Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Of fake conservatives and fake tough guys
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the ReliefFactor.com studios, this is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
Where's the historic intro that you guys love?
We don't have time for that.
We're opening the show without a monologue, but with a guest who's so busy, he's agreed to come on.
He's only got 10 minutes for us, and we are delighted to make room for him.
He is, of course, the House Republican Whip, a great patriot representing the 1st Congressional District of Louisiana.
It is Steve Scalise, Congressman Scalise.
Welcome to America First here on the Salem Network.
Sebastian, it is great to be back with you.
My dear friend, how have you been doing?
I've been very well, very well.
I can't wait for us to go to New Orleans and have some gumbo.
We've got to make that happen sometime.
Gumbo and charbroiled oysters, come on back.
Oh my gosh, that sounds too good.
All right.
Got to talk politics for the time being, however.
I have a kind of rule of thumb when it comes to leaked audios from Nixon in the White House to the recent New York Times thing.
They're always overhyped.
I've listened to what these people are releasing about Kevin McCarthy, about Matt Gaetz.
You were on the audio.
I see a large nothing burger except for one thing and We didn't rehearse this.
I didn't approve the talking points of your team because we don't do that here on the Salem Network.
We have a problem with leadership in the GOP, especially if we win after the midterms.
Given what we have heard, could you give your assessment as the whip of the future of Kevin McCarthy if President Trump is in the White House in three years' time?
Look, the two of them have a good relationship.
You know, I've got a good relationship with President Trump, still talk to him on a regular basis, as does Kevin.
And look, President Trump's been very focused on helping us win the House back.
And, you know, he's done a number of events for us.
In fact, he's doing another big event for us in Dallas in two weeks to, you know, it's probably going to raise a few million dollars in our move to win back the House and fire Nancy Pelosi.
So, you know, when you see, whether it's the New York Times, CNN, all the mainstream media, They want to talk about January 6th.
They want to talk about anything other than all the crises that our country is facing.
You know, and when we go down to the border, when we took members to an offshore oil rig over the last week to talk about what we need to do to lower gas prices, that's what people back home care about.
You know, the drama of, you know, what's going on in D.C.
with people that want to just keep talking about January 6th.
They know it's because they don't want to talk about all the crises that Biden and Pelosi have created.
I think they're all focused on helping us win the House back.
So that we can start working to save this country.
You are right.
The left and the mainstream media is obsessed with January 6th.
However, there are two aspects of January 6th that we should discuss.
Number one, how it's being used to weaponize law enforcement against conservatives.
And secondly, the plight of those who are still in that D.C.
prison.
Are you satisfied with what the conservative establishment is doing for those who are still languishing in jail?
Just a couple of miles from this studio and from where you are speaking, Whip Scalise.
Yeah, I think everybody would recognize that, you know, people broke the law.
There needs to be justice, but justice needs to be swift and it needs to be carried out fairly.
You know, one of the criticisms I've had is that Pelosi never really wanted to just get the facts.
She wanted to make this a very political and partisan committee.
You know, she kicked Republicans like Jim Jordan and Jim Banks off of the committee when Kevin McCarthy was going to appoint him, because she didn't want to get the facts out.
She wanted it to be a witch hunt committee, going after anybody, not just people that went into the Capitol on January 6th, people that weren't even in D.C.
on January 6th, that's who they're going after, too.
And so, you know, let justice be swift, but let it be fair.
And what about the people that were burning cities down over that summer?
Why don't they want to go after those people?
They don't want to go after the people on the left that were, you know, shooting and killing cops and burning down police stations.
They just want to talk about January 6th and try to blame everything on Donald Trump.
And it's not accurate.
And I think people are done with it.
Follow this man at Steve Scalise right now on Twitter, also republicanwhip.gov.
Congressman Scalise, how much do you think the political landscape has changed in just the last four days here in the United States with the acceptance of the offer by Elon Musk to purchase Twitter?
Do you expect a fairer social media landscape or should we not put our trust in just another billionaire?
Well, by the reaction from the left, it must be really good for us and anybody who believes in free speech because the left's going nuts over it.
In fact, some of the, you know, the radical Twitter employees are even, you know, going up in arms about it.
But, you know, Twitter, like a lot of other social media platforms years ago, started off as true platforms for free speech.
You know, you have ideas, whatever they are, if they're left, right, socialist, let everybody go and exchange ideas.
And if the left is so insecure that they don't think anyone That challenges their ideas should be heard from.
It's probably because they know their ideas are bad.
And if you point out facts, you point out how freedom actually works, you know, go look at the states right now.
The states that are shutting everything down and canceling people, like New York and New Jersey and California, are losing millions of people.
Two states that believe in freedom, like Florida and Texas.
So the public's already figured this out.
The oligarchs in big tech don't want it, but Elon Musk is shaking it up.
Encouraged by what he's doing, time will tell, but at least you've got a new signal that somebody that actually has been a very strong advocate for freedom of speech, not just the speech you and I believe in, but people that disagree with us have an equal opportunity to go out there and make their case in a public square and let the best ideas win.
One more question for you, Whip Scalise, before you go and whip the Conservative representatives into shape.
At the top of your Twitter feed I see tweet after tweet after tweet about energy independence, about America being serious about its energy sector.
We've got the breaking news of Russia cutting its oil supply to Poland, a NATO ally to Bulgaria.
And then breaking news, literally as we walked into the studio, Biden is again banning incandescent light bulbs like Obama did.
He's reversing the Trump policy that Americans get to choose what kind of light bulbs they buy.
Given this insanity, which sounds like a skit, a comedy skit, I've got to ask you a question I ask all of our political guests.
Are there any normal Democrats left in the swamp that you can talk to as Russia is cutting off energy to our allies, the Biden administration is focused on banning light bulbs?
There's very few, and Sebastian, look, this shows you how out of touch Joe Biden, Speaker Pelosi, the AOC wing, That's driving the agenda right now are with regular folks.
I mean, people that are tired of paying $4, $5, $6 for gas in America, but also recognize that under Donald Trump, we were energy independent.
We were exporting oil and natural gas to our allies around the world.
We should be doing more to help Europe so that whether it's Poland or Germany or any other country, they don't need to get their oil or natural gas from Russia.
And they shouldn't have to because we can produce more here, except that President Biden shut it down.
He made it clear, by the way, as a candidate.
Go look at his speech.
When he was in the Democrat primary, he said he's going to stop drilling on federal lands, stop drilling on private lands.
He's going to stop drilling, and he has.
He won't, you know, no new pipelines authorized, no new LNG export facilities authorized, no new drilling permits on federal lands authorized.
And it's having a price cost.
It's costing people more for gas because of what Biden did.
We should reverse that.
Let's open up our energy production.
And then let's go shut down Russia.
Russia won't have the ability to finance this war or to threaten countries with energy, which is what they've always done.
If we export more oil and more natural gas to our friends around the world, as we're producing enough to take care of ourselves, we can do it.
We were doing it under Trump.
With his policies, let's get back to those policies.
Before you leave, this is a midterm election year.
What is your message to everyone, not just in your state of Louisiana, in terms of how they must be engaged this year?
There's never been a clear discernment between people who stand for freedom and people who want government control.
You know, they just lifted the requirement that you had to have a mask on an airplane.
If you want to wear three of them, it's your business, but don't make me wear one.
And Biden wants to go back to forcing you to wear masks.
They want government control.
We're fighting for freedom.
Go out and vote.
Find candidates who share these same values and support them.
We're going to be winning a lot of races, Sebastian, all across the country.
A lot of Democrat-held seats are going to flip Republican, and people need to be involved in those races.
If you're represented by a Democrat, vote for all this socialist garbage in D.C.
Now's the time to go find a good conservative, get involved in their campaign, go doorknock, participate in voter integrity, like they did in Virginia, by the way.
You can flip Virginia, you can flip a lot of districts that are held by Democrats all around the country.
We did it in the Commonwealth of Virginia, and it can be done across the nation.
This is an individual that, in the not-too-distant future, I would like to see not just as the Whip, but as a Speaker of the House.
He's Steve Scalise.
Follow him on Twitter.
Thank you.
Thank you, Whip Scalise.
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Okay.
Okay.
Cuts.
Let me hear four and five.
Does the President still maintain that he never spoke with his son about his business dealings?
And given this reporting on Eric Schwerin, does he also say that he has never spoken to his son's business partners about his son's business dealings?
He maintains his same statements that he's made in the past.
I would say, I know you're referring to WAVES records that were released more than 10 years ago.
More detail or information on them.
I'd note that there was a gap when WAVES records were not released, but I don't have more information about visits from more than 10 years ago.
We are working with our European allies and partners, as well as others, to transition away from Russian sources of energy, and ultimately to transition away from fossil fuels entirely, and to continue this transition to renewable, to sources of energy that will see to it that neither the United States nor any country around the world is held hostage to a country like Russia, who can close the spigot whenever they so choose.
All right, and then give me, cut one.
We inherited a broken and dismantled system that is already under strain.
It is not built to manage the current levels and types of migratory flows.
Only Congress can fix this.
Yet, we have effectively managed an unprecedented number of non-citizens seeking to enter the United States.
What a scumbag.
All right, and come in with Come in with cut nine, then I'll do Israel, and then I'll go to our guest.
Hang on a second.
Are we dialing her?
Okay.
Can you kill them, Mike?
Thank you.
That gets out on you will be used by the worst people on the internet to destroy your life.
And it's so isolating.
And terrifying.
It's horrifying.
I'm so sorry.
You're fine.
You're fine.
It's overwhelming.
It's really hard.
Give that woman an Oscar!
That is Taylor Lorenz lying about how it's so awful to dogs, people!
Unless, of course, she's doing it for the Washington Times with regards to an amazing account called Libs of TikTok.
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The one and only Libs of TikTok.
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And now she's with us, the one and only Libs of TikTok.
Welcome to America First.
Hi, thank you.
All right, first question.
We're going to respect your privacy because you're not a politician.
You're not a public figure.
You just have an amazing, amazing social media account.
But first thing I want to ask you is, how are you doing after what the Washington Post and others did to you?
Are you hanging in there?
Are you getting the requisite support from other patriots across the nation?
I have received outpouring of support from Everyone on the right on Twitter and my family, my friend, my community.
It's been I'm shocked at the support I'm receiving.
It's been incredible.
Obviously the article coming out, exposing my name and details about my life.
You know, it turned my life upside down.
I had to go make, you know, travel arrangements.
But Right now, I am doing fine and, you know, it happened.
It was wrong what they did, but it happened, so I'm learning to just embrace it right now.
Well, thank you for doing what you do, because for those who aren't familiar, for those sane people who don't spend hours on social media like I do every single day, Libs of TikTok is a platform that takes the primary source material of the left the crazy statements, the crazy self-phone-made videos, and post them so you can see the ideologues and the radicals.
And as such, it's a wonderful resource that we've used here on America First every single day.
Can you tell us the origins, how you decided originally to do this, and why you made Libs of TikTok?
Yeah I needed originally just as a joke to post funny TikToks.
I kept noticing that these TikToks would be posted to Twitter and they would go viral because, I mean, TikTok is a pretty funny place.
There's a lot of great content on there and funny videos.
So I was like, hey, let me just, you know, find funny videos and post it.
And then my channel really, it kept just progressing in different directions.
I kept Noticing new things.
So one of the things that I post about a lot is the stuff going on in our schools, and that is not something that I knew what's happening when I made the channel originally.
So it was a that wasn't my intention.
It was it started just as a joke.
Just for fun, and obviously it blew up and I started realizing what's happening in our schools and that became a primary focus.
Now, those who have revealed your identity, your address, the people from the Washington Post, like Taylor Lorenz, who have harassed members of your family, they say that you're a racist, you're a transphobe.
I know you're a religious woman.
What is your response to those outrageous accusations?
I think they know that they're lying.
So I think that these insults that they view at everyone who disagrees with them, they really hold no value because if you go around all day calling everyone you disagree with a racist and a transphobe and a homophobe and whatever else they want to call me, then it really has no meaning.
So I don't let that bother me at all. - And we've played it here on the show, but I don't want to waste time playing them again.
When they say, people like Taylor Lorenz, interviewed by Brian Stouter on CNN, say, oh no, we didn't reveal any personal information.
That's just a lie, correct?
Yeah, and she knows she's lying.
I mean, the Washington Post, they removed the link and then they lied about it.
So I think they all know they're lying and that's something that happens quite often.
So why do you think that the mainstream media, you're just one person, with a social media account, these are multi multi million dollar corporations owned by billionaires like Bezos.
Why do you think they're so angry at you?
And why do you think they had to target you a single private individual?
Well, I think that what I was doing was really effective and it's really hard for people to see themselves in a mirror.
So they're seeing these videos, and I'm showing what's going on in the classrooms and just in society in general, and I'm basically holding up a mirror to them, and they're trying to gaslight us all the time and telling us, you know, this is not happening.
There's no critical race theory in schools.
There's no gender ideology in schools.
No one wants to talk to little kids about sex, right?
They keep telling us all this, and I can prove it firsthand that it's actually not true, and it is happening, and they just couldn't stand to see their own views getting refuted like that.
Yeah, I experienced this with my time in the White House.
When you're effective in demonstrating the reality of what the left has become, you have to be taken out with hit piece after hit piece after hit piece.
Exactly.
Tell us, is there any way in addition to following your accounts, libs of TikTok, is there any way people can support you, pray for you?
What are your requests?
I mean, because your account is now, we broke it yesterday, I think.
We wanted to get you yesterday over a million.
You are now 1.1 million followers on Twitter alone.
How can people support you?
So in the link in my Twitter bio, sorry, in my Twitter bio, there's a link to my newsletter.
It's a sub stack.
I'm going to be posting some content on there and some exclusives.
So if people want to subscribe to that, that's one great way to support me.
All right, well, God bless you.
You are doing a service to this nation.
The fact is you are like that little boy in that tale by Christian Anderson who said, you know what?
That beautiful new robe of the king It doesn't exist.
He's naked.
You are telling the truth and that's why they hate you.
We have millions of Patriot who outnumber the radicals who have your back.
Support this lady.
Subscribe to her substack.
The account is Libs of TikTok.
God bless you and keep doing what you do.
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We talk to Libs of TikTok.
Dr. G talks to...
No, we talk to Libs of TikTok.
Can McCarthy survive?
No, no, hang on.
Are there any sane Democrats left?
No, just put Dr. G talks to the lips of TikTok.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Swamp creatures have a way of surviving.
Right.
Right.
And it doesn't have to be an inside job.
Well, how does Veritas do what it does?
All right, so...
Merchant title.
Full call board.
No, I didn't.
Thank you.
He's right.
Yeah, he has to.
I mean, he can, you know, edge in first with a campaign account or whatever, but he'll be back.
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Line one, David, full call board.
Welcome to America First.
Oh, thank you for taking my call, Sebastian.
I want to thank you for being such a great patriot.
I don't know if you watched this morning, but Mayorkas is in D.C.
being questioned.
My opinion is this.
It's a Punch and Judy show.
One of the people that's inside of the outfit said that she was asked, do you think that he ought to be impeached?
And of course, her answer was, everything except impeachment.
And McCarthy said the other day, I saw a news blip on Newsmax that said, that he might, there's a question whether or not he might be impeached.
What I'm asking you today is we don't need any more investigations.
We don't need any more taxpayers.
It's just a waste of money.
What they're going to do is they're going to try out for Hollywood.
Everybody's going to point a finger, and by tomorrow or next week it'll be gone.
And by tomorrow, next week, it'll be gone.
I just wanted you to take how much more investigating do we need to know this guy's failed at his job, he's cost lives, and he's cost millions of dollars.
I just wanted you to take how much more investigating do we need to know this guy's failed at his job.
He's cost lives and he's cost millions of dollars.
Hang on a second, David.
Hang on a second, David.
Hang on.
Hang on.
There's just 19 seconds I want to share with you that infuriated me.
There's just 19 seconds I want to share with you that infuriated me.
This is what Mayorkas said today about his border regime.
This is what Mayorkas said today about his border regime.
Cut one.
Cut one.
We inherited a broken and dismantled system that is already under strain.
It is not built to manage the current levels and types of migratory flows.
Only Congress can fix this.
Yet, we have effectively managed an unprecedented number of non-citizens seeking to enter the United States.
That diabolical statement.
That's a lie.
I agree with you.
No more investigations.
We need to win the election.
We need to win the executive.
We need to clean out the DOJ.
Clean out the FBI.
And people like him.
I'm having a guest on my Newsmax show on Sunday, David.
A representative of the Hispanic community who said what is happening on the southern border With Latina women is the new slavery.
There should be people of this administration who are charged with aiding and abetting traffickers in humans and drugs and they should be prosecuted.
That's my take.
But for that to happen, David, we have to win every election.
I have a question for you real quick.
I want to start a podcast.
I'm 80.
I'm handicapped, but I want to encourage elder people, retired citizens to join me.
I'm going to call it a recruiting podcast so we can get some local people in government.
Excellent.
Excellent.
You know, people ask me about how do I do it.
Very simple.
Buy a microphone and begin.
That's all you need to do.
God bless you.
You don't sound 80.
That's outrageous.
That's fake news.
Do it, my friend.
Stay on the line.
David gets to pick whatever he wants from the Seb Gorka store, because he's a good guy, because he's part of the solution.
Glenn, Arizona.
Welcome to America First.
Line three.
So I told the call screener, the last Speaker of the House we had on the right was a piece of trash swamp creature, Paul Ryan.
Yep.
What I'm afraid of is we're going to win in November, Seb.
We're going to get another swamp creature as Speaker of the House in Kevin McCarthy.
He's a piece of crap.
He needs to go, and I hate to say this, but we're going to get more swamp creatures in.
We're going to win again, and yet we're going to lose because we have swamp creatures who pretend they're on our side, but they're really not.
So look, here's my take, Glenn.
Talking to people who work with him, who are MAGA, who have to work with him, members of the house.
He's not a bad guy.
He's just weak.
He's weak.
The good thing is you can manage weak people.
The question is do we have enough MAGA candidates so that we have the majority and it becomes our party.
So that's the question.
That's the challenge.
That's why David was so right.
Every single one of you out there has to be a candidate or support a candidate.
I don't mean write a check.
I mean work for them directly.
If we do that, The Kevin McCarthys of the world, Glenn, cannot ignore us.
We have to outnumber them, but we have to get engaged.
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Can I talk to JL?
Hey, John?
Um... JL.
what's the situation with the teleprompter?
because?
But do you know why?
Why?
I mean, it is a teleprompter, so what's the technical issue?
Yeah, because instead of sitting in front of a camera with a piece of paper reading live reads, it would be nice to have the three live reads in the teleprompter. - it would be nice to have the three live reads in You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
I want it to function as a teleprompter, yeah.
Uh-huh.
And just a regular desktop or what?
Or something?
Uh-huh.
Okay.
All right.
Uh, Trish, right?
No, that was the original discussion, but it just came to me today that, you know, it would just look neater if I can look straight in the camera.
Got it.
Come in with the... Can you pick up Phil, block the rest of the line, and then come in with... Come in with her intro, please.
All right, then come in with Lyndell.
Lyndell audio.
The bank that Liddell would hear.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Not that the FBI is even sniffing and looking.
But what if somebody came in and said, you know what?
We are going to subpoena all his account records and this and that, and then all of a sudden we make the news.
So it's more of a reputation risk.
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Why do we let guests make suggestions as to what they should talk about on the show?
That's an outrage!
Well, except if it's Trish Reagan.
She is our regular market maven.
She gives us the intel from the markets.
She wants to talk about something called Twatter, Twitter, and some guy called Miski.
I know, we'll talk about it, but first things first.
What do you mean I've got a nice she's she's texting me I'm trying to do a live read and she's texting me on my phone saying nice studio well we're trying to keep up with you Trish Regan so welcome to the new America First studio I absolutely love it.
I was really excited.
I saw the first shot there of you speaking on camera, and then you went to a wide shot.
And I'm like, whoa!
Guys, go to the wide shot.
Play with that joystick.
Move the camera.
Show them just how much we have here.
Go slide it.
Slide it.
Can you move it?
Do you know how to do that, John?
Move the camera.
Look!
It works!
And then what about the other camera we use for the guests who are in the studio, who come, who actually deign to come in the studio?
Can we turn that camera on as well?
Can we show everybody?
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See?
We've got an empty chair and then we've got the other one of me.
All right, that's enough showing off, but thank you Salem for my new studio.
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I'm just going to ask you straight off because we spent half the time on this show Super excited!
The left have gone crazy.
They hate Elon Musk.
Must be a good sign.
And then we have people like my good buddy for years, CEO, not CEO, he's the editor-in-chief of Breitbart.com, Alex Marlow, who's been following Palo Alto and Big Tech for years, saying, What do you mean, Gorka?
You trust this guy?
He's in business with China!
Never trust a billionaire!
So we want you to advise us.
Are you excited?
And do we need to have a little bit of a dampener on our excitement?
Listen, I think that...
We should all be skeptics about everything and everyone.
I mean, especially as journalists, right?
It is our job to always be skeptical.
But given what we've all been through in the last however many years, I think we're well aware of some of the biases that are quite apparent on Twitter.
You know, I'm looking at people whose accounts have grown for the first time in forever.
And you're saying, well, why is that?
I think there's been, perhaps even just overnight, a loosening of some of these algorithms Perhaps they don't want to be exposed for them when Elon gets in there and sees what's really going on.
But, you know, look, I understand what Alex is saying, and I get it, right?
We have to remain skeptical.
But nonetheless, it is so important right now that something change, because too many people are getting shut out of the conversation.
And they're being shut out by not even always real people.
I mean, there are certainly plenty of real people that feel very strongly that it's, you know, their way or the highway over there.
I think, within the upper echelons of some of these big tech companies, including, of course, Twitter.
But there's also bot factories and troll factories that are hard at work to try and damage the other side.
And so I think, consequently, you're just getting really kind of a milquetoast version of speech that's out there.
And the danger in this, and you know this very well, Seb, given your background, but the danger in all of this is when you start to suppress speech and you don't allow people access to information or to books or to shows or to podcasts or whatever it may be, then people start to really question the system, right?
And that's what breeds the mistrust.
It's not the social media that's bred the mistrust.
It's actually the willingness, I think, of big tech to clamp down on opinions that they don't like that's breeding this mistrust, as we have seen throughout history in a lot of bad places in the world.
Yeah.
I asked my tech maven, John, you know who you are, if he'd seen anything change in the last three days on my Twitter account.
He said, oh, nothing except in these categories you've seen an increase.
Clicks on links, retweets, likes, and replies.
So only those major categories.
Okay, so let's go to the meat of the matter.
This is a 45, 46 billion dollar deal.
Clearly there's a lot of shredding going on, a lot of bleach bit being used in Palo Alto right now to cover the traces.
Nevertheless, he's quite a force of nature.
Can they stop this guy?
Can they put a spanner in the works?
And how long is this really going to take for Musk to take over control?
So, look, they could, theoretically, if someone were to come out of the woodwork and say, I'll offer more than $54.20 a share, the board would have to.
They'd be ignoring their fiduciary duty, the duty that they signed on for, if they didn't entertain other offers that came out, if any come out.
But, I mean, let's not forget, this is a 38% premium on where the company was already trading.
And I think, I don't think there's anybody that's really willing to pay that.
The other complicating thing here, and I think that the board probably took this into consideration when they were okay with doing this deal, is Elon himself, right?
I love him.
I think the guy's an absolute genius, a total innovator.
He is a businessman.
What happens if he gets cold feet?
What if those numbers come out tomorrow on Twitter or at some other point with quarterly earnings and we learn that, you know, the company is just...
Lousy.
Like, really losing it.
Not profitable in any way like it used to be.
Not that it was ever really profitable.
But those are things that could come up.
If Elon said, well, I didn't sign up for this, he could walk away from the deal, but he'd have a massive fee that he'd have to pay out of his own pocket.
So I don't necessarily see that one happening.
But there are things, right?
I mean, it's going to take six months to close.
So this is why there's actually a market in trading, you know, the RISKARB guys going into action here because they're trying to see, will the company actually close this deal?
Will it really happen?
And I think it will.
Well, we know somebody who's going to keep her eye on it for us.
You've got to follow this lady right now.
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Al, California, line two.
How are you doing, Sebastian?
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Hey, I've got a question for you.
But first, one thing, do you have a rule where it's one question per customer per week?
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Okay, well, I didn't want to overstep the boundaries, but here's my question.
Elizabeth Warren said something I've heard a lot of people on the left say.
We want to, we must be in accordance with our values, meaning if you don't believe in open borders, for example, or endless gun control laws, you're a bad person.
See, that's this sort of subtext.
Right.
Have you ever heard that phrase a lot?
I've heard talk of it, but at the end of the day, there's a very simple summary, Al.
Their values is hating America.
That's what actually keeps these people together.
They hate the nation that we love.
Phil, Philly.
Hey, Dr. G. Yeah?
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I am a practicing American.
I'm a practicing American.
My point was, with the next D'Souza's movie coming out this weekend, I can't wait to see it.
The one thing I think people are overlooking are when these governors ordered these Poor senior citizens to stay in those nursing homes.
These ballot harvesters could not pull off what they had to pull off if these were surrounded by doctors and nurses.
That's why they were kept in the nursing homes.
And I think if you took death certificates and matched it up with ballots, you'd see every one of them voted for Biden.
Yeah, the trouble is these ballots, and this is why it's so easy to commit fraud, Phil, once they're out of the envelope, once they've been harvested in those Zuckerberg drop boxes, once they remove them from the envelope, they're anonymous.
Your name isn't on them.
So the fact is you can't check them against the voter rolls.
You can't check them against The death certificates.
However, when you see it released in just a couple of weeks, next week, next week, when you see 2000 Mules, the movie by Dinesh, we're going to go to Mar-a-Lago.
We're going to have a premiere.
The evidence is incontrovertible.
At least 400,000 ballots illegally harvested in states like Georgia, where it is a crime to harvest ballots.
It's gonna be a real political tornado.
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Well, some news from Washington.
Today was the next president, Kamala Harris, has tested positive for COVID-19.
Thankfully, Harris is feeling good and will remain isolated just like she has since taking office.
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That's not a good sign, is it, if the left-wing comedy evening shows are making fun of Kamala Harris, then it means they really are in trouble.
Welcome, friends.
This is America First.
I'm your host, Sebastian Gorka, with a regular guest.
Truly is our West Coast Warrior Princess host, co-host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, and also crntalk.com.
We can't see her today because she's in an undisclosed location.
Jennifer Horne, welcome back to America First.
Thank you.
I'm house-sitting in Mark Levin's bunker today.
I think that's where I'm calling from.
That's classified.
Don't say that.
Okay.
We can talk about that.
The left making fun of both Biden and Kamala.
But first, I want to ruin your day.
I'm sure you know it already because you've done 17 hours of radio already.
But tell me if I'm shallow for this reason.
I am really pissed.
And I mean, really angry that Biden Trying to be like Obama has again banned incandescent light bulbs.
I'm not joking, Jen.
I'm like, A, there's the, you know, it's so stupid, and B, there's actually a war in Europe and this is their priority.
Have I got things out of proportion?
No, you are absolutely right.
It is so annoying.
I want the old-fashioned light bulbs.
Bring back Trump.
Make my light bulbs great again.
Because he's the reason we got him back.
You know, in California, it is very difficult to find a good old-fashioned light bulb because they're all about incandescents around here.
And I went into a store, this is a true story, probably two, three weeks ago at the most, because my lighting in my closet went out.
And so I'm looking around.
I want good old fashioned light bulbs.
Of course, all I can find are these incandescent things.
So I go, all right, I'm going to do it.
I've got these things in my closet.
First of all, I can't see anything.
I have to bring everything out to see if I'm matching into the regular light that I have going on in the room.
Every it makes you look like you're sick inside there.
I don't.
I mean, maybe everybody needs to look like Biden.
Maybe that's the whole reason.
We all look a little ill if we've got these incandescents going.
But not only that, have you read the super politically correct ones that twirl around like a serpent?
If you read the box, do you know what the box says?
I'm sure you do.
If you smash the light bulb, you basically have to call in L.A.
County hazmat.
Because the inside, the chemicals, the minerals inside the bulb are so toxic that you have to treat it like a chemical spill.
So that's how they're going to save the planet by giving us light bulbs that are actually dangerous.
Yeah, you actually, I mean, it really does.
It tells you to evacuate your home immediately if you break one of them.
But this is the left, right?
We're going to save the planet.
We're going to kill you humans, but we're going to save the planet.
So, you know, hallelujah, I suppose.
All right, let's jump from the mundane, although it is important, to the political, to the swamp.
We opened the show an hour ago with a whip, Steve Scalise.
I haven't even played the audio.
Let's play it here.
Let's play it with Jen so we can actually discuss it.
This is another of the New York Times RNC-GOP meeting audio leaks.
This is Cut Ten, Kevin Murphy talking about Matt Gaetz.
I just got something sent now about Newsmax, something that Gage said, where he's calling people's names out, saying an anti-Trump, and this type of atmosphere.
And some of the other places.
This is serious stuff people are doing that has to stop.
Yeah, Gage said, Gage, that was specifically, I just saw that on Twitter.
Someone just sent it.
Gonzales just sent it to me.
So I'm calling Gage.
I'm explaining to him.
I don't know how I'm going to say it, but I'm going to have some other people call him, too, but the nature of what... If I'm getting a briefing, I'm going to get another one from the FBI tomorrow.
This is serious s***.
We have to cut this out.
Well, he's putting people in jeopardy, and he doesn't need to be doing this.
We saw what people would do in the Capitol, you know, and these people came prepared with rope, with everything else.
So they're trying to use that audio cut, Jane, to make Matt Gaetz, Steve Scalise look bad.
I think it does neither.
However, I do think, I'll repeat what I said last week on the first audio hit, it just makes Kevin McCarthy look weak.
Especially after last week he said, oh, oh yeah, I may have said that I was going to tell the president to resign, but I never told him.
Isn't that an admission that he's not fit to be a future speaker if we win in the midterms?
Well, and here's why.
And look, there are a handful of things that Kevin McCarthy has done that are good and valuable, and he did work well with President Trump for the most part.
But what I question about him is what I question about most Republican leaders, and that is their backbone.
We have got to take a breath.
We cannot, and we continue to do this.
You know we do, Seb.
Republicans, the minute you call somebody a sexist or a racist or identity politics are thrown at us from the left, a lot of our elected officials in Washington, D.C., back away.
That's what Trump broke.
He broke the mold.
I always say to you he has no shame bone, and that was good.
He taught the Republican Party how to fight.
What scares me about Kevin McCarthy is not whether he's a good guy or a bad guy or evil or not.
What disturbs me is that he's got no backbone, which is very reminiscent of the Republican Party of old.
We have to pause.
We have to take a breath.
We have to see what we're dealing with before we make broad assertions that the president has to resign or that we have to kick people on the so-called far right off of Twitter because they're too dangerous.
We need leadership that has enough strength to say, let's wait until we know what we're dealing with before we start with these things that are going to come back.
They're always going to come back to get these guys because everything is recorded.
Everything is out there.
You know, how did we get these recordings I think is one question, but certainly can Kevin McCarthy lead is probably what I'm most concerned with.
That is a truly sagacious comment.
That is the art of leadership, whether it's politics, private business, the military.
You have to stop the immediate reaction reflex.
The idea that you're in trouble, or your community, your group, your tribe is in trouble, and then the reflex to panic.
And you can hear it.
He is doing a reflex action, He says, you know, Newsmax reported something.
Well, he doesn't even know what Newsmax reported, but he's saying that Matt Gaetz is getting people in trouble.
That is not how a leader reacts.
Okay, let's go to the other side of the aisle.
Revelations abound with regards to Hunter Biden, new bank accounts, 5.1 million not declared by Joe Biden, and this is Jen Psaki's reaction when challenged.
Cut 4, play cut.
Does the President still maintain that he never spoke with his son about his business dealings?
And given this reporting on Eric Schwerin, does he also say that he has never spoken to his son's business partners about his son's business dealings?
He maintains his same statements that he's made in the past.
I would say I know you're referring to WAVES records that were released more than 10 years ago.
I really don't have more detail or information on them.
I'd note that there was a gap when WAVES records were not released.
But I don't have more information about visits from more than 10 years ago.
So 19 visits.
Now another 9 identified by Hunter Biden's business partner to the White House to see Vice President Biden.
Communications that reveal there was a bank account they were using in that business for Joe Biden.
There's email traffic saying that Biden paid the bills for his son.
And then we find out that Joe Biden recently made $5.1 million that he forgot to declare or report to the Ethics Committee.
Is it just you and me?
I know I asked you this before.
Is it just you and me that notice this stuff?
Or at some point does the broader American public, who aren't following the political wheel every single day, do they say, huh, that ain't right?
Well, it's really funny, Seb.
My litmus test is always my mom.
I always talk to you about my mom.
She's a liberal in my life, for those of you that don't know.
And I made a comment to her.
There was a story about, well, there were a couple of really salacious stories out this week about Hunter Biden and the intimate details of conversations that he had with Beau Biden's wife, who he was in a relationship with and I guess was also involved with her sister and then an adult dancer. who he was in a relationship with and I guess I mean, the guy is a disaster.
And my mom goes, oh, he's really a mess.
He's really, you know, boy, he's really screwed up.
And I thought that's a change because the left used to just say, oh, Hunter, there's nothing wrong.
But he hasn't done anything that the Trump kids haven't done.
I mean, that was always kind of the go-to response.
Now it seems that they're shifting, and I know that that shift is coming from leftist news sources like CNN and MSNBC, trying to put this all on Hunter.
Well, he's a disaster.
You know, that's what they're coming out with now.
But here's the thing.
Jen Psaki said something that's really telling.
She says, we're not going to comment on meetings that happened 10 years ago.
Yes.
OK, maybe on the surface you'll get some leftists to say, yeah, that's fair.
Why would we talk about that?
It was so long ago.
But here's the thing.
In 2020, on the campaign trail, they were very quick to comment that none of these meetings even existed, whether they were 10 years ago or not.
And not only that, they denied it, despite the fact that there's photographic evidence from a very swanky restaurant in Georgetown.
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So that's interesting what your mother said.
She's totally shifted.
I was reading her the story directly, and she goes, wow, he's such a mess.
And my other liberal friend was saying the same thing, that they are just, well, Hunter's just a disaster.
Which, that was never uttered before.
It was always, well, you know.
That's one thing, but do they draw political conclusions that that actually makes a difference with regards to his father?
I don't know.
I don't think so yet.
But I still really believe what we talked about on that panel at UNITE-IE, that there's going to be some kind of deal broker.
Things are heating up too much.
The fact that Merrick Garland's getting pushed to talk about a special prosecutor, the grand jury's been drawn.
I think there's going to be some kind of deal.
He's going to get out of the way just to save himself.
Whether they'll see any real repercussions, I don't know.
Actually, let's share that with the listeners.
That's such an important thing that we discussed there.
That's great.
Absolutely.
How's everything going there?
Good, really good.
We're off to Mar-a-Lago next week for... I'm going with you!
Superb!
Superb!
I know, I talked to Katie, I was like, alright, what are we wearing?
Yeah, so that'll be a lot of fun for the premiere.
Yeah, for the premiere of 2,000 Mules.
Have you seen it?
I have not.
I am so excited to see the whole thing all the way through.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
The preview alone looks great.
Yeah, just wait till you see all the data on a computer screen.
I can't wait.
Yeah, it'll be a lot of fun.
That's great.
I know, we'll have Grant there.
We're bringing out the big guns.
I know, I think everybody.
Dennis, Charlie, who else?
Eric, maybe.
Eric Metaxas.
Oh, that's right.
He was in it too, wasn't he?
Yeah, yeah.
It was Eric, Larry Elder, me, Dennis and Charlie.
We were on the sofa.
Did they invite Joe Walsh back to come?
Yeah, he brought the coffee.
He brought the coffee.
Yeah, right.
One thing he's good for.
He was the gopher.
So they donned.
Have they finished Joe Roof?
They're still working.
He came to me because I thought I was going to run over here, and he told me, he goes, you know, I didn't realize that we still had to do this portion.
I mean, they really pretty much destroyed it.
It was pretty bad.
He said, I realized we have to do this.
He said it's going to be another two hours.
So I thought, well, there you go.
I was going to run in.
I was going into the station after this, but I think I am officially a work from home today.
Can I show you my new toy?
Yeah.
What is it?
But I can't see you.
It's a sound box.
Is it like a little sound pad?
It's I found it on eBay.
It's from the 1970s.
It's got real fake plastic wood and it's called the Radio Shack Executive Stress Eliminator.
Oh my gosh, that is awful.
I mean, awesome.
And I love that you said real fake wood.
That's perfect.
Real fake.
You know, like everything back then was real fake wood.
It was real fake wood.
Either that or Corinthian leather.
Radio Shack is a throwback in and of itself.
Miss Radio Shack.
You would have loved this event that I hosted on Saturday with all the sheriffs from LA and San Bernardino and Riverside.
They had all the cool toys out there.
Don't start.
I saw the photograph.
I'm already jealous.
That's really cool.
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Jennifer, they're getting a little bit desperate.
I want to talk about a discussion we had at that amazing event that you hosted for us recently in California.
But here is a cut that really demonstrates the desperation of the legacy-lying mainstream media.
This is Joy Reid trying to give her version of a businessman buying a company.
Cut three.
The thing is, the enjoyment they get out of being in this town square is being able to harass people, being able to attack people.
There was a time when people had the double hashtags around their names because they were Jewish, and right-wingers were saying, get in the oven anytime you made any benign comment on Twitter.
They attacked women.
You know, the misogyny was crazy on Twitter for a while.
Elon Musk, I guess he, you know, he misses the old South Africa in the 80s.
He wants that back.
So a homophobe called Joyrie who had homophobic posts on her blog that she wrote is accusing the right of being the people who abuse social media and that Elon Musk is a pro-apartheid racist and a bigot.
Is this a sign of desperation or are we just inured and used to this?
You know, I think it is a sign of desperation, but more than that, I think it shows us just who the left is in this country.
They are a party of gaslighters.
I've talked about it with you.
I know that we've talked in the past about how the Biden administration gaslights everybody, right?
They pretend there's not a problem, that you're actually the problem when it comes to the border or COVID or anything else.
I think you're seeing Joy Reid do the same thing.
You know, for well over two years now, we've been told that Twitter is a place for free speech and that they aren't actually censoring conservatives.
Yet, in the last 48 hours, all of my conservative friends, including you, have seen their followers go up.
They've seen their tweets go up.
Yours have increased.
I mean, I know, me, all of my conservative friends, everybody that I work with in Los Angeles We're all seeing this now incrementally creep up.
So what are they doing?
Are they burning things down, their algorithms down, before Elon Musk can get in there?
Bleach Pit.
If nothing was happening.
Bleach Pit.
I'm sorry?
Bleach Pit.
Yeah!
They're bleach pitting everything.
Exactly.
They borrowed it from Hillary and they're bleaching everything out.
But it is pretty insane that for years we were told that there was nothing going on.
Now all of us in the last, you know, since Monday have seen big differences.
As far as Joy Reid goes, though, it is funny how the name-calling, they say, comes from the right, when it's clear who the bullies are on Twitter.
It's clear that if I had a nickel for every time Donald Trump was called a Nazi, I'd be a very, very rich woman right now.
All right, so there are signs of desperation clearly.
Is it because this senile puppet has to be jettisoned?
You floated a theory at the event you hosted just a few weeks ago where I was there with our Salem colleagues with Grant and everybody else.
Tell us what you think is likely going to happen because of this albatross that is Joe Biden.
Look, I fully believe that Joe Biden was... I believe that the Democrat Party has a lot of control over who the candidates are, who the vice presidential candidates are.
They're really in control.
Everybody wants to know who it is that's pulling the strings.
It's the swamp that is the Democrat Party.
They have far more control than the Republican Party has over who the nominees are.
Look, Joe Biden's nomination was dead.
He wasn't doing well until South Carolina, where they were able to get James Clyburn to come out and give him an endorsement.
He was able to win.
They used that one single win to catapult Joe Biden into the presidency.
So why did they do that?
They knew he was failing.
He's in a demented state of some kind.
And I don't say that lightly because it is hard to watch as someone who loves this country.
But he also was a transactional character, and they matched him with someone who was probably the most transactional politician ever, Kamala Harris.
I believe the plan was always to have Joe Biden get elected because he was acceptable to most branches of the party, get him into office, and have him out in a year or two.
But their problem is that Kamala Harris has proven herself, as we knew she would be in California because we've seen her before, to be completely unpopular.
So now they're in this position where they're kind of stuck with Biden.
I really believe the reason you're seeing Jimmy Fallon, the late night comics, the news media, liberals that might be in your life starting to talk about what a bad guy Hunter Biden is, is because they're finally giving you that story.
Twitter's finally letting us see it.
The news media on the left is now letting us see some of these stories about Hunter Biden, his laptop, and the business dealings that Joe Biden was definitely involved with.
And so why is that?
Well, I believe that they'll use that as a way to get Joe Biden out of office, to get him not to run again in 2024, and to say, you know what, we won't prosecute Hunter, we're not going to continue these investigations, but you have to go.
Go out quietly.
I really believe that's what's coming next.
But then what do they do with Kamala?
Do they just lock her away for the next two years because this woman is a disaster?
She's even worse now than she was as a senator.
I still think that in their demented way, the Democrats think that she would be a better match to go against President Trump because she's a black female.
And I have a feeling that even though they know she's an awful candidate, they've already started to try to rebuild her reputation.
In the news media, you know, they're sending her places now kind of safely and making sure she's got limited interactions with the media so that she doesn't have a chance to step on herself.
I would bet either they make a deal with her in some way, giving her some promise of something else down the road to get her out of the way, or they double down and push her and say, gosh, if you vote for Donald Trump, you're a racist because you have to vote for the first black woman president because the left is nothing without identity politics.
A stunning scenario, and I think you might be right.
I don't know what they do with Kamala, but the fact that the Washington Post, which has no interest in looking credible, finally admits after a year and a half that the laptop story is true.
Merrick Garland being forced to make public statements about his not interfering with the grand jury investigation.
of Hunter Biden.
These are all indicative of something, and they realize that this man cannot last, forget a second term, he can't last another two and a half years.
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Judy, Brooklyn, line 5.
Hello, Dr. G. Hey!
She's got solar panels?
Are you kidding me?
It's California, come on.
It's California.
Oh, terrible, terrible.
Listen, to me, Twitter is a seven letter dirty word.
Every time I hear this word Twitter, I literally cringe.
I'm so annoyed at it.
I think about what they did.
So guess what?
Are you on Twitter?
Are you on Twitter, Judy?
No, I'm not, sweetie.
I'm not on Twitter.
And you know what?
Even though I am on Facebook, I was knocked off Facebook six times in less than a year.
Why?
Why am I not surprised?
Why am I not surprised?
Listen, listen, Dr. G, I cringe, so I would love to replace this with a three-letter word, okay?
F-O-S.
F like Frank, O-S, which stands for Freedom of Speech.
You are now on Freedom of Speech, where you can tweet where President Trump said, you all peacefully go home.
Hang on, hang on.
Are you talking about changing the name of Twitter, that Elon should change it?
Yes, yes, yes.
Interesting.
What about the fact that we've already got the President's Truth Social?
Well, you know what?
That's great.
But you know something?
Somehow this Twitter is just... You know, remember we were talking about it.
I'm not sure.
Let's see what... I think that if Elon Musk is really up and up, we can reward him.
But he's got to change the name and they've got to royally invite President Trump back because it's a huge honor to have him go back to Twitter.
But not Twitter.
I hate the word Twitter.
SOS.
They tried to rename Facebook.
What is it?
Meta?
Nobody's calling it Meta.
Maybe that could be something that Twitter could rebrand.
And I like that idea.
Freedom of Speech is the name.
But Truth Social is pretty good, too.
Thank you, Judy.
Superb suggestion.
I'm seeing the president next week.
I might have to suggest that he needs to have a big party if he ever goes back to Twitter.
Thank you, Judy.
Let's go to George, Ohio, line one.
Hi, Dr. Gordon.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay, so I've got an idea for a new t-shirt.
Uh-huh.
I don't know if you remember the old World War II posters.
They've always got like a pretty girl.
Oh yeah, like Rosie the Riveter.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well there's one with a pretty girl sitting on a tank and she's looking back with a wink and she's got a thumbs up and a big smile on her face and it says, you give me the stuff and I'll give them hell.
Change that face to Zelensky.
Are you going transgender on us there, my friend?
No, no, no.
No, it puts the lint on the tank.
Take the girl away.
All right, you give me the stuff and I'll give him... I like that.
I'm going to check the original design.
That's a great idea.
Stay on the line, George.
Let's give him a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
I like it.
Okay, Chuck, line three.
Let's change...
It to litter.
L-I-T-T-E-R.
I think it's more appropriate.
You mean Twitter should be litter?
Yes, thank you.
Number one.
Number two, congratulations on just you being you.
Why don't we use what we should use for Hunter Biden?
And it's Fortune Hunter Biden.
And it's a name that should be attached to him only because the definition of who he is, is then clearly, clearly given to everybody with whom we really want to pass this on to.
Say that again.
I had somebody talking in my ear.
What is your suggestion with regards to Hunter Biden?
Fortune Hunter Biden.
Fortune!
Oh my gosh!
That's really good.
And trust me, I mean, it is the best connection.
Did you come up with that, Chuck?
Well, of course.
While I'm sitting here paying bills, I came up with it.
Fortune hunter Biden that is really very good we might have to hashtag that and use that or stay on the line he should get a copy of uh let's give him defeating jihad that's what is there is there any doubt in the multiverse Any doubt at all that we have not only the best listeners but also the best callers.
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How do you want me... I'll mention the book, Standing Up to Goliath, the fact that you're a 28-year public school veteran.
Is there any other affiliation you'd like me to use?
We do run an organization called For Kids and Country and this film drives people to our organization to help them to educate others on getting out of the unions.
Are you the founder of that or president?
Yes, both.
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I think there's a typo in her bio.
She's the producer of a new film.
It's called, Whose Children Are They?
We had her on to discuss her prior book, Standing Up to Goliath.
It says here that she taught in the public school system for 28 years.
If that's the case, she must have started when she was 10.
Rebecca, welcome back to Salem.
Thanks so much, Sebastian.
I actually started when I was five.
Ah, see how rude I am?
I got it wrong.
She started when she was five.
Okay.
Well, I'm super excited about this movie.
It is available now through us at SalemNow.com.
It's about the indoctrination happening in the schools, the role of the unions, power, money, the anti-American curricula.
First things first, I'm just going to ask, you know, the dumb questions, the naive questions.
Is it as bad as I think it is, as America First, politicians, Ron DeSantis?
Do we really have teachers who are not only indoctrinating their students into anti-American beliefs, but also, I saw the story in Wisconsin, assisting children to quote-unquote transition to another gender without telling their parents?
Is this stuff real?
It's real.
And everything you're hearing, it's worse than you think.
So the first thing I want to lay out there is as a veteran teacher, most teachers are against all of this.
They're terrified by it.
They're disgusted by it.
And they have no idea that they're funding all of it through their union dues.
The so-called teacher unions are behind this whole nightmare.
And what they have done is they have indoctrinated many teachers because they took over our teacher colleges Last several decades and they have been pushing literally a Marxist communist agenda through our schools So some teachers they've been able to brainwash most they have not most are just terrified of what's going on and it's those that are indoctrinated and
activists that they literally choose and plop into our schools, those are the ones that are sexualizing your kids, teaching them to hate America, teaching them to hate each other, teaching them that there's a spectrum of genders, that there's not really just boys and girls, they can be any gender they want.
It's even the teacher unions who are behind boys dominating girls' sports.
I could go on for hours.
It's a nightmare, the schools are on fire, and we need to get the kids and the good teachers out while we put this fire out and restore our schools.
All right.
You've got to watch the film, Whose Children Are They?
Rebecca Friedrichs is the producer.
You can watch it through AskSalemNow.com, but here's my second question.
I don't see... I mean, we've got thousands, tens of thousands of teachers.
Why aren't there thousands of Rebecca Friedrichs who are saying, no, this has to stop now.
This is what the unions are telling me.
This is what the political activists are telling me.
You say there are good teachers out there.
Okay.
Why don't they have the courage at the risk of their jobs to actually do what you're doing?
Wow, that's such a great question.
First of all, the unions have been controlling teachers by using mafia tactics for decades.
So teachers are terrorized.
Teachers are like most Americans.
Look at this cancel culture we're dealing with.
How many people are standing up to that?
How many people are really, you know, putting their job on the line or their life on the line?
to stand up against this cruelty and this truly wickedness.
Not very many.
It's a small percentage.
Teachers are the same as regular Americans.
There are some who are standing up, some that are not.
I can tell you there are more standing up than you realize.
Unfortunately, the teachers' unions are also part of the mainstream media problem.
They give money to Media Matters.
And so they're silencing the voices of teachers like myself.
So I can tell you that teachers call me all the time.
and they're awakening and they're sick of these unions and they're working to leave them or to even some teachers are trying to decertify these unions out of their districts so it's happening there is an awakening but I'll tell you what would make teachers start to stand up and that's if Everyone would stand with them.
They've been alone.
They've been terrorized forever.
So if we can stand with teachers, I call it adopt a teacher, stand with them, educate them, strengthen them, they will find the courage and we can get rid of these unions.
She's the founder, she's the president of Four Kids and Country.
The book is Standing Up to Goliath.
The movie is Whose Children Are They?
We've got one minute left, Rebecca.
What can they expect when they see this movie?
Well, they can expect to see all of the evils that are in our schools thanks to these so-called teacher unions.
They'll learn about the communist agenda, how the teacher unions infiltrated, and what they're teaching your kids.
You'll learn about the critical race theory, the radical sexualization of the kids, The anti-discipline policies that the unions pushed through the Obama administration that have literally led to school shootings and war zones in our classrooms.
So they'll learn about all these different things going on, but they'll also learn that they can join us.
They can come to whosechildrenarethey.com for the movie, click on join the movement, and we can help you.
Once you come to our movement, we can help you adopt teachers, help teachers get out of the unions, help you to find school options, all sorts of things.
So you'll not only learn what's going on, but you'll be empowered to help us to end these nightmares and to restore our schools.
All right.
Give us that website one more time, Rebecca.
The movie website is WhoseChildrenAreThey.com.
The movement is ForKidsInCountry.org.
God bless this woman.
Keep doing what you do.
Watch the movie.
We will continue the conversation at another date.
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The teachers are being terrorized.
No, they're terrorizing the teachers.
No, they're terrorizing they're terrorizing the teachers.
No, they're terrorizing the teachers. they're terrorizing the teachers.
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Dr. G is in the house on America First.
Boris Johnson came out recently and said he would ban biological males, people born with biological male bodies who transition, he would ban them from then competing in women's sport.
Good.
Do you agree with that?
I do, I do.
I agreed with it long before anybody else.
I think it's ridiculous and it's sad and it's bad for the Democrats because they're not going to do that.
One of the big questions being put to lots of politicians right now is what is a woman?
I'm not going to respond to the question but a woman is a woman is somebody that swims at a certain time and doesn't get beaten by 38 seconds by somebody that wasn't even a good swimmer as a male.
That's one way of answering it.
You gotta love it.
Piers Morgan tried to trap the President and he said, yeah, a woman is the one that hasn't been a bad swimmer for years and then puts on a swimsuit for a girl and pretends to be a girl.
Nicely done.
Breaking news, this is an update on the White House Correspondents' Dinner this weekend.
President Biden will skip the, quote, eating portion what a weird headline the eating portion of the white house dinner isn't that the point of the white house correspondence dinner the the dinner part of it um allegedly to avoid covid risk but hang on a second Didn't we just spend two years on planes taking off our masks to eat?
When we went to the restaurant we were allowed to take off our mask when we were eating because there was no risk from COVID magically.
But I guess the quadruple vaccinated Sleepy Joe, well, as Jeff said, I guess he can't stay up that late for dinner.
Let's go to Matt, Line 2, North Carolina.
Hello, Dr. Gorker, Commander Conservative Radio.
I know you're pressed for time, but I want to make this fast.
Yes.
The reason why Biden cancelled the incandescent light bulbs, which I'm going to stock up on, by the way, Because the lightbulb, the bulb in his brain is burned out and everybody knows it.
United States.
Yeah, I think.
And everything he's done, everything he's done to cancel Trump's good work is destroying this country, sir.
It's pathetic.
Just pathetic.
The idea that Russia is cutting off gas supply to our allies in NATO, like Poland, and they're announcing that they're going to ban.
This is, this is Obama redux.
President Trump undid it.
I went and stockpiled incandescent light bulbs and I was so happy when my boss said this is absurd this is nuts we're gonna let Americans buy what they want to buy now he's doing it again this is the level of statecraft and I'm gonna join you Matt I'll be right after the show stocking up I'll be stockpiling real light bulbs because that's what Americans should be allowed to do.
Next up one-on-one with a very special guest we've been trying to get her on the show for Long time.
She's difficult to get on, but she is a rock star.
And we're going to talk about men, what it means to be a real man, and who the fake men are.
Yes, the cowards, the fake conservatives, the cuckolds.
That's going to be next here on America First 101.
wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that dial.
Thank you.
We pride ourselves here on America First, especially the third hour one-on-one, to go deeper, to give you access to newsmakers, real experts, in the long form that I love.
I know I've got a show that lasts for three hours and people want the breaking news.
You know, what did Elon do?
What senile thing did Slow Joe do?
We give you that for two hours.
We give you guests for a couple of segments and calls.
But the real thing is the long form.
And let me show you How it should be done, because we're not here for clickbaits or outrage, okay?
We are here for serious, serious content.
And there's a young lady who, well, she is a paragon, and should be a paragon not just to other young women, but to professionals everywhere, to broadcasters.
She was insulted, she was sworn at on a show recently by somebody who is a fool, and this was her response a couple of days after.
Play cut.
And I also want to say here too that we have had so many guests on the show so far in the short time that it's been running, and not once have I ever gone out of my way to denigrate or embarrass somebody just for the sake of doing it.
And I will note too that I've been sat opposite people that I really don't like as people.
And I've been sat opposite people whose ideas really, really rub me the wrong way.
Whose ideas I never ever want instituted in any capacity because I think that they're corrosive.
And yet in those situations, not once have I attacked them, or embarrassed them, or gone out of my way to be hurtful and unkind to them.
Because that is not the kind of show that we run.
That is not the kind of person that I am.
That is Sidney Watson, who's a better person than I am, because I don't sit down in the same room with people I don't like.
And if I see people I don't like, like General John Kelly, the seditionist in the White House, I go up to them and I tell them what I think about them.
Which is something my poor wife has just had to get used to.
It's just who I am.
She's got better self-control and we are delighted after maybe a year trying to get her on the show.
She's Sydney Watson one-on-one.
Welcome my friend.
No, thank you for having me centrally.
And no, I don't think that I'm a better person than you.
The difference is that you get a say in who you interact with, whereas sometimes I don't.
So there is that.
Look, there is that, but sometimes, you know, you're in a situation where somebody you don't like is in the room.
I react differently, I think, to that than you did.
Look, for those who aren't familiar, this woman, why aren't you familiar with her?
She's got almost 800,000 followers on YouTube.
Sydney Watson with a Y. You've got to follow her on Twitter as well.
But for those crazy people who've been under a rock for a couple of years, I've known you for a couple of years.
Very impressed with what you do.
Tell us in a nutshell, just give us the elevator pitch.
What do you do and where do you come from?
Sydney?
Well...
People are seemingly unfamiliar with the fact that I am actually Australian despite my bizarre accent, which I am trying to get back just by the way.
I want to sound more like Yousef than the Yanks that are around us.
So I'm Australian originally.
I'm from Australia.
I moved to the United States in 2019 to basically pursue politics because Australians are, by and large, pretty disinterested in politics.
And kind of just found myself drawn into, I guess, a bunch of drama in the last little while.
With, you know, the situation that you're referring to, which was getting screamed at effectively by Jack Murphy.
Are we allowed to say his name on the show?
I was going to mention it, but I'm so glad that you decided to mention it first, because Jack Murphy is an embarrassment to anybody who has testicles.
I'm not sure he does anymore, but we will discuss that.
So you left the Antipodes, you came here to be involved in politics.
You wanted to speak like me which I'm sorry most people think I have a South African accent that really annoys me but but what have you been doing for the last three years and how have you been surviving COVID and tell people about what you do because your comment you are like the The long-form version, as far as I'm concerned, of libs of TikTok and you're not anonymous.
You're a brave woman who has these amazing films where you react to the insanity of the left.
Am I misrepresenting you?
Tell us your mission.
We've got three million listeners plus the viewers.
What is Sydney Watson about?
Well, that is a fantastic question.
I guess growing up in, by and large, a penal colony kind of made me realize that freedom is really important, and I actually have my mom to thank for that viewpoint, because she's from Ohio originally, and she's just this badass gung-ho woman that, you know, really, really cares about preserving what we have in the West, and I think that's awesome.
And so growing up in that environment, of course, I was like, well, I hate people.
So what is the easiest thing that I can do that revolves around not really interacting with them too much?
And journalism kind of came to the forefront.
And so when I moved to America, I really wanted to pursue being able to bring ideas to people that they might not otherwise have access to in a fuller capacity.
Because you probably know this too, working in the media space, people tend to parrot one another.
And that's always bothered me.
And I thought, If I can just deep dive into topics and bring things to the forefront that people really care about but can't look into themselves, then I think that's what I'd like to do.
So I started off in the men's rights space.
In Australia, there's a very strong anti-male rhetoric.
It's very gynocentric, and that really annoyed me.
Even though I'm a female, that really annoyed me.
And so I had protests and things that I ran.
I talked a lot about it, made a lot of feminists very angry back home.
And so here, I wanted to keep doing the same things.
I wanted to look into men's rights issues.
So a lot of the content that I create and continue to create is basically deep dive content.
So if you go to my channel and you check out my content, you'll find that, you know, you can find a range of different topics, whether it's a men's rights thing or a guns rights thing or At the moment, I'm really stuck on the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard situation simply because, again, I feel like you get a lot of really skewed information.
And I just go into it and I go, well, what's crap and what's real?
Let's find the truth between all the nonsense.
Hang on.
You said something and I think I misheard it.
You say you hate people.
No, no, no.
I hate people.
There's no one with the sense of humor that you have that actually hates people.
So what are you talking about, Watson?
I'm not a great fan of the general... I don't know, people aren't great these days.
Maybe that's just because I spend a lot of time on the internet.
And I'm very thankful that many of the people I actually am friends with are lovely, wonderful people.
I live in Texas now, and Texans are wonderful, lovely people.
But I also just don't like... I guess you all qualify my comment.
I don't like this service industry.
And that's kind of where I came from with every job that I ever had was just dealing with cranky customers.
And I would think to myself, why are you yelling at me?
I didn't do anything.
I'm just here trying to sell you this handbag.
Please stop screaming at me.
Yeah, I've told my family I'm so blessed that I never worked in the service industry.
I was a furniture remover in college.
I was a security guard, but if I'd had to actually serve somebody a plate of food, I would have got in trouble on the very first day.
All right, before we get on to all of these big highfalutin concepts, you've got to help me with one thing.
I've asked Australians for two years straight now.
Nobody's given me an answer.
What the hell happened to one of the most masculine cultures in the world?
I've been to Australia.
It is paradise on earth.
How did COVID turn them into a voluntary penal colony again?
Can you explain this to me, Sydney?
Well, the first thing that you need to recognize about Australia is that it's not comparable to the United States.
If anything, it's closer to what you probably experience living in the UK and, you know, basically the way that Brits are a lot of the time.
Because, you know, Brits, I think, too, love authority.
And Australians are quite similar.
And feel free, Seb, to correct me on that one, but that's how I've always felt, is that the Brits and Australians love authority.
And it's kind of strange because it's this weird dynamic where on one hand you have the really true blue Aussies who live out in the country who are like, leave me alone.
I just want to drink my beer and work my job and hug my wife.
And then you have the city Aussies who are probably comparable to those here in the US who are like, yay, you know, govern me harder, daddy.
So there is this dichotomy in Australia.
It's very strange.
But I think the prevailing thing here and the best way that I can explain it is that Australians value security over freedom.
Now, for an American, that is mind-blowing.
They just go, how?
How could you possibly trust the government?
But again, there's such a strong relationship to the government that Australians have where they're either completely politically ambivalent or they trust them with absolutely everything.
Australia is extremely over-regulated, always has been, and you sort of get used to that and you sort of You sort of expect that, so when the government turns around to you and says, hey, actually, you have to be gulags for two weeks if you have the sniffles, you go, well, okay, the government seems to have my best interests at heart, I suppose I'll just do that.
But I will say, I do think the breaking point was reached for a lot of Aussies, and I think this was their waking up moment, because people that I know, even, who historically have been not left-wing necessarily, but just sort of, you know, oh, she'll be right, They've turned around and said, oh, she will not be right, and you will not tell me what to do.
And so I think there is a shift happening, but Aussies are very, very difficult people to explain, because there is that hyper-masculinity, but it also is overshadowed by this bizarre trust in government.
Fascinating.
I think we have one potential title for this segment.
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Hilarious.
She does ads with herself, with a doppelganger.
I'm not going to explain it.
It's just hilarious.
Clearly she has a funny bone that stretches through her whole body.
But let's talk about your past life.
This phrase, men's rights, always gives me the heebie-jeebies.
I find it disturbing.
I think negative association is the biggest weakness for me.
I associate it with weak men, with men who have no stamina or backbone, the cliché of the incel or what have you.
Do we need a men's rights movement or do we just need normalcy and to stop the insanity and to understand a man is this, a woman is that, and these things have been true for millennia?
Talk to me about how you got involved in all of that and try and educate me.
Well, I also find the term men's rights activist to be really cringy and I, similarly to you, I don't particularly like when people use it and I certainly don't like when they attribute that to me because I don't think I'm an MRA, I just think I'm a person that cares about men and women.
Because even in recent months and since my experience with Jack Murphy and some of the other things that happened on You Are Here when I was part of it, which was a show that I was hosting, you know, I was sat opposite misogynists who clearly don't like women, who clearly have very strong feelings.
And so it gave me a unique understanding of, oh, this actually happens.
It does happen on the other side towards women.
And so it's helped me, I think, have a greater understanding of when men aren't treated so well.
And the reason I got involved in this is because, again, Australia hyper-focuses on the behaviour of men.
So, for example, if a woman is brutally assaulted or if a woman is murdered and it becomes a national story, people will often start the narrative and the rhetoric of, oh, let's teach men not to be violent, let's teach men not to rape, when in reality, the portion of men that are committing crimes like that is small enough as it is.
And I don't discredit the fact that men commit the majority of crimes anyway, and there's a multitude of reasons for that.
The narratives that ultimately come out basically demonize and attribute these horrible characteristics to all men, and that's not true.
And so I think that a lot of men these days are feeling so downtrodden and so overwhelmingly attacked for just by virtue of the fact they happen to be men.
I mean, think about all the toxic masculinity discussions that you've heard over the years and all of these brands and leaders in our governments and what have you, who just constantly levy all of their hatred towards the male Species!
I think to myself, this is not appropriate, this is not important, and who will fight for men if men themselves really can't fight for themselves?
So, I think that the men's rights thing probably exists out of the fact that we don't let men be men, and we don't let women be women.
So, for now, I think there's a need for it.
But, you know, if we were just to stop attacking each other, perhaps we wouldn't need any of this at all.
I don't know, it's a hard one, and I get what you're saying, and I agree with you overall, but I also see how badly men are affected by all of this, and it makes my heart hurt, because it goes through the court system, custody disputes, men are taking their lives at a much higher rate than women, even though women try a lot harder but fail a lot of the time.
So yeah, there's a lot of factors in this.
All right let me run something past you that kind of caught me unawares.
I think he's one of the most intelligent podcasters out there.
I try and listen to every single episode and that's Andrew Clavin and we were having cigars recently and he said you know this war or you know this transgender insanity he said it's primarily a war on women.
And he sees the main avenue of assault being the feminine, because if you take them out, then everything else crumbles.
And I'm still struggling with that because I think the whole toxic masculinity thing from the Gillette ad to everything else is also noxious.
But what do you think about Clavin's take that the primary target is actually women in this war of the sexes, this new war of the sexes?
Yeah, that's a big claim.
I think perhaps the transgender thing has a lot to do with transing away the gay.
I don't know if you've heard that phrase, but I've been looking into it a little bit recently.
Explain that.
Explain transing away the gay.
I think that's a fascinating concept.
So unpack that for our listeners and viewers.
Well, so, transing away the gay is effectively the idea of taking somebody who would otherwise grow up to be a relatively well-adjusted, we would hope, gay person, and instead wanting a straight child, if that makes sense.
So rather than having a gay son, you would have a straight daughter.
And so what's been really interesting... Hang on, hang on.
- Hang on, but when you say straight, you mean a transitioned male?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
So now that that boy who would have been attracted to boys is now a girl who's attracted to boys.
So by, you know, our societal standards, that's a straight person.
You know there's relationships where you see two transgender people, one of either sex, who are dating?
It's just like being in a straight relationship with extra steps, you know what I mean?
So the transing away the gay thing Is taking someone who, uh, you know, who will be a homosexual or, you know, a lesbian and basically saying, well, you can't be that.
Instead, let's make you, you know, the opposite sex.
Now, that can either come from parents, which is, that's been, that's been super interesting to find out that a lot of parents will push their children towards, um, being transgender because it's easier for some reason For them to accept a transgender child rather than a gay child.
And that's not just, you know, that's not in the conservative world.
That's across the board.
It is the strangest phenomenon.
And I've reached out to transgender friends of mine or people that I have relationships with and I've said, have you experienced this?
And a number of them have said, yes, it was easier for my parents to accept me as a transgender person than as a gay person.
That is huge, Seb.
I don't understand that at all.
But that's just me.
And then the other part of it is people who, you know, know that they're gay, but don't want to be gay, so they transition instead.
That is... I never thought I'd have a national radio show where we're talking about these things, but that explication goes a long way to try and make things actually logical in an insane world.
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Let's talk about what happened with this fake man.
And I don't mean he's a transgender woman.
He's a fake man.
He's Jack Murphy.
He dyes his beard.
He pretends that he's super tough and manly.
He's a weirdo.
I saw him once at a reception.
He is weird.
He's also weak.
He's a coward.
And he's the definition of a cuckold.
He is.
The liminal cuckold is who he is.
He insulted you.
In front of your co-host, he railed at you.
You did nothing wrong.
You read a DM or, you know, one of these paid-for chat things, a question from a viewer.
He swore at you incessantly.
Then your co-host takes him out for drinks and dinner.
As far as I'm concerned, the man who said, I did this because I'm standing up for the truth, he's part of the problem because that's not what a man does.
As far as I'm concerned, a man always protects the vulnerable, starting with women and children.
Yeah, so the Jack Murphy thing was interesting because I still think that people now believe that I read the chat pertaining to his legitimate cuckold experiences intentionally, and I didn't.
I just don't know why I would know something like that.
And then the way that it played out was very not acceptable to me on a bunch of different levels, and I have tried really hard to be Quite temperate about it.
Although I confess I didn't have the greatest emotional reaction to it I was very taken aback and I was very disturbed that somebody would react in that capacity towards me and And then I, you know, I suppose that at the time I was mad at the response of people around me because I thought, I don't necessarily need anybody to support or defend me by virtue of the fact that I'm a woman.
Although I love that men do feel so strongly about protecting women.
I think that is one of the greatest things about men as a general rule, that protective instinct.
But you know, I mean, I grew up with brothers.
Like, I've been punched in the face.
Like, it's fine.
So I suppose that for me, I was like, well, the reason why you would defend me is simply just because I'm a person.
If you were in the same room as me, Seb, and someone spoke down to you and I have a lot of love for you, I'd turn around and I'd be like, don't talk to him like that.
So I think there's this natural response that you should have towards situations where, you know, you jump in because you care about someone and you don't want them to be spoken down to or screamed at or, you know, told to, what was it, F off or whatever he said at the end there.
He actually told me to F off a few times.
Oh, it was like six times.
I watched the interview.
I watched the interview again and let me be clear, one of the most, you know, pathetic things people have said to try and justify Jack Murphy's behavior is that men are simping or white knighting for you.
No, no, no.
Simping is when you are sexually attracted to a woman you've never met and you want to defend them because you fancy them.
What we're talking about is the male instinct, the right thing for men to protect all women and children, which has nothing to do with simping.
And the idea that this man, who wrote an article that he has paid the Wayback Machine to delete, he wrote an article about how it helped his marriage to pick Pick men on Tinder for his wife to have sex with and how it strengthened his relationship.
That makes him a man.
No, go back to Shakespeare.
It makes you a cuckold.
It makes you the antithesis of man.
And the idea that you get people to pay you to teach them how to be a man is utterly, utterly pathetic.
But I'm going to say something that I've only told you.
I think I've met you twice at a party.
I've spoken to you maybe three times on the phone.
The video you did, after what that cowardly, pathetic, invertebrate Jack Murphy did, is one of the most powerful media products I've seen in 10 years.
The strength you showed, and the clarity of analysis, and the courage with which you spoke, Sidney, should be an exemplar to anyone who ever gets in front of a camera, and I want all of my listeners to know that.
I really really really like very much appreciate you saying that because that was a very stressful situation for me to navigate and I felt like there was a lot of competing factors.
I still feel like there's plenty of competing factors that I constantly am having to navigate.
I'm not really able to 100% say what I think which I Really don't like um, but yeah, I I really cannot tell you how much I appreciate that because I wanted to have my say and I wanted to lay some things out and I'm glad that It was received in a way that didn't make people think that I was either a being trying to be a victim Or be uh, you know trying to take stabs at people.
That's not what I was trying to do I simply wanted to clear the air and you know, even now looking back Of course we all wish that we could handle things differently and better, but I gotta say this, Seb, and I feel comfortable saying this on your show.
I probably, I'm not so sure if I would say it on anybody else's, but what I learned from that is that there are a buttload of LARPers, so live action role players, in the conservative space and in the right-wing space.
There's a lot of people who pretend that they support women and that they support, you know, Other people in the space when in reality they don't.
There's a lot of men who are behind closed doors are nothing.
They are not anything that they purport to be.
And then when they're live on air, or when they're talking, you know, at conferences or to, you know, people in the internet, they say, Oh, yes, I'm this.
I'm this.
I'm this.
I'm such a strong man.
Yes, emulate me.
And I know for a fact that they're not.
And so I think the fact that you feel so strongly towards that, and you've been willing to call a lot of this out, I respect immensely.
And I wish that more people would call this out, because this behavior is very common.
And it's more common than people realize.
And when you see it, it kind of gets you caught between a rock and a hard place.
Because as a woman who has worked in the men's rights field, who feels very strongly about protecting men, No.
People often will say, oh, you're just being a feminist now because a man was rude to you or because a series of things happened that you didn't like.
It's not a feminism thing.
It's a I will fight to the death to make sure that men are upheld, to make sure that men feel comfortable in society.
And I expect the same from anybody who purports to care about me as a person.
It's unfortunate that it has to come down to sex, but it does.
I mean, there's a lot of men who are LARPers, there's a lot of men who are fake as hell, and I gotta tell you Seb, it bothers me tremendously that they have any sort of influence over others.
Well, let's talk about how we can do something about those fake men, those fake tough guys in a moment.
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Now, we don't have a lot of time left, but I want to get you back.
I don't know if it's going to take another nine months to do so.
But here's the big question that has been, you know, eating at me for about a year, Sydney.
And maybe you can help me with your unique perspective and everything you've gone through with fake men like Jack Murphy and others.
I'm excited by, well, I'm depressed by the transgender agenda, but I'm also excited because people are waking up.
I'm excited by the impact deep thinkers like Jordan Peterson have had, the success of his books, you know, the make-your-bed philosophy for men and for anybody.
But here's my real issue, and it really goes to your experience with Jack Murphy on your Blaze program.
There's a massive component missing.
It's like there's a jigsaw puzzle and there's this huge jigsaw piece that's most of the puzzle that we don't have in the box.
And it is real manhood.
It is the reinvigoration, the revivification, the redefinition or the rediscovery of manhood.
Which, it's very difficult to talk about what being a man is because if you want, you don't want to talk about it.
It's embarrassing because it's just natural.
There's this moment when I was in a, it kind of helps illustrate, I was in a cinema In the country, with my kids, little kids, my wife, suddenly something breaks out in the back of the auditorium and I've been listening to it for a little bit and I realize violence has erupted and I just get out of my seat and I walk towards the violence to see if I can do something to stop it or protect my family.
And afterwards my wife said, why did you do that?
And I said, I don't know.
I didn't think about it.
A man does that.
If you're a real man, you do that.
If you're a, you know, a special forces guy, you run to the gunfire.
If you're Secret Service, you catch the bullets of the assassin with your body.
So, how do, here's my, let me translate it into simple words.
How do we go from the intellectual movement of the Jordan Petersons To just the raw rediscovery and, and, and, and, you know, putting the defibrillator on the body of manhood to waken it up again.
Well, I think first you've got to remove the, the constraints that are on men.
So for example, I mean, let's say that you see a pretty girl, let's say that you are not married for a second and you see a beautiful woman at the bar and you want to go and talk to her and you want to, you want to take this woman on a date.
There is a chance that she's going to turn around and be like, ugh, stop sexually harassing me.
And so if every time you try to do something that feels right and masculine and that's associated with your manhood to you, you go to try and execute that in real life and you're shot down for it.
Well, you're going to get to a point where you just go, I'm not even going to do that.
If everything that's associated with manhood, and by the way, how much people play into these stereotypes?
I don't know.
But let's just say that you love hunting or I don't know, you love fishing or digging holes in the backyard.
I assume men dig holes.
I don't know.
And every time you go to do these things, it's as if you're getting kicked in the face for it or told that you're a murderer or whatever the case is.
You're not going to want to do those things.
So I think that's a big factor is removing those constraints on men feeling so hyper-aware of their own behavior, particularly towards women, that they don't do anything.
It's almost like analysis paralysis.
And then another factor is that a lot of men don't have strong men in their lives.
So if it's like a trickle-down effect where your dad isn't in the picture or he's not very strong, And then you're born and you have nothing to emulate or nobody to look up to.
Your behavior is probably not going to be that strong unless you're this hyper masculine dude from the outset, which probably won't be the case.
And then you have children.
It's just a trickle on thing where you end up with baby children who scream at women in studios.
So I think that's another factor.
And then the last one is that, Seb, have you considered that in our Western culture, and this has been pointed out to me, and I think this is interesting, although I'm not entirely sure what I think, I'd be keen to hear what you have to say.
We don't have like a rite of passage for boyhood into manhood.
A lot of other cultures do.
Um, and they make you do some really, really, uh, intense things to, you know, make that passage.
But Western culture doesn't really have that.
I'd be interested to hear if you think it's necessary.
I'm not sure if it is, or if it would be a benefit, but I think that maybe even that mental shift from I'm a boy to a man maybe would make a difference for a lot of men.
All right, fascinating.
This is going to be the subject of a longer discussion.
So here are my initial responses.
Number one, I don't think you can initiate a rite of passage into a culture because that happens over millennia, over eons.
But the culture can't do it.
By flicking a switch.
But a nation can.
And I think national service for modern Westphalian nation states is that rite of passage.
So, you know, having to do really crappy, tough stuff, you know, as a conscript.
I mean, I voluntarily joined the British Army when I was in college.
It was a dare.
It was a bet.
I loved it.
Well, no, I hated it in some parts, but I loved other parts, and I wouldn't miss it for the world.
So, yeah, I think national service, and I don't mean the Peace Corps, I mean putting on a uniform, learning how to shoot, being imbued with an ethos of serving the other or serving the nation is right on there.
But let me throw back your language at you.
You said the restraints have to be removed.
Firstly, I fully understand.
My son's college years, when you talk to somebody in their early 20s and his friends and you say, every kiss could be an accusation of rape 12 hours later.
I mean, I don't know how young men live through that.
And that is the culture that you're in right now in college.
You know, you see a girl and you think, oh my gosh, how much has she drunk?
What is she going to say tomorrow?
Mind-blowing change in culture.
And I'm not arguing for promiscuity.
I'm arguing for a healthy relationship between the two sexes.
But you use the phrase, remove the restraints.
That's a passive phrase.
Nobody's going to remove the restraints for you, so what we have to do is behave in ways that break the restraints in a positive way.
Am I making any sense?
No, yeah, yeah, of course you are, yes, and I agree with you.
I don't have the solution, Seb, I freely admit that.
Think about this a lot, and I think part of our problem is that we have conditioned women, and this is why so many people are so hostile towards women, and sometimes very rightly.
When it comes to particularly, like you were saying, the sexual relationship between men and women, you never know how a woman is going to react out of embarrassment, you never know how she's going to react the next day if she regrets something, and it's very sad that consent has almost become sort of ammunition in these situations.
And so if you have young women being trained to think, well, I'm always the victim, I am the universal victim and men are the universal perpetrator, then it is incredibly challenging to fix that.
And especially if that's underpinning all of your relationships and all of your interactions with the opposite sex, it's going to be strained and it's going to be awful.
Now, I don't know how to fix that.
I don't know if that actually means training women not to think that way, rather than training men not to rape, as they love to say, the feminists love to say.
I don't have a solution to that, but I'm going to think about it now.
Good.
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We don't get, we don't tell our guests in advance, hey, these are the things we want you to talk about.
What do you think about them?
We don't test run in emails.
We don't have areas you can't talk about.
We don't rehearse them because we believe in authenticity.
So I'm going to ask you a question that may be hard for you to answer because you're a woman.
And that's sexist.
No, it's not.
It's a statement of fact.
She is a woman and she will be a woman forever.
Why the hell do you do what you do?
Because you have more spine and balls than many men in your age category.
And you are not a stimulant.
You are an individual who is a model for both sexes of your generation.
So was it your tough mom?
Was it what you saw in Australia?
I want you on camera right now to say why you are truly, in the best sense of the word, a warrior, Sidney Watson.
Seb, you're so nice to me.
You make me emotional when you say these nice things.
Okay, so that is a great question.
I am very, very, very flattered that you would call me a warrior.
That's kind of badass.
Can I say?
I don't know.
Yes, you did.
And you are badass, so you may say it.
I think a couple of factors.
I think there's a couple of factors.
My dad is the greatest person in the world and he has given me so many really cool characteristics.
I always say that I don't want to marry my dad because I am my dad.
Uh, he's just, he's just the greatest and my dad takes zero nonsense from anybody.
He will absolutely just tell you to your face that you're a bloody idiot and then move on with his day and he has no problem doing that.
And then also that coupled with my mom, she's just one of the, Most brilliant women that I've ever come across.
She's like a, she retains information.
She has awesome recall.
And I think growing up in that environment with two really neat parents that were just so supportive, always let me have a say.
And they were always like, if you're going to argue back with us, Sydney, make your arguments and your ideas rock solid.
And so that's what I grew up doing is if I wanted to fight for the right to have an extra hour of television time, I had to have a rock solid reason why.
And then I guess going through life, I have to attribute this a little bit to the fact that I'm not super empathetic.
It's, that's been a learned thing for me.
And I think learning to, this is going to sound so strange.
A couple of my friends think I'm actually like on the spectrum because of this, but having to learn how to interact with people and understand like, why are you upset?
I think in some ways has made me try really hard to get it.
And because I don't naturally care what anybody thinks of me and I don't naturally get upset by criticism.
I think these factors together have kind of put me in this position where I can say what I want to say without fear of what anybody thinks in return, and I really just believe in what I'm doing.
And you know what?
Integrity is one of the most important things to me, and I will always strive to do everything with integrity behind it, backing it.
All right, here's my responses.
Teach me how to empathize because I still don't know and I'm 51 years old.
Number two, I need to meet your parents because they really sound epic.
Number three, Sidney Watson's a free actor, guys.
If you work in TV or radio and you don't hire this lady now, you're a cretin.