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Sept. 29, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Mark Milley and Sec. Austin throw Biden under the bus

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	That is really disappointing to me.
	I know it's disappointing to people that have served with you or under you, under your command.
	And it does not serve our nation well.
	You talked a little bit earlier about the damage.
	And you said damage was the right word to use when assessing what has happened in Afghanistan.
	When you look at America's credibility, So how do you look the men and women in the eye that have served under your command?
	How do you look Young men in the eye that are coming to our military academy days and who want to serve and say, you can depend on me.
	I've got your back.
	Because you know what?
	I think a lot of these families right now, they don't feel like you have your back.
	The special ops guys I met with Friday, In my office in Nashville that are taking their time, their money, and risking their lives to do a job that the three of you could not do.
	Maybe we're going to remember you three as the three that broke the military.
	I don't know.
	But this is causing just a lot of anger from people who have trusted the military They have felt like the military was one of the most trustworthy institutions.
	But in order to get a name in a book, in order to not be drawn into a political fight, what you have managed to do is to politicize the U.S.
	military, to downgrade our reputation with our allies, Nobody has resigned.
	Nobody has submitted their resignation.
	And we've got thousands of people watching this hearing today that are looking at you all and saying, I can't believe they're sitting there and not answering the questions and are trying to punt.
	I yell back.
	Punt.
	The polite word for it.
	God bless Marsha Blackburn.
	You are the three people who may have broken the American military.
	That was yesterday during the Senate hearing with the CENTCOM commander, with the Secretary of Defense, and with the most senior military officer in the United States, Mark Milley.
	Who dodged questions.
	Who wouldn't answer the important questions about our surrender in Afghanistan.
	And somebody called them out.
	And you know why?
	She has more guts than most of all the politicians combined on Capitol Hill.
	I was reading the chyron as that was playing, as that clip was playing.
	I was reading the lower third of description.
	And what did it say about Marsha Blackburn?
	Yeah, that's right.
	Perfect, Eric.
	It says right there, Marsha Blackburn, Republican, Tennessee, serving in the U.S.
	Senate since, oh, 2019.
	So she's been there for less than two years.
	That's why she has courage.
	Because she's not a politician.
	Because she's just arrived.
	And all she cares about is the truth.
	Just one thing that came out of yesterday's hearing.
	It's continuing today in the house.
	We'll give you updates.
	We're going to have amazing guests here.
	You don't want to miss a second.
	But just one thing.
	I mean, forget the fact that Mark Milley praises the racism of critical race theory when he also says in front of Congress a few weeks ago, I don't know what it is, but it's great.
	And the fact that we're teaching at a West Point, that's really superb because I'm white!
	And I want to understand white rage because that's what happened on January the 6th.
	Excuse me?
	What is race?
	You pandering, overweight snowflake.
	What has race got to do with the last election and angry voters?
	Nothing!
	But you want to virtue signal to your political masters.
	If it's possible, let's ignore for a second that you have admitted you called the Chinese equivalent of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	That you haven't denied that you gave him a heads up, totally illegally, because you have no role in the chain of command and say, don't worry.
	If that crazy guy, the President, if President Trump is going to declare war with China, I'll give you a heads up.
	I'm on your side, you commies!
	I'm a commie too!
	Is that why in 2015 in combat at a NATO summit, you can see the video right there, he says, China, not our enemy.
	Really?
	Because China thinks America is her enemy?
	Why would you say that?
	Then why do you think it's your duty to be Communist China's man inside the Pentagon?
	Let's put that all to one side.
	Your love of bigoted propaganda like critical race theory created by Derek Hall, Biden's mentor at Harvard.
	Which states, the textbook states, if you are white, you are racist.
	You may not know it, but you're racist, which itself is a statement of bigotry, the antithesis, the opposite of what Martin Luther King Jr.
	told us.
	I want my children to live in America where they are judged upon the content of their character, not the shade, not the palette of their skin.
	You racist!
	Let's pander it to racists.
	Let's ignore that.
	Let's ignore that you are China's inside man in the Joint Chiefs.
	But what we found out yesterday, this gives you the measure of who he is.
	Not just Mark Milley, the swamping general.
	That's why I don't talk to journalists.
	Mark Milley admitted yesterday that for that pathetic pseudo journalist Bob Woodward, For his new blockbuster dishing book of scandal.
	Mark Milley gave him hours of interviews.
	Hours?
	Hours?
	Sorry.
	How busy should the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs be?
	Just curious.
	Is the Taliban is ready to take back Afghanistan?
	These are interviews he gave this stinking year!
	This year!
	Is the Taliban Is rising?
	Is China is building its military?
	Is Iran is threatening us?
	Is Russia is being ever more militaristic?
	You're sitting down for hours With an avowed, rabid, democrat, quote-unquote journalist to give inside scoops on how you stood up to President Trump by undermining the chain of command that you by the Constitution are not a part of?
	What the hell are you doing?
	Maybe those hours could have been spent, oh I don't know, reading the Long War Journal by our friend Bill Roggio where he predicted in March That the Taliban would be in control and Kabul would fall.
	Maybe you would better spend your time reading books like Cynical Theories.
	Reading the works of Chris Ruffo about what critical race theory really is and why it's racism and bigotry.
	But oh no, you had to be a politician.
	Not a politician, a political hack.
	Where are the honorable men in this city?
	Because you are not one of them.
	You are a disgrace.
	You are an insult to not just the uniform you wear, but the oath that I took twice as a servant of this government.
	And you are an insult to the United States Army.
	And the fact that you're not in jail, not in the brig, unlike that brave marine colonel for speaking the truth, is an indictment of this whole stinking swamp.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Another banger to start off the day.
	Yeah, it's the ones I don't rehearse, they're the best.
	They're the best.
	Alright, you can hit it now.
	Alright.
	I think we do top of the hour for the ins and outs and whatever.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm looking at what we've got and it doesn't make sense to do it any other time.
	Okay, okay.
	Think a title for that one?
	Martin Milley's an insult to America or something like that?
	Um...
	I said something near the end that kind of grabbed me as it was coming out.
	Is it insult to the uniform?
	Yeah, I think we kind of used that before.
	Okay.
	Oh, okay.
	This is just this video here.
	It's great.
	Mark Milley's greatest crime.
	I'm sorry?
	Mark Milley's greatest crime.
	Mark Milley's greatest crime.
	Alright, want the mics on or off?
	See y'all.
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	We are always delighted to have special friends in studio when they're coming.
	To the insalubrious swamp that is Washington DC and I am so especially delighted to have a fellow Hungarian-American who on her business card, I should put this on my business card, it says legal immigrant who invited me to address her group of angel moms and those who believe in illegal immigration on the steps of the Capitol not too many years ago and she's back in D.C.
	God bless you, Agnes Gibonyi, welcome back in studio.
	Thank you.
	My pleasure.
	So tell us what brought you here.
	What's the event that's occurring right now?
	I'm here with FAIR.
	They're holding an event called Feud to the Fire, where several angel families, angel moms and dads, are having interviews to tell their story.
	And as you know, Dr. Gorka, my son Ronald was not the only murdered victim.
	So let's hold that up a little bit higher.
	We've got video feed as well.
	So you're here.
	You are fighting the good fight because of people like Ronald de Silva.
	We'll show the other photographs in a moment.
	Talk to those who are not familiar with your story.
	Tell the story of Ronald.
	Ronald was murdered by a previously deported criminal illegal alien who had a long history of arrests and he was deported and came back to the United States, got arrested and the judge did nothing other than sentence him to three weeks in jail and released him on probation and about a year later he murdered my son.
	He intended to shoot someone else and unfortunately got my son.
	And then what happened to this individual who killed your son, Ronald?
	Immediately he fled to Mexico and the police found out that his girlfriend was depositing her welfare check at the credit union in El Monte where my husband was a deputy chief of police and so they were threatening to take her children away if she didn't tell him to come back.
	So eventually the second time they went down to pick him up he turned himself in the second time and was sentenced unfortunately by a very liberal judge LA County who pleaded with him to take a plea bargain from first or second degree murder down to voluntary manslaughter.
	Were you consulted in any of this with regards to the plea bargain that your son's murderer received?
	No, not at all.
	I trusted the legal system and I had no experience in this.
	I was very wounded.
	I was grieving.
	I was very confused.
	I was hurting so bad.
	I expected the professionals to guide me as to what my options were.
	Such a handsome man.
	Talk to us, you've come from the fair feet to the FIRE conference here in DC, where for two days every year they talk immigration reform, but you brought some other stories.
	Share them with us.
	Yes, I would like to share.
	Lacey Ferguson, who was also murdered by a criminal illegal alien.
	Ruben Morphine, who was executed, he was 14 years old, by a gang, I believe it was an initiation gang, and Josh Wilkerson, who was beaten, tortured, and set on fire.
	See, my son is not the only victim.
	There are thousands.
	You think, since 9-11, there are more than 80,000 Americans that are killed by illegal aliens in this country.
	So what are you doing with the other angel moms?
	What have you done so far?
	What's your plan?
	And what is your message to Americans across the country who haven't been so tragically touched by this open border as you have?
	For those that think open borders is a humanitarian thing, think twice.
	Because they are not being vetted, like my family was, for medical background investigation to make sure you have good moral character to come into the United States.
	We don't know who's coming in.
	We don't even know criminals are returning back to the United States who are already wanted for crimes in this country, which is absolutely absurd.
	And not fair to us American citizens.
	And Dr. Gorka, I would like to say something to you.
	As you know, Hungary took my family's citizenship away when my parents escaped.
	The United States is the only citizenship that I swore to protect the law and the constitution of this country.
	I gave my oath to the United States of America, not the United States Socialists of America.
	And when you see the images of thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants, just in one location, just in Del Rio, under that bridge, the 9,000 Haitians, the other 15,000 illegal immigrants, what do you think about the threat?
	To America?
	It's huge.
	And this administration is lying, or they're asleep, or they just simply don't care.
	Because how is it, my question is, where is the intelligence in this country that didn't know that these thousands of Haitians were headed to the border?
	Right.
	Caravans!
	Caravans!
	And they didn't just show up One second.
	This was planned.
	Where is our government protecting this country?
	It seems like from the top down, we have to clean house, starting with Biden.
	Get this demented guy, Sleepy Joe, out of office.
	Kamala Harris is useless.
	Hang on.
	She's the one who's in charge of the boardroom.
	Oh, she's the one that's supposedly in charge.
	Well, let me crackle about that because it's really funny because none of her children have been murdered or assaulted.
	But Mallorca needs to resign.
	He's a disgrace.
	Let's just be clear how much of a disgrace Alejandro Mayorkas is.
	This is the man.
	So my parents were real refugees.
	My father was liberated from a communist prison cell by the revolutionaries of 1956 in Budapest.
	This man, that man right there on the screens, has told those suffering right now in the communist state of Cuba who are rallying under the American flag shouting Libertad, Libertad, calling for their own liberation from communism.
	He is saying from the podium of the White House, from the podium of the Department of Homeland Security, don't you Don't you dare leave Cuba.
	Don't you dare try and escape that communist hellhole, as this year alone, this calendar year, we'll see two million illegal aliens cross our southern border.
	Those are the ones that we know about.
	And how do we know that this is the most heinous, the most evil person, as far as I am concerned, who's in the current Biden administration?
	Because this man arrived to America as a refugee child in the arms of his Cuban parents.
	That's how dark, how depraved, how black the soul of this man is.
	It was okay for him To escape to the greatest nation on God's earth as a child from communist Cuba.
	But those people who are stuck there now, they can rot in that socialist hell.
	We're going to continue discussing one of the greatest threats to America with my good friend, angel mom, Agnes Giboni.
	So the microphone's still on for the video.
	Mic's on.
	Yeah, it's just... If this doesn't make you wake up... What were the crimes that your son's murderer had been convicted of before?
	Oh, several robberies, burglaries, assaults, domestic violence.
	I mean, a history of burglaries, residential burglaries.
	And then your husband was deputy chief of police?
	In El Monte PD where my son was killed.
	Been married 38 years.
	Wow.
	You must have been married at 10 or something.
	I wish.
	I wish.
	No, I was in my late 20s when we got married.
	I was 27.
	And I'm going to be, gosh, 67 next month.
	Time is flying by, I'll tell you.
	I don't feel 67.
	I feel like in my 40s.
	It's all up here.
	It's all up here, exactly.
	My body is not lined up real well, but I'm doing good.
	As long as God gives me courage to fight, I will continue fighting, because my children, my grandchildren deserve to have freedom.
	How do you guys, is there an organization we can promote?
	Does the Angel Mom, is there some web page or something we should talk about?
	I started Angel Families of America.
	Angel Families of America.
	Yes, you can go to angelfamilies.com.
	Did you get that Eric?
	angelfamiliesofamerica.com.
	No, no, angelfamilies.com.
	No, no, no, angelfamilies.com.
	Angelfamiliesofamerica.com.
	And any angel family that has been victimized doesn't have to be just mom or dad.
	Call me, you know, if I can help in your case.
	Look, I got my own guy deported when ICE was telling me they couldn't do anything.
	So what was the thing?
	Because the last time we spoke, they were talking about probation or something, weren't they?
	They never gave him probation.
	It was just a straight release.
	He was released?
	He was released from prison November 22nd, 2019.
	After serving how long?
	About 17 years.
	See, the judge convinced him from taking a plea bargain from first or second degree murder, which he would have gotten 45 to 25 to life.
	Right.
	Down to voluntary manslaughter, 11 years.
	Plus 10 years for using a firearm, which California does not have gun enhancement charges anymore.
	Wow!
	So a gang can use a gun and they will not get additional time.
	Unbelievable.
	You know, for my son it's over, but it's not over for everybody else, because as long as God gives me strength and courage, I will fight for everybody else.
	Because today, yesterday it was my child, tomorrow it could be somebody else's.
	Right, right.
	And it's just a matter of time.
	God bless you.
	45 seconds.
	Five seconds.
	Okay, stand by.
	Oh, for Joe and Victoria? for Joe and Victoria?
	Yes.
	There was no January 6th insurrection.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Ten seconds.
	Stand by.
	Anyway.
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	We are back with my good friend Angel Mum, Agnieszka Giboni.
	This really shouldn't have anything to do with angel moms or immigration, but I want you to share with our millions of listeners what you said in the break.
	What happened to the illegal immigrant convicted multiple times before he was deported, came back and killed your son?
	What happened to the murderer of Ronald just recently?
	Well, he was released early.
	on November 22nd and ICE was telling me that they could not deport him because the release date was November 23rd or could be 22nd or 21st and they couldn't just plant themselves for 72 hours in front of the president.
	They couldn't wait to deport a convicted felon who killed your son?
	That's what I was told.
	And not only that, but I kept calling them to upgrade where he was being transferred from one prison to another three times in one month instead of them doing their job.
	I was my own detective.
	I solved my own case.
	And what happened to him?
	He was eventually picked up by ERO, enforcement removal officers, and deported back to Mexico in El Centro.
	Because of you?
	Because of me.
	Okay, first things first, if you want to find out more, God forbid, if you're from an angel family, please go to this lady's website, angelfamiliesofamerica.com.
	That's angelfamiliesofamerica.com.
	Before you arrived, you showed me your bag that has a very pretty Hungarian vizsla, hunter dogs.
	My father had a vizsla.
	And let's just put the insanity of the southern border into perspective.
	You bought your dog in Hungary, a Hungarian Vizsla.
	What did you have to do to get that animal into America?
	Well, I don't call her animal, although she's an animal.
	She's my baby.
	I'm just making a point.
	She needed a European Union pet passport.
	Pet passport?
	She needed a microchip.
	She had to have a microchip in her?
	Yes, she needed a vet certificate saying that she was healthy and she needed her pedigree papers registered in my name.
	So you had to verify her identity.
	That's right.
	And you had to make sure she was healthy before that dog, lovely dog, was allowed into America.
	Yes.
	Your reaction to seeing thousands, thousands of illegal immigrants who are throwing away their identity cards.
	I've got the evidence.
	I've got the photographs.
	Throwing them away before they arrive at the border who aren't getting health checks, who aren't getting a vaccine.
	Your reaction that it's harder to get a dog into America than an illegal alien, Agnes?
	It is disgusting.
	It is disappointing and an embarrassment to the United States of America.
	We are mandated to wear masks.
	We are told to stay home for a year and a half while illegal aliens cross the border without having any checks, without any COVID vaccine, no masks, no social distancing, none of that.
	This is the sheer insanity of what we are witnessing right now.
	What is your message?
	Last minute we have with you, Agnes, her website, agnesgibroni.com.
	She's on Twitter, Agnes underscore Gibroni, that's G-I-B-B-O-N-E-Y.
	What is your message to those on Capitol Hill?
	What should they be doing that they're not doing?
	Number one, enforce immigration laws.
	We don't need immigration reform.
	Enforce immigration laws.
	Obey the Constitution of the United States that this country was founded on.
	And if you can't or you won't, they need to be removed.
	In a communist country, those people would have been put against a wall and shot.
	Yeah, because they're not doing their job and because they're endangering the nation.
	In this country we have to get rid of them politically, so we have to organize and we have to replace them, correct?
	Correct.
	If you can run for office, hold your elected officials accountable, give a lot of pressure, but most of all I want to say don't give up hope on the United States of America, because frankly sometimes I feel hopeless.
	But we cannot be hopeless.
	But you don't give up.
	I don't give up and never will give up.
	For the souls of people like Ronald, for the photographs, show them again, Ronald, Lacey, then we have Ruben, Anthony, and we have Josh.
	For just them, Let's hold our politicians responsible, and if they don't execute the laws of the country, let's replace them with people who will.
	God bless you.
	Her website, angelfamiliesofamerica.com.
	Keep doing what you do.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	What an amazing interview.
	God bless Agnesh, angel mom.
	We've got a caller from another angel family on the line.
	We'll get to Karen, Ray and Leonard momentarily, but it's that time of the week we have to check in with our market expert, our economic maven.
	She is the host of the Trish Reagan Show on Salem, TrishIntel.com and on Twitter at Trish underscore Reagan.
	Trish, welcome back to America First.
	So good to talk to you.
	Good to talk to you as always, Seb.
	So the liner, I love the, you know, the liner we came up for you with that ABBA music.
	It starts with the question from Deep Voice Dave.
	Does the Fed know what it's doing?
	That's the only question I'm going to ask you this week, Trish.
	The answer is, in some ways, yes, but that's not good for us.
	In other words, they are quite deliberately printing money, so they know that they're doing that.
	But the question is, what is the outcome of that policy?
	And the outcome is not a good one.
	It leads to more inflation.
	Simultaneously, you and I have not spoken since the president came up with this brilliant little number.
	That his three and a half trillion dollar stimulus plan is actually going to cost us zero dollars.
	Yeah, but it's not just him, Trish.
	You want to talk about voodoo economics.
	It's not voodoo economics indeed.
	It's not just the man who sadly bears the title of president.
	It's the Speaker of the House as well.
	Here's Nancy Pelosi.
	Cut eight.
	Do we have cut eight?
	Oh we don't, that's right.
	Of course, of course Eric is escorting Agnes out of the building because that's how gentlemanly we are.
	So I will just do the best channeling of Nancy Pelosi possible.
	Trish, Nancy Pelosi said don't worry about the cost of the three, four, five, six, seven trillion dollar bill because the amount is zero.
	I'm no economist, but Trish, how do you do that?
	Well, what they've realized, Seb, is that people know that taxes will go up under this spending plan.
	They're trying to tell people something that's just not true.
	I mean, I'm appalled and I find it incredibly discouraging and disheartening that we have leaders like this in place right now that would just so blatantly lie to the people of the United States of America.
	But that's what's going on because they've realized they're not going to get to second base on this $3.5 trillion thing.
	They've got to somehow convince people that it really doesn't matter, that this is quite literally monopoly money, which is something that the head of the Budget Committee, a Democrat named John Yarmuth, actually said over the summer.
	We played it on my program this week where he actually said at a Rotary Club meeting, you know, you really don't have to worry about this.
	We don't have to balance our checkbook like a business.
	We are the U.S. government and we are like the banker in monopoly.
	We print the money, everybody else plays the game with it.
	Well, that is positively irresponsible, it's absurd, and it really just kind of turns my stomach to think that these people are mortgaging our future as they are, and our children's future, with this idea that somehow it's not going to cost anything.
	You better believe that it's going to cost us all.
	Plenty, plenty.
	All of these programs they put in place ultimately hurt the middle class and poor Americans the most.
	You know what happened under President Trump's economic team there?
	We saw median incomes for the first time, for the first time in decades, actually go up.
	And that's a justice for inflation.
	What you're seeing now is real, real incomes, real wages have gone down 1.2% in the last year and they're going to continue going down.
	So, you know, look, this kind of stuff gets me very, very upset when they are so cavalier and frankly dishonest about what's really happening.
	But it's not just voodoo economics.
	It's not just, you know, the phrase you mentioned of, you know, mortgaging our grandchildren and our grandchildren's future.
	If you treat... I mean, I've got to find that audio cut from Yarmouth.
	I'm going to listen to your podcast.
	Just saying it doesn't matter because it's plain money.
	Hang on a second.
	If you just keep printing it, then the pot of money you make bigger means that every flipping dollar is worth less.
	Am I missing something, Trish?
	No, you're totally right.
	And this is what, you know, this is what happened in 1930s Germany, let's be very clear.
	I mean, this is what's happened Throughout Latin America, I've had friends that have gone to work down in places like Brazil during times of mass inflation and the stories they would tell me are just incredible about, you know, working for a bank, like a, you know, a big-name American bank and yet still having to get paid almost every day in cash as restaurants would slash their prices and keep upping, upping, upping the prices every hour.
	Look, inflation is a really bad thing, and the reason why you can't just keep printing is because then you effectively devalue your currency.
	The U.S.
	dollar today, Seb, is worth 15% of what it was in purchasing power in 1972.
	So a dollar in 1972 would get you a whole lot further.
	Well, guess what?
	If you're saving your money in dollars, or if you plan to, you know, if you're going to be on a fixed income, Your dollars are not going to go as far.
	And what they do is they reduce everyone's standard of living over time by printing and printing and printing.
	And, you know, maybe it helps them politically in the near term because they look like they're giving out all these freebies, but effectively it reduces everyone's standard of living.
	And they know this.
	That's what you say.
	Does the Fed know it?
	Yes.
	Everybody knows this.
	They don't care.
	Yeah.
	We've only got a minute left and I have to ask you to read the political tea leaves.
	We get conflicting reports every single day.
	Is the spending spree going to go through?
	We're hearing they're having problems with the radical Dems, but then we find out 14 Republicans may support Pelosi.
	Is your expectation that she's going to get it over the line?
	God, I hope not.
	I'm pretty pessimistic on it.
	If this happens, we need to hold those 14 Republicans and any Democrat that voted for this accountable.
	It will cost us so much.
	I mean, there's Obama seeming like he's really quaint when he actually talks about, oh, the border kind of matters, right?
	And this is really untenable what we're doing.
	Don't forget Obama's plan Remember that one?
	$800 billion.
	That almost feels 0.2.
	I mean, $3.5 trillion.
	I'm sorry.
	Look, I don't think the government, if it does shut down, will shut down for long.
	Um, but I certainly don't want to see them get this through.
	I think it would be far too costly.
	The good old days when $800 billion seemed quaint.
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	Karen, welcome to America First.
	Hi, it's Erin.
	I just wanted to call and say mostly just thank you to Agnes Gibonet and moms like Marianne Mendoza and Some of these other angel moms who have just been warriors for all of us.
	My brother was shot and killed by a three times deported drug trafficking illegal immigrant 19 years ago.
	And it's been a journey.
	It took us five years.
	My brother's killer fled the border to Mexico after he killed my brother.
	How old was your brother?
	He was 33.
	He was a deputy sheriff with L.A.
	County.
	And his name was Dave March.
	Unbelievable.
	Aaron, sorry.
	Thank you for sharing your story.
	Stay on the line.
	I want to say thank you for calling us today and sharing that heart-wrenching story.
	We'll send you one of my books by way of thanks and gratitude.
	How many Americans have to die?
	How many Americans have to be killed at the hands of illegals?
	More than two million will cross our border.
	God bless you, Aaron.
	Let's go to Ray in Livermore, line one.
	Our good buddy.
	Hey, Ray!
	Hey, Dr. G, thank you for your monologue and your guests.
	Just a wonderful show, as usual.
	When I met you in San Jose a couple years ago, you asked me what's important about the show.
	And I told you having fun is important.
	And it's so difficult to have fun right now when I call your show, Dr. G. So I want to About these disgusting generals who have no shame and no fidelity and no regard for the chain of command or civilian leadership, the rank and file, the truth, anything.
	They've proven themselves to be not worthy of the uniform and they should place their rank down on the table.
	And I'd really like to link this to what you just did with Trish and the devaluing of our currency.
	This administration is devaluing everything, Dr. G. Our military is being devalued under these fake four-star generals.
	Our children and our sense of honor and pride and work is being dishonored by Pelosi and her bills for abortion and willful.
	This is just complete devaluing of things that America has done.
	You know, I'm going to write.
	You are always such a massive contributor.
	I'm going to take it to the next level.
	I'm going to channel you, Ray.
	What we are witnessing right now, whether it's the border, whether it's Milley, whether it's the Fed, is the devaluation of America.
	Yeah, you've inspired me.
	I'm going to use that phrase with your permission.
	I'm going to write something that leverages and channels that thought.
	It's what they're doing.
	They hate America, so they devalue it by every stinking action they take.
	Stay on the line, Ray.
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	Back on.
	I have Skype loaded up, so we'll be ready for when she calls us.
	Oh, I thought she was on the line.
	She was, but then they said something was going on and they switched off of... Something was going to.
	Could they be more vague?
	Something was going on.
	There we go.
	We should have him now.
	Okay, you got me?
	Oh, no.
	He's coming in.
	Can you hear me?
	Hello?
	Hi.
	Keep talking.
	Can you hear me?
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5?
	We can now.
	It's very... Yeah, he came in like a robot.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's weird.
	Well, we connected at 3 and...
	It went away.
	Keep talking.
	1, 2, 1, 2.
	Here, I'll disconnect and reconnect.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, 55 seconds.
	1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2.
	What are we getting that for?
	Why is it so crappy?
	Some kind of interference, yeah.
	That's weird.
	It shouldn't be.
	Hmm.
	Do you want to go back to dot 3?
	Yeah, here.
	I'll switch it real quick.
	You'll dial me?
	No, no, no.
	But I've got to switch to another board.
	Alright, so it'll take me a second.
	I'll do it.
	Okay.
	We have 30 seconds.
	That's the work.
	we may have to prep the phone as a backup.
	Okay.
	Stand by.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	Does that be better?
	Making sense out of today's news.
	Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka. - Uh, We always check in with our West Coast warrior princess to discuss matters Californian, but of late given the nature that the craziness in one of our erstwhile most beautiful states Seems to be spreading across the country.
	Let's talk about some national issues first.
	She's the host of The Morning Answer on AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, also CRNtalk.com.
	Jennifer Horne, welcome back to America First.
	I love to share my crazy with all of you.
	Oh, thanks a lot.
	Thanks a bunch.
	You're welcome.
	I'm all about giving, you know.
	Okay, so is this a crazy California infection?
	It's one thing for the senile old man in the White House to say that three and a half trillion dollars actually costs nothing, but now crazy Nancy's doing it.
	Cut eight.
	Play cuts.
	In terms of giving people an update as to where we are, the President is negotiating, as is well known.
	I keep reading it in the Daily Metropolitan Journal about that, and it is what is happening.
	And we're hoping that we can come to a place.
	It's not about a dollar amount.
	The dollar amount, as the President said, is zero.
	What is the Daily Journal anyway?
	Is that like, ooh, I read the Washington Post, therefore I'm so sophist.
	So is that a California crazy that three and a half trillion equals zero, Jennifer?
	Oh, hang on.
	Hang on.
	We're having some technical difficulties.
	The gremlins are in the works.
	Say that again.
	Okay, let's call her up.
	Let's call her up on her phone because I don't know who's doing it, but somebody is undermining our connections.
	Or is it just the fact that California has ceased to function so badly that we can't make a Comrex radio connection?
	As we do every single Wednesday to Jennifer Horne.
	In the meantime, follow this lady, show her some love, at Jennifer Horne.
	Jennifer Horne, are you with us?
	I'm telling you, it's a conspiracy.
	They're trying to keep the truth-tellers apart.
	They're everywhere.
	They're everywhere.
	Okay, so is this, is this, does this smack of California to do, to you that three and a half trillion actually, is that California math equals zero?
	It's common core.
	And I was just saying, you know, I consulted my favorite publication, the National Enquirer, and said, you know, that this whole idea that this package cost of zero dollars is so absolutely ridiculous.
	I had I heard someone I don't know where I'm stealing this from, but I am stealing it from someone who said even if you buy a cup of coffee or someone gives you a cup of coffee, that coffee is now It doesn't have a cost associated to it.
	That coffee has a value.
	There is nothing for free about... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Are you telling me that if somebody gives me a cup of coffee for free, the coffee beans weren't picked for free, the coffee beans weren't roasted for free, the coffee beans didn't magically transport themselves to America for free, and weren't sold in a shop that has no rent?
	I hate to break it to you.
	They did not jump into your cup for free.
	They had value.
	And this is such a ridiculous lie about what is going on with our economy.
	They want you to believe that nothing has value.
	They want you to believe that the government can fix all of your problems, when the truth is that this stuff costs money.
	And even if you look in their tax plan and read it, which I'm sure all of these members of Congress who are out there showboating around have not, The bill is somewhere around $4.5 trillion to $5 trillion, by all accounts.
	Stephen Moore is a friend, our chief economist on my morning program, The Morning Answer.
	He says it's about $5 trillion, and only $2 trillion of it is paid for in taxes.
	And these taxes, another lie, it's not that it's just going to go after the rich.
	These are going to go after the middle class, the people in the middle who can't afford to pay increase.
	Capital gains and who cannot afford all the trickle down from the rich that are going to pass it down to the rest of us.
	It's unbelievable the amount they want to increase the IRS alone.
	Can you imagine the IRS is already big enough as far as I'm concerned.
	They want to increase that and go after everybody who earns more than 600 bucks.
	It's crazy.
	No, it's sheer insanity and it has to be stopped.
	Let's focus on California.
	Somebody called Eric wrote a piece at one of our favorite websites, American Greatness, amgreatness.com, amgreatness, with regards to a bill that the newly It's not reinstalled.
	What shall we call Gruesome Newsome?
	The newly... The survivor.
	The surviving nephew of Nancy Pelosi, the governor of California, has signed into law which makes California a vote-by-mail state.
	I got to ask you, is there anything that can be done about this or is it just now carved in stone, Jennifer?
	Well, he's been very, very busy since surviving the recall.
	He's been passing bills that are going to allow young people to get gender reassignment surgery.
	He passed a bill that would allow kids to get abortions without their parents' consent or knowledge.
	And this vote by mail is probably the most devastating to California because we have such bloated voter rolls already.
	We have 1.8 million more ballots going out than we do registered voters.
	in the state, and they know this, and they want to do this because they want to win elections.
	And with this new law, it's going to be very difficult.
	And you know I like to be optimistic, but it is going to be very difficult for a Republican to win statewide office, I think, for the foreseeable future, quite frankly, with this new bill in place.
	But I do think that there is some hope.
	I always find the silver lining.
	If the Republican Party in California gets smart and listens to the grassroots that were the ones who were behind driving at least the recall election of Gavin Newsom, And Because there's plenty of opportunity in the state.
	I was looking at the numbers that came in for the recall.
	And would you believe the Secretary of State is still counting votes?
	We're still about two million votes short of having this thing done.
	Two million?
	Yeah, just about.
	The exit polls figure that there were about 13 million voters They have about 11 million votes counted.
	And so they are still counting and adding to the total.
	Right now, Larry Elder's at three point, about just short of 3.5 million votes that he received.
	If you add in the votes given to all the other 46 candidates on the ballot, there were about seven and a half million people that voted for someone other than Gavin Newsom in the election.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Isn't that more than voted for President Trump?
	Yes, if you add in all the candidates.
	Yes, if you add everyone together.
	So 6 million voted for President Trump, 7 million voted for somebody who wasn't Gruesome Newsome.
	How many votes at the moment did Gavin Newsom get?
	He's at about seven and change for the yes vote, essentially.
	So there is some hope.
	There are people who can be swayed, I think, in this state.
	And it's going to be very important for the party to do a couple of things.
	One of them is to go after the independent voters.
	Twenty-four percent-ish of the state of California's registered voters, they declined to state their party preference or their independence.
	That's a huge opportunity for Republicans to try to convert those people to Republican voters if we focus on quality of life issues, which are the schools, crime, the economy, things that matter, the gas prices to people in California.
	And I think the other thing that really is important is we need all of our conservative lawyers together.
	I spoke to Eric Early, who's running for attorney general next year, and said today, you need to get on this.
	We need every conservative lawyer in the state suing the county register voters to clean up the voter rolls.
	We had some success in L.A. County.
	They threw out about 100,000 invalid voters from the rolls in the last couple of years alone.
	We need to do that in every single county in California because if we are going to have mail-in ballots, which is the foreseeable future now for us in California, we have to make sure the voter rolls are as clean as possible to try to tamp down on fraud.
	But beyond that, if this is now a mail-in state, What about the old soar that soars for the goose and soars for the gander?
	Can't Republicans play hardball?
	Can't we do ballot harvesting?
	Can't we get organized like the left?
	And that's exactly what needs to happen in the state.
	We need to continue.
	In fact, Republicans got pretty good at ballot harvesting.
	We had a great success story.
	Our friend, our mutual friend Don Dix, who is my former partner.
	We used to do the Jen and Don show together.
	He still does the show.
	on AM 590, The Answer, in the Inland Empire.
	He is also running the Central Committee for Riverside County, and he came up with this new software.
	He's got this new plan that he implemented in Riverside County.
	They're the only county that voted yes on the recall in Southern California.
	And it essentially targets your voters.
	It sends them text messages.
	It sends volunteers to their door if they haven't cast their ballot so that someone can go collect their ballot for them.
	It was extremely successful in Riverside.
	Huge props to Don.
	And if the Republican Party doesn't roll this out in every single county, then they don't really want to win elections.
	Unfortunately, what happens with the Republican Party in California, like at the national level, is we get caught up in all the nonsense.
	There is no doubt going to be a push to figure out, are we going to support a squishy candidate like Kevin Faulkner or someone like Larry Elder in 2022?
	We need to forget about that and focus on tactically how we can win the state back.
	It's time to play hardball.
	No more pussyfooting around.
	No more Marquis of Queensbury rules.
	It is now 4.16 on the East Coast.
	Pelosi is in the White House desperately trying to get the votes.
	Working on a strategy with the senile old man for her three and a half trillion dollars.
	Back with Jennifer in a moment.
	Mic's on.
	Mike's on.
	Hi, you want to try connecting to the Comrex again?
	Or should we just stick on the phone?
	Just leave the line open and let's let's try the Comrex again.
	All right.
	All right, which one should I do?
	Do you want dot three or four?
	Dot three or four?
	Dot three.
	Have you been having any trouble with Comrex today?
	No, we haven't been using it though.
	I have a phone though.
	Yeah.
	Just the phone, yeah.
	Yeah, the phone's good.
	One two, one two, one two.
	I want to get a hardline.
	I'm fed up with this voice over IP.
	That's coming in.
	We just should pay for a regular service.
	Okay, let me turn this down.
	Just, you know, at least one hardline number.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Okay.
	How does... On one, two, one, two.
	That's good.
	Test, test, test.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Hello, hello, hello.
	See, the funny part is... Two, one, two.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Hello, hello.
	Yeah, it's good for now.
	It's holding up.
	So why don't I just leave my phone on mute?
	Yeah, we'll just keep it right here and I'll just pick it up.
	Yeah, I'll have it muted over here and then I'll bring it up if we have a connection issue.
	Technology.
	Technology.
	So guess what I was out gallivanting in this weekend?
	No, don't make me jelly.
	What were you doing?
	I was gallivanting in my America First hat this weekend.
	Oh, good!
	Gallivanting.
	Is that representing?
	Represents.
	So you got everything back from Grant?
	Well, I always had the hats.
	You gave me the hats.
	Oh, good.
	So, yes.
	Good, good, good.
	And that's what I was wearing this weekend.
	Can you get Cassio to post the Marshall Blackburn?
	Cut 13.
	She was good.
	Did you see Ronnie Jackson today too?
	No.
	It was just a silly question.
	When are you going to resign?
	One woman who's tougher than almost everyone else on Capitol Hill.
	What did he say?
	He just said, so General Milley, when are you going to resign?
	And Milley says, because he was asked that yesterday.
	So he's been asked before by Tom Cotton, I think it was.
	But when he was asked by Ronny Jackson, he goes, I serve at the pleasure of the president, sir.
	But he was so exasperated.
	Unless the president is Donald Trump.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I talk to everybody who will listen about how terrible he is.
	The crazy thing, looking at the numbers of the recall election, is that, as of right now, if you consider the yes votes to be equivalent of the Republican candidate and no votes the Democrat candidate, it's the exact same vote totals as the 2018 election of Newsom versus Cox.
	It sure is.
	Oh, it is?
	Yeah, 7.8 for no and 4.7 for yes, which is pretty much exactly what Newsom had got over Cox.
	What was the split of the other candidates, Republican and non-Republican?
	Most of the more serious candidates were Republican, but yeah, I think there were fewer Democrats and Republicans.
	A lot of Independents.
	But yeah, I totaled it all up today because Grant was arguing with me because he just thinks people should leave California.
	And you know, I have to stay here and fight.
	I'm like, let's run the numbers.
	So I was running the numbers.
	And so yeah, there's 7.9 million, I think, if you total up all the 46.
	Out of a population of how many?
	Oh gosh, what is our population?
	Let's see.
	It's a lot more than that.
	It's like 20 seconds?
	Well, there's 22 million registered voters in the state.
	Yeah, but a total population... Alright, 15 seconds, stand by.
	I'm gonna TF cut 10.
	Okay.
	And we've got this car here.
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	And don't be a snowflake.
	Don't be like Greta Thunberg.
	Cut to end.
	This is all we hear from our so-called leaders.
	Words.
	Words that sound great, but so far has led to no action.
	Build back better.
	Bla bla bla.
	Green economy.
	Bla bla bla.
	Net zero by 2050.
	Bla bla bla.
	Hang on a second, Build Back Better, isn't that Biden's motto?
	Is it just blah, blah, blah, Jennifer?
	I think that's what we should call it.
	It's BBB, right?
	Build Back Better, blah, blah, blah.
	Somebody's angry.
	Finally, we agree with Greta.
	Yes, we finally agree with Greta Thunberg.
	How crazy is that?
	How dare you?
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Stop it.
	Behave.
	Behave.
	OK, let's continue to have, let's have some fun.
	Do you know who Russell Brand is, Jennifer?
	I sure do, yes.
	He's irritating, I know.
	He's got a silly accent.
	Well, he's kind of funny, but he always looks like he needs a shower, doesn't he?
	He looks like he needs a shower and a haircut.
	He looks like he's been living in a box every time you see him under a bridge.
	That's who Russell Brand is.
	By the way, dude, I'm from England.
	I know the accent is fake, okay?
	Stop faking it.
	Do you think so?
	Oh, I know.
	Oh, no.
	I know, because I can tell when it slips.
	He's like Madonna.
	I know when it slips.
	From Michigan with an English accent.
	It's like, oh, I'm so common.
	And then suddenly it slips.
	I ain't so common.
	And it's just such a fake.
	However, he is, uh, I don't know how.
	He's in the light.
	Yeah, he was.
	I don't know how much of an influence he is on the left, but at least he was.
	And man, has he ever seen the light.
	Let's share this with our millions of listeners.
	This is Russell Brand who, I don't know, woke up Cut 5.
	Seems like years ago that we were hearing that Trump was colluding with Russia, that he wouldn't have won the election without Russia, that his whole presidency was a kind of Putin plot.
	Well there's now serious evidence that it was the Clinton campaign and Hillary Clinton acolytes that were directly involved in the generation of what has proven to be a conspiracy.
	Untrue!
	Think about how much media you watched.
	Me, a person who I think broadly speaking is from the left, a liberal, Certainly not a Trump support in Republican with respect to those of you that are.
	I find myself in awe, gobsmacked, flabbergasted and startled by these revelations that Russiagate was a democratic conspiracy.
	I'm really common, but I use words like acolyte and flabbergasted, because that's how common I'm not.
	And I say Putin and Clinton.
	Dude, give it a rest.
	I think this is your new Halloween costume.
	You should get a wig, a dirty wig, and be Russell Grant.
	Baggy t-shirt, fake tats, scraggly beard, and I'll be Russell Grant, pretending to be common.
	What?
	What?
	Nones don't even have long hair.
	Behave.
	You're having too much fun.
	Behave.
	This is not a Monty Python.
	But isn't it interesting?
	He just called it a plot by Hillary Clinton!
	Russia collusion!
	And he's a leftist!
	You know, maybe I'm being, I don't know, I'm just, I'm tired of all the negativity, so maybe this is just some optimism, but I feel like even dopes like Russell Brand are finally waking up, like they finally get it.
	You can't be the news media and lie about everything and then have it come out three or four years later without people starting to catch on after a while, and I swear, When I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe, when I start agreeing with Bill Maher, but it's happening more and more and more.
	But doesn't he do it to get a rise out of people?
	Do you think he, because he still rides around in limos drinking champagne and caviar.
	The guy's still a complete champagne socialist.
	Well, of course, but he's also a comedian, or at least that's what he pretends to be on television, and he knows that cancel culture does not work, so he's speaking out against the super woke, against the cancel culture.
	Russell Brand now waking up going, wait a second, they were lying to us about Russia this whole time.
	The whole story with Afghanistan, it's unraveling now after the hearings we've been watching for the last couple of days, and mark my words, there is I'm not rooting for this because I hate that our country is so divided right now.
	I mean, it's divided on every front.
	Race, politics, VAX status.
	But as soon as the basketball season starts, you better watch out because this is going to get amped up with the war with the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated.
	What's happening in LA?
	Tell us the latest restrictions they're planning for Los Angeles.
	Yeah, well most, and just to finish up on this on the basketball issue, most public spaces are not going to let the unvaccinated come in.
	So when you have black celebrities, when you have basketball players who are now not going to be allowed to take part in their livelihood or serve their fans, this is going to be a really, really big issue.
	It's only going to blow up in the next couple weeks.
	And in Los Angeles, The vaccinated got a, well, I guess a little loss.
	The unvaccinated a little win.
	The city council today considered a measure to make it impossible for people without a vaccine to go to restaurants, shopping malls, tanning salons, a gym, anywhere that's indoors and the public is around you, we're not going to be able to go.
	Inside, unless you could prove your vaccine status, the City Council chickened out today after voting all in favor of supporting this to move it forward.
	Last week, they're now waiting another week to push it down the road because there's been pushback in California.
	It's not all conservatives.
	Is anybody demonstrating?
	Is anybody going out on the streets saying no?
	You know, they're not huge, but there are demonstrations almost every weekend in front of City Hall.
	They had to ban protests in front of City Council members' homes because people were getting harassed.
	The mayor was getting harassed.
	People were setting up shop on their private residence on their lawn, and they didn't like that anymore.
	So, of course, they have to block that, but people are still at City Hall almost every weekend protesting this, and the schools are now going to be impacted.
	The LA Unified School District, as of October 3rd, is requiring That kids over the age of 12 have to have at least one shot to use the school to participate in extracurricular activities.
	So celebrities I think like Russell Brand and Nicki Minaj and Rihanna and the NBA players, these are people that are starting to see truth and fighting all together on the same side with us.
	Those names that you just rattled off, that's all in one week, Jennifer.
	Rihanna's t-shirt, Nicki Minaj, that's in less than a week.
	It is.
	It's happening fast.
	And I think the more they talk, the more people are going to be less afraid to come out and fight for their own rights.
	Because it takes one, right?
	It always takes that brave person to come out and start talking.
	And then the rest sort of follow into suit when they realize that they can actually They can show their opposition as well.
	They can say, wait a second, the media lied about Russia and they can cry about it like Russell Brand.
	I mean, this is what it's going to take for people to wake up.
	What a crazy idea that people should start thinking for themselves, doing a little bit of research on their own and actually questioning the people who say, don't worry, we've done the work for you.
	What is it Fredo said?
	This is, you know, classified information.
	You're not allowed to read it.
	We are.
	Yes, Fredo.
	Follow this lady at jenniferhorncrntalk.com.
	God bless you.
	Keep doing what you do.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Thank you, my dear.
	We made it!
	We did.
	Did it sound okay that time?
	Yeah, that was great.
	Sounded fine, yeah.
	Okay, good.
	I wonder what was going on.
	The gremlin.
	Just some hiccups, yeah.
	Just some hiccups.
	Alright, have a good day, you guys.
	Thanks, say hi to everybody.
	I will.
	Alright, bye now.
	Alright.
	Cool, cool.
	Alright, hang on.
	How do we make sure that we're good for Mark tomorrow?
	Ooh.
	Um...
	We'll have Matzka do a test early in the morning.
	Okay.
	Yeah, tomorrow's Thursday.
	Yeah, he'll be in.
	Yep.
	That's right, it's marked.
	Okay, got it, got it, got it.
	So we've got Uprising.
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	There's one specific NBA player in particular who plays for Golden State in California and he's, Andrew Wiggins, he's not going to be able to play any home games because they denied his religious exemption.
	Oh really?
	Yes.
	So, that is a developing story.
	I'm not sure if anything's come out on that in the last few days, but I know... Is he famous?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	He was a former number one overall pick.
	Wow.
	So he is, uh... Very interesting.
	Very interesting.
	Titles?
	Trish and Orhorn.
	Is California done?
	Yes.
	Alright, and Trish.
	And Trish, um...
	Have they sold your future down the river?
	My question with California moving forward with this stuff is how many businesses it's going to interrupt that go over state lines.
	Oh, interesting.
	If you don't allow people indoors.
	Again, Andrew Wiggins' example was the first that it sort of popped up, but these mandates, vaccine mandates and needing a vaccine passport are going to interrupt a lot of sports and I assume a lot of other industries where people have to cross state lines.
	Right.
	Do you like the shutdowns?
	A year later, the courts will say, oh, they didn't have the power.
	Yeah.
	At that point.
	I just... Yeah, so the damage is done already.
	I feel like lower profile people, you're going to start seeing that, you know, fraudulent vaccine passports come out.
	Oh, it'll be the biggest new industry.
	Forget, you know, fake driver's licenses.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Fake vaccine passports.
	It's not just conservatives that are against it either.
	No.
	It's the dumbest political move ever.
	What do you mean to do that you now have to set up another barrier to entry to places that did not have a barrier to entry prior to now?
	That's just, that's never going to win.
	That's never going to be a winner.
	You're trying to get your businesses back up on their feet and then you're putting another barrier to your customers between you and them.
	It's wild.
	It's so clever.
	And now of all times when we're, this isn't the heat of the pandemic.
	You know, we're not in the thick of it right now.
	It's pretty much over, honestly.
	Yeah, I mean, we've got really good therapeutics, really good treatments.
	Do you believe it's not real, Eric?
	Are you watching?
	Hey, Zachy Poo, get typing.
	Sorry, carry on.
	COVID doesn't exist!
	It's a phantom virus!
	Deniers!
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	Find a tweet from Bill Mitchell, like from two years ago, why don't you, you sad individual.
	Did you read the article?
	I tried to, it's just so badly written.
	It was present tense, like it happened yesterday.
	I know, I know.
	All right.
	We've got 15 seconds.
	Stand by.
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	We need some of those caller liners.
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	Let's go to waiting very patiently in New Jersey.
	Can we save New Jersey?
	Let's ask Leonardo, line two.
	Well, for Jack Chitorelli in San Felino, Murphalini, back to his 50 million dollar estate in Italy.
	Thank you.
	But I wanted to say, God bless Angel Mom Agnes and all the Angel Moms, and especially Agnes and Persons like yourself that are Hungarian legal immigrants to this country.
	You are a tough bunch.
	Listen to what this lady... I really... It's amazing.
	And, you know, you add to that, like, Maximo Alvarez, the Cuban immigrant, right, that was on the Republican National Convention.
	That's who's... Those people plus Anybody that was in the military in the last 20 years and got used and abused by the permanent leadership class.
	But I just wanted a note too with these immigrants that are coming, whatever, refugees that are unvetted and unvaccinated.
	Fake refugees, come on Leo, fake refugees.
	If you're pitching your ID, if you're trashing and shredding your ID before you cross the border, that means you're not a refugee.
	Right, it's nice to hear that California just legalized fraud ballots.
	But anyway, these two Afghanis, now it's the second incident, the one at Fort Bliss where the lady, the military was attacked.
	Now there were two more Afghanis that attacked an underage, sexually assaulted another American citizen.
	And, you know, it's also coming over that border.
	financed and manipulated by the Chinese with the cartels.
	Look, somebody's paying for it.
	We've seen the footage now.
	It's not just what was happening nine months ago.
	The Haitians from Chile, the Haitians are wearing Let Us In Biden t-shirts.
	They're not buying those t-shirts.
	Somebody's buying them for them.
	Thank you, Leo.
	Great call.
	Let's go to Sylvia, California, line three.
	Hi, Dr. G.
	How are you?
	Good.
	Good.
	Did you see the Shack on Instagram denouncing celebrities and saying they're all crazy and that he wants nothing to do with them?
	He's going to retire from being there.
	Yeah, I did, and Shaq's cool, and, you know, he can do whatever he wants, but it's a little bit weird.
	He says, I am no longer going to be a celebrity or live the celebrity life as he was launching a new ad campaign for something like, I don't know, Kellogg's Rice Krispies.
	There you go!
	Exactly!
	Sorry, I want to give up smoking as I'm, you know, toking on a big cigar.
	That's not quite how it works, Shaq.
	I wanted to know if you saw that.
	Hey, we keep abreast of things here, Sylvia.
	This is America First.
	That's right.
	And did you hear all the mandates that our cult leader Gavin Newsom is trying to input all the time now that he supposedly is not being recalled anymore?
	I like that.
	I think we should call him a cult leader.
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	That cheese, that cheese, that uh... Grilled cheese.
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	I love a good club sandwich.
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	Of course it's good.
	Bacon!
	Okay, I'm going to play the Rogan Cut, but I want to come in with Mr. Gates.
	Cut 2.
	Cut 12.
	Is there anything else?
	Is that super important, Jeff?
	We've got Pelosi done.
	We've got... Oh, let me hear Fauci 1.
	Cut 1.
	The vaccine is safe in women who are Oh shut up.
	Play Bolton, cut four.
	The data are very, very clear.
	What we don't want to do is see women who, for some reason or other, are hesitant to get vaccinated when they're pregnant or wanting to get pregnant and then have a negative impact on their pregnancy.
	You could protect yourself, your pregnancy and your fetus by getting vaccinated.
	Clay Bolton, cut four.
	Bolton, cut four.
	He was motivated and Mark Esper, then secretary of defense, motivated by intelligence reports that the Chinese leadership worried that in this kind of chaotic environment they saw, they might be subject to a wag the dog style attack.
	So the notion that through a number of different levels that the US government... Kamala, cut six.
	Over the summer, there have been protests and demonstrations and astronomical numbers standing with Palestine.
	But then just a few days ago, there were funds allocated to continue backing Israel, which hurts my heart because it's an ethnic genocide and the displacement of people, the same that happened in America.
	And I'm sure you're aware of this.
	And I bring this up also because of the issue of how Americans are struggling because of lack of health care, public health care, lack of affordable housing, and all this money ends up going to and funding Israel and backing South Arabia.
	I'm glad you did.
	And again, this is about the fact that your voice, your perspective, your experience, your truth... Okay, that's super important.
	I'm going to use that.
	Cut seven quickly.
	The week from hell on Capitol Hill.
	Congress has less than two days to head off a partial government shutdown, and after that, the potential collapse of the U.S.
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	I love talking to you guys.
	I love doing my monologues.
	Getting angry in front of three million people.
	It's like therapy.
	I get paid to rant.
	It's fabulous.
	But we've got to give you the news.
	This is a fabulous, fabulous cut from yesterday's congressional testimony from those disgraces to the US military and to America.
	Matt Gaetz fries them with his verbiage.
	Cut 12.
	General Mill, you kind of gave up the game earlier when you said you wanted to address elements of your personal conduct that were in question.
	We're not questioning your personal conduct.
	We're questioning, in your official capacity, going and undermining the chain of command, which is obviously what you did.
	You've created this whole chain of communication narrative.
	I did not undermine the chain of command in any manner that it performed.
	Yeah, you did.
	You absolutely did.
	I did not.
	Well, you know what?
	You said yesterday that you weren't going to resign when Senators asked you this question.
	And I believe that you guys probably won't resign.
	You seem to be very happy failing up over there.
	But if we didn't have a president that was so addled, you all would be fired.
	Because that is what you deserve.
	You have let down the people who wear the uniform in my district and all around this country, and you're far more interested in what your perception is and how people think about you in insider Washington books than you care about winning, which this group isn't capable of doing.
	Hey, Mr. G, is that the best Gates?
	Your adult president?
	If he weren't adult, you would have been fine.
	Is that good or what?
	It's pretty good.
	Pretty good?
	No, January 7th when he screamed at the Democrats about, for once you guys aren't going to defund the police.
	That one was a little better.
	Oh, that is good.
	But they're both good.
	Anyway, tell John we gotta post the second half of that when he says, adult and you should be fine.
	We need that video to go viral.
	It's so great.
	We were talking to him from the cloakroom of the Congress two days ago.
	Was that?
	Yes, Ike.
	I can't keep track.
	It's a crazy, crazy time.
	OK, God bless you, Matt Gaetz, for doing what you do.
	OK, another cut to show you how we got to where we are today.
	Unbelievable footage.
	We need to post this as well.
	George Mason University.
	You can see the thing in the background, the board.
	This is a student talking to... What is Kamala Harris doing at...
	George Mason, shouldn't she be at the border checking people's temperatures, giving them COVID tests?
	I mean, that would be interesting.
	That would be, you know, doing your job, Kamala.
	This is what some brainwashed little snowflake says about Israel.
	And listen to Kamala's response.
	Cut six.
	Over the summer, there have been protests and demonstrations and astronomical numbers standing with Palestine.
	But then just a few days ago, there were funds allocated to continue backing Israel, which hurts my heart because it's an ethnic genocide and a displacement of people, the same that happened in America.
	And I'm sure you're aware of this.
	And I bring this up also because of the issue of how Americans are struggling because of lack of health care, public health care, lack of affordable housing, and all this money ends up going to, In a nutshell, this brainwashed drone says Israel is committing ethnic genocide.
	I'm glad you did.
	And again, this is about the fact that your voice, your perspective, your experience, your truth, should not be suppressed.
	Okay, it's there.
	In a nutshell, this brainwashed drone says Israel is committing ethnic genocide.
	Ethnic genocide?
	Which race, which nationality was almost genocided out of existence in living memory?
	Wasn't the Arabs.
	Wasn't the Muslims.
	It was the Jews, you silly little girl.
	Genocide?
	What's your label for the Katyusha rockets launched in their hundreds and thousands onto the suburbs of Tel Aviv, you sad little unthinking drone?
	Oh, and then Kamala's response.
	Your truth?
	Your truth?
	Is it genocide or isn't it genocide?
	One man might have an effect on these little drones.
	He has a rather popular podcast called The Joe Rogan Show.
	And this is a slightly better little clip.
	Joe Rogan, audio cut, 11.
	As soon as you give politicians power, any kind of power that didn't exist previously, If they can figure out a way to force you into carrying something that lets you enter businesses, or lets you do this, or lets businesses open, historically, they are not going to give that power up.
	They find new reasons to use it.
	Oh my god.
	We have to protect those freedoms at all costs, whether you agree with people's choices or not, because it is the foundation that this country was founded on.
	Freedom.
	This idea of freedom, there's so many people that think it's frivolous, it's not important, it's not the main thing that we should be focused on, but it is the literal structure that allows this country to be so f***ing amazing.
	Every single country that's ever existed other than the United States, up until 1776, every This is the first experiment in self-government that actually worked, and it created the greatest superpower the world's ever known.
	It created the greatest cultural machine, the greatest machine of art and creativity and innovation right in here.
	And how did it do that?
	It did it through freedom.
	And as soon as you see something, anything that comes along and inhibits your freedom, you should be very cautious about it.
	You should be very suspicious.
	Because anything that comes along that can inhibit your freedom is, by definition, anti-American. - Now the music's irritating, I know.
	John Jr's gonna find me a version that doesn't have that music over it and we're gonna post it.
	Some of historical interpretations might show a less than mmmm textbook, but he nailed it.
	Why?
	Why is America the greatest nation on God's Earth?
	Is it geography?
	Is it culture?
	It's freedom!
	And that's, to quote Joe, and he nails it, that's why we defend that freedom at all costs.
	That's a powerful message.
	God bless Joe Rogan.
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	Merch video.
	Merch video.
	I was cutting up some of the graphics today.
	I just haven't gotten it done yet.
	When?
	Um, I probably got, since I'm not cutting everything for tomorrow, we have a guest host, then I could probably get it done tonight.
	I could probably get done, yeah.
	What's wrong?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I've got to tell you exactly when I've got to get done.
	A saying that Seb loves to reference from Star Wars.
	Yes, do or do not.
	Or do not.
	There is no try.
	I got the gif yesterday.
	Well, the only thing, I've got all the visuals cut together.
	Okay.
	And I need to get the audio.
	I don't have any audio for it yet, which will probably take another hour to get all the audio situated and sorted.
	And then I've got to fix, I finished the motion graphics that I'm doing.
	So, I would think about tomorrow after work is probably when I finished.
	Do not.
	There is no try.
	I will expect it tomorrow after work.
	That sounds good.
	I can make any final touches then.
	All right.
	Looking good.
	All right, we got about 50 seconds.
	Yes.
	I didn't know there was an ethnic genocide going- that the Jews in Israel were perpetrated.
	That's news to me.
	I wrote an article about that incident for AG today.
	Why is he running for re-election?
	The girl?
	Oh.
	I don't know, my wife just told me.
	Is he 89 or 88?
	He's pretty old, yeah, he's up there.
	He'll be 112 when he's finished.
	But that girl on that clip with Kamala, she identified herself at the beginning of her question as half Yemeni and half Iranian, so... Yemeni-Iranian.
	Yep.
	Alright, coming with color.
	Oh nice, good.
	And when you're done with that, I need a clean version of that.
	Okay, yes.
	I will see what I can get done on that front.
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	United Airlines just fired 600 employees on Biden's mandate.
	don't get the third hour today's third hour with a very special guest you don't want to miss it let's go to your course joe illinois waiting very patiently line four welcome to america first doctor hey uh united united airlines just fired 600 employees on biden's mandate why has this not been brought right to the supreme court oh It's going to be.
	It's being challenged across the country, but it was only declared, what, ten days ago?
	The wheels of law turn a little bit more slowly than that, Joe.
	Yeah, these are US-based corporations.
	They need to adhere to the Constitution, doctor.
	Yeah, we cannot have medical apartheid.
	It's wrong for so many reasons.
	And look, I'm not saying we're going to win.
	There's privacy between... Yes!
	My vaccination status?
	That's protected by federal HIPAA laws.
	There should be no medical segregation in this country.
	We'll see how affected organizations that support this show are, like the Alliance Defending Freedom.
	We've got to bring those cases to them, and their lawyers will start the fight.
	Thank you, Joe.
	Mike Myrtle Beach, Line One.
	Dr. Gorka, thanks for taking my call.
	I want to first say, you are such a beacon for us hopeful patriots.
	But I'm not feeling so hopeful this afternoon after hearing a recording from Biden saying that his military advisors did not tell him to leave troops in Afghanistan.
	That I recall.
	He can't even remember what people told him a few hours ago.
	I mean, think about it.
	Stop there for a second, Mike.
	Think about it.
	You're leaving Afghanistan after 20 years and he can't remember if somebody told him that's a bad idea, Mike?
	He's so incompetent, and now we've got goods backed up in ports.
	Here's what I'm calling it.
	If America fails, then what?
	It's not just America, it's the whole world.
	My thought was if China becomes the new leader of the New World Order, Then what?
	We think we know what censorship is like now with pictures being deleted.
	I mean, they control the internet.
	They put you in a van.
	This is the point, Mike.
	We're not interventionists.
	We don't want to be America's police.
	President Trump demonstrated how it can be done.
	But when we withdraw from the world, why?
	Because we are run by people who hate What America stands for, the whole world is a far more dangerous place.
	Great point, Mike.
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	So much has changed.
	I'm especially troubled by the use of language.
	Most recently, I've been hearing it said that the wearing of a mask, even after so-called Freeding Day, will be an act of compassion.
	Compassion.
	The message is that compassionate people will wear masks for the sake of others who feel frightened by unmasked people.
	What about compassion for people whose mental health has been eroded by the very wearing of masks?
	What about those for whom the absence of faces and their replacement by the Legion of the Masked has been profoundly troubling?
	Why does compassion only cut one way?
	Why does compassion only cut one way and the Legion of the Masked demand compliance?
	That is what truth-telling looks like.
	That individual is called Neil Oliver and he is a host, a presenter, newly minted on something called GB News in the UK.
	I was honoured to be on his show.
	And we are delighted to have him with us here on One on One.
	Professor Neil Onover.
	Doctor.
	I'm not a professor.
	I'm not a doctor.
	Well, you're an archaeologist.
	You're an archaeologist.
	I've got to call you something.
	Honestly, Seb, if Mr. is good enough for Spock and Sherlock, it's good enough for me.
	Oh, I like that.
	Oh, I like that very much.
	OK, we're going to have so much fun with you.
	First things first, for those who aren't familiar with who you are, or GB News in the UK, for our millions of radio listeners, for all our video viewers, tell us, just in a nutshell, who you are, where you hailed from, and how you went from being, you know, a British Indiana Jones to having your own TV show.
	Oh my goodness, that's such a... Where do I begin?
	I qualified as an archaeologist from Glasgow University in 1988.
	Worked for a while as an archaeologist, then I retrained as a newspaper journalist.
	I worked in papers for a few years.
	Then I worked as an internet editor on bt.com, which is British Telecom.
	It was the third website in the UK at the time.
	It was 1995 or so.
	I stumbled into television by chance because I was in the business of excavating battlefields around the world.
	That led me into all sorts of documentary television.
	Then fast forward, come through to the present crisis, the global crisis of COVID and the pandemic and whatnot.
	I happened to be featuring as a guest on Talk Radio, which is, as it sounds like, a talk radio show in the UK.
	With a lovely chap, friend of mine, Mike Graham.
	Oh, we love Mike Graham, the independent republic of Mike Graham.
	Super chap, super chap.
	Yeah, exactly.
	We love him, we love him.
	And that drew me to the attention of GB News, which is Great British, Great Britain News.
	It's a brand new start-up, nationwide television channel, focusing on what's happening in Britain, but dipping into international matters when it seems appropriate.
	And honestly, honestly, Seb, it's been the most surreal experience for me because my experience of television hitherto had been documentary, history, archaeology.
	Because of the views that I was airing and sharing with Mike on Talk Radio, I've been recast as a commentator.
	An ordinary member of the public, I suppose, given the opportunity to speak the things that I felt at the time were being unsaid by, goodness knows, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in the British archipelago, And so I suddenly, it was like an Alice in Wonderland experience.
	It was like walking through the looking glass.
	I suddenly found myself given the opportunity to present two hours of live television on a Saturday night.
	On GB News, you've been one of my guests.
	I cannot tell you how delighted and excited I was when we secured you as a guest.
	And I've been recast in a role of airing views, talking to all sorts of people who, like me, are mystified and troubled and anxious about what's happening here in Britain and around the world on account of everything that's been imposed upon us all on account of the Covid
	pandemic and now you know you and I have made contact with one another and here I find myself talking to you which is just another step on the road along this most unexpected trajectory that I'm on at the moment.
	Well we had to get you on the show because even before we made contact and before you had me on your show on GB News I saw a couple of your monologues and I just stopped and I said this is this is superlative in an age where there is so little courage to have somebody who's
	not sitting on their phone somewhere in a car park doing a video but actually on a TV show actually telling the truth and not hiding not not genuflecting to the fear mongers a God bless you for everything you do.
	And not only that, he knows how to... I think we've been doing this show for almost three years now.
	Nobody has used the word archipelago on the show, if not when discussing Solzhenitsyn.
	Neil Oliver, we doff our cap to you just for your vocabulary.
	So let's start at the beginning.
	How bad is it?
	I grew up in the UK.
	I was born in London.
	I thought that Maggie Thatcher was what a statesman looks like, what leadership looks like.
	I believed in the British spirit, the Bulldog spirit, the Churchillian spirit.
	And then I look after this amazing success of Brexit, the biggest vote in British history, I see this just rampant cuckolding of the British people where you're not allowed out of your house, where you can go to the shops once, and I see this police arresting people for using the wrong words.
	Give us a sanity check from the other side of the pond.
	How bad is political correctness and cancel culture in the archipelago?
	It's very difficult to know how or where to begin in answering that question.
	In the last 18 months, two years.
	I've seen the Britain that I know change radically to the extent that I've even begun to wonder if something hasn't been going on for much longer and that it was simply that the pandemic and the crisis of the last two years hasn't exposed something that's possibly been the product of of maybe decades.
	I really find it hard to analyze where this radical reshaping of British society might have begun.
	Yes, when we went into the pandemic, it was supposed to be, we were told that it would be three weeks to flatten the curve.
	The curve that they were talking about was the fear that too many people would become infected with Covid all at the same time and that it would put unbearable pressure onto the NHS all at once.
	And so the idea was that we would stay in our homes for three weeks and enable everyone to take stock and enable the National Health Service in the UK to deploy its forces most effectively.
	But now we find ourselves 18 months later and it's still a climate of fear that prevails in the UK.
	We know for a fact, no secret really has been made of the fact that behavioral psychologists were deployed to put together a propaganda campaign.
	Yeah, so there's this leak for those who aren't familiar with the Fauci equivalents in the UK.
	There are now documented pieces of evidence whereby the government and the advisors to the British government said the British people aren't afraid enough and we have to make them more afraid.
	Correct, Neil?
	Yes, you referred to the Churchillian spirit, the Blitz spirit, people like myself.
	I'm 54, I grew up, I was born in the 60s, grew up in the 70s, and I internalised the idea that the British people were absolutely committed to freedom, freedom of speech.
	That our ancestors, the valiant people of the Second World War generation, had given their lives, men and women, to secure freedom for the British people, for the population of the world.
	We had done our part in seeking to secure the freedom of the world.
	And I grew up believing that absolutely to be true.
	But somehow or other, I believe that the behavioural psychologists in the face of the pandemic thought, wouldn't it be great if we could just cow these people, frighten the people, get them to do what they are told?
	Because I think there was a general belief in the powers that be that we had been a freedom-loving, determined, stubborn, hobbit-like people, you know, the Lord of the Rings.
	The people of the Shire!
	It's the little people that, when confronted by the great dark monster, it's the little people that rise up and do what needs to be done.
	But the psychologists were deployed to frighten the people, and the people were deliberately frightened into their homes.
	Now, I have to say, I think this is where we get to the nub of it.
	Myself, my wife and I, and some of the people that we were talking to, we were mystified by the climate of fear that was developed.
	Like everyone else, when COVID, when that word was first being bandied about, for a few weeks we were saying to each other, what is this?
	Should we be concerned?
	What should we be doing?
	But we took a few weeks to evaluate the situation and it seemed to us that this virus posed a threat to the very elderly, to people who were already terribly ill with other conditions, cancers, heart disease, other things that would have compromised their immune systems or whatever.
	And we thought, no, this isn't anything to be afraid of.
	And we looked on, my wife and I and others, and we saw the climate of fear And it was like invasion of the body snatchers.
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	No Neil, you've spoken about the use of fear and the way the British and here in the U.S.
	and around the world populations have reacted.
	You are a man whose training has been rooted to the real world.
	An archaeologist deals with Things you find, you measure, that are solid, that are tangible.
	So let's stick to trying to find an explanation for why it is that the quote-unquote elite, the politicians, are doing what they're doing.
	Many people say there's some grand conspiracy theory, the Great Reset and everything else.
	You yourself said That what we are witnessing is the bitter fruit of decades and decades of some phenomena, which I agree, the denial of objective truth and the putting on a pedestal of these false members of the elite is something that's been going on for years.
	But we're talking about now.
	So let's talk about Fauci.
	Let's talk about Neil Ferguson.
	Let's talk about Boris Johnson.
	Have you defined What is the objective for them?
	Is it a collateral fear?
	I think Boris Johnson, after he came out of hospital with Covid, was a shattered man.
	Or is there something darker behind shutting down healthy populations and locking them away?
	I try and resist conspiracy theory.
	I'm not even sure what narratives and what stories I would even put in that file marked conspiracy theory, but I try to hold on to my belief that the The powers that be around the world, I don't think they have the competence to act collectively.
	To imagine a great reset and some kind of invisible global group is to presuppose a level of organization and competence that I don't, or at least I struggle to believe even exists.
	I think, until I'm persuaded otherwise, I'm more inclined to imagine it's opportunism.
	You know, I think, um, I think, you know, if you, you know, you know, when we had the, you know, when we had the back in the eighties, if you're old enough to remember that, you know, those that are listening, you know, the, the, the, the terror of, of HIV and AIDS, um, you know, that, that, that, that, that disease was just, was just a syndrome that weakened the immune system.
	And what did the damage with kind of opportunistic infections that took advantage of compromised immune systems?
	Now, to use that as an analogy, I think that the fear that has been inculcated across the West in particular, you know, across Europe, you know, and certainly in the USA and in the West, I think the fear has compromised the immune system of the people and the immune system being the resistance to fear.
	And I think it's being exploited individually, not in a collective sense, by opportunistic governments that have seen the opportunity in the panic that has been created and swept up Yes.
	and spun by this present crisis, and there's been an opportunity to maybe address other longer-term issues, other problems.
	I think the Western economies have been imperiled and close to bankruptcy for possibly decades.
	I think there are all sorts of problems worldwide, and independently, various governments, wherever, all across Europe, in the United States, have thought, now there's an opportunity here to take advantage of this, you know, under the cover of the panic that we have created, or under under the cover of the panic that we have created, or under cover of the panic that's We can get other things done.
	So as I say, that's a long winded way of saying that I'm not quite persuaded yet that there's a globalist cabal operating in the darkness who are all coordinating this.
	I think it's opportunism on the part of You know, the governments of the West who are looking at one another and thinking, actually, they're getting away with murder.
	They're getting away with murder.
	You know, let's let's see what we can do here.
	But I think it's, you know, you said, you know, I'm an archaeologist.
	I've been someone that's been fascinated by and I've written about and made television programs about history.
	And what I have absolutely learned, as anyone does, you pick up any history of the world and read it.
	And what you begin to see is that history, well, it doesn't repeat itself exactly.
	Mark Twain said history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.
	You see that, oh gosh, that's happened before.
	And I'm not talking about just a hundred years ago.
	I'm talking about thousands of years ago.
	There have always been, you know, empires have risen, you know, based around, you know, based around the idea that there are individuals, there are ideologies that emerge, you know, people, you know, seek to take advantage, seek to take control, and then inevitably those empires grow so large that they ultimately fail.
	Now, you know, I'm not a, I am not an academic historian.
	I'm not an academic at all.
	I'm just an interested reader.
	But I have, I have read enough history.
	I have looked at enough of the last 5,000 years, let's say, to know that these kinds of opportunities have been exploited before.
	And I, you know, you're mentioning people like, you know, whatever, you know, Boris Johnson and, you know, whoever else that you name check there.
	I think there are just opportunistic leaders who, by dint of their determination to take advantage of situations because they're in power and they want to remain in power, that when something like this comes along, it's too tempting.
	And to go right back to the beginning of our conversation, I think because you've had this unholy alliance of people who are in power, who want to stay in power and exploit a situation, They've exploited the expertise of behavioural psychologists and the rest to get the populations on edge.
	And now I think what we're seeing is groups around the world, governments around the world saying, how can we fix our own domestic situations undercover of the atmosphere of panic that we've managed to create all across the West?
	Absolutely, and I'm going to ask what that means for politics on either side of the Atlantic.
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	I like your application of of Occam's razor and the fact that we shouldn't be looking for some deep, deep conspiracy theory.
	I've spent enough time in government to know how incredibly inept governments can be.
	So let's look at this idea of self-proclaimed elites and opportunists.
	How much have recent events, whether it's Brexit, whether it's the coronavirus or anything else we're witnessing, How have they rewritten the political landscape?
	Do words like left and right have any relevance?
	Do they refer, do they have a connective tissue to reality?
	Or is it elites versus everybody else?
	How do you look at the current constellation in the UK for example?
	I think I'll definitely preface that.
	I think I've probably, I've said enough now, I think I should probably Date something that's from the heart.
	I am not an expert.
	I'm not an expert on much of anything at all.
	I'm not an academic.
	That's a good thing!
	I studied teaching in college in 1993.
	I've taught on numerous colleges, both sides of the Atlantic.
	And I hate being called an academic.
	Trust me, trust me.
	I am coming at something.
	I'm not an academic.
	I've never been, for most of my life, for almost all of my life, I've been apolitical.
	I've been deeply cynical about politics and politicians for as long as I can remember.
	I've never been a member of a political party.
	What I consider myself basically to be is a reasonable person and no one is more surprised than I To find myself cast in this role, you know, my wife and I look at one another across the breakfast table and, you know, she'll say to me, how on earth has this happened to you?
	And, you know, with a smile, you know, and she's saying, why are you finding yourself having to make these statements on live television, you know, going out to whatever proportion of the nation?
	But I think it's important to state that and for me to hold my hands up and say, What I see myself as is a reasonable person.
	I've read some books, I've stayed reasonably up to date with the news, I've read the papers and I look at the websites and I stay across it.
	But I am not an expert.
	Now, you asked me is there any continuing relevance to terms like left and right.
	My honest answer to that is I would say no.
	I think along with other Words that used to have a meaning.
	I think they've been so battered, overused and misused.
	I think left and right have become meaningless.
	I think, as is evidenced in a lot of the transgender debate and the climate debate, all sorts of the, should you get vaccinated?
	Should you not be vaccinated?
	There are a whole swathe of subjects about which people have become so polarised that I think it's definitely becoming truer and truer to say that we are in a post-truth world.
	Yeah.
	We seem to have gone beyond the truth.
	You know, just to have the temerity to stand up and say that there are two sexes, men and women, you know, is enough to see you cancelled.
	In certain arenas, we're moving into a realm where it's there are no Accepted truths anymore and we've gone into this strange through the looking-glass world where everyone has their own truth and everyone speaks their own truth and You know as much wiser heads than mine have said that is a very dangerous road to go down because if you if you set aside truth and
	then all that you have left is power.
	You simply have polarised groups who seek to overwhelm one another only by the application of power, only by the weight of numbers.
	If there is no objective truth, we move into a territory, into an arena that is potentially lethal to everyone.
	And that's why me, as a reasonable person, not an expert in anything, I looked around and thought, if no one else is going to attempt to state some basic truths, I'm just going to have to do it.
	Because as it turns out, I've got an opportunity to do it.
	I've got a newspaper column.
	And I've now been given an opportunity to be on GB News, you know, and to speak to some, whatever it is, proportion of the population.
	I thought I've got to start stating the things that I know to be true because I believe in objective truth.
	You're right.
	I believe in objective truth.
	I believe there are certain things that are true and that you have to defend those objective things that are true because otherwise As I say, it's just a clash of power.
	Well, not only that, it's not just a clash of power if there is no truth and words have no meaning.
	I mean, if you say that there is no objective truth and there is no sense in the world, we're talking to Neil Honover.
	Follow him at The Coast Guy.
	We're going to ask him why he's called The Coast Guy momentarily.
	But first things first, you've got to check out his book, The Story of the World in 100 Moments.
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	Thank you.
	Neil, I'd like to ask you the following question because I've got an excuse.
	So, you know, my parents escaped...
	Communist hungry, my father was liberated from a prison cell by the Freedom Fighters until his dying day.
	He had the scars on his body, on his wrists, where he had been tortured by the secret police.
	So for me, standing up and doing a monologue on truth, why a man is a man, a woman is a woman, and why you shouldn't live in fear, you know, I've got an excuse.
	What was it for you?
	Was there some moment where you said, OK, this is crazy, somebody has to say something?
	And what has been the consequence going from, as you said, a non-academic, it says freelance historian in your bio, which I love, To making documentaries, to becoming a show host on live British TV.
	How has your life changed since then?
	Talk to us about how people have reacted to the new Neil Oliver.
	It's such a good question Seb, and I find it a very interesting question because it's one that I continue to ask myself every day.
	I looked out at what was happening over the last few years, and I think I was particularly exercised by, you know, cancel culture.
	I looked out at people who, by dint of having used the wrong word or having said a single questionable sentence, Or having put a brief line on social media that could be interpreted more than one way or was perhaps, you know, genuinely abrasive or controversial.
	That mobs were descending upon those people and silencing them, cancelling them and seeking to cast them out into outer darkness.
	And I knew instinctively that that had to be wrong because
	My modest, genuinely humble belief in the effective functioning of normal discourse between civilised people is that it is the tension that's created by people with opposing views, pulling in opposite directions, that gives tension to the ropes that hold up the big tent
	within which we all live, that there has to be equal and opposite tension.
	That if one side or the other is knocked out and ceases to be, then if only one side is pulling, then the big tent falls down and that's disastrous.
	So that there has to be, you have to accept, you have to celebrate and know that your point of view depends upon being pulled at and challenged by as many different points of view as possible because that tension holds up the structure.
	And what is absolutely fundamental within that way of thinking is that you have to be ready.
	Some people within each group, They have to be because change happens at the edges, you know, you know where things start to overlap.
	And so I step out of my group and you step out of your group and we meet in a kind of a no-man's land and we have a conversation and we learn things about one another's points of view and we are able to go back into our own groups and fix them.
	Because no matter what your group is, no matter what its ideology and thinking, all groups go wrong from time to time and have to be fixed.
	And the fix is obtained by those people, those individuals who have the daring to step out of their groups, meet with the opposition, learn something and go back in.
	And that fixes the groups.
	And they remain in opposition to one another, and it's that opposition that keeps the whole thing going.
	Now, I thought to myself, because I'm not the brightest bulb, I'm not the shiniest coin in the till, I am just a reasonable person, and I thought, if I'm understanding that, if I have acquired that basic wisdom, if you like, If no one else is going to defend it, come hell or high water, even though I recognise that I am not qualified to be doing this.
	I'm not the right person to be doing this.
	It ought to be some silverback gorilla, you know, some bigger figure from within the population that should be stepping forward to do this.
	But I thought I can at least, I have an opportunity, however brief, to just step up and say, This is what I understand to be true.
	And this truth that I understand has kept the tent up for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
	Was there something that made you step out into the arena and say what you said?
	Because you're monologues.
	I mean, people need to go to GB News, to the YouTube channel and see Neil's monologues.
	Was there some event that made you say, OK, I got a TV show and this is how I'm going to use it?
	That's another good question, Seb.
	Genuinely, although I haven't really touched on it, GB News is new.
	We're only a hundred and odd days old.
	It's a start-up, in every way.
	But my concerns about the way things were going are a lot older than the advent of GB News.
	And I suppose, in all honesty, I was pushed into it because of the gender debate.
	My kids are 18, 15 and 13 now, and they've grown up with the Harry Potter phenomenon.
	My eldest boy, he plays the audio tapes of the Harry Potter stories.
	And if you get up in the middle of the night in my house and go to the loo or something, you'll hear them softly playing from his bedroom.
	I know the ones read by Jim Dale.
	I know them very well.
	Well, we've grown up with that.
	And so because of the great amount of pleasure that J.K. Rowling had brought to my kids...
	When J.K.
	Rowling was so fiercely turned upon by the trans lobby for things that she had said.
	Reasonable things that she had said.
	She was so tolerant and understanding of trans people, but nonetheless she had stepped up and spoken about the necessity for safe places for women and all the rest of it.
	And obviously I am married to a woman.
	My daughter is a woman.
	I've got two sons.
	And I'm so protective of their right to be boys and girls, men and women.
	And when I saw that, it was really when I saw the mob turning on someone like J.K.
	Rowling.
	Now, I can also say that J.K.
	Rowling's politics are not mine.
	No, she's not exactly a conservative.
	No, J.K.
	Rowling is way more left-wing than I would ever be, but that was irrelevant to me.
	I thought, this is a human being who is stating the truth, and she was so considered in the way that she did it.
	She published a long essay, I think it was about 3,000 words long, where she stated her case, and yet, nonetheless, she was savaged, and there were all sorts of attempts to cancel her.
	And I think it was, I think, in answer to your question, even before everything else that came up, I think I was, I think that's when my antennae started twitching, and I thought, we're moving into territory that is beyond truth.
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	We're seeing some incredible, truly exciting things happen in America.
	Parents, even some teachers, standing up to the bullies at school board meetings.
	We're seeing a push back on things like the bigotry of critical race theory.
	Tell us that something nice, something positive is happening in the land of Churchill as well.
	Honestly, Seb, I think it is.
	I gave a monologue on Saturday night about fear, about the way in which fear has been deployed against people, but the point I was making was that I I detect for the first time that I think that the strongest smell of fear is coming not from the people, but from the leaders.
	Yeah, you describe them as emperors who are starting to realize that their grip on power is weakening, right?
	Because we are the many.
	You know, there's eight billion people alive at the same time on the planet today.
	You know, and the elites who seek to have us dancing on strings like puppets are just a few thousand people.
	And a single twig, a single stick can be snapped.
	A bundle of sticks gathered together is unbreakable.
	However, if people are feeling in their own situations, in their own communities, even in their own families, if they're feeling alone, You're not alone.
	You are in an invisible alliance with thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of people all around the world who do think like you.
	They haven't had the spotlight, they haven't had control of the microphone, so their faces are not being seen, their voices are not being heard.
	But they, which is to say we, are there.
	And at the moment, here in the British Archipelago, I can smell The scent of fear and it's not the people it's the leaders and I think the leaders are beginning to realize that we the people who are committed to lives of freedom that our lives we our hopes we The same as any billionaires as any emperors.
	I think that realization is dawning on the elites and on the emperors and if people just hold the line and keep the faith and remember that our own lives are our own property and we are entitled to live them in the way that we see fit Rest assured that we are united.
	Whether we have met each other or not, there's a grand alliance of us who want freedom, who want liberty, who want the rights to live our own lives.
	And if we just hold the line, we will be alright.
	That's one of the ways I sign my show off every single day, to tell people to hold the line.
	This has been a pleasure.
	I could continue for hours.
	Please follow this man, share his thoughts.
	He could be Professor Archipelago, but he is the coast guy, the author of the story of the world in a hundred moments.
	Everybody out there, God bless you all, my friends.
	Keep your head on a swivel, hold the line, never give up, never give in.
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