So you grew up as a city girl, med school construction background, and you decided, screw it, I don't like any of this.
I want to be a turkey farmer.
So when you were a kid, you were thinking white picket fences.
Yep.
Gonna marry the doctor, you know, everything's gonna be pretty, roses, you know.
And what I realized that later down the line, dad got prostate cancer, mom came down with lung cancer, and what I started realizing is something's wrong with their food system.
I said, I gotta fix this.
I told her, you're not gonna eat meats, eggs from the grocery store.
She's like, what are you gonna do?
I said, I'm gonna figure out how to raise this for the family.
We started out with eggs.
So we had layer chickens, and then we went to meat chickens.
And then we went to, I was buying other meats from local farms that I thought was sustainable, pastured outside.
And I took a turn from there and realized one year the turkeys weren't quite tasting like what I remember.
We bought that turkey year after year after year and realized that we're not getting the same turkeys.
You tasted when your turkeys were going into confinement.
Yes, you can tell that right away.
As soon as you're eating the turkey, if you know what that food is supposed to taste like, you can taste an all-natural, gets hit all the keywords, all natural turkey from a turkey that has lived outside.
Because they're getting bugs, they're getting weeds, they're getting, you know, grasses and stuff like that.
Variety of food.
Because that term's kind of been bastardized, organic.
Exactly.
And free range.
But you do the initial meaning of the word, which is they can move all over the place.
Correct.
Correct.
Can we go see them?
Yes, certainly.
You got two turkey zones here.
Yes.
Two different ages.
These are the younger turkeys.
So these turkeys will be 12 to 16, 18 pounds.
Why do you separate the two ages?
Oh, because they're coming in differently.
They will end up killing each other.
Oh, really?
Yeah, well, they don't like strangers.
If a bird flew in here, they'll come up.
So they're aggressive guys?
They are pretty...
When they're together, they can be pretty big carnivores.
Really?
Yeah, so if they decide they don't like you, you know, it could be one out of this flock.
They will end up, like, pecking him to death.
Literally.
I mean, it's pretty vicious.
Have they ever attacked you?
No, no, because I'm mommy hen.
What are you going to do?
You tough?
You tough guy?
You want to get in, talk to him?
Yeah.
All right.
So what I do is.
Oh, it's not electric?
No, I turned it off.
Oh, good.
I didn't feel like he had.
I could have left it on as a joke.
Who's tough now?
Who's the tough guy now?
Talking a big game when there's a fence there.
I'm here.
I'm right here, tough guy.
Oh, now we see your true colour.
You're not you out here on your own.
Now I'm getting a little scared.
This is kind of getting Alfred Hitchcocky.
I'm bluffing.
Fine, you got me.
I'm bluffing.
If you attacked me now, I'd probably scream.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
They look delicious.
They do.
There you go, Gavin.
Just make a nice line of this.
You guys want to do a line?
Yeah, it's not what you think, Gavin.
It's actually corn.
You guys will notice after you do a line, you get real chatty.
We're feeding you so we can eat you.
But we don't tell them that.
It'll hurt their feelings.
Don't you think it's strange that you get free food?
You don't think there's going to be a catch?
There is a catch.
Your food.
We're going to eat you.
It's a beautiful tradition.
It's called Thanksgiving and the whole family's there.
It's sort of like this, but much more civilized because we're better than you.
Anyway, enjoy it while it lasts.
How is the economics of all this?
Like, how much does it cost you per turkey to raise?
You're looking at about $25 in fee, especially on the bigger ones.
And the processing is another $20 plus dollars.
So that's $50 a turkey.
How much can you sell them for?
They're $4.75 a pound.
So $50 to keep a turkey.
You can't sell it for $50, though.
No.
No.
So that's a loss.
So the smaller birds, if you've got a 12-pound bird, you're most likely breaking close to even.
But I have the smaller birds because my customer base, some want small turkeys and some want big turkeys.
You're making your profit selling the bigger turkeys.
I grew up in Canada and I was surprised when I moved here in the 90s how important Thanksgiving is to Americans.
It's like the whole country shuts down that entire week.
Nothing's open.
They really, it's almost bigger than Christmas in a way.
Yes.
Well, it's the biggest travel day, right?
Yeah.
So Thanksgiving is the biggest travel day, not Christmas.
Do you kind of dread it as it comes?
Because this is showtime for you.
It is showtime.
A lot of work, a lot of preparation.
You've got trucks, you've got manpower, you've got trailers, you've got boxes, you've got sorting, you've got refrigeration, and you hope it all comes together.
When does busy season begin for you?
Now.
Huh?
Yeah, it's game on.
Can we go see the other birds?
The little ones?
Settle down.
We're going to see the turkeys.
Nothing to do with you.
That's Nobby.
He was a rescue goose.
Coolant, Nobby.
Come on, turkeys.
Come on, turkeys.
Come on, turkeys.
So these birds will push 18 to 20 pounds, 24 pounds at the highest.
Most of these are hen turkeys, so what you're seeing.
I didn't realize, I always thought turkeys is five years old or something, but you get them as babies, what are they called?
Plutes?
Pults.
Pults.
In the spring, and then you sell them by Thanksgiving.
Correct.
They come in and get a whole new turkey farm every year.
Correct.
Yep, everything gets eaten down.
The earth has chance to rest, rejuvenate.
The manure composts, and the spring it comes up green again.
I mean, even vegetarians, they probably go, you did have a pretty good year.
You got to hang out with your friends and eat food.
And have one bad moment.
One bad moment.
One bad moment.
Do you kill them here?
No.
I take them to a USDA processor, and the USDA processor basically kills them.
They bag them and weigh them for me.
Oh, cool.
They don't seem really into being picked up.
Hi, how would you feel about me picking you up?
A lot of strength around the wings.
That's it.
I'm squeezing it real hard.
Okay, let go of me, though.
I telegraph you.
This is really freaky.
I'm holding my hands on the bottom.
Now while Gavin has her, you notice the beak isn't cut off.
And here's her little ears.
Do you know where her eyes are, Gavin?
Right in front of the ears.
Very good.
All right, I'm going to let her go.
And she's going to go nuts.
Yeah, she's going to fly.
One, two, three.
Help me, Levito.
Oh, my gosh.
That wasn't so bad.
Here you go, Gavin.
So we got a male here, right?
Correct.
They're bigger, stronger, tougher.
Tom Turkey.
Tom Turkey?
Tom Turkey.
Male.
It's called the Tom Turkey.
He does have a male air about him.
Look at him.
He's got his feathers puffed out there.
Oh, the male, he's strutting his stuff saying, hey, ladies, I want to see you.
You know, look at me.
Well, all that, I want to see you usually makes him not eat as well if you look at him puffing up like that.
Yeah, I think in the human world this year, that's frowned upon.
Liberals don't want men being masculine.
No, no.
So that's why we want to eat all hen turkeys this year.
We're strong, we fatten up, we can get the job done, and we taste great on the plate.
I couldn't agree more.
I hate to tell you this, but us girls do like the male around once in a while.
Maybe not all the time.
We don't want to confess to that, but it makes for a better culture, both in the chicken world as well as the turkey world.
The girls are calmer when there's a male presence.
Huh.
So if the feminists get their way and we get rid of the males, it'll be a much more dangerous society.
Correct.
A patriarchy works.
Yeah.
I hear you.
There's a reason for it.
They keep knocking us.
But ladies, trust us.
You don't want to get rid of us.
Well, I hate to say this, and I got to agree with you.
When the tire goes flat on your vehicle, who do you call?
A male.
Call your girlfriend, you know.
Hey, Sue, can you come help me?
No.
You usually call the guy.
He knows what to do.
Yeah.
Well, he's got the balls to handle it.
And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Let's see some cows.
It's getting hot.
Hey, Gavin.
Why don't you try lifting that and feeding the cows?
No problem.
I need some manly manliness.
You go, young man.
That's not electrified, is it?
No, but it would be funny.
Just drop it right there and see if we can get them to come out and talk to you.
Here, cows, have some hay.
Now, if you notice, they're chewing their cud.
Okay.
Do you have a knife on you?
No.
You're telling me you didn't bring a knife to a farm?
I'm sorry.
I don't have mine either.
I have my credit card.
I have my iPhone.
I have a knife cap.
We'll have to improvise.
What does a gay horse eat?
Hey.
Jeez.
What do you think?
What are you, a snob?
Come on, Fatso.
How much does a cow cost?
How much comes?
These are coming from the Y Angus.
So they are close to usually $6,000 to $20,000 for one breeding cow.
So she would be sold with a, pregnant, with a cow, it's called a cow calf.
So she would have a calf at her side.
So amazed, as you take us around this farm, how much work you do.
Why did you choose such hard work over city life?
If you look around, it's just beautiful.
I mean, the grass is growing, the climates are, the environment is changing all the time.
There's always something new and exciting going on.
Either a new calf, you come up here and a new calf is born, or, you know, Ferdinand Jr. has got a boo-boo on his foot.
There's always something.
So if you want boring, you go to the city.
If you want fun, you come out and you become a farmer.
Cool.
Not to mention the fact, if you get back to the main purpose, is you have a mission.
So the idea is that these guys are healthier ways of eating.
And I'm thinking I'm doing my part to accelerate that process.
Make people eat healthier.
Make people eat healthier, give them a resource.
So if they call Ferguson Family Farm, they can buy quarters or cuts of grass-fed beef, no grain whatsoever.
And they do fatten without corn.
That's a misnomer.
I'm getting hungry.
Getting hungry?
Maybe you better go.
I want a cheeseburger.
So that's the farm.
That's where you get your turkeys from.
And Thanksgiving is a time where your family gets together and gives thanks.
Thanks for all your blessings.
As we say in the Selkirk Grace, there's some ha-meat that can eat and some ha meat that want it.
But we hamit and we can eat.
And see the Lord be thanked it.
And I think in this divisive times, we tend to get lost in the weeds in the city and forget the big picture and forget that a tweet or a social media post or even a president is temporary.
Friends and family are forever.
So let's reinvite our disinvited guests and come together this Thanksgiving and see the Lord be thanked.
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