Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool

All Episodes

Previous Next

Nov. 10, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

02:51:30

Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Judge in Rittenhouse case rips into prosecution

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Time	Text
	When the police
	are letting you pass the lines, they're warning you about people throwing rocks, they're handing out bottles of water, they're telling you that they appreciate you.
	I didn't really care.
	I was thankful for the water because I had OC stuff, gas in my eyes, but I didn't really notice or care.
	It didn't make you feel like they approved what you were doing?
	No.
	It didn't make you feel like you're emboldened now to go out there and act on their behalf?
	No.
	Let's play the video here, please.
	Hey!
	You yelled something friendly, friendly, friendly, I'm not sure how many times, but you yelled friendly out.
	Yes.
	This is, if I can use the pointer, you are crossing On the west side of Sheridan Road, you are crossing south across 60th Street here.
	All right, that's enough.
	I like a good core drama as much as the next man.
	Sadly, this is real life.
	This is happening right now.
	This is the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, who just looks like a scared young man who is being abused by some of the most corrupt Egregious, non-public servants.
	Well, let me just, we've got so much to discuss, an incredible guest today here on America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, you're listening to the Salem Radio Network, but let me just read to you Clearly, this has captured the attention of the nation.
	I've just been on my Twitter feed prepping for the show, and here are some of the comments from such a wide swath of individuals.
	One of them, I follow, Ron Coleman, an Orthodox Jew, a lawyer.
	He has argued before the Supreme Court.
	court.
	This is what he posted just recently.
	In over 30 years of law practice, I have never seen anything, anything like that.
	Like this quote-unquote cross-examination.
	Hashtag Rittenhouse.
	More recently, this is from somebody who's not exactly a conservative.
	Co-founder as he is of The Intercept, this is Glenn Greenwald.
	I never commented on the Rittenhouse case until I started watching large chunks of the trial.
	And all I can say now is that anyone who has done the same and denies that there's a huge gap between the media narrative about the trial And what is actually happening is not telling the truth.
	That's Glenn Greenwald.
	And then this one from Ben Dominich.
	He is the co-founder of one of our favorite websites, The Federalist.
	I admit to having no strong opinion about Carl Rittenhouse, other than his story seemed tragic and sad before the trial.
	But this incompetent joke of a prosecutor has changed that.
	That is what you heard just now.
	His name is Binger.
	He is the assistant DA.
	And our good friend Brett Smith, and this is the last one I'll read out to you, just 31 minutes ago as he was witnessing Kyle being cross-examined by the state.
	Biggest scumbag lawyer on planet Earth and clearly auditioning for CNN.
	Hashtag disbarbinger.
	When you hear the audio snippet, the video snippet we have of what the judge said to the prosecution less than an hour ago, you'll understand why this is an outrage, why this is an abomination.
	Guys, what do you think, given what we've seen so far?
	Let's go to Eric.
	Is this young man going to walk free out of that courtroom?
	If our justice system still works to some extent, absolutely, he should walk.
	At this point, they may not even get him on the procedural gun charge of underage possession of a gun.
	The prosecution has messed up that badly.
	John Jr.?
	Uh, I'm on the same boat.
	I think, uh, it's going really well for, uh, for Coverton House.
	I haven't seen anything that would dissuade me from that.
	And our in-house cynic, Mr. G?
	I'm the cynic?
	Eric's the cynic on this.
	I think he's easily gonna get off, but I still think it was a dumb idea to have him take the stand.
	I agree.
	Yeah, this is a dumb idea.
	Although, don't you think that, I mean, you look at the, he looks like he's, what, 16 years old?
	Yeah, and I think he's been doing good, but it's too much of a risk.
	It's a big risk.
	Yeah, it's a big risk.
	He shouldn't have done that, or his counsel shouldn't have let them do this.
	Let's, well, I think, oh my gosh, are we back-to-back guests?
	Well, we'll take some calls this hour.
	We've got Jenna Ellis, Trish Regan.
	We've got Jennifer Horne.
	We've got Robert Wilkie, the former VA administrator.
	We've got a whole Flipping hour on the latest, the truth about COVID, the vaccine rates, the masks, the booster shots with none other than Phil Kirpin.
	You've got to catch that.
	If you don't, if you're in a location, if you're in a locale that doesn't broadcast the third hour of the show, First, write to the station manager, ask them to get that third hour of the show.
	Second, you've got to subscribe to the podcast where you hear our in-depth interviews, our special third hours.
	It's called one-on-one wherever you go for your podcasts.
	Look for America First, punch my name in as well, subscribe and you won't miss a thing.
	And likewise, we live stream the whole show.
	We We post every one-on-one.
	We post our special interviews, our monologues on our video channel.
	YouTube are fascists.
	We're very grateful to Dan Bongino, to the people at Rumble.
	Go there right now.
	It is likewise absolutely free.
	Go to rumble.com slash Seb Gorka.
	That's rumble.com slash S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A.
	Now, let's play for you what the judge, Bruce Schroeder, said to the prosecution less than an hour ago.
	Cut 9.
	I have heard nothing in this trial to change any of my rulings.
	So why?
	That was before the testimony.
	Pardon me?
	That was before the testimony.
	Don't get brazen with me.
	You knew very well.
	You know very well that an attorney can't go into these types of areas when the judge has already ruled without asking outside the presence of the jury to do so.
	So don't give me that.
	That's number one.
	I have to tell you, I haven't sat in front of a lot of Judges in real time.
	I did it once for a speeding ticket in my life.
	I have watched many trials on TV, real ones.
	I don't think I've ever seen a judge as pissed as that.
	He actually looked, if you weren't watching on the video, he looked infuriated.
	He was jumping up in his seat and he said, don't get brazen with me to the deputy district attorney.
	Look, predictions, it's a mugs game, but right now, right now, based upon how the judge is responding to the way that this evil bunch of hyenas are trying to make... The fact of the matter of this, Rittenhouse killed two people.
	Both of them were criminals.
	One of them had just been released from jail for doing what?
	Raping young boys.
	If it were up to me, that would be a death penalty automatic in America.
	Rape a child.
	Death.
	End of story.
	That's the reason nations create capital punishment.
	He got out, which is just so understanding and empathetic of us.
	He threatened people all day and then He used force and threatened Kyle Rittenhouse, who was there to help people when he wasn't a community pool lifeguard.
	And that man shot to death.
	The child rapist.
	Rot in hell.
	The second man, oh yes, with a rap sheet for what?
	Assaulting women.
	He got killed as well after he swung at Kyle Rittenhouse with a skateboard to his head.
	Not all the tears will be shed for that man, I'm sure, in any community of decent Americans.
	And then the third guy who approached him with a Glock pointed to Kyle's head, who then had his bicep blown off by that brave young man.
	Come on, guys.
	A quit, or better yet, mistrial.
	This is America First.
	America First.
	It just felt like I did and walked away.
	Why did you lie to him?
	I didn't lie to him.
	I was using sarcasm.
	The words you said, yeah I did, those weren't true, were they?
	We're now fighting over sarcasm.
	This is a murder trial.
	He says it's sarcasm.
	He says it's a lie.
	And the-- he's trying to examine on it.
	Go ahead.
	When you told that individual, yeah, I did point a gun at you, that wasn't true, was it?
	I didn't point a gun at him.
	So, why did you react to him that way in that particular moment?
	I thought that would be the best way to avoid conflict.
	I just said, yeah, I did, sarcastically, like, I don't know what you're talking about.
	What conflict were you trying to avoid?
	Any conflict, if you would have got Like, he was accusing me of something I didn't do, so I thought the best thing would be... would be... would... the best thing to do would be to walk away instead of getting into some argument, so... But you didn't just walk away.
	You said to him, sarcastically, yeah, I did.
	Sarca... I said sarcastically, I did and walked away.
	Because you were worried about a conflict.
	What conflict were you worried about?
	A verbal argument?
	This individual is clearly expressing to you that he's unhappy because he thought you pointed your gun at him.
	Correct?
	Yes.
	And you can understand why someone would be upset when you point an AR-15 at them.
	Correct?
	Yes.
	You knew that even before this, right?
	Yes.
	In fact, back at the 59th Street car source, that crowd that you've described as not being... What's a car source?
	Not having any friction.
	Many in that crowd got upset because they thought people in your group were pointing their laser pointers at them.
	Do you remember that?
	I saw it in the videos, but I don't know what other people were doing.
	I'm not saying anybody actually was.
	I'm saying the crowd was upset.
	And you knew that.
	You heard them complaining.
	Correct?
	Watching the videos, yes.
	And even at that time, that night, you heard the crowd upset because they thought members of your group were pointing their laser pointers at them.
	Do you remember that?
	From that night?
	Sort of, yes or no.
	I remember Ryan Bald saying something like, Telling the people to stop pointing their lasers at people or something?
	I don't really remember that.
	Ryan Bulch was telling the people in your group to stop doing that.
	The people on the roof.
	Who were part of your group, right?
	That were there, yes.
	You know, when we're talking about laser pointers, we're talking about the sight at the end of some guns that helps.
	Almost like this, right?
	If somebody does this at me, you know, that could be someone pointing a gun, correct?
	You got JC on here.
	And that's what we're going to do.
	This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Are you fed up?
	Have you had enough?
	Almost two years of shutdowns.
	Now new mandates, not just for the feds, but for business owners.
	The small businesses keep America alive and they're doing everything in their power to stamp them out.
	Why?
	Because their buddies, the big box stores, Amazon and everybody else, they'll survive.
	Well, we've got to fight back.
	And there's one organisation that's the tip of the spear.
	It's the Job Creators Network.
	They're pushing back on the tax increases and the new mandates.
	Bad policy.
	That's exactly what Jimmy Carter did to us back in the 1970s.
	They're founded to fight for forced small businesses and defend free enterprise in America.
	Now they want to find a few good men and women to be part of their army of small business advocates and they'll train you up to be a voice for the lifeblood of America.
	Go today to JobCreatorsNetwork.com.
	Join the good guys.
	Check them out at JobCreatorsNetwork.com.
	We're still keeping our eye on the trial, the Kyle Rittenhouse trial that is happening right now.
	They're still cross-examining Kyle Rittenhouse.
	But we have some commentary that we want to share with you.
	This is, I think he used to be ESPN after, before he got a little bit too much of a hot potato for them politically because he didn't toe the line.
	This is Jason Whitlock on Fox News with his take of who Kyle Rittenhouse is.
	Cut three.
	To sit here and to listen to these MSNBC analysts who said around all of 2020, you go ahead and riot and loot.
	You go ahead and do whatever.
	You're justified in all that rioting and looting.
	And then be surprised that a 17-year-old would get out over his skis, overstep what he should be doing, Look at all this chaos.
	Look at grown men fail to be men and lead this country in a proper direction.
	So a 17 year old kid picks up a gun and says, I'm gonna get involved.
	It's not Kyle Rittenhouse's fault.
	It's our fault.
	The adults.
	We're not leading this country in a proper way.
	We've allowed chaos and anarchy to take over.
	We've allowed the thugs to run our society.
	And then all the elected people, the politicians that are making money, the millionaires sitting on TV, they're all sitting back.
	I don't know much about Jason Whitlock, but I like him.
	I mean, that was a very, very good take.
	He's the host of something called Fearless.
	The main takeaway there is what?
	And he's right.
	How come there weren't more car-ridden houses?
	The fact that grown men aren't prepared to defend, to protect, and to help others who are caught in the crosshairs of radicals and rioters?
	I know there's one reason.
	Fear.
	Remember what happened to David Dorn, retired police chief, who did exactly the same thing in the midst of the BLM Antifa riots.
	Got a phone call in the middle of the night from a friend whose store was about to be looted and he went down there to help his friend protect his property.
	And live stream on Facebook, he was killed.
	A black American, retired police officer.
	The amazing thing is there aren't more Kyle Rittenhouse's who stepped up to help those under attack.
	Can't think of a better guest to comment on what we're witnessing right now.
	The cross-examination of Carl Rittenhouse.
	We have to talk everything else, election integrity, audits and canvassing, but right now in studio we have President Trump's former attorney, chair of the Election Integrity Alliance, of which I am also a member.
	Jenna, have you been following the latest developments out of this court case?
	I have.
	I haven't watched all of the coverage, but definitely the main points of this case.
	So somebody who knows the law, who's taught constitutional law.
	Who's been a criminal defense attorney, by the way.
	Who's been a criminal defense attorney.
	I want to play.
	It's just 24 seconds long.
	This is what the judge did to the DA, to the prosecution an hour ago.
	And tell me if you've seen this often before.
	Cut nine.
	I heard nothing in this trial to change any of my rulings.
	That was before the witness testimony, Your Honor.
	Pardon me?
	That was before the witness testimony.
	Don't get brazen with me.
	You knew very well, you know very well that an attorney can't go into these types of areas when the judge has already ruled without asking outside the presence of the jury to do so.
	So don't give me that.
	That's number one.
	He did that after he ushered the jury out of the room.
	But of course it's still televised.
	That's not a good sign for the prosecution, is it, Jenna?
	Not really at all.
	And the thing that I actually really love and respect about this judge is that he is having none of the court of public opinion political theatrics nonsense from the prosecution.
	He is maintaining his courtroom as, guess what, a court of law rather than a political Theater.
	And this is the same thing, actually.
	Listen to my podcast today, by the way, The Jenna L Show on Salem Media, because I talked about this extensively about Rittenhouse and why the left is all about making this political theater instead of a court of law.
	I tweeted earlier this week that drew a ton of flack from people.
	Imagine if the Congressional Oversight Committee or the January 6th Committee was conducting the written house inquiry instead of a court of law.
	That's the contrast.
	Congress is so political.
	They are not judicial whatsoever.
	This judge is maintaining the predictability, the objectivity, and the rules of evidence and making sure that the prosecution does not in any way overstep his rulings.
	Why are judges like this so far and few between?
	It's really sad, honestly.
	I think he has a significant backbone to actually do this, knowing that it's televised and that the world is watching right now.
	But a lot of judges, they don't go into this for publicity, and they just can't handle the pressure.
	And it's really unfortunate.
	And I have met a few judges.
	I practiced in a lot of different jurisdictions in front of a lot of different judges, and there are some who understand the integrity of the bench and then others who just cave to political pressure, and it's really unfortunate.
	So this judge is great, I think.
	I think he should have had a directed verdict.
	So at the end of the prosecution's case, there's a thing called a motion for judgment of acquittal, which basically means that the defense always says that the prosecution has not fulfilled their burden of proof or burden of production, that no reasonable juror could possibly have a finding of guilty.
	So before the second half, the defense jumps in and says, they've had their chance, they blew it.
	Well, basically that they haven't fulfilled their burden because no reasonable juror as a fact finder, because remember juries, it's not political, they're not supposed to comment on anything, contemplate sentencing, all they're allowed to do is to be fact finders and say what has the evidence that has been presented, is that sufficient as a matter of law for a finding of guilty.
	Now, that doesn't mean the jury has to, obviously, but could a reasonable juror do that?
	And in this instance, when you have an affirmative defense like self-defense, not only does the prosecution have to fulfill their burden of proof and show that he's actually guilty of intentional homicide, which clearly they haven't fulfilled that burden of proof for production, they also have to show why it was not self-defense that is another burden as an affirmative defense, and they haven't shown that.
	When the guy says, yeah, I walked up to him and gained my pistol at his head, that's when the defense says, well, this is garbage.
	This can't be what you charged him with.
	So the judge could have done a directed verdict.
	But that has to be at the initiation of the defense.
	That has to be.
	Yeah.
	As soon as the prosecution rests, then the defense has that what's called a halftime motion colloquially.
	And then also, though, if the prosecution were not political actors and they actually fulfilled their higher responsibility to be advocates for justice, they would have been...
	I've seen in my career prosecutors who are ethical at the conclusion of their case say, sorry, we didn't fulfill our burden.
	Really?
	Yes, because so I was raised better.
	Boulder County District Attorney's Office used to be that good.
	Wow.
	We'll be back.
	Follow her in the meantime at Jenna Ellis ESQ.
	This is America First.
	America First
	.
	The victim basically recants and says, you know, no, this didn't happen.
	I was pressured, you know, and so they really have nothing else other than the victim's testimony.
	And sometimes they'll say, well, you know, they're too nervous.
	However, the prosecution wants to do it.
	But I've seen I have seen prosecutors call up the jury and tell the judge, I can't proceed on this because there is not evidence that a reasonable Fact finder would say I fulfilled my burden of proof and prosecutors who are ethical will do that and they will go where the evidence leads not go for their conviction rate or what's politically convenient to their careers.
	Prosecutors who are truly in it, like I have some friends at the Boulder DA's office now who I've known just for years, and there are some career prosecutors there who are not in it for their own glory at all.
	They are in it because they understand the higher calling of a prosecutor and they truly want to promote justice.
	So not everyone wants to be the mayor or governor, right?
	Exactly and you know that the couple of attorneys who because I started volunteering at the Boulder DA's office when I was 17 So because I was actually the victim of a sexual assault and had to testify and that was through Boulder County That's a whole other story, but I went back and was a volunteer victim advocate and went through a ton of trials Yeah, so you're there as an assistant basically and then you're also there to just be be moral support and
	For other victims of crimes.
	And I knew at that point I wanted to go to law school anyway.
	And the couple of prosecutors that I worked for, and one of them who actually was the one who prosecuted my case, is still to this day a very dear friend of mine.
	Oh, so they caught the guy?
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	So I ended up having to testify and all of that.
	And he ultimately pled guilty.
	And that was a win for justice.
	So I knew what that was like.
	So you ended up as a public defender?
	So I went as a prosecutor, but I was hired because there aren't that many positions that are open.
	So I was hired in another county, and I went in with the understanding of everything that I had seen, all of my experience of knowing, and my mentors, who I had seen them dismiss cases like that, when there wasn't evidence.
	So then when I was hired in a different county, Um, that elected DA at the time, the way that that office was run was purely political.
	And I was asked to prosecute some cases that in my opinion were unethical in the sense that we don't have the evidence for this.
	And why are we doing this?
	So what I ended up doing in one case, um, that was a careless driving causing death case.
	It was long story short, it was not something we should have been prosecuting.
	I pled this out and the next day I was called into, um, Next day, next week, something like that, was called into the DA's office and said, you think too much like a defense attorney.
	And I said, you know what?
	That's actually the biggest compliment you possibly could have given me.
	And in the interim, I wanted to go to a different office, but I ended up becoming a defense attorney.
	Went back and won cases against that office that were overzealously prosecuted.
	Private or public?
	Private.
	So I was never a public defender.
	Title for the monologue that you want to post?
	And of course, Wall Street Journal never asked me about any of that.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	Uh, Rittenhouse... Uh, Judge... Oh, what's a good title?
	Rittenhouse... 15 seconds.
	...Trial Collapsing.
	Rittenhouse Trial.
	My pillow, I'm really afraid of my pillow.
	Right.
	I'm gonna do Merch.
	Alright, Merch.
	All right, stand back.
	Portions of America First are brought to you in part by Job Creators Network. - Good work.
	We're here to help you, America, not just give you the news and the best analysis.
	If you're fed up with the supply chain problems, if you're fed up with the garbage that China is peddling in this country, you know what we've done for you?
	For the holiday season, for Christmas no less, we've decided to do little packages at SebWalkerStore.com.
	Why?
	Because everything we sell is made in America.
	We had this idea two days ago and Randy, our merchandising expert extraordinaire, has already come up with a seasonal package of Let's Go Brandon.
	Yes, if you go today to our website SebGorkerStore.com you can get the Let's Go Brandon gift bundle.
	You get a Let's Go Brandon t-shirt.
	You can choose the color!
	That's how free and democratic we are here.
	You get a Let's Go Brandon hat.
	It's the new MAGA hat.
	You've got to have it.
	As well as a package of... Wait for it.
	Wait for it.
	Let's Go Brandon yard signs.
	All three of those items.
	Actually four because it's two yard signs.
	For $89.
	You can send a message to your neighbors.
	You can have gifts for your loved ones.
	Go today.
	SebGorkerStore.com.
	It's the Let's Go Brandon gift bundle.
	S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A.
	SebGorkerStore.com.
	Do it today.
	You won't regret it.
	We are back in studio with my Salem colleague, host, What's up with the Arizona audit?
	Is it dead?
	So, show, former Attorney to President Trump, chair of the National Election Integrity Alliance, of which I am a member.
	Give us some updates.
	What's what's going on with election integrity?
	People keep texting me, DMing me.
	What's up with the Arizona audit?
	Is it dead?
	What should people be paying attention to?
	Yeah, you know, the the audit has been so, so slow.
	And this is now a year since the 2020 election.
	And we're still seeing kind of a lot of this trickle out.
	So I think everyone should be following Arizona Senator Wendy Rogers for a lot of those updates.
	The interesting thing that happened today is that the Public Liberty Institute, and I'm not getting their name precisely correct, let me go and look.
	They actually filed a lawsuit in Michigan saying that there were 26,000 dead people are still registered to vote in Michigan, and so this is another lawsuit.
	This is a year later.
	This is the Public Interest Legal Foundation, so PILF, and they're part of our Greater Election Integrity Alliance, and so they're a conservative ethics watchdog.
	And these types of lawsuits, I think, are going to continue to progress through the system.
	I know that people are so frustrated.
	It's taking a long time.
	But these are things that matter, because if they can show and can force the Michigan Secretary of State, Bockvar, who has been absolutely her in this, to actually purge Some of the voter rolls that will help clean up things before 2022 and 2024.
	We need to be doing this.
	The Michigan Legislature needs to pass common sense election security measures.
	So do all of the states.
	There needs to be audits in 50 states.
	We're still working on all of that.
	There's some great colleagues and other organizations.
	Um, that we have like our friend Cleta Mitchell, who's with the Conservative Policy Institute.
	She's doing some great work on election integrity.
	And so, um, so we're continuing to push this.
	I mean, there's not a ton of stuff right now that's in the media, but know that even if this isn't, you know, the spotlight on one, um, you know, shiny glitzy object, we are doing a lot of work on the ground in these states.
	But beyond these cases, the audits and everything else, what can we do about what I call the privatization of our elections?
	How can we stop Mark Zuckerberg from dropping another 400 million or maybe a billion dollars next time to basically have private individuals run our elections?
	What is the right tool to stop that, Jenna Ellis?
	Yeah, I think that's, again, where state legislatures control their election law.
	And states need to make sure that they are actually instituting common sense legislation.
	This isn't something that Washington, as much as we may like that, Washington should not be controlling the states.
	And we have to maintain that integrity as well.
	It is incumbent on state legislators.
	So for everyone who's listening throughout the 50 states to this program right now, make sure you are contacting your legislators and saying, what are you doing about election integrity?
	This is all about state sovereignty and making sure that the election law is correct and that also the administration of the elections is according to the law.
	And so this is where elections absolutely can be confronted on the state level.
	They should, and campaign finance types of reforms, all of these things are up to state and local officials, and this is something state legislators have to be involved.
	Where can people find out more about what you're doing?
	So yes, you can obviously follow me on social media at Jenna Ellis ESQ across all platforms including Getter, Twitter, everything else.
	And then you can also go to the American Greatness Fund to find out about our Election Integrity Alliance.
	You can sign up for alerts there and make sure that you are following.
	And even support us as well because this is a non-profit.
	I am just the chairperson.
	And this is something where if you want to actually help fund election integrity, you can give to the American Greatness Fund, earmark that for the Election Integrity Alliance.
	And that way we can do more in terms of getting resources to the states for the legislation.
	That's AmericanGreatnessFund.com.
	And of course, listen to her.
	Her podcast, The Jenna Ellis Show on Salem.
	We are America First.
	We are coming to you live from the relieffactor.com studios.
	Relief Factor.
	Are you in daily pain?
	Have you tried everything else only to fail to find relief?
	If that is the case, you've got to try this drug-free product.
	Just listen to Reggie from Florida.
	I have a lot of pain from aging and after only four days of using Relief Factor, I'm already experiencing less pain and stiffness.
	Can't wait to see how I feel in a couple more weeks.
	Relief Factor is a blessing sent by God.
	Powerful words.
	Find out for yourself.
	Order the three-week quick starter pack at relieffactor.com.
	It'll be at your door in three days or less.
	Take it morning and evening like I do.
	And I promise you, by the end of those three weeks, you will know whether it works for you like it works for Reggie and tens of thousands of your fellow Americans, me included.
	What are you waiting for?
	Call 800-500-8384.
	Call 800-500-8384.
	That's Dr. G's Guarantee, relieffactor.com.
	The End
	Okay.
	Okay, so Trisha's skyped now, by the way, John.
	So I'm going to go ahead and I'll try dialing her right now and see if this works.
	Okay, give me two seconds to switch it over.
	Yeah, channel one.
	Can I get an Uber back?
	Yeah, same place.
	Alright, Skype should be good.
	Okay, still ringing.
	It went from Skype to TV to in-studio mic to Skype.
	It all has to be on the same channel, too.
	Yeah.
	Two minutes.
	It's still ringing.
	It says error.
	Let me try again.
	Switch this channel around like a madman.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	for the Imperial Tour.
	The Congressional Committee investigating the Capitol riot issued subpoenas today for ten of Donald Corleone's associates.
	That's on top of the six subpoenas they issued Monday.
	Congress wants them to provide testimony and to shed light on the war room that was assembled at the Willard Hotel in D.C.
	where Trump's minions brainstormed ways to overturn the election.
	Boy, if they do ever end up arresting Trump, they should let Hillary cuff him.
	Shouldn't they just put him on release?
	Turn the...
	Is that meant to be comedy?
	Unbelievable.
	Let's leave Jimmy Kimmel to his fantasies of Hillary Clinton handcuffing a former president of the United States.
	At least he was a president.
	In my estimation, he will be again.
	Instead, let's talk about what is happening with the current incumbent with one of our regular guests.
	It's one of our stable!
	We have with us the market maven expert on all things economic, Trish Regan.
	Welcome to America First!
	Hello!
	What a day to be here!
	And, you know, it feels like I keep saying, well, I told you.
	I told you.
	You did.
	You've been talking about inflation for months now.
	I've been talking about hyperinflation as well.
	When the mainstream media talks about The fact that we haven't seen inflation of this nature since 1990, doesn't the whole narrative collapse or are they just going to blame the last guy, Trish?
	I think that the narrative collapses here.
	I mean, this is the product of bad policy, and you know what?
	It's hurting people really hard.
	Fuel oil up 59%, natural gas up 28%, propane, kerosene, firewood up 35% said, you know, people need to heat their homes this winter, and this is what they're dealing with.
	It's not like It's not like their salaries went up 59% and then, you know, steak up 24%, eggs up 12%.
	and then, you know, steak up 24%, eggs up 12%.
	We have a problem.
	And it's thanks to reckless, reckless economic policy from this administration and our Federal Reserve, And I am sorry, there's no excuse for this.
	Entirely preventable, but it is not transitory.
	I'll tell you that.
	It's not a temporary thing, like they want you to believe.
	It's not.
	It's here and it's getting worse every single day.
	So, walk us through, how do these end?
	What is the natural scenario?
	Because we can't just print our way out of this with the Fed.
	Is it a reversal of policies?
	In prior instances of rampant inflation, what has been the natural progression?
	How do you bring it all back, Trish?
	Well, you know, the Federal Reserve needs to be less aggressive on its monetary policy from a liquidity standpoint, right?
	They've just been printing money, printing money.
	They've been flushing $120 billion worth of bond buying programs into the market every single month since COVID.
	So they need to stop that.
	They're starting to taper back on that.
	But the reality is, and I hate to say it, you know, how did we fight this in the 80s?
	Paul Volcker, then head of the Federal Reserve, raised interest rates, right?
	And he kept raising them.
	But that was the only way to fight back against all the inflation that had accumulated.
	Now, you know, I do a lot on this, right?
	So, Seb, I've spent a lot of time looking at the history of this.
	And if you go back to the 1960s during Johnson's Great Society, what you saw at that time was a Federal Reserve aligned with the administration suddenly caring, and this is eerie how similar it is, caring more about employment than they did inflation. caring more about employment than they did inflation.
	The Fed is supposed to care about two things, employment and inflation.
	But they decided we're not going to care about inflation so much.
	You know what, we really care mostly about making sure as many people are employed as possible, as humanly possible.
	So they discarded their concerns for inflation.
	And what do you know, sure enough, by the 70s, you had some real serious inflation on your hands.
	And when you look at what's going on today, it's a similar scenario.
	The Federal Reserve... No, no, we need to focus on employment.
	I'm sorry, guys, but you know what?
	The job numbers are actually pretty darn decent.
	We got Thursday's jobless claims in, weekly jobless claims, and what you're seeing is those are all trending below $300,000.
	The reality is a lot of people have made a decision that they don't want to go to work.
	Okay, so be it.
	So the Fed needs to focus on inflation because if they don't, Feb, this hurts everyday Americans really hard.
	Now, if you look at the administration that's responsible, if you look at other areas such as immigration policy, the border, national security, you see a pattern in the last 10 months, Trish.
	When there's a problem, whether it's Afghanistan or elsewhere, there's a doubling down, there's a bloody mindedness.
	We have yet to see a reversal of any negative policy and a fessing up by the administration that they messed up, whatever the issue is.
	So doesn't that mean that when it comes to inflation, it's just going to get worse before it gets better?
	Great.
	I don't think anybody's going to take any responsibility on this.
	You did see Biden say today, oh, this is really important.
	We need to address it.
	But still, his theory is, you know, it's all supply chain related.
	You saw Janet Yellen do an interview on NPR today where she's like, oh, no, you don't have to worry.
	You know, the Federal Reserve is not going to let this get out of control.
	I'm sorry.
	It's not within the control of the Federal Reserve.
	I know they love to think in their academic ivory towers that they control the world.
	But once this thing leaves the station, as I have been warning of now for over a year, You know, it's very, very hard to control unless you raise rates and nobody wants that to happen because that would, you know, that would mean the cost of borrowing goes way up.
	It gets more expensive to own a car, own a house.
	Again, hurting everyday Americans.
	You know, they say they want to help the poor, working-class Americans, and yet, what are they doing?
	They're doing the exact opposite.
	Wall Street's benefited from this.
	The wealthy don't really care.
	You know, if gas prices go up 30%, it's like, okay, well, it's kind of a nuisance.
	But, you know, the everyday American is most hit by this.
	And keep in mind, even though the New York Times wants to tell you wages have gone up, they have not.
	Real wages are not going up.
	In fact, real wages are down because inflation is so high, even if you get a one or two or three percent increase in your wages at work, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter because it's all beaten up by inflation.
	Well, that means the conclusion more than ever isn't an economic one, isn't a policy one.
	It's a policy one.
	It's a policy one.
	It's a policy It's the midterms.
	The only reversal comes if we take political control of the House and the Senate and then the White House.
	In the meantime, get your updates every single day.
	Go to TrishIntel.com.
	Listen to her show, The Trish Regan show on Spotify.
	She's with us at Salem.
	And then follow her on Twitter at Trish underscore Regan.
	God bless you.
	Thank you for keeping us up to date every single week.
	Your calls next here on America First 833-33 Gorka.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	But please promise me you're not going to call us on a cell phone that's connected to one of the big cell phone providers.
	Why?
	Because they're not on your side.
	At the end of the month you pay your bill and they make massive donations to things like Planned Parenthood and gun control organizations.
	Make the switch today to the only conservative Christian cell phone company that's on your side.
	PatriotMobile.com.
	They have bundles to fit every single budget, the same nationwide cell phone tower coverage, and an amazing US-based customer service team.
	Make the switch today.
	Call 972-PATRIOT.
	Promo code G-O-R-K-A, or just go to patreonmobile.com slash G-O-R-K-A.
	They support the same causes you believe in and they've proven it.
	to patriot, patriotmobile.com, slash Gorka. .
	Okay.
	Mic's on.
	Okay.
	Titles.
	Titles.
	Is all that media you booked is out for today or is that tomorrow?
	Um, let's see.
	All this, you know... Yeah.
	Cortez and stuff.
	Yeah, Cortez tonight, Spicer tonight, and The Pastor.
	It's all on the calendar.
	Okay.
	Cortez's people want to know if you can be there like 10 minutes early for the basic tech setup and soundcheck, or...
	No, they don't need to tell them that I do Newsmax every day.
	They don't need to do a tech setup.
	Got it.
	I mean, I'm doing it from home, right?
	Yes, the home studio.
	Yeah, no, they can dial me when, you know, five minutes before the hit.
	Yeah, copy that.
	30 seconds.
	Is there anything here, or do you want to stand with Israel at the top?
	Oh, um...
	Coming with cut 2.
	Cut to.
	Copy that.
	15 seconds.
	Stand back.
	The End
	America first.
	Why, I gotta say Mayor Pete looks great.
	Clearly he's lost a baby weight.
	Oh, nicely done.
	Little Bob there from Greg Gutfeld.
	Mayor Peter's back after, what was it, two, three months off his double-secret paternity leave.
	Did he have the baby?
	Or did the guy who he shares his bed with, did he have the baby?
	I mean, what exactly are they recovering from?
	That's my question.
	Why were they photographed in our hospital bed during COVID?
	A hospital bed?
	During COVID?
	Very peculiar.
	Okay, have you booked your tickets?
	Come on guys!
	They cancelled on us last year because of the Wu flu, but next year, next November, we're going to Israel.
	It's going to be the trip of a lifetime.
	Me and my buddy Dinesh D'Souza To the Holy Land.
	You know you've always promised yourself this trip, and even if you've been, you haven't been with me.
	Book your tickets today.
	Standwithisraeltour.com.
	We're going to go to all the key sites that you may have only read about.
	You're going to actually be there with me and Dinesh.
	Call 855-565-5519 to book your seats today.
	855-5519 to bock your seats today.
	That's 855-565-5519.
	Or just go to the standwithisraeltour.com.
	Let's go to Dave, Arizona, line three.
	Thanks so much, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey. - Interesting.
	Interesting conversation with Jenna Ellis, as always, but my question is this, and a lot of my friends here in Phoenix share the same concern.
	Election integrity is great to talk about, to discuss after the fact, but as citizens, are we not duty-bound to have this resolved currently?
	Yeah.
	What are you doing about it?
	Well, I've been involved.
	I'm trying to be a PC out here in Surprise, but the challenge for Operation Chaos has been going on with BLM and Antifa fighting us in the streets for over a year.
	Well, fighting in the streets has got nothing to do with election integrity.
	What have you done to make it harder for Democrats to steal elections?
	I haven't done anything personally.
	OK, bingo.
	So there you go.
	That's the problem.
	Right.
	To ask me to come on this show in front of three million people and say, well, you know, we shouldn't bitch and moan now after the election.
	We should make sure, you know, what are we going to do if they steal it again?
	Wrong question, my friend.
	The question is, look in the mirror and ask yourself, what am I doing right now?
	My wife, she is an election official.
	She actually got the training, she volunteered, and she is there with her beady eye on the Democrats.
	Right now is the question, what have you done about it?
	Because I've had it.
	I've had it with people saying, oh, look, they're just going to steal it again.
	There's no point.
	Well, guess what happened, Dave?
	Guess what happened in the Commonwealth of Virginia?
	Did they steal the election in Virginia, Dave?
	They did not.
	They did not.
	Why?
	Because we energized people like you've never seen before.
	We had volunteers crawling out of the woodwork.
	Be that person.
	And Dave, get others to be that person with you.
	That's how we stop them.
	God bless.
	This is America First.
	America First
	Mic's on.
	Okay, so I know you'll ask Trish for a title for that segment.
	I did, I did.
	She's already said okay.
	The story goes on.
	Martha will be back tomorrow.
	Good night.
	Okay, so I know you'll ask Trish for a title for that segment.
	I did, I did.
	She's already said, okay.
	Can we stop Biden's inflation?
	And Jenna?
	Yeah.
	and yet and again that he was acting in self-defense when he fatally charged Yep.
	I already posted the monologue.
	Excellent.
	Tell John to push it.
	And I already posted the monologue.
	Excellent.
	Tell John to push it.
	I want to go back to the front because they are outlining some of the defense remarks and also whether Karl Riddowse himself...
	Alright, I'll pop out, I'll pop back in.
	And you're giving me as a defense, it's no different from using a magnifying glass...
	I don't believe that.
	Because if I take, you know, the image is the same, and all it's doing is improving my poor old vision.
	Here you've got someone, correct me if I'm wrong, I do believe the expert testified that he had inserted, either him or the device, inserted additional pixels into the image.
	Different program.
	Well, I don't know what kind of a program, I don't care what kind of a program it is.
	The question is, is the image in its original state? - Thank you.
	I'm having trouble finding just a lot on the Steele dossier.
	Do you want just Russian collusion?
	Go ahead.
	For the Steele, for the montage you want tomorrow about the Steele dossier?
	Yeah.
	Do you want just Russian collusion?
	I'm having a hard time trying to directly Steele.
	Does it make a difference?
	and all of them saying unverified.
	All right.
	Or do you want me just rushing?
	I mean, I can put some of it in there.
	There's some of it.
	Yeah, put some of it.
	Yeah, mix it up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, the jury's definitely been sent out again, If it's mistrial with prejudice, they can't commit it.
	assure me if it's mistrial with prejudice they can't oh really that's what the defense hospital is that it is a reliable method that does not distort what is depicted so okay so we're taking right I actually do perfectly plan now and I don't think that's what I said.
	If I said that, shame on me, I said that we're going to take a break right now.
	If I said that, shame on me.
	I said that we're going to do it right now.
	And I said, before I'm going to allow this to be amplified in the way that you want, it is going to have to be shown, demonstrated to me, that it's a reliable way to do it.
	Give me one second.
	Dot three.
	Are you connected to that?
	Well, before I'm done, my cross-examination of this witness, I would like to use this video.
	And I will need to make a range of connection.
	Give me one second.
	Hold it up.
	Dot three.
	I would like time to do that before I'm done with cross-examination of this witness, because this is an important exhibit that I intend to use the list.
	Well, thanks.
	Why don't you get on it right away?
	And you know, maybe you can get somebody to testify to this within minutes.
	I don't know.
	So we'll take a break.
	There we go.
	Oh, now I can hear you.
	Should be good.
	Oh yeah, let me pull Skype back up.
	Skype is ready for a YouTube call.
	Sounds good.
	Okay, thank you.
	All right, you want me to dial you up, Eric?
	Yes, please.
	Well, I don't know how.
	Oh, here, okay.
	Oh, no.
	Got it.
	Got 70 seconds.
	Oh, we could do so much in 70 seconds.
	Like listen to another outburst from the judge, I guess.
	You're calm to judge.
	Yeah, about that, huh?
	So good.
	So good.
	All right.
	One minute.
	Okay.
	Why can't I... I'm not kidding, actually.
	It's not showing up.
	Oh, here we go.
	Oh, okay.
	Waiting.
	Coming through.
	What do you wish to come in with?
	It's on channel one.
	Music.
	No, but Wonder Woman or Charlie's Angels first.
	Neither.
	All right.
	Marine Corps.
	Oh, Marine Corps.
	You're right.
	I have the video.
	You've got the video.
	So we're playing through TriCaster.
	I have the video.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Indeed.
	All right.
	So we'll do that.
	Come in with the Marine Corps.
	All right.
	Sounds good.
	Straight in, right?
	You'll play first?
	Straight in.
	Yep.
	Straight in, so no music?
	No music, yep.
	You go straight in.
	in.
	All right.
	Stand by.
	Stay.
	Making sense out of today's news.
	Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Thank you.
	One of the coolest things about working in the White House and afterwards getting the invitations to the White House Christmas party is the Marines who would be there.
	The Marine Corps band playing the standards and we play that tune today.
	A tune that you should recognize if you're an American because we wish.
	Happy 246th birthday to the Marine Corps which was founded of course in a Tavern, yes.
	This is very apposite for the Marine Corps.
	Happy birthday to all the true devil dogs out there.
	Not the woke seditionists like John Kelly and Mattis, but the real devil dogs.
	Happy, happy birthday.
	Let's celebrate together with our West Coast warrior princess, Jennifer Horne.
	Are you there?
	I am here.
	Happy birthday to the Marines and happy Wednesday to you, Seb.
	Happy, happy Wednesday to you as well.
	I don't know, you work incredibly hard.
	Hardest working lady on radio as you also keep, what's his face?
	Grant Stinchfield under control every morning as you're hosting The Morning Answer on AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	However, I don't know what you do after the show airs.
	Have you been keeping a beady eye on the Kyle Rittenhouse trial?
	Is this insane?
	What a couple of twists that we've seen over the last couple of days.
	And you know what?
	What really struck me, Seb, is that we heard about this, obviously, after Jacob Blake and Kenosha in 2020.
	That was the year where we heard about this.
	And the media convicted him on day one.
	They made fun of Ricky Schroeder and all the people who stood up for Kyle Rittenhouse, that they were just a bunch of white supremacists.
	Even the president himself, Biden, called him a white supremacist.
	Do you know what really struck me?
	And I'm almost embarrassed to admit this because you know I keep up with the news like crazy.
	Yes.
	As I was kind of going through as this trial got underway, what was the last week probably, I was just going through and just refreshing everything in my mind and I looked at the victims and the victims were all white.
	Now, Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Don't forget, don't forget.
	White wife beaters and child rapists.
	Don't forget.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you know, I pride myself on staying afloat on most of the stuff, especially these big stories.
	I really try to stay up to date.
	In my mind, he shot at black people.
	He didn't shoot at white people.
	He shot at black people.
	This is why the media convicted him and said he was a white supremacist, because he went in with an AR-15 to go hunting.
	For black people.
	That was the impression that the news media gave us.
	That was what was in people's minds.
	I still think people believe that he shot three black people.
	And he did not.
	Not that this makes it any better.
	A life is a life.
	The kids shouldn't have been out on the street.
	We can go through all the details.
	Hang on, hang on.
	A life is a life.
	I said on my show earlier, you rape children, you should get the death penalty.
	You're right about that.
	The guy who attacked him first, who actually raped children multiple times.
	Bad guy.
	I'm sorry, that's what you get the chair for.
	Capital punishment.
	As far as I'm concerned, Carl Rittenhouse, let's thank him for putting away somebody who was a child rapist.
	Period.
	Yeah, no, I'm with you on that.
	And you don't hear that in the mainstream news media either.
	You don't hear the circumstances around the people who were out there on the streets.
	So I think it's just another reminder today as we watch this trial and we see the judge in the case and we see the prosecution with their Head in their hands.
	I think we remember that a lot of this has to do with how the media portrayed this.
	They're so desperate for a narrative to try to shut people up because they want to call everybody a white supremacist.
	Let's save that for the people who really are.
	Let's stop it for a second.
	This is a really important issue.
	We're talking to Jennifer Horne.
	Follow her right now at Jennifer Horne.
	Also at DJVshow on Twitter and CRNtalk.com.
	Where are the white supremacists?
	So we've been told for years now that America is rife.
	They're coming out of the faucet.
	They're coming out of the power sockets.
	The white supremacists are everywhere.
	So we had a couple of putzes with tiki torches at Charlottesville.
	We had the mentally deranged, medicated person that killed that young lady Heather Heyer.
	Okay, we've got that.
	And then we've got what, Carl Rittenhouse shooting convicted child rapists.
	Where are the white supremacists that we keep being told about, Jennifer?
	I wish we could figure it out.
	I know where they are!
	They're at the Glenn Youngkin rally, paid for by the Lincoln Project pedo-protectors.
	Oh, hang on!
	I just connected two things!
	Isn't that interesting?
	Lincoln Project protects pedophiles like Jack Weaver, with 21 young men, children as well, who he had inappropriate sexual relations with.
	That's the Lincoln Project white supremacist problem.
	With Rick Wilson and his wife's cooler with the South shall rise again written on the cooler with the Confederate flag.
	Oh, and then there's white supremacists like Charlottesville.
	So I think there's a connection here, isn't there, Jen?
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	Everything that the left calls us is exactly what they are.
	We've seen it from conspiracies.
	We've seen it to what they call the people on the right.
	It is just them trying to shut people down and to try to deflect from who they really are.
	And it's disgusting.
	We have got to do a better job of spreading the message.
	I know talk radio does it.
	Thank God for that.
	But when is the news media going to wake up?
	When is the left going to stop trying to brand the right just because they can't articulate facts because they don't have any to bring to the table?
	Yeah.
	Bingo.
	Bingo.
	All right, your job is to tell us what's going on in what used to be one of the most beautiful states of the Union in California.
	The nephew of Nancy Pelosi, Gruesome Houston, has reappeared.
	Do you buy his story as to where he was AWOL and why he was AWOL?
	Seb, this story is so crazy.
	So on October 27th, I had an all points bulletin out for Gavin Newsom.
	On October 27th, he took his booster shot for COVID-19.
	I think he took the Moderna booster shot.
	He's on television, of course, because they have to promote all of that stuff.
	He then disappears.
	Now, cue a lot of people.
	Pardon the pun.
	But cue a lot of people who start hitting the conspiracy button going, wait a second, he hasn't been on television.
	Is he vaccine injured?
	What went on?
	He even canceled his appearance at that climate summit, which seems to be never ending.
	It's like two weeks, three weeks in the making now.
	He didn't go to that.
	He was not seen in Sacramento.
	Well, it turns out his wife, and it was very strange, on Sunday wrote a tweet and said, The truth is the truth and you know basically leave us alone just believe what we've told you and then she took it down and then Gavin Newsom's staffer said, well, yeah, he's been in the Capitol a little bit.
	He's really just hanging out with his kids.
	It was very strange.
	If someone says you're vaccine injured after you get the booster, don't you send out a statement saying, hey guys, I'm fine.
	I'm just taking a week off.
	Why wouldn't you come out and address those rumors?
	Our friend Dennis Prager did a whole hour about this, about how he didn't bring any confidence to people who were afraid.
	And if his job is to sell the vaccine, he didn't do a great job.
	Well, it turns out, he says he was just with his kids, but he was also at the wedding.
	of a woman named Ivy Getty.
	Now Seb, we've talked about Nancy Pelosi.
	Along with who?
	Oh, George Soros was there.
	And I believe there was even a Jerry Brown sighting at this wedding.
	Now, Snopes God love them.
	Snopes has taken videos, which I know that you have all seen, that were put together trying to connect the big power families in California, and they try to poo-poo it, saying that it's not true.
	These relations between Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom and the Gettys.
	Here at this wedding in California, up in the Bay Area, you have Nancy Pelosi officiating the ceremony, Gavin Newsom in the crowd, in a mask.
	And by the way, if you were photographed next to Nancy, you had to be wearing a mask.
	But then the mask came off, and they were partying maskless like the hypocrites that they are.
	And apparently this was a weird wedding.
	They had like a chihuahua in the wedding, that was part of it.
	They also had, because you can't when you're a billionaire like the Gettys are, you can't just have one day of fun on a Saturday afternoon.
	You have to have a whole weekend of wedding activities and apparently it was so ruckus They had to bring in IV drips to revive the crowd after they were all partying it up on Friday night.
	I had a misspent childhood, okay?
	In college I was a little bit wild.
	I never had to have an IV after a party.
	That seems to be the new trend.
	No, I've never had to have hydration.
	Now, I've had to drink a little Henry every once in a while.
	A bottle of water?
	Right, a little water, a cup of coffee.
	Kind of, you know, complicated.
	Throw the coffee down, but never an IV drip.
	But this is like the new trend.
	All these young partiers go out and get IVs.
	And so they have this, you know, usually it's the candy coated almonds, but at the Getty wedding, you get an IV drip.
	Creepy, creepy, creepy, but I guess if Nancy Pelosi is officiating, you're gonna get a lot of creepy.
	We're gonna continue discussing what's going on in California.
	So much news to break.
	The Carl Rittenhouse trial is in recess right now.
	While we're waiting, go and follow Jennifer Horne right now, at Jennifer Horne.
	She is the host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, also CRNtalk.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	We'll be back in a moment.
	We'll be back in a moment.
	We'll be back in a moment.
	I don't know what the deal is.
	Yeah, it looks good right now.
	How old is the appliance that's running the Skype?
	I'm 43, thanks very much.
	Ouch!
	You don't have an appliance?
	The old appliance?
	Gee, I'm a lady, Seb, a lady.
	How old is the piece of equipment?
	Well, it's got a hamster in the cage running.
	I don't know.
	Has it got steam every few minutes until the whistle blows?
	We just added a new hamster, so I think it should be fine.
	Oh, you've got the double hamster model?
	Yeah, you know, turbo powered.
	Oh my gosh, that's Gen 2!
	Let me pull the string tighter on the tin can.
	Hold on.
	Oh my gosh.
	I showed you the picture of the studio I broadcast out of New Hampshire, right?
	Yes.
	Is it like that?
	Is it like that?
	No, you've been in the studio.
	It was great until, remember, we had the power outage.
	That's so funny.
	It looks fine now.
	Could you maybe adjust the camera just down slightly?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Your hair is looking very flouncy.
	Thank you.
	I just flounced it up a little bit because I have my big headphones today.
	How do you flounce?
	What is the object of flouncing?
	Okay, ready?
	Here we go.
	You're going to get to watch a live flouncing.
	Two minutes.
	Wow.
	Just a little that.
	I love that.
	That is excellent.
	Right?
	See?
	You look like Lady Godiva.
	That's what I'm going for.
	I feel like I keep seeing Tulsi Gabbard on Fox News.
	What happened to her grey streak?
	It's still there.
	It's kind of softened up.
	I cannot stand that look.
	We have so many people like our newslady that was in LA that did that for years.
	It's a tad contrived.
	It's trying to look, like, older beyond her years, I guess?
	Like, I'm wise kind of thing, maybe?
	Yeah, because she's not old at all, is she?
	No, she's still, like, in her 30s.
	She's not that young.
	She shouldn't even have gray hair yet.
	I don't have any gray hair.
	I have, like, three.
	She's in her late thirties, I think.
	Let me confirm this.
	All right, fact check, fact check, fact check.
	Fact check.
	All right, everybody seemed down in the dumps when I got here.
	Everybody okay today?
	She's 40 years old.
	Who's down in the dumps?
	Everybody happy today?
	I'm not allowed to be down in the dumps.
	Good.
	What is this?
	What is this nonsense?
	Get back to me after the verdict and then I'll let you know.
	It's always the next thing, Eric.
	Virginia can't be enough.
	What?
	Well, I thought Seb sounded a little down.
	Everybody seemed very serious.
	I was loving that.
	I was watching live when the judge just ripped into the prosecution.
	That was one of the best things I've seen in a while.
	God, wasn't that great?
	It happened twice.
	He kicked the jury out twice.
	Don't get brazen with me.
	That was legendary.
	That's great.
	This is getting thrown out.
	I hope so.
	Absolutely.
	Alright, merch here.
	Oh, poke your head in and say hi to Seb right there.
	Seb Gorka.
	Look it, right here.
	Oh wait.
	In the camera?
	Is it the voice?
	How are you man?
	I am.
	You're fading in and out.
	You look like you're in the transporter room on the Enterprise.
	You're fading in and out.
	Hey buddy.
	He's watching on the Salem News Network.
	Alright, 15 seconds.
	Tell them to dial pound 250 and say Salem News Channel later.
	And the show is being...
	All right, 15 seconds. 15 seconds.
	Standing by.
	Okay.
	Oh, cool.
	All right, stand by.
	Okay, bye.
	Bye.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	We are back with Jennifer Horne.
	She is such a trooper.
	Whenever I... I never tell her to do this, but whenever I come on her show every Tuesday, along with Grant Stinchfield, she says everything about me.
	She does it so professionally.
	It's like honey on glass.
	She talks about the show, the Newsmax, and the merch.
	You're a champ.
	You're a true champ.
	But I haven't told you our latest deal.
	Are you ready for this?
	Are you ready for this, Jennifer?
	I'm super excited, because I love all the merch so far.
	I have a bunch.
	It is the Let's Go Brandon package.
	It is the season's delight.
	Randy, our master of merch, we should call him master of merch, has got this package that you get.
	T-shirt of your choice, Let's Go Brandon.
	You've got the Let's Go Brandon new MAGA hat.
	You've got two Let's Go Brandon yard signs, all for the bargain price of $89.
	How cool is that?
	That is so awesome.
	So you get a shirt, a hat, and the yard sign.
	Two yard signs!
	Two yard signs!
	I gotta sign up for this.
	I told you I'm doing Made in America Christmas this year, so I'm gonna go do some shopping.
	See, she even reminds me that all of our merch is made in America.
	Whatever it is, the hats, the president's t-shirts, the hoodies, the mugs, the turvis tumblers, even the books, all made in America.
	God bless you, Jennifer.
	SebGorkaStore.com is the place.
	Buy American this season.
	SebGorka.
	S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-Store.com.
	Okay, let's get back to California.
	Can you explain this to me?
	You guys have been so well behaved.
	You've got triple-dipple masks.
	You're wearing your rubber gloves.
	You're walking around in your hazmat suits.
	And now from Breitbart, Hannah Blue.
	Masked Up, this is the headline, Masked Up California is reporting Not one, not two, not three, four times more daily COVID cases than Florida.
	How is that?
	Seb, this makes me go insane because I've lived this lockdown for over a year and a half.
	We're like coming up on two years soon enough.
	And we've been locked down.
	We've had businesses shut down.
	We've had schools shut down.
	We've had the courts shut down.
	You want to talk about crime surge?
	You can't even get people into the courts, in and out.
	Everything is backed up because of these ridiculous lockdowns.
	Now, you would think That the ridiculous lockdowns would keep us all safe, right?
	That's what we were told.
	Follow the science.
	Follow the science!
	Do it for your family and your friends and your Aunt Matilda who's in a nursing home.
	Follow the science.
	Well, compare the numbers between California and Florida and you will find that our vaccination rate is higher, we were closed down longer, and we are suffering worse than Florida.
	Now people ask why.
	Well, When these ding-dongs send us home, guess what?
	That's where people are comfortable.
	They're not wandering around with masks.
	Everybody's sitting on top of each other and people are spreading it around at home.
	You also add that to the fact that Florida is focusing on therapeutics and helping get people well.
	Focusing on the fact that the vaccinated can get sick just like the unvaccinated.
	And you have a perfect recipe for what to do compared to California's what not to do model.
	And all of these hypocrites, they don't live the restrictions.
	So it's fully about control and compliance.
	And we have, in San Francisco and Los Angeles, two mandates that are in effect.
	You know I'm officially on protest right now.
	Yes.
	Because L.A.
	City has shut down indoor dining, indoor spas, indoor salons, shopping malls, movie theaters to anyone who is unvaxxed.
	And I haven't, this is since Monday, and you know I don't have much of a life during the week because I get up very early.
	So I'm kind of a shut-in anyway.
	But my dad went out to dinner last night for the first time.
	And he asked if I would make the reservation.
	We run a business together.
	One of our old colleagues was in town.
	And so I made him a reservation.
	And they gave me an option in the reservation.
	I hit outdoor dining.
	I thought we don't need to have a big to-do.
	We'll just have them sit outdoors.
	It's California.
	It's fine.
	So he gets there.
	His friend is already inside the restaurant sitting inside.
	So my dad just blows past, as he kind of does, pretending to know where he's going.
	He blows past and he goes and sits with his friend and they sit down.
	They start having dinner and I guess when he sat down, his friend said, are you vaccinated?
	Is it okay for you to be in here?
	And my dad said, no, I've got the antibodies.
	Cause he gets them checked every week.
	Well, every other week or so.
	He's got the antibodies.
	He's still doing fine after we had COVID.
	A waitress comes over halfway through their meal and says, excuse me, sir, I was just told that someone at your table is unvaccinated.
	We need to move you outdoors.
	Are you serious?
	So they packed him up and they moved him outdoors.
	My dad calls me, he's like, did you write down that I was unvaccinated on the reservation?
	I said, no, I would never.
	It's none of anybody's business.
	So they're eavesdropping on the conversation of diners?
	Somebody, who must be a rat, who must have been sitting around them, must have heard the conversation.
	My dad has a loud, booming voice.
	He's the voice of the Larry Elder Show, if you've ever heard it.
	He's got a loud voice.
	He does.
	And they must have said something.
	No, no, he's got a manly voice.
	He's got a rodeo voice like your voice.
	You guys can't whisper.
	I can't either.
	And so, they kicked him out.
	Can you believe it?
	Okay, I know your dad.
	I'm just shocked he didn't walk out.
	I, you know what, I think if he hadn't been with someone that we do business with and if he hadn't already ordered, he might have.
	But even in Santa Monica, the city is now asking residents there, if they see someone who is breaking the mandate, that they're supposed to dial 3-1-1 on their cell phone and they will notify, are you ready?
	A health ambassador to respond to the situation?
	A health ambassador to rush to the scene to either investigate the business?
	And you know these people are making good money to be health ambassadors.
	They either have to go investigate the business that isn't checking vaccines or they'll track down the person that was seen without a mask on.
	It's Santa Monica!
	It's the beach!
	You can go without a mask!
	This is from the party, don't forget, who's the leader said on inauguration day that he's going to unite us.
	Yes, quite.
	Let's go to some good news.
	You told me in the break, is it true California is having some walkouts, Jen?
	Yeah, you know, even though the recall didn't go through, California is getting our fight back.
	And in LA, at LA City Hall on Monday, firefighters, police officers, and the general public, city workers all showed up because this vaccine mandate is going into effect.
	Police officers are being told not to come to work.
	They're being taken off the job.
	I had several people who were on the show this week who said, That they were basically had to turn in their gun and their badge and now they're off duty.
	20 years after they've been serving on the force, they're kicked off.
	And so 4,000 people in the city of Los Angeles showed up and stood with these city and county workers, including our first responders, stood with them and made a lot of noise.
	Now whether or not it's going to work, whether or not anybody is listening, It made me feel really good and happy that we all stood out there having each other's backs and standing up, not against the vaccine, but against the mandates.
	Yeah, this is a point I heard somebody make.
	I think it was yesterday.
	And it's one we have to use.
	I'm so glad you reminded me about it.
	This isn't about vaccination.
	This has nothing to do with vaccination.
	This has to do with personal autonomy.
	This has to do with the sovereignty of the individual.
	If you think slavery is bad, it's because the slave didn't have bodily autonomy, didn't have sovereignty.
	That applies to all human beings of any skin pallor.
	The question is, do we have sovereignty over our bodies?
	It's not about vaccines, it's about mandatory vaccines.
	Follow this lady right... I always say I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti-mandate.
	Bingo.
	Follow this lady at Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	Also, crntalk.com.
	God bless you.
	If you enjoy our discussions every week, if you like this show, support those who make it possible, especially people like the great Mike Lindell, the inventor of the MyPillow, the pillow that never gets hot, never loses shape.
	51 million sold, they're that good, and Mike's going to give you up to 66% off his more than 150 incredible products.
	Go to mypillow.com, promo code GORKA.
	Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, promo code G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, promo code G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, code G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, code G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, code G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, code G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, G-O-R-K-A. Call 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, code G-O-R-K-A. Call code G-O-R-K-A
	The End
	The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End
	The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End
	Thank you.
	Portions of America First are brought to you in part by Stand With Israel Tour.
	Which is a bigger threat, the climate or China?
	I think we get paid to examine all the threats to our national security.
	And I don't know that it does anybody good to put some sort of relative analysis assessment on that.
	You've heard the Secretary talk about the climate as a real and existential national security threat.
	And it is, not just to the United States, but to countries all over the world.
	And we consider China as the number one pacing challenge for the department.
	Both are equally important.
	A disgrace to the Navy uniform he once wore.
	That is Kirby, the Pentagon press spokesman who just said climate change is a serious threat to China.
	We have a perfect guest to respond.
	He fixed The Veterans Administration as the Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs.
	He has served as Undersecretary of Defense, Colonel in the Air Force, also in the U.S.
	Navy Reserve.
	I heard him speak two weeks ago at an event at the Heritage Foundation.
	He impressed me with what he had to say and now I found out, as he walked in the studio, That he even knows what canine is from Doctor Who when he saw that canine in my green room.
	So that's all the more kudos to this man.
	Colonel Robert Wilkie, welcome to America First.
	Doctor, it is great to be here.
	Thank you.
	So, we can talk about what you had to say about the state of the army, readiness, the deep state in a moment, but let me just share a personal story with you that speaks to that cut from, I won't call him Admiral, I'll just call him Kirby.
	When I was a DoD civilian in the last couple of years in the Obama administration, I was teaching counter-terrorism and irregular warfare and I was asked to To run an index, a culminating exercise for a group of 05s, 06s in billets in the Pentagon whose MOS were strategists and were in strategy billets.
	This was at the height of the Obama administration.
	And I asked them, it was a three-day exercise in a hotel not far from the studio here, and I told them on Friday night, pick the biggest threat to America in your cohorts.
	Saturday work out a strategy to defeat that threat and Sunday you brief me and your fellow colonels on what that threat is.
	More than half of the teams on that Sunday morning told me that the greatest threat to America is the weather.
	These are not kids.
	These aren't West Point, you know, second years.
	These are colonels.
	And now we're hearing it from this administration at the top of, you know, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	How concerned are you as somebody who's fought for the readiness of our troops that politics is now in control?
	Well, it's in control at many levels, and when I heard today what Mr. Kirby had to say about climate change, I thought, well, that suits Admiral Greta Thunberg to a T. Yes!
	And Beijing!
	I'll just give you an example.
	I think that half of the cabinet went to Europe a few weeks ago to pay reverence to her.
	Can you imagine in the Trump administration if I had done something like that?
	But we are missing the next great challenge.
	And the next great challenge is, of course, China.
	And when the spokesman says that it is on par with climate change, then you know, and on top of what the press secretary of the president said, that they're not an enemy or a rival, they're a competitor.
	We're already trying to catch up.
	The tragedy here is that we're not telling the people the truth.
	We face a foe that is incredibly more formidable than the Soviet Union ever was.
	Because the Soviet Union, as you know, was a sclerotic one-dimensional power.
	The only thing it offered the world was kinetic force.
	And also it was a precarious witch's brew of nationalities, which you don't have.
	You have a Han dominance in China.
	So you have a messianic leadership in Beijing, a leader who wants to replace Mao and Deng at the center of the Chinese ethos.
	And you see them moving slowly out into the Pacific.
	They are probing at all levels.
	They've probed against Japan all the way down to Australia and into India.
	And if we don't wake up, we will lose the most important of all the global commons, and that is that part of the Pacific.
	Yeah.
	Frightening, frightening words from a man who knows of what he speaks.
	He is now with the Conservative Mothership, the Heritage Foundation.
	If you want to support an organization that fights every single day for the founding values upon which the Republic was built, Please become a member today.
	Heritage.org.
	We're talking to former Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, a colonel in the U.S.
	Air Force, also served in the U.S.
	Naval Reserve, and an Army Artillery Officer's son.
	Go today to Heritage.org.
	We'll be back with Robin Wilkie momentarily.
	This is America First.
	I'm your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump, broadcasting live from the ReliefFactor.com studios.
	Relief Factor, pain relief that works, pain relief that is real, pain relief that is liberating tens of thousands of Americans from their daily pain.
	People like Leah from Ohio.
	This is Leah's story.
	One Sunday morning I sat on my couch in so much pain I was in tears.
	That's the day I ordered Relief Factor.
	Following directions, in eight days I found relief, only to get better and better.
	I am a believer 100%.
	That should be your story.
	It could be your story, but there's only one way to find out.
	Order the three-week quick starter pack at relieffactor.com.
	It'll be at your door in three days or less.
	Take it morning and evening like I do, and I promise you, Dr. G's guarantee, by the end of those three weeks, you will know whether it works for you like it works for me, Leah, and thousands of your fellow Americans.
	What have you got to lose except the pain?
	Do it today.
	Call 800-500-8384, relieffactor.com. Call 800-500-8384, relieffactor.com. Call 800-500-8384, Call 800-500-8384, relieffactor.com. Call 800-500-8384, Call 800-500-8384, relieffactor.com.
	The President.
	He just said, whatever you need to go.
	How did you survive in bureaucracy given your stance on things?
	Well, I ignored the powers that be in this town.
	What I call the professional veterans.
	Not the rank-and-file, but those groups that are really appendages of the Democratic Party.
	And I walked the post.
	I put people in place who had tremendous military experience, which meant we understood the culture and we spoke the language.
	And I found that when you made things work, a lot of the resistance went away.
	The Obama-Biden administration left VA, and this is according to CNN, not me, with a 37% approval rate.
	Veterans were dying in the halls.
	When President Trump left, it was at 91%.
	We had sent millions into the private sector because we'd finally given veterans full choice.
	They are pulling back on that.
	We had removed the unions as a force within the department.
	They're back now.
	President Trump allowed me to dismiss over 9,000 people who are not doing their jobs.
	That sent a shockwave through the system.
	But in a positive way, because most people are doing things for the right reasons.
	And when they saw that, those who were not performing were held accountable.
	What tools did you use to do that?
	Because we've been told so many times, oh, you can't do that.
	Well, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs has authorities.
	I don't think the Democrats in Congress knew it was giving them to us.
	to do those kinds of things and to go around the traditional civil service barriers to discipline and I had a president who said do it and it was a wonderful thing and had all the traditional enemies come out of the woodwork.
	How did you connect with the president?
	Who was your connection?
	Well, it was his outreach to General Mattis, and Mattis was asked, who do you want?
	Who could do this job?
	So you'd work with him?
	Yes, I was the understanding.
	I was the understanding.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	You You've booked your tickets, am I right?
	Finally, the world is opening up again.
	The trip we had to postpone to Israel this year, it's back on the books.
	We're ready to roll.
	It's the Stand With Israel tour next November 30th to December 9th.
	10 days in the Holy Land with me and my Salem colleague, Dinesh D'Souza.
	If you've never been to the site where our Lord walked the earth, this is your opportunity.
	If you've been before, that's okay.
	Because you've never been with me and Dinesh D'Souza.
	Book your tickets today for the trip of a lifetime.
	Go to StandWithIsraelTour.com or just call 855-565-5519.
	855-565-5519.
	That number again, 855-565-5519.
	Or just go today to the StandWithIsraelTour.com website.
	We're back with the National Security Visiting Fellow at the Center for National Defense at the Heritage Foundation, Robert Wilkie, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs,
	In the break, we were talking about how this beta male Tony Blink in the back carrier for Clinton was literally bitch slapped by the Chinese in Anchorage at the beginning of the Biden administration, as the chief Chinese communist was reading back BLM and Antifa talking points.
	to Blinken and he just sat there as our chief diplomat.
	That's what China thinks of us.
	But don't we have a more serious problem than just incompetent, feckless, weak members of the cabinet?
	I look at this breaking news.
	We have the national security adviser of the Biden administration has been revealed to be the, quote, "foreign policy adviser" in the Sussman indictment that John Durham dropped two weeks ago.
	So the man who's running national security is listed in the arrest documents for one of the key perpetrators of the Russia collusion hoax.
	If we add to that, you know, Colonel Vindman, fake whistleblowers, What's it going to take to fix this rot?
	Let me go back to what you said about Mr. Blinken.
	And this sets up where we are right now and sadly for the next almost three years.
	First of all, this is a fellow that John McCain said was a threat to national security.
	McCain took a step that he rarely took.
	He voted against a presidential appointee.
	He went to the Senate floor and said we cannot let this man near the levers of power.
	The second thing is, he was harangued not by BLM and Antifa words from the Chinese, he was harangued by President Biden's own critique of his country.
	Yes!
	That's what was stunning.
	That's what was stunning.
	And if that had been Richard Nixon, that had been you, Ronald Reagan, The response would have been, we are not going to be lectured by a country that has murdered 100 million of its own people since 1949, and if they can't defend us rhetorically, how do they defend us kinetically?
	Got up from that table and walked out of that meeting.
	Absolutely.
	And Blinken just sat there.
	So it's not just the way our enemies are leveraging the internal weakness of this administration and its ideology and its talking points.
	It's also this rot from the story I told you about the colonels who say the climate is the enemy to Vindman saying on Capitol Hill under oath I was disturbed by what the President was doing, and it was my duty to defend the quote, inter-agency consensus from the President.
	I don't know about you, Robert, but when I got a vote for a President, I didn't see in the ballot Hillary Clinton, President Trump, or inter-agency consensus.
	And by the way, Vindman wasn't elected by anybody, so I'll ask the question again, and I know we could discuss it, and I want you to come back, because we could discuss this for so much longer.
	What's it going to take to get us back to where we were under Reagan, under Trump, to be strong, peace through strength, Robert?
	It's going to take cleaning the argument stables and it starts with the senior leadership.
	And let me get a little technical here.
	And I never got this chance to make these reforms because I left the Pentagon as undersecretary to go to VA.
	In my father's day you could spend almost an entire career without touching Washington D.C.
	You know Fort Bragg.
	You could spend an entire career then on one street, our dead street.
	You just change the color of your beret.
	Coming to Washington was something that real soldiers didn't want to do.
	No.
	That was Mike Flynn's problem.
	He never did before he came to the G.I.A.
	So what we have done is we have created a political class within the officer corps that is detached from the day-to-day functions of the armed services.
	We have to get back... And they're political animals.
	That's right.
	And they're political animals.
	If you look at some of the Joint Chiefs, their progression has been, since the time they were brigadiers, in and out of the Pentagon.
	And they are susceptible to those political winds, never more so than what you're seeing now.
	I just saw where the Marine Corps has offered $145,000 to a new diversity, equity and inclusion coordinator.
	Now that's more than the Commandant makes in a year.
	That's almost what I made as a Deputy Assistant to the President.
	That's right.
	Probably more than that.
	No, I mean 160.
	What's the title again?
	It's Coordinated for Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
	For the Marine Corps?
	For the United States Marine Corps.
	That's insanity.
	But what we're doing is we're getting away from the mission.
	And if you look at this budget, this budget does not keep up with inflation.
	It siphons off, as you said at the beginning, billions of dollars for climate change.
	We would be forced to face China right now with aging F-15s and F-16s.
	We cannot flood the Pacific zone with our submarines as we did in the Reagan administration when someone like John Lehman said, we're going to push the Soviet Union back into its territorial waters.
	We have the blueprint for doing this.
	We were capable of it.
	We were capable of it.
	Right now we need to ring the Chinese with our allies and weaponize.
	Do we need 600 ships again?
	Well, we need close to that.
	How many?
	Close to what?
	Oh yeah, we need at least 400.
	Right now, we have run our ships into the ground.
	And I don't buy the argument that they're more capable than they were then.
	They can fight more adversaries than what ships did in the 1980s.
	Who was it that said that numbers and mass have a quality all of their own?
	That's right.
	They have a quality all their own.
	And we have gotten away from that because we have worn the hulls out.
	This is too important.
	Can you stay with us for a few more minutes?
	Can you close out this hour?
	You know me, guys.
	I eat, dream, and sleep this stuff.
	I love it.
	National Security Grand Strategy.
	If I could, if my employees would let me.
	That's all I talk about for three hours a day.
	But I'm going to exploit it for the next nine minutes with our very special guest in studio, Robert Wilkie-Kernel.
	He is a fellow with the Heritage Foundation.
	Join today.
	Heritage.org.
	This is the Salem Radio Network.
	The Salem Radio Network
	Railey would recognize it.
	It's just the tides of empire.
	Are you a Mackinder, Spikeman fan?
	Brimland?
	Mackinder, yeah.
	That was a great experience growing up to be able to walk into Salisbury Cathedral every morning and sing.
	So how many years were you there total?
	Three.
	That's amazing.
	And what happened to your dad?
	He ended up going back to Fort Bragg.
	He recovered.
	Wow!
	He was badly wounded in Cambodia.
	He was a huge guy, 6'2", 240.
	When we saw him after a year at Tripler, he weighed about 125, 130 pounds.
	What had happened to him in Cambodia?
	He was shot seven times from the top of his knee.
	Small arms fire or shrapnel?
	No, small arms.
	The only thing that saved him was his size.
	Of course in 1970, 6-2-2-40's a big man today.
	Today it's not a quarterback.
	But then it was.
	And he was allowed to recover.
	And what did he do after that?
	He commanded battalion in the 82nd.
	He was G-3 of the division, G-3 of the corps.
	The stuff I'm hearing out of Bragg, the stuff they're telling me, how political it is, it's just...
	And I mean, you know, at the JFK school.
	Yeah.
	The least politically correct part.
	Well, I remember I was there as a child when Carter changed the name, because it was the JFK Center for Special Warfare, and he changed the name to Military Assistance, Center for Military Assistance.
	And now it has the longest acronym in the world, USA JFK SWCS.
	But you notice what's happening in the Pacific.
	They can't trust this administration.
	No!
	The Japanese have thrown away the MacArthur Constitution.
	It was the biggest thing, one of the most gratifying things of the first few months of the administration.
	I mean, first few weeks, after the President so connected with Abe, everybody in the region said, finally, America's back.
	Right.
	We don't have to be petrified about China now.
	Right.
	And we've just pissed it all away.
	Well, it's not just there, but in Europe.
	Hey, you don't tell the prime minister of the United Kingdom who's lost 150 soldiers.
	The End
	From the ReliefFactor.com studios, this is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	He's another truth teller extraordinaire.
	Please, as a personal favor to me, if you enjoy this show, support America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
	He's in the crosshairs of the cancel culture leftists.
	They want to destroy a man who saved New York twice and is still digging for the truth of last November.
	Go today to RudyGiulianiFreedomFund.com.
	Express your appreciation for one of the greatest fighters alive today.
	That's RudyGiulianiFreedomFund.com.
	We're back with a man whose CV is just legendary.
	He served with the U.S.
	Naval Reserve.
	He served as a colonel in the Air Force.
	He's been involved with the Naval Special Warfare Group II.
	If you know what that is, you know what that is.
	If you don't, don't worry about it.
	And he's also been the Secretary for the Department of Veterans Affairs.
	He's now with the Heritage Foundation, Robert Wilkie.
	Let's... Let me interrupt.
	You just had some great bumper music.
	We have the best bumper music!
	Hawaii Five-0.
	For those of us who are old enough, you may not know this.
	Steve McGarrett, the Director of the State Police of Hawaii.
	Who was his mortal enemy?
	His mortal enemy.
	And he appears every year and the last episode has McGarrett finally cornering him and putting him in.
	Tell us.
	An agent of the Communist Party of China named Wofat.
	Wow!
	Throughout that series McGarrett is looking to the Pacific and trying to convince Washington.
	Let's do some real CI guys.
	Go back and watch some reruns of a Y5O to understand.
	There was a time, there was a time when we actually did counterintelligence in this nation.
	Now we use those forces for political opponents in this country that we disagree with.
	All right.
	We've got to get you back.
	It's already been sold to me.
	Done deal.
	We're going to talk strategy for an hour in studio.
	Let's have a light note or a positive note to end our second hour on before we talk to Phil Kirpin about the latest vaccine mandates.
	What is the first thing we do for a second Trump administration?
	Well, the first thing we do for the second Trump administration is clean house at the Pentagon and produce a national strategy that reflects the traditions of America going back to Thomas Jefferson.
	And that is to defend the global commons, that means sea, air, space, and cyber, and to create a ring around communist China with like-minded friends who are looking and begging for American leadership.
	And that goes all the way from India to the Korean peninsula.
	China is surrounded by people who don't like them.
	In our life, well, not in your lifetime, in my lifetime, they fought two wars with India.
	One with Vietnam, which they lost.
	They are now threatening Japan with nuclear incineration.
	They are ready for American leadership.
	We have to survive these next three years.
	And you, we can continue this, we can give our listeners across the nation, millions of listeners, a little bit of homework.
	Just a week ago you wrote a piece on grand strategy for Heritage.
	Yes.
	Okay guys, you heard it, there's your homework.
	Go now, heritage.org, become a member, download his article and then we will continue.
	We will dissect with Robert Wilkie back here in the studio as soon as possible.
	If you aren't familiar with our one-on-one long-form interviews Subscribe to the podcast right now.
	Look for my name, Sebastian Gorka, America first.
	Back with the truth about the vaccine mandates.
	Back with the truth about the vaccine mandates.
	The End
	Back with the truth about the vaccine
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	If you're fully vaccinated and can take your mask off, you've earned the right to do something that Americans are known for all around the world.
	Thank you.
	Greeting others with a smile.
	With a smile.
	Do you recognize that voice?
	Allegedly that's the President of the United States telling a lie, saying if you get vaccinated you don't need to wear a mask.
	We watch members of his administration with their second, third, 48th booster shot wearing their masks.
	It's all very bizarre.
	Let's talk to somebody who has been on the front line of separating not just fact from fiction, but propaganda from the truth.
	He's a regular guest here.
	He is a very, very brave individual, president of American Commitment and the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
	Phil Kirpin, thank you for coming in studio for One on One.
	My pleasure.
	Great to be with you, Dr. Corkat.
	So, Sebastian, please.
	Phil, let's start at the beginning.
	We have time to go through all of, you know, not just the health policy idiocy, the abuse of our bodily sovereignty, but also the economic and psychological consequences.
	But let's start at the beginning.
	You came to my notice Because you were doing something very, very untoward.
	You were daring to question the statistics for COVID fatalities and you were going state by state.
	Last time we spoke was a few months ago.
	Could you give us an overview?
	Somebody just landed from another planet and said, Phil, tell us about the data on COVID deaths in America and cases and What would be your summary, Pracey, as to the problems with how things have been reported to the American people?
	Well, we've decided that, unlike every other disease or condition in the history of the world where we counted deaths that were caused by that disease or condition, for this we count deaths that are associated with COVID, which is quite a big distinction.
	So somebody could have very serious conditions, die of those conditions, but is tested positive for COVID, and then that's added to the tallies.
	Correct.
	And there's some variation geographically, so we don't even have a consistent definition nationally.
	But in a lot of places, the way this works is any death of any cause of death within a certain number of days, it could be 30 days, it could be 60 days, of a positive test goes into the count.
	And it could have been, you know, could have been someone who died in a car accident or of a gunshot wound.
	If there's a positive test within the cutoff, they go in the count.
	Some states exclude trauma deaths, and so they don't have those most obvious ones.
	They're able to exclude them.
	But by and large, we don't have meaningful death accounting.
	And in the older age groups, it's not as much of an issue because most of the deaths in the count did involve COVID, at least as a contributor, if not the primary cause.
	But when you get into the younger age groups, it's a massive, massive difference maker because COVID itself, the virus, is almost never harmful for children or other very young people.
	And in what, in almost two years, we've had maybe five, six hundred fatalities in total for the nation?
	In under 18, yeah.
	It's about 600 in the last CDC count.
	That's awesome.
	CDC has two different numbers just to make it very confusing.
	They've got a death certificate count that's around 600 and they've got a dashboard count that's around 750.
	But if you ask them which one to use, they say the death certificate one is more accurate because the dashboard one gets edited all the time and it's whatever states have submitted and it hasn't been vetted.
	But our CDC director likes to use the bigger Dashboard number, even though her own agency says it's not the more accurate number.
	So in any event, it's a relatively low number.
	But you know, even from that number, the percentage of those deaths that were totally incidental, that had nothing to do with COVID, is pretty high.
	CDC's own analysis of the 2020 pediatric deaths Wow.
	found that 35% of the death certificates had a cause of death that could not in any way be plausibly related to COVID.
	But they don't adjust their numbers for that.
	So when they do the analysis for things like, you know, you know, is there cost benefit?
	Does cost benefit justify vaccination, for instance?
	They use an unadjusted number, even though they themselves have acknowledged that it is not an accurate count of the actual, you know, the cause of death number.
	And that really overstates the benefits of vaccination, because if you have a death that's totally incidental, vaccination won't prevent that death in any way.
	It's irrelevant.
	Talk to us about also, it's not just CDC figures, you found massive discrepancies, or let's put it politely, irregularities in reporting by state authorities, especially New Jersey.
	So what kind of things have you witnessed in the last year, year and a half?
	Well, a lot of states have been caught underreporting or misreporting in a variety of ways.
	The most famous was probably New York State when Cuomo was governor.
	They had such a substantial undercount that the day that Governor Hochul took over, she changed their count by 12,000 deaths.
	She increased the number of COVID deaths by 12,000 because they were underreporting their deaths, which is interesting because we talk about how there's this incentive to overstate deaths to scare people, but there's also sometimes an incentive to understate them to Claim you did a better job than you did.
	Right.
	In a state that's having very bad responses because of whatever policy they chose, for example, sending sick seniors back to homes that cannot care for them, there'd be an incentive to suppress those figures.
	Right.
	What they were doing, they were actually, they were sort of manipulating the data on two fronts in New York.
	So they were, they were misattributing nursing home deaths.
	They were reporting them as non-nursing home deaths, essentially, because by Reporting only deaths that happened physically on the premises of nursing homes as nursing home deaths.
	They excluded all the nursing home residents who were moved to a hospital and died at the hospital.
	And then they said, well, you know, yeah, we might do it differently in the other states, but our overall number is still accurate.
	And then it turned out that wasn't accurate either.
	Right.
	Maybe they were just playing with the numbers.
	Yeah.
	Correct.
	And by the way, Cuomo was not the only governor who did that.
	No.
	The same policy in New Jersey was one of the reasons that Phil Murphy barely hung on for his re-election and the second most powerful Democrat in the state, Steve Sweeney, lost to a truck driver who just basically knocked on thousands of doors and ran a grassroots campaign.
	That was one of the major issues.
	He said, look, Steve Sweeney was King Murphy's court jester, essentially.
	He did nothing while all this was going on.
	And we've got more re-elections next year, but that's going to be a central issue.
	So we have Pritzker in Illinois, who had the same policy.
	We've got Tim Walz in Minnesota, who had the same policy.
	And we have Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, who had the same policy.
	So they've got three Democratic governors standing for re-election who sent highly infectious patients back into nursing homes.
	Now let's try and get, I mean, you are crunching the numbers.
	You've been on top of this, Phil, since the get-go.
	And I have to ask the question, why?
	What are the varieties, the scenarios of why things were under-reported or over-reported?
	Let's deal with one of them.
	Was there or was there not?
	A fiscal incentive to over-report Covid deaths.
	Were their monies accrued from federal sources or elsewhere, which meant a hospital, a healthcare conglomerate would make money out of inflating figures?
	Or are there other reasons?
	Well, hospitals definitely had a big financial incentive to add COVID anytime they could, and I don't think they did so in a fraudulent manner per se, but I think they were incentivized to be as aggressive as they could on attribution, because anytime you had COVID anywhere in a patient's chart, Medicare paid you 20% extra as a 20% bonus under the CARES Act.
	And there was there were also per patient bonuses if you reach certain levels because the way they structured that bailout that's no longer the case but they had a couple of tranches of bailout funds where you need to have a certain number of patients by a certain date and so they had a very strong incentive and so I think one of the things that happened is you know there are a lot of different ways you can set up these tests And some of them are more overly sensitive than others.
	And so there's some strong positives where someone definitely has the virus, they have active virus.
	And then there's sort of these borderline ones where you might have an old remnant or you might have old dead virus or what have you.
	And depending on how you calibrate the test, you can generate a lot of those sort of borderline or sort of, you know, deceptive sort of weak positives.
	And I think all the hospitals basically told their testing centers, give us a lot of positives or we'll find someone who will.
	And I think that's why we had, you know, a lot of the borderline or weak positives were counted because of that financial incentive.
	There is still an ongoing financial incentive from FEMA on deaths.
	If COVID appears on a death certificate, you can get $9,000 towards your funeral expenses.
	And so I think what we may be seeing now is...
	Hang on, a family gets $9,000 from the state?
	Uh, from the federal government.
	From FEMA.
	Wow!
	Yes.
	That's incredible.
	That's more than you get for funeral expenses if your loved one dies on duty in the military.
	That's incredible.
	I didn't know that.
	That's an interesting comparison.
	But, you know, think about the incentive here.
	If you've got a medical examiner who feels in any way justified in putting that down, think of the favor you're doing for the family.
	And so, you know, I think that we definitely have some overreporting because of that ongoing incentive.
	Absolutely incredible.
	Mind-blowing, mind-blowing.
	We're just scratching the surface.
	You've got to follow this man at Kerpen on Twitter.
	K-E-R-P-E-N.
	Dazzling information on what really is going down in America.
	So many aspects of what we are witnessing.
	Fear, A zero risk tolerance culture, the pecuniary, the financial incentives, and of course, just the idea that the more you inflate this, the more power will accrue to the state or to the nation in terms of political power.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios.
	Don't forget to subscribe, not just to the podcast, wherever you get your podcasts, look for my name in America First, but also Our video channel where we live stream the show every day and post all our one-on-one interviews, segments and monologues.
	Go to Rumble.com slash SerbGorka.
	That is the First Amendment alternative to the fascistic YouTube channels.
	Go instead to rumble.com slash S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A.
	The End
	Phil, it's not just the statistics that are problematic and that have been played it's not just the statistics that are problematic and that have been played with, have And
	There's also the semantics, there's the definitional, the rubberizing, the playing with the definitions.
	One of the ones that first struck me was the way case was used, the word case.
	If you talk to medical professionals, If somebody catches a virus and doesn't even know it, but tests positive, they don't call that a case.
	A case, historically in terms of praxis, usage of the word, was an individual who got sick and had serious consequences either in hospital or out of hospital.
	I did a bit of research myself.
	I've looked at medical publications for decades.
	That's what cases meant.
	Under COVID, cases become anybody who tested positive.
	Isn't this another statistical problem?
	I think it's a huge problem.
	And frankly, you know, the World Health Organization, of which I'm not a fan, but at least on this, they have it, I think, right, although no country, to my knowledge, actually follows them on it.
	Their case definition includes pneumonia on a chest x-ray.
	Wow.
	Their case definition includes a positive test and a confirmatory chest x-ray.
	I don't think any country actually follows the official... So that's the requirement.
	That's the case definition from the World Health Organization, yeah.
	And the interesting thing to me about that is when you look at the death data in particular, only about half of the death certificates for COVID have pneumonia listed.
	Fascinating.
	So, you know, is it that some of the people filling them out don't bother to write it because they think it's entailed in saying COVID?
	Maybe.
	But there's also a steep age gradient.
	The youngest deaths are the least likely to include pneumonia.
	And so the pediatric deaths, only about a quarter of the death certificates have pneumonia listed.
	And if you look at prior praxis, if you look at trend lines, if you look at other seasonal maladies, isn't there still... somebody raised this question and it seemed to just drop by the wayside.
	Is there a plausible explanation why nobody caught flu yet last year in America?
	Could this all be wrapped up in misdiagnosis of COVID?
	I don't think it's a misdiagnosis.
	I think that it's a phenomenon called viral interference or viral competition.
	And then what basically happens in the virome when there's a new totally dominant pandemic virus is it sort of elbows the regular ones out of the way because it's more contagious, it spreads more readily, and therefore the other viruses really can't get off the ground in terms of epidemic spread because if somebody gets them they're just they're not going to be able to spread at a rate that's competitive with the dominant virus.
	And if you look kind of at what happened over the course of this pandemic, It actually happened the same everywhere in the world, so it didn't make a difference if people were doing masks or doing lockdowns or doing distancing.
	The order of viruses disappearing and reappearing happened pretty much the same everywhere globally, and that is when COVID burst onto the scene and became dominant.
	All of the other enveloped viruses disappeared.
	Those are the ones that have basically a little bit of shell coating around them.
	The non-enveloped viruses stayed.
	They did not disappear.
	And so the respiratory adenoviruses, which are non-enveloped, and the rhinoviruses and enteroviruses, they were everywhere.
	And they sort of went up and down sort of opposite to what COVID was doing.
	So there was competition, but they weren't They were in the fight, if you will.
	But all of the envelope disappeared until January of 2021, when COVID hit sort of its all-time peak.
	They started coming back sort of one at a time.
	So first the human coronaviruses came back, then the parainfluenzas came back, and then RSV came back.
	And we had really everywhere in the world these enormous out-of-season RSV epidemics.
	It's normally a winter virus.
	We saw it in the summer.
	In the United States, saw it in the summer.
	In Europe, we saw it in the summer.
	Basically in Japan, probably had the biggest summer RSV wave anywhere in the world while they were still masking everyone.
	So it wasn't that masks were let up, that RSV came back, even though some people like to have that theory.
	That doesn't fit with what we saw globally.
	And then finally, the last thing to come back is influenza.
	And that has happened basically in the Indian subcontinent.
	They've now had waves of both flu A and flu B after COVID receded.
	They had about 80 percent of the population got COVID.
	It declined to almost zero.
	And then suddenly flu was finally back.
	And we're seeing it now in most of Africa as well, including South Africa, where it's sort of at normal interseasonal levels for their summer right now.
	And here in the U.S., We're still seeing very, very little flu, but we're off the zero.
	It's not zero anymore.
	There's a little bit now.
	We're seeing lab-confirmed outbreaks.
	Interestingly, both the University of Florida and Florida State University have had them in their athletic teams, and so it may be that the South, which had Which has had the largest percentage of its population now through COVID and out the other side will be the first place we see flu again.
	So there are a lot of theories.
	I think the ones that involve masks or distancing or lockdowns make no sense based on what we've seen globally with this.
	But I think that one of the I think that everyone hates getting the flu, but I actually think it'll be a really good sign when we're seeing flu epidemics.
	That means COVID is weaker.
	That COVID is a regular virus rather than being a dominant pandemic virus.
	We're talking to the president of American Commitment.
	You can follow Phil Kirpin at americancommitment.org.
	Let's talk about a concept that was floated at the very beginning, but then became taboo.
	You could not discuss it, and that is the phrase herd immunity.
	In established medical research there is the concept that a virus has a life cycle and there is a point at which there aren't enough people left to infect who can spread it because they've had it or they've been vaccinated.
	Why was herd immunity, which has been deemed to be a reasonable target to try and achieve in a community, why did it become such a verboten topic so quickly?
	Well, I think that what happened is, and this is wrapped up in all the other issues about denying natural immunity and demanding that everyone get vaccinated, I think that what happened is there was a decision made at the, you know, among Fauci and his cadre, Walensky and the rest of them, that if we admit the truth, if we tell people that once they've had it, they're very unlikely to have it again, or if they do, it'll be mild, and it'll probably be at least a couple of years, and, you know, if we tell people that,
	They will stop listening to us, and they will stop being scared of getting it, and they may even seek it.
	They may live their lives.
	Well, yes, but more to the point, I think that, giving the most charitable interpretation possible, they were scared that people would go get infected essentially on purpose just to get it over with and get out the other side, and they didn't want that to happen, and so, you know, as they've done all along, they decided that a noble lie was better than telling the truth, And in this case the noble lie was that, you know, that natural immunity doesn't work or it is no path out of the pandemic and therefore the only way out is for everyone to get vaccinated.
	That's a very charitable interpretation.
	You're being very super charitable.
	That's the best That's the best I can do in explaining what they might be thinking in a way that doesn't cast aspersions on their motivations.
	All right.
	There are some things that I don't think can be interpreted charitably.
	We'll talk about this in a moment.
	But first things first, super excited, guys.
	We had to cancel it because of COVID.
	But it's back, the Stand With Israel Tour.
	Two weeks in Israel with my buddy, my Salem colleague, Dinesh D'Souza.
	If you want to get out of the house, if you want to travel, if you want to go to the Holy Land to walk where our Lord and Savior walked, you can join us.
	It's next November, ten days.
	Go today, register at StandWithIsraelTour.com or just call 855 5, 6, 5, 55, 19.
	We will see all the sites, the Wailing Wall, the Temple Mount, the Sea of Galilee, the River of Jordan.
	If you've just heard about these or just read them in the Bible, this is your chance to actually physically Join me for the tour, for the trip of a lifetime.
	Reserve your space today.
	Call 855-565-5519 or just go to StandWithIsraelTour.com.
	5 5 5 19 or just go to stand with Israel tour.com that's a stand with Israel tour.com
	music plays
	music
	plays music plays
	music plays
	Phil, you've been very, very charitable to the interpretations of certain so-called health policies coming out of the federal government.
	Does the charitable interpretation, is it plausible?
	Can it be extended over every aspect?
	And I'll focus on one right now.
	So maybe herd immunity was, they want to encourage people not to, you know, to protect themselves, what have you.
	When it comes to children, I find it very difficult to see a charitable interpretation for anything we've seen.
	You've mentioned it yourself, the incredibly low figures of children who aren't sick with something else.
	The conclusion is, if you look at the statistics, they're basically immune.
	They don't catch it, or if they do, they don't even realize it and they get over it.
	So kids are not vulnerable.
	Instead, they have to wear masks everywhere, on planes, in schools.
	I walk past this little pre-K every morning.
	Drives me insane.
	The kids are outside in the sandpit playing with bloody masks on.
	It's child abuse.
	And now we have the, well, we've got the new vaccines and you can do it to five-year-olds next.
	This is science denial.
	They say conservatives deny science.
	But if they're basically immune, Then why are we masking?
	Why are we vaccinating?
	Is there, I'll put it thusly, is there a charitable interpretation for what the CDC, what Walensky, what Fauci, what school administrators are doing?
	I don't really have a charitable interpretation on that.
	I think it's been outrageous.
	Look, I mean, you know, It's not zero risk for children, nothing in this world is, but it is normal risk for children.
	It is no more dangerous for children than any other respiratory virus.
	And so if we are going to subject children to this disruption, to all of these interventions, then logically they would be permanent.
	There's no logical end point because they were never at any more than normal risk.
	And we've been much worse in this regard than the vast majority of the world.
	There's some other countries that mask down to age six, which I think is outrageous.
	Countries like France and Italy and Spain go down to age 6.
	Nobody goes down to age 2 except us.
	Maybe Japan and Korea.
	But no one in the West does.
	Age 2.
	And the World Health Organization actually only recommends masking from age 12.
	They say under that you may want to consider it and they have sort of, you know, wishy-washy language.
	But even the worst and most ridiculous sort of international bureaucrats are less destructive towards children than we've been in the United States.
	Explain that.
	How is the WHO saying 12 and here it's 2?
	Have you identified the source of that abuse?
	The original decision to close schools had a major psychological impact and frightened an awful lot of people.
	And in trying to retreat from that without admitting error, because one of the driving forces of our entire pandemic response has been that the people in charge must never admit error, they said, well, no, actually, it's OK, but there need to be masks.
	And they imbued sort of mystical powers to...
	The idea that a piece of cotton fabric can stop a hundred nanometer virus is something that we would have scoffed at as absurd and medieval and superstitious up until a year and a half ago when it became the accepted wisdom of science.
	And once you've convinced a large number of people that that's the case, that there's this enormous protective effect, You know, a lot of people want it on their children.
	And, you know, the people who don't then have to, you know, deal with the fact that there are loud complainers pushing back on anyone who tries to ease any of this.
	And I think that's why it's been so difficult to extricate ourselves.
	And, you know, what I really had hoped and thought would happen is once everyone in the vulnerable population had the vaccine, if they wanted it, we'd say, OK, everyone can go back to normal.
	Everyone has that.
	But that didn't happen at all.
	Instead, we're at this place now where they've said that They want to vaccinate all the children.
	And, you know, Sebastian, if you look at the FDA's own slide deck on this, and boys in particular, where the risk benefit is, I think, rather ridiculous.
	The slide deck that was presented, the FDA says that for every million boys 5 to 11 that are vaccinated, you can prevent 67 ICU visits.
	57 ICU visits.
	However, you will create 57 additional cardiac ICU visits as a consequence of those million vaccinations.
	So they're talking about a net reduction of 10 ICU visits per million vaccinated boys age 5 to 11.
	And that's only looking at one side effect.
	That's only looking at myocarditis and pericarditis.
	There's always the question of what do we not know?
	What unknown thing could?
	So I think the risk-benefit is completely ridiculous.
	I would not vaccinate children in that age bracket.
	That said, if a parent wants to, we're still talking about very small numbers per million.
	So if they want to, fine.
	That's their decision.
	When you start saying mandates, when you start saying we're going to mask children who don't do it, we're going to continue all of this indefinitely, it really is inhumane in my Or punish children who don't.
	If you're not wearing a mask, you will not be allowed to come to school.
	That's when it becomes inhuman.
	Follow this man.
	Check out all the amazing reporting he has.
	AmericanCommitment.org and at Kerpen on Twitter.
	That's K-E-R-P-E-N.
	If you enjoy one-on-one, please support those who make it possible.
	People like the great Mike Lindell, another truth teller.
	Go to MyPillow.com.
	The left is trying to destroy him, to cancel him, to boycott him.
	Send the fascistic left a message.
	Go today and Mike will give you up to 66% off his line of more than 150 incredible products, including the MyPillow.
	Beloved by President Trump and my whole team.
	Go to MyPillow.com.
	Promo code G-O-R-K-A, or call 800-829-8468.
	or call 800-829-8468.
	That's 800-829-8468, mypillow.com, promo code G-O-R-K-A.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you. .
	The virus.
	The various shots that people are getting now cover that.
	You're okay.
	You're okay.
	You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.
	Really?
	Where is your press secretary today, Mr President?
	She was vaccinated and she's AWOL.
	Why?
	Because she's got the coronavirus.
	Another example of lies, lies and Biden administration health policy.
	We're back with Phil Kirpan.
	He's the president of American Commitment and also co-founder of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
	Just very quickly, I want to talk about the future here, what's happened to the economy in the last two years.
	Comparative analysis is very useful, is it not?
	Not just between different states, you know, a New York vise a Florida, but between what we're doing and what Sweden or Norway are doing.
	What is surprising about how other states have weathered the COVID storm?
	You know, I hate to ever say Bernie Sanders is right, but when I look at what the Nordic countries have done, they've really gotten this right, more so than really any other country, certainly in the West.
	They've taken a much lower stringency approach, and they've eliminated, I think, all restrictions at this point in pretty much all of the Nordic countries.
	And, you know, they haven't had any better or worse outcomes with COVID really than anyone else, which I think just shows that, you know, it's a bad virus.
	People do die from it.
	There's no question about that.
	But the idea that you can stop it or hold it at bay or prevent it by shutting down businesses or schools or limiting people's aid, there's just no evidence that shows that that's the case.
	And so, you know, I originally thought that we would have to sort of weigh out the economic harms of these lockdowns versus, you know, the lives saved benefits.
	But I'm not sure the latter even exists.
	Yeah.
	You're a co-founder of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
	From that angle, from that perch, will you talk to us about what you are witnessing in terms of the economy in America?
	And as a result of governors pushing back, like DeSantis and Abbott, are we going to see a permanence to a bifurcation?
	There'll be free states that are opening businesses, that aren't restricting schools, and there are others like New York that will continue their draconian policies.
	Is that possible?
	Well, we still have an enormous divide in economic performance between the blue states and the red states, and there's a big gap in employment that has not closed even as the blue states have substantially opened.
	And, you know, the red states got a huge head start on reducing the unemployment bonus benefits.
	They ended it basically in June and July.
	It didn't end until September in the blue states.
	And, you know, the big question mark.
	And so we continue to see this divergence in performance where the red states have been much stronger economically.
	You know, the big factor holding them back has been labor shortage.
	There are health wanted signs literally everywhere, you know, even with some people coming back after some of those benefits were scaled back.
	And by the way, if this federal reconciliation bill passes, that's going to get much worse everywhere because they're massively increasing welfare benefits across a whole suite of things, housing and child care and health care.
	And, you know, when you add lots of additional welfare benefits, there's a strong work disincentive associated with that.
	So if that passes, we'll see another contraction of the labor force.
	But I think the huge question for sort of the divergent paths of the states is if we have another COVID winter, Which we may or may not.
	I don't think anyone knows for sure.
	But if we have another COVID winter, will the northern states shut things down again?
	Or did they learn a lesson?
	Because remember, they told us that, oh, it's not the lockdowns.
	It's the virus that hurts things economically.
	That was completely false.
	Florida in the summer had probably the worst COVID wave we've seen anywhere since the original COVID wave in New York and New Jersey.
	And because they kept everything open, there really wasn't any economic harm associated with it.
	And so the economic harms all come from the policy interventions.
	And we've got to see whether they learned their lesson or not.
	I'm somewhat pessimistic that we will see another wave of lockdowns and restrictions in some of these blue areas.
	Well, I think you're justified in being pessimistic because of the misrepresentation.
	If you look at the mainstream media, if you look at politicians in these democrat states, with all these people who are refusing the vaccine, who work for the state or federal government.
	They continue to use the phrase, Phil, anti-vaxxers, and it has nothing to do with anti-vaccine, in my opinion.
	This is anti-mandate, and there is a difference between the two.
	And also, it's not, and the other thing which my doctor, my personal physician, highlighted for me, and there's like a bolt from the blue, you know, Damascene moment.
	It's, it shouldn't be a question of whether or not you're vaccinated.
	The metric is, are you immune or not?
	If you've had the COVID, like I have, I have more immunity than any artificial vaccine can provide me, but this is something that you're not allowed to discuss.
	Almost every other country that has some sort of vaccine passport or vaccine tracking system accepts proof of natural immunity as a substitute.
	The United States will not.
	And as I said, I think it's because they think if they do that people will go get infected on purpose and they don't want that to happen because there's no, on the merits of it, there's no reason for it.
	And they've published some really embarrassingly shoddy Science to try to defend the idea that vaccine immunity is superior to natural immunity.
	The design of this most recent one from the CDC is so odd that I'm not even sure what it's really measuring.
	It was such a self-selected, non-representative group.
	It was among hospitalized patients who were hospitalized.
	They created a definition that was like respiratory symptoms Or diarrhea, or a couple other things.
	They created this definition of a hospitalized population.
	Then they said, in this hospitalized population we've defined, having prior infection was more common than having the vaccine.
	And I don't know what, that tells you nothing about the general population.
	Because there's no reason to think that hospitalized population is representative.
	So it was a very bizarre methodology to try to prove what they claimed it proved.
	Where do you stand now on things coming out of CDC.gov?
	Do you have to be triple, quadruple checked?
	Well, I mean, I've now spent an awful lot of time on that website, and I would say that, generally speaking, the datasets are well-maintained and useful, but all of the written material is more likely to be wrong than right.
	The recommendations, the guidelines, and so forth, and often completely unsupported by the actual statistical data.
	So it's almost like the people who write the narrative guidance and recommendations don't Review the statistical data because they seem to be disconnected.
	But I'll tell you, you know, one of the exercises I did a few months ago is I went through the website of just all the crazy things they recommend that no one ever followed.
	You know, like they say that men should have no more than one alcoholic drink, sorry, women should have no more than one alcoholic drink per day and men can have up to two.
	With regard, in connection to COVID?
	No, no, no, just in general, CDC guidance that people have always disregarded.
	You know, things like that.
	Their Zika guidance is still in effect.
	So, for instance, because of Zika, almost everywhere in the United States that's on their Zika map, they say their official guidance is that you should use a condom every time you have sex for the duration of pregnancy.
	Oh, my gosh.
	That's insane.
	So when people say, when will they end their COVID guidance, I say, I don't know, when will they end their Zika guidance?
	Because they haven't ended that yet.
	Incredible.
	And the pronouncements of Fauci, where do you stand on a man who said no masks, masks, triple masks?
	Is this a guy you just ignore?
	Well, I think that, uh, I think he's perjured himself on multiple occasions, uh, and I think that his role in funding the lab in Wuhan, uh, should ultimately be referred for criminal investigation.
	And so I think that given what we know about his role in all of this, he certainly should not be someone who's viewed as an expert.
	He's someone who should be viewed as the suspect.
	Oh my gosh, now there's a title.
	Not an expert, a suspect instead.
	The End
	Looking forward, Phil, what happens next time?
	You know, there'll be COVID-23 or there'll be a new virus, man-made or not, or tweaked or natural.
	Having really followed this closer than almost anybody, What is America's reaction going to be?
	And are most Americans going to say, well, sorry, you know, you betrayed me last time?
	What is COVID Redux going to look like, Phil Kirpin?
	Well, I think that this is sort of the central fight that we need to have over the next couple of years is we cannot let the same people who botched this whole pandemic response write its history.
	Because if they do, they'll be the heroes, and they'll position themselves to do it again next time.
	And we've really got to make sure that people understand that we did not sacrifice and suffer and endure for some great benevolence, or for some great higher purpose.
	We did it really for no reason at all.
	We did it because we were misled.
	And we need to Never allow that to happen again.
	So is that the book you're writing next, Phil?
	I should.
	It would be a good idea.
	I heartily endorse that.
	What do you think the American response will be?
	Will it be when Fauci number three says, COVID-24 is here, Are Americans going to self-segregate into, ooh, I got my box of masks here somewhere, and those who want to live free, or will there be more of a, how do they say that, a kind of inured, a nation inured to all of this?
	You know, I think we're at a point now where, in most conservative places, they would disregard that sort of a pronouncement.
	And by the way, that's not necessarily a great thing, because the next one may be much more virulent, and it may have different characteristics, such that you might want to listen to that, but it's too late, I think, in conservative areas.
	In more liberal areas, as it stands right now, I think at the drop of a hat, they'll go back to all of it.
	You know, in a bad flu season, they'll go back to the masks and the distancing and all of it, because they've not learned that it wasn't justified.
	And so I think that's actually the fight we need to have over the next year going into the elections next year, particularly in the places where lockdown governors are running for re-election.
	We need to make that case and prosecute it and make it politically damaging to support these policies so that they don't come back.
	And the one thing that I've learned, I'm sure you would concur that what the last year and a half has taught us is that we have, sadly, in America, a yawning chasm in terms of the lack of courage we have shown as a nation.
	It shouldn't have been one bar owner in New Jersey and a restaurateur in California who stood up It should have been tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of businesses who said, no, I get to feed my family and my employees get to feed themselves.
	So guys, there's one lesson we have to learn.
	It's, well, what does the left say about abortion?
	My body, my choice.
	Time for a more robust attitude to threats and to understand that Death will come for us all and fear of death cannot be allowed to circumscribe our freedoms as the greatest nation on God's earth.
	Thank you so much, Phil, for really, you know, standing up for the truth for months on end.
	Please follow this man on Twitter at Kerpen, K-E-R-P-E-N, and also at his organization American Commitment, American Commitment dot O-R-G.

▲