Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Justin Trudeau goes full fascist in Canada.
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Well, you did it, guys.
After I discussed it yesterday on the show multiple times and today on Steve Bannon's War Room, National Defence University is not picking up their phone.
You've been calling them so frequently to complain, to say that not on your taxpayer dime will they have Thomas Piketty, the man who is former Socialist Party of France, the man who wrote Capital in the 21st century.
An avowed communist will not be speaking on your dime at the oldest military base in the United States tomorrow.
Hopefully that event will be cancelled because you have put pressure on to make sure it doesn't.
I'll give out the phone number again just so you can keep, keep making those calls.
But Let's talk about the background to all of this.
How did we get here that an avowed Marxist is giving lectures on Fort McNair at National Defence University?
A superb target of opportunity has wandered into the swamp and we have netted him.
He is the author of Cynical Theories, as far as I'm concerned, the most significant academic work on how we got to bigotry like critical race theory being taught in our schools.
He has a brand new book just published.
I love his byline on Twitter, not a New York Times bestselling author.
He goes by Conceptual James, James, Professor James Lindsay.
Welcome back to America First.
Hey Seb, great to be here.
So what brings you to the swamp?
Well, I'm doing an event at the Heritage Foundation tonight.
I'm speaking with Mike Gonzalez about his book about BLM.
I've got my book, Race Marxism.
We're going to hit it out of the park tonight.
All right, Race Marxism.
He just literally, as I sat down in his chair, James said, I've got a brand new book out, just published, Race Marxism.
Where can they find it, James?
Not the Amazon.com?
Oh no, Randy, Amazon.com.
I know, I know.
All right, check out his website as well.
It's called NewDiscourses.com.
Support him.
I've just retweeted his tweet about how you can support this amazing website, New Discourses.
Okay, can I just dive straight in with something that's been bothering me?
Mike's a good friend.
He's been on the show regularly.
My wife works with Mike at the Heritage Foundation.
You know me.
My background is national security.
To defeat an enemy, You've got to understand them and you've got to have an accurate taxonomy.
You've got to be able to label the thing.
Whether you're a doctor, whether you're a strategist, you've got to have the right labels.
What is it?
that we are dealing with.
Some say it's cultural Marxism.
Some say it's the new left.
What have you found is the best label for the ideological amoeba that we are facing?
You know, I've concluded that the best label is woke Marxism.
Okay.
Because people resonate.
They know that woke is something.
They know that woke is something to do with race and sex and gender and all of these identity factors.
But they also know that there's something distinctly socialist, distinctly Marxist, this idea of equity being very obviously socialist.
There's something to it that's very Marxist.
And in fact, this new book, Race Marxism, details how critical race theory is the racial component of woke Marxism.
If you want to call it identity Marxism, I consider that to be a path along the way.
I can tell you how we got here if you want.
It shifted.
Marxism shifted in the 60s.
Yeah.
For me, and this is a free discussion, for me, the issue I had with Woke is it's kind of light-hearted.
It has a kind of, hey, this is fun, or it's less than serious, or it's a bit facetious.
And for me, something that is truly rotting our civilization, I don't want to have a fun label.
Is that unfair?
No, that's totally fair.
And identity Marxism works for that.
Identity Marxism is the brainchild of the most prominent Marxist of the 1960s, Herbert Marcuse.
And Herbert Marcuse had this idea.
He said, the working class stabilized itself, or got stabilized one way or another, and it betrayed its revolutionary spirit.
So what are we going to do?
He says, well, let's look to the ghetto population.
That's his work.
Right, so you've got to go for the race, you've got to go for the disenfranchised of the ghettos, which is, and I want to talk about this later, just the delicious irony that we have Trudeau declaring emergency fascistic, you know, martial law in Canada against who, James?
It's not against working class, you know, middle class bourgeoisie, it's against truck drivers!
The left!
It's saying the working class is now the enemy because I guess they're not socially aware enough?
That's what it is.
This is what I'm telling you.
There was an off-ramp in Marxist theory at the end of the 1960s and all of our intellectuals missed it.
And what it did was it didn't just even abandon it, it turned on the working class.
It saw the working class, in Marcuse's words, it said that they stabilized, that they became A counter-revolutionary and conservative force.
So being Marxist, being petulant, being vengeful, they became angry at the working class and they shifted gears into these identity politics.
Whether it's race in the ghetto population, the sexual minorities, the feminists, these are the things that Marcuse called to.
And you ended up taking an off-ramp for Marxism into identity politics and into, in fact, corporatism and every other thing.
It no longer has any feel to the working class.
It hates the working class.
And you see that with the truckers.
You have the actual, well you saw it with MAGA too.
MAGA was class consciousness.
MAGA was the working class awakening to the fact that the elites are screwing them.
And to use their terminology, the false consciousness of the working class became carved in stone.
They couldn't do anything about it, right?
So that's why they had to find a different population.
We're talking to James Lindsay, Conceptual James on Twitter, the author of Cynical Theories and Incredible.
I mean, this is the analytic Bible for those who want to understand how Glenn Youngkin, a milquetoast candidate, won in Virginia against one of the most powerful Democrats when he saw what parents were doing to keep their children free of bigotry.
The new book is Race, Marxism.
Race, Marxism.
Just published.
Race, Marxism.
One of the most fascinating things of your book, and let's try and tease this out for a couple of minutes.
Is queer theory.
Yeah.
How there's this incredibly radical, aggressive, tiny little pocket of academe that attacks traditional concepts of truth through gender.
And for me, you can talk about what queer theory is to explain to our millions of listeners.
For me, at the end of this exercise was simply one objective.
The negation of objective truth.
Am I reading too much into it?
No, you've pretty much got it.
There's one other objective, though.
There are two objectives.
So queer theory, put simply, the word queer means that which is against the normal, that which is outside of and against, positioned against the normal.
So it's a war on the normal.
That's what queer theory is.
This is an old idea.
And so you are correct.
It is a war against what, obviously, objective reality is normal.
So it's a war on objective reality.
But the second thing that it is, is it's a tool that they can use to separate one generation from the previous.
And this is what Marxists always want to do.
This goes back to the first cultural Marxist by the name of George Lukács, who ran the Hungarian Revolution.
That's right.
And what did he do?
He became the deputy commissar for education.
And what did he implement?
Comprehensive sex education.
Exactly the stuff we see with the gender theory, the queer theory, these very perverted pornographic books in the school libraries and in school curriculum teaching Children, to become sexually active and sexually aware.
Why?
Because what are they going to do?
They're going to become, frankly, little perverts, and they're going to go home, and their parents are going to say no, and they're going to use that rebelliousness of the teenage years, of the youth, and say, you don't understand me.
And the parents will say, look at the Bible, and they'll say, the Bible doesn't understand me.
And they'll say, well, but our culture.
And you say, our culture doesn't understand me.
And you can separate a new generation away from its parents, away from its family, away from its religion, and away from its previous culture.
And it's not just normalizing perversion, normalizing the abnormal.
Reading your book, I found one of the objectives was just to generate constant confusion in the next generation.
Yeah, that's right.
There's no polar star.
That's right.
The goal is, in fact, there's a woman named Hannah Dyer.
I think she's a woman.
You never know with queer theory.
So Hannah Dyer is the name.
Award-winning scholar in queer theory.
Wrote a paper about queer theory in early childhood education and early childhood development recently, in 2019 or so.
And she, in that paper, says the point of queer theory is to prevent a stable LGBTQ identity.
It is to prevent stable identity.
Guys!
What did Marcuse?
Same thing in the 60s.
The working class stabilized.
Anything that stabilizes is the enemy, so they have to destabilize the children.
At the end of the day, if I have to summarize it, there's one word for all of this.
Critical race theory, queer theory, the new left, the race Marxism.
It's just bloody diabolical.
We're talking to James Lindsay, professor of mathematics, author of Cynical Theories, now Race Marxism.
He's staying in studio.
We're not letting him go anywhere.
This is America First.
Stay on this channel.
Emergency laws.
Let me look real fast.
All right.
Can you find any one of those insane TikTok videos to come to use in the next segment?
Sure.
Eric?
Oh, me?
Yeah, the ones we've used in the last few days.
Let me see.
Uh, what time's your event?
Uh, I've got an interview at four.
But no, no, no, you're with Mike.
Oh, seven, I think.
Okay, good.
All right, because I'm going to be there at six for an event, and maybe I'll try and catch the tail end of yours.
Yeah, I'd like to see you.
It's always good to run into you.
Congrats on the new book.
Yeah, I'm excited.
It's literally today.
That's fabulous.
That's fabulous.
Okay, so give me the, um, so it's, let's make it quick.
Organogram.
Gramsci, Lukács, right?
And then we've got to have Marcuse, Adorno... Horkheimer.
Horkheimer, yes.
Horkheimer, Marcuse, Adorno.
My wife was telling me how Ed Murrow was crucial to getting these guys into Columbia.
That's probably true.
He held the purse strings for these fellowships and has funded these people, the Frankfurt guys, to come over here.
Who am I missing?
Gramsci, Lukács, Horkheimer, Marcuse, Adorno.
Who else is essential?
Paulo Freire, the educator.
And then who wrote Repressive Tolerance?
That was Marcuse.
Any luck, Eric?
Uh, there's something loading now.
It's taking a moment to load.
Okay, great.
It is... 28 seconds long.
Which one is it?
It says, uh... Oh, you want me to just play it real quick?
Yeah, just let me see it.
Yeah, let me name it.
I'm gonna call it Cut 11.
Moment.
That's not it.
Hang on.
Alright, prepare yourself.
The phrase biological woman is completely meaningless.
Oh, hang on.
Hang on.
So, that's not one of mine, is it?
I think it was one we had up there.
I just pulled the last one.
Good.
26 seconds.
Alright, I'll tee it up after Israel.
Okay.
Alright, good.
Alright, so who can we get on Canada?
Besides black, of course.
Oh, Mike Graham's in New York.
He is?
Yeah.
Let me text him.
Who else is Canadian?
That's a good question.
That would be... What would that be?
4 o'clock, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
70 seconds.
Yeah, that would be fun.
He can talk about anything.
Good.
By the way, I love on Twitter, Professor Lindsey, but James Lindsey honks for freedom.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
I did that at a talk the other day in New Hampshire at Dartmouth.
The train went by and it was blowing its horn and I'd honk and everybody cheered.
It was great.
So good.
They had me at Dartmouth, though.
How?
How on earth?
College Republicans.
And what was the left turnout like?
We did it off-campus.
They couldn't find us.
They said that they don't have cars, so they wouldn't be able to bother us.
I did an event once, and they were really worried.
There'd be lots of protestors.
It was on Facebook.
Antifa went nuts.
And they hosted it on a casino on tribal land, and had about 12 cops there.
And I said, where are the protestors?
You can't protest here unless you have the tribe's permission.
And I thought, that's an interesting thing to know for the future.
All right.
10 seconds.
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He's in DC.
We snagged him!
He is the author of a seminal work called Critical Theories, but published today is his brand new book.
It is Race.
Marxism.
You can get it at Amazon.
You've got to check out this guy.
His website is NewDiscourses.com.
He is ConceptualJames on Twitter.
Professor Lindsey, you've been on the show before, but people who maybe haven't heard that interview, Why are you doing this?
I mean, you're a math geek.
You're a professor of mathematics.
Why are you mapping this insidious, evil, 90-year plot to destroy Western civilization?
What, quote-unquote, triggered you, James?
What triggered me?
So, there was a paper that I saw that came out in 2016 about studying glaciers from a feminist perspective, and it said the entire science of glaciology is sexist unless they take up feminist and indigenous glaciology.
This wasn't a parody thing?
This was real.
No, it was on $800,000 of National Science Foundation money at the University of Oregon.
And so this is real.
And so that triggered me, if you will.
Sciences are close to my heart.
And so, you know, next thing you know, I figure it's time to hoax.
My colleagues and I decided it's time to hoax these journals.
We wrote some fake academic papers.
So there's like three or four of you who took some passages of Hitler, changed the nouns and got it published in peer-reviewed journals, right?
Yeah.
Feminist social work, as a matter of fact.
So we got a bunch of papers accepted by peer-reviewed journals.
Who were your colleagues?
Let's give them some glory now.
Sure, Peter Boghossian is the primary colleague, Helen Pluckrose who wrote Cynical Theories with me, and then we have a filmmaker who helped as well named Mike Naina who's following us around.
So they were our colleagues, or my colleagues, and we perpetrated this on academia, but in the process, this is what really triggered me, I saw with one of the papers, it was about education, and we said that we should abuse these students to overcome their privilege.
So in your hoax article, that's what you said.
Yeah, that's what we argued.
And we thought, well, we better say that we'll do it compassionately, which sounded funny.
Abuse compassionately.
Yeah, of course.
And they wrote back, the peer reviewers wrote back and said, we love this idea, but don't be compassionate.
That re-centers the needs of the privileged.
That was their exact words.
Re-centers the needs of the privileged?
Yeah, and then they said that we should use what's called the pedagogy of discomfort to make people uncomfortable, which is what AOC said, by the way, when cities were burning in 2020, that protest is supposed to be uncomfortable, change is supposed to be uncomfortable.
So this reminds me of a good friend whose daughter had just started college here, I think it was at JMU, and the first day of indoctrination in the, you know, the mandatory lectures, they made everybody stand up and then sit down if you're, you know, white, And the last question was, if you're a virgin, just to shame 18 year old students.
I mean, it's malice, James.
It is malice.
This is exactly malice.
And anyway, when I saw that, I went to my wife and I said, can I quit my job and expose this full time?
It's the unraveling of Western civilization.
And she said, can you make money?
And I said, I don't know.
And she said, you got 18 months.
Let's see what you can do.
And we took off.
The plane took off.
We're doing it.
Well, you're a courageous man.
Your wife must be an amazing woman.
Let's go to the Genesis.
How did we let this happen?
And I don't mean conservatives, because you don't have to be a conservative to have issues with virgins being shamed at the age of 18 in front of their fellow students.
It's just Wrong.
There's this phrase from a book, you know, the lurch for the snooze button.
The left took this new tack, as you said, in the 60s.
Class isn't going to cut it.
We've got to go with race, with gender, with sex.
Why did sane people just kind of Not see it.
How did we miss this, James?
In the wake of the civil rights movements and liberal second wave feminism, which is not the same as Marxist second wave feminism, there was a lot of guilt, I think.
If you read Shelby Steele's book, White Guilt, he says, in the wake of the civil rights movement, what we have is we have a bunch of people facing up to the fact of a long national sin.
All this segregation, all the slavery before that.
And in that vacuum of moral authority, as he phrases it, we allowed this stuff to creep in.
And in particular, we allowed it to take over in the universities.
The place it first took over and took over most significantly, because the Marxists know their business, was the colleges of education.
And here we can lay some blame on the conservatives, because they kind of just ceded education to the left 50 years ago.
Yeah, well, we'll let the reformers take it over.
We'll let the John Dewey people take it over.
Did we know, did people back then, because I truly concur that, to use a military term, the center of gravity of this diabolical movement is the teacher training colleges.
That's where this stuff is regurgitated, spewed out to force multipliers that go into the high schools, go into the colleges and indoctrinate our children.
Do you know, are we aware that back then did conservatives or did rational academics say, Yeah, I'm guilty.
I'm just gonna let them do it.
Or did we just not even see it?
You know, there's this really iconic scene if you've read Shelby Steele's White Guilt near the beginning.
He was a black radical in the 60s and he talks about how he marches into the college president's office and he's got a burning cigarette and he lets the ashes just fall.
He didn't mean to.
He let the ashes just fall into the carpet and you could see that the president's about to stand up and say something and then he just caves.
And that was the moment for Shelby Steele where he realized this huge power that he had.
The power.
And so the universities lurched left very hard in the 60s and 70s trying to make up for this, trying to be the vanguard of identity politics.
Out of guilt.
Out of guilt.
So, you're going to speak tonight with our good buddy Mike Gonzalez at Heritage.
I had the brand new president, Dr. Roberts, on the show a week into his tenure, and he's a president of a former college.
He's a, what did he say, sixth generation educator, PhD in history.
And I asked him, on record live, I kind of ambushed him a bit, and I said, Okay, it's exciting what's happening at the school boards across America and the high schools, but what about higher education?
Can we save the colleges?
And without hesitation, James, you said, no, it's got to be burnt to the ground.
You know, we cannot save them.
They are just completely gone.
What do you think?
Can we save them?
No, no.
They will come along crawling, because they have huge endowments, they won't exactly be burned to the ground.
They will come along crawling behind as the world moves forward, hoping that they can regain some of their imprimatur on the back end.
They are absolutely corrupt at this point.
Just totally corrupt.
Yeah, so guys, if you're listening, if you went to a good school, anywhere you went, if they are teaching this garbage now, like critical race theory, like gender studies, just don't fund it.
One of the first things, I mean, if Donald Trump comes back, God willing, we have to turn these entities into for-profit corporations that pay taxes.
The idea that they, you know, Stanford and Harvard stood on $40 billion worth of endowment and they don't pay taxes is why they get away with this stuff.
We have to change their classification.
But in the meantime, don't give them any money.
Give Hillsdale, give Grove City, support those places that believe that Western civilization is good, is the greatest civilization the world has ever seen.
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Mama bears.
Mike's back on?
Mama Bears are gonna do it.
Yeah.
Let's talk about that next.
Let's talk about that.
Okay.
I think, I think, I think higher education is just done.
It's toast.
It's in bad shape.
I was talking, like, my son goes to Stanford and he has a buddy of his who's an ethnic minority, I won't say what, real conservative, and he's in a class where the students are being encouraged by the professor to use phrases such as bad think, that that's bad think.
Holy cow.
Yeah.
I mean, as if he's in Beijing.
But that one took me aback.
Most things don't anymore.
Most of this stuff doesn't surprise me.
I'm sure.
Bad think does.
Bad think does.
Three minutes.
All right, I'm going to order your book right now.
These Marxists knew their job.
They took over the Congress.
Well, they're just persistent.
They have a plan.
If you have a plan and you're persistent, most people don't pay attention.
The thing about conservatives is that we want to pay the car payment at the end of the month, and we don't have this obsession With an ideology.
With changing society from the foundation.
Right.
Yeah.
And we don't hate ourselves.
I think Freud was, you know, diabolical as well.
But I think a lot of this stems from self-hatred.
It does.
I mean, they detest themselves.
Yeah.
And so this is how they compensate.
Yeah, exactly.
They project, oh, you're the bad person.
Yeah, exactly.
Right?
Exactly.
All right.
Race Marxism.
Yeah, they figured out how to implement Gramsci.
Yeah.
The education was the key to the other pillars.
It really does start with him, doesn't it?
Yeah, he's really- The idea that- He's the big one.
That, you know, the bourgeoisie is not gonna help us.
Yeah.
You gotta take over the institutions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's really him.
That's him.
That's him.
Okay, got it.
All right.
And then they lost faith, and then the educator, Frary, brought the faith back.
All right, I'm gonna get a couple of copies.
Let's do this.
Is yours?
I presume your event's going to be streamed, right?
I think so, yeah.
They've shared a link three or four times, so.
Oh, good, good, good, good, good.
Okay, we've got MyPillow and Relief here.
if you already want to come in with anything.
I'll just use the image of the MyPillow truck.
Okay.
And then I'm going to tee up the TikTok.
All right, 70 seconds.
All right, standing by.
Thanks for being so flexible today.
No, having a great day.
One minute.
Can you kill the mics?
Mic's back on.
45 seconds.
It's the MyPillow image.
Yeah, I'll tee that up and then the TikTok cut.
Yep.
Oh, yes.
Excellent!
Mike Graham.
Oh, good.
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And now, I apologize in advance.
I want James to react to this TikTok video, which is not an unusual one.
The phrase biological woman is completely meaningless, because being a woman is a social state, not a biological one.
Womanhood is socially constructed, and as such, it's not based on biology, it's based on societal recognition.
It would be like saying I'm biologically an American citizen.
It doesn't make any sense, because American citizenship isn't based on biology, it's based on societal recognition.
If the original comments are meant to say trans women aren't cis women, then yes, I agree.
But the problem is, I don't know anyone who disagrees with that.
So on my feed every day, I get videos like this of kids on TikTok, the Chinese social media app, saying that, no, chromosomes don't exist.
Do you think this is going to be our saving grace?
I tend to believe that this is why the mama bears are standing up at the school board meetings.
The pornographic pedophilic books, the racism of critical race theory, and then this sheer insanity of the radical transgender agenda.
Do you think, James, as an academic, as a person who's written the key works, we could be saved?
Civilization could be saved by truckers and mama bears?
That's exactly who's gonna save us.
100%.
God bless the working class.
That's right.
And the moms.
And the moms.
We love our moms.
If you get the moms, you get the dads.
How excited are you right now about what we've witnessed in just the last six months?
I'm very excited.
You know, for me, I've been screaming about this for years, right?
It's like screaming into a hurricane.
I feel like that guy on those videos, another video with it, he's got the American flag standing in the street challenging the hurricane.
I feel like that guy Screaming into this storm and now all of a sudden the wind has changed.
The wind's at my back now and people are awake and in particular parents are awake and the working class is awake.
The people who make society work, that's the working class.
People who get things done.
This stuff's all nonsense and they know it and they're not going to participate any longer.
And then the moms, you'll die for your kids.
Yeah.
And when you realize this radical agenda, especially with the sex, gender, sexuality stuff, and the pedophilia, when you realize that your children are genuinely in danger of groomers that the Marxists have brought in... It's grooming!
And when parents realize that their children are at risk, it turns out... I talked to a political scientist at one point about a year and a half ago, and he told me there are just a handful of ways cultural revolutions get stopped.
One is that you have a character like Putin come in and start killing journalists and take authoritarian power and stamp it out.
The other is that the parents wake up.
Yeah.
All right, so we've got a minute left.
We're with the author of the brand new published today, Race Marxism.
He's running from here in three minutes to the Heritage Foundation.
He's speaking there tonight.
He's the author of Critical Theories, Cynical Theories, a seminal work on why we are where we are today.
Last 60 seconds with James Lindsay.
Follow him right now on Twitter.
It is ConceptualJames and NewDiscourses.com is the website.
Everybody has a role to play, don't they, James?
Everyone.
You don't have to be a PhD or a mathematician or a radio host.
Everyone who loves our civilization has a role to play, do they not?
I 100% agree.
Most moving thing I ran into was in Wisconsin this past year.
I was talking at an event, and I spoke with one of these guys that's in the organization, and he stopped me.
He said, I don't know what you're talking about, Prof. Doc, I have no idea what you're saying.
This stuff's all over my head.
I was like, oh, I thought you, sorry, I thought you were with it.
And he said, no, I run errands.
These guys are bringing in speakers, they're putting on events.
They need somebody to take people back and forth to the airport.
They need somebody to show up and get the food and bring it to the event.
Everybody has a role to play.
A support role, a friend role, whatever it happens to be.
To be that ear for somebody to listen.
Everybody has a role to play and you don't have to go study all of this, but if you can, you should.
To quote my Salem colleague, there are three types of people.
Well, four if we include the evil.
There are the evil, The enemy, the diabolical.
There are those who do nothing.
There are those who fight, like James.
And there's a fourth category.
Those who help those who fight.
You don't have to be on the top of the barricades.
You don't have to be writing the books.
But simply supporting that mother at that school board meeting.
Standing with her shoulder to shoulder is how we win.
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Can you believe it?
They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
How do you say that?
Magnificent.
How dare they?
Not on this show, because this is America First.
No monologue today.
Is that a bad thing?
Can you tell Jeff I enjoyed myself having James in studio?
No, today worked.
Good.
I really had a lot of fun.
That happened just as a target of opportunity.
We had to jump and we are going to do that whenever it serves the purpose of telling you the truth.
He's off to the Heritage Foundation.
The book is Race Marxism.
Check it out.
I've already ordered my two copies.
We're going to go to your cause momentarily, but be that person that he talked about, that Catalytic individual.
It could just be a t-shirt.
It could just be a flag, for example.
And it's fun!
The Let's Go Brandon flag!
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Thanks to Randy.
You say you want stuff, he makes it happen.
It's all made in America.
Go to sebgorkastore.com.
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Let's go brand in gear.
It's also everything to do with America first.
I'm a MAGA man mug.
I'm a MAGA gal mug.
And also most recently, the great flag that was prompted by Phil from Philly.
We will not forget the Americans abandoned in Afghanistan.
Whatever it is, be that person.
Fly that flag, wear that t-shirt.
Okay, let's go to your calls!
Ray Livermore, line two.
Speaking of let's go, Brandon, thank you for the hat, Dr. G, you sent out to me, and the America First hoodie.
It gets either smiley faces or really crumpled up angry faces.
Nothing in between.
Alright, this is not rehearsed.
Not rehearsed.
I didn't know that the hoodie had arrived.
Right now, to our three million listeners, tell the world, Ray, just how luxurious that hoodie is.
It's very luxurious, complete with the stars in the hood, only missing stripes in the arms.
But that's OK.
But it's a high quality material.
It's a good thick material.
Today, when you buy clothes, a lot of it is just very thin, light material.
And this is not the case.
This is a high quality product.
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You deserve it.
OK.
What made you call in today, Ray?
I hadn't my whole life.
I hadn't always been a conservative.
But what attracted me to conservatism is that it operates on facts, on truth, on evidence.
And the left, your guest, kind of triggered something in me.
They operate in theory, doctor.
They operate in gender theory, trans theory, critical race theory.
These are all, this is a pretend world, global warming theory, the theory of evolution.
And most recently in the news headlines today, the theory of Trump-Russia collusion.
Yes.
Yes.
The left should be theoretically discarded for their theories, OK?
If this isn't enough to wake people up, I don't know what will, Dr. G.
Yeah, they don't live in the real world, David.
They've never had to sign the front of a check, only the back of a check.
But you're right, the discrepancy between us and them is we live in the real world, and they deny the existence of the real world.
Thank you, Ray.
Go off, enjoy the hoodie, wear the hat with pride, because I know you are one of those catalytic individuals.
Jim, Wyoming, welcome to America First.
Dr. G, Megha, Megha, thank you for having me on.
Sure.
Driving home from lunch, I heard your excellent discussion with Dr. Lindsay about the feminist glaciology.
Right.
The feminism of glaciers, right?
Yes, yes.
Fascinating, isn't it?
Eight years ago, I went to a state school board meeting and learned from the climate parents What a wonderful new set of science standards we're going to be taught in K-12, called the Next Generation Science Standards.
Now, there's a companion piece to Common Core, and I think we all know how well that went.
Right.
Well, I took it upon myself to go around the state and to work with people in the Rocky Mountain region to try to raise the alarm about the Next Generation Science Standards.
And one of the discussion topics Because I did this really up until 2017, when I had a great run-in with Liz Cheney's folks, but I'll tell you a bit on that later.
No, no, no.
We need to get to the point.
We've got a full call board.
So, Jim, what's the main point?
The next generation science standards are teaching junk science.
Previous caller talked about the climate change garbage.
One of the things Yeah, tell that to the residents, the now deceased residents of Krakatoa.
Jim, stay on the line, let's give Jim and America First hat.
It's not junk science, it is anti-science.
Let's go to our good buddy in Silver Spring, Victor, who recently sent me a book.
Thank you, Victor, for my new reading matter.
Uh, did I recommend a book?
I can't remember.
You did!
About, uh, Marion Barry.
Oh yes!
Oh yes yes yes!
Um...
I'm just wondering, does anyone know where the MyPillow truck is?
Has it reached Ottawa yet?
I don't know.
I doubt it because we received the heads up two days ago.
That image, let's put it back up on the screen, of the MyPillow trucks that are heading to Canada with the MyPillows for the truckers.
I only received that photograph This morning from MyPillow.
Dawn at MyPillow, thank you for sending that.
So I would expect, Victor, they are still en route.
Good.
That's good.
And I got the Megamug Man and the Megamug Gal sitting in my living room, you know, on the windowsill in my living room.
So when people come to the house, they'll either smile or get mad at me.
Are you triggering liberals, Victor, in Silver Spring?
Uh, yes.
All right, let's put those images out there.
It's one of my favorite products.
I mean, everything Randy has put on our site is superb.
But our America First mugs, made in America, so cool because they actually have an eagle on the base of the mug.
And also the I'm a MAGA man and I'm a MAGA gal mug.
You've got to have it, guys.
You've got to tell the world who you are.
You believe in America first.
You believe in making America great again.
Although, and I have to, I'm going to say this to the president when I see him, it's not necessarily CAG or MAGA anymore.
It's saving America.
After the last year, I think our motto has to be saving America.
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I just asked him for, um... He says you can use his cell or Skype.
Shall we try Skype?
Yeah.
Um, okay.
I'm sure it's the same as before.
You still have a Skype, right, Eric?
I'm pretty sure I do.
Yeah, let me check.
I can send it to you.
Mike Graham.
Gee, where's the G in here?
Oh yeah, I have it.
Um...
But I'll send you his cell just in case.
Okay.
Any titles in mind for Lindsay and or the pre-record?
Hang on a second.
30 seconds.
Yeah.
Alright, can you make a Chiron with this?
We've got 20 seconds.
I know.
Alright guys, I need you to keep the pressure on the Defence Department for hosting a commie at Fort McNair at National Defence University.
They're not picking up the phone after I was on Bannon's show, and after I gave out the phone number yesterday, because that's how cowardly Lloyd Austin is.
That's how cowardly Mark Milley, because guess what?
National Defence University belongs to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, to Mark Milley, and they're all bloody cowards.
So, how about this?
Go to www.ndu.edu, that's National Defense University, so ndu.edu and click on the contact tab and fill in the message and send a message to the Lieutenant General, Lieutenant General Pline of NDU, who is the president of that organization that you pay for, that no communists like Thomas Pickety on Fort McNair.
He's talking tomorrow.
Let's get them to cancel that outrageous event.
Back to your calls.
Pepe in El Paso.
It's been a long time, Pepe.
Buenas tardes, Dr. Gorka.
Como esta?
Buenas tardes.
I'm doing very well.
It's good to hear your voice.
Same here, Dr. Gorka.
And I second the motion.
Next National Security Advisor, Dr. Gorka.
I was.
I was, Dr. Gorka.
Well, think about it.
to Bannon today, were you?
I was, I was, Dr. Gorka.
He said it twice.
Bannon said, next, the National Security Advisor at the Trump administration is Dr. G.
That could be fun, don't you think?
Well, think about it.
Who better?
I mean, I would sleep very soundly at night knowing you're there.
Well, I think we'd have to second you from your current position, get you in the swamp to help me to fire all those generals and get serious about national security.
What triggered you to call us today?
Well, I listen to you as much as I can.
Just because of my work, I'm not able to call in.
But... It's hard when you're on a skiff, right?
It's very difficult in Eskif, Dr. Gorka.
But I happen to think, you know, there's a lot of... In El Paso, people thought it was a predominantly Democrat town, right?
Well, seems as though that that's not the case anymore.
Tell us, tell us, tell us, tell us.
What's going on in El Paso?
We've got a great movement, grassroots here, that is just turning the tables.
And what I was telling your screen caller is that, your call screener, I'm sorry, Is that, um, a lot of these narratives that you were discussing with Dr. Lindsay a little while ago, um, are falling apart.
And I think that it's because number one, people are looking to information for information, other places.
Yeah.
Number two, though, um, and I'm speaking from, from, uh, you know, being Mexican American, um, a lot of us have this are, are conservatives by nature.
It's just that so many people have had the wool pulled over their eyes and don't know any better.
But now that the message is getting out, I firmly believe that we're starting to turn the tide.
I think you're right, Pepe.
I'm going to quote you.
I'm just going to say thanks to a caller.
I'm going to tweet it out in the break.
The narrative is collapsing and it's thanks to you, our dear listeners and people like Pepe.
Stay with us here on America First.
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Hello, Mr. Graham, can you hear us?
Wow, those cookies are good.
I can, Jeff.
It's-- can you hear me?
We can hear you.
The audio sounds a little bit crackly.
Wanna keep talking for a bit?
Yeah, okay.
I've got some ear pods in at the moment.
I can take those out if you think you can hear better.
How does that sound?
Yeah, okay, let me do that.
Hello?
Is that any better?
Yeah, try taking them out and see if that helps.
Two minutes.
Yeah, okay, let me do that.
Hello?
Is that any better?
Sounds not great.
He's sitting down.
He'll put his headphones in in just a moment, but he can hear it for himself, I think.
Is it?
Do we have the K lift?
The audio's not great.
Oh.
Say something, Mike?
Do you know what?
The signal... Let me try and get a better signal.
One sec.
Let me try and get a better signal.
One sec.
Is this about Andrew, by the way?
Andrew?
We can talk about that if you want.
No, I just... It wasn't filmed.
We're just going to have some fun.
Okay, cool.
Oh, that's better.
Stay where you are.
Stay where you are.
That's really clear.
It's still moving.
This is good?
Yeah, this sounds great.
Okay.
In that case, let me sit down.
In a wood-beamed house in Connecticut.
Look at that style.
This is an old salt and pepper, what do you call it?
A salt box house from the 18th century.
Oh my gosh.
You must love your mum, because the photographs of you and your mum, Mike.
You must have a good relationship.
We do.
We have a very good relationship.
She's exactly like me.
She doesn't take any shit from anybody.
And how come she's living in America?
Well, she originally moved here because my sister lives here in Connecticut.
And when I split up with my first wife, who was American, my kids were here, so they figured my parents moved here to be close to them, because I was here all the time, you know?
Oh, superb.
20 seconds to live.
Can you tell Cassio Mike's on?
I did.
Oh, great.
All right.
So, Independent Republic of Mike Graham.
All right, 10 seconds.
Who's doing your show, Mike?
A guy called Kevin O'Sullivan.
Oh, yes.
Stand by.
This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
How did John do that?
He's playing status quo for our next guest.
What a perfect choice.
It's over.
The Biden regime has fallen.
They've allowed Mike Graham into the country.
Yes, he's on American shores.
He is the caliph of the independent republic of Mike Graham, our buddy from across the Atlantic from talk radio.
But now he's here.
He's going to save us from the crazies in the White House.
Mike, welcome to America.
Thank you very much indeed, Sebastian.
Now, listen, they tried to stop me getting in because we came over on a very nice flight.
No problems at all.
Landed at Kennedy.
Well, we didn't have a gate.
And the pilot, the pilot said, we're hoping to have one soon.
About 15 minutes later, he said, I don't know how to tell you this, guys, but basically the only thing I can say to describe The state of New York and the Kennedy Airport people is this utter chaos, complete chaos.
So when I lived in Europe and we always flew through Germany to Kennedy and Kennedy is your first point of, you know, embarkation or disembarkation in America where you have to go through immigration.
is was and is a flipping disaster because you're actually you're coming off transatlantic flights by the truckload and you're actually funneled through a single door and a single escalator mike it is it is like the third world yeah well do you know i think i've said this to you before so much when i moved here in the 1980s to the united states of america to make my fortune which i then did it was a very different country it was run by ronald reagan you know everything was great everything worked
Everything that you wanted to do, you could do.
Right.
And in Britain, it was awful.
You couldn't do anything.
Everyone was on strike.
You couldn't get a job.
You couldn't buy a house.
You didn't make any money.
You couldn't even find a decent restaurant in London to eat in.
Right now, the situation appears to have reversed.
America's gone back to the 70s for Britain.
It's like 70s Britain, where the roads are all screwed up.
There's potholes everywhere.
You know, the traffic jams are ludicrous, ridiculous.
Every vehicle you get in feels like it's been driven Over, you know, sort of rocks and boulders for the last 10 hours before you got in here.
It's just incredible.
I mean, only good news was it was a Sunday night.
So I-95 wasn't the usual, you know, ridiculous light cavalcade of hours and hours and hours and hours.
And I am in a very nice part of Connecticut, which is rather civilized, I have to say.
Much better than New York City.
And you know what?
New York City used to be my town.
I'm not even going there.
Because I don't want to go and see what de Blasio has done to the place.
He's killed the place.
I'm not going back till he's gone.
You are a wise, wise man.
He's here seeing his dear old mum.
And gosh, he must love her because the posts on Instagram, the photographs.
When you're back in the UK, you're right.
All I see of you when you're out of the studio is a massive groaning tables of amazing food.
You're having a nice glass of claret.
So he knows how to live.
Follow him right now.
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It's a fabulous, brilliant... I mean, it's, it's... What is it?
The Home of Common Sense, Mike, right?
It's the Home of Common Sense.
What could be better, you know?
And a place where you find the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, unlike the BBC.
And the odd guest who tells you what's going on in the swamp.
Now I'm going to turn the tables on you.
You need to be our correspondent.
You may be here in the US, but yes, it's amazing.
What happened to Bojo?
No masks?
The UK reopening?
What happened, Mike?
Well, you know, isn't it funny that we've discovered that not only does COVID not attack you when you're eating, it also doesn't attack you If your political career is in danger of going down the toilet, because you become immediately immune to the disease and the virus.
And all you have to do is lift all the restrictions and people think you're a good guy again.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, Mike.
This level of cynicism.
Are you saying that yesterday's decision by the mayor of Washington to open up the institutions, the museums, no vaccination passports.
Do you mean that's because Biden and the Democrats are tanking, Mike?
Well, I think that could have something to do with it.
You know, I mean, I'm hearing news from north of here.
By carrier pigeon coming out of Canada since nobody's allowed to cross the border, you know, that apparently the the king of the World Hide and Seek Championship, which is Justin Trudeau, has finally decided also that Covid isn't in Canada anymore because he's not looking terribly popular either.
You know, isn't it funny that these characters, these absolute, you know, I don't know what to describe, spineless cowards, you have locked everybody up who didn't ever believe a word of it are now coming around to the idea because of their own political skins.
That actually, you know what?
Covid wasn't really the problem.
Yeah.
It's funny that these people, as of yesterday's decision of Emergency Powers Act being instituted by Trudeau against the working class, which is a bit ironic coming from the Labour Party.
Yeah.
As soon as that's instituted, the internet was flooded with, you know, him in SS uniforms.
He's a Nazi.
But it's weird because they're cowardly Nazis, right?
This isn't the, you know, the SS A hardcore Battle of the Bulge guys.
These are guys who run away and hide when working class truckers come to their capital, Mike.
I know.
It's incredible, isn't it?
Absolutely.
And also how ludicrous and hypocritical that he should lecture people about racism.
He's the guy that put the blackface on.
You know, I didn't.
I don't remember putting blackface on to go to a party.
I don't know whether you ever did.
Never!
With all of these characters, you know, oh, let's dress up in a Nazi uniform.
Be funny.
You know, and then tell everybody else not to be a Nazi.
Well, you're the guy that dressed up and you're the person who has proven themselves to be a complete and utter hypocrite, out of touch with ordinary men and women.
And people are fed up with it.
They've had enough.
And quite right, too, that the people of the world, Sebastian, I'm now going to wreak their revenge, because we were right all along, and they were bloody wrong.
Yeah, it's glorious.
We had one of the best experts on critical race theory on the left open the show, James Lindsay, and he concurred with me.
It's going to be the mama bears at the school board meetings and the truck drivers that save our civilization.
We talk to Mike Graham, Talk Radio.
Follow him right now.
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Give us a little bit of, for those, the millions of listeners in America who maybe haven't followed the precursor to Boris Johnson suddenly saying, well, England can be free again, because of course Scotland's a little bit different, as is Wales.
Give us the back story.
So what was 10 Downing Street, what was the Prime Minister's headquarters doing all through Covid on Friday nights, Mike?
Well, apparently it was traditional because they didn't really think that there was a problem with the rules because it didn't apply to them because they're all Oxbridge graduates.
They've all got very, very expensively paid for degrees by mummy and daddy.
And they've gone to work for the government and they thought it'd be a great idea to go down to the local supermarket, pick up about a dozen or so bottles of wine, put them in a suitcase, wheel them back to the seat of government of Great Britain and have a party.
And sometimes the parties would go on Until one, two, three in the morning.
I mean, God knows what was going on in there.
I mean, you know what these political types are like, you know, the old drugs would have been out, you know, who knows who was in the room cupboard with whom, you know, all sorts of scandal probably would emerge.
And so for them, telling everybody else that they couldn't meet anyone outside except for one person, that they couldn't, if they had to go to a funeral of their own father or mother, only five people could attend.
I myself was prevented from flying to America, as you know, to see my mother.
Who turns 98, by the way, next month.
And you know, I'm never going to forgive them.
You know, people say, oh, it's all over now.
Let's not be, you know, too critical.
Well, this is the question I wanted to ask you.
So I can't tell because, you know, I left the UK in 1993 and I listened to you.
I listened to a handful of decent people who are actual journalists.
But do the British people, is this Voltafass on masks and on lockdowns?
Is it because he's really in trouble?
Or do the British people not care about what's happening behind closed doors?
Well, you know, I think the problem for Boris Johnson is people have got a bit bored with all the stories about the parties because there's literally so many of them.
I mean, it wasn't even just a Friday night thing.
I think it was practically every night.
But, you know, it's a bit like when you look at Boris Johnson's history with Fidelity, you know, you mean his lack of history with Fidelity?
Quite.
I mean, I'm trying to put it as gently as I possibly can.
But he now looks like a guy standing on the stoop Of his own house, having just been found out by his wife for the 35th time to be having an affair.
And he promises her that she's not going to do it.
He's never going to do it again.
And nobody believes him anymore.
And it's not so much that he's betrayed the public over coronavirus and the restrictions, but he's not done the conservative thing.
You know, he's become obsessed with net zero, which we all know is a Marxist construct, which has come from somewhere between Davos and Extinction Rebellion.
Also, BS, right?
Nobody cares about net zero.
I was in Newcastle shortly before I came over to the United States of America in a very working class area just outside of the city of Newcastle.
I asked the question.
I was doing a live show.
I said, does anybody here care about net zero?
Not one of the hundreds of people, not one of them put their hand up to say we care because they don't care.
They don't want electric cars.
They want to be able to feed their kids.
They want to be able to have a nice foreign holiday without being taxed by some green government.
So you shouldn't be flying.
You know, it's absolutely shocking.
Migrants, I've said to you before, arriving on our shores, you know, illegally.
We're paying five million pounds a day to put them in hotels.
You know, what struck me here, I'm pleased to see that still in this country, you have discounts for veterans.
You have parking spots for veterans.
Do you know what we do for them?
We let them get homeless and live on the street.
So, yes, if you're from Ethiopia or Somalia, you get a nice hotel room and some pizza.
Yeah, paid for by the British taxpayer.
Well, we're smuggling them across the country in unmarked planes.
CIA contractors smuggling them into places like Westchester County.
So there's more connections than not.
He's going to stay with us for another segment because we can't not exploit Mike Graham being here in America.
This is America First on the Salem Radio Network with me, your host, Sebastian Gorger.
Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't you dare touch that dial.
Mic's back on.
Can you send me that story about the Andrew paying seven million?
What's that?
Can you send me the story about Prince Andrew paying seven million?
Yeah.
Hey, where's your mum?
I need to see your mum.
I know, we'll see if we can get her up.
Are you going to come over and meet Sebastian?
No, she's having a little nap at the moment.
All right.
How long are you in the US?
Well, I'm here until Monday of next week.
We're flying out Monday of next week.
But my son, I've got a son who lives in California, that god-awful state.
I've managed to airlift him out of there.
So he's coming over to the sensible state of Connecticut, which at least is more sensible than California.
So he'll be here as well on Friday.
Well, give him my contact details.
If there's anything I can ever do for him, then I'm happy to help.
You're very kind and absolutely I will.
You know, the thing about being back in America, though, is that it's interesting to watch the people walking around because, you know, you appear to have the same problem here as people have in Britain, which is that, you know, the Democrats here, who I would equate to the kind of champagne socialist of Britain.
And this is a wealthy part of Connecticut I'm in.
They're all still wearing their masks.
Right.
I've been walking around.
I went into this local coffee shop.
Right.
And I said to my son, because he's a great fan of yours, by the way, So much so that he picked up a guns and ammo magazine in a shop we were in and said, can I buy this?
I was like, I'm not sure your mother would like it.
But I took him around Walmart to show him where the bullets get sold.
And we were basically looking around in this coffee shop, everyone very well to do.
We were the only people not wearing masks.
There was loads of signs saying We would like you to wear a mask.
And I was just like, isn't it funny that, you know, in the olden days, the outlaws used to be the people that wore the mask.
Now it's the people who don't wear the masks.
I gotta tell you this story.
I don't know if I told you this when I was on your show.
So this was deep COVID about a year ago.
I'm in 7-Eleven getting a Slurpee on the way to the studio.
And the owners are a lovely Nepalese couple.
They know I've had COVID.
They know I don't wear masks.
They don't care.
They've got the giant Perspex screen.
They've got the mask.
They're just used to me.
I'm paying for my Slurpee.
There's a guy about 15 feet away, old guy, double mask, full Perspex mask, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm paying and he goes, put your mask on!
Unbelievable.
And I ignore him.
And I keep on pacing.
Put your mask on before you kill me!
And then he does this.
He says, put your mask on because otherwise I'm going to kill you before you kill me with my Glock.
And I go...
And he doesn't know that I'm packing, so I have a permit to carry in DC, in Virginia, in Maryland, I have all those permits, and so I'm not gonna let this arsehole, you know, shoot up the Nepalese 7-Eleven.
So I follow him out to the car, I do an Andrew Breitbart, get out my phone, start videoing him, he gets into a jag, of course, I take a photograph of the license plate, And as soon as he sees that, he hightails it out there.
And I filed the whole thing to the police.
People have gone flipping insane.
They have.
I mean, again, airports, people are wearing a mask in the airport until they sit down.
I actually came through into Kennedy Airport and I watched the immigration official because I said, surely to God, You don't want people wearing masks here.
You don't want to know that the picture is the same as the one on the passport.
And, of course, they're asking you to pull the mask down so they can identify them.
Are you going, what am I, have I landed in some kind of Alice in Wonderland?
No, it's the Twilight Zone.
It is utterly the Twilight Zone.
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What a fun show today from James Lindsay being in the swamp, getting him in here to talk about his brand new book, Race Marxism, to having the chief of investigations for Judicial Watch for a whole hour, for the third hour of the show, former counterintelligence officer, you don't want to miss Chris Farrell, to having our buddy The Captain of Common Sense from Talk Radio from the United States, none other than Mike Graham.
Do you like that, Captain of Common Sense, Mike?
I do like that.
I think I may borrow that, if I may, with your permission.
With permission.
Use it liberally.
OK, let's talk about news from across the pond, breaking today from, of course, the Daily Mail.
Daily Mail says Prince Andrew has reached a settlement worth 7 million euros with Virginia Guffrey, who accused him of doing sexually illegal things with her.
How big?
I mean, look, I grew up in the UK.
For me, you know, the E.R.
Roman II on the post boxes on my beret cap badge in the territorial army.
Big thing.
The royal family.
Isn't this massive, Mike?
Well, it's absolutely enormous.
It's the biggest royal story, I think, Certainly of my lifetime.
And in that lifetime, I include, you know, the death of the Princess of Wales, you know, Charles remarrying, you know, the whole Harry and Meghan situation.
You know, everything that has happened today has been extraordinary.
And I can tell you how extraordinary, because I was doing what I do best when I come to America, spending the almighty dollar by buying some new clothes up just north of where I am.
And the guy in the store, Knowing that I was British, when I started hearing my voice, he started talking to me about the Royal Family.
And he said, what's going on with Prince Andrew?
He said, you know, what's happening with Harry?
People are fascinated.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but this is incredible.
He's been stripped of his titles, hasn't he?
Oh, he totally has.
He has not performed any kind of public service as the Duke of York, as the Queen's favourite son.
for over a year.
He withdrew from public service.
He's not.
And it's her platinum year this year, right?
Yes.
Kicked off just a week or two ago.
And Prince Andrew will take no part in any of the celebrations that his mother is going to be celebrating throughout the course of the year.
And quite frankly, it's an absolute and utter disgrace what he has done, because I'm told by people in London that his mother ordered him to make this settlement because at the beginning, The idea was that he was going to fight this case.
He said he was demanding a jury trial.
He said she was telling lies.
He said the photograph of him with his hand around her waist was a fabrication.
He claimed he didn't know his Lane Maxwell very well.
She wasn't really his friend, except it now turns out that she was one of his best friends and had access to Buckingham Palace at all times.
We know his history with Jeffrey Epstein.
Even after he was a convicted pedophile, Andrew was the person who went and stayed in his townhouse in New York City.
After he had been convicted.
Wow.
I mean, it's an absolute travesty, right?
And so seven and a half million pounds, which Andrew doesn't have, by the way.
So mummy will have coughed up the money for that.
So thanks very much indeed.
But what a real embarrassment.
I mean, thank God this is all now over and done with, because it would have been a terrible embarrassment to the queen in this year, because I'm told that the American lawyer who was working for the young woman basically was planning to say to him, what did the queen know about this and when did she know it?
I mean, can you imagine?
What sort of constitutional crisis that would bring on?
And this, the platinum anniversary of her coronation, I'm just gonna, it's one of my prized possessions, I don't know where it is right now, but I had a mug when I was seven years old for the silver jubilee of her coronation, the Queen on it.
1977.
1977, yes.
All right, let's tie all of these things together because clearly he's a representative of an illegitimate elite if he's hanging around with Jeffrey Epstein.
When it comes to Brexit in the UK, the MAGA movement here in America, and then the truckers in Canada, You've got to have a really warm feeling that the good guys, that the common sense people are winning, Mike.
Yeah.
Well, listen, aside from the rather strange bump in the road known as sleepy, creepy Beijing Joe Biden, these guys don't get tired of losing.
You know, they lost Brexit.
They're losing the Covid battle.
Biden really didn't win the election, as we all know, because Donald Trump actually got more votes than any previous president ever got.
And somehow Biden, the man who couldn't organise a rally for 10 people, managed to beat him.
Nobody knows how that happened.
You know, I think we are winning.
And guess what?
There's a reason why we're winning, Sebastian, because we've got the right on our side, because we know what the ordinary people think.
We understand how they feel.
You know, do you think Biden has a clue of the ordinary people in Pennsylvania?
You know, as the former president said, This is a guy who spent 46 years at the trough of public service doing nothing, achieving nothing, making nothing but debt for the country that he represented.
And we've got the same kind of problem in London.
There are still people who think if they get rid of Boris Johnson, we'll rejoin the European Union.
Are you serious?
Yes, they do.
Lord Heseltine is one of them.
He thinks the man stabbed Maggie in the back.
Yeah, that's the very same man.
He actually there is there is a small rump of these kind of Extremist Remainers.
I call them the Remainer Taliban, right?
They want to get back into Brussels, right?
But we're not going to go back into Brussels.
No, thank you very much indeed.
So does Boris Johnson right now, with the cancellation of the masks and the mandates and the shutdown, does he survive this latest scandal of the parties at Downing Street under the Covid restrictions?
Well, he does until such time as the police report comes out and until the May elections.
We've got local elections in May.
If the Tory party get trounced, which everyone thinks they will be, we think then the party will move against him.
Because the way it works in Britain is it's only really the other Conservative MPs that can get rid of him.
We can't.
He's not going to call an election.
He's too far ahead.
Labour are never getting in because Zakir Starmer, the opposition leader, is a complete and utter idiot with no charisma whatsoever.
So I think he hangs around.
But until and unless he gets rid of it, he dumps this net zero crap.
I'm afraid the people are never going to vote him back in as Prime Minister because nobody can afford an electric car.
They can't afford the electricity bills.
Let me tell you the latest from the world of net zero.
A company in Scotland bought all electric coaches, a bus company bought all electric coaches, right?
The price of electricity has now gone so high that they're having to use diesel powered generators to charge up the buses.
And on top of that, I heard this report that the only two fracking sites in the UK on Boris's orders are being filled up with concrete.
I bet the people are paying more for their electricity.
I really appreciate it.
Well, this is it.
I mean, people don't care where the electricity comes from.
It frankly should come from under our own feet.
We should control it.
Your President Trump I remember under Maggie, North Sea oil made the UK the envy of Europe.
That's what we should all be doing.
What the hell are we doing relying on President Putin for our gas?
I remember under Maggie, North Sea Oil made the UK the envy of Europe.
That's what every nation needs to do on either side of the Atlantic.
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Can you play me 456?
The left loves to memorialize January 6th as an attack on our democracy, but if that's true, then what's this?
The Russia hoax and the three-year Mueller investigation did more to undermine faith in our democracy than January 6th.
Look at the impact it's had on our country.
The credibility of the FBI and the CIA shattered.
Federal prosecutors at the Department of Justice no longer trust it.
A presidential campaign was broken into, was spied on.
And who knows how the Russia hoax affected that race.
The 2018 election was interfered with.
The Mueller investigation hung a dark cloud over those midterms, costing Republicans the House.
The nation was divided.
Our foreign policy was affected.
Here's how the measures we're taking today will help get the situation under control.
The police will be given more tools to restore order in places where public assemblies can constitute illegal and dangerous activities, such as blockades and occupations, as seen in Ottawa, the Ambassador Bridge, and elsewhere.
These tools include strengthening their ability to impose fines or imprisonment.
It's a level of admiration I actually have for China.
Because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say, we need to go green as fast as we need to start, you know, investing in solar.
I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship that he could do everything he wanted.
That I find quite interesting.
Alright, I'm going to play both of those Trudeau ones, and then give me seven.
Seven.
The illegal blockades have highlighted the fact that crowdfunding platforms and some of the payment service providers they use are not fully captured under the Proceeds of Crime and Terrorist Financing Act.
As of today, All crowdfunding platforms and the payment service providers they use must register with FinTrack and they must report large and suspicious transactions to FinTrack.
That's incredible.
So they tell us to build our own platforms and then when we do they'll just shut us out of the government.
Terrorism.
Can you play me as much as you can out of two?
Out of two.
So you've got Trump out there calling for these people to be put to death when really what happened is Rodney Joffe was trying to keep Barack Obama safe from hackers.
That's all it is.
And that's why Trump wants these people killed.
What the hell was that?
What the hell was that?
Wait a minute, what?
That's MSNBC today.
That's incredible!
He said it started before... Yeah, because it started during his campaign, not before he was president.
And Mika's like, ugh, like so upset over it and everything.
Do you want to come in with anything?
Yeah, no, I'll teed up.
And who is Marcy Wheeler?
She was the big MSNBC guest they had to have on to talk about it because she does more on Morning Show.
Wow.
Morning Show went ballistic today about it.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
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I haven't even touched in depth on the events in Canada.
Let's start with Trudeau's announcement about what he's going to do with the truckers.
Cut five!
Here's how the measures we're taking today will help get the situation under control.
The police will be given more tools to restore order in places where public assemblies can constitute illegal and dangerous activities, such as blockades and occupations, as seen in Ottawa, the Ambassador Bridge, and elsewhere.
These tools include strengthening their ability to impose fines or imprisonment.
Yeah, because we don't have the freedom of speech enshrined in our Constitution.
There is no First Amendment in Canada, so the right to peaceable assembly can just be negated and we can arrest you.
Here is his deputy Prime Minister telling the world what's going to happen with the millions raised for the working class truckers.
The illegal blockades have highlighted the fact that crowdfunding platforms and some of the payment service providers they use are not fully captured under the Proceeds of Crime and Terrorist Financing Act.
As of today, All crowdfunding platforms and the payment service providers they use must register with FinTrack and they must report large and suspicious transactions to FinTrack.
So, if you gave money to the truckers through Give Send Go, you're now the same as somebody funding terrorism because the truckers who don't want to be locked in quarantine simply to do their job are now reclassified as terrorists.
Well, good luck with that.
Eric, what were you saying about Give Send Go?
They just said, well, sorry, you don't have jurisdiction, correct?
That is what the spokespeople for GiveSendGo have said, yes.
Fabulous.
Let's put that link up there.
Let's put the GiveSendGo address because we need to keep supporting the truckers.
Not the GoFundMe page that stole $10 million from Americans, from people across the country, but the GiveSendGo Christian site that has collected more than $6 million.
We're going to share that with you momentarily, but here we have a clip Here we go.
GiveSendGo slash FreedomConvoy2022.
That's GiveSendGo.com slash FreedomConvoy2022.
Give as much as you can.
Here's really the explanation for why Trudeau is doing what he's doing.
This is a clip from him just joking about Communist China eight years ago.
The level of admiration I actually have for China.
because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say, we need to go green as fast as we need to start investing in solar.
I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about, of having a dictatorship that he could do everything he wanted, that I find quite interesting.
Ha, ha, ha.
I guess people who suffered under communism, under the flexibility that you so admire, like my parents, like people tortured in Ceausescu's jails in East Germany, in the Soviet Union, in Vietnam, the people executed in North Korea for wrong think, but they think it's so funny the people executed in North Korea for wrong think, but they you That's the head of the Liberal Party in Canada.
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Cut one and three.
You see on Fox News, you have, talk about Carlson and other people saying, you know, they're looking at, they must be looking, they're intercepting internet traffic, they must be looking at email or text messages.
Not possible.
DNFs now, DNFs now.
Who could be that stupid?
I ask you, who could be that stupid to actually say that on their television show?
You don't really want me to make a list, do you?
A lot of people did.
A lot of people did.
Or else, they know They know that they're lying to their audience, that they're liars, and they're deliberately lying about this.
You know who really needs to be held accountable?
Probably the primary coast conspirators is the mainstream media.
I don't believe they were just simply duped.
I think they were complicit in this.
They continue to be complicit in this.
I'm facing it right now in Wisconsin.
We're running for re-election.
The Democrat Party, they make something up, the mainstream media picks it up, and runs stories on it.
Um, nine.
I started the Cancer Moonshot, which I worked very hard on the administration, the administration I served in last.
Uh, ten.
Think about it.
Think about it.
It was well intended originally when, when the child care tax credit, when the child tax credit existed early on, because you said, well, we got to give a break for raising kids.
But I remember he used to drive my dad nuts.
Because we had four kids.
It was a lot less.
It was less than a thousand bucks, Han.
That's incredible.
What's with Joe Scarborough's hair?
What about it?
It's getting lighter every week.
The hair products aren't coming in anymore.
I didn't notice his hair at all.
He's like blonde.
He's like Mika now.
He was angry.
Why is he so angry?
The whole hour.
I couldn't believe they talked about it today.
They talk about it a ton.
For Mike?
Yeah.
Prince Andrew buys his victims silence.
He basically describes everything he did the last three years with it.
Like, I could be that so stupid lying to viewers.
Oh.
It's basically everything he did.
Right.
He wasn't even talking about, like, DNS something something.
You can't view emails.
Like, they're making it up.
He had some nerd there I've never seen before to say there's no possible way you could do text back.
That was that guy.
Yeah, right.
They're just making it up at this point.
Okay, 15 seconds.
He's probably an intern.
We've got my pillow in relief here.
Do you want to come in with anything from my pillow?
Uh, audio.
Alright, gotcha.
Not that the FBI is even sniffing and looking.
But what if somebody came in and said, you know what?
We are going to subpoena all his account records and this and that, and then all of a sudden we make the news.
So it's more of a reputation risk.
That is the Senior Vice President of the Heartland Financial Bank in Minnesota, shutting down nine of Mike Lindell's bank accounts.
What is he doing?
Is he surrendering?
Is he shutting down his company?
No.
He's actually filled 18 wheelers, tractor trailers, with pillows.
For who?
For the truckers in Canada.
Yes, there's the photograph of the convoy leaving his plant to support the truckers.
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Got to play you this call because allegedly Mr. G says Joe Scarborough was angry all morning.
But he's talking about what story?
Yeah, the big story.
Hillary Clinton spied on the Trump White House.
Cut one.
You see on Fox News, you have, talk about Carlson and other people saying, you know, they're looking at, they must be looking, they're intercepting internet traffic, they must be looking at email or text messages.
Not possible.
DNFs, now, who could be that stupid?
I ask you, who could be that stupid to actually say that on their television show?
You don't really want me to make a list, do you?
A lot of people did.
A lot of people did.
Or else, they know They know that they're lying to their audience, that they're liars, and they're deliberately lying about this.
Jeff, isn't it, um, risky for somebody like Joe Scarborough to say three times, they know they're lying to their audience?
Yeah, when he did that for the last four years.
Yeah, yeah.
He was very angry there.
He was very upset.
They were very upset today.
I turned it on because I didn't think they would talk about it.
Yeah.
And I was surprised.
They were firing off with everything that they could do.
Which means they're probably desperate.
Or nervous.
That's what I mean.
Yes.
That's what I mean.
They're very nervous.
Because if you read the latest Durham document, It basically says not just that private entities were spying on President Trump, his residents, his offices in the White House.
If you read it carefully you'll see that it was a government entity that was assisting that espionage.
I hope this man is really building a case.
Because in the meantime MSNBC They're just risible.
They're clowns.
This is Marcy Wheeler's explanation of this blockbuster story that makes Watergate totally and utterly irrelevant.
Cut to.
So you've got Trump out there calling for these people to be put to death when really what happened is Rodney Joffe was trying to keep Barack Obama safe from hackers.
That's all it is.
And that's why Trump wants these people killed.
So, and Durham knows that.
Durham knows that this data precedes Trump.
He didn't include it in the filing.
So he's got everyone all worked on Fox News.
John Ratcliffe, you showed him earlier.
Kash Patel is the source of many of these false claims.
They were both witnesses to John Durham.
And Kash Patel has known about this allegation going back to December 2017, because he's the one who first asked Michael Sussman about it.
Michael Sussman was honest about it back in December 2017.
And Kash Patel, when he was a Homeland Intelligence Committee staffer, when he was working in the White House, When he was the chief of staff for DoD, he did nothing about this because he knew that all that Rodney Jaffe was doing was trying to keep the White House safe from hackers.
That's what this is about.
Yeah, that's actually, you gotta laugh for a second then you realize, hang on, so a middle-aged IT executive is privately securing Obama's administration from hackers because the multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-billion dollar budget of the NSA isn't enough.
Yeah, they really think that you are that stupid.
On this topic, Glenn Arizona, line two.
Hey, Sebastian.
So listen, I have six books, yours, War for America's Soul.
I have the two by Greg Jarrett.
But it was Andy McCarthy's book, Ball of Collusion, that stuck with me.
He said something that has stuck with me since that day.
He said that when they got the FISA warrants on Trump, they were able to hide behind the courts.
They were able to... These are the agents.
They were able to sit here.
Oh!
We had a judge sign off!
The issue that they're having are... And I heard you in this call screener in between.
I mean, the call screener you were speaking to.
They're not nervous, Sebastian.
They're desperate.
Because in this case, they can't hide behind the courts.
They spied on him, and initially when I read your book, along with Greg Jarrett's and Dan Bongino's book, I was under the impression the NSA and the CIA were doing this.
Now we're finding out it was the DNC and Hillary, and they're desperate.
They don't know what to do because they can't hide, as Andy McCarthy said, behind the FISA courts to basically inoculate them of any punishment.
These people are desperate, Sebastian.
Yeah, I hope so.
I can't give you the source, but I was told by a former CIA station chief, not Daniel Hoffman, somebody else who served in the Middle East, that when we were in the White House, there was a four-man team of contractors inside the NSA that were tasked with targeting myself, Steve Bannon, and other members of the White House administration.
Somebody else related to the Secret Service said, So this is today's the text I have here.
So it's not just, you know, a handful of you.
Here's a list of the people who were targeted by the US government contractors.
And I'm gonna read this.
Nobody else knows this, except my team.
This is fresh, fresh, fresh.
The Trump administration was targeted by elements of the US Intelligence community, that's Donald Trump, that's Ben Carson, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Lara Trump, Melanie Trump, the First Lady, even Jared Kushner, Jason Miller, David Bossie, Sam Clovis, that was part of the MAGA team inside the administration, Carter Page, of course, George Papadopoulos.
We have also, outside of the administration, targeted by the NSA, Ted Cruz.
We have, of course, Mike Flynn.
We have, outside the administration, Rudolph Giuliani and, of course, Roger Stone.
Guys, that is from an unimpeachable source.
I trust implicitly this story will get bigger.
Thank you, Glenn, for that superb comment.
Yes, I think they are worried.
I just hope some of them pay a price.
I hope they actually get arrested.
And they stand in a dock for their crimes.
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Thank you, dear friend.
What brings you to our sunny shores today?
Well, I wanted to piggyback on James Lindsay's race Marxism.
Wasn't that good?
Outstanding.
But I wanted to add the acronym DI-Marxism.
Using racist diversity, insane inclusion, and equitable death.
Carry on.
Yeah, we lend Marxism legitimacy and credibility.
When we fraudulently label it an academic or an intellectual pursuit, when in fact it's just pure nihilism, Nazism and Satanism.
Let me interrupt your soliloquy there.
This is actually very deep.
Because when we use the terminology of theory, we kind of miss the diabolical essence of what we're talking about.
And that's what you're trying to say, correct?
Precisely.
Because I see it's a deadly toxin and it's formed into a palatable appearing pill that is swallowed blindly just as we blindly inject toxic mRNA spikes into our bloodstream or take CCP fentanyl-laced pills.
And Mao Tse-Tung said it best when he taught Communism is not love.
Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy.
So what do we call it, Brent?
Let me recruit you to try and answer that question.
Do we just call it evil?
Do we call it the evils of Marxism?
How do we separate it from that kind of academic ivory tower kind of Marxism?
Well, I think as soon as we identify that it isn't a theory built on facts and clear thinking or logic and reason, but it simply is a death machine, I think it's hard to play with words.
But I think that's why I'll call it Satanism.
Yeah, I think that's a great way of putting it.
I think we have to, and I'm going to tweet this out, Marxism isn't a theory.
It is a death machine, and that is the lesson since Das Kapital and since the Communist Manifesto were published in 1848.
Fabulous job, Brent.
Stay on the line.
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The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.
They spied on my campaign, Leslie.
There's no real evidence of that.
Of course there is.
It's all over the place.
Leslie, they spied on my campaign and they got caught.
Sir, can I say something?
You know, this is 60 Minutes, and we can't put on things we can't verify.
No, you won't put it on because it's bad for Biden.
We can't put on things we can't verify.
Leslie, they spied on my campaign.
Well, we can't verify them.
It's been totally verified.
It's been, just go down and get the papers.
They spied on my campaign, they got caught.
No.
And then they went much further than that, and they got caught.
And you will see that, Leslie.
And you know that, but you just don't want to put it on the air.
No.
As a matter of fact, I don't know that.
And they went much further on.
Now we have the proof of not just the campaign for the presidency being spied upon, but actually President Trump's administration.
As we discussed yesterday on the show, here it is.
This is the official court filing.
United States of America versus Michael Sussman.
Former DOJ lawyer.
There's a surprise.
Criminal case number 21582CRC.
And I'll just read one sentence again to all of our millions of listeners in case you missed it yesterday.
The government's evidence at trial will also establish that among the Internet data tech executive one and his associates exploited was domain name system DNS internet traffic pertaining to one.
A particular health care provider.
That's fascinating.
Two, Trump Tower.
Three, Donald Trump's Central Park West apartment building.
And most shocking of all, point four, the executive office of the President of the United States.
In other words, the White House.
None better to analyze this with than the man who is the Director of Investigations and Research for one of the most important entities in the swamp, fighting the swamp.
It is, of course, Judicial Watch, Chris Farrell.
Welcome back to America First One-on-One.
Great to be with you, Seb.
Thanks very much.
So we have the luxury of a little bit longer here and we need to discuss this issue because as far as I'm concerned, and I said this yesterday, this now makes Watergate irrelevant.
Watergate is just a small comma in the history of American politics.
This is a gargantuan scandal if this is demonstrating a court of law.
For those who haven't heard you before on our show, some new listeners, we've got new stations, would you be so kind as to give a brief bio what you did in the U.S.
Army and your specific intel background, Chris?
So I was commissioned as an Army intelligence officer many, many moons ago.
In the good old days of the Cold War.
I miss the Cold War.
It was much simpler.
My life was a lot simpler.
So I was commissioned as a military intelligence officer.
My specialty was counterintelligence.
I spent a lot of time doing counterespionage work.
Let's stop there for a second.
Sure.
For those who aren't in the know, the difference between Intel and CI.
CI, you're catching or misinforming the bad guys, right?
So counterintelligence, the effort is to identify those foreign intelligence services, those hostile forces or powers, trying to spy on the United States and detect them and then in some way disrupt them.
And there's a few different ways of disrupting them.
But you're trying to protect the United States, protect our secrets, protect our forces.
And so, in doing that, you can do counter-espionage investigations.
You can try to find the bad guys and bring them to trial.
You can stop them also by just letting them know, we know what you're doing.
You can shut them down that way.
Light them up.
Ideally, I mean, the holy grail, and I'm very fortunate to have actually done this, is to run an intelligence operation back against them so that they think that they have something that they don't.
give them give them bad goods or to actually recruit a foreign intelligence officer and to you can approach them and say hey look everything we've given you for the last two three years has been under our control and authority we can make you a star um in your own service or maybe that person has a particular need maybe they've got a sick kid or maybe that they're compromised in some other way and they need a way out and we can provide that to them there
It's a cynical joke, but that person may have all the character defects and personality disorders you're looking for, and so we may be able to help them in some way.
So anyway, this is what Eric Ambler called a wilderness of mirrors, right?
It's they think that we know that they think that we know kind of stuff.
The double, triple.
Yeah, so you need a scorecard and a compass to kind of get your way through this.
But it's a fascinating thing to do.
And how many years did you do that?
A little over ten.
And so, I'm not blowing my own horn, I was quite good at it.
And I also went on then to become Running agents.
clandestine human intelligence case officer.
So I went on to what's colloquially referred to as the farm and was cross-trained.
It's essentially the same tradecraft and techniques, but adapted or turned in a different way.
So instead of countering espionage, you're actually conducting a running espionage.
Running agents, assets.
Right.
All right.
Well, that gives us all the credentials we need, and that's why we're so glad you're at Judicial Watch doing this work.
So let me just ask you your raw reaction to the Friday indictment that the White House was being spied upon by lawyers and cyber experts hired by the Hillary campaign.
Yeah, this is astounding stuff.
This has really stopped the press's, you know, 40-font bold headline kind of stuff.
It truly is.
Now, of course, they released it on a Friday before Super Bowl weekend kind of a thing, so they've done everything they could to bury it.
They might as well have released it on the Friday before, you know, some other holiday.
Which also leads me to wonder what the hell Durham's doing.
He's operating at a glacial pace.
Well, this is my natural question.
So let's go straight to that.
Because I've had conflicting reports.
Some people said to me, a former, you know, US Attorney for DC that, no, no, this is good.
This is good.
This is how you reel in the small guys.
And then you get them to flip.
You don't hurry.
You build the case from the bottom up.
And then Many others, myself included, who said, really?
I mean, sorry, what year is it now?
Who's the president?
Who do you charge?
Some minor, minor FBI lawyer who forged a CIA document to say the opposite of what it said and he got, what, 80 hours of community service or something?
And Clinesmith is fully reinstated as a member of the DC bar in good standing.
So he's a model for all of us as far as ethics and You know, just a shining human being.
So we're not inside the investigation.
We don't know what Durham knows.
Correct.
But from the outside, and as a former national security professional, where does the jury stand right now on this whole investigation?
Yeah, I mean, I want to be wrong, but I'm very cynical about it.
Because if President Trump had been reelected and was currently in office, we would be on his fifth or sixth impeachment by now, right?
So the system, when it's a conservative or when it's somebody who's not part of the establishment, when they're the target, they move like lightning.
When it's the left and it's the big, you know, sort of statist leviathan and the Clintons and everything associated with them are great examples of that, then it's a glacial pace.
And that's what Durham's been operating under, a glacial pace.
And so, and even this, which is stunning when you, I mean, look, even this document that's come out, It's an interesting way to tell the story because this filing has to do with trying to get around an apparent conflict of interest.
It's not being arrested for conspiracy.
It's like, oh, you might have a conflict of interest filing.
Correct.
And down in paragraph 10 or whatever it is, they go, oh, by the way, These people were up to this and that's why we're concerned about it.
So it's this very, you know, arm's length, third hand, oh, by the way, sort of way to dump out truly explosive material.
And, you know, only people looking for it are going to find it.
So there's other ways of doing business and they really if they wanted to really be hard-hitting they would be but they're kind of soft peddling it.
Is there any significance do you think to the fact that for at least the last I don't know couple of months at least Comey, Brennan and Hillary have been unusually quiet?
Yeah, you know, I used to encourage him to talk and talk and keep talking because, you know, it only got worse.
And some of the stuff Comey would say, you know, was just crazy, just gibberish.
I mean, nuts.
Brennan the same way.
You know, Brennan would, I would wonder if he was, you know, off his meds or something.
I mean, just crazy language.
So the fact that they've all gotten quiet, maybe they're worried.
Maybe, you know, people have come out of grand jury proceedings or people have been interviewed and kind of, after the fact, whispered and said, hey, look, you know, they're on to X, Y, or Z. And so they're just, they shut up.
Dick Cheney famously said, you never get in trouble for what you don't say.
Yeah.
And maybe that might be the lesson here.
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Chris, there's a perennial question for me, and you said it before.
You said the Brennans, the Comeys, sometimes say really kind of wacky, weird stuff.
And I'm constantly, you know, I like Occam's razor, and having worked in government in the DoD and the White House, it is a true sea of mediocrity.
I mean, the swamp is, you know, you are promoted for mediocrity, truly.
So when I look at these guys, when I look at this administration, you know, the Jake Sullivans and what, I don't see smart people.
Now, you're an individual who had to get the measure of enemy actors.
You had to get the measure of the enemy intelligence service.
You had to get the measure of your liaison services, the targets you're trying to reel in.
I don't see any big brains.
I see arrogance by the dumpster load, but I don't see real sophisticated big thinkers.
I don't see even the Jesus Ankletons.
I don't see the Dulleses of the 50s and 60s.
Am I missing something?
I mean, they don't seem like top-tier operators.
No, you know, look, very often a lot of these sort of careerists in federal government.
And that's what they are, really, is careerists.
They're also opportunists.
Yes, yes.
And so they'll hop on the bandwagon or they'll elbow their way.
They're very good at throwing elbows and, you know, having sharp elbows to position themselves, to maximize opportunity.
But they're really not very deep thinkers.
And There's a lot of fear-based decision-making.
There's a lot of very petty and very selfish and it is an unhealthy mindset.
It is really They're very good at guarding their turf or their rice bowl, and they'll protect what they think is important.
And a lot of stuff is driven by petty, personal, addictive kind of stuff.
I mean, one of the things that I think is interesting is that, you know, you look at someone like General Flynn, and, you know, Flynn was loathed, hated by the FBI, by people like McCabe, in part because there was an FBI agent who had a grievance The FBI agent had known Flynn and had worked with him indirectly on some sort of a task force.
The FBI agent had filed the paperwork, had blamed McCabe for some sort of unfair labor practice, and then had called General Flynn as a witness.
And I don't know whether Flynn gave a statement or he appeared at a hearing.
I forget the details.
I don't know this story.
Yeah, I forget the details of it.
But the agent had said, hey, look, you know, I'm a good agent, I've done the right thing, and I've made tough choices, and I've had good service, and blah blah blah.
McCabe was on the other side of the equation saying, oh no, don't promote him, don't give him the job, don't whatever.
So there's some sort of a grievance thing going on.
The agent had turned to General Flynn and said, General Flynn, you know me, and you know I'm a good person, and Flynn had come in and basically affirmed the agent's claim.
And I forget the details, so don't hold me to it.
I know it occurred.
But the grudge match and the hatred from the McCabe crowd against General Flynn, you know, runs deep because there's this little bureaucratic face-off and you oppose me.
And therefore I hate you.
Right, forever, right?
And so these sorts of petty rivalries Run deep.
And there's examples of this all over the government.
And, you know, there's moral turpitude in truckloads, but I don't see, you know, a Kissingerian figure that is the Grand Master.
I don't see strategic thought, let's say it like that.
No, no, no.
It's much more, they're like petty mobsters.
They're really, you know what I mean?
You're trying to come into my neighborhood?
That's kind of the way they operate.
No one is, you know, remarkable.
Like you said, it's a sea of mediocrity.
Let's listen to one of them.
This is the, my friend Chris Plant calls him penitentiary face Brennan.
This is one of the probably most outrageous things anybody has said in politics in the last century in America.
Play cut.
I don't expect Mr. Putin to acknowledge it.
He's, you know, he's going to deny, deny, deny.
But for the President of the United States to continue to prevaricate on this issue, I think does a great injustice and a disservice to the men and women of the intelligence law enforcement community and does a great disservice to the citizens of the United States.
And that's why I said it was nothing short of treasonous.
Now the damage done to our national security from potential walk-ins to liaison services who now don't trust the then president because the former CIA director says he's a traitor is probably not measurable, it's so large.
Can we identify from the outside, because we have Crossfire Hurricane, which is the first ever tri-agency intelligence operation against a political campaign.
Right.
Where's the, as Clausewitz would put it, where's the center of gravity for that?
Because you've got the Azra Turks of the world, quote-unquote FBI agents, trying to honey trap George Papadopoulos in a London pub.
You've got the NSA involved.
You've got the CIA, the FBI.
Is it Brennan?
Is it Comey obeying Brennan?
Where do you see, is it Rice telling them all what to do?
Given your observations of the last five years, where do you think this all begins?
It's the Oval Office of the Obama White House.
They literally sat there together and had conversations about this.
We're not making this up.
We have a couple of different White House, Comey as well, under oath describing a White House meeting in January about how they all got together and discussed what they were going to do to screw Trump.
And how to use the Logan Act against Mike Flynn.
Right, right.
This is a deliberate... I mean, here's the other thing.
You have a memo from Lisa Page specifically stating the president wants to know everything we're doing.
She's preparing talking points for Comey to go over to the White House.
Her boyfriend, Strzok, is, hey, what are you up to?
What's going on?
She's all bubbly giddy.
She's working on these talking points to brief Comey to go over to the White House, tell him what's going on.
And she specifically says, the president wants to know everything we're doing.
There you go!
And not only that, we have the retroactively post-dated email from January 20th.
We did nothing wrong.
Yeah, as Donald Trump has already been sworn in and Susan Rice is still somehow in the White House writing an email reminding everybody, oh that conversation we had two weeks ago, I'm just going to remind you what I said back then, which President Obama wants everything done by the book.
There's a phrase From William Shakespeare, for that it's called The Lady Doth Protest Too Much.
You don't write emails reminding people, wink, wink, I told you to do everything by the book, don't you remember?
So yes, it goes back to the White House.
Where is the exact genesis of it?
Who knows?
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Chris, when I entered the White House for about two weeks, I didn't use the phrase deep state.
I thought, A little bit, a little bit, you know, edgy, a little bit fringe.
Then I saw it.
Then I saw the deep state at all the NFC meetings.
Then I saw the SESs, the SISs, the permanent bureaucracy act as if there hadn't been an election.
Literally, they did not care who the president was and whether 64 million Americans voted for him.
And then I found out what they're doing to us, the FBI, I was told after I tried to sequester some people to the White House, I was told after six months, you will not get those personnel because the seventh floor of the Hoover building looks at this administration as quote, the enemy.
So at that point, you know the deep state is real.
Given what you do every single day at Judicial Watch, you, Tom, the whole amazing team, I don't want to provide a false narrative about corruption in D.C.
because, yes, the Democrats with this indictment and everything else are undermining the fabric of the Republic, but this isn't just about Democrats, is it?
I mean, if you look at the GOP machine, there's enough corruption there as well.
There sure as hell is.
I mean, let me tell you.
There's no, nobody's got a monopoly on ethics in DC.
And Washington DC is the only place in the world where the expression ethics waiver makes sense.
And both parties use that, and they both operate that way.
And if you look at the machine, and it really is machine politics, right?
There's a lot of stuff, a very famous, I won't reveal who it is, just because at this point it's moot, it doesn't really matter.
But there was somebody discussing, Tom DeLay as speaker, and they said, well of course he's a crook, but he's our crook.
You know, I can't stand that kind of crap.
It's just, it is infuriating to me.
And so, that's the mentality.
You know, it's like two ten year olds fighting over the Xbox controls, you know what I mean?
They both want their turn to control the game, and now it's my turn, and they're going to do the same lousy rotten stuff that the other one did.
That's what gets us in trouble.
And that's why Trump was a problem, right?
For both sides.
He didn't care.
He wasn't going to play all their stupid little games.
He wasn't interested.
Not only was he not interested, he didn't even know what they were.
So complete outsider.
Very different experience.
Didn't kiss the ring with the GOP establishment.
Right.
He just finished destroying 16 Republican munchkins, right?
To get past the primary.
So these people get up on stage with him.
He destroyed them one after another.
He goes in, he wins the election, the anointed one, Hillary, is kicked to the curb, and here's this guy who's broken every rule, all the conventions, he is the great disruptor, and he's going to come in and he's going to do what he wants to do, and the system, capital T, capital S, and I don't care where you fall in it, you could be Republican, Democrat, the system cannot stand that, and they will do everything they can to try to destroy him, and that's what we saw.
I'm biased because I was inside the building, but let me ask you on the record.
Isn't it surprising, given what you just said, that he achieved as much as he did in those four years?
It's stunning.
It is stunning that he achieved what he did.
There was a page, I think it was, you know, like 49 pages long as a PDF of all the various accomplishments he had, big and small.
And there's some things that I think the left would like you to believe are counterintuitive, that he had major accomplishments in the area of For example, women's empowerment, economic empowerment.
His daughter Ivanka led a lot of the stuff, and there's things about Ivanka that are great and things that are not so great.
But I mean, you have to give him credit where credit where credit is due.
Women, peace, and security, a huge part of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency and their work overseas.
Surprise, surprise, if you've got a developing world, we used to call it third world, we can't say that anymore, developing world country, Where women are involved and actually have a say and can vote and can, you know, have some involvement in society, guess what?
It's a more stable society.
When they're treated like cattle, guess what?
It's a less stable society.
So, I mean, he had advancements, huge... and people would never... Trump?
How would Trump be pro-woman?
Guess what?
He was.
He did more than many did.
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I'm using actual primary sources because I am with a former counterintelligence officer.
He's the head of research and investigation, so I think it is apt.
This is the most recent National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin from just nine days ago from the Department of Homeland Security.
I'm just going to read the opening two sentences to our guest, Chris.
The United States remains in a heightened threat environment, fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories and other forms of, and this is their new acronym, it's DC, you gotta have acronyms, MDM, Mis, Dis, and Mal Information, introduced and or amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors.
These threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction, to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions, to encourage unrest which could potentially inspire acts of violence.
I would guess, Chris Farrell, that you would agree with that assessment, at least when it comes to the mainstream media and a certain political party.
You know, this bulletin is, I mean, it's trite to say things are Orwellian, but the problem is no one, and I ask people this all the time, very few people have actually read 1984.
It's been eliminated from curricula in schools.
This is newspeak.
Not only do they create a new acronym, a new term, misdis and malinformation, MDM, and they have a link to it and they describe it all.
This is an attempt to scare people from thinking.
We've gone beyond scare people from speaking.
You are now being cautioned and frightened not to think certain things.
The wrong think.
That is correct.
And I'll tell you that if you look down, check that bulletin again, look at factor number one in their threats.
We read it.
Factor number one is the proliferation of false or misleading narratives which so discord or undermine public trust in U.S.
government institutions.
I thought about 20 years ago, weren't we told that dissent is the highest form of patriotism, Chris?
That is correct.
But now, if you don't believe and trust in all government institutions, that's threat factor number one.
And you are an MDM criminal.
That is correct.
I'm glad we laugh at this because, you know, the thing that came to me as I was prepping for my Newsmax show, yeah, 1984, I get it.
But this is worse than 1984.
Because in 1984, it was a whole system.
You know, if you didn't, if Winston Smith did not comply, didn't memory hold that unpleasant truth about history he goes to the torture chamber with Big Brother.
What we have today is we have the government saying this is wrong think and then we have free actors in the political sphere like the Democrat Party or in social media at CNN at Facebook who don't have a gun put to their head by a GRU officer They're actually on board!
They're doing it willingly, so isn't this worse than 1984?
In a sense it is, because there's always these sort of useful idiots, or these willing conspirators, or whatever term you want to use for them, but they are actively, aggressively promoting this kind of thing.
And so it's bad enough that we have a government agency generating this kind of garbage and putting it out as a bulletin and these are the factors and this is if you raise questions about the veracity or the accuracy of election results.
Not using the f-word, not saying fraud, but just saying that there were irregularities.
That is an offense.
Or COVID.
If you're Joe Rogan.
Specifically in that bulletin, if you ask questions about COVID and about where it came from or about different treatment protocols, that's an offense according to them.
And so you can't even discuss it anymore.
It's verboten.
Which means the January 6 kangaroo court, kangaroo court, the 700 arrests.
This isn't just some some whim of Nancy Pelosi's.
This is now the executive making sure that they have a weaponized thought crime index under which to measure you.
Correct.
And you will recall that we have sued, Judicial Watch has sued, to obtain all the video from January 6th.
And it's the official position of Nancy Pelosi and her Capitol Police Force, also referred to as the Staatsschutz, right, the state security arm, that three things.
Number one, those videos are not public records.
Number two, there is no public interest in viewing those videos.
And number three, they've claimed sovereign immunity, that they will not subject themselves to being sued in a court of law.
Which is applying to the police officers as well, isn't it?
It is, because it's actually the Capitol Police, or the defendants in this case.
But it's an astounding position for a police force to take, that they are sovereignly immune from even being sued or called in a court on this issue.
And the notion that, okay, we will simultaneously hold these things in our head, Two different things as being true.
Number one, we have to have a January 6th kangaroo court to run around and accuse people and try to get them jailed and all these other crazy behaviors that they're involved in.
And they want to control the narrative of what happened on January 6th.
But then simultaneously, if we ask to see all the video, release everything, get it all out, let everybody look at it, good, bad, and different, see it all.
From people smashing windows to people kind of wandering around looking at paintings and statues.
Whatever happened, happened.
Release it.
No, you can't see it.
So, I mean, which one?
So, what's the possible scenario?
Do you guys have to take that all the way to the Supreme Court?
That is one possible, you know, route that it would go.
Obviously, we don't agree with them.
We'll fight them in court and exercise every legal right we have.
Because we do think, number one, they're public records.
Number two, there is enormous public interest.
Good enough for them to have their little kangaroo commission.
And number three, the American public are owed responsiveness.
They must be accountable to the public.
They must.
They're not above Well, I mean, if a police force isn't accountable to the public, it is a police state at that point.
And the question, the naive, you know, the obvious question that has to be asked is, why else are the cameras there?
Correct.
Are they there to blackmail members of Congress and staffers if they're seen doing the wrong thing?
Well, they're also now recording and documenting who's visiting which congressman when.
And one particular congressman in Texas, Congressman Neal, Had his office entered into, searched, photographed, etc.
My advice to all congressmen is to go get little nanny cams, those little hidden video recorders, and put them in various spots.
And see what the state police, the police state is doing inside your offices.
We're talking to the Director of Research and Investigations at Judicial Watch, Chris Farrell.
I have used on numerous occasions, I can't tell you how many times Chris, a line you shared with me the last time we did this, and we were talking about specifically not, things hadn't gotten as bad as they are right now, and we were talking about the corruption of the DOJ and the FBI specifically for about an hour.
And I said at the end, so what do we do about it?
Can it be salvaged?
And I consider myself to be adequately cynical or living in the real world.
And your response kind of gut punched me.
And I said, this is from a guy who is not a rabble rouser, not hyperbolic, knows his stuff.
And you said, can't be saved, dismantle it, send in the marshals and rebuild it.
Correct.
That still stands, I presume.
It does.
What do we do with the rest of it?
Because if we look at everything from Lois Lerner at the IRS to the Capitol Police Force not releasing tens of thousands of hours of footage, can any elected president, can any Congress do what needs to be done to the hive of corruption that is DC?
Yeah.
And what would it look like?
Yeah, so a couple things.
Here are some quick ideas.
Obviously, stick with disbanding the FBI.
That's absolutely essential.
And we can talk about that later if you want.
Point two, all attorneys within the Department of Justice have to be treated like commission officers in the Department of Defense.
And every three years, they have to rotate.
They've got to move.
They don't necessarily have to move geographically, although that would be a good thing.
But they certainly have to get out of the jobs that they're in.
So there's no concentration of power and authority.
There's no fiefdoms.
Correct.
And you've had some DOJ attorneys who've sat in their particular little division and, you know, been there for 20 years.
That's crazy.
I don't want them there.
I want them moved around.
And if they don't want to do it, there's exciting new possibilities for them in the outside world.
Have at it.
There's all kinds of things you can go do.
Their attorneys, they can hang out a shingle and do whatever they want to do.
They're not going to starve.
It's endless employment for them.
The other thing I would do is I would do what the Federal Republic of Germany did post-World War II.
And that is take all of the various departments and agencies of the federal government and split them up.
Move them all over the country.
So this is my first piece of advice to President Trump.
That all of these departments, just move them out of DC.
Correct.
You know, Department of Education, if you can't get rid of it, put it in, you know, Walkershaw.
Just get it out of here.
Put it in South Dakota.
Yep, exactly correct.
And so divide and break up the federal government geographically.
Because my logic here is only people who really want to work in, you know, the South Dakota Department of Agriculture will work there.
It won't be people who are trying to create little mini-empires in DC.
That is correct.
They can have liaison offices here where they, you know, meet for whatever reason.
Look, the whole world went into, you know, Zoom, Skype mode, whatever.
So great.
Go do that.
And so, yeah, ad goes to South Dakota.
Justice Department goes to Minneapolis.
Pick.
I mean, it does make a difference.
Right.
There should be some place where they can get in and out of.
And you'd think congressmen would like that because it goes to their district.
Exactly right.
Yeah.
So the jobs, funding, Yep.
In Germany, the Bundesgeneralanwalt, which was the German federal prosecutor's office, was down in Karlsruhe, Germany.
And so, I mean, eventually it all went back to Berlin once they unified, but, you know, and so they just split the government up because they did not want a concentration of power, right?
So even Bonn is the capital back in the old days.
It was kind of a mistake, but that's fine.
But we should do the same thing and just move these government agencies and departments away from each other.
That's an obvious one that I think, you know, President Trump could do.
What about the EIC?
What about the intelligence community?
Is it salvageable?
What do we do there?
I mean, you know, God, you know, I love Mike Pompeo, but he was captured by the CIA.
Yeah, you know, that is a tough nut to crack, in part because they're often their own worst enemies.
I still have friends within that world, you know, and the amount of time they spend doing stupid stuff is breathtaking.
And stuff that doesn't serve national security.
Yeah, that's true.
It's not value added.
And they also do a lot of, like, tail chasing, and so every new issue or problem Yeah, they want to create some new task force or strike team or... Interagency task force.
Yeah, and it's just, it's exhausting.
And a very good friend of mine, he's a very sharp guy, it's kind of funny because he started out many moons ago as kind of like a worker bee, but he stuck with it and he's really done tremendous work.
He always yells at these meetings and says, stop it!
Let's just do what it says we're supposed to do, right?
Let's stop creating new this and that.
Do the job on the paper!
Yeah, we already have all the authority we need, all the laws are there, all the regulations.
Let's just do what we're actually supposed to do and stop running in circles.
And so he's counted on to always throw cold water on the latest crazed initiative.
Right.
Any other ideas in terms of changing culture of these entities?
I like you're introducing this military concept of rotations, officer review panels.
What is that?
How else can we change it?
OERs.
Yeah, I mean, those sorts of things actually already exist.
It'd be nice if they actually did them.
It kind of goes back to my friend's comment.
Right.
Something else I would do is, you know, just tell everyone, right off the bat, you got a 10% reduction.
Whatever it is you think you're doing, so that nobody thinks it's severe and it's crazy and it's excessive.
Everybody could take a 10% reduction in whatever it is your budget is, you think you need to do.
And if you say, well, we can't because we can't sacrifice program X. Okay, don't sacrifice.
But I bet you somewhere down, you know, you're ordering too much, too many paper towels, whatever it is, you can find 10% and just slice it out of the budget right off the top.
Last question to those who love America, have served America like you do believe in America, and after the events of 2020 have lost faith.
Have I lost faith?
No.
What do you say to those who have?
Oh, to those who have lost faith.
It's way too of a fatalistic outlook on things, right?
Never pick a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
And all these problems are temporary.
That's good.
And time marches on.
God's got a plan, and I'll tell you, I'll cut to the chase, He wins, right?
Despite all the turmoil, despite all the upset, despite the efforts of dark forces to do horrible things, the victory has already been won.
And we just need to cooperate with that and keep the faith.
It's a great message.
In the meantime, while we wait for our share of that eternal victory, please support Chris and his colleagues.
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