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Aug. 18, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: After Kabul falls

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	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	That is the official message, the automated reply you receive if you register for evacuation from Afghanistan.
	As a U.S.
	national, or as Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, says, in some kind of surreal phrase, those who self-identify as Americans.
	What if they self-identify as Venusians at the same time?
	This is the state of play under an America led, and I put that in quotes, by Joe Biden.
	A man who we have found out, thanks to the same Jen Psaki, has yet to make any phone calls to other heads of state following the fall of not just Kabul, but the fall of Afghanistan.
	And the fall of Afghanistan to who?
	To the Taliban.
	The Taliban, who Drake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor, and the State Department press spokesman have said, we hope, as the Biden administration, will abide by human rights regulations and the norms of polite society and have an inclusive administration with women in cabinet-level posts as well.
	At the same time, the Taliban is saying that they will run their country in accordance with Sharia law.
	Sharia law.
	The fundamental theocratic system of Islam.
	Now, in the last 72 hours, there's been a lot of hyperbole, a lot of chatter, and a lot of argument even on our side, on the conservative side, about what should have happened, what shouldn't have happened.
	We have President Trump giving an amazing interview on Fox News last night.
	We have several cuts we will share with you.
	But let's start at the beginning.
	Let's have a cold shower, a reality check, if you will, as to what America can do, and then we can get to the question of what America should do.
	What is America good at?
	Let's look at the last 70 years.
	When it comes to national security, foreign affairs, and military might, what are we good at?
	We are good at two things, and they are on the opposite side of the spectrum, and neither of them have anything to do with nation building.
	We are good at mass warfare.
	We are good at things like the Normandy beach landings.
	We are good at things like the Battle of the Bulge or the Iraqi invasion of 1990-1991.
	We are superlative.
	Nobody can touch us when it comes to combined arms operations, often in collaboration with our allies, meaning the application of overwhelming force.
	Lots of steel on target.
	Fast and heavy to a crushing degree.
	Such a crushing degree that in our last conventional war, which shockingly the last conventional war we fought was 1991, which was 30 years ago, that war against the then Saddam Hussein lasted less than a hundred hours.
	99 hours to defeat one of the most heavily, if not the most heavily armed nation in the Middle East.
	The other thing that we are superlative at is very small scale, small footprint, but very strategically relevant special operations missions.
	Whether it's the raid on Bin Laden's house in Abbottabad in Pakistan, the surgical strike missions typified by Fort Bragg, by Delta Force, by the US Navy SEALs.
	Again, nobody comes close.
	Nobody touches our capacity to send very, very small groups of men.
	And yes, men, no women need apply.
	Because if you can't carry your wounded comrade with his 60 pounds of pack out of that war zone, don't apply for the job.
	And don't forget dogs.
	Can't forget Conan the Dog from the operation Geronimo that took down UBR.
	Whether it's men or dogs, nobody comes close for our capacity to drop small units, alpha detachments, all the like, in faraway hellholes and bring...
	The justice of the righteous down on the neck of evil malefactors like Bin Laden, like Saddam Hussein, like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
	What we're not good at is nation building.
	Is taking erstwhile enemies who are not of our culture and turning their nations into paradise.
	Except with one exception.
	When we've utterly, completely crushed them.
	After we dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we could do nation building because we were in a rather unique position.
	When we had, with the help of the Soviets, turned the Third Reich into a sheet of glass, seen Hitler's body burnt on a pile of rubble above his bunker in Berlin, we could do nation-building in West Germany.
	We could do the same in Korea.
	But only after wide-scale, devastating, years-long war.
	Not the kind of half-pregnant pussyfooting around that we've seen in the last 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq.
	Don't get me wrong, what we did in Afghanistan in October 2001 was superlative special operations.
	But afterwards, the inordinate mission creep that we witnessed was neither large-scale warfare, nor was it small-footprint special operations.
	It was the impossible.
	Taking a hellhole of 36 different language and tribal identities of individuals who do not want to live together in a modern, modern federative state abiding by international laws.
	No, that's not possible.
	So, here we are today.
	With the fall of Kabul, the fall of Afghanistan, into the hands of people who, I'm sorry, Jake Sullivan, Jen Psaki, General quote-unquote Mark Milley, are our enemies and will always consider us to be their enemies.
	Why?
	Because if you're a Christian, you're an infidel.
	If you're an atheist, you're even worse than an infidel, because you deny the existence of any god.
	And we need to guarantee, not by large-scale invasion, not by pipe dreams of democracy and the Hindu Kush, but with special forces, surgical actions, that Afghanistan is never again A hotbed of terror training camps as it was under Bin Laden and the former Taliban regime.
	Under Biden, that will be impossible because Biden is a senile coward surrounded by imbeciles and cretins.
	Time to get Donald Trump re-elected.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is the Salem Radio Network, and you're listening to America First.
	The Salem Radio Network Alright, hang on.
	Mics are on.
	Alright, hang on.
	Real quick.
	Okay.
	Alrighty.
	Good stuff.
	Did you get the cut sheet I emailed it to you?
	I'm getting it now.
	Alright.
	The long cut is the one that Chris played that you wanted.
	How long is that?
	It's like over two minutes.
	I don't see a cut over two minutes on my sheet.
	Is it an audio cut?
	All right.
	No, it's 2.34 is cut.
	What?
	I messed it up there.
	Oh, 2.34.
	Oh, 2.34.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I see it.
	Okay.
	Um, did you get the, uh, script that I emailed you, uh, Dr. G?
	Yeah, but I don't have to do that today, do I?
	Um, I think they said it starts Monday, so yeah, you don't have to do it today.
	But just, um, yeah.
	So do you want to give a tweet and all that for... I gave John one.
	Okay, John.
	We can't wait until I'm done.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Oh, that CIA guy.
	Yeah.
	I found that where he was, but he was just on ESPN blaming Trump for the whole thing.
	Why people are still there.
	What?
	He changed his view?
	Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Gorka.
	Alright, just remember he talks to you in the break.
	We're live on Rumble during the breaks.
	Alright?
	Hey, Eric.
	Yes?
	Come in with cut one.
	Cut one.
	Yeah, he changed.
	He said it was because the Trump administration pulled the visas, and that's why.
	Okay, cut one, the long cut of the boss.
	Copy that.
	So do you still want him or know if he says it back?
	We can try and get him on.
	Okay.
	One segment.
	All right.
	All right.
	And I went ahead and printed off a quick bio of Jake Sullivan just using a wiki.
	Yeah.
	Okay, it's uh, yeah, it's on the greenroom printer.
	So you said you wanted to have Mr. Piper read that?
	I want to introduce Mr. Piper, John Jr.
	by way of having him read that bio on air so I can rip it to shreds.
	We'll probably do that in D.
	Alright, sounds good.
	I was thinking to differentiate because we have two Johns now.
	I was thinking of calling this one J.P.
	J.P.?
	J.P.?
	Are you a Catholic, John Jr.?
	He is not.
	Uh-oh.
	What?!
	Uh-oh!
	He will be.
	Another heretic.
	He said he's Episcopalian by trade.
	Oh, that's not permitted in our studio.
	It's very, uh, it's very west coast or east coast wasp.
	It's very blazer.
	It's very blazer.
	Have you been reading heresy recently?
	Unacceptable.
	30 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Standing by.
	No line or disclaimer or anything, Shad?
	Nope.
	Kurt, you there?
	Just want to check with you.
	I'm here.
	All right.
	Sounds good.
	All right.
	Coming in with the long cut of the boss.
	Standing by.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	The This is like the southern border, but it's handled even worse.
	Nobody handled the southern border worse than him.
	We had the most secure border we've ever had, now we have by far the worst border we've ever had.
	Well, Afghanistan is the exact same thing.
	To think of this...
	We have a military.
	It's holding it.
	You know, I got it reduced down to 2,500 soldiers and they were doing a good job.
	It was fine.
	It was a smaller force.
	I took it down from close to 20 to 2,500 and we were fine.
	But we have the military there.
	And we take the military out before we took our civilians out.
	And before we took the interpreters and other, we want to try and help.
	But by the way, I'm America first, OK?
	The Americans come out first.
	But we're also going to help people that helped us.
	And we have to be very careful with the vetting because you have some rough people in there.
	But we're going to help those people.
	But can you imagine?
	Now, what we were going to do just very quickly is we were going to take The military out last, okay, last.
	The people were coming out, they were going to come out, but the agreement was violated so I held things back because we weren't going to do anything, again, conditions based.
	So they weren't fulfilling their obligations and conditions.
	But here's just a finish.
	The people come out first.
	Then I was going to take all of the military equipment.
	We have billions and billions of dollars worth of new Blackhawk helicopters, brand new, that Russia now will be examining and so will China and so will everybody else to figure it because it's the greatest in the world.
	We have brand new army tanks and all sorts of equipment, missiles.
	We have everything.
	I was going to take it out, because I knew they weren't going to fight.
	Just one thing, and I have to say, and this is different from everyone else, I said, why are they fighting?
	Why are these Afghan soldiers fighting against the Taliban?
	And I was told some very bad information by a lot of different people.
	The fact is they're among the highest paid soldiers in the world.
	They were doing it for a paycheck.
	Because once we stopped, once we left, they stopped fighting.
	So all of the people that talk about the bravery and everything, I say everybody's brave.
	But the fact is, Our country was paying the Afghan soldiers a fortune.
	So we were sort of bribing them to fight.
	And that's not what it's all about.
	It's a great thing that we're getting out, but nobody has ever handled a withdrawal worse than Joe Biden.
	This is the greatest embarrassment, I believe, in the history of our country.
	The greatest embarrassment in the history of our country.
	The president's interview on Fox yesterday.
	We'll be sharing more of it as the day proceeds.
	But let's get a response from somebody who's been in a war zone, worn the cloth of the Republic, and actually kept the streets of Los Angeles safe as well.
	We call him Colonel Kaye, the author of the new Kelly Turnbull book, The Split.
	Kurt Schlichter, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Just keep in mind, I never did anything but wash cars.
	But I did go to the War College, and I didn't stick around for a while.
	You are a War College buddy, and it was an armed car wash.
	It was a decontamination facility for your buddies in the U.S.
	Army.
	Let me ask you first, are you amused by how people are trying to blame Donald Trump for what happened in Kabul at the weekend?
	I guess they missed the election in November, Kurt.
	Well, look, a commander is responsible for everything his unit does or does not do.
	Now, of course, I'm Old Army.
	I'm Unwoke Army.
	I'm army that actually wins.
	So maybe I don't fit into the modern kind of thing, but, you know, When you're the boss, you're responsible.
	And I note that no one has been responsible for this.
	Who's been fired for this giant cluster, this total disaster?
	Who's the guy who's gotten it and handed it to him?
	There aren't any.
	Instead, we have this ridiculous thing where we have our alleged president hiding out at Camp David.
	We have Milley having his people leak to their friends in the media how the military went, oh, no, we didn't want any of this to happen.
	Although they're the guys who were supposed to plan and execute it.
	And apparently they're in the process of screwing it up on the ground.
	You know, apparently they're arguing with the Brits who are actually going out and getting the people that they helped and bringing them back while the Americans are chasing their tails.
	And of course we have the intelligence community also leaking, don't look at us!
	We knew this was coming.
	You know, just like we knew the wall was going to fall, we knew 9-11, you know, because our intelligence community has this legacy of success that's non-existent.
	So, I mean, you know, and you wonder, where's the accountability?
	Who's going to get fired for this?
	And the answer is they're all going to look at each other and kind of shrug, and none of them.
	No.
	Absolutely none of them.
	And, you know, I have to deal with some of the callers we get, some of the texts and DMs I get, where they're saying, oh, this was all planned.
	No, no, this is arrogance mixed with rank incompetence.
	The idea, Kurt, Kurt, can I just stop at one little data point?
	This administration Doesn't know whether there are 11,000 or 40,000 Americans in Afghanistan.
	That in itself is an indictment, is it not?
	Well, look, how can you say, while they plan for this mission, okay, what are the parameters of the mission?
	And if you don't know that, you haven't gone through a military decision-making process.
	I mean, it's like starting, hey, plan this operation, OK?
	What do I have to do?
	Well, we're not going to tell you.
	We'll figure that out after you make the plan and begin executing it.
	Wow.
	I mean, look, I get very tired of this because, you know, I'm a civilian lawyer.
	And I sometimes argue at the ninth circuit and stuff like that.
	So I'm kind of a snob about arguments.
	So I'm looking at these people, and I'm listening to their argument with, well, Trump would have done all this.
	Well, of course, Trump had four years to do all of this and never did it, which is a pretty good indicator that he wasn't going to do it.
	But there are three ways you can end a war, Dr. Corker.
	You can win it, and we're not willing to go do what we'd have to do to do that.
	No.
	We'd have to do something like the Boers would do, clear the countryside, and then go roam and kill everybody else.
	We're not willing to do that, and there aren't a whole lot of people saying we should.
	So, we can either negotiate, or we can lose.
	If you negotiate, well, then you are negotiating, and you are creating a peace.
	So when people say, well, he released thousands of prisoners, yes, that's customary when a war ends.
	That's part of it.
	Do you think the Taliban are going to negotiate a peace where their guys are still in jail?
	By definition, you're negotiating with bad people, if you're fighting them, and you're trying to get a solution.
	Now, if you now say what Donald Trump did in negotiating is wrong, that's fine.
	You've now said we are willing to lose.
	Okay?
	Own that.
	Because losing is what Joe Biden has chosen, and losing is what we're doing.
	But isn't there a broader point here that the Taliban wouldn't even have tried this?
	They wouldn't have tried to storm the Bagram airport or the presidential palace whilst Donald Trump was commander-in-chief because they were afraid of him, Kurt?
	I think that's absolutely right.
	I think, you know, that desiccated old weirdo in the White House, well, he's not in the White House, he's hiding out at Camp David alone in a situation room eating his mush, probably watching reruns of Matlock.
	Stop it!
	know, he does not inspire fear.
	And in fact, the Chinese, I don't understand.
	I guess I'm tougher than our enemies, because if I was Xi, I would grab Taiwan tomorrow, because I know there's nothing.
	Stop it.
	Stop it.
	You're giving the bad guys ideas.
	Don't do it.
	And please, we love Colonel K, but you don't have to ruin Matlock for me.
	We'll be back with the troublemaker, the author of the split.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios.
	Stay on this channel. Clear.
	Mic's on.
	So how much of a bump did Dan give you with his interview?
	Is the book doing well?
	The book's doing okay.
	I've just hit a bunch of publicity with you and Dan.
	I just flew back from D.C.
	I flew out there for the night to do Tim Poole's podcast.
	But what, is he based out here?
	Yeah, he's out in like West Virginia.
	Oh my gosh!
	So when does that air?
	That aired last night, but you can find it on Rumble.
	Yeah.
	And I thought it was pretty good.
	It interested wide-ranging discussion with intellectually curious people, so it's not like the regular media.
	No, I'm familiar.
	Yeah, good.
	Yeah, but the book's doing okay.
	The first one is back under $1,000.
	It was $900 and something today.
	Wow.
	So it's selling.
	I like selling books.
	Hey guys, I found a clip actually from the Situation Room of Joe Biden.
	Give it a listen.
	That was pretty quick.
	Yeah.
	Eric, will you come in with Cut 2?
	Cut 2, The Boss, Part 2, 35 seconds.
	Copy that.
	I'm very troubled by what I'm hearing.
	I don't know if it's true, but apparently the 82nd is bumping heads with the paratroopers from the Brits, because the Brits are going out and grabbing their people.
	The Brits, yeah, two parries out picking up the Brits.
	Yeah, and then the US guys are apparently doing what US guys always do when they become generals, which is fret and moan and not risk their stars.
	Uh, if it was General Schlichter, I'd be like, we're conducting operations.
	You're going out.
	I, you know, we're going to get, you're going to get cover.
	I'm sending gunships and you bring me those Taliban guys and say, I'm going to pay you not to screw with us.
	But if you do screw with us, I will kill all of you.
	Yep.
	Time to roll out and get on guys.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You see an American go the other way.
	You don't want this.
	Yeah.
	Millie and Lloyd Austin have a press conference now, so I'm sure everything's under control.
	Oh, he is?
	Oh, that's so reassuring.
	Well, I hope he's timed out the important priorities like validating the trans experience and the climate change.
	And the enemies in the U.S.
	military.
	He didn't have his COVID shield on, though.
	What?
	No COVID shield?
	Science denier.
	Uh-oh.
	Why does he hate science so much, Dr. Drew?
	I know.
	Their top priority is going to be evacuating the one transgender Air Force veteran who's stuck in Afghanistan.
	They don't look very happy.
	Austin didn't have that big, deep voice like usual.
	He's kind of rolling through the answers.
	He doesn't want to be there.
	Oh, he doesn't look happy.
	Uh, one minute.
	Do you want to come in with something, Dr. G?
	Yes.
	Coming cut to.
	Coming cut to.
	Yep, it's right in here.
	35 seconds, isn't it?
	50 seconds to air.
	I like my giant microphone.
	That is such a cool angle.
	I see you got one of your toys on the wall in the background there.
	It's not.
	It's theirs.
	It was here.
	Wonder Woman.
	That looks like something you would have.
	I bought a Minion who's on the table, but you can't see him.
	I got a Minion yesterday.
	30 seconds.
	Standby.
	Standing by. Standing
	by. Standing by.
	The Taliban has circled the airport and who knows if they're going to treat us right.
	You know, all of a sudden they'll say, well, frankly, if they were smart, they'd really and they are smart and they are smart.
	They should let the Americans out.
	But we've had situations where you have two or three or four hostages.
	We could have 40000 Americans, not to mention others like people that helped us in Afghanistan.
	We've never had a situation like this.
	We have 40,000 potential hostages, a minimum of 11,000, but it could be as many as 40.
	As many as 40,000 Americans in Taliban-controlled territory.
	That's President Trump yesterday on Fox News.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First coming to you from our buddies WLTN Radio in New Hampshire.
	Thank you guys for being my home away from home.
	I want to hear your voices.
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	833-33 Gorka.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	But let's continue our discussion with Colonel K. Colonel Kirchlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbill series.
	Check out the latest.
	It's called The Split.
	You've worked in some very hairy places.
	You have deployed to the Gulf.
	You've deployed to the Balkans.
	You've deployed to maybe the scariest of all, which is the streets of Los Angeles during the L.A.
	riots.
	How bad?
	Look, it's embarrassing already.
	It is a huge embarrassment, like President Trump said, for this administration, for the pajama boys in the White House, including Jake Sullivan.
	But 40,000 hostages?
	That could get even uglier very quickly, could it not, Kurt?
	Oh boy, it could, and it's mind-boggling, Dr. Gorka.
	Now, one of the many mistakes that these people make, you heard about Trump betrayed the Kurds, for instance.
	Like, the Kurds aren't a whole bunch of different folks who have loose ethnic ties.
	Same with the Taliban.
	It's not THE Taliban.
	It's a bunch of different groups.
	So if you buy off Group A, Group B might come out with a handout, doesn't get paid, and decide to snatch a bunch of Americans.
	And then, what do we do?
	What do you expect from this feckless administration, Kirk?
	I would expect them to... I think what they would do, and it might be the best plan in a terrible situation, is send in some Afghan hands who understand the country a little bit with big satchels of cash to buy our people's lives.
	That is what I expect them to do.
	The cost of that, in terms of the funding it provides to our jihadi enemies, how about some of the kind of action we're seeing from the Brits, which is the application of military capabilities on the ground, just to snatch these people up and rescue them?
	They're going out and grabbing people and the Taliban, and I think wisely, knowing how Tupara works.
	are staying the heck away from them.
	Just saying, let those guys go.
	Do not mess with those guys.
	And it's sad, but not all of our forces seem to have that reputation.
	Yeah, when I was in the British Reserves, we used 2PARA as the security force for the SEER training that we were involved with.
	And they were pretty, pretty hard dudes when it came to playing the enemy.
	Kurt, your latest book is The Split, Kelly Turnbull.
	Number six, I believe.
	Tell our audience, give a little bit of a teaser.
	What is the scenario for the latest in the Kelly Turnbull adventures?
	Well, Dr. Gorka, the book started with People's Republic.
	America has split into red and blue.
	Kelly Turnbull is an operative who specializes in going into blue areas and getting things done.
	This time he's got, he has to head in.
	He's got a new mission, and he ends up in Boston, and then he ends up in Michigan.
	And there's a lot of shooting, a lot of Wilson combat CQD use, and a lot of insane liberal nonsense that he encounters.
	America in the blue areas have basically turned into a giant college campus, with all that entails.
	Let's tie all these subjects together, given the deleterious effect of recent events on the brand that is the Democrat Party, the disaster, the embarrassment occurring overseas.
	Do you think the likes of Antifa and BLM will likewise lose steam given how undermined the big man's brand is in the White House?
	I think so, because I don't think they will be useful right about now.
	What was being promised was normalcy, and of course, they all disappeared mysteriously as soon as Donald Trump left, and normalcy became the thing.
	But the problem is, we're getting normalcy under Jimmy Carter.
	We're getting inflation and humiliation across the globe.
	Uh, you know, as from the famous introduction to the film, Patton, America's love a winner and they will not tolerate a loser.
	And I think everybody's getting sick of this guy.
	Yeah, they are not useful.
	That is a good news.
	However, it is the leadership of the ilk of Jimmy Carter.
	Thank you.
	Read this man's amazing contributions at townhall.com.
	He is Colonel K. Follow him on Twitter.
	He's got a rather good Twitter game.
	Colonel Schlichter.
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	It's just making me sick.
	That Jake Sullivan, I mean, a literal pajama boy.
	He's never had a real job in his life.
	I mean, if they convened a council of renowned idiots to figure out a worse plan, I don't think they could have done it.
	No, no.
	It could not be worse.
	Could not be worse.
	All right.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Thanks a lot.
	Adios.
	All right, Dr. G, do you want to hear the food for the poor audio real quick?
	Sure.
	I know America always help out whenever they can.
	We're in a situation where we need it more than ever now.
	We're in a situation that was bad and just got worse.
	I encourage people who are giving, especially to food for the poor, I encourage them to help in any way that they can so that we can help the people here.
	We've lost enough human lives.
	We should try as much as we can to save what we have left.
	Who is that?
	This is a guy named Ayrvay.
	So like A-I-R-V-A-Y.
	It's not how it's spelled, but that's how you pronounce it.
	Ayrvay, he's a small business owner.
	So Ayrvay Joseph, small business owner in Haiti.
	Okay, the yesterday's one really worked, so come in with yesterday's audio.
	Okay, sounds good.
	Something you haven't mentioned is the presidential assassination.
	No.
	No, that's true.
	Yeah, that's good.
	That's another thing.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Um, so we, um, this is the segment where you're going to have, uh, JP read the Sullivan bio?
	Uh, yes.
	All right.
	He's sitting in the studio, by the way, and he's- In my chair?!
	Not in your chair.
	Not in your chair.
	He's in the guest- He's in the guest chair.
	I'm in the guest chair.
	Shall I put him on camera while he speaks?
	That would have been a very short employment history.
	Yeah, I'd be out the door real quick.
	Shall I put him on camera when he speaks?
	No, don't get him in trouble.
	How do you want me to introduce you?
	John or John Jr., JP?
	You have to decide on your radio identity in the next 10 seconds.
	Alright, well, I think John Piper's fine.
	If you want to slide anything in there just for your... No, I'll do John P. How's that?
	That's good.
	That's good.
	We all have our nicknames.
	Shad's the professor.
	Geoff is Mr. G. I'm the extremist.
	Extremist from California, never heard of it.
	That's what California does to a man.
	You've never been on the west coast before, man.
	20 seconds.
	Standby.
	Standing by.
	Not coming in with anything?
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	Got it.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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	So let's give you the correct context for the A-team that is running things inside the Biden administration.
	I keep mentioning the name Drake Sullivan, who incredibly, despite never having done anything real, is the National Security Advisor for the most powerful nation in the world.
	We have a new member of the America First team.
	We'll just call him John P. And I've asked him to share with you, our millions of dear friends across the nation, the sterling credentials of the man who has the ear of the man who bears the title President of the United States.
	John P., would you tell us about who Jake Sullivan is?
	Gladly.
	Let's go through his biography here.
	Jacob Jeremiah Sullivan, born November 28, 1976, is an American political advisor who serves as the United States National Security Advisor to President Joe Biden.
	He was previously Senior Policy Advisor to Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential election campaign and her Deputy Chiefs of Staff.
	at the Department of State when she was the Secretary of State.
	Sullivan was also a senior advisor to the U.S.
	government for the Iran nuclear negotiations and a visiting professor at Yale Law School.
	So, I'm missing the part where he was a combat veteran with multiple Purple Hearts in Afghanistan and Iraq.
	Did you not catch that?
	Did Eric not print that for you, John P.?
	Funny enough, I think it might have been on the sheet that didn't come with me in the studio.
	And the 30 years in military circles, or teaching the military, or wearing the cloth of the Republic, that got left on the printer as well?
	I believe so.
	Wow.
	Thank you, John P. And welcome to the America First team.
	Welcome aboard.
	We don't have a bosun's whistle, but next time we shall use one.
	So guys, listen to that.
	This is an individual who's never had a real job in their lives, had one sinecure post, At a university as a teacher.
	You know he didn't get that because of his academic credentials.
	Because he's a political hack!
	He was a senior advisor to the Hillary Clinton campaign, which was defeated by us in the Donald Trump campaign.
	When she was the Secretary of State, she was the deputy.
	He was the deputy chief of staff in the State Department, which meant what?
	In practice, what does that really mean?
	Covering up for the corruption of his boss, Hillary Clinton.
	And then most delicious of all, the man who is supposed to be number one consigliere to the most powerful man in the world, was a chief advisor To the Iran deal.
	The deal in which Obama, with the acquiescence and support of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, released tens of billions of US dollars back to Iran, including literal pallets of cash to a murderous regime that every Friday calls for the destruction of the Great Satan, the United States.
	Those are Jake Sullivan's qualifications.
	A man who stood at the podium yesterday and admitted that Joe Biden hasn't spoken, hasn't spoken to any world leader since Kabul fell.
	That they don't know when he's coming back from his vacation.
	Jake Sullivan is emblematic of the Democrat Party, the corruption, the arrogance, and the ignorance.
	Just compare that pathetic man to Mike Flynn.
	With 32 years in uniform, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
	Thank you so much, John, and welcome to the team.
	We're going to take your calls next here on America First, 833-33-GORKA.
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	How much time do we have left in this segment?
	Okay, so we've got two and a half minutes.
	I'm going to take one call.
	Let's go to Leonardo!
	Welcome to America First!
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	That I like, Leo.
	What would you like to share with us today?
	Well, I was texting, you called on me when I was texting Jake Sullivan, I wanted him to drop off a pallet of cash at my house over here in Jersey, but I wanted to say that Larry Elder is a domino in the domino theory of So you think Larry's going to win in California, Leo?
	Thank God we got rid of Dua Facce Disgracia, the two-faced disgrace.
	Oh, I like that.
	Dua Facce Disgracia.
	That's fabulous.
	So you think Larry's going to win in California, Leo?
	Yeah, and that domino's going to knock out Whitmer and, of course, that other Italian governor in the Iron Curtain of New Jersey, Felito Murfelini, the brown shirt.
	Murfelini, your favorite governor.
	You always bring him up.
	We gotta clear the system of these corrupt Democrats.
	That's first call of the day, and it goes as it should to Leo.
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	All right, where are you calling from?
	Yeah, I was just reading.
	Okay, sorry.
	I'm sorry for interrupting.
	Oh, how are you?
	Good, what do you want to say?
	That's because that's when they're looking for them, right?
	Yeah, that's when they're looking for them.
	There we go.
	And that's technically when they- the time specifically that they bought.
	That's a monetary thing.
	So next up is Chen in the next hour.
	How much time have we got?
	A minute and a half.
	What's COP 9 like, Geoff?
	What's COP 9 like?
	Good, it just happened.
	She resigned and she rips the school board about, um, not the school board, the county commissioners, about having to be vaccinated.
	So it's at a public meeting?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	One minute, 18 seconds.
	Yeah, I'll do it.
	Come in with, um, come in with COP 5, DJT.
	5, DJT, Borderline.
	Wait for the disclaimer.
	Disclaimer?
	Yeah.
	Alrighty.
	Uh, you got a title in mind for Schlichter?
	Or the monologue?
	Is, uh, line one still there?
	Um, I, uh... Uh, name starts with a D?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Schlichter, we should, uh, Kabul, colon, do what the Brits are doing.
	Do what the Brits are doing, got it.
	1A?
	Alright, wait for the disclaimer.
	Oh wow, I thought that was the sound of it.
	I have a whistle, there you go.
	It's not a bosun's whistle.
	It's got a whistle.
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	Are you going to run in 2024?
	So the campaign finance laws, which are antiquated and stupid, okay?
	Stupid.
	They're corrupt in a way, but they're stupid.
	Doesn't allow me to tell you that, okay?
	If I tell you that, a whole host of things happens, which are bad.
	So I can tell you this.
	I love our country.
	You're going to be very happy.
	Guys, what does that mean?
	It's what I told you!
	Donald Trump is running.
	Look, there are no coincidences.
	I said we need a bosun's whistle to welcome John Peon to the team, and I'm looking around in my guest studio.
	What do I find?
	It's not a bosun's whistle, but it's cool.
	Welcome aboard, John P!
	Let's go to your calls.
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	Agnes, welcome back to the America First.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Good talking to you.
	I just want to say that Biden administration don't care one bit for the gold star moms and my heart goes out to them just as much as this administration doesn't care for the angel moms and dads who lost their children at the hands of criminal illegal aliens.
	And the worst part of it is nobody is paying attention to what's happening at the southern border now because the focus is on what's happening in Afghanistan.
	Yeah, I know you because I was invited to speak at an event.
	At Capitol Hill with you and the other angel moms.
	You lost your son, Roland, to an illegal alien who murdered him here in the United States.
	But you're right, it's all connected.
	It's all connected.
	Whether it's an open southern border, whether it's the people who are now trapped in Afghanistan, or the people who are going to come across this border, Agnes, who are going to say that they're from Afghanistan, right?
	They're just going to lie.
	Yes, and you know what's even bad?
	I heard that Gavin Newsom, the dictator Gavin Newsom, invited some of these people from Afghanistan into California.
	We don't know who these people are, just as much as we don't know who's coming from the southern border into our country.
	Why are we inviting trouble, crime, and terrorists into our country without being vetted?
	I just do not understand.
	how they want to destroy this country so much.
	Having come from a communist country, I am ashamed of what the United States is doing right now.
	I am not proud of the United States right now.
	And I hope to God and pray that something can happen.
	Donald Trump can come back.
	God bless him for who he is and he continues to fight for our country.
	But we need to all stand up against this Marxist government of ours.
	Well, he's definitely running.
	You heard him there.
	It's up to us to make sure that he becomes the 47th or, if Kamala has a couple of weeks in office, the 48th President of the United States.
	Jeff is absolutely right.
	God bless you, Agnes.
	God bless the soul of your dear departed son.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	I'm back in the weird studio, but hey, so are you.
	We're in different places today.
	Would you like my giant microphone?
	Yes, look at that thing.
	That's amazing.
	We love forced perspective.
	Tell me that you have shorts on underneath that suit.
	The COVID mullet.
	And flip flops.
	I know, right?
	You can't be on vacation in a full suit.
	Jen, would you like to adjust your camera down a little bit if you can?
	Oh yeah, a little bit of less headroom.
	Is that the right one?
	Yeah, that's good.
	Give me my camera.
	Yes.
	Too high, too low.
	Hold on.
	That's good.
	I think that should be good right there, Jen.
	Is that okay?
	That's good.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Go to the single shot of her.
	Yes.
	Can you do a little bit less headroom?
	Down a little bit.
	See if that works.
	That looks- Good.
	Yeah.
	Awesome.
	Good?
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Split screen and you.
	Split screen?
	Perfect.
	Awesome.
	Alright.
	Minute 40.
	So I just heard- Minute 40.
	So I just heard, Jen, that Doug Osi dropped out like the other day.
	Heart attack.
	That poor guy.
	I feel so bad for him.
	I know.
	I felt bad for him too.
	He's a nice man.
	Of all the candidates, he was the one who by far did- Until Elder came in, he was the one candidate who did the least to piss me off.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	After we come in with the intro music- Yeah.
	Let it play for a bit and then cut seven.
	Cut seven.
	Wait for my liner.
	It's the top of the hour.
	I hope OC finds something meaningful in the future.
	I think he seems like an alright guy.
	He's a nice guy.
	He's a farmer.
	I think, you know.
	Gotta respect that.
	Nice guys in politics?
	Come on.
	He was like the last politician in recent memory who imposed term limits on himself and then followed them.
	I know.
	That was the last time anybody did that.
	He's not doing politics right.
	Aw.
	Gotta cheat.
	You gotta cheat.
	How's California?
	It's okay.
	It's a little spitty today, which is very strange.
	Spitty?
	Yeah, it's like a little rainy.
	What does that mean?
	It's a little rainy, a little weird.
	And everything's good.
	I have a speaking engagement tonight, so I'm going to get out of here after I'm done with you guys.
	I'll wrap up.
	A group in the San Fernando Valley, the east.
	It's Burbank, Glendale, Crescent Valley, Republican Women's Federated.
	Cool.
	Yeah, so it should be fun.
	All right, standing by.
	Coming in with cut seven after liner and some music.
	Yep.
	Standing by.
	Standing by.
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	Thank you.
	Well, first may I just say that I commend the president for the action that he took.
	It was strong, it was decisive, and it was the right thing to do.
	We should have been out of Afghanistan a while back.
	What world does she live in?
	I really don't know!
	That's crazy, Nancy!
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First.
	Maybe she can help explain it for us.
	She's our West Coast warrior princess, Jennifer Horne, regular guest here on America First, host of The Morning Answer.
	AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, also CRNtalk.com.
	Jennifer, as a radio pro par excellence, first question for you, okay, before we get to Crazy Nancy.
	Sure.
	I'm on the road.
	I'm in the Northern Kingdom, and I am borrowing the great studios here at WLTN Radio.
	How do you like my giant microphone?
	I love your giant microphone.
	It's awesome.
	It's bigger than my head!
	It's huge!
	I know.
	Where did you find that thing?
	It's Force Predict.
	It's ILM.
	It's CGI.
	It's magic.
	It's just magic.
	Are you trying to say it's an optical illusion?
	It is a little bit of an optical illusion.
	I love it, though.
	And you know what's fun about getting out of our standard studios, right?
	I always think it's fun to go and see how everybody else is set up around them.
	Maybe this is a little too inside baseball, but it's fun to get into radio studios around the country, see how people do things and how everything is set up.
	And your studio space looks great today.
	I like it.
	Well, of course, because I always travel with my giant old school radio mic.
	And if you look over my, what shoulder is this one?
	My left shoulder, I always travel with my own lava lamp.
	Do you see that?
	Oh my God, you brought the lava lamp!
	I actually travel with my own lava lamp!
	So how do you travel with a six foot five microphone?
	It's my hand luggage.
	Step away from my microphone.
	You have that convertible now.
	You can just pop that thing right out the top and you're good to go.
	Open the hood, have it stick out.
	Yes, exactly.
	All right, stop it.
	We're having far too much fun with Jennifer Horne.
	Follow her now on Twitter, at Jennifer Horne.
	Jennifer, anything to say about Crazy Nancy?
	Well, the only excuse is that clearly she's doing some morning drinking, right?
	I mean, she must... She had a mimosa, hold the orange juice, maybe a little vodka in her Cheerios.
	A jug of mimosa.
	I don't... Okay, so I've heard... First of all, I mean, how can you not be appalled and embarrassed and disgraced by what Joe Biden did?
	Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	You're appalled, you're disgraced by what he's done.
	Yes.
	Because you do live in a different place and we love the chance that Gavin may be removed.
	Pelosi's nephew, nephew, Pelosi's nephew.
	Can I say that?
	Pelosi's nephew may be removed from the governor's mansion.
	All in the family.
	Does the Kabul collapse?
	Is it a story in LA?
	Is it a story in California?
	You can't avoid it and I really think that this is going to be Some kryptonite for Biden.
	When you see the mainstream news media turning on him, when you see the people who have been tripping all over themselves to be favorable, someone's head is going to roll.
	Now, whether that someone is Jake Sullivan, someone in the intel community, whether it's Antony Blinken or whether it's Joe Biden himself.
	Look, I've said and we've talked about all along that we didn't think Joe Biden was going to stick this out for four years.
	Andrew Cuomo was a useful idiot in New York.
	He was able to fight Donald Trump.
	The Democrats loved him because he was big and tough and a New Yorker and could come out strong against Donald Trump.
	And now that he's no longer useful because Trump's not in office, they can get rid of him.
	He's expendable because he's not one of them.
	And I mean the far left.
	Joe Biden is expendable as well to the left.
	This is why you're not seeing a ton of people come out and defend him, including Kamala Harris.
	This is important.
	Let's put this into the broader context because this gels nicely with how he became president.
	The only reason he became the candidate Is because the other ones were floundering or were too unelectable.
	So Bernie Sanders for the establishment was unelectable.
	Kamala got less than 2%.
	Therefore they went with the husk of Biden because they needed a meat puppet who could actually win the election with the 80 million mail-in ballots.
	But you're right because that means at the end of the day his utility is measured only in so much as it is useful in any given day.
	And once he is no longer of use to the Democrat establishment, he will be jettisoned.
	So the idea that this man is safe from his own party is incorrect.
	No way.
	Oh, and it's been like this.
	I mean, you could see the writing on the wall.
	The minute he picked, and I'll put air quotes around picked Kamala Harris as his vice president, you could see the writing on the wall.
	Here's why.
	Don't forget Joe Biden during the 2020 election, during the primary, was also flopping around a bit.
	He wasn't anywhere near being the front runner.
	It was Bernie Sanders.
	Bernie Sanders took on the life of the Democrat Party.
	He was the one who was winning primaries, but they knew that Bernie Sanders could not beat Donald Trump.
	So what did they do?
	They threw that Hail Mary pass.
	They got Biden to be the one that would be electable.
	They knew he was a shell of himself.
	They knew that he was transactional.
	They knew that he wanted to be president for part of his legacy.
	And so he made the deal.
	He was weak enough to make the deal, take the deal with the establishment.
	They got to pick his vice president.
	You can't convince me I mean, you'd have to come with some serious proof to convince me that Joe Biden picked Kamala Harris on his own.
	They didn't like each other.
	She said terrible things about him.
	The party always wanted Kamala Harris.
	Being from California, I knew that.
	I've seen her operate.
	She's a transactional character.
	The Democrat Party knew it.
	And so they put her in that position because they knew they could control her.
	And that at some point, once Joe Biden got them elected, However he did it, whether it was, I mean, I think there's a lot of stories that we could weave about how they got him in there, but they did.
	And he was acceptable to some of those people who wouldn't have voted for Bernie Sanders.
	They were able to get him in there.
	Now they will get rid of him.
	He has said all along, this is not a surprise.
	He wanted to get out of Afghanistan.
	The guy cannot make a foreign policy decision to save his life.
	And so they're going to let him hold this and own it.
	And I think it was a speechwriter.
	On purpose!
	When you heard Biden speak, finally after coming back from vacation, when he said, the buck stops here.
	That wasn't Biden saying that, that was them.
	They want him to take ownership of this because they know eventually it'll lead to his fall.
	What happens then, as somebody who knows Kamala Harris, who's watched her utterly, as you say, transactional career in California, she comes in, what is a camellia presidency going to look like, Jennifer?
	Because, you know, for all her vicious capability in building herself a career, there's nothing there.
	There's no identity.
	There's the cackling.
	There's no ideology.
	So what is that going to look like?
	What's your best guess as a California resident who's watched her career?
	I think it looks like what we've seen already.
	I I was thinking about on my way to work today, I was walking through the parking lot going in to do the morning answer and I was thinking to myself, you know, there have been a lot of presidents obviously through the course of a lifetime that you don't like, you don't agree with.
	For me, President Obama was extremely divisive.
	He set people down the wrong path going towards socialism.
	But I never felt that he was the disaster that Joe Biden is.
	I mean, what we've seen in seven months is the left's policies at work here at home with a dose of Biden foreign policy mixed in for a kicker.
	And it's disastrous.
	I think that you are going to see only more of that.
	You know, I like to be an optimist.
	I like to think that we have a chance.
	And truly, when people say that the most important election of our lifetime is coming up, that's the 2022 midterms.
	If we don't get somebody with some sanity And that it doesn't even need to be a Republican at this point, because the party is also pretty disappointing.
	But we need to get some common sense, smart thinking people who can go in there and stand up.
	I ask you today, where is the Republican leadership?
	If this were Trump and this was Trump's foreign policy mess, you don't think that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer would be all over Trump?
	Where is Kevin McCarthy?
	Where is Mitch McConnell?
	This truly does blow my mind.
	Why is it up to the likes of you, me, Kurt Schlichter, the conservative commentators, Dinesh and others, why do we have to be the voice of national criticism in a time of massive failure seven months in?
	Where is the GOP, Jennifer?
	They're failing us, and so we need to call them out.
	That's our job, to be on our own team saying, hey guys, we need more.
	Where is Kevin McCarthy?
	Where is Republican leadership?
	We need them right now, because 2022 is significant.
	If we don't capture the House, which we can absolutely do, if we don't get some control back in the Senate, I don't know what to tell you about the next four years, with Kamala Harris in place, with Joe Biden on the way out.
	It's not a good look for our country already.
	We have taken so many hits on the global stage that have put us, we are in such a much more dangerous place today than we were even last week.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So much more to discuss.
	Amazing events in California.
	We're going to share with you a audio cut from a nurse speaking out at the San Diego County Supervisors Meeting.
	We're going to get the latest updates on how Larry Elder And the rest of the slate are doing against Gavin Newsom.
	I think he's worried.
	I think he's in trouble.
	He's tried to buy everybody off.
	And the change of date for the recall is not serving him well.
	More from Jennifer Horne.
	Follow her right now at Jennifer Horne.
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	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
	Hey, Jeff.
	Mike's on.
	Jeff.
	Yeah.
	Can you get John to post the Bartiromo cut and say, President Trump lets the cat out of the bag over here?
	Of course he's running in 2024.
	All right.
	So during that segment, something just ran across my mind.
	What?
	I don't know what it was.
	I don't see anything now.
	Was it Gavin Newsom?
	I don't know.
	Was it Bill Cosby?
	But it's a good thing I didn't scream because I sort of wanted to.
	Something ran across your foot?
	It wasn't like, I mean, I don't know if it was like a spider or something.
	I don't know.
	It was... So we have a big place here.
	We have a barn here that Just rife with mice.
	One weekend, one week, we brought our cat from DC.
	He actually caught 14 mice in 30 hours.
	Oh my God, that must have been like Disneyland for the cat.
	He was ecstatic.
	But then one of our advertisers, he's a guy from Australia who's invented this ultrasonic plug.
	You plug in the wall.
	And they hate the sound of it, and it uses the whole wiring system of the building as the resonator.
	So you only need one.
	I put it in last year.
	Since we've been here, I haven't seen one mouse.
	Are you serious?
	So it really works.
	You might need one for your studio.
	Maybe.
	I know.
	Well, this isn't, you know, this is the one that they don't normally use so much.
	So there we go.
	That's the closet studio, right?
	That's where they keep mice.
	That's the closet studio.
	But guess what I did?
	Maybe you need one of these.
	I didn't put the, I do, but I had to put the camera back in and a light so that it wasn't so dark in here.
	So at least it's like, it's a good backup when we need it.
	Hey, Dr. G, you wanted to do American financing here.
	So what's the scoop?
	I'm going to tee up cut nine eventually.
	Cut nine.
	Yep.
	And by eventually, he means any time in the next hour and a half.
	Hey, do you mind?
	I've never done that.
	Maybe the next 40 minutes.
	He's rough, this guy.
	He's rough.
	Maybe the next 40 minutes.
	I'm just joking.
	Just joshing.
	Just joshing.
	So what's the scoop?
	Anything new and exciting around there?
	I always like to know the gossip.
	Well, we've got a new employee.
	It's true.
	Ooh, who do we have?
	John Jr.
	Yes.
	We call him John Jr.
	John P. And he was on the radio today.
	Were you not, John Jr.?
	Were you not on radio, John?
	I was.
	He was on radio.
	Hi, John.
	Hi, how are you doing?
	What radio were you on today?
	Mine!
	Yeah, here.
	You were here?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We got him to read the incredibly impressive curriculum vitae of Jake Sullivan.
	Not perfect.
	How about that guy?
	How much longer is Jake Sullivan going to have a job?
	What do we think?
	What's he over under?
	I don't know.
	Have they fired anybody?
	Who have they fired?
	They haven't fired anybody.
	They will.
	They'll have to.
	Someone's going to take the fall.
	Like that guy you touted on MSNBC, the Zellner or whatever his last name is.
	Max Zeller.
	Yeah, he called out Sullivan.
	In that same interview, he said, why does Jake Sullivan still have a job at this point?
	Did you happen to see that CNN woman, that she got threatened with being pistol, her producer was threatened with being pistol whipped today?
	No.
	Okay, so you know, so Clarissa Ward is her name.
	She's a CNN correspondent, international correspondent.
	She was the one who was dressed normally on Sunday in a burka on Monday.
	Tuesday said that they're chanting death to America, but they seem nice.
	And then today, I guess they started shooting into the crowd where they were standing.
	And some Taliban people came up and said that they were going to pistol whip her producer.
	And somebody came around and stopped him and said, they're journalists.
	They're journalists.
	Leave him alone.
	10 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
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	Remember the micromachines, man?
	The Micromachines, man.
	Who is the Micromachines, man?
	I can't believe you don't remember this.
	We're kind of in the same area of age.
	We are.
	We're both very young.
	You're much older than I am.
	It's a bit.
	It's a bit.
	Right, it's a bit.
	But the Micromachines were these little tiny race cars that all the boys had or, you know, whatever we call them now.
	Like Hot Wheels.
	Yeah, like Hot Wheels, except they were really tiny.
	And the Micro Machine Man was like a speed talker, and he'd just all the way through.
	And later in life, after Micro Machines, he did a lot of those, like MLS number commercials.
	He would do a lot of the fine print in radio and TV ads.
	All right.
	Chad, get on the microman.
	I want to hear some microman here on radio.
	But in the meantime... Useless information for you today.
	No!
	We love it!
	It's pop culture.
	We love it.
	But in the meantime, we have teased this incredible video cut from a nurse who has decided to take action.
	She's had enough of the vaccine fascists.
	And in front of the county supervisor's meeting in San Diego, she did the following.
	Play cut nine.
	Hi, my name is Heather Cobble and I'm a registered nurse here in San Diego.
	I actually resigned from my job yesterday as a registered nurse because of this state mandate to be vaccinated.
	I was no problem working in the healthcare system over the last 18 months without a vaccine.
	But now, all of a sudden, I'm a threat to public health?
	Tell me where this makes sense.
	All of you sitting up here with your masks on, you know that those masks don't do anything.
	As a healthcare provider, we are taught how to use PPE.
	We're taught universal precautions, and we know how to implement them when we're dealing with patients who have a viral infection.
	I don't understand how you guys don't see the bigger picture here.
	What you're doing is you're creating a healthcare crisis.
	We already have a nursing shortage in America.
	So now, in San Diego County, I know for a fact there's several hospitals that are operating on an all-bed crisis.
	You know why we're doing that?
	Wilma, do you know why?
	Because we have a healthcare shortage.
	A healthcare nursing shortage, excuse me.
	And you know that.
	These numbers are skewed.
	The testing is skewed.
	This needs to stop.
	I don't understand.
	Nathan, you can't even look at anybody when they're up here speaking.
	It's so rude.
	So rude.
	I love it when she calls him out by name.
	Heather, get Heather on this show!
	Gee, Mr. G, we've got to get her.
	Isn't that just inspiring, Jennifer?
	She thank God for first of all our health care workers and the ones who are still willing to stand up and you know what she's not alone in the state.
	I'm so I get excited when I get to tell you some good news about California really fighting back but this last weekend the state was filled with protests from San Diego where she was all the way up to Northern California of health care workers and of parents who were fighting back against the vaccine mandate and the mask mandate because
	In California, Gavin Newsom has made it that every child, every school worker must wear a mask, must get tested weekly for COVID, and if you're a teacher, you must be vaccinated in California public schools.
	Now, that's one piece of all of this, but you also have hospitals now saying that if nurses want to have a job, if healthcare workers, doctors, you have to to work in a hospital.
	Have a vaccine.
	Even if you work at a call center or an administrative office where you're not coming into contact with patients, you must have a vaccine.
	So there were protests over the weekend.
	Hundreds and thousands of Californians coming out and saying that we are supposed to thank our health care workers for getting us through the first wave of the pandemic.
	And our thanks to them is now that they are going to be fired and losing their jobs because they choose not to get a vaccine.
	What country are we living in?
	And even in California, where we say that sometimes it feels like the state is lost, there were a ton of, and I'm happy to say women, mostly women, who are out there protesting on behalf of the nurses, on behalf of the teachers, and on behalf of their children.
	And it was a statewide thing this past weekend, and I'm hopeful that it's going to continue all the way through at least September 14th on the date of our recall election.
	Let's talk about the recall.
	Nicely done.
	That's, I think, a transition in the trades.
	It's like I'm a pro.
	Is it true that we are just a couple of points away, potentially, from recalling Gruesome Newsome?
	It's not even a couple of points anymore.
	I mean, this thing is so Whisper close.
	There are new polls that have come out.
	CBS just did a poll, and it shows that Gavin Newsom is winning by four points, but the margin of error is four points.
	So in looking at all these surveys, I went to RealClearPolitics to see what their average is, because a lot of people do polls that maybe we don't always see the results of.
	They have Gavin Newsom being recalled by a half a percent.
	They have Larry Elder up by 10 points.
	That's the RealClearPolitics average as of yesterday.
	This is real.
	Newsom is really afraid.
	Up in terms of the replacement candidates?
	All the other competitors.
	So, if that's the case, and we saw how tetchy he got last week, what do you expect Grewsom to do in the last couple of weeks?
	What's he going to pull out?
	What bribery of the voters is he going to attempt again?
	Well, there's a lawsuit.
	Did you hear about this?
	Tell our listeners.
	So a professor, UC Berkeley professor, came out last week and wrote a piece about how the recall was unconstitutional.
	So two Californians, without any ties to Gavin Newsom, wink wink, decided that one of them was a lawyer, filed a lawsuit saying that this was unconstitutional.
	And I won't go through the whole argument because it gets in the weeds, but basically it says, That if Gavin Newsom beats the recall, I'm sorry, if he loses the recall, let's say he gets 48 percent of the vote, not enough to beat the recall.
	So he's out as governor.
	And let's say Larry Elder, who's the lead candidate, wins the whole thing with 28 percent of the vote.
	He has a plurality, not a majority.
	And they say that that makes it unconstitutional.
	Now, it really does depend on the judge.
	This is an Obama judge that took this case last week and it was done quietly so that the media and the other candidates wouldn't be able to start contributing and get involved with this case.
	So I'm hopeful that this is going to stop it in its tracks.
	It seems like a dumb argument.
	There is precedent in the state.
	We have done recall after recall, not just for governors, but for city council, for assembly.
	This has been going on for years in California, and we've been operating under this system.
	So to me, there's legal precedence, but you never know.
	I mean, Gavin Newsom, you've got a secretary of state who was appointed by Gavin Newsom, an attorney general appointed by Gavin Newsom.
	How hard are they going to fight against him in this?
	Come on guys, you know what you have to do.
	Follow the money.
	There's got to be a connection between this quote-unquote professor and the people bringing the case and the incumbent governor.
	Some industrious journalist out there will find out the truth.
	In the meantime, follow this lady at Jennifer Horne, host of the Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, the answer is crntalk.com.
	Guys, it's up to you.
	It's up to Californians.
	Let's make it happen.
	God bless.
	Thank you, Jennifer.
	Your calls next here on America First.
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	Mic's on.
	Got to post to Nurse.
	Why does Nurse Heather have more balls than most Republicans?
	Let's try and track her down and ask Jennifer's help.
	She might be able to help us.
	Do you want to come in with the Food for the Poor audio?
	1A and horn.
	What was it?
	More balls than what?
	Most Republicans?
	Most Republicans.
	Yes, please, John.
	And ask Jen if she can help you track her down.
	Oh, I need to change my... Yeah, the one from yesterday.
	How much time?
	Two minutes, 20 seconds.
	Two minutes.
	Two minutes.
	Are you putting John in charge of the Starship warp drive?
	Okay.
	Whoa.
	No pressure, John.
	It's only three million people.
	It's okay.
	Thanks, Captain Kirk.
	Aye, Scotty!
	You don't like Star Trek, do you, John?
	He's a huge science fiction fan, aren't you, John?
	I watched it as a kid with my dad after he got back from work.
	I'd usually watch a couple episodes of Star Trek.
	What a solid guy.
	As a kid.
	As a kid was a disclaimer.
	I watch them now, they're fun.
	Were you ever a kid, Geoff?
	Yeah, why would I watch Star Wars?
	Or Star Trek?
	Because it's fun!
	Why is it fun?
	I can't believe you don't know who the Micro Machine Man is.
	I've been living here for 13 years, okay?
	I was 37 when I arrived here.
	That's the new generation 45 seconds I can't believe you don't know who the Micro Machine Man is I've been growing up here dude I've been living here for 13 years okay I was 37 when I arrived here I didn't play with Micro Man when I was 37 No it was just a commercial He's the voice guy for toys commercials.
	I understand that.
	Kind of sounds like a podcaster for the Daily Wire.
	All right, standing by.
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	Families who lost their homes are now sleeping on nearby soccer fields.
	And now, Tropical Storm Grace is forecast to hit Haiti, bringing punishing rain that could lead to flash flooding and new mudslides.
	Yet another blow to a country in crisis.
	Tropical Storm Grace.
	A 7.2 Richter scale earthquake, a presidential assassination, and general economic malaise.
	That's the situation not far from our border in Haiti.
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	So Biden is back in the White House and he's giving a speech on vaccines.
	Why are they forcing everybody to get vaccinated?
	I don't get this.
	So I have my list of articles here and it turns out that Greg Abbott, who has fully vaccinated multiple shots, has come down with the coronavirus and now they want people to get boosters.
	Well, what if the vaccines aren't working?
	What if they have deleterious effects?
	For thousands of people that otherwise would not have those negative side effects.
	Surely, just as with abortion, it should be a question of my body, my choice.
	I guess that doesn't apply, except if it's an abortion.
	Let's go to your calls.
	The number here is 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Waiting very, very patiently in Cleveland.
	Derek, welcome aboard.
	Thank you for your patience.
	No problem.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, for taking my call.
	I wanted to ask about another possible consequence of the Taliban retaking Afghanistan there.
	I know that most of the opium poppies are in Afghanistan.
	Do we know how that opium cultivation, that production, is going to be affected now with this change?
	Well now, because they will be running the government writ large, they will be able to do it even more effectively.
	They can industrialize the production of opium because it's not the Taliban regional warlord in a given province.
	They will be able to bring the might to bear of the federal government as they control it.
	On top of that, and it's not, I mean, your question is a really good one.
	It's not just the Taliban's profits to be made from the opium trade.
	It's everything else that's going to happen.
	Pakistan is going to be funneling assets into Afghanistan to help them outmaneuver India.
	And we already know China is recognizing the Taliban government.
	China has a deal they already bought.
	Under our, incredibly under our aegis, they bought the biggest copper mine in the world in Afghanistan.
	And now they're going to come in for all the other rare earth minerals.
	So it's a disaster.
	This will end up the Taliban regime now, not just running half of the country, but the whole of Afghanistan.
	We'll be the best funded militant jihadi theocracy the world has seen.
	I mean, Iran, thanks to the Trump administration and our swinging sanctions, was brought to its knees.
	They're going to be, of course, liberated from those by this administration when the Iran deal I have to get serious.
	kicks in once more.
	But in the meantime, the Taliban, they're already there.
	They already control the government to look at all the assets.
	It's not just our not just our weapons, but it's also everything else that they will be doing to cut deals with China, with Pakistan and everybody else.
	Thank you for the great call and thank you for your patience back to your calls momentarily.
	But first, I have to get serious.
	Why?
	Because things could get worse here at home, not just in Afghanistan.
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	We'll be back with your calls in a moment.
	All right, I'm going to tee up cut eight.
	Cut 8.
	Copy that.
	Yes.
	Oh, can you come in with Cut 4?
	4, the boss.
	Then I'll tee up.
	No liners or anything, Shad?
	Wait for that disclaimer!
	There is a disclaimer, okay.
	I cannot believe he's doing a speech on the vaccine.
	The whole speech is about COVID.
	He's not talking Afghanistan at all.
	So he flew back from Camp David to give that speech?
	Yeah, and he's still doing it now.
	It's all about the vaccines.
	It's unbelievable.
	Possible Q&A, they said.
	Yeah, right.
	They'll ask about vaccines.
	Two minutes.
	Is it disgustingly hot?
	Today?
	Yeah.
	It wasn't so bad today.
	I mean, it's been raining all week.
	Today, it's only 86 right now.
	Poor drain in the middle of the day.
	Are you still wearing your plastic jacket?
	No, they both got drenched in the rain, so they're in the wash right now.
	It was, I remember, walking back on Friday.
	Why do you have to put a plastic jacket in the wash after a rainstorm?
	That's a little confusing.
	I wish I had a jacket today.
	So, I had to go sit in a cold office and get blood.
	That's a really good thing to do.
	It's good for your body.
	Well, that's why I did it, too.
	Yeah, it gets rid of the, um, oxygen.
	The, um, what do they call it?
	Not oxygen, the opposite.
	Anyway, it's good for your body.
	My blood was too high, anyway.
	What do you mean, too high?
	My blood count, RBC count.
	Oh, wow.
	Did you go to the Red Cross?
	Yes.
	And it took a long time?
	It took forever, yeah.
	This, that, register, first time, had to do this, get my rapid pass.
	You had to fill out a lot of forms, right?
	Yeah, answer a hundred different questions.
	In the 80s, did I ever live in Ireland for at least five years?
	They've got every question in the world.
	Do you like science fiction like all the cool kids?
	That's a false statement, though.
	False question.
	Cool kids, science fiction.
	That's a trick question.
	Leading question.
	It's a misleading question.
	Oh, what a great, great tweet.
	Sign in a store.
	Mask no longer required.
	Unless you have a face like Nancy Pelosi.
	In that case, keep it on.
	Coming in with Cut 4. Portions of America First are brought to you in part by American Financing. -
	I will say when China watches this, they're so happy and they're laughing at us.
	They're laughing.
	I extracted billions and billions of dollars out of China.
	Never happened.
	We never got 10 cents from China.
	Billions and billions.
	They were so happy to see a rigged election.
	They might have helped it along, actually, but they were so happy.
	He said it.
	He said it.
	A rigged election.
	Another clip from that superb interview with President Trump, who may or may not be coming on our show very, very soon.
	Stay tuned.
	You don't want to miss our exclusive interview with my former boss, President Trump.
	We will give you details momentarily.
	We're going to go to your calls in a second.
	Thank you to everybody waiting so very, very patiently.
	But, but if you didn't hear the news yesterday, Second day of his cyber symposium, Mike Lindell was attacked by a crazy leftist at his hotel.
	They chose the wrong guy and Mike fought back, but they did try to assault him.
	Let's show Mike some love.
	Let's support him.
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	Our good friend J.R.
	in Columbus, Ohio.
	J.R., welcome to America First.
	Hey, Dr. G. I had no idea that happened to Mike.
	I'm going to buy Not only two pillows, but sheets as soon as I get home.
	Thank you.
	Seriously, this is a one way, you know, if you're never going to meet Mike, if you're never going to shake his hand, this is one way to say thank you.
	Even if it's just one of his pillows or like the Geezer Dream sheets, send a message and thank you very much for committing on air in front of millions of people to doing that, JR.
	Yes, sir.
	Roger that.
	OK, so I have never seen A complete difference between leadership other than Trump and Biden.
	Can you tell me any other difference in this country and history?
	Wow.
	From one, you mean from one administration to another?
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Carter and Reagan.
	Oh, agreed.
	I agree.
	You're flipping it.
	So you've got you're going from good to bad.
	In this case, back then it was bad to good.
	But but a stark, stark comparison.
	I think that's a good comparison.
	Well, bless your heart.
	And I can't wait to push that button for Mike.
	And I will send prayers to Mike.
	And God bless all of you.
	Yeah, he got a little bit roughed up.
	Let's send prayers.
	Let's support him.
	That's more important than anything else.
	If you can order something from MyPillow.com like JR's going to do right now, please do that.
	If you can't, if you're in hard times, we're going to pray for you.
	But please say a prayer for him as well.
	Joe in Illinois, waiting patiently.
	Welcome to America First, Joe.
	Hey, Dr. G.
	So nice to hear your voice here in the western suburbs of Chicago.
	How are you doing that?
	Yeah, we're okay.
	I'm listening on 560, and I believe that the suburban women that voted for Biden are regretting it right now.
	What a cluster you-know-what over in Afghanistan.
	And I think we have three blind mice running our country.
	Cam Smella and Ms.
	Pelosi.
	Yeah, it's the question I had today.
	I put the survey out on my Twitter feed.
	If you voted for Joe Biden, do you have any regrets now?
	Your call is perfectly timed.
	I forgot about this seven hours ago.
	I put this out on Twitter.
	I've already had almost 3,000 responses, so I guess there are some Democrats out of the million people who follow me on Twitter.
	Guess what the percentages are?
	Here's the question.
	A poll for anyone who really voted for Biden.
	Okay, none of the fake mail-in ballots.
	Do you regret voting for him?
	Here are the responses in seven hours.
	83% of respondents said yes.
	Only 17 said no.
	If you're one of the 17, seriously, get psychiatric help.
	Thank you for your call.
	One more cut I have to play to you to explain how we are where we are today, because it's not just a Democrat problem.
	It's not just an American problem.
	It is international.
	The woke brigade is everywhere.
	There's a guy called Nick Carter, General Nick Carter, who is the most senior military officer in the UK.
	Our buddies across the Atlantic He's the Mark Milley of the UK Defence Staff in more ways than one.
	And this is what he just said on Sky News about the lovely guys in the Taliban.
	Play cuts.
	And how do you feel about collaborating with the enemy when they have carried out such atrocities against UK military personnel over the years?
	I think you have to be very careful using the word enemy.
	I think people need to understand who the Taliban actually are.
	And of course what they are, a disparate collection of tribespeople.
	As President Karzai put it to me only yesterday, they're country boys.
	And the plain fact is that they happen to live by a code of honour and a standard, which has been their standard for many, many years.
	It's called Pashtun Wali.
	It has honour at the heart of what they do.
	They are bound together by a common purpose, which is they don't like corrupt governance.
	They don't like governance that is self-serving.
	And they want an Afghanistan that is inclusive for all.
	So I think rather than talking about... Except women.
	What?
	Except women.
	Well, again, I think we have to wait and see.
	I mean, I don't know what they mean.
	We can't support the way that they treat women.
	Surely.
	Well, I think you have to listen to what they're saying at the moment.
	And I think you have to listen to the facts on the ground.
	They're saying that you have to abide by Sharia law.
	Yeah, and I'm not saying that's anything that you and I would approve of, particularly.
	I'm just trying to find that.
	Absolutely.
	But I do think that they have changed.
	I think they recognise that over the course of the last 20 years, Afghanistan has evolved.
	They recognise the fundamental role that women have played in that evolution.
	And yes, they, at the moment, will undoubtedly say that they want to respect women's rights under Islamic law, and that will be a Sharia law, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they won't allow them to be involved in government and in education and in medicine and those things that they need them to be involved in.
	So I think we have to be patient.
	We have to give them the space to show how they are going to step up to the plate.
	That clown, the most senior military officer in the UK, called the Taliban a bunch of country boys with their own sense of honour.
	Like the Dukes of Hazzard, I guess.
	Decapitating people they disagree with and using rape against women institutionally is No, I guess it's just cultural.
	Right, General Carter?
	You absolute clown and you coward.
	What you did there was cowardice.
	It's international.
	He's the British version of Mark Minnie.
	And Churchill would have had you horse-whipped, Nick Carter.
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	All right.
	Who is that general, by the way?
	He's the Mark Milley.
	He's the chairman of the defense staff.
	He is the most senior military officer in the UK.
	Literally, when you sent that afterwards, I watched.
	I'm like, I don't know why China just doesn't invade everywhere now.
	It's like, what are you waiting for?
	Why?
	What?
	What?
	China just doesn't invade everywhere right now.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's like Russia can take the British and China can take the US.
	Can you get Cassio to post that?
	Here's the Mark Milley of the Brits.
	the woman was pushing back on the horsewhip comment i like yeah um country boys the here's the mark milley of the brits a man who would have been a horse whipped by winston churchill for these words oh um tomorrow we're having that uh conference call with the merch guy Okay, what time?
	11.
	Do you want to be on that?
	Yes, definitely.
	What's it about, anyway?
	He's taking it all over.
	So, new merch ideas and how quickly we change them.
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	We got a good idea.
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	Alright.
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	Right.
	Everything's blocked, right?
	Yes.
	Want to use any more cuts?
	What's the cut you don't have?
	He's got it.
	I have all of them now, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	I think we played it already, the Maria Bartiromo one.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I like that.
	I like that, Geoff.
	Someone sent me two of those.
	Oh, nice!
	Alright, ten seconds.
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	But let's listen to the man who allegedly is a general, but he's more of a snowflake, Mark Milley, on the situation in Afghanistan.
	Cut six.
	Chairman Milley, if the service chiefs were ordered to evacuate our Afghan allies today, Is there a plan in place to get that started immediately?
	We have the military capability to do whatever is directed by the President of the United States with respect to our allies and those that have worked with us.
	And I consider it a moral imperative to take care of those that have served along our side.
	So why aren't you doing it?
	That was in June.
	That was on Capitol Hill.
	You said we have the capabilities to do whatever needs to be done for our American citizens or our allies or those who fought with us.
	So why isn't it happening?
	Is it maybe because this administration are such rank incompetence, such arrogant rank incompetence, that they can't even tell us, the U.S.
	taxpayer, Whether there are 11,000 Americans in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, or whether it's 40,000 Americans, you can't airlift them, you hack, coward, snowflake, fake general, if you don't know how many there are to airlift.
	Those people are falling off the fuselage of your military aircraft.
	You are an embarrassment.
	No, you are a disgrace to the uniform you wear.
	You don't deserve to be a PFC, let alone a four-star general.
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	The End Under his agreement, U.S.
	forces would be out of Afghanistan by May 1, 2021, just a little over three months after I took office.
	U.S.
	forces had already drawn down during the Trump administration from roughly 15,500 American forces to 2,500 troops in country.
	And the Taliban was at its strongest militarily since 2001.
	1. Amen.
	A stunning, stunning presidential press conference, although it was less of a conference and more of a shirking of responsibility after the fall of Kabul.
	The president of the United States blaming everyone except himself and his administration and then leaving the podium, not taking any questions and returning to Camp David for the rest of his vacation to analyze the geopolitical twists and turns of the last few days and weeks and what it means for not just American politics but for the world writ large.
	He's a regular guest but he is joining us for our one-on-one special.
	It is a delight.
	It's an honor always to have him with us.
	He's the author of A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America.
	Lord Conrad Black, welcome to One on One.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Thank you for having me.
	Lord Black, where to begin?
	You've written seminal works on not just my former boss, President Trump, but on President Nixon, on Roosevelt as well.
	What you have seen in the last few days in America, was it what you expected from this administration and what could be the broader ramifications going forward?
	It's been, I'm afraid, worse than I expected, and as we discussed in previous programs, Sebastian, I wasn't brimming over with high expectations for this administration.
	I wish them well, as one does any incoming administration.
	You always hope whoever is at the head of the United States does well, because so much depends on it.
	But this spectacle of the The concertina effect, as the English would say, where it was going to be a real battle for Taliban to take over, and it wasn't at all clear that they could ever do that.
	And then it became a matter of shrinking deadlines.
	And then in 72 hours, everything just vanished.
	I mean, this has been a terribly ludicrous and tragic And it is hanging around the neck of the president like a toilet seat.
	He can, as you say, try and pass off to anybody else, others, anyone, starting with his predecessor, the responsibility for this debacle, but it is entirely his.
	I mean, the fact is the former president had an arrangement and he was shrinking the American forces there, but it was always conditional on certain conduct by the Taliban, and there had been no American fatalities for 18 months.
	You know, and I hate to mention this, but in the United States, almost all the big cities have a number of shooting deaths every weekend.
	There was nothing like that in Afghanistan for 18 months for the American forces there.
	And so there was a sort of an understanding that was generally being adhered to.
	And then when Biden abruptly said, well, we're taking out everything, And not just the 15,000 contractors that were helping Afghanistan operate their air force and other necessary military functions.
	Everything just collapsed like a succurrence.
	And I would have thought with his experience in the Obama administration and the fiasco when they abruptly and in a rather churlish way left Iraq and ISIS suddenly arose and they had to come back, that he would have been on guard against that kind of a thing.
	But I agree with you.
	It was extremely ungracious for him to try and mislead the country about what Trump had agreed to do.
	And he also produced this false alternative.
	He had to, as he would imply yesterday, get out completely or reinforce the forces that were there and continue the war for 5 or 10 or 20 years.
	That wasn't his choice at all.
	He didn't have to put in any more forces.
	He was determined to withdraw them.
	He could have withdrawn them on a gradual basis, so it was an orderly handover.
	But now it has been anti-publicized.
	Trump had 2,500, but the Allied total was 10,000, counting the Dutch and the others.
	And they were left high and dry.
	And now he's putting back 6,000 to try and get whatever it is, 2,000 or 3,000 Americans and their so-called allies who've been treated disgracefully.
	I mean, the Afghans who helped the NATO forces are, as everyone knows, in great peril.
	And they were subjected to an absurd bureaucratic procedure of multiple forms and applications all over the place.
	These people have risked everything for their collaboration with the United States and its allies, and it is terribly late to try and extract them now, since many of them are in Taliban-occupied areas.
	I mean, it has been an utter disgrace.
	And I must say, I expected the proportions of the disgrace being as great as they are, that he'd announced that he'd fired the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, at least.
	I mean, it's been a military botch-up, an intelligence botch-up, The buck does stop at him, but I didn't expect him to resign.
	Though in the parliamentary system, he would have lost a vote of confidence.
	He'd be out.
	But, you know, it's a different system.
	I understand that.
	And I see, and Rasmussen is not a particularly favorable polling organization for the Democrats, but I see his confidence rating has dropped 10 points.
	And I would suspect that all the polls will show that, and it may be more than 10 points.
	I mean, in this horrible gesture, so graphically Trump is not the problem.
	Biden has brought not only shame on the United States, but has raised really serious doubts about his capacity to lead.
	And that's not a partisan statement.
	Trump is not the problem.
	Biden has brought not only shame on the United States, but has raised really serious doubts about his capacity to lead.
	And that's not a partisan statement.
	I know some Democrats who are so shocked that they can't honestly state that they have confidence that he's capable of governing. - Okay.
	Lord Black, it is remarkable to consider that we are less than eight months into this administration.
	Some have compared it to Carter, to the malaise, to the lack of geopolitical now sense that led to the I think they're unjust.
	Others, of course, with those seminal photographs of Saigon and the helicopters above the airport in Bagram have compared this to Nixon in Saigon.
	As an author of a biography of Nixon, as somebody who understood what happened to America in the 1770s, are these parallels too early?
	Or should we be already thinking about the comparison to prior presidential administrations?
	I think they're unjust.
	As you know, President Ford was the president when Saigon fell.
	But it only fell because the Democratic Congress cut off all aid to South Vietnam to ensure that the war that the Democrats began couldn't manage properly, then stabbed their own leader, Lyndon Johnson, in the back.
	And Mr. Nixon had saved their war for them.
	They couldn't tolerate the idea that that would succeed.
	So They put Vietnam over the side, but even at that, between the signing of the peace agreement in January of 1973 and the fall of Saigon was 15 months.
	I mean, it wasn't intended to be a decent interval, but it was a respectable interval, considering that the Congress shut off all aid to Vietnam, and the Watergate crisis was so serious, and the executive authority of the administration was evaporating every day, so Nixon couldn't return to bombing.
	If you'll recall, the Great Offensive of the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong launched in April of 1972 between Mr. Nixon coming back from China and then going to the Soviet Union.
	The South Vietnamese won that.
	Now, they had heavy air support, but no ground support.
	They had heavy air support from the U.S., but they won.
	They defeated the North and they defeated the Viet Cong.
	The calculation of President Nixon, as he told me himself and Henry Kissinger, was that If, as they expected, the North Vietnamese violated the agreement, they could resume bombing and the same equation would take over.
	The South Vietnamese could hold their own on the ground and ultimately win with heavy American air support, which would be provided.
	Now, because of other factors, that didn't happen.
	But that was at least a serious effort by the United States to repurpose the war effort handed over to the Vietnamese, and Mr. Nixon succeeded in extracting the U.S.
	from that war while retaining a non-communist government in Saigon.
	And neither he nor Ford were responsible for what happened after that.
	They were very damaging photographs of the helicopters taking off, desperate people clinging to the runners and so on.
	But as a practical matter, it was a respectable performance by the administration.
	And in the case of Carter, I mean, he was a very indecisive man in some ways, but he wasn't responsible for fiasco on this scale.
	He's certainly blameworthy in the fall of the Shah, but the Shah is blameworthy in the fall of the Shah also.
	I mean, just to go into a country and then, in a sort of churlish moment, pack up everything and leave that country absolutely vulnerable.
	Jimmy Carter didn't do that.
	He never did anything like that.
	And when he felt he was betrayed in Afghanistan, as he was, you know, he canceled participating in the Moscow Olympics.
	He supplied the Mujahideen, who were now occupying President's Palace in Kabul, with the over-the-shoulder rockets to bring down the Russian helicopters.
	And in the end, Jimmy Carter really taught the Russians a lesson.
	He wasn't reelected.
	and wasn't in office when the Russians finally threw in the towel in Afghanistan.
	But I would say that it is not fair to either Carter or Nixon or Ford to compare anything that they did with this absolute, utter, horrible shambles that has occurred in the last few weeks and very much in the last few days in Afghanistan.
	We're talking to the author of Richard Nixon, a life in full.
	Lord Black, in that case, you've just said that we cannot compare the events of the last few days either to Saigon or even to Jimmy Carter.
	As somebody who is a peer of the British upper house, as somebody who is a Canadian as well, What are the international ramifications of what we have just seen, when you're blaming our allies, our partners in the country, prior administrations, when already the media organs of the Chinese communist state are saying, quote-unquote, headlines, Biden will surrender Taiwan next.
	How concerned are you, as an observer of presidential politics, that there will be very, very serious ramifications?
	I'm very concerned.
	And I think the parallel there is with the Bay of Pigs.
	President Kennedy was fearful of the fiasco at the Bay of Pigs, a few months after it was inaugurated in 1961, would embolden the Soviet Union.
	And it's precisely what happened.
	And they, you know, they, they, we now know that they had short range nuclear missiles already deployed on the launcher, before it was discovered by US intelligence.
	They had 40,002 whole divisions of Soviet armed forces in Cuba, in country.
	And they'd been there for some months before American intelligence detected this right under their nose, eight minutes away in a jet aircraft from Miami.
	And he was afraid that it would embolden the Russians to do something impetuous, which is what happened.
	And of course, it all was settled very, I would say, in quite a statesmanlike manner.
	But But that sort of thing does encourage those who have an appetite to be aggressive.
	And if they think they're facing a vacuum, or facing a completely irresolute opponent, then it is extremely dangerous.
	And I mean, you know, we got all kinds of historical parallels for this.
	As Hitler himself said, after he saw Chamberlain and Daladier at Munich, he thought he could do anything he wanted.
	No matter what he said about his last territorial demands in Europe, he just kept on, as you know.
	He then seized Bohemia, and then the Memeland, and then invaded Poland.
	Well, I don't think we're going to get anything that bad.
	I still don't think that the Chinese will actually invade Taiwan, because that would be a very dangerous thing to do.
	The distance across the Formosa Strait is three times what it was to the Normandy beaches in 1944.
	The Chinese do not have an amphibious force that could move across that water quickly.
	And you can't parachute in anything like the number of people that they would need to win an engagement in Taiwan.
	But I think we'll get them turning up the pressure on Taiwan all the time.
	And there is certainly a tremendous credibility gap with this administration amongst its allies.
	I mean, I believe Boris Johnson, while he stayed well within the bounds of diplomacy, did, in an aside over the weekend, say something to the effect that this was not very good standard of leadership that the alliance leader was showing in this case.
	And that's nothing but the truth.
	So I think everybody is now either worried if they wish to resist particularly aggressive Chinese assertion of itself or, you know, licking their lips and thinking, you know, now it's our turn.
	We can really make a feast out of this if they are on the Chinese side in these things.
	So it's very worrisome.
	You use the word credibility, which is a prerequisite of effective statecraft.
	I'd like to take this opportunity just to remind, it seems like ancient history, the credibility of the Trump administration internationally.
	A speech that we were involved in, one of his seminal speeches, it wasn't State of the Union.
	It was his first address to a joint session of Congress very soon after he entered the White House.
	This is President Trump with a very different promise and then execution.
	This is back in 2017.
	This is President Trump cut to play cuts.
	I directed the Department of Defense to develop a plan to demolish and destroy ISIS, a network of lawless savages that have slaughtered Muslims and Christians and men and women and children of all faiths and all beliefs.
	We will work with our allies, including our friends and allies in the Muslim world, to extinguish this vile enemy from our planet.
	And Lord Black, that promise wasn't an empty statement.
	We had been told by his predecessor, Obama, ISIS is a threat we just have to get used to, a quote-unquote generational threat.
	Five months after that promise was made, the caliphate of ISIS was destroyed.
	Is that not... If we ignore the constant propaganda, the vituperation of the mainstream media, this is a man who made promises internationally and kept them.
	Absolutely.
	He was completely consistent.
	And in that particular case, ISIS arose because, I beg your pardon, because of, as we discussed a few minutes ago, the petulant, sudden departure from Iraq of the Obama administration because of a dispute over what would happen when American servicemen inadvertently broke Iraqi laws, like traffic laws and things like that.
	And which was an absurd pretext and the basis of which to simply clear out of the country after the tremendous incursion that the United States and its allies, numerous in that case, had already made there.
	And when ISIS arose suddenly and severely embarrassed and threatened the Baghdad regime, at least President Obama had the decency to realize that something had to be done.
	And there was a re-entry partially on the ground, but particularly with the application of air power.
	Unfortunately, as he announced this, President Obama also said, this is American leadership at its finest.
	President Roosevelt could have said that when he produced Lend-Lease.
	President Eisenhower could have said that when he produced Open Skies.
	President Kennedy could have said that over the Cuban Missile Crisis.
	President Nixon could have said it in his silent majority speech, or President Reagan in asking that the Berlin Wall be torn down.
	But generally, statesmen leave that to others to evaluate.
	They don't immediately rate their own statesman-like performance in quite such a laudatory term.
	If the United States takes the position that it has a right and will exercise the right to withdraw everybody That it feels it has a moral obligation to help lead the country and tells the Taliban publicly or privately not to interfere with that, that if they do, there will be grave consequences.
	But when that operation is completed, they will go and that will be the end of it and carries that out.
	It will, I think, at least erase the appalling impression left by these pictures over the weekend and on Monday of I don't think anyone can blame the United States for the strength of the Taliban in the country.
	pulling off the wheels of the airplanes and that sort of thing after they've taken off, it'll create a better, more orderly and dignified impression.
	I don't think anyone can blame the United States for the strength of the Taliban in the country.
	I think thereafter there will be an accounting politically within the United States for the abrupt manner in which they left.
	And it's all very well for, pardon me, for President Biden to say at his press conference on Monday, the so-called press conference, where he took no questions, that they weren't going to ask their people, the American armed forces, to fight for a population that wouldn't defend itself.
	I don't think that's fair.
	The Afghans took 50,000 dead in their armed forces.
	That's, you know, that's Almost as many as the United States took in Vietnam, more than it took in Korea, and many of them fought bravely.
	But when you suddenly take away their capacity to use their air force and make it clear you're just leaving and to hell with them, you can't entirely blame the lack of fighting instinct of the Afghan non-Taliban for that.
	And I think we've got something we can build on in Afghanistan if we play it sensibly.
	The West.
	As I understand it, 75% of the population is not above the age of 20, which means they don't remember the old days and would not consider a complete return to the earlier times, the pre 9-11 times, to be something that would be acceptable.
	Now, I accept that the Taliban are extremely authoritarian and totalitarian in nature and very savage, But if three quarters of the population disagrees with what they're doing, I think they would make some accommodation with that.
	So I think it's possible if the administration suddenly comes to its senses and starts to behave like a serious professional diplomatic and military operation and intelligence operation to salvage something.
	But the impression left by the last days of the old regime before the president fled was it was a terrible impression.
	In every respect and in the manner that you mentioned, it encourages America's enemies and discourages them.
	It's a big if we shall see.
	Here we have the man who bears the title President of the United States, doubling down as it were from his pseudo press conference on Monday.
	This is Joe Biden, cut six.
	So what's happened?
	Afghanistan political leaders gave up and fled the country.
	The Afghan military collapsed sometime without trying to fight.
	If anything, the developments of the past week reinforced that ending U.S.
	military involvement in Afghanistan now was the right decision.
	Incredible.
	Blaming the Afghan security forces and doubling down on his decision.
	We are talking to Lord Conrad Black.
	He is the co-host of the podcast Scholars and Sense with our other regular guests Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett.
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	Different the format we have here.
	I'm following the role model of that radio long-form master, John Batchelor.
	We have a longer time to talk to you.
	If we could just have a caesura for a moment for those who've just fallen on this by accident.
	tuned in because of a recommendation, found this on a video stream, who aren't familiar, I find, maybe they've been living in a cave for the last 50 years, but who aren't familiar with Lord Conrad Black, check out first his works, read his article, articles at AmericanGreatness.com, AmGreatness.com, and if I may put you on the spot, For purely selfish reasons, because I've always said, if I were ever to grow up, I would like to be like Lord Conrad Black.
	Let's try and categorize who you are.
	What are you, Lord Black?
	How do you describe yourself?
	Because you have lived so many different lives and been such a success in various different industries.
	For those who are just tuning in now, please say a few words about how you, what is your own taxonomy?
	Look, you flatter me very much, Sebastian.
	My career is not so unusual as that, but I was for a long time in the newspaper business, and many of our titles would be familiar to most of your viewers.
	The Daily Telegraph, and Sunday Telegraph, and Spectator in England, and the Chicago Sun-Times, Jerusalem Post, and most of the newspapers in Canada and Australia, and some of them were very good newspapers.
	But my misfortune was that I saw that the industry that I liked and had some aptitude for was not a growth industry.
	And once I got a good look at the Internet, I departed that industry and went back to my previous occupation of finance.
	And that's what I do now.
	I invest for my own account, private companies.
	It's quiet.
	It doesn't get any publicity and doesn't deserve any publicity, but it's a profitable occupation.
	But my other occupation is I'm a historian, as you kindly mentioned.
	I've written a number of books, and I'm writing another one now.
	And some people kindly invite me to comment in the United States and in Britain and Canada, and I do.
	So I write, as you said, in American Greatness, The Ill, Epoch Times, and sometimes other places.
	And so it's a varied life and an interesting one for me, but it doesn't, I'm afraid, deserve quite the much appreciated, but I think perhaps slightly generous, praise that you give it.
	I will stand by it because for me it is an exemplar of something that is very rare, a renaissance man.
	I cannot think of others off the top of my head who are incredibly successful publishers, historians, financiers and commentators all wrapped into one.
	Lord Black, given your incredible influence on media on both sides of the Atlantic in recent decades, do you think there are signs after
	Biden Saigon or the collapse of Kabul that the honeymoon is truly over when I as Rapidly left-wing it used to be good about 20 years ago But when as a rapidly left-wing and a magazine like the Atlantic comes out with sharpened incisors for Biden on Monday or Tuesday isn't that indicative of a potential trend I think so and I took it upon myself to look at
	CNN on Monday night, and much to my amazement, Don Lemon was really very critical of Biden.
	And you remember it was only a few weeks ago when they set up that television event between themselves, where he went as far as anyone could to make Biden look good, to lob up, as in a basketball game rather than a baseball game, softball questions.
	For the president, and he was, I have to say, quite mordant in his criticism at times on Monday night.
	So I think what we're getting is something that a number of us, including, I think, both of us predicted, that the press, the political media of the United States is 95% hostile to Trump.
	And so they are, you know, by virtue of that, they're pro-Biden.
	But with varying degrees of genuine enthusiasm.
	But as they see the administration floundering, this disaster in Kabul being the latest example of a series of setbacks, the shambles on the border, this ludicrous spectacle of the Homeland Security Secretary saying the border is closed.
	Well, you can see on Fox News and elsewhere, people just coming across in large groups constantly over water and over land.
	And, you know, they're just pouring into the country.
	And, you know, the terrible crime rates and now the inflation dangers, you're not going to get the media to go down with that ship.
	I mean, they'll do their best.
	But when it's harmful to their survival as the holders of any credible franchise, they're not going to go down with a ship.
	They'll be first into the light boats and You know, the women and the children can take care of themselves, and we're starting to see some of that now.
	After the events of January the 6th, the obituary, the political obituaries came thick and fast for President Trump.
	He's dead and buried politically.
	He can't come back, I said, not so fast with the attempt to impeach him a second time out of office.
	I think that was the first strategic mistake of the Democrats, that overreach.
	Now we have this series of strategic blunders just seven months into the administration.
	As somebody who's written past histories of prior presidents, as somebody who's written a present history of the 45th president when he was still in the White House, what would be the sagacious, what would be the wise way President Trump to react to recent events?
	He's not allowed on social media.
	Does his tune change with regards to international affairs?
	What would you counsel should he call you up?
	Oddly enough, and I guess there's lots of precedent for historical initiatives producing exactly the opposite consequences to what is aimed for.
	But this imposed silence on Trump, as even he, I think, has acknowledged, has actually been somewhat to his benefit.
	I don't know how clearly aware he is of just how tiring and fatiguing a great many people felt his years as president were, even those who supported him.
	The Democrats have been allowed to stew in their own juice, and the focus, as it should be, is on the new administration and how are they doing.
	And as he has observed voluntarily or otherwise a comparative silence, the Democrats have been allowed to stew in their own juice.
	And the focus, as it should be, is on the new administration and how are they doing.
	And they're not doing very well.
	And so this takes people's attention away from what has been, as you know, Sebastian, we've often spoken of it, for the last five years.
	is the only argument the Democrats have had, which is Trump hate.
	I mean, even a couple of weeks ago, I was watching, I rarely do this, I was watching Don Lemon.
	All he could do was bring back takes for no plausible pretext in current affairs at all of past things that President Trump said and misrepresented them, such as that he had ever said that people should ingest Lysol to fight COVID.
	And he didn't say that.
	He said with the principle of cleaning up a cleanser on the on the affected place with the application of heat.
	It was there, he asked to the Surgeon General on camera, any possible application of that in this case.
	He didn't mean, as Nancy Pelosi and others said, get a bottle of Lysol or some similar product and and start drinking it.
	I mean, that's the kind of publicity he was getting.
	And when they can't go to that, when there's just absolutely no excuse for dragging it, nonsense like that, malicious nonsense, fiction, people focus on who is there now and how are they doing.
	And it doesn't take much concentration on those questions before you start saying, Well, you know, Trump actually did a number of things right, and these people are doing them wrong.
	He stopped the illegal immigration, and now it's worse than it's ever been, and so forth.
	And so I would say he is, today, he remains the only politician for whom scores of thousands of people would stand, if we were in colder part of the calendar, stand, you know, in the cold for hours waiting to hear him speak in person.
	I mean, he has a huge following, and it's not shrinking.
	It's a delusion and a wishful thought of the never-Trumpers and the Trump haters who are committed to the idea that he was a freakish, meteoric leader of the Republicans, but he's gone, and we'll never hear a word from him again.
	It's in their minds that his popularity is melting like an iceberg in the tropics.
	Not happening.
	And it's not going to be assisted in being melted by the kind of gong show that the people who replaced him are conducting.
	And the core to it is the Democrats and their media helpers have done everything possible and taken almost totalitarian measures to the extent one can in a fundamentally free country to stamp out the idea there was anything wrong with the last election.
	And, you know, were there 44 million mailed and dumped ballot floating around that weren't verifiably counted?
	You know, there's going to be some doubt about what happened, especially when 50,000 votes strategically placed in three states would have flipped the election.
	And so they're not going to succeed in stamping it out.
	So half the country says Trump is conducting the big lie saying it was a tainted election, and half is saying it was the crime of the century that they stole it.
	So they're not going to kill Trump.
	And meanwhile, they're weakening themselves.
	And they may flatter themselves with the idea that they killed Trump and they'll never be heard from again.
	But if the clock goes by in the way it has these seven months of an incompetent administration, no Republican is going to run for the nomination until Trump has been heard from.
	He will be back if he wants to come back.
	And in the meantime, these short press statements that he issues via his website, that is the way to go for the time being?
	I think they're very effective, and the interviews he gives with Sean Hannity and others that I've seen have been very effective.
	No bombast, no excess.
	I mean, you and I are, generally speaking, supporters of the former president, and he's been a friend of mine for more than 20 years.
	I think it's fair to say that we found some of his utterances ill-considered and counterproductive to his own interest, and not always appropriate for what a president should say.
	But with that said, precisely your comment just now is correct, I think.
	Just brief comments without any hyperbole, and the occasional big speech like at CPAC, for example, I think this is working for him.
	Follow those statements.
	He has his office now, the office of the 45th president of the United States.
	It's a different métier, it's a different frequency, but I do concur that it does work for him, especially given the current censorious environment we find ourselves in.
	In the meantime, also follow Lord Black at Conrad M. Black, the co-host of Scholars and Sense, the podcast, along with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett, and the author of a scintillating autobiography, A Matter of Principle.
	I have to play this cut.
	Just visually, even the reaction from the press corps, which has been in the past asking Biden about his favorite ice cream at press conferences, is very, very telling.
	This is the press conference after the fall of Kabul.
	This is how it ended.
	Cut seven, play cuts.
	Thank you.
	May God protect our troops, our diplomats, and all brave Americans serving in harm's way.
	Quite, quite stunning results.
	Zero questions and then screamed at by the White House Correspondents Association members.
	Lord Black...
	Could this possibly be a moment in time where many millions, perhaps, of Americans who deem themselves otherwise to be apolitical wake up and say, that's not exactly presidential, and maybe they have some buyer's remorse if they voted for this man?
	I think there will be some of that, and I think the latest polls show that.
	The only poll I've seen since the debacle in Kabul is the Rasmussen one, and it's not, as I mentioned, Before, I think it's not normally a particularly favorable poll for the Democrats, but it showed a drop of 10 points in approval for the president.
	So I imagine other polls will reflect that.
	It's been a levitation.
	They got in on a combination of Trump hate, outspending Trump two to one, 95% media support, 100% social media platform support, and some undetermined level of peculiar vote counting and voting.
	And with all of that, they squeaked in by a hair's breadth.
	If they'd taken off like a rocket and had a brilliant start, like Biden was always comparing himself implausibly to Franklin D. Roosevelt, if they had a start like that, then the position of the president would have solidified with performance backing up the There's a lot of hopes stoked up by this campaign of vilification of the former president.
	But as it is, it's been a rigorously incompetent and dishonest administration.
	I mean, they, you know, the Homeland Security says the border is closed.
	Well, right there on another channel is showing people live walking in great numbers into the United States illegally.
	And you have a repetition of these things.
	I mean, every question that Ms.
	Sackey fields on the subject of immigration, her answer begins with either that she will circle back or, in the alternative, we took over a badly broken system.
	Well, they didn't.
	They took over an immigration system that was in better condition than it had been in for 60 years.
	And so You'll get this tapering off, being able to frighten the country with these evocations of the dangers of Trump and a natural focus on, well, fine, Trump's gone now.
	How are you people doing?
	And unless they can really raise their game in a number of key areas, it's going to be a disaster for them.
	I mean, the response to the crime figures, which are shocking.
	I mean, there are lots of areas, big American cities, they're just no-go areas, they're shooting galleries.
	And, you know, as I said earlier, they haven't lost a person in Afghanistan, a war for 18 months, and you lose them in significant numbers every weekend in these big American cities.
	And they aren't servicemen after all, they're just civilians going about their business.
	So, you know, the contrast Between the denigration of the former administration, which as time passes looks better and better, and their failure to perform themselves is extremely dangerous.
	And there's no doubt that the powers that be in the Democratic Party realize that.
	I will say this, I don't blame the president for not wanting to take questions on Monday after giving the remarks he did.
	But I do blame him for being so inaccessible to serious encounters with the press, where it's a free exchange.
	The press, within reason, within respect of the presidency and the president himself, have a right to put any questions they want, no matter how hardball they are, instead of nonsense about ice cream and how they treat the dog and that kind of thing.
	I mean, he should do more of it.
	I mean, it is the custom to do more, and eventually his aversion to that is going to catch up with him also, including, I suspect, in the regard that the press has for him.
	I'm going to abuse my situation as my position as chair.
	He is, as far as I'm concerned, a famed publisher, accomplished historian and a financier, Lord Conrad Black.
	My final question to you, with your historian's hat on, is there any way, after the last seven months, that by the end of his four years in office, history will look kindly upon Joe Biden's presidency?
	There is.
	There is a way, but it is not likely.
	I think it would be the greatest turnaround that any president has had.
	Now, you know, we must remember that President Clinton took a terrible beating in the midterm elections.
	And as far as the public was concerned, looking back on him now, and for most of the time he was president, he's thought of as a pretty good president.
	I myself think he was maybe a little above average, but he wasn't a disaster.
	President Obama took a terrible beating in the midterm elections two years after his election.
	I don't think he was a successful president, but he is a substantial figure, a very intelligent man, obviously, and a popular political leader.
	So it can be done.
	I mean, you can start out badly and raise your game and do better.
	So it isn't over for Biden.
	He has a chance to be a successful president.
	But The first seven months have been, in my opinion, an almost unmitigated disaster, other than that the atmosphere has come down because of the controversy that was inherent in Trump's incumbency, and reflected by and largely provoked by the hostility of an unprofessional and generally dishonest press corps.
	All of that is gone, and you don't have this, just this Tremendous controversy all the time, every day, that you had with Trump.
	We shall see.
	In the meantime, read Lord Black's latest piece.
	We are posting it now on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	The more Biden fails, the more China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea will provoke America and its allies.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	You've been listening to One on One.

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