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March 6, 2019 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes

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Get Off My Lawn Podcast #119 | So Joe Rogan and Jack Dorsey were talking about me

We review the Joe Rogan Twitter special, and correct some of the falsehoods that were sprinkled throughout the discussion of Gavin and the Proud Boys being purged from Twitter. Then we reach into the Male Bag, AKA the Scrotum.

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	So Joe Rogan and Jack Dorsey were talking about me.
	My ears are burning.
	I believe they're all talking about me.
	I think what happened was Joe Rogan had Jack Dorsey on and he softballed him.
	And he got a lot of shit for it.
	And I don't think Joe Rogan likes shit.
	Like he told me after I was on the first time, he goes, yeah, a lot of people were real mad at me for having you on something about anti-Muslim stuff or whatever.
	And I sort of said, yeah, dude, that's the deal.
	Like it's almost like someone getting into pro wrestling and saying, yeah, when I got in the ring there and I started fighting Hulk Hogan, all these people were yelling boo at me.
	I mean, that's the game we're in.
	It's sort of like when Jon Stewart ran into Anthony Cumia and he said, uh, he refused to shake Anthony's hand.
	And Anthony goes, uh, how long you been in this business for?
	Yeah.
	Jon, I did make fun of you, um, on my show, but that's what we do.
	All you do on your show is make fun of other people.
	Uh, you're not supposed to take it that seriously, but, um, Anyway, I'm not going to disparage Joe Rogan because I'm desperate to get on his show.
	It's good for business.
	But I think, so my theory is he got a lot of flack and then Alex Jones started attacking him and saying that he's getting paid by Jack Dorsey to promote Twitter.
	And he kept asking me about that.
	Alex kept asking me about that on Infowars and I was like...
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Again, selling out because I want to get back on Joe's show.
	I used to talk to Joe through Twitter DMs, but now that I'm banned, I don't know how to get a hold of him.
	And it's funny how many friends you lose.
	When you are banned from Twitter, like relationships.
	I should have said to every famous person I know, what's your phone number or something in case I get banned from this?
	But even Tommy Robinson is really hard to get a hold of now.
	I'll ask like a producer or something.
	Anyway.
	So they were on, have you got the clip?
	Do you want to play the clip?
	Not that I'm aware.
	So then this, you know, to the next question, This is Vijaya Gade.
	She's the person that's in charge of like banning people and all that stuff.
	And she's with Jack Dorsey.
	Pertaining to bias, you have the issue of Antifa versus the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer.
	And Twitter permanently excised anyone associated with the Proud Boys, Antifa accounts who have broken the rules repeatedly, branded known cells that have been involved in violence, all still active.
	Is there a reason?
	Well, with the Proud Boys, what we were able to do was actually look at documentation and announcements that, you know, the leaders of that organization had made and their use of violence in the real world.
	Just stop.
	What are you talking about, lady?
	Again, I want to get back on Twitter, because I think it's good for the cause, so I'm being a lot, I'm being super nice to her.
	But what, what, first of all, what leaders?
	You know what I mean?
	This reminds me of the SPLC, where they're able to destroy people's lives, but then you look at the way they talk, and they're just so half-assed.
	They're like, you want bigots, Gavin?
	Well, this is how you get bigots!
	These guys read Death of the West, which by the way means white.
	It means death of white people.
	So she's talking about Pat Buchanan like he's this fucking Nazi stormtrooper, yet this woman is writing for the SPLC and they're making major decisions about people's lives.
	Similarly, this woman, this Indian woman, Vijaya, is able to say, yeah, we ban this group, which ends up being hundreds of people, and they can't defend themselves anymore, too.
	So now when people say, you know, Proud Boys took a plea in court on Friday, they can't say, no, no, one guy took a plea that was a Proud Boy, another guy took a plea that wasn't, and they didn't really have serious charges, and it was five days community service, so they thought, fuck it, I'm not gonna go to court for five days of picking up garbage.
	The other guys who are facing jail, which you can find on OfficialProudBoys.com, Doug, John, and Max, they all said, no, we're not taking that deal.
	That deal sucks, and we didn't do anything wrong.
	But this idea that leaders were calling for violence, A, there's no leaders, and B, okay, so you're anti-violence, so that must mean you're real hard on Hamas.
	Hamas is on Twitter, by the way.
	A Palestinian terrorist group.
	They're on Twitter.
	Antifa has also been deemed a terrorist group.
	The Proud Boys were not.
	But anyway, keep rolling it.
	We're focused on, and subsequent to our decision, I believe, the FBI also designated them.
	That's not true.
	It's not true?
	That's not true.
	No.
	Okay.
	Just pause.
	No, that's not true.
	Just pause.
	So, Tim Poole is pretty thorough, but Joe Rogan, he talks to comedians, and he has a good time, and he's very philosophical, but he's not like a research nut, the way Ann Coulter would be.
	And even Joe knows that that whole FBI thing is bullshit.
	So good to hear that, isn't it?
	I guess.
	But why are we so happy with scraps?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, the far left can take this shitty small-town police report from Vancouver, Washington, where some guy wants to cover his ass for firing a Proud Boy Girl sheriff.
	So he says, uh, the FBI were here and, uh...
	I don't know, they said that the Proud Boys have ties to white nationalists and they're extremists.
	I'm gonna put that in the report just so that she can't sue me.
	Then the far left gets a hold of that, that guy Jason Chittyteeth at the Guardian.
	He said to me when I met him at a Tommy Robbins and then he goes, hello, I'm actually from the UK.
	And I go, I know dude, I can tell by your teeth.
	Oh no.
	That maybe didn't start us on the right foot.
	Did he like that?
	No.
	He also, um, I also called him a tepid cunt.
	Wow.
	When he called me once during an interview.
	You're a real charmer.
	Well, I'm really happy with that.
	Yeah.
	That's up there with Torpid Sloth.
	Yes.
	A tepid cunt.
	It really comes, it sums him up, Jason Millicent in a nutshell, but it also gets across that these people are They're meek, they're milquetoast, but they're also evil.
	So they're just like, the term they use in England, which I really like, is wet.
	You know, if someone comes across as a child molester, you'd say, he seems really wet.
	And it's like evil and slimy, but Jason is more, I should stop.
	Explaining it.
	Tepid cunt is perfect.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, Jason in the left ran with that sentence from police support.
	I know people in the FBI.
	I call, I know them from my death threats.
	And they go, the first guy I talked to goes, yeah, that's not really what we do.
	We don't really deem groups, and you go to their website and they do deem like major groups, you know, ISIS, yes, terrorist group.
	So they talk about the biggies, but they don't really mention, you know, Patriot Prayer or even like bonafide racist biker gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood.
	They're not on—the FBI doesn't—they deal with the individual.
	They don't police thought.
	But that's the new thing.
	You'll notice with the New York City Football Club, they're trying to—they said, we need to get the racists out of this club, and they talk about this one Latino skinhead.
	What's his name again?
	Irvin.
	And some other dude who, like, has an OI record label.
	They want them out.
	Even though they don't do anything wrong at the games.
	And I was thinking about that.
	Like, if I'm at a soccer game, and someone in that crowd is a racist, an actual bonafide racist, which these guys aren't, I don't give a shit.
	I don't give a shit about what a stranger's thoughts are.
	I mean, it's one thing if they're throwing bananas on the pitch when a black player comes out, which Russians do, and Brits always got accused of that.
	But, like, why do you care what someone's thoughts are, you fucking weirdo?
	And, by the way, if you do start rounding up people for having racist thoughts, I think whites are going to be some of the last group that gets rounded up.
	Talk to an old Korean guy about his daughter dating a black man.
	Or even Japanese.
	They hate a lot of people.
	Dude, talk to a Japanese about his daughter dating a Korean.
	Yeah.
	It's not gonna be pretty.
	They just looked down at the Chinese.
	It's such a rude thing I've heard from my ex-Korean boss about the Chinese.
	I wonder what your dad's family thought of him knocking up a Puerto Rican.
	Ooh, I don't know.
	I mean, they know... He's brought the great shame!
	Yeah, that's why he didn't... Well, there's probably plenty of reasons he didn't marry her, but that's one of them, yeah.
	That was a different time back then.
	You don't know?
	Have you ever met your Japanese grandfather?
	I met my grandmother.
	Not my grandfather.
	Oh, you met your grandmother.
	Baba.
	What did Baba say when you met Baba?
	Baba very nice today.
	Very nice.
	She caught me.
	So, oh, my God.
	Can I tell you a quick story?
	Of course.
	Alright, so I was in California visiting my dad and I met this girl at a sushi place and my dad laughed.
	We all went there as a family and then I wound up meeting this Japanese chick.
	Didn't speak too great English, but I said, hey, come to my house.
	Where is this?
	In California.
	Oh, okay.
	And so, now she comes over to my apartment, my dad's apartment, and then, so it's just me and her, nobody's there, and my grandmother's visiting, you know, so she's out somewhere, she's taking a walk or something, and I have my shirt off, and she's kneeling on her knees, and it looks like my shirt's off and she's kneeling down, like about to blow me or something, and my Japanese grandmother walks in, and I don't, she doesn't speak any English, so, I don't speak Japanese, so they're just talking in Japanese trying to explain their way out of this.
	And I'm just standing there.
	So she was saying in Japanese, it's not what you think.
	Yeah.
	Was the grandmother mad?
	She was just like, oh, I... like that.
	Okay.
	I feel like Japanese people wouldn't care.
	They're not religious, right?
	They were pretty conservative to some degree.
	So, yeah, my dad was like, oh, my grandson's penis is going in lady's mouth because it has extra nerve endings and it will be pleasurable to him.
	I wound up learning Japanese later on in life and I look back and she actually said, where are the tentacles at?
	Yo.
	What does that mean?
	Because they like tentacle porn.
	Oh, I get it.
	Very funny.
	Thank you.
	No, they have penis festivals in Japan where they all worship the penis and what great work it's done.
	And there's kids and dads all walking around with giant wood penises.
	What?
	And big penis monuments and stuff.
	Yeah, it's a big deal.
	Wow.
	And I know a friend of mine, a Jewish woman, she clogged a toilet when she was dating her Japanese boyfriend, who she's married to now, and they have three kids.
	But it was her first time meeting his parents, and she fucking clogged the toilet.
	I didn't even know women shit.
	I thought it was bubble gum that comes out.
	No.
	So I guess she's one, I think 1% of women shit.
	Anyway, she's part of the 1%, and she goes, oh my god, and the boyfriend didn't know where the plunger was, so he had to get his dad.
	So his dad comes up, and he's seeing his son's girlfriend's logs.
	Not turds, logs.
	Yes, and guess what?
	It couldn't have happened to a better person.
	Race of people.
	It couldn't have happened to a better race.
	Maybe Germans.
	Yeah, maybe Germans.
	They'd start rubbing it all over themselves.
	But no, the Japanese dad, very clinical, of course, which is why I brought up that thing about your grandmother, and he's like, oh, you are very healthy.
	You have strong fiber in your diet.
	Very good.
	He was like proud of her load.
	Right.
	Proud of your load.
	I'll make you proud of your load.
	Cause your fiber intake and your carbohydrates are on point.
	Okay, let's hear more of Vijay.
	Yeah, you know, the Proud Boys started out as a joke.
	Gavin McInnes, Anthony Cumia, who was part of Opie and Anthony, now it's his own show, told me about it.
	It happened on his show.
	Because there was a guy that was on the show, and they made a joke about starting a gang based on him.
	Can we just pause here for a second?
	I am gay for Anthony Cumia.
	I talk to him at least once a day.
	Great guy.
	Quality human being.
	Very fucking funny.
	His show is one of the few podcasts I listen to, and that's the Anthony Cumia Show with Dave Landau.
	Wonderful guy.
	However, Mr. Cumia is incurious when it comes to certain topics.
	He's great with World War II and planes and video games and politics and race and cops.
	Proud Boys is not an area that he has a lot of interest in, and I do not blame him one bit.
	But he never came to a meetup, and so his theory about how it all started is better than most, because it did start under his roof.
	But, like, he thinks we wear Perry Ellis shirts.
	Perry Ellis, yeah, he'll say that all the time.
	Perry Ellis.
	It kills me to hear that.
	He doesn't know what a Fred Perry is, and so to use him as a source is wrong.
	It's just like talking to Elvis's mom about the origins of rock and roll.
	She's closer than most, but it did start as a joke.
	It's still a joke.
	It's still fun.
	It's still Animal House.
	It's still...
	A funny club that's like the Flintstones Club with, you know, the water buffaloes with Fred and Barney.
	Now, yes, there are fights in the Pacific Northwest, but that's because Antifa starts them.
	Antifa's insane.
	So why is there so much controversy?
	Because we live in an insane time where it's wrong to be an unashamed male.
	Look at little boys in kindergarten getting penalized for being boisterous and being sent to a therapist where they have to take Ritalin to calm them down because boys can't be boys.
	Boys can't be boys.
	Men can't be men.
	You know, look at custody battles.
	We are living in a strange time where men are the butt of all jokes.
	Homer Simpson is our icon and everyone else is put on a pedestal.
	So if you're just, not even rubbing it in people's faces, but just quietly meeting and starting a funny men's club, then you need to be stopped.
	You're evil.
	It's the new Fourth Reich and you're going to start World War Four.
	World War Three, sorry.
	Yes, there have been a couple guys who went to rallies.
	There's been way more charity work that no one ever talks about.
	And as far as the violence goes, things are not getting out of hand.
	The reaction might be getting out of hand.
	So they get ambushed by Antifa, and Antifa tells the police to fuck off.
	Instead of that being ignored, which it should have been, that becomes the Attorney General, the Mayor and the Governor going ballistic on the top brass and making the police round everyone up.
	So that's getting out of hand.
	But not the people, like to say, for Rogan to say this probably saying, just got out of hand.
	That's like saying, you know, these guys, they started, they got involved in black magic and stuff in Salem in the 1700s or whenever it was.
	And then, you know, and then they talk about all the witches getting round up and burnt, and then they just got out of hand.
	No, we're not getting out of hand because someone's burning us at the stake.
	It's the reaction that got out of hand.
	But as far as the day-to-day goes, there's been zero fucking change.
	And I did not quit the group because of a fake FBI designation.
	That happened the day before I left.
	You can tell by my presentation.
	I've been working on it for about at least a week.
	I quit because my legal team said that it would be better for the NYC9.
	Because they were pushing on the NYC9 that they're a gang.
	A gang has two things.
	It has a leader and they do illegal activities.
	If I quote-unquote step down from my non-existent leadership position, then it hurts the prosecution's case that we're dealing with a gang.
	So I did it to hurt the prosecution's case.
	And I don't think it helped, to be honest.
	You know, John is still facing a year in prison, Max is still facing six months in prison, and Doug is still facing three years probation.
	Two of those people, John and Doug, married to black women, tons of black kids, fired from their jobs, moving back in with their parents because they're white supremacists.
	That is the fucking clown world we're living in.
	So, we didn't change, the world became more clown.
	It went from Bozo to the guy from It.
	Doink.
	Oh, Pennywise.
	Pennywise, Jesus.
	My fucking six-year-old.
	My 10-year-old watched it on the plane, and my six-year-old was looking over his shoulder.
	It's fucked up.
	So now he brings up Pennywise every two days.
	Kids cannot see scary shit.
	When my middle boy was very young, I showed him Pee Wee's Big Adventure, and he saw a large marge.
	Her head explode in it, like she's a trucker who her eyeballs bug out and stuff.
	Every time I'd sit down with him to draw, he'd ask me to draw a large marge.
	I wasn't allowed to say the word large marge, though.
	She was known in our house as L.M.
	I told Paul Reubens that.
	When Leslie Arfin married Paul Rust, there was a lot of celebs there, including Fatty Bum Bum Cakes.
	What's her name?
	Lena... Dunham?
	Lena Dunham.
	God, it was a brutally hot day.
	She was wearing a cable knit turtleneck sweater and a blazer on top.
	You know that's a sign of schizophrenia, when you can't gauge the temperature.
	That's why you see bums in July wearing winter coats.
	Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So I meet Paul Reubens, and I go, wow, it's an honor, you know, I grew up watching your show, my band used to cover your opening show, blah, blah, blah.
	And then I told him the Large Marge story, expecting him to laugh.
	And he just sort of looks at me cautiously.
	I think it's possible he thought I was like a Jerky Boys kind of guy and I was fucking with him.
	Oh, I see.
	Because in LA, I'm sort of seen as Gigi Allen.
	So if Gigi Allen came up to you and was like riffing, you'd go, are you about to rub shit in my face?
	So he's sort of trepidatious.
	And he said, yeah, yeah, I hear that a lot.
	And I go, oh, okay, well, I guess it's pretty, I wonder why that is, and he goes, maybe, you know, it's kind of alarming, the scene comes out of nowhere, and I think kids are genuinely shocked by it.
	That's a fair answer.
	Yeah, it's so boring.
	Yeah, there's nothing to get out of that, really.
	Like, it's Pee Wee Herman I'm meeting here.
	He's been an integral part of my inside jokes my entire life and I finally meet him.
	He's like, well, it could be it's a shocking image.
	Anyway, I'm gonna go get another hors d'oeuvre.
	All right.
	Bye fuckface.
	The only time it's not a bummer when they're not the person you think they are is Gilbert.
	What the fuck?
	Gilbert Gottfried.
	Because when you meet him and he's like just a quiet, he's basically a little Japanese man for some reason.
	He's so Jewish he's Japanese.
	You like it because you're like, oh that's nice, you're a calm little gentleman.
	Yeah, I'm thinking like Tucker Carlson is better than you think he is, and way more fun.
	Alex Jones, also super funny and fun to hang out with.
	Totally different than he is on camera.
	Anthony Comey is another one.
	But for the most part, every time I've met these guys, I'm kind of disappointed.
	Yeah, I hear you.
	But you know what was cool?
	Meeting Alex, I brought up, he was in Waking Life.
	He had like a really small, it was like an animated movie.
	They take the regular footage and they paint over it.
	So it's a very stylistic movie and it's a bunch of different chunks.
	I know it, I know it.
	And I referenced that to him because I figure people don't reference that a lot and he was like, oh, yeah The other human spirit and about he knows it still and how he knew a movie he was in but yeah But he what a real Alex Jones buff.
	He is he's still here's the thing is usually people are too disconnected with their work They're like, oh, yeah, that was yeah, I did that thing a while ago, but he was like, yeah Yeah, he's still proud of it and it fucking ruled.
	So that was like a nice little moment there Yeah, no, it wasn't it was a stupid moment.
	Oh, everyone knows the movies they were in.
	Oh Yeah, but they're usually not that excited.
	He wasn't excited.
	He went, yeah, yeah, that was the thing.
	No, no, he quoted, he's smiling and he was like quoting it.
	All right.
	All right.
	Let's go back to the VJ.
	A feminine guy and they would call him the Proud Boys.
	And let me take that back a second.
	Sure.
	...gang based on him, because he was a very effeminate guy, and they would call him the Proud Boys.
	And, um, they went into detail about how this thing became from a joke, and saying that you could join the Proud Boys, and everyone was, you know, it was like being silly, to people joining it, and then it becoming this thing to fight Antifa, and then becoming infested with white nationalists, and becoming... Tim Poole calls it there.
	This is a very frustrating thing.
	So, so yeah, we fought Antifa because they attacked me when I was doing a talk and then we realized they're attacking all our friends and drenching Lauren Southern in piss twice.
	We would fight back.
	I know I've used violent language in the past, but it was always fight back.
	When I said choke a tranny, I meant I was talking specifically about a video where this tranny was hassling this black MAGA supporter and he wouldn't do anything.
	It's a callback joke.
	Yeah.
	Fighting back in this day and age is violent, and I'm not exaggerating.
	In fact, to quote that woman who was interviewing the Catholic schoolboys, the Covington kids, she said, you were standing your ground.
	Don't you think that's a little aggressive?
	Yeah, it's really aggressive to stand your fucking ground, dipshits.
	I'm not calling Joe Rogan a dipshit.
	So, no.
	Just because you go to a Trump thing or go to see a talk and you've beat up guys who are trying to kill you, which by the way Joe Rogan talks about Rufio's punch heard around the world and Alex Jones had Rufio on.
	I'm talking about the Antifa kid who whipped Rufio with an asp twice and then Rufio knocked him out with a wild right-wing haymaker.
	Did you know I fought a cop today?
	Aha, I heard.
	It's Ash Wednesday.
	I sweat my ashes off.
	Got in the ring.
	He grew up in a ring.
	He's Danny McAloon's son.
	Danny the Irish McAloon.
	Big boxer in the Bronx in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
	Boxed till he was in his late 30s.
	This is the father.
	I fought the son.
	And fuck, man.
	This is the thing I've noticed about sparring.
	I'm onto you fuckers.
	You always say the same thing.
	You go, we'll just do some jabs, just do some jabs, just exercise, get some work in, they say.
	And they go, we're not trying to kill anyone.
	They always say that.
	We're not trying to kill anyone.
	And then they proceed to punch me in the head really hard.
	Like, I had a headache.
	They rattled my cage.
	And when I say they, I mean the cop I fought today and everyone I've fought.
	Every single person I've fought always says, it's just exercise.
	We're just getting some work in.
	And then they always just... And I'm telling you, man, I'm getting like 1% better every time.
	I think I'm at 5% now.
	I think my boxing is as good as your German.
	I cannot hold a conversation in the ring because I can go 15 rounds doing workouts on a heavy bag or whatever.
	Fast stuff and skipping rope.
	Fucking two rounds fighting and I have full-blown AIDS.
	And I think it's fear and it's tensing up your body and it's justified fear is my point.
	It's not like you're scared something might go wrong.
	No, you get punched in the head.
	So it's like, it's like dancing with someone who has a taser.
	And you're enjoying yourselves and you're getting in there and then once in a while, they just fucking nail you and it rattles your cage.
	Like my headgear is not facing forward after the punch.
	I have to realign it.
	It's covering my eyes.
	It was such a wallop.
	Do you ever role play and pretend you're somebody else?
	Well one, actually no, that's a good idea though.
	What do you do in your mind like?
	Well today I tried a bunch of stuff.
	Once I kind of tried this like Scooby-Doo, Shaggy, although Shaggy's pretty high-strung, but like when they're, they've had a hamburger, so just like, hey man, more of a Cheech and Chong thing, like I'm just in the ring bro, I'm just hanging out, and that does retain your energy, but then Hello!
	You get your fucking bell rung and it's not a delicate punch.
	It's really painful.
	So I didn't, I gave up on that character.
	And then I, and then I, it's a, he's a friend of mine, this guy, but I tried like, Oh yeah, motherfucker.
	Cause I, I noticed when you get a tattoo, it helps if you're pretending you're interrogated.
	So you're being interrogated.
	This is bullshit.
	And you're like, is that all you got?
	I'm not saying shit, motherfucker.
	And they're like, you will tell us where the secrets are.
	And you're like, I'm not telling you shit.
	Go ahead.
	Keep tattooing me.
	That's great.
	It works like a charm.
	That's awesome.
	And sometimes I'll even laugh at them like, ha ha.
	You make me sick.
	And they'll just wonder what's going on?
	No, that's dangerous because it makes the tattooist laugh, and then his lines get squiggly.
	So you gotta watch it with that character.
	But anyway, I tried like, fuck you, bitch.
	I fucking hate your guts.
	And that didn't help.
	This guy, by the way, is probably 220 pounds.
	I think I'm a bantam middleweight.
	I should be fighting guys.
	I'm fighting all these guys based on age, who are my age, but they have decades of fights behind them.
	I need someone like you I can kill.
	Yeah, you could probably fuck me up.
	I mean, form is... I probably have zero form.
	I don't know anything.
	I think so much of it is cardio, and you're probably in better shape than me because you're, what, eight years old?
	Yeah, but I vape.
	Yeah, maybe we should fight.
	All right.
	You already fucked my ribs up.
	There we go.
	Well, that was... I want all pads.
	Oh, yeah, we're covered in pads.
	Oh, great.
	There's a crotch pad.
	I saw you wearing it.
	The other guy didn't have one on, huh?
	How did you see it?
	Cause you had a little video.
	Oh, that video.
	Jesus, that was embarrassing.
	I would rather a sex tape was leaked than that fight.
	Yeah.
	But it's also, fighting's not videogenic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, I know what you mean.
	It's like guns.
	Like when you hear a gun in a TV show, it's like, but if you hear a gun in an apartment building, it's like, yeah, it sounds like someone farting on a piece of steak.
	Pop, pop.
	And same with fighting, you don't hear the punches because your gloves aren't mic'd, so it's not obvious that you're punching hard.
	It looks like you look like a fat old lady who's kind of annoyed.
	Anyway, let's go back to the...
	Joey Rogues.
	People joining it and then it becoming this.
	Pause, pause.
	So this is Joe Rogan saying it became a problem with white nationalists.
	Again.
	Infested.
	That's the problem with the left.
	The left is desperate for Nazis.
	So they find them where they aren't.
	There is so much fucking footage of me being gay.
	And if you wanted to put together a sizzle reel proving I'm gay, it would be easy.
	But they don't want to, no one cares about that.
	But they do want to find Nazis, so they can put together sizzle reels where I look bad, where Proud Boys look bad.
	You know, no one ever talks about all the charity Proud Boys do, but they'll find the one guy, they'll find Jason Kessler, who tried to infiltrate the group twice, and was booted out twice, and ended up organizing Charlottesville, where he, where I got in a fight with him about it and said, you lied, you said you weren't Alt-right.
	I also disavowed that fucking thing about two months before it happened.
	But no, we were a big part of Charlottesville to the mainstream media.
	And yes, there have been like out of 6,000 guys, probably 60 chapters worldwide, there have been about five or six or seven that have been tossed out for being alt-right.
	So, that doesn't mean that it fosters bigotry.
	William F. Buckley would talk about Nazis in National Review and how every couple years you'd have to break out the broom and sweep them out.
	Off the front porch.
	That's just the way it is on the right.
	I'm sure on the left, you constantly have to sweep out fucking pedophiles.
	You know, the anarchist movement is rife with pedophilia.
	The head of Portland Antifa, Mika Rose, is a pedophile who just got off, by the way.
	I don't mean he came.
	I mean, he's just got probation because he's trying to get better.
	Luke Kuhn, of the Disrupt J20 group that Project Veritas exposed.
	He wrote sex fiction about ten-year-old boys.
	Now, are we saying that the anarchist movement is a gateway drug to pedophilia?
	Yeah, why not?
	You get to say your thing.
	Why don't we ever get to say things?
	They get to come up with their cockamamie theories.
	And, by the way, I would argue the SPLC creates bigotry where there is none.
	Like, they have that article, you want bigots, Gavin?
	This is how you get bigots.
	You want bigots, SPLC?
	What about our buddy Sal, who made some unfortunate jokes and went to some unfortunate things because he's a young kid and he was always just an extreme duty, he was an Occupy Wall Street protester.
	And he gets vilified, he gets fired, starts a new life, new job moves, gets fired again, he gets hounded by these fucking, this swarm of bees that the SPLC puts on you.
	Eventually he gets to the point where the only people that he can hang out with are alt-right.
	So he starts like checking it out.
	So the SPLC created an alt-right guy.
	I'm not saying he is that now, but there was definitely a time when he was flirting with it because he was painted into a corner.
	It's mostly memes.
	I mean, he never hit anybody because they're... Almost everyone we kicked out has never been for any bonafide violent act.
	It's always been for like putting up a Confederate flag and we say, look, we get that the Stars and Bars is innocent, but in this day and age, you're getting more people fired.
	Or Pax, who does that Mel Gibson joke about getting raped by a pack of N's, and then they found the tweet years later, devoid of the Mel Gibson reference, he's fired from his entire industry.
	These people don't just get fired from their job, they get killed from that career.
	I believe he's raising fucking emus now, in the middle of nowhere.
	And so you get resentful, and the next thing you know you're like, maybe I am alt-right.
	You know?
	Like, you keep calling someone a fag, homo, homo, that guy's a gay lord!
	And you shove him into the East Village, and no woman will go near him.
	In fact, she's gonna be like, maybe I will suck a dick.
	What are these things, anyway?
	What are these dicks I hear of?
	I hear they're like mine, but a different shade.
	I mean, I beat off.
	Should I beat a guy off?
	Is that so bad?
	I feel like... Start rationalizing it.
	I heard penis, they were like mine, but they don't feel like anything when I touch it.
	Interesting.
	I got in a big fight with my wife on the weekend because we're watching the Michael Jackson thing.
	And I go, you know he's gay, right?
	And she's like, what?
	He's a pedophile.
	And I go, are we seeing a pattern here?
	Like, there's not a lot of nuns raping little girls.
	There's a lot of priests raping boys.
	They're called gays, I'm afraid.
	And the priests, Catholic priests, tend to rape or molest post-pubescent boys.
	They don't molest three-year-olds.
	They're gays.
	Now, Church Militant says that this was a big plan set up long ago for gays to infiltrate the Catholic Church.
	That's one school of thought.
	The other school of thought, which I think I'm more apt to go with, is very Catholic people and old Italian families go, uh-oh, you've got the plague, you're the gay, go into the church, maybe that'll, you could pray it away, maybe that'll get rid of it.
	And then, of course, after a while they go, This isn't helping.
	In fact, I'm hornier.
	I'm even hornier than I was before.
	I don't know which one it is, but... It's impossible to ignore that so many of these cases involve boys and not girls.
	And I think there's pedophiles, right?
	The ones that fuck four-year-olds.
	And then there's the depraved gays.
	And I, we tend to lump them together, but I don't think Michael Jackson, well he, that's a bad example because they were, they weren't post-pubescent, but like the Catholic priests, they were closeted homosexuals.
	All right, so, again, things are not getting out of hand.
	And by the way, yes, Ben Ratner, the producer of Anthony Kuma's show, was a big inspiration for Proud Boys, but it came from, I went to a kid's recital, and they were all playing piano and violin and guitar and drums, and then this one kid comes up and he sings Proud of Your Boy from Aladdin, which you have to check out online.
	The lyrics just make you want to strangle the guy.
	It's so self-aggrandizing while being self-deprecating.
	Conan O'Brien does this all the time.
	He's like, oh my god, my hair.
	I'm so pale.
	Look at my hair.
	I'm a nothing.
	You're like, dude, you're talking about yourself a lot while pretending you don't like yourself.
	He's passive-aggressive to his parents.
	He's so self-obsessed.
	Sorry, I'm not perfect.
	Yeah.
	I've wasted me.
	Okay, that's enough.
	It's just such a me-me-me anthem and it sort of sums up everything wrong with men, or at least the bastardization of men, so we kind of locked in on it and we make fun of that song every day.
	It came from a joke and saying that you could join the Proud Boys and everyone was, you know, it was like being silly to people joining it and then it becoming this thing to fight Antifa and then becoming infested with white nationalists and becoming this thing.
	Well, in many ways it was, but it's been documented how it started and what it was and misrepresented as to why it was started.
	I think there's some things that should be clarified about them, but Gavin has made a bunch of statements that cross the line.
	He claims to be joking, and so that's... Well, he did on my podcast.
	He was talking to me about Antifa, that when Antifa was blocking people like Ben Shapiro's speeches and things along those lines and stopping conservatives from speaking, you should just punch them in the face.
	We're going to have to start kicking people's asses.
	And I was like, this is irresponsible.
	And they weren't just standing in front of us.
	Like, at the Deplora Ball, there was 500 people throwing piss and shit and maybe the problem was with guys like Joe Rogan is they don't get out much.
	Like, they don't go to these things.
	I don't think they understand the culture of these protests.
	I don't think they understand the weapons that get confiscated.
	They've all just seen it on YouTube.
	Dude, outside of Deplora Ball, out of the three friends, I was the only one with a ticket and I didn't go in for like an hour and a half because I was getting footage but then I was in the middle of it with my MAGA hat on And it's fucking terrifying.
	I didn't believe that we were in America.
	I've never seen anything like that before, because there's fires being started, there's fights everywhere, like... What about my time at MIU, where I was pepper-sprayed and you were arrested?
	What if you hadn't fought that day?
	Oh no, I was, yeah, what they did was strategically get me away from the police, so they could have done whatever they wanted.
	And this tall guy needed backup, so I was there surrounded by three other guys and him.
	And if you had just sat there and said, guys, look, this is a huge misunderstanding.
	Yeah.
	You'd be dead.
	Well, because that's how it started.
	They were like, if you're not a racist, say Black Lives Matter.
	I was like, Black Lives Matter.
	Whatever.
	All right.
	And what's next?
	And they were like, yeah, we'll fucking.
	Yeah, they weren't trying to hear it.
	They're not trying to talk.
	So, yeah, I think when you haven't been to one of these things and you hear me say, just punch Antifa, they think I'm saying go up to them on the bus and just start wailing on them.
	No, what I'm saying is they're not just standing in Ben Shapiro's way, they're attacking people.
	It's a war zone.
	Yeah, and they have weapons.
	They have, like, Lauren Southern, I was talking about her being drenched in piss and someone sent me a letter and they're like, I was with Lauren Southern at Berkeley and an M-80 bounced off her head.
	A major firecracker, lucky she had a helmet on.
	Anyway, go ahead.
	Responsible for foolish and short-sighted and just a dumb way to talk.
	So then you have the Antifa groups.
	That's a lot, dude.
	That are engaging in the same thing.
	You know, the famous bike lock basher incident where a guy showed up, hit seven people over there with a bike lock.
	They subsequently released his name.
	I'm gonna leave that out for the time being.
	You have other groups like... Eric Cantwell, wasn't it?
	Was it Eric Cantwell?
	Yeah, that sounds familiar.
	Wait.
	Bike lock professor?
	Racha.
	Eric Clanton.
	Eric Clanton.
	Fuck.
	Go ahead.
	I mean, it's necessary.
	You have in Portland, for instance, there are specific branded factions.
	There's the tweet I mentioned earlier, where they doxed ICE agents and they said, do whatever inspires you with this information.
	And I mean, you're tagged in a million times.
	I know you probably can't see it, but you can actually see that some of the tweets and the threat are removed.
	But the main tweet itself from an anti-fascist account linking to a website straight up saying, like, here's the private home details, phone number, addresses of these law enforcement officers is not removed since September.
	So what you end up seeing is, again, to point I think one of the big problems they have in this country is the media, because it was reported that the FBI designated...
	Can you just pause?
	Not only are ICE agents getting doxed with their home addresses, but undercover cops, MS-13 in Long Island, is doxing undercover cops.
	And this, by the way, ignores the part where you don't hear about when cops bust a major heroin deal that's $30,000, and...
	And not only does that guy die for getting caught with the money, but the gangs want to go after the cops who made the arrest.
	So they've got to sleep with a shotgun next to their bed.
	But yeah, don't threaten Antifa.
	Don't make them feel uncomfortable.
	These professor's kids doing the doxing.
	Go ahead.
	It probably was an extremist group, but it was a misinterpretation based, uh, a sheriff wrote a draft saying with, you know, the FBI considers them to be extremists.
	A sheriff?
	Is he Canadian?
	He does it again, dude.
	I have never in my life heard anyone pronounce sheriff wrong.
	A she-riff?
	Is that what Ani DiFranco plays on her acoustic guitar?
	Is Melissa Etheridge the top She-Riffer?
	She-Riff?
	Tim?
	She-Riff?
	I didn't think they would get you there.
	What's up?
	I'm the She-Riff.
	What'd you say?
	That took you a minute.
	But it's not like there's words you don't hear often Yeah, so it's understandable you pronounce them wrong like my dad keeps calling Mao Tse Tung Mayo Mayo But I understand you don't hear Mao in common parlance, but sheriff every fucking movie like sheriffs are everywhere dude Is he from Canada?
	I don't think so.
	They wouldn't explain that away either, huh?
	Yeah, and in Canada, well, in Canada we don't have sheriffs, but we watch television.
	Sure.
	I don't live in Canada, but I know what a mountie is, or a mountie.
	He does it again, by the way, but subtler, a little more subtle second time, because I'm wondering if he's thinking, maybe I should commit to my first pronunciation of it.
	Yeah, you kind of have to, yeah, I don't know what to do.
	If you say a whole other sentence after she riff, Or if you repeat it, you can't do it normal because then it's blatant?
	You know what I would do?
	I would say, and later that same sheriff, and by the way, I call female sheriffs she-riffs.
	That might be a way out of it.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	Sheriff wrote a draft saying, you know, the FBI considers them to be extremists.
	The media then reported hearsay from the sheriff and the FBI came out and said, Wait, what was that?
	He said sheriff again.
	What's your take on it?
	He considers them to be extremists.
	The media then reported hearsay from the sheriff and the FBI came out and said, no, no, no, we never meant to do that.
	That's not true.
	Actually, he's from a really dangerous part of Chicago.
	He's from the south side of Chicago.
	He can say sheriff wherever he wants.
	I think he's part Korean, too.
	But it was a female sheriff.
	Does he think that the female sheriffs are called she-riffs?
	That's funny.
	Yeah, he-riffs are the other ones.
	My pronouns are he-riff and she-riff.
	We were just concerned about violence.
	So the Proud Boys all get purged.
	And again, I think, you know, Gavin's a different story, right?
	If you want to go after the individuals who are associating with that group versus the guy who goes on his show and says outrageous things and goes on Joe's show.
	But then you have Antifa branded cells.
	Like what I mean by that is they have specific names, they sell merchandise, and they're the ones showing up throwing mortar shells into crowds.
	They're the ones showing up with crowbars and bats and whacking people.
	I was in Boston, and there was a rally where conservatives were planning on putting on a rally.
	It was literally just, like, libertarians and conservatives.
	Can you just pause it?
	Have you noticed this is the ultimate difference here?
	Joe, Jack, and Vijay, and I'm sorry for pronouncing your name wrong.
	Vijaya?
	Vijaya, I think.
	Vijaya.
	They don't... Boy, she must have got teased in high school, huh?
	Yeah.
	That's like being named Pen Nels.
	Vidya.
	It could be Vidya.
	J.J., there's a lot of pressure on you to have a beautiful vagina.
	Sure.
	Because if there's anything wrong with it, word's going to get out.
	Well, no, if you could just be like, it's the gold standard.
	I know if you think what you think is a good looking vagina, but this is really what they're supposed to look like.
	That's why it doesn't look the same.
	I would have mine neat as a brush.
	I mean, put some powder on it.
	Maybe even a tiny bit of chapstick on my pussy lips.
	So the word would get out in college or whatever that Vijaya has a beautiful Vijayjay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That would need to happen.
	You have to do that.
	And if you're named Pinos, first date, take some Cialis, make sure, and clean it, clean as a whistle.
	Maybe even, here's a crazy thing I used to do, touch your finger into a thing of honey, and after your dick is insanely spotless, and it's gonna, something might go down within the next 10 minutes, just touch your head, and then roll your foreskin forward.
	Wait, with honey?
	With honey.
	Huh.
	Yep.
	Then the word gets out.
	You ever get any reports back on that?
	Your dick is sweet.
	They would know what I had done and they would laugh.
	Oh, that's fun.
	They'd sort of put in their mouth and go... That's funny.
	Nice try.
	Antifa shows up with crowbars, bats, and balaclavas with weapons, threatening them.
	And so I have to wonder if, you know, these people are allowed to organize in your platform.
	Are you concerned about that?
	Why aren't they being banned when they violate the rules?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	We're concerned about that.
	Two things.
	One, he says, well, these guys are violent.
	They should be banned, too.
	I don't think either of us should be banned.
	And also, why are we in big trouble for being rude to a mob that's right out of Mad Max?
	Like, these guys have crowbars.
	Masks.
	Masks.
	And it's like, you were really rude to them.
	Sorry, I don't want to die.
	It's like they punch a Nazi.
	Die Sith scum.
	Tim Cain.
	We need to fight them on the streets.
	Eric Holder.
	When they go low, we go lower.
	Maxine Waters.
	Harass them at the gas pump.
	Harass them at their homes.
	Hillary Clinton.
	We are not civil.
	Antifa.
	We are not civil.
	All part of the same.
	But no, no, no.
	Proud Boys are violent because they said fight back.
	At your Metropolitan speech, you know, we knew that they were coming.
	We didn't set up, like, a sale on balaclava and black clothes, like, for sale sign across the street to, like, try and, like, honeypot them in and, like, lure them in.
	They found us.
	People paid to go see that thing.
	They do talks all the time.
	That Anarchist Handbook guy goes across the country doing talks.
	No one shows up to fuck with him.
	That's weird.
	No one whips bottles, glass bottles, of urine at them.
	True dat.
	All right, go ahead.
	Yeah, I designated them as a domestic terrorist.
	Yes.
	I'm sorry, Homeland Security in New Jersey has listed them under domestic terrorism.
	Okay.
	So I understand there's a conundrum in that the general concept of anti-fascism is a loose term that means you oppose fascism.
	Right.
	But Antifa is now, they have a flag.
	They've had a flag since the Soviet, you know, Nazi Germany in the Soviet era, and they've brought it back.
	There are specific groups that I'm not going to mention by name that have specific names, and they sell merchandise.
	They've appeared in various news outlets.
	They've expressed their desire to use violence to suppress speech.
	Is it a centralized organization the same way that I I hear you on Proud Boys but like where they have like tenants that are written out and there's a leader and like We have tenants written out all clubs do and they don't we don't have a fucking leader like you're the one in charge of all this and you thought that the FBI designated them as a hate group and I You think there's a leader, and you think there's this centralized force.
	Now, I understand, you know, someone's aunt thinking that, but if you are 100% in charge of the group, like, couldn't she have called me and asked, hey, are you the leader of this group?
	Or couldn't she have contacted an actual Proud Boy?
	See, the difference between Joe, Jack, and Tim is that Tim goes to these things, And this is what Charles Murray predicted in his book, Coming Apart.
	He said, we don't go to things.
	We don't get involved.
	We are sitting at home, looking at this through YouTube, through the prism of someone else's narrative, and then agreeing with them.
	You can't do that.
	You have to go to the thing.
	You have to go to the thing or shut your mouth.
	And if you're going to be in charge of determining who gets to say what, you have to be a little more thorough, I'm afraid.
	All right, go ahead.
	Same, but there are specific branded cells.
	That's why I bring them up specifically.
	I realize, you know, someone showing up to a rally wearing a black hoodie and sunglasses, who are you going to ban?
	But there are groups that organize, specifically call for violence.
	They push the line as lightly as possible.
	They advocate sabotage and things like this.
	And, you know, when the Proud Boys go out and get into fights, they're not getting into fights with themselves.
	And I should point out that they decided to call for violence based on Antifa calling for violence.
	And based on Antifa actually actively committing violence against conservative people that were there to see different people speak.
	Well it partly started because in Berkeley there was a Trump rally.
	So actually after Milo got chased out of the Berkeley there was $100,000 in damages.
	I mean there's a video of some guy in all black cracking someone on the back who's on the ground looking like they're unconscious.
	So these conservatives see this, and they decide to hold a rally saying, we won't back down.
	They hold a rally in Berkeley, and then Antifa shows up.
	Again, I understand you can't figure out who these people are for the most part.
	They're decentralized.
	But then this incites an escalation.
	You then get the rise of the based stick man, they called it.
	This guy shows up in armor with a stick, and he starts swinging back.
	And now you have two factions forming.
	So while I recognize it's much easier to ban a top-down group, There are, you know, the difference I guess is, when you look at the Proud Boys, it's straight, top-down, vertical.
	You look at Antifa, and there's different cells of varying size, and they're different accounts.
	So I'd have to, like, I guess the argument I could make is, if you're gonna ban the Proud Boys, by all means, under your justification, but if you look at a specific channel that's got 20,000 followers, that cheers them on, right?
	These are people who throw mortar shells into crowds.
	Isn't that advocating for, you know, terrorism, incitement to violence?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	This by the way is an old Canadian trick where you say, uh, absolutely.
	Yes.
	And that's something we definitely have to look into.
	Like she's, she indicates on this thing that she's going to ban Vic Berger and bring me back.
	And that's a great way to get through that podcast.
	And to get high fives from everyone.
	It's not going to happen in a million years.
	There's no way they're going to have me back.
	But it's a good it's a good way to sort of just sort of grease the wheels and get things going and to look reasonable.
	Like I did this show on the CBC Canadian Broadcasting Corporation a million years ago and It was about capitalism and how we've commodified everything including you know Che Guevara and everything is capitalism capitalism and the free market has ruined everything and and they've marketed Rebellion.
	And I said, isn't it kind of weird that you're sitting here bashing capitalism as you sit on the taxpayer trough feeding and feeding from taxpayer dollars?
	And she looked kind of shocked.
	And the interview wrapped up soon after that.
	And I would call the producers and say, when is that going to air?
	And they go, oh, yeah, there's a vacation coming up.
	So it's not going to air now.
	It's going to air.
	And she just kind of bored me to death.
	What's obviously going on here is that there's two standards.
	There's one standard for people who are on the Trump side, and that is you may not fart on a Sunday.
	So this is another way to get through this.
	It's obviously, what's obviously going on here is that there's two standards.
	There's one standard for people who are on the Trump side, and that is you may not fart on a Sunday.
	And then there's another side for people who are not on the Trump side, and that is you can beat the living shit out of people and call for violence and fuck kids.
	And go to people's homes and throw bricks through their windows and we'll get over it.
	as long as you don't help Trump get reelected.
	And that's why social media is in so much trouble because everyone thinks they helped Trump get elected.
	Because they go, we controlled everything else, we controlled the TV and newspapers and everything, and he still won.
	So it must have been the one place where he was allowed to speak, and that was Twitter.
	I guess the question is, how come they don't get removed?
	Well, in the past when we've looked at Antifa, we ran into this decentralization issue, which is we weren't able to find the same type of information that we were able to find about Proud Boys, which was a centralized, leadership-based documentation of what they stand for.
	But absolutely, I mean, it's something that we'll continue to look into, and to the extent that they're using Twitter to organize any sort of offline violence, that's completely prohibited under our rules, and we would Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	She's talking about how they were able to be centralized and see exactly what our rules are.
	Our rules, the ten things she's talking about, these tenets, she's indicating they say like, kick the shit out of Antifa, kick the shit... The tenets say, stop the drug war, venerate the housewife, glorify the entrepreneur, recognize the West is the best, promote free speech, Um, did I say venerate the housewife?
	It's all basic stuff like that.
	There's nothing remotely offensive about it.
	It sounds like Barack Obama's platform, basically.
	Alright, go ahead.
	Would I ask you why Gavin was banned?
	Was there a specific thing that he did, or was it his association with the Proud Boys?
	His association with the Proud Boys.
	You know, he's abandoned that.
	He's not only that, he's disassociated himself with it and said that it completely got out of hand and he doesn't want to have anything to do with it.
	Just pause.
	That annoys me.
	I never said it got totally out of hand.
	I said, you've put my men in a cage.
	Big John is looking at a year in prison.
	And that's because he's being accused of being in a gang.
	The way you obfuscate the gang narrative is you take away this so-called leader.
	That's what the lawyers told me to do.
	I never said, Oh, these guys, I don't want anything to do with them.
	In fact, in the video I did, which was meticulous, I made it very clear.
	I said, I hate that I have to do this.
	I think it's violating my free speech and it's violating my freedom of association.
	Are we running out of time?
	Nope.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and I think this is a great, again, test case for how we think about getting people back on the platform in the long term.
	Yeah, he's an interesting case, because he's really a provocateur, and he fancies himself sort of a punk rocker, and he likes stirring shit.
	I mean, when he came on my show last time he was on, he was dressed up like Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
	He did it on purpose.
	He brought a briefcase and everything.
	I'm like, what are you doing?
	He's like, I'm Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
	He's a showman in many ways, and he did not mean for this to go the way it went.
	He thought it would be this sort of innocent, fun thing to be a part of, and then other people got involved.
	And when people call for violence, The problem is they think that you're going to just hit people and that's going to solve a problem.
	It just creates a much more comprehensive problem.
	It's important to point out Gavin has said things way worse than Alex Jones ever did.
	Sure.
	Whether you want to say it's a joke or not.
	This whole idea that violence... I get accused of saying fighting solves everything, like I invented it.
	That's at every boxing gym.
	It's on t-shirts.
	I mean, look it up.
	It's a common blue-collar saying that upper-middle class people have never heard before.
	And I'll never forget when I was a young man in Canada, in Ottawa, there was Nazi skinheads fucking everywhere.
	And it was because the government started a thing called the Heritage Foundation to weed out Nazis.
	There was maybe three.
	And they started this group that would have seminars and meetings so they could get all these names together.
	But what they ended up doing was fomenting, just like the SPLC, fomenting hate where there was none.
	And the next thing you know, thanks to government money, There's all these kids going, yeah, I'll try out this Nazi thing, and then we'd go to a show and there'd be five Nazis, like, I'm not talking about the Nazis that we see today, where they go, that guy's a mega-hat on, he's a Nazi.
	I'm talking about guys like Francois, who had, this is near Quebec, obviously.
	Klansman galloping into battle on his back.
	His whole back was Klansman, or wolf, with his rapier in his cane.
	You know, they had swastika tattoos.
	Joff, Ottawa's Joff, had an entire, um, uh, what do you call it when you got tons of guns?
	Like an arsenal?
	Arsenal, sorry.
	He had a whole arsenal of guns that he got from going down south and sneaking them back over the border.
	Like, these guys were legit fucking evil dudes.
	And, um... Did they ever hurt anybody or kill anybody, though?
	Just wondering.
	They'd beat the shit out of people.
	They'd beat the shit out of me.
	They'd take your boots.
	You weren't allowed to have Dr. Martens if you weren't a Nazi skinhead.
	So, there was a gang called Bunch of Fucking Goofs.
	And they weren't really a gang, like the way bikers can sell meth and stuff.
	It was just like a club, really.
	And, uh, they had a, they lived in this big punk house and there was pitbulls everywhere and school buses.
	They had a school bus, I should say, and they had bikes everywhere, like piled up to the ceiling.
	And, um.
	They got in their school bus, they beat up all the Nazi skinheads in Toronto, they beat up all the Nazi skinheads in Ottawa, and they beat up all the Nazi skinheads in Montreal, and boom.
	We never saw a Nazi skinhead ever again.
	So I don't think Joe's exactly right about this thing where punching, fighting never solves anything.
	I think sometimes it does a pretty good job.
	Fight, back, and resist.
	That's the Antifa thing.
	Everybody says it.
	Fight, resist, fight back.
	They always talk about fucking killing us.
	And the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
	And by the way, when they say that, they're not talking about the Nazis I was just talking about.
	They're talking about people they disagree with.
	Alright, go ahead.
	He said things like, you know, choke them, punch them.
	By the way, you see the article where I was called a Nazi by name?
	No.
	My picture's in it and everything.
	I'll show you later.
	Yeah, I did say choke a tranny.
	I was talking about a tranny.
	Like, show the context, Tim.
	But I guess was the primary reason for getting rid of them was what you thought that the FBI had designated them an extremist group?
	No, because we did it months in advance.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, I was just pointing that out.
	So it was just his association with the Proud Boys?
	I don't recall, and I would have to go back and I don't want to misstate things, I don't recall whether those statements that you're referring to of Gavin's were on Twitter.
	So, they weren't.
	There's another, you know, when it comes to the weaponization of rules against, like, Gavin isn't creating a compilation of things he's ever said out of context and then sending them around to get himself banned.
	Other people are doing that to him, activists who don't like him, and it's effective.
	In fact, I would actually like to point out, there's one particular user who has repeatedly made fake videos attacking one of your other high-profile conservatives, so much so that he's had to file police reports, harassment complaints, and it just doesn't stop.
	He's talking about Berger, right?
	He's talking about Berger, and Berger tweeted this, and he goes, here's Tim Pool defaming me.
	All he's saying is that you doxed Jack Posobiec's wedding, you doxed the Night of Freedom, where a man was almost killed, how do you dox a public event?
	Well, Mike Cernovich has to keep the location secret until the 11th hour, and then he gives it out that day.
	And Vic was happy to publicize that so he almost got a man killed.
	And he's making videos where he subs in crying sounds implicating Mike is beating his daughter.
	Like the guy's facing criminal charges for this and now that's defaming him?
	He's a mentally ill weirdo.
	Yeah.
	I didn't even watch his last rebuttal when I was just like, I don't care.
	Yeah, you kind of reach an end.
	Did you watch it?
	No.
	Yeah, it's just, it looked like shit.
	It started out all like pompous and weird.
	Like, I'm not watching that shit.
	You know, so I guess I'll ask this to this regard.
	If someone repeatedly makes videos of you out of context, fake audio, accusing you of doing things you've never done, at what point is that bannable?
	Yeah, again, if it's targeted harassment and we can establish it, it's just a really hard thing with us determining whether something is fake or not.
	Well, it's also when things are out of context, you still have video of the person saying that.
	I agree that it's out of context and it's disingenuous, but it's still the person saying it and you're making a compilation of some pre-existing audio or video.
	So I think in the instance of Gavin, like one of the things he said was like a call to violence, but he was talking about, uh, like it was in the context of talking about a dog and being scolded.
	Yeah.
	So he was like, hit him, just hit him.
	And then it's like, it turns out he was talking about a dog, like doing something wrong and they take that and they snip it.
	And then it goes viral.
	And then everyone starts flagging saying, you got to ban this guy.
	So again, I understand you like, you know, but, uh, I guess the issue is if, if people keep doing that to destroy someone's life.
	So, so I think there's a, there's a bigger discussion.
	I think, um, both of you could probably shed some important light on two outside of Twitter.
	This weaponization of content from platforms is being used to get people banned from their banking accounts.
	You know, they're getting... That's a whole other subject, so you can listen to it.
	We're not gonna... He brings up Martina, actually.
	I keep forgetting that she had her bank account taken away.
	I'm always listening to them and I always forget her.
	They said, we are ending our relationship.
	That's what they said.
	Oh, they were fucking her?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	She can continue to bank with us.
	My bank's fucking me.
	They don't let me get away with overcharging.
	We will continue to let her use Chase, but we will not be fucking her ever again.
	Nor going to dinner or anything like that.
	We will be taking it slow.
	No movie nights.
	We need some time alone.
	But by all means, continue to have an account here.
	Yeah, we're not... What are we, fucking Nazis?
	What are we, not a bank?
	Are you crazy?
	You think we're political activists all of a sudden?
	Yeah, so Laura Loomer got kicked off Chase, Joe Biggs, I'm kicked off PayPal, and then Martina Mercota kicked off Chase.
	Oh, and Enrico Tarrio lost two bank accounts.
	Isn't that amazing?
	So yeah, they put a picture of me, and this is a new article, and they're like, uh, he's half-Japanese, half-Puerto Rican, full-blooded Nazi.
	And then, if you scroll through, there's also, at the end of it, it's like, yes, Nazis are black, yes, Nazis are Mexican, and yes, now they're Japanese-Puerto Rican.
	Well, they were Japanese in the 40s.
	That makes sense.
	We're honorary Aryans in World War II.
	Which I'm not proud of.
	I mean, that's not cool.
	What was the Japanese stance on Jews?
	Because I know, like back in World War II, I mean, I know Mussolini wasn't into the whole genocide thing.
	He's like, I love this fascism, but what the fuck are you doing, Adolf?
	I'm not doing that to my Jews.
	I believe that's what he said.
	I believe it was a bone of contention between the two fascists.
	How are we doing for time?
	Doing good.
	Yeah, so it's hard to gauge the zeitgeist and especially when you're in the center of it, but I definitely feel like things are changing.
	I think that these cunts, these tepid cunts who got everyone kicked off social media are realizing that they just took all the flavor out of the food and now it's this big NPC Non-playable character mess where there's no fun and nothing interesting going on and they took down a bunch of innocent people while looking on the hunt for these bonafide Nazis and You know Don't call them cowards or hypocrites too.
	I hate that.
	They don't care about that.
	Call them Nazis.
	Call the SPLC a hate group.
	That's the only language they understand and they are a hate group.
	They do create hate where there was none.
	Um, but we'll, it'll be interesting to see what happens with this lawsuit.
	Alright, should we go to the scrotum?
	Yeah!
	How much time do we have?
	I didn't know we were scroting it up, the scrotum.
	I got some scrotum too.
	You got some scrotes?
	I got some scrotes.
	Scrotes.
	Scrotes my goats, that's my Jack Black impression.
	I wish my wife loved me as much as gays love gays.
	Chillo, it's a gay.
	Imagine you came, imagine your wife was like, I'm taking a watercolor course.
	Can I paint your cock?
	Like, can I just paint you nude?
	That's fun.
	And you just be like, ah, babe, come on, really?
	Please, your body is just, oh God, your, even your bag.
	Can I paint, can I do a drawing of your bag?
	I guess while I'm watching Tucker, but wrap it up, okay?
	Make it snappy.
	I don't have time for all this constant lust.
	Jesus Christ, honey.
	I've known you since 2001.
	Get over the gav.
	You know?
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Meanwhile, she's more like Sandra Bullock in the movie Gravity, you know what I mean?
	You know what I mean by that?
	In space and hovering around?
	Yeah, zero G's.
	Oh, gotcha.
	You just came up with that today.
	You're proud of that.
	I'm pretty proud of that.
	It's pretty cool.
	It's not as good as my rush joke.
	It's also zero laughs.
	You know what I like to do at a restaurant or a bar when I'm like, can I get a drink when you get a chance?
	I'll always say, I'm like a girl's record collection.
	No rush.
	Ah, that's good.
	Yeah.
	By the way, Lent starts today, no maker's mark for 40 goddamn days.
	And they go, wait, you said you're quitting booze, but you're still drinking beer.
	Beer's not booze.
	I could drink one billion beers.
	But the very definition of a beer, the mathematical definition of it is you can't get enough in you to get wasted.
	It takes about 20.
	It's sort of like getting drunk on non-alcoholic beers.
	It's the same thing.
	I went on Keith Maresca's boat with Anthony once to see like the 4th of July or whatever it was, Memorial Day.
	And I must've drank 20 beers.
	I pissed.
	I raised the level of the Long Island Sound.
	And?
	Nope.
	Zero buzz.
	But it's gonna be sad.
	Basically, I'm not gonna be drunk for 40 days.
	I bet I'll get a lot of work done.
	We'll see.
	Okay, here's a letter from a guy named Bobby, who liked my talking about punk, and he thinks that punk sucks now and is too PC.
	Thank you, Tommy.
	Bobby, I mean.
	Here's one from an actual Tommy.
	Dude, you forgot to tell the story about you and your friends hiding in the trees yelling each other's names.
	Okay.
	I'll play that greatest hit.
	So I'm about 18 and I'm walking, you do a lot of walking in the suburbs in Canada and we're walking down some random highway road and we're bored.
	I guess I don't even know where the hell we're going.
	Maybe we heard about a party and you know there's no Uber or anything and a lot of times you don't get to borrow your parents car and the buses in the suburbs run about once every hour and a half so you do a lot of walking.
	So we're doing a lot of walking.
	And we're by a highway.
	Not really a highway, more like a parkway.
	And I say to my buddy Steve, can you imagine if someone just fucking threw a big cinder block at one of these cars that are whipping by?
	And maybe ten seconds after I say that... What?
	What the fuck?
	No.
	He picked up a cinder block and threw it at a moving fucking car.
	That's attempted murder, BTW.
	Yeah.
	So I go, holy shit!
	And the car goes into the gravel, stops.
	About a football team get out.
	Now he's already like, come on!
	We run.
	We run through a ditch up a hill to this forest of really tall pine trees and what do you do?
	You just scale up the tree.
	Thank God they didn't have search dogs with them.
	So these giant monster jock hoser hockey players I've chased us into the forest.
	We're only about 15 feet in, by the way.
	And I'm approximately one mile up.
	I'm just, the thing is about as thick as a human finger where I am, and I'm swaying in the wind.
	And he's maybe 100 feet away, also holding onto a finger.
	Like if we, we could not be higher.
	We couldn't see the ground, we were so high.
	And we hear like, where are they?
	Fucking over here, come on!
	Yeah, I don't see him.
	I think they went this way, motherfuckers!
	And we're pooping our pants.
	And then, of course, time flies.
	And you ask yourself, when is it safe to come down?
	Now, if I was a jock who was almost murdered, I'd say, let's sit here all night, boys.
	I want to kill these guys who tried to kill us.
	In my old age, now that I have kids, I'd probably just say, let's take them into the police and arrest them for attempted murder.
	But back then, I would have just pounded them within an inch of their life and that would have been that.
	Which I kind of miss those days in a way, where we didn't have to call the cops or everything and men would just fight and shake hands and go home.
	Like that was right up to the 90s.
	Anyway, after maybe an hour, we think it's safe to come down.
	And so I start coming down and then I think, wait a minute, uh, I want to be able to scurry back up because I can fight guys who are coming up a tree.
	I just kicked them in the head.
	But I can't take on eight jocks on land.
	So I'm down to about 12 feet off the ground.
	I don't say anyone.
	And then I want to call out to Steve, but for some reason, the word Steve, well, that's might help incriminate him.
	So holding onto the tree, I just go, Steve!
	And then from about 40 feet away, I hear, And then no one jumps out to kill us, so then I continue down, and I'm standing there, and it's sort of like Marco Polo at this point.
	So I'm sort of skulking through the forest, going, stop!
	And then he's like, stop!
	And then I go, stop!
	He goes, stop!
	- Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve.
	Oh, Jesus, man.
	Holy shit, what are you out of your mind?
	He goes, I don't know what I was thinking.
	Don't ever tell anyone I did that.
	And I go, I don't, I swear to God, I'll never tell this story ever again.
	Holy shit, dude.
	They could have died.
	We could have died.
	Yeah, I know.
	Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
	Then the laughing comes in.
	And that was, that's the story that Tommy asked for.
	That is tense.
	Jesus, we've been getting way too many letters.
	The good news is, about half these letters are, I just flew home from, and we will be reciting zero of those.
	Well, I have a would you rather.
	Alright, that's a new subject.
	Would you always be running late for your flight with potential to miss it every single time?
	Or, every time you get on an elevator, it's completely packed with people, and it makes stops on every floor before your destination.
	That's Evan.
	That's a pretty good one.
	Yeah.
	It's just a bum- like, those are just two big bummers.
	You gotta think, what do I do more, fly or elevate?
	I think I would go with flying.
	Am I running pre-security?
	Ah, fuck.
	That's a really good one.
	That one bothers me.
	I'd take the elevator one.
	Yeah, every floor though.
	Think about you're on vacation, dude.
	You're at the Hard Rock Hotel and you're on the ninth floor.
	Bing!
	But then you would just, in advance, you'd be like, I need the second floor.
	Bing!
	Bing!
	Yeah, maybe I'm now leaning a little more to the elevator because flying is stressful.
	I might take the stairs.
	Anyway.
	All right.
	This is from Tyler.
	I'm a huge fan.
	Love to hear more about parenting.
	Well, we're not going to do that now, but I'm not a good parent.
	I'm just very present, but I don't think the kids really enjoy my company that much.
	One thing I would say is when you have three kids, they tend to get lost in the shuffle.
	And I think you need to have, and I'm not great at this, by the way, do as I say, not as I do, designated time.
	So you make sure when your daughter is walking her dog, you're with her.
	Or even like a night.
	Monday night is with this kid, Tuesday night is with this kid, Wednesday night is with this kid.
	And you guys, just the two of you, go out, go bowling, go to the batting cage, something like that.
	And just have some alone time.
	Especially when they start getting into teens.
	And they may have a question for you that is going to take a while to come out.
	Um, this guy's named Nicholas and he has a gayer sentence than, I like your new sunglasses!
	Um, he's, he, uh, he's friends with a, we're at a guy's house and, uh, they're by the garage and a cat ran past and it startled me.
	And I said, whoa, that cat surprised me.
	My friend's friend then stared off into the distance and somberly said, that cat has gotten me through a lot of hard times.
	That is the gayest thing you could ever say.
	I left immediately.
	I think this guy's right.
	Hmm.
	I think that cat has gotten me through a lot of hard times.
	It's gayer than I like your new sunglasses.
	And again, this has nothing to do with homosexuality.
	Here's some... Amber from Alabama would like us to do her flu back joke and the answer's no.
	Timothy McArdle wants to know if it's gay to smell fragrance samples in a magazine like GQ.
	The answer is yes, not gay homosexual, gay lame, and all perfume sucks and fuck you.
	Women, old ladies, you having perfume on in a plane is the same as farting.
	And Ryan Katsu Rivera, you wearing cologne in my car is exactly the same as farting in my car.
	I don't like perfume.
	Perfume is a lie.
	It's a chemist from Eastern Europe who got a job at CVS and he makes fake fucking flowers to go up my nose.
	Why soap?
	Is perfume and flower scented?
	I have no idea.
	I'm trying to smell if I still have dog shit on my finger.
	And you just put perfume all over it.
	Don't hide it!
	I need to know the information!
	I wear Arm & Hammer scentless baking powder deodorant.
	It's the best.
	You never smell anything.
	Scents are already there.
	Go for a walk in the forest.
	It's full of scents.
	God made tons of cool smells.
	Stop letting a chemist create your fucking floral aura olfactory universe.
	I like it.
	No, you don't.
	I got a mean one.
	Uh-oh.
	It's different, that's the only reason why I say it.
	I just flew back from Bleeding... Hey, no, no, no, no, we're not doing them!
	We're not doing them.
	I thought you had a mean letter.
	I'll be doing these on my podcast on my Patreon.com slash ThatJaparekin.
	How many suckers have you got on that thing?
	You pronounce subscribers very oddly.
	How many she-riffs do you got on that?
	Let me shake well, you don't have to give me 30 33 33 and what do they pay you?
	$3 each some of them opt to pay a little more that's fine So I get you know, and how is it different from you standing on the street with a hat?
	It's doing little songs because I can't play them Exclusive videos that I produce and that are pretty cool plugging you're begging I Okay, this guy that we made fun of his vocabulary earlier, he says, I do speak, his name's Philip, I do speak concisely and with verbosity, but this isn't, we're in a place on the map where the natives are on the edge of illiteracy.
	Okay, dude, you spelled verbosity wrong.
	It's not E-Y.
	And I know I'm a grammar Nazi, but this is right after you said that people are illiterate.
	I love when people do that, like that proud boy Nick Oakes, who said that an Australian guy goes, I'm currently at some fucking stupid SJW college where everyone's an idiot, and he spelled college collage.
	We talked about that before, right?
	I think so.
	Alright, are these getting boring?
	No.
	I'm interested in these.
	All right.
	My name is JC from Idaho.
	You said the ideal situation in marriage is for two people to be virgins when they get married, and then you said something like those types of people probably aren't listening to your podcast.
	I'm 22, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
	I've never done drugs, drunk alcohol.
	I'm a virgin, and I've only ever kissed two girls.
	I asked myself, yeah, why do I listen to Gavin?
	I think the absolute best way to know something is to learn from a mistake.
	And I wouldn't give up my list of beliefs or anything, but you've made a lot of mistakes, and I never will.
	And I feel like I'm missing out on that experience.
	I never will feel like I'm missing out on that experience.
	You seem to fess up to your mistakes, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay.
	That's a fun angle.
	Well, here's an interesting one from Jessica.
	Hey, idiot.
	That was mean.
	But New York has calloused my emotions, so I feel nothing.
	I'm from Venezuela.
	Maduro was not elected by us.
	He had sham elections.
	Imagine if Trump, after losing the house, made up his own house and said the actual house has no power and it is not legit.
	The reason for the U.S.
	and all Western countries to support a transition of power to have actual free elections that are not a sham are to stop the narco government we have right now.
	A big amount of drugs pouring in the U.S.
	come from Venezuela.
	So I don't know, it might be a good idea to do something about it since our government took our guns and are killing people.
	Alright, valid point, valid point.
	Oh, we've got a flew back joke from Constantine that we will be ignoring.
	Here's one from Jeff.
	The other day, Jim Norton brought up a memory he never mentioned on air.
	He said when he was six years old, a kid his age tried to force anal sex on him.
	Doesn't take a psychotherapist to tell he was repeatedly molested as a kid.
	Hence of his characters.
	I don't know what the hell that means.
	That's valid, right?
	Poor bastard.
	You know, it's funny, you hear these queer theorists talk about how children need the right to love, and a lot of these far, far left anarchists will talk about pedophilia and NAMBLA and free speech and how children are sexual beings.
	Okay, then why do they all need therapy after they're molested, if it's such a beautiful, natural thing?
	Because it's deeply traumatizing.
	Well, here's one from Matt.
	Hey Gavin, I was waiting for your new episode to come out and didn't see anything.
	So I visited your podcast page on my Apple app and saw that I had been unsubscribed somehow.
	I resubscribed, but it seems like Apple is being shady.
	Just thought I'd let you know.
	Yeah, that's an interesting way to bring up that Tim Cook from Apple has donated big, big bucks, millions to the SPLC.
	And the ADL.
	He's big on that.
	Isn't he the one who recently said that it would be blasphemous to not fight hate at his platform or something like that?
	Like he made it a religious crusade.
	What's that supposed to mean?
	I got some hate mail.
	Okay.
	Uh, fuck you, Ryan Katsu Rivera.
	Dude, come on, figure it out.
	You're so bad at talking.
	Stop saying, hmm, ah, yeah, I know what you mean, etc.
	Just listen and respond.
	Also, how about trying to disagree for once?
	Maybe you should study the material you're talking about before going on the podcast.
	You sound so clueless and dumb.
	Gavin, great stuff.
	Keep it up.
	Here's a really mean one about you.
	Okay.
	From Luke.
	That was Brett, by the way.
	by the way.
	It's really nice of you to let Ryan on your podcast.
	Did you get him from make a wish or was he able to contact you directly?
	I doubt since he can't seem to operate your equipment either way, it clearly makes him happy for a few hours.
	You can tell he's got something wrong with him from his facial hair.
	If you ignore the rest of him, he looks like an outcast 13 year old Asian who shits himself in the back of the classroom and always stinks of dried sweat.
	Holy turdies.
	That's fucking in depth.
	Also, you may have heard or said this earlier, but Ryan's laugh sounds exactly like that of a fat, retarded eight-year-old who has just seen a balloon rocking back and forward, clapping.
	With all that, though, he's a decent bloke and he works with what he was given, so fair play to him.
	That guy just gave himself away as British.
	This guy Lars wants to point out that no wanks is literally magic.
	I'm cutting a lot of these short.
	This is from Amanda.
	You know, it's funny, we did the stats, the demographics on our show, and it's like 90% male, maybe 95, 5% female, but the letters are like 60% female.
	Yeah, I got an Ashley here.
	Maybe women are more likely to write a letter.
	Maybe, yeah.
	I got Anna, Ashley... Dude, are you sure we're good for time?
	Yeah, it's still recording.
	Okay.
	Um... I thought this is from some chick named Amanda.
	I thought you were an edgy comedian, but after much more exposure, I really heard what you were trying to tell people.
	You were the catalyst that changed me from a liberal Democrat to the conservative I am now.
	I'm abstaining from streaming video and podcasts for Lent, so I'll miss these next 40 days.
	Figured I should take this moment to let you know how impactful you've been in my life.
	See, that's just me being a megalomaniac, reading letters like that.
	I should keep that to myself.
	Um, hey Gavin, this is from Eric M. When you talk about your straight, aged, worn out asshole, I can't help but shake my head knowingly at my iPhone.
	I agree with you a lot.
	But never so fervently as when you talk about your butthole.
	I too have the asshole of someone twice my age.
	Sometimes at work I sit and wipe until it's literally bleeding.
	Yeah, I think it might be our alcoholism, guys.
	Because I got a lot of these letters.
	One of them was as young as 19.
	And the only advice I can give is try to get all your morning diarrheas out before you leave the house and make sure they're all on your toilet that has a Biffy.
	That's a free sponsorship.
	They're not paying me.
	Biffy.com.
	B-I-F-F-Y.
	It's really changed my life.
	And here's some guy named Tobin telling me to push on my taint after I'm done peeing to avoid that.
	No matter how you shake your peg, the last wee drop runs down your leg.
	Yeah, I'm not looking for tips.
	I'm aware of the taint pushing tip.
	I don't, I don't want to get down there with that kind of intensity.
	I'm not giving birth every time I take a pee.
	Um, Okay, more flattery.
	That doesn't interest you.
	Here's one that bothered me.
	Hey man, I'm at Political Science at Bard College and I do research on the Proud Boys.
	I want to interview you, if you're willing.
	Yes?
	When I was in school, you couldn't just call the people you were writing about.
	It's sort of like that Woody Allen movie where they're arguing about some playwright and he's in the lineup with them.
	And he goes, that's not what I meant at all.
	Like, you don't get to just call... Hi, I'm doing an article about Rancid.
	Can I talk to Tim Armstrong, please, about his songwriting?
	Like, you go read about it.
	You don't get to talk to the fucking guy.
	Another one complaining about their butthole.
	Here's an interesting one from Nicola.
	Is it immoral to have sex with someone who's in a relationship?
	I met this chat chick last week in a bar, she riff.
	We made out a shit ton and I was pushing for her to go back to my place, blah, blah, blah.
	Anyways, after a lot more come on and not going to happen from her, we ended up at my place and had a good night.
	Now we are negotiating a term for a second round and we'd both like to continue doing this.
	She feels bad for cheating, but she still wants it with me and doesn't want to break up with this guy.
	I feel really bad for this guy.
	Is it moral for me to continue to do this?
	What do you guys think?
	Let's hear Gavin and his Christian values.
	You want to know what I think about that?
	To quote Louis CK, you're not married, nothing matters.
	You could die and no one would give a shit.
	So if there's no ring on it, who cares?
	Go ahead, cheat it up.
	If she's in a situation where she can leave her man, then they don't have a good relationship.
	You dig?
	What do you think, Ryan?
	You're younger.
	Well, it matters if you don't want to, like, hurt the other person, then you don't cheat on them.
	That's all.
	What?
	Who are we talking about here?
	Should you fuck someone who has a boyfriend?
	No.
	I disagree.
	You should not.
	That's not your problem.
	No, I'm not saying you, I wouldn't, I'm just saying you shouldn't.
	No, look, if this is a bad example, because I'm married, but if I wasn't married, and I was just dating my wife, and Eva Mendes came up to me and said, can I just blow you please?
	It would be an honor.
	I wouldn't pack up my bags and say, let's go, honey.
	You know?
	No, exactly.
	And if I could, then it showed that their relationship wasn't... I don't know.
	Yeah, I know what you mean.
	Pat Dixon always says, like, the best thing a friend could do for you is fuck your wife, because then it exposes the fact that she would have done that.
	Yeah, we were talking, I won't name names, but Ryan and I were talking about a buddy of ours and how horrible it would be if his girlfriend of many years hit on us.
	She didn't.
	But if she did, like, the first reaction would be, oh, fucking no!
	I would just run far away.
	I would just start crying.
	Oh, really?
	I would go, oh, great.
	Well, that's the end of that.
	Fine.
	I would run.
	Someone wants us to do a podcast about scams people have tried to run on us.
	I haven't really come across that many.
	Well, the last one, that pyramid scheme scheme stuff.
	The pots and pans?
	Yeah, for me it was this juice with like goby berries or something.
	You sound kind of bored of this podcast.
	No, I'm just taking in all the criticisms here.
	It's kind of chipping away at the old self esteem.
	I'm literally physically sulking.
	Like I'm slouched down in my fucking stupid chair.
	Well, who cares?
	Well, I got one for you.
	Oh, good.
	Here we go.
	Uh, subject is Gavin Ufag.
	Okay.
	Hey, Gavin.
	Why do you pronounce words as if you're a British aristocrat?
	You say ugly America over the elite media class, yet you say and do things like an aristocrat.
	First, on your last podcast, you said the word tish-su, like tis-you, not tish-you.
	Also, you played dress-up as a 48 or 49 year old man, trying to look like a country boy or a redneck because you spend more time upstate New York.
	I feel terrible about what happened to you, and I donated a couple...
	Donated and got a couple of my other people to donate to defend Gavin calm But use that excuse to play dress up like a good old boy is lame My mom's family is from the country yada yada yada yada yada yada My country people are going to laugh at you not because your joke dress is funny, but because it's lame all the best The tissues thing that's fine.
	That's valid, but the dressing up no that's fashion Maybe these young millennials with their stupid fucking Carhartt pants on and their sweatshirts all the time, they don't understand what fashion is.
	Well, I like the Carhartt jacket that I got.
	I snowboarded in it.
	It was waterproof.
	I know, I'm making fun of you.
	Oh.
	Yeah, that's not, like, dressing up.
	That cowboy hat's a cool hat.
	I got that from Stockbauer.
	That white suit is a suit I had tailor-made that I love.
	And same with the pink shirt and the boots.
	Yeah, I'm very proud of that outfit.
	I don't even know what dressing up means.
	Dressing up like a brony is fucking lame, or going to Comic Con is lame, but my myriad of fashion influence, I think it may seem gay to different generations, but where I'm from, I think it's just embracing fashion.
	I love fashion.
	I think it's the when in Rome thing too.
	You know, like when you're in Florida, you wear like the... Yeah, and that's the funnest part about fashion.
	Oh, I'm in the South.
	I get to wear a cowboy hat.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I totally agree with that.
	You're right about the aristocrat shit.
	You're wrong about quote-unquote dressing up.
	And I've worked on a fucking farm.
	You know, when I'm in England, English people are... Maybe it's because I'm British, but like when an old English couple comes to America on a vacation, The man will have a day of shopping.
	Like working class too.
	Or I'm going to go to Century 21 over by the Freedom Tower because they've got a lot of back stock.
	Even the soccer hooligans, when they'd be in Italy, they'd love going down to games in Italy because they had finer fabrics.
	And they would spend a day just getting really nice Italian shirts.
	So fuck you.
	Here's one about Ryan.
	You ready?
	Yeah.
	Number one from Chris.
	Ready for this one?
	Yep.
	Number one.
	Meaning it's his top priority.
	Oh, there's more, there's, this is numbered.
	Yeah.
	Oh, fuck.
	Number one.
	Ryan's laugh is great.
	Aww.
	You hear that?
	Number two.
	Gavin insulting Ryan is great.
	C. I don't want to have a beer with Gavin because I'm family and you enjoy listening.
	IV like for Roman numerals Elon Musk said the name of your show when he hosted meme review for PewDiePie.
	You're kidding.
	We should look that up.
	I don't know or maybe he just Did oh did I ever tell you there's an episode of some FBI show?
	That's all about well.
	It's me and Richard Spencer conflated into one person, and there's the Proud Boys and There's been a couple of these.
	There's been like a law and order, but this was a different one.
	And at one point he goes, I'm too old for this.
	And the other FBI agent says, what, are you going to tell them to get off your lawn?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Did I show that to you?
	No, you told that to me, though.
	You spoke those words upon me.
	I spoke those words?
	You spake them.
	Other point, I spend hours driving and listening to stuff, which is why I'm allowed to listen to PewDiePie.
	And then he's got a bunch of I Just Flew Back jokes, which we will not be reading.
	And then, please keep up the great show so I don't have to listen to PewDiePie.
	So there you go, that's a nice one.
	That is nice.
	Very cool, thank you sir.
	Yeah.
	This one, I like this comparison.
	He said, this is from WV.
	Dear dudes, I think I might have a good comparison, I'm not sure.
	The right wing is Skittles and the left wing is M&M's.
	Both are made of different colors but on the inside they're very different.
	Skittles colors have different flavors and taste great together.
	M&M's are full of the same chocolate and they all taste exactly the same as the last one.
	So is that a good one, or is it kind of retarded?
	Bill from Jersey.
	Well, that's clearly an indication that Mailbag is up, because I was not even listening to that, and I was reading my emails.
	Oh, fuck.
	Well, he also adds a postscript.
	The Mailbag segment is good shit.
	Fuck those naysayers.
	Just not very gripping, apparently, to the host.
	I'm having that email meltdown thing it was doing yesterday.
	Oh, shit.
	Scheisse.
	Scheisse.
	Okay, so let's wrap it up.
	Tomorrow at noon, I hope you don't mind if I step on your Patreon plugin and explain that tomorrow Rebel Media, Rebel's YouTube, is going to have a Super chat with my brother Miles McInnes.
	Miles is outraged that Twitter is considering bringing me back.
	Miles, they're not considering that.
	Calm down.
	They just say that to grease the wheels and move the show along.
	So he'll be doing that at noon, I believe, on Rebel's YouTube.
	You can find out more.
	There'll be a link at nohate.com and you can get on there and you can ask Miles questions.
	You can also pay to guarantee an answer.
	And, uh, what else?
	I think that's about it.
	I don't have a lot going on.
	I've been banned from everything in the world.
	So there's our YouTube page, The Gavin 2000, you can find online.
	That's all new stuff every day.
	There's this podcast.
	I'm working on a bunch of cool stuff.
	And then there is, uh, nohate.com.
	Okay.
	I like you more than a friend.

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