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April 25, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Will Elon Musk buy Twitter today?

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	Welcome, dear friends.
	Greetings.
	This is America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.
	I have lots of cuts.
	Mr. G has been working very, very hard.
	Things to share with you.
	Lots of great clips from the president's speech there.
	But I think we've got a topic for the show today for the next three hours.
	Quite, quite stunning.
	According to the breaking news of seven minutes ago, Twitter has accepted the multi-cent-a-billion-dollar offer from Canadian South African-American Elon Musk for him to buy The most influential social media platform on the planet.
	We will discuss it.
	We planned this in advance.
	We looked into our crystal ball.
	We knew that we felt it in our marrow that it was going to happen.
	Of course we didn't.
	I didn't believe it when I came into our pre-production meeting.
	And I heard the news that they're considering his latest offer right now and then it just happens I thought that's I don't know if it's gonna happen well it doesn't matter because we were ready in any case the man who is the CEO of the conservative
	First Amendment alternative to Twitter, Truth Social, former chairman of the Intelligence Committee of Congress, will be with us momentarily, Devin Nunes, to discuss what this means for President Trump and for all people who believe in the First Amendment.
	Let's discuss with our team, because I need some reaction.
	I need some feedback.
	I need you, dear listener, to tell me what you think.
	So, after we talk to Devon, we will take calls.
	We'll reserve at least two blocks for this first hour.
	A couple of blocks in the next hour, because I... Do we trust Elon?
	Does the President go back to Twitter?
	What happens to Truth Social?
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	Let's start.
	Let's go with the man who's always sideways on my monitor.
	Don't ask why.
	It's a technical thing.
	He is John Jr.
	John, did you expect this news of nine minutes ago?
	I had an inkling that they might have to do this at some point, considering that we've been talking for the last week about the shareholders being able to sue and overrule.
	The Twitter board, so I thought it might happen, but just like you, I'm still a bit floored right now because this is huge news.
	Nothing like this has ever really happened before and it's hopefully a really good thing for free speech continuing on.
	Yeah, so just to do the math here, he bought about 9% of the shares himself.
	And then the board in total, the whole board, only owns about 10%, which means the vast majority, 80% of the shares, are owned by average people, investment funds and so forth.
	And they just, it looks like it, they liked the offer of Elon Musk.
	And as our next conversant, Eric said in our meeting, or was it... I don't know if it was Eric.
	It might have been Mr. G. Biggest purchase in history, and I think that is correct, whichever one of you said it.
	Eric, your reaction to the news of just 10 minutes ago.
	Oh my goodness.
	I said in the Showprep meeting, I'll say it again.
	We know the terms red pill and blue pill, right?
	There's a similar term on the online lexicon of white pill and black pill.
	White pill being a bit of good news, and black pill being bad news.
	This has got to be the biggest white pill since President Trump winning the election, I think.
	The importance of this really cannot be overstated.
	Twitter, as you said, it's the most influential social media platform.
	It was always Trump's biggest platform, 90 million followers.
	He was in the top five most followed accounts in the history of the website.
	This is massive, and especially going back into 2024 in the future, even 2022 right now, the midterms, this is huge.
	This is the biggest blow the left has taken in a long time.
	And watching them cry and just seethe and whine about it is so delicious, because they know how powerful this is.
	But you said something in the pre-show meeting about President Trump and Twitter.
	What did you say?
	I think he needs to get back on Twitter.
	Because there's no doubt in my mind, a large part of this, of Musk choosing to do this, was to get Trump back online.
	Because there's no question, the censoring of the sitting President of the United States is one of the most egregious acts of censorship in modern history.
	Really needs that platform.
	That always was his biggest megaphone.
	Yeah, he was big on Instagram and Facebook, but Twitter was the one.
	It was his signature, right?
	At real Donald Trump, the same profile picture all those years, the 3 a.m.
	tweets at Kim Jong-un, like, that was a huge part of his campaign, his presidency.
	So yeah, I eagerly await his return to Twitter as a result of this.
	However, let's not forget, and we're going to be talking to the CEO of Truth Social, that is President Trump's social media platform.
	I don't think he can go back to Twitter straight away.
	First, Elon Musk has to clean it up.
	He has to get back automatically.
	He has 93 million followers and the algorithms have to be fixed.
	So as to prevent conservatives being edited.
	Let's talk to John L. John L, I didn't get a chance to talk to you.
	You're far too busy making sure the Starship Enterprise is going to work on time.
	What's your stand on this breaking news of just 12 minutes ago?
	I honestly have absolutely no idea what to say.
	What?
	This is radio.
	You can't say that.
	Make something up quickly.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I got nothing.
	He's got nothing.
	Well, I know somebody who will have something to say.
	He is our in-house cynic, Mr. G, hiding behind that TV screen over there being pointed at by Eric.
	Hello!
	First things first, you always have a very good sense of what's really happening.
	Did you expect this news of 11 minutes ago?
	No, I did not expect that at all.
	I did not think there was any way they were going to let him buy Twitter.
	Are you going to enjoy the left melting down like they've never melted down before?
	We'll see, because I'm not exactly sure what this is all about.
	So, you don't trust Elon, or you think he can't turn Twitter around?
	No, I'm not saying he's an anti-free speech guy, I'm not saying he's a liberal, but nobody is going to spend $43 billion for free speech.
	That's not why he bought it.
	Especially for a company that's never made money.
	That's the other thing.
	He has some other angle.
	Part of it might be the free speech, but that's not the only reason that he did this.
	And that's all that people are talking about.
	So when he said, literally, at a conference, what was it?
	Six, seven days ago?
	Yeah, the TED Talk.
	The TED Talk.
	And he said, yeah, yeah, the money thing is irrelevant.
	This isn't a business decision.
	This is a principal decision.
	You think he's blowing smoke?
	Absolutely.
	I really wish I knew what the motive is, but there's some other motive there.
	Free speech might be part of it, I hope it is, but that's not the main reason that he's buying Twitter.
	So, it's some other ulterior motive.
	He has been saying free speech is important, but there's something else going on.
	If anybody can find out for us what it is, then I think it's going to be Mr. G. That is the team.
	Our vast, huge team has given you their opinion.
	NPR has 36 people to produce one, I'm not joking, one hour of radio every morning, including, and again, not a joke, as Biden would say, look it up, including a chef, yeah, a chef for the staff of a, yeah, I know, John, where is our chef?
	I know, where is our chef?
	That is the question.
	Salem, if you're listening out there, David, where is our chef?
	I mean, gotta be healthy, because you see, I've lost 22 pounds already on this PhD weight loss program, so it's gotta be healthy, low carbs, okay?
	High protein, nothing with sugar in it, but a chef could be just the right thing at least once a week.
	How about once a week just to celebrate news like this one?
	Elon does have some disturbing connections to China in terms of business and what he's doing there, but dropping a cool, what is it, 40, 50, who knows what the final deal was, 60 billion dollars.
	To buy this, it's got to be more than that because that was just 10%.
	What is it?
	400 billion?
	Whoa.
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	Next, Devin Nunes here on America First.
	Which is the official Elon Musk on Instagram? - Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, maybe he doesn't Yeah, okay Okay, cool.
	All right, let's have a look.
	Elon Musk buys Twitter.
	Okay.
	Can you play me Cup 4?
	One of the things I've found out as the President of the United States, I get to spend a lot of that money.
	I get to the side where, no I'm not joking, and we're going to completely, but before, we're going to start the process where every vehicle in the United States military, every vehicle, is going to be climate friendly.
	Every vehicle.
	I mean it.
	It's going to be billions of dollars.
	Show off his ball patch.
	All right.
	We've got to post that.
	Hang on a second. - Thank you.
	All right.
	I want to come in with... No, I'll tee it up after Israel.
	Am I doing Israel now?
	Yeah.
	I'm gonna do seven right after Israel before we go to Devon.
	And then... Cut ten please.
	Uh, this only strengthens her with her base.
	She will play the victim, uh, and she will end up on top because they will, uh, they will dismiss this case.
	And so I think we ought to be very, very careful about, uh, you know.
	But if Brian Stelter doesn't like you, she's like, why does he sit like this?
	Cause you ever notice he sits like this.
	Douglas, Douglas Murray has a book out.
	It's called the war on the West and it's terrible.
	The War on the West, is that really what's going on?
	One of my favorite moments was him with Barry Weiss.
	How has the world gone crazy?
	And she just rattles off one after another after another.
	When you say silence is violence, when actual violence is violence, the world has gone crazy.
	The world's gone mad.
	Well, I feel good about the French election, number one.
	Number two, I tried to talk to him last night.
	We've spoken to staff, but he was at the Eiffel Tower having a good time.
	Jeff, are you there? - Yeah.
	Can you give me, I think it's on my Twitter feed, it is on my Twitter feed, the moment on Friday where the prosecutor in the trial with MTG said the 1776 is code for white supremacy, which is sentenced in the state's field.
	Judge Mark.
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	Okay, the president gave a superlative.
	He's, if it's possible, he's getting better and better.
	Superb speech at the weekend in Ohio.
	He had just, of course, endorsed for the Senate J.D.
	Vance out of Ohio.
	This is what he had to say about his social media platform, Truth Social, which we have to discuss given the breaking news about Twitter.
	Play cut.
	But Truth Social phone users can download the app today and get their voices back.
	And it's open and ready to go and go out and use it and have fun with it.
	And non-iPhone users are coming very, very soon to make Truth Social a free speech alternative to big tech platforms.
	Our team is working around the clock.
	And has recently enabled every single person on the wait list to join the platform.
	A lot of people are on the wait list.
	Now you can join.
	That's big news.
	We knew that lots of people, tens of thousands of people, not over-subscription, just popularity oversight that believes in the First Amendment had applied, were waiting.
	I managed to help a few people.
	I just found out this morning Mr. G was waiting and he didn't tell me, but even he has been accepted.
	But what happens now?
	This was the alternative to Twitter.
	It was because the left said, well, if you don't like it, if you believe that you're being censored, if you think the algorithms somehow shadow ban you, we don't need belief.
	After the election, a man who had garnered 12 million more votes than he had four years previously, a man who was still, still in the Oval Office as the Commander-in-Chief, as the President of the United States, he was unpersoned.
	Like a character in 1984 dropped into Winston's memory hole.
	Why?
	He hadn't committed a crime.
	He was accused of inciting violence, which he never did.
	If he had, he would have had to answer for that in a dock, in a court of law.
	But because he was the president, because he was so successful, Because he is a conservative.
	That's why Truth Social was created.
	And we are delighted on this day of all days, the perfect guest to have with us, former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, a patriot, a true, true, true American.
	He is the CEO of President Trump's new platform, Truth Social.
	Devin Nunes, welcome back to America First.
	Seabass, it's great to be with you, I think.
	And this is my first time in this new role, I believe.
	Or second time, maybe.
	I think second time.
	I think you were very fresh.
	I think we had you on just after the announcement.
	And now we've got a big breaking news day.
	So, first things first, how's it going on True Social?
	We played the president's clip from Saturday.
	that the waiting list has been decimated.
	We're going to have your former chief investigator, Cash Patel, on.
	He says it is functioning in such a way that's incomparable for conservatives.
	Just the re-engagement on true social.
	Talk to us about how the platform's functioning.
	Well, I think everybody sees it, including you, Sebastian, that if you're on Twitter or Instagram, you're just getting more interaction on truth already.
	Yes.
	And remember, we had a beta test that only ended four days ago when we moved over to the rumble architecture, fully architectured cloud cannot be canceled by any tech tyrants.
	So we're into day five of this.
	And we continue to just add people day by day by day, and we're only on Apple.
	So what does that mean?
	It means a few things, but most importantly, it shows that number one, we have been shadowbanned and censored by these other platforms.
	And two, I think it also shows these platforms don't have as many actual humans and actual people as they claim to have had.
	Because even if you did all the censoring and all the shadowbanning, it's impossible that nearly everybody that has come over to truth That still has a Twitter account or an Instagram account.
	How are they getting so much engagement on such a platform like ours?
	That's just beginning.
	So it's inspiring.
	It's great.
	People are coming in droves.
	We want to, you know, we want to invite people, you know, Apple App Store, it's up.
	You can get it on your iPhone.
	And I know what the next question people are going to ask is, well, when can we get it on other devices?
	And we, my answer is, look, we have to build this block by block.
	We're beta testing now for web application that you could pull from any other device.
	But that's going to take us, uh, you know, it's going to take us, you know, two weeks to a month in order to get that fully launched to the public.
	So, but this is what we have to do.
	And I hope people understand.
	We can't rely on any big tech company.
	We're not going to, and we're going to do this in our own time.
	And I would tell you, if you have an iPhone right now, get on the App Store, download it.
	We'd love to have you.
	And I saw you posted something last night, and I think you had like 3,000 or 4,000 people engage with you last night, Dr. Gorka.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So I love being on Truth Social.
	I have to remind myself, hey guys, come on, don't just post it on the established, censorious platforms.
	You've got to go to Truth Social as well.
	I think we're breaking news here in front of 3 million listeners.
	He said two to four weeks until you can get it on other platforms.
	Will you explain to us, we've got you for two segments, but let's use this one to explain what's different about Truth Social.
	If you had to compare it to this thing called Twitter, which God bless Elon Musk for doing what he's doing, but it's a cesspit.
	I mean truly a cesspit.
	It is politically motivated.
	It's censorious.
	What's different?
	What is the philosophy as CEO?
	What is the philosophy of Truth Social?
	Well, it's a very good question because the one thing we're trying not to be, we're not Twitter.
	Twitter is a global PR wire for celebs and Hollywood people and political hacks, corporations to put press releases out on.
	We're building a community and we're actually looking at what's the best of Twitter, what's the best of Instagram, and ultimately what's the best of Facebook And we're putting it onto one app, and we're building a community of people where we're not gonna censor them.
	So it's not only conservatives.
	We have a few liberals on there right now.
	But we're gonna be open to everyone, and it's about social networking.
	So Twitter is a PR wire.
	Instagram is a place, as you know, it doesn't let content creators actually go to their site, where you can post something on Instagram, like a video, but Instagram then owns it, and they try to keep the eyeballs there.
	And then, of course, we know what Facebook ultimately is.
	Is a platform that, you know, is for friends and family.
	And using your data, selling your data.
	He is the CEO of Truth Social.
	He's just Devin, at Devin Nunes on Truth Social.
	Quarter of a million followers.
	I'm a little bit jelly.
	Follow him, but he's right.
	Twitter is a PR line.
	Maybe that'll change, but in the meantime, we're going to stick with President Trump with Devin Nunes back here on America First.
	Stay on this channel.
	Yes.
	All right.
	All right, mics are still live on the rumble feed in the break, Devin.
	OK, roger that.
	That's exciting.
	So the other platforms are imminent.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We just have to build on, you know, we probably don't have to talk about this any longer, but I guess for the people still listening on Rumble, they can hear this.
	And, you know, we can't use any of these big tech companies, right?
	So we have to make sure that we don't get attacked, we don't get shut down, we don't get canceled.
	So it just takes, we can't get in a hurry.
	I know everybody wants to be on the platform, but look, we promised we were going to do it right.
	And we came out, we did it right.
	Everybody's off the wait list.
	When did you... What was the date?
	Because it's barely been around.
	What was the official launch date?
	Well, we didn't open the new cloud, the Rumble cloud.
	That opened on... God, what was it?
	Last Thursday.
	And we didn't really say much.
	The Beta 1 launch, what was that?
	February or March?
	When was that?
	Well, we started initial data around that.
	We started basically adding the original people were around the first week in February.
	And then we opened up for people to preorder download the app on the 21st.
	And then we slowly were letting people in for the last as we as we continue to build out the platform.
	Then we built the rumble cloud rumble I think I joined in February and I've already got 45,000 follows.
	It's crazy.
	Yeah.
	And if you, you know, if you, if you post more and more little, you know, you start to post original content.
	I think that's what our community likes to see is original content.
	You'll just get more and more followers.
	It's amazing.
	Some of the people.
	That didn't have very many followers on Twitter or Instagram, and they're crushing it on this platform.
	That's where you see the difference.
	That's when you realize what shadowbanning really is.
	That's the easiest way to explain and to prove shadowbanning.
	Oh yeah.
	And also, we should probably talk about this when we get back live, is even on Instagram, people have more followers on Instagram than they have more followers on Truth than they have on Instagram.
	And, you know, Twitter's just a sewer pit.
	I mean, they don't have, they have a lot of bots.
	Instagram has real people.
	The remarkable thing is that the deal is $43 billion.
	And you think about the fact that this is for a platform that doesn't even really make money.
	Right.
	I mean, he's going to be, I mean, look, he has the money.
	And we're glad that he did it.
	I mean, if we're going to have a global PR wire, we might as well have one that's better than what it is.
	It's a disaster now.
	That's why I've said, I mean, both myself and the president said positive things about it.
	Right.
	No, but the fact that it doesn't make money is insane.
	All right.
	Standby.
	30 seconds.
	OK.
	Yes.
	Rumble listeners got a little preview.
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	The perfect guest given the breaking news.
	He is the CEO of Truth Social, President Trump's social media platform.
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	We are back with Devin Nunes.
	Congressman Nunes, Devin, if I may, what is the long-term answer?
	Because I know it's a little bit of an oversimplification, But there seems to be the idea that we put up with the cesspit, with the selling of us, because that's what Facebook does.
	Facebook sells us as a commodity to advertisers.
	Twitter is a cesspit, as you call it, a PR line for political hacks.
	Instagram is not much different.
	The left said, well, if you don't like it, go off and build your own alternative.
	Well, guess what?
	You and the president did that.
	Rumble, Chris at Rumble did that.
	Is there a danger of creating two alternative universes?
	Or is the idea that one of them believes in free speech and the other ones will dwindle whether or not Elon Musk is successful?
	Well, it's important to understand how did we get to this point?
	Yeah.
	And I have to keep making this argument over and over again, and it seems like everyone should understand it.
	Donald Trump has plenty of companies.
	He didn't need any more companies.
	I had a perfectly good role, leadership position in Congress.
	I liked what I was doing, representing people in California and San Joaquin Valley.
	So how do we end up here?
	We ended up here because They censored people like me, shadow banned people, kicked off millions of Americans, censored millions of Americans, and banned the President of the United States from every single social media company, including censoring things during an election that by all accounts changed the results of an election, and now we have a country in crisis because of what's happened.
	So we got here not because President Trump wanted to do this or I wanted to do this.
	We got here because we had no choice.
	Propaganda is poisoning the people in this country.
	So we set to build a very simple system.
	One that can't be canceled by these tech oligarchs for the ages.
	And that's the combination of using the RumbleCloud along with what we're doing.
	And you talk about algorithms, I think it's important for people to know.
	Every one of those companies that I just mentioned, they use algorithms to feed you what they want to feed you.
	Yeah.
	What we're doing is we just go in chronological order.
	We have no algorithms.
	So if Sebastian, you post at 3 p.m.
	and I post at 3.05, And somebody else poses at 310, boom, boom, boom.
	That's the order in the feed.
	Now, I think people that are on True Social need to understand that, too.
	It's important not to, you know, over time, you don't want to have too many people that you're following because, you know, if not, you won't see what some of us posted because, you know, after an hour or two, the feed gets too long.
	But, you know, that's in the future.
	Some of the things that we'll be creating will be things like lists and things of that nature so you can begin to build out the people that you want to follow and separate them out.
	But I think that's the real key.
	That's the real key is no algorithms.
	That's what people want.
	We're here because we had no choice.
	We wanted to give the American people their voice back.
	And that's what we're doing.
	I love this analogy you've given, that it's like a child in a high chair or an animal in a cage.
	On Twitter, you are being spoon-fed only what they wish you to see, and that's not the case on Truth Social.
	Guys, if you're on Apple, get it today.
	In two weeks, three weeks, you'll get it for the other platforms.
	Last 30 seconds we've got with you, Devon.
	Disney, the wokification isn't just on social media.
	When you look at what big corporations are doing, do you think the tide is turning with ExxonMobil finally saying, no, the rainbow flag is not something we're going to get involved in.
	We are a company about serving our customers.
	Do you feel good about the future when it comes to free markets in America?
	Well, look, I think it's going to be a fight and it's going to be a struggle.
	I think what you saw today With Elon Musk buying Twitter, that's a step in the right direction, right?
	Because at least it's somebody who wants to get in there, expose the algorithms, expose the abuse, expose the fake bots.
	But we have a long way to go because Disney only got there because you had the combination of fake news and then the social media companies funneling this propaganda into the American people because normal Americans would never accept this.
	And we only got to this position Because of the propaganda that ultimately led Disney to go woke, and now you're starting to see they're losing stock value, things like that are happening.
	But it happens when you get real information out to real people, is how you save this country.
	And you look at what's happening to Netflix as well.
	Something is happening, and it's because of people like you.
	God bless you.
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	What did I say there?
	.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	How to finally fix the deep state.
	Solomon.
	Amen. - No.
	No, no, but he's not a guest.
	Oh, I didn't see.
	I missed that completely.
	Okay.
	Yeah, come in with his audio.
	All right, let me see his.
	What?
	No, they will.
	You know that.
	They will.
	they'll try to right um Yeah, that's the other thing.
	Will you, will you, Jeff, will you tell all these callers we're happy to call them back if they can't wait?
	Thank you.
	Thanks.
	Who cares?
	It's Franz.
	You're welcome.
	Yeah, and who's the Trump?
	Marine Le Pen?
	Are you kidding me?
	Right, who's the Biden?
	Right, right, right.
	Right, right. right.
	Right, right.
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	Everybody who's on the line, Linda, Mike, Sid, Dan, Judy, Jeff is prepared to take your number and call you back because guess who's on the line?
	The man himself.
	Crickless John Solomon of JustinNews.com.
	Welcome back, John.
	Guilty as charged.
	Good to be with you.
	What a great day to have you on.
	Every day is a great day with John Solomon, but to analyze the breaking news, not just from Durham, new indictments that you are the expert on, but this news of, what was it, 37 minutes ago.
	To be honest with you, I don't get everything right only 99.9% of the time.
	Is that what Rush used to say?
	God bless you, Rush.
	I didn't think this was going to happen, at least not happen this quickly, accepting the $43 billion deal.
	You are a media maven.
	This is social media, but isn't this really dropping a massive kitty cat amongst the pigeons of social media?
	Yeah, listen, it's an unusual deal.
	I mean, listen, at the end of the day, Elon Musk has the money to do whatever he wants with Twitter.
	He can make it better.
	He can make it a vanity play.
	He can make it what it used to be.
	And we don't know what his intentions are, other than he says he wants to get rid of the censorship mentality there.
	So I take him at his word, because he usually delivers on what he says.
	So the idea that Twitter had to be bought in order to get it out of censorship is, in and of itself, stunning.
	How far we've evolved from two years ago when we used to think that free speech was okay.
	Now we've got Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, everybody out there saying, we've got to censor more, we've got to censor more.
	And Twitter was the main One of the main efforts to create censorship, now it's going to be taken off the table.
	That's going to have a tremendous blow to liberals who want to keep exercising their censorship.
	They're going to lose one of the main high-profile tools that that was done.
	Now, we don't know how the market's going to react, right?
	One of the things I do know, because I've been talking to his team today, President Trump has no intention of going back to Twitter.
	Trump Nation's not going back to Twitter.
	But, you know, we'll see.
	Do liberals leave it because they want more censorship?
	I don't know yet.
	Elon Musk is a brilliant businessman.
	We'll just have to wait and see what he does with the property.
	I mean, the guy's launched more satellites himself than all the rest of humanity in history.
	He's capable of doing something with it.
	We just don't know what it is yet.
	But that one sentence, John, in its classic solemn is just perfection.
	Will liberals leave Twitter for other platforms with more censorship?
	That's the insane world we find ourselves in.
	But let's pull the aperture larger for a second.
	I know, but let's pull the aperture a little bit larger with the loss of 200,000 subscribers for Netflix, this news about Twitter, and then CNN Plus spending $300 million to get, what, 18,000 subscribers.
	As somebody who's been in the business for decades, are we getting ready?
	Are these signs, John Solomon, of some kind of impending tectonic shift that will right the insanity of people not really doing journalism the way they should be or not providing content that is apolitical?
	Yeah, listen, I think we're at that reckoning moment.
	We've been talking about it coming.
	You could see it kind of over the horizon.
	And I think true social is one of many things that have kind of prompted Parler and Getter and others.
	For a while, the big tech titans had the whole battlefield, right?
	There was no other alternatives.
	Now there's six or seven alternatives.
	or different streaming opportunities.
	And now all of a sudden, those tech titans don't have nearly as much market might.
	And you're beginning to see what real mom, pop America, Main Street America can do.
	If you cancel your Netflix subscription, if you drop off of Twitter, if you tell Disney, I don't want my children watching your woke stuff, the value of those companies, the operations of those companies become immediately impacted.
	And that's the quickest way to get a woke corporation's attention, hit their bottom line.
	And I think everyday Americans are driving this.
	We could say journalism is going through a rethinking process.
	I'm not so sure my colleagues are really willing to reevaluate their bad behavior the last five or ten years.
	I do think the market itself is speaking.
	It's always what our founding fathers saw as a panacea to insanity.
	And I think right now the market corrections are driving this.
	Real everyday Americans saying, I'm walking with my feet, my eyeballs, my dollars.
	And if you don't like it, I'll just go somewhere else.
	All right.
	Talk to us about your main beat.
	We're talking about the Durham investigation with the author of Fallout, John Solomon.
	You've got to follow him.
	Jay Solomon reports.
	What are the latest?
	There's a flurriac of activity.
	What is the most significant for you?
	Yeah, listen, it's very clear that in this trial, John Durham is going to show that the Clinton campaign, along with its lawyers and its researchers and its tech executives, conspired together to dump a false story.
	And that's important, that they knew they had reason to believe what they were going to give the FBI, the news media, the CIA, was false.
	You're getting to see more and more signs of that in the new filing over the weekend.
	Saturday night he dropped a filing, and in that filing he goes on and talks about one of the researchers saying, There's no chance this is real.
	It's too insane to be real.
	They kind of knew that they were not only peddling a story, they were peddling a false story.
	And so this trial is going to be more than just the lie of Michael Sussman.
	It's going to be about that.
	And while that's going on, There's lots of new signs of ballot harvesting.
	Remember we talked earlier this year, Seb, that ballot harvesting was going to be the election integrity issue?
	Green Bay, Wisconsin, a brand new complaint today of ballot harvesting.
	It just occurred in the primary.
	And tonight, I'm going to put out in public the subpoenas that were just issued in Georgia.
	I got them under open records as well.
	You're going to be able to see the subpoenas that were issued in the ballot trafficking harvesting case In Georgia, one that could really rewrite the history of the Georgia 2020 election.
	Where can they see that?
	Is that on your show or on Just The News?
	We're going to do both.
	It'll be on justthenews.com and of course we'll have it on the show and then tomorrow night we'll expound on it with some great guests.
	But we're going to start by just showing people what's being sought, what's in the subpoenas, what's the potential evidence, who is that John Doe.
	We're going to put all that out there tonight.
	Just the facts, ma'am.
	That is his motto.
	Editor-in-chief and founder of JustTheNews.com, Jay Solomon reports.
	Thank you, John.
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	Good question.
	Well, the question is how many of them are just going to be insane, and so they leave, and then how many are the question is how many of them are just going to be insane, and so they leave, and then how many are No, no, no, no.
	I mean at the company.
	At the company.
	of the company.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Did you see what the president did in Delaware, Ohio at the weekend?
	Yeah?
	He actually mentioned Dinesh D'Souza's new movie.
	We are super excited.
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	Let's go to your calls.
	Thank you, everybody, for being so very, very patient.
	Line 1, Linda, Florida.
	Hi, Dr. Gorkas.
	So nice to talk to you again.
	I don't know how I can follow John Solomon with anything else that I wanted to say.
	I am loving it.
	I know.
	It's exciting.
	I couldn't believe it when I was preparing for the show today.
	I said, no, it can't be so quickly.
	Really?
	I know.
	But there again, Elon Musk has A lot of business dealings that he does in China.
	He does, and it's worrisome, and we've discussed it on my show here, on my Newsmax show with Alex Marlow.
	So, you know, it's exciting that he says he's doing it for First Amendment reasons, but we have to... What did President Reagan say?
	Trust, but verify.
	What do you think of that, Linda?
	I think that's wonderful.
	I am praying for the best.
	Yep, absolutely.
	Let's trust and verify.
	Thank you, Linda.
	Let's go to Mike, California, line 2.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I had a Twitter account where I got shadowbanned, so thousands of people who were following me to see my tweets were not actually seeing them, and my interactions went down to zero in no time at all, and then Twitter just suspended my account permanently.
	Something else I want to mention, very important, is that Twitter, as you know, they shut down Donald Trump's account claiming he was promoting violence and he violated their policy against violence, which was totally false.
	Yet Twitter, to this day, and many years ago they started doing this, they have been hosting, I've seen this with my own eyes, very violent rape and torture pornography photographs and videos that you could see without even logging into an account.
	Any child could go to twitter.com If you know what links to go to or how to search for them.
	Well, you don't have to look hard for content like that.
	The fact that they've got people like the leaders of Iran, they've got organizations on there that actually target America is reason enough.
	That's why somebody had to buy Twitter and clean it up.
	Will Elon Musk?
	Only time will tell.
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	me?
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	Just the first one.
	That's bullshit.
	Line one is bullshit, isn't it, Jeff?
	Mm-hmm.
	Oh, yeah.
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	Oh.
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	No, no, no, no, no.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hang on.
	Um, yeah, give me eight.
	Pewds No teacher should ever be allowed to teach transgender transgender to our children without parental consent.
	Isn't it amazing how that's become such a big subject?
	And who would even think that that would be a big subject?
	Save our kids!
	Yeah, nine.
	Thank you.
	Well, first of all, this woman is targeting LGBTQ folks.
	I mean, she brags about getting multiple teachers fired.
	you know, the entire goal of the account is to direct hate to trans and LGBTQ people.
	Yeah, um, start playing start playing me 15.
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	All right, dear friends.
	Welcome back.
	Welcome back.
	So many calls.
	We're going to get to all of your calls, but let's have a little bit of fun first.
	Let's talk about CNN.
	I think Joe Rogan's had enough with Mr. Potato Head.
	Cut 11.
	But if Brian Stelter doesn't like you, she's like, why does he sit like this?
	Because you ever notice, he sits like this.
	Douglas... Douglas Murray has a book out, it's called The War on the West, and it's terrible.
	The War on the West, is that really what's going on?
	One of my favorite moments was him with Barry Weiss, where Barry Weiss... How has the world gone crazy?
	And she just rattles off one after another after another.
	That's right.
	Yeah, when you say silence is violence, when actual violence is violence, the world has gone crazy.
	The world's gone mad.
	And she just rattled all these off.
	We're speaking on this day where CNN... Yeah, CNN Plus went under.
	They spent $300 million, they got 10,000 subscribers.
	Imagine the hubris of thinking that something that people don't want for free, that you're going to charge money for it.
	That's a pretty good impression, Joe, of Little Potato Head, and the point is a very well-made point.
	How stupid is CNN, and why haven't I heard the phrase CNN minus before?
	Of course, that's Douglas Murray.
	We need to get him back on the show.
	Very smart individual.
	But first, we have to get you on the show.
	Thanks for waiting so very, very patiently.
	Sylvia, Louisville, Kentucky!
	Line two.
	Hi there, Dr. Gurka.
	I just want to say that I'm speaking of 2,000 mules, that I am getting really sick and tired of the fake news talking about unsubstantiated election fraud at the Georgia governor debate between Kemp And they said, and David Perdue repeatedly mentioned the unsubstantiated election fraud.
	What do these people need?
	But not only that, the sleight of hand, Sylvia, when they say, well, those dozens, those scores of cases from Rudy Giuliani and everybody else, they were thrown out, they were dismissed No, they weren't dismissed.
	They weren't heard by the judges because the judges were cowards.
	It's a very small, it's a nuanced difference.
	To say dismissed, vice not permitted to be heard, but that's the power of the fake news.
	Thank you for your patience, Sylvia, and just wait until the premiere of 2,000 Mules.
	Everything, God willing, will change.
	Sid, Los Angeles, thank you for your patience, Sid.
	Line three.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I take him as a good businessman, but I hope that he ensures The content of Twitter, all the emails, all the algorithms will prevent any sabotage, you know, when Bush became president.
	The people leaving the White House sabotaged all the computers.
	Well, hang on, hang on, hang on, Sid.
	Taking the letter W off a keyboard isn't really sabotage.
	You have to wait until we walked into the White House to see real sabotage.
	But your point is well taken.
	I don't know if you hear the show in the break.
	Here's my big question, Sid.
	For this current deal, already in just, what is it, the last 90 minutes, the price of Twitter stock has increased 7%.
	On the news that Elon Musk's deal has been accepted, what are the people who hate him, all those people in Palo Alto, at Twitter, Sid, are they going to leave in droves because they're snowflakes or are they going to stay there to sabotage him?
	That's my question.
	I think your question is very similar.
	I agree with you.
	I just don't trust these guys.
	No.
	They are ideologically driven.
	He is, of course, a very, very good businessman, but these people are ideologues.
	Thank you.
	Great call, and thank you for your patience.
	Let's go to Dan, Line 4, Minnesota.
	Thank you for holding.
	Yeah, hi, Dr. Gorka.
	In my opinion, hardcore Democrat leftist leaders play so darn dirty to push their leftist power agenda that they make pigs rolling in their own Missy Slopp looked just like hospital employees scrubbing down an operating room in preparation for major surgery.
	So my point is that I hope Elon Musk and his family have 24-7, 365-day security, as good as who guards the president, because I don't put anything against these SOBs.
	Well, look, they're crazy.
	We're going to play some cuts from Taylor Lorenz at the Washington Post later.
	But these are people.
	Forget, you know, no-named individuals inside the Twitter machine.
	These are public reporters who are doxing, who are revealing their home addresses of individuals they politically disagree with.
	For what purpose, Dan?
	Why?
	With what justification?
	Because this orthodox Jewish woman who is actually going to be on our show on Wednesday.
	We're going to open the show with libs of TikTok guys.
	Super excited.
	These people did what?
	They showed the truth of what the liberal crazies were saying on platforms like TikTok.
	That is reason enough for you to be targeted.
	We know from the stories about Tucker Carlson's house and everything else that these people think violence Against those you politically disagree with is justified.
	So I agree.
	I'm sure he's well protected.
	And having lived in South Africa, he knows what living in danger truly means.
	But your point is well taken.
	God bless you.
	Waiting the longest.
	Line five.
	It's our good friend in Brooklyn.
	Happy Monday, Judy!
	Are you excited or do you not trust Elon Musk?
	Okay.
	You make me laugh.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	So here's what I want.
	I was thinking about it.
	I thought to myself, look, this is me personally.
	I think it's a huge honor to have President Trump grace or participate at Twitter again.
	That's how I feel.
	And I would like to see Twitter, I would like Twitter to apologize to President Trump and royally invite him back.
	Until that happens, Let them just wait and see, okay?
	Because I'm very angry at Twitter.
	Here's my argument.
	Tell me what you think of this because we discussed this in our production meeting before the show.
	President Trump can't go back right now for a couple of reasons.
	Number one, nothing's been fixed at Twitter.
	Even if he buys it tonight at midnight, nothing's been fixed.
	Number two, they told him, you need to disappear.
	They cancelled him.
	Go and build something if you don't like it.
	He did.
	So he's got a huge investment.
	He's got backers.
	He's got Truth Social.
	Devin Nunes, who was on the show, is running it for him.
	So, you know, he's got this thing he has to build.
	So here's my scenario, Judy.
	Tell me what you think.
	You've got to wait at least a year.
	Elon Musk is going to prove that there's no more censorship happening with conservatives, cleans out the algorithms, stops the censorship, stops the political identity, and then President Trump only comes back, whilst truth social is still out there, only comes back if they reinstate him with all 93 or 94 million followers.
	That's what I think should happen.
	What do you think?
	Oh, 100%!
	And you should know, you took it out of me.
	Like I was telling Jeff, I don't know what Elon Musk is up to.
	Let's see and wait to see what he's really up to, you know?
	And like you said, I agree with you 1000%, Dr. Korkov.
	Of course you do.
	You're Judy.
	You're a sagacious woman.
	God bless you.
	Stay on the line.
	I think we need to give Judy something for waiting so long.
	Ask her if she's got a Zelinsky t-shirt or if there's something else she would like.
	Maybe something Let's Go Brandon from the website.
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	Okay, let's go to line one.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hello, Seb?
	Yes.
	Thank you for your time.
	Question, why is Trump endorsing this J.D.
	Vance?
	He's enraging all of his followers here in Ohio.
	He doesn't even mention the governor's race during his rally.
	So hang on, what is this evidence that everybody who supports President Trump in Ohio doesn't like J.D.
	Vance?
	I'd like some evidence, please.
	Did I say everybody?
	I said... You did.
	Many of his followers... You said everyone.
	You said everyone in Ohio.
	Listen, Bob France even today on his shows is ranting about... Who?
	Trump and his... Bob France, he's hosted your show before, you should know him.
	Bob France?
	Jeff, Mr. G, who's Bob Franz?
	He's on 1420 here.
	Where's his show?
	He's in Cleveland.
	And what was Bob Franz's argument?
	What was his argument against J.D.
	Vance?
	Why did Trump's people tell everybody to turn over their shirts during the rally?
	Patrick, stay on message.
	Why did he not like J.D.
	Vance?
	What's Bob's argument?
	He's not a... First of all, in 2016, he said he'd have to hold his nose... Yeah, that's 2016.
	Seriously, did you not ever make a mistake?
	Congratulations, Patrick, for being the only man who's never made a mistake.
	You need to go and work on the Josh Mandel campaign.
	Oh, sorry, you probably do.
	Guys, listen to what JD has said in the last five years, guys.
	Wake up!
	The End
	The End Is he one of Teal's guys?
	No, JD is.
	He's a former state treasurer, so he's a known statewide name.
	Isn't he quite young?
	He's pretty young, yeah.
	I think he's in his late 30s or something, but he's run before.
	He was the nominee in 2012.
	When, uh, Brown beat him, and then he ran again in 2018 for a rematch with Brown, and then dropped out before the primary even happened.
	I can't stand him, because he has a lot of surrogates on Twitter that I follow, and the only thing the last six months they do is talk about Vance's never-trumpers.
	That's it.
	Nothing else.
	Nothing else.
	Nothing policy-wise.
	Nothing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's literally the only thing he's running on.
	The only one.
	Geoff, what do you think of the new, um, logo from Randy?
	I haven't seen the new one yet.
	Um, the one that he just sent?
	Yeah.
	Let me check it out.
	And Mandel also likes to challenge old men nearly twice his age to fights at debates, so that's cool.
	Sounds like Biden.
	Yeah, he's a weird, weird duck.
	Remember when Biden did that?
	That was the strangest thing.
	Challenge an old guy to a push-up contest.
	I don't know.
	I can't picture it not on a shirt, you know what I mean?
	Because of what?
	What's wrong with it?
	I'm not sure about the letters.
	All right, will you tell him what you think?
	Yeah.
	Oh, there's no guests this... Yeah, no, not until... Two minutes.
	...Donald's.
	We have lots of cuts, though, thankfully.
	Yep.
	And we've got pod here.
	That's the only thing.
	We are flying free.
	When is that Ohio primaries late in it, Eric?
	May 3rd.
	Yeah, no, it's coming up right here soon.
	The Arizona one is late.
	That's not until August, like, 2nd, I think.
	That's quite a ways away, but yeah.
	May 3rd.
	And then the Pennsylvania primary is May 17th.
	Oh, and speaking, actually, of... I know you talked about it before, but you should probably get Cordy Williams back on.
	The California GOP.
	They just had their convention and issued their endorsements, and they endorsed the other guy in that primary.
	Not Cordy.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	There's a guy named... Jennifer knows him.
	His name is Mark Moiser.
	He's an attorney.
	He ran for Attorney General in 2019.
	He tried to tie himself to stop the steal for a while, but didn't really do anything with it, so.
	But I know he's in deep with the party leadership, so I'm not surprised they picked him.
	One minute.
	Yeah.
	Will you do that, Geoff?
	Yeah.
	One segment.
	Alright.
	And I'll show you how we're playing audio off this other computer.
	50 seconds.
	Come.
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	All right, before we go back to your calls, I joked about this.
	I joked about this literally last week.
	And what happens?
	He actually did it.
	I don't know why his back was turned to the podium.
	Well, I do.
	He's senile.
	But Joe Biden, with his big, bald patch facing the camera, gave this prediction of what's going to happen to the American military and just how much he is a captive to the crazy environmentalists like Greta.
	Cut for.
	One of the things I found out as the President of the United States, I get to spend a lot of that money.
	I get to the side where, no I'm not joking, and we're going to completely, but before, we're going to start the process where every vehicle in the United States military, every vehicle, is going to be climate friendly.
	Every vehicle.
	No, I mean it.
	It's going to be billions of dollars.
	He's truly a moron.
	He's not just senile, he is a clinical imbecile.
	Every vehicle in the military is going to be environmentally friendly.
	There is one way to do that, Slow Joe.
	It's if they're all nuclear.
	Because that, of course, is the cleanest form of energy.
	But we haven't quite made a nuclear engine to fit into a fighter plane or a tank.
	And here's how much of a moron you are.
	If you take the average EV, a Tesla or even a smaller one like a Prius, they have a range of what?
	Three, four hundred miles maybe?
	And the vehicle is basically one big battery.
	That is a vehicle that's a ton, maybe a ton and a half.
	The main battle tank is 60 tons.
	Because it's armor.
	It's ammunition.
	It's a gun.
	The idea that you're going to get a sixth of the range.
	Oh, that's okay.
	Your tank can go 40 miles.
	On the best technology.
	And then you just tell the enemy, uh, time for tea.
	Sorry, we'll begin the war after we recharge.
	Hang on!
	Get the windmills out!
	It's like President Trump at his rallies.
	Sorry Marjorie, can't watch the TV tonight because the wind's not blowing.
	And I know one thing.
	The Chinese The Russians, the Iranians and North Koreans, when they hear that, they just rub their hands together gleefully because they know America is run by idiots and ideological hostages to their own ideology.
	Wind-powered tanks.
	Right, Slow Joe?
	Let's go to your calls.
	Joe, Illinois, line two.
	Dr. G, you crack me up.
	I love it.
	Thank you.
	We try, we try, we try.
	Yeah, I know.
	So Elon Musk is a libertarian.
	Can I just jump in there?
	I think Elon Musk was a geek and a successful businessman who has, in the last year, year and a half, started to discover some kind of political identity, Joe.
	And I'm not sure it's fully formed.
	and it is leaning towards libertarian.
	But I think it's still, I think his political identity is still, it's clay that's being shaped.
	But carry on. - It's Bill Gates that's shoring Tesla stock, you know?
	So we have a clash of the titans, you know? - But did you see the tweet?
	Did you see the tweet of Elon with Bill Gates as the pregnant man? - God is our father, that's all I can say.
	It had like 40 million likes in a day!
	It was incredible.
	Alright, so what do you think of this deal, Joe?
	Do you trust him or do you think he's just got some kind of other reason?
	I think he has the best interest of the United States.
	You know, our country was built upon free speech.
	It was built on our founding fathers, you know, that, my God, they must be rolling over in their grave right now over this nonsense and mayhem.
	All right, well you think he's in it for the right reasons.
	All right, we shall see.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Robert, California, line four.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	How are you?
	Hey, I love Elon Musk.
	I'm a libertarian myself.
	I supported the Canadian truckers, etc.
	Why do you like Elon?
	Tell me why you like him.
	I support free speech and I support individual liberties.
	But I am skeptical of a system where one capitalist can open and close the taps of free speech.
	I think that's a fundamental right.
	I think the Internet is a public forum and a public square, and it should be legislated that that's an area of free speech.
	Well, this is definitely one of the things that has been floated out there, that if you look at the significance of these platforms, that they're basically monopolies or at least cartels with one or two companies.
	Well, Alphabet owning Google and YouTube and then Zuckerberg owning Facebook.
	Instagram, that these are monopolies that should be broken up like the oil companies a hundred years ago, or simply like, you know, I've got these phones here, these traditional phones here.
	It is the same as the Marbell company.
	This is a public utility and should be treated as such and shouldn't be treated as a private fiefdom of individuals who get to do whatever they want with those who politically disagree with them.
	So we shall see, again, Excited at the news, but like the Gipper told us with the Soviet Union, trust but verify, which is a very sagacious, very prudent posture to have with anything of great, great significance.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	We're going to be talking to Congressman Donalds and more of your calls here on the Salem News Channel.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Can you kill my mic?
	Got it.
	What?
	Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Um.
	No.
	Is Jeff there? - Yeah.
	Alright.
	You can block the lines.
	Thank you.
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	Whatever you're having fun with.
	Okay, good.
	That's what you go with.
	All right, well, let's do this one.
	Just great advice, superb advice.
	This is from Fox Business.
	ExxonMobil, you know, the big oil company, has banned Banned LGBTQ and Black Lives Matter flags from being displayed on their company flagpoles outside of their buildings.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Is that a sign of something happening?
	Is the woke corporatism finally being challenged?
	I'm impressed.
	We should find out if we can get somebody on record on the show.
	I'm going to read that again.
	Let's post this article, Eric.
	Exxon has banned LGBT and Black Lives Matter flags from their buildings.
	Why?
	Because it's political!
	And it's also anarchic, and it's also against the values of our civilization.
	More important in breaking news, this is the New York Post, our buddy Miranda Devine and John Levine.
	We now have it.
	Remember when Biden said, I know nothing about my son's business dealings?
	Nothing, nothing, nothing about Hunter Biden.
	We now have White House visitor logs from the Obama administration that show Eric Sherwin, who was Hunter Biden's partner at Rosemont Seneca, the investment company that got that sweet $1.3 billion deal with Communist China, That man, Hunter Biden's business partner, visited Biden in the White House 19 times.
	Now, I know, you know, he's senile, but forgetting 19 visits and saying you knew nothing about Hunter Biden's dealings?
	Come on, John Durham, wake up.
	At the same time, this is also the New York Post, Wikipedia has deleted the entry for Rosamond Seneca.
	Because it's not notable.
	So the business company that Hunter Biden used to siphon billions, that's not important anymore.
	Let's listen to President Trump.
	We've got to tee up the next story, which is about what is happening with the teachers unions, Randy Weingartner.
	This is President Trump at his rally talking the truth about what's really behind the DeSantis bill.
	Cut it.
	Play cut.
	No teacher should ever be allowed to teach transgender transgender to our children without parental consent.
	Isn't it amazing how that's become such a big subject?
	And who would even think that that would be a big subject?
	Save our kids!
	The chant at the end.
	Save our kids.
	Because that's what it's about.
	It's not about equity.
	It's not about diversity.
	It's about perversion.
	And it's about trying to sexualize our children.
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	Whose children are they?
	All right, I'm gonna tee up, before we go to the congressman, I'm gonna tee up cut 13, okay?
	Yes.
	And then.
	Thank you.
	Jeff.
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	Can you hear me?
	Jeff.
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	Alright, can you ask Cassio to post 4, 8 and 13?
	um four eight and thirteen all right you can you can get me to the cut you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you
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	The End
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	We have to let gay kids Everyone.
	Talk about their lived experience.
	That's part of how you build relationships.
	That's part of how you unite people.
	That's part of how you save a democracy.
	That's Randy Weingarten.
	She is the president of the American Federation of Teachers.
	Really weird.
	I went to the same school for 13 years.
	I had no idea what my teachers were, what sexual relations they had, whether they liked men, women, or potted plants.
	I didn't even know whether they were married or not because it wasn't relevant.
	I had to learn math.
	Latin, French, German, physics, biology, chemistry.
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	So much to discuss.
	A breaking news Monday.
	Delighted to have a perfect guest with us right now.
	He is the Congressman for the 19th District in Florida.
	It says in his bio on Twitter, liberty-loving, pro-Trump, pro-Second Amendment, pro-life, Congressman Byron Donalds.
	Welcome back to America First.
	It's good to be back with you, Sebastian.
	Thanks for having me.
	All right, we've got to talk what's going on in the schools, the Disney law that the governor has brought.
	But first, got to get your reaction.
	The news of the day, just as we started the show, Elon Musk, $43 billion.
	Are you excited?
	Is this good news?
	Or is it too early to say that this is pro-freedom of speech?
	No, I think it's good news.
	I mean, first of all, I'm glad that the Twitter board didn't go down the complete line of lunacy.
	And forget their fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders, which is take the best deal on the table.
	And this was by far the best deal they were ever going to get.
	And so I'm glad that that did not happen, because that causes serious problems just in our capitalist system just past the issues we have with Twitter.
	So I think that it's a good thing overall that sanity somehow still reigns in some of the crazy boardrooms in America.
	The second thing is, I think that opening up Twitter is going to be a great thing.
	I've been giving speeches for about six months to different groups all over the country, and the one thing that I always tell people I'm concerned about is you have to have a robust debate of ideas in a country like ours.
	It can't just be one side's truth or one person's truth.
	There has to be disagreement.
	Disagreement's okay.
	You know, that's fine.
	That's what makes our society great, because it's through disagreement that you actually forge some of the best ideas to move a society going forward.
	But on that issue, that it can't just be one view, and look, in the last six months he's been getting increasingly more political like other big influencers like Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan.
	It is clear that Musk is leaning towards, maybe not conservative, but clearly libertarian.
	Are you worried that there's just a handful of platforms like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and Twitter, and now we've got one guy who owns one of the biggest?
	Is that of concern to you, irrespective of his potential politics?
	It concerns me, but I'd rather go down this road than continue the way we were going with Twitter.
	I think that what would be very helpful is if you had more platforms, more ability to access, You know, that's where you whether you want to talk about about getter or truth social or whatever the case might be, you know, having more platforms is a great thing for people because people need to have multiple sources to get information and multiple platforms to speak from.
	So I think we're going to move into a space, my hope is, where there are more platforms, not less.
	And that actually leads to a better discussion and a more robust debate in the United States.
	It's the American Way.
	It is free markets and choice.
	He's Byron Donalds on Twitter.
	Official account RepDonaldsPress and the website is ByronDonalds.com.
	Okay, let's go to your state.
	A lot of misinformation, not just regarding the bill that protects children from being sexualized or hearing sexualized content from their teachers, but also about the recent decision with regards to this peculiar self-controlling state that within a state that Disney had.
	Where do you stand on this?
	Some conservatives say this is an assault of retribution on the First Amendment.
	Others say, hang on, why does Disney get special preferential treatment for 60 years?
	I'd like to get you on record for where you stand on this issue.
	Well, look, I mean, first, you said the key part first.
	Disney had this special exemption for 60 years.
	It was given to them at the time when they were building Disney World.
	They don't really need it anymore to run Disney World, but it just helps them be able to do all the maintenance without having to go deal with local governments.
	That's essentially what it allows them to do.
	Now, here's the real situation.
	The Disney board is not in Orlando.
	They're in Burbank, California.
	And so you had people who were out of state, who were trying to influence the politics of the state of Florida, and that's where the governor and the members of the legislature had had enough.
	It's one thing if you're going to talk about what Florida should be doing or not be doing with respect to public policy.
	It's another to say that now you're going to actively move to repeal legislation that the governor and the legislature feels is important to protect children.
	So, you know, if you go and involve yourself And somebody else's business that doesn't pertain to you, you'd typically find something that you were not looking for.
	And that's what happened to Disney.
	It actually caused the members to really start looking at all the different things that Disney has going on at the state level.
	And the members, and I'll tell you this, I talked to members, former colleagues of mine, the members were like, you know what?
	They don't need this taxing district anymore.
	Let's just go ahead and get rid of it.
	And that's what they did.
	Yeah, I think the first thing you said is the crucial one.
	This was an exemption in the 60s for when they were building it to make it easier.
	They're not building it 60 years later.
	That's the key point.
	30 seconds left with Congressman Donald's question.
	I ask all the politicians who come on the show who are pro-Trump, pro-MAGA, pro-America First.
	Who's winning in the war between the RINOs and America First?
	America First?
	It's not even close.
	I mean, listen, the RINOs had their time in the sun.
	They failed.
	It's time for a new way in the Republican Party.
	All right.
	I don't think we've had a clearer, shorter answer than that one.
	Makes me feel good.
	What a great day.
	Great news and great, great guests.
	Follow this man at Byron Donalds, RepDonaldsPress on Twitter and also ByronDonalds.com.
	Keep doing what you do, sir.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	Oh.
	Oh, can you play me cut three?
	What do you see as sort of the state of our planet right now when it comes to climate issues?
	You know, one can look at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which continues to issue these reports that say that we are at code red for humanity.
	Wow.
	Oh, nine.
	Well, first of all, this woman is targeting LGBTQ folks.
	I mean, she brags about getting multiple teachers fired.
	you know the entire goal of the account is to direct hate to trans and lgbtq people um 14.
	But also, what about 15, Jeff?
	Oh, you don't want your children taught in school about what gay is?
	I don't need to hear it.
	Because I could do the whole segment.
	All right, what about calls?
	Preferences?
	What do we have?
	Twitter needs an agreement with us about change.
	Rules.
	Musk.
	I'll do worse.
	You're right.
	Like Musk, I worry.
	America First Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	You just don't say!
	That's why this show is called America First.
	Straight back to your calls.
	Let's go to Helen in Ohio, line two.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	Of course.
	I just want to say, oh my gosh, I got to see my president in person in Delaware.
	It was awesome.
	It was a pretty, pretty hot day, wasn't it?
	Oh, it was.
	Yes.
	I got sunburned, but that's okay.
	Did you have a good place to see him from?
	Yes, I did.
	I got some great pictures and some video.
	It was awesome.
	And he just had the crowd totally fired up and JD Vance had them fired up.
	Mike Lindell had them fired up.
	I know.
	Everybody, watch the whole video.
	Newsmax was the only cable channel to show it.
	I commented on it just before the president arrived.
	We've got 30 seconds.
	What do you want to say about Elon Musk and Twitter, Helen?
	I think that he can't make any more of a mess of it than what it already is.
	I have high hopes that maybe, since he's a libertarian, that things will be better.
	I would love to see him bring President Trump back.
	Yeah.
	We'll just have to wait and see what he has in mind, but I'm glad he brought them out.
	After he fixed it.
	After Elon has to fix it first, then there has to be an open invitation to bring back President Trump with all 94 or 93 million followers.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give Helen a signed copy of Why We Fight.
	Let's return to the rally.
	This was the end of the rally.
	It was absolutely superb.
	Cut 15.
	Play cut.
	We will not bend.
	We will not break.
	We will not yield.
	We will never give in.
	We will never give up.
	We will never, ever back down, as long as we are confident and united.
	The tyrants we are fighting do not stand a chance of victory because we are Americans and Americans kneel to God and to God alone.
	So, my fellow citizens, this incredible journey we're on together has only just begun a It's only just begun.
	This is a movement like no other.
	It's only just begun.
	And it is time to start talking about greatness for our country, not other things that make no sense whatsoever.
	We want to start talking about our country and greatness again.
	We are one movement, one people, one family, and one glorious American nation.
	So with the help of everyone here today and citizens all across our land, we will make America powerful again.
	We will make America wealthy again.
	We will make America strong again.
	We will make America proud again.
	We will make America safe again.
	And we will make America great again.
	Thank you, Ohio.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Dear friends, welcome to America First one-on-one.
	It is an exciting time to be alive.
	It's an exciting time to be an American.
	Things are happening.
	I know, I know the senile old man in the White House is causing problems for all of us domestically and in the world, but his party Well, they've come to a crisis point.
	Here is a former Democrat state senator, a Latino, who really tells it how it is with regards to the Democrat Party and her ethnic community.
	My message is of extreme disappointment.
	I represented one of the most democratic Latino districts in California, East LA.
	And whether we are Cuban American in Florida, or Mexican American in South Texas, Nevada, or here in California, we are sending a very powerful message to the Democratic Party that enough is enough.
	Ya basta.
	We have choices.
	And we are looking beyond the Democratic Party that no longer represents the values that we held as a party of JFK.
	I don't speak Spanish.
	I speak several other languages, but I think I get the gist of ya basta from Gloria Romero.
	That's the left.
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	He is Dr. Steve Turley, the author of numerous essential works.
	I'm just going to mention The Return of Christendom, also The New Nationalism, and the one that one of our team here says has the most beautiful color cover, Beauty Matters.
	Steve Turley, welcome back to America First One-on-One.
	Dr. Seb, it's wonderful to be back with you.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	You are a busy man.
	It is hard to keep up with you, the amount of content you put out there.
	For those who missed our last discussion, just give us a little potted of who Steve is, what he studied, and what you talk about most often.
	Yeah, thank you for that.
	I started a YouTube channel about five and a half years ago.
	It was actually November 1, 2016, of course, when the election was coming up right around that time.
	I predicted that Donald Trump was going to win because I thought this was going to be a Brexit election based on the studies that I did at Durham University, where I got my PhD across the pond there.
	I came across some studies called post-secular studies.
	This is back in 2009 or so, 2010, and they basically were making the argument that the old globalist world order is more or less dead and a much more traditionalist, national sovereignty-based world order was rising.
	I didn't believe it at the time.
	I didn't have any evidence of that with Obama.
	They were using Russia as an example, or India, or some Middle Eastern nations, and I just thought that was so far removed.
	But when I started seeing Brexit heat up, that's when I started to see, oh, so this is what they're talking about.
	And then when Donald Trump on the campaign trail started referring to himself as, call me Mr. Brexit, I realized we've got something.
	There's some trends here that are very predictive And thank God they brought you and others like you into the sphere of the White House.
	And I've been doing it ever since November 1st, 2016.
	And boy, we're almost about to hit 900,000 subs on YouTube, if you can believe it.
	So it's been amazing.
	That is exciting.
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	Steve, let's talk about the last few decades and the fact that there was a lot of lazy thinking, a lot of inaccurate thinking.
	If you look at Francis Fukuyama, who predicted the end of history and the last man and ideology is over with ideology.
	I'm sure the people of Mariupol and Kiev have a bone to pick with Francis Fukuyama right now.
	What, for you, actually functions?
	has traction in terms of categories.
	Are we having to throw out the old taxonomy?
	Here, one-on-one, we've got the luxury of a little bit more time we can drill down.
	So, if you look at political science, the left, the right, the neoliberal, the paleocon, do we have to jettison those and then come up with new monikers for what we are witnessing, whether it's Brexit or MAGA?
	Yeah, in many respects, I think we are, because the new electorate is crossing the grain of the old political models.
	We're seeing something fascinating here, especially when you compare Brexit vote back in 2016, June 23, to what happened on November 8th, and it's increased ever since then.
	But basically what you had in Brexit, what was so fascinating, is you had a majority of Labour voters—that's Britain's leftist party there, they're Democrats—the majority of Labour voters were all pro-Brexit, a huge amount of them, whereas every single one of their MPs, their members of parliament, were all pro-Remainers, who wanted to stay with the bullies in Brussels of the EU.
	And you saw even that with Theresa May, with the Conservatives, majority of Conservatives.
	Tories wanted to leave, but many of their leaders wanted to stay.
	Even Bojo originally, Boris Johnson, was a remainer at first, but he did change his position on that.
	The politics have had to change in accordance with the change of the electorate.
	I think it's largely because a new division has opened up.
	Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen were really ahead of the curve back in 2010 with their book, Mad as Hell, on the Tea Party movement.
	And they right there said, based on the data that they were analyzing, that the old animosity between Republican and Democrat, or Tory and Labor, conservative and liberal, that tended to be functioning around economic issues, that was dead.
	And a new political division was opening up, and that's the people versus the permanent political class.
	And there was this radical sense That the political class governs according to their own values, their own interests, their own concerns.
	They're becoming increasingly alienated from the values, interests, and concerns of the people.
	We've got data, for example, from the Chatham House, a think tank in Britain, that found that nearly 70 percent of MPs, so political class, believed that immigration was always good for Britain, whereas only 20 percent of the population actually believed that.
	So you could see this massive divide growing, and that's what makes Trump so amazing is out of the 15 or 16 GOP candidates back in 2016, he was the only one that tapped into that new paradigm of the people versus the political he was the only one that tapped into that new paradigm of the people versus the political class, and Romney, every bit as much as it could pit us against Democrats.
	It's the people versus the ruling class.
	That's the new political divide.
	But Steve, you're not telling me that that scoundrel Karl Marx was right.
	Are we in a class-based conflict right now?
	Is it the elite class versus everybody else?
	Yeah, I think that's one way of looking at it, but I think it's very reductionist to reduce it to that kind of economics or something akin to that.
	No, I think this is much larger.
	There's a sense that the globalist order, the so-called rules-based order, that basically replaced civilization with a system.
	It replaced Western civilization with a system that could be superimposed, a political and economic system, that could be superimposed on all people, all times, all places, it didn't matter who you were.
	And then we even went a step further and we said, the level of your The level of your sophistication will be measured to what extent you start buying into these very bougie, cosmopolitan values.
	That system that Francis Fukuyama argued was basically the end of history, the end in our political and economic evolution, as it were, that system is falling apart.
	It's drowning in many respects.
	So you've got For example, the Clash of Civilizations thesis, Sam Huntington, where he basically argued that what happened to the Soviet Union was not the end of history, as Fukuyama argued.
	It was but the latest manifestation of the end of the old modernist, industrial, liberal, globalist order.
	You had more or less three versions in the 20th century that wanted to take over the world, and that's the key to modernity.
	Modernity is imperial by its nature.
	It wants a one-size-fits-all political and economic system.
	You had liberal globalism, you had Soviet communism, of course, and you had Nazi fascism.
	Nazi fascism more or less gets knocked out in the war.
	Then you had the Cold War and this bipolar world, And then when Soviet Union fell, a lot of the rise of the neocons said, okay, it's the Pax Americana.
	Now that we found the one size fits all order for all people's times and places.
	And what Huntington said is No, you don't get what happened.
	What happened to the Soviet Union is precisely what's going to happen to the old liberal, bougie, globalist order.
	It's just lazy thinking.
	He doesn't do any of that.
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	Dr. Turley, Steve, this elite class seems...
	You seem to be immune to any inject of reality.
	I'll just mention two recent stories that you can jump off and further unpack.
	So, number one, we have CNN Plus.
	That is the new subscriber-based additional content for CNN, which on a good night gets 500,000 viewers.
	This humble radio show gets 3 million every day just on radio.
	And then they want people to pay five bucks for more content and nobody's watching and 29 days later after spending three hundred million dollars on this new venture they have to shut it down because nobody subscribed.
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	The idea that CNN executives thought this was a good idea is probably a great example of this elite myopia.
	And then on top of that, let's look at politics.
	The idea that we have viral videos, more than you can count, of captains, stewardesses, whole planes full of passengers, cheering, rejoicing, singing songs as they're taking their masks off.
	And 48 hours later, the Biden administration says, yeah, we're probably going to appeal it and get you to put your mask back on.
	These people, this elite class, Steve, they don't live in the world we live in, do they?
	No, they don't.
	That was so beautifully put, too.
	There's so many levels to think through here.
	I think at one level, liberalism just by its nature deals with what's called totalizing categories.
	This is where you get into things like human rights and women's rights and minority rights and LGBT rights.
	Because they're so enamored with that, they actually believe there's no basis for dissent from particularly how those rights are applied.
	If you're anti-human rights, then by definition you have to be anti-human.
	If you're anti-LGBT rights, by definition you have to be anti-LGBT.
	Or if you're anti-women's rights, By definition, you have to be a sexist.
	This is what wokeism is.
	Wokeism does not allow for any legitimate dissent, and therefore it is the most anti-democratic ideology imaginable.
	It's absolutely horrific.
	In terms of CNN+, what can I say?
	Poor Chris Wallace.
	Talk about the last person anyone's going to take stock tip from, you know?
	And I agree with you.
	Who are these investors who actually thought that a company whose ratings are down 90% from where they were in January of last year, Who ever thought that if their free offerings weren't being watched, somehow their paid programming would?
	Again, this is where ideology meets—or not ideology, but more ideas in terms of the fall of globalism and the rise more of a nationalist populist world.
	This is where it really meets the practical and the We are shifting away from the old mass industrial society to what's called a network society.
	The mass industrial society was a society built around the big cities, so this is where you did get this communist Marxist notion of the bourgeois versus the proletariat.
	And this is where corporations like the New York Times and the Washington Post and L.A.
	Times, Chicago Tribune and NBC and ABC, they all had monopolies over the kind of information that we had access to.
	That age is gone.
	And we're moving into a network society where virtually all major news events today are first reported via video shot by an eyewitness's iPhone, gone are the satellite trucks and the like.
	So the world in many ways is bypassing the old media in the same way that email and text messaging and Skyping is bypassing the post office.
	And the media can no more define what's legitimate information today than the post office can define what's legitimate mail.
	So they're Jurassic and they're slowly and painfully learning so.
	Is that why everybody in the establishment, Steve, suddenly within the space of 24 Hours hates Elon Musk because of his bid for Twitter and this attempt to break the cartel.
	It's exactly what he has been saying.
	He certainly said that with Netflix.
	He said Netflix is losing.
	It just lost, what, $30-40 billion in market valuation when you combine that.
	Business Insider, if I recall, said that when you combine the last two quarters' losses, Netflix may lose upwards of over $90 billion in market valuation when all is said and done.
	And Elon Musk said, because they're so woke, they've become unwatchable.
	So, yeah, I mean, they hate Elon Musk because, in many respects, if you think it through, he's turned free speech into a business model, a very lucrative one at that, right?
	It can be rinsed and repeat all over the place.
	Hello, Peter Thiel and the like.
	Now, obviously, the prerequisites, you've got to be a billionaire.
	You've got to have an extra 40 bill lying around somewhere.
	I don't know, Dr. Sebb, if you've got that, but we'll be hanging out if you do.
	That's the first thing.
	You've got to be a billionaire.
	And the second thing, you've got to establish yourself as a bona fide red pill free speech champion, which Musk has effectively done, whether it's his tweeting out of the cryptic, take the red pill back in 2020, or the myriad of tweets He's tweeted out, very critical of Silicon Valley's crushing of free speech, you name it.
	So those are the first two steps.
	And then the third step is you boldly go into a woke company that's upsetting a lot of people with cancel culture nonsense, and you buy up the largest share of stock in that company, force your way onto the board of directors.
	If that doesn't work, then you've offered to buy the company outright and the stock Explodes!
	I mean, he's more than made his money back at this point.
	So, he's turned free speech into a business model.
	I like that phrase.
	I wrote that down as the first time you said that.
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	Okay, so one thing that strikes me in all of your works, and let's list them again.
	So you've got The Return of Christendom.
	These are the essential reads from Dr. Turley.
	You've got The New Nationalism and Beauty Matters.
	And it's clear from your podcast and from your videos that you are a real optimist, Steve.
	You're a man of faith.
	You believe the secularists can be challenged and you have a very positive attitude to this challenge.
	What makes you think that they can be defeated?
	Because I look at the last five, six years, and I see a man who garnered more votes than any other incumbent president, who was banned from Twitter, who was probably removed from office illegally in that election.
	I see a handful of MAGA candidates who are denuded of their committee membership, who are lambasted by the mainstream, What makes you think that beyond the personal life, the religious life, the family life, that this revitalized conservatism can actually win politically as well?
	We can look at it at so many different angles.
	I'll stick with one that wraps up and very much, nice bow, everything we've been talking about.
	That is the reality that wokeism, which is the value system of our political elite, whether it's politics, corporate, you name it, university and the like, wokeism is unsustainable.
	Wokism is absolutely and totally unsustainable.
	We have data on that, which is really fascinating.
	Eric Kaufman of the University of London wrote a very fascinating article on the data that he analyzed that found that when you ask any amount of Democrats Whether they support any woke issues—CRT to kids, transgender athletes and women's sports, you name it—they're always split on their answer.
	It's about 50-50, 60-40, that kind of thing.
	We actually see it in the parental rights bill, or now law, in Florida, where a Fox poll found that 52% of Democrats actually supported that.
	It was really fascinating.
	However, when you ask Republicans the same question, do you support teaching CRT in our schools?
	Do you support transgender athletes in women's sports?
	What answer do you think you get?
	And I've done this.
	I've done this in one of the American Freedom Tours audience in Phoenix, 3,000 people.
	I said, what's your answer?
	And a whole stadium went, no!
	What we're finding is wokeism is splitting the Democrats, and it's uniting the Republicans.
	It's splitting the Democrats and it's uniting them.
	So in a very practical sense, this is precisely why Glenn Youngkin won such a resounding victory in Virginia.
	It's why we're seeing school boards, even in San Francisco, starting to boot the most woke of woke.
	We're starting to see a real change in our nation by pushing the culture wars.
	If you push the culture wars, they've moved decisively in our direction because they're splitting the left and uniting the right, and that is a recipe for some pretty impressive victory.
	But isn't there a tension between attitudes to cultural issues and then tribal political identity?
	Because if you look at the Hispanic community, or even the black community, and you look at their intimate cultural values, they're very conservative, what they believe in.
	But they vote Democrat for a large part.
	So beyond the polling figures, do you think the sympathy is actually being translated into political identity?
	Or perhaps the more trenchant question, a willingness to leave your political tribe?
	It's such a good question, and the answer is yes.
	It's fascinating.
	Now, it's going to be harder for some over others, but there is a process that Matthew Goodwin and Roger Eatwell, two British scholars, in their book Nationalist Populism, they write about.
	It's a phenomenon known as de-alignment, and we're seeing it all over the place.
	We saw it in 2016.
	We had almost 200 counties in Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania, that had voted for the Democratic presidential candidate in every single election since Mondale, suddenly switch and vote for Donald Trump, sometimes by 20 points.
	We have to remember, Iowa voted for Dukakis in 1988.
	The white working class back then was sobbly FDR New Deal Democrat.
	They have shifted overwhelmingly now, so that twice now, Iowa has voted for Trump by a 10-point margin.
	We're seeing the same thing in Ohio, J.D.
	Vance, for example, pulling away.
	We're seeing it in Pennsylvania, where I'm near, particularly Doug Mastriano and the like.
	So I think we are seeing this de-alignment where people have been aligned with a political party For decades, I suddenly realized that, like Ronald Reagan said, I didn't lead the Democratic Party.
	The Democratic Party left me.
	There was a study that found that in England, 50% of the population in the 1960s felt a very strong fidelity to one of the major political parties, the Tories or Labour.
	Today, it's less than 10%.
	So we're seeing the white working class, we're seeing that with Brexit, we're seeing with Le Pen and France and the like.
	That is a fascinating statistic which provides huge room for manoeuvre for new political movements.
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	There is, however, a problem in our community, in our tribe, if you will.
	And I look at the events of the last eight weeks and I'm very disturbed.
	I see... Look, I've got my baggage.
	My parents suffered as children under fascism, then under communism.
	My father was anti-communist, was betrayed by Kim Philby, arrested, tortured, imprisoned, given a life sentence at the age of 20.
	Only to be liberated a few years later in the Hungarian Revolution.
	So I don't like communists.
	And I especially don't like secret police officers in the KGB.
	And I see, since the invasion of Ukraine, something that I didn't expect I'd ever see as a conservative.
	People who say they're in my tribe, who say they're conservatives, who say they're Republicans, Siding with the KGB colonel, saying that he's some kind of champion of Christendom, despite the fact that he tortured Christians as a KGB officer.
	Some idea that Zielinski, the short Jewish comedian, is somehow a Nazi, despite losing multiple relatives in the Holocaust.
	What is to be done with those amongst us who harbor some strange ideas, conspiratorial ones, go against everything?
	I remember when all conservatives hated KGB officers.
	It didn't matter whether you were a Buchananite or a Reaganite.
	If he's a KGB officer, he's a bad guy!
	Sorry!
	What do you think of these voices?
	Do we ignore them, or is there some ideological, intellectual vaccine we can apply?
	It's a great, it's a phenomenal question, and we're gonna have to see how this works out.
	I think the way I would explain it is, and how I've explained it in my vids, is that It's almost like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
	They're seeing Putin as someone who is breaking and crushing liberal globalism, making Biden look pathetically incompetent—of course, we don't need Putin to do that—and showing the bullies in Brussels just how weak they are and how anemic they are.
	And then they're being bolstered with this notion of the rise of the civilization state, not just in Russia, but in China and India as well.
	So they just see it as, you know, it's a very—I do think it's a kind of the enemy of my enemies, my friend.
	When all is said and done, none of them are going to be moving to Russia.
	Right, but for me, that's a really good way of explaining it, but how do we get to a point where adults with triple digit IQs have such pedestrian child-like thought patterns?
	I mean, seriously, if George Soros doesn't like Xi Jinping.
	Does that make Xi Jinping my friend?
	Because this is the idea that, oh, Putin doesn't like homosexuality.
	OK, but he murders journalists who uncover corruption about his regime.
	So it's not, I mean, I hate the word nuance because the left uses it as an excuse for cowardice.
	But really, when did conservatives get to a point where they couldn't think in three dimensions?
	Yeah, no, it's a great question.
	I do think most likely it's derived from the idea that ideology has more or less been replaced by identity.
	So if the 20th century was a century of political ideology, communism versus capitalism, The 21st century is the politics of identity.
	Who's with me?
	Who's on my side?
	Who am I?
	That kind of thing.
	We see that both on the left and the right, certainly with the left with the BLM, that's allowed identity.
	But if you want national sovereignty or Western civilization, no, no, no, you're not allowed to have that.
	So I just think there's a sense that there is no friend There is no outside of Trump, but there's no political friend that is really defending the notion of nation, culture, custom, and tradition.
	We have to admit, when Putin talks, he uses that language, as does Xi Jinping, as does Narendra Modi.
	That's the language of the new civilization we're moving into, worldwide civilization.
	So, no question, none of them are going to be going and applying for a Russian passport.
	I just think in the end, they just think that the globalist world order is just so rotten to its core.
	It's very similar to what Tucker is saying.
	It's like, look, Putin's not trying to cancel me.
	Putin's not calling me names.
	It's Pelosi.
	She's my enemy.
	She's the problem.
	And so it is.
	It's a very, very complicated situation.
	I actually just did a live stream today on the way the Orthodox—I'm Orthodox—and happy, blessed Good Friday to all our Orthodox brothers out there.
	But I did a whole live stream on how the Orthodox Church may have been irreparably split as a result of this war.
	So it's a very complicated and very tragic thing, no question.
	the way it plays out for different people is going to be comparably different and comparably complex as well. - Yeah, I have to respond to that Tucker line that Nancy Pelosi may want to crush Tucker and remove his freedom of speech, But that doesn't make Vladimir Putin a good guy.
	It's lazy thinking.
	This is a man with nuclear weapons who is breaking international taboos of invading independent countries.
	So the idea that that's irrelevant.
	It wasn't irrelevant in 1939.
	It wasn't irrelevant in 1941.
	It wasn't irrelevant in 2001, and it's not irrelevant now.
	So, come on guys, try a little bit harder.
	Conservatives are smarter.
	Let's actually act smarter as well.
	Last point on this.
	A very wise man once opened my eyes to this.
	You use the word ideology again and again and again, and I want to run this by you.
	Robert Riley, who wrote The Closing of the Muslim Mind and some amazing works on natural law, said, you've got to get it right, Seb.
	It's not a competition of ideologies.
	Everybody else has an ideology, whether they're communists, fascists, or jihadis.
	We don't have an ideology.
	If you're a Christian, if you're a conservative, we have the truth, right?
	Right.
	The ideology is a prism that distorts the truth.
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	So I very rarely do this.
	I don't leave people hanging.
	I don't give them time to think.
	But I just did with Dr. Turley.
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	What do you think of my friend who said, you know, the real difference is we don't have an ideology.
	We have the truth.
	Your response, Steve.
	Ah, my, that's true.
	I am the way, the truth, and the life, right?
	Yeah.
	This is the beauty of Western civilization.
	This is why it's given us, I believe, the most amazing literature, art, architecture, music, poetry, drama, politics, and economics imaginable.
	My wife is from Japan.
	We both met at a music conservatory.
	I was a classical guitarist.
	She's a pianist.
	And she came from a far Asian nation to come to one of the best conservatories in the world to study Western music because it has so much attraction, so much pull just from the nature of beauty.
	So I think he's on to something.
	Look, in the end—again, this is Good Friday for the Orthodox—we have to remember that the cross says it all, and the cross is not an ideology.
	The cross is truth, and truth transforms.
	And the transformation is found in the fact that in the cross, I see who I really am.
	We see who we really are.
	We think we're cool.
	We think we got it all together.
	Believe me, I think I've got it all together until I start talking to my wife and my kids and I find out how bad I got it.
	But I don't even have to look at my wife and my kids.
	I just have to look at the cross.
	Because the cross teaches me that when truth comes into our lives, in a world of lies and despair and power and ugliness, it can only appear as crucified.
	We destroy truth.
	We crush truth.
	And we all do it.
	We all participate in that.
	And then that leads to the second question.
	The cross reveals who I am.
	Then the second question is, what kind of God would do that?
	What kind of God would submit himself to that kind of humiliating punishment, horror, Just to show me who I really am.
	What's a God of infinite and eternal love?
	A love that cannot be destroyed.
	A love that cannot be crushed.
	That cannot be annihilated.
	And that's what the resurrection is all about.
	The resurrection is the blossoming, the breaking forth of that love that declares to all the world that it cannot be destroyed.
	It can only transfigure.
	And so in the cross, I see who I really am, and I see who God really is.
	And all of a sudden, in that moment, the most horrific instrument of excruciating torture and death, crucifixion, transfigures in front of my very eyes into a tree of life.
	And that is the gift that we have at the very heart of Western civilization.
	Yeah, it is stunning.
	I have to remind myself several times every year, when I first realized that it was quite a seminal moment, a Damascene moment for me, that we take it for granted.
	We don't even think about it.
	That our civilization's symbol is a torture instrument.
	No other civilization has a pair of handcuffs or an iron maiden or a thumbscrew as the most powerful symbol of that civilization.
	The crucifix wasn't for Jesus.
	The crucifix was the worst form of death penalty used by the Romans.
	And it was used on the Appian Way for thousands of slaves and gladiators who revolted at one time.
	Literally thousands of crucifixes along the highway.
	And this thing, this common torture instrument, Became the most important symbol of our civilization.
	It's something we should meditate on and we should remind ourselves of every now and again.
	I have one more question for you, Steve, and I could continue this for hours.
	Please follow this man and read his books.
	Give me some hope.
	I'm a guy in the media, in the political world.
	I try to be a good Christian, go to church with my family.
	Are you seeing some signs out there in the Catholic faith, in the Orthodox faith?
	I see some amazing people, some amazing bishops coming out of Africa.
	Are you seeing signs of hope of some revivification of Western civilization, Steve?
	I am.
	I am.
	It's humble, and that's exactly the way it should be.
	It tends to be its bottom up in many respects.
	We talked about last time we were together, Seb, a demographic revolution that's happening even faster than demographers had thought.
	Where conservative Christians, particularly conservative religious in general, are having lots and lots of kids.
	They're homeschooling them, they're sending them to Bible colleges and all the parallel institutions and the like.
	And now we have the data in, and we're finding that about 80% of them are retaining that faith into adulthood.
	So we are seeing a very slow but very real transformation.
	It's not just happening in the United States, it's happening in Europe as well.
	It's going to take a little longer in Europe, obviously, because of the ravages of secularization there that we didn't have in our midlands, as it were.
	But as that works itself out, starting around 2030, we're supposed to start seeing the culture war shift dramatically to the conservative, traditionalist side of things.
	I can't wait for that to happen, I'll tell you that.
	You're not the only one.
	It's an exciting time to be alive, dear friend.
	TurleyTalks.com is the website.
	We've already won, thanks to our Lord and Savior, but we are winning again here down on Earth.
	Dr. TurleyTalks on Twitter.
	You've got to follow him, read his books.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This has been America First one-on-one.

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