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	Is there any scenario in which the president would select his vice president Kamala Harris for the Supreme Court?
	Again, I'm not going to speak to any considerations, preparations, lists.
	And as we've stated earlier, and you heard the president say, there's a long history of Supreme Court justices determining when they may retire, if they retire, and announcing that.
	And we're going to, that remains the case today.
	Really?
	I would call that a deflection, wouldn't you?
	Welcome, dear friends, to America First with me, Sebastian Gawker, here on the Salem Radio Network.
	It is finally official.
	The White House leaked it before Justice Breyer could make the announcement himself.
	I hope he's angry, but he has confirmed that he's retiring from the Supreme Court during the session this year, which means the incumbent Sleepy Joe has the opportunity to nominate someone to that position.
	Will it be Kamala Harris?
	Well, we'll see.
	She is of the right gender.
	She is of the right skin colour.
	Why is that the case?
	Let's just share with you a story I've just received from one of my followers on Twitter.
	A.E., you know who you are, but let's start by setting the scene.
	There is an individual, a rather mendacious individual, who has never seen a lie he didn't want to spread.
	His name is Representative Jim Clyburn.
	Let's put the stage setting like this.
	Mr. G, why is Biden the president?
	Why was he the nominee for the Democrats?
	Because he polled higher than Kamala Harris and every other Democrat.
	That's it, about three points higher.
	And what was the problem with, oh, the guy who honeymooned in the Soviet Union?
	Bernie?
	Yeah.
	Did they want him to be the nominee?
	No, they hated him.
	And how did Biden actually get the nomination?
	Let me just drop a name here, because we haven't rehearsed any of this, but let me put it like this.
	Majority Whip Jim Clyburn.
	Without him, would Biden be president?
	Nope.
	That's when everything turned around in South Carolina.
	Bingo.
	Thank you.
	See, he just knows.
	He just knows.
	So here's a fascinating story.
	This is from the Daily Mail, of course.
	It's always the Daily Mail.
	There was an event in South Carolina that was witness to the following.
	Biden had performed very, very poorly in the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primaries, and he really needed a boost in South Carolina.
	This is February 2020.
	To get the nomination, he had to have South Carolina.
	Clyburn, previously the head of the Congressional Black Caucus, ...was prepared to endorse Biden.
	And Biden couldn't get the nomination without Clyburn!
	But there was a requirement.
	A requirement that explains everything we are witnessing today.
	Two journalists have written a book in which they cover the events of that South Carolina meeting between Clyburn and Biden.
	And they have the following to report.
	Clyburn's words to Biden at the time of the public event where they both stood on the same stage, quote, Look, this is Clyburn to Biden.
	I told you that I wanted you to say that you were going to name a black woman to the Supreme Court.
	You haven't done it yet.
	You've had a bunch of opportunities, Joe.
	Don't you dare leave this stage without doing it.
	And he did.
	That's why we are where we are today, where the Democrats are again proving their inherent racism.
	If you're white, don't even consider.
	If you are qualified, don't even consider.
	It is what's between your legs, or the absence of something between your legs, and the shade of your dermis, the colour of your skin, that will give you any opportunity to be even considered for the highest court in the land.
	The Democrats were racist during the Civil War.
	They were racists during the civil rights fight.
	And they are racists Today.
	That should anger you.
	Not just if you're white, simply if you want somebody who's qualified.
	But what I'm going to play for you now should make you enraged.
	There is a contractor in Virginia just called MVM.
	By contractor I don't mean they build houses.
	I mean they are one of the Beltway bandits for the government making millions and millions of dollars every single day.
	This organization worked for the CIA in Iraq and they have been hired Not to help logistically with paramilitary operations in, oh I don't know, Syria or elsewhere.
	Or to help Americans escape Afghanistan after Biden surrendered to the Taliban.
	No.
	MVM of Virginia have been hired by the Department of Homeland Security under cover of being army contractors to do what?
	To fly unmarked Boeing jet planes across the nation and land them at airports under cover of dark, shipping illegal aliens across America.
	Last year, the Westchester police
	witnessed one of these unmarked Boeing jumbos landing at the airport they were providing security for and a sergeant went up to the unmarked vehicles the civilian clothed individuals with his body cam on and finally through a Freedom of Information Act we have access to that video and the answers that contractor gives
	On camera... are shocking.
	Cut nine, play cut.
	You don't want to be somewhere where the spotlight is.
	Yeah.
	You want to tell people as down low as possible.
	A lot of this is just down low stuff that we don't tell people.
	Because what we don't want to do is attract attention.
	We don't want the media.
	Yeah.
	Like, we don't even know where we're going when they tell us.
	I get the whole secrecy and all this ****.
	But this is even about my **** experience.
	You know what I mean?
	You know why?
	You know why.
	Yeah, I know, but why?
	Because I'm losing it all.
	That's why.
	I'm hot.
	No, but what's the big secret?
	Everybody knows it's happening.
	You know why?
	Because if it gets out, the government's betraying America.
	It's hard to hear because the jets are running and you're at an airport and it's on a, you know, low quality body cam.
	But here are the things you need to know.
	This is the contractor who is, in the video, he admits, by my orders, I'm not allowed to give you my government ID.
	I'm allowed to show you my driver's license because they don't know you.
	They don't want you to know who I'm really working for.
	He says, we're trying to do this on the down low.
	We don't, quote, want to attract attention, especially the attention of the media.
	When pressed and asked, why is this happening?
	Why are you escorting hundreds of illegal immigrants across America at night in unmarked aircraft?
	Answer, because of who's in office.
	And why do you want to keep it on the down low?
	Biggest honest statement of that video because they don't want you to know that we are betraying America.
	Forget everything else.
	Forget political parties.
	Forget the issue du jour.
	The Supreme Court.
	Inflation.
	This is the real story.
	You are being betrayed.
	By the people in the White House.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	I've been told by my contractor, DHS, I'm not supposed to tell you I work for DHS.
	I'm an army contractor and I'm not allowed to show you my government ID.
	I can only show you my driver's license.
	This is quite literally the existential crisis.
	They are replacing Americans with free thousands of Democrat votes.
	That's all it is.
	Yes.
	And the interesting thing, too, is, I mean, this kind of, the whole Biden-Kleinberg thing, it goes back to what Jeff was saying.
	Biden's trying so hard to just get the base back.
	That's why, as you'll notice, he's completely shelved Build Back Better in favor of, quote, voting rights.
	Yes.
	Because what's the one group they're pandering to the most?
	Totally.
	Totally.
	Yep.
	Kleinberg is this evil son of a bitch, isn't he?
	He is.
	I mean, just evil.
	And the capacity with which he lies, I mean he lies like he breathes.
	And the other thing is too, right after that, when he won South Carolina, remember they kicked, it was either that or like the next week, they kicked everybody else out of the primaries.
	Klobuchar and Buttigieg were true at the same time, and Warren stayed in to siphon away votes from Bernie.
	This is one more reason why if I had to choose alternate timelines, like inevitably, okay, Trump is going to have this election stolen from him, you either have President Biden or President Sanders, I probably would have rather had Bernie at this point.
	I don't... I mean, for one, yeah, they hate Bernie way more than, of course, they hate Biden, but like... Remember when Bernie tried to pander to Black Lives Matter and it didn't work?
	Yes!
	Exactly, because he doesn't care about this race crap.
	He really never did.
	You know, he's always been... No, he's more of a worker's deluxe.
	I'm wondering if the Kamala thing at the Supreme Court is going to happen.
	I don't think that's... I think it's more likely that he picks Obama than Kamala, if I'm being honest.
	Well, he doesn't want that.
	No, of course he doesn't.
	I don't think it's crazy to think Kamala doesn't want to be president now.
	Of course she wants to be president.
	Because of the situation.
	No.
	She's lost it.
	I'm telling mentally.
	Oh yeah, she's afraid.
	That's what I'm saying.
	She's never liked this.
	It reminds me of athletes.
	Very rare they get so screwed up.
	Like catchers all of a sudden they can't throw the ball.
	They lose it.
	They get the yips.
	Completely mentally.
	I would just say that on your conversation there about Bernie, Bernie is closer because it's more it's not like a linear thing in politics it's more like a horseshoe and Bernie's closer to the far right than like
	The like Paul Ryan's John Boehner's and Mitch McConnell's are right like and so if that's why they don't like him because he's more of a populist and so now there are definite disagreements between Bernie and the far right don't get me wrong, but that they're closer in nature and more willing to if Bernie's actually being honest for a moment like and not being the partisan hack that he's basically become later in his career and
	Well, it's the two populisms, right?
	being honest to his true potential.
	Like, you know, him and Trump are a lot closer than saying, - Well, it's the two populism.
	- Bernie and Hillary.
	- Right?
	- Yeah, exactly. - Like a few years ago, Bernie at one point was literally said, open borders, that's a Koch brothers proposal.
	- That's a good impersonation. - Thank you.
	Oh, don't forget we got to get the Trump impersonator on.
	New Jersey.
	New York.
	Isn't it Brooklyn?
	Long Island.
	Okay, 20 seconds.
	We've got Israel here.
	All right.
	Bye.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	You don't say it on this show.
	It's Thursday.
	It's crazy.
	Where's Antoinette?
	We have to thank Antoinette.
	She sent us some lovely gifts.
	We cannot reveal them unless she is on the line.
	We'll get to your calls later in this hour.
	The number is 833-33-GORKA.
	83333 Gawker.
	That's 8333346752.
	That, I have to say, Jeff, the montage, was there the clips that Grant Stinchfield showed of Biden that you texted me about?
	That's the worst I've ever seen.
	Did you see it?
	I did.
	I did.
	I'm going to play it.
	We've got it, right?
	OK, I'm going to play it later.
	It's a minute and a half.
	His meeting yesterday with GM.
	I'm sorry, his brain fell out of his nose or something.
	It is the worst moment I've ever seen.
	We're going to share it with you, but first we've got to talk to our guest.
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	All right.
	I've had my monologue.
	It's time for our first guest of the day, loyal contributor to the show.
	He is the, what is it correctly?
	Is it the Washington Bureau Chief now, Matt Boyle?
	That is correct.
	I love that.
	I love that.
	I want to see your new business card, Washington Bureau Chief with that lovely orange and black Breitbart logo.
	Matt, you've been listening, you've been filling in in the break, talking to us about what's going on.
	Why the reticence?
	Explain to us.
	We've got a slot in the Supreme Court.
	She's the right gender.
	She's the right skin colour.
	Do you think Kamala has a shot?
	I don't think so.
	I mean, the White House seems to have already written her off, and part of the reason is, I think, that here's the deal.
	If they get rid of Kamala, they need Kamala right now, and the reason for that is that if a Senate vote comes down to 50-50 on a true partisan lines right now in a 50-50 Senate, there's 50 Democrats, there's 50 Republicans, Kamala Harris cuts the tie.
	Now, if they move Kamala out of the administration and they put her on the Supreme Court or something else, then what ends up happening is they would need to confirm a new vice president through the U.S.
	Senate to be able to break ties.
	Now, theoretically speaking, the Republican senators now, this would require an enormous amount of backbone from people who don't usually have a good history of doing it.
	Could ban together and stop Biden from confirming a new vice president, and thereby we'd actually have a true 50-50 split Senate, and the Democrats wouldn't really have the majority.
	Hang on, hang on.
	This is interesting.
	Walk us through this scenario.
	Because it's 50-50 split, does that actually mean mechanically, if Mitch, you know, goes full cocaine on us, that they may be incapable of replacing a vice president if they want to?
	If Mitch goes full cocaine Mitch and like does what he did with the Supreme Court picks during the Trump era then yeah like and now look again so the and by the way then that means the entire agenda grinds to a halt.
	It's dead.
	It's dead.
	The only way to get stuff through is if it's truly bipartisan they'd actually have to win over Republican senators to be able to get anything through the Senate in such a scenario hence why they're not willing to give up Kamala just yet right like But at the same time, and I'm not being devil's advocate, I'm just making a statement of fact here Matt, she's a massive liability.
	We were talking with Jeff in the break, you look at her in the last year and she has gone completely wobbly.
	She has lacked the confidence she had prior as a senator, as an attorney general, so she is unpopular, she can't do anything, so keeping her around isn't exactly a great plus either.
	No, she's definitely not a plus for the administration.
	In fact, I've talked to Democrats who believe that she is a significant weight, and they intend to blame her for midterm election losses if and when that day comes, she'll be one of the many people they blame.
	But the point is that they need her.
	Like, they can't get anything done without her.
	So they're stuck.
	They're stuck.
	They're in a weird position, so they can't get rid of her, but she's also an anchor, an albatross around their neck.
	He is.
	So fancy he used the word hence on live radio.
	Washington Bureau Chief of Breitbart.com, Matt Boyce, sending me articles every single day from Peter Schweitz's amazing new book on Chinese corruption and the Bidens.
	We're going to have Peter with us for a whole hour tomorrow.
	You don't want to miss it.
	Okay, Matt, let's really talk about the next few months.
	Breyer is in the White House right now.
	The announcement is official.
	He's going to leave.
	They have to pick a new replacement.
	It's going to be a woman in black because they're so racist.
	What does this mean?
	Is this good or bad for Republicans?
	If we're in a midterm year, is the wrangling over the Senate confirmation of a new associate justice, does this play for the Democrats or the Republicans?
	Who's going to come out of this smelling of roses?
	Both sides are going to try to use it to energize their base.
	However, whenever the discussion is about courts and the issues that come before the courts, like abortion, like immigration, etc., the Republicans generally do better.
	We saw this, for instance, in 2018, when it was a big year for the Democrats electorally, the first midterms under Trump.
	the Democrats took the House in a huge wave.
	But Republicans actually net gained Senate seats.
	Why did that happen?
	Because of the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation fight that was happening.
	So I think that Supreme Court battles are very good for the Republican base.
	However, the Democrats need to be able to say they're doing something this year.
	Let me stop you there.
	Let me stop you there because the roles are reversed.
	It was good for us because it was our nominee who was totally a Boy Scout, come on, being accused of being a serial rapist and, you know, doper of young women, so that was easy for Republicans to say, look, these guys are nuts, they're insane, but when it's their candidate, How does that accrue to our benefit, except with one potential scenario, that they nominate a complete whack job?
	Well, even if they don't nominate a complete whack job, I think you're going to see an issue-based discussion on all of the things that matter to the Republican base and that Republicans are the common sense party of normalcy on, if you will.
	So, it's not going to play out like... I can't see the Republicans engaging in the kind of tactics that the Democrats did.
	To Brett Kavanaugh, that will never happen.
	No.
	No.
	So it won't play out.
	It's not apples to apples.
	It's apples to oranges.
	And so, look, the Democrats need something to be able to say they're going to do.
	Build Back Better is dead.
	So what they're trying to do is they're trying to revive this so-called anti-China bill, which doesn't do anything to fight China.
	Right.
	It just spends hundreds of billions of dollars on research institutions that they passed out of the Senate last year.
	They're trying to push it through the House now, a House version of it.
	They're trying to create this energy behind this thing called the Journalism Competition and Preservation Act in the U.S. Senate, which would create media cartels with big tech companies.
	So they say that it's anti-big tech.
	It's not.
	What it is is it's pro-big media.
	So they're looking for things that they can do.
	I love that.
	They're doing a pro-big media.
	Pro-media, big tech bill, just as we have the Rasmussen poll that says 48% of Americans think the media are the enemy of the people.
	Of course they are, except for Breitbart, except for Newsmax, except for Salem.
	We're talking to Matt Boyle, Washington Bureau Chief for Breitbart.com.
	This is America First. This is America
	First. . . .
	Jordan came out against it and crushed it, and then it kind of stopped.
	But it's being pushed by the big establishment media.
	So there's this group called the News Media Alliance.
	Anyway, it all fits with their narrative that they're trying to do this antitrust stuff.
	But here's the thing.
	The overarching picture is that they're trying to make it look like they're doing a bunch of stuff before the midterm elections so they can point out, we did this, we did that.
	But what is this proposal?
	So what it would do is it would create a collective bargaining carve-out to allow media companies to collectively bargain with big tech companies, supposedly so that big tech companies have to pay them for their content.
	Here's the problem with it, however.
	There's no favored nations clause in the bill, so in other words, what will end up happening is the big New York Times and CNNs of the world and all the rest of the established media We'll go make their own deals with big tech and the rest of us will be screwed.
	So the bright parts of the world, you think they're going to include us in it?
	They don't even consider us journalists.
	So what they'll do is they'll screw us.
	It's very similar to how Major League Baseball has their carve out in collective bargaining rules.
	It's very similar to that.
	They want to create another one of those.
	So a protected territory for their buddies.
	Exactly so and there's a reason why the special interest groups so big by the way Fox News is behind it So Rupert Murdoch is extremely supportive.
	They're huge supporters financially of this group called the News Media Alliance, which is a special interest group that represents a whole bunch of the media.
	So if you go look at their board, their chairman of the board or whatever, their president or whatever the heck the titles are.
	I don't know.
	Off the top of my head is a Fox News person.
	But then there's like New York Times people, USA Today people, like all the rest of the established media are all on this thing.
	And they're heavily lobbying for it.
	And then local media around the country are bamboozling Republicans into supporting this thing.
	So like Ken Buck, totally compromised on this.
	Like, totally compromised.
	And so we did a huge story about it last year, about all the money that's flowing into his campaign from all these different special interests that are pushing him to do it.
	Now, it was dead in the middle of last year.
	Now, just now, today, the Senate Judiciary Committee announced a hearing on the legislation next week.
	So they're going to try to revive it because Bill Backbetter's dead, so they're going to try to make it look like they're doing something.
	Let's talk about that thing you said in the break about they have to switch tactics because Bill Back is dead.
	Yes.
	That's great.
	Good.
	And so that's why the Supreme Court fight, this fight with the JCPA and the other tech bills that they're doing, and then the Schumer-China bill thing.
	So they're trying to do all of those things to try to make it look like they're doing something.
	Incredible.
	Right, stand by, 40 seconds.
	Okay, we've got relief here.
	Biden picking, you know, it has to be a woman of color is such a disgusting thing.
	Oh, yeah, and let's... Where's the Clarence Thomas?
	We have it.
	How long is it?
	It is... Oh, yeah.
	Will you come in with that?
	Thank you.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	This is a circus.
	It's a national disgrace.
	It is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves.
	And it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, you will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. Senate rather than hung from a tree.
	Wow. - Wow.
	We should play that every single day because that is Joe Biden's greatest sin.
	One he has yet to be forgiven for because he hasn't asked for forgiveness.
	The high-tech lynching of Clarence Thomas when he was the chairman of the Senate committee trying to block that man.
	Why?
	Because He's black and a conservative.
	But if you're a woman and a crazy radical and black, that's okay.
	These people have no principles.
	We are back with the Washington Bureau Chief of Breitbart.com, Matt Boyle.
	You mentioned something before you came on that was fascinating with regards to Build Back Better.
	I want to share this article from your colleague, John Nolte.
	The headline says it all.
	Fewer than 1% of Hispanics prefer woke, tarred term Latinx.
	This is from a poll of Hispanic Americans by Echelon Insights.
	Less than 1% of them want to be called Latinx.
	It's failing.
	The left's language is failing.
	But even build back better has failed.
	Correct Matt?
	Yeah, and so this is again why the Democrats are overall trying to restructure or repurpose, or I don't even know what the right word is, you know, reset their stuff going into their second year here of the Biden administration and complete Democrat control in DC.
	They've failed in every respect.
	It's truly remarkable just how badly they've failed.
	They've gotten through the least amount of bills in history, or at least in modern history, of a new president in their first year.
	And they've got the majorities, by the way.
	Wait till the Republicans are in the majority in either or both chambers.
	It's going to slow.
	It's going to grind even down even further.
	Every major crisis that we're facing, we could spend all day on just those.
	But with COVID, Afghanistan, the border, everything else that's going on, the economy, etc., the Democrats have totally failed.
	And I think that the average American, especially the Hispanic community and the black community, are waking up to the fact that Democrats are not the answer.
	So that doesn't mean the Republicans are, by the way.
	Like, the Republicans need a wake-up call and a smack upside the head all the time, right?
	Like, the Republicans are not perfect, but they are not...
	insidious and evil like the democrats are the democrats are insidious and evil and they fail in every respect at least the republicans are there's an opportunity for success like so at least you got a shot if the republicans are in there well if they had a spine right and that's the thing is that the that's what i'm getting at is at least you know if we can force the republicans to actually fight back against these people and to actually do what they said they were going to do Like we saw under Trump.
	Like Trump actually did what he said he was going to do.
	The country got a lot better off because of it, and then look how fast Biden's unraveled all of that.
	So that's the thing, if we get the right Republicans in there, at least the average American worker out there has a shot.
	But the Democrats, you don't have a chance.
	They are going to screw you.
	They are going to hurt you.
	And that's evident by the total failure in their first year.
	And now the Democrats are just doubling and tripling down and trying to find more things that they can do.
	So that's why they're doing this stuff with the tech stuff and the media bills.
	That's why they're doing this stuff with the education spending bill that they frame as an anti-China bill, which really isn't an anti-China bill.
	And I highly recommend talking to Jim Banks about this.
	He's been leading the way and exposing what Schumer and these people are doing on this thing.
	This thing passed the U.S. Senate last year, by the way.
	So hopefully they'll be able to stop it in the House.
	And that's why they're doing this whole Supreme Court fight.
	I mean, pretty clearly the left leaned hard on Breyer to get him to resign and retire because they need this to try to energize their people this year.
	However, I do not think that any of it will work.
	I think that we are going to look back on all of this in this discussion, six to eight to nine to ten months from now, ten months from now when the midterm elections come and go, and see that this was a total failed strategy by the left.
	What they really need to do if they ever want to return to relevancy and fix their horrendous polling numbers is change what it is that they stand for and actually stand for the American worker, which we are very far away from the Democrats doing that, if ever.
	Matt Boyle, stop giving advice to the Democrats on my radio show.
	That is not your job.
	Because if they listen to you, they might actually be even more successful and they don't need to steal elections.
	God bless you for doing what you do.
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	Clears throat
	So now let's counter with some advice that the Republicans would be wise to take, I think, personally.
	I mean, because it's been said the coalition they're trying to build up is on a very fragile house of cards, you know, the whole multicultural thing.
	All they need to do, and I saw Republicans start doing this last time, Right.
	is have targeted ads in Spanish telling Hispanic voters, hey, look how much Biden just panders to African Americans with black justices or a new black holiday like Juneteenth.
	He clearly doesn't care about Hispanics.
	Why would you vote for him or the Democrats?
	And then turn around and do something similar to African Americans and point out, like that footage, hey, they're importing illegal aliens into the country.
	By the way, African Americans suffer more disproportionately from the effects of immigration than any other demographic in the country, which fact check is true.
	If you run ads like that in targeted areas in swing states...
	I need to see the Berenson as much as you can.
	Cut six.
	Cut six.
	It is completely clear now that the vaccines don't really work at all against Omicron.
	In these highly vaccinated and highly boosted countries, rates of infection are incredibly high and rates of serious disease and death are also rising.
	The Israelis are predicting that they're going to have more serious cases than they ever had at the peak last year.
	And the idea that we would solve this with another booster is just off the charts insane.
	I have not said this to you before because I'm pretty careful and I'm pretty careful with the data, but these vaccines, these mRNA vaccines, the mRNA COVID vaccines need to be withdrawn from the market now.
	No one should get them.
	No one should get boosted.
	No one should get double boosted.
	They are a dangerous and ineffective product at this point against Omicron.
	The spike that they make your body make, that you then produce antibodies to, is not the Omicron spike.
	And earlier today, Tony Fauci said, we're not going to give people monoclonal antibody products, the first generation products, because they don't work against the Omicron spike.
	The same logic applies to these mRNA vaccines and giving people boosters.
	Even if in the very short term it knocks down infection rates, there's a boomerang effect, and that's what they're seeing in all these countries.
	We are at a dangerous moment, and these products need to be- Thank you.
	Thank you, Tim.
	Emergency relief here.
	Standing by.
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	All right.
	All right.
	Dr. G is in the house on America First. - Blessed.
	Why is Putin about to invade Ukraine?
	And I guarantee you he's going to invade Ukraine.
	Who's going to stop him?
	Not Joe Biden.
	He's going to invade because of one word.
	Kabul.
	When he saw America run, surrender, when he saw 13 war fighters murdered in a useless attempt to evacuate that nation, he saw that America was weak, that America is run by those who hate America, and now he can make his move.
	Let's never forget those brave 13 soldiers and marines who needlessly lost their lives.
	I owe a debt of gratitude to Phil in Philadelphia for coming on air and saying we need something to physically remind us of their sacrifice.
	And that sends a message to Biden that we will never forget.
	And we've done so in record time.
	Just took a week.
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	3, 3, 4, 6, 7, 5, 2, but God bless Grant Steintree.
	I don't know if it was the Newsmax team or whether it was one of the various clipping services, but this video is why America is in the state it's in.
	This is a montage from one meeting, not the last year, one meeting.
	That Biden held in the White House with GM and Ford.
	And it's all the proof you need that there is no conspiracy theory.
	He is senile.
	A real breakthrough began last year when Mary, Mary Barra, excuse me, I said it again, and Jim, and Jim Farley, of Ford, GM and Ford, and now I'm going to, let's get started with this meeting.
	Thank you, Mr. President, it's an honor to be here.
	You want to go to the Supreme Court, Tom?
	I'm just going to demur on that one, but it's really an honor to be here, thank you for inviting me to this event, and I just want to say that- Come on, guys, let's move this.
	I just, I just wanted to say that, uh, that, uh, I, I think.
	All right.
	Well, thank you.
	Uh, now, uh, all kidding aside, uh, I'd like to, you know, what, uh, but, uh, um, I might point out your, uh, when I went to Dearborn driving that, uh, you know, uh, was up there.
	I don't know, man.
	I think the press thought I was crazy.
	I enjoyed it so much, going up near a new EV factory and that Hummer.
	When it was brand new, the Corvette was 0 to 60 in 5.2 seconds.
	This is about 4.1?
	Actually, the model's up to 0 to 3 seconds.
	Oh!
	16.3 seconds, yeah.
	Okay, I'm looking for a job, Mary.
	Can we put that in the sound machine here?
	I'm looking for a job, Mary.
	I need that.
	I'm just gonna sit.
	I'm gonna just recuse myself.
	I'm gonna ask the gentleman who worked with me to react to that video because it's quite stunning.
	Eric!
	Your response.
	I just can't.
	He really does belong in a retirement home, man.
	Yeah, he should be eating applesauce in a reti... No, he should be in prison eating applesauce, really.
	John, your reaction?
	It's really bad because I can't see the screen.
	I don't know where the cuts were.
	I couldn't tell you.
	His rambling is so mundane and it doesn't actually make any points at any discernible point in the video.
	It's nonsense.
	I couldn't tell where it was cut differently.
	It just sounded like one long mumble to me.
	You're responsible, Mr. G. You texted me last night, are you watching Grant Stinchfield?
	Your reaction?
	My favorite part of it was when he said the guy is from GMN Ford.
	Who do you think works as an executive for GMN Ford?
	But hang on!
	Jill said he's not senile.
	Remember?
	Last week.
	And this is after a long weekend at home where he rested staring out the window in Delaware.
	Yeah, as the Secret Service has told us, for hours.
	Just stares out the window thinking about his favorite new GM Ford vehicle.
	All right, God bless you for sending me that.
	Let's take a call.
	John San Diego on the topic of Putin and Ukraine.
	Okay, Sebastian here.
	The reason Putin can invade Ukraine is because Biden's oil policy No, that's not accurate.
	Ten times is absolutely not accurate.
	import 10 times as much oil as we did when trump no that's not accurate 10 times is absolutely not accurate we're starting to import it but it's not 10 times it was 18 000 barrels a day in 2017 now it's 204 000 barrels no it's stay on the line We'll get Jeff to find... You give him that reference.
	But yes, you're absolutely right that he has now a little bit more money because he's a one-horse town.
	The only thing he has is energy.
	But at the same time, remember this, John.
	His economy is smaller than the size of Spain or Italy, both struggling nations.
	So this is not the superpower that was the Soviet Union.
	The real reason that he can invade Ukraine It's because of Biden.
	It's because we have an administration that has said very clearly to our friends, to our allies, we are not prepared to lead.
	That has said to Iran, JCPOA, Iran deal, absolutely, pallets of cash, let's do it.
	That has said to China, oh, you want To do business with America even more.
	You want to get in bed with Big Tech even more.
	You want to pay off my son like you did with that deal with the Communist Bank, the National Bank of Communist China.
	Absolutely.
	So, John, yes, oil is part of it.
	But at the end of the day, it's because the KGB colonel is running Russia, an individual who said publicly more than once the greatest geopolitical Tragedy of the 20th century was the loss of the Soviet Union.
	Stay on the line.
	I need that reference, John.
	We need to check that out because I don't buy it.
	Ten times, I don't buy it.
	But we'll check because we do have the best audience.
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	I didn't want to say this on the air because this doesn't have a source, but correct me if I'm wrong.
	Wasn't that when Biden mentioned, oh, they let me drive that truck from zero to 60?
	Wasn't that the time that you could clearly see the Secret Service agent in the passenger seat where the real wheel was?
	I'd be surprised if he remembered that.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I remember the story, I don't know if it was the same time.
	Yeah, but I just remember when that video came out, you can see clearly that he is driving, the agent is driving the car.
	Of course they wouldn't let the man drive the car.
	And he was eating ice cream, like perfect imagery representing this entire presidency thus far.
	Totally.
	Alright, is there something I haven't heard?
	We've got lots of cuts left.
	Yeah.
	Fauci, Tucker, or... We haven't played the Tucker one yet.
	Jesse Watters with Blackburn.
	Oh, did you hear?
	What was that guy?
	Lester Holt was talking to one of their White House correspondents.
	Did you hear that on Chris Blunt?
	No.
	And the White House correspondent, Alex something, said, and yes, Biden will be able to nominate the first black justice.
	They did that before, so...
	The End
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	Let's get it for the second hour.
	The audio of Mike Lindell's bank shutting down his accounts.
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	What did you get, John?
	I got some nice lotion for the cold months.
	Very nice.
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	Now, it's rather chilly here in the swamp.
	Eric, what did Antoinette send you?
	A similar body wash and shampoo.
	How civilized.
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	The perfect gift for Mr. G. Antoinette, you're so kind.
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	I don't think so.
	No, we bought the beautiful 15-passenger van, so we get it the beginning of April, and then we also got a smaller little van, but it's all paid for!
	And what are the vans?
	Remind our listeners, what are the vans being used for, Antoinette?
	That's for traveling to the doctor's offices to taking the pregnant women, young women that at his nesting place takes care of.
	So they've got to go to the doctors and do other errands and such.
	So thank you, guys.
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	Thank you for your gift.
	I'm gonna have to... I didn't touch the cigars until we could mention them on the show.
	I think I might have to smoke one tonight.
	God bless you Antoinette.
	And guys, this is why we are here.
	To stick together.
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	Cut.
	Four.
	Yes.
	The small fringe minority of people who are on their way to Ottawa or who are holding unacceptable views that they're expressing do not represent the views of Canadians who have been there for each other, who know that following the science
	And stepping up to protect each other is the best way to continue to ensure our freedoms, our rights, our values as a country.
	Unacceptable views.
	I know.
	Fauci, five.
	With regard to the clinical trials that are being done in children from six months to 24 months and from 24 months through four years, As you probably know, the original data that was done was determined if the doses that were given to those children reached what we call non-inferiority with a more adult or adolescent population.
	And the original data that was put forth It looked like the dose and the regimen for the children who were six months to 24 months worked well, but it turned out that the other dose, namely the other group from 24 months to four years, did not yet reach the level of non-inferiority.
	So the studies are continued.
	It looks like it will be a three-dose regimen.
	Okay, can you find me some B-roll for when we're talking to Dr. Carson?
	Because I want to talk about the homeless situation.
	B-roll of what?
	Like, you know, L.A.
	and, you know, camps and, you know, the homeless camps.
	Will you play me cut three? - Okay.
	Every time something important comes here, we rush out.
	We have 50 more buses that come in and they take as many people out of here as they can.
	You guys keep saying you want to see how it really is down here.
	Why do we keep sending as many people out of here as we can before they get here?
	It's not really showing what it is.
	I'm not exactly sure I suppose, I'm sorry.
	So, in CBC, the whole area back here, before you come down, before anybody comes down, a senator, it doesn't matter, they bus as many people out here as they can to whatever other sector.
	It may appear that people are trying to showcase that everyday country story.
	We know best.
	I know best.
	The commitment remains and we'll keep fighting.
	And let me just say, you can turn your back on me, but I'll never turn my back on you.
	Wow.
	Good.
	You see the date you're appointed.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Good.
	Okay.
	A blank burn cut one?
	Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Gortz.
	They're trying to use this to distract from what is their failed agenda.
	The American people are all concerned with inflation and crime and COVID and CRT and the wokeness and the lockdowns and the mandates in Russia and Ukraine.
	And now they're trying to do this.
	They do think it will gen up their base.
	But it also is going to galvanize conservatives going into the election, especially if Joe Biden does what he has been doing for the district and circuit judges, which is to nominate people that are far to the left.
	They are outside of the American mainstream.
	OK, how's the line?
	Decent.
	One minute.
	Can you give me Julio?
	Yes.
	Hey, how you doing?
	I'm doing good.
	I thought you were going to be in studio.
	I thought you were a swamp creature, Julio.
	Where are you?
	In the free state of Florida.
	Wise man, wise man.
	Okay, good.
	How do I introduce you?
	What's your title?
	Senior writer.
	Senior writer.
	Okay.
	Well, congratulations on the exclusive.
	We're going to play the clip from Fox and then we're going to just jump in, okay?
	Sounds good.
	All right, stand by.
	You want to come in with?
	I'll tee it up, because I've got to do the 1911 thing first.
	Which cut is that we're teeing up?
	The one you played, the Fox one, the audio CBP Cut 3.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	Got it.
	Alrighty.
	Okay, coming in on 1911.
	Yes.
	15 seconds, stand by.
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	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
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	You know, when we prep for the weekend to do the Newsmax show, Mr. G and I sit down.
	We sit down with my Newsmax producer, David, and we, you know, we want to pick the most actual, relevant topics of the day, prep it, write a script, sometimes collect the elements.
	Jeff works overtime on those elements.
	Get the best guests.
	and then um just have the show and it's all very pre-planned this week it's gonna be a lot easier why because it's about my passion which is the second amendment which is guns didn't take a lot of script writing for that one you don't want to miss it we went to shot show we have amazing guests sunday 7 p.m eastern 10 p.m re-air it is the gawker reality check if you have a commie cable provider Don't worry.
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	Let's go to our first guest for the second hour.
	He's a real reporter.
	He's a real journalist.
	He goes out there and finds the truth.
	He has an amazing exclusive.
	He is, of course, Julio Rosas of Townhall.com.
	Julio, welcome back to America First.
	Thanks for having me, Dr. Gorka.
	Alright, so I'm just going to start with this amazing audio that you acquired because you have the best contacts with the Customs and Border Patrol.
	The Secretary of Homeland Security Mayorkas was meeting with officers of CBP.
	And it didn't go well.
	Now, it's hard to hear.
	For our Rumble viewers, we have the transcript from Fox.
	We're going to play at the same time, and then we're going to walk through what this all means.
	So, play cut.
	Every time something important comes here, we rush out.
	We have 50 more buses that come in, and they take as many people out of here as they can.
	You guys keep saying you want to see how it really is down here.
	Why do we keep sending as many people out of here as we can before they get here?
	It's not really showing what it is.
	I'm not exactly sure I follow, sorry.
	The TPC, the whole area back here, before you come down, before anybody comes down, a senator, it doesn't matter, they buzz as many people out of here as they can to whatever other sector.
	It may appear that people are trying to showcase that everyday country boy, we know best.
	I know best.
	The commitment remains and we'll keep fighting.
	And let me just say, you can turn your back on me, but I'll never turn my back on you.
	You did the day you were appointed.
	So for those who are driving, couldn't hear that very well, it's the secretary being asked by CBP, why are we asked to clean up everything and hide the illegals when visitors come from Washington D.C.
	like senators?
	He says, oh, I don't know, I don't understand you.
	And then he is challenged.
	One of the agents says, things are not hunky-dory here.
	They laugh at him when he denies that.
	And perhaps the worst of all, one agent turned his back on this traitorous member of the cabinet, and then my orchestra replies, I will never turn my back on you.
	And then an agent responds, you did the day that you were appointed.
	Julio, congratulations on obtaining that audio.
	Let's start with the basics.
	Are the agents we're listening to, are they extremists?
	Are they non representative of Customs and Border Patrol?
	Actually, they are very representative of the overall feelings to how Border Patrol agents have been experiencing with this border crisis.
	I mean, they're very frustrated, and that's evident because, one, they were venting their frustration towards the Secretary, but then also, two, obviously one was able to record it and give it to me because they want people, they want the rest of the country to know That they are also fed up with how disastrous the Biden administration and the officials in charge have handled the border.
	And so they saw what happened under President Trump and how great, relatively, the border was under him.
	And now in a year's time, it's completely turned for the worse.
	It's not surprising at all that they were unhappy with Secretary Marokos because even though he kind of likes to act like he has nothing to do with the policies that are being implemented, he is ultimately the boss of DHS and he is You're not only a great journalist, a true journalist.
	Follow this man Julio underscore Rosas11 on Twitter.
	That's Julio underscore Rosas11.
	You're a former Marine.
	You've served this nation in uniform.
	Can you just...
	Can you help us understand the sense of what's going on here, that basically we have agents who wear a badge, carry a gun, who've been given a job and they've been basically told to stand down or to escort illegals into this nation.
	That audio is stunning.
	Thank you for letting the world hear it.
	Has there been any response?
	Has Mayorkas' office denied this?
	Have they responded to the fact that his agents are turning their backs to him?
	Any response at all from DHS?
	So, DHS did not respond to my request for a comment.
	However, they did respond to Fox News when they brought up a story of using the audio.
	And his office said that the Secretary always appreciates having candor Conversations with his employees and kind of left it at that.
	They didn't deny that that whole incident took place because obviously it's hard to deny that because the audio is right there.
	And that's all they can say, right?
	Because they know that they're not stupid.
	They know that these policies aren't working.
	They know that this is not sustainable.
	Uh, apparently their, their jobs and their partisan politics are more important than the security of the country.
	And so that's why they're more than willing to kind of carry, uh, carry out the open border policies that the Biden administration wants.
	Uh, so that, that's kind of, that's kind of where we're at right now.
	And, and like I said, this is actually, and actually funny enough, this is the second time, uh, my orcas have been, uh, secretly recorded.
	And that audio being leaked when he's meeting with Border Patrol agents because it happened when he visited Brownsville in the Rio Grande Valley last year.
	But this is more significant because in this audio, he's getting pushback from his agents, from frontline agents.
	And I can tell you that in the many agents that I've encountered and talked with covering all different parts of the border last year and this year, I've yet to meet a single frontline agent that has anything good to say about Biden, Mayorkas, or Border Patrol Chief Ortiz.
	You say it is unsustainable, Julio, but are you seeing any indication from anywhere in this administration that they are prepared to rein back and secure the border?
	No.
	No, not really, no.
	They are kind of Re-implementing the Remain-in-Mexico policy.
	However, they... Well, because the judge told them to.
	Right, right.
	And they're still trying to figure out a way how to get rid of it.
	So, I mean, you can obviously imagine they're not going full speed ahead on re-implementing it.
	And that's just one indicator that, again, they have to be forced to do something that can actually secure the border.
	But even then, they're going to slow walk it.
	And so I don't really think, unfortunately, we're going to see this surge and this current crisis be resolved anytime soon, because even, let's say, Republicans take back control of Congress in both chambers, Most of everything that kind of kick-started this surge came from the executive branch, not the legislative branch.
	The only thing that can potentially help stop it is the House's power of the purse, maybe deny funding for various DHS activities, but then again you've weakened that agency which is supposed to protect all of us.
	In the meantime, thank you, Julio, for your service in and out of uniform.
	He's part of the Salem family.
	He's senior writer at townhall.com.
	Follow him on Twitter at Julio underscore Rosas11.
	That's Julio underscore Rosas11.
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	Yes.
	He is?
	Real Ben Carson.
	Give me a second.
	I'll find him.
	I'll dial him up now.
	Skype channel one.
	The libs on Twitter are complaining about him being cancelled.
	He said... Take my stuff off.
	Take me off or... Who?
	I just... Nobody... Well, what about the fact that they're making a massive story out of... He's the one that started it!
	Hello!
	Mr. Secretary, can you hear us?
	Bongino being cancelled.
	And he said, I'm leaving.
	Yeah.
	Got to mention that.
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	We can hear you and video starting.
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	We've got Israel here.
	Secretary Carson?
	Yes.
	Hey, how are you?
	Welcome back.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	So I need to mention that's your organization, right?
	American Cornerstone?
	Yes.
	Okay, American Cornerstone Institute.
	Excellent.
	Okay, can you put that in the Chiron, Eric?
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	He is a former member of the Trump administration, former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
	He is a neurosurgeon extraordinaire.
	Dr. Ben Carson, Secretary Carson, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you.
	Always good to be with you.
	Appreciate it.
	You are a man of science and a conservative.
	Conservatives have been accused of being science deniers.
	May I ask for your reaction to a very strange statement made by Dr. Anthony Fauci about his role within science?
	Cut seven.
	Anybody who's looking at this carefully realizes that there's a distinct anti-science flavor to this.
	So if they get up and criticize science, nobody's gonna know what they're talking about.
	But if they get up and really aim their bullets at Tony Fauci, well, people could recognize there's a person there, so it's easy to criticize.
	But they're really criticizing science.
	Because I represent science.
	That's dangerous.
	I represent science.
	You've done some remarkable things in your career, separating the first conjoint twins in America.
	You know the art of medicine.
	Have you ever said in that role that I am science and I must not be criticized, Dr. Carson?
	That would take a lot of hubris to do that.
	I've not said that.
	But, you know, the fact of the matter is, it would This would not be nearly the problem that it is if we did in fact acknowledge science, if we would acknowledge something like natural immunity.
	You know, the government kept saying, well, we don't really know how long natural immunity lasts.
	We really don't know how effective it is.
	Well, why not study it and find out?
	That's what science does.
	Look, I'm just a PhD of political science, but my understanding is that medicine, science is the art of questioning.
	It's a methodology.
	It isn't carved in stone.
	Isn't the essence of science to ask questions, Dr. Carlson?
	Of course it is.
	Ask the questions and find out the answers.
	They're not doing that.
	Now, fortunately, on the natural immunity front, Johns Hopkins did do a study, and they did find that these hundreds of patients that they followed still had strong immunity almost two years afterwards, as long as they're following it.
	And at first, they said it'll last for three months, and then after three months were up, it'll last for six months, then eight, then nine, and then probably in 10 years from now, they'll say it'll last for 10 years.
	You know, the fact of the matter is, We've known about the effects of natural immunity for a long time.
	The reason they have not been willing to acknowledge it is tens of millions if not a hundred million people have it and it will blow a hole in their argument that everybody has to be vaccinated and that's why they haven't acknowledged it.
	He's the founder of the American Cornerstone Institute.
	You can follow him right now at realbencarson on Twitter.
	You have been very vocal of late on social media talking about the fate of the next generation of our children.
	I have a long cut here.
	I'm not even going to play it because it's just so disturbing of Dr. Fauci saying that we now have a three-dose vaccine we want to deploy for six-month-olds.
	Isn't this the most pernicious Well, again, it's very non-scientific.
	of the last two years using these vaccines against an age cohort, Dr. Carson, that to all intents and purposes is immune to the mortality effects that has a 0.05% mortality rate.
	How dangerous is the foisting of vaccines on children and infants?
	Well, again, it's very non-scientific.
	You know, in medicine, what we always do is a benefit to risk ratio.
	And if there's a strong benefit, you know, you're willing to take more risks.
	There is no strong benefit here.
	You know, the kids are very well protected if they're healthy.
	Now, if they have some underlying problems, that's a different story.
	And that's one of the reasons that these decisions should be made with the pediatrician and the family, not by some faceless bureaucrat in Washington, D.C.
	It absolutely makes no sense.
	Have you seen in your decades of service in science as a medical professional, as a neurosurgeon, have you ever seen the levels of censorship within the scientific community that we've witnessed in the last two years under COVID?
	No, I've never seen it.
	People are being intimidated.
	They're being threatened.
	You may remember early on when people were talking about hydroxychloroquine, Yes.
	You know, they were being censored.
	And the interesting thing is, of course, if you go to West Africa and you go to the coast, virtually everybody takes hydroxychloroquine or an equivalent because of malaria.
	And they have 94 percent less COVID infections than we do.
	You think that's a coincidence?
	It's one of the first things I noticed very early on when everybody who were lay people were trying to study up on the coronavirus.
	I looked at a global map of infections and I saw that the African continent was almost devoid of serious cases of COVID.
	And I thought, What's going on there?
	And then I realized that it's an over-the-counter drug.
	Almost everybody's taken hydroxy for the last 50 years because of malaria.
	But when you mention this, you're somehow a conspiracy theorist.
	What is the motivation?
	Have you defined a motivation amongst your peers in science, in medicine, to attack therapeutics and push vaccines?
	Why?
	What is it?
	It's because of a very stupid rule that we have that says you cannot get an emergency use authorization if there is another alternative that is potentially effective.
	And that's why hydroxychloroquine and other things, other therapeutics have been pushed aside, have been bad-mouthed.
	And what we really need to be thinking about is changing that rule.
	We need to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
	We need to be able to pursue multiple avenues of therapeutics.
	And right now, we need to be getting those therapeutics out.
	You know, we have PaxLobet and some of the other things that have been proven to be very effective in stopping hospitalizations and in curbing the spread of the disease.
	We're not getting those out.
	It should be a warp speed type urgency to get these things out to people.
	This is one of the key missing pieces of the puzzle.
	I'm so glad you reiterated it because the emergency use authorization was added to these vaccines.
	You're only legally allowed to do that if there's no other existing Medicine that could be used and as such they've painted themselves into a corner and everybody must be denied the truth of those incredible drugs that have been used by Americans for 60, 70 years in some cases.
	We're talking to Dr. Ben Carson, former Secretary for Housing and Urban Development in the Trump administration, founder of the American Cornerstone Institute.
	We'll be back with Secretary Carson after these messages.
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	so so all right uh three three minute a commercial break and then we're straight
	you okay yeah i mean every day we hear these horror stories of people with you know legal prescriptions for therapeutics and having to go to five six different pharmacists because they refuse to actually give them the prescription - Well, And then some of the pharmacists refuse to fill the prescription.
	Right.
	Because they've been indoctrinated as well.
	I can't think of when this has ever happened before.
	And when somebody like a governor who has no medical training just bans a medicine that's been around for 50 years.
	It's pretty amazing.
	And you have to ask yourself, why is this happening?
	What is the point of all this?
	And you can't help but think that some of these politicians enjoy absolute power.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And control.
	And if we allow this to persist, what else will they want to be mandating in the future?
	Right.
	Well, look, here in DC, I'm not vaccinated.
	I've had COVID.
	I took hydroxy.
	You know, I now cannot go to a restaurant and I cannot go to one of the nation's museums.
	Which makes absolutely no sense, because the people who've had all the vaccinations are just as likely to get it as you are.
	Right.
	And are more likely to spread it, because you've had it already, so you're less likely to spread it, because your immune response covers your mucous membranes.
	Right.
	It is the literal denial of science.
	And theirs doesn't.
	And I suspect historians will look back on Yeah, we lost you.
	Yeah, we lost you.
	Let's dial back, Dr. Carson.
	Near future.
	Redialing.
	I just googled what you're talking about with Africa and COVID.
	There's all these news stories from mainstream media.
	Scientists are mystified why COVID's not a disaster in Africa.
	Then BBC said they stopped shaking hands in early February.
	And wearing masks.
	Are you kidding?
	Yes.
	Because I know they're wearing masks in the middle of Africa.
	Did I send you a text now from Laksot?
	Yeah.
	One segment, whenever you can squeeze him in.
	It's still ringing.
	Can you tell his assistant?
	We're trying to dial back.
	Yeah, he's calling up now.
	He's calling back in.
	Okay.
	Hello.
	Sorry, Mr. Secretary.
	I think... Yeah, we're back.
	Thank you.
	Good.
	Lost you for a moment.
	Forty seconds.
	Stand by.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Thirty seconds.
	Yep.
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	I have to remind you I promised you earlier this shocking audio from the senior vice president of the Heartland Financial Bank in Minnesota regarding Mike Lindell's bank accounts.
	Not that the FBI is even sniffing and looking, but what if somebody came in and said, you know what, we are going to subpoena all his account records and this and that and then all of a sudden we make the news so it's more of a reputation risk you wouldn't know this but i i used to bank tom petters and um or i was involved in dealing with mr petters and all of a sudden you know you get a subpoena yeah it's like oh man
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	We are back with Dr. Ben Carson.
	He is the founder of the American Cornerstone Institute.
	You can follow him at realbencarson on Twitter.
	I want to switch gears.
	It's still medicine, I guess, to a certain respect, given the psychiatric aspects of it, but given your former post in the Trump administration, I have to talk to you about what's happening with the homeless situation, not just in California, which is a disaster, has more than 50% of the homeless people in America, but here in the nation's capital, there are 10 cities on the same block as federal buildings that the mayor is just allowing to stay there.
	Is this compassion, Dr. Carson?
	Is this how you deal with people with mental problems?
	No, a large number of those people are either drug addicted or have mental problems.
	And therefore, even in many cases, if you give them a place to stay, they're still going to be out there on the street.
	Also, you know, that's a place where they have access to the drugs.
	What you have to do is not housing first, but you have to do something we call housing first, second, and third.
	Housing first, get them off the street.
	Housing second, figure out why they're on the street in the first place.
	Housing third, fix it.
	That means we've got to deal with their drug addictions.
	And you must realize that most people with drug addictions, if they could push a button and they would not be addicted anymore, they would wear that button out.
	And then we have a lot of people who are mentally ill.
	They can't take care of themselves any more than sometimes a child could.
	We have to have compassion.
	We have to get them into the right kind of counseling and to the kinds of medications that will help stabilize their conditions.
	Just leaving them out there, quite frankly, is quite abusive.
	Yes, and the Supreme Court rulings in the 1970s, Dr. Carson, that stated if somebody isn't actively harming themselves or others, they can't be institutionalized for more than 72 hours.
	Isn't that seeming compassion?
	Isn't that the root cause of all this, that there simply is no background, there is no infrastructure to help these people who clearly need help?
	They clearly need help, and as you've probably noticed in many cases, They have become quite dangerous and inflicted harm and even death on innocent citizens who are just trying to pass by.
	So, yes, we need to do something about that.
	There's no question about it.
	And, you know, mental health issues are significant.
	They're proliferating amongst their children as well.
	They need to be in school.
	They need to have the appropriate types of support.
	Anxiety, depression, suicide.
	Up dramatically.
	Over 40% in 38 children's hospitals in the first three quarters of 2021 versus 2020.
	That's terrible.
	Yeah, that's a function of bad COVID policies.
	We only have a few seconds left.
	You were the federal point person for these issues, but is that the best place to solve them?
	Should these issues be pushed down to the local or municipal level?
	What did you learn in your time in the administration?
	They absolutely need to be on the local level.
	There's no question about that.
	One of the things we instituted was something called Find Shelter.
	You can go to a homeless person, take your phone out, put in a zip code, and it will tell you where they can not only find shelter, where they can get a meal, where they can get clothing, where they can get other types of support.
	Wow.
	Anyplace in the United States.
	You don't hear much about it.
	I'm not sure why.
	What a wonderful, wonderful way to start the Find Shelter app, thanks to people like Dr. Ben Carson.
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	Matt Boyle, what did we start with?
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	Kamala for Supreme Court.
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	I know, but I mean for the title, you know.
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	And then for Ben... The real reason they're pushing vaccines.
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	And the pre-record?
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	Staying on the topic of Covid and vaccines.
	God bless Dr Ben Carson for telling the truth.
	So and coming out with tough statements on children and the vaccination of children.
	On Tucker you had Alex Berenson Who has been a New York Times reporter telling the truth about COVID, making a brave statement for the first time on Talker about the MNR8 vaccines.
	Cut six, play cut.
	It is completely clear now that the vaccines don't really work at all against Omicron.
	In these highly vaccinated and highly boosted countries, rates of infection are incredibly high and rates of serious disease and death are also rising.
	The Israelis are predicting that they're going to have more serious cases than they ever had at the peak last year.
	And the idea that we would solve this with another booster is just off the charts insane.
	I have not said this to you before because I'm pretty careful and I'm pretty careful with the data, but these vaccines, these mRNA vaccines, the mRNA COVID vaccines need to be withdrawn from the market now.
	No one should get them.
	No one should get boosted.
	No one should get double boosted.
	They are a dangerous and ineffective product at this point against Omicron.
	The spike that they make your body make, that you then produce antibodies to, is not the Omicron spike.
	And earlier today, Tony Fauci said, we're not going to give people monoclonal antibody products, the first generation products, because they don't work against the Omicron spike.
	The same logic applies to these mRNA vaccines.
	And giving people boosters, even if in the very short term it knocks down infection rates, there's a boomerang effect.
	And that's what they're seeing in all these countries.
	We are in a dangerous moment and these products need to be withdrawn.
	That's the author of Pandemia, Alex Berenson, who has noted, in countries like Israel, that have an almost 100% vaccination rate, Omicron is skyrocketing.
	Like Chris de Gaulle, my colleague at Salem, sometime guest host of this show, stated when he was hosting America First for me, we simply should not call them vaccines.
	Because a vaccine, originally, If you look at the original definition, until COVID provides permanent or semi-permanent immunity.
	If you need a booster shot every two months, it's not a vaccine.
	But Fauci wants six-month-olds to be injected and boosted.
	Yes, six-month-olds.
	What, as one of our guys here said, what parent allows their six-month-old to be involved in a vaccine trial.
	What, for 50 bucks?
	For 100 bucks?
	This is the little fascist Fauci, Cut 5.
	With regard to the clinical trials that are being done in children from six months to 24 months and from 24 months through four years, as you probably know, the original data that was done was determined if the doses that were given to those children the original data that was done was determined if the doses that were given to those children reached what we call non-inferiority
	And the original data that was put forth, it looked like the dose and the regimen for the children who were six months to 24 months worked well, But it turned out that the other dose, namely the other group, from 24 months to four years, did not yet reach the level of non-inferiority.
	So the studies are continued.
	It looks like it will be a three-dose regimen.
	Six to 24 months.
	Somebody should ask him.
	Does he ever go to public events?
	Just ask Fauci, like Peter Tuzi does about inflation.
	What's the mortality rate for children with COVID in America?
	Does he even know?
	Could he even tell you that it's 0.05%?
	Not 50, not 15, not 1.
	0.05%.
	If he knows, he's hiding it.
	Not 50, not 15, not 1. 0.05%.
	If he knows, he's hiding it.
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	Cut one.
	Yes.
	Ah, Blackburn.
	Yep.
	Will do.
	That Baronson cut, he even sounded a bit shaky saying that.
	He was nervous.
	He was nervous.
	That was bold.
	I think he's totally right.
	Yeah, me too.
	Like, say America, sure enough, Biden, does absolutely nothing, how quickly could Russia take over Ukraine?
	Quickly, because the major cities, the three big cities they need, two of them are very close to the border, so they just do a decapitation move, they could do it within a week.
	God.
	Yeah.
	Alright, coming in with cut one, blackburn after the line.
	Alright.
	Cut one.
	And then I might use, I might use Trudeau if we have time.
	Yeah.
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	They're trying to use this to distract from what is their failed agenda.
	The American people are all concerned with inflation and crime and COVID and CRT and the wokeness and the lockdowns and the mandates in Russia and Ukraine.
	And now they're trying to do this.
	They do think it will gin up their base, but it also is going to galvanize conservatives going into the election, especially if Joe Biden does what he has been doing for the district and circuit judges, which is to nominate people that are far to the left.
	They are outside of the American mainstream.
	She's right.
	Senator Marsha Blackburn representing Tennessee.
	The SCOTUS thing is... Well, it's two things.
	It's Clyburn.
	You gotta make good on the threat.
	There's no way Biden gets to be president without Clyburn's support.
	And he said you better give me a black female SCOTUS nominee.
	So...
	What a wicked man, truly.
	And racist, to boot.
	And on top of that, it is a distraction from the disasters that are occurring across, not just our nation, but across Europe and elsewhere.
	Like Canada!
	We haven't had a call from one of our truckers.
	Guys, where are you?
	We love our truckers, those steel cowboys, just in Trudeau.
	Think that, thinks that you're just, you know, kind of fringe elements that don't do anything for society.
	This is the beta boy running Canada cut for.
	The small fringe minority of people who are on their way to Ottawa or who are holding unacceptable views that they're expressing do not represent
	The views of Canadians who have been there for each other, who know that following the science and stepping up to protect each other is the best way to continue to ensure our freedoms, our rights, our values as a country.
	Canadians who've been there for each other, yeah, because the truckers don't do anything.
	Oh, what about that cut?
	Do we have that cut for that nominee, I asked you, the former governor?
	Yes.
	Okay, we've got it.
	We need a black female Supreme Court Justice.
	We found it.
	This is from our friend Claudia Tenney.
	This should be the nominee.
	As a New Yorker, I am a Muslim.
	As a New Yorker, I am Jewish.
	As a New Yorker, I am black.
	I am gay.
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	Yes, this is America First, and if you're of a certain vintage and hung out in the, well, let's just say over the pond in a certain era, you'll know exactly what that music is.
	It brings a wry smile to our faces.
	To me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, and our very special guest for one-on-one, none other than former Secretary for Veterans Affairs in the Trump administration, Robert Wilkie.
	Welcome in studio.
	Do you know that show, Doctor Who?
	premiered the day Kennedy was assassinated.
	Yes the first black-and-white episode which was shot live live like you're bumping into the you know the furniture aired on the day of the assassination.
	That's right and you look at the biographies of the first three doctors and their military accomplishments.
	Army, Navy, Number two commanded a minesweeper at D-Day.
	Yeah.
	Pertwee, number three, the crew of the HMS Hood.
	Yes.
	And Hartnell, I believe, was a pre-OW.
	I think he was also a sergeant in the Army.
	Yes.
	And until Doctor Who, he was always being cast as the craft sergeant in the Army.
	Okay, we're so delighted to have you in the studio.
	We're going to talk geopolitics, we're going to talk Russia, we're going to talk China, but first, There's a reason I played that music, because we divined very early on that we have a connection.
	I want to talk about your incredible military history before you served this nation as a civilian in the Defense Department and then as Secretary in the Veterans Affairs Department.
	But explain to our listeners, our millions of listeners across the nation, why on earth an American knows so much about British pop culture?
	Well, I was fortunate, and it was fortune that came out of hard times.
	My father was badly, badly wounded in the invasion of Cambodia.
	And the only thing that kept him in the army was the good graces of a great general, Creighton Abrams, who said, no, we're going to overrule the medical board.
	We're going to give this officer three years to recover and then if he can go back to Fort Bragg, we'll send him there.
	And as part of that recovery, he was sent to the United Kingdom, first as liaison officer at the Royal School of Artillery, and then to Aldershot as he got healthier to the 16th para.
	And I was blessed to attend one of the great schools, the Cathedral School in Salisbury, in the Bishop's Palace.
	My study hall was in the room where Handel composed the Messiah.
	Oh my gosh.
	One of the three copies of Magna Carta was something we saw every day when we went to sing in the cathedral.
	Eleanor of Aquitaine was kept in prison by her husband Henry II in what was our rugby field.
	Oh my gosh.
	So the history was just dripping off of the The walls and British popular culture of course animated much of America in the 1960s.
	But what struck me was how real the war was.
	You mean in the minds of the British?
	In the minds of people and also tangibly in that you could go to a city like Bath and look on that beautiful Georgian Crescent and you see pockmarks all over.
	Or Coventry.
	Or Coventry and the cathedral that had been destroyed.
	And we were traveling to Scotland in the summer and stopped in a town near Stoke.
	And the British major who was with us, we were on a bus with British officers and their families, said, Robert, do you see anything unusual about this town?
	No.
	So we're in the town square.
	He said, take a close look.
	What do you see?
	They're only women." He said, right.
	You don't see any men, do you?
	These are the daughters, the wives, the fiancés of men from the local regiment who wiped out at the Somme.
	Oh my gosh.
	All killed.
	And they never left.
	Those women never left that town.
	Our only experience with that is the Civil War, but that was so real to them.
	And you see the price, you see the price of appeasement, you see what it takes to recover from Cataclysmic political mistakes because the price is paid in human beings and to see those women walking in that case 60 years after the war, actually less than 60 years, was something that opened my eyes.
	We are speaking on the anniversary this week of the death of Winston Churchill.
	Right.
	Will you talk to us, because I find this creeps out in our discussions of current national security issues, with your unique experience in the UK across various military bases, with your father's history, your own history growing up around Fort Bragg, How important, and I think of Churchill, a man who represented service to the nation.
	Will you discuss Something that is oft forgotten, it is an intangible, it is a spiritual wisp if you will, but the esprit de corps and the importance of tradition amongst fighting men that you witnessed in the UK back then and that created what we have in Bragg and across the nation which is under threat today.
	It is under threat because that fighting spirit is considered by the left to be indicative of everything that is wrong with the United States.
	A patrimony, the left uses the words toxic masculinity.
	And yet, as your friend Orwell said, we sleep soundly at night because rough men break down doors.
	And the traditions that bound the regimental system in Britain lasted through the ages.
	As a child, to walk into the dining hall at the Artillery School and their murals of Waterloo and a room named after Britain's greatest military strategist of World War II, Alan Brooke, who had been the commandant of the School of Artillery.
	It brings home a continuum of Western sacrifice and Western tradition.
	That is lost today and it's a continuum that actually begins in Jerusalem, goes through Athens to Rome to London and to our country.
	And then Churchill, I'll just say Nixon in probably the greatest compliment anyone has ever given to another called Churchill the largest human being of the 20th century.
	And the savior of the West.
	That's not an exaggeration.
	No.
	The man who rallied Western civilization to save itself from itself.
	And people don't remember how close Britain was to conceding.
	Yeah.
	The King and Chamberlain had a choice.
	They could have gone with Halifax who was the safe choice.
	Lord Halifax.
	He'd gone to all the right schools.
	He was a Cambridge Don.
	Establishment 100% or they could go with the people's choice.
	Who, we must remind everybody, had spent a decade in the wilderness and been treated as a pariah because he warned his fellow Brits of the threat of Adolf Hitler, the jumped-up corporal.
	And to tell you about how our societies have changed, it really was the mainstream British press.
	that started asking the questions in the late 1930s and you would see billboards appear on Piccadilly and on the Strand from the mail, the standard, what price Churchill?
	What price Churchill?
	And of course, the rest is history on May 10th, 1940, the King called for Churchill.
	And you and I have talked about this before, to be around visionaries and to read about them.
	The day that Pearl Harbor is attacked, Lord Mountbatten, who is at that time the head of Special Operations, their version of what we would have the Special Operations Command, I forget what they called it, comes to him and says, Prime Minister, Pearl Harbor has been attacked and Churchill looks up and he says, we've won after all.
	Because he knew that the limitless power of the United States was now engaged.
	And one thing I'd love to remind my fellow Americans of, by the way, his mother was American.
	And I like to say that in my school in Britain, that your greatest man was half an American.
	We talked to Secretary Robert Wilkie, distinguished senior fellow at the Conservative Mothership, the Heritage Foundation.
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	Secretary Wilkie, I just want to talk geopolitics with you, history, British-U.S.
	relations, but I cannot but exploit this opportunity to discuss the incredible I think just record-breaking things you did as Secretary of Veterans Affairs, because I've lived in America for 13 years, I've been a citizen since 2012, and for me, and I think for most, the conventional wisdom was, okay, that's it, VA is broke, unfixable.
	You fixed it.
	Talk to us about the mission you were given by President Trump, how daunting it must have been, and how you were given...
	The President of the United States gave me his total support.
	He said if you have to break glass, break glass.
	But do everything you can to turn this around.
	And we stepped on a lot of toes.
	Can I interrupt you?
	Yeah.
	When you were tapped for that, did you have a sleepless night thinking, this is the Sisyphean task?
	I'm rolling a boulder uphill.
	That's right.
	I'm not a doctor, never played one on television.
	And you know, that was actually the key because I didn't go in thinking, well, I'm going to start sending out medical missives from the 10th floor of the VA building.
	I'm not trained for that.
	My job from President Trump was to turn the ship, not to get into the weeds on medical care.
	So what we did was we put people in place who had military experience.
	In the past, these positions were filled by people who wanted a fancy title on the resume.
	So lifelong bureaucrats?
	Well, no.
	Cheap political appointees.
	Oh, okay.
	They wanted to tick a box.
	Yeah, tick a box.
	And that's a bipartisan comment in many respects, but certainly during Obama-Biden, it rose to a level that was just obscene.
	And that's why you got Waiting times of years but dead veterans in the halls at places like Phoenix.
	President Trump gave me the authority to dismiss people over 8,000 when they said it couldn't be done.
	I walked the post.
	I hit every state and you would be shocked coming from a military background.
	I would arrive in cities as large as San Antonio.
	San Antonio is the 10th largest city in this country.
	And people would look at me and say, you're the first secretary we've ever seen.
	Oh my gosh.
	And that was the key.
	Now, the other part of this was, what was the philosophy?
	Is the institution at the center of a veteran's health or is the veteran the center of the veteran's health?
	And there are only two ways to go.
	If the institution's the most important thing, then you have Obama-Biden.
	If the veteran's the most important thing, then you have Trump.
	Trump-Pence.
	We started sending veterans into the private sector.
	The first six months that we did this before the epidemic took place, of the nine and a half million veterans, three and a half million went into the private sector.
	Wow.
	They got to go get medical care close to their home.
	Instead of waiting a year.
	Instead of waiting.
	And having to travel 50 miles.
	Yes.
	So we, under Donald Trump, VA went from having a 37% approval rating according to CNN under Obama Biden.
	The day Trump left, 91%.
	My gosh.
	91%.
	And we went from dead last or second to last in terms of best places to work in government to number five.
	And we're, we're closing in on, on NASA.
	The other thing, real quick.
	We implemented a program that began, was the brainchild of the great Curtis LeMay.
	Now, how does America's foremost advocate of strategic air power impact VA?
	Quick.
	LeMay's made command second commander of strategic air command.
	The command doesn't work.
	He's got 1200 planes said let's kick the tires.
	Sortie the planes to six targets in Canada.
	Of the 1200 100 get off the ground.
	100 get off the ground.
	Of the 100, only seven make it.
	There was a bloodletting of colonels, lieutenant colonels and several generals.
	And LeMay said, we've got to start over.
	But what he did, he instituted just leadership so that the squadron would meet on Monday.
	Not the pilots, just the pilots, but the maintainers, the food people, the logisticians, the weapons loaders.
	The intel guys.
	And they discuss what, not necessarily what went right the day before, but what went wrong.
	So all hands on what went wrong.
	All hands.
	That gave everyone a say.
	We implemented that at VA down to the custodial level and morale went up.
	And counter to what popular Washington think is, by eliminating those 8,000 people, The folks we wanted to keep and nurture said, yeah, I don't have to carry the load for three guys who aren't carrying the load.
	And morale skyrocketed.
	Uh, and it really, and forget me, I just had great people, great soldiers and airmen, um, to implement these programs and the howls.
	Um, I mean, I was viciously attacked by, uh, the Democrats in Congress, the, the leadership of the, the professional veterans, I call them, uh, who doesn't represent really the, the, the, the rank and file.
	If the rank and file knew what they were doing, then they would.
	But just give you an example of how bad things are now.
	The one piece of veterans legislation the Pelosi House has passed has been legislation to remove Abraham Lincoln's name from the buildings of the Veterans Affairs Department and from our cemeteries.
	Well, he's the best kind of guest, because that was going to be my next question, what's happened in the last year.
	He read my mind.
	It's not Doctor Who, it's Star Trek and it's Vulcan, a mind meld.
	But you've answered the question.
	I wanted to know how bad it has changed in the last year, and that's absolutely shocking.
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	Let me ask something I should have asked way back in the beginning, Secretary Wilkie.
	You have a stunning resume even before you rise to the heights of the DOD and to the cabinet of the Trump administration.
	How do you end up serving in two different services, the Air Force and the Naval Intelligence?
	Well, let me take a step back.
	My military service compared to my ancestors is very modest.
	I mean, my father was a senior officer in the 82nd Airborne Division and an incredibly decorated combat soldier with three purple hearts, I think eight bronze stars.
	And the people he served with were of that ilk.
	I'm just a staff officer.
	And I made a decision early in my life that I wouldn't be in national security unless I could serve in some capacity.
	Because I saw, particularly in the NSC world and the State Department world, national defense being a game played by a Princeton debating society.
	Where they looked at the folks at Fort Bragg as sort of a pin on a map.
	Yeah.
	To be toyed with.
	A tool.
	Yeah.
	And that there was not flesh and blood.
	I made a mistake when I was Assistant Secretary of Defense.
	I was getting out because I thought I was too busy.
	And that's how I went from the Navy.
	I found the Air Force and it's just been very interesting.
	It kept me grounded.
	But it's an unusual career path.
	Two services, two uniforms.
	Yeah, it's not as unusual as you think when you look at the guard side of things.
	Oh, okay.
	People serving in the active forces, then going in the guard.
	Somebody like John Warner, the late chairman of the Armed Services Committee, was a sailor and then he was a Marine.
	So there's still a lot of that.
	Particularly in the younger years of military service.
	I want to go back to one thing that I cherish from my time in Britain.
	Because my father was the senior NATO officer at Lark Hill, the tradition then was that when they would bring important figures from British military to Lark Hill, in this case the American officer would host.
	And there were two visitors to our home and I would sit at the top of the stairs just to listen.
	One was Lieutenant General Sebrian Horrocks, who if any of you have seen the movie or read the book A Bridge Too Far, he's the commander of Guards Armor, the 30 Corps, who has to go up that little road and a very flamboyant figure and to listen to him talk about that, he knew my father's paratrooper pedigree.
	And then the other was a fellow named Sir Richard O'Connor.
	Richard O'Connor was the commander of the British army in the desert.
	He destroyed the Italian army and would have pushed all the way to Benghazi but was captured.
	The one German paratrooper unit that happened to be in this captured him.
	And he eventually escapes.
	He escapes and gets to Switzerland.
	And in the push to Germany, Montgomery has him as his senior corps commander.
	And to listen to him talk about the Italian campaign.
	And I can remember him saying that, you know, one Tommy would be hurting a thousand Italian prisoners.
	And the British, the Tommies called the Italians the gentlemen.
	Here come the gentlemen.
	The gentlemen.
	Because they couldn't wait.
	It reminds me of my childhood as an only child.
	There were three steps down into our dining room and my father would sit at the head of the table and regale our guests, our dinner guests.
	And I would sit at the top of those stairs as a child just watching, not saying anything, just listening to these discussions of dissidents, people who escaped a communist occupation or fascist occupation, and it definitely molds one for life.
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	I've reserved one segment of our discussion to talk about active issues of the day.
	You had the position prior to becoming Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Secretary Wilkie, of being the Undersecretary of Defense for readiness, for personnel and readiness.
	What is your reaction to the state of readiness after 12 months of the Biden regime and the decision to deploy 9,000 warfighters to Europe to stop the Russians?
	Well, it's not going to stop the Russians.
	It is the classic, let's engage in what I call performative diplomacy.
	The state of readiness is not good.
	And I'll focus on the United States Navy.
	The United States Navy continues to shrink.
	We have the smallest Navy since before Ronald Reagan.
	And the argument from the other side is that quantity is more important.
	I mean quality is more important.
	Well there comes a time when quantity overwhelms quality.
	And we are breaking the hulls on our ship.
	Numbers has a quality all of itself.
	Absolutely.
	We went away from what I would call fleet tactics in the Navy.
	We still haven't gotten back to that.
	And I'm very sorry to say this, and it's not meant to be derogatory.
	Our Navy has become essentially a transport service for the United States Marine Corps.
	We've lost our naval air capability for deep strike and reconnaissance, and we need to retool really fast.
	For the Air Force, the bureaucracy has completely muddled the pipeline for pilots.
	It's not an issue of Americans not wanting to fly.
	It's an issue of the Air Force being so bureaucratically sclerotic that they can't get pilots into the Will you explain what is going on?
	Well, they boulderized the training squadrons.
	They decided, well, our senior leaders don't want to command training squadrons.
	And they got rid of a lot of the training billets that the Air Force had.
	So there's not enough training capacity for the pilots who are in the system.
	And that is particularly problematic, given, in my view, that the response to China is going to come from the air or from under the sea.
	And And we need a robust Air Force.
	We need an expanding Air Force, but also an Air Force in space and cyber.
	As for the Army, I fear that the Army's physical readiness standards are continuing to erode, that they are playing the political game.
	to the detriment of national security.
	And I see the erosion of that martial spirit that you described that had been the hallmark of the Anglo-American military tradition.
	Our officers spend too much time, our senior officers spend too much time in Washington.
	Brief history lesson.
	The Goldwater Nichols was passed, I believe, in 1986.
	It was a response to the fiasco in Granada where the paratroopers on Granada could not talk to the ships off the coast.
	The famous story about the young lieutenant having to use his credit card to call Fort Bragg, the Fort Bragg to call the Navy.
	I think the one problematic change that Goldwater Nichols wrote in was it mandated too much time in Washington.
	Yes.
	And not enough time with the troops.
	We need to go back to a couple of things.
	One, a hardcore regimental system where that soldier and that officer is identified with a unit.
	We need to keep people in place on post longer.
	Fort Bragg is the classic example of this where you could have an entire career going from different ends of Ardennes Street to Corps Headquarters to Force Comm Headquarters.
	Right.
	And we need people spending less time pouring martinis at the White House.
	Yeah.
	Just to put a bow on that, there is much to be said for the theory.
	As to why Mike Flynn, my friend and former White House colleague, had to be taken down by the deep state and by those politicized actors, even in uniform, because until he became, this is shocking, until he became the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Mike had never served in Washington, which is remarkable, which meant he was not a hostage To those politicized interests in the deep state.
	And to the SIS, to the SES, he was a threat.
	Well, and I'm not denigrating basic service in Washington, but what I am saying, when that becomes the centerpiece of your military career from the time you were a colonel, you lose your edge and you become hostage to all the emoluments.
	that this town offers.
	You get to go to receptions, you're talking to ambassadors, and you lose touch with the ethos.
	And I can make an argument for British history that the finest officers that Great Britain produced were the officers who manned, in World War II, who manned the Indian Army from slim on down.
	Slim.
	Because they stayed away from Whitehall.
	And if you look at the miracles that those men wrought in that 14th Army.
	There's a fabulous lecture.
	We'll post it on our Twitter feed right now.
	About the the American Ajax pattern the American Ajax and where are those men today?
	It's by, of course, Victor Davis Hanson, a superb lecture.
	You're listening to One on One with me, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump and with cabinet member to the Trump administration, Robert Wilkie, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
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	It's by a fellow named David Reynolds.
	And it's about 900 pages.
	But it is the complete picture of Abraham Lincoln and his culture.
	What made him tick?
	What around him animated his rise?
	How did he overcome a political society where he was the bumpkin?
	Although he wanted you to feel that he was the bumpkin.
	So that's a magnificent work.
	And if you want to read about why I was so adamant in keeping Abraham Lincoln's words, not just for Lincoln but for the power of the words.
	There's been a recent book called Every Drop of Blood, which is about the creation of that speech.
	Let me give you, you often talk about leadership and Obama taking a vote before the operation to get Bin Laden was approved.
	There is a famous story about Lincoln taking a vote.
	And the cabinet consisted of six members.
	And Lincoln said, well, we need to vote.
	There's so much dissension here.
	Six votes nay.
	One vote aye.
	The ayes have it.
	That's superb.
	I think that's called statecraft.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Lincoln was an incredible figure because he could remove himself from himself and look.
	And once you thought he was a bumpkin.
	Oh, one last.
	I'm sorry, one last.
	Written by a Rhodesian, who didn't do as great a service to Ronald Reagan, Edmund Morris.
	But I think the finest biography that I've read in 40 years was The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt.
	I know, because his Reagan work is... No, no.
	But The Rise, not the other two Roosevelt books, but The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt.
	Okay.
	And the power of this individual and his faith in the American nation.
	Forget the progressive side for a minute.
	But I mean, as he got older, I think both Roosevelt's and Wilson believe the Constitution was an inconvenience.
	Yeah.
	I think George Will said that many years ago.
	So I've appropriated it.
	But that is a wonderful picture of America from the 1850s to the moment the Ranger comes up the mountain with a piece of paper and Roosevelt knew McKinley was dead.
	Well, that is a fabulous start to be getting on with.
	I think we have several thousand pages there of things to begin with.
	I've written them all down.
	They will be on my shopping list imminently as soon as we finish the show.
	I just want to, I think my listeners are going to agree, we have to make Secretary Wilkie a regular guest here on America First, and I hope he concurs.
	God bless you, my dear friend.

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