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Oct. 23, 2020 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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S03E28 - SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE [2020-10-23 - S03E28 - SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE]
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Great wall of China.
Hey guys, welcome to the live stream.
Let's get it up as soon as possible.
We will be analyzing Joe and Donnie as they fight with a mute button.
Believe me, and I am always right.
I want to make it clear, though, before we start that this show has no political bias.
We don't know who we're voting for.
Maybe Biden will win and Biden will be our guy.
Maybe Donald will win.
We want to keep this right down the middle because Trump just seems like a regular guy to me.
Let's see what they have to say.
The first question tonight will go to President Trump, kicking off the final showdown in a race that almost 50 million Americans have already voted.
Extraordinary.
Tonight's debate is supposed to stick to half a dozen topics selected by the moderator, Christian Welker, who we just saw enter.
But of course, this is 2020, and anything can happen.
Based on what we saw the first time around, we've got 90 minutes of debate between these two candidates tonight.
We also have a stocked panel.
Let's go to Chris Wallace.
Chris, you've been on this stage.
You know what Kristen Welker is facing at this very moment.
Tell us about that.
Well, I was thinking about it.
I can't help.
I think every moderator ends up feeling happy for my night in shining off.
She had what I had, which is a loose-leaf black notebook, and you've got tabs in each section, and you've got your questions, you've got your facts to back up the questions.
So you've come in with a plan.
You're prepared.
And frankly, right now.
We're going to keep streaming, but the site is down again.
Remember what happened last time?
Just get yourself ready.
For fuck's sake.
Where we got swarms?
Can you watch the show?
We're recording right now, so this will be available in posterity.
Dana.
But what if you go on the site, on the app to live?
I don't even know if you could one president and one who wants to be president.
It's an incumbent president at this point who's fighting to hold on to his job.
When I put the punch live button, nothing happens.
We can't even watch pre-recorded videos.
Let's see.
Like I'm trying to pull up a sofa.
As it is the latest thing to watch there, the site won't load on my Chrome.
On my app, it says loading, loading.
Yeah, no.
This is not good, folks.
This was a timed attack because when we did the pre-stream, about 30 seconds to a minute long pre-stream, it worked just fine.
It's almost like they set bots to overwhelm the site.
I think from what we see in the papers.
Happened last time.
Our guy's working on it.
And last night we were live with no problems.
Somebody said...
But, you know, App Live is good now.
I've been in the backstage of six months.
Okay, people are saying that they're watching from the app now.
Oh, good.
The app is back up.
Folks, while we were down, I decided I am supporting Trump.
I saw myself back in the monitor, and I saw the hat and the shirt, and I thought, that looks great.
Actually, he doesn't look great, does it?
What is with these Trump hats?
Oh, you know what?
All right, here's another thing, real quick.
It's because of yourself, if you're talking to me.
It's because he has a lot of hair.
But like he designed them to be.
Because my hair will come.
Oh, so they're for people with big hair?
Well, you try this on and tell me.
Oh, it's perfect.
I want to make it.
So the people that already were on the site, it works for.
Now, anybody new coming in between President Donald J. Trump and former advice, President Joe Biden, for big hair dudes.
It is conducted under health and safety protocols designed by the Commission's health security advisor.
The audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent.
No cheers, booze, or other interruptions.
They promise.
Right now, as we welcome to the stage former Vice President Joe Biden and President Donald J. Trump.
Oh, already with the COVID.
We make sure the mask is just coming off.
Did Trump do that?
No?
Nice.
I've noticed people shake hands now as a way of saying I'm for Trump and I don't believe COVID is a big deal.
And I do want to say a very good evening to both of you.
This debate will cover six major topics.
At the beginning of each section, each candidate will have two minutes uninterrupted to answer my first question.
The debate commission will then turn on.
She freaked out when Cernovich went into the press room and culture just put on their Instagram saying that she melted down.
And we will begin with the fight against the coronavirus.
President Trump, the first question is for you.
The country is heading into a dangerous new phase.
More than 40,000 Americans are in the hospital tonight with COVID, including record numbers here in Tennessee.
And since the two of you last shared a stage, 16,000 Americans have died from COVID.
So please be specific.
How would you lead the country during this next stage of the coronavirus crisis?
Two minutes, uninterrupted.
So as you know, 2.2 million people modeled out were expected to die.
We closed up the greatest economy in the world in order to fight this horrible disease that came from China.
It's a worldwide pandemic.
It's all over the world.
You see the spikes in Europe and many other places.
If you notice, the mortality rate is down 85 percent.
The excess mortality rate is way down and much lower than almost any other country.
And we're fighting it and we're fighting it hard.
There is a spike.
There was a spike in Florida and it's now gone.
There was a very big spike in Texas.
It's now gone.
There was a very big spike in the future.
What should he have done differently?
Why are they so mad at it?
There are some spikes and surges in the middle of the market.
The narrative with the left is that he killed 200,000 people.
And by the way, I can't get on censored.tv on my computer.
It's going to be announced within weeks, and it's going to be delivered.
We have Operation Warp Speed, which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine.
I can tell you from personal experience that I was in the hospital, I had it, and I got better.
And I will tell you that I had something that they gave me, a therapeutic, I guess they would call it.
Some people could say it was a cure.
But I was in for a short period of time and I got better very fast or I wouldn't be here tonight.
And now they say I'm immune.
Whether it's four months or a lifetime, nobody's been able to say that.
But I'm immune.
More and more people.
So it's still not working.
Some people that have started early, they're good.
Anybody else trying to come in nay good.
So in a minute, it's going to work.
Many countries will have been able to do.
If you take a look at what we've done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and everything else, and in particular ventilators, we're now making ventilators all over the world, thousands and thousands a month.
We shut down the country.
We've possibly permanently destroyed the economy.
New York City, I don't see how it could recover.
That wasn't enough?
Okay, former Vice President Biden, to you, how would you lead the country out of this crisis?
You have two minutes uninterrupted.
220,000 Americans dead.
If you hear nothing else, I say tonight, hear this.
Anyone who's responsible for not taking control, in fact, not saying I take no responsibility initially, anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America.
That's a good pitch.
We're in a situation where there are 1,000 deaths a day now.
1,000 deaths a day.
And there are over 70,000 new cases per day.
Compared to...
Sounds like a low mortality rate.
As the New England Medical Journal said, they're starting from a very low rate.
We're starting from a very high rate.
The expectation is we'll have another 200,000 Americans dead by time between now and the end of the year.
Betime.
If we just wore these masks, the President's own advisors have told him we could save 100,000 lives.
And we're in a circumstance where the President still has no plan, no comprehensive plan.
What I would do is make sure we have everyone encouraged to wear a mask.
Everyone wears a mask.
And the places they don't, like Florida, That we set up national standards as to how to open up schools and open up businesses so they can be safe and give them the wherewithal, the financial resources, to be able to do that.
We're in a situation now where the New England Medical Journal, one of the most serious journals in the whole world, said for the first time ever that the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic.
And so, folks, I will set that up.
I will end this.
I will make sure.
President Trump, I'd like to follow up with you in your comments.
You talked about taking a therapeutic, I assume you're referencing reducing.
Johnson Johnson is doing very well.
Moderna is doing very well.
Pfizer is doing very well.
And we have numerous others.
Then we also have others that we're working on very closely with other countries, in particular Europe.
Let me follow up with you.
And because this is new information, you have said a vaccine is coming soon within weeks now.
Your own officials say it could take well into 2021 at the earliest for enough Americans to get vaccinated.
And even then, they say the country will be wearing masks and distancing into 2022.
Is your timeline realistic?
No, I think my timeline is going to be more accurate.
I don't know that they're counting on the military the way I do, but we have our generals lined up, one in particular, that's the head of logistics.
And this is a very easy distribution for him.
He's ready to go as soon as we have the vaccine.
And we expect to have 100 million vials as soon as we have the vaccine.
He's ready to go.
I'm not taking the vaccine.
No. 2022 with the mask and social distancing.
And this is more like wear a mask.
You can't go anywhere in New York without a mask on.
Make sure it's totally transparent.
Have the science.
Know it.
Look at it.
Go through all the processes.
And by the way, this is the same fellow who told you this is going to end by Easter last time.
This is the same fellow who told you that, don't worry, we're going to end this by the summer.
We're about to go into a dark winter, a dark winter.
And he has no clear plan, and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the American people before the middle of next year.
President Trump, your reaction, he says you have no plan.
We're not going to have a dark winter at all.
We're opening up our country.
We've learned and studied and understand the disease, which we didn't at the beginning.
When I closed and banned China from coming in heavily infected and then ultimately Europe, but China was in January months later, he was saying I was xenophobic.
I did it too soon.
Now he's saying, oh, I should have moved quicker.
But he didn't move quicker.
He was months behind me, many months behind me.
And frankly, he ran the H1N1 swine flu, and it was a total disaster, far less lethal, but it was a total disaster.
Had that had this kind of numbers, 700,000 people would be dead right now, but it was a far less lethal disease.
Look, his own person who ran that for him, who, as you know, was his chief of staff, said it was catastrophic.
It was horrible.
We didn't know what we were doing.
Now he comes up and he tells us how to do this.
Also, everything that he said about the way, every single move that he said we should make, that's what we've done.
We've done all of it.
But he was way behind us.
Vice President Biden, your response.
My response is he is xenophobic, but not because he shut down access from China.
And he did it late after 40 countries had already done that.
In addition to that, what he did, he made sure that we had 44 people that were in there in China trying to get the Wuhan to determine what exactly the source was.
What did the President say in January?
He said, no, he said, this is, he's being transparent.
The president of China is being transparent.
We owe him a debt of gratitude.
We have to thank him.
And then what happened was, we started talking about using the Defense Act to make sure we go out and get whatever is needed out there to protect people.
And again, I go back to this.
He had nothing.
He did virtually nothing.
And then he gets out of the hospital and he talks about, don't worry, it's all going to be over soon.
Come on.
There's not another serious scientist in the world who thinks it's going to be over soon.
President Trump, your reaction?
I don't say over soon.
I say we're learning to live with it.
We have no choice.
We can't lock ourselves up in a basement like Joe does.
He has the ability to lock himself up.
I don't know.
He's obviously made a lot of money someplace.
But he has this thing about living in a basement.
People can't do that.
By the way, I, as I said, I'd go to Trump in a basement or in a beautiful room in the White House and go away for a year and a half until it disappears.
I can't do that.
And Kirsten, every meeting I had, every meeting I had, and I'd meet a lot of families, including Gold Star families and military families, every meeting I had, and I had to meet them.
I had to.
It would be horrible to have canceled everything.
I said, you know, this is dangerous.
And you catch it.
And, you know, I caught it.
I learned a lot.
I learned a lot.
Great doctors, great hospitals.
And now I recovered.
99.9 of young people recover.
99% of people recover.
We have to recover.
We can't close up our nation.
We have to open our school.
And we can't close up our nation or you're not going to have a nation.
And of course, the CDC has said young people can get sick with COVID-19.
The whole angle of this didn't do enough is so weird because look outside.
Look at the plexiglass everywhere.
I have a question.
Number one, he says that we're learning to live with it.
People are learning to die with it.
You folks home will have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning.
That man and your wife going to bed tonight and reaching over to try to touch their, out of habit, where their wife or husband was.
Smell their kid.
Learning to live with it.
Come on.
You don't even sniff kids anymore.
Because he has never said, you see, you said it's dangerous.
When's the last time?
Is it really dangerous still?
Are we dangerous?
You tell the people it's dangerous now.
What should they do about the danger?
And you say, I take no responsibility.
Let me talk about your team.
Excuse me, I take full responsibility.
It's not my fault that it came here.
It's China's fault.
And you know what?
It's not Joe's fault that it came here either.
It's China's fault.
They kept it from going into the rest of China for the most part, but they didn't keep it from coming out to the world, including Europe and ourselves.
Vice President Biden.
Nice.
The fact is that when we knew it was coming, when it hit, what happened?
What did the president say?
He said, don't worry.
It's going to go away.
Be gone by Easter.
Don't worry.
The warm weather.
Don't worry.
Maybe inject bleach.
He said he was kidding when he said that.
A lot of people thought it was serious.
A whole range of things the president said.
Even today, he thinks We are in control.
We're about to lose two.
How could we possibly be doing more?
I don't know about you in your state, but here in New York, New York City just started getting busy again about three days ago.
I was in traffic yesterday for the first time.
I shouldn't have closed.
In months.
I shouldn't have closed.
And that went on for months.
Nancy Pelosi said the same thing.
She was dancing on the streets in Chinatown in San Francisco.
But when I closed, he said, this is a terrible thing.
You xenophobic.
I think he called me racist even.
And because I was closing it to China.
Now he says I should have closed it earlier.
It just, Joe, it doesn't work.
I didn't say either of those things.
You certainly did.
I talked about his xenophobia in a different context.
It wasn't about closing the border to Chinese coming to the United States.
I want to talk about both of your different strategies to handle this.
He thought I shouldn't have closed the border.
That's obvious.
Do you want to respond to that quickly, Vice President?
Okay.
Let's talk about your different strategies toward dealing with this.
Mr. Vice President, you suggested you would support new shutdowns if scientists recommended it.
What do you say to Americans who are fearful that the cost of shutdowns, the impact on the economy, the higher rates of hunger, depression, domestic and bars for me?
Three favorite bars.
It's his ineptitude that caused the country to have to shut down in large part.
Why businesses have gone under, why schools are closed, why so many people have lost their living, and why they're concerned.
Wait a minute.
All these people have shut down because they're trying to stop COVID.
So he's saying at the same time he's saying Trump didn't do enough, he's saying Trump did so much that it devastated the economy.
I guess we can't have it both ways.
Maybe what he means is because he underestimated it, people decided to not social distance as much or use masks.
So that's why we had to shut shit down.
I guess that's an angle.
We need standards.
The standard is if you have a reproduction rate in a community that's above a certain level, everybody says slow up.
More social distancing.
Do not open bars and do not open gymnasiums.
Do not open until you get this under control, under more control.
But when you do open, give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely.
For example, schools.
Schools, they need a lot of money to open.
They need to deal with ventilation systems.
They need to deal with smaller classes, more teachers, more pods.
And he's refused to support that money, or at least up to now.
Let's talk about schools.
President Trump.
I think we have to respond, if I might.
Please, and then I have a follow-up.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Look, all he does is talk about shutdowns.
But forget about him.
His Democrat governors, Cuomo and New York.
You look at what's going on in California.
You look at Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Democrats, Democrats all.
They're shut down so tight and they're dying.
They're dying.
And he supports all these people.
All he talks about is shutdowns.
No, we're not going to shut down, and we have to open our schools.
And it's like, as an example, I have a young son.
He also tested positive.
By the time I spoke to the doctor the second time, he was fine.
It just went away.
Young people, I guess it's their immune system.
Let me follow up with you, President Trump.
You've demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely.
But just yesterday, Boston became the latest city to move its public school system entirely online after a coronavirus spike.
What is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school will endanger not only their kids, but also their teachers and families?
I want to open the schools.
The transmittal rate to the teachers is very small, but I want to open the schools.
We have to open our country.
We're not going to have a country.
You can't do this.
We can't.
Teachers are fat.
This is a massive country with a massive economy.
People are losing their jobs.
They're committing suicide.
There's depression, alcohol, drugs at a level that nobody's ever seen before.
Lack of alcohol.
Abuse, tremendous abuse.
We have to open our country.
Enough alcohol abuse.
Often the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself.
And that's what's happening.
And he wants to close down.
He'll close down the country if one person in our massive bureaucracy says we should close it down.
Vice President Biden, you're aware of it.
It's simply not true.
We ought to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
We ought to be able to safely open.
But when they need resources to open, you need to be able to, for example, if you're going to open a business, have social distancing within the business.
You need to have, if you have a restaurant, you need to have plexiglass dividers so people cannot infect one another.
You need to be in a position where you can take testing rapidly and know whether a person is, in fact, to be able to trace.
And we got the results in 24 hours.
All the resources that are needed.
Temperature guns.
And that is not inconsistent.
My kids go to school.
Every single one of them has a temperature gun as they walk into the fucking school.
And by the way, all you teachers out there, not that many of you are going to die, so don't worry about it.
So don't worry about it.
Come on.
President Trump, let me follow up with you quickly.
By the way, I will say this.
If you go and look at what's happened to New York, it's a ghost town.
It's a ghost town.
And when you talk about plexiglass, these are restaurants that are dying.
These are businesses with no money.
Putting a plexiglass is unbelievably expensive.
And it's not the answer.
I mean, you're going to sit there in a cubicle wrapped around with plastic.
These are businesses that are dying, Joe.
You can't do that to people.
You just can't.
Take a look at New York and what's happened to my wonderful city for so many years.
I loved it.
It was vibrant.
It's dying.
Everyone's leaving New York.
Take a look at what New York has done.
The taxes are going to suffer from that because there's less taxpayers.
And I don't look at this in terms of the way he does.
Blue states and red states.
They're all the United States.
And look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus.
They're the red states.
They're the states.
They don't do that.
They're the states in the Midwest.
That's where the spike is occurring significantly.
But they're all Americans.
They're all Americans.
And what we have to do is say, wear these masks, number one, make sure we get the help that the businesses need that has money's already been passed to do that.
It's been out there since the beginning of the summer, and nothing's happened.
President, New York has lost more than 40,000 people, 11,000 people in nursing homes.
President Trump wants to say spike.
Take a look at what's happening in Pennsylvania, where they've had it Closed.
Take a look at what's happening with your friend in Michigan, where her husband's the only one allowed to do anything.
It's been like a prison.
Now it was just ruled unconstitutional.
Take a look at North Carolina.
They're having spikes and they've been closed and they're getting killed financially.
We can't let that happen, Joe.
You can't let that happen.
We have to open up and we understand the disease.
We have to protect our seniors.
We have to protect our elderly.
We have to protect especially our seniors with heart problems and diabetes problems.
And we will protect them.
We have the best testing in the world by far.
That's why we have so many cases.
Let me follow up with you before we move on to our next section, President Trump.
This week you called Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's best-known infectious disease expert, quote, a disaster.
You described him and other medical experts as, quote, idiots.
If you're not listening to them, who are you listening to right there?
I'm listening to all of them, including Anthony.
I get along very well with Anthony.
But he did say, don't wear masks.
He did say, as you know, this is not going to be a problem.
I think he's a Democrat, but that's okay.
He said, this is not going to be a problem.
He doesn't wear a mask, and he doesn't wear a mask.
When Joe says that, I said, Anthony Fauci said, and others, and many others, and I'm not knocking him a lot.
Nobody knew.
Look, nobody knew what this thing was.
Nobody knew where it was coming from, what it was.
We've learned a lot.
But Anthony said, don't wear masks.
Now he wants to wear masks.
Anthony also said, if you look back, exact words.
Here's his exact words.
This is no problem.
This is going to go away soon.
So he's allowed to make mistakes.
He happens to be a good person.
Vice President Biden, your response quickly, and then we're going to move on to the next section.
My response is that think about what the president knew in January and didn't tell the American people.
He was told this was a serious virus, a spread in the air, and it was much worse than, much worse than the flu.
He went on record and said to one of your colleagues recorded that in fact he knew how dangerous it was, but he didn't want to tell us.
He didn't want to tell us.
Americans don't angle.
But guess what?
In the meantime, we found out in the New York Times the other day that in fact his folks went to Wall Street and said this is a really dangerous thing.
And a memo out of that meeting, not from his administration, but from some of the brokers said, sell short because we've got to get moving.
It's a dangerous problem.
Well, this is the first time.
I'm going to give you 30 seconds to respond and then we'll go to the next one.
I don't know.
Somebody went to Wall Street.
You're the one that takes all the money from Wall Street.
I don't take it.
I have.
You have raised a lot of money.
Tremendous amounts of money.
And every time you raise money, deals are made.
I could raise so much more money as president and as somebody that knows most of those people, I could call the heads of Wall Street, the heads of every company in America.
I would blow away every record.
But I don't want to do that because it puts me in a bad position.
And then you bring up Wall Street.
You shouldn't be bringing up Wall Street because you're the one that takes the money from Wall Street, not me.
I could blow away your records that, like, you wouldn't believe.
We don't need money.
We have plenty of money.
In fact, we beat Hillary Clinton with a tiny fraction of the money that she was able to do.
All right, gentlemen, we're going to continue to do that.
Don't talk about average contribution, $43.
All right, we're going to move on to our next section, which is national security.
And I do want to start with the security of our elections and some breaking news from overnight.
Just last night, top intelligence officials confirmed again that both Russia and Iran are working to influence this.
Both countries have obtained U.S. voter registration information, these officials say, and Iran sent intimidating messages to Florida voters.
This question goes to you, Mr. Vice President.
What would you do to put an end to this two minutes uninterrupted?
I made it clear, and I asked everyone else, Mr. Biden, how do you feel about the G-DOG?
Any country, no matter who it is, that interferes in American elections, will pay a price.
They will pay a price.
And it's been over.
Did I tell you my theory about the emails?
No?
I think it was the Lincoln Project.
I think the Lincoln Project...
Forget saying Iran.
I hate when Russia did this.
Countries aren't people.
Who gives a shit?
Unless it was ordained by the prime minister or the president of that country.
Don't say the country did it.
I think the Lincoln Project are a bunch of amateurs.
They hired hackers.
The hackers either used an Iranian VPN or are in Iran, and they sent out the email.
Because the Lincoln Project was on us like shit on fleas, flies on shit.
For the days leading up to that, and then the second it happened, they were all about, look what the Prowboys are doing.
I'd like to see the timeline of them saying the Prowboys did this.
And when it was released, I bet it's real tight.
David Shortel tight?
His buddy.
David Shorteltite.
He's being used as a Russian pawn.
He's being fed information that is Russian, that is not true.
And then what happens?
Nothing happens.
And then you find out that everything that's going on here about Russia is wanting to make sure that I do not get elected the next president of the United States.
But Russia made the laptop?
I know them, and they know me.
I don't understand why this president is unwilling to take on Putin when he's actually paying bounties to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan, when he's engaged in activities that are trying to destabilize all of NATO.
I don't know why he doesn't do it, but it's worth asking the question.
Why isn't that being done?
Don't get into foreign policy, dude.
You're not good on foreign policy.
China is your Achilles heel.
Our sovereignty.
President Trump, same question to you.
Let me ask the question.
You're going to have two minutes to respond.
For two elections in a row now, there has been substantial interference from foreign adversaries.
What would you do in your next term to put an end to this?
Two minutes unless you're going to...
Well, let me respond to the first part, as Joe answered.
Joe got $3.5 million from Russia, and it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the mayor of Moscow's wife.
And you got $3.5 million.
Your family got $3.5 million.
And, you know, someday you're going to have to explain why did you get $3.5 million?
I never got any money from Russia.
I don't get money from Russia.
Now, about your thing last night, I knew all about that.
And through John, who is John Redliffe, who is fantastic, DNI, he said, the one thing that's common to both of them, they both want you to lose because there has been nobody tougher to Russia between the sanctions.
It was used to make Trump supporters look bad.
He said, if you vote, don't vote for Trump, we'll kill you.
What I've done with NATO, You know, I've got the NATO countries to put up an extra $130 billion, going to $420 billion a year.
That's to guard against Russia.
I sold, while he was selling pillows and sheets, I sold tank busters to Ukraine.
There has been nobody tougher on Russia than Donald Trump.
And I'll tell you, they were so bad.
They took over the submarine port.
You remember that very well.
During your term, during you and Barack Obama, they took over a big part of what should have been Ukraine.
You handed it to them.
But you were getting a lot of money from Russia.
They were paying you a lot of money, and they probably still are.
But now, with what came out today, it's even worse.
All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family.
And Joe, you were vice president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened.
And I think you owe an explanation to the American people.
Why is it?
Somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning.
And regardless of me, I think you have to clean it up and talk to the American people.
Maybe you can do it right now.
Vice President Biden, you may respond in a few seconds.
And then I do want to follow up on the election security.
I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life.
We learned that this president paid 50 times the tax secret bank account with China, does business in China, and in fact is talking about me taking money.
I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever.
Number one.
Number two, this is a president.
I have released all of my tax returns.
22 years.
Go look at them.
22 years of my tax return.
You have not released a single solitary year of your tax return.
What are you hiding?
Why are you unwilling?
The foreign countries are paying you a lot.
Russia is paying you a lot.
China is paying you a lot.
And your hotels and all your businesses all around the country, all around the world.
And China is building a new road to a golf course you have overseas.
So what's going on here?
Why don't release your tax return or stop talking about corruption?
President Trump, your response.
First of all, I called my accountants, underwrote it.
I'm going to release them as soon as we can.
I want to do it, and it'll show how successful, how great this company is, but much more important.
What have you already obtained?
People were saying $750.
I asked them a week ago, I said, what did I pay?
They said, sir, you prepaid tens of millions of dollars.
I prepaid my tax.
Tens over the last number of years.
Tens of millions of dollars I prepaid because at some point they think it's an estimate.
They think I may have to pay tax.
So I already prepaid it.
Nobody told me that.
Nobody told me that.
Excuse me.
And it wasn't written whenever they write this.
They keep talking about $750, which I think is a filing fee.
But let me just tell you, I prepaid millions and millions of dollars in taxes.
Number one.
Number two, I don't make money from China.
You do.
I don't make money from Ukraine.
You do.
I don't make money from Russia.
You made $3.5 million, Joe.
And your son gave you, they even have a statement that we have to give 10% to the big man.
You're the big man, I think.
I don't know.
Maybe you're not.
But you're the big man, I think.
Your son said we have to give 10% to the big man.
Joe, what's that all about?
It's terrible.
All right, gentlemen, I want to ask you both some questions about all of this.
I'm going to let you both respond very quickly.
You just said you spoke to your accountant about potentially releasing your taxes.
Did he tell you when you can release them?
Do you have any deadline for when you're going to release the taxes?
I get treated worse than the Tea Party got treated because I have a lot of people in there deep down in the IRS.
They treat me horribly.
We made a deal.
It was all settled until I decide to run for president.
I get treated very badly by the IRS, very unfairly.
But we had a deal all done.
As soon as we're completed with the deal, I want to release it.
But I have paid millions and millions of dollars, and it's worse than paying.
I paid in advance.
It's called pre-paying your taxes.
I paid in advance.
I want to ask you both about questions regarding your potential foreign entanglements and questions that have been raised to give you both a chance to talk about this more broadly.
Respond very quickly, and then I'll get to my question.
Why did he have been saying this for four years?
Show us.
Just show us.
Stop playing around.
Dude, you've been doing this.
He's been saying for four years.
Nobody knows it, Mr. President.
What they do know is you're not paying your taxes or you're paying taxes that are so low.
When last time he said what he paid, he said, I only pay that little because I'm smart.
I know how to game the system.
Come on.
That's good.
Come on, folks.
President Trump, and then I want to get away from that.
Coulter agrees with Biden on this.
I've put through a phony witch hunt for three years.
It started before I even got elected.
They spied on my campaign.
No president should ever have to go through what I went through.
Let me just say this.
Mueller and 18 angry Democrats and FBI agents all over the place spent $48 million.
They went through everything I had, including my tax returns, and they found absolutely no collusion and nothing wrong.
$48 million.
I guarantee you, if I spent $1 million on you, Joe, I could find plenty wrong.
Because the kind of things that you've done and the kind of monies that your family has taken, I mean, your brother made money in Iraq.
Millions of dollars.
Your other brother is a lot of people.
This is covering the plot against the president, by the way.
And they say you get some of it.
And you do that.
You have houses all over the place.
You live very well.
All right, gentlemen, let me just ask some questions about this broadly.
Vice President Biden, there have been questions about the work your son has done in China and for a Ukrainian energy company when you were voting for the United States.
I'm shocked to bring this up.
Was anything about those relationships inappropriate or unethical?
Nothing was unethical.
Here's what the deal.
Here's what the deal.
Here's what the deal is.
Here's what we are.
We had this whole question about whether or not, because he was on the board, I later learned of a Burisma, a company, that somehow I had done something wrong.
Yet, every single solitary person when he was going through his impeachment, testifying under oath who worked for him, said, I did my job impeccably.
I carried out U.S. policy.
Not one single solitary thing was out of line.
Not a single thing.
Number one.
Number two, the guy who got in trouble in Ukraine was this guy trying to bribe the Ukrainian government to say something negative about me.
He would not do and did not do because it never, ever, ever happened.
My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, what are you talking about?
China.
I have not had it.
The only guy made money from China is this guy.
He's the only one.
Oh, he worked in China, developing, real estate.
President Trump.
Let me ask my question to you.
Could I just son, didn't have a job for a long time, was sadly no longer in the military service.
I won't get into that.
And he didn't have a job.
As soon as he became vice president, Barisma, not the best reputation in the world, I hear they paid him $183,000 a month.
Listen to this.
$183,000.
And they gave him a $3 million upfront payment.
And he had no energy.
I'm going to let the vice president respond to that quickly, and then I need to schedule a question to you.
Very quickly.
No basis for that.
Everybody investigated that.
No one said anything he did was wrong in Ukraine.
Okay, President Trump, this is for you.
Since you took off the business, you've been invested from your business.
You've personally promoted your properties abroad.
A report this week, which was referenced, does indicate that your company has a bank account in China.
So how can voters know that you don't have any foreign conflicts of interest?
I have many bank accounts, and they're all listed, and they're all over the place.
I mean, I was a businessman.
You have a build in China.
You have a bank account in China.
It makes it easy to wire money.
Which is, everybody knows about it.
It's listed.
The bank account was in 2013.
That's what it was.
It was closed in 2015, I believe.
And then I decided, because I was going to do, I was thinking about doing a deal in China like millions of other people.
I was thinking about it.
And I decided I'm not going to do it.
Didn't like it.
I decided not to do it.
Had an account open, and I closed it.
Okay.
Excuse me.
And then, unlike him, where he's vice president and he does business, I then decided to run for president after that.
That was before.
So I closed it before I even ran for president, let alone became president.
Big difference.
He is the vice president of the United States, and his son, his brother, and his other brother are getting rich.
They're like a vacuum cleaner.
They're sucking up.
President Trump's shaking.
We do need to move on.
Everyone's winning after.
That's a sign of a good debate because you go, Biden's winning, Trump's winning, Biden's winning, Trump's winning.
What I'd make China do is play by the international rules, not like he has done.
He has caused the deficit of China to go up, not down with China.
Up, not down.
We are making sure that in order to do business in China, you have to give all your intellectual property.
You have to have a partner in China.
It's 51%.
We would not do that at all, number one.
Number two, we're in a situation where China would have to play by the rules internationally as well.
When I met with Xi and when I was still vice president, he said, we're setting up air identification zones in the South China Sea.
You can't fly through them.
I said, we're going to fly through them.
We just flew B-52, B-1 bombers through it.
We're not going to pay attention.
They have to play by the rules.
And what's he do?
He embraces guys like the thugs in North Korea and the Chinese president and Putin and others.
What's his name, the North Korean guy?
The guy.
The thing.
The guy.
We make up only...
25.
What's his name?
25.
Oh, you want to know it?
Kim Jong-hoon.
No.
We need to be having the rest of our friends with us saying to China, these are the rules.
You play by them or you're going to pay the price for not paying by them economically.
That's the way I will run it.
And that's what we did in upholding steel tariffs and a range of other things when we were president and vice president.
All right, and let's talk about North Korea.
No, I have to respond to that.
Okay, very quickly.
And then we're going to move on to North Korea.
We're going to have to $1 billion and a half dollars from China to spending 10 minutes in office and being in Air Force 2.
Number one.
Number two, there's a very strong email talking about your family wanting to make $10 million a year for introductions.
President Trump, on China policy, though, what specifically are you going to do?
What specifically are you going to do to make China pay?
You've said you're going to pay.
China is paying.
They're paying billions and billions of dollars.
I just gave $28 billion.
I just gave $28 billion to our farmers.
Taxpayers.
China?
What?
Taxpayers' money.
Do you know who the taxpayer is?
It's called China.
China paid $28 billion, and you know what they did to come?
They devalued their currency, and they also paid up.
And you know who got the money?
Our farmers, our great farmers, because they were targeted.
You never charged them anything.
Also, I charged them 25% on dumped steel because they were killing our steel industry.
We were not going to have a steel industry.
And now we have a steel industry.
Okay, Vice President Biden, your response, please.
My response is, look, this isn't about, there's a reason why he's bringing up all this malarkey.
There's a reason for it.
He doesn't want to talk about the substantive issues.
It's not about his family and my family.
It's about your family.
And your family's hurting badly.
If you're making less than, if you're a middle-class family, you're getting hurt badly right now.
You're sitting at the kitchen table this morning deciding, well, we can't get new tires, they're ball because we have to wait another month or so.
Or are we going to be able to pay the mortgage?
Or who's going to tell her she can't go back to community college?
They're the decisions you're making.
And the middle-class families like I grew up in Scranton and Claymont.
They're in trouble.
We should be talking about your families, but that's the last thing he wants to talk about.
I want to talk about North Korea.
I do want to turn to 10 seconds, Mr. President.
Let's get off this China thing.
And then he looks, the family, around the table, everything.
Just a typical politician when I see that.
Let's talk about North Korea.
Not a typical politician.
I like the impression that China.
Let's talk around sitting around the table.
Come on, Joe, you can do better.
We're going to talk about North Korea now.
President Trump, you've met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un three times.
You've talked about your beautiful letters with him.
You've touted the fact that there hasn't been a war or a long-range missile test.
And yet North Korea recently rolled out its biggest ever intercontinental ballistic missile and continues to develop its nuclear arsenal.
Do you see that as a reference of the relationship you forged?
Just 30 seconds here because we need to get on to the next one.
So when I met with Barack Obama, we sat in the White House right at the beginning, had a great conversation.
It was supposed to be 15 minutes and it was well over an hour.
He said the biggest problem we have is North Korea.
He indicated we will be in a war with North Korea.
Guess what?
It would be a nuclear war.
And he does have plenty of nuclear capability.
In the meantime, I have a very good relationship with him.
Different kind of a guy, but he probably thinks the same thing about me.
We have a different kind of a relationship.
We have a very good relationship, and there's no war.
And you know, about two months ago, he broke into a certain area.
They said, oh, there's going to be trouble.
I said, no, they're not, because he's not going to do that.
And I was right.
Look, instead of being in a war where millions of people, Seoul, you know, is 25 miles away, millions and millions, 32 million people in Seoul.
Millions of people would be dead right now.
President Trump, that's 30 seconds.
Vice President Biden, to you.
It's pretty heavy.
Because I'd make it clear, which we were making clear to China, they had to be part of the deal.
Because here's the reason I made it clear, and as a spokesperson in the administration, that they said, why are you moving your missile defense up so close?
Why are you moving more forces here?
Why are you continuing to do military maneuvers with South Korea?
I said, because North Korea is a problem.
And we're going to continue to do it so we can control them.
We're going to make sure we can control them and make sure they cannot hurt us.
And so if you want to do something about it, step up and help.
If not, it's going to continue.
What has he done?
He's legitimized North Korea.
He's talked about his good buddy who's a thug, a thug, and he talks about how we're better off.
And they have much more capable missiles, able to reach U.S. territory much more easily than ever did before.
Let me follow up with you, Vice President Biden.
You've said you wouldn't meet with Kim Jong-un without preconditions.
Are there any conditions under which you would meet with him?
On the condition that he would agree that he would be drawing down his nuclear capacity to get that the Korean Peninsula should be a nuclear-free zone.
All right, let's move on to American failures.
Very quickly, 10 seconds, President.
They tried to meet with him.
He wouldn't do it.
He didn't like Obama.
He didn't like him.
He wouldn't do it.
Okay, I've got to give him a response to that before.
And it's okay.
You know what?
North Korea, we're not in a war.
We have a good relationship.
You know, people don't understand.
Having a good relationship with leaders of other countries.
We have a lot of questions to get to.
We had a good relationship with Hitler before he, in fact, invaded Europe, the rest of Europe.
Come on.
The reason he would not meet with President Obama is because President Obama said, we're going to talk about denuclearization.
We're not going to legitimize you, and we're going to continue to put stronger and stronger sanctions on you.
That's why he wouldn't meet with us.
And it didn't.
Let's move on and talk about American.
President Trump?
Okay, we did.
He left me a mess.
North Korea was a mess.
And in fact, if you remember the first two or three months, there was a very dangerous period in my first three months before we sort of worked things out a little bit.
They left us a mess.
And Obama would be, I think, the first to say it was the single biggest problem he thought that our country.
Okay, let's move on to American families and the economy.
One of the issues that's most important to them is health care, as you both know.
Today there was a key vote on a new Supreme Court justice, Amy Coney Barrett, and health care is at the center of her confirmation fight.
Over 20 million Americans get their health insurance through the Affordable Care Act.
It's headed to the Supreme Court, and your administration, Mr. President, is advocating for the court to overturn it.
If the Supreme Court does overturn that law, those 20 million Americans could lose their health insurance almost overnight.
So what would you do if those people have their health insurance taken away?
You have two minutes uninterrupted.
First of all, I've already done something that nobody thought was possible.
Through the legislature, I terminated the individual mandate.
That is the worst part of Obamacare, as we call it.
The individual mandate where you have to pay a fortune for the privilege of not having to pay for bad health insurance.
I terminated.
It's gone.
Now it's in court because Obamacare is no good.
But then I made a decision.
Run it as well as you can to my people, great people.
Run it as well as you can.
I could have gone the other route and made everybody very unhappy.
They ran it.
Premiums are down.
Everything's down.
Here's the problem.
No matter how well you run it, it's no good.
What we'd like to do is terminate it.
We have the individual mandate done.
I don't know that it's going to work.
If we don't win, we will have to run it and we'll have Obamacare, but it'll be better run.
But it no longer is Obamacare because without the individual mandate, it's much different.
Preexisting conditions will always stay.
What I would like to do is a much better health care, much better, will always protect people with pre-existing.
So I'd like to terminate Obamacare, come up with a brand new, beautiful health care.
The Democrats will do it because there'll be tremendous pressure on them and we might even have the House by that time.
And I think we are going to win the House, okay?
And you'll see, but I think we're going to win the House.
But come up with a better health care.
This is why this election is so important, because we can permanently repair America, and then it won't matter who's president for a long time.
Joe Biden is going to terminate all of those policies.
These are people that love their health care, people that have been successful, middle-income people, been successful.
They have 180 million plans, 180 million people, families.
Under what he wants to do, which will basically be socialized medicine, he Won't even have a choice.
They want to terminate 180 million plans.
We have done an incredible job on health care, and we're going to do even better.
Okay, Vice President Biden, yes, this is for you.
Your health care plan calls for building on Obamacare.
So my question is: what is your plan?
If the law is ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, you have two minutes uninterrupted.
What I'm going to do is pass Obamacare with a public option.
It will become Biden Care.
The public option is an option that says that if you, in fact, do not have the wherewithal to be, if you qualify for Medicaid and you do not have the wherewithal in your state to get Medicaid, you automatically are enrolled, providing competition for insurance companies.
That's what's going to happen.
Secondly, we're going to make sure we reduce the premiums and reduce drug prices.
There's competition that doesn't exist now by allowing the Medicare to negotiate drug prices with the insurance companies.
Thirdly, the idea that I want to eliminate private insurance, the reason why I had such a fight with 20 candidates for the nomination was I support private insurance.
That's why I didn't, not one single person with private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan, nor did they under Obamacare.
They did not lose their insurance unless they chose they wanted to go to something else.
Lastly, we're going to make sure we're in a situation that we actually protect pre-existing.
There's no way he can protect preexisting conditions.
None.
Zero.
This is so boring.
Here's the big problem with America and healthcare.
We have unlimited fatties and unlimited illegals.
Go outside.
Every time you leave New York City and some rich suburb, you realize we have a severe obesity problem.
We are so fucking fat, it's disgusting.
Jesus, when I go to Disneyland or the airport, you see people using wheelchairs or rascals because they can't fucking walk because they overindulge themselves.
We also have 30 million illegals who can just show up in an ER, in front of ER, and say, hey, I have a piece of rebar through my arm.
We have to work on that.
We have to spend the money.
They don't have the money.
They don't have insurance.
They're not even legal.
But by our laws, it's illegal to let them die.
So those two things make us unique.
People keep comparing us to Canada and Britain and Scandinavia, but they don't have the fatness and the illegalness that we have.
What's the solution?
I don't fucking know.
But the free market's better at everything, so let's leave it with them.
It does good for dogs.
There's a public option that people can choose.
My dog has better health care than I do.
Look, the difference between the present and I think health care is not a privilege, it's a right.
Everyone should have the right to have affordable health care.
And I am very proud of my plan.
It's gotten endorsed by all the major labor unions as well as a whole range of other people who, in fact, are concerned in the medical field.
This is something that's going to save people's lives, and this is going to give people an opportunity.
So the unions like your socialist plan?
Who knew?
Because you've lost your health insurance your company's gone under.
We have to provide health insurance for people at an affordable rate, and that's what I do.
President Trump.
He was there for 47 years.
He didn't do it.
He was now there as vice president for eight years.
And it's not like it was 25 years ago.
It was three and three quarters.
It was just a little while ago, right?
Less than four years ago.
He didn't do anything.
He didn't do it.
He wants socialized medicine.
And it's not that he wants it.
He's vice president.
Computer, how old is Joe Biden?
More liberal than Bernie Sanders and the English.
Bernie Sanders wants it.
That's enough.
We're not going to have fracking.
We're going to stop fracking.
We're going to stop fracking.
Then he goes to Pennsylvania after he gets a nomination where he got very lucky to get it.
And he goes to Pennsylvania and he says, oh, we're going to have fracking.
And you never ask that question.
And by the way, so far, I respect very much the way you're handling this.
I have to say.
But somebody should ask the question.
He goes for a year.
There will be a lot of people who are going to be able to do that.
We have a number of topics for the next year.
We're going to get to it.
We're going to get to it.
It's the same thing with socialized health services.
Vice President, your response, please.
My response is people deserve to have affordable health care.
You just said that.
Period, period, period.
And the Biden care proposal will, in fact, provide for that affordable health care, lower premiums.
What we're going to do is it's going to cost some money.
It's going to cost over $750 billion over 10 years to do it.
And they're going to have lower premiums.
You can buy into the better plans, the cheaper plans, lower your premiums, deal with unexpected billing, and have your drug prices drop significantly.
He keeps talking about it.
He hasn't done a thing for anybody on health care.
Not a thing.
Then I want to talk about that.
When he says public option, he's talking about socialized medicine and health care.
When he talks about a public option, he's talking about destroying your Medicare and destroying your Social Security.
And this whole country will come down.
You know, Bernie Sanders tried it in his state.
He tried it in his state.
His governor was a very liberal governor.
They want to make it work.
Okay.
Let's hear Vice President Biden respond.
It does work.
Vice President Biden responded.
He's a very confused guy.
He thinks he's running against somebody else.
He's running against Joe Biden.
I beat all those other people because I disagreed with them.
Joe Biden he's running against.
And the idea that we're in a situation that they're going to destroy Medicare, this is the guy that the actuary at Medicare said if in fact, at Social Security, if in fact he continues to withhold the tax on Social Security, Society will be bankrupt by 2023 with no way to make up for it.
This is the guy who's tried to cut Medicare.
So I don't know.
I mean, the idea that Donald Trump is lecturing me on Social Security and Medicare?
Come on.
Come on.
He tried to hurt Social Security years ago.
Years ago.
Go back and look at the records.
He tried to hurt Social Security years ago.
Mr. President, I have to move on to the next question.
He said the stock market is not going to have time to talk about it If I'm elected.
If he's elected, the stock market will crash.
Okay, let's move on to the next question.
Look, the idea that the stock market is booming is his only measure of what's happening.
Where I come from in Scranton and Claymont, the people don't live off of the stock market.
Just in the market.
Yeah, they do.
What are you talking about?
Three years during this crisis, the billionaires in this country made, according to Wall Street, $700 billion more dollars.
Well, Wall Street.
$700 billion more dollars because that's his only measure.
What happens to the ordinary people out there?
What happens to them?
Let's talk about the money.
401k on Capitol Hill.
We're going to move on.
401ks are through the roof.
She's losing control.
Through the roof.
And he doesn't come from Scranton.
That's like one of the...
He lived there for a short period of time before he even knew.
We're going to move on to the next question.
The people of Pennsylvania.
Let me move on to my next question, gentlemen.
As of tonight, more than 12 million people are out of work.
And as of tonight, 8 million more Americans have fallen into pressure.
Because we overdid the COVID thing.
Every day.
Those hit hardest are women and people of color.
They see Washington fighting over a relief bill.
Mr. President, why haven't you been able to get them the help they need?
30 seconds here.
Because Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve it.
I do.
But you're the president.
I do, but I still have to get.
Unfortunately, that's one of the reasons I think we're going to take over the House because of her.
Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve anything because she'd love to have some victories on a date called November 3rd.
Nancy Pelosi does not want to approve it.
We are ready, willing, and able to do something.
Don't forget, we've already approved three plans, and it's gone through, including the Democrats, in all fairness.
This one she doesn't want.
It's near the election because she thinks it helps her politically.
I think it hurts her politically.
All right, Mr. Vice President McCarthy.
It does hurt her politically, but in the United States Senate, it also hurts you.
He will not be able to pass it.
He does not have Republican votes.
Why isn't he talking to his Republican friends?
Let me follow up with you, Vice President.
We made it.
Let me ask Vice President Biden a question.
You are the leader of the Democratic Party.
Why have you not pushed the Democrats to get a deal for the American people?
Oh, I have, and they have pushed it.
Look, they passed this act all the way back in the beginning of the summer.
This is like it's not new.
It's been out there.
This HEROES Act has been sitting there.
And look, it was happening.
When I was in charge of the Recovery Act with $800 billion, I was able to get $145 billion to local communities that have to balance their budgets and states that have to balance their budgets and then have to fire firefighters, teachers,
first responders, law enforcement officers, so they could keep their cities and counties running.
He will not support that.
They have not done a thing for them.
And Ms. McConnell said, let them go bankrupt.
Let them go bankrupt.
Come on.
What's the matter with you?
The bill that was passed in the House was a bailout of badly run, high crime, Democrat, all run by Democrats, cities and states.
It was a way of getting a lot of money, billions and billions of dollars to these states.
It was also a way of getting a lot of money from our people's pockets to people that come into our country illegally.
We were going to take care of everything for them.
And what that does, and I'd love to do that, I'd love to help them, but what that does, everybody all over the world will start pouring into our country.
We can't do it.
This was a way of taking care of them.
This was a way of spending on things that had nothing to do with COVID, as per your question.
But it was really a big bailout for badly run Democrat cities and states.
If I get elected, I'm not going to, I'm running as a proud Democrat, but I'm going to be an American probably.
I don't see red states and blue states.
What I see is America and the United States.
And folks, every single state out there finds themselves in trouble.
They're going to start laying off, whether they're red or blue, cops, firefighters, first responders, teachers, because they have to balance their budget.
And the founders were smart.
They allowed the federal government a deficit spend to compensate for the United States of America.
I want to talk about the minimum wage, gentlemen.
Mr. Vice President, we are talking a lot about struggling small businesses and business owners these days.
Do you think this is the right time to ask them to raise the minimum wage?
You, of course, support a $15 federal minimum wage.
I do, because I think one of the things we're going to have to do is we're going to have to bail them out, too.
We should be bailing them out.
He's talking a lot about spending money.
We've got one in six of them going up and taxing us.
They passed a package that allows us to be able to call PPP.
Money is supposed to go to help them do everything from organize how they can deal with their businesses being opened safely.
Schools, how they can make classrooms smaller, how they can hire more teachers, how they can put ventilation systems in.
They need the help.
The businesses as well as the schools need the help.
But these guys will not help them.
It's not giving them any of the money.
We are going to move on to the next step.
There we go.
That is the crux between right and left.
They need the help.
I think it should be a state option.
Alabama is different than New York.
New York is different from Vermont.
Every state is different.
It should be a state option.
You said very important.
It's very important.
We have to help our small businesses.
How are you helping your small businesses when you're forcing wages?
What's going to happen, and what's been proven to happen, is when you do that, these small businesses fire many of their employees.
You said how recently you would consider raising the federal minimum wage to 15%.
What are McDonald's in Manhattan?
Half the time you're just pushing buttons.
That's still the case.
And I would consider it to an extent.
But I really love in a second administration, but not to a level that's going to put all these businesses out of business.
It should be a state option.
Look, in different places, I know different places.
They're all different.
Some places, $15 is not so bad.
In other places, other states.
$15 is not a bad thing.
Okay, President Trump, thank you.
Quick response, Vice President Biden.
Two jobs.
One job be below poverty.
People are making six, seven, eight bucks an hour.
These first responders, we all clap for as they come down the street because they've allowed us to make it.
What's happening?
They deserve a minimum wage of $15.
Anything below that puts you below the poverty level.
And there is no evidence that when you raise the minimum wage, businesses go out of business.
There's Plenty of evidence of that.
We're going to talk about immigration.
We're going to talk about immigration now, gentlemen, and we're going to talk about families within this context.
Mr. President, your administration separated children from their parents at the border, at least 4,000 kids.
You've since reversed your zero tolerance policy, but the United States can't locate the parents of more than 500 children.
So how many families ever brought?
They're not their children.
Children are brought here by coyotes and lots of bad people, cartels, and they're brought here, and they used to use them to get into our country.
We now have as strong a border as we've ever had.
We're over 400 miles of brand new wall.
You see the numbers, and we let people in, but they have to come in legally, and they come in through my family.
But how will you reunite the kids?
Let me just tell you.
They built cages.
You know, they used to say, I built the cages.
And then they had a picture in a certain newspaper.
And it was a picture of these horrible cages.
And they said, look at these cages.
President Trump built them.
And then it was determined they were built in 2014.
That was him.
Do you have a plan to reunite the kids?
Yes, we're working on it very.
We're trying to get them.
The kids are garbage in Mexico.
Without the parents, they couldn't.
The cartels use them as like dogs, basically.
They use them as spies, as lookouts.
Joe Biggs, when he was down there, said, if you see a kid skateboarding near your motel, you're fucked.
Wow.
Because he was sent there to watch you.
To make it a disincentive to come to begin with.
Bae, real tough.
We're really strong.
And guess what?
They cannot, it's not coyotes didn't bring them over.
Their parents were with them.
No, they weren't their parents.
And it makes us a laughing stock and violates every notion of who we are as a nation.
Having a border?
Let me ask you a final question.
Kristen, they did it.
We changed the policy.
Your response to that?
We changed it.
We did not.
They built the cages.
Who built the cages, Joe?
Let's talk about what they did.
Let's talk about what we're talking about.
What happened?
Parents were ripped.
Their kids were ripped from separated.
And now they cannot find over 500 sets of those parents, and those kids are alone.
Nowhere to go.
Yeah.
Nowhere to go.
Thanks.
Way to go, Mexico.
Sending orphans up.
Person, I will say this.
They went down.
We brought reporters, everything.
They are so well taken care of.
They're in facilities that were so clean.
But some of them haven't been reunited.
But just ask one question.
Because they're orphans, you stupid bitch.
I'd love you to ask of that.
Who built the cages?
Let me ask about your immigration policy, Mr. Vice President.
The Obama administration was able to deliver immigration reform, which had been a key promise during the administration.
It also presided over record deportations as well as family detentions at the border before changing course.
So why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now?
Because it made a mistake.
It took too long to get it right.
It took too long to get it right.
Correct.
I'll be President of the United States, not Vice President of the United States.
And the fact is, I've been...
So Obama fucked up?
Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people.
And all of those so-called dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country.
I don't think most Americans like that because they recognize it means more immigrants.
Your parents are taking you across the Rio Grande River.
You smell magnificent.
And it's illegal.
And you say, oh, no, mom, leave me here.
I'm not going to go with you.
They've been here.
Many of them are modeled.
Over 20,000 of them are first responders out there taking care of people during this crisis.
We owe them.
We owe them.
President Still had eight years to do what he said he was going to do.
And I've changed without having a specific.
We got rid of catch and release.
We got rid of a lot of horrible things that they put in and that they lived with.
But he had eight years he was vice president.
He did nothing except build cages to keep people.
Did you ever ride your bike outside in the snow?
Merely.
What?
I used to be a bike messenger in Montreal in the winter.
And when I would come back and I would go piss or something, Biden is what my dick looked like.
And guess what?
They showed up.
He looks like a cold dick.
This is the first president in the history of the United States of America that anybody seeking asylum has to do it in another country.
That's never happened before in America.
That's never happened before in America.
You come to the United States and you make your case that I seek asylum based on the following premise, why I deserve it under American law.
Yeah, let's be like Europe.
Let's take in a bunch of Syrian refugees.
It's gone great for them.
Let's take in some beheaders from Islam.
Catch and release is a disaster.
A murderer would come in.
A rapist would come in.
A very bad person would come in.
We would take their name.
We have to release them into our country.
And then you say they come back.
Less than 1% of the people come back.
We have to send ICE out and Border Patrol out to find them.
We would say we have two years, three years.
We're going to give you a court case.
You need Perry Mason.
We're going to give you a court case.
When you say they come back, they don't come back, Joe.
They never come back.
Only the really, I hate to say this, but those with the lowest IQ, they might come back.
Okay, President Trump, let's give Vice President Biden a chance to respond, and then we're going to move on to the next one.
Vice President Biden, your response.
Know the law.
What he's telling you is simply not true.
Well, check it out.
They don't come back.
Check it out.
All right, let's move on.
But we don't have to worry about it because they terminated it, so we don't have to worry about it.
Let's move on to the next one.
You've got 525 kids not knowing where, in God's name, they're going to be in the next one.
Because they're orphans.
All right.
Let's talk about that.
They don't have any parents.
Which is race in America.
Parents they give the decision.
Excruciating.
Can I be up there?
Parents who feel they have no choice but to prepare their children for the chance that they could be targeted, including by the police, for no reason other than the color of Their skin.
Mr. Vice President, in the next two minutes, I want you to speak directly to these families.
Do you understand why these parents fear for their children?
I do.
I do.
They're wrong.
My daughter is a social worker, and she's written a lot about this.
She has her graduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania.
This is why I could never be a politician, because I would just get up there and say, the talk is child abuse.
You're telling your kid they live in a Klan rally.
You're making them petrified of everything around them.
The talk is abusive.
Tell your children that you live in a world where blacks have no place are they more free.
No place are gays more free.
You're safe.
Cops killed 10 unarmed black people last year.
Two of them were not attacking the cops.
Two out of 331 million is a pretty good number.
Don't have a hoodie on when you go across the street.
Making sure that you, in fact, if you get pulled over, yes, sir, no, sir, hands on top of the wheel, because you are, in fact, the victim, whether you're a person making a child of a $300,000 a year person or someone who's on food stamps.
The fact of the matter is, there is institutional racism in America.
And we have always said that's going to get him a lot of women votes.
All men and women are created equal.
But guess what?
We have never, ever lived up to, but we've all constantly been moving the needle further and further to inclusion, not exclusion.
This is the first president to come along and says that's the end of that.
We're not going to do that anymore.
We have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better access to the process.
That's the end of that.
I don't want any more inclusion.
We have to have access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses.
All the things we can do, and I've laid out a clear plan as to how to do those things, just to give people a shot.
It's about accumulating the ability to have wealth as well as it is to be free from violence.
President Trump, same question to you, and let me remind you of the question.
I would like you to speak directly to these families.
Do you understand why these parents fear for their children?
Yes, I do.
And again, he's been in government 47 years.
He never did a thing except in 1994 when he did such harm to the black community.
And they were called, and he called them, super predators.
And he said that.
He said it, super predators.
And they have never lived that down.
1994.
Joe, just say not true.
Every time you hear something you don't like.
Nobody has done more for the black community.
Oh my God, I said a great idea for a t-shirt.
I'll shut up for a sec.
With the exception of Abraham Lincoln, possible exception, but the exception of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what I've done.
Criminal justice reform, Obama and Joe didn't do it.
I don't even think they tried because they had no chance at doing it.
They might have wanted to do it, but if you had to see the arms, I had to twist to get that done.
It was not a pretty picture, and everybody knows it, including some very liberal people that cried in my office.
They cried in the Oval Office.
Two weeks later, they're out saying, gee, we have to defeat him.
Criminal justice reform, prison reform, opportunity zones with Tim Scott, a great senator from South Carolina.
He came in with this anti-people don't talk about it.
Tremendous investment is being made.
Biggest beneficiary, the black and Hispanic communities, and then historically black colleges and universities.
After three years of coming to the office, I love some of those guys.
They were great.
They came into the office and they said, I said, what are you doing?
After three years, I said, why do you keep coming back?
Because we have no funding.
I said, you don't have to come back every year.
We have to come back.
Because President Obama would never give them long-term funding.
And I did.
10-year long-term funding.
And I gave them more money than they asked for because I said, I think you need more.
And I said, the only bad part about this is I may never see you again because I got very friendly with them.
And they like me and I like them.
But I saved historically black colleges and universities.
Okay, and we're going to talk about both of your records, but your response to that, Vice President.
My response to that is I never ever said what he accused me of saying.
The fact of the matter is in 2000, though, after the crime bill had been in the law for a while, this is a guy who said, the problem with the crime bill, there's not enough people in jail.
There's not enough people in jail.
And go on my website, get the quote, the date, when he said it.
Not enough people.
He talked about marauding gangs, young gangs, and the people who were going to maraud our cities.
This is a guy who in the Central Park five, five innocent black kids, he continued to push for making sure that they got the death penalty.
None of them were guilty of what the crime was.
They were all guilty, you fucking cuck.
Look, and talk about he, granted, he did in fact let 20 people, he commuted 20 people sentences.
We commuted over a thousand people's sentences.
Over a thousand.
The very law he's talking about is a law that in fact initiated.
So Hillary, he didn't say super predators.
He said there's predators on our streets, and then Hillary called them super predators.
He said the jungle thing, right?
He said, I don't want my kids in a racial jungle.
And one of these things we should be doing, there should be no, no minimum mandatories in the law.
That's why I'm offering $20 billion to states to change their state laws to eliminate minimum mandatories and set up drug courts.
No one should be going to jail because they have a drug problem.
They should be going to rehabilitation, not greedy.
I agree with you, Joe.
That's a point for Joe.
But why didn't he do it four years ago?
Yes, four years ago, even less than that.
Why didn't he do it?
And you were vice president.
You keep talking about all these things you're going to do, and you're going to do this.
But you were there just a short time ago, and you guys did nothing.
We did.
You know, Joe, I ran because of you.
I ran because of Barack Obama, because you did a poor job.
If I thought you did a good job, I would have never run.
I would have never run.
I ran because of you.
I'm looking at you now.
You're a politician.
I ran because of you.
All right, Vice President Biden, your response to that.
And then I do have some questions for both of you.
Well, I tell you what.
I hope he does look at me because what's happening here is you know who I am.
You know who he is.
You know his character.
You know my character.
You know our reputations for honor and telling the truth.
I am anxious to have this race.
I am anxious to see this take place.
I am anxiety.
I'm anxious too.
Our character is on the ballot.
Look at us closely.
Let me ask some followers to please respond and then we're going to have to talk about it.
If this is true about Russia, Ukraine, China, other countries, Iraq, if this is true, then he's a corrupt politician.
So don't give me the stuff about how you're this innocent baby.
Joe, they're calling you a corrupt politician.
Nobody is.
President Trump, I want to stay on the issue of race.
We're talking about the laptop from hell.
President Trump is a little bit of a vision.
130 million.
130 million people vote.
You mentioned the laptop from hell.
President Trump.
I'm going to have to respond to that, please.
Because look, there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a race.
I don't think the laptop took.
Oh, really?
Mention it again.
Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage.
Nobody believes it except his and his good friend Runa Gianni.
You mean the laptop is now another Russia-Russia-Russia hoax?
And that's exactly what he's doing.
This is where he's going.
The laptop is fake.
Are the pictures photoshopped?
You have to be kidding.
Here we go again, the Russia.
We're going to continue on the issue of race.
Mr. President, you've described it.
So now the laptop is in.
It's officially in.
It's in place.
You've shared a video of a man chanting white power to millions of your supporters.
You've said that black professional athletes exercising their First Amendment rights should be fired.
What do you say to Americans who say that kind of language from a president is continuing to do that?
White power?
What?
He said the first time in Polish Lives Matter.
They were chanting pigs in a blanket, talking about police.
Pigs, pigs, talking about our police.
Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
I said, that's a horrible thing.
And they were marching down the street.
And that was my first time.
The white power thing was, I think he retweeted something he thought was funny.
And if you check that guy's account, you see white power shit.
I have relationships with all people.
I think I have great relationships with all people.
I am the least racist person in this room.
What do you say to Americans who are concerned by that rhetoric?
I mean, I don't know what to say.
I got criminal justice reform done and prison reform and opportunity zones.
I took care of black colleges and universities.
I don't know.
Mention Ice Cube and 50 Cent and Kanye.
I mean, they can say anything.
It's a very, it makes me sad because I am the least racist person.
I can't even see the audience because it's so dark.
But I don't care who's in the audience.
I'm the least racist person.
You can't see black people because it's too dark.
I see teeth.
I see eyeballs and teeth.
If any of them could go like that, I might be able to see.
One of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history.
He pours fuel on every single racist fire.
Every single one.
Started off his campaign coming down the escalator saying he's going to get rid of those Mexican rapists.
He didn't say that Muslims were Muslims.
He has moved around and made everything worse across the board.
He says about the poor boys.
Last time we were on stage here, he said, I told him to stand down and stand ready.
Come on.
This guy is a dog with me.
Stand back and stand by.
It's the proud boys.
President Trump, I'm going to give you 10 seconds.
You made a reference to Abraham Lincoln.
Where did that come in?
I mean, where did that?
No, no.
I said, not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what I've done for the black community.
The poor boys.
I said, not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what I've done for the black community.
Poor boys.
Now, you have done nothing other than the crime bill.
It's kind of true.
He's empathizing for us.
I mean, you think of it.
Tens of thousands of people.
I thought of rich, proud boys.
Men, mostly in jail.
Let me ask Vice President Biden.
Let me ask you treated them very, very badly.
Just take a look at what's happening out there.
Vice President Biden, let me give you a chance to respond within this context.
Crime bills that you supported in the 80s and 90s contributed to the incarceration of tens of thousands of young black men who had small amounts of drugs in their possession.
They are sons, they are brothers, they're fathers, they're uncles, whose families are still in the middle of the country.
Very weak point for him.
It's an Achilles' heel.
One of the things is that in the 80s, we passed 100%, all 100 senators voted for it, a bill on drugs and how to deal with drugs.
It was a mistake.
I've been trying to change this since then, particularly the portion on COVID.
That's why I've been arguing that, in fact, we should not send anyone to jail for a pure drug offense.
They should be going into treatment across the board.
That's what we should be spending money on.
That's why I set up drug courts, which were never funded by our Republican friends.
They should not be going to jail for a drug or an alcohol problem.
They should be going into treatment.
Treatment.
That's what we've been trying to do.
But you didn't do that.
It's a nice notion.
It's my politics.
But it's not yours.
It was a mistake to pass those laws relating to drug.
But they were not in the crime bill.
But why didn't he get it done?
See, it's all talk, no action with these politicians.
Why didn't he get it done?
That's what I'm going to do with scores.
You were vice president, along with Obama as your president, your leader, for eight years.
Why didn't you get it done?
You had eight years to get it done.
Now you're saying you're going to get it done because you're all talking no action, Jim.
We got a lot of it done.
We released 38 prisoners.
We got 38,000 prisoners left in the federal government.
You got nothing done.
38,000 prisoners were released from federal prison.
There were over 1,000 people who were given clemency.
In fact, we're the ones that put in the legislation saying we could look at pattern and practice of police departments and what they were doing, how they were conducting themselves.
I could go on, but we began the process.
We began the process.
We lost an election.
That's why I'm running to win back that election and change his terrible policy.
He lost an election.
Oh, he means the devil.
Why didn't you do it in the eight years a short time ago?
Why didn't you do it?
You just said, I'm going to do that.
I'm going to do this.
You put tens of thousands of mostly black young men in prison.
Now you're saying you're going to undo that.
Why didn't you get it done?
You had eight years with Obama.
You know why, Joe?
Because you're all talk and no action.
All right, Vice President Biden, then we're going to move on to the next section.
We had a Republican Congress.
That's the answer.
Awkward.
You've got to talk him into it, Joe.
All right.
You've got to talk him into it.
We're going to move on to our next section.
Like I did with criminal justice reform.
I had to talk Democrats into it.
Gentlemen, we're running out of time, so we've got to get on to climate change.
That's the longest pause I've ever heard.
Ever.
In my life.
Nothing's been that silent for that much about.
Nothing in my life, ever.
Not the train, no movies.
Not walking down the street.
New jobs.
Not making spaghetti.
So we have the Trillion Trees program.
We have so many different programs.
I love the environment.
But what I want is the cleanest, crystal clear water, the cleanest air.
We have the best, lowest number in carbon emissions, which is a big standard that I notice Obama goes with all the time.
Not Joe.
I haven't heard Joe use the term because I'm not sure he knows what it represents or means, but I have heard Obama use it.
And we have the best carbon emission numbers in 30 years.
You worried about pollution?
Look at China.
India.
We are working so well with industry, but here's what we can't do.
Look at China.
How can we do it?
India doesn't pollute the world.
China pollutes the world.
India just literally shits on itself.
They're creating like four coal refineries a week or something.
The Paris Accord took us out.
India.
We were going to be on Rogan there.
And we were treated very unfairly.
When they put us in there, they did us a great disservice.
They were going to take away our businesses.
I will not sacrifice tens of millions of jobs, thousands and thousands of companies, because of the Paris Accord.
It was so unfair.
China doesn't kick in until 2030.
Russia goes back to a low standard.
And we kicked in right away, it would have destroyed our businesses.
So, you ready?
We have done an incredible job environmentally.
We have the cleanest air, the cleanest water, and the best carbon emission standards that we've seen in many, many years.
Vice President Biden.
And we haven't destroyed our industries.
Vice President Biden, two minutes to you, uninterrupted.
Climate change and climate warming.
Global warming is the next essential threat to humanity.
We have a moral obligation to deal with it.
And we're told by all the leading scientists in the world we don't have much time.
That's not true.
We're going to pass the point of no return within the next eight to ten years.
We're told by a lot of scientists you want to make money.
To limit emissions, will put us in a position where we're going to be in real trouble.
Here's where we have a great opportunity.
I was able to get both all the environmental organizations as well as labor, the people worried about jobs, to support my climate plan.
Because what it does, it will create millions of new, good-paying jobs.
We're going to invest in, for example, 50,000 charging stations on our highways so that we can own the electric car market of the future.
In the meantime, China is doing that.
We're going to be in a position where we're going to see to it that we're going to take 4 million existing billion buildings and 2 million existing homes and rent leak as much energy, saving barrels of oil in the process and creating significant number of jobs.
And by the way, the whole idea of what this is all going to do, it's going to create millions of jobs and it's going to clean the environment.
Our health and our jobs are at stake.
That's what's happening.
And right now, by the way, Wall Street firms indicated that my plan, my plan will in fact create 18.6 million jobs, 7 million more than his.
This is from Wall Street.
A plan that involves someone digging a ditch and then filling it back with dirt is not a good job.
That's me paying for someone to waste their time.
If you look at his plan, his environment plan, you know who developed it?
AOC plus 3.
They know nothing about the climate.
I mean, she's got a good line of stuff, but she knows nothing about the climate.
And they're all hopping through hoops for AOC plus 3.
Look, their real plan costs $100 trillion.
If we had the best year in the history of our country for 100 years, we would not even come close to a number like that.
When he says buildings, they want to take buildings down because they want to make bigger windows into smaller windows.
As far as they're concerned, if you had no window, it would be a lovely thing.
This is the craziest plan that anybody has ever seen.
And this wasn't done by smart people.
This wasn't done by anybody.
Frankly, I don't even know how it can be good politically.
They want to spend $100 trillion.
That's their real number.
He's trying to say it was six.
It's $100 trillion.
They want to knock down buildings and build new buildings with little, tiny, small windows.
And many other things.
And many other things.
Let me have the vice president respond, and we're running out of time, and we have a lot more questions to answer.
So let's hear from the vice president and a number of more questions.
I don't know where he comes from.
I don't know where he comes up with these numbers.
New York.
100.
Queens.
Did you hear him?
No.
He said Queens.
This plan was, this is planned endorsement.
What was he trying to do?
Did you hear that?
No, I was reading.
Joe was like, I don't know where he comes from.
And he said, Queens.
Oh, that's funny because that's going in the notes as a win.
I'm going to do a score at the end here of who wins.
Excuse me, solar energy and wind.
He thinks wind causes cancer.
Windmills is the fastest growing jobs, and they pay good prevailing wages, $45, $50 an hour.
We can't do anything cleaner if we go there.
They sit and rot.
President Trump is a good person.
Please respond, and then I have to say that.
we are energy independent for the first time.
We don't need all of these countries that we had to fight war over because we needed their energy.
We are energy independent.
I know more about wind than you do.
It's extremely expensive, kills all the birds, it's very intermittent, it's got a lot of problems, and they happen to make the windmills in both Germany and China.
And the fumes coming up, if you're a believer in carbon emission, the fumes coming up to make these massive windmills is more than anything that we're talking about with natural gas, which is very good.
Same with electric cars and the coal they need.
I love solar, but solar doesn't quite have it yet.
It's not powerful yet to really run our farm.
I lived in a solar home.
It was hell on earth.
To compete with the world.
So it's all a pipe dream.
But you know what we'll do?
We're going to have the greatest economy in the world.
You did the laundry at my place in Costa Rica.
You couldn't do anything else for the rest of the day because you used everything up.
Our fridge was powered with a propane tank because the solar panels couldn't handle it.
You said it on tape.
Yes, you did.
You did.
Put it on your website.
I'll put it on.
Put it on the website.
The fact of the matter is it's flat lying.
You rule out banning fracking.
I do rule out banning fracking because the answer we need other industries to transition to get to ultimately a complete zero emissions by 2020.
What's the matter with fracking?
What did it pollute, like three water tables?
It's make sure that we can get 300 million from mines.
We can do that, and we can do that by investing money in doing it.
It's a transition to that.
I have one more question in this pot, and then we leave it.
He was against fracking.
He said it.
I will show that to you tomorrow.
I am against fracking until he got the nomination, went to Pennsylvania, then he said, but you know what, Pennsylvania?
He'll be against it very soon because his party is totally against it.
Fracking on federal land, I said, no fracking or oil on federal land.
Let me ask this final question in this section, and then I want to move on to our final section.
President Trump, people of color are much more likely to live near oil refineries and chemical plants.
In Texas, there are families who worry the plants near them are making them sick.
Your administration has rolled back regulations on these kinds of facilities.
Why should these families four years in office?
The families that we're talking about are employed heavily and they are making a lot of money, more money than they've ever made.
If you look at the kind of numbers that we produce for Hispanic, for black, for Asian, it's nine times greater the percentage gain than it was under in three years than it was under eight years of the two of them,
to put it nicely.
Nine times more.
Now, somebody lives, I have not heard the numbers or the statistics that you're saying, but they're making a tremendous amount of money economically.
We saved it, and I saved it again a number of months.
People are texting me now.
They should call it the Poor Boys, P-O-U-R.
Oh, they send you some memes that are going around now.
That's pretty good.
Mexico and Russia, to cut back way back, we saved our oil industry, and now it's very vibrant to get it.
And everybody has very inexpensive gasoline replacing.
Vice President Biden, your response, and then we're going to have a final question for both of you.
My response is that those people live on what they call fence lines.
He doesn't understand this.
They live near chemical plants that, in fact, pollute chemical plants and oil plants and refineries that pollute.
Why are you showing me?
And all, there are more oil refineries in Marcus Hook and Delaware River than there is any place, including in Houston at the time.
When my mom get in the car, when there were first frost.
Poor boy is a great sandwich.
It came from Louisiana.
Poor boys, stand down, stand by and stay.
It doesn't matter what you're paying them.
It matters how you keep them safe.
What do you do?
And you impose restrictions on the pollutions, the pollutants coming out of those fence line communities.
Okay.
I have one final question.
Would you close down the oil industry?
By the way, I have a transition from the oil industry.
Yes.
It is a big statement.
That was a big statement and a big fuck up.
Too quick.
Unfortunately, there's so many people on the left that like that kind of talk.
Well, if you let me finish the statement, because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time.
Over time.
And I'd stop giving to the oil industry, I'd stop giving them federal subsidies.
He won't give federal subsidies to the gas, excuse me, to the water and wind.
Why are we giving it to the oil industry?
We actually do give it to solar and wind.
That's maybe the biggest statement in terms of business.
That's the biggest statement.
Because basically what he's saying is he is going to destroy the oil industry.
Will you remember that Texas?
Will you remember that Pennsylvania, Oklahoma?
Vice President Biden, let me give you 10 seconds to respond to that.
He fucked up.
He takes everything out of contact.
Someone just went like this.
And the person who gives him his Adderall, his little speed boost, he just got hit up the side of the head.
Clearly wasn't enough, fuckhead.
By 2015.
I didn't want him to have a heart attack.
No, we're finished with this.
Is he going to get China to do it?
This is our final question.
We have to go to the next step.
We have to join Paris Accord and make China buy what they agreed to.
All right, this is about leadership, gentlemen.
And this first question does go to you.
President Trump, imagine this is your inauguration day.
What will you say in your address to Americans who did not vote for you?
You'll each have one minute, starting with you, Mr. President.
We have to make a country totally successful as it was prior to the plague coming in from China.
Now we're rebuilding it and we're doing record numbers, 11.4 million jobs in a short period of time, et cetera.
But I will tell you, go back.
Before the plague came in, just before, I was getting calls from People that were not normally people that would call me, they wanted to get together.
We had the best black unemployment numbers in the history of our country.
Hispanic, women, Asian, people with diplomas, with no diplomas, MIT graduates, number one in the class.
Everybody had the best numbers.
And you know what?
The other side wanted to get together.
They wanted to unify.
Success is going to bring us together.
We are on the road to success.
But I'm cutting taxes, and he wants to raise everybody's taxes, and he wants to put new regulations on everything.
He will kill it.
If he gets in, you will have a depression the likes of which you've never seen.
Your 401ks will go to hell, and it'll be a very, very sad day for this country.
All right.
Vice President Biden, same question to you.
What will you say during your inaugural address to Americans who did not vote for you?
I will say, I'm an American president.
I represent all of you, whether you voted for me or against me.
And I'm going to make sure that you're represented.
I'm going to give you hope.
We're going to move.
We're going to choose science over fiction.
We're going to choose hope over fear.
We're going to choose forward because we have enormous opportunities.
Enormous opportunities.
Hope over fear.
His whole thing was fear.
I know.
This economy we can deal with the systemic racism.
At the same time, we can make sure that our economy is being run and moved and motivated by clean energy, creating millions of new jobs.
And that's the fact.
That's what we're going to do.
And I'm going to say, as I said at the beginning, what is on the ballot here is the character of this country.
Decency, honor, respect, treating people with dignity, making sure that everyone has an even chance.
And I'm going to make sure you get that.
You haven't been getting it the last four years.
All right.
I want to thank you both for a very robust hour and a half of fantastic debate.
Really appreciate it.
President Trump, former Vice President Joe Biden, thank you to Belmont University for hosting us tonight.
And most importantly, thank you to those watching tonight.
Election Day is November 3rd.
Don't forget to vote.
Thank you, everyone, and have a great night.
Thank you.
Can you do a wrap-up?
Yeah.
We're going to do a wrap-up, but let's see if they do a wrap-up.
Okay.
It's kind of cool that you can watch TV with no commercials, huh?
And center than the first debate, as you see the first lady making her way up to the stage, as well as Dr. Jill Bill with a mask there.
It was a debate of substance for all of the back and forth about the mute and how that was going to factor in.
It actually factored in well.
Candidates got a lot more to say than obviously that first debate.
President Trump had a recurring theme about being an outsider, about being an anti-politician, attacking Joe Biden for a while.
Keeping his toes erect from what he was wearing.
What did you get done in the eight years that you were vice president?
I think she has onions into the camera about character, about bringing the country together, having some of his strongest moments in that framework.
Pretty spirited, but got a lot of substance.
Yeah, it was a very constructive evening.
I think that Americans saw 96 minutes, I think it was, in the end, of a very spirited debate.
The two-minute response seemed to work well.
I think that President Trump is probably going to feel like he hit his mark a lot better this time than he did last time.
We saw clearly Donald Trump, the businessman, looking at the economy through the lens of creating jobs.
He was attacked.
Download sex pick tweets, which the girl looks like she's like 11.
Oh, that has to do with anything there, you end up with weird pedophile shit.
Is it on Google or DuckDuck?
Okay, are they still blabbing?
What are they saying?
We don't care about that.
Let's do the score.
You ready?
Yeah.
So what were the subjects here?
The topics were COVID, foreign policy, healthcare, immigration, the environment, race.
Am I missing one?
What was at the very end there?
Energy, right?
Or did you put that in front of you?
That's the environment.
Okay.
All right.
So let's, now I have a very random scoring thing here.
It's something I thought was big enough.
I wrote it down.
So the laptop, let's go up here.
So, yeah, that thing about the taxes was annoying.
Trump's taxes were released.
I think the $750 thing really sticks in people's craws.
It was a filing fee.
Here's what most Americans don't understand about rich people and entrepreneurs in general.
This is why the poor boys, I'm always calling them the poor boys from now on.
This is why the poor boys...
Actually, that doesn't really roll off the tongue.
Poor, poor, proud.
Yeah.
Poor.
It's like rural juror.
Poor boys.
Too many ogres.
They say the nicest words in the English language are seller door.
Cellar door.
Poor.
Well, door sounds like poor.
Yeah.
Anyway, poor boys.
No, I'm going to have to say proud boys.
Anyway, yeah, that's why Proud Boys say venerate the entrepreneur.
Because someone like our buddy whose dad worked his whole life to build a Japanese restaurant and then he gave it to our friend.
I won't say his name.
And then his friend busted his ass and it went under.
No one talks about that.
But if his restaurant was incredibly successful and he became the next David Chang, they go, oh, your daddy bought you a restaurant.
No, entrepreneurs fail.
My personal experience, and maybe I'm not very good at making money, but it's been about one in 12 of my ventures fail.
But I've made mills.
Oh, this is us.
So, what's this?
This is the Proud Boys.
When they see Joe Biden call them poor boys, they're all upset.
Of course.
They're not making merbs and laughs.
There's no humor involved in that.
We're pissed.
So mad.
They're pissed, I guess.
I don't know.
We're mad and I don't know if it's we or they.
And yeah, just almost as mad as the gay thing with George Takai.
Oh, God.
Why don't you Photoshop me fat too?
Oh, I'm not that fat.
If we want entrepreneurs to spend money, so say you spend a million dollars making like, I don't know, a giant fucking fun park, and it's a success.
And you make a million dollars that year.
Your profits are zero.
Should you pay the tax of the guy who made a million dollars?
No.
Trump was spending tens of millions of dollars on buildings.
He's making tens of millions of dollars.
If the balance is zero that year, you don't pay tax.
I've had years where I've paid $0 tax when I build a business.
I've had years where I've paid, one of my worst years was $360,000 in tax in one fucking year.
I saw that bill and I was like, I called my account and I go, you're not going to believe what happened with the decimal place on the tax bill.
They moved it over at least three or two.
And he goes, no, that's your bill, dude.
So he's paid, I believe over his career, $400 million in tax.
That means there's years where you get down to zero.
That's good.
Anyway, so, but is that, I'm going to call that a point for Biden because people don't get that concept.
All right, so that's the taxes being released.
And he says, you can look at my release.
Right?
The Chinese bank account.
No, that wasn't a thing for either side.
That's a really stupid thing.
It's okay to have a bank account in China.
You have to be a total moron not to know that a guy who does business all over the world would have bank accounts all over the world.
Especially with fucking China.
The laptop is in.
Laptop.
That's another word that doesn't roll off the tongue.
You want to say laptop.
Why is a p harder than a b pee pee?
B. B. Laptop.
Laptop.
More pushy.
I get it.
You have to exhale some air.
Laptop.
All you got to do is close your mouth.
Laptop.
You're building up an air when you do a pee.
With a pe, you got to go la and then hold on, boys.
Shut your mouth.
Build up a pile of air and then go laptop.
Laptop.
And you're doing two peas in a row.
You're like, I just did a pee.
No, you got to do another one.
What?
I did a pee like less than a second ago.
Sorry, dude.
I need two.
Laptop.
That's in.
That's a Trump.
All talk, no action was a general theme from Trump.
That was brilliant.
Destroy our country.
I don't think that worked.
I don't think that was a home run.
Queens was a home run.
Yep, trying to look for that.
You'll notice that there's a method to my madness here, but jokes count as much as a joke can be as effective as a laptop.
I mean, low energy Jeb was a joke, and it destroyed Jeb Bush's entire political career forever.
Little Marco, Lion Ted, all of these little quips can be much deadlier weapons than the laptop from hell.
Which was a great quote, but I'm not giving you two scores for one laptop.
We do have institutional racism.
Now, this is a tough one because so many fucking idiots believe that.
I'm just going to cross it out and not put it on there.
The jail stuff, all is jail, putting men in jail.
And by the way, when I'm doing this score, I'm like, what's the general takeaway?
Not what I think or what a Republican thinks.
I'm like, what does a moderate think?
And I think Biden did very badly on all the black people in prison.
A super damaging term was transition.
That was, I almost want to do two points for this.
That destroyed him because you have how many millions of jobs.
Did I finish my other fucking beer already?
One of them?
How many millions of jobs are reliant on fossil fuels?
It's such a dumb, maybe for a small like governor or representative in a really liberal town or state that doesn't have a lot of energy, a lot of fracking, I could see that being an okay thing to say.
But to America, the fossil fuels thing is stupid.
And he said, we're going to transition away.
The banning fracking thing, that's the same.
Poor boys, that doesn't get him a, that's not on anyone's score.
Hunter, Biden, I think that's the same as laptop, right?
Oh, I have a theory here.
This doesn't have anything to do with the scores.
When we did Vice, when Shane Smith, we called him the CEO, whisperer, because we'd be making no money and he convinced the guy that we're all going to be billionaires, which ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If he had a major thing to do, he wouldn't work the day before, like a major meeting with like, say, HBO or Viacom.
He'd have a bath like that night, have a long 12-hour night of sleep, wake up, have a long, long breakfast, not come into the office at all.
And so he had just had like 30 hours of total relaxation, watch a movie, read a book, fuck his girlfriend, whatever, and not talk about work.
And then he would go in and just destroy in the meeting.
And I heard Michael J. Fox, the way he doesn't spazz out is he has like three days off doing nothing at all.
And then they sort of wheel him to the commercial where he's going to be doing a back to the future thing.
And he only has like four Twitches.
And then he's so destroyed after that, like three hours of shooting that they have to like wheel him back to his basement and he lies there crying and napping for several days.
To recharge.
I think that's what they do with Biden.
Because he put a lid on it like two days ago.
So he's just been like in a sauna, getting a massage, chilling out.
And that's why I'm actually willing to give up on The drug theory and just say it's two days of preparing, and then he only adds like an hour and a half.
We saw him losing it towards the end there.
Yeah, with the poor boys, like poor boys.
Poor boys.
It says to the about the poor boys.
Last time we were on stage.
Wait, is that not you?
That's already on YouTube?
Oh, yeah.
Somebody, yeah, this guy clipped it.
G-Goal L-O-L.
G-G-LOL.
About the poor boys.
Last time we were on stage here, he said, I told him to stand down and stand ready.
Come on.
This guy has a dog whistle about as big as a foghorn.
Oh, that's a good one.
That's funny.
Got the quote totally wrong.
Lots of talk of money for schools.
That's going to help the lobbyists.
But you're not looking for lobbyists right now, my friend.
You're looking for votes.
So all this talk about money, money, money, I think I'm going to put that in a Trump category because he said very clearly, and I think this is the key to the entire debate, was the phrase, they need the help.
That's where we separate as a country.
And that's, the only other one that's that drastic is abortion.
Are you pro-choice?
Do you think women should be able to get abortions if they fucked up and they were dumb sluts who got wasted?
Or do you think it's murder?
We split on that.
And there's little compromise.
And this whole concept of they need the help, they're going through a rough time.
You know, when it started, when Mel first started, I guess it was, what, the 50s, 60s, they'd send you like flour and eggs and milk and, you know, basics so you could make some food.
Your mom could make some food for you so you wouldn't be hungry.
Now it's fucking in the Bronx, they have these big blue buckets where Dominicans will fill them up in the shop with food stamps.
And then the store itself will ship it to DR where they will use it to stock shelves in stores in Dominican Republic.
And I see them by my boxing gym just wheeling a big blue bucket down the street.
And that's someone using their food stamp money.
How can you not look this up?
Food stamp.
Blue bucket.
Yeah, we did the blue bucket thing.
I was trying to see the EBT card fraud, how abundant that is.
There's ship clubs that take EBT cards.
There's fucking drug dealers that will go, I'll take, I'll give you like 20% of whatever it is.
So you give them an EBT card that's worth $100.
To them, it's worth $20.
You can buy $20 of drugs.
Yeah, that's the famous article.
This explains it all.
I gotten so much shit for saying this on Fox from all these Dominicans.
And I would just send this article and go, this was back when I was on Twitter.
I could defend myself.
Anyway, that was a big one, but I'm not putting it in either the Trump or the Biden one because our side goes, no, they don't need the help.
You're making it worse.
The Lord helps those who help themselves.
We obviously want to help out some single mom widow who, you know, is starving to death, but that's not what this is for anymore.
So they mostly don't need the help.
And then the left, who doesn't talk to poor people, doesn't know about the blue buckets or anything like that, blue barrels, they go, they're just trying, they're just going through a rough patch.
So that doesn't do anything.
But I would say this pathway to citizenship asylum seekers talk Biden was doing is a score for Trump.
Because when most people, sane people, on both sides think of asylum seekers, they think of Europe.
And they see these Syrians raping.
They think of the head lying on the street in Paris.
They're not into it.
We might get the house and the Supreme Court.
This has nothing to do with the score.
I just thought it was interesting that he says we might get the house.
This is why everyone I talk to, all the MAGA dads I talk to, they go, I care a lot about politics right now and I haven't before because this is the election.
The why of things.
We get the house.
We have Supreme Court judges that are qualified.
We can permanently alter America.
It's a cliff right now.
We can turn it around away from the cliff or it can go off the cliff.
If Biden loses, this country is irrevocably damaged.
I mean, fuck.
Where will my kids grow up?
Probably Queens.
I don't know where he comes from.
I don't know where he comes up with these numbers.
Queens.
100 trillion.
I'm glad he wasn't muted.
They said they were going to mute them.
Yeah, I heard a little bit of muting, but it was used very sparingly.
In all, that was a great debate.
That was great.
Yeah.
I thought Biden did really well.
I thought he had some strong points.
The COVID thing.
Oh, yeah, that's what I wanted to start with.
So with COVID, his angle was, as Ryan pointed out, I knew about it.
I didn't tell people.
I let it spread everywhere.
That's a really strong point.
And I think most liberals are focused on COVID.
I think they're disappointed in Hunter Biden's laptop, but it's sort of like Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.
They're just like, boys will be boys.
But if Trump would have got to this sooner, we wouldn't have 200,000 people dead.
I don't believe that, but they do.
That's a big one.
So I'm going to give that two.
One for Trump holding back on that.
I don't know if he did hold back on that, but that doesn't really matter at this point.
So one for Trump holding back on that.
And then one for the actual death toll of 200,000.
He could be running against JFK.
I'm sorry.
He could be running against Kim Jong-un right now.
But the fact that 200,000 people are allegedly dead, I think it's 100,000, that's a huge strike for him.
So that's two negative points for Trump on COVID.
The friends with Kim Jong-un thing, I don't think that was a point for either side.
That was a dumb thing to say.
The idea that him and Kim Jong-un are buddy-buddy, so what?
It's only corrupt when that country can do you harm or take you over.
Like the Putin thing is better.
So to say Trump is with Putin is a smart Criticism because then we're scared of Russia taking over our country and infiltrating our system and destroying us the way they destroy themselves.
And then saying Biden is in bed with China is a good accusation because China is an enemy, they could take over our country.
Exact same thing.
But North Korea?
He was friendly with the local crackhead.
Okay?
The crackheads do crime.
I want to be friendly with him.
I want to know what he's up to.
He's a fucking loser.
And if we attack him or do something major to him, he'll just kill everyone in North Korea.
So we have a psycho crackhead with a fucking suicide button, a suicide vest.
Say to him, hey man, you're cool.
All right.
Yeah.
So that's not a point against Trump.
Hey, you're cool.
You're a large marsupial that I can't remember the name of.
Cabby Barra.
No, yeah, not quite this.
Aunt Eater, but no.
No, not Aunt Eater.
And then the other annoying thing was this whole children separated from families.
You're so fucking naive, liberals.
Yeah, that's it.
At my place in Costa Rica, you just wake up and see one on your lawn.
That's really cool.
They're huge.
This big.
And it's a rat.
Doesn't it stink or something?
You bum me out about some fact about it.
Because they look fun to hang out with, but if they're going to stink, no way.
I'll even kiss the men.
Yeah, how frustrating was that thing about the kids?
You think this fucking narrative of this sweet Mexican family walking over the border to come help us pick lettuce.
And we brought our baby because he's so hungry.
Please, can we pick your lettuce for one cent an hour and help you eat and serve you burritos?
And then please, can we live over there in the barrio in the slum and just maybe have some food and a roof over our head, please?
Nothing wrong with that.
It's fucking criminals and they use kids as pawns.
They rape women during the trip.
That's just a given.
Women take birth control.
I'm getting raped.
And then they have these poor bastard kids.
The way children are treated there is shocking.
So that was just a lie.
But did it work as a score against Trump, the cages thing?
I don't think so.
I'm crossing it off.
I'm only counting punches that landed.
And there was a lot of jabs in this fight.
He parried with that cage punch.
Very...
Who built the cages, Joe?
Also in my notes here, the weird Iran-Russia thing.
If you're remotely curious, you know that the poor boys were accused of sending death threats to people, right?
We discovered that was Iran.
The left is saying that that was good for Iran.
I mean, sorry, good for the DNC because it was Trump being evil.
That's so bizarre to me.
There was a writer on Mother Jones who said that you realize when you put stuff on the TriCaster to cool it, you're cooking it, right?
So, like, go to my parlor.
There was some dude from Mother Jones who didn't get that the hack makes the left look bad.
Right.
Which I find to be so confusing.
Because he goes, no, it made Trump look bad.
It was Trump supporters trying to kill people.
No, it was clearly Iran pretending to be Trump supporters.
Keep going down.
Yeah, there it is.
No, no, no, above that.
Yeah, David Korn.
If Ratcliffe is talking about the Prowboys emails that aim to intimidate Democratic voters, how does that damage Trump?
David, you grown man who has white hair, so you're probably my age or older.
An email going out saying we know who you are.
If you don't vote for Trump, we'll kill you, makes Trump look bad.
Not knowing that boggles the mind.
There he is.
You can be a fucking meathead and work at Mother Jones and be an analyst for MSNBC.
He looks perpetually perplexed.
That's what meatheads look like.
All right.
So the hack, I think that is a score against Biden.
Should we give the hack a score for Trump?
The Iran thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because that makes Trump look good.
Run through a motherfucker face.
The China thing, we're not counting that.
That was a punch didn't land.
Tax returns.
China is asshole.
A punch didn't land.
Make money in China.
Okay.
So in total, we had five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven major punches in this fight.
It was a pretty good fight.
But when you tally it up, seven of those punches were successfully delivered by Donald Trump, and only four punches were delivered by Biden.
It was not a knockout, unfortunately.
I was begging for Biden to start looking around the room and asking where he was.
That would have been so fantastic.
A knockout would have been a great fight.
But by decision, we have Donald Trump, a victory.
Donald Trump wins 7-4.
And that debate was yet another example of why Trump is king and why he will be winning in a landslide this November.
Lock up your doors, put fucking plywood on your windows.
The left is going to go ballistic when they understand that this score represents the next four years and possibly the next 40 years of America.
The right is winning.
The left is lost.
And I think they're lost because they don't talk to people.
They don't know that Mexicans use orphans to cross the border.
They don't Know what black people are really like.
They've never talked to cops.
They just have this silly Dr. Zeus pie-in-the-sky idea of environmentalism as the Lorax.
And there's these sweet little families that just want to help people.
No, there's some bad shit out there, and we're aware of it.
And we're going to expose everyone to it because there's not a truth existing, which we fear or would want unknown to the whole world.
In other words, be brave.
Get fired.
Never stop fighting.
Wait, that's not it.
Get fired.
Get in trouble.
Be brave.
And never stop fighting.
Fuck yeah.
In the middle.
Fuck yeah.
Break the road.
Fuck yeah.
Internet.
Fuck yeah.
Slippery.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
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