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Sept. 9, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden mandating vaccines for federal employees

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	Don't take this the wrong way.
	It's far too easy to just write off my question as being rhetorical.
	But it's not.
	And the question is this.
	When are we going to get serious?
	I don't care what you call yourself.
	I don't really like labels.
	I don't know.
	I'm not a Republican.
	I'm not a member of the GOP.
	I have conservative values.
	I was born in another country, grew up under Margaret Thatcher, who for me was an amazing statesman.
	I looked across the Atlantic to Ronald Reagan, was inspired, and now I'm an American, a legal American.
	If you want to call me something, Conservative is fine, but we should have a big tent, whatever it is.
	Even those crazy libertarians will let them into the tent now and again.
	But when are we going to get serious?
	What do I mean by that?
	So I was here in the studio yesterday and somebody from Politico somehow gets my phone number and they text me
	Asking me to comment on a news item, on a letter that had been sent by the White House to a former Trump appointee who, after the last election, was a member of the visitors board at one of our military academies.
	Like West Point, like the Naval Academy.
	And he received a letter from the White House Office of Personnel under Joe Biden demanding that that individual resign his position on the board of that Academy by midnight of last night if he did not Resign his membership of the board of that military academy.
	He would be removed from that position.
	Now the individual concerned, you've probably never heard of him, it doesn't matter, was very succinct in his response.
	He said My term lasts for three... No, he said, no!
	My term lasts for three years, which is correct.
	A presidential appointee in that case is a member of that board for three years.
	Politico sent me that tweet and asked me to comment.
	Whether I'd received a letter from the Biden White House asking me to resign from my current position on the Pentagon's National Security Education Board, the NSSEB.
	I am a two-time presidential appointee.
	I worked in the White House for President Trump as his strategist.
	And God bless him.
	He rewarded me.
	He recognized my service to him in the White House a few months before the election by appointing me as a presidential appointee to the National Security Education Board, overseeing aspects of the Pentagon's education.
	I have not received a letter from the Biden administration.
	Because according to lawyers I have spoken to, the board I'm on is so elevated that Biden would have to change the legislation that created it to get rid of any Conservatives.
	And maybe he doesn't have balls to do that.
	But here was my reply to the Politico reporter, which somehow made it into the Daily Mail.
	Somebody from the UK sent me my quote to the Politico reporter, asking me for a comment.
	I said, and I hope he quoted it, and he did, hey, cuck boy, go lick some Democrats' boots.
	And the cretin published it.
	I was delightful to hear the Politico publish my comments, calling their reporter a cuckold.
	Now, it turns out that my buddy, my former White House colleague, Sean Spicer, former Presidential Press Secretary, is also on an Academy Visitors Board, this time the Naval Academy, which is absolutely apposite because, if you don't know, Sean is a commander in the U.S.
	Naval Reserves.
	He has been serving this nation in the armed forces for 22 years.
	God bless you, Sean.
	And he was also asked to resign by midnight of last night.
	And he's not going to either.
	We'll play what he responded to the White House on the opening of his show on Newsmax yesterday.
	He told me, Tune in, Seb!
	You wanna tune in for the opening, and I did.
	And also you have to hear what Jen Psaki Has she ever worn a uniform of anybody's army?
	I mean, the Soviet... I know she wore that Soviet hat when she was in Moscow.
	That's the... The closest she's gotten to wearing a military uniform is wearing a pink Russian army Soviet communist hat with the communist emblem on it!
	And she had the audacity, the bare-faced effrontery, to say that Sean Spicer wasn't qualified to be on the board and that's why he was going to resign or be fired.
	Who the hell do you think you are, you propagandistic communist?
	You pathetic excuse for an American.
	How dare you question the integrity and the qualifications of Sean Spicer, who has more honor and qualifications in his pinky finger than you have in your whole fetid body.
	And don't worry, Sean's a big boy.
	He'll deal with it.
	I'm ready.
	Bring it, because I'll sue you into the ground.
	Under what authority?
	Under what authority do you abnegate a four-year presidential nomination?
	Go to hell, Biden, Psaki, and all you corrupt un-American hacks!
	But here's the real question, dear friend.
	No Republican president in history has ever done what Biden just did.
	These boards are created to be bipartisan, politically neutral.
	Like a board just to, you know, have people of every flavor there to help that institution, whether it's West Point, whether it's the Naval Academy in Annapolis, whatever it is, whether it's the NSAID where I serve, to represent America!
	Not some communistic reflection of the Democrat Party's regime.
	No Republican has ever taken revenge on his last presidential incumbent's appointment.
	Ever!
	Maybe it is time we started, don't you think?
	Because guess what?
	We're playing checkers and they're pulling a gun on us.
	When are we going to get serious about our politics?
	When are we going to play hardball?
	And I pray every day, and I think it's imminent, that my old boss Donald Trump is going to announce his campaign to come back into the White House.
	And if he does, and if they don't steal that election, We have got to get a flamethrower out.
	We have got to turn the corrupt bureaucracy into a sheet of glass so that America is democratic, is representative, is a republic once more.
	It's time to get serious.
	Enough of the cowards!
	Enough of the cuckolds!
	Enough of the rhinos!
	Are you with me?
	Time to take back America.
	One election at a time.
	One school board at a time.
	One presidential election at a time.
	What are you doing about it?
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Our phone number 833-33-Gawker 833-334-6752 coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios just outside the stinking, fetid, putrid swamp that is Washington DC.
	Stay on this channel.
	Well, it's segments like that that make it fun to sit where I'm sitting.
	You got the full blast.
	Alright, Foil's connected.
	Which Comrex is he connected to?
	Do you remember what he used last week?
	Two, wasn't it?
	I believe it was two, yeah.
	Keep track of them, because they have different ones.
	Alright, so the reads are Relief, Relief, right?
	It's relief, relief, Patriot Mobile relief. Relief, relief. Patriot Mobile relief.
	And then winters. Amen.
	And then what are the lives?
	We've got job creators and American financing.
	I put the cry macho in the third hour, so we're good on that.
	Let me troubleshoot here.
	Okay.
	Is Pullman confirmed?
	MR.
	Yes.
	Jeff says yes.
	Okay, which was the article we really liked?
	What was the topic?
	What?
	What was the article we really liked that triggered us?
	Yesterday about Amazon web services and substats.
	Oh yeah, Patreon.
	This sot that you want for tonight.
	Is it about Kabul or where he says he surrendered?
	Where he says Biden surrendered?
	Yeah, surrender.
	Okay, Zeldin confirmed.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then Elaine is, Parker is what?
	JC at LRM.
	Job creators.
	Yes.
	We've had her on before.
	America First Hold, please.
	Is there any material they sent for Elaine?
	They usually do self-report.
	Yeah, I'll get it.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Okay, so we'll do an American Financing now.
	Okay.
	I'll do a JCN in the interview and probably an E. I'll do a merch in 1D.
	I'll do a MyPillow in E. What else do we need?
	You've got the macho in the third hour.
	The macho's in the third hour, yeah.
	And then I'll do a Rudy in 2B.
	This should be good.
	You should be up now.
	Matt.
	Hey, guys.
	Can you hear me?
	Yes.
	Dr. Gorka, how are you, sir?
	I am very well, very well.
	How about you?
	Doing great, doing great.
	The mic's still coming in a little quiet.
	Yeah, can you up your... A little quiet?
	Yeah, sorry, because Sirius makes me put it down, and then... How's that?
	Yeah, can you keep talking?
	Yeah, testing 1, 2, 3, how's that?
	Is that going to be enough?
	I mean, the thing is, I'm all the way up on my slider right now.
	Yeah, that's all the way it can go up on mine.
	Okay, so yeah, we're just going to have a little comm in the background.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	Cuts.
	I have all 10 video cuts now.
	Okay.
	So I have that Spicer cut you were mentioning.
	American financing here is what you said, right?
	Yeah.
	And then, did you say Job Creators Network in this hour or next hour?
	Next hour with the interview.
	Okay.
	Fifty seconds.
	Um... I'm gonna use cut eight here.
	Cut eight?
	Come in with cut eight?
	No, I think I have to tee it up.
	Tee it up?
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, it's definitely the cut you gotta tee up to explain what's going on.
	Alright, alright, alright.
	And then... Get everything sorted here.
	27 seconds.
	I will get ready to meet everybody.
	Hi, what's your name?
	Make sure everything's good to go and we're good to come in.
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	It's viral.
	It is a shocking video.
	If this had happened to a black Democrat candidate done by a white Republican activist, you know what the result would be.
	Let's look at the video of Larry Elder being harassed and the violence against his campaign in California play cuts.
	Don't touch me again!
	So that is somebody in Larry Elder's entourage being hit, being abused in a by a white woman in a gorilla mask as Larry Elder is hustled away.
	I gotta ask Matt Boyle, he is the Washington political editor for Breitbart.com.
	How is that story of somebody in a monkey mask intimidating a black Candidate for governor in California.
	Not a front page story for the legacy media, Matt.
	Well, it should be.
	It's, this is a hate crime.
	This is a hate crime committed by this woman.
	Um, and, uh, it should be investigated and prosecuted as such by authorities.
	And by the way, it looks like it was a conspiracy based off of the people around her that were also there and in on it with her apparently, right?
	Like in defending her, like you saw the other people in the video.
	So, this was a hate crime.
	I mean, plain and simple.
	And the fact that Joe Biden is silent about this, the fact that Gavin Newsom is silent about this, Kamala Harris, who was just campaigning with Gavin Newsom, is silent about this, shows that they don't believe in actually prosecuting hate crimes.
	They don't believe in standing up to actual systemic and real racism when it presents itself on the campaign trail.
	Larry Elder, I mean, if he ends up winning this thing, even if he doesn't, I mean, what a brave person for, I mean, on par with civil rights leaders of the 20th century for standing up in the face of this hatred.
	And again, this demonstrates that the left and the establishment media are perfectly okay with hate, hate crimes and discrimination and racism when it suits their political purposes and hate crimes and discrimination and racism when it suits their political And that's what's particularly disgusting.
	You know, we should judge people based on the content of their character, not on the color of their skin.
	And the fact that Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris and the whole rest of them, Nancy Pelosi, all of them, are silent about this hate crime is proof that they're okay with racism and hate crimes, but it suits their agenda.
	But let's look at the other angle here.
	Doesn't this mean that Gavin Newsom and clearly the radical Democrats who support him, they must be very worried if this is the depth they are plumbing to, Matt.
	Yeah, I think they're very worried about it.
	Look, here's the thing.
	I mean, it's still an uphill battle, so I don't want to get people's hopes up on the right that, you know, we're going to have some magical win in California next week.
	The recall's on Tuesday, by the way.
	Yes.
	But the fact that we're even at this stage in this race, and that Larry Elder's doing as strongly as he is, and it's still an uphill battle all the way through Tuesday, but they are terrified.
	Barack Obama Just cut an ad for Gavin Newsom.
	He is the god of the Democrat Party.
	He just jumped into this race.
	And by the way, Barack Obama's also silent on the hate crimes that we saw.
	So Barack Obama doesn't believe in prosecuting hate crimes either.
	So is Eric Holder, so are the rest of them.
	But the point here is that the fact that Barack Obama is jumping into this race, that Kamala Harris is out there campaigning for Gavin Newsom, and I think Joe Biden's supposed to be heading out there, too, in the final days.
	Is proof that the Democrats are so scared about what may happen on Tuesday and the ramifications for what that may mean moving forward.
	Even if it comes close and it doesn't win outright, I mean inside double digits or something, I mean that's a huge win for the right.
	And a huge loss for the Democrats.
	And the ramifications could be so widespread that we don't even fully understand it yet.
	Right on the heels of this, by the way, there's governor's races in Virginia and in New Jersey later in the fall.
	And state legislature races and lieutenant governor races in a lot of those places in the midterm elections are right around the corner next November.
	So this could set the stage for some really serious things.
	And it's all coming, of course, as Joe Biden's in free fall.
	His approval rating is under 40.
	Yes.
	It's continuing to fall.
	He's at 39 percent last night in the Economist's New Gov poll, which is frankly embarrassing.
	Joe Biden is an embarrassment to the United States of America.
	He has failed this president.
	He's supposed to give a speech later today, Dr. Gorka, where he's going to supposedly lay out his plan to fight the pandemic.
	What?
	Like, we're nine months into this administration.
	Where's the plan, buddy?
	Right?
	Like, come on.
	Like, where have you been?
	What have you been doing?
	Have you been too busy stranding Americans in Taliban's hands?
	He's been in Delaware.
	He's been taking naps in Delaware.
	Matt, you are the best connected guy in D.C.
	and you even have connections to the Democrats.
	So I have to ask you this.
	What are these people thinking?
	Newsom's worried he could lose and they send Senator Warren and Obama to California.
	If you're undecided and you're not a Democrat, that's not going to change you.
	Why are they so disconnected from reality?
	Well, the question is if and when we're ever going to hit a point where that disconnected from reality meets real reality, right?
	When are the voters going to wake up and do something about it?
	Because the power is in the hands of the people.
	You guys can stop these people.
	All you have to do is vote them out.
	You vote them out.
	You can throw the bums out.
	You can take back your life.
	You don't have to listen to these morons anymore.
	You can stop them.
	And that's what we need to see happen.
	And every election that happens is another opportunity for the American people to say, enough of this crap.
	No more.
	We're done with it.
	And so the hope is that eventually this disconnect from reality that the Democrats are offering It's, you know, like a train into reality.
	And, you know, maybe one day we're going to get the right thing here.
	And hopefully that I have a lot of faith in the American voter.
	I really do.
	And I think they eventually get it right.
	The long arc always points towards justice.
	But the point here is that we got to see it soon.
	We got to see it in one of these upcoming elections, whether it's 22 or 24.
	I don't know.
	You know, eventually these guys, the American people gotta say it.
	Alright, this is insane.
	Enough of this nonsense.
	Well, I know somebody ate his Wheaties this morning.
	Matt Boyle is on fire!
	And he's gonna be with us for another segment.
	Read his writings!
	And make sure you bookmark the most influential conservative website on the planet!
	Breitbart.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Mic's on. - Yeah.
	Matt, you're on fire!
	Dude, hey man, it's birthday magic.
	It's my birthday today.
	No way!
	Happy birthday!
	Bring the heat, dude.
	Happy birthday.
	Let me take line five quickly in the break.
	Mic's on or off?
	On.
	Hey, who's this?
	This is Al.
	Hey Al, what's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Hey, listen, first of all, I congratulate you on your citizenship.
	And I'm here in Nevada.
	I'm in Nevada.
	And the thing is, you were asking, you know, what are you doing to help our country?
	Now, I'm not a Latino activist.
	I'm a MAGA activist that happens to be Latino.
	And I'm trying to get as much Latino support for conservatives for Donald Trump.
	30 to 40% of Latinos vote Republican.
	And that's the direction that we're going in.
	And I'm glad that you guys are supporting us.
	You know, Jason Miller is supporting us.
	He went down to Brazil.
	He saw the passion for freedom that you saw in your country when you came here.
	You know, that we have to defend the voice of the people.
	And he's going around, he's supporting Latinos.
	Donald Trump is with his Latinos for Trump.
	And it's just fantastic.
	And you know what?
	Latinos are making the difference in California.
	If Larry Elder wins, it's because we voted him in.
	That's what I wanted to say.
	I appreciate it.
	Thank you, Al, for your work.
	Yes, indeed.
	Lowest unemployment rates for black and Latino Americans under Donald Trump.
	There's a reason he has their support.
	Keep doing what you do.
	Thank you, Al.
	No problem.
	Yeah, by the way, Dr. G, that guy is 100% right.
	Republicans saw a huge swing because of Trump in the last election with Latino voters, and I think it's going to only accelerate in the next one.
	Got to keep building.
	Got to keep reaching out.
	Can't believe it's your birthday.
	How are you going to celebrate?
	I'm going to go out to dinner with the folks and my brother and his fiancée later tonight.
	What are you going to eat?
	Uh, we're gonna go to a restaurant that is Prohibition-themed.
	Oh, very cool.
	Are you gonna dress up like Al Capone?
	I wish, no.
	No.
	Very cool.
	I just love how he so casually mentioned it's his birthday.
	He's like, oh, it's my birthday.
	Yeah, you know, he's a modest man.
	I can be a little bit more, like, you know, energetic because of that, right?
	It's a good excuse.
	That was great.
	Yeah, it's a good excuse.
	The mic levels being low really doesn't matter if you're fired up.
	It helps a lot.
	It helps a lot.
	We'll just have to, whenever the mic levels are low, we'll just say, pretend it's your birthday, Matt.
	Just pretend.
	Yes, yes.
	Okay, you got it.
	Okay.
	Birthday on 9-9.
	Easy day to remember.
	September 9th.
	Yep.
	Alright, 60 seconds.
	All right.
	I'm going to come in with the disclaimer for American Financing, and we've got Relief Factor here.
	Anything else heads up forward?
	Yesterday you did a disclaimer in the same segment where I did the read.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm not going to do that yet.
	Okay.
	For some reason, I don't know why, Hi, what's your name?
	Yeah, you're not supposed to.
	I think it's the repetition that they don't like.
	They don't like hearing, oh, this is paid for by this, and then here's that.
	OK.
	That there, OK, there we go.
	All right.
	All right, muting mics.
	Stand by.
	Bye.
	Good evening, bye.
	Good evening, bye.
	Thank you.
	Portions of America First are brought to you in part by American Financing.
	The call board is full, and we've got the hardcore with us.
	Don't go anywhere.
	Ray, Judy, Victor.
	But we've got to continue our talk with Matt Boyle.
	And we know why he's so fully jazzed.
	He's energized the body today, because it's his birthday.
	Happy birthday, Matt!
	Thank you, Dr. G.
	What would you like for your birthday?
	Because we have a selection that we can provide from our new America First store.
	Put up the buffer, Eric.
	You can get a beautiful Made in America t-shirt we launched for when the president came on the show.
	It's If You're Woke, You're a Loser.
	We can get you one of those, Matt.
	I love that.
	You love that?
	Okay, let's throw in one of our mugs.
	This is the America First made in America with an eagle on the bottom and we'll get him a hat as well.
	We'll get an America First hat because you love those baseball hats.
	So, happy birthday, buddy.
	They're on their way to you and you're gonna fly the America First flag.
	Guys, if you won yours, If you're one of your President Trump, don't be a loser, don't be woke, t-shirts, go to sebgorkastore.com.
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	Matt, I want to, you know, we're always crushed by the daily grind of the interminable news cycle, the shiny, sparkly objects.
	I want to know what happens To the Democrat agenda, to the infrastructure bill, the pork, the January the 6th witch hunt commission, given the disaster in Afghanistan, does that put brakes in any way on these crazy agenda items for Nancy and for Chuck?
	They're going to be more aggressive with pushing all this crazy leftist nonsense now to try to change the subject all for the failures of Joe Biden as commander in chief and president of the United States.
	Joe Biden has had nine months to do the job.
	He has failed to get the pandemic under control.
	It is now the Biden pandemic.
	Those Biden diapers you wear on your face when you go on airplanes and everything?
	Thank the president because he's a loser.
	He's the reason why.
	And his dumb, idiotic Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg.
	They're the reason why.
	They failed you, America.
	So they're the reason why the pandemic has failed.
	They failed to get it under control.
	If President Trump was president, we'd have it under control right now.
	They're the reason why you're paying more for gas.
	They're the reason why 13 American young men and women are dead in Afghanistan just a couple weeks ago, right?
	Those kids would be alive today if it wasn't for Joe Biden being president, right?
	If we had Donald Trump in the White House.
	And every one of those families knows it too, by the way, and that's why you see several of them.
	calling Trump the real president.
	So the point here is, is that the Democrats are going to, because Biden's numbers keep sinking, because he's a failure as a person and as commander in chief, are going to be desperately trying to jam through their radical agenda.
	That being said, I think that some of the Democrats in Congress, the mansions and cinemas of the world are probably going to be a little bit more hesitant to support this radical agenda now.
	So watching that whole dynamic play out, and I'm tracking the infighting among the Democrats right now.
	Seeing Joe Manchin fighting with Nancy Pelosi, fighting with Kyrsten Sinema, fighting with Chuck Schumer, and so on and so on and so forth.
	And AOC comes off the high ropes in with the squad, you know, I mean like that battle, that is going to be determined whether or not the by you know the left is going to be able to save the Biden administration really frankly and then also the question is a more.
	More importantly, are the establishment Republicans going to ride into the rescue for Joe Biden like they did?
	Those 19 Republicans are total morons, total morons.
	Why did they do what they did when they voted for that infrastructure bill?
	I bet they're kicking themselves now, wondering, looking back on that mistake, why they did what they did.
	So the question now is where do we go from here, and are the Democrats in Congress going to be able to save Joe Biden's failed presidency, or is it already too late?
	And who's really in control?
	We've got 30 seconds left.
	Right now is it still Nancy Mapp?
	I actually asked President Trump that question a couple weeks ago and he says nobody really knows.
	That's the great secret.
	We don't know!
	We don't know who's in charge in this administration because Joe's out to lunch.
	There's clearly something wrong with him.
	Is it Kamala?
	Is it Nancy?
	Is it Chuck?
	Is it some combination thereof?
	Is Susan Rice pulling the strings from the White House?
	Is Obama really running the show?
	I don't know.
	So I don't think anybody knows watching this, and that's why Biden's approval number keeps sinking.
	So watch that number.
	It's going down from here.
	Ten seconds.
	Is he going to announce?
	Is he going to announce in the next couple of weeks, Matt?
	Who, President Trump?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	I think he's going to wait till after the midterms.
	I think he's going to wait till after the midterms.
	Oh, I don't think so.
	We'll see.
	Read this man's articles, especially the exclusive with President Trump at Breitbart.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	Have we got a relief after this?
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	And what peripheral are we using?
	Phone?
	Hello, America First.
	What?
	Are we on the phone?
	This is an interview on the phone?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Sorry.
	Alright, hang on, he's coming to you now.
	Alright, mic's going off.
	Thanks a lot.
	Thank you.
	.
	America first.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	You just don't say!
	Not on this show.
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	It's Ben Domenech and Steve Davis' The Federalist.
	And we have a new guest from The Federalist.
	She is executive editor Joy Pullman.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hi, thanks for asking me.
	So guys, you've got to follow this lady on Twitter at Joy Pullman.
	You've got to read her articles at The Federalist.
	You've got to bookmark The Federalist.
	First things first, I couldn't believe the article you just published.
	As if parlour wasn't a lesson enough for everybody.
	Could you tell us what the latest intricate development is with Amazon, their web services, and sites like Patreon and Substack, Joy?
	Well, I mean, put it simply, Amazon Web Services is a web hosting service that controls 40% of the Internet in the world.
	And they reportedly host the supposedly independent sites Patreon and Substack, which are basically kind of ways, you know, ideally for independent creators to find an audience and get paid from them.
	I think most listeners would be familiar at least with one of those two.
	Well anyway, Reuters reported last week, before Labor Day weekend, that the company basically is planning to do a content crackdown to, you know, more strictly enforced, basically their thought police policies, and of course that would put sites like those in the crosshairs.
	So we're not talking about trying to identify and track child pornography or jihadi terrorists.
	What are we talking about here, Joy?
	Well, I mean, we've seen Amazon do this before.
	So, as you mentioned, they were famously the folks who kicked Parler off.
	And they also have been behind a number of other significant deplatformings, just like Twitter, just like Facebook.
	Basically, what we see is that when Internet giants get too much control over speech, they use it to shut people down.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	And guys, if you haven't learned the lesson yet, if you're a conservative who's building or built some kind of platform, if you're using Amazon, you might as well just burn your money instead.
	We're going to post that story on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	You've got to read it.
	Let's move to another one.
	It's a fabulous, fabulous headline.
	I'm just going to read it.
	The left's hysteria about kids and COVID is much worse than QAnon.
	I've been saying it every day here on this show.
	How is it, Joy, and maybe you can't answer this question, how is it that parents Don't actually take 30 seconds to look at the actual figures for COVID, for children and mortality rates, but still mask their progeny.
	What is going on in America?
	I mean, well, if you just look at polls, people basically believe false information about COVID.
	So, you know, people believe that, you know, 50% of people who get it go to the hospital.
	It's in the single digits.
	They believe they're wildly, wildly, crazily inflated death statistics.
	And so people have been manipulated.
	They have been scared on purpose by the media industrial complex in order to herd our entire society into Chinese-style social credit control.
	I mean, we were just talking about Amazon, right?
	This is all, you know, all of these things work together to give outside influences control over whether we can even work, buy, or sell where we can go.
	I mean, it sounds crazy.
	I can't believe we're living in this, but you know, yeah, this is exactly what's happening.
	I kind of feel like we're living in the same, inside the Salem witch trials right now.
	And no, I mean, all of the things are present and not very many, and not enough people are raising the alarm.
	Yeah, I love this phrase.
	I've just written it down.
	I'm going to use it in the future, credit it to you.
	The media industrial complex.
	We could talk to Joy Pullman of The Federalist.
	And I look at the top of your Twitter feed and you're about to publish a podcast interview where you label wokeness as a mental illness.
	I want everybody to listen to that interview.
	But please, would you expand upon it for our listeners here on America First?
	Oh sure.
	I mean, I actually really wanted to be, so we're talking about things that I think are more clearly cut, you know, COVID data is what it is, but I wanted to be more careful with the mental, you know, illness issue because I don't want to politicize this as, you know, something that many, many people are challenged with.
	It's a complex issue.
	I mean there are correlations between identity, politics and mentalities that psychotherapists know create psychoses within their patients.
	If you ever have any contact with the counseling world, with therapy, with psychological health, You know, people who are thinking in victim mentalities and other people are oppressing me.
	I mean, they work to get people out of those ideologies.
	And so the converse is also true.
	If you use those politically and teach, I mean, basically what the left does is uses its victim ideology to impose psychosis on people.
	And so, I mean, I think that that needs to be more talked about because it's completely unfair to put people into mentally bad places in order to gain control over their lives.
	An entire political apparatus that basically exists to do just that.
	In all of your research and your writing, and this is the question we struggle with every day here, how much have you identified some nefarious centralized conspiracy?
	Or is it just that these people, the Democrats, the Fauci's of the world, the media industrial complex, they're just massively risk averse and also they just want to accrue more and more power.
	So it's a cultural attitude, not a conspiracy.
	Have you come to a final conclusion as to which it is?
	I mean, I don't think it necessarily has to be an either-or, but I do talk of them, you know, the vast majority of these dynamics that we've been talking about for this past couple minutes just to human nature.
	I mean, human nature is deeply flawed, you know, and our founders knew that, and that's why they wanted to severely limit government.
	So we have, in the centuries after their greatness, really destroyed those checks and balances that would hold back people, mobs, and manias from overtaking society, and we are suffering the consequences.
	Yeah, we are.
	Read that article as well.
	We're posting it.
	The left's hysteria about kids and COVID is much worse than QAnon.
	She's Joy Pullman, executive editor at The Federalist.
	Check them out also every single day.
	Thank you, Joy.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Titles.
	Joy.
	Worse than even QAnon. - Ha.
	All right.
	Oh, that'll be a fun one.
	Boyle.
	Yeah.
	Who's in charge of the Democratic Party or something like that.
	Who's running Biden.
	Yep.
	Then 1A.
	And 1A, Biden takes revenge, comma, we do nothing.
	Uh-huh.
	And Greg.
	And Greg, um... Why I decided to fight the swamp.
	Got it.
	Alright.
	What's, uh, is it Garrett, who's the video guy?
	Yes.
	Can you send me his number?
	Yeah, one moment.
	And, uh, I'll wait until the next break and I'll give you the script for G-O-A.
	Alright, 25 seconds.
	Alright, 25 seconds.
	Standing by.
	Bye.
	On the side of the U.S. Constitutional.
	Constitution, America first!
	It's not personal.
	I will say that there are some people, of course, on these boards who have supported or stood by silently while their former boss supported an insurrection.
	That's not really okay with us either.
	Oh, that's the reason that you fired or tried to fire Sean Spicer?
	Even H.R.
	McMaster from the board of West Point, which is ironic because you asked him to resign yesterday or he'll be fired and tomorrow West Point will honor him.
	Tomorrow.
	No, Saturday.
	Tomorrow, West Point will honor him with the highest honor they can pay him.
	Yeah, I think that's how they're bringing Americans back together, isn't it?
	Isn't that what Biden promised us?
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Carl in Alabama.
	Hey, Seb, how are you?
	Good!
	Yeah, I appreciate you taking my call.
	I appreciate what you do, man.
	Thank you.
	I was just telling your screener there, I'm a little confused.
	Biden can get these people off these boards, he can open the border, he can undo everything Trump did, but he can't do anything in Afghanistan.
	I don't understand.
	Oh, that's good.
	That's good.
	That tells me who these people are.
	They're tougher.
	They're tougher on persecuting their political opponents inside the country than they are on the people who gave aid and support to Bin Laden.
	Carl, genius.
	Stay on the line.
	Give Carl whatever book or merchandise he wants from the web page.
	That's superb, Carl.
	Let's go to Judy.
	Judy, welcome.
	Hi.
	Hey.
	Hey, come on.
	Come on.
	Let's roll.
	Okay, I'm gonna roll.
	First of all, I saw a bumper sticker the other day and it said like this.
	Don't blame me.
	I voted for Trump.
	I loved it.
	That's good.
	Secondly, I loved your monologue.
	Like tell me how you really feel when you're angry, frustrated and mad because that monologue was great.
	Let me tell you my my impression that monologue at the end was that Biden and Jen Psyche Their idea, this is their idea of uniting all Americans by sending out letters to honorable Americans to resign.
	It's like atrocious.
	And just remember, Devin Nunes said 90% of the media corrupt.
	And you know what?
	We are surrounded by corruption on all levels, at all levels of government.
	It's just insane.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Anyway, thank you.
	Thank you for your comments.
	And yes, that is their idea of uniting us.
	God bless Judy.
	Victor Silver Spring.
	Welcome, Victor.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Two very quick points.
	Number one, that clip you played at the beginning of the show?
	Yes.
	A voiceover comes on and says, your Democratic Party proving every day how they can be racist.
	Okay, you're making a recommendation?
	Yes.
	Okay, thank you.
	What next?
	Okay, on the 20th, the Canadians are going to have an election, and from what I am hearing from my friends, Trudeau is in big trouble up there.
	Really?
	He's been heckled.
	Oh no, I mean, somebody threw some gravel at him as he was getting onto a bus.
	I'm not sure that's, you know, indicative of everybody in Canada, but, you know, the pyjama boy, hopefully he will get trounced.
	But are you hearing anything else, Victor?
	They are really ticked off about the two priests being arrested and jailed.
	I hope so, because that was an outrage, that pastor who was jailed.
	Why?
	Because he wanted to hold services.
	God bless Victor.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	We have a chance.
	We could revivify, resurrect the state of New York.
	Randy Andy Cuomo is an unpleasant memory.
	And there's somebody who's running for the office of the governor who, well, if anybody can, he can.
	He has served this nation in uniform as a lieutenant colonel in the army.
	He's now a congressman on Capitol Hill for the first district of New York.
	And we are delighted to have him back on America First.
	Congressman Lee Zeldin, welcome back.
	Hey Seb, great to be with you.
	So much to discuss.
	Great to have you open the second hour of the show.
	First things first, I don't know if this is tough for you to comment on with your reserve status and everything else, but I'm touched by this as a member, a presidential appointee to the Pentagon's National Security Education Board.
	My buddy Sean Spicer got a letter yesterday trying to force him to resign from the Board of Visitors for the Annapolis Naval Academy.
	West Point board members are being threatened by the Biden administration.
	Your reaction to what should be totally apolitical bipartisan boards helping to run our military's academies?
	Well, first off, it's important to point out that Sean has served in our military.
	He has worn the uniform.
	He is a proud Navy man with experience at tactical, operational and strategic levels.
	He brings all of the right ingredients and perspectives, and what's ironic about the announcement is that Jen Psaki states that their decisions aren't going to be based off of party registration.
	Well then, why are you getting rid of somebody with that kind of experience like Sean has, who pours his heart Into it.
	Dedicated.
	You know, he's not doing that for prestige or money or title.
	He's just doing it to give back.
	The other element of this that I'm greatly concerned about is this desire to socially engineer the military.
	And I signed up for the Army ROTC when I was 18 years old in 1998.
	when I was 18 years old in 1998. - Wow. - I served on active duty from 2003 to 2007.
	I've been in the reserve since 2007 and still drill today.
	Wearing my hat as a member of Congress, putting aside my hat as a member of the military, but wearing my hat as a member of Congress, I am very active in ensuring that our military is focused on accomplishing one mission above all else, and that is protecting our nation, our national defense,
	Protecting our safety, our homeland, and they just need to be given every last possible tool that they need to do that mission.
	And when they get distracted on other issues to fix, to fit into domestic political agendas, that is a distraction that is time, energy spent and focus spent away from what matters most.
	So that's the other piece of this is a concern that the Biden administration is trying to put appointees that fit their agenda, their mission of, in some respects, we're seeing socially engineer the military and take away that focus from just winning wars when necessary to protect our national defense. we're seeing socially engineer the military and take away that Winning wars when necessary to protect our national defense.
	Yeah, we've had enough Mark Milley's.
	We need to get back to a military that isn't infested with woke-ism, but is just made up of war fighters.
	Follow this man on Twitter at Rep Lee Zeldin, also zeldin.house.gov.
	Staying on the issue of national security, we have a mind-numbing clip here, a short clip from our chief diplomat.
	Beta male Tony Blinken, who's surprised that the Taliban aren't all pride flags and equity.
	Cut seven, play cut.
	Yesterday, the Taliban named a new interim government.
	We're assessing the announcement, but despite professing that a new government would be inclusive, the announced list of names consists exclusively of individuals who are members of the Taliban or their close associates, and no women.
	You're a military intelligence professional.
	Were you or any of your colleagues surprised that there weren't representatives of the LGBT community, any women in the Taliban regime?
	And isn't it strange that Tony Blinken forgot to mention that four of the cabinet members are Taliban terrorists that Obama released, Congressman?
	Well, there's a lot there to unpack, and the reality is that this Taliban terrorist group would throw a member of the LGBT community off of a rooftop to their death before they're going to be appointed to a cabinet.
	And the other thing, too, that really requires some serious self-reflection by the Secretary and others in this administration is that when the Taliban And others who are America's adversaries would play that clip that you just played.
	At the end of it, they would then start laughing their asses off.
	They can't believe that this is where the focus is at.
	Our important approach to foreign policy, and we saw this for four years during the Trump administration, Is that we should be understanding our enemies do not respect weakness, they only respect strength.
	And that we have to be strong and consistent, exercising, willing to exercise all of our instruments of national power.
	Militaries included, but that is the last possible option.
	We have it on the table because we don't want to use it.
	And what we just saw play out in Afghanistan with horrible planning, horrible execution, What we saw play out where we are not appropriately confronting foe, we are not working with, in the correct ways, our allies, totally caught them off guard, where they were all scrambling to get their citizens out, and then misleading the American public, the Secretary of State included, that all is cause for great concern.
	But most importantly, to really give some perspective, To the secretary, if they want to get an adequate picture of what's happening on the other end of these remarks.
	They are laughing their asses off at him.
	Our enemies are laughing at Blinken, Biden, Milley and a whole lot of them as cowards and credits.
	Congressman Seldin, you have made the bold decision to try and save New York from the man who drove it into the ground.
	He's gone now.
	He's an unpleasant memory.
	Talk to us.
	We're two days away from the anniversary of September the 11th.
	What is it going to take?
	What is your plan for a resurrection of that great state?
	So, first off, I'm concerned from that public safety, homeland security component, the three-pronged attack that we're seeing from one party, Democrat rule.
	We were just talking about it with foreign policy.
	And I'm concerned about other nations and other foes trying to fill that vacuum and pushing further, and what that means with the vulnerability that exists right now at the top of our country and not being able to and willing to confront it.
	And then we see the crisis at our border.
	And then you combine that with the agenda to defund the police.
	And here in New York, they've enacted cashless bail.
	Here in New York... Say that again, we lost you there for a second.
	You said what?
	Cashless bail, correct?
	In New York State, they enacted cashless bail at the beginning of 2020.
	A few months later, New York City then cuts a billion dollars from the NYPD budget.
	They're getting rid of qualified immunity.
	So from the public safety standpoint, there's so much more support.
	Law enforcement, more, not less.
	All levels of government should be working together more.
	Coordination, cooperation is a good thing.
	The agenda on the left is to cut off coordination and cooperation with federal law enforcement authorities.
	That's crazy.
	We also have to improve the quality of education in our schools.
	No school in the state of New York should have critical race theory in it.
	We shouldn't be getting rid of advanced academics in the name of equity.
	New York City is looking to get rid of honor rolls, saying that that's not fair, but what we should do is be assessing the social justice achievements in place of that.
	There's so much more that we could be doing to ensure that we are providing a quality education and not an indoctrination or brainwashing.
	And on the economic front, We need to make sure that able-bodied adults are getting back to work.
	It's time.
	When there's an available job for them, the government shouldn't be incentivizing them more to stay at home rather than go back to work.
	We need to be fighting for our freedoms.
	We need to root out corruption.
	We need balance in power and one-party Democrat rule.
	In Washington D.C., in Albany here in New York, in New York City, at every level here in this state, pendulums swing and we need it to swing back November 22.
	Help this man swing that pendulum.
	Go to ZeldinforNewYork.com.
	That's ZeldinforNewYork.com.
	We need a patriot as governor.
	We've only got a couple of seconds left.
	Congressman Zeldin, can New York rise from the ashes like a phoenix?
	Yes or no?
	Yes, and it's actually not that hard, but voters are going to have to take that into their control, their destiny.
	It is your right to vote.
	Yes, it's also your duty to vote.
	It is your obligation to vote.
	And when you have members who are going to their local gun club meeting, And they're strongly, passionately supporting the same issues we do, and they're not even registered to vote.
	And they're not even voting.
	We need all of them to get active to save our state and to save our country.
	Get engaged!
	New York.
	America.
	Let's save them.
	Zeldin for NewYork.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Your calls next here on America First.
	First.
	you you you you you you It is, and I'll re-emphasize it in E. Mic's back on?
	No, Mic's off.
	Let's do the podcast.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
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	Ready? Ready?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I'm in New Jersey and we want to know what's going on because there's like planes, look, they're going inside the buildings, everybody's outside going crazy.
	There's what?
	It looks like planes are trying to go in the building.
	Everybody's outside going crazy.
	What's trying to go in the building?
	It looks like a plane was trying to go into one of the buildings.
	A plane?
	Yeah.
	But they don't know if it's federal practices that they do in the air.
	But we're all outside by the Hudson.
	And we don't know what's going on here.
	There's no cops.
	Nobody's telling us anything.
	When you are incapable of even expressing what you are witnessing, a 9-1-1 call from, of course, the morning of September the 11th, almost 20 years ago, and then footage of Air Force One being accompanied by jet fighters to make sure that the President was safe and could control our armed forces as we tried to respond to that threat, which we did.
	The operations that followed in October were incredible.
	300 men from the Special Forces Special Operations Community with members of the CIA leveraged 21,000 members of the Taliban of the Northern Alliance to bring down the Taliban and to root out Al-Qaeda.
	And then it metastasized.
	Into mission creep the likes of which we've never seen before.
	20 years later, more than 20,000 dead or wounded.
	And for what?
	So we can give the Taliban 83 billion dollars worth of our equipment.
	That was the decision Biden called his best decision.
	It would have been very different With my former boss, Donald Trump, at the helm.
	He's just given a fabulous interview with my buddy, Greg Gottfield, who is crushing it.
	Did you hear the latest?
	I've got to share this with you.
	I was listening to another radio show this morning.
	CNN.
	CNN, since last June, has lost 42% of its viewership.
	How do you survive anything as a business when you lose 42%?
	And Greg Garfield is demolishing everybody else with his late night show.
	And rightly so, because he's a smart guy, he's a funny guy.
	And he interviewed my old boss, President Trump.
	Part two is, I think, tonight.
	Part one was yesterday.
	Let's listen to what he got President Trump to say with regards to surviving as a president who's not a member of the Swamp Cut Nine.
	No one's ever asked you this.
	I think I might know the answer.
	How hard is it being president from a scale to 1 to 10?
	Well, I had two forms of presidency.
	Number one, I had to run the country, work on the world, and do things.
	And the other thing, I had to survive.
	The survival was much tougher because I had fake Mueller people coming after me.
	I had 19 really haters after me.
	I had every form of law enforcement after me.
	It started from the day I came down the escalator.
	It never stops.
	I have every prosecutor after me.
	They're looking at deals that I did years and years ago.
	I forgot about them.
	It is a disgrace.
	So I had to survive, number one.
	And number two, I had to really, you know, I guess I'd put it in a different order.
	But if you don't survive, you can't do a good job in terms of running.
	So I had survival and I had running the country.
	Right.
	And I would say the survival was actually much tougher.
	And it's truly remarkable.
	It's so true.
	I was inside the building and it was a question of running the country and surviving the onslaught of the fascistic Democrats and the minions in law enforcement intelligence.
	And to achieve what he achieved, securing the border, crushing ISIS, biggest economy we've ever had, Despite everything that was happening, makes it all the more remarkable.
	The question is, which was worse?
	The crazies you had to deal with in North Korea and elsewhere, or the crazies back home?
	Cut 10.
	Friend of mine.
	Very, very successful guy.
	Used to call me Don.
	Donnie.
	Donald.
	Now he said, Mr. President.
	You know, you lose all your friends because you're president.
	They're all afraid to talk to you, okay?
	Mr. President, could I ask you one question?
	What's the toughest, who was the toughest to deal with?
	Was it China?
	Could it be Putin in Russia?
	What about North Korea?
	Kim Jong-un?
	I said, well, the toughest actually was the United States, dealing with these maniacs that we have over here, with Pelosi and Schumer and all of them.
	That was probably the toughest.
	Far tougher than a lot of world leaders.
	And isn't that a shame when you think about it?
	Isn't it a shame?
	I'm not sure about the laugh track or the clapping in the background.
	I know it's a late night comedy show, but when you're interviewing President Trump, but the point is the point.
	It's the crazies back home that are the toughest.
	There is another man who is serving President Trump right now by getting to the bottom of what happened in the last election.
	He's America's Mayor.
	He's Rudy Giuliani.
	They're trying to destroy him.
	Please, will you support him?
	They want to bankrupt him.
	They want to strip him of his law licenses.
	Go today to rudijulianifreedomfund.com, make a donation so he can keep fighting for you, for me, for all of us.
	That's rudijulianifreedomfund.com, rudijulianifreedomfund.com.
	Okay, let's go to your calls.
	Glenn in Arizona, line 3.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	So, you know, one thing that is troubling me, because I was talking to my mom the other day, when my grandfather was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, he worked for Bethlehem Steel for 34 years, and when the doctor told us about the diagnosis, that it was the worst, the most severe diagnosis of Alzheimer's he's ever had.
	We dealt with that for about five years.
	My grandpa was a World War II veteran, so basically he would be in the house with us, He was there just present.
	He was no different than a two-and-a-half-year-old.
	This is what I'm seeing with Joe Biden, and I would like for you and others on the conservative talk radio to start spotlighting this.
	This is a man who's no different than a two- or three-year-old child in mind, and that's where we are right now.
	No, I think it's true.
	I think this is the guy who behind closed doors is screaming at his staff.
	And then to hell with his wife.
	His wife will allow this to go on?
	Yes!
	Jill Biden, if you're listening to this, anybody has an eye on Jill Biden?
	You are a disgusting person for allowing your husband to go through this.
	This idea that they actually entertained the concept of his running, yeah, it is truly disgusting.
	Glenn, thank you.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give Glenn one of our new Don't Be Woke, Don't Be a Loser t-shirts we made for President Trump coming on the show.
	He deserves one because he's an out, outspoken American, like all of our listeners.
	Let's go to William, New York, line one.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Two events during the Obama administration illustrating the importance of the boards of visitors at the service academies.
	Yes.
	One, a Catholic chaplain was told by one of the board members to get out of the army or perform same-sex marriages.
	It was a female board member, I'm not too sure, I haven't been able to dig up.
	Which academy, do you remember?
	West Point.
	Wow, amazing.
	Okay, I'll look into that.
	And do you remember the Spencer O'Poney, the commie cadet?
	Yes, the cadet.
	Graduated 19th, 2016.
	Who pulled back his dress uniform to show his Che Guevara t-shirt.
	Absolutely, you're so right, William.
	What happened was that, speaking with a visiting faculty member during a history lecture, he said that The faculty at the academy wanted to get rid of more protesting, but he was being covered by the higher administration at West Point.
	One would think that the Board of Visitors would be Part of the pipeline to have oversight over that kind of thing.
	William, fabulous points, absolutely.
	And it tells you, we forget these events that show how early, how frequently the rot sets in across these academies when it was the Air Force Academy that became the first military academy to have a Wiccan temple.
	Talk about separation of church and state, but the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs has a church for witches?
	On taxpayer money?
	Yeah.
	We need more Sean Spicers.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Stay with us, won't you?
	Mic's on. - Uh-huh.
	Oh, right.
	Oh, right. right.
	Oh, right. right.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Title for Zelda.
	The Taliban is laughing their asses off at Biden.
	Alright.
	That's 90 seconds.
	Is she calling in or... I'm gonna ask Jeff.
	That's D. That's the D segment.
	So we're gonna come... Oh, okay.
	Yeah, we're doing a disclaimer here on Patriot Mobile.
	Oh, okay.
	Patriot Mobile?
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, this is a C segment.
	Oh, I'm... Yes!
	Oh, okay.
	I was confused.
	I was like, what?
	Okay.
	Do not fear.
	That clarifies things a little bit.
	Yeah, my computer did the worst thing.
	So I just closed it, opened it back up, and it had totally crashed and restarted.
	And then I go back into Premiere to look at the video, and the video didn't save anything.
	And then I drag something onto the timeline to sort of get the audio, because I was telling Casio what I needed.
	And it pulls half of the video back up.
	And then I click it again, and the video deletes itself again.
	Yeah, it's not like I spent a couple hours putting all that together.
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	Gotta give credit where credit is due, yes indeed, especially to former colleagues from the White House and who served this nation still in uniform as an officer in the Naval Reserve.
	Of course I'm talking about Sean Spicer!
	And he was on fire last night.
	The righteous indignation was streaming out of his nostrils and his ears as he opened the show after the Biden administration ordered him, ordered him to resign from the visitors board of the Annapolis Naval Academy or to be fired, which they can't really do.
	So we're going to have some fun with this.
	But this was Sean last night on Newsmax on his show, Cut 5, play cuts.
	For 22 years, I've had the honor of serving alongside some of the most talented, patriotic, and brave individuals this country has to offer.
	I'm a proud graduate of the U.S.
	Naval War College.
	I've done multiple tours, and politics has never entered into my service.
	I've served under five different presidents of both parties.
	When you wear the uniform, you serve the commander-in-chief.
	We take an oath as officers to the Constitution, not to a party.
	Each of us chooses how we're going to serve this country.
	I won't ever question how anyone chooses to do that.
	I won't question how you choose to do that, Jen.
	But don't you dare ever minimize or question my service to this nation.
	You got it?
	These bodies have been free from politics and worked in a bipartisan way until today.
	This administration made them political.
	Not one Obama appointee on these boards was removed when Trump came in.
	Not a single one.
	This move has taken partisanship to a new level.
	That's what I meant when I opened my show almost two hours ago.
	When are we going to get serious?
	Not one Republican has removed a Democrat presidential appointee from these committees.
	Not once!
	But yesterday, he's right.
	Sean is absolutely right.
	Yesterday, Jen Psaki, Biden, the Democrats politicized these august bodies.
	It's time to get serious, guys.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Antoinette, California.
	Welcome, Antoinette.
	Hey, Dr. G, how the hell are you doing?
	I'm very, a little angry, but I'm happy to be talking to you.
	Ditto.
	Listen, three things.
	I'll see you guys on Sunday at Town Hall in Garden Grove, California.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	Then, tomorrow, of course, Friday, we're in our famous corner, Pacific Coast Highway and MacArthur Boulevard.
	How was it last week?
	How was it last week, Antoinette?
	Actually, it was really very cool.
	There's a lot more guys joining us now, which is very nice.
	And then number three, starting today, 6 p.m.
	Pacific, 9 p.m.
	your time, right at that moment, at that hour, just for one minute, Churchill had an advisor in England during World War II, and they did this.
	They got a group of people together and started prayer.
	So, 6 p.m.
	tonight, starting 9 p.m.
	Eastern.
	For one minute, we're going to pray for our country, the United States, for our military, for our citizens that are stuck in Afghanistan, the voice for the voiceless, And for Larry Elder to make it to be our governor, so at 6pm sharp, one minute, please everybody, stop whatever you're doing and ask God to help us.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	I haven't discussed it, I don't think, here on the show, but we actually had a prayer group in the White House.
	8 a.m.
	every morning we'd meet.
	6 p.m.
	West Coast, 9 p.m.
	For one minute, guys, let's pray for this nation.
	Glorious idea.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Thank you, Antoinette.
	See you Sunday.
	Let's go to our other buddy in California.
	See you Sunday.
	Brent, welcome!
	Hello, my General Gorka!
	Greetings!
	What brings you to our sunny shores today?
	Well, yesterday's violent attack on Larry Elder by a gorilla-masked white racist woman displays how California, under Gavin Newsom, has descended into Democrat Alabama in the 1960s under George Wallace.
	So true.
	Gavin has made California into 1960s Mississippi by the sea with his new and improved Knight Riders and Tiefen BLM.
	The white-faced George Soros' Maoists in black-faced.
	And Gavin's schools teach violent racism and bigotry with his CRT curriculum, and sexually abuse our kids with his pedophile curriculum, teaching children how to perform oral and anal sex like little porn stars.
	This is Gavin's idea of school choice.
	Yeah, no, superb summary.
	The fact is that video that's gone viral of Larry Elder's entourage being attacked by somebody wearing a guerrilla mask, a white woman, those are all Democrat voters.
	Those are all supporters of Gavin Newsom.
	They are bigots and they are racists and they are afraid.
	But that's who the Democrat Party has become.
	Thank you, Brent.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	All right.
	Hey, John, grab audio cut through.
	Okay.
	It's the Chris Wallace.
	How long is it?
	I think like 40-some seconds.
	Oh, okay.
	Can I hear it when you've got it?
	Yeah, just give me two seconds.
	Two and a half minutes.
	State Department confirmed today Americans are being blocked by the Taliban.
	When did we report that?
	Was that two weeks ago that we reported that?
	That's incredible.
	Why do I think it's going to end up like Iran?
	A hostage crisis?
	Sounds like it.
	And they probably just won't even tell you.
	You'll find out six months from now.
	You'll find out six years from now.
	Silverstein.
	Oh.
	There was that whole, uh, back and forth on what the new World of Tanks could look like when they were rebuilding it.
	I mean, January 6th was one of the worst days.
	I covered Congress.
	Can you send me Garrett's number?
	I did, I texted it to you.
	Okay, go ahead.
	For several years, when I first came to Washington in 1978, and as I'm sitting there live, watching it on television, and seeing this mob coming to the cathedral of our democracy, and sitting in the chair that the President of the Senate sits in, and, you know, running around the rotunda, I was sickened.
	Does it worry that you give legitimacy to people who have abdicated all public responsibility?
	Well, there are plenty of people who, you know, were the leaders of, in the Congress, of challenging it, that I just have not had on the show ever since then.
	And have purposely not had the show because I don't, frankly, want to hear their crap.
	Alright, I'm gonna bring Elaine up.
	I just sent you an image.
	It does look better on Rumble.
	It does?
	Than that monitor, yeah.
	I think it's the way that lights are hitting it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What's the title?
	President.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	in his little finger than CNN has on its entire network.
	Sebastian Gorka.
	Did you ever wonder who Chris Wallace really was?
	I didn't.
	He's a creep.
	He's a registered Democrat.
	And he went on the Stephen Colbert show.
	I mean, that tells you.
	Why is somebody who's a patriot going on Stephen Colbert's show?
	And this is what Chris Wallace had to say.
	Oh, by the way, he still works for Fox.
	Play cut.
	I mean, January 6th was one of the worst days.
	I covered Congress for several years when I first came to Washington in 1978, and as I'm sitting there live, watching it on television, and seeing this mob coming to the cathedral of our democracy, and sitting in the chair that the President of the Senate sits in, and, you know, running around the rotunda, I was sickened.
	Does it worry that you give legitimacy to people who have abdicated all public responsibility?
	Well, there are plenty of people who, you know, were the leaders of, in the Congress, of challenging it, that I just have not had on the show ever since then.
	And have purposely not had the show because I don't, frankly, want to hear their crap.
	That's who Wallace is.
	That's all you need to know.
	He's not a journalist, he's a hack.
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	But what about all the other businesses out there that are struggling that employ more than 60% of all Americans.
	There is an organization fighting for them.
	It's the Job Creators Network, and we are delighted to have with us their Chief Communications Officer, Elaine Parker.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Thanks for having me.
	First things first, the jobs report.
	Utter disaster.
	Supposed to be 700,000 jobs.
	It's 200,000.
	What does this mean for America and the future of America under Biden?
	You know, it's amazing.
	We really should be seeing stronger job growth, especially with the 64% of Americans are fully vaccinated.
	But, you know, there's been a lot of headwinds coming out of this administration, and one of the biggest headwinds, Sebastian, has been overly generous unemployment benefits and simply paying people to stay home.
	We literally have a nationwide worker shortage.
	We have 10.1 million job openings.
	It's an all-time record.
	It's crazy.
	Yeah, the fact that they ended the federal unemployment benefits for six million people this weekend.
	Are we going to see people flood into the workplace or are they too used to sticking at home, Elaine?
	You know, it's my hope that we do see that, but we won't.
	We'll have to look at the data next month and see if we see that increase of people coming off the bench.
	What happens with the labor participation rate?
	It has not budged in months.
	It has stayed the same.
	So hopefully we get some people off the bench, get them back to work into the workforce.
	And, you know, and take employers out of the business of competing with the government for labor because that's the worst position you could put our small business owners in.
	The government should not be disincentivizing Americans to work.
	Talk to us about this phrase you've coined at the Job Creators Network of the Biden pay cut.
	What is that, Elaine?
	Yeah, so we've seen this reckless spending come out of the Biden administration.
	It started with the American Rescue Package that was signed into law back in March.
	We saw the Senate pass an infrastructure name-only bill that's making its way through the House.
	And then, of course, the House is working on the $3.5 trillion human infrastructure bill, which is really going to be like $5 trillion when all is said and done.
	You'd think I was talking about monopoly money, right?
	Well, with all this spending, we're seeing inflation rise to levels that we haven't seen in decades.
	I mean, soon we're going to be at Jimmy Carter levels.
	But the reality is our wage increases are not keeping up.
	So it's an effective pay cut to ordinary Americans when the cost of goods are rising faster than their paychecks are.
	So when you've got groceries going up and you've got gas that's gone up more than 50% since Biden took office, people's paychecks are smaller because things cost more.
	Please support these people that are fighting for small businesses across America.
	Go to joinjcn.com right now.
	That's joinjcn.com right now.
	Elaine, last question.
	It's not just, you know, the overt attempt to make government even bigger and to spend like drunken sailors.
	It's also political measures like H.R.4.
	Will you talk to us about JCN's concerns for the John Lewis Voting Rights Act?
	Yeah, Sebastian, this is a serious issue.
	The passage of H.R.
	4 is nothing short of a federal takeover of state and local elections.
	This bill would usurp the power of states that attempt to ensure the integrity of their elections to partisan bureaucrats in Washington.
	And we just can't let that happen.
	It would be used to erode security of our elections.
	It requires that states receive preclearance before making any sensible voting procedural changes, and it would empower all the bureaucrats in D.C.
	at the expense of local people on the ground who currently have run our elections because they're handled at the state level, as you know.
	And so we have to push back on this and we have to fight it because it is simply a federal takeover of our elections.
	Last question to Elaine Parker of the Job Creators Network.
	What do you say to those who say, I work for a small business, I own a small business, but I can't get involved in politics and it doesn't make any difference.
	Why should they go right now to joinjcn.com?
	Well, Job Creators Network advocates for small businesses so we amplify their voice and we actually fight for pro-growth policies for small businesses because they don't have floors of lobbyists and lawyers to fight for them in Washington.
	So that's our job.
	That's what we do for small businesses.
	So they can do what they do best, and that's run their business, grow their business, and give back to their community.
	Such a simple answer.
	Such a great answer.
	The big guys, the globalists, the multinationals, they all have their lobbying firms working on Capitol Hill for their interests.
	But what about the heart of America, the people that make America tick?
	They need representation, too.
	Join the team today.
	Go to joinjcn.com right now.
	That's joinjcn.com right now.
	Thank you, Elaine Parker.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump.
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	Yep.
	Well, the computer tried to update in the middle of that segment.
	The update that said, like, eight hours from now?
	Yeah.
	Well, no, there's just a timer that I can't close on the screen right now.
	Oh, that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It just says five hours and 55 minutes from now the computer's gonna update.
	But I can't minimize it, so I went to hit the music, the ending music, and it wouldn't work.
	He's a machine.
	Geoff, don't you think we need, like, computers that were made in this century?
	Why not?
	Funny.
	Yeah.
	When was Binah supposed to talk?
	Five.
	Okay.
	Say, they announced it early this morning, like they've been hyping it all day.
	Did you see what they're doing?
	No.
	It's a DOD thing, right?
	They're gonna require companies to, I think it's a hundred or more, that they have to mandate the vaccine or two tests per week, or they're gonna be fined $14,000 for every violation.
	Private companies.
	From the federal government?
	Contractors, or?
	I can't get clear, because I try and advertise it like it, sometimes it's just contractors, but it says AP's reporting it.
	That kind of language is really ambiguous.
	Bunch of more testing, doubling the fines on planes without wearing a mask.
	Who doesn't wear a mask on a plane?
	They won't let you on.
	It's stupid.
	It was never about health.
	I mean, maybe, but... It's just requiring large companies.
	Definitely not about it now.
	Some places are saying the large companies is over 100 employees.
	They don't even do this for actual deadly diseases like Ebola or something.
	I mean, if it were serious, could you imagine?
	There would be no question about where I'm... This is just trying to get the base back.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because that's their biggest thing is... All right.
	What do you mean, Jeff?
	The base.
	It's all the climate change and... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Nine.
	All right.
	Stay back.
	In my book, you're number one.
	I don't care about the Stephen Guy number two.
	In my book, you're number one, okay?
	So don't worry about it.
	Sebastian Gorka.
	Thank you, Judy.
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	Let's continue to discuss the question of Mr. Fauci, who lied.
	Yes, lied before Congress, which is a felony which should Make him rather worried, especially that now Rand Paul has forwarded a judicial request, an investigation to the DOJ, that he lied about funding gain-of-function research.
	Oh, but he didn't, because Jen Psaki said, well, you know, it depends what the definition of is, is.
	Cut three.
	Fauci told Congress the NIH never funded gain-of-function research for coronaviruses in Wuhan, but documents published by The Intercept suggest that is not true, which would mean that he misled Congress.
	Well, first I would say that NIH has refuted that reporting, and I would point you to that.
	But let me give you some highlights of that.
	NIH has never approved any research that would make a coronavirus more dangerous to humans.
	I'm reminded that there are previous and different coronaviruses than The existing one we're battling.
	And the body of science produced by this research demonstrates that the bat coronavirus sequences published from that work, NIH supported, were not the strain, COVID-2 strain.
	So what he said was correct.
	What is silence?
	I don't know.
	Silence?
	I don't know.
	So, Jeff, what is she saying there?
	She's saying what?
	We funded something, but... Oh, it wasn't the same coronavirus.
	It was a different one.
	So, funding an earlier one was cool.
	This is a terrible response.
	They've had months to come up with a response.
	They could have gotten something better than this.
	So, because they were funding coronavirus 18 and a half, it's okay?
	Yeah, it wasn't the big one.
	I hope that is used as evidence against this regime and against Fauci because it's clear millions and millions of dollars from your pocket spent in Communist China's military bioweapons lab.
	Oh, we're going to discuss more of this tonight.
	I'm going to be guest hosting Grant Stinchfield's show on Newsmax.
	When is that?
	Nine o'clock, right Jeff?
	Eight.
	Eight, sorry.
	Eight.
	Get it right, Gawker.
	Only three hours of radio.
	Pay attention.
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	I'll be hosting for Grant Stinchfield.
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	Today, we're going to talk about the only peer threat we face, and that is Communist China, with somebody who's kind of revolutionized media coverage of that threat.
	By herself, almost single-handedly, her name is Natalie Winters.
	She is an investigative reporter with the National Pulse.
	Natalie, welcome to America First One-on-One.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	So, we like to start these discussions by getting to know our guests a little bit better.
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	And how did you get to that position?
	Sure.
	Well, believe it or not, I'm actually from Los Angeles.
	I'm still in school.
	I'm a student at the University of Chicago.
	But while I'm pursuing my studies as a political science major and a history minor, I also work, as you said, as an investigative reporter at the National Pulse.
	And I focus primarily on the Chinese Communist Party, but more precisely how they infiltrate various sectors of American society, whether it's academia, media.
	I think we're seeing right now government and really how they kind of fix policy, American policy to suit their interests.
	And growing up, I never was really into the Chinese Communist Party.
	I always was against communism, but I really got exposed to the threat that the Chinese Communist Party posed to, I think, really the way of life that we so cherish in America.
	Through listening to shows like The War Room, shows like yours.
	I grew up listening to it, and I wanted to do something about it.
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	I'm sure that's who your mother is.
	She is your number one fan.
	But no, I've always loved conservative media, but I really wanted to kind of get into it and actually do fact-based reporting and go to the primary sources and really, I think, kind of footnote a lot of the statements that you like to see, you know, in mainstream media today.
	Well, actually not mainstream media, but You know, fake news, Beijing, Biden, those are all valid criticisms, but there's more to it than just, you know, the alliteration or a fun-sounding phrase, so I really like to kind of dig into the documents, the primary sources.
	I always joke that I'm probably the only actual American who spends so much time watching Chinese state media and perusing the Foreign Agent Registration Act database and all the various lobbying disclosure databases, so that's kind of the brief on me.
	All right, so explain if you will, Natalie, of all the issues out there, why you landed upon, and you know, you have an incredible tenacity when it comes to this issue, why is it China and Communist China as a threat to Western civilization that has become your passion?
	Well, I think it's because when you analyze the American establishment, right, which at the end of the day is who's drafting our policies, determining where we send our troops to war, what kind of policies we're pursuing from an economic perspective, where we're sending our factories, I really think that the American establishment's moves are indistinguishable and really indivisible from that of the Chinese Communist Party.
	Because there really is, whether you want to call it elite capture, or we call it more so elite merger, in the sense that it's not just that American elites have kind of sold out to the Chinese Communist Party for financial interests.
	It's more of an ideological compromise in the idea that together there's kind of this axis of global elites who work to implement policies in the United States and China that benefit a certain sect of America, which is not most people, which is not your average working class, which is not a member of the middle class.
	And I really think that you can't get to the issue of American policies, which is that you're not prioritizing your average American.
	And I really think that you can't get to the issue of American policies, which is that you're not prioritizing your average American.
	You're prioritizing the 1%, the D.C. class, the Beltway class, the lobbyist type.
	You're prioritizing, you know, the 1%, the D.C. class, the Beltway class, you know, the lobbyist type.
	But you can't undo that if you don't get to the root issue.
	But you can't undo that if you don't get to the root issue.
	And I think that the root issue is that the Chinese Communist Party has gotten so many of these people on their payroll, either directly, as a lot of these documents that I dive into show, or indirectly.
	And I think it's really hard to untangle the problems that you see facing here.
	We're facing here in America, whether it's critical race theory, all the way down to the economic policies that we've pursued for decades that have allowed PPE manufacturing and prescription drug manufacturing to be sent over to China.
	That doesn't happen without the compromise of the Chinese Communist Party of American elites.
	So when I—I've told this story on the radio, but I want to run it by you as a person who deals with this day in, day out, because I don't.
	I have to do domestic stuff.
	I have to do, whether it's breaking news in Afghanistan.
	But when I arrived in the White House, my background had been about 20 years in national security, specifically counterterrorism, working as a DOD civilian, a professor at our war colleges.
	And that was my expectation, that I come in and I work counterterrorism issues, the defeat ISIS plan, what have you.
	Then my personal journey was once you got in there, once you have the top secret clearances, you read the presidential daily briefing, you get the classified reports, I realized we're going to deal with jihadis, we're going to deal with Iran, we're going to deal with Russia, put North Korea back in their box.
	Iran is, you know, Manageable, but the only peer, the only peer or near peer threat that America faces at a strategic level is communist China.
	I know your your ambit isn't the broad scope of national security, but given that you focus on China day in day out, would you put it in that category of near peer competitor?
	I think they are an enemy, point blank.
	But at the level of peer?
	Oh yes, certainly.
	But I think what's so interesting and what we've really dug into at the National Pulse is how the Chinese Communist Party has really crafted the narrative about their rise.
	in the United States.
	So we're talking about, for example, trips that have been organized by the China-United States Exchange Foundation, which is one of these many, many, many foreign agents that operate in the United States.
	It's essentially funded by the Chinese Communist Party.
	It's part of what's called the United Front, which is a multibillion-dollar effort that's linked to China's military, whose really sole goal is to compromise American elites and get them to push policies that China supports.
	So I always joke, you know, it's Hunter Biden, except the people don't get caught.
	And so much of this group's efforts was actually paying for journalists from every mainstream media outlet, Washington Post, New York Times, you name it, MSNBC, literally all of them.
	You can go check out the story.
	Every single media outlet taking these journalists on trips overseas to China.
	And upon return, when you read the documents that these journalists were forced to basically kind of outline what they were doing, They had to provide favorable coverage of the Chinese Communist Party and what they were doing in the United States and more broadly what that effort represents.
	And keep in mind there's over 250 registered foreign agents on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party in the United States right now.
	These are people who are formally registered with the DOJ to lobby on behalf of China.
	Yeah, and, you know, part of it is that these people have set out to endeavor to change America's perception of China, and that they kind of want to frame it in the context of, oh, well, you know, doing business with China is great.
	We're the two most powerful countries.
	We need to work together.
	It's just the way of the world.
	But I also think it's important to note that they've also set out to endeavor, you know, to change the perception of how Americans view America.
	And I think we've done similar reporting, actually, believe it or not, on how the same group, right, the China United States Exchange Foundation, whose sole goal is to get American elites, American journalist types to really echo the claims of Beijing in the American media landscape.
	They're actually longtime partners of the top group that sued the Trump administration for trying to ban critical race theory.
	from the federal government.
	So there's just, you know, you're asking how I kind of got into this.
	And that's kind of the broader story.
	When I really started looking into it and realizing the extent, kind of the hidden hand that the Chinese Communist Party has over D.C., but more broadly the United States, and really, frankly, the whole Western elite sphere, you can't unsee it.
	You know, you can't go back.
	And I was like, I'm fortunate.
	I'm young.
	I know how to navigate the internet and really get into places that I think most people can't.
	Deleted web pages.
	That's, I'd argue, one of my fortes.
	And, you know, I felt like it was my duty to get this information out there because it's so scary and it's so in front of you.
	And, you know, I think it's the American spirit to fight.
	So that's kind of...
	Given the global extent of this, for those who don't follow these issues, I mean, this is, for example, in Australia a huge issue.
	We have members of Parliament, we have, you know, politicians in Australia who have been found to be taking cash from Communist China to represent Chinese interests.
	So this isn't just about America and China, this is about a plan for global domination, correct?
	Well, that's our future.
	And I'd argue the future is kind of already here because we have a lot of politicians.
	And I'm not just talking about, you know, Joe Biden and his family members, but who have taken money from the Chinese Communist Party.
	But there's also more kind of subversive under the radar avenues that they take to kind of subvert these elected officials.
	You know, of course, you can talk about Eric Swalwell and talk about Hunter Biden.
	But we did, I would say, very groundbreaking reporting at the National Pulse.
	And we uncovered six Democratic members of Congress who are actively invested in Chinese Communist Party owned firms.
	I'm talking about technology companies like Tencent and Alibaba, which, of course, our own State Department has flagged as being, you know, major tools of the Chinese Communist Party that aid and abet their repression both at home and abroad.
	And I think when you see these congressmen who have, you know, six, in some case, seven figure investments in Chinese Communist Party backed firms.
	I mean, to me, that's at the point where you start questioning, you know, where does your allegiance even lie?
	I mean, to me, that's at the point where you start questioning, you know, where does your allegiance be?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	.
	It is so strange that, and I've done this many times live on my show.
	I've done it on other people's shows when they asked it.
	You mentioned Eric Swalwell, Natalie.
	I am able, right now, hand on heart, if the good book were here, I'd put my hand, my other hand on that one, to say, I, Sebastian Gawker, have never had sex with a Chinese agent of the Communist Party's intelligence services.
	I can say that.
	As a matter of fact, why is it that Eric Swalwell to this day can't say that, Natalie?
	I mean, he's a congressman.
	Because he probably did.
	Because he probably did.
	Now, this is funny on the one hand, but the fact that this guy still is on committees that allow him access to top-secret information while he's had sex with a Chinese intelligence officer, this shows the depth of the issue, does it not?
	While he's hurling, you know, foreign collusion allegations with Trump and everyone in his orbit.
	Russia, Russia, Russia.
	It's peak projection.
	I think that's what's so funny about this whole Russia scandal.
	You know, you can dig into all the various establishment players who helped craft this narrative, but it's so funny because I really think that that shows you the mindset of the DC media class in the sense that somehow in their head it was, oh, Trump is soft on Russia.
	And they're like, oh, well, the reason why we're soft on China is because we take so much money from them and because we take trips from them because we have business deals with them.
	And believe it or not, the New York Times and CNN actually helped fund and provide internships to Tsinghua University's, quote, Marxist journalism school that creates the whole new class of Chinese state-run media editors and all that.
	So I think when you kind of analyze the Russia collusion aspect from that angle, you can almost replace – I do this sometimes for fun, which tells you about my social life.
	But you can swap out – instead of Trump, you put mainstream media.
	And instead of Russia, you put the Chinese Communist Party.
	And it's quite literally the same exact headline in the sense that the compromise and the collusion is there.
	But let's be clear here.
	This isn't just about Democrats like Beijing, Biden or Eric Swalwell.
	This has become a bipartisan, RINO, GOP and Democrat party phenomenon.
	China is buying people off on both sides of the aisle, correct?
	Oh, definitely.
	I'm the first to say that the establishment Republican class of people, which, you know, the difference between them and the establishment Democrats, not too much, but those people are the ones who sell out to the Chinese Communist Party the most because they have no principles.
	And I think that void is expertly manipulated by the Chinese Communist Party.
	And there's so many people.
	I'm inclined to think of Bill Cohen, who is a Republican, but he also worked in the Clinton administration, but he has a consulting group called the Cohen Group.
	And a lot of people who now work in the Biden, we call it a regime, at the National Pulse used to work there, including Joe Biden's new ambassador to China, Nicholas Burns.
	And this is a consulting group which has long-standing relations with the China-United States Exchange Foundation.
	Bill Cohen has traveled to China many times a year to meet with these various influence groups, has big-time consulting contracts with Chinese-linked entities, even employs former Chinese Communist Party officials at their firm.
	So that's just kind of, I think, the, you know, tale as old as time in Washington, D.C.
	And that's what I think, on a personal level, gets me so mad about it is because it's these people who have positions that are taxpayer-funded, you know, we've put our faith in them,
	To go and advocate for the interests of America, and yeah, they allegedly, although I'd argue they really don't, you know, pretend to do it for a couple years working in the federal government, and then literally the day they're out, I'm pretty sure Bill Cohen, it was the same month he departed the Clinton White House, they set up lobbying shops, they set up consulting firms, and they start taking foreign money from our sworn adversary, the Chinese Communist Party, and I think it's treasonous, and I think it just on a personal level, it makes me so mad.
	Well, it should.
	If you love this country, it should make you mad.
	How much was my old boss, President Trump, as the Brits say, a spanner in the works?
	How much was he a wrench in the gears for a rising China?
	And for the establishment that wanted to have their palms greased by China's money?
	Oh, he was such, such an impediment to how the establishment seeks to use the Chinese Communist Party.
	I mean, I love talking about it a lot of the times.
	It's too in the weeds, so people kind of tune out and are like, oh, she's talking about more Chinese groups and Chinese Communist Party-linked entities.
	No, we have the time here, so this is where you can get into the weeds.
	I mean, the executive orders that came out of that administration in terms of targeting these specific influence groups, like I said, the China United States Exchange Foundation, the China People's Association for Friendship and Foreign Contact, and the other ones.
	That sounds so Soviet.
	So, so innocuous.
	Utterly Cold War.
	People forget.
	Do you know what the actual name for the Warsaw Pact was?
	It wasn't the Warsaw Pact.
	It was the Warsaw Pact for Friendship and Cooperation.
	Forget that.
	I mean, you're dominating your neighbors, taking control of them.
	Friendship and cooperation.
	China's just playing the same strategy.
	Yeah, they love those terms.
	There's another one, the Chinese Association for International Friendly Contact.
	So they love friendship.
	It's very, very one-way street, I guess, unless you're a member of America's permanent political class.
	But all of these groups, which, you know, really take An elaborate understanding of the way that the Chinese Communist Party's influence efforts were.
	They were all targeted in one way or another by executive orders from the Trump administration to stop people from actually participating and colluding with them, right?
	So, you know, the administration that was smeared as the, you know, foreign collusion administration was actually stopping foreign collusion and they were the most successful that I'd ever seen in recent history of an administration doing that.
	So they were definitely successful.
	In that sense, and I also have to say, it is really interesting because I go through all these websites and I look at their archives and their deleted pages and every other article or press release that these influence groups put out, it's the chairman of that organization smiling next to some titan of industry from America, some huge Wall Street company, you name it.
	And what's so interesting about Trump is that he was never in any of those pictures, right?
	And I think that for someone who, you know, was such a big titan and still is of industry and American real estate, so many people, especially in the real estate market, really have kind of sold out to the Chinese Communist Party.
	That was the way that they kind of chose to broaden their market.
	And I've never seen anyone.
	from the trump organization pictured and any on any of these websites and someone could say you know oh that doesn't mean anything but as someone who does this for a living and you know goes through these websites and tries to figure out who's compromised that really tells you a lot yeah because there are lots of photographs like that of eric swalwell we're talking to natalie winters investigative reporter for the national pulse the national pulse.com if If you believe in America, if you love America, send a message to those around you.
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	The corporate sector.
	We've talked about the Uniparty, we've talked about both sides of the aisle, we've talked about the mainstream media with regards to China.
	Talk to us about big business, about the CEOs who really don't look at their companies now as American companies, they're global, whatever companies.
	How much are they in bed with a communist nation?
	When you look at Nike hiring lobbyists, To kill legislation, to stop the use of labor camps, political labor camps.
	How much of the problem is really big business?
	Yeah, I think that when it comes to big business, you know, the framing of it, it's not a uniquely Chinese Communist Party issue.
	I think it's the issue that when these firms started outsourcing their labor, their manufacturing capabilities, I think their allegiance followed and you know a lot of these these big corporations they want the open borders they want the cheap labor but i've always said that you know these open borders work both ways in the sense that they want cheap labor in and they want to send jobs out they want to send our you know manufacturing capabilities outwards
	and and i think it's you know you don't even have to kind of speculate or or make guesses as to where their their allegiances and ideologies lie you know charlie munger who is you know big guy in in finance big guy business um he said you know quote china did the right thing in response to how the chinese government treated jack maw believe me jack maw is is no hero he's still a member of the chinese communist party
	but this is someone who who the chinese government you know kind of tried to just unperson and do away with because he wanted to maybe get a little creative uh in terms of innovation and the ant group IPO, which is an offshoot of Alibaba.
	But he said in an interview, you know, China was right how they handled him.
	And I think that just shows you and that speaks to what I was talking about in the beginning, which is this idea Of elite merger as opposed to just elite capture in the sense that, you know, I think, frankly, and, you know, talking about big business, I think it's hard to not talk about big tech.
	Yes.
	You know, what the Chinese Communist Party did to Jack Ma, I think, is really what big tech and big business wants to do to Trump supporters.
	Right, to un-person conservatives.
	Exactly.
	They want to Jack Ma us.
	They want to, you know, take this show offline.
	And they do it.
	You know, the National Pulse is banned on Twitter.
	By the way, guys, if you're wondering, we just had our second termination on YouTube.
	Our show site was terminated, then Mr. G, our producer's YouTube site, was terminated yesterday.
	So, yeah, it's real.
	This is the use of big tech.
	In the past, you know, 70, 80 years ago, it was Um, scratching Trotsky out of the photographs with Stalin.
	It was whiting out people who had become de classe.
	Now it's just making, whether it's Mike Flynn's wife having her credit card cancelled.
	Exactly.
	No, it's the tactics of the Chinese Communist Party and it's here and that's sometimes why it's, you know, hard doing what I do because I criticize the Chinese Communist Party so much and they deserve it and they're horrible and, you know, at odds with every value that we hold as Americans.
	But, you know, the American ruling class is kind of doing a lot of the same things.
	Have you paid a penalty or what has happened to you from people here in America saying, what are you doing Natalie?
	You're shaking the car, don't do that.
	You know, knock on wood, although maybe it's a sign I need to do more, I've never been banned from anything.
	I've never, well, at least in the big tech world, I've never, barring the National Pulse, I've never got a slap on the wrist from any of the big social media platforms, although people who watch The War Room may know that a lot of our stories get censored by one of Facebook fact-checking partners called Lead Stories, which we've done a very deep dive into this group.
	Let's slow down here.
	So Lead Stories is one of these quote-unquote fact-checking organs and really they're just another bunch of Democrats, correct?
	And Chinese Communist Party payrollees.
	So Lead Stories is one of these organizations that if you've ever been on Facebook and you click on and you see a story or you get a notification, you've just been exposed to fake news.
	They're the people that get to decide that.
	And they had been censoring our stories, coincidentally, only the ones that seemed to target Biden, for a couple of months.
	And I decided to fight back because I was really mad.
	I was like, I worked really hard on this story.
	I want people to be able to read it.
	So I started digging into the group.
	And at first, we found that of every political donation that employees had sent, they'd all gone to Democrats.
	Of everyone who worked there, there's over 130 years, collectively, of experience working at CNN as journalists.
	But the story gets more interesting because a few months back, they got contracted with TikTok and their parent company, ByteDance, to start fact-checking, which, as people well know, is actually now officially a Chinese state-owned, at least partially, although I'd argue there's no such thing as a partially Chinese state-owned company.
	And they're on their payroll now.
	Fact-checking for Facebook, censoring stories about the origins of COVID-19, and censoring our stories too.
	And we had the editor-in-chief, the founder of the outlet, on our show and he said he was quote, very comfortable being in business with ByteDance and saw no issues working with the Chinese Communist Party.
	Well, that tells you everything.
	You mentioned COVID.
	Let's talk about COVID.
	Big news this week.
	The 900 pages of documents that The Intercept got in a FOIA regarding gain-of-function research funding via a cut-out from the U.S.
	taxpayer and okayed by Fauci.
	Thank you.
	The Give us, I'll give you five minutes, that's luxury, luxury in media.
	Five minutes for those who are not familiar with you Natalie, don't know what the national policy is, haven't heard of Raheem Kassam, which is impossible because Well, he's Rahim.
	What are the most important things about the last year and a half when it comes to COVID and Wuhan and gain of function that most people, 99% of Americans, have no idea about, Natalie?
	Sure.
	Well, I think a lot of people saw this Intercept FOIA kind of document dump and a lot of the headlines were, you know, bombshell, you know, groundbreaking revelation, new documents reveal.
	If you've been reading the National Pulse, it's not new.
	It's not new.
	In summary, what these documents show and what we've kind of, I would say, added color to the National Pulse, you know, detailing the people, the grants, who is profiting, who is, you know, on the ground doing the research.
	It's a grant.
	That started in 2014 called understanding the risk of bat coronavirus emergence and sounds nice enough but when you dig into that grant which is of course now a 3.7 million dollar taxpayer-backed grant you can see that 16 of the 30 studies that were completed under that grant were carried out in conjunction with Chinese Communist Party
	Controlled, not even partially controlled, completely controlled, owned and operated scientific entities.
	And of those 16, 13 were at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
	Which is the only level 4 military biodefense lab in Communist China.
	Yes, it's also the lab that used to have military researchers working there.
	They've deleted those names from their website.
	We have the archives of it.
	And it's also a lab that on March 21st, 2021 listed the National Institutes of Health as a partner and on March 22nd deleted that from their website.
	So that So let me ask the naive question.
	What is America doing giving one red cent to Communist China's biodefense lab?
	Is that like a crazy question Natalie?
	No, you beat me to it, and that's kind of the narrative that I've been hammering.
	It's not a question of whether or not we funded gain-of-function research, which is, of course, kind of a weaponization of the lethality and virulence of different pathogens.
	It's a question of why we were ever funding a Chinese government-controlled lab in the first place.
	And I think people don't really understand.
	It's not just the extent of the Chinese government's kind of control over every aspect of Chinese society, but this is a lab that has a Communist Youth League, that has a United Front Work Department, that has a party disciplinary committee, that on the weekend holds devotion sessions to the Chinese that on the weekend holds devotion sessions to the Chinese Communist Party, that studies the five-year plans.
	You can go on their website and see pictures of people taking the oath.
	To the Chinese Communist Party with their hand over their heart and the Chinese Communist Party flag up in the back.
	They even say in deleted articles that we found that they pledged to implement the Chinese Communist Party's agenda quote without compromise.
	And I would argue that the COVID-19 fits that.
	Pretty well.
	But this is, you know, through and through a Chinese Communist Party run both financially and ideologically run lab.
	So you hit the nail on the head as to why we'd ever be funding it in the first place.
	And when Fauci says, we're not funding it, we never funded it.
	He's only saying that because we went through a cutout.
	That he gave money to a private US entity, and that entity gave it to Wuhan.
	And he knew what he was doing.
	He knew that Wuhan was getting it.
	Yeah, so that's wrong for two reasons.
	One, it's just a lie.
	Put simply, you know, saying, oh, well, we didn't fund it because we sent it to another organization that gave it to them.
	That's how the NIAID, which is Fauci's agency, works.
	And, you know, Fauci has a very close relationship with EcoHealth Alliance.
	That's the organization, EcoHealth Alliance.
	Yeah, it's not just that Fauci sent them money.
	I mean, Fauci spoke at least two times in 2016 at EcoHealth Alliance events.
	Several more, believe it or not, they've been deleted from the website.
	There's pictures of EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Doshak and Anthony Fauci smiling together.
	So the American cutout has deleted the evidence of Fauci being there palling it up with them.
	On their website, he's also deleted tweets documenting another conference that he attended in Singapore, focusing on another virus that was funded by the NIA.
	Which will be the next pandemic.
	And it's funny you say that because it's actually Nipah virus, which is the new one that's actually developing.
	That's just been announced.
	Yeah.
	But I think the other reason, too, why I really dislike Fauci's whole defense, well, it wasn't gain of function.
	And why, again, this whole kind of intercept FOIA dump wouldn't be a bombshell if you were reading the National Pulse, is because the Wuhan Institute of Virology is, you know, 0.0001% of the NIH's involvement in China and more broadly, the Chinese Communist Party's scientific sector. the Chinese Communist Party's scientific sector.
	And just to keep it Fauci-specific, you know, I want to bring the fact that, you know, NIH Director Francis Collins used to actually be on the advisory board of a conference sponsored by BGI Genomics, which people may know is the Chinese data firm that wants to, you know, steal your DNA.
	The State Department said don't use their COVID tests because they want to steal your DNA.
	But in 2010, and was later renewed in 2011, The NIH actually spearheaded under Fauci's deputy, a guy named Hugh, they actually traveled to China and signed a memorandum of understanding with the National Natural Science Foundation of China, another one of these kind of bizarre names, but to collaborate on research.
	And what's so interesting about this, and I think it speaks to the heart of the problem, which part of it is just the civil-military fusion that you see over there, but you know, the National Natural Science Foundation of China, I've independently seen, you know, they funded over 75 studies alongside branches of the People's Liberation Army, including, you know, the Artillery Academy.
	And when we say People's Liberation Army, it's not about liberating, it's the Communist Army of China.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Only liberating pathogens from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
	But no, this is ardently a branch of the PLA, of China's military, but nonetheless, in 2010, and like I said, renewed in 2011, the NIH felt comfortable inking an agreement with them to collaborate on research, and I frankly, it's under this broader framework That you were allowed to start seeing eco-health collaboration with these Chinese government-linked labs.
	It's not a secret, this grant is on the NIH database, which about a month ago, they actually pulled down the database for about a week.
	Yeah, we know why they're doing that.
	It's because of Natalie, that's why they did it, because they've got to scrub stuff.
	OK, so let's talk about the response.
	We've got a cut here that if we had magnetic tape, it would be worn out by now.
	Let's play the cut that we've been using for a while now here on America First.
	Play cut.
	You have no right to say in front of China that you speak to China from a position of power.
	So let me say here that in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength.
	The United States
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	give us a little bit of a so what or a bit of homework.
	You haven't written a book yet.
	Shame on you.
	Get busy.
	It's in the works.
	Good!
	That's what we like to hear.
	What should, in addition to following you, Natalie G Winters on Twitter, in addition to Listening to your colleague Rahim checking out The National Pulse.com, what is it people should avail themselves?
	They're not going to be sinologists.
	They're not going to become China experts.
	I always tell people, read Sun Tzu.
	You can read it in 90 minutes.
	What is it you recommend to Americans who are kind of waking up and saying, yeah, this China thing, not good.
	What should they look at?
	What should they read?
	Okay, well, I'm trying to think.
	I would say, and people at first might say, I don't know how to do that, it's too difficult, but the primary documents, and I'm very good at citing them, but, you know, FARA.gov is a website that you can access, and it's actually- Explain what FARA.gov is.
	So this is, FARA is short for the Foreign Agent Registration Act.
	So these are US citizens who have said, I'm working for a foreign government, I am lobbying for whatever, Vanuatu, okay?
	And you want people to understand what on that database?
	So if you go to the website, you can filter it, and you can put China in.
	And you can see all the way from before the CCP had ever taken over China, all the people, all the lobbying, consulting contracts.
	All the way back.
	It's a 1938 statue, so it starts there.
	And even just from a historical perspective, taking politics out of it, it's really, really, really interesting.
	So I would recommend doing that.
	And I just think, maybe I'm just obsessed with lobbyists and lobbying, but I just think it's very emblematic of a bigger profit.
	I'm so sorry.
	It's time for me to finish the interview, clearly.
	No, no, no.
	It's going to the primary sources, because you're smart enough.
	You don't need someone to spin it for you.
	I'm aware I'm saying this as I spin documents.
	They're really interesting to read because it really is, in first hand, kind of, you know, the eulogy of America.
	And you see these people who are selling out the country for retainers of, you know, 15k a month and trying to get Huawei in our infrastructure.
	You know, we have lobbyists in America who are trying to get America to join the Belt and Road Initiative.
	Which is so absurd, I don't know why.
	Which is China's plan for the world domination, by the way.
	Okay, guys, read Sun Tzu and find out who's selling out America.
	Go to Farah.gov and we've got a title for your book, Eulogy for America.
	There we go.
	Natalie Winters, keep doing what you do.

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