Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Will Biden pardon Cuomo?
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First, we've got Biden confusing World War II heroes, the Tuskegee Airmen, with victims of a decades-long human syphilis experiment.
There's a reason why it's been harder to get African Americans, initially, to get vaccinated.
Because they're used to being experimented on, the Tuskegee Airmen and others.
At the G7 summit, Biden tried to talk about U.S.-Russia cooperation in Syria, but it came out sounding like this.
We could work together with Russia, for example, Libya we can save the lives of people in for example in in Libya.
Next up is whatever this is.
The question is whether or not we should be in a position where you are why can't the the the experts say we know that this virus is in fact It's going to be, or excuse me, we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved but permanently approved.
Then there's this awful moment from a commencement address.
I love those brettes in her hair, man.
I tell you what, I'm looking at her, she looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there with a little lady in her legs.
That poor sign language interpreter.
And here he is just flat out making stuff up.
Anyway.
And if we don't do— I should drive an 18-wheeler, man.
Yeah.
Oh, I wish that— Oh, yeah?
That's awesome.
I got to.
Do any of these snippets have massive political implications?
No, obviously not, and that's not the point.
The point is the same media who spent days talking about this tweet now completely ignore stuff like this.
Are there people in the Republican Party who think we're sucking the blood out of kids?
I'm not sure.
The story here isn't the bumbling old guy.
It's about the media who are doing everything that they can to cover for him.
Yes, nicely put.
That's the Media Research Center's montage of Biden gaffes.
Why do we play that for you?
By the way, this is America First on the Salem Radio Network, and I'm Sebastian Gorka, because we have the latest footage.
It's truly If we take the politics out of it, it's truly shocking.
We have Biden carrying a briefcase, which in itself is weird.
You don't usually see presidents carrying their own briefcases.
Walking from Marine One that has landed on the southern lawn back into the White House, but not knowing how to get back into the White House.
Yes, actually walking off the path Having, and in daylight, this is not in the dark, this is not blindfold, having to be guided by the Secret Service agents back to the actual proper entrance into the West Wing.
This is the man who bears the title of the President of the United States.
And as the Media Research Center pointed out, the President, President Trump, once tweeted the word, covfefe, which has become a cultural icon for many on the right.
And that was what?
Grist for the mill.
For days.
For weeks.
Oh, look what he wrote on Twitter!
But this...
This, this creepy, whether it's the sniffing the hair of the children, whether it's commenting at a graduation about a little girl's barrettes and how she looks 19 years old, doesn't she?
Oh, yum, yum.
Whether it's his creepiness, or whether it's just the lies.
I used to be a truck driver?
In which alternate universe?
The one in which you weren't senile when you became the President of the United States?
That universe?
Or whether it's just the mumbling non sequiturs again and again and again.
But it's not just incompetence.
It's also narrative.
Let's play another montage, a delightful montage, from those who just, well, were in love with the governor of New York.
Cut to.
Governor Andrew Cuomo, you are the man.
What?
So now that you're the love guv, you've kind of transcended politics.
You're more of like a national sex symbol, which says you'll probably get more dates than votes.
Do you think that you are an attractive person now?
Because you are single and ready to mingle?
You are well liked among the ladies.
People knowing that you're single and they think you're good looking.
Like the author of this op-ed entitled, Help!
I think I'm in love with Andrew Cuomo.
We heard though that you had a crush on our boyfriend, Andrew Cuomo.
everyone does right he's fantastic it's okay these feelings are perfectly natural many americans experience moments of being at least andrew curious if not fully cuomo sexual trevor you call yourself a cuomo sexual and i i i agree with you i feel like i'm a cuomo sexual too my celebrity crush right now you are governor cuomo what did i just watch i mean please
Nobody prepared me for that adequately.
The Love Gov?
Cuomo?
Sexual?
Just stop here.
We've got four minutes left in this segment and this deserves four minutes.
Okay, you're lying.
Unless it's a cult.
Unless it truly is a cult that everybody from... Who is that?
Ben Stiller?
To Trevor Noah, to Ellen DeGeneres.
Does she still have a show?
Has she been canned?
Did she can herself?
All of them making sexual advances?
Labeling their sexual attraction, which is weird for a lesbian anyway, to Andrew Cuomo.
I mean, Number one, if it's real, it's just creepy!
And number two, if it's all fake, which I hope it's fake, look at the man!
Look at the man!
He looks like a troll!
He really does!
I'm not saying his younger brother's handsome, but Randy Andy, not exactly the cover of GQ.
And I don't usually talk about these things, but when you're doing this perverse, sexually charged love fest, what are you talking about?
Okay, I'm gonna do it again.
I'm gonna take my life in my hands.
I got shocked last time when I asked Jeff if Kwon was going to resign.
He got it right.
He nailed it within 24 hours.
I have to ask the rest of our crew, what are these people doing?
Is it real?
Is it a cult?
Or are they putting it on and even then it's worse?
Let's start with the man who always has my six, Eric.
That clip, your reaction.
I think if nothing else, it was probably just born out of that they needed an anti-Trump figure, and Cuomo at the time was- But it's one thing to have an anti-Trump figure, to say that you actually are a Cuomo-sexual, Eric.
That's how desperate they were to get rid of Trump.
Anybody, they saw him as like the hope, like this guy, assuming Biden and Harris lost the election, like this guy will be the one to end the era of Trump.
And for that, they basically, yeah, it's almost a sexual fetish for them to be that anti-Trump.
Professor Shad?
So actually, I think this is a long-running disorder on the left, where because of a disordering of affections, in order for something to be good, it has to be something you want to sleep with.
Wow, that's good.
It's like, you know, there was this billboard that went up in New York about, you know, refugees coming through, you know, more people to have sex with, etc, etc, where what matters You know where it started though?
I think you're right.
I think you might be right.
And the only way for them to interact with it, because they're so sex-addled, is the sex element.
You know where it started, though?
I think you're right.
I think you might be right.
You know who started it?
Calvin Klein.
Really?
No, seriously.
You're advertising underpants, but it's got to be homoerotic?
It's got to be a 60-foot billboard in Times Square that's... Come on!
It's a pair of underpants!
And we see it all over the... This happened a lot with Beto O'Rourke.
Yes!
You know, Beto O'Rourke, not an ugly man, incredibly plain.
But if you were to read... If you were on Twitter... Oh, it was perverse.
It was insane what those middle-aged moms were up to on Twitter.
I like it.
I like that analysis.
Let's go to the man who won last time.
Wow, did he win.
What's he going to say now?
Jeff, your interpretation of that creepiness, do they actually mean it?
It's explained this easily.
That was right after they had about 20 Democrats run for president and they didn't like anybody and they were looking for anyone to grab onto.
But that guy, I mean, look at him!
They were hoping he could be the guy.
You just went to that whole primary where all the candidates sucked.
Not even the Democrats liked him.
It was anybody but Trump.
And that's what they were just trying to get in.
Get behind anybody.
It's just too weird.
We try and understand.
That's why we're here.
Sometimes it's just too perverse.
Am I right, Zacky Poo?
How's it going out there?
Media matters?
Hey!
Where are my transcripts?
Get typing!
Seriously!
Do it!
Now!
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
Next, Dr. Peter McCullough.
You don't want to miss a second.
That's six.
Sleepy, creepy.
Back on.
Okay, give me a moment.
Cut six.
Playing cut six.
He didn't respond.
We're taking action to address gas prices as well.
Who what?
He didn't respond about how to be introduced.
I'll ask him.
Okay.
Okay.
We're taking action to address gas prices as well.
Today, gas prices are lower than they were early in this decade.
But they're still high enough to create a pinch on working families.
Wow.
He left out the last four years.
Yeah, funny that.
Um, give me.
Ten.
And high capacity means what kind of numbers are we talking about?
Yeah, so I think the consensus has been around 10.
There are a number of reasons why.
So 10 and above would be high?
Yeah, well, I think, let's say 10 and below are OK or reasonable, above would be regulated.
And I think this comes basically based on a guess.
You know, it's sort of like picking a speed limit.
It should be 55 or 65.
And then how long is cut 12, Jeff?
52.
52.
Is it, in other ways, like a speed limit?
Like, can you go 10 over and not have trouble?
It's a guess.
It's a guess.
A guess.
Are you gonna connect to him?
I'll dial him right now.
Oh, let's do this.
Oh, okay.
Uh, we gotta do the... Oh, that's right.
No, we gotta connect via Skype.
Oh, Skype!
Yeah.
It's alright, everybody Skype's good.
Good.
Ringing at far end.
Two minutes.
Hello, can you hear us?
Yes, I can.
All right, wonderful.
Let me go ahead and pop that audio up just a little bit.
The mics are live on our internet broadcast.
No, kill the mics.
Kill the mics.
I can't, Steve.
Remember, we can't do it on Skype.
That's right, so sorry.
You don't have a headset or a pair of headphones with a microphone, Professor?
Yes, I do.
Because it's very room echo-y.
Okay, let me get a... - And then I'm going to, what do I have here?
Oh, I'm free here.
Okay.
Then I will tee up.
Cut five.
Cut five masks.
Yep.
Okay.
Can you give me the two shot?
Are you on Twitter by the way, sir?
Or what would you prefer in your, uh, Chiron?
Yes.
Professor, what, what affiliation would you like in your, uh, Chiron?
Just use America Out Loud Talk Radio, the McCullough Report.
America Out Loud Talk Radio, McCullough Report.
You can search it on Google real quick and get... We've got it.
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Dr. Gorka, no introductions.
I'm getting a lawsuit.
OK.
I won't do any introductions.
We'll just mention the McCullough report.
That's fine.
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Lawsuits tend to come up.
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I I have to keep checking because the numbers keep on growing greater and greater.
The video we posted from Dr. Dan stuck at the top of my Twitter feed.
Oh my God, it broke!
It just broke it.
Five million views already.
That's just on one platform.
I think we have at least three million views on Instagram as well.
Why?
Because it's six minutes of facts.
About the coronavirus, vaccines and masks.
And that's why we are here.
We're pushing back on the censoriousness of the mainstream media and new plans coming out of the White House.
Fresh from the man who bears the title of President, Cut5.
I don't believe that I do, thus far.
We're checking that.
But there are, on the federal workforce, I can.
And I think that people should understand, seeing little kids, I mean, four, five, six years old, in hospitals on ventilators, and some of them passing, not many, but some of them passing, It's almost, I mean, it's just, well, I should not characterize it beyond that.
Why wouldn't you characterize it beyond that?
What are you planning beyond the federal mandate of children wearing masks in schools?
Let's ask a man who is actually a medical practitioner.
He hosts the McCullough Report on America Out Loud talk radio.
He's been a guest with us before on this show and my Newsmax show.
Dr. Peter McCullough, welcome back to America First.
Thanks for having me.
Dr. McCullough, could you start with just addressing this idea of are we facing a rash of infants in hospital on ventilators because of the coronavirus?
What are the figures that parents should be aware of when it comes to their children?
No, it's not the case.
We currently have the Delta variant, which is nearly 100 percent of cases in the United States, and it looks like it's spread And contracted equally by those who are vaccinated or unvaccinated.
That's the reason why we're seeing more cases.
But it's not more serious in children.
It's very mild.
It's like a cold.
And if children do have severe symptoms, they should be treated early to prevent hospitalization and death.
Can you talk to us about this?
People are saying that this is unheard of, this is an outrage, this is why everybody has to be masked, this issue of people who have been vaccinated but who are spreading the disease.
Is this unusual?
Is this justification for everyone who is healthy and has a strong immune system to be masked indoors?
No, the virus is only spread from symptomatic person to another person.
So asymptomatic spread is negligible.
Let's unpack that for those who aren't medical professionals.
So if you aren't demonstrating the symptoms of the virus, if you seem healthy, then you're not spreading the virus.
If you are sick, if you are debilitated, that's the danger of the spread.
Is that a correct layman's translation?
That's correct.
And even the World Health Organization, as of June 25th, says to stop the asymptomatic testing.
It's only symptomatic people that spread it to others.
So we need actually good rules at school to remove sick kids and not have sick kids come to school.
That's the most important thing, not masks.
Can you talk to us about masks in general?
We have contradictory information that cloth masks are fine.
We have the N95.
That's the only one that really works.
So from a medical perspective, from the perspective of molecular density, the size of particles that transmit disease, what should the average American know about the efficacy or the relevance of masks?
The virus is about one micron in size.
The masks filter out three microns, so the virus moves easily through masks.
That's one of the reasons why they don't work.
There's been 12 randomized trials, including the Dan mask trial, showing public masking doesn't work.
I think it's reasonable.
I have a mask here, here in the hospital, so when I leave the room, I'll wear a mask.
I think people working at close range in hospitals, dentists, hairdressers, I think it's fine, mainly to prevent a big sneeze or an inoculum.
But public masking doesn't have any support in scientific literature.
In the world of your colleagues in psychiatry and in mental health, are there any studies, is there any expectation or any conventional wisdom with regards to masking children for long periods such as eight hours a day in school when those children are healthy?
Is there precedence for that?
Well, no, there's no precedent.
And I'm not an expert in this, but I have talked to experts who are, including Dr. Mark McDonald, child psychologist and psychiatrist in LA.
And it's clear that the children actually need to see facial expressions.
They need to learn how to form words.
And it's very important to actually see the human face.
So to mask the human face and then try to teach it, particularly at the lower levels, I think it makes sense.
It's going to be deleterious to education.
And with regards to prior viruses, and there is an attempt to make comparisons to smallpox and other very, very dangerous viruses of the past, the idea that this novel coronavirus should be met with a mandatory vaccination for all people of all ages.
Is the science there to justify such an ahistoric response, Dr. McCullough?
No, it's not.
In fact, it looks like it's backfiring.
Right now in Israel, Singapore and Iceland, more than 75% of all the COVID-19 cases are in those who are vaccinated.
In the United Kingdom, of the 300,000 patients with the Delta variant in the August 6 UK technical briefing, they have 300,000 cases.
50% have been partially or fully vaccinated.
Fortunately, the mortality rate with Delta is very low.
But of those who did die, 65% were vaccinated.
So it looks like the vaccine has no effect against the Delta variant.
And in Iceland, things were very quiet.
For a long time, 338,000 people on the island, they only had 30 COVID deaths.
And once they got to a very high density of those vaccinated, there was an explosion of cases.
So what is the lesson from prior outbreaks and the practice, the praxis of vaccinology?
Who should be receiving a vaccine, all other things being equal?
You know, I didn't guide the program, but from the very beginning, if I did, if we had a safe and effective vaccine, I think it would only be for the highest risk seniors.
And those who are nursing home workers, et cetera, would have been very limited.
The concern I would have is that we would promote a super variant or a dominant variant, which has in fact happened.
Paper from Neeson and colleagues from Boston and Mayo Clinic have shown, once we get to more than 25% of the population vaccinated, we allow one of the many different strains that exist to become super dominant.
And that's what's happened with the Delta variant.
Fortunately, Delta is milder than Alpha, Beta, or Lambda.
It's actually a milder virus, thank goodness, But it is a dominant variant, and it's obvious that even our CDC director a few days ago was on the air telling the public that vaccinated patients actually acquire it, they carry it, and they pass it to others.
He is the host of the McCullough Report, Dr. Peter McCullough, America Out Loud Talk Radio.
He's going to be with us for another segment, telling you the things you will not hear elsewhere that you're not allowed to know why, because there's some overarching narrative that is dominating the legacy media.
For those of you who keep asking me in the last 24 hours, since that video went viral with millions of views just before we started the show, on my Twitter feed I posted the URL of those 22 studies that support the video, the findings of Dr. Dan Stock.
You can download those back with Dr. McCullough after these messages.
Clear.
Four minutes.
That was excellent.
Can we still try the headphone?
You know, I can't get them to work.
I have a big ball, but my good ones I left at home.
Oh, okay.
No worries.
So you talk about the super variant is really related or can be related to vaccinations.
Yeah, because, you know, six months ago we had 14 different variants, and Delta was one of them.
We had Delta, and it was in the background.
But once we provided what's called a non-lethal ecological pressure, we actually allowed one variant to emerge as the dominant variant.
Now we are at 100% Delta.
100% Delta.
So.
Incredible.
And so the reason why it's a big deal is that the vaccinated people are getting it.
So what's happening is the government, when they get COVID-19 test results, they don't know the vaccine status.
So when people go into emergency care and they get a test, there's no recording of the vaccine status.
No, I don't think it does.
But I'm not an expert, so don't ask me.
point that it's a crisis of the unvaccinated but in fact they actually don't know the vaccine status at the point of getting the COVID-19 test result they don't know it all right we have to mention that and when it comes to the what you mentioned the micron size the one micron does the n95 stop one microns or not no i don't think it does but i'm not an expert so don't ask me okay i don't think it does
uh you don't have anything in this segment Relief factor though, of course, for the live read.
Yeah, yeah.
Good.
I'll tell you, this vaccine has made it a real mess.
You know, about half the country doesn't want it and people are being told they're going to lose their job and everything.
The tension is so incredible right now.
Just the whole idea that you don't have a choice, and if you've had the coronavirus like I have, that individuals like that... I mean, I've never heard of a vaccine that gives you more T cell antibodies than a vaccine.
I'm not a medic.
You can't improve upon natural immunity.
Do you know there's never been a bona fide case of someone who had it, well documented, like you and me, getting it a second time?
- Wow.
- Oh, there we go.
You froze for a moment, we're back. - What were your therapeutics?
Was it hydroxy or ivermectin when you had it?
Yeah, I had pulmonary involvement.
I got on an FDA approved protocol.
I took hydroxy, azithro, I had to take prednisone, colchicine.
I had to run the whole circuit.
Colchicine as well, isn't that for gout usually as well?
Yeah, the largest randomized trial in COVID-19 called CoCorona is 4,000 patients.
That's a positive trial for colchicine.
You don't hear any word of it.
No, I've never heard colchicine with reference to coronavirus.
It's got the best data.
4,000 placebo-controlled trials.
Do they know the mechanics of how the colchicine works?
It reduces the inflammation.
The white blood cells rely on microtubule formation for cell division.
It seems to work really well in COVID-19.
I use it all the time for COVID-19.
Fascinating.
Fascinating.
I had a tiny attack of gout a couple of years ago.
Colchicine is incredible.
You take colchicine and I swear within 40 minutes it was gone.
It was just truly a miracle drug.
It's $6.
These drugs we use for COVID-19, Do you know tens of thousands of people are being treated right now over telemedicine networks, and I bet our federal government has no idea.
Yeah, I bet.
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With the host of the McCullough Report on America Out Loud talk radio, Dr. Peter McCullough.
Let's just revisit what we were discussing in the break.
I have this assertion, I'm only a PhD of political science, so I will caveat it, that as an individual who's had the coronavirus last year, Who beat it.
Took me about three days.
I have more resistance.
I have more antibodies in me to the coronavirus than any vaccine could give me.
Is that a crazy assertion?
No, it's not.
In fact, you have a full library of antibodies, probably thousands of them.
IgD and IgA in the oral pharyngeal tract.
In addition, you have thousands of changes to natural killer cells, T helper cells, T presenter cells.
And even when those antibodies wane, there have been studies that show in the bone marrow, you have plasma cells that are ready to respond right away with more antibody production if you're re-exposed.
So natural immunity is robust, complete, and durable.
There's actually never been a bona fide second case of COVID-19 that's been confirmed by antigen and sequencing testing.
The only confusion out there is people testing positive on more than one occasion because of the false positivity of the nasal PCR.
So, this is crucial.
Did you just hear what the good doctor said?
There is no well-documented case of an individual catching coronavirus twice.
It is not, not sustained by documentation.
So, let's walk on down this track further, Dr. McCullough.
Talk to us about the record-keeping of these rapid care places that are doing the test, the PCR tests or the COVID tests.
That there really is some issue with the veracity of an accusation that only the unvaccinated are getting sick?
Well, we knew there was a problem because as of May 1st, the Center for Disease Control already had 10,000 vaccine failure cases that were spontaneously reported and pushed forward from departments of public health.
So the CDC categorized those cases.
They found out that the vaccine was failing At least 10,000 patients, 10,000 Americans, about 9% were hospitalized and 3% died.
And the CDC announced at that point in time, they were no longer going to track vaccine failures.
And it was because my understanding of this is that when people get a PCR test, there's no record keeping of their vaccine status.
Unless somebody had a vaccine card with them, how could they possibly prove it?
And when the data gets up to the recording center, all we're getting is positive tests reported.
So our case count is independent of whether or not someone's been vaccinated.
So without knowing that, I think there's an assumption that this is a crisis of the unvaccinated since we don't have the vaccine status on each patient as these tests are reported.
Stunning!
We don't record their status, therefore it is automatically logged as unvaccinated.
That's how you deny science when you make assertions based upon false data or faulty data.
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Therapeutics.
Nobody wants to talk about therapeutics in the mainstream media.
What kinds of things are being used successfully and how expensive are they?
Well, Americans certainly want to talk about therapeutics.
There are so many Americans getting sick right now with the Delta variant.
Fortunately, it's very easily treated.
High-risk patients over age 50 should get treatment.
The monoclonal antibodies, Regeneron antibodies, are available.
Seniors should demand them.
President Trump got them.
Beyond that, we use hydroxychloroquine, 200 supported studies.
Ivermectin, 60 supported studies.
Doxycycline and azithromycin.
We use inhaled budesonide, supported by two randomized trials.
Oral prednisone, supported by a meta-analysis of corticosteroids.
Colchicine, supported by the largest study in COVID-19, strongly positive.
And then lastly, we use full-dose aspirin, and then blood thinners, injectable Lovenox, supported by in-hospital studies.
So we use about four to six drugs in combination, high-risk patients, and we prevent hospitalization and death in the vast majority.
Okay, guys, that was a data dump from the good doctor.
We're going to post this video.
I think we're going to have in the little description all the names of the incredible therapeutics.
I've used them.
It works, trust me, as a patient.
Incredible information.
Dr. McCullough is going to join me on my Newsmax program.
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All right, what did you want to say?
That was great.
Yeah, um... Oh, okay.
He's already... Oh, he's gone.
Okay.
All right, uh, food.
Food!
Do you want to hear the audio?
Uh, yes, please.
And you walk away saying, wow, in some small measure, I made a difference in the life of somebody else.
And isn't that what it's all about?
And certainly, to me, this is about living the gospel and loving thy neighbor.
That is love!
All right, hang on, I'll try to eat you up.
That's good.
Alright.
That was his best.
That was good stuff, yeah.
That was epic.
That really was a tough one at the very end there.
You gotta call that, um... Yes.
The Truth About... What'd you wanna say?
COVID Therapeutics.
The Truth About COVID Therapeutics.
And then also Monologue and, um... Level.
Um... Monologue.
Alright, hang on.
From senile to perverse, today's Democrats.
From senile to perverse, today's Democrats.
America first, what's your name?
Democrats.
What'd you want to say?
Okay.
Okay, we got so many good cuts though.
I also want to take time to do that record, Shad wants you to do it.
Oh, yeah, let's do that real quick.
I think so.
Mic's back on.
Alright, I gotta make sure to do that next.
Oh, ins and outs.
Yeah, we just do that at the top of the hour.
What do you want next?
Uh, as in... You said something.
I'm saying that when we get to the next break, I'll send that to him.
Oh.
So which cuts do you wanna maybe go through?
Um, I gotta do... Well, line four hasn't called in a while.
I'm gonna tee up...
He was talking about me on Chris's show this morning.
I want to tee up the teacher.
How much time have we got?
Which segment is this?
This is D, so that's a two-minute segment.
Yeah.
1.59.
Yeah, I'm gonna do T, I'm gonna do her, and I might do Clay.
Clay.
Oh yeah, cut ten.
Yep.
Copy that.
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Oh!
Actually, um... Come in with eight, and then I'll do food for the pool.
Coming with Fredo.
Fredo.
Yeah, that's cut nine now, but yes.
Yeah, yeah.
It's cut nine now?
We had to do a little switcheroo.
What?
Don't do that to me.
Stay by.
Are you continuing to advise him?
Do you think that's an ethical conflict?
I think you got a job to do, and I'm letting you do it.
Thank you, sir.
Oh, that's so nice of him, Freda.
You're so kind as he goes from his motorboat to his pickup truck.
That's called real journalism.
We now know he was advising his brother, the governor, as he was hosting the show, interviewing his brother, the governor, on his show.
No, no conflict of interest there.
Oh, and by the way, what kind of truck was he driving, Jeff?
You had a look at it.
A big F-150.
Was it electric?
They don't even make electric ones do they?
I don't think so in that one.
It was one of the really big ones, the V8.
It wasn't like soy powered or something?
No, I think it was definitely the one that's bad for the environment.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
What?
Fredo?
You're driving a big F-150?
Petroleum powered V8?
You're going to have your democrat privileges revoked.
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Let's go to line one, Steve Columbus, Ohio.
Hey Seb, how you doing?
Not too bad, it's a little bit disgusting here in the swamp.
I think it's like 94 degrees outside and a 212% humidity, but we will survive.
Yeah, it's pretty nasty humidity in Ohio too.
So my question, I was curious about what you thought about the Cypress Emporium that Mike Lindell's been hosting.
I was watching a little bit of it and again, don't have as much time as I'd like to kind of research some of the doctors, some of the information they're putting out there.
I was curious what you thought about the validity of some of the reports he's putting out and if you have any thoughts on where this might go.
I have no idea where it will go because the GOP has no spine.
So even if Mike presents all the evidence required on a silver platter, who's going to do anything about it?
The GOP won't.
And you know the Supreme Court are a bunch of cowards when they refuse to even hear the case brought by Texas and 17 other states.
So look, I can't tell you what the last 48 hours of Mike's show has been like because I have a daily radio show.
In a weekly TV show to prep every single day.
I will say I followed it on social media last night.
I watched the first opening of the event and I have to say, Steve, that first little video he showed where this expert sitting in a darkened room in front of a microphone, I think some kind of cyber expert, that first six minute video was very impressive, Steve.
Did you catch that?
Yes, I did.
I agree with you.
Again, like you said, it's cruise worthy and with If the algorithms they're talking about and the things they're finding in these machines, how they were manipulated, and if everything they're saying is, you know, valid, I kind of agree with you.
We need our legislature and our Senate and everything to step up and do something about it.
But yeah, it was very good.
There was also another video he posted with, I think it was Dr. Frank Douglas, that I went into some of the specifics of who he is, how they found out... This is also from the symposium?
It's on the frankspeech.com website.
Douglas, all right.
I'm going to look for it.
Thank you.
Yeah, look, the biggest thing was in that first video, the fact that these machines, it was a lie.
The testimony was a lie.
They were connected to the Internet.
And the idea that these machines are connected to the Internet, you know, that's all the evidence you need.
Thank you, Steve.
We will continue to support Mike in his efforts because we can't let them do what they did in November of last year.
Let's go to Alex in Brooklyn, line two.
Hi Sebastian, thanks for taking my call.
So I'm very happy that Governor Cuomo resigned, but I'm also disturbed that he resigned because of accusations made against an assaulting woman and not the nursing home scandal.
But it was interesting that during his resignation speech yesterday, he proved that the accusations of assaulting women are true.
Because he admitted that he touched these women, etc.
And then he said that he did not mean what they thought he intended to do when he touched them.
But he also said that he didn't know how far back the line has been redrawn.
And the issue with that... You mean culturally?
Yes, but the issue is that he's the one that passed legislation that made it a lot stricter and he has put back the lines so far back that he absolutely knew that what he was doing was wrong.
Alex, are you calling in a national radio show to say that Randy Andy Cuomo is a liar?
Well, he proved, um, he's calling in to say that he proved it during his speech.
I think he did, but I don't think that's news.
We know the guy's as crooked as a $3 note.
Thank you, Alex in Brooklyn.
Of course he did it.
Of course he knows what the line is.
And he's just a disgusting old man.
Thank you, my friend.
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Okay, so we've done... We've got to save nine for Jen.
We did five.
We haven't done four.
We haven't done, uh...
Who is that?
Any other cuts you wanna...
Have you tried this segment?
Um, yes.
I do.
Thank you.
Alright.
Come in with 7.
I figured it was gonna be that one.
Alright, I got a disclaimer I gotta play.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
One minute.
Huh.
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One job I'd probably pass on.
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I'm sure you wear a jockstrap.
On a board?
But that's not enough.
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I mean, look at the guy.
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The guys on Jackass did it pretty well.
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We've had trouble in the past.
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In terms of his personal behavior or what he's done as a governor?
What he's done as a governor.
I thought he's done a hell of a job.
I thought he's done a hell of a job.
And, uh, I mean both on everything from access to voting to infrastructure to a whole range of things.
That's why it's so sad.
Access to other things as well.
He's done a great job.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
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Creep out.
That was the subtitle of the New York Post today.
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Leonardo first and then Victor.
Leo, welcome.
Welcome, happy warrior King Gorka, the truth teller.
Happy warrior King Gorka.
That's good.
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The truth teller.
And thank you for the truth from Dr. Dan Stockwell.
Wasn't he great?
It's incredible.
I sent you a couple of voicemails, I don't know if you got to them, about that whole thing about the animal reservoir, right?
This virus is never going to go away because it's going to be in the cats and everybody's dogs.
But he talked about, I checked on polio, very similar to what he said about smallpox, that there are no animal reservoirs.
Correct.
Yeah, that's why those worked.
Anyway, I just wanted to be the first to say, and I'm echoing Ron DeSantis' words from the other day, Beware of the biomedical security complex because they're trying to enslave us to permanent leadership quest.
I heard that phrase.
I heard that phrase and I loved it.
Yes, indeed.
We've got to start using it.
Thank you, Leo.
Let's squeeze in one more regular, Victor, who I heard this morning on another radio show talking about me.
Welcome, Victor.
Thank you.
Yes, call in.
So, Chris' listeners can hear you.
I'm not allowed to!
He doesn't take guests, Victor!
Oh, that's too bad.
I know!
He's got enough to say for three hours.
I'm just an amateur.
I take guests and callers.
Okay, I've got a question for you.
Yes.
I was listening to one of these financial talk shows on a station late at night, and one of the items that's being discussed in this so-called $3 trillion boondoggle, Biden wants to put a new tax on people's 401ks and IRAs.
You know what, Victor?
Next it's gonna be the oxygen you breathe, my friend.
They're going to tax anything and everything.
Why?
Because they haven't seen something they don't like to tax.
And they haven't seen a government program they didn't want to create.
But thank you for suggesting that Chris should be on my show and I should be on his.
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Thank you kindly.
Welcome back.
Where did that hour go?
Craziness, craziness.
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Yes, yes, I'm certified in my own mind.
I think that can be said for most of this city.
Thank you kindly for that.
I love that phrase.
Certified in my own mind, we will use that.
In that case, I need your comments on a video, and there's a lot of stuff that's gone under the river politically in our civilization, but I haven't seen anything quite like this.
This is from the man who currently runs California, and it's special.
Cut nine.
It would be nice if our homegrown team started focusing on what's right.
Everybody outside this state is bitching about this state.
Gavin Newsom seemed a little angry on that call.
It's everybody outside California, Jen.
How did we not know that?
He is cracking.
Well, you have to listen to Elizabeth Warren.
This is where it all starts.
Okay.
Senator Elizabeth Warren has started doing advertising for the governor.
She is a spokesperson.
Focahontas is top front and center saying that this is a Republican recall.
Of course Gavin Newsom thinks it's not really California that can't stand his performance as governor.
No, it's the rest of the world.
It's the rest of the country.
It's all of you Trump supporters out there who are trying to take him down, which couldn't be further from the truth.
Hang on a second.
There are six million Trump voters in California.
Yes, there are.
And Focahontas is going to save Gavin Newsom?
I mean, is he on drugs?
Let me tell you, so the people that have come forward to stand up for Gavin Newsom, he's got Senator Elizabeth Warren doing his television commercials, which, by the way, are running everywhere because something weird about California, and I'll just warn you because people go, oh, it's California, no one cares, but California is a petri dish for what Joe Biden is rolling out across the country right now.
So one of the laws or rules in place is that the incumbent How is that possible?
When they are fundraising.
How is that possible?
How is it that the challengers have limits but the incumbent doesn't?
Isn't that crazy?
And you know it was obviously an incumbent who set it up.
I haven't investigated who it was.
But, I mean, pick your poison.
It was probably Jerry Brown or one of the other predecessors to Gavin Newsom who said, yeah, you can raise as much as you want.
Meanwhile, the other 46 people who are running, they have to abide by campaign finance laws.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
So he's got Senator Elizabeth Warren out there making tons of money from the unions in California, the teachers union specifically.
So his mug is all over TV.
And apparently his next spokesperson is supposed to be another one who's really favorable to California.
Kamala Harris, I guess, is back in good graces again with Gavin.
Just stop, just stop, just stop, just stop.
You've got 48 million people challenging you.
You're a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat.
Why do you get dyed-in-the-wool Democrat?
You're not going to convince anybody who's not already voting for you, Jennifer.
Wouldn't you go out to Hollywood and get any one of the movie stars who were probably tripping all over themselves to come out and endorse you?
You would do that, right?
But instead, you're going to go with the two most unlikable women in politics, except for Nancy Pelosi, who's your aunt.
She'll probably be out there too.
But you've got Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris out there.
I mean, you might as well roll out Hillary Clinton and just make it a trifecta.
But he's so he so misunderstands this recall effort and I say bring it on because the more he misunderstands it, the more Democrats misunderstand this effort.
The better it is for you, the better it is for me in California, the better it is for all of us across the country because if you look at the polling data, the This is not a Republican recall.
You've got Independents and Democrats who have been disappointed by Gavin Newsom.
You have all different demographic groups.
In fact, Hispanics in California are the most likely to recall Gavin Newsom.
Now most of those people are not... Hang on, hang on.
That's fascinating.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
This is huge.
Yes.
Talk to us about that because that's news anywhere in America.
Yeah, so this Emerson College poll that was released last week, it was, you know, obviously it talks about Gavin Newsom and he's losing his recall bid in this particular poll.
And it, you know, it lists all of your frontrunners, but what you really dig down into the data It goes into demographic groups and it says who is supporting this recall.
And the only group they divided into Hispanics, whites, blacks and Asians.
And the Hispanic group by a large number support the recall of Gavin Newsom.
It's because of President Trump and huge news because Hispanics for so long have been told that they're just supposed to vote for Democrats, right?
You're just supposed to come here and you vote for Democrats.
President Trump did extremely well with this group in 2020.
The Republican Party has been welcoming in more people because we're talking about common sense issues, or at least the ones of us that are going to win, right?
We're talking about law and order.
We're talking about the schools.
We're talking about the economy.
We're talking about quality of life.
issues instead of cancel culture.
Yeah.
And these are the kinds of things that matter to people who just want to send their kids to school, have a few extra dollars in the bank, want to be able to afford a house, and want to be able to think that they can sleep at night without having to call the police that aren't there because they've been defunded by the left.
And so Hispanics have been coming out in droves against Gavin Newsom, and it's showing up Whites are evenly split.
Blacks are less likely.
They support keeping Gavin Newsom.
And then Asians are the most favorable group that Gavin Newsom has.
So what's happened, and it's great news for For Spanish-speaking media in California is that every candidate that is running, and there are 46 of them, is now spending all of their money on conservative, excuse me, on Spanish-speaking media because they think this is where the, this is, those are the people that will ultimately recall Gavin Newsom on September 14th.
I'm sorry, that is national news.
That's huge.
That dynamic is massive, Jennifer.
Is this understood?
Is it being reported?
Oh, it absolutely is being reported.
Now, whether or not the mainstream media picks up on it, I don't know.
But Gavin Newsom, after that polling came out, has been really worried.
He's been mentioning his competitors a lot.
He's been cracking under pressure.
We're seeing a Gavin Newsom that's now angry and fighting back.
You just heard that audio.
I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.
Well, you know, I wish I would have seen more like that.
It shows that he's a human being.
What we've seen in California is the robot Gavin Newsom.
He's the political robot with the good hair and he goes around the state and he talks like Batman and he puts out mandates and he, you know, he just shuts everything down and he's like a robot, a robot of the left.
At least I see some emotion in him.
One thing that he said in that video is that whether I'm governor in a, you know, in a, in a month or I know that line was so telling.
But it was so great.
I mean, it was great because he said, I love California and I live here.
That's the first time I've ever heard him try to connect with the state.
Maybe if he had been doing this all along, he wouldn't be recalled, but he didn't.
And so now he's showing emotion, but I think it's going to be a little too late.
I think he's seeing it because the votes that they were counting on, you know, maybe they're not there in droves like they thought.
And this can't be underscored enough.
A lot of people who are running against him are spending a lot of money on media, and that's great.
I think radio and TV advertising really works.
But if you have limited funds, the money has to be on the ground game.
Because where this election is still very much... This is the question I wanted to ask.
What is mobilization looking like for him, for Democrats?
Well, and this is the thing.
He has a lot of money, so he can hire people to go out and ballot harvest, which is very legal in California.
And he's also got the union supporting him, and that's a huge resource.
They can send people out door to door, help people, I use air quotes, fill out their ballots.
Take their ballots and turn them in.
So what every candidate has to do, and this is why it's important that there are 46 of them because it almost becomes like a pack in its own right, is that they all need to gather their resources and their momentum.
And we need to make sure that those people are going out there and knocking on doors, not just spending money on advertising, that they're putting money into the ground game.
Because I believe that's where this election will be won or lost.
It always is.
It absolutely is.
And this is why candidates like Kevin Kiley are really important to this race.
Kevin Kiley is an assemblyman in California, and he's polling around 5%.
He's really good.
He was challenging Gavin Newsom in the court system for the entire last year and a half of the pandemic.
But he brings with him a young group of volunteers, and those volunteers, 20-30,000 of them, are going to be out walking for Kevin Kiley.
That benefits all the other candidates in the race.
So are we going to see more angry videos, potentially?
Oh, I think, you know, I tell you about my mom all the time, and she loves you.
And she is a liberal and probably doesn't agree with anything we say politically.
But she got an email from Gavin Newsom.
Now she's going to vote to recall him, if you can imagine that.
She is.
Yeah, she's going to vote to recall him, which is why it's not just a Republican effort anymore.
I'm outing her.
She said she's going to she's going to go with the yes vote.
But in the letter that Gavin Newsom is sending out, he's focused on his competitors.
He is not focused on saying, this is what I've done.
He is name-checking people all over the place.
If you're focused on your challenges, it means two things.
You're scared.
You're losing.
You're scared.
And more importantly, and this is the really delicious thing, you have no idea how to win.
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She is going to, I believe she is going to vote for Larry because she knows him, which is whatever.
I'll take the yes vote.
However, I can get it But um, but I will She's not in love with them.
She thinks that he's failed.
You know, she hasn't done Anything he can't talk about his accomplishments because he doesn't have any So I think if there were something really strong she would continue to support him.
But at this point she figures it's a year Let's see what somebody else can do Good.
It would be really fascinating to see if there's a repeat of that phenomenon like in the last recall election where LA County and a handful of other counties that voted against the recall still voted for a Schwarzenegger.
I know.
Like we see something like that happens again this year.
Okay.
I think it's gonna be really interesting all the way around.
And Caitlyn Jenner's back.
Now she's going to the border on Friday.
Oh my god.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Back from reality TV.
Back to the border.
Clown show.
It's really funny because I realized that Caitlyn's not getting much attention in California, but she gets a lot of attention from Fox News.
I know!
Why?
Weird.
Creepy.
They're like into her.
Tommy Lahren.
All of them are really into Caitlyn Jenner.
Creepy.
Creepy.
Right?
Classic Tommy Lahren move.
Explain that, explain that.
Oh, she's just, you know, she's pro-choice.
Also, I think just kind of chasing the celebrity cloth that comes with it, like naturally we'll go to the most celebrity candidate in the race.
But I was talking to a friend of mine who's also an outsider, you know, looking from the outside, looking in at California, just said, oh, so it seems to me that election is just like, it's a two-way race between Jenner and Elder.
And I'm like, no, trust me, there's a lot more dynamics going on in the Republican field than just And you know who came out of nowhere is this Meet Kevin guy, that YouTube guy who's running as a Democrat.
He says he's moderate.
I don't think that exists anymore.
He's young.
He's 29 years old.
Super young.
And he's 27% of the vote in that Emerson College poll.
What?
He's beating Elder, yeah.
The poll that had 51% supporting the recall, yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's – well, that was from SurveyUSA.
What is SurveyUSA?
Sorry, not Emerson.
Yeah, SurveyUSA.
SurveyUSA is the same pollster that did a poll of the Senate race in 2018 where they listed only one Republican on the ballot.
So he came in first.
And it was that literal.
That was James Bradley.
No, no.
What is SurveyUSA?
I've never heard of it before, before last week.
It's been around.
They do stuff.
Yeah.
They do stuff.
Polls.
They do stuff.
Stuff.
Things.
Things.
But that's the trick is they list a single Democrat in a whole field of Republicans.
Right.
And that's what they did.
I've got to talk about some non-California stuff, but then we can go back.
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It is hilarious.
The most disgusting, sexually perverse Texts, DMs from people who just couldn't take my tweet.
I mean, I thought the LGBT community was supposed to be so nice and cuddly and all about love!
Accepting, right?
Accepting everyone's and their personal opinions and their views.
Yeah, except if you get it wrong.
That's right.
If you offend someone, then you're out.
But I mean, really, like, sicko stuff.
Sicko stuff.
What is it?
I can imagine.
But who didn't see this coming?
I mean, look at Robin.
I mean, please, with the cape.
I mean, come on.
I know.
The underpants outside, the tights, and the little shoes with the little wings on them.
I mean, it was super obvious.
I can't believe it took us this long.
But still, they just take everything that has a base that's been there for 50, 60 years with loyal, loyal subscribers and viewers and readers, and they just urinate on all of it.
But it's true.
I mean, think about how... I mean, I always just think of what goes on on Facebook.
I mean, YouTube just knocking off Rand Paul.
I mean, do something creative.
Knocking off Marjorie Taylor Greene again.
I mean, give me a little surprise.
Like, zhuzh it up.
Like, knock off a liberal every once in a while just to keep things interesting.
But this is, I mean, this is what the left is.
This is who they are, right?
It's freedom of speech until it's not.
And if you have the wrong opinion, then you no longer, then you have to be canceled and shut up.
This is, I don't know, I've been really sad for our country, and you know me, I'm always an optimist.
You are!
And I feel like we still, because I know the people that I talk to, and I know the people that listen to this program, and I know the people that listen to my program, and there are so many people who are willing to fight.
But boy, it is, it's hard.
People are pushing so far to socialism, to giving up their rights.
I mean, not that we're moving from like, I'm not trying to skew the conversation from Robin, but like, I just look at what's going on in California with mask mandates and with vaccine mandates.
Give us the latest update from the gruesome news.
And just the fact that people are willing to give up their personal freedoms, their free speech, what they're putting on their face, what they're allowing the government to want in their body.
I mean, it's just, it's a little bit depressing because we have to fight back, right?
We have to be able to say, if I want to say something about Robin, I get to.
If you want to say something about Robin, good for you.
But we all get to celebrate our free thought and our free speech in California.
I have chosen not to get vaccinated because I had COVID and no one's addressing people with natural immunity.
OK, you have to.
You missed it.
You've got to listen for two segments.
Peter McCullough, Dr. McCullough.
You're a doctor, right?
No, no, no.
We had him for an hour last week, Dr. Pappas.
This is Peter McCullough, who's been on my Newsmax show.
He addressed exactly this issue.
We are putting it up on Rumble.
You've got everybody tuning in right now.
He addressed exactly this.
You've got to listen to it.
Rumble.com slash Seb Gorka.
That's Rumble.com slash S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A.
But let's go back to perversions, if we may.
Yeah.
To all these people sending me these nasty... And some of them are really sexually lewd.
I mean, it's not nice stuff.
Let's give you another update on who... Use the phrase, who the Democrats are.
This is just...
This is from The Blaze, Carlos Garcia.
A Democrat Arizona State Senator resigned Tuesday after he was arrested and charged for molesting an underage victim and attempting to molest his brother.
According to the police, Senator Otoniel Tony Navarrete of Phoenix was recorded talking to one of the victims about what he did to the boy without knowing the police were listening in on the call.
On Thursday, the 35-year-old was arrested and charged with sexual conduct with a minor.
The charging documents allege numerous inappropriate sexual conduct activities with a 16-year-old and his 13-year-old brother.
Unbelievable.
This is, again... Will this be a story in the mainstream media, Jennifer?
No, they'll never pick it up.
And in fact, I think really the only reason why we're talking about Andrew Cuomo this week and all of the women that have come out against him is because the left wants to bury his nursing home scandal.
So they don't want to talk about that.
So they'll talk about the women and he'll do the same thing.
He'll laugh and say, well, I'm Italian and I'm too old to know any better.
I'm Hansi.
Yeah, I'm Hansi.
This is, you know, this is just my greeting is to rub someone's stomach.
Okay.
I mean, I've never done that.
Like, your stomach.
I get the shoulder look.
I'm a touchy person, too.
I like to give up.
I've never rubbed somebody's stomach.
I've rubbed my dog's stomach.
Right, but you never walk up to a person and say, hey, thanks for holding the door.
Wonka, wonka, wonka.
And pat them on the stomach.
Nobody does that.
Hang on, hang on.
I need that line.
Would you do that?
Would you say wonka, wonka, wonka?
Wonka, wonka, wonka.
I like that.
I like that.
We need that.
Nobody does that.
I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous.
And he was the one, and this is the part that gets back to all the criticism you got on social media for making a comment about Robin.
I mean, when Andrew Cuomo comes out, right, he says, well, I don't know any better.
It's generational.
I guarantee you he could get reelected in New York again if he wanted to.
Okay, so this is the issue.
This is the thing that drives me nuts.
But he created the Me Too movement.
He's the one that actually created the laws of sexual harassment training.
You knew?
You knew this wasn't right.
We're having this debate here with the team here at American First.
Does this guy come back in two years as a politician?
Look, I think anything is possible, right?
I mean, Andrew Cuomo, first of all, he... I can't believe I'm going to say this.
I apologize in advance, President Trump.
But he kind of shares one thing in common with the president.
And maybe it's a New York thing, but he doesn't have a lot of shame.
I always say President Trump was born without a shame bone.
And I love that about him because all the other Republicans have no spine, so they've got no backbone.
And President Trump actually did have that.
And he stood up and he didn't take the criticism that he got, which I loved about him.
But Andrew Cuomo still has that.
Like, you can say awful things about Andrew Cuomo and I don't think he's going away.
I actually think the reason he resigned is so that he could come back.
The reports were behind the scenes that he was trying to make a deal with the Assembly so that he wouldn't get impeached.
And I think he came out and he didn't really apologize for anything.
I mean, he said he's sorry he offended people, but he didn't really say he was sorry for the wonka wonka wonka.
He didn't say that.
You know, he made an excuse for that.
It's generational and I'm Italian.
So, I think he's very willing to come back if he can.
He's going to see what happens.
And people forget we have short-term memory loss in this country.
We do indeed.
But I will never forget.
The Wonka, Wonka, Wonka.
And I will never think the same about that Wonka chocolate bar that I've dreamt of since I was eight years old and I saw it on a certain movie.
Yeah.
Wonka, Wonka, Wonka.
I just want you to walk through a door.
And next time somebody holds a door for you, just, you know, grab them on the stomach and say Wonka, Wonka, Wonka.
I think we should set that up.
I think we should set that up.
Somewhere in California, we should go somewhere public where nobody knows who you and I are, and I'll walk in, I'll say, I'll treat, oh, hi, who are you?
What's your name?
And then I'll rub your tummy.
What do you think?
I love it.
I love it.
Let's do it.
Make sure the cameras are there.
Let's set it up.
We're going to do a, I used to love, when I was a kid, I used to love Candy Camera.
I mean, Candy Camera, where is that?
Wonka.
We're gonna do the Wonka Wonka Wonka episode.
In the meantime, what is that word Wonka?
So fun.
Wonka Wonka Wonka.
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Follow her at Jennifer Horne.
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We have so much more.
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Food for the poor.
Yes.
I know, I forgot.
It's okay, we've got plenty of time.
Wonka, wonka, wonka.
Wonka, wonka, wonka.
But you've got to be making the tummy rubbing motion.
You've got to be going, wonka, wonka, wonka.
Believe me, that's what I did while I was talking to you.
If only with the camera on, I was going wonka, wonka, wonka.
Oh, dude.
Alright, so I will chat with you guys tomorrow.
Yes, indeedy.
11 o'clock my time, right?
Yes, indeedy.
Yep, I already talked.
I was on the phone with Kevin while you guys were on air getting everything set up, so we're all organized.
You're such an overachiever, Chad.
I love that about you.
That's why we call him the professor!
You are the professor.
Good.
So Kevin's all set, and it'll be good.
Happy Wonka to you.
Wonka, Wonka, Wonka Wednesday.
Wonka Wednesday.
Bye, guys.
Bye.
Okay, what do we got?
Title four, that's a one.
Okay, uh, do we want to do food here, or American Financing, or just want to shift everything down one?
Another Democrat pervert.
Yep.
What?
I wanted to shift all of it down one.
No.
Oh.
No, I'll come in with food.
You're gonna do food here, and then do you do American Financing?
Oh no, hang on, hang on.
That's what I mean.
Do food here, and then Financing D, and then Pillow E.
I'll do financing.
No.
He's gonna do financing.
Oh, I knew there was something I needed to add to my list.
Yes?
Rudy?
Food for the poor.
You just showed me food for the poor.
What else I have to take with me?
Oh!
My stack!
Your stack!
My stack!
The stuff!
I remember you did forget that once and that was the whole deal.
No, not good.
That was the whole deal.
Well, you have a printer at this location.
I do not, but I'm going to buy one when I get there.
Oh, so here's the thing I'm going to need from you.
From me.
Eric.
Yes.
So I'm going to, because I'll have limited access, what I'm going to do is I'm going to need you, I'll pick like five articles or six in the morning that I need you to format for me.
Format, like Microsoft Word.
And send them back as one Word doc.
Yep.
As usual.
Actually, because I'll be on my Mac, send it back as a one document with the page breaks in the right place.
Yeah.
So each article is on a new page, but as a PDF.
As a PDF!
You know how to do that, right?
Yeah, just convert a Word doc to a PDF, right?
Like that can be done on a Mac.
Yes, save as.
Yeah.
PDF.
That's correct.
Technology!
Technology.
McCullough was really good today.
Yeah.
What time did you leave that studio from?
I told them... What did I say to them?
One minute.
One?
Okay, good.
They only have a morning show.
That's the only thing they have is a morning show.
Okay.
Cool.
What's happened to Twitter?
They changed the font.
Did they?
And the colors, the bastards.
Yeah, it's really weird.
Did we give them permission?
I don't think so.
You should threaten some sort of action.
Yes, indeed.
It's why you gotta use dark mode.
I do.
I love dark mode.
Yes, but the tabs are white.
Yeah.
The tabs are white!
It's weird.
It's wrong.
All right.
Standby.
30 seconds.
Standing by.
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It's incredible.
It's the story of one teacher who's had enough.
She cries.
Her voice breaks.
But she reads the riot act to the Loudoun County School Board last night at quite, quite a meeting.
Her name is Laura Morris.
And this is what you have to hear.
And this is what we all have to do.
Cut 4.
My name is Laura Morris.
I have been a teacher in Loudoun County Public Schools for 5 years, and a teacher for 10.
In that time, I have learned so much, being on the cutting edge of educational technology and working with a diverse population of students that I have loved.
This year, I have the privilege to follow my amazing 4th graders up to 5th, and I have been excited about this all summer.
On the other hand, this summer I have struggled with the idea of returning to school, knowing that I'll be working yet again with a school division that, despite its shiny tech and flashy salary, promotes political ideologies that do not square with who I am as a believer in Christ.
After reading about your lack of consideration for the growing population of concerned citizens in this division, clearly evidenced by this empty room tonight where you shut the doors to the public, as well as the emails sent by the superintendent last year reminding me that a dissenting opinion is not allowed, even to be spoken in my personal life,
Going so far as to send a form to my colleagues and I, encouraging us to fill it out if we hear one another speaking against the controversial policies being promoted by this school board and adopted in this county.
Not only that, but within the last year, I was told in one of my so-called equity trainings that white, Christian, able-bodied females currently have the power in our schools and that, quote, this has to change.
Clearly, you've made your point.
You no longer value me or many other teachers you've employed in this county.
So since my contract outlines the power that you have over my employment in Loudoun County Public Schools, I thought it necessary to resign in front of you.
School board, I quit.
I quit your policies.
I quit your trainings.
And I quit being a cog in a machine that tells me to push highly politicized agendas on our most vulnerable constituents, the children.
I will find employment elsewhere.
I encourage all parents and staff in this county to flood the private schools.
God bless her.
That was a public meeting that wasn't a public meeting.
Because the public wasn't allowed in.
And that teacher, for all of you out there, for people you know who've said this to you, oh, I couldn't say that publicly.
I couldn't post that on Facebook or Twitter.
Look at the example of this woman.
She doesn't sound like a warrior.
She doesn't sound like somebody who's had her metal tested in the fires of politics and attacks for years.
But she did it.
She said, I don't care.
I'll lose my job.
I'll resign instead of being a slave to your racist ideology and your attempt to indoctrinate the most vulnerable in our society.
Laura Morris is the definition of a hero.
Laura Morris is America and Laura Morris is what we need more of.
Be inspired by this woman.
Be inspired by all of the people, the handful of Americans who are stepping up and saying, no, this doesn't happen on my watch.
I will not let you do this to me, to my family, or to our American children.
It's really that simple.
And it's just a decision.
Courage is a choice.
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I'll go ahead and dial up Boris.
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Food.
He's gonna do food.
And I'm gonna use... Boris, can you hear us?
Boris can hear you!
Oh my gosh, he's somewhere else again!
I'm always somewhere.
He's running from creditors.
He's never in the same place two days in a row.
There's one thing you can count on, and it's that I am never running from creditors.
Creditors run from me.
From you.
Sorry, what were you saying, Seb?
You wanted to use... I want to use the cut.
I'll tee it up.
Cut two from yesterday.
Two from yesterday.
Oh, yeah.
So your parents like the interview?
They... My dad... So whenever I usually send my dad a clip, which I send of everything I ever do, He sent me back like a very sweet text the next morning, you did so great, I'm so proud of you.
Here, I was with him and he said, I didn't text you because it was so amazing, I could not put into words how great it was.
He said the host was so superb, right?
He said the host, his cadence, his tie, the accent, and his overall demeanor was so perfect.
There was no words.
They loved it.
Good.
It was so much fun.
So much fun.
And I learned so much about the Baron!
You know, I'm a man of many sides.
But no longer a closed book.
The Book of the Baron is now open.
It's like, you know, it is like Rosh Hashanah.
We opened the Book of Life.
Opened the Book of Life, exactly.
You said you'll tee up that cut?
Yeah, I'll tee it up.
Copy.
Alright, we gotta talk Randy Andy.
Okay.
Were you covering any of the Lindell stuff with Steve?
Not really.
No?
Because he was down there, but you weren't phoning in?
I did Monday.
They're doing like a... I'm taking a wait-and-see approach.
The first six minutes was great.
I saw the first six minute video.
That was pretty good.
Pretty good.
Yeah, well, you know, I will see what happens.
But no, I have not.
I have not.
OK, so what else do we need?
So what else?
Oh, we've got to talk infrastructure and then the reconciliation.
Infrastructure, reconciliation, Andy Cuomo, how that impacts New York, because, you know, you know, does that does this mean sort of that, you know, not for the same reason, but, you know, are the Democrats going to dump Gavin Newsom, too?
Right.
He's the other poster.
In how quickly it went from being a golden child to being an awful child.
Fifteen seconds.
Oh, good.
Thank you.
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right?
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He's the Baron!
He is our sometime guest host.
He is, of course, our regular friend here on America First.
And I have waited 24 hours to play this for you, Baron, because I know this is such an important clip for you.
Cut to.
Play clip.
Play clip.
So where to begin?
Is it the Arabic Ululation?
Is it the Palestine Palestine Chorus?
Or is it the This Is Our Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib?
Oh!
Or is it the lack of any masks?
Boris, your reaction to that fresh video?
Well, my good friend... He's wordless!
He's speechless for the first time ever!
He's speechless!
I'm not speechless.
A lot of words come to mind, but I'm... Behave!
I'm doing my best to behave, because I know we're on the radio, and I'm trying to stick to our old-school rules.
Listen, first of all, the complete disgusting hypocrisy, obviously, exhibited there, exhibited by Barack Obama's birthday party, jumps out.
You know, in terms of the cultural effect of it, well, every culture in America, that's the beauty of America, they get to celebrate as they want, I would just wish that they would let The Jews celebrate as we want and not come after our tiny sliver of a homeland of Israel as much as they can non-stop.
And the chorus of Palestine, Palestine is not one for my taste.
And this does continue a very interesting trend of Rashida Tlaib being referred to as the Congresswoman from Palestine.
Yes, so strange.
Which is very strange for several reasons, obviously, from geopolitical to constitutional to political.
But this again shows, let's just be honest, okay?
Rashida Tlaib is an anti-Semite, she's anti-Israeli, and it does not seem to me like standing up for her constituents in Michigan and the American people as a whole is very high on Rashida Tlaib's priority list.
Yeah, yeah, clearly, clearly, very... Otherwise, listen, she wants to dance around, go enjoy herself... Yeah, but surely, I know, I know, but that's not the issue.
It's not the cultural thing, it's the political thing, it's the anti-Semitism.
So much to discuss, very little time.
Boris... By the way, real quick, ten more seconds.
Rashida Tlaib never, she never fails to use an anti-Semitic trope, never fails to attack Israel, never fails to attack Jews, and never stands up for us.
And you know what?
I'll stand up for her right to dance and enjoy Arabic culture as much as she wants.
That's the beauty of America.
Just do the same for us, just once, in your hypocrisy-ridden political life, for Shia Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, and others.
All right, let's talk about the big, big news.
How significant is the fact of the Brandy Andes resignation?
What does that mean for the Democrats?
You're our expert.
What does it mean for the state of New York, Boris?
Very.
It was almost unexpected.
You know, I was on your show, Steve Bannon's show, other shows last week saying that I think that Coleman was going to try to stick it out.
Well, once his top eight, De La Rosa, others left, it became obvious he wasn't going to able to pull through.
And this is what you have.
It is extremely obviously embarrassing, not just for Andrew Coleman, but for his brother.
Chris Fredo Bromo Cuomo, who has been absolutely ravaged by mainstream media.
You know, you've got Washington Post, Eric Rumpel saying that CNN should investigate Cuomo.
You had Colbert, Steve Colbert, absolutely destroy Tater Stelter on his show, I think yesterday.
Yes.
And make fun of him for trying to draw some sort of line and say that, oh, it's OK what Cuomo did, what Chris Cuomo did.
This is major for Democrat policy because this says that their big players are not above reproach.
The question is, and somebody did post this very interestingly, did Andrew Cuomo just get forced to resign for something that Joe Biden has done?
I was doing it last week with little girls.
That hair sniffing thing is very creepy.
All right, we've got a minute left with you.
Gotta ask you, conflicting stories coming out of DC.
The Senate has signed the $1.2 trillion, then the reconciliation for another $3.4 trillion.
Some people are saying that the Democrats are going to scalper it, the radicals.
Is it going to go through?
What's the baron's gut sense right now?
Well, in the House, they're going to have a big fight over this.
I think the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill, then it's going to go back to the Senate.
So that mess continues.
But now it is obvious that this whole thing has just been a game to push through the $3.5 trillion of far-left extremist policy agenda and look for that coming down the way.
I think Mitch McConnell and the other Republicans in the Senate who voted for the infrastructure bill, giving Schumer that win, giving Biden that win, made a mistake.
It's important to stay strong.
You know, Governor Gritens, who I'm helping in the race in Missouri, put out a fire statement yesterday stating that no Republican, I know you retweeted it, no Republican Senator or House member should even consider voting for the sham of a partisan, swampy boondoggle.
Yeah, I've retweeted it.
He was on fire.
So happy you're helping Governor Gritens there.
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All right.
Nice.
That was tight, but it worked tight.
Good stuff.
No, I'm done.
I'm done.
I've got to wrap.
I've got to wrap the hour.
I've got three minutes left.
I'm good.
Fine.
Perfect.
Thanks so much.
See you buddy.
I'll see you on Friday.
I'm on with you for Newsmax.
Yes.
Correct.
Friday morning.
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
We're going to have fun.
Okay.
Good.
Good.
All right.
Thank you very much.
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Why is it always the Daily Mail?
Texas Republican, this is Alistair Talbot of the Daily Mail, Republican House Speaker in Texas, Dade Felon, Felon, that's a, yeah, with a PH, sorry, Irish I guess, has issued arrest warrants For 52 Democrat lawmakers who broke quorum for the third time over voting rights.
The decision was approved after the Texas House voted 80 to 12 to move forward with the arrests for absent members.
Fabulous, fabulous.
Gotta give it to the Lone Star State.
Not to Illinois.
Not to Chicago.
I was sent this video yesterday, this audio.
This is the dispatcher call.
Detailing the last few minutes of Ella French's life.
The officer killed in Chicago.
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736, repeat, I'm sorry?
That's the unconscious officer, correct?
10-4, squad.
Okay, is someone in the back with her?
Is someone in the backseat with her?
10-4, squad, not my first.
Okay, listen to me.
Take that damn vest off right now and start compressions.
Start breathing.
Whatever we gotta do, start it now.
While you're driving, the officer in the back with her, take the vest off and start compressions now.
You got the air?
736, the compressions started almost 50 minutes ago.
Okay, excellent.
Keep it rolling, baby.
Keep it rolling.
We got it coming.
They know you're coming in.
And units that are at UFC Hospital, have those doors open for me.
Have them open, guys.
Have them ready.
Units in the crime scene.
See what's up.
Careful condition 1GSW to the head, it looks like.
Go ahead, boy.
644, we got the male officer.
He's here, they got him in the ER right now.
Side door to the emergency room is open.
Bring him through the emergency room side.
Alright, bring him through the emergency room side, guys.
Guys, the male officer's going to the ER.
Bring him through the emergency room.
And the other female officer, please get her in there, guys.
Make it quick.
Be safe getting there, but make it quick.
7-3-6, my officer here is down in the head between the eyebrows.
5-3, repeat that last transition.
Shot in the head between the eyes.
Both officers unresponsive in the hospital.
You'll see.
Keep the air clear.
8-6-1-4, why'd you get thrown up?
10-4, 10-4.
Unit, secure the crime scene if you're at the crime scene.
Secure the crime scene.
Don't touch anything at the crime scene.
Both officers shot.
Officer Ella French shot between the eyes.
And now her child is an orphan.
It's a war on our police.
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It is America First one-on-one, our opportunity to delve a little bit deeper on the key issues, the big issues, things you don't get to do when you're watching a little segment on a TV show, and also to get to know some of our very special guests much, much better.
Today, it is a delight, it is a pleasure.
Last time I saw him, we were at a very fancy soiree at the residence of the American ambassador to the Holy See, which was then Callista Gingrich, and he was there with his lovely wife.
He's with us right now, one-on-one, Professor Thomas Williams.
Welcome to America First.
Thank you very much, Dr. Gorka, Dr. G. It's always a pleasure to discuss.
Thank you kindly.
I'm going to jump straight in with a very simple question.
Is Western civilization dead or dying, Professor Williams?
Well, I think that's the plan of certain sectors of our society.
And judging from, for example, higher education, you'd say yes, because they're intentionally excluding it from curricula.
They're moving east.
They're moving away from anything that they see as too Eurocentric.
So there's definitely a plan afoot to eliminate that.
And also talking with today's young people from millennials on down, there's very little knowledge of Western civilization the way it was much more common a generation ago.
That being said, Western civilization will not die because we're not going to let it die.
And there are enough of us culture warriors out there who believe in the value of Western civilization.
And it's Christian roots, it's Greco-Roman roots to be willing to get out there and continue to make that message known.
Well, I love that answer.
I love that answer.
When you say there are enough of us warriors for the Judeo-Christian civilization, some would say it's a very small number.
What gives you that certitude or that quantification that it's enough to get the job done?
Or is it simply the fact, if you look at the theology of it all, we've already won?
Well, that's a great answer, too.
I think both of those are true.
The theology of it is very clear that we've already won, even though Jesus himself said, you know, when the Son of Man returns, will he find any faith on the earth?
Question mark.
So there is that open-ended question of which way will society, which way will civilization eventually go, and it's not guaranteed that it will go in the right way.
The ultimate victory theologically is won, but the fight for the soul of America and the soul of Western civilization, the soul of the world, is still being fought.
That being said, I'm encouraged by the fact that there are so many young people, there are so many committed conservatives, very intelligent, very steeped in their history, steeped in their faith, who are really proclaiming the message of truth.
It's a philosophical truth, it's a theological truth, It's a historical truth, and enough people, if you have contact with that, they just lap it up.
So you have a unique position.
You are Professor of Philosophy, St.
John's University in the Rome campus in the Eternal City.
You are the Rome Bureau Chief for the most influential conservative website on the planet, Breitbart.com.
Can you talk to us, we'll talk about what's happening here.
In America, the culture war, the challenges, the attempts to dismantle everything that is good and is sacred.
Will you give us, for the time being, a little snapshot of what's happening in Europe?
I, for years, as somebody who was born in the UK, spent 24 years of my life either in the UK or in Central Europe in the land of my parents in Hungary after the fall of communism.
I've written off the continent for various reasons to do with Immigration, lack of child rearing and just the secular hedonistic society that has evolved in so many countries of the region, less so in the former communist countries like Poland where there's a church that has always been very strong.
Are you less optimistic about Europe?
Give us the comparative lens between the continent and what's happening here in America.
So I've lived in Rome, Italy since 1991, which is a long time at this point.
And I have never had any illusions about salvation, if you will, for Western civilization coming out of Europe.
Europe was already fairly socialist by the time I got there, and it's become only more so over time.
And they are not going to fight this battle for us.
Honestly, I always look with greatest hope Both to my home country of America and the American people, because we have such a great history and such a great love for truth and historically willing to take that out there and do battle.
And secondly, as you were just mentioning, in Central Europe, Hungary itself is amazing, the witness it's giving.
They're standing up to the European Union.
They're proclaiming the value of life, the value of the family, the value of a Christian-based society.
They're not ashamed to say so.
And then you have a country like Poland, you have Slovakia, you really have a core that is willing to again fight this good fight even against the European Union, the European Parliament, and they're hated for it but they don't care.
Yeah, they don't.
We're talking to Tom Williams, PhD, Professor Williams of St.
John University in Rome.
He is the Rome Bureau Chief of brightbar.com.
Please follow him at TDWilliamsRome on Twitter.
That's TDWilliamsRome on Twitter.
I'm working a little bit back Backwards here, I've started with a big, big question.
Now I'm going to ask what I usually ask our special guests first.
For those who aren't familiar with you or your work, who've just found us on the dial, just seen our Rumble channel, listening on their podcasts, tell our millions of listeners and viewers across the nation, across the globe, who is Thomas Williams?
How did you end up with a profession?
I had one semester as a fellow in Rome.
My, what a wonderful semester it was.
How did you end up in Rome since the 1990s and also your landing at Rybar?
Tell us a little bit about your life journey.
Well, I went to Rome as a Catholic seminarian for the priesthood in 1991.
That's how I ended up studying so much philosophy.
I'd already studied economics.
I went to the University of Michigan prior to coming to Rome and I did a five-year degree in economics.
But then, when I was in seminary, I did a program in philosophy up through a licensed degree and then Went on to theology and ended up getting a doctorate in moral theology.
And I've been teaching in that area on and off for 25 years.
And doing the news work has been much more recent.
In 2014, Steve Bannon approached me in Rome.
We had been friends previously, but he was looking to start a Rome bureau for Breitbart.
Really, he had this vision of centers in kind of the headquarters of the ancient world.
He wanted Rome.
He wanted Jerusalem.
He wanted, if it were possible, even Athens, which we haven't done, but with Rome and Jerusalem, yes.
And he said, would you be willing to take on this project?
And I was kind of transitioning careers at that point.
And I said, yes, I would love to.
That sounds like, you know, just a fantastic project.
And it's honestly been great.
It's been great for me.
I think it's been great for Breitbart.
It's been an opportunity to You know, get the word out and to do it from drawing from different parts of the world.
I have to ask you, this is going to be a subject for our discussion as we move forward, but let's hit on it right now.
In the midst of the cancel culture, there are not very many professors of philosophy or professors at all who are bureau chiefs of Breitbart.com.
Have you paid any price professionally or amongst the The beautiful people, the class of beautiful people in Rome or in the ivory towers for your affiliation with truly a website that statistically is the most influential conservative website in the world today.
Well, absolutely.
I mean, prior to working at Breitbart, I did some years working as a correspondent for NBC covering the Vatican for them, which is obviously on the opposite end of the cultural and political spectrum.
And I have many friends who were more left-leaning and they were, and we had a good relationship.
But as you know, with cancel culture, any sort of affiliation with something very conservative, like Breitbart is, can lose you a lot of friends.
And that has definitely been the case.
There are people that just kind of dropped off the radar, people who don't want to, to deal with me anymore.
I've had it, you know, affect me also in academically.
I won't say the name of the university.
I was teaching for a university in the US at their Rome campus.
And when they found out that I was simultaneously Breitbart's room bureau chief, I was unceremoniously dumped from there, despite the fact that my teacher evaluations were very positive and things were going very, very well.
I had a great rapport with the students and nobody ever complained.
It was just literally the affiliation, the association with Breitbart that ended up costing me that job.
But, you know, in this life, as you know better than I do, you have to be willing to take a few hits.
You have to stand on principle and just, you know, you know you're going to suffer for it, but that's the way it is.
That is true.
We've stood in the arena together and we understand the slings and arrows.
You have a book coming up.
We'll discuss it shortly.
It's The Coming Christian Persecution.
On that note, just very briefly, isn't cancel culture too weak a word when you're writing books about persecution?
Don't we have to find a better phrase for what we're fighting, Professor?
Well, the thing is that Christian persecution, which is growing in areas where there's great violence and hostility, like different parts of Africa, different parts of Asia, and even within Europe, in the West, in the United States, there's a whole new form of persecution that is growing day by day, where it becomes more and more uncomfortable, and sometimes downright dangerous, both career-wise, discrimination-wise,
The hostility, the ridicule that Christians suffer if they're willing to live up their Christianity, if they're willing to take it out there.
And we saw this, we've seen this over the last few years.
If you're a certain sort of Christian, it's not just being a Christian by name, it's being willing to take your faith seriously that's going to cost you.
If you're a Joe Biden that carries a rosary in your pocket but still are promoting abortion, they're going to love you and they're going to talk about your beautiful faith.
But if you're somebody like Amy Coney Barrett, who actually believes in God and believes in the principles of her faith, and is willing to take those moral questions and live them deeply in her own life and proclaim them, then you're going to suffer.
And the New York Times will hate you for it.
Absolutely true.
Professor, let me talk about our commonality, our mutual bond, not just politics and worldview.
I spent 13 years of my life at a Benedictine school.
I never chose the priesthood.
Only children don't get to do that if you're the only child.
You can do that if you've got like eight kids or eight boys.
One of them can be the priest.
And then I ended up studying with the Jesuits in college for my sins.
The old-school Jesuits, by the way, so calm down.
The good guys, not the modern ones.
And I studied philosophy and theology at London University.
And I have to admit, At the time, massively painful.
I could use rude words for the effect it had on my brain or just my mind.
Just from Descartes to Kierkegaard, who was my favourite by the way.
It wasn't an easy time.
It actually required a little bit of mental exertion.
But today, Thirty years later, I wouldn't have given it up for anything.
Let's talk about, it's what you teach, the importance of at least, at least a fundamental grounding in Western philosophy for all members of our civilization.
How important is that, Professor Williams?
Well, you know, you're preaching to the choir on this one.
I would make it obligatory.
And I would start As early as high school.
I think when high school students have to confront the big questions, and what philosophy gives you is not so much a life plan as the ability to ask yourself big questions, to realize what are the most important questions, and ways that you go about reasoning to the answers and thinking about them.
And especially studying the history of philosophy, it's very interesting, as you know, that That science and technology grow.
So, every year we know a little bit more, every year we can do a little bit more.
Philosophy doesn't grow that way.
If you read Aristotle today, it's like reading Aristotle 2,000 or 2,500 years ago.
What he says still has meaning, it still has value, because these are deeper questions about the meaning of existence, the meaning of human life, these bigger questions.
And so, there's a frustration in the fact that you don't get that kind of growth that is building on it like like technology does.
But on the other hand, there's something very, very exciting to be able to still wrestle with these intellectual giants from hundreds and thousands of years ago.
And that is why, as far as I'm concerned, that is why those who believe in progress are delusional.
They have no sense of history.
The essence of man, the things man struggles with haven't changed since we left the caves.
I mean truly, the search for meaning, the sense of quantifying worth, All of these things are the same they were two, three, four thousand years ago and that's why everybody, you're absolutely right professors, should be required to study, you know, the ancient Greeks and some of the key modern philosophers because it just helps man on his journey and that journey is a universal journey for all of us.
So let's Let's talk about where that journey is right now in terms of new ideas or reheated or repackaged ideas.
There is this Benedict Option book, this famous book, the writings of Dreher and others, that I particularly have an issue with.
Not with the diagnosis.
What is around us is rotten, fetid, diabolical, the culture of death, the deconstruction of all that is, if you look at art, if you look at science, it's just appalling.
And so we have some people who are believers, who are, I think, good men, say, okay, that's it.
We've got to leave it aside.
We've got to go off, create our communes in the forest, create new monastic orders to hide.
For me, God bless Saint Benedict and the rule of Saint Benedict is a manual every young man should read.
I don't think that's the answer.
I don't think the removal, Christians are not meant to remove themselves from the world.
This isn't the time for the Essenes or other kinds of models for people separating themselves.
What is your take on this trend of those who say, enough is enough, time to put the world behind us?
Yeah, I mean, we have a great history of monasticism.
We have the Desert Fathers, the earliest ones, who would separate themselves, but they were always a very small minority.
It's a very particular vocation.
It's not the universal call for Christians to go hide from the world.
You will always have contemplative orders.
You'll have monastic orders, people whose vocation it is to pray for humanity.
Right?
But that's always going to be a very small splinter of the Universal Church and the rest of us are called to get out there to roll up our sleeves and to fight.
And to fight to transform society with truth.
And to ask those questions and to proclaim those truths and to be willing also to go hand-to-hand in this combat for the soul of the world.
You can't just allow people to You know, suffer in their ignorance and suffer in the craziness of the day without showing them that there are alternatives, that there are much more sane, much more beautiful, much more cogent arguments to be made than the ones they're getting on CNN.
When you look at recent writers, what are the works, the authors that haven't received the requisite attention?
I think of Pope Benedict's writings.
Are there things that deserve greater recognition in the last 10 years?
Well, there's been a trend.
There's been some rediscovery of some of the greats of the 20th century.
So I think G.K.
Chesterton and C.S.
Lewis have seen a real revival, and those are great works, because they're philosophical in their own right.
They're not textbook philosophy.
They're not academic in tone, but they definitely ask those big questions, and they proclaim the Christian truths in a very winsome way that people can understand.
And there are those who follow in their footsteps, people like Peter Kraft out of Boston College, who has done that quite, quite well.
And there are others.
Pope Benedict, as you mentioned, is a great favorite of mine as well, just because of the depth of his thought and the clarity of his mind and his willingness to confront these big questions and to lay out, you know, a response.
And when he doesn't know the answer to something, instead of making something up, they'll say, well, this is troublesome because of this and this.
I think we would look for an answer in this direction, but it's not immediately clear.
It's just very pleasant and refreshing to engage someone of that stature.
And when it comes to appealing to the younger generation, what is your response to those who say, well, conservatism will flourish because of the libertarian movement.
I have no truck with it.
I think it is amoral.
What is the modern, sophisticated response to those who say, it's okay, the libertarians will save our civilization?
Well, again, the libertarians are what we don't want, what we won't do.
The libertarians don't really propose a positive project.
They just want government out of their hair.
And while I sympathize with, you know, the government has become so invasive, I think this is part of the reason libertarians are gaining in stature and gaining adherence because people are so upset with this very invasive government that is meddling in all these questions of our lives and trying to, you know, and now we've seen it in new ways with the With the health issues and saying, well, now we can tell you when you can leave your house, when you can go to work, when you can't, et cetera, which is just part of the ongoing invasiveness.
So I understand the appeal, but I also understand that this is never going to be sufficient for people who are looking for bigger meaning in their lives and a project that can actually engage them in something to build.
Because the libertarians don't really have anything they want to build.
They have, they have something they want to destroy.
And I, and I, as I say, I can sympathize with that part.
But you also need a project and a blueprint of a society that will engage people, that will allow people to build, and to use also the Judeo-Christian principles to do that.
Criticism is easy.
Criticism is easy.
Building stuff is a little bit harder.
Professor Thomas, you've got to follow this man.
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Williams.
Put the chyron back up, Eric, so I can read it.
He's professor of philosophy at St.
John's University, and also you can follow him on Twitter, T.D.
Williams Roma.
You have a book coming out soon called The Coming Christian Persecution.
We'll discuss that in a moment, but let's look at the role of the church here in the United States.
As the host of a national radio show, now with a weekly TV show on Newsmax as well, I've come to one conclusion I'd like to see if you share it or if you just comment on it.
After the last 18 months of shutdown, 44 million people unemployed, half a million dead and people just acquiescing to the Really not science baits, diktats of a flip-flopping bureaucracy.
I think the biggest problem we have in not just America but our civilization is a lack of courage.
We lack the one virtue that makes all the others possible.
Where is the Christian faith, not just the Roman Catholic faith, where are the Christian church leaders who said, no, we're having services on Sunday because that's more important than anything.
Are you not dismayed By the weakness that has been demonstrated in the last year and a half under COVID?
Yeah, I think disappointed, dismayed is an understatement.
This has been of tragic proportions.
It's something that has actually had me depressed at seeing the lack of Christian response.
This was a chance to stand up proudly with the history of people who knew how to respond to the plagues Who knew how to bring out the big questions of mortality and what we do, who would go out in the battlefields and tend to them.
Where was all that?
People were hiding, the church was hiding, and the message that was coming out of Rome and from a lot of bishops as well was simply, oh, follow whatever the government says.
There was no unique message of, this is a chance to talk about eternal life, this is a chance to talk about mortality, this is a chance to talk about The value of going out and doing the right thing and knowing that health is not the ultimate good of man.
We're not going to be carrying that forever.
Do you think that finally, if you look at just recent events in the last few months, whether it's resistance at school board meetings to the bigotry, the racism, the Marxism of critical race?
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If you look at the events in recent months, if you look at the resistance from teachers, from students, from parents at school board meetings, standing up to the bigotry, the Marxism of critical race theory, if you look at the voices that the Marxism of critical race theory, if you look at the voices that are calling for sanity
Twitter feed we had the most viral post ever two days ago with 3.5 million views of a video from a doctor talking the truth about COVID.
Do you think finally there are positive signs?
My contention is, and I'm curious if you think it's possible, the radical transgender agenda will be the most Catalytic in producing a Damascene moment for many people who've just taken a sedentary role in the culture war.
I think that the left has definitely overplayed its hand.
It has felt invincible.
It has felt like it could do no wrong and people would stand with it.
And I think it has not gauged the public response.
Even within the LGBT movement itself, There was a lot of resistance early on to those letters and saying, do we really want to associate ourselves with these more radical things like transgenderism, which is saying you're a girl saying your boy when you're obviously not this, this patent lie that we're caring about.
And I think that, yes, there, there is a reaction.
I think that a lot of people have, they're afraid to say so now because there's so much pressure to be politically correct in one's language, in one's public thoughts.
But behind closed doors and in people's hearts there's a rejection of this and I cannot believe that it's not major and massive because even people who tend slightly left but are more centrist are saying this is ridiculous, this has got to stop.
So are you saying you're disappointed and it should be more or do you think that it will grow?
Oh no, I think it will grow.
I think it's already bigger than we think.
I think the resistance to this It's much larger.
It's just you can't see it because people are not out waving banners.
But I'll tell you where we're going to see it.
Mark my words, in 2022, in the ballot boxes, the Democrats have believed and they've fallen into the more radical edge of their party line.
And even Democrats themselves, you know, they're not going to have the hatred of Donald Trump to back them up this time.
It's going to be very difficult for them not to lose Seats both in the House and in the Senate come 2022.
Yeah, they're going to try, they're going to try to continue what they've been doing for the last several decades and especially the last four years and they keep attacking my former boss Donald Trump.
I think they've forgotten that he's not president anymore but I think that's losing steam and what they're doing to this nation is quite shocking.
We are talking to Professor Thomas Williams of the St.
John's University Rome campus, Professor of Philosophy Professor, you have a book.
I think you just let it out of the bag that you have the manuscript back from the publishers.
Super exciting.
The title is The Coming Christian Persecution.
I'm not trying to be funny here.
What do you mean coming?
Isn't it already happening?
If we look at what happened under ISIS, what's happening under Boko Haram in Africa, what's happening to churches being closed down by the Canadian authorities or the police in California.
I don't mean to belittle the title.
Talk to us a little, give us a little bit of a teaser of what the book's main thesis will be.
Well, a teaser would be this, that I look at the beginning on what we understand by the age of Christian persecution.
So many people still today think, when they think of persecution, they think of the Roman Empire, they think of the martyrs in the Colosseum, they think of the lions, they think of the witness of those early Christians, which was spectacular.
The witness in blood.
But what they don't realize is the persecution that is worldwide at this point, how many Christians in the world live under active persecution, both in authoritarian states and in a growing way in formerly democratic, principled, former Christendom, the West, in other words.
And I think that what they don't realize is that this is very, very bad right now, the worst that it's ever been in history, and it's not getting better for two main reasons.
The drivers of Christian persecution are growing stronger every day, whether they be radical Islam, whether they be still the atheistic communism of North Korea and China, whether it's something like the Hindu nationalism that we see in India, especially under Narendra Modi, all these things, they're not growing smaller, they're growing greater.
But this is happening simultaneously with a lack of willpower on the part of the West to oppose this.
We no longer believe that this is something, the last acceptable prejudice is a prejudice against Christians.
And this is something where people, Wikipedia actually has an entry for this syndrome of Christian persecution.
In other words, they make fun of it as if this is something that doesn't really exist, but some people pretend that it does.
Because they don't want to face the fact of this reality.
And the mainstream media, they will not report on it.
They don't report.
On the deaths in Nigeria, for example, they don't report on this constant attack on Christians.
Christians are 75% in the world of all acts of anti-religious persecution are carried out against Christians.
And again, this is something that is growing greater.
So the subtitle of the book is why things will get much worse before they get better.
In other words, don't expect this to go away.
It's only going to get worse.
Where are you seeing, um...
Not positive signs, but where are you seeing inspirational moments occurring?
You know, the church and salvation is really linked inextricably to the blood of the martyrs.
So, talk to us about some of the amazing sacrifices, some of the amazing courageous stories out of whether it's Africa or China.
Tell us some of the things that the mainstream media just would not have you talk about or be known.
Well, there are there are so many stories of heroism of those who against all odds will carry on their Christian faith.
China is what you brought up is a fantastic example.
And I feel so sad for the underground Chinese church, because at the moment, the reply they're getting from Catholicism and a lot of Christianity in the world is, you know, why don't you just get along?
Why don't you?
You know, after having made sacrifices for decades, having been imprisoned, having been tortured, Having been put to death because many have simply been disappeared, they're not getting the support that they should from the Vatican and from other Christians.
So that's very sad.
But we see this.
Nigeria is amazing.
It's a country that I follow very, very closely because it's about 50% Muslim, 50% Christian, but the government is in the hands of Muslims.
And the Muslims also are much more willing to carry on an overt attack on Christians.
So the number of Christians that are simply wiped out, entire villages, priests and pastors, the churches that are burnt down, and yet they will not give up their faith because they know this is what gives meaning to their lives.
But it is something that makes me ashamed for us in the West.
We have it so good, we have it so easy, and yet we don't have that same courage often in our convictions and a willingness to suffer something for the faith.
It's not out yet.
We will have him back at length on America First when it is out.
It's the coming Christian persecution by our one-on-one guest, Professor Thomas Williams of St.
John's University in Rome.
Let's just be very specific for a moment, if we may, Tom.
Where do we begin?
Trying to fix our church, the Roman Catholic Church.
What is the realistic goal we can set ourselves to try and reinstill some backbone into at least that original denomination?
Well, I think it's always a question of starting each individual wherever we find ourselves, because, you know, we can throw stones at the Vatican all day long and complain about leadership.
But what's that going to do?
It's not going to do anything.
And these pontificates pass, leaders pass.
The important thing is me, in my family, in my workplace, in the influence that I have in whatever sector of life I'm working in, that that be radical and real.
And if we're willing to do that, instead of waiting for someone else to do it, instead of waiting for our leaders to be converted, yes, we should pray for them, we should hope for the best, but it begins with me.
And that's the way Christianity began.
The apostles who were simple men went out because they were commanded to go out and make disciples of all the nations, baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
And they took those words seriously.
And they knew that they didn't have much to give but what they had.
They put it all out there.
I think that's the challenge for us today.
Don't wait.
If you don't have the leadership today, don't wait for the leadership.
That's very true.
And also, you know, I know we start with ourselves, but we have to take strength and courage from some of the amazing leaders, some of the bishops and church leaders in Africa, don't we, Tom?
We do.
And also, I think back to our own history.
We're both of an age where we've lived through some glorious times, times of great saints, of great leaders.
I think, you know, Pope John Paul II, who was Pope for much of my adult life, who was just an outstanding stellar Christian figure.
We have, you know, we have Franklin Graham, the son of the great Billy Graham, who is, that message every single day, very gospel-focused, very much centered on Jesus Christ.
We have voices out there still that are telling us what to do, that are giving us that kind of witness and example.
And we need to associate with one another, we need to back each other up, and we need to move forward knowing that we have each other's backs.
Don't wait for leadership.
Be a leader.
Don't wait to be told what to do.
Take action.
That is the message from the first disciples to this day.
Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.
This is a new venture here, Professor.
This one-on-one where we get to talk to our guests for a longer time uninterrupted.
And I'd like to create a new tradition with our clothes.
One thing that is fixed, or at least after our discussion of the background of our guests, one other thing that is fixed.
And that's to try and focus on concrete To do's, recommendations, advice to our millions of listeners and subscribers.
One thing I've said on my show since the beginning is it's very simple.
I didn't invent it.
It's a Christian tradition.
When you wake up in the morning, ask yourself what you're going to do for the glory of God that day.
At the end of the day, before you go to sleep, have an examination of conscience and ask yourself, what did you achieve?
What do you still have to do?
What could you do better?
In that vein of Being focused on what you are doing for our Lord and Creator.
What are things people can do who didn't go to seminary, didn't spend time at London University studying philosophy and theology?
How can we better ourselves now at whatever age we're at to help us focus on the here and the now in the interests of the eternal?
Well, I think one thing that we touched upon earlier, we talked about the importance of philosophy and the importance of theology.
I think that even if people didn't have the benefit of a formal education in those areas, there are really good books.
There are tools.
You know, and I think that ongoing reading, ongoing formation, kind of filling up those lacunae that may exist in our lives and helping ourselves to be better instruments for this battle, this cultural war that we're fighting, I think those are things we have to do.
Instead of just plunking down in front of a television set to actually read a book from time to time, read a book that is not only entertaining but also formative.
I think the aspect you talked about of prayer is absolutely essential.
Our own spiritual life, if we're not an even keel, if we're not good with God, and if we don't have an active, for Catholics, an active sacramental life, an active prayer life, you know, that's something that we're going to feel.
We're going to run out of gas.
We're not going to have, you know, we're not going to be inspired by the Holy Spirit to be doing the things we ought to do.
No, these are very basic, but essential things that we can get so lost in the details and the plans and the entertainment and the complaining and the criticism, frankly, because, you know, often we waste a huge amount of our time simply complaining instead of building.
I've always been too intimidated despite having been born in the land where English is the mother tongue originally to use the word lacunae and he has done it on my show so I'm impressed I'm impressed I love the phrase to be good with God I think that is a bumper sticker for how to how to think about Our relationship with our Creator.
In the last few moments we have, let's talk about concrete things that they can read, that are digestible, aren't tracts of your that are hard to read.
You've mentioned C.S.
Lewis, superlative.
You've mentioned G.K.
Chesterton, the writings of Benedict.
A little bit harder, a little bit harder.
What else should people look at if they want to try and better themselves every single day?
Well, you know, something very simple.
If you're looking for your spiritual life, there's some very beautiful, very simple works.
Reading Mother Teresa of Calcutta, who is a modern saint and just a stunning woman, a stunning leader.
Reading her, she has the most simple language in the world, but it's so inspiring.
And it actually, especially for beginners, for people who feel like, well, I don't want to read a theological treatise, but I'd really like to improve in my prayer life and relationship with God.
Absolutely fantastic.
There's someone like St.
Teresa of Lisieux who also has a very simple approach to the spiritual life.
This is wonderful.
And then when you're talking more in the philosophical area, there are writers now who are trying to digest, for example, St.
Thomas Aquinas and make him more accessible for people who don't have a basis in philosophy.
And to be able to understand those principles in more simple terms that are more layman's terms, I think that's a great place to start.
And then lastly, Professor, what is your message to those who have been... I mean, I'm just ashamed for my fellow man that I live in one of the most conservative Catholic districts in America.
And all through COVID there was genuflection to the altar of St.
Fauci.
To this day there are still people wearing masks who don't have underlying conditions and who are living in fear.
The church was, you know, at least half empty for most of COVID.
What is your message to those who have been cowed or who feel intimidated and who really are afraid to speak the truth of their faith or of anything that bucks the conventional wisdoms.
What is your message to them if they consider themselves to be Christians, Professor?
Well, in 1978, when Pope John Paul II was elected, the first thing he said when he stepped out on the balcony was, be not afraid, be not afraid.
He took the words from Jesus, of course.
This is not originally with him, but that was a message of his entire pontificate.
And I think We were very much emboldened.
I was a young person at the time, but that message, be not afraid.
What is it that you're afraid of?
You know, and I think that we need to rediscover the virtue, and this is a Christian virtue, it's also a classical virtue, as you said, of courage or of fortitude.
this willingness to face things that are difficult, not to just lie down, not to be snowflakes, not to just give up as soon as things get difficult.
We need to rediscover the value of that.
And our society won't tell us this.
Our society will always talk about the soft virtues.
They don't want to talk about the courage that is necessary to be true men and true Christians in today's day and age.
Thank you for reminding us of St.
John Paul II.
His pontificate really was defined by the phrase, be not afraid, of course, from the scripture.
And the one thing you have to ask yourself is, what are you afraid of?
Is it the opprobrium of your fellow man?
Is it something to do with life here on earth?
Because if that's the case, that fear is ill-placed.
The only thing you have to fear is God.
And to quote the good professor, you've got to be good with God.
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