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May 26, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka
02:51:21
Kurt Schlichter LIVE: Should Trump run again in 2024?
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Thank you.
And I'd like to introduce our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
Thank you.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka!
Hello, America.
And hello, patriots.
I am Kurt Schlichter.
I am a senior columnist at townhall.com.
I'm a noted Los Angeles trial lawyer.
I'm a retired United States Army colonel.
I am The author of the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative novels, which you should go buy, because they're conservative.
And there's lots of gunplay and stuff, and it's really, really a lot of fun.
And I am thrilled to be back here for a second day.
We've got so much for you!
Coming up next segment, Julie Kelly, who's been doing great work on the fascist regime's abuse of the trespassers.
at the Capitol.
It's outrageous what's happening to him.
It is an abuse of law.
It is grinding the rule of law into the dirt with the jackboots of the federal government.
Am I allowed to say that?
I'm saying it anyway.
I'm going to say whatever I want within the bounds of the FCC.
Yes, I was in the infantry for a while, so I do in my personal life tend to push the bounds of what would be acceptable on the FCC.
Well, there are about seven words I can't say.
Everything else, folks, open season.
I want to hear from you because I'm looking around and I'm seeing a disaster.
Okay?
I need your input.
833-33-GORCA.
That's 833-33-46752.
I want you to call in and talk to me about whether you want President Donald J. Trump to run again in 2024.
Look at what we're seeing here, folks.
It is a disaster.
Jimmy Carter's the only one happy because now, thanks to that desiccated old weirdo in the White House, he's not the worst president of the last century.
833-33-G-O-R-K-A.
I want to hear your thoughts because I'm looking, I'm looking at China running rampant.
I'm looking at Trump being right about The virus coming from the Wuhan lab.
I'm looking at gas prices, and I live in Los Angeles, folks.
Gas prices are like, just, you know, TO THE MOON!
Right?
They're like Dogecoin.
TO THE MOON!
It's insane.
You know, I filled up my fine touring sedan the other day.
I thought I was gonna have to get a mortgage.
It's nuts.
The Middle East?
Remember how we solved the whole Middle East thing during the Trump year?
Now, if you're of my age, and I'm 56 years young, folks.
No, I grew up in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, the 2010s.
And it was always the Middle East is aflame, the Middle East is aflame, the Middle East is aflame.
The Middle East is aflame.
And then Donald Trump comes along, ignores all the suits down at Foggy Bottom, and gets it done.
He gets peace.
Israel is now at peace with Saudi Arabia, with some of the Gulf states.
I mean, that's revolutionary!
And that seems to be going to hell.
We got inflation going on.
Maybe you don't remember inflation because you were, you know, a fetus 40 years ago.
I remember inflation.
You know, I was just a kid making minimum wage and every month my minimum wage went a little less far.
It's a tax.
It's a tax that hurts working Americans and working families.
And then, of course, we've got critical race theory being injected into every aspect of our society, from our entertainment, to our academics, to our government, to our military.
We've got a woke military that's now advertising with Disney princess cartoons.
Do you miss Donald Trump?
833-33-GORKA.
833-33-GORKA, G-O-R-K-A.
I miss Donald Trump.
Thank you.
But do I want him to run again in 2024?
I am not sure I do.
I'm always going to tell you straight, Dr. Gorka may not agree with me, but he'd want me to give you my best thoughts.
And I am not sure that the president should run again.
Now, if he did win a run, I am confident that he would win the primary.
I don't think there's any question.
But should he?
Is he even intending to?
Well, let's go to a cut from Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, guys who know him real well, see what they have to say.
Off Hannity.
Both of you are close to the former president.
Is Donald Trump running for president?
Jim Jordan, we give it to you first.
Yeah, I think he is.
Every time I speak to him, he says that he wants to run.
He plans to run, I think, but he hasn't fully committed to that yet.
But I certainly hope he does because no president has done more of what he said he would do than President Trump.
Best president I think we've ever had, keeping his word, doing what he said, doing what he was elected to do.
That's the kind of individual we need in the White House.
And that's the kind of individual that our adversaries respected because they knew he was putting America's interests first and standing strong for the principles that matter.
Last word, Mark Meadows.
Yeah, listen, Sean, when he came down that escalator, the left has been going after him, attack after attack after attack, from Russia hoax to impeachment.
Now we're even still seeing it in New York City.
Here's what I will say is the American people want him to run.
I believe he'll run.
And at the end of the day, it's a time for choosing and the American people will choose Donald Trump.
Well.
Now you heard it from two guys who know the president very, very well.
I am an outside observer.
And I'm also unbelievably unsentimental.
Politicians to me, even ones I like, and I like Donald Trump a lot, he won me over.
I was not a supporter of him in the primaries.
I support Ted Cruz.
He won me over by exactly what Jim Jordan said, which is making promises and keeping them.
And I think he was a great president.
But again, I am unsentimental, folks.
Is he the best candidate to defeat the Democrats in the existential election that is 2024?
What do you think?
Convince me.
Because I think he comes in bringing back a lot of the old fights.
And that will have an effect.
Now maybe you think it can be overcome, but it will have an effect.
What do you think?
833-33-GORKA.
G-O-R-K-A.
I want to know.
Are you looking forward to Donald Trump running in 2024?
Because I'm not sure.
Keep those calls coming.
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I want to hear from you.
I want to hear whether you think That President Trump should run again.
Again, either that desiccated old weirdo or Kamala Harris.
Ugh!
In 2024.
833-33-GORKA.
G-O-R-K-A.
I'm Kurt Schlichter, guest hosting for The Doctor here on America First.
Up next is Julie Kelly, then your calls.
And mics are on.
Clear.
All right.
All right.
That was fun.
Was that okay?
Yeah, well done.
Call board's full.
Yes, we have a full call board.
All right.
Look at that.
People are ready to weigh in.
A lot of people want their Trump.
If I'm going to take a wild guess, I think I know the answer they're all going to give, whether or not he should win.
No, it's three to two.
I will devil's advocate a bit.
Oh, of course.
There's three people there.
The other two are Well, I don't think Biden's gonna make it out the year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was interesting.
I think actually Jeff did include this on one of our rundowns in a previous show that there was one poll from McLaughlin and Associates that had Trump beating Kamala in 2024 by four points, which I do think obviously if she was the nominee, I think Trump would have a much better shot than against Biden again.
Well, I don't think Biden's going to make it out the year.
I mean, have you seen that dude?
And I'm not even messing with him.
I mean, he is in heavy crustiness.
Seb says if you watch him on mute, he looks even worse.
Like, don't listen to him.
Well, that's the only way to watch him.
I need a Matlock superfan with his finger on the red button.
Weekend at Biden's.
Weekend at Biden's.
Goodness.
Oh, man.
I really think that's what they do.
They prop him up to the midterms, at least, because they know he's less toxic than Kamala.
Then they get trounced in the midterms anyway and say, oh, time to retire this guy, get Kamala in there.
But then, of course, Kamala is a worse candidate.
There's a reason she dropped out before Iowa.
She's such a horrible candidate.
You know, she's just sitting there, you know, dropping banana peels in the West Wing hallway.
I'll tell ya, if she sends up some cupcakes, I'm not eating them.
Hey, it's Jeff with Kurt Schlichter Audio.
Alright, two minutes and we're about to have Miss Kelly on the line.
Good.
Just so you know, if we talk to you in the break, we're live online.
And the mics will remain live.
The mics are live during the commercial breaks on the internet, alright?
Hang on.
There she is!
Yeah!
Hi Julie!
Hi, how are you?
Well, I'm disgusted with what the federal government's doing to the people accused of trespassing.
Right?
Did you see the latest, which is they've dragged Officer Sicknick's mother out to demand a commission, even though, of course, he didn't die in connection with the minor fracas that they call the insurrection.
And all the media has got a memo around where he's now referred to as fallen officer.
So the mother's out?
How did I miss that?
Did that come out today?
That's just a couple minutes ago.
Oh, I was playing tennis.
I didn't see that.
It would have disrupted my massive victory on the court today.
Well, I wouldn't want to do that.
Well, you know what?
I'm going to tell you something, Kurt.
I'm glad that she came out because that family is now entitled to a lot of criticism for playing along with this, and obviously They have been complicit in creating this lie about what happened to him.
So shame on them for now continuing to use their own son's death for political purposes.
I think it's pretty disgusting.
And of course, you don't care.
And it's like, well, I mean, he had a stroke.
Exactly what emotional response am I supposed to have for it?
I'm not for it.
I didn't cause it.
Twenty seconds.
Ten seconds.
Oh, five seconds.
this natural death hadn't happened, do I have to lie about it to show I care?
Is that the test?
I just want to know the rules.
Ten seconds.
Well, the family said early on he had underlying health issues.
Five seconds.
Hold on.
On the side of the U.S. Constitution.
Constitution, America First!
Welcome back, Patriots, to America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
Except today, you've got me, Kurt Schlichter, Senior Columnist at Town Hall, and a whole bunch of other things.
And, uh, I gotta tell ya...
I'm very excited because, you know, we talk bad about reporters, but there are some people who actually go out there and get news no one else will touch.
One of those is America Greatness's own Julie Kelly, who has been the best voice Thank you for having me on, my friend.
the horrible abuses for people caught up in the trespassing prosecutions over the fracas on January 6th.
Julie, thanks for showing up on America's First.
Thank you for having me on, my friend.
I appreciate it.
Well, Julie, just today, before we get into what's happening to these alleged perpetrators and the abuses being heaped on them, because it's an absolute disgrace.
But today, in an effort to shame Republicans into voting for this sham Capitol Hill mini-riot, min-surrection, then.
They have brought out Officer Sicknick's mother, who's demanding to speak to the Republicans, and who's being labeled by the media as the mother of the fallen officer, as if he fell as a result of this Capitol Hill thing, which he did not.
It's all a lie.
It's all a scam.
What do you think?
I mean, I'm shocked.
You just told me that.
I hadn't heard it yet.
Here's the thing, Kurt.
If January 6th was as awful a stain on our democracy, worse since the Civil War, 9-11, blah, blah, blah, why do they have to keep making up lies about what happened?
The most contemptible lie, of course, was that Brian Sicknick was killed in the line of duty, which was a lie started by his employer, the U.S.
Capitol Police.
It was then embellished in an article January 8th in the New York Times that he was killed bludgeoned to death with fire extinguishers.
That story ended up being retracted.
But it didn't stop the Democrats to this day, the left, the media, and Republicans from lying about what happened to Brian Sicknick.
And now, tragically, his mother is playing along.
And what a shame for the memory and legacy of Brian Sicknick, who also is a veteran.
Shame on all of these people, including his family members, who are using what happened to him for political purposes.
I think it's really disgraceful, and I'm not going to put up with it.
Now, we'll be accused of not being caring and not being concerned, but it's all a lie, and until we stop caring about what the leftists say when they lie about us, we're never going to be able to stand up.
I wish some Republicans would stand up.
I wish some Republicans would stand up for the people caught up in the prosecutions.
following this.
Julie, you have been out there at the forefront of exposing what's going on.
Can you run it down for our listeners?
Well, basically, they are using the events of January 6th to criminalize political dissent on the right.
They saw this as a way to finally shut down Trump and Trumpism after four or five years of total failure, despite throwing everything at him and everyone around him Now they are targeting the most vulnerable, the most defenseless, which are people, hundreds of people who travel to the Capitol.
Yes, some engaged in allegedly violent behavior for which they should be punished.
But, you know, Kurt, we still have a Constitution.
We still have laws that apply to people, even though you disagree with their politics, even if they committed crimes.
I recall, you know, growing up, hearing this thing called Innocent Before Proven Guilty, you know, things like that, speedy trials.
Sounds radical to me, Julie.
Are you one of those Q people?
Well, it seems that there's two sets of rules.
Because you're getting people who basically trespass.
But they dared to do it in Nancy Pelosi's office, even though leftists rush into other people's offices in government buildings all the time.
They're getting the book thrown at them.
You got people lighting fires, beating up cops, blowing things up, and they're getting off with case dismissed.
Exactly right.
So the article I have up today is the man you're referring to who sat in a desk at Nancy Pelosi's office.
And, you know, strangely, Kurt, there were just these photographers all over the building that day, ready to take photos, download them, and send them to Christine Pelosi, who instantly tweeted out a picture of Richard Barnett, which led to death threats against his family.
Anyway, he did nothing violent.
He's not charged with any violent crime.
He turned himself in, was arrested January 8th, was hauled off to prison in Oklahoma, then to the D.C.
Trump prison, I call it, where he languished in jail, denied bail a few times, until finally Judge Chris Cooper released him at the end of April because the government not only doesn't have any evidence against him yet, he didn't commit any violent crime, and they have not even offered him a plea deal yet.
And this has been happening over and over.
Well, and let's see the 14,000 hours of surveillance video the Capitol Police have.
any race like well maybe they ought to just say i'm not taking a plea deal and i'm not waiving time i want a speedy trial i want it within the time frame let's do if you've got the proof put it out there feds put it out there well and let's see the 14 000 hours of surveillance video the capitol police have let's see it now look
i'm an actual lawyer who lawyers and the idea that one side in a litigation can arbitrarily decide it's not going to give potentially exculpatory evidence to the other side is Yeah, it's a security threat.
That's it.
People might see that these guys are largely walking around, taking pictures, selfies, not really doing anything other than standing in a public building.
Exactly right.
So you're right.
They're hiding it not just from the public and from the media, but they're hiding it from defendants and defense lawyers, too.
They're cherry-picking video evidence.
No one can see it.
Presenting it in court, where federal judges are litigating these cases Not even holding trials yet.
They're not debating whether this person is a flight risk or a danger to the community.
They're basically going with whatever DOJ is saying and keeping non-violent offenders like Richard Barnett and another man I talked to today who's been there since January, denying them bail.
They have terrible representation in most cases.
Public defenders.
There's a lot of veterans there.
Who hate them!
Many of these public defenders don't like them, and you can see that when they come out and run their own clients down.
It's unbelievable!
Yes, I've heard reports of public defenders telling the defendants, we hate Donald Trump, everything he stands for, etc, etc, but yeah, sure, I'll defend you.
Yeah, that sounds legit.
Okay.
Yeah, that sounds just great.
Julie, we only have less than a minute.
Do you see this as a harbinger of the kind of country that the liberal elite wants?
One where political opponents are prosecuted, connected people, like Hunter Biden, get off free, and fear pervades?
Because I think that's the purpose.
We only have about 15 seconds.
I absolutely do.
It's not only happening with DOJ.
We see it with the intelligence community, DHS.
They are turning our own foreign intelligence and surveillance capabilities for international terrorists, turning them against just regular Americans on the right.
It's terrifying, but that's what's happening, and that is the future.
Thank you, Julie Kelly.
This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
We're coming right back with your calls about the president.
That was good.
Awesome.
Thanks, Julie.
That was a lot of fun.
You know, I'm really, really disgusted by this whole thing.
I don't think people understand the seriousness of what's going on, and I think there has got to be an accountability.
You want a commission, a commission on this, under President DeSantis.
Right, or Republicans just form their own commission.
Let's just do our own independent, doesn't have to be Congress, just put people together.
People like us who are aware of the issues, and we'll vet all of this publicly, and people can pay attention, and they need to pay attention.
Because we have political prisoners, and guess what?
We're all next.
Yep, they are political prisoners.
I don't know.
Are the courts of appeal intervening in this?
I know that people are appealing these things and sometimes they're winning.
The D.C.
Circuit intervened and won the zip tie guy case and his mother and instructed the judge and the lower court to dismiss their detention order, which they did.
Yeah, when people attacking a federal courthouse in Portland get released O.R.
with Spring, Brian Sicknick.
They've been in jail for more than two months now.
They are appealing their latest pretrial detention orders issued at the end of April.
Yeah, when people attacking a federal courthouse in Portland get released OR that night, and then this happens.
And their records are expunged.
Yes, it is unsustainable.
Look, I think President DeSantis should pardon every one of them.
And just come out and say, I'm not going to have two sets of laws.
Since you decided you were going to dismiss these guys, I'm going to pardon these guys so it's equal.
But we're not playing two sets of rules.
That's just what I'd do.
Yes.
I think he could win on that issue alone.
I think that needs to be, gosh, I could go on for an hour with you.
I think that needs to be one of our bottom line requirements.
What do you think should happen to these guys?
All right.
Hey, thanks, Newell.
I really appreciate it.
You're the best.
Talk to you soon.
I'll talk to you soon.
Bye.
Okay.
Bye.
Okay.
That was a good hit.
What do you think?
Yeah.
Very good.
A minute and 35 seconds to air.
I think talking about all the dominant issues for 2024 is definitely another fun topic.
I mean, Seb says that in the aftermath of 2020, he says only two issues matter, and that's big tech and election integrity.
I would slap maybe critical race theory on as a third one.
Well, I think we're going to have a plethora of issues, and it will be a cumulative tsunami that just exhausts people.
And they're gonna look back and go, you know, I know there were mean tweets, but I could afford cheap hamburgers.
You know?
Yeah.
I think the election integrity thing is going to go about as far as it can because we're not going to get Democrats-controlled places to do anything.
But Republican places are improving it.
Yeah.
Even that useless Brian Kemp guy.
Well, he's scared of Vernon Jones, obviously, if he's going to do whatever he can to keep his seat.
But, yeah, Georgia, Texas, Florida.
There's no excuse for Arizona, Iowa, and Ohio to not do something as well.
Well, Ducey says he's doing something.
I heard him today.
Yeah, hopefully.
30 seconds.
Okay.
Seb's going to introduce you.
All right.
I will.
Let's see.
Who am I going to get?
This is a good call to go up first.
JR in Columbus.
I'll start with him.
Sounds good.
Okay.
15 seconds.
I got five up on this.
Yep.
We still have five up.
Yep.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, and this is America First with the one and only Kurt Schlichter.
Yeah.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
I am Kurt Schlichter, and I am back, and I am eager to hear what you have to say.
833-33-GORKA.
G-O-R-K-A.
I want to know.
Do you think the president should run again in 2024?
J.R.
and Columbus, what do you think?
Well, Kurt, I 100% want President Trump to run, but DeSantis was not on my radar screen, and I don't know why he wasn't.
Do you think DeSantis has a chance?
Well, which chance do you mean, JR?
Do you mean to win the nomination?
Win the presidency.
Well, look, I think Donald Trump is the 800-pound gorilla in the primaries.
If he runs in the Republican primary, I think he's going to win.
And that makes him the candidate in general.
If he doesn't, I think Ron DeSantis, with his great record in Florida, has a very good chance of winning the nomination.
And I think he's competitive against Kamala.
There's no way President Asterisk is going to run again.
Okay?
The guy, they're going to put him in his rocker, throw a shawl around him, hand him a bowl of mush, turn on murder she wrote and leave him there.
He's done.
Okay?
It's going to be Kamala.
Go ahead.
It's going to be Kamala against somebody.
And I think DeSantis could take him on.
But now look, J.R., we have to be unsentimental here.
Donald Trump has weaknesses.
They are going to attack him for the Capitol Hill minsurrection.
They are going to lie about his COVID record.
And there may be prosecutors in New York who are going to attempt to frame him, just like he's been attempted to be framed before.
Those are problems, whether we like them or not.
Do you think that makes him a weaker candidate?
Well, it's definitely a chink in the armor, and I wonder if President Trump wants to even go through this again.
I do, too.
But you heard Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, you know them very well, saying, yep, I'm sure he's going to run.
And I know he's keeping his options open.
But, I mean, he's going to be like 78 years old.
Does he need this aggravation?
He's already been a great president.
He's already had a questionable election result in a quote-unquote loss.
Thank you, JR.
I appreciate the call.
Lisette in California, you love Trump, but you're not sure you want him to run.
No, I don't want him to run.
You don't want him to run?
And why not?
I don't because of the hate towards him.
Can you expand on that a little, Lisette?
Well, it's just, there's so much hate out there towards him and the Democratic Party is willing to do anything against him.
They'll do anything at all.
And I don't want, I just think that if he, whoever he supports, which could be Ron DeSantis, would be a phenomenal choice and a wonderful thing to do.
If Trump supports him, the Trump supporters are going to stand by him.
I think that, I think that's so.
Look, The fact that the Democrats can electrify their electorate.
If Donald Trump's on the ballot, is something we have to take into account.
Again, I'm unsentimental about politicians, Lisette, and thank you for your call.
I consider them fungible.
Okay, that's a great law school word.
Fungible means like if you, you know, if you have a contract to deliver oranges and this one's bad, you can give them a different batch of oranges because oranges are fungible.
One is not unlike the other.
Now, Donald Trump is a politician.
Politicians are fungible.
If Donald Trump isn't going to be able to get it done, he needs to step aside.
This is not about making up for the joke that was the last November's election.
This is not about getting revenge.
This is not about personal vindication.
I appreciate all those things, but it's about our country.
Who is most likely to win has to be the only question.
Natalie, what do you think?
I'm a Latina from California and I think that we absolutely need President Trump because when bullies bully people, the only way to stop it is to hit them up front and challenge them.
I think that the Democrats have... I truly feel like I'm living in communist America.
When justice is so corrupt, it applies only to conservatives.
When the government brands me and forces me to do things so that I I feel like I'm wearing something, so I'm humiliated and forced to take a vaccine, which I haven't, where all of our intelligence institutions are so corrupt.
Well, Natalie, I get what you're coming from, and thank you for your call.
Good points.
I want you guys to call, and I'll have you up right after I have Nick Searcy up.
833-33-GORKA.
This is Kurt Schlichter sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorpa.
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It's OK.
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These things happen.
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Oh no.
So you think, hypothetically, President Trump would have no involvement in a President DeSantis cabinet at all?
Like no cabinet post at all?
Like he'd be an unofficial advisor, basically, just visiting the White House on a regular basis.
Look, the President's going to be behind whoever is eventually the nominee.
And he's going to have a lot to say.
I can imagine, if he doesn't have a position, he would still want to have a role.
He's going to be a kingmaker.
It absolutely is.
100%.
The question is, can he still be the king or not?
Which, yeah, great discussion so far.
It's interesting to get callers who actually agree he shouldn't run again.
Damaged goods, quote-unquote.
And we have Mr. Searcy on the line.
Wait a minute.
Is that international star of stage and screen Nick Searcy?
It absolutely is.
I can't believe how fortunate you are.
Oh my gosh.
You know, your potency comes through the wires.
I can feel it.
You can feel it through the radio.
The manliness.
Well, I'm going to ask you about your movie, which I'm not in.
Right.
Absolutely.
I won't admit to the fact that you stood me up.
I won't hold that against you for the rest of your life or anything.
Well, I kind of had to.
Since it was either that or get divorced.
I know that you made the wrong decision.
What can I say?
You've seen how hot my wife is.
I made the right decision.
Yeah.
What did you want to say?
To each his own, I guess.
How much ammo did you shoot?
We actually shot for about an hour and we had posters of famous communists.
And so we were taking turns putting bullets in the head of Stalin and Lenin and Marx.
It was fun.
That's beautiful.
I could've brought my Wilson Combat.
Your what?
I got Wilson Combat CQB.
Oh man, that would've been fun.
Why not have my Romanian friend Andy, who's a big gun nut, come and bring us about ten guns, and some of them were actually made by the communists.
So we were able to shoot communists with their own guns.
There's a kind of symmetry there that I like.
So what else you want to talk about?
I'm going to talk about your new movie.
Yeah, we'll talk about the old movie.
I want to sort of plug the fact that America America is now on sale now.
Okay, we'll do that first and then we'll close out with it too.
And then if you can stick around for like two minutes on the other side, you can pimp some more shamelessly.
We got to talk about John Cena.
Oh yes, yes.
John Cena.
It's John Cena.
And I'm actually a big wrestling fan.
It's very, very disturbing. - 10 seconds, stand by. - It's pathetic. - Welcome back to America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
Except I'm Kurt Schlichter.
You know me best as Senior Columnist at Town Hall, where you can read my columns every Monday, Wednesday.
I got a new one up called Disease Disarmed and Dumb.
You should check that out.
And of course tomorrow, Insurrection Obsession.
It's a very, very mean article.
So you're gonna love it!
And speaking of love, When I think of love, when I think of feelings, when I think of emotion and emoting, who comes to mind?
A legendary star of stage and screen who is a personal close friend of mine, Mr. Nick Sirisi.
Welcome to America First, Nick!
Hello, Kurt.
It's an honor to be here.
I'm proud to be mentioned from time to time in your mean articles.
Oh, you are a great American, and you actually have a starring role in my last Kelly Turnbull novel, Crisis.
I believe you had a cameo with a certain starlet.
Yes, you actually put in the sex scene that I demanded, and I appreciate that very much.
Well, this just goes to show why Hollywood is so short-sighted.
It doesn't give the people what they want, which is a Nick Searcy, Kate Upton love scene.
That's right.
I've never had a decent love scene.
Well, look, the nudity?
Necessary to the plot.
It's not exploitive at all.
Not gratuitous.
Absolutely not.
And no one can rock a thong on camera like you can.
But, Nick, you've got another movie that's already out, and then you're working on another.
Tell us about those.
Yes, there's a movie called America, America, God Shed His Grace on Me, which is now out at salemnow.com.
It features no nudity, but I do all my own stunts in it.
I ride many things.
I ride horses, motorcycles, cars, airplanes.
And scooters.
And I do it all myself.
And we talk to a lot of really smart people about how America has fallen apart in the last 250 years.
So it's there right now.
America, America, God shed his grace on thee.
You'll laugh and you'll learn a lot.
It turned out really well.
I'm proud of it.
Outstanding.
And now, you're filming another one right now.
In fact, you invited me to come join you shooting at Oak Tree Gun Club, a premier gun club in California.
And I must disclose, I represent them as a lawyer.
You invited me.
I was not able to attend because Irina's Cuban family came in to visit to surprise her for her birthday.
And you know I'm not good at, no matter how many guns I have, I'm not ticking off a Cuban woman.
No, that's true.
They would have enjoyed coming, though, because we used our time at the shooting range to put up posters of famous communists throughout history and blow holes in them.
And it was a lot of fun.
Oh my gosh, that's just, that's like my dream afternoon.
Now, Nick, America Wonders, I know the audience here at America First is very curious.
What's your favorite caliber?
Your favorite caliber?
My favorite what?
Caliber.
Mine is .45, a classic American .45 ACP, just like the M1911 I carried in the Army until they gave me the Beretta 9mm, which I also carried in the Army.
Well, I'm also very partial to the 9mm.
That's the gun I'm the most familiar with, having used it in It's kind of a cop gun in Hollywood, and so with all the law enforcement officials I've played, I've become pretty familiar with the knife.
Well, if I remember correctly, you're, as Chief Inspector Art Mullen of the U.S.
Marshals in the outstanding show, Justified.
I believe your character had a Glock 17 or 19.
I'm not sure which.
Yes, I believe that's true.
I worked with that gun for six years, so that's the one I'm most familiar with.
That's outstanding.
Now, Nick, before we talk about what it's like to be a conservative in Hollywood, what's it like to be a movie star here in LA?
Are you like walking through the Ralphs, you know, picking through the spring mix salad, and then somebody comes up and goes, you're that guy!
Does that happen?
Well, sometimes they am, although these days it's like I'm walking through and I'm the only one without a mask on, so that's why they look at me.
But yeah, I get recognized actually more often in other states than I do in California.
And maybe that's just because they're so used to seeing big stars like me in L.A.
that they don't think it's any big deal.
Well, you know, they try and be cool, but if you've got Nick Searcy in the cereal aisle with you, you're going to talk about it.
You're going to tell people.
Now, you're a conservative in Hollywood and an outspoken one.
Follow him on Twitter if you want to see just how outspoken, folks.
Yes, Nick Searcy.
Parental guidance suggested!
I work blue, as they say.
I work blue.
Well, it's very peaceful.
Nobody bothers me very much.
Yeah.
You work blue.
Gets a little blue.
It's not for the kinder.
Right.
Now, what is it like being a conservative in Hollywood?
Well, it's very peaceful.
Nobody loves it very much.
A little piece of this, a little piece of that.
Yeah.
Well, actually, in my case, at least, at least it's not like some shock to somebody when I show up on the set and they discover, you know, that I happen to be a conservative.
They know already.
These days, if I get a job, I don't have to worry about it.
They know who I am.
They obviously either don't have a problem with it or They need me, in spite of the fact that they hate me.
So, either way, it's fine.
As long as they pay you.
Yeah, and I find it, personally, I find it much more pleasant to not be worried about that anymore.
I mean, I'm at the age where I don't care that much about if I work that much anymore.
I like to do what I like to do.
A lot of the stuff that Hollywood is sending me these days is not stuff I want to be part of anyway.
You don't strike me as somebody who would fit in in a, you know, a woke epic.
No, I mean, it's like, you know, it's like they send over all these things and it's always, you know, okay, it's the old white racist guy, and I'm like, well, I don't really want to do that.
I've played enough Democrats in my life.
Oh, you went there!
Nick, but don't you go anywhere.
I want you back at the other side of the break to tell us about John Cena.
And tell you what, think of his humiliating video yesterday.
This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
I am Kurt Schlichter.
Stick around.
We got more Nick Searcy and then more calls.
The mics are live once again.
Clear.
Alive with Nick Sirse.
Alive!
He's alive!
So yeah, the John Cena thing is just outrageous, isn't it?
seen a thing it's just outrageous isn't it what the hell have you ever had a i'll ask you on the air have you ever had a contract offered to you where it specifically said you can't run down the chai comms you know i i haven't had that but it is funny that i had a meeting with somebody about a script that i had written with a partner It was sort of a terrorism script.
They sit on the border and at the end of the meeting they said, do you have any way, do you think we could change it a little bit so that it might appeal to China?
And I started laughing because I thought they were joking.
And they were serious.
Well, wait, we could make the villains the Uyghur.
Well, yeah, that's what I said.
How would you do it?
And they'd go, well, The Chinese really hate the Japanese.
You think the terrorists could be Japanese?
I was like, well, what would they want?
That's one kind of take.
What would Japanese terrorists want?
I mean, I don't get it.
I don't know.
Efficiency?
Right.
Kindliness?
For terrorists, our demands include politeness.
Okay.
Think the terrorists could be Japanese?
No!
No!
I don't think they could be Japanese.
I don't.
That's terrible.
Good lord.
God.
Hollywood, you know, for the number of supposedly smart people who go to Hollywood, it's a remarkably dumb bunch of people.
Well, they're killers.
I mean, I think that's part of it, you know, that they're just, they're not brave people.
They're crafty, but they're not really brave and principled, you know.
Yeah, I'm a Los Angeles trial lawyer and I think they're unprincipled.
That's where we're at.
30 seconds.
That's how bad it is.
Standing by.
Okay, 30 seconds, then we're back.
Give mine a short segment.
Three minutes, 50 seconds.
Roger.
I'm going to give him the number, talk about Sina, throw it to Nick.
We'll bounce it back and forth.
I'll thank Nick and then pimp the number again and boom.
Sounds good.
Five seconds.
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Now, continuing my conversation with international star of stage and screen, Nick Searcy.
Nick, did you have the opportunity to see the hostage video from John Cena yesterday where he apologized to China for accurately pointing out that Taiwan's a country?
Yes, I did.
And, you know, I am actually a very, very faithful WWE fan.
I've gotten hooked on it and I've watched it for 30 years.
And I thought, really, the first time I saw it, I thought, this could be the most brilliant heel turn in the history of wrestling.
Oh, nice use of the lingo.
Very good use of the lingo.
Because, you know, Cena has been the big pro-America hustle, loyalty, respect, you know, playing the Marine in the movies.
And all of a sudden, he turns communist heel.
This would draw money, Kurt.
We could make some money here.
If I'm the WWE, I'm thinking, let's bring Cena back, he's pro-China communist, we'll have the crowd all chanting USA, and we'll squash the hell out of him, and we'll make a fortune.
Oh my goodness.
Well, that's certainly an option.
Now, have you ever had in one of your contracts, hey, you can't talk bad about China!
Not exactly, but I have had a meeting with some people that were interested in a script that I had written that were, at the end of the meeting, they said, is there any way we could fashion this script so that we can make it more palatable to China?
And I started laughing, because I thought they were kidding, but they were serious.
And I said, well, what do you think would make it better for China?
And they said, well, could you change the bad guys in the movie to the Japanese?
The Chinese really hate the Japanese.
What kind of terrorists are they, you know?
We're going to flood America with low-cost, quality automobiles.
It's hardly Hans Gruber.
What would the Japanese terrorists, pouring over our borders, what would they want?
Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
But we'll be seeing you.
Where can we see you, Nick Searcy, in your new movie?
You can see it at www.salemnow.com.
It's called America, America, God Shed His Grace on Me.
It's available for download, streaming, or for DVD.
And my new movie's called The Trouble with Free Speech, and it'll be coming out later this year.
I can't wait.
Nick Sirsi, thank you so much for coming on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
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Yeah, and a full call board once again.
And over 1,800... Oh, and Alan the Liberal is there!
Oh, fun.
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Alright, I got 11 minutes.
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Some mixed opinions on the big question of the day.
Of course, one person suggested just Trump DeSantis as the ticket.
I see that.
I see some folks have suggested that.
A few people admittedly saying, like, oh yeah, we don't think he should run again because he'd go through just more slings and arrows unnecessarily.
Which I'm like, yeah.
I mean, he can take it, of course, but...
Does he need the aggravation?
I don't know.
What else is he going to do?
Oh, I don't know.
Enjoy his billions of dollars and his supermodel wife?
Yeah, but he's not like that.
He's got to do something.
He can't go back to reality television.
He'll never get anything approved as far as real estate.
They're boxing him in.
The Democrats are trying to get rid of him.
It's so dumb.
That's his only option.
Well, look, I think there's an argument to be made that they did him a favor taking him off social media because He doesn't provide the same kind of target he did.
I mean, they can keep crying about the minsurrection, but, uh... The unarmed insurrection.
Unarmed insurrection.
Oh, God.
You know, I was in the L.A.
riots.
I mean, I was physically in the army.
And to call that a riot, you know... That was kind of an insurrection, right?
More or less.
That was kind of insurrection-y, I gotta tell you.
It was a little edgy.
I'm looking at that.
I've been in bars that have been more rowdy.
I mean like in Utah.
Well you were in the military.
I think that was all bars for a while, right?
It was pretty much.
That's where I saw most of my action.
The rest of the time I was watching cars.
But yeah, they are just going to beat him over the head with everything, with January 6th, with everything.
Yeah, the thing is, I mean, do we want to fight about that, or do we want to fight about gas prices?
Yeah.
Well, even all the stuff with the New York Attorney General.
I'm convinced that they are trying to go after him, and they absolutely do want to throw him in jail.
And if they could, they would, but... I think that's going to be a huge problem for them if they do.
For him or for them?
For them.
Oh.
I mean, at this point I wouldn't put him past him to just make up evidence just to get someone.
No, I have no doubt that they would try and frame him again.
False confessions.
I think they just want to drag it out to make it look like it.
Because I was reading today, like in the bottom they said, expected to go until next summer.
Oh yeah, make it an issue.
That's actually one more thing I thought about with the whole, the Supreme Court taking out that Mississippi law on abortion that could finally overturn Roe v. Wade.
Of course, I would love to see abortion finally outlawed, but people pointed out that decision would come down in like the summer of 2022.
And if they did finally overturn Roe v. Wade, that would just energize their voters and make our voters complacent going into the midterms, which would not- Oh, I don't think our people are going to be complacent.
Hopefully not.
I think they're going to be so pissed off by this crusty old pervert.
They're going to crawl over broken glass to vote.
I think it's the other side that's going to be demoralized.
The abortion thing only really energizes people it doesn't apply to.
Humans' sexual relations are not an option.
They're the ones who get most freaked out about it.
Yeah, but a buddy of mine and I were actually talking about this, how abortion is one of, like, the very few issues that galvanizes the right in any way comparable to what the left does.
You know, the left has their marches for gun control, global warming.
You know, what's the one issue, other than Trump and his rallies, what's the one other thing that draws hundreds of thousands of people out to march on our side every year?
It's the pro-life rallies.
Oh yeah, and I think there are a lot of pro-life Democrats.
But there are a lot of... I think the pro-choice Republicans have all left.
Remember the socially liberal, fiscally conservative ones who always end up doing everything liberal?
Do we know where you want to do Angel Tree in this hour?
Why not right at the top?
Right at the top?
Wow.
Well, hold on.
I have three segments this hour.
Yeah, you got time.
Why don't I tentatively do it third seg?
Because I got three segments in a row.
Second segment.
I got no guest for 40 minutes.
All right, coming in in 40 seconds.
Seb's going to introduce you again.
again.
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This is America First, and I'd like to introduce our very special and I'd like to introduce our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Welcome to America First, Patriots.
I am Kurt Schlichter.
I'm a noted Los Angeles trial lawyer.
You know me as the senior columnist at townhall.com, where I write every Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
And I do my VIP podcast called Unredacted, where I scoff at the Federal Communications Commission's rules on profanity.
I just, I scoff.
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But I'm also a retired United States Army infantry colonel, where I served in Desert Storm, running the world's most heavily armed car wash, and I did civil affairs in Kosovo after 9-11 for 16 months.
So, oh, and I was in the Los Angeles riots.
So when you're talking to me about insurrections, okay, please do not Start wetting yourself about January 6th, okay?
I was saying offline, I've been in worse brawls, in bars, in Utah, okay?
I was in the L.A.
riots.
People were getting killed, stuff was on fire.
That's an insurrection sponsored by Maxine Waters, incidentally, who couldn't do anything but pour gasoline on it.
So don't tell me about January 6th.
I don't need a commission.
I was in the Los Angeles Riots with the 3rd Battalion, 160th Infantry out of Englewood for three weeks.
M16 in hand and it was an A1 so it was fully auto, not an A2 with burst.
That's for you 11 Bravos out there.
You know who I'm talking to.
I want to talk to all of you.
I'm talking this hour about Whether the president should run for re-election.
Whether he should go the full Grover Cleveland and run again in 2024 against Kamala Harris, because we know that old grandpa bad finger ain't gonna run again.
That dude's barely making it out of the Oval Office, you know, without Andrew McCarthy holding him up.
Give me a call.
833-33-GORKA.
That's 833-33-46-752.
I've got John, Randy, Barry, and Dave on the line.
I've got Alan the Liberal.
Alan, I will get to you.
Don't go anywhere.
Now, what do I think?
Well, you might think, Kurt's going to be a cheerleader for the president to run again.
But I've got my doubts, folks.
I have a strategy degree from the United States Army War College, which is a party war college.
But nonetheless, I look at things strategically.
Is Trump the best candidate for 2024?
I'm not sure, because he comes in with a lot of baggage.
And some of that baggage It's stuff he can't control.
He can't control how, when the liberals see them.
You know, they promptly lose control of their bladder and bowels.
It's a mess.
If he runs again, the Democrats are going to be excited.
They're going to be motivated.
They're going to be donating money.
And the media is going to be all in.
Now, of course, against the Republican media, it's going to be all in anyway.
And we shouldn't let the enemy have a veto over our strategy.
But we have to understand that going in.
And that has to be part of our calculus.
Is it fair?
No.
But we're adults.
We don't talk the language of fair.
That's for teenagers going, it's not fair to make me do my homework!
Don't talk to me about fare.
Talk to me about how you are going to win.
Who do I want to run in 2024?
The person most likely to win the election for the Republicans.
Because folks, it's existential.
We got China going crazy and taking over The Western Pacific, when it isn't sending horrible, horrible viruses our way.
We got gas lines and gas prices going through the roof.
We got a Middle East in flames.
We've got inflation.
We got racist theories being injected into every aspect of our society.
Sports!
Entertainment!
The media!
Academia!
Government!
Our schools!
Institutionalized racism!
Which goes by the nice name, Critical Race Theory.
Okay?
This is serious stuff, folks.
And we have got to win.
Is Trump the guy to do it?
John, in South Carolina, is Trump the guy we should back in 2024?
Excuse the labored Star Trek pun, but it's great to talk to Captain Kurt.
I know you're a colonel.
Listen, don't let that taint the call, okay?
Well, look, he was a No.
6, I'm a No.
6.
Or was.
By the way, I learned a lot about officering from Captain Kirk.
Always be confident, make a decision, and try and score with a hot green alien chick.
That was when I was single, folks.
There you go, there you go.
Listen, every time I hear this question come up about Donald Trump running again, I hear the Steely Dan song, Do It Again.
Back, Jack, do it again.
You remember that one?
I do, and I also know what Steely Dan was named after.
Yeah, I do too, and we don't want to go into that.
We're not going there.
That's a road we're not taking.
Just so you know, I'm with you.
I know what it is.
My position, in a nutshell, is that Donald Trump is too big a target.
I initially opposed Donald Trump for the very reason that I figured that his four years were going to be like what they were.
I was uncannily accurate in what was going to happen to him.
And so I projected that, and I just really did not want him to run until it came down to him and Hillary Clinton.
And it was at that point I went... Boy, that was... That's the easiest decision I ever had to make.
It really was, wasn't it?
And so I am leaning right... You know, I have a rabid raccoon over Hillary Clinton.
Absolutely.
But here's the thing for me.
I really think he would do greater service to the country if he kept his head down and actually worked behind the scenes and went to some degree on silent running.
Yeah, that sounds like President Trump.
Well, if he had a mission, and you had a really key point, if he had a mission, he could.
And he's actually doing relatively well with it.
I agree with you.
I know you do, and that's the reason I suggested it.
I'm going to throw a bank shot at you that you probably have heard, and it's this, and I'll keep it brief.
If there were an open seat that he could run for the House of Representatives, get elected, and then take over Nancy Pelosi's spot, and then impeach both Trump and Harris, Excuse me, impeach both Biden and Harris.
I really think that it would be a good mission for him.
There's an open seat in Florida, but the problem is that it's primarily black.
And so he would have tremendous difficulty winning that seat.
John, thank you for your call.
I think, you know, John, thank you for your call.
I think that's an interesting idea.
But some people have other ideas.
Dave, what do you think?
Dave in Ohio.
Hey, Kurt.
This kind of talk is the stuff that drives me away from the GOP and talk radio.
What kind of talk is that, Dave?
I went through this.
I'm 64 years old, been voting a lot of elections, and I was dead set against being involved with the GOP after they put up McCain and Palin.
And then we had good candidates come up in the next cycle.
Jindal, and Scott Walker, Ben Carson, and everybody wanted to rehash the same old candidates.
Talk about the same, you know, wet horses that run before and just because they were popular.
And I've heard this talk.
Well, what talk is that?
This talk you're saying right now... Hold on, Dave.
Let me say something.
Do you want me to not tell you what I think?
Look, I'm a strategist.
I'm a lawyer.
I have analyzed the information.
I think there are weaknesses there.
I'm going to say them out loud.
Would you prefer I not do that?
No, I prefer you do.
But what it sounds like, and I've been listening to you, And I listened to Dr. G and a few of the others.
Is that they're not, I guess, determined.
Determined to what?
To say Trump should not run.
He's best behind the scenes if you can keep him there.
You put Trump out front, it's gonna all be a Trump parade, and you're not gonna have a big GOP following.
You'll have people waving the banners and jumping on the wagon, but not enough to overcome whoever the A Democratic candidate is going to be it, be it Harris.
Well, that's a good point, Dave, and thank you for your call.
I want to hear what you have to say, America.
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Careful about going that close up.
I know, right?
Sometimes local stations will play liners, so... Any word on our possible special guest?
Uh, no.
Ain't gonna happen.
Okay.
All right.
No worries, then.
No, I'll just do, uh... You wanna do Angel Tree here?
No, I'll do that, uh...
I'm gonna do Angel Tree here.
Where are we at?
Yeah, I'll do Angel Tree here.
He'll do Angel Tree here.
Yeah, I'll start off with Angel Tree, then I'll get back to... I'll call for calls, I'll do Angel Tree, and then I'll take the calls we got.
If you can get me an updated screenshot.
The liberal dropped off!
Yeah, you gotta be careful talking about him hot on mic, because they'll always drop off.
Oh, I'm gonna mock him.
I'm gonna say, Alan, call back.
I want to talk to you.
I don't want to talk to just people who agree with me.
God, there's nothing more boring.
I know these people are like, Kurt doesn't want conflict.
I'm literally a trial lawyer!
Okay, that's literally my job is to deal directly with people who disagree with me all the time.
The last guest host we had on, Mark Davis, he said he wanted to take calls, and one of them was literally a guy calling and saying the moon landing didn't happen.
And that was just, uh... I would have taken it.
We haven't heard one name that's funny other than DeSantis, though.
Oh, yeah, other than Trump, yeah.
Nobody else has any suggestions.
Which, it makes sense.
I mean, he's the pretty clear number two at this point.
Even Don Jr.' 's name doesn't come up as much as I would think it would.
Oh, you know, there's a dynasty problem.
We've been burned before.
And I like Don Jr.
He's a good guy.
But, you know... Again, politicians are fungible and I am unsentimental.
I'm not sold on DeSantis yet.
He's still skeptical that he's a current politician.
A little bit.
I mean, I had that awakening.
When the establishment starts attacking them, then I'll go in.
I did have that awakening myself.
I kind of had that awakening myself with Josh Hawley.
Like, I'm not really on the Josh Hawley train anymore.
But, I mean, if it's not Trump, it's got to be, obviously it has to be someone else.
Well, look, the advantage of a career politician is he knows, he has technical and tactical skills.
And, you know, I'd rather career politicians, look, I just want somebody to win.
Who isn't Nikki Haley?
Not Nikki Haley, not Dan Crenshaw, not Christy Noem.
Oh my gosh, she sure... She had her chance and she blew it, man.
Oh man, and she keeps tweeting out all this stuff trying to make her look conservative-woke.
She blew it.
And as soon as the Chamber of Commerce calls you, you're gonna fold like a cheap suit.
Chamber of Commerce and Amazon!
She literally caved to Amazon's demands on that transgender bill.
So that was the moment when people were like, okay, yeah, you're done.
And now, at this point, the thing I feel bad for other Republican governors, like Abbott, if only because they are trying to play catch-up to DeSantis.
They're all just trying to do what he does, even though he's doing worse.
Yeah.
And look, Abbott's been weak on a few things.
Who?
Abbott?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and now he's trying to be hardcore.
He got Con Kerry.
That's fine.
Look, if they behave because of fear of being voted out, let's rock.
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The question before us, folks, is whether Donald Trump should run again in 2024.
Pete in California, what say you?
Yeah, hey, how you doing?
Doing great.
Thanks for taking my call.
My pleasure.
What do you think about, what do you think?
Yeah, so, you know, it's kind of a hard thing to kind of throw around because Trump Didn't deserve all of that crap that he got from the media and from the politicians, right?
From the Democrats.
And that is the baggage that is behind him.
It's not because of him.
Well, it kind of is and kind of isn't, but they hated him because he stepped into their agenda and he stopped the whole great reset that Europe is into.
He stood up against Europe.
He stood up against them taking advantage of the United States.
He stood up for America.
The only one that I would say that would be closest to what Trump is would be DeSantis.
Well, Pete, let me ask you something real quick, Pete.
Donald Trump is going to get abuse.
Now, here's the counter-argument.
Ron DeSantis or whoever else the Republicans run who better not be Nikki Haley.
Yeah, I agree.
Is going to get abused.
Should we make a decision based on the fact that the media is going to abuse Donald Trump?
When it's going to abuse, lie, and slander about any Republican.
Well, that's almost kind of like saying You know, I want somebody who's going to be president, but I also want peace, right?
And that's great.
But in order to change things right now, the Democrats, they're doing everything that they can, even against the books, with supporting Antifa, supporting BLM.
And if we get another president in there who does nothing about that, we will still have that opportunity for the communist side of the Democrats to take over our country later on.
Well, Pete, I think, and thank you for your call, Pete, I think the whole Democrat side is communist right about now.
I'm not sure where those blue dog Democrats, you know, the moderate Democrats are, but if they are somewhere, they're in hiding.
Barry, in L.A., you think Ron DeSantis would be a better choice than the president running again in 2024.
Why's that?
Okay, Kurt, I just want to let you know I'm a huge fan.
Used to love when you called into John Gibson.
Love your columns.
The Thomas A.P.
Brathouse quip the other day was incredible.
Well, you know, as a Los Angeles trial lawyer, I have just enough ego to be entirely comfortable with you praising me.
I mean, that's cool.
But what I really want to know, because I already know how awesome I am, just ask me.
Why do you think DeSantis would be better than the president in 2024?
Well, DeSantis, so with Trump, we know what we're going to get.
We know what we're going to get from him, which is a good thing, but we also know what we're going to get from the media, the libs, which are the same, and the rhinos, which is not a bad thing.
With DeSantis, more of an unknown what we might get internationally.
Domestically, I think he'd do a good job.
So it's, you know, Barry, I wrote an article Monday called Bring on the Asperger's Republican, which I know a superfan like you has read.
And my theory was guys like DeSantis just don't respond to liberal media cues.
And that means they don't get caught up in little tussles with them.
They just achieve.
That's what they do.
That's all they do.
Like conservative terminators.
You think there's anything to that argument?
Yes, I like that argument.
At the same time, I think we are at a point where we need somebody to aggressively defend themselves against the media.
I think that's why Trump became so popular with a lot of people, was he wasn't going to get pushed around and coward the media like the majority of Republicans do.
Are you talking about Nikki Haley again?
I could name them all.
Paul Ryan is the first one to come to mind.
That guy.
I had blocked him out of my mind, and you brought him back, Barry.
And thank you for your call.
Yeah. - Yeah.
I think there's a lot to it.
I think we need a Republican who knows how to fight.
That's a given now.
We are not ever going to have another human puffball like Jeb.
No more Mitts.
The senator from Miracle Whip.
We're not going to have him anymore.
We need a fighter.
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I'm Kurt Schlichter, your guest host today, taking you all the way up to the 6 o'clock hour on the East Coast, the 3 o'clock hour here in California, which means I may be able to get home within the next month on L.A.'s freeways, which are packed up again and impacted which are packed up again and impacted like a faulty colon, as it were.
And this is a special hi to you guys watching on Rumble.
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Of course, every time I dance out on a dance floor, somebody comes and sticks a spoon in my mouth so I don't swallow my tongue.
But it'll be highly amusing.
And speaking of highly amusing, here's one of my best friends in the world, a guy named Cam Edwards.
Gun guru, patriot, and very, very good friend.
Oh, no Cam yet.
I'm sorry.
Wrong segment!
How foolish I am.
Goodness.
Well, what we're talking about today is whether the president, and when I say the president, I mean Donald J. Trump, whether the president should run again in 2024.
Do what Grover Cleveland did, which is skip a term.
I've got doubts.
I am not convinced yet.
Now, if he is nominated, I will support him.
I will go to the wall.
But my preference is for our next nominee to be the nominee who is most likely to win.
And to assess Donald Trump fairly and accurately, he comes with some baggage.
And a lot of that baggage has to do with the Democrats.
Because that will energize them.
They will get a lot more money.
They will get the media into a frenzy.
You will not be able to go through an airport without being molested by CNN, screaming about Donald Trump, and insurrections!
That's a challenge that needs to be overcome.
Maybe it can be overcome, maybe it can't.
Judy in Brooklyn, what do you think?
Hey, Kurt, thanks for taking my call.
Okay, listen, they create the baggage.
It's not real baggage.
It's full of created baggage, okay?
Made-up story.
So here, I absolutely would love to have him run again.
He is unique.
And he was successful.
His record speaks for itself for the economy, plus plus plus, and everything.
Let me just tell you, you'd be afraid around the craziness with Trump.
I prefer the craziness around Trump if they want to do whatever, rather than the craziness that has been going on for the past only hundred days already that these diabolical Democrats have already done.
Well, Judy, let me slow you down here.
I don't care about the craziness.
I like the craziness.
You know, people are going, at least we don't have mean tweets.
I loved the mean tweets!
I love that.
I'm just looking at it.
Is this the most effective course of action for winning in 2024?
That's all I care about.
If it's Donald Trump, okay.
If it's not, Well, Kirk, let me tell you, 75 million plus people voted for him, I believe way more, and I think that they will want him so badly.
I mean, take a look in the past hundred days what's been going on.
Well, we haven't, and thank you for your call, Judy.
Marge in Minneapolis, you think Trump's too old?
We need somebody younger!
Yes, I think that we need to have somebody younger.
I know there was mainly older people who vote Republican, and the younger generation have been brainwashed.
And what we need is a younger person.
And nobody's even thought about Don Jr.
You know, he's been following his dad's footsteps.
You know, we were just talking on Rumble about Don Jr.
a moment ago, Marge, and thanks for your call.
Do we need somebody younger?
Well, let me think about that.
Joe Biden's obviously giving a bad name to the elderly, because this decrepit old weirdo is, you know, it's the great unspoken truth.
It's like the emperor's new clothes.
This is the emperor's, you know, new sundowning.
Okay?
The dude is manifestly in decline.
You can't look at president asterisk and think anything but that guy.
Nope, he's not all there anymore.
And I'm not doing this to be disrespectful or mean or because I oppose him.
It's not that.
I'm trying to be objective.
I'm trying to be objective about the president and the pluses and minuses of him running again.
And I'm trying to be objective about the age of Joe Biden.
And the simple simple fact is he's like 142 years old.
I think Donald Trump's still got it.
If there's a reason not to support him, it ain't because of his age.
This is Kurt Schlichter sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorka here on America First.
Be right back.
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Mic's on.
I cannot believe that I called up Cam before.
I've never done that.
No worries.
It's the second shortest segment of the hour.
It's a forgettable segment.
So it's, you know, it's one of those times where no one cares.
That's why you want to get to the next segment, which is a good eight minutes or nine, I think, seven minutes.
Right.
See, usually I'm, I'm checking these things off and I didn't do that today.
Yeah.
I'll let you know either in the break or if he calls, if they call in during the, during the segment, I'll let you know over your head.
I screwed up.
No worries.
I'm going to give him crap for it.
Lord knows it was his fault.
Damn right!
Hey, it's Jeff with Kurt Schlichter.
How are you?
Good.
I'm going to put you on hold.
Just so you know, we're live on Rumble during the commercial break, so the mics are live then.
Alright?
Hang on.
Yeah, please.
Mics are on.
Hey, player.
Hello, how are you, sir?
Well, I'd be a lot better if I didn't introduce you at the beginning of last segment.
I'm like, and here's Cam Edwards!
And they're like, there's no Cam!
It's the wrong segment!
Whoops.
That's alright.
First time I've done it.
First time I've done it.
It's called a tease.
Exactly.
Exactly.
What are we going to talk about?
I don't know.
Guns?
Why don't we start with Concealed Carry and then talk with David, what's his name, Chadwick?
Chipman.
Chipman.
Yes.
My fingers, every time I type his name, want to spell his last name as Chimpman.
As if he's, you know, a sidekick in every which way but loose.
Left turn, Dave!
See, it's funny because it's true.
Right.
Did you get a chance to watch any of the hearings?
I saw some of it.
I saw him tell Cruz he wants to ban AR-15s.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Did he ever give a decent explanation of whether or not he's going to prosecute Hunter Biden for his gun crime?
No.
He basically gave the boilerplate answer of, well, if I'm confirmed, I'll look into it.
But ACF might have already looked So, you know, it might be nothing that he can do.
Yeah.
That's a big problem.
Right.
Would we get the same consideration?
Oh, wait.
I'm doing it again, aren't I?
Right?
Asking for consistency?
Look, I don't really care as much about what the rules are as long as there's only one set of them.
Uh-huh.
Unfortunately, they are very much assumed to be two sets of rules.
Yeah, which is unsustainable over the long term.
Right.
These are not wise people.
They think history began in 2008.
30 seconds.
Or 1619, maybe, and then skipped to 2008.
Anything happen in between there?
Nothing of interest except to racists.
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It is my pleasure to once again introduce one of my best friends, gun guru, farmer, raconteur, legendary raconteur, legendary karaoke artist, Cam Edwards of Bearing Arms.
How are you, Cam?
I am good, Kurt.
How are you, sir?
Well, it's nice to have you actually there and not someone whispering in my ear, he's the next segment!
He's the next!
You and I have been doing hits together, one of us hosting, you hosting, me hosting, for maybe 10 years, and I had never done that before.
No, it's not even a morning show.
You can't even blame it on, like, the lack of sleep.
Oh, that sounds awful.
As a cat man, that's awful.
hunger.
I've been fasting since last night.
Oh, that sounds awful.
Yeah, you've eaten with me, so you know.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had we at CPAC a couple years ago, before this whole pandemic insanity, you and I had a wonderful steak dinner.
That was so now now.
Great.
I'm going to drool on air.
So are we going to talk steak or are we going to talk gun?
I could talk either, man.
I could talk reverse sear over grilling for hours, but there's so much going on gun-wise, we better get to that, because you are the editor of BearingArms.com, which is a Salem-affiliated property, so you and I are on the same team, and you know this stuff.
Well, Governor Greg Abbott just signed constitutional carry in Texas.
What the hay?
Yeah, big mistake, man.
This is a meaty Second Amendment bill.
Nicely played.
Thank you very much.
A little segue in the radio.
Anyway, I think that this is good news for gun owners, not just in Texas, but really around the country.
And simply because of the footprint that Texas has.
You know, we're talking about almost 10% of the U.S.
population who will now be able to legally carry a firearm.
As long as they can lawfully own it, they can legally carry it.
No license required.
No government permission slip needed.
This is huge.
Texas is the 21st state to adopt constitutional carry, but certainly the biggest in terms of population.
And I think it adds pressure to other red states like Indiana, Ohio, Georgia, Florida to get this done as well.
Now, Cam Edwards, you nobody knows more about gun goings on than you.
So you've obviously been monitoring the progress of constitutional carries.
It's spread from Vermont to now 21 of 50 states.
Have you seen any statistics that tell us how constitutional carry has changed, either for good or for ill?
Homicide statistics.
Yeah, no, not really.
I mean, look, gun control advocates, they point to Missouri, right?
And that's the one state they point to, saying, well, look, violent crime went up in Missouri when they got rid of their license to carry, even when they got rid of their permit to purchase.
Missouri's gun laws used to be so bad that before you could go to a gun store and go through a background check to buy a handgun, you had to get permission from your local police department.
They'd put you through another background check.
And, you know, they're talking about the rise in violent crime since the end of those gun control laws or those.
Yeah.
At the end of those gun control laws.
But that's the only thing that they can point to, which tells me that perhaps it's not constitutional carry that is to blame for Missouri's rise in violent crime.
Perhaps it's a soft-on-crime approach in cities like Kansas City and St.
Louis that's to blame for that rise in violent crime.
But, you know, look at Oklahoma.
Oklahoma passed its Constitutional Carry Bill last year, and Oklahoma City was actually one of the few states in the nation that saw a decline in its homicide rate.
And just, you know, homicides are shooting up in places like New York City and Los Angeles and Chicago.
Murders actually dropped in Oklahoma City, where you could now lawfully carry a firearm as long as you're a legal donor.
I still find it bizarre that a guy like me, I'm a lawyer.
I was an Army colonel.
I commanded at the battalion level, multiple battalions at once, in civil support operations, like literally on the street.
I've been deployed twice.
I had a top-secret clearance.
I'm a lawyer, no criminal record, and I can't get a Los Angeles permit.
In California.
Why would anyone imagine that constitutional care is going to change anything for the criminals when it's just normal people not having to go through a dance to exercise their Second Amendment right?
That's exactly right.
And it doesn't change the criminal, right?
I mean, the folks who are illegally carrying today are going to be the ones that are illegally carrying tomorrow.
But this does ensure that folks don't have an extra barrier between themselves and their Second Amendment rights, which of course is why Democrats hate this idea, because they want to put as many roadblocks between you and your individual rights as possible.
They hate the idea of constitutional carry, even though, you know, it actually, Vermont, a fairly liberal state, was the first state to really have constitutional carry.
This is why they object to it, because it does mean more freedom, and more importantly, it means less power and less control for them.
And there is nothing these folks hate more than giving up power to normal people, and And that's what firearms are.
They are power in the sense that you have the power to defend yourself.
And I love these folks going, if you're a real man, you'd use your fists.
What, against like 20 guys with bats?
I was trained at Fort Benning not to play fair when it comes to fighting.
You win the game.
I'm not here to prove my manhood.
I'm here to protect myself and my family and my property.
Cam, I want to talk to you about this David Chipman guy, this new ATF nominee.
Can you hold over into the next segment for a couple minutes?
Yeah, absolutely.
You bet.
Excellent!
Well, we are locked and loaded with the great Cam Edwards of BearingArms.com.
He's going to join us, and we're going to talk about this very scary individual, David Chipman.
He wants to take your AR-15.
Why?
Just because.
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Clear.
Mic's still live.
Alright, I will, uh... I will, uh, pimp the number again, ask our friends, uh, still holding to keep holding.
I don't know how many of them there are.
Still got five on the line.
It's on the full call board, yeah.
Yeah, we... Okay.
Keep in mind, we have Sean Parnell.
Okay, we'll have Sean.
I'll get to Randy, because he's been holding a long time.
But right after Sean.
And then, uh, we'll just, uh... Me and Cam will, uh...
Rock the mic and perpetrate and slay all suckers state to state about this Chipman guy.
So this goes, uh, is this segment up to the end of the hour break?
Yeah, it's, uh, 3.50.
Okay.
So it's short.
So we must be Kurt with Kurt.
We'll be Kurt.
You like that?
Hey, how are we doing on Rumble?
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One suggestion in the chat on the question of the day for 2024.
Ivanka Trump.
Okay.
Listen, I like Ivanka as much as anybody else, but I don't think so.
You know, it's not enough to have the name.
No.
As we've seen from the Bushes.
What makes you think she wants any part of running?
These people that come up with this stuff.
I said she should be head of the RNC, personally.
Like, I think she should... For what reason?
She's much better.
I think she would still do the job of, like, recruiting candidates, which is one of the RNC's main functions.
But she's got the Trump name, so... Disaffected voters who are sick of the RNC and McDaniel right now would be... I'm interested in that.
Romney McDaniel.
Romney McDaniel, thank you.
I said position them carefully.
I think Don Jr.
should become head of the NRA.
I think, well, Lara should run in the Senate in North Carolina.
She's the one member of the family who's talking about running for a seat.
I think she'd be good in that seat.
I was talking to someone at the RNC who thinks she would be the best candidate for that race.
Really?
And then Ivanka for RNC chair.
And Eric, I guess, stays with the company because one of them's got to stay with the company.
Wait, somebody says Laura Trump is the best candidate in North Carolina?
Guy I was talking to who works at the RNC thinks that she would be the best chance to win that election.
I agree.
Does she need to live there?
She's from North Carolina.
I know that, but doesn't she need to live there?
That I do not know.
That's a good question.
Yes, you do.
Typically, that's something.
Yes, you have to establish residency to run.
It's in the paperwork.
I imagine, yeah.
20 seconds, standby.
Okay.
Well, Mitt Romney's from like eight different states.
Very true.
Thank you.
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Now, I rejoin my conversation with a formidably bearded Cam Edwards of BearingArms.com.
Cam, up on Capitol Hill today, the nominee to take over the Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Agency, David Shipman, was, uh, well, that chip was fried, wasn't he?
It was Friday.
A pedal cook, I believe, by Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Marsha Blackburn, and others who, you know, basically had a pretty easy job.
All they had to do was point out David Chibbon's own past comments to him and ask him to explain.
Chibbon is a guy who spent 25 years in the APF, but he spent most of the past decade as a paid gun control activist.
He's worked for Michael Bloomberg at Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
Most recently, he's been with Giffords.
Uh, the gun group, uh, or the anti-gun group established by Gabby Giffords and her husband Mark Kelly.
And so, you know, yeah, they asked him about, all right, well, we're going to talk about, you know, your desire to ban assault weapons.
What is an assault weapon?
And David Timmons didn't know.
He said, well, I've made it up for Congress to define.
So he wants to ban an entire category of firearms.
He can't define it themselves.
Uh, but you know, he'll let Congress come up with the definition and then he'll just enforce that ban.
Yeah, it was not a good performance by David Chipman, but I don't know if it's going to be enough to derail his nomination, unfortunately.
Are any Republicans wavering on this Chipman character?
Because I think when you have someone who is so dead set against a fundamental constitutional right, it would be nice to have all the Republicans united against him, maybe even a Democrat or two.
It would be nice.
And I've actually got a piece at Bering Arms coming up later this afternoon about why Joe Manchin should oppose.
I mean, in Maine, you've got rampaging mooses.
In Alaska, you've got giant bears.
Yeah, I'd say the two Republicans most likely to vote for Chipman are the usual suspects, Susan Collins of Maine and Mitch Murkowski of Alaska.
Neither one of them have officially come out and said that they support him.
Aren't those gun states?
I mean, in Maine, you got rampaging mooses.
In Alaska, you got giant bears.
I mean, aren't those gun freedom states?
They are both constitutional carry states, as a matter of fact.
As is West Virginia.
So if that alone was enough to derail the nomination, I think it would be safe.
But ultimately, it's got to be up to those gun owners in those states to contact their senators and say, no, you should not put a gun control activist in charge of the agency that oversees our nation's gun law.
Yeah, I think that makes sense.
We've got about just about 30 seconds.
Do you think he's going to win or not?
Yes or no?
If I had to say today, I would say yes.
It's weaker, but I think that there is time to change Senators' minds.
Well, let's hope so, Cam Edwards of BearingArms.com.
This is Kurt Schlichter, and this is America First.
Stick around.
There we go.
There I got out before the end.
Yep.
Good.
SirLive on Rumble.
How's it going, Rumble people?
Still there, Cam?
Nope, he dropped.
He's gone.
He's a pro.
He's like, I'm finished.
I thought that was a good segment.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was.
I didn't even hear about that story.
Yeah.
Chipman or whatever he said his name is.
We got Sean coming up and then I'm going to go into the phones after Sean.
I will, what do you say, second segment I do the angel tree?
Yeah, that'll be a good place.
All right, I'll just start off after Sean, and then I'll get right to my phone calls.
So, good show so far?
Okay show?
Terrible show?
Yeah, I would say it is very good.
Very focused.
The viewers seem to agree, since we have slightly more than yesterday.
Very focused.
I can't believe Dr. Gorka is not focused all the time.
He does not strike me as a scattered guy.
He's not scattered, he just, you know, he likes to hop all over the place.
Talking about different stuff in every segment, that sort of thing.
Well, I just wanted to do calls today, just to keep it, you know, keep the vibe like this.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, daddy-o.
Yeah, cat.
You're a hep jive.
We just lost our TV signal.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's Armageddon thunderstorm apparently that's gonna hit.
It's 90 degrees somehow.
90 degrees right now in the capital.
Let them sweat!
Yeah, it sucks.
I see the weather notifications.
I gotta walk a mile and a half today to get home.
No, not going to be a good time.
Oh, it's going to be raining for like two weeks straight.
Damn.
We don't have rain here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We get it.
It's California.
Yeah, it never rains in California.
Especially not in the area that needs rain the most.
Exactly, I like it.
Some people are like, I miss the rain.
And I'm like, why do you want water pouring on you from the sky?
Where I'm from, that is like a godsend.
It cleans the air and purifies the earth.
Waters our crops, cleans all the smog that rolls down into our valley from your neck of the state.
Oh, an Inland Empire guy.
I swear, growing up in the San Joaquin Valley, I've developed an absolute immunity to bad air quality.
Oh my gosh, you come down off the grapevine and you're just like, what is that?
Deal with those Santa Ana wins.
Oh, that's just...
Oh, my gosh.
Santa Ana wins.
Another Steely Dan reference right there.
Uh-oh.
Babylon Sister, first song on Goucho.
I am so lost now.
All I know is what's... The only thing I know about Steely Dan is what they're named after.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's the number one thing most people know about Steely Dan.
I know, it's like... I gotta jump on a quick conference call in 15 minutes, so Eric will send you this screenshot after Sean.
Yes.
And I do have your... Yes, I still have your number.
I'll send you an updated one at 5.15, and then he'll send you anything after that.
Is Sean calling in or are we calling him?
I'll call him.
You're calling him.
Okay, but you'll do that, okay.
And then Tim Young is also calling.
Dee.
I'll be back, but it'll be like 10 minutes.
Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Yep.
All right, Dee.
Three minutes to air.
I know, Young texts me, what are we going to talk about?
I'm like, how the hell should I know?
Just run your mouth.
Just run your mouth.
Live your handle.
Should we mute him?
Isn't he running for Senate?
Is Tim Young running for something?
No, Sean.
Sean is running for Senate.
Yes, yes, we will mute him.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely mute Sean.
He's about to be on the line right now.
That way he can't say anything.
Alright, sorry Rumble viewers, mic serve coming off.
Thank you.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Welcome, Patriots, to the final hour of my two-day guest host stint here on America First.
We'll talk about saving the best for last.
Coming up, right here on the hotline, Airborne Ranger and Hey, Kurt.
Thanks for having me, man.
sion parnell sean how are you doing hey kurt thanks for having me man i appreciate the time well i appreciate you coming here you're very busy you announced that you are running for senate in pennsylvania uh just a week or so ago how's it going uh it's hectic and crazy you know running a statewide race is it's Pennsylvania's a big state.
But, you know, part of the job of being a leader is going everywhere and building coalitions with people that agree with you, but especially going to places where people who might not, you know, and in Pennsylvania, there are lots of blue dog union Democrats that are pro-life, pro-gun.
Those are our people, and I've been going there for the last week and a half since we've been in the race and making the case for them, you know?
Um, but Kurt, like, as you know, and I don't have to tell you this, but you go to Afghanistan, like, and you've deployed before as well.
I mean, we know how precious freedom is and we know that it has to be fought for every generation.
Um, and, but now it's like, I feel like the fight for freedom in 2021 and 2022 is not going to be had on a foreign battlefield, Kurt.
It's going to happen right here at home.
This country stands on a very thin line between hope and darkness.
Look at all the crazy things that the Democrats are doing, the radical left, whether it's taxes rising, debt and deficit soaring, borders flooded, crisis in the Middle East, our energy industry here in Pennsylvania is being crushed, First Amendment's under attack, Second Amendment is as well, talking about PAC in the Supreme Court, Washington, D.C.
statehood, nuking the filibuster to remove any dissent in the Senate.
Kirk, we have to stop them because the radical left truly is an existential threat to this country.
And that's not me saying it.
Every single time that they talk about tearing down our institutions and fundamentally transforming this country, Well, guess what?
I believe that America is exceptional.
I believe this is a pretty darn good place to be.
Yeah, of course, this country and this country, we've made mistakes, but what makes this country exceptional is the fact that we always right the ship.
And so, you know, it's time to fight for this country like the heart and soul of it depends on it.
And so that's what I'm doing.
That's why I'm running for Senate, to protect the American dream and our way of life.
Well, Sean Parnell, as an army combat leader, you understand that tactics are great, but logistics are vital.
And it seems that Big Tech is trying to separate you from your logistical train.
What the heck is going on with Google and your website?
And tell us where we can find you.
Yeah, listen to this.
So, parnell4senate.com.
Please go to my website.
You can read all about my platform.
I'm an open book.
And if you feel so inclined, join the movement, contribute to the campaign, because we need your help.
Our campaign is one that's driven by 45,000 individual donors, so we're not beholden to the Republican Party.
We're not afraid to lock horns with the Democrats.
We truly do represent the people.
But let me give you a sense of how this went down.
Two weeks before I declared my candidacy, Chuck Schumer and the DSCC started running ads against me, and I'm not even a candidate in the state of Pennsylvania, right?
Then I declare my candidacy, Uh, and the DSCC and Chuck Schumer start sending out emails.
Oh, Sean Parnell's in the race.
You know, rubber stamp for Mitch McConnell.
We have to stop him.
Help our good candidates raise money at that exact moment.
My website disappeared from Google.
Now, you can go on to Bing, Yahoo, or DuckDuckGo and plug in Sean Parnell, Senate, Pennsylvania.
My website will be the first thing that pops up, but try to find it on Google.
It's almost impossible.
Now, that's a big deal because we broke fundraising records in Pennsylvania raising our money digitally.
It's the best way to raise money.
It comes directly to the campaign.
It goes to voter outreach, real low overhead.
And, you know, people are listening to me on this radio station right now, and they say, hey, that Parnell guy is a pretty cool dude.
I'm gonna go to donate to his campaign.
They plug my name into Google.
They can't find a site.
The first thing that they think is, well, I guess he doesn't have a website yet.
That's not true.
There is a website.
It's just being censored.
Well, Sean Parnell, and you can support Sean at SeanParnell2021.com?
You can go to ParnellForSenate.com.
ParnellForSenate.com.
Well, and you should consider doing that, folks.
When you get to the Senate, and we'll talk about the challenges getting there, but once you're there, there are a lot of people who call themselves Republicans, and they're soft.
They're soft about things like regulating big tech.
They're soft about things like guns.
They're soft about the things that our voters care about.
Are you soft, Sean?
No, no.
In fact, I'm probably the only candidate in the entire country that after the election, I brought a lawsuit to challenge, you know, Act 77, which is Pennsylvania's no-excuse absentee ballot law.
I went after the Democrat governor, our Democrat attorney general, the Democrat lieutenant governor, but I also sued the Republican Party.
Not because, you know, I was trying to be a pain, but because it was the right thing to do to change the time, place, and manner in a state like Pennsylvania.
You've got to put it on the ballot for a referendum so that the people have a say in the political destiny of the state.
Both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party didn't do that with Act 77.
So I went to bat for the people and took the case all the way to the Supreme Court, ultimately.
And unfortunately, they didn't take it, even though three Supreme Court justices agreed with us.
Ultimately, they didn't take the case, but The job is to be a leader.
The job is to put the people before a political party, and of course, in this day and age, you have to be a fighter.
You can't be afraid of the media attacking you.
In fact, Kurt, like, if the media is attacking me, I know that I'm over the target.
Use the military analogy, right?
So, you can't be afraid to stand up to the media, lock horns with the Democrats, but also stand up to your party if you're wrong, because this job is about being there for the people first, last, and always.
Well, Sean, You've got a primary ahead of you, but I'm thinking you're probably the lead guy.
You almost took out Conor Lamb in a Democrat district for Congress.
Came very, very close.
Do you think Conor is going to take a silver spoon out of his mouth and try and run against you for Senate?
Well, he's about to be gerrymandered out.
You want him!
You want him as your opponent.
If Conor Lamb is listening to this show, which he's probably not, but if he is, get in the race.
I'd love to have you in, you know?
But, you know, look, 2020 was kind of a disaster here in Pennsylvania, right?
From unilateral changes to election law 60 days out, from remote satellite voting facilities to drop boxes funded by Mark Zuckerberg.
Zuckerbucks, right?
Big tech censorship to the media almost exclusively against us, almost entirely against us, to Nancy Pelosi spending millions of dollars every single day attacking the NPA 17.
I had no outside help.
I did it myself.
Raised the money myself.
In a district that many consider in the state of Pennsylvania to be gerrymandered to protect Conor Lamb, we still almost won that race.
Just a few thousand votes is what separated us.
And so, if you look at the turnout metrics in PA-17, it was a D-plus district.
Well, Pennsylvania is not a D-plus state.
And so, we built a grassroots movement, the likes of which have never been seen in Western Pennsylvania, not for a very, very, very long time.
Thousands of volunteers, and those people are all queued up and ready to rock and go again.
We haven't lost any momentum.
And so, yeah, if Conor Lamb's thinking of getting in the race, get in.
I'd love to have you in.
Well, you've got some difficult terrain to take in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, hardcore Democrat areas.
Are you going to make a play for those voters and try and turn the enemy's secure base?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, running in PA 17 means running 85% in Allegheny County.
I was born and raised in Allegheny County.
My family's been in Pennsylvania for probably close to a hundred years.
Allegheny County is part of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
We kept it close there.
And one of the first places that we went, uh, on this campaign was South Philly, the Italian, the Italian market there in going into Democrat and Republican owned businesses and talking to them and making the case.
And we had a real positive reaction.
But this campaign is going to be about going everywhere and uniting this party, but also bringing as many people into the fold in Pennsylvania as humanly possible.
And so, yes, we're going to make a play for those votes.
And yes, we're going to win not just the primary, but the general election in 2022.
Sean Parnell, everybody, everything is going to depend on you getting those hard-working traditional Democrats.
How, and we only have a few moments left, how are you going to reach out to those folks who may have gone for Biden thinking he was old, you know, have a beer with Joe Biden, and of course he ain't.
Well, we'll do it the same way that we did in PA17.
We're going to go there and ask them for support.
Beaver County, 100% in PA17.
Democrats outnumber Republicans there in registrations.
We won Beaver County by 16 points.
We're going to win this race by going everywhere and making the case that more freedom and more prosperity in your life is a good thing and advocating for those policies is the best path forward for the state and the country.
That sounds great, Sean.
We only have about 15 seconds.
Where can people go to help you?
No thanks to Google.
Parnellforsenate.com.
Join the movement.
Contribute to this race because we need your help.
Parnellforsenate.com.
Thank you, Sean Parnell.
Good luck in your run.
This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
I am Kurt Schlichter, your guest host.
And if you are holding, I'm going to calls next.
So stick around.
Hey, Mike's on and Mr. Parnell has dropped off.
Okay, I'm going to do an angel treat of the last two minutes of the C block.
Okay, last two minutes?
Got it.
I'm sorry, the B block.
Next one.
And you've still got a full call board.
The screenshot Jeff sent you twice.
I'm going to burn through them.
Okay.
Because we've got 15 minutes until Tim Young.
Right.
And then see if you want Tim to stick around for E as well like you did yesterday.
Yeah, I'll probably have Tim do that.
Okay.
So yeah, he needs to get through this full call.
He annoys me.
I'll bump him.
Thanks for your call, Tim.
Venmo has just added a feature to buy crypto in its app.
That is interesting.
I should have bought crypto 10 years ago.
Damn it.
I'm looking at possibly investing into Ethereum.
Maybe.
I hear that because that's the most stable one.
See, if I don't understand something, I'm not going to put money into it.
I bought a little stock today.
I just had a little cash in my account.
But it was a company I've known for 20 years.
And done well with.
Like, I wouldn't throw money at it.
I would just put a little bit of something into it and see where it goes.
Just kind of a fun thing, you know?
Because you never know where crypto's going to go.
I'm still convinced crypto, sooner or later, is probably going to get outlawed, let's be honest.
I'm sure it is.
It's got a dog.
It's going because Doge for a while.
Oh, my goodness.
Doge to the moon.
That was – I saw a spike and I'm just like, oh, my goodness.
It's a literal meme.
It was created as a joke currency and it became – It's got a dog.
It's got a cute dog.
Second greatest meme in history, I think.
It's a pretty cool dog.
Oh yeah.
And that dog is still alive, by the way.
That dog's kind of older too, but it's still alive.
What is he, like an Inu or something?
Shiba Inu, or Inu, however you pronounce it.
Yeah.
Inu.
Shiba the Inu.
It's a nice dog.
I like dogs.
I like dogs.
I like coins.
What's not to like?
I like the moon.
Just a regular guy, a regular American investing in some crypto.
I'm just a regular Joe.
I see there's a coin dog, and I'm thinking, hey, I want to be a part of it.
I like dogs.
I like coins.
I like the moon.
I like everything.
Another suggestion in chat for today's question for 2024, Candace Owens.
Candace Owens?
She did hint at it on Twitter a while back, so that kind of got some buzz going.
She's running for president, huh?
I mean, yeah.
I love Candace.
She's one of my favorites.
You know, people have been able to turn, you know, a business career and sometimes entertainment careers into politician success.
Very rarely do we get pundits who actually succeed.
Incredibly rarely.
Yeah, Buchanan.
Buchanan was a good one, yeah.
Great one.
Didn't get elected.
Yeah.
But he did found a pretty impressive campaign against Bush.
He did.
I think he holds the record, make of it as you will, the most successful primary challenger to never win a single primary.
In 92.
Nice.
He didn't win a single state, but he did.
I'm the best loser ever!
That's still my favorite SNL skit of all time, is the one with Dana Carvey as John McLaughlin just dunking on Phil Hartman as Pat Buchanan, like after the 1919 New Hampshire primary.
It was just the funniest thing ever.
I actually did the McLaughlin group.
Really?
Yes.
That was... God, how lame am I?
That was like a highlight for me.
I was so excited.
And they were all very nice to me, but they've known each other forever.
So they're very nice to each other.
They get up there, rip each other apart on stage and get off and it's like, you know, say hi to Marge.
Pet your dog for me.
10 seconds.
All right.
Standing by.
Stand by. Stand by.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
I am Kurt Schlichter, and I am back, and I have a full board of calls.
If you want to get in on it and our questions, should President Trump run for re-election in 2024?
Should he go the full Grover?
8-3-3, 3-3, Gorka.
8-3-3, 3-3, 4-6, 7-5-2.
83333 Gorka. 8333346752.
Randy in Knoxville, you've been waiting forever.
Welcome to America First.
Hey, thanks, Kurt.
Yeah, I just had you on speakerphone, phone in my pocket, while my wife supervises the honey-do list.
Nice.
No problem at all.
You got oppression in Washington, you got oppression in home.
Fight the power, Randy!
Fight the power!
What's on your mind?
I'm trying.
Hey, you know, you're not convinced about Trump.
Let me imbue you with a little confidence, maybe.
He's the most popular politician ever.
That's like saying the most popular STD, Randy.
Yeah, you know, you got a point there.
But here's the thing.
As someone who agrees with President Trump that I think that the election was stolen, he doesn't beat around the bush.
He says it clearly.
I agree with him.
I want satisfaction.
I want him to run and win and be able to get his second term fulfilled like he rightfully should have.
And even more important than me to some house painter out there in Tennessee, President Trump deserves it, Kurt.
He deserves to be able to have his second term that he was obviously stolen by these clowns.
Well, Randy, I respect your passion and I respect your commitment to obeying your wife, but I have to disagree.
I don't think it's about Donald Trump getting vindication.
Now, I would love him to get vindication.
I was with Rick Grenell in Nevada.
We saw some outright fraud.
We saw some other misconduct.
We saw a media that totally tossed the whole idea of objectivity out the window and attacked Donald Trump for the benefit of President Asterisk.
But I don't, I don't see, look, vindicating Donald Trump's disappointment at how this turned out, I don't think it can be one of our criteria.
Well, I can understand that.
You want somebody to win, me too.
I think the guy is going to win.
And this is what we need, Kurt, in closing.
This is what we need, is all good conservatives like you to jump on board the Trump train.
Sometimes, you know, the doubt and the hesitancy, I'm thinking like, hey man, have people been hanging out with Hugh Hewitt too much?
I like Hugh Hewitt.
Hey, Hugh's cool.
Randy, thanks for the call.
Look, I would love Donald Trump to run and win.
Nothing would make me happier.
But the important word in that sentence is win.
If Donald Trump shows me that he is the most likely candidate to win, then he's going to have my support.
If he's not going to be the most likely candidate to win, You know, then he has to ask himself why he's doing it.
Is he doing it for the right reason?
I am not anti-Trump.
I am a huge supporter of Donald Trump, and I think he's a great president.
And I think the last election was words I can't say thanks to the FCC.
But I'm about winning, and I am unsentimental about that.
Kevin in Arizona, agree or disagree?
Well, I sort of do take your side.
It's not about the president.
It's about winning.
And if you'll give me a choice here, I've got about three separate reasons that he should not win.
I don't think he should win.
Why are they?
Well, one would be political capital.
Say you get ten gallons of political capital for winning the presidency, it's a guarantee that four of those gallons will get burned just fighting the Democrats, which to me is a waste.
And thank you for your call, Kevin.
Kevin's point is, hey, he's going to have such hard resistance from the Democrats, he's not going to be able to get anything done.
And I think that, to some extent, it's legitimate, because that's what happened last time.
Although, we have an advantage, folks.
We have a cadre of people who worked in the Trump administration.
They know how the game is played.
They are experienced.
Of course, Trump came in with no Rolodex.
He had no list of supporters who he could just call up, like Jeb!
Jeb!
had the whole Bush Rolodex at his stubby, tubby fingertips.
Ready to man the administration.
Now, they would have been terrible.
And unfortunately, because Donald Trump didn't have a Rolodex, he had to take a lot of those.
And, well, they were terrible.
So I think he can do better this time and beat some of the bureaucratic games.
But that's something we have to consider.
Tom in Akron, how do you feel about President Trump running in 2024?
Well, if he makes it, I'm going to vote for him.
Doesn't he have a base of 74 million votes from last year?
Well, Tom, I think he does have a bunch of very loyal people, and if he won the nomination, I would absolutely vote for him against Kamala Harris or in the off chance that Grandpa Badfinger decides to run again.
I think he'd get those $74 million and probably a bunch more who don't like gas lines and inflation.
This is what I'm thinking.
I got a letter from Judicial Watch about election law enforcement.
They plan on doing a lot of suing about the databases in all the states.
Oh, already?
Hey!
I wish they had sent out that letter, oh I don't know, two and a half years ago?
Because I gotta tell you, when I got, and thank you for your call Tom, when I got to Nevada to help Rick Grinnell on the election, I met the Republican's lawyer.
Now you mean lawyers?
No, no, no!
I mean the guy.
His name was Jesse Bernal.
Very good lawyer.
He brought his dog.
It's a wonderful dog.
And as good as Jesse was, and is, he was one dude!
Okay?
It's not enough to prep the battlefield with one lawyer when you're going up against entire Democrat law firms.
We screwed up as Republicans.
And Donald Trump has to take some of the blame.
Commander is always responsible for what the unit does and doesn't do.
We were not ready for the legal fights that we had to engage in after November.
Okay?
We were not ready because we didn't prepare beforehand.
The Democrats were in suing to change laws.
We were not there fighting them.
We were not making our own lawsuits.
to enforce ballot and electoral security.
That was our screw-up, folks.
Again, like I always say, I am unsentimental about politicians.
I am also unsentimental about feelings.
And some people might not want to hear that we contributed to this result as a party by failing to prepare the battlefield, by failing to get in there and set the terms of engagement.
That's just a fact.
I want to hear from you.
833-33-GORKA.
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Be right back.
Mic's on.
I'm gonna field a few more calls that just came in.
Okay, I'm gonna do, uh, Angel Tree and get that out of the way at the beginning, and then, uh, I won't give the number again, and we should have plenty of calls.
Yeah, we- we should- well, we'd probably actually be fine with the last two that we- that you have on the photo we've already sent you, time-wise.
Caroline and, uh- And Chuck.
Although, uh, um- Did I talk to Chuck?
No.
Okay.
Eric is, uh, working on- On the next, uh, he's fielding a couple of calls just in case.
All right.
Wish Alan the liberal would call.
Sissy.
Yeah, the lines have been slammed.
I'm sure it'd be tough for him to get through even if he wanted to.
Really?
Is it, uh, are we, we're getting a lot, huh?
Yeah, flips, flipped almost instantly every time we've got an opening.
So.
Wow.
When you ask an audience direct questions, usually they give direct answers.
And I think everybody wants to talk about it.
I think it was a good topic for today, huh?
I think so.
I think so.
People seem to be responding to it.
How are we doing on Rumble?
I do not know.
I don't have those metrics in front of me.
Eric's got them and he's screening, so he'll be off that in a second, though, and he'll give you an answer.
Always metric-ing.
Always metric-ing.
All about the metrics.
Okay, so we're coming in with Angel Tree.
I'll let you just come in on that.
Okay, what do I want to do with this one?
You know, there's something low-key.
Two minutes there.
Cool.
Cool.
All right, man.
I'm doing lawyer stuff even as we speak.
I only got one email in the last 30 minutes.
Wow.
Are you even a lawyer?
What the hell?
How long have you been practicing? - Interesting.
Oh, God.
Too long.
Too long. 27 years. 27 years.
You think I'd be better at it with all that practice.
After you put out that number, we have a full call board once again.
I'm taking a picture right now.
Sweet.
Okay, give me a moment here.
Maybe I'll take a call with Tim Young on.
That'll be car wreck.
Guest calls.
Never work.
Never ever once have ever worked.
Oh, they work with me.
I do Larry O'Connor.
Yeah.
Okay, I just texted you the screenshot of the call.
Perfect.
It should be coming through in a second.
Yeah, Gary, I'm sorry, Larry, one of my best friends, so we can just, I mean we really know how to play off each other.
And I'll just get on there and it's just hilarious.
That was great.
I remember the day of the first Trump march in November, Seb did a special in the studio with Larry O'Connor and Another radio host.
Who was that?
Chad, do you remember?
It was Chris.
It was Chris Plant.
Okay, I wasn't 100% sure.
Oh, Chris Plant's cool.
And that was... Oh yeah, Seb listens to him all the time.
But yeah, all three of them in studio for like an hour and 20 minutes.
It was incredible.
Larry's a great guy.
I've met Chris once or twice.
He's a good guy.
15 seconds.
Standing by.
Standing by.
Most of these hosts are cool.
You've got to make friends to get on the air, you know?
Welcome back to America First.
I'm not Dr. Sebb Gorka.
I'm Kurt Schlichter, your guest host, and I am taking calls.
Chuck, in Atlanta, you want Trump back right now, don't you?
That is correct.
He won the election.
It was stolen from him.
I think we need to hear from the outcome of Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, New Hampshire, and I want to see the media go crazy.
I want to see alternative media go crazy with Trump one and be restored.
He deserves it.
And it's not about Trump.
It's about honoring the law system.
It's about getting rid of the crime of the century.
Well, Chuck, thank you for your call.
I appreciate it.
You know, as a lawyer for, oh God, 27 years, when people start talking about the rule of law, I start kind of laughing a little bit.
Okay?
Just remember, the first thing any lawyer does when he gets a new case is look up who the judge is and who appointed him.
That's the first thing that happens.
The rule of law is possible, but right now, you know, everything's so politicized, I think people are forgetting about it.
And you can tell on political cases pretty easily how a given judge is going to go.
And that's not a good situation, and that does not bode well for our future.
Our question today is, do you think that Donald Trump should go the full Grover Cleveland and run for election, re-election, in 2024?
Carolyn in California, what do you think?
Absolutely, positively, he should run again.
You would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to know that that election was stolen.
And that next day when I found that out, I cried like a baby.
But the following day after that, I got up, I wiped my eyes, and I was mad as hell.
And I'm still mad as hell.
Oh yeah!
He needs to run again.
And I'm praying for a Trump-slash-DeSantis ticket.
And then I'll be able to say, ain't no stopping us now!
Caroline, I love your energy!
Look, now, Donald Trump has to make the decision on whether he's going to run or not.
He's got to make that choice.
And if for whatever reason, and it might be personal, it might be family, it might be whatever, he decides not to, are you going to be as energized for, say, DeSantis' candidacy?
Oh, I'm knocking on doors.
I'm talking to my family.
I'm calling up people in my family I could not stand, and I'm talking to them.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, Caroline, I love it, and you're here in my home state of California.
You know, we had Ambassador Rick Rennell on last time, who I kind of wouldn't mind seeing as vice president.
And he's making a campaign to win California back.
With your energy, maybe we can win California back for freedom.
What do you think?
Oh yeah.
Oh Caroline.
I'm with it.
Caroline, thank you so much for your call.
I really enjoyed talking to you.
Rebecca in Minneapolis, what do you think about Trump running in 2024?
I think he should run again.
He's not a politician, so it's going to be very difficult to replace him with a politician.
He's more of a businessman, and I think that's what this country will need after four years of Biden.
I like DeSantis, but I had heard that he got a little waffly on on the gun thing a couple months ago, so I would have to check that out a little bit more.
Well, look, Rebecca in Minneapolis, we are not going to tolerate anybody waffling on any of our key rights.
I had not heard that about Ron DeSantis, and I would be greatly disappointed if it was true.
But I have been disappointed by some other people.
Kristi Noem backing down in the face of Amazon and Chamber of Commerce over, you know, saving girls' sports.
Would you ever consider giving Kristi Noem a second chance?
I'm not that familiar with what was happening there.
That's why the thing I said about Ron Don, or whatever his first name is, I'm not that sure.
I heard it on the radio and I want to check it out further.
Well, Rebecca in Minneapolis, thank you for your call.
She's got it right, folks.
Rebecca is absolutely right about checking it out for yourself.
Don't believe anything except what Dr. Gorka tells you.
Don't believe what the media says.
Media is going to lie to you.
Media is going to mislead you.
But you are an American citizen.
You have the capacity to get educated.
You have the ability to learn and to vote accordingly.
Up next, conservative comic Tim Young.
Oh, this is going to be good.
it's going to be real good on america first all right clear uh Da da da.
Was there one more angel tree to be done?
Yeah, yeah, we still got to do that.
Might want to probably do it just at the beginning of this segment before you go to Tim.
Yeah, I'll do it.
Tell him I'll do it at the beginning.
I'll keep him over for two minutes into the other, and then I'll say goodbye.
Yeah, sounds good.
Cool, cool, cool.
Excellent.
Homestretch.
All right.
Those were some good calls, I thought.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, you know.
I haven't had a call like Caroline in a long time.
Caroline's energetic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, wow.
That's a thing.
Donald Trump can energize.
Oh, yeah.
Like nobody else.
That's the question I would always ask.
You know, DeSantis, as great as he is, anybody else, I ask the question, is there any Republican for 2024 whose name isn't Donald Trump who could fill a stadium with 30,000 people?
And the answer, unfortunately, to me at least, is no.
Yeah, I think it'd be tough.
It could be tough.
If he talks to you in the breaks, we're live on Rumble Day in the Breaks, okay?
Might have to be...
I don't know.
Yeah.
Hey player, how's it going?
Pretty good, how about you?
I'm pretty good.
Hey, you're going to stay for a second segment.
Okay, well let me get my headphones on then.
You're up to the top of the hour.
I'm going to do some charity stuff at the beginning, and then I'll come right to you.
And I will throw you the question of the day, which is, do you think Donald Trump should pull the full Grover Cleveland and run for president in 2024?
Oh God, that's a tough one.
I know, that's why it's a good question.
I had a full board.
I had all these people, including Caroline, who was unbelievably enthusiastic.
And I said, well, if Donald Trump doesn't run... Hold on, I've got to plug in my... There we go.
Now I've got my full headset on.
I'm ready to go.
You know, when I get a phone call from an unknown number, I don't answer it, and then I said, Salem, and I'm like, oh, I should answer this.
Yeah, that's probably a good idea.
Yeah.
You have one of those headphones on so you look like James Spader in one of those 90s movies where he's the evil businessman?
Oh, I need one of those.
I am evil business.
As you're aware.
All about it.
You're the James Spader of conservatism.
That would be really good.
You know, maybe I should rebrand myself with that.
I need to be a little bit more calm with my talk.
I could get it down there.
Calm with an undercurrent o' menace.
Yeah.
Well, that seems...
I do say, like, if I say, like, delightful instead of saying it like that, I'd be like, that seems delightful.
A little tentative about things, yeah.
Like you're mulling it over.
Constantly.
One minute.
We'll be on in a sec.
How's the show been today?
Good?
I've been amazing.
I've really been terrific.
When I wasn't introducing guests in the wrong segment or mispronouncing Seb Gorpa's name, Jesus Christ.
That's the guy that runs the heat of the show.
You pronounced his name wrong?
I'm a guy named Schlichter.
I'm used to it.
But it's gorgeous.
Yes.
Yes, it is.
The K is not silent.
It's also not a P.
30 seconds.
We'll be on in one moment.
Stand by.
All right.
Standing by.
Going to come in with Angel Tree.
Great.
Yep.
Thank you.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, and this is America First with the one and only Kurt Schlichter.
Thank you so much, Dr. Gorka.
This is America First.
Thanks for sticking around.
I'm here through the top of the hour, and in just a moment, I'm going to have Tim Young.
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This next guy is a conservative comic.
You've been told there are no conservative comics.
You've been told that we're not funny, that we're not amusing, that we're a bunch of bow-tied losers who sit around talking about Austrian economics.
Oh, au contraire!
Hello, Tim Young!
Hi.
I mean, I'm not funny most of the time, so really, the term comic is loose to me.
Don't you hate when, you know, I did stand-up for a while, and don't you hate when people go, you're a stand-up?
Be funny!
Oh, that's like the number one troll thing.
Like, you're not funny or something like that, or you have a failed career, and I'm like, okay, you're talking to a guy with 300,000 followers on Twitter and gets booked a bunch of places.
But I don't understand that.
Like, not everything that's gonna be gold, and not everything I write on Twitter is going to be funny.
Most of it's angry.
Then it gets perceived as funny.
funny you are a bitter and unhappy man and that's one of the reasons we love you by the way i read your i read your most recent article oh my god on juice land tell us a little about that where we could find it because it was comedy gold all right so uh juice land uh my article is on uh washington washington times So, Washington- I'm with them now.
They're the examiner I love.
The Washington Times.
And, uh, you can go to Doccom and see it.
But Juiceland, they hired all these woke- It's a juice place in Austin, Texas.
So they hired- It is?
I've never heard of it.
Well, you're missing out.
It's- It's like the Whataburger of fluids?
Uh, no.
It's sort of like the- I don't even know.
It's like a super- It's like the most pretentious- Crappy juice place you can go to.
But I'd go there, because I have a problem.
I have a mental disorder.
And so I would go there, and they had these armpits smelling vegans, you know, women who don't shave their armpits, serving you drinks.
What could go wrong with that employment situation?
They all turn on the manager, who's a solid capitalist.
He took one store, turned it into 37.
Do they not know how to social justice?
I mean, they're in Austin.
You know, they have to do they do they not know how to social justice?
I mean, they're in Austin.
I thought they were born knowing.
Not only that, their customers other than me are basically parents.
So you can go from there on that.
And they demanded a raise, so the managers raised their wages to $15 an hour to put fruits and vegetables in a blender.
That wasn't enough.
Then they wanted more.
Then they accused everybody of sexism and racism.
Then they want to expose, they want to know exactly what every executive makes and be able to review the executives and their managers as employees.
Yeah.
You know, Tim Young, there's this word out there that I think is underused in America today.
That word is no.
Yes.
Correct.
And not only that, look, there's a homeless problem in Austin.
There's an illegal immigrant problem.
I think those people can put fruits and vegetables in blenders just as well as a privileged white kid that doesn't know how to shave their armpits and use soap.
Well, look, I mean, you know, I would You know, it's a tough call.
Hobo off the street, dirty, filthy, pierced commie.
Who do I want making my food?
I'm not sure I want either of them.
I probably wouldn't go into Juiceland.
I don't think you can get a patty melt in Juiceland.
You basically just described my tinder options in Austin, too.
You know, it's a real toss-up on a Thursday.
How much I'm drinking.
Oh my gosh.
So you, look, you're a conservative.
You've moved to Austin.
How's that working out for you?
I'm actually in, I'm in Grapevine, Texas.
I'm not in Austin, and it's fantastic.
I love freedom.
I love the fact that I can walk into an academy sports, I don't get paid by them, buy a real solid handgun to protect myself, and walk out in like 15 minutes.
I love it.
What's it like being in a free state?
Because I'm from California.
I gotta tell you, so I picked a state after I traveled the country last year, doing a show called On the Road with Tim Young for the Washington Times, and I picked not only the state, but the city specifically to move to, because when I showed up, when bars reopened here, people weren't wearing masks then.
And I was like, holy crap, this is what America should be like.
And, you know, freedom tastes delicious.
You know, Tim Young, I have a question.
Now, I had COVID, and I pummeled into submission, and I talked to a number of doctors who, because of my personal health and the health of people around me, convinced me it was a good idea for me to get the vaccine, which I took.
So I am, like, super immune.
And other people who take the vaccine are allegedly super immune.
Why is it always these people who've taken the vaccine and who lecture us about the damn vaccine, which, and I don't care if you take it or not, because I've had the vaccine.
Why do they care what other people do?
Well, I'm not taking it.
So, here's the thing.
I learned from the internet that the only way the vaccine works is if you virtue-signal after you get it.
That's how you activate it.
It's one thing to have it in your arm.
It's another thing to then take a woke selfie of yourself and brag about it.
So you're saying I'm in grave danger because I didn't take a selfie of it because I thought it was a silly ministerial act.
I mean, did you even get the vaccine?
How would we know without you taking a selfie of it?
jeez Kurt yeah I like to keep people up to date on my various uh prescription intake you want to hear about my Crestor well you can if you stick around to the next segment because I'm going to hold Tim Young over here on America First stick around all right I thought that went well I do too.
I polished off half a drink while I was talking to you.
Geez.
Nice.
It's tough out there for a pimp.
It's hot out here for a pimp.
Yeah.
I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind.
What are we going to talk about next?
We've got about two and a half minutes.
Are you going to talk about how I booked you inappropriately the other day on the radio and you didn't come on?
I don't know time zones well.
No, because I did that to Michael Malice today.
Oh my God.
He's like, he's typing, I'm here, I'm here, and I'm like, what?
Oh, that was Pacific time.
You're a legal scholar, not a time and basic mathematics scholar.
I got an office manager for that stuff.
Are you going to ask me whether or not Trump should run for office so you can stifle our conversation?
I'd hit it.
I'd hit it.
Yeah, let's circle back to that, as Jen Psaki would say.
God, man.
You know, she looks like every liberal – yeah, the liberal chick who's the roommate of your girlfriend at college.
I'd hit it.
I'd hit it.
I'll be honest with you.
You would?
Yeah, she's one of those girls that, like – Would you circle back?
Would you circle back?
Okay.
Okay, no further.
All the people on Rumble are going, this is the content I tuned in for!
I know!
We've got to do Schlichter and Young Uncensored.
We've still got to do shows.
Yes.
You know, I was set to do... Call me after the show.
You know, I was set to do that 12-city tour, and then the promoter never got me a contract, and so I canceled the whole thing.
I was like, if I don't have a contract, I'm not paying money to travel to make zero dollars.
Yeah, it would be... Contracts are nice.
I was told I wasn't in a position to have a contract, even though I have TV and radio contracts.
I have a lawsuit, which someday I'll tell you more about, where their basic legal argument was, well, yeah, but it'd be hard for us to comply with and meet our obligations.
I was told I wasn't in a position to have a contract, even though I have TV and radio contracts.
And I replied each year.
Well, that's very nice of you.
Did you suggest a position for them?
Ten seconds.
Portions of today's program are brought to you by Prison Fellowship.
We're back, back for the final segment on today's episode.
of America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
I'm your guest host, Kurt Schlechter.
We're continuing our chat with Tim Young, conservative comic extraordinaire.
And I want to, as Jane Psaki might say, circle back to the question du jour.
Do you, Tim Young, think that President Trump should go the full Grover Cleveland and run for president again in 2024?
Before we get to that, I just want to say that, um, it's no wonder people think I'm gay.
I was able to identify that Abba song in two notes.
Anyway, uh, I think... Wow.
Yes.
Wow.
I think, yes, he should.
I'm all in for it.
LGBTQ, why?
Why being young?
I own Abba Gold, the CD album from like the 90s, and I can sing a solid show tune, too.
Look, it's good Swedish inflected pop.
Did you know that one of the girls on there was like the result of a Nazi breeding program among Norwegians?
That's a true fact.
That actually makes sense to me.
That also explains why the band invaded Poland, which not a lot of people know about.
Anyway, go ahead and answer the question before we run out of time.
Oh, you said yes!
Why did you say yes?
Actually, I think the debate would be fun.
Because he should.
He just should.
He should get back in, honestly, just as a middle finger to the left, at the very least, to do that.
But, you know, him and DeSantis having a debate against each other... Him, DeSantis, and Noam debating each other would be very interesting.
Oh, I think Noam's history.
I think she has stepped on it quite effectively.
Oh yeah, with the transit.
But honestly, I'd really like him to rate her an 8 out of 10 in the middle of a debate.
Like, you know, you're an 8 in looks, but a 4 in debating.
Like, I think that would be great for him.
He would totally do that, too.
Yeah, exactly.
That's not a stretch.
When Trump was president, the presidency was, like, fun.
Because it was crazy.
Every day, something amazing happened.
And then we got, like, great policies.
We got peace in the Middle East, you know?
And now everyone's like, well, at least we don't have mean tweets.
Hey, we got 15 seconds.
Where can people find you?
At Tim Runs His Mouth, and at Let's Drink Bourbon on Instagram.
I drink bourbon a lot, and I talk about it, and it's amazing.
Wow.
And that's at DrinkBourbon?
At Let's Drink Bourbon.
Let's Drink Bourbon.
Is that dot com?
Dot glug?
That's on Instagram, you elderly man who doesn't know the internet.
I'm on the Facebook!
Can you give us your MySpace page, Tim Young?
I think it was T.Y.
the Rock.
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