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March 7, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: How could you separate fact from propaganda in the Ukrainian war?

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	in Kyiv and four days in the car.
	Maria is a mother of a four month old child and she made that journey with her niece, with her mother, with her sister.
	But when she talked about her husband, it brought her to tears, the reality of having to leave him behind as he fights for Ukraine.
	That is a Ukrainian mother, four-month-old child in her arms.
	She has made it safe to Poland that has received over one and a half million refugees already in less than two weeks from Ukraine.
	And her husband has stayed to fight.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump, currently member of the Defense Department National Security Education Board.
	And we have to get serious.
	We really have to get serious.
	I'm seeing things, I'm seeing fissures develop inside the conservative movement that are problematic and that bother me in a deep sense of, have many of us lost their way when it comes to what matters in life.
	Let's strip everything away, all the extraneous irrelevant ephemera of political discourse.
	Let's talk about what truly matters.
	For a man, it really should be God, family, and country.
	Is it really more complicated than that?
	Number one, you kneel before your Savior.
	You should be a God-fearing man.
	He is our Creator and He is the truth.
	You owe your life to Him.
	We owe everything.
	He is the good.
	Forget Plato, Aristotle, Socrates debating what is the good life, what is the good man, what is a good society.
	No!
	God is the good.
	And we are sinners.
	We are fallen.
	And we should try, as much as our frail physical form allows us, to do the will of our Creator.
	Secondly, our family.
	There is no greater thing you can do, short of laying down your life for your fellow man, than to build a family.
	To create, to procreate, and to have your values, your God-fearing values in the next generation.
	To protect that building block of our community that is central.
	There is nothing, man is nothing without family.
	There is no civilization without family.
	And then lastly, At the Meso level, if you go beyond the family unit that is the building block of civilization and ours is the greatest civilization ever.
	It's not West is best, West is the best of all civilizations that have ever existed since Ur was a civilization.
	Since the Mesopotamian basin saw the first communities develop.
	And we serve that nation.
	Some in humble ways.
	You can be a letter carrier.
	You can be a school teacher.
	You can be a plumber.
	Others by taking an oath to the Constitution.
	Donning a uniform and fighting and killing our enemies.
	Or just keeping the streets safe.
	Donning a uniform and a badge and a gun.
	And protecting the innocent.
	But all of us must serve these three loci.
	God, family and nation.
	I ask you now to bring that perspective, to bring that lens into what we have witnessed in the last two weeks.
	I don't care what the history of Vladimir Zelensky is.
	I had a woman DM me the following asinine comment over the weekend and you know who you are and the fact that you haven't responded tells me that you are ashamed.
	She sent me a clip of some skit.
	Some black and white video, some comedy routine, which had Volodymyr Zelensky, the president of the Ukraine, dressed in latex and wearing high heels and dancing around to a fake music video.
	And she said, oh, do you still support him now?
	Yes, I do support him.
	How dare you?
	Are you?
	Oh, I guess you're sinless.
	You're perfect.
	You're not fallen.
	I guess you don't know that Jesus, our Saviour, supped, dined with prostitutes and tax collectors because you're perfect, aren't you?
	You cast the first stone if you are sinless.
	Here are the basics.
	Forget the politics.
	I don't care what George Soros said about this war.
	I really don't care.
	Because guess what?
	These things can be true at the same time.
	Putin is evil, so is George Soros.
	Here are the facts of the matter that are incontrovertible, that you have to make a decision upon, based On those values of God, family and country.
	Ukraine was an independent free nation, which means it gets to decide who it associates with.
	Does it want to be neutral?
	Does it want to join the West?
	Or does it want to be enslaved in some Usual patriarchal, subservient, tributary state relationship with its eastern neighbor, as it was for centuries.
	Well, guess what?
	They made a choice to be free and independent and associated with us.
	I don't care what Biden bribed the government to do with regards to Hunter Biden.
	Talk to me about a free people's choice.
	44 million people said, no, no, no, we've had enough of Moscow.
	No, no, no, no.
	We don't want to be neutral.
	We want to be a Western nation.
	Fact.
	Number two, they didn't attack Russia.
	There was no genocide of ethnic Russians by Nazis in Ukraine.
	If one more person tells me that, well, you'll get what for from me?
	You'll get a piece of my mind.
	In a DM.
	As we had Konstantin Kissin, an ethnic Russian Jew from Ukraine, say, yeah, I've got Ukrainian relatives, Russian ethnic relatives, living there, trying to survive.
	And if there had been a genocide by regiments of Nazis across Ukraine, his relatives would have told him.
	Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked because Putin is evil incarnate.
	He's a diabolical child of the KGB.
	Oh, he's a great Christian.
	What?
	This is the man who persecuted Christians when he was a colonel in the KGB.
	How dare you pervert history?
	How dare you rewrite history?
	Now is the time to see clearly. .
	Thank you.
	Putin is evil.
	So is George Soros.
	But the Ukrainians were a free nation who deserve to be free and are fighting for their liberty.
	That is what you make a judgment on.
	Nothing else.
	Because that's what 1776 should mean to all Americans.
	Our fight for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is exactly what the Ukrainians are fighting for now.
	And they deserve our support.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	No, let's do food now. let's do food now.
	Okay.
	And then Israel in sea.
	And then I'll try and squeeze a pot.
	Podcasted at the end of sea.
	Oh, no.
	Because it's a longer one.
	I'll try and do podcasts at the end of B.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Titles for that and or the pre-record?
	What the West must know about Putin.
	that's the pre-record yeah all right ukraine and russia colon make a choice yeah i had someone bring up the whole that thing about zelensky like oh he danced in like tights one time and i'm like okay and trump appeared in the wwe once Like, I mean, you're not gonna use that again.
	It's moronic.
	It's just so moronic.
	And who do you- he's in his country fighting, and you're just doing- you're sniping video clips about a comic's routines?
	Yeah, that is pretty weak.
	I mean, it really- I mean, it's like the Pharisees.
	It truly is.
	What did Pisaki say again?
	She said, responding to, he was asking her about reopening the Keystone.
	She said it doesn't, that won't make a difference because we need to get off fossil fuels.
	But didn't she also say that like, oh, we've never been against drilling for more oil?
	She said something like that.
	I didn't hear that.
	It was right at the end.
	All right, I'll dial him up now.
	Skype channel one.
	And you've got his book, right?
	Yeah, Great China Tech War.
	Great US China Tech War.
	Hello, Gordon.
	Can you hear us?
	I can hear you.
	Wonderful.
	We hear you.
	The mics are live on our Rumble livestream, as always.
	And we have your picture.
	There we go.
	Gordon, greetings.
	Greetings, Dr. G. How we doing, Mr. C?
	Good?
	Yeah, we're fine.
	You need a new book.
	Are you writing?
	Things are just changing too fast.
	I can barely do what, you know, write articles right now.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I need to send you what I wrote.
	Hang on.
	Um, I'm sending you two things, Eric.
	Can you print the email and the embedded article?
	The email and the embedded article.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	And then I've got to send Gordon my... 70 seconds.
	Peace.
	America First, what's your name?
	Where is it?
	Okay.
	And you can use this for whatever purposes you want.
	It's unclassified, but it's my analysis.
	Oh, there's no way.
	Can you text me your email?
	I don't have your email.
	Oh, you mean me?
	Yeah.
	I'll just text the boss.
	You're the boss.
	Okay, so we've got food here now.
	Pod, trying at the end.
	Yes.
	All right.
	30 seconds.
	Um, yes.
	And the audio is Linda.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Pool expert in the chat says, Putin burning down all of Ukraine to find the three Nazis who are hiding there.
	Yes!
	Exactly!
	Exactly.
	Who wrote that?
	Username pool expert.
	Pool expert.
	Nicely done.
	All right.
	Standby.
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	It's heartbreaking, just switching on the television.
	I spent, my wife had a shower, a bridal shower for a friend at the weekend.
	I disappeared because I can't stand that much oestrogen and I just watched footage from the Ukraine for hours.
	Not live stuff, stuff from the last two weeks and it's just, it's heartbreaking, heartbreaking.
	How can we make a difference?
	Right now we are vetting the charities that we think you should donate to in Ukraine to help those who are stranded there or who have made it out to other countries.
	But in the meantime, will you just listen to this audio cut from a A situation far closer to home, where children are so destitute, so hungry, that their parents are feeding them leaves.
	This is Linda in Honduras.
	When you see the hunger, when you see the need, you go out on the field, even if they haven't eaten for one or two days.
	It just makes us real, real sad.
	The more we do, the more we see the need.
	The more places we go, the more we find people starving.
	The more we see children are eating the leaves from the trees.
	That shouldn't happen to any child.
	That's just wrong.
	They're innocent.
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	We are delighted to have with us first guest of the day, the man who keeps us up to date on the primary threat to America, which is, of course, Red China.
	He's Gordon Chang, the author of The Great US-China Tech War.
	Follow him right now at GordonGChang.
	Gordon, let's jump in straight away.
	Visa and Mastercard have banned transactions that are international.
	So nobody can do a visa transaction with a business in Russia.
	And likewise, a Russian can't do an international transaction, which seems to me a very small fraction of the business.
	If they shut down visa inside Russia, I would think, huh, that's interesting, but that's not what they're doing.
	China has already said, hey, hey, we've got an alternative credit card system, you can use us.
	Can you explain the intertwined nature of this conflict and how China is profiting gangbusters?
	Yeah.
	First of all, China green-lighted this invasion.
	They did that on February 4th when Vladimir Putin was in Beijing.
	They announced that $117.5 billion of new oil and gas deals.
	Soon after that, you had the announcement of the sale of 100 million metric tons of Russian coal.
	Then China lifted the restrictions on the importation of Russian wheat.
	You have China offering its version of SWIFT.
	You know, we kicked some Russian institutions off of SWIFT, which is the interbank transfer system.
	Well, China said, OK, look, you can use SIPS, which is their cross-border interbank payment system, which is their answer to SWIFT.
	And so it goes on and on.
	There was just give you an example of what's going on here.
	About a week ago, China said, well, two large state banks were no longer going to provide U.S.
	dollar financing for the importation of Russian commodities into China, but they didn't ban the use of renminbi.
	So this was basically an attack on the dollar.
	China is trying to put Russia into its renminbi orbit.
	In other words, they're trying to make Russia a colony of China and dominated by the Chinese payment systems.
	I know it's hard to gauge this.
	We're going to have one of Putin's former economic advisors on the show tomorrow who's been very outspoken against the current regime.
	Do you have any sense or have you spoken to any criminologists?
	Because I would think I think Putin understands that this is quite a tightrope for him.
	He's got his plans, Greater Soviet Union, but if the renminbi becomes, you know, the currency to save him, he's going to be a vassal state of China.
	These are not nations that like each other, are they, Gordon?
	Well, long term, no.
	China and Russia have had difficult relations.
	But, you know, we don't really worry about what they're going to be in, let's say, Three or four decades from now or the end of the century, we worry about what they're doing right now.
	Right now they are very, very close.
	You know, China is enabling this.
	And although Putin may be mortgaging his future to Beijing, this is just the way it is.
	I mean, the Chinese and the Russian armies, they drill together.
	They've been doing that since 2005.
	Last August, for the first time ever, Russian soldiers were using Chinese weapons, which shows you a real attempt to move towards interoperability.
	And this is not good news for the world, but it really means that we need to be sanctioning China, because China is financing this war.
	You know, children are dying in Ukraine because China wants them to.
	Do you have any expectation?
	I mean, it seems so hard, Gordon, to get this administration to even consider not buying Russian oil right now.
	Is there any way that they could even focus on the profit and the geopolitical exploitation that China is accruing at the same time?
	The Biden administration on February 3 actually warned China not to, quote unquote, backfill.
	In other words, to relieve U.S.
	sanctions.
	But now that China's backfilling like crazy?
	Well, there's no talk of sanctions on China.
	The Biden administration is moving from one disaster after another.
	And this means that the United States is at grave risk.
	You know, we think of ourselves as a strong country.
	And if you look at the metrics, of course we are.
	But when you have a president who's not defending us, who's making decisions which are incomprehensible, not just wrong, but incomprehensible, we could lose our country right now.
	We've only got a minute left with Gordon Chang.
	Get his book, The Great US-China Tech War.
	Follow him on Twitter right now, Gordon G. Chang.
	Give us a quick comparison.
	Yes, Russia's bigger, 11 time zones and everything else, but in a geopolitical contest, if you look at the mortality rate in Russia for males is in the 60s, China's going to eat their lunch geopolitically on the long term, no?
	Yes.
	The only hope I have, Seb, is that Russia is such a basket case that as it ties itself to China, it becomes the albatross that brings down an already fragile China, which is suffering from all sorts of stuff.
	Debt crisis, stagnant economy, worsening food shortages, accelerating COVID-19 outbreaks, you name it, China's got it.
	Yeah, bingo.
	God bless you, Gordon.
	Super busy man right at the moment, keeping us focused on the number one threat.
	I learned this in the White House.
	It wasn't ISIS, not Iran, not even Russia.
	The number one threat remains China on the long term, even if there is war in Europe.
	Gordon G Chang on Twitter.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Thanks, guys. guys.
	Hey, I just emailed you my analysis.
	Feel free to use it as you wish.
	Okay.
	Thanks very much, Seb.
	Thanks, Gordon.
	Alright.
	Done?
	Okay.
	Solomon is in D.
	Yeah, I'm gonna take calls though.
	Yes.
	Oh yeah, we'll call for it.
	Title for that one?
	China and Russia.
	China's play in the Russia-Ukraine war.
	China's play in the Russia-Ukraine war.
	Yep.
	All right.
	It's warm in here.
	Israel in relief.
	Yeah, it's like 80 degrees outside.
	70s out of nowhere.
	It's fun to go back to pool weather already.
	Yeah, it's going to be all over the place for the next two weeks.
	I want to use the rooftop pool in my building again.
	Alright.
	Two and a half.
	All right, what have I not seen?
	Oh, um... Give me five and six.
	Five and six, back to back.
	Look, I spoke to the president and the cabinet, the leading members of the cabinet, about this just yesterday, from Europe.
	And we are now in very active discussions with our European partners about banning the import of Russian oil to our countries, while, of course, at the same time, maintaining a steady global supply of oil.
	You know, China speaks often about the sanctity of this principle of sovereignty.
	And here you have a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, the council that came into existence with the responsibility of keeping peace and security around the world, respecting the sovereignty of states.
	You have one of its permanent members violating that very principle.
	And so we would expect China, based on everything it's said in the past, to stand up and make its voice heard.
	Its voice is very important in this.
	God, he's such a flippin' wuss.
	Okay, um... Cut to... Cut to... Why did you say that?
	People in this country say, listen, this is between Russia and Ukraine.
	This has nothing to do with us.
	Your response to that, I think you pretty much answered.
	This is everything to do with you.
	This is not between Russia and Ukraine.
	This is about, you know, the very concept of human rights, sovereign states.
	Are these concepts just on paper for you or do you really believe in them?
	If you really believe in them, then stand up and fight for them.
	But, like, really fight for them.
	It's also about democracy.
	Look, people around the world have been gathering in meetings and protests to stop this war in Ukraine and to urge governments to act now.
	And the governments are telling you people that, look, we know better than you.
	What does that say about democracy?
	Does democracy even exist if the people are speaking and the government is not listening?
	Can we find her?
	Can we find her?
	I'll try, yeah.
	Okay, 20 seconds.
	I'll really start with that.
	Social media?
	Alright.
	Do you want me to do anything, or no?
	We've got Israel here.
	No, I'll do Israel.
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	and video clips but we have to go to our dear dear friends what day is it today it's monday right what's antoinette doing on the line i don't care because it's antoinette line one welcome my dear oh thank you my love listen what we're doing saturday it was a holy hell horrible weekend watching the people in ukraine So this is what we started doing with our phone tree, with our family, Voice for the Voiceless.
	Tomorrow, Tuesday through Thursday, and this is the only time they answer the phone at the White House.
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	Tell him he needs to open up our oil fields.
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	Call the White House.
	Tell that senile git to open up the XL Keystone Pipeline.
	Frack again.
	Frack, baby.
	Frack.
	And get the Ukrainians all the weapons they need.
	Stay on the line.
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	Don, Los Angeles, Line 2.
	Welcome, Don.
	Dr. G, all the Californians are calling.
	Yes!
	We're behind enemy lines, but we're fighting.
	What is your comment?
	What is your question today, Dan?
	Well, real quickly, you know, Dr. G...
	We have this, as you say, we have this problem in the conservative movement, you know, between isolationism and interventionism.
	But it's worse than that!
	It's the conspiracy theorists, right?
	George Soros doesn't like Putin, therefore Ukraine is bad, Don?
	I mean, what kind of math is that?
	Well, you know, Dr. Luttwak wrote an excellent book, The Grand Strategy of the Soviet Union.
	Yes!
	And in there he mentioned that if people are looking for an excuse to avoid a fight that is our fight too.
	They can find any excuse.
	Well, he did this.
	Well, he wore latex.
	Well, he howls at the moon and bathes himself in baboon blood.
	You know, okay.
	They're all excuses.
	It's just putting your head in the sand, hiding under the bed, hiding in the closet, pulling the covers over your head.
	Maybe the boogeyman will go away.
	He won't go away and he won't be satisfied.
	Remember when Winston Churchill said, you know, appeasement is feeding the crocodile, hoping he'll eat you last.
	You know, Putin's hungry.
	He's a little man, but he's very hungry.
	So we need to strike that perfect balance.
	You know, isolationism is wrong because we're too passive.
	Interventionism is wrong because we're too aggressive and we get pulled into stupid fights.
	Realism, pragmatism, peace through strength, picking our spots, being smart, don't go off half-cocked, keep our powder dry, but don't be trigger-happy either.
	And just like the old frontiersmen, just like the old colonists, just like the pioneers, you know, we just got to be smart, pick our spots, but when we strike, we have to strike with a purpose.
	Yeah, you are speaking such sense, and I owe you a debt of gratitude.
	Don, you've reminded me, he wanted to grab a bite to eat, but I think we're going to get him in studio.
	I think it's time to get Professor Luttwak back on America First.
	Thanks for jogging my memory.
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	All right.
	Oh, give me Trudeau, seven.
	I'm sorry, hang on.
	The Trudeau cut 7.
	Jeff wants me to get something here real quick with the Visaki cut.
	I'll call this cut 12.
	And I gotta call Solomon real soon.
	Okay.
	We've come to a moment that, quite frankly, we've seen coming over the past years.
	We've talked about it in the news, not just about Ukraine, but about democracies around the world, that we see a bit of a slippage in our democracies.
	Oh my gosh!
	Countries turning towards slightly more authoritarian leaders.
	And we have him on the line.
	Hey Sam, how are you?
	Good.
	and disinformation to be shared on social media, turning people against the values and the principles of democracies that are so strong.
	And we have him on the line.
	Hey, Sam, how are you?
	Good.
	Are you back on Twitter?
	Nope.
	What?
	What?
	I know.
	I know.
	All right.
	We're going to talk about that.
	No offense at all.
	I mean, it's just driving me nuts.
	Well, you know, it's telling the truth.
	Telling the truth.
	That's your offense.
	That's exactly.
	Wow.
	That is insane.
	All right.
	What are you working on?
	Tonight, we're going to release some video footage on the TV show and then on Justin News showing Alan West's wife's arrest for DUI, which by the way, she wasn't drunk.
	Raising some really serious questions about the police conduct.
	She passed the breathalyzer test.
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	It's a very weird stop.
	I'm a pro cop guy, but... When was that?
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	I did not expect that answer.
	Let all of our radio listeners know, are you still off Twitter?
	I'm still locked out of my account for an offense that they can't even describe what I did wrong.
	Okay, so everybody's not familiar.
	What's the backstory?
	What did you post that got you suspended?
	I posted a factually accurate story about a study done by an NIH contractor in a respected peer-reviewed magazine, and the study itself was peer-reviewed, saying, hey, there may be some issues with the COVID vaccine affecting liver tissue or liver DNA.
	Lots of people have socialized this study.
	Other news organizations have.
	For some reason, I was locked out for doing the same thing.
	And by the way, we had fair comment from the CDC.
	We did all the things a journalist is supposed to do.
	This is just censorship for the purpose of censorship, not for any standards.
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	Are there any instructions?
	Have you been ordered to delete the tweet?
	Or what's the latest?
	No, they just said, wait seven days and maybe you'll be out of jail.
	I don't know.
	It's crazy.
	And you know, I've tried to write them saying, please describe my offense so I don't do it again.
	You can't get any information back.
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	You can't tell even what you did wrong because they won't tell you because they probably don't know that you did anything wrong.
	Yeah, yeah.
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	John, what are you working on for your TV show?
	What's the latest stories you're going to break?
	Yeah, we're going to talk a little bit about John Durham and the filing over the weekend.
	There was a big filing from him.
	Very important.
	Ted, you know who you are, Ted.
	Thank you for sending me the filing as soon as it dropped.
	I've got somebody who just sends me the documents.
	I asked, hey, Dan Bongino, have you got it?
	No, send it to me.
	So give us a little update on what's happening with Durham.
	Listen, he basically, for the first time, accused Hillary Clinton's lawyer, Michael Sussman, of political deceit, of dropping a false allegation on the FBI, and then lying about who he was doing it on behalf of.
	And what Sussman had argued is, he asked the judge, please dismiss these charges, because lying to the FBI should be protected by the First Amendment.
	It's one of his arguments.
	And the second argument is... Hang on, hang on.
	Can you stop there?
	A lawyer actually said that lying to a federal agent is part of the Constitution.
	He basically said that this would have a chilling effect on free speech if he was allowed to be prosecuted for lying to the FBI.
	I'm not making it up.
	You can read it at Just the News.
	It's crazy.
	So there's that argument.
	Then the other argument is that what he told the FBI wasn't material.
	It didn't have an effect, and therefore it can't be prosecuted as a felony.
	Well, John Durham had a very different filing, and he said it was material.
	In fact, if Michael Sussman had told the truth and said he was bringing this to the FBI on behalf of the Clinton campaign and tech aligned with the campaign, The FBI might not have even opened this part of the Russian investigation.
	Well, again, I don't know who his lawyers are, but they seem to be rather cretinous, because it's because of this meeting that the FBI opened an investigation.
	So how can you say it's immaterial to a government?
	Yeah, no, listen, I think that's exactly what John Durham said, which is, I don't get this argument at all, but just in case you do, here, let me give you our side of it.
	It was a very powerful filing.
	And, you know, it also reminds you how much history could have been changed had the Clinton people just told the truth.
	That, I think, is the single biggest headline from this filing.
	And then otherwise, on the show tonight, we used some open records requests.
	We got the body cam footage of the night that Allen West, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, Texas gubernatorial candidate, former Florida congressman, his wife was arrested.
	Angela was arrested for DUI.
	The charges were dropped because it turns out she wasn't intoxicated at all.
	The video footage is very eye-opening.
	It seems to suggest a very unusual episode between police, including the fact that she blew into the breathalyzer, didn't show any alcohol, and they arrested her anyways.
	I think a lot of people are going to be talking about this footage after we air it tonight.
	And you're a big cop guy.
	Your dad was a cop, but there's something, something strange here.
	I want to see that footage.
	That's Real America's Voice tonight.
	Yes, six o'clock tonight on Real America's Voice on Just the News, not noise.
	All right, I've got 60 seconds left.
	Let me run something past you that somebody said to me at CPAC.
	I asked them whether they trust Durham or not.
	And he says Durham is cautious.
	He's always cognizant of the political atmosphere around him, and he's not going to drop the hammer unless there is a big victory for Republicans in the midterms.
	What do you think of that analysis?
	Yeah, it's inconsistent with what I've seen in the conduct of the case.
	This is a guy that just goes about his business.
	He's been doing grand jury fighting, piercing attorney-client privilege.
	I don't think the election is even in the forefront of his mind.
	It certainly is not on the mind of any of the witnesses he's talked to.
	They describe a very professional, leak-free, determined investigation that is trying to get to the truth.
	So, at least from my reporting, I don't see that.
	I understand the suspicion, but I don't see it from the reporting.
	All right.
	Well, we trust your judgment.
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	Welcome to America First.
	What is your comment?
	What is your question?
	I want to say I'm watching on TV.
	I see the newscasters.
	Putin will pay the day of retribution.
	He will suffer.
	Well, I ask when?
	Who in the hell cares about this about a month later, two months later?
	You know, I wake up in the morning, my stomach's in a knot.
	I finished the day off with a bottle of wine, and he's the one that always threatens, and we're the ones that always kowtow to him.
	Always a little too late.
	I don't know what the General's up to.
	I think Millie's probably worried about what color dresses the troops are going to wear next year.
	Yeah.
	But I have two personal tactical ideas.
	Well, you can give me one.
	We've got 40 seconds left.
	Give me one of your ideas, Mark.
	Okay, get some Warthogs in there, low altitude.
	I wish!
	Can you imagine all the Warthog pilots seeing 40 mile long Russian convoys?
	I'm so sad they don't use them anymore.
	Second one, quickly.
	Okay, send in Chinook helicopters with all the tank busters.
	And special forces troops or whatever, disguised as Ukrainians, get into those woods.
	You watch the aerial photos of these 40-mile convoys, get them in the woods, attack them as they move on.
	Also, I used to be an armorer.
	We're out of time, we're out of time, Mark, but those convoys are very, very vulnerable.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, Congresswoman Claudia Tenney next, and Mr. G.
	Thank you.
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	Oh, it's okay.
	Yeah?
	Stephen King has posted a photograph of himself.
	In the Ukrainian shirt, right?
	Yeah.
	I don't usually post pictures of myself, but today's an exception.
	Because he's a hero.
	You know, I said, beats writing books about underage gangbangs, right, Stevie?
	God, he's so weird.
	He's such a pervert.
	Most of his books are just the same thing over and over again.
	Yep.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	And I read The Shining, and I liked it as a book, but like...
	I thought the film was just... The film is better because... What?
	Well, absolutely, because the book, it's very... It's made explicitly clear, yeah, these are real ghosts.
	This is really happening.
	Which do you prefer, the book or the movie?
	Yeah, neither one.
	Was it made before you were born?
	I think it was.
	Just scared of it.
	I wouldn't have watched it either way.
	You don't like horror movies?
	No.
	They're worse than science fiction, right?
	Just about the same.
	John Jr.?
	Yes.
	King?
	Where do you stand?
	Eh, I don't really care.
	Horror movies?
	Horror movies, eh, they have to be done right.
	I'm very particular about what kind of horror movies I like.
	Alright, what do you like?
	Um, the plot's gotta be interesting, the villain's gotta be interesting, there's gotta be some... Alright, give me one.
	Psychological process off the top of my head.
	I don't watch a lot of horror movies.
	John.
	The Thing, obviously.
	Ah, that's science fiction!
	It's science fiction slash horror.
	Okay, fine.
	The original Halloween.
	Yeah, Halloween's a bit interesting.
	But, again, I have to sort of get behind... I want to see a motivation.
	Not just a guy in a mask.
	I like Hitchcock stuff.
	I do like Lovecraft's work.
	I know he was a weird dude.
	Have you seen... What is that one?
	The documentary, I think I know what you're talking about.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	The one in space.
	Event Horizon.
	I did see that one.
	That one is great.
	It's heavy.
	That is pretty awesome.
	I just, this isn't a horror movie, but I just watched Jurassic Park with a bunch of my friends.
	You watched Jurassic Park over the weekend?
	Yeah.
	Me too.
	Oh wow.
	It only, unironically, yeah, no, all it did was it made me appreciate that movie more and maybe hate the new sequels even more.
	Yeah, it just holds up.
	It's one movie that just holds up really, really well.
	The special effects are still incredible.
	Yeah.
	The soundtrack, everything.
	And I see the newer movies.
	I'm just like, what are they doing, man?
	I watched all the Spider-Man movies, the new ones, too.
	Are they any good?
	The newest one was pretty awesome.
	Yeah, the newest one.
	How many times can you reinvent?
	It was good.
	They did a good job with that.
	That's the premise of the third movie.
	They literally brought all of the ones who had played it into it.
	And then they sort of hit the reset button at the end.
	And they're like, okay, now we're gonna go from the beginning.
	It was like fanfiction, but it was well written.
	Exactly.
	It was a very strange movie, but it worked well.
	No, it was good fanfiction.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
	Well, they brought Willem Dafoe back, which was great.
	Oh, what, as the goblin?
	Yeah.
	Yes!
	He was so good.
	So he's in the movie, which is great.
	What about Franco?
	Did Franco die in the other one?
	He died in the other one.
	No, he's not in that movie, but... I like the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man.
	But yeah, you would not realize it had been 20 years since Willem Dafoe played that guy.
	Who's the guy who plays Doc Ock?
	Alfred Molina.
	He's tremendous in that movie.
	He carried, like, a good part of it, too.
	Never forget, of course, his very first movie role ever.
	Indiana Jones' lackluster beginning of Raiders.
	Throw me the whip!
	I throw you the idol!
	No time to argue!
	Adios, senor.
	Adios, sapido.
	Ah, so good.
	Other than that, yeah, there's not a lot of movies out there that seem to interest me, especially not this year.
	And that thing, he was petrified of spiders.
	And they weren't doing anything, they were just sitting on his back, not moving, so they put a female in the middle of them, and that's when they went crazy.
	Adios, sapido.
	So good.
	Can't wait for Indiana Jones 5, right?
	No!
	No!
	Sacrilege!
	You know, the trailer for the newest Jurassic World movie too, the third and final one, the world trilogy, they're bringing back all the original characters from the first movie.
	I know, it's gonna be such an abortion.
	Yeah, they're gonna, let's see, which of these characters are gonna die in the new movie?
	They're gonna kill Alan Grant, I'm calling it.
	Yeah, I just stopped watching new movies.
	I saw the first world and I was like, yeah.
	I haven't watched any of the new Star Wars ones, I haven't watched any of the new Jurassic Parks, any of that.
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	Breaking news headline, Pentagon colon.
	They do love their colons, don't they, Jeff?
	Who says that?
	Who do we have to give credit to?
	Chris Plant.
	Chris Plant.
	But it is right.
	I mean, there is something about colons.
	I think so, yeah.
	I think he means the other type.
	Anyway, Pentagon colon, the US will not send troops to Ukraine.
	OK, here's a little rule for you, Mark Milley.
	This goes for Bill Clinton during the Balkan Wars as well, when he said, we will not deploy air assets over Serbian territory.
	There's a little rule of thumb in warfare.
	Never tell the bad guy two things.
	Number one, what you're going to do.
	And number two, what you're not going to do.
	It's not rocket surgery, as they say.
	It's not brain engineering.
	Why?
	Because if you say what you will or will not do, the bad guy modifies his plans to exploit your unwillingness to do something or undermines the thing you say you are doing.
	But hey, when you've got Mark Milley calling up the Chinese saying, If the boss declares war on China, don't worry, I'll give you a heads up.
	Bloody rank amateurs.
	Nobody's saying deploy troops to Ukraine, and even if we wanted to, you don't tell the world what you are doing in advance.
	But what should we expect?
	This is the face of diplomacy.
	Now, what is diplomacy?
	Diplomacy is the velvet glove inside the steel gauntlet.
	It has to work hand-in-glove, symbiotically, complementary to the use of force.
	Without the threat of force or the use of force, diplomacy is irrelevant.
	And right now we have what?
	Antony Beta Boy Blinken is the Chief Diplomat of the United States.
	A man who, I haven't seen him once in two weeks since the war erupted.
	Nicely done, look at that.
	Eric just, I mention his name and up he pops in the b-roll.
	Nicely done.
	I haven't seen one speech.
	Mr. G, are you there?
	I am.
	Have you seen any speech in the last two weeks where Blinken made you think, Wow that guy's angry or tough or at least he's actually got gonads.
	No it's the complete boring scripted nothing.
	Not one?
	I haven't seen one.
	Nothing.
	Well he's like even fakes being angry.
	Not at all.
	Okay we're gonna we're gonna show you this is what this is a clip from yesterday wasn't it Sunday morning?
	Yes.
	Okay this is Anthony Beta Boy Blinken on Meet the Press about the serious conversations we're having.
	Cut five.
	You know, China, Suk, I spoke to the President and the Cabinet, the leading members of the Cabinet, about this just yesterday from Europe.
	And we are now in very active discussions with our European partners about banning the import of Russian oil to our countries, while, of course, at the same time, maintaining a steady global supply of oil.
	Yes, we are having active discussions about not buying Russian oil.
	We buy more oil from Russia than we do from Saudi Arabia.
	Here's one data point to share with your liberal friends, those Democrat voters who may still talk to you.
	Our reliance on Russian oil right now is oil is nudging $130 a barrel.
	Eric, look for me the price of oil under the Trump administration.
	Just look at the lowest it went and just whisper in my ear or send me a text.
	Right now it's gone past $110 a barrel.
	And at the moment we are buying 600,000 barrels a day.
	A day!
	You do the math, okay?
	Multiply 600,000 by $120.
	From Russia, which goes right in to the government coffers.
	There is no free market in Russia.
	It is a fascist state.
	If you're making millions or billions, you're doing so with the acquiescence, with the permission of Putin.
	Nobody is a free actor in Russia.
	Now, remember that number, 600,000 barrels a day.
	The Exxon Keystone pipeline extension, which was axed day one of the administration, Why?
	Reasons.
	Because AOC.
	No, not price of gas.
	Price per barrel of oil.
	Crude oil.
	Price per barrel.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Gas was that.
	Eric texted me.
	Do you remember when gas was $2.20?
	$2.20!
	What did you pay yesterday, Jeff?
	In Maryland, you stopped to get gas.
	What was it cost you?
	$4.91 a gallon.
	$4.91.
	Thanks, Biden.
	Remember that old, thanks, Obama?
	We've got to record a new one.
	Thanks, Joe.
	More than a doubling of the cost of gas.
	And don't talk to me about, oh, it's just the Russian war.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	It's because he shut the Keystone pipeline.
	Sorry, sorry, I'm getting off track here.
	So, 600,000 barrels of oil a day from Russia.
	Now, more than we buy from Saudi Arabia.
	If the Keystone pipeline had not been stopped, If we'd been allowed to buy oil from Canada through a safe pipeline, which by the way, by the way, is the safest way to transport oil.
	Do we have that cut from, what's her name?
	Peppermint Patty?
	Okay, so we'll get to that in a second.
	This is a play, this is less than an hour ago.
	If we had the XL Keystone pipeline, we would be getting 800,000 barrels a day from Canada.
	Eight, we could literally say no.
	We could flip the switch on Russia and we'd have an excess.
	We'd have 200,000 barrels more coming in from Canada on a safe pipeline than we are buying from Russia right now!
	But no, because Peppermint Patty.
	Let's listen to Jen Psaki.
	This was, what was it, less than an hour ago, right?
	This is in the White House, in the press briefing room.
	This is Peter Doocy asking some questions about, well, why aren't you reopening the Exxon Keystone Pipeline?
	And these are the unbelievable things she says in response.
	Jen Psaki.
	Would President Biden ever undo his executive order that stopped the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline?
	Are you suggesting that would solve the gas prices issue?
	Well, do you think that that would maybe affect prices faster than getting the whole country off of fossil fuels?
	I actually don't think it would.
	The Keystone was not an oil field.
	It's a pipeline.
	Also, the oil is continuing to flow in just through other means.
	So it actually would have nothing to do with the current supply imbalance.
	I don't know what to say.
	Can someone just take over the show?
	Eric, John, how stupid is this woman?
	Jumping.
	There is just absolutely no low to which she won't sink in her role as press secretary, as far as I'm concerned.
	Economics 101.
	Yeah, and physics!
	And physics!
	I mean, think of this.
	She's talking about getting us off fossil fuels.
	There is a war happening right now.
	Even if you could, which you can't, get a nation off fossil fuels.
	Sorry, what is it President Trump used to say?
	Sorry dear, we can't watch the TV tonight because the wind's not blowing.
	Okay, I mean, you can't.
	What are we going to do?
	Convert the whole nation.
	And by the way, Jen Psaki, I'm sure she drives a Prius.
	She drives a Tesla.
	Did you see what Tesla tweeted?
	Oh my gosh, we're going to talk about that next.
	Even if you drive a Tesla or a Virtue signaling Prius, where'd you get the electricity from?
	I wonder if she wonders where it comes from.
	It comes from that plug in the wall, right?
	It's a magic, magic electricity.
	You're not going to get us off fossil fuels.
	Can't be done.
	And by the way, you condemn the rest of the world to poverty.
	I guess, you know, Africa doesn't get fossil fuels.
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	The more we see children are eating the leaves from the trees.
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	The fossil fuels.
	You're living in La La Land.
	You don't... She's just dumb!
	She's thick as a brick!
	But we don't have the infrastructure for that.
	We have to totally... I just can't.
	We have to redo all of our... And what's China gonna do in the meantime?
	Oh, they'll be off fossil fuels, right?
	It's not like there's a dire threat in the world or anything.
	No.
	Every time I hear her now, I just get angrier and angrier.
	It's really stupid!
	It's that they convince other people that this is true.
	That, you know, there's... You know, you can just flip a switch.
	If people were only willing to, we could get off of us.
	Ooh, here's a good t-shirt.
	What do you think, guys?
	Somebody DM me.
	The fight for freedom is timeless.
	Is what?
	Is timeless?
	With a picture of Zaleski or something?
	Yeah, a little bit of a Washington there, some colonials.
	I still love the idea of a movie poster.
	Just like, you know, Ukraine 2022 or something like that.
	The Betsy Ross flag draped over Ukraine.
	I like that.
	Over, like, the outline of the nation of Ukraine?
	Yeah.
	Oh, OK.
	What do you think?
	All right.
	I can dig it.
	He can dig it.
	He can dig it.
	He's hip.
	He's a hip cat.
	Eric, you're a hip cat.
	That's far out.
	I'm going to send this to Randy.
	That's good.
	Wow, $43 a barrel.
	I love when I get friends telling me who are still, like, dumping on me for using the Metro, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, tell me again about what those gas prices are like right now.
	She's ready to connect.
	Okay, I'll call her up right now.
	Skype channel one, I'll let her know the mics are live.
	Okay, we've got Israel here.
	Two minutes.
	Okay.
	Hello, Congresswoman, can you hear us?
	Yeah, just letting you know the mics are live on our online live streams at this moment.
	Claudia?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	How you doing?
	Good.
	Good.
	Welcome back.
	Oh, there we go.
	You got it.
	Is this right?
	We're radio, right?
	We're radio, but we're video as well.
	We stream the video on Rumble as well.
	Okay.
	80 seconds to radio, but again, we are on Rumble.
	We're live on the video stream in the breaks.
	We need to get you in studio for a longer discussion.
	I was in there once for an hour.
	I know, I know.
	We love it.
	Do you want to talk about curling?
	About what?
	I'm kidding.
	I like curling.
	I got my old broom right here.
	I used to watch curling.
	People think I'm crazy.
	That's the original curling broom.
	Wow.
	1975 teenage curling champion right here.
	Are you serious?
	You're not pulling my leg?
	No, I went to the silver broom curling school.
	How many people do you know did that?
	As of now, one.
	All right, we're getting back in the studio.
	I want the evidence.
	I want photographic material.
	I want videos.
	We're going to do a curling event.
	We're going to do one.
	30 seconds.
	I can pot it up a little bit.
	You never cease to surprise me.
	Stand by.
	It looks fine.
	Yes, 20 seconds.
	Standing by.
	All right.
	Israel here.
	Step up.
	Step up.
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	I just found out something interesting about her.
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	I had no idea.
	But right now, we have far more important things to talk about.
	Representing New York's 22nd Congressional District, Congresswoman Claudia Tenney.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you.
	It's great to be on.
	I'll give you a curling lesson.
	I'm telling you, it's the best sport in the Winter Olympics, which I did not watch this year because I will not watch the Genocide Olympics, but I still stand by our athletes and especially the curlers.
	It's a real sport, trust me.
	Well, I actually watched that when I was a kid on British television and I used to watch these sheepdog trials.
	I know, real peculiar combination.
	That looks fun.
	Yeah, I mean, those dogs are incredible.
	OK, let's talk about geopolitics.
	I've just retweeted, you are having a teletown hall for your constituents, so if you're in a 22nd district, tomorrow you can have your questions answered by Congresswoman Tenney.
	Top of your Twitter feed, it's about gas prices, an interview you did on Fox.
	I just railed against Saki, gave a press briefing moments ago where she said, Yeah, yeah.
	Well, XL Keystone, we don't really need it because we need to get off fossil fuels, which is not going to happen.
	How is it that we still have an administration that refuses to stop buying Russian oil, Congresswoman?
	You know, this is the America First show.
	This is the America Last agenda for this administration, as we all know.
	This is a turning point in our country right now.
	We have allowed the Russians to manipulate our energy supply.
	There's evidence and even the former NATO, head of NATO, what was his name, Anders Rasmussen, said in 2014, yeah, they had evidence that the Russians were using disinformation, almost a hundred million dollars, trying to manipulate Europeans and Americans and move them away from fossil fuels, especially natural gas, and move them away and make them dependent on Russia.
	It's, you know, talk about Russia collusion hoax.
	This is the Russians' disinformation campaign to put the West in a position where we're dependent on Putin and he's leveraging his greatest weapon, which is energy and gas.
	And here we are in this horrible situation where the Democrats are so hung up on their Green New Deal and Greta Thunberg or whoever it is they're buying into now.
	And I'm sitting here in upstate New York and in our region, in upstate New York, we have among the best shale that is Utica and Marcellus shale that's up in the Northeast.
	And we have a ban on safe, responsible hydraulic fracturing in New York because of the leftist Democrats and the climate activists who are being manipulated by none other than Vladimir Putin, who we now know is a murderous dictator.
	We always knew that.
	But he's proving himself live on our TVs every single night.
	It is getting more gruesome and more heart-wrenching to watch what's happening.
	It's just tragic.
	And we and Jen Psaki sitting there giving all these reasons.
	I think she has like a nine point explanation.
	Incredibly, on her Twitter feed that talks about why we need to go back to green and renewables, which are not reliable.
	Electrification are not going to accommodate the world.
	It's not going to keep us prosperous and energy secure.
	Congressman Tenney, can you help me for a moment?
	Because I opened the show with a monologue on.
	You have clarity on these issues.
	You've just described who Putin really is.
	You know the region.
	You've worked in the region.
	Why are they conservatives?
	And every day I get these comments on my Twitter feed, on Facebook, who say Vladimir is the good guy.
	We provoked him.
	He's, for some reason, suddenly the KGB colonel who's representing Christians in Europe and there's Nazis running around Ukraine, which is weird because the president's Jewish.
	Can you help me understand how to deal with this level of disinformation on our side?
	I'm getting it all the time, too, on my page, and I think it could very well be another Russian disinformation campaign where they're manipulating people that they think maybe will believe this information because they don't trust the media, the mainstream media, which none of us do.
	We can't.
	We know that we can't trust them, which is why we're in this really interesting age in our country where for the first time we have an overload of information.
	And it's hard to know what's true.
	And then some, you know, reliable information is getting censored by the big tech companies.
	And so people have no trust in faith, just like they have no faith in our elections, they have no faith in our government.
	And yet all these people are, there's this whole There's this conspiracy-type theory that the Ukrainians are actually invading Russia, and the Russians are under siege, and Putin is the good guy, and they're not seeing or understanding the footage, this raw footage.
	I just am not sure what it is, but I know it's a lack of belief and mistrust in our system, starting with the lies from the mainstream media, to the election integrity issues we had last year, and the lack of faith in our election system.
	And people are rightfully concerned.
	But to buy this kind of, like, Putin is the good guy, I don't understand it.
	And you're seeing it on some mainstream media, or even some mainstream right-side, right-leaning media.
	But I've noticed some of them are kind of walking it back a bit.
	But I think one of the biggest problems is that a lot of these people misinterpret what America First is.
	America first is not isolationism.
	And I think that's what I'm seeing a lot of.
	They just assume, well, why did we go into this war or that war?
	And I agree with them.
	We have gone into places and had an interventionist policies in places where we didn't have a stake in it.
	But right now, we're looking at world domination.
	We're looking at a guy like Putin, who is a very small country, an economy the size of Texas, who's projecting as a world power because he's got China, he's got bad actors like Iran that he's working with, he bombed Syria, and he's been an active player in malevolence around the world.
	I don't know if that's what people are not seeing, but this is about getting back the old power that he had with the old USSR, the old Soviet Union, using the energy issue and any disinformation campaign he can.
	And I say to these people, Russia is not going to drive into the United States with tanks, just as China's not.
	They're going to use what they can.
	Their leverage is economy and gas right now and oil and energy.
	and that's what they're using against us.
	While our administration is projecting weakness, We're a world power.
	We're supposed to be the most powerful nation in the world.
	We're supposed to be dominant economically.
	We were energy independent.
	You know, we've cut all of our ability to do that off now, or we're minimizing it, which is why you're seeing the market tanking today.
	And they're taking advantage of it.
	This is what happens when America is weak, the world is in chaos.
	And that's exactly what has been created under Joe Biden and these terrible policies.
	It's a tragic situation.
	It's exactly what happened in the eight years of the Obama-Biden administration, when there was no American leadership, there was an international apology tour, there was a rise of ISIS, the rise of China, Russia invading Ukraine, and now it's happening again.
	For four years we had peace, And now it's happening again.
	Tenny.house.gov.
	Rep Tenny on Twitter.
	She's promised she's going to come in studio with her curling broom next time.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	God bless.
	This is America First.
	Mics are back on.
	Congresswoman, you still there?
	Yeah, I'm still here.
	All right, that was superb.
	Let's try and get you in studio when it's convenient.
	Yeah, you're done.
	All right, great.
	No, thank you.
	Good talking to you.
	All right, bye-bye.
	All right, bye.
	All right.
	What?
	What's that comment?
	What's that?
	In the rumble chat, Jabari308 says, the left and conservatives said the same thing about Ron Paul.
	Look, he's an isolationist.
	Well, he is.
	Yeah.
	I never understood the craze about Ron Paul, especially in my time.
	I never got it either!
	Geoff, did you get it?
	No, it was weird.
	I don't get that and I don't get Bernie.
	They are very similar.
	Why did you get Bernie?
	Because the crazy liberals love him.
	He hated every business there ever was.
	You know what I mean?
	And Ron Paul was pretty much the Bernie of the right, if we're being honest.
	Yeah, I think that's a good- He was all about the Fed, I never understood why- Abolish the Fed and re-establish the gold standard.
	He understood that issue, you know what I mean?
	The gold standard!
	The gold standard, which- Yeah.
	I get the idea!
	Jekyll Island!
	Dun dun duuuun!
	And, sure, abolish the Fed is a great slogan, but I doubt it could literally ever happen.
	You can't abolish the Fed, it's just not possible.
	I might have to have you record a little merch drop in the front of the D segment because we cut at seven and a half to eight and a half.
	Oh, okay.
	Just work out how long it is.
	Yeah, it's exactly a minute.
	It was just the old time, not the new time.
	Okay, good.
	So with the reed.
	Should be good.
	Just like a, yeah, just like a minute intro.
	Say, welcome back and then all that.
	Easy.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So I've got to do Fiona Hill.
	Oh, can you get Casio to do three?
	Two.
	Have we used two?
	We played two?
	We have?
	Yeah, I guess.
	I don't know, we did it in a break, or did we play it?
	We did not, we came in with it.
	No, that was the mother, that was three.
	Oh, I'm sorry, no, we have not yet.
	Alright, can you get Caster to do two and three, uh... Oh, and seven!
	Unreal.
	And I'm gonna use ten here as well.
	You're gonna T it up?
	Yeah...
	Actually, I might use 10 with Jeff.
	That's right, we have Mr. G's radio debut coming up.
	It's not his radio debut.
	Is it his first time on- well, you had him on CPAC, I think.
	The CPAC show.
	I do?
	Yeah.
	On a segment, yeah.
	It's so memorable, he's not sure.
	Oh, those cigars are good!
	I was surprised how strong they were.
	I had two of them yesterday.
	And I can't tell if it's because I haven't been smoking much, but yeah.
	They're good.
	Yeah, it was pretty strong.
	Gentlemen, have you smoked a cigar?
	I haven't had a chance yet.
	Eric!
	I tried that first one you gave me a while back.
	I haven't tried these new ones.
	You had a perfect day yesterday to do it.
	It was really good.
	Yeah, I sat outside in the garden.
	It was nice.
	Very nice.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	I'm just enjoying my new freedom of being able to go back into DC.
	I need to go back to air and space.
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	This next clip is from Lesia Vasilenko, Ukrainian, not PM, MP, right?
	You've got PM on here.
	She's a Member of Parliament, I think.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, good.
	A little bit of dyslexia going on in our soundbites there.
	Explaining why, look, this isn't, this isn't about Ukraine and Russia.
	This is much, much bigger.
	Heartfelt interview.
	Let's listen to Member of Parliament Lesia Vasilenko.
	People in this country say, listen, this is between Russia and Ukraine, this has nothing to do with us.
	Your response to that, I think you pretty much answered that.
	This is everything to do with you.
	This is not between Russia and Ukraine.
	This is about, you know, the very concept of human rights, sovereign states.
	Are these concepts just on paper for you, or do you really believe in them?
	If you really believe in them, then stand up and fight for them.
	But like really fight for them.
	It's also about democracy.
	Look, people around the world have been gathering in meetings and protests to stop this war in Ukraine and to urge governments to act now.
	And the governments are telling you people that, look, we know better than you.
	What does that say about democracy?
	Does democracy even exist if the people are speaking and the government is not listening and saying that they know best?
	I'm sorry, but in this case, they don't know best.
	Good for her.
	If we say that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness mean something, then guess what?
	It's not just for Americans, and it doesn't mean you're an interventionist.
	It just means that you should be on the side of the Ukrainians.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Bill, St.
	Paul, line one.
	Yeah, I just wanted to remind folks about the hue and cry called no blood for oil, and I think we should modify it and say no Ukrainian blood for oil.
	Okay, nicely done.
	Thank you.
	Joe, Illinois, line two.
	Hey, doctor.
	Yeah, Putin just threatened to bomb Poland.
	If they give fighter planes to the Ukraine.
	He's done lots of things in the last few days.
	He has said that an imposition of a no-fly zone itself would also be an act of war.
	And don't forget he raised the alert of the nuclear weapons.
	So there's a lot of killing going on and a lot of saber-rattling and a lot of blasters as well, Joe.
	It's game on, Dr. G. And sleepy, sleepy Biden needs to start parking assets close to him and Great Britain.
	Well, Great Britain has already done it.
	I mean, little old Great Britain has already, already in the last week, deployed 2,000 troops to just one of the Baltic states already.
	Stop it.
	Stop it.
	It's the only thing he understands is force, you know.
	I mean, we would annihilate them.
	I mean, that's the bottom line.
	We have air superiority, and he just needs to understand, with his nuclear threats and stuff like that, that if we park enough assets close and NATO needs to start pumping troops in, And that's what he understands.
	He doesn't understand anything else.
	Well, what do bullies and thugs understand?
	The only thing they understand is that you can't negotiate with a bully.
	You can't sit down and have nice little negotiations with your diplomats if you're run by a bully.
	No, it's not happening.
	Thank you, Joe.
	And on the question of superiority, thanks to Dan Bongino, who alerted me to this study from RUSI.
	This is the Royal United Services Institute in the UK.
	Is the Russian Air Force actually incapable of complex air operations?
	There's a lot of this analysis going around saying that, you know, we know how to do complex air operations we always have done since world war ii gulf one uh even after september the 11th now we have a russian war in which it looks like they can't do multi-vehicle complex operations they simply don't have the expertise and also the flight figures fascinating uh russian pilots Fly half the amount of time that US pilots do.
	Half.
	That is going to have a detrimental effect on your capacity to actually do real live operations.
	We'll give you more details.
	This is America First coming to you from just outside the swamp.
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	To sit in the second chair.
	Yes!
	Um, what do we need?
	You need a minute, right?
	Oh, we'll do that at the top of the hour.
	We'll do... Oh yeah, that now.
	And I'll let you hear the playing, too.
	Did you put makeup on?
	Yeah.
	Oh, we didn't kill that.
	Which one is it?
	This one?
	Yeah, that one.
	Hey, uh, I don't think he's familiar with this.
	Let him know that the mics are on.
	The mics are on in trailer drama.
	Who booked this guy?
	Yeah, I got the cameras.
	I never realized how close this is to the wall here.
	This guest chair.
	Yeah.
	Does it feel uncomfortable? - Yeah.
	No, you just can't go that far back, that's all.
	Come over this way a little bit.
	Okay, good.
	Alright.
	Make him look good, Eric!
	I'm working on it!
	He's making sure to get a lot of that red light on the side there.
	What's the red light for, anyway?
	A little bit of color.
	- Yeah, there's the blue light behind him, behind Seb.
	- Oh, you don't have your list that you gave me.
	How did you send that to me?
	Was that a text?
	I texted it to you before.
	Okay.
	Let me see.
	Come on.
	70 seconds.
	Can Sata do Skype from Paris?
	He said he can come in next week.
	Oh, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	Watching show prep happen on camera.
	Yeah, he's back Friday, so next week he can do it anyway.
	Oh, do we know who, um... Hanson wants for Thursday?
	I haven't gotten that far yet, but we'll find out.
	Doesn't feel like a Monday.
	Does not.
	It really doesn't, no.
	So weird.
	Where is it?
	Bolton is such a creep.
	What did he do now?
	Well, that latest interview about, you know, Trump would have pulled us out of NATO.
	Why didn't he?
	Why do they always say that?
	He was president for four years.
	Do you remember that?
	Alright, 20 seconds.
	Standing by. Standing
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	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
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	Now, in studio, traveled very great distances to get here, is none other Then my producer, the producer of the best show in radio, it's Mr. G!
	Jeff, welcome.
	I know, this is interesting.
	I'm looking at something that I have not seen.
	I've sat five feet from here for three and a half years.
	I'm admiring everything that's behind you.
	You've been behind me, behind a glass screen, hiding behind a monitor, because you don't like to be seen when you're working.
	Is this true?
	I'm usually working, that's why.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	You're busy.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	And you're having a lot of fun, correct?
	Exactly.
	Good.
	All right, I'm going to do what I always do with guests.
	Who are you, and how did you get here?
	We know that.
	No, no, no, because you've done lots of cool stuff before you did this.
	Well, I worked for a really good person in news before this, but that wasn't the best of experiences.
	But you've done radio before, right?
	Yes.
	Tell us about all the radio back then.
	In my 20s, I did sports talk radio.
	I did it in Philadelphia for a while.
	I was one of the youngest people actually in the country then.
	We became an ESPN affiliate.
	I could see what was happening then, how it was going woke.
	So I got out of sports and I wanted to do news and politics.
	And why do you hate science fiction?
	What's to like about it?
	Oh my gosh!
	It's a dagger in the heart.
	It can't happen.
	That's why.
	It's make-believe.
	What?
	You mean nursery rhymes are bad too?
	That's what it is.
	It's nursery rhymes in cartoons for adults.
	That's what science fiction is.
	Exactly.
	And I'm 14 years old mentally.
	Okay, Jeff.
	Are you having fun here?
	Yes, I am.
	What should we do differently?
	With what?
	The show!
	You've got millions of people listening, right?
	You've got me on the line.
	You can really nail me now.
	What would you like?
	Because we don't do any sports, right?
	Yeah, I know.
	But it's not a time for sports.
	Does that make you sad?
	Sports, I'm becoming less and less interested in sports lately.
	Anything you'd do differently if you were the producer of this show?
	We talk about that all the time.
	We've got plans, guys.
	Exciting, right?
	Imminently, our new studio.
	Yes.
	It's going to be good.
	It's going to be great.
	The reason I've got him in here, this guy has the, outside of one other person, who I used to work for, this man has the best political instincts ever.
	I mean, his gut sense is just amazing, especially on candidates and issues.
	And you're helping me deal with the question of what's happening on the right.
	First things first, are you worried by this kind of cleavage of screw Ukraine and anyway, they're all owned by George Soros?
	Or do we make too much of this?
	No because I even I would say not I'd say maybe a month ago six weeks ago when you kind of saw what happening I kind of went into a little bit like kind of the who cares you know a little bit yeah um and I'm guilty of it too and I actually spent it's funny that you asked me to do this today I spent a lot of time yesterday when I was smoking that cigar by myself yesterday I was trying to think about it and what happened to it, and there's three things I'd say.
	Number one, and the biggest reason this is happening, we've talked about this before, it's because the media that has lied to us so much for years and years and years and years, people are saying I'm not going to get fooled again.
	I think that's exactly what's one of the biggest things.
	This is what Claudia Tenney just said, that people have been deceived for so long, they don't buy the first version of anything.
	Exactly.
	Just look at COVID.
	Between the masks, the vaccines, the shutdown, the social distancing, everything lied over and over again.
	The same people are now going to try and push something on you.
	Your light's going to go up.
	You know what?
	I'm not going to get fooled again.
	There's also a big hangover, I still think, from the Iraq war.
	Yes.
	That was done by both sides, the establishments kind of drawing us into it.
	And people are saying to myself, I don't believe you.
	Yeah.
	My response, brutally honest, which is what he is always, I get very angry.
	I've done it on this show.
	I did it earlier today when, you know, that woman DM'd me and said, oh, do you like Zelensky now?
	Because she plays me a clip, a comedy riff where he's, you know, in latex and high heels.
	Do we try and gently get these people to understand they're being fooled?
	How do we help people who say they're conservatives but are actually strengthening Putin?
	Well, here's what you've got to forget about.
	Don't worry about Zelensky.
	He's the leader.
	I don't know anything about him, to be honest with you, whether he's good or bad.
	That has nothing to do with it.
	Once you start seeing these images, it's about the Ukrainian people and you have a communist, we hate communism, who's rolling tanks and trying to take over a country.
	It's about the Ukrainian people and stopping this communist march.
	And when somebody who says they're conservative, because I don't think these are all bots, I think these are real Americans, say on my feed, Well, you do know this KGB colonel, he's a big Christian and he's pro-Christian.
	Can I not get pissed at that, Geoff?
	No, thank you.
	I don't even know how you believe that.
	That's just, that's decades of being lied to by the establishment and the media.
	It's beating these people down.
	Alright, so fun to have you in studio.
	Last question.
	He's already working, he's on his phone, he's so busy!
	He's always running this show even when he's a guest.
	You've got to give us your take.
	November, midterms, MAGA, growing, weakening, versus the Swamp, the Rhinos.
	Where are you right now?
	Um, I would say even if Biden and the Democrats did a good job up until two weeks ago, just what's happened the last two weeks with Ukraine and the gas prices, they're going to get hammered.
	They cannot overcome these gas prices.
	How about this?
	Because I've seen Democrats say this.
	A president at war always gets reelected.
	Yeah, right.
	This guy's not at war.
	He's not even in D.C.
	half the time.
	He's not doing anything.
	He's not a wartime leader.
	Alright, so that's garbage.
	Complete garbage.
	And if we win, if we trounce him, if we take back the Senate, the Reiners are still going to be in control, no?
	Yeah, that's a little bit of a problem.
	How much time do we have here?
	We've got a minute.
	Here's what I want.
	Investigation after investigation after investigation.
	The same thing they did to Trump, do it to them, but actually have some people get in trouble.
	So they don't do it anymore.
	Are you uncomfortable that you can't see the clock right now, Mr. Chief?
	Yeah, have you noticed that?
	That's why I was looking at it.
	Yeah, I was trying to subtract the 30 seconds that were on delay from the live time to try and figure out what the clock was.
	Hey, don't give everything away.
	Everybody knows radio is a delay.
	30 seconds.
	But those punks that used to call us from their mom's basement, did they know that?
	No, the ones that we used to put on hold when the show was over because they didn't even realize the show was over?
	No, no, no.
	The ones you used to call up and then troll on their YouTube channels.
	That was the best.
	On your way home from work.
	Yeah, what happened to that guy?
	Where have you gone?
	Did your mom take her phone back?
	Oh, so sad.
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	relieffactor.com that's 800-500-8384 relieffactor.com jeff get back to work you think we're getting back for a one-on-one Yeah.
	Unironically, a one-on-one would be a really cool idea.
	I think we should do a one-on-one where the three of us interview anything.
	The team interrogates you.
	That'd be fun for a weekend thing, like on a holiday weekend.
	That should be a pay-per-view event.
	We need one more mic though, right?
	You've got to control it.
	You'd have to board up and then we could have Jeff and then Eric.
	But then the video, how do we do the video?
	He could put this camera on.
	Just set it up.
	Then we'd always just be on.
	Just set it for the three of us.
	I like that.
	That is interesting.
	I think it's a fun idea.
	Gotta keep it clean, though.
	Oh, of course.
	Keep it clean.
	Always, always.
	That means you, Eric.
	Oh, titles for Tenny and that Jeff guy.
	There you go.
	Oh, titles for Tenny and that Jeff guy.
	That Jeff guy.
	What's with all the conspiracy theories?
	Which one's that?
	Geoff.
	Oh, OK.
	Who said about the Christians?
	I haven't heard that.
	Oh, every day!
	Every day!
	The him fighting the globalists thing is the biggest thing for me.
	It's people who want to be one step ahead of the public.
	There's a big section of conservatives that want to be one step ahead.
	That's why they follow all this crazy garbage.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	If you have information like last week where you read off sort of like the action plan, I feel like that would fill the void for a lot of that.
	They just, they want to have the extra information.
	Wait, ten seconds.
	MyPillow, do you want the audio?
	Uh, yeah.
	Alright.
	That sounds good.
	Say bye.
	Not that the FBI is even sniffing and looking.
	But what if somebody came in and said, you know what?
	We are going to subpoena all his account records and this and that and then all of a sudden we make the news.
	So it's more of a reputation risk.
	How about your reputation, now Heartland Financial, trying to shut down nine of Mike Lindell's bank accounts, including his personal account and the account for his foundation that supports former rehabilitated drug addicts.
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	Oh, how did you do, guys?
	What do you think?
	John, how did Mr. G do?
	I thought it was thoroughly entertaining.
	Hey, well, I think it was good radio.
	Eric?
	I unironically think we should bring that guy back for a one-on-one.
	Hey, what about the idea that he had afterwards?
	Jeff, what was your idea?
	The three of us do a one-on-one with you where we ask you anything.
	Do I still get to sit in the big chair?
	No.
	Oh, that's sad.
	All right, let's do it.
	Let's do it.
	Okay, guys, this, I was on British TV earlier today.
	This cut was played for me to comment on.
	And magically, Mr. G also found it as well.
	This is from 2018.
	This is President Trump talking to the Europeans about Russia.
	Cut 10.
	Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy.
	If it does not immediately change course.
	Here in the Western Hemisphere we are committed to maintaining our independence from the encroachment of expansionist foreign powers.
	And the German delegation is just laughing.
	If you didn't see the video, if you're just listening on radio, they were sitting there chortling.
	I wonder if they're laughing now as they've done a 180 on shutting down all the nuclear power stations in Germany because Or the fact that they're finally, after decades of being asked to spend 2% of their GDP on defence, which is the NATO standard, which President Trump said, if you're serious about being an ally, you pay your dues.
	Oh, now they're going to do it?
	Sad thing is, Ukrainians had to die and are dying for them to do that which President Trump warned them about.
	Four years ago.
	Sheer, utter insanity.
	Next up, a man who I think is almost daily.
	There you go, the Germans chortling away in the United Nations.
	We have a man who is almost a daily guest with Steve Bannon on The War Room.
	We need to get old Stevie back on the show.
	It's the Baron Boris Epstein.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, make sure you stay on this channel, America First.
	America First
	America First He's become a kind of international man of ministry.
	We can't pin him down.
	He used to be in the studio basically every single week, but now it's the odd Skype interview.
	He's such a man in demand.
	We call him the Baron, but we've got him this week.
	He is in studio one-on-one.
	Boris Epstein, it's good to see you in the flesh.
	It's great to see you, my friend.
	You look great.
	Likewise.
	You look a bit of sun.
	I've been out west.
	Having cigars outside.
	Having cigars outside by the fire.
	We gotta talk about serious stuff, we gotta talk about fun stuff, but since cigars have been mentioned, I just came from the post office where this arrived.
	And this is with a little letter.
	I won't give everybody's details away.
	I'll just say, Jim!
	Jim, who is the man who has promised to provide us with Dr. G cigars, So this is the largest ones they currently make.
	This is Casapuros.
	This is a 60 gauge.
	And I think we have to try these later today.
	So, dear sir, please help yourself to one of the Casapuros cigars.
	So kind.
	Thank you.
	A good size.
	A good size.
	Wow.
	Solid size.
	That should last about 30 minutes, I think.
	So we have to get this.
	We end up talking about cigars sooner or later.
	Okay, so let's get it out of the way right now.
	Beautiful.
	I'm gonna give it a smell.
	I need a report, though.
	You can smell it now.
	I'll smell it now.
	I'll pour it back later.
	When you take it, when you smoke it, we need the full report the next time you're on the show.
	Ooh.
	It's good?
	Great.
	A little earthy, a little spicy.
	A little coffee to it.
	Ooh.
	All right, now we're talking.
	A little spice.
	I love it.
	We will give you full reports.
	All right, we'll give a full review.
	We'll do, you know, taste.
	Smoke.
	A cheeky little cigar.
	We'll give you a full review.
	Okay, so we have so much to discuss.
	Where were you born?
	Was it Illinois or was it Kansas?
	It was Ohio.
	I'm a native Ohioan.
	Yeah, I was born in Moscow, we ran away as refugees in 1990.
	You were age 11?
	11, 1993, ran away from the rubble of the Soviet Union.
	Let's start there, I mean, we've done long interviews with you in the past, I think at least once or twice.
	You've co-hosted the show for me, but you are now known as, I hate the word political operative, let's just say strategic advisor, Trump 2020 campaign, you were my colleague in the White House in the Trump administration, you need to follow this guy at his website borisep.com, but let's recap, let's start with your family history.
	So you're a big American, you love this country, but your origins, tell us about where your family hails from.
	I was born in Moscow.
	My parents were born in Moscow.
	We came.
	No, not a spy.
	President Swalwell.
	OK?
	Or Jackie Spier.
	He's blocked me on Twitter.
	How is he allowed to do that?
	You know, Vindman's wife blocked me on Twitter.
	But she's not an elected official.
	I don't think he is either.
	I think he just plays one on TV.
	Oh, interesting, interesting.
	OK, fang fang.
	Wasn't that a court case?
	Yes, against the president.
	That you're not allowed to block if you're an elected official.
	You can't block fellow citizens.
	This is not legal advice.
	It's friend advice.
	You should sue him.
	Just for fun.
	I'll have a word with Cash Patel.
	Maybe that could be one of Cash's cases.
	That's a good idea.
	And it's perfect for Cash.
	So smart.
	So tough.
	So yeah, we came in 1993.
	We're Jewish refugees.
	We ran away from... The Soviet Union collapses in 91.
	So Unicops is on 91, we're there for two more years, but those two years were, I believe, the process to come over.
	I think it took either a year and a half or two years.
	So we tried, started the process to leave, I believe, in 91, maybe early 92, and finally were allowed, followed the legal process, followed... Oh, you mean you came here legally?
	Yes, so we did not cut the line.
	You didn't just swim across the border?
	No, I'm a great swimmer, of course.
	We did not swim across.
	We didn't sneak across.
	And I'm very proud of that.
	We followed the rules, followed the law.
	Do you feel like an idiot?
	Because I'm a legal immigrant.
	I paid money.
	I waited.
	I did my paperwork.
	I took a test.
	Funniest thing was 10 questions you have to answer to pass the immigration test.
	Third question she gave up after this was, tell me what happened, what event of significance happened on September 11, 2001?
	And I was already a lecturer of counter-terrorism for the Defense Department and I said, Madam, would you like the eight-hour lecture or the eight-day lecture?
	And she kind of went, OK, you're in, you're in.
	That's great.
	So are we idiots having done it legally?
	No.
	You know why?
	because we get to look at ourselves in the mirror, our families look at themselves in the mirror, and say, we are here legally.
	We follow the process.
	We follow the law.
	And I'm very proud of that.
	I'm very proud of my parents who picked up their whole family, their young little boy, but also their elderly parents, and said, we're coming over.
	And made a very difficult decision to leave a life, leave jobs, but to go and yearn for the opportunity and the promise of America.
	But that promise isn't given to you.
	You've got to work at it.
	You've got to struggle through it.
	And then at some point, yes, you can have achievements and you can be successful, but only, and that's what I love about America, only if you actually work for it, and that's what my family did.
	And I'm very proud of that, working not just...
	To come here and following all the rules, the laws, regulations.
	But once we got in, you know, there was five of us in a tiny apartment in Brooklyn that's, you know, maybe a couple of these rooms and that's it, right?
	You, your grandparents, your parents.
	Me, my dad, my mom and my dad's parents.
	My mom's mom lived, you know, a couple of blocks away.
	But you know what?
	I'll tell you this.
	My whole life and, you know, we've talked about this.
	I was very close to my grandparents.
	Yes, there were tough times and there was a lot of uncertainty.
	My father was looking for a job, my mom was figuring out her career and learning English at the same time.
	You know, those times spent with my grandparents together in one apartment, some of the laughter, some of the good moments, you know, it was our first time celebrating Rosh Hashanah, you know, because in the Soviet Union you couldn't do that.
	In Russia you didn't feel safe doing that.
	How do you even begin to build that new life?
	You were such a young kid.
	How much of a shock to the system do you think it was for your parents?
	It was wonderful and I'll tell you the story that's one of my really every fall when the Jewish high holidays come around I I think back to this um my grandfather was a was a really a wonderful man he was a World War II hero fought against the Nazis for four years you know a typical large Jewish you know professor very smart very funny Went through the war, didn't let it... Your granddad was a professor as well, not just your dad.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	My dad's in the science society, my grandfather was a historian.
	Oh, that explains it!
	The amateur historian is in his blood.
	And we spent a lot of time talking about history.
	My grandfather was born in 1915, actually remembered some of the traditions and experiences of being able to practice.
	Way back, before the revolution.
	Before the revolution, right?
	We get to America, and the high holidays were early that year, so we got here I think on September 9th, and about a week later he says, let's go to synagogue.
	And my grandfather took me for the first time in my life, took me to shul, took me to synagogue, He just chose the closest one?
	Or did he know?
	Did he have any connections?
	Russian emigres?
	Exactly.
	Russian emigrants, right?
	So you knew there was a close one that a lot of the Russian Jews went to where the Jewish center was a couple blocks away in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, New York.
	And it was just me and him.
	And we went and we listened to the cantor.
	What was that like for you as a kid?
	Was that a shock to the system, given that you couldn't do that freely in the Soviet Union?
	Was it very alien?
	I wouldn't you know what it was strangely no it was actually such a great question it was it was strangely familiar and very comfortable and you know you know I was very close to my grandma so everything we did together was comfortable but it was just it felt very special yeah very special to go and I remember that was two seconds ago we sat up on the you know in the balcony and and you know put on the taluses and we listened and it was it was freeing and exciting I'm loving you know boy I'm not gonna sit here and say well I was thinking about you know
	The deep theology of Deuteronomy.
	Right, the deep theology or the deep impact of what it means to believe in a higher being.
	But it felt very special, it felt very nice, and it felt familiar as well as participating in, you know, In community.
	Community.
	In community.
	Especially as somebody who left your country.
	Exactly.
	Of birth.
	Country of birth, and also in that country of birth, you know, my folks had to have talks with me about, hey, don't... Don't say this, don't say that.
	Don't tell people you're Jewish, you know.
	Don't, you know, be careful outside.
	It was, you know, those things, even as a 7, 8, 9, 10 year old boy, you realize that There's something different about you, right?
	And that's a tough thing to realize.
	So when you didn't have to worry about that anymore, it was very nice and very special.
	So being open to that, and again, that's all part of the promise of America, right?
	And why I believe strongly that the beauty of America is people should be allowed to practice whatever religion they want and practice whatever politics they want.
	You know, that's why this authoritarianism of the woke left is so deeply disgusting and unacceptable to me.
	You know, just as disgusting, by the way, as unacceptable as Nick Fuentes and the horrible anti-Semites who have leeched on and think that they're somehow part of it.
	Who pretend they're conservative.
	Exactly.
	I have to say, you know, my parents were refugees.
	I was born in the West, but I feel sorry for those who... So my father was an architect.
	My mother taught architecture.
	So I was raised in large part by my grandfather and my step-grandfather.
	And for those who don't have a close relationship to the next generation above the parents, you definitely miss something.
	I miss my grandparents immensely and they were a formative part of my life.
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	Boris, so you hail from Russia.
	You're a MAGA American now.
	No doubt.
	Absolutely.
	Your credentials regularly on Steve's War Room pandemic show.
	Like every week, right?
	Almost every day.
	We're on today at 5 o'clock.
	Give us your reaction to what you're witnessing, what we've seen for the last two and a half weeks in Europe.
	Horrible, Murray.
	It's absolutely horrible, unacceptable.
	It is a result of Biden's weakness and fecklessness.
	This is the second time in six months that Joe Biden's found himself to be hated by both sides of a major conflict.
	In Afghanistan, obviously hated by the Taliban, hated by the Afghanis to whom he turned over to the Taliban.
	And by the way, hated by Americans for those 13 brave Americans who were killed.
	So total debacle in Afghanistan, disaster, probably the worst national security disaster at least since the Bay of Pigs.
	And now in Russia, Ukraine, Biden is nowhere.
	The Ukrainians are absolutely despondent and disgusted with him, saying he hasn't done enough.
	And the Russians, obviously, are also disgusted and feel like they're being attacked economically, you know, with their central bank being taken down.
	But let me say this, and it's very important.
	And I said this maybe even a week ago already.
	I believe that this is a huge geopolitical mistake by Vladimir Putin.
	Yeah, you mentioned this in the green room.
	So I've just published that my latest analysis, I've spoken to the chief Sovietologist, criminologist of a certain Western nation, and then an individual here who actually is responsible for all the programs that train the US military on understanding their enemies.
	And my take is very simple.
	He's always wanted to do this.
	This is a guy who said the loss of the Soviet Union is the greatest geopolitical tragedy in the last century.
	He's spoken repeatedly about Ukraine not being a real country or an independent country.
	He's talked about the roving regiments of Nazis perpetrating genocide against the Russians in Ukraine.
	So why do you think this is a mistake on his behalf?
	I think it's a mistake because domestically since he came in in the late 90s, he came in in 1999.
	22 years ago.
	It's incredible.
	On New Year's Eve 1999 is when he became the acting president and became president.
	He has been, remember he came in after those terror attacks.
	Yeah, the so-called Chechen bombings in Moscow.
	You said it, I didn't.
	And then after Nord-Ost, the theater, and then Beslan, the attack on the school.
	And he has been seen as bringing stability to the Russian people after the 80s.
	Like a strongman.
	Which were horrible.
	And the 90s, which were even worse and completely disastrous with rampant crime and an economic downfall.
	And yes, he's undertaken these attacks on Georgia, and then he invaded Crimea.
	This is a full-on invasion to the West, which, by the way, historically Russia hasn't done in a long time, right?
	You had, like I said, Georgia, Crimea.
	Annexations, but not invasions.
	Right, there was Finland to the North in 1939, but if you think about what the last time that Russia... Well, the Baltic States, 1941.
	Also, I'd say to the North.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
	Full on, to the West.
	To the West.
	You know, it's been a long time.
	It is in particular in the character, right?
	Now, he's gonna say, well, this is just all part of the same country and all that.
	I think that he has had flagging support domestically recently.
	We've seen that in some of the Western numbers.
	And he believes that, yes, Biden is weak, that Biden's feckless, which he is.
	But I think Putin vastly underestimated the international response, underestimated how badly Biden needs a strongman because his strong support is at 19 and strong disapproval is at 49.
	And then domestically I think that this has a chance, a chance, not saying it will, but it has a chance to be a turning point from which he cannot come back.
	Because there's really a nascent opposition or somebody's gonna take him out?
	This take him out thing, by the way, Lindsey Graham and others.
	So stupid.
	So stupid.
	I mean, don't get me wrong, Putin's going to rot in hell, but to make that statement, I mean, what a chicken horse stupid statement.
	It's a dumb statement.
	It's a dangerous statement.
	And let's not forget, we're dealing with nuclear power here, right?
	So saying things like that, and also, it's just, you know, yes, we absolutely disagree with the war.
	Yes, he is a tyrant.
	Yes, he's making a mistake.
	But if we're going on national TV now as a senator and saying we want an assassination of a foreign leader, let's remember, we're all in this interwoven world now of international politics, right?
	And real politics would say that, hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
	Well, I mean, on that point alone, he's a murderer, he's a thug, he's the richest man in the world, but he stole it all.
	But not even Vladimir Putin says, you know, Lindsey Graham should be killed, or Biden should be killed.
	Not even he says that, because there are geopolitical ramifications to statements like that.
	And if you were to say that, then we would consider that a major provocation, right?
	Yeah, exactly!
	An act of war, verbally.
	Lindsey Graham really needs to check himself.
	The neocons, Liz Cheney's, really need to check themselves.
	Let's remember, Donald J. Trump came in and he put a stop to this warmongering, this orgy of war loving that's been going on by both Democrats and Republicans for way too long in this country.
	And now they're trying to get back to it, but it is unacceptable.
	We can't have it.
	So that's a full stop on the neocons.
	To your question in terms of Putin.
	It's not that, I don't think there's a nascent opposition politically, and I don't think someone's going to take him out or anything like that, you know, necessarily.
	But, if this Ukraine situation goes long... Meaning it's not resolved quickly in Russia's favor?
	In Russia's favor, or through some sort of ceasefire which he could spin to be in Russia's favor.
	Right, right, right.
	But if he gets bogged down there like the Russians got bogged down in Afghanistan in 79.
	Yes.
	For 10 years.
	For 10 years, and then brought about, in effect, the end of the Soviet Union.
	Correct.
	If this gets to be a situation where he's bogged down there, and there's a lot of civilian death, because here's what you have to remember, in some ways it's a civil war.
	Because, take me for example.
	My family, I'm born in Russia.
	My parents are born in Russia.
	One of my grandmothers was born in the Ukraine, right?
	As an ethnic Russian.
	She was Jewish.
	My grandma was Jewish, born an hour outside of Kiev.
	What does that make her, you know?
	Right.
	It's a question.
	It's a question, right?
	So in an area like that, You know, when you have people in Russia who have relatives in the Ukraine, there's not a lot of appetite for seeing little girls in hospitals, you know.
	Now, I think what the Ukrainians have hurt themselves is some of the disinformation.
	You know, I think that, you know, the Snake Island thing.
	The ghost.
	The ghost of Kiev, you know.
	So, but, on the flip side, Zelensky has, and you've got to call it, Zelensky's done a good job on the PR angle.
	Yeah, as one of the true, true experts I talked to said, he says, you know, what Ukraine needs right now is a showman and that's what he is.
	And it's, you know, this diminutive Jewish comedian really knows how to use social media.
	Let's talk, Boris, about the State of the Union and this strange, this almost perverse 180 by the Democrats that Now they want to reform the immigration system and fund the police and now they are pro-Ukrainian fight for freedom liberty lovers.
	They're MAGA now.
	Yeah, I mean, I was thinking, I had to ask somebody, am I dreaming during this State of the Union?
	I heard Democrat senators chant USA, USA.
	That's like MAGA rally stuff.
	I mean, is there no limit to their hypocrisy?
	None.
	Pathetic.
	Absolutely devoid of any reality, devoid of any honesty.
	Totally terrible.
	But the American people see through it.
	That's why the numbers for Biden are in the toilet.
	The numbers for Democrats in Congress are in the toilet.
	And the State of the Union isn't going to help him long term because he's, again, I use this term a lot.
	He's feckless.
	But this idea, they're trying to sell.
	This is not a joke.
	I think it was the New York Times.
	They had a story last week about how behind the scenes, Biden is the person who's bringing the Western alliance together.
	I mean, on Friday, he left the White House at two o'clock to go to Delaware.
	Again, second week in a That's how he brings the lines together.
	By going home for a nap.
	You've got to go to Delaware, you've got to take a long nap, okay?
	Then you've got to put on the Depends.
	Chocolate, chocolate chip.
	Have a little bit of a sweet tooth moment.
	Some peas and mashed potatoes.
	And then you've got to bring the lines together.
	Then announce that every night at 11.30 at night, Easter, you're talking to Zelensky.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, we believe you.
	The Democrats are despondent.
	The Democrats are lost.
	You see signs of that, really?
	Yeah, that's what this topsy-turvy is, right?
	That's what these knee-jerk reactions are, because they know that the American people have tuned them out, the American people distrust them, and the American people don't have any interest in their actual woke policies.
	So now, oh yeah, we're refunding the police!
	We never said defund, we meant refund!
	And then also the weird things, did you see the weird thing that Schumer did with his weird, like, clap?
	Standing up and down, up and down, and then the knuckles thingy?
	What was that?
	I have no idea.
	I mean, it was... She had to come up with something new for the seal clapping, remember?
	Under Trump.
	Trump's scotus.
	And now she's doing the knuckle rubbing.
	It's just weird.
	The whole thing.
	And then some of the speech are, the burn pits in Afghanistan that killed Bo Biden.
	Hang on, Bo Biden served in Iraq.
	I mean, do you really think we're that stupid?
	Or does he really not know where his son served?
	I don't think he knows that.
	I mean, he called the Ukrainians... Iranians.
	This is, you know, I've said this a lot, this really goes back to the early 80s in Russia, in the Soviet Union, with Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernenko.
	So we've got Nancy Pelosi and Biden and Schumer.
	We've got our octogenarians.
	And then our young person is Kamala Harris.
	We are going to continue every day.
	That's good.
	To do all day.
	Well, we do days in every day.
	It's a day.
	Daily.
	It's a day.
	Daily.
	Did you see the other one I played on the show?
	It's a little country.
	Ukraine is a country in Europe and Russia is next door and it's bigger and Russia invaded and that's wrong.
	Whoa!
	I didn't even mention this on my show.
	I had multiple libs, okay, trying to fact check me on Twitter saying, no, no, no, no, she was talking at a kindergarten.
	No, she was on a podcast for black Americans, which means you think black Americans are children.
	They actually tried to justify Boris by saying, she was at a kindergarten explaining it to four-year-olds.
	No, she just talks like a four-year-old.
	She just thinks you're a four-year-old.
	She just talks and acts and thinks like a four-year-old.
	Like a four-year-old.
	Here's an honest question.
	She went to college, right?
	You'd think that the chief prosecutor of California went to college.
	I guess that means she went to law school?
	What is happening?
	Wasn't your law school, I don't think.
	Well, look it up.
	I don't know.
	In all seriousness, this is so embarrassing to our country.
	We have this old man who doesn't know what day it is, who can't tell countries apart, and literally, let's be honest, can't even walk from the helicopter to the Oval on his own, and they have to show him, and he's kind of doddering along.
	And he's got a mask on.
	Nobody's close to him, and he's outside, and he's got a mask on.
	But after the State of the Union, it's hugs and kisses and hair sniffing for everybody.
	It all makes sense, Sebastian, because signs.
	Because Fauci said so.
	No, because Fauci is signs.
	Fauci is God.
	Is the God of signs.
	The God of signs.
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	Boris, last week Lee Smith gave an interview, the great Lee Smith, the author of The Plot Against the President and Permanent Coup, that, you know, with regards to what we've been talking, the State of the Union, the 180 flip of the Democrats, yes, it's Ukraine, and damn Putin after they used Russian smear material to attack President Trump.
	He said, the Democrats don't have international enemies or friends.
	It's completely a function of who they want to attack domestically.
	Isn't that great?
	Yes.
	I mean, philosophically, that gives you clarity.
	They will swing whichever way it is of utility for them to attack us at home.
	A thousand percent.
	All they care about is winning today's Twitter war.
	They don't care about what's best for America.
	They don't care about what's best for Americans.
	They just want to get a headline and they want to get ahead.
	And the mainstream media, 99% of it, plays into that.
	They play into that.
	Are you seeing any signs of the end of the honeymoon for Biden?
	That hot mic moment with a couple of reporters on Thursday where they said, yeah, well, he didn't answer anything really.
	I mean, is he losing the blush off the rose, the bloom?
	A bit.
	A little bit.
	Most of the editors are still liberals, right?
	So they're loathe to attack him, they're loathe to praise anything Republican.
	But I will tell you that after the huge wins last week in Texas, President Trump going 33-0, you had even Politico.
	Explain that, what happened in Texas.
	In the Texas primaries, candidates supported and endorsed by President Trump were either one or are leading going into a runoff, literally at 100% rate.
	Yeah, over more than 30 of them.
	There are 33 of them.
	He's 33 and zero in the primaries.
	That's crazy.
	And that includes the governor, Abbott, who won.
	Includes the lieutenant governor, Dan Patrick, who won.
	Includes Ken Paxton, the AG, who's going off into a runoff, but winning by a lot, leading by a lot.
	And with all that, Politico put out a story.
	It's a big night for MAGA because there's just no way.
	That must have been hard for them to swallow when they filed that story.
	Very hard, very hard.
	They probably tried to hide it some way, maybe put it on the 10th page from the top, but again, it's just the reality.
	And with Biden, His refusal to answer questions, his refusal to engage, the lack of any real press conferences, the fact that even when foreign leaders come, the bilateral press conferences become rare.
	He's absolutely turning off the media and the press corps.
	But again, that's maybe personal.
	That doesn't make him be fair to conservatives.
	So Jeff sent me this story on Friday that with the comment, looks like she's running.
	Bill Clinton is going to host the leadership summit for the first time since 2016.
	I gotta ask because you got a canny, canny political nose and you know you put it into historic context.
	Could we be so lucky that Hillary's running, Boris?
	She's definitely looking to be back on the scene.
	And the DNC won't stop her?
	Well, it's all a question of who gets to actually be on the ballot, and what they do about Joe Biden.
	Biden, I'm hearing this even from mainstream reporters, he seems bad, right?
	You look bad at the State of the Union, he seems to be having a real problem.
	So, if they are going to come to him and say, hey, this isn't working anymore, you've got to make a decision, well then, you know, if he says, I'm going to be a one-term president, then they're going to have a primary.
	And they're not going to say that, well, it's Kamala's?
	No.
	She's the most unpopular vice president probably in American history since Spiro Agnew.
	But Hillary lost and the president's running, so the idea that they'd run the woman who lost to President Trump again, could the DNC be that dumb?
	I mean, God bless them if they are!
	The DNC actually is not that good of an operation.
	Okay, unpack that.
	Harrison is running and is already thinking of quitting.
	They don't have a functioning central beating heart.
	The DNC is sort of an amalgamation of these different entities.
	So different camps.
	Yeah.
	And can they stop somebody?
	If there's an open primary.
	And if she's got money.
	And she'll have money.
	If there's an open primary, the Democrats are likely to go back to what they know.
	But they know that she's going to lose.
	Or are they delusional?
	I mean, I'm trying to red team the Democrats.
	You know them better.
	They will believe that President Trump coming back may somehow not be as strong, which they're wrong, and that she and her comeback energy would be stronger, which again, they're wrong.
	But here's the problem.
	They have no bench.
	Well, they've got a lot of... I mean, I'd love it if they ran Pete Buttigieg.
	I mean, that would be superb.
	Right.
	Isn't he still on paternity leave?
	Probably.
	I think he's still figuring out the breastfeeding thing first.
	Because he fixed the supply chain.
	Oh, totally.
	You know, the 7% gas in California is just doozy.
	The country's in great shape.
	Yeah, the roads are great.
	Right.
	No, the supermarkets are not absolutely empty.
	Uh, Buttigieg would be a disaster even if they know that.
	You can't run Elizabeth Warren.
	What are you going to run?
	Bill de Blasio or some idiot like that?
	Isn't it weird?
	320 million people?
	And there's no bench?
	Because people don't want to be... I mean, how many candidates did we have?
	We had, what, 17?
	In 15?
	We had about 17, and there were serious people there.
	Right.
	And look at the people who are, you know, the next generation.
	I fully believe and, you know, I'm all on board, obviously, a thousand percent for President Trump to run in 24, be our nominee, walk back into the White House in 25.
	Full stop.
	But we have a whole generation.
	For 28 and 32 we've got a whole generation of fighters.
	It's incredible and we need more of them guys.
	Yes we do.
	You need to run and you need to support those that are running.
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	You're doing sterling work with my old boss, Steve Bannon, on The War Room almost every single day.
	Give us the latest.
	Raffensperger said he's going to do some investigation.
	What do our listeners across the nation need to know?
	The most important thing that happened last week was the nuclear earthquake that happened in Wisconsin with Judge Gabelman.
	Right.
	Where he laid out not just the overwhelming fraud done by Zuckerberg, by Democrats, by mistreating nursing home patients, by misusing ballot drop boxes and stealing the election of Wisconsin in 2020.
	But he also laid out what could be done about it, which in Appendix 2, he goes chapter and verse on decertification, which we've talked about.
	And Judge Gabelman, who's a former Wisconsin state Supreme Court justice, laid out the constitutional common law and electoral law underpinning saying in his belief in his estimation, if you have proof on its face of fraud in an election, there's absolutely if you have proof on its face of fraud in an election, there's absolutely a And under Article 2 of the Constitution, that would be the state legislatures decertifying elections.
	So the state decides in the legislature to decertify their state's election results.
	Correct.
	And then what?
	And then that's an open question, because that's never happened before.
	So the question is, then what?
	And he said that if it's just Wisconsin with 10 electoral votes, nothing happens.
	But if it's Wisconsin, Arizona, and say Georgia, and then those are decertified and taken away from the president.
	Then the numbers change completely.
	Now, he points to other elections.
	Marks v. Stinson, which was an election in Pennsylvania, elections in North Carolina, where you had a candidate sitting who had won through fraud, and the election was overturned, and the other candidate took the seat.
	Okay, those are not presidential elections.
	But it has absolutely- When's the last time that happened at a non-presidential level?
	It's definitely happened in the last 25 years.
	Okay.
	So it's not- This is in the 1800s.
	What is your gut telling you in terms of getting the requisite number of decertifications?
	Is this less than a 10% chance?
	More than a 20% chance?
	Because you've been fighting, you've been traveling, you've seen the data.
	What is Boris's take right now?
	We have a real shot at decertification of a requisite amount of states.
	A real shot because here's why.
	In Wisconsin, the proof is already on the table.
	It's there.
	So now it's just the Wisconsin legislators having the courage to do the right thing.
	In Georgia, there's an ongoing lawsuit to uncover 148,000 mail-in ballots in Fulton County, where Atlanta is.
	From what I'm hearing, there's going to be absolutely irrefutable proof there.
	And then in Arizona, we have it.
	The question is what happens next.
	I think that'll end up in the Supreme Court.
	And as we've discussed on your show, it's impossible to really tell.
	Right, because there's no precedent.
	And in April, the massive bombshell, my colleague Dinesh D'Souza's movie, 2000 Mules, where he has the video data, the geospatial data of all the illegal ballot harvesting mules in key battleground states.
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