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Aug. 31, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden lied; Americans stranded in Afghanistan

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	- -You've got like 10,000 to 15,000 Americans in the country right now, right? to 15,000 Americans in the country right now, right?
	And are you committed to making sure that the troops stay until every American who wants to be out is out?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	How about our Afghan allies?
	Does the commitment hold for them as well?
	The commitment holds to get everyone out that, in fact, we can get out and everyone should come out.
	And that's the objective.
	That's what we're doing now.
	That's the path we're on.
	And I think we'll get there.
	So Americans should understand the troops might have to be there beyond August 31st?
	No, Americans should understand that we're going to try to get it done before August 31st.
	But if we don't?
	The troops will stay.
	If we don't, we'll determine at the time who's left.
	And?
	And if there's American forces, if there's American citizens left, we're gonna stay till we get them all out.
	That's a lie.
	The man who thinks he's the President of the United States just lied to you.
	He's going to do it again in a few minutes.
	He's now an hour and a half late for his address to the nation.
	The press corps have just been told, we're not going to give you another time.
	You're just going to have to wait until we announce it over the PA in the White House that the man who bears the title Commander-in-Chief is now ready to talk.
	But he will lie again.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to his predecessor, President Donald Trump, who wouldn't leave any Americans behind.
	And let me be clear here.
	There are Americans in Afghanistan now, trapped, stranded by this administration.
	Not individuals who have families there, have charities, churches they've planted, no.
	Americans who want to leave and who haven't been evacuated.
	How do I know that?
	If you look at my social media feeds, you will see a video I posted earlier today on the prompting of my producer Jeff, who's absolutely right, because of the information I have available to me.
	A very good friend of mine who has a storied background in uniform serving this nation with counter-terrorism expertise, a Christian, a patriot, is using his own money and the donations of other patriots to rescue Americans stranded in Afghanistan.
	And this isn't hearsay, this isn't some text.
	I actually have, he sent me, I'm not going to give you any names, the photographs of their passports.
	Right here, on my phone.
	American passports.
	These people want to leave Afghanistan.
	82 US citizens.
	And my friend has the aircraft to get them out.
	I have the call signs.
	I have the manifests here.
	I can't share them with you for obvious reasons.
	But he said, I'm giving them to you, Sebastian.
	So that one day in the near future, when they lie about this story, and these people are safe, you can tell the world just how great a lie was told by Biden and every coward in his administration, including the flag officers, the generals, who are lying to America right now, and who should be court-martialed, arrested, and thrown in the brig.
	Here's the most shocking of all, and I thank Donald Trump Jr.
	for retweeting my video message today.
	I have been provided the unclassified emails that my friend and others have received from the State Department that tell them not to try and leave, not to fly to our lily pads, our air bases, That our friends have provided us in the region to get our people out wearing uniform or working for the government.
	So here is the shocking news.
	The Biden administration's Department of State, our diplomatic Department of State,
	Run by Antony Blinken, a bag carrier for Susan Benghazi Rice, is telling our partners in the region, our allies, who have the capacity to do so, to refuse landing rights to private vessels
	Being used by Americans to rescue Americans.
	Yes, you heard me correctly.
	I will say it one more time for the record, so millions of Americans understand what your government is doing to your fellow Americans who want to come home.
	Home.
	Yesterday, the pathetic figure of a man who is the CENTCOM commander said, the war in Afghanistan has ended.
	No.
	No, it hasn't.
	Why do we even fly?
	Those missing in action flags in front of our government buildings.
	To remember those who weren't accounted for, whose bodies never came home, the prisoners of war who we have now no accounting for from Southeast Asia, from Vietnam, from 50 years ago.
	How about right now?
	How about just the 82 American citizens my dear friend is trying to fly out of Afghanistan, but who are being obstructed.
	By your government that is telling our partners in the region, the nations we have worked with, not to permit those planes to land with those American refugees.
	This is treasonous.
	Because the US government, the federal government, really, forget interstate trade and commerce, only has one responsibility, one obligation above all else to you and anyone else that is an American citizen.
	To protect you.
	To provide national security.
	Everything else is secondary.
	Everything else is nugatory if you don't have national security.
	Whether it is from the cartels streaming illegal aliens across our southern border, bringing in more fentanyl that is needed to kill every American in America.
	Or whether It is the Taliban regime that protected Bin Laden.
	Bin Laden's chief of security, it's amazing, we'll show you the video later, has arrived back in Afghanistan to a hero's welcome.
	The Taliban regime is having its officials publicly on television say, what do you mean Bin Laden?
	Oh, he had nothing to do with September 11.
	That's a conspiracy theory.
	These are the people that we surrendered Afghanistan to.
	These are the people who now control $80 billion worth of equipment you paid for.
	The best, best equipment An army can afford.
	And right now, as they are armed to the teeth, your government is preventing the rescue of American citizens.
	How angry are you?
	Call the White House right now.
	202-456-1414.
	Do it today.
	Send Biden, that coward, that callous husk of a man, a very simple message.
	We do not leave Americans behind.
	Do it now.
	Right?
	Thank you.
	The imagery of those guys walking around in US equipment is just... It's unbelievable.
	I never thought I'd ever see something like that.
	Can somebody log in my computer and reset?
	Yeah, give me a moment.
	Yeah, I think it's Snap.
	It's the same as the-- You're doing it.
	Oh, OK.
	Yeah, give me a moment.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	But I might do video cut 10 first.
	Video cut 10, okay.
	And I'm grabbing that footage of the Bin Laden aid real quick that you wanted.
	I'm gonna make that a video cut.
	Yeah, that'll be for Roger when he's on.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'll just call it a cut 18.
	Okay, we got 20 seconds.
	Okay, we got 20 seconds.
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	Let's remind the world of what it was like only nine months ago to have true leadership in the White House.
	Cut 10, my former boss, President Trump.
	We had it under total control.
	And I let the leader know, you will be hit like no country's ever been hit.
	And he fully understood that.
	He wasn't going to do anything.
	And again, we didn't lose a soldier in 18 months because of me, because of our agreement.
	It was a very strong agreement.
	And if they didn't fulfill all the conditions, then we bombed the hell out of them.
	We were in the strongest position.
	It was not possible for us to lose.
	And we — I wanted to get out.
	As we were there long enough, we were there 21 years, like a police force.
	I wanted to get out.
	And we would have gotten out with total dignity.
	It would have actually been a win.
	It would have been a win.
	That was President Trump on this show last week.
	It would have been a win and we would have left with total dignity.
	You know it because when he was negotiating our withdrawal, the Taliban weren't keeping their promises, so he bombed them!
	Because that's who he is.
	Now, you know me.
	I'm not just a radio host.
	I love listening to radio, and my good friend Chris Platt has the morning show in D.C., and he had an incredible caller this morning, and I want to share his analysis with you.
	He's a Naval Academy graduate, and it is the most strategic analysis I've heard in a very, very, very long time.
	Play cut.
	I was actually listening to you back when I was a midshipman of Naval Academy many, many years ago.
	Thanks for everything that you do in your show.
	Thank you.
	I was just going to say, you know, the risk is the whole point.
	You know, these guys are supposed to get stars on their collar because they're willing to take a risk in order to win for America.
	And none of them have done that over the past 20 years.
	None of them have been willing to take a risk.
	And, you know, what Stu did was take risk and show them what accountability and what, you know, what boldness looks like.
	And yeah, he didn't do it the right way, you know, quote unquote, because he was in uniform.
	It's not like he doesn't know what the, you know, what the regulations are on making a video in uniform.
	It's because the way he did it is the point.
	And none of these guys will ever do that.
	They'll never stand up and take accountability for their actions.
	It's totally antithetical to who they are.
	And we are never going to win another war unless we purge these guys from the Pentagon, unless we start over.
	Because this is an entire generation of guys who are completely unwilling to take personal risk in order to win a fight.
	Who do you hold accountable personally?
	I personally hold accountable the general officers who essentially spent the past 20 years fighting the war six months at a time.
	So you could run the whole list, but we don't have any more Peter Paces.
	You know, the guys from essentially Pace onwards and all the Joint Chiefs from essentially that time onward.
	I mean, Joe Dunford, you know.
	General Mattis, John Kelly, all these guys who were supposed heroes of ours sat there and watched it all happen.
	They were sitting there in charge in 2008 when Barack Obama essentially announced that we were going to withdraw in the same breath that he said we were going to surge.
	So these guys all sat by and watched these decisions be made in Washington and none of them ever had the courage to stand up and say that's not how we're going to win the war.
	And furthermore, none of them ever came out with a strategic or operational design that said this is how we're going to surge and essentially bring the enemy to a culmination point and win this fight and go home.
	None of them ever did that.
	And so we sat there and we fought six months at a time, brawling one little field and one block by block at a time while they continued to essentially raise in rank.
	And so, yeah, I hold those guys accountable, not the political establishment.
	The political establishment is what it is.
	We had general officers in charge because they were the ones who were supposed to be able to bring that victory.
	And, you know, at the tactical level, we were winning.
	And to this day, at the tactical level, we win.
	These guys have been unable to turn that tactical victory into operational or strategic success.
	And that's on them.
	Sat there and stood up and said, first, we're going to cut off and then we're going to kill it.
	That inspired an entire generation of people who wanted to go out and fight and win.
	And I enlisted days after September 11th, because that's what I thought we were going to go do.
	And that's how I thought Americans were going to fight and win wars.
	And on my third and fourth and fifth deployment, I sat there asking myself, when are any of these guys going to tell me how we're going to translate this into a victory speech?
	And none of them did.
	They all just sat there a year at a time.
	This man that you just heard, Annapolis grad, multiple tours, knows exactly what he's talking about.
	There was no strategic or operational design deployed to win.
	There was no plan that would bring us to a culminating point, this is all terminology from the strategic world, a culminating point where we would destroy the enemy.
	And instead, for 20 years, we fought a different war every six months.
	And who's responsible?
	The generals.
	And it is Obama's generals.
	It is the people who came up through the ranks, who were 05s, 06s, 10 years ago.
	These are the people who got their first star under Obama and became political animals, political beasts.
	And they never spoke the truth.
	Not one of them resigned on principle because the thing they were told to do was impossible, was a fantasy to try and create a federal functioning state in Afghanistan.
	They are cowards.
	And that caller is right.
	Every single one of these generals must be fired.
	Otherwise, we will never win a war again.
	God bless him for his service.
	And let's say a prayer right now as this decrepit old man takes the podium at the White House.
	This pseudo leader addresses the nation.
	Instead, let's do something useful.
	Let's pray for all our true warfighters that protect us and for those Americans who are now potentially or actually Hostages inside a jihadi-controlled Afghanistan.
	And let's pray for those brave Americans like my friend who are trying to rescue them in the face of an administration that is trying to stop that rescue mission.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Stay on this channel.
	And then it's
	which one. - Okay.
	Pipe in the audio.
	Can you feed it in the break?
	Can you pipe in the audio?
	Yeah, we got to hear this.
	All right, I'll put that on.
	Yeah, come in with this when we start.
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	31st for American troops to withdraw.
	The assumption was that more than 300,000 Afghan national security forces that we had trained over the past two decades and equipped would be a strong adversary in their civil wars with the Taliban.
	on.
	That assumption that the Afghan government would be able to hold on for a period of time beyond military drawdown turned out not to be accurate.
	But I still instructed our national security team to prepare for every eventuality, even that one.
	And that's what we did.
	So we were ready when the Afghan security forces, after two decades of fighting for their country and losing thousands of their own, did not hold on as long as anyone expected.
	We were ready when they and the people of Afghanistan watched their own government collapse and their president flee.
	Amid the corruption and malfeasance, handing over the country to their enemy, the Taliban, and significantly increasing the risk to U.S.
	personnel and our allies.
	As a result, to safely extract American citizens before August 31st, as well as embassy personnel, allies and partners, and those Afghans who have worked with us and fought alongside of us for 20 years, I had authorized 6,000 troops, American troops, to Kabul to help secure the airport.
	As General McKenzie said, this is the way the mission was designed.
	It was designed to operate under severe stress and attack, and that's what it did.
	Since March, we reached out 19 times to Americans in Afghanistan with multiple warnings.
	And offers to help them leave Afghanistan all the way back as far as March.
	After we started the evacuation 17 days ago, we did initial outreach and analysis and identified around 5000 Americans who had decided earlier to stay in Afghanistan but now wanted to leave.
	Our Operation Allied Rescue ended up getting more than 5,500 Americans out.
	We got out thousands of citizens and diplomats from those countries that went into Afghanistan with us to get Bin Laden.
	We got out locally employed staff in the United States Embassy and their families, totaling roughly 2,500 people.
	We got thousands of Afghan translators.
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	Because of their family roots in Afghanistan, The bottom line, 90% of Americans in Afghanistan who wanted to leave were able to leave.
	And for those remaining Americans, there is no deadline.
	We remain committed to get them out if they want to come out.
	Secretary of State Blinken is leading the continued diplomatic efforts to ensure safe passage for any American, Afghan partner, or foreign national Who wants to leave Afghanistan?
	In fact, just yesterday.
	So the man who bears the title President is angrily railing against those who dare criticize him in the last few minutes as he speaks from the White House.
	He's blamed everyone except himself.
	He's blamed the Afghan government.
	He's blamed the Afghan army.
	And He's blamed the Americans in Afghanistan for not leaving, saying, we emailed them 19 times.
	Oh, so great of you to do that.
	But he revealed the truth.
	You just heard it.
	He left Americans behind.
	He just said 90% of those who wanted to leave Have left.
	Which means what?
	It means 10% of Americans who wanted to leave are still there.
	And your State Department, you lying piece of excrement, is blocking their escape.
	Yes, your State Department.
	I've seen the emails.
	I have the evidence.
	You are a disgrace.
	You are a traitor to the American people left in Afghanistan.
	You've said that you've got out five and a half thousand Americans.
	What about the estimates that it was closer to 40,000 Americans?
	What about the people who are stuck there right now on airframes, the call signs of which I have?
	Whose pilots are being told they are not allowed to land in the countries of the region, being instructed by your State Department.
	You are a traitor to those Americans.
	However angrily you rail at the teleprompter, you are a traitor.
	They tried to impeach your predecessor twice.
	Once for a phone call.
	You should be removed from office for betraying Americans.
	Your call's next here on America First.
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	Your calls, first call of the day.
	Scott in Philadelphia, line four.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Great to talk to you.
	It's a real honor.
	Thank you.
	I did make the phone call to the White House.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	They are working so hard that I got a recorded message that says, please call back another time.
	Our hours are 11 a.m.
	to 3 p.m.
	Coincidentally, that's when you come on the air.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	11 to 3 is what they're working on your taxpayer dying, Scott?
	Yeah, exactly.
	They're working hard.
	11 to 3.
	OK, Jeff, call the White House.
	I need that recorded.
	Yeah.
	Tuesday through Thursday.
	It's not even the whole week.
	It's just Tuesday through Thursday.
	I guess that's the message the Americans trapped in Afghanistan are getting as well.
	What do you think, Scott?
	I would not doubt it.
	I am so furious.
	When I heard you open today, I just couldn't believe it.
	And I don't have a whole lot of respect.
	I didn't have a whole lot of respect for John McCain as a politician.
	I respected his service.
	What did he say about Blinken?
	He was right about Tony Blinken, if nothing else.
	He was definitely right about him.
	What did he say about Blinken?
	He said not to trust him.
	They were trying to confirm him as an assistant secretary of state.
	Wow.
	He said that he was trouble and dangerous.
	He called him dangerous, I believe.
	You've educated me.
	I'm going to check that out.
	We're going to try to find that video, that audio.
	It was shortly before he passed.
	Not a big fan, not a big fan of McCain, but we will check that out.
	Thank you, Scott, and thank you for trying to call the White House.
	Maybe try them again tomorrow after 11 o'clock when they're actually awake and when Biden gets up from his nap.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Do you want that 20 second reminder in your ear?
	Okay.
	What happened to the clock there?
	The clock was weird.
	I didn't notice.
	It went to three minutes something.
	Okay.
	Yeah, just say 20 in my ear.
	Yeah, I'll use the in-ear one.
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	Yep.
	That is true as well.
	See on the phone.
	She?
	She, sorry.
	She'll be on the phone.
	OK.
	Hello, America First.
	Do you want Biden up again?
	No.
	I'll need the mics for MTG.
	Thank you.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Al Qaeda affiliates in Syria and the Arabian Peninsula and ISIS attempting to create a caliphate in Syria and Iraq and establishing affiliates across Africa and Asia.
	The fundamental obligation of a president, in my opinion, is to defend and protect America, not against threats of 2001, But against the threats of 2021 and tomorrow.
	Unbelievable.
	The man who bears the title President of the United States is lecturing Americans right now from the podium at the White House saying he is protecting us from the threats of today, not yesterday.
	As the Chief of Security for Bin Laden returns to Afghanistan to a hero's welcome, as the Taliban is armed with U.S.
	weapons the likes of which no jihadi insurgency in mankind's history has ever had.
	Okay, enough!
	Enough of the liar, the coward, the clown.
	Let's talk to somebody who has helped us out already with our attempt to get Americans out of Afghanistan this morning.
	She has been watching this pretender's speech on a TV that is just above the flag of service of her father.
	Far more appropriate than anything that husk of a man is saying.
	Her name is Marjorie Taylor Greene, and she's the Congresswoman for Georgia's 14th District.
	Welcome, MTG.
	Welcome, Congresswoman.
	And thank you for your support already today for those Americans.
	Thank you so much, Sebastian.
	I just can't tell you how angry I am right now listening to this man lie on television.
	And I sent you the picture with my father's service flag.
	Right underneath the TV.
	It's shocking to me.
	I mean, we, generations ago, our grandparents' generation, they were willing to go to the extent of dropping the atom bomb to end World War II.
	They never left any man behind.
	These were, you know, it was a generation of courage that would defeat their enemy.
	And here we have Joe Biden, this He's just such a liar on television saying that we won't leave Americans behind, but he did.
	And they don't even know how many they left behind.
	And then people in his administration and fully under his command as commander-in-chief have actually blocked the ability for Americans to be rescued through private groups.
	I mean, you can't even make this up.
	This man, I've introduced articles of impeachment for dereliction of duty, but at this point, I believe it's actually moving towards treason.
	And I'm just echoing the voice of millions of Americans all over the country that feel the same way.
	And it's unbelievable what we're going through.
	I don't even know my own country anymore.
	Does he get away?
	We played a part of his opening comments today.
	He has blamed everybody else.
	He's blamed the Afghan government.
	He's blamed the Americans stuck in theater.
	Can he get away?
	Is there nothing he can lie about that the Democrats won't say, OK, that's too much, Joe?
	Is he covered in Teflon, Congresswoman Greene?
	Apparently he is.
	I mean, he's even blamed President Trump, which is ridiculous.
	Yeah, apparently he is covered in Teflon.
	And you know what that tells all of us?
	That tells us If he is unwilling to take responsibility, and he should, you know, just to honor the position of the presidency, he should resign, but he's refusing to do so.
	He's refusing to take any responsibility.
	But that tells you that everyone that works under him is standing with him in this decision and in this grave just abandonment of Americans and our values.
	And, you know, completely demoralizing our military, our poor military.
	They don't want to leave Americans behind.
	They don't want to leave their service dogs behind.
	They didn't want to leave all their weapons and over $80 billion of U.S. military equipment arming the Taliban government and arming their nation, arming terrorists.
	They didn't want to do any of this.
	But he is completely demoralizing our military, leaving them in failure, leaving them where they couldn't even fight back after 13 were murdered in a terrorist suicide bomb.
	I mean, this is...
	It's such an outrage, but all of them are responsible, every single one of them, because they're standing there with him and going along with all of it.
	They are.
	All the generals, all the cabinet members are supporting these lies, are supporting this propaganda.
	We're talking to Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene from Georgia.
	Please follow her at RepMTG on Twitter.
	That's RepMTG.
	He's just said, he This doddering, senile old man has just said we now need to concentrate on security threats in America.
	I'm going to ask the question because we're days away.
	We are days away from it.
	The 20th anniversary of the greatest terror attack in modern history.
	This man thinks that the terrorist attacks in America are only things that generate or come from inside the country.
	Are we more in danger for the anniversary than we were for the last four years, Congresswoman?
	I think we are.
	I think we're in grave danger.
	And I think that no one in leadership is taking any responsibility over what danger we're in.
	As a matter of fact, I heard from one of my colleagues just earlier this afternoon that they are getting word that it is very possible that the Taliban Or ISIS.
	They aren't sure which one it is, but either one of the two have already been making their way across our southern border.
	Now, the timeline fits.
	It's easy for them to do.
	Our southern border is wide open.
	We've already caught terrorists down there in the past few months, but they are coming.
	They want to make a point of 9-11.
	This is the 20th anniversary, and they definitely want to remind America that Islam wants to rule the world.
	And they want to bring Sharia law on the entire world.
	And that is one point that these, these people want to make.
	Um, so yeah, I think we're in, I think we're in grave danger and I think it's something that we have to take seriously.
	And that's why I have been begging and hammering my colleagues that we have to impeach Biden and keep going down the list.
	This is not a time where we sit back and talk about the constitution and talk about things like this.
	It is right in our Constitution, and it is morally correct to remove leadership that has failed our country on such a level.
	High crimes and misdemeanors and treason definitely falls under that.
	Follow this lady, Green, with an E, green.house.gov, and on Twitter, RepMTG.
	Thank you for everything you are doing.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	you you Mic's on.
	It's so shady what he's doing too, like right now.
	He's framing it as a dichotomy of, like, it's either we do this or we stay at war for 20 years.
	Right.
	And people are buying it.
	That's the worst part.
	I don't think anybody is.
	I got friends that I've talked to who are like, well, you know, this is, you know, we're gonna get out of here.
	It was gonna be a mess.
	And I said, well, you know, there's that cash patel in here.
	Not the plant.
	I just can't.
	Pray for the people who are stuck in there.
	That helicopter footage, man.
	I just... I can't.
	Worst part is it's not getting better.
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	Amen.
	Unbelievable.
	He's leaving the podium just before he said this is a wise decision, this is the best decision, to leave Americans stranded as hostages in Afghanistan and of course he took no questions and he put his mask back on because science denial, that's part of it as well.
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	Let's go to Alex in Brooklyn, line one.
	Hi Sebastian, thanks for taking the call.
	I have a couple of comments, but first I wanted to ask you, the next time you have President Trump on, if you could take my call, I want to tell him how much I really, we need him so desperately.
	I get that a lot, and he knows it, but thank you.
	What are your comments, Alex?
	Okay, so some phony media personalities are saying that President Trump is responsible for what happened in Afghanistan.
	And some of them are going so far to say that if he were president, the situation would have been way worse.
	But that's such a ridiculous thing to think because it's not like he wasn't president.
	He was president for four years and we did not see any of these catastrophes taking place unless you want to look at COVID-19.
	But that was not a decision made by Donald Trump.
	Correct.
	It came here.
	He would never decide that it should come here unless he was as stupid as Joe Biden.
	But all those disasters under the Biden administration are direct results of decisions made by the buffoon who's now sleeping in the White House.
	Joe Biden, we need to wake him up and take him out of there to a nursing home, or better yet, a nursing home in Afghanistan, the place that he just destroyed.
	The second thing I wanted to tell you is, I was thinking, you know, amid all these crises, is there even one good thing this administration has accomplished?
	And the fact is that there isn't.
	They just recently passed the inflation bill, the so-called infrastructure bill that has more to do with inflation.
	Yes.
	Because that's what it's going to cause us than it has with infrastructure.
	That's a disaster.
	Our gasoline prices are up because Joe canceled the XL pipeline.
	He's not saving the environment because we're still using gasoline.
	That's not good for our country, just at higher prices.
	And it's having to be trucked.
	It's having to be trucked instead of being safe and cheaply transported on a pipeline.
	We have to truck it now.
	How does that save the environment, Alex?
	It does not at all.
	It's just making it even worse, as you once said.
	But I do give him credit for the vaccine distribution process, but that's simply because he didn't touch it, and he let it go when Trump set it up.
	So it's not something he did.
	It's something that he didn't do.
	He didn't screw it up.
	I would have given him the same credit for the border wall if he wouldn't have touched it, but he'd have to touch it.
	And Afghanistan, if it would have let the Trump withdrawal plan work its way out, it would have been great.
	We would have gotten the troops out safely.
	It's exactly like our friend Dennis Prager says.
	Whatever he touches, whatever liberalism touches, it destroys.
	Thank you, Alex.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	It's...
	Is it fair to say, would you use the word surrender when it comes to Biden and the Taliban?
	Is that what he's doing in Afghanistan today?
	A total and complete surrender.
	I've never seen anything like it.
	For no reason.
	We had it so powerful, they wouldn't have done anything until we were gone.
	That was the 45th President of the United States here on America First last week calling what is happening in Afghanistan an utter surrender.
	All U.S.
	troops have left as of yesterday.
	However, as I've been reporting all through the show, there are at least 82 Americans trapped there.
	A friend of mine trying to get them out there with the State Department refusing to assist.
	And now, the incumbent in the White House giving a speech moments ago, blaming everyone except himself for the situation, and closing his speech with these words, it was the right decision, it was the best decision.
	Let's go to a presidential historian, financier, and a great supporter of America First.
	He's the author of Donald J. Trump, a President Like No Other, co-host with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett of the Scholars and Sense podcast.
	Lord Conrad Black, welcome back to America First.
	Thanks very much, Sebastian.
	Always a pleasure.
	Lord Black, the best decision, the right decision?
	You can argue that it was the right decision to leave, although I don't agree that it was, because as the former president, whom you just took an excerpt from, had arranged and mentioned, the Americans were sustaining no casualties, Taliban's been kept out of the cities, and Afghanistan as a whole was prevented from becoming breeding ground for terrorists.
	And the stasis that had been arrived at was, I think, a better condition than removing everyone.
	But the best decision in the sense of the execution of it, no, it has been an absolute disaster.
	I mean, a moron knows that if you're evacuating a place, you get the vulnerable people, the more difficult ones to get.
	It's like an airplane.
	When it lands, they let the ladies with baby carriages and men on crutches and that sort of thing, they get them out first.
	And not that anyone's under any pressure then.
	But, you know, you get the vulnerable people out and then the military, you know, condense down to their departure points and cover everyone's departure and then leave.
	But there was no need for it.
	And to leave $85 billion of hardware, to go without consulting your allies who were providing three quarters of the troops, by the way.
	By the end of it, as you know, there were 7,500 NATO allies to 2,500 Americans.
	I mean, it all came as a startling shock to them.
	That's no way to run an alliance.
	The most successful alliance in the history of the world, NATO.
	I mean, every conceivable diplomatic and military error was made.
	They've stranded an unknown number.
	They admit to some hundreds, but it may be more than that, of Americans there, despite pledges to the country.
	They've stranded thousands of Afghans whose lives are forfeit in these circumstances, having admitted healthy, skelterged thousands of others without any knowledge of whether they'd actually contributed to help the Americans or not.
	Now, they're probably good people if they have the initiative to leave.
	Then, apart from the out-and-out terrorists, they're probably in addition to the countries that they fetch up in, but that's not how you conduct an evacuation.
	Even under the pressure of the German army in 1940, The British and French managed an orderly evacuation.
	The French defenders, who were destined to stay anyway, and the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force conducted a magnificent covering operation while 17 divisions, 340,000 men, 240 English and 100,000 French, were evacuated.
	And they were fighting the Wehrmacht, not a rag tag of goat-herd terrorists, which is what we have in power in Afghanistan now.
	No, it's been a disaster, a terrible disaster, and a totally unnecessary humiliation of the United States.
	If they had said, we're going to leave under this program and you know, done it in sequence as has been described, not only by me, but almost every commentator, including you, of how you conduct an evacuation, and then announced they'd gone.
	That would not have been humiliating.
	People could question the decision, but, you know.
	It wouldn't have been an embarrassment to the country or something that caused, for the first time in history, the president of the United States to be referred to as a shameful character in the British Parliament, as he was, to general agreement, all parties, left to right.
	And, no, I mean, how—look, I'm always respectful of the presidency of the U.S., and as much as I can be a beholder of that office, but how President Biden can stand there and angrily announce that it was the best decision and the right decision, embracing not just the decision, but the unutterably fatuous and disastrous way it was conducted, I just don't understand that.
	Let's look at the timeline over the last 10 days and the art of strategic communications from the administration, or the lack thereof, Lord Black.
	For the first week it was either absent without leave, having to fly back from Camp David, giving stuttering press conferences that weren't conferences because he refused to take any questions.
	Then he got back in the saddle at least Half in the saddle was at an event where a reporter wanted to ask him about Afghanistan and he says no I'm not answering questions about Afghanistan so it was either defensive or doddering and then today that that flick was that that switch was flicked and it was aggressive it was staring into the camera and and and very combative
	As a man who's built media empires on both sides of the Atlantic, in the Antipodes as well, I'd like to ask your prognosis.
	We've seen a little, a little turning of the worm, if you will, the odd member of the press corps asking a tough question.
	What happens next?
	He's turned on the aggressive.
	Will that placate?
	Will that shut down the White House press corps, the legacy corps?
	Or is the honeymoon finally ending, Lord Black?
	I believe it is ending with half of the cheering section.
	I think half of the cheering section has defected and fled like President Biden's description of the Afghan army.
	I mean, I've actually taken it upon myself over the 10 days that you mentioned to look at CNN and MSNBC.
	And I find that CNN is essentially fled.
	They're not going down to the ship.
	They bring on guests who severely criticize the administration, and some of their own commentators have done so as well.
	Now, they're not as hard-hitting as Fox, but they're clearly giving the impression that this has been a shambles.
	MSNBC is going down to the ship, and in a sense...
	One salutes their courage in this place, though it is, as they sink beneath the waves.
	I mean, Lawrence O'Donnell aggressively saying that this was a courageous decision.
	I mean, he's referring to the decision to abandon thousands of people utterly committed to and safety guaranteed by the United States, as well as at least hundreds of Americans.
	He is commending the courage of leaving $85 billion of sophisticated military equipment in the hands of America's enemies.
	He is commending the courage of scuttling out on the Allies, the British, the French, the Germans, all of them, with substantial forces engaged in Afghanistan, and just running for the exit without even a word over his shoulder that that's what he's doing.
	As if that's how you run an alliance.
	It isn't courage, of course.
	It's absolute incompetence and cowardice.
	But they are going to call it courage.
	And in my opinion, there is no question.
	The American public recognizes in varying degrees that even if it was correct to leave Afghanistan, the way it was done was a disaster.
	Now, in my opinion, the final fallacy that is going to emerge very soon already has, in some respects, considering the terrible business a few days ago where 13 american servicemen were killed uh and women uh is this theory we've left the war is over well of course the war isn't over no war against terrorism what's going on is going to be the amplification of terrorist activity generated from afghanistan so it's rubbish from a to z lord black
	you there i'm here oh yes right and and And the idea in his speech today, and I touched upon this earlier, he said it's time to focus on the domestic national security threat.
	As if the September 11th threat, as if the ISIS threat, was something that was outside of our borders, that couldn't move, that couldn't exploit The Age of the Jetliner and the Internet.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
	He is the co-host of the podcast, Scholars in Sense, author of A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, amongst many, many other books we will be discussing, especially my favorite at the moment, A Matter of Principle, his autobiography.
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	I have to ask, because I get my producer to do this for me, because I can't stand it.
	How was your 10 days of watching the legacy left-wing media, Conrad?
	It was painful, of course, but edifying in a way.
	CNN is flaking off here.
	And the bits and pieces I saw of the three non-cable networks, the traditional networks, they're hedging their bets much more than they did before.
	I mean, they can't and they know they can't go on serving up Trump hate.
	Trump at the moment is a retired president living in Florida, and they can't run against him any more than they could now against Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton or George W. Bush.
	So they've got to deal with this administration as a subject unto itself.
	And in that context, it is impossible to deal with it gently over this issue.
	And by the way, what you said is right.
	I mean, Biden wants to get—he loves COVID, and he even rather loved the hurricane.
	Ida gave him a break.
	I'm sure he regrets the casualties and the damage done by the hurricane.
	I'm not suggesting he's a, you know, he's a demented person.
	He isn't.
	But he's a decent man, I think.
	And by the way, I object to some of these extreme descriptions of them.
	I think they're uncalled for.
	But the hurricane is a wonderful subject for him because he can talk about sending aid down to Louisiana and Mississippi and so on and change the subject.
	I mean, his answer to Afghanistan was last week when he said, well, that was a few days ago.
	Right.
	When he just said, I won't take questions.
	If Donald Trump had said that, well, those people died four days ago.
	I mean, that would have been incessant news coverage for weeks.
	Exactly.
	It's like Hillary Clinton saying, well, what difference does it make now how the ambassador in Benghazi died?
	I mean, it's just an outrageous view of these things.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you're saying some of the hosts also were slinking off the ship?
	I thought Anderson Cooper was relatively wobbly.
	I actually early on in the 10 days, believe it or not, I there's no I wasn't hallucinating.
	I heard Don Lemon really attacked Biden for botched withdrawal.
	And my wife and I just stared at each other.
	In disbelief, but we confirmed we'd heard the same thing.
	So did Fredo a little bit.
	And what about Tapper?
	Didn't Tapper a little bit?
	Tapper's a little bit big.
	He's right.
	The CNN are the ones that are kind of a little bit on it.
	MSNBC's completely, except Morning Joe a little bit.
	Wow.
	I just think it's temporary.
	Yeah, I think that's right.
	I think I saw something in Morning Joe's where he kind of strayed off the reservation a little bit.
	But their night shows are acting like it's the best thing in the world.
	You mean the evacuations?
	Yes, the amount of people who have come out.
	Yeah, the amount of people, right.
	It's a different world.
	Oh yeah, I know.
	The night shows on MSNBC are a continuation of the Hallelujah chorus.
	This is really important.
	The Jennifer Griffin cutlet's come in with cut six.
	Cut six.
	She's been very good.
	She, I doff my cap.
	I, you know, had a couple of disagreements with her on national security issues last year, but in the last two weeks she has been sterling.
	Sterling.
	Very strong and emotional in a sensible way.
	So has Lyra Logan.
	Oh, Lyra.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	20 seconds.
	Standby.
	Coming in with cut six.
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	Yeah?
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	Yeah, I'll work on that.
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	for.
	First, let me say I was shocked that the president released a paper statement on the end of the Afghan war.
	He says he's going to speak to the nation tomorrow, but a paper statement, I find that very strange.
	I thought that the Secretary of State's statement, which was videotaped and he was looking slightly off camera, I mean, it looked like a hostage video.
	It was not the kind of production values that you would expect for such a moment in time.
	National security correspondent Jennifer Griffin, Fox News, calling the chief diplomat of America, Antony Blinken, looking like somebody in a hostage video.
	And, of course, that announcement yesterday, that surreal announcement that the war in Afghanistan is over simply because we left the battlefield, being announced in a paper statement.
	I have to give you breaking news, amazing, amazing, just sent to me from Jenna Ellis, President Trump's former attorney.
	A settlement has been arrived at.
	Pastor MacArthur of Grace Community Church has won in California.
	Their First Amendment rights have been secured and they have won $800,000 from the state of California to keep their churches open.
	God bless Jenna Ellis and Pastor John MacArthur.
	A small but significant victory for the First Amendment.
	We are back with Lord Conrad Black.
	He is the author of several presidential biographies.
	You need to read them.
	That's why I'm going to ask the next question.
	Having written about Nixon, who had to leave office.
	Having written about my former boss, President Trump, who was impeached twice.
	At what point does an incumbent become truly vulnerable?
	Because at the moment it seems as if you talked about the legacy media counting its future, who to put its money on.
	But the Democrats are tight.
	Nobody is breaking rank in the Democrats.
	And Nancy Pelosi called the decision to leave Kabul.
	She said she's proud of Biden's decision to do so.
	So is there a magic formula at which point a president's position is indefensible?
	There is, and he certainly is nowhere near it at the moment.
	But you're right, of course, that the Democrats haven't Broken ranks, the way the Republicans did with Nixon.
	But they aren't saying anything.
	Pelosi made those remarks that you quoted early on.
	Correct.
	And she's been relatively quiet by her standards since then.
	But the great caucus of the Democratic senators and congressmen and their leading governors have not said anything.
	They haven't criticized the president, but they're not Rushing to the television camera supporting him, either.
	And so, you know, they're kind of sitting on the fence.
	And when your own party's sitting on the fence, you know that things are wobbly.
	But look, I think it would be hard and, as a constitutional matter, probably almost impossible to impeach, successfully impeach, a president in his role as commander-in-chief for botching a military operation.
	That isn't a crime.
	We're entitled to make mistakes.
	It was a terrible mistake, but the Constitution of the United States does not identify an honest mistake as a reason to impeach somebody.
	What about leaving $83 billion worth of armaments for our enemies?
	Could that be an impeachable offence?
	It's negligence, but I think you'd have a problem calling it a crime, and especially once he started in claiming that he was following the advice of generals.
	I think you might I think we'll get, ultimately, a number of people walking the plank here, both in uniform and out, and then the president will essentially use them as scapegoats.
	I mean, he says the buck stops here, but take a line from Greg Gutfeld that I got last night.
	I'm not going to do this right.
	It was something like, The buck stops there in the same way it does in a sex party of deers, meaning the buck gets all around.
	I thought it was a funny line, even if I can't quote it properly.
	But as you said at the outset, he accepts responsibility and then blames everyone else.
	Yes.
	But I think where we could get more problems is obviously if If there were indictments in the Hunter Biden claim, then I think you might be getting into an area where The party elders, the parties, the powers that be in the Democratic Party could say to them, you know, really, you know, you'd better, you'd better go.
	If you go, we'll, you know, we'll, it'll be fine.
	No one will bother you.
	You could claim that your health is breaking down and, you know, God bless you and goodbye.
	Something like that might happen if things continue to break badly for them in different areas.
	I thank you for raising, I guess, thank you for raising the topic of Hunter Biden.
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	Lord Black, Talk to us about the perspective of turning an administration or a nation's renommée around.
	We mustn't lose hope because after Carter, Iran, OPEC, we had the turnaround of President Reagan after Obama, likewise with Donald Trump.
	So now is not the time to say that dark days ahead for America forever, correct?
	Absolutely.
	It is fundamentally a very strong country.
	But what you have now, as I see it, is, and you tell me that you disagree with it, but the Democrats are at the moment essentially a coalition, a very uneasy, informal coalition of outright socialists trying to make an across-the-board lurch to the left, of people, both African-Americans and white Americans,
	We lost you there for a second.
	The original sin of what, Lord Black?
	Slavery.
	We lost you there for a second.
	The original sin of what, Lord Black?
	Slavery.
	Now, you know, President Lincoln's Civil War was the punishment for that.
	But it's just great black and white trying to...
	Oh, lost him there.
	Lost him there.
	Yes, it is a very, very strange concatenation and alliance of very disparate groups, including radicals and self-haters, which means what?
	It's not very stable.
	And as such, something like the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, the surrender of all that equipment and the strengthening of our enemies could be The catalyst that creates some fatal divisions amongst that current alliance.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
	His books are A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Champion of Freedom, and his autobiography, A Matter of Principle.
	And of course, he has a fabulous podcast with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett, Scholars and Sense.
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	on jihadis, al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, and what it means for you.
	This light by call will be charged as per your international plan.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, hang on.
	Okay.
	I'm gonna bring him up.
	Okay.
	Uh, what's the name of the Al-Qaeda guy, Eric?
	Um, let me find that article.
	But you've got the buffer, right?
	I got the picture.
	I don't have his name.
	Let me find it.
	You gotta have it.
	Let me find it real quick.
	Is that Mr. Roggio?
	Yes, sir.
	Am I in trouble with your wife or are you in trouble with your wife?
	Nope, not anymore.
	All is well.
	Good, good, good.
	Extra hour counted.
	I really appreciate you doing this.
	All right.
	So, we're going to ask you... Oh, here we go.
	Sorry.
	One second.
	Conrad?
	Yes?
	We just lost you. - Sure, yeah, sign if you sign if you can.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Is this your cell phone?
	Yes.
	Are you in a hotel?
	Can we call a landline?
	I do not have a landline.
	I'm in a rental home that doesn't have a landline.
	Oh, okay.
	Just hold the phone like an extra inch away from your mouth.
	Okay.
	Keep talking.
	Yep, is that any better?
	Good, perfect.
	Alright, good.
	Okay, good.
	What should I mention?
	Anything else I should mention?
	What did you want to go over?
	I mean, he just gave a talk that was garbage.
	That was insane garbage.
	What do you want to go through?
	Do you want to go through the Al Qaeda stuff?
	Well, we'll go through the news that you posted, that, and then we'll talk about, you know, what does this mean for the global jihadi brand and, you know, the difference between Taliban, ISIS, and everything else.
	Let's just paint a picture, okay?
	Yeah, so he said in his speech that Al-Qaeda is decimated, which is, like, that probably- Let's start with that, good.
	Alright, stand by, 50 seconds.
	Leave with that, and I can go- Perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect.
	Stand by.
	Real quick.
	Yes.
	Boom, on the screen.
	Yep, bring that up when he mentions it, okay?
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	Not sure how you pronounce it, but that is what- I'll huck, easy.
	I mean, I'll huck.
	Alright, stand by.
	All right, 39 seconds.
	All right, and we're doing a relief factor here.
	Okay, yes.
	All right, stand by.
	Standing by.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Amen.
	Well we just heard the man who calls himself the president blame everybody except himself and say it's time to focus on threats here in America and Al-Qaeda is decimated.
	When I heard what was happening in Kabul and What to expect from the current incumbent.
	I thought there's one guy I need to talk to.
	Sadly more relevant than ever when the Obama administration wanted to know what's going on with the jihadi international movement.
	They didn't ask the intelligence community.
	They would steal unclassified information from something called the Long War Journal, established by Bill Roggio, senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
	I want to start with the bottom of his resume, because he left it at the end of it, and it should be the first.
	He has served this nation as an as an infantryman, as a signalman with the U.S. Army and the New Jersey National Guard, embedded with the Marine Corps and the Army in Iraq and with the Canadians in Afghanistan.
	Bill, welcome to America First and our millions of listeners across the nation.
	Thanks, Seth.
	It's a pleasure to join you.
	All right, thank you for making time today.
	Everybody needs to check out the Long War Journal.
	Just your initial reaction to what you heard from the man who sadly bears the title Commander-in-Chief.
	Yeah, this speech was just a rehash of all the excuses that he gave for the failure in Afghanistan.
	The President is just, he was hell-bent on getting out and he was Willing to do so at any cost.
	The cost came, of course, to American citizens who remain trapped in Afghanistan.
	Helping an effort to try to get some of them out.
	This is disgraceful that a group of private citizens should be trying to do this when our own government won't do this.
	Yeah, it's frustrating watching this.
	I really, literally am forced to watch these press conferences.
	Um, just, you know, and one of the big lies that sticks out to me is this comment about Al Qaeda being decimated.
	This is something that I've covered for years.
	This is a lie that's been told by three successful presidents in order to justify their policy of withdrawal.
	President Obama said it, President Trump said it, and now President Biden has said it.
	They've used decimated, defeated, degraded, diminished, done, all other, there's, you've got a D word.
	They used it.
	Um, and this is, and now what we're going to have is, uh, it's not a resurgence because Al Qaeda has always been there.
	So just tell us, just to address, you are the guy that tracks this stuff.
	What is the state of Al Qaeda today?
	Yeah, and yes, and this is something.
	When the Obama administration was saying 50 to 100 Al-Qaeda for six years, they were wrong.
	And it was proven when we raided an Al-Qaeda camp in southeastern Afghanistan.
	It was 150 fighters.
	They upped the estimate to 200 to 300.
	Now the U.N.
	says 500.
	These numbers are just low.
	Al-Qaeda has played a significant role, most recently, in the Taliban's offensive.
	to take over Afghanistan.
	I've tracked this closely.
	Their hand is while hidden.
	We are able to see it.
	They admitted on themselves.
	They just released a statement crowing about the Taliban's victory and thanking them.
	And we've even seen a senior al Qaeda leader.
	His name is Dr. Amin al Haq.
	He was Osama bin Laden's head of his bodyguard, it was called the Black Guard, at the Battle of Tora Bora, he helped-- kept in love and safe, and other senior al-Qaeda leaders shot him across the border.
	20 years later, he returned triumphantly into his home in Nangarhar province with a Taliban escort.
	So hang on.
	This is why I reached out today.
	So you posted a video.
	I've got to reiterate this for all of our listeners and viewers.
	As the president is saying, Al-Qaeda is decimated.
	Osama bin Laden's head of security is returning to his homeland with a Taliban escort as a hero.
	Did I hear you correctly, Bill?
	I was 100% right.
	If you watch the video, he rolls down his window, signs some autographs, takes selfies with them.
	He's an absolute hero to elements within the Taliban.
	And that escort, that armed Taliban escort flying the Taliban flag, Joe, this guy clearly is a hero to the Taliban.
	He's just but one.
	When they broke the prisons open, they didn't just let Islamic State fighters out.
	They let numerous al-Qaeda, not just low-level fighters, not just their foot soldiers, of which there's many in Afghanistan, but they let some senior al-Qaeda leaders, a guy named Abu Ikhlas al-Masri and several other nasty individuals a guy named Abu Ikhlas al-Masri and several other nasty individuals who are key elements of the al-Qaeda
	We are showing, for those who are listening on radio, we are showing the video right now of this man returning with a Taliban escort as a hero, former head of security for bin Laden.
	This is how much they are gaslighting you.
	He is the editor of the Long War Journal.
	Go there today.
	Longwarjournal.org.
	Bill Roggio.
	Stay with us.
	We're going to talk about ISIS, ISIS-K, Taliban and al-Qaeda because sadly We have to.
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	We are back with the editor of a superlative publication, the Long War Journal.
	LongWarJournal.org.
	Bill Roggio, Army veteran, National Guard veteran.
	He's been to Afghanistan.
	He's been to Iraq.
	And he's telling us what we need to know about the recent withdrawal from Kabul.
	In May—he just sent me the article—in May, he predicted what the Taliban would do.
	Bill, help our millions of listeners who now have to prepare for the 20th anniversary of September the 11th.
	You've discussed the Taliban.
	You've discussed al-Qaeda.
	Where does ISIS fit into this constellation of jihadi organizations, and especially ISIS-K, who allegedly were behind the murder of our Marines, corpsmen, and that Army staff sergeant?
	Sure.
	The Islamic State and Al Qaeda, of course.
	So Al Qaeda and the Taliban and a host of jihadist groups are in one camp.
	The Islamic State is the bastard child of Al Qaeda.
	They share the same ideology to restore the caliphate.
	So it's like the Leninists versus the Trotskyites?
	state.
	They just have different ways of doing it.
	The Islamic State's way is basically my way or the highway.
	They want to declare the caliphate now and go for it.
	Al Qaeda's way is, look, we build our emirates.
	We do this carefully.
	We don't declare an emirate until we can protect it.
	We build our state.
	So it's like the Leninists versus the Trotskyites.
	Yeah, it's the perfect analogy.
	So that's what we have.
	The Islamic State in Afghanistan is in opposition to the Taliban because it's opposed to the Taliban's primacy of jihad.
	However, there are reports, and some of this comes from the United Nations, and I'm not going to be very clear.
	I'm not saying this attack or those attacks happened recently in Kabul are related to this, however I suspect they were.
	The United Nations has reported that the Islamic State, which has been largely defeated by the Taliban, it's now just operating in a cellular movement.
	It's a small, controlled, small patch of territory.
	There's reports that the Houthi network, which is a part of the powerful group within the Taliban, uses Islamic State sometimes to carry out attacks.
	Okay, hang on, hang on, this is getting deep dive, so let's just reiterate.
	ISIS, I love that phrase, bastard child of Al-Qaeda, wants the caliphate, wants the world revolution now, like Trotsky did for the communists.
	ISIS-Khorasan, ISIS in Afghanistan, is small, they're weak.
	But there are elements in the Taliban, like the Haqqanis, that use or exploit ISIS as some kind of cut-out for their own personal agenda.
	Is that a good summary?
	Yes.
	They get all the benefits of horrific attacks, like the attack that killed the Marines.
	Okay.
	without having to take responsibility for it.
	That's essentially how the Taliban uses the conscience.
	Again, we don't have evidence of this happening with the Marines.
	How do you get a suicide bomber through people who know suicide bombers?
	How do you get mortars and rockets?
	Right.
	You know, so.
	So here's the next question.
	Follow this man at Bill Roggio.
	That's R-O-G-G-I-O on Twitter.
	At Bill Roggio.
	R-O-G-G-I-O.
	And go to the longwalljournal.org.
	Your reaction?
	To Chief Diplomats like Blinken, to Jake Sullivan, National Security Advisor, to Nick Carter, the Chief of the Defence Staff in the UK saying, this is a different Taliban, they're going to be quote-unquote, and I'm not joking here guys, inclusive, and they're finding their way in the international community.
	Your reaction, Bill Roggio?
	Oh, it's a different Taliban.
	It's just not the Taliban they think it is.
	It's a Taliban with American weapons.
	It's a Taliban that has a sophisticated media strategy that convinces people, like Blinken and others, that maybe it might have moderated.
	It uses diplomacy.
	It balloted out the U.S.
	to leave.
	President Trump opened the diplomatic efforts, and Biden used it as an excuse to leave.
	This Taliban is definitely different, but it's not for the better.
	All of the old Taliban parts, what we're seeing in Kabul is only a fraction of it.
	What's happening in the provinces, from what I'm hearing, is the Taliban are rampaging.
	They're executing people.
	They're rounding up soldiers.
	Women are back in the burqas.
	Burqa sales have skyrocketed, even in Kabul.
	The Afghans know what's coming here.
	The Taliban is not different.
	This is an excuse that was used to withdraw to abandon American citizens, and it's going to be an excuse to probably fund the Taliban in order, in a way, to pay a ransom to help get the Americans that are currently there out.
	Just this little piece of tactical intelligence.
	That's why Bill and the Longwall Journal are so important.
	The burqa sales are exploding in Kabul.
	Why?
	Because the women are afraid.
	Did you hear that, Blinken?
	Did you hear that, Sullivan?
	Did you hear that, Biden?
	Of course you didn't, because you don't want the truth.
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	Seriously.
	We've got to do a one-on-one with him on Skype.
	He was really good, yeah.
	Jeff?
	Okay.
	With Bill?
	That's a guy who knows what he's talking about.
	Yeah, I've known him for like 12 years.
	He's a good guy.
	Good guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Where's he from?
	Is he from South Jersey?
	Are you wondering my pillow here as well?
	Oh, and let's dope up.
	Let's get a buffer, Eric, that whenever I do the reminder in 2E, let's have a cool image of one-on-one.
	Like the logo or the... Logo and maybe some guests or something.
	I'll ask John.
	Yeah, talk to John.
	So many cuts I haven't used!
	Oh, coming with cut five.
	All right, cut five.
	Cut five.
	Where was that?
	That was Hannity?
	Stuart Varney.
	Oh, that was this morning, right?
	Yeah.
	Varney's put on weight.
	Have you seen him?
	No.
	COVID diet, dude.
	Come on, get in the gym, Stuart.
	Get in the gym.
	All right.
	Coming in with cut five.
	Oh, Roggio is, what is the truth about ISIS-K?
	The truth about ISIS-K.
	Copy that.
	Coming in with cut five.
	Alright, 10 seconds.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	We cannot let them have that equipment.
	That's the finest equipment made.
	That's better than what the American soldiers have.
	And they're now walking all over the streets with it.
	That was a horrible thing.
	The people and the equipment, both of them should have been brought out, and they weren't.
	And under my plan, under no circumstances—and literally, I use the expression, I want every nail and I want every screw brought out.
	That was President Trump, every nail and every screw, not leaving $83 billion worth of the best equipment for our enemies to use.
	Third hour, we're going to talk about the truth for the President's withdrawal plan.
	President Trump's plan with a man who wrote it!
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	Somebody has been waiting so very long.
	Good friend of the show.
	Victor Silver Spring.
	Thank you for your patience.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	I got to verify the caller from Philadelphia.
	Scott, I got the same recording and I dialed both numbers.
	Oh, so you called the White House and they said, sorry, we only work 11 to 3.
	Exactly!
	Unbelievable!
	I'm verifying what Scott heard.
	We appreciate it.
	We appreciate it, Victor.
	Tomorrow, let's flood the lines.
	My friend is trying to get 82 Americans out of Afghanistan.
	They're stranded because the State Department is refusing to allow our partner nations to let those planes land.
	Let's listen to what we have in store for you in the third hour.
	Kash Patel talking about his Look, we had a conditions-based withdrawal under President Trump that exacted a number of promises out of the Taliban and the Afghan government.
	Namely, a total rejection and repudiation of Al Qaeda.
	And if any American interest were harmed or Americans were hurt, Then President Trump ordered the Department of Defense to annihilate them in its totality.
	We had other things about our counterterrorism programs and our special forces that we were going to leave in.
	We were not going to take out our Bagram, our command and control element.
	And we were also going to do a TikTok approach.
	Basically, when conditions were met and as they were being met, we would then progress through a withdrawal.
	And the one thing everyone's not talking about now is the difference between a withdrawal and an evacuation.
	Under President Biden, this has become an evacuation because they failed to plan and lead in the theater of war and safeguard our American interests.
	This has become an evacuation because they're reacting at the last minute.
	That is the difference between a conditions-based withdrawal and an evacuation.
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	The End It couldn't be a more timely guest for us given the events of the last 14 days in Central Asia.
	An individual who, let's just say he's unusual.
	He thinks it's fun to fight swamp creatures.
	Therefore, we're trying to work out how to clone him.
	I've been writing down his recent resume of just the last year.
	It's quite absurd.
	Not only a deputy director for the national, the director of national intelligence, not only a senior director for counterterrorism in the Trump White House, he ended up as the chief of staff for the Pentagon.
	He's Cash Patel.
	Cash, welcome to One on One.
	Sam, it's mighty good to be here with you on America's First.
	I'm really happy we can make this.
	Alright, we do something a little bit different here on One on One.
	We have time uninterrupted to just talk.
	I know, it's shocking, it's shocking.
	I'm floored.
	I know, I know.
	Hey, solve Afghanistan in 180 seconds.
	Go!
	You like that?
	You like that TV interview?
	Oh man, those are brutal.
	Yeah, I know.
	You know them too well.
	Pretty pointless, pretty pointless.
	Here we can go deep dive at least for about an hour.
	But first things first, for those who haven't heard you on the show before or who just tuned into this podcast, somebody just shared the link with them, tell us your very cool, very American story, where you came from, where your family came from, and how you ended up as, you know, running the Pentagon, basically.
	Well, I appreciate that, and I do appreciate this longer format.
	So, looks, I have a son of immigrants, first-generation American, my father was born and raised in Uganda, fled under Idi Amin, the Hitler of Africa, and, you know, like, like, you are living proof of the immigrant story, you know, as am I. Like, you can come to this country, and you can work in the White House.
	This is the stunning thing.
	People are like, I'm sorry, you have the wrong accent in England.
	You can kiss working in the, you know, the 10 Downing Street goodbye.
	If you didn't go to the right schools in France, the idea that you end up in the Elysee, not happening.
	Here, it truly is the land of opportunity.
	Tell us a little bit about your parents, because they're not from Africa originally, but what's your background?
	So my mom was born and raised in Tanzania.
	We're Indian, Indian-American.
	Basically, in the 20s, 1920s or so, the Brits were building railroads throughout Africa and a large portion of the Indian population moved to East Africa to build railroads for the British.
	My great-great-grandparents were part of that movement.
	And as you know, in India now, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, large Indian populations.
	Once Idi Amin came to power, the decision was you couldn't stay because he was killing everybody.
	Well, not only that, he expressly targeted the Indians.
	There was a point when he took over, the economy tanked, and he said, oh, scapegoat!
	That's handy.
	And the actual government policy was to target the people who were making the economy run.
	Exactly.
	And he drove him out or killed him, you know, tragically.
	And my father fled to first Canada and then, like a respectable human being, waited in line to get to America legally and took him a few years to do it.
	He didn't have any money.
	He flew to Canada with no suitcase, no clothes, no money in the middle of a winter that he had never seen or heard of.
	But he fought through it.
	So it just shows you you're an immigrant.
	I'm an immigrant.
	Yeah, I paid my money.
	I did my test, got my green card.
	What an idiot, right?
	But it's the way to do it, and it shows you it can be done.
	So I appreciate you letting me talk a little bit about my past.
	And then I started my career in services, and this might shock you, as a public defender in Miami.
	And I did that for a number of years, trying a lot of cases.
	It gave me the investigative chops I needed.
	I didn't know I was going to use later, but it definitely helped me out later, trying crazy narco-trafficking cases, murder cases, bank robbery cases all over the world.
	So how do you end up in the swamp?
	So after about eight years being a public defender, both at the state and federal level, I got an opportunity to become a terrorism prosecutor for DOJ and national security.
	I mean, who's not interested in national security?
	It was not part of the plan.
	I had no idea what I was doing in terms of planning out my career path.
	And when that opportunity came up, I seized it.
	I was actually brought in under the Obama administration to be a terrorism prosecutor.
	And look, I tried cases all over the world.
	I did the World Cup bombings in East Africa.
	I actually went back to East Africa, which is kind of cool.
	Yeah.
	In Uganda, my father's place of birth, and prosecuted their first terrorism case in their country's history that killed 74 people, including an American citizen.
	So if they can do it right, we can prosecute terrorists at home, which is what we were doing.
	And then I did my first tour at JSOC as a targeter thereafter.
	That's unusual to go from the legal side of it to the targeting.
	Yeah, it was a cool...
	Unique situation where DOJ had a seat available as TDY and they let me combine the legal prospect of it with targeting with our Tier 1 guys and sort of did it at a fusion set.
	So just to explain, these are the people who identify and help locate the bad guys to be whacked by the Joint Special Operations Command.
	So this is making sure you have the right target in the crosshairs.
	And as you know, as your time with JSOC and the like, when you get A peek behind the curtain.
	It's kind of addictive.
	It's addictive.
	And you're like, wow, this is how an apolitical military is supposed to work.
	You know, the mission is... Threats, missions.
	That's it.
	Protect the homeland.
	So, you know, we did that.
	And then I was trying to get to the Trump White House and get on the NSC when he initially got elected because I was back at DOJ by then.
	Long story short, I ended up meeting Devin Nunes, trying to help a friend get a job in the Trump administration.
	Didn't know Devin before that.
	Oh, wow.
	And Russiagate sort of was going on, and this was very end of 2016.
	It was starting to piece together.
	And he asked me if I would, being an investigator and the defender side of things, being a prosecutor, being in Intel space with JSOC, Would you be willing to come over and run this investigation?
	At the time, both he and I thought, nobody's going to pay attention to this thing.
	It's going to be a pamphlet we put on the shelf and then I'll go to the administration.
	And then, well, we were wrong.
	And what was your, we'll talk about the great movie by our friend Amanda Milius, the documentary of the film, the book, The Plot Against the President.
	But you share in that interview there your condition to Devin.
	And what was your condition to Devin?
	Yeah, I said, no matter what we find, we're putting it out.
	Right.
	You've got to run it down, wherever it leads.
	Whatever it is.
	I said, listen, I don't know President Trump.
	Never met the man.
	Never talked to anyone in his inner circle.
	And if it turns out that it was a rigged election, America needs to know.
	But if it turns out that there was something else, America needs to know that too.
	And Devin was like, no problem.
	We're putting everything out.
	Okay, we're going to talk about all of that, that incredible experience of the last four years.
	We're going to talk about the amazing new things you are doing by yourself with your new organization, also with The Epic Times.
	But first things first, let's just go straight in.
	The Deep State, does it exist?
	Is it real?
	Cash Patel?
	Sam, I think you know as well as I do, unfortunately, it is.
	And I wish you and I were wrong.
	And I wish people would prove us wrong.
	But unfortunately, we kept proving the deep staters right.
	Russiagate was just a piece of it.
	You can talk about the Ukraine impeachment hoax.
	You can talk about whatever you like during the Trump administration.
	When you were in the Oval Office advising the president, you saw it.
	You fought through it.
	It's there, unfortunately, just because some people in service thought that they had a right to overcome the commander-in-chief.
	And how serious a threat is it to just the way the republic is run, irrespective of political parties, how serious a threat is the existence of that permanent unaccountable class?
	It's totally destructive, and let me just talk about it from a national security perspective.
	You know, when you have folks, when you have crooks like James Comey, Andy McCabe, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, America depends on the Department of Justice and FBI to prosecute criminals and put them away.
	But who's prosecuting them when they break their trust and their duty?
	And that was, if you recall, when we first started saying those folks were doing X, Y, and Z, man, people thought Devin and I were just... Lying to the American people to their face, and nothing's gonna happen to us.
	The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread, and the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to scum!
	Russian scum!
	That's just the trailer.
	You've got to see it.
	P-A-T-P-Movie.com.
	Read the original book by our good friend and guest, Ali Smith.
	It's the plot against the present movie, the most successful modern documentary ever.
	There's a reason, because it's true.
	P-A-T-P-Movie.com.
	One of the stars of the show is our guest here on 101, Kash Patel.
	It's hard to even mention this story because it's so multi-faceted and multi-layered.
	You're talking about the Russia collusion.
	You're talking about Christopher Seale.
	You're talking about fusion GPS.
	Then there's the whole unmaskings.
	Then there's the leaking to the media of classified information.
	There's just so many aspects.
	We could spend hours.
	For me, the biggest one we don't talk about enough is the unmaskings one.
	But I want to give you the opportunity as a person who's in the eye of the hurricane Who was unveiling, investigating the truth of the Russia hoax.
	Could you explain to our millions of listeners and viewers that, what do we say in DC?
	The elevator pitch.
	What really happened?
	If you're not involved in politics, if you've never had a TS, top secret clearance, what do you need to know as an American about the last four years?
	So that's a great way to put it, but let me do it this way if I might.
	Let me give you a fiction and let's talk about a reality thereafter.
	What if the United States of America in 2016 was undergoing a presidential election and the Republican Party, the second largest or first largest party in the United States, Was mounting an international intelligence campaign by paying foreign intelligence agents millions of dollars to dig up false dirt on a Democratic presidential nominee.
	Would you watch that movie just on that trailer?
	Yeah.
	Maybe, but let's keep going.
	What if that money was then funneled into the government by the same Democratic committee through law firms so they would hide their transactions?
	Fast forward some more.
	What if you fudged intelligence?
	What if you made up information about the Democratic candidate?
	Remember, this was a fiction if the Republicans were doing it.
	Made up that fiction and then said, we're going to a court, a federal court.
	Forget what kind of court.
	We're going to a federal court.
	We're going to wiretap the Democratic nominee for president in 2016 because we think, based on the fraudulent intelligence we've shoved down a court, we can get a warrant to surveil not just the candidate, but everybody around him.
	Would you watch that movie?
	And also, would anyone ever believe you that that actually could happen in 2016 in the U.S.
	of A?
	That's the fiction.
	All you got to do is switch the Democrat and Republican roles.
	And that is the Russian narrative.
	OK, so I'm going to jump straight to it.
	You've got to read the book Plot Against the President.
	You've got to watch the movie with Cash and by Amanda Milius.
	I've got high blood pressure, so I've got to be careful here.
	The fact that you proved what you proved, that there was Russian propaganda material paid for by the DNC, Hillary's campaign, the FBI, used to besmirch a campaign, used to obtain FISA secret surveillance warrants against used to obtain FISA secret surveillance warrants against that campaign, was used by the media to tar literally, in the words of John Brennan, an elected president as a Russian asset who is a traitor.
	The fact that one junior lawyer got a suspended sentence document from the CIA to acquire a FISA warrant.
	If I had done that, I would be in prison.
	You'd still be there.
	I'd still be there.
	So the idea that the people who joked about it, James Coney jokes about, hey, I wouldn't have got away with it in another administration, but I just sent my agents there to frame Mike Flynn.
	And the audience laughs.
	What does it mean?
	What does it mean to you, as an American, that not one person who made the actual decisions, not the peons, has paid a price in the courts of America?
	Yeah, I think I'm with you on the blood boiling, you know, because as a federal public defender and a federal prosecutor, you know, your job is to account for those who break the law.
	But whose job is it to account for the prosecutors and the agents when they lie to a court?
	Because when you have that role, you have a privilege to serve the American people.
	When you break that privilege, that's what frustrates me the most.
	It's why I left the Department of Justice, because I was one of the lead prosecutors for Benghazi.
	And the internal accountability, or actually the lack thereof during that investigation, ruined one of the biggest counterterrorism investigations in modern history.
	Is it the most, I haven't, I've served in D.O.D.
	for six years in the White House, but for me the most corrupt agency or department is the D.O.J.
	Is that possible?
	I think if you look at the people, and not the large D.O.J.
	that I got to serve in under three attorneys general.
	Most, 99% of those people, great.
	Really good people.
	But, when you have the heads, like the FBI, like James Comey, and these people work for the DOJ, and the Deputy Director, and Andy McCabe, and Brennan of CIA, and these, the heads of these agencies get together to take down a president.
	And then as you said, what ticked me off even more was, as a former terrorism prosecutor, I did FISA warrants.
	They serve a purpose.
	There's a reason that it goes through literally 150 people before you even walk it into court, because it has to be so correct.
	It cannot have one mistake, otherwise the court will rightfully reject it.
	And more importantly, when you're signing off on the warrants, when you, the Director of the FBI, is signing that warrant, when you, the Attorney General, is signing that warrant, you're saying to the court, we as court officers are certifying everything in this warrant is true, Given how the fighter system that is used to surveil Americans here in America was perverted, can it survive?
	evidence like they did, like the James Comeys and Andy McCabe's of the world in this Department of Justice did to President Trump's campaign under the Carter Page warrant.
	And it's still not all out there.
	Given how the FISA system that is used to surveil Americans here in America was perverted, can it survive?
	Should it survive?
	It can survive with a massive overhaul.
	And we, in our Russia report that I know you read and millions of your viewers read, we told the US how to revamp the FIS, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
	You need things like a neutral party ombudsman speaking for the target of the application, especially when they're an American citizen, because they're not there on court.
	They have no idea what's going on.
	It's a secret court.
	So there needs to be a neutral detached party outside the DOJ and FBI in that room.
	That's just one measure to do it.
	The court, the judges themselves, and here's something that didn't get any, you know, too much attention.
	We wrote to the judges, classified letters to the judges, Devin and I, when we were running the investigation.
	And we said, look, we are finding inconsistencies.
	We are finding problems with this search warrant.
	Here is the evidence that you saw.
	That we saw, and here is where we think there was malfeasance, and the court just gave us the Heisman and literally told us there's no possible way we could get this right.
	And you know this.
	Who's more powerful than a federal judge?
	Literally no one.
	And what does a federal judge hate more than anything in the world?
	Being reversed.
	So these federal judges thought, there's no way these yahoos on the Hill can't get this right, just punted.
	And of course they had their friend and one of the biggest crooks of all, Rod Rosenstein.
	I'm going to go through all of these names momentarily.
	We're going to get the inside baseball from Kash Patel.
	Another great patriot who's fighting for the truth is, of course, our good friend, the mayor of New York, formerly.
	America's Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, they're trying to destroy him, crush him, strip him of his law license and bankrupt him.
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	Cash, you kind of preempted me there.
	I'm making a list of names here.
	Where is the center of gravity?
	When you look at war, you try to identify the enemy's center of gravity.
	You can do the same with anything.
	Let's talk about corruption.
	Where is the center of gravity for the Russia collusion corruption?
	We've got Brennan at the CIA, Comey at FBI.
	We've got Bruce Ohr, Andy McCabe, Rosenstein, on and on and on.
	Who are the people whose corruption we do not understand well enough?
	I think that list of characters, and maybe one or two other, like the Lisa Pages of the World FBI, the Peter Strzok who ran the counterintelligence investigation, who ran the Hillary Clinton email investigation, if you remember that ordeal as well.
	So the same cast of characters.
	And what America doesn't realize is the rest of what Devin and I wanted to declassify and put out.
	Yeah, and we were hoping that we would be able to do that, but we got shut down by Rod Rosenstein and the Department of Justice.
	During the Trump administration?
	During the Trump administration, after we fired James Comey.
	So that, you want to talk about a deep state, circling back to your point earlier, these are guys that President Trump put in power, and these same guys would not let us Have the accountability American people deserve.
	And accountability comes in two forms.
	As you said, declassifying this information so you can just read it for yourself instead of listening to me and you yammer on about it.
	That's the best way.
	Read the page and you'll know.
	The other piece is, who's arresting these guys for their violations of law?
	Now, I know we can get into the Durham stuff, you know, and true accountability.
	Does Durham exist?
	Because I'm kind of like, who cares at this point?
	You know.
	I mean, there's nothing to be had from this, is there?
	I don't know, I don't have an inside scoop.
	But really, after the last four years?
	You know, let me go back to one thing you did say, and I never actually answered your question.
	Yeah, one mid-level FBI attorney gets prosecuted?
	No.
	Seb, you know more than anyone, you can't run this scheme and perpetrate this fraud without being told from the top down.
	You can't jam this FISA warrant through the fist without the directors of the FBI, Deputy Directors of the FBI, Deputy Attorney General, shoving this thing through.
	And the biggest crime is not that mistakes were made because, look, I've done these warrants.
	We make mistakes.
	They happen.
	The biggest crime is when you have a target and you know that there's information that proves his innocence and you intentionally withhold that.
	The excalcitory evidence was hidden from the court.
	And that has been proven beyond doubt.
	And that fact alone is criminal.
	And you know what they could do?
	You know what these federal judges could have done that they didn't do?
	You know.
	Contempt of court proceedings.
	When I was a federal public defender or federal prosecutor and I went up there and I said, hey judge, I intentionally withheld this exculpatory evidence from you.
	That judge would have waited a day.
	Contempt of court.
	And you know what that is?
	He sends you to prison.
	Prison.
	You go to jail.
	Rightfully so.
	So just a little, hello, you're naughty.
	You go to prison.
	Okay, so let's go back in time.
	You've done the most work.
	You're right there with Devin investigating.
	He's given you carte blanche.
	Where does it truly begin?
	Because we've got this Azra Turk.
	The FBI researcher, investigator.
	There is no such thing.
	There are SOSs, IAs and special agents.
	There's no such thing as an FBI investigator who's in a bar in London talking to George Papadopoulos.
	It's just such garbage.
	Because the trail goes all the way back there to this fictional FBI or CIA asset, I'm sure, or actual officer, does that mean Brennan is the belly button for this?
	Does it start with Brennan?
	I've met Comey.
	Comey is just an ego on legs.
	He's just a six foot seven ego, right?
	He does have a huge ego.
	John Brennan is actually a bad guy.
	I mean, he's just, just bad.
	He's a malefactor.
	So do you have a sense?
	Did you get to that point?
	Yeah.
	Where did it begin?
	You're not going to like this answer.
	So Devin and I, during the Russiagate investigation, created a separate team just to drill down on, if you remember, at the end of the Obama administration, when it broke, finally, that Trump was colluding with Russia, Brennan led the ICA, the Intelligence Community Assessment Report.
	And if you can picture this, you don't have to be in government service, but they investigated, wrote, and completed this document in two weeks.
	Two weeks!
	So Devin had the good sense to say, why don't we take a look at that document?
	So we put 2,000 man hours against that document, interviewed the people that wrote that document, and determined the credibility and whether or not there were failures.
	We have an entire report on that.
	You know what happened to that report?
	We've been asking for it to be declassified for two and a half, three years.
	And you know who stopped it?
	The FBI and the DOJ.
	And who do you think's right now?
	The guys that uncovered the Russia hoax on this ICA?
	Or these people in the deep state?
	Do you think they're actually right?
	They're saying Devin and Cash again made up this ridiculous scheme?
	Why would they be hiding it?
	So that, your answer, and I can't speak to it because I don't want to go to jail, your answer's in that document and America should absolutely have access to that document.
	It's a 17 page report.
	You're right.
	I don't like that answer.
	But it's fair.
	I'll talk to you.
	We'll find a skiff.
	We'll go off.
	I still have my top secret clearance.
	We'll go off and have a chat sometime.
	He's Kash Patel.
	The book is The Plot Against the President.
	He's the star of the movie The Plot Against the President by our good friend Amanda Milius, PATPMovie.com.
	Check it out.
	Okay.
	Let's talk about the future.
	Let's talk about Let's talk about what you've lived through.
	Let's talk about what I've lived through.
	As the child of people who suffered under fascist occupation, who were persecuted under communist dictatorship, my father arrested, tortured and imprisoned by a communist regime, I thought I had the requisite cynicism tortured and imprisoned by a communist regime, I thought I had the requisite cynicism to work in the swamp and to become a deputy assistant And I, you know, I was wrong.
	I was wrong.
	Because I was prepared for the attacks on me.
	And I get it.
	I'm a proxy for the president.
	I'm representing his immigration policies and national security.
	But when they attack not only me, but my wife, and they attack my 18-year-old son in the media as journalists, and he's still in high school, then you realize Yeah, we have a conscious decision by an amorphous entity.
	It's like the Borg.
	It's the Democrat Party, it's political appointees, it is the media, it is the think tanks, and it is the politics of personal destruction.
	Nothing is on the merits.
	They will never debate the policies.
	When people tell me, why don't you get Pelosi on your show?
	Seriously?
	Why would I debate an oxygen thief?
	There's no merit-based discussion to be had.
	It is about destroying the other.
	So let's look forward.
	I saw the president recently.
	He was on the show last week.
	He is running.
	I know it.
	And if we can stop the election fraud, he will win.
	What do we do with getting good people like yourself in government?
	Because I'm prepared to go back because my skin is now half a yard thick.
	But I think that it's not just attacking people like you, me or Devin.
	This is a policy to make sure nobody volunteers to work in government.
	Yeah.
	Is that an issue?
	Well, that's what they're doing.
	You know, you're right.
	You know, what you endured, what your family endured just to get here and achieve the American dream is one thing, and people should be talking about that, not talking about the made-up stories that the left-wing media wants to inflict on you so to shut you up.
	And I went through that, and you went through that, and, you know, we can talk about that over a beer sometime.
	You know, we didn't care.
	You took it on the chin.
	Devin took it on the chin.
	I took it on the chin.
	Because the mission mattered more.
	That's the only thing we cared about.
	And you need the right personnel to execute your mission.
	And what I would say to President Trump, and I know you have, and many others have, is, you know, come 2024, if he runs and hopefully wins, He needs to have more of the people around, not the deep staters that they relied on, who hated his administration and him, and who could not put that hatred aside.
	Look, I served under Obama.
	Whether I agreed with his policies or not, I got my marching orders from the Commander-in-Chief in the Department of Justice, and I went on.
	You did it too.
	You served under multiple administrations.
	You didn't go out into the public and leak classified information.
	You didn't go out into the public and attack People's families falsely.
	I, I was called a genocidal dictator by the media, if you can believe it.
	Well, I never got that.
	Yeah, I got Nazi white supremacist.
	Genocidal dictator.
	Congratulations.
	I mean, it's kind of rich in irony when you think that my father actually fled a genocidal dictator.
	To come to this country and live the dream.
	And these people don't understand what they're doing.
	So you have to have the personnel.
	Look, I think we exist.
	I think there are a lot of Seb Gorkas out there that want to work in the administration.
	We have to do a better job of finding them with the background.
	I think that's where we did not spend enough time looking for us, looking for more of us.
	We're out there because you go to a rally or you go to an event, you're getting swamped.
	Yeah.
	You're getting slammed.
	Your show is being viewed by three million people.
	There's a lot of people that can do the job.
	We just have to do a better job of finding them.
	Okay, so let's say we find them.
	We've got three years.
	We train them.
	We get them prepped and they're ready to roll and, you know, our guy wins and we're back in the White House or back at the DOJ and elsewhere.
	What happens then?
	And let me share with you my experience.
	So we're in the White House.
	It's less than a weekend and the new phone book for the NSC is leaked because you know you have to new new directors therefore you have to change the phone book it's still classified blah blah blah It's it's leaked to the Washington Post before Mike Flynn has signed off on it, and I tell Mike Mike This is day seven This cannot go on.
	Get every polygrapher from the DOJ over to the EEOB executive building and polygraph every stinking member of the NSC, political or not, until you find a couple of people who fail.
	And then walk them out of the building in front of CNN cameras, because otherwise you have created a condition that will not be sustainable.
	Mike said, and I've said this publicly since then, he said, can't rock the boat, can't rock the boat.
	Eight days later, he was gone.
	So what is the plan of action to ensure that even if we have good guys who want to serve not the president, but want to serve the republic and the will of the people, that they're not Subverted by seditious Vindman's or Anonymous's writing op-eds.
	What is the mechanism?
	I thought finding leakers and having them pay a penalty would change a culture quite a bit inside the building.
	You don't have to find every seditious person.
	You just have to send a message.
	Your pension is in peril if you think that you are more important than the person elected by 74 million Americans.
	Do you have an idea, a plan, a scenario that allows us to hobble the deep state?
	So, I think you are on the right track, and I agree with it.
	You have to strike at the heart of it, and the heart of all of this, everything we're talking about is the leaks of classified information.
	A felony.
	It's a federal offense.
	Punishable by a decade in prison, if not more, depending on the severity of it.
	You have to install not just principals, but deputies and undersecretaries who are going to let you accomplish that mission, which is to find those who in government violated the law.
	I believe there's enough of a belief in America now after the last four years that they know laws were broken by those who said they were upholding the law.
	And I think if you put in the right people, if you put in the Johnny Rackless of the world and the Rick Grinnells of the world and all the people that you've been talking about to run the intelligence communities, the State Departments, the DNIs and the DOJs, you get momentum.
	You get the top cover you need to prosecute the cases that we couldn't prosecute under President Trump.
	I think that's part A. Part B, I think you have to go and set the media straight.
	And I know people think I'm crazy for trying to do that.
	But you have to call out a media when they baselessly go after Seb Gorka and his family.
	Or any American.
	John Q. Voter down in Missouri.
	They're defaming him and his family.
	They're just getting away with it because... But whose job is that?
	Well, I didn't know that it was a job.
	And then I think it's sort of become my job.
	All right, let's talk about your new organization.
	So what have you started, Cash?
	After taking the hits and the rounds continuously, and as Devin said, when you're getting shelled, you're over the target.
	And he couldn't have been more right.
	Yeah.
	And you know it.
	You've been a target.
	I've been a target.
	But there comes a certain point when your family name is attacked, not just, you know, jokingly or in some naive, stupid fashion, but when it's actually defamed, when it's actually intentionally and fraudulently put out there that you did X when you had nothing to do with X. So what am I doing?
	What did I start doing?
	You know, I took a lead from Devin.
	I said, well, I'm gonna sue Politico.
	I'm gonna sue CNN.
	I'm gonna sue New York Times.
	And I'm gonna sue them for an exact number of money that makes a difference in their bottom line.
	What is the name of that entity?
	So we're calling fightwithcash.com.
	FightWithCash.com.
	Fabulous.
	We were talking about this for years and years and years during the Trump administration.
	How do we do this?
	Is there an entity?
	Looks like Kash Patel has an entity to fight back on the lies on the propaganda.
	FightWithCash.com.
	We'll talk about what you're going to do there in a second, but let me... It kind of connects to the last question I had.
	How do we deal with the deep state?
	And it connects to your new entity.
	What about judges?
	Do we have judges who will actually have the testicular fortitude to say that man is wronged, that woman is wronged, that family has been calumniated and they must get redress?
	You are a former defense attorney.
	You're a former targeter.
	You know the legal system.
	How weak is it?
	Is it up to that task, if you bring the cases?
	I think it can be.
	I think we've done a good job over the last four years, if nothing else, to show all these naysayers in the media and in the public that you guys were wrong for buying into Adam Schiff's garbage.
	And we proved it.
	We didn't beat him back with the political narrative.
	We gave them the hard, irrefutable facts.
	And those facts have to be listened to, especially in a court of law.
	Now, I agree.
	We need better judges.
	And I think we did a good job.
	Well, President Trump did.
	I didn't have anything to do with it.
	Appointing the most judges in any four year period in history by a U.S.
	president.
	That's a start.
	That, coupled with the right leadership at the organizations willing to take on these cases and defend them in court, is what you need.
	And I think we built a system where we can at least start the fight.
	All right, your family came here to escape.
	Tyranny.
	To find freedom.
	You have been fighting for that in the numerous positions in the Department of Justice, Defense, the Intelligence Community and the White House.
	I'd like to end our discussions on a little personal message.
	What is it you say to those?
	And I think this is perhaps the largest challenge we face, despite the amazing rallies.
	I mean, 62,000 people last weekend.
	That's quite impressive.
	In the rain.
	In the rain.
	What do you say to those, and I've seen this all the time on my social media, on the DMs, the comments, especially in December or November, they say That's it.
	America's done.
	I've given up.
	What do you say to them, Cash?
	Don't.
	I'm not giving up.
	You're not giving up.
	There is a fight to be had.
	There is a fight to be won.
	There's leaders who are willing to engage and be the juggernauts like you.
	And we need to have our people follow suit.
	We cannot allow them to be defeated.
	And the rallies help.
	The messaging helps.
	The media helps.
	Going around the country like you and I do, talking to people.
	If anyone's listening and they have any doubt, then just go to some of the websites that Seb's been talking about.
	Look at some of his past work.
	Look at some of our past work.
	Reach out to us.
	We will respond to you.
	We will find something for you to do if you want to join the fight.
	And if you don't want to join the fight, but you just want to be one of our silent warriors, do that too.
	Knock on doors.
	Help voter registration.
	Help fight back voter fraud.
	There's a million things people can do.
	We just have to motivate them.
	And a lot of people don't know that they can do those things.
	Right.
	And it's not that hard and it doesn't take that much time.
	So I think there's a path.
	The organization that he's using to fight back on the libel is fightwithcash.com.
	Cash with a K. Check it out.
	That's fightwithcash.com.
	You can see his analysis every week.
	Cash's Corner at Epoch Times.
	Are you on Twitter?
	I am not on any social media.
	What?! !
	Yeah.
	Join the 22nd century.
	I know.
	Come on, buddy.
	Well, I think so.
	Where I am with FightWithCash.com, and let me just say this about that.
	I appreciate you letting me talk about it.
	It's not me.
	It's not for me.
	I started suing these people before FightWithCash.com became a reality, but when I was traveling around the country on Devin's Freedom Tour, people would come up to me like, I've been defamed.
	I've been wronged.
	So what we're going to do, we're going to create a database of everyone that's been deplatformed and defamed, and then we're going to reach out to you And we're going to say, do you want to go to court?
	We'll pay for it.
	We want you to have your day in court because the whole point of correcting the media is the only thing these people listen to is a monetary punishment that affects their bottom line.
	And we can do that.
	And I want to be filing a suit a month come September for Americans, not me, for them.
	And I think we can do it.
	Somebody had to do it, and I can't think of anyone better.
	FightWithCash.com.
	Lastly, you said Freedom Tour.
	Anything else that needs to be mentioned?
	Well, we could talk about Afghanistan, but that might take too long.
	Oh my gosh!
	You're going to come on my show, on my TV show Newsmax.
	We're going to talk to you, the Gawk Reality Check, in just a few seconds, which I said I wasn't going to do to you when we started.
	But we have to since you mentioned it.
	Well, let's just address the calumny, the libel of, well, this is just Trump's plan and he was going to desert the Afghans anyway.
	What's the truth?
	Because for those who are not familiar, the man sitting opposite me in my studio right now was the man responsible for the Trump plan for Kabul in Afghanistan when he was chief of staff in the Department of Defense.
	So tell us the truth.
	Is it your plan?
	Is leaving six 65,000 military vehicles.
	Your plan, Kash Patel?
	Let me give you the short answer.
	Of course not.
	President Trump had a bold plan, which I outlined in an op-ed last week in the New York Post.
	And it's very simple.
	It's not complicated.
	You don't have to be a military genius to figure out how to conditionally withdraw from Afghanistan.
	You have to inflict fear into your enemy and tell them, if you harm an American or an American interest, we are going to unleash the Department of Defense on you and eliminate you from God's green earth.
	He did that.
	He being President Trump.
	You actually bombed the Taliban during negotiations when they failed to meet one of the conditions, correct?
	He did.
	And he told the Taliban in no uncertain terms, we'll do it again.
	And they listened.
	And you have to bring, and people are always like, and the politicians are dodging this, and I know you're not, but they're like, hey, how can you negotiate with the Taliban?
	It's Afghanistan.
	Who do you want us to negotiate with?
	The French?
	Switzerland.
	Yeah.
	So it's their country.
	But you have to negotiate with them and the Afghans, and that's what we were doing.
	And the biggest thing is, how can you cut off the head of the operation?
	How can you cut off Bagram Airfield, our command and control element, leave billions of dollars of equipment, leave an operation for the Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS to come in and take over and inflict against us?
	When Joe Biden gave up that operation, whether it was at the behest of his military leaders, Or Blinken, or Milley, or whoever.
	The fact that he couldn't see straight enough to say, no, we need to stay in Bagram until all is done.
	And that's what President Trump said.
	We're not leaving here until it's all done.
	And then the equipment we can't take, we're going to blow it up.
	So no one gets it.
	So Russia and China don't get it.
	So the terrorists don't get it.
	It's not a complicated plan, but it's in my op-ed.
	And here's the kicker.
	Under Trump's withdrawal plan, conditions-based withdrawal, not one American died.
	Well, thank you for your incredible service to the nation in government for what you're going to be doing with fightwithcash.com.
	You're a great American.
	Thank you, Kash Patel.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	I really, really enjoyed this.

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