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Dec. 6, 2017 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
Wow, music in the 80s sucked, didn't it?
Go jump into the middle of that song, Dave.
The lyrics are brutal.
My body screams.
Please make love.
Pinch my scare and you're lying there.
I pinched myself as you're lying there.
Keep going.
I'm really scared.
Too much to ask, even for a fantasy.
Did you hear her squealing there?
I am convinced that music was that bad in the 80s because of cocaine.
It gave people unjustified hubris and they had no shame about going, my body screams, police make love to me.
And everyone is just sitting in the studio going, yep, that sounds reasonable.
Yeah, that's not embarrassing at all.
Let's turn it up.
That's a hit.
Starpoint was that band, and the song was object of my desire.
I don't think it's very good.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Xmas is on the front page of the post.
Something about sports.
Who cares?
I've got to make this intro very short because we have two great guests today.
We have Matthias Thorpe, who went to an anti-fuck conference and said, I'm just going to talk to these people.
And he ended up in the hospital.
So we'll talk to him and his battered face.
And then we have Jada Franson, who I'm very excited to speak to.
This is the woman who runs Britain First.
She's the face of Britain First, and she put up three Muslim videos of Muslims behaving very badly.
And Trump retweeted it, and that became the big thing, that Trump's retweeting Nazis.
Chris Hayes, the entire media just takes it for granted.
Anderson Cooper, we now have Trump retweeting Nazis.
They don't get, though, that when you hear someone is a Nazi in Britain, they are remarkably moderate.
I'll be repeating all these points many times in case you tune out.
But before we get to any of that, let's catch up on the gossip.
So MSNBC fires Sam Seder after alt-right group digs up old Polanski joke.
Now, Sam Cedar, I'm not a fan.
He dated Sarah Silverman many years ago.
How do you let Sarah Silverman go?
I know very few people who watch this show like her, but I think she's a catch, an annoying catch.
But Sam Cedar is one of these liberal journalists.
Everyone is a Nazi.
Trump's a Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi.
So he picks a fight with Cernovich.
Cernovich digs through his quotes and then finds, do you have the actual tweet, Dave?
It says something like, I look forward to my daughter getting raped by someone who is good at all miss film or something like that.
Now, the content of his joke was mocking the tolerance we have.
Yeah, don't care, Ray Plansky, but I hope if my daughter's ever raped, it is by an older, truly talented man with a great sense of mise on scene.
Yes.
So, we know what his joke was about.
His joke was mocking those who are tolerant of Roman Polanski's pedophilia.
So, I don't think he should be fired.
No.
But, I'm not crying a lot of tears for Sam.
You know, he plays this game.
He gets people fired, and you start picking fights with people.
Eventually, it turns on you, and your own stupid logic is rammed down your throat.
I mean, this happens to us all the time.
Pax Dickinson had, I'm going to use the word Canadian for the N-word here.
He said, some woman is going to get raped by a pack of Canadians.
And it was in a comical context, and it raped by a pack of Canadians.
So Pax was mocking Mel Gibson, but out of context, it looked like he was just saying raped by a pack of Canadians, and he lost his job for that.
Okay, liberals, you want to play that game?
That means you can get fired for your jokes taken out of context.
So unjustified, morally wrong, but I'm totally fine with it.
So this is John Oliver.
John Oliver confronted Dustin Hoffman at a wag the dog thing in a joodle, and he criticized him for his sexual harassment allegations.
Sorry, let's go back to that.
There's one line which has been running around my head.
She said, no one is 100% good or bad.
True, right?
Dustin's a pig, but I like him a lot.
I mean, that is both extremely generous and damning.
See, again, I don't think you should have kangaroo courts without evidence where someone is framed based on a rumor, but I've got no skin in the game, and it's kind of fun watching the left cannibalize each other.
I'm enjoying seeing John Oliver attack Dustin Hoffman.
I like all these lefties having to meet their own standards.
It's fun.
It's fun watching them suffer.
But while we thoroughly enjoy seeing the left eat itself, we also have to watch the left destroy the entire Western world.
Let's start with their war on free speech, which is today's focus.
And let's start with Matthias.
Matthias, are you there?
I'm here.
You look like crap.
I thought I looked a little bit better now.
I mean.
You look like something out of Star Wars.
You look like you're in the Star Wars bar and you're a different species.
You like the nice shade of green that I've got going on my face.
Oh my lord, you got those both eyes sealed shut.
And this has been a couple days since you were beat up, right?
Yeah, it's been about four days, four or five days.
We have pictures of you in the actual hospital where you looked a lot worse, if that's possible.
I was pretty swollen up in the hospital, and I was pretty red.
And I was also very bloody at that time, too, because, you know, I got hit in the nose and everything just went.
I had Blood all over my clothes, my jacket, my shoes, my pants, everywhere.
So it was a pretty bloody incident.
It sure was.
So your crime was trying to talk to Antifa and saying, guys, let's work this out.
I want to hear your side.
I want you to hear my side.
Well, basically, I went in there to confront the author, and I think I did it in a pretty professional manner.
I went, I asked my question.
He pretty much ignored the question.
He sidetracked it because I wanted him to talk a little bit about how Antifa kind of started out of the communist movement and how it was kind of more of an arm of the communist movement as opposed to really fighting against fascism.
So it's like my question was, well, was communist fascism that killed over 150 million people worse than the Mussolini and Nazi fascism that killed somewhere around 12 million?
So I wanted him to somehow identify the fact that, well, communist Russia was still a fascist regime.
Antifa came out of that.
And he didn't want to answer that question, of course.
And I got a lot of hostility from the audience in the room.
People shouting at me and saying different things like, you know, fascism started in Germany and just all this stuff.
So the room was very hostile.
And, you know, Mark was really trying to, I think, make a joke out of me and what I was doing.
And I just wanted to be an alternative voice in that room because I knew a lot of people wouldn't know about Antifa, who they really were, about the free speech movement.
And I didn't want him to get away with telling all these lies without somebody saying, hey, that's not right.
So, yeah, so that was kind of the main focus of going there.
But after the meeting, you know, I was very respectful to all the people there.
There was one guy who came up to me.
He said, are you one of the organizers of one of the free speech rallies?
So we had one in November as well, and I helped out with that.
And I said, yeah.
And I asked him if he wanted to talk.
And he said, I don't want to talk to you.
And he walked away.
And we talked to another person from the Antifa group who was pretty decent.
I told him, I said, I don't want to hurt you.
I don't want to, I don't hate you.
I don't want to commit violence.
I said, we just want to talk.
We just want to have dialogue.
And he was pretty okay with that.
But there was this last group of people that came out of the store somewhere before the store closed.
And they pointed at me and said, he's a Nazi, attacked me.
So of course they bring their women in front to attack me and distract me.
And then there's stronger people behind me to hit me in the face and basically sucker punch me and bum rush me.
So are you a Nazi?
No.
No, I am probably, I wouldn't even say that I am a hardcore Trump supporter.
Like I was probably more of a liberal.
I was very apolitical before August.
So I saw the free speech rally that happened in August, knew nothing about the free speech movement, knew nothing about anything.
Didn't know anything about you because I know that you were one of the speakers.
You were planning to be one of the speakers there.
And I looked at the list of people who were supposed to speak and I said, I don't see anything that controversial about any of these people.
This is the Boston Free Speech Rally?
This was the one in August, the one where 45,000 people showed up to protest.
That was one of the most ridiculous things in the history of American politics.
It was an Indian man holding up a free speech sign with 30,000 people screaming, no Nazi, at him.
And he agrees with them.
What the hell?
And he said that he chased out the KKK.
He said that he had signs that said black lives do matter.
So the whole thing was just, I mean, it really made Boston look very stupid.
It sure did.
So when we had our rally again in November, there was about a thousand counter-protesters that showed up.
So a lot of those people that showed up the last time, they either didn't, there wasn't as much news about it because there wasn't the hysteria, or they realized that they protested an Indian guy and people from, you know, I think there was a black guy that had a speech.
There was a socialist that talked.
So yeah, the whole thing was ridiculous.
And I knew something was wrong.
And this had happened right after Charlottesville.
I knew something was wrong with the whole Charlottesville connection.
And, you know, so.
Well, that's why I didn't go.
I knew it was going to be linked to that.
And there's just no, you just can't argue with these people, as you just found out.
And that brings me to my last question is, if my brother said, hey, I'm going to go to an antifoot talk and try to reason with them, I'd say, no, Kyle, don't go within 100 miles of that place.
So you had to know it was going to get violent.
These people are irrational.
You had to know it was a coin toss, whether you'd get beat up or not.
I knew that there was a chance of trouble, but I didn't exactly know who was going to show up.
I didn't know it was going to be so highly concentrated with these sort of communist Antifa groups.
Because I know in Berkeley, there's a girl, Ashton Witty, I think is her name.
And she showed up to one of these talks by Mark Bray.
And it seemed like it was mostly just old people who were just trying to figure out who this guy was and trying to figure out, you know, what Antifa was.
I didn't expect such a hostile environment.
I expected a little bit, but I know going into these things because this isn't the first time I've gone into a meeting that talks about opposing ideas.
You know, these people are very aggressive.
I've been to protests where, you know, I've tried to talk with people.
I've gone to meetings of like the Democratic Socialists of America, where at the very end, people were yelling at me and telling me I'm not welcome here just for asking questions.
You know, so it's like, you can't, like I said, I'm losing hope every day about whether or not we can reason with any of these people and work this out because as time goes on, I just think the climate gets crazier and crazier.
Well, I've been saying it for a long time.
I don't think chicks should go to rallies on our side, Trump chicks.
I don't think we should Go to Islamberg and ask those Muslims what they're doing because I think they're jihadis.
And if you want to go talk to Antifa, I think you need to have at least 20 guys who are willing to brawl with you at the time.
We're not dealing with sane people, we're dealing with crazy ex-girlfriends.
Yeah, yeah, I had a group of three people.
One guy already got kicked out because somebody had a confrontation with him in the bookstore.
And then when we left and we came back, I thought most of these people had left.
I thought they were all gone.
But the Antifa here on the East Coast is not as crazy as the ones out on the West Coast.
But I don't know where these people came from.
We're still trying to work on getting video of the incident itself.
So, you know, the Antifa that we saw in November, they were cowards.
You know, we had Joey Gibson go out into the crowd and walk through the crowd of a thousand counter-protesters, and none of them did anything.
Yeah.
Yeah, the East Coast, it's mostly professors' sons, rich academics.
Yeah.
Well, good luck.
Are you pressing charges?
Are you suing?
Are you taking legal action?
What's the plan there?
That's what I'm planning.
I'm trying to take legal action against the COOP because they're not cooperating with us.
Trying to get a hold of the Cambridge Police Department because they're the ones responsible for handling the case.
I've heard nothing from them yet.
And I mean, this is a domestic terrorist attack, and I've heard absolutely nothing from their end.
I want to take this to the furthest extent because, you know, you can blame a lot of people on this incident.
You can blame Marty Walsh, the police commissioner, all these people who said that we were neo-Nazis back in August because they never corrected that record.
So many people who either don't know about who we are or didn't get any further news about the incident still think that Nazis came to Boston in August.
They still think that.
And they think that they chased them away.
So this is going to be a big ordeal.
And it's like, yeah, I wish I wouldn't have gotten into a fight.
But in a way, I think this is going to bring a lot of attention to at least the city and Antifa and kind of the whole free speech movement over here in Boston.
Because, you know, we need to make, I think, headway here in Boston because it's the cradle of liberty.
You know, I think if we conquer Boston, we can conquer the entire nation.
Well, that's a good attitude to have, especially with your eyes sealed shut.
Yeah, you know, I'm the thing is, is like I said, when you go into these things, when you try to stand up for what is right, like I understand, you know, you have to definitely use some common sense here and try to be careful.
Unfortunately, I let my guard down because I was having such good conversations with certain people and everything was friendly.
But, you know, some of these people are not.
Some of these people want to commit violence and you just have to be aware of that.
So I'll definitely be bringing some self-defense, you know, some bear mace or something with me any other time I go to an opposing rally to protect myself.
Sad that in the free world you're left carrying mace anytime you want to talk to someone.
Well, the good news is you're a martyr now for the right, and that means when you die, you go to heaven and there's 72 virgins waiting to make love to you.
So that's, and they're all attractive.
I'm pretty happy about that.
There's a couple chubby ones in there, but you'll want them after you get through the first 68.
You want some variety to spice it up.
Thanks, Matthias.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
Cheers, buddy.
Donald Trump's racist retweets are offensive to all of us.
Britain should withdraw its state visit invitation to Donald Trump in the wake of his sharing of Britain first videos.
Say 38 political and religious figures.
Britain has lost its mind, and I want you to know something.
I'm a Britain expert.
I was born there.
And when you hear that someone is far right in Britain, they're moderate in America.
That whole country, because the government controls their media, the BBC, is state-controlled thought policing.
And you will get jailed for a racist tweet.
You'll get jailed for throwing bacon on a mosque where you will be killed in prison.
We've got Count Dankula facing prison time for teaching his pug to Ziegheil.
Meanwhile, child rape gangs are totally ignored.
So Donald Trump retweeted Britain First, three tweets, three videos, one smashing the Virgin Mary, the other murdering a teenage boy, the other a crippled boy being beaten.
And the focus is not on the content of those videos, but on Britain First.
So you go, oh, okay, well, maybe they are Nazis.
Let me look them up.
Britain First, first thing on their page is Britain First and Racism.
That's the first thing that comes up.
And then they've got, you go to their videos, and they've got a big video about how they're not racist, and they want you to know that they're a multicultural group.
They're just against Islamification.
Which is pretty reasonable when we have a massive rape epidemic.
But Britain is so obsessed with not offending Muslims that even Manchester, we found out the other day that they had plenty of information showing that Manchester was going to be a major attack.
They knew who these people were, but no, they ignored it.
They didn't want to be racist.
So 22 beautiful young girls dead.
500 injured at that thing because we don't want to appear racist.
We don't want to offend anyone.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
And by the way, I know this sounds weird to you when you hear these numbers, like 2,500 girls sex slaves, 1,400 here.
This is what happens is they're not living there like with collars around their neck behind cages.
They go to these kebab shops after school, these young girls 13 years old, and they get plied with cigarettes and vodka.
They already hate themselves because of British culture, and they look up to these Muslim men.
And then these Muslim men have them turning tricks.
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.
Thousands over the course of the past 15 years.
Jada was approached when she was a teenage girl by these guys.
She's aware of what's going on.
But no, we have to focus on the fact that someone might be racist because that's much more important than when someone is a rapist.
Let's talk to Jada about this.
Jada Franson, are you there?
I am indeed.
Now, I've had you on my radar for quite a while now because I'm originally British and I care about that country and I don't like it seeing Islamicized, but you're all over the mainstream American news now.
Yeah.
And that is because Donald Trump retweeted three of your tweets.
And instantly, the American media just went off on this whole racist, he's retweeting racist things.
Look at that.
This is Tucker Carlson.
This morning, the president started his day by promoting anti-Muslim fascist propaganda, retweeting videos posted by the leader of a British hate group called Britain's First Jada France Initiative.
Okay, so that goes on.
And I thought, I think what's going on here is Britain is incredibly politically correct.
I blame the media class, the BBC.
And when they say a hate group, it really just means a moderate patriot group like the Tea Party.
Absolutely.
I mean, a political party, no less.
But yeah, anyone who is remotely patriotic is all of the above.
I mean, I can't even name everything they've called us because I've lost track.
But it's incredible.
The frenzy that the world media has got into just from three retweets is quite incredible.
Well, I went to your site, BritainFirst.org, and the first thing that comes up is a big video saying, we're a multicultural group.
Here's all the different races involved.
Islam isn't a race.
We're just against Islamification.
Yes.
Absolutely.
I even talk to British people and they go, oh, no, mate.
Britain First, they don't really vet.
They don't vet their people well enough.
And there's some bad geezers in there.
I mean, I've never come across any bad geezers within Britain First.
To be honest, our people are just your average, everyday, working class, genuinely concerned people.
And this is where the political elite fall short because they're up in their ivory towers, all scoffing from the same trough.
They're self-serving career politicians.
They don't have the little people's interests at heart.
The likes of myself and Paul Golding.
And in fact, the majority of our leadership team, we're all from quite humble backgrounds.
We were raised, I was raised on a council estate in southeast London.
We've seen the direct ramifications of allowing mass immigration, Islamification.
I mean, my town is completely gone.
I'm from London, and I'm literally unable to walk through London without security because I get attacked.
And so this judgment that the establishment keeps throwing upon our people is actually really irresponsible and it's completely unfair.
And this week alone, I have seen the whole government, the opposition, everyone you can imagine stereotyping everyone that's involved in Britain first and calling them vile.
It's just disgraceful.
Well, I'm glad you brought up the elites because I was looking up, do you remember Andrew Neather?
He said he admitted, he was Tony Blair's speechwriter.
He admitted that he wanted to, him and Tony wanted to import tons of Muslim migrants to rub the right's nose in diversity.
And you talk about Ivory Towers.
You look up Andrew Neather and you see the ultimate climate-controlled wine walls and spiral cellars.
And here he is in his spiral cellar sampling wine.
I mean, it's like a parody.
How about this article?
He writes, hard times can't dampen our appetite for champagne.
And there's a photo of him literally playing with champagne.
So humble.
I mean, you just couldn't make it up.
This is what we are facing.
And do you know what?
I mean, on a more serious level, though, this is why the people elected Donald Trump.
Because they are sick.
And this is why Britain first is causing so many waves.
Because, you know, we share many views that Donald Trump has expressed throughout his presidential campaign and during his term in office.
You know, short time that it's been.
A lot of what he's doing, fantastic.
We're fully behind him.
And the reason we are growing, the reason Trump was elected is because everyone's sick of these people who are just living in a completely different world.
They will never understand what it's like to live next door to a family of Syrian refugees.
They won't know what it's like to have their daughters come home and say, I have been groomed by a gang of Muslims.
They're just, they're on a completely different planet.
And for them to be so blatant about this divide, this class division, as to, I mean, I'd be mortified if that kind of story was run and I was so pompous as to say, well, let's not allow the sorry state of Britain to inflict upon our indulgence in champagne.
It's just, they're completely out of touch.
And thankfully, the British public, just as the American public did have, now have an alternative, and that's Britain First.
Well, there's so much I want to talk about here.
I feel like we can only scratch the surface.
So there is a brutal class divide.
It seems like you're the victims, as working class Brits, you're the victims of a prank.
I mean, this guy is playing with champagne and rubbing your nose in it, and it's a game, and everything seems so allegorical.
Like the tweets, for example.
America is livid that he retweets you, but no one looks at the actual tweets.
And they say, oh, well, these tweets are fake.
Like there's a Muslim migrant who beats up a Dutch boy.
He's not a Muslim migrant.
He's a Dutch national.
And you go, we're splitting hairs here.
Do you mean that he has citizenship, but he's still named Muhammad?
Exactly.
I mean, look, nobody cares whether he's first, second, third generation.
Nobody cares about these minute details.
In fact, I mean, what would the left have done?
This is, I have wondered this over the last, since I've given maybe 150 interviews over the last few days.
I have wondered what on earth these people would have asked me if it weren't for that one video where that one young fella who maybe may have citizenship and may, you know, look, just like Angel Chowdhury's parents are both from Pakistan.
You know, the notorious Islamic hate preacher who's in prison now on terrorist charges?
Yes.
Guy with the two Pakistani parents who also has a British passport, which makes him a Brit, I guess.
Are we splitting hairs about him?
I mean, look, the fact is, the content is not fake.
But if it is, and if they're actors, then great.
Because that poor young boy who was pelted to death by this migrant of some extension was obviously just wiped himself off and said, where's my paycheck for that acting gig?
It's nonsense.
Well, what about the boy who is thrown off a building?
Was that a mannequin?
Or this guy smashing the Virgin Mary?
I mean, we have this myopic obsession with Nazis and finding racists, and you have a video of a boy being murdered right in your face, and you go, excuse me, I want to focus on the potential racism of Britain first.
I think it might just be that we can't handle the truth.
And we see the terror that is Islam.
We see the migrant gangs.
We see Manchester, and we just go, it's an anomaly.
Yeah, I mean, you know, the royal we.
Thankfully, that I'm not encompassed in that we.
But yeah, again, look, the fact is the media wrote this up as Donald Trump retweets vile, fascist, racist, far-right, every description under the sun, Jada Franson, who posted anti-Islamic videos.
Well, I don't know whether these videos have all been taken out of context.
Take it out of context.
Sound like a Muslim now, but look, I don't know how they've missed the fact that in the video, Muslims are throwing a poor young fella off a roof or that the Virgin Mary, the statue of the Virgin Mary has been smashed.
But somehow, the media are able to continue this professional victimhood of Muslims and say, this is so unfair.
I've read so many articles saying how it would have felt for American Muslims waking up to see Trump retweeting anti-Islamic tweets.
And I'm just like, what is going on in the world?
It is amazing.
And this ignorance also leaks to the police.
We just found out that the Manchester Arena terror attack could have been averted.
They had MI5 received intelligence in early 2017 that was highly relevant to the plans of the Manchester Arena attacker.
But they decided not to pursue it.
And we see this with the Muslim grooming gangs, where the police are so petrified of being racist, they don't stop child rape.
Yeah, I mean, again, this is one of the more serious byproducts of this name calling, because I'm so thick-skinned.
Like, you can call me absolutely anything.
I've heard it within the last five minutes.
And whether it's personal, whether it's to do with weight or looks, whatever.
Yeah, completely, I get it every day, it doesn't bother me.
So it all goes over your head.
In the same sentence, I've been accused of being a Zionist Nazi.
Like, I don't, it's just bizarre.
But on a more serious note, these are the implications and the ramifications of name-calling.
And we saw it with, for example, Rotherham, which wasn't actually the worst case in Britain.
So far that I know of, the worst case was Telford, where 2,300 girls were groomed, raped and tortured.
Rotherham was one of the big ones to, the main ones, to hit the headlines.
And it kind of exposed the ongoing, it's still happening now.
I'm facing trial for one of the cases, but obviously not for grooming, but for exposing it.
But Rotherham, 1,400 girls were groomed, raped, tortured.
There were children that were killed within this 16-year period.
And here's the problem with this name-calling, and here's the problem with the likes of Theresa May, Anne Barad, Sadiq Khan, all of those people who have been throwing these labels at me over the last few days.
The fact that they do it to me and I don't let it affect me makes me quite a rare case because the majority of people don't want to receive those labels.
They don't want, because that would impact on their jobs, on their lives, on their children, children's schooling.
And we saw in Rotherham over a 16-year period, the social services and the police force were so bullied and so scared of being accused of being racist for highlighting the fact that it was almost entirely Pakistani Muslim men that were carrying out the grooming and raping and torturing of non-Muslim British children because they didn't want to have to highlight that fact in case they were called racists.
They covered it up and 1,400 children that we know of, because let's face it, there's going to be more that didn't come forward, but 1,400 children have had their lives ruined.
So it is dangerous calling these names and I think certainly the British establishment have behaved irresponsibly and unprofessionally and I'm so pleased that Donald Trump has called them out at every opportunity.
God bless Trump.
Well, you literally have people going to jail for tweets.
You have those two Polish men who went to prison for throwing bacon on a mosque.
One of them was killed in prison.
They're constantly chasing Tommy Robinson down.
I had a pint with him when I was last in London.
Twelve police pulled him over and interrogated him on his way to meet me.
And you think, I'm totally confused by all this because, first of all, I was saying earlier how the brain can't handle all this.
I'm part of that.
I don't understand where you get 1,400 children from.
I mean, I think to get 1,400 children in my neighborhood, you'd have to go like a five square mile radius and get 100% of them.
Are they also Pakistani or are they white?
Who are these kids?
No, they were non-Muslim.
So they were predominantly white British children.
They were not targeting.
They were intentionally not targeting Muslim Pakistani children.
They weren't targeting their own.
This is no coincidence.
Like, this is in the scriptures.
It says, I've studied the Quran, I've studied the Bible.
It says in the Quranic scriptures that you're permitted, you're encouraged in the Islamic scriptures and instructed to wage jihad against the non-Muslims.
It's an obligation of every Allah-fearing Muslim.
And in that, you are encouraged, it's not just suggested, you are encouraged to take the non-Muslim women and children, the kufar, as sex slaves.
And so there's no coincidences here.
It's complete and utter ignorance on behalf of not just the British establishment, but any establishment that hasn't bothered to read this book to say that this is a misinterpretation.
It's completely illogical.
And for the argument that Muslims shouldn't or believe that they shouldn't follow these scriptures, again, is ridiculous.
Because I think from one Christian to another, I think the notion that you and I shouldn't follow the New Testament and, you know, Christ's Sermon on the Mount and all the instructions that were given to love thy neighbour and, you know, to say that, oh, he didn't mean that.
Like, he didn't actually mean to take that literally.
Like, don't love your neighbour.
I hate them because Christ was just messing around.
And to say that Allah instructing people to take the non-Muslims, to kill the kufar where you find them and take their women and children as sex slaves.
And to say that, no, no, no, you've got that wrong.
That is what they're doing, but it's not because of those scriptures is not just irresponsible.
It's completely ignorant.
But hey, I'm on trial for pointing this out.
And you're not exaggerating.
You're literally on trial.
You were abducted by the police and driven to Belfast to face criminals.
You could go to prison.
Yeah, it's almost a certainty that I would.
I mean, I'm facing two trials at the moment.
The first is for exposing a gang of Muslim rapists.
A young child in Ramsgate in Kent went into a pizza shop, a British child.
She was lost.
She asked for directions.
Instead of giving her directions, four Muslim migrant men took her to a flat upstairs and they gang raped her four times each.
They are all serving 14 year sentences for their heinous crime.
And you'd think that the fact that I expose these men would not be such a bad thing.
No, you need a medal.
Well, thank you.
As opposed to a medal, Kent Police have, in fact, given me a charge sheet which contains four separate charges of harassment, religiously aggravated harassment of the poor Muslim rapists who are actually currently serving 14 years.
And they're named on these charge sheets.
You couldn't make it up.
I'm looking at the officers when they've given me the charge sheet and they're reading out the names of the poor victims that Jada Franson, big scary Jada Franson, has upset and harassed and alarmed and caused distress to.
And they are the very same men that took a 16-year-old child and gang raped her four times each.
Like the establishment's gone mad.
The second trial is probably, I don't know, more ludicrous, who knows?
The second trial is probably more of a landmark case in that it pretty much constitutes blasphemy law here in the UK, which is a new thing, but Britain's now Sharia compliant.
So I'm looking at, with the two together, up to four years in prison.
And you're almost definitely going to get at least some time.
Yeah, I mean, they've basically said that, well, I mean, I have legal counsel, and I've entered a not guilty plea on all four charges relating to the grooming gang, the rapist gang.
And my first appearance for the other trial is on the 14th of December in Belfast.
But interestingly, for that one, the speech that I gave was on the 6th of August.
It was at an anti-terror rally, which was all-encompassing.
I think we discussed all different sects of terrorism.
There aren't a lot of Sikh or Hindu or Jewish terrorists here in Britain, or Christian for that matter.
So they didn't really get a shout-out, but we did mention the Islamic terrorism and, of course, the Republican terrorism, which is a pretty big issue over in Northern Ireland.
They both got to mention.
But the police, so they, after I gave the speech, I went home and some three or four months later, the police came.
They picked me up in London.
They drove me for six hours to Liverpool, put me on a ferry overnight for eight hours, guarded by four PSNI officers, took me to Belfast, had me in custody for 24 hours, interrogated me for four hours, and then charged me with what they described upon my arrest as giving an anti-Islamic speech.
So here we have it, folks.
If you criticise Islam in the UK, the Sharia-compliant UK, you're looking at jail time.
I'm stunned.
I mean, you've just proven that to be a rumored racist in Britain is worse than being a real child rapist.
Yes, yeah.
And it is, I mean, you've hit the nail on the head because they are rumours.
I mean, we try to, there's no point really putting these points across to the left because you're literally just wasting your time.
You cannot reason with idiocy.
And these people aren't well.
I mean, you just can't talk any sense into them.
But when anyone's going to grasp that Islam's not a race, I will be celebrating that day.
But, you know, being called a race, it's just a silencing technique.
And it worked in Rotherham when all the kids got groomed.
It worked in Telford, where the kids got groomed.
It worked in Rochdale, Oxford.
And it's unfortunately for the state, it's not working with me.
And so they're having to try and find another way to silence me.
And the best they've come up with so far are those five charges.
And we'll see.
We'll see how far they get.
Well, I see it as very relevant to American politics because you guys are the canary in the coal mine.
And we don't have a big Muslim population here, but it's Growing, and we don't have a big refugee problem here, but it's starting.
And if this is what happens when your Muslim population gets high, I'm not looking forward to it.
No, and you shouldn't be.
I mean, it's the problem is that what you have to look at here, the way I look at this, is if you want to establish who has control over your country, just consider who you can't criticise.
The fact that I can't criticise an ideology that I've studied, I'm not ignorant.
You know, people have their own preconceived ideas of who I am and what I'm about.
And if anybody's genuinely interested and wants to take the time, they could either research or actually ask me themselves.
But, you know, I've studied these scriptures.
I'm not ignorant to what they say.
Just like I've studied the Bible, because I think as a Christian, you have to know the scriptures.
You can't just align yourself to an ideology.
Well, you'd think not.
But it seems that that is what a huge amount of the population have done, is that they've, whether they're Muslim or not, because there's a huge, a vast majority, I believe, of Muslims in this country are completely ignorant to what that book says.
If they knew, I think if they are arguing that they're law-abiding, peaceful people, and if they actually knew what was being incited in that book, then I'd expect them to turn away from it.
But even the general population who don't align themselves as Muslims, but they say that we stand with Islam and we're with the Muslims and let's hug a Muslim, we had all of that nonsense when kids were getting scraped off the wall in Manchester, the big campaign, let's light a candle and hug a Muslim on the tube.
I don't know how that's going to help, but anyway, we gave it a good go.
But it's this creeping, it's not even creeping anymore, it's picked up a huge amount of pace, but this creeping Sharia and Islamification is extremely dangerous to us all.
And it's widespread.
So I sincerely hope that America doesn't go the same way as Britain.
But equally, I'd like to think that there's some hope for Britain in that America have got this great leader now and he's doing so much for you guys.
I know he's got to concentrate on you guys at home.
But just don't forget us because we are really, really in big trouble.
Well, we won't forget Britain and we won't forget you.
Let's follow this trial and keep checking in with you because the idea that someone can be arrested for making a speech is anti-Western.
It's not what we started here.
That's right.
This is the point that I made is that my grandfather came to this country from Holland.
In fact, Holland was occupied by the Nazis.
He came here and he fought the Nazis and he fought them along with the millions of other men and women that fought, bled and died for this country so that I have the right to express my opinion.
And it is just an opinion.
In fact, what I expressed on the day was my opinion with regards to Islam in Northern Ireland and the effect that I expect it would have based on my experience in London.
And fact, I quoted what it says in the Quran.
If I'm not free to do that, then I fear the sacrifice of millions has been in vain.
And that's not something that I'm prepared to take lightly.
Scary stuff.
Thank you very much for coming on the show and we'd love to have you back as soon as possible.
It's been an absolute pleasure, Gavin.
Thank you very much.
Thanks.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Oh, look at this.
Pink is using her kids as a virtue signaling tool saying she's raising them gender-free.
These weirdos, these liberals have no problem using their own children as some sort of political tool.
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