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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Kamala laughs at Ukrainian refugees

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	Greetings friends.
	Dear editor, what happens when the self-anointed ruling class spends years demonizing its own citizens as racist, white supremacist, deplorable, insurrectionist Neanderthals bitterly clinging to their guns and their Bibles?
	What happens when the fools in charge, Democrats, RINOs, tech titans, censor dissent and throw their political enemies in prison on a January 6th witch hunt?
	What happens when the political establishment floods the country with illegal aliens while publicly wishing for the quick extinction of those proud to wave the red, white and blue?
	Maybe when those same elitist snob goblins start beating the drums of war, declare patriotic love of country acceptable once again, and call for deep sacrifices to be made in the interests of preserving freedom.
	The people most needed to pick up the rifle, to fight, to sacrifice life and limb, instead turn their backs on those who have relentlessly betrayed them.
	Maybe America's real protectors just walk away this time.
	Yeah, that would be me, former Navy SEAL, combat veteran, and CIA officer.
	Today, RINOs and Democrats together with the White House seem vested in initiating World War III between Russia and the West.
	And a lot of America's natural warriors couldn't care less.
	Why?
	Could it be that Americans have no idea why they would rush onto foreign battlefields for the preservation of another nation's freedoms when their own freedoms are under sustained attack here at home?
	Could it be that it makes little sense to get bloody out of a fervent devotion to a country when that country's military leaders have spent years denigrating patriotism as nothing more than Nazism and white supremacy?
	Yeah, I'm speaking to you, Mark Milley and Secretary Lloyd Austin.
	Maybe the wars of the future will be fought by politically correct, detoxified, androgynous know-nothings marching uniformly into battle because MSNBC, Google, and Teen Vogue tell them doing so will prove they are committed to fighting racism and global warming.
	I'm sure those pink pussy hat wearing wiminks are ready to jump out of a perfectly good working airplane, parachute into chaos, and start slitting throats for good old Uncle Sam.
	Or is it non-binary Aunt Sammy now?
	Where is John Kerry and his climate change warriors when the country needs them?
	Come on, gladiators, get to it!
	Go find out what it's like to fight someone that's fighting back.
	All that burning and looting and murdering in cities across America over the last few years has had to prepare the Democrats' wannabe soldiers for something, right?
	Since the federal government has repeatedly taken a knee to prove its allegiance to Black Lives Matter and Antifa, now's your chance.
	Now's the chance, the time for America's leftist paramilitaries to prove that they can stand up, fight under fire, and repel a hostile force advancing with more than just hashtags and slogans.
	To the Americans who spend all day, every day, trying to cancel other Americans for their beliefs.
	Here's your opportunity to put your keyboard warrior skills to the test.
	Go with God.
	I mean Gaia, you earth-worshipping primitives.
	Good luck, Diablo.
	What?
	No takers?
	No?
	Oh my!
	Well, who then will the governing elites send into battle to die on their behalf?
	It can't be the tens of millions of illegal aliens in the United States, because their job is to cast votes for Democrats in, quote, fraud-free elections.
	It can't be the public school teachers, because they're too exhausted from refusing to teach students for two years, taping masks on children's faces and spreading racism in the form of CRT.
	It can't be the social justice crowd, because they're too busy fighting the cesspool of neo-Nazism flaring up at local school board meetings, where parents aren't thrilled to have boys changing their clothes in the same locker room as their daughters.
	Oh shucks!
	That means regular Americans who celebrate the 4th of July will have to come to the rescue again.
	Yeah, no.
	You know, the ones who work, support their families and pay taxes, even after the federal government spent the last two years destroying their savings.
	Forcing them to say goodbye to their parents and grandparents from hospital hallways and banning them from social media platforms for having opinions about the pandemic, the 2020 election or America's future.
	Who knew?
	How many different ways can politicians and the globalist cartel they actually serve demonstrate that they despise freedom-loving Americans before those Americans realize that giving the last full measure of devotion for those who hold them in utter contempt
	only serves to deprive the United States of its very best while leaving us with its worst.
	I have no sympathy for despotism in any form, whether it's Russian, Chinese, or the Great Reset.
	I do think American warriors should think long and hard, though, about fighting for freedom abroad when freedom is under attack here at home.
	I'm angry that the same members of Congress who have refused to stand up for the January 6th political prisoners could turn around and urge those prisoners' friends and family members to head off to a potential war.
	If the political class want blood and guts Americans to do their bidding, the prima donnas running that class need to earn the privilege.
	What do Congress and the White House look like without a united American people prepared to do battle for them?
	It's just a few hundred powerless idiots without anyone to lead.
	No rights.
	No warriors.
	Fridays is usually fun.
	Fun time.
	Ask Dr. G anything and celebrate the Second Amendment.
	But when Jim Fuller connected me with this former SEAL and CIA paramilitary Who said he wanted to share something with me, who will remain anonymous?
	Well, I had to read that to you.
	Because he's right.
	Wherever you stand on Ukraine and Russia right now, those who ended up running this country don't deserve the support of those who come home wrapped in its flag.
	God bless you, thank you for your service.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to President Trump, member currently of the National Security Education Board.
	This is America First.
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	Plenty One.
	Mic's on.
	Cut one.
	How long should Americans expect?
	How long should we be bracing for this really sort of historic inflation and some unprecedented gas prices?
	Ms. Sure.
	In terms of the discussions that the President, Yohannes, and I had, they ranged in subject including the issue of the Black Sea, and I'll let him explain in more detail as he would like.
	But we are, again, fully aware and apprised, because we are in constant communication with the President, with his administration here, about the concerns that they have about the entire region, and frankly, the vulnerability.
	All you have to do is look at the map.
	You see, the Black Sea is a sea that is black.
	But hang on, no, no.
	It's his administration that's here.
	It's not in Tupelo, the Romanian president's administration.
	It's here in Bucharest.
	Did you know that, John?
	The Romanian president's administration?
	No, I wasn't aware of it.
	It's not in Birmingham.
	It's there!
	Where she is!
	She did the same thing she did in the comments where she laughed.
	She immediately defaults to him, expecting him to answer first.
	It's about gas prices in America.
	You should go first!
	I think it's about the gas prices.
	Would you like to address that, Mr. President?
	Well, I've been talking to him.
	About the... Here, in Romania.
	We've been talking.
	That's the biggest story of the week.
	That's the one she should be able to answer.
	Unit gas prices.
	They don't have a plan!
	I really think she's dumb as a stump.
	They don't have a plan.
	They don't have a plan for anything.
	That's so obvious so far.
	They just never have had a- This is where all the conspiracy theories fall short.
	Right, this is where they collapse.
	John!
	It's the Great Reset, you neocon!
	You neocon!
	Oh my goodness.
	It's still ringing.
	No answer thus far.
	Are you a fellow at the WEF?
	Am I going to have to put in John Piper WEF?
	Yeah.
	Am I going to find some photographs with your new mate Klaus?
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	I've been an economic enthusiast for a while now.
	Error.
	Let me try again.
	I do love bipolarism and all of us.
	Is it ringing now?
	Yeah, it was ringing now that it said error.
	I'm ringing again.
	You think they would be able to answer questions if they had some sort of grand conspiracy theory?
	Just lie!
	Just make it up!
	Yeah!
	It'll end in 42 days.
	Just to say something.
	You can hire a stand-up comedian to go up there and do it.
	Because they can think quick on their feet and they'll just say something.
	Okay, did you guys... No, I'll ask you on air.
	I'm gonna ask you on air.
	Still ringing, still no answer on Skype.
	May have to try a phone if this doesn't work out.
	Oh, title for that, by the way.
	Um... Um... What's a good title?
	Something about it being by a Navy SEAL.
	No, I like... What, what, what?
	Something about how it's been by... Yeah, but I like the word, like, losing your warriors.
	America has lost its warriors.
	No answer, it says this time.
	20 seconds.
	20 seconds.
	Israel here.
	And that Romania cut was today, right?
	Yeah.
	Alright, ten seconds, stand by.
	I'm standing by.
	I'll give you a thumbs up.
	We got her.
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	It's good to be back, guys.
	Good to be back in the chair.
	What was it with all that 80s hard rock yesterday, John?
	Did he bring his CD collection or was it on 8-track?
	I was pulling up a lot of different music.
	Fresh.
	Okay.
	Jim Hansen, thank you for covering our favorite Green Beret guest host.
	He did a good job yesterday.
	I managed to tune in a little bit.
	I was in Birmingham, Alabama.
	I was invited to address the Alabama First Responders Association for their first inaugural dinner.
	God bless every single one of you.
	Thank you guys.
	Thank you to Angela and all our superlative hosts.
	But let's get back to business.
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	We have a whole slew, almost a dozen cuts to share with you.
	We've got to talk about Juicy.
	Juicy's gone to jail.
	Bye-bye Juicy!
	But this is the allegedly Vice President of the United States, moments ago in Romania, Standing there with the Romanian president, who really doesn't have anything to do with gas prices in America, but she thinks when she gets a question about inflation and gas prices, she looks at him and says, do you want to answer this one or should I answer?
	No, seriously, this is what she did.
	We didn't edit this.
	The pause isn't from us.
	Listen to the cackler.
	How long should Americans expect?
	How long should we be bracing for this really sort of historic inflation and some unprecedented gas prices?
	Sure.
	In terms of the discussions that the President, Johannes, and I had, they ranged in subject, including the issue of the Black Sea.
	and I'll let him explain in more detail as he would like, But we are, again, fully aware and apprised because we are in constant communication with the President, with his administration here, about the concerns that they have about the entire region and, frankly, the vulnerability.
	All you have to do is look at the map.
	I'm sorry, did I?
	Jeff, did he ask her about gas prices?
	Did you edit that?
	No.
	So that wasn't a question about the Black Sea and whether she has conversations with the President?
	No.
	Okay, all right.
	Because the question, and it sounds a lot like, what's Zacky's squeaky voice?
	Didn't that sound like squeaky voice Zack asking the question?
	It did to me.
	He asks, what about inflation?
	How long is it gonna last?
	And how long is it gonna take for these gas prices to get normal?
	She says, first she looks at the president of Romania.
	Would you like to take this question about American gas prices?
	Oh, you should.
	Oh, I'll take it.
	Okay.
	Pause.
	Hmm.
	Yes.
	Well, we are In regular communications with the Romanian president.
	Who's here?
	Here.
	Because the Romanian president, for some strange reason, he's not in Birmingham, Alabama with Gorka.
	He's not on the Brighton beaches in the UK.
	He's actually in the capital.
	The Romanian president is in the capital of Romania.
	That's where his administration... Strange, but it's yes, the administration of the Romanian president is in Romania.
	In the capital.
	Here.
	Here.
	And we are worried about the Black Sea.
	I mean, is she just a... Question, seriously, is she as dumb or dumber than AOC?
	This is my poll for today.
	Who's thicker than a tree stump?
	AOC or Kamala?
	Because I don't know who's thicker, but I know which one is the creepier one, because at least AOC does that fun little dance on the top of the, you know, Boston University college dorms.
	This is the cackler yesterday asked About refugees in Poland, which has received two million refugees.
	And what's her response?
	Cut five.
	I just watched the vice president laughing about... Sorry, my mistake.
	We're going to save that till later.
	We have the one of her cackling, don't we?
	I'll ask you about some reporting that my colleague here in Poland noticed.
	He recently spoke with the mayor of the largest border town, who told him that the refugee system is essentially not set up for this, that it will collapse.
	It's an improvised system that can work for maybe two weeks, but not indefinitely.
	And I'm wondering what the United States is going to do more specifically to set up a permanent infrastructure, and relatedly, is the United States willing to make a specific allocation for Ukrainian refugees?
	And for President Duda, I wanted to know if you think and if you asked the United States to specifically accept more refugees.
	Okay.
	A friend in need is a friend indeed.
	Okay, so this time.
	Yeah, refugees.
	My parents were refugees.
	Hilarious.
	Ha ha ha.
	Sorry, guys.
	I need input.
	Eric, how creepy was that?
	I'm not even sure if it was creepy so much as just heartless at this point.
	Heartless?
	Good, good, good, good, good description.
	John?
	It's like there's nothing in her skull.
	You could put a stick right between her ears.
	Right.
	No, I think absolutely.
	I mean, does she... I know there's something that isn't in her skull, and that's a soul.
	Okay, I talked about your calls.
	Let's go to them.
	Dean!
	New Jersey!
	Happy Friday!
	I tell you, Dr. Gorka, what you read when you opened up, it rivaled Lincoln and Churchill.
	I don't want to blow smoke.
	I've never met this guy.
	He's a friend of Jim Fuller, the amazing Kalashnikov builder.
	That is an educated seal.
	I mean, that was a real well-written speech, wasn't it?
	I hope that we can find it online because I want to read that to everybody.
	I'll put it.
	I'll get his permission as soon as I'm off air.
	I'll text him and we'll put it on at least our website.
	I hope he comes out in the next few years because I want to hear him.
	He was spectacular.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	That's why I just opened the show reading his words.
	Mark, New Jersey, welcome.
	Thank you, Dr. Corker.
	You are the calming British voice of reason, and I mean that.
	Not always.
	Sometimes I get a little bit angry.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Thank you.
	Yes.
	Last night, doctor, on One America News, a former drug enforcement agent said the number of Americans who have now died from fentanyl Has risen to over 140 excuse me 144,000 Americans died because Biden and Harris and they know what's going on.
	They know that garbage drugs are coming in by the tons.
	And that's exactly what they're doing.
	come over the border.
	I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, doctor, it's illegal to aid drug traffickers and other criminals.
	And that's exactly what they're doing.
	If you were helping them, you'd be in a federal pen right now.
	They're doing it from within the White House.
	You're right.
	Tens of thousands more than died in 10 years in Vietnam, killed in one year because of the Biden administration's open border.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	Thank you.
	Mike's back on, cuts nine and then 10.
	Let's be absolutely clear about why prices are so high right now.
	They're very high for two reasons, notwithstanding what the Republicans say.
	COVID, number one.
	What happened was, the way the global economy works, if a factory in Taiwan makes computer chips, shuts down because of COVID, it causes ripple effect that can slow down the manufacturing in Detroit, which it did.
	I'm sick of this stuff.
	We have to talk about it because the American people think the reason for inflation is government spending more money.
	Simply not true.
	That's how you get inflation.
	Wow.
	Eleven.
	Eleven.
	And so if your family... Oh no, I've seen that.
	I've seen that.
	Forty-five seconds.
	Uh, line six.
	There we go, okay.
	Follow America first.
	Perfect.
	Alright, hang on one second.
	Okay.
	Should be up.
	Is this Kathleen? Kathleen? Kathleen? Kathleen?
	Kathleen?
	Kathleen? Kathleen? Kathleen? Kathleen?
	The End
	FBI is even sniffing and looking.
	Yeah.
	But what if somebody came in and said, you know what?
	We are gonna Subpoena all his account records and this and that and then all of a sudden we make the news.
	So it's more of a reputation risk.
	Oh really?
	Whose reputation?
	I think it's yours now.
	That is the Senior Vice President of Heartland Financial, the bank that shut down nine of Mike Lindell's bank accounts.
	Utterly outrageous.
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	What's the truth about the price of oil, about the 9,000 permits, according to Sarkey?
	Well, we've asked our friends to recommend somebody who can tell us the truth, and we are going to talk to the Western Energy Alliance's president, Kathleen Skama.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thanks for having me on.
	So tell us, are we like thousands of permits out there and oil companies who don't want to make money strangely and don't want to sell oil?
	Or is there an alternative reality that's actually the truth, Kathleen?
	Well, you know, it is interesting.
	I guess we'll take it in a positive light in that all of a sudden the President does actually want us to produce oil in America now that he is feeling the political heat.
	So yes, there are 9,000 permits outstanding on federal lands, but a permit to drill is not the only thing one needs to drill a well.
	You also need to have pipelines to put the product into, and we all know how pipelines are being held up by the environmentalists.
	You need air permits, and you need those rights away to put in the pipelines and to get the road, get access to your lease.
	So yes, we have quite a few permits that are on hold or that are out there and we're not drilling on them, but we are trying to get other permits that companies are ready to drill.
	So just because Acme Oil and Gas has a permit doesn't mean ABC Oil and Gas doesn't need a permit.
	So if the federal government was more efficient at processing permits, then we wouldn't have to get this inventory built up.
	as it is, a lot of times we'll get some permits in hand and then they might not ever be drilled because situations change or, you know, you develop one well and the 49 other permits you thought you'd drill in that area, well, they're not as viable as you thought.
	So there's a, it's a complex system, but there are permits that the federal government is holding up right now that companies are ready to put a rig on.
	And when you hear members of the cabinet, when you hear the minister, the secretary of transport, you hear the economic advisors, the president say, well, eventually it's just going to have to be a complete zero emissions and getting America off fossil fuels.
	And hey, if gas prices are high, you can just buy a Tesla.
	Well, then your Tesla can run on coal and natural gas, because that's what a Tesla actually runs on.
	You know, we hear a lot about this transition to, you know, fossil, no fossil fuels, but to have a transition, you have to have a transition to something.
	And right now, there is not a something that completely replaces what oil and natural gas do.
	Wind and solar are great to a point, but they're only available at best 20% of the time.
	And often, you know, when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine, they're not there.
	So we really can't base our entire economy on two energy sources that aren't there all the time and only do really electricity.
	They don't do transportation.
	And I know talk people talk about electric vehicles, but the amount of minerals we would need to develop to completely replace the combustion engine with easy.
	would be well more than the world can bear.
	There's no way that we can mine that much to have all the batteries and all the minerals that we would need for EVs.
	So they're talking about a lot of things that don't work in reality.
	And as a result, Biden's own Department of Energy just released projections through 2050 that show that oil and gas will continue to increase globally and we will still outpace renewables in 2050.
	And we've only got 30 seconds left.
	Kathleen Skama, President of the Western Energy Alliance.
	If we don't unleash fracking, the oil wells, the drilling on public lands, the XL Keystone Pipeline, what will happen to gas prices in America?
	Well, it looks like gas prices will continue to go up if this administration continues to stand in the way of American production.
	Obviously, oil is a global Absolutely.
	Thank you, Kathleen, for telling us the truth about those thousands of permits.
	This is America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	years from this administration to doing that.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Thank you, Kathleen, for telling us the truth about those thousands of permits.
	This is America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Don't make any sense when you talk about like contamination.
	Pleasure to meet you.
	water tables.
	The entire point of fracking is you create a pipe and pressurize it to pressurize the shale rock.
	If you lose pressure and leak, you're not going to pressurize the shale rock.
	So you're losing your product.
	It doesn't work.
	Right.
	Right.
	You want that stuff in the pipe.
	Hi.
	Greetings.
	Good to meet you.
	Welcome.
	Can you get that?
	Yeah, I'll get it.
	Sorry.
	Take those headphones off.
	I mean, put them on.
	And then, will you adjust the mic?
	You need to get really nice and close.
	Don't be afraid of it.
	Alright.
	Alright.
	So you're... Do you have an affiliation or you're just a guy buying billboards?
	I'm a guy going out on the street wearing signs, having conversations with people.
	Good.
	Having faith that one conversation at a time, we change this.
	And we're going to call you what?
	Billboard Chris.
	Okay, good.
	Excellent.
	Well, thanks for coming in.
	My pleasure.
	Thanks for having me.
	You've got the Twitter handle for our guest?
	At Billboard Chris.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	and uh how do we spell or do you want the chiron to just say billboard chris as your name no i want his i want his full name his full name okay so that is uh this is austin e l s t o n that's right awesome all right and when did you start when did you start the billboards The first thing I did was I actually put up real billboards that said, I love JK Rowling in September of 2020.
	And in Vancouver, it lasted one day because a Vancouver politician said it was hate speech.
	You saw what happened yesterday or the day before, right, with her?
	Yeah.
	She's on a roll.
	She's on the tear.
	I thought she'd like kind of just give up and hide.
	And now she's just she's doubling down.
	That's right.
	It's great.
	She's a feminist, which maybe some conservatives don't like, but she's got balls.
	Yeah, she does.
	Yeah, she does.
	And that scumbag, Volsh, that communist who said, how dare you?
	How dare you?
	That guy.
	Yeah, that guy.
	Oh, is that a guy?
	I don't even know who that is.
	He's the biggest commie podcaster.
	And on Women's Day, she again said something about women.
	And he said, how dare you?
	You're persecuting women with Testicles or something, I don't know.
	Yeah, women aren't men.
	Right.
	Radical concept.
	I know.
	Alright.
	You hater!
	Stop it!
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	Did Randy sneak into the studio with a little delivery for a team?
	I think he did and I have them in my hand.
	I haven't even given them out yet.
	Hot off the... Is it a press?
	How do they make t-shirts?
	I don't know.
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	This is the message he sent to Biden.
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	The boss said, there's a guy in town, gotta get him on the show.
	When the boss says that, I say, yes, how high?
	And he is in studio.
	He goes by Billboard Chris, and he's going to explain it in his lovely lilting Canuck accent.
	Chris Elston, welcome to America First.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	I'm excited to be here.
	So you hired a real billboard, right?
	Yeah, I bought a big billboard back in September of 2020 in Vancouver.
	And what did it say?
	It said, I love JK Rowling.
	And what's wrong with that?
	Apparently that's hate speech.
	A Vancouver politician said it was hate speech and the billboard lasted a day.
	What?
	What happened to your billboard?
	They took it down.
	So there wasn't pornography on it?
	It had a heart on it.
	There wasn't foul language.
	I love J.K.
	Rowling, the world's greatest children's author.
	It didn't have the nuclear launch codes for Canada's huge nuclear missile arsenal.
	Do we have nukes?
	I don't even know.
	No, you don't.
	So it literally said, I heart J.K.
	Rowling.
	That's it.
	Why is that hate speech, Chris?
	Can you help me out?
	I mean, I'm not a Canadian.
	Can you help me out here?
	So J.K.
	Rowling has spoken out against... Well, she's spoken in favour of women's rights.
	Meaning the female adult of the species.
	That kind of woman.
	That's right.
	The original woman.
	That's right.
	The real woman.
	The adult human female that we all came out of.
	Yes.
	That's a good definition.
	I like that.
	The adult female woman we all came out of.
	That's a scientifically quite precise definition.
	Whenever someone tries to debate me about what a woman is, I just say, we all know what a woman is.
	I'm not going to bother arguing with you.
	You came out of a woman.
	If you're confused, just go talk to your mom.
	I love your style.
	Okay, so they took down your I Love JK Rowling billboard.
	That's right.
	So what have you been doing since then, billboard Chris?
	So I leveraged the outrage and I reached out on Twitter and said, if you want to do this in your city, I'll help because I know people can't speak out about this.
	They get fired from their jobs.
	So I put billboards up in San Francisco, Portland, Utah, all throughout the metro in Washington, D.C.
	So you're an international hater?
	Big time.
	Wow.
	Okay, is this linked in any way to, because that kind of predates it, to the Jordan Peterson stuff about hate speech and that you must use somebody's preferred pronouns.
	Tell me what was the, why did you put up the billboard?
	Tell me that, tell me that story.
	So I'm a dad of girls and at the time they were 8 and 10, they're 10 and 12 now.
	But I became concerned about the child abuse of puberty blocking drugs Opposite sex hormones being given to kids and surgeries.
	They're even cutting off the breasts of girls as young as 13 years old.
	Brutal, brutal, just abuse that is not reversible.
	That's right.
	And that's why you did the billboards.
	To create awareness and then, because I can't even put up a sign in Canada, I said, well, this isn't actual hate speech and they can't take a sign off my back.
	So I had signs made that I wear and I probably look silly and I take a lot of abuse, but I wear these signs that say children cannot consent to puberty blockers or gender ideology does not belong in schools.
	So you're on a sandwich board?
	Yes.
	Telling the truth.
	My most popular sign is the definition of a dad, which is a human male who protects his kids from gender ideology.
	God bless you.
	And I just go outside.
	I go to busy intersections.
	I go to events.
	I do public speaking now.
	And I knew if I didn't quit and kept going day after day, that eventually this would grow into some sort of movement.
	And look, here I am on the Dr. Sebastian Gorka Show!
	Can I buy one of your billboards?
	Can my listeners support you?
	How can we be part of this?
	I have a website billboardchris.com.
	I have a donate button on there so people can donate there because I'm traveling around North America to spread the word about the harm coming to kids because I refuse to be silent about the biggest medical scandal affecting children in modern medicine history.
	Yeah, that's a great way to put it.
	Sterilizing children.
	These children, their sexual function is destroyed.
	They'll never be able to hold relationships.
	And 45% of them will attempt suicide.
	Suicide rates do go up, but the number one lie we hear is that if you don't let children transition, they'll kill themselves.
	It's a total myth.
	But this entire ideology is based on stereotypes.
	There's no right way to be a boy or a girl.
	No.
	If a girl is a tomboy, that doesn't mean she's an actual boy.
	But that's what these ideologues are teaching our kids.
	Well, and in America, It's happening in schools behind the backs of the parents.
	There are cases where the teachers were helping hormonally transition an underage child without the parents' knowledge.
	It is the policy in school districts all over the nation now to hide from parents that their child has a new name and is using different pronouns at school.
	And we even have organizations getting funding to introduce things, what are called the transition closets in schools.
	So a girl can come to school, get changed into boy clothes, Get changed back into her clothes and go back home.
	So they're hiding all of this from school and these social transitions often lead to medical transitions and it's important to note these drugs have never been approved by the FDA.
	This drug called Lupron was intended to treat prostate cancer in men, endometriosis in women and it's the same exact drug drug given to pedophiles to chemically castrate them.
	The word for this is diabolical.
	I mean in the actual original sense this is the devil's work.
	It's evil.
	It is absolutely evil.
	Trying to change the sex of children is quite possibly the dumbest, most evil thing we've ever done in the history of humankind.
	Chris Elston, are you ever giving up?
	Never.
	I will not stop.
	I've quit my job.
	I get attacked.
	I've had my arm broken.
	I've been attacked by Antifa in Montreal.
	I actually got my arm broken by a traffic cone that I blocked four times.
	I've been arrested twice after getting assaulted, but I don't care because this is a war for the health of our children.
	And if we had a bunch of creeps coming to the shores of America to harm our kids, there'd be a million parents there to greet them.
	Oh yeah, we'd kill them.
	But this is permeated all throughout society and everyone's afraid to speak up and we need our mama bears and papa bears to say enough is enough because the politicians aren't going to fix it.
	This is too important.
	Can you stay on for one more segment?
	You got it.
	Okay.
	Chris Elston, a warrior who we need to support.
	Billboardchris.com.
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	I'm going to donate today.
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	I want everybody, three million of you out there, just give a dollar.
	Give a dollar to this guy to protect our children in North America.
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	Was that right?
	Insurance?
	I was.
	I was a financial advisor most of my life in the investment industry, and then an insurance broker for a while.
	These are the moments when your faith in humanity is restored.
	Yeah.
	When you meet people like you.
	Thank you, Chris.
	This is parents who are going to fix this.
	I know you know Tiffany Justice.
	I love her.
	She's amazing and her group.
	I'm going to be working with Moms for Liberty.
	I'm going to be helping to educate the moms on how to message this so that they can go to school boards all across the country and raise hell.
	How hard is it to do it here?
	Do the billboard authorities push back on you?
	Not at all.
	We actually have free speech in America.
	So where are you going to focus on next?
	How do you choose where you're going to put them?
	Well, I've just been wearing them and traveling around.
	That's been more effective than the actual signage.
	Really?
	Yes, much more effective.
	Interesting.
	Because when there's a person behind it, people get much more inspiration from it.
	And so I leverage that with social media and I wear a body cam because for my protection, but I also record my conversations.
	So when I have good ones, I'll post those on Twitter.
	Good.
	And some of those get seen by 50,000 people or 100,000.
	Are they on your website?
	No, I'm going to be updating my website though.
	I'm putting a lot of my podcasts and stuff on there.
	Good, good, good, good.
	Yeah.
	What did your wife think of you doing this?
	Well, I think everyone thought I was nuts at first, but I had a vision for what to do and I knew it was going to work and I wasn't going to let anyone stop me and people try a lot.
	So how did your arm get broken?
	I was just on the street having a conversation and five or six guys attacked me, punched me in the face, punched me in the back of the head, ripped my signs off.
	A guy picked up a big traffic cone, kept swinging it at me like an axe, and I blocked it four times with my forearm.
	And the base on those cones is pretty thick.
	Yeah, pretty thick rubber.
	Alright, fast.
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	We are back with Chris Elston, a man on a mission to protect our children across the nation, across North America.
	Follow him right now at BillboardChris.
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	Chris, you are talking to about three million people from Los Angeles to New York, plus the video feed, plus the podcast, plus the two million followers we have on social media.
	I'm going to give you two minutes.
	Till the end of the show, First Hour, what is your message to everyone listening of any age?
	Okay.
	We need to make noise with our schools.
	We need to talk to the teachers of our children and we need to make noise at school boards.
	So I need parents to get involved.
	As Tiffany Justice from Moms for Liberty has said, this is the year of the parent.
	They are teaching our children that stereotypes determine what they are.
	If you look at one of the most popular resources, it's called the genderbred person.
	And it defines... The what?
	The genderbred person.
	Genderbred.
	And it defines your gender identity as being based on personality, likes, dislikes, jobs, hobbies, roles, and expectations.
	Do roles determine what sex we are?
	No.
	This is the most regressive sexist nonsense I've ever heard in my life.
	There's no right way to be a boy or a girl.
	If a girl is more masculine, if a boy is more effeminate, fine.
	Why are we trying to physically change the biology of these children?
	The definition of that is perversion.
	That is perverting the child's nature.
	That's right.
	And Democrats want to tell you that this is helping a child to be who they really are.
	But come on, girls are girls, boys are boys.
	If someone is an adult, They can do whatever they want with their body.
	But all of these kids who end up in these gender clinics getting sterilized have some comorbidities going on.
	This is coming for autistic children, kids in the foster system, girls who have suffered sexual abuse.
	And guess what?
	When a girl suffers sexual abuse, she doesn't really like being a girl at that moment in time.
	And if you have a teacher saying that you can just change your sex, Well every time you give kids this option some of them are going to take you up on it.
	It's experimenting on the most vulnerable.
	It's total experimentation and we have progressive countries like Sweden, Finland, the UK and France who are doing away with this practice because there's no evidence to support it.
	So we need to speak up.
	Utterly evil.
	This man is making a stand.
	You need to do it as well.
	Go to billboardchris.com.
	God bless him.
	This isn't the last time he's been on America First.
	This is the Salem Radio Network.
	The End
	.
	Mike's back on.
	Do you want to do any...
	Do you want to do either...
	Do you want to do either the read or that 10 seconds right now?
	Or are you going to wait for it?
	What I need... Oh, this thing?
	This... What is this?
	The Israel thing that was sitting here?
	Or did Jim use this?
	What's this?
	That's just... No, no, no.
	It's not that.
	It's with your other stuff.
	Was this what Jim used?
	Yeah, that's what Jim used.
	Okay.
	What read?
	We've got a read for My Patriot's Supply.
	Oh good, fine.
	I was trying to... Where did that come through?
	That came through at 1pm today.
	Can you print off, or if you've got it filed, the original, because I need the battle box.
	Okay, I think that's on my regular email, yeah.
	Also, at some point, I know you said you wanted to address conspiracy theories, but now I think 2E is the last chance to do so.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	Unless you want to address it with a guest like Boris or Wilkie.
	Boris might be good.
	Boris would probably have a lot of fun with that kind of stuff.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, let's do it with Boris.
	Let's do it with the Baron.
	So you can tag team.
	Yeah, because I've got to take these calls.
	Will you... How long have we got?
	Will you tell Al, Leo and Gina... Oh.
	He's calling up Boris real quick.
	Tell him what?
	I can't take him for about 30 minutes and we're happy to call him back.
	Okay.
	Oh, what's this?
	What's this?
	What's this?
	Title.
	Monologue.
	Pre-record.
	Chris.
	VDH.
	I've got to think.
	I think he said something really good about 20 minutes in.
	There's so much content there.
	Let's do Chris first.
	Okay.
	90 seconds.
	The damage of transgenderism or something like that.
	Thank you.
	Like, emphasize how it was irreversible, like you said.
	Or the fight for your children or something like that.
	The fight to protect your children from pedophiles.
	Or should we put J.K.
	Rowling in the title?
	How J.K.
	Rowling got me cancelled.
	Should we do that?
	How it got me cancelled?
	Yeah, because his billboard had to be taken.
	Me, J.K.
	Me, JK Rowling, and the war for our children.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay, 40 seconds.
	Didn't know that before.
	One minute.
	Yep.
	And the monologue?
	I need to think about that.
	they won't fight for America anymore They won't fight for America anymore.
	Copy that.
	Is that alright?
	I think it's good.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Fifteen seconds.
	Juicy Smoked Eggs.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Goodbye.
	From the ReliefFactor.com studio, This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Do we feel better having met Chris?
	John!
	He's doing God's work.
	Totally.
	Eric!
	Canada is definitely sending their best.
	I think we're gonna have to make Chris an honorary trucker.
	What do you think?
	I think that has to be done.
	That's good.
	Oh yeah.
	Man, he just single-handedly is starting something to protect our children from the diabolical mutilators of the transgender extremism.
	I want to support him and we all need to.
	What is it?
	Billboardchris.com.
	Billboardchris.com.
	OK.
	It's that time of the week.
	It's Friday.
	And I do believe it's the Baron!
	I'm here.
	I'm doing my baronial wave through the phone.
	I can tell.
	I can feel the baronial wave through the phone.
	Is it true, Baron, that last night you were shocked when in the period of just a couple of hours, as we do, I sent you a second photograph of a second cigar I was smoking?
	So shocked, my friend, is not quite the right description.
	It was jealous, is the correct word for it.
	Oh, come on.
	I don't think I can keep up with your smoking habits.
	You know what?
	I was talking to a good friend the other day, and I said that if it were up to me, I would do the full Churchill, which is wake up in the morning, spark up, six stogies throughout the day, And live life that way, but you know what?
	Business and other responsibilities take their toll.
	So I was extremely happy and extremely impressed.
	And yes, jealous of you smoking those two stooges, but I can tell you proudly that I am going to be smoking the cigar you gave me, the special cigar, tonight.
	The one you gave me earlier.
	Oh, you're going to smoke one of the soon-to-be-released Gorka Reserves.
	Good for you, my man.
	Oh, by the way, Churchill didn't really wake up in the morning because he was awake till about 4am.
	I think he usually woke up at about 10 or 11 before his first bottle of brandy.
	So it's a slightly different lifestyle.
	Slightly different lifestyle.
	I would take that in a heartbeat.
	So much to discuss.
	Some serious, some not so serious.
	Let's have some fun first.
	Cut six.
	Let's get the Baron's response.
	I am not suicidal!
	I am not suicidal!
	And I am innocent!
	I could have said that I was guilty a long time ago!
	Barron, are you suicidal or not suicidal?
	Well, I'm definitely not suicidal, but in a different way than U.C.
	Smollett.
	Is quote-unquote not suicidal.
	What is going on with that guy?
	Has he cracked or something?
	Or does he think that finally I have to do some real acting?
	If that's his best acting, then I feel terrible.
	I feel terrible for everybody who works for him.
	Because it is very, very, very, very sad.
	And I feel terrible for anybody who's ever employed him.
	It is truly Really a despicable, despicable performance.
	And this is somebody who's caused so much disruption in society.
	A divisive, divisive figure.
	And I don't have analysis to believe.
	I think it was a late sentence.
	Yeah, that's what I asked everybody this morning on Twitter.
	Do you think less than six months in prison is the right punishment for a national hate crime, which it is?
	I have to share this with all of you if you haven't heard it already.
	This is the judge reading Juicy Smollett, the Riot Act.
	Cut seven.
	Let me tell you, Mr. Smollett, I know that there is nothing that I will do here today that can come close to the damage you've already done to your own life.
	You've turned your life upside down by your misconduct and shenanigans.
	You've destroyed your life as you knew it.
	And there's nothing that any sentencing judge could do to you that can compare to the damage you've already caused yourself.
	So who is Jussie Smollett?
	Who are you?
	And how, out of all people in the world, did you get to be here, sitting in the courtroom of Chicago, at a sentencing hearing, convicted of faking, hoaxing, racial and homophobic hate crimes?
	How in the world did this happen?
	Well, there are ironies in this case, and the ironies are many, and they are profound.
	So he's found guilty, Boris, and he leaves the courtroom shouting, I'm not suicidal, and raising the black power fist.
	Barron.
	This is somebody who's obviously unhinged, but there's a broader statement too, right, my friend?
	A broader statement is that our society, the divisiveness, the wokeness of our society has driven people out of their minds.
	I mean, this is somebody who was having a somewhat successful career, and has just completely annihilated it.
	It also speaks to how Trump-obsessed the media is, right?
	I mean, the TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome, continues to be a very real and profound thing.
	And this guy Smollett is one of the utmost examples of it.
	I don't have an ounce of pity for him.
	Like I said, I think the judgment, the sentence is light.
	But now at least the country can move on and we can point to the fact that this corrupt criminal is being held to account.
	Yeah, yeah, at least he's going to jail.
	All right, let's switch topics.
	I need your assistance.
	I need to recruit you as a man whose MAGA credentials are unimpeachable, an individual who's on the war room almost every day, who's been fighting on the ground to investigate the elections.
	Help me out.
	What do I do with this?
	Two days ago, I put some posts about the hospital bombing in Mariupol.
	I pointed out that, you know, this guy Putin is not a good guy.
	He's a killer.
	He's a murderer, former KGB colonel.
	And I get swamped on Instagram with accusations of being a globalist neocon who's on the side of the deep state, Boris, as an individual who, by the way, has been subpoenaed by the January 6th committee.
	These are people who call themselves conservatives.
	Where does this come from?
	And what do we do with it?
	It comes from a total lack of leadership by the Biden administration, the illegitimate Biden administration.
	No, no, but the accusations of my being, my being, a globalist who's a deep state of Boris.
	You know me better than anyone.
	Can you address that?
	Because I don't want to talk about it.
	I want somebody who can address it from the outside.
	Well, first of all, let me say this as somebody who is honored to call you a friend.
	Who's been honored to work with you, who's been honored to be on the show, God must be now thousands of times probably, right?
	At this point, I will say that Sebastian Gorka is the farthest thing from a neocon or a member of the globalist elite that one can come.
	And I will call on folks in the movement to be thoughtful and smart as you consider the issue and what's going on in Ukraine and not jump to strongly condemn somebody on our side.
	And nobody is on more MAGA's side and President Trump's side than Sebastian.
	But help me understand, because you understand the movement and you're constantly on the road.
	Where does this come from?
	I mean, I remember, you know, you're a little bit younger than I, but I remember not so long ago, if you're a conservative, by definition, you didn't like KGB colonels.
	And now, there are people who voted for President Trump who say, well, Putin's a Christian and he's fighting for the West and he's declared war on the globalists.
	How on earth does that happen on our side and what do we do about it, Boris?
	Here's the issue we have.
	The issue we have, it actually goes back to my answer.
	It is because of the fecklessness, the lack of leadership of Joe Biden.
	Because our country is led by such a weak person and team, That this disaster in Eastern Europe has unfolded.
	And now there's division of lines, right?
	Because you've got the Dems and the war porn, as I call it, on MSNBC and CNN who are getting closer and closer to wanting to send our men and women to die in Ukraine over a regional conflict.
	On the flip side of that, and I've been very vocal about this, I believe that Putin is making a major mistake here, a major geopolitical mistake, and I think it's going to cost them dearly at home, especially if they get bogged down.
	And I said that two weeks ago, right?
	And now they seem to have gotten bogged down in Ukraine, and Putin's credibility continues to plummet domestically.
	So the problem is that because of Biden's inability to have any credible thought, to have any ounce of leadership, America is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
	And by the way, President Trump yesterday spoke about how horrible it is to see the atrocities happening in Ukraine, full stop.
	It is also horrible to imagine America getting involved in actual kinetic warfare in Ukraine, from my perspective.
	I think any talk of a no-fly zone or consideration of sending our troops over there would be a dramatic, dramatic mistake.
	Again, because We cannot subject our men and women of the military to injury, wounds, or even PTSD and other impacts from For what's going on in Ukraine.
	So I think what you're seeing there is a politicization, Sebastian, of a regional war that's happening right now.
	And a complete lack of leadership.
	He's Boris Epstein, former Special Advisor to President Trump.
	Follow him right now.
	Borisep.com.
	Thank you, Baron.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	Because it kind of blows my mind.
	I mean, you know, deep state... Yeah, no, absolutely.
	It was good.
	We can do it at more length, because I think this is a problem that's not going to go away, this love of Putin amongst Trump voters, and it's an issue.
	You know what's happening too, what I said, is that they hate Biden so much.
	Well, it's deeper than that.
	It's deeper than that.
	And I understand this part of it.
	It's a complete distrust of anything we've been told since the first Gulf War.
	Correct.
	But it still kind of leaves a little vomitous taste in my mouth that anybody who says they're a conservative is on the side of a KGB colonel.
	That's what I can't understand.
	I agree with you 100%.
	And that's why I think you've noticed how the treatment of things There's really no winners here.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	Do I trust Zelensky?
	I don't particularly.
	But he's fighting for his country and we have to give him that.
	And when people say, he's a deep state puppet, I want to punch them.
	No, I don't think he's a deep state puppet.
	I think he is.
	He's fighting for his country and that's what is concerning.
	And I think it all comes from America not having a strong stand.
	If we were honest and upfront, and it does come from this long history and I talked about Thank you for having me.
	It was great.
	If you ever need me to blow somebody on Twitter or anything, let me know.
	I'm obviously here for you.
	Thank you for having me.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Have a great weekend.
	If you ever need me to blow somebody on Twitter or anything, let me know.
	I'm obviously here for you.
	Thanks, buddy.
	I appreciate it.
	Okay, brother.
	See you.
	I'll send you a picture of the cigar later.
	Say hi to your parents.
	Bye.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah, the chat's already active again now.
	Oh, yeah.
	We got one commenter saying he just will not let this go.
	He says, quote, Oh, shut up.
	What, with the Air Force they don't have?
	Shut up.
	What, is that Alex Jones?
	Really?
	Bombing the Donbass?
	Yeah, right.
	Because if they'd bombed the Donbass, Putin would not have reacted, right?
	Yeah, they sound like a Donbass.
	They do sound like a Donbass.
	Nicely done, nicely done.
	I mean, that's... I mean, it takes five seconds.
	Somebody says, they've been bombing the Donbass, and you say, What, without Putin bombing them?
	How did that?
	Oh no, I'm a moron.
	That can't be true.
	Unbelievable.
	Alright.
	Title for Boris?
	You're no neocon or something like that.
	Seb's no deep state.
	Deep state paranoiacs.
	Deep state paranoiacs.
	Alright, well we got 50 seconds.
	Yeah.
	Oh, is he coming?
	I guess Geoff went to go get him.
	Yeah.
	We'll just pop him in live.
	Uh, but great time to do a, uh, car read anyways.
	Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And then if you want, if he's not in yet, we could do, uh, food or Israel here.
	Yeah.
	Oh, oh, gotta do this.
	I haven't even got Israel here.
	No, Israel's in E. Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's fine.
	That same Rumble commenter says, how childish is this bunch?
	And I'm like, hey, hey, we're trying to have a discussion here, all right?
	Charlie, dude, switch the Rumble off.
	Go away, OK?
	You don't have to watch me.
	But if you do, we'll edumacate you, OK?
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	I think we should have somebody from the Trump administration who served in the cabinet.
	Jeff, can you find somebody like that?
	Oh, you did!
	He's here!
	He is!
	Secretary Robert Wilkie, the head of Veterans Affairs, served this nation in naval intelligence in the Air Force.
	Perfect man to discuss the latest updates from the Ukraine.
	Secretary Wilkie, let me... Oh, what's this?
	It's from the Telegraph.
	Look at that headline.
	Trump was what?
	Trump was right on Russia.
	He could have been his deterrence.
	Well, Tim Stanley, you're a very wise, wise and handsome man, sagacious, if I may say so.
	We're going to read that after we've spoken to Secretary Wilkie.
	Let's get your take as national security.
	What's your new title at Newsmax?
	Senior National Security Analyst.
	Wow, it is so shiny, that title is so new.
	Senior National Security Analyst for Newsmax.com, Distinguished Fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
	So here's some very interesting things in the last couple of days.
	We spoke to Newsmax's war correspondent in Ukraine, I think at the beginning of the week.
	He's telling us because he's on the ground, former Ranger, God bless you, Chuck Colton.
	The Ukrainians have captured more than 250 tanks, intact, not blown up, captured, which is stunning.
	And then the analysis that almost non-existent Ukrainian Air Force is still pretty much intact.
	And the Russians are incapable of doing large-scale complex air maneuvers.
	Great analysis out of Russia in the UK saying they haven't had the practice we've had in Gulf 1, in Gulf 2, in Afghanistan, in Iraq.
	And the average flight hours for a Russian fighter pilot is a thousand hours.
	Sorry, a hundred.
	It's two hours a week.
	Two hours a week, which is less than half that we get.
	Have we been overly worried about the bear?
	Well, we have done this traditionally.
	I mean, we made them out to be 10 foot tall.
	And they're not.
	And the British MOD confirms that.
	They've been reporting to Parliament that Russian tankers are just getting out and walking away.
	Leaving their vehicles.
	This is stunning.
	Actually leaving their vehicles for the Ukrainians to pick up.
	So what you're describing is the incompetence of the Russian force.
	The United States, Great Britain and France and Canada and Australia.
	And the Israelis practice combined arms operation, you just don't, you just don't train with infantry, you train with artillery, you train with air.
	And you combine those assets.
	I mean, an American approach to this would have been to destroy Every anti-aircraft system, every airfield, before the first tank... Let's go back to Gulf One.
	So Gulf One, we had a couple of days of bombing that incapacitated the Iraqi military.
	And then 99 days before the combat troops deployed.
	We had 90, let's go back in time, I remember I was watching it on CNN, 99 days of utter air supremacy before we rolled the tanks, which meant once they rolled it was, it was, what was it?
	It was like a two-day war?
	Two days, that's right.
	But, you know, this is not new for the Russians slash Soviets.
	I mean, there's a great Eisenhower story.
	He's engaged in small talk with Marshal Zhukov.
	at the Berlin Victory Parade, and Eisenhower was trying to get from him, how did you get through those minefields?
	Minefields that were miles in depth so quickly.
	And Zhukov, without missing a beat, said, I sent my infantry in ahead of my tanks.
	Right.
	Meaning human, just humans detonated.
	To set off the mines.
	They've done something similar.
	They've launched their infantry, primarily conscript infantry.
	Badly paid, badly led.
	I'll give you an example.
	They've lost, I think according to the Great Britain, six generals so far.
	Yeah.
	We lost 11 in all of World War II in combat.
	Is that right?
	But not counting the guys who had heart attacks.
	No, no, no.
	In combat.
	But in combat.
	Eleven.
	That's it.
	We lost eleven.
	And they've already lost more than half of that.
	In less than three weeks!
	That's right.
	But no, they do not train as a combined arms force.
	What happened to them from the north, the forces coming out of Belarus, they were not cohesive forces.
	They were not forces that had ever trained together.
	They were hodgepodges of a couple of infantry battalions, some engineers, some tanks, and then the logistics train was not there.
	They tried to pull off an incredibly complex military operation with four different axes of attack.
	And had no way, no way of pulling this thing off more than a day.
	And the stunning thing is that maybe this, I mean look, I understand the conscript thing, but the conscripts aren't running the show.
	To see singular lines of tanks, I mean rule number one, if you've got a singular line on a road, you hit the first tank, you hit the last tank, and you've got a kill box.
	And you've got.
	And it takes them, it took them a week, we saw the footage yesterday, to fan out into the fields.
	A week to realize We are sitting ducks.
	That's right.
	And my view on this for the future is these folks can't handle Ukraine.
	Can you imagine what the one British armored brigade that Boris has deployed to Poland could do?
	Yeah.
	I was listening to Dan Bongino, who, you know, as the Secret Service, you know, agent has to prepare for the presidential visits to cities across the globe, including Russia.
	And, you know, the Secret Service has its elements that has to map out if there's one potential sniper in a city.
	Imagine if you roll into Kiev, and it's not one, it's 10,000 people who've been boar hunting since they were 12.
	Every one of them now has an automatic AK-74.
	And you're gonna, because tanks, For those who are uninitiated, a tank by itself is useless.
	The infantry has to go in with the tank and to walk around a city with a thousand snipers who are on their territory?
	That could be a bloodbath!
	40 million people who hate you.
	Yes!
	And Putin ignored it.
	He ignored the history.
	And he is suffering, suffering greatly.
	The sad thing, though, is that he's in the head of our president and the White House.
	And, and that is disturbing.
	And we saw the beginnings of NATO unity and the change in attitude.
	And that's been now wrecked by the fiasco with the MiGs, the embarrassment of Poland, the fraying of consensus on the part of Allies, and to give you just how confused this administration is, and the National Review said they killed the Keystone pipeline and we got the Keystone cops, not in the White House.
	But they said at the Pentagon, the Pentagon spokesman said, well, the Javelins and the British missiles are more lethal than the planes.
	Well, if they're more lethal than the planes, why don't you just give it to them?
	I mean, obviously you don't think they're going to cause any more damage to the Russians, but that's the kind of... But when they say that from the podium, and they've got the picture of the Pentagon behind them, and they say, sorry, in the history of warfare, suddenly ground attack aircraft are not important?
	Why do we have them?
	We're talking to Secretary Wilkie.
	This is America First.
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	Mike's back on.
	Where Meade wins at Gettysburg and then he gets across the Potomac and they all freeze because the presence of General Lee, they're still in awe of.
	And Lincoln decides, forget it.
	He brings in Grant.
	So Grant shows him.
	And his first day, all they can talk about is Bobby Lee, Bobby Lee this.
	And Grant said, well, the way you people talk, it's going to be, this guy's going to do a double somersault and land in our rear and both flanks.
	Stop thinking about what he's going to do to you and start thinking about what you're going to do to him.
	Bring up some guns.
	Right.
	And I mean, Grant never thought he could match Lee's tactical genius, but he was an operational and strategic genius where Lee wasn't.
	And he had a plan and he shoved off and won.
	But I do think Putin's in the head of the White House staff.
	Oh, totally.
	Can you play the cut from the President, cut four?
	Look, Biden, every time he gets up, he says they are a nuclear nation.
	He should say we are a nuclear nation.
	And, you know, I rebuilt our whole nuclear arsenal.
	Stronger, bigger, better than ever before.
	It's better and it's bigger than Russia.
	He should say we are a nuclear nation and we don't want war and we don't want to wipe out anything to do.
	But the contrast is Macron has said that to Putin.
	France, France!
	Even Macron has said it.
	Yeah, but that doesn't matter.
	Macron said, wait a minute, we've got a force that could devastate you.
	Yes?
	Yeah, how much time do we have?
	We don't have a lot of time.
	No, we've got to come in here with food and car and come out with relief.
	Yeah, I can't play that card.
	Alright, let's talk about the alliance.
	What this bodes for the alliance.
	I think that's the big next question.
	How's your foot?
	Oh yes!
	I've got one more.
	He took all his relief factor.
	The doctor said I could take it off next Friday.
	Wow, that was quick.
	So, this thing's heavy.
	I wear tennis shoes on the other side, so I really... They say, like, a pound on your foot is like 20 on your back?
	Yeah.
	It's fascinating how Putin has personalized this conflict.
	And the Russians do what they always do.
	They escalate extreme violence.
	They admitted that they hit the hospital now.
	That's fine.
	It's to instill terror.
	And if anybody wants to know what a thermobaric bomb does, it explodes your lungs.
	It sucks it out.
	It is the most devastating death.
	What does that mean for his strategic calculation?
	he's got.
	But he's got to be thinking in some of the yes men around him.
	We're now at a stage where the West views us as a paper tiger.
	What does that mean for his strategic calculation?
	Eric, can you find this telegraph?
	Trump was right on Russia by Tim Stanley and Just print it for me.
	Tim Stanley.
	You keep that.
	Oh, you sure?
	Oh, okay.
	Thanks.
	15 seconds.
	I got to know him when I was working in Britain.
	Oh yeah?
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	Secretary Wilkie, I think there's a lot of premature prognostication that NATO saved its...
	It's completely revivified.
	Well, they're not exactly at war.
	They don't want to go to war, which could be the right decision.
	So I think there's a lot of work left to be done.
	What are your expectations if there is leadership in the White House concerning the future relevance of the alliance?
	Well, I think that the relevance of the alliance now depends not on Great Britain, because they're in a different category.
	But it depends on the socialist chancellor of Germany.
	He has an opportunity to change the landscape of Europe.
	If he is serious, what he has proposed is a defense budget that is larger than the UK's.
	It's quite shocking.
	It is shocking.
	This is a country that actually believes that the pacifism of the EU and various German leaders has created peace.
	Not 700,000 American troops in the middle of the continent, keeping them from slaughtering each other the way they have for a thousand years.
	It very much depends on Germany.
	You have to trust but verify.
	But there's something else that's going on and I know you will hit it.
	In the next few weeks, Joe Biden is on the verge of losing the Middle East for the first time in our history.
	The king of Saudi Arabia refuses to take a call from the president of the United States.
	The same from the Emiratis, the same from the Kuwaitis.
	He is still engaged, no matter what he says, with the Russians in trying to cut a deal with the Iranians.
	And the Venezuelan, pleading to Russian ally Venezuela for oil.
	Right.
	Again, you and I have used the term cloud cuckoo land.
	The leadership of NATO, sadly, is not going to come from Washington with this team.
	We now have to look, those of us who care about Europe, And believe me, Donald Trump cared about Europe.
	He was no isolationist.
	No, but he wanted them to be serious.
	He wanted them to be serious.
	And you know, he's following in line with Dwight Eisenhower.
	People forget that speech, that last speech he made.
	They always talk about the military.
	Yes.
	But what they miss is he's calling on Europe to be the third block.
	Right.
	To allow America to prosper.
	What about Leadership from new places like Poland.
	Poland.
	Yes.
	I think we have an opportunity there in Eastern Europe to see defiant people with a special history.
	You know this in your family.
	I would say that if anyone wants to start clocking the fall of the Soviet Union, it wasn't Czechoslovakia in 67.
	It was Hungary in 56.
	Right.
	Because when they moved in, they had to take over everything.
	Yeah.
	Kill people and it was theirs.
	Yeah.
	And you see, we couldn't see it then, but that's what history shows.
	Yes, I think Duda, I'm sure he was probably not happy with that news conference he was forced to take.
	But these are brave people.
	I mean, these are people who said, here's our new base.
	It's Fort Trump.
	Did you see what Zelensky said?
	Yes, I did.
	So if you missed it, guys, I'm going to try and get it on my Newsmax show.
	The former press secretary to President Zelensky after the Polish press conference with Kamala Harris said, retweeted, it would be a tragedy, a catastrophe if Kamala Harris became the president.
	Yeah, never a truer word.
	Contrast real fast.
	Yes.
	Cuban Missile Crisis.
	Who did John Kennedy say?
	He had Harry Truman and Eisenhower on the phone.
	Yeah.
	Yes!
	And he sent Dean Acheson.
	Dean Acheson.
	De Gaulle's there.
	He said, I'm honored that the President would send you.
	And he went to show De Gaulle the pictures.
	De Gaulle said, the word of the President of the United States is good enough for the President.
	And today's the anniversary for you history buffs out there of the infamous historic briefing at the Security Council where we showed the world where Russia had put their nukes in Cuba.
	We've been talking to Senior National Security Analyst for Newsmax, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
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	Brandon!
	Where are you?
	Is that Mr. Herrera?
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	How are you doing, man?
	Good, good, good.
	Very well.
	I just found out.
	I met the head of Arsenal at SHOT Show, and he just shipped me a 545 RPK.
	Oh, very nice.
	I am so excited, because I think there are not going to be any more of those coming out of Russia.
	- Oh, there's a few coming out of Russia and into Ukraine right about that. - Yeah, you're right, but they're a little bit user damaged, if you know what I mean.
	They're a little bit rough on the edges.
	- Yeah, what is that, fired?
	Never fired a drop once?
	There you go.
	Alright, what should we talk about?
	I'm looking up your feed now.
	What have you done lately for me?
	I'm up for just about anything.
	There's plenty of stuff right now with the Ukraine situation as far as just the exotic guns coming out of that.
	Yes!
	Let's talk about that.
	I love somebody posted all the MP5s.
	There's this babushka with an MP5.
	It's so epic.
	So epic.
	It's all hands on deck, I suppose.
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	We are delighted to have with us the man He knows a thing or two about some of the stuff that's turning up on the coverage of the war in Ukraine.
	Why?
	Because he is the AK guy.
	Brandon Herrera, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you for having me here, my friend.
	Always a pleasure.
	So I'm so jealous that you managed to get your hands on and build a VSS Vintorez, the integrally suppressed AK super sneaky weapon.
	I'm very jealous of you, Brandon.
	Oh, it's a lovely firearm.
	And you know, I thought I was unique, but now I see there's plenty of Ukrainians that are finding them all over the place.
	Okay, let's talk about it.
	There is so much fascinating footage coming out of that war.
	My favorite latest one is seeing a babushka granny With an MP5 submachine gun that was made famous by the SAS in Operation Nimrod.
	So what are you seeing?
	You are Mr. Gummeme reviewer, but talk to us about the kinds of hardware that is rolling into Ukraine right now.
	It's super interesting to see just the dichotomy.
	You've got brand new AK-12s coming out, the Russians, the new combat AK variants that the Russians are using right now, in contrast to the same people in the same crew rolling around with A hundred-year-old Mosin-Nagant PU.
	This is insane.
	So we just want to confirm what you just said.
	Bolt-action Mosin-Nagants from the World War I era being seen in the hands of the combatants.
	One of the oldest rifles still in military service.
	It was designed in the 1890s and they're still fielding this stuff today.
	A modern first world military, top five militaries, fielding A 100-year-old firearm, 120, 130.
	Yeah, truly stunning.
	What about the variety of weapons you're seeing on the Ukrainian side?
	Oh, we were looking at it this morning.
	There's all sorts of improvised weapons that they're using.
	They're digging out some old stuff.
	The DP-27, I think I saw this morning, that dinner plate magazine.
	The rotary magazine on the top.
	You don't really see those too much around anymore.
	I guess they're just pulling out whatever they can.
	How do you rate the latest version, the Burst Fire AK-12?
	Is that really going to make a difference?
	Or is it really a question of, are your troops well-trained?
	They say, be aware of the man who has one gun and knows how to shoot it.
	Or is it the sexy kit that's going to make a difference?
	Yeah, that's really the scary part right now, to be honest, is seeing the amount of untrained Russian troops.
	And they're fielding the brand new AK-12s, which is great, but if you ever look at their setup, it's bare bones.
	The whole point of the AK-12 program is to modernize it for modern optics and IR lasers and things.
	They're not running any of that.
	I have seen one AK-12 out of the dozens that were in Russian hands that has an optic on it.
	I'm really wondering if they're really not sending their best And we're going to see a lot more serious stuff coming up soon when they actually send their gear to players, so to speak.
	Right, because they still have two-thirds of their troops aligned across the border that haven't deployed.
	But the whole point of the AK-12 was to make it closer to the AR system with capacity to have magnifiers, infrared scopes, red dots, and whatever.
	But if you don't put it on there, it's just another AK, correct?
	Yeah, it's really not doing them any favors, which You know, all that's sitting there somewhere, and the fact that it's not going to the frontline troops, it really makes you wonder if they're doing their old... Well, pretty much everything they're doing nowadays is feeling very old Soviet, but the human wave tactics of just see how far you can get with your least valuable players and then send in the real guys.
	So here's the thought I had today, and I'm going to find the coolest picture.
	I think it might be the babushka with the MP5.
	Given how gung-ho the left has become, the administration, the mainstream media, I just want to make, you know, t-shirts of babushkas with AKs and MP5s with the statement that says the debate on the Second Amendment is kind of over, isn't it, Brandon?
	You would think so, because I've seen so many far-left people, Occupy Democrats, all that, talking about how it's so great.
	They're handing out assault rifles to their citizens to fight the Russians.
	It's like, wait a minute, hold on, I'm starting to think they don't hate guns, they just hate us.
	They hate us having guns.
	Yeah, it's the political perversion of the argument, but as far as I'm concerned, the invasion of Ukraine is the ultimate, ultimate answer as to why the Second Amendment is the first civil right that makes all the others possible.
	OK, last question, or maybe something I can just plant a little seed with you, Brandon.
	We still haven't had that conversation You are an AK builder, that's why you're called the AK Guy.
	What project can I tempt you to do?
	I've got a box of parts for a 308 Saiga, a kind of Dragunov rip-off.
	You know me, I love the 4-5, 4-5, 5-4-5 Krink.
	What should we do together, Brandon?
	Just put some ideas out there.
	What's something that you would like?
	I think we could do some fun stuff with that 308.
	I think we could find something that interests you.
	All right, we'll have to have that conversation because, you know, a moss in the gun just won't cut it.
	It's going to have to be something sexy.
	And let me ask you again, for those who haven't caught Brandon before, three million listeners right now across the country, if you could only have one of Sergeant Kalashnikov's progeny, what are you taking into the zombie apocalypse, Brandon?
	Whichever one the Ukrainians hand me as a volunteer, that beats not having one, I'll tell you that.
	That's the correct answer.
	Whatever that babushka gives him with a spam tin of ammunition.
	Follow him on Twitter, The AK Guy.
	Subscribe right now to his YouTube channel and check out the... start with the videos on the very special project he has, the .50 cal BMG AK.
	God bless you, Brandon.
	Let's get busy on that special project.
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	The cackler, she's really something.
	The whole administration.
	I was talking in the corridor with Secretary Wilkie.
	Do you remember that people had that position of negotiating for America at the rank of like Dean Acheson and now we have Kamala Harris.
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	And even before that, the Disney theme park, right?
	We have an energy economics being used against us, right?
	A billion dollars was blown by those guys that we're working on.
	People talk about the loss of jobs, the Keystone.
	A billion dollars sent a chilling effect to the entire oil industry.
	So it doesn't matter how many leases and the rest of it, but in any event, you know, Disney, take it out of Russia's handbook, right?
	Governor Ron Heavy D. DeSantis should go on the offensive, just ignore the premise about Disney and, you know, what they're doing there to these young children.
	And I give you our energy department, right?
	I hope you know who Sam Binton is, right?
	With his Human puppy perverted sex partners.
	Look that name up.
	He was just put in our energy department, right?
	Oh yes, the head of radioactive waste disposal, the cross-dressing person who likes BDSM.
	Who loves Disney, who wears red ruby stilettos because of Right?
	So this is how they're getting to the children way before pre-k.
	And in Florida it's not gonna happen.
	Thanks to Ron DeSantis.
	Thank you, Leo.
	Have a blessed, blessed Sunday.
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	Next up, Brigadier General Rob Spalding on Russia, the connections to China and who's gonna win?
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	I'm delighted to welcome back in studio one of my former colleagues in the White House, former brigadier in the United States Air Force, former senior director for strategy, Rob.
	All right, I remembered it well.
	Brigadier Spalding is the author of Stealth War.
	He taught me a great deal about what we need to understand in terms of the global geopolitical threat environment.
	But let's talk about Russia.
	Let's talk about the events of the last 16 days in Europe.
	First things first, what did you do in the Air Force?
	Tell our millions of listeners you had the coolest job.
	As a B-2 pilot.
	B-2 pilot, the stealth bomber.
	I shared with you a study from the Royal United Services Institute just a few moments ago.
	Will you tell us what is your reaction, your take, to the general media reports and then some of the specialist reporting that Not only has the Russian ground force not performed as expected, there seems to be some very tangible limitations on their air capability.
	A lot of unclassified analysis has said that they're not used to complicated air operations.
	Usually it's one or two ground attack fighters, not large formations in complex operations.
	Do you have any comment on those reports?
	Yeah, I read the report.
	I don't disagree that when it comes to complex air campaigns, that's not something the Russians are going to be good at.
	That being said, you know, we have to be careful that we're not, you know, mirror imaging the Russians.
	Explain what that means in terms of intelligence analysis.
	Well, when we look at warfare, you know, we're going to go for, and this is, you know, talked about in John Warden's Five Rings Theory where he talks about, you know, don't go after the population that tends to make them angry.
	And if you're trying to get a political outcome, what you want to go after is a political leader.
	So we tended to move more into precision weapons and really we're trying to get the effects that we want.
	We want to achieve the outcome that the nation needs.
	When we think in those terms and then we mirror image what Putin is doing in Ukraine, we fall into this false sense of, hey, they can't do what we do, therefore they can't be effective.
	Well, that's not the case, because he doesn't care.
	He's willing to kill as many people as he has to, to get what he wants.
	That's not something we would do, so therefore we think it'll be ineffective.
	If you look at what he did at Chechnya, He learned a lesson there.
	Basically, it's a lesson of the Romans.
	If you have resistance, you just lay waste to the place.
	You don't need a complicated air campaign to destroy Ukraine.
	You just need an air campaign that's unopposed, which today they have.
	This is such a crucial point.
	It's one of our greatest weaknesses in the United States, especially in the intelligence community, and when we're trying to game the bad guys, is that we look at them with our value system.
	We measure them with our expectations.
	I was watching a lot of this low-side, open-source intelligence, and they were saying, well, You know, Russians didn't have the experience we had in the Gulf War with complicated aerial maneuvers, and they have a lack of PGMs, precision guided missiles.
	But Rob, if they don't want to do precision strikes, do they need a lot of PGMs?
	Bashar Assad's father leveled a city, leveled a Syrian city, and then basically, you know, used bulldozers to bulldoze.
	That's the type of thinking you have to use with Putin.
	Excellent.
	Okay, a couple of things.
	We need to get on to the grand strategy, but let's look at your expertise.
	You not only served as our defence attaché in Beijing and in the White House and the Trump administration, of course, you were a B-2 bomber pilot.
	We have this incredible story of the polls saying, yes, we have MiG-29s, That the Ukrainians know how to fly.
	We're happy to give them to Ukraine.
	If you help us get them there and you backfill them, America, you give us MF-16s in exchange.
	And when they got serious and said, yeah, here we go, we're going to deliver them to Ramstein, the Biden White House said, Not so fast.
	We don't want to be involved.
	So there's a lack of credulity, a lack of seriousness, which is perhaps why the king of Saudi Arabia and the UAE refused to return President Biden's calls.
	But let's go to the issue that is so sexy in the commentariat in the West, especially in Europe, of a no-fly zone.
	Rob, could you talk to us about the complexity of what a no-fly zone is or would be in Ukraine or Western Ukraine?
	How it would work?
	Who would have to fly it?
	And whether it's feasible?
	Well, I think, you know, in terms of executing it, it's feasible.
	You have to understand where you're staging out of.
	In this case, there might not be airfields in Ukraine to stage out of, therefore you're staging out of the nations that border the Ukraine, which then creates the, you know, question, are you bringing those We can do it.
	The problem is do you want to do it?
	conflict because you're flying combat sorties out of those airfields.
	The other thing you have is you have tankers that are very vulnerable.
	You have AWACS that are very vulnerable.
	In addition, on the battlefield within Ukraine, you have mobile surface-to-air missile systems that you have to be concerned about.
	So we can do it.
	The problem is, do you want to do it?
	And the question is here, we have to get back to understanding what the Cold War was about.
	It was not a We did not go directly in the military confrontation or conflict with the Soviet Union because of the danger of escalating to nuclear war.
	The closest we came in terms of a confrontation that where somebody was encroaching on our territory was the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	There's others that were in 84 where we had – we were doing an exercise in the – And there's a belief that Soviets mistook and thought that they were going to be under attack.
	But the Cuban Missile Crisis is really the closest kind of corollary to Ukraine.
	Do you want to put U.S. or NATO forces into direct support of a no-fly zone when you can have direct conflict with Russian aircraft?
	And the answer is, in my opinion, is no.
	And the reason is because you can't have an escalation to nuclear conflict.
	We have to get into the mindset that this is not going to be over in Ukraine.
	It may not be over in Moldova.
	It may extend broader.
	It may not be over just in Europe.
	The Chinese could move in Asia.
	So we need to begin to take a step back.
	Take a pause and understand that we are in a long-term competition for the survival of freedom.
	And it's much like the competition in the Cold War.
	It's not going to be one where we're going to want to go directly to war with Russia or China, but we're certainly not going to want to give in to them.
	A long-term competition.
	That's exactly what we put into the grand strategy, the national security strategy of the Trump administration.
	In past administrations, and this isn't a party political thing, it's left and right from the end of the Cold War, we really didn't have national security strategies that were worthy of that title.
	We had long laundry lists of we're going to do two major theater wars, Save the environment and everything else, even under the Bush administration, then Obama and of course the second term of the Obama administration.
	When we came in we wrote a real one and it was about understanding grand power competition.
	And that's what we're witnessing right now.
	We're going to talk about how China fits into all of this with our good friend, Brigadier General Robert Spalding, U.S.
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	Rob, it was remiss of me to not get you to just explain what a no-fly zone is.
	Why?
	What conditions does it create over a certain area, whether it's in Iraq or whether it would be in Ukraine?
	Well, basically what it says is it confines the combatants to being on the ground.
	So, in this case, we would prevent Russia from flying their aircraft.
	When their troops are supported by aircraft, that makes them much more effective vis-a-vis the Ukrainians.
	So, basically, in the case of the Ukraine, if they don't have the air forces to match up with the Russians, it basically equalizes the fight and restricts it to the ground.
	Now, that being said, You know, if Russia is able to continue to bring ground forces across the border and weapons, and especially if they're supported by China, you know, they could be very overwhelming.
	Of course, we are supporting them now with NATO and U.S.
	supplies and weapons, so this really gives the Ukrainians a fighting chance if we were to establish a no-fly zone, and that's the intent.
	But usually these are justified through humanitarian purposes, that something's happening on the ground and you want to protect the people there or create an aid corridor, but you're saying this could be assistance to the Ukrainians in terms of leveling the battlefield, the playing field.
	Yeah, no matter what conflict, if you kind of go back, look at Libya, look at Serbia, Kosovo, Usually, Iraq, the wars start with a no-fly zone.
	Basically, we establish air dominance, and that allows, you know, so it's been, I think, since 1952, maybe, that an American soldier has faced an air attack.
	Not since then have we faced an air attack.
	So it's part of establishing air dominance which allows the U.S.
	forces, and not in this case, in this case it would be Ukrainian forces, typically we establish these no-fly zones when we are going to enter the fray as the first condition for entering.
	So it doesn't necessarily have to be just for humanitarian conditions.
	What you're referring to is in Iraq when Hussein was attacking the Arabs.
	not Qaddafi, but Hussein was attacking the... - Marsh Arabs. - Right, when he was attacking the Marsh Arabs, we thought a no-fly zone would protect them from his air cover.
	Of course, the mistake that Schwarzkopf made was he allowed helicopters to fly, as we know, was just as bad.
	But your conclusion, as somebody who's flown strategic bombers, served in the US, Air Force, being a senior director for strategy in the White House.
	We can do it.
	NATO has, United States and NATO has the capabilities to impose a no-fly zone.
	But because of the risk of escalation, it shouldn't happen now.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	What if there's an encroachment?
	We saw a shelling eight miles from the Polish border.
	If NATO nation-states come under attack, does it change the equation?
	Well, I mean, you know, obviously Article 5 of NATO basically says that we have to respond if an ally, NATO allies attack.
	So, you know, that changes the game largely.
	Although I would expect that Putin also knows that and knows that, you know, There's this perception that Putin won't respond to strength.
	Time and time again when he's faced strength, military strength, he has backed down.
	That being said, Ukraine is not a NATO ally.
	No.
	And we have been hesitant to, you know, allow Ukraine to become a NATO ally precisely because Putin has said, that'll be a provocation.
	Ukraine's on their border.
	And so, you know, that's something that we have to take into consideration.
	That being said, you know, we, and when I say we, you know, past administrations have been very reticent to give any kind of weapons or aid.
	I mean, this goes all the way back to the Obama administration, where the Ukrainians were asking for weapons and we basically said no.
	So, you know, in a sense, You know, coming and deciding we're going to enter a nose-fly zone now, once Putin has made the, you know, step to invade.
	You know, the work has to be done to deter that.
	Before it happens.
	Before it happens.
	Not, you know, enter a war with a nuclear power after it does happen.
	So, again, we have to take a step back.
	We have to take a breath and understand that, you know, in this, there's going to be casualties in this long-term competition.
	And you can call it war, a cold war.
	But if it escalates to a hot war between the U.S.
	and Russians, or between the U.S.
	and China and Russia, the devastation from nuclear weapons is just not something that we should contemplate.
	We should use it as a deterrent, but we shouldn't think that we want to go into direct nuclear conflict with Russia or China.
	And given that you were Senior Director for Strategy in the Trump National Security Council, how do you look at the last two weeks in terms of Russia's performance?
	Well, I think they're performing exactly as I would expect it.
	Putin has spent some more money on the military, but let's be honest, their economy is less than the size of Texas.
	That's 5% of GDP, not the 50% of the Cold War.
	Exactly.
	So their ability to muster the resources to really have a robust military is just not there.
	That being said, the Chinese have plenty of resources.
	So I think he's done what's what's interesting to me about what the Russians have done in Ukraine.
	If you remember, Shauli Kashvili said, we need 500,000 to go into Iraq.
	And Rumsfeld's like, no, we don't need 500,000.
	Like, well, if you're going to take the country and you're going to hold it.
	Yes.
	We need people there to hold it.
	What's interesting to me is, based on how Putin put a minimum amount of force into Ukraine, I don't get the perception that he was planning to hold Ukraine.
	I think he was planning to take Kiev, get Zelensky, get the leadership out of there, get a leader that was friendly to Russia and then leave.
	If he was planning to stay there and occupy territory, Or he made a miscalculation in saying, hey, Ukraine, the Ukrainian people are going to welcome us with open arms.
	Because, I mean, the amount of forces that he put in is just not sufficient to hold Ukraine.
	I mean, he can decapitate, he can take Kiev, but he can't hold the territory unless he pours a whole lot more.
	And that's resources he just doesn't have.
	Right, and as it is, he hasn't deployed all of the forces he has at the border, and things are not going that well for him.
	We had that incredible, incredible segment with former Ranger Chuck Holton, war correspondent for Newsmax in Kiev, and he's seen it.
	He's seen the documentation.
	He's seen the vehicles.
	More than 200 combat vehicles, including tanks, captured by the Ukrainians.
	That's a little bit embarrassing for the regime back in Moscow.
	Do they have the personnel to man them is another question, but it is a military reality.
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	You mentioned very early on in our discussion, Rob, China.
	Now that is really your forte.
	You served in Beijing.
	You were our defense attache.
	You've written the book, Stealth War.
	You're educating America from your perch at your private company and also through the Hudson Institute.
	Talk to us about what you've witnessed in just the last two weeks.
	So we come up with this, oh, let's cancel Visa and MasterCard internationally in and out of Russia.
	And then China does what, Rob?
	Well, I mean, they're making up for everything that we cancelled in Russia.
	They're filling the gap.
	They're the relief valve.
	It's ridiculous because You know, there's all of this gesturing and posturing, but it's really meaningless without recognizing that Putin already knew this was going to happen, and he went to Xi and he said, look, Xi, I'm going to go into Ukraine.
	And Xi is like, hey, don't go while the Olympics are going.
	But yeah, you have my blessing.
	Oh, by the way, they're building, you know, this.
	They're building this huge pipeline into China, right?
	So everybody's focused on Nord Stream 2.
	There's this huge pipeline going into China.
	And China needs energy big time, right, Rob?
	So, in a lot of ways, Xi gets, you know, a lot of benefit out of here.
	Number one, he gets cheap energy because Russians can't sell anywhere else.
	Number two, he gets to see how You know, this goes in terms of the invasion of Ukraine because, of course, the People's Liberation Army is planning the invasion of Taiwan.
	And I would expect, if you've seen already, there's embedded media.
	There's embedded Chinese media with the Russians.
	They're reporting on it.
	This is going back to the people of China.
	And I would imagine that there's also embedded military, so People's Liberation Army.
	You really think there's like liaison guys?
	I believe there's embedded military, they want to learn the lessons, they want to take it back, because they're going to use it in what they do in Taiwan.
	Now does that, I mean you are the best person to explain this, doesn't that surprise you?
	Because Putin must know That she doesn't like him and that she wants to make him a tributary nation as well.
	So giving such access to the PLA, the People's Liberation Army, this is a very, very temporary marriage of convenience, is it not?
	Well, so I think when you look at the Chinese Communist Party and you look at Russia, Putin is Putin, the Chinese Communist Party is enduring.
	Yes.
	And what they're looking at is over the long arc of history, you already have, you know, millions of Chinese that have moved across the border into Russia.
	Over the long arc of history, Russia's demographics don't look good.
	Now, Chinese don't look better, but they darn sure look better than the Russians.
	So over the long arc of history, I believe that the Chinese believe that they'll swallow Russia anyway and so... Swallow in what sense?
	Swallow physically or just make it irrelevant in terms of a lesser nation?
	If you look in terms of the Belt and Road Initiative... Explain what that is.
	So the Belt and Road Initiative is a... it's almost like, you know, it's like a 21st century colonialism, right?
	You use business instead of troops To establish a presence, so you're looking for resources, you build a mine, you build a port, you know, you start to build the telecommunications, rail, roads, power.
	You go into a country in Africa and say, give us your copper mines or your lithium mines and we'll build you a new couple of airports, right?
	Right.
	And then after you have all the skeletal pieces in place of an industrialized society, what comes next is low value added manufacturing.
	So China wants to move up the value chain.
	They're moving all of their shoes and textiles and things that's heavy labor related into the Belt and Road Initiative countries.
	And they're also sending their excess mails.
	So the excess mails move into these places.
	Explain why they have excess mails after decades.
	So they've had the abortion policy has favored, you know, getting rid of girls over boys because in their culture, the boy is more valuable.
	So they would abort a girl in order to have a boy.
	Well, that's left them with an overbalance of males, young males, and they have been shipping them out on the Belt and Road Initiative.
	So I think there's a belief that, you know, over time in these Belt and Road Initiative countries and Russia is one.
	They'll begin to assimilate those societies.
	Everybody points to the fact that China built this Great Wall.
	Why?
	They're not really warriors in the great sense of the word.
	They are schemers, they're plotters, and they're actually long-term strategists.
	And what they have done time and time again as they've been invaded is they have taken the invaders and turned them.
	So a good example is the Emperor Kublai Khan.
	Kublai Khan was Genghis Khan's grandson.
	Genghis Khan conquered China, so the Mongols conquered China, and then the Mongols were turned, over centuries, into Chinese.
	It's like the book.
	You are absorbed, and China assimilates you.
	The book is Stealth War.
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	Rob, let's talk about the Western ramifications of One Belt, One Road.
	Let's talk about what you've tried to teach not only the administration but also the world with your book Stealth War.
	Explain this idea.
	It's a very Sun Tzu-like concept that China isn't interested in a frontal kinetic war with everybody.
	Yes, they have some cool technology, but mostly it's reversed engineered, stolen from us.
	It's not stuff that's generated by themselves.
	They don't have magic weapons that can, you know, defeat NATO in a couple of hours.
	What is the unrestricted mode of warfare?
	Talk about how your company, Semper, and how telecommunications, 5G fits into all of this, and give us your assessment of how the last two weeks Make them stronger or weaker in Beijing.
	Right.
	So, I mean, when you look at the evolution of warfare, it's been the evolution of technology.
	And remember, I talked about the five rings theory and how you don't attack the population because they get angry.
	And so, you know, the inventions of the 20th century that were most prominent in terms of warfare were the airplane, nuclear weapons.
	Of course, we have space with GPS, stealth.
	Yes.
	precision navigation, computers, all of these things really kind of, you know, grew up in the West, in the United States.
	We developed all this technology.
	So in many ways, we were the dominant power of the 20th century.
	Now, coming out of the Cold War, these technologies matriculated into the commercial sector and they became, you know, this thing that came out of Silicon Valley, which is this IT landscape.
	Now, two PLA lieutenant colonels recognized this in the late 90s and wrote something called Unrestricted Warfare, and what they recognized... Wait, wait, wait, sorry, but guys, super important, if you're into this stuff like we are, read it!
	You can get it, you can find it online, translated.
	Super cautious, because like everything the Chinese publish openly, you know, at least 20-30% is disinformation, but a good chunk of it tells you how they think.
	Sorry.
	Unrestricted Warfare 2 Senior PLA Colonels.
	Carry on.
	Well, I'll go one better, because War Without Rules, which is my new book, is basically a condensed version of Unrestricted Warfare, with my commentary added, coming out in April, and you'll be able to very quickly, just like Stealth War, get an understanding of this.
	So, they see the Internet, they see globalization, and they say, OK, what is... I told you, they're not warriors.
	They're strategists, and for the most part, their method of warfare, and this goes from whether you're talking about Sun Tzu, whether you're talking about the Three Kingdoms period, or the Chinese Communist Party, because Mao was, at heart, he was a historian.
	He read ancient Chinese literature.
	He was very up to speed on what China did and how they did things, and his idea of war, people's war, was Where Clausewitz would say, and Clausewitz was a Prussian general that said, you know, war is politics by other means.
	What Mao would say is that politics is war.
	And if you can use politics... I'm going to interrupt you again.
	And this is crucial to understand, okay?
	I spent a lot of time myself professionally looking into this.
	And what we have in the West We're dominated by Clausewitz, okay?
	Where peace is the normal state of being, war is the anomaly, and war is this thing where you continue politics with violence and then you get back to normalcy.
	There's a victory, there's a peace treaty, you sign an armistice and it's over.
	The Sun Tzu, for more than two and a half thousand years, through communism, through Mao, through all of the unrestricted warfare, is the complete opposite.
	War is the normal state of being, whether you're doing it with telecom, whether you're doing it with energy, whether you're doing with Fang Fang and Eric Swalwell, war is the natural state of being and it's not about bombs and bullets.
	Is that Is that oversimplification?
	Absolutely correct.
	So rather than war is politics by other means, politics itself is war.
	And the best general, and Sun Tzu says this, is the one that can win the war without fighting.
	So politics is really the name of the game.
	What happened with the end of the Cold War and our dominance in warfare of the 20th century is we developed all these technologies that were then commercialized by companies like Facebook and Amazon.
	What these two PLA colonels saw was You know, I said you can't attack the population because they get angry at you and they tend to side with the political leadership.
	What they found out is you could actually go after the population.
	That's what Amazon does.
	They go after you.
	Without kinetic weapons.
	Without kinetic weapons.
	They take data about you that they collect and then they turn around and they change your intentions.
	They change your perceptions.
	They change your behaviors.
	That's like the role of the algorithms.
	Exactly.
	So now you look at it from the context of war, you know, the best way that I can get you to get on my side is to see the world through my eyes.
	And so these tools that Silicon Valley created, they realized, okay, just give us time.
	We can begin to take over the global narrative.
	We can begin to, as we enter into this globalized world with the West, we can begin to change the narrative, be one that we advocate for, and then as the perception starts to go in our way, that the arc of history will turn on us.
	So what they're saying is the Internet was the greatest weapon for war ever created by mankind.
	We tend to think about cyber war.
	Forget that noise.
	It's about political warfare.
	And the thing that I've seen, I'm just flabbergasted, is that the coronavirus is probably the best political warfare campaign ever executed in history.
	We've got to dedicate some time to that.
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	Okay, Rob, you dropped a big bombshell.
	You said Covid, the coronavirus, is perhaps the best, the biggest example of political warfare.
	Would you care to unpack that?
	Well, so, I mean, most people tend to look at, you know, this virus coming out of a lab in Wuhan as maybe biological warfare.
	If you look at unrestricted warfare, they talk about combinations and additions.
	So you take one aspect of warfare.
	So even if the virus was deliberately released, which I don't have any evidence to support that, I think it was probably accidentally released.
	If you add in a dose of fear around the coronavirus, what you get out of that is a domination of focus on fear itself.
	And fear becomes the mechanism by which you start to take control of the global narrative.
	What I didn't realize at the time, and what was revealed to me over the course of the two years, was I understood the infiltration of corporate America, Wall Street, our political system, our academic system by China.
	What I didn't understand is the level of control over our medical community, and in particular medical policy that the Chinese had.
	So one of the key things that I did not know, and I did not know this until a year later, was that the Imperial College of London, which put out the first epidemiological report that said 2 million Americans were going to die, In 2015, she paid a visit to Imperial College of London, and they've been giving them tens of millions of dollars.
	And you look at the reports coming out, or the models coming out of Imperial College of London from Neil Ferguson, they're all biased to many more deaths than we've ever experienced.
	This is not the Neil Ferguson, the historian.
	This is the government advisor on COVID who said, Two million dead in America, lockdown everybody as he's having an affair with a married woman and leaving the house and ignoring the lockdown.
	This is the reality.
	So you're saying we need to study how Covid was used as a political warfare weapon, Rob?
	Right, because it was used to create that initial fear.
	And then if you remember these videos of people collapsing in Wuhan, you've never seen those videos anywhere else.
	They only came out of Wuhan.
	So when you start to understand, first you hype the fear.
	And the Nazis did this too.
	I mean, this is not This is how you take control of a population.
	What the Chinese realized with globalization and the internet, they could take not control within their borders, they could go global with this.
	And so this was a global political warfare on a global scale using the tools of Silicon Valley, using the tools of things like contact tracing, of being able to understand How, sentiment analysis, right?
	How this fear is beginning to propagate in nation after nation, and then what do you do?
	You lock down things, right?
	I think we need to get you back for a whole hour just to talk about that.
	Thank you, Rob.
	Before we schedule that, just tell us how China profits.
	From the last two weeks.
	Take Covid, take the clear demonstration that the health policy community is just following China's whim, even if they don't know it, they're doing it.
	The real winner, however this, you know, short of nuclear war, however Ukraine develops, the real big winners already are China, are they not?
	Well, not really.
	Why?
	Because Russia's going to need them big time, right?
	As a strategist, I'm sitting back and I'm saying, okay, they've got us.
	Checkmate.
	Beijing.
	Beijing.
	Yes, they've got us checkmate.
	But then, and somebody was, you know, asking me a couple weeks ago, you know, Putin's not going to invade, is he?
	Right?
	Because it doesn't make any sense from the debate.
	I'm like, no, you don't understand.
	He is going to invade.
	Right.
	And that's what people don't understand about, you know, these types of systems is they don't have checks and balances.
	And so everything's going right.
	They have us in checkmate.
	But they can't help themselves.
	I think that Putin's miscalculated and I think she's miscalculated.
	Okay, stop, stop.
	I need to know.
	What has – just stick on the high points.
	What has Putin miscalculated on?
	I think what I expected – the reason I left government, I expected this escalation of moving from this very subtle, I'm going to use the tools of Silicon Valley to undermine the principles of democracy to I'm going to be much more militarily aggressive.
	I could see that happening.
	But you thought it would happen much slower?
	Yes.
	So they'd stay in the non-kinetic?
	Yes.
	So he's too rapidly gone into the kinetic.
	What about Beijing?
	I think coronavirus said, OK, the opportunity is here.
	So I'm going to go.
	How has Beijing miscalculated?
	So I think Beijing miscalculated and it was too early, right?
	For Russia?
	For China.
	And in backing Putin, you know, Let's back up.
	When you go back to what Lighthizer and Liu He were doing in terms of negotiating... This is Ambassador Lighthizer, trade negotiator for President Trump.
	Right.
	When they were negotiating the trade deal.
	And in fact, I talked to Liu He's assistant before I left Beijing.
	Who's Liu He?
	Explain.
	Liu He is a lead economic advisor to Xi Jinping.
	And I went to, I asked for a meeting with Leo Hub.
	This is before I came to the White House.
	And my intent was to deliver him a message that, hey, things are changing.
	And for you to really, you know, profit from this relationship anymore, you're going to have to think differently.
	Now, I knew they wouldn't change, but it was at least to give them a message to think about.
	Well, they went into that negotiation, Leo Hub did with Lighthizer, thinking one thing.
	And if you remember, they took that 150-page document and they went back to Zhongnanhai and what happened?
	Xi Jinping tore it up.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so what they, what Xi had determined at that point is we have all the things that we need at this point to basically move from this hide-and-bide strategy to being much more aggressive, and that includes much more aggressive militarily.
	If you look at the history of China, It is a history of being too aggressive before they're ready.
	This happened in the late 1800s with Japan, and before the U.S.
	intervened, Japan was marching on Beijing, literally marching on Beijing.
	So perhaps they have a problem with their own mirror imaging, that they're looking at us, looking at the West, And they say, OK, it's time to run.
	And it's too early.
	It's too early.
	And I think the reason I think they had us in checkmate is because everybody, the elites involved in our country and in countries around the world, were financially incented to do what the Chinese Communist Party wanted.
	Right.
	All they had to do was keep doing that.
	Right.
	Now you have everybody seeing what Putin's doing in Ukraine.
	Waking up.
	And now it's guilt by association.
	Yes.
	And so what's going to happen, I'll tell you what's going to happen, is that Xi is going to double down and there will be an invasion of Taiwan.
	That's what's coming next.
	And he can't help himself.
	He can't stop himself.
	He can't help himself.
	Alright, dear oh dear.
	We need to get back Get you back to talk about that.
	I think we've just opened Pandora's box.
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