All Episodes
Nov. 9, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka
02:51:36
Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Rittenhouse case collapses; Biden says ignore court order
| Copy link to current segment

Time Text
Behind me stands a wall that encircles the three sectors of this city, part of a vast system of barriers that divides the entire continent of Europe.
Thank you.
From the Baltic South, those barriers cut across Germany in a gash of barbed wire, concrete, dog runs, and guard towers.
Farther south, there may be no visible, no obvious wall, but there remain armed guards and checkpoints all the same.
Still a restriction on the right to travel.
Still an instrument to impose upon ordinary men and women the will of a totalitarian state.
Yet it is here in Berlin where the wall emerges most clearly.
Here, cutting across your city, where the news photo and the television screen have imprinted this brutal division of a continent upon the mind of the world.
Standing before the Brandenburg Gate, every man is a German separated from his fellow men.
Every man is a Berliner forced to look upon a scar.
President von Weizsäcker has said that the German question is open as long as the Brandenburg Gate is closed.
That is a speech made less than A year and a half before that wall was physically torn apart on this day in history.
Yes, November the 9th, 1989, 32 years ago, Ronald Reagan, affected with the help of Prime Minister Thatcher and St. John's.
John Paul II, the greatest victory without ever firing a shot.
And we celebrate that victory today.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios of the Salem Radio Network, just outside the insalubrious, fetid swamp that is Washington, D.C.
And here are those immortal words, cut ten.
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
I remember the consequences of those words.
I was a young man.
I was 19 years old and I watched on television as people who were unarmed went up to the Berlin Wall with the guards, with their loaded AK rifles, with hand tools,
They started to dismantle the wall that had been put up there in 1961.
A wall that didn't just separate free Europe from communist Europe.
A wall which was so evil in its erection that it separated German families.
Yes, the wall went down streets and literally separated brothers.
From fathers, cousins from cousins.
Because that's what the ideology of the Soviet Union and its satrapy, the East German state, required.
And from the beginning of the Cold War, from the Berlin blockade of 1948-49, right up until that chilly November night, it was a clear night but it was a cold night, We had a Cold War.
A Cold War in which I grew up.
A Cold War which saw the West, the civilized world, pitted against an ideology which promised paradise but actually produced hell.
How do we know that?
Just read the accounts.
Talk to those who lived under it.
People like my parents, who suffered first as children under Nazi occupation during World War II.
A Nazi occupation which, as in so many other countries of Central and Eastern Europe, was simply replaced with another form of dictatorship.
Families like my own that suffered were persecuted by Communists.
My father arrested.
Tortured, imprisoned by the secret lease of a regime that was genuflecting to the Kremlin.
Read the works of left-wing authors like Stephen Courtois and the historians of the left who brought us the Black Book of Communism.
A tome that will go down in history as perhaps one of the most important accountings of the true cost of Karl Marx's Das Kapital.
Chapter by chapter, those historians catalogue the crimes, the cost of communism and socialism across the globe, from countries like my parents' Hungary, to Poland, to the Soviet Union, to Vietnam, to North Korea.
And a tally is given at the end of that work.
A tally of the human cost.
Not those who were denied an education, had their businesses stolen from them, or who were tortured physically in prison or in gulags.
No, just one figure.
Those who were killed by the ideology of the worker's paradise.
According to those authors, those social scientists who aren't conservatives, the tally was 100 million human souls who were killed, who were shot, who were tortured to death, who were starved like the 8 million Ukrainians starved to death by Stalin's wonderful collectivization of agriculture in the Soviet Union.
People like Mao, who killed tens of millions of his own people.
Pol Pot in Cambodia, who affected the death of more than a quarter of his fellow Cambodians in the name of the Khmer Rouge.
It is perhaps one of the greatest victories, it is the ultimate victory in the sense of Sun Tzu, the arch strategist of China.
To win a war without fighting.
Because on that cold November night, not one shot was fired across the Berlin Wall.
Not one shot was fired across Checkpoint Charlie.
Yet the East German border guards raised the barriers that allow the East German slave residents To walk across the border into West Berlin.
To be reunited with their long-lost family members.
We celebrate that.
We celebrate Reagan, Thatch and St.
John Paul.
But now, given that perspective, we redouble our efforts.
Why?
Because the communism of the East may have been routed on that cold night exactly 32 years ago.
But now it's here, on America's shores.
It didn't arrive at the end of an AK-47.
Or a Russian T-Series tank.
It arrived through our schools.
Through our political party, known as the Democrat Party.
How ironic, as democratic as the Democrat Republic of North Korea.
Through our teacher training colleges.
Through our media.
And through our social media oligarchs.
The victory in Virginia is just the beginning.
Now it's up to every single one of us, wherever we live, to stand up to those who would strip you of your rights in the name of some improbable and impossible paradise on earth.
What are you doing about it?
Are you politically engaged?
Are you going to help take back the republic?
Because every breathing patriot has a role to play.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, and this is America First.
America First
Mic's on.
It's good to do that, I think, to recognize these things, like you always do.
On the anniversary, because I had no idea.
Yeah, I don't think people do it enough.
Like, even with as much news as I read, when you sent it back, I was thinking, I'm like, why the hell is he asking for that today?
Right.
And then I looked it up.
Dan didn't mention it.
I'm like, oh, it's the anniversary.
But no, but even these websites and stuff.
America First, hold please.
America First, hold please.
You'd think Twitter and Facebook would give an alert, but... Yeah.
Yeah.
Not quite.
Three minutes. - Yes.
Are we calling him?
He's calling us.
I actually remember one time I was coming back from break from school.
Yeah?
And on the drive down, I listened to the entire Brandon Burgate speech.
Oh, cool!
And I must have been the most annoying person when I got back, because, you know, it was like a... People were getting together for the night, and I'm just like, we don't appreciate this enough.
And I sat down and went on like a tirade for the next 30 minutes about that.
Did you give a little lecture to all your buddies?
Okay, fine.
It's good, though.
It's good to get goosebumps every time you hear that.
Standing before the brand new Birkin.
Every man is a Birkin winner.
Less than a year and a half later, boom.
America first home plate.
Hi, what's your name?
Call board is fly it off.
- All right, what do you wanna say? - 80 seconds. what do you wanna say? - 80 seconds.
Alright, hang on.
He's on Twitter, right?
Yeah, Oliver L. North.
One minute.
Thank you.
And Eric, everything should be in order for the video as of the start of the show.
It's weird, though.
A couple really weird things happened, but it's because it was a download.
Yeah.
It was a raw file.
All right, 30 seconds, and we've got Stan with Israel.
Yeah, standing by.
Standing with Israel.
Standing with Israel.
Standing with Israel.
This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
Well, we did it, guys.
Guys, we have planned and planned and planned and we have re-established our Stand with Israel tour.
Yes, the one we had to cancel because of the, you know, the thing that came from the Wuhan.
It's happening next November.
Ten days in the Holy Land along with my buddy Dinesh D'Souza.
I mean that isn't just That's a reason enough to come.
Me and Dinesh, 10 days with you in the sites, walking the ground that our Lord walked.
If you haven't been, you've got to join us for the trip of a lifetime.
Register today.
Call 855-565-5519.
If you want to get out, if you want to travel, if you've never been to Israel, to the Holy Land, now is your opportunity.
The trip of a lifetime.
Reserve your tickets today on 855-565-5519 or just go to thestandwithisraeltour.com.
That's thestandwithisraeltour.com.
Somebody who I think should join us is One of my favorite Marines.
I love all our Marines, but especially Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, former member of the National Security Council staff, holder of the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, and the Purple Heart.
Colonel North, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Seb.
By the way, I just heard your plug for a trip to Israel.
Betsy and I led dozens of those over the many years that we've been Hanging together for, actually, 53 years this week.
This week?
Happy anniversary!
You know, I'm very proud of my situational awareness, but it's not a flower that grows in every garden.
And on our last trip over there, just before COVID, we're in the David Citadel Hotel in downtown Jerusalem.
It's right in front of the safe house that William Paul Good, That was the name that was on my passport with my picture in it.
Used to use the safe houses right behind the hotel.
And we're there, and I see a tour bus come in in front, and I tell Betsy, we're waiting for another couple to come down.
We're going to go to dinner with some Israeli friends.
And she's looking at the elevator.
I see the tour bus come in.
I tap her on the shoulder and say, that bus is full of gringos, and we're going to get mobbed here in a minute.
And she said, how do you know?
I said, because I have great situational awareness.
And of course, she's heard it so many times over the years.
First guy off the bus walks right over to me, looks at me, and he says, anybody ever tell you you look a lot like Ollie North?
And I said, well, it's a good thing I look like Ollie North, because I'm sleeping with his wife.
And at that point, the guy says, you better watch yourself.
He'll kick your butt.
He's a U.S.
Marine and walks away.
And Betsy, Ollie North's wife looks at me and says, didn't see that one coming, did you, Mr. Situational Awareness?
So, look, it's a great trip.
I encourage all of your listeners to join that trip because it's something every American ought to do at least once.
They're our closest allies, probably anywhere east of America.
There's no doubt that we're counting on.
And now, as we're coming up to Veterans Day, it's revealed we're buying Iron Dome systems that we jointly developed with them to bring down the possibility of one of these hypervelocity aircraft zipping around, dropping a nuke on Washington.
Yeah.
So we're about to acquire the weapons system that we helped develop.
If you haven't been, you must.
You heard Colonel North do it today.
Join me and Dinesh D'Souza.
Go to StandWithIsraelTor.com.
That's StandWithIsraelTor.com.
I don't know who rehearsed this.
And by the way, happy anniversary to you and Betsy.
That's fabulous news.
I don't know if we rehearsed this.
That was just happenstance.
So I don't know if you heard my monologue.
I opened this show by playing President Reagan, the man you served.
I played a clip of his Brandenburg Gate speech because today, of course, is the anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall.
And you've got this new book out, which couldn't be titled better.
It's called We Didn't Fight for Socialism.
Americans veterans speak up.
And I just want to run by you the last sentence of my monologue, Colonel North.
I said, Reagan, Thatcher, St.
John Paul defeated the Communist threat without a shot being fired across Checkpoint Charlie.
Is it too much to say that the threat we defeated then is now here on our shores?
It's in America, Colonel North?
Well, look, the guys who were burning their draft cards before 1973 are now running America's media, they're running their colleges, universities, they're running their think tanks all over the place.
They've got to actually be a little bit chagrined, because once the draft cards stopped being issued, which was 1973, they'd already burned theirs.
They ought to keep it as a memento.
Of what was done to create the finest military we've ever seen.
And the idea that, you know, there were people back in 1973, when Nixon did this, that said, oh gosh, the bottom's going to fall out, we can't draft people anymore.
The fact is, today, we have the finest military that has ever existed.
It's a matter of national security that we back them up, not just on Veterans Day, but every day.
And there needs to be the kinds of respect for them that, quite frankly, doesn't exist in many places.
So my encouragement is make sure that you sign on for the trip, but make sure that you do something for a veteran on Veterans Day and think of what can I do to help you when you see a veteran.
If nothing else, say thank you for your service.
And when you hear the reports of the political correctness being rammed down the throats of our service members, yesterday we played the footage of a transvestite veteran, a man in a skirt, christening the newest naval vessel, the USS Harvey Milk.
Does your heart not bleed for what's happening to your beloved military colonel?
Yes.
And in fact, it's not only bad for our military, it's dangerous to the national security of the United States.
Because that all-volunteer force out there is being pushed into doing things that are very woke.
I semi-joke and say, it's time you woke up, Seb.
The fact is, our military is being led by people who actually believe Yes.
that America is an impressive country.
Our military is led by three and four stars who were selected for brigadier general by the Obama administration.
And that's why this kind of thing is happening.
Milley, every time he opens his mouth on this kind of issue, it pains me to think of what it's doing to distract people from the reality of defending this country.
As you know, Seb, Communist China is not just an adversary.
They are our enemy.
And they're doing everything in their power to prepare themselves for war.
What are we doing?
We're requiring people to... I don't know what the quota for people that are LGBTQ, whatever it is now, but I'm sure that there is a quota for it.
And the fact is it's disruptive to the morale and effectiveness of the armed forces of the United States.
All we can do is pray that we can do 49 more times what we did in Virginia here on the 2nd of November.
Yes, indeed.
Follow this man right now at Oliver L. North on Twitter.
The book is We Didn't Fight for Socialism.
He's going to stay with us for one more segment.
But Colonel North, in the last minute we have here.
You worked in the Reagan White House, and that was after the malaise, the disaster of the Carter years.
Give us some good news.
With leadership, even what's happening in our military, even what's happening around the world, with requisite leadership out of the White House, things can always be turned around.
Haven't you witnessed that?
Absolutely.
In fact, Ronald Reagan is the best example of it.
And Seb, I'm 78 years old.
I was born when Roosevelt, not Teddy, but FDR was president.
And so I know what it was like when we were in the military under Carter, and we watched the budget being cut, Rudy, by 15% each year for four years.
And Ronald Reagan turned it around.
And delivered on the promise that the all-volunteer force was going to be the best in the world, and it is today.
So the good news is we start things turning around next year.
We elect a Congress, both House and Senate, that will put the brakes on this craziness from this administration.
The Congress doesn't have to fund it, and we, the people, The first three words of our Constitution.
We the people are going to stand up just like we did in Virginia and make sure that we put a Congress in place that by 2024 we can elect a Ronald Reagan.
We did it in the Commonwealth.
We have to do it everywhere else.
back with Colonel North after these messages.
The End
All over North.com And then you'll give the details of the deal, right?
Sure.
Well, happy anniversary!
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's a great week to have an anniversary.
The kids will ask mom, how did you put up with it for so long?
And her answer was, he was gone half the time.
Yeah, you were gone a lot, right?
Yeah, it's true.
I missed half our anniversaries.
Wow.
I'm trying to do better, OK?
I always try what you did in Israel, but it never works.
I always say, no, I just look like Gorka.
And when they hear my voice, it's like, oh no, it's him!
You're burned.
I'm burned.
I don't have my alias.
And the fact that you're taller than everybody else with you doesn't help either.
Yeah, but nobody knows that.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody said, hey, you're much taller than I thought, I'd have a lot of dollars, I'll tell you that.
Well, I get the opposite now because I've lost almost two inches now from all back injuries in the surgery.
Oh my gosh.
I was six even I'm now 5'10".
Are you serious?
You lost two inches?
Yeah.
Ouch.
Two whole inches.
Well, you know, more time in hospitals than I care to admit.
Yeah.
If I was half as smart as I pretend to be, When I would see something bad happening, I'd say, God help me.
The next words I'd hear in my ear is, duck now.
I didn't duck fast enough.
Did you ever know the greatest boss I ever had from the Marine Corps?
He was a PM with the CIA for a few years as well.
Colonel Nick Pratt.
Did you ever come across him?
Oh, sure.
Oh, yeah.
He was a great, great friend.
Nick was an amazing guy.
He was.
Absolutely right.
We lost him far too early.
Great faith, great Catholic, great patriot.
And we just lost him far too soon.
Oh yeah.
I worked for him for four years.
He's another guy.
I lost a good friend like that.
Tom Hemingway.
And he and Pratt were buddies.
Yeah, the thing about Nick is Nick defeated cancer, and then within a month, the flu and pneumonia took him.
It was tragic.
Because of the chemo.
Yeah, the chemo.
Exactly.
That's what does it.
Yeah.
And he was one of the fittest guy.
When I worked for him in Garmisch, Nick lived three miles away.
He would lung laugh.
He would cross-country ski to work every day.
Yeah.
He was that kind of guy.
Yeah.
Yep.
We've got a bunch of those kinds of guys.
And a great leader too.
not he was not just a great staff officer he was a great leader oh totally totally you know when i found out one day all the crap he had to deal with and he never let any of it roll down to us he just wanted us to do our jobs teach our ct course and all of this stuff we never even saw it because nick just never let it get close to us that's who he was he deflected it yeah deflected it with his shield before yeah yeah we had no idea he was fighting with osd all the time and we never saw any of it.
Well, yeah.
30 seconds.
You had the great pleasure of serving with a great guy.
Oh, a hero.
Standby, 20 seconds, and we are back.
Merch Relief Factory.
Yes.
And you let me know when you want to cue that liner that I put together.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Stand by.
All right.
are brought to you in part by Stand With Israel Tour.
I think that clip of Reagan's incredible Brandenburg speeches, well, it's stimulated so many of you.
The calls are coming in thick and fast.
Only one line left open.
We've got people who are going to share with us their experiences of working in Berlin in the 70s.
We're going to get to all of your calls.
Don't go anywhere.
Jeff, Doc, JR, everybody else, if you want to share your memories or just reminisce about what the Cold War victory means to you, call us on 833-33-GORKA.
That's 833-334-6752.
83333 Gawker.
That's 8333346752.
And if you want to share your patriotism with your fellow Americans, especially after that amazing victory in the Commonwealth, Check out our America First merchandise.
All the America First gear you could ever need.
It's the holiday season.
Get ready for Christmas.
Everything on our website is made in America.
Check them out.
SebGorkerStore.com, especially the most popular.
It's head and head.
We spoke to Randy today.
The t-shirts that we made for the president when he came on the show that say, Don't
be woke because only losers are woke people love those t-shirts with the president on them and almost even more popular potentially are the let's go brandon t-shirts the let's go brandon yard signs and the let's go brandon hats check them all out right now buy them for your loved ones sebgorkastore.com that's s-e-b-g-o-r-k-a sebgorkastore.com we are back with the one and only
Colonel Oliver North.
He is, of course, a former NSC staff member.
He is a Silver Bronze Star Purple Heart holder, and he is the author of the latest book, along with David Goetz, We Didn't Fight for Socialism.
Colonel North, explain to us why you wrote this book and why you wrote it now.
Well, we wrote it because both David Goetz and I are Marines.
Both David Goetz and I have interviewed thousands of Marines.
And these are not just marine commentaries in here.
I mean, if you look at the... I hope they sent you a book.
And if they didn't, I'll make sure that they do.
But if you look at the ten chapters that are laid there, plus the postscripts, those are all people who came to us and said, you've interviewed us before, sometimes on the battlefield, sometimes for a documentary.
We want to talk about what's gone wrong and why, and this is frightening, why so many of us are not recommending for our children That they join the armed forces.
And it's all in this book.
I mean, the book is about socialism.
And by the way, two things.
Number one, Ronald Reagan's line in that speech at the Brandenburg Gate Was Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall, okay?
So that line was deleted from his speech at least five times by the State Department.
It was almost a dozen times, Colonel.
Almost a dozen times.
And the State Department tried like that Dickens to make sure he didn't say it.
Thank God he did, because it was predictive.
I'd sat in on one of the briefings for the President dealing not with that only, but with how to deal with the Soviet Union.
And it's still true today.
He was told by the National Intelligence Officer for the Soviet Union, this is in 1984, in ten years the Soviet Union will no longer exist.
Well that's 1984.
He was off by a couple of years, but the bottom line of it is It's gone.
And Putin is dealing with this.
He's rattling his saber.
He's bragging about the fact that we let him build that pipeline.
And he knows he's making money on it.
The Soviet Union for years has exported nothing but women and weapons.
Okay?
Nobody emigrates to the Soviet Union.
The birth rate in the Soviet Union is today 1.25 live births per couple.
That's unsustainable.
There's no way to recover from that birthrate.
And so, Putin is governing a dying nation.
That's what gave Ronald Reagan confidence.
There was no way they were going to build anything that could compete with SDI.
Which, of course, his critics called Star Wars.
The bottom line of it is, Ronald Reagan... I can say this, Seb.
I'm 78 years old.
He is the finest president of my lifetime.
And the fact is, he's the guy who turned around not just the stuff that Carter had done, but a lot of the wimps before him.
If you look back, we've had some great presidents.
There's no doubt about it, and thank God we did.
Because this nation has faced some very serious issues.
Right now, our nation is being put into very serious condition by this administration.
The things that they are doing, domestically and internationally, are dangerous.
We've got 30 seconds left.
You are the counter-terrorism coordinator in the NSC for President Reagan.
Are we more dangerous now than ever because of who's in the White House?
We are in much greater risk, and largely because of the way they handled this disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Yeah, absolutely.
And our credibility has been tarnished.
By the way, the guys in this book dealt with that.
Let me just tell your listeners, if you want to beat Amazon's price, I'm whispering because I don't want them to shut me down.
Tell us the secret!
If you want to beat the Amazon price, go to OliverNorth.com and order it there, and it's even less than Amazon.
Okay, let's not give that guy, that short, bald guy, what's-his-name, Bezos, any more money.
Go right now to OliverNorth.com.
Get this for Christmas.
It's We Didn't Fight for Socialism by Colonel Oliver North and David Goetz.
Get it today.
God bless you, sir, and happy, happy anniversary.
To you and Betsy.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Your call is next on 833-33-GORKA.
That's 833-334-6752.
From the reliefactor.com studios.
Reliefactor.
Pain relief that works.
Pain relief that's real.
Pain relief that is liberating.
Tens of thousands of Americans from their daily pain.
People like Reggie from Florida.
This is Reggie's story.
I have a lot of pain from aging and after only four days of using Relief Factor, I'm already experiencing less pain and stiffness.
Can't wait to see how I feel in a couple more weeks.
Relief Factor is a blessing sent by God.
Incredible words.
Find out for yourself.
There's only one way.
Go to relieffactor.com.
Order the three-week quick starter pack for just $19.95.
That translates to less than a dollar a day.
What can you get for less than a dollar a day?
I tell you what.
Potential liberation from your pain.
What are you waiting for?
What have you got to lose except the pain?
Call today, 800-500-8384, relieffactor.com.
www.fema.org
Mic's on.
And next up...
Title for that one and/or the monologue.
Um, oh, you don't have the new hat image for the merch?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
I did.
And then MTG now, right?
Okay.
for you to maybe specifically mention the hat itself.
I did.
Oh, okay.
And then MTG now, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Come in with the audio of the hoodie.
All right?
Oh, hoodie audio.
Okay.
For that, for Ollie... Do you want to hear that real quick again?
Yeah, go ahead.
Hello, Dr. G. First off, I wanted to thank you for my hoodie that you sent me.
It's awesome.
Made in the USA.
You rock.
Isn't it like the softest, warmest hoodie you've ever tried?
Oh, it is heavenly.
That's the only thing that I can call it.
Love it, good.
And send that to me as well so I can send it to Randy.
Okay.
For Ollie... Maybe just the title of his book?
No, no, no, no, no.
Biden has endangered us all.
And the monologue?
monologue.
The deep irony of our great victory.
Uh-huh.
Got it.
40 seconds Get there all right, I'm gonna mention the hat as well so use that new picture.
Oh Yep, will do.
Oh, she's calling.
Okay.
20 seconds.
Vote America first.
Stand by.
Stand by.
Hello, Dr. G.
First off, I wanted to thank you for my hoodie that you sent me.
It's awesome.
Oh, good!
Made in the USA.
You rock.
Isn't it, like, the softest, warmest hoodie you've ever tried?
Oh, it is heavenly.
That's the only thing that I can call it.
Well, there you go!
That's one of our callers!
The best hoodie ever!
I told you for months!
And now you've got somebody who got it for free!
And they love it.
Get yours.
It's almost Christmas.
We should do a package.
Jeff, let's talk to Randy.
Let's do a special Thanksgiving Christmas package.
We're going to have to add in there the thing that everybody wants as well.
It's of course...
The Let's Go Brandon hats!
Yes, indeed, my friends.
We have Let's Go Brandon hats.
We have Let's Go Brandon t-shirts, yard signs, you name it.
Just buy it and put it out on the lawn and tell your neighbors who you are and how much you love this country.
Somebody who doesn't need to prove that to anybody is a very, very good friend of the show, representing Georgia's 14th congressional district, a true fighter.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, welcome back to America First.
Hi there, thanks so much for having me on today.
I've got to ask you, just free reign, because nobody else is talking about it.
Tucker's doing a bit of it, Julie Kelly with the great people of American Greatness, that's about it.
Please tell us what you have found out about those people who are still in federal cells in solitary because of the fake insurrection of January the 6th.
What did you find, Congresswoman?
Well, how long do we have this afternoon?
I found out a lot.
Tell us.
Well, here's what here's what's going on.
Every single American should be concerned.
And I don't care how you vote, because if our government can hold American citizens and treat them like political prisoners of war, then you should be terrified.
Because right now it's the Democrats in control.
And what if the Republicans got in control and did this back to you?
And our government is never meant to be this type of force.
We're not meant to have a communist government.
And our government agencies, our prosecutors, the Department of Justice should never be involved in treating American citizens like this, who are being held without bail as pre-trial defendants.
As a matter of fact, they haven't even been to court.
We're supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and there's no due process happening for these people.
Not only are they not having due process, not being allowed to bail out, but they are being mistreated horribly while they're being held in jail.
And I saw that for myself firsthand.
Thursday night, I was able to go on a tour of the jail after Trying for months to get a tour, uh, and asking many questions without receiving any answers.
Uh, Wednesday morning, along with myself and, um, Congress, we went to the jail demanding a door demanding to be let in because as members of Congress, we have oversight and jurisdiction over the district of Columbia because the district of Columbia is the nation's Capitol.
It's not a state by itself.
So Congress is its ruling body.
So we went there demanding a tour and we were told once again by Deputy Warden that we were not allowed to come in there.
The same woman always refuses that we can't come in.
So I said, who do we need to get permission from?
And she said, the mayor.
So the next morning on Thursday, I went to the mayor's office and Congressman Gohmert went with me and hand-delivered a letter that I had written Demanding why and all the reasons why we wanted to go in the jail and wanted to see the whole jail.
I wanted to see all of it.
I wanted to see how everyone's being treated in there because the U.S.
Marshals had done an inspection a few weeks prior and they failed one part of the facility, the CDF, the Central Detention Facility, failed the U.S.
Marshals inspection and didn't even meet minimum requirements.
And their statement, the U.S.
Marshals statement said, That because that part of the jail was so bad that they were moving 400 inmates to another facility in Pennsylvania.
Well, the other part is the CTF.
That's the Central Treatment Facility.
It did not fail the inspection and we were told the reason why it didn't fail inspection, as a matter of fact, it only barely passed because the prison They were in there cleaning up the CTF while the U.S.
Marshals were going through the CDF.
You see they're two separate buildings.
Yes.
And so the CTF is also a 30-year-old building, and the CDF, the one that failed, is a 40-year-old building.
So there's a huge problem with management at both of these buildings.
I mean, you blame the management, you blame the people running this place for the Horrid conditions that they are holding people in jail.
And this isn't just the January 6th defendants.
This is everyone.
So I saw the entire jail.
Now, I will tell you, I saw some things.
I was like, OK, these are good things.
They have an education program where inmates and defendants can continue education, get their GED, take college classes, do job training to prepare to live a better life once they leave.
And that, I think those are good programs to have in any jail.
I also saw a class that was going on where they were practicing a mock trial and a third year law student from Georgetown was there teaching them and helping them practice the mock trial.
That's probably very normal in most jails, which are good things.
However, the January 6th defendants are not allowed to participate in any of these programs is what they told me.
And at the end of the tour, we still had not seen the January 6th defendants, and we were being led towards the door, and I said, well, are we going to see the January 6th defendants now?
Are we going to that part of the prison?
And they said, no, that's not part of your tour, Congresswoman Green.
And we got in quite a little bit of an argument, and I said, yes, it is part of my tour, and I'm not leaving here until I see them.
And this is, you know, this is unacceptable.
You, you have something to hide.
If you will not take me down there, you're obviously hiding something.
And I told him if I have to leave this jail tonight, walking out of here after not seeing the January 6th appendix, I'm going to tell everybody, I'm going to go on every major news network and tell them what you're, that you're hiding something.
You wouldn't let me in there.
Well, then, um, the mayor's chief of staff made a phone call and then he came back and said that we got permission somehow.
Magically, to go see the January 6th defendants.
And so then we were taken to that part of the jail, which is in the central treatment facility.
Let's hold this here.
We're out of time on the radio broadcast.
If you can stay with us, because I know everybody watching on Rumble wants to hear what you found when you actually connected with the inmates.
Right now, if you're listening on radio, if you're not driving somewhere, you want to hear the update, everything MTG wants to tell us, go to rumble.com slash Seb Gorka and we will continue the discussion.
Because it is just too important.
That's Rumble.com slash S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A.
We're going to continue the discussion.
Don't go anywhere.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First and the Salem Radio Network coming to you live from the ReliefFactor.com studios.
Relief Factor.
If you're in daily pain, if you've tried everything else and failed to find relief, then you've got to try this 100% drug-free product that is liberating tens of thousands of Americans from their daily pain, me included.
But it's not just me, it's people like Leah from Ohio.
This is Leah's story.
One Sunday morning I sat on my couch in so much pain I was in tears.
That's the day I ordered Relief Factor.
Following directions in eight days I found relief only to get better and better.
I'm a believer 100%.
That should be your story.
It could be your story.
Find out today.
Order the three-week quick starter pack at relieffactor.com.
It'll be at your door in three days or less.
Take it morning and evening like I do and I promise you Dr. G's guarantee by the end of those three weeks you will know Whether it works for you like it works for me, Leah, and thousands of your fellow Americans.
What have you got to lose?
Accept the pain.
Don't wait any longer.
Do it now!
Call 800-500-8384, reliefactor.com.
Thank you.
Thank you, Marjorie, for staying on.
It's just far too important.
So you are live now on the video stream.
So they finally, after they reached out to the mayor, they finally... So is this an MPD prison?
I mean, why is the mayor involved?
Who owns this prison?
The District of Columbia.
It's the District of Columbia Jail.
And because it's the District of Columbia, they can use it for federal Prisoners too.
So that's where they've been keeping these January 6th defendants.
So finally you got access.
What did you find when you saw the inmates?
Oh, Sebastian.
When we walked in there, into the room, somehow I ended up being the first person going into the room because the people that work at the prison and taking us on the tour, when they opened the doors, they kind of went off to the side.
And I continued to walk into the room and so There's a common area, and then there's an upper level that is open, and that's where there's cells, and then there's cells on the lower level, too.
Well, they must have heard the doors, and they just all came running down to see who's coming in.
And the minute they saw me, they knew who I was.
They recognized me, and they started clapping and cheering and yelling.
They were beyond excited.
They were like people that it's like their eyes couldn't believe they saw someone coming in for them.
And they were crying and shaking my hand and thanking me and thanking me and thanking me for coming.
I'm going to ask you one question.
We're back on radio in 10 seconds.
Stand by.
Stand by. Stand by. Stand by.
Can you believe it?
They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
How do you say that?
Magnificent.
If you didn't hear the story of how the prisoners reacted to when Marjorie Taylor Greene arrived in the cell block, you've got to subscribe right now.
Go to rumble.com slash sebgorka.
That's rumble.com slash s-e-b-g-o-r-k-a.
We're sadly out of time.
We've got to get you back.
I want to ask you one question.
Julie Kelly told us there's one website that helps these prisoners.
It's Patriot.
FreedomProject.com, that's PatriotFreedomProject.com.
Is there any other way, you're broadcasting to millions of Americans, is there any other way that they can help those who are incarcerated on these spurious charges?
Right now that website, that's the only site I know of that has a defense fund set up for them.
So I think that's the greatest place to go and help them.
A lot of these people can't afford attorneys, Um, you know, now I will tell you, there, these, some of them have definitely committed serious crimes and some of them I think are, you know, outrageous what's happening.
So I'm not for the, I'm not defending their crimes, but that is the only defense site that I know of.
Another way you can help is, is put as much pressure as you possibly can on your representative or your senator to call in and say, do something about this abuse.
We are not a communist country and this should not be happening.
You heard her.
Put pressure on your representative and go right now to patriotfreedomproject.com.
God bless you for doing that.
And Louie Gohmert, follow this lady at RepMTG right now.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
Let's get a call in.
We promised we'd get to your calls.
Let's go to Jeff in California, line four.
Privileged, Dr. Gorka.
Nice to talk to you.
Thank you.
Tell us your story, Jeff.
You've got a minute and a half.
I served in the U.S.
Army in 1970 and 71 in West Berlin.
Our primary mission was to keep the West free.
I had the life-changing experience of seeing the ugly face of communism up front, and it was such a privilege to be able to do that, and I wanted to share that with you since that was the subject today.
Yes, how long were you stationed in Germany?
I was there for a year and we also served as guarding a Spandau prison so we got to see the tail end of fascism die as well.
So you were there when Hess was the only prisoner in Spandau?
Yes, sir, I was.
It's Sturgeon in the Garden, actually.
You saw Hess in the exercise yard.
What an incredible, incredible life you've led.
Stay on the line, Jeff.
I'd like to say thank you.
Let's get Jeff a copy of The War for America's Soul.
You can get all of my books, all of our products that tell the world how proud you are about this, the greatest nation in God's Earth.
If you go to sebgorkastore.com, that's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A, sebgorkastore.com.
Check it out today, everything there, made in America.
Wow, what a great, great first hour.
Oliver North, Marjorie Taylor Greene, the words of Ronald Reagan, so much more to follow.
Next, the one and only Lord Conrad Black, here on the Salem Radio Network.
Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
The End
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I don't want to forget this incredible win in the Commonwealth.
It's like, oh, that's ancient history.
No, no, no!
We must analyze, we must learn from, especially as we follow the shenanigans, the dark deeds in New Jersey.
According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the president of the Senate there has said, well, he's just discovered 12,000 extra ballots, which means he's not conceding to the truck driver who defeated him, Edward Durr, by spending $150,000.
Three dollars on a campaign that just was anti-swamp in its core.
Let's talk about what this means for the Republic as a whole from the individual who spies on us from northerly climes and writes such superlative works as a president like no other, Donald J. Trump and the restoring of America.
Welcome back to America First, Lord Conrad Black.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
Glad to be with you.
Conrad, you mentioned in your latest piece for American Greatness, Virginia Paves the Way for Trump's Return, that this was perhaps one of the most inept campaigns by Terry McAuliffe of recent years.
Allow me to share with you why I think this businessman one and whether it resonates with your analysis.
For me, I saw somebody like my old boss, President Trump, who had no associations with the swamp politically, was a businessman, came to this tabula rasa, ran originally on an economic platform saying, get the state back to work, no mandates, we've got to open businesses.
And then in the last three and a half weeks, He pivoted very adroitly to this cultural issue of the schools, critical race theory, the door that was opened by brave mothers who said we can't have paedophilic porn in the libraries of our schools, we don't need masks, and that's really what catapulted him across the final finish.
Is that an oversimplification or did you see that pivot as well from Canada?
No, I don't think it's an oversimplification.
I think it's absolutely right, but look, I don't like to, you know, kick a man while he's down, but I thought it was an appalling campaign because he blundered into that statement that really the parents shouldn't be determining what the children are taught.
And his real constant theme was Trump hate.
He just stumped around the state denouncing the man who ceased to be president ten months ago.
He might as well have been denouncing the man on the moon, because it wasn't really relevant at all to the issues that were in the minds of the voters of Virginia.
It just seemed to me a tawdry, shabby, stupid campaign in which he avoided the issues and created real problems for himself, but just loped around attacking Donald Trump.
He might as well have been attacking Jefferson Davis.
You call it one of the most inept campaigns of recent years.
It truly was built on Trump hatred.
But what does it indicate for the Democrat Party when one of their darlings, one of their social media faces, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, right after Terry McAuliffe's defeat, actually says this defeat is down to the fact that Terry McAuliffe is a moderate And we have to support more radicalism if we want to win.
Does this speak to some kind of potential civil war boiling inside the Democrat Party?
Well, I think it's there already.
You know, it was not so long ago that Nancy Pelosi told us that The so-called progressives were only about six people, six members of the Congress.
Now I see the so-called progressive caucus, 96 people.
So it's not clear to me who the Speaker represents.
I mean, the 96 think that she's to the right of them.
The others, about, what, 130 or so, Uh, would, would claim that she's to the left of them.
So I don't, it's not obvious to me who the speaker now represents.
I mean, that, that party is breaking up, at least temporarily anyway, between the far left and, and the, you know, relatively sensible people.
And, and, uh, I, it's, I guess it's really a, it would be a most interesting study to figure out how it got so completely Off the reservation.
I mean, the Democrats were, you know, they were, for the most part, a reasonable party until relatively recently.
Yeah.
Let's look at how President Trump played this campaign.
So we have this pivot by Junkin.
He gets very robust in picking up this culture war baton.
And then he comes on shows like ours after months of prevaricating.
He goes on Breitbart.
He goes on Fox, where Junkin had not been seen for many, many weeks.
And then he wins when he embraces, you know, the Trump base.
At the same time, President Trump didn't come to the Commonwealth.
He held a rally, a virtual rally by phone.
But he did endorse Glenn Junkin.
What does that mean?
What are the lessons learned by this very different type of campaigning by President Trump, this campaigning at a distance, which seemed to work at least in the Commonwealth?
Look, I thought he played it brilliantly.
He, as you just said, he wasn't there.
He wasn't present.
And his absence made the McAuliffe campaign appear completely ridiculous by constantly referring to him.
And I thought his statement on election night was extremely good.
It basically said, you know, congratulations to the winner and my thanks to my supporters there who maintained their loyalty to him in great numbers.
and made his victory possible.
I mean, the The idea that has been generated that this is somehow the end of Trump is just nonsense.
It's the end of Trump hate as a viable campaign effort.
And it confirms it, I think.
After all, at least 80% of Junkin supporters are Trump supporters.
Trump's position in that party, in my opinion, is stronger than ever.
Does the Commonwealth, should it be filed, should this tactic or this strategy of campaigning at a distance, is this a sui generis campaign?
Or would this be your advice to President Trump as how he supports other candidates and how he supports the midterms?
Look, I'd be hesitant to advise him, but if he asked my advice, which is not likely, I think you have to play it by ear.
I mean, if he had been in the state campaigning for young men, it would have lent plausibility to McAuliffe's nonsense of attacking Trump all the time.
On the other hand, in some other states, the former president's presence would be a very powerful asset.
And I think it just varies from place to place.
For example, in Florida, for instance, I think his presence would be very useful to any Republican running there.
But it seems, and you've commented on this at the strategic level since he was banned right after the inauguration, or after the election, that his absence, his forced absence on social media hasn't hurt him, or in fact may actually play to his advantage.
I think so, because one thing that did clearly bother a lot of people was that he seemed to be in the country's face all the time.
And as he himself said, I mean I heard him say it,
On television several months ago, while he was outraged at the way he was treated and banned from Twitter and so on, he's right to be outraged about it, giving the country a rest from him made it a lot harder for people to attack him, but it didn't necessarily reduce in any degree his attractiveness to his natural followers.
So, you know, look, I think there was a problem when he was president, but he was constantly in the news and was tweeting all night.
And there was never any rest from him.
And people did get a bit tired.
And here, I think he is the wind double of not suffering from overexposure and people realizing that it is a shabby and outrageous thing.
What was the line from Star Wars?
If you strike me down now, I will be stronger than you can ever imagine.
endlessly carry the comments and blandish nonsense of the ayatollahs of Iran and other such people.
What was the line from Star Wars?
If you strike me down now, I will be stronger than you can ever imagine.
We talk to Lord Conrad Black here on America First, back after these messages.
Star Wars
you Surprised me.
Did it resonate?
Was it a big news item in Canada?
Yes, yes.
I mean, I think the whole world was watching that election.
You know, the one, you remember we were talking about this just a week ago.
I wondered if there wasn't a shot in New Jersey, but you people thought not, and you were right in the end, but that was close.
Oh my gosh, to close it by 16 points, that's even more impressive.
Yeah, exactly.
New Jersey's a more reliably democratic state, and Murphy was, I think, basically a less controversial person than McAuliffe, and the Republican candidate wasn't quite as strong as him, although he ran very well.
And it seemed to me that there was a real message there.
When Murphy said, "If taxes are your thing, maybe New Jersey's not for you." As if he was talking about flavors of ice cream or something.
He just squeaked in by a hair's breadth. - Right, no, 16 points, the close 16 points after Biden's victory there last year was impressive given it was only 10 in the Commonwealth.
But if the economy continues the way it is, this seems to be the playbook, no?
Yeah, look, I don't see any support, any durable support for Biden at all.
The majority of Americans don't think that he is mentally alert enough to do the job.
And every single policy they have instituted is mistaken and unpopular, and I don't think anyone in that administration is actually competent.
I mean, I remember the Carter years, and they were pretty lean years, but, you know, he had significant presence in foreign policy, he was capable.
He had Paul Volcker on the economy, he was capable.
There were some, you know, there were some able people around, and Carter himself was certainly mentally alert.
There was no question that he was, you know, an intelligent man who was, you know, adequately energetic and astute to do the job.
The problem was, you know, some of his ideas didn't work.
But, you know, at least there was an argument to be made for him.
I mean, here, they're just failing in every policy area, and I don't think No.
And there's no great brain.
There's no, you know, strategic thinker.
You listen to Ron Klein on TV, the chief of staff, and he's perhaps one of the least intelligent in the building.
Yeah, he's a mystery man to me.
I mean, I give him credit for staying out of the public eye, and I guess he must know what he's doing, but whenever I see him or hear him, he's not particularly impressive.
Or the Attorney General!
The testimony of the Attorney General!
I mean, what a shower!
I have a confession to make here.
I had some sympathy for him.
I thought McConnell at the time should have brought up to the vote.
Coming in with cut 10.
Stand by.
Stand with Israel at some point.
Yep.
All right.
Stand by.
Coming in with cut 10.
Standing by.
Thank you.
From the relief factor.com studios.
This is America first with Sebastian Gorka.
America.
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
He said it and less than a year and a half later it happened.
The power of leadership and that of course was President Ronald Reagan at the Brandenburg Gate calling for the Soviet Empire to tear down that wall and the East Berlin residents did just 15 months later.
On November the 9th, 1989.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
It's official!
Our Stand With Israel tour is back.
They tried to stop us under Covid, but we have our new dates.
If you've never been to the Holy Land, join us next November with Dinesh D'Souza for 10 Days That...
Just, if you've never been, you've got to go.
The Trip of a Lifetime.
All the key sites and with an amazing, amazing group of people from Salem Radio.
Join us.
Go to StandWithIsraelTour.com for the Trip of a Lifetime.
Call 855-565-5519 to reserve your seats today.
565-5519 to reserve your seats today.
That's 855-565-5519 or just go to standwithisraeltour.com.
We are back with the author of numerous works, including A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, and the one I've acquired most recently, his collected essays, Backward Glances, People and Events from Inside and Out, Lord Conrad Black.
You can follow him at Conrad M. Black.
Read his articles at the Epoch Times and also American Greatness, mgreatness.com.
Lord Black, As a historian, one of your many, many hats, let's put into historic context today's anniversary.
We must celebrate the amazing victory of Margaret Thatcher, President Reagan, St.
John Paul II that occurred 32 years ago today.
But also, the threat of communist ideas, socialist ideas, is very much alive today, is it not?
Yes, I'm afraid it is.
You see, I must confess, I would never have imagined that our enemies on the left, having been defeated, completely defeated in the Cold War, would have the skill and talent of improvisation to clamber aboard the environmental bandwagon, to push aside, shoulder aside the
You know, the genuine conservationists, Sierra and Greenpeace, and the bird watchers and butterfly collectors and so on.
I mean, some of them were tiresome.
Greenpeace was always harassing American aircraft carriers and things, but they were sincere environmentalists.
They shouldered them aside, took over that cause, and assaulted capitalism anew from another direction.
in the name of saving the planet, and I must congratulate them.
It was a brilliant strategy, and it took a long time for us to be aware of what the danger was and where it was coming from.
But, I mean, look at them!
They organize these conferences, and we all stupidly pledge to You shut down our oil industries and produce electric cars exclusively, and you throw huge numbers of people out of work out of fear of the carbon footprint, which is nonsense.
As Ronald Reagan said, there's more carbon dioxide emitted by trees than by cars, and it is absolutely necessary to the environment.
And, you know, we're just waking up now.
So, yeah, I must say that I was one of those who thought we'd really defeated the left.
And, you know, we defeated them for about two weeks and they were back.
If you call it a strategy, you commend them on a strategy pivoting from rank Marxist communism to this environmentalism, which provides the same level of state control, if not more.
But was it a strategy by distinct players?
If so, who were they?
Or was it more the result of just decades of osmosis, whether through the schools, the teacher training colleges, the media?
Is there a center of gravity for who affected that pivot?
No, I think not.
I think you're right.
It was a seizure of a psychological susceptibility.
They recognized that it was almost impossible to object to advocacy of a clean environment.
And it is.
I mean, we all want a clean environment.
Nobody wants polluted air and water.
But how they managed to aggregate up from there into the necessity to shut industry down in order to prevent what President Biden beautifully calls an existential crisis from overwhelming us.
I just don't understand how we slept at the switch while this went on.
I mean, they put one over on us.
They have the children of the world and the academics of the world all believing, nodding like dolls, that yes, this is a terrible crisis.
We're all in mortal danger.
We don't shut down the oil and gas industry.
It's nonsense.
This is nonsense.
The history of radicals, left or right, is that, Lord Black, they're never convinced out of their radicalism.
They have to be trounced or collapsed.
Is that the same goal we have to strive for if we believe in the founding principles that the radicals that now inhabit the Democrat Party, the media, they must be soundly, soundly trounced again and again and again until they have, what, some kind of collective crisis of conscience?
Well, certainly they have to be defeated sufficiently, severely.
To disabuse many of them of the idea of continuing to try and overthrow the society that most of us are trying to build.
I mean, it is frightening to see the way the left managed to build very suddenly, very quickly, this widespread feeling of national self-hate in the United States.
I mean, you know, my late friend Malcolm Muggeridge used to refer to the great liberal death wish, but the United States never displayed that.
I mean, it sometimes had liberal leaders, but they were patriotic men who would defend the country, and women, who would defend the country as vigorously as anyone else would.
I mean, John F. Kennedy or Franklin D. Roosevelt were never slightly left of center, but they were very very unambiguously patriotic Americans.
I suddenly do this unsuspected collapsed lung occurred of a huge number of Americans apparently despising America.
And where did this come from?
I think, and again, you always caveat your comments with the fact that you're not a psychoanalyst But if I had the white coat on, if I were allowed to theorize, I would say that hatred of America, in many cases, I think, hails from or originates from a self-hatred.
I think there is some internal problem and then that is projected externally for many of these actors.
But then again, I stand by your caveat.
I'm not a psychoanalyst either.
The works you must check.
Anything with the name Lord Conrad Black on it is worth your time.
But check out, if you haven't already, A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, along with my, one of my favorites, A Matter of Principle.
Your calls next here on America First.
America First
- I hate that conversion.
Sebastian, I must thank you for citing these books of mine.
Are you actually reading Backward Glances?
I just bought it.
I just bought it.
I just found it.
For some reason it never popped up.
I always go on Amazon before you come on the show so I have the whole list of your books in front of me.
And then last week it suddenly popped up and I immediately jumped on it.
So it's just arrived and I'm about to start it.
I hope you find some of it to your taste anyway.
And you said, you said, because I mean, I'm almost finished a matter of principle and you said there's a there's a newer version or the this this this part two, which one is that?
For a matter of principle.
You said that you have multiple autobiographies, so that's the first part, correct?
No, the first one was A Life in Progress.
Oh, okay.
That's the second one.
Okay, good.
All right.
I don't have The Life in Progress.
I'll get that as well.
Well, look, you send me your address and I'll send you one.
Oh, I'd love to have one inscribed.
Fabulous.
I will.
I'll text it to you right now.
Okay, good.
Splendid.
God bless.
Thanks, Conrad.
All the best.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Okay, titles.
MTG and Black.
Black is President Trump.
Where did I put it?
President Trump played Virginia beautifully.
Yep.
Uh, what else do you need?
MTG.
MT- I told you.
Did you?
Yeah.
What was it?
I went to see the January 6th prisoners.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you.
Which one saw on a rumble from today?
Uh, rumble?
Um... Everything, including A. Okay.
And you want me to do a one-on-one with her?
With NTG?
Yeah.
And Louis if we can.
I'll turn it on.
Next week it can completely blow up though.
Because we have like all congress people.
And if they hold votes and stuff.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you imagine being a congressperson and being in the prison and then telling you your tour is now over and you don't get to see the prisoners you actually came here to see?
Okay.
That's something, too.
She mentioned, like, you know, if you don't let me see what I want to see, I'm going to tell all the major media outlets.
And I thought to myself, I hate having to say this, but I don't think they care what the media coverage says about it.
Because they know the media is going to run cover for them and continue to say, oh, these are all terrorists we have here.
All right.
Relief here.
And I'm going to play Disclaimer.
Okay, 30 seconds.
Wanna play any cuts?
I got so many.
Um, I gotta get to some calls.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's right.
All right, 20 seconds, stand by.
Oh, come in with 12.
Come in with 12.
I'll do that.
Oh, yeah.
Portions of America First are brought to you in part by Stand With Israel Tour. - Thank you.
Your arms up in the air.
He never fired, right?
Correct.
It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him, with your hands down, pointed at him, that he fired, right?
Correct.
I'm no lawyer, but I've watched enough episodes of Columbo.
Guys, if you're the prosecution, don't call a witness who says, yeah, I went up to your defendant with a pistol in my hand, pointed at his head, and I looked like I was gonna shoot him.
The Rittenhouse case collapsed yesterday.
If you haven't seen the images, get a phone, go online, go to Twitter, as you see the prosecutor just lay his head in his hands when the witness said, yeah, yeah, I wanted to kill him.
Um, dismiss the case right now.
Judge, if you're a real judge, throw the case out.
Release Rittenhouse.
Let's go to your calls here, waiting so patiently to talk to us.
Let's go to John in California.
Talk to us about the Cold War, John.
Sebastian, how are you?
Good!
I never called, I wanted to call, and this really got my goat, this Berlin Wall stuff, because my father-in-law was born in Prussia, in the former Prussia.
His oldest brother was caught behind the Berlin Wall when the family moved west, when Hitler came across to the Western Front in Russia, and then the Russians came in.
So the long story short is, my wife's uncle, who was caught behind the Berlin Wall, Married a woman whose father and son were both in the Stasi, the East German secret police.
You know about them.
Yeah.
Listen, they would bring when they went to visit from the West, they would bring like Milka chocolates and Donald Duck comic books.
You mean you mean the parents who were in the secret police got to go to the West?
No, no.
My wife's family would go visit, and they would bring from the West chocolate, Donald Duck comic books, and the wife of my wife's uncle wanted to turn their family in to her brother and father.
People don't understand what mind control is, except, as my wife is saying now, we're seeing it here.
We've seen it with the COVID, with the lockdowns.
In California here, when the governor in L.A.
County, they forced people to put signs on their storefronts saying, if you see someone illegally opening a business, like doing a tattoo or whatever, a facial, whatever, call this number.
That is Stasi stuff.
I'm sorry, I'm getting riled up!
No, no, you are doing a service to those who aren't historians or maybe too young to remember or who just weren't paying attention.
The essence of these systems, whether it was East Germany, whether it was the land of my parents, Hungary, anywhere from Cambodia to Vietnam to East Germany to the Soviet Union, Was to make it that everybody became a spy.
Here's a shocking statistic, John.
Correct.
If you go to Romania and you talk to people who lived through Ceausescu's regime, this is, this is one of, you know, after East Germany and Bulgaria, Romania was one of the most evil dictatorships.
I mean, truly Ceausescu was evil.
His wife was even worse.
And at the height of his regime, and he was weird because he kind of, you know, broke off from the Soviet Union, but maintained the one party state.
This is the estimate for number of informants in Romania.
One out of three of the population were actually informants for the securitate, which means, John, if you're sitting down for a beer with two of your buddies, odds on one of them is going to tell the secret police if you're odds on one of them is going to tell the secret police if you're cracking a joke about the regime and
So, John, God bless you for reminding us this is what they're trying to do in America with the tip line for, you know, Governor, you know, Gruesome Newsome, you know, dime out the guy who's just trying to pay the rent by cutting hair this week or the DOJ proudly saying...
Hey, have you got tips about the fake insurrection on January the 6th?
Give us a call today.
You know, DOJ, you know, 1-800-UNDERMINE-AMERICA.
Stay on the line, John.
Let's get John a, let's get him a Let's Go Brandon hat.
Have you seen the picture of our Let's Go Brandon hat?
The most popular things flying off the shelves At our store.
It's the Let's Go Brandon hat, the shirts, the yard signs.
Get yours today.
SebGorkaStore.com.
That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-Store.com.
Tell the world what you think of Joe Biden politely, with a sense of humor.
Let's go, Brandon.
More of your course here on America First coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios.
Reliefactor, pain relief that's real, pain relief that works, pain relief that is liberating tens of thousands of Americans across the country from their daily pain, me included.
Yes, I had a lower back pain issue that plagued me for nine years, almost a decade.
Whatever I did, I couldn't get rid of it.
I took Reliefactor just two weeks later.
The pain was gone.
Whether it's your lower back, your hip, your knees, your shoulder, whatever it is, you've got to try this product that is liberating tens of thousands of Americans from their daily pain.
Order the three-week quick starter pack right now and you could share the story of Yvonne from California.
Both my husband and I are in our seventies and are so grateful to have found Relief Factor.
We tried so many other solutions, but none of them have given us the freedom of being pain-free like Relief Factor.
Just those words, pain-free.
That should be you.
That could be you.
There's only one way to find out, but it's super simple.
Go to relieffactor.com, order the three-week quick starter pack.
It'll be at your door in three days or less.
Take it morning and evening like I do, and I promise you, Dr. G's guarantee, by the end of those three weeks, you will know Whether it works for you, like it works for me, Yvonne, and thousands of your fellow Americans.
You've waited long enough!
Don't you deserve to find out?
I think you know the answer to that question.
Don't wait any longer.
Do it now.
Call 800-500-8384.
ReliefFactor.com.
500 8384 relieffactor.com relieffactor.com
The End
Mic's on Mic's on What?
I was just telling Jeff, have you seen the media reacting to Paul Gosar's tweet?
So what was the video he posted?
It's an altered, it's a meme, it's an altered version of the opening sequence of Attack on Titan, which is this anime that I really, really like.
His face, Bobert's face, MTG's face, superimposed on the main characters fighting these giant man-eating giants.
At one point, he superposes AOC's face on one of the giants, and then Joe Biden's face on another.
So it's funny!
It's a funny meme, but they're all like, oh, he posts a violent video of him killing AOC, and I'm just like, alright, okay.
Like, if AOC had done the same thing, they'd be saying, oh, this proves that she knows the culture, she's so up to the unculture.
Did he delete it, or is it still there?
It's still there, it's got a flag from Twitter, but it's still there.
You want me to send it to you?
I'll find it.
Is it on his private, or his... It's his official one.
His official one.
It's so great.
Uh, where is it?
Is it a while ago?
It was a couple days ago.
Oh, this tweet has violated Twitter rules.
Oh dear.
And again, as a fan of Attack on Titan, I can appreciate it more, but like, it is... One thing worse than sci-fi, actually.
Okay.
It's probably 20 times worse.
I agree.
I... Alright.
Is there anything worse than that?
Manga.
Is what?
Manga.
The literary versus anime.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean you guys discussed it before.
I had no idea what it was before.
Do you like that too or no?
Yeah.
It's just Japanese comics is all it is.
And then anime is just like the televised adaptation of those comics.
I get the stigma around anime.
I totally get it.
But there are some good ones.
There are some genuinely...
So who did this?
Do we know who did this?
Someone on his social media team, I think.
No, there's no way Gosa has people who can do this.
I've heard he has a couple of Zoomers on his team.
Where are you calling from?
Alright, we got 20 seconds, so we're coming in here.
So good.
Alright.
Standing by. Standing
by. Standing by.
Sebastian Gorka.
Man, it's getting a bit crazy, Jeff.
Isn't it hard nowadays to pack all the news into three hours with all the guests we have?
Great callers.
The last month has been a very busy month too, I feel like.
But this week's pretty intense, no?
Yes, it definitely is.
Because we haven't even mentioned big stories like James O'Keefe.
Getting raided by the FBI.
Right.
I mean, Paul Gosar getting Twitter, you know, with the knickers in a twist.
I mean, there's all kinds of stuff we're going to have to squeeze in there.
OK, let's let's do this.
You've got a cut for us.
Cut four.
So for those of you who haven't heard the story, it's Biden's daughter, Ashley.
Allegedly had a diary that was allegedly stolen.
Pages of it, or images of it, made it to James O'Keefe's Project Veritas and they were published, right?
Eric, am I getting this right?
Uh, so far so good, yeah.
Okay, and these pages had some very...
disturbing things in them of sexual content and also there's a line about taking she doesn't know whether she dreamt it or whether it's a memory and she says taking showers with my father meaning joe biden am i getting this right eric So far, and honestly, if any of that is true, it makes Hunter's stuff look trivial in comparison, in my opinion.
Yeah, it truly does.
I mean, it makes it potentially a criminal.
Let's listen to what happened to James O'Keefe, because was it two days ago, 6am, his house, his apartment was raided by the FBI, who took materials, including all of his iPhones.
Cut 4, play cut.
I couldn't authenticate the source material.
I had a newsroom at the time.
We were looking through it for a little while.
We couldn't authenticate it, so I decided not to run it.
And I'm trying to figure out what more we could have done as journalists.
What more could I have done but not run the story and hand it over to law enforcement?
I don't know what more we could have done, and so we decided not to publish the story.
So, what on earth, what action could we have taken as reporters, beyond the action that we've taken?
So, Eric, he didn't publish it.
Somebody else did.
Right.
Okay, but he has the images, so that's why they raided him.
He apparently committed the crime of actual journalism.
Oh my gosh, that's good.
James O'Keefe committed the crime of actual journalism.
The FBI It's toast.
You're done, guys.
You've got to be dismantled.
You've got to be dismantled.
You're just now puppets.
You're just jackbooted thugs working for the administration, as long as it's a Democrat administration.
If it's President Trump, if it's a Republican, you're helping to undermine that administration elected by the American people.
I don't trust them anymore.
Sad.
I've worked with them for years and years and years.
Don't trust them.
They come after you.
Spurious attacks and charges?
Tell them to talk to your lawyer, because that's how badly they've been politicized.
Waiting so patiently, I think, for almost an hour.
Doc!
Line one.
Wow, check this out.
You know, instead of Joe Biden's Build Back Broke, how about Make America Dr. G again?
I'm talking... Hang on, I like this.
Build Back Broke.
Did you hear that somewhere or did you come back up with that?
Oh, you know I do my own stuff, brother.
I love it!
You know what?
Check this out, Dr. G.
A few days ago, a black guy called in.
He couldn't understand.
He knew the benefits of Trump, but he couldn't really understand Trump's language.
You gotta speak in the black culture language.
Okay, stop, Doc.
I'm so glad you heard that call because Guy calls in, kind of praising my old boss, but saying he could do without all the racism.
And I asked him, not once, not twice, I asked him three times, what racism, Doc?
And he never gave me an answer.
Help me out.
Because there is no racism.
See, the thing is, I speak three different languages.
I speak the black culture, by the knees, and English.
So I can break all this down for you.
And the hardest one to learn is by the knees, right?
By the knees.
It's hard, but I got it.
Well, first of all, when you're talking to the black culture, we understand parables.
Say something like, how about two guys break in your house.
It's a father and son.
And you catch them, the police catch them, and put them in jail, one in prison and one in juvie.
And then you want to pay them $450,000 because you separated the family?
Come on, man.
And see, President Trump has donated, well, has allocated more money to historical black colleges than any president in history.
Joe cut money to black colleges.
Yes.
You know, talk in a language.
What happened to the reparation?
Your reparation money is going to go illegal.
Doc, where have you been?
You've been a stranger for so long.
No, I called in, but they put me on hold, and they just, you know... So, Doc, here's the big question.
Stay on the line, because I want to give you something after you get off.
You're always huge, huge value for money.
Why is it I want to be delicate here.
No, I'm never delicate.
Why do Republicans not stinking understand what you're saying?
Why are they incapable of... Just that little story you said, the parable of the father and son criminals who we don't reward with a million bucks like Biden is doing to illegals who are separated at the border.
Do you have any answer as to why the establishment conservatives have no idea to speak the way you do?
Yes, truly I do.
Because a lot of times we use code words in the Republican language that's talking over people's heads.
You know, when we say the elite, when we say, we use certain words, GDP, and people don't understand.
They're just going to shake their head because they're not going to tell you they don't understand.
So just make it a comprehensible, use layman's terms.
Is that enough, Doc?
That's it.
See, Dr. G, you got it.
You got it, Dr. G. And I appreciate you, man.
I'm telling you, you Are the voice of the First Amendment.
Thank you so much, Dr. G. Hey, buddy, stay on the line.
If anybody deserves a Let's Go Brandon hat or t-shirt, he gets to pick.
It's Doc.
And don't be a stranger.
Keep on trying, because every time you call, it is massive, massive value for money.
If you're enjoying the show...
Value for money because it doesn't cost me anything but it's a great contribution to this nation.
If you enjoy the show don't forget for free you can subscribe to the podcast so you never miss a thing.
Look for my name America First wherever you get your podcast.
I play wherever it is.
America first Sebastian Gorka and additionally because you heard MTG had so much amazing things to say that we kept her on the show in the break so when you don't get to hear it on terrestrial radio but of course you do on the video live stream because we keep the cameras and mics rolling you guys love it go to rumble.com slash Seb Gorka to subscribe for free to our video stream of the show where we also post all the segments interviews and
logs go to rumble.com slash s e b g o r k a patriot mobile if you've got a cell phone i think you've got a cell phone if it's tied to one of the big cell phone providers please stop that now the big cell phone companies are not on your side at the end of the month when you pay your bill they make massive million dollar donations to things like planned parenthood and gun control organizations Join the good guys.
You've got to stick together.
The only conservative Christian cell phone company that's patriotmobile.com.
They have bundles to fit every budget.
They've got the same national cell phone tower coverage.
And guess what?
They've donated hundreds of thousands of dollars Join the good guys.
972 Patriot.
like the First Amendment, the culture of life, veterans' causes, and law enforcement.
Join today.
Call 972-PATRIOT.
You can keep your own number.
Switch so fast.
patriotmobile.com slash G-O-R-K-A.
Now more than ever, we should not be funding those who hate America and hate our values.
Join the good guys.
972-PATRIOT.
That's 972-728-7468 or patriotmobile.com slash G-O-R-K-A.
Promo code GORKA.
patriotmobile.com slash G-O-R-K-A.
Lights on.
Thank you.
Alright, so we've got that out.
We've got that out.
We're getting through.
Reagan.
Oh, got it.
That Fauci thing is so interesting.
What are you saying, Eric?
I said that's important.
Again, I had no idea he's on video saying that stuff.
That was tremendous.
Okay, we did O'Keefe.
De Blasio.
We didn't play it on the show.
No, I'll do Fauci and then I'll go to Judy.
Oh, Joe in New Jersey, that's interesting.
Which one did he pick?
Hat or shirt?
Shirt.
So you want to come in without you or tee it up?
I'll tee it up.
All right.
Actually, we can play that any time because it's 85.
We'll play that tomorrow.
I got so many calls.
Okay.
Let's just go to the calls.
All right.
Standing by.
Yep.
20 seconds.
Stand by. Stand by.
In my book, you're number one.
I don't care about the Stephen Guy number two.
In my book, you're number one, okay?
So don't worry about it.
Sebastian Gorka.
I recognize that voice.
Guys, CRT, it won it for us in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
The whole next hour.
Mr. CIT, the man who's destroyed the critical race theories agenda.
You gotta listen.
Chris Ruffo, don't miss a minute.
Stay with us for the third hour of America First.
We'll get to Judy momentarily, but I've got to listen.
Oh no, let's do it anyway.
We have liners from her.
Cut five!
Sorry, line five.
Pay attention.
Judy!
Hey, I'm so confused.
You're confused?
How about running the show at this end if you're confused?
Hey, thanks for being so patient, Judy.
You're doing a great job and your crew is adorable.
I'm listening to the behind the scenes.
They're all so cute.
Yes, they are.
You've definitely not met Jeff, clearly.
Not met Jeff, sorry.
Oh, Jeff, I love Jeff.
I absolutely love Jeff.
I got news for you.
So listen, you know something?
I never understood hugging.
He doesn't understand hugging.
I'm sorry.
Well, you know what?
We'll talk to his wife.
No, listen, Dr. Gorka.
First of all, you, Dr. Mr. James Bond of the radio.
By the way, you know, I think of Joe Biden, you know what I think of him?
He's the con man and thief.
How's that?
Listen, I'm calling.
Yep.
I'm calling.
Because I get triggered every time I hear the complaint against President Trump's tweets.
I get crazy.
So yesterday you were talking about some lady who was mentioning something to that effect.
Yes.
Today, I'm listening to your opening monologue today, and here is my quote-unquote question, okay, Dr. Gorka?
I ask if the hundreds of Americans behind the Afghanistan Iron Curtain, abandoned by Biden, Ask them if they care anything about President Trump's tweets.
I just want to know.
Oh, that's very good.
Excellent, Judy.
Thank you.
Yes, indeed.
I think I might have to tweet that out and give you credit.
What do the Afghans think about President Trump's tweets?
I think we know the answer to that question.
Let's go to Joe in New Jersey.
Let's squeeze in Joe, line four.
Joe!
How are you doing?
Good.
You had a comment about the Project Veritas raids.
Let's go to Joe in Illinois, line 3.
My name's O'Keefe, and I was hoping to talk about the Lincoln Project and share with you one of the massive lies that I haven't even seen you talk about yet.
Hey!
It's pretty big, and it's a very large...
Let's go to Joe in Illinois, line three.
Dr. G.
Hey.
Let's go, Brandon.
Let's go, Brandon.
We're going to have a hard travel season this year, 33 years.
A 33-year American Airlines employee.
These flight attendants are p-offed.
Are they going to do something or just take another collective sickie?
Because that's kind of like cheating.
They're offering them triple time and they're telling them to take their triple time and stick it where the sun don't shine.
Oh my gosh.
God bless you, Joe.
33 years.
I hope you're right because somebody's got to start the tidal wave.
Whether it's the truckers, whether it's the pilots, but somebody has got to show America the way.
This is America First. This is America
First.
This is America
First. This is America
First.
This is America Thank
you.
Thank you.
Over the past week, after you watch what's going on, we can't be under any illusions about the fact that racism is alive and well in our country.
And I can't be under any illusions that we don't have it in our Navy.
It's always the case, dear friends, a story may break in the news, but its origins are much older and go much deeper.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First with a very special interview with somebody who was on the show recently for just a couple of segments, but you wanted more.
He is the man who has done more than most to actually shed a light on the corrosive effects of something called critical race theory throughout the United States and especially the government.
Welcome back, Chris Rufo, to America First.
It's great to be with you.
Director of the Discovery Institute Center on Wealth and Poverty.
He is the director, the producer of a fabulous movie called America Lost.
You've got to see it.
AmericaLostFilm.com.
His work led in large part, if not the lion's share, To the initiation, the initiative of the Trump administration to ban critical race theory from federal government.
Visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation, Chris.
I started our discussion, welcome back, with that video because that video of an officer in full combat dress is from somebody called Mike Gilday, who holds the rank of CNO, which is the Chief of Naval Operations.
It's the highest officer in the U.S. military responsible for our Navy and our Marines being able to do their warfighting jobs.
And that video wasn't from last week.
It wasn't a reaction this weekend to Tucker Carlson and Fox News.
That was from the last year.
That was the Chief of Naval Operations making a video to the whole fleet, all the sailors, all the Marines across the United States saying, you know, my issue is racism in the military.
Chris, what we're seeing happening right now has a far longer trail to it and a far deeper origins, does it not?
Yeah, it does.
And I think what we're seeing, and especially in the last year, is that all of our elite institutions, including the military, have been really cowed into the kind of mantra of anti-racism.
And I think the problem is that someone like this, this soldier, military brass, failed to separate the premise from the conclusion.
So the premise is true.
This is obvious.
All of us would agree.
There's been a history of racism in the United States, just like any other society.
Throughout history, we can agree on the premise, but what they do is they jump straight to the conclusion from the Black Lives Matter organization or the Democratic Socialists or the critical race theorists like Ibram Kendi.
They have a prepackaged set of solutions, but a truly wise leader, which I would love to see, especially in our military, because it's so vital.
Would be able to separate the premise from the conclusion.
It would say, hey, let's acknowledge the existence of racism historically.
Let's acknowledge even the persistence of some residual racism.
How can we come together to fight this in a way that unifies all Americans?
But unfortunately, people are so scared that they automatically accept not only the premise but the conclusion from the race theorists.
Frankly, don't follow.
They're not logically coherent.
They're not actually good for our society.
They prey on division rather than unification.
And I think it's tremendously dangerous to see it in a place like our military.
The military exists to fight and to win wars, not to propagate HR programs from anti-racism diversity trainers such as these.
So, critical race theory is the latest phenomenon, it's the most obvious, the most blatantly corrosive, but let's go back in time.
You've done lots of fieldwork, you've written seminal pieces, given interviews that I think are responsible for the fabulous response of the last administration, but critical race theory is just one facet of critical theory.
So can you walk us through the origins of where this phenomenon or where this way of thinking actually originally came from, Chris?
Yeah, critical theory, you know, started in the 1930s and then, you know, really through kind of came to full fruition in the 1960s.
And these are basically left-wing Marxist intellectuals from Europe who had seen the disaster of actual Marxism and communism in the Soviet Union.
They also realized that Marxism and communism would never be able to come to fruition in the United States and in Western Europe, which had large middle classes that they weren't, you know, in revolt against the bourgeoisie.
So they really started to think, how can we adapt Marxism, not on economic terms, but along social, cultural, and then racial terms?
How can we foment the kind of social revolution against capitalism through cultural politics and the cultural revolution?
And many of these folks celebrated the cultural revolution in China, which ended up in the deaths of millions of people from purges and persecutions, And after that was again shown to be a human disaster that led to death and destruction.
They morphed it again into critical race theory, trying to come up with a legal and kind of intellectual framework to oppose the American Declaration of Independence, the American Constitution, the 14th Amendment guaranteeing equal rights, and even in many cases the Civil Rights Act.
Critical race theory is not an extension of the American civil rights movement.
Actually, it's in many cases opposed to the civil rights movement, and all Americans should be aware of that distinction because What they try to do is they say Black Lives Matter and critical race theory inherited the mantle of Martin Luther King.
But if you look at their intellectual work, in many ways, they're opposed to the vision of Martin Luther King.
Why?
Can you unpack that?
Why is Martin Luther King's vision antithetical to Black Lives Matter, for example?
Well, in the 1960s, you had two competing visions of civil rights and equality.
You had the Martin Luther King vision that famously proclaimed that he wanted to treat people based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.
So this was equal protection under the law, protection of individual rights, protection of a kind of colorblind society that would allow minorities and other disenfranchised people to rise in our society.
There was another vision, though.
This was from Malcolm X. This was from the Black Panther Party.
This was from Angela Davis and the Communist Party USA.
They said, no, no, no.
Equal rights is merely a sham.
It's a disguise that would enable capitalism and white supremacy to continue to thrive.
We need total revolution against the United States as a nation.
It's irredeemable.
It's fundamentally corrupt.
Thankfully, the vision of the Civil Rights Movement, which again was not just Black Americans, but was Americans of all racial groups and even Americans of both political parties, it won the day.
But again, we see this kind of revival of that old tradition of radicalism, of revolution, of kind of Marxist-inspired ideology that is creeping up into our discourse again today.
Now what is the end state?
If these are individuals who have realized because of the writings of Gramsci or Alinsky or others that you can't affect, in a non-agrarian, non-feudal society, you can't have a Marxist revolution as happened in Tsarist Russia or in China in 1948.
You can't do that.
So we're going to change the class division basis for this ideology and break it down into Heterosexual versus homosexual, white versus black, the heterosexual versus the transgender.
If that's the case, is this just, and I don't want to oversimplify it, I'm trying to get inside the mind of these people, people like Kendi and Angela Davis, is this just a veiled, a cloaked version of Marxism?
Is this just a repackaging?
And if they say America is irredeemable, which they do, then what is the end state, Chris, that they are trying to achieve?
Well, this is kind of the trick.
They've become very kind of clever with their language, and they never say, we want a Marxist revolution over the United States, but it really is embedded in their theoretical ideas.
And Ibram Kendi famously says, you can't be anti-racist without being anti-capitalist.
So again, a kind of basic Marxist economic foundation of anti-capitalism grafted onto a kind of new wave idea of so-called anti-racism.
If you look at even someone like Cheryl Harris, a professor at Harvard and UCLA law schools, who is a foundational scholar in critical race theory, she says, you know, we need to actually suspend private property rights for a time so that we can redistribute land and wealth, seize it from the wealthy and redistribute it along racial lines.
So this is, again, the kind of basic beginning of socialism.
I mean, it's socialism and Marxism in another guise.
It is, and I think that it's quite clear.
And then again, Ibram Kendi, the kind of new guru of this movement, he put out an article in Politico stating that he wanted to have a department of anti-racism that was not accountable to any other branch of government, that could veto, nullify, or eliminate any law in any part of the country, and also have the power to regulate speech from policymakers and think tanks and journalists.
And that if you were not anti-racist, the government could silence and punish you.
So you have critical race theorists arguing against capitalism, against the Constitution, against the idea of individual rights, against private property and against free speech.
Guess what?
When you're against all five of those fundamental American values, you are advocating for a kind of radical revolution, even if you don't say it.
So I think we should be very aware of the endgame, very aware of the theoretical foundations, and push back very aggressively against this.
Because if they had their way, it would truly be the end of America.
And I know that that makes most Americans You know, sad.
That seems like a tragedy.
But for these critical racers, the end of America is the beginning of their utopia, the beginning of their beautiful world of human liberation.
And that's what they're seeking and striving for.
which has worked so many times before in the 40 nations where communism was attempted and led to the deaths of more than 100 million individuals.
The End
The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End The End
Thank you.
So you mentioned some of these anti-capitalists, these people who wish to destroy America.
Tell us who they teach, who they consult to, and the kinds of monies these anti-capitalists like Robert Angelo, Angela Davis and Ibrahim Kendi make.
So as anti-capitalists, they're doing quite well, aren't they, Chris?
Yeah, and that's really the rub, right?
I mean, no one is really anti-capitalist.
If you look at the four remaining, the three rather remaining socialist and communist countries in Asia, you know, China is a communist country, Vietnam is a communist country, I believe it's Cambodia is the third one.
They all have a smaller government as a share of GDP than the United States.
Actually, in practice, the government of the United States is more socialistic than all of the remaining socialist countries.
Everyone knows that capitalism is the great generator of wealth, and for a lot of the critical race theorists, they preach anti-capitalism because it's fashionable, it's chic, it's perceived as high status, but they all practice the lives of vicious and greedy capitalists.
They want to accumulate resources and money.
They'll take money from oil companies, from technology companies, from everybody to kind of feed themselves from the capitalist machine.
They justify it by saying that this is simply redistribution.
This is simply taking the fruits of illegitimate capitalist capital accumulation and redistributing it to the great kind of proletariat minds that make up the vanguard of this revolution.
And if you look throughout history, the communists have always impoverished the poor and enriched the powerful.
This is a thing that has happened in every communist revolution since the very first one in Russia in 1917.
The cadre, the elite, the party members always suck up the wealth and labor of their countries in order to further their political goals while impoverishing the people that they're purported to help.
It's no different in the kind of hyper-capitalist United States than it is in the hyper-communist Soviet Union of a hundred years ago.
Well, the only difference is that everybody lived in drudgery who was a member of the working classes.
No darches and no Zelle limousines for anybody, no matter how hard they tried.
But what I want to ask you is, with those who are preaching this here, how are they doing?
How are the anti-capitalists?
Talk to us about white fragility and Robin DiAngelo.
How much has Robin DiAngelo charged for one of her white fragility seminars?
Yeah, Robin DiAngelo is an amazing figure.
She's kind of like, if you were to come up with a parody or a caricature, it couldn't get better than the actual real person.
And, you know, she gives white fragility seminars.
I think she's getting paid something like $20,000 for a one-hour Zoom call.
And, you know, on one hand, all power to her.
I'd love to get paid $20,000 for a one-hour Zoom call.
I hope I get there one day.
I'd have no shame in it.
But you wouldn't like to get that whilst Teaching anti-capitalism.
There's a bit of a contradiction there, isn't there?
That's exactly right.
I would do it as a proud capitalist and supporter of capitalism and as a reflection of my value in the marketplace.
But this is really the kind of paradox.
Someone like Robin DiAngelo teaches that all whites, including white women, are racist.
And yet she seems to be centering her own voice more than anyone else and sucking up all of those anti-racism training dollars for herself.
The hypocrisy is a reflection, not of a kind of moral contradiction, but a reflection of their actual political and social power in our world as it exists today.
They're able to preach something that is antithetical to their practice, but they can do it and get away with it because they hold the levers of power.
Conservatives won't improve our country by simply complaining about hypocrisy.
We need to fundamentally change the landscape of power in our country so that his hypocrisy like this is actually punished, not rewarded.
OK, now that's a pretty big sentence.
I think we could spend the next three hours on that sentence, how we we use the levers of power to reverse that.
But let's just stop here for a second, because I think this is you use the phrase.
This is a nub.
Well, here's the rub of the issue.
You say, and I agree, politically.
Pointing out the hypocrisy.
I mean, one of our dear callers just texted me saying, oh my gosh, did you hear how much the Secretary of Homeland Security just lied about the border?
And I feel like telling this nice lady, what were you expecting?
Were you expecting that he would deny there's a crisis at the border?
And you've just hit the nail on the head.
The hypocrisy is the point.
You cannot do anything.
Nothing will change.
I was saying, well, look.
She teaches X, and she's doing Y. She's anti-capitalist, anti-American, getting on a Zoom technology to earn $25,000 for a 50-minute lecture.
So pointing out the hypocrisy is irrelevant.
The question is, what do you do about it?
So I'll let that simmer for a second.
We'll wrap the discussion with that.
But right now, You have the sources.
I think you're probably the best connected individual when it comes to gathering or being provided the evidence of what is actually going on, not just in the corporations and through the mandatory HR sessions, but in US government, in the bureaucracies and in the US military.
So for those who think this is just some abstruse analysis that has no relevance to anything that the real life is about, will you give some concrete examples?
Of what is happening in these corporations, in these departments of government and in the US military.
What are people being told they have to do and how are they being treated by these experts on social justice and critical race?
Yeah, I mean, it's foundational now.
At West Point, the United States' most prestigious military academy, they're now teaching leadership courses on critical race theory and queer theory.
This is something that they believe that our soldiers need as kind of leaders.
And reflect the kind of deeply held American values.
So it starts at West Point and it doesn't stop.
I've talked to many soldiers and enlisted people in the Air Force, in the Navy, in the Army.
They say they're getting constantly barraged with political messaging.
They're getting constantly pressured to endorse and bend the knee to Black Lives Matter.
And that this focus, this kind of kind of very monomaniacal focus on diversity, so-called diversity, is actually detracting from their ability to work together towards the mission of protecting the United States.
And even our nuclear weapons engineers, I reported on a story from the Sandia National Laboratories, the people who design our nuclear arsenal, white male executives were forced to attend a white male re-education camp.
in which they were asked to renounce their white male identity.
They were told that being a white male is analogous to the KKK and lynchings and slavery and other historical evils, and then forced to write groveling letters of apology, just like in a Maoist struggle session.
So this is truly everywhere.
And one other story that I'm working on that should be coming out in the next few months is they're even reinstating racial segregation at government agencies like the Veterans Administration.
Or they're having separate training sessions and separate HR programs on the basis of your skin color.
So we enter this bizarre world where the so-called anti-racists are in reality the neo-racists.
They're reviving racial segregation.
They're reviving racial centralism.
They're reviving collective guilt.
They're reviving ugly racial stereotypes about people.
Even our bravest men and women in uniform are frankly too scared to stand up to it.
They're too scared to speak out because they don't want to be the one in the room that is denounced in this new kind of cultural moment.
I think we've got the title for Chris's new book, The Neo-Racists.
That's very, very good.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
I'll see you next time.
Thank you.
Are you getting any stories from people saying, uh, sorry, uh, I'm an immigrant from, you know, Eastern Europe.
Uh, I'm not responsible for slavery in America.
I'm not writing an apology letter for my racism.
Are you getting anybody say, no, this is nuts.
I'm not doing it.
Or are people too cowed?
I am actually, I'm getting a lot and your intuition is exactly spot on.
The most kind of courageous people that I've come across in my reporting are people that immigrated from Soviet or socialist or communist countries.
I've talked with a lot of Chinese Americans that have begun to push back.
They've told me, hey, look, I survived the cultural revolution in my home country.
I'm not going to let the cultural revolution happen in my new country.
I've talked to Eastern Europeans that say this reminds them of Soviet-era propaganda when they grew up with children.
I even spoke on a report about woke education to a woman who was born and raised in Iran.
And she said, what's happening in my child's classroom is exactly what was happening in my classroom that was run by the mullahs.
This kind of religious fanaticism, and it terrifies me.
So we have, you know, we are the beacon of hope for the whole world.
People that want to escape real oppression around the world have historically flopped to America.
And I think it should be deeply disturbing that they're setting up warning signals, that they're saying, wait a minute, what's happened to us in our previous life is now happening here.
We have to take those voices seriously.
We have to elevate those voices, and we have to get everyone together to fight back.
If my father were alive today, a man who was liberated by freedom fighters from a communist political prison, if he were alive today, I'd have to tie him down.
We're recording this as I'm watching a Fox News Chiron.
This is right now.
Columbia University is going to hold six separate graduation ceremonies based upon race.
It's there.
And this is where it gets beyond Orwellian.
This is where you have to laugh a little.
That's where it gets into Monty Python.
These are online.
So you're not actually having to sit next to the white person if you don't want to.
These are segregated virtual graduations.
This is the level of insanity we are dealing with.
We're talking to Chris Rufo.
Follow him right now.
Chris Rufo.
His movie AmericaLostFilm.com.
Let's get to the praxis, where the rubber meets the road.
What are the transmission belts?
This is like a virus, like an ideological virus being introduced into the corporations, into the government bureaucracies, into the military.
How does it get injected?
What is the mosquito that does the bite?
I would imagine for corporate America, you're the expert, let me just guess, for corporate America, It's the millennials or the kids who graduated 10 years ago with their useless bachelors of arts in gender studies who become the HR department drones who end up as the head of HR and then use their indoctrinated garbage from Berkeley, for example, to impose that ideology on the inside of the corporations.
Is it something as simple as that?
And how does it work in government?
Yeah, it is.
That's part of it.
And the landscape of power and transmission is really fascinating.
And it obviously started in the universities.
I think another main point of transmission is graduate schools of education.
So teacher trained programs.
If you look at the most prestigious teacher training programs, such as the one at Columbia, I mean, they are explicitly left-wing.
They're basing their entire pedagogical theories on a guy named Paulo Freire, a Marxist theoretician from Brazil, who said that we need to use the education system in order to gain revolutionary consciousness and overthrow the oppressors.
This is now becoming the dominant pedagogy in many public school districts around the country.
And then I think in government we find something very interesting, and this is something where I would challenge conservatives to revise their opinion.
Ten years ago, we made fun of those kids with gender studies degrees from Barnard.
And, you know, these were kind of BS degrees.
And that would lead them into unemployment or underemployment or some kind of basement dwelling.
But in fact, something different happened.
These BS degrees turned into BS jobs as equity development directors, as directors of diversity and inclusion, as microaggression investigators in campuses.
You now have entire bureaucracies that are dedicated to this ideology in almost every major institution in the country, including and especially public institutions.
So you have these massive bureaucracies that are unaccountable to the marketplace, unaccountable to the profit motive, unaccountable to the public in many cases, Where there are internalized political divisions.
And you would remember from your European history and Eastern European history, every good government office or bureaucracy would have a political officer, right?
That is there to maintain ideology.
Who was as senior as the person who was actually doing the work.
There was the Zampolit, who had to ensure political purity for everybody else who was actually doing the stuff.
Well, guess what?
We are in this strange position where we now have an official state ideology that is kind of left-wing identity politics-based.
And we have official commissars of ideological purity in most of our institutions.
And this is how they function in practice.
This is what I'm learning through all of my investigative reporting.
And this is the hard part, right?
Because as conservatives, we are truly on the outside of the institutions.
And we're facing against a permanently funded state bureaucracy that is essentially weaponized against the people, against middle class values, against American history.
And this is extremely dangerous.
And conservatives have to get sophisticated in how we dismantle, deconstruct, and then decentralize the bureaucracy and return power back to American families, communities, and individuals so that our values can be reflected in our institutions, not reflected in the kind of elite program from Columbia not reflected in the kind of elite program from Columbia Teachers College and elsewhere.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So I promised we'd get back to that question of how we leverage our power and how we respond.
But let me ask you the personal question.
We had I'm sure you've met him.
We had James Lindsay on who's written the book.
Uh, critical theories, which goes into quite some detail.
I mean, I love this stuff.
I'm a wonk at heart, but it goes into some real, real detail on, you know, why queer theory really happened, the role of queer theory, the connection to, you know, racial justice and blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I asked him, I had to, because, you know, as the child of people who suffered under totalitarian regimes, I said to this guy who was born here, why are you doing what you're doing?
Why are you You know, deciding to take on the Goliath.
Why are you walking into, you know, Ariadne's maze as a lone researcher?
And he said, and I love his response, he said, I just saw too many of my friends suffering injustice, you know, across academe, being pilloried, having their careers destroyed because they didn't want to acquiesce to this political dogma.
Let me ask you, Chris, I've seen your film, which It doesn't relate directly to what we're discussing, but I think there's a very strong overlap, or there's at least a tangent that connects us in terms of what's happened to America in your film, America Lost.
But let me ask you, why are you the guy who triggered the executive order in the Trump administration banning critical race theory?
What was the motivation for you to grasp with this Medusa?
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty simple.
I love this country.
I love what it stands for.
I love what it fights for.
And I think that I saw this hole, this opportunity, this problem that conservatives had not developed a new vocabulary to fight these threats.
And I thought I was uniquely positioned to be able to articulate it and also given the kind of courage to fight for it.
And I think that we need to kind of come together and fight around these inspiring ideals and not let them be degraded and debased and destroyed.
And I just, I have a heart for it.
I have a heart for people that are suffering, for people at the margins of our society.
And I saw very clearly that critical race theory is the kind of elite ideology that serves the status of people who are already fine and well off.
But actually, embedded in that theory is something enormously destructive for poor and vulnerable people in our country.
And if we want to actually help poor people, if we want to help broken families, if we want to help racial minorities live the full expression of their human potential and contribute to the United States to the fullest extent, we have to fight this ideology because it's poisonous, it's pessimistic, and it's anti-American to the core.
Right, so this is crucial and I think why your film is so unique that I've seen untold documentaries on poverty and the forgotten men and women in America and they're usually very prosaic, very pedestrian.
You approached it from a different angle and I think it was far more illuminating Make the connection to what we've been discussing for the last 30 minutes.
Why are these people hurt by what we have discussed?
Why is critical race theory, why is this dogma in particular, not just bad for Hollywood actresses like Gina Carano, but really, really, in terms of mass effect, most damaging to the hardest working Americans?
Yeah, I mean, you know, you and I and Tina Carano will all be fine.
But I think that the problem is that there are three institutions that get people out of poverty.
First is the family.
Having two parents to divide labor or to work is extremely important.
The second is work.
Obviously, you have to have earned income to not be poor.
That's kind of truism.
And then the third is educational attainment.
Actually learning skills, developing skills, and then expressing them in your contributions in the workplace.
And critical race theory takes those three institutions that we know give you a 97% chance of escaping poverty.
If you get married before having kids, if you graduate from high school, and if you maintain full-time employment at any job, You have a 97% chance of not being in poverty, but critical race theory actually condemns all three of those.
Critical race theory wants to break up the family.
They say the family is the vestige of patriarchal oppression, and that single motherhood is actually a form of liberation, even though we know it just traps people in poverty.
Critical race theory rejects entry-level employment, so people who want to get that first step on the income ladder, that first job to provide an income.
Critical race theory says no, that's actually an expression of capitalist exploitation, and people shouldn't have to work for a living.
They should be provided for by the government, which we know, again, provides a kind of welfare trap that keeps people poor.
And then third, education.
You know, we've seen minorities and immigrants, such as the Asian American community, excel through education, work their way up from coming in poverty to within one generation being successful.
But critical race theorists, they actually know we reject merit-based education.
We reject measuring people on the merits.
We reject grading people on the merits.
We reject standardized tests that allow people to show their skills.
We reject any kind of merit-based education.
Education should simply be a kind of political indoctrination or a political activism program.
And these three things, if you destroy the family, if you destroy entry-level work, and you destroy a kind of merit-based education system, you're going to destroy the very ladder that people need to climb in order to escape poverty.
Let me just explain for those who are reeling from what Chris just said, especially the last point.
How can merit-based anything be bad?
The point of these, I won't call them philosophers because they don't deserve it, but these ideologues say merit-based anything, measuring others by merit, is oppression.
Correct?
Yeah, that's correct.
They call it the myth of meritocracy.
They say, well, it's not just meritocracy.
It's not a neutral program.
It's actually white supremacy and capitalism and oppression.
And they reject it.
They say that people should not be measured by their achievements or their contributions or their skills and talents.
People should be measured and then given kind of distribution of resources based on identity categories.
So, you know, Sebastian Gorka, he is a straight white male, he should be given two bowls of soup.
This other person is a black trans female, they should be given eight bowls of soup.
And they believe in the distribution of resources based on identity categories, rather than a kind of measurement of skills or achievement.
Do you believe that America is the greatest nation on God's earth?
Are you a part of the Make America Great Again movement?
I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump, and I want to give you the opportunity to share your values.
And blast them around the world in what you wear.
Yes, take the America First message, whether it is about the president's anti-woke agenda, whether it is about stopping the vaccine mandates, my body, my choice, or just telling everyone how you feel about this shining city on a hill.
Check out all our amazing gear That's SebGorkerStore.com.
including all of my books.
That's SebGorkaStore.com.
Send the left a message today.
The End
The new Secretary of Defense had a universal shutdown of the military for 60 days after the inauguration to find the extremists and the white supremacists.
It's just frightening.
He used the word enemies in his Senate hearing to talk about people inside the U.S.
military.
What should be the response of people like you and I, who have a platform, the senators, the political commentators, to address that version of critical race theory in its most obscene?
And then secondly and lastly, to those who aren't Chris Rufo or Seb Gorka, what do you say to those who are really intimidated by cancel culture?
Yeah, well, the military question is fundamental because you've seen throughout history what happens when the military enforces political ideology.
I mean, this gets into very tricky territory very quickly.
Certainly the attack on Tucker Carlson is way out of line.
The senior members and the responsible people in the chain of command should immediately crack down on this because what will happen is that the military will be perceived as a domestic political tool that will then alienate half the country from From the troops, which I think would be catastrophic for the country and for the military in particular.
But the average everyday person, look, you have to speak out.
You have to develop the courage.
And I would give you one single tip that will make you, in some ways, immune to cancel culture in your local community.
The people who have successfully pushed back against this within local institutions have always rallied a group.
It's very easy to cancel one person if you're standing up at a school board meeting.
But if you have 10 people or 20 people or 50 or 100 people, you can't be cancelled in the same way.
So get together, develop a coalition of like-minded people from a diversity of backgrounds, and be very clear in your language, be very strong in your convictions, have the courage to take the heat, But push back, because we can do whatever we want intellectually, we can do whatever we want with legislation, but unless the American people and the actual average citizen stands up within the local institutions that matter, you know, we can't solve this from the top down.
It's got to be done simultaneously from the bottom up.
One patriot, easy to cancel.
Ten patriots, a hundred patriots, not so much.
Follow him right now at Chris Ruffo, real Chris Ruffo on Twitter.
Director of the Discovery Institute's Center on Wealth and Poverty, the movie America Lost.
You can watch it at americalostfilm.com.
He's also a contributing editor to City Journal, visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
Any other place they should check you out, Chris?
Yeah, if you want to, you know, check out all my latest work, it's at ChristopherRuffo.com.
You can also sign up to be a small patron.
That's extremely helpful.
And, you know, this is the fight.
I think this is the fight.
We've identified the ideology.
We're now starting to unmask how it exercises political power.
And conservatives need to wisen up and understand that, you know, we should have courage.
I always like to say it's kind of tongue in cheek, but it's actually true.
We defeated communists abroad in the last century.
We're gonna defeat the communists at home in this one.
So get ready, battle up.
Americans are always sometimes late to the conflict.
We wait to the last minute.
But we always win and this is just the same thing and we have to come together on it.
I do think Winston Churchill said very much the same thing and his mom was American.
Export Selection