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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Taliban has full control of Afghanistan

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	We are also taking strong measures to protect our nation from radical Islamic terrorism.
	Thank you.
	According to data provided by the Department of Justice, the vast majority of individuals convicted of terrorism and terrorism-related offenses since 9-11 came here from outside of our country.
	We have seen the attacks at home, from Boston to San Bernardino to the Pentagon, and yes, even the World Trade Center.
	We have seen the attacks in France, in Belgium, in Germany, and all over the world.
	It is not compassionate, but reckless to allow uncontrolled entry from places where proper vetting cannot occur.
	That is leadership, dear friends.
	That is how it is done.
	From the 45th President of the United States, my former employer, President Donald John Trump.
	Welcome to America First on the Salem Radio Network with me, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	That was the first joint address of the Commander-in-Chief to Congress.
	And in it, he made a promise.
	First things first, I remember it so vividly.
	We had just started in the White House.
	The fake news industrial complex was already generating lies and propaganda about How this billionaire from Manhattan was going to show his true colors during the address, he was going to dilute the hard rhetoric of the campaign, he was going to be a squish on the threats to America, and he wasn't even going to use the phrase radical Islam.
	We just smiled a wry smile.
	Those of us who were involved with that speech's delivery.
	I myself, who had to walk into the office of the then National Security Advisor, General H.R.
	McMaster, and just to inform him that President Trump was serious during the campaign when he said our job is to crush radical Islam, the threat of radical Islamic terrorism, and that is exactly the language he would be using in his address to the joint session today.
	H.R.
	McMaster didn't react well.
	Well, that's a story for another day.
	The important thing is President Trump delivered.
	He gave a fabulous speech.
	It is a speech all of us, right now, in this vacuum of leadership, under the man who bears the title President, we should reinstill confidence in ourselves, in our nation, the greatest nation on God's Earth, by watching that speech, and perhaps one more, the one I consider to be President Trump's greatest speech, the one he gave in Warsaw.
	when he discussed the challenge of defending Judeo-Christian civilization.
	The President stood up in front of that address, to both houses, and he made a solemn promise.
	The threat that had been categorized by his predecessor is just something we have to get used to.
	Yes, Barack Obama, who helped facilitate the rise of ISIS, which dwarfed Al-Qaeda with his precipitous, his feckless, his churlish removal of our troops from Iraq far too early.
	He told us, after he'd helped create that threat by his lack of leadership, that the Islamic State was just something Americans had to get used to, a quote-unquote generational threat we'd have to live with.
	Not so much under our boss, President Trump.
	He came in and he declared holy hellfire and damnation on the caliphate that was burning our allies alive, beheading our citizens, and taking over multiple, multiple parts of the Middle East.
	And within five months, because of his leadership, because of the removal of the rules of engagement restrictions that the prior White House had put on our brave fighting men and women, the caliphate was gone.
	Within five months, the caliphate was gone.
	And what do we see now?
	We see a rudderless America.
	We see those images from Kabul, people trying to escape on our aircraft.
	The picture I posted yesterday, more than 600 Afghans inside one of our military aircraft coming to America.
	Much, much worse than Saigon, because this administration has only been in office for seven months.
	Now let's get some things clear, my friends.
	Very, very clear.
	I've had it with the lies, with the propaganda.
	The idea that what we are seeing in Kabul is, oh, it's the result of the Trump strategy and the Trump deal made with the Afghanis?
	Wrong.
	Lies.
	Damnable lies.
	Why?
	Oh, this is the first deal?
	Let's start with the history of the last seven months.
	So this is the first policy, the first deal?
	That the Biden administration is respecting and can't change?
	That's interesting because they tore up the XL Keystone pipeline the first day that Biden waddled into the office.
	He ripped up our sanctions against Russia and the Nord Stream pipeline to Germany.
	So I guess he can change deals.
	And in this case he's lying about the deal being Catastrophic withdrawal of our troops from Kabul.
	Only a cretin, only a moron, withdraws forces in the peak of the fighting season for the Afghan tribes.
	If you want to withdraw forces, you do it in the winter, when the passes are frozen, are flooded, or covered in snow.
	Not this administration.
	They're much smarter.
	They're much smarter than Alexander the Great, the British Empire, or the Soviets, who all tried to invade and occupy Afghanistan.
	It's a lie.
	And then as I was coming to the studio today, I heard the BBC World Service echoing the words of Ned Price and the State Department spokespeople saying, oh, we're unsure of the Taliban's future role in international affairs and how they will behave.
	And we do hope that they'll respect women.
	More imbeciles, cretins!
	Let me tell you how they're going to behave.
	I can tell you right now and you don't have to have a PhD from Harvard to know it.
	They're fundamental extremists to Harvard Al-Qaeda.
	They worked with ISIS.
	There's video, video online of ISIS training camps in Afghanistan under Obama.
	Oh, I wonder what kind of regime the Taliban's going to create.
	Really?
	It's gonna be a regime where women are chattel, where eight-year-old girls are married off to fat, toothless old men, where infidels and apostates aren't just killed, they are beheaded.
	It is a regime that right now, I guarantee you, right now, is reinvigorating, resuscitating all of its old allegiances with the international cartel of global jihadism.
	Whether it is al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS, or any of the others that aren't Shiite based.
	They are now chomping at the bit.
	They are rubbing their hands together in glee as they re-establish their training camps and their recruitment facilities across the new Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
	Incredible.
	Obama did it with Iraq and we got ISIS.
	Seven, seven, count them, seven months into this disastrous administration and the senile old cowardly man is doing it with Afghanistan.
	The nation from whence 9-11 was delivered to America's shores.
	If you voted for that man, It is on your hands as well, and I dearly hope you have buyer's remorse.
	All right, clear.
	Mics are on, and I believe we have someone in the studio.
	Hey, Eric, you gotta make the B-roll match what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, I, um, hang on, hang on.
	Uh, mic off.
	Mr. Hanson.
	Sebastian, how you doing, brother?
	Good, good, good, good.
	Can we get that hat off because we can't see you because of the camera?
	Oh, man.
	Because it's slightly... How about that?
	Okay, good.
	Good, good, good.
	Good, good, good.
	I saw it the last time.
	My head was shining so much.
	I was like, we can't... All right.
	That's a nice studio you got there, huh?
	It's not bad.
	It's not bad.
	It works out.
	It works out.
	We've got to get some sandpaper on your dome then.
	We've got to sand it down.
	I don't know what we'll do.
	Alright, let's pick a good cut for Jim.
	Skinnerd's always good.
	What?
	Skinnerd's always good.
	Give me back my bullets or something like that.
	Can we come in with cut four?
	Cut four.
	Yes.
	Oh boy.
	Yep.
	Copy that.
	that.
	All right.
	Oh, I don't have it in front of me.
	The last book, Jim, is Civil War.
	What is it?
	Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	The Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	And don't forget to put his URL up as well.
	The URL?
	At some point.
	For Strategic Studies Group, right?
	Security Studies Group.
	Security Studies Group.
	Find the URL for that.
	Oh yeah, securitystudies.org.
	That's it?
	Awesome.
	Alright.
	I will make that change.
	Are they keeping you busy?
	Doing lots of hits, Jim?
	Dude, yeah.
	Actually, my voice was a little rugged this morning.
	I did an hour with David Bellavia, and, uh... Honey in your tea.
	Honey in your tea.
	It's the game.
	It is, I know.
	Yeah?
	Little bit of lemon if you're feeling under the weather, and you're good.
	There's a slight bit of a delay now between your audio and video, Seb.
	Wanna redial Skype real quick?
	How much time have we got?
	A minute and a half.
	No.
	Next break.
	Okay.
	You can keep the camera mostly on Jimbo.
	Coming in with cut four.
	Are you gonna play that disclaimer chat at the start of the segment?
	No, that's for the top of the hours.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, one minute.
	All right.
	All right.
	Yeah, so we're coming in with that cut?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	OK.
	We're going to have to get some America First blazers for everybody.
	He thinks I'm joking.
	I better get mine in the mail.
	No, I definitely want one.
	That sounds like a great idea.
	Yeah, it won't be made of plastic though, okay?
	Of course not, only the finest quality.
	Only the finest.
	20 seconds, standby.
	Bespoke blazers.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	When I came into office, I inherited a deal that President Trump negotiated with the Taliban.
	Under his agreement, U.S.
	forces would be out of Afghanistan by May 1, 2021, just a little over three months after I took office.
	U.S.
	forces had already drawn down during the Trump administration from roughly 15,500 American forces to 2,500 troops in country.
	And the Taliban was at its strongest militarily since 2001.
	Oh.
	Oh, so it's our fault.
	It's the Trump administration's fault.
	Let's get a reaction to that very peculiar press conference where he didn't take any questions.
	None better to discuss this than former Special Forces member of the U.S.
	Army.
	He is the head, the president of the Security Studies Group, Jim Hansen.
	Welcome into my studio as I'm in New Hampshire.
	And I'm in your chair.
	This is my chair.
	Do you like my chair?
	I like your chair better.
	It's got a sheepskin thing on it.
	It does.
	Oh yeah, you're gonna love the sheepskin.
	Okay, so gotta get your reaction.
	I know you've almost lost your voice, the amount of media you've done in the last 48 hours.
	Get that man some hot tea with honey stat.
	Jim, where to begin?
	I'm just gonna free fire zone Jim Hansen.
	Look, Biden is busy telling us that Trump cut a deal to get us out by May 31st.
	Now, what starts in the spring in Afghanistan?
	The fighting season, right?
	Fighting!
	Hey!
	Why would getting out before that be a good idea when you could wait, let the Taliban marshal their forces, get everything together, let the snow melt, let the passes open?
	Let them plan everything so that when we did start our cut and run, they could fly up all the highways, crush the provincial capitals, and then take Kabul in about 15 minutes.
	What an idiotic thing to do, among the many idiotic things Biden and his crew did.
	Now, it may seem like a small thing, but in terms of telegraphing to our enemies, and also the message it sends to our allies, and also to the Afghans who served us and helped us in theatre, just this one thing, Jim.
	The fact that he didn't take any questions, hightailed it out of there, back onto Marine One, flew back to Camp David to continue his vacation.
	What message does that send to the good guys and the bad guys?
	Screw you all, I'm on vacation.
	What was he going to do?
	That's the sad thing.
	I wish I had an ounce of confidence that having Biden in the White House was better than having Biden at Camp David or Wilmington or anywhere else on earth.
	He is 100% not up to the task of serving as Commander-in-Chief, and it's probably time to start looking at fitness for duty in the 25th Amendment, because we need, and the world needs, a competent leader running the American Armed Forces.
	Yeah, this is how bad it is, but it's not just him.
	It's his former boss, the man who started his administration by going on an apology tour.
	If you'll just bear with me, Jim, I have an article just sent to me.
	It's from one of Mr. G's favorite publications.
	He's a gannet.
	He absorbs everything.
	This is from the Hindustani Times.
	Karula Karkwa, part of the Gitmo5 released by Obama in 2014, is the planner for the return of the Taliban.
	Here it is.
	Just a little intel for all of our millions of listeners.
	Karula Karkwa was released from Gitmo prison along with four other Taliban prisoners by President Barack Obama.
	The Gitmo Five were labeled, quote, hardest of the hardcore by U.S.
	intelligence officials who advised him not to release them.
	A Taliban prisoner who was released from Gitmo is already emerging to be the key figure who reunited the insurgents and helped them capture power in Afghanistan.
	His name is Karu La Karkwa.
	I like all that.
	Responsibility?
	The responsibility lies on the people who were too naive to understand that scoring political points by bringing a traitor like Bo Bergdahl back was not worth letting loose one Taliban low-level guy, let alone the five they did, as well let alone the five they did, as well as the five million in cash that they had Cutter bring to the Hakani Network who held him.
	Let alone all the people who got out of Gitmo and now are running things and hanging out in the presidential palace.
	I'm sorry, there is something fundamentally incapable on the Democrats' side of understanding the threats we face when, to them, the politics is what matters, not the security and safety of the world.
	And when you hear State Department spokesmen like Ned Price, I mean, It's worse than an SNL skit when SNL was funny.
	Say, we do hope the Taliban regime makes room for men in their administration.
	You know what kind of room they're going to make, right?
	For women in their administration.
	You know what kind of room they're going to make, Jim, right?
	He said that they want an inclusive government.
	And I'm sure it will include every flavor of misogynistic, patriarchal, Islamist terrorist that they have.
	What a ridiculous thing to say.
	How embarrassing.
	And that's really half the problem now.
	And I don't want to minimize the suffering of the Afghan people and the danger this is causing our own troops now who have to go back there.
	But the damage to U.S.
	prestige and credibility And any thought of us as a deterrent against danger around the world is going right down the toilet as these morons make us look like fools in front of the world.
	One of our regular guests yesterday offline said the following to me, and I just want to share it with all of our listeners and with you.
	We're talking to Jim Hansen, president of the Security Studies Group.
	He said, The Biden administration two months ago hoisted the rainbow LGBT flag over our embassy in Kabul.
	I guess it worked out pretty well, right Jim?
	You know, I saw another picture today that had a Taliban fighter holding a machine gun on a group of women and children in front of one of those giant UN billboards that said gender inclusivity and diversity and all this stuff.
	It had the little, you know, the fancy little graphics that they made to show the Afghan people that we all care, except the Taliban doesn't care.
	And apparently nobody else in Afghanistan cares enough to fight the Taliban on their behalf.
	Yeah, I remember one of the most poignant moments of my time in Afghanistan.
	I was just there for a visit.
	I went to four different provinces.
	I was flying back from Herat and I was at the military airport in Herat.
	And I was gated off, fenced off from the civilian part of the airport and I saw this beautiful little girl, must have been four or five years old max, cherubic little girl, head to toe in pink, with some kind of little pony toy, pink trainers, and She was running around playing as sitting on the ground next to her was her mother that looked like a bag of potatoes in a black sack.
	And I realized, you know, if the bad guys come back, well, sooner or later anyway, that girl, as soon as she gets close to puberty, is going to be in that black potato sack like her mother and not living the life of a free, free little girl.
	Like a girl here in America.
	Truly, truly tragic.
	We're talking to the author of Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	He's Jim Hansen.
	You can follow his work at the Security Studies Group.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First live across the nation on the Salem Radio Network from the ReliefFactor.com studios.
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	Okay, mics on. mics on.
	Let me check that real quick.
	They haven't said anything yet.
	But what is it usually?
	Usually, um, six... But is it today?
	No, it's tomorrow.
	It's Wednesdays.
	Um, okay, and, uh, okay, um... Oh, that's right, today's Tuesday.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Need me to ask him something?
	Uh, do I have anything on Thursdays?
	On Thursdays?
	Not that I- other than, you know, the recording.
	Okay.
	Yeah, nothing.
	No, no hits or anything.
	Hey, download this cut I just did.
	Well, I gotta redial his stuff.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Hey, Dr. G, you wanna do pillow here?
	Okay, yep.
	I have that Ned Price cut if you want it.
	Great, great.
	This one?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'll call it.
	Cut.
	Seventeen.
	Calling back Okay, and Don't see oh hang on oh Oh, yeah.
	I'm calling you now.
	Oh, hang on.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's popping up on Skype channel, too.
	Hang on.
	That's, um... Does that matter?
	Switch it up.
	No, it shouldn't matter.
	Give me a second.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, hang on.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	Hey.
	That's right.
	Is that a shortwave radio?
	Where?
	Behind you.
	Over your right shoulder or is that your box?
	This is like an anti-diluvial mixing board.
	With compact discs, do you remember those?
	Oh my god, you'd need a cassette player in the 8-track.
	It's a Denon.
	Denon's good.
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	Do you like Technics?
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	Ooh, I got a lot of tube gear, but it's all brand new.
	Nice!
	Oh yeah, I got Macintosh and Carver and then Martin and Logan speakers.
	That must be expensive, right, the tube gear?
	Oh yeah.
	I want to get one of those Nixie clocks, you know, those tube Nixie clocks.
	I've got one.
	I got one.
	I got a recording light, like the recording studio light, and then on top of that I got a Nixie clock.
	They're all too small.
	The ones I find online are these tiny, stupid little things.
	How big's yours?
	Yeah, they're only about four inches, three inches.
	There's two kinds.
	There's a really big kind, but those are hard to find.
	Almost all the commercial ones are the short ones.
	Guys, will you come in with the Ned Price cup?
	Cut 17, yes.
	14 seconds long.
	We'll do that.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	So you're doing the live free or die thing, huh?
	Oh, yeah.
	We love it.
	We love it.
	I got a buddy.
	My best friend was from Manchester.
	All right, seven with pillow.
	That's it, right?
	Coming in with 17.
	Price.
	Different price.
	- Price. Price. Different price.
	45 seconds. - You took the good mic too.
	I was like, hey, I could use the Elvis mic.
	This never stays where I'm not.
	I've got one.
	I'll just bring it next time.
	I love it.
	Yeah, I got one of those, and I got the fat boy version of it, too, like the real big two-handed version.
	Cool.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All right, 25 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Standing by. Standing
	by. Standing by. Standing by. Standing by. Standing by. Standing by. Standing by.
	The UN Security Council issued a joint press statement earlier today calling for a new government that is united.
	inclusive and representative, including with the full and meaningful participation of women.
	That's unreal!
	Really, the State Department press spokesman is expecting the authoritarian, theocratic, fundamentalist of the Taliban, who gave succor and support to al-Qaeda, to make sure they have an inclusive administration with women as well.
	You gotta have a sense of humor.
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	All right.
	He is the president of the Security Studies Group, author of Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot, former Special Forces operator Jim Hansen.
	First things first, have any of your buddies reached out to you who are at Bragg, who were at Bragg?
	What is the sense of people who bled and fought for that piece of It's sadness, honestly, Seb.
	It's sadness and embarrassment.
	And that's what really hurts, is it's not the people who are boots on the ground, busting their butts, putting their lives on the line, losing friends, and doing everything possible to accomplish a mission that the leadership was not willing to let them do.
	And at some level was actually probably impossible.
	You were never going to make a national army out of a collection of tribes in Afghanistan that hate each other more than they will ever love a mythical nation called Afghanistan.
	So they're sad, they're embarrassed, and at this point they worry about the future of our military because how are you going to get people to join if this is how you treat them, if this is what you do?
	Yeah.
	Here's, look, let me run this past you as a former operator.
	I just, you know, taught the guys at Bragg for years.
	You've actually worn the uniform and the beret.
	So this is what I advised the White House when I was in the Trump administration.
	I said, the only reason Afghanistan matters isn't because of hospitals or schools or ring roads around Kabul that the Soviets couldn't even build.
	It matters because that territory was used to affect 9-11.
	The only reason it matters.
	So all we need is a small footprint of intel and operators to make sure the bad guys like AQ or ISIS are whacked when they are identified.
	Nothing else.
	No nation building.
	That was my suggestion.
	That's what the president was really set to do.
	What is your take on the right approach to Afghanistan?
	You know, I think Biden deserves all the blame and disgrace for the shameful and incompetent way this was handled.
	But let's go back to George W. Bush.
	And let's look at the fact that we were absolutely right to go in and topple the Taliban.
	They allowed that country to be used to attack the United States on 9-11.
	That needed to be taken care of.
	But once we toppled them, which was less than a month later, Why did we stay?
	Because he listened to Rumsfeld and Cheney and Colin Powell talking about if you broke it, you bought it.
	No, we couldn't build a nation.
	We should have knocked them off and then carpet bombed the entire country with leaflets that said, we will bomb this place flat if you do it again, then we'll do another run and make the rubble bounce.
	Stop hassling the United States.
	He understands the application of force.
	Yes, indeed, that is the message that should have been sent.
	Instead, the neocons, the people who believed, ah, Afghanistan, lovely, a future Switzerland, we can invest two and a half trillion dollars, we can lose 2,000 lives, 20,000 wounded, and get nothing to have it all collapse under a Democrat and get nothing to have it all collapse under a Democrat Follow this man at Jim Hansen DC.
	Get his book, The Second Civil War.
	Winning the Second Civil War without firing a shot.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	Titles, if you can think of any.
	Oh yeah, Jim.
	The Taliban's quote-unquote inclusive government.
	Taliban's inclusive government.
	And one a What really happened in Afghanistan?
	Alright.
	Afghanistan.
	And also, uh, black.
	Um.
	Biden, colon, already worse than Jimmy Carter, question mark.
	Okay.
	What was his answer?
	His answer was yes, right?
	Basically.
	I think so, yeah.
	He said this can't quite be compared to Saigon.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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	Yes, yes, don't forget.
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	Dan, welcome to America First.
	Hi, Mr. Gorka.
	This should ought to be labeled Biden's terrorist infrastructure bill because we just handed these guys thousands of buildings we built, a gigantic Air Force base.
	Uh, apartment buildings, you name it, telecommunications, everything.
	And now we have outfitted some of the worst terrorists in the world to help kill more Americans and other people in that region.
	Probably Iran's loving the looks of that Bagram base or the Russians or the Chinese.
	Maybe they can all share it together, you know.
	The Democrats love everybody sharing things, you know.
	This is such a crucial point to remember.
	Thanks to this administration, thanks to Biden's feckless, feckless leadership, the Taliban not only has taken over Kabul, they are the best equipped insurgency.
	They're not even an insurgency anymore.
	They control the country.
	They are the best equipped jihadi movement the world has ever seen.
	The weapons we left there Al-Qaeda, ISIS, never had them in the quality and the scale and the quantity that they have, that they have right now.
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	Stay on the line.
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	Welcome.
	Good afternoon, Seb.
	Hey.
	You brought up the 25th Amendment earlier.
	That's a bad move.
	Because you turn around... I didn't bring it up.
	I didn't bring it up.
	Who brought it up?
	Not me.
	I thought you were talking about the 25th Amendment when you started off.
	I never mentioned it.
	Oh, okay.
	Then it's my bad.
	But make your point about the 25th Amendment, about removing an incapable president.
	Honestly, why would you do that?
	You turn around, you put Kamala in a ding-dong, and she's worse than he is.
	And if you turn around and remove her, then you've got to deal with Gollum in the House.
	I think we should do all of it.
	I think we should get rid of him, we should have Kamala take over, and then we could get Nancy.
	Why?
	So the whole world and the Democrats who voted for these clowns can see them for who they are.
	Let's just show the world!
	Well, that would be perfect, except you need to make sure that we have a check there, which would be making sure that we take the House and the Senate in 2022.
	Absolutely.
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	Thank you for your call.
	J.R., good buddy of the show.
	Welcome back, J.R.
	Hey, Dr. G. OK, so you probably did, but did you see that CNN reporter saying in Kandahar The locals are chanting death to America, but they seem so nice.
	They seem so friendly.
	Yeah, oh, they're just sweethearts, I'm sure.
	As a matter of fact, you're going to be invited to a private barbecue, sweetheart.
	And by the way, here are your new four husbands.
	Yeah, it is truly remarkable.
	And look, on the one hand, it's a little bit surreal that you have that woman who's there as a blonde Caucasian westerner in Afghanistan doing that job.
	I hope she has a massive, massive security detail.
	But then the surreal aspect of her saying, oh, oh, oh, they're chanting death to America But they seem friendly.
	That is the quintessence.
	That is the absolute reality of who CNN are.
	They don't live in a real world and they can make statements like that.
	So I think it's a rather a perfect clip, don't you, JR?
	Absolutely.
	Yes, sir.
	Roger that.
	I have not raised my two children to be anything close to that.
	I would be horrified if they were.
	Absolutely horrified.
	Thank you for your call.
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	Rudy?
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	for.
	Because there are only so many people at the airport right now.
	There aren't 20,000 people at the airport right now.
	There aren't 5,000 to 10,000 Americans at the airport right now.
	They're at their homes either in Kabul or the area.
	What is the plan to get these people to the airport?
	There's, first of all, from a military perspective, John, our focus is at the airport, right?
	Security and stability at the airport so we can keep operations going.
	We're working hand-in-glove with the State Department in terms of supporting their plans at processing these individuals.
	But, again, that's something that we're going to be doing on a case-by-case, day-by-day basis.
	Right now, though, I don't want to set the expectation that we are equipped and able to go out into the countryside and physically move people into Kabul.
	Incredible.
	We're not able.
	We're not able.
	That's Admiral Kirby, DoD press spokesman.
	They don't have the capacity to get Americans out of Afghanistan.
	They don't.
	This administration doesn't even know how many Americans are in Afghanistan.
	Sheer, sheer lunacy.
	Let's go to your cause.
	Let's go to David, Columbus, Ohio.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Hi.
	I just want to first of all say that I'm a huge fan.
	I really appreciate your show, sir.
	Thank you.
	What's your comment or question?
	Okay, so... Listen, I generally agree with everything that you say.
	Just one thing.
	I really don't feel like it's incompetence that's leading them to do this.
	What I feel like is that... Of course it's incompetence.
	Look at the way he handled that press conference.
	Do you think that was a confident man?
	Okay, but let me finish, sir.
	What I'm trying to say is, I feel like, and I could be wrong, but see, I feel like this is the plan.
	So having people fall off our planes and plunge to their deaths is the plan?
	To not know how many Americans are in Afghanistan, that's part of the plan?
	I feel like they are actively trying to destroy America And they're trying to use that area of the country to do it.
	That's what I feel like.
	No, no, no.
	I'm sorry.
	That's tinfoil hattery.
	I'm sorry.
	You can't do that, my friend.
	Just look at the press conference.
	Look at the body language from the press conference.
	Jen Psaki's on vacation, Admiral Kirby doesn't know how many Americans are in Afghanistan, and Biden doesn't take questions.
	Do you think these people feel comfortable right now?
	Do you think this is how it's meant to be?
	Do you think this is going to their plan?
	Thank you.
	That's enough of an answer.
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	Those given the high honor of admission to the United States should support this country and love its people and its values.
	We cannot allow a beachhead of terrorism to form inside America.
	We cannot allow our nation to become a sanctuary for extremists.
	Thank you.
	Within five months of that speech being given, the caliphate of ISIS was simply a bad, bad memory.
	If you haven't seen it already, there is an incredible video.
	Bear with me while I share it with you.
	Former CIA analyst An individual who I don't think will be invited back onto mainstream media in a hurry.
	He's Matt Zeller and he shocked the panelists.
	He shocked Brian Williams because he just spoke the truth about who's responsible for the calamity that is Kabul.
	Cut 9.
	Play cuts.
	We want to bring into the conversation Matt Zeller, former first lieutenant during the war in Afghanistan, former combat advisor with Afghan security forces, co-founder of No One Left Behind, a veterans organization that offers services to former Afghan and Iraqi interpreters who resettled here in the United States.
	Mr. Zeller, it's almost ironic now to state the name of the organization you founded, given what we're watching go on, though I'm curious to hear your reaction of this consequential speech by the American president.
	Didn't run from it.
	He owned it.
	He owned his decision.
	He owned the fact that, as he put it, the buck stops with him.
	I hope he gets to hone their deaths, too.
	I feel like I watched a different speech than the rest of you guys.
	I was appalled.
	There was such a profound bold-faced lie in that speech, the idea that we planned for every contingency.
	I have been personally trying to tell this administration since it took office I've been trying to tell our government for years that this was coming.
	We sent them plan after plan on how to evacuate these people.
	Nobody listened to us.
	They didn't plan for the evacuation of our Afghan wartime allies.
	They're trying to conduct it now at the 11th hour.
	The thing that they were most concerned about was the optics of a chaotic evacuation.
	Well, they got exactly what they were most concerned of by failing to do what was right when we could have done it.
	We had all the people and equipment in place to be able to save these people months ago, and we did nothing.
	I'm appalled that he thinks we only need to take 2,000 people.
	There's 86,000 people who are currently left behind in Afghanistan alone.
	We've identified all of them for the government.
	I have no idea why he claims that people don't want to leave Afghanistan.
	I have a list of 14,000 names right now of people who want to get out of Afghanistan.
	And the idea that the Afghan military should be blamed for this, do you know how many casualties the Afghan military took in an average year?
	More than the United States did in 20.
	When you're not getting paid on a regular basis, when you're not getting fuel, when no one is supplying you with ammunition and yet you're still showing up to the fight, how dare us for having to blame these people for not having No, no, no.
	What we need to be doing right now, and what I am appalled that the President didn't say, was we need to be talking about how we're going to get every single one of these people out.
	Because let's be abundantly clear.
	People like me looked these people in the eye and made them a promise.
	We promised them that in their time of need, we would take care of them.
	How do you ever expect anyone to ever trust us again if we don't do that now while we can?
	And I'm sick and tired of trying to defer the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan on what we're going to do.
	We're the United States of America.
	They're terrified of us.
	I have Afghans on the ground right now who are telling me they're going door-to-door in Kabul and they're making lists of people who used to work with us.
	They're telling them with smiles on their face, evil smiles, that they're going to be back from them once we leave.
	So we either take them now or these people are going to die.
	I've been trying to tell anyone who will listen.
	This is a never again moment in the making.
	This is an administration that seems to be a profound champion and defender of human rights.
	Well, sometimes human rights have to be defended at the barrel end of a gun.
	The Taliban are a modern version of the Nazis.
	And if this was Dresden, do you think British, sorry not Dresden, if this was Dunkirk, do you think British You know, yachting pilots, the British captains that were sailing their boats heroically in Dunkirk.
	Do you think they were asking on the beaches if the people they were picking up were Brits or French?
	Or do you think they were just trying to get people away from the Nazis?
	Every Afghan we leave behind is going to be left behind to a horrible existence.
	And if we don't take them now while we can, that is as much on us as it is on the Taliban, who will hang or behead them.
	I've never met Matt Zeller, but I'm impressed with that interview, and it is delightful to finally see somebody speak the truth on the mainstream lying media.
	It's about time, and we need to get him on this show as well.
	She's been waiting very patiently.
	She's a loyal, loyal listener, a great, great mind as well.
	Lori from Pennsylvania, welcome to America First.
	Dr. G, that was an unkindly, undeservedly kind intro.
	I meant every syllable, every syllable, every consonant of it.
	You know how much I love you, and I only call in when it's absolutely necessary.
	You are like a special forces officer.
	We only engage when we have to, but when we do, it is necessary.
	So share with us your analysis across the nation, Laurie.
	I just finished, and I don't believe in coincidences being a person of faith, Dr. G, but literally this morning I finished listening to the book, Honor and Betrayal, by Patrick Robinson.
	You may know the book, it's the story of the three Navy SEALs who were wrongly accused of prisoner abuse after they rolled out the Butcher of Fallujah in 2009 in Iraq.
	It is such a horrendous tale of betrayal of our armed forces by our government that it is just hitting me like a sledgehammer right now.
	And I heard the impassioned words just now of Zeller, and I, of course, agree with them.
	And, of course, I am concerned, desperately concerned about what is happening with the Afghans who are our allies and, frankly, the Afghans who are just innocent victims.
	But I'm really concerned about the impact of all this crap on the men and women serving in our armed forces, who are trying to uphold our values, which are being ripped apart.
	They're literally being disemboweled by this administration, and not just this administration, but every Democrat administration, and frankly, the George W. Bush administration.
	It's unconscionable.
	Yeah, let me respond with my take on the real consequences of what's happening.
	We can turn around America's position in the world.
	We saw this, the day to night, the change from Obama to President Trump.
	People were We're not afraid of us.
	People thought we had lost all American leadership.
	And then President Trump, in a matter of months, turns it around.
	So we can do that.
	We can come back.
	But your point is the most disturbing of all.
	When you destroy, when you dishonor, and you dismantle, and you politicize an institution like the US military, that doesn't get turned around in a ballot box.
	That can take years and decades.
	The consequences of the betrayal of our military during Vietnam, that literally took decades.
	So you're absolutely right.
	And as you said, there are no consequences.
	But we must keep the faith and we must get true leadership back into the White House.
	And my vote is for my old boss, Donald Trump.
	Thank you and God bless you, Laurie.
	Never, ever be a stranger.
	Let's go to Pat in Phoenix.
	Pat, welcome to America's First.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	I'm not as eloquent as your last speaker, but my main point is, besides all the human tragedy over there, how can you be so dumb as to leave your weapons behind for your enemy to claim?
	That was a deliberate decision.
	They said it's more expensive to ship them back than to leave them there.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	That is just incredible.
	That's incredibly stupid.
	And guess what?
	Guess what?
	You paid for it and I paid for it.
	It is incredibly stupid and now the Taliban, the theocratic Taliban that wants to kill every single one of us, if they could, is now the best equipped jihadi Movement in the world.
	Thank you for your call.
	I don't know if you're on a new caller.
	Stay on the line.
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	It gets a book.
	Yeah.
	Mike Sanchez doing it right now.
	Oh, give me Glenn.
	Mic's on or off?
	Uh, you can keep it on.
	Okay, mic's are on.
	Hey Glenn, are you mad at me?
	No, no, no, I'm not mad at you.
	I just want to get your rationale down.
	So the Earth caller that called at the beginning of the hour and you told him about having the tinfoil hat on.
	Now, I'm not going to go as far as he did.
	But I think you and I agree that Joe Biden and these leftists don't have America's best interests, right?
	I said that, I said they hate America, correct.
	I believe that.
	So why is it hard to believe that they're Doing things that are going to hurt us, that are going to cause our demise.
	Because to say that they did this deliberately is asinine.
	Why?
	Because they're never going to get re-elected.
	This is such a catastrophic failure.
	The idea that, oh, it was all planned and they want to see the footage of people falling off our airplanes.
	It's just dumb.
	It's just dumb.
	I wouldn't necessarily say that Biden wanted to see footage that way, but I guess what I'm getting at is, The optics aside, if... But hang on, you can't say that!
	Stop!
	Stop right there, Glenn!
	You can't say... In politics, you can't say, optics aside!
	That's your mistake!
	You can't do that!
	But they have the media!
	They have the media!
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no!
	Come on, Guy!
	When the Atlantic, one of the most vociferously, bloodthirsty, liberal rags comes gunning, gunning for Biden first thing on Monday.
	There's no control of the media left.
	When your side is devouring you, you realize this wasn't planned.
	This was sheer incompetence.
	They can't lose, CNN.
	They can't lose the Atlantic when they're starting to lose them.
	You know That's the proof of rank incompetence.
	You've got, you've got us, this is our biggest problem on the right.
	When we fall into these, oh, oh, it's a, all of it's a conspiracy.
	No!
	They hate America, but they're also incompetent.
	Those two things can be true at the same time, Dan.
	I agree with you on that.
	And I, I, that's a good, no, the way you just described it, I agree that there could be both.
	I just, I, I wonder, I'm just, I don't know.
	I know these people don't have America's best at heart, and so I have to wonder the other side sometimes, if that makes sense.
	Right, right.
	No, that's fine, but you've got to remember, Glenn, that they can be hateful, they can be un-American, and they can also be idiots as well.
	Thanks for the call, Glenn.
	Hey, so you know, I got the book in.
	My mom's right here.
	Hey, what's your mom's name?
	Yvonne, right here.
	Hey!
	Hi!
	God bless!
	You too!
	Thanks for calling in.
	Alright, have a good one.
	Gotta run.
	See you guys.
	Alright, let's come in with a cool cut for Jim.
	Okay.
	Another one of the boss?
	Uh, no.
	Let's do... Eight.
	Eight.
	Hank Taylor.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Oh, did you send me something from Parnell?
	I sent you, uh, emailed you his bio.
	Yeah, text embedded in the email.
	From his website.
	Alright, so we're coming in with cut eight.
	No liners, Chad?
	Uh, yeah, we don't need it.
	Okay, alright.
	Man, so many cuts today were like, I can't play any liners.
	Hey, John, did Casio reach out to you? - Good.
	John Piper?
	Yeah.
	Did Cassio reach out to you?
	On email?
	I'll connect you guys via text.
	He's not answering.
	Carafano's not answering.
	Okay.
	Ten seconds, stand by.
	Still want to come in with the cut?
	Yes, coming up.
	Yes.
	So there's no U.S.
	action.
	actions being taken to prevent equipment from falling into the hands of the Taliban by destroying it or anything else?
	I don't have the answer to that question.
	That's truly, truly remarkable.
	That is audio from a Pentagon press conference where a general, Hank Taylor, is asked about what measures the most powerful nation in the world is taking to prevent the weapons we, you, I, paid for from falling into the hands of our enemies.
	And there on camera, you heard it, Hank Taylor standing there says, we have no plans.
	How is that possible that you have no plans?
	You read a Tom Clancy novel, you watch a James Bond movie, and you see the super spies, you see the tier one operators just before they're about to get captured, what do they do?
	They throw a grenade into the helicopter.
	They set a self-destruct fuse on that piece of precious equipment that mustn't be allowed to fall into the hands and be captured by our enemies.
	But when it's thousands and thousands and thousands of automatic weapons and mortars and machine guns and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of Humvees, we just leave them?
	Now, let me answer my own question.
	I'll tell you exactly, exactly why and how it happened.
	Because people, and I'm gonna go straight for the jugular on this one, a metaphorically calmed-down Media Matters and little Zacky Pooh.
	Hey, Zack!
	Where's your latest little hit piece, you squeaky-voiced little sad individual?
	I'm going to go straight for this person's reputation.
	General Hank Taylor, you're a clown!
	You're a fool!
	In a prior age, when a senior general flag officer was asked such a bloody obvious question, and he didn't have a good answer, his resignation would be expected.
	But I have a sneaking suspicion that this individual is too busy trying to satisfy his woke leadership.
	Whether it is Mark Milley, the disgrace to the U.S.
	uniform, who is, of course, the most senior officer in the United States military, who says, Critical Race Theory?
	I don't know what that is, but it's fine to be teaching it at West Point.
	We're waiting for Jim Carafano.
	Is Jim with us?
	Jim, welcome.
	I'm so glad you could join us.
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	Usually you join us later in the week, but the events are so monumental.
	We asked you to come earlier and we appreciate that.
	Jim, lots of Spurious analyses that this was deliberate, wasn't deliberate, that blaming the last administration for all of this.
	Give us your take.
	I know you're working very hard to try and get those who supported us to safe harbour.
	But when it comes to the geopolitical decisions taken and the cost to America, I give you free rein, Jim.
	Well, look, I mean, let's speak.
	This is Biden's decision.
	And all of the terrible, horrible things that happened, happened because of the decision Biden made.
	That cannot be dismissed.
	That's just fact.
	I mean, the reality was, regardless of what you thought about anything, the 2,500 troops were a real deterrent to the advance of the Taliban.
	And the Afghan military Demonstrated that as long as Americans were there, and the political leaders, that they were willing to fight.
	Afghans took 70,000 casualties fighting against the Taliban.
	They didn't just walk away from the battlefield because they were tired of fighting.
	They walked away because they just thought we weren't going to be there anymore.
	And they had families and tribes to look after, and the political leaders just cut deals.
	Taliban didn't conquer the country through military means.
	They conquered the country because people cut deals with them and everybody gave up.
	What started this train was Biden's decision, and how it unfolded was his.
	People warned him that this could happen.
	People warned him they needed to get people out of the country.
	For months they said that.
	So every bad thing that happened is because of Biden.
	And I think the president has a real, well, he has two real problems now.
	One is, he has the strategic problem of this disaster that he's dealing with, but now I think he also has a political problem, because essentially he gave a speech yesterday, and he made the speech all about him and his decision.
	Well, I don't think that's going to end well, because everything he did to defend himself was demonstrably false, either a lie, misleading, or mischaracterization.
	And that's all going to come out, and it's already all come out.
	So now it's not just a geostrategic tragedy.
	He has done irreparable damage to his political credibility.
	Let's play a clip.
	You're absolutely right, and that's why you are a regular here on America First.
	This is perhaps one of the most despicable lines from the speech, where he blames the poor Afghans.
	Cut five.
	Play cuts.
	I know there are concerns about why we did not begin evacuating Afghans civilians sooner.
	Part of the answer is some of the Afghans did not want to leave earlier, still hopeful for their country.
	And part of it because the Afghan government and its supporters discouraged us from organizing a mass exodus to avoid triggering, as they said, a crisis of confidence.
	So, Jim, it was the Afghans, because they weren't ready to leave, and it's because of the Afghan government.
	They're responsible.
	Look, I mean, these are all just excuses.
	And they keep, just like on the border, remember, it was seasonal, and they just, when people didn't buy it, they just throw out more excuses.
	This is their shtick.
	They just keep throwing out excuses, hoping that something sticks.
	So, what's really crucial is, Where are we going forward?
	And this is the three crisis problem.
	The first crisis is there's literally 10,000 or more Americans and other countries as well in the country.
	Are the Taliban going to let them leave?
	So we could either A, face a Iran-like hostage crisis of much larger proportions, or the Taliban will demand a very high price from Biden, which he will pay to allow those people to go to Kabul, to the airport and leave.
	And they will humiliate us all along the way.
	That's just the crisis in the next few days and weeks, or maybe even months.
	The crisis behind that is terrorism.
	We're going to have a new terrorist sanctuary in Afghanistan.
	Correct.
	And so we're going to have to worry about the next 9-11.
	But in addition to that, the Taliban have achieved a glorious victory here.
	Every Islamist terrorist around the world is going to be inspired to take up the weapon again And murder innocents and come after Americans and our friends and allies.
	So that's a big problem that Biden didn't have just 30 days ago.
	I can see the shape of an opinion piece coming out by our friend Jim Carufano.
	The three big threats as a result of the fall of Kabul.
	We will continue to analyze them with Jim after this break.
	Follow him right now, JJ Carufano, and join the Heritage Foundation, heritage.org.
	Back with Jim Carafano after these messages.
	Hey, Jim.
	Jim?
	Yeah?
	That was superb.
	Can we just continue to unpack that, or is there something else you'd like to hit?
	Oh, no, no.
	The third one is China.
	People have no idea how we did it.
	So when we come back, let's just quickly reprise and then talk about China, OK?
	You got it.
	Have you written this up yet, or are you going to write it up?
	Because if you don't, I'm going to steal it.
	No, you can steal it.
	I haven't written the China piece yet, but the terrorism one I talked about in a piece I think I did for Fox yesterday or yesterday.
	Excellent.
	Except you wanted to do American finance here.
	Yeah, we'll do American financing here and then we'll go straight to Jim.
	Okay.
	Are the lines blocked?
	Yeah.
	Okay, good.
	Oh, oh, by the way, Eric, you there?
	Yes, I'm here.
	That was excellent use of b-roll.
	Thank you, thank you.
	That was superb.
	Thanks.
	I have one sensitivity, and I know it's a function of how much b-roll we get.
	Sure.
	I hate it when b-roll is repeated.
	Yeah.
	It's when TV companies don't have a lot of money that they repeat stuff.
	I understand.
	But that, that was really on the money.
	We'll send that to Phil.
	That was great.
	Thanks.
	Alright, so... Again, I have ten different clips here from what John Gallagher... So who sends them to you?
	John sent me that bit.
	I did a little searching on Twitter for some more footage that I found that does have sound, so I'll have to mute it when I play it, but there's all kinds of videos.
	There's a shortage of videos of what's happening there.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Oh, okay.
	That's not it.
	We don't have any stray voltage, right?
	Chat, things to record, other stuff, anything?
	No, Mitchell and Frank haven't gotten anything for me.
	We are free and clear right now.
	I assume by the end of the week, though, we're going to probably have something.
	Two minutes.
	I might use cut 11 with Drim if we have time.
	Okay, cut 11.
	11. Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So Jim said he's going to talk about China mostly this segment, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	So B-roll wise, should I still just play some Afghanistan stuff?
	Yeah, you can.
	Okay, all right.
	Got a few more clips here.
	40 seconds.
	So you said you wanted to use Cut 11?
	I may if I have time.
	You may, okay.
	I don't know, we'll see.
	No worries.
	Standing by.
	Alright, 20 seconds, stand by.
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	Absolutely shocking this from the Daily Wire.
	This has been sent to people who have registered With the State Department to be evacuated from Kabul.
	Please make your way to Hamid Karzai International Airport at this time and in block capitals to US citizens trapped in Afghanistan.
	This is how the message ends.
	Please be advised that the United States government cannot guarantee your security as you make this trip.
	Jim, not a good message to send, not only our fellow Americans, but also our enemies.
	Well, this is the next crisis, right?
	As everybody's kind of obsessing about the fall of Afghanistan, what they're missing is We're on the verge of a new crisis here.
	We could have an Iran-like hostage situation with thousands of Americans, or the Taliban could demand a bounty to let the Americans leave and further humiliate Biden.
	And that's just the crisis in our face.
	Right behind that is, we talked about in the last segment, a potential for a resurgence of transnational terrorism.
	But there's a third problem as well, and nobody is talking about this, is Biden just Enormously empowered China.
	He just explained that to our millions of listeners.
	Unbelievable strategic presence.
	Because now if the Chinese can freely move in Afghanistan and work with the Taliban, because nobody else will, because everybody else won't recognize them because they're terrorists.
	They have a strategic bridge to Iran.
	They can build their belt and road bypassing every responsible country.
	They'll make trillions out of this deal.
	They'll have access to all the resources in Afghanistan, which are actually quite significant.
	They have very significant rare earth deposits, for example.
	They'll be able to threaten the flank of India.
	They'll pretty much own Pakistan.
	So pretty much Biden just potentially gifted South Asia to China.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	If you were advising this administration, irrespective of political affiliation, what would you like to hear coming either from the White House or from the Defense Department or from the State Department?
	What sends the right message to Americans, to allies, to partners and our enemies?
	What should be on the top of their to-do list, Jim?
	Well, first of all, they've got to get the people out.
	So everybody should come back to Washington.
	Everybody in the government.
	The president should be burning the phone to every ally along the world, leading a global effort to get all those people out and all the refugees out.
	That should be number one.
	And that should be 24 hours.
	The fires, the lights burning in the White House because getting those humans out, getting out the human hostages is more important than anything.
	I wrote a piece for Fox News.
	I think it came out yesterday.
	I looked at five steps we can take to start to deal with the transnational terrorist threat.
	It'll be a lot harder than it was before, because Biden's made it harder, but we could do that.
	And then we've got to think about China.
	I mean, we just gave them a huge gift, and we have to figure out how to take it away from them.
	And that's a heavy lift.
	For that last thing, is that something we can do by ourselves?
	Who can be partners with us in dealing with China?
	India is going to be the most important strategic partner.
	And we have to have a real serious conversation about Pakistan.
	We have to talk about whether Pakistan is actually lost to the West forever.
	Yeah, because this is Christmas, this is Eid come early for the fundamentalists in Pakistan who have been giving sucker and covert support to the fundamentalists, to the Taliban for years as they see this nation as their rear echelon in any war with India.
	God bless you, Jim, for joining us today.
	We always value your analysis and especially given The speed with which the geopolitical environment is changing.
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	We have to go back.
	We have to discuss what is going on in Afghanistan with somebody who retired as a captain from the army with not one star, with two bronze stars and a purple heart as well.
	I can't believe what I'm reading in his biography.
	It says, along the AfPak border in 2006-2007, he and his unit spent 485 days fighting, fighting those people who now have taken over that country.
	Sean Parnell, welcome to America First.
	Hey, thanks so much for having me.
	I really appreciate the time today.
	All right, so we'll talk about what you're doing today, how you're serving America again.
	But first, given as somebody who's blamed as a Purple Heart recipient for this nation in theater, have to get your reaction to what the current incumbent of the White House said yesterday.
	This is Joe Biden, cut six.
	So what's happened?
	Afghanistan political leaders gave up and fled the country.
	The Afghan military collapsed.
	So he's proud of his decision and he's blaming everybody else.
	Sean Parnell, Captain Parnell, your reaction?
	Indian U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan now was the right decision.
	So he's proud of his decision and he's blaming everybody else.
	Sean Parnell, Captain Parnell, your reaction.
	You know, what was shocking to me about that address was that he blamed everybody, the Afghan political leaders, the Afghan National Army, blamed President Trump.
	He blamed everybody but the Taliban for what's happening in Afghanistan.
	And I find that to be a travesty.
	And I think ultimately what he did is this really wasn't a debate about whether or not we should be getting out of Afghanistan.
	President Trump had a well-articulated plan.
	And I think a strategic drawdown that was conditions based.
	I mean, there's a very big difference between what President Trump had planned and what Joe Biden did.
	But this is not a debate over whether or not we should leave Afghanistan.
	What that speech should have addressed was the absolute preventable disaster that Joe Biden oversaw with our drawdown there.
	I was so disgusted.
	I was so disgusted when I saw in the first statement that he issued, even before he gave that short address, where he blamed President Trump for this.
	Commanders, one of the things that teach you in the Army is that when you're leading troops or you're in command, commanders are responsible for everything that happens or fails to happen under their command.
	This travesty in Afghanistan is on Joe Biden.
	It's on his feckless administration, who seem to have their head in the clouds and be wholly unengaged.
	I mean, my God, think about this.
	There could be up to 10,000 Americans surrounded by the Taliban, trapped in Afghanistan as we speak, and Joe Biden is on vacation right now.
	In times of crisis, leaders lead, and Joe Biden has failed on that front.
	You served with the 10th Mount Division.
	You've written a bestseller book called Outlaw Platoon.
	Everybody needs to read it.
	But now you've decided to serve the nation again and the state of Pennsylvania.
	Why have you decided to run for the Senate, Captain Parnell?
	Well, you know, I think that the American people want, and especially watching this tragedy in Afghanistan unfold, I think the American people and certainly people in the state of Pennsylvania Just desperately want real leaders and fewer politicians.
	And having the opportunity to serve my country again is an unbelievable honor.
	And leadership is what I do, right?
	It's making sure that our military stays strong, that we have a sound border policy, and we reject the policy of open borders, that we embrace our law enforcement, and we don't advocate for insane defund-the-police policies.
	I think the American people want that leadership, and they're rejecting career politicians on either side of the aisle.
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	What do you say to them?
	Your service had meaning.
	You fought the enemy in Afghanistan at every turn and you defeated them.
	You did great things for the people of that country.
	This tragedy that's unfolding in Afghanistan, it falls squarely on the shoulders of the suits and not the boots.
	Be proud of your service because America is proud of you.
	I like that phrase.
	It's the suits, not the boots, that are responsible.
	Parnell for Senate.
	God bless you.
	Sean, can we get you back for a much longer discussion here on America First, given the recent events?
	Of course.
	Anytime you need me, I'll be there.
	Let's do it.
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	I want to send...
	We'll set them up as usual, but I want to send...
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	Don't worry about it.
	I'll work it out.
	What titles do you need?
	Carafano and Parnell.
	Parnell... It's the suits, not the boots.
	Kabul, colon.
	It's the suits, not the boots.
	Yep.
	Great line.
	What do you want him back for?
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	Alright.
	How booked are you for one-on-one?
	Not tomorrow, but then I'm like a week out.
	Yeah, so we could get him next week.
	Yeah.
	And Carrafano.
	And for Carrafano.
	Something about China, like tying China into it?
	The big, the biggest consequence of Afghanistan no one's talking about.
	Biggest consequence of Afghanistan no one's talking about?
	Yeah.
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	Yeah, Mr. G, you're right.
	A lunatic teacher from Texas that just doesn't get it when it comes to the coronavirus.
	Cut 10.
	Play cuts.
	This year, there is this overshadowing apprehension that's clouding my normal back-to-school thoughts.
	And it's with... It's with thoughts like, if I die, Who's going to take care of my children?
	And if I end up in a hospital, how am I going to pay those bills?
	And if I give COVID to my students or my own children and they die, how am I going to live with that?
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	It's just that not everyone agrees that wearing a mask will stop the onslaught of students and staff who are likely to become sick, and that makes me sick.
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	I would have opened this hour with our special in-studio guest with a certain audio of a certain Austrian actor whose dad was a Nazi, but I'm not going to do that anymore because it's just, you know, he's an ass.
	He is an asshat, as we like to say.
	His name is Arnold, and we will not pay respect to him.
	We might tell you what he has recently said, which bears upon the state of this nation.
	Screw your freedom.
	Yeah, well, screw you too, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First 101 with none other than director, auteur, producer, Amanda Milius, former Trump administration political appointee.
	Amanda, welcome back in studio.
	Hi, good to be here.
	Am I too harsh?
	No.
	I mean, I think I was actually wondering if you were going to play it.
	Because obviously, I mean, your audience knows every time I come on.
	Every time you come on.
	Conan, what is best in life?
	Lamentation.
	See your enemies dream before you and see the lamentation of their women.
	We will not use that audio anymore.
	It's not, yeah, it doesn't have, we can't do it today because, I mean, yesterday he shamed himself.
	He, you know, defiled the sword.
	Well, not only a couple of days ago by giving that interview on CNN, but then you showed me the pictures on Friday of him posing with the sword from Conan Barbarian.
	Well, it's not the real Not the real sort, thankfully.
	So, like, lightning didn't strike.
	Right, right.
	From the movie your father actually made, John Milius, surrounded by the two Vindman twins, the seditious anti-American subversives from the Trump administration who tried to get the president impeached.
	So, let's ignore him.
	Let's ignore him for now.
	We'll go back and bash Arnold, the girly man, later.
	But let's talk.
	On the way to the studio today, I thought, I want to talk to Amanda, a guest lover.
	She's a patriot.
	She's a good gal.
	Should I mention her dad again?
	Is it embarrassing?
	Is she fed up?
	Don't they know?
	I'm not fed up.
	I think it's great.
	It was Red Dawn Day the other day.
	It was the anniversary of Red Dawn.
	Because, you know, it was the 30-something years of the release.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	She gave me a signed poster of Red Dawn.
	Sorry, guys.
	Signed by John Melius himself.
	And I want to talk about him just for a little bit.
	Why?
	Because I was awake.
	It was late.
	My wife was traveling 3am.
	So what comes up on my YouTube feed?
	A documentary called Milius.
	And I thought, is this going to be a hit, Joe?
	Because he's the enfant terrible of Hollywood.
	He's a conservative.
	He's a patriot.
	Is this going to be, you know, a lambasting of this man's record?
	And I tell you, I don't know who made it.
	And I texted you afterwards.
	Sorry.
	It was the middle of the night.
	And yeah, they're really good guys.
	And I tell you, I always loved him and his movies.
	But even I, as a film fan, didn't realize just how many things he touched which are seminal not just as directed but you know when when he rewrites the USS Minneapolis scene from Jaws when when he fixes you know when Sean Connery says I'm not gonna do Red October unless John Milius writes some speeches for me and that's how they get him for the hunt for Red October so I want to say right here right now I think
	I think your father, John Milius, is perhaps the most influential modern filmmaker we have in America today.
	I mean, I think that might be true.
	I think people don't realize how many things he influenced.
	I mean, even the other day when Larry Elder was excited that Clint Eastwood Oh yeah, Finnegan gave him a message of support.
	Yeah, and he said, you know what, that made my day, you know, make my day, whatever.
	My dad wrote that line.
	Right.
	Like, so there's these, all these little cultural, I mean, he's, it's actually, I've thought about this, where it's not just that he wrote these great movies and people like the movies and they represent a certain philosophy, but there's these lines.
	Like, it's like, if you think of the top 10 most memorable lines in movies, he's written like five of them.
	Yeah.
	It's crazy.
	So I don't know how it is.
	He's got this real way with... But it's not just the lines.
	It's not just things... It's because... The reason the lines are memorable is because the moments are memorable, which is because the characters are memorable.
	Right.
	And that's the difference between a lot of other directors and writers who do great things, but they don't get that... It's hard to put your finger on exactly what it is.
	It's almost like this... You really know the character.
	Right but you're selling him short and it's easy for you to do because you're so close to the fire and what comes to me is look there are great directors okay Spielberg I get it there are great script writers you know Mankiewicz and others but there's nobody who's a great script writer incredible great director incredible and producer and
	And then the guy who's like the ER surgeon for everybody else when their film is tanking and it's garbage and the rushes are coming in and nobody wants to, you know, see it released.
	And he comes in and he gets the paddles and he fixes it with a little bit of a rewrite that, you know, Robert Shaw delivers and makes the movie.
	So it's hard for you to analyze, but how does he have that circumference of talent?
	I mean, I think, I obviously can't say from his perspective, but from knowing his career path, I think it was forged out of the fact that he was forced to do many things.
	You know, they didn't want him to direct for the first half of his career, and that's very common.
	Like, you get pigeonholed as a writer or a director in Hollywood, and he was getting these incredible fees The rate that he was getting to write scripts at his, when he was right out of USC.
	Oh, he got a record fee.
	It was insane.
	Almost at the beginning.
	Right.
	And that was for, um, I think Judge Roy Bean, weirdly, was like, it broke a record for a screenwriter.
	So he was like the top earning screenwriter in Hollywood at that point.
	And for him to be like, no, I want to direct and I'm not going to release, I'm not going to give you my next script unless I get to direct it, which was, um, Well, I think he got the record-breaking rate because he wanted to direct that, and he kept bargaining back and forth, and they were just like, no, they would rather pay him that much than let him direct.
	Let him direct.
	Which is weird, because that's the thing is, unless you come out of film school directing, no one trusts you to direct.
	It's very hard to transition into directing from producing or writing or anything else.
	It can take decades.
	Oh.
	Yes.
	Decades and arm twisting and you won't get any money.
	And that's what happened is he didn't take a fee, but he wrote a script that he knew everyone was going to want, which was Dillinger.
	And then he insisted on directing it himself.
	And that's how he finally was able to start directing.
	And Dillinger's awesome, by the way.
	I mean, it's a really fun movie.
	Really cool.
	Can I talk about Madness for a second?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So everybody knows he is a man's man, a bear of a man, a man who, when Martin Sheen's doing a crap ADR loop on Apocalypse Now, he says, you're not in the mood, Martin.
	So he pulls out a loaded 1911 in the recording studio, puts it on the thing and says, hold this gun so you're in the mood.
	And Martin Sheen's like, I'm scared of guns!
	No, this is true.
	Right, no, this is a true story.
	And on top of that, the thing I wasn't aware of, was it Big Wednesday?
	Yeah, Big Wednesday.
	So Big Wednesday, his favorite movie, which is about his childhood, his teen years as a surfer.
	And the footage from, I haven't even seen it yet, but the footage, there's something weird about your dad, because surfers are like, you know, the big hair and 0% body fat, and they look like long distance runners, and they're usually skinny guys.
	And then you see this footage of this guy, it's like he's defying gravity.
	It's like the Earth is like a little ping pong ball.
	And he's just this A huge bear of a man, muscles, and just riding this board like it's stapled to his feet.
	That's what Arnold Schwarzenegger wishes he could be.
	I know, I know.
	It's pretty cool.
	He had an actually really cool surfing style.
	I mean, if you talk to actual surfers... But he looked so easy!
	Yeah, that's the style.
	He's just playing with the sea.
	Yeah, it's that longboard era.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's that like longboard era.
	And it's I mean that he got for whatever reason.
	I mean, he's he's if you ask him like you want to how do you want to be remembered?
	He's always like first as a surfer.
	Because that's his most important movie, right?
	Big Wednesday?
	Yeah, that's the closest to his... yeah, that's the most personal movie to him.
	I mean, I find Big Wednesday and Conan the most personal to me, because Big Wednesday, you can't watch it without crying.
	Really?
	No, I mean, like, really.
	Like, it's like...
	It's incredible.
	I mean, it is a movie about just nostalgia personified and just like the sort of brutal tragedy of the movement of time and like friendship and male friendship.
	I mean, it is a movie about buddies in a very... I don't think there's any war movie that has captured the male camaraderie better than Big Wednesday.
	And for those who were part of it, who are commenting on it in the movie Milius, which guys you should watch, in addition to several movies we'll mention later.
	It's almost as if it's a documentary.
	It's fiction, but it feels like it's real.
	Well, it's an incredible style.
	It's weird that it wasn't a bigger hit at the time.
	I mean, this is that classic story that some people know where my dad traded points, this is back when people did that, on Big Wednesday with George Lucas on Star Wars and Steven Spielberg on Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
	And so those two guys got equal shares of Big Wednesday and he got equal shares of those two movies.
	And they thought Big Wednesday was going to be the blockbuster.
	Oh, really?
	No, that was the going idea.
	Well, nobody thought Star Wars was going to succeed.
	Nobody thought.
	No, people literally thought it was going to flop.
	George thought it was going to flop.
	He was in Hawaii when it came out and didn't want to read the reviews.
	He wanted to see the reviews because he thought, you know, it's science fiction.
	Science fiction is not reputable.
	This isn't 2001.
	It's got a tag.
	Okay.
	Superb, superb, superb.
	Here's the question.
	What does The Scion.
	Can the Scion be female?
	It can on my show.
	What is the Scion of... There's no genders anymore.
	Stop it!
	Stop it.
	Can the Scion of a Zen anarchist Find peace in the world.
	What do they do?
	Well, of course, we have the answer here in studio.
	She not only becomes a filmmaker herself, we'll talk about the extraordinary film she's released already, she becomes a swamp monster fighting Trump appointee.
	So Amanda Milius, for those who haven't heard you before, for those who just landed on the dial or turned on this video, Tell our millions of listeners and viewers who you are, where you came from, and how you ended up in the Trump administration.
	Well, I was working.
	I went to USC film school, which is the same school my dad went to.
	I decided I wanted to go full film, you know, actual film industry, traditional trajectory.
	Was he proud when he did that?
	Or did he think it was crazy?
	Uh, no, I kind of blackmailed him into it.
	Like, he didn't really want me- he didn't really think- I- he- I don't know, it's very weird.
	He's really into the movie that I made now, but I think he didn't want me to go traditional Hollywood, and I don't know that he was really able to articulate that, but, um, you know, I- I, like, twisted his arm into letting me go, and then- and then he was, like, really into it, and then- And then he, like, it's like you have to, like, force him, and then he decides actually it was his idea.
	I think this is common in a lot of families.
	But then he was like, oh, no, this is great.
	He's like, because this is like going to the West Point of film school, and I'm a general.
	And I was like, okay.
	However you have to paint this so that I can go to this film school, like, fine.
	So I go to the film school, and then it's great.
	It's amazing.
	It is the best film school in the world.
	Still?
	Of course, yeah.
	I mean it's not even... they're great.
	I think it's probably really lucky that I went there when I did because I think that things in any university got so political.
	I mean literally I think I made it by a year.
	I think if I had gone there one additional semester... You wouldn't have been allowed to finish.
	Yeah, I think it would have been really contentious.
	But so then I was doing, I was touring my little movie, my thesis that I made to finish... Were they lesbian space cowgirls?
	Yeah, the lesbian weed western.
	The post-apocalyptic lesbian weed western.
	Sorry, post-apocalyptic.
	Okay, thank you.
	Yeah, post-apocalyptic.
	That's a tough category.
	Yeah, it's very crowded.
	So many, it's hard to stand apart.
	But, you know, and the movie itself is kind of like this veiled NRA ad, but all the feminists thought it was- What's the title?
	The Lotus Gun.
	It's actually on, it's still on, I think PBS bought it, so it's still on film school shorts on the internet, on their channels or whatever.
	Yeah.
	They loved it, I thought it was amazing.
	It's actually an NRA.
	It's basically, well it's a very like personal responsibility, freedom, it's like a libertarian white dream.
	I mean it's like these girls with like marijuana fields and they're like beautiful and they live out in the wilderness and it's like this whole thing.
	Anyway.
	But so I did that and toured it around and I was doing odds and I didn't have like a full-time job because I kept having to leave to go to a festival so I was doing like part-time work at production companies and so I had you know free time and I was getting so obsessed with politics that I started... What year is this?
	2015, 2016, into 2016 and so I started driving out Early like spring 2016, driving out to Las Vegas to work, like summer 2016, to work for the Trump campaign there, like the actual DJT for president.
	And then they hired me.
	And it was like this whole, I mean, it was almost like, I've started to explain it now, really was kind of like a spiritual awakening because nobody knew anything about me.
	Everybody was treated the same.
	I was working with normal people doing real things, people who cared about America.
	Normal people, not L.A.
	people, not Hollywood people, people that wanted to, they really believed in the mission, and we were knocking doors, I became the volunteer coordinator, so I was working with all kinds of people that would come in and want to volunteer, and it was like the happiest I've ever been in my life.
	It was like, I was just like, this is... Why?
	Because no pretension?
	Well, just, it was... No elitism?
	Yeah, there isn't this like...
	Never-ending ambition all around you, not surrounded with narcissists, everybody's working for something that's bigger than themselves.
	I mean, these are the elements of any good human routine.
	Like, when you research this stuff, this is why people volunteer in churches, this is why- and I mean, I'm not saying don't make politics your religion, but there was- that's just how I happened to, like, learn this.
	That, you know, there was this real fulfilling nature of it and working with people who, you know, had had two jobs and never took a day off.
	And then they, you know, they didn't even take a day off when their family was sick.
	And then they took a day off, brought their kids to Narnia.
	to knock doors for Donald Trump and make phone calls.
	And it's like, those are the people that I tried to remember when I went and worked in the administration.
	I was always thinking, or tried to remember to think, what would, these people couldn't afford to drop what they were doing, come move to DC and vie for a job in the administration.
	They would have loved to do that.
	There were girls that were my age that worked at the volunteer place that had, you know, kids and were scraping by, but they would have killed.
	So they were always asking me, they were like, what's it like in D.C.?
	Like, oh my God, like, were you at the White House?
	Like, da-da-da.
	So I tried to keep up with these people, but it's like, they would have killed to work in this administration.
	So I tried to remember, you know, what would these people want us to do?
	Well, when we're at State Department and it's like, oh, well, we're offering to send you on some trip for virtually no reason to go to a conference to basically support policies we were sent here to defeat, and half the political appointees go along with it because they want to go to Brussels, is disgusting.
	It's not something that I...
	I really tried to remember, you know, who we were actually working for.
	And it's not always possible, you know.
	You know what it's like.
	I mean, we fought so many issues that certain ones you lose.
	But I just think that got really lost, you know, and a lot of people started politicking, ambition kicks in, people are like padding their resumes.
	And I mean, this is something I think the next administration we have, we have got to do what we said we were going to do.
	Question number one, personnel.
	Question number one, personnel, and bring people from not in D.C., which may mean providing them stipends to get them- Bring them from Vegas.
	To bring them from Vegas, bring them from Oklahoma, bring them from wherever.
	And I mean, what happened?
	Like, we can't just assume- Like, how can we think we're going to staff an administration that's going to be America first and just have people who happen to have been working on the Hill?
	I mean, are you kidding me?
	So that's, we talk about, we tend to get in, you and I obviously agree on this, this is how we met.
	We met, what, year one in the administration?
	We met at a party in DC where I chastised you for your language.
	Young lady, don't use language like that in front of me.
	And I think that's how we connected.
	No, that is how we connected.
	Because then I said, like, no, it's not my fault.
	I was raised by really insane people in Hollywood.
	I've had no upbringing.
	It's amazing I can use an i-4.
	Who raised you, young woman?
	Ah, in that case, exempted.
	Exempted.
	That's exactly what happened.
	Wolverines.
	Exempted.
	Yeah, Wolverines.
	Carry on.
	At ease.
	All right.
	We've got to talk about what you've done since then.
	You're back in the culture war.
	Quick question.
	Does the Deep State exist, Amanda Milius?
	I think we've solved this one.
	You and I, I mean, and all of your guests.
	Yes, obviously it does.
	And I mean, we look at where we're seeing it.
	Talk about Deep State back to the thing we started this conversation with Arnold and Vindman.
	Yes.
	Seditious.
	One of them who actually tries to get a president removed because he was disturbed by what his president was doing and it was his duty to defend- Not just what his president was doing, what the president he was supposed to be serving was doing to this man's home country.
	that he happened to be allowed to work on.
	Where he was born.
	Yes, let's be clear.
	For those who forget, Alexander Sachin was born in the Ukraine and more than once was offered the position of Secretary of Defense of the Ukraine as a serving colonel in the U.S. Army.
	Very, very strange.
	But then, of course, his new buddies with this person.
	Screw your freedom.
	So, the deep state.
	It does exist.
	She's seen it.
	She has fought it for several years inside the Trump administration.
	And then she did something that, honestly, at the time I bit my tongue.
	I said, it's never going to work.
	You're a crazy woman.
	But she took an amazing work, Lee Smith's book, The Plot Against the President, You can watch the movie she made from it at p8tpmovie.com.
	She comes to my house a few months before it's supposed to be finished and say, oh yeah you're like interview number three and we've got 48 left and yeah this will be released in eight weeks don't worry about it.
	So I just humored her and we sat there for a few hours while she interviewed me and I have to say I love your work.
	I am a huge fan of Amanda Milius.
	But when I saw the movie, I just had a doff because you took a hugely complex issue that goes from opposition research dossiers paid for by Hillary Clinton to CIA assets trying to
	trap George Papadopoulos in British pubs to Mike Flynn being accused of doing something that was absolutely his duty to do all the way through, you know, the Russia collusion hoax on Capitol Hill.
	And you crunched it into what, 100 minutes?
	90 minutes.
	90 minutes.
	Yeah.
	Amazing.
	How much footage is left?
	Well, we did.
	We know we have over 70 hours of footage and we did 40 interviews.
	No, we did 35 interviews in 40 days.
	Like a month and a half.
	Yeah.
	And then the way that I know I did it in under 100 days is because when I first got out of the administration, the first thing I did is come do an interview with you here.
	And this was before the administration was over.
	This was like 10 days after you left or something.
	Literally 10 days after I left.
	And I hadn't even announced the movie.
	I announced it I don't even think I announced it.
	I said I was doing a project, and you knew what it was, but I didn't even announce it.
	And you were like, are you gonna finish this project in, um, I don't know, by the election?
	And I was like, that's a hundred days away.
	Like, yes, I am gonna do it.
	And you were like, uh-huh.
	And I mean, it's amazing.
	I mean...
	No, congratulations.
	It's crazy.
	So everybody needs to see it.
	Amanda Milius' movie, The Plot Against the President, P-A-T-P-Movie.com.
	We, oh my gosh, Eric, will you find, eventually, we'll mention it later in the interview, I need the URL for Rich Higgins' GoFundMe page because we'll mention We'll mention the incredible special showing you had of the plot against the president here in D.C.
	and why you did that.
	But first, Amanda, that experience, that fire hose of filmmaking about the swamp, the deep state, what kind of an experience was that like for you after you'd been inside the administration as a former deputy assistant in the State Department?
	And was it even more shocking than your time in the administration?
	I'd say so, because the thing about being in government is it's so slow.
	And when you have passion about something, what you feel is that you're just constantly held back by like bungee cords.
	So then the moment that I was out and I was able to hit the ground running with like my team, my people, we were able to, you know, just everybody had energy.
	People were like telling me, you know, everybody had the right attitude.
	They were like, we're honored to work on this.
	Nobody was doing it for the wrong reasons.
	Everybody was like on board.
	And so to be able to hit the ground running and have that much energy and be that busy and that occupied with something, it felt great.
	It was really, really good because I could do something about it.
	Like the whole three years in government, you saw terrible things happening and you couldn't do anything about it.
	You're really held back.
	So when we were able to do that, I mean, it was it was great.
	And I think the people we interviewed, I mean, yourself included, we were with you for a while and it was a very Like, Fundamentals interview, and I don't know that anybody has asked a lot of these people what they saw and what happened.
	Like, I don't know about you, but had anybody else come and said to you, like, how did you witness the Russiagate thing unfold?
	I'll tell you, the only long interview I had after I left the administration, before I did yours, was with PBS Frontline.
	In a nice hotel in Arlington with a massive crew of individuals where I sat for about two and a half, three hours.
	After which, you know, this happens all the time in terms of stealing IP.
	But, of course, nothing was used of my interview.
	Nothing.
	Except the phrase I used to describe who we were when we came into the administration, that we were an insurrection.
	Oh, amazing.
	That was stolen by the showmakers without accrediting it to the person they interviewed for two and a half hours.
	So it's a little bit of a different experience from the interview I had with your man.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, and I think that that's what a lot of people we talked to felt.
	Where, I mean, I've never heard you talk about some of the things that you had seen and experienced at the beginning that we outline in that.
	And why General Flynn had to be targeted?
	And why all of that, why General Flynn had to be targeted and the experience of in the transition building and a lot of the things that you touch on that, again, I keep saying this and I feel like I'm threatening it too many times that we're going to release the series.
	You have to.
	It has to turn into the plot against the president has to be a series.
	We're having meetings where you've got that much material.
	I know.
	I want to see the rest of your interviews with Professor Ed Luttwak.
	Oh, me too.
	I know.
	It's amazing.
	I want to put- He's one of the best people in the movie.
	He has such a sense of humor.
	He does.
	Rye.
	Rye.
	He did.
	It's very Rye.
	People have to see it once or twice before they get that he's maybe one of the funnier people.
	Him and Devin Nunes' communications director, Jack Langer- Jack Langer.
	I mean, it's amazing.
	Alright, it's The Plot Against the President.
	You've got to see it.
	P-A-T-P movie dot com.
	Not long ago, you had a special, special showing in a real cinema.
	Do you remember those?
	Movie theaters.
	Just outside the swamp of the plot against the president, Amanda.
	And it was for charity, not for a nameless big NGO, but for a specific person.
	Somebody was a colleague of mine and yours in the Trump administration, an individual called Rich Higgins, former I forgot to mention that last time.
	The book is awesome.
	who ended up in the National Security Council, was ousted by the deep state because of a memo he wrote for the president about the deep state.
	Which turned out to be true.
	Which turned out to be completely true.
	Also, you can buy the book.
	Yes.
	I forgot to mention that last time.
	The book is awesome.
	I need to bring you one if you don't have one.
	Please, I do not.
	But people should buy Rich Higgins' The Memo.
	Right, Rich Higgins' The Memo.
	But the reason you had this special showing is because he caught COVID and then afterwards had some very serious complications, almost bled out, almost died at home.
	He's recovering.
	It is incredibly costly.
	So my listeners have already donated when I mentioned this a couple of months ago.
	Guys, if you want to support a true MAGA warrior who's got little kids...
	Veteran.
	Veteran, almost died.
	Please go to the GoFundMe page for Rich Higgins.
	It's medical help for Rich Higgins.
	Just put in Rich Higgins, GoFundMe.com.
	It's medical help for Rich Higgins.
	Please make a donation to a guy who tried to save the administration, tried to save the president, and almost died as a result of the virus that came from China.
	Okay, big, big question for you now.
	And it's really the thing that I had this conversation, I think, with you yesterday.
	There's only one Amanda Milius, and this is a problem.
	This is a problem.
	You think we need more?
	We need more.
	We need many more.
	We need, like, berserkers are fun, but you need lots of berserkers if you want to win.
	And the trouble with the culture is that we have good businessmen who are conservatives, and we have good writers here and there, or good content makers.
	But we don't have a combination.
	We don't have somebody who says, I'm gonna make a movie in four months that's going to be... How successful was the product?
	I mean, it was crazy!
	It was the number one documentary of 2020.
	And it was close to being, if it's not actually, the number one highest performing political documentary of all time.
	And half the country still hasn't... That's the thing.
	We have surpassed Michael Moore on Amazon.
	So this is a lady who, with this literal guerrilla team of young filmmakers, within a matter of weeks, brings a movie, births a movie, that is important, significant, and hugely successful, which you never see.
	And I'm fed up.
	I'm sorry I bang this box now and again, but I'm fed up with the crappy films made by conservatives.
	I know.
	I talk about this all the time.
	That are just like, bang you over the head, Well, no.
	They think because they read a book that they know how to make movies.
	It is a situation that is particular to filmmaking.
	Because people go to movies and they have opinions about them, they think they can make them.
	It's weird.
	You don't see people do that with being a lawyer or being a doctor or anything else.
	I'd give you some heart surgery, okay?
	But they literally think that, and so they're like, oh, I read this book, I really care about this issue, I'm gonna do interviews, and then I will have made a movie.
	And you're like, no, you don't even watch good movies!
	Like, how are you gonna do- they have no aesthetic, they have no, like, style, and not only- not just aesthetic and style, but being like- you have to be, like, fascistically dedicated to the aesthetic.
	Like, it's one of those things that's very... Did she just say that?
	Media matters.
	Did she just say that?
	Fascistically dedicated aesthetic.
	You can't even spell that, you sad little mama's boys.
	Get back into your basement.
	Carry on, sorry.
	It's true.
	Okay, so what do we do about it?
	We can't clone you, okay, even if we're ethically viable.
	So that's why I've hammered away at creating the production company I have, the way that I have, and the business model.
	A.M.D.C.
	1 A.M.D.C.
	1 A.M.D.C.
	That's when you wake up, right?
	That's when you wake up.
	1 A.M.D.C.
	It has a dual meaning.
	It's my initials, and it's also 1 A.M.
	in D.C.
	And then the other great thing is that if anything goes wrong with it, I can just make 2 A.M.D.C.
	and on the line.
	But here's my issue.
	So we've recognized, we've diagnosed the problem.
	That we've got good businessmen, a couple of good artists, but never the twain shall meet unless it's Amanda.
	Clavin says to me, and Clavin is the guy I respect the most as a cultural, you know, touchstone for me.
	Andrew Clavin said, well, it's okay.
	We have to just build our own ecosystem.
	We have to have the award systems.
	No, it doesn't work because... We have to have the colleges and the schools for filmmaking.
	We don't have the time for that.
	Also, but it doesn't help because our people are already on our side.
	The reason that a lot of people get after me because they're like, oh, you know, and this is fine.
	They're like, oh, the movie's on Amazon and iTunes.
	And, you know, half the time the right, They get censored a lot, but they also will fail at the production basics that give these places an excuse to kick them off.
	Yes.
	We have to be perfect.
	Like, I spent probably as much on lawyers as I did on production because I know that we have to be perfect.
	And it's not fair, but it's the case.
	And the reason that a lot of people, you know, they'll say, well, I don't want to give money to Amazon or iTunes.
	And that's fine.
	That's why it's also available on Rockfin, which is a free speech friendly Yes.
	platform.
	But, and we need to support those neutral platforms, because I'm not saying that these other ones aren't bad.
	They are.
	The problem is that's where mom and dad America are watching things.
	Right, right.
	The ease of flipping through your TV, and I'm talking about people on the fence, because this movie's been very effective at convincing people on the fence, because it's not It's indisputable.
	Sensational.
	It's indisputable.
	And if they understand, people are like, okay, well, it's Russiagate.
	That was one thing.
	If they understand that Russiagate, the thing the media told them was real for three and a half years, that it was that provably false, it breaks the dam.
	You know what I mean?
	It puts a crack in their ability to understand that all of these things are false narratives.
	So that's why having it on Amazon and iTunes and things like that, these big platforms that regular, I mean, non-political Americans are on, it's so important.
	You can't just release these things.
	You can't win over new people on conservative ghetto applications.
	Yeah, just like small applications that are just for us and constantly making – look, there's nothing wrong with religious movies.
	I think they're great.
	I might make one one day.
	There's nothing wrong with movies about social issues, I think they're great, I might make one one day.
	But not every movie can be about abortion and Jesus, and you expect to convince- what about like the people who aren't As a lot of fairly religious people would say, living really sinful lives.
	The left has told the youth that they can't be artists and be conservative, that they can't live in the suburbs and be artists.
	There was a whole push in the 80s and 90s in film and in media to basically say you can't be a normal American family.
	These people won't accept you if you're weird and you're an artist and you're unique.
	And so we need to push back against that messaging and constantly beating the social issues over the head or or just or, you know, we may have to like embrace some.
	I'm not saying bad issues because I am very socially conservative, but you got to let your kids go to art school.
	Mainline issues.
	Mainline issues, but more so like, you know, if you've got, like, we've gotta let our kids be artists because otherwise we can't complain when we lose the culture war.
	The reason that this Generation Z, the Zoomers, I have a lot of faith in is because it became cool to be right-wing.
	Because as we expected, we are the counterculture now.
	And that finally is happening, and so you're finally seeing all the little weirdos that I used to hang out with when I was that age Hanging out at weird galleries in East L.A.
	and like living in New York and like da-da-da-da-da all this like riff-raff culture.
	It's actually good because they're embracing, there's a lot of movements right now that are turning post-politics and are pushing away from because the liberal orthodoxy is so crushing that this was bound to happen and the right had better not refuse it and they can't screw this up because all the energy is with us and we got to just keep that going.
	What a great phrase, the liberal orthodoxy.
	So, back to the question, or the answer that was posited to me by Andrew Clavin, that we have to create our own little microcosms of conservative... Build your own internet?
	No, no, he was saying conservative film scores.
	And my issue is, A, we don't have the time, and B, it's sort of... Who's going to teach them?
	Number one.
	And number two, I look at the history of- And what are they gonna base it on?
	Like, imagine the movies that they show them.
	When is she gonna stop talking?
	I know, but like, it's just- When is she gonna stop talking?
	That one got me going.
	Like, that concept.
	Go ahead, carry on.
	I'm like, I'm actually getting annoyed.
	Because you're like, okay, a conservative film school.
	I can understand there's been lots of institutions actually that have succeeded that are about getting conservative young people into Hollywood and mentoring them and keeping them going.
	Right.
	That's very important.
	But the whole point is to get away from politics in the culture.
	You're not supposed to lecture people.
	That's what the left does.
	You're supposed to just be good at making movies.
	And, like, the point is not to swing the pendulum so far that it's like, OK, so the left made every movie be about politics.
	We're going to indoctrinate on our side.
	Right.
	I don't want to do that.
	Nobody wants to do that.
	You just want to see good movies.
	And that actually works.
	Remember, I mean, even the movies from, like, the 90s, like, Terminator 2 was a great pro-American movie.
	Or what is it?
	Toy Story 3 is the most pro-capitalist movie that's ever been made.
	Also, like, Toy Story.
	I mean look at my dad's movies like even he was who's considered quite political.
	The stories were good.
	You don't want to go like if my dad went to or if I had gone to conservative film school, I would suck.
	That's the soundbite for this episode of America First one-on-one.
	If I had gone to a conservative film school, I'd have sucked.
	Look, Amanda, so here's, how do we translate this?
	Help me, help me to be practical.
	I look at the really good seminal movies of the last 80 years and I look at, you know, whether it's, you know, Casablanca or whether it's One of Your Fathers or The Wind in the Line and so forth, they are primarily Amazing stories that, without you knowing it, touch upon key eternal issues.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	We need to do that.
	We don't need to make concerted movies.
	We need to make the best bloody stories that aren't communist.
	Well, that's weirdly the path I was on before.
	That was my goal, right?
	When I did Lotus Gun, the reason I did it is to test out that theory.
	That I could make a movie that was not ideological on its face, but that smuggled in in the weed basket.
	Good arguments.
	Did you get that biblical reference?
	Smuggled in in a reed basket.
	No, I said the weed basket, but I'm glad that you helped me there.
	I should have said that.
	That would have been a little bit better for this audience.
	So how do we do more of that?
	So what is the avenue of attack?
	Our people need to fund this stuff.
	Our donors need to get it through their head.
	But is it going to be one AMDC productions?
	I'm just one production company.
	But that's what I mean.
	Is it going to be like we need 30 of them?
	Yeah, we need more of them.
	Do we have enough people?
	I think so.
	I think we will.
	And I think the one thing we've got to start doing, because conservatives love to be their own island, where it's like, oh, well, you do movies too.
	I don't want to talk to you.
	Like, I'm going to promote myself and nobody else.
	Like, I ran into this a handful of times where there were people that were Russiagate experts, people that had been very big on the Russiagate thing.
	I found out that I was doing the movie and then they were like, oh, who is she?
	I hate her because she did this movie and I didn't.
	And you're like, Who gives a shit?
	Like, I'm sorry, it's like- We'll beep it out, don't worry.
	But like, really?
	Like, that's where we're gonna be?
	Like, we need to be- And these are people who say they're conservative.
	Though they're big conservatives.
	And a lot of this is with, you know, I gotta say, a lot of the people that are on Fox.
	There's a whole situation with like, who's allowed to be on what show and like- Oh yes.
	Who did whatever, and there's a whole thing I've discovered.
	It's very Hollywood.
	It's very perverse is what it is.
	It is.
	But I think it's smoothed out now, but I think that what I'm trying to do is any right-wing filmmaker, there's a lot, and I try to promote them or to draw people's attention to them as well, because I think it's also because I want to be mostly a producer.
	I want to direct probably once every two years.
	You can't do it more than that.
	It's exhausting.
	But what I really like is that I'm gearing up now and I've got the infrastructure now to basically be able to produce many movies a year and have a hand in the quality and the general style, but not direct them myself.
	And then you're giving opportunities to directors and to all these different craftspeople To make good material.
	Alright, so what is your advice?
	I always try to end these one-on-one discussions with some very concrete, so what now, calls to action.
	Don't let the left own art.
	That's why the Claven thing drives me nuts, because it says that every film school and every canon is therefore left, because we have to create our own.
	Like, no, the main great directors of America, they've all been extremely patriotic.
	I mean, look at, like, you know, Billy Wilder.
	I mean, these people came to the United States as immigrants and they were super patriotic.
	And so it's like, no, we need to just reown all of that.
	So what does that mean in praxis?
	So if we've got very rich people listening to this show, if we've got people who actually have a background in culture, in the arts, have gone to the schools, what is the—I'm going to use a socialist term—what is the five-year plan to win back the culture?
	Where does it begin, Amanda?
	Well, it has to begin with the funding, because you look at the left and you look at how much money they set on fire on things that move the needle this big, but there's so much of it that it's an overwhelming.
	Collective effect.
	Yes.
	So what we need to do is, and I pitch this a lot of times, and once I sit down and talk to people, they understand it.
	But I'm like, hey, you're putting in X amount of money to a political campaign per year if you're a big Republican donor.
	You're lighting that money on fire, whether they win or lose, you're not getting it back.
	There's a reason people do that, I understand that, but if you put half or the same amount of money into a film, a production company real large, etc., or an independent news organization, or whatever you want to do, you're not only, you know, you're probably going to get your money back, and you're moving the culture forever.
	The movie lives forever.
	It's not just one campaign season long.
	It lasts forever and it has a huge impact.
	And guess what?
	It's an investment.
	It's not a donation.
	That's the whole reason that I'm so careful about how we do have a successful business.
	A lot of times these right-wing Creators will raise a bunch of money, they'll crowdfund, they'll put it out for free.
	I understand why they do that, there's a very specific reason why they have to do that, and it's a legal issue, but we have to be able to make content that makes a profit, because otherwise it's not an industry.
	Otherwise, no one's going to invest in it over and over again.
	We have to make these, and that's what we are, we're entrepreneurs, we should be able to do this.
	And so that's why I'm so dedicated to making this a A good business idea because then people really understand it and they're willing to let me take risks if I can explain, you know, I might have some wacky ideas and like mom and dad Republican donor may not get it like off the bat, but like trust me and this is going to be an effective company.
	Well, all I can say is I wish I'd put some money into the plot against the president because I'd be a happy investor now.
	Watch the movie, PATPMovie.com.
	Check out 1AMDCProd.com.
	That's her production company.
	That's 1AMDCProd.com.
	And lastly, on Twitter, show this lady some love at AmandaMilius.
	God bless you.
	Keep doing what you do.
	We can win this one, my friends.
	As ever, keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
	Never give in.

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