Get Off My Lawn Podcast #109 | This is MAGA Country
The story of Jussie Smollett being gay-bashed by two racists in MAGA hats AND ski masks (how exactly does that work?) is one of the fishiest stories of the year. Was he being stalked and they finally decided to make their move? Why did they ask if he was that “f-—t Empire n——r”? Why do racists care so much about a show they’ve never seen? I’m not saying he’s lying but if this turns out to be a hoax, remember we were among the first to be dubious. However, if it’s true, Gavin commits to a humiliating ritual as an apology for showing skepticism. See inside for more. PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUICK SURVEY! https://survey.libsyn.com/getoffmylawnpod
So Jussie Smollett, who I've never heard of, is a black gay guy who's on the show Empire, which I've never watched.
And he claims that a bunch of guys beat him up, put a noose around his neck, poured bleach on him, and then yelled, this is MAGA country.
He walked himself to the hospital.
We have no video footage of it.
It sounds like a hate crime hoax.
And everyone is running with it.
I scoured Twitter yesterday and I couldn't find one person skeptical of this story.
Now, I obviously don't know if it happened.
And a lot of people are saying allegedly because there's just so much that doesn't add up.
But let's go through it, shall we?
Maybe you can help me figure this out.
So...
He's at LaGuardia.
On Instagram, he says, oh, I'm stuck on the tarmac.
And then he arrives in O'Hare in Chicago at about 2.30 a.m.
Right?
They're doing renovations next door.
Hope that doesn't come out on the mic.
Probably won't.
These mics are pretty good.
Then he's hungry.
So he goes to Subway to get a sub.
Now, if I was Jussie Smollett... What kind of name is Jussie, by the way?
Have you ever heard that?
Makes me think of Jamaicans and Dutty.
I thought it was Jesse, but it is like Juicy.
Juicy?
With a U. Juicy?
Well, it's spelt Juicy.
No wonder he came out gay.
His parents made him Juicy.
Who could resist?
Juicy Couture.
Jussie Smollett.
Okay, so just for the record, if this did happen, my heart goes out to the guy, and I'm not just wrong about this case, or for being dubious, but I'm wrong about America, and I'm wrong about MAGA, and I'm wrong about the state of racism and homophobia in America today.
If this story is true, I'm at least partially wrong about a lot of stuff.
Although we did have those kids who found a kid in a MAGA hat who was mentally handicapped, black kids, tortured him, cut his shirt up, cut him, and I think they got away with probation or something.
And it didn't have nearly the kind of national push this story is having.
I mean, everyone is crying.
Kamala Harris is crying for him, and she's supposed to be the President of the United States.
We need a little more skepticism from someone who's going to be the President of the United States.
Like, at least start with, if this is true, then blah blah blah blah blah blah.
But it seems very few people are saying if this is true, or even questioning the story.
So here's the story.
So he goes to Subway, and I'm guessing that at Subway he got an Italian BMT, 6-inch Italian bread, provolone cheese, toasted, and then after it came out of the oven he could have got like...
Some lettuce, some jalapeno peppers, some banana peppers, honey mustard, some pickles.
Red onions?
Red onions.
Black olives?
No black olives.
You probably wouldn't get black olives.
Then he would get maybe oil and vinegar.
And then not salt, because there's already so much salt on the ham and everything, that he just got pepper.
And he got it... Did he get it to go?
Maybe he gets it to go.
Yeah, he could eat that on the go.
Subway's not a great place to sit down.
It's not.
It really isn't.
But your home is nice, and he's rich, he's a successful actor, he's probably got a home.
Nice home.
So as he's leaving, walking down the street, someone yells, hey, ain't you, aren't you the faggot of Empire, nigger?
Now, I'm sorry to use those terrible words, but aren't you the faggot of Empire, nigger?
All right.
First of all, we already have a problem here.
Racists don't watch Empire.
You'd have to, and you wouldn't just be watching Empire, occasionally taking it in.
You'd recognize the man who happens to be the gay guy.
And is his character gay or is he gay in his home life?
He's gay in his home life.
So he would have to know that the guy who plays the character is gay in real life.
He's racist.
He's also, the other thing about him is he's not a very distinct looking guy.
He's a normal, handsome young man who is black.
And like, if it was from the Sopranos, Tony Soprano really sticks out.
The guy from the E Street Band, little Steven with his mouth coming out, or Big Pussy, or Uncle, what's his name?
Uncle Junior?
Or Polly Walnuts with the white on the side.
Like, they're very distinct looking guys.
This guy in Chicago, I mean, you'd have to be a super fan before you recognized him.
So A, why do they know about Empire?
B, why do they recognize him?
And C, that's not how racists talk.
Aren't you, I don't like repeating such horrible words, but aren't you that F nigga?
They'd say like, they'd say more like, we know you, you goddamn N-word.
You're on that TV show that all the N-words watch.
Like they don't use the N-word to punctuate sentences.
That's a black thing.
All right, so that's already pretty weird.
That first made my antennas go up.
How would they know that show?
We should probably count these.
So that's one problem.
So one problem is they know the show.
Right.
Two, they know him.
Three, they talk in Ebonics.
Okay.
Four would be...
You know, the black community doesn't seem to embrace homosexuality as much as the other ones.
You can't use that as a flaunted story, my friend.
Look, I love you to tears, but you gotta take it easy on the philosophy.
I'm the Philosopher King.
You do funny quips, do imitations.
I'm not looking for Detective Katsu Rivera here.
Well, I've noticed, in my experience.
Yes, but it doesn't count as a list of why this story stinks.
That's a motive!
For something else to have happened, but that doesn't hurt his story per se.
All right.
So number four.
Oh, it wasn't one of them.
He's not very recognizable.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Or does that fall under they recognize him?
No, you're right.
He's not distinct.
Like he doesn't have a big birthmark or something.
All right.
So now number five.
He said they had ski masks on.
Wait a minute.
Were they stalking him?
If they were stalking him, then they wouldn't have said, hey, aren't you that?
Then they would have said, hello, Jussie.
Looks like the chickens come home to roost, boy!
Or something like that.
Or nothing!
I mean, if you're about to commit a crime, and you've been stalking someone for a while, you'd want as little evidence as possible.
They clearly are worried about getting caught if they're wearing ski masks.
So why talk?
And they had a noose ready to go?
That's another one.
So they had ski masks on.
Six, they also had a noose.
And seven, they had bleach.
Right.
They poured bleach on them.
And I think the implication there is that we don't want you to be so dark.
We want everything bleached white.
So it's a symbolic chemical attack.
I've never heard of that before.
I've heard of the noose, sure.
but pouring bleach on people.
And so you were carrying around bleach.
So the only way any of this makes sense is if they were stalking him, waiting outside his house, which seems like a lot of work for a group of racists.
And wouldn't they, aren't there other people in their priorities?
Like you don't really hear, you don't hear racists talking about black homosexuals.
They're more like, I don't like black people.
They don't get into the nuance of like, I hate tall black people, or we need less, less homosexuality in the black community.
They don't care about the black community.
So they don't get so nuanced with the types of blacks that they hate.
And when you actually do hear it, I mean, I never hear anything like that, but I, hey, why, why be picky?
And plus, weren't they in, was this in Chicago?
Okay.
I'm not sure that counts on the list, but Chicago is about a third Hispanic, a third black, a third white.
I think it's 32% black and 31% white.
It's about the same.
So I'm going to make this number eight.
I could almost make this into two.
It's not MAGA country.
Not even close.
And look up how many Chicagoans voted for Trump.
I bet it was, I bet it was like DC.
I bet it was less than 10%.
I don't see it as a very Trumpy town.
So, who would yell, this is MAGA country?
And also, when you say country, you mean the country.
Oh, wow.
Like, this here is, Trump was 12%?
12.5%, yeah.
Clinton, 83%.
Yeesh.
Yeah, when you say- It's not exactly MAGA.
If it was Alabama, right?
And we were there, and we had signs that said, rodeos suck.
We hate rodeos.
I could see them saying, fuck you, New Yorkers.
This is rodeo country.
Yeah.
That makes sense to me.
But two random white guys who represent a third of the Chicago population saying this is MAGA country?
But it's not.
I'm making that too.
Hey, there's a tweet by Tony Morrison that's enraging.
It says the latest MAGA country in quotes claims are true per Chicago PD.
This is how he tells you how it's true.
Detectives did a follow up supplemental interview with Jussie Smollett where he did in fact tell police his attackers yelled MAGA country.
So that doesn't mean No, that's even worse.
Actually, that's number ten.
So, MAGA Country is three.
So, it's true because he told them that.
Right.
Well, that's even... See, that's her twist on it.
What really happened was, he told the media that, but he hadn't told the police that.
So, the police call him and they go, hey, what's this about MAGA Country?
That wasn't in your report.
So, a supplemental interview.
And then he goes, yeah, no, no, sorry, I forgot, but they did say that.
How do you forget?
You can't forget something like that.
I don't know.
His injuries don't look very bad.
It's not like he was beaten unconscious.
He was able to drive himself to the hospital.
So people don't say MAGA country.
A. B. It's not MAGA country.
And C. Why didn't you say that to the police?
So that's three MAGA countries.
All right.
So, uh, they put a noose around his neck, apparently.
He doesn't take it off.
He walks into the hospital, where he drives himself, and he's wearing it.
Isn't that weird?
Yep.
Is it weird?
Yes.
Yes, it is.
So I'm gonna put that on there.
That's 11.
Where's the noose?
And then... And then he went in and he gets treated, blah blah blah, he goes home.
Now here's some things that do help his story.
He has, and it looks to be time stamped, an envelope that says, you die black fag or something on it in cut out letters.
And that had been mailed to Fox Studio about eight days before.
So now it looks good for him because you think, if this is a hate crime hoax, that's a really premeditated plan.
Like the idea of someone sitting there and going, I'm going to make some homophobic racist mail and send it to myself.
That's bizarre.
Like, that's mentally ill.
You're deranged.
But, so then maybe he does that, and I'm not saying this is a good theory, this doesn't feel right in my gut.
So he would do that, and then maybe he liked all the attention he was getting, and then he said, I'm gonna up this, up the ante on this.
No.
That doesn't make sense either, though.
So the hate mail makes it all really, really confusing.
If there was no hate mail, I'd just go, this looks exactly like a hate crime hoax.
Okay, let's go back to the argument for the hoax.
There's no footage.
This is in Chicago.
We saw with the NYC Nine, there's like 10 different angles and not from citizen journalists.
I mean, just like buildings and stuff.
So why is there no CCTV footage?
So that's 12 reasons why this looks like a hoax.
And then one reason why it doesn't.
I'm totally confused by this.
And if it's true, that's just so bizarre.
Like, so you have racists who live in Chicago, right?
And I'm sure there's plenty.
Well, not plenty.
I'm sure there's 17, maybe seven.
Between seven and 17.
I can think, like they'd hate Sean King, and they'd hate Al Sharpton, and they'd obviously hate Farrakhan, and actually maybe they agree with the super, super extremist black dudes.
Maybe they like the black, actually I've heard, I've heard Tom Metzger I think it was, or one of these old school Nazis, say that the black Hebrew Israelites are just a black version of them.
Whatever that group he was in, maybe it was the KKK or something.
So yeah, but the idea that a bunch of racists would really hone in on a gay actor on a show for black people, basically.
I mean, I know it's not for black people, but you know what I mean.
It's not like it's a totally mainstream show that everyone in middle America is talking about.
Did he say that his tweet was something that could have alerted, like, stalkers?
Because he said, oh, I'm stuck at O'Hare or whatever?
Yes, that's why I mentioned that at the beginning.
Yeah.
So now, if you were trying to find somebody based on a tweet like this, so they're stalking his Twitter, like, oh, he just tweeted where he's at, let's go, and then what they They move from wherever they are with their noose and their bleach, and they try to find him.
Well, they would go to his apartment, and then it's reasonable that they know what apartment he's in, what building he lives in.
Then they wait for him, they let him get his sub.
Oh, okay.
But the only problem with that version of events is, why do they say, aren't you that F from Empire N?
Wouldn't they be certain at that point?
And, as I said earlier, why talk?
Like, just jump him, do the thing.
And also, why are you so sure they're white?
If they had ski masks on.
I guess you got a really good look at their hands?
So, I can't explain the letter.
I don't think it's fake.
Well, he could have mailed it to himself, but that is just like... If he mailed it to himself, Because he planned to make up a hate crime eight days from that.
This guy needs to go into a mental institution.
That is way beyond, like there's hate crime hoaxes where you do something stupid, like say, you grab some guy's balls, because you think he's gay, and it turns out he isn't gay, and then he beats you up, and he's a black guy, and you think, uh-oh, I gotta go to the hospital and come up with something.
I'm not gonna say I grabbed some straight guy's dick.
I'll make up a hate crime hoax.
That I understand.
But to have planned it a week in advance, I'm not saying it is or isn't a hoax.
I'm saying this is one of the most confusing cases I've ever read.
And the reason I'm bringing it up on this podcast is because we've been getting great letters these days that explain things like new theories about why everyone hates Brad.
Most of them sucked.
We already got the good ones out.
Some Israeli military guy telling me about Chad's and Brad's in Israel and how they are treated like successful Guys in the Israeli military.
Oh my god, yeah, I almost forgot too, and then the inflation of the $1 million per fight in 1920, somebody told me if we went by the gold inflation, $1 million would be worth about $65 million now.
That makes a little more sense.
That was told on Twitter, yeah.
But if you, and as I said to you when you brought that up, if you bought a million dollars of real estate in 1920, you'd be a fucking billionaire by now.
Shit, if you bought a million dollars in 1975, Or when Dinkins was mayor and the whole place sucked, you'd be a kazillionaire.
I mean apartment, the West Village was terrible in the 80s.
It was a hellhole.
Anyway.
Oh, there's one more too.
In the, uh, oh, there was 12, uh, it was about the, uh, SEAL Team Six with the Bin Laden thing.
Yeah.
Somebody, uh.
Oh yeah.
We were saying, we were comparing how many FBI went to Roger Stone and how many FBI went to Osama Bin Laden.
And, uh, the numbers are, um, I think more with Roger Stone.
It was, yes.
Somebody tweeted it.
It's about two seconds away.
Yeah.
They had two boats, a helicopter.
And when you told me that huge list, I was trying to think of a scenario where you would need that much.
And I realized James Bond.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
James Bond could have taken out about 15 of them and then it's possible he would steal a car and it's possible that car has things that can go into water.
That's why you need the boats.
A submarine car, so you need the boats.
So, if Roger Stone was James Bond, you would have an argument.
So yeah, Mark Simone tweeted out, 12 Navy SEALs were sent to get Osama Bin Laden.
29 agents, two helicopters, two boats, and armored vehicles were sent to pick up Roger Stone.
So, dramatically more.
That is amazing.
So maybe someone can help with this, because That letter, it looks a lot like a hate crime hoax without that letter.
There's just too much weird shit about it.
In fact, there's literally 12 weird things about it.
But then the letter makes it all seem like true.
So he is being stalked.
But then, you know, just like with the aboriginal ceremony, indigenous ceremony, where these kids go, oh, this is stupid.
I'm going to go wreck it in my mega hat because Indians suck.
That just, I know that's not a thing.
So when I heard this, the idea of MAGA hat guys going, hey, that's the guy from Empire!
Put on your ski masks!
Get your bleach!
Let's get him!
Good thing we packed all this stuff.
You know, the creator of the show, he said that, you know, this attack is heinous and stuff like that, and then he ends it with, America is better than this.
And yeah, you're right.
I think it is.
That's why we're so curious about this case.
Empire creator Lee Daniels posted an emotional strong reaction to the news that actor Jesse Smollett was brutally attacked in a possible hate crime.
America is better than that.
Yeah.
Yeah, which is why we're asking questions here.
We're suspicious too, sir.
Yeah.
It's sort of like with the indigenous ceremony too, where they go, we don't want an America where young men think it's okay to destroy indigenous ceremonies.
And we go, yeah.
I agree with you.
I don't want that either.
All right.
So are we done with that?
I have to admit, part of me bringing this up is selfish, because if this blows up, I want, and that's why I'm doing a podcast on a day I don't normally do it, because I want people to go, holy fuck, man.
You nailed it, dude.
Classic G-Dawg.
You smelled a rat.
Fucking Detective McInnes nailed it again.
I want to be that guy.
I want to get this in under the wire.
But it's also possible we'll never find out.
Although, the hate crime hoaxes, I mean, I think the police, they don't want to look bad.
So people say, hey, cops, what the fuck, man?
You got ski masks, MAGA guys?
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Were the MAGA hats on the ski masks?
Yeah, that's a weird look.
That's weird.
How do you hide that, too?
You have a ski mask, like how long do you have the ski mask on you?
I guess you're around the corner and you see, I don't know.
Yeah, that's the crux of what confuses me.
How do you get away with this?
So you recognize him, either you're stalking him and you go, all right, let's do this.
And then you would just put on the ski masks, put the MAGA hat in your backpack or whatever, don't bring your MAGA hat, and do the beating and then run away.
But to say, hey, aren't you that guy?
And then put on your ski mask, I guess?
And then put the MAGA hat, you have to adjust the size now.
Because your head's bigger with a ski mask.
It is a snapback, though.
That's an extra accoutrement.
That's almost like a Batman comic.
What is this, Warriors now?
Are the Baseball Furies going to come out wearing their little outfits?
Put their things in bleach?
Yeah, that's incriminating.
You'd want to get away with it.
If you're trying to get away with it, you don't do that.
I would kill to be able to talk to the detective on this case.
Can you imagine having a beer with him?
And just saying all this to him and going, well, actually those guys aren't that fun.
They're usually just like, well, if the tapes show guys with ski masks, we got a guy.
And if we got no footage, we got no case.
And you're like, dude, I realize that, but can we pontificate please?
They're not very, uh, Dungeons and Dragons-y, those detectives.
They're just like, well, if this, if she got the money from her mom, like she said, then we got, we got nothing.
And if the mother doesn't know about the money, then someone's going to jail.
And you're like, yeah, what if, hypothetically, I guess we could go there, but I, you know, I don't because, you know, the evidence doesn't speak.
That's a hypothetical.
I don't know.
Look, look, the answer, I don't know what to tell you, buddy.
The answer is, I don't know.
I know you don't know, dude!
Now I'm fighting with this invisible cop.
With this invisible cop, yeah.
I want him to be my friend.
Dude, loosen up!
So this is the place, I guess, where it happened, and they have a security camera which only shows him, and doesn't show the attackers.
Oh, they have CCT footage of him going to get the sub?
It hasn't been released yet, but, no, um... It hasn't been released yet, but you can see it?
What, you hacked into the mainframe?
No, they claim that it exists, but it's only him.
And now they're just showing B-roll of the place where he says it happened.
So it looks pretty secluded, actually.
So that's a point for him.
That's a point for him.
Okay, so so far for him, we have the letter.
But it's also against him, because there's security cameras in that secluded place, so it neutralizes it.
So it is secluded, but there's a security camera, and it only shows him.
So I think that's actually one for us.
Okay, I'm gonna make you a deal.
Sure.
If the footage comes out and we see MAGA hats with ski masks beating this man and they seem to have a bleach thing, I will punch myself in the face and I will eat a $100 bill.
Huh.
That's fun.
And now I'm going to rip it up into pieces.
I don't want to have one big chunk of that because it's not paper, right?
It's like cloth.
It's basically cloth.
I'm going to, maybe I'll split it into four pieces, but I'll eat my own hundred dollar bill and I'll punch myself in the face.
Nice.
Are you going to record it and post it?
Yeah.
Well, I don't want to post it.
You'll have to just tell people that it's the truth.
Yeah, you have to trust me.
And then if it's a hoax, I don't get anything.
I'm not that good with bets.
I always make it really shitty for me.
You do get something.
Well, I get to be right.
Yeah.
Although I haven't definitively said it's a hate crime hoax.
All I'm saying right now is this is very suspicious and I've listed 12 reasons why.
I'm sure someone can twist that into racism, but I don't think it is.
I'm skeptical of all races.
Well, the problem with it is if it's not, oh, look, I got a gay buddy.
I won't say his name.
See, the weird thing is you check Twitter and everything and it's all, this is so fucked up, man.
My heart goes out to you.
I have no words.
That's a common one.
I have no words.
But then privately texting, I suspect a lot more people than me are going, yeah, uh, where were the hats where the ski masks were on?
Okay.
Uh, Oh, Chadwick Moore tweeted out, we've all gone out for a foot long at 2am and had something shady happen to us.
Wishing Jussie a speedy recovery.
That's so subtle.
But this, another guy I know texts, now the cops are saying the quote unquote rope that he still had around his neck 45 minutes after the attack was thin clothesline.
I think we know what happened.
thin clothesline like a like a mafia choke him out thing no no i think he's implying it was like some sort of sexual thing oh interesting like maybe he was with a a guy one of those guys who was like gay curious and then he wrapped a thing around his neck and then the the the the straight guy got freaked out that he's doing gay stuff and he punched him in the face and ran out right oh wait this is the letter Did you see this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thanks, Detective Rivera.
Yeah, but I hadn't seen it.
Look at the, look at the... That's... Dude, I don't know.
What did you think about the whole, that bomber guy?
Remember that, the MAGA bomber dude?
What, you think that was fake?
With his perfect van, and there's just... If you drive that around, you're gonna get tickets.
All the windows are, like, fucking... So you think that whole thing was a false flag?
No, I think, like, I was a loon, but they did with that what they, you know, they spun that because, um, remember they tried to link that to the Proud Boys because they mentioned it in a thing?
Oh, he had liked a thing or something?
It made it seem like they sent it or something.
I think he was a legit loony.
Yeah.
I don't think he was like a paid actor or anything.
No, I don't think that.
You know what was suspicious about that, and it was a Proud Boy thing?
The day that all of those people received a weird package, right?
That was like a shitty fake bomb.
I think he's just a mentally damaged loser who sent something that he knew wasn't a bomb, but he just wanted to scare a bunch of people.
Yes.
So that I think was real.
The day, what I can't get over, and I have no answer for this by the way, what I can't get over is that same day, and how many times has that happened in American history, where every major left-wing politician got a package the same day.
So that same day, Governor Cuomo gets a package, but it's not the same.
It's a thumb drive with a bunch of Proud Boys stuff on it from that night.
Probably an Antifa sending them all the footage, probably that guy.
Oh, what's his name?
Horse Shay or something?
Or Shay Horse, Shy Horse, or some Antifa guy.
Then there's that super old lady who works for, does stuff for Antifa and edits out all the footage of them doing bad stuff.
Anyway, one of those two probably.
Shay Horse?
Anyway, I just can't get over that the one day that all these politicians receive a strange package, Cuomo receives an unrelated strange package.
And out of his entire career, which is decades, How many times has he received strange packages?
I'm guessing that was the only time.
Ever, yeah.
So that's just such a bizarre coincidence.
Oh yeah, and you know, de Blasio and Cuomo seem to have been butting heads on the involvement of the police, or we get state police, or whatever, remember that?
Yep, he wanted to be more involved and de Blasio was saying, I got it, I got it, chill out, mafia man.
And I don't know man, I think they were pretty unified on this topic besides that.
So it's like, and he has the police commissioner, de Blasio has the police commissioner, like, He takes orders from him basically.
So just what I was gonna investigate.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, but investigate this goes way higher than the commissioner Huh, this is top DNC stuff.
By the way, this is another Jussie Smollett thing Jussie Smollett turned down extra security days before brutal attack Interesting.
Yeah, so he when he got that crazy letter He denied extra.
He brought it up to them.
He didn't say, just don't worry about it.
Some crazy guy.
He brought it up to them and they said, okay, this is really fucked up, Jussie.
Let's get you a round the clock security, which they would pay for.
And he said, no.
Now that's curious right there.
Cause round the clock security is probably like between two and $5,000 a day.
Someone's offering you that?
Yeah.
If someone offered me that right now, I'd go, sure.
Why not?
Oh, and they said poured bleach on him.
So they actually went through with it.
So did he have bleach on him?
Yeah, will you stop bringing up stuff we've already talked about?
But did they, did he have bleach on him?
Did they test him for bleach?
Are you listening to this podcast?
Yes.
Yes, they poured bleach on him.
Stop doing research after we've already started the whole thing.
I've been reading about this for days.
I got it all.
Now he's, the bleach thing has changed a little bit.
Now it's an unknown chemical.
Oh, isn't it also curious that he's saying so much more to the media than he's saying to the police?
Like, he told the media, this is MAGA country.
He didn't tell the police that.
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't tell the police about the MAGA hats.
By the way, if this is a hoax, dude, you're putting people who wear MAGA hats in danger.
Right.
You're making it the Klan hood.
Like, Kamala Harris, I think, said this is a modern day lynching, or it was trying to be.
With a thin clothesline?
And why would you bring a rope just as a gesture?
That's really one of the fishiest things.
If you're going to bring a rope, but you're not going to actually hang someone with it, you put it around their neck, why would the person, as he gets in his car to drive to the hospital, keep it on his neck for 45 minutes?
Yeah, and can you send a letter like that?
A return address MAGA and then fuckin' children's handwriting on the front?
Yes, it's called Letters to Santa.
Oh.
Although, I guess he doesn't get them.
Nah, I would imagine not.
But yeah.
Yeah, something just really, really, really weird is going on.
And I wanted to get that on the podcast before, because we're living in a, in a time when the left and the right sees two totally different Americas.
It goes back to Charles Krauthammer's thing where he said, they think we're evil.
We just think they're wrong.
They, so many people on the left, especially in the creative class and Hollywood actors, comedians, the entire DNC, have painted this picture of these roaming hate gangs wearing MAGA hats and attacking people of color, trans, Muslims, killing them.
And it's just not true.
Anti-Semitism is not on the rise.
There is not a surge in right-wing violence in the age of Trump.
This idea that racism was always there and Trump emboldened them, I don't even know what it comes from.
I think it comes from after Charlottesville, he said, there's good people on the bad and the right.
And that became him saying there are good people amongst the evil Nazis.
And I think what he was doing when he said good people on the on both sides of that Charlottesville thing is he was trying to diffuse a massive race war and just he was adding some obfuscation in there and saying yeah there was evil shitty people that he denounced a million times but there was also some journalists and people who didn't realize what it was and don't go killing everyone who who seems to to you know be white and conservative because you think that there's a race war starting.
I think that's Mono, I think that's what I'd do.
There's no need to dogpile on anybody here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nobody was liking each other.
There is a huge Nazi thing going on and we have to stop it.
I mean, you're going to get some people killed.
And I know that sounds terrible when I say there, there isn't a, no, there's no uptick in rise in antisemitism, but I should bookmark these, those two articles because, uh, Oh, here they are.
So I always send these two articles to people because they're really well researched and they help explain the myth of this evil racist America where guys in ski masks are running around pouring bleach on people and hanging nooses around their neck in Chicago.
I mean, I bet New York has similar racial demographics.
Imagine a black guy getting attacked in the West Village or the Lower East Side with guys yelling, this is MAGA country!
It's unfathomable.
You can't wear a MAGA hat into bars in New York.
I'm sure it's the same with Chicago.
I bet if I wore a MAGA hat into pretty much any bar in Chicago, I'd be kicked out.
I should try that.
Anyway, sorry.
So Jonathan S. Tobin in the New York Post, but he's syndicated, so this could have been anywhere.
The headline is, no, there's no Trump-fueled surge in anti-Semitism.
The fact that people are trying to pin anti-Semitism on Trump is just mental.
I used to say this, I'm not sure it's true anymore, but it was true for a while.
Oh yeah, before Kimberly Guilfoyle came along.
Every adult son and daughter, every person, every offspring of Trump's who can legally have sex is having sex with a Jewish person right now.
And Ivanka converted to Orthodox Judaism.
That's not easy.
You can't just say that.
You gotta... Jesus Christ.
Your whole diet changes.
You gotta do all these tests and stuff.
It's a huge deal.
He changed the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
The guy is the most Jewish friendly president we've ever had in our lives.
Or no, sorry, America's ever had, not just in my lifetime.
Anyway, so the commonly cited statistic is that there's this huge rise of anti-Semitism and there's a spike and a surge.
But you look at it and you go, this is mostly from the ADL, who has really misleading stats, they're just like the SPLC, and they're just like the SPLC in that they used to be cool and really help people and be able to, you know, prevent hatred and bigotry and blah blah blah.
By the way, Why is people who are concerned by antisemitism, why aren't they totally focused on Islam?
Do you know what it's like to wear a yarmulke in northern Paris right now?
You will get attacked, you'll get spat on!
Jews are leaving Paris in droves!
Anyway, so, sorry about the noise.
To start, this is from the Jonathan Tobin article about there's no surge in antisemitism.
The 57% jump in antisemitic incidents is inflated because it includes 163 bomb threats to Jewish community centers and other institutions in the first months of the Trump presidency.
That led new ADL chief Jonathan Greenblatt to blame the president for the work of far-right extremists.
But it turned out the incidents weren't about anti-semitism.
The main perpetrator was a disturbed Israeli teenager.
And you'll notice this with all these hate stats.
They always bring loonies into the hate zone.
Like the Vegas shooting.
We still don't know what the fuck that was about.
It's all we know right now is lunatic.
And that's become, he was an anti-government, radical, right-wing lunatic.
No, we don't know that.
We don't, I don't, and I have no idea why we don't know anything about that.
And then he also says, perhaps most important, some antisemitic incidents, the ADL doesn't try to track how many, are the work of pro-Palestinian groups on college campuses, probably white kids who aren't even Palestinian, which plainly has nothing to do with Trump or the right.
Yeah.
Like when they call Ben Shapiro and Alan Dershowitz Nazis.
All right.
The other article that I think is very important, especially now in America where we have this, it's just accepted that the MAGA hat is a Klan hood and people are beating people of color on the streets for laughs.
This is David Harsanyi.
It's on Real Clear Politics, but again, syndicated guy you'll find anywhere.
And the title is, there is no, quote unquote, surge in right-wing violence.
And he starts out saying, a Washington Post analysis of domestic terrorism argues that attacks from white supremacists and other far-right attackers, far-right.
I hate that word far-right.
Far-right means you don't, you think being gay is a sin.
You've never, you think, you love the drug war and think marijuana should stay illegal.
You, what else is far-right?
You go to church.
There should be no other, there should be no mosques in America.
I mean, It's basically, you're a 1950s conservative.
Those are very rare.
I mean, you talk to even like Michelle Malkin, she's pretty right-wing.
She's one of the most conservative people I know.
She is all about marijuana legalization and she's probably against gay marriage, but I don't think she would give a shit if you brought your gay lover over to her house for dinner.
And she'd be considered far-right.
Anyway.
Have been on the rise since Barack Obama's presidency and surged since the president took office.
It's a familiar storyline.
I'll jump to the juicy bit though.
According to the Washington Post, which relies on global terrorism database data, there were zero acts of right-wing terrorism in the entire nation in 2002.
Since then, we have seen a quote-unquote surge to 36 in a nation of 325 plus million people in 2017.
of 325-plus million people in 2017.
Among those acts, there were 11 fatalities.
Compare that, by the way, to the West Side Highway and San Bernardino and Paul's shooting.
And then he says, in other words, fewer homicides were committed by political terrorists of any stripe in the United States in 2017 than were committed by undocumented immigrants in the state of Texas alone, which I am assured is an incredibly low number that you shouldn't worry about very much.
If one of those these surges is scaremongering, why not the other?
Meaning, um, why isn't, uh, anyway, forget it.
Why aren't they using stats for the opposite side of the argument?
Yes, if you're, like, there's a surge in undocumented immigrant violence, why doesn't anyone talk about that?
Why hasn't that been emboldened in the age of Trump?
For example, although the Post acknowledges that the Las Vegas shooters, oh yeah, I already talked about that one.
Of the 32 incidents I was able to find, 12 featured perpetrators who were merely suspected of being right-wing terrorists.
Some of these incidents could have been the work of one person, as in the pellet gun shootings of Muslims in New York.
In other incidents, we were asked to treat patently insane people as if they had coherent political agendas.
Anyway, those are two great articles that sort of sum up what I'm saying now.
And the reason I bring all this up is, if this guy's lying, About this attack.
And it is one of the weirdest stories I've ever heard.
Then you're putting people's lives in danger for what?
For your own, for attention?
I was talking to one person about it, who I won't name.
And he said, I think the problem with a lot of these actors is they think that they're profound because they have really talented people writing for them.
And so they say these incredibly eloquent things and they think, God damn it, I'm like Moses.
So then they come up with their own script and they write it really badly.
Like, were the hats on the ski masks or did they take the hats off and then put on the ski masks?
That's what I want to know.
Just answer me that one question.
One of the videos that you did about the trans people singing that song, the Rainbow Song?
Yeah.
They all qualify themselves, well, I am a person of color, I'm a homosexual, and I am an immigrant.
So they all think that that is a very important part of themselves.
So they think that like, oh, I'm a super target for hate crime.
I'm like an icon of victim against MAGA people.
I'm gay, I'm black, I'm on a show.
Maybe it's good for your career to be that, oh that was the guy who was attacked.
I wouldn't think it would be.
It's definitely not good for the viewer for you to be known for a thing.
Because then we're watching the show and we're like, that's the guy.
So you're kind of ruining your character if it didn't happen.
But that's not important.
What's important is, you better not be lying dude.
Because that's a really shitty thing to do if you're lying that uh that's separating the country and and we're in a strange place now where People like call the FBI if they see something suspicious or they they leave bars they talk about feeling unsafe all the time and it's because the DNC has said we need to make people think America's racist and They're as Joe Biden said, but they're gonna have you all in chains What is the deal with um?
And there might be no deal with it, but the headlines are verbatim for Daily Local, News Press Now, NBC, CNN, WNEP.
It's all empire, in quotes, actor attacked, impossible hate crime.
That's getting juicy, my friend.
Now you got me really Alex Jones-ing and thinking, that's good, that's a good new word.
All of Alex Jones-ing?
Because now it's like, there was something suspicious about my talk and how the signs were so beautiful and everything, though my name was spelled wrong, which means you're not actually familiar with me.
But am I crazy for thinking that someone encouraged him to do this and said, look, there could be a lot in it for you if you mail yourself this and then go to the hospital and do this.
Even one more step.
That sounds pretty crazy.
Another crazier step is somebody did that because they're like, he's the perfect victim.
Oh, so he was, he was beat up by DNC people.
Yeah.
I'm not ruling that out.
Right.
That, I mean, that actually sounds less crazy than the version we have now.
All those conspiracies are at least as loony as the actual story that we're getting from this guy.
The false flag stuff.
Anyway, I don't like that these podcasts are being so serious, and I selfishly wanted to get this one in under the wire in case it blows up as a hate crime hoax tomorrow, and I wanted people to admire me.
