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	Thank you.
	Every president since Clinton inherited basically a declining crime rate and then it continued to decline until Trump came along.
	Because Trump recited over the greatest crime rise in modern American history.
	The murder rate shot up 26% and mass shootings spiked.
	Hate crimes spiked more than 20% during his presidency.
	Now I don't want to lay the whole thing at his feet, but he did create four years normalizing crime.
	He spent four years normalizing crime.
	They don't just lie, they lie to your face with the big lie.
	The bigger it is, the bolder they are.
	Joy Behar, you are a liar and a hack.
	I have in front of me something that's been sitting on my desk for a few days because I have to mention it sooner or later.
	So far, this year, there has been a 40% increase in the number of police officers murdered on duty.
	That is according to the Officer Down Memorial page.
	The media would have you believe That crime was normalized by a president who had the utmost respect for the police.
	I saw it with my own eyes.
	Whenever we landed, wherever we were, he would get off Air Force One, he would get out of the beast, and he would say thank you to the police.
	He fought to protect them and to fight those who wished to defund the police.
	They are now in control, and as a result, police officers and Americans are dying.
	That Puerto Rican couple, that savage video on Juneteenth, gunned down, their children now orphans.
	Why?
	Because some black American didn't like their Puerto Rican flag?
	David Dorn, a black retired police officer, a captain, gunned down.
	Why?
	Because he was trying to stop BLM and Antifa rioters?
	Okay, I'm gonna calm down now, because I'm gonna give you evidence.
	That America is waking up.
	That America has had enough!
	I heard this on a friend's radio show.
	It's from clearly someone like me.
	An immigrant to this country who came from the UK.
	We're going to tell you about what happened in Loudoun County last night.
	An incredible, incredible school board meeting.
	Two arrests, but people prepared to push back.
	And they're going to be on the show with me.
	But this is from Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
	Now why is that interesting?
	I've been to Bucks County many, many, many times.
	I had a relative who lived there.
	It is a very she-she part of Pennsylvania.
	Very Tony, as they say.
	But even there, they've had enough.
	This is a former school board member who's a fighter.
	Cut one.
	Play cut.
	I'm here to speak today.
	I believe, Gary, you said it was item KKK in the agenda book.
	Well, isn't that just a perfect, perfect summation of what it is I'm here to talk about?
	KKK, your proposed new school board policy seeking once again to limit the constitutionally protected speech of American citizens.
	Now, When I sat on this school board, I believe some of you old-timers might remember this.
	A union guy spoke at public comment for five minutes and ripped me a new one.
	He called me the bastard child of Margaret Thatcher.
	And I sat there and I said to myself, OK, fair enough.
	Welcome to America.
	He considers me a bastard because I'm in the government.
	His logic is sound.
	Now, what happened was the superintendent and the school solicitor at the time freaked out and they didn't put the tape online the next day.
	And I called them up and I said, get the tape online now before we get sued for censorship.
	I yelled at the solicitor and I asked him what law school he went to.
	Because it was clearly constitutionally protected rhetorical hyperbole.
	I can cite the case if you'd like.
	And I said to Paul, along with the superintendent at the time, don't ever cut the tape again, Paul.
	And by the way, bastard child of Margaret Thatcher, I took it as a compliment.
	Now, you snowflakes apparently have a bigger problem with public comment.
	It seems to me that you think you can supersede the United States Constitution.
	Well, I've got news for you, School Board President Benito Mussolini.
	Your power does not supersede that of the U.S.
	Constitution and the First Amendment rights of the citizens of this great nation.
	Let's be very, very clear who has the power.
	It's not government policy.
	Do not warn me or do not interrupt my time.
	If you interrupt my time, do not interrupt That is how it is done.
	The Constitution supersedes everything.
	step away from the podium.
	I am asking you to make your comments.
	That is how it is done.
	The Constitution supersedes everything.
	And where we are right now is a place where radical anti-American individuals who managed to march through the institutions to take over these school boards because they think
	that their ideology of bigotry, of hatred, of censorship overrides the basic law that is our Constitution. - Thank you.
	I don't know exactly why it is, but I have a very, very strong suspicion that it is a combination of the China virus resulting in our children being at home
	Being indoctrinated through video streams on Zoom calls with their Marxist teachers that has led, along with the violence of Black Lives Matter and Antifa, to a collective awakening of this nation.
	It is stunning.
	Did you hear the cheers from the crowd in Bucks County?
	Not exactly deepest, you know, oil rig Texas.
	Bucks County!
	I am positive that the majority of people that the county of Bucks County voted for Hillary Clinton.
	But that was then and this is now.
	And this is why we will win.
	Because there is a point at which it's no longer politics.
	There is a point at which it is about the truth, about the future, about our children, about God and everything that is sacred upon which this nation was built.
	And at that point, it's not about the Democrat Party, it's not about the Republican Party, it's about free men versus dictators.
	And he's right to use that phrase, that name, that appellation, the little Benito Mussolini's.
	Who, by the way, was a communist before he invented fascism based on the Roman imagery of the fascists.
	There is no difference between the two.
	There is no left and right extremist extremism.
	There is socialism in different garbs.
	And they have tried to take over this country.
	But right now, they are Trembling.
	To the core of their existence.
	Because men like that, the guests you will hear later on this show, will not let them win.
	Will not let them pervert this nation into some vision of a socialist nightmare.
	America has had enough, and we're fighting, and we're ready to take back our republic, school board by school board if necessary.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	All right, clear.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Alright, do we have Neil's contact info?
	Dialing him up.
	Yeah, right about now.
	Do you know where you want to do pillow, Dr. G?
	Pillow is, um, now.
	Hello, Mr. Gardner, can you hear us?
	D and B and B. Okay, just letting you know the mics are currently live on our internet broadcast right now, on our livestream, just so you're aware.
	Great.
	Yeah.
	Audio sounds... Can we get an audio check?
	Yeah, can we, uh... There's no way you can dig up that Thatcher cut from, like, a week and a half ago.
	Uh, the one we used on Newsmax?
	Yeah.
	I can get it for the second segment.
	Good.
	Perfect.
	Is your video starting up, Mr. Gardner?
	Oh, hang on, let me see what's happening here.
	You know, I have the camera on, actually.
	I don't... I don't see you, but I do have my camera on.
	It says... yeah, on our screen it shows the camera not being on yet.
	That's great.
	Let me just try putting it on again.
	Yeah, I'll call right back.
	Okay.
	Uh-oh, we're getting into the close-to-the-shed policy.
	We have two minutes and two seconds.
	Okay.
	So chill.
	Every time I try and do things efficiency oriented.
	You don't have a headset with a microphone like an iPhone?
	Yeah, unfortunately, I don't.
	Don't worry about it.
	Is that okay?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Mr. Gardner, could you adjust your camera down a little bit, please, sir?
	Good.
	Oh!
	Right.
	Hang on.
	It keeps bouncing back.
	Can you tip it a little bit more?
	Down a little bit more?
	Okay, and then... That's... What do you think?
	That's good?
	Can you try it again just a little bit more because it keeps readjusting back?
	Good.
	That's it.
	Perfect.
	How are you doing, sir?
	Good, good.
	Having fun.
	How about you?
	Yeah, fine, thanks.
	Just held a Brexit panel this morning.
	What do you mean Brexit panel?
	Are you telling me it's under threat again?
	No, no, no.
	This was celebrating the fifth anniversary of the referendum.
	Oh, good.
	When was the anniversary?
	Actually, in fact, today.
	Today, yeah.
	Gotta come in with something British!
	Where's the, uh, God Save the Queen, or... Where's that stuff you used previously?
	I got it.
	You got it?
	Good.
	Roll in with it.
	What a perfect timing.
	Yeah, yeah, great timing.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Good.
	Alright, stand by.
	60 seconds, and we are live.
	What was that Thatcher cut that you wanted?
	Socialism is the kissing cousin to communism.
	Okay, I don't know that one yet.
	We'll use it in a second.
	Okay.
	- Okay. - Good stuff.
	40 seconds.
	Alright.
	Standby.
	Standing by. Standing
	by. Standing
	by. Standing by.
	We never, never shall be slaves.
	That's the spirit of the British, and it is being celebrated today because of the anniversary of a certain seminal historic event.
	To tell us more about it, we have with us the director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom from the Heritage Foundation, the conservative mothership, Niall Gardiner.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thanks.
	Thanks very much, Seb.
	It's great to be here again.
	Thank you.
	So what is this anniversary we're celebrating today, the Heritage Foundation?
	Yes, well, actually, it's the fifth anniversary of the 2016 Brexit referendum.
	That magnificent win for the Brexiteers over the forces of the EU, over the forces of socialism.
	And it was a great day actually for the British people when the British people could basically declare their independence, their sovereignty from the European Union.
	So today we celebrated the fifth anniversary with a Brexit panel featuring some of the leaders of the Vote Leave campaign and it was a great discussion.
	And you know, let's face it, the world is a far better place With the British outside of the European Union, free to the shackles of the EU, and the British people have reclaimed their freedom and their sovereignty.
	That's a truly great thing.
	So it was the biggest assertion of people's sovereignty, with over 17 million Brits voting to leave that proto-socialist entity that is the European Union.
	However, Niall, For a while it was touch and go, and I am shocked as a former Brit who lived in the UK, born in the UK, to see that it wasn't just the lefties, it wasn't just the globalists, it was the House of Lords, it was the establishment, it was lawyers, Billionaire, successful businessman who tried for years to sabotage the people's will.
	It truly is an indication that populism has to be encouraged because otherwise these unelected individuals will try to sabotage the people's will again and again and again.
	Do you concur?
	Yeah, well the Brexit victory was a great win for The British people over the establishment.
	After all, the political establishment at that time headed by then Prime Minister David Cameron opposed Brexit.
	You had to fight against the European Union establishment.
	You had to fight against Barack Obama and the international establishment.
	Plus, you had to fight against the media led by the BBC.
	And so the Brexit victory, and as you mentioned, 17.4 million Britons voted to leave the EU.
	This was an incredible win against all the odds.
	Hardly any opinion polls, for example, suggested that the Brexiteers could win.
	But they have the confidence and self-belief that they could win here.
	And it was a triumph for the British people over the ruling elites.
	And it really was a magnificent victory against all expectations, frankly.
	You know, I was in close communication with the Vote Leave campaign at the time ahead of the referendum.
	They were confident in themselves that they could win this based on their own internal polling.
	And as it turns out, they were absolutely right.
	So we have to talk about what else is in the news with regards to our cousins across the Atlantic.
	Tell us what the reaction has been from the people in the UK, from the media and from the Prime Minister and his team to this shocking news coming from the Black Sea that the first time ever that Russian forces have fired live rounds against a British warship What is the response?
	Are you reassured by what you're hearing out of 10 Downing Street?
	Because this is a true escalation.
	Well, it is an escalation and we're seeing numerous reports from the UK on this particular episode where this is an act of aggression, clearly.
	If all the events are fully confirmed.
	An act of aggression by the Russians against Great Britain.
	Why are the Russians acting against Britain?
	It's because Britain is now by far the strongest power in Europe standing up to Putin and the Russians.
	And so the Russians are lashing out.
	And Brexit Britain is standing up to the Russian bear.
	In contrast, the European Union is cowering before the Russians.
	The EU is in full appeasement mode.
	The Germans are supporting the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that the Russians are building.
	Of course, Joe Biden's backing the Germans over this.
	But the British are standing firm, which is why the Russians are trying to intimidate and threaten the United Kingdom.
	They're not going to succeed, clearly.
	But we have to be on our guard here.
	I mean, the Russians are getting very aggressive.
	And this further reinforces the need for Britain and our allies across the Atlantic to increase levels of defense spending.
	I think the British certainly are beefing up their military power significantly.
	We have two brand new aircraft carriers now in operation.
	Britain wants to return to being a global power in the Brexit era.
	And we have to be willing to stand up to our adversaries, both Russia and China.
	What are you seeing in the rest of the European Union?
	We talked to Niall Gardner, director of the Thatcher Centre for Freedom at the Heritage Foundation.
	Follow him at Niall Gardner on Twitter.
	What are you seeing?
	Is there a hope that there could be a Polish version of Brexit or an Italian one?
	When you see the Germans getting in bed with Russia, could we see a reassertion of national sovereignty by others inside the EU?
	Yeah, and we're already seeing that.
	We're seeing that in countries in Eastern and Central Europe, especially Poland.
	We're seeing that in Hungary as well.
	And I think that what you are seeing within the European Union, the post-British EU, is the Eastern and Central European powers now standing up to Brussels.
	They've looked at the British example.
	They're not going to be bullied around or, you know, forced into kowtowing to, you know, European Union bureaucrats.
	And so I think you are seeing a significant split and division within the European Union.
	And in my view, I think that Brexit is just the beginning of fundamental changes that we will see across Europe in the coming decades.
	It's only a matter of time, I think, before another country in the EU exits.
	It may take some years.
	It may take five, ten years for that to happen.
	But I do think it's a strong possibility that you will see further European countries leaving the European Union because the EU is a supranational entity that tramples upon basic national sovereignty and freedoms.
	You cannot be a free country and be part of the European Union.
	And of course it is so telling that after the Brits, always a little bit different, the island nation, that it is countries like Poland and Hungary and others who lived under the boot of communism who understand that they want to be free again.
	We're talking to Niall Gardiner from the Heritage Foundation's Thatcher Center for Freedom.
	Join the Heritage Foundation today.
	We'll be back with Niall momentarily.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Can you get Casio to put up the longest video he can get of the Brit in Bucks County? - All right.
	Okay.
	Longer than that one?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And then same with Senator Black in Virginia.
	Or actually, can he do all of those cuts in one video?
	Like two to five?
	All the Virginia cuts.
	Put a big one up.
	What else is good today?
	What's the real kicker from today?
	I think Behar.
	Behar, yeah.
	Behar and that as well.
	Good.
	Alright.
	We're gonna come in with a cut from Maggie.
	Alright, Shad, that's saved.
	Or grab the Thatcher cut.
	Is it audio cut or video?
	It's video.
	Okay, hang on, let me get it real quick.
	Shad, the Boris audio is saved in the daily cuts.
	Yep, I got it.
	It's like seven minutes.
	Okay.
	Oh, actually, crap.
	You can do it in D. Yeah, I wanted to do the Hunter Biden story.
	Oh.
	It's up to you.
	We can play it tomorrow.
	Yeah, but didn't I mention with Jenna that I played it?
	Yeah, you did.
	So are you in the office?
	Did you go into Heritage?
	Actually, not in the office today.
	In fact, my office is under renovation.
	So, should be ready again shortly.
	A lot of rebuilding going on.
	I know, I know, because you're connecting and you're creating that new auditorium, correct?
	Yeah, all sorts of things, all sorts of projects are being underway.
	A lot of expansion.
	The old Johnson building, right?
	It used to be the old intern housing.
	Is that the intern housing?
	What is the Johnson?
	It used to be the intern housing, and now they're, I guess, re-appropriating it into more heritage offices and whatnot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Plus a conference center as well.
	Yeah, you'll finally have a decent sized auditorium.
	All right, 90 seconds, stand by.
	Coming in with a Thatcher cut.
	Yes.
	How's it going, Rumble?
	Oh, I can do it with Jennifer.
	I'll do Hunter Biden with Jennifer.
	Yeah, that'll work.
	Yeah, that's good.
	That's good.
	Yeah, that works.
	Yeah, she can have fun with that.
	I just can't believe it.
	One minute.
	What did she die as?
	Was she a Baroness?
	Yeah, Baroness Thatcher.
	Also known as Lady Thatcher.
	Lady, right.
	Yep.
	Stand by.
	Standing by.
	Chantelle and John who was arrested.
	Chantelle and John who was arrested.
	We were the first country to attempt and to succeed in rolling back the frontiers of socialism, which is the first cousin to communism.
	No one else tried it.
	We were the first to do it.
	I remember some politicians saying, well, what are you very careful, Mrs. Thatcher?
	To see if you succeed.
	God bless her.
	Baroness Lady Thatcher.
	She understood.
	And along with Ronald Reagan and blessed Saint John Paul II, they defeated the socialism on the other side of the Iron Curtain.
	Sadly, it's started to spread its wings in free countries like the UK and the United States.
	Gotta ask our friend who's the director of the Thatcher Center for Freedom at the Heritage Foundation.
	Join the Heritage Foundation today, heritage.org.
	Niall Gardiner, are you buoyed when you see the parents, the students, the teachers talking up at the school board meetings when you see more and more Americans that finally People are understanding who otherwise apolitical.
	This connection between socialism and communism and now the internal threat.
	Where do you see things moving?
	Well, a great interview there with Margaret Thatcher talking about rolling back the frontiers of socialism.
	And Margaret Thatcher emphatically defeated socialism in Britain.
	Unfortunately, we're seeing socialism reappearing on the international stage here in the United States, actually.
	We're seeing the American left adopting a lot of the principles of socialism.
	And we need to have that kind of Thatcherite fervor, too.
	To stand up to socialism here in the United States.
	Conservatives have got to stand up and be counted.
	They've got to take a stand against a vicious socialist ideology that will destroy freedom in America as we know it.
	The Brexit win in the UK was a huge blow as well to socialism in Europe.
	We need to see the defeat of socialism here in the United States, and we need to see, of course, conservatives standing up for and defending freedom of speech across the United States, not least, of course, on our university campuses and our schools as well.
	And we need to combat the left's insidious, extremely dangerous Uh, far left wing agenda, which actually in many ways is being supported by the Biden administration.
	I mean, this is the most left wing, uh, US administration, I think in American history.
	Uh, and, and Biden is basically going along with what the far left, uh, wants.
	And so these are perilous times, I think, for the free world, especially for the United States.
	If the United States doesn't lead the free world based upon the principles of freedom and liberty, then we're going to lose the free world.
	That that's for sure.
	And so it's up to the Conservatives now to fight, to fight to restore freedom in America.
	Isn't there something, wasn't there something, Niall?
	Trumpian.
	About Margaret Thatcher.
	Because I look at where she came from.
	She wasn't a member of the elite.
	She was a grocery store owner's daughter.
	She wasn't a politician.
	She was a professional chemist working in private industry.
	Wasn't there something to that true citizen politician that we see echoes of in the 45th president?
	Can we make that fair comparison?
	Well, Margaret Thatcher always used to say, you know, that in order to understand the British people, you had to listen to the beating heart of Middle England.
	And she was a politician who really understood the beating heart of the, you know, of the working British men and women.
	And she did not come from the political elites, as you pointed out.
	She was an outsider in every respect.
	She was a grocer's daughter.
	She worked In her father's grocer's shop.
	And she did not come from the kind of political elites that typically dominated the Conservative Party in those days.
	And she then set about demolishing the cohabitation between the political establishment of Britain with socialism, frankly.
	And she took an axe to socialism in the United Kingdom.
	Always understanding Her very humble roots, always looking back to her humble roots, and appealing, of course, to not only middle-class Conservative voters, but also to large numbers of working-class blue-collar voters in the United Kingdom who wanted to own their own homes.
	They wanted to have lower taxes.
	They didn't like big government on their backs.
	And she appealed to those voters, actually.
	And many of them, of course, have stayed with the Conservatives.
	Many of them, of course, supported Brexit.
	But she really understood the concerns of ordinary British people.
	And that's a testimony, I think, to Margaret Thatcher's tremendous courage, her leadership, and her character, and her understanding of the greatness of the British nation.
	That just came to me, that comparison.
	I think it does exist.
	She may have been the Iron Lady and we can, I think, refer to President Trump as the Iron Billionaire.
	He's Niall Gardiner.
	Follow him on Twitter right now.
	Happy Brexit anniversary to you.
	Join the Heritage Foundation, heritage.org.
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	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Good stuff.
	We'll send you the links later tonight.
	Thanks very much, Seb.
	Great to be on the show with you.
	Many thanks.
	Cheers.
	All the best.
	Thank you.
	Take care.
	Bye-bye.
	Thank you.
	Has anybody ever done an edit of The Bell?
	The Heritage Bell?
	Abducting a cow or something?
	The Conservative Mothership?
	Somebody will now.
	I know somebody on Rumble will do that.
	What do you come in with, Boris?
	Is it me asking the question?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	No, play it.
	Can you play the beginning and the end?
	I think it starts with his answer.
	Here's my perspective.
	Give me the end.
	Okay, give me the end.
	Oh, gosh.
	Okay, give me a second.
	But it is absolutely impossible.
	In my view, it's incorrect.
	Is it likely?
	I'm not necessarily saying that.
	Is it going to happen?
	Who knows the future?
	Who knows the future, okay.
	And how long is it?
	7 minutes and 8 seconds.
	7, 8, and I've got... No, no, it's a little longer than that.
	I've got 30 seconds each time.
	7, 18.
	Okay, good.
	I'll tee it up.
	And then I'll take calls.
	Lilibet can come on at 5.
	So it looks like Hunter's gonna get short shrift.
	Let's have her with Jen.
	Okay.
	Lilibet?
	Okay.
	And then... So who are we having in 2A?
	Cooper and...
	A guy called John.
	John, I... According to the Federalist... Yes, we'll have it before it lays on.
	Yeah, okay.
	And we doing those two separate phones?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's doable, I just want to know.
	Titles.
	Hang on a second.
	Let me just tell Jen.
	One minute. 40 seconds.
	40 seconds.
	All right, stand by.
	Did they confirm receipt of the audio, the Brits?
	I think it's...
	I never got anything back from them.
	I tagged you, or I CC'd you in that email, so I sent it.
	Vote Democrat.
	Don't be so bloody daft, man.
	I'd rather be dragged stark naked through a field of broken glass.
	To reinstate or not to reinstate, is it even possible?
	Well, guess what?
	The Baron, Boris, my co-host of the podcast, The Battle for 1600, has been making the rounds, a lot of news, because he said, yeah, maybe we could reinstate the president if we find the evidence of massive fraud.
	We just recorded an interview with him where I challenged him on that exact concept.
	Here is the Baron's response.
	Here's my perspective.
	The Constitution is a negative rights document.
	So, in the Constitution, there are certain provisions, right, that lay out specific rules, specific processes.
	There's also a lot of prohibitions, right?
	The First Amendment is a prohibition against the government abridging the freedom of speech, abridging freedom of religion against the establishment, so on and so forth, right?
	In being a negative rights document and having a Tenth Amendment that reserves all rights and powers, all not enumerated, to the states.
	The Constitution works in a way that if something is not mentioned in it, and it's not been ruled upon by the Supreme Court, it's by definition possible.
	Okay?
	For example, the Supreme Court says absolutely nothing about us doing a podcast together, right?
	Yet here we are doing a podcast.
	The Constitution and the Supreme Court also say absolutely nothing about, you know, the wedding case.
	From Colorado, right?
	Effectively, the gay marriage case that was so important in the Supreme Court ruling in terms of gay marriage and its standing.
	The way the Constitution works is that it either lays something out, prohibits it, or leaves open the possibility.
	So in terms of reinstatement, to say that, well, the Constitution doesn't have a process for it, the Constitution doesn't allow for it, Thereby it's impossible is, in my belief, a misreading of the Constitution.
	Now, am I saying that the reinstatement is definitely going to happen?
	No, what I'm saying is that it's a mistake to say it's impossible.
	What I'm saying is that after the first step is we've got to get the receipts out of Arizona, out of Georgia, which is absolutely blowing up, out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, all the places we know there was widespread election fraud.
	Let's get the information.
	The next step likely would be A decertification of the electors by a state like Arizona.
	Then I actually think the Democrats would bring a suit and say, well, you cannot decertify.
	And at that point, there's going to be a legal case and it would go to the Supreme Court.
	That's one of several ways it could go.
	Point being is that there's no prohibition against reinstatement.
	Is it specifically laid out?
	Absolutely not.
	But there's no prohibition against it.
	Thereby, it has to be an open question.
	Thereby, it would be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
	All we can say is, as the President says, President Trump says, we'll see what happens.
	Okay, so here's my pushback as a layman, okay?
	But as a person who looks at the Constitution, understands the precedent of the last, you know, 200 odd years.
	Number one, yes, the Constitution is an enumeration of things that cannot be done by the government, okay?
	Absolutely, I understand that.
	But there is a common sense application of that.
	The Constitution may not say that a president cannot be reinstated, But that doesn't mean that it is possible because the Constitution doesn't say that I cannot declare myself the Emperor of Mars.
	I can declare myself the Emperor of Mars.
	So what?
	I could say I'm a bowl of petunias.
	That's not forbidden by the Constitution.
	Doesn't mean I can become a bowl of petunias.
	In fact, it is impossible for me to become a bowl of petunias or the Emperor of Mars.
	Did you become a woman?
	No!
	I can't become a word, right?
	So the idea that just because it doesn't say, therefore it's possible, I think there's a common sense moment where that kind of is challenged and breaks down.
	Secondly, if I look at the actual mechanisms, the Constitution is explicit.
	That a president can only be removed from office through an impeachment, which requires the House to bring charges by a simple majority, and then a two-thirds of a supermajority in the Senate to actually remove him from office.
	So there is the question of the mechanisms.
	OK, you decertify.
	Let's say four states decertify their votes.
	So what?
	That doesn't instantly create any electoral college magically out of thin air to have a retallying of the votes.
	There is no new safe harbor date for a second electoral college after the first one has been called.
	And then the last one is just a question of realpolitik in the current environment.
	If the Supreme Court are such a bunch of cowards, bar two people, and we know who they are, that they don't even hear the case that Texas brought with 16 or 17 other states with regard to the last election.
	On original jurisdiction.
	On original jurisdiction, which is absolutely unbelievable that they did that.
	The idea that The courts or the Supreme Court are somehow going to fall in line now and do something far, far more controversial than hearing a case on standing, but actually reinstating a president.
	I just don't buy it.
	Your response, Barron?
	So on number three, I agree with you.
	I think that's a tall order.
	And I think specifically this Supreme Court, that's a tall order.
	That does not contradict my larger point, right?
	So number three, we tend to agree on, but my perspective is, That it could get to the Supreme Court, and my point is that it is not explicitly unconstitutional.
	It will be up to the Supreme Court to decide.
	So that's number three, right?
	In terms of your second point, where it does lay out a process, yes, it does lay out a process, and there is a process for impeachment.
	Now, it actually doesn't say it's the only process.
	There is a process for impeachment in there.
	And the bigger question really then becomes this, right?
	Incontrovertible evidence of fraud.
	Of very specific, overwhelming fraud through which Joe Biden became president.
	Can there really not be a way to cure that?
	I'm not so sure.
	Describe it.
	As a lawyer, describe what that mechanism would be.
	Here's the potential lawsuit.
	The potential lawsuit would be this.
	Democrats would sue against decertification.
	say, state of Arizona is decertifying, and say it's the state Senate, right, the reply would, hey, okay, we're going to decertify.
	And then the state legislators, and again, this is my perspective here, right, but one plausible way would be for the state legislators to say, we now call on the House to retaliate electoral votes based on what the actual certification, after the fraud's been uncovered, we now call on the House to retaliate electoral votes based on And who controls the House?
	It would go to the original rules, right?
	So it would go to the rules where it goes by delegation.
	It would be the same as if it happened on January 20th, or January 15th, or January 6th, when it was originally counted.
	By delegation, Republicans control the House.
	Now, this is such an unprecedented time.
	Who knows how anybody would vote?
	But that's a political question.
	We are now way beyond the line where I was, which is saying that to To position it as, this can never happen, it is absolutely impossible, in my view, is incorrect.
	Is it likely?
	I'm not necessarily saying that.
	Is it going to happen?
	Who knows the future?
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	I think Dr. McCullough won't mind if I play all these Loudoun County cuts through our interview, right? - That's good.
	Doctor, did you hear this?
	Let me share this with you.
	What about this one?
	Or this one?
	Or that one?
	It really is insane, though, when I saw the story that they literally arrested two parents.
	I'm like, oh, this is just... I'm sorry, I just, the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office is like, seriously?
	Seriously?
	That's a whole new level.
	But there's a great continuation of the Bucks County guy.
	He says, I can be rude to you.
	I have the constitutional right to be rude to you.
	He's absolutely right.
	Oh man.
	So good.
	Can you come in with Cup 4?
	Cut four, yes.
	Forty-two seconds long.
	Oh, this is already E. Yeah.
	Did you see the read that I included in today's rundown?
	The tree one?
	Uh, I believe so, yes.
	That's audio only for the podcast.
	So, whatever.
	And by the end of the week, so no immediate rush.
	It's hard to tell.
	Oh, I see.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, the font's really small, but again, it's audio only, not video.
	Mm-hmm.
	Hello, Rumblers.
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	Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
	Coming in with cut four.
	No disclaimer, Shad?
	No disclaimer.
	What?
	I thought there was always a disclaimer.
	Well, we don't have that.
	What?
	What?
	Standby.
	We go through feasts and famines.
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	Wow.
	This is America.
	Now I wish I were there.
	That was the meeting of the Loudoun County School Board last night where two patriots were arrested when they tried to shut down the debate.
	What did they do?
	They sang.
	They sang our anthem.
	God bless them.
	We're going to have two of those brave people here with us on the next hour of America First, as well as Dr. Peter McCullough, who is a truth teller on COVID.
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	Let's go to Mark who's been waiting very patiently in New Jersey.
	Mark, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, and congratulations to our British cousins for declaring their freedom, and to the parents of our country for pushing back at school board meetings of this CRT critical race theory, which is child abuse.
	But my point is this.
	Speaking of crime, as Mr. Biden's going to address, Crime that's out of control in every Democrat city.
	A 31-year-old female graduate student of criminology was just stabbed to death in Chicago, where police are not allowed to chase criminals, courtesy of Ms.
	Lightfoot, Lori Lightfoot's defund the police policy.
	And Biden and Harris have failed, sir.
	They have failed in their primary duty of protecting the people of our country by knowingly, knowingly letting in and deliberately allowing criminals, drug dealers, and deadly fentanyl drugs to come over our border, over the Mexican border, unchecked.
	Not only that, Mark, why should anybody be surprised?
	We're talking about an individual in the personage of the current Vice President who helped fundraise For the violent radicals of Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
	They have no respect.
	You are just a number.
	You're just a taxpayer.
	And if you are a Republican, you are the enemy to these people.
	And yes, you are right, Mark.
	They are endangering all of us.
	But we will not let them get away with it.
	Next, two of the patriots from the Loudoun County School Board meeting and Dr. Peter McCullough here on America
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	throwing Madam Chair, I move to end public comment.
	Second.
	There's been a motion to end public comment.
	Is there a second?
	I second.
	Motion made by Ms.
	Reaser and seconded by Ms.
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	The motion carries 9-0.
	Public comment is now ended.
	we will move to our next agenda item.
	Public comment is now ended.
	And I am livid, Apoplectic that even the Republican on the board said, no more we shut it down, the fake Republican that he is.
	But America is fighting back and we have with us once again that incredible warrior princess who was there last night at the Loudoun County School Board meeting.
	I don't think it went the way the board expected.
	She's Chantel Cooper.
	Chantel, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you for having me.
	All right, so a couple of arrests last night.
	We'll get to that momentarily.
	But first things first, how many people were there?
	What was the atmosphere?
	How many were patriots and how many were bust in CRT promoting radicals?
	Well, the room was filled with lots of patriots, so it was more inspirational than what people may see.
	There were some, a few, bust in, but it wasn't that many as we thought, or their strategy failed.
	But otherwise than that, you know, there were some, there were two arrests, but we're not going to look at that as, you know, as a bad thing.
	It actually made us stronger.
	So I understand that hundreds, maybe 240, 250 people applied for their one minute to talk and only think 50 were allowed on the list.
	Tell us about who spoke and what was said about you, the nasty attacks on the Patriots.
	Give us a sense of what went on yesterday, that incredible meeting.
	Well, one of the activists had stood up and stated that there was hate was dripping from the followers of Jesus in this room.
	And that's one thing that we conservatives or any loving patriot wants to express.
	We do not have anything against the LGBT community.
	We love all.
	Um, so once they, uh, the meeting got interrupted with the applause of, uh, her comment, you know, we, we kind of, we stood up and we stood our ground with, Hey, there should be no hate.
	You know, reference towards one another.
	But Chantal, as somebody who's spoken out before and very, very bravely, the hatred is in what you are responding to.
	The critical race theory, the bigotry they are teaching in the schools, that's where the hatred is, is it not?
	It is.
	What they're doing is putting us against one another.
	And right now, We have to figure out a new strategy to communicate with the LGBT that's coming into the school system that are acting as activists.
	Yeah, as AstroTurf.
	Well, your friend, who you very kindly connected us with, was one of the two people arrested by the disgraceful actions of the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office.
	His name is John Tiggs, and he's on the line.
	Mr. Tiggs, welcome to America First.
	Really appreciate being here, Dr. Borca.
	So, tell us what happened to you last night.
	Tell us about the meeting and what happened to you.
	Well, the simple answer is I got arrested for trespassing, but... Hang on, hang on.
	This is a public... This is the board, which runs the public schools, which we pay for.
	How were you trespassing, Mr. Tiggs?
	Yeah, you're on to it already.
	I mean, it was a public forum that we were invited to in a public building on public land, in which I had a slot to give public comment.
	Oh, so you were one of the people who got on the list?
	Yes, I was number 170.
	So what happened?
	Why did the police arrest you?
	Walk us through it.
	Well, As you noted already, I don't think we even got through 50.
	It was highly skewed up front to the left, interestingly enough.
	And then once people that really did care about students and had a parent's perspective started speaking, They found reasons to shut it down.
	First, because people didn't like being insulted by someone saying that they hated everyone.
	And then, secondarily, retired Senator Dick Black spoke very forcefully.
	And people spontaneously applauded, like you would do.
	It's just natural.
	And applause, apparently, was considered disruptive.
	And they immediately called the vote that you played.
	Go ahead.
	So, applauding former State Senator Dick Black was deemed disruptive?
	And is that why they tried to shut it down?
	They didn't try.
	They did.
	They immediately called the vote.
	And as you noted, even the Republicans voted in favor.
	It was shocking.
	They left, and people were left going, what do we do?
	And you may have seen some scenes of people singing and doing other things.
	Yes, we played the anthem being sung by all of you.
	It was beautiful.
	It was beautiful, but nobody left at that point.
	But everyone was just in shock that they had walked out based upon someone applauding.
	And having a front row seat and actually praying for a moment just said, what can we do?
	And it struck me that there's nothing keeping people from continuing to speak.
	So we just simply got up and said, folks, don't leave.
	We're going to orderly speak.
	Anyone that wanted to speak, we're going to speak.
	So you're in a public building for a public hearing that they prematurely closed, and you wanted to exercise your First Amendment rights, and you were therefore arrested.
	Well, first, we tried to speak and continue.
	They totally noted that this was going to go till 7 p.m.
	It was about 530 at that point.
	That building was not, that particular room was not going to be used for any other purpose that they had denoted.
	So people stayed and started speaking.
	Chantelle spoke, other people spoke, young people spoke, and it was completely peaceful and orderly until someone on the left decided out in the back of it to have a disruption.
	Don't even know what happened for sure.
	I can tell you definitively that the lady that was involved with it was a disrupter because she accused me of grabbing her rear end in a line and with my hands in my pocket.
	She was looking for a fight.
	Yeah.
	And at that point, the superintendent came out and said, I'm declaring this an unlawful assembly and you need to leave.
	The superintendent of schools.
	Dr. Sieg Heil Ziegler, yes.
	He declared it illegal?
	That's interesting.
	I don't know if a superintendent of schools can declare things illegal.
	We're talking to John Tiggs and also Chantal Cooper.
	Don't go anywhere, but you, our millions of listeners and viewers, need to hear what retired state senator Dick Black said, which is why they shut down this public meeting.
	Cut to.
	Play cut.
	I'm retired Senator Dick Black of Ashburn, Virginia.
	You retaliated against Tanner Cross by yanking him from teaching for addressing a public hearing of this board.
	The judge ordered you to reinstate Mr. Cross because if his comments were not protected speech, then free speech does not exist at all.
	It's absurd and immoral for teachers to call boys girls and girls boys.
	You're making teachers lie to students, and even kids know that it's wrong.
	This board has a dark history of suppressing free speech.
	They caught you red-handed with an enemies list to punish opponents of critical race theory.
	You're teaching children to hate others because of their skin color, and you're forcing them to lie about other kids' gender.
	I am disgusted by your bigotry.
	Joe Mobley to be followed by Donna Russell.
	Just the arrogance in their voice when they shut down that man speaking the truth.
	And I'm going to say right now, the Republican on the committee, John Beatty is his name.
	He agreed to shut down that meeting.
	It is an utter disgrace.
	Last literally second, seconds to end this segment, John Teagues, are you going to keep on fighting?
	Oh, absolutely.
	This is not a one battle war.
	We're in it for the long haul.
	God bless you.
	Follow him right now on Twitter at John Tiggs, T-I-G-G-E-S.
	That's J-O-N T-I-G-G-E-S.
	If you need help, let's reach out to him.
	Let's help this man.
	Chantal, are you going to keep fighting?
	Of course.
	With that, you can tell she's smiling.
	She's got that right smile because she's a mama bear.
	Follow her right now, Chantal Cooper, S-H-A-W-N-T-E-L, Cooper.
	We need you in studio.
	Will you guys come in studio?
	Yes, would love to.
	Let's do it.
	God bless you both.
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	We have a guest for Thursday.
	That's the first, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you want me to try to get Chantel in next week when Lillette comes in?
	Yes!
	Yes!
	Alright.
	For an hour.
	Let's do that.
	Okay.
	Okay, ringing on the other end.
	Dr. McCullough, can you hear us?
	Yes, I can.
	Okay.
	Audio sounds kind of muffled.
	Can you keep talking, please?
	Okay.
	Testing.
	One, two, three.
	Testing.
	One, two, three.
	That's better.
	Excellent.
	Are you standing?
	Are you going to stand for the whole interview?
	Yeah, I'm going to stand.
	I've been sitting all day.
	That's okay.
	That's fine.
	Just so you know, Dr. McCollum, the mics are live.
	No, they're not.
	Switch the mics off.
	Skype's got to be on.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So it's live radio going out to 3 million people, also live streaming.
	We're just going to do three segments.
	I want your first response on how you grade the last year in terms of health policy, and then we'll work through the issues.
	90 seconds to live.
	Should I shut off my video?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	because we're streaming video as well.
	Okay.
	Shortly.
	All right.
	One minute standby.
	So we're doing another guest in 3A?
	Lilit, yeah.
	Okay.
	With Jen.
	50 seconds.
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	One of the teachers.
	One of the good guys.
	So don't go anywhere.
	It's an amazing day for news here on America First.
	And now we're going to talk to an individual who's been a truth teller When it comes to the awful, awful events of the last year plus, the deadliest export from China that has killed millions across the globe, he is a professor of medicine at Texas A&M.
	He is Dr. Peter McCullough.
	Professor Dr. McCullough, welcome to America First.
	Well, thanks for having me.
	Doctor, if we treat the last year as a body, as a patient, if you would, how would you rate the nation's response?
	How would you grade our response to the coronavirus in terms of health policy?
	What we did to prevent as much illness as possible?
	What is the holistic scenario?
	Well, let me take the good parts of that first.
	What I think we did well compared to other countries, I think we really led the world in testing.
	With the government, the private, public partnerships, our ability to get rapid testing, PCR testing, antigen testing, as well as antibody testing was really terrific.
	You know, some countries still lag in terms of having rapid tests.
	Canada, just north of us, for instance, as an outpatient, it can take a week or more to get a result.
	Even an inpatient in Canada takes two days to get a result.
	Standard of care in the United States is we get the answer in about 10 minutes.
	So, testing we did very good on.
	I would say the other thing that we have done well on is our hospitals had the resources they needed.
	We heard about ventilator shortages, we heard about staffing shortages, but the hospitals...
	I think that's been a real plus.
	I think our Departments of Community Health have done really well with contract tracing, trying to have testing centers, and trying that part of the public health response.
	I give good marks for those.
	And then when you look at the more negative aspects, what are the biggest failings in the last year, Dr. McCullough?
	Well, we'll go back to testing for a second.
	Testing should have always been limited to just those who are acutely symptomatic.
	That's all the tests were ever approved for by the US FDA.
	So we should have not allowed any asymptomatic testing.
	And once asymptomatic testing started, it was unbridled Because, in a sense, it was provided free.
	Patients didn't have to pay for it in institutions.
	And so, you started seeing testing of NBA basketball players, and people at school, and government buildings, and travel.
	All of that testing is not scientific.
	It's not supported in the regulatory applications.
	It's not supported by the agencies.
	And if you could ask me, I'd stop it all tomorrow.
	Our case count in the United States would be reduced by about 40% if we just stopped the asymptomatic testing.
	That was an area that went bad.
	Another area that went bad, the big missing piece was early treatment.
	We didn't stay on early treatment.
	Now, granted, that was really the responsibilities of the doctors, but the doctors who innovated and provided early treatment really didn't receive agency support whatsoever.
	The federal government initially did the right thing.
	They brought in a stockpile of hydroxychloroquine.
	What we didn't do is we didn't operationalize it into multi-drug protocols, which we now use today, and I know you've had it yourself, taking hydroxychloroquine.
	So did I.
	to treat COVID-19.
	Anybody over age 50 should have a multi-drug protocol to reduce the risk of hospitalization and death.
	Doctors had to do that independently in order to provide that early treatment response.
	Let me ask at this point, because I took hydroxychloroquine, why was there this seeming utter rejection of established drugs that could be used early on that were generic, were cheap, like ivermectin, like hydroxychloroquine, why was there this seeming utter rejection of established drugs that could be used early on that were generic, were cheap, like ivermectin, like What are the risks of the drug that
	What is the possible explanation, Dr. McCullough?
	Well, I think a lot of it was fear that, you know, we didn't have the certainty of large randomized trials.
	So we had to use the precautionary principle that we think it works and it has an acceptable safety.
	You know, remdesivir could be given in the safety of a hospital where patients could be monitored and I'm glad they were because remdesivir has liver toxicity that really limits the five-day infusion of remdesivir.
	But I think it was the uncertainty of not having large randomized trials Having an unbridled situation where doctors were not seeing patients face-to-face, they were trying to do it over telemedicine, and we just didn't have a congealing of academic doctors, community practice doctors, and the agencies to say, listen, we need to go with the best multi-drug protocol possible, and that's where a lot of us just independently did it.
	And the idea that we quarantined whole nations and we locked away healthy people, is that what the medical science encourages with other viruses?
	No, it's not.
	And you can think about this, Dr. Gorka, from the very beginning.
	If we just would have focused on sick people and anybody who wasn't sick, leave them alone.
	No lockdown, no masks, just focus on the sick person and quarantining the sick person, treating the sick people, Then it would have been much more focused.
	We've only had, let's say, 40 million Americans who got the illness over the course of a year and, you know, three months.
	We could have actually been much more targeted with respect to what we did.
	Instead, it was so diffuse.
	Everybody wearing a mask.
	Everybody in lockdown.
	You know, some schools closed.
	Some schools opened.
	It was really helter-skelter in terms of pandemic response.
	If we would have put the sick patient first, we would have done better on all accounts.
	And then my experience, which is of course anecdotal, but I found it so strange that I got tested for COVID just out of precaution because my wife wanted me to go and see her mother and she's in her 80s, so we just out of precaution.
	I felt fine and I tested positive and I ended up, because of my hydroxychloroquine, having three days where I felt mildly fluey.
	But when the doctor who did the test, and it was a doctor at a local quick clinic, saw that I was positive, he said, here's your result, I'm sorry you're positive, and he said, this was the extent of his medical advice to me, just go home.
	This is supposed to be a big boogeyman, and I've heard many tales like that.
	Is that how you defeat a novel coronavirus?
	Go home?
	Well, it's not how you defeat a fatal illness.
	What we've learned is that risk stratification was possible.
	Not everybody was at risk for dying or being hospitalized.
	Those under age 50 with no medical problems, they had a way less than 1% chance of ever having a bad outcome.
	In fact, we don't treat them.
	It's people over 50 who start to accrue medical problems.
	That's where there is a calculable risk of ending up in the hospital or dying.
	Those are the two bad outcomes.
	So the virus we learned early on was amenable to risk stratification.
	That was a huge advance.
	So you were told to go home.
	The problem there is, and then do what?
	It's the only potentially fatal illness so far that we do that.
	If you would have had pneumococcal pneumonia, Dr. Gorka, you would have been told to go on two different antibiotics.
	If it was going to be a bladder or urinary infection, you would have had a certain approach.
	Asthma, you would have had inhaler and steroids.
	This is the only illness where you go home with nothing.
	No follow-up, no suggestion, no instructions.
	That was the topic of my Texas Senate testimony about let's get it in gear and get information to patients.
	I have so many, many more questions, but that's okay.
	He's not going anywhere.
	Professor of medicine at Texas A&M, a man who not only knows the truth, is prepared to speak it publicly.
	We need a lot more of that in this country and across Western civilization.
	Dr. Peter McCullough, Professor McCullough.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network, coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios, wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
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	Whilst we have this little break, let me ask you, ventilators, Was that a huge mistake, the aggressive use of ventilators?
	Yeah, you know, I can make a general comment that the early intubation and use of mechanical ventilators turned out to be a mistake.
	It was actually designed to try to control spread of the virus, but we had far too many people get on the ventilator and it's hard to get off.
	Right, and often used at too late a stage, correct?
	Right, right.
	What we learned is we can actually use oxygen in the home.
	The most important thing, honestly, when the oxygen goes low is blood thinners.
	That's a sign of micro blood clotting.
	The guidance was to use remdesivir.
	Well, it's too late.
	The virus is long gone.
	It's blood clotting at that stage.
	Yeah.
	Have you found some explanation?
	I'm just curious because, look, I wasn't worried.
	I'm relatively healthy.
	I'd been taking prophylactic hydroxy for eight months before I caught the virus.
	But I'm trying to find an explanation.
	Why would a doctor, I understand if it's a nurse practitioner or somebody at a clinic, why would a doctor, after I test positive and he walks in with the test result, Why were so many people told, go home?
	Where did that come from?
	Just go home.
	Honestly, I gave up COVID-19 myself.
	I was in a room.
	She tested me.
	She literally opened the door.
	She opened the back door and like kind of threw me out.
	I would know with no plan.
	My wife had the same experience in another clinic.
	I've never seen anything like it before in my life.
	I guess I would chalk it up to this kind of global fear.
	You're so strange, so utterly strange.
	I can tell you, I never did that.
	I never did that.
	When patients call me, positive test result, I immediately jumped into a protocol.
	I personally never did that.
	My personal physician first was a super fan of hydroxy with zinc and vitamin D, vitamin E. And now he says that The Ivermectin is even more powerful.
	Is that your experience?
	Yeah, I think Ivermectin is very versatile and it's well tolerated.
	You know, I got sick and I developed pulmonary involvement.
	All I had in the house was Ivermectin and it didn't do much for me.
	And then I got in a protocol on hydroxy.
	When I first dose of hydroxy, I had a high fever.
	I was having trouble breathing.
	Hydroxy had an amazing effect.
	And I took it for 10 days and I would not miss a dose, let me tell you what.
	It turned out to be the drug.
	President Trump had the right idea and the people who brought it in.
	We just didn't mobilize it like other countries did.
	What's the function or the dynamic?
	Do they both make it harder for the virus to penetrate the cell?
	What's going on there?
	Yeah.
	Hydroxy impairs the virus's ability to travel through the cell, through endosomes, and then ivermectin blocks the entry into the nucleus.
	Ivermectin also blunts some of the spike protein.
	The gain-of-function spike protein is what causes damage.
	So, the Brazilians and the Brazilian variant, they use the two drugs together.
	And they've actually... Wow!
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Alright.
	30 seconds and we are back.
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	We are back with Dr. Professor Peter McCullough of Texas A&M.
	Professor McCullough, I have to ask you,
	Something that really shocked me when one of my colleagues in California told me that because of some strange political reaction from governors, from medical associations, from the legacy media, when the president said the words hydroxychloroquine could be a game-changing drug, one which we have issued to our soldiers in Vietnam, has been demonstrated for 70 years to be very effective
	Effective with malaria and other conditions.
	When that statement was made by the president, a friend of mine was prescribed it in California, Dr. McCullough, and he had to go to six different pharmacies because the first five refused to fill his legally prescribed prescription.
	Have we ever seen this in America?
	And how dangerous is that?
	You know, we've never seen it, and the CDC published hydroxychloroquine use data, and in the spring, there actually was a giant rise in the use of hydroxychloroquine last year.
	That's actually probably what kept our epidemic curve down.
	If you look at the epidemic curves, last spring was pretty mild, while Italy was getting slammed.
	So hydroxychloroquine, as we now know, there's 200 studies.
	The vast majority are supported, but it's used early.
	In India, the Indian Medical Council just said, listen, we're using hydroxychloroquine.
	And I'd point your listeners to a publication that came out later in the year, and the first author's last name is Barry, Michael Barry, and he published a paper about political influence of hydroxychloroquine.
	And it turns out, the negative papers that were published in the literature, hydroxychloroquine doesn't work, or we don't like hydroxychloroquine, tended to be from, believe it or not, democratic leaning doctors and other experts, and those who were for hydroxychloroquine were Republican.
	So there was politicization of hydroxychloroquine. - Wasn't there also a larger issue, if we look at social media, for example, of just rank censorship of medical information?
	Not just, you know, originally the idea that this could have escaped from the Level 4 bioweapons lab in Wuhan, but in general that there was this censoriousness we've never witnessed before in terms of the handling of a public health crisis.
	It's true.
	It became sensationalized.
	In 2017, there was a pandemic planning symposium held at Johns Hopkins, and it was called the SPARS pandemic.
	It predicted this would happen in the year 2025 to 2028.
	It was going to be a three-year experience, and it was going to be a coronavirus.
	It was going to be related to MERS and SARS.
	There was going to be confusion around a drug initially, i.e.
	hydroxychloroquine, and then everything would be organized to a primary response, which is going to be vaccination.
	So Johns Hopkins predicted this in 2017, and that document was on the internet.
	They quickly published their findings when this whole thing started, and Johns Hopkins finished the scoreboard up
	In terms of mortality and test positive cases very quickly, I think that worked to kind of electrify a lot of fear and people turned on the news every day and the scoreboard was up in the upper right hand corner and it kept mounting every day and so that put America into a grip of fear and what we really needed all the way through is an organized medical approach that really focused on sick people, treating people, having people understand that they could get through it without being put into hospital isolation or dying.
	Yes, of course, and we look at the figures.
	Thousands, thousands who died in New York alone.
	Why?
	Because they were sent from hospital back to the old age care facilities that were not in a position to help them.
	And that's how they died.
	We're talking to Dr. Professor Peter McCullough, Texas A&M.
	We will continue the discussion.
	I have so many things I've written down.
	I have to ask him.
	I'm trying to get to most of them.
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	how has it been for you if i may ask the the backlash for uh speaking out publicly on the things you know to be true dr You know, I haven't been directly criticized.
	I did have to make a change in my practice at Baylor, so I was the vice chairman of medicine.
	I had administrative duties, but my practice really grew over the last year, and now I'm primarily in clinical practice, and I'm a professor at the medical school.
	I teach students and residents, so I guess it influenced me professionally that way, but honestly, I needed it because I became so involved in the pandemic response in order to organize it, so it just worked out.
	And what was your specialty inside teaching?
	Do you have an area of focus?
	Both internal medicine and cardiology.
	So I maintain my boards there.
	I focus on the heart and the kidneys.
	That's my area of research.
	I'm very glad you joined us today.
	One more segment and then we will release you.
	But I can tell you, Dr. Bourke, in the last year, I feel like I did a virology-immunology fellowship in the lab.
	I think a lot of us did.
	A lot of us did.
	Because in the beginning, people outside of the medical profession, we had no idea.
	So we trusted the vaunted experts, and then we did a little bit of research.
	Well, I told Laura Ingraham on Monday, I said, Laura, mention Mueller's ratchet.
	See if he was going to pull it off.
	It's an epidemiological principle.
	And she went for it.
	It was great.
	Mueller's ratchet.
	Explain that.
	We have 90 seconds.
	It's when the virus gets to an evolutionary bottleneck and it can't, it's not getting anywhere.
	It triple mutated with the Delta variant and became less deadly but more infectious and it got past the bottleneck.
	And it did fulfill the criteria.
	And I told Laura, I said, go for it because you'll beat all the CNN doctors.
	And she went for it on Monday.
	It was great.
	You're Liz Ratched.
	We'll have to think of something else to use next time.
	I love it.
	You can dazzle your listeners.
	All right, we'll talk about mortality rates, masks, and then the thing that galls me the most about all of this, and that's just the wanton ignorance.
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	You know when you know you're doing good radio.
	Swen, you don't want to talk.
	You just want to listen to your guests.
	That's the case right now.
	Dr. Peter McCullough, Professor of Medicine, Texas A&M.
	You recognize his face.
	He's been on my show on Newsmax.
	He's a truth teller.
	He's a medical professional.
	Dr. McCullough, if I may, first things first, very concretely, just tell us the truth.
	How dangerous is COVID-19?
	What are the actual mortality rates?
	The mortality rates are strictly related to age and the number of medical problems.
	Age under 50, the mortality rates are way less than 1%.
	In young people under 30, it's basically unheard of unless they present with severe symptoms and it's always treatable.
	But I can tell you, you get somebody in their 80s or 90s, you could have a mortality rate of 10 or 15 or 20%.
	So, it's clearly age-dependent and adding on medical comorbidities.
	The CDC originally had estimates back in March, and I pulled them, as well as some other people publishing elsewhere, that our expected mortality rate was going to be between 1.7 and 2.1 million Americans, okay?
	We ended up rounding out around 600,000 Americans.
	Many of them came from the 2.7 million seniors in senior homes that we have.
	We've lost several hundred thousand But fortunately, the early day after the U.S. Senate hearings led by a big treatment, we crushed the curves and we limited our mortality.
	It wasn't obviously it wasn't zero, but it was down to about 600,000.
	Now, the CDC has put fairly in their website that less than 10 percent of people die only of COVID, meaning there's other medical illnesses that are on the causal pathway to death.
	Commonly heart failure, emphysema, lung disease, diabetes, obesity.
	So so so perhaps you are as incensed as I am.
	And it is very hard, very hard for me.
	I'm a layman, but I've done my due diligence in the last year.
	I am incensed.
	When to this day, to this day, I live next to a beautiful large playground and I walk my dogs every day past the playground when I see healthy young couples walking their child to the playground who looks otherwise healthy and they have masks on their faces.
	You don't need to comment on the lack of general due diligence by lay people around America.
	But talk to us, if you would, about COVID-19 and children or anybody under the age of 10, Dr. McCullough.
	Well, you could probably see individuals driving with their masks on, no one else in the car.
	You know, the Chinese actually were teaching us and our public health officials weren't listening to the Chinese.
	The Chinese published papers showing that the virus doesn't spread asymptomatically.
	So you just can't walk up to somebody and mystically give them the virus.
	The Chinese also showed us it doesn't transmit through the air outside.
	It was beautiful studies from Singapore saying, listen, it can't happen.
	It makes sense.
	The virus gets diffused in the air.
	So, our public health officials, I'll never forget, I turned on CNN one time, and they were giving people a hard time because they were jogging outside in San Francisco on the Embarcadero.
	I was saying, give me a break, people need to get some exercise.
	Laura Ingram had a show where this poor girl was running a race, like a 1,000-meter race, and she keels over at the end wearing a mask because they were making her wear a mask.
	And what we needed from our public health officials, to be honest with you, is we needed real doctors who treat patients, who actually have some clinical understanding what's going on, and to make reasonable, common-sense recommendations.
	We never should have closed the schools, never should have had people wear masks outside, or even get close to that.
	The people wearing masks, maybe doctors and dentists and people wearing, you know, coming in close contact.
	Okay, I don't fight it.
	I wear a mask every day at the hospital.
	It's not a big deal.
	I wear it in the operating room anyway.
	But this idea of just people, like a mask became to symbolize the grip of fear that this virus had over America.
	So on that issue exactly, when it comes to the levels of fear, What is your greatest concern when you look at the way various countries have dealt with this, the Scandinavian countries and others, the Asian countries that had very early lockdowns?
	The next time there's a COVID-21 or there's some other potential pandemic, what are you as a medical professional who's in the trenches most concerned of, Dr. McCullough?
	I am most concerned about this group psychology of fear and I think our psychologists really need to help us with this one.
	We had so many seniors and people that spent months in solitary isolation in nursing homes.
	What I would do if I was running the show is I'd have a weekly review of the data and I would divide it into contagion control with respect to the four pillars, early treatment, hospital treatment, And in herd immunity or vaccination, I would have had a four-pillar approach.
	We'd have weekly updates.
	We just put our operational people into this and let's hear from the contagion control.
	And if masks or hand sanitizers turn out to be, you know, limited in use, we'll limit them.
	Early treatment, we should have had focused updates every week and learn from outside.
	Hospital treatment, We learned, for instance, patients were being put on the ventilator too early, and if we could have had a more coordinated response, we would have had fewer people on the ventilator, never would have been any ventilator shortages, and we would have front-lined some of our innovative drugs instead of kind of being caught up in the academic debate on remdesivir versus convalescent plasma versus loranlumab or what have you.
	And then lastly, on the vaccine, that's perfectly fine, but we had way too much focus on the vaccine, and people were basically told Wait in fear, wear a mask for month after month after month and wait for the vaccine.
	And I think that literally just created a one year of fear.
	The kids lost a year of school.
	Seniors lost potentially a year of their life and certainly a year in the family.
	We closed down houses of worship.
	We had lots of natural history experiments.
	You know the schools that stayed open in Dallas were no different than the independent school district that shut down.
	No difference.
	So we need to learn from this in the future and come up with much more practical approach.
	Real doctors working in teams who have experience with patients and experience in public health and we need international collaboration.
	When was the last time you saw a panel of US doctors and international doctors exchanging ideas on TV?
	Haven't seen it in a year.
	I have 10 seconds left.
	It's a kind of yes or no question.
	Is it possible, Dr. McCullough, that the damage done to America when it comes to cancers not diagnosed, diabetes not diagnosed, the psychological damage done to young children could be greater than the death toll of COVID?
	I don't think so, but it's going to be substantial.
	It's going to be substantial.
	He's Dr. Professor Peter McCullough of the Texas A&M University, Professor of Medicine.
	Thank you so much for what you do.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Wow.
	Did you know that?
	Did you know that?
	Yes, I did know that.
	That's the thing that... Did you know that, Eric?
	It has been proven empirically.
	Yes!
	That's a scientist.
	Did you know that, Jeff?
	I do a great job.
	I was not listening.
	See, I knew he'd have... He can rely on Jeff.
	He is reliable.
	You have nothing to do in this segment.
	What do you mean?
	As in like... I can just sit here like this.
	He has radio to do, Shad.
	Um... He'd be like, hey guys, we're just taking a break.
	Have we got a show?
	Yeah, yeah, just, I'll get back to you.
	I'll get back to you.
	Um, Bowser... Talk about credit cards.
	You ever use your father's credit card?
	I gotta talk about that in B. I gotta talk about that.
	Breaking news.
	Breaking news.
	Tragic.
	John McAfee has died.
	Wait, seriously?
	Wow.
	He was found dead in his cell in a Spanish prison.
	He was in prison?
	He was literally- He's been in prison for a while.
	Just today, hours before his death, was approved for extradition to the United States.
	Wow.
	He's a looney tune.
	Before McAfee didn't kill himself.
	The top of the hour.
	I think I found the Trump cut you were talking about.
	Was it with Larry King?
	And no.
	But if it's similar, let me hear it.
	Loudoun County.
	We did all of the Loudoun County except one, right?
	We haven't done five.
	Shame on you.
	Shame on you.
	Want to come in with anything?
	Yeah, let's come in with that.
	Come in with five.
	Shame on you.
	Eleven seconds long.
	Stand by. Stand. Stand.
	Stand. Stand. Stand. Stand. Stand. Stand. Stand. Stand. Stand. Stand.
	I love it!
	Loudoun County public school board meeting with the parents are saying shame on you.
	Why?
	Because they cut it short.
	They were meant to be there till 7 p.m.
	but they were afraid.
	Why?
	Because the truth tellers had arrived.
	The people who understand that this is Marxism, this is bigotry.
	We've had two of the people who were there on the show and next Somebody else.
	Not a parent, a teacher!
	A warrior princess who will join us with our other warrior princess, Jennifer Horne.
	But before we get to that, Jeff, you just asked me about something, if I ever did what?
	What did you ask me just in the break?
	Have you ever used your father's credit card?
	I have!
	I have used, I will admit to having used my father's credit card, but why did you ask me?
	For $25,000?
	No, we were a rather humble middle-class family in West London.
	I had never used my father's credit card for $25,000.
	No, in West London do they have Russian hookers?
	Uh, I have no great experience, but I presume they do have Russian hookers.
	Where are you taking this, Mr. G?
	Uh, I don't know, do you ever look for Parmesan cheese on the floor of your house?
	In the carpet, sniffing in the carpet.
	No, I do like real Parmigiano-Reggiano, but I don't snort it up my nose looking for it in the depths of a shag carpet.
	What is he, what is Mr. G talking about?
	I've been wanting to discuss this all day but we've had such a show.
	We'll discuss it in the next hour but let's post it now so people who don't believe Mr G can see the details.
	The New York Post and the Daily Mail.
	Okay, I've got 90 seconds to summarize this story.
	Text messages and receipts show that Hunter Biden, three years ago, may have used his father's credit card to pay for an escort.
	A Russian woman called Yana from Emerald Fantasy Girls, and he owed her $8,000, couldn't pay it, and then sent her multiple wires from a credit card.
	That somebody else owned.
	Who is that person?
	That individual is currently bearing the title President of the United States.
	He was Vice President Biden and Vice President Biden's credit card account was used to pay for Russian prostitutes.
	I have one question for you.
	Will this story, even once, just once, make it onto the screens of CNN?
	Jake Tapper!
	Don Lemon.
	Who's that potato looking guy?
	Stelty Boy.
	Have I left anybody out?
	The guy who looks like a granny.
	He really does.
	Anderson Cooper.
	I'm waiting for that coverage of Hunter Biden's Russian prostitutes paid for to the tune of $25,000 on Joe Biden's credit card.
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	Oh, oh.
	Mic's are on.
	Mic's are back on.
	Jen!
	Awesome.
	I think I did this whole thing myself today, you guys.
	This is so fun.
	Wow, to think.
	Hey!
	Don't make fun of her.
	Who says women are stupid?
	Would you like to adjust your camera a bit, Jen?
	Except I'm way over.
	Yeah, holy smokes.
	And now we're calling up Lilith.
	How about that?
	You're that character from Home Improvement, the guy over the fence.
	Exactly.
	Wilson.
	Wilson W. Wilson, Jr.
	Hey, Mr. Wilson.
	A little bit more.
	Oh, yeah.
	Down a little.
	Yeah.
	No.
	What the heck?
	Alright.
	Oh!
	Uh... Yeah!
	That's good.
	There we go.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Good stuff.
	My hair is looking terrible.
	I look tired today, guys.
	Tired.
	Have you changed your hair, do you?
	Oh, it's just... it's slightly... mused.
	Must.
	Must.
	Whatever that word is.
	Mic's are live, by the way, Gem.
	On Rumble.
	Won't be shouting out bad things.
	Hi, guys.
	Hello.
	Say hi to our 2,800 viewers today.
	Hello, viewers.
	Hello, viewers.
	That's a pretty good number.
	That is a good number.
	What is it?
	The hydroxy?
	Maybe that did it.
	Rumble it.
	Rumble it, baby.
	The hydroxy chloroquine.
	Commence with the rumbling.
	Rumble away.
	Are we calling Lilit?
	Jeff, are we calling Lilit?
	Oh, that's right.
	Yeah.
	We have time, thankfully.
	Three and a half.
	Now, is it Lilibet or Lilit?
	It's Lilit, I thought.
	Because I have two thingies.
	Sounds like a question for the woman in question.
	Lilibet is the name of the new royal kit.
	It's Lilit.
	L-I-L-I-T.
	Lilit.
	Lilit.
	L-I-L-I-T.
	at teachers underscore four underscore Trump.
	I'd love to do this.
	One person I'd like to do a gotcha interview on.
	Uh-oh.
	Who's that?
	This guy who goes to my bloody church.
	Who's the Republican member of the Loudoun County Board.
	Oh, he goes to your church?
	Yeah, and he just introduced himself because I guess he wants to come on the show because he's running for the Congress.
	And he voted with the board last night to shut down debate.
	Pass.
	I think we should invite him on.
	Ambushes.
	Hello.
	Hello, John.
	You're not locked in here with me.
	Come on in.
	I'm not locked in here with you.
	You're locked in here with me.
	I mean, if he said yes, that would be a serious failure on the part of his press people.
	I don't think he has any press people.
	His wife is doing his press.
	The only thing I missed in here is I don't know how to turn the lights on.
	Lighting looks good.
	That's why I look so crappy.
	Can we, is she up?
	No, not yet.
	All right, can we come in anyway with the anthem again?
	I love that.
	That's the best part of that whole meeting.
	I'm sorry, which cut was it?
	Four.
	Four, yes.
	Wait for the liner, please.
	So what's the latest around there other than school board meetings and A bridge just collapsed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I heard about that.
	Whose bridge was it?
	DC.
	DC, yeah.
	Wait, seriously?
	Which one?
	Over 295.
	But infrastructure is child care.
	Yeah.
	Apparently about 10-15 people got injured.
	This is weird.
	Have you ever seen people on those bridges?
	If there's anybody on one of those bridges, it's like two people or one person.
	Yeah, I'm surprised.
	No, a truck hit it.
	The truck hit it.
	It's too hot.
	It hit the truck height.
	Wow.
	That is... That makes more sense.
	That is something.
	You remember when there was all those bridges that were falling down in like 2013, 2014?
	It was London, right?
	The Florida campus.
	Nice!
	Good, I'll see where you did that.
	It was like, it was like right out, it was, well actually no, no, no, that was 2011.
	It was back in the 2012 primary where everybody was talking about infrastructure.
	For like that brief period when Herman Cain was making that a big part of his campaign.
	But that was like, I drove that bridge every day to get to work.
	Like, that was a, Do you ever wonder how, like, God makes it, like, I mean, it's lucky.
	Like, how did you end up not being on the bridge, but someone else did?
	Isn't that weird?
	10 seconds.
	Oh, darn it.
	This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America.
	Wow.
	This is America.
	That first time that they shout, This is America!
	Shad, can we turn that into a liner?
	Can you clip that out?
	I'll do my best.
	The crowd sounds are pretty elaborate.
	I know, but it just grabs me.
	Let's ask a real radio pro.
	She is our West Coast warrior princess.
	You have to follow her right now on Twitter.
	Jennifer Horne, are you there?
	I am here, and I had goosebumps watching that video as we came in.
	Wasn't that great?
	I mean, you said, we're talking in the break, we're talking to the host of the Morning Arts and the Jen & Don Show, AM 590, AM 870, the answer.
	We've got like five cuts from the Loudoun County meeting last night, but that's the best!
	That is the best one.
	And you know what?
	It's something that I've heard you say, Seb.
	I've said it too.
	When we talk to groups of people, everybody always wants to know how they can get involved.
	And what you do is you show up.
	You are present and you get to those school board meetings because that's where it all starts.
	That's where the indoctrination begins, and this is where our fight needs to be.
	Dennis Prager has said that the left has been at war with us for four decades, and it took President Trump to wake us up.
	And boy, those parents in Loudoun County, they were woke, and it did my heart good.
	They didn't want to sing the national anthem.
	They were based, not woke.
	That's right.
	She's been working hard.
	Terminology, it matters.
	It does.
	No, we had two of them on the show, and it's fun.
	Back me up, Cher.
	Didn't I say, didn't I say ten days ago, it's as if every day there's a new video, right?
	Yeah, you said it's as if there's every week, and it became every day.
	And now it's every day!
	It's crazy!
	Sometimes twice a day.
	I know, sometimes twice a day there's a video.
	Tell us about what you're seeing in California.
	Is there an echo of this, this, the giant awakening in California?
	Is there hope?
	Talk to us.
	Yeah, our awakening starts with the letter R, and California has become so recall-happy, and I'm happy about that.
	It's not just Gavin Newsom now.
	It's the District Attorney, George Gascogne, and these groups are being formed by victims' families.
	You know, the big lie from George Gascogne these days is that it's, you know, a right-wing conspiracy.
	These are MAGA donors.
	These are Trump people who are trying to— QAnon!
	QAnon!
	QAnon!
	The group has been founded.
	One of the loudest members of the group is a woman who describes herself as a Democrat whose child was killed over a case of mistaken identity with gang members.
	She's the one.
	There's also a recall now on one of the L.A.
	City Council members, Mike Bonin, because he has been completely inept when it comes to the homeless crisis in California.
	Chessa Bodine, who is the district attorney in San Francisco, a recall on him.
	So people are waking up.
	Not only are they getting involved at the level of school board, But they're also starting to organize, and the people behind the Recall Newsome effort have done something so incredible.
	They've combined grassroots support, and they've combined this magic potion of mail order and advertising, and they've been able to gather signatures needed to get Gavin Newsome in playing defense, or playing offense, essentially, Trying to avoid this recall.
	And now, because they have this powerful mix of activists and this equation that works, there are all kinds of initiatives in California that are being floated around that are going to be so incredible for conservatives, for independents, for patriots, for people who just, for crying out loud, value safety and they want a good education for their kids.
	Now, maybe three weeks ago, if I remember well, you were saying as if You know, he's re-cemented himself.
	He's just buying votes.
	Has the pendulum swung in the other direction perhaps recently?
	You know, I don't even know if it matters.
	I was speaking to a group yesterday.
	The message has been sent.
	And yes, it's possible that Gavin Newsom survives this recall.
	And I still think probably the chances are that he will.
	But the message has been sent that California is going to fight back.
	That it's not just Republicans.
	It is people who are coming together, waking up together and seeing what the left has done to this country.
	And so whether or not the recall succeeds, the success is already there.
	The fact that we can do something like this and we can copy the strategies that were used in organizing, I think that all is huge.
	The fact that we've sent a message to the rest of the country that the furthest left state with the most leftist governor, that's not acceptable when they don't fulfill their duties.
	And we will fight back.
	So the message has been sent whether or not he survives.
	I think the damage has already been done.
	You see the Biden administration scrambling today to try to take on law and order.
	It's because I believe Really strongly.
	It's because of these recalls and because Americans, not just political parties, are coming together and pushing back and saying, we are not a country that defunds the police.
	We are not a country that prioritizes criminals over victims.
	And we're speaking out.
	I feel really good about our future.
	And that optimism continued last night when I saw that school board meeting.
	All right, we have to get to some stories, some big stories here to do with El Polo Loco and the 42 tons of pistachios.
	But before we get to the big stories like that, I have to ask you this.
	The pressing news.
	The pressing news.
	Hey, I like pistachios.
	If I could, if I had to, I could live on pistachios.
	But we'll get to that in a second.
	All right.
	I've been wanting to talk about it for the last two hours and I'm just running out of time because we've got so many great guests and we've got you as well talking to us about what's going on in California, the recall.
	But I have to ask you, you are a West Coast warrior.
	Tell us, as a media maven who's trained in media and strategic communications, what would happen?
	I wanted to just change this story.
	What if three years ago, Donald Trump Jr.
	had spent $25,000 on Russian hookers and crack in the fanciest hotel in California and used Donald Trump Sr.' 's credit card to pay for it because Because that's the story that we now have.
	Thanks to the Daily Mail and the New York Post, we have the evidence from Hunter Biden's laptop that this is what he did with Joe Biden's credit card.
	But what would the ramifications have been if this story had broken a year ago and it was Donald Trump Jr.
	and the President's credit card?
	Oh my gosh, the gleeful screams from the news media.
	They would have been stoked if this were Donald Trump Jr., if this were Eric Trump.
	They would have loved this story and they would have ridiculed him.
	They would have made fun.
	They would have done Saturday Night Live sketches.
	They probably would have done a special for Crying Out Loud to talk about this.
	For people who haven't read this story, this is incredible.
	He picked out escorts.
	He apparently tried to charge or tried to use his credit card or his Venmo.
	Multiple, multiple times.
	Yeah.
	And was declined.
	Imagine using Venmo.
	Like, what do you put in the description?
	$8,000 of Parmesan cheese.
	Maybe you just used a little dancing girl emoji.
	I mean, is that what you put up there in the description?
	I don't know.
	So he can't use his own money because clearly he's out.
	And so he reaches in and he gets a hold of Daddy's credit card.
	And he's got the Secret Service then at his door because I guess with the chargebacks and the overcharges, there was like a sum of $25,000 that was transferring back and forth between these women.
	This guy's a wreck.
	And this is not 20 years ago.
	This is 2018.
	Three years ago!
	And the fact that the news media turns, I mean, no one, I guarantee the most disturbing conversation this week with a friend of mine who is on the other side of the political aisle.
	And I kid you not, Seb, I almost flew and like hit the ceiling.
	They were talking, we were talking about how Joe Biden invited President Obama to the White House to see the unveiling of his presidential portrait.
	And I was hearing from my liberal friends that wouldn't it have been nice if Trump would have just invited President Obama to the White House for the unveiling?
	And boy, they can't wait to get things back to normal.
	And I said, well, you think Biden's going to invite Trump to the White House for the unveiling of his?
	Oh, yeah, I think so, because he seems like the kind of guy that would do that.
	And I went, OK.
	And I said, do you think that maybe the invite didn't come because, oh, I don't know, President Obama was spying on President Trump?
	Like, maybe there were some hurt feelings there.
	Maybe he didn't want to take a photo and put it up in the White House that had the wiggly eyes moving back and forth watching him as he goes.
	And I was told that the spying story had been debunked years ago.
	And I said, debunked?
	I mean, this is the whole controversy with the FISA warrants and the campaign was spot.
	No, it's been debunked.
	That did not happen.
	That was a Donald Trump lie.
	This is what the country thinks because they're only watching one news channel.
	They're only watching CNN or they're only watching MSNBC and they don't know the truth.
	So they're never going to know this story about Hunter Biden because the news media won't tell them.
	I didn't make this point.
	Somebody else did, but I use it all the time.
	The fact is, we know what they're doing.
	We know what they're saying.
	They have no idea what we're saying, because they're the intolerant ones.
	She's Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer and the General Don Show, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	Follow her right now, at Jennifer Horne.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Hey, Jen.
	Yes?
	Can you turn your headphones down just a little bit?
	Oh, yeah.
	Am I drowning you out?
	No, just some really slight bleed.
	It's not super noticeable, but I just wanted to make sure.
	I will.
	They're cranked down.
	Mics are on.
	Is that a Biden sticker in the background?
	It says, Impeach Biden.
	Okay, good.
	Oh, that makes me feel a lot better.
	Got that from MTG.
	Love it.
	That's a nice big sticker she brought.
	We have tankers going back and forth to this country for what we're doing to keep their freedom.
	To keep them free and to allow them to be free.
	And would you rather have that or would you rather see this country go totally bust in another couple of years because this country cannot afford... In the middle.
	Cut out the middle.
	No, no, the middle.
	This bit where he said, oh, would you rather prefer.
	So around minute nine.
	Start it or stop it then?
	Start around there, like, start listing a minute eight and give me like the next minute.
	And include the, would you rather, that's a great line.
	Okay.
	Three minutes.
	And then Giuliani, Janet Ellis, I mean.
	Yeah, can't find it.
	Here's the problem is.
	It's always sitting.
	- Earrings, no one. - I don't need to.
	Mic's on.
	What was really funny today was trying to watch Neil Cavuto cover both the Britney trial and the Biden press conference.
	What?
	Why?
	I know this is a naive question.
	Why are we covering Britney?
	I mean, I like toxic, but still.
	How old is she?
	What, 35?
	She's 39.
	And so I think the reason people are talking about it is because she had a mental break.
	She had maybe addiction issues, whatever she had.
	Her mother says it was postpartum.
	It seemed like a lot more than that.
	But the fact that she can't get rid of the conservatorship, I think, is a big one.
	How does she have the conservatorship at the age of 39?
	Exactly.
	And how many other people have had the same kind of junk that she's been through that can still make their own decisions and she, for some reason, can't even pick her kitchen cabinets.
	So, I don't know.
	It's kind of weird.
	Imagine all those people rallying outside of the courthouse.
	Imagine that being your thing.
	Like, oh yeah, what am I doing today?
	There's a guy in a Britney wig!
	A guy!
	I was just... I mean, if she had been to court, I mean, it would have been like a Princess Diana situation.
	People would have been flipping out.
	I'm so glad they let her zoom in.
	Because that courthouse, it is... That's where I have to go to jury duty.
	Gross.
	Lillet?
	Yes, sir?
	Have we ripped you out of the classroom?
	Are you there?
	Yes, I'm here, sir.
	Are you on a Bluetooth?
	I am.
	I'm going to disconnect you.
	Can you give me one second, please?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	I can tell these things.
	I'm not an engineer, but I can tell these things.
	All right.
	Let's keep talking.
	One, two, three.
	Test, test.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	One, two, three.
	Perfect.
	All right.
	So, my good friend from California, who always comes on the show at this time, is going to be interrogating you as well.
	Okay?
	Hi, Lillet.
	Hi, Jennifer.
	Pleasure to meet you.
	Standing by.
	You coming in with something?
	horn.
	Hello.
	Hi, Jennifer.
	Pleasure to meet you.
	Alright, let's roll.
	20 seconds and we're live.
	Standing by.
	You coming in with something?
	There's shame on you.
	Cut five.
	Cut five.
	Coming in with shame. Coming in with shame. Shame on you.
	Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you. Shame on you.
	Yes, indeed.
	Shame on you.
	An amazing clip from the Loudoun County Public School Board meeting last night.
	And we saw somebody on the footage who's been on the show before.
	She's not a mama bear parent.
	She's a Patriot teacher.
	And she's going to join our conversation with Jennifer Horne.
	Lilith Venezia, are you there?
	Yes, sir.
	All right.
	Thank you for coming.
	I haven't spoken to you since then for coming on my show last week on Newsmax.
	If you're not watching it, you just can't have a good excuse.
	Sunday night, 7 p.m., 10 p.m.
	Eastern.
	Watch the Gawker Reality Check.
	Lilit, describe to our millions of listeners and viewers right now what happened last night.
	How was that meeting?
	Yes, sir.
	Last night was Loudoun County Public Schools' last and final school board meeting of the year.
	Keep in mind, this is the richest county in Virginia.
	We were notified via the public Twitter account that Loudoun Democrats were busing an activist to try and disrupt the school board meeting.
	Why, you may ask, because last night the school board was voting to vote on policy 8040 to allow transgenders into any bathroom, any locker room, to play in any sport they wish to play with your little daughter.
	Without being said, we had 259 speakers signed up to speak.
	They changed the meeting from 630 to four o'clock without publicly announcing it.
	We found out, we showed up in numbers.
	The first time the school boards took a five minute recess, ...is when we clapped, they did not like that.
	Then, a transgender activist came and spoke and lashed out about Christians, called us, uh, Jesus followers, um, and lashed out on Christians, and the crowd started fooling her.
	The school board took another five minute recess.
	They attempted to cut off public comment if we continued to clap.
	The next speaker that came on that prompted them to take a break was former Senator of Virginia, Mr. Dick Black.
	He scorched the school board.
	The crowd clapped after him and cheered.
	The school board then took a vote 9-0 to remove public comment.
	The crowd went wild and that is when the school board decided to get up and leave.
	And afterwards, two of you were arrested.
	We had John Tiggs on the show earlier along with Chantal Cooper.
	John was one of the two patriots arrested.
	Jennifer, your response, your questions to Lilith.
	The school board busting or somebody busting activists and then they tried to have it earlier, classic communist trick, and then to shut down the event.
	Your reaction?
	Create the chaos so that you can shut it down and change the rules.
	I would love your reaction, Lilla.
	One of the things that I saw that I thought was kind of interesting was that the school board chair said that parents who showed up to offer their concern that they were playing dog whistle politics.
	Now, if they're bringing in activists, what does that even mean?
	And what are they accusing parents of who are just trying to be good parents and question what the school board is putting out there for consumption?
	Right.
	What are you as a teacher, and what are the parents being accused of?
	I'm curious.
	Well, they feel threatened just by you simply disagreeing with them.
	They feel threatened even more threatened by your presence.
	So this is just, you know, the louder that you get, the louder that they get.
	But there's more of us than there is of them.
	This is a crucial point, and I don't know if you can answer this question.
	We're talking to Lilit Venezian.
	Follow her on Instagram, Teachers4Trump.
	That's Teachers underscore F-O-R underscore Trump, Teachers4Trump.
	I am so excited by what I'm witnessing in Loudoun, in Bucks County of all places, incredible, across the nation.
	And to me, it looks organic.
	Is anybody organizing, you guys?
	Because if this is organic, this is incredible.
	We have some incredible, incredible, brave and courageous parents in Loudoun County.
	We have formed a few groups.
	There's a couple of things going on.
	And so at this point, we're all one group.
	I mean, it started off with just a handful of people showing up.
	It started off with just a handful of parents coming and speaking.
	But now we are an entire family.
	And as you know, Mr. Gorka, it's not just people from Loudoun County.
	There's people from the surrounding district, as myself, from Fairfax County, coming over and speaking.
	And the reason we do that is because if this can happen in the richest county In the country, this can happen anywhere, and it will.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Latin County is the richest country in America, and this is one of the places they're teaching the bigotry, the Marxist philosophy that is critical race theory.
	Jennifer, with your perspective of being a fighter for freedom for so long in California, what are the commonalities or lessons learned?
	How do you look at this?
	Does this make you think, if it can happen here, we can even save California?
	I feel like California is actually really very much in this fight of pushback.
	And Lillet and Seb, one of the things that California has been doing concern California parents and teachers.
	They've been promoting school choice as a way around these school boards and all of this indoctrination from the state, from the federal government, all of the layers.
	Is school choice being tossed around as something that parents in your area, in your state, are interested in, Lillet?
	Oh, I've got to tell you in Fairfax County alone, Fairfax County has over 186,000 students.
	It's almost double the size of Loudoun County.
	This past year, we had about 8 to 10,000 families pull out of the district and start homeschooling them or place them into a private school.
	And I'm sure that number is even higher now than the last time I checked.
	We have significant high numbers in Loudoun County as well.
	So yes, parents are taking their child's education into their own hands.
	They're finding other means and other alternatives to give their child a safe and well-rounded education.
	And quite frankly, on the side, I'm working with those families.
	I'm going to their homes and I'm tutoring those kids.
	This could be the best thing that comes out of the COVID virus.
	Parents waking up, pulling them out of the system and talking out at those school board meetings.
	We're talking to Jennifer Horne, follow her at Jennifer Horne, the host of The Morning Answer and The Jen & Don Show, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	And from Teachers for Trump, Lilit Venezian, a very, very brave teacher.
	In the last 60 seconds we have, I have to ask you, Lilit, if you can, if you want to share with our listeners and viewers, Has there been a cost for you personally as a teacher in Fairfax taking the stand from a family that came to America from a former Soviet Republic?
	Have you paid a price for what you're doing in terms of telling the truth?
	I have not paid a price, and even if I do end up paying the price, quite frankly, I'm not going to waste my time and talk about that part, because they can keep doing what they want to do.
	They will never cancel me.
	I'll go to another school.
	I'll start my own school.
	This fight will never be over, no matter how hard they come at me.
	So I will only focus on the positives that have come out of this, and the positives are that people have been speaking up, more teachers have been speaking up, and we have a great army here of awake patriots.
	A great army.
	I love her.
	Isn't she great?
	And she's in my neck of the woods.
	Jeff has already said we're going to get you in studio next week.
	We're going to get you and one of the parents and we're going to talk about this and we're going to make that army even bigger.
	God bless you.
	Keep being that fighter.
	Follow her at Teachers underscore F-O-R underscore Trump on Instagram.
	That's Teachers underscore F-O-R underscore Trump.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	You've been listening to America First with Jennifer Horne and Lilit Venezian.
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	Reinstatement.
	Should be a good word, shouldn't it?
	Somebody gets justice is reinstated as a result.
	But perhaps sometimes it's not a good word.
	I raised it with my podcast co-host, former White House colleague Boris Epstein on the latest, I think episode 65, correct?
	Episode 65 of the battle for 1600 because he's been making the rounds.
	He gave an interview where he said there is potentially a route or he said rather it is not out of the question That President Trump can be reinstated.
	I pushed back as a lame man.
	You've got to listen to the whole podcast.
	Fascinating discussion.
	The Battle for 1600.
	You can download it wherever you get your podcasts.
	But now, the other side of the story.
	Somebody else who makes news herself.
	Well, in part because she has her own show, Just The Truth.
	She is Jenna Ellis, former attorney to President Trump and also the chair of the Election Integrity Alliance.
	I'm a member of that board, full disclosure.
	Follow her, Jenna Ellis, ESQ on Twitter.
	Jenna, so Boris, for those who missed the clip we played or who haven't heard the podcast, listen to the podcast, just listen to the whole podcast.
	Who missed it, said the following.
	So, I'm not a lawyer.
	Big caveat.
	He said, as a lawyer, Georgetown, fancy degree, said, the Constitution is a list of negative rights.
	It says what the government cannot do.
	It is not an enumeration of all the things it can do.
	Therefore, because it says, or doesn't say, that a president can't be reinstated, Well, in that case, he could be, theoretically.
	It's a theoretical argument.
	My pushback, and you can tell us whether he's wrong, I'm wrong, or the truth is somewhere in the middle as a constitutional lawyer and former professor.
	I look at the realpolitik of the situation, and I say, There's only one way to remove a president from office.
	It is impeachment with a supermajority of the Senate.
	There is no reinstatement clause.
	And more practically, if I look at the last year, if I look at COVID, if I look at the Pennsylvania decision by the Supreme Court, if I look at the Texas decision, I see a bunch of cowards, except for two justices.
	I see hundreds of cowards at the state level, the municipal level, when we look at the courts and the judges.
	Therefore, I just say, This is a non-starter to begin with.
	Investigate the fraud, and whatever we find, we use it as political ammunition for 2024.
	But in the meantime, this is false hope.
	Where's the truth?
	Where do you stand on this?
	It's absolutely false hope, and Boris, while he may be a JD lawyer, is not a constitutional expert, and absolutely it's falsehood.
	He said that this is a matter of rights.
	No one has a right to be the President of the United States.
	No one has a right to office.
	We're not talking about negative rights versus positive rights here.
	That's something that he needs to clarify and understand further.
	What the text of the Constitution says and the reason that this is not constitutional is because the only way that a sitting U.S. president can be removed from office is through the impeachment and conviction process.
	We've talked about this a lot on your show and I've talked a lot about it.
	And even if the political reality isn't what it is, which is that that's not going to happen, Even if the political reality happened that Biden and Harris were both impeached and convicted, the 25th Amendment and the line of succession then triggers and you can't put someone From outside the line of succession.
	This is massively important.
	So let's stop here for a second.
	The line of succession issue that was raised by one of our team members.
	So if a president is removed, incapacitated, assassinated like JFK, any way, whatever, they have a brain accident.
	Anyway.
	Then the Constitution is clear.
	If they are removed, you don't have an electoral college to choose.
	You don't have another election.
	What happens, Jenna?
	What is the line of succession mechanism?
	Yeah, so then, the mechanism is in the 25th Amendment, which, by the way, was because we want to have a stable government, and in our history when Reagan was shot, and Congress was looking at this, and the world was looking at this going, oh, we need to make sure That we don't just have a usurper that can come in from the outside for some reason if our president is out of office for any reason.
	We need to have a peaceful transition and a predictable path.
	And so the 25th amendment was ratified and it provides the line of succession.
	And the next person, number three, is the Speaker of the House.
	And that is a separation of powers Because the executive branch, it doesn't just go through the executive, it actually goes then over to the legislative branch.
	And then back and forth to members of the cabinet.
	Sure, and amendments then, when they are ratified, become part of the Constitution in no less than any other part of the Constitution.
	That is the mechanism.
	If you get rid of Joe Biden, sorry, the Constitution, you don't get to choose the next mechanism.
	It's Kamala Harris.
	If Kamala Harris is incapacitated, Lord preserve us, it would be Nancy.
	We're talking to Jenna Ellis.
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	We are talking about the big issues.
	I love it.
	I'm not a lawyer.
	I took a couple of international law courses for my master's degree.
	I loved it.
	I loved it.
	But we have a real professional.
	First film attorney to the president.
	She's the chair of the Election Integrity Alliance, Jenna Ellis.
	Jenna, you were about to say something before.
	So really, Rudely, rudely had to pay the rent, the line of succession.
	Talk to us about why we're so happy about the constitutional limitations on who can be president.
	Right, we should be because let's remember that when the Democrats were trying multiple times to impeach Donald Trump, our response to that was, well then you'd get Pence, you know?
	Yeah, tough, bring it!
	Yeah, and we also were very happy during the four years of Trump when the Democrats were trying so hard to get Trump out of office, that there was no way, absolutely no way, that Hillary Clinton, as a failed candidate, even though she won the popular vote, well, who cares?
	We have the Electoral College.
	We all did that.
	We said, this is why the Electoral College, our system, our process matters.
	There's no way Hillary Clinton can come into office, not back, come into office.
	And we were constitutionals.
	We cannot Be the flip-floppers, like the Democrats, and just when it serves our purposes, I would love more than anyone to see President Trump back in office, but we have to remain principled Americans.
	We can't give this sort of hopium of saying, well, just because the Constitution doesn't expressly forbid it, then, well, it does, because the plain text and the language of the Constitution specifically provides for impeachment as the only removal system, the Electoral College, as the mechanism by which we install a president and then the 25th amendment the line of succession now if the supreme court were to do something outrageous i don't think the practical reality is that they ever will so let's stop here for a second
	because this is the other you know me i don't care theories of fun but at the end of the day if a theory doesn't make any difference in real life you're just wasting time so here is important because we have to be constitutional so we have to be principled But let's play the theory out into reality.
	Here's a scenario which is not unlikely at all if you look at what we are hearing, you're hearing as the chairperson, the events, the impending things happening in Georgia.
	What happens?
	What is your argument for what should happen and what can happen?
	If we have more than requisite evidence of more than 41,000 fraudulent ballots in the battleground states, which would have been enough to overturn the Electoral College results or provide the 270 mandate for President Trump, what happens in, let's say, a year from now if we have empirical evidence and some brave judges have said, yeah, that ballot, that, you know, those 10,000 there, that 10,000, just they're not.
	So what should happen?
	What should happen at that point is that the House, if they were not being so political, they should impeach and remove Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and we should also, through our justice system, hold accountable the people who broke the law.
	We should not re-elect people in Georgia like Brad Raffensperger or Kemp, who just turned a blind eye and said, not my responsibility.
	We should look at the state legislatures.
	We need to go back through litigation and through legislation and put back in these safeguards.
	But we also have to remain principled and say that even though the electoral college process happened and this really sucks that 2020 was so corrupt, It's basically a statute of limitations issue because once the Electoral College votes, that is the process.
	That process wasn't corrupted.
	This is something that you helped me with previously.
	And listen to that segment, by the way.
	You and I talked about this.
	And I'd like to be more explicit about it for the millions of people who've just tuned in now.
	The Electoral College, and you don't have to like this, but when the Electoral College counts the votes, when they are sent physically to DC, when the President of the Senate, the incumbent Vice President, tallies the votes and announces them, in layman's terms, that decision is... That's the only vote that matters.
	Carved in stone.
	It is not, it is undoable.
	Yes?
	Yes, and that's, the electoral college delegates voting and Congress accepting and ratifying that vote, that's the only vote that matters.
	Before 1824, our state legislatures didn't have, the majority of them didn't even accept the popular vote as the manner in selecting their delegates.
	So it doesn't actually matter to the constitutional process what happened in the states It matters to us and it matters moving forward, but what actually matters constitutionally to the selection of a president is the electoral college delegates voting and being ratified.
	That happened.
	And we cannot advocate to undo that system because, let's remember, if that could have happened, the Democrats would have tried to do it to Trump.
	Do we really want that precedent?
	We have to remain principled constitutionalists.
	We have to look at the remedy here being to never let it happen again.
	Jenna Ellis is giving us the truth.
	It's a good name for a show, Just The Truth.
	She is the chair of the Election Integrity Alliance.
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	Just happy warriors on America First.
	We're chatting in the breaks as you do.
	Quick question I want to ask in front of our millions of listeners.
	How do you like your masculinity?
	Toxic or extra toxic?
	Extra toxic.
	Extra toxic because she's a real woman.
	She's a real woman.
	She likes her men to be extra toxic.
	We were having a great time in New York three weeks ago walking down the sidewalk and who was her security detail?
	Who was it?
	Me or six foot three of me?
	And then Former police commissioner for New York, Bernie Kerik, on the other side.
	That's pretty cool.
	We should have had a photograph of you just walking down the sidewalk.
	We should have, because I was so confident.
	I'm like, I've got the two most toxic men in America that are so amazing.
	And I've got New York.
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	And it was fabulous.
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	Okay.
	Janna Ellis, talk to us about your additional responsibilities.
	I'm a member of your board.
	You're one of my bosses now under the American Greatness Fund.
	Check it out, AmericanGreatnessFund.com.
	There is the Election Integrity Alliance.
	I love that word, alliance, at the end.
	What's the mission?
	How can people find out more and support you?
	Yes, so go to AmericanGreatnessFund.com and you will see the Election Integrity Alliance.
	We are a project under that fund.
	And the goal is to ally everyone who has the same goal, which is to make it easy to vote, hard to cheat.
	I like that tagline.
	Thank you.
	Easy to vote, hard to cheat.
	I mean, shouldn't every American want this?
	Sounds like, you know, fairness and transparency and all the good qualities of our sacrosanct vote.
	So what are we doing?
	What is the board doing?
	So we are congregating all of the allies that are working on various things in not only the swing states But also on the federal level.
	So just yesterday... How many organizations?
	We have over 60 organizations that are allies and you can go to AmericanGreatnessFund.com.
	You can sign up for our press releases.
	You can sign up for if you want to be an ally.
	You can also sign up to donate and to give so that we can go and testify on different bills.
	I'm working with a couple of state legislatures right now on texts of bills that will be forthcoming.
	We'll testify on those.
	We'll give them education.
	So we're giving them the tools and resources but also Having a central hub of a scorecard.
	And just yesterday, S-1 failed 50-50 in the Senate, and that's great!
	We've got seconds left, and I wanted to ask you exactly about S-1 failing the filibuster.
	It was 50 votes instead of 61.
	Thankfully.
	But this is just a small victory.
	They're not going to give up.
	Oh, of course not.
	But this was the Democrats' latest attempt to try to control the states and harness power, and they want to control elections so that they can continue to cheat.
	And we stopped it because there are good patriots like all of your listeners who are requiring their representatives in Congress, they're holding them accountable, people like Joe Manchin, Christian Sinema.
	Call your legislators.
	Make sure election integrity matters.
	AmericanGreatnessFund.com.
	Just the idea that you have a partisan rewriting of our federal election laws, sheer insanity.
	She's Janet Ellis.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
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