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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: AOC's getting ready for January 6th 2.0

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	Is it Friday?
	Are you in a Friday mood?
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	Happy Second Amendment Friday because that's what we do here.
	It's Ask Dr. G. What is going on?
	I haven't even given out the flipping phone number and we've already got three calls.
	Maybe people already know.
	Maybe of the three million people listening most of you know that's Friday which means it's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
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	I know we'll get some movie questions, some firearms questions.
	We've got a special Second Amendment guest later on.
	We've got Jim Carrafano.
	Just saw him moments ago on Fox News.
	Fascinating details about what's happening in Ukraine.
	The siege tactics being deployed by Russia.
	We'll have an update from Jim in studio.
	Robbie Starbuck with some news out of Tennessee.
	Not good.
	The GOP are playing dirty.
	We're going to give you all the details and then of course you, our dear caller and listener.
	But first, yesterday The Heritage Foundation, which has been lambasted unfairly by some in the MAGA movement as corporate conservatism.
	No, no, no.
	Especially under their new president, Kevin Roberts.
	Well, guess who spoke at their special event yesterday?
	None other than my former boss, President Trump.
	And I want you to watch the whole video.
	It's not a long speech.
	We'll post it on our Twitter feeds, our Truth Social, Facebook.
	But here is just 17 seconds that is a perfect summary of the situation we find ourselves in without President Trump in the White House.
	Cut 12.
	Our movement must continue to pursue a populist nationalist economic agenda that puts working families before globalist politicians and woke multinational corporations who are mentally ill in many cases.
	They're sick.
	Very simple.
	We have created, out of the ashes of the Tea Party movement, that I'm sure many, many of you were involved with, that was truly grassroots, really didn't have some sexy national leadership, people with big egos.
	Out of that, Which the GOP really never, never internalized.
	President Trump created the America First movement.
	It is a populist, nationalist movement in the good sense of the word.
	Not the way that the left have spun it to make the word nationalist pejorative.
	Let's stop for a second.
	How is it possible that nationalism is bad?
	If nationalism is bad, then shouldn't we not have nations?
	The system we live in, with 200 countries around the world that the scholars call the Westphalian nation-state system, is the system we live in.
	We went from feudal societies, colonies, monarchies, tribal systems, To one in which the modern nation-state was created.
	Where the concept of citizenship was established.
	With the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 being the watershed.
	Saying we have a new international system and it has objects in it.
	And those objects are nation-states.
	And how are they defined?
	They have territory.
	They have sovereignty.
	And they have borders.
	And the business of one nation's internal structure and politics is the sovereign preserve of that nation.
	Others can run things the way they want to run things.
	If you want to be a constitutional monarchy like the UK, okay.
	If you want to be part of some international commonwealth like Australia, fine.
	If you want to have a republic, As we are, then that's the system we choose for ourselves as Americans.
	That's the system.
	So, believing in your nation is a prerequisite, is it not?
	What is wrong in saying, yeah, I'm a nationalist?
	The left, after the 20th century, after fascism, after the Nazis, managed to tar that word with a brush that is negative, leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
	But where do they live?
	Where do the liberal elites live?
	Do they live in some non-nation state paradise of Starbucks for free and Netflix for free?
	Or do they live not far from this studio in Adams Morgan in Georgetown in a part of the United States that is a republic?
	Well of course they do.
	And of course it is the right, in fact it is the duty of every nation state to stand up for its national values.
	Some of them may be bad guys, absolutely.
	Putin, KGB colonel, got it, that's Russia.
	Xi Jinping in China, got it, bad guy, communist.
	The Mullahs in Iran.
	But it is their job to represent their nation.
	In good countries like ourselves, it's the responsibility of our representatives to preserve those values.
	And that's what the president is talking about.
	Why?
	This is a realization I came to a couple of years ago.
	The problem we face from Obama, I think before that, I think Democrat presidents, even probably Clinton, would have to be on the positive side of this equation.
	From Clinton on back, they believed in America.
	They may have been garbage presidents, like Carter, but with Obama and with Biden, what we have is an elite.
	This is the paradox.
	This is the perverse paradox we are in.
	We have people who ran for the presidency, who became the commander-in-chief, who don't believe in the nation they represent.
	What kind of pervert decides to run For a position where they'll be the chief executive of a country they hate.
	What kind of person becomes president and the first thing they do is go on an international apology tour like Obama did.
	It's perverse.
	It's abnormal.
	We're seeing it again with this senile old man who's just a shadow of Obama.
	President Trump is the opposite.
	He loves America.
	I can assure you, having worked for him, having sat across the resolute desk in the Oval Office with only two of us in the Oval Office, this is a man who loves America.
	Saw a broken America.
	Saw a corrupt Washington.
	And said, you know what?
	I spent 50 years building things.
	Building amazing things.
	And somebody needs to fix this.
	I'm not doing it for the money.
	I'm not doing it for the fame.
	But I'm doing it because I'm a patriot.
	That's who he is and his speech yesterday is seminal.
	You've got to listen to his speech at the Heritage Foundation along with perhaps the most important speech he ever gave that I was proud to be involved in its shaping and its forming and that's his Warsaw speech where he talked about us having the courage to defend our civilization from those who wish to destroy it.
	Nothing's changed since he gave that speech, except more people inside America want to destroy America.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to President Trump.
	This is America First.
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	Eric?
	I can't hear you.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Yeah, yeah, Eric?
	Yeah, so it's just his name all in one.
	Okay.
	Alright, can you give me a call without it going on the stream?
	Line four. Line four.
	Line four.
	R-O-B-B-Y, right?
	Can you all hear me?
	Hey guys.
	Can you all hear me okay?
	Yep, we've got 35 seconds till we're going back on the air.
	Yes.
	Awesome.
	Okay, cool.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Portions of America First are brought to you in part by the International Fellowship for Christians and Jews.
	Hey, um, Eric, it's not April 1st, is it, out there?
	What's the date?
	Uh, today is April to the 22nd.
	April the 22nd.
	Okay.
	I'm just reading.
	I know it's Second Amendment Friday.
	I'm, you know, trolling on social media.
	This is from A.W.R.
	Hawkins, our buddy for Second Amendment issues at Breitbart.
	Here's quite a headline with a photograph of the individual concerned.
	Florida Sheriff says homeowners can save taxpayer money by shooting intruders.
	I just got to read this because I mean it is a Second Amendment Friday.
	This is from Sheriff Johnson, Santa Rosa County.
	Quote, if someone's breaking into your home You're more than welcome to shoot them in Santa Rosa County.
	We prefer that you actually do.
	So, whoever that was, you're not in trouble.
	Come see us.
	We have gun safety classes we put on every other Saturday.
	If you take that class, you'll shoot a lot better.
	And hopefully, you'll save the taxpayers money.
	All right, we need more sheriffs like Sheriff Johnson.
	Dear friends, that's said in jest, okay?
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	Okay, special guest.
	Had to get him on the show because something strange is going on in the state of Denmark.
	I mean Tennessee and especially the Fifth District.
	I was campaigning for this chap about two weeks ago along with Senator Rand Paul at a lovely event thanks to Jim Hansen who opened his house to us all and Robbie Starbuck allegedly is now not running for the Seat, the congressional seat in the fifth district because of some shenanigans by the local Republican Party.
	So, had to get him back on the show.
	Robbie, happy Friday and welcome back to America First.
	Can you tell us what's going on?
	Absolutely.
	And first of all, I am still going to run.
	So one way or another, voters are going to have a way to be able to vote for me.
	But these are shenanigans by the Republican establishment here.
	You know, they don't want an America First candidate that they can't control to win this race.
	They see the polls.
	They know I'm winning.
	And they wanted to get rid of me.
	And then secondly, they wanted to get rid of Morgan Ortegas because they knew she had the Trump endorsement, and if I was gone, then the most likely person to win was going to be Morgan.
	And they wanted someone they could control.
	Okay, so let's stop here for those who haven't followed the story to date.
	I've said publicly, you're the most MAGA guy in the district.
	You've proven yourself.
	You're fighting the culture war, knowing it from the inside, having worked in Hollywood.
	You have, you know, people like Rand Paul at your events.
	Clearly, you know, you're a good guy.
	And then up pops, a couple of months ago, Morgan Ortegas, who worked in the Trump administration but loves posting selfies with Biden and with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
	Not exactly an anti-swamp creature, if you will, and we had a few people of that ilk, to say the least, inside the Trump administration.
	So I get it if the local GOP are rhinos in Tennessee and they want to get rid of you, but Morgan really isn't MAGA.
	Why do they want to get rid of both of you?
	Who's the next person in line that this residency requirement of three years bumps to the top?
	Is it some uber rhino?
	Let's spill the beans.
	Who do they want to win?
	It's not about the residency at all.
	It's actually not about that.
	So the residency law wouldn't have affected me.
	Morgan had actually beat the residency law.
	The Secretary of State here had said it was not going to be enforceable because it happened after our qualifying deadline.
	This is actually about people making challenges.
	There's an obscure bylaw in the Republican Party here that says that any two Republicans can challenge a Republican candidate on the premise that they are, in fact, a Republican.
	They're actually kicking out me and Morgan under the premise that we are not Republicans.
	What?
	Yes.
	So it goes to a 17 person panel who votes.
	A majority rules on that panel.
	And it's these people who are entrenched in the Tennessee Republican establishment decided for the voters They selected who your choices are going to be.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I don't want to get lost down a rabbit hole of Byzantine, Tennessee, GOP, House rules, bylaws.
	But under what evidentiary basis are they saying anyone isn't a Republican, Robbie, you or Morgan?
	They have none.
	They have absolutely none.
	And look, Morgan and I, we don't agree on policy all the time and all that stuff.
	You can have your differences and say, I would not vote for whatever it is.
	But she's a Republican, okay?
	She has every right to run in a Republican primary, just like I do, and the voters are supposed to make their choice.
	That's how this is supposed to work, you know?
	It actually, what they're doing is reminiscent of, my family, you know, is from Cuba.
	In Cuba, they had a central committee who chose puppet candidates of the party and then gave the people a sham election where they really had no option.
	The option was one party puppet versus party puppet number two.
	That is what we're doing with a state executive committee for the Tennessee Republican Party is saying we're going to select what candidates people are allowed to choose from.
	And guess what?
	The only candidates left who are going to be viable and have money are right under the thumb of the Tennessee GOP and will do whatever the establishment demands they do.
	This, this is filthy.
	This is slime.
	This is DC tactics.
	So tell us what you're going to do, how we can help you.
	It's starbuck2022.com.
	So give us, we've got a minute, two and a half minutes left.
	What is your plan now, Robbie?
	So we've already issued a demand letter to the Tennessee Republican Party and they've crossed the deadline without meeting our demands.
	So next step is going to be a lawsuit.
	You know, we're doing that as fast as we can.
	This is an unprecedented situation where they kick off, you know, candidates who are in the lead of the race and say, oh, no, you can't run 90 days before an election.
	So we're in sort of unprecedented territory where we're taking a huge legal team, huge legal fight on.
	And I think the secondary goal these people have is try to drain us of resources at the same time we need to go and finish this race out.
	So if people can donate at starbuck2022.com to the fund to be able to fight this legal lunacy that we're going to have to take on here, it's very important.
	We've stood here and fought over election fraud and election integrity for almost two years now.
	And to sit there and have people in our own party go and try to steal this election from the people of Tennessee is what's really disgusting.
	And we're going to have a video out very soon of voters talking about why they demand the Tennessee Republican Party put their chosen candidate back on the ballot.
	And I think that's going to be a powerful tool to go and fight against these elitists who think they can go in a back room and decide who gets to run.
	And for the people who don't know, Donald Trump Jr.
	has actually jumped in and he's gone after the Tennessee Republican Party for it.
	He said, Robbie and Morgan need to be on the ballot, period.
	Right.
	And there's been some more statements from him About other candidates in this race and I think there will be continual statements from people all over our movement to ensure that the pressure is put on.
	We got to call these people and let them know how we feel.
	This feeds into the worst cliches of corrupt Tennessee good old boy network.
	This is filthy.
	This is disgusting.
	All right, we've got to have you back.
	We've got to stop this.
	It is the people of America who choose who they get to vote for.
	Starbuck2022.com.
	Keep fighting, buddy.
	This is America First wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
	Please make sure that you stay on this channel because it's Friday.
	The call board is full.
	We've got to celebrate America, celebrate the Second Amendment, and you have to sound off as well.
	Stay on this channel.
	Hey, Robbie.
	Yeah?
	That was nuts.
	I mean, that story is just nuts.
	It's totally...
	It's totally nuts.
	It's totally nuts.
	It's totally nuts.
	Is this a record, John?
	Is the Midas a record?
	All right, let's knock it out.
	Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
	Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
	Thank you.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Hang on, let me just choose something.
	Come in with four.
	Can you, can you come in with four?
	What is he called?
	Mr. What does he call himself?
	Mr. Wonderful, right?
	Right?
	Missed the one.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Yep. Yep.
	Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
	And I think, frankly, if you ask me about free speech and who should be canceled, who's not, the reason this thing is underperformed is they've tried to do this curation by canceling voices and losing millions of followers.
	Now, you know, when you start to try and figure out who should have a voice and who shouldn't, you're stepping on the basic principles of free speech in America.
	And that really doesn't sit well with the majority of the population.
	That is the man who calls himself Mr. Wonderful.
	Kevin O'Leary looks like he's gone on the COVID diet or he's doing my PhD program.
	He's lost weight.
	He looks good.
	And he is getting involved in the Twitter war with Elon.
	Far more to come from him in a moment.
	We're going to go to your calls straight away.
	But first, please, please, if you haven't done so already, if you're horrified, if you're depressed at what you're seeing coming out of Ukraine, make a difference.
	Please, please make a donation to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.
	They are flying relief every single day.
	Food and medicine and clothing to the women and children who are still trapped in Ukraine, who are being shelled by the Russians.
	We're not going to go and fight for them.
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	Let's go!
	Line one!
	970-5010.
	Don!
	Let's go.
	Line one.
	Don, Los Angeles.
	Dr. G. Hey.
	The rolling thunder voice of American freedom.
	I am good.
	It's Friday, of course I'm good, and I'm better for hearing your voice.
	What's your comment, my friend?
	What's your question?
	Well, you know, I had a question.
	I wanted to run it by you, see what you thought.
	You know, I like that we're giving, you know, arms and aids to Ukrainians.
	That's good.
	I like that we're putting sanctions on Putin's Russia.
	That's good.
	But I really wish we'd much more strongly emphasize the Russian people rising up to take their own freedom, their own liberation, because we don't want regime change.
	You know, one bad guy knocking off another bad guy.
	You know, we wanted to percolate up from the ground because the Russian people, Dr. Gorka, you know, they're so courageous.
	The pro-democracy movement in Russia, they just won't quit.
	You know, they keep getting shot in the street, clubbed, imprisoned, whatever.
	They don't quit.
	And I think there's a lot of Ukrainian in them, you know.
	And I think that we could much more explicitly put pressure on them.
	Just like the Chinese, the Iranians, the people are on our side.
	The government is against the people and against us.
	You know, they're our best allies, and I think we should really utilize them.
	I was wondering what you thought.
	I don't want to risk our friendship, Don, but this will be a moment where we disagree with each other.
	I think in Iran, the people, especially the youth, hate the regime, but they don't love us.
	They are pro-Persian.
	They are not pro-Western civilization.
	They see their civilization as much older than ours and superior to it.
	In China and Russia, however, I just don't see it.
	I just don't see the numbers.
	These are collectivist societies.
	If you look at Confucian Taoist Taoist philosophy, the needs of the many always outweighed the needs of the few.
	Individual liberty is not not valued.
	Therefore, the idea that there'll be a people's revolt in China, no, in Hong Kong that had, you know, British influence for a century, yes, but no, not in China and not in Russia.
	I mean, God bless, you're absolutely right.
	The handful of people Well, I guess we don't have to agree on everything.
	but it is a minuscule fraction of a fraction from Peter the Great through Ivan the Terrible.
	They like the strong man.
	And with Putin exploiting this concept that he's fighting Nazis, far too many Russians, my friend, are on his side.
	Well, I guess we don't have to agree on everything.
	We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
	All right, my friend.
	Have a great, great Friday.
	Let's get through the calls.
	Al, also in California, line two.
	Welcome, Al.
	Is this the Minister of Cigars?
	Oh, I like that!
	Yes, I will be your Minister of Culture and Cigars.
	Okay, listen, I've got two-fold questions.
	Yes.
	Kind of dovetailing on what your previous guest with the voice was saying.
	Up to September of 1945, we sent tons and tons of equipment to the Russian people.
	I wonder if they were grateful for it at all, because they said, what do you think won World War II?
	And Eric Hartman, the German ace, said 375,000 Studebaker trucks.
	Do you think the average Russian is aware of what we sent them in World War II?
	No, absolutely not.
	And I think, who was it?
	I think it was on this show, it was Lord Black, who said, we need a new lend-lease, and we need that lend-lease for Ukraine.
	Quickly, one more question, we've got just a few seconds.
	One more question.
	I don't know whether this was movie dialogue, but General Patton said, you give me two weeks, and I'll have it at war with the Russians, and I'll push them back to Moscow.
	Now, was that movie dialogue, or did Patton really say that?
	He had that philosophy and that attitude.
	Whether he used those words exactly, I'd have to check.
	But yeah, he understood, as many others did who weren't allowed to affect any kind of strategy, that the communist threat was actually the real threat to Western civilization once Hitler had been dealt with.
	Thank you, my friend!
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	Yes.
	Yeah, that was.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	1A President Trump on Disney and the rest of the loonies.
	Starbuck.
	The Rotten Republicans in Tennessee.
	The Return of Christendom.
	them all right internet will be ready I'm here I'm hearing something in my ear.
	Okay.
	We'll be back with Dr. Turley in a moment.
	Back with me Sebastian Gorka and Stephen Turley in a moment.
	We'll be back one-on-one with Dr. Turley after these messages.
	Stay with us for more one-on-one with Dr. Turley in a moment.
	Welcome back to America First with me Sebastian Gorka and Dr. Stephen Turley.
	You're listening to America First one-on-one with me Sebastian Gorka and Stephen Turley.
	Welcome back to One on One with me, Sebastian Gorka.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hi, Elaine.
	Hi, Elaine. - See you.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	How are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	I'm good.
	All right.
	So we'll have about seven, eight minutes.
	And you will answer all these questions for me.
	All right.
	Sounds good.
	Stand by. Tracy Ennett.
	Stand by.
	tour.
	Tax day has come and gone and it couldn't have come at a worse time for Americans with a 2.5 trillion dollar tax increase about to be brought by the Biden administration.
	Targeting who?
	Targeting small businesses, the lifeblood of America.
	We need to stop the craziness in the swamp.
	The Job Creators Network have a petition underway.
	Please go to thegreatopportunityproject.com Because we need to have the Trump-era tax cuts carved in stone and not tax increases.
	That is thegreatopportunityproject.com.
	Go today, thegreatopportunityproject.com.
	We are delighted to expand upon this issue, to understand just how serious the threat is with the Job Creator Network's very own Elaine.
	Are you there?
	Welcome back to America First, Elaine Parker.
	I am here.
	Thanks for having me, Sebastian.
	All right, let's start at the strategic level.
	Let's go up to 50,000 feet.
	When we see this phenomena of quote-unquote woke corporations across America, whether it's Disney, Starbucks, or you name it, what should we understand by that?
	And what are the actual economic consequences that you are fighting against?
	So we launched a campaign just this week called the Boardroom Initiative, and it's a coalition of conservative free market groups like Job Creators Network who are going to push back against all of this wokeness from corporations that we're seeing.
	And, Sebastian, the reality is these CEOs of these major corporations, they have a duty to their shareholders to deliver value to them in the form of profit.
	And when they step out of, uh, into the social issues that have nothing to do with their corporations, and they start using shareholder dollars to fight them.
	And I'll use Disney as an example.
	You know, their mission on their website basically says that their mission is to entertain children.
	But two weeks ago, the CEO of Disney said the goal of this company will be to fight the new law passed in Florida and overturn it in the courts.
	Yeah.
	he get that voted on by the shareholders or approved by the board?
	I don't think so.
	That's not his job.
	So the real losers in this are the shareholders of these corporations.
	And let me remind you who they are.
	People like you and me with 401Ks invested in them, retirees.
	Have you identified, Elaine, where this is coming from?
	Because, you know, the American tradition, as the greatest free market nation in the world, is to build something, to make something, to provide a service, and it's a very simple formula.
	Make the best product, Provide the best service at the most reasonable price.
	If you do that, your business will flourish.
	Where did the wokeness suddenly creep in to an extent that it seems universal for big corporations?
	Well, it's been happening for a long time.
	On the left, we've been seeing shareholder activism from minority owned shareholders, people who own a minority interest in companies, becoming very activist and influencing board members.
	And how do they do that?
	They do that by threatening to hurt the value of the stock.
	And that gets the board's attention, obviously, and so we've been seeing boards get changed out and having more leftist people elected to these boards and tilting these companies in that direction.
	And so the boardroom initiative will actually be the antidote to this.
	We will be submitting shareholder proposals and advancing viewpoint diversity on company boards and using all of the digital channels available to us to spread awareness of our mission.
	And the first initiative, the first effort that we're going to take is a shareholder proposal actually next week on the 26th at Bank of America's annual meeting.
	And we're calling for a civil rights audit of the diversity policies at the company to ensure that no race or gender groups are being excluded in the name of equity or anti-racism.
	That's fabulous, isn't it?
	They don't just talk a good game, they actually walk the walk.
	It's the Job Creators Network and we're talking to Elaine Parker.
	You can follow her Elaine underscore Parker.
	Okay.
	Beyond the Boardroom Initiative, we've discussed or I mentioned the Great Opportunity Project, which is focusing on the 2017 Trump era tax cuts.
	For those who don't spend, you know, every waking hour reading these massive bills or going through the proposals, why is the 2017 Trump tax bill the one that is so much better than what we're seeing proposed right now?
	Well, look, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that passed in 2017 created the greatest economy that we have seen in half a century.
	And it propelled our economy to see the lowest unemployment rates across the board in every demographic.
	And we saw wages grow at the fastest rate we've seen in a decade.
	Now, I will tell you, we are seeing wages grow at a fast rate right now.
	But unfortunately we have massive inflation that is outpacing it so much so that people are actually experiencing a pay cut.
	And so we launched this campaign called the Great Opportunity Project so that we could highlight the differences, the state successes that we're seeing from these conservative governors across the country through cut through governors who have cut taxes and cut regulations and their states are prospering and they were actually able to balance the health and safety of their citizens with health and safety of their economies.
	And we think that Washington should take a lesson from some of these governors, whether it's, you know, the governor of Arizona who cut taxes, the governor of Iowa who's going to a flat tax, South Dakota who never ever closed their state at all.
	And you look at Georgia, the governor there is suspending the gas tax because he's trying to help his citizens.
	And that's going to save them 28 cents a gallon.
	So we're trying to teach the Biden administration a lesson or two on how to take care of the American people.
	Will you explain for those who aren't familiar, because when I first heard these figures a few years ago, I found them stunning myself, why it is small and medium-sized businesses that are so important.
	Can you talk about some of the figures and the proportion of the economy that isn't Starbucks and Walmart and Amazon?
	Yeah, so it's an incredible community out there, Sebastian.
	There's 30 million small businesses out there.
	They employ 60 million people, they employ half our workforce, and they generate two-thirds of all new jobs.
	So it's an incredible, they are the backbone of the economy.
	They're our neighbors.
	They're our friends.
	We go to church with them.
	They support all the little leagues.
	These are the entrepreneurs.
	These are the innovators of our time.
	And we've got to support them because they are the job creators.
	They are the idea innovators.
	And they are the ones who have the next big idea.
	You know who my founder is, right?
	Bernie Marcus.
	He's the co-founder of the Home Depot.
	It is.
	Yeah, big company, right?
	So he had a small idea.
	Well, no, and he understands.
	He understands what the beating heart of America is.
	So, I mean, God bless you, Bernie, and everybody at the Job Creators Network.
	So please go right now.
	We've got to win this one.
	TheGreatOpportunityProject.com.
	That's the Great opportunity.
	Project.com.
	Thank you, Elaine.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Hi, Dr. Gorka, how are you?
	Good, happy Friday.
	Same to you.
	Remember you called, I told you last week that I had problems shooting because I have arthritis?
	Yes.
	I found a gun.
	All right, is it the one I recommended or did you ignore my advice, Elaine?
	No, I did not ignore your advice.
	I went ahead and I tried the SIG P365XL.
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	I mean, takes a little bit to control it.
	Yes.
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	50 rounds?
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	Well, I use it with one hand.
	Why one hand?
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	No, no, no, no, Elaine.
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	This isn't 1912, okay?
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	You're not in a duel right now.
	This isn't 1912, okay?
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	Two hands.
	It's the way to go.
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	Elaine, you've got to let me talk, okay?
	It's my show.
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	Were you comfortable with it?
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	Seb, can you hear me?
	Oh, hang on.
	Okay, video's starting.
	Boris?
	We seem to have Boris.
	Okay, 30 seconds.
	All right, guys, Jeff.
	The mics are live on video.
	The mics are live on video.
	The mics are live on video.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	I am definitely in a Friday kind of mood.
	Great calls.
	We'll get back to them momentarily.
	We're going to have Jim Carrafano in studio.
	We've torn him away from his Fox News hit just a few moments ago.
	He's going to give all of you the updates on what is happening in the European theatre of conflict.
	But it's time to talk domestic politics.
	You know, let's talk about something really serious first.
	Boris Epstein, the Baron.
	Is it possible that I may have spoken smoking more cigars in the last few days than you?
	No doubt about it.
	Really?
	Finally?
	Yes.
	Because it's hard to keep up with you.
	But I've been sending you the photographs and like you're not returning the usual photograph of you with your stogie.
	No, you're beating me.
	You know, I'm on the road.
	I'm traveling.
	I'm a little bit of a I'm huffin' and puffin', you know, but not in the cigar way, necessarily.
	So, I think this week, you've got up on me.
	And, you know, what I was most impressed about is the morning stogie today.
	I thought that was very effervescent of you.
	Well, my wife left me again.
	She's traveling for the Heritage Foundation.
	Once she got out of the door on the way to the airport, I said, OK, I got no excuses.
	I'm with the dogs.
	I'm prepping for the show.
	I'm going to sit outside.
	It's a lovely Friday.
	I'm going to have an Oliva Reserve No.
	5, which is a rather tasty cigar.
	Would you agree?
	It's a gorgeous cigar.
	It's a perfect Friday morning cigar.
	Yes!
	Before you have the Baron on your show.
	Indeed!
	Indeed!
	But you gotta catch up this weekend.
	Promise me you're gonna catch up.
	I'm gonna catch up tonight.
	Alright.
	You saw the picture I sent you a few days ago of a cigar that was about this long, right?
	I did.
	I did.
	All right.
	We have our work set out for us.
	Okay, let's get to politics.
	I haven't rehearsed this with you.
	I don't know if you've got a particular take.
	I'm just going to play the audio.
	Big story inside the swamp.
	Liz Cheney, scumbag, recording phone conversations with her leader in the House, Kevin McCarthy, about getting President Trump to resign.
	So let's play the whole audio, or video cut, cut one.
	Liz, you on the phone?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Thanks, Kevin.
	I guess, first, a question.
	When we were talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, and you asked what happens if it gets there after he's gone, is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign?
	Is there any reason to think that might happen?
	I've had a few discussions.
	My gut tells me no.
	I'm seriously thinking of having that conversation with him tonight.
	I haven't talked to him in a couple days.
	From what I know of him, I mean, you guys all know him too.
	Do you think he'd ever back away?
	But what I think I'm going to do is I'm going to call him.
	This is what I think.
	Nobody will pass the house.
	I think there's a chance we'll pass the Senate, even when he's gone.
	And I think there's a lot of different ramifications for that.
	Now, I haven't had a discussion with the Dems that if we did resign, would it not happen?
	Now, this is one personal fear I have.
	I do not want to get into any conversation about Pence partying again.
	I mean, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass, and it would be my recommendation that you do not.
	Alright, so that's the transcript and the audio of a phone call between Liz Cheney, the Uber Rhino, and Kevin McCarthy about President Trump resigning back in January after the election.
	I just, first, let me put the question like this.
	What does that audio, of course it's related to a book by the New York Times, what does that audio tell you as an arch-political strategist about both of the people in that call?
	Let's talk about Liz, let's talk about Kevin.
	Liz Cheney's on brand, right?
	She's a backstabber.
	That's who she is.
	And, you know, it almost looks like she was initiating the call, or, you know, she was the conference chair at the time, running the call.
	So, you know, her people are saying she didn't tape the phone call, but again, as I said earlier on War Room, well, there's two people's voices you hear, and I think Scalise may have been on the call as well.
	Who is that recording beneficial to?
	Who is that on brand for but Liz Cheney?
	Okay?
	So unless proven otherwise, let's go with the fact that Liz Cheney taped that phone call, a private call that she was having.
	And in terms of Kel McCarthy, you know, again, I said this morning, this is very unfortunate for Leader McCarthy.
	There's no two ways about it.
	You know, he put out a statement yesterday morning.
	You know, he's saying the New York Times reporting was wrong, then they dropped the tape, and now there's a back and forth.
	Now, what's interesting, Sebastian, is that the New York Times story around all this, the coup de grace of the story, the takeaway of the story, is that President Trump continues to be the most powerful man in Republican politics.
	And that McCarthy has done all he can to be on President Trump's good side.
	And even McConnell has said that if President Trump is the nominee, he'll back him in 2024.
	So right now, there's going to be a sort of a discussion, a give and take between Kevin McCarthy and MAGA, right?
	And of course, under the leadership of President Trump.
	It's been reported that they've spoken.
	I don't comment on those reports or anything like that.
	But right now, it's up to Kevin McCarthy and the MAGA base to work it out.
	But it is undoubtedly troubling and undoubtedly unfortunate for Leader McCarthy.
	And again, underscores what kind of a backstabber Liz Cheney is.
	Alright, so my reaction, you're absolutely right.
	It's on brand for her.
	This is the kind of slimeball she is.
	For me, the most important thing about that call with regards to McCarthy is he just sounds weak he doesn't sound like a leader you know nothing in that discussion is forthright is determined it's like vacillating it's kind of questions his his qualifications for being a potential speaker of the house and this is what i tweeted this morning when i heard that tape i treated the following
	I know that if we win the Senate and the House, because these are prerequisites to stop a future impeachment, if we win the Senate and the House this year, President Trump is running.
	You know that, I know that, the important people inside the machine know it.
	If he runs, he will beat, whether it's Sleepy Joe, Kamala the cackler or Hillary or boot edge edge he will beat them.
	At that point it is untenable given that recording for Kevin McCarthy to be the speaker when there is a second Trump administration.
	What do you think of my statement?
	So I think what you are saying definitely represents where a huge amount of the base is.
	And I think right now it's up to Kevin McCarthy to prove us wrong and to prove that it's different.
	And to show that he is able to withstand attacks from rhinos.
	We're able to withstand attacks from Democrats.
	I think it's, you know, this definitely puts a ton of pressure on Kevin McCarthy.
	Is it determinative?
	You know, I'm not sure that anything in politics is determinative except for the fact that President Trump is the unquestionable, undisputed leader of the Republican Party, of MAGA, and that is the case for years and years to come, through our big wins in 22, and historic win in 24, where we both hope President Trump wins and walks back into the White House In January of 2025 at the latest.
	I believe that, again, there's got to be sort of a little bit of a coming, you know, a heart-to-heart, in a way, between Leader McCarthy and the MAGA base, represented by President Trump, but also the base as a whole, you know, the movement.
	And it's incumbent upon him to make sure that the movement trusts what is behind it, because that's the only way that he could be successful as Speaker.
	Is that going to happen?
	No one's sure, and only time will tell.
	This is no joke.
	January 6th was a trial run.
	And a lot of people don't seem to understand that.
	all the social media platforms let's stay with the theme of their obsession january 6 this is aoc cut 14 this is no joke january 6th was a trial run and a lot of people don't seem to understand that it was a trial run and they're going to come back and And they win the House.
	Here's the thing, the technicality of what happened on January 6th.
	The only reason it wasn't worse was because Democrats had the House and they didn't have the votes in the House.
	If they take the House, then they have the votes to not authorize and legitimize the presidential election, whatever the results are.
	Is this all they have, Baron?
	Is this January 6th, January 6th, January 6th?
	Is this all they're going to campaign on for the next seven months?
	Oh yeah, that's all they have.
	No doubt about it.
	They have nothing else.
	The economy is in the toilet.
	There's no southern border.
	We're in a disaster in Ukraine.
	Afghanistan was an unmitigated debacle.
	The Democrats have marginalized themselves, and we've been talking about this for years, Sebastian, right?
	They've marginalized themselves continuously to where now nobody respects them, nobody cares about them, and all they stand for apparently is, you know, boys and women's swimming teams and nonsense.
	99.9% of Americans have complete disdain for.
	So that's what they are.
	Now they're screaming, oh, January 6th, January 6th.
	And I will tell you, to go back to the tape, the disappointing thing again about the tape is, to your point, is that even the Republicans were freaked out so much that they didn't see the truth from the falsehood.
	That's the sad truth.
	That's what we always get from the Baron.
	Have a fabulous weekend.
	Happy Shabbos.
	And I want to see those photographs of those large cigars.
	This is America First.
	next national security thank you buddy Thank you.
	Hey, brother.
	Can you hear me?
	Yeah.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Thanks.
	Listen, I'll text you.
	I had to, um... There's a... ...to my Batcave.
	Oh, my God.
	Cool, man.
	Oh, you got all your little trinkets and stuff?
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Some of them.
	Look at this.
	Oh, my God.
	This is like a... Like a TV studio.
	HDTV.
	All right.
	What was it before?
	This was part of townhall.com's writing staff.
	So they have a long office of cubicles and then we just cut it up.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Convener is maxed up in here now.
	You have to go.
	No, I've got my studio at home.
	Oh, is that you do it from home?
	Yeah, I do that from my basement.
	Oh, wow.
	And then we're going to have a news team do the news over there on that side.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	Every time I turn up over there, I see Jim Carrafone on the screen.
	Well, not every time, but frequently.
	How you doing?
	Worst, good for business.
	Good, good.
	We had Trump last night.
	I know!
	Yeah, it was great.
	I played it.
	I opened the show with it.
	Yeah, it was nice.
	Where was it?
	It was in California.
	No, it was in Amelia Island in Georgia.
	It was good.
	Oh, good.
	It was in fine form.
	Lord Trumpian.
	So, it was good.
	Kevin's doing great.
	Oh, yeah.
	Just rocking and rolling.
	It's really good.
	Can you play me Cut 2?
	Mr. McCarthy and his office have denied that he said he was going to call Trump and tell him to resign.
	You have it on tape.
	We just heard that he in fact said that.
	He's also today denied that he called four members of his own caucus, other House Republicans, to have their social media access cut off.
	You've also got that on tape.
	That's correct, and we have a lot more on tape from this period, which is at the highest levels of American politics.
	It is sensitive, it's delicate, and it's high stakes, and we have it all on tape.
	All right.
	You've got some B-roll of Ukraine, right?
	Okay, good.
	good.
	Kevin McCarthy cancels himself, question mark.
	Look, I can see from there.
	He's...
	What?
	Just maybe raise it a bit.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
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	He's admiring my toys in my new studio.
	He is the man who, when he's not on my TV screen over there, in studio at Fox, he's at the Heritage Foundation as Vice President, or in my studio, he's Colonel Jim Carafano, Vice President of the Concerted Mothership.
	Jim, happy Friday.
	You know, a martini shaken, not stirred, and... Well, I've got the Aston Martin down here, so the Aston Martin's down there.
	Okay, well, next time, next time.
	We'll make sure.
	As long as you bring me a McDonald's apple pie, I'll bring the martinis.
	They go so well together.
	All right, let's get serious.
	I caught a little bit of what you said today really Fabulous military strategic analysis of what's going on around Mariupol, the eternal siege tactics.
	Let's start with why Mariupol is so important for Russia and Ukraine.
	This is how maps really matter, really come in handy.
	Because if you look at this, first of all, when you look at the map, how it's changed since the beginning, right?
	So remember, there was all this red stuff up on top.
	So this was the Russian effort really to take over the whole country.
	Yeah, with forces from Belarus, targeting Kiev.
	So now all that's yellow.
	And what does that mean?
	It means that for the Russians, even though that's a military setback, It's a military opportunity because they can consolidate all their efforts, right?
	Only one line of logistics.
	You don't need multiple lines of logistics.
	You're not trying to feed people all over the place.
	You're all in one place.
	You can concentrate your forces.
	And if you look at the band, it's in the south and the east.
	And what do you see in that kind of band of red that's in the south and the east?
	There's this dot right in the middle, and that's Mariupol.
	So taking Mariupol essentially unites the occupied portions of Ukraine and allows the Russians really to move forces freely one way or another.
	It consolidates their control.
	And so it's a significant military advantage.
	And the most fascinating part of what I saw you say earlier is how the whole geography and the geopolitics of Ukraine changes if they secure Mariupol completely, including the steelworks, and then move over to the west to Odessa.
	Then Ukraine, this massive bread basket that relies upon exporting its food product, its fertilizer, all across the globe, suddenly is a landlocked nation, Jim.
	Right.
	So if you, again, if you look at the map, there's this red crescent that comes down, and then there's a little portion at the end, which is yellow, and then the big dot you see in the middle there, that's Odessa.
	So Odessa is really the last Major seaport that Ukraine still holds.
	And if they go across and they cut that off, then essentially you've blocked Ukraine out of the Black Sea.
	And Ukraine is no longer a maritime nation.
	So if you think of all the things that you move by sea, grains typically one of them, that completely changes the nature of the Ukrainian economy and the kind of country it is.
	So that's a big deal.
	The Ukrainians will fight hard to keep that access to the Black Sea.
	But do they have what it takes to be effective?
	So, I was guest hosting a show on Newsmax, so I have my Sunday night show, but on Tuesday I was hosting Rob Schmidt's show, and we had VDH on, we had Victor Davis Hanson, and I said, from your analysis, what do they need?
	I suggested several relatively new NATO nations have Soviet-era air defense equipment that Ukrainians are familiar with, that could be shipped.
	And he said, and I thought of you immediately because of your history in the artillery, he said, no, no, they need all of that stuff, but they need heavy artillery.
	What is it going to take for Odessa to be kept from the Russian occupiers?
	So there's a couple of things going on.
	I mean, this is the stuff movies are made of.
	The most consequential moments in the choices that the Ukrainians make are in right now.
	Since the initial invasion and saving the capital of Kyiv, because they have to decide where do they go from here?
	They know where the Russians are coming.
	They know what the Russians' objectives are.
	The question is, what do they do?
	Do they counterattack?
	Do they defend?
	Where do they defend?
	Where do they take risk?
	And so those very consequential decisions are being made now.
	But also, there's this race of, there is a flood of new equipment because our follower-in-chief, who has essentially waited, and then the United States weighs in when it's very clear that Ukraine's not collapsing and Russia's not gonna start World War III, and now we're starting to send the heavy equipment that they really need.
	How soon can you get that equipment there?
	How soon can you get people trained on it?
	The logistics that goes with that, all of this doesn't happen like, you know, beaming down on Star Trek.
	Right.
	And so, for example, one of the things we are providing are heavy howitzers, 155mm howitzers, kind of things I worked on when I was in the military.
	Those, you know, even an artillery piece is an artillery piece, but there's Even if you're a trained artilleryman, if you've never trained on a particular rocket, that takes time.
	So this is the point that was made to me by a good friend of mine from my former unit in the UK, best Sovietologist I know, who said, look, nobody should be giving them stuff they haven't fielded before.
	Give them stuff.
	Increase their capacity by giving them more of the stuff they know how to use.
	Is that smart?
	Well, that's why, of course, that's why the S-300, because that's a system they're familiar with.
	The other thing that does help is these drones.
	I actually wrote an article on this in Defense where I talked about eSports, which is...
	So people don't follow this, so eSports are electronic sports, and one of the most common ones is drone races.
	And there's an amazing technology, but one of the things you see that's incredible is this is a talent that can be learned.
	And so using these killer drones, for example, like the Switchblades, those are skills that if you actually know how to fly drones, you're talking hours, not days or weeks or months.
	So there are some of those kinds of capabilities, which are actually pretty easy to train on, which can make a big difference.
	And we've seen that as well.
	But this is the race, right?
	You've got to make the decisions, get the stuff to the front, integrate it into the forces, do these operations.
	It's, I would say, a perilous time, because I don't think there's a scenario where Russia goes on the offensive and has great... But what the final shape of this phase of the conflicts look like, that's going to get decided in the near future.
	And you've got that, the refugees, hostages being taken by the Russians, continued attacks on the civilians.
	All the things Putin is kind of massing up to try to pressure.
	If he goes with plan B, it says we're going to have a ceasefire, pressure that in the best terms he can get.
	We're talking to Jim Carrafano, Colonel Carrafano, Dr. Carrafano, Vice President Carrafano, He is on Twitter at JJ Carifano.
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	So they got you going in most days?
	Oh, yeah.
	Heritage, you mean?
	No, no, no.
	Fox.
	Oh, um, well, usually like once or twice a week.
	They kind of, you know, they rotate people through and stuff.
	But, you know, you got a lot of things, a lot of time to fill, so.
	You see all the old dead people coming out.
	Yeah.
	Um.
	A variable quality.
	Older, blonde, Rebecca something.
	Never heard of her.
	There's a new Fox contributor for national security who I'd never heard of.
	Ever.
	And I thought, I've been in this city for 14 years, and sorry, you're-- - What was her name?
	- No.
	- Older, blonde, Rebecca something, never heard of her, ever.
	- Grant?
	- And she had no affiliation.
	She was just Fox National Security Contributor, like not former DIA or whatever.
	No idea.
	Yeah, the only ones I know are Rebecca Grant and Rebecca Heinrichs.
	Oh yeah, I know Rebecca Heinrichs.
	Who's Rebecca Grant?
	She used to work at CSBA.
	She's kind of mousy, kind of older.
	Not blonde, she's more of a redhead really.
	She does Fox occasionally, but she's not a contributor, I don't think.
	Yeah, this was a contributor, that's why I was like, sorry.
	Like, who?
	Never heard of her.
	Whatever.
	Oh, man.
	Amen.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, the Border stuff's just crazy.
	We had Tom and Mark down.
	Is it Tom with Heritage now?
	Yeah.
	Good.
	And Pence is still with Heritage.
	I actually didn't know that.
	Well, you know, Tom's been with us a couple months.
	It's great.
	You know, anytime you put him and Mark together, they just feed off each other and they just kind of spin out of control.
	It's just kind of a joy to watch.
	And we had Cuccinelli.
	He was good.
	We had him on.
	Yeah, Ken's great.
	You know, we had Ken for a while.
	I just, I mean, I, I mean, I had Ken and one time I had Ken, Chad and Mark.
	And then Ken left and then Chad left.
	And then I have Mark and Tom, which is, they're both great though.
	And they're easy to work with.
	Tom was, like, heckling Trump last night.
	Not heckling.
	He was like, yeah!
	How long did he speak for?
	Sorry?
	90 minutes?
	Yeah, you could tell he had the teleprompter, and you could tell he was reading off the teleprompter for about five minutes, and then it was... Oh, really?
	Yeah, then he just kind of started talking about whatever.
	He had some great lines.
	One great message.
	He goes, everybody thought I was easy on Putin.
	Except... Oh, that's good.
	That's a good line.
	That is a good line.
	And true as well.
	Yeah.
	And some other good ones too.
	He was funny.
	Yeah, that was great.
	Definitely... Definitely people... Really comfortable with him.
	You know, he's still got...
	That was almost like a Trump crowd.
	It was just interesting.
	Did he just speak and go?
	No, he just spoke and left.
	He took pictures.
	He posed for pictures of people for about 30 minutes beforehand.
	All right, 20 seconds.
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	In the last seven weeks, so Sun Tzu, Clausewitz tell us, you know, there is an unchanging character of war, but its shape and the way it is waged can change.
	How much of the last seven weeks changed the mode of modern war?
	Two obvious things are being said.
	Every rifleman is now going to be carrying one anti-tank weapon because it's a great equalizer.
	And what you mentioned in the last segment, the incredible utility of even over-the-counter drones.
	Is this just a flash in the pan or what have we learned in the last seven weeks, Jim?
	Well, you know, to me the most interesting thing is You know, we all fixate on new weapons and does this weapon change work, but typically what we see, because every weapon has advantages and disadvantages, uses and limitations, so the concept that really emerged early on in modern European warfare, and even in ancient Chinese warfare, in Sun Tzu, which is called combined arms.
	And the idea of combining arms, as a matter of fact, Patton had this wonderful, he goes, a military is a musician of Mars.
	Think of the different arms as all the pieces of the orchestra.
	And there's a conductor.
	And it's how you skillfully integrate them together that creates the maximum ability to impose your will on the enemy.
	Because if you put them together, you compensate for the weaknesses and advantages of the different kinds of systems.
	This is why the Russians, who have far more powerful tanks, are getting whacked, because those tanks are not going in in a way in which they're supported and protected from anti-tank weapons.
	Nothing's more intimidating than a tank.
	But by itself, it's a big target.
	But by itself, it's a big target.
	It's a big lumbering target, right?
	It's a big lumbering target, right?
	Particularly if you have any tank weapons.
	Particularly if you have anti-tank weapons.
	And this is exactly what we saw happen in battlefields in World War II, when tanks went in unsupported.
	And this is exactly what we saw happen in battlefields in World War II when tanks went in unsupported.
	So it hasn't changed.
	So it hasn't changed.
	So it's the ability to organize this that really, really does make a huge difference.
	So it's the ability to organize this that really, really does make a huge difference.
	And I'll give you an example.
	Part of it is things seen and unseen.
	So one of the things the Russians haven't been very good at is seeing over the horizon.
	Like, what's beyond?
	And the things the Ukrainians have been really good.
	It's called intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance.
	Information that you get, things that you see, and things that you go out and look for.
	And you combine all that together and then being able to find the targets and to kill them at the most effective time and place.
	And so, for example, one of the things that the Ukrainians did was they basically told the entire population of Ukraine what a Russian command and control vehicle looked like.
	And they said, if you see this thing, you know, get a phone.
	It's the old tables that we had to learn.
	The silhouette of the Soviet command vehicle.
	If you see that, Call me!
	Take it out!
	You have Pony Express, you know, get on your cell phone, take a selfie or whatever, but tell us where those things are because those things we want to kill.
	So that, I think, is really an enduring feature of war.
	Training, you know, I don't care how good a plane you have.
	The pacing item on how effective that aircraft is, is the quality of the pilot.
	So you look at the hours of Russian training, for pilot training, and how low they are, and that explains everything why they find it difficult to penetrate even a third class air defense.
	And before people get all cocky about this, The flight hours that American pilots get, it's not much better.
	Actually, it's not any better than what the Russians get.
	Last question, got less than a minute left.
	The old saw, the old cliche, I think, has been proven true again, is it not?
	Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics, because the Russian logistics has been a disaster.
	Well, and you never get a flavor for this, right?
	You watch movies and, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger never runs out of bullets, right?
	Never runs out.
	And you never, like, where does the gas come from, all this stuff?
	And the reality is, you know, somebody who did this for 25 years, is you've got to get the food and the bowls and the bits right to the right place at the right time to do the right thing.
	And that is a huge part of work, is an army cannot fight without weapons.
	But, you know, an army cannot fight if it's not trained.
	To me, the most defining moment of this war was they talked about frostbite.
	Frostbite is a leadership and a discipline issue.
	It is not guys don't have boots and dry socks.
	So when you hear this mass frostbite in the military, it means you have a poorly trained military with not good non-commissioned options.
	Not good lack of leadership.
	He is the vice president of the Heritage Foundation.
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	We are delighted to have in studio John Lott Jr.
	John, welcome back to America First.
	It's great to talk to you again.
	Thanks for having me on, Seb.
	All right, so you head the organization for crime prevention research.
	It's crimeresearch.org.
	You've written seminal works on the truth about gun crime, who commits crime, what kind of weapons they do it with.
	I have to ask you, given the title of your new book, Gun Control Myths, this administration apparently is going after this thing this category of ghost guns, which is as spurious a term as assault weapons.
	What are they referring to, and how often are these types of weapons actually used in crime, John?
	Sure.
	Well, it's just another scarier name, I guess, for homemade guns.
	Americans have been making guns at home since before we were a country.
	And you know, part of the problem with this is that he doesn't even mention that we already have laws that deal with these things.
	If you make a gun at home and you sell it to anybody else or transfer it or give it to somebody else, that's a felony, punishable by five years in prison.
	Because a transfer has to go through a licensed dealer, correct?
	Well, the thing is with these homemade guns, they don't have a serial number on them.
	So the only person who can use them is the person who made it, correct?
	That's exactly right.
	That's exactly right.
	You know, so what they want to do now, all these new regulations that Biden announced a week ago, They want to have a serial number on all sorts of different parts of the gun before it was on the firing mechanism and what they call the lower receiver that would receive the magazine.
	But, you know, you have all sorts of different parts of the gun, the barrel, the shroud, the stock, everything there.
	And it's just going to make a huge paperwork mess and produce really no benefit.
	But hang on, as a gun owner myself, this law is insane because we have literally millions and millions of weapons out there in America
	that people didn't make they bought that have the serialization on the frame and only the frame how will we suddenly what we're not going to re-serialize the barrel of a shotgun so again this is a pointless activity is it not?
	Look, putting serial numbers on The thing is, in real life, that's not what happens.
	thing to solve crimes.
	You know, in theory, if a criminal uses a gun in a crime and they leave it at the crime scene and it has a serial number on it, and he's the one who went through a licensed dealer to originally buy it legally, then it's possible to go and track the gun back to the person that committed then it's possible to go and track the gun back to the The thing is, in real life, that's not what happens.
	It may happen on TV shows, but in real life, one, crime guns are virtually never left at the crime scene.
	They And the few times that they are left at the crime scene, it's usually because the criminal's been killed or seriously wounded, so you're gonna catch them anyway.
	And the couple times that they are left at the crime scene and the criminal's not been killed or wounded, he didn't legally buy the gun through a licensed dealer to begin with.
	Okay, let's stop there.
	Let's stop there.
	That's like a key question and I don't know if you have the figures at your fingertips.
	So is there a percentage?
	Is there a proportion?
	Can you tell me how often Does a gun crime occur in which the legal owner of that weapon commits the crime in contrast to people who are banned from having a weapon because they're a felon or they stole the weapon?
	What is the proportion between a legally owned firearm being used by its owner in the commission of a firearm offense?
	Right.
	Well, there's different types of way we can get at that.
	You can look at things like concealed carry permit holders, which we have data on, and what you find, they lose their permits for any type of firearms related offense at about 1,000th of one percentage point.
	So it's very tiny rate that you're talking about there.
	If you're just talking about something like murders generally, I would mention that about 90% of adult murderers have an adult violent criminal history that's there.
	So the types of people who go and commit serious crimes like murder already overwhelmingly have violent criminal histories.
	They're not your normal person in many different ways.
	And, you know, concealed care permit holders is probably the best data that we have.
	But it's let me put this way.
	Police are convicted of firearms related violations at about 1 20th the rate of the general population.
	And concealed carry permit holders are convicted of firearms-related violations at less than one-twelfth the rate of police officers.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's an incredible statistic.
	Okay.
	We're almost out of time.
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	Every Democrat administration in recent history has been a threat to the Second Amendment and to lawful gun owners.
	Is this administration worse than most, or is it just a standard, another Democrat anti-gun administration?
	Well, they're getting worse and worse over time.
	I mean, the types of rules that Biden's putting forward, like his zero tolerance policy on paperwork mistakes, Basically means that any gun seller that makes a mistake, let's say over the last 15 years, just one mistake, no matter how trivial, no matter how inconsequential, they're going to put them out of business.
	Yeah.
	And this type of having serial numbers on all the different parts of the gun is just going to try to make their paperwork lives much worse.
	Yeah.
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	This is Little Fascist Fauci on President Trump.
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	With the divisiveness during the Trump administration, it was no secret that I had to do something that was not pleasant and not comfortable, and I didn't desire it, was I had to be publicly correcting misrepresentation on the part of the president and on the part of people in the administration.
	You know, the people who were talking about hydroxychloroquine and about ivermectin and about that the virus is going to go away and it's going to disappear.
	I had to maintain my own integrity as well as my responsibility to the public to tell them the truth.
	That clearly alienated a lot of people.
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	Roy, welcome to America First.
	I wanted to ask you about Elon Musk and Twitter and 2 Social and the First Amendment, but on Second Amendment Friday, I want to give a shout out to my mom, the immediate past president of National Rifle Association, Carolyn Meadows.
	God, I'm 60 years old and I'm still bragging on my mom.
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	That's fine.
	Give me quickly, what was your question going to be about Musk and Twitter?
	Well, obviously it's having an impact on our First Amendment.
	Truth Social's coming on board there, and gosh, it seems like that thing's on fire on Truth Social.
	I'm on board there, but where do you see it going with Musk?
	You know, it's impossible to tell.
	Lots of rumblings in Wall Street.
	Lots of people who may be getting on board, helping Musk to make an even better deal.
	If they refuse him, the existing shareholders can sue the board.
	The board owns less than 11%.
	I don't know what's going to happen.
	I know he's a disrupter.
	He's got some problematic relationships with Communist China.
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	What a week it's been.
	Whilst a five-foot white bunny rabbit scared the current incumbent of the White House, apparently he told his former boss, Obama, yeah, he'll be running in 2024.
	And just a day later, what happened?
	Bernie Sanders!
	He came out of the graveyard, and like a zombie you can't get rid of, he says, I just might run as well.
	If you add Hillary reopening the Clinton Global Initiatives Foundation, it might just be a very, very full field on the Democrat side.
	What does it mean for the good guys?
	What does it mean for Republicans?
	We have, returning to America First one-on-one, she is the Director of Policy at the Conservative Partnership Institute, Rachel Bovard.
	Welcome in studio.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	It's great to see you.
	So, it feels like an old movie.
	It feels like the Democrat redux, the re... What is the phrase they like?
	The re-imaging?
	The re-imaging of the Democrat Party with less re than anything else.
	Do you give any credit, let's start with the opposition, to any of these?
	The idea that a man who has to be led off by a five-foot bunny is going to run in 2024, or Bernie's back, Is this just a fantasy?
	I mean, this is rule by the gerontocracy at this point, is what we're dealing with.
	And, you know, it's part and parcel of what's wrong with our politics to begin with, is that we don't have any new blood.
	We have no fresh ideas.
	We just have the same has-beens running over and over and over.
	And, to top it off, these are people who have spent their careers in Washington, D.C., so they're not going to be the avatars of creative thinking.
	For me, and you tell me if this makes sense to you as somebody who's worked on Capitol Hill and now working at the CPI.
	The choice of a machine politician from Delaware who's been in politics for 47 years, that choice back in 2015 wasn't well thought out.
	It wasn't part of some master conspiracy with Obama in a basement talking through an earpiece to Biden.
	This was the lazy choice.
	This was like the de facto, oh, we don't want Bernie.
	Hillary's out of the question.
	Yeah, let's go with what's-his-name Joe.
	It seemed lazy and also a function of identity politics.
	The idea that he chooses his running mate, a woman who got less than 2% in the Democrat primaries, who is now poised to become the president if he removes himself.
	This isn't very strategic, is it?
	No, it wasn't well thought out for two reasons.
	I think the first that you point out, it's lazy, but it also felt kind of frantic to some extent.
	When you point out Bernie was surging and they were like, we absolutely cannot have this, right?
	We cannot have someone who's going to disrupt the establishment.
	So it was almost this like immediate regression to the mean.
	Let's find the most establishment creature we can and the most predictable creature we can push him up front.
	We know we'll put the woman, uh, the black woman next to him and it'll be fine.
	Let's stop there for a second.
	And what they didn't account for, I think, is how much the country has changed and how much the expectations of our politicians have changed to the extent that Kamala Harris is like the least popular politician I think the world has ever seen. - Let's stop there for a second.
	Let's unpack that sentence 'cause I think it's correct.
	But let's put some some meat on the bone there.
	How much the country has changed.
	Talk to us about one or two of those big changes that you think the DNC and maybe the RNC haven't noticed.
	Well, I think, you know, for a long time there was an accepted elite consensus in Washington.
	And this goes by many names, right?
	It goes by the swamp, it goes by neoliberalism, it goes by whatever it is that you want to call it.
	The uniparty.
	The uniparty.
	Matt Bannon's uniparty.
	Right.
	And I think that, you know, for a long time, that was acceptable to voters, you know, for many reasons.
	You can point to the fact that politics wasn't people's entire lives at that point, right?
	So they were willing to sort of ignore what was going on.
	And I think that there's a very established way of doing things in Washington that still thinks that's acceptable, that still thinks that resonates.
	Because these people haven't left Washington in 35 years.
	They have no idea.
	They have no idea.
	So this is one of my biggest problems with the GOP, and we're going to talk about the GOP in a moment.
	That a large chunk of the establishment Republican Party, to this day, five and a half years later, don't understand how a non-politician who'd never been a governor, never been a senator, never been a general, for the first time in our history, elected one of those never been a general, for the first time in our history, Is that an overstatement?
	No, I mean, I think there's people that still to this day do not understand it.
	And this has been a process on the right in particular.
	This has been a process of intentional and willful disregard for big changes that were happening in the Republican base.
	I go all the way back to the Tea Party as the first shot across the bow.
	You know, in 2008, 2010, that was my...
	political upbringing in many cases.
	You know, that was the first shot across the bow that something, there was a disconnect, a growing disconnect between the representatives in Washington and the base on the ground.
	And then the Tea Party kind of disappeared or fizzled out.
	It got co-opted, I think, by a lot of establishment interests.
	But didn't the Trump-MAGA-America First phenomena, is it fair to say that was built on the rubble of the Tea Party?
	I think that's right, because again, it goes back to this idea that it was this growing disconnect that wasn't addressed.
	Because people tried to make the Tea Party about a lot of things it wasn't.
	You know, they said, oh, it's only about deficit spending.
	Well, in part it was.
	But it was also about the massive amnesty that Republicans and Democrats were trying to pass.
	It was about Obamacare and the government taking over all of your choices.
	And there was a lot of interest in Washington in not addressing those things, right, and simply co-opting the energy into whatever The uniparty wanted it to be.
	So I think by the time we got to Trump, it was the voters saying simply, like, we shot a bullet across the bow, now we're sending you a missile because you have not heard us.
	And I think in that intervening time, you know, things got even worse to the point that I think voters very much recognized in Donald Trump a disruptor.
	And someone who, in many cases, when you look at even just, you know, his positions on trade for how many years he held those positions.
	Decades.
	Yeah, decades, that we're going to disrupt, I think, a very big chunk of the elite consensus.
	I think it's likely, if we have reasonably fair elections, that the Senate and the House will be in GOP hands.
	That's the only precondition of President Trump running again, because he can't be impeached day one of his second term.
	So, as far as I'm concerned, if the midterms go well for Republicans, President Trump is running and he will win.
	Let's leave that up to the voters.
	But is it possible?
	I mean, of all these scenarios, what is the most likely?
	I don't believe Biden can run again.
	I think, for various reasons, the DNC will not.
	I mean, he said on that interview, they asked him, what happens if you have a disagreement with Kamala?
	And he actually says on camera, I'll do what I said I would do with Obama, that if we have a policy, a disagreement, I'll come up with an ailment.
	He actually said that.
	I'll come up with an ailment and I'll resign.
	Well he's already put that out there so he could come up with an ailment in the next three years and just remove himself.
	So who's it going to be in three years?
	Is it going to be Kamala?
	Is it going to be Bernie?
	Is it going to be Hillary?
	Or is it going to be Pete?
	What are you putting your money on?
	I do not think Joe Biden makes it through this term.
	And I'm not saying that I wish any ill toward him.
	The DNC won't permit it.
	Correct.
	But I also think you're seeing it already.
	He's being disavowed across the establishment.
	So at that point, I think Kamala Harris runs.
	Because they can't get rid of it.
	They can't get rid of a black woman.
	They're stuck.
	They're stuck with it.
	And I think they're stuck with Mayor Pete, too.
	And between the two of them, they were two of the most unlikable candidates.
	So is he going to be Khabib?
	That's fascinating.
	I also have this weird theory that Mitt Romney's trying to position himself for that job, but we'll see.
	On the Democrat side?
	Yeah.
	That would be rather poetic, indeed.
	All right, we're talking to Rachel Bovard.
	You've got to follow her right now on Twitter.
	Policy Director for the Conservative Partnership Institute.
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	Rachel, you're a frequent contributor at The Federalist, I believe.
	And you write on Senate congressional procedure, given your expertise on the Hill.
	And then your big bugbear is, of course, a big tech story.
	Super exciting to watch what's happening with Elon Musk and Twitter.
	Let's listen to a little cut from what he said last week about why he's doing what he's doing.
	My strong intuitive sense is that having a public platform that is maximally trusted and broadly inclusive is extremely important to the future of civilization.
	I don't care about the economics at all.
	It sounds like this is a man who wants more freedom of speech.
	I don't think He's a classic conservative.
	I think if you look at the posts he's made in the last six months, he's politically wakening up.
	Maybe a libertarian of sorts.
	Talk to us about your analysis of the reaction of big tech to all of this.
	I had Alex Marlow on my show saying, can't trust this guy.
	He's doing work with communist China.
	He has all kinds of NDAs with people who work for him at Tesla.
	Not really a free speech guy.
	Alex might be right, but for me, they're really worried in Palo Alto.
	Why are they so worried, Rachel?
	So I think Elon Musk has honed in on something particular and unique to Twitter, which if you consider Twitter in the ecosystem of big tech, it is actually quite small compared to Google, compared to Facebook.
	Those are the behemoths.
	Twitter is pretty small.
	Small in the sense of what?
	They don't make any money?
	Or small in the sense of how much information they process?
	Because nobody's close to Google, right?
	No, they don't make that.
	They're notoriously bad at making money.
	How do they not make money?
	Can we just stop there for a second?
	How does the biggest mini-blog, micro-blog site in the world not make money?
	They haven't really monetized the platform in a way, and in part I support this, right, because they don't track you in the way that Google and Facebook do, but they also just haven't, you know, remember they banned political advertising, you know, they've taken these very woke stands on things, which, you know, we know hurts the bottom line.
	But in reality, they're quite small, but what Twitter has that the other two platforms don't is this outsized control of elite narrative formation.
	It is where the cable news media talks to each other.
	It is where news stories begin and end.
	And it's where reporters think the real world is.
	Right.
	So the Washington Post doesn't actually do reporting.
	They go and check on Twitter.
	But it's a huge... Compared to Twitter's size, that influence that it has is massive because it controls, in many ways, the national conversation, the national discourse.
	So it is, you know, there's a lot of people that say, well, why do we care about Twitter?
	It's not that big.
	Well, no, no.
	Twitter's impact on how we consume the news, how our news is framed, What kind of information gets transmitted is massive, and I think Elon Musk has picked up on that.
	Because in that clip, he talks about, you know, having this kind of free speech is really important, and he says, I don't care about the economics at all.
	He actually says that at the end.
	He says that, you know, I'm not in it to make money, which is quite stunning for a guy who's the richest man in the world.
	Right.
	Well, he can say that, right?
	There's probably no one else that can say it.
	No, but when you're dropping $42 billion on the table, $50 billion of which is yours, He's in it for principle.
	But do you trust him?
	That's the question.
	Do you think he's in it for the principle?
	Because people say, well, he offered at a below market rate.
	It's not serious.
	The offer he made was, you know, marijuana day.
	He's just having fun.
	He's just trolling Twitter.
	My response is, if you make an offer, they could call your bluff and accept it.
	And that's a pretty expensive practical joke, isn't it?
	I do.
	I get the sense he is in it for the principal.
	Now, I take the position that I don't know if I trust him in the long term.
	I have no data points for this, right?
	I do think he has some very concerning entanglements with the Chinese.
	But he is also, I think, of that breed of Gen X that grew up with this sort of tech exceptionalism.
	This idea that the internet could be the great equalizer.
	That it was a decentralized, community-moderated place.
	Or was supposed to be.
	It was supposed to be.
	And it was in the beginning.
	I grew up in the 90s.
	I kind of remember the internet this way.
	Now it's nothing like that.
	Now it's a series of vertically integrated walled gardens.
	It is completely monetized and it's moderated by these completely woke people in Silicon Valley.
	It's nothing like what it was.
	But I think he really holds on to that nostalgia.
	Already?
	that a lot of people in his generation do.
	And I really do think he wants to infuse Twitter with that.
	Whether or not he'll be successful, I can't say.
	But it's been interesting to me that he stuck with it this far.
	I thought he was going to walk away.
	I thought he was going to dump his shares and walk away when they rejected his offer.
	He hasn't.
	As of today, he's putting together potentially a tender offer.
	And he's secured the financing.
	You don't take those steps if you aren't at least 50% serious.
	And allegedly, there are people in Wall Street who are considering.
	There are investment companies, hedge funds, that are considering going in with Elon to make an even bigger offer.
	So, whatever the final result, this is a significant story, isn't it?
	It's a huge story.
	It's a huge story.
	And the reaction to it, I think, tells you how big of a deal it is.
	Because they, the elite sort of media, mainstream corporate outlets, they recognize how significant this is.
	They have control of this, which means they control the conversation.
	They let other voices in, and it's been so telling, not just in the sense that they've said, we don't want more free speech, or free speech is dangerous.
	You saw, even this week, Matt Iglesias, who is former writer for Vox, now runs a substack, is saying, what we've realized is that there's some people that don't deserve to speak in the public square.
	They're actually saying this out loud, and it's something we all knew, but to hear them say it, I think is just a stunning mask-off.
	Hang on, who said that?
	Form of Fox?
	No, Vox.
	Vox, okay.
	Not to be confused with Fox.
	But it's very clear.
	I mean, if it's your billionaire, if it's the left's billionaire, if it's Bezos, it's okay.
	He can buy the Washington Post.
	He can have this little vanity project of his, but if it's somebody who's not a Republican, Not a Democrat, then that's the real issue.
	The one thing I will say though that I hate about this is that fact.
	Is that we are in a situation where we have to beg billionaires for access to the public sphere.
	We'll talk about what should be happening instead in a moment.
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	It is horrifying.
	Every day we see the latest reports.
	We see the Evidence of war crimes in Crimea.
	We see the foreign minister of Ukraine give interviews in English about Madiupol fundamentally not existing anymore as a city because of what the Russians have done to the civilians there.
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	Not just the fun, meaty stuff of rhetoric and policies.
	You know how the sausage factory works on Capitol Hill.
	Can you give us a letter grade?
	You're the professor now.
	Give us a letter grade.
	And we keep hearing Mitch McConnell's this genius and judge appointments blah blah blah.
	What's the right grade for how the Republican Party understands and uses the tools available to them on Capitol Hill?
	Oh, it's, I mean, a D minus.
	Unfortunately.
	Why?
	Is it ignorance?
	Is it uniparty business as usual?
	Why are they so ineffectual?
	Because it seems as if the old story is right.
	When we're in opposition, we act like we're in opposition.
	When we're in the majority, we act like we're in the opposition still.
	You know, it's really interesting.
	I think it was a trend that really started 10 or 15 years ago under then Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid, and it's been continued, I think, under Mitch McConnell, which in particular in the Senate, where the Senate's built around the rights of the minority party, unlike the House, which is very majoritarian.
	The Senate, every senator has almost equal authority.
	But what began under Reid, continued under McConnell, was this notion that the Senate should be run very top-down, and the thing that they should never do is vote on anything.
	Hang on, explain that.
	Because it was this idea that voting puts vulnerable senators at risk.
	You don't want to make Lisa Murkowski vote on too many pro-life bills.
	You know, that might put her at risk in Alaska.
	And it was this very political mentality, which I think personally has destroyed the Senate.
	Because if you think about it, the Senate between the House and the Senate, the Senate's supposed to be where deliberation takes place.
	And the more the Senate votes, the more information voters have about where people stand.
	You know, you force Democrats into these really difficult postures.
	So when did that start?
	It really started, I think, probably 10 or 15 years ago under Reid.
	And it's been a slow dissent ever since.
	And occasionally you'll see senators push back on this because, you know, even Republicans, and you're in a tied Senate right now, but even when Republicans are in the minority, every senator has the right to demand and receive a vote on whatever they want.
	How many times do you see people use it?
	You don't.
	Hardly at all.
	You don't?
	Every now and then you'll see the Rand Pauls of the world, the Mike Lees of the world, the Ted Cruz's of the world.
	But the social opprobrium from doing that is very difficult.
	Look right now at the tension going on between Mitch McConnell and Senator Rick Scott from Florida.
	Rick Scott put out an agenda.
	He said, this is what we should run on.
	And there's a lot you can agree or disagree with.
	But he had ideas.
	After McConnell was like, we're going to have no agenda.
	We're going to run on how bad the Democrats are.
	The fact that Rick Scott had an independent thought is the most offensive thing that Mitch McConnell has experienced in the last year.
	And you're just seeing them butt heads over it.
	They don't like independent thinkers.
	And what about the House?
	We have these regular, we call them America First, strategy sessions in studio with Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	And Matt talked about his vision.
	If we trounce the Democrats in the midterms, he wants every committee of the House to become an investigatory committee issuing subpoenas.
	I don't think it is.
	And even more than that, I would say the January 6th Select Committee has been a stain on the House.
	But what it's also done is it's shown how powerful select committees are.
	The precedent Democrats have created here is stunning.
	And a precedent that's dangerous for them.
	It is.
	If it's turned on them, if Republicans take that precedent, that here too far didn't exist, and they turn it on Democrats, Democrats are in for a world of pain.
	But would this GOP get serious about oversight?
	That's the question.
	Isn't it?
	That's the big one.
	And I don't know.
	She's not going to answer it.
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	Let's start with the one that I ask every member of Congress and the only senator I allow on this show who is Marsha Blackburn because she's more of a citizen than a politician.
	All the others think they're going to be future presidents.
	It is.
	I can't abide it.
	It's like every single one thinks they're the future president.
	No, you arrogant little person with no charisma.
	You're never going to be president.
	The only one who doesn't is Mike Lee because he wants to be on Supreme Court.
	There you go.
	One exception.
	And Marsha, who's great.
	The big picture for me is the following.
	The GOP and the Democrats really still don't know what happened in 2015-2016.
	Donald Trump was this iconoclastic character who really didn't even have an ideology that you can squish into a standard taxonomy.
	He's not neoliberal, paleocon.
	He's just a guy who loves America, wants to shut the border and get government out of the way.
	Very, very simple.
	It's not a deep theoretical analysis of political science.
	Since then, we've had this kind of Tea Party morphing into MAGA candidates, MAGA politicians, the ones who come on this show, the people who believe in America First, the blue-collar Democrats that voted for Reagan.
	We see a new generation of them.
	Where is the party today?
	Where is our party, Rachel?
	In the Cold War, in national security, my former field, we have this phrase, the correlation of forces or the balance of power.
	As you looked at the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact and NATO in America, who is more powerful?
	That was what you measured every single year.
	What is the correlation of forces?
	What is the balance of power today on our side of the aisle?
	When you look at the establishment party, you look at the rhinos, the never-Trumpers, the go-along-to-get-alongs, the Mitch McConnells, the Paul Ryan leftovers.
	How is their power relationship with MAGA and America First?
	Because it seems very fluid and we don't have that same structure of opposition leader here that we do in parliamentary systems.
	So where do you see the trend going and who's winning?
	I think this is a tension within the Republican Party that plays out every single day in Washington.
	I do think there is a strong contention in Washington that doesn't represent the country, but very strong here in D.C.
	that wishes Donald Trump never happened, that is actively trying to put every force he unleashed back into the box and make it go away.
	Or just ignore it.
	And pretend it never happened.
	Right.
	Wish it away.
	Wish casting in some ways.
	But the base of the party is not there.
	I think the base of the Republican Party is far more skeptical of previous alliances within our domestic sphere than it's ever been.
	They are skeptical of the free market as it's been wielded against them.
	and captured by a certain ideology.
	You know, we talk about the financial sector, cutting people off from their banks.
	Like this is not the free market that we grew up in.
	How do we get it back to neutral?
	They are skeptical of concentrated power inside and outside of the government, not just within the government itself, but from Google, right?
	Aligning with China.
	How is that helpful?
	They are far more aware, I think, of the forces that are impacting them that are outside of their control that have very much been influenced by the policy choices made here in Washington.
	So that split I talked about between the base and the leadership of the party I think still exists.
	But it's not a secret anymore.
	It is very, very much in the open.
	And I think people are paying more attention to politics than they've ever been because they have to.
	So it's clear that everything is politicized today from traveling on a plane to what your children are learning in school.
	And that idea that we have a base that is more cognizant of that politicization is clearly obvious.
	But when it comes to this city, if you take a snapshot What is the GOP today?
	Who's running it?
	Who's gaining control?
	And who's losing control?
	Is it even possible to say?
	Or do we have to wait until the midterms?
	I think the midterms will give us a lot of instruction.
	I think the Republican leadership in both the House and the Senate is not nearly prepared to lead us through this moment and that is my very frank assessment.
	I think there are members of Congress who very much understand the nature of the threat and you are seeing them I think be supported in that, right?
	Look at someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who the establishment hates.
	And I always think who the establishment hates is a very instructive object lesson.
	They hate her, they have tried to strip her of every possible power mechanism in Washington, and yet she is out raising every member of Congress almost because the base of the party, she's resonating What she's fighting for resonates with them.
	They feel like they are being represented.
	So I think there are members of Congress that definitely understand this.
	The leadership, the structure that's been in Washington is just, we talk about rule of gerontocracy, it's right there.
	It's like the Politburo in the 1980s.
	And they're very attached to their ways of doing things, but I do think that they are under threat in a way they haven't been.
	And I think, you know, the House dynamic, if Republicans take back the House, that's going to be a very interesting thing to watch, that dynamic between the House Freedom Caucus and Kevin McCarthy, if he's elevated into the speakership.
	And allegedly he does talk to them and wants some advice from them, so we'll see whether that changes after the midterms.
	Okay, let's...
	Admit something that perhaps we don't want to admit.
	You and I eat, sleep and drink politics.
	We love it, even though it's filthy business.
	However, most elections aren't won on the right or the left.
	They're won in the middle, where somebody who has no political identity decides to vote for a certain party at the day of the election.
	So the floating voter, pocketbooks and everything else.
	Talk to us about what you're seeing or what your expectations are for the working class in America and the mythical, legendary, suburban White House wife.
	Under COVID, the gas prices, immigration, supply chain, Are we seeing interesting shifts?
	I think it's obvious with the Hispanic community, a lot of them not happy with this administration.
	Could the establishment, the Uniparty, be very surprised by what happens in November with those constituents?
	I think we're seeing something similar play out to what happened with Donald Trump, when everyone was so surprised that Donald Trump was able to put together the coalition that he did.
	Take that and turn up the volume about times 10, because Democrats have politicized every kitchen table issue that you can possibly imagine.
	Not just economically, although we see it in the gas prices, we see it in inflation, we see it in supply chain.
	They've politicized your kids going to school.
	They've politicized putting men in women's sports.
	Right?
	I don't care on what side of the aisle you sit, if you are a suburban white female and your daughter's leg is getting broken on the soccer field by a biological boy.
	Right?
	Like, that is going to radicalize people in ways that I don't think Democrats have fully grappled with.
	Now, I will say this.
	If those voters swing to the right, it is because of Democrats, right?
	Democrats have pushed them there.
	It's not because Republicans have necessarily earned their trust.
	So it's not a durable coalition in that sense, I think.
	And I think the right has to wake up to that.
	If there is this mythical red wave, many of those voters are not coming with traditional allegiances.
	It's not an ideological affinity.
	Right.
	They're not coming because they've eaten and read Milton Friedman for the past one year.
	Right.
	And they're not walking around with a MAGA hat on.
	But at the end of the day, it still means a victory.
	So they have to figure out a way to speak to those voters if they're going to make that coalition last.
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	The topic I think that, I won't say excites you, maybe agitates you the most is big tech.
	We've only got a few minutes left, so we're going to follow what Elon does, how he acquires more and more enemies from the establishment every single day.
	I want to put you on record right now.
	Whatever happens to Twitter and him, What do we do about big tech?
	How do we solve this?
	There's a couple of ideas been floating around for years.
	Break them up, remove that 230 immunity, charge them with cartelism.
	We don't see any significant movement.
	What is, as far as you're concerned, the correct way to begin?
	You have to subject them to the rule of law.
	What we have here is what we've had in many cases, which is innovation that began in a good way but has come to change how we live together, how we speak, how we interact, and the nature of our self-government.
	It is incumbent upon the self-government to assert itself over these companies.
	What does that look like?
	I think it actually does look like, in some cases, breaking them up.
	I think Google is large enough that it needs to be spun off from its ad business.
	Search and ads and everything that goes into Google and YouTube shouldn't all be under one company.
	But I think for platforms like Facebook, you might want to look at something like Common Carriage.
	What I mean by that is... Like a utility.
	Like a utility, right?
	If you look at something like Facebook, it is almost critical election infrastructure at this point.
	If you are banned as a politician from speaking on Facebook, you are losing a critical access point to voters.
	We need to consider that in how we treat these platforms.
	And I'm not just talking about Google and Facebook.
	We need to look at Amazon, who discriminates against small sellers, who in many cases is predatory against them.
	Or censors books.
	And censors books.
	And when you look at Apple in particular, and Google, you have this homogenization effect that they have on the app stores.
	If you look at something like Truth Social, they can say the same thing with Parler.
	They wanted to moderate on the First Amendment.
	Apple said no.
	If you do that, we'll kick you out of our store.
	So I think we need to look at all these things and where reasonable, I think, put reasonable measures that allow people to access what is now a digitally controlled public square.
	So that's not a silver bullet.
	I think it looks like common carriage.
	I think it looks like breaking up companies where appropriate.
	It looks like non-discrimination.
	It looks like all those things.
	And will the GOP do that if they're in power, Rachel?
	I am not.
	I am hopeful.
	Let's put it that way.
	But I haven't seen the amazing ideas I'm hoping to see.
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