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Dec. 2, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Salem and Charlie Kirk's exclusive interview with Kyle Rittenhouse
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Greetings, dear friends.
I have so much to share with you.
But first, something grim.
This year has seen the highest number of law enforcement officers shot and killed.
Ever.
And there's still a month to go.
The Fraternal Order of Police today revealed that 58 police officers have been gunned down and 314 have been shot this year.
And ambushes have jumped one hundred and twenty six percent.
I don't know how you guys and gals do it.
You put on that badge and that gun.
God bless you.
You are so courageous, so brave.
Thank you.
The insanity has to stop.
Let's talk about fear.
There was an American president who once made these words famous.
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
FDR's words came in the midst of America reeling from the Great Depression.
But their timing was special because they came just weeks before a certain man called Adolf Hitler became the Chancellor of Germany and prepared to unleash his vision of the Third Reich and destruction across Europe and the world.
But that message stood us well.
For the years that followed, as we prepared, and as we reacted to the events of Pearl Harbor, we didn't hide.
We weren't afraid.
As Fauci told us this weekend, prepare for the worst.
No, we didn't.
More than 11 million Americans donned the uniform of the United States and went to war.
And quashed and crushed the existential threat that was Hitler's Third Reich.
Soon enough, within a matter of just three years, the fascist world threat was replaced by the communist one as Stalin erected his Iron Curtain and the threat of global communism was unleashed from Eastern Europe to Asia.
Did we hide under our tables?
Did we fold up in fear?
No, we remembered those words.
It's a spirit that FDR didn't discover.
It has defined Americans.
From the pioneers, through the handful, truly, the fraction of colonists who fought in the Revolutionary War, We understood what courage meant, and we wouldn't allow fear to dominate our lives, even when it came to the dreaded concept of mutually assured thermonuclear destruction.
We didn't hide.
We fought.
And eventually, we would win the Cold War.
On that cold November night in 1989, the wall fell.
And guess what?
It was the communists that ended up on the quote-unquote ash heap of history.
Not America and not her allies.
Then came 9-11, a terrorist attack the likes of which the world had never seen.
Yes, terrorism had been around since the thuggies, since the Hashashin in Persia.
Whenever a minority decrees that they are permitted to use violence against the innocent in the name of some political or ideological objective, there is terrorism.
But on that beautifully sunny Tuesday morning on September 11, 2001, we saw something we'd never seen before.
Innocent modes of mass transit used as weapons of mass destruction.
With nigh on 3,000 people murdered in the space of less than 90 minutes.
Did America collapse?
Did we quiver in our homes?
No, we went to war.
And eventually, the architect of that massacre, Osama bin Laden, and the man who thought he could replace him, the quote-unquote caliph of the Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, were killed by us.
And justice was brought to them.
We didn't cower.
We didn't fold.
We understood the legacy of the founding fathers, the legacy of the pioneers, and the message of FDR, who, by the way, if you're not familiar, actually stole his phrase or reworked it from the author Henry David Thoreau, who originally wrote the following, nothing is so much to be feared as fear.
And he's right.
But what about now?
What about the last two years?
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
As an immigrant to this country who chose this, the greatest nation on God's earth, as my home, I am truly saddened by what I have witnessed.
Asia sent us the coronavirus from Wuhan.
And what was our reaction?
We didn't know.
We didn't understand.
We had to do some research, but most of us didn't.
We trusted the imprecations, the diktats of little fascist hack bureaucrats like Fauci, who told us what?
Well, for the first time in history, we're going to quarantine the healthy.
We're going to lock up people who aren't sick.
We're going to vaccinate you and give you booster shots.
Of experimental treatments.
And we're gonna close down every business.
Oh, except the big ones.
You know, the lobbied.
You know, the Amazons.
No, they can stay open.
But you, your business, has to close.
44 million people unemployed.
And then the worst of all, the most evil of all, is our children.
Not only did they say no school for you, But you have to be masked.
If the school ever opens again, you have to wear a mask, despite the fact that the child's face and the sight of the other child and its parents and the adults teaching it are perhaps the most important thing for its development.
And now we're supposed to inject them?
Because of a disease that, if you're not aged or seriously ill, basically is not a threat to you?
We're supposed to mask and inoculate the youth of America when the mortality rate for them is 0.05?
The fear is out of control.
five?
The fear is out of control.
But there is some good news.
We see not politicians pushing back.
We see average Americans.
We see the mama bears at the school board meetings.
We see brave police officers.
Nurses saying no, using the left's mantra.
My body, my choice.
I'm a sovereign citizen.
I am made in God's image and you do not have sovereignty over me.
How far can we take it?
Is America waking up finally?
I think it is.
But it will only have the desired nationwide effect if you evince courage yourself.
If you demonstrate that you too are a citizen and not a subject, your actions, your resistance to that which is unconstitutional can act as a catalyst for so many others.
Because Thoreau and Roosevelt and our founding fathers were right.
The greatest enemy we have is fear.
And we must not surrender.
I am Sebastian Gawker and this is America First.
Stay on this channel.
Thank you.
The headline is going to be exclusive.
Trump already sold 100,000 copies of his book, 50 times more than Christie's book.
Which book?
Trump's book.
The picture book.
The picture book.
It's called... Oh, the picture book, the coffee table book.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Our journey together.
We have this story here.
How does Chris kill Christie sell less than 3,000 copies?
That's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable, but like also Christie's book is selling for like 20-something dollars.
Trump's book is $75 a copy.
And how is he selling it?
He's not doing it through Amazon, is he?
No, it's himself.
No, Trump has his own website, right?
Let's break that on air.
That's perfect.
So yeah, we're gonna... I think it goes to show that Trump is obviously the dominant leader of the Republican Party.
Oh, man.
Fifty times more than... Forget the Republican Party.
He's a cultural leader.
He's a cultural flipping leader.
Oh, yeah.
That's the real take home.
Yeah.
He's the nominal leader of the American people.
How about that?
I love that.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Alright, we'll talk about... We'll talk...
Let's start with that, because that's a great story.
Then we'll go to Mace, and then we're going to talk about everybody's jumping Kamala's sinking ship.
You got it.
Sounds like a plan.
By the way, Dr. G, I'm going to be in D.C.
next week.
Awesome.
Did you manage to get Harmson for tomorrow?
He doesn't know his schedule.
He's meeting with people.
We're trying today, but he's got a...
He's meeting with someone in Congress today.
Okay.
And is the book actually available?
Is it out or are these pre-orders?
Yeah, it's out.
It's been out for nine days.
And Christie's has been out for seven.
So to be fair, he's had two less days.
What's the book called?
Our Journey Together.
It's 45books.com is the website.
45books.com is the website. 45books.com, okay.
Yep.
It's our friend Sergio.
That's the publisher.
Sergio?
Yeah, you know Sergio Gore, who used to work for Rand?
The name's familiar.
Alright, so we're doing JCN here, but we can do Angel Tree in C.
That's also without him being able to promote her on social media.
Oh, I'll do Angel Tree... Interesting.
I'll do Angel Tree now, and we'll do... Wait, when do you move JC into?
I haven't decided.
Okay.
That'll be fine.
30 seconds.
Yeah, as long as we don't move.
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First guest of the day, and he wants to break some news with us.
He is, let me get this right, Washington Bureau Chief for Breitbart.com.
Matt Boyle, welcome back to America First.
Dodger Gurkha, always a pleasure, love being here.
I can't wait to see you next week.
I can't wait to have you back in the swamp.
So I gotta, you know, gotta show off here with, you know, as an author.
I think my first book was a bestseller within three, four weeks of coming out.
But Chris Christie, so impressive.
Chris Christie has sold 2,200 copies of his book, Boyle.
How good is that?
Well, it's embarrassing, frankly, that Chris Christie can't sell any books.
And by the way, he's only selling them for like 20-something dollars a copy.
Meanwhile, President Trump has his book out, which is Our Journey Together.
It's a photo book, right?
Like a coffee table photo book with a bunch of handwritten captions, too, by Trump.
A massive coffee table picture book, and you've got some breaking news.
President Trump has sold in 9 days 100,000 copies.
More than 100,000 copies.
So he's sold 50 times more books than Chris Christie in only 2 more days than Christie.
Trump's book has been out for 9 days.
Christie's has been out for 7.
Trump has sold 100,000 copies in just nine days.
Okay.
Put that image back on the screen, Eric.
What a fabulous cover design.
It's President Trump getting off Air Force One with the presidential seal there.
It's called Our Journey Together.
Over 100,000 copies sold.
You can order yours at 45books.com.
That's President, you know, 45.
45books.com.
But here's the update.
Here's the update, Matt.
Jeff has told me it's already sold out.
It is, and they're having to do reprints, and that's what Donald Trump Jr.
We have a quote from Donald Trump Jr.
in the article.
He gave us this quote.
He says – comparing it to Christie obviously here.
He says, quote, we sold 2,500 in five minutes, 100,000 in just under 10 days, an unparalleled success.
We were already printing more.
So they're literally having to go back and print more.
They can't keep up with it right now.
So it's pretty funny.
But I think the – look, I'm not here to sell President Trump's books.
No, he's more than capable of doing that.
I think he can do that.
I think he can do that by himself.
I think he's more than capable of doing that.
But I think what this shows you is when you compare this against Christie is Is that President Trump is not just the leader of the Republican Party.
He's really the cultural, spiritual, nominal, political, whatever leader you want to say, really of normal America out here, right?
I mean, President Trump is the leader of people who know that there's something wrong in the swamp in Washington, D.C.
We see the swamp right now and how clogged it is.
It feels like a clogged toilet, right?
Like when you're watching what they're doing on Capitol Hill right now.
And all they want to do is just flush the thing, right?
But like, Trump knows.
Trump is the guy that knows that the swamp is wrong.
And everybody across America knows that the swamp is wrong.
He's their voice.
He's the voice of the average person out there.
And I think that's what this shows.
He's that leader.
Yeah, it's not just a political leader at Cultural One.
100,000 books in a matter of days is truly, truly stunning.
Congratulations to you, President Trump.
OK, let's get to some other stories, political stories explicitly.
Congresswoman Nancy May South Carolina has lost her chief of staff and campaign manager.
You've been writing about this.
Not really a well-known figure.
Is this an important story, Matt?
Yeah, it's important for a number of reasons.
First and foremost, Nancy Mace is one of the establishment Republicans.
She didn't vote for impeachment of Trump, but she voted against what President Trump has wanted several times over the course of this year.
He's gotten to the point where he's publicly called for a primary challenger against her, and he wants to defeat her.
It's really sad to see because Nancy Mace used to be great.
I mean she ran against Lindsey Graham in a primary back in the day in South Carolina.
I remember that's when I first met her in 2014 and it's just sad to see her do this.
She voted with the Democrats on the Bannon subpoena, the contempt subpoena.
Remember that?
Yes.
Uh, so she voted with them on that.
And she's been constantly out there knifing the Republican Party, the conservative movement, and Trump supporters as any chance she gets.
And the latest incident is this whole blowup between Ilhan Omar And Lauren Boebert, which, okay, say what you want to about Lauren Boebert's jokes, and they are what they are, right?
Like, and Lauren Boebert's apologized for him.
But then when she tried to do the classy thing and do a phone call with Ilhan Omar, Ilhan Omar hung up on her, right?
Like, it got nasty.
It was so bad.
Then Nancy Mace is all over TV running to CNN to take shots at Lauren Boebert.
And then Marjorie Taylor Greene fires back, and it turns into a big Twitter spat, and it's dragged out all week.
Rather than the Republicans being focused on the Democrats' radical agenda and that swamp that I was just talking about that's clogged like a toilet.
But Matt, why would a chief of staff and a campaign manager for, oh let's be truthful, a congresswoman nobody's ever heard of outside of South Carolina, why would they resign?
This seems to be indicative of weakness amongst the rhinos.
Yeah, and by the way, so Mara Mellstrom is her name.
I know a lot of staffers on Capitol Hill, I know Mara.
So I think she's a very class act, right?
So I don't know if she necessarily agrees with what the congresswoman has done and so on and so forth.
I've gotten to know her over the past year.
I think a lot of people out there are sensing, and this is not just the first person to leave her office.
Her entire communications team left earlier this year.
There are other people who have left her office.
There's been reports of a toxic workplace in Congresswoman Nancy Mace's office.
The bigger thing here is that I think you're starting to see a groundswell emerging in Charleston, South Carolina, which is where the district is, against her and for somebody else that President Trump would back.
I don't know if Katie Arrington, who was the Republican nominee in 2018 with President Trump's backing, later – she got in a tragic car accident, if you remember that, and that kept her off the campaign trail.
That's why she lost, I think, in 2018 to the Democrat, Joe Cunningham.
Nancy Mace then came back and won the seat in 2018, but Katie Arrington then went and worked in the Trump Pentagon later when she recovered from the car accident.
She may be running again.
I don't know, but there's other people running.
We'll see, but I think that the rhino establishment Republicans are in trouble across the board, and they include – There's one more indication.
Let's find that breaking story right now from Matt Boyle.
Post it, find out more about President Trump's new book.
Back with Matt after these messages.
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I think she's in such big trouble.
I think she's in such big trouble.
I've heard Katie Arrington is considering looking at this.
I hope that she does run because I think Katie Arrington was a really solid candidate and she would have won if it wasn't for that tragic car accident.
But even so, there's other primary challengers already in the race against her.
Ingrid, Centorian is her name.
She's actually a really impressive person.
Flew helicopters for the Army and then for the Border Patrol.
Is running in the race.
I think that Nancy Mace just sees the writing on the wall and she's just going for it.
It's very kinsinger-like.
Yeah, like a female kinsinger, right?
Yeah, it's very kinsinger-like.
I gotta order my copy of the President's book.
You did?
No, I got to.
I completely, you know, dropped off my radar screen.
I knew it was coming out, but then I forgot about it.
Well, you gotta get that.
I gotta get one, too.
So, I gotta order one for my folks, maybe.
I'm gonna be in Mar-a-Lago soon.
Maybe I can pick one up there.
There you go.
Get it signed.
There you go.
Those are also sold out.
The signed copies have sold out as well.
Oh, they had signed ones on the page?
Yeah.
Let me have a look.
Yeah, so the signed ones are like $230.
And the not signed ones are $75.
So it costs three times more than Christie's book and he still sold 50 times as many.
That's nuts.
It's unbelievable.
That's a lot of books.
It is a lot of books.
I went to the wrong one.
I went to 46books.com.
45books.com... Yeah, I don't think there'll be any 46 books.
Not by him anyway.
By the way, let's buy that website and make it redirect to Let's Go Brandon.
Oh yeah, that'd be great.
Let's Go Brandon!
75 bucks.
Chris Christie's autographed books are $30 instead of $24.
instead of 24.
Mine was 35.
Where is this sign?
And they're available.
It's a great looking book.
Are you going to order some for Christmas?
Chris Christie's books?
No.
You should do Chris Christie's menus.
Everything he's eaten all week.
Maybe, yeah, just a picture book for Chris Christie.
Like a bunch of pictures of him on the beach.
Just like, you know.
Pictures of that bridge.
Sports Illustrated swimsuit Chris Christie calendar.
Now you're really ruining my day.
I still think one of the greatest things was there was a moment when Chrissy was on stage with Trump at an event and Trump said something about, like, no more donuts, right, Chris?
Or something like that, like, in front of everybody.
Oh, really?
I'm trying to remember what the context of that was.
He just, oh, whenever I see that guy, it's like... My pill of relief here.
Okay, I'm going to come in with JCN.
I'm going to do JCN, okay.
Because it's going to segue with the story I want Matt to talk about.
Copy that.
If you like that.
All right, about 30 seconds.
All right, Matt's story is up.
Let's post it.
Yeah.
20 seconds.
Standby.
Yep.
Thank you.
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We are back with the Washington Bureau chief for Breitbart.com, none other than Matt Boyle.
Related, this is from Breitbart, this is from your colleague Catherine Hamilton, related to the mandate coming out of the Biden administration.
I got to get you to comment on this, Matt.
Exclusive, tool to enforce Orwellian rules, 80 House Republicans helped pass a bill to fund a federal vaccination database on the Internet.
On Tuesday, 80 Republicans voted with the Democrats to pass the Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act, which if passed by the Senate and signed into law, would create a federal vaccination database.
Matt, are these Republicans insane?
Yes.
So, like, I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, this is absolutely unbelievable.
There's a reason why we did this as our lead story yesterday.
We were just shocked learning this.
We're digging more and more into it to try to figure out what the heck these people just did.
But AT!
AT!
80.
I know.
It's mind-boggling to me at this stage why anyone who calls themselves a Republican would ever vote for anything that the left and the Democrats are championing.
At this stage, you're either with us or you're on the other side.
It's really that simple.
Frankly, these people need to be exposed.
They need to be shamed.
We need to hold them accountable.
This is unbelievable.
People should be furious with the establishment Republicans.
I am.
That's why we're working on it around the clock, right?
We're calling out all these people, whether it be Mace, whether it be these 80 Republicans, whether it be the 13 that voted for the Quote-unquote infrastructure bill, which really isn't infrastructure.
It's like 10% infrastructure and the rest of it's leftist nonsense.
Whether it be the ones who voted for impeachment, whether it be the ones who voted for the Bannon subpoena, whether it be... Whatever it is, why are they enabling the other side?
The other side is out for blood.
They're trying to kill us.
They're trying to stop us.
They're trying to destroy us.
They want us all homeless, out of work, and destroyed, and subservient to the government.
Why are we giving in to them on anything?
It doesn't make any sense.
So have you or Catherine identified any possible scenario where they promised something?
Were they tricked?
Is there any possible rationale you've identified for 80 Republicans voting for a federal vaccine database?
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
So we're still looking into it.
And frankly, I'm not I'm not sure I know that our reporters are working on follow up stories to this after we first learned about this.
And by the way, that story quotes several of the conservative members like Byron Donalds, Mary Miller, Right?
Like, all of these conservative members who were speaking out against this, and nobody reported on this in the lead up to this vote, by the way.
Like, we didn't even know.
Like, I mean, that's what's so sad about this, is that Breitbart's the only publication, really, that's got reporters up there on Capitol Hill that are looking into this stuff.
Like, the establishment media isn't writing about it.
Where's the New York Times story?
Where's the Washington Post?
Where's Politico?
And frankly, where are the rest of the conservative outlets?
Where are the supposedly Fox News, right?
That's why you are Breitbart.com.
Last minute we have with you Matt, Mitch McConnell saying we don't need a government shutdown and others saying well a shutdown would put a real spike in the vaccine mandate.
Is Mitch just being Mitch here Matt?
I think he's a total loser.
I think that Joe Manchin came out and said that he's open to shutting down, defunding the vaccine mandates.
Make Joe Manchin vote one way or another, Ron.
After Joe Manchin said that, there's no excuse for any Republican to cave.
Now's the time.
They've got an opportunity here to really put a dagger in this thing.
Yes, the courts are shutting it down, and that's a good thing.
But don't rely on just the cords.
Use every tool available to stop these people because they're bad, they're evil, they're nasty, and they need to be fought, and they need to be stopped.
Matt Boyle, he's on fire today.
I can't wait until he's in the studio next week.
Safe travels to you, Matt.
Superb coverage.
The article is up on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
God bless you, Matt.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Alright.
I'll text.
Did you give him a time or no?
I didn't, no.
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Okay, and titles!
Um, 1A.
The worst year for police, uh, ever.
Uh-huh.
Oil.
Hmm.
President Trump's book, um... Crushes Christie's?
Uh, Crushes Christie's, yeah, that's good.
Uh, and uh, the professor.
Oh, the professor.
Can we do what Gingrich did again?
Yep.
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Just loving, again, the mainstream media coverage of individual justices like Kavanaugh and Barrett's opinions on abortion seem to have changed for their confirmation.
I'm like, yeah, no kidding.
All right.
Give me some good...
What am I doing here?
Israel?
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Fauci should go to prison for five years for lying to Congress.
They've prosecuted other people.
They've selectively gone after Republicans.
He's talking about Fauci, saying Fauci should get five years in prison for lying to Congress.
he should be prosecuted for lying.
But at the very least, he should be taken out of his position because I think he costs people lives through misinformation.
Every time he tells people, oh, wear a cloth mask, he's actually endangering people.
If you're around someone with COVID, you don't want to wear a cloth mask because they don't work.
He's talking about Fauci, saying Fauci should get five years in prison for lying to Congress.
Here's the bigger question.
I think, did you catch Alex Berenson yesterday? - Okay.
I should have asked him this question.
Maybe, maybe we can do it to Phil Kirpin.
How many people have died because they were denied hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin?
I know, just through my circle of friends and colleagues, numerous people whose pharmacists denied them legal prescriptions.
I know somebody whose doctor had to say they're suffering from scabies before they were allowed to be prescribed ivermectin.
That's insanity!
How many thousands or how many tens or hundreds of thousands of people died because they didn't or weren't allowed to take therapeutics early enough To stop COVID truly affecting them.
Maybe some brave person will get us some figures on that.
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Alec Baldwin gave his interview.
He denied pulling the trigger, which is weird because a gun cannot fire unless the trigger is pulled.
This isn't aliens with, you know, auto machine guns with remote control.
It's a single-action firearm that needs you to cock the hammer and pull the trigger.
But I guess Alec Baldwin is just denying the laws of physics cut for.
It wasn't in the script for the trigger to be pulled.
Well, the trigger wasn't pulled.
I didn't pull the trigger.
So you never pulled the trigger?
No, no, no.
I would never point a gun at anyone and pull a trigger at them.
Never.
What did you think happened?
How did a real bullet get on that set?
I have no idea.
Someone put a live bullet in a gun.
A bullet that wasn't even supposed to be on the property.
He doesn't look, hey, Jeff, he doesn't look good, does he?
He looks terrible in that picture.
I've never seen, I mean, he's got those kind of Mark Milley bags under his eyes.
That's the first thing I noticed.
And why is George Stephanopoulos, is his name Stephanopoulos?
Why is he smiling when he says, how did a live bullet get on your production?
Well, why would you even ask that about did you pull the trigger?
Well, so that he can deny it.
Yeah, exactly, but it was all pre-planned.
All right, so let's go back to our initial predictions.
Does he walk away from this?
Criminally or civil case?
Ooh, let's start with criminal, because that's what's going to be first.
More than likely.
Wow.
And then, if he gets sued?
Oh, he's getting sued.
And he'll settle out of court.
He'll settle out of court.
Drives me insane.
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This isn't like Aliens.
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They mostly come out at night.
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Is there just going to be another bug hunt?
One of the greatest comebacks in cinema history, let's be honest.
Oh, man.
Did you ever get confused from that?
No, did you?
One of the greatest comebacks in cinema history, let's be honest.
Fabulous.
Such great writing.
I might have to watch that, K.
Katie's traveling tonight.
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That's a question for Jeff.
Jeff?
We already played Baldwin.
Nancy going Biden?
Yeah, or Pisacki blaming on the pandemic diluting.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, Biden.
Truck, driving a truck again?
Yeah, because he says he had a license, actually.
That's cut a lot.
He had a CDL.
Okay, fine.
He did it for only a summer, though.
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He's done it again.
The senile old man in the White House is lying about, well, it's not, it's not corn pop.
It's his, um, prior career.
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I used to drive a tractor-trailer.
Oh, awesome.
And so I'm a little bit about driving big trucks.
No, that's great.
But, um, anyway, it's, uh, I only did it for part of a summer.
Okay.
But I got my license.
So he got his commercial driver's license because he worked for part of a summit.
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Why would you loot a Louis Vuitton luxury store?
Jen Psaki gives us the answer.
Cut seven.
So when a huge group of criminals organizes themselves and they want to go loot a store, a CVS, a Nordstrom, a Home Depot, until the shelves are clean, you think that's because of the pandemic?
I think a root cause in a lot of communities is the pandemic, yes.
What do you, I mean, what do you, how do you respond to that?
Because, what, do people eat the luggage?
Do they eat the electronic equipment?
What has the pandemic got to do with organized looting?
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There's trouble in paradise!
We're going to get to your calls momentarily.
Yes, in the A Block, because we can.
But first, what is that phrase about rats in a sinking ship?
Vice President Cackling Kamala Harris's spokeswoman, Simone Sanders, is leaving the White House following issues With communications.
Isn't that just vague?
Issues with communications.
This is from our buddies at justthenews.com.
Oh, this is America First.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
I'm supposed to do that, I think.
This is Madeleine Hubbard.
Sanders' departure makes her the third high-level staffer to leave the White House in less than two weeks.
The Vice President's Communications Director Ashley Etienne announced her departure November 18th, and the next day White House Communications Chief Emma Riley, wow, resigned and joined the Department of Labor.
Why is this?
Well, perhaps it has something to do with America.
The majority of Americans say President Joe Biden, this is from the Daily Caller Anders Hagstrom, The majority of Americans say President Joe Biden is to blame for how divided America has become.
It's pretty impressive.
I mean, in 11 months, it's pretty good going, according to a poll from Trafalgar and the Convention of States.
A total of 50, nobody, nobody gets 54% for anything.
In politics.
I mean, look at the figures.
54.2% of those polled said Biden holds responsibility for the current division in US politics.
39% saying he's very responsible.
But that's not the whole picture.
I'm sorry, I'm just giving you a data dump here, but it's important stuff.
This is from the Postmillennial.
This is Hannah Nightingale.
Another Trafalgar poll has revealed that Joe Biden's approval rating in November, we're in December now, right guys?
guys, we said this just literally a couple of days ago, has fallen to 36.3%.
It took Carter four years.
Four years.
This senile old git has done it in 11 months.
Let's continue with the Biden clan.
We're going to have, I do believe, Miranda Devine on next week to talk about her new book, The Laptop from Hell.
Here's a little extract that the Postmillennial, again, is publishing.
Hunter Biden has a therapist.
Could you imagine being Hunter Biden's therapist?
Oh my.
And in the book, Miranda, thanks to what Hunter Biden left on that laptop, has accessed the text messages between the cokehead, crackhead, Hunter Biden and his therapist, Keith Abloh.
And this is the conversation.
You know, they make fun of conservatives who make fun of Biden's mental capacity.
Well, here's the inside story.
The conversation involved a discussion about Democrat presidential candidates.
But soon the texting turned to the subject of Hunter's father, Joe Biden.
The psychiatrist texted the following.
Your dad is the answer.
Any man who can triumph over dementia is a giant.
Think of what he could do for our nation's needed recovery.
So he's got dementia, according to the psychiatrist.
What is the loving son's response?
You're such an a-hole, replied Hunter.
But that made me laugh out loud.
So Hunter Biden is laughing at the dementia joke about his father that his psychiatrist is making.
The psychiatrist texted back the following.
Perhaps he can help us remember all we intended to be as a people, since now he can remember his address!
Hunter replied, My father doesn't need to know where he lives, because that's the only thing the Secret Service gets right at least 75% of the time.
What a charming chap you are, Hunter.
delightful but at least we now have it from the horse's mouth he is senile according to hunter his son and hunter's psychiatrist but hey you won't see that story in the mainstream media let's go to your calls the numbers 83333 gorka that's 833-334-6752 let's stay on the topic of the white house and the propagandist in chief jen saki brian from cleveland welcome to america first hey dr gorka always an honor
i was telling your screener there you know peppermint patty she's not She's actually probably pretty highly intelligent.
She thinks you're stupid.
You know what I mean?
Some of the ways she delivers stuff.
I think she fell off the stupid tree and hit a lot of branches, honestly.
It's possible.
It just seems too weird.
Hang on, we're losing you there.
It seems to what, Brian?
To Jack.
Oh, try and call us back, because we're having difficulty catching your theory there, and I do want to hear it.
Let's go to Jackie in California, who wants to stay on the topic of Jen Psaki.
Oh, Dr. Gorka, good to talk to you today.
I'll tell you the truth about Jen Psaki.
You know, she needs a t-shirt.
She needs a pisaki, turn back pisaki, your pants are on fire t-shirt.
You mean circle back, circle back psaki?
Circle back psaki needs a t-shirt because she lies, lies, lies through her teeth.
Now, I see her condescending ways As a woman to woman watching her, she looks down, she has that, it's sort of in jest and she's just saying it, but it's all lies, it's all the agenda, the things she has to And no questions taken, she gets off.
Yeah, she is very, very condescending, especially to poor old Peter Doocy.
But if we had a t-shirt of her with her pants on fire, you know, the left would say, ooh, you're encouraging violence.
But, you know, I do agree.
I think she is not only condescending, but stupid.
Thank you, Jackie.
Let's go to Ken in Arizona, line two.
Welcome, Ken.
Hi, Sebastian.
It's been about a year since I talked to you.
The reason I called was The best explanation about the vaccine, I was having trouble understanding what it does.
George Nori is a coast-to-coast... Oh, no, no, stop it, stop it, stop it.
George Nori, the aliens guy, come on.
Seriously, don't come on my show to talk about aliens.
He's an arch-conspiracy theorist, come on.
Seriously, you're gonna cite him as a source?
No, I'm going to cite a virologist that was on his show.
He released the information about the Wuhan lab two weeks before it hit the media.
Who?
What's the name of that person?
Dell Big Tree.
Do you know him?
No, this guy that allegedly knew two weeks before.
What's his name?
George Norrie was the one who released the information about the Wuhan lab two weeks before it hit the media.
No, no, no.
You said he interviewed a virologist who knew before anybody else?
Roche, Gert, Vanden.
Now, this is the way it was explained to me.
He said, this vaccine targets a specific mutation of the virus, and it blinds your immune system to everything else, and it's causing mutations faster than they normally happen.
What they're concerned about, according to what they were saying last night, is it could cause a world pandemic that our bodies will not recognize, and it could kill a lot of people.
Yeah, all I know, I'll look into this name, I don't go to Nori for, you know, news breaking stories, but what I do know about, and all the vaccines are different, right?
They're different in the methodology.
Two of them are old school, one of them is new, but the new one does create a cytokine storm, allegedly, In the system, which can debilitate people, but the idea that it's going to kill millions, I'd like to see the facts there, but we will look into it.
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This, you said, was, uh... Israel.
I have a different one here.
No, I changed it to Israel.
Okay, so Israel here.
Mm-hmm.
And then next one is JCN.
Yep.
And then... And then... President Bush.
President Bush, indeed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You are right.
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Okay.
If you made a Jen Psaki shirt, you'd have to make it some sort of orange.
I'm not sure that would be a great seller, what do you think?
No, no, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't want to wear a shirt with Jen Psaki on it.
Right, I know.
It'd be a good hunting shirt, though.
If you're working on the side of the road.
Is that a threat of violence, John Jr.?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Just to be bright orange, like it'd have to be.
She won't be there that much longer, either.
No.
Psaki?
They usually only stick around about a year.
Who would replace her then?
The girl who filled in?
The deputy.
The lesbian.
Who would want that job?
I thought Kamala was jarring for that spot.
What?
The press secretary?
Press secretary.
Oh, goodness.
Remember, they almost picked Simone Sanders for press secretary.
They say that's another reason she may have left.
She always felt kind of burned by not getting picked to be press sec.
Who did?
Simone Sanders.
She was lobbying really hard to be press secretary.
But then it went to Saki and she was obviously quite... The bald woman wanted to be press secretary?
Oh yeah!
Absolutely.
Oh my gosh.
She's not bald.
Is she?
It's hard to tell sometimes, honestly.
I just... I... I... It might just be her hairstyle.
It's like really slicked back and you can just never tell.
It's rich though with Hunter talking about dementia.
Unbelievable.
Incredible.
And we're making jokes about it.
That was about Kennedy, Biden, too.
Right.
So we can only, you know, assume he's gone uphill from there.
I'll put you on hold.
Just remember, if he talks in the break, we're live on air.
All right, I'll bring him up real quick.
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Hey, Seth, how's it going?
Good, good.
Are you traveling?
Um, no, I'm just still working on my video set up over in my, uh, in my new place, uh, that I just found today, but all that's sorted.
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What are the galactic overlords of social media doing?
None better to answer than the man who investigates big tech for Breitbart.com.
He is the author of Deleted.
Welcome back to America First, Alan Bukhari.
I said good to be on.
Let's start with the first big story.
Rasputin is on his way out.
He's stepping down.
Jack Dorsey's handing over the reins of Twitter.
But we are going from the frying pan into the fire.
Tell us a little bit about this new head of Twitter, Parag Agrawal.
Yeah, so I have a rule whenever a CEO leaves one of these social media accounts.
However bad they were, the replacement is probably going to be worse.
And that seems to be the case in the case of Parag Agrawal.
Some of his past statements emerged shortly after the news broke.
He said back in, how long ago was it?
2010, so a long time ago, before woke racism was even fashionable, we see a tweet of him approvingly quoting the Daily Show, saying, why should I distinguish between white people and racists?
So he thinks that white people are all racists?
Well, he was certainly quoting someone who said that.
And he wasn't quoting it critically.
He seemed to be quoting it approvingly.
More recently, he said that before being CEO, he was the CTA of Twitter, which was also a very similar role at the company.
And he told the MIT Technology Review last year that, you know, this is his quote, our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation.
And who defines what healthy is, Alan?
Yeah, it's one of these Orwellian terms that Twitter has invented to give themselves an excuse to censor without looking like the bad guys.
They're just trying to make your conversation healthier.
And he goes on to say, you know, the focus is less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the minds have changed.
Incredible.
Your book is hashtag deleted big tech battle big text battle to raise the Trump movement and steal the election.
But you have a new header on your Twitter account.
It's President Trump holding up an executive order and written on the executive orders.
Anime is now illegal.
Will you explain to us soon?
As soon as Dorsey made his, and we read the statement, it was a very weird statement, as soon as he made his announcement about stepping down, Twitter decided to change its policies on images and memes.
Can you explain what they've done and how on earth they're going to actually police it?
Yes, so Dave, on the same day that the new CEO came in to announce this rule that you can't post private photos without the consent of the person in the photograph, which sounds like a... on the face of it, it doesn't sound like a bad policy.
You know, you don't want... so if I have private photos, I wouldn't want someone sharing them on the Internet all over the place without my consent.
The Internet has destroyed privacy to a large degree, but Behind the rule are all sorts of caveats about what sort of photos can and can't be used.
And importantly, I reached out to Twitter and I asked them, is this going to apply to photos that are already in the public domain?
Such as, for example, mug shots, which Andy Ngo, for example, uses very often to hold the radical extremist Antifa movement to account.
And Twitter wouldn't give me a clear answer on that.
Um, we know that when the left wants to dock someone, when they want to violate someone's privacy, they use the mainstream media to do that.
You know, the CNN, the Daily Beast, all of these companies have a track record of exposing private citizens and using their massive platforms to do so.
Just recently, we sort of tried to expose jurors in the Written House, allegedly.
So, you know, the left has the mainstream media already to protect people's privacy.
So I expect the people who will bear the brunt of enforcement of this new rule will be people like Andy Ngo, who share mugshots of Antifa, people who share James O'Keefe's videos, Koji Garrett has videos.
I think Twitter will pick and choose, as it does with all of its rules, it's going to pick and choose who's going to get banned for them and how they're going to enforce it.
Well, first things first, let's talk about the practicalities.
How on earth are they going to police this?
How does a user, the millions and millions of users, how do they prove that they have somebody's permission to use the image?
Are we going to be submitting written permission statements to Palo Alto?
Yeah, they haven't answered that question.
All they've said is that to take down a photo, if someone in the photo requested that it gets taken down, and you don't have that position on Twitter, that's the way enforcement will work.
The person in the photo reports it.
It has to be the person in the photo.
So not just anyone can report it, but they certainly haven't explained how the person posting the photo will receive permission to do so.
And some have said this is merely an attempt to level the playing field or put a thumb on the scale because the left doesn't know how to meme.
And for example, you know, those famous memes of the leftist screaming at the moon or the, you know, the pink pussy hat wearing, you know, famous meme photographs.
The reason they're doing this is to make the right's meme warfare impossible.
Do you think that's the real motivation, Alan?
I think that's a big part of it.
I think it's also trying to stop more things.
They've already banned Project Veritas.
They banned them all together, but I think they also want to prevent the virality of conservative journalism as well, which often relies on undercover footage to expose malpractice inside big organizations.
And they've already indicated, if you read their statement, they've already indicated that they're going to enforce this in a biased way, because they say, I'm quoting Twitter here, the misuse of media to harass, reveal the identities of private individuals disproportionately impacts women, activists, dissidents, reveal the identities of private individuals disproportionately impacts women, activists, dissidents, and members of minority Obviously they have no evidence for that whatsoever.
Dissidence?
What is this?
Is this Poland under martial law?
What absurdity.
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I think when they, you know, on like general questions they don't mind answering, like for example this, you know, asking to clarify the rule that a blog post had already published, they'll respond on that.
When they genuinely make a mistake, when they mistakenly suspend someone, they'll respond.
But sometimes they'll just, sometimes they'll just ignore me.
I'm currently, I was looking into the verification system lately and I've We've been waiting days for a response, because I think they don't really want to give any details on verification and how that's handled.
What was the question you asked?
Maybe they're just taking a long time.
Just about why they hadn't verified some conservative journalists.
And they just stalled you?
Well, I got one reply saying they're looking into it, but that was quite a while ago, so we'll see what happens.
Speaking of Rumble, I heard they're going public soon.
I just got a message about that.
I'm going to ask you about that.
Is there a date for that?
Today.
It happened today.
The announcement is... No, no, but when are they going public?
It's trading.
It's trading already?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
What's the value now?
Do you know?
It went from like $1 to $14.
Now it's around $10.
Incredible.
Wow.
Exciting.
There's a market.
It is a market.
I love that disproportionately effect, because you can just throw that anywhere.
Yeah.
It's one of those leftist things.
Or the phrase community standards, it means nothing.
It's so Orwellian.
You know, it contravenes our community standards.
You mean what you decided privately in your boardroom.
Yep.
Well, in what proportion are people supposed to be affected?
And who creates the... Where are you measuring that against?
Disproportionally affects... Proportionally affecting would be fine.
Yeah, that would be totally good with that.
But proportions are out.
So was AgriVal on your radar screen already, Alan?
Was what?
Was AgriVal on your radar screen?
No, actually, I hadn't heard much about him before he was made CEO.
I will say, it's not the worst.
He wasn't the absolute worst pick.
He's probably going to be worse than Jack Dorsey, but the absolute worst pick, of course, would have been Vijaya Gad, a literal demon woman who's head of the public... What was it called?
The one who testified.
Yes, yes, profit and safety, that's it.
Yes.
We'll always be careful of anyone in Silicon Valley who works under the heading Trust and Safety.
That's their euphemism for censorship departments.
Exactly.
Exactly.
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Allam, Let's talk about some potential good news.
We've seen the acquisition of Locals.com, the anti-censorship community subscription service by Rumble, which of course itself is the First Amendment alternative.
to the censorious fascistic YouTube which is owned by Google and Alphabet.
Rumble went public today.
According to Mr. G, the share value shot from $1 to $14 already and now has settled back at $10.
Does this mean that we're finally developing an alternate ecosystem to Silicon Valley?
Well, I've always been very impressed with Rumble.
I think it probably has the best potential of any of the alternative tech platforms that have sprung up in recent years.
And, yeah, it's been an extraordinary success story, I think.
Lots of people who use Rumble just tell me they get more views there than they do on YouTube.
I think it's harder for other platforms to compete, I think, with video.
You get a really Personalities have a very dedicated following and they take that following with them to new platforms, whereas with Twitter or even Reddit or Facebook will tend to like be more varied in the kind of things they follow on those platforms.
But Reddit is... Go ahead, Alan.
I think we've seen the challenges to those platforms struggle a little bit to compete with them.
But I think there's definitely a promising future for Rumble and other competing video platforms.
So what's the final scenario?
What's it going to look like in five or ten years from now?
Is it just going to be You know, the monolithic giants in a quasi-cartel with smaller companies trying to survive.
Or do you think it is possible to break the back of the censorious lords, you know, masters of the universe in Silicon Valley?
Well, I think there are two potential scenarios.
One is the Republicans get their act together, they get back control of the levers of government, and they actually use it this time to reimpose some sort of universal standard on Silicon Valley.
This would be the best case scenario, in my opinion.
Forcing Silicon Valley to go back to the status quo that existed in 2014 and 2015, when there was a genuinely even playing field, more or less, on social media platforms.
My opinion on these social media platforms has always been, they were great up until they started censoring people.
Up until they started censoring people, they were giving people, they were allowing bloggers and independent video hosts and Independent journalists, the ability to compete on an even playing field with the New York Times, with CNN, you know, you could write a blog post and overnight it could get, you know, more views than a New York Times article, you know, or ten times views even.
So if we could get Silicon Valley to go back to what it was doing back then, that would be great, that would be perfect.
And I think you see some of the things greater states are doing, like Texas and Florida, and particularly Texas, I will say, their tech is very good.
And the option to treat them as a public utility, what do you think of that?
That's a good approach, or a common carrier, that also works.
The Texas law does say they should be treated as common carriers.
It has been blocked by a judge, the same judge who tried to block the Texas abortion law, but that was, you know, eventually upheld by the Fifth Circuit, and, you know, my lawyer friends say that's likely what's going to happen here as well.
The second scenario, if Republicans don't get their act together, I think, is going to be increasing reliance on blockchain technologies, which are much, much harder to censor.
I think we're all seeing that with the move away from the centralized financial system to blockchain-based payments.
A lot of people have been kicked off PayPal and Stripe have turned to coin and other cryptocurrencies instead, and they've continued to raise money through those technologies.
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Cut 10?
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Down here.
What's cut 11?
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What is cut 11?
The one you sent me right before.
Biden.
Play that one?
President Fauci.
Oh, President Fauci.
That's fine.
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Audio cut 10.
There's a concept called Moeller's Ratchet, and as viruses evolve, they become more contagious because they want to replicate, but they also become less lethal because killing your host doesn't help you replicate very well.
So again, that's sort of the general tendency of viruses.
So why would we expect anything different With the coronavirus, except for you want to create a state of fear to keep us in the state of fear to maintain the controls.
By the way, Fauci did the exact same thing with AIDS.
He overhyped it.
He created all kinds of fears, saying it could affect the entire population when it couldn't.
Okay.
And he's doing... It doesn't sound like him.
It's a terrible phone connection.
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Count 11.
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You want to say something about the vaccines?
What I want to say is that, you know, you got a lot of very worried American Airlines workers, pilots, flight attendants, cargo workers, ramp handlers, that are waiting on this decision from the federal judges.
Uh, you know, can we push back against this or not?
We have to.
Every single American has to.
It's not a question.
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Yes, sir.
Yeah, it's just, you know, mandates are un-American.
Look at what's happening in Australia.
This utterly blows my mind.
We're going to ask Miranda Devine about this because she's from Australia.
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If you don't believe me, take the time, take three minutes and look it up for yourself after the show, after the Carl Rittenhouse interview.
They have camps for people who are infected or people who don't want to get vaccinated.
When you go down that path, when you sacrifice your autonomy, the sovereignty over your rights, then the government can do anything.
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Uh, Fauci boosters... Cut-wise?
You should do, you should take two.
Two, I think Mothrope's a good idea.
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Nancy... Nancy losing her mind.
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I love that Tucker's Chiron calls him CNN's Dwarf King and Eunuch.
That is rich.
Alright, hang on.
YouTube is back to crushing it with their movies channel.
Why?
The best version of Moby Dick is on YouTube.
Oh, the one with... Greg Peck.
Gregory Peck, yeah.
Yes.
You know what he was good in?
The Boys from Brazil.
He was scary.
I haven't seen that one.
I think he played Mengele, the Nazi doctor, or a character based on him.
I also need to see the original Cape Fear sometime.
I've seen the Scorsese version.
The original what?
Huh?
The original what?
Cape Fear.
Oh, Cape Fear.
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This is the beginning of his interview with none other than Kyle Rittenhouse.
Kyle, from the first moment I saw, you know, you in the news and the video of you defending yourself, you know, I felt like we had something in common.
We both grew up in the same neighborhood, you know, kind of a shared story, and you always just wanted to try to help people.
That is correct.
While growing up, my mom was a single mother working as a CNA at a nursing home helping old people and inspired me to start helping people wanting to go to nursing school, becoming a lifeguard, becoming a firefighter, EMT cadet, and a police explorer.
You grew up in Antioch?
I did.
I grew up in Antioch, Illinois.
I lived in Lakeville for a couple years.
I actually moved around a lot, but the last place I was living was Antioch, Illinois.
Growing up, what did you want to be when you got older?
Growing up, I wanted to be a police officer to be able to help people and help people when they're having bad days because cops see people on their worst days.
Jack?
So they made this whole big deal during the trial in Binger.
I call him Lunchbox.
He is his sidekick there because he brought him along like a boxed lunch.
They said, oh, well, you're not even from Kenosha.
You don't even live in Kenosha.
You cross state lines, all this business.
But it seemed to me, when I was hearing you speak about it, and then when you took a stand, you talked more about it, that it seemed like Kenosha did mean something to you.
It did.
You had a lot of connections.
So what does Kenosha mean to you?
Well, Kenosha, my best friend Dominic lives there.
My dad lives there.
My entire family pretty much lives there.
I go grocery shopping in Kenosha, and of course, they have the best cheese curds in the world, as we all know.
Can confirm.
Yeah, I've been there a couple of times since all this.
I was there, I guess, two weeks after that happened.
So I was there like mid-September of last year and then I've gone back a few times just to see it.
It's actually a really nice town.
I really liked it.
I enjoyed it.
I went there with my brother.
We had a great time.
Oh yeah.
It's down-to-earth people who is just...
Just people that are just, like, wanting to be... It's a Midwest.
We call it Midwest Friendly.
We wave to people driving down the road.
Did you ever... I mean, obviously the answer is no, but talk to us what it was like, though, going from the mindset of, I want to help people on that night.
That's your intent.
And you've got this great...
This place, this town, this great town.
Yes, and you see the town starting to fall apart, and the next thing you know, your entire life gets put in jeopardy because you defend yourself, and you have to be called a murderer, a white supremacist, all of this.
Talk about how you dealt with that.
How did you just, that's probably the most immediate reversal a human being could go through.
How I dealt with that was I would block out social media.
I wouldn't go on my phone.
I would just not pay attention to any of that and just focus on what's in front of me.
And so Dave, I want to bring you into the conversation.
So Dave, you've kind of been in some ways like a mentor father figure to Kyle and kind of been the family spokesperson.
And you kind of got thrown into this entire thing.
Talk about who Kyle is as a person, because this is not just a ordinary 18 year old.
No, absolutely not.
I first met Kyle on the 20th of November when I picked him up and we spent about three hours driving down to the safe house.
I really got to know him at that moment.
He's a A good, a civic-hearted.
He cares about people.
He's empathetic.
And he just really has a great head on his shoulders.
I mean, he wants to do great things as he gets older.
And I've just learned that he's not vitriolic.
He's not this political kid.
He basically loves everybody.
So that's the Kyle that I got to know.
I mean, and it's amazing sitting here, Kyle, because You put anybody else through that situation.
You put me through that situation when I was 18 and everything else that happened afterwards.
I would have a huge attitude and a chip on my shoulder and everything else, but you seem like you're...
Pretty, you know, pretty well adjusted and actually dealing with it quite well.
You're positive, you're outgoing, you're friendly.
What do you think it is that people get, you know, wrong about sort of, it's like there's the image that they try to make of Kyle Rittenhouse and then there's the real Kyle Rittenhouse.
So what do they get wrong the most?
Well, what I would say is people want to push their own agendas and they don't want to look at the facts of what happened or they just don't want to get to know me as a person or just as a human.
And so, but how do you stay magnanimous?
I mean, you don't seem as if you're bitter.
I mean, you spent 87 days in jail.
Like, I would be pretty upset about that.
Not to mention, having to go in front of the state of Wisconsin and be like, oh yeah, by the way, if we are able to persuade 12 people, you're going to spend the rest of your life in a prison cell.
To be honest, it does make me upset.
I'm just like, it's out of my control and the only thing I can do is stay humble and look at the positive in life.
And you now want, you want to now build a life.
Some people aren't allowing you to do that, right?
They're saying that, you know, they want the Department of Justice probe or whatever to continue, you know, forwarded this.
You know, as you were going through this, let's talk just kind of about the specifics of it.
You know, you're able to get out of jail.
87 days you were there, and then all of a sudden you have to start meeting with lawyers and your legal team and starting to mount a defense.
And then the trial went underway.
Talk about what that was like, you know.
Talk about the details and the specifics.
You have to go every single day, and you're not allowed to say anything until you took the stand, which I want to ask you about.
How much were you sleeping at those nights?
How are you dealing with that?
You're an innocent person.
In some ways, the process was the punishment.
We see you on screen, but what's it like?
Behind the scenes during all that.
Well, how it is behind the scenes, I have my amazing team, Mark, Corey, Natalie, John, LT, Dave, helping me through this and guiding me because believe it or not, I'm freaking out behind the scenes because you don't know what's going to happen.
So to have them to be to support me, helping me through this and explaining helped me stay calm.
And what I'm thinking when I'm just the Blank face, potted plant, in court.
I'm just saying in my head, is this guy serious?
Referring to Lunchbox and Banger.
Also known as Littlefinger.
Yes.
And there's one thing that I noticed about him.
He's very level-headed.
Totally.
Absolutely level-headed.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Would explain how you were able to effectively defend yourself under imminent, you know, threat of death.
I mean, it was calm, cool, and collected all the way through.
So talk, at what point in the trial were you all of a sudden like, okay, this is now going in a good, like a direction that is somewhat favorable?
Was there a turning point in the midst of the trial?
Two actually, for when I knew the state didn't have a case, is when they had their opening statements and when they put Dominic Black on the stand, which really helped me.
That's when I knew that they didn't have a case.
So the opening statements you already knew?
Yeah, because he said I chased down Mr. Rosenbaum, which is not true.
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Here we continue with the story of how this young man knew that he was going to win the trial and the lies they said about him.
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You know, the guys that I would work with, like Richie McGinnis, and Elijah Schafer, Drew Hernandez, Julio Rosas, they were all there, and then BG on the scene as well.
And I'm watching these videos come out, and I'm looking at this situation going, hey, wait a minute, they're chasing this guy, but the media is saying it the other way.
And that's not what happened, and I can see these videos, and you guys are lying about this.
And then so, you would have to think that Okay, if I'm an adversarial prosecutor, I'm going to put, I'm going to bring witnesses forward that are going to, you know, help my theory of the case.
And to your point, in his opening statement, that's what he says.
He says they were chasing you, or excuse me, that you were chasing them.
But then the very next thing he does is bring on a witness that supports your side of the case.
Exactly.
And all their witnesses.
Well, yes, actually.
And that turned out to be a trend that we saw throughout the rest of the trial.
Every single one of them, they were the ones who called Richie.
You guys didn't even have to call Richie.
During his opening when he said that, one of the things I was thinking, I was like, jeez, I didn't know that he watched the videos backwards.
There was a meme of that where it was a binger and he goes, well, all you have to do is play the video in reverse and you can clearly see Kyle chasing them.
Which is basically, I mean, for the amount of hocus pocus, right?
That they did on these- Hocus pocus is out of focus.
Hocus pocus is out of focus that they did on these videos.
It almost got to the point where they had to play the videos backwards because you couldn't find anything else on these things.
But you know, one thing with that, with these videos and just, you know, being able to support Free Call USA and all the other stuff, did you have a sense, you know, both during the trial and beforehand that yes, obviously there was an entire mainstream media and political really establishment that was hell bent on making you obviously there was an entire mainstream media and political really establishment that was hell bent on making you the scapegoat for everything that happened
But did you also realize that there were millions of people that had your back, that were supporting you, going through these videos, donating?
And thank you so much to the people who do support me and have donated.
It means a lot to me and my family, helping us pay for these legal bills.
It just means so much to me.
We couldn't have done it without them.
It's just amazing.
With the whole people who didn't support me, I actually didn't know how much support I really had until I got bailed out.
I didn't know how much of the world supported the right to self-defense.
So, you wake up And maybe the day before, or the day before that, your defense counsel says, Kyle, you're going to take the stand.
Talk about what went into that, because that's a big deal, Kyle.
You waived your Fifth Amendment rights.
Talk about that.
Well, so I met Mark in mid-September, about three weeks after the incident.
Your lawyer?
My lawyer.
And he is a straight-up guy.
He's amazing.
The first thing he told me was, look, You gotta take the stand.
And I said, I agree.
I want to tell my story.
Ever since I got billed out, we were preparing.
So that was there from the start?
That wasn't like a game time decision?
No.
It was something we prepared for over a year.
Corey, my other attorney, would help prepare me and he would cross-examine me and help me tell my story.
Not tell my story, but...
Help not fall into the loopholes that Attorney Binger would have me fall, try to fall into.
That's right, because they mentioned you guys did a couple of mock trials.
Yep.
So in those, it was actually Cory playing, I guess, Binger, basically.
Bad guy.
Yeah, well, the bad guy, right.
Real quick, who was better, Binger or Cory, at the prosecuting?
Cory is an amazing...
Attorney and a way better prosecutor than that entire office of Kenosha.
I mean, some of the questions he's asking you, like, do hollow point rounds explode, right?
No.
Did you play Call of Duty too much, Kyle?
Like, look, I play Call of Duty.
I didn't lie.
I play COD.
It's a video game.
So, but Kyle, walk us through this.
So you wake up and you know this is the day you're going to take the stand.
And more than just the stand, you know this is a nationally publicized televised trial, right?
What's going through your mind?
That's like the biggest moment of your life.
Yeah.
Well, I was like, whew, I was sweating.
And as you guys seen, I was white as a ghost when I took the stand.
I was like, I couldn't eat.
And thank God I had the people around me.
Who were able to talk to me and calm me down.
First time I saw him silent.
Beforehand?
In about a year.
Beforehand.
Yeah.
Did you have cold feet, like maybe I don't want to do this?
Because Kyle, to be honest, I'll tell you, you can go back to the Charlie Kirk Show archives, in our JV analysis, I thought it was a mistake.
I was like, the trial's going so well, This is unusual.
You came on our show and I asked you and I said I'm going to yield to the wisdom of the defense.
People were worried.
People were very worried.
You and I were texting like, what is going on here?
Because it's one of those situations where it's a risk.
It's a gamble.
It's such a gamble to see can this guy And fortunately for you, the guy was an idiot.
That's a nice term.
No, I mean really.
I was at Guantanamo Bay for a year.
There's way more that he could have done that he didn't even try to.
Because he's talking about video games and doesn't even know the basics of ammunition.
You know, what did you think?
Yeah, just sort of, even in your mind, right?
Because as you get up there, Judge Schrader is saying, hey, you still have, it is still your decision, right?
Do you, it seemed like he gave you all the space that you needed to be able to say, look, right up until this moment, it's my choice that I do this.
My reasoning behind taking the stand is I wanted the world to know who the real Kyle Rittenhouse was.
And obviously, you know, it was compelling to millions and millions of people because the more you talked, the more people were like, this is a normal kid who, you know, got caught into something that you didn't even want to get caught into and obviously defended yourself.
And so you get up there and then, you know, Binger starts to then go after your Fifth Amendment rights.
Talk about that.
So I was on the stand and Binger starts commenting on my post-arrest silent, and I was like, what the f***?
I was like, what is- like, this is basic middle school constitution test stuff.
I know this stuff.
You don't comment on a defendant's post-arrest silence.
So literally every TV show, movie, you know, you have the right to remain.
It's the first thing they say.
It's the right against self-incrimination.
So what's going through your mind at that point?
I mean, I'm like, did he really just go there?
And I was, I was astonished.
I, like, I was in shock.
I don't know about you, how you were when you heard that.
I was like, what was that?
I was pretty verbal in the gallery.
I was like, oh, come on, like, because it was just appalling.
And then the judge stepped up, who, by the way, the judge is being wrongly attacked as being on your side.
He was on the side of the Constitution.
Exactly.
He is a Constitution.
Not your side, definitely not Binger's side, because Binger is a crazy person.
Because, by the way, this judge is known for, um, If you, you know, if the jury comes back with a verdict of guilty, he's known for being a harsh, by-the-book, sentencer.
So talk about this.
So then the judge intervenes and issues one of the most harsh condemnations.
What was going through your head at that point?
It took a lot to hold back.
I wanted to break out.
And laughter, because I was like, shouldn't have gone there.
Perhaps one of the most amusing elements of the trial, yes, reinstilling our faith in the judicial system and that judge who wasn't having any of the shenanigans from the prosecution.
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Welcome back to Charlie Kirk's exclusive interview with Kyle Rittenhouse here on America First on the Salem Radio Network.
Do you think though, Kyle, that the prosecution was trying to throw the trial?
Or the case?
It's my belief, and probably right now because we did win the case, that he knew it wasn't going so good for them so he wanted a mistrial.
That's why we filed a motion for a mistrial with prejudice.
I mean, they completely had it wrong.
The third set of facts they were on in the middle of trial, they just kept changing their fact pattern, saying what he did and didn't do.
So were there any points in the trial where you thought that Judge Schrader was going to make that ruling and would declare a mistrial?
Were there any specific points where you think that it got to that sort of critical mass?
A lot of people's beliefs are different from mine, even on my team.
I didn't think he was ever going to leave this out of the hands of the jury.
I don't think he wanted to be that guy that took it out of the hands of the jury.
So I didn't think he would grant that until the jury made a ruling.
It seemed to me in jury selection, and he gave that big speech about You know, where juries come from, where the law comes from.
It seems to me that he really did respect the jury tradition, and so...
I'm with you, basically.
I had the same read on him that he really, you know, maybe he would have if he had to, but unless it really crossed the line, he wanted this to be a jury decision.
And, you know, obviously, thank God it turned out to be the right one.
And Binger did everything he could.
So let's just show 34 on the screen.
So Kyle, you're sitting there.
It's closing arguments.
Right?
You're like, what's the side?
What's going on?
You know, how's the jury trending?
And the next thing you know, let's put Cut 34 on the screen, guys.
You have Attorney Binger pick up an AR-15.
Oh my god, yeah.
And just decide, with the, you have better trigger posture than him, Kyle.
Kyle, what is he pointing at?
Is he threatening the jury?
Pretty much.
He was pointing his gun at the gallery and I looked at my attorney.
This is your gun, right?
That's my rifle.
Yeah, that is yours, right.
That we're having destroyed right now.
We don't want anything to do with that.
So I looked at Cory and I said, Cory, that's gun safety 101.
Loaded or unloaded.
Treat a gun like it's loaded.
Yeah.
And he points it at the jury.
Exactly.
I think at that point I said, all right, they're freaking out.
I mean, they got nothing left.
So there's this video that the FBI had in their archives, 14 months.
It clearly shows you being chased down by this deranged individual.
Corners you all of it HD, you know, this isn't you know behind the cars because and this was always key that that you know People who are looking at this never got is that all the camera footage from that night?
was surface level, right?
Because it's handheld.
So, and of course, Richie thinks he has his camera going, but he doesn't.
And he's beating himself up over that, but you know, it happens in the heat of the moment that this thing is above looking down, sees the whole thing.
You can actually see the anger and just, just, you know, insanity in Rosenbaum's face as he's chasing you, that I don't think you show that face to anybody.
That they would think that this guy... And let alone threaten to kill them twice that night.
Right, right.
That he has anything other than, you know, very dangerous evil intentions.
And they sat on this thing for 14 months.
Didn't give it to you guys.
The prosecution had it.
Why didn't the FBI release this the next day?
That's the question.
I'll let Dave explain the FOIA request.
Milo's very upset with the FBI right now.
Very upset.
They had a high-definition version that they admitted they had, but destroyed.
And they said that in the same sentence as admitting that they knew what they had that night.
So, I mean, you gotta wonder what was going on there.
So we filed FOIA requests for that footage and it was... For the HD footage.
For the HD footage.
For any of the footage.
And they said no records.
And then his attorneys filed the appeals and no records.
And they still haven't met their duties as a federal agency under FOIA.
Still, to this day, so.
Now Kyle, you had your cell phone on you that night, right?
I did.
So my take on this is most likely the reason that they didn't want this getting out is they probably had these types of surveillance flights going on over all the riots of 2020.
And they probably had an optics package and a signals package on there, where they were able to track all the cell phones of everyone in that.
So it's not necessarily that they were, like, looking at you, but they were probably tracking every single thing that we went on.
So help me understand this, though.
The FBI had potentially a sculptory information that was given to the prosecution, and that footage has been deleted or missing.
I'm not quite understanding that whole part of it.
So they had the standard definition, which gets fed to the ground, and then they had the high definition, which gets taken on the aircraft itself.
They admitted on the stand that the standard definition that went to the ground, that's what was turned over to the prosecution.
Long after the incident itself.
The high-definition version on the aircraft itself, they claimed, was destroyed.
And that is the one that you can zoom into and you can see every single thing that happened on the ground.
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So when I got arrested, John Pierce and Lin Wood started raising funds without my family's permission.
And then they went on to fight an extradition fight using a novel argument saying I was in a malicious, John Pierce can get paid and grow his business and profit, apparently.
And while doing that, I said, I don't want to fight extradition.
I did nothing wrong.
I want to go litigate this in Wisconsin because I didn't do a single thing wrong.
They didn't respect my beliefs and they kept on Doing that.
And then, finally, we lose that extradition battle.
I get shipped off to Wisconsin.
John Pierce had no idea until I called him that I was in Wisconsin.
That's your lawyer.
That is my lawyer.
That's the one who just sat in court and argued some sort of bizarre 1780s argument.
That he's in an unorganized militia.
And he lost.
And you're not in an organized militia, right?
Look, I don't even know what a militia was.
Good answer.
Yeah.
Lin Wood is going on with all this, like, QAnon stuff.
QLin.
And he's just off his rails.
Completely insane.
He needs to get on meds or something.
And he's trying to claw back money raised for him.
So if I could put some more color on this.
Explain this to the audience.
I honestly don't even know what the status of the money is.
And we'll get to that.
But I want you to walk through all this.
Because you're a young boy.
You're literally a boy, by the law, in jail, and your lawyers don't even know what state you're in.
No, it's ridiculous.
So, I'm in Wisconsin, and I have to stay there an extra 20 days because Linwood and John Pierce have to scramble to raise money.
When they had it, they could have raised, they had enough prior, but they wasted it on extradition instead of looking out for my best interest.
And then, November 20th, I finally get bailed out.
Lin Wood and John Pierce like to think they're the heroes in this case.
They're just a bunch of fraud men.
So, uh, when this happened on the 25th, I was actually with Linwood.
I don't like to admit that.
So they started to bring money into the Fight Back Foundation, semi-informally.
There was about two or three other fundraising entities.
One was the Give, Send, Go fundraiser, which raised $585,000.
$585,000.
Where'd that money go?
Wendy approved that money to be sent to Fightback, thinking that they would be good stewards.
By September 8th, Fightback knew that there was a $2 million bail.
The second he got extradited, that bail would have been set.
They knew.
Lin said, the focus needs to be on fighting extradition.
By this time, they had raised $1.2 million, right?
They could have raised that next eight.
They were a hindrance.
Once they got involved, they kept him in jail.
And let's say for safety, but because John was charging $1,275 an hour.
So he was looking for financial capital.
I don't want to blow past that.
They said we want to keep him in jail for his safety?
What do they mean by that?
They seem to believe this was their argument on the outside.
Now it's their argument.
We wanted him to stay safe, right?
Because Lynn was getting tons of political capital, right?
Because now you start talking about the election coming up and he was just...
All he cared about, and I saw him, and all he cared about was his Twitter followers skyrocketing, right?
And John was billing at $12.75 an hour, so it was in his best financial interest.
So they kept him in jail.
The guy that's in $70 million debt.
So your lawyers were profiting off of your suffering.
That is correct.
And they like to say that it was for his safety.
They could have, and they knew on the 8th.
They could have raised that, that too.
They spent 800 to a million dollars, 800 grand to a million dollars fighting extradition and lost in 30 seconds.
And what I find extremely disturbing is how Lin Wood is out here saying I'm being handled like I'm a dog.
He doesn't realize how insulting that is to me.
I'm a grown, well I'm 18.
You've been through plenty, you're a grown man.
Yeah, I make my own decisions.
It really ticks me off.
I have this insane lunatic saying I'm being handled and then I'm like... Deep state.
Yeah, deep state.
I'm like, what the hell is wrong with this person?
CIA, deep state, all this Wazi crap.
Because I know Lin, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Lin also represent Nick Sandman?
Until he was fired by Nick.
Briefly.
So he was fired as well.
Kyle...
You are in the most vulnerable position a human being can be in.
I mean, not most, but it's there, right?
It's top five.
And then to have these attorneys come in and try to take advantage.
Yeah, so then you have these vultures come in while you're in jail without running water.
Is that correct?
The sheriff says that's not true, but I believe you.
Look, I didn't have running water.
I didn't tell anybody about it because I'm not a complainer.
Maybe I should have said something.
But I didn't have running water.
You're never going to be in that situation again.
You should have said something.
That's a different topic.
That's the headline for this, by the way.
They had to re-raise that money.
And so then they had to re-raise the money while you're suffering in jail.
Just to jump ahead, what's really disturbing is that this idiot cannot Provide an accounting when me or my mom asked for him.
And when he does, it's on like a Google spreadsheet.
Correct.
He denied for over a year to have a independent third party audit conducted of Fightback Foundation, which was requested by Wendy on multiple occasions.
He didn't even provide an accounting, like what was brought in and what was spent until last month.
And it's completely inaccurate.
So, and he would not link to FreeCowUSA.org, which is Wendy's fundraiser to raise money for him.
Wendy started that fundraiser, she had zero dollars.
We had to re-raise dollars.
I want also the audience to know the financial status of the Rittenhouse family.
You dropped out of school to support your mom, is that correct?
I did.
I was working three jobs.
I was working at the YMCA RecPlex and I was doing some landscaping gigs off the side.
Wow, what a great kid.
Well, he's a man now.
That's Kyle Rittenhouse.
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Here is our last segment from Charlie Kirk's exclusive interview with Carl Rittenhouse where they talk about the brave men that refused to be intimidated and saw that justice was done.
The fear that we had, Kyle, is that there was this fear of jury intimidation, which we have some tape to play on.
I think it's MSNBC.
That's right.
Not a fan.
Neither am I. Good.
We have that in common.
And we have the cut here, we got cut 29 queued up, of the judge announcing that MSNBC is banned from the courtroom.
Now, for following jurors, and that's where Jack and I were interfacing, like, wait a second, this is now heading into really dangerous territory.
That a young man's life might be put in jeopardy if one of these juries feels even slightly intimidated.
Let's play Cut 29.
A person who identified himself as James G. Morrison and who claimed that he was a producer with NBC News.
The police, when they stopped him because he was following in a distance of about a block and went through a red light, pulled him over and inquired of him what was going on and he gave that information and stated that he had been instructed by Ms.
Bayan in New York to follow the jury bus.
He's not here today from what I'm told and I have instructed that no one from MSNBC News will be permitted in this building for the duration of this trial.
And so there was this fear that, is the jury going to be intimidated? - That, when I heard about that, I was like, I've like put my head down.
We went into the Judge Chambers, I'm like, I said, why can't people just do honest journalism these days? - Yes. - It's just so unprofessional for the person who did that to do that.
It's like, who in their right mind would do that?
What was your impression of, I guess, the media before all of this started and then now?
Well, I don't watch the news.
I never have.
That's why you're so happy.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah, it sounds bad.
I don't pay attention to what's going on in the world before this and right now.
I focus on myself and I focus on work.
Just to follow up on that real quick.
So, but you had a sense of, you know, there's this media out there, they report things.
You know, did you have, you know, just kind of glance at a headline and then... Our best friend, Twitter.
Well, there you have it.
Congratulations to Charlie Kirk and God bless Carl Rittenhouse.
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