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I'm going to shock our three million listeners, our viewers on Rumble, and even my team. - No.
Greetings, friends.
Here is the news on America First.
My name is Sebastian Gorka.
I am white, and I am a heterosexual!
Do I get any points?
Or do I have to be a gay football player?
Yes, indeed, we'll get to that later.
We're having far too much fun already.
Why?
Because my favorite podcaster in the known multiverse, all alternative galaxies included, he's not just on the phone line, he's in studio.
The one, the only, Daily Wire's Andrew Klavan with no E's.
Drew, welcome to America First.
Thank you.
It is a joy to be here, I have to say.
It's finally, finally!
You didn't know I actually had physical, corporeal reality.
You have actually manifested here in studio.
Okay, we're gonna have so much fun.
First things first, I got to share with you, I'm sure you listened to the show yesterday, but I just want to remind you what we played yesterday.
Let's Let's share with Andrew Clavin a slew of videos.
Let's just start with one video.
Let's go to Cut 9, an explication of today's America from that wonderful purveyor of philosophy known as TikTok.
Oh, actually, I'm genderfluid.
Oh, okay.
Wait, what does genderfluid mean again?
Genderfluid means my gender changes depending on the day or week, or even depending on the hour.
It also means the pronouns I'm comfortable with can change, too.
Oh, so how do I know what pronouns to use for you and other genderfluid people?
Um, we all express them differently, but personally I express them through color-coded bracelets.
Pink means she-her, yellow means they-them, and blue means he-him.
And if I'm comfortable with less than one pronoun, I will combine them.
Oh, okay, so today's a she-they day?
You got it.
Okay, um, I'll keep that in mind.
Andrew, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, that would have been a comedy skit.
In fact, in the Life of Brian by Monty Python, that was a skit!
It was a very good skit.
What do you mean you want to have babies?
You don't have a womb.
It was comedy.
What happened?
Well, that's a good question.
I mean, all comedy is now prophecy, right?
Monty Python is just the future.
And listen, to be fair, I mean, I have a similar, you know, I have a different shoe size every day.
Really?
Yes, and a lot of people don't know whether to call me flatfoot or twinkle toes.
Do you signal it with a bracelet?
Exactly, with a little braid.
Do that little piece of hair in the back.
You know, I'll braid it, possibly.
Yeah, this is induced psychosis.
It is induced psychosis.
And, you know, you can drive people crazy.
I don't think that all of these people would be this crazy if they were in a disciplined, ordered society that said, you know, there is a range of opinions you can have about the truth, but the truth remains the truth.
And that's the place we lost We lost our common sense.
You know, it is true that people see things differently.
It is true that there is a range of moral approaches to any given situation.
But it's not true that there's an infinite range.
And it's not true that reality, what we are doing is we're reacting to reality.
We're reacting to God's creation.
As individual human beings, that's a beautiful thing.
But once you start to say that that creation is so fluid that it doesn't exist, you've actually gone insane.
And so these are things that people are taught.
She wasn't born like that.
No.
She hasn't got some genetic difficulty where she can't speak sense.
She's been taught that her crazies, and even the structure of what she's doing is the kind of thing that goes on in your head when you're in the shower.
She's asking herself questions and answering the questions.
Not out loud.
You don't do that.
Exactly.
And if you do, you don't do it on video.
And then post it.
Exactly.
But you mentioned the word truth.
So this isn't just a psychopathy.
This isn't just a collective dynamic.
And it's very intriguing, guys, if you haven't looked into this.
The quote-unquote transitioning, the gender transitioning is almost 90% young girls to quote-unquote males.
There's something very interesting.
It's not boys to women, quote-unquote.
It is pubescent girls in a group dynamic that are doing it collectively.
We'll put that aside for a second.
But it's not just psychopathy or a group dynamic.
This denial of the objective truth is a deliberate Yes, because it is based on the fact that the philosophy that the left has, let's call it Marxism as a general term, never works.
And so the fact that it never works, they have to tell you that you're not seeing what you're seeing.
And this happened very early on.
I think it's Engel who first came up with the idea of false consciousness.
The idea that, hey, you know, if you go to work and that gives you dignity, and you make enough money to have a little house and a yard, and you think, hey, this is great, this is the good life, this is better than the lives of 99.9% of the people who have ever lived, right?
The lives we live in America, even among the poor, are still better than the lives most people have ever lived.
That's a false consciousness.
You just don't understand that you're oppressed.
And that false consciousness idea has now been extended through postmodern philosophy, the French philosophy that basically says, no, everything is an illusion created by the powerful to fool the powerless into thinking that they're happy.
And that's how we get to this state.
This is how Black Lives Matter actually has a tenet of its belief system or propaganda, that successful black Americans are still oppressed because they're inside a white structure.
It doesn't matter if you drive a Lamborghini as a black man, you're still in an oppressed superstructure.
Exactly, and it's why people are told, you know, a lot of people think you were saying that a lot of this transition goes on among young women, and a lot of people think there's a war on men, that men and masculinity are being degraded, but I think it's different.
I think that there's actually a war on femininity.
They want women to be men, but because men are better men than women are, they then degrade men.
Degrading men is a way of getting rid of the feminine.
And the reason they want to get rid of the feminine is it's against everything they believe in.
It's more spiritual.
It's more human being connected.
It's less involved in power structures.
I mean, we're dopes.
I mean, guys are just, you know, but women are important.
Women are important.
Women are actually like the begetters of humanity, not just physically, but they now know that some of the instincts that people had in the old days, that this connection, this, you know, the famous picture of the Virgin Mary with a baby, this connection that a mother and baby have, is where babies learn to be human.
There's actual interchange between neurons in a mother's and a baby's idea.
And all of those things are anathema to the left, because the left is materialist.
The left is telling you that the only thing that matters about your life is how much money you have, whether you have as much money as the guy next to you, whether you are as powerful as he is.
How much sex you're having?
How much sex you're having, and what kind, and that you can have any kind of sex, even if it's degrading to you and the person you're having it with.
All of those things just strip all the values, all the spiritual values out of life.
and leave us with this kind of, we're kind of like meat puppets with chemistry sets inside, and we can be solved, all our problems can be solved with more chemistry.
I'm completely free associating here, but that image of the mother and the child, we know that the keying off the mother's face is essential to human development at the beginning.
How does masks fit into this?
Because I am still enraged, enraged that I see parents leading their kids, their toddlers to the playground, and the child has a mask on.
The damage they're doing.
they're doing.
Well, it's so inherent in human interaction to look in a person's face, and the reason that people like me have serious, serious questions about the Muslim practice of veiling women entirely is because you strip them of your humanity.
Well, it's so inherent in human interaction to look in a person's face.
And the reason that, you know, people like me have serious, serious questions about the Muslim practice of veiling women entirely is because you strip them of your humanity.
All she is now is kind of a thing, a woman thing, whose entire reality is based on your reaction to it.
Whereas if you're looking at a face, it's very hard to look a man in the face and hate him for the color of his skin.
It's hard to look a man or woman in the face and degrade them.
You know, there are people who can do it.
There are people who practice and work at it.
But for most of us, when you look at a person's face, you see yourself, you see some, you see the image of God, really.
Well, and you see the eyes speak of a soul.
I mean, you see, this is not an animal.
This has a soul.
Yes, and we read each other's faces.
No computer can do what we do with other people's faces.
And they love taking that away, because once we're just dealing with power structures and material, then we can treat each other like garbage and our freedom is up for sale.
All right, we're going to continue this discussion for the next 17 hours.
Are you ready, guys?
We're going to have some fun.
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He is the man behind the Andrew Klavan podcast with The Daily Wire, author of Another Kingdom and so much more.
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I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
The mics are on.
Mics are live on Rumble.
I don't think I won't flap it.
But hearing you, your voice through here is just, you've got it as well.
I don't know if your dad had the similar voice that you do.
I have three brothers and a son and we all have the exact same voice.
When we call up on the phone, even if I don't know who I'm talking to.
It's so cool.
It is funny.
There's no difference, you know.
What businesses are your brothers in?
Oh, they're all in some part of the arts.
Oh really?
Yeah, every one of them.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then my father used to, my father was a master of voices.
Impersonations?
No, he didn't do impersonations.
Or modulation?
Yeah, he did accents.
He could literally, and I saw him do this once, but I knew he could do it.
He could literally talk fake Italian to an Italian and it would be about 60 seconds before the guy would go like, wait a minute.
The only person I've ever heard who was anywhere near as good as him is that guy who used to do Apu on The Simpsons.
He used to?
Yes, now he used to.
But he had that same gift and he used to call home when we were kids and do funny voices.
You wouldn't know it was him.
My best friend who's stuck in England, he does all my liners.
He does the impersonations of Peter Sellers and stuff.
You'll hear some of them.
He's just amazing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This TikTok stuff is great.
Oh my gosh, I found four videos yesterday, sent them to Jeff, and it's like, one after another, just insanity.
Insanity.
So how far drive, this is like no drive for you?
No, 12 minutes.
Oh, that's great.
It's a hard commute, hard commute.
Go ahead.
Is America First a network?
No, it's my title for my show.
Oh, it's your title.
Yeah, it's Salem.
So you're in Salem.
But I hate everybody saying, you know, the Hannity show, the whatever show.
I wanted something, you know, that wasn't just me.
Right.
But was a brand.
So I said America First.
Smart.
That is smart.
And is Salem in this building?
Salem News is down here at the end.
They're the news guys, the news readers.
And then the other side of the building is Town Hall because we bought townhall.com.
That's ours.
So the Town Hall guys are there.
And then we own PJ Media, but they're in another building, they're not here.
And then the headquarters are in California and Texas for Salem Corporate.
I was very close, because of you, I was very close to going over to Salem.
Daily Wire just bought me, basically.
I was like... No, I was within an ace.
We really had it out.
We had a long, long negotiation.
Yeah, well at least, you know, I get a commission, right?
Exactly.
One minute.
So what is this, when you say the mic is on, where are we?
Rumble.
If you look behind, we're video streaming the whole radio show, and then the people who are watching on Rumble get to see through the breaks, and they love the behind the scenes.
All 1,200 watching right now.
Then I should add that I do love The Daily Warren.
But sometimes.
Well, they've been good to you.
30 seconds.
Standing by.
All right, let's, uh, let's come in with... Cut six.
And you'll need to watch that on the screen behind you.
The offline one?
You're gonna have to kind of describe what's going on.
You say come in.
You said come in with it, yeah.
Oh, my God!
What the fuck?
I played that footage, which I will describe for our radio listeners.
It's from Oakland.
Somebody was shot.
An ambulance was sent to recover the shot individual, and the people around the ambulance, which are stuck there, were twerking, climbing on the roof, just making sexually explicit movements as the person was bleeding out.
I have to ask you, Andrew Clavin, Did the collapse of Rome have anything quite like that?
Well, you know, what's so interesting about this is I lived through this in the 70s in New York.
And when New York, you couldn't go out for a pack of gum, basically, without risking your life.
And friends wouldn't come to visit because it was so dangerous.
Rudy Giuliani came in.
And as they called him racist every single day, every single day, the New York Times called Rudy Giuliani a racist.
He cleaned up the city, saving thousands of black lives.
I mean, saving thousands of black lives, people who would have been murdered but weren't because he...
Didn't tolerate that kind of criminality.
It's amazing how quickly, how quickly the Democrats have reversed that trend in cities.
Our crime rates have been going down and down and down.
And even de Blasio in New York for a while was smart enough to keep some of the old cops in place in the, you know, at the top of the chain in the police department.
But ultimately, the Democrat leftist nature just took over and they start thinking about, oh, you know, there are too many people in jail.
All these lovely, lovely people are in jail.
And now you can't, you can't put people away when they're arrested.
They can get out.
Unless they're MAGA supporters.
Then they get solitary for five months.
Execution, yeah.
But no, it was a moment.
It took de Blasio a moment to turn Rudy Giuliani's beautiful city, which had become probably the safest big city in the world, into a cesspit.
It's a cesspit.
And what's amazing is, I think it's today they're voting in the primary, And the primary, of course, is almost the election for mayor in New York, because they're only Democrats, so only Democrats.
And the Democrats are competing to see which one of them can promise to let out more, let more people out of prison than the other one.
No one is really saying, they start, they kind of hint at it sometimes.
He has an ex-cop, he's a little bit tougher, but like nobody is really saying, hey, this is a problem.
But it's not just crime.
It's not just rampant crime.
And the footage of the two children almost being killed and then the Puerto Rican couple being executed, just Mafia style.
I mean, I've been to Afghanistan.
You've been to Afghanistan.
We don't want to see that on the streets of America.
But you're an expert on culture.
Can you, and you were born here, I wasn't, can you explain to me, somebody is dying, and I can understand if it's a body of yours, you want to break them out, you have an issue with authority, you want to smash the police vehicle, I can understand those dynamics, but sexually graphic gyrations Where does a human being associate somebody dying in an ambulance with my need to shake my backside at a camera?
Is that just the ultimate moral decay?
Well, it is ultimate moral decay, there's no question about that.
But what are the synapses?
What's firing there in those people?
I think you become used to it, though.
I mean, I think when you have... It's just a couch.
Yeah, if you have a... if you have a roach in your apartment, you step on it, you go out of your way to step on it.
If your apartment is infested with roaches, you hardly notice them anymore.
And I think what we have is a place where people are getting blown away routinely.
The police are not... nobody is shocked.
The police are not being called upon to do what police officers are there to do.
The police are being abused and, you know, slandered in terrible ways, where they do such an amazing, difficult job.
Ultimately, You just become inured to it.
You become frozen.
The guy lying there dying, which would make you and me hopefully run to help, or at least try to get help, you know, it becomes just another reason to celebrate, another reason to dance around.
And it is, you're right, it is a terrible, first of all, it's a terrible thing to do to the people who are doing it.
It is a terrible thing that has been done to the people who are twerking.
They weren't born like that.
They didn't have to be like that.
It's not some genetic characteristic that they're like that.
They are like that because of policy.
This is the people at the top.
It's always the people on the bottom who get blamed.
And of course, the people on the bottom end up doing terrible things.
But this is Democrat leftist policy.
This creates this.
Stop there.
I had dinner last night and it was a conservative crowd.
Somebody's birthday party.
Lady next to me, conservative, starts talking to me and she says, why don't you engage with Nancy Pelosi?
Why don't you invite the Democrats on your show?
And I said, for what purpose?
To waste time?
There's no concept of good faith, Socratic dialogue.
And she said, no, no, no, you've got to understand, they're all well-meaning.
Now, I got really angry.
And I controlled myself because, you know, it's a dinner party.
But I convinced her.
It took me 30 minutes.
And I understood why she said that.
She's a conservative.
Her daughter is a hardcore liberal.
And she thinks her daughter is well-meaning.
I'm sure she is.
But as you analyze a terrorist group, as you analyze the Third Reich, you have to differentiate between the membership and the leadership.
And Nancy Pelosi isn't well-meaning.
She knows what she's doing.
And we have to be cognizant of the fact that there is no good faith at the top of an elite that literally wants to dismantle our civilization.
Well, I think this is right.
As long as we're keeping it at the elite.
I personally, I would have any of them on the show because they never get asked tough questions.
They never get pinned to the wall because the press is part of it all.
But it really is a disdain for the people.
This is the thing.
You don't believe that an individual No matter what rank he's in, no matter what part of the class structure he's in, if you don't believe that individual has the right to make his own decisions, have his own philosophy, do the things that he wants to do within what's social and civilized, if you don't believe in that, and you're just afraid, you just think these people are bigots, they're racist, they're...
What do you care?
What do you care what happens?
You just want to keep them happy, you know, keep them quiet.
Bread and circus.
This thing about a guaranteed income always drives me crazy.
They don't have to work.
They don't need dignity.
They don't need creativity.
They don't need to make something of their lives.
Just give them enough money and they'll live lives like artists.
What is Pelosi said?
They'll be poets.
They'll all be poets.
You know, it's complete indifference to what ordinary people do.
I have known all my life, I consider myself a member of the elite in the sense that I've had money and I go to Schools and all that stuff.
But I understand that if I disappeared, and the guy who collects the garbage disappeared, they'd miss the guy who collects the garbage a lot longer than they'd miss me, if they ever miss me, you know?
As a child born and raised in the UK, I can tell you in the 1970s, the winter of discontent, when there were no garbage collections.
None.
Things get very, very Mad Max very, very quickly.
God bless Maggie, rest in peace, who brought us out of that.
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That blows my mind.
Somebody's bleeding in an ambulance and you're like, you gyrate?
Sorry, what?
It's really frightening.
Because it's animalistic.
It's like, it's a triggered reaction that's not thought through.
It's like, this is what I do to grab attention even if somebody's dying?
And it's amazing how fast it goes away when you enforce the law.
Oh, that broken windows policy?
That broken windows policy.
Or the jumping, the turnstiles?
Yeah.
It's what I warn the administration.
If you don't hammer, if you don't go the first two weeks, if you don't come down like the hammers of hell on the first leak of classified information, that's it.
You can kiss it away.
You know, at another level, it's exactly the same thing.
Yes.
It's exactly the same thing.
Once they know they can get away with it, they just keep doing it.
I mean, it's the thing that...
It's the thing that makes me concerned.
I mean, I've been talking about this for years, and I can't quite get anybody to understand what I'm saying.
You know, the famous quote by John Adams that our Constitution is for religious people?
It raises the question, well, what if we're not?
Right.
What if we're not a religious people?
Then what do we got?
Do you change the Constitution?
If you kill God, then everything is permissible.
Yeah, yeah.
Alright, we've got the twerking.
Can you come in with cut eight, Eric?
Thank you.
Got that?
8?
Can you... Cut 8?
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Cut 8.
Count 1.
Yep.
I like all these people around.
This massive staff.
This massive staff.
My buddy, Chris Blunt, he always likes to check it out one day.
The one hour morning show on NPR, on their website, has all the staff.
27 people for one hour.
And the show has a chef.
Wait, your show doesn't have a chef?
I have three.
They all cook.
They can all cook.
Yeah, no, it's on the webpage.
The names of the 27 people.
An hour long show.
An hour long show, on our dime, and a chef for the host.
It drives me crazy because NPR is, you know, if you like the arts like I do, I used to listen to it.
And they weave in the communism.
And it's all on Valium, so you don't even realize, if you're not cognizant of politics, that monotone kind of PR tone, and then Karl Marx is a really nice guy.
When the Hunter Biden thing came out, NPR said, we're not covering this because this is Russian... Disinformation.
And I just say to people when they tell me this, once you've been lied to, this is like, honey, I never cheated on you before and I'll never cheat on you again.
There was a Hungarian philosopher in 93 or 94 when he saw that none of the criminals of the old regime, the secret police officers who were still alive, you know, tortured my dad or shot people crossing the border, none of them got charged.
Not even charged.
He wrote a very powerful essay, The Land of No Consequences, and my question always is, have we become the land of no consequences?
Whether it's apologizing for running propaganda pieces, or the fact that the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA targeted a presidential campaign, and one lawyer gets a hundred hours community service for forging a CIA document.
A hundred hours community service as a federal officer committing a felony.
Coming in with cut eight.
Yes.
Stand by.
Casablanca, city of hope and despair, located in French Morocco in North Africa.
The meeting place of adventurers, fugitives, criminals, refugees, lured into this danger-swept oasis by the hope of escape to the Americas.
But they're all trapped, for there is no escape.
Against this fascinating background is woven the story of an imperishable love, and the enthralling saga of six desperate people, each in Casablanca to keep an appointment with destiny.
I was willing to shoot Captain Reno, and I'm willing to shoot you.
All right, Major, you asked for it.
Now, I'm a complicated guy. I'm a complicated guy.
Because my answer to the best movie ever made is...
Blade Runner and Casablanca, but that's who I am.
Andrew Klavan, he is the man behind my favorite podcast, The Andrew Klavan Show.
We used to make unbelievable movies.
I truly think, I mean, Casablanca, and if you read the history of how it was made, it was just chaos.
It was anarchy, anarchy.
I mean, how many script, I mean, 20 script writers or whatever.
But none of the people involved said, we're going to make A movie about conservatism and Judeo-Christian values.
None of them said that!
They were just artists!
If you want to trace the cultural history of America, Casablanca, I think the greatest American film ever made.
You know, people say Citizen Kane because they took down a conservative news magazine with great camera angles, so they think it's a good movie.
But Casablanca is a great movie.
What's it about?
It's about a guy who has been hurt, who lost his love, who has to understand that there are things more important than his personal problems.
Well, it's Christ-like!
Yeah, he has to make a sacrifice.
If you want to trace the cultural history of the American mind, look at that and then look at the movie The English Patient.
The English Patient is the anti-Casablanca, won the Oscar, It's about a guy who basically says, the countries don't matter.
We are the countries.
Our bodies are the countries.
And he actually sells secrets to the Nazis in order to get back to his lady love because that doesn't matter.
It's an incredibly anti-Semitic film in which a Nazi is shown kind of Not reluctantly torturing a thief because, you know, you have to take care of these.
It's an amazing movie.
It's a filthy movie in a lot of ways.
Yeah, it's invidious.
Filled with talent, filled with talent.
But that is the difference.
The difference between a country that is willing to sacrifice self for something larger and a country that says no, something larger has to be sacrificed for self.
So when did conservatives stop making movies like Casablanca and why?
Well, for one thing, the system fell apart.
They had a studio system that was run by businessmen.
And businessmen, the people who built the Hollywood movie industry, largely immigrants, many Jews, they knew what was out there.
They're like you.
They saw it.
They're not a guy who grew up in Scarsdale and thinks everything is great.
They understood what the alternatives were.
And they wanted to be accepted, so they were very liberal in that sense, liberal in the good sense of that word.
They wanted America to be for everybody who was in America, but they wanted to entertain the people.
They wanted to entertain the people.
Were there Catholics out there?
Well, let's do a movie about a priest with Bing Crosby.
Were there other kinds of Christians?
Were there Jews, Italians?
Let's bring them all together in this kind of vision of America that they sold to the world.
When the studio system broke down, and it broke down because of the courts, because the courts of rulings in the courts against the studio system, the inmates took over the asylum.
You had this amazing explosion of creativity during the 70s when you got films like The Godfather and Jaws and things like that in the early Spielberg pictures.
But, but, after that, what you had were actors and directors making the big decisions with the businessmen standing by.
And so you had the craziest people in town running the business.
And now, because it's an international business, because it's based on a lot of things that have nothing to do with box office, they don't care whether you go to see their movies anymore.
Their movies, I mean, when you make a movie, I can't remember what it was called, Moonlight Yeah.
It's about a black gay guy.
Not a bad little slice, a tiny little slice.
And you give that the Oscar, maybe seven people saw it.
You're no longer making movies for the people.
You're making movies for your own prestige and virtue signaling.
And that really made that industry collapse.
And now it's virtually dead.
Nobody goes to the movies except for the superhero films.
Right, right, exactly.
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Right, and it's also, I mean, because they had to rearrange the economics of the business, it's very complicated, but because they had to rearrange the economics of the business, they just don't care whether we go or not.
There are some movies that we have to support, like the superhero movies, because they cost so many millions of dollars.
Right.
Take a look at the 1939 Oscar nominees.
Every one of them is a great film, a classic film.
And I use that word, you know, advisedly.
I mean, it's literally a film that you could watch today and just think, wow, what a great movie.
Then take a look at, you know, they have to nominate 50 movies just to get a movie anybody's seen.
And that's what happens to all art forms as they go into morbid stages, that they break off into intellectuals.
Intellectual works that the elites love and trash that the public loves and but at the moment that they're at their peak you get Shakespeare who the elites and the public love and he's also a genius you know and that's and so you get John Ford who's making works of art that people want to see yes that's when that's when an art form is at its height.
Outside of Nolan who else are you impressed in the modern film world?
Oh man almost nobody who makes a modern movie and Nolan you know Nolan is a great talent but he doesn't make The Batman movies.
I like that and I like the one he made before that, Memento.
Memento's great.
Memento's a funny, fun movie.
The new ones are just so complex and feelingless.
Well, they're geek movies.
They're made by a geek for geeks.
And it's not that he's not talented and brilliant.
But who's a great director now?
If we're counting those who are still in action from decades ago, Martin Scorsese?
No!
Scorsese's a flippin' hack.
He always makes the same movie.
He's done the same movie 20 times.
But he had one great movie.
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Arrival?
I like him.
Arrival, not so much, but I have to say that I was really petrified of the Blade Runner remake, and he did a decent job.
It was a decent job.
But when you go back and watch the first movie...
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He just doesn't like that letter E. Andrew, we're talking Hollywood.
You're an incredibly successful script writer.
You know the milieu.
Let's pay tribute to a man who also understood what happened to it.
Cut nine.
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You cannot get a film produced now that has Islamist terrorists.
You can get movies produced.
In fact, you see them all over the place in which people of traditional values or corporations, American corporations, are the bad guys.
One thing I've been able to find out over the last 10 years is more money now comes from foreign box office.
So you're catering to the foreign audience.
And so we may have an investment against radical Islam, but the rest of the world wants to kind of keep at bay and doesn't want to take them on, doesn't want to foment rage against that community.
So how corrupt?
Now it's China that we have to think of when it's making changes in post to the remake of Red Dawn.
Just how corrupt is Hollywood, Andrew?
Well, it's corrupt.
I mean, and you know, it's ideologically corrupt.
It's not just money corrupt.
People always say all they ever care about in Hollywood is money.
That's because they've never worked in Hollywood.
They care about love, just like every artist works for love.
They care about women, getting good cars, being invited to the right parties, and all of those things depend upon a leftist point of view.
Right this minute in Hollywood, wokeism has so taken over that, first of all, the movies are garbage.
I mean, it's like they haven't made a good movie in forever.
The only good things that are really being made are these little thrillers like The Woman at the Window and The Undoing on HBO Max that are just kind of by-the-beat thrillers.
But this thing with China is serious.
It's doubly serious.
Well, it's triply serious.
It's serious for one thing because China wishes us ill.
China wishes to destroy the primacy of the freest country that's ever existed and make sure that their point of view, which is an oppressive, as we see in Hong Kong, as we see with the Uyghurs, as we see in the way they treat their own people, This is an oppressive form of government.
This is the CCP.
It's not a communist party.
That's a misnomer.
It is just an oppressive... I don't even know what to call it.
It's like a fascist party or some kind of authoritarian.
Let's call it authoritarian.
So that's one reason it's corrupt.
The other reason is because it shares, they share a point of view with Twitter, with Facebook, with Google, with all these people who want to be able to make a zillion dollars.
So they want As sort of a free market, but they don't want free minds.
It's not free markets, free minds.
It's just free markets.
We make a zillion dollars and then we exclude everybody else.
And we actually help the Chinese communist regime censor information from their own people, which is what Google is actually doing right now.
I have to ask you a question.
So what do we do, Andrew?
Do we build conservative ghettos of culture?
What is our response?
From people like you and I who know, it's not the hitting audiences over the head with our values, it's good stories based on those values.
But you know, you shouldn't say conservative ghettos because it took them 70 years to infiltrate and destroy our culture.
We're not going to win it back in one Trump term or two Trump terms or any number of terms.
We're going to win it back by slowly doing to them what they did to America, which is taking over the institutions and building institutions that put forward a different point of view.
If you build a conservative outlet for telling stories, you're absolutely right.
They don't have to be conservative stories.
They just have to be good, honest stories, because the world is conservative.
The facts are conservative.
Reality is conservative.
That's all we have to do.
If you do that, people will come.
You just have to make it so that they can't knock you off.
They can't knock you off YouTube.
They can't knock you off Twitter.
We don't do that.
We sit around and whine about the fact that they cancel us, but why do they own all the corporations?
Minute left in this segment.
We have one hobbling weakness from the get go.
If your ideology is collectivist, you can have a long march through the institutions because you are the Borg.
We are individualists.
Can we have a long march of drones?
Who's gonna have the plan?
I think we have to have a better definition of what it means to be free.
I think this idea that in order to be free, we can't talk about God because you may not believe in God.
No!
Our freedom is based on rights given to us by God.
We have to talk about God.
We have to talk about the good, and we have to define the good.
We can't just say there is such a thing as good and evil, but we have to say what everybody agrees with.
Freedom is better than slavery, and therefore, if freedom is not better than slavery, then why are we so worried about the fact that we held slaves?
And if it is better than slavery, then why are we taking it away from people in the name of racial equity?
We have to be able to call out what it is we actually do believe, which does, you're right, it does include a lot of different opinions, but not every opinion.
It doesn't include the opinions that are press, and those are the stories we need to tell.
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What are the rules about bumpers like that?
How much music can you use?
You have to pay a licensing fee every year and then you can use it.
You have a catalog.
You pay for the catalog.
Whenever I want to play music, they will only let me play like 10 seconds.
Right, that's the standard for like YouTube.
It's 10 seconds, 15.
For YouTube, you can't.
For film clips, it's 10 seconds, right?
10 seconds for films with dialogue.
That's why I deliberately chose the commercial, the trailer.
Oh, the trailer.
Because I wanted to do the Marseillaise scene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's an amazing scene.
They won't let you do that?
Well, you know, somebody can complain.
Yeah.
Right?
We had our first YouTube channel Canceled because who was it Imagine Dragons or Pissed that we used their music for our for our For our entrance.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, and they were like complain to YouTube or their music producer.
Universal.
Universal complaint.
Yeah, we used to get that a lot more than we do now.
I don't know why.
They used to knock me off YouTube all the time.
Oh, yeah constantly.
Yeah.
I don't know why they've kind of left me alone.
The show is doing well, but they just you know, don't tempt fate.
Yeah, they haven't caught up with me.
You know how they terminated our channel?
Yeah.
Finally when they killed it.
They went in to a private video we had made private that only we could access with their administrator and I had a guest who said there were issues with the last election and that's why they terminated us.
Wow.
On a private.
Wow.
That's how fascist they are.
A video that had been posted like months before the warning.
Months before.
Months before the warning.
And the thing about it is, it's fine to say that the election was fair and it's fine to say that it was not fair.
You know, either one of those arguments can be made, right?
You know, you have to prove your point.
But why is only one of those arguments being... There you go.
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Let me read to you something I received from a follower on Facebook.
These are regulations from Rutgers University.
You can see the heading, this is actually from Rutgers, and it's about people who don't get vaccinated who work for Rutgers.
And as an American Jew, I want to ask you this.
People who want an exemption to getting a vaccine must wear an indicator as appropriate as deemed by Rutgers.
The individual must display this indicator in a location where it is easily visible.
Your comments, Andrew Klaver.
Wasn't it MTG who just got attacked for saying that?
Brodka's policy!
You know, it's so funny, like, I am deeply in favor of vaccines.
Like, I really enjoyed not having polio, I got this vaccine, you know, I check with my doctor.
Smallpox!
Yeah, I check with my doctor first, but I'm in favor of vaccines.
However, the fact that they censor information about vaccines, that they don't tell you, look, everything you take, everything you put into your body can have a side effect, and this is no exception.
It makes people's conspiracy theories much more viable, right?
It's the silencing.
It feeds it.
You know, and it's the same with virtually everything.
When you talk about the election, you say, oh, you can't say there was any problem, no problem, no problems with the election.
You start to think like, oh, people came down from outer space and stole this election.
You're like, well, that's as reasonable as censoring ideas.
This is, this is Bad.
These guys are bad.
They have no feeling for freedom.
They don't care about your freedom.
They care about some vague goodness that they are going to bestow upon all of us.
And this is a down moment, you know?
It's a dark moment.
And I hope it's not going to keep getting darker, but it's a tough one.
60 seconds left.
Your message to those who feel intimidated so much that they will not publicly avow their values?
You've got to remember the culture is not in the movie theater.
It is in your hands every day.
It's in every word that you say.
It's being honest so that your children see what honesty looks like.
It's being honest so that your spouse sees what honesty looks like.
It is speaking up in meetings.
It's going to meetings and doing the things that have to be done.
That's where the culture lives.
Every single one of us is carrying the culture in his hands like a flame.
And if we let it go out, it'll go out all over.
A beautiful image.
We expect nothing less.
Every single one of you out there is a culture warrior.
It's not just guys with podcasts, cameras and microphones.
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Citizen Gorka, I think we're doing all right.
Good.
How do you think?
Yeah, not bad.
I think, you know, people are waking up to the insanity of the left with all these teachers and parents and even we have a video of a nine-year-old girl standing up at a school board meeting to say that BLM is racist.
So I think, you know, the Damascene moment continues.
Well, you know, I think John Stewart and Bill Maher, and I particularly can't stand Bill Maher, but they started the ball rolling.
Yes!
And Andrew Sullivan, and I don't mind particularly, though we can get on one's nerves a bit.
I mean, on behalf of Rupert Murdoch and myself, it was the last time I saw him, I gave him the Peter Utley Memorial Prize almost 30 years ago.
And whereupon he left England, shaved his head, drew a beard, and announced he was a homosexual.
And his writing performance ever since has been uneven, but he is writing some pretty good stuff right now.
On what?
On CRT or China or what?
On CRT, and he really took a shot at the whole woke thing, and now he's And now he's given CRT a real piece.
Look, he's like all these guys.
If he's a cannon in our army, he's welcome.
Where is he writing, Conrad?
He writes on his own website.
But the latest one is on RealClearPolitics today, if you want to get it later on.
I will, I'll print it.
Okay, so much to discuss.
30 seconds and we are live.
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Can you come in with cut 17 from yesterday?
17 from yesterday, yes.
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Okay.
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You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
All right.
President Biden's predecessor is going to return to his campaign-style rallies in Ohio this coming weekend.
Has anyone from the administration reached out to Governor DeWine or anyone in Ohio's government about the possibility of violence resulting from his return to the trail?
Is there any concern in going back out there and continuing to insist that the election is fraudulent and that he actually won could result in people being hurt or killed?
Obviously, we take the rhetoric of the former guy, as we like to say, quite seriously.
The former guy?
Well, first things first, that's a member of the White House press corps saying President Biden's predecessor.
He has a name.
And then to have Jen Psaki say of the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, that guy, the former guy, Oh, I'm at a loss for words, which isn't good when you're a radio host.
Let's ask somebody who I know has an opinion.
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Thank you, Sebastian.
Always a pleasure.
That former guy?
Has a press secretary ever said that from the podium of the White House?
I'm trying to recall.
Remember, that phrase could mean Washington or Lincoln or Franklin D. Roosevelt.
She didn't say the immediate form of that.
No.
But no, it's typical of the insolence with which the whole democratic media, which are essentially coextensive apparatus, disparages the ex-president.
But that's all I've got.
All I've got is Mouthing solidarity with the woke movement, no matter how extreme, dishonest, or in fact, prone to incitements to violence and racism they may be, and disparagements of the former guy.
That's the entire democratic program.
And that's what they do instead of noticing that they are about to be completely overwhelmed, like people wading in shallow water with a tsunami about 100 feet from them and approaching 80 miles an hour.
They are about to be overwhelmed by inflation, illegal immigration and the crime rate.
And, you know, mindless of their fate, the little children talk about the former guy.
And to use their terminology, this idea, Lord Black, that the current guy, is he concerned about violence breaking out at the president's rallies?
Your reaction?
Well, if he is, his solicitude is touching, but not entirely believable.
Where was he all last summer when Democratic mayors were defunding their police forces?
Well, Peaceful protests were burning half of America down.
Yeah.
Injuring 700 policemen as they were being demobilized for lack of funding.
I mean, where was he then?
Yeah.
Well, let's move on from the press call.
Let's talk about what's happening across America almost every single day.
Well, no, it is.
It has been for the last two weeks.
Every single day there is a new piece of audio or a new video of, no, Not members of the quote-unquote Beltway elite, but mothers, teachers, even young students standing up at public meetings, at school board assemblies, and calling out the indoctrination, the materials used under the so-called critical race theory to brainwash people into believing that skin color determines one's views.
Do you think that this is a signal of something larger?
Are the American people finally waking up to the long march through the institutions?
Yes, I think they are.
And I think it was predictable that they would, and I believe you and I were among the many who did predict it.
I mean, the fact is, the teaching, whether of young people, elementary school students, or members of the armed forces, that
Implicitly, the United States has been an evil slave-holding proposition and is racially inferior in its attitudes to society, and a racially unjust society profoundly throughout the entire governmental and social system of the country.
All of that is nonsense.
Ninety percent, at least, of Americans think it's nonsense.
And any country that has even vestiges of democracy, where 90% of the people are against something, what they're against is simply not going to be tolerated.
But it is surprising, is it not, Conrad, that there is a paucity, a lack of numbers amongst those who have the letter R behind their name.
There's a handful, Mo Brooks is one of them, but there are very few national politicians I think it's coming now, and I think you imply that you're surprised, and so am I, that we don't hear more of it.
You would think that with elections just around the corner, this would become a political subject as well as just one at local school boards.
I think it's coming now.
And I think you're surprised, and you imply that you're surprised, and so am I, that we don't hear more of it.
We do hear a fair bit of it from some of the Republican leaders.
But it's coming.
But you see, the real takeaway on the last, you know, just taking, say, the last month is, you know, as the regime slides into the real perils of completely uncontrolled illegal entry in the as the regime slides into the real perils of completely uncontrolled illegal entry in the South and stupefying numbers and
And the crime rate out of control as we get into the summer and out of COVID, so people are much more out of doors and prone to be victims of crime.
The takeaway is they're clinging, like drowning people to a raft, to the racist nonsense and the Trump aboki.
And, you know, Trump, it's just not credible.
I mean, Trump is in the news occasionally and sensibly, unexceptionably.
And it just won't fly.
I mean, with crime rates where they are and all the other problems that I mentioned, frankly, I think the administration is striking out in almost every area.
But with all of that going on, sitting there mumbling a mantra about Trump, like Victorian elocution school students saying C.A.T. spells cat, a sort of catechism, then, you know, it's not going to fly it.
The wheels are turning off in all four directions.
And to that point, the idea that somebody who is, he's not a sympathetic character, but he is deemed to be one of the greatest fundraisers and Democrat operators out there, who's now running to replace Ralph Northam as the governor of Virginia, when you have Terry McAuliffe, we used the audio just last week, actually say at a public meeting,
That critical race theory is an invention, a conspiracy, that was concocted by none other than Donald Trump and his adversary, Glenn Youngkin, for the governorship of Virginia.
Isn't that an indicator of a certain desperation on the left?
Desperation and obsolescence.
Terry McAuliffe, I don't know him well, but I admit him, he is one of the most obnoxious people I have ever met.
And you can see it as a public person.
He's a blowhard and he's full of himself.
And I don't think he can lie straight in bed.
And that's an example of it.
And how he was elected in the first place when he ran, I think, three times ago.
Two or three times ago.
I don't know.
I don't know how he did it.
But this ludicrous idea that Donald Trump is sitting down somewhere in a smoke-filled room with Glenn Youngkin and they are concocting critical race theory, I mean, that really shows a certain level of desperation, doesn't it?
You know, Sebastian, I was in Mar-a-Lago and Mrs. Post owned it.
And I've been in it since the former president has owned it.
The ceilings are 20 feet tall.
If it's a smoke-filled room in Mar-a-Lago, there's a hell of a lot of smoking going on.
Call the fire department.
Well, he doesn't smoke, he doesn't drink alcohol.
I haven't even seen him drink coffee.
No, Edward, I take your point.
Look, to me, Youngkin is a very, leaving partisanship out of it, he's a very well-spoken, contemporary, you know, credible Attractive candidate.
And McAuliffe, I get, leaving out the fact that when I had met him, which was only twice, I found him, I mean, he wasn't particularly offensive to me, I just found him an obnoxious person.
And I've had the same view, and I've seen him on television.
But leaving all that out of it, I mean, Youngkin looks like today, and McAuliffe looks like some, as he is, hack from the Clinton era.
And I don't mean Hillary, I mean Bill, I mean, you know, 25 years ago.
The most charitable word I think we can use for Mr. McAuliffe is oligogenous.
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He has to be one of the most unsympathico politicians out there, I really think.
I don't know how anyone can vote for me so obnoxiously.
Well, he just buys it.
I mean, he just fundraises like Billy-o and he just buys the love.
But there's certain limits to that, as Hillary found out five years ago.
Yeah, well, yeah.
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I remember when McAuliffe was party chairman.
That's when I met him.
He was a close Clinton associate.
He had the obnoxious parts of the Clintons, but not the good parts.
Even just in a group of three, he was really frightfully annoying.
Yeah.
No, there's nothing about him that is redeeming, at least in his public persona, that's for sure.
And this guy, Youngkin, looks good to me.
He looks like, you know, he looks like tomorrow's man.
Yeah.
I couldn't stand the outgoing governor.
He was the guy who said that, well, wait for the child to be born.
We don't like the look of him keeping comfortable while the mother decides whether to kill him or not.
I mean, that isn't abortion, you know, that's infanticide.
And he just, I don't know how he was qualified as an MD because he is not, I mean, when he talks publicly, he is not an intelligent individual.
Not a bit.
I don't care about the blackface stuff.
I mean, that happened in those days, and I wouldn't, you know, who cares what somebody did when they were in high school or a freshman or something.
But just in policy terms, the government is so impossible.
Look, I think it's looking good, but the real issue is that the Democrats are doomed completely without Trump.
And I think Trump could probably defeat them when we get up to 24.
But if, and I'm not saying you should do this, but if they aren't running against Trump, they are really going to go down the tubes.
They're going to lose everything.
Don't you think four years of Biden is going to be just so helpful to the president's cause?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
And I think it's going well the way he's doing it now.
All the Trump hate is settling down.
The other thing is, It's obvious what they're doing on this January 6th.
They're holding all these people in prison, not releasing them, and they're sweating them to try and plea bargain.
As you know, you can say anything in a plea bargain and you have an immunity from perjury.
That's such a rotten system.
And yet nobody seems to be rolling over.
And they're in solitary.
The majority of them are in solitary, Conrad.
Which is scandalous.
Absolutely scandalous.
Most of them are just trespassers.
I'll see it next to the White House, the most prominent building in the country.
But still, trespassing is only trespassing.
It's not a crime.
You hold people in solitary or even in prison for a month.
And how egregious is it that the only person killed that day, her family is not allowed to know who shot her?
No, no, no one knows anything.
The whole thing is absolutely outrageous.
And there again, I blame the Republicans to some degree for not raising hell about it, and the reason is they're still afraid of being tagged with the January 6th, we're really insurrectionists.
Right, the insurrection, right?
The pseudo-insurrection.
The Republican leadership, apart from Trump and DeSantis, A few others.
I'd exempt Hawley and Cotton and a few of them.
They could stand some courage.
Stand by.
Can you describe what safeguards the administration has in place to make sure that the children of top officials don't get preferential treatment in hiring?
Sure.
Well, let me say first that we have the highest ethical standards of any administration in history.
A number of ethics officials have conveyed that, and we're proud of that.
I have the best radio show in radio history according to my employees.
It is a fact.
That was Jen Psaki from the podium of the White House saying they are the most ethical administration in American history according to ethics officials of the Biden administration.
We are talking to Lord Conrad Black.
He is the co-host with our good friend Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett of the Sense and Intelligence podcast.
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Lord Black, I'm just going to ask you for your reaction to that wonderful video clip.
Well, just asinine in its conceit and inaccuracy.
I mean, who is this person?
I mean, I don't know what her position is, but who is she?
And what confers upon her the ability to weigh up, in her own mind, the ethical performance of the Previous 44 occupants of that division, I know he's the 46th, but that's only because Grover Cleveland isn't there.
Weigh them all up, all of them, and say, after five months, we're the most ethical.
And it's a pretty galling thing to do when there's a serious investigation going on of whether the election was fairly won.
There's a serious investigation, ostensibly so, of the relationship between the President, his son, and certain foreign governments, morally and ethically devious and dubious foreign governments.
And, you know, I'm not throwing muck at the Bidens.
I hope it is an ethical administration.
But she has no standing to say that.
What the hell does she know about it?
I mean, was there anything unethical about George Washington's administration?
Not that I've ever heard of.
He didn't even take a salary.
Indeed.
Like Donald Trump, who also gave his salary back to the taxpayers.
And John F. Kennedy and Herbert Hoover.
Those were the two.
Of course, he brings us the historical perspective, the presidential historian that he is.
Follow him, Lord Conrad Black, on Twitter, Conrad M. Black.
Your latest piece is entitled, China's COVID Coup.
It's at AmericanGreatnessAmGreatness.com.
We are posting it right now on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
And just the first sentence is striking.
China deserves credit for a remarkable feat of strategic improvisation in translating a public health crisis into a large economical and geopolitical advance at the expense of the West.
Please expand on how they brought strategic advantage out of tragedy.
Well, I think the probabilities are Sebastian, that the virus was created in the Wuhan laboratory, and it by mistake, not by design, escaped.
So they realized quite quickly, I mean certainly way ahead of any other country, the proportions of what they were dealing with.
They dealt with it within China with extreme severity.
They did absolutely nothing to warn the world People piling onto airliners and all of the major cities of China and flying out all over the world, inevitably taking this with them.
It was bound to happen and the authorities in China knew that.
Then, when they couldn't contain it, the news of it any longer, they masqueraded as being the world model in efficiency containing it.
And lied about the numbers.
Even to this day, they only claim a few thousand people died in all of the People's Republic.
And when, in fact, they resorted to totalitarian measures.
And then the West went to lockdown.
The Chinese got the pat on the back from their puppets of the World Health Organization, wherein the United States was paying.
And they quickly got over it.
And exploited it in economic breakthroughs and made a major advance in narrowing the economic gap and size of the economy between China and the United States.
And we've had the scandalous situation in the United States of the Democratic Party allying itself with the virus and promoting the panic generated by the Democratic media.
And China's profited from it entirely.
It's been a huge gain for them.
And after the illness got out there, they didn't lose any more lives in China than they would have if they'd been completely straight about it and been the good citizens of the world they pretended to be.
So Lord Black, as an incredibly successful businessman, former media mogul, financier today, what should decent countries like Canada, like the United States, What should our relationship be, not just diplomatic, but in trade, in business relations with a nation that still has not only a one-party state, but labour camps?
What is the right way to treat China, especially after Covid?
Well, it's too important a country to try and ignore it.
And up to a point, we have to accept that each country in the world is entitled to govern itself however it wishes, whether it actually consults the population or merely has a regime that has by some means emerged as the indubitably governing entity within that country.
So we have to accept some of that.
I'm not sure that the Chinese, it's been completely egregious what they've done, obviously, but The treatment of the Uyghurs, the treatment of the Tibetans, the treatment of all genuine religions.
I'm not talking about these ludicrous front organizations like the Communist Party of the People's Republic has set up, you know, the Patriotic Catholic Association, which the late St. John Paul II excommunicated all of them with good reason.
I mean, I'm a canon lawyer, but I wouldn't dispute his grounds for doing it.
And, you know, we have to put up with some of that and the violation of the Hong Kong Treaty.
But I think this business about COVID is something else again.
And I think the United States should join with other countries like-minded and similarly damaged by the negligence and malice and dishonesty of the Chinese government to require a genuine accounting by China of what really went on.
And in the very slight likelihood that we would get it, we could take it from there.
But if they stonewall us, continue to stonewall us, And it's not going to be like falling off a log, Sebastian, to get Germany in the line for once and say, you know, you know all about Central Europe.
They're hearing the forest murmurs and Angela Merkel on her way out thinks that she has some role as an intermediary between the West and China.
It's a complete delusion.
But the United States and like-minded countries should try and get as solid a front as they can and demand that of China.
And if they don't, Show some level of compliance.
The objective not being to humiliate China, but to require civilized behavior from them on this issue, which originated in China, was negligently or maliciously managed by the Chinese government, and has caused the death of millions of people all around the world, and huge economic damage.
If they don't do that, then we should.
If they don't show a reasonable, civilized level of cooperation, Then we should try and organize a regime of sanctions.
There must be consequences for China's deadliest export.
The article is China's COVID coup from the co-host of the podcast Sense and Intelligence, Lord Conrad Black.
Are you having fun with the podcast? - Yeah.
Yeah, it's great.
Good.
Was that coherent?
Yes, perfect.
I hope I didn't squeeze too many topics in, but I wanted to hit all of those wonderful cuts from the White House.
You saw them floundering around in Cornwall.
I don't think that you're going to get Germany to do anything.
My issue is, well, she's always appealed to me as a kind of washerwoman.
I was never impressed with her.
But my issue is, and of course because my parents were persecuted under communist regime, why do we do any business?
I know it's big, I know it's strategic, I know they make stuff for cheap, but it's all suppressed, the currency is artificially depressed, the idea that Google and Nike are doing business, It's outrageous.
There has to be a moral content.
It isn't just profit in the next quarter reports.
There has to be a moral content as well to our business.
Yeah, it's just where do you apply it?
Where and how?
I mean, I think you sort of calibrate it.
I mean, if China will respond seriously about COVID.
We have to recognize that.
But if it's all just part of a pattern where whether it's the Hong Kong treaty, the treatment of minorities, the treatment of religions, trade policy, China's answer to all of it is go to hell, we'll do what we want.
Right.
Then we're going to have to stand up to them eventually.
And I'm not suggesting that it's an exactly parallel situation in the slightest.
But we saw in the 30s the dangers of deferring, becoming serious about stating that some things aren't going to be tolerated.
Right.
And, you know, the result was Hitler looked like a genius when he was dealing with Chamberlain and Palladio, but once he was dealing with Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin, his life got a lot more complicated.
Yeah, yeah.
And eventually de Gaulle.
Yeah, indeed.
Where are you from?
Are you from Poland or the Czechs?
My parents escaped Hungary in the revolution.
My father was betrayed by Kim Philby, arrested and then tortured and then liberated in 56 after six years in prison and then made it to the West.
But the families originally, they left Poland in 1848 and then ended up in Hungary and then my parents escaped Hungary.
I knew George Fawlty well, you know.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he's a friend of my parents.
Yeah, he's a wonderful man.
Brilliant man and hilarious, too.
Yeah, the Hungarians have a unique sense of humor.
Yeah, they do.
All right.
Thanks, Conrad.
God bless.
Bye-bye.
She's in D, right?
Yes, my phone.
All right, I want to play, I didn't play yesterday, Maxine Waters.
That is cut number six.
Yes, 22 seconds on her with a cut.
And then we didn't use cut 12, did we?
What was that?
The CBS reported in Detroit.
We didn't use it, did we?
No.
Can you come in with that?
I just want to make sure people know that happened.
Come in with 12.
Yeah, and then I'll tee up Waters.
Six from yesterday.
And then what do we have left from today?
That's important.
What we can do in the next hour.
Oh, the kid.
We'll do the kid in A. Kennedy's good.
Kennedy's good.
Okay, good.
Okay, stand by.
10 seconds.
Standing by.
Coming in with a cut.
But all good things must come to an end, and that starts as early as tomorrow morning with showers moving in around 8:00 AM.
And speaking of a brand new week, I will be sitting down this week with Project Veritas to discuss the discrimination that CBS is enforcing upon its employees.
Tune in to Project Veritas for my full story.
That's kind of cheeky, isn't it, when you're on CBS saying, tune in to somebody else, and I'm working for CBS.
How many of these are we going to see?
It was that lady talking about air conditioners a week ago who was fired on that Fox affiliate.
Now it's CBS saying there is censorship, and I've spoken to Project Veritas.
Good job guys, good job.
It means they don't control their own employees anymore and the truth will out.
I have meant to cover a topic for a day now and I haven't and it's important to me because I'm a macro snapper.
What does that mean?
I'm a cradle Catholic.
And I have somebody else on my team who is, yes indeed, that dangerous papist.
Shadrach, are you there?
I am right here.
Is the Catholic Church finding its spine finally?
Is Biden going to be, well, not excommunicated for being a supporter of abortion like he should, but at least barred from receiving communion?
Can you give me an update?
So yeah, so for those of you who don't know or don't follow this particular news, other than like Fox and a lot of other mainstream, or excuse me, mainline sources we're talking about it, the USCCB, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops... Slow down.
Go down again.
The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops met last Friday and after several hours of debate decided to just draft a document That will explain the Catholic position on communion, or the Eucharist as it's called.
Is that a cop-out?
You emphasized draft there, Chaz.
Exactly.
So it's getting a lot of news and a lot of headlines, but in all actuality, the actual content of it has not been decided on.
So a lot of the more liberal bishops were upset about the mere idea of writing it.
It ended up getting passed with about 75% approval, so they were a small minority.
But what was part of the concept of drafting?
The concept of drafting.
So they claim that it will contain a special section about the position of the church on people who are supporting stuff that's against social teaching.
But hang on, hang on.
Bishop Gawker wants to say something.
We don't need that.
We know.
A, if you're not in a state of grace, and B, if you support things that are intrinsically evil, which the church is very clear, abortion can never be evil.
What is there to draft?
Is that a dumb question, Shannon?
So you'd be surprised, because a lot of people in the 1970s and a lot of people in Biden circles and more culturally Catholic areas were not taught properly.
Right?
A great example of this is after that vote was made, all of the Catholics in the House of Representatives who consider themselves Democrats wrote a letter to the Conference of Catholic Bishops saying, specifically, we don't agree with you.
Right?
We're going to keep doing what we're going to do.
We're going to keep supporting abortion.
But the thing that they said specifically was conscience.
We know that the Church teaches this is wrong, but our conscience says otherwise.
Now, for people who don't know much about the history of the Catholic Church in America, back when Vatican II happened in the 1970s, a lot of people took the documents, misread them, and did a lot of really bad You know, liturgical and theological stuff.
You have to bring up Vatican II and ruin my day.
I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
But after that happened, there were some people who were firmly convinced that your conscience... Overrides doctrine.
Overrides actual doctrine.
Which isn't true.
It's never been held by the church.
But a lot of people in cultural circles, like these Democrats, believe that.
Well, this is the line you get from politicians that, uh, my private stance and my public stance... No, no, no.
There's one stance in your church.
Well, if we go way back in time, Biden wouldn't even go that far.
Right.
In the vice presidential debate between him and, um...
Paul Ryan, I think it was, he got asked about this specific issue and he said, not only do I say this, I don't believe it, period, right?
Despite the fact that the church teaches it, right?
And so we'll see how the actual drafting of the document goes.
I mean, 75% of the bishops said yes, which is a strong indication.
I mean, a lot of people will claim that there's like really strong, more liberal theological forces in the church.
When it comes to actual people in power with a vast majority, that's not really the case.
So what's your prediction as somebody who understands the theology and the rights and wrongs?
My prediction is that in 2000, it's going to, they wrote the same document in 2006.
This already happened in 2006.
And they're going to say the exact same thing.
Which is?
And they have no power to enforce it technically, but that if you do advocate for that publicly, you should not be receiving communion.
Right.
That's it.
And that's what's going to happen.
Yeah.
Thank you.
If I'm a bishop, does that make him an archbishop?
I don't know.
Or am I a cardinal?
Not yet.
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Is that adequate?
It was.
Okay.
It was.
But we know it wasn't adequate.
What's that?
Did you remind me?
Did you remind me?
That's why I wanted to do that?
No, because you told me you wanted to move it to 3A.
I did?
Yeah.
We made the decision to do that.
Oh, I crossed it out.
I had it in 2C.
Yeah, so that's why I didn't remind you.
So I caught you unaware.
You did.
I apologize.
No, it's okay.
And I've got to mention the text line now that we're up and running, so I've got to do that as well.
You know how to use that Samsung's phone?
Yeah.
You got the technology.
Do I know?
I'm working it out, but it's so counterintuitive.
It's awful software.
They make like tablets like that for kids.
Yeah.
And they're cheap, so we bought them for our kids.
We threw them out three weeks later because we couldn't even figure it out.
Apple.
The only good thing about them, because Katie had them for years, is the camera.
The camera's really good.
So I've heard, yeah.
No, I mean, really, the cameras... The one upside over, like, Apple products is their cameras are so... Much better.
I mean, like a light year better.
Two minutes to Miss Yeshinsky.
You want me to do a pillow here?
Okay.
Titles?
Um, in a moment.
Hey, this is Jeff with Sebastian Dorka.
How are you?
Good, just remember if he talks during the commercial break, we're live on Rumble during the commercial break, sorry.
Okay, we have her on and the mics are up.
Emily?
How are ya?
Good, welcome back.
Hi, what's your name?
Thanks for having me.
Can we talk about this piece on the tyranny of jargon?
Yes, absolutely.
It's such an important issue.
Yeah.
What else are you working on?
Um, I just heard a piece on the opposition, the grassroots opposition to critical race theory.
Oh, stop.
That's enough.
Good.
All right.
We'll talk about that.
We'll try and squeeze that in as well.
Good.
All right.
50 seconds.
Standby.
Bye. - Sounds good. - Can you, I might think pillow.
Come, come in with a cut one.
One.
Kennedy.
Yep.
Yep. 17 seconds. 17 seconds.
17 seconds.
It will make it much easier to cheat in an election.
That's H.R.1 and the Senate equivalent.
Yes, indeed, Senator Kennedy always brings that witty phrase to the interview, but he's right.
It is about the American people losing their rights and the federalization of our elections, a massive threat to our republic.
Let's talk about other threats to the republic.
I love this title.
She is the culture editor of The Federalist, Emily Yashinsky.
Welcome back to America First.
Thanks for having me, glad to be here.
So one of, I think, of the last year, forget the masks and the insanity and everything else and the draconian governors shutting down businesses with no repercussions for them politically.
I think the biggest story, or the biggest untold story, Emily, is one that you wrote about, and you called it the tyranny of jargon, and that is the injection of politics An ideology into science, especially medical science.
We're going to post your article right now, but share with our millions of listeners and viewers right now just what you found and how bad it has become.
Yeah, absolutely.
That piece was written in direct response to a report that was diving into, it was by Katie Hertzog, diving into how badly that sort of culture of intimidation, where you're either a total progressive or you're a bigot, you know, just one or the other, has intimidated doctors out of actually doing necessary research and providing necessary medical care in some cases.
It's a really startling report.
When you start to think about this, it's so easy to get caught up in abstract conversations about what is sex and race and gender, but these are having really immediate consequences.
the jargon that the left has imposed, the elite left has imposed across all of these industries in our country, is having very, very real consequences.
They're not abstract anymore.
They're very, very immediate.
And it's a total tyranny because if you try to push back, you're labeled a bigot.
And that's actually to see that affecting doctors where this should be free or free inquiry and expression should be paramount.
And it's so essential to providing the best care.
It's really terrifying, you know, the trajectory that we're going.
Can you give us some concrete examples of what this report talks about or things that you've uncovered?
Yeah, a great example would be emergency rooms.
So there was a local bill or a local push to ban police officers from emergency rooms.
And one of the doctors interviewed in Katie Herzog's report said, listen, if we did that, here's an example, just a couple weeks ago, gang members busted into the ER to finish the job on a guy who was being treated for a gunshot wound.
If the police weren't there, that person would have died.
And so, when they weaponize their jargon to say that you're a racist, if you disagree with their idea of purging emergency rooms of police, there are literally life-threatening consequences.
And you can see how, on a local level, it'd be difficult for somebody to stand up against that and to say, well, I don't really want to risk being called a racist, but this will kill people.
And the doctors were saying they just don't see the benefit in speaking up anymore because they'll lose their jobs.
Yeah, and the same goes for the medicines that were recommended for use with the coronavirus that were politically censored.
Why?
Because President Trump was in favour of them.
Medicines blacklisted by governors simply for political purposes.
We're talking to the Culture Editor of the Federalists, follow them at FDRLST Federalist, and she's Emily Yashinsky, that's J-A-S-H-I-N-S-K-Y.
Let's talk about the good news, what we have witnessed almost every day in the last few weeks, and that is American people, not pundits, not show hosts, not politicians, but mothers, teachers, and students standing up to critical race theory.
I don't want to be, you know, rose-tinted about this, but there seems to be a true groundswell and story after story.
Is that what you're seeing as well, in terms of pushback?
Yeah, absolutely.
And the left is actually already noticing it, too, because they're doing their usual work of labeling it an astroturf sort of effect.
It's an astral conspiracy.
But these viral videos and local news reports really speak for themselves.
There's this very apolitical, grassroots swell of opposition to critical race theory, in particular, that we've seen.
I think that speaks to the endurance of common sense, especially on the local level where there's more goodwill and community so that people feel comfortable speaking up and saying they don't like something.
So there is good reason as we're heading into the 4th of July holiday soon to actually feel really good about the fact that people are still feeling comfortable enough to stand up and say, racism framed as anti-racism is still racism.
And I'm not going to be intimidated out of saying, you can't teach my child this.
And so it's actually been a very heartening trend.
You see how powerful it is just by the fact that the left is trying to label it Ashfordshire unsuccessfully.
And you see it also on the issue of trans ideology in women's sports.
I mean, you have these groups that are apolitical in blue states like Connecticut that are resisting The crazy, anti-common sense policies.
And I do think that speaks to the fact that in some sense it's a race against the clock, right?
You know, before tech totally closes the doors to free expression, can we still have these conversations?
But it does speak to the fact that on the local level, people are fighting back and they are comfortable doing it.
And that resistance is really real.
And that's a super positive thing.
And not only that, it's actually leading to results.
The breaking news is that in New Jersey, that school board has reversed their decision and they are not deleting the names of our national holidays.
That took a week, just a week for the pushback, but they won.
Do you expect more reversals like that, Emily?
Yeah, I do, and that's a great example.
I do, because on the local level, again, where these things aren't so nationalized and politically charged, and people have more goodwill built up, and they can have freer conversations, then you will see common sense does prevail, because so much of what the left is bulldozing through our culture is not common sense.
It's postmodern nonsense and moral relativism, and so common sense is not political.
It's totally apolitical, and so I do think it'll prevail, so long as You know, it's able to... that fight is happening fast enough.
Post-modern nonsense.
A perfect description.
The article is, The Tyranny of Jargon, How Elite Leftism is Killing Efficiency and Risking Lives.
We are posting it now on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
Follow this lady, Emily Yashinsky, J-A-S-H-I-N-S-K-Y.
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I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, your calls next on 833-33-Gawker, 833-33-46-752.
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Thank you, Emily.
Thank you.
I really appreciate it.
All right.
We'll send you the links.
Sounds good.
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Bye-bye.
Okay.
Titles. Their lives cost lives. .
Black, um... How China Came Out on Top.
Uh-huh.
Oh, yes, do that.
And then, uh, Claven... There's a lot there.
Yeah.
What happened to our movies, or something like that?
Can you come in with six?
Six.
Yes.
Wait, six again?
Sorry, yesterday.
Yesterday, six.
Maxine Waters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What should Claven be on?
Oh, you didn't do pillow in that last segment.
Oh, yes.
Then I'll tee up, Maxine.
Oh, OK.
All right.
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What was that chuckle?
That was like a yelp.
It's a hiccup chuckle.
It's Eric's special.
It's a hiccup chuckle.
Alright, stand by.
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Pillow.
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And then tee up cut six from yesterday.
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Let's go to your calls, Tom in Atlanta.
Line one.
Welcome, Tom.
Hey, hope you all are doing OK.
I'm really looking forward to Independence Day.
But in the issue of... I'm looking at this as sort of quality control from now on.
My calls and my activities to my legislators and stuff.
And one thing I think that would really impact China is A boycott of the Olympics.
I'm kind of torn on this.
I'm really torn on this.
Originally, I thought, yeah, good idea.
At the weekend, I saw somebody say, it's pointless.
You know, Tom, I think it's pointless.
I think it's virtue signaling.
They've got bloody slave labor camps.
So what if we boycott the Olympics?
What difference does that really make?
We know they're communists.
It's not going to hurt them.
Well, I think it would hurt their image quite a bit.
What do you mean?
It's a communist dictatorship with slave labor camps!
Yes, but having the debate in open across the world and bringing up all the issues and all the harm and all the things that Lord Conrad Black was just talking about, this is a gateway.
But they won't.
They won't.
Do you think CNN and the New York Times is going to talk about Nike slave labor trainers?
No, but we can.
But we do that every day.
But what difference does it make if we boycott the Olympics or not?
What real difference does it make, Tom?
Okay, let's do an MLB then.
Let's do an MLB.
Let's move the Olympics.
Well, that's not up to us.
That's the International Olympics Commission.
Well, but if enough countries said we cannot in good faith and good conscience support this, we want it somewhere else.
Maybe I'll have to delay it a year.
You will.
You'll have to delay it two years, probably.
I don't know.
I'm going to think on it a little bit more.
But you got me thinking, Tom.
And I appreciate it.
And I didn't pay you that cut of Maxine Waters.
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Okay.
So there we go.
Mics are back on.
All right.
50 seconds.
I'm going to ask you to comment on cut 10, Jeff.
Today's cut 10.
Oh yeah.
Football guy.
All right.
You want to come in with it or to you?
No.
Okay.
You got to play Maxine Waters.
Ah, yes.
That's right.
Yesterday's cut six.
Mad Maxine.
Mad Maxine.
It's insulting to the movie to call her that.
Alright.
Standby.
Standby.
by 20 seconds.
Thank you.
He may have been born in Britain, but now his heart is America's.
It's your favorite legal immigrant, President Trump's former strategist, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
All right, I said I was going to do it.
So I'm gonna do it.
Cause you gotta see her, just how crazy she is.
This is Maxine Waters on CNN with her latest wacky theory.
Cut six.
They can say whatever they want to say.
You know, one of the things we know is we need a commission.
And they're opposing a commission to find out who all was involved.
Where did the money come from to send busloads of people in?
Who supported them in all of this?
Where was the organizing taking place?
I'm told there was organizing taking place right in the Trump campaign.
I'm told.
Wasn't that what Harry Reid did with Romney?
I've heard Romney hasn't paid any taxes.
This is such sleaze.
Buses?
Uh, what buses?
Did you see some magic buses?
Were you smoking something that's not tobacco, Maxine?
They have no morals.
None.
Absolutely none.
Okay, let's talk about... Well, I told you what I am at the top of the show.
I'm white.
I'm a man.
And I'm heterosexual, but I don't see stories about... Why is CNN not reporting that?
Do you have to be gay?
Cut 10.
What's up, people?
I'm Carl Nassif.
I'm at my house here in Westchester, Pennsylvania.
Just want to take a quick moment to say that I'm gay.
I've been meaning to do this for a while now, but I finally feel comfortable enough to get it off my chest.
I really have the best life.
I got the best family, friends, and job a guy could ask for.
I'm a pretty private person, so I hope you guys know that I'm really not doing this for attention.
I just think that representation and visibility are so important.
I actually hope that, like, one day Videos like this and the whole coming out process are just not necessary.
But until then, you know, I'm gonna do my best and do my part to cultivate a culture that's accepting, that's compassionate.
I'm a private person and I don't do this kind of thing unless I'm doing this kind of thing.
That's why I'm posting videos about what I do with my sexual organs on Instagram.
Where's my sports expert?
Mr. G, are you there?
I'm here.
Does this matter?
Um... I just did a little bit of quick research.
Yesterday, right afterwards, I remember Drudge had it, the big top headline.
This was a big deal for Drudge?
Yes, it had the top three headlines about it like it was the biggest thing.
I just went on ESPN today.
Right now I'm on ESPN.com.
What order do you think it is on there?
How many stories are before it?
Before this?
Yes.
None.
31.
You mean they don't care?
I'm telling you.
I thought ESPN was woke.
They are, but I'm just telling you the reaction, it's weird.
There are 31 stories before this.
Yes, now we were talking before, the guy, Michael Sam, that came out in college.
Yes, tell his story.
So this is supposed to be the first active player Ever.
Who has to tell us he's gay.
But you told me something fascinating.
This was Michael's saying it was like five or six years ago he was in college.
And I do remember the other thing just to put on that.
That was the entire weekend that's all ESPN talked about.
It was like the biggest thing ever.
When he came in.
Yes, but the important thing with him is you kind of know where you're going to get drafted.
He was kind of on the cusp of what he might even not get drafted, might get drafted, probably wasn't going to make a team.
And he had a very bad combine, which is where you go and they check your strength, they check your jumping, all of that.
And he came out as gay and then all of a sudden, I'm telling you, he pushed them into the corner.
Somebody had to take him.
They had to because he's so, you know, representing.
So he went to training camp and he didn't make it, but he got all the attention.
I think he even got a reality show out.
Wow, so totally tactical.
Yep, and he never played in the NFL.
So your reaction to this?
I don't think it's that big of a story anymore.
It's crazy.
I thought that there'd be more people talking about it.
So does that mean, because I'm shocked by what you just said, does that mean there's hope for ESPN or this guy's just boring and nobody cares anyway?
No, because story number 26 is will transgender pioneer ever fight again?
Some guy I've never heard of.
All right, let's actually watch a cool video.
So, I mentioned it in the last hour?
Yes, I mentioned it with Emily Yashinsky of The Federalist.
Victory, victory, victory in New Jersey.
That school district that just last week Just memory hold our national holidays.
It's not going to be July 4th.
It's going to be Holiday 4 or Holiday Theta or Epsilon.
Well, guess what?
They had to back down.
The breaking news is that New Jersey district had to reinstate the names of our national holidays.
Why?
Because the parents said not on our watch.
Now, in Minnesota, in Lakeville, It's not a parent.
It's not even a teacher.
It's a nine-year-old girl who's had enough.
Cut seven.
Play cut.
The other day I was walking down the hallway at Lakeview Elementary School to give a teacher a retiring gift.
I looked up onto the wall and saw a BLM poster and an Amanda Gorman poster.
In case you don't know who that chick is, she's some girl who did a poem at Biden's so-called inauguration.
I was so mad.
I was told two weeks ago at this very meeting spot, no politics in school.
I believed what you said at this meeting.
So at lunch I went up to my principal to tell him about the BLM poster and that I wanted it down.
He said it's not coming down.
I was like, yeah it is, because the school board said on May 25th, no BLM or politics in school.
He said, that's weird.
They were the ones who made them.
I was stunned.
When I was here two weeks ago, you told us to report any BLM in our schools.
Apparently, you know they're in our schools because you made the signs.
I said there should be no BLM in schools, period.
Does not matter the color you make the posters and the font you use.
We all understand the meaning.
It is a political message about getting rid of police officers, rioting, burning buildings down while King Governor Walsh just sits on his throne and watches.
We all know.
Changing the fonts or the color of posters does not change the meaning.
I am nine years old and I know that.
You expect me to believe that you did not know what you were doing by making these posters?
Come on, people!
I do not judge people by the color of their skin.
I don't really care what color their hair, skin, or eyes is.
I judge by the way they treat me.
MLK said I have a dream that one day my four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
That dream has come true.
I do not care or look at the color of skin, but you make me think of it.
I have Asian, Mexican, white, Chinese, black friends, and I don't care.
I like them because some of them make me laugh, some are sweet and kind, sporty, or share the love of God.
They are just my friends.
You have lied to me, and I am very disappointed in all of you.
You cannot even follow your own rules.
If you're gonna do that, why do we follow any rules we deemed unfit or ridiculous?
I'm not following your mask rule anymore, then.
Get the posters out of our schools.
Courage is contagious, so be courageous.
Courage is contagious, so be courageous.
I think we've just found the anti-AOC.
And of course, she's nine years old and she's smarter than AOC.
But that is it.
What was the best bit?
Did you get the best bit?
The so-called inauguration of Biden.
Oh, my gosh!
What a wonderful lady!
Let's go to your calls.
People want to talk about the Olympics.
Let's go to Steve in L.A., line two.
Welcome, Steve.
Yes.
Hello, Sebastian.
Thank you for taking the call.
I just had a quick thought about the Olympics, the boycott.
And I don't think that we should look at it in trying to influence public opinion in the United States or Western Europe.
But what about influencing the opinion of the Chinese people, which is the greatest... An awakening of the Chinese people, the populace, would be the greatest threat to the Communist Party in China.
I agree it is the greatest threat, but you know who controls information in China?
Well, the CCP, of course.
Right.
Yeah.
So they probably wouldn't even know that it's been boycotted.
It's like when St.
John Paul II went...
When St.
John Paul II went to Poland, they didn't show the size of the crowds.
The fact that two million people went to the mass in Poland, in Communist Poland, the state television didn't show the crowd.
Information dominance.
And I don't necessarily support a boycott.
No, I understand.
The most important target of influence is the Chinese people because that's who the CCP is afraid of.
Interesting, still thinking about it.
Todd, on the same topic, line one, Mississippi.
Yeah, Sebastian, I disagree about participating in the Olympics in China.
I think if we show up, we're just supporting their Crazy way of life.
We're supporting their what?
Their communist way of life.
Now that argument I like.
This participation of free nations on Chinese territory is a quasi endorsement of that regime.
I kind of get that.
But at the end of the day, Todd, Is it going to make a difference?
I feel.
Is it going to make a difference?
That's the way I feel.
No, I get that.
Is it going to make a difference geopolitically?
I think it certainly would.
In what way?
Everybody boycott it.
No, I know.
How can you get everybody to boycott?
Todd, how can you get everybody?
There's 193 nations in the world.
How can you get everybody to do it?
Okay, you got me on that one.
Okay, but I'm gonna keep thinking about it.
And I appreciate it.
Stay with us.
This is America First.
This is America First.
Yeah.
Try looking into it.
Try like mini AOC.
Try and get her on.
I mean, you can tell by that the parents have to be politically active.
Oh, yeah.
So-called inauguration.
She didn't come up with that.
Michelle Bachman's daughter.
Oh, that name is a throwback.
Can you get John to post the Maxine video?
Mad Maxine.
And then what should we get him to post today?
Oh, that one.
The girl.
The Girl and Jen Psaki, Highest Ethical.
Can you do that?
Cut 4.
Alright.
Can you play me Cut 2?
Uh, yes.
One moment.
I think we did Maxine yesterday.
We did?
Did we?
I don't think so.
We didn't play it.
Yeah, we didn't play it, but we posted it.
Then put the twerking.
The long version of the twerking.
Alright, play it.
We can't wait until the next election.
Because if we have the same kinds of shenanigans that brought about January 6th, you know, if we have that for a couple more election cycles, we're going to have real problems in terms of our democracy long-term.
He's so inarticulate when he's off a teleprompter, isn't he?
He's just like, uh-uh, uh-uh.
Can you play Cut 3?
One thing that I can actually announce today for the first time is that we'll be flying the progress flag, a symbol that encompasses the diversity and intersectionality of LGBTQI persons in communities around the world at the State Department later this month.
We'll fly the flag from June 26th to the 28th.
Is that what they're calling it?
What the hell is a progress flag?
That's the one with the triangle of white.
It's the rainbow flag with the extra colors on it.
Pink and blue for trans, and then black and brown for Black Lives Matter.
No, and then there's I, too.
LGBTQI is what the White House represents, which is inclusion.
Intersex.
Oh, intersex?
Yeah.
What does intersex mean?
It means you're a hermaphrodite.
It means you're an alien.
Yeah, it's a hermaphrodite.
Hermaphroditic.
Hermaphroditic.
The, uh, pillow.
No!
Text line!
I need to talk about that!
Also, yes.
We're back!
Yes.
Alright.
And muting the mics for Mr. Starbucks.
Uh, hang on.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Hanging on.
I'm gonna tee up cut three after pillow, okay?
Three blinking after pillow.
Yes!
Got it.
Yes!
Okay.
Now mic's off?
Why off?
Well, because he's running for Congress.
He's not a congressman, though.
Oh, okay.
Alright.
Mic's are on, then.
We'll let him know.
Yes.
Is that Captain Starbuck?
Yes, how are you doing?
Why do you have the coolest name?
Well, actually, there's a weird story behind that.
All of my siblings have different ones.
They're Starshine, Starlight, and Sunshine, but they're all married, so they all have different names now.
Well, hang on.
Is it a made-up last name?
Yeah, no, totally.
It's hard to explain.
It would take longer than a segment to explain.
It has a long history.
You're not getting away that easily.
You are not getting away that easily.
As a fan of Battlestar Galactica, you think you just get to slip off the hook like that?
Unlikely, unlikely.
All right, standby one segment, nine minutes.
We are live in 20 seconds.
Standby.
All right, sounds good.
So, routine, I have to cut three.
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You know, in life, if you've got an issue, meaning people taking advantage of you or you screw up, what do you do as a human being?
You try and fix it.
You try and carry yourself differently.
I mean, isn't that the message of great philosophical works like The Karate Kid?
You get your head washed in the toilet and what do you do?
Wax on wax off until you can do the crane pose and you can crush that bully.
Not if you're Antony, I'm a beta male Blinken.
Okay?
He gets his head washed in the toilet by the communist Chinese diplomats at our Anchorage, Alaska summit.
And then what does he do?
He keeps being a beta male.
This is him about what's important to the State Department.
Cut three.
One thing that I can actually announce today for the first time is that we'll be flying the progress flag.
A symbol that encompasses the diversity and intersectionality of LGBTQI persons in communities around the world at the State Department later this month.
We'll fly the flag from June 26th to the 28th.
Xi Jinping.
He's just going to surrender.
I'm sorry.
Putin's going to resign.
There's going to be free elections across the world.
The Mullers are going to, I don't know, give their country to the Sunnis and peace will break out across the world because you're flying a polyester rainbow flag at the State Department.
You're so impressive.
Let's go to somebody who understands what the flag of America represents.
He is now running for Congress and he is, how shall I say this, comes from a family who knows what our values are in this nation.
Robbie Starbuck, welcome to America First!
Thank you for having me, Dr. Gorka.
All right, we have reposted your announcement.
You are endorsed by Rand Paul.
The video is very impressive.
It's at the top of my Twitter feed right now.
Explain to us who you are, where your family came from, and why you are doing the crazy thing of running for Congress in the 5th Congressional District of Tennessee.
So, you know, if you don't know my background, I originally made my name in Hollywood as a director-producer, directing and producing some of the biggest stars in the world.
But I did the craziest thing you can do in Hollywood, and I came out and endorsed Trump in 2015.
After that, you know, why would I do that?
My family came from Cuba.
And it's very simple.
Fighting Marxists is in my DNA.
So that's something that wasn't even a question for me.
I saw the direction our country was headed, and it was my chance to stand up.
Too many Cubans regret not standing up when Marxists came there.
And I wasn't going to have the same regrets.
So my full-time mission now is to make sure that they can't do what they did in Cuba to us here in America, and that our kids are free.
Because like you said, with this administration we have right now, I mean, if anybody was ever going to go after America, if China was ever going to declare war on us, it would be with these people, these absolute, I mean, intellectual shrimp that are in the White House right now.
They would do it now while they're worried about progress flags.
We have China buying up farmland in America.
I mean, the national security ramifications of everything China's doing, what they've done throughout COVID, is so large and we're worried about flags.
Yeah, exactly.
And Polly asked the flags of the State Department.
That's going to really change the world.
You can follow him at Robbie Starbuck on Twitter.
His campaign website is starbuck2022.com.
He's running in the 5th Congressional District for Tennessee.
We did a bit of homework.
This is a tough race.
That's like a D plus seven district.
Why are you running in such a tough district, Robbie?
Yeah, so we're actually we're looking at redistricting this year.
If you saw yesterday in the Hill, they ran a story that, you know, there's a lot of controversy from the Democrats because this looks like the easiest seat to redistrict.
And we don't have to gerrymander to do it.
The district is too large.
It's just honestly the right thing to do.
It has to be cut.
So they've cut it that way, and then Cook Political has also rated it as one of the most dangerous for Democrats to lose in this next election.
So it's actually strategic from the standpoint of, like, we have an opportunity here for an exciting, you know, sort of newly branded Republican to go out there and sell the America First message in an area that has a city as part of the district, and to show that we can not only make life better, we can make it way better than the Democrats have.
If you go around this district and you ask them what Jim Cooper has done over the last 32 years, you will not get answers.
And that's going to be a video that we put out soon, asking people with no edits throughout the district, what has he done to make your life better in 32 years?
Nobody can give an answer, because nobody even knows what the heck he does.
He is one of the least successful members of Congress.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Stop there, stop there, stop there.
How many years has he been in that seat?
32 years he's been in Congress.
Wow.
OK.
So he needs to go.
Beyond that, what is your message for the people of Tennessee and for District 5?
Why should they support and why should they vote for you?
Because right now, you know, at times in history, we're called to kind of have certain types of people.
Right now, we need warriors.
We need warriors for freedom and for America who are unashamed of the values that America has and who are actually proud of them.
That's a hard thing to find now, people who actually say, I'm proud of this country.
You know, and to be able to go out there and fight critical race theory, to secure our borders, to make sure we're making economically sensible decisions, that we're not wasting our money, that we're not doing things that are crippling America for our children, that we're going to fight China, that we're going to hold them accountable for what they've done.
We need people who are going to go after all these issues and who can stoke change when it comes to how we're seen in media and throughout the country.
We need people who are forward-thinking, who know how these people work, and to use their own tools against them.
We need to market the hell out of our party instead of allowing the Democrats to market who we are for us.
And so that's going to be part of my mission is making sure that we brand ourselves the way that we deserve to be branded.
Because we have the high ground on all these issues.
We have to get off defense.
We've been on defense too long.
We have to be offensive at every level of government.
And we have to sell our message because we have the moral high ground.
They don't.
It's time we start acting like it and we fight them on their turf using their tools against them.
We've got just over a minute left with Robbie Starbuck running for Tennessee's 5th congressional district to get an incumbent swamp dweller out.
Share with us your take on Donald Trump and the swamp.
Where does Robbie Starbuck stand?
And I mean the rhinos.
Oh, the rhinos have to go.
I mean, that's honestly, right now, I'm not fighting the Democrats or the Jim Coopers of the world.
I'm fighting rhinos.
That's honestly, that's my fight right now, because the rhinos don't want people like me in Congress.
They don't want us there just as badly as AOC doesn't want us there.
Because we mean that their power system is crippled.
It means that we're handing power back to the people and that they can't get away with the backroom deals they've gotten away with for so long.
So, you know, his petition going after them, he opened up a door for people like me, who are outside-the-box candidates, to come in like a wrecking ball and go after these people, because we all have different skill sets.
You know, I have a very different skill set than Trump had.
And in some ways, areas where some people would say, oh, you know, we need to be stronger here.
I can fill those gaps, you know?
And so I think he sort of introduced a myriad of different people who can fill gaps in areas and create a strong lion presence to go after and go on the hunt against these Marxists.
So that we can not only save this country, but expand freedom there.
Check out his website.
The beautiful family at the top of his Twitter feed.
He's Robbie Starbuck.
We need more citizen politicians.
You can support him at starbuck2022.com.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
God bless you.
More power to you.
That's the America we need tomorrow.
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How important are those blurbs you see on the back of books?
I bent over backwards.
I slaved day and night on my first book to get the likes of Sean Hannity, Justice Janine, Mark Levin.
I think they matter.
I've got a book in my hand.
It's called The New Civil War, Exposing Elites, Fighting Utopian Leftism, and Restoring America.
And it's got some great blurbs.
It's got Joel Pollack, our buddy from Breitbart.
It's got Harmeet Dhillon, that warrior lawyer.
And some chap called Gawker on the cover.
We've got the author here.
His name is Bruce Abramson.
He is the director with the American Center for Education and Knowledge.
I love that.
I love that title.
And a partner at JBB and A Strategies.
Bruce, welcome to America First.
Thank you, Seb.
Pleasure to be here.
So, thank you for my copy of the book.
Everybody needs to go and get it right now.
It's the new Civil War.
Nice design as well.
And there's one sentence I lift from the fly cover.
Americans who support the Constitution have become counter-revolutionaries.
I love that.
It's deep.
Please explain to our millions of listeners and viewers what that sentence actually means.
Absolutely.
This is the war that we've been fighting.
This is the war that Donald Trump has been fighting.
I mean, anybody who thinks that Donald Trump rode into Washington and became an insider is kidding themselves, right?
We have lost.
I mean, the left has been talking about its revolution for decades, and they've been very successful at it.
They've taken over all of our culture.
If there is a way that you can shape a story or get a story out, they control it.
They control higher education.
They control K-12 education.
Hollywood.
Wall Street.
Silicon Valley.
Professional organizations.
Down the road, they've got it.
So we are fighting a counter-revolution.
We are the counter-culture.
No, this is the fascinating thing that now the cool kids are the conservatives and the left-wing radicals have become the establishment.
They love the FBI suddenly.
They love the CIA.
They have become the man.
Let me ask you this.
We've spent a whole hour with Andrew Clayton mapping the cultural challenge.
I want to ask you, Bruce, as such a keen observer of what's happened in recent decades, What was the right doing as the left had its long march through the institutions?
It's one of your chapters.
Was it, you know, a Borkian lurching for the snooze button?
What is your experience in terms of how they succeeded?
Was it simply they had a plan and we didn't, Bruce?
Well, part of it is, yeah, they had a plan and we didn't.
They were always trying to push things in a direction, and I mean, you know, Bill Buckley standing at Ford History yelling, stop, is not exactly a dynamic figure.
Yes!
All the dynamism was on the left.
And the only ones who saw this, by the way, I remember reading about this as a kid, the ones who saw that the hippies would become the establishment was Mad Magazine.
Yeah, I loved MAG Magazine, even Cracked, which was like a slightly more, you know, churlish version of that.
But to some extent, the right didn't have a plan.
And to another extent, I mean, the problem is the right trusted the institutions, as those institutions were eroding beneath them.
And we saw this most recently, right?
I mean, Donald Trump knew what the left was doing with the election, going into the election.
And he didn't stop it.
He trusted the institutions to step forward.
He trusted the Supreme Court.
He trusted the state legislatures.
And when they didn't come forward, he had nothing to go on.
So what is it that we must do with those institutions, Bruce?
First of all, stop trusting the institutions.
The institutions are lost.
New Civil War, I mean, I talk about, I go back through where I believe it started, which is in academia and higher education, which is one of the reasons that all the stuff that's coming out now always has this patina of this theory and this scientific proof.
And this new discovery, it all starts from academia.
But essentially, the incentive system behind academia and inside most of our institutions is to flatter the people who are there running it already.
Which means that I'll take your work and I'll push it one half step further in the same direction you've already pushed.
And the next person will push my work a half step further.
And over time you discover that you're going very far away from reality because all of those steps are heading to the left.
And we've lost all of our institutions that way.
His name is Bruce Abramson.
The book is The New Civil War, Exposing Elites Fighting Utopian Leftism and Restoring America.
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We're talking to the author of the new book, The New Civil War, and it has a lot to do with the people who say they know how you should live your lives.
The most obvious of her, of course, is Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has a very high opinion of himself.
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It's very dangerous, Chuck, because a lot of what you're seeing as attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science.
Bruce, the role of experts in getting where we are today?
Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, this is real old regime stuff.
This goes back to your first question about how we're now the counter-revolutionaries, right?
The state is me, le tatin moi is what brought down, is what brought on the French Revolution.
I mean, this is one of the things that I talk about in depth in the book, is the corruption of our institutions of higher learning, and in particular, the corruption of science.
Most people who say they follow the science couldn't tell you the science.
What they mean is that they found a particular scientist they like, and they trust them.
And it's these self-serving experts serving not the cause of science, not the cause of knowledge, but rather the cause of their own establishment.
That have brought us to where we are.
You know, my favorite, and I'm sure we've all heard it, is... Seb, you know that 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is real, right?
Right, because that's how science works.
We vote on it.
Does gravity exist?
We vote, right?
Bruce, that's the scientific method.
Well, it's even worse than that.
Because who are these climate scientists?
These are guys who are well-funded, who've been promoted, whose entire prestige hinges on what's happened to climate science.
And the big thing that's happened to climate science is climate change or global warming.
If anybody disproved it, they would look like fools, they'd lose all their prestige, they'd lose all their funding.
They'd have nothing.
97% of the people whose lives and livelihoods and egos and self-images are contingent on climate change being real, agree that climate change is real.
That doesn't make them wrong, but it makes me skeptical.
Yeah, when your livelihood, when your grants, when your awards, when your promotion depends upon whether or not you subscribe to a theory, well, that's the day that science dies.
We're talking to Bruce Eberson, partner with JBB and A Strategy.
He is the author of the new Civil War.
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It's endorsed by somebody called Sebastian Gorka, so it must be good.
Bruce, tell us what you are seeing.
Everybody needs to understand the threat, why we are the true counter-revolutionaries today, the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution.
And also, I want to ask you, what is the most important message?
Everybody needs to read the book, but what message should the readers take home?
And share with us, if you will, are you seeing any positive indices of people waking up to the situation we're in as a nation?
Well, we do see people waking up.
And let me say right now, it can't just be Republicans versus Democrats, right?
I mean, what we want, I'm talking about we as patriotic Americans, we want to have a republic.
And you can't run a republic if 51% of your citizens want a republic.
You really need a supermajority that wants to preserve the republican spirit.
The most important takeaway is I tell a lot of stories and I talk a lot about what's happened, how to view what happened during 2020, how we got here.
But the most important takeaway is I actually give people tools to recognize what's going on around them, how to see what's coming out of the woke mouths of their family members, their co-workers, their neighbors, in some cases, their pastors or priests or rabbis, their school districts, their kids' school books, how to spot the problem and how to fight back.
So, I mean, for me, the most important message that I get across is not what I explain to people, not what they can come to understand, but the practical tools that they can use to actually begin to turn the tide on culture and conversation And get out what's real and what's important.
Get beyond the progressive ownership of language.
And the message you have is, as counter-revolutionaries, we want to go back.
It is a restoration of America.
We're not creating something new.
Correct, Bruce?
Absolutely.
It's a term that I introduced.
It was because I was thinking of it and I was thinking, you know, conservatism.
People say conservative is a temperament.
It's ill-suited to the current moment, right?
I mean, we can't conserve what we've already lost, and we have already lost most aspects of American culture.
So true.
You can't conserve it if it's already been destroyed.
We have to restore it.
And ours is not an ideology.
Ours is a cleaving to the truth.
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Thank you, Bruce.
God bless.
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That last point Bruce made is so essential to understanding the situation we find ourselves in today.
What did he say?
It's not enough just to avow ourselves our identity as conservatives who are conserving the values that we know have worked over a millennia.
Why?
Because in the last 70 years the left has been successful.
I mean just look at one concept.
The concept of marriage.
Marriage between a man and a woman, not between a man and a man and a woman and a woman.
I'm sorry, that's not a marriage!
How many people who consider themselves conservatives have said his husband?
Seriously, how many people have said that?
If you have, You're part of the problem because you're reinforcing what?
Their victory.
Their falsehood over our truth.
It's not a question of conserving those values.
It is a question of restoring those values.
We have to rebuild the Republic.
We can't just start talking the truth to our children at home when their minds are being pumped full of the lies in the schools for six, seven, eight hours a day.
When their PE teacher is using critical race theory.
When their music teacher is talking about the inherent oppression of classical music over minorities.
So this is our mission today.
To redefine our understanding of what it means to be a conservative.
Which requires activity.
The generation of a response to the lies.
Not just holding true to what we believe.
But through our actions, and not just our words, imposing the reality of truth on everything around us.
Through our actions, demonstrating that there is only one truth.
A man is a man.
A woman is a woman.
The family is the base essential unit of our civilization.
And human rights, civil rights, even human dignity cannot exist Unless we understand their source.
If you deny the existence of God, if religion is just an opiate of the masses, then anything is possible.
Murder isn't murder, it's just killing!
Like an animal!
Like a cheetah hunting down a gazelle.
It's not murder, it's, you know, dinner!
We must live by those tenets.
Our rights come from God.
Man has a role.
Woman has a role.
And America is the greatest nation on God's Earth.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
Keep your head on a swivel.
Watch your six.
Hold the line.
Never give up.
Never give in.
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