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Nov. 13, 2020 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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GOML LIVE #73 | VETERAN'S DAY (Part 1)

We do only calls for the live show starting today and for Veteran's Day we only take vet calls. Turns out, they're just like us only braver.

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There's a girl I'd like to meet.
I'd like to take her home.
But my girl wants me alone.
You're right, sound, sound, sound as a pound.
That was Angelic Upstarts, and their smash hit 42nd Street.
And when we are touring about in Manhattan and you pass 42nd Street, it's absolutely impossible not to get that fucking geezer in your cranium.
Today's book, Skins, Gavin Watson.
We had Gavin Watson on the old show on CR-TV.
He was a skinhead in the early 80s and he's got these beautiful shots.
His dad bought him a high-def camera back in like 1979.
And he captured the whole punk movement, the whole skinhead movement.
And of course it's been bastardized and seen as a fucking racist thing.
And there were racist skinheads.
But they all ended up dead.
It was maybe 5% of the movement in the 80s.
And those guys were guys that had been molested for the most part.
That's his brother.
He's on the front page of skins.
And they were sad sacks that had been fucked up the ass by old men.
And they all ended up in jail dead.
Mark gangbangers.
That's an interesting angle.
How much of gangbangers have been sexually molested?
What are you looking it up?
Yeah, let's ask the computer.
Hey, computer, how many gangbangers have been sexually molested?
Sorry, I'm not sure about that.
Yeah, I didn't think so.
I'm guessing it's like 60%.
Anyway, before we get started, tonight is a very special episode.
It is all call-ins.
We have a lot to talk about with the election and all kinds of other stuff.
We do that on a regular basis.
But from now on, Wednesdays, I'm frustrated that I can't get to the callers at the end of the show.
So from now on, we're going to get to the callers at the beginning of the show.
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God bless our troops.
I should be wearing our military helmet, right?
Ooh, good idea.
It's Veterans Day.
By the way, I was in a bar all day, as you can tell by my inebriation.
He says, as you can tell by my inebriation.
And where was the war shit?
Like, ESPN had a very minor shout-out to the military.
But if you told someone, if you told a millennial that it was Veterans Day today, I don't think they'd know.
Now, I'm not looking for accolades.
I'm not looking for shout-outs.
I'm not looking for a thank you for your service.
But I did watch Saving Private Ryan tonight with the family.
I started a new tradition.
The family watches a war movie every Veterans Day.
A good one, obviously.
And it was a little bit rich at the beginning with my seven-year-old.
Wow.
That Storming the Beach of Normandy, that was, I think, 4,000 dead.
That was not pretty.
But after that, it gets pretty good.
I mean, it's always good, but it gets pretty palatable for a seven-year-old.
And I just, I want the kids to know what these fuckers went through.
It was unfathomable.
It was unfathomable.
Look at the way we talk about traffic or gallstones.
Like what these soldiers Have been through, and for what?
Someone said, We want you to support our country.
Okay, how are the decisions made?
Well, a lot of them are bad decisions.
All right.
Are they mostly good decisions?
Yeah, they mostly declare American independence and are good for America.
Okay, well, I'll take the crunchy with the smooth.
I'll do the Obama with the Reagan, and I'll do them all.
I'll just take it on the chin for 10 presidents.
I might go to three out of ten shitty wars, but I'll do it because I love this country.
I mean, it goes military cops firemen, or maybe military fireman cops.
But the rest of us, can we just like sit in awe, please?
Can we not scoff?
Can we not roll our eyes at people braver than us?
That's all I ask.
I don't ask you to serve in the military.
I know you don't have the balls.
I don't have the balls.
But the eye rolling is what bothers me.
The lack of reverence and the lack of attention today to Veterans Day.
Ryan, your dad was in Vietnam killing white people.
My dad was not.
What was he, the top gook in all of Vietnam?
I don't know if that is a position, but he was not present in wars.
So your dad was Japanese.
Yes.
First of all, your Vietnamese grandfather was out there killing white people.
And then your Japanese dad was, what did he do, bomb Pearl Harbor?
No, he was of the race of people that did bomb Pearl Harbor, but he did not.
He's alive, so he didn't kamakaze into the Pearl Harbor.
But my grandfather did serve on our side, America.
The Puerto Rican guy.
Yes.
In the Vietnam, in the Nam.
In the Nam.
Shit.
God, I was watching Saving Private Ryan tonight, and they're showing them Storm Normandy.
Stormandy.
Stormandy.
And I'm just like, can we not fucking have some planes?
Yeah, I know.
Like, I'm watching these men get deteriorated.
Just full of holes.
I'm like, can a plane not come up?
What was the story there?
I think they were.
There's aerial battles all over the place, right?
There's a scene in the movie where Tom Hanks looks over.
I think it's at the pilots that could have been saving their lives.
And they're eating roast beef sandwiches.
Wow.
You know that everything in that movie came from real accounts.
You can just tell.
Except there's this one scene where this Jewish guy, he gets like a Nazi knife off of someone, and he starts going.
And my understanding was we didn't really know what they were doing to the Jews until like post-end of war.
So like 1946, we went, what the fuck, the Holocaust?
And saw the pictures and the starving people, and we were disgusted and mortified, obviously, as one should be.
But as far as like, I'm going to go there to save the Jews, I don't think that's what it was about.
But you watch movies like Captain America and he's like, what's going on with the Jews?
Oh, they're being gassed in the future.
Okay, I'm going to go there and prevent that.
So there's a couple corny scenes like that.
But outside of that, what a fucking movie.
And no, I do not want any kind of recognition for watching it many times, including Stoned and watching it with my family.
Save your recognition for the actual vets.
Yes, I appreciate it.
And yes, you're welcome for my service.
I don't know how I feel about this particular genre of comedy.
I don't know how they feel.
It's a little shaky.
I said to my grandfather today, because I think I'm every veterans day, but I shook it up this time.
I said, I just want to thank you for your strength and your courage and your bravery and your sacrifice.
He's like, thank you, Papy.
I was like, and that's just for dealing with me.
And he laughed very hard.
He wasn't.
Nice David Letterman after your job.
So we have a great show for you tonight.
Ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Apparently, there was air support.
There was air support.
There were 26 squadrons of Typhoons on D-Day.
They provided support for the mission.
I think they were ordered to take out communications and communications and transport targets as a priority.
My grandfather strafed trains in a Spitfire.
Where were you in the movie I saw tonight?
Yeah, I don't know.
That does make sense, though, right?
Just bomb those bunkers.
They're right there.
Normandy overall, I think it was June, July, August.
I think it was three months.
And we lost 72,000 men.
Now, not we, that's Canada, Britain, and America.
But that's still more than American soldiers lost in fucking all of Vietnam.
Vietnam was 60,000.
Omaha Beach.
What a nightmare.
Holy fuck.
And then we have 2020 when people talk about how they were made to feel uncomfortable in the workplace.
Someone ogled their buns.
Imagine these guys being told that you're going to live, but someone will ogle your buns in the workplace.
What a fucking pussy generation, huh?
Maybe we should call my dad.
Let's call dad, shall we?
He needs his own show.
A lot of people are big fans of dad.
I like calling him at this time of night because I know there's no way on God's green earth he could be sober.
My son's on the cover of a magazine.
Let's give him a ring.
Sounds promising.
The last ring sounded long.
Oh, now it's sounding bad.
There was a breakup and it went.
Now it sounds good again.
No, now it sounds bad.
Hi, it's Slorin here, leave your name and number, and I'll call you back.
Thanks a lot.
Bye.
After leaving a message, you can hang up or press pound for more options.
Hey, mom.
Sorry to bother you, this is not a big deal, but...
Um...
We...
I think I miscarried.
I was running really, really fast and I tripped and I hit my belly on a stump and I Anyway, this is not your problem.
I'm sorry, I called.
I'm sorry, Cald.
So that might get her to come back.
We don't know.
We don't know.
Is that something you do?
What do you mean?
Was that the kind of like first go-head for a joke like that where you fake cry and pretend you had a miscarriage?
I've never done that particular bit before, but.
Okay.
It's kind of fun.
I kind of want to call my brother.
My dad would do that to my brother.
He'll be like, Kyle, call me back.
I'm not going to make it.
I need your help.
No.
And then my brother will, you know, run from the bar and call him in an alleyway and he'll be like, so what's up, my man?
How are we doing?
Dad, I thought you were stabbed in the neck.
Oh, I could have been.
I might be.
Let me see.
I'm trying to connect with the callers.
As we promised.
We have a lot.
We have a lot of gossip.
The NDP party in many campaigns.
I don't think they could hear you.
The NDP party is spending their whole fact that Proud Boys are a white supremacist group.
And they have to prevent that from happening again, I guess.
And there are 300 white supremacist groups in Canada.
300?
You must be counting every single fucking tweet.
Every person's a group?
Every, every, everything.
Every, everything.
People are hating this.
What?
The sound?
Like this?
Yeah.
Fixing a microphone, dickweeds.
Are you making progress on that?
often?
No, I'm a people, so I just figured...
So when you say people are hating this, you mean you?
Yeah, but we get like thousands of people.
Well, I hate a lot of people, and that lot of people is you.
Ouch.
Everybody knows what I'm saying is true.
I wish that wasn't the drop that happened.
So yeah.
Veterans Day.
Incredible day.
And let's just separate it from politics.
Separate it from, I didn't like that war.
I didn't like Vietnam.
Imagine your job is to go to work where you can die.
Now, cops have that.
What about black people?
Every time they get in their car, they could die.
Shut the fuck up.
That's not true.
Firemen, yes, they can die.
And I definitely have them in a category way the fuck above me.
But soldiers, they're even above that.
And these pussies who criticize them or criticize anything about them, they're just pure cowardice.
Like it's a level of courage we can't imagine.
Literally can't imagine.
I can't imagine with my gun going over, you know, the fucking sand dune, the grassy knoll, the hump in the land, knowing that I could just fucking get drilled at any moment.
And they weren't all single men.
Like, they had kids.
They had mommies.
Ah, fuck.
They talk about George Floyd called out for his mother.
Yeah.
All 4,000 of the men killed on the beaches of Normandy called out for their mother as they died.
No, I don't really like that.
Why was this not all over the media today?
I checked Twitter moments and Veterans Day came up zero times.
Now I checked the hashtags, right?
Trending.
Veterans Day was the number one hashtag.
But isn't that the people doing that?
Like, why wasn't the number one trend on Twitter Veterans Day?
Because of Trump?
Because Trump was in World War II?
Fuck you.
The other funny thing is, too, they trivialize military service, but they also shit on Trump for not serving.
You can't have it both ways.
I get the whole, like, why didn't Trump serve?
I understand that.
But, so you like people that serve now?
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Okay.
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First veteran that calls in.
First veteran.
Yeah.
And he gets two free beard vet coffee bags and beard equipment.
Yummy.
He gets one Jenny, Johnny Apple CBD prize pack.
Jenny.
And whatever else the ad guy can make fall off the prize wheel.
We love the vets.
We love the vets.
Love the vets.
Great guys.
You wouldn't even believe it.
I mean, you look at the numbers.
You know, when we got...
Magdaddy.
You'd think they'd go through the front door.
They didn't.
They went through this side.
Remember that?
Yeah.
Knock-knock, you would think they made it.
They can go knock-knock.
And this dog, this beautiful dog, I mean, the coat was pretty great.
I mean, it was great.
It was good.
I like when he does like the big, like, where he's like, these are great men, these big, brawny men with the arms.
I was listening to a great Dave Smith sat in the car today.
And he's like, I don't like politicians at all.
I hate the government.
I feel The same way as Dave.
I hate the fucking government.
I hate Republicans.
I hate conservatives.
I hate liberals.
I don't like the government.
I don't want it to be there.
I want the White House to be gone.
Military police, yes.
Infrastructure, sort of.
No, no, not really.
We'll pay tolls.
But otherwise, I hate fucking politicians.
I hate the government.
What are you doing there?
Oh, the tricaster is already getting hot.
But he was saying, you know, the amazing thing about Trump is like, he doesn't have a script.
Like, name another politician that says, what now?
And there really isn't one.
What now?
What now?
And then someone will yell out, I'm doing Dave Smith's bid.
I'm stealing it.
China.
And then he'll go, China.
And he'll do a whole spiel on China.
He did like an improv thing?
Like, could I get a new one?
That's the thing.
His whole election, his whole presidency is improv.
That's pretty great.
I need an occupation and a name.
What do you get?
All right, let's do some calls.
Do calls.
We have a lot of news to cover, and we will have Election Gate covered tomorrow.
But let's save that for the main shows.
And on these free shows, I want to catch up on some calls.
Alright, so we got Hopefully it's a real veteran.
We don't.
Are you going to quiz them, guys?
Million dollars is pretty rare.
I'd say so.
What's up, guys?
You're on the line.
Hey, man.
Just calling in about the Senate war.
Here in North Carolina, Tom Tillis, he, I guess, officially, if you will, won today.
Cal Cunningham, the Democrat, conceded.
So that's a plus for the Senate race.
So I guess it comes down to Georgia as far as control of the Senate.
But military thing, and they give Donald Trump shit about shin splints or whatever that he got deferments from Vietnam.
But Biden, I believe he got deferments for asthma.
Yeah, that's the thing.
All politicians got out of war.
Yep.
I don't like it.
It's absolutely nuts.
What's your military history?
I was in the Air Force for six years, 4-0.
I was a medical technician.
I was a medic in the Air Force.
Spent two years in Europe and Germany.
Did a year tour in Korea.
Then did a year at Charleston Air Force Base in South Carolina.
And did my final year at Pope Army Airfield, Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
So what's that like?
Like you don't have to fly a plane.
You sit in planes?
No, no.
Well, could be doing a lot of different things.
You know, did a lot of general practice where we see patients on a daily basis.
You know, we can do flight ops, you know, taking people back and forth.
Did a lot of that in Europe coming from theater to Launch Dool, which is the regional hospital there in Europe.
And they can do surgeries there and or bring back people to stateside, to Walter Reed, or bigger military hospitals.
It sounds like it was pretty easy, though.
Like there was never anything major.
You never had a guy who had his leg blown off.
I'm not trivializing your service.
I'm just curious.
I'm just trivializing your service.
Oh, yeah, yeah, certainly.
No, no, no.
You know, certainly saw a lot of it.
Guys coming back from theater with horrible injuries and stuff.
Coming back from where?
Still currently in the army.
Coming back from the theater, Iraq and Afghanistan.
That's called the theater?
Theater of war?
Yeah.
They call it being in theater when somebody's in an ag of war zone.
Like you ever hear like the Pacific Theater?
Don't you think that we have these low death tolls with the Middle East, and then we have obviously a high death toll in the Civil War with 620,000.
But you look at the numbers and so many of those guys died of dysentery and shrapnel and infection.
Maybe these modern wars are just as bad as the Civil War, but our medicine is so good that it's giving us a funny count.
Certainly.
And, you know, there's a lot more people are living today because of medical advancements.
And they kind of refer to it as the golden hour.
If somebody's able to get to a trauma hospital, whether that be at Bogram Airfield or somewhere where there's a trauma hospital basically and able to receive care within the golden hour, they generally, I think it's like a 50% chance of living, which is very good if you have massive internal injuries or losing limbs, that kind of thing.
Well, as someone who's served in Saving Private Ryan now twice, at least twice, maybe probably three or four times, I noticed in the movie that they have mere seconds to survive.
Oh, yeah.
And we certainly look up to you as Captain of the Castle.
This is going way too far.
This is my most uncomfortable joke.
Well, you won.
Yeah, you won, sir.
You won a Bubbin Hanks gift card, two free beard vet coffee bags and beard equipment.
And you can grow a beard at any time, by the way.
You don't have to have a beard today.
You won a Johnny Apple CBD prize pack.
And that's it.
Yeah.
Well, I do appreciate it, Guys, we appreciate you, sir.
Ryan, you got his number?
I do.
Certainly.
I will contact you after the show.
All right, buddy.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for your service.
Sounds good.
Certainly.
Thanks, guys.
Oh, wow.
I didn't like that one.
That one stunk.
So, thank you for your services.
That's you know, T-Y-F-Y-S, if we want to keep it a little shorter, because I feel like there's going to be a lot of that.
T-Y-F-F-Y-S.
Put in T-Y for your service, T-Y-F-Y-S, and we'll skip right to you.
T-Y-F-Y-S.
That's the kind of guys we are.
You risked your life to protect America, even with an asshole president.
We are willing to jump a call.
So we're basically the same.
We're skipping Charlie because we know what that means.
He's the enemy.
His name is Charlie.
Seeing your wife and kids for a year, we're willing to click a button on our mouse.
Sounds the same to me.
Kevin.
Hey, what's up, guys?
What's up, dude?
Hey, you know, it's really hard being a veteran walking around seeing all these civilians and knowing, you know, they've never been through it.
You know, they've never watched Apocalypse Mount Surround Sound.
They'll never know what it's really like.
I know how you feel, my friend.
But as a fellow war movie vet, we both are in a different group, a different dimension almost.
And you know what the worst part for guys like you and me who've watched tons of war movies is we try to get back after we watch the movie, we try to get back into society and we're like, you haven't seen it.
You can't relate.
I don't know you.
We're forgotten, man.
Well, all we can do is text them the movie recommendations.
Like, what was the most recent one I liked?
The one where they're in that pit with the mountains on the ball?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The pit one.
I just sent it to Maddie Odell.
1917?
No, no, that was brutal, too, and I can't believe I survived it.
It was fantastic.
I told you, man, you got to watch it in theaters.
Because it's basically like you're there.
But what's the one?
The Outpost.
The Outpost.
That's actually playing in.
Where Clinice would use guys that were there in the movie.
Why doesn't he get more accolades for that?
That's a fucking badass thing to do.
He made a whole movie about that train fight with the jihadists, and he used the guys.
Right now, I'm too busy making America great again.
All right, thanks for calling.
Next call.
Okay, here we go.
There's a call from a fellow vet from my tier of vets.
We should have our own Veterans Day.
Like, I understand soldiers want theirs, blah, blah, blah.
That's great.
But what about war movie buffs like me and the trauma we've gone through?
I was bawling my fucking eyes out like a whore at the beginning.
The beginning of the movie is Private Ryan going to his, not his grave, obviously, but the grave of the people who brought him home.
Like that's 10 seconds into the movie.
And I was just like, and I look over at my son, my middle son, and he's looking at me.
And it's weird to see your dad cry, obviously, especially when he's a dick to you 99% of the day.
And he sees me going, and then I noticed he was going like this.
He was doing my cry phase.
He fucking did.
He's like, that's a win.
Air Force veteran here.
T-Y-F-Y-S.
Air Force vet, go ahead.
Hey, this is Lighthouse Tom.
Hi, we have to keep him on.
Oh, my God.
Were you an Air Force vet?
Yeah, I'm an Air Force veteran.
All right.
Promise.
I was also in Germany.
Really?
Yeah, and I want to thank you guys for your service.
Really?
You look up to us as war movie watchers.
I know, that's so awesome.
But I was going to say that when people say that to me, it's natural to say thank you.
But instead, I say it was my privilege and an honor.
And you should see how that throws them, man.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Assuming that you're telling the truth, I don't think you should say you're welcome or even thank you.
I mean, you put your life on the line.
My privilege.
Yeah, yes, I did.
You know, and it was an honor.
That's pretty good.
But I wanted to talk about a couple other things.
One thing is that I had to ask you, Gavin, when you're in the gym, right?
Yeah.
Is there still that whole thing with holding onto your jiz so you have more stamina?
Yeah.
I mean, they still do that.
I mean, guys talk to you about that?
No, no, I don't.
That has nothing to do with my gym.
That's a Proud Boys thing.
We discovered that when you don't beat off, your marriage is better, sex is better, your relationships are better.
And I've noticed with millennials, it gets them off the couch.
Yeah.
Porn.
I had a girlfriend who used to say to me, don't you dare do that.
And so when they didn't, and after three days, man, I was all over her.
Yeah.
Now, the problem with all this Zoom shit with school is I'm never alone with my wife.
I used to get a whole Wednesday where I could have lingerie, whatever I wanted, and I would shoot a load that would burn holes in the wall.
And now I'm never alone in the house.
So, shish.
It makes it very uncomfortable in the workplace.
Because that energy did another thing.
You guys, a couple of weeks ago, you were talking about what your spirit animal might be.
Yeah.
You know, your spirit animal?
Yes.
And I went and did one of those goofy tests on BuzzFeed.
And I found, you know, I pretended I was Gavin.
I pretended I was you, Ryan.
Nice.
And it turns out, Gavin, you know what you are?
You know what spirit animal is?
A sea otter?
You're a lion.
Nice.
Oh, that's a good one.
That guy's cool.
Rion.
Yeah.
I don't think Rion has any natural predators, does he?
Can a rhino even beat up a lion?
The lion is the king.
The lion is the king.
In fact, it says: you take pride in your friends and family and protect them at all costs.
You're a natural-born leader.
You have a strong distaste for ineffective leadership in others, and you're not afraid to challenge the status quo.
That's your characteristics.
Now, Ryan, guess what you came up as?
Something fang and weird.
You're a straight animal as a fang.
A penguin.
Ryan, you are a meerkat.
Oh, fucking.
That's way worse.
Is that real?
No, it's cool.
Oh, okay.
Meerkats are cool, Ryan.
All right, so what is the Meerkat about?
He's so.
You are talkative, friendly, and funny.
You are intelligent and capable of accomplishing just about anything, but you often struggle with knowing exactly what that is.
Fucking good.
This guy's good.
And, you know, so listen, listen, thank you guys for your service.
I love your show so much.
It's really a pleasure talking to you.
I'm telling you, Gavin, you got to read my lighthouse story.
Come on.
Well, if there's one day, I'll give you the time of day.
It's Veterans Day.
Yeah, we'll check that out.
Anyway, thanks for calling.
Who's our next vet?
Let's see.
You know, I was sent to bar today, actually all day.
And did I already say there was no veteranship?
I did that right.
And then I'm talking to this dude.
I'm talking to Maddie.
And it comes up.
Bars in New York are going to be closing at 10 p.m.
Starting like, I think Monday.
Oh, really?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Closing at 10 p.m.
Like it's not shitty enough.
And there's a thing where, like, say you want to get on a flight.
You come back and they take your home phone number, not your cell number, your home phone number.
So say you get a round trip to Florida, which, by the way, the flights are 20 bucks.
So you fly to Florida, you come back, they get your home phone number, they check it while you're there.
And then you have to stay there for two weeks.
I've done a test three days before the flight in Florida.
And if it's negative, if it's positive, actually, I don't really understand this.
I shouldn't be talking.
But yeah, there's so many intricate details that I don't even understand how you could possibly do a round-trip ticket.
I will build a great, great wall.
Veteran on the line.
No, I'm interested.
Well, that's.
Now we got to look it up.
Paige.
Hey, hey, Gavin, good to see you.
Uhuru.
Hey, hey.
Gavin, I've got to tell you, my friend, frigging, as a Marine veteran, I've been to Iraq several times.
I've been to Afghanistan several times.
This shtick of thank you for your service is fucking hilarious.
Just keep at it.
It's hilarious.
Ryan, I got to tell you, man, I'm sorry to hear your dad comic conceit himself.
Is that why he was never around?
That's very funny, but untrue.
Go ahead.
One thing you guys got to look up, one of the best reproductions of my experience in Iraq is HBO series called Generation Kill.
You got to watch that one.
That has, for me, the most realistic depiction of my time in Iraq.
So check that shit out.
It's freaking awesome.
I got one favor and one question for you, an idea for you.
I'm an old school punk rocker as well.
I grew up listening to the germ, freaking dead Kennedys, and I'm curious, when did punk rock go from anarchy in the UK to socialism in the USA?
When the fuck did that happen?
I'd be really interested to hear like a censor presents or something like that on that, on your perspective on that.
Well, thanks for calling.
Yeah, it was pretty late in the game.
I mean, when I was a young man, punk rock was left-wing, but the right wing was also welcome because it was no wing.
Like you had conflict, the anarcho-punk band conflict that were sort of an evolution of crass talking about the code is cut.
And it was an anti-abortion song because they were so pro-animal.
I'm not kidding.
They're so pro-animal that they ended up being pro-human and pro-life, and they were against abortion.
And then you had Gangrene with Budweiser on their fucking album covers.
And you had Forgotten Rebels doing Bomb the Boats and Feed the Fish.
Like it was Anything Goes.
Sid Vicious had a swastika on his shirt.
And in early hardcore in the 80s, they continued that like Anything Goes philosophy.
And then it sort of split into like crust core, grind core, napalm death stuff, which was unintelligible.
And then there was the SoCal scene with like face-to-face or whatever the fuck they were called.
And a bunch of these bands with big board shorts on the stage.
And they started trying to do politics.
You got Bad Religion.
Maybe Bad Religion was the beginning of this shithole.
And all of a sudden, it was about political correctness.
And by the time we leaked into the late 90s, the early aughts, things were starting to stink.
But I would say punk still clung to a sense of anarchy well into the Early 2000s.
But then, I don't know, this is pre-Trump.
During Obama's presidency, I'd say, you started getting these fucking dogmatic assholes who wanted to shut you down if you didn't support the socialist status quo.
What's the band that Communism Now, Boys, that band?
Real Communism Now or something they're called?
The something boys?
What the fuck are they called?
Wait, go back.
Yeah, Downtown Boys.
The Downtown Boys were really the beginning of this extremism.
Them.
Jeez.
Look at them.
Saxophone.
Great jam.
There we go.
Great drumming.
125 million Africans, what?
Oh, they're talking about slavery?
Oh, no, we're going to go!
We're going to go!
We're going to go!
Jesus.
I can't hear my face!
I can't hear my face!
Willie Davis, Black Panther, Tupac Shakur.
Yo.
Oh, my God.
Well, they ruined it.
And the thing I don't get about this whole need for the band that you see to be the same politics as you is how unfun is that?
Like you're watching a band and the keyboardist, the drummer, the bassist, guitarist all feel the exact same way as you about everything.
That to me seems polluted and wrong.
Oh shit.
We're supposed to go off the air.
Can you just do a hard cut?
No, we'll end it here.
Okay.
So this is the end of the free podcast.
By the way, Ryan, we were way behind on the free podcast on iTunes.
Is that your fault?
I don't know, but like you said, 64, a couple other ones I remember putting up there, they're not there.
So I'm going to look into it.
What do you mean you don't know?
I don't know.
So you do put every episode up.
Sure do.
And then there was like three of them that were not there.
So I was like, well, all right, I don't know.
But then we also did the ones I know that the reason why they weren't there, the hot tub episode.
And that was a million years ago.
And then me, like the Just Me episode.
So we didn't put those up.
Those are the only ones I didn't put up.
But those are thousands of years ago.
I'm talking about three weeks ago was not up.
Hmm.
Weird.
Which episode?
You did put it up?
Yeah.
Which episode was it?
Well, I texted you.
You said 64.
I think 64.
But that one's certainly up there.
Okay.
Anyway, that's enough free stuff.
We're going behind the paywall now.
Get fired, get in trouble, be brave, and never stop fighting.
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