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July 20, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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	Thank you.
	I'm still not sure how this social media thingamabob works.
	It's a little bit like voodoo or black magic or a black box.
	Especially when you know that behind the scenes, it may not be a short man behind a green curtain, it's rather thin-necked young men in Palo Alto are fiddling with The knobs if you know what I mean on the graphic equalizer of information.
	So you never know what really resonates or why it resonates and whether or not people have censored something specifically today and targeted you.
	But sometimes you post something and my oh my is the left utterly triggered.
	Today I didn't think it was a big deal.
	But it had a kind of res... Oh sorry, I'm supposed to do this.
	Shad gets very annoyed if I don't do this.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker and this is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Program identified.
	Back to work.
	So this morning I tweeted out the following on Jack Dorsey's social media platform.
	With regards to CRT, critical race theory, that we've been discussing because America's waking up.
	Here's a very simple, short series of statements.
	Critical race theory, question mark.
	How about some critical race fact, colon.
	The Democrats created the Ku Klux Klan.
	Just, you know, critical race fact.
	That's all I did.
	That's all I posted.
	And my oh my.
	If there's the metric, For touching the neuralgic points of the left-wing fascistic Democrats.
	I think I found it today.
	Because my Twitter has blown up.
	I'm just looking at my Instagram.
	I just took a shot of the tweet and posted it on Instagram.
	Because you're not supposed to do texts on Instagram.
	I don't care.
	I just don't know what I'm doing.
	I got thousands, thousands of likes.
	But what's interesting are the comments on Twitter.
	I mean just the disgusting, the perverted, and I mean perverted, I mean sexually perverted, filthy, filthy reactions from people who should seek some guidance, some mental health assistance In reaction to that.
	Now, why would you use filthy, filthy, filthy language?
	Why would you insult me, my family, my mother?
	Somebody was, you know, delightfully insulted my mother.
	My dead mother, by the way, who is in heaven.
	That is a fact.
	Why?
	Why in reaction to this tweet?
	Well, let me read it again.
	Hey, are you there, Zacky Poo?
	Are you watching the show?
	The guy with the squeaky voice?
	From Salon?
	Or is it Slate?
	Who cares?
	Media Matters?
	Are you watching?
	Let me read it again, because guys, have I not been aggressive enough?
	Have I not been iconoclastic and edgy?
	When was the... Jeff, are you there?
	When was the last time that Media Matters did a... you know they type up my show when I say something?
	Yeah, they used to be the official transcriber.
	That's right!
	They were my free transcribers!
	I still think they started slacking off when they were able to work from home from COVID.
	So they're in the basement with their chai latte and they're just taking it a little bit easy.
	Yeah, they're not working 40 hours a week anymore.
	When did they ever work 40 hours?
	They're not doing what they used to.
	When was the last time you worked 40 hours?
	That little?
	Yeah, that little.
	Uh, three years ago.
	But seriously, because the last transcript they did of me was, what, months ago?
	It's definitely been a while.
	Guys, you're slacking off.
	Let me see if I can provoke you today.
	So let me read it again.
	Critical race theory?
	How about some critical race fact?
	The Democrats created the Ku Klux Klan.
	Boom!
	Social media explodes.
	The left have a connection fit collectively.
	Why?
	Because it's true!
	Can I read to you?
	One of these putzes, they try, when they're not insulting you, they say, oh, but Southern strategy, uh, Southern, there is no such thing as a Southern strategy.
	It's a figment of your febrile imaginations.
	And then one of them said, fact check, Democrat party did not found the KKK.
	And I said, really cupcake, can I have a sauce?
	And they sent me one.
	At least one of them tried.
	A little bit.
	And it's an article from that paragon of truth, USA Today.
	Oh, not by... Oh, USA Today, utterly, utterly unbiased.
	We know that, right?
	Because they love conservatives, and Donald Trump especially.
	And I thought, what the heck?
	It's a joke, because it's USA Today.
	But let me read the article that is meant to destroy my observation of historic fact.
	And what's the line?
	The great refutation of my tweet!
	Historians agree that although factions of the Democrat Party did majorly contribute to the Civil War's start and the KKK's founding, it is inaccurate to say the party is responsible for either.
	Oh, so it's only bits of the Democrat Party that created the KKK.
	Oh, so it wasn't every single person that together put on a white hood, therefore what I said is wrong.
	Fail.
	I mean, that is the utter self-own of the century.
	Because if the article had said, no, it was the Republicans, or no, it was a third independent group, maybe if it had been written by a serious historian, by VDH, by Thomas Sewell, but to say, well, only part of the Democrat Party created the KKK, Yeah, that's my point, my friends.
	It wasn't conservatives.
	And here's another public service announcement for you.
	Let's see if we can trigger Zacky to get up out of his bed, take off his pyjamas, put some clothes on, and get typing.
	Mr. Patrizio, did you know, as a former leader of the Republicans in college, so strange that now you're a Stalker of Republicans.
	Very creepy what you did at CPAC and elsewhere.
	The first Republican president was the great emancipator, Abraham Lincoln, who by the way, by the way, was assassinated by a Democrat.
	The crucial... Let's have a second public service announcement.
	The crucial civil rights amendments of the 20th century were blocked by the Democrats.
	And in case you missed it, if you just woke up, I mean, I know it's early for you.
	3.15 on the East Coast.
	You had a late night reading anime or manga or something.
	The fact is that the KKK was created by the Democrats.
	Maybe not every single one of them.
	I mean, maybe not every single Democrat was frog-marched to the Grand Wizard, but it was Democrats that created it.
	And that's why your party, your new party, is the institutional home Of bigotry and racism in America.
	A party that is now headed by this senile old man.
	You have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't black.
	Yeah, that man.
	A man who said this.
	Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.
	And a man when he was in the Senate not only said I don't want my kids growing up in a racial jungle, He also tried to block the Supreme Court nomination of a black man who dared to be a conservative, Clarence Thomas.
	Biden is a perfect example of the innate bigotry of the institution that is the Democrat Party that used to run slave plantations and now just has a political plantation.
	If you're a Democrat, especially if you're black American, please emancipate yourself.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	next.
	The great one, Mark Levin.
	Have you seen the reactions to that tweet? - Right.
	Read them.
	It is nuts.
	The left have gone, cuckoo.
	Can you put his mic on?
	Oh, Mark!
	Hey!
	Welcome!
	I'm great!
	I'm great!
	I was just talking about this tweet.
	I tweeted out just a short tweet this morning.
	Critical race theory?
	How about a critical race fact?
	The Democrats created the KKK.
	They've gone nuts, Mark.
	In reaction to that one tweet, they have gone... But that's why they're just losing it.
	It's delightful to watch.
	No!
	But that's, I think, the reason for the reaction.
	Alright, fabulous to have you on the show.
	I heard you with Dan Bongini yesterday.
	Got the book in front of me.
	A load of questions.
	We'll try and cram them into the two segments that we have.
	Thank you, my friend.
	I appreciate it.
	Are you doing any signings in Virginia?
	No.
	We're not allowed to go to these places.
	We tried.
	Oh my gosh.
	Oh, beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	When are you going to be there?
	Do you know?
	Alright, I'm going to mention it.
	August 14th.
	When are you going to be there, do you know?
	August 14th.
	It's sold out.
	All right, I'm going to mention it, August 14th.
	Well, there's nothing anyone can do.
	No, but just, you know, mark the day.
	Beautiful day.
	I'm trying to remember where it was, because it was in Virginia at a Barnes & Noble, where we were there together, or I bumped into you.
	Tyson's Corner.
	Tyson's!
	It was Tyson's.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Absolutely.
	Which book was that?
	Do you recall?
	Oh, my God.
	Meritopia, maybe?
	Oh, I think so.
	That sounds right.
	That sounds right.
	Right after Liberty and Tyranny, I believe.
	Yes.
	I could be wrong.
	No, it wasn't Liberty and Tyranny.
	I think it was after that.
	After that.
	Yeah.
	How's your lovely bride?
	Great.
	Yours?
	Good, good, good, good, good.
	I'm kind of fed up with working at home.
	You know what?
	I like it because nobody's around here anyway.
	I'm down in the dungeon and everybody else is running upstairs.
	Yeah, but we have to do Zoom call after Zoom call after Zoom call.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well.
	But we should get together.
	I agree.
	Give me a few weeks.
	I got to come over there.
	Yeah, of course.
	You're busy now.
	You're busy.
	It took me months to write it too, every damn moment.
	It's tough.
	I got to write my fourth book now and it's just carving the time out.
	You know what?
	It's also invigorating and very important.
	Yeah.
	So we got to keep at it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Fabulous audiences.
	And we've got to battle these bastards in every platform that we have.
	And you know, People rely on things that we're doing, and I think it's fantastic.
	Yeah, well, talk radio is ours.
	We own it, so... Yes.
	They tried and they failed.
	They so tried.
	Look, when your fuel is hatred, it's very... Nobody wants to listen to three hours of hatred every day.
	No.
	Hatred, repetition, and ignorance.
	All right.
	Forty seconds and we are live.
	Stand by.
	All right, man.
	Thank you.
	Thanks. Thanks.
	Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.
	Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.
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	Now, what a turn up for the books.
	This doesn't happen every single day.
	When you get a legend in our industry, a man who doesn't need a name, he's got a title.
	Of the great one.
	And he's on my show with his brand new book.
	It's in my hands right now.
	American Marxism by Mark Levin, former Chief of Staff to the Attorney General of the United States.
	Mark, welcome back.
	Seb, you're a great man, and you know what I speak.
	You know well of communism.
	Your parents know well of communism, don't they?
	How did he do that?
	We didn't rehearse any of this.
	I've got this long list of questions scribbled on the side of my piece of paper here that I want to ask you, and he just stole my first one.
	He literally just did a Vulcan mind meld, reached into my cranium and stole it.
	So here's my question to you, Mark, and I wish we had all three hours.
	As a child of those who suffered under fascist occupation as children, and then who were persecuted as adults by communists, my dad tortured and eventually liberated by the revolutionaries in Hungary.
	For years and years, I really took umbrage with my fellow Americans when they said, oh, that Democrat is a commie, that Democrat is a socialist.
	And I said, really?
	Can I talk to you about real communism?
	Can I talk to you about the scars on my father's wrists?
	from the secret police when they tortured him.
	Mark, I don't do it anymore.
	I think we've arrived.
	Am I crazy?
	No, and it's not.
	It doesn't have to be communism in the technical sense.
	It's the Americanization of Marxism.
	That's why I call it American Marxism.
	Right.
	And I explained it in the first book.
	Now, why do I do that?
	To be provocative?
	No, because they tell us who they are.
	I've done a deep dive here.
	I get into what these scholars have written.
	I get into what these professors have said.
	I get into who their intellectuals are, where they're from, how they're spreading this, where they're spreading this.
	So there's over 400 endnotes at the end of the book if people want to check it, particularly over at the New York Slimes or the Washington Compost, if they'd like to check it out.
	And there's simply no denying what's going on.
	And whether it's critical theory, which spawned critical race theory, which spawned LATCRIT, a whole other area.
	Whether it is the so-called Green New Deal, which is a red old deal, and the climate change movement, which was the climate coal, climate heat movement, which is a de-growth movement that was born in the 70s in Europe.
	It's another Marxist movement to attack capitalism and us, the greatest industrialized country man has ever known.
	Whether it is immigration, open borders for a reason, not just to change the democracy, that would be bad enough.
	But because of this LATCRIT movement, which again grew out of critical race theory, critical theory, and what is it?
	That says that since America was settled by white Protestant Europeans, that white Protestant Europeans are white people generally.
	You're the illegal alien.
	And so the indigenous peoples to this part of the world, and it's hard to know who they are, but nonetheless, they have free reign in this area.
	The United States is a It's filled with interlopers, and it's an illegitimate country.
	This is being taught in our campuses, in the Chiquinho Studies programs, and I go on and on about the trans movement.
	There's a trans movement.
	In other words, if you want to transition, I mean, you don't need to tell me about it, but now it is a movement that eight-year-olds in elementary school are being taught, and so I peel all this back.
	I go to the roots of it, because as you know, We can't push back and defeat these movements unless we understand them.
	We can't develop strategies and tactics to stop them and to claw our way out of the abyss unless we understand them.
	And so that's the first six chapters, one page at a time, one chapter at a time.
	Yeah, this is how we won the Cold War.
	It took us, you know, four decades, but it began with the Long Telegram.
	George Kennan explaining what Communism and the Soviet Union is.
	This is a new Long Telegram.
	It's American Marxism.
	Mark Levin's new book.
	He is the host of Life, Liberty and Levin, and of course his seminal radio show every single day.
	Let me ask you, I have a theory.
	With the coronavirus allowing American parents to see the indoctrination of their children through these Zoom lectures at home, with parents standing up to CRT, with transgender radicalism, I think, making a lot of mothers wake up to what is going on, we are seeing this Damascene moment, this moment where a lot of Americans are waking up who otherwise didn't know what was going on.
	Do you concur, Mark?
	Absolutely.
	And I think you're right.
	During this pandemic, people were seeing what was going on in the classroom, and they said, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the hell did that teacher just say to my kid?
	Right.
	And you're right.
	People didn't know what critical race theory was or this trans movement was or other things that are being taught to our kids are.
	And this is one of the reasons, as a footnote, that I've been pushing out for a couple of months based on what a caller said and what the American thinker had suggested.
	But I amended it, and I think we ought to have cameras in the classroom.
	Yes.
	We have them in cop cars.
	We have them on cops.
	We have them in many courtrooms.
	You know, here's the thing, Seb.
	We own these school systems, and we don't know a damn thing about them.
	And we're not allowed in there without permission.
	You get one minute to speak at a board meeting.
	At the end of the book, I say, you know what?
	Let's unleash FOIA requests.
	Let's find out how they hire teachers, how they promote teachers, what merit is based on, what their contracts say.
	How they choose classroom curriculum, who they bring in to train the teachers.
	Let us go after the NEA and AFT, which are the enemy of your children.
	They've demonstrated that over and over again, and they are certainly part of this American Marxist movement.
	You can file complaints against them with the Internal Revenue Service.
	I know Landmark Legal Foundation does and did, and I explained with links and groups and all kinds of things in the last chapter.
	But the first six chapters, Sever, are crucial.
	And those are the chapters that do the explaining based on what they, their founders have said.
	You know, people say, oh, this Delgado who wrote this book White Fragility and this guy Kennedy, they didn't invent this.
	They're making millions off of it.
	They didn't invent it.
	And I go back and tell you who did invent it.
	And so they are Marxists.
	This isn't a Red Scare.
	This isn't McCarthyism.
	This is them.
	This is the leadership for Black Lives Matter who tells you who they are.
	These professors who tell you who they are.
	I even have a piece from 1989, Seb, from the New York Times, where a writer, this is, what, 30 years ago or so, where a writer says that Marxism is the new in, and how do they do it?
	They've broken up into these different pieces.
	You know, they try and find gaps in the American system, imperfections, picket stabs, so it's race.
	You know, critical race theory is not even about race, it's about Marxism.
	The climate change movement isn't about really affecting the climate, it's about stealing your private property.
	And so I go on and on about these various movements and their backgrounds.
	Learn, educate yourself, educate those around you.
	You cannot defeat an enemy, foreign or domestic.
	Unless you understand its essence.
	The book, super readable, is American Marxism from the author of Men in Black, Emeritopia.
	Of course, the great one, Mark Levin.
	He's going to be with us for one more segment.
	I'm going to ask who's winning and what does he think about President Trump's class action suit.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, host of America First here on the Salem Radio Network.
	wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that dial.
	Mike's on.
	Mark, are you still head of Landmark?
	I'm just the chairman, so I don't run it.
	All right, I want to mention that.
	Seth, let me tell you something so everybody on Roku can hear this too.
	You're fantastic.
	Absolutely fantastic.
	When The Great One says that, you put that on your resume.
	I appreciate that.
	It's true.
	I appreciate it.
	Well, look, I tell everybody, I never... If anybody told me in the last 40 years that you'd have a national show in America, I would have said, you know, get to Bellevue.
	But I have to say, from about the age of seven or eight in England, my mother always had the radio... If my mother was awake, the radio was on, but she was listening to highbrow stuff on Radio 4, and she was a real culture vulture.
	I, from about the age of eight, I had one of those little plastic, you remember those little plastic transistor radios?
	Transition radios, yeah, me too.
	And I had one under my pillow, and as a kid I would listen till about 1am to talk radio.
	We, I did the same thing!
	Are you serious?
	When I started out, I used to say I'm a quasi-professional radio host and a professional listener.
	When I see your blood, you just love it.
	You just love it.
	It's true.
	Very true.
	When I signed with Salem, I remember Dennis Prager said to me, about two weeks in, we were in a cigar bar somewhere, and he said, Sebastian, do you understand what our job is?
	We get paid to tell people what we think.
	And that's nice.
	That's nice.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's nice.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So how long are you going to dedicate to the book?
	Another couple of weeks of Pushing, pushing, pushing.
	I'm on a mission, brother.
	I'm on a mission.
	I want us to galvanize.
	I want us to form a movement.
	I want us to press ahead and defeat these people.
	I'll be doing it the rest of my life.
	Oh, I know.
	I know.
	When it's a little less intense, let's find somewhere outside the swamp to grab a bike.
	Oh, I agree.
	Yep.
	Your wife and mine.
	We'll do it.
	Yeah, just the four of us.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All right, 90 seconds.
	Oh, come in with the sake cup, please, Eric.
	Saki cut 7.
	Uh, no.
	Wait.
	13.
	Oh, 13?
	Oh, okay.
	Yes.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	13.
	Got it.
	Come in with cut 13.
	Got it.
	Cut 13. 33 seconds long. - So when did you start writing this?
	16 months ago.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	It's, you know, stopping and spurting and doing what I needed to do as time went on to keep an eye on things.
	My dream is to see the Walter Durante times collapse one day.
	Oh, I'm with you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they're a disgrace.
	They're disgusting.
	Totally.
	Pullitzer's and all.
	All right.
	30 seconds.
	I'm happy to talk about that if you want.
	Yeah.
	I got a quick question.
	Two questions and then we can pivot to Times and Washington Post.
	And I hit on that in the book and my prior book.
	Oh yeah.
	All right.
	Kill on the mics.
	Yep.
	Ready.
	Ready.
	touch with these social media platforms.
	And those engagements typically happen through members of our senior staff, but also members of our COVID-19 team.
	Given, as Dr. Murthy conveyed, this is a big issue of misinformation, specifically on the pandemic.
	In terms of actions, Alex, that we have taken, or we're working to take, I should say, from the federal government, We've increased disinformation research and tracking within the Surgeon General's office.
	We're flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation.
	That is Jen Psaki last week admitting that the White House is coordinating with the social media information oligarchs, the censor Americans.
	I'm sure he has something to say about that.
	He is the chairman of the Landmark Legal Foundation, former chief of staff to the Attorney General of the United States.
	But more importantly, he is the host of The Mark Levin Show and the author of the brand new book, American Marxism, a man who I have been honored to be on his show after he heard about what What is your reaction to President Trump's declaration of his class action suit against Big Tech?
	and to bump into him in Virginia at a bookstore when he was at another signing.
	What an amazing party that was, a party for patriots.
	Mark, with your background in government, advising members of the Reagan cabinet as well, what is your reaction to President Trump's declaration of his class action suit against big tech?
	Well, Jen Psaki would make an excellent opponent.
	She basically coughed up the goods right there and then.
	Now they've tried to walk it back.
	But I want your audience to understand something.
	This is the nature of government under Democrats, under so-called progressives.
	Progressives are basically the bastard progeny of Marx.
	The early progressives liked Marx.
	They actually liked Stalin.
	They embraced a lot of the ideology.
	But that said, When you look at what Woodrow Wilson did, he was the first to develop an entire propaganda campaign with a guy by the name of Bernays, who wrote a book, obviously enough, called Propaganda.
	And one of his greatest fans, Bernays, was Adolf Hitler.
	He read his book, too.
	I'm not comparing, obviously, Woodrow Wilson to Adolf Hitler, but I will say that Woodrow Wilson was an out-of-the-closet racist and segregationist who resegregated the United States military and the civil service.
	He was a Democrat, a progressive, by the way.
	Franklin Roosevelt was another one who was into this.
	He had a guy over at the Internal Revenue Service collecting information on his newspaper opponents, on his political opponents.
	This is all in On Freedom of the Press.
	John Kennedy shared files, IRS files, with Ben Bradley of then Newsweek, then later the Washington Post, on his opponents.
	Lyndon Johnson had tapping devices even on Hubert Humphrey.
	He wanted to know what he was saying when he was running for president as his vice president.
	He had tap devices at the Democrat National Convention in Atlantic City listening in on Martin Luther King and others he disagreed with.
	And, of course, Robert Kennedy approved the tapping of Martin Luther King by J. Edgar Hoover.
	So the Democrats are very good at this, and they do it a lot.
	None of them ever pay a price.
	They see big tech as just another opportunity.
	And not only that, let's remind everybody, in addition to my tweet about the Democrats running the KKK, Woodrow Wilson did show birth of the nation in the White House.
	That's how racist a Democrat president he was.
	We're talking to Mark Levin, author of American Marxism.
	We don't rehearse any of these interviews, not even with the Great One.
	I'm going to ask you a big question.
	It may be impolitic, but I have to ask it.
	Mark.
	Yes.
	You have helped us understand the left, perhaps more than anyone.
	But, I have to ask you, how much of an obstacle to us being this shining city on a hill again is not the Democrat Party, but the establishment GOP, Mark?
	Well, the interesting thing is, in this book, at no time do I say that we can rely on the Republican Party for anything.
	This book is written to we the people, the American people, very much like liberty and tyranny.
	We cannot rely on the Established Republican Party for a lot of reasons, but one in particular, they have no friggin' idea what's swirling around them.
	They're just nuts.
	No, no, that time has passed.
	You were seminal with the rise of the Tea Party movement.
	Then came America First and Make America Great Again.
	It is time to finally get truly serious about saving this nation.
	Get educated, listen to this man, Mark Levin, his show, his book, American Marxism, and of course Life, Liberty & Levin.
	God bless you Mark, keep doing what you do, love to your bride, and please never ever stop.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Okay.
	Okay.
	Titles.
	For 1A, let's post 1A.
	How I Made the Left Mad.
	How I Triggered the Left?
	No.
	Okay, How I Made the Left Mad, got it.
	And then for Mark, what do we think?
	Maybe something about the White House social media collusion, because that's probably the most troubling stuff.
	In my opinion.
	Yeah, but how to word it?
	I just used the title of the book.
	Yeah, American Marxism.
	Okay, yeah, American Marxism.
	This is American Marxism.
	Got it.
	This is American Marxism.
	All right.
	Thanks for making me ask that question.
	That was good.
	And Maximo.
	Oh, Maximo.
	Maybe taking a shot at AOC?
	Yeah.
	AOC and the other useful idiots.
	All right.
	Stuff.
	Useful idiots.
	All right.
	70 seconds. - Why did, why did I ask you for cut four?
	Did I ask that for Mark?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, can you, can you, um... Oh, Reagan?
	Yeah, Reagan.
	Will you come in with that?
	Coming in with cut four.
	17 seconds long.
	Yeah.
	I'm starving.
	Okay.
	When I go to the gym in the morning, I'm always starving.
	Oh!
	Space launch!
	Gonna have Jeff's take on the space launch.
	Oh boy.
	There's too many Jeffs here.
	We got Jeff Bezos on the next one.
	We got two Jeffs and then Bezos Jeff.
	Alright.
	Standing by. Standing
	by. Standing
	by.
	They say, we're always against things, we're never for anything.
	Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant.
	It's just that they know so much that isn't so.
	Is that one of his best lines?
	I think it's up there with after the attempted assassination and that balloon pops and he said, you missed me.
	I mean, it's just totally up there and very, very apposite for having just spoken to Mark Levin, somebody so crucial to the success of the Reagan administration.
	And he's right.
	It's not a question anymore.
	They're out of the closet.
	They are dictatorial in their tendencies.
	You don't have to have gulags for this country to have a party that believes that freedom of speech is only for them and not for their political opponents.
	Have you heard the latest from Maxine Waters?
	Just listen to what she says in this latest travesty.
	Cut 11.
	Our attorneys generals, whether they're in New York or in Georgia, they've got to go after him about how he's cheated on his taxes, how his family has taken advantage of having a non-profit that they use like it was their own money, on and on and on.
	One way or the other, we've got to stop Trump.
	We have to post just that video, Jeff.
	It's more than undermining our democracy.
	They're dangerous and they're out to do harm.
	And so we're in a bad time in this country trying to manage all of this.
	But we must manage it.
	We must protect our democracy.
	We must not allow Trump to win.
	We have to post just that video, Jeff.
	Will you tell our huge team, our social media team, that that video, Maxine Waters, must be posted just by itself?
	Because what did you say there?
	That's actually Levent Iberia.
	That's the founder of the proto-KGB's line.
	Show me the man and I will find you the crime.
	She said, we've got to unleash.
	And by the way, why can't she speak English?
	It's not Attorney Generals.
	If it's multiple AGs, it's Attorneys General.
	I mean, seriously woman, how bloody long have you been in Congress?
	You can't even speak English?
	She says you've got to use the Attorney's General to take him down.
	Why?
	She said it twice at the end.
	Because he can't be allowed to win.
	Because the people can't be allowed to re-elect Donald Trump because that would be democracy.
	That would be the free exercise of your political sovereignty.
	That must not be allowed.
	That's why she's a fascist.
	Yes, Maxine Waters.
	And you can quote me, little Zack.
	Okay, big News of the day, kinda, kinda big news of the day, is the space launch of Jeff Bezos.
	I was in the gym earlier today and after I got back home, my Jeff, Mr. G, texted me something.
	What did you have to say?
	I didn't even watch it.
	I was busy pumping iron.
	What did you say about it?
	That was the most overrated scam I have ever seen in my life.
	Why?
	Explain to me what you saw this morning, this historic Amazon event.
	This has been pumped up for years that they're finally going to go to space.
	I think the total time was like 10 minutes up and down.
	I mean, I guess technically they reached the altitude and stayed there for a minute, but they were in space.
	But it's not, that's like saying, I want to go, I'm going to go to Paris.
	Flying into Paris, getting off the plane for two minutes, not leaving the airport and coming back.
	Did I really go to Paris?
	Did I really, you know, experience all that?
	It was nothing.
	But you also said it was a great promo for him, right?
	Absolutely!
	It was the biggest marketing ploy ever.
	Because that's all they talked about.
	Everything was Amazon today.
	It's all over the news.
	It was a joke.
	Okay, so this is exactly what I reacted to Jeff when I heard this when I got back home.
	I said, if that's really what he did today, if it was this couple of minutes up in the air, lots of, you know, Amazon.com promos, and I was at the gym.
	At the gym I had a kettlebell and I did one of those things where you're holding a kettlebell and then you jump up onto one of those platforms and you jump down, right?
	It's kind of like a, what do you call it, mobile squat, whatever.
	After my chat with Jeff, I thought, well, if that's what Jeff Bezos did, I should have called my jumping up onto that box the Sebastian Gorka America First Space Launch.
	I mean, really?
	Promo, promo, promo.
	What do you think?
	I mean, you're defying gravity just like they were.
	Yes!
	They were throwing skittles in the air today.
	It's a short trip.
	I should have had, like, an America First t-shirt or some kind of... No!
	Like Roger Moore in Moonraker, like a silver Lame space suit and my kettlebell, and jumping up and down and saying, this is the America First Sebastian Gorka launch.
	By the way, don't get me wrong.
	I was on Jennifer Horde's show early this morning in Los Angeles.
	I am absolutely for space exploration.
	I want us to be in Mars, Saturn, Jupiter.
	I want us to, you know, do the Star Trek, you know, the Last Frontier.
	But also, I can't stand these fears saying, oh, but why isn't he helping poor people?
	It's his money.
	If he wants to burn it in a pile, it's his money.
	But the ultimate point is, I'm not really impressed.
	Eric, what did you think?
	Are you impressed with Dr. Evil's space launch?
	I'm not impressed at all, because I wish he could have just stayed there and not come back to Earth.
	Well, that's an old line.
	I've heard that line like a hundred times.
	What about another Jeff?
	Yes, we have another Jeff running the board.
	Your reaction, because Shad's still on some vacation somewhere.
	I know.
	I think Eric stole my line, in my feeling.
	He wasn't away nearly long enough.
	And not impressive.
	Uh, no.
	As a matter of fact, I wasn't even aware it happened until I heard it on the news ten minutes later.
	Well, and if you blink, you missed it!
	I think you were in the air longer.
	I may have been.
	I may have been.
	However, I will say one thing.
	He was beaten by Richard Branson.
	It's a bit embarrassing.
	And then the stuff that I'm really excited about is what Elon Musk's doing.
	What Elon Musk is doing, that is going places.
	And he doesn't go out there with just the idea of promotion.
	I've met him.
	He was hanging around the The White House like a fanboy for weeks when we took over the administration.
	So I met him a couple of times.
	That guy, he's got a plan.
	He's going places.
	So keep on doing what you do, Elon Musk.
	And Jeff, I don't think America's impressed, but nice promo.
	Nice promo, my friends.
	We're going to talk to Brent momentarily after the break because I think he has something to say as well about today's event and that strangely shaped rocket ship.
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	All right.
	Mic's on.
	There we go.
	Yeah, that's the other thing.
	What?
	Why did Branson do it two weeks ago and nobody even talked about it?
	I know, I know.
	90 seconds. 90
	seconds.
	One minute.
	Seconds.
	He's one of our stalwarts.
	Seconds.
	He likes alliteration.
	His name is Brent, and he's in Los Angeles.
	Brent, your reaction, or rather, I think you have something to say about the media reaction to Space Launch Bezos.
	Indeed, Marxist warrior Gorka.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	Yeah, well, on a day which should thrill me, I'm really terrified.
	Because today the Bezos rocket delivered to the Democrats a victorious Soviet Sputnik moment.
	Explain that!
	Explain that!
	Well, his shiny socialist star successfully buried the story of 40 million Americans teetering on the verge of falling to California communist control.
	Yes.
	And our socialist secretary of state, Shirley Weber, has apparently been directed to demolish California's democracy by blocking Larry Elder's run for governorship using a Democrat law fair.
	And this reminds me, this is a political deja vu of Clarence Thomas and his left wing lynching.
	And this is California Jim Crow as far as I'm concerned.
	Yeah, so for those who missed it, they're trying to block Larry Elder's application to be one of the candidates on the recall ballot for Gruesome Newsome in California, saying some technicality about he didn't fill in the right forms.
	I know Larry Elder.
	He's going to be with us this week for a whole hour on the show.
	There's no way that this former lawyer missed any paperwork.
	So yeah, although I think the comparison to Clarence Thomas is perhaps a little strange because that was in your face a high-tech lynching.
	This is kind of cowardly, Brent, isn't it?
	This is kind of backroom skullduggery.
	They're better at being undermined right now.
	And they operate in the dark.
	They haven't even the courage to stand up and claim anything outwardly.
	That's who they are.
	Thank you, Brent.
	Let's go to Tom in Atlanta, also on Bezos, line two.
	Hey, you know, these billionaires want to spend all this money on throwing chalk dust up in the sky to stop global warming.
	You know what, Sebastian?
	I got out my 30-year-old Texas Instruments solar-powered calculator and came up with the following numbers.
	You could irrigate 20 inches of water across a mile strip in the transition between Saharan and Sub-Saharan Africa Yeah.
	in one year, and you could use Israel's desalination technology, which they're pretty darn good at these days.
	They're a net exporter of fresh water, and you would take off 1 200th of an inch of water off of the sea level.
	And if that works out, we can expand that.
	Think of the economic boom for Africa by doing so, and we'd be absorbing CO2 by all the plantings for crops and trees and other things.
	Tom, Tom.
	There's one mistake.
	You think they care.
	They don't care.
	They're just virtue signaling and it's also just a vanity project for them.
	I love that.
	Texas.
	That takes me back.
	My Texas instruments calculator.
	Great call, Tom.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Conrad?
	Yes, sir.
	Oh, I can't I can't hear you.
	Can you hear me now?
	It's not coming on my Oh, are you there?
	I'm here.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Are you excited about the Bezos space launch?
	I absolutely cannot take any interest in I mean, I know him, and I know Richard Branson, and I wish them well, but no, I have no interest at all.
	I mean, look, in one sense it is interesting that the private sector is doing this, and obviously it's going to lead somewhere, but anybody who'd pay $250,000 to be weightless for 15 minutes is a fool waiting to be deprived of his money, I think.
	My producer called it a very canny promo stunt for Amazon.
	All of that.
	And look, Branson doesn't have a fraction of the money that Bezos does, so it's a real achievement for him to get funding for this.
	Yes.
	But I still think it's... Look, I understand... Hang on, we're ready to roll.
	It's sense and intelligence, correct?
	Uh... uh... that's right, yes.
	Standby.
	Oh, no, I'm sorry.
	You're listening to America First with Dr. G.
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	One of your favourites.
	He is, of course, Lord Conrad Black.
	And he can be found on Twitter at ConradMBlack.
	Lord Black, also with our good friends of VDH, Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett, you have a podcast, correct?
	That's right, it's called Scholars and Sense.
	Scholars and Sense, my friends.
	Check it out right now.
	With three men of that ilk in one room, I'd like to be there as a fly on the wall.
	You can be by subscribing to Scholars and Sense right now.
	Lord Black, so much to discuss.
	Your latest article in American Greatness is Joe Biden's Misery index rises.
	We're going to post it right now on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	But as an individual who in your first memoir wrote so eloquently about the flawed nature of the US judicial system, will you indulge me as I just read to you a couple of lines from a report in Fox News about the first conviction from the events of January the 6th?
	Please do.
	It's nonsense, so please read it.
	So let's look at this.
	This first conviction is of an individual named Paul Allard Hodgkins, 38 years old, of Tampa, Florida, who was convicted of a felony, the charge being obstructing an official proceeding.
	That's the charge.
	Obstructing an official proceeding.
	He has received, despite having no prior criminal record, Lord Black, eight months behind bars, and during the trial was clearly forced or advised by his counsel to make a chilling, almost Maoist self-critique about how Joe Biden, quote-unquote, is the rightful president of the United States.
	He was never accused of assaulting anyone or damaging property.
	However, he did, and I'll end here, he did take a selfie-style, quote-unquote, selfie-style photograph as he walked down the Senate well.
	Your reaction?
	Well, I want to ask a question first.
	In giving him that sentence, do they credit him with the time, the six months he's been in prison?
	Oh, that's a fabulous question.
	I do not know.
	I would dearly hope so.
	We can check right now.
	Eric, will you look up whether his time served is counted against the eight months?
	And we will know momentarily.
	But basically, I think it's an outrage.
	I accept that he's Obviously he's guilty.
	I mean, he is, to be fair.
	He's guilty of the charge.
	But the penalty for it shouldn't be eight months in prison.
	I mean, a penalty for it should be a, I don't know, a $500 fine, and since he served the time, you know, make that the rest of it.
	But, I mean, normally you'd give someone a $500 fine for that.
	At the worst, a week in prison.
	But what really disturbs me They obviously, as is their practice, spent all of this time that he's been detained trying to sweat out of him some kind of an accusation connecting the Trump Organization with what went on on January the 6th, because that's how these, frankly, for the large part of them, corrupt American prosecutors operate.
	They abuse the ability to suborn or extort false inculpatory evidence by threatening whoever is detained.
	And then when they get the evidence they want, they give them a full immunity from a perjury charge.
	So, you know, that's why you have a 98% conviction rate, 97% without a trial in federal criminal cases in the United States, which merely means it's a completely corrupt system, illustrating that Lord Acton was right when he said that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
	But, you know, on its face, I have to say the man apparently was guilty.
	He had no business walking down the aisle in the Senate.
	You know, he was trespassing.
	No, he was, and he doesn't deny it.
	But one thing that I didn't read out of the article, perhaps talks to your institutional critique and in your autobiography, the charge or the penalty for obstructing an official proceeding, Lord Black, I think this speaks to a larger problem.
	The maximum sentence for just obstructing a proceedings, like a congressional hearing, is 20 years in prison, Lord Black.
	Well, that's absurd.
	20 years in prison or a $250,000 fine.
	If you threw a bomb in and injured somebody, I would understand that, but that's just absurd.
	I mean, that's just giving the prosecutors a heavier axe to lower over the back of the neck of anyone they're targeting at that time.
	It facilitates the abuse of the plea bargain system.
	But in practice, tell me if I'm wrong in this, in practice, If it's, let us say, a municipal council meeting or something, and somebody comes into it who has a very strong opinion on something before the municipal council, and shouts and interrupts things, and finally is removed by security for disturbing the thing, that person might be subject to a fine of $100.
	Right, a fine, yes.
	A nominal fine, and a slap on the wrist.
	Well, here is one person among hundreds who were trespassed.
	I think it's fine to prosecute him, but it should be proportionate, and it should have been dealt with, it should have been over and done with by inauguration day.
	Could the fact that we've seen dozens of individuals, and Julie Kelly, also at American Greatness, has done sterling work in documenting all of this, perhaps one of the only Only reporters out there who's doing it.
	The fact that dozens of individuals have been arrested, have been tracked down by their cell phones to all parts of the United States, some of them grandmothers, arrested, put in solitary confinement for months on end.
	Could one look at that and also this eight-month sentence for an individual who hurt nobody, damaged nothing?
	Could this be put into a broader context of an attempt, at least an attempt, to criminalize being a conservative, Lord Black?
	I think you could connect it to that, yes.
	But it has this additional ingredient.
	I mean, the whole process of trying to criminalize conservatives, and especially Trump-supporting conservatives, has been carried on essentially by either outright political individuals, such as the spurious impeachment cases, or wrongfully politicized individuals abusing power at high levels, as in the intelligence agencies and the FBI.
	But what we also have is this attempt to portray what happened on January the 6th as George Will and Peggy Noonan and otherwise reputable
	intelligent commentators have described it, an event of comparable gravity and danger and criminality as the attack on Pearl Harbor and...
	And the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.
	And, of course, it has absolutely not the slightest comparability to either event.
	I mean, the one was a full-scale attack on the United States Navy, killing thousands of people and sinking five battleships by one of the world's great powers, Japan.
	An outright The declaration of war, in fact, there's no declaration.
	The declaration was when the Japanese torpedo bombers arrived overhead.
	And the second, of course, was a terrorist attack enabled by failed states, Afghanistan in particular.
	But as even the chief author Osama bin Laden said, was a massacre of innocents.
	thousands of innocent people killed for no reason anyone could put together with the attack.
	And this was a group of hooligans leading a bunch of legitimately annoyed Trump supporters who felt that the election had been rigged in a trespass and a minor act of vandalism and an act of gross disrespect to the institutions of the country.
	But it was a grieved citizens being exploited and inadvertently unknowingly giving shelter to a group of essentially almost apolitical hooligans.
	And the only person who died violently as a result of it was indeed one of the intruders about whom they've not told us anything except the name, nothing about who did it or what circumstances.
	And to compare that, it was an outrage what happened on January 6th.
	It shouldn't have happened.
	But it could have been prevented if the present complainers had been doing their jobs properly.
	I mean, the capital police chief, whom they've since fired, asked for reinforcements from the mayor and from the Speaker of the House and didn't get them.
	So they... I... Did we lose the load back?
	Oh, and apolitical hooligans doth not an insurrection make.
	We are going to continue our discussion with Lord Black.
	He is the author of A Matter of Principle, and also a president like no other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America.
	Back after these messages.
	What happened there?
	What?
	I heard music and I lost Lord Blackon's voice.
	Did you hear me now?
	Oh, yeah.
	No, no.
	You're back.
	Yeah, I think that's the best description.
	Just hooligans.
	Well, that's what they were.
	I mean, this guy dressed up as Chewbacca.
	I mean, if they just had a proper security unit, none of them would have got one step up towards the Capitol.
	But, you know, if Pelosi's Right, but don't you think there's no way that that committee is going to actually be able to focus on those responsible?
	No, it's not intended to.
	Right, but don't you think there's no way that that committee is going to actually be able to focus on the actual, those responsible?
	No, it's not intended to.
	It's just a smear job.
	And I agree with, I read somebody today said it was just the third attempt at impeachment.
	And I think that's what it is.
	But here, at least, you've got Jim Jordan and a couple of other people.
	I mean, I think McCarthy, the minority leader, appointed some good people to prevent it being taken over altogether by Liz Cheney.
	I forget the name of the ostensible chairman.
	He's just a bilious foaming at the mouth Trump eater.
	So you know what he's going to come up with.
	Right.
	He chose Jim Banks, Jim Jordan, Rodney Davis and Kelly Armstrong and Troy Nels.
	Those are the Republicans.
	Jordan and one or two of the others I know a bit about.
	I think they will certainly put the put the office.
	Oh, Adam Schiff is going to be on it.
	Jamie Raskin, of course.
	Schiff will be on with Liz Jr.
	Yep, yep, exactly.
	And Raskin as well, the key impeachment figures.
	Of course, he tried to impeach Trump.
	And isn't that that guy Kanzinger or whatever it is, the real Trump Kensinger, hang on, is mentioned.
	The resolution, I don't know, with two Republicans joining all of those.
	Kensinger voted for it, for its creation, but I don't see his name listed amongst the members of the Commission.
	Well, it's one small thing to be thankful for.
	But it is obviously going to be a complete farce, but at least I think the Expectations for it are already very curtailed.
	I mean, I think all reasonable-minded people know that it's just a partisan smear job.
	And the Democrats and their puppets in the media will try and turn it into an echo chamber.
	But as we get imperative silence from Trump and as the ineptitude and the shortcomings of the Biden administration mount every week, You get that anti-Trump coalition falling apart.
	I personally can't bear Michael Wolff.
	I think he's an awful man.
	Oh, he's such a strange individual.
	You've had what?
	Pardon me?
	Sorry, say that again?
	I've had some fierce exchanges with him, but I must say I admired what he said to Stelter the other day.
	But he's such a peculiar... I met him in the White House.
	He's such a peculiar chap.
	Twenty seconds.
	Thirteen.
	He's a jackass, I think.
	But I don't know why Trump let him into the world.
	Me neither.
	Stand by.
	15 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Oh, come in with Psaki again.
	13. 13. 13.
	You got it.
	We are in regular touch with these social media platforms.
	And those engagements typically happen through members of our senior staff, but also members of our COVID-19 team.
	Given, as Dr. Murthy conveyed, this is a big issue of misinformation, specifically on the pandemic.
	In terms of actions, Alex, that we have taken or we're working to take, I should say, from the federal government, We've increased disinformation research and tracking within the Surgeon General's office.
	We're flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation.
	That is of course the White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki talking about, well can I say the word, collusion between the White House and big tech and social media who are going to be censoring what people say and perhaps now even their SMS text messages if they are deemed to be spreading quote-unquote disinformation.
	Our guest Lord Conrad Black, formerly the head of Hollinger International, one of the biggest media companies out there, Lord Black, why is there not outrage at this?
	Well, there is outrage in those circles that know about it.
	So to the extent there isn't the level of outrage that should be there, we again lay that squarely at the door of the overwhelmingly partisan, rabid partisan national political media.
	They're determined to whitewash the regime that they helped put in office to evict the former president.
	And as part of that, they are continuing to filter the facts, the news facts, as they are clearly inducible each day.
	By simply ignoring anything that reflects poorly on the administration.
	And that, frankly, is most of the political news nowadays.
	If you look at the border, look at the inflation, look at the crime rate, it's a shambles and it's getting worse every day.
	But let me quote my former White House colleague, who's co-host of my podcast, The Battle for 1600, and he's used this phrase, the freight train of audits.
	We're seeing every day new news, new evidence of At least if not organized central fraud, just the lack of chain of custody and very strange things going on in Atlanta and elsewhere.
	If this evidence continues to snowball, Lord Black, what's to stop the White House saying that it's not just COVID disinformation, but quote-unquote disinformation about these audits that should likewise be censored?
	I think the only thing that can stop that is if you get some judicial or judicial equivalent verification of the fact that there is a real question about the validity of some of those results, as long as they can portray it as Trump partisans making mischief and propagating the big lie.
	The Trump-hating media will go with that.
	They'll stay at their posts on the ship as long as they can, but they won't go down with the ship.
	I'm taking this metaphor too far, but when the ship strikes a shoal and somebody of unquestionable impartiality And thoroughness in looking into the matter says there is a real problem here.
	Doesn't have to be more than that.
	Doesn't have to say Trump won Georgia.
	It's just there is a real problem here.
	Then I think it starts to fall apart.
	They can't ignore that.
	But look at what was required to get them to take the whole investigation of Hunter Biden seriously.
	Now, it didn't matter once the election was over and they got the result they wanted.
	Obviously it wasn't as sensitive a question, but the same people who let it pass and treated it as a ho-hum after the election organized and agitated and made public letters of complaint and so forth by supposedly knowledgeable people that it was Russian disinformation.
	And only after the fact did we discover one That it had been a grand jury subject of investigation for a year and a half, and two, most recently, that the U.S.
	attorney in that district in Delaware had deliberately assured there was no public awareness of the existence of this grand jury because he didn't want to hurt the chances of the local candidate.
	But with that yardstick in mind, that there's irrefutable evidence that something occurred and therefore they will have to cover it and it cannot be censored, could you not say the same for the Russia collusion narrative, where we have the evidence, nothing occurred, documents were forged, but that hoary tale still lives on.
	So is the system... I think that's all on John Durham.
	I mean, in my opinion, His failure to produce any report is simply a disgrace.
	I mean, if he doesn't come up with something soon, he should be disbarred.
	I mean, he promised a report.
	I'm not talking about the verdict.
	I mean, the verdict is whatever it is, and that's up to him to determine, or at least determine, and then if there are charges to be laid, to pursue it in the courts of law and in the proper manner.
	But he promised a report, an interim report.
	He hasn't produced anything.
	Nothing.
	Just, I think it was this week, I think it was Monday or perhaps at the weekend, we had Devin Nunes state that he expects actual charges to result from the Durham report.
	He seems to me to be somebody who has cleaved to the truth in the last five years.
	Does that give you hope in somebody?
	A very admirable fine man, I agree.
	If he says it, I would take it very seriously.
	Did he say that the indictments would be coming down soon?
	He said that he intimated that the report will be released imminently and it will lead to numerous indictments.
	Well, frankly, I would be surprised if he actually is for real, Durham.
	Then, obviously, he produces a report that, even if he doesn't indict anybody, he produces a report that explains what happened in a believable way after fair and thorough and impartial analysis.
	I will take back what I said, not that he would be aware that I said it anyway, but I'll commend him for that.
	And if it took this long, then I'll accept that it took this long because he was being thorough, not because he was being lazy or evasive.
	But with that said, I agree with what the former Attorney General Barr said.
	He said when one political campaign for the presidency is investigating another on the basis of false warrants delivered in their interest by the director of the FBI, among others, it merits a serious investigation.
	I mean, on anything that's public now, Comey, McCain, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, a whole bunch of them should be indicted.
	If they can put up a proper defense, then they should be acquitted.
	But on what's in the public domain now, crimes were committed there, and I believe Inspector General Horowitz effectively said that.
	Yes, he did.
	IG Horowitz's report, which should be read by all Americans, clearly indicates what occurred.
	The question is, will there be any actual consequences.
	We have been talking to Lord Conrad Black, author of A Matter of Principle, several other works, including most recently A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, and co-host of Scholars and Sense.
	I'm Sebastian Corker, your course next here on America First.
	Yeah, it's quite stunning how the Horowitz Report has kind of appeared and disappeared.
	Good.
	Well, did Nunes, obviously Nunes knows something.
	Yeah, I'll find the interview.
	I think it was on Newsmax and I'll send it to you.
	Well, look, by the way, Sebastian, if that happens, if Durham indicts, even if he doesn't indict Hillary, indicts Comey, for example, Yes, yes.
	That whole thing is going to crack open like a ripe pomegranate.
	The Trump-hating media has imposed the silence on the Trump-Russia collusion fraud.
	They won't be able to keep that one bottled up.
	I mean, they'll have to acknowledge that there may be a real problem there.
	Indeed.
	What they'll do is just wash their hands of the Clintons.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Fun and games.
	We shall see.
	That's right.
	Personally, I prefer baseball to this, but that's what you got.
	All right.
	God bless.
	Thank you, Conrad.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay.
	Title for that one.
	Where is John Durham?
	All right.
	Can you find that Nunes interview and send it to me?
	Yeah.
	It was either Fox or Newsmax.
	I thought it was Sarah Carter, wasn't it?
	I think it might have been her podcast.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Here it is.
	I found it.
	You want me to just send you the link?
	Just text it to me.
	Okay.
	And did you find whether or not that person is going to get time served?
	CBS report on the case, they simply say, eight-month prison sentence to be followed by two years of supervised release.
	Later in the article, it notes another defendant who pled guilty to a misdemeanor got six months and was credited for six months he had served.
	But it doesn't say that about this current guy.
	I'm assuming the distinction here being that this guy was sentenced for a felony.
	So, I'm presuming this is actually an 8-month sentence.
	and a two-year supervised release.
	Can I hear...
	Cut 12...
	Why don't you want our schools to teach anti-racism?
	Why don't Republicans want their kids to know the tradition of anti-racism in the United States?
	Why are Republicans trying to ban books in this country?
	Why are Republicans trying to ban speech?
	Why are they trying to fire certain professors?
	Sounds like a certain party I know.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You wanna come in with that?
	No, I'll tee it up.
	Okay.
	30 seconds.
	And then I'm gonna tee up the cut five round pull.
	Yep, got it.
	Actually, I might do it in reverse.
	Five and then twelve?
	Yeah, five and then twelve.
	Tee up.
	Oh, okay.
	15, killing the mics.
	Got it.
	This is America First.
	And here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	It got very, very fiery today on the floor of the Senate.
	I think there's some personal animus between Anthony Fauci and Senator Rand Paul, Dr. Rand Paul, because I guess the highest paid bureaucrat in America doesn't want to be asked Tough questions.
	Listen to Rand Paul and Dr. Fauci Cut Five.
	Dr. Fauci, knowing that it is a crime to lie to Congress, do you wish to retract your statement of May 11th, where you claimed that the NIH never funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan?
	Senator Paul, I have never lied before the Congress.
	Microphone.
	Your microphone.
	Senator Paul, I have never lied before the Congress, and I do not retract that statement.
	This paper that you're referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function.
	You're saying when you take an animal virus and you increase its transmissibility to humans, you're saying that's not gain-of-function?
	That is correct.
	And Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly.
	And I want to say that officially.
	You do not know what you are talking about.
	Let's read from the NIH definition of gain of function.
	This is your definition that you guys wrote.
	It says that scientific research that increases the transmissibility among animals is gain of function.
	He's playing word games.
	It's just word games.
	Did you hear what Fauci responded?
	He didn't say unequivocally.
	That's not what he said.
	He played with the definition of gain-of-function until what?
	Senator Paul read his own definition, Fauci's NIH definition of gain-of-function back to him.
	And we know the NIH funded it.
	And gain of function is very simply any research that makes a virus worse than it was before.
	Longer lasting, more transmissible.
	And that's exactly what the Wuhan lab was given your federal taxpayer dollars to do by, of course, a very delightful cut out.
	So that Fauci could deny it was the NIH.
	But did you see the anger?
	Could you tell?
	Could you hear it in his voice?
	a man who earns $413,000 a year as the highest paid federal bureaucrat, very clearly, with his tone of voice, sending a message.
	How dare you question what I do?
	How dare you, as a representative of the people, ask me, an unelected official, to be accountable for how I spend the taxpayers' money?
	An individual who, by the way, I'd love to know what age he started and with whose assistance he became the director for diseases at NIH.
	Because Fauci's been in that position for 37 years.
	If you want to know a little bit about how this individual shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine in any way shape or form, decide over any amount of money that comes from our coffers as taxpayers, just spend a couple of minutes online looking up Anthony Fauci transmission of AIDS and surfaces.
	This is an individual who back in the 1980s demonstrated to the world that he's the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.
	He's the one with the unbridled arrogance.
	Who says, you don't need a mask.
	Nobody needs a mask.
	It's pointless.
	Oh, but then you do need a mask.
	Except if you're Anthony Fauci and you're at a ball game and nobody's looking and I take my mask off or when the cameras switch off in the Senate chamber and I also take my mask off.
	At which point he doubles down and says, oh no, two masks would be better.
	It's time for you to go, Anthony Fauci.
	It's time for him to be fired.
	It's time for him, if he could be, to be impeached or otherwise removed from office.
	Because he is a liar.
	And he's an arrogant, small man who also happens to be a liar.
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	Alright, like what?
	Alright, like like what?
	Alright, like what?
	Two minutes.
	This is up.
	Alright, hang on.
	This number you sent me is Max's cell.
	Jeff?
	What's that?
	This number you sent me is Maximo's cell.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Do you want two or no?
	Yeah, sure.
	On the air?
	Oh, boy.
	Alright, T. One minute.
	What cut can we T that up with?
	Insley.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	One.
	One, alright.
	I'll T it up.
	Oh, I forgot about that guy.
	Ran for president for like five minutes I thought you said Ainsley for a moment I thought of the girl from Fox News.
	I was like, wait a minute.
	Alright.
	30 seconds. 30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I know I'm an immigrant, and maybe that's why I just don't get it, but I'm still... I haven't had anybody born in America explain to me, why toilet paper?
	Why toilet paper?
	We had a snowmageddon in D.C.
	a few years ago, and it was cool.
	I love the winter.
	I love the cold.
	I love snow.
	The snow piled up.
	When the plows came through, there was literally a small mountain about 12 feet high of snow that you had to climb over to get to the grocery store.
	Our kids loved it.
	They were little.
	It was great.
	But we got to the store, and there was no toilet paper.
	And then there was no milk.
	Is it a thing about white products?
	Is it like fridges?
	Fridges run out as well?
	I don't know.
	What is it?
	Is it like crackers?
	Saltines run out?
	It was just toilet paper and milk.
	Why?
	I'll wait.
	I'll wait.
	However, what if it's not milk and toilet paper?
	What if it's meat?
	Chicken?
	Bread?
	Then it could be.
	Did you really know That the average grocery store in the back, the stockroom, has three days of supplies.
	Three days of supplies.
	What do you think is going to happen if somebody hacks into our system and brings down, I don't know, transportation communications?
	Or the banking system?
	They took down 41% of our gasoline on the eastern seaboard just recently.
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	Let's go to Jacksonville.
	Jacksonville, Charles, welcome to America First.
	Hey, how you doing, Mike?
	Mike?
	Did you call the wrong show?
	I'm sorry, Mr. Gorka.
	I'm sorry.
	I was talking to somebody else in the car.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	I just want to say I love your show.
	It's awesome.
	But I also want to tell you...
	This whole thing with Trump was planned from the beginning.
	They knew he was going to be trouble.
	This whole thing with Trump was planned.
	Can you be a little bit more specific?
	Well, the Democrats knew he was going to be trouble because he tried to do what every American wanted.
	Put America first.
	Yeah, of course.
	Right.
	He put America first.
	He did everything for us.
	He made sure that our prices were low.
	The gas was low.
	He was trying to make himself sufficient.
	He was not regulating, not taxing.
	And see, he cut the middleman out.
	And you can't cut the middleman out because that's what the Democrats are.
	They're the middleman.
	They're the ones sucking us dry.
	They want to suck us dry, and they think they know what's best.
	But see, we know what's best.
	We live our lives.
	I don't need somebody coming to my house telling me how to sleep or what my kids need to do.
	And see, their whole philosophy is big government.
	They want to control everything.
	Your thoughts.
	Charles, you're not telling me any— If you've been listening to this show, you're not telling me anything really newsworthy.
	And by the way, I worked for the man in the White House.
	So thank you.
	I know.
	That's why I listen to you.
	But let me tell you what they're doing right now.
	In this last stimulus bill, they put in $3.2 billion to give out free Wi-Fi and tablets.
	And by doing this, They want to make everybody think they're the friends of the American people and the poor.
	But what they're doing is they're training us.
	They're taking everything that we work for and giving it to people that don't give a crap about nobody.
	They think the world owes them for being born.
	They don't want to work.
	They don't want to do anything.
	They just want to suck our country dry.
	And that's why this border is being left open, because he wants to replace—the Democrats want to replace the American people with foreigners.
	You know why?
	Because they don't complain.
	They'll just do what they're told to do, like good little dogs.
	That's what they want.
	They want good little dogs.
	That's all they want.
	I thought you called in to talk about COVID, Charles.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I did.
	The reason I called in is because the two impeachments didn't work.
	And if you watch the little show back when Axelrod was, the Axelrod from Obama was talking, he said, you know, when this virus gets here, he was saying this before the virus even got here, there's going to be a virus that comes.
	And Trump won't be able to do no campaigning, because he won't be able to get out and do it.
	Are you saying that Axelrod, Obama's chief of staff, planned the coronavirus?
	Well, it was plan D. They had plan A, that didn't work.
	They tried to impeach him a second time, that didn't work.
	So then they had to go to plan C, and that didn't work, so they went to plan D. Go on, gain a function on this virus, let it spread, blame it on some OK, so what's your evidence?
	I'm curious, Charles.
	What's your evidence that the Democrat Party created the coronavirus?
	Well, Trump's all you need is evidence.
	No, no, no, that's not how it works.
	That's not how evidence works.
	Charles, Charles, be a big boy.
	It's not how evidence works.
	What is your evidence?
	Because this is a pretty, you know, big allegation.
	What is your evidence that the Democrat Party started and planned and created coronavirus?
	I'll tell you what, this is my evidence.
	Okay, we're taking taxpayer dollars from the American people and we're sending it to a lab in China.
	Yeah, I get that.
	I get that.
	I played the audio, but what is your evidence the Democrats said we're going to use this to defeat Trump?
	I need that smoking gun.
	Okay, well, Hillary Clinton, that's enough.
	Oh, Charles, Charles, Charles, Charles, Charles.
	Please don't ring up this show and waste three million people's time by saying, evidence?
	Hillary Clinton.
	That's not how a big boy thinks, okay?
	That's not evidence.
	You can't go into a court of law and say, John Smith!
	John Smith!
	That's what, you know, murder?
	John Smith!
	That's not how it works in America.
	It's not evidence.
	Put your big boy pants on and don't waste my time again.
	Goodbye, Charles.
	Wow, I invested!
	I invested in that man!
	I don't care if you like the show!
	Act like a normal human being who believes in the rule of law.
	You can't say, my evidence?
	Hillary!
	Well, I'm gonna say, evidence for you!
	Paedophilia!
	Charles, there you go!
	Charles!
	We're conservatives!
	We don't do that crap!
	We believe in the rule of law and evidence.
	It might have been the Democrats, but that's not evidence.
	Call back when you got some.
	Thank you.
	Next, Rain Livermore, who will soothe.
	Not yet, because we don't have time.
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	But he's patient.
	He's a good guy.
	He's in the tall grass.
	He's there with his sniper scope.
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	Mic's on?
	Wax on. - Thank you.
	That was something.
	I really thought he was reasonable.
	And then he wasn't.
	Have you noticed the conspiracy theorists, they're on to something else by the time they get to you?
	Like a different topic?
	They can't even stay on the topic.
	That might be the way their brain works.
	That's what I think it is.
	I think it's a conspiracy.
	Number two.
	It was over the counter until 2019.
	Okay, we'll take it off the ray.
	Todd, where are you calling from?
	Alright, what do you want to say?
	One minute.
	One minute.
	Alright, hang on.
	20 seconds. 20
	seconds.
	20 seconds. 20 seconds.
	I need somebody to calm me down.
	Let's go to an old buddy in California.
	Ray in Livermore.
	Are you there?
	I don't want to come on after that guy.
	Uh-uh.
	Was I unfair to him?
	No, no, Dr. G, you step into the boxing ring, you gotta be ready to box.
	I tried to give him a chance, and it was like, please, please, give me some evidence, think like a grown-up.
	Ray, what brings you to my show?
	Well, I called about January 6th and your discussion with Lord Black.
	Yes.
	I can kind of tie it a little bit to what the previous fellow was saying, in that, I don't think the Democrats really can think things through this much to plan a coronavirus.
	They're just too dumb to do stuff like that.
	Hang on, stop.
	This is really important.
	They are evil, they are bad, but they're also massively incompetent.
	These things we must never forget, Ray.
	But they are smart enough to know not to let a crisis go to waste and let you do things you normally can't do.
	And so they can grab something like that and then run with it and exploit it.
	Right.
	So, back to January 6th, they need to hang on to this thing and try to push it through another election cycle.
	Because they've got nothing else, Ray.
	They've got nothing.
	They've got dumb ideas.
	In fact, their ideas are actually destructive.
	Anything they put their fingers on, whether it's freedom, family, the economy, they destroy it.
	They wreck it for everybody.
	So they can't sell their ideas.
	They've got to keep this January 6th thing alive through the next election cycle.
	And if they could, Dr. G, they're going to try to push it four years out and remind us about January 6th four years from now.
	This is my prediction.
	I think you're right.
	I see them doing it already.
	This fellow, remind me, what was he charged with?
	The fellow who got eight months.
	Obstructing an official proceedings.
	Okay, so on the news today, I was told twice that there was an insurrection on January 6th.
	Nobody's been charged with that.
	So how can you have How can you have an insurrection with no insurrectionists, if there hasn't been a single charge?
	I don't know what the charge would be for insurrection.
	But also, I'm just wondering, Ray, how many times do you think in Portland, in Seattle, in Baltimore, in New York, in the last year, was an official proceedings obstructed?
	Or how about this?
	If this was the worst thing since the Civil War and 9-11, how about going to a baseball field and mowing down 17 people with a rifle?
	Is it worse than that?
	Is that something that should be put into the mix here?
	For those who don't know what Ray's referring to, James Hodgkinson, baseball field, not far from this studio, who took an SKS rifle and a handgun and a hit list of Republicans to murder, one of whom he almost did, Steve Scalise.
	It's funny how that story is...
	Somehow apolitical, despite the fact that he was actually Bernie Sanders' campaign volunteer.
	Ray, bringing me back down to earth a little bit more elegantly than Jeff Bezos.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Nikki, in Hawaii, how cool.
	John and Judy, don't go anywhere.
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	Thank you.
	Mic's on.
	Bezos isn't on Twitter, right?
	Let me check that.
	I don't think so, but... Oh, hang on.
	Yeah, he is.
	At Jeff Bezos.
	Yeah, but is it verified?
	How many followers?
	Yeah, verified.
	2.5 million followers.
	Wow.
	He only follows one person.
	Mackenzie Scott.
	Who's Mackenzie Scott?
	I think that's his ex.
	He hasn't posted anything since February 2020, so that might be a reason why.
	That's his ex.
	Yeah, that is his ex.
	Yep, so he's inactive, but he is on Twitter.
	She tweet out congratulations today.
	Alright, standing by.
	I bet he can't be tagged though, can he?
	Our attorneys generals, whether they're in New York or in Georgia, they've got to go after him about how he's cheated on his taxes, how his family has taken advantage of having a nonprofit that they use like it was their own money, on and on and on.
	One way or the other, we've got to stop Trump and his allies.
	It's more than undermining our democracy.
	They're dangerous and they're out to do harm.
	And so we're in a bad time.
	No, not the sound, the music.
	The music.
	The point of that link, that cut, is again, Maxine Waters saying we must do everything possible to stop Donald Trump.
	Shouldn't the future of the presidency be a function of, oh I don't know, something crazy like the will of the American people And not you unleashing attorneys, General Maxine Waters.
	I think we have to save that cut.
	That's a real peek behind the curtains of who the Democrats really are.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios just outside.
	The insalubrious, the fetid swamp that is Washington DC.
	Let's listen to somebody who actually cares about America, who has perhaps a reaction to the fact that a man who didn't hurt anybody, didn't break anything, didn't partake in an insurrection, but was charged with obstructing an official proceedings and got nine months in prison for that quote-unquote felony.
	Well, Margie Taylor Greene has something to say about that.
	MTG, cut eight.
	One of the things I did last week in California is I toured the border, and I also got to see one of the detention facilities that ICE and our U.S.
	Marshals use.
	And I can tell you for a fact, illegals that break our laws, entering our country and also have broken laws and are waiting their court dates, they are treated far better than these January 6th defendants, especially those that are being held in the deplorable jail right here in Washington, D.C.
	That is the sad reality.
	Illegal aliens who are given, given, not just sustenance, not just sucker, But also plane tickets to live in America as illegal aliens are treated better than those who are still in solitary confinement because of some, what, hooliganism on January the 6th?
	It's very hard to have an insurrection without any weapons.
	And the only weapon that was used was by Officer Bird.
	We now know his name, who killed Ashley Babbitt, 14-year veteran of the Air Force, an unarmed woman.
	We're going Going to have MTG in studio later this week.
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	Let's go to those who have been waiting so very, very patiently in Hawaii.
	Line two.
	Nikki, welcome to America First.
	Hi, Vicki.
	Vicki.
	Yes, hi.
	I'm going to have to clear out Jeff's ears.
	Hi, Vicki.
	Hi, this is my first time to call.
	Welcome!
	And forgive me if I'm a little bit nervous.
	Don't be nervous.
	It's only three million people listening and thousands more watching.
	To be honest, I never really paid attention to the real details of politics until a certain somebody in 2008.
	And it just made the hair on my arms just stand up.
	What made Obama get you to pay attention?
	What was it?
	Give me the one thing that triggered you, Vicky.
	Just the intuition of evilness.
	Oh, I like that.
	The intuition of evilness.
	That's a fabulous phrase.
	OK, what made you call us today, Vicky?
	Yeah, well, I was just I know on your side don't want to be like the person who upset you a couple of calls ago.
	Don't be that person.
	Don't be that person, Vicky.
	Well, well, well, you know, for instance, I'm going back to the beginning of 2020 regarding COVID.
	And the shutdown from, you know, from Wuhan, not allowing people in, and just the reaction of how the Democrats behaved in Pelosi, for instance, you know, in Chinatown, begging people to take the subways in New York, blah, blah, blah.
	Anytime Trump did anything, for instance, the State of the Union was a total, like, nobody clapped.
	Everybody was boo-ha-ha-ha-ing.
	You know, COVID's nothing, and you were kind of stating that you think the Democrats are that smart, but whether it be an evil entity of a large scale prior to this, but for instance, hydroxychloroquine, I don't talk about that a lot, but they were on the shelf literally as over-the-counter drugs in many countries, and suddenly they were taken off.
	Hang on, hang on, that's fascinating.
	So where were they taken off the shelves?
	I believe, well, Mexico, France, and this was all, like, for instance, November of 2019.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	You're saying before the coronavirus?
	Well, yeah, well, that's when they said that there was people getting sick in Wuhan, correct?
	So, no, they've retroactively identified the first person to be diagnosed as in December, December prior to it arriving here in America, so in China.
	So are you saying that before COVID was identified, hydroxy was being taken off the shelves?
	Yes.
	What's your source for that?
	I honestly, I do check my sources.
	I honestly, I apologize.
	I can't verbatim No, no, no, no.
	Don't do it again.
	You're going into Charles territory.
	Don't do this to me.
	You can't make accusations like that without backing it up because then people can say, you know, the moon shot never happened and, you know, the moon is made of cheese.
	I mean, if you don't have a source, don't do it, okay?
	Now, I do know as a fact that in many countries, especially in Africa, hydroxy is an over-the-counter non-prescription drug.
	That's why Africa has had such a low rate of COVID infection because they've been using it for malaria since the 1960s but but if you're if you're positing some nefarious conspiracy you gotta back it up.
	Okay I apologize for that but I do I do agree with yes.
	That's a real phone that's a real phone with a bell I hear in the background I love it.
	All right anything else Nikki?
	Uh, no, I just think that I just want to make comments that there's big powers to be, the Great Reset, and people should be paying very close attention to our country.
	So do you believe in some global conspiracy to take over everything?
	Well, with the UN and Obama, Trump always got backed down.
	Why are we paying X amount?
	You're starting to lose me, Nikki.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, you're starting to lose me.
	You know, Occam's razor, take the simplest answer, is usually the best.
	Thank you for calling, though.
	Let's go to John, Columbus, Ohio, line three.
	I'm so excited.
	We've got Aaron, we've got Judy.
	Don't go anywhere.
	John, welcome to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, thank you for taking my call.
	Sure!
	In the last couple days on a morning show on my way to work, a supposedly conservative host has been positing the reason that Donald Trump lost in 20 was because of bad polling.
	What does that mean, bad polling?
	I guess inaccurate polling, that the numbers were skewed in the favor of Biden.
	And I'm yelling, when's the last time we had good polling?
	I mean, dates back as far as polling has gone.
	Pretty much.
	But I'm wondering, and And he's also saying he said himself, the host said that there wasn't enough vote fraud to change even one state, let alone four.
	And I'm yelling at the radio.
	Well, how do you know nobody's investigated it?
	Bingo.
	So I'm trying to get your opinion.
	My opinion on it is this is a smokescreen.
	This is cover for the Democrats.
	Because now that we've got these audits moving forward and they're starting to turn stuff over at the glacial pace that they're doing, but now the Democrats are saying, oh, it wasn't cheating, it was polling.
	It was the polling that did it.
	The polling is pretty irrelevant, although you can suppress voting in the last days before an election by making it seem as if your side shouldn't bother to go and vote because there's such a large margin.
	Of advantage for the other side.
	So polling is garbage.
	It was in 16.
	It was last year.
	Now, we know why the election occurred the way it occurred because of COVID and because of the exploitation of COVID and because of the mailing out of 80 million mail-out ballots.
	That's why.
	And because of massive fraud in the four battleground states where vote counting stopped for some mystical reason at 10 p.m.
	The lead of the president was drastically reversed a few hours later when vote counting began again.
	So, you know, the last piece of evidence, the only evidence I need is there's no way that a senile, decrepit, old machine politician of 47 years got more votes than the first black president.
	That's all the empirical evidence you need.
	But you're right, my friend John.
	The freight train of audits has left the station.
	More of your cause.
	Aaron, Judy, stay where you are.
	All right.
	All right.
	Three and a half minutes.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
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	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to our good buddy Aaron in Maryland, line one.
	Hey, Dr. G. I just want to quickly tie into some of the last half an hour's worth of discussion.
	Yes.
	And there are no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences.
	And the reason I say that is obviously that the apparatchik that is the Deep State, the State Department, the
	Now that we're finding out the Benedict Arnold of Chairman Milley, as we'll call him Chairman, and his underlings of the Alexander, don't call me Mr. Vindeman, they still exist inside that bureaucratic apparatchik and have the ability to, if not outright, do untoward deeds.
	They fail to realize that the RISC assessment, and this is just somebody that obviously is an accountant and finance guy for small businesses, takes into account that all of life is about contingency planning, at least in my mind.
	And at best, they have failed to put in safeguards for these instances.
	Or at worst, they have used them, like Norm Eisen, to undermine stable governments For whatever their legitimate or illegitimate purposes might be.
	And unfortunately, until we get them gone and turn over that bureaucratic nightmare that is the Leviathan of D.C., we'll continue to see this for, gosh, I hope not too long, but probably longer than we should.
	Yeah, I mean, this was the conclusion of the segment on my TV show on Sunday on Newsmax with Joe DiGenova.
	I posited what Chris Farrell from Judicial Watch had told me on this radio show that somebody has to come in, for example, the DOJ, Well, and of course he's a good study.
	He learns from his failures.
	by brick, send in the U.S. Marshals and rebuild it without the corrupt deep staters.
	And, you know, Joe, who's been there, seen it, done it, former special counsel, he totally agreed with me.
	So that's why I want to see Donald Trump back in the White House, because we need that berserker back in D.C. breaking China, Aaron.
	Well, and of course, he's a good study.
	He learns from his failures.
	Yes.
	Hopefully he will play General Sherman in Washington, as opposed to letting the Republican Inc., and Conservative Inc.
	from the federal society.
	We're going to talk about exactly this because Jenna Ellis is on a war path.
	She left the Republican Party last week.
	She's going to be with us tomorrow.
	We're going to talk about, you know, how big a threat is the institutional GOP.
	I can heartily concur.
	Thank you, Aaron.
	God bless you.
	Great analysis.
	One cut before we go to Judy that I have meant to play ever since Jeff said I have to play it is Washington's governor.
	You know this chap, Jay Inslee.
	I think it might be the cut of the day.
	Video cut one.
	Play cut.
	The problem with that is you're making a risk for everybody around you when you don't get vaccinated.
	You're a risk for your spouse, you're a risk for your kids, your grandkids, your parents, your co-workers, because you are a bioreactor facility generating virus and spreading it around, including to kids who can't get vaccinated.
	I want to reiterate that.
	If you're a 50-year-old man who, you know, voted for Donald Trump and didn't think COVID was a problem and you don't get vaccinated right now, you're arresting every kid in your city.
	How?
	How do you arrest them?
	We had that amazing video cut from Dr. Marc Macri last week.
	And I used it in my speech in Turning Point USA.
	Here's the truth, you fear-mongering pile of excrement, Janesley.
	The fatality rate for children in America from the coronavirus isn't 15%.
	It isn't 5%.
	It isn't 1%.
	It isn't 5%. It isn't 1%.
	It's not 0.5%.
	You utter disgrace. You contemptible individual. visual.
	The fatality rate for children in America from the coronavirus, from China, from Wuhan, is 0.05%.
	So for you to dare to say that a Trump voter, because hey, you have to politicize it, right?
	Who isn't vaccinated, is endangering all the children in his city, is a contemptible big lie.
	Yes, a big lie.
	And you should be utterly ashamed of yourself.
	But you're not.
	Because you're not a conservative.
	You're not even a liberal.
	You're a commie.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Judy, waiting very patiently in Brooklyn.
	Welcome.
	Line 4.
	Hey, I want to tell you something.
	I have a new hobby.
	I am working very hard.
	I've been very inspired by Circlebacklady, sock me, okay?
	I am painting away!
	And I'm calling my work con artwork.
	And guess what?
	I'm signing every piece of artwork that I'm doing by con artist Hunter Biden, son of, quote unquote, the big man.
	And I'm going to give it less than $500,000.
	How's that?
	I hope it's better than the garbage that he paints.
	Well, listen, if he's a painter, I definitely can paint.
	I'm going to paint the Chinese flag.
	First painting is going to be the Chinese flag, you know?
	Hello, are you there?
	Dr. Gurka.
	I'm here.
	Dr. Gurka?
	Yes.
	Oh, good, because I hear something.
	Listen, I want to tell you something.
	You were a little harsh with Charles.
	Why?
	I've had it!
	Don't call my show with conspiracy theories and no evidence!
	Don't!
	He was very nice.
	He was really on target.
	I don't care.
	I don't care.
	At the end of the line, he doesn't back up his crazy idea.
	I'm sorry.
	That's what you have to say.
	So that's what you have to say.
	I'm sorry.
	Judy, Judy, Judy, Judy.
	No, no, no, no.
	My turn.
	My turn.
	How many callers do I get in a week?
	Dozens.
	How many of them do I treat like Chuck?
	Judy?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	You don't get to talk back to me.
	How many?
	One?
	I think it's like one maybe every two weeks.
	I think I'm allowed to do that.
	Don't you?
	But you're such a nice man.
	No I'm not.
	I am not a nice man.
	I deny that.
	I resent that remark.
	But thank you, Judy.
	We love you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	We're going to talk to an amazing man.
	He kind of stole the show at the RNC Congress last year.
	He knows what Cuba's really about because he escaped it.
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	If you take to the sea, you will not come to the United States.
	The time is never right to attempt migration by sea.
	To those who risk their lives doing so, this risk is not worth taking.
	Again, I repeat, do not risk your life attempting to enter the United States illegally.
	You will not come to the United States.
	That is, of course, Alejandro Mayorkas, the Secretary of Homeland Security, with a message for those suffering in Cuba despite the fact that 6,000 illegal aliens are crossing our southerly land border every single day.
	Don't you dare come to America if you're trying to escape Communist Cuba, which is strange because, of course, that man arrived here as a refugee from Cuba himself as a child.
	Let's ask somebody who I know has an opinion on that and perhaps can explain it to us.
	He found a way into our hearts during the RNC convention.
	He also escaped Cuba.
	His name is Maximo Alvarez and he is the founder of Sunshine Gasoline.
	Mr. Alvarez, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Mr. Gorka.
	It's a pleasure being here.
	So I want to share with our listeners who might have missed the earlier interview your amazing life story, but we'll do that later.
	First, I just want to ask you as a person who clearly dearly loves this country, who knows what life in Cuba is really like, what was your reaction as a human being when you heard those words from Alejandro Mayorkas telling Cubans, don't you dare come to America?
	It really hurts because she goes from Cuba.
	She escaped what all these people are trying to escape right now.
	She was allowed to come to a free country.
	And you know, the government today, and this is what is so hypocritical, Mr. Gorka, the government is supposed to protect and defend the country and our citizens.
	And look what they're doing.
	Look what they're doing since they took power.
	They're shrinking the military.
	They're trying to defund the police.
	And they have open borders.
	Open borders, but not for the Cubans.
	You know why?
	Because Cubans know what communism is like.
	Yes, they don't want them here, because they're not going to become, they're punks, they're not going to become Democrats, because they will never again become, or be a part, or be useful idiots like happened to many of us, who believe the lies.
	Communists people who tell you what you want to hear.
	They tell you that they're going to give you free health care, they're going to give you free education, and actually what they're going to do is take away your freedom because all they care is about power.
	So it's okay to open the borders, to receive all these people who come from all over the place and we don't even know who they are.
	But God forbid we accept those people who know who they are.
	They understand what communism is like.
	Yeah, that's a fabulous, that's a fabulous summary.
	Open borders except to those who understand communism and would vote against it.
	In the last minute and a half we have in this segment, Mr. Alvarez, I have to ask you your response to the administration's I thank God I don't have any relatives left there.
	Thank God.
	But let me tell you what is inspiring.
	It's very inspiring that they're flying the American flag.
	Why?
	and the lack of vaccines.
	You must have relatives there.
	What's the truth?
	Thank God I don't have any relatives left there.
	Thank God.
	But let me tell you what is inspiring.
	It's very inspiring that they're flying the American flag.
	Why?
	Because they know this is the last opportunity they have.
	This is the only country that will offer the freedom that they're looking for.
	This is the only country that offers the freedom that they have been deprived for the last 62 years.
	Just think that these people have been under the same government, the same dictatorship, the same oppression for 62 years, that you have no right to vote them out like they do in the United States.
	That they have no right to protest because they kill them like animals.
	And by the way, between you and I, Mr. Gorka, I understand communism because I have it in my blood.
	God only knows.
	The Cuban government is very happy right now because they can clearly identify who is their opponent.
	Those people are probably dead by now.
	And they'll soon get rid of the other people.
	So they are very happy.
	They will have a lot less people to feed.
	They have a lot less people to take care.
	And they have a lot less people who can fight them.
	And how can they fight when they have no weapons?
	And all these demonstrations that we're doing is just to get a message.
	And I hope our children, I hope our academia, I hope our media understands what is happening in Cuba.
	And they use it as a lesson.
	Those people are flying our flag.
	Well, the people here who enjoy the freedom that all the country has, some are burning our flags.
	Yeah, it's an incredibly powerful message, especially your observation, which could sadly be correct, that the people on the streets waving our flag realize this may be their very last chance.
	We're talking to Maxime Alvarez, the founder of Sunshine Gasoline.
	I'm going to share with you his amazing story next here on America First.
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	My family has fled totalitarianism and communism more than once.
	First my dad from Spain, then from Cuba.
	But my family's don't run away.
	By the grace of God, I live the American dream.
	The greatest blessing I ever had, my dad, Only had a sixth grade education, told me.
	Don't lose this place.
	You'll never be as good as me.
	Don't leave this place.
	You'll never be as lucky as me.
	If you haven't seen it, we're going to post the whole speech from our guest Maximo Alvarez from the RNC Convention.
	Look, they were incredible speakers.
	David Dawn's widow.
	But amongst them, Mr. Alvarez was one of the most heart-wrenchingly patriotic in everybody.
	If you missed it, or if you want some spirit again, you want renewed strength, you've got to watch it.
	Now he's with us here on America First, talking to millions of our listeners and viewers across the nation.
	Let me, in a nutshell, let me just share with our viewers and listeners, Mr. Alvarez, your story.
	So you arrive here, 1961, age of 13, as part of the Peter Pan refugee program.
	You start working after graduation in the oil industry for Citgo.
	You end up at Mobil Oil.
	And then, after a diversion into the citrus industry, you buy four gas stations that aren't well-performing.
	You turn it into Sunshine Gasoline, and you end up, it's incredible, for this handful of stations, you end up with more than 300 locations supplying another 250, including Chevron, BP, Shell, Citgo, Exxon, and this is Sunshine Gasoline.
	And I've just got to ask you, Mr. Alvarez, as a fellow immigrant, could you do that in any other country as a penniless refugee?
	Not only I couldn't do it in any other country, we started a business from the trunk of my car, literally.
	This is the only place in the world that you can do that.
	And it's simply because not only you are free to do so, but you have the opportunity.
	This is the most generous country in the world.
	And I've said this before, and you can say it too, and so is everybody who's ever came over to this country for freedom.
	If we gave everything that we have earned today, It would only be 1% of what was given to us when we first came here.
	A young kid, 13 years old, with the clothes that he had on his back, didn't even speak the language.
	And when they say the American Dream, I do get emotional because it is so sad that we're in jeopardy, that our next generation is going to be the first generation who is not better than the previous one.
	This is what is so great about this country, that the existing generation has always been better than the one before.
	And simply because the wrong people have taken over the government.
	This is in jeopardy.
	May God bless America.
	And we may continue the tradition and remember our leaders like Ronald Reagan.
	Freedom is only a generation away from extinction.
	Absolutely.
	What is your message to those young Americans who haven't lived under communism, didn't escape communism, and who think that we need socialism in America?
	First of all, understand that what they're preaching is propaganda full of lies.
	Please understand that there's nothing free in the world.
	There's nothing free in the world.
	And the beautiful thing about this country is that they allow us to work with our effort.
	We can always do better.
	And the real wealth of our country is to know at the end of our lives that we have made this place a little bit better, that we have contributed.
	It is not How much money we have accumulated or how many assets we have is how we have provided other people with the capacity to succeed just like we succeeded.
	This is the greatest country in the world.
	So I hope that people see what is happening to their neighbors.
	90 miles from here, Cuban people after 62 years of oppression waving the American flag That I don't know how they even got it, because if you are seen with the American flag in Cuba, you could lose your life.
	This is what is so amazing.
	And then people from Black Lives Matter and Ocasio saying that the reason that the Cubans are suffering is because of embargo.
	My God, the embargo started in 1961.
	The embargo, as people have said before, does not prevent you from selling the fish that you fish at night.
	The embargo doesn't prevent you from starting a business.
	The embargo doesn't prevent you from expressing your opinion.
	That is communism.
	That is people who are totalitarian, who only care about power, who will never, ever, ever leave unless you get them out.
	You cannot vote them out.
	62 years.
	And you cannot understand what that means.
	Imagine somebody that you really hate.
	And you can live with them under their oppression for the last 62 years?
	Can you talk about slavery?
	Yes, it is a modern form of slavery.
	And I never had it put in this terms.
	And it's so powerful to talk to somebody...
	This is what the conservative movement rarely understands, that it's the story of those who have suffered under other systems that is the most powerful.
	It's not an embargo that stops you opening a business.
	It's not an embargo that gets you kicked out of college if you say the wrong thing.
	It's not an embargo that gets you arrested, imprisoned and potentially executed if you resist the dictatorship.
	That is the essence of the dictatorship.
	And we owe you so very, very much for telling the truth to those here who are so ignorant and, as you said, are useful idiots.
	He is the founder, the incredibly successful founder, a true patriot and immigrant like myself to the United States.
	His name is Maximo Alvarez, president of Sunshine Gasoline.
	God bless you for what you do, Mr. Alvarez.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First on the Salem Radio Network, coming to you from just outside the insalubrious fetid swamp that is Washington DC.
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	Biden saying inflation?
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	Okay, let's talk about The new administration, not just the politicians in power, but the officials!
	The new Surgeon General, Vivek Murthy.
	Well, he's not satisfied.
	We need more censorship in America.
	Cut!
	Three!
	Play cut!
	And what I've effectively said is when we see steps that are good, that are being taken, we should acknowledge those.
	And there have been some positive steps taken by these technology companies.
	Some of them have worked to try to up-promote accurate sources like the CDC and other medical sources.
	Others have tried to reduce the prevalence of false sources in search results.
	But what I've also said to them, publicly and privately, is that it's not enough.
	That we are still seeing a proliferation of misinformation online.
	And we know that health misinformation harms people's health.
	It costs them their lives.
	So who's going to decide, Mr. Vivek Murthy?
	Are you going to decide?
	Are we going to have an office of the censor?
	Used to be a red pencil back in World War II.
	Are you just going to delete people?
	Are you going to decide?
	Not while patriots are breathing in this country.
	Because you don't have the right.
	It's called the First Amendment.
	It's called the Bill of Rights.
	It's called the US Constitution.
	We are in a culture war for the soul of this nation.
	That's a good name for a book.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
	Never give in.
	And now, more than ever, stay frosty.

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