter of congratulations to Margaret Sanger, the progenitor of Planned Parenthood, on her eugenic policies.
	An organization that gives out little Margaret Sanger awards today to delightful people like Hillary Clinton.
	Taking your calls on 833-33-GORKA that's 833-334-6752 Antoinette's on the line so it must be Thursday!
	333-334-6752.
	Antoinette's on the line.
	So it must be Thursday.
	Happy Thursday.
	Hi, Dr. G.
	You know, I have a person like you did last night at the dinner.
	I had a woman come up to me today.
	We were in Santa Ana, low-income area for minorities, and telling us that it was none of our business being there.
	I said, you know what?
	We're going to pray for you, but it is our business.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	So, Antoinette, you were there.
	In Santa Ana, in front of one of the Abortion clinics.
	And somebody told you you have no right to be there?
	It's none of our business.
	And she drove up, yeah, she drove up, Caucasian woman, I'm going to say about 60, says, you guys have no business doing this.
	I said, what is wrong with you?
	Unfortunately, California, being the leader of murdering babies, and the leftist ladies, they love to kill babies, is in our thoughts, in our minds.
	Yeah.
	She drove up like that guy you were sitting next to at the dinner last night.
	Same kind of reaction from this woman.
	And I said, you're wrong.
	You're absolutely wrong.
	Life does matter.
	All lives matter.
	And it's been frustrating.
	Dr. Gorka, the movie, The Matter of Life, and you had Father Prado the other day.
	Yes.
	A number of us went to see that movie.
	One of the things that's what's so sad, the churches.
	You know, you want to do outreach, you need to get your people and your churches onto the different Planned Parenthood.
	Whether it's an hour or two hours, you need to start going.
	This is not a money-making thing.
	This is a thing to save life.
	What the hell is wrong with them?
	It is the most important thing and we love it when you call in with your updates.
	There's me with Antoinette.
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	What are the titles in mind, Seb?
	For everything up to this point?
	Yes.
	A block.
	Yeah.
	What was it?
	Oh, yeah.
	90 seconds.
	The attitude that loses us the next election.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh, then Matt.
	Yep.
	The latest from the race in Pennsylvania.
	And D'Angelus as well.
	Um... Corey.
	Something, maybe incorporating that phrase, parents are bold?
	The brutal power of the teacher's unions.
	Good stuff.
	Brutal power of the teacher's unions.
	Okie dokes.
	Excellent.
	35 seconds.
	Clips one here.
	Not coming in with anything?
	No.
	Alrighty.
	Clips one and then tracking shot.
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	Clips one and then tracking shot.
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	Line four. - Oh.
	Hey, how are you?
	Good!
	I'm calling because, you know this woman Jean Pierre?
	Yes.
	The news took over, so she's sitting there and she's calling President Trump a racist in every which way.
	She's the racist, Dr. Gorka.
	She's the bigoted racist.
	If you look at all her tweets and everything, she just sees things so twisted, and she's a total racist.
	He is a realist.
	Plus, I have to laugh, because he has proven himself.
	His record speaks for himself.
	Everything he touched turned to gold.
	He did everything fabulously, okay?
	And so, what in the world, you know?
	It's just so outrageous that they lie through this, and this is so dangerous to have a woman like her.
	Because she's a true racist, you know?
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	There's some incredible interviews of her, video clips that have gone viral in the last 24 hours of her calling the president a bigot and a racist, and now she is the press secretary for the White House.
	You're absolutely right.
	Thank you, Judy.
	Happy Thursday.
	Alicia, San Antonio, where I was just last weekend, line two.
	I miss you, Dr. Gorka.
	I just wanted to know, sir, if you're aware of Michelle Bachman's issue, a clarion call on the World Health Organization.
	I am.
	Good.
	I just listed out, she just listed out a bunch of articles and I have them and people want to look them up.
	They can if you want me to give you one of them that's great, that gives a great information on it.
	Yeah, no, look, I'm familiar with it.
	Anybody can Google or, you know, use DuckDuckGo for Michelle Bachman.
	I'm not as worried.
	I love, you know, Michelle.
	I know she was on Steve Bannon's show talking about it.
	I'm not as worried as she is because there are certain restrictions on what even the federal government can do.
	But I understand.
	People, check it out.
	Look at what is happening in the next WHO convention in a couple of days' time.
	The proposals are absolutely outrageous.
	Australia wants to truly genuflect at the altar of the WHO and hand over their sovereignty.
	That can never happen in America.
	Thank you for that.
	Check it out.
	Alicia's recommendations.
	Look at Michelle Bachman's latest interviews.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	Are you ready? - Okay.
	Ready?
	Jeff, are you ready?
	I got it.
	They're not giving up on this.
	Oh, Kareem Jean-Pierre said that, you know, the disinformer-in-chief, actually, the new anti-Semitic, anti-Israel... Oh, let's talk about that.
	Let's talk about her background.
	She loves the Jewish people in the state of Israel, right?
	Give us who this person really is.
	I mean, this is somebody who's promoted events with known anti-Semites.
	This is somebody who's attacked the state of Israel, attacked attack the Jewish people repeatedly.
	There's somebody who, you know, I was joking, but really has absolutely no regard for the Jewish people or the state of Israel.
	So she's like, you know, an honorary squad member who's now in the White House?
	Totally, totally, totally.
	Okay, let's talk about what she said about the Disinformation Governance Board, the baronies.
	They're not giving up.
	Yeah, clearly they're not giving up.
	This is Karine Jean-Pierre.
	You think the board was mischaracterized, then the disinformation board is being shut down because of disinformation?
	Is that what's happening here?
	Look, I mean, the board was put forth for a purpose, right?
	To make sure that we really did address what was happening across the country when it came to disinformation.
	It's just going to pause.
	There's been a mischaracterization from outside forces.
	And so now what we're going to do is we're going to pause it and we're going to do an assessment.
	But the work doesn't stop.
	We're still going to continue the work.
	The DHS is still going to continue the work.
	There's something a little wicked about Peter Ducey's question there, Boris.
	Because you're creating an entity.
	inside the biggest law enforcement agency of the most powerful government in the world that's meant to fight disinformation but you shut it down and and fire or get rid of its first director stating this we I am leaving this post because of the the false things said about me so they couldn't even the disinformation board couldn't stop the disinformation in creating the board
	Well, it's because the disinformation, quote-unquote, about the disinformation board was real information.
	Was true!
	Was true.
	They are actually being disinformers by calling it disinformation, you see.
	But by the way, this ludicrousness that we're talking about in this beautiful new studio and, you know, I love it.
	Come on, guys.
	Let's give the wide shot to everybody.
	This is great.
	Come on.
	Look at this.
	Look at the location.
	Just a little traveling wide shot on camera four.
	Is that the technical term?
	Yeah.
	Let it slide.
	Come on.
	There we go.
	There we go.
	Come on.
	It's beautiful in here.
	How ludicrous this is, how pathetic it is, only speaks, my friend, to how craven the Democrats have become, and how much they want to keep our free speech down, and how much they want to denigrate Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, MAGA, anybody... Who disagrees.
	The Libs want to denigrate anybody who disagrees.
	It's not just Republicans, they want to denigrate Democrats too.
	They have made 1984 and George Orwell come to life, and it's scary.
	Let's talk about the big news of the week.
	Our old boss has, I think the batting average is 77 for 4 in terms of endorsements.
	Talk about Pennsylvania, what you expect there.
	Talk about, I've got to read this because it just so flipping amuses me.
	This is from The best producer out there, Jeff, who sent me this.
	Oh, Mr. G. Mr. G. It was an alert on his phone from the Washington Post.
	Got to read it.
	This is exactly what it is.
	From the Washington Post.
	This is the headline from the Washington Post.
	This was on Tuesday or Wednesday.
	Trump's shaky Kingmaker status.
	Shaky.
	Because I guess 77 for 4 is, like, pretty bad, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Joe Biden is literally batting zero.
	Nobody wants him to campaign for them.
	He had one endorsement in Oregon, and the guy got annihilated.
	What happened to Terry McAuliffe?
	Did Terry McAuliffe tell him not to come, or did he come to Vig?
	I can't even remember.
	He went!
	He went!
	He asked him not to come for a long time.
	And then he went.
	Then he hobbled over there.
	And then McAuliffe lost.
	The president's power, the strength, the strength of MAGA has continued to be absolutely unprecedented.
	I mean, if you look at Pennsylvania, with Doug Mastriano, he was at, like, 27?
	Yeah.
	I was up at 45.
	Yeah, double digits.
	That's almost a 20-point, not percent, a 20-point increase based on the endorsement.
	And let's be honest with Dr. Oz and, you know, a lot of the people who watch Bannon's War Room and others have come, you know, I was not a supporter of Dr. Oz's during the campaign.
	Who did you like?
	I didn't really honestly have anybody in that race.
	So we invited Oz on we got the runaround from his team they're telling Jeff oh he's very busy we'll get back to you Kathy came on twice and I gave her some tough I mean I've known her for about seven eight years I gave her some tough questions on her military record she acquitted herself quite well so who's gonna squeak it out there?
	Here's my view on this race, and I got a lot of heat from it.
	My view is once President Trump endorsed, that's who I was with, okay?
	Because it's vital for MAGA to continue to be strong, vital for MAGA to continue to win.
	But let's be honest, without President Trump's endorsement, Oz wouldn't be at 32 he's at now, he'd be at like three, okay?
	So, I think from everything I'm hearing this last minute, even right now, some votes are coming in, it looks like Oz is gonna squeak it out.
	Really?
	You don't think the yet-to-be-counted Mailed in military ballots are going to go to the West Point Grand Court.
	It looks like that where they are now, some of those have already been counted.
	OK.
	And the Delta has shrunk.
	OK.
	Either way, it's going to be within, I think, a couple hundred, maybe 1,000 votes.
	Wow.
	It's going to be very tight.
	And you have the mandatory requirement of a recount, because it's under half a percent.
	Right.
	But again, even the fact that we are here speaks to the strength of President Trump's endorsement.
	Yeah.
	Agree with it, disagree with it, whatever you think.
	But that endorsement right now is the most sought after, the most powerful in the history of democratic politics, meaning around the world, not just America, but in the history of democracies, right?
	Because there's always endorsements in other countries as well.
	The power, the strength, and the actionability of the endorsement is unparalleled.
	He's so professional.
	He's such a slick political actor.
	He's even used the word the Delta when it comes to the polling figures.
	We know him as the Baron Boris Epstein.
	Follow him BorisEP.com Boris underscore Epstein.
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	This is the Salem News Channel.
	So it's ten seconds.
	Yeah, ten seconds.
	Look, he had all the candidates on tonight.
	Also my last, who did not come on.
	But did he have McCormick on?
	Yeah.
	How did he perform?
	Three and a half minutes.
	You know what the problem with Kathy was from the beginning?
	She was never... Bikes are on.
	It's fine.
	She was never gonna win.
	But I have to say, I'm bloody impressed.
	Twenty-four points.
	Sure.
	For a newbie.
	But I'd rather... But the thing about it is...
	I think if you have to choose between Oz and McCormick, you really have got to go with Oz, because there's just too much in that, you know, the hedge fund and all, the Bridgewater and all that.
	And then, you know, if it doesn't go that route, it only doesn't go that route because of Kathy Barnett.
	Well, you could say the same thing for McCormick, right?
	It could have been Kathy V. Oz, right?
	Yeah, but you were always, cause she is, they're both, went after the same vote, right?
	That's, that's sort of why.
	I hear you, listen, it's America, right?
	Everybody gets to do what they want.
	They went to Iran, and she's, and I give her a lot of credit, and I praised her on the shows, and you know, it's, it's the most fascinating time in American politics.
	It is.
	But it's very disappointing, the state of Epstein's cigar smoking.
	Honestly, I think this weekend I'm going to Jersey, and I should be in New York on Saturday, and I'm hoping to have a couple.
	You've been smoking nice.
	Yeah, in mornings.
	How do you, does it impact you?
	No, not bad.
	I mean, I wait till after I've eaten.
	I wait till, like, eleven o'clock and, you know, it's not bad.
	And I sit outside when it's nice, so... That's awesome.
	No complaints.
	I mean, I don't have three like I'll do in an evening.
	Right.
	I'll have one.
	You'll have one.
	Right.
	Does it give you energy, you find, or just does nothing?
	It gets me a little bit, you know... Wiry.
	I have it because I'm in a good mood.
	That's when I do it.
	I'm already a little bit, you know...
	Yeah, I'm a little bit happy, a little bit, you know, concentrating on something, like a project.
	I'll have it and it'll keep me at that good level.
	That's great.
	I love it.
	And I went to the coolest flipping cigar bar.
	In San Antonio?
	Oh my gosh.
	It belongs to Cigar International.
	Really?
	Huge.
	Huge.
	And they're walking through... I've never been in a humidor that big.
	I mean, just... and everything.
	Everything.
	Oh, and I went to another one in San Antonio, the one that I showed you, that had every Oliva that I had never seen before.
	That's cool.
	Even that funky anniversary.
	The Lancero.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I had a Lancero when I was in Scotland.
	Yeah?
	You know, I like the... I like the gauge, you know, but it's something about the Lancero.
	I had an 80 gauge in San Antonio.
	An 80 gauge.
	It was superb.
	It lasted me two... I've never smoked a cigar for two hours.
	You're a quick smoker.
	You know, I like to drag mine out.
	I just did a... 45 seconds.
	Documentary.
	PBS Frontline is doing a documentary of where MAGA stands.
	So I had like a 50 minute interview.
	I must have said Rigdon Stolen like 15 times.
	You'll be on the cutting room floor.
	PBS.
	Oh dear.
	There's a...
	Sebastian Gorka, the deepest voice in radio except for me.
	you.
	Thank you, deep voice Dave, yes, although after a few cigars, especially with my buddy the Baron, I can get even lower.
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	This is a cut we've played previously that kind of shocks you when you hear it, but when you look at the face of the person who's testifying.
	I think it gives you an insight into the radicalism of the left.
	So it's a doctor called Yashica Robinson who's the left's witness and the congressman is Chip Roy and she seems to have a problem as a physician answering a very very simple question about this medical procedure.
	This is Cut 13.
	Play Cut.
	Have you performed abortions at that stage, and in doing so, have you had baby parts that you've had to discard or store in some capacity?
	One of the things that you all have done throughout this hearing is just use inflammatory language.
	No, it's a question.
	Ma'am, it's a simple question.
	Have you had human parts, baby parts, arms, legs, as a result of an abortion performed at the time you just acknowledged you performed an abortion?
	I am a physician and a proud abortion provider.
	There is nothing that you can say that makes it difficult for me to talk about the care that I provide.
	So where's the answer?
	Well, that she's a proud abortion provider, that was the answer.
	That was the answer.
	So, you know, it shouldn't be political, Baron, but doesn't an answer like that from a physician who takes the Hippocratic Oath, which states, first, do no harm, that I am a proud abortion provider as a black woman when 40% of black pregnancies are aborted, That's got to play into the midterms, doesn't it?
	When people see that and hear it, doesn't the average American who's maybe not political say, you know, that's just not right.
	You know, here's my question.
	What happened to the Bill Clinton Democrats?
	Bill Clinton used to say that abortions should be rare, safe.
	Legal, safe and rare.
	Legal, safe and rare.
	Or even Obama, who said that partial birth abortions should not exist.
	And now it's like, yay, baby killing.
	That's pretty much where they are, right?
	Yeah, right.
	You remember, you know, the executioner of Richmond, right, Northam?
	Ralph Northam.
	Oh, yeah, sure, then, you know, baby's born, then you decide what to do with it.
	What?
	Excuse me?
	I mean, is that gonna then expand to grandma and grandpa?
	Oh, well they're old, you know.
	And this all plays into that 1984 dystopia of the libs.
	They become so radical.
	But does it have political consequences?
	Absolutely.
	So when you see right now Supreme Court Justice Holmes in Maryland and Virginia being picketed.
	Today, this is the breaking news of this morning.
	DHS threat report.
	All six Republican-nominated justices have credible death threats against them, their families, and their clerks of the court.
	And the U.S.
	Marshals are being deployed.
	U.S.
	Marshals are being deployed against judges' homes.
	It's absolutely horrible.
	It's absolutely horrible.
	What's happening again with the woke libs is they've... We've talked about this for years now.
	Yeah.
	They've marginalized themselves so much to where the American people just don't pay attention.
	You know, I thought the cut you were going to play is where the woman couldn't... It was said that men could have abortions.
	Yes.
	Hello!
	It's a dude.
	Okay?
	Dudes can't have babies.
	All right, let's do it.
	Cut 14.
	Play it for the Baron.
	What do you say a woman is?
	I believe that everyone can identify for themselves.
	Do you believe then that men can become pregnant and have abortions?
	Yes.
	What?
	I'm sorry, even five years ago?
	No, no, no.
	It's out of the mainstream.
	So how did we get here?
	Is it our fault as conservatives that we let this insanity to where a doctor says stuff like this?
	No.
	It's actually a huge achievement of ours that we have driven the left and the radical woke to such marginalia that that's what they're left to.
	And, you know, the Calvin Klein... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The pregnant guy.
	Because here's the deal.
	If you polled Americans and gave them a little bit of truth serum, okay, that The question of whether there are only two sexes would be like 99% yes, there are only two sexes, okay?
	This is not where America is.
	This is not where the American people are.
	So do you think it's to our benefit?
	Yes.
	You said we push into the marginalia.
	Or it could be reversed.
	It could be said they're so sure of themselves that they're prepared to say insane things in public.
	Let them be sure.
	No, I don't think they're sure of themselves.
	I think they're just deranged.
	I think they're just deranged.
	And most of Americans see that.
	You know, they see through this.
	I mean, it's literally crazy talk.
	Yeah, it is.
	And we say that to each other, and we know it's true.
	But the way we talk is how a huge, overwhelming majority of Americans... Lex!
	And also, let me say, this is very important.
	Yeah.
	Do you think the Hispanic American community, being as conservative and Catholic as a lot of the community is, are on board with this?
	Do you think the African American community is?
	Absolutely not.
	No, definitely.
	So I was at a dinner last night with some conservatives.
	Was it tasty?
	I'd eaten at home because I'm on my new diet, so I arrived late to give a speech.
	And afterwards, this heartbroken conservative lady came up to me and she said, she asked my advice, Boris.
	She said, my son has just come home from a well-named university here in the DC area and said to us, I think I'm gay.
	Not, not I am.
	Clearly it's a kind of peer group, hey, trendy, I think I'm gay.
	And she said, what do I do?
	It's like, it's hard to answer that question.
	So what did you say?
	I said, I gave her my private card and I say, email me, because this is a function of, he wants to be cool.
	This is what he's being told is cool.
	This is the new, whether it's transgender with it.
	And she said, I know he's not gay, right?
	I know this is a group function of some kind of trend.
	But again, isn't there some culpability on our behalf that we were too busy building our businesses, paying the rent, to actually understand what these crazy people were doing?
	Yeah, and you know, it's also, there's parts of this, right?
	Hey, if people are gay, they're gay.
	That's their choice, right?
	If it's real, if it's a fashion trend that is being indoctrinated into them, then it's another issue, isn't it?
	I'm not a scientist, I'm not a psychiatrist, whether it is a choice you're born with, whatever, but if you're being pushed into it, and especially in college, one thing, there's kids, my little boy is six, And you're telling me if in first grade somebody starts talking about how, oh, you can be whatever gender you want?
	My kid's not staying in that school.
	I'm not having him indoctrinated like that.
	So we do have to be vigilant.
	We do have to be strong.
	And yes, we do have to focus on it.
	And I think, you know, I think we are.
	But I will tell you, I think in terms of politics, the elections of it all, it very much hurts the Democrats.
	There will be consequences and he's going to be right there on the tip of the spear of MAGA.
	Follow him everywhere.
	BorisEpstein, BorisEP.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Next up, we love him, that guerrilla journalist, Armie Horowitz, with his latest video.
	Don't touch that dial.
	Oh, really? really?
	Come on.
	Thanks for having me.
	Cigar soon?
	I'm here next couple weeks.
	Oh, you know what?
	I will be here.
	Oh, you know what?
	I will be here.
	Because we're going to the shore the following weekend.
	That was cool.
	I like it.
	That was so different.
	They did a good job.
	Yeah.
	So is there another version you can provide us?
	Thank you.
	We have him on Skype.
	One minute.
	Let Mr. Horwitz know the mics are live.
	Can I see him?
	Go ahead and give him the screen.
	How's the audio?
	Not bad.
	Hey, buddy.
	Hey, man.
	How are you, buddy?
	Good.
	How you doing?
	Yeah.
	I'm good.
	I'm good.
	All right.
	So this video was about what?
	Where were you?
	I was in the East Village asking people on the left about the Supreme Court.
	Oh, good.
	All right.
	All right.
	Standby.
	You're gonna have to walk us through it because the file is too big.
	Standby.
	20 seconds.
	Oh, and are you daily wire now or daily caller?
	No.
	No.
	This would have to be a daily wire.
	I decided to forward daily wire, but... Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	All right, stand by.
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	Somebody Hasn't been on the show in far too long, and we're delighted to welcome him back.
	He says he's a gonzo journalist.
	I call him a guerrilla journalist and an artist in the irregular warfare of the media age.
	Armie Horowitz, welcome back to America First.
	It's always a pleasure to see you, Seb.
	Oh, you handsome devil.
	Look at that.
	Look at you.
	Very kind.
	He must have noticed that I've lost weight.
	Listen, Armie, greetings first to your mother.
	I hope she's watching in the other room.
	We love having knowledge of those larger fan bases we have out there.
	But we have to get to work.
	First things first, you are a brave man who goes into Interesting places, asking interesting questions.
	Where did you go for your latest film, and what is the question that you asked, Armie?
	So I braved the dangers of the East Village of New York.
	And I went down there, and I spoke with people on the left, and I asked them a very simple question, right?
	The Supreme Court, it looks like they're going to decide against Roe v. Wade, and of course, people's heads start to explode.
	So I wanted to find out, well, what do they think about the Supreme Court?
	Because they're always attacking the Republicans, the right, as being, you know, anti the institutions of the United States, right?
	I keep referring to that one incident, of course, at the Capitol building, But I wanted to get a sense of what they feel like, because at the end of the day, who are the group, what is the group that wants to tear down all the structures, that wants to destroy everything, all the foundations of this country?
	It's the left.
	So I went there to show it and see if that was really true.
	I asked them what they thought of the Supreme Court.
	That was the basic idea behind this video.
	Alright, well I've just reposted the whole video on my Twitter feed, Seb Gawker.
	You've got to follow this man right now.
	You've got to go to his webpage.
	You've got to go to his Twitter feed.
	It's armyhorowitz.com and at armyhorowitz.
	But just tell us, Give us a little tease as if you're making a Hollywood trailer, Armie.
	What kinds of things did they tell you in the East Village about that scary thing called the Supreme Court?
	Okay, so I'll do the theater of the mind, right?
	I'll set it up.
	So I'm walking outside and I'm asking people, I start with a very simple question.
	Is the Supreme Court legitimate?
	Is it still legitimate?
	Does it have any legitimacy at all?
	And I said, There wasn't a single individual, not one, that I asked that question to who said that the Supreme Court was in fact legitimate.
	They all said it has lost all legitimacy, not just because of this latest issue with Roe v. Wade, but going way back because, in their words, it only represents the 1%.
	It only represents the white man.
	And so I said, OK, let's see how far we can go.
	Then I said, well, should we ban the Supreme Court?
	Let's step it up a notch and see what they say.
	Again, the vast majority of everybody I spoke to said we should absolutely ban the Supreme Court.
	And there wasn't a single person who said we shouldn't ban it.
	The only people who didn't say we should ban it said, well, I'm not so sure.
	I need to just verify this.
	Everyone you spoke to didn't just have problems with the Supreme Court, which actually over-represents minorities because the black community is 12% of the population.
	There's only nine justices and at least one of them is black that I know of.
	In fact, there are two that are black.
	So that's over-representative.
	The white community is under-represented.
	But it's not just that it's problematic to use their language.
	They wanted to get rid of it.
	They wanted to get rid of it, but said, we're not done yet.
	So, okay, they want to ban it.
	They want to destroy it.
	They want to take it down.
	Well, how far can we push this thing?
	So then I use the language that they love to use.
	And I said, should we have an insurrection against the Supreme Court?
	And people said, wait a second, do you mean an actual physical rebellion?
	You mean we should go in there and tear the place down?
	And I said, yes, should we do that?
	And of course they said, Yes.
	Now we're at probably, I would say 60 to 65% of the people I asked, should we have an insurrection, said we absolutely should.
	And again, to be clear.
	Stay there.
	Stay there.
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	How many people do you think you spoke to?
	30?
	40?
	And when you do that, how many people are you?
	Is it like three people?
	Is it like cameraman and a sound guy?
	Cameraman, sound guy, and me.
	Wow, that's crazy.
	Sometimes we have a PA.
	And is it all, you know, people with their New Yorker under their arm?
	No, they're not that intellectual.
	That's insane.
	Abolish the Supreme Court.
	More than that, they wanted to physically tear it down.
	I can't underscore this enough.
	These people want to destroy this country.
	Full stop.
	This is not like a debate.
	No longer a debate.
	Look, the reason why I do this... Save it for the radio.
	Save it.
	We've got 70 seconds.
	Save it for the radio.
	How's your mom doing?
	She's great.
	She's listening in Los Angeles.
	Good.
	Oh, she's on the West Coast?
	Yes.
	That's where I grew up in Los Angeles.
	Greetings, Mom.
	Can you use any video cuts this segment?
	I might, but I don't think I need to because Armie's got enough to say.
	How's the audio quality?
	Not bad.
	It's a little bit roomy, like you're in a room.
	I put on a loud.
	It's not bad.
	but I put on a...
	No, it's not bad.
	It's not bad.
	If we do Newsmax, I'll go into the studio so we'll get a good quality...
	Good.
	All right, kill them, Mike.
	Good.
	Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good.
	Good. Good. Good. Good.
	I'm sorry, it's so funny to listen.
	I'm laughing so hard about the Swalwell story, I got sidetracked.
	You're still laughing at President Swalwell and his lack of control?
	I'm trying to think of the nickname that President Trump will come up with for him.
	Oh, yes.
	You know it's coming, don't you?
	Oh, it's sneaking out right now.
	Hey, listen, I wanted to thank you.
	It's sneaking out?
	You cheeky girl.
	Oh, terrible word, sorry.
	You know, you kind of switch to the stations, you hear your voice, you're like the Barry White of conservative talk radio.
	The Barry White of Conservative Radio.
	I like that.
	I love those liners.
	Thank you, Mr. G, for pulling those up.
	And what is a good nickname for Swalwell?
	The, uh...
	Congressman with the gas control issues.
	We'll leave that up to President Trump to come up with.
	We are back with filmmaker... It says now!
	He believes me!
	It says in his bio he's a guerrilla journalist and a lover.
	Okay, we'll take his word for it.
	Armie Horowitz, who's going into the depths of Manhattan, New York, to talk to people who, as you said in the break, would you share with our millions of listeners, it's not just a rejection of society and institutions it's not just what is the goal of these people repeat what you said to me offline okay first of all i want to make clear that i changed it because of you
	Because every time he told me, enough of this gonzo journalist, you're a guerrilla journalist, and I took it to heart.
	Now it took me about a year and a half to do it, but I finally changed it because you, Seb Gorka, influenced me as you do in so many manners.
	We love that, we love that.
	And I know the truth is your mother heard me say it and your mother told you to do it, but that's okay, that's fine.
	And we love you, mom, we hope you're listening.
	All right, so tell us what it is these people you spoke to, 30, 40 people you asked about the Supreme Court, the SCOTUS decision, what's their real objective, Armie?
	Look, it's similar to when I was undercover and embedded with the Black Lives Matter protesters And destroyers.
	They want the destruction of all of the system.
	They want this country to be torn down to the bolts.
	Then they want to recreate it in their own warped image.
	They want, and I mean all the systems, not just the judicial system, as they do the Supreme Court when they attack courthouses across the country, but the economic system, the political system, the justice system, All of it has to be torn down to the roots.
	They want the destruction of all of it.
	Because at the end of the day, they see this country as a fundamentally racist and unequal country that cannot simply be changed.
	That's not enough.
	That won't get it done.
	It must be destroyed.
	That's why it's not so shocking for people who watch my videos on a regular basis to see them for the calling, not just the abolishment of the Supreme Court, but its physical destruction because the two go hand in hand.
	That's what they want.
	That's what they're looking for.
	And if you ask me, why do I make these videos?
	The reason why I make the videos is not just so people on our side can understand what they're dealing with.
	That's important, right?
	I do it for that reason as well.
	But ultimately, if you ask people who are center left, traditional Democrats, right?
	Look, I think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer have been dancing with the left for sure, and certainly speaking from their talking points, but fundamentally, they don't feel like they're leftists, right?
	They think they're left of center.
	If you ask them, that's what they say.
	But the reason—if you say, look, the left wants to destroy the structure, they'll say, no, they don't.
	No, they don't.
	We're fellow travelers.
	We may disagree on some small issues on how we get there, but we're on the same path.
	And the truth is, they're not.
	Because Nancy Pelosi does not want to see the destruction of our system.
	She wants to see fundamental change, and she agitates for that.
	But she won't believe you when you say that AOC and Rashida Tlaib and those other despicable people want to see the destruction of this country.
	And I want to show them that that's in fact who they're in bed with.
	That's in fact what they want.
	I wish we had a thousand Army Horowitzes because you provide the evidence.
	Let me ask you something that's more intuitive.
	And I love that you use the phrase that they're not protesters, they're destroyers.
	That's what they are.
	Whether it's BLM or Antifa, they're not protesting, they're destroying.
	But the people you're interviewing, unless they're actually there looting the Louis Vuitton or setting fire to St.
	John's Episcopal a block from the White House, is there perhaps an aspect of all of this that this is faculty lounge dreaming and wish fulfillment?
	When it's clear that they're saying they want to dismantle and destroy it all, it's easy to say that, but are these the people who are actually going to execute that or are they just the passive majority that will create the permissive environment?
	Do you have a sense if they're dangerous or they just are wishing about the destruction of America?
	I'm glad you brought that up.
	So the vast majority of the people on the left, and it isn't the millions of people on the left, the hard left.
	No, the vast majority of them will probably not engage in destruction.
	Although, I remember this one girl I was talking to in the video, she said, she looked at me, she goes, an actual physical rebellion?
	I go, yeah.
	She goes, well, I'm a pacifist.
	I go, okay.
	She thought about it and she goes, well, I am a pacifist and I won't start the destruction, but if I see it, I'll join in.
	So there's certainly a segment A not insignificant segment of that grouping that will engage in violence.
	But the vast majority of them simply look at it and support it.
	But like you said, that permissiveness is what allows the looters and the destroyers and the dismantlers the air to breathe.
	They're able to succeed because they know they have the support of people on the left.
	Maybe not the people who are jumping in, but they support them.
	You know, when I went to the Black Lives Matter protests, right, there were the protests and they, most of the time, ended up in riots.
	When I asked the protesters who were not engaged in the riots, do you condemn the rioters?
	Of the probably 500 to 600 people I asked that question to, I can count on one hand how many people said, yes, I condemn them.
	The vast majority understate.
	They almost all, to a man, said that, yes, they will, I'm sorry, no, they will not condemn the rioters.
	And that's why those rioters exist, because they know they have that support.
	All right.
	I have to ask, you've only got 10 seconds left of the 40 people you interviewed.
	You've got to see the video.
	I've reposted it on my Twitter feed.
	You've got to follow Army Horowitz.
	Of the 40 people you interviewed who said, down with America, down with capitalism, down with the system, how many of them were holding a $6 chai latte from Starbucks?
	All of them?
	Well, no, not Starbucks.
	Starbucks is passé.
	Now, they're going to the bougie, expensive, third-wave coffeehouses.
	Come on, Sedge.
	Starbucks?
	I'm sorry.
	Come on, get with it, man.
	I'm so out of it.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm so out of it.
	But a man who is on the tip of the spear every single day.
	Guys, you've got to follow him.
	Armie Horowitz is the website.
	Armie Horowitz on Twitter.
	What an amazing individual.
	A true journalist.
	A truth seeker par excellence.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	What they really want to do with the Supreme Court.
	Boris.
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	Yep.
	40 seconds.
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	Of course.
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	Yes.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Thank you.
	you, you, You listen to your guests.
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	Unlike people who rise to cabinet level in the Biden administration, this is the Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm, who's got the answer for $4 gallon of gas in America.
	You know, even with additional releases from this reserve, we've not seen a huge difference in prices.
	So, I'm wondering, is it time to re-examine these strategies that are decades old, like the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and just come up with something different for managing gasoline?
	Why do we keep doing this?
	One of the things to come up with is to electrify the transportation system so that we are not subject to the whims of petro-dictators like Vladimir Putin.
	They're morons.
	Where does she think the electricity comes from?
	Unicorn farts?
	You're a cretin, Secretary Granholm.
	You truly are a cretin or an ideologue.
	America needs energy independence as we had it under President Trump, where we actually exported energy.
	But that's who they are.
	Let's squeeze in some calls.
	Let's go to Eric, California, line two.
	Hey, how you doing, Sebastian?
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	What's your question?
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	Ed, PA, line one.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka, I love your show.
	Thank you.
	I wanted to throw a theory by and get your thoughts.
	It's my hunch that Roberts is the one that leaks The opinion document, and the reason being is there's reports that he's trying to negotiate the time for when abortions are allowed.
	And I wouldn't put it past him.
	I think he's compromised, but I wouldn't put it past him to do that, to get the pressure on the other Supreme Court... No, I don't buy it.
	You have to have a little bit of courage to do something like leak, because if you were found out, he'd be in big, big trouble as the Chief Justice.
	I don't buy it.
	That man is a coward.
	There's no way he's the source of the leak.
	But an interesting idea.
	If you haven't seen it, you've got to see 2,000 Mules.
	It is the proof that they stole the election.
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	What is Biden doing to the economy?
	How bad is it going to get?
	We're going to have President Trump's Economic advisor, none other than Stephen Moore, next here on America First.
	The End
	We have put together, I think, We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	Let me say it again.
	The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
	Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
	Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
	I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
	I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
	If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
	Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
	We have been working on something big.
	Show me the money.
	Can we meet?
	I've been working with Greg Phillips.
	He has a deep background in election intelligence.
	True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
	No one has more data than we do.
	We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
	But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
	What is a mule?
	A person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.
	This is not grandma walking her dog.
	Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
	They are interested in one thing, that's money.
	And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
	This is organized crime.
	Do you have video evidence?
	Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
	What you're about to see is disturbing.
	So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
	Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
	One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
	I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
	Because they work like that.
	This is jaw-dropping.
	What you showed is frightening.
	It's just sickening to me.
	Now we come to the most important question of all.
	Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
	It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
	They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
	That's provable.
	And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
	Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
	We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
	Two Thousand Mules.
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	Press Secretary at the White House.
	How did she perform?
	Well, let's have a look if she knows about economics.
	The very basics about economics.
	Play cut.
	How does raising taxes on corporations lower the cost of gas, the cost of a used car, the cost of food for everyday Americans?
	So look, I think we encourage those who have done very well, right?
	Especially those who care about climate change.
	To support a fair tax code that doesn't charge manufacturers, workers, cops, builders a higher percentage of their earnings than the most fortunate people in our nation, and not let that stand in the way of reducing energy costs and fighting this existential problem, if you think about that as an example.
	And to support basic collective bargaining rights as well, right?
	That's also important.
	Without having a fairer tax code, which is what I'm talking about, like manufacturing workers, cops, it's not fair for them to have to pay higher taxes than the folks who are not paying taxes at all.
	They say it takes a big man to admit his mistakes.
	I'm gonna do it right now.
	I thought we couldn't have a worse press secretary than Jen Psaki.
	Oh, how wrong I was.
	She was asked about corporate tax rates and inflation and replied with climate change, police officers, and collective bargaining.
	Maybe there's an economist out there who can explain it to me.
	Let's talk to a man who advised President Trump on creating the most powerful economy the world has ever seen.
	He's the author of Trumponomics.
	He's back at the conservative mothership, the Heritage Foundation's senior fellow.
	Welcome back to America First 101, Stephen Moore.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	Great to be with you.
	And if you're hoping that I can explain that answer from our new press secretary, I'm afraid I cannot.
	I couldn't make heads or tails.
	What she was saying, it was actually kind of awkward, and I felt a little bit sorry for her, actually.
	You know, she was kind of partially reading from the notes and just reading a script, even though it had nothing to do with what the question was about.
	But look, all of this, all of these policies emanate from Joe Biden.
	She's just a mouthpiece, spitting out the sound bites that the White House has been putting out.
	But I think what's really more important than those crazy statements that were made in that press conference was, you know, you have somebody now, you know, who's the, Jeff Bezos, who runs one of the largest companies in the world, who is a liberal Democrat, Sebastian, who's saying, wait a minute, none of this stuff is going to work.
	Yeah, no, this is very significant that you have Jeff Bezos, you know, the owner of Amazon, the third richest man in the world, making fun... Let's just stop here for a second.
	We've got one of the richest, probably the richest liberal in the world, because Putin's number one, really.
	You've got Elon Musk, who's number two.
	Neither of them are lefties.
	So the richest lefty in the world, Jeff Bezos, Amazon, Washington Post, he's making fun of his Democrat president.
	Isn't that something that should make everybody, Steve, just kind of go, whoa, after 16 months, that's happening to this administration?
	That's a certain yardstick, is it not?
	Look, I think there are a lot of kind of common sense Democrats who we may just disagree with in terms of, you know, some of their ideology.
	But but also have some basic common sense.
	I mean, Jeff Bezos is a very brilliant businessman, regardless of what you think about his politics.
	And when you have people like that, that have been strong supporters of Biden saying, hey, wait a minute, none of this makes any sense.
	And then what was really disturbing, Sebastian, was that, you know, Biden's response to that was, oh, you just don't want to pay your fair share of taxes.
	Like, come on.
	Here's a guy who's built a business that's one of the, you know, most successful businesses in the world history.
	He's a pretty smart guy.
	He knows a lot about, you know, business and mating payroll and paying bills.
	And Biden knows nothing about that.
	And this was one of the things that I always said.
	You know, I talked a lot about this.
	Even when I didn't agree with Donald Trump and I agreed with him most of the time, he did understand business.
	He knew how things run and operate.
	Biden has none of that.
	It's all just this kind of left wing ideological retort to every question.
	So let's break that down a little bit.
	So without getting into, you know, wonkish territory-specific, very special indices, let's talk about the last 16 months.
	So will you give us the blow-by-blow?
	Because you wrote, you gave President Trump, you know, the guidance to create what was the strongest Not just for America, but the strongest economy the world had ever seen.
	And it looks to me, and I'm not doing a conspiracy theory because this could be the result of just sheer incompetence.
	It looks to me as if the last 16 months is just a dismantling of what President Trump and advisors like yourself created.
	I mean, I don't see any area where they got it right.
	So talk to us about what they have done and what it has resulted in, which is affecting all Americans.
	So I'm going to give you three data points.
	It's a great question.
	And just to summarize, just hold these three data points in your mind.
	The first one is inflation.
	When Donald Trump left office in January of 2021, do you know what the inflation rate was, Sebastian?
	Tell me.
	One and a half percent.
	One and a half percent.
	Now we're at 8.5%.
	And by the way, if you want to make people really angry, say that inflation 8.5%.
	I've been traveling all over the country.
	People get so mad at me when I say, they say it's not 8.5%.
	I'm paying 70% more for gasoline.
	I pay 50% more to heat my house or bonafide air conditioning.
	I'm paying 33% more for food.
	I'm paying 20% more for household items.
	The things I have to buy, my inflation rate is 25%, not 8.5%.
	So think about that.
	But let's just take the official number.
	You go from 1.5% Inflation in 15 months to 8.5% inflation?
	I mean, how do you screw things up so quickly?
	I wouldn't have even thought that was possible.
	Data point number two.
	When Trump left office in January 2021, Sebastian, you know this.
	We talked a lot about it at the White House.
	We were energy independent for the first time.
	We were actually exporting oil and gas.
	Now we're importing over a million barrels a day.
	And I think, by the way, if Trump were still president, we'd be We'd be exporting about three or four million barrels a day, not importing a million.
	So that's data point number two, is energy policy is completely screwed up.
	Number three, you know this, we had a median family income rose by somewhere around $6,000 adjusted for inflation under Trump's presidency.
	That was more than the entire eight years of Obama's presidency.
	Now we have about a $2,000 or $3,000 decline in family income adjusted for inflation.
	under Biden in just one year, in his first year in office.
	So those are lousy trends.
	And they show that, you know, when you change these policies that work, you know, you're going to get the opposite results.
	And when you have the man who is, you know, the putative president, get angry when he is asked about printing money, causing inflation, then it seems as if, you know, they're denying two plus two equals then it seems as if, you know, they're denying two plus two equals four, because there's no question that, you know, printing more money when there's more money to trace less things, that is the definition of inflation,
	It is.
	It's as clear as the sun rising in the east that when you borrow You know, $3 trillion like we did last year, and that was all just this additional money.
	And we've got these lefties at the White House who are engaging in what's called modern monetary theory.
	They really believe the government can just spend and borrow as much it wants to.
	It's going to have no negative effect.
	Well, we've learned the hard way.
	They were completely wrong about that.
	The inflation isn't getting better.
	It's getting worse.
	You know, the producer price index numbers came out last week, and they're above 10% now.
	And as I said earlier, people, for the things they have to buy, their essentials, they're facing an inflation rate of closer to 20%.
	So here's the thing.
	Out of the last six times we had inflation this high in the last 50 years or so, four of those six times we had a crash landing and the economy landed in recession.
	Now, that doesn't mean it always happens, but it means it normally does.
	And the longer you let this inflation persist, The more gut-wrenching it is going to be to get this out of the economy.
	And yet, everything Biden said in his speech last week on inflation, as Jeff Bezos said, everything he said is to move in the wrong direction.
	And you're going to get really bad results if that happens.
	Higher taxes, more regulation, build back better, you know, another $2 trillion of spending.
	He wants $1.5 trillion for student Loan relief.
	He wants $40 billion for Ukraine.
	If we're going to give $40 billion to Ukraine, can't we find somewhere to cut in the budget?
	There was a report that just came out yesterday in the Washington Post, of all places, something I've been saying for a year and a half now, $140 billion of fraudulent claims for unemployment benefits.
	I mean, nobody does a damn thing about this, Sebastian.
	One of the Democratic senators from Maryland said, oh yeah, there was a lot of fraud, but we wanted to get the money out of the door as quickly as we could.
	And so you have a 25% fraud rate?
	I mean, that's ripping off taxpayers.
	People should be angry.
	I need to ask you whether you're seeing any glimmers of light on the other side of the political aisle.
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	Stephen, let me just continue on that note.
	Are you seeing, because as a famous economist once said to me, economics is the science of demonstrating that water runs downhill.
	It's not voodoo.
	It's not a dark art.
	It's common sense, right?
	It's just common sense.
	Is there anybody you're hearing on the other side of the aisle at a think tank or in the quote-unquote political elite who's saying, yeah, this is nuts.
	We can't print more money, send money to the Ukraine, punish the wealth generators in America because I don't see it.
	Are you seeing it?
	No, you don't.
	Well, you don't see it among any of the Democrats in Congress who are just very dutifully voting for every Obama initiative.
	You know, we have a race.
	I met with J.D.
	Vance this morning.
	You know, he's running against Tim Ryan from Ohio.
	This is just an example of what you're talking about.
	And Tim Ryan's going around the state of Ohio saying, I'm a moderate Democrat.
	I'm a middle pro-worker Democrat.
	And J.D.
	said, well, that's interesting, because you voted 100% with Joe Biden.
	So how are you a moderate Democrat?
	All these guys, they voted 100% with Biden on everything.
	So there's no voices of sanity in Congress, except for Joe Manchin, who saved our country.
	Thank you, Joe Manchin.
	You really did save—and by the way, I'm sorry to go off on a tangent here— Go ahead, go ahead.
	Jeff Bezos said, hey, the guy who really saved you was Joe Manchin.
	You know, you wanted to spend another $5 trillion, because Biden's running around the country now saying he reduced the deficit.
	Can you believe this?
	You can't make this stuff up.
	He spent $3, $4 trillion, and he's saying, oh, he's a fiscal conservative.
	And then, of course, here's the bigger problem, though, and I shouldn't be laughing, because this is a very serious matter.
	There's nobody in the White House.
	There's no sane voice in the White House who is saying, hey, you know, you can't do this.
	There's no adult in the room.
	There's nobody who knows anything about business.
	There's nobody who knows anything about finance.
	These are just left-wing ideologues.
	And I'm very disappointed, by the way, in Janet Yellen.
	I thought Janet Yellen would be the one.
	She used to run the Federal Reserve Board.
	She knows better.
	She's just parroting all this craziness, you know, that is really ruining our economy.
	So that makes me very, very nervous.
	What would have happened, or if it still happens, what would happen if Build Back Better were passed?
	How much worse could it get, Steve?
	Well, then you really are talking about, you know, in his speech that he gave last week, Biden basically wanted a kind of mini-me version of Build Back Better.
	More taxes, more green energy, more subsidies to electric vehicles and things of that nature.
	And then you're talking about, I think you could see, you know, a 15 percent inflation rate.
	And I agree entirely with Elon Musk that the person who saved Biden was Joe Manchin for stopping that horrendous, horrendous bill.
	I don't see anything good.
	Remember, it was Bill Clinton after his party got so defeated and said, well, the big government is over.
	And I commend him for that.
	He really did move to the middle on economics after the Republicans took over Congress.
	I just don't see any inclination in this White House to do it.
	What they're doing right now, Sebastian, they're doubling down.
	They're doubling down on their failed policy.
	Is there anybody in the think tank community on the left, in the chattering classes, that is trying to rein it in?
	Because you live in that world.
	Yeah, there is.
	I have a lot of respect for Larry Summers.
	Now, I've disagreed with Larry Summers over the years.
	He was Bill Clinton's Treasury Secretary.
	He did a good job.
	But he's a lot more liberal than you and I are.
	You know this, Sebastian.
	He's worn for eight months.
	Don't spend all this money.
	Don't borrow all this money.
	We're going to cause inflation.
	This is what they do to people.
	They try to crucify anyone who disagrees with them, even if they're members of their own party.
	That's why they hate Joe Manchin.
	They hate Joe Manchin.
	So are we locked into this for two and a half more years?
	Is it, or does the midterms, what is your strategy or what are you advising?
	Because you are central to, you know, GOP Republican strategies and Club for Growth, you know, what is the, sorry, FreedomWorks and Club for Growth, what happens after the midterms?
	Can we use the power of the purse or are the GOP just as drunk on spending as the left?
	Boy, that's a good question.
	So first of all, I do expect a monster election in November for the Republicans.
	I lived through 1994.
	I lived through 2010.
	And I think you're going to see another election like that.
	People are angry.
	People are fearful and they're angry.
	And they should be.
	They should be.
	Because this economy, this economy would be booming today if Trump was still president.
	That's why I feel like pulling my hair out.
	You know, what's the old saying?
	Don't build back better, just leave it the way you found it.
	We'd be in so much better shape.
	And so, of course, as my buddy Larry Kudlow says, the cavalry is coming.
	But I always say to Larry, you know, are you sure they're going to get here on time?
	Because there's a lot of damage that can be done over the next six months.
	But boy, I am worried, too, Sebastian, about too many Republicans voting for the Biden agenda.
	We had 19 Republicans vote for that sham infrastructure bill in the Senate.
	They now have this crazy — they call it the China bill, which has us filled with all this green energy stuff and subsidies for the semiconductor industry.
	It's a terrible bill.
	I hate it.
	It's corporate welfare.
	Well, most Republicans are in favor of that.
	They said, you can't — look, if you're going to be an anti-big government policy, you can't vote for big government.
	So we'll see.
	All right, but what are you advising?
	So what is the strategy?
	Cut government spending as much as possible.
	What I advise Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise and the Republican House leaders is let's do immediately a 15% across-the-board cut in government spending.
	Now, I want to make an important point to you, Sebastian.
	This is really important.
	You asked me if Republicans can stop the spending if they take Congress.
	Of course they can.
	You know how much Joe Biden can appropriate in money?
	Zero!
	The President doesn't appropriate money, so Republicans will have the power to turn off the spigot.
	I know.
	I mean, I'm fully aware as an immigrant I had to take an exam on civics to become a naturalized citizen, so I'm aware of the power, but I want to hear from you what the plan is.
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	So Steve, I am fully aware that, you know, The Senate has its role with regards to slowing down legislation, reviewing legislation.
	It is the House that has the purse strings.
	If we shellack the Democrats in the midterms, we will control government spending if we want to.
	The question is, and I know it's an impolite question to ask on the right, do we want to?
	If you look at the last 20 years of GOP spending practices and the state of the deficit, do you think magically after the midterms the GOP is going to suddenly behave differently and rein anything in?
	I hope so.
	I mean, you know, I think that initially they will, but You know, they're politicians.
	They like to play Santa Claus, whether they're Republican or Democrat.
	But there's more than just the spending.
	I want to mention two other quick things.
	You know, we have to make the Trump tax cuts permanent.
	Those were so effective.
	All right, so let's stop on that for a second.
	So this is a big project right now with our supporters, the Job Creators Network.
	They've got a petition.
	You can check it out if you go to JCN, Job Creators Network.
	Explain, because people kind of forget it.
	They think of crushing ISIS, securing the border, and then now they look at the price of gas.
	Will you walk us through why the Jobs Act and the new tax act under President Trump is so essential?
	Because it sunsets in 2025.
	Tell us why that was such an engine for growth and prosperity.
	Because we made America competitive again in the international markets.
	And all of a sudden, when we lowered our business tax rates and our tax rates on individual entrepreneurs, what happened, Sebastian, we started sucking capital from the rest of the world into the United States.
	I remember talking to Trump many times in the Oval Office and saying, you know, sir, your tax cut is even working better than Larry Kudlow and I thought it would.
	And he would smile and, you know, he would nod his head because it really did.
	And then we had the lowest poverty rate.
	Did you know that, Sebastian?
	The lowest poverty rate for blacks and Hispanics ever in the history of this country.
	And lowest unemployment rate since record-keeping began.
	And yet they still called him a racist.
	He provided more economic advancement in three or four years for blacks and Hispanics than Obama did in eight years and Biden has done in his first year and a half.
	So I never understood, how is he a racist if he's done so much good for Minorities.
	And the other thing we have to do is we have to produce American energy.
	All of it.
	All of everything we got.
	And we should be at 15 million barrels a day of production.
	Under Biden we're at 11 million.
	So that means 4 million barrels a day less than we should be producing.
	And do the math there, Sebastian.
	Four million barrels a day at $100 a barrel, more than $100 at $110.
	That's almost half a billion dollars a day that we're losing because of this crazy, lunatic, green energy climate change agenda, which seems to be an obsession with this White House.
	And where does the cutting begin?
	So say the GOP finds a spine, we win in the midterms.
	Give us, let's be concrete, give us the things we start cutting day one and say nope, no appropriations for that, sorry!
	Well, you know, I would start by just cutting everything, everything by, you know, 10 or 15% because these agencies have 30% increases during COVID.
	So start with that.
	Just across the board, everything gets cut.
	And then you start looking at agencies of government we don't need.
	Why are we still spending money on the International Monetary Fund?
	Why are we spending?
	Can we pull out of the WHO?
	Can we pull out of some of these United Nations agencies?
	Why do we give money to the World Bank?
	Why are we spending so much money?
	We spend $100 billion a year on the Department of Education.
	Has it had any impact on school performance?
	None that I've seen.
	No, no.
	All right, so we've got a plan.
	I would say at least 20 percent.
	Why don't we start with 20 percent?
	I'm with you.
	I love it.
	Yeah, I mean, why not?
	These agencies are so flush with cash right now.
	You know, American families are struggling, but the government is, you know, we're now Close to 40% of our entire economy now government.
	That means we're 40% a socialist country.
	We've got to get it down.
	You know, Milton Friedman would say the first thing you have to do if you want more growth is cut the government spending as much as possible.
	That's exactly the opposite of what Biden has done.
	And then one other quick thing.
	Trump really did—the deregulation was so enormously beneficial.
	And remember when Trump said, I'm going to eliminate two regulations for every new regulation that we enact?
	It turned out he did 22 eliminations.
	This is one of my favorite stories that, you know, when we came into the White House, it was two sliced for one new one.
	And then nine months in, you know, he said, okay, what's the math guys?
	And it was it was 22 to 12 slash for every new regulation.
	And you can see what it did to the economy is just is just getting government off the back of the actual wealth creators, which really aren't, you know, You know, the big corporations, it's the small to medium-sized businesses that employ more than 60% of the workforce.
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	Steve, I want people who have lost hope.
	When I go to California to visit my kids, and my daughter, who's in a very well-paid job at age 24, says to my wife as we're parting ways, I'm going to go and smoke a cigar, and the ladies are going to go shopping.
	And I hear my daughter say to my wife, hey mom, would you mind filling up my car with gas?
	you realize, oh my gosh, my successful young daughter, it's a big deal for her to spend over a hundred bucks to fill her little sedan's gas tank in California.
	You can kind of run away with that dark feeling and say, that's it, we're done, we're toast, the green new steel is coming.
	Would you spin a little bit of a historic perspective on not just what you've advised President Trump to do, which created that incredible engine of growth that was the American economy, but reassure our millions of listeners and viewers that what was done then can but reassure our millions of listeners and viewers that what was done then can be done again and how we transition, for
	I mean, people think it's bad now, but at least we're not waiting in lines based upon whether we've got an odd or even tag license at the gas station like Carter.
	So, you know, Reagan brought us back from the malaise of Carter.
	Can it be done again if we have two more years of this insanity, Stephen?
	Well, first of all, I think most Americans know this.
	I can't tell you how many times, because I've been on the road a lot lately, Sebastian.
	I've been every state from Florida to Maine to Arizona and I was in Montana last week.
	So I've been seeing a little slice of Americana and people will come up to me on the street corners or in a bar or a hotel and they'll talk to me and they'll say, you know, and even Democrats do, Sebastian, and they'll say, you know, I didn't really like Donald Trump.
	I didn't even vote for him, but I really liked his policies.
	I like what he did for the economy.
	And I can't tell you how many times that is happening.
	And I think you're seeing that with people like Elon Musk, you know, they may not like Trump, they sure like the results.
	And so what, you know, the left loves to talk about science.
	Well, we had a big scientific experiment under Trump.
	We cut taxes, we cut regulations, we have better trade deals, we produce more and more American energy.
	The left said it wasn't going to work.
	We said it would.
	And we had the biggest boom ever.
	So let's do it again.
	What's so complicated about that?
	So there's nothing about what they're doing now or the depths they've plumbed us to that can't be fixed with leadership?
	Oh, it can be fixed.
	It's not going to be fixed by this leadership, unfortunately.
	I mean, this Murderer's Road, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, you know, And Nancy Pelosi and the majority leader of the Senate, Chuckie Schumer.
	I mean, they are atrocious and they're wrong on everything.
	And so, you know, this, but maybe, you know, I'll put a little positive spin on this.
	I mean, when somebody more You know, conservative friends say maybe Americans had to see this, you know, to know how bad things can get when you get the policies wrong and when you, with your experiment in socialism.
	I mean, you've lived under socialism, Sebastian, so you know these things never work.
	Why do we always have to try it again and again and again?
	When will people realize that socialism, fascism, all of these isms, you know, that are, what are they called, democratic socialism, they don't work anywhere.
	Yeah, the definition of madness.
	Thank you, Mr. Einstein.
	It is doing the same thing again and again and again, expecting a different result the next time.
	Well, let me ask about one thing that seems to be a kind of secret weapon in the back pocket of the Democrats, and there's this constant threat that they're going to wipe out student loan to just, you know, buy more votes from a certain demographic and age category.
	How does the whole student loan debt fit into all of these discussions, Stephen?
	I think people are so angry about this.
	You've met my wife, Ann.
	You've been to her house.
	She's usually kind of a calm person, but she's a perfect example of someone who did it the right way.
	She didn't come from a wealthy family.
	She took out loans so she could go to UCLA, and she graduated.
	Then as any new college graduate, she didn't have a real high-paying job when she graduated.
	But, you know, she did pretty well for herself.
	But every paycheck for the next 12 years, she'd take money out of that paycheck, and she was living paycheck to paycheck and pay back her loan.
	I mean, that's what an upstanding person does, right?
	You borrow money, you pay back the money.
	And so there's something unscrupulous about this idea that somehow all these deadbeats—and I'm going to use that term, deadbeat.
	If you don't pay back your loans, you're a deadbeat.
	I know that's—they'll probably take me off the air for hate speech, but let's call But look, that's what it is.
	Now, imagine for a minute, the left loves to talk about fairness.
	How in the world is it fair for someone like my wife who scrimped and saved and did the right thing and paid back her loan?
	Now she's so damn angry.
	She's like, now I got to pay taxes for the Dem beats who didn't pay back the loan.
	She said, I feel like a chump.
	But not only that, not only the principle of fairness against people like your wife that actually paid off their debts on time, there's also an ethnic minority aspect that the people with these absolutely useless degrees, such as gender studies or sustainability,
	are most often you know affluent white kids from the middle class and then you're asking people who left high school to actually do real jobs like plumbers to pay with their taxes for the useless debt-ridden what did you call them deadbeats who are mostly white I mean it's the it's the it's the antithesis of what they preach to us Steve social justice Exactly.
	And by the way, how many people going forward do you think would ever pay back a student loan if we forget 1.5 trillion dollars in student loans?
	It'd be crazy to do it.
	And you're also right that, you know, that the people who aren't paying back their loans, you know, over half of them have graduate degrees, for goodness sakes.
	So what did they learn?
	And one other quick thing on this subject.
	I mean, I've made this point so many times.
	that I think one of the greatest financial scams in our country is how much these universities and colleges are charging our families.
	It's outrageous, the tuitions.
	And if somebody's gonna have to pay these loans back, I say let the universities with their billions of dollars of endowments, why don't they use their endowments to pay off those loans?
	Which, by the way, if you do a little bit of historic research, you know, these massive colleges like Stanford that has an endowment of, what, 36, 37 billion dollars with a B, when they were founded by Governor Stanford, for example, The intent was that no student paid to go there.
	They were free rides.
	The money was raised to endow the fees, the student tuition.
	And now, no, no, no.
	Give us $65,000 into our non-taxable, not-for-profit slush fund, which is These universities are real estate ventures that give you a degree.
	That's one thing I say.
	Don't give them a penny if you're a graduate and when President Trump comes back we've got to tax them into the ground.
	You can't make money as a not-for-profit and then not actually do the objective you were created to actually accomplish.
	So there's a little plan you can whisper into President Trump's ear.
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	So it is January the 21st.
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	Give us your two things to start with.
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	Do what you were doing in your first term, Mr. President.
	Just about everything you did worked.
	We had the best economy in 50 years.
	We have, as you said, Sebastian, the lowest poverty rate, lowest unemployment rate, biggest wage gains for all groups, for women, for minorities, for everyone.
	This is a president who did not divide us.
	You know, that's what the left loves, dividing us into all these different groups.
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	No, this made everybody better off.
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	Absolutely.
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	And so, yes, can Trump fix it?
	Yes, he can, Sebastian, and he will if he gets back to the White House.
	I think it would take him six months to get the economy back in order.
	But after the midterms, the GOP has to pull on its big boy pants, and they have to get serious about not allowing the federal spending to continue like it is today, correct?
	Absolutely.
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