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May 27, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: President Trump was right about the Wuhan Lab

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	It's good to go out and see and meet with real Americans across the country, patriots and conservatives, like I did two days ago in Arizona.
	But it's even better to be back in front of the microphone.
	And my, oh my, Mr. G, are you there?
	I'm here.
	What a crazy news day!
	Lots of stories.
	Isn't there for a change?
	For a change.
	I don't think we're going to be bored today, are we?
	Under Biden, there's been a lot more slower news days, though.
	Especially this week was slow until today.
	Really?
	With Colonel K at the microphone?
	This Monday, I will say, was the slowest news day we've had.
	The last two days while I was traveling, how did we do?
	Very good.
	Okay, did he throw some bombs?
	Yes, I liked it.
	Okay, I think some of our listeners may be a little bit miffed.
	I'm going to address what Kurt did.
	But Kurt, when I was getting on the plane, getting off the plane, I tuned in on the America First app.
	Yes, Dr. G uses the America First app when I'm traveling.
	And you did a great job.
	Jim Hansen was superb.
	Your other guests, crushing that stupid musician who Doesn't like Trump or whatever was lovely.
	But we're going to talk about what Kurt did, what he said about President Trump in 2024, because I just happened to have written a 2000 word, But first, can I give you a little tasting menu, a little soupçon of what is available for the next three hours?
	We have the unbelievable footage, the audio, from Sleepy Creepy, Beijing, Biden's nominee to run the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives.
	And who's bringing the chips?
	It's an old one, but it's a good one because it should actually be a department store and not a federal agency.
	The man's definition of assault rifle should scare us all.
	But good news!
	CNN has lost nearly 70% of its viewers since my old boss Donald Trump left the office.
	And, are you sad?
	Juan Williams will be leaving The Five on Fox.
	He was okay in the beginning.
	But then he became a parrot for Democrat talking points.
	Might as well be AOC in that chair.
	Who will Fox pick?
	Maybe a member of their board.
	Who's that guy?
	Oh yeah, Paul Ryan.
	He'd fit in perfectly as one Williams replacement on The Five.
	Fabulous story out of Atlanta.
	An individual who voted to defund the police to the tune of $73 million had his car stolen.
	Hmm, I wonder if there's a connection between those two events.
	USA Today is stealth editing the opinion pieces occurring in its newspapers to make them politically correct without the permission of the people who write them.
	Like the young woman, the athlete who said transgender athletes destroy the dreams of female sportswomen.
	USA Today had to remove the word man and male from the opinion piece Because some snowflake melted.
	That's USA Today trash.
	Don't even line your cat's litter box with USA Today.
	Maybe use it to light a fire instead.
	That's what I'd use it for.
	And then we're going to talk about the filibuster of the January 6 Commission, what Facebook has said about the Wuhan virus, and of course Biden and his relationship to the Wuhan lab theory.
	But let's begin.
	With what Colonel Kaye said yesterday about whether or not Donald Trump should run for the presidency again.
	Here's my take.
	We have some unfinished business in this city.
	Some of the things that are occurring the first 130 days of the Biden administration have demonstrated that the threat is greater than it has ever been before.
	Among them, the strength of the deep state.
	I am convinced that not only should Donald Trump run again, and right now I give it a 95% chance of happening, it must be Donald Trump who runs again.
	Why?
	Ron DeSantis is great.
	There are a handful of other MAGA politicians out there.
	But we need somebody who's not a politician.
	We need somebody who can come back with nothing to lose.
	And only in a Grover Cleveland-type return to the office for a second term would we have the flamethrower of a swamp-draining iconoclast that we need to fix this city and this nation.
	Donald Trump needs to accomplish a handful of things in the face of the threats we face.
	And these are the most significant threats.
	Number one, a true deep state of bureaucrats who actually believe that the will of the American electorate is irrelevant and that they get to run the country.
	Secondly, the media and Silicon Valley mafia that aids and abets not only the Democrat Party but the members of the deep state as their force multipliers and willing propagandists.
	What makes it harder to defeat these people is a dearth of qualified personnel who are prepared to, quote, step into the arena in the face of swinging libelous attacks by the press and the DNC.
	And lastly, still far too many rhinos who think 2016 was just an aberration and that they can get back to business as usual, backscratching the Democrats.
	The situation is dire.
	That is why, when Donald Trump runs for president, as I dearly hope and pray he will, he must have a handful of objectives.
	First among them, the utter destruction, once and for all, of the deep state.
	The idea that unelected officials like Alexander Vindman at the National Security Council or quote-unquote anonymous Miles Taylor at DHS, arrogate to themselves the mission to sabotage the person chosen by Americans in free elections to lead this country is a clear and present danger to all Americans and to the constitutional fabric of our nation.
	As such, such individuals must be identified within the first 60 days of the next administration, fired, stripped of their state pensions, and charged with sedition.
	Yes, are you typing Media Matters?
	Little Zaki Poo at Salon?
	Are you watching?
	Yeah, get busy.
	They should be perp-walked out of the agencies where they have borrowed themselves into, ideally in front of the cameras of CNN.
	Only then will we send the requisite message to all the members of the Deep State that it is Americans who choose their governorship, who choose their chief executive, and it is the American people who are sovereign in this republic, and it is not the members of the bureaucracy who lead this nation through their subterfuge and subversion.
	In addition, We have to deal with social media.
	The legacy media is a problem but social media have become the new fascists, the new extremists.
	Government can't solve this problem because we need the new Sheldon Adelson's, the Peter Thiel's to invest in media.
	Why is it only the Bezos of the world who buy legacy media and not conservatives?
	But beyond that, in this case, we need government.
	I know you're a conservative, but sometimes regulation is important if it's about protecting the Constitution.
	We need to use every single tool at our disposal.
	We have to break up social media.
	We have to remove their 230 immunity.
	And we have to finally stop the censorship and propaganda of these most powerful organizations.
	Only if we do these handful of things will we have a chance to save this republic.
	So Trump 2024 and MAGA 2.0.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is AmericaFest.
	And we're back.
	It's our live.
	All right.
	Good stuff.
	Cool.
	Delete that post.
	Cassie just put Bobert on there.
	On Twitter?
	Yeah.
	Will you tell him to repost?
	Yeah.
	Or delete it.
	Delete it and fix it.
	Yeah.
	No, just... It wasn't the... Oh, it's Bobert!
	Yeah, the original one.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What's that?
	What are you looking at?
	Let's post that as... Hi, what's your name?
	Oh, Boyle C&D?
	Yeah, because we had B scheduled.
	Okay.
	Hi, what's your name?
	Alright, where are you calling from?
	Alright, what did you want to say?
	You said the audio is good.
	Yeah, you want me to run it for you right now?
	Yep.
	You help support these kids make connections, discover new things that they wouldn't have otherwise discovered in their own environment.
	There aren't people yelling at them.
	There aren't people looking down on them because they have a parent who's incarcerated.
	And the only way they can get relief from that is opportunities like Angel Train.
	That's fine.
	You wanna use it?
	He's gonna use it!
	Sorry, you had a title on the tip of your tongue for that?
	Um, yes.
	Trump 2024?
	Why it has to be Trump in 2024.
	it has to be Trump in 2024 got it and then for the other two that we did today
	of course for today and then the one for tomorrow the Wuhan COVID cover up and tomorrow cover up and then the one for tomorrow Uh, Groose, um, um, Newsom loses again.
	Mm-hmm.
	Got it.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	Thank you.
	When you say why it has to be Trump in 2024, all I can think of is Trump, Trump, why did it have to be Trump?
	So you're going to come in with Angel Treat? - Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Can you put something on the calendar for me?
	Yes.
	11 a.m.
	tomorrow, S.G.
	Eliot.
	S.G.
	Eliot.
	And S.G.
	Eliot Trump.
	Yes.
	Thanks.
	I think there's one on there already.
	Is there one already, Eliot?
	Just slide it.
	Yes, it's it.
	Yeah, so change it to 11.
	11 a.m.
	Got it.
	All right.
	Coming in 30 seconds.
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	Stand by.
	See why they call you the doctor?
	Because you can operate.
	Magnificent.
	That's Vernon Jones.
	I love that.
	Thank you, Vernon.
	What a great guest.
	And also, what a great liner.
	So good to be back in the chair in front of the mic.
	Although we had a lot of fun with the team at Patriot 970 in Phoenix.
	Thank you, everybody.
	Jim, Sean, Sam, the whole crew, especially Mike Gallagher on the stage with me and Andy Biggs and Seth Leibson.
	You know, sometimes an event Just clicks.
	There's just some kind of... I think it was the full moon.
	Was it a full moon two days ago?
	I think it was a full moon.
	Maybe it was the full moon.
	You know, we didn't go Jekyll and Hyde.
	We didn't go Wolfman.
	But there was some chemistry on that stage.
	And I've never seen Andy.
	Andy Biggs.
	Congressman Biggs.
	Got so emotional.
	We were talking about the power of prayer.
	The importance of our faith, the crisis at the border, and it was incredible.
	I'm going to share with you some of the things that happened, but first, before the event, Mike Geek, who's always conniving, he's always doing something, pulls me out of the VIP event and says, Seb, I've got a plan.
	I've got an idea.
	The Angel Tree thing.
	We're going to beat that Hugh Hewitt.
	We're going to crush Hugh Hewitt.
	And we're going to have a special offer.
	And this is his plan.
	He recorded this whole thing with me.
	We're trying to get the file.
	But let me explain it to you.
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	There aren't people yelling at them.
	There aren't people looking down on them because they have a parent who's incarcerated.
	And the only way they can get relief from that is opportunities like Angel Train.
	That's the only way to break that cycle, to give them some fellowship, some love from the gospel and a safe place this summer.
	Make a donation for $200 and that's a child for a week.
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	I might even get Mike to sing some show tunes, but you'll have access to the master and Dr. G. So here's how it works.
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	The number 703-585-3668.
	It's one of the most glorious things you can do.
	And we want to up our game.
	And even if you just want to do it to show Hugh Hewitt who the real pros are, that's a good reason as well!
	Just do it!
	Ring this number, leave a message that you are going to make that donation.
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	Write the number down.
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	If that's beyond your means, if the timing isn't right, but you still want to help these children, a donation in any amount makes a difference.
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	Okay, lot of fun there.
	Please support these children.
	Let's talk about the big news of the day.
	Joe Biden, Facebook, and the Wuhan lab.
	Let's listen to Sleepy Creepy, video cut one.
	Will you pledge to release the report in full after 90 days?
	Yes, unless there's something I'm unaware of.
	That leadership!
	I mean, just that!
	Will you release the report you have requested on the intelligence investigation of whether or not the Wuhan lab let out the coronavirus?
	And then he says, yeah, I will.
	Uh, unless there's something else I'm aware of.
	Or I'm sleeping.
	I don't know, maybe?
	Whatever.
	I didn't take my chair at all.
	That'll be a good reason.
	You gotta play that again.
	Come on, guys.
	Cut one.
	Will you pledge to release the report in full after 90 days?
	Yes, unless there's something I'm unaware of.
	How did he get to be president?
	I think you know.
	I call him Pseudo.
	Let's call him Pseudo.
	Sleepy Creepy Pseudo.
	That's who he is.
	We're going to play you with the amazing reminders of what the media said about that theory.
	It was a debunked conspiracy theory.
	Did you know that?
	Until this week, I guess.
	Rule of thumb, if you ever hear the phrase debunked theory in the mainstream media, It's true.
	That's the new rule of thumb.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Sylvia, California, line one.
	First call of the day.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	How are you?
	I'm good.
	I'm back in the studio.
	Hey, why did the second caller drop off?
	So rude.
	Some guy.
	I want to take his call, and he couldn't wait for me to take Sylvia, who was first in line.
	Come on, dude.
	Show a little backbone.
	Carry on.
	Okay, yes, President Trump should run again in 2024, and he will win a third term.
	If things proceed the way they've done in the last three months, it goes without saying.
	I'm sorry.
	That's okay.
	He is the best president this country has ever had.
	I'll say in my lifetime, there you go.
	I love President Trump.
	It would be an honor to work for him again.
	But hang on a second.
	I think George Washington, okay?
	Oh, yes.
	And Abraham Lincoln, okay?
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe just a tad, a little nose, a nose, a hair in front of Donald Trump.
	Okay?
	Is that fair?
	I'll say in my lifetime.
	There you go.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	He just has to make sure that the people around him support him because they're going to go after him like never before.
	Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, all of them that have sold their soul to the devil are going to go after him 100%.
	Totally!
	And he will win again.
	He will win again.
	And he will get this country back on track.
	And as long as he has the good people standing by him, he'll be doing good.
	Yeah, it's not just that he has to have good people standing by him, and you'll see this in my article in the next two days.
	We have to have the bench.
	We have to build that incorruptible, courageous team that just trains the swamp with President Trump.
	That's one of the weaknesses we had when we went in, because there were so few of us.
	We were surrounded by rhinos, saboteurs, seditionists, like Miles Taylor, like Colonel Vindman.
	They have to be kicked out of government!
	Fast!
	And then we take control and we get our country back to the U.S.
	Constitution and to being the greatest nation on God's earth, the shining city on the hill.
	Don't go anywhere.
	Matt Boyle next, but Alex, John V, stay on the line.
	Is number four ranting again?
	I haven't answered probably.
	All right.
	Give me a mic, son.
	We can't do it. - Yeah.
	recording?
	Is this a recording?
	To the United States in America and to the rest of the world.
	You know you need psychiatric assistance, right?
	The idea that you just ring up and babble, I need to know, are you demon possessed?
	Yeah, I think we have the answer.
	Goodbye!
	Thank you!
	What's your name?
	Hey Matt, are you there?
	I'm here, can you hear me?
	You sound great.
	The Matster!
	And so do the Rumble viewers.
	How's it going, Matt?
	Dr. Gorka, always a pleasure, good to talk to you guys.
	How we doing, Mr. Boyle?
	Doing fantastic, doing fantastic.
	Good.
	Alright, we gotta talk filibuster, we gotta talk Biden and Wu Han, what... Oh yeah, well the President's engaged in a cover-up.
	I love it.
	The President himself.
	Joe Biden, what did you know and when did you know it?
	What else are you working on?
	A lot of stuff with regard to China.
	This whole Senate China bill is really interesting.
	I'm tracking the infrastructure negotiations.
	Are you talking about the Ron Paul one or something else?
	This whole Endless Frontier Act.
	There's some merit to doing it, because it's meant to counter the Made in China 2025 plan by putting a massive investment in US science and infrastructure, etc.
	But at the same time, There's concerns that there aren't safeguards on the legislation to keep the Chinese from stealing our intellectual property again.
	Who's championing it?
	Schumer.
	Schumer, okay.
	So it's a Schumer-led thing, but there's bipartisan support for it.
	Okay.
	So there's good senators who support it, like a Dane's... Let's break it down.
	By the way, I'm getting a lot of feedback of me.
	I don't know what that is.
	We're not getting that.
	I'm not getting any of that issue.
	You might have your headphones turned up too high.
	Yeah, I'm trying to think of which one is the right one here.
	It should be the local output or return output.
	It should be local, right?
	Yeah, hold on.
	Let me see if that's any better.
	Yeah, there we go.
	Okay.
	Dr. G?
	Yes?
	I'm going to whisper you in your ear real quick.
	I got it.
	I got it. - Okay, I got it.
	Someone in the chat says, quote, the host that was on yesterday is a rhino.
	Ouch.
	I think Colonel K would disagree with that assessment, but to each their own.
	No, not to each their own.
	He's not a rhino.
	We will touch upon it.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, that's objectively false.
	Sorry, 6777.
	Sorry, 6777.
	A very original name.
	Alright, 20 seconds.
	Standby.
	What are we doing on numbers right now, actually?
	Rumble.
	Yeah, what's rumble looking like?
	Over 1,800 right now.
	Nice!
	right now.
	Nice.
	Stand by.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Guys, come on!
	You know Colonel K. Stop it now!
	I know it's always hard when I leave the studio.
	Who's gonna be the guest host?
	Jennifer Horne, hardest working lady on radio.
	Can't always reach out to her.
	Yesterday we used Colonel K, and he ain't no rhino.
	Whoever wrote that in the comment stream on Rumble, seriously, read what he says.
	He just raised the question, is Donald Trump the best man to run in 2024?
	Yeah, he is.
	I'm sorry.
	That's an empirical fact.
	I'll keep unpacking it.
	We'll get to your cause, Rick.
	Alex, John, don't go anywhere.
	But now we have to talk swamp with the man who knows it the best, the Washington political editor for Breitbart.com, the most consequential conservative website on the planet, none other than Matt Boyle.
	Matt, welcome back to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, it is always a pleasure.
	Love being here.
	So there was a phrase associated with Richard Nixon when it came to the Watergate break-in.
	When, what did he know and when did he know it?
	Why did you use that phrase with me in the break, Matt?
	Well, look, Joe Biden personally shut down a commission in an investigation that the Trump administration had launched that was being run from the State Department under Secretary Pompeo into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.
	Now, this pandemic has wreaked trillions of dollars of havoc upon the world, just on the United States, never mind the whole world over.
	But it's cost hundreds of thousands of lives.
	We've seen massive costs in terms of economic costs and so on and so forth.
	And so we have every right to demand an answer as to where did it originate.
	If it actually did originate in nature, then okay, fine.
	I get it.
	The Chinese aren't as – they're still responsible, by the way, regardless of how this all shakes out.
	They're still responsible because they didn't take the proper measures at the beginning to contain this thing.
	But here's the thing.
	If it was being – if it was created in a lab, which, by the way, Dr. Anthony Fauci's office at the NIAID was funding through – with our taxpayer dollars.
	Hang on.
	You've got to be careful because he's such a tricky dicky himself.
	He's such a Clintonista.
	What is the definition of is, is, remember?
	He said, oh no, oh no, Senator Paul, you completely have that wrong.
	We didn't fund anything.
	Well, we know Fauci, you funneled the money through a third party front organization.
	And Anthony Fauci does not deny taxpayer dollars going to this lab to research coronaviruses from bats.
	He doesn't deny that.
	He just denies that it was gain-of-function research, which is the theory as to the virus being human-altered before it leaked out of the lab.
	Now look, there's any number of possibilities.
	Is it possible that it was man-made and then deliberately leaked?
	Yeah.
	Is it possible that it leaked by accident after it was man-made?
	Sure.
	Is it also possible that it was naturally forming and then they were studying it in the lab and then it leaked that way?
	Sure.
	All of these things are possible.
	And then also, it still is a possibility that it was, you know, it came from the wet market.
	I get it that that's still out there as a possibility.
	We don't know because the Chinese Communist Party, which is an opaque dictatorship, has been hiding this information.
	We need transparency.
	We need massive investigation.
	And we had that investigation under President Trump.
	So the reason why I was saying, what did he know and when did he know it, is that Joe Biden, the president of the United States, personally ordered the shutdown of the Trump administration's investigation.
	Joe Biden himself, just yesterday, as more facts have become available about this, tried to open up a new investigation to try to cover up.
	So Joe Biden himself, the President of the United States, is engaged in a cover-up of the origins of this coronavirus pandemic that's claimed hundreds of thousands of American lives.
	It's cost us trillions of our dollars, and it's cost millions of people around the world.
	I mean, it's gotta be tens of trillions of dollars of damage this virus and this pandemic have caused the entire planet.
	So, Joe Biden's cover-up of the origins of the coronavirus pandemic is going to be one of the biggest stories in the weeks, months, and years to come.
	And his decision to end that original investigation, which he ordered, As commander-in-chief.
	He ordered it.
	The box stops with him.
	They can't blame someone else.
	It's on him.
	It's on his desk personally.
	And you saw that from the White House yesterday when Biden himself was forced to issue a statement from the president that came out to the entire press corps to try to clear the whole mess up.
	But I will say this, I've noticed a sea change happen in American politics.
	I was talking to top Democrats the other day.
	Can we stop there and use that as a cliffhanger, a tease?
	Sure.
	When Matt Boyle, when Matt Boyle says he's noticed a sea change, I want to know and I don't want to hit the post at the end of this segment.
	We have got to talk about it in full context, in detail.
	So wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that dial.
	We'll be back with Matt Boyle and then your calls.
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	Mike's back on.
	So tell me, what is the thing you've noticed, Matt?
	So I was talking to a very high-ranking Democrat, I can't name them while we're live here, but yesterday, who called me out of the blue.
	By the way, this same person was not interested at all in discussing the origins of the coronavirus from a lab and so on and so forth.
	Calls me out of the blue yesterday and says, if this came from the lab, then the Chinese need to wipe out our entire national debt, all to several trillion of whatever we owe them.
	We're not paying them back.
	This is a Democrat.
	A Democrat!
	Well, not only that, that weird little incel guy at the Washington Post, Rogan, Rogan, right?
	He said the same thing.
	Right.
	Well, Rogan's actually been pretty good on China, I'll give him that.
	If you look back at some of the stories he did, he was doing stories on this whole China Commission that the Republicans in the House were trying to do, and he exposed the Democrats in the House covering up this whole thing.
	By the way, there was supposed to be a bipartisan China Commission last year in Congress.
	McCarthy and Pelosi made the deal.
	Pelosi backed out of it.
	At the last second, as the pandemic swept across the country because she thought she could take out Trump by not focusing on China.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's absolutely unbelievable.
	So, I think this is a real problem for the Democrats, and they've started to realize it, and the public is demanding answers on this.
	Rightfully so.
	So we'll see if we get them.
	Yeah, not under Beijing Biden.
	Well, I don't think they're going to be able to hold back the floodgates here.
	You really think that?
	I think we're going to get the truth.
	I think we're going to get the truth.
	I'm very confident of it.
	Well, we're not.
	Why would we get the truth from Communist China?
	I'm not going to let our investigators in.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I'm talking about with regard to our side of it, right?
	Like what happened with Fauci, etc.
	I think that the Democrats will throw Fauci under the bus if that happens.
	I think that's happening.
	That's really, I think that's going to happen soon.
	Can you do me a favor?
	Can you do a little clip of John Cena being a cuck in Chinese?
	Yeah.
	Right, just like 15 seconds.
	What a, what a putz.
	I mean, what a grade A jerk.
	Alright, stand by.
	by 20 seconds, Matt.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
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	Matt, you were telling us about some fascinating sea change you were detecting on the left.
	What's going on, Matt?
	Yeah, look, they're starting to realize that the public is really upset about the origins of the coronavirus and whether or not it came from this Wuhan lab or not.
	And Biden's effort to cover up the origins of the coronavirus.
	pandemic and the investigation into it.
	Now Biden's trying to cover up his cover up, right?
	So that's where we're at now.
	Because he just reopened a new one after he shut down the Pompeo investigation.
	So now Biden just opened a new investigation.
	But here's the thing is that the Democrats, I think, recognize where the public's at on this.
	You saw Senator Tim Kaine, who was Hillary Clinton's running mate, out there demanding such an investigation.
	Other people are too.
	I would not be surprised in the slightest if down the road, the Democrats don't throw Anthony Fauci under the bus for this.
	Matt, I think that's going to happen soon.
	Very possible, because the Democrats recognize how politically toxic this is.
	The American public has woken up to China like you have no idea.
	That's thanks to President Trump.
	Everybody will tell you that, even the Democrats will tell you that, that what President Trump did on China is unbelievable.
	By the way, go back and look at Antony Blinken's confirmation hearing as Secretary of State.
	He literally said, he praised Trump for waking up the world to China.
	Right, and the threat of the Chinese Communist Party, because before President Trump, the Bushes, the Obamas, the Clintons, the foreign policy establishment of both political parties wasn't aware and wasn't awake to the fact that the Chinese Communist Party is on the rise.
	Trump woke the world up to that.
	The public is now, too.
	And we see that, and the Democrats are in trouble on this.
	That's why they're doing a China bill in the U.S.
	Senate today.
	That's why they're doing...
	Now, their China bill is weak, it's nonsensical, there's problems in it, there aren't protections to protect intellectual property theft, but the fact that they're even doing something is a sign that the Democrats understand that this is a very potent issue and that they are on the wrong side of history.
	Let's listen to exactly what President Trump did.
	It's one of my most viral tweets of the last 48 hours.
	I don't know where it is.
	20,000, 30,000 retweets and likes.
	This is April of last year.
	President Donald Trump video cut 9.
	My question is, have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the origin of this virus?
	Yes, I have.
	Yes, I have.
	And I think that the World Health Organization should be ashamed of themselves, because they're like the public relations agency for China.
	He told us a year ago, Matt, but we've been told by the legacy media that that's just a debunked conspiracy theory until this week.
	Well, a headline I wrote, I just pulled this up, April 27, 2020, headline, exclusive on Breitbart, US investigating Wuhan lab suspected of coronavirus leak.
	We uncovered internal documents from the National Institutes of Health that showed this as far back as April 2020, around that time that President Trump took that question from Fox News' John Roberts.
	The whole point here is that, and then Facebook barred anybody from talking about this on their platform.
	They shut everyone down.
	Now Facebook, last night, in one of their most unbelievable decisions, which proves that big tech censorship is real, and that these decisions are arbitrary and dangerous by big tech companies, they finally have now allowed people to start talking about it.
	On their platform, because they recognize that the public understands that this is where the debate is going.
	The experts understand it.
	They tried to shut us all down.
	We were all right.
	President Trump was right.
	Breitbart was right.
	Dr. Gorka was right.
	Fox was right.
	The establishment media, the big tech companies, the Democrats, and even some establishment Republicans were all wrong.
	Joe Biden tried to cover it up at the beginning of his presidency, and now he's trying to cover up the cover-up.
	So we'll see how this all shakes out, but here's the thing.
	The truth is going to get out.
	I'm very confident of that, because the American public is demanding it.
	We're seeing that in the polling data.
	We're seeing that in the interest in these stories.
	We're seeing the big tech companies break on this whole thing.
	And this may be the dam that breaks so many more other things.
	The origins of this coronavirus pandemic, because of all the damage that happened to the whole world as a result of this pandemic.
	And again, regardless of what the truth is, and regardless of who's responsible, And so on and so forth.
	We are going to get there and we are going to get accountability.
	I'm very confident of it.
	I think Matt Boyle slept on a MyPillow last night.
	I actually did.
	Oh, he did?
	Of course he did!
	I did, I did.
	Perfect, he's on fire.
	We've got literally 60 seconds left.
	I have to ask you, with regards to the filibuster and the impending vote, is there a chance That the January 6th subpoena-empowered commission Nancy wants to use as a weapon will not be approved by the Senate, Matt Boyle.
	I think there's not just a chance, I think it's the almost guaranteed outcome here.
	Good.
	There's not going to be a Nancy Pelosi.
	The version that passed the House doesn't stand a chance, snowballs chance in heck, of making it through the U.S.
	Senate.
	The question is whether or not they're going to be able to make changes to it.
	Doesn't look like it.
	So I don't think we're going to get a commission.
	Everybody understands there's already congressional subpoena committees with subpoena power and the Democrats have the majorities in both chambers.
	They got what they need to go investigate this.
	Have a ball.
	Have as many hearings as you want to.
	We don't need a new one.
	But then we get hearings on Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
	That would be a fair swap.
	Superb.
	Superb.
	Nicely done.
	Send me.
	I need that link.
	Text me now the link to the article you mentioned where Breitbart spoke about the Wuhan Lab last year, and we're going to spread it to the whole world on our platforms as well.
	Thank you, Matt Boyle.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Title for that one.
	one.
	Biden's Wuhan cover-up.
	Asking a child to cancel our debt honestly would be such a What?
	China to cancel our debt.
	Yeah.
	That would be such a perfect- Over literally their dead body.
	No, there's a legitimate argument for it, but the problem is Biden would botch that.
	No, no, no.
	You don't understand.
	We would literally have to kill them to make that happen.
	There is no way they're just going to give us trillions of dollars.
	That's, that's the last thing they have over us.
	Yeah, that is true.
	Yeah.
	It's the perfect opportunity to ask it for them and have like- To what end?
	To what end?
	I know one president wouldn't have asked to just tell them we're not paying them.
	You're right!
	Debt?
	What debt?
	So how much time we got here?
	3 minutes 50 seconds.
	How many dissenters VP calls are you going to take?
	One.
	There were only like a handful in the live chat yesterday.
	I'm so over the infatuation with him.
	Hang on, so which DJT do we say, do we play?
	Nine or seven?
	Nine.
	The flashback one.
	Which is nine, right?
	And seven was from Cortez?
	Yes.
	Can you come in with that?
	Which one?
	Seven.
	Seven, yes.
	Wait for the disclaimer, please.
	He's got that Sina cut, just a short one.
	I have the Sina cut.
	Which is like video 11?
	It's video.
	I'll just put it as Sina clip.
	I didn't want to mess up the cut.
	Just call for Sina and I'll play Sina.
	Five seconds.
	Coming at 7 after disclaimer.
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	Thank you.
	I think it was obvious to smart people that's where it came from.
	I have no doubt about it.
	I had no doubt about it.
	I was criticized by the press because China has a lot of people taken care of.
	They took care of Hunter.
	They took care of Joe.
	They took care of everybody, didn't they?
	And people didn't want to say China.
	Usually they blame it on Russia.
	An amazing interview.
	One-on-one.
	Steve Cortez, my buddy.
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	Almost as long as the interview we had.
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	Dan, you're crushing it.
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	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to John, South Carolina, waiting very patiently.
	Welcome, John.
	Dr. G, I never wait patiently.
	You know that.
	Listen, you realize that you have been pronouncing Dr. Fauci's name incorrectly, don't you?
	Enlighten me, John.
	The F is silent.
	It's Dr. Ouchy.
	Oh, I like that.
	It's a little cute, though, and I don't think of him as cute.
	I think of him as... You know how it's really pronounced?
	Wow.
	Fascist.
	That's how it's pronounced.
	Either that or Dr. Falsely or Falsety.
	One of the two.
	Yes.
	One of those.
	Listen, are you familiar at all with the report from February 17th, 2017 in Helio, I think is the way it's pronounced.
	H-E-A-L-I-O, excuse me, H-E-A-L-I-O dot com.
	It's an infectious disease site.
	And the lead on this story is Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, MD, excuse me, Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that there is no doubt, air quotes, President Donald J. Trump will be confronted with a surprise infectious disease outbreak during his term.
	Oh yeah, I've seen this and a lot of QAnon types and conspiracy theorists have said, And it's like, are you serious?
	It's like me saying back in 2016, President Trump will be faced by terror attacks from ISIS.
	It's like, so if there is a terror attack, it means Sebastian Gorka was behind it?
	No, the guy's an epidemiologist.
	That's not where I'm going with that at all.
	What I'm saying is that basically it supports the possibility that he knew that this virus was under development.
	John, you know why that doesn't hold any water?
	John, you know why that doesn't hold any water?
	John, no, no, no.
	No, I can't because we're out of time.
	Well, we've got two researchers who came down with the illness.
	John, John, if that's true, why would he say it in public?
	See what I mean?
	If you're a conspiring plotter, you don't give interviews about it.
	But interesting theories!
	Thank you, John.
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	B. You want me to get it for that?
	It's long though.
	How long is it?
	Can you check it?
	You want me to shorten it?
	Tell me how long.
	If it's... I heard it today.
	It's long.
	Yeah, shorten it.
	Alright.
	How long do you want it to be about?
	90 seconds.
	Alright.
	Mic's back on.
	How's it going Rumble viewers?
	Over 2100 of you. 2100?! !
	That's more than Sleepy Creepy gets.
	That's like three times what Sleepy Creepy Biden gets.
	His buddies in Beijing don't, you know.
	Hey, can they comment now?
	Live chat.
	Yes, they are.
	Live chat?
	Are you chatting live?
	We love it!
	Are we going to record this thingy, right?
	Because I've made edits.
	It's not well written.
	Very badly written.
	When do you want to do that?
	Next break.
	OK, that'll work.
	We've got to make sure we get everything ready for Tom, so we might want to have to put that up.
	Oh, because he's comrades there.
	We'll do it later.
	We've just got to make sure that all works out.
	It must have been the Jen thing.
	It's definitely on her end, because Oil went through fine.
	But it sounds like a weird comrex that it was saying trying to connect or something.
	So usually if there's any sort of error, that'll happen.
	But I was on my end and it was telling me it was trying to connect, which never happens when that happens.
	So I assume that there was some sort of security issue or something on their end.
	Give us a rumble, guys.
	Hit that rumble button.
	Hit the rumble button, guys!
	You heard Eric!
	Alright.
	30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Standing by. Standing
	by. Standing
	by.
	I'm very excited!
	I don't know who really inherits Rush Limbaugh's slot because he had several companies that syndicated him.
	Dan Bongino here in DC doing a fine job.
	And today, is it today's news?
	Buck Sexton, that's today's news.
	Buck Sexton will be inheriting that slot as well with a new co-host, Clay Travis.
	That's going to be on fire.
	Buck, congratulations.
	Nobody can replace Rush Limbaugh.
	But with people like that, we're going to have more Freedom Fighters broadcasting to millions of listeners.
	And let's remember the one element of society that we still own, This Patriots is talk radio.
	Godspeed, Buck.
	Godspeed.
	I know you will do just fine.
	Before we get to your calls, don't go anywhere.
	James Anthony Antoinette.
	Gotta play just a little montage given the fact that...
	There's been a reversal.
	This is from justthenews.com.
	Alex Knitsberg.
	Facebook will no longer eliminate posts that allege coronavirus is man-made or manufactured.
	This is the official quote from Facebook.
	In light of ongoing investigations into the origin of COVID-19 and in consultation with public health experts, we will no longer remove the claim that COVID-19 is man-made or manufactured from our apps.
	We're continuing to work with health experts to keep pace with the evolving nature of the pandemic and regularly update our policies as new facts and trends emerge.
	Why?
	You're a social media platform, not a publisher.
	Or did we get something wrong when we gave you immunity from libel prosecution under the 230 clause?
	What is Facebook?
	Why is Facebook consulting with public health experts?
	What is your response?
	Are you a government agency?
	Are you a news provider?
	Because you said you weren't.
	And that's why you have immunity.
	I think you just admitted that you are a publisher, Mark Zuckerberg.
	And you should be stripped of your immunity.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Anthony, North Carolina.
	Welcome aboard, Anthony.
	Good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
	I think Fauci, he didn't release the virus, but it was created.
	You're kind of losing me there.
	on the coronavirus.
	So Fauci Stein's monster was funded by the taxpayers.
	I mean, the money line goes right back to them and Wuhan just leaked it.
	China is to blame too for leaking it because they got a crappy lab.
	I mean, you know.
	You're kind of losing me there.
	So what are you saying Fauci did?
	That's Fauci Stein's monster there.
	The coronavirus is Fauci-Stein's monster.
	So, I don't understand.
	He wanted to kill half a million Americans?
	No, he wanted to, he was doing, he needed to gain a function research.
	To advance his research he was doing in the States.
	I don't think he created it to kill people.
	I think he created it.
	He was going to try to make a vaccine or see what the outcome is.
	Yeah, that's all hypothesis.
	And at the end of the day, you know, Anthony, the bottom line is the guy doesn't do any research.
	He's an old bureaucrat.
	He hasn't been in a lab for, I bet, 20 years.
	So he bears responsibility for the federal funds he approved through a cutout to a communist level 4 virology lab.
	But the idea he was doing it to promote his own research, I guarantee you, Anthony, that man hasn't put on a hazard suit and gone into a virology lab to do dangerous research in at least 20 years.
	It's an interesting theory, no?
	Yeah, I think that Trump will win the next four years with DeSantis as his VP and then I think DeSantis will run for the next eight and he'll win the next eight having 12 years in the White House.
	Possibly, possibly.
	I'm not sure, however, that DeSantis could run by himself a president, but the idea that he brings something to a Trump ticket by himself, because usually, and I know everything changed in 2016, James, usually the veep pick is somebody who brings a different demographic, a different part of America, a different region of America,
	I'm not sure two very Trumpian figures, Donald Trump himself and then Ron DeSantis.
	I don't think you bring any added constituency with Ron on the ticket.
	James?
	I think DeSantis will run after him with Ted Cruz as his VP.
	That's never happening.
	Never.
	Never.
	What did Matt say?
	A snowball's chance in heck.
	I like that phrase.
	The idea that Ted Cruz would run as anybody's vice president.
	If I were a betting man, I would put a million bucks on that right now.
	He would run for president and he's tried to, but to be second fiddle to anybody else Out of the question.
	But thank you for your call, James.
	Let's play, I promise, the montage of the mainstream media telling you for a year until this week that, oh, it's a debunked conspiracy.
	No!
	Donald Trump is just conspiring crazy ideas when he talks about the Wuhan lab's connection to the coronavirus.
	Audio cut 11.
	Because we don't know where the novel coronavirus came from yet, the conspiracy theories fill the void.
	I'm telling you the Chai Khans are trying to weaponize this thing.
	Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh with zero proof suggesting a Chinese bioweapon lab is to blame.
	There's this question about the Wuhan lab.
	We know that it's been debunked.
	Those same agencies now have been tapped with investigating one of Trump world's most favorite conspiracy theories.
	Coming up with a conspiracy theory to try and foment xenophobia has just as much factual support as taking Clorox.
	He can't just sit back and let the doctors and the scientists do their jobs.
	He's got to chime in.
	He may pick up the conspiracy theory that this was some weapon.
	People don't keep bats in captivity.
	It's a complete baloney.
	We don't need to invoke conspiracy theories.
	This is just another example of the president trying to change the narrative from his own failings.
	If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, is very, very strongly leaning towards this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.
	What a fabulous montage.
	I just have one question.
	After that montage.
	How did Al Sharpton get a TV show?
	I still do not understand Antoinette, California line three.
	Welcome back to America first.
	Hey, Dr. G. Thank you so much and welcome back yourself.
	Thank you.
	Voice for the voiceless.
	We are strong.
	We're there every Friday, 4.30 to 6.30.
	But we also were at Tuesday at the Board of Supervisors trying to protest that vaccine passport nonsense.
	We went there early.
	So hang on, hang on.
	For people who don't know who you are, which Board of Supervisors?
	Where were you, Antoinette?
	Orange County, California.
	Southern California.
	So tell us what you experienced.
	Well, they said they were going to have the meeting in the morning, and they didn't.
	Of course, they kept postponing it, postponing it.
	We were there early in the morning, and then around 1.30 is when they decided to allow some people to speak.
	But we are fighting strong, and we've got to continue with our strength.
	For this Memorial Day, that it's a blessed and peaceful day for this Memorial Day, for all our heroes that have died for our country, that's the other thing I wanted to tell you.
	Very, very kind.
	And we love hearing from you every Thursday the update from the brave women who are the voice for the voiceless, who have, as Antoinette has shared with us, literally saved lives outside those abortion clinics.
	If you want to join them, if you want to show your support every Friday at the junction of MacArthur Boulevard and PCH 430, 630 local time, please go and say hi to Antoinette.
	That's the corner of PCH and MacArthur Boulevard, 430 to 630 every Friday afternoon.
	God bless you for doing what you do.
	And for your remarks on Memorial Day where we will have a very special edition of America First with the big names!
	Oh yeah!
	Oh yeah!
	It's gonna be none other than Victor Davis Hanson for an hour!
	We're gonna go deep dive!
	What is Biden doing to the military?
	What are the threats to America?
	Lord Conrad Black for an hour and then a reprise of our exclusive interview for all Almost the whole hour with my old boss.
	You know who he is.
	Donald John Trump, the 45th President of the United States.
	That's Memorial Monday.
	Okay, mic's on.
	And thank you, Rumble.
	We have just set a new record.
	2,500 of you watching right now.
	Nice.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	Uh-huh.
	Thanks.
	So Mr. Rose needs the next two seconds.
	Yeah, he'll be connecting in the next probably 45 seconds.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	Can you print for me the Daily Wire story about Biden meeting with Hunter Biden's business associates?
	Was that recently?
	Today.
	Breitbart had that in October.
	The restaurant meeting?
	Yeah, and the New York Post confirmed it today.
	That's what Daily Wire is taking it from.
	Wow.
	Is that in the story that Breitbart had it?
	Do they admit it?
	That's the only reason I didn't put it in there because I thought So you want to print the New York Post piece?
	Uh, both.
	Oh, okay.
	Let me see.
	Let me find it.
	Mr. Rose.
	Yes?
	Can you give us a quick audio check?
	Yeah, audio check.
	One, two, three.
	Ah!
	What a lovely voice.
	Well, there we are.
	It's my mucker from the White House, me old mate!
	How are you?
	Good.
	How do I introduce you?
	Mike Pence's buddy?
	What do I say?
	Well, I was Chief Strategist in... Chief Strategist?
	Wasn't it Foreign Policy Advisor?
	Or just Advisor?
	Well, yeah, Deputy National Security Advisor, all that stuff.
	Deputy National Security... Woo!
	What other affiliations can I use for you?
	Radio phenomenon.
	But there we go.
	That's it.
	Just all-around fabulous.
	All-around dude.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Mic's are live on our live stream, by the way, Mr. Rose.
	He won't use any naughty words.
	He's a good boy.
	Certainly not, and fortunately this is radio, so you don't have to look at me.
	How you doing?
	I'm good, man.
	How are you?
	Good.
	You're in Arlington.
	Where are you?
	Oh, Bill Bennett's old studio.
	Um, that's downtown.
	Where is that?
	No, it's Arlington.
	Oh, yeah.
	Where does he do his podcast?
	Probably from his house.
	Oh, I think from his house.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So when are you gonna get back to the swamp?
	Well, I will be back.
	I bought a place in Florida.
	Wow!
	Everybody's doing that!
	I know, I know, I know.
	So, the movers were supposed to come yesterday.
	They said now it's ten days.
	There's a front page story in the Wall Street Journal today, I don't know if you saw it, about you're in Florida, all your stuff is in a truck somewhere.
	About how this moving spree and the shortage of drivers is leaving people who are moving to Florida high and dry for months at a time.
	So, Um, fortunately it's Florida, and it's the summer, so all you really need is a t-shirt and a pair of pants.
	Need to see you in the swamp sometime.
	Standby in 30 seconds.
	Are you going to use the Gallagher audio?
	You wanted to do tree here.
	Okay.
	How long is it?
	Minute 19.
	Minute 19.
	Minute 19. Stand by. Stand
	by.
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	My Salem colleague.
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	Now, time for a very special guest for two segments here on America First.
	I never even expected I'd get him on my show.
	He was so important, way above me in the White House.
	He ended up as Deputy National Security Advisor to Mike Pence, Chief Strategist to the Vice President of the United States.
	Good friend of mine.
	And just, he told me, you've got to tell everyone, all three million of our listeners, he's just an all-around amazing dude.
	Tom Rose!
	Welcome to America First!
	The G-Man.
	How are you, Doc?
	I like that.
	The G-Man.
	I am very well.
	Much better for hearing your voice.
	And I forgot to say, you're just, you know, you're a radio guy.
	Like Mike Pence was.
	Well, like Dr. G is.
	Like the G-Man.
	I'm a newbie.
	I'm a newbie.
	I'm a neophyte.
	You're a pro.
	No, you're good.
	You are good, man.
	I have to tell you, whenever Dr. G, the G-Man, is walking through the halls of the White House, it was like Moses and the Red Sea.
	It split apart.
	People would hit the walls on each side.
	In a good way!
	Right, in a good way.
	Absolutely!
	Oh, absolutely!
	Except the one person, I have to share this with you, a little inside baseball.
	What a weirdo she was.
	Whenever she heard my voice, Wherever we were in the West Wing, she would stop and start screaming.
	And Omarosa would say, oh, Sebastian Gorka, the most amazing voice in the White House.
	And she did it more than once a day.
	Tom, not normal.
	I'm sorry.
	Just not normal.
	Well, she was your hire.
	Oh, you're a sneaky bugger.
	No, she most definitely was not.
	And I'm so glad that she has now disappeared from polite company.
	Okay, Tom, let's get down to business.
	Follow this man on Twitter right now, TomRoseIndy, E-I-N-D-Y for obvious reasons.
	Tom, you reached out to me so we can have a chat in front of our listeners, our viewers on Rumble about how they're going after Marjorie Taylor Greene, the comments she made a couple of days ago.
	We can talk about that, but we've got much bigger fish to fry with your expertise on foreign policy, what's happening in the Middle East, what's happening with anti-Semitism in America.
	But first, let's start with the reason you reached out.
	Your reaction to the comments made by MTG?
	She, in a speech the other day in Congress, one of these 60-second moments that they have, made a silly analogy.
	She was talking about vaccination, the compelling, coercive nature that government is assuming to force people to get vaxxed, and called, referenced, The desire in some states to mandate vaccinations as equivalent to the Nazis ordering Jews to wear the yellow star.
	Now, that was not a smart thing to say.
	It really wasn't.
	It was kind of a silly analogy.
	But she's being hammered and ridiculed Not just by the Democrat anti-Semites, which is rich in and of itself, and to be expected, but by Republicans.
	Kevin McCarthy, who I like, who I think is terrific in many ways, was instantly out of the gate to call her comments appalling and outrageous and disgusting.
	I don't think they were appalling and outrageous and disgusting.
	I think they were dumb.
	I think there's a huge, huge difference between ignorance and hatred.
	The analogy was poor, but there was nothing anti-Semitic about it, nothing at all.
	And we've got Democrats Dr. G, to thank for reminding us about this fact, since in the past two weeks they've shown the entire country what true, unadulterated anti-Semitism looks like.
	The whole thing was very troubling to me, not because so much the Democrat attempt to completely and totally marginalize her, but it's just too rich for words how these first-class Jew haters, AOC who's disgusting, Tlaib who's just spews forth sewage every time she opens her mouth.
	And, I mean, the list goes on.
	Bernie Sanders, I don't care how he identifies himself or what he says he is, he's nothing but an anti-Israel hater, that these people accuse pro-Israel people of being anti-Semites and they get away with it.
	And at the end of the day, Marjorie Taylor Greene is pro-America and pro-Israel and is a religious Jew.
	That's all I care about.
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to think, Tom, was there anybody on the institutional right in the last three weeks during the 4,000 rockets being launched on Israel who made the moral equivalency argument between Israel and Hamas that members of Congress with a D after their name did?
	Not a one.
	Forget about Israel and Hamas.
	Remember when AOC compares ICE agents and Border Patrol agents to Nazi concentration camps?
	This is crucial.
	So when you do the Hitler or Nazi analogy from the left, to attack Republicans.
	You're solid.
	You're safe.
	The Washington Post will even retweet you.
	But if you are a pro-Israeli, pro-Jewish American conservative, and you use any analogy referencing the Third Reich or Hitler, oh, well, that's just foreboding.
	That can't happen.
	We've just scratched the surface.
	So much to discuss.
	With my good friend, former White House colleague, former Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President, he is Tom Rose, and this is the Salem Radio Network.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't you dare touch that dial.
	I just love Comrex.
	It's like Tom's here, isn't it?
	It is pretty cool.
	It's really cool.
	And I have, of course, absolutely no clue how the thing works.
	You don't need to.
	All right, you're still live on Rumble, just FYI.
	Sure.
	How's the family?
	Everybody's good.
	I have a kid that got home from college, our youngest, on Friday, dumped his laundry off, was going to eat, and then we vanished, and we hardly have seen him since.
	How about you guys?
	Good, good.
	Katie's traveling, doing a lot of traveling for Heritage.
	Our kids are sadly in California, which is very, very far away.
	Did Stanford reopen this second semester?
	You've got a son there, right?
	I've got a son there.
	This is what Stanford did.
	This is the bizarro Looney Tunes world we live in.
	So after a year, a year of sitting at home, he gets to go back to Stanford, OK, for video lectures, for video lectures, OK?
	And the first time he showed me this, I thought it was a joke.
	They've color-coded the whole campus.
	Do you remember how Berlin was during under the Cold War?
	Right?
	So you've got the French sector, the British sector.
	They've color-coded the sectors of the campus.
	And if you don't have the right color of lanyard on your ID, you are not allowed into the other sectors.
	I mean, it is turning liberal buddies of his into the biggest libertarian conservatives you've ever... You'll love this.
	They created a system.
	This is where some Nazi analogies may be justified.
	They created a system, a website, where students could report other students if they saw them too close to one another, like holding hands or kissing, okay?
	Unless they're same-sex couples.
	Well, of course, then they get a gold star on their report card.
	The most liberal kid on my son's team, when he saw this, he said, okay, give me a hundred names.
	Just make them up, like Dimitri, like Boris.
	I'm going to crash the website with reports.
	I mean, this is the beauty of COVID.
	They overreach and the people who are apolitical or even left-wing suddenly realize there's something wrong in Denmark.
	Know what I mean?
	Right.
	I mean, this is, we can talk a lot about and we focused a lot about in the White House, you particularly, on the surveillance state of China and that's what we're becoming.
	Yeah.
	Probably not as effective or efficient because we're Americans.
	No, but when you're creating congressional commissions with subpoena power to hunt down people wearing red hats, it's starting to get scary, Tom.
	Yeah, it is.
	It is, it is.
	It's unbelievable, it really is, and how quickly, what was that, I can't remember who it was, it might have been P.T.
	Barnum, someone asked, I think it was P.T.
	Barnum at one point during his bankruptcies, how did you, explain how you went broke, and he said, or how you, how your empire collapsed, and he said, well slowly at first, and then very quickly.
	Yeah, right, exactly.
	That's why Gina Carano's Instagram post was so true.
	All right, stand by 30 seconds.
	All right, stand by 30 stand by 30 seconds.
	All right, stand by 30 seconds. stand by 30 seconds.
	I feel like the old band is getting back together when you've got good buddies who were in the trenches, in the arena with you, and now they can be your guests on your national show.
	That's what we're doing right now.
	Former Deputy National Security Advisor for the Vice President of the United States Tom Rose with us.
	Follow him on Twitter at TomRoseINDY.
	Tom, I have to talk about two issues in this segment.
	The rising anti-Semitism in America.
	As an Orthodox Jew, your take on it.
	But first, what's happened in the last three weeks in the Middle East?
	Some people are talking about a conscious effort to dismantle everything the Trump administration, Jared, Jason, David Friedman accomplished with the Abraham Accords.
	Is that what we're witnessing, Tom?
	Well, I think we see that all around.
	I think that's kind of the Rorschach test for the entire administration.
	We've seen it in the last 36 hours vis-a-vis the origins of the Wuhan virus.
	Every act of this administration is an attempt post-facto to crush Donald Trump.
	This is what the media is doing, the establishment doing, that's what matters.
	However, And whenever and in whatever circumstance they can, whatever Trump favored, they oppose.
	Whatever he opposed, they favor.
	I mean, remember hydroxychloroquine?
	Yeah.
	How does a medicine, how does a pill become political?
	A chemical compound that's 75 years old, it's been used all over the world, most effectively in some circumstance, probably not in others.
	Donald Trump comes out and makes a comment uh... that uh... he thinks there could be promise in it then immediately from that incident on that medicine it's it's pros or cons notwithstanding had to be destroyed and anyone who advocate it we will be discussing exactly that issue with uh...
	Fox News medical expert Nicole Sapphire in the last hour.
	You've got to hear what she has to say about hydroxychloroquine and the Wuhan lab cover-up.
	We're talking to Tom Rose, my former colleague from the White House, a great American.
	Tom, Biden's Jewish outreach advisor tweeted That Jews in America should hide their kippers, should take off the thing that identifies them as Jewish and put the yarmulke in their pocket.
	Is that what we've come to?
	Is that what America stands for, Tom?
	That's fighting anti-Semitism Joe Biden style.
	And if I can infringe upon a confidential and private text exchange I had with the famous Dr. Sebastian Yorke.
	I got a note from him last night, folks.
	With the link to that story.
	And I believe your direct words were, where the yarmulke, carry a glock.
	Something like that.
	It's terrible and pathetic and all too predictable.
	What would have happened in 1948 if that was the attitude of the Jews who'd survived the Shoah and the Holocaust, Tom?
	There wouldn't be a state of Israel.
	I can turn it around.
	What would have happened in 1938 Dr. G, if in Europe there was a Second Amendment...
	Yeah, indeed.
	It cannot be said any other way.
	America does, Tom, have an anti-Semitism problem.
	But today, its institutional heart is in the Democrat Party.
	And let me ask you, I'm not Jewish.
	You have the authenticity to answer this question.
	As far as I'm concerned, Donald Trump was the most philo-semitic president since 1948 and the re-establishment of Israel.
	Is that a hyperbole?
	I don't even think that's something that can be argued about.
	He never, in 4,000 years of Jewish history, with the possible exception of Cyrus the Great, the Persian emperor in the 6th century BC, who ended the first exile by allowing
	Jews to return to the promised land to to Israel after the Syrian destruction of the first Jewish temple in 586 BC no single man did more to protect defend and promote the Jewish state than President Donald Trump and I think Follow him, Tom Rose, I-N-D-Y.
	Hope to see you.
	I know you don't want to come here, but hope to see you in the swamp sometime in my studio, because that's where we need you fighting again.
	If there's a second Trump administration, Tom's the kind of person we needed.
	God bless you, Tom.
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	Good stuff.
	Title for that one?
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	I wrote it down.
	AOC is a first-class Jew-hater.
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	Two and a half minutes.
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	At the hour. - Okay.
	Cyber antics.
	Cyber?
	Cyber antics.
	Not sure if that should sound intimidating or playful.
	Sounds like an instructional video from the 1980s. - Cyber antics.
	Feature like a trained typist or something who's forced to learn how to use a computer and man is it wacky.
	Ah, the 80s.
	What do you mean, ah, the 80s?
	Just wish we could bring like so much of the 80s back.
	Just live in them, that's what I do.
	I, of course, am impartial to the 90s, but that's just me.
	I like the 20s.
	The 20s are going to end very well.
	The 2000s.
	I'm telling you, this stuff's already burning out.
	What stuff's burning out?
	All their nonsense.
	I'm telling you.
	I don't know, man.
	I don't know.
	It's not going to be over tomorrow, but it's not.
	Come in with Candice.
	Cut three.
	Cut three, Candice.
	Yep.
	We need another Roaring Twenties, that's for sure.
	By the way, CNN was so creative with the Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	I thought she really said something bad, but what they said every time they brought it up, she said something so anti-Semitic we're not even going to play the comments to repeat yet.
	And I heard them do it twice different, because they knew it was not, they're so slick.
	That's their one talent, they have.
	I said this to Kurt, you know, the other day, like they, you know, Republicans turning on MTG over what she said, like the same Republicans who supported Gina Carano, but then they turn on MTG when she said kind of the same thing.
	I'm just like-- - 10 seconds, stand by. - We have to use stronger terms here.
	We need to tell the truth.
	The left right now is segregationist.
	We need to start saying that over and over again.
	They are the party of segregation.
	That is what they are calling for.
	They are obsessed with race.
	They want your children to know that they are either oppressed or they are privileged.
	And by the way, talk about people to appeal to.
	We live in a country that is largely biracial.
	Could you imagine what it is like for me who has a biracial child who is being told that your child is going to be literally taught in the school system that they are either half oppressed or half privileged.
	There's no space for these people.
	Candace Owens, somebody called in, had to drop off sadly, who said Donald Trump has to run for president for 2024 with Candace Owens as the veep.
	That's interesting.
	Is she old enough?
	I don't know if she's old enough.
	And by the way, as you just heard, she's just had a baby.
	I don't know if that's what we want to do to a young mother, but it's an interesting concept.
	And she's so right.
	Whether it's talking about the Democrats and their new political plantations.
	They used to have real plantations.
	Now they have political ones.
	Or weather.
	What?
	That's what I thought.
	She's not old enough, right?
	She's not old enough.
	Yeah, she's 32.
	35 is the age.
	Right.
	She's got three more years.
	So maybe next time.
	Maybe.
	But it's an interesting concept.
	Who?
	And please, I get the Ron DeSantis thing.
	I get it.
	But I want to hear the other.
	The other.
	Proposals for Vice President for Donald Trump for a second term.
	Whether it's talking about the political plantation the Democrats have created or whether it's the segregated nation that they're already creating in colleges and schools.
	She's a truth teller.
	Truth teller extraordinaire.
	Unlike What's Cena's name?
	Is it John?
	What was he?
	Was he a wrestler?
	Bit of a meathead.
	Did some great charity work.
	I've seen some of the videos about what John Cena did in charity work, which is commendable.
	And then he was in movies.
	I think he's in the new Fast and Furious.
	But then he said something about Taiwan.
	And he called it a country.
	Which it is, John Cena, it is a country.
	But then somebody reached out from Beijing, took John Cena's shriveled testicles and squeezed them very hard.
	And what did he do?
	He did this.
	Play cut.
	He recorded a video of himself He didn't look very good.
	He looked like something out of Team America.
	He looked like a marionette.
	The eyebrows, dude.
	I mean, seriously, do something with the eyebrows.
	Where for minutes on end, in Chinese, I guess it's not Cantonese, he apologized.
	He apologized.
	Who to?
	Oh, Communist China.
	What did he apologize for?
	For calling Taiwan a country because China wants to gobble up Taiwan.
	John, I know you follow me on Twitter.
	You know, when I found that out yesterday, I, you know, was... I was flattered, until I realized... You're a coward.
	You're a panderer.
	Because you're in Hollywood's movies, when China pulled Hollywood's string, they grabbed you by the shortened curlies, and you complied.
	You are a coward, John Cena.
	Impress us.
	Record another video.
	In English.
	For Taiwan.
	Where you say, I was wrong.
	I believe in freedom.
	And I don't believe in communism.
	Or will you stay a coward?
	So disappointing.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Jared, California, line 2.
	Welcome to America First, Jared.
	Hi, how are you doing today?
	Thanks for taking my call.
	I'm sure Tom Rosey sounds like a great guy, and I'm Jewish, by the way, as well, and I just took issue with him and other Republicans coming down on Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	I just don't get it, you know?
	But he didn't come down on her.
	He didn't come down on her.
	He said it was wrong.
	He said it was dumb, though.
	He said it was dumb.
	I think it's really not that crazy.
	Yeah, you said it was dumb, you know, and I don't think, I think it's really not that crazy.
	You know, it is similar. - There's an issue of degrees, right?
	When you're talking about six million people murdered and being burnt in crematoria in death camps, you know, I love MTG and she's a fighter, but there probably are better analogies.
	And you know what really is a good analogy?
	What Gina Carano did when she had that post, Jared, on Instagram, where she had that photograph of that German woman chasing that other German Jewish resident who had been stripped almost naked.
	And she said, it doesn't start with the death camps.
	It starts with one individual, one group dehumanizing the other individual, the other She was cancelled.
	She lost her job.
	Disney fired her.
	She's fine now.
	She's back.
	Daily Wire's hired her.
	But that analogy, which some conservatives even then said was clumsy, was in fact A perfect analogy.
	They are dehumanizing conservatives in America and that would have been maybe.
	I'm not going to tell MTG what to say.
	She's got to represent her district in Georgia.
	The point here is the double standards of the left, Jared, who have been talking about Hitler analogies since the cows come home and also The rhinos!
	The rhinos, Jared!
	That's maybe our biggest problem.
	Or, of course, what I'm saying is she's not talking about six million dollars, she's talking about wearing the yellow star, which is similar to ostracizing people.
	She's not going any further than that.
	I hope people are intelligent enough to get the nuance of that.
	You know, obviously, it's totally your... Yeah, good question.
	You know, she's down there fighting on the floor of the House every day for Republicans, blowing down the Democrat agenda.
	No one's giving her any support.
	And I'm just saying, she's an amazing woman.
	She's great.
	And very quickly, thank you Jared, stay on the line.
	But first, what did CNN do?
	Mr. G, you said they were super sneaky when they covered, or rather didn't cover, MTG.
	How did they cover it?
	Yeah, they said that she said something that was so bad, so anti-Semitic that they were not going to replay it.
	It was so bad, we're not going to show it because it wasn't bad.
	Yeah, that's CNN, which has lost.
	70% of their viewership.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give Jared a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	Yeah, our bigger problem isn't the left, because the left are crazy.
	We know that.
	It's the cowards on the right.
	And it's also the apologists for dictators like John Cena.
	Grow a pair.
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	Rick Grinnell.
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	It's just one of those days.
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	Chuck Todd.
	Wait for the disclaimer.
	Portions of today's program are brought to you by Prison Fellowship. - Texas now becomes one of at least 20 states that will have a law on the books that it lets you carry a handgun without a permit.
	It's a move conservative backers are hailing as historic.
	And it sort of comes in line to this idea that those on the right have been trying to sell that the Second Amendment is sometimes a right that cannot at all be mitigated at all or somehow put any sort of check on it.
	Do you mean like, shall not be infringed?
	I think, I think I've heard that phrase.
	Oh yeah, it's in our Constitution.
	It's in the Bill of Rights, you cretin Chuck Todd!
	Conservatives don't have to sell the concept of a right that can't be mitigated, because it says so in the Second Amendment.
	The right To bear arms shall not be infringed.
	Let's post that video.
	He's such a moron.
	Let's have fun with Chuck Todd.
	And what is it with his haircut?
	Seriously.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Juan in Texas, line one.
	He's in our constitution.
	Thank you, doctor, for taking my call.
	Sure.
	Can you hear me?
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	I appreciate you taking my call.
	And I wanted to thank you for your book, The War for America's Soul.
	And give you my two cents on how it can be won.
	Quickly!
	We've got other callers.
	Quickly!
	Through Christian unity.
	Okay.
	Because of just two quick scripture verses short.
	No, we're not doing scripture verses on the radio.
	Everybody's got a Bible, and they've read it, but I agree.
	Christians have to come together, and they have to stop the oppressors.
	Thank you Juan, and thank you for your quiet, kind comments on the war for America's soul.
	You can get your own copy at sebgawker.com.
	Let's go to Bob in Georgia, line four.
	Welcome, Bob.
	Hey, Dr. G. Thanks for taking my call.
	Sure.
	Yeah, so Christy Noem.
	Yeah, what about her?
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
	Come on!
	Come on!
	She's a fake conservative.
	Do you see what she did when it came to transgender a month ago?
	Oh, no, no, no.
	I'm not buying the women vote with a fake conservative who won't protect our girls.
	You may not, but I'm going to tell you, under Trump she's not going to have any choice but to be what she needs to be.
	Honestly, I think she needs a choice.
	No, we don't compromise.
	We don't have fake conservatives at the top of the ticket right under Donald Trump.
	What kind of a message is that sent to real conservatives that a woman who would throw young women under the bus at high school, college, athletic events should be the vice president?
	Are you kidding me?
	Why should we do that, Bob?
	She's a fake!
	She betrayed the young women of America!
	She's not real!
	If she apologizes...
	If she does a mea culpa, maybe.
	But right now, she proved herself for what she is.
	She's a fake, and a fraud, and a coward.
	Keep it coming!
	I'm Sebastian Gorka this is America First on the Salem Radio Network coming to you from the ReliefFactor.com studios just outside the insalubrious swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	My good friend and colleague Trish Regan is known as one of the bravest conservative voices in this country Now I'm proud to tell you about her exciting new podcast, American Consequences.
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	Learn more at AmericanConsequences.com. AmericanConsequences.com.
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	Right.
	Why do you know, right?
	Right.
	Right.
	C.
	So be sure if any of the, if any of the reports are not inconvenienced by a very recent report or by the other of our recently married in så Afghanistan, or by theumberland.
	Yes.
	advocacy.
	Yeah, pro-gun advocacy.
	He's the guy who took the picture of himself in the wreckage of, uh... Waco.
	That was him!
	Waco, right?
	That actually was him?
	I thought that was just posted as, like, uh... Maybe that was just a dumb... To imply, like, he had a role in Waco.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I thought he said he was 20 years.
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's the idea.
	I was correct.
	Did that tell you my experience of ATF?
	AFT, you mean?
	AFT.
	AFT, sorry.
	What happened with AFT?
	So I went to a high-speed handgun course at SIG in the 90s.
	And it was just a handful of us, maybe six or seven of us taking the course.
	It was like a three, four day course.
	There were two ATF agents.
	And I swear.
	I mean, Laurel and Hardy had nothing on them.
	The rest of us were afraid to be on the range when they had loaded weapons.
	I mean, we were like constantly watching where they're pointing the gun.
	Did they know that they'd loaded it?
	I mean, it was...
	It was scary.
	That's wild.
	Was it the things they said, or just the behavior they displayed?
	Well, they were cretins, but they had no conceptualization of weapons.
	They'd sweep you with the muzzle.
	Maybe they work in the alcohol portion.
	Yeah, right.
	Maybe.
	It was scary.
	Oh, man.
	That is truly something.
	I like the idea of working for the ATF, but just in tobacco.
	Like, what do you do?
	Oh, I'm in tobacco.
	No, I'm in explosives.
	Very specific.
	Alcohol, tobacco, firearms.
	Yeah.
	Today's also the anniversary of Solzhenitsyn going back to Russia.
	Oh my gosh.
	Can you check if there's audio of his Harvard address?
	There is.
	There is?
	I think.
	It's tough to... I know it's rough.
	Is he talking in Russian?
	I think it's English, but the recording is bad.
	If I'm not mistaken.
	I can look it up.
	You could just record a version of it though.
	Oh, that'd be interesting.
	World Split Apart, that was in 78, maybe not.
	Yeah, no.
	Uh, or maybe, is this a recording or is this somebody just reading it?
	What year was it?
	- How is it? - 78. - Hmm.
	78.
	Yeah, somebody just reading it.
	One minute.
	Oh goodness, Geraldo's on the five right now.
	Imagine if he's- GERALDO!
	Imagine if he was Vaughn Williams' replacement.
	Oh, I bet they'll do that.
	I bet they'll put him on instead of Williams.
	He and Gutfeld would have some fun.
	Who about Jesse?
	Jesse doesn't get angry though, does he?
	Like, Gunfeld can get kinda mad sometimes.
	Like, very rarely.
	I've seen Jesse mad.
	Oh, man.
	Five is just not what it used to be.
	I miss that original lineup way back when.
	Not with that fat guy.
	I liked him better than Juan Williams.
	Beckle was a cretin.
	Just a fat whale.
	With the rest, you had Bowling, you had Kimberly.
	Alright, we're coming in.
	Oh, Bowling and Kimberley, yeah, that's true.
	Thank you.
	This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I I don't know.
	Am I ADD?
	I'm not ADD, am I?
	I have all these great things I want to say, and I completely forget I want to say them.
	Am I getting Biden-esque in my old age?
	I wanted to tell you the coolest part of my trip to Ariz... No.
	There were so many.
	Here's one of them.
	Here's two.
	Here's three of them.
	Ah, full weapon.
	No.
	No, stop it.
	No Monty Python.
	Stop.
	Behave.
	I traveled super light.
	First time in my life, didn't even wear a suit.
	But I felt guilty.
	By the time I got there, I was a few hours before the event, so I said, I just can't go in there too cash.
	I gotta buy a blazer.
	So I went to the mall, and I looked for a blazer.
	Found one.
	I tried, I don't know.
	It doesn't, they're never long enough.
	Got a blazer, and as I'm paying for the blazer, the chief of the menswear department just sidles up over to me.
	Claude and Claude says, um, uh, are you, are you?
	Uh, yeah, I said, yeah, Tom Cruise.
	Um, and he's, he said, I'm a big fan.
	Can I show you something?
	Whipped out his phone and showed me a photograph of his new dog.
	Cute as can be, a little button of a golden retriever.
	And he said, he's called Trump.
	I just, so good, but it gets better.
	Big fan, said very kind things about the show, about Dan Bongino as well.
	And I've got my blazer.
	I'm walking out of the, literally, I had just stepped out of the mall to the pedestrian crossing.
	I'm ordering an Uber to get back to the hotel so I can get back to the event.
	And I stop a little bit way off the pedestrian crossing so people don't think I want to cross while I'm waiting.
	And this big rig comes across the corner, just about to deliver, I don't know what.
	Big, big FedEx rig.
	And it pulls up as if it's wanting me to cross the street, to cross the crossing.
	And I'm just, I'm walking, and I say, And the driver leans over the cab of the rig, because he's on the wrong side, cranks down the window, and he says, I'm a big fan!
	As his massive big rig is sitting there in the middle of the plaza, the shopping mall.
	And I say, what's your name?
	Oh, should I tell it?
	I better not.
	I don't want to.
	I'm not going to say his name.
	The FedEx driver, you know who you are.
	And thank you for reaching out yesterday.
	Best of all, we had an amazing night.
	Andy Biggs, Congressman Andy Biggs, Mike Gallagher, Seth Reeves from the local station 960 The Answer, 960 The Patriot in Phoenix.
	We have an amazing, it just clicks.
	If something's working, it all clicks.
	And afterwards, I do the autographs of the books, the selfies.
	First guy walks up to me.
	He is straight out of Central Casting.
	And I know it's not right to talk about yourself, but this made, probably made more than my month.
	Total SF guy.
	Big beard.
	Like he just walked out of JSOC in Bragg.
	He walks up to me and says, Dr. Gorka, we've never met.
	I just retired from 10th Group Special Forces.
	And I wanted to say that wherever I walked in Bragg, with the guys from the Green Berets, and when I served in Afghanistan, they still talk about what you taught them before you went into the administration at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center in school.
	I'm not saying it because it's me.
	I want to say thank you, Tim.
	Just that one piece of feedback from an operator who just got his DD214 meant a great, great deal for me.
	It's the feedback that helps us continue.
	Thank you for doing what you did and for all of the members of the Brotherhood who are still at Bragg protecting this nation.
	Additionally, in the face of what Biden and that pandering clown of a Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, is trying to do to our brave men and women in the armed services.
	Okay, back to the news.
	Most important story of the day, which had been reported by Breitbart way back when.
	Now I guess they've uncovered it or noticed it in other sources.
	This is from Ryan Saavedra.
	The New York Post has also confirmed it.
	Please, if you only take one thing away from today's show, let it be this.
	New reports surfaced this week.
	That alleged records from a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden show that Joe Biden met with the business associates of his son while Biden was still the vice president in the Biden administration.
	Joe has denied this.
	Oh, I never met.
	I had no idea.
	I had no comprehension of what my son was doing in Ukraine.
	Well, here we have the proof that he's lying.
	Joe Biden met his son's business associates from Ukraine, Russia and Kazakhstan at a dinner in Washington, D.C.
	Don't you have business associates in Kazakhstan?
	I have so many business associates in Kazakhstan.
	On April the 16th, 2015!
	Yeah, 2015.
	The next day, this is a quote from the New York Post, the only real newspaper in America today, national paper, is the New York Post.
	The next day, Hunter received an email from Vadim Pozharsky, An executive from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma to thank him for introducing him to his father, the vice president.
	Dear Hunter!
	Should I do this in a Ukrainian accent?
	Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spend some time together.
	In reality, it's an honor and a pleasure.
	At the time that Pozharsky wrote this email to Hunter Biden, when his father was vice president, Burisema was paying Hunter Biden $83,000 a month.
	$83,000 a month.
	A month to sit on its board.
	Note that away.
	Amen.
	MTG's right.
	We need to impeach Joe Biden.
	Even if it's just symbolic, he needs to be impeached.
	Also important is the individual that has been nominated by Beijing Biden to become the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
	This individual is being interviewed In his nomination hearings on Capitol Hill, David Chipman, an anti-gun former ATF officer, had this to say about his plans should he be confirmed.
	Video cut for play cuts.
	With respect to the AR-15, I support a ban as has been presented in a Senate bill and supported by the President.
	The AR-15 is a gun I was issued on ATF's SWAT team and it's a particularly lethal weapon and regulating it as other particularly lethal weapons I have advocated for There you go.
	The AR-15 will be banned if he becomes the director of ATF because it's lethal.
	By the way, David Chipman, more people are killed in America every year by hammers.
	Hammers!
	And knives!
	Than by AR-15s.
	Phil in Philly, line three.
	Welcome to America First.
	Dr. G?
	Yes?
	You can hear me?
	Yes, but I've only got a minute and a half.
	You've got to be quick.
	OK.
	All right.
	I just want to know why you're not embracing wholeheartedly the critical race theory that's being taught to our force fed to our children in this country.
	Because you should do a separate segment, critical communism reality.
	And just let people know exactly what they're getting into.
	Because if they take away our Second Amendment, and they start grabbing our guns, those Russians will be here.
	Because they can't get past a 300 million man army.
	But that BLM and all the other people, the Dems, they got a backdoor.
	They can say, it was only a theory.
	We're not upset with you guys.
	That's what they think is going to happen.
	But the Russians aren't going to take note.
	They're going to kick butt and take note names.
	And the Chinese are going to... I mean, it's just a mess.
	Yeah, I'm not worried.
	Phil, I'm not worried about the Chinese or the Russians invading.
	The Russians can't even fight their way out of a paper bag when it comes to fighting in Chechnya or elsewhere.
	This is a country that has a GDP smaller than California.
	The bigger problem is communists who are already here, socialists who are already here, like AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Bernie Sanders.
	But your point is well taken.
	So, Phil, stay tuned, my man.
	Tomorrow, the Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina Who's declared war on critical race theory will be with us, Mark Robinson, and I'm dedicating the whole hour of my Newsmax TV show to the threat of socialism in America this Sunday, 7 p.m.
	Eastern, Newsmax, re-air at 10 p.m.
	Nice timing, my friend.
	All right, mic's on.
	Until we get Mr. Mayfield on the line.
	Alright, let's do, uh... Promo?
	The kid.
	For, uh... Chantel?
	Is that Chantel?
	Oh, Savannah?
	Savannah.
	Isn't that the counselor?
	Savannah is the kid.
	Okay, good.
	Susanna is the counselor.
	Okay, Savannah.
	Savannah.
	We'll do Savannah.
	I'll tee it up.
	Alright, uh... What?
	Who was good today that you want to take a clip out of for John?
	For the Newsmax?
	Oh, um... Max?
	My monologue blew David away.
	He said he got chills from my monologue.
	Can we do that?
	Yeah, yeah, definitely.
	Yeah.
	I was wondering about Joe Walsh.
	Oh, that's too funny.
	What did Joe Walsh do this time?
	He says he was cancelled.
	He was cancelled by a big Trump CEO.
	I didn't even know he had a new job.
	A new radio show.
	Can you give me a bio for our guest?
	Yeah, let me get something off his website.
	All right,
	promo. promo. All right. All right. All right. All right. promo. promo. All right. All right. All right. All right.
	All right.
	All right.
	All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.
	All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	ship.
	Has Friday started early?
	It feels like it.
	Huey Lewis and the news always gets me in the mood.
	Can't wait for Friday to really begin because we got a cracker of a show.
	I just read the, what do we call it?
	Promo?
	The promo.
	Guess who's going to be on the show tomorrow?
	Of course, it's Friday.
	It's national security.
	It's economics.
	We're going to talk to Jim Carrafano, the wonderful Trish Regan, but we're going to have the Baron Boris Epstein.
	We're going to have Jim Jordan.
	Yes, the Jim Jordan.
	We're going to have John Patton of the Gun Collective to talk Second Amendment.
	And the man I was in Arizona with just a few days ago.
	Really got to like this guy.
	Congressman Andy Biggs.
	What?
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	So, I told you I regaled you with tales of a very, very enjoyable event at the Trump National Golf Club recently.
	Where my wife and I, she was the one really, who was the star of the night, addressed the assembled members of the Loudoun County Republicans.
	It was an amazing night.
	And somebody I got to know as a result, who is a brave man, because he's running as a new American Party Republican for New Jersey's 12th District, is Darius Mayfield.
	Darius, welcome to America First.
	Thank you so much, Dr. Mirka, and I'm honored to be here with you today.
	Thank you so much for having me on.
	So first things first, we had a wonderful chat at the Trump golf course.
	What is the new American Party Republican candidate?
	What does that mean from your bio header?
	Absolutely, and I will just say this.
	I know you said I have courage for doing what I'm doing right now, but I will say this.
	I like to tell everybody, what I'm doing really doesn't take courage.
	I was born into the freest generation that this country has ever had, and I'm just being me, doing what I want to do, doing what I think is right.
	I don't think about it as being courageous at all.
	I'm just being me, and I encourage everybody to continue to do the same things themselves.
	As far as the New American Party, that was a party that I started.
	It started as a Facebook group right after what happened on January 6th.
	And within one day, my goal was to get 1,000 people.
	And within a couple hours, we had 5,000 people join that group.
	Now, recently, Facebook, about four or five weeks ago, actually disabled that group.
	For whatever reasons, they're unknown.
	We're challenging it now, so we'll see if they put it back up.
	But basically, I modeled that after something of, like, the team.
	party of sorts where I wanted to create a group that could really hold our politicians accountable with me being a Republican and being a strong Trump conservative.
	I wanted to make sure we could hold our conservative and our Republican officials accountable for their actions, for the things that they're doing, because as you've seen over the last year or two or three or four, you know, even some of our Republican officials there haven't really been acting in the manner that we think they should act, haven't even some of our Republican officials there haven't really been acting in the manner that we think they should act, haven't really been acting with the honor and the strength that somebody
	So we wanted to make sure we created a group where people could freely share their thoughts.
	We could have people come together from all sides of the aisle.
	I don't care if you're a conservative, a liberal and independent, you are free to speak your mind within that group and say what was on your mind.
	And we've been sending out newsletters and we plan to start organizing events and things like that soon.
	But right now we are just going through trying to get our page back up because we had actually reached 17,000 members in that group and that's when For some reason Facebook decided to disable us for reasons that are really unknown to me because they said an administrator did something on the page but me and my fiancé Saudi are the only administrators and we weren't the ones that got dinged so we're going through that process now and God willing they'll put us back up.
	In the meantime, follow this man.
	If you're in New Jersey, support him.
	It's Twitter, MrMayfieldUSA.
	That's MrMayfieldUSA and DariusMayfieldForAmerica.com.
	You have to help me out with one thing, Darius.
	I'm a little confused, and I don't know if you can explain this to me.
	Your very first sentence on this show, and you're now in front of three million listeners and who knows how many viewers on Rumble and Facebook and elsewhere.
	You said you were born in the freest generation anywhere, but I thought Black Lives Matter and Tea from the Democrats say that you are in one of the most racially suppressed and oppressed Generations we've ever seen, and that America is just a nightmare of racial hatred.
	Yeah, well that comes from people that have been watching way too much CNN and MSNBC, and it also comes from people that are being propagated from the very top, from people like the George Soros's of the world and a lot of our democratic leaders and politicians.
	I mean, anybody, whether you're black, white, brown, that can't sit here and understand and verbalize The progress that this country has made is really not serious about actually progressing all of us in this country and that's why the tagline people know me by is not black not white American.
	I also have a podcast called not black not white American podcast and it means exactly what it says at the end of the day that we're all Americans at the end of the day.
	I mean, it's just 200, 250 years ago in this same country, myself, I would have been a slave to, so for me going from would have been a slave back then to being the youngest sales manager ever in a top 25 auto group in this country to also becoming the first black general manager in that same company, which at the time was the third so for me going from would have been a slave back then to being the youngest sales manager ever in a top 25 auto group in this country to also becoming the first black general manager in that Third fastest growing auto group in this country is a very big accomplishment and indicative of how much progress we've actually made in this country.
	And also for me going from somebody that grew up on welfare and Section 8 in the hood and now being on shows like yours and now running for Congress just shows you what's actually capable in this country when you put your mind to it.
	So for those people out there in the Black Lives Matter group especially and things like that, I don't necessarily put all the onus on them because, as I like to say at the end of the day, I think the people of this country, whether you're conservative, whether you're Black Lives Matter, a lot of us all want the same things, and that's life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
	And we also want our kids and our grandkids to have a better opportunity than we did and more opportunity than we did.
	But what happens is these people at the top, especially from our Democratic leaders and these billionaire quote-unquote philanthropists out there, are right now spending Millions and billions of dollars to continue to propagate people and continue to make people feel as though they don't have the opportunities that they actually have in this country.
	No, I gotta cut you off here because I just love what you said.
	Not black, not white, just American.
	Follow this man.
	Support him.
	MrMayfieldUSA on Twitter.
	DariusMayfieldForAmerica.com.
	Candidate for New Jersey's 12th Congressional District.
	God bless you, Darius.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	next, Dr. Nicole Sapphire on the COVID cover-up.
	Thank you.
	Now I'm proud to tell you about her exciting new podcast, American Consequences.
	With the biggest guests in the country, including yours truly, Trish talks about the topics the mainstream refuses to cover.
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	Let's get it straight.
	They work, use them.
	Do they?
	Are you sure Fauci?
	Are you having the same level of certitude with regards to Mars that you had with regards to the lab in Wuhan?
	Oh, Fauci the flip-flopper, he's in trouble again.
	Even Democrats are calling for his potential ouster.
	Well, he does happen to be the highest paid federal bureaucrat in the United States.
	Just $413,000 a year to prevaricate, to flip-flop.
	And just really be undecisive.
	Let's talk to somebody who is the opposite of indecisive.
	She is the board-certified radiologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering, who happens to also be a Fox News contributor, a good friend of America First, and she's got a new book.
	It's called Panic Attack!
	Playing Politics with Science in the Fight Against COVID-19.
	Dr. Nicole Sapphire, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much.
	So, we have so much we could discuss.
	Firstly, there's the general, I think, overemphasis on this word experts, as if medical professionals, by dint of being medical professionals, should be making political decisions and policy decisions when nobody elects them, unlike presidents and unlike people who are actually appointed by presidents to be cabinet members.
	But let's not go that far straight away.
	Dr. Sapphire, talk to us about In your experience, having practiced medicine for years, how egregious, give us a scale, give us a sense of how egregious the politicization of medicine has been in the last, oh, I don't know, 14 months in America?
	Well, Seb, I can tell you there's a reason I had to write the book, because as I was watching everything unfold, and I was watching the way that scientific discovery was being weaponized to fit political narratives, how contrarian opinion was being silenced by big media, and really how difficult it was once the politicians put forth all these restrictions to actually roll them back.
	It's a power struggle, and so I wanted to be transparent with everyone.
	I wanted to make sure that they got the data, got the truth, and I can tell you it is appalling and criminal what has occurred in the last 15 months.
	So for me, you used the word appalling and criminal, and for me...
	One of the most egregious beyond the fact that, for example, President Trump said very early on, you know, it may not be a coincidence that this virus was first detected in the one city where there is a level four virology lab in Communist China.
	We can talk about that.
	And you have a couple of chapters on the lab and the cover up in your book, Panic Attack.
	But for me, As just a humble user of medicine, a consumer, the idea that governors who have no medical training were making decisions as to whether or not a proven medicine such as hydroxychloroquine, which I took when I contracted the COVID, could not be used in their states.
	When did we give governors the power to make such decisions, Doctor?
	Well, that was something that was interesting very on.
	And when I started writing about hydroxychloroquine, I meant for that to only be a couple of paragraphs.
	But when you really dive into and you see the scandal that unfolded and involved, it became an entire chapter in itself.
	Hydroxychloroquine is the prime example of everything that shouldn't have happened.
	You have this old, boring, cheap medication that had been used for decades with known antiviral properties.
	You had early data coming out of China that patients who were taking that medication weren't having severe COVID-19 and being hospitalized.
	Of course the rest of the world is going to try it.
	We had a new virus that was circulating everywhere.
	Hospitals were overflowing.
	We needed to throw the sink at it.
	But because President Trump decided to mention it in one of his White House press briefings, all of a sudden that knee-jerk anti-Trumpism, people wanted to prove him wrong.
	And if you started talking about hydroxychloroquine and even suggesting that it may work, you were deemed a charlatan, like you were peddling snake oil or something like that.
	And ultimately, it turned into this big fraudulent thing where people started using fraudulent data to put forth studies to say it doesn't work.
	This caused some of the most world-renowned journals to have to retract their papers.
	What an embarrassment for the academic community.
	We've only got a few seconds left in this segment.
	She is the author of Panic Attack.
	How horrified are you, Dr. Sapphire, with the behavior of the medical profession in the last year?
	You know, it's been, first of all, I have to say that the people who have continued to work, not just healthcare professionals, but all frontline workers, everyone is doing the best they can.
	It's more the bureaucrats, in my opinion, and the fact that bias has continued to insert themselves in, getting in the way of patients and physicians.
	The administrators were stopping procedures.
	The governors were saying we couldn't prescribe medications.
	That in itself is what is disgusting.
	It truly is when I get colleagues from California telling me they had valid prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine and they have to go to six.
	Six pharmacists before somebody will fill the prescription because of politics and because Donald Trump.
	That's an outrage and I think people died.
	The book, you've got to check it out, Panic Attack.
	Playing politics with science in the fight against COVID-19.
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	You can find out everything you need to know about what happened to America under COVID in her new book, Panic Attack.
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	Let's focus on the story of the day, Dr. Sapphire.
	Why was it until yesterday, contrary to common sense, to state that when the SARS-CoV-2 new variant 19 Erupts in Wuhan, China, in the same city where they have the sole level 4 virology lab for Communist China.
	Why was it verboten to say, well, maybe there's some connection to the outbreak and the lab?
	Why did we have to wait a year to be told, uh-huh, maybe that's right?
	Well I think there's a very easy answer to that and that's because President Trump was the one that suggested there may be a link and again that knee-jerk anti-Trumpism wanted to say that he was a racist and you know calling for xenophobia when the truth is he was just acknowledging that there were several coincidences and strange occurrences
	that occurred around that Wuhan Institute of Virology late October early November 2019 and that lab is about eight miles away from the wet market where SARS-CoV-2 they believe to have come from and you can tell just by looking at their published data that that lab had the most genetically similar virus to that circulating the globe today of SARS-CoV-2 and we know because of their published data that they were working with that virus to increase its virulence and other properties
	And some of those mutations as well are what is in the circulating SARS-CoV-2.
	Now could it all have happened with the natural spillover because you have animals and humans close together?
	Absolutely!
	But you can't deny the coincidences and questions needed to be asked.
	But the problem is, lab leaks happen all the time and not intentionally, mistakes.
	Lab errors all the time.
	China, Russia, the United States, it happens.
	The biggest issue is the potential for the Chinese Communist Party cover-up.
	So I have an entire chapter exploring the origin theories, but then the following chapter talks about all the different ways things were covered up.
	People need to read it.
	People need to understand what that lab does and then all the cover-ups which are now being reheated.
	The Communist Party in China is now redeploying these theories that the American military imported the virus into China and that this is some kind of American plot.
	It's happening again.
	Find out the truth.
	Dr. Sapphire, I'm going to read the book Panic Attack.
	I'm recommending it to everybody because amazing people like Cheryl Akerson have given you endorsements for the book.
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	But I'm going to ask you the only question I care about right now because I was never afraid.
	I said if I catch it, fine.
	I was taking prophylactic hydroxychloroquine for months before I caught it.
	It kept me in bed for three days with a mild head cold, okay?
	That was the worst I experienced.
	My fear is the following, and I want your reaction and your prognosis.
	I'm worried about the next time.
	I'm worried about the next coronavirus, the next whatever it is, and what the governments who have locked us down for a year are going to do then.
	Are you worried?
	I think at this point Americans saw way too much fallout and there's a huge distrust in public health.
	I think at this point they know that these mandatory restrictions are going to have far-reaching consequences of that of the virus itself.
	I think they're going to be a lot more careful to not have such tunnel vision because it's not just about a virus.
	We need a strong physical, mental, and economic health in our nation and it's not just about the virus numbers.
	Do we have any idea, and maybe we'll never be able to get to the bottom of what happened in China, maybe never get to the bottom of This question.
	Do we have any idea how many people died, not as a result of SARS 2 or COVID, but because they didn't get to see an oncologist?
	Because they had another condition that wasn't diagnosed because they couldn't get to the doctors?
	Could it be that the cost of the shutdown was even greater than the price paid by the virus?
	Well, I can tell you that that data is being looked at and collected.
	From my perspective, we know cancer screenings were down.
	There are more delayed cancers being diagnosed.
	We have people who didn't go to the hospital for their heart attacks, for their ruptured brain aneurysms, because there are more fate of COVID than a heart attack or even cancer.
	That's going to have devastating consequences.
	Do you have any expectation?
	Do we have any indices at the moment that how grave that cost could have been to America?
	I mean, I can't put a number on it.
	I can tell you that SARS-CoV-2 is a tricky virus, and it is certainly not something to be taken lightly.
	However, the lockdowns and many of the prolonged restrictions that came even after the emergency has now been over are going to have far-reaching consequences.
	And it's just not going to be a metric of lives lost.
	It's going to be far more reaching than that.
	Lack of education, poor socialization skills, and just the anarchy that you're seeing in various parts of the country right now.
	Even the CDC's own figures that as a result of the lockdown last summer, a quarter, 25% of American adolescents contemplated suicide.
	Well, thank you to you.
	And thank you for what you do in your new book, Panic Attack.
	A woman who's so dedicated to getting the truth out.
	I think the last time she was on the show, she Skyped us on her laptop from the ambulance bay because she was too busy fighting the good fight.
	God bless you, Nicole.
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	It's true, we will likely never fully know the extent of the damage done, not just to our nation, but to all the nations in the world that believe the garbage models that joke of a An expert from the UK, Neil Ferguson, who predicted more than two million dead in America alone.
	How those predictions, in a already risk-averse culture of non-leaders, non-statesmen, Resulted in the shutdowns, the lockdowns, the idea that the immune system mustn't be challenged, children have to stay home, schools have to be closed, and of course, the loss of, in America alone, 40 million jobs.
	How you even measure the psychological damage.
	What you do to a whole generation of children who had a year of not doing one of the most important things a child can do.
	Which is play.
	Play with their fellow children.
	To register the expression of their fellow man.
	And to react, to socialize, to smile, to cry, to laugh.
	We have to draw the correct conclusions.
	And it's tough.
	Because the next health crisis may be a real one.
	Covid killed 0.4, less than 0.4 of those who contracted it.
	Who are almost always in a very specific category.
	The aged, the vulnerable, the infirm, those with pre-existing underlying conditions.
	Not the children, not the healthy individuals, not those with functioning immune systems.
	So the next time something comes along that could be truly devastating for even healthy people, we're going to be suspicious.
	But rightly so, because never again, never again must we allow ourselves to listen to frauds, to spineless, gutless wonders like Anthony Fauci who just want to exert
	Their bureaucratic pressure and their desire for tyrannical overlordship over their fellow Americans.
	So next time, let's remember That we are primarily responsible for our safety.
	And that common sense must always guide us.
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	Hold the line.
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